From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 00:10:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA4F1065672 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1342C8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDE050A88 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Z0cRH5Ven3h for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97BC650A7B; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090322001002.97BC650A7B@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-03-21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:10:06 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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(or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:07:27 -0000 Greetings, Is there a general how-to, or a set of coherent instructions, for shaping outbound traffic such that when I upload something over my asymmetric cable-modem pipe, doing so doesn't completely kill my Web browsing or any other attempts to use my Internet connection? (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) I have looked at various ALTQ + pf setups on the Web, but I have one caveat. I use FreeBSD 6.4 on my home gateway, and it is also using the default natd server, which relies on an ipfw divert rule. I don't know if this matters, or if I need to switch from natd to a pf-based NAT setup. Should I use *just* ipfw, or should I switch everything to pf (including NAT services) and go from there? Thanks much, Jubal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 02:20:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DC81065691 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510A8FC21 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1858492wfg.7 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ls9EDPjJ7hhfVXyxQDQDTp1K/i8+vj+4y6o6aF9Q1j4=; b=XJfIz7kHv7Cgoyn19O1knvd83O9A7Gnf+bUnp/Fwnty1R8ho5XKcVY8nqu9slFrE3r vs8gW4jWbq1qhZH1iDEt2rYQRL4VVEqTK6JSGZg/S/sRJUfBD/BvixTcWRq0wmtBWrbU x5K6Olw9z5Tb4j/4zTWHUWVYrzgoVwgFC8T50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=qMu38usacPW049cUWrqtNJSu81BbtHyknL7tJJ3N/R0FiLbbZpbuOy+RmKhe301G/6 NX1QhqCWDAVcbW6nWOFLPO5VxXkDMCNBV4qnyS3fX3n4tyx6grIB05qO5I/YgZMulEhU lqIK/aAbwo1tR4KrTkXXGCJtAG0KW1gXh/YUk= Received: by 10.114.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr3676649wab.188.1237688400276; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.5.70? (c-68-35-6-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.6.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n20sm14686075pof.3.2009.03.21.19.19.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:20:08 -0600 Message-Id: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:20:01 -0000 I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated ports tree today. # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg # make install # So what am i missing? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html tells me to install this port. I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it to install... Retrying the above install every time. Nothing works. What to do? Thanks.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 03:20:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C8C106567C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A2A8FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlEF0-0007Jj-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:20:50 -0700 Message-ID: <22643010.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:20:50 -0700 (PDT) From: freebsdlover To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200901301233.07305.jcurley@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: kewltings@hotmail.com References: <200901301233.07305.jcurley@mit.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1: iwi problem with intel 2200 pro wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:20:52 -0000 THE LAST LINE PUT IT IN FIRST LINE legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 THAT LINE #WiFI Config legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 if_iwi_load="YES" wlan_load="YES" firmware_load="YES" iwi_bss_load="YES" iwi_ibss_load="YES" iwi_monitor_load="YES" Curley-2 wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD-questions Group, > > I recently installed freeBSD 7.1 on an IBM Thinkpad T42 (types 2378). The > system will not connect to the internet wirelessly using the Intel 2200 > pro > wireless card. The problem is described in the following and some relevent > files (/var/log/messages, /var/run/dmesg.boot, /boot/loader.conf) are > pasted > below my signature. Thanks in advance for any help configuring this > feature. > > When I attempt to connect to the internet using the 'ifconfig iwi0 up > scan' > command the terminal gives no response and in /var/log/messages, 'iwi0: > could > not load main firmware iwi_bss' is given as an error. > > Ocassionally, after a system reboot the wireless card will connect to a > local > network. However attempting to change wireless networks causes the > wireless > to crash. Therefore, I do not think the problem is hardware based. > Additionally, I have checked the hardware using Windows XP device manager > (Windows XP is installed on a separated hard drive). The wireless works > fine > on Windows XP. > > I have looked through message boards without luck finding a solution for > my > system. Please let me know if this question ought to be sent elsewhere, I > am > a new user. Thanks again for taking the time to read this. > > Best Regards, > John > > from /var/log/messages: > (system response to the command "ifconfig iwi0 up scan") > Jan 30 01:39:02 JohnsThinkpad kernel: iwi0: timeout processing command > blocks > for iwi_bss firmware > Jan 30 01:39:02 JohnsThinkpad kernel: iwi0: could not load main firmware > iwi_bss > > ------------------------------- > > from /var/run/dmesg.boot: > Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 > root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > module_register: module uhub/umass already exists! > Module uhub/umass failed to register: 17 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz (1498.74-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x695 Stepping = 5 > > Features=0xa7e9f9bf > Features2=0x180 > real memory = 2146828288 (2047 MB) > avail memory = 2091171840 (1994 MB) > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or > length: 0 102C/0 [20070320] > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 > acpi_lid0: on acpi0 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: on hostb0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > vgapci0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem > 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xc0100000-0xc010ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 > uhci0: port 0x1800-0x181f irq > 11 > at device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci0: [ITHREAD] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: on usb0 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0x1820-0x183f irq > 11 > at device 29.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci1: [ITHREAD] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: on usb1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0x1840-0x185f irq > 11 > at device 29.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci2: [ITHREAD] > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: on usb2 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci0: mem > 0xc0000000-0xc00003ff > irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0 > ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ehci0: [ITHREAD] > usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 > usb3: on ehci0 > usb3: USB revision 2.0 > uhub3: on usb3 > uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > cbb0: mem 0xb0000000-0xb0000fff irq 11 at device 0.0 > on > pci2 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > cbb0: [ITHREAD] > cbb1: mem 0xb1000000-0xb1000fff irq 11 at device 0.1 > on > pci2 > cardbus1: on cbb1 > pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 > cbb1: [ITHREAD] > em0: port 0x8000-0x803f mem > 0xc0220000-0xc023ffff,0xc0200000-0xc020ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci2 > em0: [FILTER] > em0: Ethernet address: 00:16:41:17:29:2d > iwi0: mem 0xc0214000-0xc0214fff irq 11 at > device 2.0 on pci2 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:35:4c:84:63 > iwi0: [ITHREAD] > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1860-0x186f at device 31.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci0 > ata0: [ITHREAD] > ata1: on atapci0 > ata1: [ITHREAD] > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > pcm0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff,0x18c0-0x18ff mem > 0xc0000c00-0xc0000dff,0xc0000800-0xc00008ff irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 > pcm0: [ITHREAD] > pcm0: > pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: [ITHREAD] > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 > on > acpi0 > fdc0: [FILTER] > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 8250 or not responding > sio0: [FILTER] > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > battery0: on acpi0 > acpi_acad0: on acpi0 > acpi_ibm0: on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > est0: on cpu0 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > pmtimer0 on isa0 > orm0: at iomem > 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd1fff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xeffff > pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 > ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppbus0: on ppc0 > ppbus0: [ITHREAD] > ppi0: on ppbus0 > plip0: on ppbus0 > plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ppc0: [ITHREAD] > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1498736135 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA100 > acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > ------------------------------------------ > > from /boot/loader.conf: > > #IBM ACPI Config > acpi_ibm_load="YES" > > #sound driver > snd_ich_load="YES" > > > > #USB FlashDrive > umass_load="YES" > > -------------- > output of dmesg | grep iwi: > iwi0: mem 0xc0214000-0xc0214fff irq 11 at > device 2.0 on pci2 > iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:35:4c:84:63 > iwi0: [ITHREAD] > > ------------------ > output of sysctl dev.iwi.0.radio: > dev.iwi.0.radio: 1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 04:47:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1A2106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3A8FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE1D5C44 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date :received:received:received:x-virus-scanned; s=aegis; t= 1237697246; bh=5BMrR9ha79BdIUDku49Zr9LhHdyhMstXA+Fi0t7mu+k=; b=F K+DyzA3/WhwDiQ8CwL3Wd6fdyJe9AwjC1UW1ObNfutVQqNT5PxmRsHYVaK+5cs9r Jaq+4tNlKIxYf+2ePp/+CgqX3ZSYzFKH0DSRqMjl0gldJGRsWOBANoPRPZvV7D5s rC5Y0LB3byaOMc90Oyqc2Cc6guV7XfN+VLC14Zqa+U= X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id 9AGD3JxC5xMd for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shepherd.hamla.org (shepherd.hamla.org [74.72.46.40]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CF775C1E for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by shepherd.hamla.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id AA197172BE68; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:05 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090322044705.GL1314@shepherd.hamla.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Adding new domain in mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:47:07 -0000 On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Ruel Luchavez wrote: > we have here a mail server running in FreeBSD 6.2 which is holding out 2 > domain (e.g user@mydomain.com. who@mydomain2.com) and it running very good, > unfortunately I'm not the person who configure this mail stuff. > > heres my problem: > > we bought a new domain (e.g mydomain3.com) and Im planning to add the domain > to our mail server so that I could create a new email ad with the new domain > (e.g user3@mydomain3.com). how will I do that? Does this mail server send *and* receive mail? Which SMTP software? Which IMAP server? More details are required. In your follow up, please also define what you mean by 'add the domain to our mail server'. If you do not understand these requests for clarification, I urge you to contact the person who actually set up 'this mail stuff'. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 05:25:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A18106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17048FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2M5PZCK098905; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:25:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:25:35 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Modulok In-Reply-To: <20090322032105.0CB501065781@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090322153329.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090322032105.0CB501065781@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:25:39 -0000 On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:43:01 -0600 Modulok wrote: > I have been tasked with getting a DSL connection across about 10km of > no-man's-land to a rural location without internet access. Ideally, > all traffic inbetween the two directional antennas would be encrypted. Best encrypted, or at least use point-to-point adhoc in bridge mode rather than point-to-AP unencrypted, which will surely get abused. > (Nice, but not entirely required.) 3Mb/s would be great! Something > like: > > LAN<->BSDrouter<->modem<->Antenna<~~air~~>Antenna<->modem<->DSL > > I'm looking for general pointers of both hardware and software to > achieve this. I'd like to employ FreeBSD as much as is feasible. This > is my first WAN network project, so even newbie pointers and general > references would be much appreciated. (Hardware suggestions, books to > read, etc.) Reliability is of mild concern, simply because I don't > want to drive 10km at 3:00am when something breaks. > > Tips? References? Advice? I suggest downloading "Wireless Networking in the Developing World" in language of choice from http://wndw.net/download.html .. a great read, good coverage of theory and lots of practical advice. If you're on a budget, a couple of (say) Dlink or Cisco APs - something with decent external antenna connectors anyway - in bridge mode with two yagi or helical antennae with >= 12dBm gain should do 10km line of sight easily. With +15dBm antennae you should get (at least lower) 11g rates, and if you can afford 20+dBm dish grid antennae, so much the faster. Might be worth checking out /usr/ports/net/olsrd (http://www.olsr.org/) As others have said - avoid amplifiers, spend most on good antennae and cables, as short and fat as is practicable. You'll likely want short pigtails between the wireless card or bridge and the longer fat leads. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 05:41:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05115106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C0C8FC25 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1255655tia.3 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:41:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H3AEFyhCVSFClXr8tNPbHlHl6AHrXh17tMm2Re5i0RY=; b=fXaJNx7JX2zwipO6r/C+LVZtgBijroVYCjE0Yv5l8ISTLoSoxgc6wiUCQCgBiqEnwc 0N7JAIySBTS0PrCl/5YrZ8okDx/qdTELX37mkctvQyVwP/osYnmOjVfSsW09EiPa1DQp dLoYvfhbf2PMtxqSVxmAx5bTpuO4d0WVJD67s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IkwmfZZ1Dn6UZeXly3z0c+rJM3D4Rt3mhX+MSwOCsd2HG434UR7k+Sjzgom1YyhDtj 1uv8dUQLgdT7J9E/ZI79i7PoepP848rrKFtX0AFINfEPLrApHoKEJLi96eygxI5zyeRT PZTbdBQe82JivWxZjL1bkQ4B+Vs5EEUrs27Z8= Received: by 10.110.10.16 with SMTP id 16mr7248630tij.10.1237700492224; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.225.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u12sm3978847tia.18.2009.03.21.22.41.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C5CFE7.1040306@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:13:03 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49BEF6DB.6090904@gmail.com> <68295264@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <49C3F6BA.2040202@gmail.com> <68283972@ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <68283972@ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Need help for acroread8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:41:34 -0000 Hello Boris, I can't really explain how, but I have got acroread8 up and running on my system. All I did was deinstall and reinstall pango and linux-pango. I then created the following 2 symlinks : /compat/linux/etc/pango/pango.modules -> /compat/linux/etc/pango/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules -> /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules-32 Then I ran /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules as root, which populated pango.modules. Once that happened, to my surprise, acroread fired up and ran seamlessly. It still gives the warning about the missing libgnomebreakpad.so, like all other linux inherited applications do, but that appears to be harmless. Thanks for all the help. Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com Boris Samorodov wrote: > Manish Jain writes: > >> Hello Boris, >> >> I followed your leads and I am now left with the following : > > Please, show what exactly you have done. And give output of > two commands from those URLs. And try to not top-post. Otherwise > you yourself won't understand the email. > >> >> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": >> libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or >> directory >> >> >> >> (acroread:41717): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or >> dynamically loaded modules >> >> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means >> >> there was an error in the creation of: >> >> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' >> >> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. >> >> >> >> (acroread:41717): Pango-CRITICAL **: >> _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed >> >> >> >> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): >> assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) >> >> aborting... >> >> >> >> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread >> >> 'locate libgnomebreakpad' gives : >> /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.la >> /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.so >> >> So, these would be the FreeBSD versions of the library and not the >> linux ones, which would be the ones acroread would be looking for. >> However this does not seem to a fatal error. linux-ymessenger also >> reports the same error but loads and runs successfully. >> >> Effectively, I am left with the pango error, which is fatal indeed and >> I have no idea how to get around. I would give up on acroread and try >> something else but for 2 reasons : >> >> 1) acroread is more sophisticated than anything else available >> 2) this has partly become an ego issue at my end. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks in advance >> Manish Jain >> invalid.pointer@gmail.com >> >> >> Boris Samorodov wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:33:23 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: >>> >>>> Anyway, if anyone has any clue how to get me out of this acroread >>>> mess, I would be really grateful. >>> Those URLs may be a good start for you: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194334.html >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194354.html >>> >>> >>> WBR > > WBR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 06:00:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6F710656BC for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8508FC28 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.174.5]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:00:02 -0700 Message-ID: <49C5D3E6.6070807@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:00:06 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> In-Reply-To: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2009 06:00:02.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[70E5B520:01C9AAB3] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:00:15 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated > ports tree today. > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > # make install > # > > > > So what am i missing? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html > tells me to install this port. > > > I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it to > install... Retrying the above install every time. Nothing works. > > What to do? > > > Thanks.... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > it will take many many hours to compile. If you read more in handbook it also says you can install the package version which should only take 30 minutes. pkg_add -r xorg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 06:04:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5222106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6282C8FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1260577bwz.43 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:04:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2LlUHaWeTm5+J9M+yRpB+T6ijMcsFy1fP/cgrUuvBKM=; b=HP8TMd5hy+uuzBR31Al8ZbqyxzXw+M3y6H4QumDErKdxko9ESpveW0n1+wYTPyEa9h L9X09BhlR9bmYP+gjWJKLtsr+fWTjBV0596rJQqhisHhn9VP8r84cQpB1l04HwjydnrJ 77QxKu+SzRPbxfFyCf4DdWwWWPiGSrO3N64aI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gY5dyUCb+y9NELN/9ukG6GEdUE/3XMdPApyfrO5r6ekJ3PphqFXLg/ynRXkomWZiHw oGvwCDA5DqzCUqI7KWn4DGKVxLfs0ibqZT9QVjSCzwXF9TWqBxvVIPsVd61Ol47pHMZ5 yfxHTWQku0JsElnBnqP4Z8cJGCfExUX7D3yzo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr4786826faq.76.1237701854097; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:04:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903212304j2e7fea6dve110380de02c97c4@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:04:16 -0000 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated > ports tree today. > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > # make install > # > > > > So what am i missing? > If xorg is already installed, you won't see any output. This is "expected" behavior, as far as I can tell. What happens on 'make deinstall; make fetch-recursive; make install' ? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html > tells me to install this port. > > > I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it to > install... =A0Retrying the above install every time. =A0Nothing works. > > What to do? > > I have seen this behavior before, and resorted to removing all packages and rebuilding. (Probably not the solution you are after.) --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 06:58:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6CC106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp234-119.static.internode.on.net [203.122.234.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FF98FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LlHd5-000Lq2-Ii; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:28:02 +1030 Message-ID: <49C5E15D.4090406@awdcomp.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:27:33 +1030 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> In-Reply-To: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "gateway.abdulla", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jubal, Jubal Kessler wrote: > Greetings, > > Is there a general how-to, or a set of coherent instructions, for > shaping outbound traffic such that when I upload something over my > asymmetric cable-modem pipe, doing so doesn't completely kill my Web > browsing or any other attempts to use my Internet connection? > > (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is > capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am > forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the > downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) > > I have looked at various ALTQ + pf setups on the Web, but I have one > caveat. I use FreeBSD 6.4 on my home gateway, and it is also using the > default natd server, which relies on an ipfw divert rule. I don't know > if this matters, or if I need to switch from natd to a pf-based NAT setup. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 1.3 PLING_QUERY Subject has exclamation mark and question mark X-Spam-Score: 0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:58:06 -0000 Hi Jubal, Jubal Kessler wrote: > Greetings, > > Is there a general how-to, or a set of coherent instructions, for > shaping outbound traffic such that when I upload something over my > asymmetric cable-modem pipe, doing so doesn't completely kill my Web > browsing or any other attempts to use my Internet connection? > > (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is > capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am > forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the > downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) > > I have looked at various ALTQ + pf setups on the Web, but I have one > caveat. I use FreeBSD 6.4 on my home gateway, and it is also using the > default natd server, which relies on an ipfw divert rule. I don't know > if this matters, or if I need to switch from natd to a pf-based NAT setup. Technically you could run both, for a while years back I was using pppd's nat, ipfw for the firewall and dummynet (for kids downloads and stuff or when they reached their monthly quota), and pf for altq on outbound. All working perfectly. > > Should I use *just* ipfw, or should I switch everything to pf (including > NAT services) and go from there? > > Thanks much, > > Jubal > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Awdcomp computing services. Mobile: 0433 263 470 Web: www.awdcomp.net Email: awd@awdcomp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 07:54:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95258106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CA08FC17 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2M7sCZG007476; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:54:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2M7sAp1007473; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:54:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:54:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20090322153329.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20090322032105.0CB501065781@hub.freebsd.org> <20090322153329.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:54:23 -0000 > Best encrypted, or at least use point-to-point adhoc in bridge mode > rather than point-to-AP unencrypted, which will surely get abused. quite available in Poland where people have unencrypted AP's at home. good antenna and you get free (and anonymous ;) access to the net. > easily. With +15dBm antennae you should get (at least lower) 11g rates, > and if you can afford 20+dBm dish grid antennae, so much the faster. > grid antennas for 2.4Ghz are not expensive. give best available there are about 24dB, to have LARGE margin for noise. > As others have said - avoid amplifiers, spend most on good antennae and amplifiers make sense ONLY when there are something on the line that damps the signal (like few trees) and you can't avoid that. but still it's not good, snow would fall on trees and then nothing will help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 09:15:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C2C106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33DD8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.17.81] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LlJmD-000FUW-Rc; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:15:30 +0300 To: Tim Judd References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:15:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> (Tim Judd's message of "Sat\, 21 Mar 2009 20\:20\:08 -0600") Message-ID: <46818677@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:15:33 -0000 Tim Judd writes: > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated > ports tree today. > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > # make install > # Seems that you miss a "make clean" stage. > So what am i missing? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html > tells me to install this port. > > > I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* That's too bad if you don't have a backup, since you have lost all information about installed ports. > and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it to > install... Retrying the above install every time. Nothing works. > > What to do? > > > Thanks.... WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 09:30:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D6F106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF7A8FC1A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49C0BA210015CF14 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:30:37 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkZXADKixUlV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBT4EwigGHSoEZAQEBAR4XC7xjgjqBRAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,402,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="497995066" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2009 10:30:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2M9UZ1V077273 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:30:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:30:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090314) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> In-Reply-To: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:39 -0000 Jubal Kessler wrote: > Greetings, > > Is there a general how-to, or a set of coherent instructions, for > shaping outbound traffic such that when I upload something over my > asymmetric cable-modem pipe, doing so doesn't completely kill my Web > browsing or any other attempts to use my Internet connection? Daniel Hartmeier's tutorial is the base on which I build my own knowledge: http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri.html I have helped my friends build FreeBSD based routers for a few years now. I've put together a documentation, mainly to help myself being consistent, but your free to look at my examples there and the reasoning behind it. It's in the "Firewall setup" guide but it's rather long since I explain in detail every part of the firewall rule set: http://homerouters.info/wiki/Main_Page Be aware that I'm not a very good teacher... ;-) > (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is > capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am > forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the > downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) This is exactly the reason why I built my own router several years ago. > I have looked at various ALTQ + pf setups on the Web, but I have one > caveat. I use FreeBSD 6.4 on my home gateway, and it is also using the > default natd server, which relies on an ipfw divert rule. I don't know > if this matters, or if I need to switch from natd to a pf-based NAT setup. > > Should I use *just* ipfw, or should I switch everything to pf (including > NAT services) and go from there? I have no experience running pf and ipfw at the same time. NAT is handled perfectly by pf and keeping everything in the same config makes everything much easier. Naturally I recommend you have a look at the example in my tutorial and the pf man page of course. It's extremely flexible. > Thanks much, > > Jubal /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 09:55:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAAC106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E1C8FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.17.81] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LlKOz-000Fz5-8q; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:55:33 +0300 To: Manish Jain References: <49BEF6DB.6090904@gmail.com> <68295264@serv3.int.kfs.ru> <49C3F6BA.2040202@gmail.com> <68283972@ipt.ru> <49C5CFE7.1040306@gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:55:09 +0300 In-Reply-To: <49C5CFE7.1040306@gmail.com> (Manish Jain's message of "Sun\, 22 Mar 2009 11\:13\:03 +0530") Message-ID: <80736290@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help for acroread8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:55:35 -0000 Hi, Manish Jain writes: > Hello Boris, You are top-posting again. :-( > I can't really explain how, but I have got acroread8 up and running on > my system. All I did was deinstall and reinstall pango and > linux-pango. I then created the following 2 symlinks : > > /compat/linux/etc/pango/pango.modules -> > /compat/linux/etc/pango/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules > > /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules -> > /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules-32 > > Then I ran /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules as root, which > populated pango.modules. Neither of those files should present at the system if you install linux programs via ports/packages (if they do, please, reproduce it and file a PR): . /compat/linux/etc/pango/pango.modules; . /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules; . /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules. All those files are autocreated by the port/package: . /compat/linux/usr/bin/pango-querymodules-32; . /compat/linux/etc/pango/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules. > Once that happened, to my surprise, acroread > fired up and ran seamlessly. The port system do it for you automatically. Hence, you should find out how did you manage to get there earlier to not get there in the future. > It still gives the warning about the > missing libgnomebreakpad.so, like all other linux inherited > applications do, but that appears to be harmless. > > Thanks for all the help. > > Regards > Manish Jain > invalid.pointer@gmail.com > > > > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Manish Jain writes: >> >>> Hello Boris, >>> >>> I followed your leads and I am now left with the following : >> >> Please, show what exactly you have done. And give output of >> two commands from those URLs. And try to not top-post. Otherwise >> you yourself won't understand the email. >> >>> >> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": >>> libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or >>> directory >>> >> >>> >> (acroread:41717): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or >>> dynamically loaded modules >>> >> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means >>> >> there was an error in the creation of: >>> >> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' >>> >> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. >>> >> >>> >> (acroread:41717): Pango-CRITICAL **: >>> _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed >>> >> >>> >> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): >>> assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) >>> >> aborting... >>> >> >>> >> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread >>> >>> 'locate libgnomebreakpad' gives : >>> /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.la >>> /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.so >>> >>> So, these would be the FreeBSD versions of the library and not the >>> linux ones, which would be the ones acroread would be looking for. >>> However this does not seem to a fatal error. linux-ymessenger also >>> reports the same error but loads and runs successfully. >>> >>> Effectively, I am left with the pango error, which is fatal indeed and >>> I have no idea how to get around. I would give up on acroread and try >>> something else but for 2 reasons : >>> >>> 1) acroread is more sophisticated than anything else available >>> 2) this has partly become an ego issue at my end. >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> Manish Jain >>> invalid.pointer@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> Boris Samorodov wrote: >>>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:33:23 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyway, if anyone has any clue how to get me out of this acroread >>>>> mess, I would be really grateful. >>>> Those URLs may be a good start for you: >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194334.html >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194354.html >>>> >>>> >>>> WBR >> >> WBR WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 08:25:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77E1106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoreno3@yahoo.com) Received: from web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.15.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3E5A8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoreno3@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 22261 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2009 07:58:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237708738; bh=QbnAaxo2o8qW7GhNhnE2mgy0kX0BqQR8R1GVdaulDbE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y6iqDhO4X3EcqDYW4vaqAJPG8qolLUYm2grzLOB0hLEPd4CWHm85tAXGX4UXQsq1fWfl/Rqyq/ziG4ObcLDsDzQEFk6cKXnBrCm0o7CB0RRjTrX3ohpFEXRxVxPxfBO3ytZ0o/kPw4lYXjGPpn0yKjOCDXTQ/sTu9CLnNkttIq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ntuw/ysQm/uih8f71cP+bWl20os+m27bPgxvKKNBmKWiiBC6D7g1JfJnh5TfZYJWq+Bwslt58MWmyr8d84feaT+DE7CYVYSXHdVoLhZevAaLOh/dM9GZOSIoSPY4uHUeXbtSxpdqlyUQpK1EYGllb5khatRZ6e/Str/5EUIFA3Y=; Message-ID: <441987.21861.qm@web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ld_o95gVM1mG0KPZTWrCa4n7l9pVd0equLEo2XEFAp0MnChfBVcxcDikC98Dj66HuFdPJJrlJz3uS.Ag4CiLhKyJO_b_3GoByTw6_9Qq8VgbTlxjd80O7mwaztfW9mJt3uzj9GBybk.c.4c.B578C8vLZ6Ny6IcMywuFPLPMR0oWhWv9x9VKZtcbfhhrQA5T1QFdT3uh7nhq46xvRFpy_ugDs3qvvBodJsdzF0WtiNsb4Hh0y5pZ.CfCkka6AsBkW9m3iFeYLhs0Tkg3oihuWA-- Received: from [201.221.158.199] by web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:58:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "William E. Moreno A." To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:21:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: startx on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:25:40 -0000 when startx on FreeBSD 7.1... 1- Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display "0.0" 2- [drm] failed to load kernel module "via" =A0=A0 (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed. =A0=A0 (EE) CHROME(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.=A0 Disabling DRI. =A0 I need some guiance +++ =A0 William Moreno P.D.: El presente correo no contiene tildes para evitarle al receptor inconvenientes en su lectura.=0A=0A=0A =A1S=E9 el Bello 51 de People e= n Espa=F1ol! =A1Es tu oportunidad de Brillar! Sube tus fotos ya. http://www= .51bello.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 12:30:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB81B1065670 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E878FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2MCU23U007952; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2MCU1pS007949; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:30:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "William E. Moreno A." In-Reply-To: <441987.21861.qm@web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <441987.21861.qm@web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1626729238-1766535000-1237725002=:7926" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:30:13 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1626729238-1766535000-1237725002=:7926 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > when startx on FreeBSD 7.1... > > 1- Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display "0.0" > 2- [drm] failed to load kernel module "via" >    (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed. >    (EE) CHROME(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI. you miss kernel module so X can't load this. if you don't need drm just ignore. > ?? I need some guiance +++ > ?? William Moreno > > P.D.: El presente correo no contiene tildes para evitarle al receptor > inconvenientes en su lectura. > > > ?Sé el Bello 51 de People en Espa?ol! ?Es tu oportunidad de Brillar! Sube tus fotos ya. http://www.51bello.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --1626729238-1766535000-1237725002=:7926-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 13:46:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B3C106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltsampros@upnet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2728FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltsampros@upnet.gr) Received: from bifteki.lan (ppp-94-66-49-109.home.otenet.gr [94.66.49.109]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2MDE9ox026324; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:14:09 +0200 Received: from bifteki.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bifteki.lan (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2MDE92Z012957; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:14:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ltsampros@bifteki.lan) Received: (from ltsampros@localhost) by bifteki.lan (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id n2MDE9lx012956; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:14:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ltsampros) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:14:09 +0200 From: Leonidas Tsampros To: Ghirai Message-ID: <20090322131409.GA12747@bifteki.lan> References: <20090321015316.87f9531b.ghirai@ghirai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090321015316.87f9531b.ghirai@ghirai.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speed in extracting rar files - unrar vs. 7z X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:46:16 -0000 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 01:53:16AM +0200, Ghirai wrote: > Hey, > > Does anyone know a faster way of extracting big rar files, or why is > it so slow? > > I did a quick test with time (extracting the same ~800MiB file, > consisting of split archives): > > unrar: > > real 4m29.637s > user 0m4.969s > sys 0m3.131s > > 7z: > > real 3m50.020s > user 0m4.784s > sys 0m1.821s > > In your place I'd try the archivers/rar port which is the commercial implementation from rarlab.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 14:53:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228031065675 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762E68FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1344633bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BurH5dI/tXAcOJVzYyZLAOlPrBs3hlW0JNBxgNJ0/xg=; b=VuFOMXJgzQA46e3iF9yp86z6lhKGvJj+RpF28QC5PkIjdp2l8FAzAZ9MbHd59p8IAK EuECN+oX7L97iXvtsSXKazKdwlSwyVwDx2O7qq7f5vi6ueHbGlmc2SWX9ZvShiftX5kG heZdhuQDN32l8k7LCMJ9od5em3HArbwQzCftg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CQ4vEQwcU2KqGaI1r3NilexgxLkJY3SoFe+uawPJIbCdXEFG/OlIpbk86wNLEcAUWU Ww8vqhiI2iuU7wFrUbYpSLgcr+WwvrWwSDu/hYzH7Y34ceISidMUZc2tu+ZgNxbG7aHq ipspAt5+ZkPIhUZW8PmEY/fYcnHrSwH566Lgw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.144 with SMTP id y16mr5086320far.93.1237733580234; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:53:00 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:53:03 -0000 I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG kernel.I have csup-ped today. However, my compilation fails, viz: cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since I wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should not be failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this gets fixed? :) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:23:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189BF1065673 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4928FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2MFNudt010673; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:23:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1237735437; bh=5Jw15EWv9rpOFVfk0jZMJ32/iEQKZCEtkoF2SxJB1nk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=HKP+fMGLPYvqG h40FFxr0zNvFxwMV2UhiJ6a3sQIltbEDeL017KkZJXbsjmatKHHINewFiswEt8U/wUw QAw/6ESoJwTzvSKz7FBx6tpA5M8vVjrQe4DIwX8DfI7n4k/wP/3nb0opMCm5cmnh+5O hl07S78Qp8l5cMq06qhShFfU= From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:23:56 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: "\"Remorque\"" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:23:58 -0000 On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel > config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG > kernel.I have csup-ped today. > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > -Wno-pointer-sign > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since I > wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should not be > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this gets > fixed? :) You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on my system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. Kent -- kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:39:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FED106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.MT.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F28E8FC17 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 9E91FA142C; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:39:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: Warren Block In-reply-to: (message from Warren Block on Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:44:22 -0600 (MDT)) References: <20090313154130.3D96EA26DB@maxine.cjones.org> <49BA87D5.3080000@gmail.com> <20090313204825.E64BCA2718@maxine.cjones.org> <49BACEF0.8070905@gmail.com> <20090313223308.3B98CA2723@maxine.cjones.org> <49BAE3C0.9090000@gmail.com> <20090314043421.12C61A24F7@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB4762.7020405@a1poweruser.com> <20090314064658.1F188A25F3@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB57EF.2060303@a1poweruser.com> <20090314214353.54DFEA2786@maxine.cjones.org> <20090315160652.AB8A0A27F4@maxine.cjones.org> <20090320071537.31022A1F0B@maxine.cjones.org> Message-Id: <20090322153907.9E91FA142C@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0000 > xfce-4.6 is running here on a couple of machines, with none of those > problems. Those actually sound more like xorg problems. I don't think it's XORG for a couple of reasons: * when I first updated xfce, it didn't update xorg, and it was all working fine under xfce4 4.4 * problems don't seem to exist under fluxbox or twm > > and a couple minor ones: > > > > * XFCE menu doesn't work > > Which one? In what way? I miss the menu editor... The main menu off of the panel, which has a default icon of the rodent over a blue X. By doesn't work, I mean when you click on it nothing happens. > portdowngrade and some work can probably do it. If your problems are > really xorg related, changing window manager won't help. Looked into portdowngrade, and I may look into that further at some point. At this point, fluxbox seems to be pretty cool, and seems to be working. Keith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9FD10656C5 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.MT.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488D28FC15 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id C8041A18B0; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:40:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: Neal Hogan In-reply-to: (message from Neal Hogan on Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:38:51 -0500) References: <20090313154130.3D96EA26DB@maxine.cjones.org> <20090314043421.12C61A24F7@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB4762.7020405@a1poweruser.com> <20090314064658.1F188A25F3@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB57EF.2060303@a1poweruser.com> <20090314214353.54DFEA2786@maxine.cjones.org> <20090315160652.AB8A0A27F4@maxine.cjones.org> <20090320071537.31022A1F0B@maxine.cjones.org> Message-Id: <20090322154032.C8041A18B0@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:40:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:40:34 -0000 > Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For > example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (# firefox). > Once you get the hang of its keybindings, which are vi-like, it's fun and > easy. It's also compatible with aterm, which will give you transparent > terminals (if that's something that interests you). > > Also, I highly recommend that you check out http://xwinman.org. I found it > to be fun and informative to peruse the list of wm's there. Thanks for the link. http://xwinman.org is pretty cool. I'm currently playing with fluxbox, and that seems to be working pretty well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:43:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5D310656CB for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0BF8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1354202bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:43:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=idmmaouIeeNETG1wJJQSb2KN1ZF5zZfXHui7fMI0iOI=; b=SKFFwoeqwu+NVPAkiQ5rsNRzEP2jazjkgVKQxvQIhnT2EaY4vk3lJUlvPSfpF+J6gF TEH2CJTPYbxevu/9MJyttnhQGS0m45TJRM6YeohRTUWEIqFGVLrZ2aZRcPcvp+KuEGzE 6AH7a1UvC/UmZmO4L8lToCEhbZ9BdsvtDU5WM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JT2FI1ZNY6uW8wab1fgyfU/P7tSrOv//ecMujNBg5xlrLqcsh8Xwb7Nz6nzafj9tf7 toaHfJrw8TE3wdSMBHLxxNGs8linXntYIt4U8axI9GW+Kb7i7v0Xvnf4cDpqeVdaTDsr Zs2CelkmxtSJbU1cbOqaGS13O4woAsL9Yovcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.196 with SMTP id g4mr5151273fap.36.1237736633255; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:43:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:43:53 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Kent Stewart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:43:57 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel > > config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG > > kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall > > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > > -Wno-pointer-sign > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > -include > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > inline-unit-growth=100 > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since I > > wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should not > be > > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this gets > > fixed? :) > > You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on my > system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > > Kent Hi Kent, Thank you for replying. The fact is that: 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using FreeBSD 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, csup (src, ports) and buildworld. I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after the system updates. Your guess is wrong:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:48:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE937106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8608FC20 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1381690fxm.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=evhKupkRFDpbL/k6ZDI0y07YAH56tqgRgNltz8Iy24c=; b=hllfU6JMZJL5AbMu3MOSMKjcrUUltgw4mci79n1xQKh4uf1+k2U//JdfAFN8IP13k8 1S+9XQOe1qUT1/y0caT6I9yLzH9OErj/cs6Y1G7U3zJvQSc/rY0Cv6TtZaEPo6JhCcpd d21aVvvCdbjUoXsQ99Uyh4FtK38hYNBO1K/i0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Perb5FIZ3FtzpkGJ4pLKGo84FGtIrb/06I0yoZzX3ytFmfR5ZzlSkFP9wRON6JXEQ3 Y6TapGFJWMfmbTWMeSbZ7Ak65Db2BqsEPJpaf8pcYMB/W/417pBp2EsBTGzXHKrW+hN/ L8McYtTLROeaaS2h//sSiQiqzOuEFIYbjBksc= Received: by 10.103.182.3 with SMTP id j3mr2621365mup.113.1237736920437; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm8372484muf.48.2009.03.22.08.48.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:46:40 +0200 To: \"Remorque\" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:48:42 -0000 Still, the fact that there are some optimisation flags remain. That would be the first thing I would take into consideration in this matter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:52:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CAE106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4878FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1355759bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dz6lnohM8Q2w+a+XKcqbpV0EloJtww/6ETuaPsm9TAo=; b=Jiva/n5X9i2lpMgCqtRv8YIvQs4tyz5Z1Z2TLJ7x++mehm3+f1+F04836Dy68s12ME PLIBV/EvfEwDwGixG2GQT7X0WYet9uUeGk5A+5nghpTbqSWyDQzD7BXtoDIthjJaJsuu LromYsOYHa1zINLbpblq8nl58dah6u8Q+vQkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Kkrx1RT0UJRzoBmMId56kZLbyF/OK4eeQHD5SGPZLzpuS6x4x2EBGOBCWdCDSDCGG8 5XKSm9eJ5DkPg1aCqmiphmvZY1HF0GMRg4eAPD9m5Fitn9pkgqAJA63cIR9OhzZ8HGAZ Rox/7GqwcFFOSsFx4+/7bn14YExoQ89gHM3mA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.66 with SMTP id b2mr5175584fas.3.1237737146317; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:52:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:52:26 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903220852w665e5e02m297e7e729e41a8d6@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:52:29 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin < claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com> wrote: > Still, the fact that there are some optimisation flags remain. That would > be the first thing I would take into consideration in this matter. > Fine. Where do you suppose they are? I am saying this is a pristine system. There is absolutely nothing foreign that I have added so far. I've not installed a single thing besides the OS.There can't be anything like optimization anywhere so far, unless it is hidden inside "make". %uname -a FreeBSD fs.ilink.co.ke 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 08:58:24 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/s ys/GENERIC amd64 % % %env USER=wash LOGNAME=wash HOME=/home/wash MAIL=/var/mail/wash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/wash/bin TERM=linux FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES BLOCKSIZE=K SHELL=/bin/csh SSH_CLIENT=192.168.1.100 3033 22 SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.1.100 3033 192.168.1.201 22 SSH_TTY=/dev/ttyp1 HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD VENDOR=unknown OSTYPE=FreeBSD MACHTYPE=unknown SHLVL=1 PWD=/home/wash GROUP=wheel HOST=fs.ilink.co.ke REMOTEHOST=192.168.1.100 EDITOR=vi PAGER=more %ls -al total 22 drwxr-xr-x 3 wash wheel 512 Mar 22 14:07 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Mar 19 01:49 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 wash wheel 758 Mar 19 01:49 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 wash wheel 258 Mar 19 01:49 .login -rw-r--r-- 1 wash wheel 167 Mar 19 01:49 .login_conf -rw------- 1 wash wheel 379 Mar 19 01:49 .mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 wash wheel 339 Mar 19 01:49 .mailrc -rw-r--r-- 1 wash wheel 773 Mar 19 01:49 .profile -rw------- 1 wash wheel 284 Mar 19 01:49 .rhosts -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:57:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B2E106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F08E8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14ABEB533F; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B046A4509B; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:27 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o9YTNdf1jqSn; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl38-146.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.165.146]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C48E4503F; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2MFvR7Z014097; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2MFvQjS014096; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "\"Remorque\"" References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:57:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> (Remorque's message of "Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:53:00 +0300") Message-ID: <87ljqxlfdl.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:57:30 -0000 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:53:00 +0300, "\"Remorque\"" wrote: > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel > config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG > kernel.I have csup-ped today. > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > *** Error code 1 This snippet does not include *any* compiler warning or error line. Are you building with a high -j option? If yes, can you try removing the already built stuff from `/usr/obj/*' and rebuilding without any -jXXX option in the buildworld/buildkernel command-line? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 15:59:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24A0106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700618FC1B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2MFxpmx020923; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:59:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:59:51 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090322233924.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090322032105.0CB501065781@hub.freebsd.org> <20090322153329.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:59:55 -0000 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Best encrypted, or at least use point-to-point adhoc in bridge mode > > rather than point-to-AP unencrypted, which will surely get abused. > > quite available in Poland where people have unencrypted AP's at home. > good antenna and you get free (and anonymous ;) access to the net. My point exactly :) > > easily. With +15dBm antennae you should get (at least lower) 11g rates, > > and if you can afford 20+dBm dish grid antennae, so much the faster. > > grid antennas for 2.4Ghz are not expensive. give best available there are > about 24dB, to have LARGE margin for noise. It's a few years since I priced some of those, they're likely much cheaper now. Then something like AU$200 + coax + fittings per end. > > As others have said - avoid amplifiers, spend most on good antennae and > > amplifiers make sense ONLY when there are something on the line that damps > the signal (like few trees) and you can't avoid that. but still it's not > good, snow would fall on trees and then nothing will help. There's good discussion of that and fresnel zones etc in that WNDW book. BTW, I've since explored a bit and found what looks like a very useful companion (free, PDF) book "How to Accelerate Your Internet" that I've yet to read beyond the table of contents getting my attention, and a quick browse to scope the Traffic Shaping section. http://bwmo.net/ Very timely for me anyway; I have to tackle some Debian boxes in coming weeks, doing a crash course in iptables re both firewall and shaping. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:02:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BD11065670 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnordwick@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1238FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnordwick@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so1429092rvb.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=yWJ3s/ZkylMnI5K64h57UzZjX8SqtBIEnFxUpiCj+fA=; b=KMULbNfGXNXVybWjaEluRyYy6yE9QNvs1IYtu4/2Ft8hNyVytMqCTTJjQY+NXJLR7N po/5SC1KlaaU/rUYrXGa0po5wUs7XJ+9SiOK/xmtfNTLJ+vnQ/k7+Y8ht+b8WeAljcc0 0BA6d0MAWhtH9Wn8tOeebzuuxSdL7dM3ENpaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=GKP6lUh04nv4VRZObZNF5j4HoxX3k0KBvMXpl7sG55n3ac1imD7f9pjI4jRCJ2osHQ 0L4Ly2ZY+b1fzLsLyJvIXq21AIhThbBmu2ZgGNHOvn6QIm2Li7hMf6yOOvQ+GO9wEFkP c2fUM1ZX/vZwBRQ0pYoomDpoQz7dtN2EQ6TI4= Received: by 10.141.201.1 with SMTP id d1mr1778076rvq.230.1237736291517; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([76.91.169.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm8011610rvb.19.2009.03.22.08.38.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jason Nordwick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:38:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Sysinstall cannot find snapshot releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:02:15 -0000 I'm a previous FreeBSD user that used to track current and returning after a few years. If my memory is correct, the definition of -stable, -release, and -current seems to have changed? (but my memory sucks so excuse me if I'm wrong). Can you no longer track -release, but instead -stable is actually more advanced at times (more bug fixes and backports)? So I guess I would like to use -current or -stable and occasionally cvsup the tree. I tried downloading the 200902 current and stable snapshots, and sysinstall keeps telling me the Main site doesn't have them, so I tried 200812 current and that doesn't work either. Is there an FTP problem this morning? -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:04:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE341065674 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A038FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so259094eyf.7 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hhqqeUCMCLD9W5Ztk3MFWAwyu4ZTPRfY2DyFabnK8DU=; b=o876Ze7GuiFtymKdpkbAg1NaS51lykglHKHzCcDW31F8Gm5oEwaoVMDufg3WN/0Iy0 ng7IioURlaQpEH1llVhfg2eXpq/1T+LgSUcT4esTrVmAq9XN2shIS+yU1thkdLqozp2z coDW5eTjQ0LBwarCF0pqE3u8/ft5oh1/TxXyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s9gYej2us8tGgzybXdRhBqNmXC0RkPvJaGPQIGvruCr3rX4jGdWQ83l/RwDEavWd8C Gz22ZCwMF4sAod8+bXylCJcaoYIw/bmQW1CS0PbXn0oRDBnf+VNW7gm6WBKWeNKt1ZNz Rnwv7L1ODqS35ywYoArr49Nud7hgsFlDm885o= Received: by 10.210.37.16 with SMTP id k16mr1333490ebk.58.1237737878668; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4488522.home.otenet.gr [94.71.73.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm4776143eyz.9.2009.03.22.09.04.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C66194.1040301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:04:36 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Remorque" References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:04:40 -0000 "Remorque" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > >> On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: >> >>> I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have >>> successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel >>> config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG >>> kernel.I have csup-ped today. >>> However, my compilation fails, viz: >>> >>> cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall >>> -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes >>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef >>> -Wno-pointer-sign >>> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys >>> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS >>> >> -include >> >>> opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param >>> >> inline-unit-growth=100 >> >>> --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone >>> -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float >>> -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror >>> /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since I >>> wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should not >>> >> be >> >>> failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this gets >>> fixed? :) >>> >> You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on my >> system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment >> in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. >> >> Kent >> > > > Hi Kent, > > Thank you for replying. > > The fact is that: > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using FreeBSD > 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, csup > (src, ports) and buildworld. > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after the > system updates. > > Your guess is wrong:-) > > If you csup'd source as you say above, you are now on 7-STABLE. There have been some changes in the atheros driver, and I noticed your build stopped there. Look at the new GENERIC conf file: device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath If your custom configuration file comes from editing a 7.0-RELEASE e.g. GENERIC, it will fail. Use the newer GENERIC as a starting point, or simply replace the atheros entries with the ones above. This change is also documented in /usr/src/UPDATING From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:05:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877B3106567A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8CB8FC20 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1358359bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:05:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+3E8ezLL+nYs/mOqwaNQNbLBIJcIANnheNwJo6lc7ds=; b=LpXNffLyY+BYLdkr+iokjHRbgib4mY2szH302fyzlH/DXAR0iGHAyJXCyAXUWjTJGy KO9+/xG4lCj+dFrOKU/TMATyKxj/O52e8aOC7bgJfqG13GOH0i5n8m809tNRENX+5D1b AavzKylNViTN3FkVk9M9DrYxPKoUE40JHNrss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UbnO9WK7Z6tOsFtw8qmbx0U4mshBi7xg3Z8FHeMrshd4nJdmJUvbL658b6kdKSVuUC fM4iRYO30nHOzSIqVk1Qq8FaaLXd+y+mj3F1h0z5JKa9qttkvW3XP9NLLfJJrCy7Pv/q EEhtXyNz0kRu2xGpKOCiSFGCbu0NicsBiDup4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.11 with SMTP id l11mr2852085fap.50.1237737911995; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:05:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ljqxlfdl.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <87ljqxlfdl.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:05:11 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903220905g446abd58jd1957113f9a1a577@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:05:15 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:53:00 +0300, "\"Remorque\"" > wrote: > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The kernel > > config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a DEBUG > > kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall > > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes > > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > -include > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > inline-unit-growth=100 > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > *** Error code 1 > > This snippet does not include *any* compiler warning or error line. Are > you building with a high -j option? No. > If yes, can you try removing the already built stuff from `/usr/obj/*' and > rebuilding without any -jXXX > option in the buildworld/buildkernel command-line? > I have removed the stuff in /usr/obj/* and now rebuilding kernel again. Let me see what happens. PS: I have never used any -j option ever, so this is pretty odd. This also happens to be the first AMD (Quad Core) box that I have ever build. If it matters, the dmesg output can be seen here - http://gw.crownkenya.com/~wash/dmesg-amd.txt -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:10:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606E5106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from pluto.atopia.net (pluto.atopia.net [67.222.134.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F46E8FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by pluto.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 6A19322917; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pluto.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6876E2290A; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200903201157.01180.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: References: <200903201015.00654.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200903201157.01180.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL 5.0 on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:10:52 -0000 > Yes. Linux threads is a port of the linux threading library > (devel/linuxthreads). OK... this setup still seems to underperform 64 bit RHEL 5.x for at least our setup. Unless I'm missing something. Our sites are higher traffic - 100-300 threads/connections at any given time. Perhaps that's where the lag lies? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:17:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C494B106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8DA8FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1360878bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DIGAFp85SRhOLXAlVz2uSmd2IBYkTCZyG+LbJ6lMPyg=; b=K2F55KhE+9v9x6DTlfJyjggYuvYdtrdKSFQA+wH+xFt4lIJ/gegVgZNU+otQkQuz8b LW2GdiQoWi7pcnYVYL3Ty1DAWj9W3mnY8djQhHsLAtACEDcMRyRL2ywcJyuDPSfF4VLp CXl0x4B+4bjCOdhmXuUulNaWUQiZP0sgWzhSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OwbAX8E9OZxF7Q0ulXfOufYSOycLL1KPkc5B1J1ygaKjNjvB5L/XBFKzwkZIi/MCY9 XS0CG7FIO+ms3XJ1D9Y13N4hZ/O2gHrIwib9KRFn8MJy/l2FsYTRsRnw7e/Gro5AERTi gnntUGjTo+2hMmASDR6439ZvBBQhF1FH+ENJ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.208 with SMTP id f16mr5145098faq.91.1237738674594; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C66194.1040301@gmail.com> References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> <49C66194.1040301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:17:54 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903220917n3303e10bpe1233dc97e75c168@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:17:58 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > "Remorque" wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > >> On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > >> > >>> I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > >>> successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The > kernel > >>> config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to build a > DEBUG > >>> kernel.I have csup-ped today. > >>> However, my compilation fails, viz: > >>> > >>> cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 > -Wall > >>> -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > >>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > >>> -Wno-pointer-sign > >>> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > >>> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > >>> > >> -include > >> > >>> opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > >>> > >> inline-unit-growth=100 > >> > >>> --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > >>> -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > >>> -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > >>> /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > >>> *** Error code 1 > >>> > >>> Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > >>> *** Error code 1 > >>> > >>> Stop in /usr/src. > >>> *** Error code 1 > >>> > >>> Stop in /usr/src. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since > I > >>> wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should not > >>> > >> be > >> > >>> failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this > gets > >>> fixed? :) > >>> > >> You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on > my > >> system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > >> in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > >> > >> Kent > >> > > > > > > Hi Kent, > > > > Thank you for replying. > > > > The fact is that: > > > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using FreeBSD > > 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, > csup > > (src, ports) and buildworld. > > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after > the > > system updates. > > > > Your guess is wrong:-) > > > > > > If you csup'd source as you say above, you are now on 7-STABLE. > There have been some changes in the atheros driver, and I noticed your > build stopped there. > > Look at the new GENERIC conf file: > > device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's > device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) > options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors > device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath > > If your custom configuration file comes from editing a 7.0-RELEASE e.g. > GENERIC, it will fail. Use the newer GENERIC as a starting point, or > simply replace the atheros entries with the ones above. I used the 7.1 DVD to install, not 7.0. >From my observation (having gone thro 5 `make kernel` attempts now) is that the failure is quite random. I am not sure what is happening actually. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:30:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE6106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472768FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1142799ewy.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y92a9lqp8waMwe+kn5uZI/qYpeNseQv6Jk3yrD15pUg=; b=Z/Fk8O2rlTz/D9bC84uzdN3r3lmelT/JKGXPvjNuEIdNUJ+CXSkYd5429XF9fIYT81 1o7ZnToJNtp9KKhNnpiIHbSQOpM0MkooVOT1ZOc2pIS0dftaT3IEeqewMTWwy942vQjK I7WAw0GYy5Uzp0C10wRiyUjmpSX4yvIuVu8A8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xpo1SF+Gmi5g/gAgpqoYvKdjQlPb1IbgJUk1Jfubl6mQcY57lB0bnXYCJfRe/7/vTV PXJSwefRRW5oGJD198VgsK/My1szyyi9EPzjNuMuYFJxfW/QhlGaAhUZ1Z7tvG2uYqFf goaCcgJypWXYjH7qxbt+MAx9KabVR4QG/LyGY= Received: by 10.216.36.73 with SMTP id v51mr2307880wea.215.1237739441156; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4488522.home.otenet.gr [94.71.73.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm4805937eye.4.2009.03.22.09.30.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C667AE.2090806@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:30:38 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Remorque" References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> <49C66194.1040301@gmail.com> <991123400903220917n3303e10bpe1233dc97e75c168@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400903220917n3303e10bpe1233dc97e75c168@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:30:43 -0000 "Remorque" wrote: > > > > > > If you csup'd source as you say above, you are now on 7-STABLE. > There have been some changes in the atheros driver, and I noticed your > build stopped there. > > Look at the new GENERIC conf file: > > device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's > device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) > options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx > descriptors > device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath > > If your custom configuration file comes from editing a 7.0-RELEASE > e.g. > GENERIC, it will fail. Use the newer GENERIC as a starting point, or > simply replace the atheros entries with the ones above. > > > I used the 7.1 DVD to install, not 7.0. > From my observation (having gone thro 5 `make kernel` attempts now) is > that the failure is quite random. > I am not sure what is happening actually. > If you used the standard-supfile to csup src, you are still on 7.1-RELEASE+patches and this should not happen. If you used the stable-supfile for src, then the above still stands. Anyway, if it stops at different places every time, it may indicate a hardware failure of some sort (e.g. RAM). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 16:45:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD761065670 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3648FC15 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so716407fka.11 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KU1xSsSDhJGpUzPieGuztKEjPZMMLUb+foxub9dwo2g=; b=pa3ZdEWeka3e3CE69AJ3465wmhWSq4a9i0elVhDXVrx+cKpl98NN11NjKgh4z+yUeU QejYh/1TQDnG6rlQIKicb65fa1TmdNExWLpt7CsyGcfYXF7NwFgyR68S0+YiRwXw64X3 ZH72Oz8N84yHBFjGp/p+6GO4Occu1AS6/NVtw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BcJmfbbl9t2h+mk8I7DyoxM6E8Li5hnP4C9i1C6DALjm5essUkYyhqOV6/0OzG73AZ 8S+VglRyQdY4hWq08xRhZWsc081r+Vs5tyBNQEwrydN7sA9VnAYf8LQHz9LXVBy2VHyi jc7lqGAQzAAEiL3NOJeZBY2NoZfSLkiMBJK6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.9 with SMTP id y9mr5206454fap.19.1237740348564; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903220945v31fe058h55298edbcccd93b1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Jason Nordwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall cannot find snapshot releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:45:50 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jason Nordwick wrote: > I'm a previous FreeBSD user that used to track current and returning after a > few years. If my memory is correct, the definition of -stable, -release, and > -current seems to have changed? (but my memory sucks so excuse me if I'm > wrong). No. > > Can you no longer track -release, but instead -stable is actually more > advanced at times (more bug fixes and backports)? > You can track -RELEASE for security errata. > So I guess I would like to use -current or -stable and occasionally cvsup > the tree. I tried downloading the 200902 current and stable snapshots, and > sysinstall keeps telling me the Main site doesn't have them, so I tried > 200812 current and that doesn't work either. Is there an FTP problem this > morning? > How exactly are you trying to do this? If your answer is freebsd-update, read the manual page for freebsd-update, as it clearly states you cannot use it with -STABLE and -CURRENT. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 18:27:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4E9106566C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAD48FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2MIRaeS017737; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:27:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1237746457; bh=/4gzGsUazhcq/4LRtpD5Hq4nFeQQMvHeMTefjKxznQI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=Y8BJU+jB4d4l/ l6629CgnOpsebhjsaeHAfpi5MnPvdJZiWMS1ytvAPXiMawMVkr4EF1lo3oaZQpInv1g rM7ZSVO15T+TP4NQ6/nqbgOPwUhIEYo2zkRhb18No7aMPQ4CRnc+Rl7zV6Ez1CoYaDO u27aIz40g1ZqkOflWWoKhFBQ= From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:27:34 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903221127.34430.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: "\"Remorque\"" Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:27:39 -0000 On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:43:53 am "Remorque" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > > > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The > > > kernel config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to > > > build a DEBUG kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 > > > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > > > -Wno-pointer-sign > > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > > > > -include > > > > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > > > > inline-unit-growth=100 > > > > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, since > > > I wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should > > > not > > > > be > > > > > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this > > > gets fixed? :) > > > > You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on my > > system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > > in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > > > > Kent > > Hi Kent, > > Thank you for replying. > > The fact is that: > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using FreeBSD > 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, csup > (src, ports) and buildworld. > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after the > system updates. > > Your guess is wrong:-) Yes, you are right. I cvsuped and rebuilt my system and it died at the same spot. kent -- kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 19:07:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823A9106568B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D988FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1398061bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:07:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dR30gd1IePuxDOwkn6P9xeTC+xU/jQaiJO0jYwQ1mJk=; b=ekSq62leWRjT504f4ptDDQ2sweyLsuwotWQfNJxzrGTQML4TZqhtCA7xtwcToalHVp 9Hd90isocwnjP8BpmtfeSTL8qFSXO4Em8Nl9HtMz4uLRnigiA44wtzWj2EtUQH65YdQe 2O6rcY0UrhymRpcfUBAiBSA7gE+WrLBS6pFY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=d9N0Eb/M6GCRIJRrgQKNapkWgo/smqFrsSPgSxAQ16+mAFGbMOJxfPN6XtF3RTrqGs ef//6AYFB0D4ttiLNNuh3f9MYRg0bh5wJlNZla72JqvybRhR71q5McLux94kbLGNPTt7 vAZlPrj887A73QvpRpZc5dT5eAMonk+d+mSUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.3 with SMTP id l3mr5301939fap.48.1237748865332; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:07:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903221127.34430.kstewart@owt.com> References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903220823.56243.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903220843x78bc4cd3ta494dde23d5762ea@mail.gmail.com> <200903221127.34430.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:07:44 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903221207g3066c42y73e7cb5f82b32cc3@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Kent Stewart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:07:48 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:43:53 am "Remorque" wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I have > > > > successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" thing.The > > > > kernel config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the option to > > > > build a DEBUG kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 > > > > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > > > > -Wno-pointer-sign > > > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > > > > > > -include > > > > > > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > > > > > > inline-unit-growth=100 > > > > > > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > > > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, > since > > > > I wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it should > > > > not > > > > > > be > > > > > > > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this > > > > gets fixed? :) > > > > > > You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have on > my > > > system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > > > in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > > > > > > Kent > > > > Hi Kent, > > > > Thank you for replying. > > > > The fact is that: > > > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using FreeBSD > > 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, > csup > > (src, ports) and buildworld. > > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after > the > > system updates. > > > > Your guess is wrong:-) > > Yes, you are right. I cvsuped and rebuilt my system and it died at the same > spot. > Looks like AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 from 20090312 of /usr/src/UPDATING helped me compile my kernel successfully! Now another problem appears: fs# make installworld mkdir -p /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep install-info ln lockf make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6; done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=amd64 MACHINE=amd64 CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GRO FF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr /src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/us r/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making hierarchy -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/include mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p /var/named mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p / cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . cd /usr/share/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift ; done cd /usr/share/openssl/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shif t; shift; done cd /usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . cd /usr/share/nls; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/nls.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift ; done -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Installing everything -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install ===> share/info (install) ===> lib (install) ===> lib/csu/amd64 (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 444 crt1.o crti.o crtn.o gcrt1.o /usr/lib install:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/amd64. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I feel so unhappy with this system:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 19:39:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78234106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF1A8FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2MJdMZf020218; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:39:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1237750763; bh=XwYF/we92eXabo8qplsCzIOeD+Tbe89OGjvvrJ726Qw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=QkmJgztDR8M29 o9NNkPRLSx8u+R5m1q5Gg/z4O2ARlmyKI8A5J1kYwT7l4aFbBfnS7kGRuL2pUp+gEiT 9CXmcREDK+qYukscK3GeOw6mMtmJYm0i32eSr9H4//yRQ70q3q5S61kqt7TxttmxEWo E9mYQflWFeV0ux+WafwsbhPQ= From: Kent Stewart To: "\"Remorque\"" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:39:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903221127.34430.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903221207g3066c42y73e7cb5f82b32cc3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400903221207g3066c42y73e7cb5f82b32cc3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903221239.22484.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:39:24 -0000 On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:07:44 pm "Remorque" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:43:53 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I > > > > > have successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" > > > > > thing.The kernel config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed the > > > > > option to build a DEBUG kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > > > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > > > > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 > > > > > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > > > > > -Wno-pointer-sign > > > > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > > > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > > > > > > > > -include > > > > > > > > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > > > > > > > > inline-unit-growth=100 > > > > > > > > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > > > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float > > > > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, > > > > since > > > > > > > I wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it > > > > > should not > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope this > > > > > gets fixed? :) > > > > > > > > You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have > > > > on > > > > my > > > > > > system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > > > > in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > Hi Kent, > > > > > > Thank you for replying. > > > > > > The fact is that: > > > > > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using > > > FreeBSD 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > > > > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to install, > > > > csup > > > > > (src, ports) and buildworld. > > > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff after > > > > the > > > > > system updates. > > > > > > Your guess is wrong:-) > > > > Yes, you are right. I cvsuped and rebuilt my system and it died at the > > same spot. > > Looks like AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 from 20090312 of /usr/src/UPDATING helped me > compile my kernel successfully! > Now another problem appears: The AH_* stuff also fixed my problem. > > fs# make installworld > mkdir -p /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 > for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find > grep install-info ln lockf make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh > sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6; > done > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=amd64 MACHINE=amd64 > CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GRO > FF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac > PATH=/usr/obj/usr > /src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s >rc/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/us > r/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 make > -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> Making hierarchy > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy > cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/include > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p /var/named > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p / > cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys > cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . > cd /usr/share/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while > [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift > ; done > cd /usr/share/openssl/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" > /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s > "$2" "$1"; shif > t; shift; done > cd /usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . > cd /usr/share/nls; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/nls.alias`; while > [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift > ; done > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> Installing everything > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install > ===> share/info (install) > ===> lib (install) > ===> lib/csu/amd64 (install) > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 crt1.o crti.o crtn.o gcrt1.o /usr/lib > install:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/amd64. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > I feel so unhappy with this system:) This must be something from the 64-bit side of things because I am running what I just built and installed. The only thing I noticed was it says "FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE" when I looked at the dmesg. Life is boring without some challenges. That is why I like working with computers but they could take it easy on me at times :). Kent -- kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 19:43:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0261065674 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8416F8FC21 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1433224fxm.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:43:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bLc6EDH19DyZQZWs/OBMVzYDufPcmFxL4kdV/pkibLE=; b=uu8MnKbk1er3Paw60xP6/IZFF6aJZyJOeKWyl10FqhYpQIXVmOZW4V73EJf9munU5H YUK3YLrxb9t5Xa50omeC4MbNByT7zAd6Ba0kwIgow6YV5J7/w/IsDFyKNil0vMs6LiIN dAslNAGRs7xlhRPP49RFy4A+nd7CKUVdKBqTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ngepWr4YOZggsQle5KZFnjWh9Lc+rAoxMolMAeiNstonDRXCNh3Z32JE3Ewm4HsvIc B+9XYZpBxOf+I875X6Gg7l0C/lkRgf2x6oakyqgId/q1jrZyIDTTCMARpUhmtSAzf3yQ WirBUFtu1cN8oti7VjRCZVSEoZw1DNy3hIjXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.144 with SMTP id n16mr5330208fap.55.1237750989403; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:43:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903221239.22484.kstewart@owt.com> References: <991123400903220753o6909d0ban5ef235bacf2b3ab1@mail.gmail.com> <200903221127.34430.kstewart@owt.com> <991123400903221207g3066c42y73e7cb5f82b32cc3@mail.gmail.com> <200903221239.22484.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:43:09 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903221243g5c1edae9hc3d30725c88a551e@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Kent Stewart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:43:12 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 22 March 2009 12:07:44 pm "Remorque" wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 08:43:53 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Kent Stewart > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:53:00 am "Remorque" wrote: > > > > > > I have installed 7.1-RELEASE on a hardware with AMD processor. I > > > > > > have successfully buildworld, and now doing the "make kernel" > > > > > > thing.The kernel config file is pretty GENERIC, I only removed > the > > > > > > option to build a DEBUG kernel.I have csup-ped today. > > > > > > However, my compilation fails, viz: > > > > > > > > > > > > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 > > > > > > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > > > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual > -Wundef > > > > > > -Wno-pointer-sign > > > > > > -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > > > > > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS > > > > > > > > > > -include > > > > > > > > > > > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param > > > > > > > > > > inline-unit-growth=100 > > > > > > > > > > > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone > > > > > > -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow > -msoft-float > > > > > > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Werror > > > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FS. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and comment out all ath_* from the configuration, > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't really need them at this juncture, but I believe it > > > > > > should not > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > failing anyway. Do I just wait to csup again tomorrow and hope > this > > > > > > gets fixed? :) > > > > > > > > > > You have optimization options on the compile line that I don't have > > > > > on > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > system. From this, I would guess that you have a cflags statment > > > > > in /etc/make.conf and it is bitting you. > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > Hi Kent, > > > > > > > > Thank you for replying. > > > > > > > > The fact is that: > > > > > > > > 1. I have never used any optimizations ever since I started using > > > > FreeBSD 2. This is a new box, and there is no /etc/make.conf as yet > > > > > > > > The only things I have done on this box (a Dell SC1435) is to > install, > > > > > > csup > > > > > > > (src, ports) and buildworld. > > > > I was just gonna do the kernel, then start doing the other stuff > after > > > > > > the > > > > > > > system updates. > > > > > > > > Your guess is wrong:-) > > > > > > Yes, you are right. I cvsuped and rebuilt my system and it died at the > > > same spot. > > > > Looks like AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 from 20090312 of /usr/src/UPDATING helped me > > compile my kernel successfully! > > Now another problem appears: > > The AH_* stuff also fixed my problem. > > > > > fs# make installworld > > mkdir -p /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 > > for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find > > grep install-info ln lockf make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh > > sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` > /tmp/install.4l9c3cd6; > > done > > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=amd64 MACHINE=amd64 > > CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GRO > > FF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font > > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac > > PATH=/usr/obj/usr > > > /src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s > >rc/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/us > > r/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.4l9c3cd6 > make > > -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>> Making hierarchy > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy > > cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs > > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr > > mtree -eU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/include > > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p /var/named > > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p / > > cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys > > cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . > > cd /usr/share/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; > while > > [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift > > ; done > > cd /usr/share/openssl/man; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" > > /usr/src/etc/man.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s > > "$2" "$1"; shif > > t; shift; done > > cd /usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* . > > cd /usr/share/nls; set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/nls.alias`; > while > > [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift > > ; done > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>> Installing everything > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install > > ===> share/info (install) > > ===> lib (install) > > ===> lib/csu/amd64 (install) > > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 crt1.o crti.o crtn.o gcrt1.o /usr/lib > > install:No such file or directory > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/amd64. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > I feel so unhappy with this system:) > > This must be something from the 64-bit side of things because I am running > what I just built and installed. The only thing I noticed was it > says "FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE" when I looked at the dmesg. > Mine says the same version... well, 7.2 is around the corner anyway, > Life is boring without some challenges. That is why I like working with > computers but they could take it easy on me at times :). Yes, but this NOT a challenge to me, but frustration. Can only be a challenge to the DevTeam :) I consider myself an ordinary user in this case, -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 22:56:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C993106566B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2057F8FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n2MMuciI003853 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C6C225.9010104@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:56:37 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: What is the best XServer font configuration to use with international fonts (Cyrillic/Chinese/Korean) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:56:39 -0000 I use the following font section: Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" EndSection And I have many problems showing Cyrillic texts in Firefox. Letters are too thin. Some specific Belarus language issues too. What is the best font configuration to use to show all those languages nicely? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 23:26:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B396F1065672 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908B68FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id B78C316B5AC; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:26:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.74]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 46FA916B590; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:24:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:24:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <49C6C225.9010104@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20090322182155.X74315@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <49C6C225.9010104@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the best XServer font configuration to use with international fonts (Cyrillic/Chinese/Korean) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:26:26 -0000 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Yuri wrote: > I use the following font section: > Section "Files" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" > EndSection > > What is the best font configuration to use to show all those languages > nicely? The place to deal with these issues is in your windows manager, or in some cases, the configuration of individual applications. I do not know if there really is a single best solution to your problem, but only that the solution is not in the X configuration. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 23:31:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC671065687 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B348FC1E for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2MNW5AA068550 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:31:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:31:05 -0000 Guys, This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a remote computer (say, 25m apart) and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in my office? The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago. I've found "MuSe" and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 23:36:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C231065675 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A7F8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1456884bwz.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QQ63WXFeoZJXSXcW5Y+S9oN3FfuMQEpNSmB9xbkbxAE=; b=O5LwNLXtmDwtSxkdLlUmvhhvOi7WgEmIup82aY5YHxERROtla1x0Jm3AW+juQ5X+g8 irpN8HBquiHZYgRTnOvLWxmmfj7/HVgVGQ0T/B2mD5nkzPCcwsB+x2d2DoDm8Lo9LaHB 1sdbuo/+IVngr6GtqJz6c8fSHGQQgMXff8ir0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ImAfBOhzryESOgGNrjmlv9YSbcBKEoaZWUd+VWUjtFMiG1sC8vXG5FyJADnu3Pt4Ag E5AI+ci4ClrtdARnfnbsS94x6rggwcEkNB7nPYvw+9lG2DFS6mnp/ucG+dG49RD2mX// E0VMb1n/zb9KBFMDRaqKBSZfQKnCC03VIC8FE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.134 with SMTP id s6mr5506066fap.37.1237764996214; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903221636r91c7f82necdb9704939f95b1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:36:38 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] > simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a > remote computer (say, 25m apart) =A0and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on > the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in > my office? > > The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago. =A0I've found "MuS= e" > and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues. > Perhaps icecast or musicpd are what you're looking for. HTH. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 22 23:39:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD02106564A for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181CE8FC15 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n2MNdtkI012489; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C6CC4A.9080209@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:39:54 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <49C6C225.9010104@rawbw.com> <20090322182155.X74315@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20090322182155.X74315@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the best XServer font configuration to use with international fonts (Cyrillic/Chinese/Korean) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:39:56 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Yuri wrote: > >> I use the following font section: >> Section "Files" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" >> EndSection >> >> What is the best font configuration to use to show all those >> languages nicely? > > The place to deal with these issues is in your windows manager, or in > some > cases, the configuration of individual applications. I do not know if > there > really is a single best solution to your problem, but only that the > solution > is not in the X configuration. > Lars, I don't know understand why xorg.conf isn't the place. If there are no fonts for some language they should be installed and corresponding lines placed into xorg.conf. Some fonts may be defective. So they shouldn't be put there. So xorg.conf has to do with the problem. I specifically have an issue with the font calls "sans-serif" that FF uses to show Cyrillic texts. It must have come from FontPath in XServer. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 00:13:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB0F1065693 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1298FC21 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 61C8516B5CC; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.80]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 95F3C16B5C5; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:13:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:11:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:11:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <49C6CC4A.9080209@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20090322191121.L74464@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <49C6C225.9010104@rawbw.com> <20090322182155.X74315@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <49C6CC4A.9080209@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the best XServer font configuration to use with international fonts (Cyrillic/Chinese/Korean) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:13:17 -0000 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Yuri wrote: > Lars Eighner wrote: >> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Yuri wrote: >> >>> I use the following font section: >>> Section "Files" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" >>> EndSection >>> >>> What is the best font configuration to use to show all those languages >>> nicely? >> >> The place to deal with these issues is in your windows manager, or in >> some cases, the configuration of individual applications. I do not know >> if there really is a single best solution to your problem, but only that >> the solution is not in the X configuration. >> > > Lars, > > I don't know understand why xorg.conf isn't the place. If there are no fonts > for some language they should be installed and corresponding lines placed into > xorg.conf. That's right. But I see you did not install the cyrillic fonts. Install the port x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic from the ports collect. The port should add the font path to your x configuration file if it in the normal place. If it doesn't, you can add the path manually after you verify that the port did install and the fonts are in the appropriate directory. > Some fonts may be defective. So they shouldn't be put there. > So xorg.conf has to do with the problem. The directories in the path in the x configuration file are collections of fonts. You cannot delete individual fonts from the x configuration file. > I specifically have an issue with the font calls "sans-serif" that FF uses > to show Cyrillic texts. Then change the defaults in FF preferences. Choose Preferences from the Edit menu, then Content. Go to the Advanced menu from Fonts & Colors. Use the drop-down menu to change Fonts for: Western to Fonts for: Cyrillic. Select fonts for each of the generic families: Proportional, Serif, etc. Uncheck the box for Allow pages to choose their own font (unless you are willing to allow authors to choose fonts you do not like). Click OK and close the Preferences menu. > It must have come from FontPath in XServer. Yes, but mangling the x configuration is not the way to deal with it. If FF cannot find the font it thinks should be the default, there is no guarantee that FF's second choice will be any more pleasing (and it could be a great deal worse --- second choice might be refusing to display at all or using a Western font with many missing characters). -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 02:00:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705FD1065739 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org) Received: from world.eastlink.com (world.eastlink.com [98.116.180.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38178FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org) Received: from [10.42.0.7] (home.cheeze.org [72.224.216.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by world.eastlink.com (8.14.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n2N1xxlc014259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:00:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 world.eastlink.com n2N1xxlc014259 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=cheeze.org; s=world; t=1237773601; bh=ia1iBlum8YRzxYgX3T8UDn2gagZxvVRjwimXpngXTWs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G2lBhH3uDoQGocbk5eBOzUuqceQ+OFteMZTuzEMQ+eDInh8tw4xVrweMHcmenxrZA CpUwSMtrFyiX0BjZfl25duC+ZZBoWC9xvUySdm6WUY6yBYcy4klAKi8Ccu7PBKpHkb Bzi4N203gIcxA0dg96pW8puK4xcXES3okSkxIF3Q= Message-ID: <49C6ED22.8000801@cheeze.org> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:00:02 -0400 From: Jubal Kessler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jubal-freebsd-20090321@cheeze.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:00:23 -0000 Morgan Wesström wrote: > I've put together a documentation, mainly to help myself being > consistent, but your free to look at my examples there and the reasoning > behind it. It's in the "Firewall setup" guide but it's rather long since > I explain in detail every part of the firewall rule set: > > http://homerouters.info/wiki/Main_Page > > Be aware that I'm not a very good teacher... ;-) On the contrary, you're an excellent teacher, and I now have a working pf configuration handling my NAT duties as well as outbound traffic shaping (and handy graphs, too). Thank you very much for the well-written guide! Jubal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 03:46:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86579106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7228FC1D for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2190033wfg.7 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:46:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3J1ZgUgdaIh9Z3kvmvE+U+Qk51ENPvv2Rgy9evYtAWk=; b=K3f2+xZkvfvCy6rMd1rYhLah5kKsUURCe6Ve97cvUw2xkqfY5FJJNlGVHRyQ4H1mKS 2Sfxw+PYnaDovSGAf9MCBTMwJe7oCIkwXQv3SnRNIIJdwUU/FhcowwXV610+xiqERJgh 0X/LBnbSAvGnqWZAoqjXmoLbJUjQCf3IPwRO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AzkQYqZ78bBugIAd6w8rDAiofq/AteAz/l1K4qM8LZZubUTLxqwzF0ZWquX2kpbr/Q V4j1TqOWjXRnjBLDE4KXWMSTqlndR3sFvYbgJnfTsUdbnOfXcf1KWnkdkD3yP3nOUMWQ zgfN5HwCdsdu6JKpMs8BcUVR0i/Pn0ixlHcp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.156.19 with SMTP id d19mr2641277wfe.6.1237778275887; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:17:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090322233924.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090322032105.0CB501065781@hub.freebsd.org> <20090322153329.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20090322233924.O95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:17:55 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660903222017yb23f423nc73b11125f25d8dd@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:46:55 -0000 You guys are sweethearts!. Thanks to everyone who contributed! It has been quite helpful. I have much reading to do :) -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 03:56:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29EA106566B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hariemani@yahoo.com) Received: from web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2C838FC2A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hariemani@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 85593 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2009 03:56:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237780606; bh=i/EXalmYs0+o7cZmN2YYj+ZVU/eeFWXVngr4q3Ri4gc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w0WNuubE7T4pdzNTC48Z/MeT/dPvVYlrHemGT1KldQmAZwt5eHQ1IIVrNvpwjvjWGdOpOpvJK5CQeYLTByCoL0gdqPER9gqZSdnohKuh1syeRsMWcieWmfJv3yYJD7vY3vq+GH/D22+SFWuiNxRISava1dQprcnprtqi5S2t0JU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wqvxo9Qh36eBW4Ex0lNxCVh0E33mjtQxicPZQQRjwKwoMH+NyZYLu750Eoa2X3/Ubthfn62KbpFgIMx8mxyt9kOAfc8iol1yxWiYMG57fqgvsVD7/s5xlxwPPWtIXgavPR3PmcuL+1pc/kjW5SSyRWP+eC6rW1Yf1RqL1GMmh0E=; Message-ID: <27821.85381.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mmmn_wsVM1n7kROyRc41on9b9pfmR3gOdVVu50Cn.2BKMxeddNBsKsMl1sfc3qcoqg1tZNFlwo_WCGUH2dF42LYWY560UZyytj8h6oUju5xdP6GTQxd4bE_NIU_6esAQUeWP9HpYF5q1lIwU4Ewi8R71ehaWx51sYtNUPie0U2K2heRpAeIZXlax_rolcufs2Bt3Vg6D19sX_c_N0U4eSMYEsfi54iw6aQbppcZ6gEY- Received: from [60.54.197.194] by web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:56:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:56:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Hari Emani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: CARP Load Balance by CUP - Memory - Ethernet Usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:56:47 -0000 Good Day every one! =0A=0AWe have a situation and we are looking for a solu= tion (the=0Aclient is specific to implement this way):=0A=0AWe are using Fr= eeBSD FW cluster (2 units) for our DMZ zone.=0AWe are using CARP for VIP an= d round robin load balance. The=0Aresult is not always balance, most of the= times it is 80/20.=0AWe are looking at the following solution:=0AImplement= a solution that provides LB based on the=0Afollowing factors:=0A=0A1.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 CPU=0A2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Memory=0A3.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Et= hernet traffic utilization=0A=0ATheoretically I can think when a packet com= es to FW1, if it is busy (say CPU is 80%) then we need to implement a solut= ion to send the packet to FW2 and vice verse. =0AI heard that some tools ex= ist to complement CARP for this purpose, but could not find at Google. =0A= =0AI would highly appreciate any suggestions on this (or alternate solution= s =E2=80=93 we know we can use LB appliances, but we will have to many of t= hem for several other servers too). =0A=0AI would appreciate your help or a= ny alternate suggestions on how we can achieve this solution (apart from CA= RP). =0A=0A=0AHave lots of fun,=0A =0ASincerely, =0A=0A =0AHari=0A=0A=0A=0A= Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 05:08:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C979E106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EBF8FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1521921fxm.43 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=FBrVeTxJV6wLHbgI3rjz3g/HEUer6YYPX4koitr6ERo=; b=BsSQTI2zgZGV3aGeaSHLI6MTaW/HBRsh2+l7NVBWvhQiKzhj3enixQbnnd85NfG6v7 o4tPw+LOqXCcAJHQ7HuGNxFiWZuClBa7JfHt6XPNNwewak7mczmEL6GJBKrXRk3abaKl QbwC4Xc6UMdf6Jwlv0cJv0WEeeF081JxWx0hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=VKlfGdnxSP9iC1q4PNCumU2+3vQo5q8ZYSj8qZR2XlNPyzmSrUDaw5Q6CH+kbG6ibO bsODaKU0Z/EHgyvt8JutQxkUvUb17dXLJoBiTJgTdr0apARZgJNx4/4xWLZERccSc7US M2nDsvCWRUD933RWgmvMCU64tYv2Bi5tN1/PM= Received: by 10.103.213.10 with SMTP id p10mr2885404muq.17.1237784922231; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm9236881muq.5.2009.03.22.22.08.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:06:42 +0200 To: "Gary Kline" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:08:44 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:31:00 +0200, Gary Kline wrote: > The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago. I've found "MuSe" > and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues. I use samba (a bit tricky but it can be done). Wanted to use NFS but unfortunatelly I couldn't get any NFS clients working on xp 64. On other unix/linux system it works incredibly great (astonishing great even). If it were up to me I would choose NFS over Samba and any other similar app because: 1) It's idioticly simple to set up 2) Unbelivable performance 3) Accomodates windows, unix and linux (the latter 2 have native suport for it; tryed solaris 10, freebsd, openbsd, slackware, fedora, vector, and the list can continue; some big problems on xp64; moderate problems on xp32) 4) Less buggy the samba 5) Easyer to configure/maintain etc... Personally am not so fond of icecast and similar apps because it's so much easyer to have 1 app doing all you need. Let me explain here. Wioth NFS I mount (in Windows) a share under a letter and set it to automount every login. It's so much easyer to have full access to that share as if it were a local partition then having 1 app for winamp, another for file sharing, another for god-knows what else, and so on. But then again, that's just me :) Best regards, Claudius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 05:15:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD748106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (exfesmq01.datapipe-corp.net [64.106.130.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C9A8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.2] (192.168.128.24) by EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (64.106.130.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.340.0; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:14:21 -0400 Message-ID: <49C71ADA.7090101@datapipe.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:15:06 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christine Lee References: <38F36887-E6D9-4DFE-9411-E1DC2E84C6AB@destinationhair.com> In-Reply-To: <38F36887-E6D9-4DFE-9411-E1DC2E84C6AB@destinationhair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: {Classmates#889-142}read it immediately X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:15:15 -0000 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " This message may contain confidential or privileged information. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 07:41:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C34106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AF68FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LlenA-0007s8-Sb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: <22655469.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:41:52 -0700 (PDT) From: A & J To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19335910.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: mkusd.cn@gmail.com References: <19335910.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: HP 2133 MiniNote & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:41:54 -0000 I try to install freebsd 7.1 on HP2133 but can't startx who can get a step for all need install ports ? kuantem wrote: > > If anyone else out there is trying to run FreeBSD 7 on their HP 2133 > MiniNote lets share some progress. > > I'm currently having issues with the Broadcom wireless card working and > along with the audio drivers. After compiling a new KERNEL the hardware is > located however I'm getting no sound and no activity from wifi. > > Suggestion anyone? > > I'll post my kernel config and dmesg in a few... > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/HP-2133-MiniNote---FreeBSD-tp19335910p22655469.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 09:34:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61A11065672 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32FF38FC1B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2009 09:34:33 -0000 Received: from adsl58-81.ath.forthnet.gr (EHLO [192.168.1.5]) [77.49.89.81] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 10:34:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/aMsFEXD7agjuXLguGydiOpXBRgQb53tEI+NktwL QsYjWSJCp8PpTI Message-ID: <49C75788.70102@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:34:00 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hari Emani References: <27821.85381.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <27821.85381.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP Load Balance by CUP - Memory - Ethernet Usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:34:39 -0000 Hari Emani wrote: > Good Day every one! > > We have a situation and we are looking for a solution (the client is > specific to implement this way): The client must be wrong! > We are using FreeBSD FW cluster (2 units) for our DMZ zone. We are > using CARP for VIP and round robin load balance. The result is not > always balance, most of the times it is 80/20. We are looking at the > following solution: Implement a solution that provides LB based on > the following factors: > > 1. CPU Hm, let's say that a host needs to send a packet to VIP, how will it know the CPU utilization of the FWs and choose the right one? > 2. Memory Hm, same as above plus s/CPU/memory/ > 3. Ethernet traffic utilization That's feasible. But it's the sender, that is the switch, who knows at what rate it sends to each FW. The thing with IP forwarding load balancing is that it must be done in a non-intrusive way, you don't want to add additional logic to the existing users of the network. You don't to change the infra- structure. > Theoretically I can think when a packet comes to FW1, if it is busy > (say CPU is 80%) then we need to implement a solution to send the > packet to FW2 and vice verse. I heard that some tools exist to > complement CARP for this purpose, but could not find at Google. Since FW1 will have to process the packet, that is forward the packet to FW2, why not forward it towards its destination? How forwarding to FW2 would be more lightweight? > > I would highly appreciate any suggestions on this (or alternate > solutions – we know we can use LB appliances, but we will have to > many of them for several other servers too). > > I would appreciate your help or any alternate suggestions on how we > can achieve this solution (apart from CARP). The new CARP in OpenBSD provides an additional mechanism to do load-balancing. This new mechanism achieves better load- balancing with a downside. Read more here: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=carp That's not in FreeBSD for the time being. Also, it has nothing to do with your requirements about memory, CPU and ethernet usage. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 09:45:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A21D1065670 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5388FC1A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49B6DBF7001EC3BE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:45:21 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AohUADf3xklV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBUIEwigKHSoEbAQEBAR4XC7oSg34G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,407,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="498228531" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2009 10:45:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2N9jKnG073153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:45:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49C75A30.3000402@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:45:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090314) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> <49C6ED22.8000801@cheeze.org> In-Reply-To: <49C6ED22.8000801@cheeze.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:45:23 -0000 >> http://homerouters.info/wiki/Main_Page >> >> Be aware that I'm not a very good teacher... ;-) > > On the contrary, you're an excellent teacher, and I now have a working > pf configuration handling my NAT duties as well as outbound traffic > shaping (and handy graphs, too). Thank you very much for the > well-written guide! > > Jubal > That's very kind of you, I'm already blushing :-) I'm happy it helped solve your problem. If you find any errors or other weirdness, all feedback is appreciated. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 09:48:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E302B1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995048FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49C0BA21001BB6C4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:48:00 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnZQAK/3xklV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBUIdJN4Myh0qBGwEBAQEeFwu6EoN+Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,407,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="465832107" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2009 10:48:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2N9lw0j073184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:47:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49C75ACE.8070201@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:47:58 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090314) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <38F36887-E6D9-4DFE-9411-E1DC2E84C6AB@destinationhair.com> <49C71ADA.7090101@datapipe.com> In-Reply-To: <49C71ADA.7090101@datapipe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: {Classmates#889-142}read it immediately X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:48:02 -0000 Paul Procacci wrote: > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Darn, here I was expecting a completely different kind of answer. Now I have to find something else to brighten up my day... ;-) /M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 10:13:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA81106566C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40278FC19 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2NADLPN014325; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:13:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2NADHdH014322; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:13:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:13:17 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> Message-ID: References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:13:29 -0000 > This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] > simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a > remote computer (say, 25m apart) and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on > the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in > my office? cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 13:18:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5040D1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C1E8FC1B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2967E818; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:18:01 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:18:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> <4ad871310903212304j2e7fea6dve110380de02c97c4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903212304j2e7fea6dve110380de02c97c4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903231418.00491.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tim Judd , Glen Barber Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:18:03 -0000 On Sunday 22 March 2009 07:04:14 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated > > ports tree today. > > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > # make install > > # > > > > > > > > So what am i missing? > > If xorg is already installed, you won't see any output. This is > "expected" behavior, as far as I can tell. No. This is expected behavior if make -V INSTALL_COOKIE -C /usr/ports/x11/xorg exists, which can happen if: 1) You installed xorg on this machine and didn't make clean afterwards and now try the install again. 2) You have /usr/ports mounted via nfs or nullfs from another machine or the host system in a jail and have not set WRKDIRPREFIX. You installed xorg on this other machine or the host system and did not make clean. 3) You have WRKDIRPREFIX set and that directory is mounted via nfs/nullfs. Same applies as in 2) 4) You or some software ran: touch `make -V INSTALL_COOKIE -C /usr/ports/x11/xorg` > What happens on 'make > deinstall; make fetch-recursive; make install' ? This can be bad as deinstall will only delete the install and package cookie. In other words, it will reuse the build and configure. If you were expecting to upgrade your port, then this has unexpected results, especially with meta ports. In 90% of the case you will want to run make clean. Only if you want to reuse a build you've done (for jails or on other machine, with same architecture and OS version), you can use deinstall. However, deinstall relies on /var/db/pkg, specifically if pkg_info cannot find the port, it will be assumed it's not installed. It will go ahead and install then, which can leave your installed ports with multiple versions of the same software. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 13:40:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13B61065670 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875F08FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1247101yxm.13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yOEalqzNND/bY7yRk9pHloiIqaNxW4im5+3zOub1W/o=; b=DalBJhy7JBgDnpRGCra50ePl4JXV1Ndkpizzlvpn2MpSN6//LTDuH6j2yGW4K6MWuo JyschgVEux9NAn1Z5wuikbslxhiDVI6hDwZDK5Iqg+O5X+Q3/7/RtT+8V70U8306O6ll pMo3Si/cXHsGjoCPtEfFZjag9Ug6RxvSXKBJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ql0jGr0tvRS6IaWKNsgposvegIb/XuhbbLghp5Oygmcjn1Ap2+K1uKvpBbuiX0hL26 R9buDmgmNkSnfBpx7jwxOomvVRP641bRGXDUjxsQdL4puCeGWYaKd2v0CNNJN75omkeA 2IGUn/9eANKEWuL4aQwOkQKOmaxP4/O5MrOFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: msoulier@gmail.com Received: by 10.150.53.2 with SMTP id b2mr3962390yba.31.1237814365773; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:19:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44wsaj5564.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <20090321124859.GA27682@anton.digitaltorque.ca> <44wsaj5564.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:19:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 32c58d294748d9bc Message-ID: From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash suddenly doesn't like $() syntax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:40:50 -0000 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Since the update to bash 4.0, the port needs to be built with bison > instead of the system yacc. =A0The port has been updated to do this; make > sure you have version 1.111 of the port's Makefile. Ok, that's what I have. I'm rebuilding it now. Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 13:59:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECE5106566B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Sergey_Kirichok@miromix.kiev.ua) Received: from miromix.kiev.ua (mail.miromix.kiev.ua [213.186.214.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E1B8FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Sergey_Kirichok@miromix.kiev.ua) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (helo=kirichoks) by miromix.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LlkED-000Dbj-5D for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:30:13 +0200 From: "Sergey Kirichok" To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:29:48 +0200 Organization: MiroMIX United Ltd. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01C9ABCC.33C1D970" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 thread-index: Acmru3AGOKEfuk+rQuOauJFybsqUFg== X-Spam-Score: -4.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD on Dell Servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey_Kirichok@miromix.kiev.ua List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C9ABCC.33C1D970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Yesterday we successfully tested FreeBSD 7.0 on servers Dell PowerEdge 1850 and Dell PowerEdge R200. Installation passed correctly without any issues, both servers works properly. If needed, you may add this information to supported hardware. Best regards, Sergey Kirichok Technical Director, MiroMIX United Ltd. Dell Authorised Distributor Dell Authorised Service Provider Dell | EMC2 Service Delivery Partner Office phone +380 44 503 0115 Fax: +380 44 503 0116 Desk phone +380 44 503 0117 Mobile: +380 50 352 9729 e-mail: Sergey_Kirichok@miromix.kiev.ua ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C9ABCC.33C1D970 Content-Type: text/plain; name="pe1850.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pe1850.txt" FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 12:18:24 UTC 2007 = root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Mar 21 08:42:44 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, = 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: The Regents of the University of California. = All rights reserved. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The = FreeBSD Foundation. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 12:18:24 UTC = 2007 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: = root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = quality 0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz = 686-class CPU) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf4a = Stepping =3D 10 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: = Features=3D0xbfebfbff Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: = Features2=3D0x641d Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: AMD Features=3D0x20100000 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: AMD Features2=3D0x1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Logical CPUs per core: 2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: real memory =3D 2147221504 (2047 MB) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: avail memory =3D 2091679744 (1994 MB) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 = CPUs Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 4 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ioapic2 irqs 64-87 on motherboard Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, = RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 = (Dec 24 2007 12:17:58) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz = quality 1000 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port = 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acpi_hpet0: iomem = 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 900 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: p4tcc0: on cpu0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: p4tcc1: on cpu1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff = on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib1: at device 2.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib2: at device 0.0 on = pci1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amr0: mem = 0xf80f0000-0xf80fffff,0xfe9e0000-0xfe9fffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on = pci2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amr0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amr0: delete logical drives supported by = controller Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amr0: Firmware 521X, BIOS = H430, 256MB RAM Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib3: at device 0.2 on = pci1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci3: on pcib3 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib4: at device 4.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci4: on pcib4 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib5: at device 5.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci5: on pcib5 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib6: at device 0.0 on = pci5 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci6: on pcib6 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xfe6e0000-0xfe6fffff irq 64 at = device 7.0 on pci6 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:13:72:63:19:09 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em0: [FILTER] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib7: at device 0.2 on = pci5 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci7: on pcib7 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em1: port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xfe4e0000-0xfe4fffff irq 65 at = device 8.0 on pci7 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em1: Ethernet address: 00:13:72:63:19:0a Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: em1: [FILTER] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib8: at device 6.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci8: on pcib8 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci0: port 0xbce0-0xbcff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub0: on usb0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci1: port 0xbcc0-0xbcdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci1: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub1: on usb1 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhci2: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb2: on uhci2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub2: on usb2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ehci0: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ehci0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 = usb1 usb2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb3: on ehci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub3: on usb3 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub4: on uhub3 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub4: multiple transaction translators Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pcib9: at device 30.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pci9: on pcib9 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: vgapci0: port = 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff,0xfe1f0000-0xfe1fffff irq 18 at = device 13.0 on pci9 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: isa0: on isab0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: atapci0: port = 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ata0: on atapci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ata0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ata1: on atapci0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ata1: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: fdc0: port = 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: fdc0: [FILTER] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port = 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sio0: type 16550A Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sio0: [FILTER] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: orm0: at iomem = 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xccfff,0xec000-0xeffff pnpid = ORM0000 on isa0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: atkbdc0: at port = 0x60,0x64 on isa0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: atkbd0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed = irqs 0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df = iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ums0: on uhub2 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: hptrr: no controller detected. Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amr0: delete logical drives supported by = controller Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amrd0: on = amr0 Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: amrd0: 34680MB (71024640 sectors) RAID 1 = (optimal) Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mar 21 08:42:44 kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s1a Mar 21 08:42:44 savecore: no dumps found Mar 21 08:42:46 root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x413c product 0x2003 = bus uhub2 Mar 21 08:42:46 kernel: ukbd0: on uhub2 Mar 21 08:42:46 kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0 Mar 21 08:50:51 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Mar 21 08:56:17 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1 Mar 21 08:59:00 kernel: em1: link state changed to UP Mar 21 08:59:23 kernel: em0: link state changed to UP Mar 21 08:59:23 kernel: em1: link state changed to DOWN Mar 21 09:00:07 su: test to root on /dev/ttyp0 ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C9ABCC.33C1D970 Content-Type: text/plain; name="r200.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="r200.txt" FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 12:18:24 UTC 2007 = root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Mar 21 08:22:55 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, = 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: The Regents of the University of California. = All rights reserved. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The = FreeBSD Foundation. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 12:18:24 UTC = 2007 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: = root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = quality 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ = 2.13GHz (2133.42-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x6fb = Stepping =3D 11 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: = Features=3D0xbfebfbff Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: = Features2=3D0xe3bd Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: AMD Features=3D0x20100000 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: AMD Features2=3D0x1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Cores per package: 4 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: real memory =3D 2146115584 (2046 MB) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: avail memory =3D 2090594304 (1993 MB) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 = CPUs Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, = RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 = (Dec 24 2007 12:17:58) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz = quality 1000 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port = 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acpi_hpet0: iomem = 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz = quality 900 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: est0: on = cpu0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: p4tcc0: on cpu0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: est1: on = cpu1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: p4tcc1: on cpu1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu2: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: est2: on = cpu2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: p4tcc2: on cpu2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: cpu3: on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: est3: on = cpu3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: p4tcc3: on cpu3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff = on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib1: irq 16 at device = 1.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib2: irq 16 at device = 28.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: port = 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xdfcec000-0xdfceffff,0xdfcf0000-0xdfcfffff irq 16 at = device 0.0 on pci2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: MPI Version=3D1.5.14.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 Mar 21 08:22:55 last message repeated 2 times Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x21 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x21 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib3: irq 16 at device = 28.4 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci3: on pcib3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge0: mem 0xdfdf0000-0xdfdfffff irq 16 at device = 0.0 on pci3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: miibus0: on bge0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: brgphy0: PHY 1 = on miibus0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, = 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:bb:44:6f Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib4: irq 17 at device = 28.5 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci4: on pcib4 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge1: mem 0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 17 at device = 0.0 on pci4 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: miibus1: on bge1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: brgphy1: PHY 1 = on miibus1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, = 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge1: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:bb:44:70 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: bge1: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci0: port = 0xcc60-0xcc7f irq 21 at device 29.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub0: on usb0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci1: port = 0xcc80-0xcc9f irq 20 at device 29.1 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci1: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub1: on usb1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci2: port = 0xcca0-0xccbf irq 21 at device 29.2 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhci2: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb2: on uhci2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub2: on usb2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ehci0: mem = 0xdfaffc00-0xdfafffff irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ehci0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb3: EHCI version 1.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 = usb1 usb2 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb3: on = ehci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: usb3: USB revision 2.0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub3: on usb3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub4: on uhub3 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub4: multiple transaction translators Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pcib5: at device 30.0 on = pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pci5: on pcib5 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: vgapci0: port = 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 19 at = device 5.0 on pci5 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: isa0: on isab0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atapci0: port = 0xcc30-0xcc37,0xcc28-0xcc2b,0xcc38-0xcc3f,0xcc2c-0xcc2f,0xcc40-0xcc4f,0xc= c50-0xcc5f irq 23 at device 31.2 on pci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atapci0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata2: on atapci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata2: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata3: on atapci0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata3: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: fdc0: port = 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: fdc0: does not respond Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port = 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio0: type 16550A Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio0: [FILTER] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed = irqs 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: fdc0: port = 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: fdc0: does not respond Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed = irqs 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: orm0: at iomem = 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcb7ff,0xec000-0xeffff pnpid = ORM0000 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ata1: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atkbdc0: at port = 0x60,0x64 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: atkbd0: [ITHREAD] Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed = irqs 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df = iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ums0: on uhub1 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: hptrr: no controller detected. Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: acd0: CDRW at ata2-slave SATA150 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: da0: Fixed Direct = Access SCSI-5 device Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: da0: 300.000MB/s transfers Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: da0: Command Queueing Enabled Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: da0: 237464MB (486326272 512 byte sectors: 255H = 63S/T 30272C) Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Mar 21 08:22:55 kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a Mar 21 08:22:55 savecore: no dumps found Mar 21 08:22:56 root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x413c product 0x2003 = bus uhub1 Mar 21 08:22:56 kernel: ukbd0: on uhub1 Mar 21 08:22:56 kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0 Mar 21 08:23:05 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Mar 21 08:26:37 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP Mar 21 08:27:06 kernel: bge0: link state changed to DOWN Mar 21 08:27:09 kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP Mar 21 08:28:11 su: test to root on /dev/ttyp0 ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C9ABCC.33C1D970-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 14:27:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E11106566B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08A8FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so7398975gxk.19 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:27:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wlKH4X0BDjFUs3d6YcKQfCzttwi90JwiaczwGwiUqQQ=; b=SY9KMFNF1rCQW8Qj2g76YXJfUqU+GZU5w3FlYacmPQcyAfnuRgvZ4+xFb58V/m0MUJ AIwNO9XdumQT4CpEVUa5F8P6qe5r784gJcTou5e7P97hVDx4mO41atD67fuDMKCaBQq1 WjjZy1ekCJ833a2i3BrCn+6lnW5UHlYiIRPhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NPNRQogqTqdzX2exqroUxQVfzGDfKgfhmKlXSwLJrhS94dr26e6XMspeU0NNYi2Ig0 0hrDrJeXwQBo5/H0gHgoISd5RB2E0HgVzFf0672Of/NlwpU3ioPhZRuNoRwpfR/bDlVo YyoVv8WC04XsIIcsMlToz+iGFYAlRGluGt3Vo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: msoulier@gmail.com Received: by 10.150.156.20 with SMTP id d20mr12973865ybe.102.1237818476281; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:27:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090321124859.GA27682@anton.digitaltorque.ca> <44wsaj5564.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:27:56 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b1cf7fc97bba7699 Message-ID: From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash suddenly doesn't like $() syntax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:27:57 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Ok, that's what I have. I'm rebuilding it now. And, confirmed. The rebuilt bash is fine now. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... 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Is there any way of preventing this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 18:59:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10E41065723 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593888FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 91354 invoked by uid 89); 23 Mar 2009 18:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 23 Mar 2009 18:59:59 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:59:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:59:40 -0000 I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a utility such as this... What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. Yes, I am obsessive :-) Any help, much appreciated. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:02:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C690F10656D9 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CFE68FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91217 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2009 19:02:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237834947; bh=UQKEiHNPZdnZP0dY3k/BPWpR2GkHhWjoPkzFMRBY+Cw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RxINHApP1u6+nsER3Oo+lzpBfxkaSPzcs6gZiWaXECWVA8+CA7oRQQ3fw8K+nWeYjcwPrES0uv82z2MVfXLBVeq5bkWYwEcchpHXEMR4SVPjYRPIZZat9wSVNT6jhIwNqDu1AsDp7h7Ye7bFSzcUUrySIDf5Fr+/Wc7AJVb1nzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qEXi35lBpco78uZlS7ZdSsHuMkZRoubeh9xIFaZBxEHEPRVq9oIP26/jAbQvXHPA/VXcyDKMpOIdHAGtIJ/rwHOoeacWFyxE/P9kZ5PBD7WfRqHMw9U2lp0QPlXU4ajwSYwGwgUHlVacmpF2UuNyNDRPnO7OfgPsTkQbUyjH0/Q=; Message-ID: <21207.89888.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xrQkZ9oVM1nmer0nLwS_y.KEdThUbXzVffIdtR0mPfXZCcnyLQsU0qdtpaZYym0Btw_QJewZi7Sw_7MkaFn5yk9f62odAYozsZHPHjunht6BFlHJemqa71roF_hWmlhyOj0B_rKnwfg2xDfIckYM.oDabptAZqxfkE9Q8sSSwUgv_Bf.ozYgcJAAtyZXF59zBdwcqY0OQlivlA0WYvU- Received: from [86.101.153.165] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:02:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: John Almberg Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:02:28 -0000 Maybe nmap can help you in this case=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________= _____=0AFrom: John Almberg =0ATo: freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org=0ASent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:59:36 PM=0ASubject: utility tha= t scans lan for client?=0A=0AI've tried googling for this, but I guess I do= n't know the name of a utility such as this...=0A=0AWhat I'm looking for is= a utility that can scan a LAN for attached clients... i.e., computers that= are attached to the LAN.=0A=0AI have one box (an appliance that I have no = access to), that is on the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using.= I'd like to complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my c= hart.=0A=0AYes, I am obsessive :-)=0A=0AAny help, much appreciated.=0A=0A--= John=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr= eebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:03:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9911065766 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8DE8FC25 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2NJ3O9D011129; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:30 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n2NJ3O9D011129 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1237835010; bh=ypCi86CSNXe35PzBGkWM1kNbbqsI+bUeG4RIcResThk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49C7DCF7.3050606@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2023=20Mar=202009=2019:03:19=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090321)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20John=20Almberg=20|CC:=20fre ebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20utility=20that=20scans =20lan=20for=20client?|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=2 0multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D" application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig 41016E050E8B37EBAA150462"; b=zbyBAYqIcRvaN+PWWKWzxMgM1mlMSwZFSGp16gWPKBTL6g4rdDiSlFGTVes/vykL1 mMQCailljs2gqUVxd3GiqSGmIDowArgfNfRjDKry0mmOU1cFQSy8n92eBrMjb5FdIY yWuZXQM0hgS5PZJ1VMk3L8r0nRVpfbgnY8X2FqB4= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49C7DCF7.3050606@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:19 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig41016E050E8B37EBAA150462" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9155/Mon Mar 23 17:26:16 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig41016E050E8B37EBAA150462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Almberg wrote: > I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a=20 > utility such as this... >=20 > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached=20 > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. >=20 > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on the = > LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to complete m= y=20 > network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. >=20 > Yes, I am obsessive :-) >=20 > Any help, much appreciated. nmap Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig41016E050E8B37EBAA150462 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAknH3PwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw+rwCdHr8VyZ6iXl8KUa0rJSpMYyLM F8kAniq/8D5MDiSaSbYDAfD0PGw/FCV0 =wrb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig41016E050E8B37EBAA150462-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:10:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC0E106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8D28FC1D for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707B17E818; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:10:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:10:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: John Almberg Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:23 -0000 On Monday 23 March 2009 19:59:36 John Almberg wrote: > I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a > utility such as this... > > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. > > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on > the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to > complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. security/nmap If the box pings, you can simply scan your LAN like: $ nmap -sP 192.168.2.0/24 Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-23 11:05 AKDT Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (18 hosts up) scanned in 1.11 seconds There's tons of options available (including OS fingerprinting), most of which will require root to run as it needs on-the-fly changes to IP packets. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:17:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D28106566B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1598FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NJInmk076795; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:17:44 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:17:51 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] > >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a > >remote computer (say, 25m apart) and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on > >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in > >my office? > > > cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -" Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it works. "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails to seek backward to the origin. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:19:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30171065675 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511E78FC27 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 3850 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2009 19:19:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 19:19:17 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 8965328429; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:19:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:19:17 -0500 From: David Kelly To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:19:20 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:59:36PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a > utility such as this... > > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. > > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on > the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to > complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. How about something as simple as "arp -a"? This lists the arp cache of machines recently heard by your machine. If you know the IP address of the machine in question and its not in your arp table, ping it. Then the MAC address will appear unless there is a router between here and there. No need to be root. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:20:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B0810657CC for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5F48FC2D for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6637616C01C6; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2NJKRZZ019215; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: John Almberg Message-Id: <20090323202027.3fb8ee9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:20:39 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:59:36 -0400, John Almberg wrote: > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. As it has been suggested, nmap is a good tool. Another simple variation would be: % arp -a And for a more detailed analysis, the successor of Ethereal called Wireshark can be very handy (requires X). It makes you be able to see anything that's going on on the LAN (read: everything that reaches your NIC). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:22:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204A5106584A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6648FC26 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:22:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E4225@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: utility that scans lan for client? Thread-Index: Acmr7FJDlGCzfeWASa2M7vBJAOU9hQAAFPlA References: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "John Almberg" Cc: Subject: RE: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:22:12 -0000 http://www.softperfect.com/products/networkscanner/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David Kelly Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:19 PM To: John Almberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:59:36PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a =20 > utility such as this... >=20 > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached =20 > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. >=20 > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on =20 > the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to =20 > complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. How about something as simple as "arp -a"? This lists the arp cache of machines recently heard by your machine. If you know the IP address of the machine in question and its not in your arp table, ping it. Then the MAC address will appear unless there is a router between here and there. No need to be root. --=20 David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:36:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EAF106566C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0445C8FC19 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 95632 invoked by uid 89); 23 Mar 2009 19:37:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 23 Mar 2009 19:37:15 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0E7EBD3E-69CA-44B1-9DE1-C6383FF81ED0@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:36:52 -0400 To: Mel Flynn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:36:55 -0000 On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 23 March 2009 19:59:36 John Almberg wrote: >> I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a >> utility such as this... >> >> What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached >> clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. >> >> I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on >> the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to >> complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. > > security/nmap > > If the box pings, you can simply scan your LAN like: > $ nmap -sP 192.168.2.0/24 > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-23 11:05 AKDT > > > > Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (18 hosts up) scanned in 1.11 seconds > > There's tons of options available (including OS fingerprinting), > most of which > will require root to run as it needs on-the-fly changes to IP packets. That did it. Beautiful. Thanks. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 19:41:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF00B106566C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B848FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 96290 invoked by uid 89); 23 Mar 2009 19:42:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 23 Mar 2009 19:42:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <192DFF2A-632D-4DA8-9108-919DAE6872EB@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:41:55 -0400 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:41:58 -0000 On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:59:36PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: >> I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a >> utility such as this... >> >> What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached >> clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. >> >> I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on >> the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to >> complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. > > How about something as simple as "arp -a"? This lists the arp cache of > machines recently heard by your machine. If you know the IP address of > the machine in question and its not in your arp table, ping it. > Then the > MAC address will appear unless there is a router between here and > there. > > No need to be root. H'mmm. This is also very interesting. nmap did not find this appliance, as it turns out. But arp -a did found something on 192.168.1.107 (see below) server1 (192.168.1.106) at 0:13:d4:45:45:31 on en1 [ethernet] server2 (192.168.1.107) at (incomplete) on en1 [ethernet] server3 (192.168.1.108) at 0:23:12:f8:5e:fd on en1 [ethernet] I'm guessing this appliance (a Vonage phone adapter) is doing something non-standard. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:00:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68E31065679 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539978FC14 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6527288 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:59:52 +0100 Message-ID: <49C7BFF7.9030101@kukulies.org> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: libxml-2-7-3 (php5 pkg_add) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:00:19 -0000 I wanted to do a pkg_add -r php5 under 7.1 Beta1 and got a warning: pkg_add: warning: package 'php5-5.2.8' requires 'libxml2-2.7.3', but 'libxml2-2.6.32' is installed Should I care and if, how do I "repair" this? -- Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:04:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670C01065673 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B40B8FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so1612639waf.27 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=yNRhlmtuETV3pAY7YdHUE8ifj616v2S20mWnn/LhgMU=; b=VAlatE8A/J3ZolWSd0o/j1ZevXOgvu/OAEi9FuxFHsT6h8BNllveFFxFpcFNlGDcXV 6VOQCpZ0B2k6FNxrwwzH77Dt2qU2Xr1MPKdNgG0dMfSAWqa8b2PkDEIn+HF50mbUB6gf D0r0t1xxhLcHDh4uan8lMa1Ag3OVdBpNqOqms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BvnVcgZxaXBIzFmdyr+h72IjO6dbej05fZCoiGnOwDkTX57wXlI6aOYov3fo/XGHkz gkH61Opi4WB/Cb15AVoTFAUjkbMByCeXeVxdGRYrg23+vRAOcDLRG/wg5N9e8u5jyC/X sXqWRjvCQkZpTp8t8gVPqLqUkq/IU8akodXOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.73.20 with SMTP id a20mr5039479wal.1.1237838695680; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:04:56 -0000 Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems. Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate. So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I began installing them one-by-one: 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port 2) make && make install && make clean I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . . . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg -configure), tried it (Xorg -config xorg.conf.new). X started, but no mouse activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared up: "20090124: 241 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal 242 AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org 243 244 sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect 245 mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer 246 be needed for most users and moused should now work fine." But, as I say, I have no mouse under X. So, I try adding: Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in my xorg.conf and "Hey! We gotta mouse!" I just rebooted and the mouse still works in X, but just before rebooting I disabled moused (in rc.conf -> moused_enable="NO"). So, adding the above line to xorg.conf helped with/without moused. Note that prior to this whole portupgrade deal I was running 7.1-RELEASE without an xorg.conf, put with an older xorg. At this point, I'm not upset b/c everything seems to be working fine. Just curious what might be going on. Thanks for you time. Below is my dmesg. 1 Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. 2 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 3 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. 4 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. 5 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 10 19:07:15 CST 2009 6 nph@frege.lambdaserver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 7 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 8 CPU: mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2400+ (1788.94-MHz 686-class CPU) 9 Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 10 Features=0x383f9ff 11 AMD Features=0xc0480800 12 real memory = 468647936 (446 MB) 13 avail memory = 444530688 (423 MB) 14 kbd1 at kbdmux0 15 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) 16 acpi0: on motherboard 17 acpi0: [ITHREAD] 18 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) 19 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 20 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 21 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 22 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 23 pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 10 for 0.10.INTA is invalid 24 pci0: on pcib0 25 agp0: on hostb0 26 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 27 pci1: on pcib1 28 vgapci0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xe0000000-0xefffff ff,0xd0100000-0xd010ffff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1 29 ohci0: mem 0xd0006000-0xd0006fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 30 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 31 ohci0: [ITHREAD] 32 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support 33 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting 34 usb0: on ohci0 35 usb0: USB revision 1.0 36 uhub0: on usb0 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 39 pcm0: 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 43 isa0: on isab0 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] 50 fwohci0: mem 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 58 fwe0: on firewire0 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 61 fwip0: on firewire0 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, max rec 2048 63 sbp0: on firewire0 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset 67 fwohci0: BUS reset 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode 69 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 39 pcm0: 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 43 isa0: on isab0 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] 50 fwohci0: mem 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 58 fwe0: on firewire0 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 61 fwip0: on firewire0 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, max rec 2048 63 sbp0: on firewire0 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset 67 fwohci0: BUS reset 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode 69 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 39 pcm0: 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 43 isa0: on isab0 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] 50 fwohci0: mem 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 58 fwe0: on firewire0 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a 61 fwip0: on firewire0 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, max rec 2048 63 sbp0: on firewire0 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset 67 fwohci0: BUS reset 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode 69 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 70 atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA access bug, expect reduced performance 71 ata0: on atapci0 72 ata0: [ITHREAD] 73 ata1: on atapci0 74 ata1: [ITHREAD] 75 pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) 76 sis0: port 0x8c00-0x8cff mem 0xd000a000-0x d000afff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 77 sis0: Silicon Revision: DP83816A 78 miibus0: on sis0 79 nsphyter0: PHY 0 on miibus0 80 nsphyter0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto 81 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:9d:43:2b:a7 82 sis0: [ITHREAD] 83 acpi_button0: on acpi0 84 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 85 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 86 battery0: on acpi0 87 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 88 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 89 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 90 kbd0 at atkbd0 91 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 92 atkbd0: [ITHREAD] 93 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 94 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 95 psm0: [ITHREAD] 96 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 97 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 98 fdc0: [FILTER] 99 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi 0 100 sio0: type 16550A 101 sio0: [FILTER] 102 cpu0: on acpi0 103 powernow0: on cpu0 104 pmtimer0 on isa0 105 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xcf000-0xcf7ff,0xdb000-0xd bfff,0xdc000-0xdffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 106 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 107 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode 108 ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold 109 ppbus0: on ppc0 110 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] 111 ppi0: on ppbus0 112 plip0: on ppbus0 113 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag 114 lpt0: on ppbus0 115 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port 116 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 117 ppc0: [ITHREAD] 118 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 119 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> 120 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 121 sio1: port may not be enabled 122 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 123 ums0: on uhub0 124 ums0: 16 buttons and Z dir. 125 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1788940443 Hz quality 800 126 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec 127 firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) 128 firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) 129 ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master UDMA100 130 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 131 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:25:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B811065670 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2E8FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Llqhi-0005OS-B4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:02 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:02 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: John Almberg User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:04 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:59:36 -0400, John Almberg wrote: JA> I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a JA> utility such as this... JA> JA> What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached JA> clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. ports/net/arping mat be useful for this -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:30:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEEA106574E for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02118FC1A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE39B3CF08; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:30:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2NKTrV7019397; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:29:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:29:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <20090323212953.715aaa44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49C7BFF7.9030101@kukulies.org> References: <49C7BFF7.9030101@kukulies.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libxml-2-7-3 (php5 pkg_add) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:19 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I wanted to do a > > pkg_add -r php5 > > under 7.1 Beta1 and got a warning: > > pkg_add: warning: package 'php5-5.2.8' requires 'libxml2-2.7.3', but > 'libxml2-2.6.32' is installed > > > Should I care [...] Run your PHP and see if it refuses to work, or if you encounter any problems while running. 2.6.32 and 2.7.3 may be a version gap that leads to nonfunctionality. > [...] and if, how do I "repair" this? You could update your libxms2 port to get it to a newer version. If you're using portupgrade (portinstall), use # pkgdb -aF to fix package dependencies. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:32:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D086106567B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B967B8FC25 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 31431 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2009 20:32:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 20:32:08 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 7CADB28429; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:32:08 -0500 From: David Kelly To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090323203208.GA46734@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090323191917.GA46373@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <192DFF2A-632D-4DA8-9108-919DAE6872EB@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <192DFF2A-632D-4DA8-9108-919DAE6872EB@identry.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:32:10 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 03:41:55PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, David Kelly wrote: > > >How about something as simple as "arp -a"? This lists the arp cache > >of machines recently heard by your machine. If you know the IP > >address of the machine in question and its not in your arp table, > >ping it. Then the MAC address will appear unless there is a router > >between here and there. > > H'mmm. This is also very interesting. > > nmap did not find this appliance, as it turns out. But arp -a did > found something on 192.168.1.107 (see below) > > server1 (192.168.1.106) at 0:13:d4:45:45:31 on en1 [ethernet] > server2 (192.168.1.107) at (incomplete) on en1 [ethernet] > server3 (192.168.1.108) at 0:23:12:f8:5e:fd on en1 [ethernet] > > I'm guessing this appliance (a Vonage phone adapter) is doing > something non-standard. No, its just ignoring pings. An incomplete entry in the ARP table says your machine tried to look up that address, creating an entry, but as of the moment the table was read the reply had not yet come back. Whatever router you are using is sure to have the Vonnage appliance in its ARP table. "Smart" network switches prevent your FreeBSD host from eavesdropping on the ARP packet exchange between Vonnage and router. Otherwise it would be in the arp table if the Vonnage has spoken recently to the router. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:49:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D15106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBFA8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1867171fxm.43 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :user-agent; bh=DX4bTPUnqvDhH9xaqepBmmEEKMCmy3V766lm4GAlTTc=; b=bOesLEMEt8CjGeQV8BH+EwoQXQ43/L4VLiPrcX7ltLTSx//+XL3hExnImsKcCep9Wr 1nc1w95y10hddii20uYK1iRmypW1jbqpeH7/ujfZXIXybK1Ei3X/+5NFsaX/UTWLJqik gxhj9AZqSwI3ByfFrYHAAsdhCITYrK/77JguI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:user-agent; b=GxP5oxg3MabUZGz6FOO92vKXtCy+3rVJ2us7UoEKEfv3wZAA1ZboQuKnr8D/fF+PiZ lFcxTx5Ck60510JdyIGcLmzaVELleGh6BcwRlyqYM3PVzV6szt2sza+3aoGz4Re/IMKh ufErdciZK6IwAK2z/x7RF2VokYrv8TOcJr9ao= Received: by 10.103.175.8 with SMTP id c8mr3264931mup.117.1237841353161; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm10837490muq.35.2009.03.23.13.49.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:47:12 +0200 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Subject: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:49:15 -0000 Hello, This is probably not the best place for this type of question, but here goes anyway: "Senior Network & Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents" Now, that level thinghy I was unable to find on the web what exactly it means. I mean is level 4 the worst or the easyest ? Or maybe that easy/worst terminology isn't quite the best used. Gimme a hint pls. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:50:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897C01065677 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0223D8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2NKoR2k051938; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90114BA97; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:50:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:50:27 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:50:36 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:17:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] > > >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a > > >remote computer (say, 25m apart) and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on > > >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in > > >my office? > >=20 > >=20 > > cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -" >=20 > Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it > works. "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails > to seek backward to the origin. =20 Have you looked at audio/xmms2? It uses a client/server model but is audio only. [http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page] Other possibilities is a UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) server and clients. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPnP_AV_MediaServers] Some modern stereo equipment (e.g. Philips Streamium) has ethernet/WiFi capability and can play material from a UPnP media server. So you could have your music/video library on a server, with your stereo playing music from that library over a wireless link. Cool eh? I'm not sure if these things fall in the "simple" category, though. :-) Especially if there's wifi involved as well. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknH9hMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXVKQCfaJQsD7/AXyVS/KxFH8i3LWPd mAgAn3zxYuNfNPJ4dmTMDt0fF+CbdO0R =54d3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:51:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC3810656CF for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F395B8FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so954963fka.11 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:51:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RDjf4OjStRMHsaS08mWoUPxBE9ba3xykEnCn8m78Oyo=; b=FG6qgHT4t942FfU8r1YMa5iULl1pX7uRLr4iFEIVjMeCzemi+QEzGkUcWrRqKWRxwD vN0l2t+PgvFWEZQebo4rkQhoDDTKSyDjTqv1Ox+W7uAqtaGlLCAjLplyeZdz+p1mB19/ ecRrp88z7EKn9I7/c49a4pJsEZbMleJ4vKlmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h99CaW6wsq+FUSqe9c8lxyh45OIqFl9JopVNa3/7sIKDSb9hfoMkd6EuTJj0WvjFQ3 svBQNxltDRaNCr7jnP9f9/P1gbWxme+TVa+BlUui5XR4dhnoU3oo5uOBF5xzUaHdvrRJ Xen/z4vjnm6g8Hw7CbZYzeRPcZH/ErRaEUkqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.241.5 with SMTP id t5mr3261994mur.127.1237841489892; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:51:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903231351yae54857k37f7c7b842d37b1f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:32 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > "Senior Network & Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents" Typically, "Level 1" would be a Help Desk / Backup Operator type position. Level 3/4 would be actual administration. 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(host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm9551366gvf.19.2009.03.23.13.51.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C7F66A.7040509@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:51:54 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:57 -0000 Neal Hogan wrote: > Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story > (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that > some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time > to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention > that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems. > Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all > of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it > did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate. > > So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I > began installing them one-by-one: > > 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port > 2) make && make install && make clean > > I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . . > . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg > -configure), tried it (Xorg -config xorg.conf.new). X started, but no mouse > activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in > rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at > the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared > up: > > "20090124: > 241 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal > 242 AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org > 243 > 244 sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect > 245 mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer > 246 be needed for most users and moused should now work fine." > > But, as I say, I have no mouse under X. So, I try adding: > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > > in my xorg.conf and "Hey! We gotta mouse!" > > I just rebooted and the mouse still works in X, but just before rebooting I > disabled moused (in rc.conf -> moused_enable="NO"). So, adding the above > line to xorg.conf helped with/without moused. Note that prior to this whole > portupgrade deal I was running 7.1-RELEASE without an xorg.conf, put with an > older xorg. > > At this point, I'm not upset b/c everything seems to be working fine. Just > curious what might be going on. Thanks for you time. Below is my dmesg. > > 1 Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. > 2 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > 3 The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > 4 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > 5 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 10 19:07:15 CST 2009 > 6 nph@frege.lambdaserver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > 7 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > 8 CPU: mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2400+ (1788.94-MHz 686-class CPU) > 9 Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 > 10 > Features=0x383f9ff V,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE> > 11 AMD Features=0xc0480800 > 12 real memory = 468647936 (446 MB) > 13 avail memory = 444530688 (423 MB) > 14 kbd1 at kbdmux0 > 15 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, > RF5413) > 16 acpi0: on motherboard > 17 acpi0: [ITHREAD] > 18 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > 19 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > 20 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 > 21 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 > 22 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > 23 pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 10 for 0.10.INTA is invalid > 24 pci0: on pcib0 > 25 agp0: on hostb0 > 26 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > 27 pci1: on pcib1 > 28 vgapci0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem > 0xe0000000-0xefffff ff,0xd0100000-0xd010ffff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1 > 29 ohci0: mem > 0xd0006000-0xd0006fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 > 30 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 31 ohci0: [ITHREAD] > 32 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > 33 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting > 34 usb0: on ohci0 > 35 usb0: USB revision 1.0 > 36 uhub0: on > usb0 > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > 39 pcm0: > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > 43 isa0: on isab0 > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > pci0 > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > 50 fwohci0: mem > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > pci0 > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > max rec 2048 > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > 69 atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > 39 pcm0: > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > 43 isa0: on isab0 > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > pci0 > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > 50 fwohci0: mem > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > pci0 > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > max rec 2048 > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > 69 atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > 39 pcm0: > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > 43 isa0: on isab0 > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > pci0 > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > 50 fwohci0: mem > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > pci0 > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > max rec 2048 > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > 69 atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > 70 atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA > access bug, expect reduced performance > 71 ata0: on atapci0 > 72 ata0: [ITHREAD] > 73 ata1: on atapci0 > 74 ata1: [ITHREAD] > 75 pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) > 76 sis0: port 0x8c00-0x8cff mem > 0xd000a000-0x d000afff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 > 77 sis0: Silicon Revision: DP83816A > 78 miibus0: on sis0 > 79 nsphyter0: PHY 0 on miibus0 > 80 nsphyter0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > 81 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:9d:43:2b:a7 > 82 sis0: [ITHREAD] > 83 acpi_button0: on acpi0 > 84 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 > 85 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 > 86 battery0: on acpi0 > 87 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > 88 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > 89 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > 90 kbd0 at atkbd0 > 91 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 92 atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > 93 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > 94 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 95 psm0: [ITHREAD] > 96 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 > 97 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on > acpi0 > 98 fdc0: [FILTER] > 99 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi 0 > 100 sio0: type 16550A > 101 sio0: [FILTER] > 102 cpu0: on acpi0 > 103 powernow0: on cpu0 > 104 pmtimer0 on isa0 > 105 orm0: at iomem > 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xcf000-0xcf7ff,0xdb000-0xd bfff,0xdc000-0xdffff pnpid > ORM0000 on isa0 > 106 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > 107 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > 108 ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold > 109 ppbus0: on ppc0 > 110 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] > 111 ppi0: on ppbus0 > 112 plip0: on ppbus0 > 113 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag > 114 lpt0: on ppbus0 > 115 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > 116 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > 117 ppc0: [ITHREAD] > 118 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > 119 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > 120 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > 121 sio1: port may not be enabled > 122 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on > isa0 > 123 ums0: on > uhub0 > 124 ums0: 16 buttons and Z dir. > 125 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1788940443 Hz quality 800 > 126 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > 127 firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) > 128 firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) > 129 ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master UDMA100 > 130 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 > 131 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > I don't have time to go over in detail what you posted, but one thing that springs to mind is the newer xorg integrates more with dbus and hald by default. If that's not working I would make sure dbus and hald are installed with current releases, enabled in /etc/rc.conf and then reboot and ensure both are running prior to trying to start X again. . -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:52:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B952410657CD for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B628FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1378958yxm.13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:52:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ffeJ2h99WSQwY9c8l2sSYuzT7meJI9jhGtXUTp/vW3I=; b=amWqviz35uCmJn4CPJAAESxS5sXnqh4nd8aUJcMGAznSMiHO50jmaOmZJ8w+y+GOhV WycIxeifttE/nzghvsQhvCurpxo/AbK+OfKrBiOcGQ32kegstJaLPcdDtD7dk3GcskK6 /xRKCZ3e+a5Uwm2wSWocokJ3oQ/7Xs0kdfd3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R8e72toe6ntWHWwWXxhuEKMklTPXNllZHanfdYmibq1Hpg7pUv2C6m5y2iAJf4+Fhn Pz2rP93gX2HwlDTSW70ah0aADeG84dJ/myPNfltstnftmdqiSf+bvnpNv1c0B3h15OPO ilUVlTWjc6gufmaOGaHryK663BdapJ0oKE6WU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.108.2 with SMTP id g2mr3016317wfc.259.1237841530129; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:52:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:52:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:52:13 -0000 At a guess, it's a SAGE designation. Try perusing http://www.sage.org Kurt On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 13:47, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > > Hello, > > This is probably not the best place for this type of question, but here goes > anyway: > > "Senior Network & Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents" > > Now, that level thinghy I was unable to find on the web what exactly it > means. I mean is level 4 the worst or the easyest ? Or maybe that easy/worst > terminology isn't quite the best used. > > > Gimme a hint pls. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 20:55:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426A31065908 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25238FC26 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1869457fxm.43 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=sMLSnMXBDWoxyK2WHLrTDFj5zBU2U7IJqi1LOHajGrI=; b=uabgyqmGdUAFTrxDER2Jikeh8BYXcpqA1kZyXV0DzIRSWaGQd1rmcyIePwbgPxL7aQ WwQjrvNLzGcjRAc2iKRnAixS3oXn2INHeQ+++rmpj0ak6ei5OUBwHhfNoN5MTZQcrJP/ bljbK2frwK/sGdsTeglaThYe5fH9QkAAWlnLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=cx03r+pQdiZRw5OmHDEdHyDd5/K1isFkgo6Lai4OJgjLady8q/DrvVY/J3LVsWbNgv xzkdIst7HYYjdDUqcIwjSDiTrmKmPmBCbOUjukRi8+luI3PqDrzPOnpQXxztsjZKFMC1 n0x/Hhi4EK/WxvEoNS/gHKGda1YSn6sRXtU1M= Received: by 10.102.228.10 with SMTP id a10mr3279120muh.26.1237841712839; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm10733062mum.37.2009.03.23.13.55.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:53:12 +0200 To: "Glen Barber" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4ad871310903231351yae54857k37f7c7b842d37b1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903231351yae54857k37f7c7b842d37b1f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:55:14 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:51:29 +0200, Glen Barber wrote: Level 3/4 would be actual administration. (The fun stuff. > :) ) Then let's give it a go. cv on the way then. I mean, we cannot live just with aer/watter, we need some fun now don't we lads ? :P thx for the hints. Best regards, Claudius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 21:11:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27107106576A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC6E8FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tO4+qdM4NyVDNEqADSRLwRsTNqrhXwt1zZJo9f9VQVRcewyZyRY8Sv4a/EJDUXfS; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.77.101.6] (helo=[10.11.11.64]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LlrQC-0006bL-LI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: <49C7FAE3.3050500@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:10:59 -0700 From: Arthur Barlow User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 0bd0885458bbffc5a6d650fed495db8b4d2b10475b571120443ceb8b7aedd82f287054d6bf0a9854f3955f778df1f3fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.77.101.6 Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:11:05 -0000 Message: 25 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:51:54 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <49C7F66A.7040509@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Neal Hogan wrote: > > Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story > > (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that > > some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time > > to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention > > that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems. > > Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all > > of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it > > did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate. > > > > So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I > > began installing them one-by-one: > > > > 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port > > 2) make && make install && make clean > > > > I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . . > > . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg > > -configure), tried it (Xorg -config xorg.conf.new). X started, but no mouse > > activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in > > rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at > > the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared > > up: > > > > "20090124: > > 241 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal > > 242 AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org > > 243 > > 244 sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect > > 245 mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer > > 246 be needed for most users and moused should now work fine." > > > > But, as I say, I have no mouse under X. So, I try adding: > > > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > > > > in my xorg.conf and "Hey! We gotta mouse!" > > > > I just rebooted and the mouse still works in X, but just before rebooting I > > disabled moused (in rc.conf -> moused_enable="NO"). So, adding the above > > line to xorg.conf helped with/without moused. Note that prior to this whole > > portupgrade deal I was running 7.1-RELEASE without an xorg.conf, put with an > > older xorg. > > > > At this point, I'm not upset b/c everything seems to be working fine. Just > > curious what might be going on. Thanks for you time. Below is my dmesg. > > > > 1 Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. > > 2 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > > 3 The Regents of the University of California. All rights > > reserved. > > 4 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > > 5 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 10 19:07:15 CST 2009 > > 6 nph@frege.lambdaserver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > 7 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > > 8 CPU: mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2400+ (1788.94-MHz 686-class CPU) > > 9 Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 > > 10 > > Features=0x383f9ff > V,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE> > > 11 AMD Features=0xc0480800 > > 12 real memory = 468647936 (446 MB) > > 13 avail memory = 444530688 (423 MB) > > 14 kbd1 at kbdmux0 > > 15 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, > > RF5413) > > 16 acpi0: on motherboard > > 17 acpi0: [ITHREAD] > > 18 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > 19 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > > 20 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 > > 21 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 > > 22 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > > 23 pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 10 for 0.10.INTA is invalid > > 24 pci0: on pcib0 > > 25 agp0: on hostb0 > > 26 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > > 27 pci1: on pcib1 > > 28 vgapci0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem > > 0xe0000000-0xefffff ff,0xd0100000-0xd010ffff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1 > > 29 ohci0: mem > > 0xd0006000-0xd0006fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 > > 30 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 31 ohci0: [ITHREAD] > > 32 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > > 33 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting > > 34 usb0: on ohci0 > > 35 usb0: USB revision 1.0 > > 36 uhub0: on > > usb0 > > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > > 39 pcm0: > > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > > 43 isa0: on isab0 > > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > > pci0 > > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > > 50 fwohci0: mem > > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > > pci0 > > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > > max rec 2048 > > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > > 69 atapci0: port > > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > > 39 pcm0: > > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > > 43 isa0: on isab0 > > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > > pci0 > > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > > 50 fwohci0: mem > > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > > pci0 > > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > > max rec 2048 > > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > > 69 atapci0: port > > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > > 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > 38 pcm0: port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq > > 5 a t device 6.0 on pci0 > > 39 pcm0: > > 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] > > 42 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > > 43 isa0: on isab0 > > 44 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) > > 45 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) > > 46 cbb0: irq 11 at device 10.0 on > > pci0 > > 47 cardbus0: on cbb0 > > 48 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > > 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] > > 50 fwohci0: mem > > 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0 xd0000000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on > > pci0 > > 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] > > 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) > > 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. > > 54 fwohci0: EUI64 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a > > 55 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. > > 56 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > > 57 firewire0: on fwohci0 > > 58 fwe0: on firewire0 > > 59 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 60 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:0d:9d:43:0c:6a > > 61 fwip0: on firewire0 > > 62 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:0d:9d:71:9e:43:0c:6a @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, > > max rec 2048 > > 63 sbp0: on firewire0 > > 64 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 > > 65 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12bc000 > > 66 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > > 67 fwohci0: BUS reset > > 68 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > > 69 atapci0: port > > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x 177,0x376,0x8080-0x808f at device 16.0 on pci0 > > 70 atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA > > access bug, expect reduced performance > > 71 ata0: on atapci0 > > 72 ata0: [ITHREAD] > > 73 ata1: on atapci0 > > 74 ata1: [ITHREAD] > > 75 pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) > > 76 sis0: port 0x8c00-0x8cff mem > > 0xd000a000-0x d000afff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 > > 77 sis0: Silicon Revision: DP83816A > > 78 miibus0: on sis0 > > 79 nsphyter0: PHY 0 on miibus0 > > 80 nsphyter0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > > 81 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:9d:43:2b:a7 > > 82 sis0: [ITHREAD] > > 83 acpi_button0: on acpi0 > > 84 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 > > 85 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 > > 86 battery0: on acpi0 > > 87 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > > 88 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > > 89 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > > 90 kbd0 at atkbd0 > > 91 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 92 atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > > 93 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > > 94 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 95 psm0: [ITHREAD] > > 96 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 > > 97 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on > > acpi0 > > 98 fdc0: [FILTER] > > 99 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > > acpi 0 > > 100 sio0: type 16550A > > 101 sio0: [FILTER] > > 102 cpu0: on acpi0 > > 103 powernow0: on cpu0 > > 104 pmtimer0 on isa0 > > 105 orm0: at iomem > > 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xcf000-0xcf7ff,0xdb000-0xd bfff,0xdc000-0xdffff pnpid > > ORM0000 on isa0 > > 106 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > > 107 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > > 108 ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold > > 109 ppbus0: on ppc0 > > 110 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] > > 111 ppi0: on ppbus0 > > 112 plip0: on ppbus0 > > 113 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag > > 114 lpt0: on ppbus0 > > 115 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > > 116 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 117 ppc0: [ITHREAD] > > 118 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > > 119 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > > 120 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > > 121 sio1: port may not be enabled > > 122 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on > > isa0 > > 123 ums0: on > > uhub0 > > 124 ums0: 16 buttons and Z dir. > > 125 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1788940443 Hz quality 800 > > 126 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > > 127 firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) > > 128 firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) > > 129 ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master UDMA100 > > 130 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 > > 131 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > I don't have time to go over in detail what you posted, but one thing that springs to mind is the newer xorg integrates more with dbus and hald by default. If that's not working I would make sure dbus and hald are installed with current releases, enabled in /etc/rc.conf and then reboot and ensure both are running prior to trying to start X again. . -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 This appears to be the "AllowEmptyInput" issue that has also caused me problems recently. If you put the following: Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in the ServerLayout section, it usually fixes the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 21:54:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B5A106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834618FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NLtAhU078132; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:54:15 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:50:27PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:17:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] > > > >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a > > > >remote computer (say, 25m apart) and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on > > > >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in > > > >my office? > > > > > > > > > cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -" > > > > Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it > > works. "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails > > to seek backward to the origin. > > Have you looked at audio/xmms2? It uses a client/server model but is > audio only. [http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page] > > Other possibilities is a UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) server and > clients. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPnP_AV_MediaServers] > > Some modern stereo equipment (e.g. Philips Streamium) has ethernet/WiFi > capability and can play material from a UPnP media server. So you could > have your music/video library on a server, with your stereo playing > music from that library over a wireless link. Cool eh? > > I'm not sure if these things fall in the "simple" category, though. :-) > Especially if there's wifi involved as well. Wow. No wifi yet; still have a maze of cables. My stereo stuff in from the last century:-) but it's nice to know that the newer equipment has ethernet capabilities. Be great to have some utimate setup (*sigh...*). For now, what Wojciech suggested works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123 may not be sufficient. ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction! T.Y. gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 21:58:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F963106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8C28FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2NLw7db016114; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2NLw6ZU016111; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:58:20 -0000 > anyway: > > "Senior Network & Unix/Linux Administrator Lever 3/4 incidents" > > Now, that level thinghy I was unable to find on the web what exactly it > means. I mean is level 4 the worst or the easyest ? Or maybe that easy/worst > terminology isn't quite the best used. probably you should ask who wrote this ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 22:02:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D787106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB08FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E953CFAA; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:01:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2NM1gAN020217; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:01:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:01:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090323230142.3ec088b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Mailing List , Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:13 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Be great to have some > utimate setup (*sigh...*). You'll never have. At the moment you've setup something, just after bringing it home from the shop, it will be considered outdated, and there's already something new on the way that's completely incompatible with everything you have. :-) > For now, what Wojciech suggested > works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123 > may not be sufficient. How about ogg123 then? Same use. % cat oggfiles | rsh -l username remote.computer.name "ogg123 -" > ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction! Check /usr/ports/audio/xmms2, found out by % cd /usr/ports % make search name=xmms2 -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 22:02:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C4E1065672 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D7A8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1894047fxm.43 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=FBRRoDaJjORJJDtVs2kpYSodM+uRpXExIkQ2CZOjBJA=; b=eioU7htcPtYgRiXH2CechfytOiu59ULbBVMpGDHJcdGSI2Jp0EirxYSD0lDjiEMBbD 5KcT79YLwu954PkrPwPXtsZR4UaiZ5MEZcobjvYK+qwCXoef6pVWzGjSEtQT1bOpu7+H ILxSf89q9x4Knj/ZsOX2PCRs5nKnE6WsiV6Ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=owpeMBLVr2uGcTIAGVlfSYi11Jrx4gUEL3Zvskle4AMGi2FDU6++svC0XLVaZv0lJJ uKnGK0h6r/ElTlb4qnfT4WtmKBSJ2UdDFT1c40AENXOMUQhBMR3m85JTdVa5jKrhKA6U l7XHoRMH7PHMq3ilZxSVciHjxmUnJJx8ulyQc= Received: by 10.103.247.14 with SMTP id z14mr3303358mur.70.1237845776719; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm10804911mue.46.2009.03.23.15.02.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:00:56 +0200 To: "Wojciech Puchar" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:58 -0000 > probably you should ask who wrote this ;) lol, will do that if I can get to an interview :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 22:18:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C35A106566C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E158FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D216C0042; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:18:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2NMIEqZ020275; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:18:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:18:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Message-Id: <20090323231813.352e5421.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unix admin incident levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:18:25 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:00:56 +0200, "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" wrote: > lol, will do that if I can get to an interview :) Prepare for other important questions, like "If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?" or even Him: "Describe yourself in two words." Me: "Innovative and Creative." Him: "Can you explain what you mean by that?" Me: "But you said two words..." >From SA's "Dumb Interview Questions", page 3, via http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/dumb-interview-questions.php :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 23:29:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698F2106564A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0465E8FC1C for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NNUeQs078831; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090323232936.GB16759@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> <20090323230142.3ec088b2.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090323230142.3ec088b2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Mailing List , Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:29:45 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01:42PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Be great to have some > > utimate setup (*sigh...*). > > You'll never have. At the moment you've setup something, just > after bringing it home from the shop, it will be considered > outdated, and there's already something new on the way that's > completely incompatible with everything you have. :-) > > > > > For now, what Wojciech suggested > > works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123 > > may not be sufficient. > > How about ogg123 then? Same use. > > % cat oggfiles | rsh -l username remote.computer.name "ogg123 -" > > > > > ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction! > > Check /usr/ports/audio/xmms2, found out by > > % cd /usr/ports > % make search name=xmms2 I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a wav123, an au123, &c? :_) wait, I just checked and there *is* a flac123. .... i'll be [bleeped]. ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing with it, I never used it. I've got gxmms2 working on my linux desktopk, but it only works locally. How do I use [gx]mms2 to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the playlist here and play thru my better speakers? I had imagined something like: % xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ where the -r would indicate "remote" ... > > > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 23:41:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58914106567A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124C78FC1A for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674963D0A2; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:41:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2NNfeuG021695; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:41:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:41:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090324004140.dc39e85f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090323232936.GB16759@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> <20090323230142.3ec088b2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090323232936.GB16759@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Mailing List , Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:41:58 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a > wav123, an au123, &c? :_) wait, I just checked and there *is* a > flac123. .... i'll be [bleeped]. :-) > ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no > front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing > with it, I never used it. I've got gxmms2 working on my linux > desktopk, but it only works locally. How do I use [gx]mms2 > to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the > playlist here and play thru my better speakers? > > I had imagined something like: > > % xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ > > where the -r would indicate "remote" ... Re xmms2 Miniprod malquoted operations. :-) Because I haven't installed xmms2 on my system, I'm not 100 percent sure, but according to http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page it seems that you have to run xmms2 on the box that holds your files (server) and control the program's operations via the computer with the better speakers (client) by means of an xmms2 client application. http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Using_the_application A daemonic concept. =^_^= -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 23 23:50:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F73106566B for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0088FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2NNoJmT014750; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:50:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2NNoJU6014747; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:50:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:50:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Neal Hogan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:50:21 -0000 On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Neal Hogan wrote: > Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story > (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that > some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time > to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention > that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems. > Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all > of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it > did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate. > > So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I > began installing them one-by-one: > > 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port > 2) make && make install && make clean > > I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . . > . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg > -configure), tried it (Xorg -config xorg.conf.new). X started, but no mouse > activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in > rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at > the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared > up: > > "20090124: > 241 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal > 242 AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org > 243 > 244 sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect > 245 mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer > 246 be needed for most users and moused should now work fine." > > But, as I say, I have no mouse under X. Adding hal alone is not enough, you have to enable it both when you build xorg-server and in /etc/rc.conf. I use moused also, and have no AllowEmptyInput or AutoAddDevices or mouse or keyboard sections in xorg.conf. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 01:12:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E80B106564A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0348FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2O1DEWl079563; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:12:10 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090324011209.GC16759@thought.org> References: <20090322233056.GA41297@thought.org> <20090323191744.GA5405@thought.org> <20090323205027.GA41513@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090323215405.GA10111@thought.org> <20090323230142.3ec088b2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090323232936.GB16759@thought.org> <20090324004140.dc39e85f.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090324004140.dc39e85f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Mailing List , Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: networked audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:12:19 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:41:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a > > wav123, an au123, &c? :_) wait, I just checked and there *is* a > > flac123. .... i'll be [bleeped]. > > :-) > > > > ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no > > front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing > > with it, I never used it. I've got gxmms2 working on my linux > > desktopk, but it only works locally. How do I use [gx]mms2 > > to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the > > playlist here and play thru my better speakers? > > > > I had imagined something like: > > > > % xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ > > > > where the -r would indicate "remote" ... > > Re xmms2 Miniprod malquoted operations. :-) > > Because I haven't installed xmms2 on my system, I'm not 100 percent > sure, but according to http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page > it seems that you have to run xmms2 on the box that holds your files > (server) and control the program's operations via the computer with > the better speakers (client) by means of an xmms2 client application. > > http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Using_the_application > > A daemonic concept. =^_^= > nEat that these guys have a wiki page! it just makes learning hte fine-grain details so much easier. I was just out downing a couple cups of coffee and did install the *xmms2* stuff on my to-be music server. I come back, read your mail, and now am browsing the xmms2 wiki pages. It'll take a couple hours to get the configuration done, but then, hey, i'm home free and clear:_) thankee, gary > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 02:35:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942D7106566C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFA78FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2O2Z8V5015220 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:35:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2O2Z80f015217 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:35:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:35:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:35:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: Atom 330 testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:35:10 -0000 Testing a mini-ITX Intel D945GCLF2 motherboard with Atom 330 processor. The 330 is the dual-core HTT version of the Atom 270 found in all the netbooks. Shows up as four processors on FreeBSD. The board has SATA, IDE, PCI, onboard video, and Realtek 8111C Ethernet. This board was shaky until I updated the BIOS from version 99 to version 150. Yay Intel for providing a bootable ISO ROM update image! It still has two major issues: 1. Get to the FreeBSD loader prompt and type a few commands. Just ? once or twice, for example. It locks up in the middle of output or the screen goes black. A hardware reset works. 2. It shuts itself off while the kernel is starting, usually just after "Starting network". Disabling the onboard Realtek 8111C seems to fix this. Note that it does sometimes manage to boot with re0 enabled. Works fine after that, including network. An xubuntu 8.10 liveCD also shuts off during boot. I haven't tried other OSes. After it has turned itself off, keyboard numlock LED remains on, power and reset buttons do nothing. AC power has to be turned off or disconnected to clear it and let it start up again. Right now it has -current, although the problems seem the same as with 7-stable. I can try debugging or tests if problem #1 permits. This board would make a very nice low-power server if it could boot reliably. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 02:41:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CC1106566B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 624BB8FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 55174 invoked by uid 89); 24 Mar 2009 02:47:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 24 Mar 2009 02:47:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49C8486C.7020300@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:41:48 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:41:49 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > I've tried googling for this, but I guess I don't know the name of a > utility such as this... > > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. > > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on the > LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to complete my > network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. > > Yes, I am obsessive :-) ...and it is ok to be such. I suspect that you don't have a switch that can port 'mirror' or 'span'. If you do, let us know. Otherwise, if you *really* want to find out what is on your switched Ethernet network, and nmap/arp etc. isn't enough, then I'd recommend an application called 'ettercap'. It runs on the CLI, and a colleague also has a nice GUI for it (under Linux) as well. This will allow you to infiltrate the network at Layer-2 by arp poisoning all connected devices, and intercepting all traffic. Essentially, you perform a MitM, and you become the host (or in a small environment the default gw) that the device is trying to talk to. This way, you can find out not only what the host is, but what it is saying. Please understand that this approach has significant side effects. You can do extensive harm to your local network by using this approach, so read up on it, and be careful. Know what you are doing, and know the ramifications of simply disconnecting yourself from the network prior to stopping the procedure. Not only that, but if you don't own control of the switched environment, this is a very good way to get yourself blocked completely from it. This tactic, and port mirror/span/monitor are the easiest ways to know what is really going on with regards to the wire (if you don't have ACL's and other mitigation/protection strategies already in place). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 05:02:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534FC1065670 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30FF8FC14 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1892864tia.3 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jyAJGXFZdKXSmVq3WOLl8olrszZSx0GEiYSTCDJKLWE=; b=qSgUJoFcniT2Un2ijW0y85yZIap1C3umKgsmKSyfVa3cOwc2GN6TjVDnK0AJKA5PXd M8BNhOqzK7HpPHct9av7RvCV9PtNgPtg7OvELvgq79fQpq7abO1W61zx64lwPMQYXfHU AAffg90w2OlviiePj0XHmnORX+oKtfwY6Gt0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tflNr+O+py7lA4OpkETdErLnExLD8s++5214Wph01Rvjf/3Z+tRsihuURonpCyVeS6 OvGiRFlO5s9kEFS+7YNq76/+RRTawK3qY9UY8YOPYZtJ0JbaOJeHg/AlxqA6EGn91vN8 UEo2nsBUy6RxYb458pRGFW1u+Dg6F3kdx7ba4= Received: by 10.110.62.1 with SMTP id k1mr11864961tia.38.1237870963539; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm78140tid.14.2009.03.23.22.02.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:34:13 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:02:45 -0000 Hi, I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes returning me to the console. Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be appreciated. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 05:13:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEAA106564A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDCB8FC0A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1486636yxm.13 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:13:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ylNDhuiTckp98bwA7OnMfXIivIKAQCGC8k+rsOVEcko=; b=ASqsVLIzWFnN9DSkaywNXzkJ5cW+L5ZHJUT2gkAjsCjVONNqr4WEeJ+WCAYFH4+YR4 lck/7Fni1s6WR/q1bcYN+v3eAVs9Ds/HEUnEDB/j3u+VJguoNpmZkLr9mofuwPEfK17W Tsa9uUlw5v36qQEfkMEhIPBfEOiClrCzhNTew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vhhoqb8pltR80hlJ+46giWJ0Mi1hySEyzyg38ZLHNnL1yy2+dGLvA3QZ1I0tXwj4jV ArM8T/Z1ydjl2PZFr0mMeEr/WzcK4Un2O/o68Pq70L1uoi8UueZdlW2NmpPi8KINzf0P U5FkHlUv2I2qy1FQq/5tyQqTBxANxLZFQTOvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.227.9 with SMTP id z9mr14229284ybg.237.1237871636041; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:13:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:13:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jack L." To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:13:57 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a > 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* > > Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. Everything > seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes returning me to the > console. > > Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be > appreciated. > -- What error messages do you get? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 06:06:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0D5106566C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comercial_bounce@tan.com.br) Received: from mail.tan.com.br (mail.tan.com.br [200.146.46.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1136A8FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comercial_bounce@tan.com.br) Received: from mail.tan.com.br (mail.tan.com.br [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tan.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n2O4SmD6030761 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:28:48 -0300 Received: from mail.tan.com.br ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.tan.com.br) by ASSP.nospam; 24 Mar 2009 01:28:48 -0300 Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.tan.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n2O4Slb8030753; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:28:47 -0300 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.tan.com.br: apache set sender to comercial_bounce@tan.com.br using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c0173c4ec9224a385cf882643fd0a91@www.tan.com.br> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:28:47 -0300 From: "=?UTF-8?B?VGVjbm9sb2dpYSBBcGxpY2FkYSBhIE5lZ8OzY2lvcyBMVERBLg==?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer-LID: 34 X-Mailer-SID: 71 X-Mailer-Sent-By: 2 X-Assp-Re-Red: bounce X-tan.com.br-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tan.com.br-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: =?utf-8?q?XR9_Lite_-_O_melhor_custo-benef=C3=ADcio_para_automati?= =?utf-8?q?zar_a_sua_empresa?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: comercial@tan.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:06:42 -0000 Seu cliente de e-mail não consegue ler este e-mail, Para visualizar este e-mail clique no link: http://www.tan.com.br/marketing/display.php?M=183756&C=137c38513451daa843eccd8aaee4add3&S=71&L=34&N=4 Se deseja parar de receber nossos e-mails clique no link ao lado: http://www.tan.com.br/marketing/unsubscribe.php?M=183756&C=137c38513451daa843eccd8aaee4add3&L=34&N=71 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 07:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3789A1065675 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7AF8FC21 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2O7ECXo045787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:14:12 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n2O7Hqui095050; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:17:52 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:17:52 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903240717.n2O7Hqui095050@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: on@cs.ait.ac.th In-reply-to: <200903160456.n2G4uSFt009354@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (message from Olivier Nicole on Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:56:28 +0700 (ICT)) References: <200903160456.n2G4uSFt009354@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing 7.1 amd64 on Dell powerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:08 -0000 Hi, As a follow-up... > I spent a couple of days trying to install FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 on a Dell > PowerEdge 2950. > > It won't finish booting properly from the installation CD: > > with default boot, single user and verbose it stops at: > fdc0: ... > device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 > > with ACPI disabled and Safe mode it stops at: > md0: Preloaded insge ... > Trying to mount root from ufs /dev/md0 > > After it hangs, I waited about half hour and had to power down the > machine. > > Dell PowerEdge 1950 and 200 are not affected. > > Any help? I managed to install Release 6.4 amd64. I cvsup'ed to RELENG 7.1 amd64. I trimed down the kernel to keep only the devices needed by the hardware. It appreas that device sio is among the ones that hang the load of GENERIC kernel. "make kernel" would produce a bunch of lines like: kldxref: unknown metdata record 0 in file if_zyd.ko.symbols kldxref: unknown metdata record 0 in file if_zyd.ko.symbols kldxref: unknown metdata record 0 in file if_zyd.ko.symbols but 7.1 would boot nevertheless. After installing world on 7.1, the make kernel runs cleanly. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 07:49:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01851065670 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DBD8FC18 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n2O7nI2a031088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n2O7nIOP031087; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13479; Mon, 23 Mar 09 23:44:39 PST Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:43:34 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net Message-Id: <49c88f26.l1EpVEWeSl4QsOWV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jalmberg@identry.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:49:20 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 23 March 2009 19:59:36 John Almberg wrote: > > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. > > > > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on > > the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to > > complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. > > security/nmap > > If the box pings, you can simply scan your LAN like: > $ nmap -sP 192.168.2.0/24 Or, with no ports needed: $ ping -n -t 5 -i 10 192.168.200.255 Granted you need to know the broadcast address. If you know the interface name, you can get the broadcast address from ifconfig: $ ping -n -t 5 -i 10 ` ifconfig xl0 | sed -n -e 's/^.* broadcast //p' ` BTW both ping and ifconfig are in /sbin, which is perhaps somewhat less likely to be in PATH than /bin and /usr/bin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 09:15:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B058E1065672 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAA08FC1F for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (adsl-71-155-238-201.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [71.155.238.201]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B38011805; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49C8A24E.1030009@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:05:18 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:15:27 -0000 Morgan Wesström wrote: > Jubal Kessler wrote: >> (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is >> capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am >> forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the >> downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) > This is exactly the reason why I built my own router several years ago. I have done the same with PF and AltQ for the past few years. It is so effective on my 1536/384 ADSL that I now have the opposite problem: a large download will lag both downloads and uploads. Sadly, this is a more difficult issue to tackle without full access to hardware at both ends of the slow link. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 09:21:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037FB106566C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70768FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2827147wfg.7 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:21:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZQ4U66NEMUMBZuScLGrMSdnmP6CN3tR4dNDBKGQSsOk=; b=Z667lzONcXPf+vMpi3dvBHcGBSRBnJBYpC6B3iEjyLrdRnw5trZNW5/G9rjDXkctm1 ssjGCx//rANPkCWySM+YP/951TQbO2ja5wKVflNguJ4ywN8s/yIASGer4OnO9BZnSuJn 2py03dVNHDcuOdQ2PVxG0UBWXablF8q8wiJss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QnYkfTwM8JV0ZcpTpMaSH9sO26BkK8DL16CYTL6WIzP9jrLFv6J4LLM1YX6Ct+HP1n Rz4wT2rOKjwWGYCM2WSNHD0vcnu6pISoHR/O+Hq1UgVtO58kMIY087miX7+vtLUb+5ev cfJX1zoBYEC4Kcyjt4SOR1QBbLeettzCqBi2s= Received: by 10.142.157.9 with SMTP id f9mr3292970wfe.241.1237886502325; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm13281560wff.2.2009.03.24.02.21.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C8A681.8090109@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:53:13 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L." References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:21:43 -0000 Jack L. wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Manish Jain wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a >> 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* >> >> Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. Everything >> seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes returning me to the >> console. >> >> Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be >> appreciated. >> -- > > What error messages do you get? > I am getting the following with 'startx 2>startx.log' contents of startx.log: > > (xfce4-menu-plugin:26747): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'seahorse-preferences'. The 'hicolor' theme > was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. > You can get a copy from: > http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases > > (xfdesktop:26729): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'seahorse-preferences'. The 'hicolor' theme > was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. > You can get a copy from: > http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > The application 'xfce4-session' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfdesktop' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfce4-panel' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfwm4' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > xinit: connection to X server lost. > The application 'xfce4-settings-helper' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'Terminal' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 09:54:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98471065673 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A62D8FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:54:33 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n2O9sVgx004477 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:54:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:54:31 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 09:54:33.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[888D19C0:01C9AC66] Subject: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:54:35 -0000 Hello, I've updated FreeBSD in some VM from 7.0-REL to CURRENT (without any problem); but I'm unsure now how to bring the ports tree /usr/ports to CURRENT; normally in 7.0-REL I've used 'portsnap fetch update', but this will perhaps not bring the ports tree to CURRENT; I've read a lot the handbook about, but it is not clear for me; should I use CVS as well to bring the /usr/ports to CURRENT, or something else? Thx for a pointer matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 10:07:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B2C106566C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E160A8FC1D for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 503691924A; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:07:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:07:14 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090324100714.GA451@muon.cran.org.uk> References: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:07:15 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:54:31AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I've updated FreeBSD in some VM from 7.0-REL to CURRENT (without any > problem); but I'm unsure now how to bring the ports tree /usr/ports to > CURRENT; > > normally in 7.0-REL I've used 'portsnap fetch update', but this will > perhaps not bring the ports tree to CURRENT; I've read a lot the > handbook about, but it is not clear for me; should I use CVS as well to > bring the /usr/ports to CURRENT, or something else? > The ports tree isn't versioned like /usr/src; 'portsnap fetch' will always fetch the latest copy from cvs mainline, and the only way to go back to a branch (e.g RELENG_5_5_0) is by using csup, which you would only really want to do if you're using a release of FreeBSD which has gone out of support, such as 5.x. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 10:11:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809341065674 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E468FC13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3B451924A; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:37 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090324101137.GB451@muon.cran.org.uk> References: <200903232010.21179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <49c88f26.l1EpVEWeSl4QsOWV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49c88f26.l1EpVEWeSl4QsOWV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: jalmberg@identry.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:38 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:43:34AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Monday 23 March 2009 19:59:36 John Almberg wrote: > > > What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached > > > clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. > > > > > > I have one box (an appliance that I have no access to), that is on > > > the LAN but I don't know what IP address it's using. I'd like to > > > complete my network map, and that is the one empty box on my chart. > > > > security/nmap > > > > If the box pings, you can simply scan your LAN like: > > $ nmap -sP 192.168.2.0/24 > > Or, with no ports needed: > > $ ping -n -t 5 -i 10 192.168.200.255 > > Granted you need to know the broadcast address. If you know the > interface name, you can get the broadcast address from ifconfig: That only works if the OS is configured to reply to broadcast ping, which appears to be usually disabled nowadays. At least on FreeBSD 7.1 net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho defaults to 0. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 10:21:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF631065691 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11788FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:12 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n2OALAVV005089; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20090324102110.GA4829@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090324100714.GA451@muon.cran.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090324100714.GA451@muon.cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 10:21:12.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[4184C1A0:01C9AC6A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:21:16 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 24, 2009 a las 10:07:14AM +0000, Bruce Cran escribió: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:54:31AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've updated FreeBSD in some VM from 7.0-REL to CURRENT (without any > > problem); but I'm unsure now how to bring the ports tree /usr/ports to > > CURRENT; > > > > normally in 7.0-REL I've used 'portsnap fetch update', but this will > > perhaps not bring the ports tree to CURRENT; I've read a lot the > > handbook about, but it is not clear for me; should I use CVS as well to > > bring the /usr/ports to CURRENT, or something else? > > > > The ports tree isn't versioned like /usr/src; 'portsnap fetch' will > always fetch the latest copy from cvs mainline, and the only way to go back to > a branch (e.g RELENG_5_5_0) is by using csup, which you would only > really want to do if you're using a release of FreeBSD which has gone > out of support, such as 5.x. What made me worry about this was reading http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches.... I have now thrown away the /usr/ports which came from the 70R CDROM and did a # cvs checkout ports now, for example, ports/UPDATING is bleeding edge; Thx for your feedback in any case matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 12:06:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E4106567A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D078FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so396520eyf.7 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rRjNk1wBXCpN9ywRMc7xLy/ZUwRZAB2Rzg6sJFTdQfA=; b=wwVf7MpL2D6E2JiltaqTnvpEcsn8OzPNaI2oBGNFwQgB8e4qVvl32/YnoGF9ftgZME wJoryIRmFL0dB9SCoVoex2sQVCRqIO0bbd5Bc05Hfhhu4CFT25yaqGXbQ9zk3z9txPJv MOjzr9sB+bUK+UHL+OM/e9O4REiJJpM7N1euo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DYxK35+q/PGzDA9XVUeimBdJCETXFyer6VULqUjxDRQWhdPzSUwc92XpjiILjFOfDZ da7C1I51srCGrwPJnkXRhjK4r+pvjo0JNWTVR7MXjfOBUW+iu8O4kDe8jUKqAltihRPf lV0jNDEjmAVrXxcOgAJiLehMz1BSqDr0z9LmQ= Received: by 10.216.15.85 with SMTP id e63mr2872629wee.199.1237896412604; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm7179549eyf.12.2009.03.24.05.06.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:06:43 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090324120643.5fcd1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090324102110.GA4829@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090324100714.GA451@muon.cran.org.uk> <20090324102110.GA4829@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:07:13 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:10 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Tuesday, March 24, 2009 a las 10:07:14AM +0000, Bruce Cran > escribi=F3: >=20 > > The ports tree isn't versioned like /usr/src; 'portsnap fetch' will > > always fetch the latest copy from cvs mainline, and the only way to > > go back to a branch (e.g RELENG_5_5_0) is by using csup, which you > > would only really want to do if you're using a release of FreeBSD > > which has gone out of support, such as 5.x. >=20 > What made me worry about this was reading >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html >=20 > The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the > FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches.... You should still rebuild all your ports, since you have crossed a major version boundary.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 12:17:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D0510656CC for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D458FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:17:58 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n2OCHvaX008652; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:17:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:17:57 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: RW Message-ID: <20090324121757.GA8445@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090324100714.GA451@muon.cran.org.uk> <20090324102110.GA4829@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090324120643.5fcd1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090324120643.5fcd1f87@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 12:17:58.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[915EB360:01C9AC7A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:18:01 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 24, 2009 a las 12:06:43PM +0000, RW escribió: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:10 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El día Tuesday, March 24, 2009 a las 10:07:14AM +0000, Bruce Cran > > escribió: > > > > > The ports tree isn't versioned like /usr/src; 'portsnap fetch' will > > > always fetch the latest copy from cvs mainline, and the only way to > > > go back to a branch (e.g RELENG_5_5_0) is by using csup, which you > > > would only really want to do if you're using a release of FreeBSD > > > which has gone out of support, such as 5.x. > > > > What made me worry about this was reading > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html > > > > The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the > > FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches.... > > You should still rebuild all your ports, since you have crossed a major > version boundary. Yes, of course I should do that; but this is a clean system; I've just installe 70R and CVS updated to CURRENT; no packages have been in /var/db/pkg; I now CVS check'ed out /usr/ports and will build what I need. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 13:07:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313831065670 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409CF8FC1A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OD6vWH023394 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OD6v83023391 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: non-interactive passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:07:08 -0000 how to change password for account non-interactively from commandline/shell script? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 13:16:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9236106564A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891578FC24 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A87B7E818; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:16:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:16:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903241416.36057.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: non-interactive passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:16:39 -0000 On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:06:57 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how to change password for account non-interactively from commandline/shell > script? pw usermod uname -h fd or -H fd, see manpage. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 13:19:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A97106568C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A38B8FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2ODJAko023471; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:19:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2ODJ9F8023468; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:19:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:19:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200903241416.36057.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: References: <200903241416.36057.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-interactive passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:19:18 -0000 exactly what i needed - and missed reading manual On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:06:57 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> how to change password for account non-interactively from commandline/shell >> script? > > pw usermod uname -h fd or -H fd, see manpage. > -- > Mel > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 13:21:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF55106568A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F299C8FC1B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8492659; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:21:06 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8492656; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:20:47 -0400 Message-ID: <49C8DE27.4090100@radel.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:20:39 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010706010306060604090203" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-interactive passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:21:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010706010306060604090203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > how to change password for account non-interactively from > commandline/shell script? expect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect is a more general purpose solution in that problem space, though obviously more effort in this specific case. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms010706010306060604090203 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" 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wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500918FC21 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2ODO69F017689; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:24:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2ODO6qj017686; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:24:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:24:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manish Jain In-Reply-To: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:24:11 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a > 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't installed. > Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. Everything > seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes returning me to the > console. > > Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be > appreciated. Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the requirements, then do startxfce4. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:07:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C710656D6 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1368FC1A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49C0B9D70023F1A5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:07:27 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4/AB+GyElV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBUIszh0uBDgEBAQEeFwu9C4N2Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,413,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="466171766" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2009 15:07:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OE7NrH003957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:07:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49C8E91B.8050702@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:07:23 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090314) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49C598E3.80107@cheeze.org> <49C6053B.8050403@pp.dyndns.biz> <49C8A24E.1030009@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <49C8A24E.1030009@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: ipfw, pf and ALTQ on outbound traffic? (or: "The net is slow when I upload!") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:35 -0000 CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > Morgan Wesström wrote: >> Jubal Kessler wrote: >>> (To put it another way: When I max out my upstream, and my upstream is >>> capped lower than my downstream, my downstream becomes useless and I am >>> forced to wait until the upload finishes before I can resume using the >>> downstream. This is a problem, and I'd like to solve it.) >> This is exactly the reason why I built my own router several years ago. > > I have done the same with PF and AltQ for the past few years. It is so > effective on my 1536/384 ADSL that I now have the opposite problem: a > large download will lag both downloads and uploads. Sadly, this is a > more difficult issue to tackle without full access to hardware at both > ends of the slow link. > Yes, I have noticed that too. Some discussions I've seen suggest that you add a queue on your internal interface too and limit the bandwidth entering your LAN. This will drop packets and TCP is supposed to renegotiate transmission windows then and make the upstream server send data slower and not saturate your download. I'm no expert in the gritty technical details and I haven't tried this myself but it might be worth experimenting with. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:07:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75D01065674 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B5C8FC27 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E137E818 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:07:34 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:07:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903241507.33241.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Support for parallel building hits ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:40 -0000 Hi, I remember people on this list being interested in parallel builds, so here's the link to my forum post that explains the details of the support that's been added to the ports tree last Sunday: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=17604#post17604 -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:11:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA401065672 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDC28FC13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 3258 invoked by uid 89); 24 Mar 2009 14:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 24 Mar 2009 14:11:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: <49C8486C.7020300@ibctech.ca> References: <49C8486C.7020300@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2CAFBDC3-B4EB-4C33-8522-FBBAD71C92CB@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:14 -0400 To: Steve Bertrand X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that scans lan for client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:11:17 -0000 > I suspect that you don't have a switch that can port 'mirror' or > 'span'. > If you do, let us know. > > Otherwise, if you *really* want to find out what is on your switched > Ethernet network, and nmap/arp etc. isn't enough, then I'd > recommend an > application called 'ettercap'. It runs on the CLI, and a colleague > also > has a nice GUI for it (under Linux) as well. > > This will allow you to infiltrate the network at Layer-2 by arp > poisoning all connected devices, and intercepting all traffic. > > Essentially, you perform a MitM, and you become the host (or in a > small > environment the default gw) that the device is trying to talk to. > > This way, you can find out not only what the host is, but what it > is saying. > > Please understand that this approach has significant side effects. You > can do extensive harm to your local network by using this approach, so > read up on it, and be careful. Know what you are doing, and know the > ramifications of simply disconnecting yourself from the network > prior to > stopping the procedure. Not only that, but if you don't own control of > the switched environment, this is a very good way to get yourself > blocked completely from it. > > This tactic, and port mirror/span/monitor are the easiest ways to know > what is really going on with regards to the wire (if you don't have > ACL's and other mitigation/protection strategies already in place). Thanks. This is probably overkill for this little LAN. There are only 8 machines on it, mainly servers and a big printer and this Vonage device. The clients are mainly wireless devices that come and go, depending on who is in the building. The network is just one Cisco router and an Apple Airport Extreme for wireless (the best wireless access point I've ever used.) The wireless network just extends the wired LAN, so all wired and wireless devices are in the same address space. We actually have a couple cheap Airport Express boxes spread around the building, but they are essentially repeaters for the Airport Extreme, to extend the range. All the machines are either FreeBSD servers or Apple laptops (with the occasional rogue Windows laptop that sneaks in :-) The whole network is simple and cheap, with a minimum of wires, but it works. It just bugged me that I didn't know the IP address of the Vonage box. - John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:13:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D22106566B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27818FC17 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6528001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:13:50 +0100 Message-ID: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:13:33 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mod_php5 and apache22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:13:52 -0000 I moved a site from some FreeBSD 5.2 or something (with apache2 and mod_php5 at that time, about 3 years old) to 7.1 (Beta though) and apache22. Now I don't find something that looks like mod_php5 in /usr/ports/www. Has that changed somehow? -- Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:20:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD661065677 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD1C8FC23 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F05F7E818; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:20:28 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:20:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903241520.26199.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: mod_php5 and apache22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:20:30 -0000 On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:13:33 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I moved a site from some FreeBSD 5.2 or something (with apache2 and > mod_php5 at that time, > about 3 years old) to 7.1 (Beta though) and apache22. > > Now I don't find something that looks like mod_php5 in /usr/ports/www. > > Has that changed somehow? lang/php5 with APACHE_MODULE ticked in options dialog. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 14:24:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042511065673 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F90F8FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from localhost (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818A0C9 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:24:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8qM5r9rC6b90 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:24:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from snifi.localnet (87-204-241-35.ip.netia.com.pl [87.204.241.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF03B2D for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:24:10 +0100 (CET) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:24:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.1 (Linux/2.6.28-ARCH; KDE/4.2.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200903241524.09376.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: mod_php5 and apache22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:24:18 -0000 Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:13:33 Christoph Kukulies napisa=B3(a): > I moved a site from some FreeBSD 5.2 or something (with apache2 and > mod_php5 at that time, > about 3 years old) to 7.1 (Beta though) and apache22. > > Now I don't find something that looks like mod_php5 in /usr/ports/www. > > Has that changed somehow? Yes, it has changed. cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 && make config there is option apache which says it builds apache module. The reason is explained in ports this way: =2D- Port: www/mod_php5 Moved: lang/php5 Date: 2006-05-06 Reason: Unification of php slave ports Regards, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 15:35:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD221065679 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA5A8FC23 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n2OFV8pT023417; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:31:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n2OFV8nv023416; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:31:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:31:08 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090324153108.GB23073@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090324095431.GA4288@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated "world" to CURRENT, how to update ports to CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:35:19 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:54:31AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I've updated FreeBSD in some VM from 7.0-REL to CURRENT (without any > problem); but I'm unsure now how to bring the ports tree /usr/ports to > CURRENT; > > normally in 7.0-REL I've used 'portsnap fetch update', but this will > perhaps not bring the ports tree to CURRENT; I've read a lot the > handbook about, but it is not clear for me; should I use CVS as well to > bring the /usr/ports to CURRENT, or something else? Just put the line ports-all tag=. in your supfile whenever you do the csup. Remember what the ports tree is - a skeleton for installing ports. Doing this will just bring the tree up to date. Then you will need to build and install the desired ports to get the actual utilities updated. You might also add doc-all tag=. to the supfile to get the latest docs. ////jerry > > Thx for a pointer > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 15:46:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CE91065670 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC2C8FC18 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OFkHgp037579; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:46:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n2OFkGRx037576; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:46:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:46:16 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090324154616.GA34742@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Mel Flynn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Christoph Kukulies References: <49C8EA8D.10401@kukulies.org> <200903241520.26199.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200903241520.26199.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:46:20 +0100 (CET) Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_php5 and apache22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:46:22 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 03:20:26PM +0100, Mel Flynn typed: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:13:33 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > I moved a site from some FreeBSD 5.2 or something (with apache2 and > > mod_php5 at that time, > > about 3 years old) to 7.1 (Beta though) and apache22. > > > > Now I don't find something that looks like mod_php5 in /usr/ports/www. > > > > Has that changed somehow? > > lang/php5 with APACHE_MODULE ticked in options dialog. The apache module compile is off by default since somewhere in 2006 and I keep forgetting that occasionally :( So people using pkg_add -r php5 will not get mod_php5. This is probably not what they expected. Would it not be a good idea to (re)introduce www/mod_php5? Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:24:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3566010656F0 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4A08FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2214994fxm.43 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=GnviVk3HvGvJmYvUJJ82ypDDJrG0mDpvQj+ozqYXHUI=; b=aWI6SVMwqS4FSZUPSmz84qrvZEVquvoYPZjHj+OWyDT2eO2BUaFWAzyRXMJIw6HDtt I7iIbhQb1Nmge9DxmqCIv3PuxnrloeBrSwJZKTFUKBVm51+YeBNSjabeCOM+u/++ZyZn vnAS0Pk5XjqQekVEO4oUZoHHZANKihb/UcyRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=c975AXn+lriCYwxAhlhrGs0dQoyTlzo2MDN/O0KVbJYUHZZAdqxwEBhXz/ArKFSCPN b7hchr2ovIR9uNBrdJCg2d1XHXQQP8Ck4qWx5AevT75Czagw7HSzOd28dw5ofa9fZ5oH T2xZFrK7FljJUMqAInE6rNXeLkXb6eJkub53Q= Received: by 10.103.175.8 with SMTP id c8mr3707848mup.117.1237911864591; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm12482230muf.55.2009.03.24.09.24.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:22:24 +0200 To: Peter From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:24:31 -0000 Also, it would be a good ideea to go through the pf manual at least once. I don't see any scrub or options or timeout periods (fine tunning). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:25:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB91065DD3 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.halliday@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE528FC25 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.halliday@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so3710916qyk.3 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ul6vmk3KHhEgHLBkR0OO4XB/Zw40XVAmzb0LFFS/M0o=; b=xM86iu12VeK0TSkhgrpShfLAdAhWVwpcx4je89rGOl0fS7rG2MdQJmc5aXvCaJXjSP v59qpBjwBvhcMEjlHApLi57+3R71KGd8c5gaQdHEmAv95PPyju4AGtc89grETyi27EBB X3IM9UF73THjjYMMNMs9L38PvZeDW2r5cCthE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gdO8UwPKrLdqMeLtbJBqfHY251c1JIiJM/7Y/UZ7IbCG7MqWloiO51aU5a15iq68jG J+tusuO/MZ6yRF5lCnLWJJOUm8O0PUQ+Dj7xMmOvAdIeCMYa1H4MIUz/xPlBdbJGDlHg D+Nw8b9LYUG7jNSR6o2TVsuc4Y/XA54oTBxGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.1 with SMTP id m1mr3707749qcl.56.1237911918215; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:25:18 -0300 Message-ID: <2dab70a30903240925j1ba24f22t3eaf88c12d9802d6@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul Halliday To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: OT: Ping (DUP!). X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:23 -0000 I couldn't think of a better place to throw this out, so I will try here. Is this situation always indicative of a network problem or can you get a DUP from a machine that is multihomed and doing load balancing? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:25:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17721065E69 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444708FC28 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2173522bwz.43 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=IFacWFJqqSPTCWKKd4kYON5OAI5NFVzF/HRt/fnODSk=; b=AILIw9aygZfk8+Z+ysYRGVmy0+zYM385phA+QS06MIr24t+qcZsgIcVOWc8g+vYZe8 F1EBxXRph4b2HWoyZZun8HcJ+WVAYrE7fuAr0D6Fl+gyu3N8gYdR732TnXGhRxHkOIrr Knk2zgI8KqPGvwR9STCJ+ZmgbzftgbcLW5pdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=nCMFPTAu4FT+5yf5jjqvYDdvjQ5MBWDuiNsaHWR12c8+PwdNtm/pSbfIlqbpJymIvF FRW4Tn97MQENSELyzdLNmMf9LgxjNNokxhkbxgHpJjxSIwluIu9ZgRyQXsCGdG1TnwzT BcHlvfvxDvBYsuOOTi+iaYRybI5jHD1yw+kUg= Received: by 10.103.49.12 with SMTP id b12mr3712650muk.81.1237911948159; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y37sm12303760mug.53.2009.03.24.09.25.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:23:48 +0200 To: Peter From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:54 -0000 I forgot to mention... You have something like pass in/out on lo0 that's not wrong but it's not the way to do it.... set skip on lo0 # is the right way From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:37:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91FE1065F19 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132208FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OGbaVU024348; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:37:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OGbZrM024345; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:37:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:37:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jon Radel In-Reply-To: <49C8DE27.4090100@radel.com> Message-ID: References: <49C8DE27.4090100@radel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-interactive passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:38:06 -0000 > expect > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect > > is a more general purpose solution in that problem space, though obviously i know expect, and i use it when there is no straight way. usually it is - i used pw usermod -h and worked fine. thanks all for help. i read manual too briefly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:38:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13392106639F for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F798FC2F for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2117388tia.3 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8xTmYiF0J5lIBmSiI0KmuvcwzdhbnpzXPWtfuaxa0jo=; b=MUIcFxDuNK8B4dZ5Ue/7SjvpYAxQF/EJI6067RGFPT6sK6QrT/xDEkm+A5fqlnEggx XPyBAGT/TDAUTd/35YKNzYPrDD8w+WI8a5rFUnnGYjBuJ03VuYeOa8OnXL3NfJfxzH9f rSkY9EXKHGVX4cXhYmPkObleltO4JRP5lylGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pmWm5K+e5/x0q0Y4aH+uN1PBHgKe43PzRGynDpwPGrSj2VL1TMwOISHXPZeDkOgCYB IwE7N8yGTl6816n9wzDNjuoklCE5+YvskUt7qS3kHKZkdkczOAHVbLHuCGgXlYe7cZLy R13QJE8z/mGHcNq/eIP4VbZNJssuLboRxVeok= Received: by 10.110.52.5 with SMTP id z5mr12304556tiz.11.1237912737061; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.232.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm244082tib.5.2009.03.24.09.38.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:10:22 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:06 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > >> I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a >> 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* > > The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't installed. > >> Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. >> Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes >> returning me to the console. >> >> Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be >> appreciated. > > Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the > requirements, then do startxfce4. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the same. Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Even more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There are a few warnings though : (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. You can get a copy from: http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' not present in theme (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)' (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:39:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1132810656C8 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3FB8FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OGcuMF024355; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:38:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OGct0p024352; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:38:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:38:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Paul Halliday In-Reply-To: <2dab70a30903240925j1ba24f22t3eaf88c12d9802d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <2dab70a30903240925j1ba24f22t3eaf88c12d9802d6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Ping (DUP!). X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:14 -0000 > Is this situation always indicative of a network problem or can you > get a DUP from a machine that is multihomed and doing load balancing? multihomed with same IP pool (i mean BGP and 2 or more links) or multihomed with just 2 or more links to provider and different IP's on each. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 17:18:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332DD10657B8 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-defer02.adhost.com (mail-defer02.adhost.com [216.211.128.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC408FC1E for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in04.adhost.com (mail-in04.adhost.com [10.212.3.14]) by mail-defer02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E57138891A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (exchange.adhost.com [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in04.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101EB614F99; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-pgp-encoding-format: MIME x-pgp-mapi-encoding-version: 2.5.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="PGP_Universal_F284CC36_61468F6F_D8B4E21C_1CD3A046"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 x-pgp-encoding-version: 2.0.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:00:10 -0700 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: first firewall with pf Thread-Index: AcmsnXP3KzgXx3KSSCmwy6f1rwcRdAABCnAA References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "Eric Magutu" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:18:55 -0000 --PGP_Universal_F284CC36_61468F6F_D8B4E21C_1CD3A046 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I also forgot to mention: You should probably log your block rule so that you can see what's going on= if things don't work as expected. So: block in log on $ext_if Note the lack of "quick" as well, as previously mentioned. With logging enabled, provided you have pflog running (which you should), y= ou can use the following to see what's being blocked. tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 (provided pflog0 is your pflog interface). Regards, Mike --PGP_Universal_F284CC36_61468F6F_D8B4E21C_1CD3A046 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PGP.sig" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.9.1 (Build 287) iQEVAwUBSckRmvTXQhZ+XcVAAQjMswf/TkULvyN7JV6NEqwDo+WxuZo/4DRlv1G3 ZrcH08lnQPBOxaq4HFoPX9hCi0gdeLj4X7w+ziyXwpYId4Ue0aEqRQVWzLv7nUSf qoeSz/sjVzsWfDx+BXGSlq5/Y4B/nGlBTqscBYFqfDJcr6P9SkHsLg63CTNLE86H G71XBtab6Wq85F16zM7PXyxVd1zYqS6MYOmz/EkkpLZ0DqrghcSK6VAmNosgPFzf BqcMyO2q3sz4hJZ53QSFOCgOyZ2h/Bsa3sf7QGqs7LazmR1Cg/rxRfHitl7wnrzA pJiOjNy2nku61qveNBWR9mJYNhblO2epQiqVGqSYDtKozQfDY4Vklw== =svCE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PGP_Universal_F284CC36_61468F6F_D8B4E21C_1CD3A046-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 17:36:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AC31065852 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953DE8FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6528141 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:36:13 +0100 Message-ID: <49C919FC.2010901@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:56 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: phpBB3, php5 and mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:36:21 -0000 I'm in the process of moving a phpBB3 forum to a new machine (formerly 5.2, now 7.1). I also was so keen to move to php5 (was running php4 before, I believe). I have the phpBB3 forum directory copied back into the DocumentRoot. Mysql 4.1 is running, The database is there, I can log in to mysql and view the database. I can get phpinfo. Only I can't get the hell out of the phpBB3 forum. When I invoke the index.php I get a blank page with an incomplete xml header. I have no idea were to look at the moment. It looks a bit like php5 is not accessing the database (mysql) or something. Is there some module or driver to be compiled in? I installed php5 now from ports with the apache mod_php5 module being installed. Any help welcome, -- Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 18:48:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FA7106566B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0693B8FC1A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB4B7E818; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:48:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:48:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49C919FC.2010901@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49C919FC.2010901@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903241948.12096.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: phpBB3, php5 and mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:48:15 -0000 On Tuesday 24 March 2009 18:35:56 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Only I can't get the hell out of the phpBB3 forum. When I invoke the > index.php > I get a blank page with an incomplete xml header. I have no idea were to > look at the moment. > > It looks a bit like php5 is not accessing the database (mysql) or > something. Is there some module > or driver to be compiled in? I installed php5 now from ports with the > apache mod_php5 module > being installed. If you installed phpBB3 from ports, php5-mysql should've been installed. Php5 has been split into modules. You may want to visit lang/php5-extensions for the meta port and install what you need. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 18:49:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3537F1065678 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C6C8FC0A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 450221E005F4; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:26:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2OIORmi068799; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id n2OIOQ4Z068798; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:26 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200903241824.n2OIOQ4Z068798@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: guru@unixarea.de X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions In-Reply-To: <20090317143537.GA12969@rebelion.Sisis.de> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0-STABLE && qemu not terminating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:38 -0000 In article <20090317143537.GA12969@rebelion.Sisis.de> you write: > >Hello, > >My VM qemu (qemu-0.9.1_3 / kqemu-kmod-1.3.0.p11_2) does not terminate >after the system (WinXP) is successfully halted and the qemu window is >closed; it stays forever as: > ># ps ax | fgrep qemu > 1687 ?? I 0:00,25 kdesu -u root -c /home/guru/qemu/w2k/qemu.sh > 1713 ?? Is 0:00,00 sh -c /home/guru/qemu/w2k/qemu.sh > 1714 ?? I 0:00,00 /bin/sh /home/guru/qemu/w2k/qemu.sh > 1717 ?? DE 11:51,11 qemu -localtime -hda disk0 -hdb disk1 -net nic -net tap -m 512 > >any ides? thx > > matthias While I don't remeber seeing reports about this particular issue, it is still very well possible that it has been fixed in the meantime, so I'd advise you to update. (the port is at 0.10.1 now, which contains quite a few bugfixes and improvements... Don't forget to read UPDATING and the pkg-message of the port tho.) Oh and also, there usually is no reason to run qemu as root if you setup tap permissions and (possibly) ifup/down scripts accordingly. (Or, if you are only using tuntap because you are on amd64 where slirp was broken, that also is fixed now.) HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 18:51:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A835E1065674 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFE158FC24 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2009 18:51:08 -0000 Received: from adsl58-81.ath.forthnet.gr (EHLO [192.168.1.5]) [77.49.89.81] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 24 Mar 2009 19:51:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ySZFJK41y2RFthrNjjCvD1qymTHJQ57Y6/RzUGY MfXEKPZVCVQfyq Message-ID: <49C92B91.6020801@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:50:57 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Halliday References: <2dab70a30903240925j1ba24f22t3eaf88c12d9802d6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2dab70a30903240925j1ba24f22t3eaf88c12d9802d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Ping (DUP!). X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:51:11 -0000 Paul Halliday wrote: > Is this situation always indicative of a network problem or can you > get a DUP from a machine that is multihomed and doing load balancing? No, that's definitely a problem. Load-balancing mechanisms - try to - forward packets though different paths, not twice as in this situation. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 18:56:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E7110656E1 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8E38FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1662644ywh.13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:56:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BRL+3ca34xcW7V9gzgdtX7FYlilat+zEW7JBjXCJR+M=; b=QjzsowxP5sc08D5tAXFcZsH7/vS55jk68e+ldoeuzkEuberjAx8AlGNZH0+krPHjgB M/MMHxGPwOAealGfnsUZDAiG+9Lh/o2vtS2JgKUlBsarSO7kNl62Ql6Dmm2ev+xn7wAO utWDsu7TcalTUyya1QobauqrPEUycmAbm0eR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FDsTdmIjtK0TsZMIqWebMCUzmkzZoYrZv6eR3aZXJdkHvpxM1A5kn4gJqBeNI9LEmp 3JFn/6sVYB2M8Vuv3B1O1ILGi5LFu0EVqCMrakQLUa2O90/cNIF0BTTW2Ix8Wheh1VGH joSN4kYwKKak8/ny58JsqIX7RrhpkEZ5ghW5A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.82.13 with SMTP id j13mr15505597ybl.84.1237920989674; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:56:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:56:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jack L." To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:32 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Manish Jain wr= ote: > Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: >> >>> I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a >>> 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* >> >> The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't >> installed. >> >>> Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. >>> Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes retu= rning >>> me to the console. >>> >>> Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be >>> appreciated. >> >> Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the requirements= , >> then do startxfce4. >> >> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >> > > I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the same= . > Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Even > more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There a= re > a few warnings though : > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon > 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme > was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. > You can get a copy from: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not prese= nt > in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not > present in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-closetab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' not > present in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' > not present in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not prese= nt > in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not > present in theme > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' > not present in theme > > (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid > non-instantiatable type `(null)' > > (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: > assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed > > -- Try a make clean install clean and see if it still does that. Also, are your ports up to date? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 19:33:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E1106580C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C078FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2150349tia.3 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OJqlJAEiyDmxmyKgkRgpWi04w7xg7mhbyQ7D8uv2UUg=; b=ccqsRMS9WmQuFc5pavCryoSroWqJkbZeIiXtD23EPFLPsr3eMLtE9E5+QjDi7vWIB9 1JIDWXJ6tw2TIE9ajcUO3GflRYOEUvxssv84YeZox2EJgGV2RJb/y6V7wJr/GdvKPeSh 67OHyCL3uPYTRJ8BxM5uJ+GeYHQopQTe94ZUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DZpfJkiFwzWaBYwg7lKumU8VRYUbiYMGpD4fJLpdLnI+Hw/izr4gFSyczOba3JAy4B rVSRBlGdlQMesOucg7YhXJL2PaZVKrvsQqHCJ3kSJpbrfQgvpALxUL9LcOi8JKzI5XGY LN9H7Ou3L0AoEBMFLFx0Js5tju6jcIcmHctOg= Received: by 10.110.43.20 with SMTP id q20mr5557029tiq.45.1237923219339; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.232.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm798564tim.4.2009.03.24.12.33.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:05:05 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L." References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:33:56 -0000 Jack L. wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Manish Jain wrote: >> Warren Block wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: >>> >>>> I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a >>>> 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* >>> The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't >>> installed. >>> >>>> Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. >>>> Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes returning >>>> me to the console. >>>> >>>> Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be >>>> appreciated. >>> Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the requirements, >>> then do startxfce4. >>> >>> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >>> >> I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the same. >> Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Even >> more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There are >> a few warnings though : >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon >> 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme >> was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. >> You can get a copy from: >>     http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not present >> in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not >> present in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-closetab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' not >> present in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' >> not present in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not present >> in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not >> present in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >> 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' >> not present in theme >> >> (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid >> non-instantiatable type `(null)' >> >> (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: >> assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed >> >> -- > Try a make clean install clean and see if it still does that. Also, > are your ports up to date? > Hi Jack/Warren/All, I did : make deinstall make clean make install clean The results are the same. I downloaded ports.tar.gz last week, so I think the ports should be fairly up2date. However, I would still greatly appreciate it if somebody could send me an sh/bash script or command that would demonstrate how to use cvsup to keep my ports directory up2date. Using cvs is one area which, thanks to my Linux heritage, is best rated as ERROR_NONE -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 19:38:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F3106589D for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74CF8FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1346612qwb.7 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TvZ8Lk4swkvWfOJ1wBQ0dCnNRddpLE8LDtjd8zk1CZA=; b=WttE1BFUPUE0a/BpWz5X+AYLbmGtiBxFgbddbfN9DNERVIpB2dH1FbVUYdOZZaL5pd LTrHALaGuXtRgz56t4eYVVmwoiv1MCnokwnZ26Rv//sevp2X0xk6/LVcwbaPwEx3yAk9 qFyI9dnAjCTCA2ijggMZCGvSV2B34wqq/246U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L5RA/iuWiZe45jxwq3Ij+s2za7ak7a6R/OahXpqjI+mG+e7GABJ2heOrGJGYEuJujH FqaqcV9FlH7kC+teiFpZqMStP80A9HbJojsRk7HpPanRxxSJUVHPz+DoVFLpnvfE5qVh q8pd3h0ECo9hqGv/QGJpHrrKUbHM/1G4DyhUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.83 with SMTP id p19mr11265559qag.191.1237922128353; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:15:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:15:28 -0300 Message-ID: From: D G Teed To: Warren Block , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Atom 330 testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:38:57 -0000 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Warren Block wrote: > This board would make a very nice low-power server if it could boot > reliably. > I'm running the earlier brother to this with Linux and it is fine. The only weakness is the southbridge fan - they fail early in their life. Google it and you'll see it isn't just my experience. I'd never run this with the stock fan - this fan is required for the southbridge and also the passive air it shoots to the CPU next to it. I opted for an Antec Spot Cool to provide cooling. --Donald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 19:45:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20E910656BB for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877858FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1679267ywh.13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CLQJckSJFHjLSjHti4yM8cGDD0K8z3ztXo6wlgd64OY=; b=AdeB0d5RoGOrmn76RaY1SvZNUHWxcDNwZFSn+LD6a2GTB8PG7SHOc3vzRJDrUW0U9h NodcPNhLZvXyVcXlg37peAth6CDCkHCGvYbB8vG5URx6JAAYdHl7ELJ7I8YPZYbSEKzD aeF5vUT6HUvF8EVMwMFHoXlIdJ+I43LPBz10Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A3wDFwii2HSVBO2gAfeP/K23w068tSHOcEgDR9bqFiyJhJb3+9eQCSqlm27whrNHTA e5U618SZ1XeckSFzCo20wRH8aumY4cdvvbSE6n9DTYFib41PEoOoNevT9TFPtGT67QDI s1QxUdWI5/YyIg76lAM+SUBJ9H4Ne9DtbAGB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.53.2 with SMTP id b2mr6653270yba.127.1237923930919; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:45:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jack L." To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:45:33 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Manish Jain w= rote: > Jack L. wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Manish Jain >> wrote: >>> >>> Warren Block wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a >>>>> 'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* >>>> >>>> The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't >>>> installed. >>>> >>>>> Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. >>>>> Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes >>>>> returning >>>>> me to the console. >>>>> >>>>> Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be >>>>> appreciated. >>>> >>>> Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the >>>> requirements, >>>> then do startxfce4. >>>> >>>> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >>>> >>> I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the >>> same. >>> Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Eve= n >>> more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There >>> are >>> a few warnings though : >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon >>> 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme >>> was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. >>> You can get a copy from: >>> =C3=82 =C2=A0=C3=82 =C2=A0=C3=82 =C2=A0=C3=82 http://icon-theme.freedes= ktop.org/releases >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not >>> present >>> in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' n= ot >>> present in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-closetab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' not >>> present in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindo= w' >>> not present in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not >>> present >>> in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' n= ot >>> present in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon >>> 'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindo= w' >>> not present in theme >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid >>> non-instantiatable type `(null)' >>> >>> (Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect= : >>> assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed >>> >>> -- >> >> Try a make clean install clean and see if it still does that. Also, >> are your ports up to date? >> > > Hi Jack/Warren/All, > > I did : > > make deinstall > make clean > make install clean > > The results are the same. I downloaded ports.tar.gz last week, so I think > the ports should be fairly up2date. However, I would still greatly > appreciate it if somebody could send me an sh/bash script or command that > would demonstrate how to use cvsup to keep my ports directory up2date. Us= ing > cvs is one area which, thanks to my Linux heritage, is best rated as > ERROR_NONE You can use cvs. rm -rf your /usr/ports cd /usr cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.fr.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs co ports and then try installing the port you want to install. Also, rm -rf /var/db/ports/* to clear out the previous make options and see if you need to reconfigure some options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 20:10:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E0A10657B1 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EB68FC1D for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OKATYk026846; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:10:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0sCx-cqzzklW; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:09:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OK9fZS026828; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:09:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49C93E05.3000609@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:09:41 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Kukulies References: <49C919FC.2010901@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49C919FC.2010901@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpBB3, php5 and mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:10:39 -0000 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I'm in the process of moving a phpBB3 forum to a new machine (formerly > 5.2, now 7.1). > I also was so keen to move to php5 (was running php4 before, I believe). > > I have the phpBB3 forum directory copied back into the DocumentRoot. > Mysql 4.1 is running, The database is there, I can log in to mysql and > view the database. > I can get phpinfo. > > Only I can't get the hell out of the phpBB3 forum. When I invoke the > index.php > I get a blank page with an incomplete xml header. I have no idea were to > look at the moment. Wherever PHP places its errors? On my installations, it's /var/log/httpd_error_log. This might be configurable via PHP's ini file, or PHP's ini_set(), or from the system's syslog.conf ... not certain. > It looks a bit like php5 is not accessing the database (mysql) or > something. Is there some module > or driver to be compiled in? I installed php5 now from ports with the > apache mod_php5 module > being installed. PHP is great about telling what's wrong ... if it's configured to do so. Once you have an error message, it'll be easier to know how to fix it. Kevin Kinsey -- Ever wonder if taxation without representation might have been cheaper? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 20:14:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C2B10659AF for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9960E8FC18 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2OJvqm1020520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:58:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n2OJvpQP020518 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090324195751.GA20259@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9160/Tue Mar 24 12:50:40 2009 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: Subject: renaming many Chinese files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:14:03 -0000 I have hundreds of jpg images where each image is named P123****.jpg where the **** are chinese characters. I can't open the file - it has to be renamed before I can open it. Evening if I could open it I don't want the Chinese part as the name. Each file starts with 3 or four western characters and then has 3 or four chinese characters, before the western .jpg extension. I want to to test each filename character by character to see if it is western, and then when the first Chinese Character is found, have it simply rename the file to the 3 or four western-character name + .jpg I can write most of the script but I don't know how to test for western and/or Chinese characters. I could run a script that would simply rename all the files to a number in sequential order but I would rather use the existing starting name of the file if possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 21:03:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5381065670 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9848FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OL37VS019620; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:03:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OL372n019617; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:03:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:03:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Jack L." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:03:09 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Jack L. wrote: > You can use cvs. > rm -rf your /usr/ports > cd /usr > cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.fr.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs co ports > and then try installing the port you want to install. Why go to all that effort when you can just 'csup ports-supfile'? > Also, rm -rf /var/db/ports/* to clear out the previous make options > and see if you need to reconfigure some options. ITYM "irretrievably blow away every option setting for all of your installed ports". Which is pretty drastic advice when 'make rmconfig' will clear just one port's settings. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 21:19:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2592C1065673 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C108FC13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OLJ8CE019667; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:19:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OLJ8Sk019664; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:19:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:19:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manish Jain In-Reply-To: <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:19:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:19:10 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> >> Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the requirements, >> then do startxfce4. > > I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the same. > Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Even more > interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There are a few > warnings though : > > (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon > 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme > was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. That seems pretty compelling. Install /usr/ports/misc/hicolor-icon-theme. How you got the xfce4 installed without it is a question. portupgrade's pkgdb can you help you with missing dependencies like this. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 21:23:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5671065673 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688918FC0A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmE5W-0000IR-Ki; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:10 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2OLN8BY021977; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:09 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C7E23FCA699; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:03 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20090324212303.GA50697@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:23:16 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:05:05AM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Jack L. wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Manish Jain > >wrote: > >>Warren Block wrote: > >>>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > >>> > >>>>I am Gnome user just trying out xfce for fun. I did a > >>>>'make install clean' in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-?* > >>>The meta-port is just /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4, which you haven't > >>>installed. > >>> > >>>>Everything went well. When I did a startx, xfce4 came up nicely. > >>>>Everything seems ok, but when I click on Terminal/xterm, X crashes > >>>>returning > >>>>me to the console. > >>>> > >>>>Is there something missing or wrong in my setup ? Any help would be > >>>>appreciated. > >>>Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the requirements, > >>>then do startxfce4. > >>> > >>>-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > >>> > >>I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the same. > >>Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any hiccup. Even > >>more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome pretty well. There > >>are > >>a few warnings though : > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon > >>'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme > >>was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. > >>You can get a copy from: > >>    http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not > >>present > >>in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not > >>present in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-closetab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closetab' not > >>present in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' > >>not present in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-newtab' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newtab' not > >>present > >>in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-newwindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-newwindow' not > >>present in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon > >>'stock_terminal-closewindow' for stock: Icon 'stock_terminal-closewindow' > >>not present in theme > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid > >>non-instantiatable type `(null)' > >> > >>(Terminal:20866): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: > >>assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed > >> > >>-- > >Try a make clean install clean and see if it still does that. Also, > >are your ports up to date? > > > > Hi Jack/Warren/All, > > I did : > > make deinstall > make clean > make install clean > > The results are the same. I downloaded ports.tar.gz last week, so I > think the ports should be fairly up2date. However, I would still > greatly appreciate it if somebody could send me an sh/bash script or > command that would demonstrate how to use cvsup to keep my ports > directory up2date. Using cvs is one area which, thanks to my Linux > heritage, is best rated as ERROR_NONE > Manish, There's a make.conf and script on this page which might be of help in keeping your ports uptodate: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html When you've 'suped your ports, you'll notice that there is some stuff about xfce in /usr/ports/UPDATING. It might be related to your problems. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 21:33:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA7F1065768 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372A68FC31 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2OLXFKF019762; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:33:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2OLXFhS019759; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:33:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:33:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manish Jain In-Reply-To: <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> <49C935E9.5070303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:33:45 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > However, I would still greatly appreciate it if somebody could send me > an sh/bash script or command that would demonstrate how to use cvsup > to keep my ports directory up2date. Using cvs is one area which, > thanks to my Linux heritage, is best rated as ERROR_NONE Use csup: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html I use portupgrade, although many like portmaster instead. Here's how I update ports and check what's outdated: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/csup -4 /root/ports-supfile && portsdb -Fu && portversion -vL= -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 22:19:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A7106566C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C17C8FC14 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W44 ([64.4.61.144]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:07:58 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [201.212.199.195] From: Ramiro Caso To: , Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:07:57 -0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090324195751.GA20259@skytracker.ca> References: <20090324195751.GA20259@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 22:07:58.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD87C890:01C9ACCC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: renaming many Chinese files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:19:57 -0000 Just a very quick thought (the first that pops into my mind): you could see which are the western characters that appear in the names=2C and then use sed to substitute all non-matching characters with nothing=2C something like: for i in *.jpg=3B do b=3D"`echo $i | sed 's/[^CHAR_SET]//g'`"=3B mv $i $b= =3B done (without forgetting=2C obviously=2C to add . to the CHAR_SET=2C something like: [^a-zA-Z0-9.]=3B if you figure out a less clumsy way=2C please=2C share!!) I'm guessing that the initial 'P123' is just an example=2C or this will horribly backfire. But I'm really=2C REALLY=2C taking a shot in the dark here... (if you already thought of this=2C and it just doesn't work=2C sorry for the useless pitch) > Date: Tue=2C 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 > To: questions@freebsd.org > From: david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca > CC:=20 > Subject: renaming many Chinese files >=20 > I have hundreds of jpg images where each image is named P123****.jpg > where the **** are chinese characters. I can't open the file - it > has to be renamed before I can open it. Evening if I could open it > I don't want the Chinese part as the name. >=20 > Each file starts with 3 or four western characters and then has 3 or > four chinese characters=2C before the western .jpg extension. >=20 > I want to to test each filename character by character > to see if it is western=2C and then when the first Chinese Character is=20 > found=2C have it simply rename the file to the 3 or four western-characte= r=20 > name + .jpg >=20 > I can write most of the script but I don't know how to test for=20 > western and/or Chinese characters. > =20 > I could run a script that would simply rename all the files to=20 > a number in sequential order but I would rather use the existing > starting name of the file if possible. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" _________________________________________________________________ Encontr=E1 el auto de tus sue=F1os en MSN=20 http://xml.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/msn/autos.html= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 02:29:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80AB1065677 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D578FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so2036147waf.27 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1drIeEb1p21gMdpLOQjPQqjljNCv5P8t00fCynzaaK4=; b=C4ct4/a7DXF89PUJVhNFgU8VXzsQGgqzEUlxgek6E3KFj/We4/uw25rqfEjWdEwvVE vkYATeZEgeD3xrqVDgAZbBvYBfoybO9Y84qk127vypF3G8kZu6+UizpDldDlTCKGB1m9 wyIIQin5qAa/fugdyx1k8GPl4k8uQnBvuA1a0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=VsGLQ2OD7aVf2txjJf2JGg/oLjgoq9eY7oqZk4JxHPjdX61MElZtvS18SRuBhqMPgU y4o0tTVzamXSx9RPHWhIYSSccI2vqbvAgJX4zi/KmteC2QHM+z2ja+XTRL+S9QDCz+Tq 2tYUR3thr/GIShBQluE4tiD5vAxYh23ipRw10= Received: by 10.115.106.18 with SMTP id i18mr6074608wam.213.1237948157888; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.5.70? (c-68-35-6-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.6.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m29sm27521258poh.20.2009.03.24.19.29.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: Fbsd1 In-Reply-To: <49C5D3E6.6070807@a1poweruser.com> References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> <49C5D3E6.6070807@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:04:23 -0600 Message-Id: <1237701863.47868.2.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:19 -0000 On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 14:00 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > Tim Judd wrote: > > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, updated > > ports tree today. > > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > # make install > > # > > > > > > > > So what am i missing? > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html > > tells me to install this port. > > > > > > I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it to > > install... Retrying the above install every time. Nothing works. > > > > What to do? > > > > > > Thanks.... > > > it will take many many hours to compile. If you read more in handbook it > also says you can install the package version which should only take 30 > minutes. > > pkg_add -r xorg > that doesn't answer my original question. I'm not interested in your solution here, I want to build from source. And I can take the many hours, i'm setting up a machine before it's necessity and need to use it isn't now... Again, why doesn't the port install correctly? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 02:29:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3516106567C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07448FC1F for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2797732rvb.43 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9OaEn+6n2yfPCoYBaqRFngH6wdb8bdIs5ecKAA8Fcqg=; b=AQ7zCWpG1ht04WJrHglkyVyvfObZaPwodwJdUAQYyUgBThMUGbaowDm+H/FdhC7yxQ 00SK0eEAqC1PFzSfvRU1wLqdSii3l25pHmD6N84BosOwkz9VqQecNTPVnT+lhzVfAGyI 85wXiruv1oh24l5iw4aQ3+blkdXWW8kiwJT/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=HwO6UWOjURDBF7cSNbW44yOBrKCUCq7X/PZKI6ufYTuRU9jBN4XR9QH7S9HakNUOvq ONogKSRjxEa7eCJ9VoBnl9a+MbBczEcJeDcdAYoi2uki92l7M+6WG/IPWetX6HmTUka8 L+KuwIjbrsWuzFOpsTpHaQPeJY4smhSkLKnaw= Received: by 10.114.182.15 with SMTP id e15mr6103702waf.17.1237948160440; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.5.70? (c-68-35-6-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.6.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm28623847pog.22.2009.03.24.19.29.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: Neal Hogan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:29:35 -0600 Message-Id: <1237948175.14299.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:29:22 -0000 I worked around in circles again and again today with the same problem. My problem came down to that the Logitech keyboard/mouse combo (to single USB receiver) saw the keyboard (by hal) but not the mouse. Slapping a individual mouse in with the Logitech keyboard/mouse pair (so 1 keyboard, 2 mice) let the 2nd mouse work. So I don't think the hal has the concept of joining the keyboard and mouse together to a single usb device. The pair works beautifully in the console... so I'm not sure if this is a bug worthy of reporting, or if I should research it more and try to discover the solution with a logitech pair that is known to work in the console to work in hal. Thank you! $0.02 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 02:30:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5FF106567B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC148FC2D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bb-205-209-95-188.gwi.net [205.209.95.188]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2P1Cc1D067106 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Message-ID: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400 From: Harold Hartley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090302 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.21 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090324-0, 03/24/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:30:57 -0000 I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a freebsd choice. I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have to use windows for. I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to boot into when I want. I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always learning. Thanks Harold Hartley 158 Russell Street Lewiston, Maine 04240 wheelie207@gwi.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 02:43:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BA9106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93348FC2A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5710A3C876; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:43:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2P2hHXi002993; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:43:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:43:17 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Harold Hartley Message-Id: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:43:35 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to > install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm not sure I do understand "install FreeBSD on 'Windows'" - what does "on" refer to? a) Start an installer from within "Windows" that installs FreeBSD on the system b) Run FreeBSD within "Windows" by means of an emulator c) Run FreeBSD as an application in Windows In DOS times, there was a tool that booted Linux from within DOS. Because things are more complicated in "Windows", I don't think such a tool does exist - it would have to kick "Windows" out of memory, and we know that it doesn't like that. :-) But it's still possible to use FreeBSD without leaving "Windows". You need an emulator. I don't know how they are called in "Windows", but they do exist in FreeBSD as well, for example qemu. In "Windows", there's "VMWare" that you can buy. Using such a means of emulation, you can install FreeBSD on a "virtual PC" and then use it as it would run on "bare metal". > I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live > in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to > choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a > freebsd choice. Then you would need to install FreeBSD on this box. This is easily be done by downloading the proper ISO from the FTP server or FreeBSD's web page. See the excellent documentation in the handbook (on the web page, too) to learn how this is done. > I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have > read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to > run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to > be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to > boot into when I want. There's no need to think so complicated. You start the computer using the bootable CD or DVD, then install the OS (just as you installed Ubuntu) and then instruct your boot manager to add a new entry for FreeBSD. That's all. I hope I'm not saying anything incorrect, but to answer your main question: No, it's not possible to install FreeBSD in "Windows". What you want to achieve has nothing to do with "Windows", just ignore it. > I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a > linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always > learning. FreeBSD's documentation (the handbook and the FAQ, to be found on FreeBSD's web site) will help you to do so. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 02:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AC8106568D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735BC8FC26 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E82E3CB73; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:45:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2P2j1QJ003013; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:45:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:45:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090325034501.c5caff1d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1237948175.14299.6.camel@t60.local.zz> References: <1237948175.14299.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Neal Hogan Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:45:04 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:29:35 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > So I don't think the hal has the concept of joining the keyboard and > mouse together to a single usb device. The pair works beautifully in > the console... so I'm not sure if this is a bug worthy of reporting, or > if I should research it more and try to discover the solution with a > logitech pair that is known to work in the console to work in hal. Does the combination result in two devices (ukbd0, ums0)? Maybe it's possible to instruct HAL to use the devices explicitely, by "hard coding" them into some configuration file? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 03:20:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03AF1065674 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from exprod5og113.obsmtp.com (exprod5og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 513CA8FC1B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from source ([67.158.116.43]) by exprod5ob113.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKScmjE+T57nRPamOKdRA/XQ3W6TQ+D/W2@postini.com; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:20:52 PDT Received: (qmail 28731 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2009 22:54:10 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO junco.intranet.seamanpaper.com) (192.168.10.133) by buster.seamanpaper.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2009 22:54:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 45706 invoked by uid 0); 25 Mar 2009 02:54:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.88?) (192.168.10.88) by 192.168.10.133 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 02:54:07 -0000 Message-ID: <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:53:31 -0400 From: Jeff Dickens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070102070701010503070802" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@seamanpaper.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:20:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070102070701010503070802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Modulok wrote: > List, > > I have been tasked with getting a DSL connection across about 10km of > no-man's-land to a rural location without internet access. Ideally, > all traffic inbetween the two directional antennas would be encrypted. > (Nice, but not entirely required.) 3Mb/s would be great! Something > like: > > LAN<->BSDrouter<->modem<->Antenna<~~air~~>Antenna<->modem<->DSL > > I'm looking for general pointers of both hardware and software to > achieve this. One option: gnswireless.com We have a couple of short-haul wireless setups from them. They work out of the box, and they seem to provide good support as well. > I'd like to employ FreeBSD as much as is feasible. This > is my first WAN network project, so even newbie pointers and general > references would be much appreciated. (Hardware suggestions, books to > read, etc.) Reliability is of mild concern, simply because I don't > want to drive 10km at 3:00am when something breaks. > > Tips? References? Advice? > -Modulok- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________________ Scanned by Google Message Security - Leaving Seaman Paper --------------070102070701010503070802-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 03:22:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3849310656D3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8ED8FC08 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB30B3CAC8 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:22:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2P3MB0r013334 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:22:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:22:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090325042211.a628aa98.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:22:20 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:59:40 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > Ubuntu uses "wubi > installer" like an application and can be uninstalled if anyone didn't > like it. And it sets it up at the boot up time a list to choose from. > > That is about what I was talking about. Okay, I do understand. I haven't used any MICROS~1 products yet, and I've installed Ubuntu just from its CD or DVD for testing purposes, but I'm not a Linux user, so I definitely don't have much experience in this sector. > I'm not sure how they did that using the "wubi installer" But if freebsd > could do something like that, it would be great. Hmmm... I may still ask: What should it be good for, exactly? Those who want to use FreeBSD usually install it by one of the standard means. They usually don't have "Windows" or do already want to use a two-or-more-OS system, but they don't run the installer from within "Windows". (Side note: I think there's already a tool that lets you install FreeBSD from within Linux, useful if you want to replace an already pre-loaded OS on a server where you don't have physical access to simply put in the FreeBSD installation CD.) Those who want to try FreeBSD don't install it, they run it from a live system CD (e. g. FreeSBIE) or use it in an emulator (and install it there). Furthermore, there's VirtualBSD: http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for maximum "Windows" compatibility. :-) > But will it over write the bootup list or the windows or ubuntu > software. No. At installation time, you can instruct it to leave the boot area of your hard disk untouched. The only thing you may need is to put a setting into the boot manager you're using at the moment to boot between Ubuntu and "Windows" so it can also boot into FreeBSD. Maybe your boot manager automatically detects the new OS and adds a choice by itself. You can, however, use FreeBSD's boot manager to make the boot selection at system startup. Everything you need is some disk space on your hard disk (not occupied by any slice, "partition" how it's called by "Windows"). The installer allows you to delete anything existing (what you don't need anymore) and create a slice to install FreeBSD in. You can also install it on another (physical) hard disk. > Or does freebsd offer a choice to install without messing > anything up. It's a professional operating system, of course it does. :-) (FreeBSD exactly does what you tell it to do, nothing more and nothing less.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 03:37:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E750A106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685D68FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2P3XKMf093771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:20 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n2P3b125092026; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:37:01 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:37:01 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> (message from Jeff Dickens on Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:53:31 -0400) References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:37:06 -0000 Hi, > I have been tasked with getting a DSL connection across about 10km of > no-man's-land to a rural location without internet access. Ideally, > all traffic inbetween the two directional antennas would be encrypted. > (Nice, but not entirely required.) 3Mb/s would be great! Something > like: > > LAN<->BSDrouter<->modem<->Antenna<~~air~~>Antenna<->modem<->DSL > > I'm looking for general pointers of both hardware and software to > achieve this. > I'd like to employ FreeBSD as much as is feasible. This > is my first WAN network project, so even newbie pointers and general > references would be much appreciated. (Hardware suggestions, books to > read, etc.) Reliability is of mild concern, simply because I don't > want to drive 10km at 3:00am when something breaks. > > Tips? References? Advice? We have something of the sort runing between a Thai university and the National University of Laos. Purpose is to connect the Lao University to the Thai university and research network. Expected speed is 10Mbps. You can email me personnally at the end of April, then I will be able to give you more details :) I will not go to Laos before one month, until then I cannot remember the brand of the radio equipment. National University of Laos used to have their network with remote campus locations build over air, using public grade WiFi access-points, they were not really stable. Regarding your set-up, I think it is nothing different from: LAN<->BSDrouter<-1->DSL only the link between the BDSrouter and the DSL provider is a bit longer. On your concern about traveling 10KM at 3:00, you can locate the BSDrouter at either end of the radio link, it will not change much of the volume of traffic crossing the radio link, unless the BSDrouter is also doing some heavy proxying. So you could locate the BSDrouter at the closest end to your home. Only one remark, if that BSDrouter is to serve as DHCP and such, it is best located at the LAN end: if the radio link goes down, the clients on the LAN can still access their DHCP server, and they can still communicate inside the LAN. If the BSDrouter is located at the DSL end and the radio link goes down, the clients in the LAN will not manage to get IP and will not be able to communicate among eachothers. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 03:40:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C0106566C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F74D8FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2364262bwz.43 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:40:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=q7lwrssZivLn9vNWAo8ho5QPZ48eiOCUQw4qRNQYPG8=; b=XyEtNsaYrg0sDiQaTG5+AmIZwDPnhhngJU9Ue+c8tEjKCiDICq1Wz0+KVm23fHbjPE WXxea665qgXD7zuqXeN7sadkrOWXT0eBkIe1wheaD3fen47igPm5SlGdpcPi4Lrvfwau xSclh1dYXPQib7UsqGxnUs5jTOct6BpTcO2us= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=eP0YvfwqDQ6JhX0XpQzEQ1ghu6OwOkGqRFEy7XxReHq9tFDx29/wEUj4BktbwOVwm1 KrXm++AKWx6agfbcl2W3QOM1E8SE5+nhcoioaxworK1C+n1NkfSKDzZoIqZ7iYPc9agm g/SDKu12hCx55oQOl/ideQoe29nSCHk8K1jSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.55.199 with SMTP id v7mr3175058bkg.141.1237952426468; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:40:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:40:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Harold Hartley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:40:28 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Harold Hartley wrote: > I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to > install on windows like ubuntu does. > > In www.microsoft.com , search Virtual PC in Search Microsoft.com . There will be a result among many others : http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/97a74f0e-798d-45ff-b9bf-7feed68c40e51033.mspx Virtual PC is free of charge . If you can install Virtual PC ( any of them suitable to your hardware and Windows version ) you may try to use FreeBSD . Personally I did not try it . Good luck to you . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 03:59:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58131106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E032C8FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0DA16C0069; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:59:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2P3xBMI013729; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:59:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:59:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Harold Hartley Message-Id: <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:59:19 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:30:58 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > Some may be running windows and may want to try freebsd and doesn't want > to rid windows. > But if something could be done to make it easy enough for those that > doesn't know how to install freebsd or something of that sort. I think the FreeBSD documentation makes it easy enough. :-) NBo, honestly: It's so easy, simply put in the CD and follow the instructions on the screen. There's no black magic involved. > I know how to install linux to a drive without other OS's on it and I > know how to use the command line to install or setup other apps like > flash or java and other apps that need other commands. > > But I'm sure others are not familiar with using the command line and > such for installing a OS. But then, FreeBSD surely isn't for them. For those users, PC-BSD and DesktopBSD are much better ways to go. They do still have a functional FreeBSD OS, but the installer is with nice graphics and guides them through a "next, next, next, next, next, reboot" procedure as they know it from "Windows". If you want to have a look at it, these are the homepages: PC-BSD ===> http://www.pcbsd.org/ DesktopBSD ===> http://www.desktopbsd.net/ And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes "Windows" users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, then click "next, next, next, finish" and have an application installed. :-) > I really am interested in freebsd, but I don't want to mess up my OS's > on my drive either. You don't need to be frightened of that. In order to wipe off something you still need, you will have to be VERY stupid. :-) FreeBSD provides means that warn you if you're accidentally doing something wrong. But please keep in mind that FreeBSD relies on the circumstance that IF you instruct it to do something, you're SURE that you want to do so. Everything you need is some free space on the disk. Anything else keeps unmodified. > My main interest is wanting to learn how to develop code on linux and/or > freebsd. Then you won't encounter any problems. As a Linux user, you're already equipped with basic UNIX knowledge that will help you to understand FreeBSD. > If I had a second drive on my computer, could I install freebsd on the > 2nd drive and still select it from the boot list Of course. As I mentioned, your boot manager will have to know about the new OS, either by you (putting the correct information into it) or by itself (autodetection of a second hard disk with a valid boot block). > Maybe I should take this to the other topic of the mailing list. > I noticed you CC to the freebsd-questions list. Is that the list I need > to continue my questions on. Yes. I think it's okay to CC the list because our conversation may be helpful to others. I'm not intending something evil. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 04:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2829F1065674 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4D58FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2P4aQrd051259; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:36:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:36:26 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20090324212406.A42F4106567C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090325151645.I95588@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090324212406.A42F4106567C@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_php5 and apache22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:36:41 -0000 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:46:16 +0100 Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 03:20:26PM +0100, Mel Flynn typed: > > On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:13:33 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > I moved a site from some FreeBSD 5.2 or something (with apache2 and > > > mod_php5 at that time, > > > about 3 years old) to 7.1 (Beta though) and apache22. > > > > > > Now I don't find something that looks like mod_php5 in /usr/ports/www. > > > > > > Has that changed somehow? > > > > lang/php5 with APACHE_MODULE ticked in options dialog. > > The apache module compile is off by default since somewhere in 2006 and I keep > forgetting that occasionally :( > So people using pkg_add -r php5 will not get mod_php5. That's right, you haven't been able able to install mod_php5 from a package for at least that long. I've never understood the rationale. > This is probably not what they expected. I could well be wrong, but I've always suspected that _most_ people who install apache (1.3 or 2.x) and php do so because they intend to use it with mod_php, rather than the command-line php interpreter or the cgi. > Would it not be a good idea to (re)introduce www/mod_php5? Yes. As far as I can tell, all that would be required is an identical port (with a new name, '+mod_php' would do fine) with the ONLY change being to select the APACHE_MODULE option on, as Mel points out. I wish someone who knows about ports building would just do that. Then you could again install apache+mod_php from packages, right from the dist CDs/DVD if desired. Ah, for the good old days when it wasn't assumed that everyone had both fast boxes and fast net connections :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 05:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE7C106568D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1938D8FC0C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC915E2F2; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:29:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.421 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gMMad58Gse7R; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:29:47 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87915E01E; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:29:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:29:47 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harold Hartley References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:29:56 -0000 Harold Hartley skrev: > I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to > install on windows like ubuntu does. > > I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live > in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to > choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a > freebsd choice. > > I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have > to use windows for. > > I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have > read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to > run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to > be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to > boot into when I want. > > I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a > linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always > learning. > > Thanks > Harold Hartley > 158 Russell Street > Lewiston, Maine 04240 > wheelie207@gwi.net For testing purposes I've used Suns VirtualBox under Windows, it runs under Linux as well. (Free)BSD installs well and it can give you a first impression on how it works. There are some settings that you must keep in mind, disk size can't be dynamic. You can use the VirtualBox forums for more information. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 06:00:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B843106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0B78FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2301457tia.3 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:00:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zi/BWKtgqG7Th9QmGFpbBfNWxSIeTWE5jIQwG/PWmRw=; b=dVJVmWUBUL4Rp8D4OcyO2KbM7yv7xOCqL/Cyg4uWT9ZOGYhSZZgQYxaWSLCKtod0ab jmK+Rvp+MLbguorSJjg9Z5vY5TqA6iIvILkxLTuFDNcSQkJT9DrVHV6Ga4GCrUrTXcae tFlyBzPECw2b9qyPtVEiXZDEZMfTwVRJMm4Xg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vCJeLOjeYP5dsFMlt/oWRrvPCPUyBBvreKIaPwq0S/0Omk5hy2pU/49xT/BIfjpLj8 XN+jT37lIcyj9y3hKzm17LIJ2zgWkOfNvcQ41bobjOCiem79cL9BoPunX5biejXrO/En CBVFS/+KGZFshCdmDNlUz+VE4pZp6aknK7BIQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:30:31 +0530 Received: by 10.110.7.5 with SMTP id 5mr13815701tig.39.1237960846395; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mehul Ved To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:00:48 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > For testing purposes I've used Suns VirtualBox under Windows, it runs under > Linux as well. (Free)BSD installs well and it can give you a first > impression on how it works. There are some settings that you must keep in > mind, disk size can't be dynamic. You can use the VirtualBox forums for more > information. > /Leslie VirtualBox is really great for no-hassles virtualisation for newbies. I rely on it too. But, I haven't had a good experience with FreeBSD 7.0 on VirtualBox, too many kernel panics. And it's not just me there are lots of people who have had the same problem with no evident solution. I am not discouraging this solution but informing of a problem that I have faced. If there's a work around for that, I'd be happy to try it myself. -- Am I SHOPLIFTING? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 06:09:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AAB106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.koinange@ke.wananchi.com) Received: from zmta03.wananchi.com (zmta03.wananchi.com [62.8.88.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292CE8FC33 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.koinange@ke.wananchi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zmta03.wananchi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1DD358155; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:53:40 +0300 (EAT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zmta03.wananchi.com Received: from zmta03.wananchi.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmta03.wananchi.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ffB-G4ciLQo; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:53:40 +0300 (EAT) Received: from zmbs02.wananchi.com (zmbs02.wananchi.com [62.8.88.29]) by zmta03.wananchi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F16E358143; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:53:40 +0300 (EAT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:45:44 +0300 (EAT) From: Peter Koinange To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <19418248.61237960056299.JavaMail.KHOI-LAPTOP$@khoi-laptop> In-Reply-To: <1237701863.47868.2.camel@t60.local.zz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [62.8.88.25] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4 (Yahoo! Zimbra Desktop/1.0_1513_Windows) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 Subject: Re: installing ports xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Koinange List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:09:51 -0000 Tim, Looks like perhaps your ports tree is bad, I suggest you install the full ports tree and try and build from source k ----- "Tim Judd" wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 14:00 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > > Tim Judd wrote: > > > I'm getting ZERO feedback when I install the xorg metaport, > updated > > > ports tree today. > > > > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > > # make install > > > # > > > > > > > > > > > > So what am i missing? > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-install.html > > > tells me to install this port. > > > > > > > > > I even deleted /var/db/pkg/* and /var/db/ports/* to try to hook it > to > > > install... Retrying the above install every time. Nothing > works. > > > > > > What to do? > > > > > > > > > Thanks.... > > > > > it will take many many hours to compile. If you read more in > handbook it > > also says you can install the package version which should only take > 30 > > minutes. > > > > pkg_add -r xorg > > > > that doesn't answer my original question. I'm not interested in your > solution here, I want to build from source. > > And I can take the many hours, i'm setting up a machine before it's > necessity and need to use it isn't now... > > > Again, why doesn't the port install correctly? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 06:36:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CFC106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7A38FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1860536yxm.13 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EH7fMpJFKUnpNo17Ix7zQiDgB9e+2aUuf2CQv4JHEOs=; b=wZKpvQxknrpqN9w1/7ItJMULN/zldioZJqzZUeV/PGQuAhCHdcjdUqpwEknISAKmdw QztTT8NWiL3RWe1QJHhz6Vj8eVmZ50U9OQhmGomlM80+P/46c0OHD3x/XJm718Aftbc4 XSmc50gBA0kO8n3mWvlhG4t6SC2HKq/mtSjSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=xaybrWe7qE+pCJYUJi3KleJhddBBXCPnJnduE4QCU8aYAJKnWqwrXnmjiKM/qOIG14 N8ztpLwhfJ+/fYTYVAYdvZ7XNsuu0Jxh5Cog2lDDbFxG0/2POexki1Q96lErvcYUn7vk zOUzabDeCpF9JifTsiyD/2vvzS263xB16+eug= Received: by 10.142.77.11 with SMTP id z11mr3766156wfa.277.1237962971702; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.5.70? (c-68-35-6-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.6.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm15198573wfi.32.2009.03.24.23.36.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:36:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090325034501.c5caff1d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1237948175.14299.6.camel@t60.local.zz> <20090325034501.c5caff1d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:36:28 -0600 Message-Id: <1237962988.33722.6.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Neal Hogan Subject: Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:36:13 -0000 On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 03:45 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:29:35 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > > So I don't think the hal has the concept of joining the keyboard and > > mouse together to a single usb device. The pair works beautifully in > > the console... so I'm not sure if this is a bug worthy of reporting, or > > if I should research it more and try to discover the solution with a > > logitech pair that is known to work in the console to work in hal. s/single usb device/single usb plug/ > > Does the combination result in two devices (ukbd0, ums0)? Maybe > it's possible to instruct HAL to use the devices explicitely, by > "hard coding" them into some configuration file? Yes, FreeBSD/devd/devfs had created a kbd0 and ums0 HAL just didn't seem to recognize ums0 being listed too.. maybe because before it setup kbd0, ums0 appeared and it just got left behind? maybe because it already linked kbd0 to the plug/jack it was plugged into, it ignored the second device (this case, the mouse)? I even tried (by of course powerdown first) the USB+Mouse PS2 plug (both as original plug onto the Logitech pair) in case it might have picked up the PS2 and let it run with that --- it didn't find the PS2 mouse (by "found" I mean Xorg adding/enabling that device so the cursor moves). I was more concerned today (@work) to get my desktop operational. I can try later to diagnose, pick apart, etc etc the flaws of dbus and/or hal to submit a report. I felt it was necessary to announce this shortcoming, in case the OP was trying to use the same kind of device. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 06:50:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B417B10656C2 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808AD8FC28 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3321269wfg.7 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:50:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O40WszeJQ29vszk4o/9wP6KG6S+GffOORs4efZowBQk=; b=i2SdYuUzVM4LNqCvnJkJtGXM50kLm6vT0/ffkKcvWYR/VdKbGWj5sTbYqx06PBprfs oBlgBAU6RmxkGif2j/sy/c4EKpjUU1m7EnwreqfkGgiSsUr5HXI/Vdw9aUmLRhVMkIFq ePz1STMCnooIVyPee9ZFNVpDztNt/iGFE5vRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=S51iuVG8kKOfOXGqLxuwGAaEuT8UDlsKKO/ZvRluW1gCNK8DSD/jO/A0SRBIKMlqHH jjjk0KQdP3cYav2uJXn9BY6QRP2YsIP5JA1PSF19Lw1eAZagDsOHpA7jPqE16hsoCAtN S0lB/AxpyF+mdhRnXqzC34lEondW57yrUitss= Received: by 10.143.30.2 with SMTP id h2mr3777686wfj.160.1237963824081; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.5.70? (c-68-35-6-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.6.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm15165196wff.7.2009.03.24.23.50.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200903231418.00491.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <1237688408.46760.6.camel@t60.local.zz> <4ad871310903212304j2e7fea6dve110380de02c97c4@mail.gmail.com> <200903231418.00491.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:50:47 -0600 Message-Id: <1237963847.33722.14.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installing ports xorg - Unknown solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:50:26 -0000 Heh, there were too many factors as possible culprits in the system. Glen Barber's command started to run, until I cancelled it when my laptop battery died... :D I'm not 100% sure what the problem was, but here's what I did... . The PC has a msk ethernet device, which I wasn't 100% sold I'd use it, . It's also behind a Linux-based firewall (corporate purchase) that ... doesn't always want to work, . I re-csup'd ports, it updated some stuff, but nothing in x11/ . I forgot it for the weekend, went into work, slapped it onto our other network (which isn't behind the Linux firewall), and initiated an install.. it started . Keeping it on the other network, I finished xorg, then installed kde4 with repeated fetch timeouts on both installs. . Remembered I had a broadcom ethernet card... installed it. . Finished installing everything, and is now my primary desktop at work. So, either the bad csup, odd msk ethernet, or the (VERY fustrating) Linux firewall was at fault. Not sure what, but all is working now. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 06:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E531065676; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874FB8FC2A; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01906; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:15:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-93-104-45-19.dynamic.mnet-online.de(93.104.45.19) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma001900; Wed, 25 Mar 09 07:15:44 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n2P6PKkX003813; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:25:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:25:20 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090325062520.GA3623@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: kuriyama@freebsd.org Subject: ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp (CURRENT) failes on make install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:52:43 -0000 Hi, # cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp # cvs update ? work cvs update: Updating . cvs update: Updating files cvs update: Updating patches.aout # make install ... installing sysv.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system installing ultrix4.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system installing dragonfly.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system creating directory /usr/local/include/net-snmp/machine installing generic.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/machine making installlibs in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1/snmplib /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile cc -I../include -I. -I../snmplib -DNETSNMP_ENABLE_IPV6 -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Ufreebsd8 -Dfreebsd8=freebsd8 -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE -c -o mib.lo mib.c cc -I../include -I. -I../snmplib -DNETSNMP_ENABLE_IPV6 -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Ufreebsd8 -Dfreebsd8=freebsd8 -DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE -c mib.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mib.o ../include/net-snmp/library/data_list.h:75: error: nested function 'netsnmp_get_list_node' declared but never defined ../include/net-snmp/library/data_list.h:60: error: nested function 'netsnmp_create_data_list' declared but never defined *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1/snmplib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp. Any ideas? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 07:00:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B551065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347918FC1C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1867635ywh.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:00:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=QSQABF88xKPZCh9SQXzLcZU5/B3Nsb6O3EHlVv/Pm28=; b=apJW6L2eadrjS9YtpLnm4PqLOL+LvV4U89yWdAL2w7MpMlQsQu2WmNp3sLSHMqWPUq hGhiuoDk9/bWTuEVZLOAfzQZ9CbIh9Ls4JMRoGoq+Vpa9QMYAj6UvSO91cQvmKAXZFiA ELydC9vrJfl+H0gA/6BVe2o1AONGhnaE0qsGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=gQXS1/cMG+W+gKOGJdxonNsyJBUjwTeb+83ryx5lNyaXw/P7xfCvlOuu8qVSNSZKrL TDZSRm+ODZYKiropCqKrw9VPIDj+8/vqJe7CK1tQGldR3Ew2pnCE6vuMW8FG+IgnJ3Dg Qcdp4vxr4gqYnvcuvnuGHx4mmvZ0PH9ZSUmts= Received: by 10.90.75.13 with SMTP id x13mr5354500aga.102.1237964455556; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.206? ([189.123.213.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm11383922aga.38.2009.03.25.00.00.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:59:52 -0300 Message-Id: <1237964392.4294.19.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:00:56 -0000 Hello..... ! used to make wireless links too and my best experiences are: ADSL<->MODEM (bridge mode) <==>|switch| <===> Freebsd with pppoe,nat,ipfw || || wireless ====(----------------------10km---------) wireless <====>switch || || || users....... Freebsd is a small machine (celeron, P2, P3....) 256mb memory, 4gb or more disk 1 ethernet Software on FreeBSD ppp using bridge mode (I supose your adsl is pppoe) man ppp the adsl mode is configured to work in bridge mode and as you see , is connect in the switch together with the freebsd and the wireless bridge.... Wireless bridge..... this is the trick point of the project... After searching and testing various radios/swithes.. I deciced for the airlive 5460 ap2 http://www.airlive.com configure both ap in bridge with WDS enable and 21db of output power.... Antennas: the radios must use a small pigtail and be as near as possible to the antenna... I build the antennas using a project canantenna http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html the two points must be visual, that is: in one point you must see the other, beware with water (lakes, flat fields...) between the points stay away from trees... put the antennas at about 6m from the soil... 10km... You must try, I have one link in 7km here... with good performance.. in severel clients (10 clients)... about 3mbits... the radios costs about 45 dollars each, the pigtail is 5dollars, the antenna is about 5 dollars each the swithes is about 20 dollars each... Should work. Hope I could help... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 09:04:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36BA1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030EF8FC21 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2P94rOS048365; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:04:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n2P94qwo048364; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:04:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:04:52 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Mehul Ved Message-ID: <20090325090452.GA48145@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Mehul Ved , Leslie Jensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:04:56 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley , Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:04:59 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30:31AM +0530, Mehul Ved typed: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > For testing purposes I've used Suns VirtualBox under Windows, it runs under > > Linux as well. (Free)BSD installs well and it can give you a first > > impression on how it works. There are some settings that you must keep in > > mind, disk size can't be dynamic. You can use the VirtualBox forums for more > > information. > > /Leslie > > VirtualBox is really great for no-hassles virtualisation for newbies. > I rely on it too. But, I haven't had a good experience with FreeBSD > 7.0 on VirtualBox, too many kernel panics. And it's not just me there > are lots of people who have had the same problem with no evident > solution. > I am not discouraging this solution but informing of a problem that I > have faced. If there's a work around for that, I'd be happy to try it > myself. What worked for me was enabling VT-x/AMD-V in Virtualbox. No more panics since. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 09:08:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C571065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A798FC1D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2378286tia.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:08:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SLV22Un3AnbxQ9Kx8kWn0mqKc122OA8ywgik8RUh7KM=; b=AGVJifk3O1LZu0sREStanvHbOeb8DMkSekXOxf49oWbjzdvcgLX0fSfF5kn28NnLzS 26bm/aUzWATnPYt1yVAMfi6rWHS+tduYxXPBRnbHd4FADXepRT2qCU1sIQMMmGvDYFmh 6Esz02+WixWSg+YG31piSJRQD3Bquu4G8RK5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmr2Ribl/B8/Yvn4UnC2m9GkkQ79DUejqZNYi51Aikki8bdaP0yI6NMyv1/mZ4KwGt I2Zb0v35bdAMw+Gk3J2orhxlw3dlYlKuuCiiLl8mkVJ5ICJ+0WCcyVFpRRKAGRD00HSh EeMj5nmDJlq4TjRpXnryVw2Ax+uMrDSb+lGy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090325090452.GA48145@ei.bzerk.org> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> <20090325090452.GA48145@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:38:00 +0530 Received: by 10.110.62.1 with SMTP id k1mr14083911tia.38.1237972095452; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mehul Ved To: Ruben de Groot , Mehul Ved , Leslie Jensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:08:17 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Ruben de Groot wrote: > What worked for me was enabling VT-x/AMD-V in Virtualbox. No more panics since. If I am correct, that requires hardware with virtualisation support. That's not the case with my old P4. -- Am I SHOPLIFTING? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 09:44:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF651065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3358FC19 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so3068250rvb.43 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:44:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6eYcdwtkNGrEkhei83tBe9WXqmU4HIcoGHOxrwMJWpo=; b=XiPJdzXrjOq3OyKV04MneQP2nThfCm2YkZc6eAePcw1gcz6engQlZEjkAcw6PJH0nJ /+MrfiAKBkIaxs1Cz84e3ZvO3F8RYvYSLbi0gXo2EAOCN71jv0TeQo3lVd9AJIGHnMgr oAEWUfF96ocZ604xSzvW6atKy4WzTdq35GpzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rDPghh3bGqBw26GLJclfQcX87FdnW87Sc0DfMV4W/lO2SLJjoXnAvMM/mAyxuy2Elh AE0BtebkoYFMOKXlxUz0OAN6l2Z8f1Wltd9CsEMhf3nEiXxTu+0Cu3DY/TZCFLX+cmMD pcN6LuzUdbomZDLVWu0MidcSUah8qfJQ1e1O4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1237973499.14735.6.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <49C9C14B.1050806@eskk.nu> <20090325090452.GA48145@ei.bzerk.org> <1237973499.14735.6.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:14:14 +0530 Received: by 10.142.139.14 with SMTP id m14mr3842147wfd.159.1237974270035; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mehul Ved To: bruce@yoafrica.com, Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:44:32 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Bruce Anthony Grobler wrote: > As long as you have enough ram ( I'd say at least a gig) try VMware Server > 1.1/2.0. I have production machines (including two freebsd 7.1 vm's) running > on a VMware Server 2.0 working very well with the host having 3 gigs of ram, I do have 1.5GB of RAM. Will consider trying it on VMWare or maybe if I can get less lazy, nothing like installing it on hard disk. -- Am I SHOPLIFTING? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 09:56:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768681065701 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C588FC28 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.174.124]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:55:39 -0700 Message-ID: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:55:50 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2009 09:55:39.0712 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA77C400:01C9AD2F] Subject: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0000 I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. What is the mount command to use? Thinking mount /dev/ad1 /mnt but un-sure how this handles the 6.1 slices on that HD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 10:23:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5241065675 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840918FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PAN97N031147; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:23:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PAN8tF031144; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:23:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:23:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Harold Hartley In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:23:19 -0000 > install on windows like ubuntu does. FreeBSD is separate independent OS. it simply doesn't make sense. > > I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a > nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I what a problem to create partition for FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 10:24:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCD410656BB for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE8E8FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PAOekG031160; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:24:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PAOdmD031157; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:24:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:24:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090325042211.a628aa98.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325042211.a628aa98.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:24:54 -0000 > >> Or does freebsd offer a choice to install without messing >> anything up. > > It's a professional operating system, of course it does. :-) > (FreeBSD exactly does what you tell it to do, nothing more and > nothing less.) > maybe that's why it's told to be so difficult for most people ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 10:27:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C124C1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF8F8FC1C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PAQtb1031171; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:26:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PAQtNr031168; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:26:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:26:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Harold Hartley Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:27:07 -0000 > > PC-BSD ===> http://www.pcbsd.org/ > DesktopBSD ===> http://www.desktopbsd.net/ > > And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes "Windows" > users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, > then click "next, next, next, finish" and have an application > installed. :-) even more - it's even as slow and messy as windows. no idea about stability - possibly it's better. personally - i've tried once PC-BSD, removed it one hour after installing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 11:02:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F211065670 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFA478FC17 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27625 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2009 11:02:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=6j7XRTILnJjelyyMH1d1jKa64P9iAWIfLBlm4XxXl8Zpuqc9eLAHPIDodDNN5ov8hH+Fp8Y9paMfgioVXjr5sgz7pxKIn8C2q+d/btd4FI6dRZt0It5YJgof5k2h5zpTPW+sBxHDFxG1sDqM86p4wa3MUVrZaWrr2MHkwce7Mvs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 11:02:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6PmdUhoVM1nmU0.GRX8hMgBD8unLP7Tztm43FlfEpb6O2R_mqbFZYj528RLzUkArdCPgd9gZ_6xhwHZRniET45aJUnSppoDf0ePtXGIWp4NX3NfvgZQW5HaXJcaW0kamHtsIsiBjRwpZ.DyJLEZSiQp8qyy4AE7o75oMsBrYqDPSMXHDcZaQ5YfvED7cjiDIvGyFSZrcnPJU3_JhDkMdhCtENHp41KoC4CbAGXSvH.8UoysfkPBzkZbk3sUonYf2udWaU.aWxco_1zI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:02:23 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090325070223.181e02b9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/cqliiAtxq3JuFtNMsLS+Mzw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:34 -0000 --Sig_/cqliiAtxq3JuFtNMsLS+Mzw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400 Harold Hartley wrote: >I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd >to install on windows like ubuntu does. > >I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I >live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer >to choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and >maybe a freebsd choice. > >I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have=20 >to use windows for. > >I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have=20 >read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able >to=20 > run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love > to=20 >be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to=20 >boot into when I want. > >I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not >a linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always=20 >learning. If you are interested in using a virtual machine, these two URLs might prove useful. http://www.microsoft.com/virtualization/default.mspx?WT.mc_id=3D13E48F94-88= 2A-43DB-9ED5-BBC184D75FC7&WT.srch=3D1&mode=3D1&CR_ID=3D-1&CR_TC=3D9OSUHTJXB= B2LNZC http://vpc.visualwin.com/index.aspx FreeBSD is fully supported according to the documentation. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult. R. S. Barton --Sig_/cqliiAtxq3JuFtNMsLS+Mzw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknKD0cACgkQBvaKIJWWCO2FDgCfTmZ3/b1OTvkLfQ9FdEX82/c/ MtcAnitU6TtdbzmMnBaHZLCKp6hCeaLO =218L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/cqliiAtxq3JuFtNMsLS+Mzw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 11:38:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC17106567F for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2AC58FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 86331 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2009 14:11:48 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 14:11:48 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 5.0, engine: 5.00.0.12182, virus records: 513835, updated: 23.03.2009] Message-ID: <49CA1167.4070604@itlegion.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:11:35 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: 3ware 8006-2lp hang with ACPI enabled on fbsd-6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:38:32 -0000 Hello! I have something strange here. I had a pretty old (5 y.o) network server with mirror raid on 3WARE 8006-2LP running FreeBSD 5.3. memory or mb started to fail periodically, so the server was upgraded to Asus P5Q MB. Everything was fine. Then i decided to upgrade to 6.4-STABLE. After upgrade the machines just locked up after kernel boot is complete and daemons started to load. I have tried many times: sometimes i see PCI parity error from twe driver. Something i don't see any message at all, the machines just freezes. I tried changing pci slot, playing with BIOS settings - no luck. Then i just booted with ACPI disables and everything worked fine! I tried disabling parts of ACPI with debug.acpi loader options, but if i disable "bus" and "pci" the loader cannot load the kernel and all other options do not help. The firmware on the raid controller is the latest available (dec 2007). Can anyone explain, why everything worked fine on 5.4 and locks up on 6.4? I am upgrading the box to 7.1-STABLE now via cvs. -- Regards, Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 12:09:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06D11065712 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1538FC0C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.152] (nb-rs-valinho.critical.pt [192.168.1.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBD022846B; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:09:33 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49CA1EF0.4060708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:09:20 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:09:44 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD > containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. > > What is the mount command to use? > > Thinking mount /dev/ad1 /mnt but un-sure how this handles the 6.1 > slices on that HD. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Read up http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html, namely entries 9.1 and 9.2. Very detailed and helpful stuff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 12:31:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C91106566C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0708FC19 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PCVEmN031409; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PCVEEF031406; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Artem Kuchin In-Reply-To: <49CA1167.4070604@itlegion.ru> Message-ID: References: <49CA1167.4070604@itlegion.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware 8006-2lp hang with ACPI enabled on fbsd-6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:24 -0000 > > Can anyone explain, why everything worked fine on 5.4 and locks up on 6.4? > > I am upgrading the box to 7.1-STABLE now via cvs. and it will probably fix your problems as ACPI support is constantly improved == more workarounds are added for buggy ACPI bioses > > -- > Regards, > Artem > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 12:33:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEAA106567A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355A08FC1D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PCWW71031420; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:32:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PCWUeu031417; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:32:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:32:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1237964392.4294.19.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Message-ID: References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <1237964392.4294.19.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:33:01 -0000 > 10km... You must try, I have one link in 7km here... with good > performance.. > in severel clients (10 clients)... about 3mbits... > > the radios costs about 45 dollars each, the pigtail is 5dollars, the > antenna is about 5 dollars each it's really worth to spent at least 50$ for each antenna to be sure it will be stable at 10km with huge margins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 12:35:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC099106579B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6F8FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so7873fge.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:35:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5D1PdJI61OpX55mS921JhZCdT/tbW/b0mrj6M4+8YEI=; b=NvSbuqScD/m5I4lYTsK4bSViZWD1EKi10ULikztThnumBnRfWqcA0AqYAahDdvO58B xeNAyRGDy45oPF/OUTd9F647wfLeA4Wuup1b5POBWQxQPwg10hp7cDHLu+7tD4euzoLC rQqVYldqhJNGtrof6Jy+yZql4lSobH/GbrSR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x7eDwHQkgpVTRc/6L+kCTPeot5sxEBkIygUkH4dDPt6dOpF2fpvHj5x7yTfCKA9M9Q CBIN/tH+86Wrwao44DlGc0D0HOijp08k1xS09IJhvN4xwahXamgS9/RU76Ha6lhjnXOR vzEgEadoZEcwFRldu1ObDJkWwkAQrDMySCimw= Received: by 10.86.72.15 with SMTP id u15mr2200891fga.13.1237984555304; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm2069045fge.9.2009.03.25.05.35.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:51 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090325123551.2f3b05f5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> References: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:59 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:55:50 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD > containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. > > What is the mount command to use? > > Thinking mount /dev/ad1 /mnt but un-sure how this handles the 6.1 > slices on that HD. You need to mount the bsd partition[s] not the whole disk. Probably something like /dev/ad1s1d I'd suggest you re-label it and put a new filesytem on it if you can. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 12:45:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E191065712 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7A38FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so6137qwb.7 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NyTWGKA8gA61jp6k0sSt1XHOGim0it8XtRBuCqc+vXM=; b=ZqtkCBqBNgAUZe4T0nZ4Tuy0n5SYGJWZMo24EM7EeCOdfAqpd28ul/nAlksU1e1um7 A4uCSP9WCehSwEGQsjXob2F74qUBhiYefR2zxZDwkyZSQI6OwOkeU9g0/8O3tQyYVuCc sYeZOX6Ao4JBZV8ScEMTjqdsZG+aJm0tKPt18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EHiw4+Ey06OzdPDSuFP70heGb7VBZkaDbjJE7GXfW/8G6qA4h79Mt8OLoenLyUd44B bQXYZAr2NRtbN7lWff78uaIv9BikLqrN7UpW7abg8OeVZgfLr8UYUnxtGPJGPtjZ+Eag BqqVc5oyEyugLdCJXV5yXxq4tt/4g/6dH/sLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.61.12 with SMTP id r12mr12366489qah.254.1237985132165; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:45:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090325062520.GA3623@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090325062520.GA3623@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:45:32 +0100 Message-ID: <7daacbbe0903250545g33f2027dpf80876e5bb48073d@mail.gmail.com> From: Dominique Goncalves To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kuriyama@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp (CURRENT) failes on make install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:45:35 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hi, > > # cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp > # cvs update > ? work > cvs update: Updating . > cvs update: Updating files > cvs update: Updating patches.aout > # make install > ... > installing sysv.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system > installing ultrix4.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system > installing dragonfly.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/system > creating directory /usr/local/include/net-snmp/machine > installing generic.h in /usr/local/include/net-snmp/machine > making installlibs in > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1/snmplib > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=3Dcompile cc -I../include -I. =A0 -I../snmplib > -DNETSNMP_ENABLE_IPV6 -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Ufreebsd8 > -Dfreebsd8=3Dfreebsd8 =A0-DAPPLLIB_EXP=3D"/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDP= AN" > -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -I/usr/local/include =A0-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE -c -o > mib.lo mib.c > cc -I../include -I. -I../snmplib -DNETSNMP_ENABLE_IPV6 -O2 -pipe > -fno-strict-aliasing -Ufreebsd8 -Dfreebsd8=3Dfreebsd8 > -DAPPLLIB_EXP=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN -DHAS_FPSETMASK > -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include > -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE -c mib.c =A0-fPIC -DPIC -o > .libs/mib.o > ../include/net-snmp/library/data_list.h:75: error: nested function > 'netsnmp_get_list_node' declared but never defined > ../include/net-snmp/library/data_list.h:60: error: nested function > 'netsnmp_create_data_list' declared but never defined > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1/snmplib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.4.2.1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp. > > Any ideas? I guess you are running 8.0-CURRENT, a fix was commited about this issue, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-all/2009-March/006931.htm= l Hope this helps > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.= de/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Regards. --=20 There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 13:20:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A41065674 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797E68FC17 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so25715yxm.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=hLk0TS6olsdsJ145j5dNR8SUIPaRvpbodDtmx4hrNqo=; b=p6lvjDnP/9e9fNcwrjqTfcgaaL4J8cKJE7Ok7kn/KmX+ppdU1mtCoEfp+ccPEGSM/L txdNMaF82DHt6Q9n4uhABvDgKGP5prMNHB81j0oaoCYbtA+1xyo8R0oWqaWKfHt6ACsn HnC9MYZ5Fr1vuIgdmGK1g2YhfA79JPwxpGV1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=bmxQr1mFgjrndXkeNsN2UQOQ9jVvTwkWwlAXM+VO4yYooT1I9iex2EZ0xRl5rQsYvw CEPQ3dTcyOc56zfWLdegBayYOPF/3pVLHr5lPbbqOtbNLk3vE19MLLdhclS0YSmTp7hz PYLTM+IIz0js5+ASSO7T/b+18NtM1D8Gzc+xQ= Received: by 10.90.31.8 with SMTP id e8mr3855707age.48.1237987216781; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.206? ([189.123.213.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm12228492agc.9.2009.03.25.06.20.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <1237964392.4294.19.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:19:13 -0300 Message-Id: <1237987153.4294.43.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:20:18 -0000 Em Qua, 2009-03-25 às 13:32 +0100, Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > it's really worth to spent at least 50$ for each antenna to be sure it > will be stable at 10km with huge margins I agree with you... but here (in Brazil) the 24dbi antennas are so bad that using a can seems to work better... a 24db antenna here costs 24 dollars... a good USA made antenna costs 200 dollars each.. and is difficult to find... I agree with you that wireless success id a matter of anntennas.. the better the antennas and positioning the better success you have in the small budgjet project... By the way Mr Puchar, what are the radios you recommend or use?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 13:30:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B903106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og109.obsmtp.com (exprod7og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEBCF8FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.251]) by exprod7ob109.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKScoyAa4T94yPUFQ23ZopBr71NuyZ8qn9@postini.com; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:30:41 PDT Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id l33so27305rvb.22 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.142.15 with SMTP id u15mr3593627rvn.16.1237987841001; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm17145836rvb.59.2009.03.25.06.30.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Steele To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6199039.721237987781602.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: WARNING: Expected rawoffset 0, found 63? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:30:43 -0000 I've created a GEOM mirrored file system and everything seems to be working, but I get the warning WARNING: Expected rawoffset 0, found 63 when the mirror is being created. What is this referring to? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 13:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627CC106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6916C8FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2PDmp92031662; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:48:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PDmo6I031659; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:48:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:48:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1237987153.4294.43.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Message-ID: References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> <49C99CAB.2050904@m2.seamanpaper.com> <200903250337.n2P3b125092026@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <1237964392.4294.19.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <1237987153.4294.43.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:49:04 -0000 > > I agree with you... but here (in Brazil) the 24dbi antennas are so bad > that using a can > seems to work better... a 24db antenna here costs 24 dollars... looks like bad joke. you can make antenna from few copper wires and expanded polystyrene - getting 12-14dB isn't hard (i mean yagi). > By the way Mr Puchar, what are the radios you recommend or use?? for a long time i don't use radios so i can recommend NOW. anyway - it's less important than antennas - the one that have best distance with builtin 1dB antennas will be best with antennas on long distance. and make sure they have bridge mode not only AP or AP-client - it always make a difference. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 14:19:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E3F1065670 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CE48FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n2PEEpAO027152; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:14:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n2PEEpki027151; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:14:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:14:51 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Harold Hartley Message-ID: <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:05 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:12:39PM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to > install on windows like ubuntu does. I don't know what Ubuntu does. But, you can install FreeBSD on a machine that also runs MS-Win. The traditional way is to 'dual-boot' the machine. But, you can also install some virtual machine software and run both under that. You can also install wine and run MS-Win stuff on FreeBSD. There are some limits to that I think, but people do it. I run a dual (or triple) boot. It is documented in the handbook and works just fine. > I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live > in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to > choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a > freebsd choice. > > I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have > to use windows for. Basically, that is what I do. Mostly I boot FreeBSD and use it for my desktop. But, sometimes I need to use Photoshop which I have on the MS-Win side and printing labels seems to work better with Word than Openoffice, so I boot MS-Win for those. ////jerry > > I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have > read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to > run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to > be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to > boot into when I want. > > I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a > linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always > learning. > > Thanks > Harold Hartley > 158 Russell Street > Lewiston, Maine 04240 > wheelie207@gwi.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 14:52:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E261065675 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B098FC1D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so52714tia.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:52:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rBtr4x/W3ijkcO9kBxEIn4/w0I4kr0QacbGrdJFmvzE=; b=WFdS65F4qMichPy7ubpB4VTlwqrKk42z3DDkEYB2B66IrP4U3UowA90/LHECJaWtoc 0mIs15QDdjGsaW83u08nfL2/TtIHKhgAb0HJ65Co/ewI4fqS0T2RHGtlsw+rGFGCNITR kbKBaW+COybYnWb3n+F1MBdp9xPXhdqFAVZP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k3PImofN6Tzpzxb15rU39UsxWcZwJd2YRsZrn7ZKGtDX1tBQodHCfdReleNCbquU54 ocD4bqwjVVHCug4eCTT1mY4hd3N7ltmw24QwA0azhCurKWnNMZK+Be0ZYRRDHy/5AvuX nnnb0q+/5cpxIoP6NfWWCZWbVjgSDANclxUeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:31 +0530 Received: by 10.110.73.19 with SMTP id v19mr9102446tia.1.1237992766399; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mehul Ved To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:52:48 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I don't know what Ubuntu does. What ubuntu does is 1) Install ubuntu as a windows program 2) Run the ubuntu installer as any other win32 installer 3) Ubuntu is installed on a clean NTFS partition 4) Use windows bootloader So, you install and uninstall ubuntu from within windows. But, to switch between windows and ubuntu you have to reboot. This is what I have gathered from other people. I haven't used it myself. Probably the wubi[1] page would have more information on this. 1. http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#internals -- Twenty Percent of Zero is Better than Nothing. -- Walt Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 14:56:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC1A106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6887E8FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so131828qyk.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:56:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W2XMdtIYf8edWUYxzofpO8DHjI6QSZypvIGwZDrEM+Q=; b=Bj8UiwsA5uZ9yNHWnRIlOY/hfkk8OiHqRG3FpGKWkm7e/AmwoqMw1ClajJY7J4pkx7 zBeJz7RXhB4UaDSJxaM767dOgoM+AUHNY5WePK4zv8b9XAB6f4Xm/VWi9dRkuMnhf0uN tfWhqHeL3YLcYK9yg6AZpKbcfTpIEJ8J0VwUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tmkYcyH1tZYGQqp0Ka7yPwdkvSsT2yUL/jJW4MyRfBtUluJNxtzbAUbZmtdt3eemmp Wb5WFPbOimYaj/60iSWVZAc2tUxzgHYzYZC2/DfMifxlOrnq+vZmYILDpZz6WsIoBs2e eJPuNuAkuw9I5HTZXHpHgJweok+euSt4PKpwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.110.21 with SMTP id l21mr4240242qcp.26.1237991638250; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:33:56 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d933e4f0678ab207 Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Flash 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:56:13 -0000 Is there now a cleaner way to install flash on FreeBSD, or do we still have to wade through this: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=51075+0+archive/2008/freebsd-emulation/20081102.freebsd-emulation Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 15:03:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A5D106568C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D3A8FC2F for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n2PEwp5Y027310; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:58:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n2PEwpdL027309; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:58:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:58:51 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mehul Ved Message-ID: <20090325145850.GA27272@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harold Hartley Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:03:09 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:22:31PM +0530, Mehul Ved wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > I don't know what Ubuntu does. > > What ubuntu does is > 1) Install ubuntu as a windows program > 2) Run the ubuntu installer as any other win32 installer > 3) Ubuntu is installed on a clean NTFS partition > 4) Use windows bootloader > So, you install and uninstall ubuntu from within windows. But, to > switch between windows and ubuntu you have to reboot. > This is what I have gathered from other people. I haven't used it > myself. Probably the wubi[1] page would have more information on this. > > 1. http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#internals Thanks for the explanation. I would rather have FreeBSD installed on a good UFS2 slice than an NTFS partition. I would much rather have it cleanly separate from MS-Win - not even booting it. I don't want my FreeBSD system dragged down by MS baggage. ////jerry > > -- > > Twenty Percent of Zero is Better than Nothing. -- Walt Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 15:08:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA4E1065674 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783608FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so57193tia.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9RU6x96CkULvT9n5zduyfRyf2I2hp+0e1XBMG0/oOTs=; b=dYWqfw3sNXQ2+Yj4bZAmDgJCSdMI/LDx+nxoacovRSODwE4OQkgDDdxM/xhO+Bpgbs 8LcxfOiR37g5+6TpjkHoHWiFY9b8Dx6V/6y/6p2heg8ojhu09Xwu7Gi4Ju0hdkfeIQZl aN2s7xTJeb6hhsW8bMf7vvSae8fp4jpRA77pM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xmHD1pBShpJnPIuLrAhTpJX5ifW2QJN4DLEB3loKezdZrYJT39GVf11Z7Qe8zqw1IL 3+VxzBsczXWCGkAYEEHssokF40119Mo7hm1Mr8MdJOsAwRb2zlCAkmzZqFKouYWu896Z 5/brhxRFRsqcDKafAo3QUxE7GVTWalXR15z0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:38:13 +0530 Received: by 10.110.40.8 with SMTP id n8mr14914123tin.28.1237993708403; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mehul Ved To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" , Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:08:32 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > No affence here but if you want to just click, click, next, finish, stick to > mtfk ubuntu.... we dnt need u No offence. But please read before sending the email. -- Twenty Percent of Zero is Better than Nothing. -- Walt Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 15:21:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB19310656D1 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C258FC0C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2PFLm2M012723 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n2PFLm17012720 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:21:52 -0000 FreeBSD 7/KDE 3.5, /usr/local/bin/bash in /etc/passwd as login shell I used to have xbiff (displays a mailbox icon with flag) on Solaris, which notified me whenever a new mail arrived in my mailbox /var/mail/USERNAME, via a beep and the flag in the mailbox icon being raised. What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 15:32:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E9C106568D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CF18FC0C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so79414ywh.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R/9Kpk0OyRMlozwUkfTtGEvzvjMaAAfQAXhsWHfL+3w=; b=s0g2OyVvNPzSmcWEE48ofzXGV+v0E+H3zqOAVaK1TyE+XTHfY08Tiyafd6CoEjOTvw 4uhGtraGMUs25P4G6QbpQJuLdJj5yw5AVziSohrUVMyCJ1rmg+/PZYGB3TAEB/ecCeIn RV+obZbWjSh3lHV+PH/FZCa0VhRElfiEVASI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UOim0RzpttsiF/jvCEpYcDYl4QtEmkwHNafOyGqE4tKslVTR6Pz4aw7pgS+SfCicj0 o3BTVocS5gg3fIVf236H2M5XSmi98PGPgbIsbSLk1Ji6zXqioxI8X6Z1D73eM8WILttG mPzBOG7nOoic4noiKdY+JxrWdf5SnLyrwjN2w= Received: by 10.100.138.10 with SMTP id l10mr4656754and.51.1237995155553; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.10.2? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b32sm5564786ana.35.2009.03.25.08.32.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA4E92.7010308@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:32:34 -0400 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090325141451.GA27116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, wheelie207@gwi.net Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:32:39 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:12:39PM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > > >> I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to >> install on windows like ubuntu does. >> > > I don't know what Ubuntu does. But, you can install FreeBSD on a machine > that also runs MS-Win. The traditional way is to 'dual-boot' the machine. > But, you can also install some virtual machine software and run both > under that. its worth noting that you can install freebsd to the same HD as windows under vmware on windows. its not very complicated. also worth noting is that the proper version of XP will run under vmware/native with only a hardware profile. effectively you can run windows from freebsd, and vice versa. and yes, the vmware version 3 on freebsd. > You can also install wine and run MS-Win stuff on FreeBSD. > There are some limits to that I think, but people do it. > I run a dual (or triple) boot. It is documented in the handbook > and works just fine. > > > >> I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live >> in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to >> choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a >> freebsd choice. >> >> I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have >> to use windows for. >> > > Basically, that is what I do. Mostly I boot FreeBSD and use it for > my desktop. But, sometimes I need to use Photoshop which I have on > the MS-Win side and printing labels seems to work better with Word > than Openoffice, so I boot MS-Win for those. > > ////jerry > > > >> I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have >> read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to >> run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to >> be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to >> boot into when I want. >> >> I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a >> linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always >> learning. >> >> Thanks >> Harold Hartley >> 158 Russell Street >> Lewiston, Maine 04240 >> wheelie207@gwi.net >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 15:35:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E63E1065729 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50318FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so80654ywh.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ul1eu+wDERzAQM0bpzp66nrnnlbPWnRfevHqZu86ZXg=; b=LjFUDk4UohJSN6klSaczHMDm1yP5daLxsLjc/vp8b4Konkse22n81fAqmzYgwYmFHr qMZIV9WyZ1ExRNMBubqroj5AH1MN2akaXBR2mYOGG4BybW8qPkSp9gUaA0r6JmxS9ESr GTbPCxtsarmDtGbEcC/JwdisnDZz4lWOiRqF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FeCbXcU6ErwOH3oWCooQPeuPLjNVouHL3XnPCeDUdpSSs7h2nherBGM+sjhe7yaR5V jkP84JYBWOsVKjr8bQa4kf8M75RWsy/RRcPBOotjOVZPO9EaPMyL3pFmPpfBn2ECcTJy fuNWklgSLv6TEYOy2GQVcGjmPBhFUr+lis7LE= Received: by 10.100.240.9 with SMTP id n9mr8248256anh.135.1237995324918; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.10.2? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm2532348anc.45.2009.03.25.08.35.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA4F33.30607@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:15 -0400 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Maness References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:35:27 -0000 Chris Maness wrote: > Is there now a cleaner way to install flash on FreeBSD, or do we still > have to wade through this: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=51075+0+archive/2008/freebsd-emulation/20081102.freebsd-emulation > http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 this works fine. michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 17:35:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72BC10656D5 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from ns2.yoafrica.com (ns2.yoafrica.com [66.135.41.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBE38FC17 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from panadol.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.14]) by ns2.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1LmWvP-00062b-67 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:30:44 +0200 Received: from smtp.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.8]) by panadol.yoafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LmWwt-000NWT-PI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:31:32 +0200 Received: from [196.44.183.82] (helo=[10.10.10.103]) by smtp.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LmWwt-000Hv4-K9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:31:31 +0200 From: Bruce Anthony Grobler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Yo!Africa Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:31:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB to Serial - Prolific Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bruce@yoafrica.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:35:37 -0000 Hi Everyone, I just tried my usb to serial adapter on FreeBSD 7.1 (GENERIC), now here's is my problem : dmesg: > ugen1: on uhub0 /var/log/messages: > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product 0x5523 bus uhub0 > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla kernel: ugen1: on uhub0 Now I'm pretty sure it's a Prolific 2303, as it works with the windows driver for the pl2303, I looked in the kernel config and there is a prolific 2303 module and it is being loaded. I can't tell you much about it as I found it lying around, its a little black box about the size of a match box with no writing on it at all. Please if anyone can help your assistance will be most appreciated. Regards, Bruce Grobler Network Engineer Yo!Africa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 17:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB410657D0 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0318FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so310639qyk.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6lNbpn8BQSt8YLIur/n9gosu4bmKSIX6iIzAuPuPSos=; b=BDHWyET8P7wINonoWLdDro2QNblQi+tWDn55WqwIT+C5GzG4ht/5nxWJxT8c2v5du8 rfCXuPsNvd0r+sajQiG0zV7RFM1zDP8rQxdA23N9iZgqH0OUUi/q87Tp6TPZZ1ExuuqC 4xZ1h0T4FslGtlg7vQCOgO1razpbhu1/wOa1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=giwkh5ARQnWPUuDs6NJY/eK8D83hOV6eO5N335OAW9kCq0HyfUlFI3b5RUU1X3czKH tuwRp1rgnpRMGyC3Ft7lZdzawNX64h0ke9BRN+6jtegh8wezkKRSPUvzfWjXSUFUSj+Z aspE0MdDTUS3N9G8VSPSWoP5D8jmRc4i6Pxxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.91.205 with SMTP id o13mr3536595vcm.92.1238002820936; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:40:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> References: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:40:20 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: bruce@yoafrica.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB to Serial - Prolific Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:40:24 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bruce Anthony Grobler wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I just tried my usb to serial adapter on FreeBSD 7.1 (GENERIC), now > here's is my problem : > > dmesg: > > > > ugen1: > on uhub0 > > > /var/log/messages: > > > > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product > 0x5523 bus uhub0 > > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla kernel: ugen1: class 255/0, rev 1.10/2.50, addr 2> on uhub0 > > > Now I'm pretty sure it's a Prolific 2303, as it works with the windows > driver for the pl2303, I looked in the kernel config > and there is a prolific 2303 module and it is being loaded. I can't tell > you much about it as I found it lying around, its a > little black box about the size of a match box with no writing on it at > all. > > Please if anyone can help your assistance will be most appreciated. > > Regards, > > Bruce Grobler > Network Engineer > Yo!Africa > I doubt it's the PL2303. The 2303 has a device ID of 2303 I've got a few of the 2303's -- and it showed up as a ucom device when I plugged it in. don't know what else to say -- it'd give you a ucom if it was truly a 2303. Good luck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 18:10:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42BC1065670 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918BD8FC0C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4D5E1DE for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:53:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.433 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tw1Mc3S5LgfI for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:52:58 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.160] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7FE5E227 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:52:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49CA6F7A.8050009@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:52:58 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49CA4F33.30607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CA4F33.30607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Flash 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:11:00 -0000 michael skrev: > > > Chris Maness wrote: >> Is there now a cleaner way to install flash on FreeBSD, or do we still >> have to wade through this: >> >> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=51075+0+archive/2008/freebsd-emulation/20081102.freebsd-emulation >> >> > http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 > > this works fine. > > michael http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 18:33:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8510656FF for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A118FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so136051qwb.7 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M8a8vKydx+b6C+EADP7J3EmhM3KfuuHLK3avN3C80FM=; b=e/jPZr4zWXQAhs3//CBEzMqx5obFh43e2rzy40D2Uh7ZFOhclqL8okbQaxFgpVSTsb AF6teQPrZ9r1WlmBb5JCcL3r2mzHIUmMa+teQ5EO129vrIxxs6MxvttQMOl0IYfGIUar g2Fjs5HRTAY/MWNaXTU9zyj/tozec+oRubhzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=C7RWK3kQ44q9ePiugcb6rA+liKTWWc+ohKGooYuS9B556d4XWVV6VVv19DNNlV+Wyn mpojhvPDJLpFrnpwRV0J0UoduApIvM4bz8gws+c7hVdQOs9JmR1pvG5hdNLXVmPlny/U OjB/V5ps2d7eiAvaG9pCL+jSA4KsnUSWnw4Es= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.82.81 with SMTP id a17mr4552129qcl.107.1238006031213; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:33:51 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d40ff18953b8e233 Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: Neal Hogan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:34:15 -0000 Is this an Open Source alternative? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 18:36:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F01106578C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayvey@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B328FC1F for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayvey@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so126923and.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=wwJgrtc25kuseiE5/qlgUyBvlvv2ebVyRfl/J1v4xag=; b=Ju4bqJNwj/nAoRXhDyKWjecm4z/Sai6PypxWSmelsSGvfsnoiRqgcKR9LqNDMNcFEC 8MAqMW5afEyR6GK3vAa7KTvAi1HuVsKSlukgXyhX8dZHFrr0Fx+4WX8UeKnWKaF0U6/Y C716WPxOZCZXSZ29NagCIvD4o1ZljF21SlDUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=U6qPrbxKS2PMIMErNd7apxG0MK2fnauj5J7syleSvlUo73KrXEOxjoqEZ1tdr+Pyhn khjKKUiEroywuIXTmActq48Vp4F/R/FeLgiaU/iUvA7f1AoilpLf3CoJojk08e0WxVvY NoLMmgaMw2H4ELMPml07qJ37hgoBqgLJ1leGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr3366016wff.228.1238006154657; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:54 -0700 Message-ID: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> From: Kayven Riese To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=000e0cd258301411160465f5c5db X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:00:58 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:36:14 -0000 --000e0cd258301411160465f5c5db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was trying to burn a DVD KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device KV_BSD# I have had this problem before, but since then I believe I have a new HD that runs KV_BSD% uname -a FreeBSD KV_BSD 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 24 20:09:28 PDT 2009 root@KV_BSD:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KAYVE_KERN i386 KV_BSD% The fact that I am running KAYVE_KERN now is slightly confusing to me because I thought the build failed. I am attaching a file called "makesplat.log" which is my personal convention for a typescript that records everything spit (splatted) out by the make command. My laptop is an ASUS M6800N http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml here is the dmesg for the DVD burner KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device KV_BSD# *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------* --000e0cd258301411160465f5c5db-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 19:17:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91361106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: from s217.sureserver.com (s217.sureserver.com [203.194.200.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C078FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: (qmail 11201 invoked by uid 1002); 25 Mar 2009 19:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.8?) (saifi.khan@twincling.org@59.96.45.94) by s217.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 25 Mar 2009 19:17:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:51:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@localhost To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: FreeBSD can't see OpenBSD slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:17:44 -0000 Hi: I installed OpenBSD 3.5 in a 25GB slice on a 160GB SATA HDD. Now when i power up the system and boot into a FreeBSD instalation CD (8.x 200902 snapshot), the Fdisk partition editor shows the entire disk as unused. Are slices created with OpenBSD tools not seen in FreeBSD ? thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 19:23:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57EB1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espartano.mail@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E168FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espartano.mail@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so667417fgg.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:23:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5a7Bz6A5GaAAN9HAvhO5qDdTGJHyPs9PSSkzJJP3TjI=; b=cfLpUK99U/D99SilpN5ISUaOZcxVxtuXrZuIq6raDdGwL5Rbrpnv1dPEYqo7HK88tu OR1DUJ8SUkyVwZDT7NMP4Rpy6tomDbK2sEbLZ5zw6vQnzLeQQhmDFxnJC97qrwKG02SB uEMXTSchphLAGW5hWUo4vzWrRlRvR2XCRLxBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NLlEs8UNFUEnAQy/+Wi6Dc7tnBelu8AgEmVLqBvGFwYxX7XV1ydAqOkvNObwQsKRdp sov/JR+3mDlEoIaZKPxUDon1yDckJIGF3U2rYikRA01euqKRV4R6pdxkiOGAhvYHC11P P+JG0iCg/VrrQdtaN8SUFby6CSMUX8UpRF2Dw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr261980fga.59.1238008993143; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:23:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660903210543v1cebe63fr4424bebc58076e4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:23:13 -0600 Message-ID: From: Espartano To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:23:14 -0000 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Modulok wrote: > List, > > I have been tasked with getting a DSL connection across about 10km of > no-man's-land to a rural location without internet access. Ideally, > all traffic inbetween the two directional antennas would be encrypted. > (Nice, but not entirely required.) 3Mb/s would be great! Something > like: > > LAN<->BSDrouter<->modem<->Antenna<~~air~~>Antenna<->modem<->DSL > > I'm looking for general pointers of both hardware and software to > achieve this. I'd like to employ FreeBSD as much as is feasible. This > is my first WAN network project, so even newbie pointers and general > references would be much appreciated. (Hardware suggestions, books to > read, etc.) Reliability is of mild concern, simply because I don't > want to drive 10km at 3:00am when something breaks. > > Tips? References? Advice? May be you should use two embedded hardware (to acomplish yours BSDRouter) like this: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d0.htm or like this: http://www.soekris.com/net4526.htm The second one is more expensive than the firts one. Attaching one poweful mini-pci Atheros wireless card on each hardware embedded you might could get large distance. you ought to use one mini-pci wireless card like this: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_34&products_id=694 it's a very expensive wireless card but it's very powerful card too, it work with 1watt of power when work in IEEE802.11g/b modes also you need to use two good directional antennas may be like this: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?products_id=395 I had used the embedded hardware http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d0.htm with NanoBSD and I got good results but i never need getting large distances like you. -- "Linux is for people who hate Windows, BSD is for people who love UNIX". "Social Engineer -> Because there is no patch for human stupidity" "The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep." "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 19:58:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E22F106566C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD758FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so456369qyk.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:58:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3WY+dEWbFAM5wAmBRDeHMINTGUMRKmfyysexC8rbM9g=; b=Ff6dQtZFJSS531sxrWQnNJFqhwnaskXrMbnTXG1guoZyrQPGl5BhT9RTzQSxS6Dge8 hYy9EfjIwq6wGgWU7oGnygFIErFY7vZlq+XyLsTgedoRJwLVok7VX3FcPQyjo4KJyNqB EznM/VI/py2y1hAtVw3edWE+L26eCQu6/hgB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NGXt61Z84xgPBRxszL+raP1sLRBv5SQDSqUfwg5h40Sp7+A4S/p/xuVuBL+YSQuxb1 Hm5/SkC8yH/LN+8byULw1knXAAV66MjxsY1pLAF7T0I9aPZ1ILFWmaeUAAGcMn2PKh69 ptWVyeNyQEyQArBVgIpnh4OKKXfsPNJDvRfFM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.83.149 with SMTP id f21mr3687316vcl.34.1238011123454; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:58:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6199039.721237987781602.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> References: <6199039.721237987781602.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:58:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: Expected rawoffset 0, found 63? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:58:44 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Steele wrote: > I've created a GEOM mirrored file system and everything seems to be > working, but I get the warning > > WARNING: Expected rawoffset 0, found 63 > > when the mirror is being created. What is this referring to? > Are you gmirror'ing the BSD slice? Wrong: /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad2s1 Right: /dev/ad0 /dev/ad2 That's what it sounds like to me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 20:08:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383C2106566B for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51228FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so85547fge.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:08:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5loas1idkKyXVFW6YD1+w8JcqnY2ad/vE1+2NWEMDUE=; b=vv4BmAXv5wDGROeaolKow1c76YTl1S7SuqoQjw2MYvtnZo0l3gUXc489jEw1u3X+l/ BpNBOkVxh+JSZSM2p/zytle+6aMMwP7wh1PWi4IJTwIcLRteVFk0rDloTISt/Xne1dbg lQNxjMhd8AO65qOk3Y9FGWTi9ZDy+U3T0oRAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JILjLp0/BzTKr/8hJICDZnK42I0GrxXwag06ZgCOI8qvnrXrKhQ1Ovwl1FcG4EmA+u 361vhEpRZZk9wMoysGNcc9FuC5/DQPFNGok+DlOQEWREJDB3ITEEKQInrr9lYHmaKvfN KeMGP0UeIzNkshuHJsQuaW4eJDtwB5XMhAhYY= Received: by 10.86.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr306508fga.55.1238011734800; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm9677001fga.15.2009.03.25.13.08.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA8F52.4050403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:08:50 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Flash 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:08:56 -0000 Chris Maness wrote: > Is this an Open Source alternative? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > No, it is the adobe linux plugin + wrapper for FBSD. /usr/ports/graphics/gnash is one such open source project. It used to work for me on youtube, but since youtube launched HD and other changes, only a few video work now using it. Most other content also doesn't work correctly with it. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 20:11:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3009F1065673 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FF08FC1F for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so678480fgg.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KmglIfmet7Ew/KIWkAipfM+gWHxicJBm28iEI05u9C8=; b=G8VOkzSfDsRZTbIxvgRo5anRveGqcxpbCA2hvuUVzfX+/OiqksnxU8mjTCFELadmX8 YTbPbQLcjWZZSFeAOsDshAjB16taMu4J7d/N5s/9A5L58rgrFpH+/w6pnxfrQ/PoerXT MsE/5SpQlgF3XYwPXk6k4HwH28+dbYYkK2xHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s/dDJqHW9qhDWntq+TtlzjF4AG8mJWWkqCG+fMW9rv96xOYjPLH4sBailI/3SG0nr0 VhWxmxAAPFmWB4qjBSqbYdJW8vCOTskTFD3nNM8FaiCbTNI26n2P6v5OVGkHTsSxWgHR 9xUKnQj7+DrzXSK+4cETvtCWYE9t7C4HKqL8s= Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr314936fgc.54.1238011892494; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm9687599fga.25.2009.03.25.13.11.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA8FF0.2050505@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:11:28 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:11:35 -0000 Kayven Riese wrote: > I was trying to burn a DVD > > KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device > KV_BSD# > > > I have had this problem before, but since then I believe I have a new HD > that runs > > KV_BSD% uname -a > FreeBSD KV_BSD 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 24 20:09:28 PDT > 2009 root@KV_BSD:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KAYVE_KERN i386 > KV_BSD% > > The fact that I am running KAYVE_KERN now is slightly confusing to me > because I thought the build failed. I am attaching a file > called "makesplat.log" which is my personal convention for a typescript that > records everything spit (splatted) out by the make command. > > My laptop is an ASUS M6800N > > http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml > > here is the dmesg for the DVD burner > > > KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > KV_BSD# > > > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Kayven Riese, BSCS, > MS (Physiology and Biophysics) > (415) 902 5513 cellular > http://kayve.net > Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Maybe easier for you to add atapicam_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and reboot. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 20:22:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D747B106566C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607A78FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so88398fge.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RHe0V6x/g06tP4zRo+WmvL4HSwSgtkNTIMpLtRfbXxQ=; b=t8sQciAu/9xxKdWALCp8GgSvkFxbMt8+eog09r7UyYoIdY0YFCLn3IO236R9ymxl95 UbmPSIq1dsZew1SCg4W+scQHf5UWam4/q8vf1EdX4fKgKTN4DWu+3B8YxRIaDsA2VquD xlH4dF/oTqPC9LLFRaP4cNRbMpCqjGjDmdakg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=chOKpHcDsa5n6GzR+z3Q88cnnu1zOc1Q/4fE7e8Is2/fMxtnr40mnCYEdLy87FP1fN 6z0eltHfRUqJKEN2IlVbQoK+fTlQuCuy7RGc4zqso5s3aOoHVSnV9AbxzjShqCsGzGJA NVWbXvjDjqysC+1Nu6AX+i0Nsp1pnoMXhdaUw= Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr318220fga.59.1238012541930; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm6526626fgg.17.2009.03.25.13.22.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA9279.4020305@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:22:17 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:22:25 -0000 Kayven Riese wrote: > I was trying to burn a DVD > > KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device > KV_BSD# > > > I have had this problem before, but since then I believe I have a new HD > that runs > > KV_BSD% uname -a > FreeBSD KV_BSD 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 24 20:09:28 PDT > 2009 root@KV_BSD:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KAYVE_KERN i386 > KV_BSD% > > The fact that I am running KAYVE_KERN now is slightly confusing to me > because I thought the build failed. I am attaching a file > called "makesplat.log" which is my personal convention for a typescript that > records everything spit (splatted) out by the make command. > > My laptop is an ASUS M6800N > > http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml > > here is the dmesg for the DVD burner > > > KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > KV_BSD# > > > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Kayven Riese, BSCS, > MS (Physiology and Biophysics) > (415) 902 5513 cellular > http://kayve.net > Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Also a little tip on dmesg stuff. Generally it's a bit easier for the list to read it in text format so it's a couple ways for you to get it in that format easily. A command like dmesg | mail -s "dmesg output" you@example.com with email you the output of dmesg provided basics like internet connectivity and sendmail are working. A command like dmesg > ~/dmesg.log will dump dmesg output to a file called dmesg.log in your home directory. You can attach it to an email, or transfer to somewhere you can via sneakernet, internet, or *net. Might save you a bit of time. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 20:30:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A745A1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from ns2.yoafrica.com (ns2.yoafrica.com [66.135.41.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE1B8FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from panadol.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.14]) by ns2.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1LmZfI-00027D-QX; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:25:34 +0200 Received: from smtp.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.8]) by panadol.yoafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LmZjh-0000IG-1t; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:30:05 +0200 Received: from [196.44.183.82] (helo=[10.10.10.103]) by smtp.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LmZjg-000JwI-LP; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:30:04 +0200 From: Bruce Anthony Grobler To: Tim Judd In-Reply-To: References: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Organization: Yo!Africa Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:30:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1238013002.12976.12.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB to Serial - Prolific Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bruce@yoafrica.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:30:27 -0000 Ok does anybody know what this device might require to work? On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 11:40 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bruce Anthony Grobler > wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just tried my usb to serial adapter on FreeBSD 7.1 (GENERIC), now > > here's is my problem : > > > > dmesg: > > > > > > > ugen1: > > on uhub0 > > > > > > /var/log/messages: > > > > > > > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product > > 0x5523 bus uhub0 > > > Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla kernel: ugen1: > class 255/0, rev 1.10/2.50, addr 2> on uhub0 > > > > > > Now I'm pretty sure it's a Prolific 2303, as it works with the windows > > driver for the pl2303, I looked in the kernel config > > and there is a prolific 2303 module and it is being loaded. I can't tell > > you much about it as I found it lying around, its a > > little black box about the size of a match box with no writing on it at > > all. > > > > Please if anyone can help your assistance will be most appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bruce Grobler > > Network Engineer > > Yo!Africa > > > > > I doubt it's the PL2303. The 2303 has a device ID of 2303 > > > I've got a few of the 2303's -- and it showed up as a ucom device when I > plugged it in. > > don't know what else to say -- it'd give you a ucom if it was truly a 2303. > > > > Good luck > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 20:31:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796C41065674 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0415C8FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so90422fge.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2o3E3w+8T0xrf9e+ccLlpSYVIa/IXv8HUrJ8Ufk22IM=; b=jaTXDng/yvbiUqdbaL75la66HEGkq1o7zEgM8QD8k6eXrhbVBaVwwMuCKArVEqhgYv h6e9ltw14thepMVWC5Pu42NL1d9k1RI/hFD0xAPo3lEGxm5z7N4KxITq/TpgO7IbAbzf AkLBqlUaLVhprMu/h+jqiBBRVnoEH11iicJm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kbTrPDB1v5vI8gY+oZzlpupmHDECk0gYlgLN8pus46taqBYemx9KQU7pHuYMWBzHs3 W4EL5tS+Ayem7t9bwW8wnJWurOfUYCtkAGpS2tOzTW3hlrhp1OlSTCsfoz/C7DtazcSC Ba+oGcQbQcqCYn0oYG60HE4E8YiiWl27o90Es= Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr369368fgb.19.1238013070441; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm10477550fga.10.2009.03.25.13.31.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CA9489.7030108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:31:05 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:31:12 -0000 Kayven Riese wrote: > I was trying to burn a DVD > > KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device > KV_BSD# > > > I have had this problem before, but since then I believe I have a new HD > that runs > > KV_BSD% uname -a > FreeBSD KV_BSD 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 24 20:09:28 PDT > 2009 root@KV_BSD:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KAYVE_KERN i386 > KV_BSD% > > The fact that I am running KAYVE_KERN now is slightly confusing to me > because I thought the build failed. I am attaching a file > called "makesplat.log" which is my personal convention for a typescript that > records everything spit (splatted) out by the make command. > > My laptop is an ASUS M6800N > > http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml > > here is the dmesg for the DVD burner > > > KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > KV_BSD# > > > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Kayven Riese, BSCS, > MS (Physiology and Biophysics) > (415) 902 5513 cellular > http://kayve.net > Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Ok, sry for the repeated list spam but I see your error now. You ignore my first mesg since I do see now that it picks up the dev on cd0. Your syntax is wrong. should be: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R disk1 not growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 21:29:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1A5106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05DB8FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055913D1E9; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:29:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2PLT0dH001550; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:29:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:29:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pieter Donche Message-Id: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:29:16 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, > so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21" CRT. If you think you need further options, consult "man xbiff". :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 21:34:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CDF10656C5 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C6E8FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED15F3D20B; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:34:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2PLYnvT001578; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:34:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:34:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Kayven Riese Message-Id: <20090325223449.4cd4c469.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <28b9b4180903251135j1224b112ofbf00c3c60229f4d@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:34:57 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:54 -0700, Kayven Riese wrote: > I was trying to burn a DVD > > KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device You cannot use growiso with the acd driver, you need the cd driver which is provided by atapicam facility. You can simply load it via the kldload command if you don't want to rebuild your kernel. > here is the dmesg for the DVD burner > > KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Oh, it seems that you already have the atapicam / cd setting in your kernel running. Fine! Just change the command: # growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R disk1 This should work. I have a symlink set via /etc/devfs.conf as /dev/dvd@ -> cd0 so I can use the command % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=foo.iso as presented in growisofs's manpage. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 21:47:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360BC10656C7 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from ns2.yoafrica.com (ns2.yoafrica.com [66.135.41.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F158A8FC2D for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@yoafrica.com) Received: from panadol.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.14]) by ns2.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1LmarQ-0003uJ-R2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:42:10 +0200 Received: from smtp.yoafrica.com ([196.44.176.8]) by panadol.yoafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmavz-0003re-7W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:52 +0200 Received: from [196.44.183.82] (helo=[10.10.10.103]) by smtp.yoafrica.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmavy-000Ke9-U8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:51 +0200 From: Bruce Anthony Grobler To: freebsd-questions Organization: Yo!Africa Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:34:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1238016873.4946.7.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Atheros 5424/2424 problem with scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bruce@yoafrica.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:47:20 -0000 Hi Just got my wireless card recognised (Atheros 5424/2424 ), dmesg: > ath0: mem 0xf6000000-0xf600ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 > ath0: [ITHREAD] > ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface > ath0: Ethernet address: 00:1f:e1:6a:98:4f > ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 > though when I do a ifconfig ath0 up scan it hangs, here are my configs/versions: > uname -a > FreeBSD valhalla.bollocks.co.zw 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Wed Mar 25 21:48:04 CAT 2009 sysbg@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VALHALLA-KERNEL i386 > from my kernel config: > # Wireless NIC cards > device wlan # 802.11 support > device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support > device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support > device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support > device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm > device wlan_scan_ap # 802.11 AP mode scanning > device wlan_scan_sta # 802.11 STA mode scanning > #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. > device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's > device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) > device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath > #device awi # BayStack 660 and others > #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. > #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. > kldstat: > 49 ath_hal > 50 ath_rate > 51 cardbus/if_ath > 52 pci/if_ath > > 188 wlan_amrr > 189 wlan_ccmp > 190 wlan_tkip > 191 wlan_wep > 192 wlan > 193 wlan_scan_ap > 194 wlan_scan_sta any ideas? Regards, Bruce Grobler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 21:48:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58DD1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F28FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D4E16C00DF; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2PLm7Fw001620; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:48:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:48:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD FS Message-Id: <20090325224807.81016dd9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Repairing a defective UFS 2 partition with another BSD's fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:48:16 -0000 Dear -fs list, last night I had an idea how I could have a chance to repair my defective UFS partition. To remember, this is the whole story: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/freebsd-fs/2008/11/2/3894714 "Repairing a defective UFS 2 partition with fsck_ffs (or other means)" I thought about the following: As far as I know, UFS isn't only used by FreeBSD, but also by OpenBSD and NetBSD. Variations should be less than, let's say, with Solaris UFS. So it may be that I can use the fsck utility of OpenBSD or NetBSD to check and repair the UFS dd duplicate where FreeBSD's fsck fails with fsck_ffs: bad inode number 306176 to nextinode To use with NetBSD, I've got a NetBSD Live! 2007 live system CD here. For OpenBSD... well, I don't know if they offer any live file system? The only commands I'd need are mount and fsck (both for UFS only). The system should be bootable via CD. Then I would need a shell to do something like this: # mkdir /temp # mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/wd1s1c /temp # cd /temp/rescue # fsck -t ufs -yf ad1s1f.dd In case NetBSD's or OpenBSD's fsck can't operate on the bare file, I'd think about something like: # mkdir /temp # mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/wd1s1c /temp # cd /temp/rescue # mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 10 -f ad1s1f.dd # fsck -t ufs -yf /dev/md10 What do you think, is this even possible? Should I try it? Please keep me CC because I'm on the questions@ list only. Thanks! I'll cross-post it to questions@ in case someone there as an idea for this really strange problem - remember, I'm the second (!) being on this planet having encountered this particular problem. I hope that's an acceptable behaviour. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 22:00:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99469106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espartano.mail@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273008FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espartano.mail@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so107478fge.12 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gu6E4/DsmpMWMvda7vNUrKzZS2HaLfvv2rnIOhtkE9Y=; b=JabyEgLN9s2t7UhvSbpUyettbs+PAE4zROQt9Sv14PCOvXwEickC+Tx/vwJxXQhTci EtG+TCKFAnn9Yj8EC4uKM/YyYLOS3D7ipPx4BwrHdJMqOYgbKIFIX9bgltZ5S4plnW6G ZU9jhD1knNhNMyBAlC0VKnQmYjtHALH86Epbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dZVzMrOWi+FJvzairDiyPYJdezMs8rNxFli3owQgkysiFKDLfiRDt+hgngu5K/5ApN Qml66tvIsLzKfDXe4YACx0OIddjIACi8bXNj2NZ0PkD/uOfLsD/4yD0x3Sz0shiEYXlW 4ysUvT242UHxC1aRIh6FMxE/8Y9C835gDAkVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr418813fga.38.1238018419724; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1238016873.4946.7.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> References: <1238016873.4946.7.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:00:19 -0600 Message-ID: From: Espartano To: bruce@yoafrica.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Atheros 5424/2424 problem with scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:21 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Bruce Anthony Grobler wrote: > Hi > > Just got my wireless card recognised (Atheros 5424/2424 ), > > dmesg: > >> ath0: mem 0xf6000000-0xf600ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 >> ath0: [ITHREAD] >> ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface >> ath0: Ethernet address: 00:1f:e1:6a:98:4f >> ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 >> > > though when I do a ifconfig ath0 up scan it hangs, > You could try with: # ath0 up list scan -- "Linux is for people who hate Windows, BSD is for people who love UNIX". 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 22:13:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C796106566C for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og121.obsmtp.com (exprod7og121.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56F438FC29 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.231]) by exprod7ob121.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKScqsjfZV3UVB7aF214dfUDeeufs9GaPE@postini.com; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:13:34 PDT Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g37so5395922rvb.1 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.86.4 with SMTP id o4mr37508rvl.172.1238019213598; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm18496394rvb.54.2009.03.25.15.13.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Steele To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <29197234.21238019153875.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <16900277.01238019129682.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: Expected rawoffset 0, found 63? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:13:35 -0000 >Are you gmirror'ing the BSD slice? > >Wrong: > /dev/ad0s1 > /dev/ad2s1 > >Right: > /dev/ad0 > /dev/ad2 > >That's what it sounds like to me. I don't think that's the issue. I read many articles on how to mirror slices, including the BSD slice, and in earlier tests I never saw this error. Something in my latest incarnation appears to be wrong though. This is one of the links I've modeled my work after: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 22:26:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C961065680 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7F18FC24 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so133304tia.3 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:26:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6XtHD+eKMCIEzt3vroLlbF8YgzXhqJmQ+AgeRvVk78I=; b=CKW1WFx3+BokXKqH3YoxtwiQL+gsH9xAGII6tLDpBW2NYFnL0ajPJtvdwnerLm4IAg x42gpNjGF3K9C3kmkDJxVEtO2mZezIbJ1a95C3ZFXe67EYUYPF3C5rdr3JUF5KkudCjy 3ycWoK67BgrjWT89Umuj08doxu249NjvCMyLE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uDgBKkJ+gVzr9d5kPb9ax/amt8alEM49TDReAXHRIBy81NCbJt4dKzUuU8kOcykqVw kth8TwDiDrcoQYrqqgqYkgY2oHCCQvO9TYondwNjbL9RG8//OBT1WGk0sxum0WTuAe8T fDnlHMtsDjvl5zgIxf5HqAP5zZaUMWhVwXUs8= Received: by 10.110.2.2 with SMTP id 2mr137187tib.29.1238019962986; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.225.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a4sm1176454tib.31.2009.03.25.15.25.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CAAFCF.9070909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:57:27 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 - GIVING UP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:26:05 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: >> Warren Block wrote: >>> >>> Install /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 to fill out the rest of the >>> requirements, then do startxfce4. >> >> I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 too. The results are exactly the >> same. Interestingly, I can run gnome-terminal in xfce without any >> hiccup. Even more interestingly, I can xfce's Terminal from Gnome >> pretty well. There are a few warnings though : >> >> (Terminal:20866): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon >> 'stock_terminal-newtab'. The 'hicolor' theme >> was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. > > That seems pretty compelling. Install > /usr/ports/misc/hicolor-icon-theme. How you got the xfce4 installed > without it is a question.> > portupgrade's pkgdb can you help you with missing dependencies like this. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > Hi Warren/Everyone else, I have done everything possible to rectify the problem : make deinstall clean install clean (in xfce4) make install clean (in hicolor-theme) portupgrade xfce4 pkgdb -aF The problem continues. Pasted below is the relevant output. I am not attaching the complete logfile (>27 kb), since I am not sure the forum rules permit this. If anyone is interested, please send me a separate mail. The X crash is not such a severe problem for me as I was just trying out xfce4 for fun (and I had plenty of it). Maybe the xfce developers might be more perturbed. -- > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > The application 'xfce4-session' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfwm4' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfce4-panel' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'Thunar' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'xfdesktop' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > xinit: connection to X server lost. > The application 'xfce4-settings-helper' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. > The application 'Terminal' lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 22:47:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB7106564A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from titus@barik.net) Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B975C8FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from titus@barik.net) Received: (qmail 52841 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2009 22:20:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.71?) (titus@99.135.97.120 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 22:20:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vXumGdoVM1l4XSzH6VyzfvAEF5AulVlLu42Knv20ACYnGNdlfffXoZbpM7mp9DZFBUcCVPoEDJitjr_.3T5U8S7MWqIMa96pC.0N4Pb8F0uyflnyNAwrQ.20uosqoXcNgMUBC6i5w7NcEq5Czvr.5HDkMl7kSqjb5Ewj0gfHFn3tFVwpPaiT7nqtdlB6qlIFlwFK5MckRJQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <49CAAE30.3090000@barik.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:20:32 -0400 From: Titus Barik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrade mysql50-server -> mysql51-server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:47:16 -0000 Hello all, I currently have mysql50-server installed on my machine. I want to to upgrade it to mysql51-server. What is the best way to do this? I normally use portmanager, and I'm a novice to FreeBSD. Thanks in advance, Titus -- Titus Barik (titus@barik.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 00:15:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A0510656EF for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C44A8FC2B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2Q0FNdG025695; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:15:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2Q0FNBv025692; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:15:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:15:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bruce Anthony Grobler In-Reply-To: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> Message-ID: References: <1238002288.12976.9.camel@valhalla.bollocks.co.zw> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB to Serial - Prolific Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:15:26 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Bruce Anthony Grobler wrote: > > I just tried my usb to serial adapter on FreeBSD 7.1 (GENERIC), now > here's is my problem : > > dmesg: > >> ugen1: on uhub0 grep 0x4348 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/* /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs:vendor WCH 0x4348 QinHeng Electronics grep 0x5523 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/* /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs:product WCH CH341SER 0x5523 CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge But it appears to only be defined, not used in any code. > /var/log/messages: > >> Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product 0x5523 bus uhub0 >> Mar 25 19:26:29 valhalla kernel: ugen1: on uhub0 > > Now I'm pretty sure it's a Prolific 2303, as it works with the windows driver for the pl2303, I looked in the kernel config > and there is a prolific 2303 module and it is being loaded. I can't tell you much about it as I found it lying around, its a > little black box about the size of a match box with no writing on it at all. My PL2303 has to be connected after the kernel module (uplcom) is loaded (it's not part of my kernel). kldload uplcom attach USB end of PL2303 use /dev/cuaU0 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 00:46:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AFD106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579658FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2Q0k4sn025855; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:46:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2Q0k4nd025852; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:46:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:46:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manish Jain In-Reply-To: <49CAAFCF.9070909@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49C869CD.3040306@gmail.com> <49C90CF6.5070409@gmail.com> <49CAAFCF.9070909@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clicking on Terminal crashes XFCE4 - GIVING UP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:46:05 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Manish Jain wrote: > I have done everything possible to rectify the problem : > > make deinstall clean install clean (in xfce4) > make install clean (in hicolor-theme) > portupgrade xfce4 > pkgdb -aF > > The problem continues. Pasted below is the relevant output. It's a different problem now, an xorg crash. If you've got time, it might be easiest to delete all your ports (pkg_delete), update your ports tree, and start again. If you're convinced your xorg install is good, you could selectively force-delete all the xfce ports ('pkg_info | grep xfce' along with Terminal, Thunar, some other stuff). The make rmconfig-recursive in xfce4 and start again. Otherwise, it's hard to tell where the problem lies, but you may need to rebuild xorg and then build xfce. > I am not > attaching the complete logfile (>27 kb), since I am not sure the forum rules > permit this. If anyone is interested, please send me a separate mail. > > The X crash is not such a severe problem for me as I was just trying out > xfce4 for fun (and I had plenty of it). Maybe the xfce developers might be > more perturbed. > > -- > Fatal server error: >> Caught signal 11. Server aborting >> >> The application 'xfce4-session' lost its connection to the display :0.0; >> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed >> the application. >> The application 'xfwm4' lost its connection to the display :0.0; >> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed >> the application. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 01:59:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC89C1065674 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134668FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2Q1tdnC044458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:55:39 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n2Q1xLVA031681; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:59:21 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:59:21 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903260159.n2Q1xLVA031681@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be In-reply-to: (message from Pieter Donche on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET)) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:59:26 -0000 Hi, > I used to have xbiff (displays a mailbox icon with flag) on Solaris, > which notified me whenever a new mail arrived in my mailbox > /var/mail/USERNAME, via a beep and the flag in the mailbox icon > being raised. > > What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, > so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? Provided that you installed xbiff (from /usr/ports/x11/xbiff) the command will be exactely the same as it was on Solaris. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 02:39:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9F41065670 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCF08FC12 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so321500bwz.43 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:39:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=umNPTamZEmf5zXmwx6FSb97s8WKxuoqLH9TpmCjQ0H4=; b=LmD5Wn46I84bOankXMkh6XzmU+IAhplZK1u/p2q/gueAlfXKdhcd2NZtT5U4s2tntj 3GymKNjUbMU+qfxgOLhxrkPy8HNK6RtShah4ecEcRW0i6BzmnO51En7Kf8uPuf4MIIC8 ybh7LZtHVBFjfA1CNVyFUmqmKA54yAcvYFLTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=encP0OQpUTcrCDg57UhZvChn50WoWsTeE4cmFprInWhDdaFDO2MIySrd7Ho9L/HmZf C7aZIojF2NRo2fHI+khKon30POlfB9iigoY4AydX3BodSDXP5y4nDIRiAMHndzhY6nUI IruqpVT46/WrvqvUzsRL+F5FBk+WyuQdrzAys= Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr157964mur.16.1238035153161; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279726050.dsl.bell.ca [76.71.17.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g1sm15666793muf.12.2009.03.25.19.39.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:39:15 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20090128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nmap as user works, root doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:39:15 -0000 Can anyone make sense of this? Straight DSL connection, no router. using -e [any interface] results in the same errors nmap-4.76 As root: #nmap -v -v google.ca Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.161.104. WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to 64.230.197.58 nexthost: failed to determine route to 64.233.161.104 QUITTING! As user: ~>nmap -v -v google.ca Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.187.104. Initiating Ping Scan at 22:35 Scanning 64.233.187.104 [1 port] Completed Ping Scan at 22:35, 0.08s elapsed (1 total hosts) Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 22:35 Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 22:35, 0.06s elapsed Initiating Connect Scan at 22:35 Scanning jc-in-f104.google.com (64.233.187.104) [1000 ports] #nmap -iflist Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT ************************INTERFACES************************ DEV (SHORT) IP/MASK TYPE UP MAC fxp0 (fxp0) 192.168.2.100/24 ethernet up 00:11:D8:11:B7:4E rl0 (rl0) 172.16.0.1/24 ethernet up 00:E0:29:51:C7:61 xl0 (xl0) 10.10.10.2/24 ethernet up 00:04:75:C7:27:DA lo0 (lo0) 127.0.0.1/8 loopback up tun0 (tun0) 76.71.17.226/24 point2point up WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to 64.230.197.58 **************************ROUTES************************** DST/MASK DEV GATEWAY 64.230.197.58/32 tun0 76.71.17.226 127.0.0.1/32 lo0 127.0.0.1 Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 64.230.197.58 UGS 0 832901 tun0 10.10.10.0/24 link#3 UC 0 0 xl0 10.10.10.3 02:01:02:7b:3c:72 UHLW 1 57249 xl0 1004 64.230.197.58 76.71.17.226 UGH 1 2 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 303 lo0 172.16.0.0/24 link#2 UC 0 0 rl0 172.16.0.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 18 rl0 192.168.2.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 192.168.2.1 00:0b:23:9c:f9:0c UHLW 1 1 fxp0 448 #ifconfig fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:11:d8:11:b7:4e inet6 fe80::211:d8ff:fe11:b74e%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.2.100 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:e0:29:51:c7:61 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe51:c761%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 172.16.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9 ether 00:04:75:c7:27:da inet6 fe80::204:75ff:fec7:27da%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 10.10.10.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 76.71.17.226 --> 64.230.197.58 netmask 0xffffff00 Opened by PID 13443 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 02:51:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A591065673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84DB8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so566104rvb.43 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:51:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KeFmJQ6Ioj1LB8EfcOCyAdaF5tDACKzXM5TMClWuMvI=; b=RmRLj/JUou+/YUZsuuoXhXy5g3ggigk5uNrz1ltNEWuEc46wdxDqbw9y+rw7+7X8Ic JLU+YUgMlkuwg60FfNevBKLonZ0/VRv0ap/btT5I2i3qAASLUmRMFhcoaDfB2TicPa3p F92JrVOLwMvwaSeVRNB5Gs7qEXTPY0TOmIq8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KTcPYez1enQkFGYDg4msh9amttY3TmqlQx5XU9jIiICIyPrnUjEyjqkjtjB0fXu6L3 CwtLAHXq76n6m5QaptUZMNimnLXloTSzxuKhZuCbHjNUT7A7JZJnIhVf2+FDaQnfyHft klgDSrjYqZaTLKnr596EOHqT2ZHdsSjbst7rU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.2.18 with SMTP id e18mr167604rvi.140.1238035881799; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> References: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:51:21 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640903251951t35d873f1ydea701c8e1b5cde0@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nmap as user works, root doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:51:23 -0000 Try compiling your kernel with bpf enabled. I had the same or at least a similar problem to what you're having and enabling device bpf in the kernel fixed the problem. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Jimmie James wrote: > Can anyone make sense of this? > Straight DSL connection, no router. > using -e [any interface] results in the same errors > > nmap-4.76 > > As root: > #nmap -v -v google.ca > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT > Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.161.104. > WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to > 64.230.197.58 > nexthost: failed to determine route to 64.233.161.104 > QUITTING! > > As user: > ~>nmap -v -v google.ca > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT > Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.187.104. > Initiating Ping Scan at 22:35 > Scanning 64.233.187.104 [1 port] > Completed Ping Scan at 22:35, 0.08s elapsed (1 total hosts) > Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 22:35 > Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 22:35, 0.06s elapsed > Initiating Connect Scan at 22:35 > Scanning jc-in-f104.google.com (64.233.187.104) [1000 ports] > > #nmap -iflist > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT > ************************INTERFACES************************ > DEV (SHORT) IP/MASK TYPE UP MAC > fxp0 (fxp0) 192.168.2.100/24 ethernet up 00:11:D8:11:B7:4E > rl0 (rl0) 172.16.0.1/24 ethernet up 00:E0:29:51:C7:61 > xl0 (xl0) 10.10.10.2/24 ethernet up 00:04:75:C7:27:DA > lo0 (lo0) 127.0.0.1/8 loopback up > tun0 (tun0) 76.71.17.226/24 point2point up > > WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to > 64.230.197.58 > **************************ROUTES************************** > DST/MASK DEV GATEWAY > 64.230.197.58/32 tun0 76.71.17.226 > 127.0.0.1/32 lo0 127.0.0.1 > > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 64.230.197.58 UGS 0 832901 tun0 > 10.10.10.0/24 link#3 UC 0 0 xl0 > 10.10.10.3 02:01:02:7b:3c:72 UHLW 1 57249 xl0 1004 > 64.230.197.58 76.71.17.226 UGH 1 2 tun0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 303 lo0 > 172.16.0.0/24 link#2 UC 0 0 rl0 > 172.16.0.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 18 rl0 > 192.168.2.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > 192.168.2.1 00:0b:23:9c:f9:0c UHLW 1 1 fxp0 448 > > #ifconfig > fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:11:d8:11:b7:4e > inet6 fe80::211:d8ff:fe11:b74e%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.2.100 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:e0:29:51:c7:61 > inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe51:c761%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet 172.16.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (none) > status: no carrier > xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9 > ether 00:04:75:c7:27:da > inet6 fe80::204:75ff:fec7:27da%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet 10.10.10.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 > inet 76.71.17.226 --> 64.230.197.58 netmask 0xffffff00 > Opened by PID 13443 > > > -- > Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 02:52:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F45110656D1 for ; 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b=enZh/EPUMNR429EwDbBmSN96iXRyo2/9lmML5noEzQbHUJY+gKl6IYp6POvMLon4iz HnoPgULtd/Ep0YyzYDprdTM2LsvRQF3fz7IJ9zbts/h4pOozWP49pbc4w7KDI7Xv2hpt np6KmwQKhS+IKd2RHYSwLr99/ePeFUduLa104= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.132.3 with SMTP id f3mr184520rvd.21.1238035950239; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:52:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640903251951t35d873f1ydea701c8e1b5cde0@mail.gmail.com> References: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> <560f92640903251951t35d873f1ydea701c8e1b5cde0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640903251952r11bf2802p3301b5650b80a785@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nmap as user works, root doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:52:31 -0000 sorry about the top post. wish i could go back and fix it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 03:50:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718AC106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jesse.feinman@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E14E8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jesse.feinman@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so339153yxm.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=qSOydu0MhpHbHNEb5fVs/f1xKCfFqpxx6eH+wKyJfBk=; b=Eas0p+a0pvx/gQPd1LSQ+x1hH4DkRHyLH8mUIWsWXRRYiKttjEb/T25Zb951uqjbw2 1H/XmJZ80S0jgvPNqHA2h6vx553Y+Kpv1ebD/+44RMSfdWssNWnuAjEm0YOLoUfzWPSb q2xZS+dnFv+04Uh+qbDauBel0deEyNfoK6fNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eVUt/ev516n/1RRlNDUCFBkV7R/ro+TgWY1AODYjCGzzbIabnbK9e7q5l4WxdtIvh5 nVE6cT/f1j4VZtvYJPawoXKiVhHyRlFRuQq1oJMSnHFp/CshpOAD1lyG7R9p1ni7UgZ0 3dS0Yzd/jjZfH0QKagYAV1DJqwxDpOd/+5QII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.205.15 with SMTP id c15mr195360ang.82.1238037472277; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:17:51 -0400 Message-ID: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> From: Jesse Feinman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:50:49 -0000 I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i would like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple desktop environments and easily switch between them, preferably without restarting. The primary purpose for this is to gain complete functionality over the system utilizing all possible tools and also to evaluate the different environments to determine which one works best for me. Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case because to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE and Gnome environments and i am wondering as to how it would function if i were to switch desktops constantly. Thank you for your time, Jesse Feinman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 04:08:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB0106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D228E8FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so349080ewy.43 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:08:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6CdvmYp1L0i1TAE4qLiA6AS/fnPBeu6kukS9tC1xNjY=; b=JlkOlIPNnotZMhMcVMK1WAU97OsHOJtmSE51Gx26Al1xWNhzNp0Q4GkHxRVWkW240r BHp5rKDviriZqdv9GYKh0pUn6EVVW8SVDsUfjQnx2ppNPkw+2tLOi+O119i0CKaYhDkg ehsllVtBUh08+Ru6611K/xfxxuEYyL5yDsAwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wokzZccOsoIZyTx0udt/ClREWLUTj3HrzcRrLkdrOQMbph1GEdtV5SHV3juuahBVQ1 pQfs2wBpj9rM38ijtc1Z806XTEPqQvh+cqwxLCCyS0XKSX0VeR4wyJf7nQ0tqA03xhk7 9bgzo3zGmpByUQmyWceTKkzoad75F+LEpGRAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.11.17 with SMTP id 17mr302430ebk.25.1238040494967; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:08:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903252108y497df776wbf154e0a5da1493f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Jesse Feinman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:08:16 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Jesse Feinman wrote: > I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i would > like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple desktop > environments and easily switch between them, preferably without restarting. Restarting the computer or restarting the desktop environment? You don't need to restart the computer to switch between KDE and GNOME, for example. Not clear on what you mean here. > The primary purpose for this is to gain complete functionality over the > system utilizing all possible tools and also to evaluate the different > environments to determine which one works best for me. > Fantastic. Give Fluxbox a shot. :) > Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case because > to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE and Gnome > environments and i am wondering as to how it would function if i were to > switch desktops constantly. > Why wouldn't you be able to? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 04:11:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFF3106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FD38FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A6D3CDC7; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:11:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2Q4BR5W003153; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:11:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:11:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jesse Feinman Message-Id: <20090326051127.e3e8dbaf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:11:45 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:17:51 -0400, Jesse Feinman wrote: > I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i would > like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple desktop > environments and easily switch between them, preferably without restarting. That's no problem. First of all, install the desktop environments and window managers that you want. As far as I know, the "big two", KDE and Gnome, come with a means to select what DE / WM to use at login time through their kdm and gdm. Additionally, wdm offers you to choose the DE / WM at login time. This simply requires a login / logout procedure, no restarting of the computer. You can even have it more simple: Don't start X along with the system, login at the console. Modify the "exec " statement in your ~/.xinitrc and type "startx" to perform the DE / WM startup you have in this file (you can put comment signs infront of those you don't like, "enabling" the one you want to run). Or you could have several aliases / commands to start X with the DE / WM you want, each with a specific ~/.xinitrc file to fit your needs. > The primary purpose for this is to gain complete functionality over the > system utilizing all possible tools [...] In principle it's not required to run a specific DE in order to run a program that comes with this DE. For example, you can perfectly run K3B within WindowMaker, as long as all the dependencies of K3B are installed on your system. You can run Gmplayer without Gnome, you can run Koffice in XFCE and so forth... > [...] and also to evaluate the different > environments to determine which one works best for me. Then, if you won't change the DE / WM every five minutes, you can go with the ~/.xinitrc approach. Short example: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & #exec gnome-ession #exec fvwm #exec startkde #exec xfwm exec wmaker This will start WindowMaker. > Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case because > to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE and Gnome > environments and i am wondering as to how it would function if i were to > switch desktops constantly. It would be no problem, as far as I know. I'm not very familiar with Compiz because I'm already tired of eye-candy. :-) You can even use Compiz with XFCE, or use its own compositing functionalities. As far as I understood, Compiz is an addition to the respective DE / WM, and while the DE / WM will run happily without Compiz, those that don't utilize it won't have problems. If Compiz needs specific settings in ~/.xinitrc, you can put some kind of conditional into this file, loading Compiz only with the DE / WM you want. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 04:14:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51BF106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B29B8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so343833yxm.13 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:14:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8MGOT0e5sto/Vxr28xdtLOXiE4SpSjRWeDHAFzzAA4o=; b=O/e0knTmci0sRLMVqjvdPh5Pj16YMa96io3htdTBNsTYpFkUVRNnFXZRqNoIvnBhGS VeymivNSoGYbGEKP+tL7r3uWiT2Ad47XRE6LN6pINtzAR3a4n5KSpzjKCffJgrVP0njw D+vIQLxYz3n4FeoL3vKgkodzEoyELZ6e/mfjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XpNgSx6f73Pk5JKojDV+Pj/7I7zjVbF14k+UI6lkbvguK1Kp1geAWr7Uouly6AdDAv xhLS852I23TYmBXyTDAqMEU6iGYm3irB5mLemPOaQyHh9GbW/zP1Y/DQXr/yq0FMzSEz MQih0GA9/2s6SEggDyTGXnYwflfEJ36GSGTC8= Received: by 10.100.58.19 with SMTP id g19mr223190ana.56.1238040856834; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm13418278agd.67.2009.03.25.21.14.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CB0117.80205@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:14:15 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:14:18 -0000 Jesse Feinman wrote: > I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i would > like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple desktop > environments and easily switch between them, preferably without restarting. > The primary purpose for this is to gain complete functionality over the > system utilizing all possible tools and also to evaluate the different > environments to determine which one works best for me. > > Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case because > to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE and Gnome > environments and i am wondering as to how it would function if i were to > switch desktops constantly. > > Thank you for your time, > Jesse Feinman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > First part is pretty easy to do using kdm in fact it's essentially as simple as making sure your X and WM's work, then enabling kdm. Not too sure the answer on the rest. I would guess it wouldn't be a problem though provided no config diffs between the two. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 06:18:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E69106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB6C8FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.174.152]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <49CB1E1C.4030808@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:18:04 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com References: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> <49CA1EF0.4060708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CA1EF0.4060708@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 06:17:52.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[980EEAC0:01C9ADDA] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:18:15 -0000 Ricardo Jesus wrote: > Fbsd1 wrote: >> I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD >> containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. >> >> What is the mount command to use? >> >> Thinking mount /dev/ad1 /mnt but un-sure how this handles the 6.1 >> slices on that HD. >> > Read up http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html, > namely entries 9.1 and 9.2. Very detailed and helpful stuff. > None of that was helpfull. Found post in questions archives from 1992 that gave me pointer to correct direction. Here is the solution I used. ls /dev/ad* listed all the slices on both HDs. mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt mounted the /usr dir from the second HD just like i wanted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 06:23:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBD21065673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5A8FC20 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMW6yknDDR9Z/2dsb2JhbADSVoN2Bg Received: from event89.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 07:23:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:20:38 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090326062038.GA40288@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: WINE installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:23:09 -0000 Hi, My WINE was running fine, but while performing a portupgrade I got an error message. So I decided to remove WINE and reinstall. Now I can't install it either. I get the following message ===> wine-1.1.17,1 builds, but fails upon startup. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/wine. What to do to get this solved? Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 07:39:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CE71065670 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083298FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2Q7ddlo021848; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n2Q7dcjW021845; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:38 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:38 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:39:41 -0000 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: >> What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, >> so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? > > I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: > > xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & > This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21" CRT. > If you think you need further options, consult "man xbiff". :-) >From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts it in my upper right corner, but if I put that in my .xinitrc (and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. Are you using kdm window manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon" xterm on secure) Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 07:52:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7F0106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0B78FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2Q7qL6G044816 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2Q7qLkj044813 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:52:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Marvell Sheeva X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:52:31 -0000 http://www.semihalf.com/portfolio.html does it mean FreeBSD will work on sheevaplug? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 08:05:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53E4106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=329b966fc=ajeeshjoseph@in.com) Received: from mx2.in.com (MX2.IN.com [123.108.40.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C3A8FC22 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=329b966fc=ajeeshjoseph@in.com) DomainKey-Signature: s=irp2-01-r5-c1.spam.dc1; d=in.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=To:X-Originating-IP:From:Message-ID:Date:Subject: Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Kv9tsWYGjj0ABjZDNCRZHlutdZ8ryjAXchhuA9UjyFIsGKpuUUjR48Mf +a//Al+GsgDSw51LBttyOWJCgK/9XlXu6PPeQaBHLRP9aiqC+fkDZeZVr 7gfK7FHhVrnXi9A; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=in.com; i=ajeeshjoseph@in.com; l=1164; q=dns/txt; s=irp2-01-r5-c1.spam.dc1; t=1238054750; x=1269590750; h=to:x-originating-ip:from:message-id:date:subject: reply-to:mime-version:content-type; z=To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|X-Originating-IP:=20 59.92.180.71|From:=20"ajeesh=20joseph"=20|Message-ID:=20<1238053856.9acf7769aeea55e2b2505c887 10d4293@mail.in.com>|Date:=20Thu,=2026=20Mar=202009=2013: 20:56=20+0530|Subject:=20=3D?UTF-8?B?RXJyb3IgTW91bnRpbmcg L2Rldi9hY2QwIG9uIC9kaXN0OiBpbnB1dC9vdXRwdXQgZXJyb3IgKDUp? =3D|Reply-To:=20"ajeesh=20joseph"=20 |MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/alternativ e=3B=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20boundary=3D"--83ee01517d17 ae2b82e468627fb395268895"; bh=Z3p9fkbUlYwq+GP7asUuUKmZ/Gik4dbZ0CpmlgTo8bk=; b=MrLevSL16e3v/1R57hTz55ubjKmN2H9qTa9s5/wBw/pG7jNdT1S4+D9e txITjY3FCdS3MSGjJB88MkAMpNEeimCbz1fDZs0N5Wubvoeu9j7d1aUNV u+nmpIBxeffnCm1; To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Originating-IP: 59.92.180.71 From: "ajeesh joseph" Message-ID: <1238053856.9acf7769aeea55e2b2505c88710d4293@mail.in.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:20:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Error Mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist: input/output error (5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ajeesh joseph List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:05:51 -0000 hi all,i was trying to install the freebsd7.0 to my USB HDD from my sony cd/dvd.during the installation process i get error " Error Mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist: input/output error (5)"can you please help me in solving this,Dear freebsdquestions! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 08:29:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B381A106567F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@bert-jan.com) Received: from bert-jan.com (bert-jan.com [81.23.226.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FA38FC24 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@bert-jan.com) Received: (qmail 23632 invoked by uid 1011); 26 Mar 2009 09:03:04 +0100 Received: from 83.161.214.5 by bert-jan (envelope-from , uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.94/8177. spamassassin: 3.2.3. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(83.161.214.5):. 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(postmaster@bert-jan.com@83.161.214.5) by bert-jan.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 09:03:04 +0100 Message-ID: <49CB36BB.9010904@bert-jan.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:03:07 +0100 From: Bert-Jan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atom 330 testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:29:47 -0000 I have this exact same board, also updated the bios after some bootup trouble, and found that the onboard nic isn't supported until 7.1. Indeed it can cause trouble on older kernels because I couldn't get 7.0-release up and running properly. Luckily 7.1-RC2 was released the day after I got the board and that went up just fine. Ever since then I've had it running my home fileserver with 2x1.5TB seagate disks with gmirror and 2GB ram without problems. Warren Block schreef: > Testing a mini-ITX Intel D945GCLF2 motherboard with Atom 330 processor. > > The 330 is the dual-core HTT version of the Atom 270 found in all the > netbooks. Shows up as four processors on FreeBSD. The board has > SATA, IDE, PCI, onboard video, and Realtek 8111C Ethernet. > > > This board was shaky until I updated the BIOS from version 99 to > version 150. Yay Intel for providing a bootable ISO ROM update image! > > It still has two major issues: > > 1. Get to the FreeBSD loader prompt and type a few commands. Just ? > once or twice, for example. It locks up in the middle of output or > the screen goes black. A hardware reset works. > > 2. It shuts itself off while the kernel is starting, usually just after > "Starting network". Disabling the onboard Realtek 8111C seems to fix > this. Note that it does sometimes manage to boot with re0 enabled. > Works fine after that, including network. An xubuntu 8.10 liveCD > also shuts off during boot. I haven't tried other OSes. > > After it has turned itself off, keyboard numlock LED remains on, power > and reset buttons do nothing. AC power has to be turned off or > disconnected to clear it and let it start up again. > > Right now it has -current, although the problems seem the same as with > 7-stable. I can try debugging or tests if problem #1 permits. > > This board would make a very nice low-power server if it could boot > reliably. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 09:29:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41141065674 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0AA8FC17 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.152] (nb-rs-valinho.critical.pt [192.168.1.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C070B228302; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:26 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49CB4AE6.2090609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:10 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> <49CA1EF0.4060708@gmail.com> <49CB1E1C.4030808@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <49CB1E1C.4030808@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:17 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Ricardo Jesus wrote: >> Fbsd1 wrote: >>> I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD >>> containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. >>> >>> What is the mount command to use? >>> >>> Thinking mount /dev/ad1 /mnt but un-sure how this handles the 6.1 >>> slices on that HD. >>> >> Read up >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html, >> namely entries 9.1 and 9.2. Very detailed and helpful stuff. >> > > None of that was helpfull. Found post in questions archives from 1992 > that gave me pointer to correct direction. > > Here is the solution I used. > > ls /dev/ad* listed all the slices on both HDs. > mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt mounted the /usr dir from the second HD just > like i wanted. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > My interpretation of your original post was that you wanted to move /usr to the 2nd HD ;) So I pointed to 2 FAQs that addressed the matter. Anyways glad that you worked it out. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 09:42:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50835106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298CE8FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2Q9bciQ061862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:37:38 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n2Q9fNPU061102; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:41:23 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:41:23 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903260941.n2Q9fNPU061102@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com In-reply-to: <49CB4AE6.2090609@gmail.com> (message from Ricardo Jesus on Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:29:10 +0000) References: <49C9FFA6.6070802@a1poweruser.com> <49CA1EF0.4060708@gmail.com> <49CB1E1C.4030808@a1poweruser.com> <49CB4AE6.2090609@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: mount 2nd HD containing running Freebsd system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:42:46 -0000 >>> I have run out of space on my running 7.1 system. I have a 2nd HD >>> containing 6.1 that I want to mount and use the 80gb /usr slice. >>> >>> What is the mount command to use? In order to give you the right answer, we would need to know how that disk was organised: - slice (of fdisk type); use the command fdisk -s /dev/da1 - partitions (or disklabel); use the command disklabel /dev/da1s1 (if the slice with FreeBSD is the slice 1) - Now you may have used your disk witout slice, I cannot help, or without partition (like Linux), I cannot help either. You can also run /sur/sbin/sysinstall. In Configure choice, you will have two menus, Fdisk and Label, that does the same thing as the command fdisk and disklabel. Only when you know what you want to mount, we can tell you how to mount it. Best regards, olviier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 11:24:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79109106567D for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86F28FC12 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so473964fxm.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=4mPPXo9GKEV936iFP7ftp3buiDC2KTK7uD4C3lXLfoE=; b=K3a7nLx91v8VdruIL3SU1hIGLabTG/IDIVEkZAeF22OWrCK9U2xlaZnjVmB5P3qx2B B8wjsoXMEd71JDy61LdQub/rTBby6F74+8F6pBOXaf5zV1AlxUkcKBPP1VFu0TMzjiWK u12WCJtf4L+YAl425bBJjNiU2eYY9zsrrma20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OlgBhZKn4kHAEUFO0HuA7wOXqfL3Q+vbJ0WIfW1j143t8JcyhjmuVEsuPRjI4SE4XQ 2s/ULmzHkQM6TZ5Q7hsilNEfOuoiiVI/q06Cy2WLAQsMeR8aak8h7ivFRowYKpt4JX/t Ykyh/Lyto1/++XKHkVEDhAJd1MIailaKEHRd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.9 with SMTP id z9mr590309fao.1.1238066680769; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:24:40 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:42 -0000 Hello list, I have installed and configured a FreeBSD system based on 7.1-RELEASE (not that it matters so much) and I want a way in which I can duplicate this on several other machines. What is the easiest and the simplest way? Please consider the K.I.S.S principle. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 13:05:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FDB106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0748FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2QD51nC046016; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2QD4xHb046013; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:04:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:05:11 -0000 > Hello list, > > I have installed and configured a FreeBSD system based on 7.1-RELEASE (not > that it matters so much) and I want a way in which I can duplicate this on > several other machines. > What is the easiest and the simplest way? Please consider the K.I.S.S > principle. > boot liveCD, allow rsh on one machine (.rhosts etc) and do on each new. 1) clean beginning of disk: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=64k count=1 make labels as you wish bsdlabel -w ad0 bsdlabel -e ad0 (replace ad0 with something different if it is, or maybe more drives) if you use gmirror/gstripe whatever do it here. 2) bsdlabel -B ad0 (install bootrecord) perform newfs on each partition with options you like mount target root partition on /mnt, make subdirs for other partitions (if any), mount others under /mnt/subdir 3) rsh -l installedmachine "tar --one-file-system -cf - / /otherpartition /anotherpartition"|tar -C /mnt -xpvf - this will copy all files. be sure to specify all mountpoint in tar -cf - ... 4) edit all needed files like /mnt/etc/rc.conf 5) /sbin/reboot -q From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 13:10:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598CC106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D889A8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so521471fxm.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qj6DwdExVBuoSp08MvdrYuqggNF1/iwVqGB7ZSJFOvo=; b=CnC5MILfaiOvh0iC50ifyTqUzx8s+2kA7qsyaiseDwj7a0XVzDNoGm+okgI8Moyb+m cQGKZfESaQfIPsGXFyI1B6EmfJ6qChAET7j6fiPtlEgtMY9Bnn1xDTwgqbniraAgacvE I2cCjeOluXCV5nUDoGkR49ipzHwLjcWSM0IvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c3Ml7Apeb0xenMHdtDi875o16owRFh03vasff/mLKc3S5UjvOhLMRE7Lqn5Zp6CX+N mjAhUxJE5lKyDehqiSEdXNbLDFB382GdSnfBHnqQKrHOky1Cu94dbT4Qi7qh7qlLlHum zI+PBJLDlJGNhKvwIIkBUAKN6nChG6wCw9zx0= Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr1060927fga.59.1238073051990; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm339405fga.10.2009.03.26.06.10.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:10:48 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090326131048.58cf37ad@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090326062038.GA40288@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20090326062038.GA40288@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: WINE installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:10:54 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:20:38 +0100 "Alain G. Fabry" wrote: > Hi, > > My WINE was running fine, but while performing a portupgrade I got an > error message. So I decided to remove WINE and reinstall. Now I can't > install it either. If you ever do that again, make a package first. > I get the following message > ===> wine-1.1.17,1 builds, but fails upon startup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/wine. I'd suggest you either get an old package of wine, or install portdowngrade and use it to take the wine port back to a previous version. wine-1.1.16,1 works for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 14:46:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3FC106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FB8FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so562361ewy.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:46:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ds4eysdFTMMl0uQf06hHqVZFmgVIDGj38xqYLlOcOG8=; b=nWepIp6OYep8+2WFmDw0sN1Y+V9aDevi35Ysp9nsNtnbjRq/EfaIKNnpcZ21IRUt4C HS4pShgHdbRjMzt4Xqr1otLEe+uEuKnnV6HJE4FRc2q2/GeZATvzZuh3W0VyXIiabj1X rmvqiqU/6xIMTYmEMm+ZEU2+23qE4kxadE5WE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xaIJVKGXPwCcr3U5OVFRaYnnnK9JqUS0Hd6rIycYMJFAPIAqaiWmv5o4sfVO1Tb5AO HaCWnvpHIduNSAJ3PUi6Gr8m4rfFl3QS9V4q2iFkAaT6FvFA2WBKj3ins/ACJz3mAgFC 9DGvTHf+5fU1oBUhCk8Kaeo2hzW+G4ijuyQPg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.47.201 with SMTP id t51mr347941web.198.1238077403065; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:23:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:23:23 +0300 Message-ID: From: Eric Magutu To: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:46:24 -0000 Hi everyone, Thanks for all your input so far. I have tried to implement all you suggestions but have gotten stuck. I set up a test machine in the office with the ip 10.0.0.110 and encountered the following problems: when I enables antispoofing the firewall didn't work when I tried allowing the 10.0.0.0 subnet it worked ok but when i tried connecting from machines on the 172.16 subnet I was unable to connect. Can you please let me know what I'm doing wrong? ############# #interfaces # ############# ext_if="le0" #ext_if2="bce1" ##################### #ports to be opened # ##################### #tcp ports good_port_tcp="{ 80, 110, 143, 161, 443, 873 }" #udp ports good_port_udp="{ 161, 873 }" ########################## #block all other traffic # ########################## # should be the first rule block in on $ext_if all ################ #anti-spoofing # ################ #traffic can't come in on your IP's #antispoof quick for { lo0 $ext_if $ext_if2 } inet ############################################# #allow all connections from and to loopback # ############################################# pass in quick on lo0 all keep state pass out quick on lo0 all keep state ######################################################## #allow all connections out through external interfaces # ######################################################## pass out quick on $ext_if all keep state ############## #Blocked ips # ############## #put ips or ip blocks as below badguys="{ 192.168.1.100, 192.160.1.2, 192.168.200.0/24 }" block in quick on $ext_if from $badguys ############################ #smtp connections allowed # ############################ #European servers pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from x.x.x.0/26 to 10.0.0.110 port 25 keep state #American pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from x.x.x.0/26 to 10.0.0.110 port 25 keep state #from the old iptables??? pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from x.x.x.0/27 to 10.0.0.110 port 25 keep state ################################### # pass traffic from allowed ports # ################################### #pass traffic from allowed tcp ports pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.110 port $good_port_tcp keep state #pass traffic from allowed udp ports pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.110 port $good_port_tcp keep state ########################################## # allow connections from NMC and servers # ########################################## #my ip pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp, icmp } from 10.0.0.58 to 10.0.0.110 keep state #172.16.0.0/12 are the ips NMC access with pass in on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp, icmp } from 172.16.0.0/8 to 10.0.0.110 keep state ################## # enable logging # ################## block in log on $ext_if # to view log run command below #tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 ################################################## #for any questions contact me# ################################################## On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost < mksmith@adhost.com> wrote: > I also forgot to mention: > > You should probably log your block rule so that you can see what's going on > if things don't work as expected. > > So: > > block in log on $ext_if > > Note the lack of "quick" as well, as previously mentioned. > > With logging enabled, provided you have pflog running (which you should), > you can use the following to see what's being blocked. > > tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 (provided pflog0 is your pflog interface). > > Regards, > > Mike > -- Regards, Eric Magutu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:00:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EECC106567E for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net [79.135.125.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66B28FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-179-6-169.dsl.pipex.com ([81.179.6.169] helo=[192.168.1.246] country=GB ident=postmaster$pop3$waywood*co#uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 49cb9581.6dc9.7a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:47:29 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:47:27 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:00:42 -0000 I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere and go no response. I want to install wine, but without X on the system. Obviously trying to do this from ports drags in loads of X-related stuff. There doesn't seem to be a WITHOUT_X11 knob available for the wine port (presuambly because hardly anyone would want it). I guess that leaves me installing it the 'old-fashioned' way, but unfortunately my inexperience leaves me floundering here! Because FreeBSD has such a wonderful ports system, all documentation I can find for installing from source refers to ports, and I have not found a single one showing a layman how to install from source manually, and what problems I have to look out for. As you can probably tell, I lack a lot experience, so keep it fairly monosyllabic please! (In case you wonder what on earth I want this for, it is to run a 'render slave' which is Windows only, and simply runs in the background - it would not even count as a 'console application'. I have three very underused FreeBSD servers and they could do with some rendering work to keep them from getting bored, but I don't want X cluttering them up.) Any help gratefully received Thanks Barnaby Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:07:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA8C106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ionut.vancea@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9328FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ionut.vancea@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so563285bwz.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/t3f/hMtMqi1UZgPmpOmFppTyYNwMFSVA33uQ3vBZ4Y=; b=lImvi12XYOiUFoX9TaAthfNJxIxWC9cCJGU6sVGDbcAfSD1WORKFdqM47D8hTEIqUt v0J98zugNTWHcaGLFrgy57hyH1GEg0JHkp3qTmzzENqGfo/85RG5Zagmrlo71Gmcsmvp Qzq8ZBK2HukocC1YAidFmyVipxFrde5F1ti7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SBc+yCx8Drd/KVB3qLDOaO+B0BrZSIA83ldkTwCEMm1DszlzO5rtPT94I4CmsgzfZc Fc5KEu7sn84p+n8PDGNFxx9JMJKZJszrBX9T0spE5d2/EcOASPR2hCgr4ZNz2ceGxEzh JLZ6JHpFnWRGBZSV1r1dMOKRbcFcHnm3zj6XQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.212.2 with SMTP id o2mr422130muq.131.1238078483257; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:41:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: <368177940903260741h1dbcb501t26e3adadfc11443d@mail.gmail.com> From: Ionut Vancea To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:07:34 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello list, > > I have installed and configured a FreeBSD system based on 7.1-RELEASE (not > that it matters so much) and I want a way in which I can duplicate this on > several other machines. > What is the easiest and the simplest way? Please consider the K.I.S.S > principle. maybe using Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ (it does not support UFS, but il will create a dd copy of your hdd/partition). But you have a user interface, so maybe it is easier to work with. If not, you can boot a livecd and you can use standard tools, like: dd, dump/restore, tar, .. In handbook you will find some useful start tips. Cheers, -- === Ioan Vancea http://www.vioan.ro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:24:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA38E1065675 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ADB8FC1C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18495EBC0A; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:08 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Barnaby Scott Message-Id: <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:24:12 -0000 In response to Barnaby Scott : > I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere > and go no response. > > I want to install wine, but without X on the system. Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral part of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all without X installed -- which is probably why you're not getting any answers. Perhaps you should back up and consider what you're trying to accomplish. If you don't need a GUI, then what programs do you expect to run under wine, and is there some better way to get them? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:39:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76A7106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336238FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmrfx-0006zB-Ld; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:25 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2QFdO2G022566; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:24 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D572EFCA699; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:18 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Pieter Donche Message-ID: <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Pieter Donche , Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:39:31 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:39:38AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote: > > >On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche > > wrote: > >>What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, > >>so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? > > > >I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: > > > > xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & > >This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21" CRT. > >If you think you need further options, consult "man xbiff". :-) > > >From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts > it in my upper right corner, but if I put that in my .xinitrc > (and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. Are you using kdm window > manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon" xterm on secure) > > Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? > Probably not. ~/.xinitrc is only run when you use startx and ~/.xsession is used when you run the display manager xdm(1). I believe kdm also uses xsession. This is all IIRC. I haven't used a display manager for sometime and I've never used kdm. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:41:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A974810657D1 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A9E8FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 11:41:11 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KSZ12414; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 11:41:08 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18891.41491.32334.303252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:41:07 -0400 To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Barnaby Scott , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:14 -0000 Bill Moran writes: > > I want to install wine, but without X on the system. > > Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral > part of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all > without X installed -- which is probably why you're not getting > any answers. I'm not that familiar with Wine - does it support use of the Windows command prompt? I can conceive of a program which requires Windows libraries or the kernel, but does not use the gui. (Though I agree that at that point finding a non-Windows solution becomes increasingly attractive.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 15:49:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70361106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C108FC17 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so490405ywh.13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:49:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kyHL4lPMJpon2h1VegqSFESwsFwGwtK5HqsfOjrcboU=; b=Q8JU0sUNJpkGYhmfoPHGBJheZicEH/WNgbf74yatUa/E3s5VDGSVpjbdbLFOrKksQm VGDGd6ToVk24IiVyrTStA3YSVuttxGnFF5nMFe8dzN0+ywue18SC2wMzIvQkh3YYUQrt fuGs+c3TgvF6WO7h7X/Vb/b7OGd1DEEoSITgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y9a6Xol/0SV2kqwC5+QD+k0plbjbS8qVyDbe05Nf42KsDxJrcsUJ7g4gwyYEskPwOf 1zDBiDnPExchqWAo8w7zjxBO/v1VTloFTB0na9Ko8bNu2WhHfw2lIiQXnGKqwFZ7CTdA FSnKQdEYdhhpHU3ZklFuj04aWedF8M/f/mKtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.156.20 with SMTP id d20mr2242838ybe.168.1238082572416; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:49:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18891.41491.32334.303252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <18891.41491.32334.303252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions , bds@waywood.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:33 -0000 2009/3/26 Robert Huff : > > Bill Moran writes: > >> =A0> I want to install wine, but without X on the system. >> >> =A0Why would you expect this to be possible? =A0The GUI is an integral >> =A0part of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all >> =A0without X installed -- which is probably why you're not getting >> =A0any answers. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'm not that familiar with Wine - does it support use of t= he > Windows command prompt? =A0I can conceive of a program which requires > Windows libraries or the kernel, but does not use the gui. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(Though I agree that at that point finding a non-Windows > solution becomes increasingly attractive.) > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Robert Huf= f > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > If you're most worried about 'cluttering' up your base system, a jail (8) could be the answer for you. X chomps a little hard drive space for sure, but if it's in a jail, there're no package crossovers. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:25:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25626106567D for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FE98FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2QGPPCN005052; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:25:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n2QGPPrw005049; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:25:25 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:25:24 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Frank Shute In-Reply-To: <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:28 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:39:38AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: >> >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche >>> wrote: >>>> What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, >>>> so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? >>> >>> I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: >>> >>> xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & >>> This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21" CRT. >>> If you think you need further options, consult "man xbiff". :-) >> >>> From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts >> it in my upper right corner, but if I put that in my .xinitrc >> (and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. Are you using kdm window >> manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: >> ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon" xterm on secure) >> >> Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? > > Probably not. > ~/.xinitrc is only run when you use startx and ~/.xsession is used > when you run the display manager xdm(1). > I believe kdm also uses xsession. no xbiff icon neither when put in an .xsession file Also nothing to see about this xbiff in the file .session-errors-MYDISPLAYNAME:0 ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:27:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8701410656C5 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from upali.r@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410948FC12 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from upali.r@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so448698qwb.7 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=yJBDkGtS6JWlXAoNpP+csRDSoFBEBXIrI7zWPeJBtV0=; b=YIFby8Gn6h4BvUYY0EkUnsYk4vY78mqmzNaLUEoT5g/LowQusOpTZdHd3R2VaUaCIU WXXjuEIim83/Eqb20FpwVLYNVz0Ble1kyLFNbe8ODW72EYS+waR9AJDPD5hLQYq5UsFH iG4mOUWwaOt/D9XtONYsZMTMHO0f7/cYL73w0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=r5WbLWa5QKhRhuwQCpNaUik78cWgQEUabUL1q3AWF7Xhm9Of17DrzO9eGm1i96by/o +VyjhuksfkhjxOkPkOsbtzpxD4OyK+JBRPLDor4ewkxiR1qCI2InWedv3Bd3lsK/XCiB mDxP+gz9faDLANy+s/Dn+r3xrMSWzXwpUby+A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.139.14 with SMTP id m14mr414684wfd.309.1238082881997; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:24:41 +0530 Message-ID: <1fdf83980903260854u6695205bg546d40706098f174@mail.gmail.com> From: Upali Rajapakse To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:27:09 -0000 I installed postfix on frebsd 7 i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. can you help me? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:33:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1B51065754 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in02.adhost.com (mail-in02.adhost.com [216.211.128.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135BD8FC18 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (exchange.adhost.com [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86702CBCD3B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-pgp-encoding-format: MIME x-pgp-mapi-encoding-version: 2.5.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="PGP_Universal_50CFAC38_8E27EF7A_A6125355_CF2A4A92"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 x-pgp-encoding-version: 2.0.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:33:38 -0700 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B42A8F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: first firewall with pf Thread-Index: AcmuHm2fFK+SuZ+hTu2KD1NArbF7rQAEabcw References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "Eric Magutu" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:33:41 -0000 --PGP_Universal_50CFAC38_8E27EF7A_A6125355_CF2A4A92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello Eric: Hi everyone, Can you provide a little more information about your topology? Right now, = you only have one interface defined in your rules, but you are attempting t= o pass traffic between two subnets. That would suggest you have two interf= aces and, if so, both need to be accounted for in your rules below. You'll= have to have pass/block rules for both. It looks like this: 172.16.0.0/16 -> le0 -> (some other interface) -> 10.0.0.0 Could you tell me if that is correct? Thanks, Mike ----- Original Message Snipped ----- Thanks for all your input so far. I have tried to implement all you suggest= ions but have gotten stuck. I set up a test machine in the office with the = ip 10.0.0.110=C2=A0 and encountered the following problems: when I enables antispoofing the firewall didn't work=20 when I tried allowing the 10.0.0.0 subnet it worked ok but when i tried con= necting from machines on the 172.16 subnet I was unable to connect.=20 Can you please let me know what I'm doing wrong?=20 ---------------------------------------- --PGP_Universal_50CFAC38_8E27EF7A_A6125355_CF2A4A92 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PGP.sig" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.9.1 (Build 287) iQEVAwUBScuuYvTXQhZ+XcVAAQi6Kgf/XkAf0SSrFMAYa6r5FZGCLp4gJ6o+nIIz 2z1e4vUHq4OV46q6ADTHyu5ELVrGiwweKr2Ix97vmNEVSfGbHGxSezdtLK7Zh5zp GY4GwAMyL4DtCu9rT43U4AXmsDzNK1A7gJdfuIO8dwXwB2PDeTLhsb394Ygvla/1 +xYx3guNBdyLxxRE8pfAf9AnzAkgOIKM/hz3FWWo0ucepHEKgVUjQ8xejCA5siz4 UdWsx3Iu/NKXyjds+iAAYaKMnVLV6GazfMpt6Tw9/Xu/5Po4gX8qJfP0C7KX1kgo yis9YJM1cvB0M+fVtZzSwLQQFZWGjQRCT8+mk9soZMKPjMB/XY79gw== =AohS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PGP_Universal_50CFAC38_8E27EF7A_A6125355_CF2A4A92-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:49:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3DB1065673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BA88FC12 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2QGnJae046607; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2QGnIi5046604; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:18 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Barnaby Scott In-Reply-To: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:49:32 -0000 > no response. > > I want to install wine, but without X on the system. Obviously trying to do what you want to do with wine not having X? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:50:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55ACB106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5DE8FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2QGnui6046618; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2QGnuu8046615; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:49:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ionut Vancea In-Reply-To: <368177940903260741h1dbcb501t26e3adadfc11443d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> <368177940903260741h1dbcb501t26e3adadfc11443d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Odhiambo Washington , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:50:03 -0000 >> principle. > > maybe using Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ (it does not support unix is good enough to not need extra tools to do this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 16:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D74D1065673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEAD8FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmsq5-0007Lo-Ho; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:57 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2QGrt3h013448; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:55 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 32B8EFCA6A1; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:50 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Pieter Donche Message-ID: <20090326165350.GA84537@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Pieter Donche , Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:55 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:59 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:25:24PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Frank Shute wrote: > > >On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:39:38AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > >> > >>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche > >>> wrote: > >>>>What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, > >>>>so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? > >>> > >>>I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: > >>> > >>> xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & > >>>This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21" CRT. > >>>If you think you need further options, consult "man xbiff". :-) > >> > >>>From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts > >>it in my upper right corner, but if I put that in my .xinitrc > >>(and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. Are you using kdm window > >>manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: > >>ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon" xterm on secure) > >> > >>Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? > > > >Probably not. > >~/.xinitrc is only run when you use startx and ~/.xsession is used > >when you run the display manager xdm(1). > >I believe kdm also uses xsession. > > no xbiff icon neither when put in an .xsession file > Also nothing to see about this xbiff in the file > .session-errors-MYDISPLAYNAME:0 > ?? My memory sucks :( Since you haven't got an answer here, I guess you will have to post to a KDE list. Or alternatively use a KDE biff. Or launch xbiff& from an xterm or similar in KDE. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 17:08:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242771065672 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811E68FC15 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so642151ewy.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:07:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=l/aRKFGq9LOArqOmLn81VXgz8fw5s1+AwmLMOtemKxw=; b=udKL2iZwWPfii2EKy29dBLc6YV2d+sQ5SeaX0OKJoCZpBz2yH1j63N0iy/9bbqVUD4 9rrl0W/R/A4p5214dq9nbSI+NUoxGePiziNYJ8/ARRtC3NEzXgwEyvS0e6vHVVn07xad gxlzfgyRci1+g3le/BfNhilWkRx6NrduxGFtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jr1JL+ystgz7pUUl5Ke5kG4uxK8sinvOIln1PEetaazRU7G54qx0mURgwZS2x+rZPk W6rEQKh/i/Xvzi+m7Qi2TYD1JKnMFNJkNo0I56hnYlwUPuq9fgU6D+I9ZIkMfTC5JTec EqVkpmI6kOfLcqCJK/rK8DdImQnmceKjHCu7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.80 with SMTP id h58mr449363wea.159.1238087279367; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:07:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B42A8F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B42A8F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:07:59 +0300 Message-ID: From: Eric Magutu To: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:08:01 -0000 Hi Micheal, I was trying to simulate the conditions of the server on a test machine. I'm pretty sure now I didn't take into account all the network aspects, silly mistake :-) Its probably my routing. I will check on my routes tomorrow and get back to you. I think there is only one active interface though. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost < mksmith@adhost.com> wrote: > Hello Eric: > > > Hi everyone, > > Can you provide a little more information about your topology? Right now, > you only have one interface defined in your rules, but you are attempting to > pass traffic between two subnets. That would suggest you have two > interfaces and, if so, both need to be accounted for in your rules below. > You'll have to have pass/block rules for both. It looks like this: > > 172.16.0.0/16 -> le0 -> (some other interface) -> 10.0.0.0 > > Could you tell me if that is correct? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > ----- Original Message Snipped ----- > Thanks for all your input so far. I have tried to implement all you > suggestions but have gotten stuck. I set up a test machine in the office > with the ip 10.0.0.110 and encountered the following problems: > > when I enables antispoofing the firewall didn't work > > when I tried allowing the 10.0.0.0 subnet it worked ok but when i tried > connecting from machines on the 172.16 subnet I was unable to connect. > > Can you please let me know what I'm doing wrong? > ---------------------------------------- > -- Regards, Eric Magutu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 17:12:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37CE10657FB for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net [79.135.125.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5768FC25 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-179-6-169.dsl.pipex.com ([81.179.6.169] helo=[192.168.1.246] country=GB ident=postmaster^pop3$waywood#co*uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 49cbb774.5d43.5cb; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:20 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:17 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:26 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Barnaby Scott : > >> I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere >> and go no response. >> >> I want to install wine, but without X on the system. > > Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral part > of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all without X > installed -- which is probably why you're not getting any answers. > > Perhaps you should back up and consider what you're trying to accomplish. > If you don't need a GUI, then what programs do you expect to run under > wine, and is there some better way to get them? > Thanks for your reply I know this is possible because I have seen discussion of it in Linux and wine forums. I'm just too inexperienced to know which bits of the instructions are OS-specific, and what other nightmares I might face. I might be able to figure it all out by weeks of trial and error, but that seems crazy if someone has been there before me! As for why I want it to run, that is because the application I want to run is a bolt-on to a specific bit of rendering software that we use, and there really is no viable non-Windows replacement in our situation - believe me, if there was, I'd be using it. (In case you care, we are talking about Vray for Rhino, which we use because we use Rhino, and because we use Rhino we chose RhinoCAM, and because we chose RhinoCAM I spent weeks writing software to make it talk to our CNC equipment, whose controller is inextricably Windows-based... you get the picture!) In answer to the other replies (thanks to you guys too): Yes, wine is fine with just the command prompt. It is somewhat confusing in that it offers a thing called wineconsole, but ironically that *does* appear to require X. Just using wine without X is fine, so long as the app does not attempt to open any sort of window, system tray etc. As for the 'cluttering' - I'm not so worried about disk space, that's cheap these days. It's more a question of updating ports. When I once made the mistake of installing X and various other things I turned out not to need, the process of updating everything became a nightmare - stuff breaking because I hadn't read the updating info for a bunch of fonts or something stupid like that. Multiply that by 3 servers, and, well, no thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 17:41:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0C410656CE for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3094E8FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so529880yxm.13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7ZaBt0HNpXopQuq0s415KvUgzkI24/4fEnXckJm0wJc=; b=lRFPv1ekJjlbr5gxe/3CHFDtrbytLGE5l9pY2rgfz7QTwu7LCnYNjg8ghWzsrhaBrZ Mz2Ij02ZAdtFrnvGLVsSQEHCMqgJ48c8MoCBuiMok7yradzHRWS2fYjUoQGKQDDgQCtB 2GXdh5I5n7cJornrudV7qTly1EQwU8rHmK9x4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ihl/umFguP1Dr/mDXWhTMBZ1efIokpql6GKTsr/BMvQ6PEq/DJxlUpSXc89A87KUo3 nuZQwaQogZNyh/0ahbBvQ0trAjIbsQCIn1r1+CHX/4HAOFCTfxtWYtnA2Et4mnltVwbd itupOSx/DrIGDIEQQwGMNaYynibRKNS6OSTaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.155.5 with SMTP id h5mr2088043ybo.129.1238089297622; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:41:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:41:40 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello list, > > I have installed and configured a FreeBSD system based on 7.1-RELEASE (not > that it matters so much) and I want a way in which I can duplicate this on > several other machines. > What is the easiest and the simplest way? Please consider the K.I.S.S > principle. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a > baby." > - Natalie Wood > If the hard drives are the same size, you might consider cloning the installation using g4u (ghost for unix): http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ - Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 18:59:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F34A106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3294fd0c0@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28488FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3294fd0c0@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,427,1233554400"; d="scan'208";a="8527033" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 13:30:13 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33E3F8C8B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:30:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:30:13 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Barnaby Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:59:09 -0000 --On Thursday, March 26, 2009 09:47:27 -0500 Barnaby Scott wrote: > > I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere > and go no response. > > I want to install wine, but without X on the system. Obviously trying to > do this from ports drags in loads of X-related stuff. There doesn't seem > to be a WITHOUT_X11 knob available for the wine port (presuambly because > hardly anyone would want it). > > I guess that leaves me installing it the 'old-fashioned' way, but > unfortunately my inexperience leaves me floundering here! Because > FreeBSD has such a wonderful ports system, all documentation I can find > for installing from source refers to ports, and I have not found a > single one showing a layman how to install from source manually, and > what problems I have to look out for. > > As you can probably tell, I lack a lot experience, so keep it fairly > monosyllabic please! > > (In case you wonder what on earth I want this for, it is to run a > 'render slave' which is Windows only, and simply runs in the background > - it would not even count as a 'console application'. I have three very > underused FreeBSD servers and they could do with some rendering work to > keep them from getting bored, but I don't want X cluttering them up.) > > Any help gratefully received Number 1, you should always google first. There's a wealth of posts on the web about running wine without X. Note that, at present, the wine port will not work. (There is an IGNORE line in the Makefile that explains why.) Whether wine will work at all or work but not do what you want, I can't say. Here's a post where someone compiled wine without X: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2001-October/004709.html The wine configure file has an option --with-x, and it's been buildable without X since 2003, so you could try building from source. ./configure --without-x builds fine on my machine, and make depends, make and make install work fine as well. Whether it will do what you want it to do, only you can say. So, you *could* do this: su - to root Download the wine tarball and untar it Go in to the wine directory and type the following, in order: ./configure --without-x make depends make make install That will install wine on your system without X. Figuring out how to get your rendering binary to run is an exercise for you. :-) I left wine without x installed on my system. If you have questions, I *may* be able to help. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. 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Content preview: Upali Rajapakse wrote: > I installed postfix on frebsd 7 > i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. > > and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. > can you help me? > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00 > > Best thing to do is go google/ yahoo http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search; _ylt=A1f4cfyX0stJgmUAiHJLBQx.?p=freebsd+postfix+setup+&y=Search&fr=moz2&rd=r1 [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Subject: Re: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:09:24 -0000 Upali Rajapakse wrote: > I installed postfix on frebsd 7 > i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. > > and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. > can you help me? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00 > > Best thing to do is go google/ yahoo http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A1f4cfyX0stJgmUAiHJLBQx.?p=freebsd+postfix+setup+&y=Search&fr=moz2&rd=r1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 19:38:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EB6106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.mcfarland1976@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B11D8FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.mcfarland1976@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so522379qwb.7 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:38:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1qf3xIX4KCgVM31HmRgyUoDN3du5Xef707fqNjzuUxg=; b=P6wQJCNEv/FVuPNvVdoXY5TrQ0wy/SpKwBmLOx3pTUQEKApJn0MRu4CQ7Z6IrLqKgJ o7Y68U0kU15sHaYkFT3+y9KHzaOjil37RRKo6eEucE2Lu2WsbKDA/ZLyhWm1hIgXBQhF CO3TqBK2568/40BBtB8ImosQyMZahYhSAr4AE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dcK/FpjMXwnt4rhKTg9sK+mxXQVFKIJC00EM8jmh46CHJO0eoMOKemkz0SIQIfjNwi s0hEYJ9F0B2FYTZKzsQiKImRQP6h9hIXuJxslj4b3icZsvqsCfFd7kZs2iUwvRC+5r4G L/L1dMbqJLblM9ENyA58VD87is8e08jyrx59U= Received: by 10.224.11.77 with SMTP id s13mr1742510qas.4.1238094808474; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? (c-69-242-47-198.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.242.47.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm851778qwb.1.2009.03.26.12.13.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CBD3D6.4040807@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:13:26 -0400 From: Jason L McFarland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:38:41 -0000 You need an imap/pop server. I recommend dovecot. -- "Justice derailed is worse than justice denied." -- K. Muthukumar "Be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 19:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F30D1065675 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958518FC1A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-37-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.37.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3328D16C0109; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2QJiDBA001549; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pieter Donche Message-Id: <20090326204413.dc6b75ff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:21 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:38 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts > it in my upper right corner, [...] Do you use -5 to get rid of a window border added by KDE's window manager? > but if I put that in my .xinitrc > (and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. It needs to be loaded before the "startkde" exec (I think it was called this way). And your .xinitrc is +x, then it should look a bit like this: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --size 1400x1050 & xrandr --fb 1400x1050 & xclock -geometry 50x50+50+998 & xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & xlogo -geometry 50x50+100+998 -render & exec startkde All the initial stuff has to end with &, and the window manager is the last command, prefixed by "exec" (so it replaces the shell). > Are you using kdm window > manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon" xterm on secure) Neither. In the past, I've used xdm (as your example above, just with xdm instead of kdm), and this worked fine. A note towards your shell: If you're using the standard dialog shell (i. e. the C Shell), it might be neccessary to have a ~/.xsession which is +x and does contain: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc > Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? This is completely possible. Maybe kdm defaults to a "builtin xinitrc" that launches KDE after successful login. I'm no KDE user so I can't tell. Just as a side question, doesn't KDE offer something with the same functionality like xbiff, so you can use KDE's builtin tool? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 19:44:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B33E10656C2 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE8B8FC15 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2QJiUmZ047272; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2QJiS0e047269; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:44:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18891.41491.32334.303252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <18891.41491.32334.303252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Barnaby Scott , Bill Moran , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:44:40 -0000 >> part of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all >> without X installed -- which is probably why you're not getting >> any answers. > > I'm not that familiar with Wine - does it support use of the > Windows command prompt? I can conceive of a program which requires > Windows libraries or the kernel, but does not use the gui. that's possible. anyway - if you can't build wine without X, built it with X, it will only install X libraries nothing else and it will work when command line utils will be used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 19:58:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DF7106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianrose@eecs.harvard.edu) Received: from mail.eecs.harvard.edu (bowser.eecs.harvard.edu [140.247.60.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E688FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianrose@eecs.harvard.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c-66-30-192-9.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.192.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.eecs.harvard.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2872B1A3C24 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49CBDA39.10409@eecs.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:41 -0400 From: Ian Rose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: most signals not being delivered to processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:58:29 -0000 Hello, I'm new to this list so if this question is better directed elsewhere please point me in the right direction. My research group has a server running 7.2-PRERELEASE and an odd problem has cropped up: most signals are not being delivered to processes. For example, if I run 'sleep 10' from the shell, ctrl-c won't interrupt it. kill -KILL still works, but this sort of makes sense since it involves only the OS and doesn't require delivery to the process itself. I have performed a fairly extensive series of tests: using bash: * ctrl-c does nothing * ctrl-z does nothing * kill -XXX works for SIGKILL and SIGSTOP only * kill -XXX does nothing for all other signals * a C program does not receive a SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGABRT or SIGTERM that it has sent to itself via 'kill(getpid(), SIGxxx)' * a C program will react appropriately when it sends itself a SIGKILL or SIGSTOP * a C program will react appropriately when you call abort(3) * a C program will die with the error "Floating point exception: 8 (core dumped)" if it divides by zero, but not if it sends itself a SIGFPE. using csh (or skip this list and see below for just the diffs with bash): * ctrl-c does interrupt processes (and a C program that traps for SIGINT will catch the signal appropriately from a ctrl-c) * ctrl-z does nothing * kill -XXX works for SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGKILL, SIGALRM, SIGSTOP, SIGXCPU, SIGXFSZ only * kill -XXX does nothing for all other signals * a C program does not receive a SIGHUP, SIGABRT or SIGTERM that it has sent to itself via 'kill(getpid(), SIGxxx)' * a C program will quit when it sends itself a SIGINT * a C program will react appropriately when it sends itself a SIGKILL or SIGSTOP * a C program will react appropriately when you call abort(3) * a C program will die with the error "Floating point exception: 8 (core dumped)" if it divides by zero, but not if it sends itself a SIGFPE. or, for brevity, here are just the differences when using csh as opposed to bash: * ctrl-c does interrupt processes (and a C program that traps for SIGINT will catch the signal appropriately from a ctrl-c) * kill -XXX works for SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGALRM, SIGXCPU, SIGXFSZ * a C program will quit when it sends itself a SIGINT This system has been in use for well over a year so I don't know why this would have cropped up all of a sudden. Unfortunately I am not the only one with superuser access on this machine, but nobody else in the group has any idea of what they could have done to mess things up. Some other important details: 1) The problem is not user-specific (other people are seeing the same thing) 2) The problem first appeared Friday (Mar 20) afternoon but it went away after another user re-installed the kernel. But now it returned today. 3) I checked stty -a and my key mapping look fine (e.g. susp = ^Z) Any hints or ideas? thanks very much, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 19:59:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182271065672 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B44E98FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 55019 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2009 19:59:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=G6ReUZt9S0861/O2HpfGfIhRQHO+a3ofL3iY//COnenGdYzJ4KYI9Crh6m7w/YqxW930oqmKxCRRAi8HMXYJGBEjZ4UHRPAktH+ayBl+87WqLADlJonmD6vFhCZq3yFmgItjOGmHlczI5Oj75pXIuZIYBHVNGMU6wurtZbYQ7zQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 19:59:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MpC9CiwVM1l_AmsOZGyaWM9S4v9pE0SnqEg1TnJwX00etromVkt36m4YvD_ItIY6CLcnQw1dm44OZlLvXb9euUpDVMqylS5517nj5d73EqoOxUTW3nv0yoV6XAZ_gOuiGsk2YRzW6DrttteJ4dqojt5XIsh4VKRALYwCVKB27mxcQHNqtzeOPBEONHCWr4OPAYjz1_rHe5v9iGKUPwG28In68lOVXzC5K2rAILxKde5L6b3V9zC0QcOTqNTB1Q1xu7jJmRXD_Y12u3ecISyo X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:59:26 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090326155926.6d228cb1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49CBD2EE.7040506@bluelight.org.uk> References: <1fdf83980903260854u6695205bg546d40706098f174@mail.gmail.com> <49CBD2EE.7040506@bluelight.org.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/NOq2UFPLc9HwRa/8jk=w16g"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:59:40 -0000 --Sig_/NOq2UFPLc9HwRa/8jk=w16g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:09:34 +0000 Terry wrote: >Upali Rajapakse wrote: >> I installed postfix on frebsd 7 >> i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to >> it. >> >> and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. >> can you help me? =20 >Best thing to do is go google/ yahoo >http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=3DA1f4cfyX0stJgmUAiHJLBQx.?p=3Dfree= bsd+postfix+setup+&y=3DSearch&fr=3Dmoz2&rd=3Dr1 I would recommend that you post your question on the Postfix forum. postfix-users@postfix.com Visit: http://postfix.com/lists.html if not a member, or just sent a message to: mojordomo@postfix.org with "subscribe postfix-users" sans quotation marks in the body of the message. Be sure to include the output of 'postconf -n' in its entirety. Also, any pertinent log entries. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Parkinson's Fourth Law: The number of people in any working group tends to = increase regardless of the amount of work to be done. --Sig_/NOq2UFPLc9HwRa/8jk=w16g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknL3qkACgkQBvaKIJWWCO2ybQCfUgVL5Jg17xhDAhpZ2y3YAkpC EJgAn19SWZvkvM8wjiYytyp6g559mD1a =8vcH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/NOq2UFPLc9HwRa/8jk=w16g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:02:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CDD10656BA for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from fork4.mail.virginia.edu (fork4.mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212728FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fork4.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2016811B09C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fork4.mail.virginia.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fork4.mail.virginia.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18483-05 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by fork4.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50AD11B0B3 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so927511wfd.0 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:37:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.166.10 with SMTP id t10mr500792wfo.210.1238096225709; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: <792298050903261237o4d57a47dpb99861279ee9b4f6@mail.gmail.com> From: L Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UVA-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fork4.mail.virginia.edu Subject: [pkg_add] PACKAGESITE weirdness - URL not correct for dependencies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:02:47 -0000 I'm running a bunch of jails and running the same set of ports between them. To save myself some CPU time, I've got one jail building packages for everything I need, then serving those packages out over HTTP to the rest of the jails. The package serving jail is at 10.0.0.4, and is serving packages out from it's HTTP root, such that requesting the following URLs properly fetch the desired packages: http://10.0.0.4/lighttpd-1.4.22.tbz http://10.0.0.4/pcre-7.8.tbz I set PACKAGESITE to 'http://10.0.0.4/'; when I attempt to install Lighttpd with pkg_add -rv, I get the following output (snipped to relevant portions): $ pkg_add -rv lighttpd-1.4.22 (..snip..) scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [10.0.0.4] port: [0] document: [/lighttpd-1.4.22.tbz] (..fetches and installs lighttpd-1.4.22 properly..) Package 'lighttpd-1.4.22' depends on 'pcre-7.8' with 'devel/pcre' origin. scheme: [http] user: [] password: [] host: [All] port: [0] document: [/pcre-7.8.tbz] ---> All:80 looking up All Error: FTP Unable to get http://All/pcre-7.8.tbz: No address record Somewhere along the process, something breaks and 'host' doesn't get set properly. I'm currently poking through the pkg_install code to figure out wtf is going on, but I figured I'd prod the lists to see if anyone else hit a similar problem (or knows what I'm doing wrong) since I'm not familiar with it. $ uname -a FreeBSD blah 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Thanks :3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:07:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F13106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from fork9.mail.virginia.edu (fork9.mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60258FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fork9.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276D31F51DC for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fork9.mail.virginia.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fork9.mail.virginia.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11628-04 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by fork9.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EFD1F51D3 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so927998wfd.0 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:38:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.157.6 with SMTP id f6mr499010wfe.248.1238096281236; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:38:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <792298050903261237o4d57a47dpb99861279ee9b4f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <792298050903261237o4d57a47dpb99861279ee9b4f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:38:01 -0400 Message-ID: <792298050903261238y47cd2c01j6f645ad27d59dd84@mail.gmail.com> From: L Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UVA-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fork9.mail.virginia.edu Subject: Re: [pkg_add] PACKAGESITE weirdness - URL not correct for dependencies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:07:20 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM, L Campbell wrote: > blah Oh, and please CC me on any replies since I don't follow this list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:09:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDD0106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ch_semi@mail.ru) Received: from mx45.mail.ru (mx73.mail.ru [94.100.176.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E778FC1F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ch_semi@mail.ru) Received: from mx6.mail.ru (mx6.mail.ru [94.100.176.86]) by mx45.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 94DE014C517 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:53:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [87.255.66.12] (port=23568 helo=schd8) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LmvdN-0006fu-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:53:01 +0300 From: "Sergei Cherveni" To: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:52:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Thread-Index: AcmtvD5z88dz2SeOSmK5osB4ZKZkHwAj7Y1w Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Subject: RE: nmap as user works, root doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jimmie James > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:39 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: nmap as user works, root doesn't > > Can anyone make sense of this? > Straight DSL connection, no router. > using -e [any interface] results in the same errors > > nmap-4.76 > > As root: > #nmap -v -v google.ca > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT > Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.161.104. > WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to > 64.230.197.58 > nexthost: failed to determine route to 64.233.161.104 > QUITTING! > I had the same issue when run nmap inside the screen session. -- Sergei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:11:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB8B1065707 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C998FC29 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so699165bwz.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:11:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=E8XtlSCo93pbbt4w75ILEl+xBQsKxzqP6i6UwXGlJRA=; b=Loa3ZLn3MlFXvYo45dabpf7COqRbfKHRPMGCDXcJ23waxBNrLdTEY5HqDr0sj5eLsW Dhgo5fT8eLIsLQQeMCZKBverwJlbb7WQulI6K7NIn4iZOjQdTg8G1PopCVwIJ3fNAZ+m sD6UZ5DxAApOFKU4YNWlTP18q6S40lNYeRXG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pZBHXXJ3h3tcKwPuxJzPQJ8AVBPwj2YyM6yodM6gb+i8IzW4Jfc3PQ21ZJfz6Slnw+ u4fh/a81nr7/7NH1m1DLDcrAmvHsqGidJtPRoevjRCivJC+KUqCTNuJmvMrNAASeS/aD x07gs6hqKW8ykfp/An/fYzkXnpVSuHtGkQAVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.211 with SMTP id t19mr1008979fap.64.1238098273191; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:11:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <991123400903260424p613c1c2dj53272f9101331760@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:11:13 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903261311r12d38b6h9c00ccdc1d0b54fb@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Duplicate Installation of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:11:15 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I have installed and configured a FreeBSD system based on 7.1-RELEASE (not >> that it matters so much) and I want a way in which I can duplicate this on >> several other machines. >> What is the easiest and the simplest way? Please consider the K.I.S.S >> principle. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a >> baby." >> - Natalie Wood >> > > If the hard drives are the same size, you might consider cloning the > installation using g4u (ghost for unix): > > http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ I know about it, but I have also used WinPE (with imagex) and compared, I fell in love with the Microsloth tool - creates a smaller image and applies it much faster. Sorry guys, I just had to mention it. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:31:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5FC1065672 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout013.mac.com (asmtpout013.mac.com [17.148.16.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B458FC1D for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp013.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KH4006MPRNEDM90@asmtp013.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <458C5AD3-A517-4253-A866-40685A2FC338@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Ian Rose In-reply-to: <49CBDA39.10409@eecs.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:30:50 -0700 References: <49CBDA39.10409@eecs.harvard.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: most signals not being delivered to processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:31:11 -0000 Hi, Ian-- On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Ian Rose wrote: > I'm new to this list so if this question is better directed > elsewhere please point me in the right direction. Welcome; this list is a good place. > My research group has a server running 7.2-PRERELEASE and an odd > problem has cropped up: most signals are not being delivered to > processes. For example, if I run 'sleep 10' from the shell, ctrl-c > won't interrupt it. kill -KILL still works, but this sort of > makes sense since it involves only the OS and doesn't require > delivery to the process itself. Both your shells and /bin/kill should be using kill(2) system call; see /usr/src/bin/kill/kill.c, /usr/src/contrib/tcsh/sh.proc.c, etc for the details. For a signal to work, the OS does deliver it to the process, which must be in a runnable state or else delivery will block until the process has returned from a system call or whatever is blocking it. > I have performed a fairly extensive series of tests: > > using bash: > > * ctrl-c does nothing > * ctrl-z does nothing > * kill -XXX works for SIGKILL and SIGSTOP only > * kill -XXX does nothing for all other signals > * a C program does not receive a SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGABRT or > SIGTERM that it has sent to itself via 'kill(getpid(), SIGxxx)' > * a C program will react appropriately when it sends itself a > SIGKILL or SIGSTOP > * a C program will react appropriately when you call abort(3) > * a C program will die with the error "Floating point exception: > 8 (core dumped)" if it divides by zero, but not if it sends itself a > SIGFPE. That's significantly odd. What does "stty -a" say about your control character settings? You should see something like: % stty -a speed 9600 baud; 58 rows; 90 columns; [ ... ] cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^?; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; ...which has the mappings for ^C => SIGINT, ^Z => SIGTSTP, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:46:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38982106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from fork10.mail.virginia.edu (fork10.mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36238FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from llc2w@virginia.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fork10.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458D1F5182 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fork10.mail.virginia.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fork10.mail.virginia.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19834-04 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.155]) by fork10.mail.virginia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5621F5172 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so508924yxn.6 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.185.21 with SMTP id i21mr523296wff.220.1238100367233; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <792298050903261238y47cd2c01j6f645ad27d59dd84@mail.gmail.com> References: <792298050903261237o4d57a47dpb99861279ee9b4f6@mail.gmail.com> <792298050903261238y47cd2c01j6f645ad27d59dd84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: <792298050903261346m67896d1eo75694509494ff5f8@mail.gmail.com> From: L Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UVA-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fork10.mail.virginia.edu Subject: Re: [pkg_add] PACKAGESITE weirdness - URL not correct for dependencies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:46:09 -0000 Okay, so apparently there's some serious weirdness in the logic in src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/url.c, in fileGetURL. This function takes two parameters, base and spec, and has the following behavior -- * if spec is a valid URL, it's used unchanged as the path to the remote package. * if base is non-NULL, the last two '/'s are chopped off and "All/" + package name + ".tbz" is used as the result. * if PKG_ADD_BASE is set in the environment, it's concatenated with the package name and ".tbz" When fileGetURL is called on the dependencies by pkg_do in add/perform.c, it always gets passed the remote URL of the parent package as the base and the package name as the spec, so the second branch is always taken. Unfortunately, this doesn't work with the PACKAGESITE code in add/main.c, because fileGetURL is expecting the base argument to be of the form "http://host/directory/package.tbz", as in "www/lighttpd-1.4.22.tbz". The problem is, when using PACKAGESITE, the actual URL (in my case) is just "http://host/lighttpd-1.4.22.tbz", so that gets incorrectly chopped down to "http:/" + "Add/" + "lighttpd-1.4.22.tbz". It works fine if your PACKAGESITE puts all the packages in the "All/" subdirectory (as I think the official ones do), but at the very least, that's an undocumented constraint. My solution was to add another case into fileGetURL which gets overrides the three currently in there and is invoked if and only if PACKAGESITE is set in the environment. The following patch makes it work for me -- --- usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/url.c.orig 2009-03-26 19:56:12.000000000 +0000 +++ usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/url.c 2009-03-26 20:41:44.000000000 +0000 @@ -57,7 +57,21 @@ * to construct a composite one out of that and the basename we were * handed as a dependency. */ - if (base) { + if (getenv("PACKAGESITE")) { + if (strlcpy(fname, getenv("PACKAGESITE"), sizeof(fname)) + >= sizeof(fname)) { + return NULL; + } + if (strlcat(fname, spec, sizeof(fname)) + >= sizeof(fname)) { + return NULL; + } + if (strlcat(fname, ".tbz", sizeof(fname)) + >= sizeof(fname)) { + return NULL; + } + } + else if (base) { strcpy(fname, base); /* * Advance back two slashes to get to the root of the package Though I think, in the long-run I'm just going to put all my packages in http://10.0.0.4/All/ and call it a day -- I hate maintaining a bunch of patches for stuff. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:47:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0058910656C6 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3294fd0c0@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A858FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3294fd0c0@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,428,1233554400"; d="scan'208";a="8533935" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 15:47:49 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB4CA8D9C; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:47:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:47:50 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Upali Rajapakse , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1fdf83980903260854u6695205bg546d40706098f174@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fdf83980903260854u6695205bg546d40706098f174@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:47:51 -0000 --On Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:54:41 -0500 Upali Rajapakse wrote: > > I installed postfix on frebsd 7 > i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. Did you follow the instructions during the install and disable sendmail? Did you say yes to activate Postfix in /etc/mail/mailer.conf? > > and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. > can you help me? You're confusing MTAs (Mail Transfer Agents) with mail receipt programs such as imap and/or pop. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 20:50:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20091065792 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianrose@eecs.harvard.edu) Received: from mail.eecs.harvard.edu (bowser.eecs.harvard.edu [140.247.60.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F588FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianrose@eecs.harvard.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c-66-30-192-9.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.192.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.eecs.harvard.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF251A3D96; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49CBEA9C.3040502@eecs.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:50:36 -0400 From: Ian Rose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <49CBDA39.10409@eecs.harvard.edu> <458C5AD3-A517-4253-A866-40685A2FC338@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <458C5AD3-A517-4253-A866-40685A2FC338@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: most signals not being delivered to processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:50:38 -0000 Hi Chuck, Thanks for the response. My stty -a looks good: cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^?; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; However, hopefully the problem has gone away. Another member of our team thinks that somehow the issue is related to some system services (sshd and dhcpd) failing to completely detach from their controlling terminal due to a setuid wrapper he set up, and thus they "are left holding on to some old bad controlling terminal even though they daemonize themselves". I have to admit I don't completely understand it all (in part because anything involving 'controlling terminals' is usually a bit mystifying for me), but hopefully he's right... cheers, Ian Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, Ian-- > > On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Ian Rose wrote: >> I'm new to this list so if this question is better directed elsewhere >> please point me in the right direction. > > Welcome; this list is a good place. > >> My research group has a server running 7.2-PRERELEASE and an odd >> problem has cropped up: most signals are not being delivered to >> processes. For example, if I run 'sleep 10' from the shell, ctrl-c >> won't interrupt it. kill -KILL still works, but this sort of >> makes sense since it involves only the OS and doesn't require delivery >> to the process itself. > > Both your shells and /bin/kill should be using kill(2) system call; see > /usr/src/bin/kill/kill.c, /usr/src/contrib/tcsh/sh.proc.c, etc for the > details. For a signal to work, the OS does deliver it to the process, > which must be in a runnable state or else delivery will block until the > process has returned from a system call or whatever is blocking it. > >> I have performed a fairly extensive series of tests: >> >> using bash: >> >> * ctrl-c does nothing >> * ctrl-z does nothing >> * kill -XXX works for SIGKILL and SIGSTOP only >> * kill -XXX does nothing for all other signals >> * a C program does not receive a SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGABRT or SIGTERM >> that it has sent to itself via 'kill(getpid(), SIGxxx)' >> * a C program will react appropriately when it sends itself a >> SIGKILL or SIGSTOP >> * a C program will react appropriately when you call abort(3) >> * a C program will die with the error "Floating point exception: 8 >> (core dumped)" if it divides by zero, but not if it sends itself a >> SIGFPE. > > That's significantly odd. What does "stty -a" say about your control > character settings? You should see something like: > > % stty -a > speed 9600 baud; 58 rows; 90 columns; > [ ... ] > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > eol2 = ; erase = ^?; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; > status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > ...which has the mappings for ^C => SIGINT, ^Z => SIGTSTP, etc. > > Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 21:01:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424CD1065670 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cabal@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3628FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cabal@u.washington.edu) Received: from homer21.u.washington.edu (homer21.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.213]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.03/8.14.3+UW09.01) with ESMTP id n2QL1XAm000664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:01:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (cabal@localhost) by homer21.u.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.03/8.14.3+Submit) with ESMTP id n2QL1XHO010636 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:01:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:01:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "John H. Nyhuis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LRH 1217 2009-02-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.5.3.366731, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.0.366912, Antispam-Data: 2009.3.26.204928 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1900_1999 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, ECARD_WORD 0, TO_NO_NAME 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CANPHARM_UNSUB_LINK 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_7 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Q: FreeBSD 7.1 stable boot failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:01:34 -0000 Greetings, I just re-installed an old file server from stable 6.1 to 7.1 stable, and I'm having a problem with my 3ware 7000-2 card. After sysinstall completes, and I try to boot from the SCSI HDD (not connected to the 3ware) for the first time, the system hangs immediatly after the POST completes. The keyboard goes dead (numlock and caps lock stop working) and it never starts to load. I can't get the system to a point where I can get an error to work with. When I remove the 3ware card, the system boot fine. FreeBSD is installed on my system's internal SCSI drives (the 3ware card manages data disks, not OS disks). I've checked the media md5, and the media checks out OK. I've tried manually setting the boot partition to the root partition on the SCSI drives. This problem is 100% repeatable on my system using 7.1 stable (and I did not experiance this with 6.1 stable). I've reinstalled several times with different options trying to get around this problem. The system is a Dell poweredge 2200 (dual PIII 333Mhz procs) SCSI drives (set to 4 and 5, controller set to 7), 128MB memory, and a 3ware 7000-2 card which should be supported by the twe0 driver. The drives connected to the 3ware card are 200GB maxtor drives. Google mentions rebuilding your RAID array (having to wipe and rebuild the filesystem every time I patch is not really a long-term viable option), which I did, and this did not change the hang. Would someone point me in the correct direction for resolving this? Thanks, John H. Nyhuis IT Manager Dept. of Pediatrics HS RR541C, Box 356320 University of Washington Desk: (206)-685-3884 jnyhuis@u.washington.edu _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 21:53:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6AB1065672 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355C08FC20 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42CAFC1FA1E for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:21:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [95.88.231.111] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1Lmx0e-0002XM-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0100 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2QLKjDN005981 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:20:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2QLKjG0005980 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:20:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:20:45 +0100 From: Tobias Rehbein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/6ng85shcWikRshng69kFGRnAslw9Dfe+SYRF6 BOefLR7LTmrqJMVh9uwLxGCxxezoseqJvKE0v9ofxt/MWgeA2Y ArWUCejkuPdBHj3B+syA== Subject: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:53:11 -0000 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but fails on Free= BSD. The Problem is the line: sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) After this line the following evaluates to true: $! eq "No such file or directory." /dev/cd0 is readable and writable for me. I rebooted multiple times and tri= ed with and without atapicam.=20 sysopen(CD, "/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails either. So what's up here? Is sysopen a linuxism? Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards Tobias --=20 Tobias Rehbein PGP key: 4F2AE314 server: keys.gnupg.net fingerprint: ECDA F300 1B6E 9B87 8524 8663 E8B6 3138 4F2A E314 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknL8a0ACgkQ6LYxOE8q4xSqIACgv6j2NXnUG63dprhTK/vnuenm qdgAnA+CN/PVph3N/b/LscYfPibxe48x =KpC4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 21:56:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ACD1065670 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5AA8FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so757061ewy.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xfoKy7jUESJu/9L9x7ySP4kEjcuK8xZhzjDtLMjl2pk=; b=clcGWPMuR9Pk8FKNTKiRQ9CszY7ijogyBylGSl9PDCuGfWGjjVAFPFxOwVuk6HrqDO ZJa9/aPfNBMMgJCqJP30P79MeetazAnvqQNrVcAn95lMfqspx/DYpyswa6T2SZMu1MGg Cd+lutsMjDLq9I12O6jmEuc1z0BIqxZbtByaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OCNTxFEzzW1B8FrxOFSnd7Eo10sZ2Nu4kKA5W5xzmCfDUuz4EEpaOYtlmDlXxYIK76 BmsaNahy4w82hgsSWjB2pkjj4KH6UoZ6aga08Pq7HEXXWR0HG3DXmLXZLl4G3sWXXhc+ OSH1ZPFcvY17P+rACAhBmBViKCkJ8NeEhbSAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.92.11 with SMTP id p11mr250526ebb.2.1238104591992; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:56:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:56:31 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903261456g2924d8cai6569e4cd739c1c49@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:56:33 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Tobias Rehbein wro= te: > Hi all. > > I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but fails on Fr= eeBSD. > The Problem is the line: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > After this line the following evaluates to true: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$! eq "No such file or directory." > I may be wrong, but shouldn't that be '/dev/acd0' ? > /dev/cd0 is readable and writable for me. I rebooted multiple times and t= ried > with and without atapicam. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sysopen(CD, "/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > fails either. So what's up here? Is sysopen a linuxism? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Regards Tobias --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 22:17:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13142106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC198FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:17:48 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PQD44482; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2009 18:17:47 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <18891.65290.334463.362126@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:17:46 -0400 To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903261456g2924d8cai6569e4cd739c1c49@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <4ad871310903261456g2924d8cai6569e4cd739c1c49@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:17:49 -0000 Glen Barber writes: > > I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but > > fails on FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > > > After this line the following evaluates to true: > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$! eq "No such file or directory." > > > =20 > I may be wrong, but shouldn't that be '/dev/acd0' ? =09/dev/cd0 =3D SCSI CD-ROM (and maybe other stuff). =09I don't know if that's what the OP has, but it is a possible value. =09=09=09=09Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 22:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E3106567F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC798FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B65819017; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:11:28 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Tobias Rehbein Message-ID: <20090326221128.3a6d648f@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:03 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:20:45 +0100 Tobias Rehbein wrote: > Hi all. > > I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but fails > on FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: > > sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > After this line the following evaluates to true: > > $! eq "No such file or directory." > > /dev/cd0 is readable and writable for me. I rebooted multiple times > and tried with and without atapicam. > > sysopen(CD, "/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > fails either. So what's up here? Is sysopen a linuxism? > sysopen certainly works on FreeBSD: > perl use POSIX; sysopen(CD,"/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") > and before I fixed the permissions: > perl use POSIX; sysopen(CD,"/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") sysopen: Permission denied > -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 22:22:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C00F106566C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF94C8FC1A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2832719017; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:15:12 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20090326221512.63b20c9f@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <18891.65290.334463.362126@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <4ad871310903261456g2924d8cai6569e4cd739c1c49@mail.gmail.com> <18891.65290.334463.362126@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:46 -0000 On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:17:46 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Glen Barber writes: >=20 > > > I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but > > > fails on FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > > > > > After this line the following evaluates to true: > > > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$! eq "No such file or directory." > > > > > =20 > > I may be wrong, but shouldn't that be '/dev/acd0' ? >=20 > /dev/cd0 =3D SCSI CD-ROM (and maybe other stuff). >=20 > I don't know if that's what the OP has, but it is a possible > value. cd0 is also what you get if you use atapicam (ATAPI is SCSI over ATA from what I remember) - for example cdrecord has traditionally used it when writing CDs. Apparently the OP has the issue both when using atapicam (/dev/cd0) and the normal ata node /dev/acd0. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 22:31:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2931065673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2745E8FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmy6d-0008UM-33 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:23 +0000 Received: from pool-68-239-74-156.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.74.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:23 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-74-156.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:23 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:32:05 -0400 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-74-156.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Q: FreeBSD 7.1 stable boot failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:31:24 -0000 John H. Nyhuis wrote: > Greetings, > > I just re-installed an old file server from stable 6.1 to 7.1 stable, > and I'm having a problem with my 3ware 7000-2 card. > > After sysinstall completes, and I try to boot from the SCSI HDD (not > connected to the 3ware) for the first time, the system hangs immediatly > after > the POST completes. The keyboard goes dead (numlock and caps lock stop > working) and it never starts to load. I can't get the system to a point > where I can get an error to work with. > > When I remove the 3ware card, the system boot fine. FreeBSD is > installed on my system's internal SCSI drives (the 3ware card manages data > disks, not OS disks). > > I've checked the media md5, and the media checks out OK. I've tried > manually setting the boot partition to the root partition on the SCSI > drives. This problem is 100% repeatable on my system using 7.1 stable (and > I did not > experiance this with 6.1 stable). I've reinstalled several times with > different options trying to get around this problem. > > The system is a Dell poweredge 2200 (dual PIII 333Mhz procs) SCSI > drives (set to 4 and 5, controller set to 7), 128MB memory, and a 3ware > 7000-2 > card which should be supported by the twe0 driver. The drives connected > to the 3ware card are 200GB maxtor drives. > > Google mentions rebuilding your RAID array (having to wipe and rebuild the > filesystem every time I patch is not really a long-term viable option), > which I did, and this did not change the hang. > > Would someone point me in the correct direction for resolving this? > Only a few things immediately jump out at me. Some older equipment really like the bootable SCSI disk to be on ID 0, with the second disk on ID 1. It's not really supposed to matter, but I recall some older stuff being flaky about this. Back then there was usually an option in the BIOS to tell which controller to attempt boot from first. It was called something like "boot from external adapter", or something like that. What it did was to initialize the ROM in the add-in card first. This machine is probably from the pre ACPI days. You probably want to boot with ACPI disabled, and this can be done from the boot menu for testing and if it works can be hard coded to be permanent. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 22:48:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0FD106564A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EB78FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 42073 invoked by uid 0); 26 Mar 2009 22:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.78) by smtp.bway.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2009 22:21:37 -0000 From: mv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:21:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200903261821.36616.mrkvrg@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:48:18 -0000 Hello Jesse, This message is an elaboration of Polytron's comment about starting different desktop environments/window managers using ~/.xinitrc. I like this particular approach as DE/WM can have its own customized setup which will not interfere with the other environments. Also it is very easy to add or delete DE/WM as needed. The default environment is the last DE/WM used. I've succesfully used this simple hack for the last three years: #!/bin/sh # Name: ~/bin/stx # Created: 2006-02-09 cd ~ while true do clear echo -n ' Choice of Desktops: G)nome K)DE T)WM '$error_message' Select above letter (or "q" to quit): ' read choice case "$choice" in g|G) cp .xinitrc.gnome .xinitrc break ;; k|K) cp .xinitrc.kde .xinitrc break ;; t|T) cp .xinitrc.twm .xinitrc break ;; q|Q) exit 2 ;; *) error_message=" Invalid Selection!" echo "^G" ;; esac done startx exit 0 #EoF Hope this may help. Cheers... Marek On Wed, 25 March 2009 23:17:51 Jesse Feinman wrote: > I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i > would like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple > desktop environments and easily switch between them, preferably > without restarting. The primary purpose for this is to gain complete > functionality over the system utilizing all possible tools and also > to evaluate the different environments to determine which one works > best for me. > > Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case > because to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE > and Gnome environments and i am wondering as to how it would function > if i were to switch desktops constantly. > > Thank you for your time, > Jesse Feinman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 23:05:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2744A106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net [79.135.125.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D43F8FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-179-6-169.dsl.pipex.com ([81.179.6.169] helo=[192.168.1.246] country=GB ident=postmaster*pop3*waywood&co*uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 49cc0a34.5d67.6a4; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:05:24 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <49CC0A31.8060308@waywood.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:05:21 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Laine , Barnaby Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk> <20090326225013.GA1069@free.bsd.loc> In-Reply-To: <20090326225013.GA1069@free.bsd.loc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:05:26 -0000 Jeff Laine wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:12:17PM +0000, Barnaby Scott wrote: >> Bill Moran wrote: >>> In response to Barnaby Scott : >>> >>>> I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere >>>> and go no response. >>>> >>>> I want to install wine, but without X on the system. >>> Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral part >>> of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all without X >>> installed -- which is probably why you're not getting any answers. >>> >>> Perhaps you should back up and consider what you're trying to accomplish. >>> If you don't need a GUI, then what programs do you expect to run under >>> wine, and is there some better way to get them? >>> >> Thanks for your reply >> >> I know this is possible because I have seen discussion of it in Linux >> and wine forums. I'm just too inexperienced to know which bits of the >> instructions are OS-specific, and what other nightmares I might face. I >> might be able to figure it all out by weeks of trial and error, but that >> seems crazy if someone has been there before me! >> >> As for why I want it to run, that is because the application I want to >> run is a bolt-on to a specific bit of rendering software that we use, >> and there really is no viable non-Windows replacement in our situation - >> believe me, if there was, I'd be using it. (In case you care, we are >> talking about Vray for Rhino, which we use because we use Rhino, and >> because we use Rhino we chose RhinoCAM, and because we chose RhinoCAM I >> spent weeks writing software to make it talk to our CNC equipment, whose >> controller is inextricably Windows-based... you get the picture!) >> >> In answer to the other replies (thanks to you guys too): >> >> Yes, wine is fine with just the command prompt. It is somewhat confusing >> in that it offers a thing called wineconsole, but ironically that *does* >> appear to require X. Just using wine without X is fine, so long as the >> app does not attempt to open any sort of window, system tray etc. >> >> As for the 'cluttering' - I'm not so worried about disk space, that's >> cheap these days. It's more a question of updating ports. When I once >> made the mistake of installing X and various other things I turned out >> not to need, the process of updating everything became a nightmare - >> stuff breaking because I hadn't read the updating info for a bunch of >> fonts or something stupid like that. Multiply that by 3 servers, and, >> well, no thanks! > > > wineconsole app seems working fine in terminal with no X at all. > I ran it like this: > > ./wineconsole --backend=curses cmd > OK thanks, I stand corrected (just shows how unreliable GOOGLING sometimes is!) If/when I can get this working I will check out wineconsole, though as I said, the app I want to run has no visible output at all, console or otherwise - it just talks to the main renderer over the network, but (dammit) is a Windows binary. Barnaby From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 23:10:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23FD106566B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554AA8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so851918fgg.12 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:10:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-operating-system; bh=cF2faHY59eVEnalKdhCJqChfUwjop8fi1oP8KT0vCIA=; b=pFhAcYXbm38YtzQRlCADY4t0y7bfJKMK7pUXTVJF7RqlDIKTgfIvSBBw/BxYRU/6IG MRtkHirprprDuVvicyV60F+NyM3onXrL8+ZbYIefIarHghki9xNfITDGPmJQHo1CoH1g xAAIHTodVNuW/cKS/paCh20TDkj6jgskSnDJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=tqIPTO4hV3l52Jfo0vRVbr8C/2tQwqQCeogY9ZM7RYNez50hEB2h2CkWPJ8NfrX5tI 7m6S8G3MZz9U18y6QaMIeNOA2pzbJCkD0QqA5D6KksvOmoBQqT2ahqiF/M+5ACu/o7l1 jkeXMWZ6cLhkbSai2xSc69usmyaXVDsbPJ4B0= Received: by 10.86.89.20 with SMTP id m20mr1640381fgb.39.1238107811911; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackmesa ([77.66.225.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm1034000fga.2.2009.03.26.15.50.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blackmesa (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:50:13 +0300 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:50:13 +0300 From: Jeff Laine To: Barnaby Scott Message-ID: <20090326225013.GA1069@free.bsd.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Laine , Barnaby Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:10:52 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:12:17PM +0000, Barnaby Scott wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > >In response to Barnaby Scott : > > > >>I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere > >>and go no response. > >> > >>I want to install wine, but without X on the system. > > > >Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral part > >of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all without X > >installed -- which is probably why you're not getting any answers. > > > >Perhaps you should back up and consider what you're trying to accomplish. > >If you don't need a GUI, then what programs do you expect to run under > >wine, and is there some better way to get them? > > > > Thanks for your reply > > I know this is possible because I have seen discussion of it in Linux > and wine forums. I'm just too inexperienced to know which bits of the > instructions are OS-specific, and what other nightmares I might face. I > might be able to figure it all out by weeks of trial and error, but that > seems crazy if someone has been there before me! > > As for why I want it to run, that is because the application I want to > run is a bolt-on to a specific bit of rendering software that we use, > and there really is no viable non-Windows replacement in our situation - > believe me, if there was, I'd be using it. (In case you care, we are > talking about Vray for Rhino, which we use because we use Rhino, and > because we use Rhino we chose RhinoCAM, and because we chose RhinoCAM I > spent weeks writing software to make it talk to our CNC equipment, whose > controller is inextricably Windows-based... you get the picture!) > > In answer to the other replies (thanks to you guys too): > > Yes, wine is fine with just the command prompt. It is somewhat confusing > in that it offers a thing called wineconsole, but ironically that *does* > appear to require X. Just using wine without X is fine, so long as the > app does not attempt to open any sort of window, system tray etc. > > As for the 'cluttering' - I'm not so worried about disk space, that's > cheap these days. It's more a question of updating ports. When I once > made the mistake of installing X and various other things I turned out > not to need, the process of updating everything became a nightmare - > stuff breaking because I hadn't read the updating info for a bunch of > fonts or something stupid like that. Multiply that by 3 servers, and, > well, no thanks! wineconsole app seems working fine in terminal with no X at all. I ran it like this: ./wineconsole --backend=curses cmd -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 26 23:39:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBF91065672 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481DD8FC14 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4979BCBF01C59B5C; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:39:28 +0000 Message-ID: <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:39:28 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:39:48 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> PC-BSD ===> http://www.pcbsd.org/ >> DesktopBSD ===> http://www.desktopbsd.net/ >> >> And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes "Windows" >> users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, >> then click "next, next, next, finish" and have an application >> installed. :-) > > even more - it's even as slow and messy as windows. no idea about > stability - possibly it's better. > > personally - i've tried once PC-BSD, removed it one hour after installing. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job and it's really come of age recently. I now spend almost zero time maintaining and tweaking my computer (apart from from some laptop acpi teething troubles). I used to keep Windows XP handy for a diminishing number of things, now it is truly redundant. It's personal choice not a hard and fast rule. Everyone has different circumstances. If I was using old hardware, as I think you do, I would probably think differently but on this 2GHz 1GB ram machine it's great, and I still have FreeBSD underneath to play with if I want. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 00:04:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7622D106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DD88FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2R03xHV048007; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:03:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2R03xX3048004; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:03:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:03:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> Message-ID: References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:04:09 -0000 > It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months > ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable > spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. Just i don't understand the idea of wasting the power of good hardware just to waste. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 02:05:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126A4106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D89F8FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2R21IbS001965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:01:18 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n2R254v0003403; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:05:04 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:05:04 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:05:09 -0000 Hi, Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not required by any other package? Some thing like "pkg_info -aR" where the Required by: field is empty. Ultimately, that would give a list of "software" versus "libraries". The question arise because, while installing a new machine, I found out that I have help2man installed, that is not required by any other package, that I did not install myself, that looks unneeded to me (until I may need it one day). So I would remove it; and would like to make a list of what is removable (that I did not install, and that is not required). TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 02:08:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED6C1065670 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C442E8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so812898ewy.43 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1BGTKRim5O9vGoYJ39yZ3zvh61jZm/c6LL/V6pib5Bk=; b=v3yYVwFl4znAGNxFiVMi+rhJD6JlZBKL6twXMOMdYJXKbgo07IvB+TeaW5HM+ZKNzp EkRelU+ldHCnb20LDcZ8K7vxmgMLSCj+f4keDJ4u+jaTiBcH+pgAqOT6tl0qg+VTXcVR A+4OJPyx/b4zPdXuwTaNDCV93ZJzNP/Ztfhqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mvBRWmCqHArwQ/OwLEgKh553vpgz4uZ9vCpCLAuFXV2fGxgz/l7V3P0bO5nYlORI56 mvJOJA1YLRlbwbyVHRUJKWna437bDfSSr9TBatL34AKrF2biE/V+Gud0kRj/r+tz8Keh LA3+Xv8Y5MuEhXqxyeStxqhQpH99U2AcdJypM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.18.8 with SMTP id 8mr1210359ebr.27.1238119681942; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:08:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310903261908h1bba0b1fq3d96f19ed52a9fc8@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:08:03 -0000 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not > required by any other package? > > Some thing like "pkg_info -aR" where the Required by: field is empty. > > Ultimately, that would give a list of "software" versus "libraries". > > The question arise because, while installing a new machine, I found > out that I have help2man installed, that is not required by any other > package, that I did not install myself, that looks unneeded to me > (until I may need it one day). So I would remove it; and would like to > make a list of what is removable (that I did not install, and that is > not required). > Have a look at the ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves port. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 02:46:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95EC106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EF18FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so936416wfg.7 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:46:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qn4C/swELkr31CvFQZQkY4NnNAO2H2ZIT7vVUgouIpw=; b=M5rzH/R9WvgkjWvNySEQJ34Gf6A232JeCY0ynFis1oi0e2qNZM2uMGeYkju0b/ywn2 PTWlAn69dX3zw/oEOs/s3oAkJPzvhfjSAwVrcPStkE+e5gVFjW+Qc2aYxx+EK12P/ljd Y9R0pIKGdyl1N3cXirvQQaTnQygIEEC+VwnrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=S9MP5jiGZlYPnwtveL2nE17Fc/TWyLCLit5a3HiBijP1E03psw/gJb1Pri1DceJ23X XgYMHcPinkHUHU4u5HbRlZm5NrA6JHXW/+Jo87DYrU9dCxbJWQ0k0ZaNh71eLBNvQyPo ofUneWhfxeMchAJRdKhI/dFg5wcJqDvPuYYfA= Received: by 10.142.185.13 with SMTP id i13mr678438wff.36.1238121991284; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm1728387wfd.55.2009.03.26.19.46.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CC3E07.8080508@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:46:31 -0400 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mrkvrg@acm.org References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> <200903261821.36616.mrkvrg@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <200903261821.36616.mrkvrg@acm.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:46:32 -0000 You also have selectwm. $cat /usr/ports/x11-wm/selectwm/pkg-descr This is a small application (using GTK+) which lets you select your window manager. It looks for a file named .selectwmrc in the user's directory which contains a list of window managers. When you start X it should show a list which lets you choose your window manager (by double clicking on it with the mouse or with the arrow keys and the return or space key). WWW: http://ordiluc.net/selectwm/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 03:21:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551C6106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leg.ios@legios.org) Received: from bade.legios.org (ppp198-172.static.internode.on.net [59.167.198.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092928FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leg.ios@legios.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.20]) by bade.legios.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C671862FB; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:47 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at legios.org Received: from bade.legios.org ([192.168.0.20]) by localhost (legios.org [192.168.0.20]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VOGe2dt-e1hP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from www.legios.org (adjasou.legios.org [192.168.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bade.legios.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CE0462F2; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from 150.101.214.246 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leg.ios) by www.legios.org with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:31 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <961e9043419a14143fe48f87d31c459f.squirrel@www.legios.org> In-Reply-To: <49CC3E07.8080508@gmail.com> References: <2e3ffd230903252017l26cbc450l6d671d43eb0c410a@mail.gmail.com> <200903261821.36616.mrkvrg@acm.org> <49CC3E07.8080508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:31 +1100 (EST) From: leg.ios@legios.org To: "Eitan Adler" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: mrkvrg@acm.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop environments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:21:44 -0000 XDM can also do this, although to be honest I've never used XDM, only KDM and GDM. There's info in the handbook here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html I prefer KDM or GDM to handle this task - it launches a GUI (based on QT or GTK depending on which tool you use) and lets you launch your DE of choice. There's handbook details for both here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 03:47:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0A61065670 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D018FC23 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2R3EreO020693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n2R3ErbN020690 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca using -f Received: from [192.168.1.20] (twenty [192.168.1.20]) by 3s1.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <49CC44AC.6010401@skytracker.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:14:52 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramiro Caso References: <20090324195751.GA20259@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9171/Thu Mar 26 13:49:28 2009 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca Subject: Re: renaming many Chinese files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:47:34 -0000 that worked fine. Thanks. > Just a very quick thought (the first that pops into my mind): you could > see which are the western characters that appear in the names, and then > use sed to substitute all non-matching characters with nothing, > something like: > > for i in *.jpg; do b="`echo $i | sed 's/[^CHAR_SET]//g'`"; mv $i $b; done > > (without > forgetting, obviously, to add . to the CHAR_SET, something like: > [^a-zA-Z0-9.]; if you figure out a less clumsy way, please, share!!) > I'm guessing that the initial 'P123' is just an example, or this will > horribly backfire. But I'm really, REALLY, taking a shot in the dark > here... (if you already thought of this, and it just doesn't work, > sorry for the useless pitch) > > > >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 >> To: questions@freebsd.org >> From: david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca >> CC: >> Subject: renaming many Chinese files >> >> I have hundreds of jpg images where each image is named P123****.jpg >> where the **** are chinese characters. I can't open the file - it >> has to be renamed before I can open it. Evening if I could open it >> I don't want the Chinese part as the name. >> >> Each file starts with 3 or four western characters and then has 3 or >> four chinese characters, before the western .jpg extension. >> >> I want to to test each filename character by character >> to see if it is western, and then when the first Chinese Character is >> found, have it simply rename the file to the 3 or four western-character >> name + .jpg >> >> I can write most of the script but I don't know how to test for >> western and/or Chinese characters. >> >> I could run a script that would simply rename all the files to >> a number in sequential order but I would rather use the existing >> starting name of the file if possible. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Encontrá el auto de tus sueños en MSN > http://xml.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/msn/autos.html_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 05:13:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E17106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA2A8FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n2R5CvYe057192 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n2R5CvjR057191; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA24083; Thu, 26 Mar 09 21:04:47 PST Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:03:38 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <49cc5e2a.xzhfhSK7ecXZhS+G%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090325222900.d4c325ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090326204413.dc6b75ff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090326204413.dc6b75ff.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:13:03 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:38 +0100 (CET), > Pieter Donche wrote: > > From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 & puts > > it in my upper right corner, [...] > > Do you use -5 to get rid of a window border added by KDE's window > manager? IIRC that construct would place xbiff in the upper right corner of the screen. (Negative X coordinate => distance from right edge.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 06:53:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA26E106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from col0-omc4-s19.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc4-s19.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EBD8FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from COL106-W58 ([65.55.34.201]) by col0-omc4-s19.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:53:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [218.248.24.18] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:53:15 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2009 06:53:15.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[B40476E0:01C9AEA8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ugen0: Qualcomm CDMA configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:53:16 -0000 List=3B when I attach a USB modem =2C I am seeing this message in dmesg output on= FreeBSD6.2=20 ugen0: Qualcomm=2C Incorporated Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM=2C rev 1.10/= 0.00=2C addr 2 Question1) Can this USB wireless modem will work with FreeBSD6.2 ? if not= with FreeBSD-7.0 ? 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Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 07:13:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92560106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397FE8FC1A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5ED9B8035 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:13:32 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1238138012; bh=gke+ci8nYclD0hxDfHS2Jun6Jr7NMWuExcu/jM+n/o0=; h=To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:From:Cc:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=P+zi+mvNHNO2pJG9UuGzgGUdNSlQTPNwrCHehdkKxacTKsWE/+ZhcCksTskByo5PL /a377FWKkG2wpDiWBa08kwLHFrbLVbZGY/cgibINg8YNYKKFwoNLZV7V6957B3HAhI f9J6i60e/HTTTnLFq5AhTC0d2/HKjuXFIzY+w6fU= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41598-06 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:13:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id 76E37B8031; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:13:32 +0100 (CET) To: Freebsd questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:13:32 +0100 From: Zbigniew Szalbot Cc: In-Reply-To: <49CBD2EE.7040506@bluelight.org.uk> References: <1fdf83980903260854u6695205bg546d40706098f174@mail.gmail.com> <49CBD2EE.7040506@bluelight.org.uk> Message-ID: <0b8036476b4427ea071107586fd8fb95@lcwords.com> X-Sender: z.szalbot@lcwords.com User-Agent: RoundCube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Subject: Re: problem with postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:13:34 -0000 > Upali Rajapakse wrote: >> I installed postfix on frebsd 7 >> i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. >> >> and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. >> can you help me? I find this page really helpful: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 HTH Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 07:59:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFAF1065674 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invisionCBC3live@invisionemail1.com) Received: from invisionemail1.com (www.invisionemail1.com [64.58.240.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B028FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invisionCBC3live@invisionemail1.com) Received: from Pickup by mmmail001.MMDomain.local with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:40:07 +0000 X-Sender: invision3cbcmail@rebackoffice.com X-Receiver: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Lauren Schlesinger To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:35:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: aspNetEmail ver 3.6.0.77 X-BPS1: 14648 X-BPS2: 411230 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: 200 West Broadway - AAA Development Site - Just Reduced X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lauren.schlesinger@cbcny.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:59:25 -0000 NOTE: If you would like to be removed from this list, please scroll down= and click on the link below To unsubscribe, use this link: http://invision3cold.reapplications.com//p= ublic/eTracking.aspx?act=3Du&uCID=3D20fc0e6c-3f7d-4260-8357-bb967794aae8&= eID=3D5b1a68aa-2036-42a5-86d7-bac7f2262005 You have received a text version of this email. To see the HTML version,= use this link: http://invision3cold.reapplications.com//public/eViewPubl= ic.aspx?cID=3D411230&eID=3D5b1a68aa-2036-42a5-86d7-bac7f2262005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 08:34:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D96106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FDE8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177241171.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.241.171]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv1o-1Ln7Vx20Zy-000jBQ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:34:10 +0100 Message-ID: <49CC8F78.9090001@janh.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:34:00 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: 200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+2KoevGu0u4oXnlaCvBC9FnWXvkx70X1Hfiw5 DGIJlNEu/lw7RgwYkUSm/taoafvG687nllHr5y0qe5wwkeNwKN /yba9XijEn11Yjz1LXL5g== Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:34:32 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not > required by any other package? cd /var/db/pkg/ ; for i in *-* ; do if [ ! -e $i/+REQUIRED_BY ] ; then echo $i ; fi ; done > Ultimately, that would give a list of "software" versus "libraries". Not really. Only runtime dependencies are in +REQUIRED_BY, not build time dependencies. > The question arise because, while installing a new machine, I found > out that I have help2man installed, that is not required by any other > package, that I did not install myself, that looks unneeded to me > (until I may need it one day). So I would remove it; and would like to > make a list of what is removable (that I did not install, and that is > not required). help2man is a build dependency of flex, which is a build dependency of gstreamer. gstreamer is a runtime dependency of many application (wxwidget stuff; from kde world: amarok2, ktorrent; from gnome: gimp, pidgin, ...) If you update or rebuild gstreamer, help2man and flex will be reinstalled and the update takes longer than necessary. If you want to be able to update ports quickly, you should keep the build dependencies. Doing "make pretty-print-build-depends-list" in a ports directory gives you the build dependencies. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 09:00:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37FB1065670 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857118FC1A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALsxzEnDDR9Z/2dsb2JhbADOWIN3Bg Received: from event89.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 27 Mar 2009 10:00:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:57:54 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Jan Henrik Sylvester Message-ID: <20090327085735.GA27072@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <49CC8F78.9090001@janh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49CC8F78.9090001@janh.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Olivier Nicole , questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:00:24 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:34:00AM +0100, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > Olivier Nicole wrote: > > Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not > > required by any other package? > > cd /var/db/pkg/ ; for i in *-* ; do if [ ! -e $i/+REQUIRED_BY ] ; then > echo $i ; fi ; done > > > Ultimately, that would give a list of "software" versus "libraries". > > Not really. Only runtime dependencies are in +REQUIRED_BY, not build > time dependencies. > > > The question arise because, while installing a new machine, I found > > out that I have help2man installed, that is not required by any other > > package, that I did not install myself, that looks unneeded to me > > (until I may need it one day). So I would remove it; and would like to > > make a list of what is removable (that I did not install, and that is > > not required). > > help2man is a build dependency of flex, which is a build dependency of > gstreamer. gstreamer is a runtime dependency of many application > (wxwidget stuff; from kde world: amarok2, ktorrent; from gnome: gimp, > pidgin, ...) If you update or rebuild gstreamer, help2man and flex will > be reinstalled and the update takes longer than necessary. > > If you want to be able to update ports quickly, you should keep the > build dependencies. Doing "make pretty-print-build-depends-list" in a > ports directory gives you the build dependencies. > > Cheers, > Jan Henrik > _______________________________________________ How about pkg_cutleaves -> cat /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves/pkg-descr pkg_cutleaves finds installed 'leaf' packages, i.e. packages that are not referenced by any other installed package, and lets you decide for each one if you want to keep or deinstall it (via pkg_deinstall(1)). > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 09:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC1F106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC058FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177241171.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.241.171]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML29c-1Ln87U2iWu-0001YK; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: <49CC9899.1020402@janh.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:12:57 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Alain G. Fabry" References: <49CC8F78.9090001@janh.de> <20090327085735.GA27072@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> In-Reply-To: <20090327085735.GA27072@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18J6nvoTZYnPIDJBNBzAqsNNTp3mz1ROb49L1v GvB/YH/DfY3wseZKp/vN5ElP3fQcaLrmYoTMmH15iO5/kUsh4W vC/aRXyXHWdEmmv+oLFYg== Cc: Olivier Nicole , questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:08 -0000 Alain G. Fabry wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:34:00AM +0100, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: >> Olivier Nicole wrote: >>> Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not >>> required by any other package? >> cd /var/db/pkg/ ; for i in *-* ; do if [ ! -e $i/+REQUIRED_BY ] ; then >> echo $i ; fi ; done [...] >> If you want to be able to update ports quickly, you should keep the >> build dependencies. Doing "make pretty-print-build-depends-list" in a >> ports directory gives you the build dependencies. [...] > How about pkg_cutleaves Is there anything about build dependencies in cutleaves? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves/files/pkg_cutleaves?rev=1.2 I do not see it at a quick glance. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 09:55:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1336C106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CAE8FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from games-fd ([192.168.2.138]) by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ln87h-0007wY-3Q for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:10 +0000 Message-ID: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:12 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Cheers Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 10:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD31106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CE38FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696357E818; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:34:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:32:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> In-Reply-To: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903271132.58872.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tobias Rehbein Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:34:17 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:20:45 Tobias Rehbein wrote: > Hi all. > > I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but fails on > FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: > > sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > > After this line the following evaluates to true: > > $! eq "No such file or directory." If you're running this in a jail, then cd0 is hidden by devfs, hence the ENOENT. You will need to provide a jail specific ruleset, or override devfsrules_jail from /etc/defaults/devfs.rules in /etc/devfs.rules so it applies to all jails without modification to /etc/rc.conf. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 10:44:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0B1106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674BE8FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n2RAkEct067543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:46:15 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <49CCADF7.5040902@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:44:07 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-GB; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <200903271132.58872.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200903271132.58872.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tobias Rehbein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:44:11 -0000 On 27/3/09 10:32, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:20:45 Tobias Rehbein wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but fails on >> FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: >> >> sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) >> >> After this line the following evaluates to true: >> >> $! eq "No such file or directory." >> > > If you're running this in a jail, then cd0 is hidden by devfs, hence the > ENOENT. You will need to provide a jail specific ruleset, or override > devfsrules_jail from /etc/defaults/devfs.rules in /etc/devfs.rules so it > applies to all jails without modification to /etc/rc.conf. > By default for an ATA/ATAPI CDROM, you get an /dev/acd0 not a /dev/cd0 in FreeBSD. [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/cd0 ls: /dev/cd0: No such file or directory [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/acd0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 74 Feb 6 12:11 /dev/acd0 [root@seaurchin ~]# To have a /dev/cd0 either use a scsi CDROM or kldload atapicam which allows ATAPI devices to be accessed via the cam subsytem and will create a /dev/cd0 node [root@seaurchin ~]# kldload atapicam [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/cd0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 113 Feb 6 12:11 /dev/cd0 or just change the code to use /dev/acd0 Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 10:57:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACC7106567F for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3AC08FC2F for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Mar 2009 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from d90-136-211-58.cust.tele2.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [90.136.211.58] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 27 Mar 2009 11:30:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19gjVlu6iRgAQhVfBHGXaabhMrIQQdEKymQ5GT8rP uf11wH6eRmGHRw Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:30:20 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Terry Message-Id: <20090327113020.c68b7929.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__27_Mar_2009_11_30_20_+0100_m=KBf.sciyWbW_Aw" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:57:19 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__27_Mar_2009_11_30_20_+0100_m=KBf.sciyWbW_Aw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:12 +0000 Terry wrote: > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some=20 > files for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know how=20 > to open a browser. > Internally files are shared using samba. > Has any one come across any thing ? Apache. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__27_Mar_2009_11_30_20_+0100_m=KBf.sciyWbW_Aw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknMqr4ACgkQ8P3NNypXNWW8dACeKhXwMpN/kg8cMMnk8qQbSrOa HiQAn2Gblo4S+FYIAcGN3OWOeQkv1UJE =pumO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__27_Mar_2009_11_30_20_+0100_m=KBf.sciyWbW_Aw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 11:31:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F21065673 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CCD8FC1A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so920487bwz.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:31:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tbqXPHHnWSpHAySwlE9OR2I0aYj8TrCyAwPxQdo4C60=; b=GmAptk41UzB7aGcU55ggyu5XTsAKL36tsHiBHpE+UP9m56euDyI0SJmD+eV2lkrKEC CV9i452S/wXygmPb+Jf/vY2763jFWQiU1zjGqaYG79PGM8m6yfjpSWqFKdA+lnlMaHyW 8XAQLHSq7YD0agKeL6F41qhQCOSiZiVfDAtlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=DrW2zV7P34tia/vq4oGE0j1DZqE0Q1nRY8XhkRcKMZe1guiVp7pGcUsUg8YT8OQRZN nRjk7Kmox6uR9BtgNiO2sdC6TH0lMRpx55xNtg3ckRpHBGyrvTqo3aSfILEQ+wwUib0p C+F8FOaZn2G7103+e13Ly7eYFbJrt5gPIKSkY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.1 with SMTP id o1mr1513705faq.53.1238151946038; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:05:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:45 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903270405l37616404x180490436df43dd5@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: Terry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:31:52 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Terry wrote: > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some files > for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know how to open a > browser. > Internally files are shared using samba. > Has any one come across any thing ? Well, you could run an FTP server, OR publish the files using Apache with some authentication, depending on where the files are stored. eGroupware is another application that can allow them to access the files, or even upload other files, IIRC, but that's a bigger monster. Can you please explain your setup situation better than you have done already? Are the files stored in ~user? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 11:40:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517F0106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: from mail12.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail12.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EEB8FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: (qmail 5758 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2009 11:14:02 -0000 Received: from dsl093-216-153.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.101]) (ldunham@[66.93.216.153]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Mar 2009 11:13:59 -0000 From: "Jerry Dunham" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:13:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49CC6EA1.7834.21F2951@jdunham.texas.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:40:43 -0000 On 27 Mar 2009 at 9:13, Terry wrote: > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some > files for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know how > to open a browser. > Internally files are shared using samba. > Has any one come across any thing ? I use: http://www.4shared.com and am happy with them. There are many other choices in the cloud. -- Jerry Dunham jdunham@texas.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 11:50:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793DE106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E398FC20 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnAaE-00059X-8i; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:46 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2RBojPE005150; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:45 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90929FCA699; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , Chris Whitehouse , FreeBSD Questions References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:51 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of > >months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On > >reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an > >excellent job > > of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. > > Just i don't understand the idea of wasting the power of good hardware > just to waste. IMO, making the user experience a little less daunting is a good use of hardware. Saying that, I've introduced my nephew (age 14) to FreeBSD proper. He made good progress and managed to build himself a PC (with some brief written instructions from me) and to install but came unstuck on an unsupported video card and lack of a decent 'net connection. But I'll fix him up when I go out to Oz later this year by which time he should have broadband. I wanted him to have a sound understanding of the fundamentals and how everything fits together. I don't think PC-BSD would have done that. But a copy of FreeBSD 7.0 (downloaded at school), a book on vim and a book on ksh should give him a good start to computing nirvana ;) Sorry if I've strayed off-topic. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 12:31:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B694106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D60448FC13 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59099 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2009 12:31:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=E+Re0Hyv9ahY9UgQ6XaZ9WydnxY/pT2nhMJtUh/AgH/wd0nrpK0bS+9COJYa844T2tqQkhdggPgBZcNbZyvGuxQ+3MoAePT1Vc+1HJtlv3UckpAFu/3UVpMwHdvD8OW0rABJOVUohPL3WhI3DeJJvwR+KiFKC/hkSp5jZCps5kk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2009 12:31:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rGbDhscVM1lbhu9NpA_91QvYutQIfwTPtbB7rJU3FGC0UNO4YIspXOFaNMXPL3n7oad_5rmxOOPNxXTT.5Ju.ZV91UiVxIRAaSwS0MrcS0Cr14sKcv2sFUA7_LnQ4.zW3yM6197SfX0L5ox.6.xDgIK7qtiYkqS4jMkqmGFErCtFdgufwdjIN3dJcvRs8z0.sockwyGTr_LDhkShGI5GdOAijZnF.7M- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:31:31 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <49C98507.6040905@gwi.net> <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/d2XbQL6fx4qfRqesqL2T2s4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:31:43 -0000 --Sig_/d2XbQL6fx4qfRqesqL2T2s4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple >> >of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I >> >love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the >> >developers have done an excellent job >>=20 >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. > >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for the information. MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. What is it you are looking for? --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com A bore is a man who talks so much about himself that you can't talk about yourself. --Sig_/d2XbQL6fx4qfRqesqL2T2s4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknMxywACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3BNwCfcibw6QXsI6lRRx3Wb1UkxXX+ LCEAniS9cY4abiaqiHfdl49FY56DumlJ =ME2f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/d2XbQL6fx4qfRqesqL2T2s4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 13:17:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746111065674 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9EF8FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emagutu@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so978643ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:17:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yEPbl2eqbPEJm3G+Oz7prqoquUx1m3ahAod7JgRr+9k=; b=Nn3Z5NiWQR+gUK5j8CVODfnzA6mx2YH99HUSxKRy4a51syj0ION56NTOgU/uzM5S2k CICw6Y6KqoV/ttmC3fbXMxxaPWAThPT0m3X6MhkTCTkeY1vCOK8jfAi+RwI8pRr4799p 9I0qeJIJcmZ3xwDj/XIYJ4UZX08kQiL2DuY7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x/ELUaMwf8hn+jUBoLOQwoVuon7DSIMjcgTeuIyc6SvsbwBxHk/wLMYaJkBR3CU0CW v4lTrAvV2F4VfkrGEy1x7WhJPKCUVFapln3iWqH7ENAvTXY3cbx1jiunROo7zl+FxhDG +fciZ3wjtfPuWNw5l7gLu8chXTC1/iZQg6bdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.209 with SMTP id g59mr792940wea.96.1238159843628; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:17:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53529.216.241.167.212.1237911183.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B4283F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605B42A8F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:17:23 +0300 Message-ID: From: Eric Magutu To: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: first firewall with pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:17:25 -0000 Hi, You were right it had to do my topology. The firewall is working correctly now. Thanks again for all you help On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Eric Magutu wrote: > Hi Micheal, > I was trying to simulate the conditions of the server on a test machine. > I'm pretty sure now I didn't take into account all the network aspects, > silly mistake :-) Its probably my routing. I will check on my routes > tomorrow and get back to you. > I think there is only one active interface though. > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost < > mksmith@adhost.com> wrote: > >> Hello Eric: >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Can you provide a little more information about your topology? Right now, >> you only have one interface defined in your rules, but you are attempting to >> pass traffic between two subnets. That would suggest you have two >> interfaces and, if so, both need to be accounted for in your rules below. >> You'll have to have pass/block rules for both. It looks like this: >> >> 172.16.0.0/16 -> le0 -> (some other interface) -> 10.0.0.0 >> >> Could you tell me if that is correct? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> ----- Original Message Snipped ----- >> Thanks for all your input so far. I have tried to implement all you >> suggestions but have gotten stuck. I set up a test machine in the office >> with the ip 10.0.0.110 and encountered the following problems: >> >> when I enables antispoofing the firewall didn't work >> >> when I tried allowing the 10.0.0.0 subnet it worked ok but when i tried >> connecting from machines on the 172.16 subnet I was unable to connect. >> >> Can you please let me know what I'm doing wrong? >> ---------------------------------------- >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Eric Magutu > > -- Regards, Eric Magutu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 13:57:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39AF106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715258FC22 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnCYr-0007NQ-9y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:57:29 -0700 Message-ID: <22742140.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: regis505 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: regis505@gmail.com Subject: Wake-up on LAN for Broadcom BCM5721 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:31 -0000 Hi, I have a Broadcom BCM5721 network adapter and I wonder how I can trigger the Wake-up on LAN feature. ifconfig does not report any WOL options. Something I could add in rc.conf or with sysctl to activate it? I am running 7.1-STABLE. Thanks bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether **:**:**:**:**:** inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wake-up-on-LAN-for-Broadcom-BCM5721-tp22742140p22742140.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 14:23:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E47F106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408AD8FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so2097311qyk.3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nnxjtH7pxv654KIT+cwSJh/OvREQjj13FPxyFqXugtM=; b=qjm02tTjJHEvEzJPeP+MMAjVqQ6+r3bwQ+lE++o0AO9uw12ieXiigUdyjnmlaUT97R 76V60pnRpNab+De/r7xGIKD4YVSdRYroZgtUbnAvLTJR4sBpmF7cGbaQILzN+RbaKMDC hGxQS6sLfgY3onu2srL/2rtUAfxh/pxffv+04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aHSP83GkwlA7wR4C9VPag1SMnUMHCrdtwCOUN9d+Am+Ygk95KRPvEA5yMX5jpRref1 Um9GasxNm2kTwwwCbFVHro6/vcwUogBKCK6jOcH/RhQtim0wpNxAQMpl9DQyA7tx1Gbo 91eKIhS+nZuMT7vi/9WmKLNgEBPOpotC705cU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.92.194 with SMTP id s2mr612281vcm.10.1238163813411; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22742140.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <22742140.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:23:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: regis505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wake-up on LAN for Broadcom BCM5721 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:23:35 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:57 AM, regis505 wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Broadcom BCM5721 network adapter and I wonder how I can trigger > the > Wake-up on LAN feature. ifconfig does not report any WOL options. Something > I could add in rc.conf or with sysctl to activate it? I am running > 7.1-STABLE. > > Thanks > > bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9b > ether **:**:**:**:**:** > inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > FreeBSD doesn't have any hooks in the NIC driver(s) (all of them) that enables WOL after the machine shuts down. It is a driver option that enables that functionality and although there were patches written for a few chipsets, nothing was implemented into the OS. Put another way, there is zero support for WOL after you run FreeBSD, since the FreeBSD driver does not include that hook. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 14:42:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687F7106567F for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net [79.135.125.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC918FC32 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-179-6-169.dsl.pipex.com ([81.179.6.169] helo=[192.168.1.246] country=GB ident=postmaster#pop3&waywood^co*uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 49cce5d5.5d5c.8c6; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:29 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:27 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:33 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > > So, you *could* do this: > su - to root > Download the wine tarball and untar it > Go in to the wine directory and type the following, in order: > ./configure --without-x > make depends > make > make install > > That will install wine on your system without X. Figuring out how to > get your rendering binary to run is an exercise for you. :-) > > I left wine without x installed on my system. If you have questions, I > *may* be able to help. > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I can find no answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible for one reason or another, place to download application source to? Presumably you don't want it mixed up in the ports distfiles, or in the system's source directory. I know this sounds very silly, and the answer might be 'wherever you like', but I do like to learn the conventions which usually have good reasons behind them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 14:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C446B1065719 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6188FC18 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDJU-0004Oy-DO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:40 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2REjcs8001294 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:38 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 89188FCA699; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:43 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 > Frank Shute wrote: > > >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple > >> >of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I > >> >love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the > >> >developers have done an excellent job > >> > >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. > > > >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got > >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and > >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. > > Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for > the information. Four of what? Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the info locally? I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and undocumented. > MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. Are you being sarcastic? Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? You can read the source can you? I can't. Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're looking for at all. > What is it you are looking for? Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the Vista Explorer replacement. Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the commands it supports. It doesn't. I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a bonus too. Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't seem to be readily available. In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate amounts of time on google. The cost and time benefits didn't seem worth it since I'm quite happy with FreeBSD and there's only one Windows only application that I use: AutoCAD; for that I maintain an XP installation. Staying on topic, my advice to the original poster is to dump Windows and use FreeBSD - it's better documented and you can either use WINE to run your "must have" Windows programs or have a separate Windows partition. With a bit of luck your Windows "must haves" will eventually have unix replacements. > -- > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com > > A bore is a man who talks so much about > himself that you can't talk about yourself. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 14:54:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0B11065670 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E46E8FC28 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDS9-0000ay-9n; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:54:37 -0300 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:57:16 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Wright Sender: andrew@qemg.org To: Barnaby Scott In-Reply-To: <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:40 -0000 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Barnaby Scott wrote: > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I can find no > answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible for one reason or another, > place to download application source to? Presumably you don't want it mixed Not dumb at all. There are several conventions. The one I use is to have a user named "build". This provides a natural home for these packages (the home directory of that account) as well as nice management for setting uname, potential wheel association etc. for an account that is used for building system libs by executing "su - build" to get that type of admin process underway. A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 15:09:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49452106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2D98FC16 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from thoth.techally.com ([204.107.76.235]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:39:12 -0400 References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> Message-Id: <98C06EFF-E52B-4A5F-B30F-D350BDC6D17E@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: Terry In-Reply-To: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:37:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:09:27 -0000 On Mar 27, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Terry wrote: > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some > files for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know > how to open a browser. > Internally files are shared using samba. > Has any one come across any thing ? > > Cheers > Terry Depending on the client OSes you could go with a WebDAV based solution. Apache has several modules for dealing with dav. Mac OS X, KDE, and even most versions of Windows have built-in clients. Cheers, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, Daemon News Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court Medford, NY 11763 http://www.olivent.com http://www.daemonnews.org http://www.bsdmag.org skype: mikel.king t: 631.627.3055 m: 646.554.3660 +------------------------------------------+ How do you spell cooperation? Pessimists use each other, but optimists help each other. Collaboration feeds your spirit, while competition only stokes your ego. You'll find the best way to get along. +------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 15:35:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0950A106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8270F8FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RFYwHB064662; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:35:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2RFYwnw064661; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:34:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:34:58 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200903271534.n2RFYwnw064661@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:35:22 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Tablet PC recommendation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:25 -0000 Hi I'm looking for a small tablet PC. In other words, a touch-screen with built-in CPU (without keyboard). Does any such thing exist that runs FreeBSD, including touch-screen support? It should be small (the smaller, the better). The CPU and graphics performance don't matter at all; I don't plan to do any fancy 3D stuff on it. Power consumption should be as low as possible. Any recommendations? Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd PI: int f[9814],b,c=9814,g,i;long a=1e4,d,e,h; main(){for(;b=c,c-=14;i=printf("%04d",e+d/a),e=d%a) while(g=--b*2)d=h*b+a*(i?f[b]:a/5),h=d/--g,f[b]=d%g;} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 15:36:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A4310656C3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FED8FC26 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RFaatn052688; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:36:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2RFaabN052685; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:36:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:36:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: regis505 In-Reply-To: <22742140.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: References: <22742140.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wake-up on LAN for Broadcom BCM5721 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:36:54 -0000 why you want to activate WOL while computer is already on power? it's in BIOS options On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, regis505 wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Broadcom BCM5721 network adapter and I wonder how I can trigger the > Wake-up on LAN feature. ifconfig does not report any WOL options. Something > I could add in rc.conf or with sysctl to activate it? I am running > 7.1-STABLE. > > Thanks > > bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9b > ether **:**:**:**:**:** > inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wake-up-on-LAN-for-Broadcom-BCM5721-tp22742140p22742140.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 15:46:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAABD10656D6 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951748FC19 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so790708ywh.13 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:46:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yZTCkmQGJwjtg01xDXHwHa8a2unDrnQjXbUItwmHOR4=; b=FUq6JYPV4i3FRnutW3qPxkWNobG1SV8I8lgMJ4IXuRGk7ii8WMUvK0lPcQd5T0jKX/ gRGRpCToo+BgC9K/Yr5dN0yRm9z3Zdr37CX26XQfKghIEfL9g9RjUoHxeDAe+KJIDkWr wiCFWhqh6TSICuIS7KI42oHfJ8A0DpmpwL7qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YxwzXEYQyQSsXzrcupAR8AKhPSjtlhTMOb3h0ko1BDeWyOguESH3s9jeS4TxfHFZ3Q XAcFJ9sHG/XTQwk4p4hvLLK1n9/f2SmOdqGVZARTM1yi1sMyUZlgFoX69i5UjI6v6zAi dPUQqgbh1A0e2qu0bh5hFo/h6oJ0NbUrkpNq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.225.17 with SMTP id x17mr4000213ybg.219.1238167073520; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:17:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98C06EFF-E52B-4A5F-B30F-D350BDC6D17E@olivent.com> References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> <98C06EFF-E52B-4A5F-B30F-D350BDC6D17E@olivent.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:17:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mikel King Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Terry , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:46:57 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Mikel King wrote: > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Terry wrote: > > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some files >> for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know how to open a >> browser. >> Internally files are shared using samba. >> Has any one come across any thing ? >> >> Cheers >> Terry >> > > Depending on the client OSes you could go with a WebDAV based solution. > Apache has several modules for dealing with dav. Mac OS X, KDE, and even > most versions of Windows have built-in clients. > > > Cheers, > Mikel King > CEO, Olivent Technologies > Senior Editor, Daemon News > Columnist, BSD Magazine > 6 Alpine Court > Medford, NY 11763 > http://www.olivent.com > http://www.daemonnews.org > http://www.bsdmag.org > skype: mikel.king > t: 631.627.3055 > m: 646.554.3660 > I've found WebDAV to be a good choice. I would suggest that you allow only secure access (https, port 443) to the web server. I have port 80 turned off and blocked by a firewall. It takes a little more configuration; but I think it's well worth the effort. I have accessed WebDAV via secure web from both Mac OSX and Windows XP. I know nothing of Vista (lucky me), so I can't speak to its compatibility. Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 16:09:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A330A1065673 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECC88FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so2202949qyk.3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JYo5OsjQDB5DD+6dBD/HDJG/io2vOnMO1xNiIcqQcDg=; b=QMiPFs6E27g0WRjLcS00M92qPa+WTlfRT7phws3eOsVND/KtNyHv9wdr9DBZBDc1fd 4l7CwddyqkerrVQ3Vcp3Wi/F++hAsRzuBUq2NnNv1M+Jpx7ehaZI1utCxQVNP1J+5nla Vahisk7vXNKj9ggMn3u6HP6rI+SW2h9tjyhzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VCPgiAxduu9S+tNeGxxgRIQ6J8lxMpORCnT4zooEHRKQT2R9ghbNv2YHQlohIQ7Eoh foqwNeYYOYPPafUJkbR+vDiszX2pk9npAukTP3zfUEPPrfDAaqAmWLMu8zlPSUmhQwRH em6DZ2PC+D2CLQsxbpyFQ6wYoX9TXvcRZwjBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.95.68 with SMTP id c4mr727144vcn.25.1238170192186; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:09:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:09:53 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 > > Frank Shute wrote: > > > > >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >> > > >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple > > >> >of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I > > >> >love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the > > >> >developers have done an excellent job > > >> > > >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. > > > > > >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got > > >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and > > >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. > > > > Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for > > the information. > > Four of what? > > Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the > info locally? Want to download the Internet? Ok, as soon as 5 minutes pass from the download, your copy is old. > I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install > cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and > undocumented. > > > MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. > I can see that perception. Depends on where you look though. Limiting yourself to one source (google) or another (MSDN) isn't wise, because google will give you real-world experience and help, whereas MSDN is documented as it SHOULD operate and RECOMMENDED practices. > Are you being sarcastic? > I'm not. > Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? > Write one, publish it. > You can read the source can you? I can't. > > Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be > scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're > looking for at all. > Because not a single admin works the same as the next. People with Windows mindset will work in one way, people with Linux mindset will work another, and people with OS X mindset will work in a 3rd way, all unique.so > > What is it you are looking for? > > Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are > some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they > are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a > limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the > Vista Explorer replacement. > Useless insults aside, there is a difference in the help systems for the desktop systems, versus the server systems. 2008 is a good mix, although it's not unix. OS X 10.5, Leopard is certified unix, and still doesn't feel as natural (or useful) as BSD or Linux does. If you want to know why, let me know. > Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some > documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the > commands it supports. It doesn't. > manpages aren't an Internet thing. It's not an RFC standard. MS Windows has command line help, you use /? that works for most apps. cmd /? > I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use > to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a > bonus too. > I see the sense in C:\Users I see the sense in C:\Documents and Settings I see the sense in C:\WINDOWS I see the sense in using CMD.exe -- after all, the dos box has been around forever An editor better than Notepad? MS Write. And then MS Office/Word, then OpenOffice. Somewhere there's Abiwrite. Of all these 5, only one is commercial software. > Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. > Nope. That's a personal belief, one that isn't a "must". You're imagining things on that. > I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no > avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member > of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't > seem to be readily available. > PowerShell is still "new".. If you want documentation, MS Press makes a windows 2008 resource kit including a book called 'Windows PowerShell Scripting Guide' that's over 600 pages. Not all resources have to be google-able. Spend a few bucks and buy something that'll help you... it'll benefit you too. > In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like > wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out > of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download > vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate amounts of > time on google. > Books. Or get something like a Safari Books Online subscription and then start reading the info online... same books, online. Save a tree. > The cost and time benefits didn't seem worth it since I'm quite happy > with FreeBSD and there's only one Windows only application that I use: > AutoCAD; for that I maintain an XP installation. > > Staying on topic, my advice to the original poster is to dump Windows > and use FreeBSD - it's better documented and you can either use WINE > to run your "must have" Windows programs or have a separate Windows > partition. With a bit of luck your Windows "must haves" will eventually > have unix replacements. > On-topic? HAH! You went off the deep end. And Wine doesn't work for when you need NT Services and/or dependencies (such as .NET) -- at least, didn't for me. And I am flaming you, personally. I understood lots of this was personal views and I offered my personal views as well. So fan the flame if you want. I've said my peice and now you can ignore me if you'd like. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 16:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73811065672 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s26.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s26.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE80D8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W35 ([64.4.61.135]) by bay0-omc2-s26.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:42:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [201.212.199.195] From: Ramiro Caso To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:42:01 -0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49CC44AC.6010401@skytracker.ca> References: <20090324195751.GA20259@skytracker.ca> <49CC44AC.6010401@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2009 16:42:01.0502 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3F92BE0:01C9AEFA] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: renaming many Chinese files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:42:02 -0000 > Date: Thu=2C 26 Mar 2009 23:14:52 -0400 > To: misha_78@hotmail.com > From: david+dated+1238555693.f4db0d@skytracker.ca > CC: questions@freebsd.org=3B david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca > Subject: Re: renaming many Chinese files >=20 > that worked fine. Thanks. Glad it did. And sorry for the top-posting before (kind of new at this) > > Just a very quick thought (the first that pops into my mind): you could > > see which are the western characters that appear in the names=2C and th= en > > use sed to substitute all non-matching characters with nothing=2C > > something like: > > > > for i in *.jpg=3B do b=3D"`echo $i | sed 's/[^CHAR_SET]//g'`"=3B mv $i = $b=3B done > > > > (without > > forgetting=2C obviously=2C to add . to the CHAR_SET=2C something like: > > [^a-zA-Z0-9.]=3B if you figure out a less clumsy way=2C please=2C share= !!) > > I'm guessing that the initial 'P123' is just an example=2C or this will > > horribly backfire. But I'm really=2C REALLY=2C taking a shot in the dar= k > > here... (if you already thought of this=2C and it just doesn't work=2C > > sorry for the useless pitch) > > > > > > =20 > >> Date: Tue=2C 24 Mar 2009 15:57:51 -0400 > >> To: questions@freebsd.org > >> From: david+dated+1238356671.fa5de5@skytracker.ca > >> CC:=20 > >> Subject: renaming many Chinese files > >> > >> I have hundreds of jpg images where each image is named P123****.jpg > >> where the **** are chinese characters. I can't open the file - it > >> has to be renamed before I can open it. Evening if I could open it > >> I don't want the Chinese part as the name. > >> > >> Each file starts with 3 or four western characters and then has 3 or > >> four chinese characters=2C before the western .jpg extension. > >> > >> I want to to test each filename character by character > >> to see if it is western=2C and then when the first Chinese Character i= s=20 > >> found=2C have it simply rename the file to the 3 or four western-chara= cter=20 > >> name + .jpg > >> > >> I can write most of the script but I don't know how to test for=20 > >> western and/or Chinese characters. > >> =20 > >> I could run a script that would simply rename all the files to=20 > >> a number in sequential order but I would rather use the existing > >> starting name of the file if possible. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@free= bsd.org" > >> =20 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Encontr=E1 el auto de tus sue=F1os en MSN=20 > > http://xml.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/msn/autos.html__________________= _____________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" > > > > =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" _________________________________________________________________ =BFQuer=E9s saber c=F3mo va a estar el clima ma=F1ana? Ingres=E1 ahora a MS= N http://tiempo.ar.msn.com/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 17:28:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7278B106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=33096784f@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402568FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=33096784f@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,433,1233554400"; d="scan'208";a="9362097" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 27 Mar 2009 11:59:28 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F0098361; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:59:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:59:28 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Barnaby Scott Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:28:08 -0000 --On Friday, March 27, 2009 09:42:27 -0500 Barnaby Scott wrote: > > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I can find no > answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible for one reason or > another, place to download application source to? Presumably you don't > want it mixed up in the ports distfiles, or in the system's source > directory. I know this sounds very silly, and the answer might be > 'wherever you like', but I do like to learn the conventions which > usually have good reasons behind them. I don't know that there's a convention for it, but it makes good sense to separate any source installs from the base system and ports system. I use a folder named Downloads, put the tar files in there and then untar them. That creates a separate directory for each untarred source code and leaves the tarballs in the base directory. The more critical question is where should you install the software. By default wine installs everything in /usr/local/bin/, /usr/local/lib/wine, /usr/local/include/wine and /usr/local/share/wine, which agrees with the default locations for files of those types on FreeBSD. Some people prefer to install compiled-from-source software in other locations. It's really up to you. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 17:56:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACF7106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546C18FC26 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so848179tia.3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WuUxvLppITbJXnHzfDOaieQbmlKHojy8JZcrHW6ZmOM=; b=sPoJey5N85umULsfbCTxM//sptAbebZm3nmMX16G+I6rHeYO+EDd+VdpRwccZjUL3d 39lYoYn2Ig/80URZ3HmQpSLjVD4o+e8LEGKRr+pnVX3T+MTRs04tUUhwzXNYTYSZ9QE0 JBVpWG+MbIB3KGYbVdVqkjQMZlj9fwd2DSEzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wl6QTVPDHPATWe0GeYLh237MoK42AIJDL4b80JCPVOlZqjmm/Qu9Lmg03D8sYpjDLD sLfC4/5VONrqqHf1uRO2otqd0F2BH0/u+eHFD44WukppGGeRUAXPM20tArn8oXW8jYG5 Fr08Z7d0DLyGz9G3x7uzu1EebZEJ5TF5fD/Ug= Received: by 10.110.103.5 with SMTP id a5mr1022861tic.46.1238176584062; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([117.196.224.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 25sm1250140tif.32.2009.03.27.10.56.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD13A3.1030806@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:27:55 +0530 From: manish jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090327120013.DBDA010656FC@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090327120013.DBDA010656FC@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Blundered with gnome-desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:56:26 -0000 Hi all, I blundered - I downloaded the latest ports tarball and did a 'make install' in deskutils/conduit. The conduit port asked for a deinstall followed by a reinstall in gnome-desktop, which I promptly complied with. As was bound to happen, everything in gnome is now broken/paralysed. Being a gnomer, I do not want to abandon my gnome environment. Just to make sure before attempting recovery, will the following 2 steps generally be able to fix things for me : #1) pkgdb -aF #2) portupgrade -L /var/gnome2-upgrade-logs/portupgrade-%s::%s.log -l \ /root/gnome2-portupgrade-results.txt -vrR -x gnome-desktop gnome-desktop -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 18:02:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AC8106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marco.borsatino@poste.it) Received: from relay-pt2.poste.it (relay-pt2.poste.it [62.241.5.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ECC8FC25 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marco.borsatino@poste.it) Received: from poste.it (192.168.144.24) by relay-pt2.poste.it (7.3.122) (authenticated as marco.borsatino@poste.it) id 49CC17810000A10F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:41:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:41:52 +0100 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "marco\.borsatino\@poste\.it" To: "freebsd-questions" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.3 (R1) (B3pl19) X-SenderIP: 79.30.227.49 Subject: using ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:02:20 -0000 Hi all. I'm trying to use ntfs-3g driver on FreeBsd 7.1. After installing the precompiled package, I try to mount a NTFS volume. The syntax seems to be quite simple, but I fail. First attempt: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/ mount: /dev/ad0s3 : Operation not supported by device Second attempt: ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/ fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory The same volume mounted with the standard command: # mount_ntfs /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista [root@odino ~]# mount /dev/ad8s2a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad8s2d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad8s1 on /mnt/win_xp (ntfs, local, read-only) /dev/ad8s3 on /mnt/dati_xp (ntfs, local, read-only) /dev/ad0s3 on /mnt/dati_vista (ntfs, local) gives me the expected result. What is my mistake? Thanks. Marco Borsatino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 18:22:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E1B106572C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A7E8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnGh4-0000Oy-Lv; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:14 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2RIMDtE016690; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:14 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AA44FCA699; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:08 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090327182208.GA89638@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:22:22 -0000 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:09:52AM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 > > > Frank Shute wrote: > > > > > > >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple > > > >> >of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I > > > >> >love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the > > > >> >developers have done an excellent job > > > >> > > > >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. > > > > > > > >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got > > > >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and > > > >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. > > > > > > Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for > > > the information. > > > > Four of what? > > > > Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the > > info locally? > > > Want to download the Internet? Ok, as soon as 5 minutes pass from the > download, your copy is old. So you're trying to say that all local documentation is useless because it's out of date after 5 minutes? Sit back and work out why your statement is retarded. > > > > I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install > > cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and > > undocumented. > > > > > MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. > > > > I can see that perception. That's right it's a perception - a wrong one. > Depends on where you look though. Limiting > yourself to one source (google) or another (MSDN) isn't wise, because google > will give you real-world experience and help, whereas MSDN is documented as > it SHOULD operate and RECOMMENDED practices. MSDN cost money last time I looked. > > > > Are you being sarcastic? > > > > I'm not. I didn't ask you. > > > > Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? > > > > Write one, publish it. You're being bloody silly now. > > > > You can read the source can you? I can't. > > > > Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be > > scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're > > looking for at all. > > > > Because not a single admin works the same as the next. People with Windows > mindset will work in one way, people with Linux mindset will work another, > and people with OS X mindset will work in a 3rd way, all unique.so There's one recommended and widely respected way of working with anything vaguely technical: read & grok it's documentation. > > > > > What is it you are looking for? > > > > Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are > > some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they > > are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a > > limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the > > Vista Explorer replacement. > > > > Useless insults aside, there is a difference in the help systems for the > desktop systems, versus the server systems. 2008 is a good mix, although > it's not unix. So you're saying you get decent docs with 2008 and not with the desktop systems? If not what exactly are you trying to say? > > OS X 10.5, Leopard is certified unix, and still doesn't feel as natural (or > useful) as BSD or Linux does. If you want to know why, let me know. I don't want to know and with all due respect if I wanted to know I wouldn't ask you. > > > > Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some > > documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the > > commands it supports. It doesn't. > > > > manpages aren't an Internet thing. It's not an RFC standard. No shit, Sherlock. Did I say that manpages are an "Internet thing"? > > MS Windows has command line help, you use /? that works for most apps. > > cmd /? So I want to know how the file manager on Vista works. Since I don't even know what it's called, how does your nugget of information help me? > > > > I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use > > to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a > > bonus too. > > > > I see the sense in C:\Users > I see the sense in C:\Documents and Settings > I see the sense in C:\WINDOWS Tell me where the hosts file is? And then tell me how much sense that makes. > I see the sense in using CMD.exe -- after all, the dos box has been around > forever and it wasn't called cmd.exe then. Fail. > > An editor better than Notepad? MS Write. And then MS Office/Word, then > OpenOffice. Somewhere there's Abiwrite. Of all these 5, only one is > commercial software. Those are wordprocessors not editors. None ship with the OS. Fail. > > > > Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. > > > > Nope. That's a personal belief, one that isn't a "must". You're imagining > things on that. No, I'm not. Software without documentation is useless. > > > I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no > > avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member > > of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't > > seem to be readily available. > > > > PowerShell is still "new".. If you want documentation, MS Press makes a > windows 2008 resource kit including a book called 'Windows PowerShell > Scripting Guide' that's over 600 pages. > > Not all resources have to be google-able. Spend a few bucks and buy > something that'll help you... it'll benefit you too. When I bought NT4, I was recommended to buy a book called something like "Windows NT Power Tools" published by Microsoft Press which came with an additional CD of tools amongst other things. That book cost me 65 quid and was the worst documentation I have ever seen. Complete and utter garbage all 2000+ pages of it. MS Press are a bunch of money grabbing charlatans and you are recommending that I do business with them again? You're deluded. > > > > In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like > > wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out > > of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download > > vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate amounts of > > time on google. > > > > Books. Or get something like a Safari Books Online subscription and then > start reading the info online... same books, online. Save a tree. All your recommendations seem to involve spending (wasting) money. Unfortunately, I'm not made of money and don't waste it needlessly when I've got a choice of systems where the software and docs cost me nothing. > > > > The cost and time benefits didn't seem worth it since I'm quite happy > > with FreeBSD and there's only one Windows only application that I use: > > AutoCAD; for that I maintain an XP installation. > > > > > Staying on topic, my advice to the original poster is to dump Windows > > and use FreeBSD - it's better documented and you can either use WINE > > to run your "must have" Windows programs or have a separate Windows > > partition. With a bit of luck your Windows "must haves" will eventually > > have unix replacements. > > > > On-topic? HAH! You went off the deep end. And Wine doesn't work for when > you need NT Services and/or dependencies (such as .NET) -- at least, didn't > for me. And a guy in a nursing home is going to be using that garbage? > > And I am flaming you, personally. I understood lots of this was personal > views and I offered my personal views as well. > > So fan the flame if you want. I've said my peice and now you can ignore me > if you'd like. You are what is known as a retarded troll. Now bugger off and spout off your nonsense elsewhere until you grow up and learn to spell. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 18:35:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8B810656D5 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CF8FC2B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1099625ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=8ONtDeY+djhR8wc/Wom3Yz5eUxZ311vL0eWRfv/2bFE=; b=bLJ81aOma+kdx+YO9m5JWYHHpiHa1KfU2hMDjiN1lNrURNE2gDSkYEhf1WgYs+CqbA CEr0A996qgetg80LXwqKFV+vTmUwO+govpY/ExCu4BofpQYEJ9HOl0EzlA7pkgAiyySt phvL9tT0+Qe7oj7PKTE7/iSqyk2PN6LYZsrY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=CczWBH0J9yJrWB6WrQDAjhfeDdVEA/xxhSaUdhevPSjvyD6PFQUVGrebQT7Tfdb/SB /oPfuLCdrpeLYHnMWkfoqQc7yEh3qo8oZco+PCldDD4VESgqIfTdxw+bzRlhEr6CiB84 5smMKtZIWLg+LOCg1WIremEq0XbCjdqwjst+w= Received: by 10.216.47.204 with SMTP id t54mr946114web.75.1238178923179; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm2640026gve.29.2009.03.27.11.35.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD1C68.2060508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:35:20 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:26 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > >> I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use >> to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a >> bonus too. >> >> > > I see the sense in C:\Users > I see the sense in C:\Documents and Settings > I see the sense in C:\WINDOWS > I see the sense in using CMD.exe -- after all, the dos box has been around > forever > Not trying to start, continue, or add fuel to a flamewar or whatever, but you can expand on how you can make sense of C:\Users and C:\Documents and Settings existing at the same time? Shouldn't Users(the equiv of /home basically) contain therein all Documents and Settings. My idea would be to put settings in logically named hidden files preceded by a '.' ;) The new windows method is as irksome and confusing as the old method. Also FYI, there is no comparison between ping /? and man ping. Man pages offer a completely different level of insight into a command, and it is exponentially more efficient than any windows method to date. Finally trying to run your computer without documentation is like trying to run your car with an owners manual. Ever try to find the fuel cutoff switch on a 1987 Ford EXP? Trust me, it goes a lot faster with the manual and that's why such things are standard--consumers expect it. Also please note I do firmly believe there is a place in this world for windows. That some people would expect a single mother working as a nurse to come home take care of the kids, and be able to make flash 9 work so she can partake in other common activities on the internet, or resolve dependency issues(on the computer) seems more than a bit asinine to me. However the place for windows is not on my desktop except for work which mainly serves as a repository for putty sessions. Even that limited use will hopefully come to an end soon. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 18:59:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC53106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C908FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4109AFF12377; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [95.88.231.222] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LnHGj-0001F9-00; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:59:06 +0100 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RIxC9o004965; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:59:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2RIxCpm004933; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:59:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:59:12 +0100 From: Tobias Rehbein To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20090327185912.GA77908@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Cran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <20090326221128.3a6d648f@gluon.draftnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090326221128.3a6d648f@gluon.draftnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+5Wc3C74l49/xefNUnTXPqAQsBtzGf5J0aLHK0 YH1slW8FKP7os8T6QHq+vOtYGK1W0N2x0kGaUZLABuN/k/vx5A ofGZ2k3GyIZEvvxymYEg== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:59:08 -0000 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:11:28PM +0000 schrieb Bruce Cran: >=20 > sysopen certainly works on FreeBSD: >=20 > > perl > use POSIX; > sysopen(CD,"/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") >=20 > and before I fixed the permissions: >=20 > > perl > use POSIX; > sysopen(CD,"/dev/acd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") > sysopen: Permission denied Hm. Tried this and got ineresting results: > use POSIX; > sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") works fine, but > use POSIX; > sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) > print "$!" prints "No such file or directory" Well, I think I'll have to accept that sysopen works but $! does not... Aft= er all sysopen is more important to me ;) Regards Tobias --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknNIf8ACgkQ6LYxOE8q4xTxbgCeMivgVE0JsYcPBwixqH8xzVMY 2tYAoMOd5RfMpP1zVJThVkH6vc7uICNT =SU+y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 19:09:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D182106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8FB8FC20 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from games-fd ([192.168.2.138]) by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LnHQP-000BlS-1y for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:05 +0000 Message-ID: <49CD2458.7000807@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:12 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> <98C06EFF-E52B-4A5F-B30F-D350BDC6D17E@olivent.com> In-Reply-To: <98C06EFF-E52B-4A5F-B30F-D350BDC6D17E@olivent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Well, you could run an FTP server, OR publish the files using Apache with some authentication, depending on where the files are stored. eGroupware is another application that can allow them to access the files, or even upload other files, IIRC, but that's a bigger monster. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Cc: Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:15 -0000 Well, you could run an FTP server, OR publish the files using Apache with some authentication, depending on where the files are stored. eGroupware is another application that can allow them to access the files, or even upload other files, IIRC, but that's a bigger monster. Can you please explain your setup situation better than you have done already? Are the files stored in ~user? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Hi Odhiambo Yes I could have the files in ~user so I could use apache and userdir with htaccess. But I just wondering if any one had come across any nice web front ends for file management. The down loading bit of course is easy but a nice little upload feature would be handy. Would rather not use ftp as I think the ftp clients would cause confusion. As you say eGroupware would do it as would most groupware's but I dont want the extras that come with them. There are some nice php indexing scripts out there I am sure some will have an upload feature so I will have a look Having just read some of the other replies I think I will look into webdav as it sounds just what I am looking for Thanks Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 19:17:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EC11065670 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186F8FC22 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so846665qwb.7 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yMk+Ejd871E5jiscV2oh1XmtCrDGaklvLhq3HXIwGtg=; b=ftUBxVUToq1LZrA4xwrqAolUloeqy65Vj1BLYZV2mFbcvcMnpfmAGOhqrsyBnS1DXA S2Tf/ed5XDrr1odFEbE6QUTL41NEi4SupfKSbro9Rg7BOlE6xOli+xqxWzAdhXTWENv4 JhpeHCVuHz2LQnA6rXBQa8PGz0TJ2DuFmm9vM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hBQBxADVVDIFPOLaIvdg3Mm+36bJ6bcoyVZeiWlty1Ul/CAk9DQvunEZlkGB9LK3qg 3tjYKiuT+xizCc63TCoMUYvTOnKLf8vL9DbCKXuv6zVp7HjoPVcZr5laaOi+TWMr252h uF+t89h1JpbrR0sb72g1F/1R6A1KIqxsxEsTk= Received: by 10.229.81.66 with SMTP id w2mr1233544qck.12.1238181453474; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.10.2? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm3589331yxk.2.2009.03.27.12.17.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD264B.1000609@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:17:31 -0400 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327182208.GA89638@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090327182208.GA89638@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:17:35 -0000 have any of you flamers stopped to try and help the OP? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 19:35:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537EA10656CC for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCE98FC23 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1100897bwz.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:35:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BRPLSZSV6vPEBQEU/2fEBCMQSR2zjC8XHnSuv96sA6U=; b=dRuxOR8fF7Qh51aPcqGP8zMB71y6necxyPW/DYJY93a61jxvrWDo1opAcW4p0fyCJR co197BcEMKkPcTdYKBFgOlQpyTZ3jo81BnpDEUIU2EhASGN7QxK3MLXSid9q6BVW2GF0 BmxutFF1LvNv9mGPnbGLLYwJo16y5j6l3CcWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mrTJdNPXEuSDAUCBbxCC5Qh88KPYGmF8etm/H1S0gHgmMQl9EJgqS8eCJqJgY4ZZPO iZhWzK3lvWr7IxCGUFv+9Hw03hBOHghmgBZNIldUuQOFwsyhQNIVEcLaGI7mSmQH3Cor CUWR7V6O1kX/tg6z+AZZR4qpNXQxq2BKfmFNo= Received: by 10.223.116.77 with SMTP id l13mr1920907faq.106.1238182545320; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilras.barsh.com ([92.251.20.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2sm1045632fkh.9.2009.03.27.12.35.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD389E.8020004@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:35:42 +0100 From: rasz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manish jain References: <20090327120013.DBDA010656FC@hub.freebsd.org> <49CD13A3.1030806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CD13A3.1030806@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blundered with gnome-desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:35:48 -0000 manish jain wrote: > > Hi all, > > I blundered - I downloaded the latest ports tarball and did a 'make > install' in deskutils/conduit. The conduit port asked for a deinstall > followed by a reinstall in gnome-desktop, which I promptly complied > with. As was bound to happen, everything in gnome is now > broken/paralysed. Being a gnomer, I do not want to abandon my gnome > environment. Just to make sure before attempting recovery, will the > following 2 steps generally be able to fix things for me : > > #1) > pkgdb -aF > > #2) > portupgrade -L /var/gnome2-upgrade-logs/portupgrade-%s::%s.log -l \ > /root/gnome2-portupgrade-results.txt -vrR -x gnome-desktop gnome-desktop > just in case, do you know if your gnome before this was updated to lastest version (2.24.x) ? cuz the above could get messy if you had previous version and only updated gnome-desktop. (there is something in ports/UPDATING) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 19:47:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B243106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98928FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC2B19017; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:47:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:47:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:46:55 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Vincent Hoffman Message-ID: <20090327194655.32d52f27@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <49CCADF7.5040902@unsane.co.uk> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <200903271132.58872.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <49CCADF7.5040902@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Rehbein , Tobias, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:47:04 -0000 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:44:07 +0000 Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 27/3/09 10:32, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:20:45 Tobias Rehbein wrote: > > =20 > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I have a perl script which seems to work fine under Linux but > >> fails on FreeBSD. The Problem is the line: > >> > >> sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) > >> > >> After this line the following evaluates to true: > >> > >> $! eq "No such file or directory." > >> =20 > > > > If you're running this in a jail, then cd0 is hidden by devfs, > > hence the ENOENT. You will need to provide a jail specific ruleset, > > or override devfsrules_jail from /etc/defaults/devfs.rules > > in /etc/devfs.rules so it applies to all jails without modification > > to /etc/rc.conf.=20 > By default for an ATA/ATAPI CDROM, you get an /dev/acd0 not a /dev/cd0 > in FreeBSD. >=20 > [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/cd0 > ls: /dev/cd0: No such file or directory > [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/acd0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 74 Feb 6 12:11 /dev/acd0 > [root@seaurchin ~]# >=20 > To have a /dev/cd0 either use a scsi CDROM or kldload atapicam which > allows ATAPI devices to be accessed via the cam subsytem and will > create a /dev/cd0 node >=20 > [root@seaurchin ~]# kldload atapicam > [root@seaurchin ~]# ls -la /dev/cd0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 113 Feb 6 12:11 /dev/cd0 >=20 > or just change the code to use /dev/acd0 >=20 =46rom the original message: "/dev/cd0 is readable and writable for me. I rebooted multiple times and tried with and without atapicam." So it sounds like the OP is aware of the different device nodes created with and without atapicam, has checked he has permission to access the appropriate device and has come across a problem with perl itself. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 19:48:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73913106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019A18FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1121959ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:48:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jQGzE9tlXOZQxwvVSWveMbvBzRkEP895IxQfHQqUaM8=; b=ELW4UeMnpClQ8CTLsq1V+mLe7AYgY8F2f3AmVts+8wDHEUfQv5PzfeCYLECsJ5VX6v v4dNsYshkVbCsLMhE9NkkqhxI1TnbB1F+P1Nx0T9yDZ350ZX2M4VVp1wNEA0NY24OD53 3N0NIwAfNOVifoyXrECT8InYkHHYQ+LAVnYbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PigFTvOiVR2YS8bBbcRy+7j37656szamjjdf6l51slLECBAmDtxCQZ7NZK6h4XkJU0 /WNH+IvSb/FHqINhGr0Gaa5/iH57kXnQB0+/UqZg/MTNgZYMXL3JUPOZAJeNAOfZJibi py8LZRhz9khXcxAsHY+HUiUd7SxaFFx6Q23Yw= Received: by 10.216.55.207 with SMTP id k57mr958845wec.106.1238181377987; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm2705094gvf.31.2009.03.27.12.16.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD2600.2090907@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:16:16 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:48:59 -0000 Terry wrote: > Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some > files for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know > how to open a browser. > Internally files are shared using samba. > Has any one come across any thing ? > > Cheers > Terry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Horde has a module for this. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 20:00:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B90106566C for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.de) Received: from relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC398FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.de) Received: by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id 3BAF194120; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:47:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id C7B5A940F7; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:47:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id n2RJhpiY015083; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:43:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:43:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:43:50 +0100 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bruce@cran.org.uk Message-ID: <49cd2c76.Y8t5jJg3b3B9bUXn%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2009 19:43:51.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A9EE7E0:01C9AF14] Cc: Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:00:07 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: >cd0 is also what you get if you use atapicam (ATAPI is SCSI over ATA >from what I remember) - for example cdrecord has traditionally used it No, with CAM on FreeBSD /dev/xpt is opened and then the route to the device is extablished via the SCSI address. >when writing CDs. Apparently the OP has the issue both when using >atapicam (/dev/cd0) and the normal ata node /dev/acd0. Cdrecord did this in 1998 and before - a long time ago. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 20:04:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84E1065672 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251D18FC39 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB95FF13252; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [95.88.231.222] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LnIHn-0007TK-00; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:15 +0100 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RK4M56078451; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2RK4MVt078450; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:04:22 +0100 From: Rehbein To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20090327200422.GA69272@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Cran , Vincent Hoffman , Tobias@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <200903271132.58872.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <49CCADF7.5040902@unsane.co.uk> <20090327194655.32d52f27@gluon.draftnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090327194655.32d52f27@gluon.draftnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/8ueToGa9IUE+3rsAc4IShlJirOaZC5JopUkhg ZAyZ/94FMH6wqiLNq6VORuqzvBrdcpoayejRd9gurBFLWaPhzH zQeMg0Q/a6cVD41msNhw== Cc: Tobias@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:04:18 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:46:55PM +0000 schrieb Bruce Cran: >=20 > From the original message: >=20 > "/dev/cd0 is readable and writable for me. I rebooted multiple times and > tried with and without atapicam." >=20 > So it sounds like the OP is aware of the different device nodes created > with and without atapicam, has checked he has permission to access the > appropriate device and has come across a problem with perl itself. You are right. Normally I use atapicam and let devfs hide /dev/acd0. As I have written in another message in this thread sysopen actually works,= it's the $! that causes the problems. Tobias --=20 Tobias Rehbein PGP key: 4F2AE314 server: keys.gnupg.net fingerprint: ECDA F300 1B6E 9B87 8524 8663 E8B6 3138 4F2A E314 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknNMUQACgkQ6LYxOE8q4xSHuACgrH+aOkM/Qt9TfuwXHAWwxlu5 tkQAoJawTa8GDoLtw5f7uSD6L2z4xTpj =aQmW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 20:30:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB70A106564A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7402B8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7239FF13666; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:30:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [95.88.231.222] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LnIh1-0003PA-00; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:30:19 +0100 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RKUQTL050326; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:30:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2RKUQwZ050325; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:30:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:30:26 +0100 From: Tobias Rehbein To: Joost Bekkers Message-ID: <20090327203026.GA50021@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: Joost Bekkers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <20090326221128.3a6d648f@gluon.draftnet> <20090327185912.GA77908@sushi.pseudo.local> <1772.192.168.100.227.1238185193.squirrel@jodocus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1772.192.168.100.227.1238185193.squirrel@jodocus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ZmodGqEqrmv6uhpNORDtocaw+dTqqyVNuRpjX x50wlCYasP9FMIIyqm6cVFsgAiPhap54pPPJvboNWouFTw/orT HmzplaC5FtLvCWo9vnSg== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:21 -0000 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:19:53PM +0100 schrieb Joost Bekkers: > On Fri, March 27, 2009 19:59, Tobias Rehbein wrote: > > Am Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:11:28PM +0000 schrieb Bruce Cran: > >> > > Hm. Tried this and got ineresting results: > > > >> use POSIX; > >> sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") > > works fine, but > >> use POSIX; > >> sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) > >> print "$!" > > prints "No such file or directory" > > > > Well, I think I'll have to accept that sysopen works but $! does not... > > After > > all sysopen is more important to me ;) >=20 > As the perlvar manpage tells us: >=20 > $! If used numerically, yields the current value of the C "errno" > variable, or in other words, if a system or library call fails, > it sets this variable. This means that the value of $! is > meaningful only immediately after a failure. >=20 > The value of $! is NOT an indicator of success or failure. It only tells > you why something failed. If something succeeded $! is usualy left > untouched. Yes, that sounds sensible. Thanks for clarification. --=20 Tobias Rehbein PGP key: 4F2AE314 server: keys.gnupg.net fingerprint: ECDA F300 1B6E 9B87 8524 8663 E8B6 3138 4F2A E314 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknNN2EACgkQ6LYxOE8q4xQpIACfY4yM552TV+wMfHuBcnyppSKU R2QAnjNTR3JU5Zl4QQauGNPwbtBRVGID =V3zI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 20:35:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD16F106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joost@jodocus.org) Received: from viefep16-int.chello.at (viefep16-int.chello.at [62.179.121.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056858FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joost@jodocus.org) Received: from edge04.upc.biz ([192.168.13.239]) by viefep18-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090327202006.IEPW28039.viefep18-int.chello.at@edge04.upc.biz>; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:20:06 +0100 Received: from bps.jodocus.org ([77.248.200.61]) by edge04.upc.biz with edge id YLKt1b0251Kyz9104LKuwQ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:20:06 +0100 X-SourceIP: 77.248.200.61 Received: from jodocus.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bps.jodocus.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2RKJr6c042156; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:19:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from joost@jodocus.org) Received: from 192.168.100.227 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joost) by jodocus.org with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:19:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1772.192.168.100.227.1238185193.squirrel@jodocus.org> In-Reply-To: <20090327185912.GA77908@sushi.pseudo.local> References: <20090326212045.GB3134@sushi.pseudo.local> <20090326221128.3a6d648f@gluon.draftnet> <20090327185912.GA77908@sushi.pseudo.local> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:19:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Joost Bekkers" To: "Tobias Rehbein" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bps.jodocus.org [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:19:53 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [perl] sysopen(CD, "/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK) fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:35:35 -0000 On Fri, March 27, 2009 19:59, Tobias Rehbein wrote: > Am Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:11:28PM +0000 schrieb Bruce Cran: >> > Hm. Tried this and got ineresting results: > >> use POSIX; >> sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) || perror("sysopen") > works fine, but >> use POSIX; >> sysopen(CD,"/dev/cd0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) >> print "$!" > prints "No such file or directory" > > Well, I think I'll have to accept that sysopen works but $! does not... > After > all sysopen is more important to me ;) As the perlvar manpage tells us: $! If used numerically, yields the current value of the C "errno" variable, or in other words, if a system or library call fails, it sets this variable. This means that the value of $! is meaningful only immediately after a failure. The value of $! is NOT an indicator of success or failure. It only tells you why something failed. If something succeeded $! is usualy left untouched. Joost. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 21:03:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC1C106566B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16C78FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1143172ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:03:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lPCqidWbaBvFGf00k69BXjBnlL4vLAKBdf1IG44VTDo=; b=S7B64cCa8F/x1CgDeLss1LmWBYKc2Jh2NrM2z+RtESic5HK7nK/aHISEcQPdbPM6Ul QmIgZSWHM6y0za6Wwa4JCuWHCQMdxWSzVBvIn5/AroRGtvqOzsqk8z+mxHedMzbjwIQH 7mwE+QKy+pbsHTVv44dN/SlNSzFDFef5toQsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=el8yqA5KtodFLUnIBO2EW67uVv0wnyjbTQg+OfpDk7C85TlMat1kiOAHEYlRIyOcky 8QYeYqBhZRTwd4OH49JCPPs8FeDgVNCAkXssQoMx1Fl7fICdTAgq186FdkraUngK3PMA +Mhf5Fe4vrMQWQSivd51XF8bAPLBr4bxLFQGY= Received: by 10.210.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr1910295ebb.65.1238187793051; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm2396773eyg.37.2009.03.27.14.03.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1238187711.71685.14.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with Gmail/Evolution and IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:03:14 -0000 Hello, I'm having a problem with Gmail and IPFW. Gmail is configured in Evolution. When I can't send mail (with attachment), I have to disable IPFW, and at that point I'm able to send mail. After that I enable IPFW ,and try to send the same mail again, i'm still able to send the mail. Only after restart it's again not working. Gmail is configured as I think it should : imap - server imap.gmail.com:993 SSL smtp - server smtp.gmail.com:587 TLS Also Evolution is very slow, seems to hang when I'm typing a message, like not responding for 5 seconds. Should I use another email client? Everything else is running very smoothly. My CPU is a new core to quad 8200, and I recently installed a new motherboard, it should run faster then my mother ;) Any ideas ? Regards, Roy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 21:07:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648701065673 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay02.edpnet.net (lrelay02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D5C8FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.160.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.160.201]) by lrelay02.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2RJU6mF014431; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:06 +0100 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.3; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[< =?utf-8?q?d=0A=09P0?="xTw:F|)_r*WC\f8lz)g=a; 93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd; 6^Y:=*>@U; _\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200903272030.05285.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on lrelay02.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on lrelay02.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: marco.borsatino@poste.it Subject: Re: using ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:07:45 -0000 Op Friday 27 March 2009 18:41:52 marco.borsatino@poste.it schreef: > Hi all. > I'm trying to use ntfs-3g driver on FreeBsd 7.1. > After installing the precompiled package, I try to mount a > NTFS volume. The syntax seems to be quite simple, but I fail. > First attempt: > mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/ > mount: /dev/ad0s3 : Operation not supported by device > > Second attempt: > ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/ > fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory > > The same volume mounted with the standard command: > # mount_ntfs /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista > [root@odino ~]# mount > /dev/ad8s2a on / (ufs, local) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad8s2d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad8s1 on /mnt/win_xp (ntfs, local, read-only) > /dev/ad8s3 on /mnt/dati_xp (ntfs, local, read-only) > /dev/ad0s3 on /mnt/dati_vista (ntfs, local) > > gives me the expected result. > What is my mistake? > Thanks. > Marco Borsatino > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, You added fusefs_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf ? -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 21:54:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CCB1065687 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15AE8FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1156038ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kMzcUTXw6Bld8s0VWN+GQy1VMw5+B2UBRPTdebffou8=; b=gqvMjuzEYSDjdbpwGu/mldNF7kWR3qo4UplXGneaFVvSSuvToL93c67OBI/hSjaUyL usEnZ5hniBJM/1H/upHAcKZG1VutbtkXYGb6pOzVvSRGEVN3x074MdeHC19o55JDsXvU +mvyimDuFHucNoOoVIfUBQWoH28nZQjEvm4Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LtWcA7jwCtS23PsQ/W6/tNgWVO93vebx+dWLScJR2WAdApmN4EARO6houmOcy/fxxy QDvtjnrApHuxMrV2Zz7cH4G1YLKfJz3tCMZbMtlNMGXoWO/0hLqo0oFRnNzLPMqUlJut TLeYZEcDFKynko9QFXccRrd3cGBkbv3DkTRtA= Received: by 10.210.16.11 with SMTP id 11mr1981818ebp.9.1238190872779; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2466126eyz.59.2009.03.27.14.54.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:29 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090327215429.172227e3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1238187711.71685.14.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> References: <1238187711.71685.14.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem with Gmail/Evolution and IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:34 -0000 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:51 +0100 Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having a problem with Gmail and IPFW. > Gmail is configured in Evolution. > > > When I can't send mail (with attachment), I > have to disable IPFW, and at that point I'm able to send mail. This sounds like it could be a path mtu discovery problem; try adding the following: allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 22:19:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB751065742 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E08FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so883614tia.3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eeEwIXfCv9dMXgQpDhMEmh0TElby8JxAL3o1zBtl6Ws=; b=GnMRfRM2wQiuF1Sm5elbxkEc58svkdxO1vzOonArBoto3NzJwTRFFWXk+fzkqr6A9D Vl/LEfY+B7WeSgNhKHGyPcP30elNTPZwvI3TjV1Zi/Q/xNVYRV8N8MmyS/CSpgOkkgrg blybkJrAiBAzY3laq5H9NrIVsPY/k/OrCXDVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WolBNmh5HZCkTbeaJmIKewCgDm//TvieHR7SzPVEqsdWhOOe3d2Z4AJkqN2LKrNAZP T9l/D7xakPaZgZoKugDbfyT3rE2pbUXk/ovHbgBlV/SsL0zUqOnVhAgLK243wVIFUHXz vEBIyZTazn4o4zXyk7XIRW6eK61bobTN6wdz8= Received: by 10.110.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr1312767tiw.19.1238192358867; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([117.196.224.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w12sm2035189tib.0.2009.03.27.15.19.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD5140.2010200@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:50:48 +0530 From: manish jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rasz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090327120013.DBDA010656FC@hub.freebsd.org> <49CD13A3.1030806@gmail.com> <49CD389E.8020004@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CD389E.8020004@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Blundered with gnome-desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:19:22 -0000 rasz wrote: > manish jain wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I blundered - I downloaded the latest ports tarball and did a 'make >> install' in deskutils/conduit. The conduit port asked for a deinstall >> followed by a reinstall in gnome-desktop, which I promptly complied >> with. As was bound to happen, everything in gnome is now >> broken/paralysed. Being a gnomer, I do not want to abandon my gnome >> environment. Just to make sure before attempting recovery, will the >> following 2 steps generally be able to fix things for me : >> >> #1) >> pkgdb -aF >> >> #2) >> portupgrade -L /var/gnome2-upgrade-logs/portupgrade-%s::%s.log -l \ >> /root/gnome2-portupgrade-results.txt -vrR -x gnome-desktop gnome-desktop >> > just in case, do you know if your gnome before this was updated to > lastest version (2.24.x) ? cuz the above could get messy if you had > previous version and only updated gnome-desktop. (there is something in > ports/UPDATING) > No, my gnome was not 2.24. It was 2.22, like almost everything else. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 23:05:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5F510656C3 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mhm@manlief.com) Received: from mixwell.manlief.com (mixwell.manlief.com [69.55.234.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FE88FC22 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mhm@manlief.com) Received: from rei.the-wired.org (pool-173-76-119-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.76.119.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by mixwell.manlief.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2RD3Z0E048612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhm@manlief.com) Message-ID: <49CCCE9F.30607@manlief.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:03:27 -0400 From: Mike Manlief User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Share X instance with VNC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:05:55 -0000 Is it possible to access a normal (connected to vga) Xorg instance from VNC as well? I'd like to remotely access my X desktop at home without having to run multiple sessions. Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 03:06:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3171065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from mail1.etv.net (mail1.etv.net [66.111.113.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F9A8FC15 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from efinley04.etv.net ([74.214.237.51] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by mail1.etv.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LnOs4-000930-6y for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:06:08 -0600 Message-ID: <49CD9420.3010401@efinley.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:06:08 -0600 From: Elliot Finley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: SATA controller not recognized in FBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:06:08 -0000 I've got two of these: SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see all the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't see them in dmesg or /dev. I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to load to get FreeBSD to recognize these? TIA Elliot P.S. I bought these thinking they would work because of this http://www.nabble.com/ZFS-Advice-td18842170.html thread and others that seemed to indicate people were using these with FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 06:21:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9601065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marco.borsatino@poste.it) Received: from relay-pt1.poste.it (relay-pt1.poste.it [62.241.4.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6EE8FC14 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marco.borsatino@poste.it) Received: from poste.it (192.168.44.52) by relay-pt1.poste.it (7.3.122) id 49CD76D800000DBE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:21:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:21:18 +0100 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "marco\.borsatino\@poste\.it" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 5.0(R1) X-SenderIP: 79.16.217.64 Subject: using ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:21:21 -0000 You have suggested the good solution, thank you.=0A=0AMarco Borsatino=0A-= --------- Original Header -----------=0A=0AFrom : "beni" beni@brinck= man.info=0ATo : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ACc : ma= rco.borsatino@poste.it=0ADate : Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:30:04 +0100=0ASu= bject : Re: using ntfs-3g=0A=0AOp Friday 27 March 2009 18:41:52 marco.bor= satino@poste.it schreef:=0A> Hi all.=0A> I'm trying to use ntfs-3g driver= on FreeBsd 7.1.=0A> After installing the precompiled package, I try to m= ount a=0A> NTFS volume. The syntax seems to be quite simple, but I fail.=0A= > First attempt:=0A> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/=0A> mou= nt: /dev/ad0s3 : Operation not supported by device=0A>=0A> Second attempt= :=0A> ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista/=0A> fuse: failed to open fuse d= evice: No such file or directory=0A>=0A> The same volume mounted with the= standard command:=0A> # mount_ntfs /dev/ad0s3 /mnt/dati_vista=0A> [root@= odino ~]# mount=0A> /dev/ad8s2a on / (ufs, local)=0A> devfs on /dev (devf= s, local)=0A> /dev/ad8s2d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)=0A> /dev/ad8= s1 on /mnt/win_xp (ntfs, local, read-only)=0A> /dev/ad8s3 on /mnt/dati_xp= (ntfs, local, read-only)=0A> /dev/ad0s3 on /mnt/dati_vista (ntfs, local)= =0A>=0A> gives me the expected result.=0A> What is my mistake?=0A> Thanks= .=0A> Marco Borsatino=0A>=0A> ___________________________________________= ____=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.free= bsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any m= ail to=0A> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AYou = added fusefs_enable=3D"YES" to your /etc/rc.conf ?=0A-- =0ABeni.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 06:58:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1F31065678 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9578FC2D for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pvr.pobox.com ([72.135.242.46]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090328001748.YMQB23691.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@pvr.pobox.com>; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:17:48 +0000 Received: from mail.nethamilton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pvr.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFFAA2C0E1; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:23:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 10.168.2.101 (SquirrelMail authenticated user hamilton) by mail.nethamilton.net with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:23:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <52810.10.168.2.101.1238199835.squirrel@mail.nethamilton.net> In-Reply-To: <49CCCE9F.30607@manlief.com> References: <49CCCE9F.30607@manlief.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:23:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jon Hamilton" To: "Mike Manlief" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Share X instance with VNC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:58:23 -0000 On Fri, March 27, 2009 08:03, Mike Manlief wrote: > Is it possible to access a normal (connected to vga) Xorg instance from > VNC as well? I'd like to remotely access my X desktop at home without > having to run multiple sessions. Yep. Just set up x11vnc - you can configure it a variety of ways. You may want to look at tunneling it over ssh and/or setting up some of the authorization checks which by default are disabled. It's not necessarily snappy, and depending on the screen size and resolution on both ends, may be a little unwieldy and require some scrolling to get to the entire remote desktop, but it gets the job done. Depending on what you need, it may be sufficient (i.e. some long running thing running on your home machine which you want to check on or which you want to push a button etc) - but it's probably going to be frustrating if you expect to use it interactively for any length of time. Easy enough to set up and try out, though. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 06:59:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C601065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A7C48FC08 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1452 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2009 06:59:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238223546; bh=MFBGcjqRJpNqZtmrtA2e3HnSNn15WygZNGAQHpB0mKs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WtaE01Hsy5On5jtcTi5iCZbMBKlrZSk0St2ptLZhNHFgyp3/KYroMl6sNZSCSEXBt6fqmcikwCoA5qen86LGJJtL04sozdiReE5kaCPJOzhq4NYrzKmcLfFRw8eOZloM1Wk9nNmx36amFztAUg/GgmN6FeNTn95DOpiyESSWp9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5OuXf7m2h4FBtyLTT//fNJNSUzuM+bI+c/Lh8KE4RPAMz24zGhfVGaxt+OCDXubQQHcaRKxM4k8H7CBWho8iI/UKym8b0q+4SJybrQ3Y0edwCQtP3Pp2tJL/TpG4kZViKsvn/3t40KQ2hl0Qot6sDuHuvu+Ub/cmY9SFWkkYTwA=; Message-ID: <969707.426.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pu0XtVEVM1nZP5SeeZeEwzBrrNrNRHuGudC5PYT2aeS.lpFHG6lLgkrkd268cYhiC1nv6HETFVLVu1fm.q3kPRzsGLqNmnWe6xuUPkYtVFlzwhnSXkGnTSl_b.vHuHVuX8YiHsIIoIoDRTvuWVnN3CQkACvlWWC8p3lattx1KV7KhtLB9CERhh8HUeecOw-- Received: from [213.157.180.252] by web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:59:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <5d5f67170903271129w76dd80b8w9a2201d9d3ea4e7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Mario PNH In-Reply-To: <5d5f67170903271129w76dd80b8w9a2201d9d3ea4e7b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freeBSD 6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:59:08 -0000 Hi Mario!=0A=0ADid you installed the right vga driver? Did you make de righ= t xorg.conf for Xserver? Please check this.=0AAnyways, you can send your to= p processes, but I think that the Firefox uses the more from CPU, by the wa= y, what is your load?=0A=0A=0ALaci=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________________= ___=0AFrom: Mario PNH =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ASent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:29:25 PM=0ASubje= ct: freeBSD 6.4=0A=0AHi D=E1nielisz=0A=0AI got this email of you on MAR 13,= and today I got the GNOME running on freeBSD 6.4.=0AI also installed KDE4 = but haven't used it yet.=0A=0AMy main question this time is about the whole= freeBSD. As a matter of fact it is running=0Athe CPU above 50% as I start= GNOME with no more application involved. I am right now=0Aemailing this fr= om GMAIL/google using firefox loaded on GNOME 2.22.3 and the CPU is =0A75%= busy. So it is kind of slow and lagging. I am using this ASUS machine:=0A= =0AAMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+=0AMemory 1 GB=0A=0AWhich when I use windows XP = as OS, does the same with CPU involved just 6%. I am sure=0AfreeBSD should = do this much faster than Windows XP, but I have no idea how to detect what= =0Ais wrong. I can also send the list of processes running on this 6.4 whic= h i guess most of them are=0Anormal. and the only application open is firef= ox connected to GMAIL . Any idea what should I check?=0A=0AI like to have a= UNIX like OP. System to work on my JAVA programs. That I was doing with WI= N-XP=0Aso far. And I have WIN2003 also on another ASUS Core i7 machine. I w= ant to know if the performance =0Aof freeBSD is very hardware related, then= what type of motherboard / chip / CPU ..etc is recommended? =0AI used to = work with UNIX on SUN machines while at university, and I expect freeBSD to= function almost =0Athe same, and even better these days concerning the tim= e and new technologies but I am missing some =0Ainfo to get it done. =0ATha= nks=0AMario=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:04 AM, D=E1nielisz L= =E1szl=F3 wrote:=0A=0AYou are welcome!=0ADon't= forget to upgrade your ports, I think after this it will work, if not than= try pkg_add but first read the manual.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________= ________=0AFrom: Mario PNH =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl= =F3 =0ASent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:07:56 PM= =0ASubject: Re: Ports Collection=0A=0A=0AThanks for your response.=0A=0AFre= eBSD versions of 7.0 and 7.1 could never be booted on my computer,=0Aand it= kept restarting with a short note of "inflate" on the screen. =0ABut 6.4 i= s running excellent, except for the gnome2 installation.=0AI didn't update = my ports, but I will, and I think I need to go though=0Agnome installation = instruction again.=0A=0AWhile installing gnome2, for near 2 hours, it final= ly went into a loop=0Acycle of loading and repeating things, I can't rememb= er exactly what =0Abut I am going to watch it closely as I redo it over nex= t week=0A=0AI am trying 6.4 on my 5 yr old ASUS A7N266-VM, which still runs= great=0Awith nVidia 220 North Bridge Chipset - CPU AMD Athlon(TM)2000+.=0A= 6.4 recognizes all components as I went through log files. This is a =0Ates= t for me, to learn about freeBSD. Once I am familiar with how it=0Afunction= s, I try it on my new ASUS P6T Deluxe - Intel X58 (core i7). =0AHowever, wi= th the fact that I may face drivers issue for this one, yet =0AI am going t= o add new hard drive to test 7.1 on the P6T soon, as I get =0Ajust a bit fr= ee time after MAR 21. I appreciate your response and I will =0Aprovide more= info later on.=0A=0AThanks,=0AMario=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:06 A= M, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote:=0A=0ADear Mar= io Palmer,=0A=0ADid you tried to install the latest FreeBSD version instead= of 6.4?=0ADid you updated your ports tree before running the make command = (eg. with cvsup)?=0AYou can also try installing gnome2 via pkg_add -r [-v]= =0A=0A=0ALaci=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Mario PN= H =0ATo: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org=0ASent: Wednesda= y, March 11, 2009 10:01:41 PM=0ASubject: Ports Collection=0A=0A=0AI really = liked the FreeBSD running on my ASUS desktop,=0Auntil I tried to install gn= ome2 and I was surprised that=0Ait never finished it, during which it creat= ed some 20 and=0Amore user groups like 'nobody', 'anonymous', 'aiviah', 'ga= mes', etc ...=0Aand I am wondering if that was a normal process.=0A=0A# cd = /usr/ports/x11/gnome2=0A# make install clean=0A=0AI have burned the DVD of = 6.4 version lately and I don't=0Aknow if that's all I needed to install gno= me2 instead of=0Ausing Ports Collection.=0A=0AThanks,=0AMario Palmer=0A____= ___________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org= mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions= =0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org"=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 10:29:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14D61065752 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp234-119.static.internode.on.net [203.122.234.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F778FC1B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LnV7c-000J3w-JN; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:16:42 +1030 Message-ID: <49CDF1E7.6040607@awdcomp.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:16:15 +1030 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elliot Finley , questions@freebsd.org References: <49CD9420.3010401@efinley.com> In-Reply-To: <49CD9420.3010401@efinley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "gateway.abdulla", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Eliiot, Elliot Finley wrote: > I've got two of these: > > SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 > > each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see all > the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't see > them in dmesg or /dev. > > I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to load > to get FreeBSD to recognize these? > [...] Content analysis details: (-1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.2 WHOIS_MYPRIVREG URL registered to myprivateregistration.com [URIs: nabble.com] X-Spam-Score: -12 (-) Cc: Subject: Re: SATA controller not recognized in FBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:29:12 -0000 Hi Eliiot, Elliot Finley wrote: > I've got two of these: > > SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 > > each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see all > the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't see > them in dmesg or /dev. > > I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to load > to get FreeBSD to recognize these? > nope, though according to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/120842 you need to disable the hptrr driver in the GENERIC kernel. HTH cya Andrew > TIA > Elliot > > P.S. I bought these thinking they would work because of this > http://www.nabble.com/ZFS-Advice-td18842170.html thread and others that > seemed to indicate people were using these with FreeBSD. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 11:30:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B240106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4816D8FC18 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1B87E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:30:52 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:30:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49CBDA39.10409@eecs.harvard.edu> <458C5AD3-A517-4253-A866-40685A2FC338@mac.com> <49CBEA9C.3040502@eecs.harvard.edu> In-Reply-To: <49CBEA9C.3040502@eecs.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281230.26513.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Ian Rose Subject: Re: most signals not being delivered to processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:30:53 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 21:50:36 Ian Rose wrote: > However, hopefully the problem has gone away. Another member of our > team thinks that somehow the issue is related to some system services > (sshd and dhcpd) failing to completely detach from their controlling > terminal due to a setuid wrapper he set up, and thus they "are left > holding on to some old bad controlling terminal even though they > daemonize themselves". As a hint to your team member, daemon(8) program allows one to switch user before daemonizing and detaches properly when asked to. If he wishes to implement this in C himself, visit the setusercontext(3) manpage, which does the setuid() and login class limits automagically. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 11:37:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B2B1065691 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2E08FC2B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE367E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:37:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:37:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <792298050903261237o4d57a47dpb99861279ee9b4f6@mail.gmail.com> <792298050903261238y47cd2c01j6f645ad27d59dd84@mail.gmail.com> <792298050903261346m67896d1eo75694509494ff5f8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <792298050903261346m67896d1eo75694509494ff5f8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281237.19203.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: L Campbell Subject: Re: [pkg_add] PACKAGESITE weirdness - URL not correct for dependencies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:37:22 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 21:46:07 L Campbell wrote: > Okay, so apparently there's some serious weirdness in the logic in > src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/url.c, in fileGetURL. This function takes > two parameters, base and spec, and has the following behavior -- Yes, it is a bit counter-intuitive. However it's documented in the pkg_add(1) manpage that PACKAGESITE should resolve to the full URL where packages can be found (even the trailing slash). I've found in practice, that it is the easiest to set your webroot below All/, so that All/foo-1.2.3.tbz resolves to the foo 1.2.3 package. Then also maintain the various categories links like devel/foo.tbz and as human use pkg_add like so: pkg_add -r devel/foo This will do the right thing(tm) and you don't have to look up/remember the version numbers as a bonus. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 11:52:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78041065686 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4C8FC0A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C0E7E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:52:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:52:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281252.05083.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Barnaby Scott , Paul Schmehl Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:08 -0000 On Friday 27 March 2009 15:42:27 Barnaby Scott wrote: > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I can find no > answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible for one reason or > another, place to download application source to? Most systems I use or inherited use a variation of ~/src ~/cvs or ~/svn, where src are the tarballs + their extracted source and cvs/svn checkouts and/or exports. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 12:06:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A17106567D for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C3A8FC0A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2009 08:06:46 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PQG01624; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18894.4820.862743.914129@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:06:44 -0400 To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200903281252.05083.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> <200903281252.05083.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Barnaby Scott , Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:06:48 -0000 Mel Flynn writes: > > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I > > can find no answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible > > for one reason oranother, place to download application source to? > > Most systems I use or inherited use a variation of ~/src ~/cvs or > ~/svn, where src are the tarballs + their extracted source and > cvs/svn checkouts and/or exports. I have never done this, but if I were running a private ports tree I would be tempted to root it (if not on a separate partition) at "/usr/priv_ports" or something similar and have the structure minic /usr/ports whereever possible. The name would then be semi-intuitive, and a simple change of a few environment variables (perhaps in the login file of an account dedicated to working on those ports) would be all it took to change the framework. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 12:07:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409A5106566B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39638FC0A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5BC7E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:07:18 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:07:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <20090326062038.GA40288@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20090326131048.58cf37ad@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090326131048.58cf37ad@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281307.17099.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: RW Subject: Re: WINE installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:07:20 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 14:10:48 RW wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:20:38 +0100 > > "Alain G. Fabry" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My WINE was running fine, but while performing a portupgrade I got an > > error message. So I decided to remove WINE and reinstall. Now I can't > > install it either. > > If you ever do that again, make a package first. Using: mkdir ~/packages pkg_create -vb packagename-1.2.3 ~/packages/packagename-1.2.3.tbz -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 12:19:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4741065672 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [195.74.52.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B608FC1A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9694B16FC3; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:19:02 +0200 From: Ghirai To: Olivier Nicole Message-Id: <20090328141902.22cae488.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903270205.n2R254v0003403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:19:05 -0000 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:05:04 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to show a list of all installed packages that are not > required by any other package? > > Some thing like "pkg_info -aR" where the Required by: field is empty. > > Ultimately, that would give a list of "software" versus "libraries". > > The question arise because, while installing a new machine, I found > out that I have help2man installed, that is not required by any other > package, that I did not install myself, that looks unneeded to me > (until I may need it one day). So I would remove it; and would like to > make a list of what is removable (that I did not install, and that is > not required). > > TIA, > > Olivier I use pkg_rmleaves. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 12:39:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A030106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E56538FC08 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 44600 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 12:39:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RYpWHYDLUHa5mWfT/eB68rROB2aXItFvcAsqh1DC6JwxbYZgw//lLZfDcX9/IKD35QT5Ixh1pSVj7HMyxIXa0Ji+R8S8Oc64B7szWhPQ3uFdEHPHCboEG/f7QG34XlgQ4iExlbyydJWVk6bl0Of38GY4tnFlcfpHw5UwAnoVkbA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2009 12:39:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QyDxvTcVM1n7I46LyH9nnO4hDqnp18WKgty7kkdkDhV8nASe4xOK4zakK_YwBga9gpkwWbFyeRZXjmlImbvZ3PkvVWJ2QUOFfh9X8yl3VpIqr1oomaatrEuuS2CookcC.rdhSWlF6DRQrP5sOEFA05F5GlwMaaoVLpvT6HmiyEy2yAcQjO46bYquJECeJc1b9cYc5ylZQHEoEyLwnD_W9WXhKfxrshU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:39:32 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/hj5y2wknKjVREOOBMKX9/mM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:39:49 -0000 --Sig_/hj5y2wknKjVREOOBMKX9/mM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 >> Frank Shute wrote: >>=20 >> >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> >> >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a >> >> >couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop >> >> >and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the >> >> >developers have done an excellent job >> >>=20 >> >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. A system can never be over powered. >> >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got >> >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and >> >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. >>=20 >> Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google >> for the information.=20 > >Four of what? Virtual desktops. What are you referring to? Visit the power toys URL for further information. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx >Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the >info locally? Not necessarily. Many people don't want to clutter up their system with documentation that they will never use. I certainly don't. If I actually need an obscure bit of information, I can always obtain it. >I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install >cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and >undocumented. In your opinion. I never have a problem finding what I am looking for. >> MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around.=20 > >Are you being sarcastic? > >Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? Are you being sarcastic? >You can read the source can you? I can't. If you are referring to the source code; well that is obvious. If something else, then what? People get paid to develop the software. If they gave it away, they would not make a living, the unemployment lines would swell, and crime would increase. Now, if you don't believe in a capitalistic system of free enterprise, please come over and paint my house this weekend. I promise not to insult you by offering to pay you. >Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be >scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're >looking for at all. Yes, it is fragmented. The simple fact that there is so much information is the cause, not the problem. >> What is it you are looking for? > >Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are >some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they >are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a >limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the >Vista Explorer replacement. > >Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some >documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the >commands it supports. It doesn't. Did you actually install the 'Power Shell?' I assume that is what you are talking about. Read the 'Getting Started" pages. I just installed it and there is a wealth of information there. Certainly enough to get started with. BTW, many people consider 'man' to be an acronym for "Much About Nothing". Therein lies the reason that O'Reilly has make a fortune distributing 'How-To' books. >I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use >to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a >bonus too. Wrong, you are looking for a specific OS that is tailored to your very specific specification. Everyone does not (thank GOD) have the same criteria. If it suits you, then great. If not, find one that does. Bitching like an old wash woman accomplishes nothing. >Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. Then install it. Everyone does not want massive amounts of useless clutter. >I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no >avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member >of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't >seem to be readily available. Obviously, you have not installed the shell. Besides the info included with the program, you might want to check out the following URL. It should answer most of your immediate questions. I also question you 'search' ability. I don't seem to be having any problem finding gratuitous amounts of documentation. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926139 >In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like >wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out >of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download >vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate amounts of >time on google.=20 Yes, it is commonly referred to as a 'learning curve' Personally, anyone who cannot handle a Win32 machine has serous problems. Six year old kids gleefully manipulate a PC without problems. I know several 7 & 8 year old kids running MS Office without any difficulty at all. It all depends on how motivated you are. Conversely, I know many individuals who just plain gave up tying to run a *.nix system because they could not get a device to work, or locate a driver, or find a support mechanism that was suitable for them purposes. Things like FLASH have always been problematic on FreeBSD. >The cost and time benefits didn't seem worth it since I'm quite happy >with FreeBSD and there's only one Windows only application that I use: >AutoCAD; for that I maintain an XP installation. If you are happy with something, then why bitch. You sound like an old lady. In any case, you are comparing apples to oranges. Windows and *.nix are two different systems that take vastly different approaches to the same problem. Windows attempts to be usable by the largest number of users without a long, arduous learning curve. For the most part, they have succeeded. I have yet to see a seven year old install a *.nix system from scratch, install the applications he wants and have it up and running without outside assistance. The bottom line is something I saved from a posting I noticed a while back comparing *.nix with MS Windows: Here is a great example. FreeBSD 6 has a terrible implementation of the SMB TCP stack that produces the WORST gb NIC performance on SMB/CIFS sharing of any platform available. But you don't see a dozen threads basking in the glory that Win32 (or Linux) outperforms FreeBSD 6 in this capacity. You see people looking for answers. If Microsoft develops a flawed protocol, stack, or subsystem, the Linux guys are all over it like an angry mob ready for a lynching. >Staying on topic, my advice to the original poster is to dump Windows >and use FreeBSD - it's better documented and you can either use WINE >to run your "must have" Windows programs or have a separate Windows >partition. With a bit of luck your Windows "must haves" will eventually >have unix replacements. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the organization. --Sig_/hj5y2wknKjVREOOBMKX9/mM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknOGo4ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO2rUwCgl7YzjCEcNQkal7BK5850Duts BnUAn0FZlYxtrgCR3KDhMaw4TVud8oM5 =CAgm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hj5y2wknKjVREOOBMKX9/mM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 13:18:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D210D106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holmstrom.anders@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8238FC1E for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holmstrom.anders@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1295424fxm.43 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kibZv6kqcWNH9alXkDpFJGgEgx77CYoMEnkA/WKaid8=; b=hrI2eV36qLUIsdCjYkiclja8liFHimN+pA1wN5gbClHMZ0jRRoxEVppxBCbock5AYp 6BFgUEMyxkfiSzi2uRvYRqLecAZi52VYXv/QrYj9YgE1CUZls8APRl/90r8q/1hP6QHe 1JoD/mfcU5NycTik1ByexEXTqL+uY9zQ/yHm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QK9alMQJJYI3P8Ws8v9HgrCbQvTfoacInQea75LLsaYW8B1Wi5bwjMR0bqyzhUfoWc UduNp8/sf4SIPk+yau/YFPQLEPxPlBdFvDO0V4KAQxS/4TwqdzR+QHr666zm1TBU0WqM S+5e9TbcT0OGxwV1S87Mk0i4QdUbsaXyA+r64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.63.209 with SMTP id c17mr1113060bki.47.1238244823680; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:53:43 +0100 Message-ID: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Holmstr=F6m?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nvidia-drivers crash computer on X start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:18:44 -0000 I'm having something of a problem. X.org will not start whenever I load the drivers installed from the latest nvidia-drivers port. The error also happens with the older versions of said drivers. The error doesn't occur with the normal "nv" drivers. What happens: 1) $ startx 2) The normal startup stuff flickers by on screen. I'm not sure exactly what it says as the screen goes black to load up X in less than a second (it always does this). 3) It then switches display mode or something like that. It goes from proper "this screen is currently not showing anything at all"-black to "this screen is on and is rendering black pixels"-black. It might sound strange but I can't describe it any better. The black gets a different hue which isn't displayed when I start X with the default nv drivers. Not sure if this is relevant or not. 4) Everything just locks up. The "new black" stays. I can't switch to another terminal with CTRL+ALT+F#, I can't CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE nor CTRL+ALT+DELETE. I was playing music with the CLI player "herrie" once and it repeated the same millisecond of sound over and over and over. A proper lock-up. 5) I hit the reboot button. There's no log produced in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when this happens, nor can I find anything in the messages log. The only relevant log I have is the one created when I run "X -configure", which lists no errors. This is the log: ########### X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD sino.plas.se 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 27 March 2009 01:00:57AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Mar 28 09:46:07 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x81bcde0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GTS 512 rev 162, Mem @ 0xfd000000/0, 0xd0000000/0, 0xfa000000/0, I/O @ 0x0000bc00/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072 List of video drivers: nvidia (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 180.29 Tue Feb 3 10:12:46 PST 2009 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (++) Using config file: "/home/lillis/xorg.conf.new" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) Including the default font path /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "wfb" (II) LoadModule: "wfb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] Xorg detected your mouse at device /dev/sysmouse. Please check your config if the mouse is still not operational, as by default Xorg tries to autodetect the protocol. Your xorg.conf file is /home/lillis/xorg.conf.new To test the server, run 'X -config /home/lillis/xorg.conf.new' ########### The current xorg.conf I'm using is listed below. It was generated with X -configure. I've used many different xorg.confs, but they've all more or less been using the same settings as below, except when I tried NvAGP which didn't seem to work either (unless I was missing something). ########### Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "xtrap" Load "dri" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 8800 GTS 512" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ########### In dmesg.boot this is displayed: ########### nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] nvidia0: [ITHREAD] ########### I have tried reinstalling xorg-server and nvidia-driver many times. I've also had the same problem on a completely different FreeBSD install on the same computer, before a broken HDD forced me to reinstall completely. It was the same BSD version. I've made sure that the driver is actually loaded with kldstat, and have not used "kldload nvidia" as it's said that it's best to put an entry in /boot/loader.conf and restart instead. /dev/nvidia0 and /dev/nvidiactl show up after the drivers are installed and the computer rebooted. I've tried disabling FreeBSD AGP and using NvAGP instead, but the exact same thing happens. My card is a GeForce 8800 GTS 512 MB, and is supported by the drivers. This is my uname-a output: FreeBSD sino.xxxxxx.xx 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 This is the first time I'm posting a question to the mailing lists, so if I've done someting wrong or forgotten to include any important info, feel free to tell me so. Thanks for taking the time to read all this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 13:54:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F44106566B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17198FC26 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1312535ewy.43 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=thairdTGZtvW5VUKs/K892m82mpistz+iOv6O0zio5c=; b=TrJf2a6sc66apGi7UzMMDRjXOKIb5hgHnRbmNnfeNCKol1/5KyvA9nqJMn2f3h/OE1 IinYtiFXk2qQ6KQU09KRZgC07jqyE9jl3N/TvZ9VOq2+BAPQJkHLsLYculgqXCTbQO7n BDcyPpFrpzD3sTYqBalfqVkBV0ez0YhLaasCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vwlHbHgkH7ahIbST/1BZ/1+uGFEzN2EQ7pNRCW+i2v6zD3uvKsije+sgrlr1DFWk9/ MmVloRoa7L9aNhFQEhAFjIlIPk6NzBXc2qpKXCD1Zl3zpwUDVLNz30/99TMb4XVyCQML qG8be0MAS1AGzl6NWClbeK+z856ENWMqyFGvQ= Received: by 10.211.194.4 with SMTP id w4mr2494823ebp.99.1238248491629; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm3179663eyf.12.2009.03.28.06.54.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:48 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090328135448.675cfabb@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: nvidia-drivers crash computer on X start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:53 -0000 On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:53:43 +0100 Anders Holmstr=F6m wrote: > The current xorg.conf I'm using is listed below. It was generated with > X -configure. I've used many different xorg.confs, but they've all > more or less been using the same settings as below, I don't know if it will help, but the nvidia driver has its own utility for generating xorg.conf: x11/nvidia-xconfig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 13:56:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC769106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wubingzheng@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1618FC14 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wubingzheng@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1006205qwb.7 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:56:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R7VHDVfZILLTmvkWD/hYEY98+TrOaEODCAE685FE+u4=; b=p0DF0/mQqB69kHCiz3qDczx1Y1Ry8w7FTFvR6Lzegwjcta1pmRwXuEmNFIaWL6S5wE gTpVs6Q6c7tBYPSZCIoi49GdtRJj5r9Vjbo5MmB4ZEHqOSWfBY6/wY0nkzLOjb0gih0S 6fpdygoCaoICv4DUfVl3dqmf9n8I580XwHZLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=eiKG7tLk0RfVAJII8wCddSxJs8C6jo8/O7p8jz+ixHmoZdirmUiSFQHKnw02WRUhTE pD25xOIomDex+Mb+By2C46OKsyM2mee1dePcJcDI+yCggsUbpJ2niySeREOYpPrWl6vw ezOSXFvG9/FZ1qLyWY2goZTJA1JIE9QbCp0X8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.6 with SMTP id s6mr4067900qaj.327.1238247099214; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:31:39 +0800 Message-ID: <1bb9b1030903280631x456e52c4qa6e7f16bc57a6dc5@mail.gmail.com> From: Bingzheng Wu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: About boot from GPT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:56:06 -0000 Hi men, FreeBSD 7.1 supports booting from GPT partitions. I want to know more about it. Without GPT, MBR reads the Disk Partition Table(DPT), and read the first sector of the boot partition. If map the bootable GPT-partition in to DPT in MBR, then the boot code in MBR reads this partition, just like it's a normal partition. What else need to do to support booting from GPT partition? Thanks, Wu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 14:20:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5871065675 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E888FC19 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1307532fxm.43 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+r0Tk5HEVIOQVTZ180GNXm1MawDH9gKLbERfeF5rcMA=; b=a/v5ElrmKKH8HLExtTp5B3vmguZAUiwGaL1UNCKf8b6xyiQj3isLkH1cXGgag7cUF4 QbGPjymwsW+tq54YpGFnTddaRP9SqVjAF4o0WSNH2v49zMrapsJZIrOlY+UoiR7w5EDZ xKWZ9yZjp4qpm8BCiZnr2RIWpv2EOLdggGQVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W+iXSh1wSFNJJPtkjjmHbl9JFVinb0mweRx8fBvRpwif4M26oO/2MCg+NNvaNR/wX7 tSr/gvf59v6QBu8O7A5MgLMjoUHPWp3KEnZNNMMN0J3ZbZDtysFuoSSppJKFlqM6g4kM QE5/Qig+DaaBnYWvy0QM/WOrQygK5mxdMt2nQ= Received: by 10.223.104.74 with SMTP id n10mr2536207fao.5.1238250016274; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilras.barsh.com ([92.251.20.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g28sm1459222fkg.18.2009.03.28.07.20.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CE402D.2050701@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:20:13 +0100 From: rasz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> <20090328135448.675cfabb@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090328135448.675cfabb@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-drivers crash computer on X start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:20:18 -0000 RW wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:53:43 +0100 > Anders Holmström wrote: > > >> The current xorg.conf I'm using is listed below. It was generated with >> X -configure. I've used many different xorg.confs, but they've all >> more or less been using the same settings as below, >> > > I don't know if it will help, but the nvidia driver has its own utility > for generating xorg.conf: > > x11/nvidia-xconfig > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > did you try Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in Serverlayout section under screen, keyboard, mouse? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 15:35:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B941065703 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434598FC1A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so285728eyf.7 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:35:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bq4R35AHb7nBBwdDY/bKF8fKawDd6873sdVrgqW/+B4=; b=Wjk+NZ73JfdYYBF4MTExXhHyM++Mk9Y/4Y6ZmJ8OWeShYNIr1QVonbsPoEekR6AtOY CjGT6VXfujh6mO3WZ7zBirQez5rPYtGP9MhnhdHwoAAmft0cUzoQIWpvh0KSnDXqVO+A z+A4X0plTYJsmoSyo5pqMj4jTO3mrmvx2AwkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=mDeDEitl0lqTBIIFu9oDJ86OHP0hGePdf4u86oZQtCicxPNAk7iMmyDPovXdyoG+hm DnGQpU1HAxjGoAWq1twMFiNCjJYXmyiszXZm4/h3G88g6rEzza2C6rLfXo0Xk+7ZkFxC PybnGJQkLBi1KA4CCpmUkmcpvo7MqUKbuteRQ= Received: by 10.210.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr2592490ebd.32.1238254511188; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm3206861eyx.38.2009.03.28.08.35.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:35:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090328120019.6855A10656CE@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20090328120019.6855A10656CE@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:33:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1238254430.1086.5.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 252, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:35:13 -0000 Hello :) Thank you very much! I added the line in ipfw script, loaded the script, and was able to send the email with attachment. Then tried again without the line > $cmd 00151 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 (after reboot) and it didn't send the email. So including the line did the trick .. Thanks & Bravo! Regards, Roy. On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 12:00 +0000, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:29 +0000 > From: RW > Subject: Re: Problem with Gmail/Evolution and IPFW > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20090327215429.172227e3@gumby.homeunix.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:51 +0100 > Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm having a problem with Gmail and IPFW. > > Gmail is configured in Evolution. > > > > > > When I can't send mail (with attachment), I > > have to disable IPFW, and at that point I'm able to send mail. > > This sounds like it could be a path mtu discovery problem; try adding > the following: > > allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 15:50:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493CB106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05588FC18 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnanD-0000ma-Mw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:55 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2SFnrG5012922 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:53 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 15CA8FCA699; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:48 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:50:00 -0000 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:39:32AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 +0000 > Frank Shute wrote: > > >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 +0000 > >> Frank Shute wrote: > >> > >> >On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a > >> >> >couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop > >> >> >and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the > >> >> >developers have done an excellent job > >> >> > >> >> of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. > > A system can never be over powered. > > >> >No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got > >> >things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and > >> >purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. > >> > >> Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google > >> for the information. > > > >Four of what? > > Virtual desktops. What are you referring to? Visit the power toys URL > for further information. > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx Thanks for that. Did they use to be called PowerTools? I downloaded them a few years ago but it didn't come with virtual desktops. > > >Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the > >info locally? > > Not necessarily. Many people don't want to clutter up their system with > documentation that they will never use. I certainly don't. If I > actually need an obscure bit of information, I can always obtain it. And when your 'net connection is down, then you can obtain it? I maintain the Handbook locally. It's no effort and can save my bacon for whenever I don't have 'net access. > > >I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install > >cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and > >undocumented. > > In your opinion. I never have a problem finding what I am looking for. > > >> MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. > > > >Are you being sarcastic? > > > >Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? > > Are you being sarcastic? No. > > >You can read the source can you? I can't. > > If you are referring to the source code; well that is obvious. If > something else, then what? People get paid to develop the software. If > they gave it away, they would not make a living, the unemployment lines > would swell, and crime would increase. Now, if you don't believe in a > capitalistic system of free enterprise, please come over and paint my > house this weekend. I promise not to insult you by offering to pay you. You've fallen hook, line & sinker for the broken windows fallacy. I support free software with a subscription to TUG. It's not my job to keep software developers in employment though. > > >Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be > >scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're > >looking for at all. > > Yes, it is fragmented. The simple fact that there is so much information > is the cause, not the problem. It maybe the cause but it's also a problem. There should be one page on microsoft.com for each of their OSes where one can start looking for info. For instance, I did a search for "cmd.exe commands" on Google and it didn't return a useful page from microsoft.com on the first page. That's weak. What's even weaker is that cmd.exe isn't described in any of the local documentation on Vista/XP. > > >> What is it you are looking for? > > > >Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are > >some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they > >are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a > >limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the > >Vista Explorer replacement. > > > >Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some > >documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the > >commands it supports. It doesn't. > > Did you actually install the 'Power Shell?' I assume that is what you > are talking about. Read the 'Getting Started" pages. I just installed > it and there is a wealth of information there. Certainly enough to get > started with. I was talking about cmd.exe. That's the shell on Windows isn't it? I thought Powershell shipped with my version of Vista (business) but I guess I was wrong. > > BTW, many people consider 'man' to be an acronym for "Much About > Nothing". Therein lies the reason that O'Reilly has make a fortune > distributing 'How-To' books. I own a shelf full of O'Reilly books. If I get my softs for free, I don't mind paying for extra documentation. When I pay for software, I expect it to be thoroughly documented (à la AutoCAD with a big thick manual). > > >I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use > >to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a > >bonus too. > > Wrong, you are looking for a specific OS that is tailored to your very > specific specification. Everyone does not (thank GOD) have the same > criteria. If it suits you, then great. If not, find one that does. > Bitching like an old wash woman accomplishes nothing. I told you what constitutes my idea of some of the things that a proper OS consists of. Contrary to your assertion, that does not constitute "bitching like an old wash woman" you clod. FYI, I've found an OS that works for me. > > >Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. > > Then install it. Everyone does not want massive amounts of useless > clutter. That's your problem. You see documentation as clutter, I see it as essential. > > >I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no > >avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member > >of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't > >seem to be readily available. > > Obviously, you have not installed the shell. Besides the info included > with the program, you might want to check out the following URL. It > should answer most of your immediate questions. I also question you > 'search' ability. I don't seem to be having any problem finding > gratuitous amounts of documentation. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926139 User guide in rtf and docs in txt. Laughable. They've obviously put so much effort into documenting it > > >In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like > >wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out > >of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download > >vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate amounts of > >time on google. > > Yes, it is commonly referred to as a 'learning curve' Personally, > anyone who cannot handle a Win32 machine has serous problems. Six year > old kids gleefully manipulate a PC without problems. I know several 7 & > 8 year old kids running MS Office without any difficulty at all. It all > depends on how motivated you are. Can they manipulate their files & dirs with the Vista file manager? Nobody's pointed out docs for the aforesaid file manager yet. > > Conversely, I know many individuals who just plain gave up tying to run > a *.nix system because they could not get a device to work, or locate a > driver, or find a support mechanism that was suitable for them > purposes. Things like FLASH have always been problematic on FreeBSD. > > >The cost and time benefits didn't seem worth it since I'm quite happy > >with FreeBSD and there's only one Windows only application that I use: > >AutoCAD; for that I maintain an XP installation. > > If you are happy with something, then why bitch. You sound like an old > lady. That's the second time you've accused me of bitching like an old woman. Top tip: If you can't write without throwing in ad hominems don't write at all. Now run along and play with Windows since it's the "best documented" OS in the world. Have fun & spend lots of money to keep those poor developers employed & stop the capitalist system from falling down! -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 16:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9DF106566C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728DA8FC0C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10D27E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:18:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:03:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <200903281252.05083.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <18894.4820.862743.914129@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18894.4820.862743.914129@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281703.38540.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Barnaby Scott , Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff Subject: Software installasion (Was: Re: Wine without X) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:18:09 -0000 On Saturday 28 March 2009 13:06:44 Robert Huff wrote: > Mel Flynn writes: > > > Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I > > > can find no answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible > > > for one reason oranother, place to download application source to? > > > > Most systems I use or inherited use a variation of ~/src ~/cvs or > > ~/svn, where src are the tarballs + their extracted source and > > cvs/svn checkouts and/or exports. > > I have never done this, but if I were running a private ports > tree I would be tempted to root it (if not on a separate partition) > at "/usr/priv_ports" or something similar and have the structure > minic /usr/ports whereever possible. The name would then be > semi-intuitive, and a simple change of a few environment variables > (perhaps in the login file of an account dedicated to working on > those ports) would be all it took to change the framework. A private portstree (as in: uses the ports framework for compiling and installing software, including registering the port in /var/db/pkg) is best kept in /usr/ports/local. One needs to set VALID_CATEGORIES=local in /etc/make.conf and optionally add SUBDIR+=local in /usr/ports/Makefile.local if one cares about the ports ending up in the INDEX and make search. Ideally software not registering itself inside /var/db/pkg (as in software compiled by hand) should NOT be installed in $LOCALBASE (/usr/local by default) as there is no guarantee through the ports CONFLICTS mechanism, that a port overwrites files installed by your hand-compiled software. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 16:35:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D111065676 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F41E8FC1D for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1313208bwz.43 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tjh2h8xyLH9+SzKtZnp095mn5OcJA3K1JFIEvsbZ7/Q=; b=Kj6Sg0fLJsczYcXUn80gEbmiZ8pjkf0uUAmBB/ZSfGtLlumqwj6lxbYTcEcufBXOxQ l345f00UcRlxhygmA1hsfz0gB3LZlXEW8hztPhMXkdEwSbmYiqXMdu3a1foWl0ZEAVBQ 2Vr6kXxVLMq+1ENawEl2COZJQMr2oEh3ygprU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gptzWP1GdPCznaekidUXd403IO2c2PlAXCgvP5i/vOnxDOKTzkw5sQLIFSD7GMTxGc Ji54WVACiTLazZ+DsJLy4jN0aqYRtb+oOZpzIMaSSsazYVlq66GRmOStUdJ0ykbrXuCU lfEumN5G24YmLc4OhZwilyALeATHnUPZG+KzU= Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr1158773bkq.208.1238258101357; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilras.barsh.com ([92.251.20.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm1516302fka.4.2009.03.28.09.34.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CE5FC3.50707@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:34:59 +0100 From: rasz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Holmstr=F6m?= References: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> <20090328135448.675cfabb@gumby.homeunix.com> <49CE402D.2050701@gmail.com> <11e872670903280749w6a077b7cva41415c060d425bb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11e872670903280749w6a077b7cva41415c060d425bb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-drivers crash computer on X start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:35:03 -0000 Anders Holmström wrote: >> did you try >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> >> in Serverlayout section under screen, keyboard, mouse? >> > > I was told by a guy on the nvnews.net forums that I should put > machdep.disable_mtrrs=1 in my /boot/loader.conf. Apparently he had had > the same problem and he said it was because he had more than 2 gigs of > ram. He had solved it by that setting, and later by simply removing > the ram. I have 4 gigs, and the setting did work for me. HOWEVER, now > that I startx it's impossible to move the mouse/use the keyboard. It > also complaints about not being able to locate driver "kbd" and driver > "mouse", plus mentions AllowEmptyInput as the culprit. I tried > disabling it but it in xorg.conf, but didn't help on the input device > issue. X still started though. > > I didn't think the two were related, but based on your post I guess > they are. You could (or somebody else) possibly enlighten me a bit > more about the relationship, or point me in the right direction? man > xorg.conf didn't give much info. > > i am not sure about the machdep setting there so i cc'd the mailing list maybe someone else can help you there. about the AllowEmptyInput however, there is some info in ports/UPDATING round about when xorg was updated because I am not sure if you said you disabled the mouse from xorg config instead of moused in etc/rc.conf ( if that is what you said). i have moused_enable="NO" in etc/rc.conf and add Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in xorg.conf.new right after a Xorg -configure. also, i think you have to test cuz ppl get different setting to work depending their hardware, but i have had similar problem as you with moused enabled and AllowEm...added. ( i have only 1gb memory fyi) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 16:39:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8C106567A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA968FC2F for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857CA7E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:39:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:39:42 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11e872670903280553pfcfef6fgb56683808af94aa7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281739.43204.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Anders =?iso-8859-1?q?Holmstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: nvidia-drivers crash computer on X start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:39:46 -0000 On Saturday 28 March 2009 13:53:43 Anders Holmstr=F6m wrote: > The current xorg.conf I'm using is listed below. It was generated with > X -configure. I've used many different xorg.confs, but they've all > more or less been using the same settings as below, except when I > tried NvAGP which didn't seem to work either (unless I was missing > something). When using NvAGP, /boot/device.hints MUST contain a line that disables agp. > In dmesg.boot this is displayed: > ########### > nvidia0: on vgapci0 > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io Harmless, as these interfaces are still supported. It should be seen as=20 deprecation warning. > nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > nvidia0: [ITHREAD] > ########### > > I have tried reinstalling xorg-server and nvidia-driver many times. > I've also had the same problem on a completely different FreeBSD > install on the same computer, before a broken HDD forced me to > reinstall completely. It was the same BSD version. I've made sure that > the driver is actually loaded with kldstat, and have not used "kldload > nvidia" as it's said that it's best to put an entry in > /boot/loader.conf and restart instead. /dev/nvidia0 and /dev/nvidiactl > show up after the drivers are installed and the computer rebooted. > I've tried disabling FreeBSD AGP and using NvAGP instead, but the > exact same thing happens. My card is a GeForce 8800 GTS 512 MB, and is > supported by the drivers. You properly walked all avenues that would resolve a configuration issue on= =20 your part. There's one more to try, disable the composite extension, yet th= is=20 is a long shot if not using a window manager that uses composite. Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "disable" EndSection If that does not help, then the proper action would be to file a bug report= =20 with nvidia, using the nvidia-bug-report.sh script, that unfortunately isn'= t=20 installed by the port. It's easiest to get a hold of that script using: make -C /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver extract cp `make -C /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver -V WRKSRC`/obj/*.sh . =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 16:54:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324811065680 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000DD8FC24 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E37E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:54:21 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:54:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49CC8F78.9090001@janh.de> <20090327085735.GA27072@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <49CC9899.1020402@janh.de> In-Reply-To: <49CC9899.1020402@janh.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281754.20560.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Jan Henrik Sylvester , Olivier Nicole , "Alain G. Fabry" Subject: Re: How to list all the installed packages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:54:23 -0000 On Friday 27 March 2009 10:12:57 Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > Is there anything about build dependencies in cutleaves? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves/files/ >pkg_cutleaves?rev=1.2 > > I do not see it at a quick glance. No. Typically one knows the leaves that one has installed for a reason. Build dependencies are the rest. While not 100% perfect it covers the practical usage case. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 17:01:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421AD1065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1226F8FC14 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C957E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:01:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jimmiejaz@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:01:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CAEAD3.60304@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281801.17863.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: nmap as user works, root doesn't X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:01:20 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 03:39:15 Jimmie James wrote: > Can anyone make sense of this? > Straight DSL connection, no router. > using -e [any interface] results in the same errors > > nmap-4.76 > > As root: > #nmap -v -v google.ca > > Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-25 22:35 EDT > Warning: Hostname google.ca resolves to 3 IPs. Using 64.233.161.104. > WARNING: Unable to find appropriate interface for system route to > 64.230.197.58 > nexthost: failed to determine route to 64.233.161.104 > QUITTING! Search google for pppoe+nnmap. Haven't seen a solution for this on any of my gateways, so I'm simply using a machine behind it to do my bidding. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 17:09:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68F2106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: from s217.sureserver.com (s217.sureserver.com [203.194.200.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFB68FC1D for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: (qmail 16927 invoked by uid 1002); 28 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.9?) (saifi.khan@twincling.org@59.92.174.200) by s217.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 28 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:42:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@localhost To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Too many active children of 'whole' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:09:12 -0000 Hi: Using FreeBSD 8.x snapshot 200902, On a 160GB SATA HDD, i tried creating a 25GB slice and then selected 'install a standard MBR (no boot manager)', the installer gave a warning as: "Disk Slicing warning: Too many active children of 'whole'" What exactly does this mean ? thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 17:21:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0C106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF128FC1C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66BB7E818; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:21:51 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Frank Shute Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:21:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090326153918.GA84393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903281821.50550.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Pieter Donche , Polytropon Subject: Re: how to configure xbiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:21:54 -0000 On Thursday 26 March 2009 16:39:18 Frank Shute wrote: > ~/.xinitrc is only run when you use startx and ~/.xsession is used > when you run the display manager xdm(1). > > I believe kdm also uses xsession. > > This is all IIRC. I haven't used a display manager for sometime and > I've never used kdm. Default kdm simply runs startkde. You will have to set your "session" to "custom" in the login screen. Then .xsession will be used to set up your environment and is responsible for starting startkde in the end to use KDE. On the plus side, once done, your next login will again use the "custom" session. Of course, one may also use kmailnotify. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 18:29:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4A8106564A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcc@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BED08FC0C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcc@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 28855 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2009 18:29:04 -0000 Received: from 84.163.243.195 by www159.gmx.net with HTTP; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:29:04 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:29:04 +0100 From: "Peter Cornelius" In-Reply-To: <20090318211416.62510@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090328182904.227120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090315163416.257870@gmx.net> <49BF674C.80209@gmx.com> <20090318211416.62510@gmx.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #491680 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 5 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19JhOYIDxNJYOFHO0j88MPDEhD7qsyaLwNAyuhee9 vmUOAnILN/3YkdOEzt3U7rqOa1MA3Q+ngElw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: SVT4APAfQEV/FZe2bnVptBpCNzg2NUJh X-FuHaFi: 0.52 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Networking Questions / vlan, lagg, routing, FIBs, ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:29:07 -0000 > Now, it is my suspicion that the apparent need for promisc at the router > end indeed is an apperent one and not really the router's fault but rather > the other end's. The other end, in this case, is the server below. > > If the server, with its single MIB, default-routes its packets through one > specific of its vlans which may not be the one, at the router's end, with > the corresponding IP network the traffic entered into the net, would it be > possible that there's something preventing them be received? Unless there's > promisc on, of course... > > I'll grab the laptop next time I think of it and have the switch monitor > traffic to it to see what really is on the wire, maybe that helps and gives > me a clue. I just keep forgetting the bl**dy thing each time I leave... Ok, after a good portion of fiddling with the switch, it seems that you cannot copy traffic from link-aggregated ports to a monitor port on a Linksys SRW2016. Now out at my wits end here it seems. I'll try the FIB approach hopefully next week then. > > - On my "server", is there any way to set up individual > > > "default" routes (to the router) for each of the vlans short of > > > tucking the ezjails behind the vlan interfaces each into their own > > > FIB (btw,. has anyone ever done that?)? > > > > Yes, from FreeBSD-7.1 and beyond, there is support > > for up to 16 routing tables. Use the setfib command > > to select routing table for outgoing connections. > > So, I interpret your response as that I am correct, I have a single > default route per FIB, and that's it. Which effectively means that I do need > FIBs. I agree that this behaviour might make some sense :) > > > Something like, "setfib 10 jail $JAILOPTSANDARGS", > > in the jail case. You have to compile a kernel > > with the option ROUTETABLES=n. Read the message for > > revision 1.1485 from here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/NOTES > (...) > Generally speaking, or rather, inquiring, has anyone ever done FIBs with > ezjail? It probably is very easy, and I consider(ed) looking into it myself > but I currently spend about max. an hour every 2-3 days on FreeBSE so I > don't really progress. Well, might eventually, but that'll be dunno when. But > well, such is life, and this is pleasure not work :) and I hope to learn > something useful on the way. (...) > [1] > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2007-December/007331.html Regards, Peter. -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 18:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED815106566C for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9175E8FC1A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 51773 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2009 18:34:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SA+L4SsXzMdJOw/yFOR7ljX6jzQYAwLhxARTReEcPi4kJ0UQNLZavcO3EXvEUGDCpmATbCfJj12l+ypI8a7o6zmWHjExL9RQy5UQNwsPCFFHreI4t9d6sBf4/6ZGoF7CduBYZqSBAD+RDcRukwcvhqQC42UxUMC+w9z80ZAa+fA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2009 18:34:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: WG7IajwVM1noCx1Bio_WIIwsigwFSbazvtaAInIKkYfen65QCLV4gLEik0c6EHJ7KpEuWTv70FtufCkJPM7MuDMqov.X5BIOcrXcF2R16WIvXF.41PR684M2iweljiRC1zGrPlyfEG81xQkcalXm18oR8kjmSk7.9pjLWbhKV6P_eS_w6VjG2KOSv95S.JrpjPpgMHZlGo9OcGL_nu2acC3E3oCsYeNYDmt5aRF3dp3q.7hVAPRJReFtPqqkWfR8jyMcPNiJwpy8i4ZffkFROg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:34:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/lMymTrrIVuqsRwlVjOgKtEV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:34:13 -0000 --Sig_/lMymTrrIVuqsRwlVjOgKtEV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:48 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: >> Virtual desktops. What are you referring to? Visit the power toys URL >> for further information. >>=20 >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx > >Thanks for that. Did they use to be called PowerTools? I downloaded >them a few years ago but it didn't come with virtual desktops.=20 I don't remember. Maybe. They have had virtual desktops for years though. =20 >> >Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the >> >info locally? >>=20 >> Not necessarily. Many people don't want to clutter up their system >> with documentation that they will never use. I certainly don't. If I >> actually need an obscure bit of information, I can always obtain it. >And when your 'net connection is down, then you can obtain it? >I maintain the Handbook locally. It's no effort and can save my bacon >for whenever I don't have 'net access. If the connection is down, I am probably NOT using the PC. Hell, if the power is out for more than 30 minutes, my UPS is dead so I am most definitely not using the machine.=20 >> >I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install >> >cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and >> >undocumented. >> In your opinion. I never have a problem finding what I am looking >> for. >> >You can read the source can you? I can't. >> If you are referring to the source code; well that is obvious. If >> something else, then what? People get paid to develop the software. >> If they gave it away, they would not make a living, the unemployment >> lines would swell, and crime would increase. Now, if you don't >> believe in a capitalistic system of free enterprise, please come >> over and paint my house this weekend. I promise not to insult you by >> offering to pay you. >You've fallen hook, line & sinker for the broken windows fallacy. >I support free software with a subscription to TUG. It's not my job to >keep software developers in employment though. I am strong believer in the free enterprise system. It is certainly not your responsibility to keep anyone employed. Use whatever you want. >> >Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be >> >scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what >> >you're looking for at all. >>=20 >> Yes, it is fragmented. The simple fact that there is so much >> information is the cause, not the problem. > >It maybe the cause but it's also a problem. There should be one page >on microsoft.com for each of their OSes where one can start looking >for info. Are you joking? There all ready is. There is a home page for each of their major products. From there you can pretty much wander anywhere you want. I find it beyond belief that you cannot find one. >For instance, I did a search for "cmd.exe commands" on Google and it >didn't return a useful page from microsoft.com on the first page. >That's weak. What's even weaker is that cmd.exe isn't described in any >of the local documentation on Vista/XP. 1) That is a Google limitation. On WinXP 2) type: cmd.exe into the search box Honestly, have you actually tried? Honestly, that is pretty pathetic. >> Did you actually install the 'Power Shell?' I assume that is what you >> are talking about. Read the 'Getting Started" pages. I just installed >> it and there is a wealth of information there. Certainly enough to >> get started with. > >I was talking about cmd.exe. That's the shell on Windows isn't it? I don't know. It is your system, you tell me. >I thought Powershell shipped with my version of Vista (business) but I >guess I was wrong. You are incorrect. At least it did not ship with the original version of Vista. That, like everything else, is subject to change. >> BTW, many people consider 'man' to be an acronym for "Much About >> Nothing". Therein lies the reason that O'Reilly has make a fortune >> distributing 'How-To' books. > >I own a shelf full of O'Reilly books. If I get my softs for free, I >don't mind paying for extra documentation. I have a whole wall in my office filled with mostly O'Reilly books dealing with everything from Postfix, Sendmail, etc. to common tasks like Regular Expressions, Sed & Awk, ad-infinitum. Contrary to you statement, the 'man' for most products, commands, etc. is usually quite weak. Hence the acronym I previously described. At best it only touches the surface. There are a few exceptions, but they are few and far between. >When I pay for software, I expect it to be thoroughly documented (=C3=A0 la >AutoCAD with a big thick manual). IBM did a study approximately 10 years ago regarding software documentation included with the software. They found what most users all ready knew; most end users NEVER read the documentation. They either use on-line help or telephone support. IBM, Microsoft and most other major software publishers saved millions by discarding what the end user was all ready discarding; i.e. the MANUAL. Norton I believe is still one of the few that produces a fairly concise instruction manual, although I have not used them in five years either. =20 >> >I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can >> >use to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad >> >would be a bonus too. Then download one. There are dozens of free ones available. I use PSPad myself. By the way, what is the default for FBSD? I thought it was "ee", a real powerhouse. I am not sure; but does anyone actually use that program? BTW, XP and maybe Vista come with 'wordpad'. Not exactly a powerhouse, but it is free and more versatile that Notepad. >> >I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no >> >avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member >> >of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't >> >seem to be readily available. >>=20 >> Obviously, you have not installed the shell. Besides the info >> included with the program, you might want to check out the following >> URL. It should answer most of your immediate questions. I also >> question you 'search' ability. I don't seem to be having any problem >> finding gratuitous amounts of documentation. >>=20 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926139 > >User guide in rtf and docs in txt. Laughable. It is available. You falsely claimed it was not available. The format would obviously fit what Microsoft uses. I would not expect them to use Latex anymore than I would expect FBSD to publish in a 'doc' format. If I visit a Arabic site, I would expect it to be written in Arabic. Does that mean they are idiots? (Well maybe, but that is another story) >> >In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was >> >like wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the >> >best out of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and >> >download vast amounts of "missing" software and spend inordinate >> >amounts of time on google.=20 >>=20 >> Yes, it is commonly referred to as a 'learning curve' Personally, >> anyone who cannot handle a Win32 machine has serous problems. Six >> year old kids gleefully manipulate a PC without problems. I know >> several 7 & 8 year old kids running MS Office without any difficulty >> at all. It all depends on how motivated you are. > >Can they manipulate their files & dirs with the Vista file manager? Yes. Exactly what is it that you are unable to do? >Nobody's pointed out docs for the aforesaid file manager yet. There is documentation under the 'Help' system. You have not stated what it is you are looking for, so helping you is beyond the scope of my crystal ball. >> Conversely, I know many individuals who just plain gave up tying to >> run a *.nix system because they could not get a device to work, or >> locate a driver, or find a support mechanism that was suitable for >> them purposes. Things like FLASH have always been problematic on >> FreeBSD. Now why don't you post a nice, concise list of problems you are allegedly experiencing as opposed to a rambling condemnation of a product you claim to not even be using. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com I believe a little incompatibility is the spice of life, particularly if he has income and she is pattable. Ogden Nash --Sig_/lMymTrrIVuqsRwlVjOgKtEV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknObaEACgkQBvaKIJWWCO0MOwCcCn2Z1paRvX8376FsSscTwZXu sEYAn39sdBlvE3vmHQkpYMgWvgBDXauR =xMbo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/lMymTrrIVuqsRwlVjOgKtEV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 21:23:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B468C1065676 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121A88FC18 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2SLNdgs065828 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:23:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2SLNcKD065825 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:23:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:23:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:23:52 -0000 got completely off topic. please get that discussion off the list FreeBSD is not windows program, but standalone OS. Possibly it can be run under windows and some kind of VM but it should be discussed on windows support list etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 21:44:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4E31065676 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ichrisschneider@me.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B868FC13 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ichrisschneider@me.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([96.248.231.99]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KH8002E1HLQRB40@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5D23A1D2-9EE6-43E3-8F18-B71FBF8589B2@me.com> From: Christopher Schneider To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:44:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Which is the best Free BSD for each of my computers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:44:20 -0000 Free BSD Team, iMac with the 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with Mac OS X version 10.5.6 Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac8,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00 SMC Version: 1.30f1 Serial Number: W88106UGZE4 ----------------------------------------- Break =20 ------------------------------------------------- Gateway Laptop MT6460 Notebook Specifications Part Number: 2905931RGateway MT6460 Notebook Feature Description Processor AMD Athlon=99 64 X2 Mobile Technology TK-53 1.7 GHz | 512 KB L2 cache | HyperTransport=99 technology up to 1600 MHz Chipset ATI RS485M Display panel 15.4-inch WXGA (1280 =D7 800) Memory Installed memory: 1024 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2 =D7 512) Total slots: 2 DDR2 slots | Available slots: 0 DDR2 slots Video controller Integrated ATI Radeon=AE Xpress 1150 Up to 256 MB of HyperMemory=99 Audio High definition audio. 2 channel Hard drive 80 GB 5400 RPM PATA hard drive ----------------------------------------- Break =20 ------------------------------------------------- Sony VAIO FRV37 - Pentium 4 2.8 GHz - 15 " - 512 MB Ram - 60 GB HDD General System Type Notebook Built-in Devices Stereo speakers Width 13 in Depth 10.8 in Height 2.2 in Weight 7.7 lbs Processor Processor Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz Data Bus Speed 533 MHz Cache Memory Type L2 cache Installed Size 512 KB RAM Installed Size 512 MB / 1 GB (max) Technology DDR SDRAM Storage Controller Type IDE Storage Hard Drive 60 GB ----------------------------------------- Break =20 ------------------------------------------------- and what if anything, would having this software do in relation to my =20= Apple TV? Thank you for your time, Chris Schneider= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 21:46:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5ED1065689 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9448FC1B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1406779ewy.43 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:46:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7X22eRVsGfqJeX8JxB7uqSFoMNSOXObGzFWqlbRh6Sc=; b=L/huj9tUSjVp5Cp3jK9w9JnH9CbpsnbVlhoOtlfX2JH3h7xAPQjeMCK/aBWip69vJ+ NAM/7V/Ey9jrke58drLu1/r6+EoKV/PnnFM2S0yw6qtFYNlqMOUpX91u/gy2K1Y+7gRT jKa6twTIRvc5MO5SeUHPrQAiIJJnow44N1EZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jqZEzy8DajrRzNM+CUzqebTf9wWd6OecE1breiYYpqbrRSUGk16EL2A7a3FeQPx95r +oIiblGMfaaCecWgjRO3nBImbxaBf5YFFMzVhz+Jex2g0s0IEn2x/oSsG1rNEnICcb3W deUJQ5thQkAMV/bYdSUF5Wf/9duRGTN76eLsI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr1326953eba.23.1238276780050; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:46:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18894.4820.862743.914129@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <49CCE5D3.6020900@waywood.co.uk> <200903281252.05083.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <18894.4820.862743.914129@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:46:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Wine without X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:46:22 -0000 2009/3/28 Robert Huff : > > Mel Flynn writes: > >> =A0> Can I ask one more possibly really dumb question, to which I >> =A0> =A0can find no answer: Is there a 'conventional', or sensible >> =A0> =A0for one reason oranother, place to download application source t= o? >> >> =A0Most systems I use or inherited use a variation of ~/src ~/cvs or >> =A0~/svn, where src are the tarballs + their extracted source and >> =A0cvs/svn checkouts and/or exports. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I have never done this, but if I were running a private po= rts > tree I would be tempted to root it (if not on a separate partition) > at "/usr/priv_ports" or something similar and have the structure > minic /usr/ports whereever possible. =A0The name would then be > semi-intuitive, and a simple change of a few environment variables > (perhaps in the login file of an account dedicated to working on > those ports) would be all it took to change the framework. > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Robert Huf= f > I'm always inclined to use --PREFIX=3D/sw/local/ when compiling; I'm used to Fink on my Mac, so /sw is a nice directory for that. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 22:45:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795B81065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9948FC0A for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bb-205-209-95-188.gwi.net [205.209.95.188]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2SMj3ve076932 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:45:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wheelie207@gwi.net) Message-ID: <49CEA86F.3010403@gwi.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:45:03 -0400 From: Harold Hartley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090302 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.21 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090328-0, 03/28/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:45:07 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > got completely off topic. please get that discussion off the list > > FreeBSD is not windows program, but standalone OS. Possibly it can be > run under windows and some kind of VM but it should be discussed on > windows support list etc. > _______________________________________________ I'm sorry that I even brought up the windows and freebsd questions if it was going to bring out such nonsense answers or atitudes from some. I was always told that to learn about something is to ask the question no matter how silly it may be. Harold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 22:59:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958C8106566B for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314B78FC17 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2SMn3iH017429 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:49:03 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n2SMn311017428; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:49:03 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 3CD26BE55; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:48:19 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <49CC98A8.10203@bluelight.org.uk> (message from Terry on Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:12 +0000) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090328224819.3CD26BE55@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:48:19 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: web based file sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:59:41 -0000 >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:13:12 +0000, >> Terry said: T> Just looking for a way to give easy access over the internet to some files T> for multiple users. Web based would be ideal as they all know how to open a T> browser. Try drall, it's easy to set up and works like a charm. http://home.gna.org/drall/ was the original link, but it doesn't seem to be working today, so you might want to Google "drall 1.17" and grab it from a mirror. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know. --Abraham Lincoln From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 23:13:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366C91065670 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACF38FC1E for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n2SNDfrL021105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n2SNDfJ3021104; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00766; Sat, 28 Mar 09 15:05:48 PST Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:04:35 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: gesbbb@yahoo.com Message-Id: <49cead03.Js40Akez1SdAIljK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> <20090328154948.GA96077@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090328143409.29a27078@scorpio> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:42 -0000 Jerry wrote: > If the connection is down, I am probably NOT using the PC. Hell, > if the power is out for more than 30 minutes, my UPS is dead so > I am most definitely not using the machine. So you never experience connectivity problems for any reason other than a local power failure? Astonishing! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 23:13:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5FA1065672 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7628FC25 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n2SNDfsI021114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n2SNDf4G021111; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00780; Sat, 28 Mar 09 15:10:33 PST Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:09:20 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: gesbbb@yahoo.com Message-Id: <49ceae20.uypoc5g4EL61zH5l%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C99E1C.9090303@gwi.net> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20090328083932.6d2ad3d3@scorpio> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Heller-Johnson syndrome (Re: installing freebsd on windows) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:13:42 -0000 > Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. > > Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere > within the organization. Author unknown: If someone *does* know what is going on in the organization, that person must be fired. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 28 23:25:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B551F1065672 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [195.74.52.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B078FC1D for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB45416FC3 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:24:59 +0200 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090329012459.529ca331.ghirai@ghirai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: if anyone needs OOo 3.0.1 i386 package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:25:03 -0000 Seeing as good-day.net only has packages for amd64, i figured i'd make one; it only took about 9 hours or so :P http://ghirai.com/openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz (~130MiB) Created with pkg_create -b on 7.1. Tried to install on another box and it worked fine, provided you have the required deps installed. -- Regards, Ghirai.