From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 00:02:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA06106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FF88FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090405000247.KPTL29713.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org>; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:02:47 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (moab.polands.org [172.16.1.8]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3502jBo024745; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:02:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 172.16.1.33 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <75424c1e194a143415b99e169b0588a3.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <49D7AFC9.9090708@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <49D7AC35.7060000@polands.org> <49D7AFC9.9090708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:02:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: "Matthew Seaman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade fu... AKA there has to be a better way X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:02:48 -0000 On Sat, April 4, 2009 14:06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Doug Poland wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm upgrading a server from 6.4 to 7.1 and am going through the >> relative pain of re-compiling all the ports. It's not as easy >> "portupgrade -af" because of all the special handling instructions >> of many ports. >> >> I have not found an "easy" way to keep track of the ports that need >> to be forcibly updated but have not undergone a version change. >> Because I approach the upgrade in steps, I need to run portupgrade >> several times but want to exclude stuff already compiled under 7.x. >> >> What I need is a command like: >> >> # portupgrade -af -x "already compiled on 7" >> >> >> Suggestions, comments, rebukes welcome. > > Assuming you start the upgrade today, then: > > # portupgrade -af -x ">=2009-04-04" > hmmm, I don't think it gets much easier than that. Thanks! -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 01:02:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85852106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378768FC1D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1037883yxm.13 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=BZ1tCjQhhliwF4faAFzoBphjVAh0GlDYJl9l+XHEXAw=; b=TbH0z/MH2Tp6VHtiTTQwmH2qZEhBdHoPdpHFAp8anqB4zPN3a1TB14/tdy2qhCRWv2 A9u5lY3MK7eDCbwJTfpnj6bTNNl3dsJHxm2z7wXYNrAyPJDdLcousggk0iyKJe/OWRLL 7xXJIDovvYhetBU1acKZWUDt5FcR5lJ9ZREno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=h3MNCVuNE1r67D0cnH8b7mafvULH5I1cDeAzbaxFI6ciAFZaS26HauxULz3NCmd+07 o2AX/bAobdA9J5JaKAIcUPKidVpWJpDzhh6g9Ht943VGlmm+VgJYsVrHNQyuuK+KexlU SE0l3vi/B/sZ7A9byY2/4186XzIE+SO+Ghukc= Received: by 10.90.25.11 with SMTP id 11mr921697agy.59.1238893370614; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.206? ([189.123.213.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 25sm4496399aga.5.2009.04.04.18.02.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Torfinn Ingolfsen , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:01:41 -0300 Message-Id: <1238893301.21816.11.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: upgrade of databases/sqlite3 to 3.6.11 fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:02:51 -0000 it is generate by the libtool code at /usr/local/bin/libtool edit that file (search for the words "not ending" and comment those 2 lines, re-install the package.... For me it works... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 02:43:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B211065674 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248588FC19 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LqIKu-0007he-Uh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:43:52 -0700 Message-ID: <22889910.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:43:52 -0700 (PDT) From: snott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <22878294.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: skye@f4.ca References: <22862006.post@talk.nabble.com> <22872988.post@talk.nabble.com> <22878294.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Recovering partitions from disk image? *resolved* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:43:54 -0000 If anyone's interested, the last post I made about doing a bsdlabel, fsck, mdconfig etc on the damaged disk image worked. I have recovered all my files! Hooray!!! Skye -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Recovering-partitions-from-disk-image--tp22862006p22889910.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 05:07:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDA3106566C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACDC8FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B65E5E2FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:07:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wgnteuAwib7O for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:07:52 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028C75E2C7 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:07:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49D83CA7.8000305@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:07:51 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49D75C83.9040807@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49D75C83.9040807@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updating Perl.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:07:55 -0000 Hello list. When one updates perl, one should rebuild all ports dependend on perl according to the UPDATING file. I'm just wondering, isn't the script "perl-after-upgrade" supposed to do the work needed, so that one can save the time of upgrading the ports? Thanks. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 06:59:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16999106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B028FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 10986 invoked by uid 89); 5 Apr 2009 07:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 07:00:11 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:59:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:59:42 -0000 Blast... my beautiful FreeBSD servers were rudely switched off when my data had a power outage a couple hours ago. They restored power about 30 minutes later, and one box came up no problem. The other has a login prompt on the serial console, but my login does not work. I get a "Login incorrect" message, even though the username/ password is correct. When I try to SSH into the box, I get this (server name changed): $ ssh user@example.com -p 48420 ssh: connect to host example.com port 48420: Connection refused In other words, I seem to be locked out. I don't want to do anything drastic without having a good idea what I'm doing. Any suggestions, much appreciated. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 07:40:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC5B106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjung20@illinois.edu) Received: from expredir7.cites.uiuc.edu (expredir7.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80FC8FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjung20@illinois.edu) Received: from expms2.cites.uiuc.edu (expms2.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.206]) by expredir7.cites.uiuc.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n357UmE4007736 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from expms2.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.212]) by expms2.cites.uiuc.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id BSQ12123 (AUTH hjung20); Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:30:53 -0500 (CDT) From: To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.10.3-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090405023053.BSQ12123@expms2.cites.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Subject: I would like to know about tracing system call in FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:40:59 -0000 Dear, I have tried to trace system call using C language. I would like to detect privilege escalation through traceing system call. Although freebsd announce the patch of telnet demon to remove malicious access to esaclate privilege, I would like to implement the detecting program. My idea is if I detect the change of uid of process then I can recongnize the privilege escalation. I would like to get the program guide or document of kernel program of freebsd. Sincere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 08:09:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9E7106566C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB808FC14 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1433232ewy.43 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:09:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FiRmixc1leu/+Ew/LpSMqRoP6eLLrsa/R0cb4vJwq6g=; b=YhnSXu/9LssIGMJ1I33z2T2rN7DkVP8f08PCdTBKC+inXEXzLxB5S9caTgFrlL0wPp 80BnxLTXcRLCi8hOEtuiZvrrERIlf4A5u3lk8U3ibQGJPS2N0cbDqIcD041N7tBdCDdn P0kLHeN6S/5+/E62nt9OI/Tm6Sn2ysvDFTbdA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bbs9Mbr2sFWNnATh32qoTwdqRaV+IXf4WH8rtChI1EjHhDsiDZ8ikT3MDjU3EV7+n7 jbV35Xlrnz5cTWJxB61yo49BhBORiJUDO/+0G1bjHnJV8WStNSaVuosFznsr9q/gzpAp NbYlpJ3UR5tnRj9cxNhq1yJW/w50AUsKXNZlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr2320544ebd.46.1238918951244; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:09:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D7D92F.6000905@gmail.com> References: <49D7D92F.6000905@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:09:11 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904050109i380d1844vffb1f0c894e1fd8@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: manish jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Critical : My X went down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:09:13 -0000 On 4/5/09, manish jain wrote: > > Hi all, > > In attempting to unlock some Python related mysteries (which neither > python-list nor python-help would respond to despite repeated queries), > I found myself recursively portupgrading myself right up the xorg > distribution. That wasn't half as bad as the fact that - after all that > effort - X does not even start now. Use vesa driver instead, and direct intel driver questions to Xorg lists. i810, driver that you used with old Xorg is abandoned and replaced with intel. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 08:23:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CA6106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1538C8FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n358NquU079045; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n358NquU079045 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1238919833; bh=V9I6YuNRXo8aFaJB1tv0EGbCbqK7zq1RYsNb7/q7T/M=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49D86A91.1080208@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2005=20Apr=202009=2009:23:45=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090321)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Leslie=20Jensen=20|CC:=20freebsd- questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Updating=20Perl..|Reference s:=20<49D75C83.9040807@eskk.nu>=20<49D83CA7.8000305@eskk.nu>|In-Re ply-To:=20<49D83CA7.8000305@eskk.nu>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enig430636AC9B6565BD05AE7BAE"; b=edxI/mSPzE6mvTalBdVzAsL2Ykh3+tgMtcC8Rnr4Pcp0djN/Kx5UDTAkt1sVE3qkj ci/0sk8bf/SVTIQvgfxeACOeoa5hcyIpWW9kupXUD/fRbjwa4uEMxjA2FDMJh19jOr daDKxrUiqpXzna4jRCzPAIqP6gpCvTuVlSAvTydc= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49D86A91.1080208@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:23:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <49D75C83.9040807@eskk.nu> <49D83CA7.8000305@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49D83CA7.8000305@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig430636AC9B6565BD05AE7BAE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating Perl.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:23:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig430636AC9B6565BD05AE7BAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leslie Jensen wrote: > Hello list. >=20 > When one updates perl, one should rebuild all ports dependend on perl=20 > according to the UPDATING file. >=20 > I'm just wondering, isn't the script "perl-after-upgrade" supposed to d= o=20 > the work needed, so that one can save the time of upgrading the ports? It depends on the upgrade. For 5.8.8 -> 5.8.9 then perl-after-upgrade works fine: this is because there is binary compatibility so that .so modules compiled for 5.8.8 will load just fine into 5.8.9. The work of perl-after-upgrade is simply to move files from /usr/local/lib/perl/site_perl/5.8.8 to .../5.8.9 For the upgrade from 5.8.[89] to 5.10.0, there is no binary compatibility= so all perl modules that install loadable binaries will have to be recompiled. Rather than trying to produce a long list of what modules are pure perl and what aren't the advice is simply to reinstall everythin= g. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig430636AC9B6565BD05AE7BAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAknYapgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwovQCfT2b/C8qo8kfT1wJBnNqfDnva MUAAn0g4LwXzg+gTYtz5T23o92IzkCc0 =CaOG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig430636AC9B6565BD05AE7BAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 08:41:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47208106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A0C8FC08 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1052287and.13 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:41:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0W5wYanV2JXxBHpze0LVP031FJwWTRvgJY1/IhUS7tk=; b=UpHPfzek7+ypi3ikSMG+DexLNqm2IntJwMX9hj0hgC7tbkD3O+2hTHPDDWbcGObhPQ 4NgN+lnCU6Tvshd0NGBFUeMXTGI0/38kv2yMTu5lwndtA8T8oEwIL8f2hN1Wxda+f+gN 0AZKeP/J5XN4LjeXkcpucAHZ7+3Exz4Ux9IQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P8Rp6TPQxYWpQkihpDbjLq0Sa3jzEZtSp6qWoXd/rLknsSOZHO7LpRj0f/sUfJo2OE SLIkdAQuWSxO5fpbwKv45gfMMDRyxlCuqXCd78N5DQ7SVm19hsZJ1uEq2b5ahMrDb5O0 D+AlAqu5nqWltlCuqnKvth+dmTfcD78GUv3bg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.254.15 with SMTP id b15mr4349828ani.150.1238920861428; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:41:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: John Almberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:41:02 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, John Almberg wrote: > Blast... my beautiful FreeBSD servers were rudely switched off when my data > had a power outage a couple hours ago. They restored power about 30 minutes > later, and one box came up no problem. > > The other has a login prompt on the serial console, but my login does not > work. I get a "Login incorrect" message, even though the username/password > is correct. > Can you log in as *any* user? Even root login fails? > When I try to SSH into the box, I get this (server name changed): > > $ ssh user@example.com -p 48420 > ssh: connect to host example.com port 48420: Connection refused > > In other words, I seem to be locked out. > > I don't want to do anything drastic without having a good idea what I'm > doing. Any suggestions, much appreciated. > What was the previous (estimated) uptime on the machine? In other words, did you change something and not/forget to restart the service? Have you tried ssh-ing to port 22 to see if the setting was changed back to default? Are there any other services on this box? If so, are they running? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 09:07:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3231065674 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6018FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 24243 invoked by uid 89); 5 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:07:37 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:07:40 -0000 On Apr 5, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, John Almberg > wrote: >> Blast... my beautiful FreeBSD servers were rudely switched off >> when my data >> had a power outage a couple hours ago. They restored power about >> 30 minutes >> later, and one box came up no problem. >> >> The other has a login prompt on the serial console, but my login >> does not >> work. I get a "Login incorrect" message, even though the username/ >> password >> is correct. >> > > Can you log in as *any* user? Even root login fails? Can't log in at all. > >> When I try to SSH into the box, I get this (server name changed): >> >> $ ssh user@example.com -p 48420 >> ssh: connect to host example.com port 48420: Connection refused >> >> In other words, I seem to be locked out. >> >> I don't want to do anything drastic without having a good idea >> what I'm >> doing. Any suggestions, much appreciated. >> > > What was the previous (estimated) uptime on the machine? Several months, at least. > In other > words, did you change something and not/forget to restart the service? I don't believe so, but if I forgot it, then I guess anything is possible. > Have you tried ssh-ing to port 22 to see if the setting was changed > back to default? I can't at the moment, because the guys at NYI are working on the box. They have run fsck, which doesn't seem to have solved the problem. > > Are there any other services on this box? If so, are they running? The main app is MySQL. I don't think it is running, but can't really tell unless I can log in. I have backups, and while NYI is trying to get this box running, I'm setting up a new database server, just in case... -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 09:16:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F991106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail4.hostpark.net (mail4.hostpark.net [212.243.197.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264D78FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail4.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3BA3F326; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail4.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail4.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id KrsUShTCfs0W; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (93-47.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch [92.106.47.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail4.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A873F324; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n358wYhx045097; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:58:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n358wY6x045096; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:58:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:58:34 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090405085834.GL72129@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: ipfw: bandwidth limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:16:04 -0000 Hello My system: FreeBSD firewall 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #3: Fri Feb 6 10:47:08 CET 2009 martin@firewall:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD_AMD64 amd64 I use the following rule in my /etc/rc.firewall: [snip] $ipfwcmd pipe 1 config bw 80KByte/s $ipfwcmd add pipe 1 ip from any to 192.168.10.0/24{100-254} via em1 [snip] I'm not sure it works. When I do a large download which takes long and anybody else want download too, this download will only get a reduce bandwidth. I expect that the second download get same rate as the first one (and reduce the bandwidth from the first one). Is that correct? Kind regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 10:22:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9217106566C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F228FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LqPV2-0008Sp-U7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:22:48 +0000 Received: from pool-68-239-65-11.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.65.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:22:48 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-65-11.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:22:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:23:34 -0400 Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-65-11.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:22:52 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, John Almberg >> wrote: >>> Blast... my beautiful FreeBSD servers were rudely switched off >>> when my data >>> had a power outage a couple hours ago. They restored power about >>> 30 minutes >>> later, and one box came up no problem. >>> >>> The other has a login prompt on the serial console, but my login >>> does not >>> work. I get a "Login incorrect" message, even though the username/ >>> password >>> is correct. >>> >> >> Can you log in as *any* user? Even root login fails? > > Can't log in at all. > >> >>> When I try to SSH into the box, I get this (server name changed): >>> >>> $ ssh user@example.com -p 48420 >>> ssh: connect to host example.com port 48420: Connection refused >>> >>> In other words, I seem to be locked out. >>> >>> I don't want to do anything drastic without having a good idea >>> what I'm >>> doing. Any suggestions, much appreciated. >>> >> >> What was the previous (estimated) uptime on the machine? > > Several months, at least. > >> In other >> words, did you change something and not/forget to restart the service? > > I don't believe so, but if I forgot it, then I guess anything is > possible. > >> Have you tried ssh-ing to port 22 to see if the setting was changed >> back to default? > > I can't at the moment, because the guys at NYI are working on the > box. They have run fsck, which doesn't seem to have solved the problem. > >> >> Are there any other services on this box? If so, are they running? > > The main app is MySQL. I don't think it is running, but can't really > tell unless I can log in. > > I have backups, and while NYI is trying to get this box running, I'm > setting up a new database server, just in case... > If you were lucky having the guys at NYI login to single user mode at the console and run fsck in an attempt to clear up minor file system damage would have squared things away. MySQL is not real happy if there has been fs damage to the underlying files and their .bin logs. However, not being able to log in to a basic service like SSH is not good. Whether or not MySQL wants to come up SSH should still be working. In the end the guys at NYI are probably going to have to do a full system load and restore the last backup, and/or replace defective hardware. I have seen old hard drives in RAID arrays that had perked along for years show no hint of any problem. Power down the machine to do something like blow the dust out or stick in some more memory sticks and it won't come up again. Had I not powered down it may have happily run a while longer. I have seen drives fail like this before, especially when they are fairly old. At this stage you can only emit SIGH and replace/rebuild. But if the NYI guys are responsible for providing you with a running system the onus is on them to get it going again, at least up to a certain point. After that you would need to pick up and carry the ball the rest of the way. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 11:40:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAED106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5118FC16 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LqQhm-00034I-TD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:40:02 +0000 Received: from 93-141-3-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.141.3.137]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:40:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 93-141-3-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:40:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:38:47 +0200 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20090405023053.BSQ12123@expms2.cites.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA5DDD14D3EED5102C5A86FF8" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-141-3-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <20090405023053.BSQ12123@expms2.cites.uiuc.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: I would like to know about tracing system call in FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:40:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA5DDD14D3EED5102C5A86FF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hjung20@illinois.edu wrote: > Dear, >=20 > I have tried to trace system call using C language. >=20 > I would like to detect privilege escalation through traceing system cal= l. > Although freebsd announce the patch of telnet demon to remove malicious= access to esaclate privilege, I would like to implement the detecting pr= ogram. >=20 > My idea is if I detect the change of uid of process then I can recongni= ze the privilege escalation. Maybe the audit(4) framework will be useful to you. --------------enigA5DDD14D3EED5102C5A86FF8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknYmEcACgkQldnAQVacBciGvQCgtGSifzvsuwzAs1GQcMj3tyUH +LsAnRLmcnEO5hOx8mybQIu+MDh0Yxsh =ivg4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA5DDD14D3EED5102C5A86FF8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 11:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB80106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCB68FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1905183tia.3 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=En94c49uFpsic+GAU8mzZo/Mo+byJJMHgawTNoaL0jk=; b=RznVgb7PAV7xN1UAKYZwJfHZkud4pGir06cHlRwcdm2J1+03+NHyVRkDyHUC2OpCn0 nUY45flC2RpWVywRs7TlfYqeVb+VVTdKPBBYPCm3czOqRFVM661pjoMMLSiwi+AA67mc K0QQYkwx3WvUxaAa/ZdiddVeXwydgmlx6C/VA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eb3yHxvL+jL9mv8qJ9xdygHkssnKY1DD1BhpKO+fNrwpw6Ep7wgJZnfJ1VWRArbgA3 Z8Mm3ypVj0Z7Wosu/lA+E7vFmLtbwWAmPeXY57grTRf7B7nzDCU43OebEXUB4u2n+LQu YO3qzCU3kSgTnacKr0Marj7ErtzKvp+Va0dnw= Received: by 10.110.95.11 with SMTP id s11mr4785519tib.24.1238931915553; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([117.196.225.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm3659518tic.35.2009.04.05.04.45.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D89A25.9070209@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:16:45 +0530 From: manish jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49D7D92F.6000905@gmail.com> <3a142e750904050109i380d1844vffb1f0c894e1fd8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904050109i380d1844vffb1f0c894e1fd8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Critical : My X went down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:45:17 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 4/5/09, manish jain wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In attempting to unlock some Python related mysteries (which neither >> python-list nor python-help would respond to despite repeated queries), >> I found myself recursively portupgrading myself right up the xorg >> distribution. That wasn't half as bad as the fact that - after all that >> effort - X does not even start now. > > Use vesa driver instead, and direct intel driver questions to Xorg lists. > i810, driver that you used with old Xorg is abandoned and replaced with intel. > > Hello Paul, Thanks for the information. But, as for the plan of action, I think I'll go the other way round. I'll reinstall FreeBSD 7.1 from scratch and just make sure nobody ever touches my xorg setup again. I could upgrade my system, yes, but my Celeron Coppermine 800 MHz + Intel 810-based motherboard system was running just as fast as the fancy 2.0 GHz PC's at IBM where I was working last year. BTW, I seriously wish I were a billionaire so that I could help FreeBSD get rid of this X client-server nuisance forever. I have never seen anything so ill-conceived, pathetically fragmented (modular is the polite way of referring to it), inefficient and featureless. The Mission looks Impossible-3 but, for starters, I just got a job offer yesterday from a multinational where the pay is roughly 50% higher. So maybe, someday, ... :-) -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:08:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA52106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BCB8FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n35C89aX022911; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:08:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n35C89mI022908; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:08:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:08:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Martin Schweizer In-Reply-To: <20090405085834.GL72129@saturn.pcs.ms> Message-ID: References: <20090405085834.GL72129@saturn.pcs.ms> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw: bandwidth limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:08:18 -0000 > [snip] > $ipfwcmd pipe 1 config bw 80KByte/s > $ipfwcmd add pipe 1 ip from any to 192.168.10.0/24{100-254} via em1 > [snip] > > I'm not sure it works. When I do a large download which takes long and > anybody else want download too, this download will only get a reduce > bandwidth. I expect that the second download get same rate as the first one > (and reduce the bandwidth from the first one). Is that correct? your example limits it all to 80kB/s but does no traffic management. so it may get the same rate (half by half) or may not. do $ipfwcmd pipe 1 config bw 80kByte/s $ipfwcmd queue 1 config pipe 1 weight 1 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff $ipfwcmd add queue 1 ip from any to 192.168.10.0/24{100-254} via em1 this will limit them to 80kB/s and perform fair-sharing based of hosts. for example if one user on one computer will start 100 downloads, and other on other computer will start 1 download, this will ensure that first user will not takeover most bandwidth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:18:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCC4106566C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1538FC46 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so402547eyf.7 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.35.17 with SMTP id i17mr2425486ebi.77.1238932007460; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erendi.lastdot.org (79-65-25-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [79.65.25.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm5295239eyg.37.2009.04.05.04.46.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:46:51 +0100 From: "lucian@lastdot.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: range of IPs in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:18:12 -0000 Hi, I need to use around 30 IPs on a freebsd 7 machine. Is there a way to avoid adding 30 lines of aliases in rc.conf? On RedHat/Centos I use this trick: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/RangeOfIpsOnEthx Anything similar available for FreeBSD? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:22:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2B3106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5415A8FC19 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so5206389gxk.19 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:22:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sARrMChgsWGof6+c3XeS8Q7gR/4Sz9d9COUv6RlRoMA=; b=aFLPwAwYK4Tudbl5nRO1bbHZ8YRmwb7Vow8wObRehKTVpiHqMytx/rI13DPvVtfsDN MtsVurxwG5g00L1v5w4xIr1lTuFQaOYuwj4YVUGgM+q2V6/qgH45rNzmumKD5tSvJAr3 3r61U76udtNjGzi0ftnSuKl61LyVpY86R7jEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XO6fjTbYB7uMVAaJ540vJ2dzVfY8TWZ3ZKn3DOjw/1a7WXlCE+hL1lRyDB8Lq2m4HE lIH/Lj8hQuzire4UsYUSSmspDrtIhInP8q6nbVz8gYExOK8hTWz8u6FWmTLRZB2RGC7N 1z9DTo/HbvcwjAXIOGuTX43+SrxKCD8jzdmGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.252.18 with SMTP id z18mr1821349anh.52.1238934133567; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:22:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org> References: <49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904050522h1483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "lucian@lastdot.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: range of IPs in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:22:15 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:46 AM, lucian@lastdot.org wrote: > Hi, > > I need to use around 30 IPs on a freebsd 7 machine. Is there a way to avoid > adding 30 lines of aliases in rc.conf? On RedHat/Centos I use this trick: > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/RangeOfIpsOnEthx > You could create a customized rc file (I personally use rc.local) which will be run at boot. You could then use #!/bin/sh and a 'for' loop to create the devices. IMHO, this solution is a lot uglier than 30 extra lines in rc.conf. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:28:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F5F106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A714D8FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n35CS9AC082156; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:28:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n35CS9AC082156 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1238934490; bh=9dWVfiMYKT5/kSYfDiumuR7aeGbAUTcovBsE8vHoaSU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49D8A3D9.30000@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun ,=2005=20Apr=202009=2013:28:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090321)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Glen=20Barber=20|CC:=20"lu cian@lastdot.org"=20,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-quest ions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20range=20of=20IPs=20in=20rc.conf| References:=20<49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org>=20<4ad871310904050522h1 483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<4ad871310 904050522h1483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Ver sion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp- sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enig600CFFBB09A77344388B15E4"; b=4brl+j2QpnG0IpMjqn6ls1QSdn5qJ1f7aJp0D3Zmf9h693g91l2kV1w9aBBtlUlg8 Jk8eDxiBoqpNxGf3mE8I21n5iGh6h+/Mj9Ve3Z4PZ8Dn6D8tsWr0+mX12U/kj4rBEy Q1BZcAw71s25cAeFVfGpF2We3lpJBTLowvqfD8Fk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49D8A3D9.30000@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:28:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org> <4ad871310904050522h1483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904050522h1483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig600CFFBB09A77344388B15E4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "lucian@lastdot.org" Subject: Re: range of IPs in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:28:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig600CFFBB09A77344388B15E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:46 AM, lucian@lastdot.org = wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I need to use around 30 IPs on a freebsd 7 machine. Is there a way to = avoid >> adding 30 lines of aliases in rc.conf? On RedHat/Centos I use this tri= ck: >> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/RangeOfIpsOnEthx >> >=20 > You could create a customized rc file (I personally use rc.local) > which will be run at boot. You could then use #!/bin/sh and a 'for' > loop to create the devices. >=20 > IMHO, this solution is a lot uglier than 30 extra lines in rc.conf. >=20 If this is a contiguous range of IPs, then use the ipv4_addrs_ifN=20 construct, which you can read all about in rc.conf(5). Eg: ipv4_addrs_em0=3D"192.168.64.33-63/24" Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig600CFFBB09A77344388B15E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAknYo9kACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz3DgCfapEmMUrORk8EU+SlVOUfHteD yasAn3ShuD6ZcMqZ3DX/G4aLshK4k2mA =HwrT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig600CFFBB09A77344388B15E4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:41:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79A91065674 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4073A8FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1482290ewy.43 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.11.17 with SMTP id 17mr2475019ebk.25.1238935259366; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erendi.lastdot.org (79-65-25-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [79.65.25.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm5390737eyx.18.2009.04.05.05.40.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D8A6DF.1060805@lastdot.org> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:41:03 +0100 From: "lucian@lastdot.org" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49D89A2B.30906@lastdot.org> <4ad871310904050522h1483d1f7lbddd504fb9f5f9e4@mail.gmail.com> <49D8A3D9.30000@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D8A3D9.30000@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: range of IPs in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:41:00 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:46 AM, lucian@lastdot.org >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I need to use around 30 IPs on a freebsd 7 machine. Is there a way to >>> avoid >>> adding 30 lines of aliases in rc.conf? On RedHat/Centos I use this >>> trick: >>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/RangeOfIpsOnEthx >>> >> >> You could create a customized rc file (I personally use rc.local) >> which will be run at boot. You could then use #!/bin/sh and a 'for' >> loop to create the devices. >> >> IMHO, this solution is a lot uglier than 30 extra lines in rc.conf. >> > > If this is a contiguous range of IPs, then use the ipv4_addrs_ifN > construct, which you can read all about in rc.conf(5). Eg: > > ipv4_addrs_em0="192.168.64.33-63/24" > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Wow, great, that's what I was looking for! Thanks much, guys! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 12:53:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95272106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D115A8FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n35CrW4d023088; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:53:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n35CrUF6023085; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:53:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:53:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: snott In-Reply-To: <22889910.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: References: <22862006.post@talk.nabble.com> <22872988.post@talk.nabble.com> <22878294.post@talk.nabble.com> <22889910.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering partitions from disk image? *resolved* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:53:50 -0000 so write a short article about how you did this and why using "hardware RAID" solutions is bad, and put it on your website. it's AT LEAST funny that your hardware raid instead of protecting - rendered your data inaccessible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 13:53:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B7D1065672 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372608FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 48959 invoked by uid 89); 5 Apr 2009 13:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 13:54:20 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:53:37 -0400 To: nightrecon@verizon.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:53:43 -0000 >> >> The main app is MySQL. I don't think it is running, but can't really >> tell unless I can log in. >> >> I have backups, and while NYI is trying to get this box running, I'm >> setting up a new database server, just in case... >> > > If you were lucky having the guys at NYI login to single user mode > at the > console and run fsck in an attempt to clear up minor file system > damage > would have squared things away. MySQL is not real happy if there > has been fs > damage to the underlying files and their .bin logs. > > However, not being able to log in to a basic service like SSH is > not good. > Whether or not MySQL wants to come up SSH should still be working. > In the > end the guys at NYI are probably going to have to do a full system > load and > restore the last backup, and/or replace defective hardware. > > I have seen old hard drives in RAID arrays that had perked along > for years > show no hint of any problem. Power down the machine to do something > like > blow the dust out or stick in some more memory sticks and it won't > come up > again. Had I not powered down it may have happily run a while > longer. I have > seen drives fail like this before, especially when they are fairly > old. At > this stage you can only emit SIGH and replace/rebuild. > > But if the NYI guys are responsible for providing you with a > running system > the onus is on them to get it going again, at least up to a certain > point. > After that you would need to pick up and carry the ball the rest of > the way. Okay, so the machine is back online and I can log in again. The hardware is only 18 months old or so... good quality stuff, so hopefully nothing is physically damaged. We'll see... Unfortunately, mysql isn't working at the moment... will make a backup of data (I have the previous night's backup, of course, but would like the latest, if possible.) Then will try to figure out what's working and what's not. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 16:30:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42CD1065670 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uebershark@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CA88FC16 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uebershark@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1530510fxm.43 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PXrYeJ/FFRhdspMdiAgB2gK++E/jKFvUmsLf9hkB/g0=; b=Gl+LPMqFdlUd8VDjZteVKg2iU6CvnZtsvrz4uZPjKPiOLNWH8WUpXBm/+EU2fBI6+O eDTwuLghdsDdNT8BXdalNMZY9C1foFylPiMz9F59ZLpL4/UQ8fstkjMwYdFqJMatbS+b qEoLZTCjXiv9UfRf9csjUUtGWk2YW7JmwWGW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wJ7gawhtNORa0nHIl5vJjU5YLW1Gycjh7+fIvqXRgDWouKJGacTPwLxz8GTU0NtLtI 0ubgjsK6fHWtplyuSYopHeAv/Pe4LnbNlTSoxzNpRRLLgD9kEnj4Rk3xxU1dcx7fTs/l sqdS80hjrl6V62T/rMhgtKMvrHXJQ/NdNZaCg= Received: by 10.223.103.133 with SMTP id k5mr2858363fao.23.1238947653701; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ViciousVincent ([78.52.199.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm3083697fxm.60.2009.04.05.09.07.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:07:42 +0200 From: Tom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090405180742.542160fb@ViciousVincent> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ULI M526x NIC on *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:30:17 -0000 Hi, Is the ULI M526x NIC somehow supported with *BSD? The m526x belongs to the 'tulip'-family with the linux-kernel. Its not in the hardware compatibility list, so I'm not really counting on it, but what are the chances of seeing support? Is there maybe a way to 'port' the linux driver? I've heard about linux compatibility layer, but I suspect its not meant for linux kernel modules... Thanks for any pointers! Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 18:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE011065686 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601548FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LqWnQ-0000oy-Oc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:10:16 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:10:16 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:10:16 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:10:56 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:10:19 -0000 John Almberg wrote: [snip] > > Okay, so the machine is back online and I can log in again. > > The hardware is only 18 months old or so... good quality stuff, so > hopefully nothing is physically damaged. We'll see... > > Unfortunately, mysql isn't working at the moment... will make a > backup of data (I have the previous night's backup, of course, but > would like the latest, if possible.) Then will try to figure out > what's working and what's not. > Check the machine-hostname.err file when you manually try and start MySQL. Provided that you have mysql_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf you should be able to manually attempt to start with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start (it seems to work reliably when you type out the entire command path-wise). Note that if somehow permissions on the my.cnf file got changed MySQL won't start if my.cnf is world writable. Check for stale PID and sockets. Normally these shouldn't be a problem as a startup will just overwrite them. Check these to eliminate any wonkiness, e.g. some permission change isn't allowing for MySQL to wipe the old ones. The whateverthehostname.err log and possibly /var/log/messages might give some clue for what's going on. If the database files are corrupt just clean them out and replace with a backup done with dump. Ensure the /var/db/mysql tree is chowned mysql:mysql. If you had to install/reinstall from ports the install should have created the appropriate uid/gid accounts. Check and see if these are missing. At any rate I wish you the best of luck. Now that you can SSH in you can probably fix it up. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 18:58:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30861065672 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB588FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1736205wfg.7 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S5YpHXCrkBDWkJEYxPdQMInoU2mRBPy18Nzpt7JHHgw=; b=eXURaeKSoDvSsfCBueut8gT4cviNSuzKKvFi0O1V6DknkpAslnU7uNTLOCxYWFKZDN iqAZ7xPK3K7BYedD1WkuDl3y4Xo656ct3KNJdN3jD7/rY3Bc5VpeNNRrFobKf1/u111R dz9k+3R025AkVjzFLgjRemwcufgF0E/LjlvCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ryai6m6M2c+FWfK2h+L+S3RPi16iV876vVmY2hBNPoCSpACln8gLeNuAkwbIstE/sq 3PIJm+AUsNEXNxHYRtFoq9qZXM4DYNnKqCw+ntBbqKFe4LJcRyhYuQPkwjcXhYubuOuH 8eh/j0eQDUhbbhCbC02WPK15rFNct4VMUMLtA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr1051832wfh.31.1238957926061; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:58:46 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660904051158s56ef5e82m51ca3c545770487@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: gmirror THEN geli, correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:58:47 -0000 List, I'm looking for a confirmation on the order: When setting up a (root partiton) gmirror+geli, what is the propper order? e.g: gmirror the disks and THEN initialize geli on the /dev/mirror partitions? Is this correct? Thanks. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 19:19:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12757106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D28FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 90118 invoked by uid 89); 5 Apr 2009 19:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.127.142.70?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.70) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 19:20:20 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:19:40 -0400 To: nightrecon@verizon.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:19:43 -0000 On Apr 5, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > John Almberg wrote: > > [snip] >> >> Okay, so the machine is back online and I can log in again. >> >> The hardware is only 18 months old or so... good quality stuff, so >> hopefully nothing is physically damaged. We'll see... >> >> Unfortunately, mysql isn't working at the moment... will make a >> backup of data (I have the previous night's backup, of course, but >> would like the latest, if possible.) Then will try to figure out >> what's working and what's not. >> > > Check the machine-hostname.err file when you manually try and start > MySQL. > Provided that you have mysql_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf you > should be able > to manually attempt to start with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server > start (it > seems to work reliably when you type out the entire command path- > wise). > > Note that if somehow permissions on the my.cnf file got changed > MySQL won't > start if my.cnf is world writable. Check for stale PID and sockets. > Normally > these shouldn't be a problem as a startup will just overwrite them. > Check > these to eliminate any wonkiness, e.g. some permission change isn't > allowing > for MySQL to wipe the old ones. > > The whateverthehostname.err log and possibly /var/log/messages > might give > some clue for what's going on. If the database files are corrupt > just clean > them out and replace with a backup done with dump. Ensure the /var/ > db/mysql > tree is chowned mysql:mysql. If you had to install/reinstall from > ports the > install should have created the appropriate uid/gid accounts. Check > and see > if these are missing. > > At any rate I wish you the best of luck. Now that you can SSH in > you can > probably fix it up. Well, I had to give up, temporarily, on this server to get my clients back online. I took a nice machine I had laying around, loaded a fresh copy of FreeBSD on it, installed mysql, and loaded the Saturday morning database backup. I had to set up all the database permissions correctly, which took some time, but I'm happy to say that I've got all my clients back online with this new database server. Now I am going to catch a couple hours sleep (this has been going on since 2 am). Once I restore some brain cells, I'll see if I can figure out what's happening with the main database server. NYI has taken it off line, for some reason, and I can't log into it anyway, at the moment. Thanks for all the helpful advice. It's great to have this list to fall back on in a crisis. Brgds: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 20:24:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998F71065675 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEC68FC14 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n35KOfu9012245; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E68EBA7E; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:24:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:24:41 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Modulok Message-ID: <20090405202441.GA88269@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <64c038660904051158s56ef5e82m51ca3c545770487@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038660904051158s56ef5e82m51ca3c545770487@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror THEN geli, correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:24:44 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 12:58:46PM -0600, Modulok wrote: > List, >=20 > I'm looking for a confirmation on the order: When setting up a (root > partiton) gmirror+geli, what is the propper order? e.g: gmirror the > disks and THEN initialize geli on the /dev/mirror partitions? Is this > correct? That works. I tried it.=20 But it felt slow. So I dropped the mirroring, and used rsync running from a cron job at night to keep the primary and secondary disks (with encrypted partitions) in sync.=20 This has a downside that my backup can be up to 24 hours out of date, but as a plus it provides me with an up to 24 hour window to recover accidentally deleted files. from the second disk. :-) It's a good tradeoff, IMO. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknZE4kACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWVNwCghDXDYcZEqBb9racySTSXJwKd II0AnR8suwzmccKXXOZ1rKvDvGSvGzxc =s24I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 20:40:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3D31065676 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01DA8FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1581149ewy.43 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/SsWm7Hvjg/2SqmL3dxAihJmHlU+pIqOo8N5mRWmPX8=; b=bVbUGfZj8qr7bHeUVga1goLVn7MTBxxmcV6PYuujeLINLiSVH6zILNHCnLF41whJUJ ucu69y0ionf8+xIKA/FQRYj0dYotlDDZRT7Wh2+6C0Cyffuv7aAlYiS4b+LtBUdrVglm 6xf64EKCit0+ljrO6K/fVAD326f80tIhtvBL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n2ftfgr5+ld6bXqJQ5UEZaEIxZstjwSUXnJWglOTPw2/iPeg9OfQ7anZZhVmsFwMup CPImbNfgpecSkagIFVYrLOp2DJHpFhxm1o97GRzzTOjTW/eM06VhnueXm+/NjkmvWovi 1lew4Wude0WCynexmRy1H8SWmtgjfnLwVgXnc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.18.8 with SMTP id 8mr2762682ebr.27.1238964052102; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , olli@lurza.secnetix.de, ertr1013@student.uu.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:40:54 -0000 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme : > Chris Rees wrote: > =A0> 2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar : > =A0> > > =A0> > IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all > =A0> > =A0> Why? > > Google "background fsck damage". > > I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn > background fsck off. =A0If your disks are large and you > can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which > has a lot of benefits besides not requiring fsck. > > Best regards > =A0 Oliver > Right... You were bitten by background fsck, what _exactly_ happened? All the 'problems' here associated with bgfsck are referring to FreeBSD 4 etc, or incredibly vague anecdotal evidence. Have you googled for background fsck damage? Nothing (in the first two pages at least) even suggests that background fsck causes damage. Erik Trulsson wrote: > Normal PATA/SATA disks with write caching enabled (which is the default) = do > not provide these guarantees. Disabling write caching on will make them > adhere to the assumptions that soft updates make, but at the cost of a > severe performance penalty when writing to the disks. > In short therefore on a 'typical' PC you can fairly easily get errors on = a > filesystem which background fsck cannot handle. What do you mean by handle? Sure, it won't fix them, but it'll at least detect them. The chances of actually having a problem are slim, anyway, and it won't cause any damage either. Please don't assert information or stories about being 'bitten', without being more specific. It's meaningless and frustrating; I didn't ask who was bitten, I asked what the problem was. Also, please don't tell me to search the Internet without checking the search results for relevance yourself. I've spent a long time researching this, as have the FreeBSD devs, and they chose to make it on by default with no warnings. From the petty things they DO warn about, I very much doubt they'd allow something with a chance of any data corruption slide like that. Concrete evidence or direct links to problems with FreeBSD >6.0 ONLY in response please. Or, no-one has proven any reason for distrust, and all you lot are spreading is FUD. Sorry for the rant, it's not directly aimed at any of you, just the general assertion of 'facts' with no evidence, Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 22:24:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830F51065673 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386B88FC14 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1439833qwb.7 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:24:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5HN47BxIe6Yj7NXLoywQAnbbjfGAh4jTzUU6oCABNDE=; b=wWektV8G0YdPZ48Tf5S6GrrDl9PTYHujIB7zL3vpT7yHmwhPhTQNWV2ccCgSWAiOg/ ikyzMtT1uxzuNtdoCwZqKR3NM18UhgLTmS8H9bsaYgw5omHGqeAeV1qc+Z+etT4GjRSm o+ChRZlDoCM90x9GQSD901G3Jsdm3yKJv8zhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZFYYcpuAell5sfo8y6Oeyor3usA0fjFvC/IHfBJNiMkEQd9hAXZjatM2pcjkTmGnBK HM2Xn0T2mhIcccoAzOcKi/x1czUIl4vYN9uw6xMu5eMlbLxQWdtJCMDIdpOLQnIFIEee 5vTp+OiKUEQwKOwZ7uzFfcfNAAMLu0lg6DhlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.129 with SMTP id z1mr791432qcm.22.1238970277446; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:24:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: utisoft@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Wojciech Puchar , olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:24:39 -0000 2009/4/5 Chris Rees : > 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme : >> Chris Rees wrote: >> =A0> 2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar : >> =A0> > >> =A0> > IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all >> =A0> >> =A0> Why? >> >> Google "background fsck damage". >> >> I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn >> background fsck off. =A0If your disks are large and you >> can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which >> has a lot of benefits besides not requiring fsck. >> >> Best regards >> =A0 Oliver >> > > Right... You were bitten by background fsck, what _exactly_ happened? > All the 'problems' here associated with bgfsck are referring to > FreeBSD 4 etc, or incredibly vague anecdotal evidence. Have you > googled for background fsck damage? Nothing (in the first two pages at > least) even suggests that background fsck causes damage. > > Erik Trulsson wrote: >> Normal PATA/SATA disks with write caching enabled (which is the default)= do >> not provide these guarantees. =A0Disabling write caching on will make th= em >> adhere to the assumptions that soft updates make, but at the cost of a >> severe performance penalty when writing to the disks. > >> In short therefore on a 'typical' PC you can fairly easily get errors on= a >> filesystem which background fsck cannot handle. > > What do you mean by handle? Sure, it won't fix them, but it'll at > least detect them. The chances of actually having a problem are slim, > anyway, and it won't cause any damage either. > > This is exactly my experience: maybe three times in years of various power failures and hardware barfs have I had the background fsck tell me to run fsck manually. And that is the entire extent of the "failure". The system was running normally, if a bit slowly from the fsck itself, and the worst result was a disappeared /var/db/pkg directory (which had nothing to do with fsck being in the background on restart). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 22:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE474106566C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ADC8FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1441093qwb.7 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzSe2V4I5/J7wEypsN6oFQYMp2fssIQVuVUPk6Ig3nU=; b=B2Kkma+DBmo7VifzQ2Ag0ccbaUVq3MU2BGW2DOeP55ok4GlHFF52kE1IgPddi0nAFh xNl2OAimke38kAB6mxtsi8fbsSSVncbKKUhrzAFh79Vv5OYAYpwpBUGJl6JNmtFjlxYn iRRbYq/VAl6Mgx0ElV2985Oa4Nt7VBAkPtGeU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bup/gb8+4Mg2S7KoUTxrbSZ3fqeBfdXoa2DXQNcfR1pDjRzKId9mrzTHDe2lg9ESJ3 LztRfaPr+VJ/uf+n/XL9vUVd7QN8GY5LXxAXsgKr6N9azabsFopbdI9Sd715TAq68EMD zbRBdHZnLE20gP6IArXFVzybSBCXOMhiMWz98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.84.213 with SMTP id k21mr796128qcl.19.1238969637535; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:13:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Peter Wang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:34:13 -0000 2009/4/5 Peter Wang : > > for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd > release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. > > so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? > thanks for your replies. > % which adduser /usr/sbin/adduser Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src rather than /usr/ports. Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably better on freebsd-questions than current. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 22:49:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537AD106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D08FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n35MoT7v014089 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:20 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:49:25 -0000 Somebody thoughtfully posted a location where we could download a package of OOo-3.01 for the i386 recently. I thought that I had bookmarked that site that began "ooo" and had built packages for the openoffice suite. One, can anybody give the the correct URL? I'll burn it into my forearm this time! I want any/all the addons or plugins, and the mozilla browser would be a plus. thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 23:33:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6561065673 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC3B8FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090405233324.QTZ19140.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.2.102]>; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:33:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:33:22 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: illoai@gmail.com, Peter Wang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:33:26 -0000 --On April 5, 2009 6:13:57 PM -0400 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > 2009/4/5 Peter Wang : >> >> for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd >> release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. >> >> so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? >> thanks for your replies. >> > > % which adduser > /usr/sbin/adduser > > Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src > rather than /usr/ports. > > Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably > better on freebsd-questions than current. I think you misunderstood his question. This would be one way to do it: find /usr/ports/ -type f -exec grep -sq adduser {} \; -print Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 23:16:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C80A106564A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163538FC08 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EBA19017; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:16:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:16:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:16:14 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: utisoft@gmail.com Message-ID: <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:32:38 +0000 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:16:25 -0000 On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme : > > Chris Rees wrote: > > =A0> 2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar : > > =A0> > > > =A0> > IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all > > =A0> > > =A0> Why? > > > > Google "background fsck damage". > > > > I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn > > background fsck off. =A0If your disks are large and you > > can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which > > has a lot of benefits besides not requiring fsck. > > > > Best regards > > =A0 Oliver > > >=20 > Right... You were bitten by background fsck, what _exactly_ happened? > All the 'problems' here associated with bgfsck are referring to > FreeBSD 4 etc, or incredibly vague anecdotal evidence. Have you > googled for background fsck damage? Nothing (in the first two pages at > least) even suggests that background fsck causes damage. > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=3Dbackground+fsck+corruption You'll find the first few results are about panics during background fsck resulting in an endless cycle of boot-panic-reboot, which don't occur with foreground fsck. And at least the first result is from 6.x. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 01:41:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A82106564A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CDF8FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1180350and.13 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cjae/zgGNoZi6XAxgWRUlC2NW185RQd/0XIPkM9ZRIo=; b=TseDWVh8sQ+OFT3KKFhZqerkal66xOCM3aP8CPd+nRoFR/XozthcRSMJOzxu5XD4OM WdPHCOa+fF78RRvzRliP7VRU/3Gdk6vmCsHx4jZcDh3//FuHSE6ACEjZ6LzKVzYj2X90 UQGmjgz/dhXQpN70bR3ZphMi3xaQFQqi4V/8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0OEdMdbiHsxcNpUE6kBiBmWXCur5eu3ZfLOBTFXuaCGq08iZhUjA3qChyfI+QW/q7 /H9K0GlUchdqXmHU3F2vr7sgkTNlkO+UaYPlsqADKD8V+Loa71O2M6twRJaJleHwkZ5u ArsT42iLhZKrGJoFkJVkgKabgtdmPRfH5ZYFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.58.19 with SMTP id g19mr2556420ana.92.1238982096479; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:41:37 -0000 Hi, Gary On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Somebody thoughtfully posted a location where we could dow= nload a > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0package of OOo-3.01 for the i386 recently. =A0I thought th= at I had > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0bookmarked that site that began "ooo" and had built packag= es for > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the openoffice suite. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0One, can anybody give the the correct URL? =A0I'll burn it= into my > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0forearm this time! =A0I want any/all the addons or plugins= , and the > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mozilla browser would be a plus. > There are two primary places I am aware of: http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/#obtain ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ HTH. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 02:09:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23E9106564A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com (web.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35638FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by web.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lqbng-0001nm-GB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:30:52 -0300 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:30:52 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Exemys Message-ID: <12c6d7c9cc30e36fe07d5a57b490e6fb@www.hostmailing.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Modbus I/O Module - Analog / Digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:09:31 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 02:10:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC7D1065725 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4048FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n362BVnE015486; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:10:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:10:31 -0000 On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:41:36PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi, Gary > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >        Somebody thoughtfully posted a location where we could download a > >        package of OOo-3.01 for the i386 recently.  I thought that I had > >        bookmarked that site that began "ooo" and had built packages for > >        the openoffice suite. > > > >        One, can anybody give the the correct URL?  I'll burn it into my > >        forearm this time!  I want any/all the addons or plugins, and the > >        mozilla browser would be a plus. > > > > There are two primary places I am aware of: > > http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/#obtain > > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ > > HTH. well, it wouldve if there were a 3.0.1 d/load for 7.1, but nope. so far, none of us has been willing to volunteer the months/years to build a 7.1 version for the i386. i'm down to 5GB of freespace and oo fails after a few hours. can't figure out how/where all my diskspace went to.... but that's offtopic. tx, gary > > -- > Glen Barber -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 02:14:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23F0106566B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B708FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1228416ywh.13 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6rYQAIqcenjcFSOfFv9Xt8DtTDrmMVo7MDyKrFI0jWQ=; b=sMKT5T0aVW8RcLEnTI9+hLrg8sAEvLhT1RPwIAJusgBdI7SwxpbANDSwliDq8zc/O3 z1UGbMn3KUEnYrKKSjENjlJEAat6JQ0xLyFuMCCTlchP+EJXDphJZ+tqPTOfiOvuDtD1 vjKEQxGUUkezUT/W4DHMD77DtTEEeoS76hLto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mbWR+aot/XISjxBL4HbFllT1alGoPWIHb/CffqrB1UrCYI9kwnAH7PddPbkrIv/dzi c99KbOhLYRnmRGpgur+eSop0EUKzEPH2rfCvc8sov8yj2MRoucP1KkC7uJrFs2B2Xmsc 1eO4S+BVtZzJB8gCf/INhObR9ye3Fbua2wZ4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.138.17 with SMTP id l17mr5784577and.80.1238984098626; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:14:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904051914w476d3033j573e773cd5e3411b@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:15:00 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0well, it wouldve if there were a 3.0.1 d/load for 7.1, but= nope. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0so far, none of us has been willing to volunteer the month= s/years > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to build a 7.1 version for the i386. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0i'm down to 5GB of freespace and oo fails after a few hour= s. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0can't figure out how/where all my diskspace went to.... bu= t > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0that's offtopic. > Tell you what. I'm running 7-STABLE right now, so if I were to build the package it may be incompatible with some things. Once 7.2 is -RELEASE, I'll build a GNOME and KDE version and put them up on my site. (I know that doesn't fix your *need* now, but I will take the time when the time is right.) Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 02:57:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C32D106564A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from makefile@yeah.net) Received: from m85-52.yeah.net (m85-52.yeah.net [60.191.85.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8B738FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from makefile@yeah.net) Received: from makefile ( [221.226.45.140] ) by ajax-webmail-app3 (Coremail) ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:27:03 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:27:03 +0800 (CST) From: makefile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <23472841.314151238984823758.JavaMail.coremail@yeahapp3.yeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [221.226.45.140] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version XT_Ux_snapshot build 090220(6716.2201.2159) Copyright (c) 2002-2009 www.mailtech.cn yeah X-CM-TRANSID: NFUQrLCbvD94aNlJdD4fAA--.14197W X-CM-SenderInfo: ppdnvwxlohq5hhdkh0dhw/1tbiBwY84Ul0sqmdXgABs4 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U50xBIdaVrnW8YjxAI6xCIbckI1I0E57IF64kEYxAxMc804V CqF7xvr2I5M4IEnf9ElVAFpTB2q-sK649IAas0WaI_GwCS07vEb7Iv0xC_Jr1lV2xY67kC 6x804xWlV2xY67C26xCjj4IEw4AK0wCS07vE1I0EscIYIxCEI4klw4CSwwCS07vE5I8CrV ACY4xI64kE6c02F40Ex7xfMIAIbVAv7VCjz48v1sIEY20_JwCS07vE4x8a6x804xWlV2xY 6I8E67AF67kF1VAFwI0_Jr0_JrDvcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gbk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: keyboard and USE mouse have no response in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:57:54 -0000 My computer is Thinkpad R61i 7732BGC.My system is FreeBSD-7.2-BETA1. Everything was fine in the console.Both the keyboard and USB mouse can not work in the X.I don't know why. But the USE mouse still can not work in the X. I say my keyboard can not work,because I can not use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X,and there is no response in X whether I type anything.If I type Alt+F1,just go back to the consol where I startx. I tried to a way what I just heard.Use sysinstall to set the mouse daemon disabled,and change /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Just change to "Protocol": Option "Protocol" "/dev/usm0" But my USB mouse still can not work.Also my keyboard. I need a help.I am a novice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 03:51:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F101065675 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D3E8FC19 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so3355247qyk.3 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:51:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=evmYoRsgaTwA4YuOC5ml4QQyPNSYKLuClkif2wIZG9g=; b=n/5S6duACxmTKYnltcUL8i4e8T4Pr0nGHpG+IvD2pWOVTzfZTnEZ13W4UMqeBAb8r4 m6vWp9JBWUYYmRJJY2pXyTb3gDM0Qra0r+TiIK7GgKpj1oRVLYRRKT9LgEEpSFBeG7Jq 8UE92KiGFzURIR9IssUf6/QQypZPUJaFpq9c8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ah57OIZcAp92/fRxmaxTmxAcRf6TEgJzbbSrfsIoffO+403PGT0xOqG2XCIjJcwwgl jFI/lJzf/s0Mw1EJwOHbAIOalD+tX8E/81rprTtuoMVM5MHO9S78YnzSG61hDN/0VPiE 28x0TcbMPrF0u4mwajblqMpWhTbTVJcXBhqNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:51:24 -0600 Received: by 10.220.70.210 with SMTP id e18mr2978087vcj.24.1238989900331; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:51:41 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:41:36PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > Hi, Gary > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Somebody thoughtfully posted a location where we could download > a > > > package of OOo-3.01 for the i386 recently. I thought that I had > > > bookmarked that site that began "ooo" and had built packages for > > > the openoffice suite. > > > > > > One, can anybody give the the correct URL? I'll burn it into my > > > forearm this time! I want any/all the addons or plugins, and > the > > > mozilla browser would be a plus. > > > > > > > There are two primary places I am aware of: > > > > http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/#obtain > > > > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ > > > > HTH. > > > well, it wouldve if there were a 3.0.1 d/load for 7.1, but nope. > so far, none of us has been willing to volunteer the months/years > to build a 7.1 version for the i386. > > i'm down to 5GB of freespace and oo fails after a few hours. > can't figure out how/where all my diskspace went to.... but > that's offtopic. > > tx, > > gary I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my top always said <=50% CPU usage I left the default options, but it won't create a package.. policykit Updated +CONTENTS and retrying... success. 97 package files created to support openoffice. I have test servers up periodically and would offer it for an unknown period of time. I'll notify you when it's up. > > > > > > > -- > > Glen Barber > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 03:55:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9731065672 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D518FC14 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1202232and.13 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:55:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kb5RQDV7nK9xJc8wiZPns2qL+sa3KnaNgaqpiTuntrA=; b=f1fL8aMuFt8njT6A3ce4UkM0wT9Y/hKzV9seVLnd/q0d5vIWWhWWPTf4o5+0qXrs/1 wpdeaHyVB+1tb/6PEraqT7b54cpbi+NkKvicAJE6e6iinmrTZptYZXhuSyXfl0KtYxfJ 8xVwchyJ0nuYNRyWXhcwlT6qaz+25k03tRJPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vKjzLuVkIZrUO+SxYP7dX8WOIMg4tWephdMfoOIVDcbNijY+rsKg0J4etSMU6jWNqp 4KLkR0AiyZiTqxkJsbfA4NDR554jvNL2LwtcC6B3SAfCffYZU33tO905oKY+vjFYc0Mi kaS01VcdzvQOYUtQLMP0kGw0To6hJb8ipCeAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.15 with SMTP id 15mr7293872ane.50.1238990118475; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:55:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:55:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904052055s37461e33lc0ef88485712c2df@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:55:19 -0000 Hi, Tim. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > On my dual-core system at work,=A0 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 6600=A0 @ > 2.40GHz > > > Took about 4 hours.=A0 It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU...=A0 my top = always > said <=3D50% CPU usage > > I left the default options, but it won't create a package..=A0 policykit > Updated +CONTENTS and retrying... > > success.=A0 97 package files created to support openoffice. > > > I have test servers up periodically and would offer it for an unknown per= iod of time. I'll notify you when it's up. I'll race you. :) Seriously, though. This is something I've been meaning to do, but just haven't had time. Since 7.2-R is "upcoming", I figured that'd be the perfect time, and now I have the web hosting for the package(s). Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 04:02:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D34106566B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A44A8FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:02:44 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PRA68667; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:02:08 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:02:07 -0400 To: Tim Judd In-Reply-To: References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Gary Kline , Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:02:45 -0000 Tim Judd writes: > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ > 2.40GHz > > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my > top always said <=50% CPU usage For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 04:05:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1B1106566C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8EB8FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so3359774qyk.3 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:05:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/tfWGi/nkHSVTRfxsHwUDYYVVqWDIVB03PcQADc7XD8=; b=nDbp/E33xTo8N7xT8+jY8XUOd76qscNUMVJSE68wFKIOmJmOb/nLkkNjlLrpgoDrBA nc/eIKiSoYa9k8tkU9ueMRLjGv+mFCRb+wKz+IfPtjJYTCOX2Q9RY8RqcRZqxHby94sF Ajl+51nfJmM1btAyDmAcwbrOIT93RBU9fgtKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ImFmQ2JViDA3T7oJ/80BZE+53B87ikexLqq0gOU8HDKfBC1OWF4dsWfhLJVMC0o6+c OAdafaYMbpo9GSEx9vE+iqtM/cySxkX5x7tAp6zkNfXYqRuJf3yyYx1YwlbXFFkTlMW3 cdVBDktBLXvT0oEBbneYm5SjBY4h5fXTORPQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:05:00 -0600 Received: by 10.220.70.213 with SMTP id e21mr3197185vcj.93.1238990715428; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Kline , Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:05:17 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Tim Judd writes: > > > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > > > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ > > 2.40GHz > > > > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my > > top always said <=50% CPU usage > > For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded > with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. > Well, I had full Xorg 7.4, KDE4 and partial gnome2 installed when I built openoffice. I am pretty sure if I have to do everything from scratch is where the "days" would come into play. > > > Robert Huff > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 04:21:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ED21065670 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BC58FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1494770qwb.7 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cU8zrpSmsdnNtflfoEsva4bQ9Pn2eaAKNrPj57dRm4I=; b=J/W69frYNbL62WYrNLqRKVjh/PeT0GaT9C5qmWigekUSehdpT28qjomxxMyQgJImPn 8pimKRlTxHfjTSfgDHUuaPn3uFi0pp4SBb+nzxiBtZ5/rsD6t/4gaCMyRdONmYFPTk8h yA231kmVtfdgKQNQ+1QtHKTBLhJqCHM0CMxXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SzCbMcsDoSmbNwG6uAUMdR/nMiWYrp00ZTyKWU8RuFJFen/50TBFKdvuSVTQ4oELhu TytNxpb8eMayVscjXZ6GNZnqGtUSY4idi/I6Mbn1ZuAowZfiFUV9oePSqovCRyqsovwp Da1YHnH7h+IN37brXAPfRcTLjsJgTa8/VIE/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:21:23 -0600 Received: by 10.220.99.205 with SMTP id v13mr3125137vcn.105.1238991698439; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:21:40 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > >> >> Tim Judd writes: >> >> > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. >> > >> > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 >> @ >> > 2.40GHz >> > >> > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my >> > top always said <=50% CPU usage >> >> For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded >> with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. >> > > > Well, I had full Xorg 7.4, KDE4 and partial gnome2 installed when I built > openoffice. I am pretty sure if I have to do everything from scratch is > where the "days" would come into play. > Reference - dependency list for OOo 3.0.1 package, 7.1-R i386: Information for openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz: Depends on: Dependency: xineramaproto-1.1.2 Dependency: xextproto-7.0.5 Dependency: renderproto-0.9.3 Dependency: randrproto-1.2.1 Dependency: printproto-1.0.4 Dependency: kbproto-1.0.3 Dependency: inputproto-1.5.0 Dependency: fixesproto-4.0 Dependency: damageproto-1.1.0_2 Dependency: compositeproto-0.4 Dependency: font-util-1.0.1 Dependency: encodings-1.0.2,1 Dependency: expat-2.0.1 Dependency: policykit-0.9_4 Dependency: gnome_subr-1.0 Dependency: dmidecode-2.10 Dependency: openldap-client-2.4.15_1 Dependency: pciids-20090224 Dependency: hicolor-icon-theme-0.10_2 Dependency: gnomehier-2.3_11 Dependency: python25-2.5.4_1 Dependency: xcb-proto-1.4 Dependency: perl-5.8.9_2 Dependency: png-1.2.35 Dependency: jpeg-6b_7 Dependency: tiff-3.8.2_3 Dependency: jasper-1.900.1_7 Dependency: pkg-config-0.23_1 Dependency: libtasn1-1.8 Dependency: libart_lgpl-2.3.20,1 Dependency: pixman-0.14.0 Dependency: freetype2-2.3.7 Dependency: fontconfig-2.6.0,1 Dependency: bitstream-vera-1.10_4 Dependency: xproto-7.0.15 Dependency: libfontenc-1.0.4 Dependency: mkfontscale-1.0.6 Dependency: mkfontdir-1.0.4 Dependency: font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0 Dependency: font-misc-meltho-1.0.0_1 Dependency: font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 Dependency: xorg-fonts-truetype-7.4 Dependency: libICE-1.0.4_1,1 Dependency: libSM-1.1.0_1,1 Dependency: libXdmcp-1.0.2_1 Dependency: libXau-1.0.4 Dependency: pcre-7.8 Dependency: libvolume_id-0.81.1 Dependency: libpthread-stubs-0.1 Dependency: libxcb-1.2 Dependency: xcb-util-0.3.3 Dependency: libX11-1.2,1 Dependency: libXt-1.0.5_1 Dependency: libXrender-0.9.4_1 Dependency: cairo-1.8.6_1,1 Dependency: libXft-2.1.13 Dependency: libXfixes-4.0.3_1 Dependency: libXcursor-1.1.9_1 Dependency: libXdamage-1.1.1 Dependency: libXext-1.0.5,1 Dependency: libXcomposite-0.4.0,1 Dependency: libXinerama-1.0.3,1 Dependency: libXi-1.2.1,1 Dependency: libXrandr-1.2.3 Dependency: libXpm-3.5.7 Dependency: libXp-1.0.0,1 Dependency: libXmu-1.0.4,1 Dependency: libXaw-1.0.5_1,1 Dependency: libdaemon-0.12 Dependency: gdbm-1.8.3_3 Dependency: libiconv-1.11_1 Dependency: samba-libsmbclient-3.0.34_1 Dependency: libxml2-2.7.3 Dependency: dbus-1.2.4.4 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 Dependency: gnome-mime-data-2.18.0_3 Dependency: libgpg-error-1.7 Dependency: libgcrypt-1.4.4 Dependency: gnutls-2.6.4 Dependency: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Dependency: glib-2.18.4 Dependency: gamin-0.1.10 Dependency: gio-fam-backend-2.18.4 Dependency: desktop-file-utils-0.15_1 Dependency: libIDL-0.8.13 Dependency: ORBit2-2.14.17 Dependency: pango-1.22.4 Dependency: shared-mime-info-0.60 Dependency: dbus-glib-0.80 Dependency: consolekit-0.3.0_5 Dependency: avahi-app-0.6.24_1 Dependency: hal-0.5.11_21 Dependency: atk-1.24.0 Dependency: gtk-2.14.7_1 Dependency: gconf2-2.24.0 Dependency: gnome-vfs-2.24.1 I'm not sure why there's so much depenencies, but if anyone wants me to post it, I want to know. Having 1 is equal to an infinity, so if only one person asks to post it, I'll put it up for a while. > > > >> >> >> Robert Huff >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 04:24:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6D106566C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4D8FC17 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:24:35 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KTN58565; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:24:34 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18905.33793.899705.125789@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:24:33 -0400 To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:24:36 -0000 Tim Judd writes: > > > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > > > > > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ > > > 2.40GHz > > > > > > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my > > > top always said <=50% CPU usage > > > > For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded > > with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. > > Well, I had full Xorg 7.4, KDE4 and partial gnome2 installed when I built > openoffice. I had all dependencies pre-installed; that 30+ is all for OpenOffice. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 04:46:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE00106566B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2D98FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:46:08 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PRA73850; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 00:45:51 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18905.35071.181871.437245@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:45:51 -0400 To: Tim Judd In-Reply-To: References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:46:09 -0000 Tim Judd writes: > Reference - dependency list for OOo 3.0.1 package, 7.1-R i386: > I'm not sure why there's so much depenencies, but if anyone wants > me to post it, I want to know. Because OOo declines to re-invent the wheel? Some of these are easy to understand if you know almost nothing about programming - the fonts for example. Others, like cairo, pango, expat, and CUPS, are established libraries for dealing with things like text input/rendering, graphics, and printing. "gtk" is the GUI tookkit. What I don't understand is things like pciids-20090224. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 07:14:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF9A1065674 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE3F8FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n367FIxV017665; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:14:09 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090406071409.GA20705@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <4ad871310904051914w476d3033j573e773cd5e3411b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904051914w476d3033j573e773cd5e3411b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:14:15 -0000 On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 10:14:58PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >        well, it wouldve if there were a 3.0.1 d/load for 7.1, but nope. > >        so far, none of us has been willing to volunteer the months/years > >        to build a 7.1 version for the i386. > > > >        i'm down to 5GB of freespace and oo fails after a few hours. > >        can't figure out how/where all my diskspace went to.... but > >        that's offtopic. > > > > Tell you what. I'm running 7-STABLE right now, so if I were to build > the package it may be incompatible with some things. Once 7.2 is > -RELEASE, I'll build a GNOME and KDE version and put them up on my > site. (I know that doesn't fix your *need* now, but I will take the > time when the time is right.) > > Regards, Sounds like a win++. Hopefully, by then KDE-4 will be working completely; that may be where at least some of my space got lost, :-). Not entirely sure. gary > > -- > Glen Barber -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 07:23:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110401065672 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B657F8FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n367Oei8017761; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:23:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090406072331.GB20705@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:23:39 -0000 On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:51:24PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:41:36PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > > Hi, Gary > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > Somebody thoughtfully posted a location where we could download > > a > > > > package of OOo-3.01 for the i386 recently. I thought that I had > > > > bookmarked that site that began "ooo" and had built packages for > > > > the openoffice suite. > > > > > > > > One, can anybody give the the correct URL? I'll burn it into my > > > > forearm this time! I want any/all the addons or plugins, and > > the > > > > mozilla browser would be a plus. > > > > > > > > > > There are two primary places I am aware of: > > > > > > http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/#obtain > > > > > > ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ > > > > > > HTH. > > > > > > well, it wouldve if there were a 3.0.1 d/load for 7.1, but nope. > > so far, none of us has been willing to volunteer the months/years > > to build a 7.1 version for the i386. > > > > i'm down to 5GB of freespace and oo fails after a few hours. > > can't figure out how/where all my diskspace went to.... but > > that's offtopic. > > > > tx, > > > > gary > > > > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ > 2.40GHz > > > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my top always > said <=50% CPU usage tHis was with a Dual?! I want to fold two desktops into one and am thinking of buying/building an Intel quad. Something that will be powerful enough to still be very good in years to come. Would like people's thoughts of this. Hopeless it can be a reasoned discussion... . > > I left the default options, but it won't create a package.. policykit > Updated +CONTENTS and retrying... > > success. 97 package files created to support openoffice. > > > I have test servers up periodically and would offer it for an unknown period > of time. I'll notify you when it's up. > great, thank you. gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Glen Barber > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > Unix > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 08:03:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820A01065688 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perl-xml-bounces@listserv.ActiveState.com) Received: from mx.activestate.com (mx.activestate.com [204.244.102.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EAB8FC21 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perl-xml-bounces@listserv.ActiveState.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx.activestate.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759C1807F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:41:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: perl-xml-bounces@listserv.ActiveState.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:40:43 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: perl-xml@listserv.ActiveState.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: perl-xml-bounces@listserv.ActiveState.com Errors-To: perl-xml-bounces@listserv.ActiveState.com Cc: Subject: Your message to Perl-XML awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:03:26 -0000 Your mail to 'Perl-XML' with the subject Returned mail: Data format error Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/confirm/perl-xml/cdde41e2b7075c395ffc479ce131e927364e0398 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 09:42:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC791065677 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDEE8FC23 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lql5C-0003op-Gp; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:25:34 +0200 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lql53-0000Kr-FF; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:25:25 +0200 Received: from [192.168.13.82] (iPod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.82]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B05839849; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:25:15 +0200 (CEST) References: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> Message-Id: <08809CCC-DED8-43E6-B970-8E6A7F158540@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:25:14 +0200 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Lql53-0000Kr-FF X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.599, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Peter Wang , "illoai@gmail.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:42:11 -0000 On 6 apr 2009, at 01:33, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On April 5, 2009 6:13:57 PM -0400 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> 2009/4/5 Peter Wang : >>> >>> for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd >>> release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. >>> >>> so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? >>> thanks for your replies. >>> >> >> % which adduser >> /usr/sbin/adduser >> >> Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src >> rather than /usr/ports. >> >> Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably >> better on freebsd-questions than current. > > I think you misunderstood his question. > > This would be one way to do it: > > find /usr/ports/ -type f -exec grep -sq adduser {} \; -print How about man pkg_info From memory: pkg_info -W /usr/sbin/adduser Peter > > > Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already > obvious, my opinions are my own > and not those of my employer. > ****************************************** > WARNING: Check the headers before replying > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 10:43:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1161065680 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53C68FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090406104342.SMSZ3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:43:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.3] ([24.176.107.223]) by imp09 with charter.net id cAjh1b00C4pDbjL05Ajhet; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:43:42 -0400 Message-Id: From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:43:41 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: mergemaster options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:43:50 -0000 Hi, I'm upgrading form 4.6-RELEASE to 4.6-STABLE. When I get to the *second* run of mergemaster (after installworld), I'd be interested to hear the list's comments on using options to start mergemaster. For example, have you had good luck with: mergemaster -i -u (install any files that don't already exist, and attempt to install any files that haven't been user-modified) Also, what is the first line of a file used for? What parts of the OS 'care' about that line? What would happen if I kept the existing file below, with it's older date and version #? (This is just a made-up example). keep this existing file: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.3 1999/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ my custom line blah delete this (fake) temporary file: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.4 2000/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ blah blah I hope that's clear...? -- Later, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 10:55:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC1E10656CA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3407ead26=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA88B8FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3407ead26=a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 12:25:22 +0200 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.187]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:25:21 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:25:21 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36APLnD001525; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36APLGL001524; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:25:21 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Vincent Hoffman Message-ID: <20090406102521.GA1452@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20090403122829.GA2201@aurora.oekb.co.at> <49D624D1.1040101@unsane.co.uk> <20090403193934.GA3711@aurora.oekb.co.at> <49D67C86.80101@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49D67C86.80101@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 10:25:21.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDA8AE50:01C9B6A1] Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Symantec Netbackup under 7.1 - Undefined symbol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:55:04 -0000 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:15:50PM +0100, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > > > Fair point, I had a bit more of a think, I'd now guess that it looks > like a 32/64 bit problem, its a 32bit binary on a 64 bit system and its > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 complaining not /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 whch is odd. > do you have the lib32 compat stuff installed, does > /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 exist on your system? if not you can add it via > sysinstall -> configure -> Distributions -> lib32. Hi, Here's what the binaries in question point to: # ldd ./bplist ./bplist: libkvm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libkvm.so.2 (0x280d1000) libstdc++.so.4 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libstdc++.so.4 (0x280d7000) libm.so.3 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libm.so.3 (0x281b4000) libc.so.5 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.5 (0x281cf000) # All of these libraires exist: # ls -l /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 170944 Apr 2 20:16 /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 # ls -l /usr/local/lib32/compat/libkvm.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 24957 Mar 30 13:19 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libkvm.so.2 # ls -l /usr/local/lib32/compat/libstdc++.so.4 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1102049 Mar 30 13:19 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libstdc++.so.4 # ls -l /usr/local/lib32/compat/libm.so.3 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 126743 Mar 30 13:19 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libm.so.3 # ls -l /usr/lib32/libc.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1047956 Mar 24 14:32 /usr/lib32/libc.so.5 # So it's even more strange to me that "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1" complains about the undefined symbol "__h_error" Is there any way to track this down furhter? BTW, note I've got /usr/ports/misc/compat5x installed which "pkg_info" displays as " compat5x-amd64-5.4.0.8_9" -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 11:16:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32E41065B8A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AEA8FC24 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1551335qwb.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:16:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HpQL4u5oGIHN2VUfh4yppPxE6PEzhfYisXTR7/FtPEM=; b=wsyUHvGUtufwI/Qgp3/G52LpE8lT5KKddUwzqnJWFR2IvyYEKiYg6esAlVYfKR3mxd p+uzc4eYCII00Jw0tC23MRoAXVWMLlDGr5A1EbidZi+chNZj62M7zX0G6u38W+CD4jas 2KdWyJN8uSvDZQdDEBrp/VJAsX4Y2a4NjkSXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FJwTw+mesgCLQNU3fWj/ZVfM1tgeZtAE0mZAEzRpFuLJGHSr3aIEPLg7EZJo7YkxVE SMPbi/tQZUaBvnXMOR19U5rFWCu1LuUcHAk+H+0YsV8/r/Z/gl8yKl3ejzJzY09b5NtZ Ut2xi1kBNw35OkEBraiOuy1CUbF64mRKXWAGU= Received: by 10.220.44.200 with SMTP id b8mr3438436vcf.62.1239016575047; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279726050.dsl.bell.ca [76.71.17.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm737398yxl.55.2009.04.06.04.16.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D9E482.1010302@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:16:18 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: xf86-video-intel-2.6.3 resolution issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:17:02 -0000 With the previous intel driver, my screen resolution was 1400x1050, and after this latest update: ~>xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 960, maximum 1280 x 1280 VGA connected 1280x960+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 306mm x 230mm 1280x960 60.0* 1024x768 75.0 70.1 60.0 43.5 832x624 74.6 800x600 85.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x480 85.0 75.0 72.8 66.7 59.9 720x400 87.8 70.1 Is anyone else seeing this? Doesn't seem that I'm able to make the display fit the monitor, all of the settings are at 100% yet I've still got about 3 inches on either side of blackness. vgapci0@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x030000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x25828086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 vgapci1: mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 11:43:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546D2106576D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C328FC1A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (166.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.166]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A5E296332D9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D1FB93F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:43:24 +0200 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090406134324.3bc5fe17@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:43:30 -0000 Le Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:20 -0700, Gary Kline : [OpenOffice] > I want any/all the addons or plugins, and the > mozilla browser would be a plus. What is the goal of this browser option in OOo? To speed up the compilation of OOo, you can use ccache (option WITH_CCACHE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 11:52:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DFF1065695 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCB38FC20 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090406115155.TEXJ3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:51:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.3] ([24.176.107.223]) by imp09 with charter.net id cBrv1b00D4pDbjL05Brvyc; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:51:55 -0400 Message-Id: <7DB4F25C-EBF5-430A-AAE4-5F64C2A4A9A9@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:51:55 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: mergemaster options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:52:10 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Charles Howse wrote: > Hi, > I'm upgrading form 4.6-RELEASE to 4.6-STABLE. So sorry...that should be from 6.4-RELEASE to 6.4-STABLE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 12:03:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DAC10659C5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281B78FC27 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1795681bwz.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e2AelG0njiMRrokVYF52GVnb41qf0KK+fcL71ghRsM8=; b=O+Qz2OVwIDaL74++O1MTr7CcrKNqlzPoM3d1pBU8CZyCjU8SK2Z4KX94m8pS/O2lIX ldbwkXxlAEgkQJ8od0ZhY9fSfTDbwNpU4oTH77BBw0yAYu/r+C1YF9WjDGaTm4jw+E1c 3CA7xZS8lTP0+zS9m2PLz3iKgcPDWeDd4Dkp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cCygiKwm3iiCMfkIu+6fKA9WZ2iPWZnWUkxz9z5vMobdl7uNGyzxx7fxnnIe3kyvHR GaQvPnfBwV+FVSCYUSqpIvykfabXG7lKEtdPjuDRqB0PVZ+xW+eaa8twSk4eV0QwCNKO L1fO/0z9pbn+QtqrQXLx/72Uwx6KdeGVmZFTo= Received: by 10.223.103.207 with SMTP id l15mr3701778fao.2.1239019434920; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (ppp-94-69-68-78.home.otenet.gr [94.69.68.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm2241433fkt.3.2009.04.06.05.03.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D9EFA8.709@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:03:52 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090330) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mergemaster options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:04:20 -0000 Charles Howse wrote: > Hi, > I'm upgrading form 4.6-RELEASE to 4.6-STABLE. > When I get to the *second* run of mergemaster (after installworld), > I'd be interested to hear the list's comments on using options to > start mergemaster. > > For example, have you had good luck with: > mergemaster -i -u (install any files that don't already exist, and > attempt to install any files that haven't been user-modified) Yes, I am using this all the time. Note that you need a capital "U": mergemaster -iU > > Also, what is the first line of a file used for? What parts of the OS > 'care' about that line? What would happen if I kept the existing file > below, with it's older date and version #? (This is just a made-up > example). > > keep this existing file: > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.3 1999/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ > my custom line > blah > > delete this (fake) temporary file: > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.4 2000/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ > blah > blah > > I hope that's clear...? > The lines you see starting with $FreeBSD are used by the Version Control System (CVS or SVN). You have to judge by the content of the older file (not by the tag) whether to keep or upgrade the file. Usually, you will let it upgrade all files which you have not modified yourself. In some of these the only thing that changes is the tag. Before doing the mergemaster step, I suggest you keep a complete backup copy of your /etc directory. It may happen that you replace a file you actually need. And it is a real problem if you overwrite, say, master.passwd :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 12:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C7810656CC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BA08FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090406125346.UMUR3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:53:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.3] ([24.176.107.223]) by imp09 with charter.net id cCtl1b00D4pDbjL05Ctlou; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:53:46 -0400 Message-Id: From: Charles Howse To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <49D9EFA8.709@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:53:45 -0500 References: <49D9EFA8.709@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mergemaster options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:54:12 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Charles Howse wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm upgrading form 4.6-RELEASE to 4.6-STABLE. >> When I get to the *second* run of mergemaster (after installworld), >> I'd be interested to hear the list's comments on using options to >> start mergemaster. >> >> For example, have you had good luck with: >> mergemaster -i -u (install any files that don't already exist, and >> attempt to install any files that haven't been user-modified) > > Yes, I am using this all the time. Note that you need a capital "U": > > mergemaster -iU Right, capital U. That's good to know. Thanks. > > >> >> Also, what is the first line of a file used for? What parts of the >> OS >> 'care' about that line? What would happen if I kept the existing >> file >> below, with it's older date and version #? (This is just a made-up >> example). >> >> keep this existing file: >> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.3 1999/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ >> my custom line >> blah >> >> delete this (fake) temporary file: >> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/csh.cshrc,v 1.4 2000/08/27 23:23:40 peter Exp $ >> blah >> blah >> >> I hope that's clear...? >> > > The lines you see starting with $FreeBSD are used by the Version > Control > System (CVS or SVN). > You have to judge by the content of the older file (not by the tag) > whether to keep or upgrade the file. Usually, you will let it upgrade > all files which you have not modified yourself. In some of these the > only thing that changes is the tag. > Before doing the mergemaster step, I suggest you keep a complete > backup > copy of your /etc directory. It may happen that you replace a file > you > actually need. And it is a real problem if you overwrite, say, > master.passwd :) Actually, I wasn't asking about the CVS line with regard to mergemaster. I realize that mergemaster will stop and ask about any file in its list with a CVS line older than the new file. What I really want to know is, let's say the file above is /etc/ hosts.allow, and I have customized it according to my needs. If I leave the old file in /etc, I'm thinking it will still work just fine. It's only mergemaster, and maybe cvsup, and things that actually deal with version control that are concerned with the CVS line. Am I correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 13:04:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11D010656E8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296E58FC1A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36D4PTG043502; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36D4NMW043501; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904061304.n36D4NMW043501@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@boosten.org, Paul Schmehl , Peter Wang , illoai@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <08809CCC-DED8-43E6-B970-8E6A7F158540@boosten.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:04:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@boosten.org, Paul Schmehl , Peter Wang , illoai@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:04:54 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > > Peter Wang wrote: > > > > for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd > > > > release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. > > > > > > > > so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? > > > > thanks for your replies. > > > > > > % which adduser > > > /usr/sbin/adduser > > > > > > Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src > > > rather than /usr/ports. > > > > > > Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably > > > better on freebsd-questions than current. > > > > I think you misunderstood his question. > > > > This would be one way to do it: > > > > find /usr/ports/ -type f -exec grep -sq adduser {} \; -print That is horribly inefficient because it forks a separate grep process for every single file under /usr/ports. Also it will print a lot of false positive, because the ports tree contains several files and scripts that call adduser. > How about man pkg_info > > From memory: pkg_info -W /usr/sbin/adduser That won't work, because pkg_info only reports information about packages that you have installed. One way to find which ports provide a certain file is to use the "porgle" search engine: http://www.secnetix.de/tools/porgle/?w=p&q=adduser However, there is an adduser command in /usr/sbin which is part of the FreeBSD base system. If some script complains about that command being missing, you should invstigate whether you do have that command in /usr/sbin. It's unlikely that a port requires a different command with the same name without having a dependency on the port that provides that command. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd C++: "an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog" -- Steve Taylor, 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 13:22:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E541610656DD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A35B8FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36DMNn0044422; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:22:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36DMN8L044421; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:22:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:22:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904061322.n36DMN8L044421@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, roberthuff@rcn.com, Tim Judd In-Reply-To: <18905.35071.181871.437245@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, roberthuff@rcn.com, Tim Judd List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:22:49 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Tim Judd writes: > > > Reference - dependency list for OOo 3.0.1 package, 7.1-R i386: > > > > > I'm not sure why there's so much depenencies, but if anyone wants > > me to post it, I want to know. > > Because OOo declines to re-invent the wheel? Some of these are > easy to understand if you know almost nothing about programming - > the fonts for example. Others, like cairo, pango, expat, and CUPS, > are established libraries for dealing with things like text > input/rendering, graphics, and printing. "gtk" is the GUI tookkit. > What I don't understand is things like pciids-20090224. It's required by hal. About half of the dependencies seem to be Xorg-related things (fonts, libraries, protocols). There are also dependencies for supporting various graphics formats (png, jpeg, tiff) and scripting languages (python, perl). Well, it all adds up. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd We're sysadmins. To us, data is a protocol-overhead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 14:16:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAE810656D0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5464A8FC18 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 10:16:45 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PRB81662; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 10:16:43 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18906.3786.490993.59702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:16:42 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200904061322.n36DMN8L044421@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <18905.35071.181871.437245@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200904061322.n36DMN8L044421@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:16:45 -0000 Oliver Fromme writes: > > > I'm not sure why there's so much depenencies, but if anyone wants > > > me to post it, I want to know. > > > > Because OOo declines to re-invent the wheel? Some of these are > > easy to understand if you know almost nothing about programming - > > the fonts for example. Others, like cairo, pango, expat, and CUPS, > > are established libraries for dealing with things like text > > input/rendering, graphics, and printing. "gtk" is the GUI tookkit. > > What I don't understand is things like pciids-20090224. > > It's required by hal. About half of the dependencies seem > to be Xorg-related things (fonts, libraries, protocols). > There are also dependencies for supporting various graphics > formats (png, jpeg, tiff) and scripting languages (python, > perl). Well, it all adds up. So it's not just things that OO depends on directly, but things those programs depend on, /ad incipio/. That's ... confusing. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 14:19:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EA21065688 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4996A8FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36EJI0C047212; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:19:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36EJIsB047211; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:19:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:19:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904061419.n36EJIsB047211@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, modulok@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <64c038660904051158s56ef5e82m51ca3c545770487@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:19:42 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: gmirror THEN geli, correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, modulok@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:19:44 -0000 Modulok wrote: > I'm looking for a confirmation on the order: When setting up a (root > partiton) gmirror+geli, what is the propper order? e.g: gmirror the > disks and THEN initialize geli on the /dev/mirror partitions? Is this > correct? You can also do it the other way round. Both ways are possible and have different advantages and disadvantages. I think most people install gmirror first and put geli on top of it. The advantage of this is that it's more efficient, because data passes through geli only once for encryption when writing to the mirror. If you install geli first on both disks and then put gmirror on top of both geli instances, all data has to be encrypted twice when writing to the disk (for reading it doesn't make a difference), so it is less efficient. However, this setup has the advantage that gmirror will correctly detach one drive when its geli instance detects data corruption (if integrity verification is enabled). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "If you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, it's UNIX's job to ensure reliable delivery of the bullet to where you aimed the gun (in this case, Mr. Foot)." -- Terry Lambert, FreeBSD-hackers mailing list. 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I realize that mergemaster will stop and ask about any > file in its list with a CVS line older than the new file. > > What I really want to know is, let's say the file above is > /etc/hosts.allow, and I have customized it according to my needs. > If I leave the old file in /etc, I'm thinking it will still work just > fine. It's only mergemaster, and maybe cvsup, and things that > actually deal with version control that are concerned with the CVS line. > Am I correct? > > > You are correct. As long as the content of the file is right for the purpose, the line added by CVS is simply ignored by anything and everything - except mergemaster and friends when upgrading. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 15:30:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785710656D8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F7F8FC24 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36FUTbd050439; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36FUTqV050438; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:30:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904061530.n36FUTqV050438@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, roberthuff@rcn.com In-Reply-To: <18906.3786.490993.59702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:30:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, roberthuff@rcn.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:30:55 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Oliver Fromme writes: > > > > > I'm not sure why there's so much depenencies, but if anyone wants > > > > me to post it, I want to know. > > > > > > Because OOo declines to re-invent the wheel? Some of these are > > > easy to understand if you know almost nothing about programming - > > > the fonts for example. Others, like cairo, pango, expat, and CUPS, > > > are established libraries for dealing with things like text > > > input/rendering, graphics, and printing. "gtk" is the GUI tookkit. > > > What I don't understand is things like pciids-20090224. > > > > It's required by hal. About half of the dependencies seem > > to be Xorg-related things (fonts, libraries, protocols). > > There are also dependencies for supporting various graphics > > formats (png, jpeg, tiff) and scripting languages (python, > > perl). Well, it all adds up. > > So it's not just things that OO depends on directly, but things > those programs depend on, /ad incipio/. That's ... confusing. Well, package dependency is a transitive relation (in fact, it's even a transitive closure). So if you ask for the list of dependencies for a package, you'll get a list of _all_ packages required to run it, which also includes indirect dependencies, because these are required, too, of course. I don't think it's confusing. It would be confusig if it worked in a different way. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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Sobral From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 16:10:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF42910657E6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8638FC23 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36GA6ml018201; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:10:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n36GA4Bd018186; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:10:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:10:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, modulok@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <200904061419.n36EJIsB047211@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: References: <200904061419.n36EJIsB047211@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: gmirror THEN geli, correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:10:27 -0000 > Modulok wrote: > > I'm looking for a confirmation on the order: When setting up a (root > > partiton) gmirror+geli, what is the propper order? e.g: gmirror the > > disks and THEN initialize geli on the /dev/mirror partitions? Is this yes it is right order. with geli then gmirror - you will end with double CPU load on writes (as data would be encrypted twice) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 16:26:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C94106568A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072EF8FC1F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090406162623.VJPO2647.mta31.charter.net@imp10>; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:26:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.3] ([24.176.107.223]) by imp10 with charter.net id cGSN1b00C4pDbjL05GSNw9; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:26:23 -0400 Message-Id: <726F1B0E-BF6A-4F4B-BB7D-D71CFE1ED6FE@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <49DA1EAA.7030602@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:26:21 -0500 References: <49D9EFA8.709@gmail.com> <49DA1EAA.7030602@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mergemaster options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:26:36 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Charles Howse wrote: >> >> >> Actually, I wasn't asking about the CVS line with regard to >> mergemaster. I realize that mergemaster will stop and ask about any >> file in its list with a CVS line older than the new file. >> >> What I really want to know is, let's say the file above is >> /etc/hosts.allow, and I have customized it according to my needs. >> If I leave the old file in /etc, I'm thinking it will still work just >> fine. It's only mergemaster, and maybe cvsup, and things that >> actually deal with version control that are concerned with the CVS >> line. >> Am I correct? >> >> >> > You are correct. As long as the content of the file is right for the > purpose, the line added by CVS is simply ignored by anything and > everything - except mergemaster and friends when upgrading. As I suspected. Thanks for the confirmation. I have completed my upgrade to 6.4-STABLE with the following hiccups: mergemaster -iU couldn't find a btree database, so it skipped the auto update. It did save a database at the end, so I assume I can use that next time. I never thought to check for which side of the screen the old file was on after I chose "m" to merge. Finally figured out that the old file is on the left, and the temp on the right. Once finished completely, there were no problems I couldn't recover from. Good thing this is a brand new installation, with only 2 accounts! :-) Thanks for all the help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:08:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06790106568E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4EB8FC16 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 31655 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 18:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 18:08:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:08:18 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:08:22 -0000 >> Check the machine-hostname.err file when you manually try and >> start MySQL. >> Provided that you have mysql_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf you >> should be able >> to manually attempt to start with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server >> start (it >> seems to work reliably when you type out the entire command path- >> wise). >> >> Note that if somehow permissions on the my.cnf file got changed >> MySQL won't >> start if my.cnf is world writable. Check for stale PID and >> sockets. Normally >> these shouldn't be a problem as a startup will just overwrite >> them. Check >> these to eliminate any wonkiness, e.g. some permission change >> isn't allowing >> for MySQL to wipe the old ones. >> >> The whateverthehostname.err log and possibly /var/log/messages >> might give >> some clue for what's going on. If the database files are corrupt >> just clean >> them out and replace with a backup done with dump. Ensure the /var/ >> db/mysql >> tree is chowned mysql:mysql. If you had to install/reinstall from >> ports the >> install should have created the appropriate uid/gid accounts. >> Check and see >> if these are missing. >> >> At any rate I wish you the best of luck. Now that you can SSH in >> you can >> probably fix it up. > Okay, so my new database server is running with backup data and I am trying to salvage the old database, or what's left of it. Unfortunately, it seems like what's left of it, is not much. the /var/db/mysql directory tree is now a file: qu# ls -l /var/db/mysql -rwx------ 2 mysql wheel 1024 Jul 5 2008 /var/db/mysql The situation looks hopeless to me. Is it? Another question: given that the file system took a major hit, should I try to fix it, or just do a clean install? I'm leaning towards the clean install since I've been meaning to upgrade this machine to 7.1 anyway. Is there anyway to fix the file system, reliably? fsck doesn't seem to be able to solve all the problems. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:12:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E21A1065770 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87A68FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so513917eyf.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:12:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qF6xA0t5Q8uMHkbtk/Z+SGfytGzE48zQqUT0n2U2UkM=; b=gQdlSvWjaOdLYsUQBCU7/R452mpvrFe8PVxuJ1iPy7AYrlbDO2yOWb86LuJ1jND1X1 W7y4aGjH4tV1hGpMHT0dgvtUS+GFsNzcMLWb6iFLXVqCc87GDk9HTRCU4XRCGj4KmK7u Zgj+DczIjcBSy0ONgR5a43sjEEDtXUSsY0F7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hGjec4u61FnnIkiC7ztRRBADZTWNsh8zogpSkjZit8ZUfVl4wFloQX4bAiZgUCdImL ppporSFhoa0vbLoQZU2plbNdKOLtspX+SUgdzzi+h5EU9LVqs5QkkKn030Zmvvp0XruF zF9x95TGr8tJpm+TfkcsH/NsCt10OsuGnXx7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.11.13 with SMTP id 13mr1442127ebk.48.1239041531732; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:12:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:12:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Bruce Cran , olli@lurza.secnetix.de, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:12:13 -0000 2009/4/6 Bruce Cran : > On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0100 > Chris Rees wrote: > >> 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme : >> > Chris Rees wrote: >> > =A0> 2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar : >> > =A0> > >> > =A0> > IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all >> > =A0> >> > =A0> Why? >> > >> > Google "background fsck damage". >> > >> > I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn >> > background fsck off. =A0If your disks are large and you >> > can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which >> > has a lot of benefits besides not requiring fsck. >> > >> > Best regards >> > =A0 Oliver >> > >> >> Right... You were bitten by background fsck, what _exactly_ happened? >> All the 'problems' here associated with bgfsck are referring to >> FreeBSD 4 etc, or incredibly vague anecdotal evidence. Have you >> googled for background fsck damage? Nothing (in the first two pages at >> least) even suggests that background fsck causes damage. >> > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=3Dbackground+fsck+corruption > > You'll find the first few results are about panics during background > fsck resulting in an endless cycle of boot-panic-reboot, which don't > occur with foreground fsck. And at least the first result is from 6.x. > > -- > Bruce Cran > So... Is the background fsck causing damage or corruption? The answer to that is NO. It's a consequence of reading a bad directory structure, which happened anyway. Quoting jpd on this same issue, emphasis added: > So far we only have *your word* for *vague problems* and *speculated caus= es*. > So your best bets so far are to investigate, and lending a hand to the > fs people with ironing out a possible bug or two. Seriously, this conversation is full of crap, and only makes one of FreeBSDs incredibly useful features look bad with no evidence. Can no-one can come up with a reply either quoting a mailing list or giving the circumstances when: a) Background fsck caused data CORRUPTION _and_ b) A foreground fsck would not have done the same ? Anything else is sidestepping the question, and spreading FUD. Anyone? Perhaps I should CC one of the filesystem developers to get them to reassure you all? I don't think they'd be too pleased at people saying their design is flawed. It's not. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:19:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870D31065753 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C118FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1414691ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EoRJ+3cldboiDbtcK6o+aat+HF/RxB2agh1q4CkKQIA=; b=c/New/u3klUVCtHXhJuHUdfUxPc0zYpOpkuWNKeFY7aGU1F43IvzvdyFY1P+zt88S6 dtWPpu+EwnNYW9wfafsBcnBfZKmdYB6J4JngYxg8YLqz1OxNJISaZUIGPwY2Ykj8CVFK uNlCrlTDwMgE4XYY8VpnEqC9mmO/4dHjBePP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MyipteZpeYvI2foDyQmHUoCcNSDT8Zyrqyk/65swjFbfhhLspNveikYu2XgqZ64mGX 7kQi83TnkGwF/Pr7g0IETaOfg67AZ/uC3H/uS3yELOj6t7MSjughWOkzW8Xvw9T4mUbI coPqDRwXXU4sgXHKSePsTNSkmLHwpA+1MSvRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.49.8 with SMTP id b8mr8852947ybk.249.1239041967519; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:19:28 -0000 Hello, I have bsnmpd enabled in rc.conf root@lama ~ 501$ grep ^b /etc/rc.conf bsnmpd_enable="YES" root@lama ~ 502$ yet, whenever I restart my computer, it won't start on boot, but if I run manual command /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start it starts fine no problem -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:23:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9DA1065716 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4868FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36IMZ6P059264; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:22:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36IMZGq059263; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:22:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:22:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904061822.n36IMZGq059263@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, modulok@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:23:04 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: gmirror THEN geli, correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, modulok@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:23:06 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Modulok wrote: > > > I'm looking for a confirmation on the order: When setting up a (root > > > partiton) gmirror+geli, what is the propper order? e.g: gmirror the > > > disks and THEN initialize geli on the /dev/mirror partitions? Is this > > yes it is right order. No, there is no "right" or "wrong" order. It depends on what features of gmirror and geli you want to exploit. See my more detailed explanation in this thread. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Unix gives you just enough rope to hang yourself -- and then a couple of more feet, just to be sure." -- Eric Allman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:23:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4B51065794 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCC08FC28 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2232090rvb.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=hSksEOw0TIMKNIN1gFLpiPwO8tmLGHt0rLqOsOBVPO0=; b=k6iNlqCghNCrnV0+0OMJKituVh2C2rrnoD1XisBas/ime8t3XN+wHeaUnA2I45Fbwq bABCK0c/hBLkysV4VtPhmg9EdO3QWgTKyKLVLVFjLZosA6HkvrjFf7r8qGJUIyE3ctFi eu7hZTDGLymizdQ8Crgtg+JGBthkNZlCjkMow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=RoXRQ1b0p8XlvivLxiHXNAPrDORKQxCpf1DM083fGqEd0N63giw18SY/Jx4ORnJ+Y1 KApTo2g0jhHFjQBR29ml9+n6yymjGeNTeCcnifPsvAPrchRLn6YRrnwKLwLuJclaqIPN arC1RbfL+pNvaEyMfoNV3cnkGZSDHqwqnAEcQ= Received: by 10.114.182.15 with SMTP id e15mr2434629waf.17.1239042210029; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30sm5779506wag.47.2009.04.06.11.23.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:21:24 +0300 To: alexus From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:23:31 -0000 On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:19:27 +0300, alexus wrote: > Hello, > > I have bsnmpd enabled in rc.conf > > > root@lama ~ 501$ grep ^b /etc/rc.conf > bsnmpd_enable="YES" > root@lama ~ 502$ > > yet, whenever I restart my computer, it won't start on boot, but if I > run manual command > > /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start > > it starts fine no problem > > If I were you, I would first have a look at that startup script just to see what exactly it is that it's doing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:41:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E918010656FB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD0B8FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1419447yxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UHJlP2cf9LyRtXWCLopMg8zOzMCCFilBgcEyUMhkvkE=; b=ECDrB9KAyS6zaLxIa3GPCCrkvGItVc7R55qBPOsC7yaAl3zlTdDtnEKN8w+gSTGugD 302yCaiUuvWzIF8a1XPO4kCCO/0A+STT7W1kfujQ2xLm43knk4F5n1Y3FXIN8R2MJDt9 Xy9Z6BfHG1NMYJ5MYnU+iBtlWovRAsFPF+OPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kv1bMOJn0LFIUFELRd6m64ZM1BV03Y1hkggSajQKTJqnzM2wnKL+npCqQ6lPe962jI HpJ/ukJMECydKbh9iamqan/9OPgsnBJb45JsJqR9nrwdT3/xZbpZBwuLA4eWbkoRqpF3 Fh3drWTUhLZ6CZsnuwQGb6ifQf1Ot/1qIXaro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.211.4 with SMTP id j4mr5494816ybg.42.1239043268113; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:41:07 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:09 -0000 feel free to take a look, script located at /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd, it's very simple script all it does it runs /usr/sbin/bsnmpd that's it On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:19:27 +0300, alexus wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have bsnmpd enabled in rc.conf >> >> >> root@lama ~ 501$ grep ^b /etc/rc.conf >> bsnmpd_enable="YES" >> root@lama ~ 502$ >> >> yet, whenever I restart my computer, it won't start on boot, but if I >> run manual command >> >> /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start >> >> it starts fine no problem >> >> > > > If I were you, I would first have a look at that startup script just to see > what exactly it is that it's doing. > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 18:48:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A6B1065687 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90ED8FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2124445wfg.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=7Xcn9NOq0jPre3richoEIfRHBRAhymO+zXoT2WnScnI=; b=GluAsKdF426IBjFO2cU9fRD/3YWKb0LmAGw8IANHIIwOQwjjYJCxK46uX/8WkXO9y7 xtaZK9dxpcPcA+SU9JPVHbmeB/xXRk0pZTTRwm+emz3NrWLfWhoMDOmocnk1ZqIyV8Ek HAxdYBIXz/xjScxeEMtY1DzI1GqY0vRs8FD98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=pNeUkPZqrC8ZGi0Uh6DJ6gk0x/cqVAW3nqhJ7a4KBP5paNq+B1GLfR2YxB8dqk4StM OwWy+TAw8I09giwYWLJynbS6RJPxTb+JMM5o4OV9KJlyeLOUl9++iBMcoxAZkk7dDWTr rpn3tV+ydoE5i7HGALfxUTNVk8PtkqJY1VvBk= Received: by 10.114.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr2437962way.89.1239043733596; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n22sm5227425pof.0.2009.04.06.11.48.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:46:47 +0300 To: alexus From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:48:54 -0000 On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:41:07 +0300, alexus wrote: > feel free to take a look, script located at /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd, it's > very simple script all it does it runs /usr/sbin/bsnmpd that's it Indeed, very simplistic script. So I also did bsnmpd_enable="YES" in rc.conf and after a reboot and it works. So maybe check logs, console, etc.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:03:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E875106579F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE858FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so6742048gxk.19 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:03:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=slrNhPl6jROhz5Fegh8yGtm/qTHErSjY2vaZorPk/uU=; b=U09cImL+j4TnL/RKvFOIVeL3flinlQZ5IK+DIagdaUuSvYcuHs70w1D6LV8ndD39Qa nOUhBQVFnhvsWQhMG4uB+SiPT7eH7jl1bY5FbW4sKfez9u53V0Ys1LLR9i65zJkRiZ8b CjqjH+OdMFwY3Gaibxtd3hOPM0ZJ6crjlUkug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DPPIIPZMzE5P98WehHc9zvprxXwSHccewd017T8Y4WZbSEzpahGUjxVbOp1ZadRza5 NYTqDppGd5bUWFvLUItbgXpUbQ/kznbWCQ/yogM3deU9sfNGCauPA/g3IQQ5IWuZhtK6 zEVKYN7fuKUmF1EoHs+kL32kFm/1kvykH2V5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.218.10 with SMTP id q10mr4240020ybg.15.1239044598490; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:03:18 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061203o18e6e6d7of830b81f52fd89b@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:03:19 -0000 root@mx1 ~ 496$ csh Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) root@mx1 ~ 497$ i even updated all my system to latest -RELEASE root@mx1 ~ 499$ uname -a FreeBSD mx1.alexus.biz 7.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p4 #3: Sun Mar 29 05:42:35 UTC 2009 alexus@dd.alexus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@mx1 ~ 500$ I've had that on other systems as well, this isn't the first one I'm having this issue... -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A531065725 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091EB8FC18 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1428586ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8racc+U8YyZR+RaP4HqFoHimiD3L1C1UUJx4SgY41+k=; b=jldrN+Jnd9VKWUEAeDvvLxQYno6FfywRcPZTPQDMsu6pPyPxnVt7KkcZ4OaMrU3wya njGbkyUn0dUsC22khPqT4xvoB3RVXnOTBzgVFvkvKyBzIo/znmUex5DOAll8wOtmLeX0 L6Wxl2fMFYXQY7j8SQh2ZjhvrYJ+ir9A/zRqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gjaXhb3kAeacKXJIyfl5KTxJypIm3Hzjv/07ksW8eDiO7eiVduwGh7qFrnwHTyg3q+ NeB0gCjcNEMRtBZ5xCfBm/VLXajpYlk4T2PDyH2xuDEg4Wz8NOHK8wTi7kqfL3dS3vSb v75jyLB4+KhRIArGLY2M+63Ho2GBmJ/mVi8WQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.144.17 with SMTP id r17mr7529625ybd.194.1239044635472; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:03:55 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:03:57 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:41:07 +0300, alexus wrote: > >> feel free to take a look, script located at /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd, it's >> very simple script all it does it runs /usr/sbin/bsnmpd that's it > > Indeed, very simplistic script. > > So I also did bsnmpd_enable="YES" in rc.conf and after a reboot and it > works. So maybe check logs, console, etc.... > there is nothing in logs -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:09:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7931065688 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A488FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1430245ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:09:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EA8aiLxT6UksVbUTPuTeakmwVFQf4Qs/6+Ffj06/OP4=; b=mdZ4URZLSgxC/S+0kuMv93ivz1l1jaZgZ8IbL9jLzZg+Y2x2uuyjQNhEZtZcdQhghQ vfC5gz/O+BFUqcZUZ7vWsFpuBL3wNjDBU8GE66UrxijhCLKCK5VqX6U/9Z/wD4I5us1X azSvXazCtt8yA7P5K0U4E81g6Yvn/i9XbU9Cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IZfNg3jejMuC//YuaLQ61azhtG+tnxz7h2qBzPpDZMqLz/D/HPoAJFBkoH/0nOAfc4 vTp+nq9mebuIcqWyPibgur4+52GHUr2gRoywdd0+H9Gvfw7Q1H3UyFS57nfkJzjFGuKn iY3gfPk2Ox1qi2DHRUeicxmLAYquVdQGS4uRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.95.15 with SMTP id s15mr2034136anb.33.1239044953174; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:09:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061203o18e6e6d7of830b81f52fd89b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061203o18e6e6d7of830b81f52fd89b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904061209q7f167a4cw9efae8819a5e3c5f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: alexus , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:09:14 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, alexus wrote: > root@mx1 ~ 496$ csh > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > root@mx1 ~ 497$ > Segmentation Fault 11 is typically indicative of hardware failure (CPU, RAM, motherboard). Can you run memtest86+ and test that theory? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:10:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F277106573C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA3D8FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1965248ewy.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:10:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:date :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5sRjW/Uyp00A5VDG2wI7iPygZHo0I39lkw0//FptK1g=; b=rByomv5d3+KAhCXUjXT9Jx+aWAaSlnuTOpfX80H2Z1NGqZ1FNK0wzlqbOyZT5wtVZn CotalR0m0rw2wz5e5AZp8bf0ffyLL6UNKDeX7twg94TD4AhrcyLSfDjhGVu405vgQHC6 fict+7D5TYPcOfEY8wDRTD8k6XGvCtS7A8zPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=iLyNMfyLeLEv5pukXSAg2k3X5M8RyBAD1u/U4rLFd1eUWRvxf2DCEbmHkZkyCpELje yVFgS1D7mbi/FTJ6JddlBy26PRAIIl2z8kRxzwCjF5V2/IakkLyuNNLKDe7d8cMjp+PD eI6OLMQJLXcW5Z1OtSiQTKJwdy5n3VO9FI22Y= Received: by 10.216.11.200 with SMTP id 50mr29250wex.183.1239045029325; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm12261631gve.18.2009.04.06.12.10.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:10:29 -0700 (PDT) To: alexus From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:08:27 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:10:33 -0000 hmm.... how about trying to make your own script that starts bsnmpd ? try it..... does it work ?> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:12:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DCD10657E6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A188FC19 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1431178ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PzkrvPCtCA5y0xAICfpjncuHJT0XAKq45I8CPS57/UM=; b=NtK3h0N263+i18s7p8QQ8x8GCZcuc80YVM3XFjhS0mIKgITLeTLKeE6ESNJbx5xjN3 pSto4pyTX4aD38wcYj4HjRIUmSutk6YbswesdmGhA7ZiLkWcOGvb1pTFFKbx1LuB5GeS wXq8wm+eJpHB3Rz7z/rEuHrzr9lahL42sjrh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BZp+9S6L2JEaf/dnZdW3F49busvQfVxrsc9Cwm7ZtkAw5O2QsKiIBcyp+Sg+uuaZKA fCEyafQ6l9fGytkmbjMxqIsfJZiYDjXmAqx2gnWz+SD7RdbxRqx25y6daMdGKJ+JJTJr vwtxeMJJnVNc2HMlRLz9nromOtlKf5OjU3in0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.27.9 with SMTP id e9mr1516051ybj.18.1239045147782; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904061209q7f167a4cw9efae8819a5e3c5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061203o18e6e6d7of830b81f52fd89b@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310904061209q7f167a4cw9efae8819a5e3c5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:12:27 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061212r2acd2cfbsb1c26f26fce72799@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:12:29 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Glen Barber wrote= : > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, alexus wrote: >> root@mx1 ~ 496$ csh >> Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) >> root@mx1 ~ 497$ >> > > Segmentation Fault 11 is typically indicative of hardware failure > (CPU, RAM, motherboard). =C2=A0Can you run memtest86+ and test that theor= y? I doubt that it has anything to do with hardware, as a) everything else works fine except for this thing b) i'm getting same type of behavior on multiple systems (some of these systems are high end boxes, some of them are low end) > -- > Glen Barber > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AB91065693 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A058FC20 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id c6so1301096rvf.31 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.145.17 with SMTP id s17mr469571wad.0.1239045186821; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001636456e3838a1e40466e7b0c1@google.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:13:06 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: where is spl_autoload found in PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:13:08 -0000 Hi, I saw Zend in the ports and so I'm hoping that some here use it and can help me with this one. I've installed the latest stable Zend, which is a little newer than what I found in ports, and I'm running PHP version 5.2.8 (which I did install from ports). I'm going through the Zend QuickStart guide (http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-an-action-controller-and-view), and ran into this error when loading the page at this point of the quick start; Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Exception' with message 'spl_autoload does not exist in this PHP installation' in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php:206 Stack trace: #0 /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/public/index.php(18): Zend_Loader::registerAutoload() #1 {main} thrown in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php on line 206 I've searched through the ports looking for auto and load in php5 modules and I've found nothing (I did my searching at freshports.org). I then did a make config in the /usr/ports/lang/php5 directory but didn't see a check box for spl_autoload in the options. How do I get this installed in my PHP installation? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:13:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470F910657A2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F242A8FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so6755020gxk.19 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iQBws0ZFg3PohQ8kdbjbG7UGUY6SY+66vqTqCXdIXuU=; b=tvfqcCLzuJKJ0vZkdrF3UqEpyMWYrg0i7DwrM9meYIq81o9YkL2mf++M9/Fs7EUy9r pV/VPTQtzE3JF+nUepZAdPzuWukvrpxCRNTdnG3RQuxZWLYV5ve+I6CbXImY5TYqoXBs vop7fdyqdjbYu0eFBKBLWjh7vCBnHmvou3LD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D5mkf2+2zvsu2KOcT3aUUSqrE3b4T8OtxcHyYL7j3WF7ccyZPWK/id/bZDvYJiTmDC fM9Re3cgbP7worJeGdNceXWRWzUrziaYWEGfFUx1E6TUG2ln3Oui9NRPe9DnNXCAXO3k lEswCpxSSaq4FB16Bmh5ZU9G9GtTbxl9XrCjs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.148.1 with SMTP id v1mr9020885ybd.40.1239045223227; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:43 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:13:45 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > hmm.... how about trying to make your own script that starts bsnmpd ? > try it..... does it work ?> > I guess I could put something in either /usr/local/etc/rc.d to kick /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd script or maybe even put it in /etc/rc.local, but that wouldn't be right way to go, as this should work from /etc/rc.conf by itself... -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:16:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CF010659D4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail4.hostpark.net (mail4.hostpark.net [212.243.197.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4878FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail4.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1813E315; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:12:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail4.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail4.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id Pa09WO0l4Q8Q; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:12:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (214-17.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch [92.106.17.214]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail4.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AC63D930; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:12:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n36JGA8l060353; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:16:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36JGA8o060352; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:16:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:16:10 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090406191610.GO72129@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , Martin Schweizer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090405085834.GL72129@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Cc: Martin Schweizer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw: bandwidth limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:16:18 -0000 Hello Wojciech Am Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 02:08:09PM +0200 Wojciech Puchar schrieb: > >[snip] > >$ipfwcmd pipe 1 config bw 80KByte/s > >$ipfwcmd add pipe 1 ip from any to 192.168.10.0/24{100-254} via em1 > >[snip] > > > >I'm not sure it works. When I do a large download which takes long and > >anybody else want download too, this download will only get a reduce > >bandwidth. I expect that the second download get same rate as the first one > >(and reduce the bandwidth from the first one). Is that correct? > > your example limits it all to 80kB/s but does no traffic management. so it > may get the same rate (half by half) or may not. > > > do > > $ipfwcmd pipe 1 config bw 80kByte/s > $ipfwcmd queue 1 config pipe 1 weight 1 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff > $ipfwcmd add queue 1 ip from any to 192.168.10.0/24{100-254} via em1 > > this will limit them to 80kB/s and perform fair-sharing based of hosts. > > for example if one user on one computer will start 100 downloads, and > other on other computer will start 1 download, this will ensure that first > user will not takeover most bandwidth. I will try it in the next days and give you a feedback. Thanks. Regards -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3541065843 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B888FC3C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1968363ewy.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ZPJJzUC/7IBGC10MmnytQE2ICyEKj+/Bfuui4r6nEgk=; b=QpRfKu3U9XzzLTYtgUHQ2fC76D0YwkTvZ/TXqx2kWPnj0K4bWDD2XB8BCyKJ1IwZng ybwaBqW5kCb+TSbMiKJ2nbCsls1ajIBZidalLcdvfviBKGtZrD+vNZXJFBrWuCmFEdB1 7VhrslpQU1rhV/4c/j5rP07HiCpecbrkpaGVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=S33Vc/qVy/VjlgVZirh5CEzIJseiQHyaVELOZpMTCl1s0EPrybVXTds1b3Xzr83STZ x+Mnwtxi/UZxtsstiZF/0+ht5AG+jIITnBfNVvDmTb3iDSawOZuOXn7RfGbBC/SJmTPi EZArfkyQAX9fqBItYoEZ6mXL5baLwYbK1yib0= Received: by 10.216.21.194 with SMTP id r44mr1300402wer.80.1239045486825; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm12442735gve.3.2009.04.06.12.18.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:16:01 +0300 To: alexus From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:18:10 -0000 > I guess I could put something in either /usr/local/etc/rc.d to kick > /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd script or maybe even put it in /etc/rc.local, but > that wouldn't be right way to go, as this should work from > /etc/rc.conf by itself... Yeah, it should. Did you check the execution bit on the script ? Is it set ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:27:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5903B106568D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F098FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1434323yxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:27:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ehlr8bNXJzV4b66QzkGaTvs/ZnQ6VEb3SgxvvB9SMzg=; b=JNYfky/QJBs3LT8T6YfYEWaU5xtnMt9tNdMdDoF5bPNnefbyjtaCpDTyb+ej0kPQYS NPJk26Rsm/mJ9Hh5f9ronExUIFILPX2sLta1RGssJoDrx11AqnY1aCgPCIm13UQb4Wdb Ga2wT7enEc+y5QtMYoFm1lqxe6yYa9Tt0g4YA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=is4Nekxe6YUdA8omIKEw5/u+qgbJ+hQfJFJ7zQ6sjDNZp7rN76lKZC8uWGK/g9Ltql IXIXqIcWDcQJIysxKtqpDwsXO4i6cWB90hdFbkS21KoZnziS86HYqkFycm6RbFpIwGf8 LLTxQMequ6p+c0fPBSdhLpqv1QdcHsV0n/Bdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.142.16 with SMTP id u16mr8919709ybn.197.1239046073263; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:27:53 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:27:54 -0000 dd# /etc/rc.d/jail stop Stopping jails: cannot stop jail lama. No jail id in /var/run cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run . dd# jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 3 XX.XXX.XX.XXX XXX.XXXXXX.biz /usr/jail/mx 1 XX.XXX.XX.XXX XXXX.XXXXX.biz /usr/jail/lama dd# and there is nothing in /var/run/jail_*.id related to this jails -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:31:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F74910656DA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E46B8FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so521918eyf.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:31:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=mYkgbTI1fa0yrOEJEz43mDkU2lL+vIxhDbucrPDNKYI=; b=qZGnJhi7herjPxBBSa2qQWaYyxmDFGe6UY7wcpXKLhpvZe4WUEIrCqY5s3c0EtIV9Z RCBmMn+Wn0Uv7XdcsiLHhAwBYei0OMxD7okrgD5sNwycCaRZ49K8Jm/3gquLGdCBItJI 4oHLNQcy/daXZ8u0EDbpic15nkQ5jCQqF0udk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=aPxReltlLivNS9apfncshSEZR2I9ppuOKsA5Hmar20HBNeoXbvOiTvHQgxa8P1tp5Q aWjbFKK/S8a96atIZV/HpQ62eybGM7WYSZPP91YbhdWj8E5RYCkLt5ig58S2DfJRJE01 zXboY/574bxlMXWy8/uIF0yQgd1t1Yu39AwSc= Received: by 10.216.11.67 with SMTP id 45mr1305070wew.53.1239046266705; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9sm12744464gvc.4.2009.04.06.12.31.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:29:04 +0300 To: alexus From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:31:11 -0000 > 2) if that would be incorrect i wouldn't be able to run it manually Yes, your right, my mistake. So first of all, are you positive that, at startup, there are no lines, even vagli, related to bsnmpd ? Errors... nothing ? Second, I'm all out of ideas, except to create a second script and use that. You could use it from rc.conf (the second script). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:34:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7263D106578D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249268FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so6781007gxk.19 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gj8/cPqJ4rjAZotZp7eCCQ5jQGyZJ3b57DdbXCgYqAI=; b=P6fYNvTIwlKbE5qmoMSGay2IgVXGDbIgEmxG8Bu2hDZlbN28/drAkGhqODLvt1lm8O WgF3IV7ZqM3tJqQYv9RcRCQr+nAnqf47t7zqzbbRce00EwdObHbiftOIuNN7zUDKJAUl fmItkYrVwf7BX0BKSIP0O82yrjXarmULdvGys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HUHNd0TuaSQ0WBsRiCjKcoV4Sd/a3zZnmLPZCVDepDoiA5m5NTkhbox4zu3oo2o3Mq JFb+Pzn5oZOjBGTdWeCF4LNYEkt+WMaRZuBCd42bg8Bcam1tW0TlpBQ4Wtg6z55B/OT0 laRJQyFwzxB5oRrrn5I6z9Nt2BqQhpuIhFqes= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.192.7 with SMTP id p7mr9029180ybf.195.1239046449242; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:34:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061141p65f3f4edrbfa3ee73167fd8fa@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:09 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061234h70bd30bt4dee6f5bd09789c2@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:34:11 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: >> 2) if that would be incorrect i wouldn't be able to run it manually > > Yes, your right, my mistake. > So first of all, are you positive that, at startup, there are no lines, even > vagli, related to bsnmpd ? Errors... nothing ? yes, I'm 100% positive. I just restart it now $ grep -i snmp /var/log/all.log $ > Second, I'm all out of ideas, except to create a second script and use that. > You could use it from rc.conf (the second script). > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:42:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98CA10657BB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E8F8FC65 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from [192.168.2.161] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:42:36 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::34 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: alexus In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:42:35 -0400 Message-Id: <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:43:04 -0000 On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: > cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run $ uname -a There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:49:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F01065674 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF25D8FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2268527rvb.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I7I3U1BMSRfR/ZGYGz7sib2z/4SI7bP/kQLyh2ZNzFQ=; b=iiLijQ3NsHbeu3+4gIDUoTGcRmQhhE3PrZduf2YoE5Yt1oFE+4gSmG+/lVp3nL/tsf k31/LkjfK/fK8Rat+AAfogzCjq0YOH+dh0BSmIM6+klJ1cC8XAd6fiRtdLGjMoOJ93bI v5Drr6iNO8274eVpXcOqNmGpQ2dsp1iby4cx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vpJ6cVZmrX2KnBpIpdMhxzzMLNFfJ8rGPhh5uWl2wgPbSgtAa1UNNOV9y2ipYVTA8W bDVMdoGv1fHgZieDXhmBuc029KzeNF5z/kOAycOiq86LTiKccjd8yDyHBw9Um7ZsAAEv MNi7lLPIsZxoMlPu7YsLZVOlTP7SblaZM1pfo= Received: by 10.114.146.4 with SMTP id t4mr2463246wad.143.1239047390582; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm10370692pod.19.2009.04.06.12.49.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:49:53 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:49:54 -0000 Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: > >> cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run >> > > $ uname -a > > There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause > processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I believe I have seen other causes of this issue since it happens on 7.1. jkill takes care of it. Probably happens due to user error, here at least. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:53:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D7810657E1 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1589A8FC2F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n36JsXrk025817; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:53:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20090406195323.GA30516@thought.org> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Tim Judd , Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:53:31 -0000 On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:02:07AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Tim Judd writes: > > > I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. > > > > On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ > > 2.40GHz > > > > Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my > > top always said <=50% CPU usage > > For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded > with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. > > > Robert Huff Sorry if this is getting old.... . I'm running two desktops, one 2.8GHz, this one 2.4. Both with "only" 1G ram. I useemy hardware pretty intensively, not lightly loaded, and building a full-blown OO takes at least three days. ---This is when I've got plenty of space. With fewer than 5G disk, forget it. That's why I want my next computer to be not only powerful but with diskspace to burn. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:04:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699C81065894 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338028FC31 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2274108rvb.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:04:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0KY4FG3tcz3qa7d7Hjnf3JJtffL8Of2FLTbxhOI2PK4=; b=iqSt+PlYgeYh/5suWySC5wEmIK1VmfdPx27H6WMcchjxUYO3Mvfl3WCPPzXv8TbHLj 61xF81IetfN+IJMDR6O53XFvGpP4/cJ/1jGEhZc8bGdE6rcGXU+Y5JYHP/KSfhJqYWee R4Wfa9WUDy90aSUwYR3We7SsivYhi6QAz+edQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFqWdqwFYYhug6ggHDvmnPxlGNP5j/WS4Ump0TTkDlZkGt9dULs8IcIKyNPNGArBJy w+OdyuJp5I6fk5f57MyiHE9nTVDin2uoLzzoN/t9GlJuRNKBh+PlRm0YLbk6i10rrqFu +KKfLgRUf2kPJAgN1BcoEiPEzqLYD5KwG/hc4= Received: by 10.114.158.1 with SMTP id g1mr2470860wae.126.1239048275852; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm8342253pog.10.2009.04.06.13.04.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA6057.4090401@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:04:39 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090406195323.GA30516@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20090406195323.GA30516@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:04:39 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:02:07AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > >> Tim Judd writes: >> >> >>> I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. >>> >>> On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ >>> 2.40GHz >>> >>> Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my >>> top always said <=50% CPU usage >>> >> For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded >> with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. >> >> >> Robert Huff >> > > Sorry if this is getting old.... . > > I'm running two desktops, one 2.8GHz, this one 2.4. Both with > "only" 1G ram. I useemy hardware pretty intensively, not lightly > loaded, and building a full-blown OO takes at least three days. > ---This is when I've got plenty of space. With fewer than 5G > disk, forget it. That's why I want my next computer to be not > only powerful but with diskspace to burn. > > > > just got done compiling ooo3 devel on 1.4 gz pentium-m. I think it took less than a day, 512 ram, nothing else running. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:07:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244091065954 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cacti@ekman.netline.com) Received: from ekman.netline.com (ekman.netline.com [209.133.56.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D29C8FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cacti@ekman.netline.com) Received: by ekman.netline.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1CC5D1184A3; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:19:23 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1239045563.43864.qmail@Poste-italiane.it> From: "MondoBancoPosta" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:19:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Premio vi aspetta! 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Distinti Saluti BancoPosta ©PosteItaliane 2008 References 1. http://radiofreefm.no-ip.org/postcard.exe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:08:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2A41065E67 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2B18FC25 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1449314ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:08:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yTwNgebhDGsZhv8FJNsLTQIZHG6zlxqGVFL+N1wFk0Y=; b=DXg2auWsZ4h6ASCi6rvVyXtXxtNO1okg99IYZ3oXLFeKtIsTUTvkjvpTvlTVydVY4o SOe4lNlyyxIw/tUstw2cQ1FmAFTmQUZ2eE4FgxWJY2/qGqHEy3qIBwrfwPMJoQRPmeyR zYb8XpQu0XtuyVkdrURgxNXdCmoKAusERTRII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E3y1iOJjrNuVqmLkoOZ/E1v7Bw+TiR33O7hxfEXJtu5FcK9n7Eqmea0EXM5kE8UvoA bcEeifAOko078B0bcaspFqt9PMEVRGQ/wVHrGap2IkCnFMMJdVSjwsjbo+LHfDxxoSDh 0Rw6p30OeEYVDhzCBIfzxIGvbf814GPYrEeqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.139.8 with SMTP id m8mr7678732ybd.221.1239048512878; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:08:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061234h70bd30bt4dee6f5bd09789c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061308n37075058w198ed8959dd0c87a@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:08:40 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > All out of ideas. try with a script...maybe, i dnt know. > I understand there is always that way, but I'd like to figure out the proper way -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE6210660CF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098B28FC22 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so6827101gxk.19 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RpOsysLXnN0rmR1gB6u55RpmJnMnfRQunW4Sb/t9ALo=; b=eK+hjuuRRaXikRY2K7yKLuARLaLqibpXJa3I3iFEcnta0oa5RMmw2jfMSPcU+USXSh 03/qIrhMZG8wu3CInYayigZ8lEpfYvbFd50IhvO4MIB0LPFP5aXFE02sFfMgQMKNFGiQ hk5PcCaYbjhe6HLsR7ns+dBbgr1HqvnCG0nHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GvN8AQBwjFsuDy2TW9Oyb5Fgvkv/vaDVLkBquLDbaU8OI5F35jmivdxVv/pbsMLUuV k6McrwTbWlaVwE5gXXMZ6X/Q4viFln15dzFZKtLpHHbpkJCWfuo88eUAnPaUSfr2KsD0 kA8Y+f6g+sjbDnmEcbWQBWgSBVnk4eYDKKZ9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.149.19 with SMTP id w19mr1604299ybd.243.1239048650909; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:10:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:10:50 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Adam Vandemore Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:11:01 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Adam Vandemore wrot= e: > Brian A. Seklecki wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: >> >>> >>> =C2=A0cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run >>> >> >> $ uname -a >> There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause >> processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > I believe I have seen other causes of this issue since it happens on 7.1. > =C2=A0jkill takes care of it. =C2=A0Probably happens due to user error, h= ere at least. > > -- > Adam Vandemore > Systems Administrator > IMED Mobility > (605) 498-1610 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > dd# jkill jkill: Command not found. dd# i assume jkill isn't part of standard OS, right? --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:14:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A3F1065734 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F4D8FC22 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1992837bwz.43 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U5pISBV61R2fY5/j/sCXz6wK/AT6Mqn8gotaEMou6Gs=; b=I/vAQHCQ/xXsq5INkCIKE7VYLwZLSj3pIGNI64gAGy1dThcxn6mKQh0JpG1JKqPYn6 FkBKyu776GIhlLm1V1OsNIpFFyE2wdqofa5fn5V/WoVv5XL6d1T+JaHsQI4W+hT18gNL frIPMNn/JQBkQeY9EgcZD43yRC2lPyGghFKiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QarYBOaiwYT9Bbz64w5FhU4FqjBGUIPtFU5yDVAroUKTio1EoHoPoeHrxYPVjqPYuZ XoPiWkj1VX8qs8eZBzWKOLj/0O6OPvK9+L6Ye1Xj9fkjLp2LUnM6gLpFNg1Mzl7ESIDb 2//5nqlgLY7arjvGeCCjKZtBiZ/0qS2Yo9upk= Received: by 10.204.57.13 with SMTP id a13mr1988811bkh.205.1239048851796; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (ppp-94-69-68-78.home.otenet.gr [94.69.68.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p17sm954425fka.10.2009.04.06.13.14.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA6291.5030506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:14:09 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090330) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vandemore References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090406195323.GA30516@thought.org> <49DA6057.4090401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49DA6057.4090401@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:14:18 -0000 Adam Vandemore wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:02:07AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: >> >>> Tim Judd writes: >>> >>> >>>> I don't understand the "months/years" or "weeks/days" symptom of OOo. >>>> >>>> On my dual-core system at work, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU >>>> 6600 @ >>>> 2.40GHz >>>> >>>> Took about 4 hours. It only seemed to utilize only 1 CPU... my >>>> top always said <=50% CPU usage >>>> >>> For comparison: on a P4/2.26ghz/2 gbyte RAM, lightly loaded >>> with fairly fast SCSI disks, it takes 30+ hours. >>> >>> >>> Robert Huff >>> >> >> Sorry if this is getting old.... . >> >> I'm running two desktops, one 2.8GHz, this one 2.4. Both with >> "only" 1G ram. I useemy hardware pretty intensively, not lightly >> loaded, and building a full-blown OO takes at least three days. >> ---This is when I've got plenty of space. With fewer than 5G >> disk, forget it. That's why I want my next computer to be not >> only powerful but with diskspace to burn. >> >> >> >> > just got done compiling ooo3 devel on 1.4 gz pentium-m. I think it > took less than a day, 512 ram, nothing else running. > My tinderbox machine (see ports-mgmt/tinderbox and http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/README.html) builds this in 8 hours (assuming the distfiles are already available locally). It is a modest 2.5Ghz P4 with 2G RAM and plenty of disk space. I am also using ccache. I would be glad to make these packages available somewhere (this machine is constantly building packages anyway), but I don't have this kind of space available anywhere. If people care enough though, I could probably create a torrent. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:16:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B702210660F5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmail@websage.ca) Received: from herbert.sohotech.ca (herbert.sohotech.ca [216.86.96.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA188FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmail@websage.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost.sohotech.ca [127.0.0.1]) by herbert.sohotech.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD72358C22 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:58:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sohotech.ca Received: from herbert.sohotech.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (herbert.sohotech.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gvKyfW4ADAo8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from niven.sohotech.ca (S0106000475c7bc77.gv.shawcable.net [96.50.76.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by herbert.sohotech.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C4DA358C20 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:57:52 -0700 From: listmail@websage.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090406125752.3e303670@niven.sohotech.ca> In-Reply-To: <001636456e3838a1e40466e7b0c1@google.com> References: <001636456e3838a1e40466e7b0c1@google.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: where is spl_autoload found in PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:16:08 -0000 On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:13:06 +0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I saw Zend in the ports and so I'm hoping that some here use it and > can help me with this one. I've installed the latest stable Zend, > which is a little newer than what I found in ports, and I'm running > PHP version 5.2.8 (which I did install from ports). I'm going through > the Zend QuickStart guide > (http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-an-action-controller-and-view), > and ran into this error when loading the page at this point of the > quick start; > > Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Exception' with message > 'spl_autoload does not exist in this PHP installation' in > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php:206 > Stack trace: > #0 /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/public/index.php(18): > Zend_Loader::registerAutoload() #1 {main} thrown > in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php on > line 206 > > I've searched through the ports looking for auto and load in php5 > modules and I've found nothing (I did my searching at > freshports.org). I then did a make config in the /usr/ports/lang/php5 > directory but didn't see a check box for spl_autoload in the options. > How do I get this installed in my PHP installation? > cd /usr/ports/devel/php5-spl make install clean HTH, GM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:17:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FE210659AB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ADD8FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1449942yxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2+jy4kqebaJa9cXo+53VKwXVZery560sCiIONIl6z+o=; b=KDeUE65mHME0aoJiwmQElcLIEMOewQggZnaMYgkv5+Kh1LljKuCyTyTOmKWyFevfvz eXlJSgB21vB7CfYNK6XOMJgFFPsa4bRSz4rSRG/nN48+jFNd/6G/6sZmOCWqlg13gZkS JTnhesqeJEYRtnJypFIJTlVO2R932sU5x/bOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xVPBrog30mAHYQWWnXKcZomNP9UlsdP/vW/lSuqM0Iz/wlt5p4mXdcqyI1tmKRBVin zI+osQPkZvNObO85N/tcBWjhI9mzWy7l6hHza+AO6560HVCT+VimymeiQj0USc4sHonT 2piNKTXkC6qvJlwgNrTHkVY7qju6NXJglxLXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.108.2 with SMTP id g2mr4391740anc.137.1239049033777; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA6291.5030506@gmail.com> References: <20090405224918.GA41941@thought.org> <4ad871310904051841u1f127e83o234f730551c8eef0@mail.gmail.com> <20090406021022.GB41137@thought.org> <18905.32447.853120.350314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090406195323.GA30516@thought.org> <49DA6057.4090401@gmail.com> <49DA6291.5030506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904061317i5f181fa9p7d1f37a8bb4a9f99@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody know about a 3.01 package *With* browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:17:28 -0000 Hi, Manolis On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > My tinderbox machine (see ports-mgmt/tinderbox and > http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/README.html) builds this in 8 hours > (assuming the distfiles are already available locally). It is a modest > 2.5Ghz P4 with 2G RAM and plenty of disk space. I am also using ccache. > I would be glad to make these packages available somewhere (this machine > is constantly building packages anyway), but I don't have this kind of > space available anywhere. If people care enough though, I could probably > create a torrent. If you need a place to host this, I have plenty of space available on my site. I don't, however, have anything *on* my site. (I've been redeveloping it, and haven't uploaded any content yet.) If you want space to host this package, drop me an email off-list. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:20:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36C91065892 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3898FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n36KKLtk001653; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:20:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22D30BAAD; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:20:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:20:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090406202021.GA25679@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4ad871310904050141k11eda14vd8db9224f4384757@mail.gmail.com> <1ED100F1-51AE-478D-873C-40FF43EA17FB@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to recover after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:20:44 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 02:08:18PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: =20 > Okay, so my new database server is running with backup data and I am =20 > trying to salvage the old database, or what's left of it. >=20 > Unfortunately, it seems like what's left of it, is not much. >=20 > the /var/db/mysql directory tree is now a file: >=20 > qu# ls -l /var/db/mysql > -rwx------ 2 mysql wheel 1024 Jul 5 2008 /var/db/mysql Normally it shouldn't be possible to turn a directory into a file. Using open(2) to create a file that already exists as a directory should result in an error. > The situation looks hopeless to me. Is it? It might not be. Unless the data was actively wiped or overwritten, the data is probably still there on the disk in unallocated sectors. Forensic analysis programs like the sleuth kit [http://www.sleuthkit.org/sleuthkit/desc.php] _might_ be able to get some of the data back. But don't hold you breath. It's practically impossible to get data back from a modern drive once it has been overwritte= n. > Another question: given that the file system took a major hit, should =20 > I try to fix it, or just do a clean install? I'm leaning towards the =20 > clean install since I've been meaning to upgrade this machine to 7.1 =20 > anyway. I would advise you to make a copy of the disk contents with dd, so you can poke around in it at your leisure. Then check the disk with e.g. smartmontools or the tools provided by the manufacturer and to a clean install. > Is there anyway to fix the file system, reliably? fsck doesn't seem =20 > to be able to solve all the problems. Is that with fsck_ffs running in preen mode? If so, try it without the -p option. If that doesn't work you might contemplate using the -D option, but this can be dangerous; see fsck_ffs(8). If fsck_ffs even then cannot repair the damage, there's not much you can do except wipe the disk and reinstall. Also, check for loose (S)ATA cables. This can cause g_vfs_done errors while the disk is fine. If there are no obvious errors of that kind I'd be extra suspicious about disk hardware failure. If the drive is still in warranty, I'd have it replaced. If not, you might still think about replacing it. buying a new disk is almost certainly cheaper that trawling through a diskload of data trying to make sense of it... Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknaZAUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUKmwCggkWLgJo9OcLXq3ibzEdbE7A2 jNwAn3TIWE6fc4ZNxgRfZmySHtkPkuL1 =M65I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:26:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2321065848 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92E58FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1454881ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:26:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Pt7lw5Mxy5tkoZkYY73gpSCZ3pEH2asPpyI0dWHjrw=; b=DQRn0t5ADdm9TD443tHQqiTO2Eiphod+caYgcMey46boxf4Z7T7h48Obxn2tcnHDpu JzbMRC6LLGSgKYlJpkAmP43nMIdKhyKuZjlVCjUUyUN53Xsmt6/X9yiESRyncKyBDb2g letXYcl6V+HYOZGEvO/nVj2WlttYr85c/h6xI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hOv9SVaYphDChzwvSX0RuHmnqZ9MQ/Gs8pDF3o2S7/y7aIEInORBEE1orz5RTGTMg9 4PLZi9ujH54oYmlphDBKoI+fykAjXZZ7v/kOzA2unXkcJV3Y4SbmjYOwGDH5sUNpgJMr YM5MqMkHowoJiBoz32rsjI9OwztPMOFvYWT9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001636456e3838a1e40466e7b0c1@google.com> References: <001636456e3838a1e40466e7b0c1@google.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:04:21 -0400 Received: by 10.90.78.15 with SMTP id a15mr3309210agb.64.1239048277164; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750904061304v60074db1m104350779825550d@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov To: af300wsm@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: where is spl_autoload found in PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:26:34 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I saw Zend in the ports and so I'm hoping that some here use it and can help > me with this one. I've installed the latest stable Zend, which is a little > newer than what I found in ports, and I'm running PHP version 5.2.8 (which I > did install from ports). I'm going through the Zend QuickStart guide > (http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-an-action-controller-and-view), > and ran into this error when loading the page at this point of the quick > start; > > Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Exception' with message 'spl_autoload > does not exist in this PHP installation' in > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php:206 Stack > trace: #0 /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/public/index.php(18): > Zend_Loader::registerAutoload() #1 {main} thrown in > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php on line 206 > > I've searched through the ports looking for auto and load in php5 modules > and I've found nothing (I did my searching at freshports.org). I then did a > make config in the /usr/ports/lang/php5 directory but didn't see a check box > for spl_autoload in the options. How do I get this installed in my PHP > installation? devel/php5-spl - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:46:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16B31065795 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C3B8FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n36KklWI088243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <47952575-35FD-4733-9262-A6DAA3ACB762@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:46:46 -0700 References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:46:51 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:12, Chris Rees wrote: > Can > no-one can come up with a reply either quoting a mailing list or > giving the circumstances when: > > a) Background fsck caused data CORRUPTION > > _and_ > > b) A foreground fsck would not have done the same > > ? Yes. When background FSCK first became standard I let it go that way on my production servers. The first time we had a power issue that resulted in a shutdown of a server it tried to come back up when the power was restored. I have a large number of daemons that rely on configure files and other information that is reasonably frequently updated. Some of those files were in the process of being updated when it shut down. As a result background FSCK did not get around to those files till much after the daemons were up and running (or trying to run). Most of them worked ok at the beginning. However after FSCK resolved the problems, the underlying files changed. The daemons couldn't function at that point. While a simple reboot at that point fixed everything, that caused yet another outage for users. Hence, I disabled background FSCK. There have been a few power issues since then and there have been no recovery issues with foreground FSCK other than the restart takes a bit longer. This is reproducible since it happened on several different servers. However, I am not about to go back and subject users to additional downtime when a viable workaround that avoids the problem exists. I doubt that the concept of background FSCK is broken and I suspect that the implementation is good too. The issue is that some services really should not be started till after FSCK (either variety) has completed. I didn't see an easy way to do that using rc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 20:57:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A44106590A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4F38FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 56751 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 20:58:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 20:58:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:57:39 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:57:46 -0000 This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think something like the following should work, but I must have something wrong, because it doesn't: find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; What am I doing wrong? Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:06:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FF710656E6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE84C8FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 57796 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 21:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 21:06:42 -0000 In-Reply-To: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> References: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0DC256B7-C28C-40C8-837B-A3D18E858C3F@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:06:02 -0400 To: John Almberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:06:05 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 4:57 PM, John Almberg wrote: > This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... > > I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think > something like the following should work, but I must have something > wrong, because it doesn't: > > find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; > > What am I doing wrong? Oh, duh... that /dev/null shouldn't be there. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:08:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D0B1065713 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3658FC16 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lqw3H-00031u-4P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:20 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:19 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:19 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: alexus User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:23 -0000 On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:19:27 -0400, alexus wrote: a> I have bsnmpd enabled in rc.conf a> a> a> root@lama ~ 501$ grep ^b /etc/rc.conf a> bsnmpd_enable="YES" a> root@lama ~ 502$ a> a> yet, whenever I restart my computer, it won't start on boot, but if I a> run manual command a> a> /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start a> a> it starts fine no problem a> May be you have some broken script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ Try to add rc_debug="YES" to /etc/rc.conf reboot, and see in logs which script was started -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB4E106592D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811878FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lqw4w-00038c-E2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:02 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:02 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: John Almberg User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:04 -0000 On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:57:39 -0400, John Almberg wrote: JA> This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... JA> JA> I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think JA> something like the following should work, but I must have something JA> wrong, because it doesn't: JA> JA> find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; find . -type f -name '*.tar' -delete -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:11:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF2F106573E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from lmailproxy03.edpnet.net (lmailproxy03.edpnet.net [212.71.1.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481518FC19 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([77.109.107.220]) by lmailproxy03.edpnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n36LB5tL013998; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:11:10 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: John Almberg In-Reply-To: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> References: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:11:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1239052264.1152.0.camel@rivendell.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on lmailproxy03.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on lmailproxy03.edpnet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:11:13 -0000 On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:57 -0400, John Almberg wrote: > This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... > > I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think > something like the following should work, but I must have something > wrong, because it doesn't: > > find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; > find . -type f -name "*.tar" -delete > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks: John > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:11:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5811065A9E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40378FC1F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n36LBD78094870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36LBDq5035884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n36LBB6s035859; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:11 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090406211111.GF70541@dan.emsphone.com> References: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:11:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:11:18 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 06), John Almberg said: > This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... > > I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think something > like the following should work, but I must have something wrong, because > it doesn't: > > find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; find . -name "*.tar" -delete Make sure you quote your wildcards so the shell doesn't expand them, and use the -delete primary to save a fork/exec for each filename. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:13:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE1A10657F7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250128FC23 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so1478898waf.27 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=itGxuo7i82CIG4212GJSek+C5CG6jsdG/4K4hnXD7dA=; b=qbXuV1iSvTzGsJK9UcLcHO/uimYNETov36AyGG0/6Z2eB1A9Mo408qvMNJEhtirS1C TGdkw2j1whKf9qUfo7V4eECKQPWktb3sowC8tRVLuFBl1iSwrbLwau84O5KJYrsf5TeF AkOlZLOqw1nOQep9ryDJUxiPZH9bNpeRJ8ydg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PFrWoMuwLIR8fs3KNAEC4IJrFPafL6fgnVabgOrokoSypejAGHu5e+uvoj2g3463OA H85fqs+k2hWX3hTIxI89+Ae1AH/gx3F5dZSCYb9YfrePwITw/X1VLhCqEJsyhNHBl0qe ZFjHAyFmBk8puyWd09Rg/aAW16ej0aBdeF+Y4= Received: by 10.114.184.7 with SMTP id h7mr2498778waf.151.1239052414672; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm8525336pog.10.2009.04.06.14.13.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA7082.4020002@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:13:38 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:13:36 -0000 alexus wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Adam Vandemore wrote: > >> Brian A. Seklecki wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: >>> >>> >>>> cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run >>>> >>>> >>> $ uname -a >>> There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause >>> processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >> I believe I have seen other causes of this issue since it happens on 7.1. >> jkill takes care of it. Probably happens due to user error, here at least. >> >> -- >> Adam Vandemore >> Systems Administrator >> IMED Mobility >> (605) 498-1610 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > dd# jkill > jkill: Command not found. > dd# > > i assume jkill isn't part of standard OS, right? > > right, it's here: /usr/ports/sysutils/jailutils -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:26:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB27106570D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2F78FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46E95423C1; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4481042396 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: duane@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.hill@yournetplus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:26:37 -0000 On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, alexus wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Adam Vandemore wrote: >> Brian A. Seklecki wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run >>>> >>> >>> $ uname -a >>> There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause >>> processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. >>> >> I believe I have seen other causes of this issue since it happens on 7.1. >> jkill takes care of it. Probably happens due to user error, here at least. > > dd# jkill > jkill: Command not found. > dd# > > i assume jkill isn't part of standard OS, right? Correct. It can be found here: /usr/ports/sysutils/jkill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:48:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEA010657CE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02F68FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA9004AB1C8; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:48:01 +0100 Message-ID: <49DA7891.6090708@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:48:01 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:48:03 -0000 Hmm Polytropon you seem to be dismissing my idea with minor examples. I am convinced it could work, and that people would appreciate it. I've tried to answer your points, apologies if I have misunderstood any of them. Polytropon wrote: > Compiling applications in general will lead you into one > main problem: Many ports have different options that need > to be set at compile time. For a set of n options, 2^n > packages would be created, if I consider the WITH_SOMETHING > options only. It's true but many ports would not be included in this desktop package set. I suspect still that plenty of people would be happy with defaults for many of the desktop apps. > > One example is mplayer. Its various options select which > codecs to include or if / if not to build with mencoder. > In regards of different national law, it may even be > prohibited to include a several codec, so it needs to > be installed afterwards manually. i think Matthew deals with this one in his later post. But ok maybe there are one or two ports for which you provide a binary with default config but many people recompile it anyway. They would still have all the dependencies already installed. Since we are talking about a fixed point ports tree then all the lib and dependency versions would match and - voila no problem. > > Another example is (you mentioned it) OpenOffice. In the > past, I was happy to do > > # pkg_add -r de-openoffice > > or something similar. Today, I'm happy that someone put > a precompiled package of OpenOffice online and announced > it on the de- mailing list. So you would be keen to have OO available. So would a few other people judging by the openoffice topic going at the moment. > > The topic internationalization comes into mind here. I'm > not sure how OpenOffice decides which language to use, > maybe this is to be set at compile time, too. Yes this occurred to me after I made my inital post but I think Matthew deals with this one as well. > > (Side note: I prefer good english language in my programs > instead of poor german translation which is quite bad. > OpenOffice, and in the past StarOffice, is the only > exception for me.) > > As you see, I am a big fan of pkg_add, but it doesn't work > in every case. No because the packages are built on a rolling ports tree. The crucial difference is that the whole thing is a type of ports-snapshot so everything matches. > > > > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:13:22 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Ports is rightly a flagship element of FreeBSD. The benefit is >> configureability and consistency. The obvious downside is it takes so >> long to update a desktop machine with a normal set of ports installed, >> particularly lower spec hardware or laptops. >> >> pkg_add somewhat addresses this but it doesn't work quite as well as >> ports because of possible version mismatches. > > It's always good to use an "integrated tool" such as portupgrade or > portmaster to get rid of such problems (like pkgdb -aF). It allows > automating the updating process, but as you know, something can > happen and the update stops during the night. yes this is a downside of upgrading by compiling from ports, regardless of whether you use portmanager portupgrade or portmaster. I'm trying to avoid the necessity of the update happening through the night at all. > > > >> Modify pkg_add so that it can be told to use this 'snapshot' including >> downloading the fixed ports tree that was used. > > You can tell pkg_add to get packages from a completely differnent > place, this doesn't need a modification of this system's program > itself. But a kind of "wrapper" would help here. The modification is that pkg_add with --ports-snapshot option (or a completely new utility) would hook into this "ports-snapshot" which consists of a ports tree and a set of packages which are built from 'this' ports tree. Maybe the only change is that pkg_add gets the ports tree snapshot from which the ports were built. I think it is also implicit that if you download a new snapshot you get the ports tree plus all the packages installed on your computer that have been upgraded since your last snapshot. You would not use it by downloading the ports tree snapshot and choosing only to upgrade certain ports. Compare freebsd-update which I think updates everything in your base system, not by you choosing which bits to update. > > > >> Some benefits to this system are >> [...] >> - don't need to mess with portupgrade etc. > > I always felt that tools like portupgrade make things easier, not > messier, but I'm oldfashioned, so don't give anything on my very > individual opinion. :-) Yes the ports-mgmt utilities are useful. Still quite a lot of list time is spent on problems around upgrading ports, regardless of the utility used to do the upgrading. A centrally managed set of packages would have access to a group of experts who would be able to fix problems quickly (using the time they didn't have to spend on answering questions on list :) ) > > > >> - it generally increases the useability of FreeBSD as a desktop system. > > Well, when we're talking about desktop systems, there are the > both two big philosophies: > > (a) install it once, use it then > > (b) always upgrade > > There are (reasonable) needs for both concepts, and they may > even mix. Thinking about the problems / difficulties that came > up with the recent X.org update, my X is still in (a) state. :-) (I have always had a lot of success with portmanager, would you be willing to try it? I would be interested to know the result) People who install once and don't upgrade aren't interested in either method. Some people will always want to roll their own with the ports system. But I reckon there are plenty who would appreciate a package system that worked _as well_ as the ports system, not "nearly as well". Which to me justifies my proposal :-) Actually your example of the problems with X is a good point. How much better would it be if you could pkg_add --ports-snapshot and you get everything upgraded with no hassle, including the new version of X. Sometimes there would be longer between updates because of major issues like the X one. Bottom line, I think it could work, I think if it was available people would use it. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 22:02:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B74B106578B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8429B8FC17 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A09000444B03; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:02:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:02:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> <49D789BD.7020103@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D789BD.7020103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:02:48 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> Compiling applications in general will lead you into one >> main problem: Many ports have different options that need >> to be set at compile time. For a set of n options, 2^n >> packages would be created, if I consider the WITH_SOMETHING >> options only. > >> One example is mplayer. Its various options select which >> codecs to include or if / if not to build with mencoder. >> In regards of different national law, it may even be >> prohibited to include a several codec, so it needs to >> be installed afterwards manually. >> >> Another example is (you mentioned it) OpenOffice. In the >> past, I was happy to do >> >> # pkg_add -r de-openoffice >> >> or something similar. Today, I'm happy that someone put >> a precompiled package of OpenOffice online and announced >> it on the de- mailing list. > > Hmmm... I was thinking about this the other day. There are two > classes of behaviour where OPTIONS functionality could be passed > down to the compiled pkg level. > > The first is where choosing an option /only/ affects the dependency > tree for a package. The phpMyAdmin port I maintain is like this: > by setting OPTIONS you can avoid installing some php modules -- the > phpMyAdmin code automatically detects the presence or absence of > those modules and does the right thing automatically. Adding an > interactive options menu to provide the same functionality when > installing from packages seems to me to be do-able, although I admit > to no great expertise at C programming. However, aside from meta- > ports, this sort of OPTIONS behaviour is probably fairly unusual in > the ports tree. > > The second case is far more common and far more interesting. This is > where toggling an option controls whether some sub-set of files get > installed or not, without any changes to other parts of the port. > Adding different localizations in many programs, or choosing which > out of a set of drivers for different pieces of hardware to install > (eg. in print/ghostscript8) are cases in point. Now, one answer to > providing the full flexibility of such a port when installed via > packages is simply to split up the port into a lot of smaller ports, > which reduces the problem to the previous one of using OPTIONS to > control the dependency tree. The various different php5 modules are > a good example of this sort of approach in practice. The disadvantages > are exploding the number of directories within the ports tree, requiring > maintainers for all of the newly created tiny little ports and generally > increasing the amount of work it takes to maintain everything. > > Now, one way of alleviating some of the the maintenance burden would be > a fairly simple idea I had. At the moment, there's a one-to-one > relationship between port directories in the ports tree and the packages > installed from them. But that doesn't have to be so: why can't typing > 'make install' in a port directory end up installing several different > packages? Seems quite feasible to me to install a number of sub-ports > as one operation. > > One final note: there's a degenerate case of this behaviour for virtually > all ports in the tree. When installing from ports, you can set > 'NOPORTDOCS' and 'NOPORTEXAMPLES' to avoid installing documentation or > examples respectively. When installing from packages you don't get that > capability. Having foo-docs-n.nn.nn and foo-examples-n.nn.nn sub-ports > would give you that. > > cheers, > > Matthew > You've suggested solutions to a couple of Polytropon's objections, thank you. Do you think there is anough mileage in my suggestion to make it worth putting in front of some ports people? What would have to happen to take it forward? I could rewrite the proposal more clearly. I suspect it would be easier to implement than freebsd-update, as a good deal of the infrastructure already exists, and would have similar benefits. To start developing it would require a ports tree and a selection of packages compiled from that ports tree. 7.2 Release is coming up. Maybe the ports tree plus packages from that would be a good place to start. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 22:22:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7CA1065677 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832138FC1A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-121-222.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.121.222]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597D03F41D; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n36MLjxe001880; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:21:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:21:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Whitehouse Message-Id: <20090407002145.2dd01c18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49DA7891.6090708@onetel.com> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> <49DA7891.6090708@onetel.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:22:04 -0000 On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:48:01 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hmm Polytropon you seem to be dismissing my idea with minor examples. Actually not, because I'm a big fan of pkg_add -r. :-) I honestly run older machines, the oldest one is a P1 150MHz with 128 MB EDO-RAM where compiling is no fun at all, even a 5.x kernel needs 24 hours. And with the new optimizing cc, it would surely need much more time. If I could install, let's say, FreeBSD 7.1 on that system, use freebsd-update to follow the security updates, and then install software as new as possible (via a pkg_add -r like means), this machine would make a good server without any problems. Well, I even used it as a serious workstation, this should still be possible. > It's true but many ports would not be included in this desktop package > set. I suspect still that plenty of people would be happy with defaults > for many of the desktop apps. I think so, too. My favourite example, mplayer, would be one of the few problematic points, because usually a desktop user wants all the codes, even those that are illegal in his country. > i think Matthew deals with this one in his later post. But ok maybe > there are one or > two ports for which you provide a binary with default config but many > people recompile it anyway. They would still have all the dependencies > already installed. Yes, and it's mostly okay to get them through a regular pkg_add -r call. Let me give this example: When I'm about to install mplayer on an otherwise fresh system, I don't start an mplayer build in order to compile everything needed. I usually hit ^C as soon as I see a line of "... depends on ... not found" and add this via pkg_add -r. If there are dependencies for such a dependency, they will be installed as well. So I finally end up compliling mplayer, and not Gnome or other heavy stuff. > Since we are talking about a fixed point ports tree > then all the lib and dependency versions would match and - voila no problem. Exactly. Because the sources of pkg_add -r are usually a bit older than the port mplayer itself, there may be slightly different version numbers. But in most cases, it doesn't matter because we're talking about subsubminor version numbers. > > Another example is (you mentioned it) OpenOffice. In the > > past, I was happy to do > > > > # pkg_add -r de-openoffice > > > > or something similar. Today, I'm happy that someone put > > a precompiled package of OpenOffice online and announced > > it on the de- mailing list. > > So you would be keen to have OO available. So would a few other people > judging by the openoffice topic going at the moment. Yes, I completely agree with that. As far as I know, the correct internationalisation *requires* compiling. A precompiled OO in English cannot be made a German one. > > (Side note: I prefer good english language in my programs > > instead of poor german translation which is quite bad. > > OpenOffice, and in the past StarOffice, is the only > > exception for me.) > > > > As you see, I am a big fan of pkg_add, but it doesn't work > > in every case. > > No because the packages are built on a rolling ports tree. The crucial > difference is that the whole thing is a type of ports-snapshot so > everything matches. Well, the precompiled packages are somewhat -STABLE every time. There is no exactly RELEASE, except you're using the RELEASE system without updating, and then the packages from the CD. Or the packages for RELEASE from the FTP server. In every other case, the Latest packages are used which may bring up problems with a system that is not up to date. > yes this is a downside of upgrading by compiling from ports, regardless > of whether you use portmanager portupgrade or portmaster. I'm trying to > avoid the necessity of the update happening through the night at all. That's why I do "install once, use then". :-) > The modification is that pkg_add with --ports-snapshot option (or a > completely new utility) would hook into this "ports-snapshot" which > consists of a ports tree and a set of packages which are built from > 'this' ports tree. Maybe the only change is that pkg_add gets the ports > tree snapshot from which the ports were built. That would preserve the consistency of ports and packages. While you can use the sup files for "make update" to specify a certain point in time of the ports tree, I think you cannot to the samt with a package, let's say "pkg_add -date=2009-01-01 -r xmms" to fit a requirement of a local ports tree dated at this timestamp. > I think it is also implicit that if you download a new snapshot you get > the ports tree plus all the packages installed on your computer that > have been upgraded since your > last snapshot. You would not use it by downloading the ports tree > snapshot and choosing only to upgrade certain ports. Again, this is a good idea which would also preserve consistency. You could binary upgrade your whole system without getting into trouble with a certain version changing. > Compare > freebsd-update which I think updates everything in your base system, not > by you choosing which bits to update. Yes, I think it does so. Read: I didn't find an evidence yet to assume it does not. :-) Especially for servers, this method is very welcome for me. > Yes the ports-mgmt utilities are useful. Still quite a lot of list time > is spent on problems around upgrading ports, regardless of the utility > used to do the upgrading. A centrally managed set of packages would have > access to a group of experts who would be able to fix problems quickly > (using the time they didn't have to spend on answering questions on list > :) ) Yeah. :-) Furthermore, there could be short "publications" according to the existing /usr/ports/UPDATING, e. g. mentioning that *if* you're upgrading your system, including X, you will need this and that modification, or it won't work anymore. > >> - it generally increases the useability of FreeBSD as a desktop system. > > > > Well, when we're talking about desktop systems, there are the > > both two big philosophies: > > > > (a) install it once, use it then > > > > (b) always upgrade > > > > There are (reasonable) needs for both concepts, and they may > > even mix. Thinking about the problems / difficulties that came > > up with the recent X.org update, my X is still in (a) state. :-) > (I have always had a lot of success with portmanager, would you be > willing to try it? I would be > interested to know the result) The problem I fear... yes, let me call it that way... is not the compiling itself. It's the work afterwards - the work needed to make things work again (in regards of X: the HAL and DBUS stuff, eventually changes of the configuration files). Because I don't have the disk capacity to make backups of the (almost properly) working system prior to the upgrade, I might be stuck with a non- functioning system that makes me wish that I had better waited for 7.2-RELEASE and reinstalled everything completely from scratch. That's not a big deal at home. > People who install once and don't upgrade aren't interested in either > method. I don't think that this is always this way. I can't speak for others, of course, but I'd like to profit from updates, and if it's only if I decide to install a new application, just to have a look at it, and maybe pkg_delete it afterwards. The problem that needed libraries aren't present make this very complicated. To give you an example: I had a 5.x installation that worked perfectly since July 2008. Allthoug I sometimes wanted to install something new, this wasn't possible without reinstalling everything else. The reason was that the system used XFree86, and from some point in time, applications for X changed their dependencies from XFree86 to X.org. So there was no comfortable way to install something for X. Today, I have this problem again. I wanted to have a look at the program Audacious (ex Audacity), but after installing it, I only got /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgio-2.0.so.0" not found, required by "audacious" And I didn't get Gtk 2 to compile (problem with this FAM stuff), and I stopped trying. > But I reckon there are plenty who would appreciate a package > system that worked _as well_ as the ports system, not "nearly as well". > Which to me justifies my proposal :-) That's completely possible. At least I would enjoy a way to binary- upgrade all the applications in a way pkg_add -r works for single applications. > Actually your example of the problems with X is a good point. How much > better would it be if you could pkg_add --ports-snapshot and you get > everything upgraded with no hassle, including the new version of X. > Sometimes there would be longer between updates because of major issues > like the X one. That's a good point. The issues with X actually make me think that I better leave my hands off my home PC until 7.2-RELEASE, and then install everything from scratch and add my minor modifications to the system (things like /etc/hosts 'n stuff, you know). > Bottom line, I think it could work, I think if it was available people > would use it. Well, I would. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 22:39:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F343710658EC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A298FC2F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A0900044A3D3; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:39:49 +0100 Message-ID: <49DA84B5.1020205@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:39:49 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <49d7e719.Ck/vxbahdDom2nM0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <49d7e719.Ck/vxbahdDom2nM0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:39:54 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. >> Make that ports tree available as part of this package system and >> compile a typical desktop set of ports ... > > Isn't this exactly what is currently done as part of a release? The > ports tree is tagged so that a snapshot can be retrieved using csup, > and packages are built for publication on (for example) > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/ It is but the difference in what I am imagining is the frequency which would be much higher than releases. And answering more than your question, the difference between this and the pkg_add system is that this is based on a fixed ports tree, whereas pkg_add is based on a rolling ports tree, so " > > Granted this includes all package-distributable ports rather than a > "typical desktop" subset. I know you wrote something else but I am too tired to respond or rather to read it properly tonight. Tomorrow... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 22:59:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10071065711; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB57A8FC0C; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2205421wfg.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5wfjNzTkVoqK4nHgpjVBHqAWUxdna3PglOjOM5N1xcs=; b=E7GkrisgM5ld2+DFHSE/D3PyWhe4WboMmn9mx8RoXbM+LMxDgov/VmK2My5QYorp3i zLklENlr84sS5go1xdltJ+EXOSNY2kkWHsLKPXo130L7lRCt6Z22MbCs3bMfAyiytRd5 K7AvJzwSGVII0glSLmj3K/gAnxS5opB+BNX6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D2yJ15jSQBE5x3myPlc2z8BzEKnXMyJmRL66wQq4RHKJz+ekSWX/oXP6DnV02nYXDe a6K/Ok7tVKBjs+IFmsRFX4uFz6RQg0/yn4Mv4dpiHkzPzHyc51kAnr4PuuO18BuRTQez gqsGq9HIjqqKfHhuhTgfaPbyBDbi3gMpwX35Q= Received: by 10.142.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr1413345wfb.200.1239058781095; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279726050.dsl.bell.ca [76.71.17.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm7875764wfc.24.2009.04.06.15.59.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA895F.1000508@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:59:43 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: xf86-video-intel-2.6.3 resolution issues [fixed?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:59:42 -0000 After removing HorizSync and VertRefresh from xorg.conf xrandr happily shows #xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1600 VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 306mm x 230mm 1600x1200 65.0* 1280x1024 75.0 1280x960 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0 43.5 832x624 74.6 800x600 85.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x480 85.0 75.0 72.8 66.7 59.9 720x400 87.8 70.1 Though, using the default of 1600x1200 redraw is slow, jittery. and seeing this in the Xorg.log exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! (--) PCI: (0@0:2:1) Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated Graphics Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfe00000/524288 (this seems to be repeated after first run of mplayer, or vlc: (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 35.50 720 738 846 900 400 421 423 449 -hsync -vsync (39.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 44.90 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 772 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (35.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (43.3 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 56.25 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (53.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450 (II) intel(0): direct rendering: XF86DRI Enabled (--) RandR disabled (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0 (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/i915_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 306 x 230 vgapci0@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x030000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x25828086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 vgapci1: mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 23:10:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC46B1065735 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813038FC1A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 72048 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 23:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 23:10:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090406211111.GF70541@dan.emsphone.com> References: <5BF30BAA-2B35-46C8-8257-56B077D00A8C@identry.com> <20090406211111.GF70541@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4D0D0EC0-6547-4D04-9006-D5CE128C4DB1@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:10:04 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: How to remove all files with a certain extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:10:07 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Apr 06), John Almberg said: >> This is a real newbie question, but I can't figure it out... >> >> I want to remove all .tar files from a directory tree. I think >> something >> like the following should work, but I must have something wrong, >> because >> it doesn't: >> >> find . -name *.tar -exec rm /dev/null {} \; > > find . -name "*.tar" -delete > > Make sure you quote your wildcards so the shell doesn't expand > them, and use > the -delete primary to save a fork/exec for each filename. Fantastic. I never noticed the -delete option before. Amazing what you can find in a man page if you know it's there :-) Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 23:25:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700CF1065764 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C838FC17 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 73628 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 23:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 23:25:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:25:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:25:06 -0000 Because of a big problem I had this weekend, I need to do an emergency backup. I'm basically just creating a tar file of my /home directory. My question: how big can a file get on FreeBSD? This tar.gz file is already 5G. Hard drive space is no problem, but as I'm watching this file grow, I'm wondering if there is some file size limit that is going to make this long backup abort. Naturally, that will happen when the backup is almost complete :-) -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 23:28:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CF110657D1 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3DE8FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1504191yxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JVqYi3vd/7BfqtJwXXYuG5y76YGGsCnKfD9BQRqglZc=; b=kfTHsRkjq4XacVDp0S/sVlLj2Fd+gWTlncFnMF1/jlnQyCB7LeEKEofiy8HvjaTygb SE56n5Nq2KsKKml1tF0tYOn9QZNfSd6Tm5uTPYpETw6WRDInGIomJj/2w6o1wCI5YQ9M 871xmwDWMjMX7L5JCiNs4c9kOlXxbXrmiwaHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EWutOFwtS8JnNUcSecmFFQWG8pw7SY+Y9fqeXhGryhSnWPDx+hv0wESPn0aClLVnDH Cqc9hcw+ojZG2LQWP+/4fbNEy3x7LetqWT9XIiOYJlUzvtEBAVQMBFf5QfwJQ6mIaXVv y6WuqTBDJUmzOCveplLTbRFxxHXp9H96RE93w= Received: by 10.90.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr3502642agb.66.1239060526064; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm7085387agb.59.2009.04.06.16.28.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA9032.7040601@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:28:50 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:28:47 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > Because of a big problem I had this weekend, I need to do an emergency > backup. I'm basically just creating a tar file of my /home directory. > > My question: how big can a file get on FreeBSD? This tar.gz file is > already 5G. Hard drive space is no problem, but as I'm watching this > file grow, I'm wondering if there is some file size limit that is > going to make this long backup abort. > > Naturally, that will happen when the backup is almost complete :-) > > -- John > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System Max file size 2^73 bytes (8 ZiB ) -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 23:54:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AC31065827 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005D38FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24F19017; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:54:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:54:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:54:13 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090407005413.4c12d2b2@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> References: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:54:24 -0000 On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:25:03 -0400 John Almberg wrote: > Because of a big problem I had this weekend, I need to do an > emergency backup. I'm basically just creating a tar file of my /home > directory. > > My question: how big can a file get on FreeBSD? This tar.gz file is > already 5G. Hard drive space is no problem, but as I'm watching this > file grow, I'm wondering if there is some file size limit that is > going to make this long backup abort. > > Naturally, that will happen when the backup is almost complete :-) With the default blocksize (16384) UFS2 can deal with files up to 128TB. However traditional tar only supports up to 8GB while the newer ustar format goes up to 64GB. It seems that at least on 7.x tar creates ustar archives by default. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 23:54:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E9210657EA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E588FC21 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 76816 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2009 23:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 23:55:08 -0000 In-Reply-To: <49DA9032.7040601@gmail.com> References: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> <49DA9032.7040601@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:54:29 -0400 To: Adam Vandemore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:54:32 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Adam Vandemore wrote: > John Almberg wrote: >> Because of a big problem I had this weekend, I need to do an >> emergency backup. I'm basically just creating a tar file of my / >> home directory. >> >> My question: how big can a file get on FreeBSD? This tar.gz file >> is already 5G. Hard drive space is no problem, but as I'm watching >> this file grow, I'm wondering if there is some file size limit >> that is going to make this long backup abort. >> >> Naturally, that will happen when the backup is almost complete :-) >> >> -- John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System > > Max file size 2^73 bytes > (8 ZiB ) That should just about do it... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 00:00:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2F11065692 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FDD8FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-157-61-189.bna.bellsouth.net [70.157.61.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n36NRPgL021497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:27:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49DA895F.1000508@gmail.com> References: <49DA895F.1000508@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tGylvwm4woH5tj+vdjLw" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:27:55 -0500 Message-Id: <1239060475.1908.4.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xf86-video-intel-2.6.3 resolution issues [fixed?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:00:13 -0000 --=-tGylvwm4woH5tj+vdjLw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:59 -0400, Jimmie James wrote: > After removing HorizSync and VertRefresh from xorg.conf xrandr happily=20 > shows > #xrandr > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1600 > VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)=20 > 306mm x 230mm > 1600x1200 65.0* > 1280x1024 75.0 > 1280x960 60.0 > 1152x864 75.0 > 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0 43.5 > 832x624 74.6 > 800x600 85.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 > 640x480 85.0 75.0 72.8 66.7 59.9 > 720x400 87.8 70.1 >=20 > Though, using the default of 1600x1200 redraw is slow, jittery. > and seeing this in the Xorg.log > exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! All indications are that this is harmless... robert. >=20 > (--) PCI: (0@0:2:1) Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated Graphics=20 > Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfe00000/524288 >=20 > (this seems to be repeated after first run of mplayer, or vlc: > (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160=20 > 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601=20 > 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601=20 > 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481=20 > 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489=20 > 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483=20 > 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490=20 > 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 35.50 720 738 846 900 400 421=20 > 423 449 -hsync -vsync (39.4 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412=20 > 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688=20 > 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768=20 > 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768=20 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768=20 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 44.90 1024 1032 1208 1264 768=20 > 768 772 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (35.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625=20 > 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601=20 > 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637=20 > 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864=20 > 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481=20 > 484 509 -hsync -vsync (43.3 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 56.25 800 832 896 1048 600 601=20 > 604 631 +hsync +vsync (53.7 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768=20 > 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960=20 > 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688=20 > 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) > (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160=20 > 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) > (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450 >=20 > (II) intel(0): direct rendering: XF86DRI Enabled > (--) RandR disabled >=20 > (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0 > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control > (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support > (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 > (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 306 x 230 >=20 >=20 >=20 > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:1: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x25821043 chip=3D0x25828= 086 > rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > device =3D '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device' > class =3D display > subclass =3D VGA > vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB > info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 > vgapci1: mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device > 2.1 on pci0 >=20 --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-tGylvwm4woH5tj+vdjLw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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(jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 00:23:20 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20090407005413.4c12d2b2@gluon.draftnet> References: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> <20090407005413.4c12d2b2@gluon.draftnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:22:40 -0400 To: Bruce Cran X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:22:43 -0000 > > With the default blocksize (16384) UFS2 can deal with files up to > 128TB. > However traditional tar only supports up to 8GB while the newer ustar > format goes up to 64GB. It seems that at least on 7.x tar creates > ustar archives by default Well, I'm already past 10GB, so good thing I'm on 7.1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 00:36:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7354110656DD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC158FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n370aCSk015803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:36:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n370aBAd064397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:36:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n370aAUT064396; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:36:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:36:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20090407003610.GG70541@dan.emsphone.com> References: <30D89A0A-A607-4513-AEA2-DB16A1609BDD@identry.com> <20090407005413.4c12d2b2@gluon.draftnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090407005413.4c12d2b2@gluon.draftnet> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:36:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How big can a tar file get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:36:13 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 07), Bruce Cran said: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:25:03 -0400 John Almberg wrote: > > Because of a big problem I had this weekend, I need to do an emergency > > backup. I'm basically just creating a tar file of my /home directory. > > > > My question: how big can a file get on FreeBSD? This tar.gz file is > > already 5G. Hard drive space is no problem, but as I'm watching this > > file grow, I'm wondering if there is some file size limit that is going > > to make this long backup abort. > > > > Naturally, that will happen when the backup is almost complete :-) > > With the default blocksize (16384) UFS2 can deal with files up to 128TB. > However traditional tar only supports up to 8GB while the newer ustar > format goes up to 64GB. It seems that at least on 7.x tar creates ustar > archives by default. I think you're referring to the maximum size of a file tar can store; the total size of a tarfile has no limit, since it's a streaming format. Each stored file is independant of previous or later files, and there is no summary file-list either in the front or at the end. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 00:50:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D24F10656E0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JHALL@SOCKET.NET) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5d.socket.net [216.106.26.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAC68FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JHALL@SOCKET.NET) Received: from [10.129.40.200] (216.106.12.48.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.48]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241575EB09 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3C70BDDB-CC92-444D-A26E-F24CAA44B82E@SOCKET.NET> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:50:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Controllers/Drives renumbered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:50:26 -0000 Earlier today, I installed a new HP SCSI (HP SmartArray 642)controller and an HP Drive Array in my company's HP ML 350 G5. The system drive which had been da0 became da1 and the new controller became da0. Unfortunately, I cannot rearrange the controllers in the system since one is PCI-X and one is PCI Express. Is it possible to force FreeBSD 6.2 to detect the cards in a particular order so my drives are not renumbered. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 01:17:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E799710656FF for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBC38FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1531226ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GS2ux4Ul/Qo4mZ1FldDznGWUZOD5OYN0xLfufnHovqk=; b=bmd3y8jfM7xxmqnQGrMnvBQ8AyxC4F7CGmtL2ShqCVup6ofvAbSw/J091HBrs42Kjf DHLwgVq9/H78RhHTtJMvDT7L3ycztxmo8M3gPD7uzqFaXo3grAwAr4mk4YFy83/IKTRv awjC5YPl2fz/H5RIh88qEm16S5RHteNRTmiK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=onK/IVJQg1Jf4xNBeZHLq472E+qCz0N3QUHAtxE8ITUUikZv7O4owVp+Yr8hdPn89M ZAqM3clyJFy0B7Pmggbs3QewZuGsPmZ0TyitOguE+GYntRfMC4O5o127Cc3nun0oMq43 1bMVurM5oYPU+0bYw7yDVZfVcJ6MQXMm/aApM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.136.10 with SMTP id j10mr2036789ybd.222.1239067023182; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061227t3af4bc8bk648125964cdad5f7@mail.gmail.com> <1239046955.16390.2197.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <49DA5CE1.7060504@gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061310v14fdb088l8b1c676a2de2f08e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:17:03 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061817l3c1264ebka1a3793e16554a91@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: d.hill@yournetplus.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:17:04 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Duane Hill wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, alexus wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Adam Vandemore >> wrote: >>> >>> Brian A. Seklecki wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:27 -0400, alexus wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0cannot stop jail mx. No jail id in /var/run >>>>> >>>> >>>> $ uname -a >>>> There were problems with TTY code in older versions that would cause >>>> processes to get stuck, ghosting jails. >>>> >>> I believe I have seen other causes of this issue since it happens on 7.= 1. >>> =C2=A0jkill takes care of it. =C2=A0Probably happens due to user error,= here at >>> least. >> >> dd# jkill >> jkill: Command not found. >> dd# >> >> i assume jkill isn't part of standard OS, right? > > Correct. It can be found here: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/ports/sysutils/jkill > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > okay, but freebsd thinking about fixing it? or did someone submit a bug report (or are they already aware of that?) --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 01:36:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF490106571A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9889D8FC0C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1535665ywh.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:36:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oShapOpwIpC35GKwFMdHIZVNFHj2V5b1ey5A7yML/RE=; b=TtFHSBxY1hRVME6qcI6ojA6mlNw8MWXnoy+2QuXjAwqTGzHQbhzwUS4I5GM6Y8jV0G yZhvKc9dtP5Zb8pZnaigEotBzoGj1T1HMtI7Xh9v8W8ktJnr9NqSHe1MacTCYG1yGNRz eY4D38CaixY8XiAtpI1AAZQs4pplIdN0BMF/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RsF0EacVqTfZnC1wNKr+1bonnrOaGoyZb2QMMBANKPfyiDE2Kl75ia3nuwsrXPwPrQ tt/t2F64Q47ez5b5a/FqaVFBiCc3v6CXQ2F2JHDfLtDG6JTArbYsgwFW5HHl4pPg28KF MS0Pd9s/bEndY9tr2n/q3r8HfKsHHGh1myK9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.43.19 with SMTP id v19mr9398942ybj.206.1239068199010; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:36:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:36:38 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904061836q37e1c9afqe476a0475c3cd34a@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Anton Yuzhaninov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:36:40 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:19:27 -0400, alexus wrote: > a> I have bsnmpd enabled in rc.conf > a> > a> > a> root@lama ~ 501$ grep ^b /etc/rc.conf > a> bsnmpd_enable=3D"YES" > a> root@lama ~ 502$ > a> > a> yet, whenever I restart my computer, it won't start on boot, but if I > a> run manual command > a> > a> /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start > a> > a> it starts fine no problem > a> > > May be you have some broken script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > > Try to add > rc_debug=3D"YES" to /etc/rc.conf > > reboot, and see in logs which script was started > > -- > =C2=A0Anton Yuzhaninov > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > it seems to be running on boot as it suppose only in host environment and not in jail, although as i mentioned before it can be run manually. --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 01:55:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5307C1065828 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2686E8FC0A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lr0XH-0006jA-Cp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:55:35 -0700 Message-ID: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:55:35 -0700 (PDT) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com Subject: portupgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:55:36 -0000 Hi, Silly question... when I use portupgrade on gnome installs, it interrupts itself a lot to prompt for config options. I normally take all the defaults. Is there a way to use portupgrade without all the stopping for config questions? I'd like to leave my laptop alone over-night doing a portupgrade of gnome... etc without baby-sitting it. If something does happen to get built without a setting I want, I can always redo it later, but for 95% of all the builds, I take the defaults and would rather not be prompted on those. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/portupgrade-question-tp22920813p22920813.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 01:59:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780EB10656D8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5E8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1485815and.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fZ2a1ZX4YCgZLx69bn7PGPlDK66svaKKXNBEYm8KtJ4=; b=MYYC4h7wpWcPIeR7bJNL+uNs9kemVb1mEdgjgk/CBdIZ8pv/wi8mL0jaEE7o7zT6BN agQ0Sh7ZBzviSosxiQ3e63d7zetnLyz/te/5eH9NycMDM3Wx8eBgPJJYG9OfvxHiPWX3 HQGgOFdrXAH/aXUyb/IHqhoRnEIPnpIUmeJCE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v+lsDN7xcpb59I0BAB2bHairpT2mXfBJaYc6Q77DyqPorvb7eKiCdq2ZV1bzQxXdNF TpNkFZ1/ICw8lMBBkhEo4aNzp8tWAaOSAv7j37QFVyISMao+60Y+FqLxlp3jR8tUbU7M 5SP9cQaue/Ml0uUaigGlhE+U0nc2KQWdsyeHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.214.15 with SMTP id m15mr9746067ang.37.1239069551727; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:59:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:59:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904061859m7072d073w4e876aa6a8f7a6b1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: new_guy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:59:13 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM, new_guy wrote: > > Hi, > > Silly question... when I use portupgrade on gnome installs, it interrupts > itself a lot to prompt for config options. I normally take all the defaults. > Is there a way to use portupgrade without all the stopping for config > questions? I'd like to leave my laptop alone over-night doing a portupgrade > of gnome... etc without baby-sitting it. If something does happen to get > built without a setting I want, I can always redo it later, but for 95% of > all the builds, I take the defaults and would rather not be prompted on > those. > You could add: BATCH=yes to /etc/make.conf. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 02:32:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B911065774 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C918FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n372WiVa052562; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:32:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n372Wikf052559; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:32:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:32:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: new_guy In-Reply-To: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: References: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:32:48 -0000 On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, new_guy wrote: > Silly question... when I use portupgrade on gnome installs, it interrupts > itself a lot to prompt for config options. I normally take all the defaults. > Is there a way to use portupgrade without all the stopping for config > questions? I'd like to leave my laptop alone over-night doing a portupgrade > of gnome... etc without baby-sitting it. If something does happen to get > built without a setting I want, I can always redo it later, but for 95% of > all the builds, I take the defaults and would rather not be prompted on > those. 'portupgrade -c' causes it to show all the config screens first. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 03:19:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74C1065842 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.124.104.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5BA8FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 80745 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 03:19:06 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 80722, pid: 80740, t: 4.6647s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-11-86.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg@tls.net@64.184.11.86) by ssl-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 03:19:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:18:40 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:19:08 -0000 Good morning all, I have a situation where I am being instructed to allow a client to access MySQL remotely. We generally put those clients on a VPS and allow them free reign. In this case we cannot, they are on a shared host server. Opening our PIX to allow connections through to MySQL, and relying on MySQL security to be the sole protection, is not something I or my Network administrator is comfortable with. Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One running just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks, DAve -- "Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Quincy Adams http://appleseedinfo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 03:28:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DBA1065794 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94E18FC0A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n373O7kQ043386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:07 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n373SHdB081955; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:28:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:28:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904070328.n373SHdB081955@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: dave.list@pixelhammer.com In-reply-to: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> (message from DAve on Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:18:40 -0400) References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:28:20 -0000 Hi, > Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One running > just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. That is not answering your question directly, but MySQL works finr over an SSH tunnel. You'd have your users connect/authenticate with SSH first to establish the tunnel, then they'd use the tunnel to forward the NySQl connection. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 03:37:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5DA10657FC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B328FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from pd6ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.163]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 21:37:32 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=tekm_XskAAAA:8 a=dbxxcAQLOEyj0SgsqMkA:9 a=2KeUOJEMAdyE4LAUM4XDBexkaXgA:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 Received: from s010600121729c74c.vc.shawcable.net (HELO proven.lan) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd6ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2009 21:37:32 -0600 Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n373bV03083955 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n373bVo8083954 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke Organization: Archaeological Filing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:37:30 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904062037.30518.npapke@acm.org> Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:37:33 -0000 On April 6, 2009, DAve wrote: > Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One running > just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. It's just a matter of making sure that the two instances don't share any ports or files. It works well. You'll have to create a custom my.cnf file and start-up script for your second instance. More info: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/multiple-servers.html Remember to specify the alternate port when using programs such as 'mysql' command line client. Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 03:41:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D43910656E3 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.124.104.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C5B8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 70733 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 03:41:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 70715, pid: 70730, t: 0.1615s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-11-86.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg@tls.net@64.184.11.86) by ssl-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 03:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: <49DACB52.8030407@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:41:06 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <200904070328.n373SHdB081955@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200904070328.n373SHdB081955@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:41:28 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > >> Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One running >> just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. > > That is not answering your question directly, but MySQL works finr > over an SSH tunnel. > > You'd have your users connect/authenticate with SSH first to establish > the tunnel, then they'd use the tunnel to forward the NySQl > connection. I doubt the would be an option without a GUI to do everything for the user. I suggested a VPN which we can setup easily with a Cisco Client. No answer back from the account manager on that option. DAve -- "Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Quincy Adams http://appleseedinfo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 04:20:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B1F1065697 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FC98FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090407042017.HUNX11583.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.2.102]>; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:20:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:20:16 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5C4F1A401C316B7D2F625CCF@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <49DACB52.8030407@pixelhammer.com> References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <200904070328.n373SHdB081955@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49DACB52.8030407@pixelhammer.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:20:19 -0000 --On April 6, 2009 11:41:06 PM -0400 DAve wrote: > Olivier Nicole wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One >>> running just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. >> >> That is not answering your question directly, but MySQL works finr >> over an SSH tunnel. >> >> You'd have your users connect/authenticate with SSH first to establish >> the tunnel, then they'd use the tunnel to forward the NySQl >> connection. > > I doubt the would be an option without a GUI to do everything for the > user. I suggested a VPN which we can setup easily with a Cisco Client. > No answer back from the account manager on that option. > If your client needs a gui to access mysql, why not use phpmyadmin (or a similar gui-based admin utility) and restrict access to his IP(s)? You can do this with your firewall rules or by using .htaccess. You can also force SSL connections, which would protect against MITM attacks on a cleartext session. (You can also require SSL and secure auth for the db and restrict access by IP using the format username@fqdn, but you stated that you're not comfortable depending *only* upon mysql's security capabilities.) However, I would suggest that you provide, as you suggest, a separate instance of mysql just for this client as well. If they screw up the instance they won't affect other customers. To run a separate instance, I would suggest using different names for the binaries, conf files and datadir. This can be easily done using symlinks; e.g. mysql and mysql-special. Then copy the startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, rename it to mysql-special and edit it to change all references to the newly-named instance. Use a my-special.cnf file for the special instance and reference it in /etc/rc.conf using mysql_args=. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 04:47:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64861065747 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterwang@vip.qq.com) Received: from smtpbg95.qq.com (smtpbg95.qq.com [119.147.10.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 464ED8FC0C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterwang@vip.qq.com) X-QQ-mid: esmtp2t1239078744t12t32189 Received: from PETERWANG-PC (unknown [61.148.100.42]) by esmtp2.qq.com (ESMTP) with id ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:32:23 +0800 (CST) To: Paul Schmehl References: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> From: Peter Wang Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:31:56 +0800 In-Reply-To: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> (Paul Schmehl's message of "Sun\, 05 Apr 2009 18\:33\:22 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: illoai@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:47:40 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: yes, that's exactly what i want, thanks! -peter > --On April 5, 2009 6:13:57 PM -0400 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> 2009/4/5 Peter Wang : >>> >>> for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd >>> release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. >>> >>> so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? >>> thanks for your replies. >>> >> >> % which adduser >> /usr/sbin/adduser >> >> Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src >> rather than /usr/ports. >> >> Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably >> better on freebsd-questions than current. > > I think you misunderstood his question. > > This would be one way to do it: > > find /usr/ports/ -type f -exec grep -sq adduser {} \; -print > > Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already > obvious, my opinions are my own > and not those of my employer. > ****************************************** > WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 04:04:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4FA106568F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madhurjf@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E7A8FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madhurjf@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2675018tia.3 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:04:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WTtRdwBpQmYlXLXB6J7vnIQeMU79WEgTwXTjDwQjne8=; b=Cu15JGPdwoLRpFF7+gWIRVbgRp7ieI+IEBWsl8ghzgqCUnR3oeilstvte9n4hUmYsz RrxB2qfWaqyIAE7mBLNkhv3qGR/GeXQHCtR7ehVKwiZFvVSi3Oj/TlqPTFRJqeu37HqO CZta82UZnS/T0NNSzF9cLzM7raef4j9Q2I19k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jZiuRoYffyZ3Yi8cYsi7OAWPNs/HIPluQ+xhyMkRefSFrIKsq3GdSCvjDnz76GxcZs El0aHZs6vY+VSNfDwqhzRD4vNjVLlZFhKSiVIreowRSfQkoPyHPKfCscCTENiorLVwwK E1gD3vpYchK8UooaH2xZSMxnc35p0eUBtR0mI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.110.42.1 with SMTP id p1mr7473175tip.20.1239075731528; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:11 +0530 Message-ID: <8d32a6620904062042i21279afcwd6c83a23b5a774e1@mail.gmail.com> From: Madhusudan R To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:59:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: xinetd for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:04:26 -0000 Hi, I'd like to know the version of xinetd that can be run on FreeBSD 6.2. And where can I find it? Anything else I need to know before I start using xinetd on the aforemention platform. Thanks! Madhu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 05:04:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1AF1065756 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF198FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (relay8.neti.ee [88.196.174.139]) by HOT-Bounce1.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693DF94F6EA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:48:47 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from Relayhost2.neti.ee (Relayhost2 [88.196.174.142]) by MXR-8.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F4314A391 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:48:43 +0300 (EEST) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no Received: from boeing.kodu.lan (88-196-102-60-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [88.196.102.60]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29371420 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:48:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <49DADB2C.8030708@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:48:44 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090305) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ftpd: messages about maskurg and flagxfer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:04:22 -0000 Hello! I'm running a FTP server using standard FreeBSD ftpd on FreeBSD 7.1 (i386). From time to time I see these messages in the log: ftpd[4805]: Internal: flagxfer(0): no active transfer ftpd[4805]: Internal: maskurg() while no transfer Should I be worried? -- Toomas ... Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 05:55:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0891110656E5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14878FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lr4H1-0005f9-4j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:55:03 +0000 Received: from 61.148.100.42 ([61.148.100.42]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:55:03 +0000 Received: from peterwang by 61.148.100.42 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:55:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Peter Wang Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:36:50 +0800 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <2B08274BD5B112278E9DF1D2@Macintosh-2.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.148.100.42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FKzszIBRU2GOCSUL72Ti0jhF+AU= Sender: news Subject: Re: How to find out which ports contains a specified command. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:55:08 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: yes, that's exactly what i want, thanks. -peter > --On April 5, 2009 6:13:57 PM -0400 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> 2009/4/5 Peter Wang : >>> >>> for example, after i installed pfsense, which is based on freebsd >>> release 7.1, i found adduser command is missing. >>> >>> so how to find out which ports contains `adduser' command? >>> thanks for your replies. >>> >> >> % which adduser >> /usr/sbin/adduser >> >> Thus it is part of the base system, installed through /usr/src >> rather than /usr/ports. >> >> Also, as you are running (essentially) 7.x, this is probably >> better on freebsd-questions than current. > > I think you misunderstood his question. > > This would be one way to do it: > > find /usr/ports/ -type f -exec grep -sq adduser {} \; -print > > Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already > obvious, my opinions are my own > and not those of my employer. > ****************************************** > WARNING: Check the headers before replying > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 06:14:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08CC10657DC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy.belk@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AC68FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy.belk@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1894943qwb.7 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:14:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E6UTeNmGm5RFuEC78f2nkCUqq8AazXsYJ1WE3NstuRk=; b=TPaIH1bWpkg504kFNokvuHnsVFz8pdLkkXyhVxHiyZ061ibJthAR9kmsC/be5PyQr1 z/k6qaaFIG54dwgsXMZNoGFfrUUKmwrNH+yraHpZnc9H8IqZFzbUdVfSbUkrs3h8W92h +D1AtJg4Zdipa4whxEzbzF7Gz9JzL8nqlxBhc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eN3E3HQnzyMzk+P1Ic8ScDpXtus4YF8vnfBV3FrRphXo378dbloH5ZxEjP8GpgHsVj HE2/hhibIYsQJ9e9Gzd7WYXLpLMYVYqNWUje0YM09SaDeXIIxUw2adJ+kuRP60oLVRg3 oGlx7eUj39kvCzR5IBFUC9Z84UypouViF5H9A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8d32a6620904062042i21279afcwd6c83a23b5a774e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8d32a6620904062042i21279afcwd6c83a23b5a774e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:46:05 -0500 Received: by 10.229.82.76 with SMTP id a12mr1371541qcl.7.1239083180507; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <946140ad0904062246w175ba4ffk4002da927b045565@mail.gmail.com> From: Randy Belk To: Madhusudan R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xinetd for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:14:27 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Madhusudan R wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to know the version of xinetd that can be run on FreeBSD 6.2. And > where can I find it? > > Anything else I need to know before I start using xinetd on the aforemention > platform. > > Thanks! > Madhu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To install xinitd use the following command as root cd /usr/ports/security/xinetd/ && make install clean -- - Amiga, The Computer for the creative Mind! - UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. - People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use BSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 06:37:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F09106568C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6CE8FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n376bfRg048203; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:37:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n376bfRg048203 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1239086263; bh=a1yD0Vp+D8Ei0XyMe87+GJtX4bMQ5/BfJGnCw4iFfzg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49DAF4AF.4060104@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2007=20Apr=202009=2007:37:35=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090321)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Chris=20Whitehouse=20|CC:=20U ser=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=2 0new=20package=20system=20proposal|References:=20<49D76B02.4060201 @onetel.com>=20<20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de>=20<49D78 9BD.7020103@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com>| In-Reply-To:=20<49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200 .95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B =0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundar y=3D"------------enig5C4D5744808C3992173A39BC"; b=ZNuEECc2A3aoGGnJQAR4KZzUVdIQLfMy/JsjxAY2Hhy38CpqRsmXTsQhblq84ANia KqfYsw0HaOdbzoj5pzQtl0kFBClUJi100BDjk36+zeMgC+/jfVkjidq1nmQD/LElRE r4WgGPVF8vVfoDDqlUcvovZT3Xv9PGNOnCtl59lg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49DAF4AF.4060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:37:35 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> <49D789BD.7020103@infracaninophile.co.uk> <49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5C4D5744808C3992173A39BC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:37:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5C4D5744808C3992173A39BC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Whitehouse wrote: > You've suggested solutions to a couple of Polytropon's objections, than= k=20 > you. Do you think there is anough mileage in my suggestion to make it=20 > worth putting in front of some ports people? What would have > to happen to take it forward? I could rewrite the proposal more clearly= =2E Any well-considered proposal is interesting, and suitable fodder for the freebsd-ports@... mailing list. However you must be prepared for your=20 ideas to undergo some fairly rigourous critique by people who have spent a great deal of time in doing exactly the sort of operations you are talk= ing about. It can be pretty daunting -- remember though that it is your /ide= as/ that are being dissected: it's not a personal attack against you for havi= ng the temerity to try and suggest something. Also, as ever in the FreeBSD world, code speaks louder than words. It's = easy for anyone to come up with a proposal, hard to turn that into a prot= otype that demonstrates the validity of your ideas. Expect skepticism until yo= u have done that. =20 > I suspect it would be easier to implement than freebsd-update, as a goo= d=20 > deal of the infrastructure already exists, and would have similar=20 > benefits. To start developing it would require a ports tree and a=20 > selection of packages compiled from that ports tree. 7.2 Release is=20 > coming up. Maybe the ports tree plus packages from that would be a good= =20 > place to start. freebsd-update and portsnap existed only on Colin Percival's own machines= for quite some time, and then they were made available through ports befo= re=20 being accepted into the core system. That is the usual sort of progressi= on for any major new system modifications. The infrastructure may well exist, but don't assume that there is any spa= re capacity on it. Getting time on the ports build cluster for running expe= riments is not impossible, but it's somewhere way down the queue after the daily work of building packages for the FTP sites and testing the effects of bu= g fixes in the bsd.ports.mk infrastructure or important and highly intercon= nected groups of ports like xorg or gnome. Also, right before 7.2-RELEASE is pr= obably not the best time as that's when things are most hectic. Right /after/ 7.2-RELEASE would be better I think your basic idea of snapshotting the ports tree at regular interva= ls and building a self-consistent group of desktop related applications is a= pretty good one actually. You need to work a bit on the details -- for instance, is it worthwhile rebuilding (say) the X libraries if there have= been no changes to them since the previous snapshot? Also, I'd take a go= od look at exactly how the PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD groups deal with this prob= lem. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5C4D5744808C3992173A39BC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkna9LUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw5VgCeO4EUD5IK0WQGM+kzDGbfWCRm tToAn08NMsVvia1PTD2eATaXy34YcyES =UISp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5C4D5744808C3992173A39BC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 07:37:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E213210657AE for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B508FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2502841rvb.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jQ0J2q0QDT5QHttw7G9392CsDJU3O22RGQkrcH7DglU=; b=UOSSVHnOMuQr8CMAikg7xVlrCp7nYrK/dvnLSJ8JvPpWjgzAVP1Wkzxki6e/eVK3Yj ghPcKdRl/jJ/lSGxIGP0+4lcMtahWSAqOQvD0vCQgh4wjnF1k8YRoLhwiyOSH8A1QSbg vFqCSFLFMWIXABzyl63Ms3WOoVM61T06/wRMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nqFmvSLyIt10FQuJN/GhXjxWgO0TiWccnbuX0GJAhdizMgPT6F5MWmOMjvN5l4l+aO wVFLL2fiFmCLYKAkrKvpr1UxK8L5xMWyCaFi/SEkW8HpDmw3NCFTZSXQjguftFvj19Ny pMXxY9Godh5ABLsSH3qL1pI5liWr5GbvLgrr8= Received: by 10.140.173.17 with SMTP id v17mr2576048rve.3.1239089840285; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.76.70.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm21473305rvb.14.2009.04.07.00.37.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:36:09 +0700 From: kyanh To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20090407143609.1f83a844@icy.local> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: urxvt: input method problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:37:21 -0000 Hello all, `xvnkb` is a vietnamese keyboard and it currently works well on any GTK applications. It uses below settings in `$HOME/.bashrc`: /================= | export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim | export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/xvnkb.so.0.2.9 \================= But I cannot type any vietnamese in `urxvt`. I donnot how to get debug messages. I just know that I can type vietnamese easily with `urxvt` on my former Arch Linux. Thank you very much for your helps. Regards, -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ My rxvt's build configuration: ============================== rxvt-unicode (urxvt) v9.06 - released: 2008-06-15 options: perl,xft,styles,combining,blink,iso14755,unicode3,encodings=eu+vn+jp+jp-ext+kr+zh+zh-ext,fade,transparent,tint,afterimage,XIM,frills,selectionscrolling,wheel,slipwheel,smart-resize,cursorBlink,pointerBlank,scrollbars=plain+rxvt+NeXT+xterm My rxvt's X settings ==================== $ grep -i urxvt .Xdefaults URxvt*termName: rxvt URxvt*background: #000000 URxvt*foreground: violet URxvt*scrollBar_right: true URxvt*scrollBar: false URxvt*inheritPixmap: true URxvt*geometry: 84x24 URxvt*tint: white URxvt.imlocale: en_US.UTF-8 URxvt.inputMethod: xim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 08:12:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851031065701 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9008FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B9136822 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 28FA342CAA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F45942CAA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10855E7B3F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:12:55 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090305) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Migration to 7.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:12:57 -0000 Hello I'm planning to migrate our mailhub (IBM X3650) to FreeBSD 7.1 from Debian etch ;-) , of course I'll restart "from scratch". I have two questions before doing so. Does 7.1 has reached a stability that it could be used for a high load production server ? Does the LAGG driver works well with broadcomm giga ethernet chips ? ( I plan to use LACP to a Cisco switch ) Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 08:49:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF101065827 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865E48FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n378nHmY001758; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n378nGEa001755; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:49:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:49:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Frank Bonnet In-Reply-To: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> Message-ID: References: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migration to 7.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:49:35 -0000 > > Does 7.1 has reached a stability that it could > be used for a high load production server ? at least for me - it's stable under high loads doing lots of different thing. i mean /amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 09:17:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BC31065706 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C088FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lr7Qf-0004q8-JA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:17:13 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:17:13 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:17:13 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:17:02 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6606D5368EA7A195B95F4CE0" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) In-Reply-To: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Migration to 7.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:17:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6606D5368EA7A195B95F4CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello >=20 > I'm planning to migrate our mailhub (IBM X3650) to FreeBSD 7.1 > from Debian etch ;-) , of course I'll restart "from scratch". >=20 > I have two questions before doing so. >=20 > Does 7.1 has reached a stability that it could > be used for a high load production server ? Generally, yes. > Does the LAGG driver works well with broadcomm giga ethernet chips ? > ( I plan to use LACP to a Cisco switch ) Try asking at freebsd-net@ --------------enig6606D5368EA7A195B95F4CE0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ2xoOldnAQVacBcgRAq6AAKDt/xAc0AW6c/23S3BYP8+VFI1odQCgzS8a hYOBSKF9eXk18YE3nnDhRSc= =EPO2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6606D5368EA7A195B95F4CE0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 09:34:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917E3106567F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3CC8FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2196889ewy.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PSx4sA6GA3GncmCzu/Ek5CrIUJ33qKCg1icg+F9OkZo=; b=Ca4GRhH2lHpf/5L9glFXyrEHaqX184GrKpS08EnevP7TVb+c8avBn27AwBMwnPpbjC C4N229GrEwM+bwr9hQlNhEodoD6lwysHcuD/b91KEzs/Hzo95YMrzL2oSrNrePRjF+QV 4bpLnWHPtrx6gKClhNdKcL/QYejpyDJCGeGk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O5rwwQoV9h4I40fpKmmA1kxN3OC1hR+o3PVBW932QWPxSqV5utW+7/uP77cMKu2qkJ pJY7QolYq9eed37QepQopkby3gOH3Q0j7ABBDARzVWHlfZMPypmyl8rv/0xEPs70DG+h XwO+6JUDkF7rjzbGZV+GX9/Cvvgec2/H2zx90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.127.13 with SMTP id z13mr1964948ebc.57.1239096854050; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <47952575-35FD-4733-9262-A6DAA3ACB762@lafn.org> References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> <47952575-35FD-4733-9262-A6DAA3ACB762@lafn.org> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:34:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:34:16 -0000 > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:12, Chris Rees wrote: > >> Can >> no-one can come up with a reply either quoting a mailing list or >> giving the circumstances when: >> >> a) Background fsck caused data CORRUPTION >> >> _and_ >> >> b) A foreground fsck would not have done the same >> >> ? 2009/4/6 Doug Hardie : > Yes. =A0When background FSCK first became standard I let it go that way o= n my > production servers. =A0The first time we had a power issue that resulted = in a > shutdown of a server it tried to come back up when the power was restored= . > =A0I have a large number of daemons that rely on configure files and othe= r > information that is reasonably frequently updated. =A0Some of those files= were > in the process of being updated when it shut down. =A0As a result backgro= und > FSCK did not get around to those files till much after the daemons were u= p > and running (or trying to run). =A0Most of them worked ok at the beginnin= g. > =A0However after FSCK resolved the problems, the underlying files changed= . > =A0The daemons couldn't function at that point. > > While a simple reboot at that point fixed everything, that caused yet > another outage for users. So, the answer is NO, it does NOT cause data CORRUPTION. A simple reboot solved it? Really, you're advocating guaranteed extended downtime every time there's a power outage, compared with a slight chance of a slightly longer downtime while every other time it comes almost straight up. Any more replies, please, read the damned question. > I doubt that the concept of background FSCK is broken and I suspect that = the implementation is good too. _Thank_ you Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 09:42:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FF6106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859668FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2177542bwz.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:42:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=kjJg3YvjbIcGagEWOR1nQj6tBz3NY79NY1cqnfeAUTg=; b=izhU62TIkANcBenQ8vRCPvh1U2dyNwmnyNKxiHWdOXQITYsHVCFV+8UWzK+tTU/0Ux xZ9wCyQ0gmHG0wLOhv4gGj7XpbtF+1HfhIiPSaSSlNZ8JjJiIwx0WNjhlLvr5Yh5IuMq 4991FPfbk9JXDcOo0QpNL/MqDtaVvdrjDVO/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mnZjXtOtUKJajfjYNlV9/lWOHSx4cpKPbYa1kDvOANHxyYQxA3pWaxGDtweqWzPp8N AEx0TpMA2Xl4a2P4uUhjLISa3vmfTBQilic7K431LBHgZlY5S3H6Q1KzPjLxdv53s85i qQ/0WtO/p7FxZre4i6IrPTn9AkSH+x8er4+a8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.120.197 with SMTP id e5mr4165831far.25.1239097331317; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentin Bud Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:42:13 -0000 Hello community, I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that can be controlled through the serial port. I have 2 plugs that i can start/stop and check the status of them. This is accomplished by sending different letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the plugs and another set of letter for the other plug and one letter to check the status. Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how complicated would be to write a program so I can control that micro controller through the serial port. Or is there some kind of program that can read/write from/to the serial port from the command line. I don't want an interactive program like minicom, just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my case) to the serial port. Why not minicom (or any other program like it)? My goal is to be able to start/stop the plugs using a web interface. I have tried using minicom and background it but when i log out minicom closes. If minicom is started i can send commands to ttyd0 with echo, but i can't read anything from serial. Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be to write a C program to control the micro controller through the serial port. Of course on FreeBSD :). thanks, v -- network warrior since 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 11:30:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3BE106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47698FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 49795 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 11:31:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 11:31:10 -0000 In-Reply-To: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> References: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <45769C11-D692-4A3B-B979-27A74D9FF094@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:30:29 -0400 To: Valentin Bud X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:30:34 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that > can be > controlled through the serial port. > I have 2 plugs that i can start/stop and check the status of them. > This is > accomplished by sending different > letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the plugs and another set of > letter > for the other plug and one letter > to check the status. > > Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how > complicated > would be to write a program > so I can control that micro controller through the serial port. Or > is there > some kind of program that can > read/write from/to the serial port from the command line. I don't > want an > interactive program like minicom, > just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my > case) to the > serial port. > > Why not minicom (or any other program like it)? My goal is to be > able to > start/stop the plugs using a web interface. > I have tried using minicom and background it but when i log out > minicom > closes. If minicom is started i can > send commands to ttyd0 with echo, but i can't read anything from > serial. > > Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be > to write > a C program to control the micro controller > through the serial port. > > Of course on FreeBSD :). More complicated than you need. The last time I twiddled bits on a serial port, the choice was Assembler, or C, but today my choice would be Ruby. You can probably do whatever you want with a few lines of Ruby, rather than many lines of C. And since you don't know either language, you might as easily learn Ruby as C. Unless you are going to start writing low level code, a high level language like Ruby will let you write any program you need. I haven't needed to write a line of C code in probably 20 years. Check out the Ruby serial port library: http://ruby-serialport.rubyforge.org/ The standard Ruby book is "Programming Ruby" (http:// www.pragprog.com). If you don't know programming at all, they have a "Learn to Program" book that uses Ruby as a first language. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 11:45:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A95106566C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DBC8FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n37BikKd005235; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:45:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n37BikRT005234; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:44:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:44:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904071144.n37BikRT005234@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, valentin.bud@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:45:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, valentin.bud@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:45:11 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that can be > controlled through the serial port. > I have 2 plugs that i can start/stop and check the status of them. This is > accomplished by sending different > letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the plugs and another set of letter > for the other plug and one letter > to check the status. > > Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how complicated > would be to write a program > so I can control that micro controller through the serial port. Or is there > some kind of program that can > read/write from/to the serial port from the command line. I don't want an > interactive program like minicom, > just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my case) to the > serial port. You can do this with existing shell tools. With stty(1) you can select the serial port parameters on the "init" device (see sio(4) for details about the "init" and "lock" devices). Then you can use printf(1) or echo -n to send single letters to the serial port. To read single characters, you can use dd(1) with bs=1 and count=1. Make sure that the serial line is in "cbreak" or "raw" mode (with stty). This is a common trick to read single characters from stdin (without having to press the Enter key) in order to implement simple menu systems in shell scripts: echo -n "Press any key: " stty cbreak -echo KEY=$(dd bs=1 count=1 2>/dev/null) stty -cbreak echo echo echo "You pressed the \"$KEY\" key." To read from a serial port instead of standard input, you have to redirect input from the serial port's device for the stty and dd commands, of course. > Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be to write > a C program to control the micro controller > through the serial port. Well, it's not hard or complicated, but it requires a certain amount of knowledge. First you have to learn C programming. Then you have to learn about the termios(4) interface and related things. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." -- Doug Gwyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 12:38:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E021065686 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C348FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A090004CB7A5; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:38:57 +0100 Message-ID: <49DB4960.8070109@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:38:56 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Bud References: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:38:59 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that can be > controlled through the serial port. > I have 2 plugs that i can start/stop and check the status of them. This is > accomplished by sending different > letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the plugs and another set of letter > for the other plug and one letter > to check the status. > > Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how complicated > would be to write a program > so I can control that micro controller through the serial port. Or is there > some kind of program that can > read/write from/to the serial port from the command line. I don't want an > interactive program like minicom, > just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my case) to the > serial port. > > Why not minicom (or any other program like it)? My goal is to be able to > start/stop the plugs using a web interface. > I have tried using minicom and background it but when i log out minicom > closes. If minicom is started i can > send commands to ttyd0 with echo, but i can't read anything from serial. > > Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be to write > a C program to control the micro controller > through the serial port. > > Of course on FreeBSD :). > > thanks, > v > There are some things here http://www.vitsch.net/ which might be useful see lampd, lampgui and An 8-output solid state mains-switch. It's all pretty old but then so are serial ports :) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 12:47:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54D1065678 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C458FC26 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1638844ywh.13 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2fkw1BQz84FxNg8rPpp2QPcaK/u425kOi5M2S6ufg3Q=; b=wDhMAwGVzzY17G9mYN8JEbiW/IWMs3Dd1TFCGvUo6casKoCgXZzgNmN98LcgxkZNcm PjsGB5/QQR/dw0NWbDjGNyByH2NtHriH0exuuperxZYW0s9go30IcbMZg1tK38DPd/eh NKhfzSSlV3JQ/k06GA2QfRsMAmgOKZxWLXtaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cTSoFuBe0TGlNoRn5cqMD05y1XUSgm3reeACC1+iVyWaOUiN9R1fK0eJFU/UpvBG9Q 58HcAN9eyor0aYX1fCujq0uoPL9JLiGsEcHkaB4Lk+gboNS7C3wX5mNTe4duULmxe4Kg 9K/C8VpnKg+dCzfj3wOgTeMscBV1/wDDYhzww= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.122.21 with SMTP id u21mr296274ybc.20.1239106529889; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:15:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3C70BDDB-CC92-444D-A26E-F24CAA44B82E@SOCKET.NET> References: <3C70BDDB-CC92-444D-A26E-F24CAA44B82E@SOCKET.NET> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <2b5f066d0904070515l5658de1eve4edcda842d12197@mail.gmail.com> From: Brian McCann To: Jay Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Controllers/Drives renumbered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:47:47 -0000 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Jay Hall wrote: > Earlier today, I installed a new HP SCSI (HP SmartArray 642)controller and > an HP Drive Array in my company's HP ML 350 G5. The system drive which had > been da0 became da1 and the new controller became da0. > > Unfortunately, I cannot rearrange the controllers in the system since one > is PCI-X and one is PCI Express. Is it possible to force FreeBSD 6.2 to > detect the cards in a particular order so my drives are not renumbered. > > Thanks, > > > > Jay > > I had this problem myself...and I could not find a way to re-order the cards. So, I started using glabel to solve my problems. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=glabel&sektion=8 . This obviously may not solve your direct problem, but it solved mine since I then mount,fsck,whatever /dev/ufs/systemRoot . I hope this helps! --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 12:53:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570A91065687 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.124.104.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC748FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 17048 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 12:53:04 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 17019, pid: 17045, t: 1.3637s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-159.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg@tls.net@64.184.9.159) by ssl-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 12:53:03 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB4C9A.9010004@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:52:42 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <200904062037.30518.npapke@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <200904062037.30518.npapke@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0000 Norbert Papke wrote: > On April 6, 2009, DAve wrote: >> Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One running >> just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. > > It's just a matter of making sure that the two instances don't share any ports > or files. It works well. You'll have to create a custom my.cnf file and > start-up script for your second instance. > That is as I suspected. Thanks. DAve -- "Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Quincy Adams http://appleseedinfo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 12:55:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69341065679 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.124.104.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6131A8FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 6793 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 12:55:47 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 6743, pid: 6790, t: 0.1683s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-159.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg@tls.net@64.184.9.159) by ssl-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 12:55:47 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB4D3E.3070301@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:55:26 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <200904070328.n373SHdB081955@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49DACB52.8030407@pixelhammer.com> <5C4F1A401C316B7D2F625CCF@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <5C4F1A401C316B7D2F625CCF@Macintosh-2.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:55:49 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On April 6, 2009 11:41:06 PM -0400 DAve > wrote: > >> Olivier Nicole wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>> Has anyone setup two instances of MySQL on the same server? One >>>> running just a client's DBs? Any advice would be helpful. >>> >>> That is not answering your question directly, but MySQL works finr >>> over an SSH tunnel. >>> >>> You'd have your users connect/authenticate with SSH first to establish >>> the tunnel, then they'd use the tunnel to forward the NySQl >>> connection. >> >> I doubt the would be an option without a GUI to do everything for the >> user. I suggested a VPN which we can setup easily with a Cisco Client. >> No answer back from the account manager on that option. >> > > If your client needs a gui to access mysql, why not use phpmyadmin (or a > similar gui-based admin utility) and restrict access to his IP(s)? You > can do this with your firewall rules or by using .htaccess. You can > also force SSL connections, which would protect against MITM attacks on > a cleartext session. Nope, no web based php admin tools here. Won't touch them. I ahve enough security items to track every day. > > (You can also require SSL and secure auth for the db and restrict access > by IP using the format username@fqdn, but you stated that you're not > comfortable depending *only* upon mysql's security capabilities.) > > However, I would suggest that you provide, as you suggest, a separate > instance of mysql just for this client as well. If they screw up the > instance they won't affect other customers. To run a separate instance, > I would suggest using different names for the binaries, conf files and > datadir. This can be easily done using symlinks; e.g. mysql and > mysql-special. Then copy the startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, > rename it to mysql-special and edit it to change all references to the > newly-named instance. Use a my-special.cnf file for the special > instance and reference it in /etc/rc.conf using mysql_args=. Thanks, looks like it would be doable. I do plan to use a separate my.cnf, separate logging, and even a seperate mysql DB. I was going to share the binaries but I may rethink that decision after your suggestion. Thanks for the response. DAve -- "Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Quincy Adams http://appleseedinfo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 13:41:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6891065689 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (mail.streamingedge.com [66.151.192.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A7E8FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (localhost.streamingedge.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDAE119EC3; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.0.115] (unknown [172.17.0.115]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7139E119EC1; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DB581A.4090603@streamingedge.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:41:46 -0400 From: Jacques Manukyan Organization: StreamingEdge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madhusudan R References: <8d32a6620904062042i21279afcwd6c83a23b5a774e1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8d32a6620904062042i21279afcwd6c83a23b5a774e1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xinetd for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jacques.manukyan@streamingedge.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:41:56 -0000 You can install the latest version of xinetd (2.3.14) on FreebSD 6.2. Xinetd hasn't been updated in quite a long time FYI. -- Jacques Manukyan Madhusudan R wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to know the version of xinetd that can be run on FreeBSD 6.2. And > where can I find it? > > Anything else I need to know before I start using xinetd on the aforemention > platform. > > Thanks! > Madhu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:42:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E598C1065673; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=341584890=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455DB8FC17; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=341584890=a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2009 16:12:40 +0200 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.187]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:39 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:39 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n37ECdxS004823; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n37ECdLi004822; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:39 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20090407141239.GA4757@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2009 14:12:39.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8F1A450:01C9B78A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migration to 7.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:42:13 -0000 > > Does the LAGG driver works well with broadcomm giga ethernet chips ? > > ( I plan to use LACP to a Cisco switch ) > > Try asking at freebsd-net@ > Hi, I've been running with the lagg-driver for quite some time now on several blade-systems using broadcom chips in a failover configuration - no problems whatsoever - failover/fallback all ok. LACP shouldn't be a problem either - on the Cisco side define a port channel using LACP plus optional a balancing strategy (like mac-based etc.) HTH -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:54:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9001065672 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2135C8FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id C86A04718F2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7733865D0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:05:53 +0200 Message-Id: <200904071605.AA870842786@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: SQLgrey not happy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:54:45 -0000 Trying to install everything via pkgs, but it messed up. fbsd 7.1 SQLgrey 1.7.6 installed as pkg_add p5-DBD-mysql installed as: pkg_add -r ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-current/All/p5-DBD-mysql-4.010.tbz starting sqlgrey: Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: Process Backgrounded Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: 2009/04/07-08:25:22 sqlgrey (type Net::Server::Multiplex) starting! pid(73878) Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: Binding to TCP port 2501 on host localhost Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: Setting gid to "1001 1001" Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: Setting uid to "1003" Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: Can't locate loadable object for module DBD::mysql in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at (eval 11) line 3 Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: Can't locate loadable object for module DBD::mysql in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at (eval 11) line 3 Compilation failed in require at (eval 11) line 3. Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: install_driver(MySQL) failed: Can't locate loadable object for module DBD::mysql in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at (eval 11) line 3 Compilation failed in require at (eval 11) line 3. Perhaps a module that DBD::MySQL requires hasn't been fully installed at /usr/local/sbin/sqlgrey line 814 pkg_info shows perl-5.8.8_1. What usually works when the pkg installs fail is to install via make install in the ports tree. After deleting the sqlgrey and p5-DBD-mysql-4.010 pkgs, I make'd both them in the ports tree, then get this: Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: Process Backgrounded Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: 2009/04/07-08:43:43 sqlgrey (type Net::Server::Multiplex) starting! pid(80696) Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: Binding to TCP port 2501 on host localhost Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: Setting gid to "1001 1001" Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: Setting uid to "1003" Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: Can't locate object method "driver" via package "DBD::MySQL" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm line 787. Apr 7 08:43:43 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: DBD::MySQL initialisation failed: Can't locate object method "driver" via package "DBD::MySQL" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm line 787. Perhaps the capitalization of DBD 'MySQL' isn't right. at /usr/local/sbin/sqlgrey line 814 Suggestions? Thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:47:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582181065670 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155468FC1B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0045E31A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:47:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9DpT81zbzmCk for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:47:29 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688E45E325 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:47:23 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Portsnap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:47:33 -0000 I used to use csup and in my /root/ports-supfile I changed the default host line to a server near me. *default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org Now I've been using portsnap for a while and when installing a new system I got to question if portsnap look in this file for an update server or does portsnap need to be configured somewhere else? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:54:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C538106566C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29888FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2343149fxm.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZV+lVTxPx+gp+1Q2YNIku5eHBGViPd/HJPhad5Is9is=; b=dv7J4z5U1U64ZNcojWdA+8F6LGg3x9KzTcteIYWlLhEI6/hucdZq4FdnD10TiTZrfv 6a1VDY94k76gqAiHtaAVHgySr0ADQ4GlTNqHBLw7nF1kmb5ZMECjlxQnlnCI6E29RApZ kFmCDKu6ChrmfQZYkfcaCVDqig7r1Zf0CTGLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RWT58DFY3Cnm+YNITUCmImj8krp2NtNQfUe3qMBhUYGafj8ZtlR+pNVewQN/GK2MA+ ooupv42s8VRy5FmWBrmM6Tmt0byCxozMUQyaPVxoLdYQRgndlSCx6Od2oIuLi12SZ1FO /HN1HxqlAI1uHjZSDseMzAPcCY2VeDLoE5mvA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.74 with SMTP id d10mr127922faq.87.1239119642901; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:54:02 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400904070854k685256d8kdf65f1426560f708@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Koffice in KDE-4.2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:54:04 -0000 Hello pple, I installed KDE-4.2.2 but I cannot see the office apps. What am I missing? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:54:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EA4106566C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A371E8FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so2034952qwb.7 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NiAazvO5BQ2UmXSQ1WVlfOsTREh0ZVh30ScW7ZK7RYY=; b=wxIh4/eThO3z3ML4euS19JrwkBkkettoNih19zlzHl2tNWyazTNbZRYWnTNpncwNvO WeQYun6m8PPb+P2tgLQovSh9swFDDBvVe8batSoIjXUYBQVYQzUmKo1ObQ9NYcELtzzh X9oC5l3UMlSVtQFpbQvt0Mwq1Y/vjb/Ha5s0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qj8a5HPWLks7WCCllOqXdvHXKKIN6bGo49DDpvMNkhxkUi+hTjJtw0ER8fD1fnSxx2 4cNFlHc3HaIIcSW6uKua42/szk1+phHnVT+ib8oI/42GEx3pzZW5qWPT0vjaly7CQx/Y QE/jKmmYbR5QEQQCqfODp+znvTNAybRVs+pIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.82.81 with SMTP id a17mr175702qcl.107.1239119655468; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> References: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:54:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Portsnap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:54:18 -0000 2009/4/7 Leslie Jensen : > > I used to use csup and in my /root/ports-supfile I changed the default host > line to a server near me. > > *default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org > > Now I've been using portsnap for a while and when installing a new system I > got to question if portsnap look in this file for an update server or does > portsnap need to be configured somewhere else? /etc/portsnap.conf but: # Server or server pool from which to fetch updates. You can change # this to point at a specific server if you want, but in most cases # using a "nearby" server won't provide a measurable improvement in # performance. SERVERNAME=portsnap.FreeBSD.org -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:54:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FDD10656C1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1478FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so351549fgg.12 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IKdtEjUj+inCo5fsAfphxItDE4zXisdl2V0B2d4l53I=; b=HEqvGRl8/mC7NbLKxhapb5NUOo8VU0aHIM0pTHeGbQ7vO3Aw1QOKNmnKRojl7vi7XQ /tK0v982E0wteo3ZOmY6IQWo6SuNUMhn3ALQrU3c6SfkS7DRXZBku8CwoorvS8Th7fr9 P8p6TCb0Bqia57BFBYp1W6muR7jR34dw49jug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vowp6ds3CngELN+IfysaKc12OH3tft0DvfPbN3JxIFmenVVFJjvooFU4WTBzWaSggG Uj8L1vA9l+KT+6yeEJ/BM32FJHbi/pQzgXio02IDG8gJxehTkS6c8OddozWVZ4jm7kTk vTqzo0eV2Tf8d0Xv6cZ05SNM42MAwqpxNNiYo= Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr275779fga.73.1239119684508; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4489554.home.otenet.gr [94.71.77.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm8791712fga.15.2009.04.07.08.54.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DB7742.8080502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:54:42 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Portsnap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:54:46 -0000 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I used to use csup and in my /root/ports-supfile I changed the default > host line to a server near me. > > *default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org > > Now I've been using portsnap for a while and when installing a new > system I got to question if portsnap look in this file for an update > server or does portsnap need to be configured somewhere else? > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > No, portsnap uses /etc/portsnap.conf. Normally you don't need to make any changes to this file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:56:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB70106567A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0478FC1D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.139] (unknown [192.168.1.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87ECD22848F; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:56:40 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49DB77BA.5060106@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:56:42 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Portsnap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:56:42 -0000 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I used to use csup and in my /root/ports-supfile I changed the default > host line to a server near me. > > *default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org > > Now I've been using portsnap for a while and when installing a new > system I got to question if portsnap look in this file for an update > server or does portsnap need to be configured somewhere else? > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Portsnap uses /etc/portsnap.conf and doesn't read supfiles. man portsnap.conf for more info. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 15:59:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A210656C0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E2C8FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A065E33B; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:59:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AHIH9OlYnAmo; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:58:55 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D10B5E33A; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DB783F.6020809@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:58:55 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <49DB758B.6060807@eskk.nu> <49DB7742.8080502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49DB7742.8080502@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Portsnap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:59:01 -0000 Manolis Kiagias skrev: > Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I used to use csup and in my /root/ports-supfile I changed the default >> host line to a server near me. >> >> *default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org >> >> Now I've been using portsnap for a while and when installing a new >> system I got to question if portsnap look in this file for an update >> server or does portsnap need to be configured somewhere else? >> >> Thanks >> >> /Leslie >> >> > > No, portsnap uses /etc/portsnap.conf. Normally you don't need to make > any changes to this file. > Thank you :-) I see there's no gain in changing. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:07:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8A1065672 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFBD8FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37G7tCd050222; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:07:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 085DFBA99; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:07:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:07:54 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20090407160754.GA57933@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <991123400904070854k685256d8kdf65f1426560f708@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400904070854k685256d8kdf65f1426560f708@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Koffice in KDE-4.2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:07:57 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:54:02PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello pple, >=20 > I installed KDE-4.2.2 but I cannot see the office apps. What am I missing? The Koffice version for KDE-4 is still in beta. Looking at the ports tree, there is only the /usr/ports/editors/koffice-kde3 port (except from a lot of localization ports). =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknbeloACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWvaACeOuNWSBkfWshMezrLsIe2J/Rf WSwAn1ZgaJ2LlO5MBOYdFaI11tbf0U1o =QW5n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:53:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3111065673 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09CB58FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2009 14:40:56 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.95] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2009 14:40:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2009 14:40:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 88607.26226.bm@omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12999 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2009 14:40:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239115254; bh=rIrvBJNPMG2VXZDCdBI6MB1XzdvhCpqdOTln729lqkg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4U9i3GH1Gff3iH2gjoTHQ9Ni4xQbSXlPFxUmXI1a6+/2as0kazZh8nRlFXTYRi/U4W+8P1oim5Tez6kxHXVyNqqw64qC4oEKWQSUPFN/uXRbPk6RknyflDcJpClZgAXrqHQ3V+Q9ngnYmsgyw/oqLhohqhfcDoqfzTkyFW5il84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vg+STe1Oz6MIMIhkSwDlWKXGd695TNlclmWdFt1XXkJjEvvI31FW48NLg3pbXFUXTzC+L3AciqBo5Ve0FznyjPctXFZrBjnJDt3Dscoc3lbRbzwKZkl18rCs0ns0FPg82kw+AVWZOEbDSjhbZxl0KoX75+EOnTp6rIXfBloBgsM=; Message-ID: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: J2ZIupQVM1n2oBsmO6PE4FS7g5ua1NRtFB7CXAf.CdGOkco.JR2q4RHWf3s9Qw48YjPrQWIwTcYt2nqz_AQE_eb3EaCX7DB21hSZAlCO9XQ_ECv4uAPJshrFl2_.eeN.AK0p7o1sgTl79nhgUgHQnBdn98V4FLR.PUWpNnSr7wRbmDYOvTuYIpTGpd9XhXzO84Vv5o.EsxZmMIM2GFlliZgClO63U0jFPEeJrDkNC7wY7iUZdYUZ7YBJTQBFDU3V6TRUTLKEXfhExG.hPRLMDgMbr8hLnntKivZophJyrY88UVI- Received: from [71.63.232.32] by web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:40:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Mianovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:08:16 +0000 Subject: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:53:53 -0000 Just trying to install rrdtool on a server. Do not want X. Do not want X11. Do not want Xorg. So I did the "right" thing and added this to /etc/make.conf: WITHOUT_X11=yes WITHOUT_X=yes WITH_X=NO ENABLE_GUI=NO and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory. The problem is, eventually I saw this: ===> Installing for pango-1.14.7 ===> pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 => MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found => X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/. X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 3% of 31 MB 8188 Bps 01h05m^C fetch: transfer interrupted Oops. Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway. So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:15:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16175106568A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567828FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2336689bwz.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:15:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vvm2CkiV86eT3q7ZqlDnU10gZnAYAHT+fN0HzUxVMBE=; b=jSGmY9xJx8MS6qmbuY8E62oNXOowD4SlhA8uEo5aUaCfef987sOCJYCISkWUJoDoLy e0hSzC8/kSFk/pb2iqRICqBu6MUacG5bZE2SdT/D4TW4Qb8dlwhoZWFcosEyzfXOwizC NPvui3kkR1VBQIAQYsGtkn62QW72RkqlIBUWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ktSMD5jIAdqNdbXihGq2HV8w7F3UmYrNa4ZzP2xQ5Ywf7iCJs+CU4vZ3ZyEzDW5Lq5 6N3omUqA6evAd7Wp8HjhL3tfrrLWdRqwl1oe0g5THwJXUDSRqkZnJ64dAd9bnIsUE2ev FWWs/+YLMuHeMTHwDR0wZGkz4r7OAb+Iw+EmA= Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr308976fgc.41.1239120920274; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4489554.home.otenet.gr [94.71.77.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm8785203fge.14.2009.04.07.09.15.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DB7C13.6060305@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:15:15 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juri Mianovich References: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:15:23 -0000 Juri Mianovich wrote: > Just trying to install rrdtool on a server. > > Do not want X. Do not want X11. Do not want Xorg. > > So I did the "right" thing and added this to /etc/make.conf: > > WITHOUT_X11=yes > WITHOUT_X=yes > WITH_X=NO > ENABLE_GUI=NO > > and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory. The problem is, eventually I saw this: > > ===> Installing for pango-1.14.7 > ===> pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 > => MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > => X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. > => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/. > X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 3% of 31 MB 8188 Bps 01h05m^C > fetch: transfer interrupted > > > > Oops. Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway. > > So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ? > > Thanks. > I don't think your '=NO' stuff would do much. You may also wish to add WITHOUT_GUI=yes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:32:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3807B106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BF18FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2009 12:32:17 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KTQ49362; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2009 12:32:14 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18907.32781.866491.883180@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:32:13 -0400 To: Juri Mianovich In-Reply-To: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:32:18 -0000 Juri Mianovich writes: > Just trying to install rrdtool on a server. > > Do not want X. Do not want X11. Do not want Xorg. > > > ===> Installing for pango-1.14.7 If it requires pango, I think you're hosed. I don't think it's possible to build pango without X, if only for various .h files. (And given what pango does, it wouldn't make much sense to.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:40:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D188B1065673 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0898FC1C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n37GeA2u017787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:40:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n37Ge9Dv001265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:40:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n37Ge6nD001264; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:40:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:40:06 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Juri Mianovich Message-ID: <20090407164005.GJ70541@dan.emsphone.com> References: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:40:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:40:12 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 07), Juri Mianovich said: > Just trying to install rrdtool on a server. > > Do not want X. Do not want X11. Do not want Xorg. > > So I did the "right" thing and added this to /etc/make.conf: > > WITHOUT_X11=yes > WITHOUT_X=yes > WITH_X=NO > ENABLE_GUI=NO > > and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory. The problem is, eventually I saw this: > > ===> Installing for pango-1.14.7 > ===> pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 > => MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > => X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. > => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/. > X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 3% of 31 MB 8188 Bps 01h05m^C > fetch: transfer interrupted > > Oops. Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway. > > So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a > simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ? Note that it's only downloading that file to install the fonts that are included in it. It's not going to install all of X. You might be able to comment out the RUN_DEPENDS entries in the pango Makefile to avoid installing any fonts, but your rrdtool graphs will look boring with no text :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59D1106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og121.obsmtp.com (exprod7og121.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 975E98FC1B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.146.178]) by exprod7ob121.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSduDNrqDZ5K3q3tH89vfyvNK9SAIzgcM@postini.com; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:45:42 PDT Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j32so1458774waf.29 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.197.10 with SMTP id u10mr171283waf.96.1239122741796; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l28sm7048465waf.65.2009.04.07.09.45.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Steele To: #freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20445545.981239122658390.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Should kern.disks always show currently attached drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:45:43 -0000 I wanted to use the kern.disks sysctl variable but it doesn't seem to work the way I'd expect. When I first inspected this variable it showed the four hard drives I would expect: ad4 ad6 ad8 ad10 Then I inserted a USB stick and checked kern.disks again, and this time the new USB drive was included: da0 ad4 ad6 ad8 ad10 So far so good. Then I removed the USB disk, expecting it to be removed from kern.disks as well, but it was still included in the list. As another test, I removed the hard drive ad8 (it's a hot swappable SATA drive) and like the USB drive, kern.disks still included ad8 in the list. To make matters worse, when I put ad8 back in, an additional entry was added to kern.disks: ad8 da0 ad4 ad6 ad8 ad10 Is this normal behavior? Is there a way to force FreeBSD to refresh this list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:47:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823BE106567A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2450E8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37GIVck093182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n37GIV5O093166 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:18:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:30 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9211/Tue Apr 7 10:57:29 2009 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: Subject: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:47:36 -0000 I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how to fix it. Any pointers would be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:55:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D34106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ADC8FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so1727491waf.27 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:55:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lOBROkooo4LJqkZPHlbqLOzRT+4stTiq8R6/8GnXHU8=; b=EB+HjwejqeV4iAZHk2wVsLJ8KEXKPNKQGpA3DNXMWG0ol1yHJ4sdxsX19AdKoHee69 sn7QVOgsZ9IQDa8olYFoIzUilo879aBskm6sTUnQW5LI6NUOHpn1TDvjc0Yp6bHzpY/v 9IeT9Eaigz/ARx+Mam0F1lC8bm1dBofKg6tEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=jD8nuGgyXzl+1LxL5eOKozHBR5my9bItxW12dHvcwi0YnLD5LxmusQ05pYJRAPILOZ QRxnLvcK1nBjT1Pq2e+q5ZYv10+I84z06jjm9lZDHBD8pXyN392/19STyHMpPFSfvtSj jpMWeZFEhdjPHkd5IHTlng4GLijIJXzMl48Fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.212 with SMTP id g20mr643951vcf.43.1239123341930; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:55:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> From: Tim Judd Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:55:26 -0600 Message-ID: To: David Banning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:55:44 -0000 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM, David Banning < david+dated+1239553110.eb108f@skytracker.ca > wrote: > I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; > > /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > > I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary > using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how to fix > it. Any pointers would be appreciated. > This looks like a Linux ELF file branding problem. google://linux+elf+branding That's what I'd start with. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 16:58:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4FA106566B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386968FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LrEdR-000JIh-5Q; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:58:53 +0400 To: David Banning References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:58:53 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> (David Banning's message of "Tue\, 7 Apr 2009 12\:18\:30 -0400") Message-ID: <46603826@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:58:55 -0000 On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:30 -0400 David Banning wrote: > I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; > /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary > using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how to fix > it. Any pointers would be appreciated. If you install it from ports/packages that definitely shouldn't happen. Do you have some non-default environment like LD_LIBRARY_PATH? You may use ktrace/kdump to diagnose the problem. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 17:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B821065670 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239557310.086b03@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA148FC1D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239557310.086b03@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37HSUgY016725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:28:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239557310.086b03@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n37HSUJ4016722 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:28:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239557310.086b03@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1239557310.086b03@skytracker.ca using -f Received: from [192.168.1.20] (twenty [192.168.1.20]) by 3s1.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: <49DB8D36.7040605@skytracker.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:28:22 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> <46603826@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <46603826@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9211/Tue Apr 7 10:57:29 2009 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:41:34 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:30 -0400 David Banning wrote: > > >> I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; >> > > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid >> > > >> I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary >> using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how to fix >> it. Any pointers would be appreciated. >> > > If you install it from ports/packages that definitely shouldn't happen. > Do you have some non-default environment like LD_LIBRARY_PATH? > You may use ktrace/kdump to diagnose the problem. > ktrace/kdump appear to show an attempted access of libc.so.6 first from /usr/lib and then from /usr/lib/compat as well as some other lib directories. There is not such a file in any of those directories. I have attempted to run ldconfig -R to rescan the directory and rebuild the hints file, but I am going astray here... the linux version of libc.so.6 -is- located in /usr/compat/linux/lib where is does not appear to look. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 17:41:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DBB106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239556238.8602df@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202428FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239556238.8602df@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37HAdKM010706 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:10:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239556238.8602df@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n37HAcXN010688 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:10:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239556238.8602df@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1239556238.8602df@skytracker.ca using -f Received: from [192.168.1.20] (twenty [192.168.1.20]) by 3s1.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <49DB8905.7050506@skytracker.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:10:29 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9211/Tue Apr 7 10:57:29 2009 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:41:35 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM, David Banning > > wrote: > > I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; > > /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > > I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary > using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how > to fix > it. Any pointers would be appreciated. > > > This looks like a Linux ELF file branding problem. > > google://linux+elf+branding > but /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6 is the freebsd library, which it -is- branded; # /usr/local/lib # brandelf libc.so.6 File 'libc.so.6' is of brand 'FreeBSD' (9) Acroread probably needs /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 if it is running as linux - acroread itself is a shell script. My thought is now to locate the binary that is executed and see what it is brandelf'd as, but when I study the acroread script I cannot appear to find a binary referenced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 17:45:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F60106566B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ED58FC0A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n37HjHQb024790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <121ACADA-56B3-4B19-98B4-F0FAF3DFC7E2@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: utisoft@gmail.com, Chris Rees In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:45:16 -0700 References: <200903311657.n2VGvLE8010101@lurza.secnetix.de> <20090406001614.304360d6@gluon.draftnet> <47952575-35FD-4733-9262-A6DAA3ACB762@lafn.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:45:18 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 02:34, Chris Rees wrote: > \ > So, the answer is NO, it does NOT cause data CORRUPTION. A simple > reboot solved it? Really, you're advocating guaranteed extended > downtime every time there's a power outage, compared with a slight > chance of a slightly longer downtime while every other time it comes > almost straight up. > > Any more replies, please, read the damned question. You had better define data corruption then. In my book data that is read and gives garbage back rather than the right data is corrupt. It doesn't matter if it gets "fixed" by a reboot later. Thats only helpful if you happen to notice that it needs a reboot. If all you are interested in is toy systems then this type of problem is of no interest to you. However, for those of us who run production systems where clients have paid for service this is a serious issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 17:58:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577681065675 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1425A8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LrFYe-000K2V-0n; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:58:00 +0400 To: David Banning References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> <46603826@bb.ipt.ru> <49DB8D36.7040605@skytracker.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:57:59 +0400 In-Reply-To: <49DB8D36.7040605@skytracker.ca> (David Banning's message of "Tue\, 07 Apr 2009 13\:28\:22 -0400") Message-ID: <80520280@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:58:01 -0000 On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:28:22 -0400 David Banning wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:30 -0400 David Banning wrote: > > > >> I get this error when I attempt to run acroread8; > > > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > >> > >> I get the impression maybe acroread is attempting run a linux binary > >> using a freebsd library - but I am not sure if this is so, or how to fix > >> it. Any pointers would be appreciated. > > > > If you install it from ports/packages that definitely shouldn't happen. > > Do you have some non-default environment like LD_LIBRARY_PATH? > > You may use ktrace/kdump to diagnose the problem. > > > ktrace/kdump appear to show an attempted access of libc.so.6 first > from /usr/lib and then from /usr/lib/compat as well as some other lib > directories. That's bad. If you use native FreeBSD ktrace, then you should see only using native libc. And if native ktrace tries to use /compat... that's too bad. It shouldn't. For tracing linux libs one sjould use linux_kdump. But that's another story. > There is not such a file in any of those directories. I have attempted > to run ldconfig -R to rescan the directory and rebuild the hints file, > but I am going astray here... Well, that may be the curprit. Yur should never use ldconfig until you *know* what you do. For linux libs only linux ldconfig is used and with chroot (-r /compat/linux). > the linux version of libc.so.6 -is- located in /usr/compat/linux/lib > where is does not appear to look. You shoudn't see it with native ktrace. Seems that you rewrote your linux(?) ldconfig database. It's not so hard to restore. Remove /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache and rebuild it by "sudo /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux". HTH & WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 18:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D214810656CC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386598FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2423069ewy.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KaTgXqCPXwlohrqMSX6YrAwJmScNhxJpZOb4RGeTVfc=; b=SeiV4M4NnxgiY+mFlMxbmGxRHYJgKc7zOFZ42JMCgHXoTnFU1cWWQr3RABkmX2tctc 6oI2mpeuK9S+Kqxj7BfrQxV9ytjaE2RMHXgqbGirJmrgfwpKt3uV/yXJ0RxkK5SjTvI+ 6urNX1pLfgZqTTtkJbcExIsAbgGxO/pU9tnI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=W/HdgQER2bU5DsYgtZjRv9WlwRZhEfSi2NwdhBLnSCE6WWjYE1RNDbAVnH7ZIFdf0B +WVwX962mwdLwNzcJCjp8OpxnlI3djkiSzIWIT82xpKWlonX+QVEO0iWNGy8To/37Iaf Apft5jAchFs+2hkR0/PbAc6i870rEKKihUEdQ= Received: by 10.210.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr1956908eba.63.1239128288240; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm1557489eyg.5.2009.04.07.11.18.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:18:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:16:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1239128188.5125.14.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New Flash9 Issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:18:10 -0000 Hello, I upgraded xorg-server to 1.6. In upgrading if found to < portupgrade -rf libxcb > this took all night and day, so I thought why not rebuild everything, and so I did. (stable 7.1/prerelease 7.2) Everything went good, except for the Flash9 I found some time ago on the internet, and now I get this error. Step 1, discribes the manual to add Flash9. Anyone encountered this problem yet? Regards, Roy. ----------------------------------------- rs-unix# cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9 && make install clean ===> linux-flashplugin-9.0r159 bsd.linux-apps.mk test failed: Invalid component USE_LINUX_APPS=openssl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9. ------------------------------------------ ########################## Step 1: Enable Linux compatibility and linprocfs Add linux_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf. Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf. Add this line to /etc/fstab: linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Then run these commands: mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc mount /usr/compat/linux/proc /etc/rc.d/abi start /etc/rc.d/sysctl start Step 2: Update ports and install all the needed software You will now need to install the following ports and their dependencies: cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9 && make install clean cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean Follow the nspluginwrapper instructions to enable all available plugins: # nspluginwrapper -v -a -i ################################# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 18:48:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E73106566B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239560599.4534a7@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EF98FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1239560599.4534a7@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37INJkE001552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:23:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239560599.4534a7@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id n37INJ45001550 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:23:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1239560599.4534a7@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1239560599.4534a7@skytracker.ca using -f Received: from [192.168.1.20] (twenty [192.168.1.20]) by 3s1.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:23:11 -0400 Message-ID: <49DB9A12.7040000@skytracker.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:23:14 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <20090407161830.GA92526@skytracker.ca> <46603826@bb.ipt.ru> <49DB8D36.7040605@skytracker.ca> <80520280@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <80520280@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 3s1.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:48:15 -0000 > You shoudn't see it with native ktrace. > > Seems that you rewrote your linux(?) ldconfig database. It's not so hard > to restore. Remove /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache and rebuild it by > "sudo /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux". > > > That worked. Thanks Boris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:04:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1831065674 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251528FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37J4QwU025453; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:04:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5B56FBA8A; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:04:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:04:26 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Juri Mianovich Message-ID: <20090407190426.GA62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483945.87071.qm@web45606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:04:29 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 07:40:53AM -0700, Juri Mianovich wrote: >=20 > Just trying to install rrdtool on a server. >=20 > Do not want X. Do not want X11. Do not want Xorg. > Oops. Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway. >=20 > So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to > install a simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of > MB of x11 ? You should pick a tool that doesn't depend on X components. From databases/rrdtool/Makefile: =20 LIB_DEPENDS=3D freetype.9:${PORTSDIR}/print/freetype2 \ cairo.2:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/cairo \ png.5:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/png \ xml2.5:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/libxml2 \ pangocairo-1\.0.0:${PORTSDIR}/x11-toolkits/pango and USE_GNOME=3D gnomehack The cairo library depends on an Xorg component called xrender, unless you build it with the WITHOUT_X11 variable defined, which is not the default. See /usr/ports/graphics/cairo/Makefile. Pango depends on some X components as well, unless compiled with the WITHOUT_X11 variable defined. See /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/Makefile. So if you _really_ want no X related stuff at all, you'd better pick something else, because cairo and pango are linked with several X components. Check the required items for rrdtool on freshports [http://www.freshports.org/databases/rrdtool/], and then follow the links to the packages it depends on, and look at their dependancies. You'll see a host of X related stuff. Maybe using WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes is sufficient to stop these dependencies, but I doubt if that is a situation that has been well tested. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknbo7oACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX8jgCgrSuQuA3jqRHiU6PrPDOrk8rm /CcAn021Q8hGQfyjIOZn2hLXt+ajzN8Z =G1sC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:16:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41DC106567A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4483D8FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 93435 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 19:16:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 19:16:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:16:07 -0000 Well, I've got real problems with that database server that lost power over the weekend. We reloaded FreeBSD from scratch and then reinstalled mysql, and pf. I loaded up my database and switched over all my customer's websites. The database server ran fine for about 2 minutes, and then died. At the moment, I can't even ssh into the machine, although they can get into it using a keyboard/monitor at the data center. In other words, sshd is not working. I am now wondering what kind of format the FreeBSD install process does by default, and if it is possible to do a low level format, first, to block out any bad sectors (not sure if this is the right terminology). I'm starting to get real depressed about this machine... You would think a top-tier data center could keep the power on... -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:44:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722141065743 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B22A8FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 96794 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 19:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 19:44:59 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:44:20 -0400 To: Chuck Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:44:22 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:15 PM, John Almberg wrote: >> Well, I've got real problems with that database server that lost >> power over the weekend. We reloaded FreeBSD from scratch and then >> reinstalled mysql, and pf. I loaded up my database and switched >> over all my customer's websites. The database server ran fine for >> about 2 minutes, and then died. At the moment, I can't even ssh >> into the machine, although they can get into it using a keyboard/ >> monitor at the data center. In other words, sshd is not working. > > That sounds like either a hardware problem (ie CPU overheating or > marginal PSU failing under production load), or less likely, some > kind of software misconfiguration. System logs would be useful to > see whether any signs of trouble are being mentioned. Apparently, power was fluctuating drastically before they decided to cut power, so a hardware problem is a definite possibility. A PSU failure would not surprise me in the circumstances. Assuming I can ever ssh in again, what log would hardware failures be reported to? -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:45:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161D510656FD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849048FC24 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37JjcVB017545; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:45:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6BE73BA8A; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:45:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:45:38 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090407194538.GB62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:46:00 -0000 --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:15:59PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > Well, I've got real problems with that database server that lost =20 > power over the weekend. We reloaded FreeBSD from scratch and then =20 > reinstalled mysql, and pf. I loaded up my database and switched over =20 > all my customer's websites. The database server ran fine for about 2 =20 > minutes, and then died. At the moment, I can't even ssh into the =20 > machine, although they can get into it using a keyboard/monitor at =20 > the data center. In other words, sshd is not working. >=20 > I am now wondering what kind of format the FreeBSD install process =20 > does by default, and if it is possible to do a low level format, =20 > first, to block out any bad sectors (not sure if this is the right =20 > terminology). What you could do is run a shell from the install CD, then fill the disk with zeros using 'dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ bs=3D2m'. As I understand it, modern hard disks cannot be low-level formatted by the user. It is done at the factory. And bad blocks are re-allocated by the built-in controller without user intervention. In fact, you'll only see re-allocated blocks in the smartctl -a output (as Reallocated_Sector_Ct) when the drive has exhausted its spare sectors. In which case you'd better replace it, because it is failing. > I'm starting to get real depressed about this machine... You would =20 > think a top-tier data center could keep the power on... Are you sure that the hardware isn't crapping out on you? At least run smartctl -a on your disks to see if they failed any self test, and a monitoring program like mbmon to check on temperatures and voltage levels. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknbrWIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXFjACeNNqUpf3MgXTO4rADpuJ9Whz4 TOIAnRZdQuKoo7rZIvaIWO+r58NihHQ2 =jnx1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:53:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330DA10656D1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173988FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay10.apple.com (relay10.apple.com [17.128.113.47]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EAC5DF74E1; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay10.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay10.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id EFEBE2806E; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:27 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180712f-a916bbb0000012d3-51-49dbab777ba9 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay10.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id C611F28054; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: John Almberg In-Reply-To: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:27 -0700 References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:53:04 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:15 PM, John Almberg wrote: > Well, I've got real problems with that database server that lost > power over the weekend. We reloaded FreeBSD from scratch and then > reinstalled mysql, and pf. I loaded up my database and switched over > all my customer's websites. The database server ran fine for about 2 > minutes, and then died. At the moment, I can't even ssh into the > machine, although they can get into it using a keyboard/monitor at > the data center. In other words, sshd is not working. That sounds like either a hardware problem (ie CPU overheating or marginal PSU failing under production load), or less likely, some kind of software misconfiguration. System logs would be useful to see whether any signs of trouble are being mentioned. > I am now wondering what kind of format the FreeBSD install process > does by default, and if it is possible to do a low level format, > first, to block out any bad sectors (not sure if this is the right > terminology). > > I'm starting to get real depressed about this machine... You would > think a top-tier data center could keep the power on... SCSI drives support a standard mechanism called "format unit" to do a low-level format; ATA and SATA drives do not have a standard mechanism, but you might be able to find a utility from the manufacturer which can do such a thing. It would not be expected that doing such would be helpful, as any modern drive has automatic mechanisms to replace bad sectors with spares transparently, at least until the drive has gotten to such a condition that it's out of spare sectors (in which case the entire drive is likely to be toast soon, anyway, and should be replaced ASAP). However, if you do suspect drive problems, try installing and running smartctl from /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools, and do a self-test or two. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:53:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A044910656D5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453D38FC0C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B015DF80F3; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 0F5D2280B3; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180711d-abefbbb000000259-94-49dbad9ad718 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id E94FF280A3; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <8A4AF434-2F31-4664-8408-AAA7FDD61B4A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: John Almberg In-Reply-To: <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:34 -0700 References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:53:04 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, John Almberg wrote: >> That sounds like either a hardware problem (ie CPU overheating or >> marginal PSU failing under production load), or less likely, some >> kind of software misconfiguration. System logs would be useful to >> see whether any signs of trouble are being mentioned. > > Apparently, power was fluctuating drastically before they decided to > cut power, so a hardware problem is a definite possibility. A PSU > failure would not surprise me in the circumstances. > > Assuming I can ever ssh in again, what log would hardware failures > be reported to? Start with /var/log/messages and output of "dmesg" command. Doing an "ls -ltr /var/log" and looking at others which have changed recently would also be advisable... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 19:54:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478CF1065677 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05ADC8FC20 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrHN7-000KMc-VC for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:14 +0400 Received: from bsam by h30.sp.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrHN7-0003Jo-OS for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400 Message-ID: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:54:15 -0000 Hello List, I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input value. Should this makefile work? ----- LIST=f8 f9 all: @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) @echo The value is invalid .else @echo The value is valid .endif ----- % make USE_LINUX=f8 USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 The value is invalid ----- WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 20:17:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BFD10656C1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80428FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538923147EE; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:17:42 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: ypRZdORvc4xN90sm7uaU0J3sA8SSY59gmmocnc7JES5X 1239135461 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D40AD26DC4; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4C066892-ECA3-4914-872F-A06A5D3473B1@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: new_guy In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904061859m7072d073w4e876aa6a8f7a6b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:40 -0500 References: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> <4ad871310904061859m7072d073w4e876aa6a8f7a6b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portupgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:17:43 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM, new_guy wrote: >> Is there a way to use portupgrade without all the stopping for config >> questions? > You could add: > > BATCH=yes > > to /etc/make.conf. Or use the --batch command line option to portupgrade. Or use the -c option (as mentioned by someone else in this thread) to do all of the config questions up front. I didn't know about that one. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 20:43:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09C4106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DF98FC18 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n37Kgg87080396; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:42:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7E4ABBA8A; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:42:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:42:42 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090407204242.GD62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:43:02 -0000 --1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:44:20PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > Apparently, power was fluctuating drastically before they decided to =20 > cut power, so a hardware problem is a definite possibility. A PSU =20 > failure would not surprise me in the circumstances. >=20 > Assuming I can ever ssh in again, what log would hardware failures be =20 > reported to? Often hardware problems can lock up or reboot the machine without any warning in the logs. :-( It is next to impossible for PC class hardware to catch hardware failures. But sysutils/healthd or sysutils/mbmon might help in that they monitor vital motherboard parameters, which can then be logged.=20 Some systems log thermal events through the ACPI system or via the coretemp driver, in which case devd(8) should get them. See devd.conf(5) in a recent 7-STABLE, this manpage was recently enhanced by yours truly. Big programs like compilers randomly dying with a signal 11 (SIGSEGV, segmentation violation) can be a sign of memory problems. If someone has access to the machine, have them make sure there are no loose connectors and that any expansion cards are properly seated. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknbusIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXRgACeJl5NtDKuHkNkea+L2AqjR1Wi yUIAnRWHJOPTjkWptMvoJ1wX/CcjX2S8 =+739 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 20:52:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D121065677 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A298FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA90059D4E4; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:52:38 +0100 Message-ID: <49DBBD16.70204@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:52:38 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <20090404170401.c0f0bce0.freebsd@edvax.de> <49D789BD.7020103@infracaninophile.co.uk> <49DA7BF0.80403@onetel.com> <49DAF4AF.4060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49DAF4AF.4060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:52:52 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> You've suggested solutions to a couple of Polytropon's objections, >> thank you. Do you think there is anough mileage in my suggestion to >> make it worth putting in front of some ports people? What would have >> to happen to take it forward? I could rewrite the proposal more clearly. > > Any well-considered proposal is interesting, and suitable fodder for the > freebsd-ports@... mailing list. However you must be prepared for your > ideas to undergo some fairly rigourous critique by people who have spent > a great deal of time in doing exactly the sort of operations you are > talking > about. It can be pretty daunting -- remember though that it is your > /ideas/ > that are being dissected: it's not a personal attack against you for having > the temerity to try and suggest something. > > Also, as ever in the FreeBSD world, code speaks louder than words. It's > easy for anyone to come up with a proposal, hard to turn that into a > prototype > that demonstrates the validity of your ideas. Expect skepticism until you > have done that. >> I suspect it would be easier to implement than freebsd-update, as a >> good deal of the infrastructure already exists, and would have similar >> benefits. To start developing it would require a ports tree and a >> selection of packages compiled from that ports tree. 7.2 Release is >> coming up. Maybe the ports tree plus packages from that would be a >> good place to start. > > freebsd-update and portsnap existed only on Colin Percival's own machines > for quite some time, and then they were made available through ports > before being accepted into the core system. That is the usual sort of > progression > for any major new system modifications. > > The infrastructure may well exist, but don't assume that there is any spare > capacity on it. Getting time on the ports build cluster for running > experiments > is not impossible, but it's somewhere way down the queue after the daily > work of building packages for the FTP sites and testing the effects of bug > fixes in the bsd.ports.mk infrastructure or important and highly > interconnected > groups of ports like xorg or gnome. Also, right before 7.2-RELEASE is > probably > not the best time as that's when things are most hectic. Right /after/ > 7.2-RELEASE would be better > > I think your basic idea of snapshotting the ports tree at regular intervals > and building a self-consistent group of desktop related applications is a > pretty good one actually. You need to work a bit on the details -- for > instance, is it worthwhile rebuilding (say) the X libraries if there have > been no changes to them since the previous snapshot? Also, I'd take a good > look at exactly how the PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD groups deal with this > problem. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > All your points and your encouragement taken on board, thank you. I have a bit of spare time next week so I am going to work on this then thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 21:05:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1552F106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BC38FC18 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 98675 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (216.220.115.193) by smtp.bway.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:05:51 -0000 From: mv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:05:50 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <22920813.post@talk.nabble.com> <4ad871310904061859m7072d073w4e876aa6a8f7a6b1@mail.gmail.com> <4C066892-ECA3-4914-872F-A06A5D3473B1@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <4C066892-ECA3-4914-872F-A06A5D3473B1@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904071705.51004.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: new_guy , Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: portupgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:05:53 -0000 On Tue, 7 April 2009 16:17:40 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM, new_guy wrote: > >> Is there a way to use portupgrade without all the stopping for > >> config questions? > > > > You could add: > > > > BATCH=yes > > > > to /etc/make.conf. > > Or use the --batch command line option to portupgrade. > > Or use the -c option (as mentioned by someone else in this thread) to > do all of the config questions up front. I didn't know about that > one. > > -j Or use portconfig -a My usual updating routine involves: - update the ports tree using csup - update the INDEX-x with the command "make index" in the directory "/usr/ports" - download all the tarballs upfront with the command "portfetch -a -v" - do all the configuration upfront with the command "portconfig -a" - do an unattended compile/install of the ports with the command "portmaster -a -u -d -v" The ports portconfig & portfetch are part of sysutils/bsdadminscripts. Portmaster can be found at ports-mgmt/portmaster. It is possible to write a simple shell script that automatically does all of the above. The only time attention is required is to enter data during the configuration process. Cheers... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 21:09:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789AF106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AA88FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343C9EB53FB; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C145088; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:45 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64vWBtMoCZ6G; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl16-193.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.143.193]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86B94503F; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n37L9iOp063091; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n37L9hJp063090; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:09:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Boris Samorodov References: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:09:43 +0300 In-Reply-To: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> (Boris Samorodov's message of "Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400") Message-ID: <871vs49nmw.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:09:46 -0000 On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hello List, > > I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input > value. Should this makefile work? > > ----- > LIST=f8 f9 > > all: > @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} > .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) > @echo The value is invalid > .else > @echo The value is valid > .endif > ----- > % make USE_LINUX=f8 > USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 > The value is invalid > ----- Hi Boris! :) This is not exactly what you asked for, but you can probably loop instead of trying to match regular expressions: keramida@kobe:/tmp$ cat -n Makefile 1 LIST= f8 f9 2 USE_LINUX?= f9 3 4 LINUX_VERSION= ${USE_LINUX:C/[ ]*([^ ]*)[ ]*/\1/} 5 6 .if defined(USE_LINUX) 7 .for item in ${LIST} 8 .if ${USE_LINUX} == ${item} 9 RESULT= ${item} 10 .endif 11 .endfor 12 .endif 13 14 all: 15 .if empty(RESULT) 16 @echo Version ${LINUX_VERSION} is not valid. 17 .else 18 @echo Valid version ${RESULT} selected. 19 .endif keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make Valid version f9 selected. keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make -e USE_LINUX=f10 Version f10 is not valid. keramida@kobe:/tmp$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 21:18:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBE91065673 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from campaign@dabber.tv) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35E8FC0A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from campaign@dabber.tv) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49D528C40022A41A for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:57:58 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoHAPta20lV5XV0PGdsb2JhbACCKBUYg2ePWgEBAQETHLgYAYI1gUUG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,339,1235948400"; d="scan'208,217";a="504388137" Received: from c-7475e555.016-94-73746f11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO [192.168.0.10]) ([85.229.117.116]) by ironport1.bredband.com with SMTP; 07 Apr 2009 22:57:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:57:58 +0200 Mime-version: 1.0 From: Daniel Daboczy - DABBER.tv To: Message-Id: <472257.CTDHAJKJ@dabber.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Presenting Yale as a new client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: daniel@dabber.tv List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:18:44 -0000 Presenting Yale as a new client We are very proud to present a new collaboration with Yale Dabber presents it=B4s biggest player so far and is proud to introduce the = collaboration with the global company Assa-Abloy and the brand Yale Locks. = The 42 films in the Yale Feeling Safe project about safety, security, favou= rite places and favourite things are developed to show that all over the wo= rld, people are actively securing what they care about; their home, their f= amily, their personal belongings or their business with the name they trust= =2E We have focused on developing the player for faster delivery and smoother u= ser interaction. 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(jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 21:42:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090407204242.GD62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> <20090407204242.GD62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <14CAA4F0-E027-4C28-B53D-A781E8F8CF68@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:41:27 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:41:30 -0000 Thanks for all the tips. At least I have something to start with. The guys in the data center reinstalled FreeBSD (the filesystem was totally corrupted again), and then ran what they called "SMART test", which might be smartctl, and said the hard drives look good. I am now able to get back in. So the system ran fine until I put a load on it with the database (many transactions a second). This corrupted the file system again. So I guess I need to load it enough to produce error messages (hopefully) but not enough to destroy the file system again. Sounds like fun :-( This is an Intel server, not a crummy white box, so hopefully it is smart enough to monitor its own hardware at least a bit. We'll see. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 21:54:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E241065676 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CD88FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2481749fxm.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2ejCTItX2rP/SiJC/4+Xth7QMDzSfD8AI82vGGl63u8=; b=Ww5MqyFk1/Xbg3isDTHt2cLsBCNERqq4bGOH8r4iVgLVEk7pl2ca0X5tCGtQ1awisK GAcQEslzzbKmfCq43cp96LdQVDZ/+90g9EENDlqdnNh68+I22Pv/S4uloP9dp6OLr0Kp PvtdAhm3PgU+/lA/IXE51vv1Rc325pgfBAofo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T1smtBgJf9lkYAlWSqoKuOTcIcv0F0p5/0vaBsNV8K0izzAPeg2ZstHHs21TrXVp0g m99ICJKm3EmG67bsjHD+KGqRtI6Ug0nDoVEc947iq3GrLP6V/FtRY8d+Xv0zKuTwuUoE 8SO95IB7e4O4DyKicDl28jC2z6IYf1+TJdZE4= Received: by 10.204.116.9 with SMTP id k9mr501668bkq.164.1239141252476; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4489554.home.otenet.gr [94.71.77.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm2276272fkd.12.2009.04.07.14.54.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:54:10 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:54:15 -0000 Inspired by the recent discussion on the list concerning openoffice.org-3.01 packages, I have created a set of packages for the i386 architecture using my tinderbox system. Glen Barber has kindly offered *lots* of his webspace to host these packages for everyone's benefit. These packages are available from the following location: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/ And the main package to download would be: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz All the other packages are build and/or run dependencies of the above. On a system that already has a running GUI, most (if not all) of these packages are probably installed already. Please note the following: * The openoffice.org-3.01 package was built using a tinderbox system running 7.1-RELEASE-p4 i386. The ports tree was updated before the build. As a result this package is in sync with the latest versions of its dependencies and you may have trouble installing / running it in systems with outdated packages. A portupgrade is recommended before installation. * All the dependencies are provided in the same directory. It is possible to use pkg_add -r to recursively fetch any dependencies not present in your system: - First, redefince the PACKAGESITE environment variable: (assuming csh) setenv PACKAGESITE http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/ - Use pkg_add -r: pkg_add -r openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz * The package and all dependencies were built with default options. The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still working on the web content. Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and success stories!) either on the list or directly. If this proves to be successful, we could also build and host other packages as well. Cheers, Manolis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 22:01:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3758B106568D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E582A8FC1F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so8402166gxk.19 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:01:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q2pMfUuP+DlbeIOo6jugmdVkwF3D3XX4ZdIoh6pVfF8=; b=FudhW0LBvvvrzV9lJpVHXlz0edttgoHoSRpum9poxSJ5LeeAfpeblI/VrvWR97aHPE 3brFA0g030T9jJINvd0qNEcfMXUIpbLHE8X2gO7FiO8gcQDXy/W9owjm0+IBuvxPc3IX cdUoa/RX0VFH7Tpy1K3+PGFPpl/23tXtUZxSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ktny1NbeTwtH0MxIz6WjFg1HKiLguShS7TKvbl0FlexRVK0ITfvQmIFNgF8E1ZY/YV txrTKnHXO0s4QQkK2VCgveIhqHwYJllHBxajk4hVl2GRv3+5tDzDJ9ri3RuXWmJg5RKu X3kVp5B+r/e3ysipCj+Rkwlbpc1KUtMDJTqKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.202.9 with SMTP id z9mr1041978ybf.244.1239140103796; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:35:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:35:03 -0400 Message-ID: <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:01:52 -0000 On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi all > [...] > > My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. Make > that ports tree available as part of this package system and compile a > typical desktop set of ports, particularly choosing ones which are large > or have many dependencies. When it is all complete release it and start > again. Surely quite a wide selection of desktops, wm's and apps could be > compiled in a couple of weeks? A lot of ports are already available as packages. Do you simply want more ports available as packages, or a more fundamental change? > > Modify pkg_add so that it can be told to use this 'snapshot' including > downloading the fixed ports tree that was used. What is the benefit of this? > > Some benefits to this system are > - much easier for lower power or laptop users to keep their desktop > machine up to date A large subset of ports are already available as packages. Would making more of them available solve the problem you perceive? Who would decide what the appropriate default configuration should be for each port? > - problems with particular ports can be centrally fixed by knowledgeable > people, possibly reducing time on lists. Huh? Aren't they already? > - reduced energy use for everyone. I think the difference in energy use would be so small as to be pointless. If I have a system that consumes 75 kilowatt hours per month, and I spend an extra 0.05 kilowatt hour per month updating ports, is the difference (less than 1/10 of 1 percent) really meaningful? I can't even measure my power usage accurately enough to detect the difference. Convince me to use three liters less hot water per month, and you will save more energy. > - the ports system is still available for those who do want to change > the config options > - ports which are not included in the snapshot are still available - > since this system has already provided the larger ports as packages, the > remaining ones would be less onerous to install That's already done. > - ports that are installed with make install would maintain > compatibility with the other installed packages. In what way are they now not compatible? > - don't need to mess with portupgrade etc. What's the significant difference between messing with pkg_add and messing with portupgrade? A large subset of ports are already available as packages, so it isn't clear to me how this proposal is significantly improved over using "portupgrade -PR _portname_" when a port needs updating. Or "portupgrade -PRa" when you feel the urge to bring everything up to date. Installing and using portaudit is another useful step in the process. It will send you email to tell you WHEN you should use portupgrade. Of course, it uses energy to do so. > - it could (I think) be fitted fairly well into the existing package > building process. > - it generally increases the useability of FreeBSD as a desktop system. > [...] How is it an improvement over the existing tools? I must be missing something, because it sounds to me like you are merely asking that there be more ports made available as packages than are now offered. To me, the best way to improve FreeBSD as a desktop system would be to get Flash 9, 10, etc. working properly (this seems to have recently been accomplished for Flash 9), and to figure out how to get the Gnome-related stuff to update smoothly without the constant need for manual interference (I get tired of running gnomeloganalyzer). But that's a discussion for a different thread. -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdlists@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:13:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2741A106568C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979B28FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LrKU4-0008Ey-5i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:13:36 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:13:36 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:13:36 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:14:17 -0400 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> <20090407204242.GD62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <14CAA4F0-E027-4C28-B53D-A781E8F8CF68@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:13:38 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > Thanks for all the tips. At least I have something to start with. > > The guys in the data center reinstalled FreeBSD (the filesystem was > totally corrupted again), and then ran what they called "SMART test", > which might be smartctl, and said the hard drives look good. > > I am now able to get back in. > > So the system ran fine until I put a load on it with the database > (many transactions a second). This corrupted the file system again. > > So I guess I need to load it enough to produce error messages > (hopefully) but not enough to destroy the file system again. > > Sounds like fun :-( > > This is an Intel server, not a crummy white box, so hopefully it is > smart enough to monitor its own hardware at least a bit. We'll see. > Just a tidbit or two. If it has an ICHR type South Bridge with what Intel calls "Matrix RAID" there has been reported problems with trying to use the RAID functionality. If you are not using the RAID make sure the data center guys are turning this off in the BIOS. Whenever I see these kinds of reports about data corruption correlating with SMART saying the drives are "good" I think disk controller. It does seem strange if the problem was not present previous to the "power fluctuations". But where hardware damage occurs can be funky. At least with the box I once had that took a direct lightning strike it was interesting to see where the lightening bounced around inside. If this is a 1u pizza box with only one power supply I would suspect the power supply of being damaged from the power problem. If it is a relatively low wattage unit then the damage sustained has created a situation where it doesn't have enough overhead to provide regulated pure DC when under full load. I remember a software company I worked for a few years stuck the old WORM drives in an HP Vectra desktop that only had a 135 watt power supply. You could see the power go all wonky with an oscilloscope as soon as that WORM drive started up, but the box worked well up until this point. At any rate, this all sounds like hardware to me. If it wasn't doing any of this before the so-called "power event" then I believe there has been hardware damage. Unless you are co-locating your own hardware it is the responsibility of the data center to provide you with functional hardware. After the first go around and the same problem resurfacing they should have yanked the box and just replaced it. Put a good one in service and troubleshoot the bad one off line. If they can't hold up their end of the deal you need to be looking somewhere else. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:13:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50710656BA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63FDA8FC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 62980 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 23:20:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 23:20:48 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:13:43 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:13:42 -0000 Hi all, To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to thousands of GB). The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private datacentre. Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? I recall a thread not too long ago regarding this, but I'd like to have a simple working example if possible, without getting into detail why one shouldn't transfer data unencrypted. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:23:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66FC1065670 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE358FC20 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1772142and.13 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hBa0zbz4GlPjsm6jaded/g8WL97CvsO5uLdi3YssWGs=; b=W2DWv9SRxMp/CCY4gP3miMXGcJ3IDt/PGaelvGEwQ/2z6xFGJqLPQdP7ndDukf5UO/ tuGfCLVurUlLZJufIx37c/IIsina2lcJIDdOtaGaxHXCP+Py+KDJA+Py3W9yZuoVUAAC qx3bXfKbrMNIaw+YN80Ve6j17zBF3H6Y3r2n0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a9WXSuoVJzPiuXtRAmIy4ZbTkPdskqY3hFlPuGy06HYhZFToVg8EGGi2Umq7WG+9E3 i8nDGZCbuqbWbuwYag4BZi+JVmsCE1ZKoxCRmzFvD60QjcdOZbC/qCjh2hbWdRvh6KF0 xmfkgLLT8U0XcDfuGcGEg1GiiisXDpzGxj484= Received: by 10.100.189.8 with SMTP id m8mr1365575anf.87.1239146605721; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm1468727and.4.2009.04.07.16.23.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DBE069.9080906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:23:21 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:23:27 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, > > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private datacentre. > > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > > I recall a thread not too long ago regarding this, but I'd like to have > a simple working example if possible, without getting into detail why > one shouldn't transfer data unencrypted. > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > dump should work, it uses rsh. something like cpio could be piped into rsh obviously. You may want to benchmark it as I've had better transfer rates using scp/ssh but have not done it against rsh method. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:29:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA56A106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4508FC0C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from MBook.home (pool-173-51-91-182.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.51.91.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n37NTCdc037084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: From: Doug Hardie To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:29:07 -0700 References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:29:14 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 16:13, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, > > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the > overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private > datacentre. > > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? In that environment you can use ftp just fine. Make sure to restrict it to the local IP addresses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:31:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107ED106566C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 963B78FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 64818 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 23:38:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 23:38:24 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBE246.2040107@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:31:18 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:31:20 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2009, at 16:13, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. >> >> I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead >> of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to >> thousands of GB). >> >> The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private >> datacentre. >> >> Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism >> that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > > In that environment you can use ftp just fine. Make sure to restrict it > to the local IP addresses. Thanks, but I've never found a way to copy complete directories with FTP. I'll need to copy entire multi-nested directory structures. Do you have an example how to do this via FTP? (CLI-only). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:31:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2675C1065727 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD078FC1D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CEE5DFFD85; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id DAACA280AF; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:52 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180711d-aa6f8bb000000259-d7-49dbe2680001 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id C2A28280B4; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <814E16A3-0A92-4204-AC6A-2C20C2C8A7F2@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:52 -0700 References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:31:53 -0000 On Apr 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the > overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private > datacentre. > > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? Install /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable, and set the "Enable HPN- SSH patch" option. You should then be able to use "scp -c none" option, which is documented more fully here: http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/none.php You could also use rsync + rsyncd.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:37:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8C71065740 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CC358FC1F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 65608 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2009 23:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 23:45:03 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBE3D5.1070002@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:37:57 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> <814E16A3-0A92-4204-AC6A-2C20C2C8A7F2@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <814E16A3-0A92-4204-AC6A-2C20C2C8A7F2@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:37:56 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Apr 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead >> of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to >> thousands of GB). >> >> The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private >> datacentre. >> >> Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism >> that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > > Install /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable, and set the "Enable > HPN-SSH patch" option. You should then be able to use "scp -c none" > option, which is documented more fully here: > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/none.php > > You could also use rsync + rsyncd.... Thanks Chuck, I think I'll just go the rsync route. I'm very familiar with it. I don't particularly want to install it on the boxes I'm concerned with momentarily, but I know how it works. Your other option seems intriguing, but I'd rather not install more software on these boxes if possible. I was hoping for a magical, don't have to install anything-type solution :) Perhaps I left out an important piece... even though I'm copying directory structures, in many cases the bulk of the data will be contained within massively large individual files. (Hence why rsync wasn't my original choice). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:54:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F21D106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3968FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1781273and.13 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WqsLYeL6RjgfrMzXPSlGy412GMpmTnGG1rfiJwQidUI=; b=JjpmZATSr6KyUplveR8/SM+KtXYZz1agMDYfgsKliRFLKCDOL9aZPzOtcvl88u5KCU RjPCWZP3uvcBHZLK6h6jyqBy0pI058YgSZfW5BRja4JupMHeLka6QJ4D5aV8I5ziyZT+ pCpoFddsiWbS6K+no0j5EYMkvWuwdcGZIa2UU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c+a7Ynu1XmQuEUu3VDzNJ7XdAp1oZBRX2zhigo3HpeXrd3JqzIsZzfrlAiYhGku5nC jpDCeaq6WtjoHpcnoHA+KVuZKtIed3DFCHJfrDR7i4hqZ86Ncfs8boLnGBDEdyUr1mz8 9d38mlv6iU81pAwkwjUpTw1EHXfMwVfr6H/Tk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.33.15 with SMTP id g15mr1488571ang.48.1239148438925; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:53:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:00 -0000 Manolis, Thanks again for taking the time for this. [snip] > > The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still > working on the web content. > > Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and > success stories!) either on the list or directly. =A0If this proves to be > successful, we could also build and host other packages as well. > Any problems with the site, please contact me so I can notify my hosting provider, as I don't have physical access to the server. Thanks! --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A1C106564A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dstegner@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0507D8FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dstegner@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aal9MwC+8Tkl2XkyHWUDXXWhmA/4aEzGl2hj911U782ZeL23rVvDmfCYMF9mRPs3; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [64.183.64.218] (helo=xws001) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LrKvZ-0001LF-7b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:42:01 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c9b7da$76575c00$69dea8c0@xws001> From: "Dave Stegner" To: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:42:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 4844461f90b6f2561aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79dd30e00706286e04f085dbc92640ac82350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.183.64.218 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mysql make question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:56:45 -0000 I am venturing into Mysql. I am trying to install it from the port, = 5.1.33. Simple question: Immediately after the start of make, you are presented with a list of = options. Are those options selected by entering them on the make line like: make BUILD_OPTIMIZED=3Dyes BUILD_STATIC=3Dyes Sorry for such a simple question but, I searched and could not find = answer. David R. 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Visit the web site Yale - Feeling Safe to try out the player: here /Daniel Daboczy CEO Dabber.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 00:32:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A0106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2008FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id C3E6D16B548; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:32:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.81]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF86516B514; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Dave Stegner In-Reply-To: <000801c9b7da$76575c00$69dea8c0@xws001> Message-ID: <20090407192917.N49321@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <000801c9b7da$76575c00$69dea8c0@xws001> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql make question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:32:11 -0000 On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Dave Stegner wrote: > > I am venturing into Mysql. I am trying to install it from the port, 5.1.33. > > Simple question: > > Immediately after the start of make, you are presented with a list of > options. > > Are those options selected by entering them on the make line like: > > make BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes Yes. Note however that test in most cases is only for the *existence* of the argument, so WITH_OPENSSL="yes" is the same as WITH_OPENSSL="no"; If you don't want WITH_OPENSSL, don't use the argument at all. Obviously there are a few which actually use the value like WITH_XCHARSET. It will pay to learn to read Makefiles well enough to see what arguments the Makefile accepts and what it tests them for. In this case you will see that most arguments are tested only for defined. Many ports give you a nice interface to set options and remember some options for future builds. You can set these by running make config. But no joy with mysql. > Sorry for such a simple question but, I searched and could not find > answer. In most cases the defaults are good. Unless you are already familiar with the application and know what you want and why you want it, it is generally best to leave the defaults alone. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 01:05:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39CD106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3F58FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2562821ewy.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:05:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6g+Pb54XUUYcEwZjvqNXlnQC9urATksSMoFk4g3dCbg=; b=S3j81nUSYUvlaLUg87lbcSNUexugpqLjqwKujmi13+w3+WdTgUmxVYXZHyWFMbOOtY DMqfg/HGK5+etVEV76f8ZCxXeTjkZCr5ctZ5MbSirnCplVJFz4gF3ZF2YHA6ttFXSIkP G69/8D23YW8yAzrRsT9oDM1OZ3Kpd5Ujnx9rA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cjuUK/k2s71Ft2JsXvCNxOtexoBAiH4d8X5dGtISp74pSRdtp2qpz2mUJn4gE4bq0u RQI/0iaWexiYRrHwu/tVfhSjCb1Jd2el6CkIGMWhiWq8Fg+smsSqw2TCUWvkYgFGewKl p/qmn+xblJL3dCbXEygs/5ySPyZU/rK/wPnBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.91.7 with SMTP id o7mr2407000ebb.62.1239151148649; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:39:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1b30fd140904071739m41ae936es9a022c97e4f66630@mail.gmail.com> From: David Collins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:05:47 -0000 Hi, I have just realised that my computer is making a ton of noise, and I would like it to make less. I have the following in my rc.conf powerd_enable="YES" powerd_flags="-a minimum" I have checked that cpufreq is loaded using kldload. When I run powerd from the command line I get the following viper:~$ sudo powerd powerd: lookup freq: No such file or directory I also have the following viper:~$ sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU_ dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% I've googled this but not managed to find a solution. How can I get this to work? thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 01:08:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE471065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869EE8FC1D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3813vkj095620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:03:57 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n38188Y7060178; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:08:08 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:08:08 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904080108.n38188Y7060178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: steve@ibctech.ca In-reply-to: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> (message from Steve Bertrand on Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:13:43 -0400) References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:08:12 -0000 Hi, > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? I sometime use tar+rsh. Tar because I want to be sure to preserve all ownership and modes of the files and directories. Bests, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 05:14:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68481065672; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D888FC12; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73DB136873; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id BD2433D18D; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784B13D18D; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A5CAE7AA8; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:14:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DC32B8.8060000@esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:14:33 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <49DB0B07.1030703@esiee.fr> <20090407141239.GA4757@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20090407141239.GA4757@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migration to 7.1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:14:43 -0000 Ewald Jenisch wrote: >>> Does the LAGG driver works well with broadcomm giga ethernet chips ? >>> ( I plan to use LACP to a Cisco switch ) >> Try asking at freebsd-net@ >> > > Hi, > > I've been running with the lagg-driver for quite some time now on > several blade-systems using broadcom chips in a failover > configuration - no problems whatsoever - failover/fallback all ok. > > LACP shouldn't be a problem either - on the Cisco side define a port > channel using LACP plus optional a balancing strategy (like mac-based etc.) > > HTH > -ewald > Hello Thanks for your feedback Frank > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 05:41:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4C5106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9118FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35A5130D83; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2939130D82; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40594687C; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DC38FE.20207@isafeelin.org> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:41:18 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:41:22 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, > > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private datacentre. > > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > On the listening end: cd / ; nc -l 12345 | tar xpvf - On the sending end: cd / ; tar cf - /path/file | nc 12345 Replace 'x' by 't' on the listening end to verify that it's going to do what you would want/expect. -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:05:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36989106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3538FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2551364bwz.43 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:05:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=K/UEIgfalyAxecqumHdNCXqzfS/OV6axYRyLMaOyRZw=; b=q0FvbYx1NXxDJlfqY/8DPYGbRHepmTPxa0mJRi6dN16eoPm0h6vAuK7xyfeihHKQbT Zm2nTbpIZEyi7IgMEk6vgPCy8tKlf4ueA4xqhlpdAf3nKYgBgTFbMnAVwmXVd1oflBrL p0YpTXcVLuhbLGkACYsH+Bbd3otoTEGD2wGRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FWapNj+trDuA664nhegYOatUYalMblF0sbokeDiZIc5MexZc7R1JkxluoAz1pqN/j8 7+aILFt8QNm8uLuDrrSP7xqB9agIur1g9Y/WZ5pucmx0thqZBITSjV350P00aO6mrz+m IJNI+RTmK4MebYgJXzIpBASOZryvyrPuXKw6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.194 with SMTP id s2mr301708faq.83.1239170754474; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:05:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090407160754.GA57933@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <991123400904070854k685256d8kdf65f1426560f708@mail.gmail.com> <20090407160754.GA57933@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:05:54 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400904072305j276bcac0qfe81724ee7431b0a@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Koffice in KDE-4.2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:05:56 -0000 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:54:02PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hello pple, > > > > I installed KDE-4.2.2 but I cannot see the office apps. What am I > missing? > > The Koffice version for KDE-4 is still in beta. > > Looking at the ports tree, there is only the > /usr/ports/editors/koffice-kde3 port (except from a lot of localization > ports). So it is not installed by default when I: cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make all install clean ??? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:08:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC274106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DD68FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D3E7E818; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:33 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:08:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <000801c9b7da$76575c00$69dea8c0@xws001> <20090407192917.N49321@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20090407192917.N49321@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904080808.05496.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Lars Eighner , Dave Stegner Subject: Re: Mysql make question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:08:35 -0000 On Wednesday 08 April 2009 02:30:03 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Dave Stegner wrote: > > I am venturing into Mysql. I am trying to install it from the port, > > 5.1.33. > > > > Simple question: > > > > Immediately after the start of make, you are presented with a list of > > options. > > > > Are those options selected by entering them on the make line like: > > > > make BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes > > Yes. Note however that test in most cases is only for the *existence* > of the argument, so WITH_OPENSSL="yes" is the same as WITH_OPENSSL="no"; In those cases you can also use -DWITH_OPENSSL. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:13:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B11065673 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D718FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE8A7E826; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:13:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:13:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> <49DBE246.2040107@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <49DBE246.2040107@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904080813.39869.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:13:42 -0000 On Wednesday 08 April 2009 01:31:18 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Doug Hardie wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2009, at 16:13, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > >> > >> I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead > >> of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > >> thousands of GB). > >> > >> The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private > >> datacentre. > >> > >> Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > >> that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > > > > In that environment you can use ftp just fine. Make sure to restrict it > > to the local IP addresses. > > Thanks, but I've never found a way to copy complete directories with FTP. > > I'll need to copy entire multi-nested directory structures. > > Do you have an example how to do this via FTP? (CLI-only). ftp/ncftp3: ncftpget -R ftp://servername/path/to/start/ -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:45:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39303106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77A98FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15587E818; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:45:05 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:45:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904080845.04576.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:45:07 -0000 On Tuesday 07 April 2009 21:54:13 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hello List, > > > I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input > value. Should this makefile work? > ----- > LIST=f8 f9 > > all: > @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} > .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) > @echo The value is invalid > .else > @echo The value is valid > .endif > ----- > % make USE_LINUX=f8 > USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 > The value is invalid > ----- Doesn't work because the match is not on words of the list but on the full list and you're not using globs. Aside from Giorgos' method, one might consider: LIST=f8 f9 LINUX_VER=invalid .for _VERSION in ${LIST} .if (${USE_LINUX} == "${_VERSION}") LINUX_VER=${_VERSION} .endif .endfor all: .if !empty(LINUX_VER:Minvalid) @echo "Invalid linux version: ${USE_LINUX}" .else @echo "Using linux version ${LINUX_VER}" .endif -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:59:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7431065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0108FC20 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=JmLAQlQ7GqyG+vw9Veby0BPDbr2enO1YM0WYY9J6+QC31l7lcAj0F3jqocnzEfarzCQOHSYCRshjjuJqloGYBMTnbuTmyK0wtLk3/4GK8CUFH0p9NuawtBbPj1AkvwRT; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:61216) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrRl9-000Fs7-Kp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:59:43 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:2) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:59:46 -0000 On Tuesday 07 April 2009 23:35:03 Bob Johnson wrote: > On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi all > > [...] > > > My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. Make > > that ports tree available as part of this package system and compile a > > typical desktop set of ports, particularly choosing ones which are large > > or have many dependencies. When it is all complete release it and start > > again. Surely quite a wide selection of desktops, wm's and apps could be > > compiled in a couple of weeks? > > How is it an improvement over the existing tools? I must be missing > something, because it sounds to me like you are merely asking that > there be more ports made available as packages than are now offered. I think what you're missing is the suggestion to bundle a set of pre-built packages with a snapshot of the ports tree used to build them. Currently it's difficult to mix and match packages and ports because the versions of dependencies are likely to differ between the package and the local version of the ports tree. If you know you have the same ports tree your packages were built from, you can much more easily combine pre-built packages and local builds from source. This has clear advantages. At the moment, unless you're very lucky with your timing, you tend to find that as soon as you want to build one port from source (perhaps to fiddle with the configuration) you have to stop using prebuilt packages altogether. The drawback I can see is the disk space required to keep several generations of packages online - if the package-port bundle is rebuilt every three weeks, let's say, and you want to keep 6 months' worth of packages online, you need to keep 9 complete versions available. Chris's suggestion is certainly more than just a request for more packages, though. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:04:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFC8106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D38FC20 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LrRqD-0003pD-Ih; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:04:57 +0400 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> <871vs49nmw.fsf@kobe.laptop> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:04:57 +0400 In-Reply-To: <871vs49nmw.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Wed\, 08 Apr 2009 00\:09\:43 +0300") Message-ID: <03710390@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:04:59 -0000 On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:09:43 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input > > value. Should this makefile work? > > > > ----- > > LIST=f8 f9 > > > > all: > > @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} > > .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) > > @echo The value is invalid > > .else > > @echo The value is valid > > .endif > > ----- > > % make USE_LINUX=f8 > > USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 > > The value is invalid > > ----- > Hi Boris! :) Hi Giorgos! :) > This is not exactly what you asked for, but you can probably loop > instead of trying to match regular expressions: > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ cat -n Makefile > 1 LIST= f8 f9 > 2 USE_LINUX?= f9 > 3 > 4 LINUX_VERSION= ${USE_LINUX:C/[ ]*([^ ]*)[ ]*/\1/} > 5 > 6 .if defined(USE_LINUX) > 7 .for item in ${LIST} > 8 .if ${USE_LINUX} == ${item} > 9 RESULT= ${item} > 10 .endif > 11 .endfor > 12 .endif > 13 > 14 all: > 15 .if empty(RESULT) > 16 @echo Version ${LINUX_VERSION} is not valid. > 17 .else > 18 @echo Valid version ${RESULT} selected. > 19 .endif > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make > Valid version f9 selected. > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make -e USE_LINUX=f10 > Version f10 is not valid. > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ Thanks, that would fit enough. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:10:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827B5106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD638FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LrRvE-0003tM-1M; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:10:08 +0400 To: Mel Flynn References: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> <200904080845.04576.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:10:08 +0400 In-Reply-To: <200904080845.04576.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> (Mel Flynn's message of "Wed\, 8 Apr 2009 08\:45\:04 +0200") Message-ID: <37630079@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:10:09 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:45:04 +0200 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 21:54:13 Boris Samorodov wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > > > I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input > > value. Should this makefile work? > > ----- > > LIST=f8 f9 > > > > all: > > @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} > > .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) > > @echo The value is invalid > > .else > > @echo The value is valid > > .endif > > ----- > > % make USE_LINUX=f8 > > USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 > > The value is invalid > > ----- Hi Mel! > Doesn't work because the match is not on words of the list but on the full > list and you're not using globs. You are ringht, but not for the case. The case here seems to exist because variables are not guaranteed to be expanded for M modifier. I.e. even with globs the result will not be as expected. > Aside from Giorgos' method, one might consider: > LIST=f8 f9 > LINUX_VER=invalid > .for _VERSION in ${LIST} > .if (${USE_LINUX} == "${_VERSION}") > LINUX_VER=${_VERSION} > .endif > .endfor > all: > .if !empty(LINUX_VER:Minvalid) > @echo "Invalid linux version: ${USE_LINUX}" > .else > @echo "Using linux version ${LINUX_VER}" > .endif Works. Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:15:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFAE1065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572D08FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n387ApKp012106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:10:51 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n387F3ZY003171; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:15:03 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:15:03 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904080715.n387F3ZY003171@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: TeX/LaTeX in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:15:06 -0000 Hi, I build print/tex and print/latex from the ports, but I must be forgetting some configuration somewhere, because when trying to compose qa document LaTeX cannot find the various include files like article.cls That must be a very stupid mistake. Few years ago I did build TeX/laTeX from the ports, but I cannot find out what I did then to make it work. TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:17:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C744106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC0B8FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B4B7E821; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:17:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lconrad@go2france.com Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:17:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <200904071605.AA870842786@mail.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <200904071605.AA870842786@mail.Go2France.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904080917.05507.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: SQLgrey not happy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:17:08 -0000 On Tuesday 07 April 2009 16:05:53 Len Conrad wrote: > Trying to install everything via pkgs, but it messed up. > > fbsd 7.1 > > SQLgrey 1.7.6 installed as pkg_add > > p5-DBD-mysql installed as: > > pkg_add -r > ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-current/All/p5-DBD >-mysql-4.010.tbz > Apr 7 08:25:22 mx1 sqlgrey: fatal: Can't locate loadable object for module > DBD::mysql in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN ^^^^^ Ports is at 5.8.9 since a few, so my guess is that p5-DBD-mysql-4.010 is installed in /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN. You probably ignored the warning that "p5-DBD-mysql-4.010 requires perl-5.8.9 but perl-5.8.8_1 is installed". Upgrading perl or finding an older package is the solution. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE361106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ionut.vancea@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823C68FC20 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ionut.vancea@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1283820fka.11 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:49:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oAy7A86kJllMBcIRivPapQeez87TxoW+wx2lcs7+sdg=; b=o1vjQxhjPWC6WT5YhutqSOO4rD+UWvYhWpeiEfwY5zP22esKx9x2rMRc8zPnP80Pb+ FitQ284OHGfh1XzfjoZg837tQFDAYA+WNAkO4T5YN4C9l/evw6FTYRAYorgvm6/py5LE j0tKBhpH9zJdDpsrSvTFGpvbfZU/K14FKja0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=shBGCaCh0KfquNiTY8NChEKuQaiWaFwlJLOOEHpXmfveBlnzH3hnQfn3N4MHk1ITRz /5Rn1hG4u8Jzw+gulvGd6r5UV05UxbchT3458+J3yt6R+NRX9/jxh6brekmB9cDX1qaV 6lMBROLolyHjZbctlZjmuqlwFR9tIw/JKe8uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.214.8 with SMTP id r8mr395754muq.6.1239176997591; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:49:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904080715.n387F3ZY003171@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200904080715.n387F3ZY003171@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:49:57 +0100 Message-ID: <368177940904080049sec4dc1ajfee9ccb476d644c0@mail.gmail.com> From: Ionut Vancea To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TeX/LaTeX in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:50:00 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I build print/tex and print/latex from the ports, but I must be > forgetting some configuration somewhere, because when trying to > compose qa document LaTeX cannot find the various include files like > article.cls try to install print/teTeX as well, maybe it will solve your issue. > > That must be a very stupid mistake. Few years ago I did build > TeX/laTeX from the ports, but I cannot find out what I did then to > make it work. Cheers, -- === Ioan Vancea http://www.vioan.ro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:13:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7E410656C5 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rajb366a@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D238FC25 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rajb366a@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2866725wfg.7 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=O25SJMt9rkoNAaA78k+xj+dnhpxf4lIAchnxUqTkIko=; b=stwcUeIr+xVt8sYIcEk467V5RT0h7BI/qT6EIaUEbiUtoHx7Mmh3kMER9BNUC1smdo 7n8/PBKVs6Xhv/soparUPAw4LWLCf/Bg+XoATsoqH3ASDiLsnIk1YVmefQE9ObMI9824 DEfMrVG8InZbJnQDXbeqDKrXdIoxOA6rvnpUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oOg5XEkTWDYPOFaHnxRQc9WlZELKolqVKaWsUmonIWFt6WmXcl6kQ2JmSxzY9n63dh PoC9bqQn4XNCmEJvExTkbfPVa1DEI/jBTo8/q/Duenzk19lPz5qkfTUM8xBU9z8xK2xP 367C6DgkPnONWPUGizpNAvPSyOkiVecyqYuyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.139.14 with SMTP id m14mr355098wfd.159.1239177157187; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:22:37 +0530 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Sharma To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:54 -0000 Sir, I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & installed on my PC. But it starts in DOS Mode. I want to shift to Graphical Mode. Kindly advice me what to do. Thanks Rajeev Sharma rajb366a@gmail.com rajb366a@rediffmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:19:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A04106567D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF038FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2660523ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:19:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SIeaElT6pNM0OqhpsqMK5LE8butYPKEyDg+qIJrBqCk=; b=oLbERb0WBjsrHhwEglWoSf8Mr6mhDpg7cUfIfov1UO+hFomqJ5em6LXAKgYyaZaSvn A8xu0mk1Ghmo7a05NV2KYeXyOxED8ZRM0ALlPJz2/YozDPBnKOEBofnPTsoatrb9SkP1 na96YbttSJFstbMCtRNYnu/69KHQ1NEHEjoF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qI4ttLwPHx4sD9C2QMUPRnZxKXU6Nms4s6qYoTfHB1fUDdmiA+KlFIoLnTkuN3O5B0 T+MvXe/4vfQYwszEWww+frOhA7CcfmXb0dmbAU/4b9xDTJqf7+CGVHRI9HLcsg70+bq3 cGLSneR2AC98qJ0qZD/AwhG4XiWyvqa5fpXRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.11.13 with SMTP id 13mr3124013ebk.48.1239178766653; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:19:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:19:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Rajeev Sharma Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:19:31 -0000 On 4/8/09, Rajeev Sharma wrote: > Sir, > I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & installed FreeBSD is _not_ linux ;) > on my PC. But it starts in DOS Mode. aka "Console" mode. > > I want to shift to Graphical Mode. Once you log in, (use your login name and password), and assuming you installed some graphical environment, try to type: startx Cheers > > > Kindly advice me what to do. > > > Thanks > > > Rajeev Sharma > rajb366a@gmail.com > rajb366a@rediffmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:31:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBAB1065673 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF69E8FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.139] (unknown [192.168.1.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC603228475; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:31:54 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49DC60F8.1040300@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:31:52 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rajeev Sharma References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:31:56 -0000 Rajeev Sharma wrote: > Sir, > I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & installed > on my PC. But it starts in DOS Mode. > > I want to shift to Graphical Mode. > > > Kindly advice me what to do. > > > Thanks > > > Rajeev Sharma > rajb366a@gmail.com > rajb366a@rediffmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Better read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:50:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64513106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74A38FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrTUe-0003va-4p; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:50:48 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n388olAJ004186; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:50:47 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 54077FCA699; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:50:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:50:42 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Valentin Bud Message-ID: <20090408085042.GA54417@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Valentin Bud , freebsd-questions References: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:50:47 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:50:53 -0000 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:41:54AM +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: > > Hello community, > > I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that > can be controlled through the serial port. I have 2 plugs that i > can start/stop and check the status of them. This is accomplished > by sending different letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the > plugs and another set of letter for the other plug and one letter > to check the status. > > Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how > complicated would be to write a program so I can control that micro > controller through the serial port. Or is there some kind of > program that can read/write from/to the serial port from the > command line. I don't want an interactive program like minicom, > just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my > case) to the serial port. > > Why not minicom (or any other program like it)? My goal is to be > able to start/stop the plugs using a web interface. I have tried > using minicom and background it but when i log out minicom closes. > If minicom is started i can send commands to ttyd0 with echo, but i > can't read anything from serial. > > Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be > to write a C program to control the micro controller through the > serial port. > > Of course on FreeBSD :). > About 10 years ago I adapted a a C program that was used to control a board (which basically had a chip and a thermocouple on it) via the serial port. IIRC, the C was relatively simple but if you're a total beginner then it would be hard without cribbing code off the 'net. If you want to learn C then go for it but if you don't you'd be better off using one of the scripting languages: perl, python, ruby etc. and your development time will be much reduced. Also they all have facilities for easily converting your program to use the CGI so that you can webify the control and I'm sure they all have some module for using a serial port (comms/p5-Device-SerialPort in ports for perl). Have fun! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 09:18:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539A3106567C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF958FC1F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB6E7E818; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:17:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:17:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.0; i386; ; ) References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <5C4F1A401C316B7D2F625CCF@Macintosh-2.local> <49DB4D3E.3070301@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <49DB4D3E.3070301@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904081117.58218.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: DAve Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:18:01 -0000 On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:55:26 DAve wrote: > > However, I would suggest that you provide, as you suggest, a separate > > instance of mysql just for this client as well. If they screw up the > > instance they won't affect other customers. To run a separate instance, > > I would suggest using different names for the binaries, conf files and > > datadir. This can be easily done using symlinks; e.g. mysql and > > mysql-special. Then copy the startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, > > rename it to mysql-special and edit it to change all references to the > > newly-named instance. Use a my-special.cnf file for the special > > instance and reference it in /etc/rc.conf using mysql_args=. > > Thanks, looks like it would be doable. I do plan to use a separate > my.cnf, separate logging, and even a seperate mysql DB. I was going to > share the binaries but I may rethink that decision after your suggestion. Any reason a jail can't be used? This would allow sharing the binary using null or union fs, little overhead, yet seperated from host install and no maintenance of port installed files, like rc.d/mysql-server. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 09:37:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957C6106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500C68FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LrUDV-0005ih-FY; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:37:09 +0400 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <37646522@h30.sp.ipt.ru> <871vs49nmw.fsf@kobe.laptop> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:37:09 +0400 In-Reply-To: <871vs49nmw.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Wed\, 08 Apr 2009 00\:09\:43 +0300") Message-ID: <89475722@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make, list and M pattern X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:37:12 -0000 On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:09:43 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:54:13 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > > I need to create a list with some valid values and check an input > > value. Should this makefile work? > > > > ----- > > LIST=f8 f9 > > > > all: > > @echo USE_LINUX=${USE_LINUX}, LIST=${LIST} > > .if empty(LIST:M${USE_LINUX}) > > @echo The value is invalid > > .else > > @echo The value is valid > > .endif > > ----- > > % make USE_LINUX=f8 > > USE_LINUX=f8, LIST=f8 f9 > > The value is invalid > > ----- > Hi Boris! :) Hi Giorgos, Mel and list! > This is not exactly what you asked for, but you can probably loop > instead of trying to match regular expressions: > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ cat -n Makefile > 1 LIST= f8 f9 > 2 USE_LINUX?= f9 > 3 > 4 LINUX_VERSION= ${USE_LINUX:C/[ ]*([^ ]*)[ ]*/\1/} > 5 > 6 .if defined(USE_LINUX) > 7 .for item in ${LIST} > 8 .if ${USE_LINUX} == ${item} > 9 RESULT= ${item} > 10 .endif > 11 .endfor > 12 .endif > 13 > 14 all: > 15 .if empty(RESULT) > 16 @echo Version ${LINUX_VERSION} is not valid. > 17 .else > 18 @echo Valid version ${RESULT} selected. > 19 .endif > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make > Valid version f9 selected. > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ make -e USE_LINUX=f10 > Version f10 is not valid. > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ Hm, And what if I need to compare two lists and detect if they have any common items? VALID_LIST=f8 f9 INPUT_LIST=f6 f7 f8 Nested .for loops are not helpful since .if statement is not useful here: .for x in ${VALID_LIST} . for y in ${INPUT_LIST} . if $x == $y -- make error here Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 09:49:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B493106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9D88FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1LrUPi-0005DZ-3m; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:49:46 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:52:46 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:49:48 -0000 On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? If you are happy with rsh authentication, then have you looked at plain old rcp? A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 10:51:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09E106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE128FC24 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so59141bwz.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:51:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1wAYSnNdRUXcV71fBbVUqygM9e62VFyUBipuJGs4gNU=; b=JGYI/irYAo6YKwwobM/Ii+IPj0buZdVxFfg+aJAddx9lvYRE+uxBRDqDEgvVmdsieQ uczObYUBO4CnlFqxtNJq+TkjYHhlQHmnCJjI3jf6mc4dhuppwav/6D9pZyM7+pvdSbBZ RrIgZL7K/oI1ybopNyalGHqhXQTPk18RBaDDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=B6DbTOhXRBdmTe7M/oFhvv28QynbFxr2rC/FQgoC33vcVU+GRRac4jqw4LPBiqgT6H p3TCmrMK8pIntLXJlHdCRTNVO9ntJGKxUHZcTl7cTrKfN/zd/+Mun5jIWuPxNXouaPxY y5CzeeomsfaoEfxqAIVNcWQFS2yq5grbnSOVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.214.8 with SMTP id r8mr462514muq.6.1239186627622; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:30:27 +0400 Message-ID: From: pluknet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER in VNC-client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:51:43 -0000 Hi, folks. Is there any VNC-client able to throw ctrl-alt-esc event in order to break to debugger? I need this feature to control a guest FreeBSD which console is exported via VNC. Thanks. -- wbr, pluknet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 11:22:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED2F1065676 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851568FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38BLf9t009065; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38BLdpV009062; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rajeev Sharma In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:22:08 -0000 > I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & installed > on my PC. But it starts in DOS Mode. how you started FreeBSD in DOS mode? i would like to do so as i sometimes need to run DOS programs, but i have to boot DOS or use slow dosbox. tell me - it's interesting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 11:25:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521CA106567A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D4C8FC1D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so73231ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ew+qX6h8Ftnm/G4PIvyBxAhz/Bk1vadrctLN1HVHkvY=; b=RoYhf6hxDL6Vt1OfPhaZmV0luuY7HCAx+WCJLIyAnOqB5mJzn1LQPYYVjJAQXNcn4Q TyVrNKBOtxNMrgUb+0PIJ33kFalSgX9WdSC3ZCtKhlHOmZc7lB9iOwmK22iujQw8MMXP D5DyC579EQj64N5gu3HZx6UOYp8GNODs4tenU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AHdXL22JfW44XLpQu69lmqAsvYxfMn0WdbsCtWNGu+iUxSCztpJLGjvZu1MI/XQry+ oC40jQuhMSkr5fmC5PJFUeEhK/foxbj0QzbawnuF2g0UPZPO68d8RrmDc1goDUIuFkvS aXzOBrlNQkWbE9COMs2R4uzGjy2NsFMDarWtM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.57.12 with SMTP id f12mr1094807eba.4.1239189939893; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:25:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:25:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:25:41 -0000 2009/4/8 Wojciech Puchar : >> =A0 =A0 I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & insta= lled >> on my PC. =A0But it starts in DOS Mode. > > how you started FreeBSD in DOS mode? i would like to do so as i sometimes > need to run DOS programs, but i have to boot DOS or use slow dosbox. > > tell me - it's interesting. > _______________________________________________ Pretty sure he meant virtual terminal mode, where all you get is command prompts. There is no DOS mode, but there is a port; emulators/bochs that one can install DOS into. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 11:37:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6527106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1297D8FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so77881bwz.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qycqeAoWtKOuBCVL/XWKrM9T8u2+8xCpVqyNeKUpgrY=; b=pBcqUbRkCRaf8x8MnKWv+SD9OWuM+tWXrRTm3zt9ZAPLteteyGMqQ+oRAM01ceVj3H hmDlxXVH7OZrdH0eAYoYSweRF0GXjbHp54PU+vXdYxHtKKaUcw+392pIz5lp+jyupJ7o p/W/0V9BS9zWXrWMJaPNmJfhvYMxrNZvcnArw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=mus2x9iKNtSJO6ir5/DbYC5Z1hbmj4uFpxtqEzwga/ry6714gjSUfD0JW/s3ViVbgs sgfh4JlHcGQMtznSSKDVatDM0NWzRukY9NJdD4NSa8s8XwTG6Wvq+aVxSKr/xeIc1MTa xZmYWnZyLXGiATAg6AJClE7wZK5sP24u6wX/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.223.2 with SMTP id a2mr492673mur.88.1239190633975; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:37:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090408124952.X34961@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> <20090408085042.GA54417@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090408124952.X34961@gwdu60.gwdg.de> From: Valentin Bud Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:36:58 +0200 Message-ID: <139b44430904080436j7fa08015u1d77c38c51e2583a@mail.gmail.com> To: Konrad Heuer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:37:16 -0000 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Konrad Heuer wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:41:54AM +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello community, >>> >>> I have built with a micro controller a system of power plugs that >>> can be controlled through the serial port. I have 2 plugs that i >>> can start/stop and check the status of them. This is accomplished >>> by sending different letters (eg. A/W) to start/stop one of the >>> plugs and another set of letter for the other plug and one letter >>> to check the status. >>> >>> Taking into account the fact that my C skills are almost 0 how >>> complicated would be to write a program so I can control that micro >>> controller through the serial port. Or is there some kind of >>> program that can read/write from/to the serial port from the >>> command line. I don't want an interactive program like minicom, >>> just a program that connects and send a command (a letter in my >>> case) to the serial port. >>> >>> Why not minicom (or any other program like it)? My goal is to be >>> able to start/stop the plugs using a web interface. I have tried >>> using minicom and background it but when i log out minicom closes. >>> If minicom is started i can send commands to ttyd0 with echo, but i >>> can't read anything from serial. >>> >>> Now back to my original question, how hard/complicated will it be >>> to write a C program to control the micro controller through the >>> serial port. >>> >>> Of course on FreeBSD :). >>> >>> >> About 10 years ago I adapted a a C program that was used to control a >> board (which basically had a chip and a thermocouple on it) via the >> serial port. >> >> IIRC, the C was relatively simple but if you're a total beginner then >> it would be hard without cribbing code off the 'net. >> >> If you want to learn C then go for it but if you don't you'd be better >> off using one of the scripting languages: perl, python, ruby etc. and >> your development time will be much reduced. >> >> Also they all have facilities for easily converting your program to >> use the CGI so that you can webify the control and I'm sure they all >> have some module for using a serial port (comms/p5-Device-SerialPort >> in ports for perl). >> > > Please find a program of mine attached; it was used to communicate with a > card reader connected via serial port. Maybe it will help you a little bit > although you don't need all the stuff. > > Best regards > > Konrad Heuer > GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de Thanks everybody for the heads up. I don't know (yet) which path i am going to take. I know a little bit of perl so i guess i'll start reading on how can i accomplish my goal with perl. thanks, v -- network warrior since 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 11:40:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD28C106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096F38FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38BeJNM009161; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38BeIJD009158; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:40:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: utisoft@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:40:37 -0000 >> how you started FreeBSD in DOS mode? i would like to do so as i sometimes >> need to run DOS programs, but i have to boot DOS or use slow dosbox. >> >> tell me - it's interesting. >> _______________________________________________ > > Pretty sure he meant virtual terminal mode, where all you get is so he should first learn about unix more. reading FreeBSD handbook is more than enough. It's NOT DOS, and NOT WINDOWS > command prompts. There is no DOS mode, but there is a port; > emulators/bochs that one can install DOS into. and dosbox - a bit faster but still emulation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 11:49:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63901065689 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417E68FC22 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so83647ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wzrdtjUgLtiwr1szBMnYoxKKk5wm5ox16Grwz2Kx0M8=; b=PB1eBZviugJ76aTGvvBoSnWoXYtE0UAE7f9EN9Vl4PVtqCKZ7dqpWPVwPhTYUmV71w O5XjYuByxlLpEnt8mtlUwnSnMgiMuYvbiBuLxjTzsYyo3ZS65yAINm1hJXnHESywQ6nP EbjHo1Bb56ujg0h5kRxEJzXut3C4R8Waz/JDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h3/m8t0BfCpElHxV6Z4MABJixatMbN1WaozGJnHco8NIZ3BQbDXRO1tncuXrmEpUcW 9RuPWgrD9TGtslWmNnIGlLGN93cKEl5R3bqY/RZ+/IqsnhKLaxxk3l/BbeF99y1dV/m4 CkA6YPofBbpUXKv4IbZ4qGWBboovgF5zOmojk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.58.17 with SMTP id g17mr5018872eba.80.1239191375372; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:49:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:49:37 -0000 Quoting from earlier: 2009/4/8 Fernando Apestegu=EDa : > On 4/8/09, Rajeev Sharma wrote: >> Sir, >> =A0 =A0 =A0I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & in= stalled > > FreeBSD is _not_ linux ;) > >> on my PC. =A0But it starts in DOS Mode. > > aka "Console" mode. > >> >> I want to shift to Graphical Mode. > > Once you log in, (use your login name and password), and assuming you > installed some graphical environment, try to type: > > startx > > Cheers > >> >> >> Kindly advice me what to do. >> >> Wojciech wrote: > so he should first learn about unix more. reading FreeBSD handbook is mor= e than enough. Really, this has already been said. Try to read the whole thread rather than the first post. It's much easier to follow emails if you turn off digest mode and just accept each email individually, using a threading client... This also makes misunderstanding and repetition leading to embarrassment less likely. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 12:10:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08881065677 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893E48FC29 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.213]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C98E3171BC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DC942C.7090301@utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:10:20 -0400 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions References: <139b44430904070241j5227d178jd75f6a93057a150a@mail.gmail.com> <20090408085042.GA54417@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090408124952.X34961@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <139b44430904080436j7fa08015u1d77c38c51e2583a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430904080436j7fa08015u1d77c38c51e2583a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: C programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:10:32 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > Thanks everybody for the heads up. I don't know (yet) which path i am going > to take. I know a little bit of perl so i guess i'll start reading on how > can i accomplish my goal with perl. > > thanks, > v > I've been programming for a very long time, and I can tell you that both Perl and C/C++ have done me very well. The centre of gravity keeps shifting in software, but most of the scripting languages, and the libraries they depend on, are written in C. Installing most packages from scratch usually depends on having a C compiler around and knowing how to use it. The fundamental system interfaces in all forms of Unix are written in and for C. There are always jobs out there requiring knowledge of C, especially in embedded programming. I would suggest that you can't go wrong taking the C path, and you would probably do well trying it in Perl too. -Will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 12:11:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A3F106573B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A6B8FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so37377mue.3 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:11:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=oKEHPMzGYsvpS1nB1csXzLs8ieIq8ahzjI++xXpjd0c=; b=tX5IGK0lbEh5P76d1EjzTmlRVvzyhIBLhNgJtfpWMaFXrrpIQrRJvVewvRPT2jTjyH s6eY3IcJYlhbx6eNtKnz0nhsYALWN2+sLYfuMdNiLSzGdi1lvJHvt0BEnLLSSN+C/9yI BJPbJbvIliMpmOY9XiXyVMTnNtVGc2+PjfLwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=av+vG+usU3EYL37+16SLloWFLJ33SdbocfdlUBoXQjVaj971iygXXCbm4h7lMSMrQD TRVqffHyvcgEb1R+x1BVMhfHNRxUZ8eDwl+lD0Nfk/WCoHRP3wpK9KWrogOF9rZxOgRc 8smC3dGx/YoU6X+JIMOvtEKZOv+NqC20Q+SZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.214.13 with SMTP id r13mr507974muq.37.1239192678277; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentin Bud Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:11:03 +0200 Message-ID: <139b44430904080511i5b883e8dm40ead16dd075ffe@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:11:20 -0000 Hello community, I have mysql installed on FreeBSD 7.0 i386. I am using mysqltuner.pl from ports to check for tuning parameters. Now my problem, sort of speak, is that mysqltuner.pl shows the following: [OK] Maximum possible memory usage: 1.6G (53% of installed RAM) So as far as i understand mysql is limited to using max 1.6G of RAM. But top shows different things PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 68083 mysql 18 44 0 2901M 1927M ucond 3 608:36 1.07% mysqld Why is mysql using more memory than showed in mysqltuner. Is mysqltuner inaccurate? Mysql is used for storing fulltext obtained throuhg OCR from different documents. Is there a way to make a chart on how much memory is needed for a given number of pages or documents? thanks, v -- network warrior since 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 12:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E191065673 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9998FC1B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16124 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 12:24:30 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2009 12:24:30 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014285084A; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6DC8F1D5E9; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) To: Steve Bertrand References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:24:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> (Steve Bertrand's message of "Tue\, 07 Apr 2009 19\:13\:43 -0400") Message-ID: <44ocv7miyw.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:24:31 -0000 Steve Bertrand writes: > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private datacentre. > > Can someone recommend a *known good* production quality copy mechanism > that will act like scp, but without the overhead? rsh? nc? > > I recall a thread not too long ago regarding this, but I'd like to have > a simple working example if possible, without getting into detail why > one shouldn't transfer data unencrypted. I haven't hit a case in years where the encryption overhead was actually measurable as a significant issue. Still, anything you can do over ssh can be done just as well over rsh. There's always rcp if you want the same syntax as scp, but if the data consists of a lot of different files, using tar on both ends of a pipe will probably be much faster. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 12:55:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772510656C0 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68E18FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.213]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 636D517106 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DC9EAD.2090300@utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:55:09 -0400 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <139b44430904080511i5b883e8dm40ead16dd075ffe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430904080511i5b883e8dm40ead16dd075ffe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mysql memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:55:18 -0000 I think 'top' is showing the external view of the process and how many pages total of heap have been allocated (under 'RES'). Possibly your tuner program is just showing the size of the cache specifically. -Will Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello community, > > I have mysql installed on FreeBSD 7.0 i386. I am using mysqltuner.pl from > ports > to check for tuning parameters. Now my problem, sort of speak, is that > mysqltuner.pl > shows the following: > [OK] Maximum possible memory usage: 1.6G (53% of installed RAM) > > So as far as i understand mysql is limited to using max 1.6G of RAM. But > top > shows different things > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 68083 mysql 18 44 0 2901M 1927M ucond 3 608:36 > 1.07% mysqld > > Why is mysql using more memory than showed in mysqltuner. Is mysqltuner > inaccurate? > > Mysql is used for storing fulltext obtained throuhg OCR from different > documents. Is there a way > to make a chart on how much memory is needed for a given number of pages or > documents? > > thanks, > v > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 13:44:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E7E106566B; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFF28FC23; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LrY4l-0005OX-48>; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:44:23 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LrY4l-0004XE-2r>; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:44:23 +0200 Message-ID: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:42:56 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:44:25 -0000 Hello, got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does have enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or popping up the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of the ports. I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask for some hints.. Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 13:44:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651FC106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from festin@sakha.net) Received: from mail.sakha.net (mail.sakha.net [80.73.64.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EEB8FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from festin@sakha.net) Received: from [10.160.80.80] (helo=OnoSendai.) by mail.sakha.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrX2T-000EJF-L3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:37:57 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:37:52 +1000 From: Festin Alexander To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090408223752.0fbf4366@OnoSendai.> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904061308n37075058w198ed8959dd0c87a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061203g71f88587n8dc8461a6fb7622c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061234h70bd30bt4dee6f5bd09789c2@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061308n37075058w198ed8959dd0c87a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:44:25 -0000 ÷ Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:08:32 -0400 alexus ÐÉÛÅÔ: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin > wrote: > > All out of ideas. try with a script...maybe, i dnt know. > > > > I understand there is always that way, but I'd like to figure out the > proper way > How about to put some "echo" or "logger" into /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd for tracing script? I use bsnmpd and have no troubles. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 13:55:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF731065740 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from makefile@yeah.net) Received: from m85-55.yeah.net (m85-55.yeah.net [60.191.85.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC64C8FC24 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from makefile@yeah.net) Received: from makefile ( [221.226.210.168] ) by ajax-webmail-app6 (Coremail) ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:55:44 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:55:44 +0800 (CST) From: makefile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3535242.320121239198944166.JavaMail.coremail@yeahapp6.yeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [221.226.210.168] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version XT_Ux_snapshot build 090220(6716.2201.2159) Copyright (c) 2002-2009 www.mailtech.cn yeah X-CM-TRANSID: N1UQrKB7jwbgrNxJUxgXAA--.51795W X-CM-SenderInfo: ppdnvwxlohq5hhdkh0dhw/1tbiBxA+4Ul0srAc7gACsH X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U50xBIdaVrnW8YjxAI6xCIbckI1I0E57IF64kEYxAxMc804V CqF7xvr2I5M4IEnf9ElVAFpTB2q-sK649IAas0WaI_GwCS07vEb7Iv0xC_Jr1lV2xY67kC 6x804xWlV2xY67C26xCjj4IEw4AK0wCS07vE1I0EscIYIxCEI4klw4CSwwCS07vE5I8CrV ACY4xI64kE6c02F40Ex7xfMIAIbVAv7VCjz48v1sIEY20_JwCS07vE4x8a6x804xWlV2xY 6I8E67AF67kF1VAFwI0_Jr0_JrDvcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gbk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Three little question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:56:11 -0000 Every time I run "make fetch-recursive",it fetched all the dependence packages.Not only the package I need to compile. For example,in the /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel,I run "make fetch-recursive",it will download glib,but I alreaday have glib installed.Is there another command can solve my problem? I installed gnome2-lite,but I don't think it is small enough.I don't need "file-roller","epiphany","totem"...How should I do?Gnome2-lite depend on them. I am installing gnome2-lite under 7.2-BETA1 now.When compiling ghostscript-8.64,an error comes. gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.64] Error 1 How to solve this?I can not install gnome2-lite,then I can not get into the X environment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 14:06:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D51065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90448FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrYQ7-00028N-5o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:06:27 -0700 Message-ID: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com Subject: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:06:28 -0000 Hi guys, I'd like to use geli to whole disk encrypt a FreeBSD 7.1 laptop I already have setup. The laptop is up and working fine and I don't want to screw it up. It have the default partition layout. I've already used geli to encrypt the swap partition. The default partitioning at install creates / /tmp /usr and /var. I thought I would start with /tmp as I should be able to fix that if I mess up. Some questions... 1. Will each partition have to be mounted with a password? 2. What's the most straight-forward way to go about this without screwing up? I already have the eli module loaded in the /boot/loader.conf so I won't need to re-compile, etc. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/geli-on-exisitng-laptop-tp22951183p22951183.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 14:18:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A4E106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D938FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so345431gxk.19 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:18:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U1x6XUuOI8OJGZeypAbJpSOCbQbgzX8StREw6pK7ci0=; b=p6PVz7yVz1dDbuGbbb0K+LcfFU+9bAZtgAYnO6m80qHuQC5iZpYm8gtE14BgQpG3NF oC3w6I6XCXPdBI7HRJrPBBCgO0+0+bbk65x4sOZMwuMa0+T5/2NCBHricRrsZqIMaPi7 R+AHyXssW6zDMNr6G6xUgbRWxIF4ZXYzkeWqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DsqyRCqBg4y03XnM6F7gisOYBN+TxQIx0/9vm83NF2Uam2kqc4JdqXVKKwUK6Q7ZPr WRWc+4ZHxX+3omDM+KcMZ6dp0xkRXIxbSBUf2wBKs5cCaqCDNPpa+SW9FK5BA29SoCs5 mwhlavLdzL5aVnGRe3lHT8cm8MtNr8DdoHwyI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.47.7 with SMTP id z7mr2574718ybj.104.1239200294017; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090408223752.0fbf4366@OnoSendai.> References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061234h70bd30bt4dee6f5bd09789c2@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061308n37075058w198ed8959dd0c87a@mail.gmail.com> <20090408223752.0fbf4366@OnoSendai.> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:18:13 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0904080718g7a6657ebv5129d307bdb58458@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Festin Alexander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:18:17 -0000 2009/4/8 Festin Alexander : > =D0=92 Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:08:32 -0400 > alexus =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin >> wrote: >> > All out of ideas. try with a script...maybe, i dnt know. >> > >> >> I understand there is always that way, but I'd like to figure out the >> proper way >> > > How about to put some "echo" or "logger" into /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd for > tracing script? > > I use bsnmpd and have no troubles. have you used it inside of jail? or in host environment? as i mentioned earlier it works fine in host, but not in jail... > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:07:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA278106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B04A8FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38F6xb0078570; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:07:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n38F6xJ0078569; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:06:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:06:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904081506.n38F6xJ0078569@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@ibctech.ca In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:07:23 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@ibctech.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:07:26 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > > I'm looking for a method to perform this copy task without the overhead > of encryption for infrequent, high-volume transfers (hundreds to > thousands of GB). > > The data will be transferred server-to-server within a private datacentre. There are quite a lot of ways to do that. You could NFS-export then files and then use a tool to copy them on the other box locally (tar, cpio, cpdup, whatever). You could run an FTP server and then use one of the various FTP mirror tools to copy the files (e.g. ports/ftp/omi). You could use plain old rcp. You could apply this (trivial) patch that adds support for cipher "none" in ssh and scp: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/patches/openssh-cipher-none The advantage of using scp (with "-c none") is that you can use all of the ssh features, such as key authentication, server aliases (via ~/.ssh/config) etc. You can also use other file copy tools (such as cpdup) that can be tunneled through ssh. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "IRIX is about as stable as a one-legged drunk with hypothermia in a four-hundred mile per hour wind, balancing on a banana peel on a greased cookie sheet -- when someone throws him an elephant with bad breath and a worse temper." -- Ralf Hildebrandt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:22:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2155E106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF128FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38FLvS2079073; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:22:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n38FLv9u079072; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:21:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:21:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904081521.n38FLv9u079072@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidcollins001@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140904071739m41ae936es9a022c97e4f66630@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:22:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:22:23 -0000 David Collins wrote: > viper:~$ sudo powerd > powerd: lookup freq: No such file or directory > > I also have the following > > viper:~$ sysctl dev.cpu > dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU_ > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% > dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 > dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% Frequency control is not supported in your case. You must have dev.cpu.0.freq and so on. What kind of processor do you have? Does it support "powernow", "cool'n'quiet" or similar features? Also, make sure that you have "device cpufreq" in your kernel configuration. If you don't have it, try to load the module: kldload cpufreq Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd It's trivial to make fun of Microsoft products, but it takes a real man to make them work, and a God to make them do anything useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:31:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0899B106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA58FC1A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38FVI1l009698; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:31:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38FVH7M009695; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:31:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:31:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: References: <49DBDE27.4010300@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Copying files without scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:31:36 -0000 > > To copy data from one server, I normally (always) use scp. > man rcp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:37:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4062D106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D58FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so199073ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q/ftXxVriep+SoXSybiDo+3YXRp2BXNeVXBUhwRjq8o=; b=OIokIoFQEpWmbu5a4z0ja3pfa1tIjEO8GLo0NlMUcCMdNX5ZOGeNVHwzxk1whgD860 bJvWKvtWdLZDkleyGGwUuvECk2l8PpKBIRo/7AkIHbDlroH9WEY8XfQJdOoTGdrMVwOi FE55JSWQtkRPH6LLvJ6TRuzB/4x2TNGF2i6kU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qQvPAiq0EOZjPU3+IAECqVEVFXjWHh9tZr3XC1DMDRBwT3mbCP7abkB0ZyoMIjmhlC 1XIxlqF3tv97ZNjulEyWKCNWkMhMH/dVkYkOzV8U9fUqaIKuX+GLyFm4VsAqiZk/QMqJ hNPyyKaxGfBWn8vLORg/49xBQ76n/r9NdSpwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.111.17 with SMTP id j17mr5234568ebc.13.1239205055862; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904081521.n38FLv9u079072@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <1b30fd140904071739m41ae936es9a022c97e4f66630@mail.gmail.com> <200904081521.n38FLv9u079072@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:37:35 +0100 Message-ID: <1b30fd140904080837h2aa48acema46be89866d7a617@mail.gmail.com> From: David Collins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, davidcollins001@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:37:37 -0000 > Frequency control is not supported in your case. You must > have dev.cpu.0.freq and so on. What kind of processor do > you have? Does it support "powernow", "cool'n'quiet" or > similar features? CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (501.14-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff > Also, make sure that you have "device cpufreq" > kernel configuration. If you don't have it, try to load > the module: kldload cpufreq I have device cpufreq in the kernel conf and I loaded/unloaded it separately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615E31065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B858FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38Fkbln080399; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n38Fkbnc080398; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:46:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:46:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904081546.n38Fkbnc080398@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidcollins001@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140904080837h2aa48acema46be89866d7a617@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:47:00 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:47:02 -0000 David Collins wrote: > > Frequency control is not supported in your case. You must > > have dev.cpu.0.freq and so on. What kind of processor do > > you have? Does it support "powernow", "cool'n'quiet" or > > similar features? > > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (501.14-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x383fbff I'm afraid this one does not support CPU frequency control. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I invented Ctrl-Alt-Delete, but Bill Gates made it famous." -- David Bradley, original IBM PC design team From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:53:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC154106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BFA8FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:65518 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lra5H-0006UR-6Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:53:06 +0200 Received: (qmail 27481 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 17:53:01 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 8 Apr 2009 17:53:01 +0200 Received: (qmail 71755 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Apr 2009 17:53:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:53:01 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: David Collins Message-ID: <20090408155301.GA71743@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <1b30fd140904071739m41ae936es9a022c97e4f66630@mail.gmail.com> <200904081521.n38FLv9u079072@lurza.secnetix.de> <1b30fd140904080837h2aa48acema46be89866d7a617@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140904080837h2aa48acema46be89866d7a617@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Lra5H-0006UR-6Q. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Lra5H-0006UR-6Q d71ce596daa4899517128702f520a1a9 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:53:18 -0000 On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:37:35PM +0100, David Collins wrote: > > Frequency control is not supported in your case. You must > > have dev.cpu.0.freq and so on. What kind of processor do > > you have? Does it support "powernow", "cool'n'quiet" or > > similar features? > > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (501.14-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x383fbff AFAIK that processor does not support changing frequency or voltage on the fly. You will not be able to get powerd to do anything useful with that CPU. > > > > Also, make sure that you have "device cpufreq" > > kernel configuration. If you don't have it, try to load > > the module: kldload cpufreq > > I have device cpufreq in the kernel conf and I loaded/unloaded it separately. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:58:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12CC1065672 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8208FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so210721ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=FzrTxc02Sb3KeBaQjwQndGQHRBzVzmQtPY3n0OfoeEY=; b=Jv5kGP4DKtWKGybGT4doaYFm46rkG5AJZbZRpnkiVrTzMf276rgMrVzZ7HAkbHGygV nBeRjmlr0cNXkINl0vsNh5Su2Iu/WVSLeo8DmYtu9JaHN0Ah4S9ep2b2chEpl0kfaC3a p6FjOAKnSro5Wx9n3uAs8XPXTE9gxDGQysy4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=J5EifD1rgDU26K6zxWzSqjm6pxeR8+ERekuj/m9Jk9kg+vd5SImDqa5q/T2grYydSK pzcLB13Rt6fUhUdyD8JyNKFPayytQ542dhMsBGp+JGl2Ar5uaYPDpuHbBCQRM+OctFQK SzQIT5O8DJr5dTVqm4aYH7ojXi09N3yL0YdMo= Received: by 10.216.11.67 with SMTP id 45mr363205wew.53.1239206325988; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm4815496gve.5.2009.04.08.08.58.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0300 To: "Erik Trulsson" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1b30fd140904071739m41ae936es9a022c97e4f66630@mail.gmail.com> <200904081521.n38FLv9u079072@lurza.secnetix.de> <1b30fd140904080837h2aa48acema46be89866d7a617@mail.gmail.com> <20090408155301.GA71743@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090408155301.GA71743@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: powerd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:58:48 -0000 > AFAIK that processor does not support changing frequency or voltage on > the fly. Your right, I also had one of those CPU. Only thig you can do is OC from BIOS. I managed to OC it at a 566 MHz stable rate; also managed to have a near 600 MHz (589 MHz) experience but was unstable as hell. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 16:24:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19414106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from postfix_amaru@yahoo.com) Received: from web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.12.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6AE18FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from postfix_amaru@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25417 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2009 15:57:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239206272; bh=h/Fn2zluGjtfd4DTSZXIRDslSILSltKoAR/gUAdh8iA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UkPklry1w1QDmfpg3AQXgbo+hfNAEoUfMo+tp0DNjKSn6oKVt2EQSpV17IW+qXi3uqsQz+nmFlhwJ3kAcKW7rbujOT4Hh2wW4iTV/IwbQvQq684pSEQIIjj+m1VsVrfFqQWMaRlvOOOj45z6FQNqjHF6Hov2VbWV2UwLGhZkw3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cx9EydnJHjZkBQoLGrUSe91tkD0nnhIPWapl0lDy+m3guIcv1FeC9EihMgMVHjgufCvMzgQLRFbqnCi2V/21rqLRDd/27mHTZC/E3rzMhihaXT68sKLoRhkYqFabxtzhbuHom5A84BqilnntRuZKZNz2cLoKEzL7QPIUhr6mZMU=; Message-ID: <400467.24717.qm@web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: htuIz34VM1m5u4KJvj9AK.CppDn1ttlO.M5x0vNxO6Z5py7ZTwCs74JLeqSPQpLdWSp5i4qw_qTtEsmVitb2pZYwVUbpiZAo7qNihxL5zY1hGHA2ed_44.I3.KRxXwZ0DCPeRiA7EATT2nmqytYXUdVeDaLCIl.An.Bnlr_uqUjS1cd_uFog1VFCKo7R7lLGxZNICExqXrs1YSIDWR8CUd3AD1UqGcwz6OHAKvh_.oJfLBitggDSOPs- Received: from [134.29.200.234] by web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:57:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Amaru Netapshaak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ZFS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: postfix_amaru@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:24:33 -0000 Hello, I am interested in using something like ZFS for its distributed nature. I r= un a file server with samba acting as a PDC. I also run a second server as a BDC.=A0 What I = would like is a method for keeping both servers "shared data" drives in sync when= both the PDC and BDC are running.=20 I am currently doing an incremental update twice daily to the BDC using rsy= nc over SSH.=A0 It works, but its just not good enough.. if the PDC goes down, anyt= hing created or altered after midnight or so, isnt propagated to the BDC.=20 I understand I can use ZFS to accomplish this easily.. but from what I've r= ead, you still need to manually push updates to the backup server over ssh via cron.=A0 So= I would still have windows of time where the file systems would not be in sync..=A0 am I = heading in the wrong direction here? I am beginning to think I am..=20 I've been afraid of NFS for some time.. remembering back to the days when i= t was just not safe to use NFS.=A0 I may have carried that fear on irrationally.. is N= FS a viable=20 solution to my problem these days?=A0=20 Thanks for the advice! +-+ AMARU =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 16:36:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C86106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from lmailproxy04.edpnet.net (lmailproxy04.edpnet.net [212.71.1.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C248FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([77.109.107.220]) by lmailproxy04.edpnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n38Ga7Bi020022; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:36:07 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: postfix_amaru@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <400467.24717.qm@web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <400467.24717.qm@web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:35:56 +0200 Message-Id: <1239208556.998.0.camel@rivendell.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on lmailproxy04.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_80,RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on lmailproxy04.edpnet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:36:10 -0000 On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 08:57 -0700, Amaru Netapshaak wrote: > Hello, > > I am interested in using something like ZFS for its distributed nature. I run a file server > with samba acting as a PDC. I also run a second server as a BDC. What I would > like is a method for keeping both servers "shared data" drives in sync when both the > PDC and BDC are running. > > I am currently doing an incremental update twice daily to the BDC using rsync over > SSH. It works, but its just not good enough.. if the PDC goes down, anything created > or altered after midnight or so, isnt propagated to the BDC. > > I understand I can use ZFS to accomplish this easily.. but from what I've read, you still > need to manually push updates to the backup server over ssh via cron. So I would still > have windows of time where the file systems would not be in sync.. am I heading in the > wrong direction here? I am beginning to think I am.. > > I've been afraid of NFS for some time.. remembering back to the days when it was just > not safe to use NFS. I may have carried that fear on irrationally.. is NFS a viable > solution to my problem these days? > > Thanks for the advice! > you could use ggated/ggatec together with gmirror > +-+ AMARU > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:11:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393C106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1338FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so248200ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jhRpRFDdpg2S+CyD7UMB1lt9NgUKJ93A3wpM2GQ+JC0=; b=OUCaXj9wd9RBTr5MM6ij/Y5oTjeRcAZy39LhY44QIezUjn86U8uJEXG00mZ3T+4vrP d23+GuSWAx218IdOp26T/mp9bGcbEdWNHenp0aDbapZp1G3t2K40mx6sqDSe4phI2GKR cXRpK1mZlTqAO+0IEvmYyGpDI0yAh4AjAqGkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e2eGpLtHP5jOjNFGH6MEBlPwgMAq55t7mQUbJ2a8Z6RYJCGjasI3bPPl1E0G0lMxCB F5lIQp39F3eUKfH7Zfl1K/zGImOQfEMlHWMh7Fhrca7XVhtJyNhjXArd2ZFGHqnmMd5d Cq4k+pgBmDpoB+yLbMG+wgwm5zdnV/13aV7yI= Received: by 10.216.73.193 with SMTP id v43mr372760wed.157.1239210704515; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm5079799gve.14.2009.04.08.10.11.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:11:40 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090408181140.180987c2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <3535242.320121239198944166.JavaMail.coremail@yeahapp6.yeah.net> References: <3535242.320121239198944166.JavaMail.coremail@yeahapp6.yeah.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Three little question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:11:46 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:55:44 +0800 (CST) makefile wrote: > > Every time I run "make fetch-recursive",it fetched all the dependence > packages.Not only the package I need to compile. For example,in > the /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel,I run "make > fetch-recursive",it will download glib,but I alreaday have glib > installed.Is there another command can solve my problem? Then leave off the "-recursive part", although actually the targets you really need are checksum[-recursive] not fetch[-recursive]. It's good practice to leave the files in the distfile directory and clean it with portsclean -D, then you don't have to download them again. Ports often need to be rebuilt with the same distfile. > I installed gnome2-lite,but I don't think it is small enough.I don't > need "file-roller","epiphany","totem"...How should I do?Gnome2-lite > depend on them. gnome2-lite is just a metaport, so you could just delete it and install just the ports you want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:12:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68DE1065679 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E1E8FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so193080rvb.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=6pk7+ak8Mej9NqL/DlxqVGm7erwxeUEu1bhU+lTdTk8=; b=I28k9b7Hb7WxcwQZ6KkhphSGgtlE8Y3jrYqbrFb6M7eif3fvDMoYECjPAE75+i+H6o BauGJvzkwzwUsjpDwHlthHvffu/qy4SOzuxLaLPDhdaqpaT0eNwMT7uWVkniIaBzcFlT JC9V0pQj5faJ3dGw3nuTNF4bAy+yZYRzJ6YU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=LHB0HwSYA6mTl/xQTH4JWuysBgvFzq0f9V6n5bJX0WnNJHXmpHBzBoQVSzYexdTYsW crTzuS+/0kTpKirVSOWuHNaJ8l0XkrsA6Z1ozpX7Wz0ZSiY9LtbeWQkGnysXZt2T8/b0 7f2UkHJy5IaZ5LuNdUt+BdL3HrDtncriNbuRM= Received: by 10.140.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr609510rvf.183.1239210771177; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev.null (153-12-66-208.dsl.cust.wirelessbeehive.com [208.66.12.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm25967034rvf.20.2009.04.08.10.12.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dev.null (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2F61572; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12:48 -0600 From: Geoff Fritz To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090408171248.GA64991@dev.null> References: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:12:53 -0000 On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 07:06:27AM -0700, new_guy wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I'd like to use geli to whole disk encrypt a FreeBSD 7.1 laptop I already > have setup. The laptop is up and working fine and I don't want to screw it > up. It have the default partition layout. I've already used geli to encrypt > the swap partition. > > The default partitioning at install creates / /tmp /usr and /var. I thought > I would start with /tmp as I should be able to fix that if I mess up. > > Some questions... > > 1. Will each partition have to be mounted with a password? If you plan on converting existing partitions to geli-backed, then each one will require its own initialization. It's up to you on whether or not you wish to use the same password/keyfile -- or different ones -- for each. I personally experiment with geli all the time, and for convenience, I have my primary drive prompt for a passord at boot time. Under my encrypted drive, I use key files without password to mount other devices. >From my rc.conf file: geli_devices="ad3" geli_ad3_flags="-p -k /etc/geli/ad3.key" geli_ad3_autodetach="NO" (then the appropriate entry for ad3.eli in my fstab) This would probably be unnacceptable to those who wear tin-foil hats and think the NSA is out to get them, but it sure beats typing in a high-entropy password for each and every device/partition in your system. One potential gotchya: If you your primary device gets hosed (hardware failure, lost password, corruption), then you won't be able to access the other devices since you can't get access to your keys. I *strongly* suggest that you back up your key file(s) -- I keep 2, one on the USB stick that I use to boot my machine, and one on a webmail account (both gpg-encrypted, of course). Don't forget to encrypt swap (described in the handbook, I think). > 2. What's the most straight-forward way to go about this without screwing > up? For someone new to this, it would be far easier to start from scratch. However, in your case, I suggest that you free up a partition to start with (/tmp comes to mind here). Experiment with a few "geli init" incantations in order to get it to prompt for a password at boot time, and then mount the device. Mount it under something like /root2 or /newroot. Then, copy your entire content of / over to the new mountpoint (use tar or rsync, and don't forget to exclude other devices). Once you have that mounting at boot and synced up, you can change the / entry in your current /etc/fstab (make sure the new fstab is correct for the new mounts, too). You system will start booting, and you'll be prompted for a password to unlock the new encrypted device. Then, it'll mount / (the new encrytped device), and once that happens, the old / will be essentially ignored since the new one will be mounted over it, so the new fstab and directory structure will assume control. Once that is working, you can migrate other partitions over, one at a time, until all required devices are encrypted. If you don't want to be prompted for passwords for these other devices, you should use keys instead of passwords and use the rc.conf method I mentioned above. Personally, I'd add a 2nd drive, encrypt it wholesale (ad0.eli), then partition that device in whatever way you wish (/dev/ad0.elia, /dev/ad0.elib, etc. by way of "bsdlabel -w ad0.eli ; bsdlabel -e ad0.eli"). Then mount those partitions under a /newroot tree, then rsync your entire filesystem tree over to that, then switch your fstab to point to the new root. (again, don't forget to correctly edit the *new* fstab after you sync, or you'l be hating life as you try to fix the mess from the boot loader prompt or a recovery disk). Moving everything back to your newly-encrypted old drive will be more difficult. I cut my geli teeth on the following docs: http://nullpointer.dk/2007/06/05/encrypting-a-freebsd-system-using-geli/ http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/fahrplan/attachments/586-paper_Complete_Hard_Disk_Encryption.pdf There appear to be quite a few more decent tutorials online these days. Just google "freebsd geli encryption". The good news is that many of the methods used for crypto (loading modules from /boot/loader.conf) can be applied to things having gjournal or ZFS running on your root device. In fact, I've run ZFS over geli, and I currently use gjournal over geli. Both work very well. Good luck. -- Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:17:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82184106567C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8748FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-108-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.108.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CBB8091; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:17:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n38HHew5001531; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:17:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:17:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fernando =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= Message-Id: <20090408191740.7769beaa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Rajeev Sharma , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:18:00 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:19:26 +0200, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > FreeBSD is _not_ linux ;) You're right. A german computer magazine wrote that FreeBSD is the better Linux. :-) > > on my PC. But it starts in DOS Mode. >=20 > aka "Console" mode. There is no "DOS mode" in FreeBSD. "Console mode" is correct, as well as "text mode" or even "terminal mode" (last one not used very often). > Once you log in, (use your login name and password), and assuming you > installed some graphical environment, try to type: >=20 > startx Or follow the handbook according to how to install KDE or Gnome which provide the usual means for a full-featured graphical environment. (At this point, I can really recommend reading FreeBSD's excellent documentation in the handbook and in its FAQ, to be found on the main web site.) --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:23:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4151065697 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710038FC27 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-108-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.108.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0573C3ED12; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n38HNPfu001551; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090408192324.dcbae34a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:23:43 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:40:18 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > so he should first learn about unix more. At least to avoid misunderstandings due to wrong terminology. "We UNIX guys" are usually smart enough to know what "DOS mode" refers to, but without correction such a behaviour (accepting it without mentioning that it's plain wrong) will stengthen the belief that there's a "DOS mode" in FreeBSD, or that every text mode interface is called "DOS mode". "When I switched on my modem, it only resets in TSO mode. I want CDE mode, what should I do?" :-) Depending on what environment some user comes from, the terminology chosen may vary. Some words are more advanced than others, but still wrong. > reading FreeBSD handbook is more > than enough. I agree, FreeBSD's excellent documentation gives a very good step-by-step introduction about how to solve this particula problem (and others, too). It isn't that hard to find. > It's NOT DOS, and NOT WINDOWS I'm glad it's not. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:24:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EE31065753 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0BE8FC34 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so197813rvb.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=jHDf5ETjpxIR2VPoX2u/lEjGVy9vq4G4/xoQcc03WjU=; b=v2eiJSwIhGe5o4S6tkTHgUONty4wnKOZaweGVpUkjSo3tc6AiqYc8VqFC0OYe00CMy RRvyVmrA7yU3Ofwj73gn4KY80r2cGg5aHbQphNovmwrgaum87vnLaKuLLwp8j9UljrPO zatGHZLbiKHZFK6eVAwSDQYFShLrwdzm2ISAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=n5izpTZNxy/ggXZQM/wKMNvA4Wypi3vIq4ztFDFW7CjadZFS+1IZXJ9fAx60gxb9IH FBt0nsKDwNwykrv4eZia+3CkiUPhAIXpfXwrOtle5aM06M94L4XU9oo/OC/yppesk44/ O4PsM0yPjco3LQleF6wHKGIjxKUiNZ5IwYXE4= Received: by 10.142.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr524357wfw.328.1239211443976; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev.null (153-12-66-208.dsl.cust.wirelessbeehive.com [208.66.12.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm212185rvb.5.2009.04.08.10.24.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dev.null (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3AC133; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:24:01 -0600 From: Geoff Fritz To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090408172401.GA76244@dev.null> References: <13D52068-D184-42D9-AE6C-F095C1283975@identry.com> <3A934D4A-1864-401C-8CD8-86B37EB2B183@identry.com> <20090407204242.GD62574@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <14CAA4F0-E027-4C28-B53D-A781E8F8CF68@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14CAA4F0-E027-4C28-B53D-A781E8F8CF68@identry.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: low-level format before install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:24:06 -0000 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 05:41:27PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > Thanks for all the tips. At least I have something to start with. > > The guys in the data center reinstalled FreeBSD (the filesystem was > totally corrupted again), and then ran what they called "SMART test", > which might be smartctl, and said the hard drives look good. > > I am now able to get back in. > > So the system ran fine until I put a load on it with the database > (many transactions a second). This corrupted the file system again. > > So I guess I need to load it enough to produce error messages > (hopefully) but not enough to destroy the file system again. I've had issues with a few hosted servers, and more often than not, it was a bad PSU on the server and/or rack. Assuming that you can't get these folks to run a good hardware diag for you, there are a few things you can do. You can beat up the RAM/cpu with various burn-in programs (I like benchmarks/stream for its simplicity -- you'll need to "make extract", customize, then ,"make install" for your own memory size). You can thrash the disks pretty well with either dd or "badblocks" from sysutils/e2fsprogs, both can be non-destructive. -- Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:27:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF52106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799348FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38HRdXY021724; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:27:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n38HRdXY021724 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1239211661; bh=+/LUTiOSVSun1mRQy04eLNKk6lZJNlLJFbjcZIh8A00=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49DCDE85.2070204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2008=20Apr=202009=2018:27:33=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090321)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20new_guy=20|CC:=20freebsd-que stions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20geli=20on=20exisitng=20laptop| References:=20<22951183.post@talk.nabble.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<2295 1183.post@talk.nabble.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Ty pe:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protoco l=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"----------- -enig7FCE5CF9CFBFC5373B191427"; b=NRc++ii2yWhFja1xqTrafM8s35etOKdiaevFV5uYS7qiX95431p+m57p2W/sBdEsr WYO1CE6kP3aqNj6UVFCNc0G0k9tRK5OJ3LM1Z+/yC1VezNhhKUa5xTszY18Lb8BJVN LxA5Jk++7xk7ihNN0VNnKNm7APbiq6b8V6p3n+qg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49DCDE85.2070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:27:33 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: new_guy References: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7FCE5CF9CFBFC5373B191427" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:27:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7FCE5CF9CFBFC5373B191427 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable new_guy wrote: > Hi guys, >=20 > I'd like to use geli to whole disk encrypt a FreeBSD 7.1 laptop I alrea= dy > have setup. The laptop is up and working fine and I don't want to screw= it > up. It have the default partition layout. I've already used geli to enc= rypt > the swap partition.=20 >=20 > The default partitioning at install creates / /tmp /usr and /var. I tho= ught > I would start with /tmp as I should be able to fix that if I mess up.=20 >=20 > Some questions... >=20 > 1. Will each partition have to be mounted with a password? > 2. What's the most straight-forward way to go about this without screwi= ng > up? >=20 > I already have the eli module loaded in the /boot/loader.conf so I won'= t > need to re-compile, etc. >=20 To convert a partition to geli requires you to wipe out all the contents,= scribble over the partition with random data to get rid of any remnants o= f the unencrypted content, set up the encryption keys and then rebuild the = file system and recover the data from backup. Yes, you will need to supply some sort of secret value to retrieve the=20 encrypted disk contents. This is usually configured to mean typing in a passphrase at the time the partition is mounted, although it is also poss= ible to store crypto keys on a removable medium such as USB key -- you don't = necessarily have to use a pass phrase in that case, although it's a good = idea for the most effective security. Once the partition is mounted, you shou= ld be able to take the key out and put it in a safe place and still keep runnin= g. Depending on your requirements you can encrypt the whole drive -- which w= hile highly secure requires you to have crypto keys etc. on a removable medium= and is a little tricky to get working properly -- or you can create a small unencrypted partition which should contain the kernel and necessary crypt= o bits (ie. the contents of /boot at a minimum) and then encrypt things partitio= n by partition. You will have to type in a pass phrase to mount each dif= ferent encrypted partition -- to prevent this becoming too onerous, consider usi= ng a 'one big partition' layout. Also note that you should encrypt the swap partition, or someone coming i= nto possession of the laptop may be trivially able to recover secret data fro= m it: this is pretty automated and can be achieved by simply editing /etc/fstab= to change the mount device to eg. /dev/ad0s1b.eli and rebooting -- an epheme= ral key is used, so no typing passphrases is required in this instance. Sett= ing up a swap-backed tmpmfs will then then give you an encrypted /tmp too. 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Hartmann" Message-ID: <20090408173319.GA2370@free.bsd.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Laine , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:33:24 -0000 On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:42:56PM +0000, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello, > got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates > (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does have > enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or popping up > the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, > I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of the ports. > > I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask for > some hints.. > > Regards, > Oliver It is unlikely your case, but I've had similar issues with firefox on my laptop with intel video under 7.2-PRERELEASE. Setting video driver option "AccelMethod" to old XAA mode in xorg.conf helped a lot. -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:40:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5725E1065672 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C632D8FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n38HeRA3099623; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CFE8DBAA3; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:40:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090408174027.GB97995@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:40:30 -0000 --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 07:06:27AM -0700, new_guy wrote: >=20 > Hi guys, >=20 > I'd like to use geli to whole disk encrypt a FreeBSD 7.1 laptop I already > have setup. The laptop is up and working fine and I don't want to screw it > up. It have the default partition layout. I've already used geli to encry= pt > the swap partition.=20 >=20 > The default partitioning at install creates / /tmp /usr and /var. I thoug= ht > I would start with /tmp as I should be able to fix that if I mess up.=20 >=20 > Some questions... >=20 > 1. Will each partition have to be mounted with a password? You can use a password, a file containing a key or both. See geli(8). The security of an encrypted partition relying solely on a key =66rom another partition is qeustionable at least. > 2. What's the most straight-forward way to go about this without screwing > up? You cannot encrypt the whole disk. You'll need an unencrypted /boot partition to read the kernel from, and unencrypted boot sector. Furthermore, you cannot encrypt a partition in place. You'll have to move the data somewhere else, unmount the partition, encrypt it, newfs it, attach and mount the encrypted partition and restore the data Personally, I think there is little value or security in encrypting / and /usr. There is really nothing secret there. One could even argue that the well-known content of / might /usr might facilitate known plaintext attacks! The only possible reason is to inconvenience a thief, but one might argue that putting anything but windows on it accomplishes that quite nicely. :-) And if your laptop is not a powerhouse, using encryption is going to eat CPU cycles. My advice would be to put /home (where _your_ data resides) on a seperate partition and encrypt only that partition, with a password. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknc4YsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUAUACfbig/+1/DmjrkSdMzqjYV2tBT z6UAniZRnBlWVxMq/gzxi+q5YxJIFPhV =Q0tv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:46:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395E7106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF588FC1A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so207234rvb.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:46:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BcXAkAOeIWR4Y0KZoL+JQZpnPlbSWoF3bqPYBjxtEnM=; b=w5vZl/M27NsVD5TdXi6Hu6ExWlmlWwsWsfDpY73Nt/s5J9IG7s/jApxrFXHWTYQHib g4MlqmSMdvhcS/dwOItTR823Dwv3uuYl5WnaF/9jGB+afZksMV8M5h9zKUzcjuCfGXTR tF3BhwAouh91PRNWCFUMBvlqyDBDr7UVEeyFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iqaC6/tEsHd0fjSfJUzUIX3g/9MOEJQ7sU3IiheJ7hXxXnVUlkZW9lsyMn7Qxvnv6w G4Oa2Y2nEXgOftKcL0L2pJyCya6lXxbhkFfboiTN8hKqklYUXXGWMO4OdSvNXzc/HDhv nte7k7xpmk7PnoBwyEJ8B/Q2oJCl6vN1T378Y= Received: by 10.141.116.17 with SMTP id t17mr618686rvm.268.1239212771649; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm26163383rvb.34.2009.04.08.10.46.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:46:03 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090408184603.0a3540ed@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg and nvidia-driver-173 ABI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:46:12 -0000 I picked-up the most recent xorg update a couple of days ago, and since then X has been failing to start with the binary nvidia driver, and is leaving the following in Xorg.0.log: (EE) NVIDIA(0): This video driver ABI is not supported. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Use the -ignoreABI option to override this check. -ignoreABI doesn't help. I presume that nvidia will eventually fix this for the current driver, but I'm using the legacy driver port x11/nvidia-driver-173. Is there any prospect of the nvidia driver working again on my hardware? If the answer is no, would the nv driver benefit from a switch from i386 to amd64. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 17:48:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E2410657A1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0158FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lrbt1-0004eK-1P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:48:31 -0700 Message-ID: <22956085.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090408174027.GB97995@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com References: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090408174027.GB97995@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:48:32 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > > My advice would be to put /home (where _your_ data resides) on a > seperate partition and encrypt only that partition, with a password. > Thanks to everyone for the advice. I really do appreciate it. I like this tip a lot. Since the default FreeBSD installer puts /home as a link to /usr/home... could I just encrypt /usr and get the same result? I'm thinking this would be the best way. Thanks again for the Great tips! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/geli-on-exisitng-laptop-tp22951183p22956085.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:25:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F81106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868BD8FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LrcSM-0005Kh-So for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:25:02 +0000 Received: from frigga.summersault.com ([12.161.105.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:25:02 +0000 Received: from mark by frigga.summersault.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Stosberg Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:24:52 -0400 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <20090408142452.2ccde62b@summersault.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: frigga.summersault.com X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: news Subject: recovering from a missing package database? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:30:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA04410656C3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8088FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LrcXC-0005Yx-Se for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:30:02 +0000 Received: from frigga.summersault.com ([12.161.105.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:30:02 +0000 Received: from mark by frigga.summersault.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:30:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Stosberg Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:29:32 -0400 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: frigga.summersault.com X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: news Subject: Recovering loss of /var/db/pkg ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:30:04 -0000 I'll just say it plainly: /var/db/pkg is long gone and there is no backup. It was not copied to new a machine. Is there is any hope of being able to use the ports or packages system in a meangingful way again? My sense is that some recovery is possible, but may be prohibitively expensive. Thanks for any tips! Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:33:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C51510656BA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcc@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B767A8FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcc@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 12970 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 18:33:56 -0000 Received: from 84.163.243.154 by www113.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:33:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:33:56 +0200 From: "Peter Cornelius" Message-ID: <20090408183356.142910@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #491680 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/TZj0xAyzTXsAW5UJW313wKMkxYwbeXKmcSlmNmD go6lccYcIpdbMHofo8WILZ00NaVC2is1ViLQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: dYepeucCODB6UsrhdGRMv+k9Ji9SWtL3 X-FuHaFi: 0.7 Subject: getfib? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:34:01 -0000 Dear list, Now, there, we've got setfib(1). Very well. But -- how do I figure out the FIB associated with a running process? Thanks, Peter. --- [1] setfib(1), cf. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=setfib&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8-current -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 19:01:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42FA106566B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A188FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n38ILsWL017428 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:22:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E069A5FEDE for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B412A5FD56 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:53 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:17 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sorta newb help compiling samba Thread-Index: Acm4ds8e/bAwmfQNS0+Yujuc65juEA== From: "Gary Gatten" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2009 18:21:53.0491 (UTC) FILETIME=[E46F2230:01C9B876] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:01:29 -0000 Good afternoon, =20 I've been playing with various flavors of *nix off and on for almost twenty years, but not doing much development the make process often causes me issues - as is the case with samba. =20 I'm running freebsd 6.0. I've tried installing three different versions of samba from ports and none of them complete. I downloaded the 3.3.3 port and tried to make it, but it fails as well with the error below: =20 libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `krb5_set_real_time': libsmb/clikrb5.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type libsmb/clikrb5.c:133: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type The following command failed: cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -I./popt -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -fPIC -DPIC -c libsmb/clikrb5.c -o libsmb/clikrb5.o gmake: *** [libsmb/clikrb5.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. =20 I also search for a package but could not find. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Trying to integrate FreeRADIUS with AD and I'm kinda stuck. =20 Thanks in advance! =20 Gary =20
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 19:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D79106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04278FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so303213ewy.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zS995xO5DR/S8kIEnLWLbZTelSv/8T5hXHs16prUnBQ=; b=CbPuPmohJlz9ZenQl5enWhGtvfFU3vlQQ6LG4HHZ5R3Fl7fdbX2q6acNIlTBIBzzGX P2+85LgMvlsh8xGFyoF7BgXk3VrzyndYfZ86lk5a+o1AuDOukIaaHO9/OfG19w7OTTcn DkFP6i0EZdAPHfqIAXMB+q39SvpvaeUw+vrXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QPF2gWf/6OzsiLZfOygfmdegfzHykVBn42mevxmqvtLiwL2MPJCQaXR9zzAgXMaIYF zfM9LpCPgp7xP68sPtK4woNPLKhfkIvUZ/0WPxGdIL1RKPAJfS1T9ZLNI8H1my2BtrpQ q29/zHw3JBgrfPdV0JhiKKhLNF61YgEyguLl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.18.205 with SMTP id l55mr399247wel.194.1239218640576; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:24:00 -0400 Message-ID: <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Jonathan McKeown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:24:02 -0000 On 4/8/09, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 23:35:03 Bob Johnson wrote: >> On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> > Hi all >> >> [...] >> >> > My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. Make >> > that ports tree available as part of this package system and compile a >> > typical desktop set of ports, particularly choosing ones which are large >> > or have many dependencies. When it is all complete release it and start >> > again. Surely quite a wide selection of desktops, wm's and apps could be >> > compiled in a couple of weeks? >> >> How is it an improvement over the existing tools? I must be missing >> something, because it sounds to me like you are merely asking that >> there be more ports made available as packages than are now offered. > > I think what you're missing is the suggestion to bundle a set of pre-built > packages with a snapshot of the ports tree used to build them. Currently > it's > difficult to mix and match packages and ports because the versions of > dependencies are likely to differ between the package and the local version > of the ports tree. If you know you have the same ports tree your packages > were built from, you can much more easily combine pre-built packages and > local builds from source. OK, I see now. > > This has clear advantages. At the moment, unless you're very lucky with your > timing, you tend to find that as soon as you want to build one port from > source (perhaps to fiddle with the configuration) you have to stop using > prebuilt packages altogether. > I've not really had a lot of trouble with that, although it sometimes causes problems. OK, with something big like KDE it causes problems. > The drawback I can see is the disk space required to keep several > generations > of packages online - if the package-port bundle is rebuilt every three > weeks, > let's say, and you want to keep 6 months' worth of packages online, you need > to keep 9 complete versions available. > I think a bigger drawback is the security issue. As soon as any package in the collection has a significant announced security flaw, you are faced with the choice of withdrawing the entire collection, withdrawing only that package, or leaving the flawed package out there for people to use because it is more convenient for them. At the very least, it creates a management headache for whomever has to make the decisions. > Chris's suggestion is certainly more than just a request for more packages, > though. > It seems to me that a great deal of what his suggestion would accomplish would be accomplished by building a very extensive set of packages once a week or so, so that it is easy to do binary updates of anything that needs updating. For many, that should solve the bulk of the problem. And because most ports don't change weekly, the week-to-week changes shouldn't be unmanageably large. That could also be a starting point for implementing his full suggestion. Keeping around week-to-week deltas rather than an entire collection would reduce the storage requirement substantially. PC-BSD seems to already keep up-to-date binary packages of their applications. Do they accomplish that by only offering a small subset of the full ports collection? -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdlists@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 19:29:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A791065672 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F09F8FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2740 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 19:29:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2009 19:29:35 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A69B85084B; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:29:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Mark Stosberg References: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:29:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> (Mark Stosberg's message of "Wed\, 8 Apr 2009 14\:29\:32 -0400") Message-ID: <44iqlf2bc1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering loss of /var/db/pkg ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:29:37 -0000 Mark Stosberg writes: > I'll just say it plainly: > > /var/db/pkg is long gone and there is no backup. It was not copied to > new a machine. > > Is there is any hope of being able to use the ports or packages system in a > meangingful way again? > > My sense is that some recovery is possible, but may be prohibitively expensive. You can do a forced reinstall of all your ports, and you'll end up with a repopulated ports database. It will take a lot of clock time, but not much human time. It's not necessarily easy to figure out what all of the ports were, but there are a number of choices. If you can wipe out most of /usr/local and rebuild the ports, you can reinstall everything you want, and the database will be repopulated in the process. That's the easiest approach to understand, but involves considerable downtime. Another alternative would be to install all the ports to a non-standard PREFIX, and use the results of that to tell you which ports need to be reinstalled to the standard PREFIX. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 19:50:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5C5106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84E78FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n38JnxtH091384; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:49:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 735BBBA99; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:49:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:49:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090408194959.GA2322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <22951183.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090408174027.GB97995@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <22956085.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22956085.post@talk.nabble.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geli on exisitng laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:50:01 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:48:31AM -0700, new_guy wrote: >=20 >=20 > Roland Smith wrote: > >=20 > > My advice would be to put /home (where _your_ data resides) on a > > seperate partition and encrypt only that partition, with a password. >=20 > Thanks to everyone for the advice. I really do appreciate it. I like this > tip a lot. Since the default FreeBSD installer puts /home as a link to > /usr/home... could I just encrypt /usr and get the same result? I'm think= ing > this would be the best way. You could do that. But since enabling encryption effectively destroys the data on the old partition, you might as well split the old /usr into /usr and /home while you're at it. On my workstation /usr fills about 5GB. So reserving 5-8GB for /usr should be plenty. An encrypted /usr can be a PITA if you have to boot into single user mode for maintenance. You'd have to attach and mount the geli device by hand, instead of having the rc scripts automate it. A word of warning: make sure you have good recent backups before enabling encryption, in case it becomes FUBAR. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknc/+cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWYAgCbBr4jZjrcax7G/5MBTFTh7Rf6 GAcAni9NdLNJd1ZUC2dt6EAgEDlnFFVz =/3BE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 20:03:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BA4106567A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from mx02.dls.net (mx02.dls.net [216.145.245.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DF48FC22 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from [216.145.235.1] (helo=emailrob.com) by mx02.dls.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LrcyD-0008Dz-Re; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <49DCE5AD.70306@emailrob.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:58:05 +0100 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ fbsd_quest ] file_caching and hd caches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:03:53 -0000 howdy, y'all --- so, i was looking over the offerings of the on_line retailing "usual suspects", when i got to thinking: q: to what extent does freebsd cache recently_used hard_drive files ? q: under freebsd, to what extent are hard_drive internal_caches and their sizes [ e. g., 2mb, 8mb, 16mb ] important ? i am not so much looking for a history_ and theory_of_operation as i am looking for a "yes/no" to the question: q: should i pay up for hd_cache, if the other hd parameters are the same ? something else that i just thought up while typing this: q: are hd internal_caches non_volatile ? id est, q: do the cache contents survive a power_cycle ? [ some supplementary "fyi"s: yes, i am aware that hd access_times are a relative "eternity" to a chip_set's hd_port. i am not thinking about ram_size and swap_size and "thrashing"; all of my boxen have plenty of ram. i know i have to read it in the first time. rather, i am thinking about opening and reading some file that i recently wrote and closed. ] in advance, i thank you. please cc. rob ps --- remember, slavery sucks; so, have a happy pesach. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 20:43:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7901065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51238FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so301577fxm.43 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=0yGNNX1mKrMgSp9DrylT0teTnw4SAe0FXzEPz6HKXms=; b=BWok/w+ttEtLsQJQa3nYtA91+isU283rFpYWjh7mTPQyeaWG/e5q5EbPuXfiFlJogw 1FqmEa+rE8d7+nmgKoXQmOg2uez1nb6QKeEAFn7a4WJHicZSPEeXjfEXhELIvX0x/cFh /FCarTd88Mnmvkkw5QaayaAmLrMFHwFSc4kL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=wv96ZvhgHiRz9CP0ufSJNFOO/ywLwgoCoSEfRhBljI82Z/ReR8eA/cqxuldojPEqRT 15acUNTzkgfzeNfe2amTh/r9CkNJdYMnuggv5ovm4mtKBUuGnyBVhoO9AhgyT/gJRmP0 uHJw02ltrqYrgmEAa3O4WfGGqCuckhCvD31/k= Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr809237mur.87.1239223402875; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm1192128muq.35.2009.04.08.13.43.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:41:22 +0300 To: "Gary Gatten" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E939@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E939@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:43:24 -0000 On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:39:55 +0300, Gary Gatten wrote: > I found a 3.3.1 package - if my current attempts at the port upgrades > fails I'll try this route. > > Thanks again! > > Gary Hey, If I were you, first of all, I would try the "make clean; make distclean;make rmconfig; make install clean" thinghy first. But then again, I'm not you :P. So wish you pull it off eventually. Good luck, Claudius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 21:08:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D869106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92648FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 112884718F8 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:08:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5897B3865B6 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:08:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:53:10 +0200 Message-Id: <200904082253.AA2466447562@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:08:47 -0000 We need to print a line when the 3rd field (with trailing ";" delimiter) is, eg, exactly 5 lower case characters awk ' $3 ~ /^[a-z]{5,5};$/ {print $0} ' file ... doesn't work. Suggestions? thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 21:13:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340461065670 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from kientzle.com (kientzle.com [66.166.149.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E838FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by kientzle.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) id n38KYVRw015710; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from dark.x.kientzle.com (fw2.kientzle.com [10.123.1.2]) by kientzle.com with SMTP id mqqxbcqwriynszsxvf3hbervhn; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:34:31 -0700 From: Tim Kientzle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090404 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:13:53 -0000 I saw something similar recently due to a mismatch between hald and the xorg server. In my case, it affected all applications, not just firefox. * Are you running hald? * Do you have "AllowEmptyInput" set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? * Are you starting xdm, kdm, or gdm from /etc/ttys? Tim O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello, > got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates > (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does have > enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or popping up > the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, > I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of the ports. > > I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask for > some hints.. > > Regards, > Oliver > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 21:16:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC177106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B5A8FC1D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 20B49471868 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:16:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E063865BA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:16:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:00:49 +0200 Message-Id: <200904082300.AA2469003466@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:16:26 -0000 We need to print a line when the 3rd field (with trailing ";" delimiter) is, eg, exactly 5 lower case characters awk ' $3 ~ /^[a-z]{5,5};$/ {print $0} ' file ... doesn't work. Suggestions? thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 21:49:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E03C106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5188FC2D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2009 17:49:22 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PRM07592; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2009 17:48:44 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18909.7099.473247.432680@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:48:43 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44iqlf2bc1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> <44iqlf2bc1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: Recovering loss of /var/db/pkg ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:49:23 -0000 Lowell Gilbert writes: > > /var/db/pkg is long gone and there is no backup. It was not copied to > > new a machine. > > > > Is there is any hope of being able to use the ports or packages > > system in a meangingful way again? > > You can do a forced reinstall of all your ports, and you'll end > up with a repopulated ports database. It will take a lot of > clock time, but not much human time. Assuming everything goes cleanly. > It's not necessarily easy to figure out what all of the ports > were, but there are a number of choices. It will make life ... interesting ... if the OP ever wants to update. I'm not sure I fully understand the original question. However: I have ~950 ports on the current box. At one point I lost /var/db/pkg and needed to rebuild. Remembering some of what was installed was easy - OpenOffice, FireFox, java, gnome/kde, etc., all of which draw in large numbers of (cummonly-used) dependencies. But there were others I would have had no hope of even remembering I had installed. Then I realized I still had /usr/ports/distfiles, and most of the tarball names give you enough clue you can correctly guess the package from /usr/ports INDEX. If I knew anything about the MASTER_SITES (I think) variable(s ?) I could porbably have written a script. (For those who go this route, the "pkg_sort" program that comes with portupgrade will be useful.) Robert huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 22:03:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AFE1065678 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5238FC1A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38M3fPA065574; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:03:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38M3fsE065571; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:03:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:03:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: spellberg_robert In-Reply-To: <49DCE5AD.70306@emailrob.com> Message-ID: References: <49DCE5AD.70306@emailrob.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:03:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: fbsd_questions Subject: Re: [ fbsd_quest ] file_caching and hd caches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:03:45 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, spellberg_robert wrote: > howdy, y'all --- > > so, i was looking over the offerings of the on_line retailing "usual > suspects", > when i got to thinking: > > q: to what extent does freebsd cache recently_used hard_drive files ? To the extent that RAM is available. > q: under freebsd, to what extent are > hard_drive internal_caches and their sizes [ e. g., 2mb, 8mb, 16mb ] > important ? It depends on workload. > i am not so much looking for a history_ and theory_of_operation as > i am looking for a "yes/no" to the question: > > q: should i pay up for hd_cache, if the other hd parameters are the same ? Again, depends on workload. Also the difference in price for relatively small differences in cache RAM on the hard drive. > something else that i just thought up while typing this: > > q: are hd internal_caches non_volatile ? No. > id est, > > q: do the cache contents survive a power_cycle ? No. You may want to look at SSDs. > [ some supplementary "fyi"s: > > yes, i am aware that > hd access_times are a relative "eternity" to a chip_set's hd_port. > > i am not thinking about ram_size and swap_size and "thrashing"; > all of my boxen have plenty of ram. > > i know i have to read it in the first time. > rather, i am thinking about opening and reading > some file that i recently wrote and closed. FreeBSD is pretty good at that. For example, reboot and start Firefox. Then close it and start it again. There may be ways of prioritizing what's kept in cache, although I don't know them. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 22:08:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FF2106566C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2CE8FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n38M8ZYu011357; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:08:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id BBEB17629A; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11C976299; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:08:35 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E943@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sorta newb help compiling samba Thread-Index: Acm4isLiBJUJaZmkTfyY9u2lC6HCPAAC5F8w References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E939@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2009 22:08:35.0638 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FF20D60:01C9B896] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:08:57 -0000 Latest error below. Going with the pkg_add... libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `krb5_set_real_time': libsmb/clikrb5.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type libsmb/clikrb5.c:133: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type The following command failed: cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -I./popt -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -fPIC -DPIC -c libsmb/clikrb5.c -o libsmb/clikrb5.o gmake: *** [libsmb/clikrb5.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. *** Error code 1 -----Original Message----- From: Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin [mailto:claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:41 PM To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:39:55 +0300, Gary Gatten =20=20 wrote: > I found a 3.3.1 package - if my current attempts at the port upgrades > fails I'll try this route. > > Thanks again! > > Gary Hey, If I were you, first of all, I would try the "make clean; make=20=20 distclean;make rmconfig; make install clean" thinghy first. But then again, I'm not you :P. So wish you pull it off eventually. Good luck, Claudius
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 22:11:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DD61065672 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42BF8FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38MBKVO065619; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:11:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38MBKnp065616; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:11:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:11:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <200904082253.AA2466447562@mail.Go2France.com> Message-ID: References: <200904082253.AA2466447562@mail.Go2France.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:11:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: awk field (was Re: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:11:22 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Len Conrad wrote: > > We need to print a line when the 3rd field (with trailing ";" delimiter) is, eg, exactly 5 lower case characters > > awk ' $3 ~ /^[a-z]{5,5};$/ {print $0} ' file > > ... doesn't work. > > Suggestions? Please give an example of the line this doesn't work on, and exactly what you want it to do. "{5}" is probably acceptable instead of "{5,5}". I don't do much awk, but here's a Perl example: perl -e '$x = "abcde;"; print "Yes\n" if $x =~ /^[a-z]{5};$/' -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 22:23:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DA110656F8 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB88FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id c6so188580rvf.31 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:23:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750904061304v60074db1m104350779825550d@mail.gmail.com> Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr334420waf.6.1239229408173; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00163646d5f0ab65bd04671294fa@google.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:23:28 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Maxim Khitrov , af300wsm@gmail.com, Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: where is spl_autoload found in PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:23:29 -0000 On Apr 6, 2009 2:04pm, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM, af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I saw Zend in the ports and so I'm hoping that some here use it and can > help > > me with this one. I've installed the latest stable Zend, which is a > little > > newer than what I found in ports, and I'm running PHP version 5.2.8 > (which I > > did install from ports). I'm going through the Zend QuickStart guide > > > (http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-an-action-controller-and-view), > > and ran into this error when loading the page at this point of the quick > > start; > > > > Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Exception' with > message 'spl_autoload > > does not exist in this PHP installation' in > > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php:206 > Stack > > trace: #0 /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/public/index.php(18): > > Zend_Loader::registerAutoload() #1 {main} thrown in > > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/QuickStart/library/Zend/Loader.php on line > 206 > > > > I've searched through the ports looking for auto and load in php5 > modules > > and I've found nothing (I did my searching at freshports.org). I then > did a > > make config in the /usr/ports/lang/php5 directory but didn't see a > check box > > for spl_autoload in the options. How do I get this installed in my PHP > > installation? > devel/php5-spl Thank you very much. I'm not sure I'd have found that too easily. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 22:36:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232C10656C9 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC138FC21 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n38Ma0Xx006984; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:36:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 22B4710D9F2; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0106710D9EC; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:35:59 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:35:33 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E945@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E943@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sorta newb help compiling samba Thread-Index: Acm4isLiBJUJaZmkTfyY9u2lC6HCPAAC5F8wAADyVPA= References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com><70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E939@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E943@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Gary Gatten" , "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2009 22:35:59.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[64045650:01C9B89A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:36:17 -0000 LOL - pkg_add failed, couldn't find openLDAP! I thought ports and packages was supposed to automagically address all the dependencies! Trying to install krb5 now - couple other users reported same issue I had so maybe recent port is fixed. Did I mention how much fun this is?! -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 5:08 PM To: Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sorta newb help compiling samba Latest error below. Going with the pkg_add... libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `krb5_set_real_time': libsmb/clikrb5.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type libsmb/clikrb5.c:133: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type The following command failed: cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -I./popt -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -fPIC -DPIC -c libsmb/clikrb5.c -o libsmb/clikrb5.o gmake: *** [libsmb/clikrb5.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. *** Error code 1 -----Original Message----- From: Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin [mailto:claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:41 PM To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:39:55 +0300, Gary Gatten =20=20 wrote: > I found a 3.3.1 package - if my current attempts at the port upgrades > fails I'll try this route. > > Thanks again! > > Gary Hey, If I were you, first of all, I would try the "make clean; make=20=20 distclean;make rmconfig; make install clean" thinghy first. But then again, I'm not you :P. So wish you pull it off eventually. Good luck, Claudius
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 23:37:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577E2106564A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905C08FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n38NbBlF011002; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:37:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n38Nb93h010999; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:37:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:37:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <49DCE5AD.70306@emailrob.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: fbsd_questions , spellberg_robert Subject: Re: [ fbsd_quest ] file_caching and hd caches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:37:33 -0000 >> hard_drive internal_caches and their sizes [ e. g., 2mb, 8mb, 16mb ] >> important ? > > It depends on workload. almost not important. if FreeBSD would support NCQ it will be more, but still anything above 4MB doesn't make a difference IMHO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 00:27:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4811065673 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from mx01.dls.net (mx01.dls.net [216.145.245.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFEB8FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from [216.145.235.1] (helo=emailrob.com) by mx01.dls.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lri7Q-0005gG-DQ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:27:49 -0500 Message-ID: <49DD32FD.8080800@emailrob.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:27:57 +0100 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , fbsd_questions References: <49DCE5AD.70306@emailrob.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [ fbsd_quest ] file_caching and hd caches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:27:51 -0000 thanks, warren [ love your dot_com, btw ] --- Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, spellberg_robert wrote: > >> howdy, y'all --- >> >> so, i was looking over the offerings of the on_line retailing "usual >> suspects", >> when i got to thinking: >> >> q: to what extent does freebsd cache recently_used hard_drive files ? > > > To the extent that RAM is available. > >> q: under freebsd, to what extent are >> hard_drive internal_caches and their sizes [ e. g., 2mb, 8mb, >> 16mb ] >> important ? > > > It depends on workload. > >> i am not so much looking for a history_ and theory_of_operation as >> i am looking for a "yes/no" to the question: >> >> q: should i pay up for hd_cache, if the other hd parameters are the >> same ? > > > Again, depends on workload. Also the difference in price for relatively > small differences in cache RAM on the hard drive. now that i have a handle on today's prices, the choice of retailer is very important. it also appears [ from my reading of manufacturer's literature ] that the hd internal_cache is used as a write_buffer for the benefit of the chip_set, then the drive can take its own sweet time writing to its notion of "sector"s. therefore, for a mobo that is stuffed_to_the_gills with ram [ relative to the apps that it is running ], if i read you correctly, then reads will tend to come from mobo_ram and the hd_cache is mostly a write_buffer. i suspect that the hd_cache would be more important for an os that doesn't do its own caching [ until its notion of "idle"ness occurs ]. > >> something else that i just thought up while typing this: >> >> q: are hd internal_caches non_volatile ? > > > No. not surprised. > >> id est, >> >> q: do the cache contents survive a power_cycle ? > > > No. You may want to look at SSDs. understood. > >> [ some supplementary "fyi"s: >> >> yes, i am aware that >> hd access_times are a relative "eternity" to a chip_set's hd_port. >> >> i am not thinking about ram_size and swap_size and "thrashing"; >> all of my boxen have plenty of ram. >> >> i know i have to read it in the first time. >> rather, i am thinking about opening and reading >> some file that i recently wrote and closed. > > > FreeBSD is pretty good at that. For example, reboot and start Firefox. > Then close it and start it again. understood. > > There may be ways of prioritizing what's kept in cache, although I don't > know them. not important. thanks for the thought, though. to summarize, it looks like, for freebsd, i should "get a good price from a reputable retailer on a high_quality product from a reputable manufacturer". then, i can save my worrying_time for really important subjects, like "the determination of the correct yardarm height for the hanging of pirates". > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA nice part of the country, that. chicago & north western territory. rob mchenry county, illinois From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 03:50:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959EC1065677 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8678FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n393ogHv020505 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DD7091.3080900@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:50:41 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090322) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why USB enclosure with HD isn't a block device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:50:43 -0000 I got USB enclosure and put HD there. I tried to create NTFS on it (using mkntfs from sysutils/ntfsprogs). And got the message: /dev/da0 is not a block device. Refusing to make a filesystem here! mkntfs does 'stat' on /dev/da0. Why /dev/da0 stats not as a block device? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 04:06:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11CE106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EBD8FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3943KgC006829 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:03:20 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3946Rsc076562; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:06:27 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:06:27 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904090406.n3946Rsc076562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: yuri@rawbw.com In-reply-to: <49DD7091.3080900@rawbw.com> (message from Yuri on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:50:41 -0700) References: <49DD7091.3080900@rawbw.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why USB enclosure with HD isn't a block device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:06:30 -0000 > And got the message: > /dev/da0 is not a block device. > Refusing to make a filesystem here! Just a wild guess, but shouldn't you create slices first? Then create the filesystem on /dev/da0s1 Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 04:25:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CF4106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950318FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n394P8iX027924; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DD78A3.9060703@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:25:07 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090322) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <49DD7091.3080900@rawbw.com> <200904090406.n3946Rsc076562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200904090406.n3946Rsc076562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why USB enclosure with HD isn't a block device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:25:24 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Just a wild guess, but shouldn't you create slices first? > > Then create the filesystem on /dev/da0s1 > > Bests, > > Olivier > This as a must in the past. But now I always format, for example flash disks, without slices. And both Windows and FreeBSD have no problem. And I think /dev/da0 for US enclosure actually should be a block device like all disks. I think this is a bug. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why USB enclosure with HD isn't a block device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:39:00 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 08:50:41PM -0700, Yuri wrote: > I got USB enclosure and put HD there. > I tried to create NTFS on it (using mkntfs from sysutils/ntfsprogs). >=20 > And got the message: > /dev/da0 is not a block device. > Refusing to make a filesystem here! >=20 > mkntfs does 'stat' on /dev/da0. > Why /dev/da0 stats not as a block device? FreeBSD doesn't have block devices anymore. Try 'ls -l /dev/|less' and you'll see that every device's permissions begin with a 'c' for character devices. See [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/arch-handbook/driverbasics-block.html] as to the reason why. The complaint from mkntfs is probably a linuxism. Isn't there an override switch? On FreeBSD, the test should probably test for a character device. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkndiesACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX7agCfTDl64B+n35J1VCyuRo4ZkNS+ kcMAnixqIMQPeQbQuRZe0jh6D6UvGZSz =LKeZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 07:16:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B8C106567F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383A58FC22 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=d1kI/Ib9Mh/qc5CW5qAZHFT/c0sX+ch6/YMmdWYfzVfD7cQJRdsvV6MV2+gRrcsHegKPbcWAUviASC3y8ayWQZYSOuMnAdpdF9mYqtibXJZMyYrR9CDyXq/IfMizG6vr; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:62798) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LroUk-0007Hw-QA; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:16:18 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:16:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Cc: Bob Johnson Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:16:23 -0000 On Wednesday 08 April 2009 21:24:00 Bob Johnson wrote: > PC-BSD seems to already keep up-to-date binary packages of their > applications. Do they accomplish that by only offering a small subset > of the full ports collection? Yes - have a look at . I installed PC-BSD on a spare machine to investigate it. The first three ports/metaports I tried to install after completing the base setup were emacs, TeTeX and the Psi Jabber/XMPP client. None of those was available, and after seeing how few prebuilt packages there were in all categories, I gave up. My personal view is that PC-BSD gives the end user an impressive and reasonably slick computer-as-appliance with some ability to customise and still stay ``on the path''. For people who need that, PC-BSD is what they need. My feeling, though, is that anyone who finds themselves wanting to install a bunch of stuff from outside the PBI system (in other words, from ports, which are still there under the hood of PC-BSD) will soon want to switch to mainstream FreeBSD. As such PC-BSD has the potential to be an effective ``gateway drug''(!) Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 07:41:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B5B106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8038FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n397fVCZ071781 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n397fVSI071778 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:41:34 -0000 FreeBSD 7: I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : # ps -jaxw | grep mount root 60342 1 60289 60289 0 D ?? 0:00.00 mount_nfs fenix.cmi.ua.ac.be:/opt /home/nfs/fenix/opt This was called from a script, run bij root cron during the night (does an NFS mount of a file system of a remote system and makes a backup) I killed the parent processes: the shell executing the script, the script, the mount process that calls mount_nfs, leaving me with that last remaining process: # kill -9 60342 doesn't do anything # kill -9 -60289 (60289 is the PGID, see man kill) doesn't do anything either How to I get this process killed? 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This message was sent by: Global Access Incoming, Nuzhetiye cad, istanbul, besiktas 34357, Turkey Powered by iContact: http://freetrial.icontact.com To be removed click here: http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=46043157&l=82228&s=HVRU&m=562566&c=305227 Forward to a friend: http://app.icontact.com/icp/sub/forward?m=562566&s=46043157&c=HVRU&cid=305227 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:17:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEB4106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from mail-01.multibanka.com (mail-01.multibanka.com [80.233.138.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773D18FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com (mb-clust01.mbint.multibanka.com [10.2.2.202]) by mail-01.multibanka.com (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n397onMd067143 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:50:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:50:49 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Dump/Restore thread-index: Acm45+YQvX3kpCP9TSyIhhrc1BVndQ== From: "Daniels Vanags" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:17:22 -0000 Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore devfs. =20 > df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 52G 37G 11G 78% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Daniel Vanags Information Technology Department IT infrastructure system engineer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv Phone: +371 67019386 E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:35:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC851065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F2B8FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so336924yxm.13 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:35:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PKAp59koY5ZhTo+twJ+RNm2ghA1emgQzVuwXVukRAtI=; b=PwTSrshker0Ibj5Y9CZqnsU/X2XlWUM40sHQEh+AkYn7K3NEsa4vYttnwkqq40qlVB bfwLjwWgi/KVLwLwLfmOwluE0iHjsyPdlJlzKe0SXEUZPgq3BmuUq6p5cKx9n3ITjsNv m39+9vmMn9/oHNmtI5FHhu253mOL0gUnA3ihI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ipQo5tYVo9maRFY3p9og0ErMc49X2lBd+5NoRQtbEUYAGOku91FOPp6bxzGXLuGV0E G9ESbCBVJV97iLfWFst5vSA8ucoks+4w9rHnUmT0R8gG5qjzxgWzQhZOxGN7SWtIdLT4 fsndgd3pU/WQdE1ePKaPS/TG5oCHieUgV8Enw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.178.9 with SMTP id a9mr4692113anf.116.1239264762122; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:12:42 +0700 Message-ID: <3b7dc6d0904090112k75cb994epa91551ff9b6e1978@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexander Tarasov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Driver Problem: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:35:22 -0000 Hi, All! After installing FreeBSD 7.1 I've got problem with my network card. [root ~]# uname -a FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Apr 9 13:34:46 NOVST 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP i386 [root ~]# pciconf -lv ... cut ... none3@pci0:6:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x014b1025 chip=0x168414e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = newtwork subclass = ethernet [root ~]# dmesg | grep "bge" [root ~]# ifconfig -a lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 I've compiled my kernel with "device miibus" and "device bge" (my kernel config is GENERIC without FireWare & RAIDs). What does it mean? Is somethere driver for this card? Sorry for my terrible English =) Alexander V Tarasov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:45:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07271065672 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806A8FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n398Hj0j017341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:17:45 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n398Kqs3045228; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:20:52 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:20:52 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904090820.n398Kqs3045228@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv In-reply-to: (daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:46:00 -0000 > Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is > empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore > devfs. I am not sure about /usr/compat/linux/proc but /dev and /proc are created on the fly by the system: Lines are added into /dev for each new device that the system detects Lines are added into /proc for any new process started by the system There is not reason to dump or restore them. Bests. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:48:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4AC1065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513998FC26 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so469079fxm.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3XyWh2TDJ4G/fDnDp+hHW60gUbx8ZvYKP9eu0jck3A=; b=RPfXSqYEugwZCCMwJiXtfBsvgnf7cPaY5r59bLIvrcXOvQkMFXPRLF44EEp/O1paa1 7c6bcT5c2ydUnkA6/tvD8E1cGs79Bpp/vdQbxQ2Zk+icG4SuXWwQsfyX/wx2iAIh90jS 03HbpZi8XrUSbfhy+aVyfzypNixZwrysX+/1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ekbHIi3vriERtEFn3Ow7dmIKofkYV0bY8Ir97TGeGaLGEUFHpG1hT00QCZ1P1t6VQC u+zmo3KRJUu70lp24MBM52vBTkdFkGwG27tsKgYM/IBp+sUJbyb7v7In8PnGptHyqQ6s g/dtIvIvi9iRWC2OVJ39SEdils6DmyoEs4/LI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.11.7 with SMTP id o7mr1093109mui.103.1239264890001; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> From: n j Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:14:33 +0200 Message-ID: <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:48:07 -0000 I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades easier and more manageable. I recognize the need for people to configure custom options and compile from ports (that is why any new system *must* be compatible with ports), however, it should be noted that there's a lot of people running simple LAMP servers, almost exclusively using default options, who would greatly benefit from better binary package support. I've already ranted about this (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-December/188119.html) in a slightly different context (I talked about -SECURITY equivalent instead of -DESKTOP that the OP suggests) with almost the same idea - make it easy for people who are interested in running stable, secure servers do binary upgrades without the hassle of going through a major system recompile because of, for example, openldap shared library version bump. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:48:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F010656BD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1693E8FC24 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so524808ewy.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:48:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tmSTK+i4nm9/akw3+2SWnm3GpZ9cZttqQ6LelMPRPQw=; b=gtkm0117Et3eQVj02TSbp02OzOyi5t8JYScfGsvu1GLVkzUFk/RoPc4hktfipna+kA iN/OMRqi12jjAbfVqNWG4rU1BEGuEB3zACVAGqV8LIP+41jjb03tU2tKCsQY2DWmo2gG Q3hjhN2VwJeEWM1rxn9eq/fEExPxthQImAzxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vykJaRzN4t/mzEwcJdHnns8+PK7J62M0Mk6a+Y/SHlvqmBLOrEO9D8mSACrn6erGPE 93bGMiFuORWBOUfst5VM2i8992tyfUuGkl/thbDrwG0oetVykyXSz4dIh5Jp8a2NDpVE Biqpj/2ewpN5RpyzEJTL80Fz8+DkbYj9oJOeE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr1859418ebb.75.1239266892179; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:48:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3b7dc6d0904090112k75cb994epa91551ff9b6e1978@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b7dc6d0904090112k75cb994epa91551ff9b6e1978@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:47:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: Alexander Tarasov , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Driver Problem: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:48:14 -0000 2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov : > Hi, All! > > After installing FreeBSD 7.1 I've got problem with my network card. > > [root ~]# uname -a > FreeBSD =A07.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Apr =A09 13:34:46 NOVS= T > 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP =A0i386 > [root ~]# pciconf -lv > ... cut ... > none3@pci0:6:0:0: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x014b1025 > chip=3D0x168414e4 rev=3D0x10 hdr=3D0x00 > =A0 =A0vendor =A0 =A0 =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' > =A0 =A0class =A0 =A0 =A0=3D newtwork > =A0 =A0subclass =A0 =3D ethernet > [root ~]# dmesg | grep "bge" > [root ~]# ifconfig -a > lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > I've compiled my kernel with "device miibus" and "device bge" (my > kernel config is GENERIC without FireWare & RAIDs). > > What does it mean? Is somethere driver for this card? > > Sorry for my terrible English =3D) > > Alexander V Tarasov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Are you sure you didn't comment out any miibus lines or anything like that? Try with the GENERIC kernel, and kldload bge to see what happens. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:50:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2481E106576B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7098FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3A3B28419; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:34:34 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:34:34 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Daniels Vanags Message-ID: <20090409083434.GA81335@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:50:55 -0000 On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:50:49AM +0300, Daniels Vanags wrote: > Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is > empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore > devfs. These are pseudo file systems, and are dynamically managed by the system. You aren't expected to back them up. If you're system failed to boot, how did you inspect the filesystem? -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 08:56:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D134E106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD298FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so527923ewy.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:56:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w5hNLs062BTYJdBevK9kBfzPwXfnvbiuCgey/xnpbws=; b=I1OKrpWOgUo7u1/rYOCKydmY3myvS6aDIYr63KV9yZttw/3YHvChl5vQdY6XSClFcV rZYGjsj12QA5AKJRi2dET/sHf3OIj812TJJfM2nnEYPmcFT4SA8+KOr5m3NHtO/meP4z +FbTXG04NZQUJhUCBn4y48T3NlBpDGyVOQDmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EUm3Prh0EbsNZms8HWDel+dJ8+KNSEOentAvUPXu38IBmJGHjfbYyCnpF6v4tu2/N4 gKKW0N87sroQgl/DYiL/2uLp73TMrequBZ0EDQ3FQxBo6cBwS82hDievbEQ+8KD82BKc M5PnUXjqTE/fgOlCPLzj9Wtkp2ZWVNvqZ2r08= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr1880096eba.49.1239267378148; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:56:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:56:03 +0100 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:56:20 -0000 2009/4/9 Daniels Vanags : > Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is > empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore > devfs. > > > >> df -h > > Filesystem =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Size =A0 =A0Used =A0 A= vail Capacity =A0Mounted on > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 52G =A0 =A0 37G =A0 =A0 11G =A0 =A078%= =A0 =A0/ > > devfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1.0K =A0 = =A01.0K =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% =A0 =A0/dev > > procfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4.0K =A0 =A04.= 0K =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% =A0 =A0/proc > > linprocfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04.0K =A0 =A04.0K= =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% > /usr/compat/linux/proc > But.... /proc, /dev, and /u/c/l/proc are full in that df output... What are you talking about? Try ls /dev, and post that. Pretty sure it should be normal. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 09:01:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40E31065670 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8F08FC1A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so328838and.13 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:01:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q2SfwVKH+oANzYY3f359ej3WTxhV/AdAC6VSsrGzWn8=; b=uowEUbhhYanAMCJMxcczIvfugdNxR6BT1RrKgHbjQ2YsAid2+gY7J7+BP46yq1iDJr iPArQo3mDe8SvQNbIkBg1HFo7sVs2MqGguqBNbhxLppmvsvH6waAV27QZScadAqUNsPl mGIhmbVnCwjM7i5FelBB/ECDEcKKrw5E1k3Ug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HfRwyAxNKnIwfH2kr/AuOVlZMCFs/DKXplCU+J+Qxg5q9zQ3S+KpyebpLj1gl4wCci Xk40+GV59KFuO/BN0b9oGzLuNIduGvLXk6zCgHmXhCFhR5uHp0EuniFIxWHhAJHB4tnl y+wMCcEUgxiawAm1iddEts600JR+n10T7sQ68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.195.11 with SMTP id s11mr5219594anf.44.1239267664140; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:01:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3b7dc6d0904090112k75cb994epa91551ff9b6e1978@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:01:04 +0700 Message-ID: <3b7dc6d0904090201p2cdb8bc8u17236eb35e23d374@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexander Tarasov To: utisoft@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: =?utf-8?b?0J7RgtCy0LXRgjogRHJpdmVyIFByb2JsZW06IEJyb2FkY29tIE5l?= =?utf-8?q?tXtreme_Gigabit_Ethernet?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:01:05 -0000 With GENERIC I have same problem. My network card is Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet.. (14e4:1684 subsystem 1025:014b). I think, it's BCM5764. 2009/4/9, Chris Rees : > 2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov : >> Hi, All! >> >> After installing FreeBSD 7.1 I've got problem with my network card. >> >> [root ~]# uname -a >> FreeBSD =C2=A07.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Apr =C2=A09 13:34:= 46 NOVST >> 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP =C2=A0i386 >> [root ~]# pciconf -lv >> ... cut ... >> none3@pci0:6:0:0: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0= 14b1025 >> chip=3D0x168414e4 rev=3D0x10 hdr=3D0x00 >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0vendor =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0class =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D newtwork >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0subclass =C2=A0 =3D ethernet >> [root ~]# dmesg | grep "bge" >> [root ~]# ifconfig -a >> lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >> >> I've compiled my kernel with "device miibus" and "device bge" (my >> kernel config is GENERIC without FireWare & RAIDs). >> >> What does it mean? Is somethere driver for this card? >> >> Sorry for my terrible English =3D) >> >> Alexander V Tarasov >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Are you sure you didn't comment out any miibus lines or anything like > that? Try with the GENERIC kernel, and kldload bge to see what > happens. > > Chris > > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 10:43:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABCE1065674 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FAA8FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so571035ewy.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4XApZy7Gwc+CGTMlY41z6aaBiLOnktnofb+L0JS6TkM=; b=j70v87Ldu5jUTfbK6xg6EYG1i0GdAVZD909KOkLfNyjRs2RUNOIT9Mpw84YApHxgCK B5kOCgUQFw55X1DfZSmZ//Oy4yUV2pBwRw/widhZvsJ4RTGjl5ZHO6Uqj1GNN2vsh7sp Pxv02gLvi91gUyGvBfjS36qW3GtQPJMNvbb0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vYb8o0X9Rs9YltYkzg0vCdVqEpBtxmypGv7kJUTKEMvNMPwop5kvYGixjTm0jcuJma li+kU286XFVq5SmSj6BevFwyZKYl8Om7IE21Q2WfToEiLJ/X/NK+xSdrJq29mexslS5u dxWSJ+TqEp6ApI4BjDhApLpUu5WseQyvSdwCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.57.12 with SMTP id f12mr1933564eba.89.1239273806210; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:43:11 +0100 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:43:28 -0000 2009/4/9 Daniels Vanags : > This is a source comp output, after dump/restore /dev is empty. I run fre= esbie on target machine. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Rees [mailto:utisoft@googlemail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:56 AM > To: Daniels Vanags > Subject: Re: Dump/Restore > > 2009/4/9 Daniels Vanags : >> Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is >> empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore >> devfs. >> >> >> >>> df -h >> >> Filesystem =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Size =A0 =A0Used =A0 = Avail Capacity =A0Mounted on >> >> /dev/mirror/gm0s1a =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 52G =A0 =A0 37G =A0 =A0 11G =A0 =A078= % =A0 =A0/ >> >> devfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1.0K =A0 = =A01.0K =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% =A0 =A0/dev >> >> procfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4.0K =A0 =A04= .0K =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% =A0 =A0/proc >> >> linprocfs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04.0K =A0 =A04.0= K =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 100% >> /usr/compat/linux/proc >> > > But.... /proc, /dev, and /u/c/l/proc are full in that df output... > What are you talking about? Try ls /dev, and post that. Pretty sure it > should be normal. > > > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > You need to check then, that /dev is mounted. # mount -t devfs devfs /dev Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:18:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89503106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAEB8FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LrsHQ-0002Qh-Dg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:48 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:48 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:19:31 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <20090408184603.0a3540ed@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-13.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Xorg and nvidia-driver-173 ABI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:49 -0000 RW wrote: > I picked-up the most recent xorg update a couple of days ago, and > since then X has been failing to start with the binary nvidia driver, > and is leaving the following in Xorg.0.log: > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): This video driver ABI is not supported. > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Use the -ignoreABI option to override this check. > > -ignoreABI doesn't help. > > I presume that nvidia will eventually fix this for the current driver, > but I'm using the legacy driver port x11/nvidia-driver-173. Is there any > prospect of the nvidia driver working again on my hardware? > > If the answer is no, would the nv driver benefit from a switch from > i386 to amd64. > Have you rebuilt the nvidia-port after the xorg update? You might just need to do the make, make deinstall, make reinstall dance for the version you're using. This will rebuild the kernel module to match the new xorg. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:19:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5896710656C3; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBCC8FC2C; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LrsIU-0005Hk-8U>; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:19:54 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LrsIU-0002wi-7B>; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:19:54 +0200 Message-ID: <49DDD984.8000104@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:28 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Laine , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20090408173319.GA2370@free.bsd.loc> In-Reply-To: <20090408173319.GA2370@free.bsd.loc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:19:56 -0000 Jeff Laine wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:42:56PM +0000, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Hello, >> got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates >> (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does have >> enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or popping up >> the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, >> I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of the ports. >> >> I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask for >> some hints.. >> >> Regards, >> Oliver > > > It is unlikely your case, but I've had similar issues with firefox on my laptop > with intel video under 7.2-PRERELEASE. > Setting video driver option "AccelMethod" to old XAA mode in xorg.conf helped a lot. > > > > It is NOT the way I try Acceleration or not or what driver the box uses, this happens with VESA, Radeon, RadeonHD as well. VESA worked before. This is only on FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 with local displays. starting firefox3 remotely, this problem does not occur. I guess due to a lot of updates in xorg-port there is again an issue. The never ending story with X11 and wicked updates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:32:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49335106573C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from festin@sakha.net) Received: from mail.sakha.net (mail.sakha.net [80.73.64.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4721C8FC19 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from festin@sakha.net) Received: from [10.160.80.80] (helo=OnoSendai.) by mail.sakha.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrsUC-000CR0-T7; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:32:00 +1000 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:31:55 +1000 From: Festin Alexander To: alexus Message-ID: <20090409213155.2dfab1ce@OnoSendai.> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0904080718g7a6657ebv5129d307bdb58458@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0904061119x7fd32cd3tf2b60fcd63395b80@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061213j13457808xf2c0b1b0946ef19d@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061223s5ed02f6egee48078b598207f6@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061234h70bd30bt4dee6f5bd09789c2@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0904061308n37075058w198ed8959dd0c87a@mail.gmail.com> <20090408223752.0fbf4366@OnoSendai.> <6ae50c2d0904080718g7a6657ebv5129d307bdb58458@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsnmpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:32:09 -0000 ÷ Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:18:13 -0400 alexus ÐÉÛÅÔ: > 2009/4/8 Festin Alexander : > > ÷ Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:08:32 -0400 > > alexus ÐÉÛÅÔ: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin > >> wrote: > >> > All out of ideas. try with a script...maybe, i dnt know. > >> > > >> > >> I understand there is always that way, but I'd like to figure out > >> the proper way > >> > > > > How about to put some "echo" or "logger" into /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd for > > tracing script? > > > > I use bsnmpd and have no troubles. > > have you used it inside of jail? or in host environment? as i > mentioned earlier it works fine in host, but not in jail... hmm... I missed that. My works In host environment. > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:45:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B73F1065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC62D8FC21 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n39Bj7kc017431; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:45:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n39Bj5IJ017428; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:45:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:45:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniels Vanags In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:45:26 -0000 > Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is > empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore it always should be - before mounted as pseudo-fs > devfs. > > > >> df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 52G 37G 11G 78% / > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc > > linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% > /usr/compat/linux/proc > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Vanags > > Information Technology Department > > IT infrastructure system engineer > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv > > Phone: +371 67019386 > > E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:47:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8B9106568A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eray.aslan@caf.com.tr) Received: from mail.caf.com.tr (mail.caf.com.tr [88.250.85.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32508FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eray.aslan@caf.com.tr) Received: from localhost (sunny.caf.com.tr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C466839E36B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:47:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at caf.com.tr Received: from mail.caf.com.tr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sunny.caf.com.tr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Ygj8T0jJlh2 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zptr-nb01.caf.com.tr (unknown [62.181.56.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eray.aslan@zeplin.net) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27B8139E348 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by zptr-nb01.caf.com.tr (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63596236BD; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:47:32 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:47:32 +0300 From: Eray Aslan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:47:40 -0000 On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : > # ps -jaxw | grep mount > root 60342 1 60289 60289 0 D ?? 0:00.00 mount_nfs [...] > How to I get this process killed? reboot. You can't kill a process with a D flag. Google for uninterruptible sleep. -- Eray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 12:01:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CB21065717 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5d.socket.net [216.106.26.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE418FC30 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.200] (216.106.12.48.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.48]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D795E359 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:01:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: find command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:02:01 -0000 When using the find command with the -exec option, does the find command wait for the command being executed to finish before returning the next result? For example, if I am using find -exec {} to copy files to tape, will find wait for the command to write the file to tape complete before it returns the next result? Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 12:12:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63A310657DF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EA88FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so607810ewy.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:12:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KumdQwE3tsjohXTvVNrJb7LoIPUqrP03lL9zG9VvQw8=; b=LLqiDGTBuW5S6KjEx5LNOawTzRCEp3Mogw4PiHhzsEc4dVs49g2s8TM+3GksYhITYr KIMYs9/xwFcRflTE/fbf2beWOZVgjrCOcLyK/aAIkj9+BodXirxGJWKirADmljJY+gMU e1Qf3Jx0X50Q85kKWZo4qpmr5FkLABZHc9FTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S6BwYj0GCKgZ/O/Bb83bD14vLGp25u/v9l4N4LeERgZIm/cVQSxelUN2yxZqPzLdfh UyC1QNAXl2lV7MnfbRoXHJkmJJ6OkuAaQayoupUkd0+MeWvzQhRoT1SeOKGF1mwfWnA5 6Cxc+sbFPZxyN0ShUoxEOea+7Nio+qwydfBVw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.40.10 with SMTP id n10mr1268768ebn.42.1239279125619; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:12:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090408190805.GA1368@smyrak.com> <1239223684.4491.12.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <20090409110112.M98284@heron.pl> From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: no USB mice detected on GA-MA74GM-S2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:12:08 -0000 2009/4/9 =A0: > On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:48:04 -0500, Robert Noland wrote >> On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 21:08 +0200, Piotr Smyrak wrote: >> > >> > I recently upgraded my system to newer hardware with > motherboard >> > GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 Rev 1.0 with AMD 740G chipset (north > bridge) >> > and AMD SB700 (south) where USB support is located. Everything >> > would be fine except there is no USB mice detection by FreeBSD > at >> > all. And I am stuck with USB mise since the mobo has no PS/2 > port. >> > >> > First I started with my old build of 6.2, then upgraded to 6.4 >> > STABLE, to finally upgrade to 7.2 PRERELEASE in hope of fixing > the >> > issue. None of versions gave me USB mouse support. I have tried >> > connecting 3 various mice. No luck. The only effect I can > achieve >> > after connecting a mouse, is a somewhat delayed message on > console: >> >> rebuild/reinstall devel/libpciaccess now that you have >> updated kernel. > > I think I was not clear in my first post. My issue is the kernel > does not recognizes my USB mice, so I get no /dev/ums* devices at > all. > > I have made a clean install of all my ports after upgrade. Thanks > for your suggestion. > -- > =A0Piotr Smyrak > =A0piotr.smyrak@heron.pl > > _______________________________________________ > Is your BIOS up to date? I know of many Gigabyte mainboards with a USB stack bug, which is fixed with the latest images. Be careful if you do that though! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 12:13:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0548A106579F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61C78FC33 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so555767rvb.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/tSo9XL3Z+vRx9Xl24UV0a/NxSxm4FWbymvjNUisH5o=; b=iKiQW8EF5yPHF85Ua7uQGlYUwK+8X+/0B68wfIscoI4jMlAGTYfAau3w6wgfhE56dO qeEoiJJq11qqQFBgf57DYKxCgfZzyIbIRN+ZOcN7SdALEyCM56EjCmUfsIxHifLMR6sB o4nzqTDozGzUQRB6CvU+GNU9JaPkmYLvZKZ44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kWR3py/mv05LMWn48XkxqpdWPSsHKdBJgTzWDSeld2WzRnLqoTU9azfMlNgmaeVFTh NaCa4KjjokzR7TAR+PibtpoggQyINrn/mSFofZTxS9SkI1qGA/0zr85SkVv+T5CERNw+ V5gMdYasWpe3C5KMeVA+zWTp7rsX+gkFuUrzk= Received: by 10.141.50.11 with SMTP id c11mr1033875rvk.139.1239279187185; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm327271rvf.40.2009.04.09.05.13.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:13:00 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090409131300.0f717e4d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20090408184603.0a3540ed@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg and nvidia-driver-173 ABI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:13:08 -0000 On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:19:31 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > RW wrote: > > > I picked-up the most recent xorg update a couple of days ago, and > > since then X has been failing to start with the binary nvidia > > driver, and is leaving the following in Xorg.0.log: > > > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): This video driver ABI is not supported. > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Use the -ignoreABI option to override this check. > Have you rebuilt the nvidia-port after the xorg update? You might > just need to do the make, make deinstall, make reinstall dance for > the version you're using. This will rebuild the kernel module to > match the new xorg. > Yes, I always do that, the driver installs a library that overwrites one installed by Xorg, and doesn't work correctly otherwise. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:02:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6522106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D858FC19 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-108-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.108.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9109B16C03C6; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n39D2fRJ001691; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jonathan McKeown Message-Id: <20090409150241.95963a3f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bob Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:02:50 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:16:12 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > Yes - have a look at . I installed PC-BSD on a spare > machine to investigate it. The first three ports/metaports I tried to install > after completing the base setup were emacs, TeTeX and the Psi Jabber/XMPP > client. None of those was available, and after seeing how few prebuilt > packages there were in all categories, I gave up. The "problem" with PC-BSD is that it concentrates on the "average desktop user", read: the usual KDE user. That's why they have lots of KDE stuff available and applications for common productivity uses, as well as multimedia. You made the "mistake" to choose software that is "non-standard". So teTeX? What's this? Who uses teTeX? Go use KOffice, man! :-) I could say something similar about emacs and psi. On PC-BSD, you can always use pkg_add or the ports collection, but it may cause problems to do so. Allthough it's possible, it's adviced to use the PBI installer. > My personal view is that PC-BSD gives the end user an impressive and > reasonably slick computer-as-appliance with some ability to customise and > still stay ``on the path''. For people who need that, PC-BSD is what they > need. That seems to bei their goal, yes. My neighbor uses it for some years now and he's completely happy with it. In fact, he isn't interested in FreeBSD, nor does he have fundamental UNIX knowledge, but he likes KDE and the fact that he has not "Windows" on his machine (with all the advantages this fact implies). > My feeling, though, is that anyone who finds themselves wanting to > install a bunch of stuff from outside the PBI system (in other words, from > ports, which are still there under the hood of PC-BSD) will soon want to > switch to mainstream FreeBSD. Take a look at DesktopBSD (their tools are even in the ports collection). They stick to the ports and packages, but added some GUI stuff for installation and administration, without doing a "compatibility break" as PC-BSD does. > As such PC-BSD has the potential to be an > effective ``gateway drug''(!) In fact, it has. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:33:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3698106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BBB8FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n39DWp4N037048; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:33:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n39DWpDs037047; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:32:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200904091332.n39DWpDs037047@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, lconrad@Go2France.com In-Reply-To: <200904082253.AA2466447562@mail.Go2France.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:33:15 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: awk question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:33:17 -0000 Len Conrad wrote: > > We need to print a line when the 3rd field (with trailing ";" > delimiter) is, eg, exactly 5 lower case characters > > awk ' $3 ~ /^[a-z]{5,5};$/ {print $0} ' file > > ... doesn't work. If ";" is the delimiter character, you need to tell awk about it (i.e. use the -F option). This one should work: awk -F';' '$3 ~ /^[a-z]{5}$/ {print}' file If that still doesn't work for you, please specify your file format more exactly, and provide an example of the input lines. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "anyone new to programming should be kept as far from C++ as possible; actually showing the stuff should be considered a criminal offence" -- Jacek Generowicz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:39:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBB1106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (mail.streamingedge.com [66.151.192.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335B8FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (localhost.streamingedge.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B4F119EF4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.0.115] (unknown [172.17.0.115]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 895DE119EEF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DDFA72.6090901@streamingedge.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:38:58 -0400 From: Jacques Manukyan Organization: StreamingEdge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> In-Reply-To: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jacques.manukyan@streamingedge.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:39:14 -0000 Eray Aslan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > >> I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : >> # ps -jaxw | grep mount >> root 60342 1 60289 60289 0 D ?? 0:00.00 mount_nfs >> > [...] > >> How to I get this process killed? >> > > reboot. You can't kill a process with a D flag. Google for > uninterruptible sleep There is a rare exception that doesn't always work. But you can find processes that have locked onto that mount point and kill those. Then try unmounting or killing that NFS mount. Get lsof in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof and see what's keeping that mount point open. Then kill those processes. But again, this may not work. The only way to release processes marked with a D flag is to reboot. -- Jacques Manukyan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:51:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64A31065673 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640268FC1E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39DpQXF026506 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:51:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:51:26 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE6F1@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Forums FreeBSD Thread-Index: Acm5GkZ7iVlSzK2MRGO+GO93CBkwzw== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Forums FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:51:31 -0000 Are the forums down from FreeBSD? =20 Regards, Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:58:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24653106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (mail.streamingedge.com [66.151.192.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC628FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (localhost.streamingedge.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE5D119D34; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.0.115] (unknown [172.17.0.115]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A3ED1119D2E; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DDFF03.9080406@streamingedge.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:58:27 -0400 From: Jacques Manukyan Organization: StreamingEdge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johan Hendriks References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE6F1@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE6F1@w2003s01.double-l.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forums FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jacques.manukyan@streamingedge.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:58:43 -0000 Johan Hendriks wrote: > Are the forums down from FreeBSD? > They're down for me and have been all morning. I didn't see any maintenance notices so I have no idea if its an outage or if its planned. -- Jacques Manukyan > > > Regards, > > Johan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 14:10:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FE7106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80ED8FC19 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-108-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.108.192]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631B73E; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:10:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n39EAStl001873; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:10:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:10:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lconrad@Go2France.com Message-Id: <20090409161028.cc669c2d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200904091332.n39DWpDs037047@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200904082253.AA2466447562@mail.Go2France.com> <200904091332.n39DWpDs037047@lurza.secnetix.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lconrad@Go2France.com, Oliver Fromme , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: awk question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:10:50 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:32:51 +0200 (CEST), Oliver Fromme wrote: > If ";" is the delimiter character, you need to tell awk > about it (i.e. use the -F option). This one should work: > > awk -F';' '$3 ~ /^[a-z]{5}$/ {print}' file You can even omit {print} because it's the default action (to print the whole line, i. e. $0) when no action is given for a pattern. % awk -F';' '$3 ~ /^[a-z]{5}$/' file When using this in a shell, keep an eye on eventually needed quoting or escaping of $. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 14:43:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4398106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seurbors@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB2B8FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seurbors@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so678216ewy.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fM9jeRGDFzkXw74guFyHKFEYd5Qc7ySZmavE14FVcYw=; b=iVR8/PmFr6vT3p4bhtBTDf7LOfA1CLtq8GuZ5eoOp4tQuFkanD1cJrEIp1EVqXYVKr BsQw/nJQWgilNS04z3m/u1hRYrOz4cBrsW/9mjIsM9rWcXwhFMwuWUYcMQAXwGSVAtpJ qaTWJ4jqsVxlhmszyy1rbhuQfNpH6H9dyRziU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OrDINoTpmp4r3Y+AXLrzdSeEbRxZV4RR/kw+po/WFsjnefW7os2Bm8PWNbGp3+WZkk iIBtftyOY26f/Yjyhmso3F6AUVdkeSL1zflEeECnacbjgRHOYd/nRYt7Yr50sb79DuKw LEz39b9ICeofJbuhDh92+kkeMJl0TIsx4s7c8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.30.1 with SMTP id d1mr511450ebd.89.1239288212084; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:43:32 -0400 Message-ID: <26b281ee0904090743x2c1ebbc0pec6a435e83ca8f66@mail.gmail.com> From: Seur Bors To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: run_interrupt_driven_hooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:43:34 -0000 Greetings, I've purchased newer hardware (ASUS M3A78-EM, AMD Phenom 9650, 8GB Kingston DDR2-800, 2 x WD 500GB SATA), and am attempting to install the FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 release. The system boots off of the CD without err, and I have chosen the "default" boot. Everything looks good in the detection right up to the drives, and then, I get the following errors, followed by a system stall: run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config I am googling now while posting this, but just wondering if anyone has a quick tweak or fix that I can try to get this moving. Thanks in advance, as always! Regards, Seur Bors From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 14:47:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D06106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471708FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id c6so460289rvf.31 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:47:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.103.1 with SMTP id a1mr492781wac.18.1239288435884; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:47:15 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:47:16 -0000 Hi, My motherboard, an ASUS K8V-X, has a generic type sound chip on board, according to ASUS' specifications, it is an AD1980 chipset. The hardware notes, linked from the handbook, does not list this chipset but does list several Intel type HDA chipsets including one AD1981 chipset. Never the less, using the handbook instructions I loaded the meta sound driver and my chipset was identified as a via8233 chipset. The meta driver loaded many drivers into the kernel, but through trial and error I've discovered that only sound.ko and snd_via8233.ko need to be loaded. So, I put these two lines into /boot/loader.conf: sound="YES" snd_via8233="YES" However, these two modules do not load on bootup. Why? How do I fix this? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 14:57:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6B106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415A98FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n39EqIEx033741; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:52:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n39EqHTR033740; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:52:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:52:17 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Daniels Vanags Message-ID: <20090409145217.GE33449@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump/Restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:57:16 -0000 On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:50:49AM +0300, Daniels Vanags wrote: > Please Help! After dump-restore /dev, /proc, /usr/compat/linux/proc - is > empty, system fealure to boot. Please guide me, how to dump/restore > devfs. > ???? You only dump(8) file systems. /dev /procfs /dev/mirror/..., etc are not filesystems. They are just directories. Don't dump them. /procfs is not even a real directory so it goes away and gets repopulated when the system boots again. They all need to live in the '/' filesystem and of what is dumpable, gets dumped when you dump / (the root filesystem). Unless I completely misunderstand what you are asking. ////jerry > > > > df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 52G 37G 11G 78% / > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc > > linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% > /usr/compat/linux/proc > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Vanags > > Information Technology Department > > IT infrastructure system engineer > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv > > Phone: +371 67019386 > > E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 14:59:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE72106567A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from mail1.etv.net (mail1.etv.net [66.111.113.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B078FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from efinley04.etv.net ([74.214.237.51]) by mail1.etv.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Lrvih-000BqH-Eu; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:59:11 -0600 Message-ID: <49DE0D3F.5000008@efinley.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:59:11 -0600 From: Elliot Finley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew References: <49CD9420.3010401@efinley.com> <49CDF1E7.6040607@awdcomp.net> In-Reply-To: <49CDF1E7.6040607@awdcomp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA controller not recognized in FBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:59:13 -0000 Andrew wrote: > Hi Eliiot, > > > Elliot Finley wrote: >> I've got two of these: >> >> SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 >> >> each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see >> all the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't >> see them in dmesg or /dev. >> >> I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to >> load to get FreeBSD to recognize these? >> > > nope, though according to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/120842 > you need to disable the hptrr driver in the GENERIC kernel. That worked, thank you. Elliot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:04:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC58106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C628FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.139] (unknown [192.168.1.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468CA22852B; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:22 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49DE0E77.7010705@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:04:23 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: af300wsm@gmail.com References: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> In-Reply-To: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:04:24 -0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > My motherboard, an ASUS K8V-X, has a generic type sound chip on board, > according to ASUS' specifications, it is an AD1980 chipset. The hardware > notes, linked from the handbook, does not list this chipset but does > list several Intel type HDA chipsets including one AD1981 chipset. Never > the less, using the handbook instructions I loaded the meta sound driver > and my chipset was identified as a via8233 chipset. The meta driver > loaded many drivers into the kernel, but through trial and error I've > discovered that only sound.ko and snd_via8233.ko need to be loaded. So, > I put these two lines into /boot/loader.conf: > > sound="YES" > snd_via8233="YES" > > However, these two modules do not load on bootup. Why? How do I fix this? > > Thanks, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From man snd_via8233: Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5): snd_via8233_load="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:06:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FC1106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175818FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so637987tia.3 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pDOxIRjox9XPklyKHLRjLmBB5Hec/Zj4TGRRKyV9/lM=; b=mChQv6R72K+p5IVGkoz0mN8ZfCqa4jKFJAXwYvoVZRX/th578FrYzLxbucrn82QLZx mE4FyzPTyk1ejoPgKn53dwozLSl22EXSpkjyI/4PD7jEFyHTykP9DuqWj/V5RWTVQK0H zqKLzx0ladlJ6xsH6qTQiIePBVMLjM+1ZhNAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gJVusJmm4GmhkAm3qFdKFrpQDNPkVkvZ7hnhJQ3LnU08gwSS7vIahlTamRf/OT2MsG zGeTdnQ743E1HrLwKZx+uE50KmyQJPWw0+AAKEGp3cA/cqwckfHESfW4OCN2W/nnYrcN rrsfrxLsu0IglTMNYAWEfIfWeJtYOuNry/BuA= Received: by 10.110.50.19 with SMTP id x19mr3470266tix.42.1239289609426; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.74.196.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm731472tim.24.2009.04.09.08.06.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:06:21 +0700 From: kyanh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090409220621.65842fb2@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> References: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:06:52 -0000 On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:47:15 +0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > My motherboard, an ASUS K8V-X, has a generic type sound chip on > board, according to ASUS' specifications, it is an AD1980 chipset. > The hardware notes, linked from the handbook, does not list this > chipset but does list several Intel type HDA chipsets including one > AD1981 chipset. Never the less, using the handbook instructions I > loaded the meta sound driver and my chipset was identified as a > via8233 chipset. The meta driver loaded many drivers into the > kernel, but through trial and error I've discovered that only > sound.ko and snd_via8233.ko need to be loaded. So, I put these two > lines into /boot/loader.conf: > > sound="YES" > snd_via8233="YES" The correct lines are sound_load="YES" snd_via8233_load="YES" Regards, -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:10:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0344A1065677 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp234-119.static.internode.on.net [203.122.234.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7418FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LrvtA-000MA5-HF; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:40:06 +0930 Message-ID: <49DE0F81.50203@awdcomp.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:38:49 +0930 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elliot Finley References: <49CD9420.3010401@efinley.com> <49CDF1E7.6040607@awdcomp.net> <49DE0D3F.5000008@efinley.com> In-Reply-To: <49DE0D3F.5000008@efinley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "gateway.abdulla", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Elliot Finley wrote: > Andrew wrote: >> Hi Eliiot, >> >> >> Elliot Finley wrote: >>> I've got two of these: >>> >>> SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 >>> >>> each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see >>> all the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't >>> see them in dmesg or /dev. >>> >>> I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to >>> load to get FreeBSD to recognize these? >>> >> >> nope, though according to >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/120842 >> you need to disable the hptrr driver in the GENERIC kernel. > > That worked, thank you. > [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Score: -13 (-) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA controller not recognized in FBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:10:08 -0000 Elliot Finley wrote: > Andrew wrote: >> Hi Eliiot, >> >> >> Elliot Finley wrote: >>> I've got two of these: >>> >>> SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 >>> >>> each with 8 1T Hitachi drives hanging off them. When booting, I see >>> all the drives scanned and recognized by the controller, but I don't >>> see them in dmesg or /dev. >>> >>> I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-R amd64. Is there a special driver I need to >>> load to get FreeBSD to recognize these? >>> >> >> nope, though according to >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/120842 >> you need to disable the hptrr driver in the GENERIC kernel. > > That worked, thank you. > :) No worries, I had to do same with my VIA 6421 pci SATA controller. > Elliot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:18:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C0B106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from srv0006.pine.nl (srv0006.pine.nl [213.156.9.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959918FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv0006.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489714D0EF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:18:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pine.nl Received: from srv0006.pine.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv0006.pine.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hpfwOAIuD-2u for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fileserver.pine.nl (a83-161-224-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.161.224.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by srv0006.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E7854D0C6 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.0.46] (unknown [172.16.0.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fileserver.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68956130EA4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:18:26 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:18:26 -0000 Hello, Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those interfaces at once? Thanks, -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:20:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9371065670 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1CF8FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.139] (unknown [192.168.1.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9592285A1; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:17 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49DE1233.5080501@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:20:19 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kyanh References: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> <20090409220621.65842fb2@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <20090409220621.65842fb2@icy.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:20:19 -0000 kyanh wrote: > On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:47:15 +0000 > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My motherboard, an ASUS K8V-X, has a generic type sound chip on >> board, according to ASUS' specifications, it is an AD1980 chipset. >> The hardware notes, linked from the handbook, does not list this >> chipset but does list several Intel type HDA chipsets including one >> AD1981 chipset. Never the less, using the handbook instructions I >> loaded the meta sound driver and my chipset was identified as a >> via8233 chipset. The meta driver loaded many drivers into the >> kernel, but through trial and error I've discovered that only >> sound.ko and snd_via8233.ko need to be loaded. So, I put these two >> lines into /boot/loader.conf: >> >> sound="YES" >> snd_via8233="YES" > > The correct lines are > > sound_load="YES" > snd_via8233_load="YES" > > Regards, > You even need sound_load="YES" in the loader.conf. snd_via8234 pulls it upon loading. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:27:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C401065705 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (mail.streamingedge.com [66.151.192.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060F98FC1D for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (localhost.streamingedge.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27126119EF7; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.0.115] (unknown [172.17.0.115]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 07860119EF5; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49DE13D9.2070601@streamingedge.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:27:21 -0400 From: Jacques Manukyan Organization: StreamingEdge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frederique Rijsdijk References: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> In-Reply-To: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jacques.manukyan@streamingedge.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:27:25 -0000 Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to > one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those > interfaces at once? > You're talking about bridging. Look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html Section 31.5.7.1 is what you're asking for. -- Jacques Manukyan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:36:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A341065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760FE8FC2E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.139] (unknown [192.168.1.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7072284FF; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:36:52 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49DE1615.1020202@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:36:53 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kyanh References: <001636457a9afec3d9046720524f@google.com> <20090409220621.65842fb2@icy.local> <49DE1233.5080501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49DE1233.5080501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:36:54 -0000 Ricardo Jesus wrote: > kyanh wrote: >> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:47:15 +0000 >> af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My motherboard, an ASUS K8V-X, has a generic type sound chip on >>> board, according to ASUS' specifications, it is an AD1980 chipset. >>> The hardware notes, linked from the handbook, does not list this >>> chipset but does list several Intel type HDA chipsets including one >>> AD1981 chipset. Never the less, using the handbook instructions I >>> loaded the meta sound driver and my chipset was identified as a >>> via8233 chipset. The meta driver loaded many drivers into the >>> kernel, but through trial and error I've discovered that only >>> sound.ko and snd_via8233.ko need to be loaded. So, I put these two >>> lines into /boot/loader.conf: >>> >>> sound="YES" >>> snd_via8233="YES" >> >> The correct lines are >> >> sound_load="YES" >> snd_via8233_load="YES" >> >> Regards, >> > You even need sound_load="YES" in the loader.conf. snd_via8234 pulls it > upon loading. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It should read *you don't even..* Oops ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:47:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C120D106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853E38FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39FksXJ016285; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:47:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 254095F957; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:46:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14525F95C; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:46:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:46:53 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:45:58 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E950@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: new package system proposal Thread-Index: Acm48Dh3prpVc/iVSRqXNh7t+h2IOwANoH6g References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com><200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "n j" , "User Questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 15:46:53.0597 (UTC) FILETIME=[67ADACD0:01C9B92A] Cc: Subject: RE: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:47:21 -0000 I haven't worked with *nix os's as much as FreeBSD - Well, maybe different flavors of SCO but as far as installing apps and what not mostly FreeBSD. I've installed maybe half a dozen apps and NONE of them took less than 2 - 3 days. Part of that is my slow a$$ test system - and my ignorance, but it seems like a MAJOR hassle for even the simplest thing! It could just be me, but seems like many developers choose to link to other libraries/modules even if they just need one simple function they could build into their source directly. Hence a dependency is "needlessly" created. Multiply this 500 times and installing a simple app turns into a nightmare. I'm definitely gonna start trying to use more packages than ports, but the port system is necessary and eventually I get stuff working! G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of n j Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:15 AM To: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades easier and more manageable. I recognize the need for people to configure custom options and compile from ports (that is why any new system *must* be compatible with ports), however, it should be noted that there's a lot of people running simple LAMP servers, almost exclusively using default options, who would greatly benefit from better binary package support. I've already ranted about this (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-December/1881 19.html) in a slightly different context (I talked about -SECURITY equivalent instead of -DESKTOP that the OP suggests) with almost the same idea - make it easy for people who are interested in running stable, secure servers do binary upgrades without the hassle of going through a major system recompile because of, for example, openldap shared library version bump. Regards, --=20 Nino _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:52:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445841065688 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5F58FC1A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,161,1238968800"; d="scan'208";a="212930085" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2009 17:22:36 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 6BE381B07B9; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:22:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using gamepad with usb2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:52:18 -0000 hi everybody, i wrote the following mail to the freebsd-x11 mailinglist and was told that the x joystick driver doesn't work with the usb2 stack. is there any possibility at all for me to use my gamepad? cheers. Alex here's the original mail: hi there, i'm running FreeBSD moshnroll 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #28 r190845: Wed Apr 8 16:27:42 CEST 2009. i'd like to use my joypad under X in order to play games, but i'm unable to find any information on how to do this. the device get's recognized as HID device. here's the line from dmesg: uhid0: on usbus0 i added the following lines to my xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2" Option "Vendor" "Logitech" Driver "joystick" Option "Path" "/dev/uhid0" Option "Device" "/dev/uhid0" Option "DebugLevel" "99" EndSection and added InputDevice "Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2" "SendCoreEvents" to Section "ServerLayout" after starting X however i'm not able to use the joypad. i checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log and found these entries which seem to be related to the problem: (**) Option "Device" "/dev/uhid0" (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2: always reports core events (**) Option "DebugLevel" "99" (**) Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2: debug level set to 99 (**) Button 1 mapped to 5 (**) Button 2 mapped to 5 (**) Button 3 mapped to 5 (**) Button 4 mapped to 0 (**) Button 5 mapped to 0 (**) Button 6 mapped to 0 (**) Button 7 mapped to 0 (**) Button 8 mapped to 0 (**) Button 9 mapped to 0 (**) Button 10 mapped to 0 (**) Button 11 mapped to 0 (**) Button 12 mapped to 0 (**) Button 13 mapped to 0 (**) Button 14 mapped to 0 (**) Button 15 mapped to 0 (**) Button 16 mapped to 0 (**) Button 17 mapped to 0 (**) Button 18 mapped to 0 (**) Button 19 mapped to 0 (**) Button 20 mapped to 0 (**) Button 21 mapped to 0 (**) Button 22 mapped to 0 (**) Button 23 mapped to 0 (**) Button 24 mapped to 0 (**) Button 25 mapped to 0 (**) Button 26 mapped to 0 (**) Button 27 mapped to 0 (**) Button 28 mapped to 0 (**) Button 29 mapped to 0 (**) Button 30 mapped to 0 (**) Button 31 mapped to 0 (**) Button 32 mapped to 0 (**) Axis 1 type is 1, mapped to 1, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 2 type is 1, mapped to 2, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 3 type is 1, mapped to 3, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 4 type is 1, mapped to 4, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 5 type is 2, mapped to 1, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 6 type is 2, mapped to 2, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 7 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 8 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 9 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 10 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 11 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 12 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 13 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 14 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 15 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 16 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 17 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 18 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 19 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 20 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 21 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 22 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 23 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 24 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 25 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 26 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 27 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 28 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 29 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 30 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 31 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Axis 32 type is 0, mapped to 0, amplify=1.000 (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2 (keys): always reports core events (II) evaluating device (Razer Diamondback 1600) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Razer Diamondback 1600" (type: MOUSE) (II) evaluating device (Dell USB Keyboard) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Dell USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) evaluating device (Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2" (type: JOYSTICK) (II) evaluating device (Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2 (keys)) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2 (keys)" (type: JOYSTICK) jstkDeviceControlProc what=INIT (EE) Joystick: Didn't find any usable axes. jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_INIT (**) Initializing Keyboard with 1 keys (**) Keymap [8]: 0x00000000 (II) Razer Diamondback 1600: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Razer Diamondback 1600: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_ON jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_OFF (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1152x864" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "StopBits" "2" (**) Option "DataBits" "8" (**) Option "Parity" "None" (**) Option "Vmin" "1" (**) Option "Vtime" "0" (**) Option "FlowControl" "None" couldn't enable device 4 jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_ON jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_OFF (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1152x864" couldn't enable device 4 jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_ON (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_OFF (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1152x864" couldn't enable device 4 jstkKeyboardDeviceControlProc what=DEVICE_ON (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button i tried running usbhidctl -f /dev/uhid0 -a, but got no output. running usbhidctl -f /dev/uhid0 -r gives me the following output: Report descriptor: Collection page=Generic_Desktop usage=Game_Pad Total input size 0 bytes Total output size 0 bytes Total feature size 0 bytes i did the following to see if the device actually works: hd /dev/uhid0 and this is the result after pressing buttons 1-10: 00000000 01 80 80 7f 80 18 00 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000010 01 80 80 7f 80 28 00 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |.....(..........| 00000020 01 80 80 7f 80 48 00 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |.....H..........| 00000030 01 80 80 7f 80 88 00 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000040 01 80 80 7f 80 08 01 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000050 01 80 80 7f 80 08 02 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000060 01 80 80 7f 80 08 04 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000070 01 80 80 7f 80 08 08 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000080 01 80 80 7f 80 08 10 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |................| 00000090 01 80 80 7f 80 08 20 08 01 80 80 7f 80 08 00 08 |...... .........| cheers. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:54:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C045106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6CC8FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39Fs9Uo022951; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:54:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AD60E784A6; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8743C784FF; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:54:09 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E952@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E950@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: new package system proposal Thread-Index: Acm48Dh3prpVc/iVSRqXNh7t+h2IOwANoH6gAAESGBA= References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com><200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E950@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "n j" , "User Questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 15:54:09.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B7A76D0:01C9B92B] Cc: Subject: RE: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:54:31 -0000 This is the kinda B$ I'm talking about. Trying to install krb5 from ports, and after 2 hours (or more) of finding and compiling dependencies and whatever else "make" does - it aborts! WTF!!! I'm sure when I try to remove "heimdal-1.0.1" it will cause more problems that lead to more problems.... =3D=3D=3D> Installing for krb5-1.6.3_5 =3D=3D=3D> krb5-1.6.3_5 conflicts with installed package(s): heimdal-1.0.1 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Gatten=20 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:46 AM To: 'n j'; User Questions Subject: RE: new package system proposal I haven't worked with *nix os's as much as FreeBSD - Well, maybe different flavors of SCO but as far as installing apps and what not mostly FreeBSD. I've installed maybe half a dozen apps and NONE of them took less than 2 - 3 days. Part of that is my slow a$$ test system - and my ignorance, but it seems like a MAJOR hassle for even the simplest thing! It could just be me, but seems like many developers choose to link to other libraries/modules even if they just need one simple function they could build into their source directly. Hence a dependency is "needlessly" created. Multiply this 500 times and installing a simple app turns into a nightmare. I'm definitely gonna start trying to use more packages than ports, but the port system is necessary and eventually I get stuff working! G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of n j Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:15 AM To: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades easier and more manageable. I recognize the need for people to configure custom options and compile from ports (that is why any new system *must* be compatible with ports), however, it should be noted that there's a lot of people running simple LAMP servers, almost exclusively using default options, who would greatly benefit from better binary package support. I've already ranted about this (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-December/1881 19.html) in a slightly different context (I talked about -SECURITY equivalent instead of -DESKTOP that the OP suggests) with almost the same idea - make it easy for people who are interested in running stable, secure servers do binary upgrades without the hassle of going through a major system recompile because of, for example, openldap shared library version bump. Regards, --=20 Nino _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:57:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD367106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951CF8FC1A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39FuUMg025126; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:56:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 36F6D785A8; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:56:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB462785B1; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:56:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:56:15 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:55:59 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E953@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E952@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: new package system proposal Thread-Index: Acm48Dh3prpVc/iVSRqXNh7t+h2IOwANoH6gAAESGBAAACFh8A== References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com><200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <200904090916.12786.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <92bcbda50904090114r2924d03p606d30a7fc91f84d@mail.gmail.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E950@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E952@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "n j" , "User Questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 15:56:15.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[B69462C0:01C9B92B] Cc: Subject: RE: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:57:02 -0000 As expected..... pkg_delete: package 'heimdal-1.0.1' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled: freeradius-2.1.3 FreeRADIUS is the WHOLE reason I'm trying to install SAMBA! LOVE this B$!!! -----Original Message----- From: Gary Gatten=20 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:54 AM To: 'n j'; 'User Questions' Subject: RE: new package system proposal This is the kinda B$ I'm talking about. Trying to install krb5 from ports, and after 2 hours (or more) of finding and compiling dependencies and whatever else "make" does - it aborts! WTF!!! I'm sure when I try to remove "heimdal-1.0.1" it will cause more problems that lead to more problems.... =3D=3D=3D> Installing for krb5-1.6.3_5 =3D=3D=3D> krb5-1.6.3_5 conflicts with installed package(s): heimdal-1.0.1 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Gatten=20 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:46 AM To: 'n j'; User Questions Subject: RE: new package system proposal I haven't worked with *nix os's as much as FreeBSD - Well, maybe different flavors of SCO but as far as installing apps and what not mostly FreeBSD. I've installed maybe half a dozen apps and NONE of them took less than 2 - 3 days. Part of that is my slow a$$ test system - and my ignorance, but it seems like a MAJOR hassle for even the simplest thing! It could just be me, but seems like many developers choose to link to other libraries/modules even if they just need one simple function they could build into their source directly. Hence a dependency is "needlessly" created. Multiply this 500 times and installing a simple app turns into a nightmare. I'm definitely gonna start trying to use more packages than ports, but the port system is necessary and eventually I get stuff working! G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of n j Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:15 AM To: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades easier and more manageable. I recognize the need for people to configure custom options and compile from ports (that is why any new system *must* be compatible with ports), however, it should be noted that there's a lot of people running simple LAMP servers, almost exclusively using default options, who would greatly benefit from better binary package support. I've already ranted about this (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-December/1881 19.html) in a slightly different context (I talked about -SECURITY equivalent instead of -DESKTOP that the OP suggests) with almost the same idea - make it easy for people who are interested in running stable, secure servers do binary upgrades without the hassle of going through a major system recompile because of, for example, openldap shared library version bump. Regards, --=20 Nino _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:02:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A326E106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (mail.geekdelivery.com [206.75.152.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE6D8FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A241A9992 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wserver.geekdelivery.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RdCAJPpC+BvT for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dev.localnet (unknown [206.75.152.198]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7574C1A9991 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:02:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:02:01 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.27-11-generic; KDE/4.2.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200904031144.31198.ray@stilltech.net> In-Reply-To: <200904031144.31198.ray@stilltech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904091002.01582.ray@stilltech.net> Subject: Re: questions about Fatal Trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:02:03 -0000 On Friday 03 April 2009 11:44:31 Ray wrote: > Hello, > I have received a kernel Trap 12 error several times now and am trying to > figure it out. > the error occurred today, and the previous time was about two weeks ago. > last time I had to run fsck manually if that proves anything. > > > uname -a gives the following: > > FreeBSD wserver.********.com 7.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Wed > Sep 17 13:30:46 MDT 2008 > root@wserver.*********.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOD amd64 > > > Google returns results mostly for versions 4.x and 5.x, but it suggest 2 > main things: > test ram, and kernel panic troubleshooting. > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC- > TROUBLESHOOTING) > > Is there a way to test the ram without removing it from the machine and > leave the machine functioning. I've used memtest 86 before, but obviously > the machine has to be offline for this test. > > However, I'm a little unsure of the instructions in the handbook on > troubleshooting. namely, it talks about using the nm command, but I can't > figure out the data file to give it as an argument, and second I'm unsure > about using a debugging Kernel on a production server. I have heard that It > will significantly slow down a machine. > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Ray Can anybody make any suggestions, or is there a better list to take this question to? Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:11:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB471065670 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C258FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n39FmMBJ030785 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:48:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5969D8A2AC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 15C2415; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:48:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:48:20 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090409154820.GA67694@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:48:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9218/Thu Apr 9 15:52:20 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 49DE18C6.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 49DE18C6.003/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 49DE18C6.003 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.055 -> S=0.055 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:11:40 -0000 Nino wrote: > I'd like to use this opportunity to generally support this and any > other ideas taking direction of making binary installs and upgrades > easier and more manageable. You may be interested to read http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/freebsdports.html and to consider playing with http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/pkgupgrade -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:12:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E927B10656DD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33BB8FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 5514 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2009 16:12:29 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Apr 2009 16:12:29 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 456D65084D; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:12:28 -0400 (EDT) To: Frederique Rijsdijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> <49DE13D9.2070601@streamingedge.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:12:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49DE13D9.2070601@streamingedge.com> (Jacques Manukyan's message of "Thu\, 09 Apr 2009 11\:27\:21 -0400") Message-ID: <44y6u96c2b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:12:30 -0000 Jacques Manukyan writes: > Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to >> one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those >> interfaces at once? >> > > You're talking about bridging. Look at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html > > Section 31.5.7.1 is what you're asking for. I don't think he wants to forward the traffic between those interfaces, though; just dump them all together. I'm not sure, though. If I'm right, I don't think tcpdump can do that directly. One idea might be to run a firewall to choose the packets and to forward a copy to a dummy interface that can be monitored. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:47:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36BC1065672 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16C88FC34 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2081130D84; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9881D130D7F; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224745265C; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DE2687.5070100@isafeelin.org> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:47:03 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> <49DE13D9.2070601@streamingedge.com> <44y6u96c2b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44y6u96c2b.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:47:08 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jacques Manukyan writes: >> Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to >>> one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those >>> interfaces at once? >>> >> You're talking about bridging. Look at >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html >> >> Section 31.5.7.1 is what you're asking for. > > I don't think he wants to forward the traffic between those interfaces, > though; just dump them all together. I'm not sure, though. > You're right. > If I'm right, I don't think tcpdump can do that directly. One idea > might be to run a firewall to choose the packets and to forward a copy > to a dummy interface that can be monitored. > It might be an idea. Somehow I think it should be possible in a more simple way. Now reading 'man 4 lagg'... -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:54:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD091065675 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwebster@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916358FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwebster@es.net) Received: from dyn1-207.es.net (dyn1-207.es.net [198.128.1.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n39Gskbu001616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:54:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:54:46 -0700 From: John Webster To: Frederique Rijsdijk Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> References: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========2330C30EAA7B09D9C59B==========" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-04-09_14:2009-04-09, 2009-04-09, 2009-04-09 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:54:48 -0000 --==========2330C30EAA7B09D9C59B========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --On April 9, 2009 5:18:26 PM +0200 Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to > one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those > interfaces at once? > Take a look at netgraph. --==========2330C30EAA7B09D9C59B========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkneKFYACgkQBf+aYL5/Y60mvgCgzzO4TJwxFJ7sbnsmOIDT62Wc XcQAn1eCsF2CY/WWtHhtTdxGpmfe6WNn =eKcB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========2330C30EAA7B09D9C59B==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEF8106564A; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91A88FC0C; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LrxYR-0007on-D5>; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0200 Received: from e178015039.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.15.39] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LrxYR-0003Jm-9y>; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0200 Message-ID: <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:56:56 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090404) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Kientzle References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.15.39 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:56:45 -0000 Tim Kientzle wrote: > I saw something similar recently due to a mismatch > between hald and the xorg server. In my case, it > affected all applications, not just firefox. > * Are you running hald? hald is not running by default. > * Do you have "AllowEmptyInput" set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? It is explicitely set OFF/NO. > * Are you starting xdm, kdm, or gdm from /etc/ttys? Yes, xdm is started via /etc/ttys. > > Tim > > O. Hartmann wrote: >> Hello, >> got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates >> (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does >> have enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or >> popping up the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of >> 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of >> the ports. >> >> I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask >> for some hints.. >> >> Regards, >> Oliver >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:21:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714BA106567E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D128FC27 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39HL8Hh014804; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:21:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A8F885F98A; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3160B5F99D; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:21:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:21:00 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:20:35 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal Thread-Index: Acm5NIQ3zH9W+9A2STm7CGKhtiqa2wAAlBtA References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de><49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> From: "Gary Gatten" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 17:21:00.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D452AB0:01C9B937] Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:21:25 -0000 On FreeBSD 6.0. I have FreeRADIUS installed and functional. Trying to integrate with AD so trying to install SAMBA for the NTLM Auth functions. SAMBA installs failed with a problem with krb5. Finally got the make of krb5 to succeed, but the make install fails with error below. Tried removing heimdal but FreeRADIUS depends on it! Any help getting past this paradox would be GREATLY appreciated! I'm stuck right now and really don't want to uninstall FreeRADIUS.=20=20 =3D=3D=3D> Installing for krb5-1.6.3_5 =3D=3D=3D> krb5-1.6.3_5 conflicts with installed package(s): heimdal-1.0.1 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of O. Hartmann Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:57 AM To: Tim Kientzle Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org; O. Hartmann; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh Tim Kientzle wrote: > I saw something similar recently due to a mismatch > between hald and the xorg server. In my case, it > affected all applications, not just firefox. > * Are you running hald? hald is not running by default. > * Do you have "AllowEmptyInput" set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? It is explicitely set OFF/NO. > * Are you starting xdm, kdm, or gdm from /etc/ttys? Yes, xdm is started via /etc/ttys. > > Tim > > O. Hartmann wrote: >> Hello, >> got a problem since yesterday after having done a lot of updates >> (ports): on all of my FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 boxes firefox does >> have enormous high latencies when typing in or moving the mouse or >> popping up the window icon or down. Since this happens on all of >> 8.0-CUR/amd boxes, I guess it has something to do with an upgrade of >> the ports. >> >> I reinstalled firefox twice, but without success, so I want to ask >> for some hints.. >> >> Regards, >> Oliver >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BFA106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from kazon.borderworlds.dk (kazon.borderworlds.dk [213.239.213.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7F98FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from talaxian.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazon.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDADB1711A; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49DE2B94.1040605@borderworlds.dk> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:08:36 +0200 From: Christian Laursen Organization: The Border Worlds User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090328) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frederique Rijsdijk References: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> In-Reply-To: <49DE11C2.90503@isafeelin.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: combining network interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:26:21 -0000 Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > Is there a way in FreeBSD to combine a number of network interfaces to > one virtual interface on which I can tcpdump all the traffic of those > interfaces at once? pflog(4) might be a possibility. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:37:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51FD106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964D88FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n39Hbhxq054008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n39Hbhrp054007 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00444; Thu, 9 Apr 09 10:14:52 PDT Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:12:58 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:37:44 -0000 Trying here, after no answer on usb@ When I plug in the reader, I get (on the console): umass0: SDMMC M121 USB 2.0 SD/MMC READER, rev 2.00/2.01, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 1962MB (4019200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 250C) So far, so good, and it appears -- based on this excerpt from the mtoolstest output -- that mtools is configured to read /dev/da0 as b: drive B: #fn=1 mode=0 defined in /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf file="/dev/da0" fat_bits=0 tracks=0 heads=0 sectors=0 hidden=0 offset=0x0 partition=0 However, when I try to read it with mtools: $ mdir -a b: init B: non DOS media Cannot initialize 'B:' When I try to investigate using file: $ file -s /dev/da0 I get a very long pause, during which this appears on the console: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi status == 0x0 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT and the file command reports /dev/da0: ERROR: cannot read `/dev/da0' (Input/output error) Is there anything that can be done in the way of configuration adjustments, or is this reader just not usable on 6.1? USB part of dmesg.boot: uhci0: port 0xcce0-0xccff irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:54:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4340B1065706 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D078FC1F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so465847ywh.13 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=dc6SuNRJxBSkDIqNPNUAz/xUlPwPnQomAQSqpaDoTx0=; b=OgOGBphaS60CH3DvrcaPY4wj0u/4vad5jG9NjFbKc+fSrRjDVGiA/G9bAgnBr4a23K 7MudsuvDQVz3P7REHbIOoQXOET78/pY/cPS8KzWpAos8NO0C2pNDdJA+M4ObP2G6TRUS YLAzUfC2s2h7HEsW4rv/1+Jh4eL8H5Up8PBzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=hAa60YosT1SxnPEhYf3NbFGndS+4JHjwDChixlWzd3aVSFnjcKIMoI8SEyK74DbbbH IF/1O20nalEZPoRfqv71za0dhKXludyiMW7eJKkvNf9DH2i/IbqsL7Lkdn2VFOGeXjII /Bp0Zt0IT8p8K6MAeP//uSMyMpfie7x5uzPts= Received: by 10.90.113.11 with SMTP id l11mr3351748agc.2.1239299641221; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.206? ([189.123.213.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm701753aga.40.2009.04.09.10.53.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:52:47 -0300 Message-Id: <1239299567.12528.7.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: firefox3 with high latencies when acting with mouse or keyboard and graphics refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:54:02 -0000 Hello, try to login on xdm using "secure" or xterm option if not possible, shutdown xdm (in etc/ttys) make sure X is not running and at the console (vga) type xinit it will start a small window with noting but xterm start a window manager (twm&) in the window, type firefox... and see if it works ok... In the xterm window you will see firefox messages... look for something like "fam...." if it is the case, than you must start firefox within a more "sofisticated" DM (gdm, kdm...) if firefox works ok, so the problem is in the setup of the dm (xdm, gdm...) (I prefer gdm, version 1.8) if firefox does not work ok, the problem is with the X configureation, or firefox itsself, Try test with firefox2 Hope this will help, Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:59:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A54106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA28FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n39HxvO2038395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:59:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n39HxuVM073093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:59:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n39Hxs6T073092; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:59:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:59:54 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090409175954.GC90152@dan.emsphone.com> References: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:59:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:59:59 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 09), Jay Hall said: > When using the find command with the -exec option, does the find command > wait for the command being executed to finish before returning the next > result? > > For example, if I am using find -exec {} to copy files to tape, will find > wait for the command to write the file to tape complete before it returns > the next result? Since the find manpage says: -exec utility [argument ...] ; True if the program named utility returns a zero value as its exit status. ... It has to wait for completion to see the exit status. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:10:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F46106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B50E8FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39IA9rx048872; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:10:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 156D6BA9D; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:10:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:10:09 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:10:12 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:12:58AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Trying here, after no answer on usb@ >=20 > When I plug in the reader, I get (on the console): >=20 > umass0: SDMMC M121 USB 2.0 SD/MMC READER, rev 2.00/2.01, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0= device=20 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 1962MB (4019200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 250C) >=20 > So far, so good, and it appears -- based on this excerpt from the > mtoolstest output -- that mtools is configured to read /dev/da0 as b: >=20 > drive B: > #fn=3D1 mode=3D0 defined in /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf > file=3D"/dev/da0" fat_bits=3D0=20 > tracks=3D0 heads=3D0 sectors=3D0 hidden=3D0 > offset=3D0x0 > partition=3D0 >=20 > However, when I try to read it with mtools: >=20 > $ mdir -a b: > init B: non DOS media > Cannot initialize 'B:' =20 Are you sure that the drive isn't partitioned? In other words, if you plug in the drive, and you give the command 'ls /dev/da0*', do you only get /dev/da0 or perhaps also /dev/da0s1? If it is partitioned, try /dev/da0s? instead. Second, does the user running mtools have read and write access to the devi= ce? Have you tried just mounting the card reader? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkneOgEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX9sACfVspT2oTSEB7Jl400KH3Cns0S HA0AmgPlPzU3Q0H7D6lnNurkUyea9aiD =l8hh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:13:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38E5106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don_read@att.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 894CB8FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don_read@att.net) Received: (qmail 66326 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2009 17:47:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (don_read@74.235.228.26 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 17:47:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9.g5_g8VM1m1vTcKZs5mPaH850dXImjZmMpJWgWGSQCQR5fFeqB4dZawdQxNk8LvtH99G33PbUwrdXPDtZbFihRIaIL3_3ZiMgH4TDNnzCXuj1qw44S9.qleNANDB6sQOdsjIXz51puMQy.Kw6EjOb_hERsRQRyZ1iPny_DhiMFhBB2dCHsTOkSfpJBuJwnvByB.F1UzI1ofdS3zr3SEyD9qT8BrU5wffCxgCXw8LZn2Wu4xAaz9LxWSwhhB0u0q88m4jfM1Zkhxnwe1oZc0P2joheKgzlviwFAmw3MRMZj6nA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:59 -0400 From: Don Read To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:13:42 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:20:35 -0500 Gary Gatten said: > On FreeBSD 6.0. I have FreeRADIUS installed and functional. Trying to > integrate with AD so trying to install SAMBA for the NTLM Auth > functions. SAMBA installs failed with a problem with krb5. Finally got > the make of krb5 to succeed, but the make install fails with error > below. Tried removing heimdal but FreeRADIUS depends on it! Any help > getting past this paradox would be GREATLY appreciated! I'm stuck right > now and really don't want to uninstall FreeRADIUS. > > > ===> Installing for krb5-1.6.3_5 > > ===> krb5-1.6.3_5 conflicts with installed package(s): > heimdal-1.0.1 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. > 1. Stop hijacking threads. 2. man pkg_delete. Note the -f, --force argument. furrfu ... -- Don Read don_read@att.net It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you are going to steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:14:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5909510656C7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEB68FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so642836wfg.7 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TDuuTJFlBT+wwOEo9fdaLNtwGtJBaQ7Bvtf39hKMhtU=; b=Z/dwml5NXrFRhn6s2V3QogETTbd+eKQGt1HnTxSp1F7MkdNAXRQoR/TPGOwoYHIwdj WQFxgU4ETulc4ObCQq3pbrn6/Q6T1YzhXwuGQCxGuS6OPmROf3aTy9Y5hQ0WMTlLMycW EQ+faeuWuppIFn973wf9HBpQUFBgcnhKXE1js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h369HVAxPbGGu90hnkeSwknBSMq1z+DAgG0AaZRJ6OHzHa1E0Oieg9OhqlNhw7irPv Q1dsi1hwqG5Fg9CKGQf0H1W4mI3bd57tW69JKcElFV9OkFV5phYqYqW4qgP1VO6Rc1R4 hyHL+z/tJ9p3b/494GqYp+/GGjZEhpvCAcEuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.230.11 with SMTP id c11mr946829wfh.246.1239300885686; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> References: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:14:45 -0400 Message-ID: <8cb6106e0904091114y73189738g3eea1d562bf3188@mail.gmail.com> From: Josh Carroll To: Jay Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:14:46 -0000 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Jay Hall wrote: > When using the find command with the -exec option, does the find command > wait for the command being executed to finish before returning the next > result? > > For example, if I am using find -exec {} to copy files to tape, will find > wait for the command to write the file to tape complete before it returns > the next result? It has to wait. It's easily verified by creating a simple script: #!/bin/sh echo "My args were: $*" sleep 1 Then: find /some/path -exec /path/to/f.sh {} \; You'll see: My args were: /some/path/a (1 second delay) My args were: /some/path/b (1 second delay) ... Regards, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:21:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325FF106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C688FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39ILNRA018499; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AB2B15F9B2; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BDC5F9AC; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:21 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:21:07 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal Thread-Index: Acm5PwAiLPNlhxPjQgSVyDRQK+hdZQAAG0Bg References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de><49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org><49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de><70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Don Read" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 18:21:21.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBBA0440:01C9B93F] Cc: Subject: RE: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:21:50 -0000 This is a new thread, so not sure what you mean? Maybe my other posts re. new package system? Unintentional hijack - just venting, sorry. I'm aware of the pkg_delete -f; but I don't want to break FreeRADIUS. This will process involves getting FreeRADIUS hooked into AD, and one method I'm looking into is the SAMBA / NTLM thing. SAMBA won't install unless krb5 is "happy". Do I need to force heimdal removal, install krb5, reinstall heimdal and HOPE it works and nothing breaks in the process? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Don Read Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:20:35 -0500 Gary Gatten said: > On FreeBSD 6.0. I have FreeRADIUS installed and functional. Trying to > integrate with AD so trying to install SAMBA for the NTLM Auth > functions. SAMBA installs failed with a problem with krb5. Finally got > the make of krb5 to succeed, but the make install fails with error > below. Tried removing heimdal but FreeRADIUS depends on it! Any help > getting past this paradox would be GREATLY appreciated! I'm stuck right > now and really don't want to uninstall FreeRADIUS.=20=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for krb5-1.6.3_5 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> krb5-1.6.3_5 conflicts with installed package(s): > heimdal-1.0.1 >=20 > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/security/krb5. >=20 1. Stop hijacking threads. 2. man pkg_delete.=20 Note the -f, --force argument. furrfu ... --=20 Don Read don_read@att.net It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you are going to steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:25:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C06106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC848FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHU008LOJ6NB230@asmtp015.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Gary Gatten In-reply-to: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:25:35 -0700 References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:25:38 -0000 On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: > This is a new thread, so not sure what you mean? Maybe my other posts > re. new package system? Unintentional hijack - just venting, sorry. > > I'm aware of the pkg_delete -f; but I don't want to break FreeRADIUS. > This will process involves getting FreeRADIUS hooked into AD, and one > method I'm looking into is the SAMBA / NTLM thing. SAMBA won't > install > unless krb5 is "happy". > > Do I need to force heimdal removal, install krb5, reinstall heimdal > and > HOPE it works and nothing breaks in the process? Nope. FreeRADIUS' Makefile claims to support both Heimdal and Kerberos5, but you have to choose one or the other via the options ("make config"): > .ifdef(WITH_KERBEROS) > .ifdef(WITH_HEIMDAL) > LIB_DEPENDS+= krb5.23:${PORTSDIR}/security/heimdal > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--enable-heimdal-krb5 > .else > LIB_DEPENDS+= krb5.3:${PORTSDIR}/security/krb5 > .endif Likewise with Samba: > .if defined(WITH_ADS) > SAMBA_WANT_LDAP= yes > SAMBA_WANT_KRB5= yes > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-ads > .else > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --without-ads > .endif > # Kerberos5 is necessary for ADS > .if defined(SAMBA_WANT_KRB5) > .if defined(KRB5_HOME) && exists(${KRB5_HOME}/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-krb5="${KRB5_HOME}" > .elif defined(HEIMDAL_HOME) && exists(${HEIMDAL_HOME}/lib/ > libgssapi.so) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-krb5="${HEIMDAL_HOME}" > .elif exists(/usr/lib/libkrb5.so) && exists(/usr/bin/krb5-config) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-krb5="/usr" > .else > LIB_DEPENDS+= krb5:${PORTSDIR}/security/heimdal > CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --with-krb5="${LOCALBASE}" > .endif Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:30:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB537106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917628FC1F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39IU1ji024873; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:30:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id EBB317B1A4; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0447B196; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:29:34 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95C@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal Thread-Index: Acm5QKYLrdO6bGurQWuEgpZm/sy7VwAADs0w References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 18:29:34.0077 (UTC) FILETIME=[2160BAD0:01C9B941] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:30:28 -0000 This actually makes a little sense - thanks for the pointers! G BTW: Is top posting bad? I prefer top posts, but if the list doesn't like it I'll change. I'll find the rules and read them! -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:26 PM To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions - Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: > This is a new thread, so not sure what you mean? Maybe my other posts > re. new package system? Unintentional hijack - just venting, sorry. > > I'm aware of the pkg_delete -f; but I don't want to break FreeRADIUS. > This will process involves getting FreeRADIUS hooked into AD, and one > method I'm looking into is the SAMBA / NTLM thing. SAMBA won't=20=20 > install > unless krb5 is "happy". > > Do I need to force heimdal removal, install krb5, reinstall heimdal=20=20 > and > HOPE it works and nothing breaks in the process? Nope. FreeRADIUS' Makefile claims to support both Heimdal and=20=20 Kerberos5, but you have to choose one or the other via the options=20=20 ("make config"): > .ifdef(WITH_KERBEROS) > .ifdef(WITH_HEIMDAL) > LIB_DEPENDS+=3D krb5.23:${PORTSDIR}/security/heimdal > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D--enable-heimdal-krb5 > .else > LIB_DEPENDS+=3D krb5.3:${PORTSDIR}/security/krb5 > .endif Likewise with Samba: > .if defined(WITH_ADS) > SAMBA_WANT_LDAP=3D yes > SAMBA_WANT_KRB5=3D yes > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --with-ads > .else > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --without-ads > .endif > # Kerberos5 is necessary for ADS > .if defined(SAMBA_WANT_KRB5) > .if defined(KRB5_HOME) && exists(${KRB5_HOME}/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --with-krb5=3D"${KRB5_HOME}" > .elif defined(HEIMDAL_HOME) && exists(${HEIMDAL_HOME}/lib/=20 > libgssapi.so) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --with-krb5=3D"${HEIMDAL_HOME}" > .elif exists(/usr/lib/libkrb5.so) && exists(/usr/bin/krb5-config) > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --with-krb5=3D"/usr" > .else > LIB_DEPENDS+=3D krb5:${PORTSDIR}/security/heimdal > CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D --with-krb5=3D"${LOCALBASE}" > .endif Regards, --=20 -Chuck
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:41:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4188D106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mheitm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12088FC26 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mheitm@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so719228bwz.43 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:41:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WAa2M/A1NOzjeoskwuRKFspVhUol1cmYEmWc+A2fjao=; b=Hw5nK0+Mt+Au+Sv9Uw2KD4y5WujpOgbNnPkQDPShHReoQuZ1/RyrVYPKScH7Me+0BY BNkCFAbfw2QXpc/wT+k8l+zTxn/pIqlDBqvMLrxxVNTTkGo6Ts6zOLMglwADxAZltXfv Xnm9+Br/PI2m9CT7QL186qJ0kZ6O5WWgUviw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M525449G1dmPEZvd50Xzf3Up0lylINaqJfhIjKAdH8jSyJzmwqCIDrkedcUlxJ5vPX LqbFQdz8/A/pO+RdMepcMTe9WpwcX+2TeRxAbOdldAQ5kJLkwE269tfRf9PeW+fxVDry L3CDhtUMM/nOEPHbn39dFr042g9lW1oK+eV+A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.139 with SMTP id t11mr890366fao.11.1239300861307; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:14:21 +0200 Message-ID: <179292290904091114wcb86c40q1d394c18c7fe333b@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Heitmeier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Error Message when starting Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:41:25 -0000 After installing Apache 2.2 it does not start and apachectl start fails with the error message /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "xchgptr" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.3" Searching on the Web and archives did not reveal anything, please let me know how to resolve this, thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:53:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5416A1065706 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout016.mac.com (asmtpout016.mac.com [17.148.16.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DCF8FC22 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp016.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHU00H95KGXJ950@asmtp016.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <33DDA874-7A10-4B50-B97E-37356758ED2F@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Gary Gatten In-reply-to: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95C@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:53:21 -0700 References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95C@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:53:23 -0000 On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: > This actually makes a little sense - thanks for the pointers! > > G > > BTW: Is top posting bad? I prefer top posts, but if the list doesn't > like it I'll change. I'll find the rules and read them! Top posting is widely considered bad on the FreeBSD lists, yes. Note that Kerberos is a complicated, many-headed beast and not just in the mythological sense. You might have an easier time if you choose which flavor you want to use, and then maybe add WITH_KERBEROS=yes and/ or WITH_HEIMDAL=yes to /etc/make.conf, before firing off the tree of builds-- that will help the various ports and options screens figure out which one you wanted to use more consistently. However, it looks like Samba is looking for HEIMDAL_HOME or KRB5_HOME to be defined instead of using the standard WITH_ flags; arguably, the port maintainer dwcjr@ should be checking the WITH_ flags instead. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:00:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC710656FA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D9B8FC21 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39J0Spa019980; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:00:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FA0C5F9BB; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CE25F9B9; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:00:27 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <33DDA874-7A10-4B50-B97E-37356758ED2F@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal Thread-Index: Acm5RJB2CwNeMGnfTPC6dfOE1cr40gAAI5Qw References: <49DCA9E0.6000109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <49DD0A57.7020701@freebsd.org> <49DE28D8.1020508@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E957@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090409134659.58922787@att.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E95C@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <33DDA874-7A10-4B50-B97E-37356758ED2F@mac.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2009 19:00:27.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[723E5760:01C9B945] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:00:45 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:53 PM To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install krb5 conflict with heimdal On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: > This actually makes a little sense - thanks for the pointers! > > G > > BTW: Is top posting bad? I prefer top posts, but if the list doesn't > like it I'll change. I'll find the rules and read them! Top posting is widely considered bad on the FreeBSD lists, yes. Note that Kerberos is a complicated, many-headed beast and not just in=20= =20 the mythological sense. You might have an easier time if you choose=20=20 which flavor you want to use, and then maybe add WITH_KERBEROS=3Dyes and/= =20 or WITH_HEIMDAL=3Dyes to /etc/make.conf, before firing off the tree of=20= =20 builds-- that will help the various ports and options screens figure=20=20 out which one you wanted to use more consistently. However, it looks like Samba is looking for HEIMDAL_HOME or KRB5_HOME=20=20 to be defined instead of using the standard WITH_ flags; arguably, the=20= =20 port maintainer dwcjr@ should be checking the WITH_ flags instead. Regards, --=20 -Chuck OK, no more top posting. Got past the krb5 build and back to SAMBA with a new error in clikrb5.c. Time to try a package again! libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `krb5_set_real_time': libsmb/clikrb5.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type libsmb/clikrb5.c:133: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `create_kerberos_key_from_string_direct': libsmb/clikrb5.c:244: error: syntax error before "salt" libsmb/clikrb5.c:246: error: `salt' undeclared (first use in this function) libsmb/clikrb5.c:246: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once libsmb/clikrb5.c:246: error: for each function it appears in.) libsmb/clikrb5.c: In function `smb_krb5_renew_ticket': libsmb/clikrb5.c:1301: error: syntax error before "flags" libsmb/clikrb5.c:1302: error: `krb5_realm' undeclared (first use in this function) libsmb/clikrb5.c:1302: error: `client_realm' undeclared (first use in this function) libsmb/clikrb5.c:1327: error: `flags' undeclared (first use in this function) The following command failed: cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -Iinclude -I./include -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./lib/tdb/include -I./libaddns -I./librpc -I./popt -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -O -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33/work/samba-3.3.3/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3D3 -fPIC -DPIC -c libsmb/clikrb5.c -o libsmb/clikrb5.o gmake: *** [libsmb/clikrb5.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33/samba33. wanmon1#
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:09:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35AB106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7A428FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30365 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2009 18:43:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239302588; bh=FxZj/46M/a7LVDqwvCwwGIytVZ26RiEbV1Jw9zmPCDU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XrBqaeNCmU41X88L9UC3qLzbvj4HpbsGgMcVDmYErOM8zGBIbxtpDVnqb22GkQ4KQslcn/wsBk/yZR3KxB7A2TQxPgGOyfuC4BGq3+GOORb/mYumo8xZHbju+umUnYGP5OxlFjxt6W0Kl33QQt7N9aI7yFYmc4QUybwVjhW/59o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uKXc9pW18I+9FMKvfymSq8dxaz1/3MslXGb+pJtalsDgMqTGFwWQYDUazmQYeZCOXh2QlaumjMy5XBhA5jTmleZGpIJGnVUltdHXR1TyHOCh8XuQxw8CLScRihbKt5REHKAI2vMKJuaeAMF6OQpuxpZJJNRobPp8sw/Vn/HF7tM=; Message-ID: <848751.28828.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NldM4k8VM1nVq4.F8emPd61HNghpHmoTbkAcTzTjtJkAteua87Iw3fIQmmSh5MWcVkIqdsBHHmsGVqIFqjIj8setahfK2uaamHgWHkhtRPxH4kmxkkQree8e.RfGSRnyuBZv2gbMgtUAiJJolgUuJZgr1KL8Z6E8IJbyZMdlAyxFQq_bydJo5WXijCl0HkAVx3842N.ttmLJWvpXA.B4C_a3OVLReVVaF4TWqfR54ueR6bvbJBPdBBDx7ijf8wS0dKTxpDzsjJYJ5w4dWMb73qGFxv3u7UQZ1.3CODxYiw_2jSwvByAl Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:43:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: memtest question on 8 GB RAM AMD64 system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:09:50 -0000 Dear freebsd people, I have just installed 4 x 2gb kingston memory banks (Kingston HyperX 4GB 80= 0mhz DDR2 Non-ECC CL5 (5-5-5-15) DIMM) onto my AMD 64 system with a X2 5200= CPU. The motherboard I have in this system is MSI K9AG Neo2-Digital. The system boots fine and I wanted to try memtest to see if there would be = errors. So I installed that /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest port and did=20 # memtest 2400 The output I got is: Continuing with unlocked memory; testing will be slower and less reliable. ....... pagesize 4096 pagesizemask is 0xfffffffffffff000 want 2400MB (2516582400 bytes) got=A0=A0 2400MB (2516582400 bytes), trying mlock .......failed for unknown= reason Loop 1: ..... In my /etc/rc/conf file I had added these lines in the past (when I had 4gb= RAM installed in it) sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmmax=3D1954311424 sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmall=3D238000 What is the case here? Why is memtest failing to use mlock? How can I event= ually make sure I can run memtest with 8000mb?=20 The purpose of this machine is that it will be used for a various data inte= nsive tasks where I need to be able to allocate as much memory possible. I = am running a postgresql database server on it as well to store my source da= ta. Brgds Dino =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:12:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A80D106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgimer@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83538FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgimer@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so522755qwb.7 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RfH2ZwwFbI9ki7mAkWZuM+qgLstqYwtgMBrwBJcXUBg=; b=cwy18Sofdz60C5W646fu5R1DizwF1w1KOZ4kr7BRE0LWeJ+34YtgEJtVqUIwfkygwv hOwJM7CdTXy0SaHlA5aWEvbipELckqqHEi/fuDpyyWZWRge/Gu9ouKsSzwZMENi5YzAr mrkrwGIHURaWfhrDl0//nkk7ny5lu1pvgCyb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HSkGCE3JRJ4yhB9d0lZAiBiXF1c52RzRk/PSw0uSOaDOM4tZzhsrmI3/TxRnhYwKZC Ks57JJ7kZ7IaSuKxBZ01Sq4HzY1HGb8LbbaLJ+UPtQhgKDCzveIdnOYXm4b3AEkU2xRl TDy+u6E2Au3aH5nVdaCZwVA9XEwY8YMBvDodo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.5 with SMTP id w5mr975879qcn.100.1239304375314; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> References: <20090408142932.695c07ce@summersault.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:12:55 -0600 Message-ID: From: Joshua Gimer To: Mark Stosberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering loss of /var/db/pkg ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:12:56 -0000 You could try to recover the file from the disk if it has not been reallocated using something like The Sleuth Kit: http://www.sleuthkit.org/ You can use fls to find the location of the file on the disk and then icat to recover. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Mark Stosberg wrote= : > > I'll just say it plainly: > > /var/db/pkg is long gone and there is no backup. It was not copied to > new a machine. > > Is there is any hope of being able to use the ports or packages system in= a > meangingful way again? > > My sense is that some recovery is possible, but may be prohibitively expe= nsive. > > Thanks for any tips! > > =A0 Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 Thx Joshua Gimer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:26:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0C8106567A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgimer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f134.google.com (mail-qy0-f134.google.com [209.85.221.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA828FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgimer@gmail.com) Received: by qyk40 with SMTP id 40so1383514qyk.3 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EuH95hSIwiVfq28zzql/Mz2c1Y2zpdAB8R+ducn43n0=; b=yE3lSuFbY5ZpwZch2SVZswa1OUb68/YBbAERg4LOD8gV1EZnE65Vyvrv3jyzo7KUho iRgmg9Dk3bc3T7emZKT33ZS7dJ5G/vNRRB3//hbiyBL4tWLjY00pQ5tc6nEgiHEqablx cYKCzwaCZCOPfgzWdVHiMwtmD3dRsK21GrXlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JGJBdNB9rqWQ0IQ8ZIze4kYkEuUZFQNIqaZW5jp/WVDZn4ucbP2r4QJGcML1/TK9Dv bMfh+twupyqDoXb4js1taFZf3alwxkHd7xtcFFrgVsm+t5bXTkoKZ6Ms+QbxAwAQFFPs f6Q99jwN87xgaxNy68mek4JP+gXNhsFtKxCOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.140 with SMTP id x12mr1037891qck.35.1239305211245; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:26:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> References: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:26:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: Joshua Gimer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:26:52 -0000 You might also find a little bit information about what the process is waiting on by attaching to it with strace (in ports under devel) (strace -p PID). On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Eray Aslan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: >> I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : >> # ps -jaxw | grep mount >> root =A0 60342 =A0 =A0 1 60289 60289 =A0 =A00 D =A0 =A0 ?? =A0 =A00:00.0= 0 mount_nfs > [...] >> How to I get this process killed? > > reboot. =A0You can't kill a process with a D flag. =A0Google for > uninterruptible sleep. > > -- > Eray > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 Thx Joshua Gimer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:40:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC78106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CEC8FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so671134wfg.7 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:40:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pDRAoG8iljyqVc5whRLy3/6tcmFYVfc/h8de4IAdP7M=; b=DFjRHNrV4n0AH7i2ovuyisdDvH2aCNQrWNf3LyDfqSKffy9ZERc/Vbiw15xheIyeuZ 2Ya2xsoiQpfyqk0I2zuGksEksOGopdOuYgD0Wy80YM69dAEzu6R4rsUSzCEL4G7BJmgM vy/Ozj9Q5QJYWDy1D+P2rrJPTcGYXSvor4ugk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SfMi+GC7HFvF6lenzQBr8S3vTs2n9I/aiY6l78QJOeAbDcYCSiM2sqA6SnZCgiKQU3 b7a+23TYUcLsJaXtL9oKvGtqih7D0MP0yFg5Hlk19RUY2s+JeZzdNXUKv79SuPGvjeIr Fqe9Li0KniV4oTk9cmx2yEfyrpOUAMY1Bnm1U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.144.16 with SMTP id r16mr970048wfd.214.1239306010702; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:40:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <848751.28828.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <848751.28828.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:40:10 -0400 Message-ID: <8cb6106e0904091240w240f84f0tbdeab643a87bf959@mail.gmail.com> From: Josh Carroll To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memtest question on 8 GB RAM AMD64 system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:40:11 -0000 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Dino Vliet wrote: > Dear freebsd people, > > I have just installed 4 x 2gb kingston memory banks (Kingston HyperX 4GB = 800mhz DDR2 Non-ECC CL5 (5-5-5-15) DIMM) onto my AMD 64 system with a X2 52= 00 CPU. The motherboard I have in this system is MSI K9AG Neo2-Digital. > > The system boots fine and I wanted to try memtest to see if there would b= e errors. So I installed that /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest port and did > > # memtest 2400 > > The output I got is: > Continuing with unlocked memory; testing will be slower and less reliable= . > > ....... > pagesize 4096 > pagesizemask is 0xfffffffffffff000 > want 2400MB (2516582400 bytes) > got=A0=A0 2400MB (2516582400 bytes), trying mlock .......failed for unkno= wn reason > Loop 1: > ..... > > In my /etc/rc/conf file I had added these lines in the past (when I had 4= gb RAM installed in it) > > sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmmax=3D1954311424 > sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmall=3D238000 > > What is the case here? Why is memtest failing to use mlock? How can I eve= ntually make sure I can run memtest with 8000mb? > > The purpose of this machine is that it will be used for a various data in= tensive tasks where I need to be able to allocate as much memory possible. = I am running a postgresql database server on it as well to store my source = data. I've run into similar problems trying to use that particular memtest port. If you want to more reliably test the memory, I'd suggest using memtest86+ from http://www.memtest.org/ It is much more thorough and runs independent of the operating system. Regards, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:53:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16E41065673 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7798F8FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so675126wfg.7 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gFIdQfLpNLpdxCFiCH6QSFq36eUWVX5YzUVFW9U8pwE=; b=GhHk9Dq0rOsUrpagbzb9Vt76MxNLLl/9/5u2Ol4VC8i3kTVyY4eNzWTbsRM1lulLa/ SPgQimjs7M/ftztshR6bFyypdQOj45hnsfsyymZZ0P8XOMvUbJqZymxKguaBZQ+5tmfE atPU7eSRsx4dmkRnd1BjSTy5K2dDhUOEq6Zjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dtv98cJilTssk+vSQ6ZwEcg6Iu96kilUg2oMwv+75jlWM6gG+E7auKurzIKFmg6Vi6 LLumUQdgqOKmuH2jGFaUWrCHGenwfJSIMqQMhIQtBVZCJla0b/5J3GZ9OKrS3a/6a4Sb o9XHFnpyQSFlseBvA4fV8zPO1As9Mv5TV/zuU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.7.5 with SMTP id k5mr976720wfi.176.1239306789042; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90904091253i398dc4cfvfdb98f3731e6b3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: flex from ports kills buildworld? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:53:10 -0000 Probably doing something stupid, but on the off chance I'm not: - Had to install a newer flex from ports for something. - Had to move the system flex to avoid hacking reams of bad makefiles - Did a buildworld, and it can't find a flex - Seems to me, buildworld should be able to use a newer flex, and should be able to use the one from /usr/local instead of /sbin Thanks, Steve [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ sudo make buildworld ... flex -ogengtype-lex.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gengtype-lex.l flex:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ which flex /usr/local/bin/flex [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:57:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACAB106566C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from smtp0.beanfield.net (smtp0.beanfield.net [66.207.192.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D638FC1A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from brent.local ([66.207.193.249]) by smtp0.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n39JgZvM034060 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:42:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Message-ID: <49DE4FE8.8090303@beanfield.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:43:36 -0400 From: Brent Bloxam Organization: Beanfield Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DAC610.6020404@pixelhammer.com> <5C4F1A401C316B7D2F625CCF@Macintosh-2.local> <49DB4D3E.3070301@pixelhammer.com> <200904081117.58218.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200904081117.58218.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Multiple instances of MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:57:56 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > Any reason a jail can't be used? This would allow sharing the binary using > null or union fs, little overhead, yet seperated from host install and no > maintenance of port installed files, like rc.d/mysql-server. Unionfs, unix sockets and flush operations don't like each other from what I know, so make sure your database directory and socket aren't going to be located on a unionfs mount and you should be okay. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I definitely haven't been able to get MySQL to play nice with unionfs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 20:13:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B6C106564A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3F8FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n39KDVQa076595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n39KDVCo076594; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00911; Thu, 9 Apr 09 12:49:17 PDT Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:47:23 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: rsmith@xs4all.nl Message-Id: <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:13:32 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > Are you sure that the drive isn't partitioned? In other words, > if you plug in the drive, and you give the command 'ls /dev/da0*', > do you only get /dev/da0 or perhaps also /dev/da0s1? If it is > partitioned, try /dev/da0s? instead. It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be partitioned; but yes, it is: $ ls -l /dev/da0* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 > Second, does the user running mtools have read and write access > to the device? Read-only, which should be sufficient for mdir. The card is, deliberately, write-protected. After reconfiguring mtools to read from /dev/da0s1, I started getting those umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT messages again, but I can read it a sector at a time using dd: $ dd if=/dev/da0 of=~/sd bs=1b That's been running for something like 45 minutes now, and based on the size of the output file it has read about a tenth of the card. It looks as if the problem arises only when attempting to read larger blocks. (I haven't tried to find out how much larger.) > Have you tried just mounting the card reader? No, because I'd expect to panic the system if it is not in fact a valid (and readable) FAT filesystem. Mtools seems much safer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 22:00:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D432106566B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davstrenio@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3698B8FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davstrenio@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dN2n1b0050bG4ec56ZmxBn; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:46:57 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.200] ([75.69.80.112]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dZmu1b00u2RPf6r3PZmvyU; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:46:55 +0000 Message-Id: From: David Strenio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:47:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: {Classmates#889-142}read it immediately X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:00:44 -0000 Please unsubscribe me from all your emails. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:20:51 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:47:23PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > Are you sure that the drive isn't partitioned? In other words, > > if you plug in the drive, and you give the command 'ls /dev/da0*', > > do you only get /dev/da0 or perhaps also /dev/da0s1? If it is > > partitioned, try /dev/da0s? instead. >=20 > It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be > partitioned; but yes, it is: >=20 > $ ls -l /dev/da0* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 That would suggest that there is a filesystem on there, doesn't it? =20 > > Second, does the user running mtools have read and write access > > to the device? >=20 > Read-only, which should be sufficient for mdir. The card is, > deliberately, write-protected. >=20 > After reconfiguring mtools to read from /dev/da0s1, I started > getting those umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > messages again, but I can read it a sector at a time using dd: Try running unplugging the device, run 'camcontrol rescan all' and plug it in again. Then wait until the devices show up. > $ dd if=3D/dev/da0 of=3D~/sd bs=3D1b >=20 > That's been running for something like 45 minutes now, and based on > the size of the output file it has read about a tenth of the card. Reading one byte at a time is bound to be slow. It could be that this USB chipset needs some "quirks" to work correctly. There are some really crappy USB chipsets out there. E.g. I've had trouble with prolific controllers, especially on older (single core) machines. If you are in a position to do so, you could try the new USB stack in 8-CURRENT.=20 > > Have you tried just mounting the card reader? >=20 > No, because I'd expect to panic the system if it is not in fact a > valid (and readable) FAT filesystem. Mtools seems much safer. I can't recall mount_msdosfs ever panicing the kernel on me in that case. It usually just fails. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknedL8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW3pwCfUwKX6ysftpIi939Q95DCpTsv IhQAoJnuewM54lLxpVZAKD0yEfJ1yT54 =Yc7r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 22:38:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A881065673 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559C8FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-108-192.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.108.192]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADCA16C03CF; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n39MbxBk001394; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:38:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:37:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20090410003759.dede9c9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rsmith@xs4all.nl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:38:08 -0000 On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:47:23 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be > partitioned; but yes, it is: > > $ ls -l /dev/da0* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 Why don't you expect this? As far as I know, if something is msdosfs-formatted (read: any "Windows" readable file system, FAT), it always involves a "slice device". I never found a situation where access to /dev/da0 would work. You can always check any partitioning with # fdisk da0 which prints out a partition table. In your case, the card in the reader will have one DOS partition which is to be accessed via the "slice device". The same is usually true for USB sticks, digital cameras (umass+da) and MP3 players. As long as you don't format them with UFS, you'll always find the situation described above. You can easily get rid of it by # newfs /dev/da0 but don't expect "Windows" to be able to read it afterwards. :-) > Read-only, which should be sufficient for mdir. The card is, > deliberately, write-protected. Okay, that should not interference any reading process. > After reconfiguring mtools to read from /dev/da0s1, I started > getting those umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > messages again, [...] This indicates that the card reader (and mostly not the card itself) is using non-standard compliant chipsets. I had a crappy MP3 player which didn't work on older FreeBSD versions, but does today. I could not access it - the same situation as you described it. That is no failure of FreeBSD, it's simply the fact that the manufacturer of the card drive produced crap. > [...] but I can read it a sector at a time using dd: > > $ dd if=/dev/da0 of=~/sd bs=1b > > That's been running for something like 45 minutes now, and based on > the size of the output file it has read about a tenth of the card. > > It looks as if the problem arises only when attempting to read > larger blocks. (I haven't tried to find out how much larger.) As it has been explained, it's completely normal that it is so slow. > > Have you tried just mounting the card reader? > > No, because I'd expect to panic the system if it is not in fact a > valid (and readable) FAT filesystem. Mtools seems much safer. Don't worry. Especially for diagnostics it's useful first to try the system's tools, and then third-party software (mtools). # mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da0s1 /mnt # ls -R /mnt That should work. In any case, remember to unmount the card before ejecting it. To the system, the situation is similar to removing a hard disk without any warning - not good. :-) # umount /mnt If problems seem to slow down or stop the CAM subsystem, you can always use # camcontrol rescan all to let the system update what's on the "SCSI bus". In most cases, you won't see any system panics. It *may* happen when you're pulling the card out of the drive while writing on it. Just imagine it was a regular hard disk - does the system encourage you to do so? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 01:33:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2300106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6658D8FC1F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from shell.eskimo.com (root@shell.eskimo.com [204.122.16.72]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3A1MWl0032013; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:22:32 -0700 Received: from shell.eskimo.com (joji@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3A1MafH002503; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:22:36 -0700 Received: (from joji@localhost) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.12.10/Submit) id n3A1MaXg002502; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:22:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:22:35 -0700 From: Joseph Olatt To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20090410012235.GA2328@shell.eskimo.com> References: <539c60b90904091253i398dc4cfvfdb98f3731e6b3c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90904091253i398dc4cfvfdb98f3731e6b3c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: flex from ports kills buildworld? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:33:45 -0000 On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:53:09PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > Probably doing something stupid, but on the off chance I'm not: > > - Had to install a newer flex from ports for something. > - Had to move the system flex to avoid hacking reams of bad makefiles > - Did a buildworld, and it can't find a flex > - Seems to me, buildworld should be able to use a newer flex, and > should be able to use the one from /usr/local instead of /sbin > > Thanks, > Steve > > [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ sudo make buildworld > ... > flex -ogengtype-lex.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gengtype-lex.l > flex:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ which flex > /usr/local/bin/flex > [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ It appears that your flex in /usr/local/bin is not being found. It is possible that PATH for the build environment does not contain /usr/local/bin probably in order to have a controlled build environment. Why don't you temporarily do: ln -s /usr/local/bin/flex /usr/bin/flex and see if that works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 01:39:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51D1106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44D128FC30 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10378 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Apr 2009 01:38:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239327539; bh=wMmYua+WajQ4VikFpY2YpnONAK5QhDubrySfu6h+o+8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gGxyxsQgAZbzUch5GJCTIf95/m+/0Y3/KM/TVgvnEXrxJV/yZBfdaK2iRphH31Kk2jI3WDQbPaD16gHTCJtgvpVyaWR8ueYnNW5IgefV+OwlSE09yfu0a2N9YkLpGkAJXv3ykxAUONKUNbrXEBK6w8hznn6ID1YBJBuHKZyCpMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BONntWtYsg3Ca94yGiw5XdZHtXmasWgRmcdcbHLhnQE/vVf6tUWGnU+JvuI1RsAZtjBw5uf8Rq5dpKnvKd3g+vPwMYCVneyzNF8N+L7SiZoanHuAIzLgvxMvukIstot456je8Fdci3884gcmIZMn0lCeAtsKX9SqannqsrDw0fo=; Message-ID: <613186.9342.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6XoFZXIVM1lXjLRQKt.Er3X4zm3kogNwTZqVvUIp7u0o8aiv4JUlfBOhortSUwwkcY.mOtAAkRu1FRNEUeK0UzeGOjQC50QW3PWCY3jbdtOMsZtarSiRLPawcRTxYLbfRerKoKgibtZUecczV6T0JVk5MEpC6NgRFSOQhmZywfBzvl_xwomANB5oQX1k.TyB_srKDxg_2NXaLA0Tq9qRPQdA78uW11RxiqYhAWncTtErE5kErfbO7jBGtfoXfv3pe6L07cC.O9PcQNDar3EV7JgJhQFQFiYv.EOQ6JIpJv0QJoIB9EdC2yhMQ6FICLQjyYA0y2mWJnhXLfEYe27jEQ-- Received: from [98.169.13.4] by web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:38:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sqlite3 won't install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:39:01 -0000 hi all: for portupgrade, one of packages, sqlite3 just won't install, even i tried to install it manually: /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 sqlite3.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig libtool: install: error: cannot install `libtclsqlite3.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/tcl8.4/sqlite3 *** Error code 1 how could i fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 02:02:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF35106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0268FC1C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2009 22:02:04 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KTV51343; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2009 22:01:10 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18910.43109.695259.829046@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:01:09 -0400 To: ipfreak@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <613186.9342.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <613186.9342.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: sqlite3 won't install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:02:05 -0000 gahn writes: > for portupgrade, one of packages, sqlite3 just won't install, > even i tried to install it manually: > > /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 sqlite3.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libtclsqlite3.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/tcl8.4/sqlite3 > *** Error code 1 > > how could i fix this? Unset the "TCLWRAPPER" option. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 02:33:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38630106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968458FC1D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3A2URbP062252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:30:27 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3A2XaA9027207; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:33:36 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:33:36 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904100233.n3A2XaA9027207@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Open Office X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:33:39 -0000 Hi, I just installed Open Office (openoffice.org-2.4.2_1) from the ports on a new 6.4 amd64 machine. It installed fine, but whenever I start it, it comes back asking me for the user set-up. (same thing with OpenOffice 3 from the ports). When I try to save a document it pops-up: General Input/ouput error while accessing /my/file/name and creates an empty file. What could be the reason? TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 02:46:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC7C106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00388FC20 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3A2h9jp063050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:43:09 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3A2kHUI019892; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:46:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:46:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904100246.n3A2kHUI019892@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200904100233.n3A2XaA9027207@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (message from Olivier Nicole on Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:33:36 +0700 (ICT)) References: <200904100233.n3A2XaA9027207@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Open Office X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:46:20 -0000 Hi, Sorry I should have searched around before asking :( > I just installed Open Office (openoffice.org-2.4.2_1) from the ports > on a new 6.4 amd64 machine. > > It installed fine, but whenever I start it, it comes back asking me > for the user set-up. (same thing with OpenOffice 3 from the ports). > > When I try to save a document it pops-up: General Input/ouput error > while accessing /my/file/name and creates an empty file. > > What could be the reason? With NFS mounted file system, must run rpc.lockd and rpc.statd on the NFS server. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 02:50:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07106106568A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D158FC1A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2009 22:50:00 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KTV56140; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2009 22:50:00 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18910.46039.167404.901066@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:49:59 -0400 To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200904100233.n3A2XaA9027207@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200904100233.n3A2XaA9027207@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Open Office X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:50:01 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: > I just installed Open Office (openoffice.org-2.4.2_1) from the ports > on a new 6.4 amd64 machine. > > It installed fine, but whenever I start it, it comes back asking me > for the user set-up. (same thing with OpenOffice 3 from the ports). > > When I try to save a document it pops-up: General Input/ouput error > while accessing /my/file/name and creates an empty file. I recently installed OOo-3 on i386, and get the second error but not the first, Specifically, I cannot Save but can Save As. I am willing to do reasonable testing (modulo a rebuild taking 30+ hours) in support of fixing this, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 03:13:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B1B106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A9A8FC0C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n3A3DFWk030632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n3A3DFSe030631; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01895; Thu, 9 Apr 09 20:03:24 PDT Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:01:29 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: rsmith@xs4all.nl Message-Id: <49deb689.wo7pGx8gH2CQTOPa%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409222047.GA44772@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090409222047.GA44772@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:16 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:47:23PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be > > partitioned; but yes, it is: > > > > $ ls -l /dev/da0* > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 > > That would suggest that there is a filesystem on there, doesn't it? It would certainly suggest there is a DOS "partition" table aka BSD "slice" table. I don't think it says anything about what the slice contains, however. > > $ dd if=/dev/da0 of=~/sd bs=1b > > > > That's been running for something like 45 minutes now, and based > > on the size of the output file it has read about a tenth of the > > card. > > Reading one byte at a time is bound to be slow. "dd bs=1b" is one block (512 bytes), not one byte. At least it seems to be working. I *would* anticipate problems if trying to read a umass device in units not a multiple of its native blocksize. > It could be that this USB chipset needs some "quirks" to work > correctly. like "Don't attempt to read more than 32768 bytes at a time" -- subsequent testing shows it to be OK up to bs=64b, but bs=126b fails -- or is there maybe a way to set that sort of limit in mtools? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 03:13:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A10106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224D88FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n3A3DDOi030624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n3A3DDgF030623; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01877; Thu, 9 Apr 09 20:00:19 PDT Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:58:25 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <49deb5d1.syt1ug/OWLKGHOGd%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090410003759.dede9c9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090410003759.dede9c9e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:13:18 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:47:23 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be > > partitioned; but yes, it is: > > > > $ ls -l /dev/da0* > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 > > Why don't you expect this? As far as I know, if something is > msdosfs-formatted (read: any "Windows" readable file system, > FAT), it always involves a "slice device". I never found a > situation where access to /dev/da0 would work. My experience is exactly the reverse. I've never before seen a removable-media device (floppy, Zip-drive, JAZ drive) that *did* have a DOS "partition" table aka BSD "slice" table. Surely you would not expect a USB floppy to show up as /dev/da0s1? AFAIK the reason for creating slices is to identify sections of the device for use by different OS -- something often needed for multi-boot from a hard drive but seldom on removable media. I sure wasn't planning to use part of this SD card for my camera to store pictures on, and the rest for FreeBSD backups :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 05:18:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20E9106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290B88FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3A5IA6D062360; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:18:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 123BEBA8C; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:18:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090410051809.GA20036@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <49de2c9a.QlCBOleCO/iBrMcf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409181009.GA38361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <49de50cb.gcYrr9F1eSmdUBu9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090409222047.GA44772@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <49deb689.wo7pGx8gH2CQTOPa%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49deb689.wo7pGx8gH2CQTOPa%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB SD-card reader recognized, but not working, on 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:18:16 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:01:29PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:47:23PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > It's an SD card, not a "drive", so I had not expected it to be > > > partitioned; but yes, it is: > > >=20 > > > $ ls -l /dev/da0* > > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 244 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0 > > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 245 Feb 14 15:09 /dev/da0s1 > > > > That would suggest that there is a filesystem on there, doesn't it? >=20 > It would certainly suggest there is a DOS "partition" table aka > BSD "slice" table. I don't think it says anything about what the > slice contains, however. Well, why bother making slices if you're not going to put a filesystem on it? > > It could be that this USB chipset needs some "quirks" to work > > correctly. >=20 > like "Don't attempt to read more than 32768 bytes at a time" -- > subsequent testing shows it to be OK up to bs=3D64b, but bs=3D126b > fails -- or is there maybe a way to set that sort of limit in > mtools? I don't know. The quirks I was talking about are built into the USB drivers. See /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkne1pEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX69ACggWzt0kvAxOppFrwM6rMyF3pA tTMAoJ0GbItGm/8ZcWyIgduQTKUAJUm+ =1zM3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 05:43:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4591065670 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0398FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W8 ([65.55.154.43]) by bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:31:22 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[95878360:01C9B99D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:43:23 -0000 I know this may be OT=2C but I could use some help on this one. I've completed a major changeover in network provider=2C and I've now got a proper static ip including ptr records for my mail server (the only service that really counts on this anyway). If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name=2C and YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. Can anyone shed some light on this? Pls cc as I'm not subscribed to the list via this account _________________________________________________________________ The new Windows Live Messenger has landed. Download it here. http://download.live.com/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 06:17:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4010656DA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243128FC24 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so848318wfg.7 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EdF3XQiCgcdBc8IixCMkfjLOU+gnz3vqA6xQvfP28WM=; b=K7wLCtiZZphOihgbdeOLgWaPbog5IkoJqcE3ACcsxYzM1yrW728/vEXKgtUEV3OF2i vAbgqGJ16liBda+pDFKpiHTpUOTHlA3uHACValAON2ZHaLTrjg8OBmhFIj760q1ZXoDs 9TsF9Qa39JmkJ0MVKuoKxAE2xNvmKh+Ng9UfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cxsCUQG5LIWro2K3vPnJr7h5aOBuNCnoUYyf2qiEMRVnt+cZ/46KvlcIxPFASz896p T1OOFcTlif8y+bxNfzWqrTA/KuJhIrTTYash6hRsc9WnoM1XrCtQQEIDNk96On5fkhLq Ac5GjGDJjOq3wGWDyPwYtuhWZVvIkUArcFRlg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.13 with SMTP id 13mr1166964wfm.155.1239342584826; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:49:44 +0800 Message-ID: From: Canhua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portupgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:17:13 -0000 hi, I ran the following to upgrade on my 7.0-release FreBSD: env PACKAGEROOT="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Late st/" portupgrade -aPPR and it would failed with this error: fetch: ftp://ftp.freebsd.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/pub/FreeBSD/po rts/i386/packages-7.0-release/All/libX11-1.2.1,1.tbz: No address record please notice the site address being changed to "ftp.freebsd.orgpub", not "ftp.freebsd.org/pub", the slash between "org" and "pub" disappear. Best wishes Canhua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 06:29:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FB5106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA538FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.49.96.10]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:29:45 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3A6Tiqp080982 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:29:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:29:43 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090410062943.GA80802@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2009 06:29:46.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDD14240:01C9B9A5] Subject: MediaWiki extensions in the ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:29:49 -0000 Hello, The page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Importing_a_Wikipedia_database_dump_into_MediaWiki mentions some PHP extensions which must be installed to use an imported Wiki dump: extensions/ extensions/README extensions/Cite.php extensions/ParserFunctions extensions/ParserFunctions/Expr.php extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php extensions/Chr2Syl.php extensions/Cite.i18n.php extensions/Citation.php extensions/HTTPRedirect.php extensions/Purge.php extensions/Tidy.php extensions/tidy extensions/tidy/tidy.conf extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap.i18n.php extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap.php I have searched a lot but can't find a /usr/ports which would bring them to my system... any idea? (tidy is in the ports) matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 06:37:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FBD106567E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [64.146.239.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B92D8FC25 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3A6bMtk010506; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 23:37:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1239345444; bh=CQbGCgAwW0DsbuLIVcCC8ce3SehagSizqNkF6ky32ng=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=K5oHvBZ/j6fZE 00LLMll8IzOP93pEG9dv+EZXHz9sgb8kVKNlKe3+tAKnZugQlJkhhpKt8Hj4ZmM+ijO RwmSSjY9m3dvdgS/Hs5HPTOdHtFnEaQf6C8nHCX06ds0AJ9VZK2atd9ipAS9zIDaOXZ CGtSVKOmQTwjP7T6i4XXez7E= From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 23:37:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904092337.21915.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Canhua Subject: Re: portupgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:37:25 -0000 On Thursday 09 April 2009 10:49:44 pm Canhua wrote: > hi, > > I ran the following to upgrade on my 7.0-release FreBSD: > env > PACKAGEROOT="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable >/Late st/" portupgrade -aPPR The Handbook says this should be PACKAGESITE. When I set it in my .cshrc, I have setenv. I haven't set it on my 7-stable but on 6-stable, it looks like setenv PACKAGESITE ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/ Kent > > and it would failed with this error: > fetch: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/pub/FreeB >SD/po rts/i386/packages-7.0-release/All/libX11-1.2.1,1.tbz: No address > record > > please notice the site address being changed to > "ftp.freebsd.orgpub", not "ftp.freebsd.org/pub", > the slash between "org" and "pub" disappear. > > Best wishes > > Canhua > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 06:57:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0011065670 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC86B8FC2D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFFBEB4FA1; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6E14509B; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:45 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E0Myz8vewmA9; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl167-129.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.146.129]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07FE4503F; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3A6vivE043292; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3A6vhLg043291; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90904091253i398dc4cfvfdb98f3731e6b3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:57:42 +0300 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90904091253i398dc4cfvfdb98f3731e6b3c@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0700") Message-ID: <87d4bl807t.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: flex from ports kills buildworld? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:57:47 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:53:09 -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > Probably doing something stupid, but on the off chance I'm not: > > - Had to install a newer flex from ports for something. > - Had to move the system flex to avoid hacking reams of bad makefiles > - Did a buildworld, and it can't find a flex > - Seems to me, buildworld should be able to use a newer flex, and > should be able to use the one from /usr/local instead of /sbin > > Thanks, > Steve > > [steve@dynstant /usr/src]$ sudo make buildworld > ... > flex -ogengtype-lex.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gengtype-lex.l > flex:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 Do you have `/usr/bin/flex'? That's what should be used by the buildworld step. It may also be a good idea to start with `sudo -i' and *then* run the buildworld commands in the root shell, instead of `sudo command'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 08:52:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182161065670 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5208FC23 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84DA326E5; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:52:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:52:22 +0200 From: cpghost To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20090410085222.GA97984@phenom.cordula.ws> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:52:27 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:31:22AM +0000, Da Rock wrote: > > I know this may be OT, but I could use some help on this one. I've > completed a major changeover in network provider, and I've now got a > proper static ip including ptr records for my mail server (the only > service that really counts on this anyway). > > If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name, and > YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Pls cc as I'm not subscribed to the list via this account If you're just getting 4xx error codes, but the mails are accepted after a while, it's simply greylisting. That's normal behaviour of the FreeBSD mail server(s). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 08:53:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F055B1065697 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A377F8FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LsCUV-0005Mq-7D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:39 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:39 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:39 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <848751.28828.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: Dino Vliet User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: memtest question on 8 GB RAM AMD64 system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:45 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:43:08 -0700 (PDT), Dino Vliet wrote: DV> I have just installed 4 x 2gb kingston memory banks (Kingston HyperX 4GB 800mhz DDR2 Non-ECC CL5 (5-5-5-15) DIMM) onto my AMD 64 system with a X2 5200 CPU. The motherboard I have in this system is MSI K9AG Neo2-Digital. DV> DV> The system boots fine and I wanted to try memtest to see if there would be errors. So I installed that /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest port and did For memory test it is better to use this: http://www.memtest86.com/ or this http://www.memtest.org/ tool -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:01:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE9C106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5188FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so943048tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=abYxItZij0SpIa7Y2nTuwAzmWt1RBnR9WexfDbdhUeI=; b=AVbSe5B/6P+U/V4Vz88oZgGZhBNLZRtxizAQMwWqS3NWTcn3lCgcV2UrfvIoOdqlYc a3b5UN+igxb/MmWztLDfv5YvLF2YjUnEPZR1T1PC5JpLrPh6ucLhKsz4XHQuq3daQIdA Zb1XofyNBI0ZYUVwm1gB/5TwZ5cjr6yrOrPhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZpUD5Cr/WTKhn3U9M4k3CMToqovXnOsPONqMJl637q1mMC4q3RIfCL1sWYzwosxnIi eifNTbZ69Zo6EiRhZ7bwc6Gr1Rd44fUtdGFoMJQVHdxPCZvFuAKQckajOn8Y/npkJ6yT OO74JgCIK618L1/qpO9WrvhPMu5adlgbO/ubE= Received: by 10.110.84.3 with SMTP id h3mr4631902tib.15.1239354070635; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.234.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm241196tic.36.2009.04.10.02.01.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF0B2C.3060408@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:32:36 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Question about support for HP D1560 printer under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:01:12 -0000 Hi, I am about to buy a new printer (my first one actually) and my retailer strongly recommends HP's D1560 printer (USB). I am running ghostscript8-8.62_5 under FreeBSD 7.1 and I can't see this model listed anywhere in apsfilter. So I just want to confirm whether I could get this printer to run on my system ? -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:08:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F68B106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01748FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8FEB4D06; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114E445088; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:21 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N7Cr70TjAiAp; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl167-129.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.146.129]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10E44503F; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3A98KCv075987; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3A98J8F075927; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Da Rock References: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:19 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Da Rock's message of "Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22 +0000") Message-ID: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:08:22 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22 +0000, Da Rock wrote: > I know this may be OT, but I could use some help on this one. I've > completed a major changeover in network provider, and I've now got a > proper static ip including ptr records for my mail server (the only > service that really counts on this anyway). > > If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name, and > YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Pls cc as I'm not subscribed to the list via this account Can you show us the *exact* deferral message? It may be greylisting from the FreeBSD.org mail servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:31:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051D0106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18AB8FC2C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W44 ([65.55.154.79]) by bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:31:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:31:27 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2009 09:31:27.0811 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FAD4130:01C9B9BF] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:31:28 -0000 > From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server > Date: Fri=2C 10 Apr 2009 12:08:19 +0300 >=20 > On Fri=2C 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22 +0000=2C Da Rock wrote: > > I know this may be OT=2C but I could use some help on this one. I've > > completed a major changeover in network provider=2C and I've now got a > > proper static ip including ptr records for my mail server (the only > > service that really counts on this anyway). > > > > If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name=2C and > > YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > Pls cc as I'm not subscribed to the list via this account >=20 > Can you show us the *exact* deferral message? >=20 > It may be greylisting from the FreeBSD.org mail servers. >=20 That sounds likely. I'll check the exact pattern of the errors to see. I'll post back with the error soon as I can access the server again. Cheers _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to rent=2C share or buy? Let ninemsn property search for y= ou. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2E= au%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=3D774152450&_r= =3DDomain_tagline&_m=3DEXT= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:47:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81831106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563DE8FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so900112wfg.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QYzZSAhWUUBbp2POauavRrV+Sg+uoIihYgozXiIbeYA=; b=hORzyaP6pFr7r5ad6iRhTC3IT1nLAuNtd5UgKbOroYRJk9L9JJ/eRnGiuOoyXC9INC hleqC+gwKQEREt8pccoS/cz8TO+ZFZG2Js1tfuIkyrM67aW1rtzLYPYKGoaV66DgEOIL 4jtVQxC/jOh4EjcgDlnGltctL3Yk7raPGmQp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ktnV/IIRanbmaToIhJxC7cUVIIN/Yp52J9vx3NM514fDQGGpSnSYwh+v3oJFLKidHA 8DG9QtEdBsSwI/vsPI3lb6GNvxP7n36cjOWiI40E19JFCEw6CeMXJXOtjXRHmDk4QcOK /909jhg+FMK8JcuZfNd0IV9bDpXZYIQ1rmMIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.153.8 with SMTP id a8mr1256692wfe.94.1239356837093; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200904092337.21915.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:47:17 +0800 Message-ID: From: Canhua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:47:17 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2009 10:49:44 pm Canhua wrote:>> env > The Handbook says this should be PACKAGESITE. When I set it in my .cshrc, I > have setenv. I haven't set it on my 7-stable but on 6-stable, it looks like > > setenv PACKAGESITE > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/ You're right. I meant env PACKAGESITE=.... and the problem remained what I said. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 11:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97117106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36128FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1035000ewy.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:12:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Iu4lSf6FExlrKkTNzOod/GzzLdrPTVEJ36FvIco17qQ=; b=h9u4eia0q2qnpZ0K2j5G4XY29uxThM3cs5jt8Po2M1HfBoK+Cu3wJnzEes8AG4QdSF X3LuIX8AFyTUB80RGMi6VwkmdbueBAW75OQGomeo+GADAuAAHPSh9zS9xUesi6R5OWuy 2F/YPris5OVWXnEZ+vBtqFDytWwYKRTjdpZN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pMlz9hhwPmYyffsE4SRtSOhu1cprgwCWbQi8ROkBig5XQnT37PV68CLFjpuvN/1m4v 6HEpiBLWsOVrBAwL1IMlWmoyHSjmamslmaNNQchzyH79iQautoRpAcMmEVVsSEbpbPME O427vK04kqPQGHD2Jk8KiMRW/vCO/v7usJlao= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.13.9 with SMTP id 9mr147401ebm.0.1239361955146; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:12:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1bd550a00904080119m1ab4577fk9f0b444f921c6574@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:12:35 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00904100412t7f8f386eve2f07e5fdda162c1@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Rajeev Sharma Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Change to Graphical Mode from DOS Mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:12:36 -0000 2009/4/10 Rajeev Sharma : > Hello Sir, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 First of all i am very than= kfull for your reply. > > I just followed the instruction given by BSD DVD.=A0 i instaled all the > options including X windows, gname etc. > > After login : -- > > startx command is also not working > Hi, First off, I'm sending this mail to freebsd-questions again so other people can help you. As other people suggested, the better option is reading the excelent FreeBSD documentation that you can find at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ There you will find topics about installing, configuring and tuning your FreeBSD system. And of course, here we are to help you. If you installed X Window and all the stuff, why is startx not working? is the command found? does the X server try to start but if fails? Cheers > > Thanks > > Rajeev Sharma > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 2009/4/8 Fernando Apestegu=EDa >> >> On 4/8/09, Rajeev Sharma wrote: >> > Sir, >> > =A0 =A0 =A0I have successfully downloaded FreeBSD 6.4 Release linux & >> > installed >> >> FreeBSD is _not_ linux ;) >> >> > on my PC. =A0But it starts in DOS Mode. >> >> aka "Console" mode. >> >> > >> > I want to shift to Graphical Mode. >> >> Once you log in, (use your login name and password), and assuming you >> installed some graphical environment, try to type: >> >> startx >> >> Cheers >> >> > >> > >> > Kindly advice me what to do. >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > Rajeev Sharma >> > rajb366a@gmail.com >> > rajb366a@rediffmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 11:13:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CE31065692 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 592A38FC1A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25098 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Apr 2009 10:46:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239360403; bh=JHB7+9X+TrabjKyfTG9teljGnVAS3/Qq56ETiXsIegc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cs+bzfqjp1xx5D6oZeW69FfYqr2yGMufOO752+jrejOnMND7xS5ovV4cqliVUWWOAnyOl2IoaeKelUzvkBFob+xY58pUilSlta7JRCQU32ZYxayV+eoveIeCD+H/CkESmXaUEYO7FTKN90wuLoTpUBTa2exHEaEztoMEI1rsnlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OIjxeBi00Ur5L7pLj66lI2Zs4Sm0Uxo+lxbiAGemwopWWzezoXFXWQpiURXrz+AT9XHKf78/V8v9Dr1TP/Mtsc2A4//i1F/LDtA2f6oTvBvF/+zggeSpovjoArdw4RMyYV7VRCyFFuxSOhrqzzMIeOHXSwwWcXDLuwwFCkOtSfE=; Message-ID: <611243.24929.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HCkbuf4VM1nhxC83_p2Zh6VJUo6_onFZIz2HuFZpmZOx5ux89n36Y6eZa_4HX1y0tdBwaPQUEqjKE152Rl1dY76Z4xms98B4MQQEC3vNXMUbv3Def2mG6wZWnt0Gssx4h3.BOVJzHEh3zuYvLEEppHWbSQ5Uvm8TPi3KvpG.UH2vGIUJYtKre6wONMTgSQ0gX2AfcEQEEZvczVRg6.RXliue1Gol1QdjhlRghWnOhMnNF6aGE4x.4rvqt6bgWKMssKrMu7vgbK8881hGOZVvNB01gmTpfcsn5bSSg1ozBVCiQnh5nVj2hOGDKrw7FKjZOvH5cAwD649rF3zuDLxV_nnXpisYH3Y- Received: from [76.23.177.172] by web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:46:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <49DF0B2C.3060408@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: GESBBB To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <49DF0B2C.3060408@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Manish Jain Subject: Re: Question about support for HP D1560 printer under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:13:26 -0000 > =A0From: Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com=0A=0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> I am a= bout to buy a new printer (my first one actually) and my retailer strongly = =0A> recommends HP's D1560 printer (USB). I am running ghostscript8-8.62_5 = under =0A> FreeBSD 7.1 and I can't see this model listed anywhere in apsfil= ter. So I just =0A> want to confirm whether I could get this=A0 printer to = run on my system ?=0A=0AAccording to the http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-w= eb/index.html=A0site, your printer is supported. Install the '/print/hplip'= port. Be sure to read the documentation=A0on=A0configuring the program.=0A= =0AI have hplip and cups installed on my system to support two HP wireless = printers, and it works fine.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry=0A=0AAnd God said, "Let there= be light. "But then the program crashed because he was trying to access th= e 'light' property of a NULL universe pointer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 12:34:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C0F106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C35A8FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1022808tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=Ck7QgeSi6BYqdJKBIxihQYtAlPfR6u2LS9s8NfEk0P4=; b=CvZ0jhiCed3+0HtJmnB5freZNKgrN+sQ8xEOcyADN3aYfcQ7S29Duq4L2kruKtqz6R RqvKL78Gl7MCNkhDlbIsO1a9RpVYge+McYspYqniob0HE0XkCNXxYQ81hyU/XPh1EOzF ncLIloAAtAUcuh8LDGkDF6u8Wy7NVQXty9e/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=GRtqwsoyJayEYbJQxzJtp/nmd37DLe127xT6vwBOw4YucZgXNT4bxldRUfRdwaEqXm t44cxCZl7nYHdYLz/AR86ZaU/6ScbpH9lVW63ngaueJpgikud6bc8gMy6hTIYRkRWooa 8VBGXRAIIHcr1xROii1XG5vN44ni6CfR0mC6w= Received: by 10.110.42.17 with SMTP id p17mr3682205tip.16.1239366891273; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.234.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm629757tib.28.2009.04.10.05.34.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF3D3E.4030509@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:14 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090410120013.64538106568B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090410120013.64538106568B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060600040400040402000307" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Question about support for HP D1560 printer under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:34:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060600040400040402000307 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Jerry wrote: According to the [1]http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html site, your printer is supported. Install the '/print/hplip' port. Be sure to read the docu mentation on configuring the program. I have hplip and cups installed on my system to support two HP wireless printer s, and it works fine. Hi Jerry, Thanks for your message. I checked up the list, which says that the D1560 is indeed supported, but it also says that the minimum version of hplip required for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available is 2.8.2. Please check out [2]http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d15 00_series.html for this. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain [3]invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. 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Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D43106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AF68FC24 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA9007C16D2; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:08:10 +0100 Message-ID: <49DF44B9.9080303@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:08:09 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:08:12 -0000 Bob Johnson wrote: > >> - reduced energy use for everyone. > > I think the difference in energy use would be so small as to be > pointless. If I have a system that consumes 75 kilowatt hours per > month, and I spend an extra 0.05 kilowatt hour per month updating > ports, is the difference (less than 1/10 of 1 percent) really > meaningful? I can't even measure my power usage accurately enough to > detect the difference. Convince me to use three liters less hot water > per month, and you will save more energy. How do you get the figures above? I measured electricity use for a typical 2 year old computer (excluding screen) as: - computer idling - 80 watts - computer working hard - 125 watts That's a diff of 45 watts. Suppose normally you use your computer 4 hours a day and it normally takes you 20 hours to upgrade your ports. You start the upgrade while using the computer but you leave it compiling for an extra 16 hours. Thats 4 hours at 45 watts plus 16 hours at 125 watts. Thats 2180 watt hours or over 2 kWh on top of your normal use for one port upgrade. However you jig the figures there is no escaping that cpu cycles use energy. Multiply by the number of times ports are upgraded per computer per year and the number of computers being upgraded and a package system seems like a worthwhile saving. (Thanks Colin Percival et al for freebsd-update, this aspect of it hadn't occurred to me) To complete your comparison if you used electricity to heat 3 litres of water from 15 degC to 55 degC you would use 0.139kWh. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 13:10:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7384B10656D6 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B348FC21 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3ADA5V3061104; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n3ADA5wo061103; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:04 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Joshua Gimer Message-ID: <20090410131004.GA59635@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Joshua Gimer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:10:11 -0000 On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:26:51PM -0600, Joshua Gimer typed: > You might also find a little bit information about what the process is > waiting on by attaching to it with strace (in ports under devel) > (strace -p PID). why would you install strace from ports? truss does the same job. Ruben > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Eray Aslan wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > >> I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : > >> # ps -jaxw | grep mount > >> root ? 60342 ? ? 1 60289 60289 ? ?0 D ? ? ?? ? ?0:00.00 mount_nfs > > [...] > >> How to I get this process killed? > > > > reboot. ?You can't kill a process with a D flag. ?Google for > > uninterruptible sleep. > > > > -- > > Eray > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > -- > Thx > Joshua Gimer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 13:51:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739FB1065673 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2898FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1046163tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GqQ1+DUjOQEQtS6pPhIS2e3Y8w5HW3BAko+MznTq80s=; b=xfECoL/Qsk473rRlKOfa5Ye5jNGKU4LAFMXBLzhHvyEhaKjL0+0iA322kbTqk6fNAi TEWh6JMYjeWjxREJSmt/5Kfnkz0iQDoLGbGNwcIq7fQl4NSB2aCv5GCEEmJjvugRme8N e3tlz7a5Iz7YgdxUSdKeE5ibk34obogym4QnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TmucIlK5gZUHC5Ow9Jp/Phmlvk9KyxG3HC/s/woA0JrHAXTngQbDmm++glyonuGsIF DLCmJz5/j+d6MQJkyiQ7P+ZDuHPUFn8WIxWIGmd0GVQNdulUPh3a521kOwKDXHZGwP7B YRad4x2BS7V9sSm6Ai67QrntBpywBahKeb2vA= Received: by 10.110.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr4877611tia.58.1239371505818; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.74.208.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm188123tic.15.2009.04.10.06.51.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:35 +0700 From: kyanh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:51:47 -0000 Hello all, I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use mplayer %s to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin? Thank you! PS: sorry for my terrible English :) -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 14:19:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81CE106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E70E8FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1054010tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QyTw3xHxvJ2hmFoMF6m1zIRiY3dwZkGegSk07URS5do=; b=tLwF8YeF8N0g7GqA8uEe7z5m8zT6Xq3Y/SnkrNNr/LQMrV6R+ZhYueIlpjAnbxbI2J 02xx3GoJqWRhQtWHC0Zt5e0YCOqcKcMyed+1zpugp1fJ8r3sofQ21Uxqpt1MzcsQvAX+ rkp6XFdyiiuIrvTmTGrwh4nInTpJxq6pkxQBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qcxIAcCbkl4yTDtaNpQyhq2IalIvUFKekyIMour1Ku0fLCAXBAELm/NeZvA9S89Uyi yUnrTays9YO4a1MiKSyKqxnIAOCLmac3zpshnJTo2bmAeNUpbyO7GRFi56x5ta+2hiyt eFRMHfla20r88VCGeOJv1RpiTTgB/P8zx49Rk= Received: by 10.110.40.8 with SMTP id n8mr4947820tin.28.1239373151200; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.74.208.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm174981tic.16.2009.04.10.07.19.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:18:52 +0700 From: kyanh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090410211852.20404f12@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <20090410131004.GA59635@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20090409114731.GA4871@zptr-nb01> <20090410131004.GA59635@ei.bzerk.org> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cannot kill process with kill -9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:19:13 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:04 +0200 Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:26:51PM -0600, Joshua Gimer typed: > > You might also find a little bit information about what the > > process is waiting on by attaching to it with strace (in ports > > under devel) (strace -p PID). > > why would you install strace from ports? truss does the same job. > Great tips, Ruben! `strace` requires /proc and I am too lazay to mount `procfs` after installing `strace` ports. (In fact I installed `strace` then did nothing.) Going to `pkg_delete starce` now :P > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Eray Aslan > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > > >> I have a mount_nfs process that refuses to get killed : > > >> # ps -jaxw | grep mount > > >> root ? 60342 ? ? 1 60289 60289 ? ?0 D ? ? ?? ? ?0:00.00 > > >> mount_nfs > > > [...] > > >> How to I get this process killed? > > > > > > reboot. ?You can't kill a process with a D flag. ?Google for > > > uninterruptible sleep. > > > > > > -- -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 14:25:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D85106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2126A8FC1F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA9007CA030; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:13 +0100 Message-ID: <49DF56C9.4080302@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:13 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:20 -0000 Bob Johnson wrote: > On 4/8/09, Jonathan McKeown wrote: >> On Tuesday 07 April 2009 23:35:03 Bob Johnson wrote: >>> On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> The drawback I can see is the disk space required to keep several >> generations >> of packages online - if the package-port bundle is rebuilt every three >> weeks, >> let's say, and you want to keep 6 months' worth of packages online, you need >> to keep 9 complete versions available. Is there a quick way to find out how big are the tarballs without downloading them all or adding them up one by one? My distfiles directory is 1.2gb. I guess you could allow 5gb for each cycle, that's only 45gb for 6 months. If that is realistic a 500gb hard disk would store 5 years worth. Would anyone want a five year old package? >> > > I think a bigger drawback is the security issue. As soon as any > package in the collection has a significant announced security flaw, > you are faced with the choice of withdrawing the entire collection, > withdrawing only that package, or leaving the flawed package out there > for people to use because it is more convenient for them. Yes this might be an issue> How often are there serious security issues with desktop type ports? > > PC-BSD seems to already keep up-to-date binary packages of their > applications. Do they accomplish that by only offering a small subset > of the full ports collection? > A big difference with PBI's is that each PBI is self contained "with all the files and libraries necessary for the installed program to function" (quote from the website). Upside is that it is very easy to install and avoids dependency problems. Downside is that it requires more bandwidth to download and more disk space. I did wonder if it would make sense to just use the PBI system. The number of packages depends to some extent on individuals volunteering to make and maintain them - true FreeBSD style. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:16:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE931065673 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.catrysse@proximedia.be) Received: from mail.proxirepair.be (mail.proxirepair.be [194.88.104.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A888FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.catrysse@proximedia.be) Received: from 213-84-208-229.adsl.xs4all.nl ([213.84.208.229] helo=TEC22) by mail.proxirepair.be with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LsHxP-000NVp-VB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:43:52 +0200 From: "Jan Catrysse" To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:38:10 +0200 Organization: Proximedia Message-ID: <006901c9b9e9$f8dc1060$ea943120$@catrysse@proximedia.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm56fig4pF7v7WhS/O3a5egrLXeig== Content-Language: nl-be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Kernel panic on disk timeout with 3ware controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:16:52 -0000 Hello, I am using FreeBSD 7.1 RELEASE on a system with a 3Ware RAID controller, the system resides on a RAID volume. I get kernel panics complaining about page faults, swap space and a drive timeout. This is, I think, due to a faulty disk. The 3ware controller detects a timeout, relaunches the disk and retries with success. This is, I suppose, invisible for FreeBSD. I am not experiencing problems with normal disk reads and writes, but when it happens on the swap space FreeBSD does mind, gives a timeout and panics. Can this behavior be changed? I am never on site and I would prefer a simple error message and not a kernel panic, I can change the disk with a hotspare remotely. Impossible when the server is down. Big thanks, Jan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:23:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FC11065676 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A836C8FC28 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21670 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Apr 2009 15:23:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239377006; bh=OFVoZJ7t5PPPz6+ombVTFvPxGiDeYf+vGC9AQIGurJ4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jlwQlHOZb7KvR22V72csnJk0XIFYXZUK/J/eYf68FvJSrRm12uVja7uy5CYlt8WWMGkWfqoUXdDPfaOe2KGvrdHzJlL+QTfaR52P9W+xCBlOQ5C6u/30qRtdQ1o/UptfgQ+fyNqcIdPzRu97eg9XZlZCm07eNKkRKCfcqu/V4tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IO7prwm9Y+w4q56piPWr3Z4BikCxkCkT59KSyPUi7hxdbaSWJ03Me1FjmxbCIbbAvz5JLT37rOZhBmqe+bLlZhTGqZFWX5ok4qPv2q9TZjVU07NlgpS7u0vd+9s+qJqKFQwSw7MD8O4lRsL4dvA+WGEqrhhNgOdRABqx1bEhptY=; Message-ID: <55464.21271.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _q873bgVM1lnM6O1_KGc3qsfOBa28CwiPD3uSVJL8MdOwes_EIyg29ywgJNk5wGgTwWoXI_mBHVKDx50Tufv.6GPygg1Y9scK75C6J8rCCdvhtZ73cQoePdqbvOoNNP3Pcu1sFh29wTqDNEfdeMgwNj3qDdF84yBlkia4LlbwU5veZTFwWXJ2r9KAoclx7myiLpqDNymhzsg0LBg2r4BrqJmIlKHhfh0H1RT2s218AgCbmlEHywduo3lIptErVFAe.yb3x0_xMb4Th0vBnpEvNHbynmpIftg9OSiOt4ESyG35pzOOw-- Received: from [134.207.53.14] by web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:23:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:23:25 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: mouse problems-version 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:27 -0000 Hi all: After I did "portupgrade -fa -y" and I have mouse problem: it works under the test of "sysinstall" but it would not work when I start KDE environment. What went wrong? How could i fix this? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:32:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F5E1065672 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09C748FC25 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16822 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Apr 2009 15:32:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239377564; bh=r2FjC4/uuNCIrzLsBa5Kajri7ZHU4ETzzrZtGT6E5cU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pk/YKD80NeuJuFVU67vox5G+ub69DIQ+K+auw4/p4MqWcpQVC+ocMoIe2EibjggvqDs5FWSX5NyULDmjZRXtSQ+E6FW4esZBVWi2+X/Pc1SDNJRyBJeYEZr8v6UU6/Gkq/F+BGzSYKan1E8305z3zB1S8bU9i0ROnMeCV0kc6Pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R5f5PVGLdDDK8p+ENiptbglrjfPuaPmTsrOnZoLDKeq+Wb7KjmjbEVij6hzP7ePeEkqcTwfz0vnr1KLZy2jmUKASvS9YKvjD9b3DTysNZLUaohBfW4mLx7elBrGd9H1ZLkAqhA8mSqqq7PKRFFHPmb6cUiFjyCW3P3fD/kQifD8=; Message-ID: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NU4eWXQVM1mH1qOjPPF_qgkLENutoRqdopS9GA7NO2lpBMFKHWd14fN4cuNpRSmrv6p8iNoHNCyIYk_oTXE7XvVFh6gKQZdDvax3ZygXZTzbf4FdAFPD9rnGG_iYJwlJYA5munhXn0JPqmYMDP3NhaXFQoDFKPBtRrgaxlr4C8VVzElOb9TRMAHhYxkpf0xcgJ7ufUGNd9cuVf9alYqJGXr.TuPYsXJ7LdqvdE6EdjF1uSKukqm9L9qp_hxp_raaN0a6dwvrrYZg1qmlujSUwn0PRga4PDWPSYhD.4D1ou5pExI_hDI- Received: from [134.207.53.14] by web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:32:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:32:45 -0000 Hi all: I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a line: #hw.physmem="1G" # Limit physical memory. See loader(8) Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of "hw.physmem" is not changeable. Any guru here give me some enlightenment? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:33:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AED1065756 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AD7D8FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26097 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2009 15:33:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=c4gJZ11HzSTWXIT9STPHnYhbe2csYgn5sv0qk6A7Zvx7HggPFyk/rWBl8GmpriNTrtFLF8HKwmvZRI9dRrGmYX5jfB9HpPN0mLvYpXdKfdkwRrvn5/0ahHAxkIrOCqPiYpsZRG+/zl5ZJHm6ix9xbtwHi4oA53yne7UJ+G0HOVQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 15:33:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Q4bw.KkVM1kbtqmp1Rrh_W9lJ8rPJ22QCBvctNJKIBRJl5k2Sn72vh_v1MrmNdh.9IKuPhNXh4rxTirW8C8hZimC3mH6XsILRuCmU78DgmlUCc947FjI6__zi5Ij5lz.llAEMNqOXL45Bgx69yXPnmAY8yWldexpDm_rNR.vfHl_NzhxIl.Gc3UVmJDSGtOTq_BQ6vKp5JMGnNME3CU0hGlxEGAyCqwg7ghHxx6LwjzauAULs1DMvm5ViuzXi61J2gUkEUBJU1x.86tWktga_WWuxtlzUJ.iAgFhOH9Wd4C1YKl9pziQWKsYu57qRdJAmRRlIsqC2f0t1W5s9cwcK9ijbNjxHAk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:33:50 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090410113350.38fe8c42@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49DF3D3E.4030509@gmail.com> References: <20090410120013.64538106568B@hub.freebsd.org> <49DF3D3E.4030509@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/=yYptcv6XUxatN1pJLkk//b"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Question about support for HP D1560 printer under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:33:55 -0000 --Sig_/=yYptcv6XUxatN1pJLkk//b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:14 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > Hi Jerry, > Thanks for your message. I checked up the list, which says that the > D1560 is indeed supported, but it also says that the minimum version > of hplip required for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available > is 2.8.2. > Please check > out > [2]http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d15 > 00_series.html for this. Contact the port maintainer: amistry@am-productions.biz and explain your problem to him. He should be able to update the port so it works for you. I have spoken to him before and he solved a problem I was having rather quickly. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Inform all the troops that communications have completely broken down. --Sig_/=yYptcv6XUxatN1pJLkk//b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknfZt8ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO1MuwCglCMIPJ9++2n6O3xKd0lY88X7 xWoAniIx3iL77S3i5UAsCiiCy/1E+FVw =3uTV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=yYptcv6XUxatN1pJLkk//b-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:35:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159BF1065767 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACE58FC18 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B915C308; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3AFZ4Pu007687; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kyanh Message-Id: <20090410173504.e0f1eb2c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:35:15 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:35 +0700, kyanh wrote: > Hello all, > > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use > mplayer %s > to make Pidgin play stuff. First, maybe mplayer is a bit "heavy stuff" for notification sounds. What are these files? If they are *.wav, use "play %s" command, and if they are *.mp3, use "madplay %s" or "mpg123 %s", as well as "ogg123 %s" for *.ogg files. Check out the manpages for these programs if you think you need further options. > But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while > the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a > bigger sound in Pidgin? Check the other volumes as well. PCM should be 100:100, too. If vol == 100:100 and pcm == 10:10, it will be very silent. :-) Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play louder sounds? > PS: sorry for my terrible English :) I'm not sure mine is better, don't mind. The guys on that list have a lot of translational phantasy. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:45:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA1D106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FC48FC1A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AD73F3F6; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:45:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3AFjHmo007710; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:45:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:45:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Whitehouse Message-Id: <20090410174516.85bade77.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49DF56C9.4080302@onetel.com> References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <49DF56C9.4080302@onetel.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bob Johnson , Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:45:24 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:13 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Is there a quick way to find out how big are the tarballs without > downloading them all or adding them up one by one? I think it's possible to obtain an FTP ls listing and then use awk to get the column with the size (in bytes) and add them, printing the final result and maybe converting it into MB, GB if needed. > Would anyone want a five year old package? Yes, I would, because today's packages are sooo slooow. :-) Just as an unimportant sidenote: The FreeBSD OS is capable in gaining speed on the same (old) hardware with every release. So I can install it today on a 150 MHz P1 with 128 MB RAM without any problems, and it will run fast. But I cannot use today's applications on that system as I could the older ones, such as StarOffice, older Opera versions, older Mplayer versions, older X-Chat versions etc. because all of them depend on newer libraries (including, excuse me, bloat) that would render the system nearly unusable speed-wise (see the big "jump" in Gtk, compare usability and speed of X-Chat 1 vs. X-Chat 2, or the transition of Sylpheed from Gtk 1 toolset to Gtk 2 toolset). Disk occupation is, of course, another topic. If you've got only a 4 GB hard disk which could hold a fully functional and feature-rich system of FreeBSD 5, it's hard to achieve this with FreeBSD 7 and its set of applications because of the many dependencies (just have a look at how Gtk and Gnome stuff can fill your hard disk, maybe you want to use gmplayer "only"). > A big difference with PBI's is that each PBI is self contained "with all > the files and libraries necessary for the installed program to function" > (quote from the website). Upside is that it is very easy to install and > avoids dependency problems. Downside is that it requires more bandwidth > to download and more disk space. Another problem is that if a minor (but important) library change appears that does require the update of the library, but not of the dependent applications, that new PBIs have to be built and installed, while the traditional way would suggest to update the library only. But I don't think customers of PC-BSD will be interested in such "geek stuff". PC-BSD is fine for average users who install once, use then, update very few times. > I did wonder if it would make sense to just use the PBI system. The > number of packages depends to some extent on individuals volunteering to > make and maintain them - true FreeBSD style. Allthough I prefer the traditional and well intended ways, I could live with PBI as long as there's an automated way to install them, read: command line, ability for batch processing. I simply don't want to waste time for "Next, next, okay, next, next, next, reboot." :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:52:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A21E106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6388FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3AFpuQu000361; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Yt+-yo+4rmPO; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3AFpbRH000356; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49DF6B09.9010307@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:37 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfreak@yahoo.com References: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:52:08 -0000 gahn wrote: > Hi all: > > I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a line: > > #hw.physmem="1G" # Limit physical memory. See loader(8) > > Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? Yes, but, would it make a difference? > Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of "hw.physmem" is not changeable. It is changeable before the system boots (during the 'loader' stage), but not changeable later. The question is, what's it currently set to? The comment means that the line in question *isn't* a physical memory limit ... what's the current setting of hw.physmem, and why would you *want* to limit it? On my systems, both 7x and 6x, hw.physmem is something like 4G by default---despite the fact I've nothing like that amount of RAM onboard. > Any guru here give me some enlightenment? IANAE, but am willing to accept correction. Kevin Kinsey -- When a person goes on a diet, the first thing he loses is his temper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:53:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7BC1065688 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100528FC1E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1127731ewy.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yyLP6bXOKCUIFIN1N49QOWSe1meQlTskbldY7z+zIqk=; b=Hq0b8xwgmj0fG1yTT7g/XEZB0JcGUNLFLa5YY4oe7EkobEV1KE37ZYeriVZlLKPnGE qni7cK6XRZSBx6t/VpTIE4PvCYrGhfef1F592DYtjsoCMpn9IyYa0+jnZoxFy5M0n/Ph qmwNFgD9HLclEiiteTw5J1UKxX/vf7HXU+Wqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MS3IIDVLnP2D3iCoA1cCWiSoy++TpD/2WwdGsoknriJNwz1u+mTL+Mja+6cpaaGR8l sSTrEAJ2xA/JLts7nFzEJK7d144XBORAkFYfYFWBR4MT9/U9zq+jSJm45MrAEQ5YmPsk yCj9t2zhQ2dIr3hLRk946hlEkLRYgJGMMyzN8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.127.13 with SMTP id z13mr332653ebc.35.1239378782143; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:53:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00904100853i3bfe7192ue4729cb3c3c1dffd@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: ipfreak@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:04 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:32 PM, gahn wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a lin= e: > > #hw.physmem=3D"1G" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# Limit physical memory= . See loader(8) > > Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? Yes, but if your purpose is to use all the available memory, you don't need to do anything. Because it is commented, that line doesn't have effect and the system will use all the available memory. What does sysctl hw.physmem return? > > Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of "hw.physmem" is not = changeable. After booting, it is. > > Any guru here give me some enlightenment? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:54:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AB610656BD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92788FC1F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1128176ewy.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ju4ojSDy0FAft4EzkVXG/JRm/Eclob/TGD+RVSiEHIU=; b=aoax6QJdm4cHm5psGHYaE3YN8zjxYrnsqjivhQx2ZoQm0pPRunHhBZKL+whbkJ//6q F7hxZElYrV8fLprODVzzzGnAsN4dy+jJ0VIKNcaQ+NDzJeIfS4scW826Cupw3oa3c+kh cIFnQCdMJ9slgreB+RoroWW8xxKbbNlj50ATA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BGDR0laiqaHyNy7HQ4d2h1Wcm5iGoPUFmMW/obm8YGUuEMpVYTjWp0BOK5H+A1Cslf 5HMdBhxF/YByBotL43X1okxCzOdNKnh3QzeklgqIsxWYiRb0RQRm9Wx5WIGU3GWVPfNM wzT+N5NQo+/oGDKzBOP4zUNBFfnvQrECH7xmY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.137.17 with SMTP id k17mr325796ebd.54.1239378861008; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:54:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00904100853i3bfe7192ue4729cb3c3c1dffd@mail.gmail.com> References: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1bd550a00904100853i3bfe7192ue4729cb3c3c1dffd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:54:20 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00904100854u2228a55eidebbdabbda40ee7f@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: ipfreak@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:54:22 -0000 2009/4/10 Fernando Apestegu=EDa : > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:32 PM, gahn wrote: >> >> Hi all: >> >> I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a li= ne: >> >> #hw.physmem=3D"1G" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# Limit physical memor= y. See loader(8) >> >> Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? > > Yes, but if your purpose is to use all the available memory, you don't > need to do anything. Because it is commented, that line doesn't have > effect and the system will use all the available memory. > > What does > sysctl hw.physmem > return? > >> >> Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of "hw.physmem" is not= changeable. > > After booting, it is. I meant, it is readonly :) > >> >> Any guru here give me some enlightenment? >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 16:04:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B86B1065674 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56F58FC28 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3AG43ww005899; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:04:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n3AG43ww005899 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1239379443; bh=UP4OYAdivLB2CUzaIRn5ffDKc1OKBaJGU8l+fSTCm3A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49DF6DEC.7010706@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2010=20Apr=202009=2017:03:56=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090407)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20ipfreak@yahoo.com|CC:=20freebsd=20general=20quest ions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20loader.con f|References:=20<493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>|In-R eply-To:=20<493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>|X-Enigmai l-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3 Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0 D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig66962C36A63CBDF8D19A8564"; b=2NNc0nXrn+cUZ0Ej/k9iSU202nBeTNMg4Nj5AeotKW6PDEs4QKIPxKZiC4pjTZm2l ToHl02ZxdKZWcqCNePBNghN1rQhT3fOF8n/0SSi0Vi6ILbvZ8/2M4dDCBXwENibWHf DBHTEFYU7YnNpBfdzbJlCfXjgYLPGd8+sZcywsJU= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49DF6DEC.7010706@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:03:56 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090407) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfreak@yahoo.com References: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig66962C36A63CBDF8D19A8564" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:04:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig66962C36A63CBDF8D19A8564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gahn wrote: > Hi all: >=20 > I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a l= ine: >=20 > #hw.physmem=3D"1G" # Limit physical memory. See loader(8= ) >=20 > Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? >=20 > Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of "hw.physmem" is no= t changeable. >=20 > Any guru here give me some enlightenment? hw.physmem is a loader tunable: ie. you can only set it from the boot loader before the kernel is fully operational. Once the kernel is runnin= g it can't be altered. hw.physmem is designed to let you test running a kernel with less RAM than is physically installed in a machine. Not having to pop the case and physically pull memory sticks out can be pretty useful. It's not of general interest -- only for kernel and various other software developers= in the main -- as the usual thing is to make use of all the RAM you have available or (in the case of 32bit machines) that the system is capable o= f addressing.=20 If hw.physmem is unset in loader.conf the kernel will automatically use a= ll the memory available to it: this is the correct and desirable behaviour f= or the vast majority of systems. For a 2GB machine, that means the system w= ill use all the RAM that's installed. 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When configuring Pidgin, I > use > mplayer %s > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's > volume is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway > to have a bigger sound in Pidgin? > > Thank you! I use the same method you do. Just a tip: since you use mplayer, as opposed to the default gstreamer, you can clear a *lot* of cruft from your system by reconfiguring the pidgin port and turning off the gstreamer option, re-installing pidgin, then uninstalling the gstreamer stuff. I find that the ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves port is execllent for such cleaning. Onto your question. I have two thoughts. First, make sure that /usr/sbin/mixer shows "vol" and "pcm" both at a a reasonable level. I find that 60:60 is usually sufficient for me, whether I used headphones or speakers. Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on the volume side. You may want to load them into something like audacity to increase their loudness. -- Geoff > PS: sorry for my terrible English :) No apologies needed. Your written English is excellent! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 16:57:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499A0106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC48FC1D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A0900073A6F8; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49DF7A74.2080206@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <49DF56C9.4080302@onetel.com> <20090410174516.85bade77.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090410174516.85bade77.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:27 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:13 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Is there a quick way to find out how big are the tarballs without >> downloading them all or adding them up one by one? > > I think it's possible to obtain an FTP ls listing and then use > awk to get the column with the size (in bytes) and add them, > printing the final result and maybe converting it into MB, GB > if needed. It's in /distinfo: chrisw@pcbsd% grep SIZE distinfo SIZE (vlc-0.8.6i.tar.bz2) = 11786172 > >> Would anyone want a five year old package? > > Yes, I would, because today's packages are sooo slooow. :-) Well my disk space estimate was way high, I didn't allow for the fact that not all packages would be upgraded each cycle, therefore the disk space requirement would be less. So maybe 500gb would do 10 years. Do you think you will be using 10 year old packages? By then you will have freecycled a computer that will run relatively newer apps. > > >> I did wonder if it would make sense to just use the PBI system. The >> number of packages depends to some extent on individuals volunteering to >> make and maintain them - true FreeBSD style. > > Allthough I prefer the traditional and well intended ways, I could > live with PBI as long as there's an automated way to install them, > read: command line, ability for batch processing. I simply don't > want to waste time for "Next, next, okay, next, next, next, reboot." :-) It's very easy actually. A widget, if so configured, tells you when there is an update for a PBI. You select it and click ok and that's about it. Reboot? This is not Windoze you know! :0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 17:08:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3C6106567C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5d.socket.net [216.106.26.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63B58FC21 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.200] (216.106.12.48.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.48]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF70F5F21F; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <59B09C72-3534-4A46-ABF2-1C4174FE4AFF@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20090409175954.GC90152@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:08:45 -0500 References: <18E2669B-9EC4-4F63-8B1C-E7D81EBDD607@socket.net> <20090409175954.GC90152@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:08:47 -0000 > It has to wait for completion to see the exit status. > Thanks. I misunderstood what I read. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 17:48:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D79106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038D28FC18 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1107004tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:48:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0WKGorRp5bcvx0v3NHpbuiXc+dUgGk0jkZ6btDJyQHE=; b=ec2qxGCla4lE7hLx84JNqjerVHbgJFIbG4ZUCboEHw+kPd6zws/PNsuUaMJX7RUIJV jmN96Wk1YFwhIVsb7gquQZ7F3dNCZS5OlCQxHxz7J6UgCEPsg5bpdZs4SWn891AegC2T 9CjNjWq0ctfIe2pww1DxyKn7bUBRx9pxSlk5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tjPZnvi0PQyznqxLMndOjTavrxSdvIlLkSiWbhaSocLevStSr+m+0ODR8aBnJyFUMk hGJHu9IJrnkggmfYaEPjBJ+HDO07PTi/ruU7yJQs8YDE5M3p3FcgCLenybcWeXKov5kS hbSfesjUST1WcrBXl1Mb038B4ie2gmDUFnMFM= Received: by 10.110.28.15 with SMTP id b15mr3216020tib.9.1239385699713; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.234.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm1494070tic.36.2009.04.10.10.48.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF86AF.9090707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:19:35 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amistry@am-productions.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: hplip port update to version 2.8.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:48:21 -0000 Hi, I am about to buy a new printer and my retailer strongly recommends HP's D1560 printer (USB). I am running ghostscript8-8.62_5 under FreeBSD 7.1 and I can't see this model listed anywhere in apsfilter. So I checked up the hplip site. The site says that the D1560 is indeed supported, but it also says that the minimum version of hplip required for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available is 2.8.2. Please check out http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.html The site actually lists hplip version 2.8.5 as the minimum requirement for the entire D15XX series, and a whole lot of other deskjet printers. Should I wait for a port update or do you think version 2.8.2 is capable of handling the printer ? -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 17:54:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6281065673 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2B78FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1166386ewy.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:54:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :user-agent; bh=t68DBnbBck9hykb2gEsvB4M0N2EKnIJyeYf1EcvaNmw=; b=RnelY59ifZR4+iwJf7CX4NagiVobH5v31UO41Iyb7Sau3OT/34p1aNT9kaBSgKJcSN h3LxDXTCoL1Vvq/AuZFWTyhM6iQLl7PISEyvRdt9CTG0hS+OL62WbkOn8OuyfBGz71Li FqzswTrdaM/QQ2gSbtmxG7Z3tzs03ECdTHa9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:user-agent; b=ACyY/wgE4WFVxmtfX0GNd+tmhivsvGRF7C1q9WwwVg8tsqL5cMA0F/am8yzAI7HoBu WOQhHxjX4KLHF6fqCLcV0g/I2RGy+XmOy5Zo8izDNZDVm19BYSlv1c03w2UUcUe/NkML Fi+d9oS5A2gavnkKjrbWEVc5gUSFwfWuu4xws= Received: by 10.216.21.76 with SMTP id q54mr932711weq.153.1239386048885; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.15.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t12sm4522761gvd.20.2009.04.10.10.54.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:52:06 +0300 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Subject: xfce4, flash freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:54:10 -0000 Hello, My sistem is a FreeBSD-7.1-STABLE with xfce4 on a pretty ok hardware (intel 2.66 Mhz, 1GB ram, etc.). The problem I'm having is flash player related. I have forefox3 and opera 9.x installed and in every one of them when playing flash movies (youtube, etc), every 10 or so seconds the video freezez (image stands still, just like when buffering) but the sound goes on. So I believe it has something to do with flash player. I installed it through nspluginwrapper (linux-flash-player). Any of you experienced anything similar? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:20:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730151065675 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BCCB8FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93421 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Apr 2009 18:20:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239387613; bh=1qYZ+dS4NhVPRQxe1+3EJAvMewZKjZr5dxV3gEWP3oI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mVV5c5+zargtlHmJU1NRFaS4uoGdBZPowaO7JYwRNgIxABt2SL+hNfiPZwDHnRzDOfEMuwrdOxIyda4NsG0k0YxSJMGGVdSucFz3/a6viJFG70ICubN2yCwN0biCMDdnoeQo4a/ZrsnvndlBVAS+CSoV7QzV4JLmQXE+ud+cV9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V/Dyrf6OYLjborEX8Sh8626jyTRbzd4KDyzCyTWhho3rrFG634cJd/25huKoqtvXuFLmfxNcBaNnhTfQWeuCi1x4xG2s9K1xT3oF3TLP+QR7TMdoSn72kahvx5VkZ3CjqUC0jysr2rQppxwa5chq5l6A1YPy6qNs88r1BmJbXQ8=; Message-ID: <352228.61716.qm@web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qllax4MVM1mMaJpv4aLRwzkf.Wb5x.g77LAf0kq0za_yByfTm7BZdpzCz1eS2GqcP4GGqiE_GgEHnHxTrKJYx0ds5BOOnYdMqwHPXijNG4gWl_vtT6H71pgnJh8YrlEHmwDgQqnsGwiwHwFIWE02kWjYzUP_1ebSilq8_VCoVTW79NEqnW2ShEJf4j_dn5YFacEXdE0adSCF2CAl2s5SSlgQiXWX3JqA6GNgDgkK5icC7mtIdAUWhignqsv7v6sYEt1Na9upa19FQfLSfwcUlnLwUKTNU.eNotJEsY9nkqFm6zE_r3.vv5hYtWIzilJ88p5XltXRALyPCseKn.t3cyI2WkaRrXOjaAGK Received: from [134.207.53.14] by web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <49DF6DEC.7010706@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:20:14 -0000 Thanks for the detailed information. Best --- On Fri, 4/10/09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > From: Matthew Seaman > Subject: Re: loader.conf > To: ipfreak@yahoo.com > Cc: "freebsd general questions" > Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 9:03 AM > gahn wrote: > > Hi all: > > > > I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file > loader.conf, there is a line: > > > > #hw.physmem="1G" # Limit > physical memory. See loader(8) > > > > Could I remove the "#" and change that to > "2G"? > > > > Interestingly, the sysctl indicates the parameter of > "hw.physmem" is not changeable. > > > > Any guru here give me some enlightenment? > > hw.physmem is a loader tunable: ie. you can only set it > from the boot > loader before the kernel is fully operational. Once the > kernel is running > it can't be altered. > > hw.physmem is designed to let you test running a kernel > with less RAM > than is physically installed in a machine. Not having to > pop the case > and physically pull memory sticks out can be pretty useful. > It's not of > general interest -- only for kernel and various other > software developers > in the main -- as the usual thing is to make use of all the > RAM you have > available or (in the case of 32bit machines) that the > system is capable of > addressing. > If hw.physmem is unset in loader.conf the kernel will > automatically use all > the memory available to it: this is the correct and > desirable behaviour for > the vast majority of systems. For a 2GB machine, that > means the system will > use all the RAM that's installed. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 > Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 > 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:35:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72D106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 974508FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92881 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2009 18:35:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=p88o8X+oRZbR5TV8wcXpUNJQDYGEj6Ee0ISUqbqPaWdN5mci1vJrb/x34RNlG/uKN27NuaFtDGeyXCU1fEICVhJmY/GKAyINKqD0eORb72l71Q+WKCh8CVeqXLOnTaw8FYaS0qaslQJE8qWmJMvWTx6rDXOE8fdKEfBALffbr6U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 18:35:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZJ0eiUAVM1lDEsgzVu1O9K.Sx29vrZyk01JG3Wj1n3Uj_iwFljNGsYZdziMUrZWdBkmBdjlSNk.JWgMyUkmIoqMT8tkxI3EjxKUlGxz6GNQ0iQTJgS7Fqa_4N.8Q6Si2in4QLIy.lqUztIsA.zT3GmPa8ZwWqbx7UPTpp2iNq7MDh3RGJ3mIJUnl5zHj9auhYdPjFgqDFkHkhp_YBlo3ztjIW0N9EC6kMwPyraFNJqrCJKK_Wb8x4HpPjoKwZcfaK6xx9NI2NbQbSQvczzCvjJLTd.17rzh0noJ3xlIChxmSNDiil0hrdTNcEJalyFXdWgY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:34:51 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090410143451.5712d27d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49DF86AF.9090707@gmail.com> References: <49DF86AF.9090707@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/PMPBUD5Pb6iFSfSvcgySx6a"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: hplip port update to version 2.8.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:04 -0000 --Sig_/PMPBUD5Pb6iFSfSvcgySx6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:19:35 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > >Hi, > >I am about to buy a new printer and my retailer strongly recommends >HP's D1560 printer (USB). I am running ghostscript8-8.62_5 under >FreeBSD 7.1 and I can't see this model listed anywhere in apsfilter. >So I checked up the hplip site. The site says that the D1560 is indeed >supported, but it also says that the minimum version of hplip required >for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available is 2.8.2. > >Please check out=20 >http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.h= tml > >The site actually lists hplip version 2.8.5 as the minimum requirement=20 >for the entire D15XX series, and a whole lot of other deskjet printers. > >Should I wait for a port update or do you think version 2.8.2 is >capable of handling the printer ? I think I would give some credence to the stated requirements on the site. In any case, did you contact the port maintainer about updating the port. If if doesn't get done before the port freeze, you will probably be screwed. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Political history is far too criminal a subject to be a fit thing to teach children. W. H. Auden --Sig_/PMPBUD5Pb6iFSfSvcgySx6a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknfkVUACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3SwACfT5JqZ+9l62uG+j5IFe6jAaeI 62MAnRaF8dVOtvjkAIAPOEFFQMtKpGbO =4CFa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/PMPBUD5Pb6iFSfSvcgySx6a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:52:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BD01065675 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6C48FC1A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3AIqsb3078488 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:52:53 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090322) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:52:56 -0000 I need to format NTFS partition to give HD to someone to write things on it under Windows. I tried to use mkntfs from ports/ntfsprogs but it didn't finish after an extremely long time, > 24hrs. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:09:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE36106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC118FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3AJ9vna009556; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:09:57 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3AJ9q8Z009547; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:09:52 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 27848BE71; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:02:37 -0400 (EDT) To: "Gary Gatten" In-reply-to: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> (Ggatten@waddell.com) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090410190237.27848BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:59 -0000 >> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:17 -0500, >> "Gary Gatten" said: G> I've been playing with various flavors of *nix off and on for almost twenty G> years, but not doing much development the make process often causes me G> issues - as is the case with samba. This is why I only use the ports system for small, simple builds like rsync. For anything major (Perl, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, Apache ...) I either use a pre-built package or build directly from source. I used these commands for my most recent Samba build: me% CC=gcc ./configure --with-acl-support \ --with-configdir=/usr/local/etc \ --prefix=/usr/local me% make root# make install I use a (fairly generic) script to handle starting and stopping Samba cleanly. It also handles log rotation. It's attached below, if you're interested. The "killpg" program used is derived from kill, but sends its signals to a process group instead of a process. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company You know you're a redneck if you've ever been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # # $Id: samba.server,v 1.1 2004/05/13 23:32:35 vogelke Exp $ # $Source: /doc/sitelog/fs001/services/RCS/samba.server,v $ # # NAME: # samba.server # # SYNOPSIS: # samba.server [start|stop|stat|restart|dologs|help] # samba.server -v # # DESCRIPTION: # Script file to start and stop Samba services. # "-v" means print the version and exit. # # Non-option argument is one of the following: # start -- starts Samba service # stop -- stops Samba service # stat -- displays status of Samba service # restart -- stops and restarts Samba # dologs -- stops Samba, moves log directory, restarts Samba # help -- this message # # INSTALLATION: # Put this in at least two places: where the system looks for # startup/shutdown files, and someplace where root can run it. # # AUTHOR: # Karl Vogel # Oasis Systems, Inc. # Based on "Life with qmail" script. PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH umask 022 tag=`basename $0` test -d /usr/bin || exit 0 # /usr not mounted logdir="/var/log/samba3" smprog=/usr/local/sbin/smbd nmprog=/usr/local/sbin/nmbd smsg="smbd daemon" nmsg="nmbd daemon" # echo without newline necho () { echo "$*" | tr -d '\012' } # exit with message die () { echo "fatal: $@" >& 2 exit 1 } # when this is run logmsg () { logfile=/var/log/$tag echo `date` $USER $* >>$logfile } killproc() { # kill the named process(es) pname=`basename $1` pfile="/usr/local/var/locks/$pname.pid" pid= test -f $pfile && pid=`cat $pfile` case "$pid" in "") echo "$pname not running" ;; *) for x in 15 1 9; do killpg -$x $pid sleep 1 done rm $pfile ;; esac } showproc() { # show the named process(es) pname=`basename $1` pfile="/usr/local/var/locks/$pname.pid" pid= test -f $pfile && pid=`cat $pfile` hdr="USER PID PPID PGID STARTED TIME COMMAND" popt='-axw -o user,pid,ppid,pgid,start,time,command' case "$pid" in "") return 1 ;; *) echo; echo "$hdr" ps $popt | grep $pname return 0 ;; esac } # print version version () { lsedscr='s/RCSfile: // s/.Date: // s/,v . .Revision: / v/ s/\$//g' lrevno='$RCSfile: samba.server,v $ $Revision: 1.1 $' lrevdate='$Date: 2004/05/13 23:32:35 $' echo "$lrevno $lrevdate" | sed -e "$lsedscr" } # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- case "$1" in start) if showproc $smprog then echo "$smsg already running" else necho "starting the $smsg" env - PATH="$PATH" $smprog -D echo "." fi if showproc $nmprog then echo "$nmsg already running" else necho "starting the $nmsg" env - PATH="$PATH" $nmprog -D echo "." fi ;; stop) # we can use smbstatus -p for this... killproc smbd killproc nmbd ;; stat) showproc $smprog && echo "$smsg running" showproc $nmprog && echo "$nmsg running" ;; restart) $0 stop sleep 3 $0 start ;; dologs) $0 stop symlink='/var/log/samba3' newlog=`date "+/space/logs/%Y/%m%d"` mkdir -p $newlog if test -d "$newlog"; then test -L $symlink && rm $symlink ln -s $newlog $symlink || echo "ln -s failed" >& 2 test -L $symlink || echo "$symlink not a link" >& 2 else echo "cannot mkdir $newlog" >& 2 fi ( cd /usr/local/var && mv log.nmbd log.nmbd.old && mv log.smbd log.smbd.old && touch log.nmbd log.smbd && chmod 640 log.nmbd && chmod 640 log.smbd && ) sleep 3 $0 start ;; help) cat < Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197D7106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BA38FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3AJTPFN024569; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:29:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3AJTOI8024566; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:29:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:29:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> Message-ID: References: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:29:44 -0000 > I need to format NTFS partition to give HD to someone to write things on it > under Windows. i would rather make FAT32 partition newfs_msdos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:30:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A40106570B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D657A8FC31 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3AJUDKP024580; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:30:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3AJUDxE024574; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:30:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:30:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: gahn In-Reply-To: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <493958.16188.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:30 -0000 > > Hi all: > > I have a machine with 2GB memory. in the file loader.conf, there is a line: > > #hw.physmem="1G" # Limit physical memory. See loader(8) > > Could I remove the "#" and change that to "2G"? # mean commented out. leave it as is or delete. you don't have to specify it unless you want intentionally reduce available memory. FreeBSD autodetects how much you have From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:30:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD631065734 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28ED98FC20 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so764681yxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=GVHtiPpg8K4bIPo7N+SMuZ9IKnKAejVOVSyoDCJBaTw=; b=PI1p5GDgRQCBg2Uh/P47RchJZ4D0fArvjDuGrCZ6t0S82cUScawhgjuqlL31PAkiN3 spyUxGOnKXDP88ZkXEDrBRa499LxGZVjXRu0Ulr513by9vQGe2q2sTada27UJco/Ac6R 2Nqa82c/iVydYZAINCChAOspHvn2Cpx06nZjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=xbQOHYswfHWS4wWfqR1NPhpULgjb1xAlGICFV6KCtkfRXsk1UprZE1DartH7kGBWlQ kFJGLdrJXOxIFjFZGBLGtilGleU8k73xOl+BRDQGopSAzguOeAxrAGFk+JV8VQTb0oEp xrBAmW/yqi8P7LGbBUZbirqTMQo8Fx+aVd9VM= Received: by 10.90.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr4856588agb.30.1239391849382; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2465025agc.54.2009.04.10.12.30.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF9E7A.4030300@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:31:06 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090410190237.27848BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <20090410190237.27848BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:30:51 -0000 Karl Vogel wrote: >>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:21:17 -0500, >>> "Gary Gatten" said: >>> > > G> I've been playing with various flavors of *nix off and on for almost twenty > G> years, but not doing much development the make process often causes me > G> issues - as is the case with samba. > > This is why I only use the ports system for small, simple builds like > rsync. For anything major (Perl, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, Apache ...) I either > use a pre-built package or build directly from source. I used these > commands for my most recent Samba build: > > me% CC=gcc ./configure --with-acl-support \ > --with-configdir=/usr/local/etc \ > --prefix=/usr/local > me% make > root# make install > > I use a (fairly generic) script to handle starting and stopping Samba > cleanly. It also handles log rotation. It's attached below, if you're > interested. The "killpg" program used is derived from kill, but sends its > signals to a process group instead of a process. > > How do you handle major builds that use FBSD specific patches....asterisk for example? -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:33:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65C91065899 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D198FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-21-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.21.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3AJXJF4088852; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF9EF9.6050809@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:33:13 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090322) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:33:21 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > i would rather make FAT32 partition Unfortunately FAT32 has a file size limit 2^32-1 bytes (~4GB) And I talk about HD 1TB and files might me larger. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:38:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6121E106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201C98FC0C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E993E1E3; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:38:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3AJceod001900; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:38:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:38:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: yuri@rawbw.com Message-Id: <20090410213840.6dbbac37.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49DF9EF9.6050809@rawbw.com> References: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> <49DF9EF9.6050809@rawbw.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:38:51 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:33:13 -0700, Yuri wrote: > Unfortunately FAT32 has a file size limit 2^32-1 bytes (~4GB) > And I talk about HD 1TB and files might me larger. The easiest way would be to format it inside a "Windows" PC that is NTFS capable. But I think your problem is that you don't have such a PC at hand... Maybe a (very overcomplicated) solution is to (install and then) run some kind of "Windows" in a VM and format the disk from there... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66BF106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EED48FC21 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0667D1FE; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:44:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3AJiE0Q001920; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:44:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:44:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Message-Id: <20090410214414.acc2dc6d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090410190237.27848BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793E92E@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090410190237.27848BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Gatten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:44:23 -0000 Just a small sidenote according to your shell script: You're defining # echo without newline necho () { echo "$*" | tr -d '\012' } Why don't you use echo -n which suppresses the newline instead of involving another program to do something that echo can do on its own? This is how FreeBSD does it in its system scripts. echo -n "Starting service... " start_service echo "done." And according to test -d /usr/bin || exit 0 # /usr not mounted Woudln't it be more compliant to exit 1 to signal an error due to /usr not being mounted? Exit code 0 is usually used to signal that no error has happened (successful program run), which isn't the case when the script is not (completely) run. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 20:06:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7B106567B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A838FC2C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id c6so794128rvf.31 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:06:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49DE1233.5080501@gmail.com> Received: by 10.114.103.1 with SMTP id a1mr758077wac.18.1239393961447; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001636457a9acf130c046738e4ee@google.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:06:01 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Ricardo Jesus , kyanh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Loading sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:06:02 -0000 On Apr 9, 2009 9:20am, Ricardo Jesus wrote: > You even need sound_load="YES" in the loader.conf. snd_via8234 pulls it > upon loading. Yup, pathetic that I missed it, but that's what I was missing. Thanks everyone. I've added "_load" to the lines. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 21:07:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8698A106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C98098FC1D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:40:26 -0000 Message-ID: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:40:08 +0100 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090407) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: disk usage statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:07:02 -0000 Hello. Could you suggest me how can I get my disk usage statistics in terms of percentage of the possible disk activity (like in gstat) or megabytes per second (like in iostat), please? I need something that gives actual usage statistics, not any averages. And something that prints what I want and quits (not like gstat in default mode). It have to be available for unprivileged user and I don't want to use any temporally files in the process. The closest I can get is (last column of): iostat -c 2 -d ad0 | tail -n 1 Problem is that it takes two seconds, which is not acceptable for me because I want it's output to be printed in status bar beside date and time. I'm using wmii window manager. Any suggestions and hints are very welcome. Michal -- "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." -Napoleon Bonaparte From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:06:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FBA106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7248FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0DD0EBC0A; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:05:59 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Michal Message-Id: <20090410180559.71f554ec.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> References: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk usage statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:06:01 -0000 Michal wrote: > > Could you suggest me how can I get my disk usage statistics in terms of > percentage of the possible disk activity (like in gstat) or megabytes > per second (like in iostat), please? > > I need something that gives actual usage statistics, not any averages. > And something that prints what I want and quits (not like gstat in > default mode). It have to be available for unprivileged user and I don't > want to use any temporally files in the process. > > The closest I can get is (last column of): > iostat -c 2 -d ad0 | tail -n 1 > > Problem is that it takes two seconds, which is not acceptable for me > because I want it's output to be printed in status bar beside date and > time. I'm using wmii window manager. > > Any suggestions and hints are very welcome. snmp? There's a command line client for net-snmp, and there are a variety of disk activity MIBs. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:12:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB33106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B058FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3AMC7gY025091; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3AMC6Jm025088; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Michal In-Reply-To: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> Message-ID: References: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk usage statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:12:24 -0000 > Hello. > > Could you suggest me how can I get my disk usage statistics in terms of > percentage of the possible disk activity (like in gstat) or megabytes > per second (like in iostat), please? systat then type :vmstat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:17:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56F9106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dstegner@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4D68FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dstegner@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ql3H/dO+/RVog7Jh3mi2mDeLWsT/NIsncgBfoGllJIVmvjltAYFsxoovShn3ZJNq; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [64.183.64.219] (helo=xws001) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LsP2Q-0006as-QO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:17:31 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01c9ba2a$232b8fe0$69dea8c0@xws001> From: "Dave Stegner" To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:17:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 4844461f90b6f2561aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794142cc63d84f4b01a6f46606436cc41e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.183.64.219 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:20:12 +0000 Subject: ULE scheduler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:17:32 -0000 have a stock 7.0 release. I rebuilt the kernel with ULE scheduler, I think. How can I tell if it is running ULE or 4BSD?? David R. Stegner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:26:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57E51065670 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3278FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC49916C004B; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:26:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3AMPx7m002965; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:26:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:25:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Dave Stegner" Message-Id: <20090411002559.b346d111.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <001c01c9ba2a$232b8fe0$69dea8c0@xws001> References: <001c01c9ba2a$232b8fe0$69dea8c0@xws001> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ULE scheduler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:08 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:17:28 -0700, "Dave Stegner" wrote: > I rebuilt the kernel with ULE scheduler, I think. > > How can I tell if it is running ULE or 4BSD?? I think that's what you're looking for: % sysctl kern.sched.name kern.sched.name: ULE -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:34:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A81106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00768FC1C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3AMYDkE096762; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:34:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3AMYDgX096759; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:34:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:34:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xfce4, flash freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:34:15 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > My sistem is a FreeBSD-7.1-STABLE with xfce4 on a pretty ok hardware (intel > 2.66 Mhz, 1GB ram, etc.). The problem I'm having is flash player related. I > have forefox3 and opera 9.x installed and in every one of them when playing > flash movies (youtube, etc), every 10 or so seconds the video freezez (image > stands still, just like when buffering) but the sound goes on. So I believe > it has something to do with flash player. I don't see that problem with xfce4, firefox3, and flash video, but this is on a Radeon X1650. Possibly a problem with your X video driver. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 22:53:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC20106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB81D8FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1246057fxm.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=QMVpcjEXG36FnbRJTvgd7wYNj/ZSJh/TcNlmp1/3dTw=; b=P6fpsFoxgKCJ9GRRtat8MssMJmg2PX5O886UVVaZ57ivSUZIvTT0T8CmLyxRGVm9zl 6r1xYxDRMZ5IUITzHVR2TeoiWv+XWSfWoZNwIPhXF48DY5ZRTLqcuAp+RPxdoK6v3tHC vgzjpny8Faz+O6b1r8noVAieokP1x0gVIvbus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=H/7b0xL7FwJzAL9giZGnSkQ9sItL7kAR7k48yomTlABVLmoDJ8TGna9Tvyxu7FjG7h OealRT9TyKnEJbCOiMFlP6ImJkV7CAilEcE1+CLCYiw+fIDBnHm8Yw8ODxqS9ovr/tKN 6fIBAGVb2fYQAMgyChBOE612aIH0Zi6UsiF+M= Received: by 10.103.24.17 with SMTP id b17mr2093958muj.21.1239403984893; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.14.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm4084718mue.24.2009.04.10.15.53.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:51:02 +0300 To: "Warren Block" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xfce4, flash freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:53:06 -0000 > I don't see that problem with xfce4, firefox3, and flash video, but this > is on a Radeon X1650. Possibly a problem with your X video driver. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Mine is a Nvidia fx5500 (agp). Tbh, I quite forgot to check the driver; will do that, thx for the memory refresh. Then again it could be some hardware failuri, because some month ago i had to change 4 condensers on the video bord. Will check them both out. Thx again. C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 23:46:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1EF106564A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE9A8FC16 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA900808BA6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <49DFDA65.1030409@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:46:45 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:46:47 -0000 Ok here's an improved description of how it works. The key to the whole thing is the snapshot of the ports tree. Everything else follows from that. Build process: A predetermined set of packages is built from a ports tree. The most benefit comes with packages which would acceptable for use with the default config and require a lot of compile time (large distfiles and/or lots of dependencies). This probably means xorg, window managers, desktop environments and applications plus dependencies and libraries. The ports tree is not updated during this process. The ports tree and package tarballs are made available online as a ports-snapshot which is tagged to identify it. The tag could be a text file with a date in it which lives in the snapshot directory. This cycle is repeated at some suitable interval, by taking a new ports tree and building packages for any ports that have been updated in the meantime. (The actual build process could be done by one of the ports-mgmt tools which would take care of only updating changed ports or ports whose dependencies had changed). The new packages and the ports tree used to create them are tagged as a new snapshot. How to use: For a fresh install a user installs FreeBSD then downloads the tagged ports tree. S/he can then install packages from the ports-snapshot knowing that everything is in sync versionwise. At this stage the selection of packages is down to the user (plus dependencies will automatically be pulled in). Additional ports that are not in the snapshot can be installed using the normal ports mechanism and they will automatically be in sync. For an existing install, when a new ports-snapshot is available changed packages can be installed using some utility (call it ports-update) which downloads and installs the ports tree and tag file from the snapshot, checks versions of installed packages and upgrades accordingly. People can choose to upgrade frequently or infrequently. By choosing a tag users can choose to upgrade to the most recent ports-snapshot or an intermediate one. At this stage the selection of packages to upgrade is by ports-update. ports-update compares the version of each installed package with the one in the ports-snapshot. If a newer version exists ports-update installs it. Any installed packages which are not in the ports-snapshot are ignored. If a user wants to install or upgrade ports which are not in the ports-snapshot this can be done with the standard ports mechanism. As the bigger ports are already available as packages in the ports-snapshot any additional ports will be relatively quicker to install by building from source. If a port is being installed or upgraded and it has a dependency which has been installed from the snapshot the dependency port will be the right version and the new port will integrate perfectly. Thanks for reading this far Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 23:58:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82786106566B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED1A8FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177240130.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.240.130]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv5w-1LsQbl0z7s-0001Mk; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:58:05 +0200 Message-ID: <49DFDD0B.9040602@janh.de> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:58:03 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri References: 49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NpmR9ReAf+f543CZ9h6Mgt5itI0WKu5VW5ML 0DDk6J9FH7rnbZHgDYAjVXN+CZn51xm6gTRImBAZcyBjo/zY2E YoTood9YyOim1TS9OhKGQ== Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:58:07 -0000 Yuri wrote: > I need to format NTFS partition to give HD to someone to write things mkntfs from sysutils/ntfsprogs should do it. (I did use mkntfs successfully with the 1.13.1 version, but never tried with 2.0.0. ntfsresize from 2.0.0 failed for me when 1.13.1 did work.) Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 00:07:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0519F1065670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from warped.bluecherry.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:440:eeee:fffb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D3F8FC12 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (adsl-67-212-212.shv.bellsouth.net [98.67.212.212]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by warped.bluecherry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4003A804B028; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3B06eMm004998; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:06:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:06:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Wes Morgan To: kyanh In-Reply-To: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> Message-ID: References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:08 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, kyanh wrote: > Hello all, > > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use > mplayer %s > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin? > > Thank you! I would recommend installing the audio/normalize port, and using that to increase the volume of the sound files. If you don't want to alter the audio files, try using this as your sound command: mplayer -af volume=20 %s From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 00:12:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71C9106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9740F8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so816224ywh.13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:12:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i3QCIhZoPkIVKZl4DOxC8osxkjpn/HEn6ZZQq/xxYec=; b=EFEoBRdVTNhXbDkuE/V8gVokicT90A08O/6nlgY/b3EsOm0mvdrasyvlSDTFoNt374 //CsKV0YpbdL54QVSgXKvBEc2IynkMEEXjBzdpvYnGT51M8F4fFSCNMrkTqOmHenk4Dd gDi+1K0ezV6S9xzHmTZSVCcJlO7yXppJWeOxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=I99TeVF0XToRshtQMn5Puj1hqq2xogrT7LDV8n7HcpLSdzndK8OKZw23JBLBp38EZE bE7zzaBnX5nBR+pzJRYvIyINtfcshqttSDJOYYiAJw14o1z5IfURX/sLi6cm2jnQN3Pv cRE4kShM5Zmuy6IaszA0zeGiGbfuelthYAeBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.8.17 with SMTP id 17mr3805079anh.7.1239406851562; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:40:51 -0300 Message-ID: From: Agus To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:12:27 -0000 Hi guys, Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i noticed it cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su... /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by "-su" Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but then again, this one when using sendmail.. /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not found, required by "send-mail" I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months... what can it be? the files i have are.. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 92K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so -> libsasl2.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 39K Aug 23 2008 libintl.so.8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12B Aug 23 2008 libintl.so -> libintl.so.8 I really dont know what is happening .... thanks to anyone who can clariffy this... I really dont know what /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is doing? I figure that the binarys complaining arent findind this libs... i really dunno... Thanks a lot in advance... Also i mention that this is a public server where i offer free shell services .... i dont think a normal/unprivileged user could have done mess with it right? Cheers, Agustin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 00:29:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63961065674 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9978FC19 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA90080D87C; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:29:30 +0100 Message-ID: <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:29:30 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:29:33 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > Manolis, > > Thanks again for taking the time for this. > > [snip] > >> The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still >> working on the web content. >> >> Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and >> success stories!) either on the list or directly. If this proves to be >> successful, we could also build and host other packages as well. >> > > > Any problems with the site, please contact me so I can notify my > hosting provider, as I don't have physical access to the server. > > > Thanks! > Hi guys, When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'. The original post is here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html. A more detailed description is here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html And other peoples comments in between. It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are doing? I could at least do some building of packages. One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could probably knock up a framework to start from though. If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be interesting to ask people to give us a list of their installed packages to create a master list. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 00:57:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB9E106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AA18FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so1188551rvb.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HjTh7n1laLUsPtO1aT+KksCw9TZUwqomSPHuAxq46ws=; b=bd4QWbB3xmQ6l05JgusHjbyuhm3OmMn7QksfKn2vxCq8TuqLEfM/BOL73W3bwHwl+n ytY0dtWAG54VVfMxm0w5k7eFtSdvv3OzECwPTDDTaAFHmlAtMEdyPQXIvP/YlnERTsof AcmRTAJ+ZVfdLMmyzM2le+2LhN1mtak5elVBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bISjlLAo7nXZQZTb6VhAnefKO8Iz5AT7FH6Ua/GF0WVA5yDFvHv9CPar1KqaGcfPR/ vzMysm0RqfGQOErtDVJO0aHWC4o/Jpd5epLEqaEiHd7/qzD44gVDmu/2fyqEjdk95xLi U/bJbbndjud9bK7mUsZQAvqtbYWUELVWn320k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.193.16 with SMTP id q16mr1682900rvf.38.1239411440356; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:57:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904101757m31e977ddxfa02c9d94d3ca5a4@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:57:21 -0000 Hi, Chris. On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for > changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports equivalent > of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'. > [snip] I actually have been watching that thread. I am intrigued by what you are trying to do, but I think it's veering into the "difficult to maintain" territory. > > It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have > already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting > > Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are doing? I > could at least do some building of packages. > What specifically do you have in mind? A "side project" to the FreeBSD pkg_add(1) tool or a separate collection of the Makefiles for the ports tree? > One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've called > ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who would be > interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD way is to do it > yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could probably knock up a > framework to start from though. > I have (very little) C skills -- I'm an OOP guy. I have less skill with shell scripting. Either way, between ${REAL_JOB} and ${UNIVERSITY}, my "free time" is ... well... usually, not free. > If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be interesting to > ask people to give us a list of their installed packages to create a master > list. > I'm more than happy to create space for this type of project, but keep in mind -- the pkg_add(1) tool will grab binary builds of software from the ports tree that is usually built with default options. What about that one user that wants -DNO_NETHACK for sysutils/screen, or the user (me) that has no need for IPv6 options enabled for most things? This seems like an exact mirror of pkg_add(1) in how it works, and IMHO would be impossible to keep a current (let alone versioned) collection of packages with every possible compile-time option. Of course, unless I am misunderstanding your intentions. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 01:23:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939971065670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603908FC1B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1123232wfg.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=adqbisQk+4nvOJOglYjHFffh6EiDbleLfU08rsrR7fc=; b=vb1sVT5jH0MjL0V3nAskVMwiMNwhhcYssvCdlr7uaZWiwdx/Q27jHAymhBTwvlQy4o 3lfQGwJbe8GZHsy8IzXv6ZcWEE+HxADrAzc4UdAzalIZwzsse5So1lF8p+RquUF8lGse 4FBMkL929j4rnYkJ/Tdu2zbE1Q0fCmeXkAAk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZWOaDJXkFhFZKRL1By8ROXeQj3sn0CDypZhxbO+aOp60/spSwceBBaO2JDaU67nZgy I0uI+xDMZl8p1fgj20phhK8EjgftJnym2/3MLmZ1JWD4xJ/YnvVnyCg0MvxXbl/USsox LaYh2/BElX+I1HhUrcPGHphbaZGUhkdV80oY0= Received: by 10.142.13.14 with SMTP id 14mr1578363wfm.52.1239413018788; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.76.77.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm6232720wfa.10.2009.04.10.18.23.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:23:26 +0700 From: kyanh To: Wes Morgan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090411082326.2dd59fb3@icy.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:23:39 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:06:39 -0500 (CDT) Wes Morgan wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, kyanh wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring > > Pidgin, I use mplayer %s > > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as > > pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost > > 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin? > > > > Thank you! > > I would recommend installing the audio/normalize port, and using > that to increase the volume of the sound files. If you don't want > to alter the audio files, try using this as your sound command: > > mplayer -af volume=20 %s Thank you. I didn't read carefully mplayer's man page. When I use `mplayer -af volume=n` within `n > 10`, I get so much noises. The acceptable value is 9 or 10. The sound files are taken from default installation of Pidgin, and I shouldnot ormalize them :) -- unless I want some lourder notifications. Regards, -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 01:35:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA8C106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EC48FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1125743wfg.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U0T6I4PQv6r/oo0MLq+Quzvuu55PeUdxQYXvmg19P8s=; b=RJBIqIm/1y02+FTgJS6B37UArEAVV6osrY5o2vNKgl/3NUEzGQg+Esf4w8my0/ZDut JH0a0/Qmhmst9UyBw8XdtVCs/Gv/xrudSjb56TTe6brq/KKE4BIzqIroDmIcv99pLUF2 QATAdmdBipY36Bczwxb+K4ruqQOIBQgfJt3R8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vPi3ot72SkiqptwtaoA/hDn3BfYIn418AYCw5j3Kr/6JNk8t5BFCeVm0RGzXNv4akf mkP1gpft2D+g4eiBwbeRYQggbKaHykkboP3tETLsEwtf0R8xO82fPPzHVfUDajkcgoCw AJVL0CDWIje/GaOO96+mq/S3lsKoBHgOe4VIs= Received: by 10.142.185.21 with SMTP id i21mr1575030wff.220.1239413706082; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.76.77.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm6360333wfa.18.2009.04.10.18.35.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:34:51 +0700 From: kyanh To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090411083451.4dda0a46@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <20090410173504.e0f1eb2c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> <20090410173504.e0f1eb2c.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:35:06 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:04 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:35 +0700, kyanh wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring > > Pidgin, I use mplayer %s > > to make Pidgin play stuff. > > First, maybe mplayer is a bit "heavy stuff" for notification sounds. > What are these files? If they are *.wav, use "play %s" command, and > if they are *.mp3, use "madplay %s" or "mpg123 %s", as well as > "ogg123 %s" for *.ogg files. Check out the manpages for these > programs if you think you need further options. > I just use the default setting from Pidgin. I don't know what is the kind of sound though I guess that's *.wav. When I press "Browse" in Pidgin Configuration Page for Sound I don't get the right place of default sound file. Pidgin may use files from GTK collection. When I use Arch Linux I can use "play %s" but "play" isnot installed as default on FreeBSD. I install `mpg123` but I still get small sound. > > > > But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while > > the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a > > bigger sound in Pidgin? > > Check the other volumes as well. PCM should be 100:100, too. > If vol == 100:100 and pcm == 10:10, it will be very silent. :-) > I see. I often use vol == 90 and pcm == 75. > Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play > louder sounds? > The music and others sounds are normal. > > > > PS: sorry for my terrible English :) > > I'm not sure mine is better, don't mind. The guys on that list have > a lot of translational phantasy. :-) Thank you. I've learned from your message that I should use "louder" for sound instead of "bigger". Still find "smaller" sound :D -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 01:53:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86211065670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7187C8FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67203114DB for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:22:17 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at club.kyutech.ac.jp Received: from club.kyutech.ac.jp (rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.6]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E571E11477; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:21:55 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:21:54 +0900 From: Kouichiro Iwao To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090411012154.GA80296@club.kyutech.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp Subject: NX dumps core on 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:53:28 -0000 Hi. I asked freebsd-users-jp mailing list how to solve the problem below but nobody replied. I moved freebsd-question ml ask you. I'm in trouble using net/freenx port. My system is 7.1-RELEASE-p2 and I installed freenx from the ports tree. I already installed gnome desktop environment and I can use it on x11 console. $ pkg_info|grep nx freenx-0.6.0_1 Frontend (auth/session management) for nxserver libraries nxserver-2.1.0_2 Low-bandwidth X network server I installed nomachine's nxclient 3.3.0-6 to another linux system. Then I tried to connect to the freebsd system, nxclient shows error that "Session Startup File". After that, I logged into the freebsd system from the linux system with ssh x11 forwarding enabled and I executed nxagent. Then it dumped core. [meta@freebsd ~]$ /usr/local/NX/bin/nxagent NXAGENT - Version 2.1.0 Copyright (C) 2001, 2006 NoMachine. See http://www.nomachine.com/ for more information. Info: Agent running with pid '80414'. Session: Starting session at 'Sat Apr 11 09:57:36 2009'. Info: Detected window manager running. Assertion failed: (ret != inval_id), function _XAllocID, file xcb_io.c, line 378. Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) I guess this is why nxclient on linux raises session start up failed error. I can find "xcb_io.c" in nxagent's error message, so I did "portupgrade -rf \*xcb\* libX11 nxserver" but nothing's solved. I attach nxclient's log file. Please give me solution. Thanks. -- Iwao, Koichiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 01:56:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106E2106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AB28FC2F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1130481wfg.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QOeSRqZBDWHqhNvCICxiLtJ8tT9CkGIN8bm3QUOE/k4=; b=kYiDVHmRGV2dbVcCQfRaLUFr7r0aiydSvWGs2p7PFnld4IMlpxCpr6+xg5Ssm7g2XZ v1iFf9ZS1wwA0ixUHPimYMhm5JtsfXI2WJCuXLpI/iezBX5vO/1jO9TFj5/5IHj5/BaV F8cQgb5zv8RT4PGXkr383UKNG3g14EJxq772s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rMH6cdPj7eq+Dyw7OV/TQonaqgNDktrZZKEr0Nicl0WRwdzR0ycK0qvj/GRqJ9tI20 j39gRROkNnFdjdE3elk9Ct/yPBDXjk6y4nG8zJFqTBR3D2TmQ02ZvnX+4oWT4g5+Vlcl S+P4cjeG6O4b++7BUOcjv3BkADqqgiQEhJzrc= Received: by 10.142.185.21 with SMTP id i21mr1581080wff.220.1239414991565; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.76.77.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm6318726wff.35.2009.04.10.18.56.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:56:17 +0700 From: kyanh To: Geoff Fritz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090411085617.5142ab8b@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <20090410160704.GA57657@dev.null> References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> <20090410160704.GA57657@dev.null> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:56:32 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:07:04 -0600 Geoff Fritz wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:51:35PM +0700, kyanh wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring > > Pidgin, I use > > mplayer %s > > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as > > pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost > > 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin? > > > > Thank you! > > I use the same method you do. Just a tip: since you use mplayer, > as opposed to the default gstreamer, you can clear a *lot* of cruft > from your system by reconfiguring the pidgin port and turning off > the gstreamer option, re-installing pidgin, then uninstalling the > gstreamer stuff. I find that the ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves port is > execllent for such cleaning. > I wil try. Knowing `pkg_cutleaves` is a bonus :P > Onto your question. I have two thoughts. > > First, make sure that /usr/sbin/mixer shows "vol" and "pcm" both at > a a reasonable level. I find that 60:60 is usually sufficient for > me, whether I used headphones or speakers. > I did this before configuring Pidgin. > Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on > the volume side. You may want to load them into something like > audacity to increase their loudness. > The problem is that I use Pidgin's default sound files. I cannot locate those files (pkg_info -L pidgin). > > > PS: sorry for my terrible English :) > > No apologies needed. Your written English is excellent! Thank you for your helps and your kind words :) -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:06:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EE01065670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CF08FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6B211439 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:06:12 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at club.kyutech.ac.jp Received: from club.kyutech.ac.jp (rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.6]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBCB11436 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:06:00 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:05:59 +0900 From: Kouichiro Iwao To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090411020559.GB80296@club.kyutech.ac.jp> References: <20090411012154.GA80296@club.kyutech.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090411012154.GA80296@club.kyutech.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: NX dumps core on 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:06:14 -0000 Sorry, I was not sure how attached file is treated. Here's the log. http://www.club.kyutech.ac.jp/~meta/temp/nxserver_error.log -- Iwao, Koichiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:14:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8D4106566B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp129.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp129.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A74EE8FC14 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 23627 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2009 01:47:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=ESSUdNHMEMW+MaKsOqpuONMqFdwhTB23eYPdbPSFJMPduYB1Jue5hQMH7wknsxA2E8guSGw1QSAN3uW8pYfKrekr4PgNi9NXitUZdZURn8LqxgzyhTuqR3tCRtAYzLnIMu3Bo3gQdDZdVXJ5XMKSqWMQKVC9Tvd8Q31Sm1WQ/wI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@99.224.39.159 with login) by smtp129.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 01:47:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fY2uCCUVM1lELwjtBUgvKCFWO0_.9JpQogx.OsVmvUcdu.bIPKuz62OrhQzMi4M5Pw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tamouh Hakmi" To: "'Agus'" , "'FreeBSD Questions'" References: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:47:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4B6AD6D2B3FC4A22811916749D3D3108@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acm6OkLlSIRCT12vTn2VUzF3IvORmgADQ+7w In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: RE: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:14:19 -0000 You'd need to provide us with more details as your version #, what are = you running...etc. Try to ln -s to libintl.so.8 from other directories as well such as = /usr/libexec and /usr/local/libexec Tamouh=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Agus > Sent: April 10, 2009 7:41 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object=20 > "libintl.so.8" not found,required by errors >=20 > Hi guys, >=20 > Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i=20 > noticed it cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su... >=20 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found,=20 > required by "-su" >=20 > Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but=20 > then again, this one when using sendmail.. >=20 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not=20 > found, required by "send-mail" >=20 >=20 > I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months... > what can it be? the files i have are.. >=20 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 92K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so ->=20 > libsasl2.so.2 >=20 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 39K Aug 23 2008 libintl.so.8 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12B Aug 23 2008 libintl.so ->=20 > libintl.so.8 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I really dont know what is happening .... thanks to anyone=20 > who can clariffy this... I really dont know what=20 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is doing? > I figure that the binarys complaining arent findind this=20 > libs... i really dunno... >=20 > Thanks a lot in advance... >=20 > Also i mention that this is a public server where i offer=20 > free shell services .... i dont think a normal/unprivileged=20 > user could have done mess with it right? >=20 > Cheers, > Agustin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:19:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464DC106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DF18FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3B2G8ah018002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:16:08 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3B2J2wH098440; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:19:02 +0700 (ICT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:19:02 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904110219.n3B2J2wH098440@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd@edvax.de In-reply-to: <20090410213840.6dbbac37.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:38:40 +0200) References: <49DF9585.7020601@rawbw.com> <49DF9EF9.6050809@rawbw.com> <20090410213840.6dbbac37.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:19:30 -0000 Hi, > The easiest way would be to format it inside a "Windows" PC > that is NTFS capable. But I think your problem is that you > don't have such a PC at hand... > > Maybe a (very overcomplicated) solution is to (install and > then) run some kind of "Windows" in a VM and format the disk > from there... I am not sure that my reply is allowed here, but I recently found out that Hiren BooCD 9.8 includes a live version of XP... Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC48106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B08C8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1137034wfg.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4axO1BrbivFC86MwWFucL//5wo6c25vNvN1GajoxJ2c=; b=C83xUYIG+Po2bxEQeI3nZZYHQPXKWUndcycWI+Ur1ZqMp8eD05wwEC1a8HnYRTYIi4 Li3Q9JMlNXG2tPelQUemW4/TgEF+IEO9Rc4iT+dG/XKwW/Cm7FsyV5msttsTLoJDSMf4 NSxJRGgSobzPBUNWN1sLDoGZ2QtzC6kjeXXqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OSSE+tjeEPrZSAcVxyt1uXtaclbUrTI7veTiB+qJI9gSaPPK/F76z1y0CxF0/iD61U wiMmCyJ6C9Sxp9sqhUyk9rkINLor/9U/EXGaGLO0YzD9uKg7f3iVYfQRpNaaTKEq4QzH WSJX615gkF4jRzqlxbvYgr1ha71JwKjJBLv+w= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr1591958wfd.152.1239416656813; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([115.76.77.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 29sm6705196wfg.13.2009.04.10.19.24.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:45 +0700 From: kyanh To: Michael Heitmeier Message-ID: <20090411092345.4879e093@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <179292290904091114wcb86c40q1d394c18c7fe333b@mail.gmail.com> References: <179292290904091114wcb86c40q1d394c18c7fe333b@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error Message when starting Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:24:17 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:14:21 +0200 Michael Heitmeier wrote: > After installing Apache 2.2 it does not start and apachectl start > fails with the error message > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "xchgptr" not found, required by > "libapr-1.so.3" > > Searching on the Web and archives did not reveal anything, please > let me know how to resolve this, thanks! I don't exactly your problem but I think you can resolve the it by reinstall Apache22 from port cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 make; make deinstall install Good luck! -- Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:50:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625A0106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thenudnik@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171488FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thenudnik@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so836533yxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:50:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=tDe/MxvKr0l46cbp4hQ7QBiqi6PQjISA6zSiNGiZGU4=; b=sLjjAYb9GGYHvKZipdEosEd6CuHw2b4p0a054MO+kC7x00qq865/WmnQDACUTTuXHI pGqaklfQ6lKzQTFB719wBbRyo+12LOW1UD/UhbF/c0R+WD8LB0FccKDGG+O7ZgGaW5OB UZvLqqc0FBDxxODeHZK3xAh+J+vCCVvuvTQaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=UMp7goWmhqpsSXvrVJ1Jh6eC9iCblV9+a/SuoAMBE0O8OzAV4DWOWVB8sYPNQf7AGv 9LMn87p35hEGoAoD9ef8WYO4iZnWVRXlZoo8sQrJ1lxURXuFz1ws1JgFvTrnmnm402aO I8hqHRaJx+iExeDrGQRfVXM/QwAOM7ZJYgYI4= Received: by 10.100.189.10 with SMTP id m10mr3523797anf.153.1239416650490; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcppc0.hourly (fl-67-232-249-125.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [67.232.249.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c23sm7391750ana.3.2009.04.10.19.24.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DFFF3E.10709@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:23:58 -0400 From: "David M. Patronis" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Deluge 1.1.5 From FreshPorts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:50:19 -0000 *I thought it might be of interest that a recent change to the Makefile for this port caused a build to halt with error code -1, "gcc43" failure. I'm using 7.1 AMD64. When I replaced the Makefile with the previous version (1.54) everything went smoothly. I think this might be the line that caused the abort: - Add USE_GCC=4.3+ to fix building with boost 1.37. Just wanted to make others aware in the event this is a common problem on AMD64. --David * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 04:02:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FB21065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08C8FC1D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so1234324rvb.43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N0tZF4/1fwJNiyRooWwfulY49sZxOH4l9JW/UMGDhFY=; b=GB5xJ+Yu3b/voFX6pPRBYrk7Nd0YCMpBCxVC0rYskAm6GZ45tTwmaZHNjPxMzBPDKk YT5KbIGSR/bxJ0MhKK9lwCcsPUrXoYAt4hZnWCG8HkRRupx2u9fxXLDCciyJJzp/7ist vybjtNCU+r9sQ9xLkMPFmViW/Jx4z3W46a11o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QsOdjy49xl104yxhXd8XiuIzWC3tzmeVGx0OgQlYpnQoIHwvrfNeDs+pCz5pQMPFei UxaS3FK596N/4xuSdtPnSfv7sSLxB+YYspCn24lQ0SWLTie6qg4wM2tJvy+zHAW4aaai VKOL+q8slh4402a+zl7PfCCKp0luL6RzmF09k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.146.4 with SMTP id t4mr2164396wad.143.1239420942859; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:35:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: gabe g To: Agus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:02:50 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Agus wrote: > Hi guys, > > Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i noticed it > cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su... > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by > "-su" > > Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but then again, > this one when using sendmail.. > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not found, > required by "send-mail" > > > I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months... > what can it be? the files i have are.. > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 92K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so -> libsasl2.so.2 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 39K Aug 23 2008 libintl.so.8 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12B Aug 23 2008 libintl.so -> libintl.so.8 > > > > I really dont know what is happening .... thanks to anyone who can > clariffy this... I really dont know what /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is > doing? > I figure that the binarys complaining arent findind this libs... i > really dunno... > > Thanks a lot in advance... > > Also i mention that this is a public server where i offer free shell > services .... i dont think a normal/unprivileged user could have done > mess with it right? > > Cheers, > Agustin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Don't clog your system with symlinks, look at the manpage for "libmap.conf" (man libmap.conf) or http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=libmap.conf&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE. Good luck, Gabe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 04:35:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B785106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1F78FC1D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1244123tia.3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:35:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EWxpCvDuRjSnW6GCzc/lK16pZ7kpQa6Levkp2R64FtM=; b=h4nns7lBkdQ1/+oycR0PeLpG+A/iVC3Yv46zkGNm0U9ODX8TaxDosc8F8Ce1ITxa2t OJcGrBTGA/QBijy9HnE/6RNvm4FywzY78spmSqEbceoyC9yLuKftnHvymFMgrhxovhJ2 M4OzX2bPVYldQ7TvXFnXaBUK4LTL/bLDqt+5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jNrRaP3xvay1uK4Y5NuOMdSdS2XgoQYEKvVtEi4Yuj36t8Cum8v+IsE2EKwsibBmss uJGRfi9BLgn8qkrb+y+taOdz5g94kZ/a8+AFH5Edhv4Lkc19N6dPXH1CRYnzoJhU2V7n 84UEpV8pBFzWfn8Tc8MAj+oR3jWJCkdqZnQ3s= Received: by 10.110.33.15 with SMTP id g15mr5877754tig.1.1239424524890; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u12sm3341666tia.26.2009.04.10.21.35.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E01E63.6040904@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:06:51 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gesbbb@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hplip port update to version 2.8.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:26 -0000 Hi Jerry, > I think I would give some credence to the stated requirements on the > site. The reason I raised the point was I know of people using D15XX (but where XX < 80) with hplip versions well below 2.8.5, and HP now claims 2.8.5 to be the minimum for those printers too, as well as for a whole lot of printers which are known to work with hplip versions less than 2.8.5. If I am not mistaken, the hplip site blindly states 2.8.5 as the minimum requirement for all printers of this class. Maybe this is just a convenient way of doing things for HP rather than figuring out each printer's actual minimum requirement. > In any case, did you contact the port maintainer about updating > the port. If if doesn't get done before the port freeze, you will > probably be screwed. > Sure I did. Although the response was not was particularly thrilling : > I am not sure when I'm going to get around to doing an update. If you > want to take a stab at an update I'll be happy to review any patches, > but you will probably need the newer version to get things working. > -- Anish Mistry amistry@am-productions.biz My previous mail to freebsd-questions was marked as To by mistake. It was only intended to be a CC. Sorry. If you reply, please CC me separately. It makes it so much easier for me to reply, if needed. BTW, I have never used hplip/CUPS before. I do hope it's not terribly complex to setup and go. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 07:21:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672F31065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500658FC1A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W21 ([65.55.154.56]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:21:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:31 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2009 07:21:32.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[23757FA0:01C9BA76] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:33 -0000 > From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server > Date: Fri=2C 10 Apr 2009 12:08:19 +0300 >=20 > On Fri=2C 10 Apr 2009 05:31:22 +0000=2C Da Rock wrote: > > I know this may be OT=2C but I could use some help on this one. I've > > completed a major changeover in network provider=2C and I've now got a > > proper static ip including ptr records for my mail server (the only > > service that really counts on this anyway). > > > > If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name=2C and > > YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > Pls cc as I'm not subscribed to the list via this account >=20 > Can you show us the *exact* deferral message? >=20 > It may be greylisting from the FreeBSD.org mail servers. >=20 Ok. This is the exact message: Apr 11 16:26:40 postfix/smtp[1325]: 488851744F: to=3D= =2C relay=3Dmx1.freebsd.org[69.147.= 83.52]:25=2C delay=3D100211=2C delays=3D100114/49/48/0.35=2C dsn=3D4.7.1=2C= status=3Ddeferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Clie= nt host rejected: cannot find your hostname=2C [] (in reply to RCPT = TO command)) This is not greylisting either=3B something should have gotten through by n= ow. I've just checked the mx record for the domain in question too- all goo= d. Server name in main.cf is set to the mx record of the domains served. What else is there? Cheers _________________________________________________________________ The new Windows Live Messenger has landed. Download it here. http://download.live.com/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 07:42:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37971106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA71F8FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3B7dKEg029194 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:39:20 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3B7gVXa084092; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:42:31 +0700 (ICT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:42:31 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904110742.n3B7gVXa084092@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Da Rock on Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:31 +0000) References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:42:34 -0000 > Apr 11 16:26:40 postfix/smtp[1325]: > 488851744F: to=, > relay=mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52]:25, delay=100211, > delays=100114/49/48/0.35, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred (host > mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: > cannot find your hostname, [] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) It seems like it is a DNS problem. Are you sure that: - your mail server gateway name resolves into your mail server gateway IP and - your mail server gateway IP reverse resolves to your mail server gateway name Both should be resolve properly. The check should be done outside of your own subnet, from an Internet Cafe (use Windows nslookup command, same syntax as nslookup on Unix) from home if you use a different ISP than for the machine that makes problem... You mention that you recently changed your IP, how recent is that recently? The old IP/name could be cached at FreeBSD. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 07:51:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDCD106572E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from dns.msk.asap.bg (dns.msk.asap.bg [78.90.206.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1045F8FC16 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [10.30.4.100] (unknown [78.90.167.18]) by dns.msk.asap.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D339819 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:51:12 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <49E04BDC.7050601@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:50:52 +0300 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:51:13 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > If I resolveip for my ip address it shows up my mail server name, and > YET I still get deferred rejection from the freebsd mx's. I had this problem before - freebsd mail server needs some time before it sees DNS changes...will be fine in a few hours. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 07:57:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DEC106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1817D8FC12 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W25 ([65.55.154.60]) by bay0-omc2-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:57:36 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:57:36 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200904110742.n3B7gVXa084092@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200904110742.n3B7gVXa084092@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2009 07:57:36.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DD494E0:01C9BA7B] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:57:37 -0000 > Date: Sat=2C 11 Apr 2009 14:42:31 +0700 > From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server >=20 > > Apr 11 16:26:40 postfix/smtp[1325]: > > 488851744F: to=3D=2C > > relay=3Dmx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52]:25=2C delay=3D100211=2C > > delays=3D100114/49/48/0.35=2C dsn=3D4.7.1=2C status=3Ddeferred (host > > mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: > > cannot find your hostname=2C [] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) >=20 > It seems like it is a DNS problem. >=20 > Are you sure that: >=20 > - your mail server gateway name resolves into your mail server gateway IP >=20 > and >=20 > - your mail server gateway IP reverse resolves to your mail server gatewa= y name >=20 > Both should be resolve properly. >=20 > The check should be done outside of your own subnet=2C from an Internet > Cafe (use Windows nslookup command=2C same syntax as nslookup on Unix) > from home if you use a different ISP than for the machine that makes > problem... >=20 > You mention that you recently changed your IP=2C how recent is that > recently? The old IP/name could be cached at FreeBSD. >=20 I thought it sounded like dns too. But I was under the impression that only= a reverse lookup was used against the Server name sent by postfix. I have = specifically requested a ptr record in the arpa zone=2C and I can run a res= olveip successfully here. Is my info wrong? Is the lookup done against more than just the Server name= set in main.cf? 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(ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:22:17 -0000 Message-ID: <49E05326.5080003@infosec.pl> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:21:58 +0100 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090407) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49DFAEA8.6060306@infosec.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: disk usage statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:22:18 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Could you suggest me how can I get my disk usage statistics in terms of >> percentage of the possible disk activity (like in gstat) or megabytes >> per second (like in iostat), please? > > systat > > then type > :vmstat > I need something not interactive, command that prints what it knows and quits. I want to use it's output in a script. Michal. -- "But all endings are also beginnings. We just don't know it at the time." -Mitch Albom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 08:29:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6398106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B3F8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 676A628427; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:29:12 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:29:12 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20090411082912.GA71658@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200904110742.n3B7gVXa084092@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:29:15 -0000 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 07:57:36AM +0000, Da Rock wrote: [...] > > I thought it sounded like dns too. But I was under the impression that only a reverse lookup was used against the Server name sent by postfix. I have specifically requested a ptr record in the arpa zone, and I can run a resolveip successfully here. > The reverse lookup is done against the IP connecting to FreeBSD mail servers. If you post your IP to the list (and it's really no big deal), we can easily check if it's okay. -- Jonathan Chen Once is dumb luck. Twice is coincidence. Three times and Somebody Is Trying To Tell You Something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 08:30:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB194106568F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433B28FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E47EB4A85; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EA345088; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:50 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AiNkIoFFyOJY; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl167-129.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.146.129]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECCA4503F; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3B8UnYU052827; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3B8UmGO052632; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Da Rock References: <87ws9szxj0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:30:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Da Rock's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:31 +0000") Message-ID: <87ocv33840.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Postfix rejects from Freebsd server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:30:52 -0000 --=-=-= On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:21:31 +0000, Da Rock wrote: >> Can you show us the *exact* deferral message? >> >> It may be greylisting from the FreeBSD.org mail servers. > > Ok. This is the exact message: > > Apr 11 16:26:40 postfix/smtp[1325]: > 488851744F: to=, > relay=mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52]:25, delay=100211, > delays=100114/49/48/0.35, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred (host > mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host > rejected: cannot find your hostname, [] (in reply to RCPT > TO command)) > > This is not greylisting either; something should have gotten through > by now. I've just checked the mx record for the domain in question > too- all good. > > Server name in main.cf is set to the mx record of the domains served. Unfortunately, this doesn't include the hostname and the IP address that mx1.freebsd.org failed to resolve. If you are worried about privacy issues and you don't want the IP address to appear in the mailing list archives, can you post it personally to me? Then I can check from *.freebsd.org machines to see if it resolves correctly both ways: from a hostname -> address and backwards. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkngVTgACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7b1TACfbFOrG0sDJJVlC6R/h0eGvIoH VagAnRb6MlaNJftJ737zJCamahNaSFc5 =Jh53 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 09:00:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5A8106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0751B8FC12 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1327252tia.3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=969hUb7/dzbLB2SdDzuVp6t8Skei6/aF2eBZAYeDiQI=; b=c6UYAjsBvaZE8ImqR1Vy3Zty1zop1sHiGJRYYyJNGA5gWmISKe3wjXVscS7f1bymX5 AtIuPOhW+/UtDgU4xKVzEd72C1fX9PDQY6rJWMeeYjj6/YVP4QNDmMI1sJxJJqjqUgBk lDGzNFHyDG6hCWeuFZtmVsLzIiJaqi3YnfNlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mscKGx59VvO/mwMspptcNegEDJc7y1GLAjfi7NkBrbyR4KU+wXOID6MzfPcNBreEZ6 jHnvoC1Vrdn6l40S/yr0VJh2fnVJEBJk8Kv4Uez0st59U7Py4ci3nRFiucJB0meyfR5r oRUo2/pTk2PBBmQ/OnTBiSgGGE2DnQL6kX9qk= Received: by 10.110.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr6051343tib.56.1239440418687; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d7sm818093tib.22.2009.04.11.02.00.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:31:37 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:00:20 -0000 Hi all, After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32 applications. However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a video application. What I looking for is something on these lines : 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -> /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso images for its benefit. 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it would be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play encrypted DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdcss and libdvdplay installed. 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD. Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple, HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 10:52:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5A2106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F388FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A759BEB5A0A; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0EB45088; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wSaI7Nt6Y1gP; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl167-129.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.146.129]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5524503F; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3BAqHZ7063497; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3BAqGfa063496; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: kyanh References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> <20090410160704.GA57657@dev.null> <20090411085617.5142ab8b@icy.local> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:52:16 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20090411085617.5142ab8b@icy.local> (kyanh's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:56:17 +0700") Message-ID: <871vrzea3j.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:52:19 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:56:17 +0700, kyanh wrote: >> Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on >> the volume side. You may want to load them into something like >> audacity to increase their loudness. > > The problem is that I use Pidgin's default sound files. I cannot > locate those files (pkg_info -L pidgin). IIRC, pidgin uses the sound files from libpurple: $ pkg_info -L libpurple-2\* | fgrep /sounds/ /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/logout.wav /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/receive.wav /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/send.wav $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 10:56:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767141065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092CC8FC19 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1363459ewy.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=D7tmoz/HH6ql0+jMZLuR8mqIHP0+HqEpLPGCV03EJGc=; b=lMrvupKL3bWFZmZxMfvTAvBPB/sMC6kXXmwKDFDqICb6PKUHaRN+vZah7W23yD4FGR b18S6QS12o6OhEQwocfjnyeSs3A9ZuzT3OwR98ja7jkpknesaIgzQNuYskiz7wqczmZb hrpmSW2etMW6FeZlYMWvdyTSdgE1I2y2t361A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Nsi9KbLe36rVHJ/upSQPgr71BNue15ZIO5Qady6vyb/M8G+mPpBvcbaqCQOaz7HpTH WR19mS16ntSW40mu3Rb9PBgKHQ0CyaEF/Ilm9x53JATZOzp8Iiqa0N424rnhrlOi8MrE VPD2lkyXspAC9HAgSx3M8HCwYGiMU/lDvt/X4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr401703ebj.7.1239447372216; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DFDD0B.9040602@janh.de> References: <49DFDD0B.9040602@janh.de> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:55:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jan Henrik Sylvester , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:56:13 -0000 2009/4/11 Jan Henrik Sylvester : > Yuri wrote: >> I need to format NTFS partition to give HD to someone to write things > > mkntfs from sysutils/ntfsprogs should do it. > Yuri had already written ONE LINE below your quote: > I tried to use mkntfs from ports/ntfsprogs but it didn't finish after an extremely long time, > 24hrs. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:04:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90C106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2C58FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1365092ewy.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:04:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xDjJ1QS5Wvd7Ce6pDE4hfBETScBVX3UteakPy76KMIE=; b=OED0t5ypxqBRChclTu1aCN6Q4tSXPHKFC7ppoIPpGpABc8taYeOxz87VnVfObEPx56 +i5QnpR+oVmOUZ/RVwgxbP4Khy9ThEbEDlOUJSX8ysMjIrGaL2LtIKQ5BizBLrqRz6Yg qf/CcJtqJR/TYJUBrPmGv8vphhq2BC9ycAjQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PdEU024oeWo4UqZNkV7Q7d2p1Cdxgfa67ImT69y6fhEa7veQDPdVpwqbICY/qI6Uyi R9r/rfCQVAcwXhsCGQmVDM10kUNT3Wmy3JgHL5lzW7c0km8Fr9pW1jHMB8PnGZHy6jK2 2pVWSa50W/D95w7d7hJBPAzA6uboKSQXI6o/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr238107ebg.30.1239447862190; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:04:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> References: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:07 +0100 Message-ID: To: Manish Jain , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0000 2009/4/11 Manish Jain : > > Hi all, > > After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from > Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this > forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and > now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish > to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the > purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based > systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32 > applications. > > However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which > takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a > video application. What I looking for is something on these lines : > > 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -> > /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after > decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can > play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs > partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If > necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more > accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso > images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if > the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso > images for its benefit. > > 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it would > be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play encrypted > DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdcss and > libdvdplay installed. > > 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio > playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version > 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD. > > Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple, > HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century. > > -- > Thank you and Regards > Manish Jain > invalid.pointer@gmail.com > +91-99830-62246 > > NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. > Have you tried vlc for video? I'm sure it's not something you've completely overlooked, but it's probably worth another. You seem settled on xmms, have you also tried out musicpd for music? You can use Sonata as a frontend, very nice to use, or even over HTTP. It also carries on fine should X crap out :) Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BAE106567A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gustafson.erik@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039298FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gustafson.erik@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1378375fxm.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HbFWIZjznUeHnkjSCOq6v7zAzmPaxgsGgJnNwNo+x/M=; b=TJS5X2jPTAWmDYWXF3CIGpSS6R6NUd8F3IVEI5Nyx5jdSQyNVluZb27Dz1K0MUG8nN i19BHqRr4YLEA4wIO5SX9m3Lpl9Ot0dRSGTXHSrfes8f+X80GAeAtquPYJKWMe9/NEl1 Mf2v2ZavIqn04lEmT8y50HMc6WmSUH2wSG5wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Bx9tvWIz5xR4XitrWrVQE8bZ1MlRsjNLXOKdvy5T6zb9/Xq4QonNlhLLl/EJeOLn4d yziXGyt2+fgLM0HB/h3iDLQzuG1ZELxuPNqIIvtZYWvFXOqhDVlVNrgIZypMmVeswlOS uOXTBo1OjSLSXK3RDnYlHZ4QwD9YPfBK+4nZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.71 with SMTP id r7mr1268997fap.59.1239446835604; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:47:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> References: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Erik Gustafson To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:18:09 -0000 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi all, > > After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from > Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this > forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and > now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish > to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the > purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based > systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32 > applications. > > However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which > takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a > video application. What I looking for is something on these lines : > > 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -> > /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after > decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can > play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs > partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If > necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more > accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso > images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if > the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso > images for its benefit. > > 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it > would be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play > encrypted DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, > libdvdcss and libdvdplay installed. > > 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio > playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version > 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD. > > Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple, > HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century. > Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I can't live without mplayer on my desktop and it usually "just works" on everything i try to play. If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer and you will find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends. Video playback and tv-out is one big reason why I dont use windows on my desktop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:27:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFDC1065690 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AD48FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177242128.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.242.128]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv1o-1LsbNA30Ow-000jKl; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:27:45 +0200 Message-ID: <49E07EB1.8090701@janh.de> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:27:45 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees References: <49DFDD0B.9040602@janh.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19SsV3slYrpw32LOotMUlF8I5623VWLT7MiI7l fH7YynPh+cA2DX77Q7a4NjD50m+fyYEld4qiEO5ylFWnu2Vo4Q JmSu2CTg7iveQhwX2J9xw== Cc: Yuri , questions-list freebsd , Alejandro Pulver Subject: Re: How to create NTFS file system from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:27:50 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/4/11 Jan Henrik Sylvester : >> Yuri wrote: >>> I need to format NTFS partition to give HD to someone to write things >> mkntfs from sysutils/ntfsprogs should do it. >> > > Yuri had already written ONE LINE below your quote: > >> I tried to use mkntfs from ports/ntfsprogs but it didn't finish after an extremely long time, > 24hrs. Yes, sorry, I totally failed to make my point, since I scrapped that line and forgot about it writing the mail. (The important part was in the parenthesis you removed.) My point is that I had problems with ntfsresize from ntfsprogs-2.0.0 not working, while ntfsresize from ntfsprogs-1.13.1 was doing just fine. (I hit that twice -- on different computers.) Thus, I would suggest to try mkntfs from ntfsprogs-1.13.1, if mkntfs from ntfsprogs-2.0.0 fails. If the older mkntfs works, it would be another reason to revive the old port. ntfsprogs-2.0.0 was criticized, for example in the thread ending with this posting: http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-May/msg02306.html A developer from ntfs-3g that formerly worked on ntfsprogs recommends to use the older version: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#ntfsprogs I do not really know who is right, but ntfs-3g is actively developed while ntfsprogs is not, other people seem to trust ntfs-3g more than the newer version of ntfsprogs, and the arguments of the ntfs-3g developer sound reasonable. I wrote about it last year (before I actually hit problems): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-August/050157.html The reply was that there are no new problems known with the 2.0.0 version: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-August/050406.html I would like to have ntfsprogs-1.13.1 back -- as ports/ntfsprogs1 or by reverting ports/ntfsprogs. Thus, Yuri, please try and report back. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:36:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5DC106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrei693@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66ECA8FC26 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrei693@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so677631fka.11 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:36:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2/Ut23N3dUifMC3WJMpFNn8KOO5iD4ojMyOY+df28EA=; b=XooMucJ2xyCEerXmDTlSwkVRIDDMhCyNcV1ADh3QISP4lKArsb/0az2fCh1JvZSERS /3IzPuWk/A0qdVNq0UsRIap1UYeClO5l4Wx0tRMUflkwLp3gE6xAc550bSYnhOtZiou9 8KHZqF9/WTsDAyd2Nz/ETKlyttkM/zhrLcP8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XxrOT5sMRa0c3M57D6vQsItfLRw7jwqXHpOJTCrBTxqwkyNwdc6g68CnuOGcjvrFf1 HrSrNCA3w8julLf0wEfm+ZeYL5hSfpToEHTnw0hJ626hlP+nXc9t4Q4uD8O3BwMUaCFL kIqfrYr8WtEABhKtbkYnSD9GMs6G5dF2BsCo0= Received: by 10.103.171.6 with SMTP id y6mr2309952muo.31.1239447964195; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([81.196.94.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm5100865muh.22.2009.04.11.04.06.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E079A1.9090901@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:06:09 +0300 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: csup vs freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:36:30 -0000 Hi all, I have a strange problem with csup and freebsd-update. I'm using 7.0-RELEASE-p11. If i do: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.0-RELEASE-p11. All seems ok, i'm up to date. But if i do: # csup -L 2 ./standard-supfile Parsing supfile "./standard-supfile" Connecting to cvsup.hu.FreeBSD.org Connected to 193.6.222.7 Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs Checkout src/contrib/lukemftpd/src/ftpd.c Checkout src/contrib/telnet/telnetd/sys_term.c Checkout src/libexec/ftpd/extern.h Checkout src/libexec/ftpd/ftpcmd.y Checkout src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.c Checkout src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S Checkout src/sys/conf/newvers.sh Checkout src/sys/dev/random/randomdev.c Checkout src/sys/dev/random/randomdev_soft.c Checkout src/sys/kern/kern_environment.c Checkout src/sys/kern/kern_time.c Checkout src/sys/kern/uipc_domain.c Checkout src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c Checkout src/sys/netinet/tcp.h Checkout src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c Checkout src/sys/netinet6/icmp6.c Checkout src/sys/netinet6/in6.h Checkout src/sys/netinet6/in6_proto.c Checkout src/sys/netinet6/nd6.h Checkout src/sys/netinet6/nd6_nbr.c Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully ./standard supfile is: *default host=cvsup.hu.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_0 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all If i do again a freebsd-update i get: # freebsd-update fetch install Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.0-RELEASE-p11: /usr/src/contrib/lukemftpd/src/ftpd.c /usr/src/contrib/telnet/telnetd/sys_term.c /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/extern.h /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpcmd.y /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.c /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh /usr/src/sys/dev/random/randomdev.c /usr/src/sys/dev/random/randomdev_soft.c /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_environment.c /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_time.c /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_domain.c /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp.h /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c /usr/src/sys/netinet6/icmp6.c /usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6.h /usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6_proto.c /usr/src/sys/netinet6/nd6.h /usr/src/sys/netinet6/nd6_nbr.c Installing updates... done. I know freebs-update is getting the correct files for release 7.0, but i don't understand where i go wrong with csup. If anyone can point the obvious that i can't see here please do. Thank you, -- Andrei Brezan 310280 Arad - Romania mobile <+40 740 089 315> email www From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:42:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933111065670 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B80A8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 07:42:12 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KTX19657; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 07:40:47 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18912.33214.985656.315991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:40:46 -0400 To: Erik Gustafson In-Reply-To: References: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:42:14 -0000 Erik Gustafson writes: > Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I > can't live without mplayer on my desktop and it usually "just > works" on everything i try to play. I use mplayer too, but (as far as I know) the list of supported codecs hasn't changed in several years. That's mostly not a problem, but there are certain file types (.wmvs I have been told are handled correctly by Windows Media Player 10/11; this may be a DRM thing) that completely do not play. > If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer > and you will find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends. Mplayer has a gui (gmplayer) but it's pretty minimal. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 13:48:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF866106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753B88FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so394109fge.12 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=52TZhXWU7W+ygjcOqcsfGIGvzJvXcgweaa4NnvUv2c8=; b=J0UW9LKRCFiYqyDo5KLYzqybMAevVReQuqqK9dmtFiUiVLjUnqAGzbB6/bjcvH/QEF frR2Pe6B0xNBBQpFQDw9JlbBozESxxclfJ9wOZJj+syKKQYzgW+K7GGlJFrmxocp4C9b zzd71evVyGw3nVIY0BmxSdtFpmBDYq1/RToPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qu0WayWOXDiyRLZD9bNDZBSCnrjaeGyZYwOwnxrC4p2WMcQfGyIH9GEBomjmQkPv+A Vc2N3k4MYO8srLsR0gVz6zMd7MxXO6bRxCZT4kBwS6IRZi0pkONNVcBr2X0I6739TCN3 dkeFvZClw9UoWJYZ+Q8qmDztMLiqGrOFaVjlQ= Received: by 10.86.70.3 with SMTP id s3mr129764fga.16.1239457719612; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472280.home.otenet.gr [94.71.125.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm3848283fgg.27.2009.04.11.06.48.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:48:37 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:48:41 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi guys, > > When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for > changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports > equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'. > > The original post is here > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html. > > > A more detailed description is here > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html > > > And other peoples comments in between. > > It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have > already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting > > Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are > doing? I could at least do some building of packages. > > One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've > called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who > would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD > way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could > probably knock up a framework to start from though. > > If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be > interesting to ask people to give us a list of their installed > packages to create a master list. > > Thanks > > Chris > I am following this discussion too. I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD desktop easier to build and less time consuming. Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday). The problem is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox. I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM) but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can download and use in the following way: - Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages (except maybe the linux binary compatibility) - Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to: - Install packages - Configure X and DE / WM - Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc) - Configure sound card (and more) All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD itself. Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc). This can actually be one of the menu options. Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync. I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE, firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more packages. If it generates enough interest in the community, we will then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 14:11:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629BC106566B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86578FC23 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1417022tia.3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9MkRVh//WkE554EqG37BD4xQ6w5ipiwXJabc7+aemfw=; b=YIQnxpkDvR7NTRWSsTYC+N0QWu59mVZeSeE51chZ6qEzzCxl4PGvHfKpoWZZnWYs0K z03dlvjTPr5M/mkUh9Qcx5zchvR61nwX8evhbZKyQInT+SEB50KK9vHmmiXRbAP4zC6z wdZ6dA5o4x1La86R5JNylYHR8nm7YI3U28H2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ATCRczPQk0TZT+dBOHwp605WWs9Ihi0UkUF3JWA7ExSx+KH0c2LMiKv97jYt9BfJkz wYuoBkkRiNtj7GnBCmxMS6A2nhI7uFUrrgNzBBUu6dp68OGv/P3aiFFaTWErxLaQBHXB pW6uTd472hJIUiifar2I5ZVT/Pb7uBdAuRtXM= Received: by 10.110.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr6315375tia.58.1239459072710; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y5sm1606446tia.17.2009.04.11.07.11.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E0A558.1010502@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:42:40 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> <18912.33214.985656.315991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18912.33214.985656.315991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erik Gustafson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:11:14 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Erik Gustafson writes: > > >> Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I >> can't live without mplayer on my desktop and it usually "just >> works" on everything i try to play. >> > > I use mplayer too, but (as far as I know) the list of supported > codecs hasn't changed in several years. That's mostly not a > problem, but there are certain file types (.wmvs I have been told > are handled correctly by Windows Media Player 10/11; this may be a > DRM thing) that completely do not play. > > >> If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer >> and you will find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends. >> > > Mplayer has a gui (gmplayer) but it's pretty minimal. > > > Robert Huff > > > Hello Robert / Erik, Thanks a lot. MPlayer certainly seems to come with strong credentials and recommendation. I am starting the build straight away. Since I am a die-hard gnomer, I'll go for gnome-mplayer as the frontend. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 14:16:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA03F106568A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C262E8FC1D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so898559yxm.13 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:16:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OoKcSmi0BHbeLftoDRnMVVQWNZa3dTutd14l8FCswXs=; b=kRiAFVH6Z23Ne6LFFIwtNeeMGw1PI8qfI1f8NhmRdOoAPXpQ6GLVzelVu2QhYQ19jW mBz3t/yrqiB2tjg/CgquJqZ6F14k9gXzqRuDNr6SwNWPnmCfkD0YRiJEKqE0Ab+9vfNA thDgpz4z66hGJtQMYPTg3sKBdiDCpZRAmVoQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ucc8jrf7wW41QmkTi7zZN9FbX96HGd4EpRFim+s5KaIUrI4lcnGeav314kFWtrCQYW Gjcr3f1B3K0f7tV0y1KILy514ZuxWkYi89NSVXK+efN5mSSy4Zr6knkLUIZrd8tOLyOw D9OYBkpYFTYLQnQaBcKhSYtPNoDhA6KQXv/tk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.242.20 with SMTP id p20mr513123anh.119.1239459404093; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:16:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:16:44 -0300 Message-ID: From: Agus To: gabe g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:16:46 -0000 2009/4/11 gabe g : > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Agus wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i noticed it >> cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su... >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required b= y >> "-su" >> >> Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but then again, >> this one when using sendmail.. >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not found, >> required by "send-mail" >> >> >> I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months... >> what can it be? the files i have are.. >> >> -rwxr-xr-x =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A092K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2 >> lrwxr-xr-x =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A013B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so -> lib= sasl2.so.2 >> >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A039K Aug 23 =A02008 libintl.so.8 >> lrwxr-xr-x =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A012B Aug 23 =A02008 libintl.so -> li= bintl.so.8 >> >> >> >> I really dont know what is happening .... thanks to anyone who can >> clariffy this... I really dont know what /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is >> doing? >> I figure that the binarys complaining arent findind this libs... i >> really dunno... >> >> Thanks a lot in advance... >> >> Also i mention that this is a public server where i offer free shell >> services .... i dont think a normal/unprivileged user could have done >> mess with it right? >> >> Cheers, >> Agustin >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Don't clog your system with symlinks, look at the manpage for "libmap.con= f" > (man libmap.conf) or > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dlibmap.conf&manpath=3DFreeBSD+= 7.1-RELEASE > . > > Good luck, > Gabe > Will read that... thanks :) Yes.. i remember i had forgotten the version of the OS once i sent it... im running FreeBSD everest 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Oct 9 13:54:44 ART 2008 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KEVEREST-6.3 i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 14:19:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A7F106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3145B8FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1418994tia.3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:19:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9uPbYif0YCO9whn1d9wD1W4Zi4HQ75g1Byovp/bd2dY=; b=L/11KzYmmD49OlxxG2HfC3BGWyozK8LTV3KK/4udozPq+Dn1x1n2EtAU7fXhdYbniC KoTarfBOCR5+GGHeK9tIr06+PoRXPVfRjMBoOut5b8OVmZwCe1hwvDYlLYBa61Sg4ul9 IUichnRAkbHHNdXoEhT9wLHsTv51RsCtzplD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hysi5B0qx5+NN3J2lhJxWg78O2j5aDzS/hDV7mvbwUx70gB72wKN77kTuA4rM6Dgor +1hHnkkxq4Fr1FXHNvw6dnZDaPkcIjGgsZULv706of4kVPy1LkCsYpEvB3KU39SzNDJl 8ZasisXbuvazNNkgsiPaOk2Gy1bWdb0aG5RX8= Received: by 10.110.53.14 with SMTP id b14mr6337073tia.47.1239459557961; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unxfbsdi.local.lan ([117.196.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d7sm739852tib.2.2009.04.11.07.19.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E0A73E.2030806@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:50:46 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: <49E05C71.5000403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:19:19 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/4/11 Manish Jain : > >> Hi all, >> >> After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from >> Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this >> forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and >> now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish >> to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the >> purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based >> systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32 >> applications. >> >> However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which >> takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a >> video application. What I looking for is something on these lines : >> >> 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -> >> /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after >> decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can >> play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs >> partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If >> necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more >> accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso >> images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if >> the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso >> images for its benefit. >> >> 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it would >> be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play encrypted >> DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdcss and >> libdvdplay installed. >> >> 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio >> playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version >> 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD. >> >> Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple, >> HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century. >> >> -- >> Thank you and Regards >> Manish Jain >> invalid.pointer@gmail.com >> +91-99830-62246 >> >> NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. >> >> > > Have you tried vlc for video? I'm sure it's not something you've > completely overlooked, but it's probably worth another. > > You seem settled on xmms, have you also tried out musicpd for music? > You can use Sonata as a frontend, very nice to use, or even over HTTP. > It also carries on fine should X crap out :) > > Chris > > > Hello Chris, Thanks for the input. I certainly am not settled on xmms. It's the only one I was aware of so far. Further to that, I WAS actually for something that could do without X, because I work a lot on the console. I'll start the musicpd build right away. -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 18:53:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B651065675 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: from s217.sureserver.com (s217.sureserver.com [203.194.200.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61208FC1A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@twincling.org) Received: (qmail 25140 invoked by uid 1002); 11 Apr 2009 18:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.10?) (saifi.khan@twincling.org@59.92.174.240) by s217.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 18:53:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:26:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@localhost To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 8.x, Xen 3.3.x Dom0 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:53:04 -0000 Hi: Does anybody know the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen 3.3.x ? The discussion threads on -xen and -virtualization are fairly sketchy on this topic. Any pointers or observations ? thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 18:59:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C785B106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E8C8FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-97-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.97.234]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3706450C; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:59:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3BIxaeg001492; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:59:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:59:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kyanh Message-Id: <20090411205936.51bddd13.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090411083451.4dda0a46@icy.local> References: <20090410205135.2a813f34@icy.local> <20090410173504.e0f1eb2c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090411083451.4dda0a46@icy.local> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound configuration for pidgin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:59:45 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:34:51 +0700, kyanh wrote: > I just use the default setting from Pidgin. I don't know what is > the kind of sound though I guess that's *.wav. For WAV files, the play command from the port audio/sox is fine. I think it's a bit "heavy" to employ mplayer for this simple job. > When I press "Browse" in Pidgin Configuration Page for Sound I > don't get the right place of default sound file. Pidgin may use > files from GTK collection. If you want to find this out, just check the configuration files of Pidgin and grep for "wav" or "mp3", you'll find where the files come from. > When I use Arch Linux I can use "play %s" but "play" isnot installed > as default on FreeBSD. Of course not, it doesn't belong to the operating system. :-) You can simply "pkg_add -r sox" to get this program. > I install `mpg123` but I still get small sound. The sound volume doesn't depend on the player. If the files are "weak", it may be useful to increase their audio level. > I see. I often use vol == 90 and pcm == 75. And you're sure that the audio isn't loud enough everywhere? Maybe the output level of your sound card - or nowadays a built-in sound card emulation through the CPU :-) - hasn't enough power for your speakers. (I don't have such trouble, I use a system with a separate amplifier.) > > Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play > > louder sounds? > > > > The music and others sounds are normal. So it really seems to be that a) Pidgin uses strange mixer settings on its own b) the files that Pidgin plays are too "weak" in terms of audio level. > Thank you. I've learned from your message that I should use > "louder" for sound instead of "bigger". Still find "smaller" > sound :D This is because the price of the mainboard is less expensive while the CPU temperature is hot. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:02:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F8E106567A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5820D8FC12 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090411190233.TQXI3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:02:33 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.103.31]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id eK2Z1b0020gfJ3405K2Zoe; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:02:33 -0400 Message-Id: <251E39DC-2EEE-4E43-9B4C-3F273B19AD09@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:02:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: /usr/bin/calendar in cgi script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:47 -0000 Hi, I have a cgi script on my website that runs: /usr/bin/calendar -f /usr/share/calendar/calendar.history Now, when I run that script in a terminal, the output is perfectly formatted, multiple lines (if there are multiple events on this date), date first, event, year. Just right. But, when I put that in an "include" statement in a webpage, the output is a single line, regardless of whether there are multiple events. You can see a bad example here: How can I make multiple events show on separate lines, like it does in terminal? -- Thanks, Charles Reasons it's great to be a guy... You get to think about sex 90% of your waking hours. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:09:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3611065674 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BBD8FC14 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 15:09:46 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PRV35351; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 15:07:46 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18912.60033.242203.912434@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:07:45 -0400 To: Charles Howse In-Reply-To: <251E39DC-2EEE-4E43-9B4C-3F273B19AD09@charter.net> References: <251E39DC-2EEE-4E43-9B4C-3F273B19AD09@charter.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: /usr/bin/calendar in cgi script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:09:47 -0000 Charles Howse writes: > Now, when I run that script in a terminal, the output is perfectly > formatted, multiple lines (if there are multiple events on this date), > date first, event, year. Just right. > > But, when I put that in an "include" statement in a webpage, the > output is a single line, regardless of whether there are multiple > events. > You can see a bad example here: > > > > How can I make multiple events show on separate lines, like it > does in terminal? Would I be correct in believing you're unfamiliar with html? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:36:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96DA106568B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074148FC45 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 82469 invoked by uid 89); 11 Apr 2009 19:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 19:12:40 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20090411150921.02e611b8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.pchotshots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:09:53 -0400 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Brad Mettee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: /usr/bin/calendar in cgi script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:36:47 -0000 You'll need to put it in a "
" html block to preserve the formatting. Or you can try to substitute the '\n' into '
' somehow (been a while since I did search/replace in an include so I can't be more specific). At 03:02 PM 4/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi, >I have a cgi script on my website that runs: > >/usr/bin/calendar -f /usr/share/calendar/calendar.history > >Now, when I run that script in a terminal, the output is perfectly >formatted, multiple lines (if there are multiple events on this date), >date first, event, year. Just right. > >But, when I put that in an "include" statement in a webpage, the >output is a single line, regardless of whether there are multiple >events. >You can see a bad example here: > > > >How can I make multiple events show on separate lines, like it does in >terminal? > > >-- >Thanks, >Charles > >Reasons it's great to be a guy... >You get to think about sex 90% of your waking hours. > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 20:01:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA171065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FCB8FC22 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090411200108.UPDH3344.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:01:08 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.103.31]) by imp11 with charter.net id eL171b0080gfJ3405L17ix; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:01:08 -0400 Message-Id: <845EB734-909E-4B97-9ABD-8ABBADFA291B@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <18912.60033.242203.912434@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:01:07 -0500 References: <251E39DC-2EEE-4E43-9B4C-3F273B19AD09@charter.net> <18912.60033.242203.912434@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: /usr/bin/calendar in cgi script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:01:09 -0000 On Apr 11, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Charles Howse writes: > >> Now, when I run that script in a terminal, the output is perfectly >> formatted, multiple lines (if there are multiple events on this >> date), >> date first, event, year. Just right. >> >> But, when I put that in an "include" statement in a webpage, the >> output is a single line, regardless of whether there are multiple >> events. >> You can see a bad example here: >> >> >> >> How can I make multiple events show on separate lines, like it >> does in terminal? > > Would I be correct in believing you're unfamiliar with html? You would most certainly NOT BE CORRECT. I've had my own server running Apache for years. I don't think this is something that can be solved with html tags, but I will try Brad's suggestions. Read man calendar about how it uses cpp, and how the calendar.* files are formatted. If I recall, I used this same technique years ago and had a simple, elegant way of solving it using some default tool like col, though that doesn't seem to work now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 20:48:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C479D106566C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834378FC1B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n3BKmgHA042068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n3BKmgRt042067; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00482; Sat, 11 Apr 09 13:42:18 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:40:19 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: cwhiteh@onetel.com, sonic2000gr@gmail.com Message-Id: <49e10033.nranDPhLy+Bjn3ry%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:48:44 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > I could also distribute the ports tree ... I wonder if it's necessary to distribute the entire ports tree. Perhaps it would suffice to distribute a timestamp for csup/cvsup to retrieve the appropriate version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 21:05:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD176106567F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4AA8FC19 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39F4E0081F07F; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:05:05 +0100 Message-ID: <49E10600.2040405@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:05:04 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:05:08 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for >> changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports >> equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'. >> >> The original post is here >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html. >> >> >> A more detailed description is here >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html >> >> >> And other peoples comments in between. >> >> It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have >> already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting >> >> Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are >> doing? I could at least do some building of packages. >> >> One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've >> called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who >> would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD >> way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could >> probably knock up a framework to start from though. >> >> If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be >> interesting to ask people to give us a list of their installed >> packages to create a master list. >> >> Thanks >> >> Chris >> > > I am following this discussion too. > I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD > desktop easier to build and less time consuming. > Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer > reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and > PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday). The problem > is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between > XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox. My motivation also, plus energy considerations. I was rolling my own using icewm but have recently been using PCBSD. I like PCBSD very much but I would go back to my previous setup with this project. > > I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine Are you using the tinderbox port or do you build in the machines own environment? > just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM) > but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am > close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can > download and use in the following way: > Would each CD contain all the available packages or do you have some idea to only distribute changed packages? > - Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages > (except maybe the linux binary compatibility) > - Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to: > - Install packages > - Configure X and DE / WM > - Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc) > - Configure sound card > (and more) > > All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would > be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD > itself. Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and > anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the > same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc). > This can actually be one of the menu options. > > Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute > the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use > default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile > more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync. This achieves pretty much exactly what I was hoping for! Fantastic. I had assumed default configs though because I imagine the ports people have reasons for choosing them. > > I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE, > firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more > packages. If it generates enough interest in the community, we will > then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases. Exactly. gnome and kde? Glen, I was replying to your post when Manolis's came but this has the answers. Chris > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 21:26:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1F1065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21818FC1A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1566501fxm.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:26:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=844iyv3YaJOOWwjPR6GI3rkDW2FFsykSBmE1kK+2zoY=; b=fDMO3NbJfcpJGeYc0t6NXuPYrRRes5yQJSiwFjuyu1tin2Z6rvu1KXXEWbpfg/S6Ft exQkav84ykwyrMjPMv2jW+Wgy3h9eUi1S0Ntug/zHk/u8mwnTApyb0gyJ0/1plYrS1kC JGRNMwFP3pOBNGydV6in+KuSErdBA9Ey0w1Bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hDCc8ra9XlyIHVJtLQrBFb1b4t2hBx4mm7N5rCUpiJmtgIsm3P40l4+6D8p+xljWbe NAPE+ipqfNtknQF1Ajpq3YXfkkALyf7215YiK+O06BTp+/JObcJl8JbUDSYZlLP1QcOy ySxoFpxMZ7wihr4eIlrKUcALbSnErhL9MdOZo= Received: by 10.204.117.65 with SMTP id p1mr4514460bkq.91.1239485185860; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472280.home.otenet.gr [94.71.125.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm3218391fkt.22.2009.04.11.14.26.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E10AFF.3040700@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:26:23 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> <49e10033.nranDPhLy+Bjn3ry%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <49e10033.nranDPhLy+Bjn3ry%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:26:28 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> I could also distribute the ports tree ... >> > > I wonder if it's necessary to distribute the entire ports tree. > Perhaps it would suffice to distribute a timestamp for csup/cvsup > to retrieve the appropriate version. > > Yes, this is probably correct :) However distributing a compressed ports tree in the CD (without the distfiles) won't be much of a problem space-wise. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 21:30:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946AB1065719 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278DA8FC20 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1508350ewy.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QgeQr00TE3QpaK7IMvwrvsI7QYoVIBA6ABj6w96TNQo=; b=IbNg/7zQN/aBFCHO2joosqHTkwX9gDlIoivaJh/7hGSDlmX4ZGeLqxykhX4vVgpP+Z TaGiKajicmOarY1qy/Yj+v2PpJjy3IUmf3jiEyG5LxU5npiQedMapMdilyfS1mR+xokc b44RuRgl2l2Tcq8n4P3Y83nbcUYLyYxif/CXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dcku561mkXUfQAokuDRDvhmnAYfEdIU/NPYkuVkLX4IAp9q6PqlNftKJs2gTgG1Nye 8ftPv5lyz4kEsqNLIl3TmKhq3QupTNEDiigpSm069ZKjEPjH4AeqTUX/m9tp9yDwCLma lBzeovtVav5/OvkWn9TpgKOeJeqREPbbV5RUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.128.5 with SMTP id a5mr2231584ebd.76.1239485430150; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904091002.01582.ray@stilltech.net> References: <200904031144.31198.ray@stilltech.net> <200904091002.01582.ray@stilltech.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:30:15 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions about Fatal Trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:30:32 -0000 2009/4/9 Ray : > On Friday 03 April 2009 11:44:31 Ray wrote: >> Hello, >> I have received a kernel Trap 12 error several times now and am trying to >> figure it out. >> the error occurred today, and the previous time was about two weeks ago. >> last time I had to run fsck manually if that proves anything. >> >> >> uname -a gives the following: >> >> FreeBSD wserver.********.com 7.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Wed >> Sep 17 13:30:46 MDT 2008 >> root@wserver.*********.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOD amd64 >> >> >> Google returns results mostly for versions 4.x and 5.x, but it suggest 2 >> main things: >> test ram, and kernel panic troubleshooting. >> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC- >> TROUBLESHOOTING) >> >> Is there a way to test the ram without removing it from the machine and >> leave the machine functioning. I've used memtest 86 before, but obviously >> the machine has to be offline for this test. >> >> However, I'm a little unsure of the instructions in the handbook on >> troubleshooting. namely, it talks about using the nm command, but I can't >> figure out the data file to give it as an argument, and second I'm unsure >> about using a debugging Kernel on a production server. I have heard that It >> will significantly slow down a machine. >> Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> Ray > > Can anybody make any suggestions, or is there a better list to take this > question to? > Ray > Sorry mate, I really don't think you're going to have any luck. Memory testing requires access to parts of memory that the kernel's currently munching on. Run memtest86, or yank a few sticks and run it in another computer. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 21:37:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A21065672 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0698FC13 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1568574fxm.43 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:37:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GHbVp3rZUf/dqgxic901nY7CWEfkXZz261dBkl5wYmA=; b=uKQITMH8kTbUR0Hw0/FWvvFtser9M5alaxPLVflCvx6H2mA6l3gL/IfJR7w6nv9ped bUtn7dzb5RG/WNooPlQVJnJSeSQ/SrUQigeqLC0l/gQdwJ9XwhEjSrSCfimgtLpBEc9C 3zCtY1KafCdAS/Pa3dk0hWrsz+CLMVP3K5EEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CkkMihYbvkrASKUj7yqQxi7ku7A7mZsN6RKwfLS8li9RJCsymF6TM0uysenxYxlMQo +TE1vQo+LFfRErCMP/C2mGRK3TetbxcFXFop40UtptBsLTQYywrJNcQfXvzv5xCYlmx3 xNAlXLui1h1/5L2v4rBYUXVZRqNoO76a1YLfQ= Received: by 10.204.100.201 with SMTP id z9mr4505577bkn.168.1239485850492; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472280.home.otenet.gr [94.71.125.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm3260298fkd.39.2009.04.11.14.37.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E10D98.9070503@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:37:28 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <49DBCB82.2090903@gmail.com> <4ad871310904071653hef9da1br6048618d4676d658@mail.gmail.com> <49DFE46A.2080600@onetel.com> <49E09FB5.6050803@gmail.com> <49E10600.2040405@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <49E10600.2040405@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:37:32 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> >> I am following this discussion too. >> I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD >> desktop easier to build and less time consuming. >> Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer >> reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and >> PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday). The problem >> is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between >> XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox. > > My motivation also, plus energy considerations. I was rolling my own > using icewm but have recently been using PCBSD. I like PCBSD very much > but I would go back to my previous setup with this project. > >> >> I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine > > Are you using the tinderbox port or do you build in the machines own > environment? I am using ports-mgmt/tinderbox In the past I was using a simple setup: I would install the ports, create the packages with pkg_create and then delete /usr/local and restart. > >> just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM) >> but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am >> close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can >> download and use in the following way: >> > Would each CD contain all the available packages or do you have some > idea to only distribute changed packages? The purpose is for every CD to be self contained so it can be used for clean installs. Creating incremental CDs would be fairly easy, but will increase the number of CDs to carry around. > >> - Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages >> (except maybe the linux binary compatibility) >> - Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to: >> - Install packages >> - Configure X and DE / WM >> - Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc) >> - Configure sound card >> (and more) >> >> All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would >> be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD >> itself. Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and >> anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the >> same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc). >> This can actually be one of the menu options. >> >> Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute >> the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use >> default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile >> more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync. > > This achieves pretty much exactly what I was hoping for! Fantastic. I > had assumed default > configs though because I imagine the ports people have reasons for > choosing them. Yes, default configs would probably be best when redistributing to lots of people. >> >> I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE, >> firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more >> packages. If it generates enough interest in the community, we will >> then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases. > > Exactly. gnome and kde? Sure. I'll do a test run with XFCE and we can discuss details afterwards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 23:10:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF2E106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7E8FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A3450AA2 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:10:04 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yfXYTGkiEcTJ for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:10:02 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 215C050A7D; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:10:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090411231002.215C050A7D@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:10:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-04-11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:10:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090411002800.32DA9BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:28:00 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:31:01 -0000 >> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:31:06 -0500, >> Adam Vandemore said: A> How do you handle major builds that use FBSD specific patches.... A> asterisk for example? Fortunately I haven't had to build asterisk or anything else that large. If I did, I'd probably try building under Solaris first, and when installing under FBSD, I'd examine any patches and put them in by hand. My only experience with a major ports build was attempting to upgrade Firefox; 20 minutes after starting, I was left with a literally unbootable system. I had to yank the drive, give it to a buddy to verify that my files were still present, do a complete installation with a more recent FBSD version on a clean drive, and restore my stuff from the original system. I'm perfectly willing to admit that I botched something in the Firefox upgrade, but I've also run into problems installing anything that remotely depends on perl. I use the same version on all my servers, and I got tired of seeing "unable to find perl-5.8.whatever"; configure scripts test for capability rather than version number to avoid this problem. Some of my servers are not allowed to have any network access, which means no chasing dependencies; I put in a CD with some source and run a build script. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Seen in an East African newspaper: A new swimming pool is rapidly taking shape since the contractors have thrown in the bulk of their workers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 23:31:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4CD106564A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36A98FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BNV0qq031234 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:31:00 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3BNV0bW031233; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:31:00 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id D80D0BE71; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:37:58 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090410214414.acc2dc6d.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:44:14 +0200) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090411003758.D80D0BE71@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:37:58 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: sorta newb help compiling samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:31:01 -0000 >> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:44:14 +0200, >> Polytropon said: P> Why don't you use echo -n which suppresses the newline instead of involving P> another program to do something that echo can do on its own? This is how P> FreeBSD does it in its system scripts. Some of my scripts date back to 1994, and they've been run under FreeBSD, Linux, and Solaris using /bin/sh, ATT Korn shell, Solaris's version of the Korn shell (which is sure as hell *NOT* the same thing), pdksh, and bash. Unfortunately, "echo -n" hasn't behaved consistently, so I used the (pretty gross) hack # echo without newline necho () { echo "$*" | tr -d '\012' } P> And according to P> test -d /usr/bin || exit 0 # /usr not mounted P> Woudln't it be more compliant to exit 1 to signal an error due to /usr not P> being mounted? Probably. The only times I've ever tried to do anything without /usr mounted is when running single-user, so a message saying /usr/bin is missing wouldn't be a bad idea. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company The danger is not that one class is unfit to govern. All classes are unfit to govern. --Lord Acton