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Am 2009-08-15 16:49:24, schrieb Gary Kline:
> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
date "+%d %B %Y"
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>> You really should post the full pciconf(8) and dmesg(8) for us, as well
>> as kldstat(8) -v.
I sent an email previously which may have been caught by some spam
filters as having too many links so I'm resending this.
The links include dmesg, kldstat -v, and pciconf -lv
https://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/msg/4cd06e29318614ce
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On my Lenovo G530 the mouse does not work in X or with moused.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146534 for
laptop specs.
My laptop's dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7500570e
AllowEmptyInput is on.
The keyboard is not frozen in X as I am able to get to the other VTYs.
(mouse+X+
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Eitan Adler <eitanadlerlist@gmail.com>wrote:
> On my Lenovo G530 the mouse does not work in X or with moused.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146534 for
> laptop specs.
> My laptop's dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7500570e
> AllowEmptyInput is on.
> The keyboard is not frozen in X as I am able to get to the other VTYs.
>
> (mouse+X+
>
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>
>
Do you have
moused_enable="YES"
in /etc/rc.conf?
Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse?
eg
xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2
xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i
> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful
> of companies that i hope to find online.
>
> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like
>
> Company Name
> Address
> Company Email
>
> Attn Mr. Smith:
>
> [my canned letter]
>
>
> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
>
> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html
> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability?
>
> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in!
>
> thanks much,
>
> gary
>
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> Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any
of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task.
Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it.
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On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 02:39 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2009-08-15 16:49:24, schrieb Gary Kline:
> > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
>
> date "+%d %B %Y"
Yup! super, dank,
gary
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> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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> Do you have
>
> moused_enable="YES"
>
> in /etc/rc.conf?
>
> Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse?
>
> eg
>
> xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2
> xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6
>
After some work on IRC I got to the following:
I have X compiled WITH hald.
dbus and hald are enabled and running
All relevant drivers are installed.
/dev/sysmouse exists.
The mouse works for a tiny bit and then fails.
Its a laptop mouse - but it might be connected to the USB bus; 8.0 has
better support for USB so I'm running freebsd-update currently to
determine if it fixes the problem.
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> > Do you have
> >
> > moused_enable="YES"
> >
> > in /etc/rc.conf?
> >
> > Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse?
> >
> > eg
> >
> > xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2
> > xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6
> >
>
> After some work on IRC I got to the following:
> I have X compiled WITH hald.
> dbus and hald are enabled and running
> All relevant drivers are installed.
> /dev/sysmouse exists.
>
> The mouse works for a tiny bit and then fails.
>
> Its a laptop mouse - but it might be connected to the USB bus; 8.0 has
> better support for USB so I'm running freebsd-update currently to
> determine if it fixes the problem.
>
> --
> Eitan Adler
>
>
/var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well.
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> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i
> > want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful
> > of companies that i hope to find online.
> >
> > I'm guessing the inside address would me something like
> >
> > Company Name
> > Address
> > Company Email
> >
> > Attn Mr. Smith:
> >
> > [my canned letter]
> >
> >
> > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
> >
> > I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html
> > mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability?
> >
> > if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in!
> >
> > thanks much,
> >
> > gary
> >
> > --
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> > Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any
> of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task.
> Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it.
>
i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line,
that would grab, say
123 Main Street
and $2@ would grab
York, PA 12345-6789
Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and
when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever....
tx,
gary
>
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> /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well.
http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb
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Gary Kline wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:15PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i
>>> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful
>>> of companies that i hope to find online.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like
>>>
>>> Company Name
>>> Address
>>> Company Email
>>>
>>> Attn Mr. Smith:
>>>
>>> [my canned letter]
>>>
>>>
>>> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
>>> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
>>> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
>>>
>>> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html
>>> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability?
>>>
>>> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in!
>>>
>>> thanks much,
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service
>>> Unix
>>> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org
>>>
>>> Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any
>>>
>> of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task.
>> Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it.
>>
>>
>
> i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line,
> that would grab, say
>
> 123 Main Street
>
> and $2@ would grab
>
> York, PA 12345-6789
>
>
>
> Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and
> when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever....
>
> tx,
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> Adam Vande More
>>
>
>
t may be a bit of overkill, but you might want to take a look at a
customer relationship manager (CRM). Both vtiger and sugarcrm are in
ports (the lastest version of vtiger 5.1 is not yet in the ports, but it
is a snap ti install, anyway). You have the ability to maintain
Contacts and Leads, create merged e-mail templates and other custom
templates in vtiger, and it is so flexible you can hack up the code to
make it do just about anything you can think of without going nuts
trying to figure out how the program does what it does. You need
Apache, php5 with some simple extensions, and MySQL (PostgresQL is
coming soon). vtiger 5.1 also has an html e-mal editor built in and
produces very servicable output.
Leads would be your job prospects, Contacts would be your Leads that
actually produced a dialogue. I've adapted it to handle Student
marketing enquiries and do customized bulk e-mailings where I work and
it is very easy to set-up and use.
Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 02:43:03AM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:15PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i
> >>> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful
> >>> of companies that i hope to find online.
> >>>
> >>> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like
> >>>
> >>> Company Name
> >>> Address
> >>> Company Email
> >>>
> >>> Attn Mr. Smith:
> >>>
> >>> [my canned letter]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> >>> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> >>> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
> >>>
> >>> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html
> >>> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability?
> >>>
> >>> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in!
> >>>
> >>> thanks much,
> >>>
> >>> gary
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service
> >>>Unix
> >>> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org
> >>>
> >>>Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing
> >>>any
> >>>
> >>of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task.
> >>Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line,
> > that would grab, say
> >
> > 123 Main Street
> >
> > and $2@ would grab
> >
> > York, PA 12345-6789
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and
> > when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever....
> >
> > tx,
> >
> > gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>--
> >>Adam Vande More
> >>
> >
> >
> t may be a bit of overkill, but you might want to take a look at a
> customer relationship manager (CRM). Both vtiger and sugarcrm are in
> ports (the lastest version of vtiger 5.1 is not yet in the ports, but it
> is a snap ti install, anyway). You have the ability to maintain
> Contacts and Leads, create merged e-mail templates and other custom
> templates in vtiger, and it is so flexible you can hack up the code to
> make it do just about anything you can think of without going nuts
> trying to figure out how the program does what it does. You need
> Apache, php5 with some simple extensions, and MySQL (PostgresQL is
> coming soon). vtiger 5.1 also has an html e-mal editor built in and
> produces very servicable output.
>
> Leads would be your job prospects, Contacts would be your Leads that
> actually produced a dialogue. I've adapted it to handle Student
> marketing enquiries and do customized bulk e-mailings where I work and
> it is very easy to set-up and use.
>
> Tim Kellers
> CPE/NJIT
This really looks interesting for when I've finished my book and have
customers and feedback; need to track my ideas to promote novel, deal with
returns and resales. And yes, then finding a job and my third career!
vtiger looks interesting and if the docs are readable, then all the more
so. i'm familiar with everything but mysql. I know it, but am far from
expert. ...Hm.
thanks much for the insight!
gary
--
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http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org
The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php
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> http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb
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>
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I'd try the fbsd xorg mailing list, btw does your console mouse work yet?
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>> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well.
>> http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb
>>
>>
>> --
>> Eitan Adler
>>
>
> I'd try the fbsd xorg mailing list, btw does your console mouse work yet?
>
> --
> Adam Vande More
>
Also you may want to update Xorg to current version. I think that may help
as my intel chipset just starting working w/ freebsd again relatively
recently.
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Hello Volodymyr
Am Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:42:22AM +0300 Volodymyr Kostyrko schrieb:
> Martin Schweizer wrote:
>
> >So I have now no more ideas where I can check. Any hints are welcome.
>
> I have done almost the same thing, only with pam:
>
> > grep sasl /etc/rc.conf
> saslauthd_enable='yes'
> saslauthd_flags='-apam -n1'
>
> > cat /etc/pam.d/imap
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>
Sorry for the delay but I was out of town. I did same as you suggested and now
it works. Thank you.
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From: "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!
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> The average "Windows" user does not read what's on the screen anyway, so
> he will always "next". :-)
I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding
Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or
otherwise.
It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and
implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such.
> > Since Windows 2000, the
> > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more
> > new partitions, formatting them, etc.
>
> Even DOS could do that.
That is correct. However, in an earlier message you wrote:
>"Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the
disk it wants to install on,"
That might give the impression that the Setup procedure was inflexible.
I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but
this is 2009 - not 1995 - and for the "average Windows user" it's
meaningless and confusing. For those who do understand it, they know having
8dot3 filenames was a FEATURE, a benefit of the platform to allow
applications that weren't aware of long file names to continue working.
Just my thoughts,
-Chuck
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:54:41 -0400, "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop@gmail.com> wrote:
> I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding
> Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or
> otherwise.
I may apologize for that not being the case, sadly, at least
according to the last point, but it's very selective to
Germany. I can't tell if "Windows" users in other countries
behave in other ways. In my family and for friends, I'm often
the "computer guy" and have to deal with their problems, which
are usually related to "Windows" in many different ways. But
still, my observations are quite individual, so I don't talk
for "everybody".
> It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and
> implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such.
This may be, I agree, but hey, at least I didn't start! :-)
> > > Since Windows 2000, the
> > > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more
> > > new partitions, formatting them, etc.
> >
> > Even DOS could do that.
>
> That is correct. However, in an earlier message you wrote:
>
> >"Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the
> disk it wants to install on,"
>
> That might give the impression that the Setup procedure was inflexible.
In DOS, deleting partitions involves reading the screen (in textmode)
and pressing keys (on the keyboard); in "Windows" setups, those
tasks can usually be achieved by repeatedly pressing the Enter
key. There is a default action that usually leads to destruction
of any other OS, or at least of the start sectors of the disk so
other operating systems can't be booted anymore because the boot
manager is gone. This is quite different to installer of other
operating systems that require some knowledge about what to do,
and the person who does the install is responsible for taking
decisions. The "Windows" installer, however, replaces them by
(for "Windows") reasonable defaults, and that is to free the
way for "Windows" by all neccessary means.
> I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but
> this is 2009 - not 1995 - and for the "average Windows user" it's
> meaningless and confusing.
Meaningless? Sure. Confusing? Surely not more than "Windows" itself.
And finally, "MICROS~1" is an invention by Microsoft. So simply
take it as a very individual nuance of expression by the means
of the language. I know it's a VERY special kind of humour, and
of course not everyone's case. :-)
> For those who do understand it, they know having
> 8dot3 filenames was a FEATURE, a benefit of the platform to allow
> applications that weren't aware of long file names to continue working.
GeoWorks Ensemble had >8.3 filenames even in DOS.
> Just my thoughts,
> -Chuck
Confirmed.
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> Also you may want to update Xorg to current version. I think that
may help
> as my intel chipset just starting working w/ freebsd again relatively
> recently.
I was running 7.2-STABLE.
I used freebsd-update to 8.0-BETA2 and mouse finally works.
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:54:41AM -0400, Charles Oppermann wrote:
>
> I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at
> Microsoft, but this is 2009 - not 1995
Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile
and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the
past is incorrect. If browsing an installation CD or the contents of
your local drive isn't enough to raise a few questions ...
[george@XP] # regtool list '/HKLM/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/FileSystem'
NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation
Win31FileSystem
Win95TruncatedExtensions
The default value for NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation is 0.
Obviously, there's reasons for that, but this is one of those situations
where an admonition of "Go ahead and laugh -- it's funny!" might be
appropriate.
--
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> High Point Rocket Raid 1740...
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> Is this a fakeraid card?
>
> A good raid card?
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> What are your experiences with this card...
>
Anyone had any experiences? Looks like from high point's website, the last
supported version is 6.x any ideas if this will work?
I don't really want to just "try" only to have to redo the configuration of
the machine again.
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> It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and
> implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such.
I agree only insofar as nobody is ever benefited by
insulting/denigrating other users. But that's not what Polytropon was
doing, I don't think. Seems to me he was denigrating the Windows
system itself. And this leads to where I disagree.
I think denigrating other systems is a fine thing if and when the
denigration is based on true differences and not unrealistic
exaggeration. For example, "FreeBSD is more stable than
Windows--Windows sucks, it's unstable!" OK, this is me denigrating
Windows. Am I hurting Windows's feelings? Am I preventing a small
market player from competing with the establish oligarchy? No. I'm
parading the greatness of FreeBSD. Sure, I sound more like a human
being having a little fun than a technical booklet, but so what--who
says FreeBSD users can't be people too :)
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Hello,
I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD
8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw).
I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is
quite important to me.
I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and,
apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far.
So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow
well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still,
better than nothing.
After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on
FreeBSD amd64...
Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not
having any 32-bit libraries installed.
My questions are two fold:
1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8
amd64?
2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64?
Thanks,
Mark
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich <freebsd@optimis.net> wrote:
> Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile
> and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the
> past is incorrect.
Furthermore, I think it wasn't a "gain of comfort" MICROS~1 (sorry,
can't resist) inventet. As far as I remember, CP/M had 8.3 filenames
too, and that was prior to DOS. (It only hadn't directories).
> Obviously, there's reasons for that, but this is one of those situations
> where an admonition of "Go ahead and laugh -- it's funny!" might be
> appropriate.
Finally.
By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
--
Polytropon
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Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Hi,
On 17 August 2009 pm 16:25:29 Polytropon wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich
<freebsd@optimis.net> wrote:
> > Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit
> > juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames
> > are a thing of the past is incorrect.
>
> Furthermore, I think it wasn't a "gain of comfort" MICROS~1
> (sorry, can't resist) inventet. As far as I remember, CP/M had
> 8.3 filenames too, and that was prior to DOS. (It only hadn't
> directories).
>
wasn't it DEC with their RT-11 and RSX-11 operating systems
introducing this concept which was then copied by Intel for the
8080 development systems?
> By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
> be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
Hey, memory was real rare those days.
Erich
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Mark Stapper <stark@mapper.nl> wrote:
> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD
> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw).
> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is
> quite important to me.
> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and,
> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far.
> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow
> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still,
> better than nothing.
> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on
> FreeBSD amd64...
> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not
> having any 32-bit libraries installed.
>
So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image?
You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contain
it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by
"make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is not,
by default).
Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld",
assuming you have the src tree installed.
> My questions are two fold:
> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8
> amd64?
>
qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been using
it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu
performance-wise.
> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64?
>
See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite.
---
Gary Jennejohn
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Mark Stapper wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD
> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw).
> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is
> quite important to me.
> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and,
> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far.
> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow
> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still,
> better than nothing.
> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on
> FreeBSD amd64...
> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not
> having any 32-bit libraries installed.
> My questions are two fold:
> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8
> amd64?
> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
I don't have a suitable amd64 system to test, but apparently virtualbox
on amd64 requires this option to be built into the kernel:
COMPAT_IA32
for latest info check the wiki page, as virtualbox is under heavy
development:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
> be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier linkers and
it affected all identifiers of linkable objects like variables,
functions etc... Everybody familiar with FORTRAN libraries like BLAS [1]
will remember that cramped namespace. ;-)
[1]: http://www.netlib.org/lapack/lug/node145.html
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Hi,
On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
> > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
>
> The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier
> linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects
I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days.
Interesting.
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> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 17:36, Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>> High Point Rocket Raid 1740...
>>
>> Is this a fakeraid card?
>>
>> A good raid card?
>>
>> What are your experiences with this card...
>>
>>
>
> Anyone had any experiences? Looks like from high point's website, the last
> supported version is 6.x any ideas if this will work?
>
> I don't really want to just "try" only to have to redo the configuration of
> the machine again.
>
I have a rr 1740 card in a 7.2 amd64 machine. The experience has generally
been good. Support for these cards exist in the kernel - 3rd party
driver not required.
As with anything, you get what you pay for.
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> On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
> > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
> >
> > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier
> > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects
>
> I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days.
Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the
identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors
to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler
and linker.
Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic
restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited
it.
> Interesting.
>
> Erich
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Manish Jain wrote:
> You are right. Syntax highlighting only works well with X. On the
> console, to the best of knowledge, there is no way to change the colours
> through vim's rc files.
Syntax colour changing does work via .vimrc on the console. The
constructs are named differently: ctermfg, cterm etc.
The default however uses bright yellow and very light blue for many
things, which doesn't appear well on my white console.
Also, there is only a limited number of colours for the console. Your
scheme provided me with what I needed in order to play around for myself.
>>> With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better
>>> than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can
>>> come up with.
>
> I am really glad you like my colour set. Please pass it on to anyone who
> might be interested.
>
> I do not know what your level of expertise with Vim is. Provided you are
> or intend to be serious user and that your knowledge is somewhere in the
> range of beginner to intermediate, I might be able to help a little
> further.
Well, I just started with it about a week or two ago, but I plan on
using this as my editor from now on.
> Attached is vimref.txt (in a zip), which I created as a
> mini-reference for everything I found useful for daily work. Please go
> through this file AFTER running vim's own tutor.
>
> Some lines from my .vimrc which you may find useful :
>
> set backspace=2 whichwrap+=<,>,[,]
> vnoremap <BS> d
>
> set autoindent
> set nobackup
> set nohlsearch
> set nonumber
> set ruler
> set linebreak
> set wrap
> set laststatus=2
> set tabstop=4
> set shiftwidth=4
> set noexpandtab
> set showmode
> set nocompatible
> set vb t_vb=
> set display=lastline
> set ignorecase
> set nomodeline
Many of these were documented in the tutor, and others I have found
while reading other docs.
Thanks!
Steve
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> am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this
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> 1. features, benefits and setbacks
> 2. Functionality and features
> 3. versions, strong and weak points
> 4. Unique features
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Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959
I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but
what about sparc64? amd64? mips?
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> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
> > > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
> > >
> > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier
> > > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects
> >
> > I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days.
>
> Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the
> identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors
> to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler
> and linker.
>
> Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic
> restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited
> it.
>
> > Interesting.
> >
> > Erich
>
> Regards,
> -cpghost.
Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot.
Live was so easy.
Heiner
C (one word = 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software)
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Subject: bwi driver (broadcom) on 8.0
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I can't seem to find any reference to a broadcom wireless driver for 8.0.
I did find one forum reference
(http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-170.html) for a 7.x
driver but it according to the thread does not work with 8.x.
Can anyone point me to some instructions on getting my wireless working?
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Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:57:52PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959
>
> I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but what about sparc64?
> amd64? mips?
You can check things like this using the Ports Monitoring tool:
http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=gcc4&wildcard=yes
According to that, for 8.0:
- gcc4* are set to "not for ia64". From a commit log for gcc43/Makefile:
Add ia64 to NOT_FOR_ARCHS. This has been broken for ages, it is not clear
whether it is our kernel/userland, the hardware, or something else at fault
and nobody on our side nor upstream seems to have any interest.
- previous versions of gcc43 built everywhere; the latest version has
not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386.
- previous versions of gcc44 built everywhere; the latest version has
not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386.
- previous versions of gcc45 built everywhere; the latest version has
not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386.
The package building cluster is currently only set up to try builds on
amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the last
time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble. We do not yet have any arm,
mips, or powerpc machines. Our alphas have been deinstalled (sorry),
after the alpha src code had fallen too far behind the main 3 archs, and
no one was keeping it up.
Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help,
you may be out of luck. Sorry.
mcl
* yes, I know that portsmon is throwing 'database not connected' errors,
but don't have a fix for it yet. It only seems to affect the query for
'show me uploaded packages', and even then not all the time.
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Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:36:02AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:57:52PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64:
> > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959
> >
> > I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but what about sparc64?
> > amd64? mips?
>
> You can check things like this using the Ports Monitoring tool:
> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=gcc4&wildcard=yes
>
> According to that, for 8.0:
>
> - gcc4* are set to "not for ia64". From a commit log for gcc43/Makefile:
>
> Add ia64 to NOT_FOR_ARCHS. This has been broken for ages, it is not clear
> whether it is our kernel/userland, the hardware, or something else at fault
> and nobody on our side nor upstream seems to have any interest.
yes, I understand.. Unfortunately a FBSD system without gcc4x is of little
use to me, because I need fortran OMP compiler, and many other ports
which depend on gcc4x.
I wonder if they work under ia64 linux?
> amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the last
> time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble. We do not yet have any arm,
I volunteer to build gcc4x ports on my rx2600 SMP ia64 current.
> mips, or powerpc machines. Our alphas have been deinstalled (sorry),
> after the alpha src code had fallen too far behind the main 3 archs, and
> no one was keeping it up.
yes, I gave up on alpha because of this.
> Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help,
> you may be out of luck. Sorry.
well.. unfortunately I've no relevant skills to offer, only testing.
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BONGANI MANGANYE wrote:
> i dont know if is me or what but you havent answerwd my question,please
> take ur time ad give me reply
>
>>>> Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> 08/17/09 2:18 PM >>>
> BONGANI MANGANYE wrote:
>> am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this
>> information
>> 1. features, benefits and setbacks
>> 2. Functionality and features
>> 3. versions, strong and weak points
>> 4. Unique features
>
> www.freebsd.org
>
> :-)
>
> Kevin Kinsey
My reply is, *read the website*. www.freebsd.org is
the FreeBSD Project's site and gives details such as
those you are asking for with great attention to
accuracy in language and with great character.
If your native/primary language is not English,
the site should still be available in several other
languages, but I've never read those, and can't
*positively* say that they will help you as much.
I have, however, read posts by persons on the translation
teams, and they seem top-caliber as well as the
programmers and English documentation team, so you
should still be able to glean most of what you need
from the site.
If you are looking for opinions rather than facts,
please accept my apology for not giving you mine,
but I read the original post as asking for facts,
and these can best be found from the Project's website.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:30:47PM +0200, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote:
> am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this
> information
> 1. features, benefits and setbacks
> 2. Functionality and features
> 3. versions, strong and weak points
> 4. Unique features
Your best bet is to get on the web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ and
start reading and following links. Everything that would be said in
this questions list is in there and a lot more.
There are a lot of additional web sites you can look at as well.
To mention just a few:
http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/11/11/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/15
http://forums.freebsd.org/
http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/freebsd.html
But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker
around with it until you get a good feel for it.
////jerry
>
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> Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959
>
> I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but
> what about sparc64? amd64? mips?
>
> many thanks
>
> --
> Anton Shterenlikht
FYI:
I mostly ported GCC 4.5 to the BSD Makefiles (svn head sys/gnu/usr.bin/cc) for
ARM. Basically, I added the FreeBSD format extension, the __FreeBSD_cc_version
built-in define and the PATH changes. I did not make BSD Makefile for the
GMP and MPFR libraries. I don't have the FreeBSD-8.0 revision 195697 that
eliminates ".text relocations in shared libraries compiled with stack
protector".
Vassilis Laganakos has been working with GCC 4.4 on the ARM.
I haven't push the compiler (and newer binutils 2.19) much beyond building
the kernel. GCC 4.5 "-O" option creates new kernel warnings with the
conditional locks. Below is a typical error:
/mnt/arm64/usr/bin/gcc -mlittle-endian -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcpu=xscale -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c: In function 'devfs_lookup':
../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow
../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:809:3: error: called from here
../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow
../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:817:4: error: called from here
../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow
../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:828:4: error: called from here
*** Error code 1
--Mark Tinguely.
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>
> But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker
> around with it until you get a good feel for it.
>
> ////jerry
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>
>
7 years later...
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> The package building cluster is currently only set up to try builds on
> amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the
> last
> time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble.
Really, you have ia64 machines for ports building?
Are you referring to pluto1 and pluto2 or are these
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> Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help,
> you may be out of luck. Sorry.
I'll see about fixing it...
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> >
> >
> > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker
> > around with it until you get a good feel for it.
> >
> > ////jerry
> >
> >
> >
> 7 years later...
It doesn't take that long.
Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity.
Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you
need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and
submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer.
But, to become an effective user does not require that much.
It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using
it in addition to just reading about it.
////jerry
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> Hi, does anyone knows if the driver for the Intel 5100 agn included in ma=
ny new notebooks is ready to use in 7.2-STABLE for amd64?, if not, at least=
i'm looking for some pointers to creating a ndis wrapper for its WinXP dri=
ver.
>
Hi, Leonardo
I'm in the same situation you are in. Regarding an official driver,
there is not anything available (yet). The last post I saw in the
-net archives mentions the driver was not currently being worked on (I
do not know how much truth this holds now).
Regarding ndis/ndisgen, I was able to create a module in 7.2-RELEASE
and 8.0-BETA2, however both caused panics (which I was unable to get
cores on - mostly because of time constraints). As expected, your
results may vary.
--=20
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:25PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker
> > > around with it until you get a good feel for it.
> > >
> > > ////jerry
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > 7 years later...
>
> It doesn't take that long.
> Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity.
>
> Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you
> need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and
> submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer.
>
> But, to become an effective user does not require that much.
> It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using
> it in addition to just reading about it.
>
> ////jerry
>
> Sorry, my sense of humor is often said to be too dry. Point was it's
awfully addicting if you go that route. Much like Alice in Wonderland if
you follow the rabbit down the hole.
--
Adam Vande More
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version 7.2 GENERIC kernel
on bootup,
dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
Is this significant? Of what?
Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed....
Same question?
I find nothing directly related to the plip0 warning on the Net - what
is it and why is it?
And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary...
TIA
PJ
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote:
> version 7.2 GENERIC kernel
> on bootup,
> dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
> Is this significant? Of what?
It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using y=
our
parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you.
=20
> Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed....
> Same question?
The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS
filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the
harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become
/dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not
change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning
mentions. It is harmless.
> And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary...
You might have to dig into the geom code... :-)
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:51:37PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:25PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker
> > > > around with it until you get a good feel for it.
> > > >
> > > > ////jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > 7 years later...
> >
> > It doesn't take that long.
> > Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity.
> >
> > Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you
> > need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and
> > submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer.
> >
> > But, to become an effective user does not require that much.
> > It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using
> > it in addition to just reading about it.
> >
> > ////jerry
> >
>
> Sorry, my sense of humor is often said to be too dry. Point was it's
> awfully addicting if you go that route. Much like Alice in Wonderland if
> you follow the rabbit down the hole.
Well, that it can be. There is a lot that can be learned and a
lot that can be created.
-- and it works!
////jerry
>
>
> --
> Adam Vande More
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Roland Smith wrote:
>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote:
>> version 7.2 GENERIC kernel
>> on bootup,
>> dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
>>Is this significant? Of what?
>It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using your
>parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you.
I do, occasionally. It comes in handy with some older hardware, and
in an emergency.
As computers with multiple processors became more common, large parts
of the operating system were rewritten to work both safely and
efficiently with multiple processors; however, there remain some areas
where more work needs to be done, and developers added such messages
as a reminder and a warning. Up until recently, plip(4) was one of
those places, but John Baldwin fixed this for FreeBSD 8.
>> Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed....
>> Same question?
>The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS
>filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the
>harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become
>/dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not
>change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning
>mentions. It is harmless.
>
>> And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary...
>You might have to dig into the geom code... :-)
If you really don't want it, remove:
options GEOM_LABEL
from your kernel and rebuild. You can always load it as a kernel
module if you later find that you need it.
b.
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Hello,
Hello, I have two questions:
1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD:
8.0 CURRENT
7.2 RELEASE
7.2 STABLE
7.2 CURRENT
7.1 RELEASE
7.1 STABLE
7.1 CURRENT
7.0 RELEASE
7.0 STABLE
7.0 CURRENT
6.4 RELEASE
6.4 STABLE
6.4 CURRENT
2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is
available? I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered --
I'm hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available
for a particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox
Thank you,
Chris
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Chris Stankevitz<cstankevitz@toyon.com> wr=
ote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Hello, I have two questions:
>
> 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD:
>
> 8.0 CURRENT
> 7.2 RELEASE
> 7.2 STABLE
> 7.2 CURRENT
> 7.1 RELEASE
> 7.1 STABLE
> 7.1 CURRENT
> 7.0 RELEASE
> 7.0 STABLE
> 7.0 CURRENT
> 6.4 RELEASE
> 6.4 STABLE
> 6.4 CURRENT
You can find links to directories with ISO images of various RELEASES here:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
Some older releases have been moved to archives.
Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by
updating the operating system. More information about updating can be
found in the online handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
more specifically here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgradin=
g.html
>
> 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is
> available? =A0I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered -=
- I'm
> hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available for a
> particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo:
> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox
The ports system, and the versions of applications available, changes
with time and is not directly associated with the core operating
system version number. Once you've installed the operating system,
you could choose to keep the operating system the same, but continue
to update the ports system.
You can find application binaries that were built at the time the OS
version was released here:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/
They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There
are also stable directories for certain releases.
More information about various RELEASES and their features can be found her=
e:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chris
Best of luck,
Andrew
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I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it.
When I try
ifconfig ndis0 up scan
my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100
(exaggeration) APs around.
This is a broadcom wireless card.
--
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Chris Stankevitz <cstankevitz@toyon.com>wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Hello, I have two questions:
>
> 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD:
>
> 8.0 CURRENT
> 7.2 RELEASE
> 7.2 STABLE
> 7.2 CURRENT
> 7.1 RELEASE
> 7.1 STABLE
> 7.1 CURRENT
> 7.0 RELEASE
> 7.0 STABLE
> 7.0 CURRENT
> 6.4 RELEASE
> 6.4 STABLE
> 6.4 CURRENT
That is an abbreviated list.
>
> 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is
> available? I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered -- I'm
> hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available for a
> particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo:
> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chris
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You question reflects a linux background which probably explains the
awkwardness of it. Try to learn the FreeBSD native ports method which gives
much more flexibility at the expense of compile time, but I've heard gentoo
does something similar so perhaps the pain of waiting is not too great.
Packages are compiled for commonly used ports at release time. These
packages are versioned at what is in the ports tree at release time. There
may be other sources but that not something to be counted on. Ports tree
makes rolling your own packages easy so running various verisons of
gcc/virtualbox is not a problem usually not issue depending on what's
already installed on the system.
--
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Eitan Adler wrote:
> I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it.
> When I try
> ifconfig ndis0 up scan
> my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100
> (exaggeration) APs around.
>
> This is a broadcom wireless card.
>
I just tried
ifconfig ndis0 up
and it also freezes.
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Eitan Adler<eitanadlerlist@gmail.com> wrote:
> I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it.
> When I try
> ifconfig ndis0 up scan
> my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100
> (exaggeration) APs around.
>
If you break out of the scan (^C), is the machine responsive? I've
noticed a hang when scanning with my ndis'd 4318, but no problems
otherwise.
> This is a broadcom wireless card.
>
Well.. No problems other than the above...
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> If you break out of the scan (^C), is the machine responsive? I've
> noticed a hang when scanning with my ndis'd 4318, but no problems
> otherwise.
I can't break out of the scan with ^C. It just hangs.
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Andrew Gould wrote:
> Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by
Andrew,
Thank you for your helpful reply. Please tell me if you think I have
the correct understanding:
When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version
number" (your term). Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either
"STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core
operating system version number". From this point on, all application
updates will arrive via "ports" .
A question:
Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE
ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE
ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot
install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? If so, by what
mechanism is he prevented? What are the repercussions of never updating
the "core operating system version number"?
FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system
version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your ports).
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/
>
> They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There
> are also stable directories for certain releases.
Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions:
1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating
system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
2. What is the difference between these two?
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
My guess:
The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs.
The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating
the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it.
Thank you for your help!
Chris
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Dear all,
I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf.
During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs
remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No
such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Roald
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b. f. wrote:
> Roland Smith wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote:
>>
>>> version 7.2 GENERIC kernel
>>> on bootup,
>>> dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
>>>
>
>
> >>Is this significant? Of what?
>
>
>> It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using your
>> parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you.
>>
>
> I do, occasionally. It comes in handy with some older hardware, and
> in an emergency.
>
> As computers with multiple processors became more common, large parts
> of the operating system were rewritten to work both safely and
> efficiently with multiple processors; however, there remain some areas
> where more work needs to be done, and developers added such messages
> as a reminder and a warning. Up until recently, plip(4) was one of
> those places, but John Baldwin fixed this for FreeBSD 8.
>
>
>
>>> Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed....
>>> Same question?
>>>
>
>
>> The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS
>> filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the
>> harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become
>> /dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not
>> change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning
>> mentions. It is harmless.
>>
>>
>>> And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary...
>>>
>
>
>> You might have to dig into the geom code... :-)
>>
>
> If you really don't want it, remove:
>
> options GEOM_LABEL
>
> from your kernel and rebuild. You can always load it as a kernel
> module if you later find that you need it.
>
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Thank you gentlemen, I see it is all harmless. Thanks again.
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:27:42PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> Hello, I have two questions:
>=20
> 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD:
>=20
> 8.0 CURRENT
> 7.2 RELEASE
> 7.2 STABLE
> 7.2 CURRENT
> 7.1 RELEASE
> 7.1 STABLE
> 7.1 CURRENT
> 7.0 RELEASE
> 7.0 STABLE
> 7.0 CURRENT
> 6.4 RELEASE
> 6.4 STABLE
> 6.4 CURRENT
More or less. You can run any version you can get a CD of or that you can
check out of the source repository. But not all of them are
supported. Currently 6.4 and 7.2 are supported, and 8.0 is in beta.=20
=20
> 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is=
=20
> available?=20
The ports tree in general is not tied to a particular version of FreeBSD. B=
ut
some ports might be. Particularly, virtualbox requires 7.x. From
/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/Makefile:
=2Eif ${OSVERSION} < 700000
BROKEN=3D Does not compile on FreeBSD 6.X
=2Eendif
> I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered --=20
> I'm hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available=
=20
> for a particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo:=20
AFAIK, packages for a release are built from a snapshot of the ports system
taken at the moment that a release is made. You can find these on FTP serve=
rs,
e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/
for 7.2 release on the i386 platform. You should of course use a mirror that
is close to you. Not all ports are available as packages, for several possi=
ble
reasons. Virtualbox is only available in the packages for 7-stable.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, you'll probably want to compile por=
ts
=66rom source.
Roland
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system
> version number" (your term).
Most people install FreeBSD from a release CD; ie, they install 6.4-
RELEASE, or 7.2-RELEASE, or similar.
> Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either "STABLE" or
> "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core operating
> system version number". From this point on, all application updates
> will arrive via "ports" .
Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The
same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT.
> A question:
>
> Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to
> STABLE ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates
> to STABLE ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4
> person cannot install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)?
If a port does not compile on a given OS version, something like the
following is used in the port Makefile:
./audio/mumble/Makefile-.if ${OSVERSION} < 700000
./audio/mumble/Makefile:BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD < 7.0
./audio/mumble/Makefile-.endif
The same mechanism can be used for ports that do not compile on a
particular architecture, such as amd64 or sparc. See: http://www.freshports.org/ports-broken.php
> If so, by what mechanism is he prevented?
The port Makefiles will return an error if/when the port is known to
be broken under a certain circumstance.
> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating
> system version number"?
Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the
system. Eventually, if you refuse to update the base OS for a very
long period of time (years), you'll end up running an unsupported
version of the OS and some of the ongoing updates to the ports tree
may not work properly.
> FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system
> version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your
> ports).
>
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/
> >
> > They are arranged by computer architecture and release number.
> There
> > are also stable directories for certain releases.
>
> Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions:
>
> 1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating
> system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE
> packages:
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
When you compile something, you normally end up with runtime
dependencies upon a particular version of the C libraries, so the
packages for 6-STABLE and 7-STABLE are not the same. However, 6-
STABLE packages should run on a 7.x OS if you've got the misc/compat6x
port installed, which makes the 6.x shared libraries available on a
7.x or 8.x version FreeBSD.
> 2. What is the difference between these two?
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
>
> My guess:
> The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2
> RELEASE CDs.
You're right, here.
> The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by
> updating the ports collection and compiling all the applications in
> it.
Sort of. It takes longer than 5 minutes to rebuild all ~20K ports,
but yes, the 7-stable packages are updated continuously over time....
Regards,
--
-Chuck
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Chuck,
Thank you for your help. I have two questions:
Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The
> same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT.
1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated?
a) "core operating system version number"
b) the ports collection
c) something else
>> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating
>> system version number"?
>
> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the
> system.
2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would
arrive via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated
via ports? (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated
via portage and there is no "core operating system version number").
Thanks again,
Chris
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> am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this
> information
> 1. features, benefits and setbacks
> 2. Functionality and features
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I am delighted that university courses are assigning research projects
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Chris Stankevitz <cstankevitz@toyon.com>wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> Thank you for your help. I have two questions:
>
> Chuck Swiger wrote:
>
>> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The
>> same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT.
>>
>
> 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated?
Release/Stable/Current are related to the FreeBSD branch eg 6, 7, 8
>
> a) "core operating system version number"
> b) the ports collection
> c) something else
>
> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating system
>>> version number"?
>>>
>>
>> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the system.
>>
>
> 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would arrive
> via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated via ports?
> (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated via portage and
> there is no "core operating system version number").
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Chris
>
> Ports are 3rd party apps not in the base system, things like apache and
postgresql are part of ports not base system. Things like cp and tar are
part of base system and not ports. FreeBSD userland and kernel is not part
of ports system these are updated seperately using things like
freebsd-update.
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Chuck Swiger wrote:
> If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd update
> against RELENG_7_2 instead.
Here are you referring only to security updates to the "core OS" and not
applications in "ports" such as Firefox?
> In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate
> from installed ports or packages, and is updated separately from them.
What's an example of something that is in "the core OS" and not in the
"ports"? GCC? the shells? the kernel?
Thank you,
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>
> Chuck Swiger wrote:
>>
>> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. =A0The
>> same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT.
>
> 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated?
> a) "core operating system version number"
> b) the ports collection
> c) something else
Ports is a system created to install and manage third party
applications that are separate from the core operating system.
Although they are separate, it is good to have them in sync so that
they are compiled using the same libraries, etc. Therefore, there is
an attempt to associate packages (compiled versions of ports) with the
version of the operating system upon which they were compiled.
RELEASE, STABLE and CURRENT, refer to the core system. RELEASE refers
to the version of the operating system that was released with release
notes, etc. When you update the core operating system, you can use
cvsup to download changes to the source code. STABLE and CURRENT tell
cvsup what set of changes you want to download. STABLE is what it
sounds like. The changes include patches related to security issues
and bugs. New features may be included, but are considered too risky
or experimental. CURRENT will put you on the bleeding edge.
>
>>> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating system
>>> version number"?
>>
>> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the syste=
m.
>
> 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would arrive
> via the ports mechanism. =A0What kinds of things are not updated via port=
s?
> =A0(My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated via portage =
and
> there is no "core operating system version number").
This is addressed above. I would add, though, that the cvsup
mechanism can be used to download updates to the ports system and
documentation, in addition to changes to the core system.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Chris
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd
>> update against RELENG_7_2 instead.
>
> Here are you referring only to security updates to the "core OS" and
> not applications in "ports" such as Firefox?
That's right, yes.
>> In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate from installed
>> ports or packages, and is updated separately from them.
>
> What's an example of something that is in "the core OS" and not in
> the "ports"? GCC? the shells? the kernel?
Yes, all of the above. Basically, ports (or packages) install under /
usr/local; everything else under /bin, /usr/bin, etc is part of the
core OS.
However, if you wanted to install another version of GCC, you could
have both the one which comes with the system and a port version
present. Likewise for things like sendmail, BIND, openssl, and so
forth which normally come with the core OS, but may not be updated as
rapidly as the version in ports is.
--
-Chuck
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Gary Kline wrote:
> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i
> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful
> of companies that i hope to find online.
>=20
> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like
>=20
> Company Name
> Address
> Company Email
>=20
> Attn Mr. Smith:
>=20
> [my canned letter]
>=20
>=20
> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient
> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output
> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09?
>=20
> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html=20
> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability?
>=20
> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in!
Here's a script I whipped up a year or two ago that sends out e-mails.
You could definitely tweak it to find/replace a LaTeX template and send
it directly to the printer (circa the `| sendmail` line). See the
included readme (excuse the twiki formatting). While it was written for
bash, it may run under /bin/sh (but I make no claims).
It's really straightforward. I would die a little inside if it were used
to send HTML e-mail, but there's nothing to stop you from writing HTML
(by hand) into the template (or saving a message out of your GUI MUA of
choice into a flat file and using that as your template).
--=20
Chris Cowart
Network Technical Lead
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if [ -z "$1" ] || [ -z "$2" ] || [ "x$1" =3D=3D "x--help" ]; then
printf "Usage:\n\t${0} data_file template_file [cc1 [cc2 ... ]]\n"
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fi
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shift
template=3D"$1"
shift
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read line
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while read line ; do
column=3D1
SCRIPT=3D""
email=3D""
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SCRIPT=3D"${SCRIPT:+${SCRIPT};}s:$field_title:$datum:"
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---+ Overview
The =3Dautomail=3D script allows you to send templated e-mails to a list of
recipients. This is particularly useful during hiring.
---+ Usage
The =3Dautomail=3D script is installed on hal.=20
---++ The Data File
You must prepare a file with the data that will be used to fill in the
templates.
The first line of this file includes the case-sensitive field names,=20
separated by semi-colons. Each subsequent line is a data record. One e-mail
will be sent for each data record in the file.
*Example:*
<verbatim>
EMAIL;LNAME;FNAME;FOOD
ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Cowart;Chris;Bananas
keenanp@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Keenan;Parms;Ice Cream
jeremydw@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Jeremy;Weinstein;Rabbit Food
</verbatim>
Call this file ~/email_data.
*Note:* The only column title with special meaning is "EMAIL" and it *must*
appear in the data file. All other columns follow brain-dead substitutions
and do not affect the behavior of the automailer.
---++ The Template File
Here, you compose your e-mail. Note you must conform to RFC822 (Here's a
summary of the relevant points):
* You must include the To, From, Cc, and Subject headers.
* Headers must be properly formatted (=3DName: Contents Can Have Spaces=
=3D)
* The headers end with a blank line. There must be a blank line before
you begin your message.
*Example:*
<verbatim>
=46rom: The Party Planning Committee <ppc@rescomp.berkeley.edu>
To: FNAME LNAME <EMAIL>
Subject: The Potluck
Hello FNAME,
Please remember to bring FOOD to the potluck.
Thanks,
The Party Planning Committee
</verbatim>
Call this file ~/email_template.
*Note:*=20
* Column titles (see The Data File section) will be substituted with the
current record's column contents. The address in the EMAIL column will
receive a copy of the message.=20
* Including a Cc or Bcc header in the template will *NOT* affect who
receives a copy of the message.
*Warning:* The recipient will receive the message AS-IS.=20
__Bcc Headers will not be filtered__.
---++ Sending the Message
After you declare the data file and template file (in that order), you may
add e-mail addresses to the command line (e.g., hiring@rescomp.berkeley.edu=
).
Note that other than the recipient address, no addresses (Bcc or Cc) are
parsed from your message's headers. As such, if you have cc or bcc recipien=
ts,
you must declare them here. Note also that declaring recipients here does
*not* affect the To/From/Cc/Bcc headers in the actual e-mail message.
=3Dautomail ~/email_data ~/email_template cc_address1 bcc_address2=3D
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AlphaBeta# freebsd-update fetch install
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-BETA2 from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Preparing to download files... done.
No updates needed to update system to 8.0-BETA2-p1.
WARNING: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE.
Any security issues discovered after Thu Aug 13 20:00:00 EDT 2009
will not have been corrected.
AlphaBeta# freebsd-update install
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first.
AlphaBeta# uname -a
FreeBSD AlphaBeta 8.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Jul 15 23:25:30
UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
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>When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version
>number" (your term).
Yes. The kernel and a few important libraries and utilities comprise
the base system. They are kept separate from FreeBSD Ports, unlike in
Gentoo, where you can for example update your kernel or other parts of
the base system via Portage. Sometimes there are ports that overlap
in functionality with parts of the base system -- for example, there
are separate versions of openssl, openssh, gcc, kerberos, etc. in both
the base system and in ports -- but they are always updated
independently, and if you install a port with overlapping
functionality it will never overwrite the base system, but just
coexist with it.
>Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either
>"STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core
>operating system version number". From this point on, all application
>updates will arrive via "ports" .
The current FreeBSD Ports tree always contains the latest ports --
there is no separation into "stable" and "testing" branches like with
Portage, and there are no separate branches for different
architectures or different supported versions of the base system,
although some ports will not build for all of them. (There are of
course separate precompiled binary packages for the different
supported architectures and versions of the base system, although they
are all built with the same ports tree.) If you want don't want to
live on the cutting edge, then you can use a snapshot of the ports
tree or the corresponding pre-built binary packages that were shipped
with a FreeBSD release, as the ports tree is typically frozen and
tested immediately before a release. Of course, you are free to pick
any other snapshot that you want, or to use some other packaging
system like NetBSD's pkgsrc, for example. (This summer someone was
porting Portage to NetBSD, so maybe you will be able to use Portage
soon, too.)
>Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE
>ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE
>ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot
>install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)?
Sometimes there are ports that are marked as broken on certain
architectures or versions of the base system.
>If so, by what
>mechanism is he prevented?
Some lines in the port Makefile. Of course, you are free to tinker --
many ports marked as broken can be patched to work just fine, only no
one has gotten around to doing it yet.
What are the repercussions of never updating
>the "core operating system version number"?
Just like in Linux, the rest of the world moves on -- not all recent
improvements to the base system are backported to earlier versions of
the base system, and developers are reluctant to spend a lot of time
and energy fixing problems on very old versions of the base system.
Eventually, official support is dropped and you're on your own.
>1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating
>system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages:
>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/
>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
The ports tree is not associated with any one base system version, but
the pre-built binary packages _are_. If 6.4 is the latest release of
the base system in the 6.x branch, then 6-stable is the testing
version of the base system that willl eventually become 6.5.
Occasionally, changes made since the last release change the interface
between the base system and other software, so binary packages built
against 6.4 may not work on 6-stable. The 6-stable directory above
should contain binary packages built with a recent snapshot of the
ports tree on a recent snapshot of 6-stable, and so on.
>2. What is the difference between these two?
>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/
>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
>My guess:
>The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs.
Yes.
>The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating
>the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it.
Well, not every _five_ minutes. :)
b.
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Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Yes, all of the above. Basically, ports (or packages) install under
> /usr/local; everything else under /bin, /usr/bin, etc is part of the
> core OS.
Okay, I think I understand now.
Applications on a FreeBSD machine are broken into two categories:
1. Applications installed under /bin, /usr/bin, etc
2. Applications installed under /usr/local
The first group is called "core OS applications". The second is called
"ports applications." FreeBSD developers think carefully before
deciding in which group to place a new application.
Update applications in the first group using freebsd-update but first
decide whether you want RELEASE, STABLE, or CURRENT. Update
applications in the second group using CVS on the ports tree.
Sometimes applications in the second group will require an update to the
first group with a message like "Does not compile on FreeBSD < 7.0"
Some applications are in both groups and can exist simultaneously, such
as GCC.
Thank you for your help everyone. I am eager to try FreeBSD -- I had to
install it recently and I loved the documentation. Been using Gentoo
for many years.
Chris
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports.
>> The same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT.
>
> 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated?
> a) "core operating system version number"
> b) the ports collection
> c) something else
The core OS. If you install 7.2-RELEASE, and then update the OS
software against 7-STABLE (which is CVS tag RELENG_7), you will get
security fixes and other changes which will eventually become 7.3-
RELEASE.
If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd update
against RELENG_7_2 instead.
>>> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating
>>> system version number"?
>> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the
>> system.
>
> 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would
> arrive via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated
> via ports? (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is
> updated via portage and there is no "core operating system version
> number").
In other platforms, everything is a package, and can be updated via
portage, yum, etc. In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate
from installed ports or packages, and is updated separately from them.
Regards,
--
-Chuck
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:22:32PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> Andrew Gould wrote:
> >Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by
>
> Andrew,
>
> Thank you for your helpful reply. Please tell me if you think I have
> the correct understanding:
>
> When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version
> number" (your term). Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either
> "STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core
> operating system version number". From this point on, all application
> updates will arrive via "ports" .
You don't have this quite right.
The only thing that is versioned and called RELEASE, STABLE or CURRENT
with Installation ISO-s for installation is the base OS.
You can choose to install any version of the OS that you can get
the files for - preferably in an ISO. But, you really want to
install the latest RELEASE.
The ports are applications. A bunch of them are thrown in with
the ISOs because they are so commonly used. But, they are separate
from the base OS. Generally a port consists of the source code
and a set of procedures for building (configuring, compiling, linking,
installing and runtime configuring) the source code in to a running
application.
The ports are not tied directly to an OS version, Each port is
developed 'independantly' from the OS and has its own version
designation. But often there are things that they depend on in
the OS that may change over different versions. So a given version
of a port may only be buildable for a certain range of OS versions - or,
more often, the libraries that are part of the OS.
Many ports are utilities that run under several different operating systems.
The developers(maintainers) have just created the small variations
in code and build procedures to make it run on each OS and each OS version.
Some maintainers or other developers take a port and build it on and
for a specific version of the OS (a RELEASE of the OS). They bundle
it into a nice file or set of files that can be copied to your system
and applied with little extra work. The compiling, linking and
even some of the configuring are all done for you - generally presuming
the most commonly used settings. These are called packages and
these generally are good for only one version of one OS each. There
may be a number of packages available for a port built for different
versions of the OS. OpenOffice is a good example. It can be
installed from a port - completely built from the source and makefiles.
I have done it successfully several times. But it is a very big
port and very cumbersom and time consuming to build that way. So
probably most people just get the prebuilt package and install that.
>
> A question:
>
> Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE
> ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE
> ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot
> install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? If so, by what
> mechanism is he prevented? What are the repercussions of never updating
> the "core operating system version number"?
Your first sentence here already is off track. You would not
update to STABLE ports. Ports are what they are. You might
update the base OS to STABLE.
There may (and probably are) some ports that run on 7.2 RELEASE that
will not run on an earlier (6.4 version of the OS. That is because
the libraries will have been modified and the ports are always
built for the latest OS version.
The exception is if you download the ISO set for a particular OS
version, burn them on CDs and install the port from the CDs.
Of course, these CDs will not change. But the next set of ISOs
you download for a later OS version will be upgraded to go with
that OS version.
>
> FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system
> version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your ports).
Yup. Different concept. Lately I am having to muck with some
Linux stuff and after dealing with FreeBSD for 11 years or so, find
the Lunix to be very clunky.
>
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/
> >
> > They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There
> > are also stable directories for certain releases.
Pretty much any computer architecture that FreeBSD supports will have
the same OS version available. You do have to distinguish between
Intel/AMD 32 and 64 bit and Sparc and DEC and some of those. But
once you get the right ISO, the rest falls in place.
>
> Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions:
>
> 1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating
> system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages:
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
>
> 2. What is the difference between these two?
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/
Note that these are packages, instead of ports.
See discussion above.
////jerry
>
> My guess:
> The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs.
>
> The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating
> the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Chris
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:44:04PM -0700, Chris Cowart wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
[[ ... ]]
>
> Here's a script I whipped up a year or two ago that sends out e-mails.
> You could definitely tweak it to find/replace a LaTeX template and send
> it directly to the printer (circa the `| sendmail` line). See the
> included readme (excuse the twiki formatting). While it was written for
> bash, it may run under /bin/sh (but I make no claims).
>
> It's really straightforward. I would die a little inside if it were used
> to send HTML e-mail, but there's nothing to stop you from writing HTML
> (by hand) into the template (or saving a message out of your GUI MUA of
> choice into a flat file and using that as your template).
>
> --
> Chris Cowart
> Network Technical Lead
> Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
> UC Berkeley
[[ saving :-) ]]
>
> <verbatim>
> EMAIL;LNAME;FNAME;FOOD
> ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Cowart;Chris;Bananas
> keenanp@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Keenan;Parms;Ice Cream
> jeremydw@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Jeremy;Weinstein;Rabbit Food
> </verbatim>
>
> Call this file ~/email_data.
>
> *Note:* The only column title with special meaning is "EMAIL" and it *must*
> appear in the data file. All other columns follow brain-dead substitutions
> and do not affect the behavior of the automailer.
>
> ---++ The Template File
> Here, you compose your e-mail. Note you must conform to RFC822 (Here's a
> summary of the relevant points):
> * You must include the To, From, Cc, and Subject headers.
> * Headers must be properly formatted (=Name: Contents Can Have Spaces=)
> * The headers end with a blank line. There must be a blank line before
> you begin your message.
>
> *Example:*
>
> <verbatim>
> From: The Party Planning Committee <ppc@rescomp.berkeley.edu>
> To: FNAME LNAME <EMAIL>
> Subject: The Potluck
>
> Hello FNAME,
>
> Please remember to bring FOOD to the potluck.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Party Planning Committee
> </verbatim>
>
> Call this file ~/email_template.
>
> *Note:*
> * Column titles (see The Data File section) will be substituted with the
> current record's column contents. The address in the EMAIL column will
> receive a copy of the message.
> * Including a Cc or Bcc header in the template will *NOT* affect who
> receives a copy of the message.
>
> *Warning:* The recipient will receive the message AS-IS.
> __Bcc Headers will not be filtered__.
>
> ---++ Sending the Message
>
> After you declare the data file and template file (in that order), you may
> add e-mail addresses to the command line (e.g., hiring@rescomp.berkeley.edu).
> Note that other than the recipient address, no addresses (Bcc or Cc) are
> parsed from your message's headers. As such, if you have cc or bcc recipients,
> you must declare them here. Note also that declaring recipients here does
> *not* affect the To/From/Cc/Bcc headers in the actual e-mail message.
>
> =automail ~/email_data ~/email_template cc_address1 bcc_address2=
Thanks to my friends amd fellow nerds who have come thru with this.
It turns out that there were only Seven people/firms for what I originally
wanted. [ it had to do with sellinf my book ]. --well, actually there
were 8 but the last one seemed like a stuffed shirt, so i passed on that
guy.
where these kinds of scripts will be useful is when i look for a job as an
ethicist. (I know, I know; wall street doesn't know what ethics is... .)
still, there are other places where the discipline is essential.
later on, people,
gary
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At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strau=DF wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>> > On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
>> > > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to
>> > > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-)
>> > >
>> > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier
>> > > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects
>> >
>> > I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days.
>>
>> Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the
>> identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors
>> to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler
>> and linker.
>>
>> Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic
>> restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited
>> it.
>>
>> > Interesting.
>> >
>> > Erich
>>
>> Regards,
>> -cpghost.
>
>Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot.
>Live was so easy.
>
>Heiner
>
>C (one word =3D 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software)
As something of an ancient curmudgeon these days, I've enjoyed
this discussion. As speculation on my part, perhaps the six
character limitation is less a software issue than an early
architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 design used 36-bit words
and packed six characters (clearly from a limited subset of the
then current ASCII) per word, making simple searches very
effective through symbol tables with a simple word level
compare loop.
While likely not all that closely related to the issue, I
recall a technique I was introduced to on Control Data systems
called COSY, in which one punched binary coded Hollerith cards
with two characters per column encoded (six bits per
character). Of course, such cards required excellent handling
equipment (which Control Data had) because a stack of cards
punched with 960 holes in each one had lots of opportunity for
hanging chads.
--
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Wump Research & Company
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That error is gcc oh-so-helpfully telling you that it decided not to inline
an function declared inline. Why the gcc devs decided that was deserving of
a diagnostic on -Wall is beyond me. I think that you can squelch it by
passing -Wno-inline to gcc.
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Roald de Vries <rdv@roalddevries.nl> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf.
> During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs remote:~
> /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or
> directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
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does kldstat list the appropriate module?
15 1 0xcbe3a000 e000 fuse.ko
start it manually:
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start
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Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com> wrote:
> STABLE is what it sounds like.
I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are
development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security
branches that are intended for production use.
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:51:24PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> I wonder if they work under ia64 linux?
I don't know. A quick check of NetBSD seems to indicate that their ia64
port only runs in emulation mode; OpenBSD doesn't list an ia64 port.
mcl
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:27 PM, RW wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500
> Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com> wrote:
> STABLE is what it sounds like.
>
> I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are
> development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security
> branches that are intended for production use.
It's reasonable for people who update and build their own software
image to do some level of qualification of the result, before
deploying this to production systems. Whether you track -STABLE or
the security branch for your initial release ought to be determined
more by your preferences to minimize the scope of OS updates versus
your desire for relevant new functionality.
Regards,
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Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200
> Mark Stapper <stark@mapper.nl> wrote:
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> =20
>> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD
>> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw).
>> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is
>> quite important to me.
>> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and,
>> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far.
>> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow
>> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still,
>> better than nothing.
>> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go =
on
>> FreeBSD amd64...
>> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me n=
ot
>> having any 32-bit libraries installed.
>>
>> =20
>
> So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image?
>
> You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contai=
n
> it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by
> "make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is n=
ot,
> by default).
>
> Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld",=
> assuming you have the src tree installed.
>
> =20
>> My questions are two fold:
>> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD =
8
>> amd64?
>>
>> =20
>
> qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been usi=
ng
> it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu
> performance-wise.
>
> =20
>> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64?
>>
>> =20
>
> See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite=
=2E
>
> ---
> Gary Jennejohn
> =20
Thanks all for your reply's.
I was planning on doing a kernel/world upgrade anyway since that's what
I like doing :-) (need to test a patch from Junch-uk Kim anyway...)
Now I really have no more reason not to run FreeBSD as desktop... Maybe
except for good nvidia drivers.....
thanks again.
Greetz,
Mark
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Hi:
I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg
shows this:
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected.
So, now some questions:
First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I
recover these files?
Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on
that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate
partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in
fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's
been days since I logged in as root.
How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first
place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other
problems.
Thanks, Erik
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> Dear all,
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> I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf.
> During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs remote:~
> /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or
> directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
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try an explicit path as well rather than ~
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Hi,
Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf?
I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for
example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries:
# interfaces
cloned_interfaces="carp1 bce0.10 carp10 bce0.20 carp20"
ifconfig_bce0_10="10.0.0.1/24"
ifconfig_bce0_20="10.0.1.1/24"
ifconfig_bce0_20_alias0="10.0.1.2/32"
ifconfig_carp10="vhid 10 advskew 100 pass MySecret 10.0.0.100/32"
ifconfig_carp20="vhid 20 advskew 15 pass MySecret 10.0.1.100/32"
# jails
jail_list="ns mail"
jail_ns_hostname="ns"
jail_ns_ip="10.10.10.1"
jail_mail_hostname="mail"
jail_mail_ip="10.10.10.2"
Instead I can rewrite this to:
# interfaces
cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} bce0.10"
ifconfig_bce0_10="10.0.0.1/24"
cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} bce0.20"
ifconfig_bce0_20="10.0.1.1/24"
ifconfig_bce0_20_alias0="10.0.1.2/32"
cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} carp10"
ifconfig_carp10="vhid 10 advskew 100 pass MySecret 10.0.0.100/32"
cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} carp20"
ifconfig_carp20="vhid 20 advskew 15 pass MySecret 10.0.1.100/32"
# jails
jail_list="${jail_list} ns"
jail_ns_hostname="ns"
jail_ns_ip="10.10.10.1"
jail_list="${jail_list} mail"
jail_mail_hostname="mail"
jail_mail_ip="10.10.10.2"
Now I can just comment out unused interface or jail, and it won't start up.
--
Artis Caune
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Dear Adam,
kldstat does list the appropriate module, and when I try to start it
manually, I get the respons 'fusefs is already running'.
Kind regards, Roald
On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:45 AM, Adam Vande More wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Roald de Vries
> <rdv@roalddevries.nl> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to
> rc.conf. During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do:
> "sshfs remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse
> device: No such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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> does kldstat list the appropriate module?
>
> 15 1 0xcbe3a000 e000 fuse.ko
>
> start it manually:
>
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start
>
> --
> Adam Vande More
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>=20
> I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable=3D"YES" to rc.conf. =
=20
> During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs =20
> remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No =20
> such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
Try running these commands:
kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start
sysctl vfs.usermount=3D1
=2E . . then using an absolute path rather than a relative path. If that
doesn't work, there's probably something wrong with the install, the
network setup, or the remote machine.
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> AlphaBeta# freebsd-update fetch install
> Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
> Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-BETA2 from update5.FreeBSD.org...
> done.
> Fetching metadata index... done.
> Inspecting system... done.
> Preparing to download files... done.
>
> No updates needed to update system to 8.0-BETA2-p1.
>
> WARNING: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE.
> Any security issues discovered after Thu Aug 13 20:00:00 EDT 2009
> will not have been corrected.
>
> AlphaBeta# freebsd-update install
> No updates are available to install.
> Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first.
>
>
> AlphaBeta# uname -a
> FreeBSD AlphaBeta 8.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Jul 15 23:25:30
> UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> i386
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wild guess, yer wondering why uname is not coming back as P1? it will not
change unless there's a kernel patch or you recompile it yourself.
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Mark Stapper writes:
> Gary Jennejohn wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200
>> Mark Stapper <stark@mapper.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD
>>> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw).
>>> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is
>>> quite important to me.
>>> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and,
>>> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far.
>>> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow
>>> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still,
>>> better than nothing.
>>> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on
>>> FreeBSD amd64...
>>> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not
>>> having any 32-bit libraries installed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image?
>>
>> You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contain
>> it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by
>> "make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is not,
>> by default).
>>
>> Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld",
>> assuming you have the src tree installed.
>>
>>
>>> My questions are two fold:
>>> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8
>>> amd64?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been using
>> it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu
>> performance-wise.
>>
>>
>>> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite.
>>
>> ---
>> Gary Jennejohn
>>
> Thanks all for your reply's.
> I was planning on doing a kernel/world upgrade anyway since that's what
> I like doing :-) (need to test a patch from Junch-uk Kim anyway...)
> Now I really have no more reason not to run FreeBSD as desktop... Maybe
> except for good nvidia drivers.....
And Adobe Flash (tm) ;-)
> thanks again.
> Greetz,
> Mark
>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard typed:
> Hi:
>
> I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg
> shows this:
>
> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
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> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
>
> The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected.
According to this, no file was affected.
> So, now some questions:
>
> First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I
> recover these files?
>
> Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on
> that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate
> partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in
> fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's
> been days since I logged in as root.
>
> How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first
> place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other
> problems.
>
> Thanks, Erik
>
>
> --
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Thanks Glen, I also can build the module with ndisgen, and it doesn't panic=
, but when I do ifconfig I can't see the ndis0 device.=20
However, I found this post on a Linux forum saying they can use the device.=
I wonder if freebsd can load linux drivers using linuxsulator?.
Leonardo M. Ram=E9
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--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Intel 5100 agn driver
> To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" <martinrame@yahoo.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:50 PM
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM,
> Leonardo M. Ram=E9<martinrame@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi, does anyone knows if the driver for the Intel 5100
> agn included in many new notebooks is ready to use in
> 7.2-STABLE for amd64?, if not, at least i'm looking for some
> pointers to creating a ndis wrapper for its WinXP driver.
> >
>=20
> Hi, Leonardo
>=20
> I'm in the same situation you are in.=A0 Regarding an
> official driver,
> there is not anything available (yet).=A0 The last post
> I saw in the
> -net archives mentions the driver was not currently being
> worked on (I
> do not know how much truth this holds now).
>=20
> Regarding ndis/ndisgen, I was able to create a module in
> 7.2-RELEASE
> and 8.0-BETA2, however both caused panics (which I was
> unable to get
> cores on - mostly because of time constraints).=A0 As
> expected, your
> results may vary.
>=20
> --=20
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In the last episode (Aug 18), Artis Caune said:
> Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf?
> I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for
> example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries:
Remember that every startup script sources rc.conf, sometimes very early or
late in the startup/shutdown sequence, so just make sure you don't echo
anything to stdout/stderr or try to run commands that might be on
filesystems that aren't mounted yet, and you should be fine.
--
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> Thanks Glen, I also can build the module with ndisgen, and it doesn't pan=
ic, but when I do ifconfig I can't see the ndis0 device.
>
> However, I found this post on a Linux forum saying they can use the devic=
e. I wonder if freebsd can load linux drivers using linuxsulator?.
>
Hi,
No, linuxulator won't work for kernel drivers, AFAIK. It's for ABI
compatibility.
I seem to have made some progress with ndisgen(8) and the drivers for
my laptop with this card - meaning, the panics stopped. Now there is
no ndis(4) device listed in ifconfig(8), however.
--=20
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Hi everybody,
I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked
lookup"
Who can explain me?
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Hi:
>=20
> I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg=20
> shows this:
>=20
> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
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> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
These GEOM_LABEL messagel have nothing to do with filesystem checks. You can
ignore them.
=20
> The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected.
>=20
> So, now some questions:
>=20
> First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I=20
> recover these files?
=46rom what you have shown it is impossible to tell.
A short filesystem check (fsck -F) is run at boot time. If no major problems
are found, the complete filesystem check is done later in the background.
The result of that check will be visible in /var/log/messages.
Roland
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> I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked
> lookup"
>
> Who can explain me?
Looks like it means you enabled an ioctl called debug.pfugidhack, which
results in releasing the pf mutex while looking up a socket. Make sure
you know what you're doing when you enable a debug flag.
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Hi everybody,
I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked
lookup"
Who can explain me?
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700,
> >> Walt Pawley <walt@wump.org> said:
>
> W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less
> W> a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10
> W> design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from a
> W> limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple
> W> searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word level
> W> compare loop.
>
> I'll second that. My first job for Uncle Sugar was on a DEC 10/55
> for the Air Force, and 36-bit words were a fact of life. There were
> lots of programs around for conversion to/from 32-bit words, just so
> we could talk to everybody else on Earth.
CDC (Control Data) mainframe machines used 6 bit characters.
I believe the 3600 series had 36 bit words.
The 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc, plus 170/750) used 60 bit words
but still used 6 bit characters. So, everything was all upper case.
It had 12 bit 'peripheral processors' which tended the 60 bit main
processor[s] so later started to use 12 bit characters or sometimes 8
in 12 to allow for upper/lower case. That was a Seymour Cray thing.
He designed their early mainframes before he bolted to make his
own companies (so he wouldn't have to conform to corporate control).
Later CDC came out with their 180 series that used 64 bit words
and 8 bit bytes. It was kind of a nice system but it was too late for
them. The world was turning to clusters of cheap CPU chips running UNIX
instead of massive mainframes running proprietary OSen and CDC didn't
jump on that bandwagon soon or strongly or cheaply enough.
Anyway, in those earliest of days, 6 bits was the economical character
set. But it was an obstacle to upper/lower case characters without
using some shift code. IBM and DEC started doing 8 bit bytes - I don't
know just when - and that allowed eash use of upper/lower characters and
so quickly determined the standard character size for a long time. Now
that 8 bit byte is a thorn in the side of those who want to create and
universalize a character set that is international.
////jerry
>
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Setup - DSL modem/router 192.168.2.1. Static IP of 192.168.2.100 to
FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Sun Aug 2
01:00:16 EDT 2009 root@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO
i386. DHCP in the .2.10 to .2.100 with two XP machines.
I've turned IPFW off, as well as the modem/router's firewall and the
same issue remains.
The FreeBSD box has apache-2.0.63_3 running. host resolves to my public
IP address. Ping from any machine hits the public IP. Trying to reach
apache or ssh via hostname.TLD or public IP always.. By 192.168.2.100,
all reach http/ssh fine.
With log_in_vain set to 1 and attempting to connect, my logs fill up with
Aug 18 15:05:10 jimmiejaz kernel: TCP: [192.168.2.10]:1064 to
[192.168.2.100]:80 tcpflags 0x2<SYN>; _syncache_add: Received duplicate
SYN, resetting timer and retransmitting SYN|ACK
Aug 18 15:05:10 jimmiejaz kernel: TCP: [192.168.2.10]:1064 to
[192.168.2.100]:80; syncache_timer: Response timeout, retransmitting (2)
SYN|ACK
I found this thread.
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/net/2008-02/msg00006.html
but it's older and doesn't really help.
Anyone happen to have an idea what's going on?
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I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read
only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If
I set /etc/fstab to:
/dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro
0 0
to mount it read only most of the time then do:
umount /backup
mount -o rw /backup
the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing
data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write.
Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and
touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated.
# uname -a
FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3
#1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/
obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386
Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot?
Thanks!
Scott
P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :)
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On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell <archon@silvertree.org> wrote:
> I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read
> only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If
> I set /etc/fstab to:
>
> /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro
> 0 0
On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:
mount -uw /
to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're
trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.
Try in your script:
mount -u -w /backups
or shorter by a little:
mount -uw /backups
do your stuff, then go back to read-only:
mount -ur /backups
HTH
>
> to mount it read only most of the time then do:
>
> umount /backup
> mount -o rw /backup
>
> the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing
> data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write.
>
> Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and
> touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated.
>
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3
> #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/
> obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386
>
> Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Scott
>
> P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :)
>
>
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On Aug 18, 2009, at 13:11:10, Tim Judd wrote:
> On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:
>
> mount -uw /
> to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're
> trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.
>
>
> Try in your script:
> mount -u -w /backups
> or shorter by a little:
> mount -uw /backups
>
> do your stuff, then go back to read-only:
> mount -ur /backups
>
>
> HTH
We have a winner. I am sheepish in admitting I didn't read the man
page well enough for mount.
Thanks for the answer!
Scott
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Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg
> shows this:
>
> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed.
> GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed.
>
> The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected.
>
> So, now some questions:
>
> First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I
> recover these files?
>
> Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on
> that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate
> partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in
> fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's
> been days since I logged in as root.
>
> How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first
> place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other
> problems.
>
> Thanks, Erik
>
>
Aloha Eric,
I think those readings are normal. But anything on a dead server is
cause for alarm. I have lost powersupplies and mobo's from power strikes.
If you have power failures often you can put the server (or desktop) on
an extended UPSupply. Here on the island we have some power outages that
last as long as 8 hours. (Earthquakes and wind storms).2 years ago I
took 2 small UPS and hooked them to 2 stationary gelcell batteries
(similar to car batteries), which allow my equipment of 4 servers to
remain up and online for at least 10 hours.
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Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness.
I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and
experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I
type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all
of my software doesn't work like vi does :)
Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list
subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise
and refuse to belong to web forums.
Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to
bring it up OT here on my favourite list?
Steve
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand<steve@ibctech.ca> wrote:
> Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness.
>
> I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and
> experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I
> type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all
> of my software doesn't work like vi does :)
>
> Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list
> subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise
> and refuse to belong to web forums.
>
> Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to
> bring it up OT here on my favourite list?
>
Hi, Steve
Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not.
And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
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--
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While installing kdebase4, I get the following error. What can I do to get this port installed.
[ 41%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/konsoleprivate_automoc.o
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[ 45%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/ProcessInfo.o
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool FreeBSDProcessInfo::readCurrentDir(int)':
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:751: error: 'kinfo_getfile' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: 'KF_FD_TYPE_CWD' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file'
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file'
*** Error code 1
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4.
Thanks,
Alain
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So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on
servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
who need it, it'd be great.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
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> Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account
> or not.
Perhaps it might be better to go to Usenet straight ahead. There's a
NG comp.editors, mostly about vim.
Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is
Google.
Both have their merits but groups.google.com has little IMHO.
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Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked
printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using
% lpr file
but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has
anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided?
Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of
my thesis, and this will be "single-sided-only" according to the rules.
So really, it's a dontcare.... well, other than I would like to know what
and where and why to change this in the OO config.
thanks guys,
gary
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> [...]
>
>> Google has a Vim group. =A0I'm not sure if you need a Google account
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>
> Perhaps it might be better to go to Usenet straight ahead. There's a
> NG comp.editors, mostly about vim.
>
> Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is
> Google.
Jump in all you want. After all, it was an admittedly [OT] post. :-)
I agree. I don't see much use for Google's usenet "interface."
(Especially since you can't post directly from it, AFAIK.)
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Sabine Baer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
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> [...]
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> NG comp.editors, mostly about vim.
>
> Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is
> Google.
> Both have their merits but groups.google.com has little IMHO.
Thanks Glen, Sabine,
The email list bounces upon sub are coming from an aliased Google address.
Not only that, I absolutely need write access. I've joined groups
through Google previously (that fit into my mailer), but couldn't post.
There is little more frustrating when you know you can help someone, but
can't speak.
Although I work within an ISP network, NNTP is a protocol that has
evaded me, and I don't have the time, nor the desire to learn about it.
What I do know is that this ISP does not have access to a proper news
server (that can be posted to), nor does any of it's direct peers.
Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is
ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable
illegal behaviour.
If this is the case, ideas on a (legal) workaround so posting to
text-only newsgroups would be great. Now that this has been brought up,
I'd be interested if I could barder with another small ISP for this
functionality. (post on -isp).
Steve
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Hi,
> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used
> on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have a feeling that it may be something like
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/desktopbsd-tools/pkg-descr
http://desktopbsd.net/
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Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent
where it always has.
FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a
GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the
design goal.
Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really
needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a
few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks,
you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows.
Steve
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Hi,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig<sbaig1@jhu.edu> wrote:
> So, I've been wondering about something. =A0FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used =
on
> servers. =A0Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation=
,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? =A0For th=
ose
> who need it, it'd be great.
>
You may want to have a look at:
http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com
http://pcbsd.org/
http://desktopbsd.net
--=20
Glen Barber
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Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is=
> ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable
> illegal behaviour.
No -- it's not legal problems, which offer no worse consequences than for=
defamatory postings on blogs or forums, but fashion. A lot of people
seem to prefer to use web forums rather than newsgroups. I can't see any=
particular advantage myself, and I've always preferred the e-mail/netnews=
style myself.
(Of course, for old farts like myself, this is a welcome return to the
blessed golden age of usenet circa 1993 before the ravening hordes of
AOL and it's successors descended upon it...)
Because of that perceived shift, and because running a full-feed NNTP ser=
ver
is no trivial undertaking, many of the cheaper sort of ISPs have stopped
providing NNTP as a standard part of their offerring.
=20
> If this is the case, ideas on a (legal) workaround so posting to
> text-only newsgroups would be great. Now that this has been brought up,=
> I'd be interested if I could barder with another small ISP for this
> functionality. (post on -isp).
There are a number of pay-for net news services available. The ones I
know of are based in Europe:
http://www.eternal-september.org/
=20
http://news.individual.net/
See also:
http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/
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Matthew
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Roland Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
>> The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected.
>>
>> So, now some questions:
>>
>> First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I
>> recover these files?
>
> From what you have shown it is impossible to tell.
>
> A short filesystem check (fsck -F) is run at boot time. If no major problems
> are found, the complete filesystem check is done later in the background.
> The result of that check will be visible in /var/log/messages.
Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that
I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remains:
1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash?
I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing
single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not
native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots.
2. When you have lost inodes or similar errors and stuff ends up in
lost+found, how do you figure out what it was and recover the lost files?
Is there a FBSD crash guide?
Thanks, Erik
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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
>
> > >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700,
> > >> Walt Pawley <walt@wump.org> said:
> >
> > W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation
> is less
> > W> a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's
> PDP-6/10
> > W> design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from
> a
> > W> limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple
> > W> searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word
> level
> > W> compare loop.
> >
> > I'll second that. My first job for Uncle Sugar was on a DEC
> 10/55
> > for the Air Force, and 36-bit words were a fact of life. There
> were
> > lots of programs around for conversion to/from 32-bit words, just
> so
> > we could talk to everybody else on Earth.
>
> CDC (Control Data) mainframe machines used 6 bit characters.
> I believe the 3600 series had 36 bit words.
> The 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc, plus 170/750) used 60 bit words
> but still used 6 bit characters. So, everything was all upper case.
> It had 12 bit 'peripheral processors' which tended the 60 bit main
> processor[s] so later started to use 12 bit characters or sometimes 8
> in 12 to allow for upper/lower case. That was a Seymour Cray thing.
> He designed their early mainframes before he bolted to make his
> own companies (so he wouldn't have to conform to corporate control).
And I always thought it was 14 bit with 7 bit characters, perhaps this
is why my outputs looked strange :) This was the last model I've used:
http://www.cray-cyber.org/systems/cy960.php
> Later CDC came out with their 180 series that used 64 bit words
> and 8 bit bytes. It was kind of a nice system but it was too late for
> them. The world was turning to clusters of cheap CPU chips running
> UNIX
> instead of massive mainframes running proprietary OSen and CDC didn't
> jump on that bandwagon soon or strongly or cheaply enough.
>
> Anyway, in those earliest of days, 6 bits was the economical character
> set. But it was an obstacle to upper/lower case characters without
> using some shift code. IBM and DEC started doing 8 bit bytes - I
> don't
> know just when - and that allowed eash use of upper/lower characters
> and
> so quickly determined the standard character size for a long time.
Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
The problem was, the programmers packed the string into integer arrays.
2 characters in 1 integer saved a lot of space, but the VAX didn't like
this style.
> Now
> that 8 bit byte is a thorn in the side of those who want to create
> and
> universalize a character set that is international.
>
> ////jerry
>
Wasn't it just 3 or 4 releases ago FreeBSD went 8 bit clean ?
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> Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked
> printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using
>
> % lpr file
>
> but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has
> anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided?
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> Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of
> my thesis, and this will be "single-sided-only" according to the rules.
> So really, it's a dontcare.... well, other than I would like to know what
> and where and why to change this in the OO config.
It works for me, using 3 steps:
1) Use CUPS instead of lpd
2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing
3) Install OOo with CUPS support
I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though.
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> I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I
> need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can
> you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd
it's free along with the many, many, many software packages fBSD
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> I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I
> need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can
> you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd
FreeBSD is free, and any updates are free. Third party applications may
or may not be free depending on the license terms and the intended
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There is only one operating system (AFAIK) that claims a definite level
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impresive track record. This is defined as there are no known remote
exploits in the most resent version in the default instalation. However,
any change to the default configuration or installation of third party
applications may change that.
Really, there is no common or objective scale for comparing the security
of different systems. Regardless of any claims, all liability is disclaimed.
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edge in any one area.
All of that being said, PC-BSD is a desktop solution on FreeBSD. You
can download it for free or purchase it with support:
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> I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will
> I pay if I need additional package like updates and other
> useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how
> protected i will be if i use freebsd
FreeBSD is released under the BSD license:
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About the security on FreeBSD --- and most FOSS platforms
=2D-- it depends on the system administrator. Reaching
exploitable bugs is strange with a well done configuration.
>
> [SNIP]
Best regards,
=2D-=20
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> I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will
> I pay if I need additional package like updates and other
> useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how
> protected i will be if i use freebsd
FreeBSD is released under the BSD license:
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
Most third party software is licensed as OSI Approved:
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/category
Some third party software have commercial restrictions,
but are the minor ones...
The only restrictions that you have to use FreeBSD are
those restrictions which the license have. It also applies
to third party software that you like to use.
About the security on FreeBSD --- and most FOSS platforms
=2D-- it depends on the system administrator. Reaching
exploitable bugs is strange with a well done configuration.
>
> [SNIP]
Best regards,
=2D-=20
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> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"?
On Debian Lenny, let me know how the install of kde4 goes. Not attempting
to disregard your view, just saying there are roadblocks to every approach.
IMO, the FreeBSD method allows for greatest flexibility.
> For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
Really, all the desktop options you get on Linux are available
for FreeBSD. KDE and Gnome are the main things and many people
install one of them to make a desktop environment. The main difference
with FreeBSD over Lunix is that Linux sort of forces it on you and
FreeBSD gives you a choice. That means you have to click one more
thing during installation to get that stuff installed. But, if you
are doing a server, you don't have to spend an extra hour or two
getting rid of all the bloat you don't need or want like on some
other systems.
To add to that, some people have packaged desktop versions of FreeBSD
with all those gui extras already included just to make you happy.
Probably someone else will post their favorites with links.
////jerry
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig<sbaig1@jhu.edu> wrote:
>> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose=
>> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been us=
ed on
>> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installatio=
n,
>> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For t=
hose
>> who need it, it'd be great.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sabeeh Ahmed Baig
>=20
> I am of the opinion that specializing in everything is the same thing
> as specializing in nothing. (Said another way: If everything is a
> priority, nothing is.) Every operating system has its strengths and
> weaknesses. The more an operating system becomes
> all-things-to-all-users, the more it tends to lose its comparative
> edge in any one area.
>=20
> All of that being said, PC-BSD is a desktop solution on FreeBSD. You
> can download it for free or purchase it with support:
> http://www.pcbsd.org/
That's true, but the FreeBSD "thing" is performance[*] which, curiously e=
nough
is at the core of a good desktop system as well as the core of a good ser=
ver
system. In fact, the missing parts required to make a good desktop out o=
f
FreeBSD are more to do with graphics hardware support -- much of which co=
mes
out of the Xorg project now -- and support for various proprietary data f=
ormats and software packages like flash, and, of course, a really well wr=
itten user interface.
Or to put it another way, you can build a good desktop system based on a =
good
server OS, but it's pretty hard to build a good desktop system based on a=
bad
server OS.
Cheers,
Matthew
[*] and for completeness, the NetBSD "thing" is portability, and the Open=
BSD "thing" is security. Not that the big three *BSDs are entirely lacki=
ng in any
of those departments.
--=20
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:42:39PM +0200, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote:
> I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I
> need additional package like updates and other useful software,
Nothing if you install stuff from ports or from any of the many free
software products available. If you need something, first look
through the 'ports' list on FreeBSD. It is probably there. It might
take some hints as to just which ports directory to look under, but
people will usually make useful suggestions if you ask on the list
with a specific question.
> and can
> you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd
More secure than most other systems. Especially more secure than
anything from Redmond. All of the tools for implementing and
monitoring security are available on FreeBSD. Of course you have
to use good practices. If you give away passwords or use bad
software, no system can help you with security. But FreeBSD
gives the best tools of the generally available (and especially the
freely available) operating systems for PCs.
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Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand:
> Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used
> > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop
> > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard
> > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great.
>
> God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent
> where it always has.
>
> FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a
> GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the
> design goal.
>
> Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really
> needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a
> few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks,
> you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows.
>
> Steve
That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions
comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that
or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question
returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't
you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ?
Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able
to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the
hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care
about.
And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-)
--
Beni.
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> It works for me, using 3 steps:
>
> 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd
CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd,
even if it's not the system one's. :-)
> 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing
It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an "operator
panel" where you can set default modes. As an example, you can
tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you
don't need additional configuration.
For "modern" printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers
and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is
needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer
languages, such as PS or PCL.
> 3) Install OOo with CUPS support
There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they
do not cover all the printer's capabilities.
> I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though.
With a real printer, it works by default. :-)
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> Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN
>=20
> http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
When you're there, don't miss "The story about Mel". By the
way... we have a Mel on our mailing list... :-)
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/mel.html
Little history lesson from far away:
In approx. 1950, the IBM N.O.R.C. processed numerical values
only. There were no plans to make the printer print characters
because "no need for this" was seen. Even the need for a
programming language like FORTRAN wasn't seen. :-)
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0200, beni wrote:
> Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand:
> > Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used
> > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop
> > > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard
> > > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great.
> >
> > God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent
> > where it always has.
> >
> > FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a
> > GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the
> > design goal.
> >
> > Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really
> > needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a
> > few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks,
> > you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows.
> >
> > Steve
>
> That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions
> comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that
> or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question
> returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't
> you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ?
> Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able
> to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the
> hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care
> about.
> And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-)
FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of
those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle
with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other
things built for you -- a FreeBSD desktop. I hear they install
real easily and work well. It is not what I need so I haven't
tried them, but rather than raile at those who are building a good
platform, just go and get one of those bundles. Seems you actually
have already - a pretty close to FreeBSD based bundle anyway.
////jerry
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that=
=20
> I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remain=
s:
>=20
> 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash?
One word: _backups_!
Multiple solutions are possible. You can have two disks in RAID1 (mirroring,
which is like instantaneous backup). Or you can have two disks where the
second is kept up-to-date by rsync running from cron (this also gives you a
limited undo functionality if you accidentaly delete a file). Ar you can ba=
ck
up to a NAS, USB connected disk or to tape.
> I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing=20
> single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not=
=20
> native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots.
If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a serial
null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the Handbook), you =
can
watch the boot process from the other system.
If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a network-accessib=
le
KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this:
http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html]=20
With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch the b=
oot
of the machine remotely.
> 2. When you have lost inodes or similar errors and stuff ends up in=20
> lost+found, how do you figure out what it was and recover the lost files?
You have to look at the contents of the files in lost&found. Usually it is
easier to restore from backup.
> Is there a FBSD crash guide?
Not that I know of. The only guidance that really matter would be "make sure
you have backed up critical data". No need for elaborate guides. :-)
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of
> those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle
> with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other
> things built for you -- a FreeBSD desktop. I hear they install
> real easily and work well. It is not what I need so I haven't
> tried them, but rather than raile at those who are building a good
> platform, just go and get one of those bundles. Seems you actually
> have already - a pretty close to FreeBSD based bundle anyway.
Even if you state the existance of FreeBSD based preinstalled
and preconfigured GUI oriented desktop environments, the next
"problem" that will arise is the availability of a live file
system that can be booted and tried out, such as:
"The $NAME Linux distribution can be run from a DVD
and I don't have to install it in order to try it
out. And when I want, I can install it from the same
media. Why can't FreeBSD have such thing?"
The answer is: Is has. After a short read on the homepage of
the FreeBSD project, the reader will have learned that there
is a live file system (Fixit) on the install CDs or DVDs. But
that's text mode, so no deal.
BUT projects like FreeSBIE feature a XFCE driven FreeBSD based
preinstalled and preconfigured GUI oriented desktop environment
that can be used without installing anything. It's very useful
for diagnostics and recovery preparations. And it's FreeBSD.
I just wanted to mention it, in case a question like above
arises. It usually does. :-)
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used =
on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
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My workstation has been running FreeBSD since 5.3-RELEASE.=20
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In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I
installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I
installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it.
How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild?
Scott
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Hi,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Scott Schappell<archon@silvertree.org> wrote:
> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed
> FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X,
> however, I don't need it or really want it.
>
> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild?
>
You can deinstall the x11/xorg metaport. (Or, pkg_delete -x xorg.)
The "leftovers" can be removed with ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves.
HTH
--
Glen Barber
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> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I
> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I
> installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it.
>
> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild?
Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many iterations as
it needs.
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I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can
somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD.
Requirements:
1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot
up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts,
etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun"
2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net,
etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking
this is a normal end-user requirement.
3) <$200 even possible?
4) hook up gps units? cronjobs?
Am I dreaming?
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On Aug 19, 2009, at 09:19:56, Glen Barber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can deinstall the x11/xorg metaport. (Or, pkg_delete -x xorg.)
> The "leftovers" can be removed with ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves.
>
> HTH
>
>
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I've put FreeBSD on an Asus Eee PC before. It worked rather nicely. Just be
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>
> Not that I know of. The only guidance that really matter would be "make sure
> you have backed up critical data". No need for elaborate guides. :-)
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700, Jeff Hamann <jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com> wrote:
> 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot
> up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts,
> etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun"
There's a good procedure for what you're mentioning. It
takes placec on Asus EEEpc.
http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt
There's an updated version, too, but I didn't have that
in my bookmarks, and I'm too lazy to google for it. :-)
Additionally, check out the FreeBSD wiki at
http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee
about how to get FreeBSD on there.
I'm very sure there are other netbooks that can be used in the
same way.
> 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface,
Create user; entry al= in /etc/gettytab; set ~/.login to contain
startx; ~/.xinitrc and / or ~/.xsession to start DE or WM and
"autostart" applications as desired. Or use KDE.
> connect to net,
Correct settings in /etc/rc.conf for dhclient, or settings for
connecting to WLAN APs using the proper configuration files.
> etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?)
It's possible to do this with ZERO fingers, automatically. :-)
As I said, KDE comes with most functionalities needed for
that.
> I'm thinking
> this is a normal end-user requirement.
I do consider myself as a normal end-user, and I don't have such
a requirement, but finally, end-users are quite different, even in
what they think about other end-users. :-)
> 3) <$200 even possible?
I think it's possible.
> 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs?
First: Don't know, never needed, never tried. Consult documentation
of intended GPS unit.
Second: Yes.
> Am I dreaming?
No.
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> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> > It works for me, using 3 steps:
> >
> > 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd
>
> CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd,
> even if it's not the system one's. :-)
>
It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In
short, it has never worked.
>
>
> > 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing
>
> It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an "operator
> panel" where you can set default modes. As an example, you can
> tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you
> don't need additional configuration.
>
> For "modern" printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers
> and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is
> needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer
> languages, such as PS or PCL.
>
My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel.
Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr <file> single-
or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on
one-sided. [?]
>
>
> > 3) Install OOo with CUPS support
>
> There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they
> do not cover all the printer's capabilities.
>
Might help if I knew how to get CUPS working...
Anyway, I'll try CUPS again....
thanks,
gary
>
>
> > I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though.
>
> With a real printer, it works by default. :-)
>
>
>
>
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In
> short, it has never worked.
With "modern" printers that are not standard compliant, you
almost have no way around CUPS. Printers that can do PS don't
need any printer filter, and those who talk some standard
printer language, such as PCL, are fine with gs drivers,
as apsfilter employs them. PCL can, for example, control
if the printer should use duplex or not, or from which
cassette paper should be taken. This allows you to install
several printers, if you wish to use "redirection" to a
specific printer according to the features you want. And
it's quite easy.
Additionally, it'w roth mentioning that (at least office-class)
network printers do contain their own printer spooler system
that can be remotely controled via FreeBSD.
One of the major downsides of CUPS is, in my opinion, that
it does not allow you to add a parallel printer that is not
connected to the computer at booting time and at the moment
you want to make the installtion. Background story: A friend
wanted me to install CUPS for his parallel inkjet printer.
He told me name and model of the printer, but CUPS didn't
let me install it.
Sadly, there seem to be various printer filters that can be
used on FreeBSD, and you have to select the correct one
according to your printer: none, apsfilter, CUPS, hpijs,
gimp-print, gutenprint...
> My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel.
> Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr <file> single-
> or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on
> one-sided. [?]
An idea might be the following: OpenOffice outputs to PCL or
PS and defaults to a single page setting that is forced upon
the printer and overriding the preferred setting (duplex) from
the operator panel. I had this problem with the HP Laserjet 4000
duplex, too. My solution was to explicitely check the filter,
a gs command, to take the printer's setting; but that's not
CUPS, it's apsfilter, the "more lightweight but limited to
quite standard hardware little brother" of CUPS. :-)
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Sabeeh Baig wrote:
> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose
> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on
> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation,
> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those
> who need it, it'd be great.
>
Aloha Manolis Desk Top with XFCE works!
Have a look at Manolis Kiagias work at
>>> http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page
I run it on a HP MIni from a San Disk.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700 Walt Pawley <walt@wump.org>
> At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strauß wrote:
[..]
> >Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot.
> >Live was so easy.
> >
> >Heiner
> >
> >C (one word = 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software)
>
> As something of an ancient curmudgeon these days, I've enjoyed
> this discussion. As speculation on my part, perhaps the six
> character limitation is less a software issue than an early
> architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 design used 36-bit words
> and packed six characters (clearly from a limited subset of the
> then current ASCII) per word, making simple searches very
> effective through symbol tables with a simple word level
> compare loop.
Can I play in the ancient curmudgeonly nostalgia reunion too?
> While likely not all that closely related to the issue, I
> recall a technique I was introduced to on Control Data systems
> called COSY, in which one punched binary coded Hollerith cards
> with two characters per column encoded (six bits per
> character). Of course, such cards required excellent handling
> equipment (which Control Data had) because a stack of cards
> punched with 960 holes in each one had lots of opportunity for
> hanging chads.
First real systems programming job was converting $multinat's data files
from NCR 315 format (12-bit 'slabs' holding 2 6-bit alphanum upper-case
characters or 3 4-bit BCD numbers, on 7 track tape and some paper tape)
to IBM 360 format (8 bit EBCDIC chars or BCD numerics, on 9 track tape),
which only took about 4 months, replacing a whole floor & tons of gear.
The NCR was also clearly designed around 80-column punch cards; 2 alphas
or 3 digits or one 12-bit instruction code per column. The programmer's
art was judged (by peers, not management :) on what your best single
card 80-slab program could do once booted .. test runs of which involved
turning up at the end of The Operator's shift and likely offering some
$inducement, after conning one of the punch girls into typing 160 chars
of utter gibberish for no apparent reason ..
</OT nostalgia>
cheers, Ian
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Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with
OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is
say
Duplex __ [arrows]
Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page
config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King
will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c.
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Jeff Hamann wrote:
> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can
> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD.
>
> Requirements:
>
> 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up
> and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc.
> not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun"
> 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net, etc.
> without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking this is
> a normal end-user requirement.
> 3) <$200 even possible?
> 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs?
>
> Am I dreaming?
>
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Aloha,
I installed Manolis desktop (DVD) on a sandisc and it works fine from a
USB port on an HP 1000 mini netbook. (The netbook has Ubuntu Linux on
the internal drive BTW). So I figured it would work with another UNIX.
http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with
> OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is
> say
>
> Duplex __ [arrows]
Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex
is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software!
This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative
error handling, it went like this:
switch error
case 1: "printer not connected";
case 2: "scanner not connected";
case 4: "keyboard not connected";
case 8: "some other error";
...
default: "file not found"; (without mentioning which file)
Maybe OO should add something like "In order to activate a
feature, deactivate it". :-)
> Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page
> config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King
> will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c.
I hope both are well, "up and running". :-)
By the way, long time that I saw someone write "&c.".
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Al Plant wrote:
> Jeff Hamann wrote:
>> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can
>> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD.
>>
>> Requirements:
>>
>> 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot
>> up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts,
>> etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun"
>> 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net,
>> etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking
>> this is a normal end-user requirement.
>> 3) <$200 even possible?
>> 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs?
>>
>> Am I dreaming?
>>
>>
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>
>
> Aloha,
>
> I installed Manolis desktop (DVD) on a sandisc and it works fine from
> a USB port on an HP 1000 mini netbook. (The netbook has Ubuntu Linux
> on the internal drive BTW). So I figured it would work with another UNIX.
>
> http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page
>
>
Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying
a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the
hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check
video card and wireless chipset. The original one is equipped with Intel
950 and an Atheros wireless. Avoid models with the Z520 - Z530 atom cpu.
Go for an N270-280 model).
The biggest problems with running FreeBSD on such a device (at least in
my opinion) are:
- Suspend and resume not working. Using powerd though, battery time is
quite good
- CPU is underpowered so forget compiling ports on it (the occasional
small port is OK, larger stuff is a no go). Kernel compilation takes 55
minutes on the One.
A quick note on the XFCE DVD: I will be releasing a version based on
FreeBSD 8, soon after 8.0 is released. I will also rerun a 7.2 build at
about the same time.
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John Nielsen wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote:
>> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I
>> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I
>> installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it.
>>
>> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild?
>
> Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many iterations as
> it needs.
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To be safe, after you have deleted leaf ports you can install
ports-mgmt/portmanager and run 'portmanager -s' redirected to a file
then you will have a list of any missing ports. 'portmanager -u' will
reinstall them for you. Of course you can probably do the same with
portmaster or portupgrade but I've found portmanager does a pretty good
job.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11:20PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Al Plant wrote:
> > Jeff Hamann wrote:
> >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can
> >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD.
Too soon to know, but I've just ordered the Starling, a netbook sold by System76.com. They ship it with Ubuntu, and that means it may well run other *nixes as well. I've got a copy of PC-BSD I'm excited to try to load on it, since I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu in general.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:28:34PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
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> >
> > Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with
> > OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is
> > say
> >
> > Duplex __ [arrows]
>
> Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex
> is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software!
that should have been::
Duplex _OFF_ [arrows]
>
> This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative
> error handling, it went like this:
>
> switch error
> case 1: "printer not connected";
> case 2: "scanner not connected";
> case 4: "keyboard not connected";
> case 8: "some other error";
> ...
> default: "file not found"; (without mentioning which file)
LMOA! man, that's rich... sounds like some seriously lazy hacking
to me... .
>
> Maybe OO should add something like "In order to activate a
> feature, deactivate it". :-)
>
i'm actually starting a ~/.helpOOo file with tricks and tips about the
program, mostly swriter. there are some pretty sharp folks over on
oooforum.org. luckily:_)
>
>
> > Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page
> > config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King
> > will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c.
>
> I hope both are well, "up and running". :-)
>
> By the way, long time that I saw someone write "&c.".
>
not sure if easier to type "etc." or "&c", given the shift-7 == '&'
... but it's different.
gary
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Dear list,
I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and
eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox
works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the
installation media won't boot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/
The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one
second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at
the image).
Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media.
Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots
automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem.
My hardware:
Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE
DVD drive (so nothing special).
Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine.
What might be the problem=3F
Thanks a lot for your help,
O.Leidinger
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>
> I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and
> eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox
> works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the
> installation media won't boot:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/
>
> The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one
> second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at
> the image).
>
> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
>
> And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media.
> Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots
> automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem.
>
> My hardware:
>
> Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE
> DVD drive (so nothing special).
>
Try disabling AHCI. I had to do that on an Intel board.
> Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine.
>
> What might be the problem?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
Hope it does help. :-)
--
Glen Barber
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>> Al Plant wrote:
>> > Jeff Hamann wrote:
>> >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can
>> >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD.
I'm displeased with my Lenovo S10. On the upside, all the hardware
worked on 7.2 out of the box, after I swapped the internal broadcom
wifi for a highpower atheros. The ACPI is a real nightmare on it,
however. dmesg is constantly full of acpi barfs, and it hangs on
shutdown, and won't suspend, which is pretty much a requirement for a
notebook at my house. Tried all the standard lenovo acpi hacks, but
no luck.
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
>
> Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying
> a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the
> hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check
> video card and wireless chipset. The original one is equipped with Intel
> 950 and an Atheros wireless. Avoid models with the Z520 - Z530 atom cpu.
> Go for an N270-280 model).
> The biggest problems with running FreeBSD on such a device (at least in
> my opinion) are:
>
> - Suspend and resume not working. Using powerd though, battery time is
> quite good
> - CPU is underpowered so forget compiling ports on it (the occasional
> small port is OK, larger stuff is a no go). Kernel compilation takes 55
> minutes on the One.
There are a lot of variations of the One. I just installed 8.0 on an
AOA150. This is the version with the 160G hard drive instead of an SSD,
and it's really not bad for building ports. ccache helps with building
kernel and world.
Neither of the two card readers seems to be supported, unfortunately.
One way around hardware problems for the original purpose would be to
run FreeBSD in a VM on Windows.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Aloha,
Terminal history gone.
I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh
history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a
new login however. This happens on several machines that previously ran
FreeBSD 7* with no issues. One runs AMD64 and one i386 versions.I can
load Manolis Kiagias Desk top version on them and it works fine as do
other 7.* versions.
I suspect it has to do with PXE ? or something changed in the later
versions of 8 Current & BETA 1 and 2 since I have 2 boxes running early
versions of 8 CURRENT where everything works fine and the history
remains in tact following a reboot.
What can I do to get the history to remain in memory across a reboot?
Changing the capicity of set history to greater than 100 does not affect it.
Thanks....
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On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
installed.
As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
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But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
Is something else necessary?
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote:
> Aloha,
>
> Terminal history gone.
>
> I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh
> history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new
> login however.
Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of
"reboot"?
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Warren Block wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote:
>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Terminal history gone.
>>
>> I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh
>> history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a
>> new login however.
>
> Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of
> "reboot"?
>
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
>
Aloha Warren,
No. I used shutdown -r now and shutdown -h now and they both blow it away.
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote:
> Warren Block wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote:
>>>
>>> Terminal history gone.
>>>
>>> I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh
>>> history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new
>>> login however.
>>
>> Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of
>> "reboot"?
>
> No. I used shutdown -r now and shutdown -h now and they both blow it away.
My thinking was that reboot is more abrupt than shutdown, and killed the
shell without giving it a chance to write out the history.
But I've never noticed the history in a csh being written out before a
reboot of either type.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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On 8/19/09, Olaf Leidinger <leidola@web.de> wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and
> eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox
> works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the
> installation media won't boot:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/
>
> The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one
> second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at
> the image).
>
> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
>
> And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media.
> Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots
> automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem.
>
> My hardware:
>
> Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE
> DVD drive (so nothing special).
>
> Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine.
>
> What might be the problem?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> O.Leidinger
General answer to anyone having trouble booting or working reliably in bsd:
In BIOS, disable PnP OS (may not have this exact verbiage, another
common one is "Win95 installed")
Also in BIOS, disable power management (HDD spindown, system standby, etc)
try booting again. If it still fails, go into BIOS and "Load Safe
Defaults" or whatever they call it, resetting all tweaks of the BIOS
config to defaults and try booting.
Some mobos just have quirks that need a BIOS update, try that last.
Welcome to BSD.
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand<steve@ibctech.ca> wrote:
> > Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness.
> >
> > I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and
> > experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I
> > type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all
> > of my software doesn't work like vi does :)
> >
> > Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list
> > subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise
> > and refuse to belong to web forums.
> >
> > Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to
> > bring it up OT here on my favourite list?
> >
>
> Hi, Steve
>
> Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not.
>
> And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list
AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if
that was necessary to sign up).
I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being
subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar
posts there occasionally.
Recommended reading.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Glen Barber
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Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> John Nielsen wrote:
>> On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote:
>>> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I
>>> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I
>>> installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it.
>>>
>>> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete
>>> rebuild?
>>
>> Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many
>> iterations as it needs.
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> To be safe, after you have deleted leaf ports you can install
> ports-mgmt/portmanager and run 'portmanager -s' redirected to a file
> then you will have a list of any missing ports. 'portmanager -u' will
> reinstall them for you. Of course you can probably do the same with
> portmaster or portupgrade but I've found portmanager does a pretty
> good job.
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You probably allready did this, but you might want to add:
"WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes" to make.conf
This will disable optional X support in certain ports.
Greetz,
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El día Wednesday, August 19, 2009 a las 06:59:47PM +0200, Polytropon escribió:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700, Jeff Hamann <jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com> wrote:
> > 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot
> > up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts,
> > etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun"
>
> There's a good procedure for what you're mentioning. It
> takes placec on Asus EEEpc.
>
> http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt
The above URL is for 7.0-RELEASE (or also RELENG_7). For 8-CURRENT use:
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Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
>> Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that
>> I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remains:
>>
>> 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash?
>
> One word: _backups_!
>
>> I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing
>> single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not
>> native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots.
>
> If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a serial
> null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the Handbook), you can
> watch the boot process from the other system.
>
> If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a network-accessible
> KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this:
> http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html]
> With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch the boot
> of the machine remotely.
Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem
against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot.
- How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash
will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode
intervention?
backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering
lost data but don't prevent the crash.
KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it
makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption.
UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but
that doesn't answer the question either.
Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of a
crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up nicely
again?
BR, Erik
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Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Roland Smith wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
>>> Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know
>>> that I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second
>>> question remains:
>>>
>>> 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash?
>>
>> One word: _backups_!
>>
>>> I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing
>>> single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm
>>> not native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it
>>> boots.
>>
>> If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a
>> serial
>> null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the
>> Handbook), you can
>> watch the boot process from the other system.
>>
>> If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a
>> network-accessible
>> KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this:
>> http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html]
>> With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch
>> the boot
>> of the machine remotely.
>
> Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem
> against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot.
>
> - How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash
> will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode
> intervention?
>
> backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering
> lost data but don't prevent the crash.
>
> KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it
> makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption.
>
> UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but
> that doesn't answer the question either.
>
> Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of
> a crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up
> nicely again?
>
> BR, Erik
If u want to reduce the posibility of data corruption I sugest using a
smart UPS with management software installed and configured so that
before battery power goes out it will do a clean shutdown and also
restart the system when AC power is restored (see apcupsd).
That is what I'm using.
Regards,
Sebastian Seidl
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Hello,
How can I switch from one network interface to another without rebooting
my system (7.2R)?
Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces
(wired em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL
wireless box which comes with default settings so that I have to start
with connecting my laptop via em0.
em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface
and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this
point I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection
via wireless box.
I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the cable.
I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to:
ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO"
ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP"
Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via
DHCP and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up).
But whenever I try to ping anything (including wireless box) I get
"interface down" message because my system still tries to use em0.
What else should I do to tell it that I'm connected to network via ath0 now?
Any suggestions are welcome.
Michal
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>> STABLE is what it sounds like.
>
> I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are
> development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security
> branches that are intended for production use.
>
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also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project
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> On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote:
>> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
>> installed.
>>
>> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
>> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
>> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
>>
>> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
>> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so.
>>
>> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
>>
>> Is something else necessary?
>
> I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal
> user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox
> picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers
> scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have
> to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the
> npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
That works!
I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root.
There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But
this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh
install, not an update to a previous version.
Should the Handbook instructions be updated?
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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> Hello,
>
> How can I switch from one network interface to another without rebooting my
> system (7.2R)?
>
> Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces (wired
> em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL wireless
> box which comes with default settings so that I have to start with
> connecting my laptop via em0.
> em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface
> and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this point
> I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection via
> wireless box.
> I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the
> cable.
> I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to:
> ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO"
> ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP"
> Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via DHCP
> and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up).
>
> But whenever I try to ping anything (including wireless box) I get
> "interface down" message because my system still tries to use em0.
> What else should I do to tell it that I'm connected to network via ath0
> now?
>
> Any suggestions are welcome.
> Michal
> --
> "The quiter you become, the more you can hear." -Ram Dass
>
>
> /etc/rc.d/netif stop em0
/etc/rc.d/netif start ath0
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Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2
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On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote:
> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
> installed.
>
> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
>
> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so.
>
> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
>
> Is something else necessary?
I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal
user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox
picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers
scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have
to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the
npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
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Hi,
Are these lock order reversals reported any reason for preoccupation and/or should I report elsewhere?
The kernel I just built does not boot at all, so I don´t know whether these are a closed issue already. I´m off for a couple of days and will retry then.
Thanks & regards,
Peter.
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Note: Kernels are GENERIC w/o i386/i486 options,
Plus from no 4 onwards with VIMAGE and w/o SCTP option,
All fs encrypted with geli except /.
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Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #3: Sun Aug 16 10:28:08 UTC 2009
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: root@netserv.ka.cornelius:/usr/Obj-RELENG_8/usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/NETSERV
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium III (1004.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: real memory = 1610612736 (1536 MB)
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: avail memory = 1559375872 (1487 MB)
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: ACPI APIC Table: <ASUS CUV4X-D >
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s)
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 3
Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0
(...)
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d413f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5782000 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e782c75c,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2be90,c4d2f228,e782c7b8,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c5782000,c0c97efa,c4d2f228,c0c97b8a,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5782000,9,c0c97b8a,11d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c5782000,0,c0c97b8a,11d,c58d9ae0,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(d8d41390,da0ab800,200,da0ab818,e782c888,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_add(c58d9ae0,e782c8d0,818,e782c874,e782c878,...) at ufsdirhash_add+0x13
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c596953c,c596696c,e782c8d0,e782cbd0,0,...) at ufs_direnter+0x729
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode(e782cbd0,0,e782cabc,e782ca18,c0bbc895,...) at
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode+0x508
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_create(e782cabc,e782cad4,0,0,e782cba4,...) at ufs_create+0x30
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV(c0d77740,e782cabc,e782cbd0,e782ca54,0,...) at VOP_CREATE_APV+0xa5
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open_cred(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,0,c51d2b00,...) at vn_open_cred+0x215
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,c51fadc8,c0c98f76,...) at vn_open+0x3b
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_openat(c5232000,ffffff9c,28412180,0,a02,...) at kern_openat+0x11f
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_open(c5232000,28412180,0,a01,1a4,...) at kern_open+0x35
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: open(c5232000,e782ccf8,c,c0c77024,c0d55f6c,...) at open+0x30
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: syscall(e782cd38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x28335923, esp = 0xbfbfe7bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe7e8 ---
(...)
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc6df37ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:497
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8debf40 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e3f164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78b33cc,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c76774,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c76774,c4d2be90,c4d2f1c0,e78b3428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c76774,c6e3f164,c0c690c7,c4d2f1c0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e3f164,9,c0c7db33,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e3f164,80100,c6e3f180,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78b3538,c08c0acb,c0c7d00b,80100,c6e3f10c,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d77740,e78b3538,c549d0a4,c0d90140,c6e3f10c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e3f10c,80100,c0c7db33,823,4,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vget(c6e3f10c,80100,c549d000,50,0,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5488508,44371d7,80000,c549d000,e78b3694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5488508,44371d7,80000,e78b3694,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c6df3754,0,c0c977fa,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c6df3754,1,c0c6ec41,c0c686fc,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c6df3754,200,0,880,c5623680,...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c6df3754,c6e3f10c,e78b3a1c,e78b3c00,d8db4e30,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78b3c28,e78b3c3c,0,0,e78b3b6c,...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d77740,e78b3c28,e78b3c00,e78b3b6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c549d000,ffffff9c,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c549d000,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,e78b3d2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e
Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: mkdir(c549d000,e78b3cf8,8,c,c0d56dc0,...) at mkdir+0x29
Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: syscall(e78b3d38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), eip = 0x281698e3, esp = 0xbfbfe86c, ebp = 0xbfbfe938 ---
(...)
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc901dce8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc9dfa7ac devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78ad814,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2f1c0,c4d2f0f0,e78ad870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c9dfa7ac,c0c6529f,c4d2f0f0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c9dfa7ac,9,c0c7db33,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c9dfa7ac,80100,c9dfa7c8,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e78ad978,c08c0acb,c0c654e2,80100,c9dfa754,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d52ae0,e78ad978,c549d524,c0d90140,c9dfa754,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c9dfa754,80100,c0c7db33,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vget(c9dfa754,80100,c549d480,15e,c0c653fb,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5ce4c00,c51ca78c,e78ada10,9d,c0f31578,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c51ca78c,80000,e78adc30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c549d480,0,c5ccea80,c5ccea80,bfbfdac9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: nmount(c549d480,e78adcf8,c,c,c0d58838,...) at nmount+0x75
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: syscall(e78add38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfda9c, ebp = 0xbfbfdff8 ---
(...)
Aug 18 13:10:29 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34 UTC 2009
(...)
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 ---
(...)
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 ---
(...)
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d299f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc518e200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7894a74,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1bfc8,c4d1f1c0,e7894ad0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c518e200,c0c42b70,c4d1f1c0,c0c42800,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c518e200,9,c0c42800,11d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c518e200,0,c0c42800,11d,d9c2b36c,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(0,e,c51b3000,d8d29990,d9c2b36c,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_remove(c57050e8,d9c2b36c,36c,e7894b60,e7894b5c,...) at ufsdirhash_remove+0x14
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_dirremove(c56f410c,c56d8a6c,500800c,0,c56f410c,...) at ufs_dirremove+0xe5
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove(e7894c34,0,0,0,c571f53c,...) at
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove+0x6e
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV(c0d1f760,e7894c34,c571f53c,e7894c0c,80f5200,...) at
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV+0xa5
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlinkat(c570eb40,ffffff9c,80f5200,0,e7894c80,...) at kern_unlinkat+0x181
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlink(c570eb40,80f5200,0,e7894d2c,c0b5b453,...) at kern_unlink+0x27
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: unlink(c570eb40,e7894cf8,4,c0c3d0bc,c0d00b78,...) at unlink+0x22
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: syscall(e7894d38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: --- syscall (10, FreeBSD ELF32, unlink), eip = 0x283936cf, esp = 0xbfbfc70c, ebp = 0xbfbfc738 ---
(...)
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc5ab0164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8e8e8a0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e8a6a0 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e78fd3cc,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22dff,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22dff,c4d1bfc8,c4d1f158,e78fd428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22dff,c6e8a6a0,c0c15598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e8a6a0,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e8a6a0,80100,c6e8a6bc,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78fd538,c08be04b,c0c296d0,80100,c6e8a648,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e78fd538,c5a36764,c0d38160,c6e8a648,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e8a648,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,4,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vget(c6e8a648,80100,c5a366c0,50,0,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5459284,9701aa,80000,c5a366c0,e78fd694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5459284,9701aa,80000,e78fd694,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c5ab010c,0,c0c42470,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c5ab010c,1,c0c1b267,c0c14bcd,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c5ab010c,200,0,880,c56b3100,...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c5ab010c,c6e8a648,e78fda1c,e78fdc00,d8f0c300,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78fdc28,e78fdc3c,0,0,e78fdb6c,...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d1f760,e78fdc28,e78fdc00,e78fdb6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c5a366c0,ffffff9c,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c5a366c0,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,e78fdd2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: mkdir(c5a366c0,e78fdcf8,8,c0c23750,c0d01940,...) at mkdir+0x29
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: syscall(e78fdd38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), eip = 0x281698e3, esp = 0xbfbfe78c, ebp = 0xbfbfe858 ---
(...)
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc0d70d8c allprison (allprison) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:2449
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561ebdc ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2188
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e5295ab4,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d18138,c4d1f158,e5295b10,...) at
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561ebdc,c0c15598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561ebdc,9,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561ebdc,80100,c561ebf8,0,0,...) at
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e5295c20,c4d18138,c0c2a1f8,80100,c561eb84,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e5295c20,c086d663,c0d38160,c561eb84,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561eb84,80100,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: vrele(c561eb84,c0c182d5,998,991,c0d05320,...) at vrele+0x137
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_deref(e5295cd4,c08b76bb,c4f48000,1,c0c21720,...) at prison_deref+0x4c8
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_complete(c4f48000,1,c0c21720,54,c4ea515c,...) at prison_complete+0x10
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_run(c4ea5140,c4ea515c,0,c0c1260e,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_thread_loop(c0d84f68,e5295d38,c0c17e22,33e,c0d70440,...) at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x68
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_exit(c08b77b0,c0d84f68,e5295d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xe5295d70, ebp = 0 ---
(...)
(... failing to boot into recently-built kernel ...)
(...)
Aug 20 11:07:44 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34 UTC 2009
(...)
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc56177ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5617594 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e77f5814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e77f5870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c5617594,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5617594,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c5617594,80100,c56175b0,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e77f5978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561753c,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e77f5978,c51d99a4,c0d38160,c561753c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561753c,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vget(c561753c,80100,c51d9900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5225680,c545a000,e77f5a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c545a000,80000,e77f5c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c51d9900,0,c55f0480,c55f0480,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: nmount(c51d9900,e77f5cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: syscall(e77f5d38) at syscall+0x2a3
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 ---
(...)
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:30:41PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:12:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote:
> > >> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
> > >> installed.
> > >>
> > >> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
> > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
> > >> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
> > >>
> > >> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
> > >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so.
> > >>
> > >> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
> > >>
> > >> Is something else necessary?
> > >
> > > I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal
> > > user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox
> > > picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in
> > > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers
> > > scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have
> > > to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the
> > > npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
> >
> > That works!
> >
> > I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root.
> >
>
> The Handbook says:
>
> --
> Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is
> installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with
> nspluginwrapper:
>
> % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
> --
>
> So you should not run it as root.
>
> > There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But
> > this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh
> > install, not an update to a previous version.
> >
>
> Here what I did:
>
> % rm -rf .mozilla
> % nspluginwrapper -l
>
> % nspluginwrapper -a -i
> % nspluginwrapper -l
> /home/marc/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
> Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so
> Wrapper version string: 1.2.2
>
> So even if a $HOME/.mozilla does not exist, it'll be created by
> nspluginwrapper.
>
I forgot to say that
/usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/
just contains libnullplugin.so here.
> > Should the Handbook instructions be updated?
> >
>
> I don't think it's needed here.
>
> --
> Marc
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> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote:
> >> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
> >> installed.
> >>
> >> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
> >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
> >> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
> >>
> >> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
> >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so.
> >>
> >> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
> >>
> >> Is something else necessary?
> >
> > I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal
> > user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox
> > picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in
> > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers
> > scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have
> > to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the
> > npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
>
> That works!
>
> I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root.
>
The Handbook says:
--
Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is
installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with
nspluginwrapper:
% nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
--
So you should not run it as root.
> There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But
> this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh
> install, not an update to a previous version.
>
Here what I did:
% rm -rf .mozilla
% nspluginwrapper -l
% nspluginwrapper -a -i
% nspluginwrapper -l
/home/marc/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so
Wrapper version string: 1.2.2
So even if a $HOME/.mozilla does not exist, it'll be created by
nspluginwrapper.
> Should the Handbook instructions be updated?
>
I don't think it's needed here.
--
Marc
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> /etc/rc.d/netif stop em0
> /etc/rc.d/netif start ath0
>
Works like a charm, thank you so much.
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:12:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote:
>>>> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35
>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to
>>>> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so.
>>>> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally.
>>>>
>>>> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows
>>>> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so.
>>>>
>>>> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin".
>>>>
>>>> Is something else necessary?
>>>
>>> I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal
>>> user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox
>>> picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in
>>> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers
>>> scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have
>>> to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the
>>> npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
>>
>> That works!
>>
>> I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root.
>>
>
> The Handbook says:
>
> --
> Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is
> installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with
> nspluginwrapper:
>
> % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
> --
>
> So you should not run it as root.
Let me clarify: I did not run it as root until after it didn't work as a
normal user. Or at least I thought I didn't.
Now, having removed the link in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and
making sure that npwrapper.libflashplayer.so was not present in
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins, nspluginwrapper and Flash as a normal
user works.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X driver.
I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects.
Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support in
the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet.
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> Erik Norgaard wrote:
> >
> >Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem
> >against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot.
> >
> >- How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash
> >will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode
> >intervention?
> >
> >backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering
> >lost data but don't prevent the crash.
> >
> >KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it
> >makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption.
> >
> >UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but
> >that doesn't answer the question either.
> >
> >Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of
> >a crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up
> >nicely again?
You could mount all system partitions ro (using memory fs for /tmp and /var)
Setting the "noauto" option for your data partitions in fstab will
allmost guarantee the system to boot to multiuser after a crash. You can then
mount these partitions from a script in for example rc.local. If these
mounts fail, the system will then not drop to single user mode.
Ruben
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> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X driver.
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> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects.
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> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support in
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You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf.
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> firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1
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> --On August 12, 2009 8:18:55 PM -0500 ajtiM <lumiwa at gmail.com> wrote=
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>> Hi!
>> When I run
>>
>>
>> ;
>> portaudit -a
>> Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1
>> Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities.
>> Reference:
>> <http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/49e8f2ee-8147-11de-a994-0030843d3802.htm=
l>
>>
>> but when I check above site I found:
>> Affects:
>> firefox <3.*,1
>> firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1
>> firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1
>> linux-firefox <3.*,1
>> linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1
>> linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1
>> linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2
>> seamonkey >0
>> linux-seamonkey >0
>> linux-seamonkey-devel >0
>> thunderbird >0
>> linux-thunderbird >0
>>
>> Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please.
>=20
> That port should probably be removed. It's ancient.
>=20
> Use /usr/ports/www/firefox3 or /usr/ports/www/firefox3.5
It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual
browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through
firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome?
cally:/usr/home/hg$ pkg_info -R firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1
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gdesklets-0.35.4_6
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> It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual
> browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through
> firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome?
Yeah, it's really from the gecko handling. According to
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USE_GECKO= firefox3<->firefox
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> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, RW<rwmaillists@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500
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> >
> >> STABLE is what it sounds like.
> >
> > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are
> > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the
> > security branches that are intended for production use.
> >
>
> From:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html
>
> "During the lifetime of each major release, an individual branch may
> also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project
> believes that the branch is of sufficiently proven quality to be used
> by a wide range of users.
Right, sufficiently proven quality to be used by a wide range of users
for beta testing.
I'm not saying that the stable branches shouldn't be used for production
use, just that it's inadvisable to use them without a clear
understanding of the reason why.
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:05:27AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, RW<rwmaillists@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500
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> >> STABLE is what it sounds like.
> >
> > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are
> > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security
> > branches that are intended for production use.
> >
>
> From:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html
>
> "During the lifetime of each major release, an individual branch may
> also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project
> believes that the branch is of sufficiently proven quality to be used
> by a wide range of users. Branches that need further testing before
> being widely adopted are named CURRENT."
Yes, the snapshot is of a STABLE version when it is past the totally
on the edge CURRENT condition. It is pretty close to becoming
a RELEASE version. Generally only some more testing and getting
ports ready for that version separates STABLE from RELEASE.
CURRENT is where new development is happening.
In some sense CURRENT is akin to an early (pre) Alpha version, STABLE
is akin to a late Beta (almost release) version and RELEASE is the
supported release of the version. But it is not quite that. Most
companies do not put out their development source or a snapshot of
of the system as they are working on it. They hold that secret and
only release something after pretty much everything locked in before
they let anyone in the public see it.
////jerry
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Hello,
I am facing a java problem.
When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says ..
rs-unix# pwd
/usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16
rs-unix# make install clean
===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5
Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution
manually.
Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
"JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
rs-unix#
I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong.
rs-unix# uname -a
FreeBSD rs-unix.roycs.nl 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 5
09:57:02 CEST 2009
amsroy@rs-unix.roycs.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC-ROYCS i386
rs-unix#
Regards,
Roy Stuivenberg.
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Subject: Re: Lock order reversals on RELENG_8
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Peter Cornelius<pcc@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are these lock order reversals reported any reason for preoccupation and/=
or should I report elsewhere?
>
> The kernel I just built does not boot at all, so I don=B4t know whether t=
hese are a closed issue already. I=B4m off for a couple of days and will re=
try then.
>
Maybe the link reported here[1] could be useful.
Cheers.
[1]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202308.ht=
ml
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Peter.
>
> ---
> Note: Kernels are GENERIC w/o i386/i486 options,
> =A0 =A0 =A0Plus from no 4 onwards with VIMAGE and w/o SCTP option,
> =A0 =A0 =A0All fs encrypted with geli except /.
> ---
>
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #3: Sun Aug 16 10:28:08=
UTC 2009
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: root@netserv.ka.cornelius:/usr/Obj-RELENG=
_8/usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/NETSERV
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect r=
educed performance.
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz =
quality 0
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium III (1004.52-MHz 686-c=
lass CPU)
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" =A0Id =3D 0x686=
=A0Stepping =3D 6
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Features=3D0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,M=
SR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
> PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: real memory =A0=3D 1610612736 (1536 MB)
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: avail memory =3D 1559375872 (1487 MB)
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: ACPI APIC Table: <ASUS =A0 CUV4X-D >
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detect=
ed: 2 CPUs
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s)
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: =A03
> Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: =A00
> (...)
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d413f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5782000 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e782c75c,c=
08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2be90,=
c4d2f228,e782c7b8,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c5782000,c0c97=
efa,c4d2f228,c0c97b8a,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5782000,9,c0c97b8a,11=
d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c5782000,0,c0c97b8a,11d,c58d9ae=
0,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(d8d41390,da0ab800,200,=
da0ab818,e782c888,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_add(c58d9ae0,e782c8d0,818,e782=
c874,e782c878,...) at ufsdirhash_add+0x13
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c596953c,c596696c,e782c8d0,e=
782cbd0,0,...) at ufs_direnter+0x729
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode(e782cbd0,0,e782cabc,e782ca1=
8,c0bbc895,...) at
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode+0x508
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_create(e782cabc,e782cad4,0,0,e782cba4=
,...) at ufs_create+0x30
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV(c0d77740,e782cabc,e782cbd0=
,e782ca54,0,...) at VOP_CREATE_APV+0xa5
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open_cred(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,0,c51d=
2b00,...) at vn_open_cred+0x215
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,c51fadc8,c0=
c98f76,...) at vn_open+0x3b
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_openat(c5232000,ffffff9c,28412180,0,=
a02,...) at kern_openat+0x11f
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_open(c5232000,28412180,0,a01,1a4,...=
) at kern_open+0x35
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: open(c5232000,e782ccf8,c,c0c77024,c0d55f6=
c,...) at open+0x30
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: syscall(e782cd38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip=
=3D 0x28335923, esp =3D 0xbfbfe7bc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe7e8 ---
> (...)
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc6df37ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:497
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8debf40 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e3f164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78b33cc,c=
08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c76774,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c76774,c4d2be90,=
c4d2f1c0,e78b3428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c76774,c6e3f164,c0c69=
0c7,c4d2f1c0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e3f164,9,c0c7db33,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e3f164,80100,c6e3f180,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78b3538,c08c0acb,c0c7d00b,80100=
,c6e3f10c,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d77740,e78b3538,c549d0a4,=
c0d90140,c6e3f10c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e3f10c,80100,c0c7db33,823,4,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vget(c6e3f10c,80100,c549d000,50,0,...) at=
vget+0xb9
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5488508,44371d7,80000,c549d=
000,e78b3694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5488508,44371d7,80000,e78b3694=
,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c6df3754,0,c0c977fa=
,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c6df3754,1,c0c6ec41,c0c686f=
c,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c6df3754,200,0,880,c5623680,=
...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c6df3754,c6e3f10c,e78b3a1c,e=
78b3c00,d8db4e30,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78b3c28,e78b3c3c,0,0,e78b3b6c,=
...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d77740,e78b3c28,e78b3c00,=
e78b3b6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c549d000,ffffff9c,bfbfeb16,0=
,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c549d000,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,e78b3d=
2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e
> Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: mkdir(c549d000,e78b3cf8,8,c,c0d56dc0,...)=
at mkdir+0x29
> Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: syscall(e78b3d38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), =
eip =3D 0x281698e3, esp =3D 0xbfbfe86c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe938 ---
> (...)
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc901dce8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc9dfa7ac devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R=
ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78ad814,c=
08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2f1c0,=
c4d2f0f0,e78ad870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c9dfa7ac,c0c65=
29f,c4d2f0f0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c9dfa7ac,9,c0c7db33,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c9dfa7ac,80100,c9dfa7c8,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e78ad978,c08c0acb,c0c654e2,80=
100,c9dfa754,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d52ae0,e78ad978,c549d524,=
c0d90140,c9dfa754,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c9dfa754,80100,c0c7db33,823,8,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vget(c9dfa754,80100,c549d480,15e,c0c653fb=
,...) at vget+0xb9
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5ce4c00,c51ca78c,e78ada10,9=
d,c0f31578,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c51ca78c,80000,e78adc30,42c,0,=
...) at devfs_root+0x4a
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c549d480,0,c5ccea80,c5ccea80=
,bfbfdac9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: nmount(c549d480,e78adcf8,c,c,c0d58838,...=
) at nmount+0x75
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: syscall(e78add38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),=
eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfda9c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdff8 ---
> (...)
> Aug 18 13:10:29 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34=
UTC 2009
> (...)
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R=
ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,=
c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c11=
76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80=
100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,=
c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8=
,...) at vget+0xb9
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9=
d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,=
...) at devfs_root+0x4a
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180=
,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...=
) at nmount+0x75
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),=
eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 ---
> (...)
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R=
ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,=
c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c11=
76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80=
100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,=
c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8=
,...) at vget+0xb9
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9=
d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,=
...) at devfs_root+0x4a
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180=
,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...=
) at nmount+0x75
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),=
eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 ---
> (...)
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d299f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc518e200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7894a74,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1bfc8,=
c4d1f1c0,e7894ad0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c518e200,c0c42=
b70,c4d1f1c0,c0c42800,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c518e200,9,c0c42800,11=
d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c518e200,0,c0c42800,11d,d9c2b36=
c,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(0,e,c51b3000,d8d29990,=
d9c2b36c,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_remove(c57050e8,d9c2b36c,36c,e=
7894b60,e7894b5c,...) at ufsdirhash_remove+0x14
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_dirremove(c56f410c,c56d8a6c,500800c,0=
,c56f410c,...) at ufs_dirremove+0xe5
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove(e7894c34,0,0,0,c571f53c,...) a=
t
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove+0x6e
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV(c0d1f760,e7894c34,c571f53c=
,e7894c0c,80f5200,...) at
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV+0xa5
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlinkat(c570eb40,ffffff9c,80f5200,0=
,e7894c80,...) at kern_unlinkat+0x181
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlink(c570eb40,80f5200,0,e7894d2c,c=
0b5b453,...) at kern_unlink+0x27
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: unlink(c570eb40,e7894cf8,4,c0c3d0bc,c0d00=
b78,...) at unlink+0x22
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: syscall(e7894d38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: --- syscall (10, FreeBSD ELF32, unlink), =
eip =3D 0x283936cf, esp =3D 0xbfbfc70c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfc738 ---
> (...)
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc5ab0164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8e8e8a0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S=
rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e8a6a0 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e78fd3cc,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22dff,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22dff,c4d1bfc8,=
c4d1f158,e78fd428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22dff,c6e8a6a0,c0c15=
598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e8a6a0,9,c0c2a1f8,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e8a6a0,80100,c6e8a6bc,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78fd538,c08be04b,c0c296d0,80100=
,c6e8a648,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e78fd538,c5a36764,=
c0d38160,c6e8a648,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e8a648,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,4,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vget(c6e8a648,80100,c5a366c0,50,0,...) at=
vget+0xb9
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5459284,9701aa,80000,c5a366=
c0,e78fd694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5459284,9701aa,80000,e78fd694,=
1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c5ab010c,0,c0c42470=
,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c5ab010c,1,c0c1b267,c0c14bc=
d,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c5ab010c,200,0,880,c56b3100,=
...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c5ab010c,c6e8a648,e78fda1c,e=
78fdc00,d8f0c300,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78fdc28,e78fdc3c,0,0,e78fdb6c,=
...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d1f760,e78fdc28,e78fdc00,=
e78fdb6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c5a366c0,ffffff9c,bfbfe9fd,0=
,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c5a366c0,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,e78fdd=
2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: mkdir(c5a366c0,e78fdcf8,8,c0c23750,c0d019=
40,...) at mkdir+0x29
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: syscall(e78fdd38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), =
eip =3D 0x281698e3, esp =3D 0xbfbfe78c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe858 ---
> (...)
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc0d70d8c allprison (allprison) @ /u=
sr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:2449
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561ebdc ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2188
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e5295ab4,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d18138,=
c4d1f158,e5295b10,...) at
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561ebdc,c0c15=
598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561ebdc,9,c0c2a1f8,88=
c,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561ebdc,80100,c561ebf8,0,=
0,...) at
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e5295c20,c4d18138,c0c2a1f8,80100=
,c561eb84,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e5295c20,c086d663,=
c0d38160,c561eb84,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561eb84,80100,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: vrele(c561eb84,c0c182d5,998,991,c0d05320,=
...) at vrele+0x137
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_deref(e5295cd4,c08b76bb,c4f48000,1=
,c0c21720,...) at prison_deref+0x4c8
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_complete(c4f48000,1,c0c21720,54,c4=
ea515c,...) at prison_complete+0x10
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_run(c4ea5140,c4ea515c,0,c0c1260=
e,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_thread_loop(c0d84f68,e5295d38,c=
0c17e22,33e,c0d70440,...) at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x68
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_exit(c08b77b0,c0d84f68,e5295d38) at =
fork_exit+0xb8
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: --- trap 0, eip =3D 0, esp =3D 0xe5295d70=
, ebp =3D 0 ---
> (...)
> (... failing to boot into recently-built kernel ...)
> (...)
> Aug 20 11:07:44 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34=
UTC 2009
> (...)
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: lock order reversal:
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc56177ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN=
G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5617594 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R=
ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e77f5814,c=
08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,=
c4d1f088,e77f5870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c5617594,c0c11=
76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5617594,9,c0c2a1f8,82=
3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c5617594,80100,c56175b0,0,=
0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e77f5978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80=
100,c561753c,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e77f5978,c51d99a4,=
c0d38160,c561753c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561753c,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..=
.) at _vn_lock+0x5e
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vget(c561753c,80100,c51d9900,15e,c0c118c8=
,...) at vget+0xb9
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5225680,c545a000,e77f5a10,9=
d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c545a000,80000,e77f5c30,42c,0,=
...) at devfs_root+0x4a
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c51d9900,0,c55f0480,c55f0480=
,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: nmount(c51d9900,e77f5cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...=
) at nmount+0x75
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: syscall(e77f5d38) at syscall+0x2a3
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x=
20
> Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),=
eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 ---
> (...)
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> Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
> "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
> time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
> I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
> So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong.
1.3.18 =3D! 1.3.15
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich <FreeBSD@insightbb.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X
>> driver.
>>
>> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects.
>>
>> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support
>> in
>> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet.
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> You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf.
>
> --
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>
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AIGLX" "True"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "dbe"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "dri2"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 340 270 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
Option "DPMS"
Option "LeftOf" "Monitor0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "BusType" # [<str>]
#Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPusecTimeout" # <i>
#Option "AGPMode" # <i>
#Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
#Option "AGPSize" # <i>
#Option "GARTSize" # <i>
#Option "RingSize" # <i>
#Option "BufferSize" # <i>
#Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>]
#Option "FBTexPercent" # <i>
#Option "DepthBits" # <i>
#Option "PCIAPERSize" # <i>
#Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>]
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>]
#Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
#Option "ForceMinDotClock" # <freq>
#Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # <i>
#Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # <i>
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Roy Stuivenberg wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am facing a java problem.
>
> When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says ..
>
> rs-unix# pwd
> /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16
> rs-unix# make install clean
> ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5
>
> Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution
> manually.
>
> Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
> "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
> time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
>
> Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> rs-unix#
>
> I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>
> So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong.
>
>
well
tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip
isn't
tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:45:07 +0200
Roy Stuivenberg <roys1012@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tnx Andreas,
>=20
> and where to get this version?
> Can't find it .. and also this is not like FreeBSD .. makes me think of
> Linux dependencie problems?
Google: tzupdater-1.3.15
->
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2009-June/008118.html
->
https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en=
_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=3Dtzupdater-1.3.15-oth-JPR@CDS=
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Why is it not like Freebsd? The only problem here is that you cannot downlo=
ad
older versions from Suns website more easily. Any way, that should do it.
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Roy Stuivenberg <roys1012@gmail.com> writes:
Hi,
> rs-unix# make install clean
> ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5
>
> Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution
> manually.
>
> Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
> "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
> time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
>
> Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> rs-unix#
>
> I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip and tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip are not the
same files.
Get the port required version, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip, or update
your ports tree.
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>>>
>>> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects.
>>>
>>> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support
>>> in
>>> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet.
>>
>> You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf.
>>
[...]
> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option "AIGLX" "True"
> EndSection
[...]
> Section "Extensions"
> Option "Composite" "Enable"
> EndSection
I don't have either of those in my radeon xorg.conf, but composite
effects in Xfce like window transparency work.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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> Hello,
>
> I am facing a java problem.
>
> When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says ..
>
> rs-unix# pwd
> /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16
> rs-unix# make install clean
> ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5
>
> Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution
> manually.
>
> Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
> "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
> time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
>
> Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> rs-unix#
>
> I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>
> So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong.
Unless you care about the time zone updater, just 'make config' and turn
it off.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:30:57PM +0200, Roy Stuivenberg wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I am facing a java problem.
>=20
> When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says ..
>=20
> rs-unix# pwd
> /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16
> rs-unix# make install clean
> =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> =3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5
>=20
> Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution
> manually.
>=20
> Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
> in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for
> "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the
> time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip.
>=20
> Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>=20
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16.
> rs-unix#=20
>=20
> I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles.
>=20
> So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong.
>=20
>=20
> rs-unix# uname -a
> FreeBSD rs-unix.roycs.nl 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 5
> 09:57:02 CEST 2009
> amsroy@rs-unix.roycs.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC-ROYCS i386
> rs-unix#=20
>=20
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Roy Stuivenberg.
How about downloading the package from the FreeBSD Foundation.
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml
Trust me, it is a lot faster to download and install a binary package than
go the long compile process.
Josef
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Hi,
> My portstree is up to date, and when I follow the link on Sun website
> this is the version I get?
Seems the port lags behind Sun's site.
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I've a 10 disk server that I am using as a file server. I split the
disks up unto 3 partitions, with a being part of a gmirror for /, b
being part of a gmirror for swap, and d being part of the zfs pool.
I've got 6 SATA headers on my MB, and 4 from a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310
controller which I'm just using as an SATA controller (no RAID
functionality).
I recently added an Hitachi 1TB drive to the RocketRAID controller, but
I'm not seeing FreeBSD assign it a device node. FreeBSD recognizes the
drive insertion, but doesn't give it a device node. All the drives are
SATA hot-swap, so I connected the drive to a header off the MB and
FreeBSD happily gave it a device node. Additionally, I already have a
few of these drives in the array, but they're all connected to headers
on the MB. This is the first attempt at adding one to the RocketRAID
controller. The controller currently has 3 other disks in it that are
500GB, and FreeBSD has had no problems with them. The RocketRAID
controller's BIOS recognizes the disk as well, so it doesn't seem the
card is incapable of handling disks that large. I've even tried
rebooting the system after the drive has been connected, but no luck.
Here's the respective info from the boot sequence as it pertains to the
RocketRAID and the drives attached to it:
hptrr: start channel [0,0]
hptrr: start channel [0,1]
hptrr: start channel [0,2]
hptrr: start channel [0,3]
hptrr: [0 0] Start channel soft reset.
hptrr: [0 1] Start channel soft reset.
hptrr: [0 2] Start channel soft reset.
hptrr: [0 3] Start channel soft reset.
hptrr: channel [0,0] started successfully
hptrr: channel [0,1] started successfully
hptrr: channel [0,2] started successfully
hptrr: channel [0,3] started successfully
hptrr0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
hptrr0: [ITHREAD]
...
da0 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <HPT DISK 0_0 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da1 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <HPT DISK 0_1 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da2: <HPT DISK 0_2 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
...
The only difference I've found is that in the RocketRAID BIOS, the 3
500GB drives are recognized with a Legacy Status, whereas the 1TB is
recognized as New Status. Not sure what that means or how to change it.
The sizes are reported correctly in the RocketRAID BIOS. I believe
there is a BIOS update available for the card, but I wouldn't think it
would be necessary since the card's BIOS seems to recognize the card
just fine.
Any suggestions/help?
Rob
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> What can I do to get the history to remain in memory across a=20
> reboot? Changing the capicity of set history to greater than 100=20
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How about:
shutdown -r +1
logout
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote:
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>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich <FreeBSD@insightbb.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X
>>>> driver.
>>>>
>>>> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support
>>>> in
>>>> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf.
>>>
>>>
> [...]
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>> Option "AIGLX" "True"
>> EndSection
>>
>
> [...]
>
> Section "Extensions"
>> Option "Composite" "Enable"
>> EndSection
>>
>
> I don't have either of those in my radeon xorg.conf, but composite effects
> in Xfce like window transparency work.
This is also true for me under 7.2(untested elsewhere).
>
>
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
>
I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there.
compiz* may have different requirements as well.
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Hello,
I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via
devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough:
attach 0 {
device-name "ugen[0-9]+";
match "vendor" "0x0123";
match "product" "0x3210";
match "sernum" "1234567890";
action "devfs rule -s 10 add 100 path $device-name* user joe; \
devfs rule -s 10 add 200 path usb[0-9] user joe; \
devfs rule -s 10 applyset";
};
Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb
files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3.
How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera?
And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they?
Tried with:
usb_number=`sysctl dev.ugen.0.%location | cut -d '=' -f 2` but it turns
out that it's not what I'm looking for because sometimes when it returns
"2" then I still need write access to just /dev/usb3.
Any ideas please?
Michal
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Josef Grosch <jgrosch@MooseRiver.com> writes:
Hi,
> Trust me, it is a lot faster to download and install a binary package than
> go the long compile process.
Diablo-j(re|dk) ports install binary packages...
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Hi all,
First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this
question. I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and
here. If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please
let me know and I'll post there instead.
I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the
suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. It is
mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior.
I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the
fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new
characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic.
The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I
hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I
was doing in X. Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before
hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. Does anyone have any
suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? The details of
my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information
would be helpful.
> uname -a
FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0:
Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009
root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
> cat /boot/loader.conf
# Disable boot menu
beastie_disable="YES"
autoboot_delay=-1
# Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements
sem_load="YES"
# Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display.
hw.acpi.reset_video=1
# Needed so mouse will work on resume
hint.psm.0.flags="0x3000"
# Possibly needed for successful resume
hint.apic.0.disabled=1
# Needed for sound
snd_ich_load="YES"
# Needed for wireless (iwi)
if_iwi_load="YES"
wlan_load="YES"
firmware_load="YES"
iwi_bss_load="YES"
iwi_ibss_load="YES"
iwi_monitor_load="YES"
legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1
# Needed for 3d graphics acceleration
agp_load="YES"
# Needed for cdrecord to work
atapicam_load="YES"
# See 'man acpi_ibm'
acpi_ibm_load="YES"
> cat /etc/rc.conf
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009
# Created: Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# Set by sysinstall
hostname="sussman.snikeris.com"
#ifconfig_em0="DHCP"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
# Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL
hald_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"
keyrate="fast"
keybell="off"
> cat /etc/sysctl.conf
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $
#
# This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents piped thru
# ``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. ``man 5 sysctl.conf'' for details.
#
# Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about processes that
# are being run under another UID.
#security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
hw.acpi.standby_state=S0
hw.acpi.suspend_state=S3
hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=S3
vfs.usermount=1
hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3
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>How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera?
If you are using the old USB stack, use usbdevs(8). If you are using
the new USB stack from less than 5 months ago, then use usbconfig(8):
usbdevs -v
or
usbconfig dump_device_desc (or other options visible with usbconfig -h)
>And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they?
usbus unit number, usb device index
Regards,
b.
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option "AIGLX" "True"
> EndSection
>
>
> [...]
>
> Section "Extensions"
> Option "Composite" "Enable"
> EndSection
>
> I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there. compiz* may have different requirements as well.
Looking at my Xorg.0.log, they're on by default... Aha. AIGLX is a
build option for xorg-server. Can't find where the composite extension
came from, but I bet it's the same deal.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote:
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>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Section "ServerFlags"
>> Option "AIGLX" "True"
>> EndSection
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Section "Extensions"
>> Option "Composite" "Enable"
>> EndSection
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>> I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there.
>> compiz* may have different requirements as well.
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> Looking at my Xorg.0.log, they're on by default... Aha. AIGLX is a build
> option for xorg-server. Can't find where the composite extension came from,
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> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Now I looked further:
http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
According that the composite extension is now enabled by default as well so
I have some carry-over from old config file.
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> Hello,
>
> I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via
> devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough:
> ...
> Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb
> files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3.
>
> How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my
> camera? And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they?
I'm not very familiar with devfs+devd, but can you not use glabel to
give the camera a persistent name.
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:54:37PM +0000, Michal wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via=20
> devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough:
>=20
> attach 0 {
> device-name "ugen[0-9]+";
> match "vendor" "0x0123";
> match "product" "0x3210";
> match "sernum" "1234567890";
> action "devfs rule -s 10 add 100 path $device-name* user joe; \
> devfs rule -s 10 add 200 path usb[0-9] user joe; \
> devfs rule -s 10 applyset";
> };
>=20
> Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb=20
> files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3.
>=20
> How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera?
> And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they?
> Tried with:
> usb_number=3D`sysctl dev.ugen.0.%location | cut -d '=3D' -f 2` but it tur=
ns=20
> out that it's not what I'm looking for because sometimes when it returns=
=20
> "2" then I still need write access to just /dev/usb3.
>=20
> Any ideas please?
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to achieve here. But here is my
=A40,02:
Create a group called 'usb'. Make every user that you want to be able to use
usb devices a member of this group. Next, add the following rules to your
active ruleset in /etc/devfs.rules:
add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb
add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb
add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group usb
add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb
add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb
If you are using 8-BETA, use 'usb/*' instead of 'usb*'.
This gives the members of the usb group write acces to the relevant devices
for using USB drives, cameras, scanners etc. You might want to add other usb
device nodes (e.g. uhid) if you use those.
Roland
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> Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces
> (wired em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL
> wireless box which comes with default settings so that I have to start
> with connecting my laptop via em0.
> em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface
> and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this
> point I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection
> via wireless box.
> I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the
> cable. I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to:
> ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO"
> ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP"
> Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via
> DHCP and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up).
If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off
to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will
use the cable again. You would need:
cloned_interfaces="lagg0"
ifconfig_em0="UP"
ifconfig_ath0="ether 00:xx:xx:xx WPA" # set to MAC address of em0
ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport em0 laggport ath0 DHCP"
--
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Roland Smith wrote:
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to achieve here. But here is my
> €0,02:
>
> Create a group called 'usb'. Make every user that you want to be able to use
> usb devices a member of this group. Next, add the following rules to your
> active ruleset in /etc/devfs.rules:
>
> add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb
> add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb
> add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group usb
> add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb
> add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb
>
And that is pretty much what I'm doing with two differences:
1. I'm using user name instead of designated group.
2. Following principle of least privilege I don't want to give him
(which just happens to be myself) rights to anything other than my
digital camera. Only this specific camera should trigger changes in
ownership/rights of camera-related device nodes.
I know it looks a bit anal at first glance but it is not ;)
Michal
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> I'm not very familiar with devfs+devd, but can you not use glabel to
> give the camera a persistent name.
I should have mentioned that this camera works only in PTP mode so I
cannot access it as a disk device.
At first I thought that it's PITA but now I think it's even better
because I don't have to worry about mounting/unmounting anymore. Just
plug and unplug the lead whenever I want.
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b. f. wrote:
>> How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera?
>
>
> If you are using the old USB stack, use usbdevs(8). If you are using
> the new USB stack from less than 5 months ago, then use usbconfig(8):
>
> usbdevs -v
>
Yes, I should have mentioned beforehand that it's 7.2 Release.
Your solution with usbdevs gives me what I was looking for (after my
clumsy grep|tail|sed|cut manipulation), thank you very much for your help.
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Dear Chris,
Thanks for your reply. I've tried the absolute path as well, but no
success :-(. Any other suggestions?
Kind regards,
Roald
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> 2009/8/17 Roald de Vries <rdv@roalddevries.nl>
> Dear all,
>
> I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to
> rc.conf. During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do:
> "sshfs remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse
> device: No such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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> try an explicit path as well rather than ~
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On Tuesday 18 August 2009 12:11:10 Tim Judd wrote:
> On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell <archon@silvertree.org> wrote:
> > I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read
> > only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If
> > I set /etc/fstab to:
> >
> > /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro
> > 0 0
>
> On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:
>
> mount -uw /
> to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're
> trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.
I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and on the same
node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the system.
If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, though I
suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine such a bug
has slipped into vfs/ufs.
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Mel Flynn wrote:
> If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off
> to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will
> use the cable again. You would need:
In my case usually it's some testing environment so I needed more of a
quick kludge. But thats very interesting idea for my home network, I'll
definitely have to check it out, thanks!
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Hello
Any idea if is possible to install (and work) the iwn driver in FreeBSD
7.2 ?
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Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
ordered universe!
But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
"undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
with Error code 1.
Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
rationality to this world.
Thanks for any ideas...
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08/20/2009 11:59 PM
Hello Duncan Hutty,
I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list
and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable
about freebsd.
I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and
have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver
at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a
freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the
system, and I'd like to.
My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that
CPU doesn't support long mode
Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit
system, but I don't think that's the case :
jfl@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu
01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch
Clock: 1000 MHz
BogoMips: 2009.02
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch
Clock: 1000 MHz
BogoMips: 2009.02
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more.
Have you seen or heard of this before?
Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself.
Thanks for any help you might be able to give.
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John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand
08/15/2009 10:38 PM
My problem seems to be that
CPU doesn't support long mode
Is that it? Can't get there from here?
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John Francis Lee
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Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand
08/15/2009 10:20 PM
Hi,
I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought
I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox
installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK
prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything
with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI
disabled but that seems not to make any difference.
Have you heard of this problem before?
Any help you might give appreciated.
Thanks.
I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter
as well.
--
John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
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John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand
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On Tuesday 18 August 2009 07:00:08 Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Aug 18), Artis Caune said:
> > Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf?
> > I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for
> > example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries:
>
> Remember that every startup script sources rc.conf, sometimes very early or
> late in the startup/shutdown sequence, so just make sure you don't echo
> anything to stdout/stderr or try to run commands that might be on
> filesystems that aren't mounted yet, and you should be fine.
In this particular example, you're fine. In general, you should also take care
that /etc/defaults/rc.conf is read before /etc/rc.conf and may set values for
variables you have not specified. Defaults can also change between releases,
so one should inspect /etc/defaults/rc.conf during mergemaster stage with a
microscope.
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An update on the problems of the boot sector disks.
So far, I have not found any errors on the guilty disks from one
computer... the Seagate Tools for checking their (& other) disks show no
errors on the disks themselves. I haven't finished with them all, yet as
I am trying to set up a couple of FBSD 7.2 servers for various functions
and will have a better idea when thatis done. :-)
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJ<af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
> ordered universe!
> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
> with Error code 1.
>
> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
> rationality to this world.
> Thanks for any ideas...
Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with
something that is giving you soooooo much trouble?
There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate
that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week
. . . but . . .
>From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential
files. Rationality may dictate you moving on.
The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is
to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the
pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What
happened to the "faulty hardware" idea?
I dunno . . . good luck!
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On Thursday 20 August 2009 15:00:48 Scott Schappell wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2009, at 15:42:05, Mel Flynn wrote:
> > I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and
> > on the same
> > node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the
> > system.
> >
> > If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump,
> > though I
> > suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine
> > such a bug
> > has slipped into vfs/ufs.
> > --
> > Mel
>
> Since using the mount -r syntax, it hasn't crashed once. How does one
> obtain a crash dump? I'll be happy to force the system to hork and
> send a crash log.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
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I'm all over this!
Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
ready when you need it.
Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first
thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
like this:
<begin cvsupfile>
*default host=<IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR>
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
*default compress
src-all
src-contrib
ports-all tag=.
</end cvsupfile>
Note that the <begin> and </end> tags are put in the email for clarity,
but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is
overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.
Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust
to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed.
So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:
csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile
Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you
are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where
you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
nearly there!)
Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.
And you still might get those :)
So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...
Good Luck!
lane
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
> ordered universe!
> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
> with Error code 1.
>
> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
> rationality to this world.
> Thanks for any ideas...
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I'm running freebsd 7.2p3 and I believe I started seeing the following
messages after the p3 patch.
/etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number
/etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset
This is in /etc/rc.conf, but I don't know what put it there:
devfs_system_ruleset="localrules"
The man page for devfs mentions name, not number.
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Frank Shute wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand<steve@ibctech.ca> wrote:
>>> Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness.
>>>
>>> I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and
>>> experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I
>>> type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all
>>> of my software doesn't work like vi does :)
>>>
>>> Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list
>>> subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise
>>> and refuse to belong to web forums.
>>>
>>> Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to
>>> bring it up OT here on my favourite list?
>>>
>> Hi, Steve
>>
>> Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not.
>>
>> And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
>
> I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list
> AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if
> that was necessary to sign up).
Thanks all,
I'll check out how to configure my mailer with Google Groups for this list.
> I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being
> subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar
> posts there occasionally.
Nice to know that long-term users parade around in the list. It then, is
much like this one, and a few others that I am on.
Before I foray into configuring my email program to work with Google
Groups, I have one more (simple, I think) question regarding Vim. (I
couldn't come up with the proper Gooliage):
I'd like to create a keyboard map so instead of doing:
- _dd (I believe the underscore is referred to as 'blackhole')
I can do:
- CTRL-whatever
I have a lot of operations that consist of this:
- p
- j
- $
- i
- <CR>
- ^[
- 3j
- i
- <TAB><CR>
- ^[
- 3dd
(not necessarily in that order)...and want an easier way to to do both
'dd' and 'd$' without wrecking the clipboard which I have saved a yank to.
fwiw, the box I'm doing this work on is a jail (with both v4 and v6!) under:
:! uname -a
[No write since last change]
FreeBSD name.eagle.ca 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1
08:49:13 UTC 2009
root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
Cheers,
Steve
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Every time I restart X windows, my superkaramba themes double.
I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0
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Michal wrote:
>Mel Flynn wrote:
>> If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off
>> to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will
>> use the cable again. You would need:
>In my case usually it's some testing environment so I needed more of a
>quick kludge. But thats very interesting idea for my home network, I'll
>definitely have to check it out, thanks!
And of course, you can also automate this via devd.conf(5), by
instructing the system to run the rc.d scripts or other
commands/scripts if one of your NICs is attached/detached, or upon
other conditions. There are related examples in the devd.conf(5)
manpage and the default /etc/devd.conf
b.
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>Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
>to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
This is supposed to be automated, but of course things can sometimes
go wrong, either through hardware problems, user-error, or an error in
Ports.
>I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
>cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
>to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
>by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
>usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
>ordered universe!
>But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
>minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
>a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
>a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
>I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
>and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
>those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
>So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
>installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
>mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
>compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
>ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
>"undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
>with Error code 1.
It sounds like a missing header, but you need to tell us more before
we can attempt to figure out why. Don't spend a lot of time and
energy paraphrasing what happened, but rather include the end of a
build transcript with your message, beginning a few lines above where
the first error appeared. You can cut-and-paste, or use script1) to
capture the output, or whatever -- but we need to see the _exact_
output. Also include a list of the ports that you have installed now,
and the OPTIONS settings, if any, of the port and the ports that it
depends upon. Also check to see when you are installing a new port
that:
1) you are using a up-to-date ports tree and INDEX file (or at least a
snapshot that has no known errors), and an up-to-date portsdb and
pkgdb if you are using portupgrade;
2) all of your currently installed ports are up-to-date (or at least
consistent with your ports tree);
3) you are starting with clean work directories for the port that you
want to build and install, and all ports that will also need to be
build and installed as missing dependencies;
4) your installed ports and base system have not been corrupted;
5) you have no known hardware problems, like bad memory or a
malfunctioning hard drive.
And you know, you don't have to build from source -- you could just
download and install prebuilt binary packages, either from FreeBSD
Ports or some other packaging system...
b.
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Lane Holcombe wrote:
>Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
>
>portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
>
>You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
>have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
>whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
>ready when you need it.
It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and
ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a
stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who
is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository.
Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook
ought to be enough for most people.
b.
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Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and
no dmesg.boot
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On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following
umount /backup
mount -o rw /backup
[root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
21122+0 records in
21121+0 records out
21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
[root@arthur ~]#
You can see by that snippet it barfed at 21627094 bytes (21 megabytes,
ish). /backup has 100s of GiB free.
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a 9.7G 453M 8.5G 5% /
devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
/dev/ad0s1d 15G 481M 13G 4% /var
/dev/ad0s1e 15G 3.1G 10G 23% /usr
/dev/ad0s1f 15G 1.4G 12G 10% /usr/local
/dev/ad0s1g 216G 3.5G 195G 2% /home
/dev/ad2s1d 226G 32G 176G 15% /backup
I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified
it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have
dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well.
Could this have anything to do with how I added the drive? I followed
the handbook instructions but maybe I messed it up.
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On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote:
> On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
>>
>
> OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following
>
> umount /backup
> mount -o rw /backup
> [root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
> dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
> 21122+0 records in
> 21121+0 records out
> 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
> [root@arthur ~]#
>
As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB,
using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw.
This is puzzling.
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Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instead
of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't
remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I
could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way I
can undo this blunder?
Stew
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Stew Houston<stewhouston@gmail.com> wrote=
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> Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instea=
d
> of copying it. =A0Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't
> remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) =A0I rebooted, hoping=
I
> could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. =A0Is there a wa=
y I
> can undo this blunder?
>
When entering single user mode, you should be prompted with an option
to select a shell. You should be able to use /bin/csh. Worst case,
you can use /rescue/csh.
--=20
Glen Barber
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris <joe@snikeris.com> wrote:
> First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this
> question. I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and
> here. If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please
> let me know and I'll post there instead.
I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi
but that's usually more about development than usage. You might try
searching the archives of either for mention of the X40.
> I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the
> suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. It is
> mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior.
> I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the
> fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new
> characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic.
>
> The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I
> hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I
> was doing in X. Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before
> hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. Does anyone have any
> suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? The details of
> my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information
> would be helpful.
My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 to suspend/resume
cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI)
> > uname -a
> FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0:
> Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009
> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
>
> > cat /boot/loader.conf
> # Disable boot menu
> beastie_disable="YES"
> autoboot_delay=-1
>
> # Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements
> sem_load="YES"
>
> # Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display.
> hw.acpi.reset_video=1
> # Needed so mouse will work on resume
> hint.psm.0.flags="0x3000"
>
> # Possibly needed for successful resume
> hint.apic.0.disabled=1
That might be one to try either way, with other combinations.
> # Needed for sound
> snd_ich_load="YES"
>
> # Needed for wireless (iwi)
> if_iwi_load="YES"
> wlan_load="YES"
> firmware_load="YES"
> iwi_bss_load="YES"
> iwi_ibss_load="YES"
> iwi_monitor_load="YES"
> legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1
>
> # Needed for 3d graphics acceleration
> agp_load="YES"
>
> # Needed for cdrecord to work
> atapicam_load="YES"
>
> # See 'man acpi_ibm'
> acpi_ibm_load="YES"
I've found that vesa_load="YES" helps on my T23 especially if suspending
from a VT rather than in X, referring to your 'console comes up blank.'
Something to try anyway, and I don't think it ever hurts.
> > cat /etc/rc.conf
> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009
> # Created: Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009
> # Enable network daemons for user convenience.
> # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
>
> # Set by sysinstall
> hostname="sussman.snikeris.com"
> #ifconfig_em0="DHCP"
> linux_enable="YES"
> moused_enable="YES"
>
> # Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL
> hald_enable="YES"
> dbus_enable="YES"
>
> keyrate="fast"
> keybell="off"
>
> > cat /etc/sysctl.conf
> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $
> #
> # This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents piped thru
> # ``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. ``man 5 sysctl.conf'' for details.
> #
>
> # Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about processes that
> # are being run under another UID.
> #security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
>
> hw.acpi.standby_state=S0
> hw.acpi.suspend_state=S3
> hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=S3
> vfs.usermount=1
> hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3
If hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 is no help, I'd try -mobile ..
cheers, Ian
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:33:19PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>
>
[snip]
>
> >>
> >> And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
> >
> > I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list
> > AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if
> > that was necessary to sign up).
>
> Thanks all,
>
> I'll check out how to configure my mailer with Google Groups for this list.
There should be little in the way of configuration required for that
list, they just send out plain email and you can post in the same
format.
>
> > I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being
> > subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar
> > posts there occasionally.
>
> Nice to know that long-term users parade around in the list. It then, is
> much like this one, and a few others that I am on.
>
> Before I foray into configuring my email program to work with Google
> Groups, I have one more (simple, I think) question regarding Vim. (I
> couldn't come up with the proper Gooliage):
>
> I'd like to create a keyboard map so instead of doing:
>
> - _dd (I believe the underscore is referred to as 'blackhole')
>
> I can do:
>
> - CTRL-whatever
>
> I have a lot of operations that consist of this:
>
> - p
> - j
> - $
> - i
> - <CR>
> - ^[
> - 3j
> - i
> - <TAB><CR>
> - ^[
> - 3dd
>
> (not necessarily in that order)...and want an easier way to to do both
> 'dd' and 'd$' without wrecking the clipboard which I have saved a yank to.
What you refer to as a clipboard is termed a register in vim and IIRC
you have the use of 26 (a-z). You can yank or delete to a register and
then dd wont overwrite it. Use plain dd and yy for quick and dirty.
See:
:help yank
You can then recall the text from that register with the "put"
command.
See:
:help p
As with all simple vim commands you can precede them with a number so
to yank 3 lines and save them in register a:
3"ayy
and then to put them somewhere:
"ap
Likewise, you can delete 3 lines & place them in a named register:
3"add
I hope the above short demo gives you a brief outline on how to work
with registers but the vim handbook has got far more info. I guess
it's difficult for a new vim user who lacks the vim terminology to
look for stuff.
Also look into using macros if you find you are using the same
commands repetitively.
Have a look at marks if you're not using them already:
:help m
>
> fwiw, the box I'm doing this work on is a jail (with both v4 and v6!) under:
>
> :! uname -a
>
> [No write since last change]
>
> FreeBSD name.eagle.ca 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1
> 08:49:13 UTC 2009
> root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
>
I'm currently in Darwin, Australia and ssh'ing back to the UK to
compose this email using vim on the remote end. Latency is a bit so so
but it's doable with vim :)
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
Regards,
--
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> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that
>
> CPU doesn't support long mode
Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have
encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea
what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here:
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420
One notable quote is:
...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will
not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit
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On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:40:27 Scott Schappell wrote:
> On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote:
> > On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:
> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ker
> >>neldebug.html
> >
> > OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following
> >
> > umount /backup
> > mount -o rw /backup
> > [root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
> > dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
> > 21122+0 records in
> > 21121+0 records out
> > 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
> > [root@arthur ~]#
>
> As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB,
> using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw.
>
> This is puzzling.
I agree. These errors make no sense to me, which leads me to drive cable or
physical memory problems, perhaps filesystem corruption. Since you have plenty
of space on /home, is it possible for you to move whatever's on /backup to
/home, then newfs /backup? Of course you could try fsck -y /backup in single
user, but with these weird errors, I trust the filesystem on that disk as far
as I can throw it.
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On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:44:12 Stew Houston wrote:
> Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instead
> of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't
> remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I
> could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way I
> can undo this blunder?
/rescue/mv /path/to/jail/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec/
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Hi, list
I'm trying to isolate a bug relating to exiting X and console drivers.
Before I begin, I have to mention that this undesired behavior is not
specific to FreeBSD -- I've experienced this with OpenSolaris and
(K)(X)ubuntu on the machine in question, which is where I am beginning
to really hit a wall.
A short synopsis of the problem is: "anything that tries to query /
manipulate Xorg causes the console to flash when exiting X, as if the
console refresh rate or resolution was drastically incorrect."
The laptop [1] I recently purchased has a 16" screen at 1366x768
resolution. (dmesg output listing the graphics information is below.)
I do not use gdm, xdm, or kdm, so I 'startx' to get x11-wm/fluxbox
running. My $HOME/.xinitrc is minimal, using xset to disable the
xterm bell, and starting sysutils/conky.
The only common factor between the three OSes I've seen this behavior
is xscreensaver or xrandr. After thinking it was specific to
xscreensaver, I disabled it, and wanted to check the refresh rate -
which is how I found xrandr causes it as well.
Any thoughts on how to isolate the cause of this would be appreciated,
because the flickering and flashing experienced is most probably bad
for the LCD. Thanks in advance.
%dmesg | grep vga
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x5110-0x5117 mem
0xd0000000-0xd03fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on
pci0
agp0: <Intel GM45 SVGA controller> on vgapci0
vgapci1: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xd3500000-0xd35fffff at device
2.1 on pci0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
drm0: <Mobile Intel\M-B\M-. GM45 Express Chipset> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
[1] - http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/satellite/L500/L505-S6946
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On Monday 17 August 2009 04:14:18 Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Manish Jain wrote:
> > You are right. Syntax highlighting only works well with X. On the
> > console, to the best of knowledge, there is no way to change the colours
> > through vim's rc files.
>
> Syntax colour changing does work via .vimrc on the console. The
> constructs are named differently: ctermfg, cterm etc.
>
> The default however uses bright yellow and very light blue for many
> things, which doesn't appear well on my white console.
If you have a set bg=dark line in .vimrc, remove it. or explicitly set
bg=light.
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I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in
IPv6. However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure
that its not a misunderstanding on my part.
The network setup. A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to
another host (C) on a separate network. When all are up and running,
A can ping6 to C and gets a response. If you power off C and then do
the ping again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable
datagram received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to
the user. A ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6
response. Its my understanding that it should and the ping6 code
seems to imply that also. Is this a bug?
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:08:00PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3 and I believe I started seeing the following=20
> messages after the p3 patch.
>=20
> /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number
> /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset
>=20
> This is in /etc/rc.conf, but I don't know what put it there:
> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules"
>=20
> The man page for devfs mentions name, not number.
See the manual page for devfs.rules: 'man devfs.rules'.
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Hi!
> Try disabling AHCI. I had to do that on an Intel board.
> Hope it does help. :-)
Well, it doesn't. The problem is that it doesn't find the DVD device
(which is IDE). But I figured out that I can boot from USB just fine.
The image of 8.0 BETA 2 works fine (I can install and boot that
installation with AHCI enabled), but I'd prefer to use 7.2.
Unfortunately there is no image available and the tutorials to create
one all require FreeBSD.
I found a PC-BSD image and will try this one now.
Thanks a lot,
O.Leidinger
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:02:28AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> >
> > So you should not run it as root.
>
> Let me clarify: I did not run it as root until after it didn't work as a
> normal user. Or at least I thought I didn't.
>
> Now, having removed the link in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and
> making sure that npwrapper.libflashplayer.so was not present in
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins, nspluginwrapper and Flash as a normal
> user works.
>
All these Firefox plugins are a big nightmare cause so many parameters
can prevent them to work. It's a pain :(
But if you find a reliable reason, something that we can repeat, that
prevented the detection of the plugin, please mail me. I'm interested
in updating the docs on this point.
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:29:26AM +0000, b. f. typed:
> Lane Holcombe wrote:
>
> >Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
> >
> >portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
> >
> >You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
> >have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
> >whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
> >ready when you need it.
>
> It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and
> ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a
> stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who
> is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository.
> Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook
> ought to be enough for most people.
Besides, an uptodate portstree is no guarantee at all that all ports will
compile and/or all dependencies will work. That's why there are periods of
ports freeze before every RELEASE.
On a desktop system, I tend to use binary packages only, coming with the
release.
Ruben
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Dear all:
I'm having troubles installing Freebsd 7.2 (i386) on a HP Proliant
DL5= 80 G5(Intel):
The system boots from the Install-CD, and while probing the hardware,
= it suddenly freezes.
The last line on the console is
VGA: .....
anyone can show me hot to solve it?
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Hi,
I have a brand new HDD and I copied my system and home directory to it.
While copying my home directory I got the following errors at dmesg and
/var/log/messages:
Aug 21 08:49:16 pc kernel: g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879299584,
length=32768)]error = 1
Aug 21 08:49:51 pc last message repeated 12 times
Aug 21 08:51:51 pc last message repeated 19 times
Aug 21 08:55:25 pc last message repeated 35 times
Aug 21 08:55:29 pc kernel: g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879315968,
length=16384)]error = 1
Aug 21 08:55:29 pc last message repeated 4 times
Errno 1 would mean access denied. However - this makes no sense to me for
the hardware access to the harddisk.
The partition is encrypted via gbde. So /dev/ufs/home points to the same
partition /dev/label/home.bde which is the "decrypted" /dev/label/home.
(And /dev/label/home points to /dev/ad4s4e)
smartctrl -a /dev/ad4 reports no errors (i.e. sector defects)
uname -a:
FreeBSD pc.martinlaabs.de 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Aug 15
18:48:58 CEST 2009
martin@pc.martinlaabs.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
Can you explain me that error?
Thank you,
Martin L.
PS:
Here is my dmesg (the "medium not present" error at sa0 is ok since it is a
streamer without a tape)
Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Aug 15 18:48:58 CEST 2009
martin@pc.martinlaabs.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
module_register: module uhub/uftdi already exists!
Module uhub/uftdi failed to register: 17
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2795.97-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x100f62 Stepping = 2
Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,C
MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
Features2=0x802009<SSE3,MON,CX16,POPCNT>
AMD
Features=0xee500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow!+,3DNow!
>
AMD
Features2=0x37ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,
SKINIT,WDT>
TSC: P-state invariant
Cores per package: 2
real memory = 2012938240 (1919 MB)
avail memory = 1947013120 (1856 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <040909 APIC1950>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic0 <Version 1.1> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: <040909 RSDT1950> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of fefe1000, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fee01000, ff000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fec00000, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> port 0x1f00-0x1fff at device 1.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 1.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: <processor> at device 1.3 (no driver attached)
ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xfbe7f000-0xfbe7ffff irq 22 at
devic
e 2.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ohci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: <nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
uhub0: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ehci0: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfbe7ec00-0xfbe7ecff irq 23
at d
evice 2.1 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usb1: EHCI version 1.0
usb1: companion controller, 12 ports each: usb0
usb1: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1: <nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
uhub1: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ohci1: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xfbe7d000-0xfbe7dfff irq 20 at
devic
e 4.0 on pci0
ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ohci1: [ITHREAD]
usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb2: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci1
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: <nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ehci1: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfbe7e800-0xfbe7e8ff irq 21
at d
evice 4.1 on pci0
ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci1: [ITHREAD]
usb3: EHCI version 1.0
usb3: companion controller, 12 ports each: usb2
usb3: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci1
usb3: USB revision 2.0
uhub3: <nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
atapci0: <nVidia nForce MCP67 UDMA133 controller> port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0
x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 6.0 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
hdac0: <NVidia MCP67 High Definition Audio Controller> mem
0xfbe78000-0xfbe7bfff
irq 22 at device 7.0 on pci0
hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136
hdac0: [ITHREAD]
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
pcib2: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 10.0 on pci1
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
asr0: <Adaptec Caching SCSI RAID> mem 0xf6000000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at
device 10.
1 on pci1
asr0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
asr0: [ITHREAD]
asr0: ADAPTEC 2100S FW Rev. 370F, 1 channel, 256 CCBs, Protocol I2O
atapci1: <nVidia nForce MCP67 SATA300 controller> port
0xf80-0xf87,0xf00-0xf03,0
xe80-0xe87,0xe00-0xe03,0xdc00-0xdc0f mem 0xfbe76000-0xfbe77fff irq 23 at
device
9.0 on pci0
atapci1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
ata4: [ITHREAD]
ata5: <ATA channel 3> on atapci1
ata5: [ITHREAD]
nfe0: <NVIDIA nForce MCP67 Networking Adapter> port 0xd880-0xd887 mem
0xfbe7c000
-0xfbe7cfff,0xfbe7e400-0xfbe7e4ff,0xfbe7e000-0xfbe7e00f irq 20 at device
10.0 on
pci0
miibus0: <MII bus> on nfe0
rgephy0: <RTL8169S/8110S/8211B media interface> PHY 3 on miibus0
rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-F
DX, auto
nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:19:66:db:c0:ec
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
nfe0: [FILTER]
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 11.0 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 12.0 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 13.0 on pci0
pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
pcib6: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 14.0 on pci0
pci6: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib6
pcib7: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 15.0 on pci0
pci7: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib7
pcib8: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 16.0 on pci0
pci8: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib8
pcib9: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 17.0 on pci0
pci9: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib9
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> mem
0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xe0000000-0xeffffff
f,0xf9000000-0xf9ffffff irq 21 at device 18.0 on pci0
nvidia0: <GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
nvidia0: [ITHREAD]
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: <Generic IRDA-compatible device> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on
acpi
0
sio0: type 16550A
sio0: [FILTER]
fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
acpi
0
fdc0: [FILTER]
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
sio1: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
sio1: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
sio1: [FILTER]
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
pmtimer0 on isa0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ppc0: [ITHREAD]
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
ums0: <Logitech USB Mouse, class 0/0, rev 1.10/6.20, addr 2> on uhub0
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
uhub4: <vendor 0x0451 product 0x2046, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr 2> on
uhub2
uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, bus powered
ugen0: <SafeNet Inc. SafeNet Sentinel, class 255/0, rev 2.00/1.01, addr 3>
on uh
ub4
ugen1: <AKS Hardlock USB 1.02, class 255/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4> on uhub4
uhid0: <Logitech Logitech Extreme 3D, class 0/0, rev 1.10/2.04, addr 5> on
uhub2
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: 76319MB <Seagate ST380021A 3.19> at ata0-master UDMA100
ad1: 76319MB <SAMSUNG SP0842N BH900-41> at ata0-slave UDMA133
ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502HI 1AG01118> at ata2-master SATA300
hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC662
pcm0: <HDA Realtek ALC662 PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm1: <HDA Realtek ALC662 PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Medium not present
(probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Unretryable error
sa0 at asr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
sa0: <SEAGATE DAT 9SP40-000 910B> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
nfe0: link state changed to UP
fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8
WARNING: /media was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted
WARNING: R/W mount of /ns denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck
g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879299584, length=32768)]error = 1
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Hello list,
in the last few months more and more cvsup-servers are printing
error-messages like them:
host# csup ports-supfile
Connected to 212.118.165.142
Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
host#
Even cvsup has problems with them. What does the error messages exactly
means and how can I connect nevertheless to them?
With regards
Stevan Tiefert
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Subject: 7.2 dying with Kernel Trap 12
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My 7.2 FreeBSD server has started to crash with kernel trap 12. I googled
around and most of the topics I found were about faulty RAM or other harware
problems. This is VMware vitual machine so I see no way of hardware problems
as we even tried to move the machine around VMware nodes to see it's RAM. It
worked absolutely fine for about two months, but now sometimes the server
lives for up to 5 hours, sometimes it panics in 10 minutes. Is there anyone
that can help me to resolve the problem?
Here are few errors on crash:
kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 2; apic id = 02
fault virtual address = 0x10
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21
stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72dec1c
frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72dec30
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 36 (sctp_iterator)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 2
-----------------------------
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
fault virtual address = 0x6e727598
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08bf945
stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfaa8
frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfacc
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 30 (em1 taskq)
trap number = 12
--------------------------------------
kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
fault virtual address = 0x10
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21
stack pointer = 0x28:0xc73e29c4
frame pointer = 0x28:0xc73e29d8
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 9020 (libssl.so)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 0
Uptime: 25m37s
Thank You
Zete
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PJ wrote:
> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
> ordered universe!
> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
> with Error code 1.
>
> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
> absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of
> starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for
> some rationality to this world.
> Thanks for any ideas...
> _______________________________________________
Not entirely sure this is totally relevant, but I wouldn't install any
packages or third party apps when first installing a fresh system. The
packages built at the time the release CD was created are already out of
date and the ports tree has moved forward.
It's OK to go ahead and install the ports tree as part of the fresh install,
however do not use it! The first thing I do after a fresh install is to csup
the ports tree to '*default release=cvs tag=.'. (I know it's silly but don't
confuse the tag=. with the end of sentence.) You have the best chance now
for dependency tracking to be dead on, but the chance always remains that at
any one given point in time there may be errors. The ports tree is fluid and
changes constantly. Usually if there is a problem and the port(s)
maintainers are made aware they get it fixed fairly quick and a quick csup
after they repair will make it all good again.
Also realize that the previously mentioned tag if applied to src-all will
pull down the sources for -CURRENT/HEAD. I have two separate sup files for
each collection, one for source and one for ports. You can put them both in
the same supfile if you want and there have been recent examples posted, you
just have to make sure to get it right or you'll have a real mess. In other
words, be aware of the different tags between tracking src-all and ports-
all. Should you use the wrong tag to track ports-all you may experience
inconsistent problems.
On another note, should you find yourself in a position where you have two
perfectly identical machines sitting next to each other, e.g., you know
positively for a fact that everything is the same such as ports tree freshly
csup'ed, etc, and one machine is barfing during compiling you may have a
marginally bad hardware memory problem. Compiling (especially make
world/kernel) really hits the memory hard. I once had a machine whose memory
would 'sing' with an audible tone only during compilation. Such a noise in
chip circuitry is an oscillation which should not happen and if you continue
to operate the chip under that set of conditions it will fry.
About the only thing you could try in this scenario would be to add latency
clocks to the RAM in the mainboard BIOS. Whether this actually helps would
really only be test of the hypothesis and not a true fix. Most memory should
just auto time itself by SPD and shouldn't need to be 'slowed down'. If I
saw this I'd replace the memory with new, as if it can't operate correctly
at the SPD timings it is of substandard quality.
-Mike
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schrieb Stevan Tiefert <stevan-tiefert@kabelmail.de>:
Hi Stevan,
I connected to cvsup5.de.freebsd.org a long time with no errors.
Jochen
> Hello list,
>
> in the last few months more and more cvsup-servers are printing
> error-messages like them:
>
> host# csup ports-supfile
> Connected to 212.118.165.142
> Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> host#
>
> Even cvsup has problems with them. What does the error messages
> exactly means and how can I connect nevertheless to them?
>
> With regards
> Stevan Tiefert
>
>
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Mak Kolybabi wrote:
> On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote:
>> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that
>>
>> CPU doesn't support long mode
>
> Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others
> have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I
> have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very
> similar issue is here:
>
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420
>
> One notable quote is:
>
> ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you
> will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run
> a 64 bit host.
>
> HTH
[snip]
I think this CPU does support hardware virtualization. The other situation
which might produce this is if the ubuntu 9.0.4 install itself is 32 bit,
and the Virtualbox package will then be 32 bit as well. I haven't looked at
Ubuntu in quite some time, as I found it annoying, but IIRC there are two
different CD downloads - one for the 32bit version and one for the 64 bit
version. This is what I seem to remember but it may also have changed since
I last played with it.
If you weren't paying attention and installed the 32 bit version it might
very well explain the error. If such a thing is the case you have two
choices. Either install the i386 32 bit version of FreeBSD as the guest
instead of the 64 bit amd64 or reinstall Ubuntu with the 64 bit version.
-Mike
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You can do it in the /etc/rc.conf file
you can see the examples in the /etc/defaults/rc.conf
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM, keith cak <keithcak@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD .
>
> Thank you.
> _
>
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Mak Kolybabi wrote:
> On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote:
>> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that
>>
>> CPU doesn't support long mode
>
> Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have
> encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea
> what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here:
>
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420
>
> One notable quote is:
>
> ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will
> not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit
> host.
>
This CPU does support hardware virtualization as can be seen by the svm
flag in the output of cpuinfo.
It may be obvious but...
Did you install the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
uname -m will tell you.
--
Duncan Hutty
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> Howard Goldstein <hg@queue.to> writes:
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>> It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual
>> browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through
>> firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome?
>
> Yeah, it's really from the gecko handling. According to
> Mk/bsd.gecko.mk, I think you could add something like the following to
> make.conf to do what you need:
>
> USE_GECKO= firefox3<->firefox
But it doesn't work, and neither does the formulat actually given in the
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keith cak wrote:
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> May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD .
If it is a one-time change:
% ifconfig em0 208.70.111.88/24
If you need it to remain across a reboot, use rc.conf as Aftab suggested.
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>
> May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD .
man 5 rc.conf
man 8 dhclient
man 8 ifconfig
>
> Thank you.
> [SNIP]
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I should clarify my statement a bit. FreeBSD notices the channel
starting up when the disk is inserted, but it doesn't recognize that
there is a disk there. I usually see something like:
da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da2: <HPT DISK 0_2 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
once I insert a disk, but I see nothing but the channel start up when I
insert this new disk. I've had a 500GB drive in this channel previously
and it was identified correctly, so I know the channel on the card is ok.
I've also updated to the latest firmware on the card and as expected, no
change. So I guess the question is, why isn't FreeNSD recognizing the disk?
Rob
Rob wrote:
> I've a 10 disk server that I am using as a file server. I split the
> disks up unto 3 partitions, with a being part of a gmirror for /, b
> being part of a gmirror for swap, and d being part of the zfs pool. I've
> got 6 SATA headers on my MB, and 4 from a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310
> controller which I'm just using as an SATA controller (no RAID
> functionality).
>
> I recently added an Hitachi 1TB drive to the RocketRAID controller, but
> I'm not seeing FreeBSD assign it a device node. FreeBSD recognizes the
> drive insertion, but doesn't give it a device node. All the drives are
> SATA hot-swap, so I connected the drive to a header off the MB and
> FreeBSD happily gave it a device node. Additionally, I already have a
> few of these drives in the array, but they're all connected to headers
> on the MB. This is the first attempt at adding one to the RocketRAID
> controller. The controller currently has 3 other disks in it that are
> 500GB, and FreeBSD has had no problems with them. The RocketRAID
> controller's BIOS recognizes the disk as well, so it doesn't seem the
> card is incapable of handling disks that large. I've even tried
> rebooting the system after the drive has been connected, but no luck.
>
> Here's the respective info from the boot sequence as it pertains to the
> RocketRAID and the drives attached to it:
>
> hptrr: start channel [0,0]
> hptrr: start channel [0,1]
> hptrr: start channel [0,2]
> hptrr: start channel [0,3]
> hptrr: [0 0] Start channel soft reset.
> hptrr: [0 1] Start channel soft reset.
> hptrr: [0 2] Start channel soft reset.
> hptrr: [0 3] Start channel soft reset.
> hptrr: channel [0,0] started successfully
> hptrr: channel [0,1] started successfully
> hptrr: channel [0,2] started successfully
> hptrr: channel [0,3] started successfully
> hptrr0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> hptrr0: [ITHREAD]
> ...
> da0 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <HPT DISK 0_0 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
> da1 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> da1: <HPT DISK 0_1 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
> da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
> da2: <HPT DISK 0_2 4.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
> ...
>
> The only difference I've found is that in the RocketRAID BIOS, the 3
> 500GB drives are recognized with a Legacy Status, whereas the 1TB is
> recognized as New Status. Not sure what that means or how to change it.
> The sizes are reported correctly in the RocketRAID BIOS. I believe
> there is a BIOS update available for the card, but I wouldn't think it
> would be necessary since the card's BIOS seems to recognize the card
> just fine.
>
> Any suggestions/help?
>
> Rob
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Hello,
I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are
disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or
there, but it's starting to add up.
I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for
later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you
use or recommend for video monitoring?
TIA,
Kevin Kinsey
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On August 20, 2009, Scott Schappell wrote:
> I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified
> it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have
> dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well.
If you don't have it already, you may also need
ddb_enable="YES"
savecore_enable="YES"
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Looking at info.0 I see:
Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
Architecture: i386
Architecture Version: 2
Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB)
Blocksize: 512
Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009
Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org
Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT
2009
root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR
Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
Dump Parity: 2778312054
Bounds: 0
Dump Status: good
This is interesting:
"Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod"
It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system
modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount?
If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know.
Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted
then mount -o rw /backup.
Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related.
Scott
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On 8/21/09, Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are
> disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or
> there, but it's starting to add up.
>
> I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for
> later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you
> use or recommend for video monitoring?
>
> TIA,
>
> Kevin Kinsey
Not a BSD solution, but we use OnSSI at work. www.onssi.com
It's a windows based solution, they offer a 30-day trial to their
software that is completely IP camera/network driven solution. We've
sold it to many customers and I would strongly recommend it.
--Tim
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Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are
> disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or
> there, but it's starting to add up.
>=20
> I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for
> later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you use or=20
> recommend for video monitoring?
multimedia/motion for the image capture. We use it with a bunch of
Axis cameras -- connectivity via IP networking -- but it should work
with many different webcams. Check the wiki at http://www.lavrsen.dk/twi=
ki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome to find something
suitable.
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Matthew
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Neal Hogan wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJ<af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
>> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
>> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
>> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
>> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
>> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
>> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
>> ordered universe!
>> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
>> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
>> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
>> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
>> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
>> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
>> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
>> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
>> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
>> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
>> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
>> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
>> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
>> with Error code 1.
>>
>> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
>> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
>> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
>> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
>> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
>> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
>> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
>> rationality to this world.
>> Thanks for any ideas...
>>
>
> Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with
> something that is giving you soooooo much trouble?
> There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate
> that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week
> . . . but . . .
>
> >From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential
> files. Rationality may dictate you moving on.
>
> The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is
> to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the
> pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What
> happened to the "faulty hardware" idea?
>
> I dunno . . . good luck!
>
First, the problem is not FreeBSD... it is the idiots who think they know how to deal with a lot of stuff and then post all sorts of stuff that just confuses the hell out of simpletons like me. I made the mistake of thinking some jerk had written a little script that would do an update of ports with csup... well, I did post looking for an explanation of why the damned thing didn't work... and the responses I got were rather cryptic and din't explain anything even though a good programmer would have understood it would not work... :-)
I'm certainly not a programmer in the professional sense at all...
so in thinking about the problem I saw that the ports were not being correctly updated... once I got that right, everything worked fine. I even fixed that little script and updates are a cinch.
As for faulty hardware... haven't found any up to now... I hae just 1 drive left to check and I'll know for sure... ;-)
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Lane Holcombe wrote:
> I'm all over this!
>
> Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
>
> portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
>
> You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
> have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
> whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
> ready when you need it.
>
> Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first
> thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
> creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
> like this:
>
> <begin cvsupfile>
> *default host=<IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR>
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
> *default compress
> src-all
> src-contrib
> ports-all tag=.
> </end cvsupfile>
>
> Note that the <begin> and </end> tags are put in the email for clarity,
> but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is
> overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.
>
> Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust
> to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed.
>
> So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:
>
> csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile
>
> Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
> 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you
> are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
> cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where
> you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
> nearly there!)
>
> Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
> tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.
>
> And you still might get those :)
>
> So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
> install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...
Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
I'm suckere in to try it.
Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok?
======
#!/bin/sh
#
# Update source, docs and ports
LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)"
cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
csup ports-supfile
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
/usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF
cd $LOCAL_DIR
=======
>
> Good Luck!
>
> lane
>
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
>> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
>> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
>> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
>> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
>> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
>> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
>> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
>> ordered universe!
>> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
>> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
>> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
>> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
>> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
>> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
>> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
>> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
>> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
>> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
>> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
>> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
>> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
>> with Error code 1.
>>
>> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
>> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
>> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
>> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
>> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
>> absurd.
>> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
>> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
>> rationality to this world.
>> Thanks for any ideas...
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
> Lane Holcombe wrote:
> > I'm all over this!
> >
> > Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
> >
> > portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
> >
> > You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
> > have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
> > whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
> > ready when you need it.
> >
> > Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first
> > thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
> > creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
> > like this:
> >
> > <begin cvsupfile>
> > *default host=<IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR>
> > *default base=/usr
> > *default prefix=/usr
> > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
> > *default compress
> > src-all
> > src-contrib
> > ports-all tag=.
> > </end cvsupfile>
> >
> > Note that the <begin> and </end> tags are put in the email for clarity,
> > but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is
> > overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.
> >
> > Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust
> > to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed.
> >
> > So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:
> >
> > csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile
> >
> > Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
> > 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you
> > are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
> > cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where
> > you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
> > nearly there!)
> >
> > Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
> > tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.
> >
> > And you still might get those :)
> >
> > So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
> > install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...
>
> Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
> the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
> good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
> badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
> I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
> I'm suckere in to try it.
> Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
> sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
> I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
> changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
> from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok?
> ======
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # Update source, docs and ports
>
> LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)"
>
> cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
> csup ports-supfile
> cd /usr/ports
> make fetchindex
>
> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
> /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF
>
> cd $LOCAL_DIR
> =======
>
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > lane
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
> >> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
> >> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
> >> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
> >> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
> >> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
> >> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
> >> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
> >> ordered universe!
> >> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
> >> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
> >> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
> >> a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
> >> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
> >> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
> >> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
> >> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
> >> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
> >> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
> >> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
> >> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
> >> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
> >> with Error code 1.
> >>
> >> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
> >> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
> >> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
> >> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
> >> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
> >> absurd.
> >> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
> >> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
> >> rationality to this world.
> >> Thanks for any ideas...
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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> >
> >
>
> Sounds like you're really struggling hard to reinvent the wheel. Why not
use portsnap and portmaster?
--
Adam Vande More
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>from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok?
Well, not quite.
>======
>#!/bin/sh
>#
># Update source, docs and ports
>
>LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)"
You don't need to change directories if you change some of the
commands slightly, so the above line and the last line are
unnecessary.
>
>cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
>csup ports-supfile
The example scripts shouldn't be run as-is: you need to edit them
first, or issue more flags on the command-line. For instance, for the
ports-supfile you need at least to either change the
*default host ...
line to use the server of your choice, or issue a -h flag with the
right server in your script. (The choice of the right server can make
a substantial difference in how long this process takes -- you can
experiment with different servers, and/or use the
sysutils/fastest_cvsup port to find one that works well for you. Not
every server is updated at the same interval.) Also, you can avoid
changing directories by just using a full path to the cvsup script
file. So, for example, you should replace the above two lines in the
script with something like:
csup -L 2 -h cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
I prefer to increase the verbosity with the -L switch, so that I have
a better idea of what's happening if something goes wrong. All of
this is covered in the FreeBSD Handbook. Also, you need not use
csup(1) at all if you prefer to use portsnap(8) instead.
>cd /usr/ports
>make fetchindex
>/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
You don't need all of the three previous lines: you can just run
'portsdb -F' or 'portsdb -Fu' instead. Also, these lines and the line
below require one of the portupgrade ports to be installed, but I
guess you know that. If you're not planning on using portupgrade,
then don't use the portsdb or pkgdb commands, but just run: 'make -C
/usr/ports fetchindex' instead.
>/usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF
>cd $LOCAL_DIR
As I mentioned, you don't need this last line.
b.
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Doug Hardie<bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
> I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in IPv6.
> =A0However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure that its =
not a
> misunderstanding on my part.
>
> The network setup. =A0A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to
> another host (C) on a separate network. =A0When all are up and running, A=
can
> ping6 to C and gets a response. =A0If you power off C and then do the pin=
g
> again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable datagram
> received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to the user. =A0=
A
> ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6 response. =A0It=
s my
> understanding that it should and the ping6 code seems to imply that also.=
Is
> this a bug?
> _______________________________________________
What version of FreeBSD are you using ?
Did you try the -v parameter to ping6 to display non-echo responses ?
(man ping6)
In a similar test I ran, I was able to get the icmp6 host unreachable
message from ping6 -v on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. (I pinged a non-existent
address/machine off an upstream router)
uname -a
FreeBSD dhorn-bsd 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24
00:57:44 UTC 2009
root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
dhorn@dhorn-bsd:~> ping6 -v 2001:470:7:584::3
PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx --> 2001:470:7:58=
4::3
64 bytes from 2001:470:7:584::1: Destination Host Unreachable
Vr TC Flow Plen Nxt Hlim
6 00 00000 0010 3a 3e
2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx->2001:470:7:584::3
ICMP6: type =3D 128, code =3D 0
The other thing to potentially look at would be firewall rules, but
that is unlikely if you can see the icmp6 response in tcpdump.
Good Luck.
--Dave
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PJ wrote:
[snip]
>
> Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
> the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
> good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
> badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
> I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
> I'm suckere in to try it.
> Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
> sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
> I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
> changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
> from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok?
> ======
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # Update source, docs and ports
>
> LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)"
>
> cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
> csup ports-supfile
> cd /usr/ports
> make fetchindex
>
> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
> /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF
>
> cd $LOCAL_DIR
> =======
>
I essentially do something very similar. About once a week I do this:
csup -L 2 ports && portsdb -uF && pkgdb -u && portversion
This pretty much does the same thing as the script.
I keep intending to make it a cron job and email me the output, but until I
get 'round to it I just take a quick gander at the output and if needed
issue a portupgrade -a. 9.8 times out of 10 this is all I ever need. Every
once in a while I have to manually fix something, but that isn't all that
often, maybe once or twice a year. Another thing is to read UPDATING
religiously as this can help sidestep boo boos before they happen.
[snip]
-Mike
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I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a
FreeBSD 7.2 webserver:
/etc
/usr/home
/usr/local
/var/cron
These directories contain all the data and config files that I use...
I think...
Question: am I missing anything crucial?
Thanks: John
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM, John Almberg <jalmberg@identry.com> wrote:
> I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a FreeBSD
> 7.2 webserver:
>
> /etc
> /usr/home
> /usr/local
> /var/cron
>
> These directories contain all the data and config files that I use... I
> think...
>
> Question: am I missing anything crucial?
>
> Thanks: John
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/var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db can be useful to have around or at least something like
a current portmaster -l > ~/installed-pkgs.txt
--
Adam Vande More
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John Almberg schrieb:
> I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a FreeBSD
> 7.2 webserver:
>
> /etc
> /usr/home
> /usr/local
> /var/cron
>
> These directories contain all the data and config files that I use... I
> think...
>
> Question: am I missing anything crucial?
>
> Thanks: John
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Hi!
As I think you should backup /var/db/ports and /var/db/packages in case
your machine crashes and you might have /usr/local on an extra
partition. Then you can easily make a new installation without
reinstalling the whole stuff under /usr/local. The named directories
contain information about the installed ports/packages and are needed to
recover a crashed system.
Greetings Frank
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On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:33 PM, John Almberg wrote:
> I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a
> FreeBSD 7.2 webserver:
>
> /etc
> /usr/home
> /usr/local
> /var/cron
>
> These directories contain all the data and config files that I
> use... I think...
>
> Question: am I missing anything crucial?
My general advice is to back up everything and then explicitly
excluding those things that you know that you don't need. Here is my
exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf
exclude /var/log
exclude /var/tmp
exclude /usr/obj
exclude /usr/ports/distfiles
exclude /usr/local/squid
Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp
It is far to easy to forget something that needs to be backed up.
Cheers,
-j
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QUOTE
My general advice is to back up everything and then explicitly
excluding those things that you know that you don't need. Here is my
exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf
exclude /var/log
exclude /var/tmp
exclude /usr/obj
exclude /usr/ports/distfiles
exclude /usr/local/squid
Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp
UNQUOTE
Interesting...
That raises another question... How feasible is it to restore a server
from these backups? Is it really possible to install 7.2 on a new machine
and then just copy the backed up data onto the new machine?
I guess I should really verify the value of my backups by trying to do
exactly that!
-- John
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:01:50 -0500, Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> wrote:
> I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for
> later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you=20
> use or recommend for video monitoring?
There are very simple but still powerful tools. Sadly, you need
very specific hardware to use them.
First of all, you need to find a video grabber card, usually
PCI, that is supported by FreeBSD's bktr driver. See "man
bktr" for more information. Those models are currently
supported:
=B7 AOpen VA1000
=B7 AVerMedia AVerTV Studio
=B7 AVerMedia TF/FM-98
=B7 ATI TV Wonder VE
=B7 Hauppauge WinCast/TV
=B7 Hauppauge WinTV-Go-FM
=B7 Hauppauge WinTV-pci
=B7 Hauppauge WinTV-radio
=B7 Intel Smart Video Recorder III
=B7 KWORLD PCI TV Tuner
=B7 Miro PC TV
=B7 Pinnacle PCTV Pro
=B7 Pinnacle PCTV Rave
=B7 PixelView PlayTV PAK
=B7 PixelView PlayTV Pro (rev 4C, 9D)
=B7 SIGMA TV II
=B7 STB TV PCI Television Tuner
=B7 Super TV Tuner
=B7 TerraTec TValue
=B7 V-Stream XPERT TV-PVR 878
=B7 Video Highway XTreme
=B7 VideoLogic Captivator PCI
I have such a card myself, and it works excellently with FreeBSD.
Now for the softwar. If you don't need stuff like motion triggers
or audio triggers, you can simply use mencoder to record from
the video-in source of the card. In case you have two cards, you
can use one mencoder command per card. In case you are able to
connect one camera via video, the other one via RF (antenna)
signal, you can use one mencoder command per input.
In principle, it works like this: You tell mplayer to record from
the given source into a file. You can specify the codec that should
be used in order to have files that are "small enough" not to fill
your hard disk within few hours, but are still "good enough" to
see something.
Refer to the good "man mencoder" manpage for examples how to do
that. You would probably use something like this:
mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=3Dxvcd -af lavcresam=
ple=3D44100 -lavcopts vcodec=3Dmpeg1video:keyint=3D15:vrc_buf_size=3D327:vr=
c_minrate=3D1152:vbitrate=3D1152:vrc_maxrate=3D1152:acodec=3Dmp2:abitrate=
=3D224 -ofps 25 -o video1.mpg tv://0
Don't get scared by the many options. I'm sure you'll only need
half of them.
Finally, I'm not quite sure if mplayer or mencoder is the correct
program for that. Maybe it's simple mplayer...
--=20
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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> That raises another question... How feasible is it to restore a server
> from these backups? Is it really possible to install 7.2 on a new machine
> and then just copy the backed up data onto the new machine?
>
> I guess I should really verify the value of my backups by trying to do
> exactly that!
>
I once had a 5.4 machine that lost its primary hard drive. (Was supposed to be
RAID mirrored, but this was the only boot drive.) We got a new drive,
installed a fresh copy of 5.4 and copied back all the data files. Those were
"backed up" using rsync to a USB drive I keep at work. This was a standalone
internet addressable server running http, imaps, dns and a pot full of other
things - the only server for this domain. (It now has two.)
Everything worked as expected, and no data was found to be missing or
unrecoverable. We were down for a while, but we lost nothing.
And yes, you should test your recovery procedures to make sure your backups are
actually working. There's nothing like trying to restore from backup only to
discover your backups were never really working.
--
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*******************************************
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Hello,
I once had a problem in linux "sometimes connecting to windows file
sharing with CIFS is extremely slow." After too much searching, I
discovered the problem was a buggy kernel device driver for some lame
ethernet card I bought.
Which kernel ethernet device driver works best under FreeBSD? I want to
purchase an ethernet card that uses that driver.
Thank you,
Chris
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On 8/21/09, Chris Stankevitz <cstankevitz@toyon.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I once had a problem in linux "sometimes connecting to windows file
> sharing with CIFS is extremely slow." After too much searching, I
> discovered the problem was a buggy kernel device driver for some lame
> ethernet card I bought.
>
> Which kernel ethernet device driver works best under FreeBSD? I want to
> purchase an ethernet card that uses that driver.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chris
You haven't searched google.
shame.
buy an intel, an fxp or em driver is always recommended.
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I appreciate the help thus far; as /rescue/csh in single user mode has moved
me past my first hurdle. However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was
working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty
for whatever reason in the current state.) If it has been wiped, my
ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. What to do?
Thanks much
Stew
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Mel Flynn <
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> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:44:12 Stew Houston wrote:
> > Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> instead
> > of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't
> > remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I
> > could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way
> I
> > can undo this blunder?
>
> /rescue/mv /path/to/jail/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec/
> --
> Mel
>
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Stew Houston<stewhouston@gmail.com> wrote:
> I appreciate the help thus far; as /rescue/csh in single user mode has mo=
ved
> me past my first hurdle. =A0However, being the blundering newbie I am, I =
was
> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is em=
pty
> for whatever reason in the current state.) =A0If it has been wiped, my
> ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. =A0What to do?
>
You'll have to mount /tmp to use it. On my system, /tmp is
/dev/ad6s1e - yours may vary.
--=20
Glen Barber
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Subject: Re: Possible bug with IPv6 ICMPv6 handling
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On 21 August 2009, at 11:33, David Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Doug Hardie<bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
>> I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in
>> IPv6.
>> However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure that
>> its not a
>> misunderstanding on my part.
>>
>> The network setup. A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to
>> another host (C) on a separate network. When all are up and
>> running, A can
>> ping6 to C and gets a response. If you power off C and then do the
>> ping
>> again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable datagram
>> received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to the
>> user. A
>> ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6
>> response. Its my
>> understanding that it should and the ping6 code seems to imply that
>> also. Is
>> this a bug?
>> _______________________________________________
>
> What version of FreeBSD are you using ?
7.2 and 7.0.
> Did you try the -v parameter to ping6 to display non-echo responses ?
> (man ping6)
No - didn't notice that in either the ping or ping6 man pages before.
>
> In a similar test I ran, I was able to get the icmp6 host unreachable
> message from ping6 -v on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. (I pinged a non-existent
> address/machine off an upstream router)
>
> uname -a
> FreeBSD dhorn-bsd 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24
> 00:57:44 UTC 2009
> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
>
> dhorn@dhorn-bsd:~> ping6 -v 2001:470:7:584::3
> PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx -->
> 2001:470:7:584::3
> 64 bytes from 2001:470:7:584::1: Destination Host Unreachable
> Vr TC Flow Plen Nxt Hlim
> 6 00 00000 0010 3a 3e
> 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx->2001:470:7:584::3
> ICMP6: type = 128, code = 0
>
> The other thing to potentially look at would be firewall rules, but
> that is unlikely if you can see the icmp6 response in tcpdump.
No firewall involved.
>
> Good Luck.
It would appear that this is an error, but in ping and not ping6.
Both of their man pages have exactly the same comment for -v.
However, ping does show things like Host down etc without the -v
argument. Ping6 works per the man page and does not. I don't think
that this is worth a PR though. Thanks for the help.
>
> --Dave
>
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston <stewhouston@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was
> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty
> for whatever reason in the current state.)
Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled
via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES".
As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff,
a command like
# cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
# make install
could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am
not sure.
> If it has been wiped, my
> ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. What to do?
If your source tree is still intact, you could install it from
there.
It may be possible that the system doesn't run "well enough" to
perform this task. In such a case a live file system could help
you, e. g. the FreeBSD rescue system or a FreeSBIE bootable CD.
--
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Hi,
I've little off topic suggestion regarding network design.
The solution you are implementing will mean to make hundreds of users share=
the same broadcast domain. As all your FTTH and other DSLAMS would be work=
ing in bridge mode.
This scenerio is not safe as if anyone of your clients will start his own p=
ppoe server you will be in strange trouble, there can be other issues too.
I guess your DSLAMs must have built in pppoe support and radius client, if =
its there then every port of dslams can be separate broadcast domain. This =
will cause you extra routing management (depending upon your scsnerio)
In case your DSLAMS have no pppoe feature then i would suggest you to at le=
ast put every DSLAM's uplink port in deparate VLAN and connect pppoe server=
using trunk port or multiple single ports.
And before implementing this solution consult your DSLAM vendor cause ive o=
bserved problems in ipdslams when used in bridge/transperant mode.
Regards
usman
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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
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Replying to my own message in order to clarify:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston <stewhouston@gmail.com> wrote:
> > However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was
> > working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty
> > for whatever reason in the current state.)
>
> Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled
> via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES".
As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could
still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file:
# mount /tmp
# cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
> As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff,
> a command like
>
> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
> # make install
>
> could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am
> not sure.
I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least
on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy
the file manually.
# cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
# make
# cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on
the / partition.
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Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
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Polytropon wrote:
> Replying to my own message in order to clarify:
>
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston <stewhouston@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was
>>> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty
>>> for whatever reason in the current state.)
>> Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled
>> via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES".
>
> As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could
> still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file:
>
> # mount /tmp
> # cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
>
>
>
>> As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff,
>> a command like
>>
>> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
>> # make install
>>
>> could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am
>> not sure.
>
> I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least
> on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy
> the file manually.
>
> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
> # make
> # cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
>
> Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on
> the / partition.
I don't know if it will help or not, but here is a link to the file in
question.
If all of the other great recommendations don't pan out, you may be able
to boot from some form of 'live cd', and then fetch the file into place.
http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1
% mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt # where ad0s1a is your / on the hard disk
% cd /mnt/libexec
% fetch http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1
% reboot
Steve
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On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote:
> Looking at info.0 I see:
>
>
> Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
> Architecture: i386
> Architecture Version: 2
> Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB)
> Blocksize: 512
> Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009
> Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org
> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
> Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT
> 2009
> root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR
> Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
> Dump Parity: 2778312054
> Bounds: 0
> Dump Status: good
>
> This is interesting:
>
> "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod"
>
> It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system
> modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount?
>
> If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know.
>
> Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted
> then mount -o rw /backup.
>
> Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related.
There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more
relevant information.
--
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Thank you all for the wonderful help. I've recovered the file and the
system is fully operational. The solution that worked was:
Single User Mode
/rescue/sh
/rescue/mount /
/rescue/mount /tmp
/rescue/mv /tmp/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
As I spent my entire youth on Windows, I can honestly say this is the first
time this type scenario didn't end in reformatting. FreeBSD is rockin'
Stew
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Steve Bertrand <steve@ibctech.ca> wrote:
> Polytropon wrote:
> > Replying to my own message in order to clarify:
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston <stewhouston@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was
> >>> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is
> empty
> >>> for whatever reason in the current state.)
> >> Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled
> >> via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES".
> >
> > As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could
> > still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file:
> >
> > # mount /tmp
> > # cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
> >
> >
> >
> >> As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff,
> >> a command like
> >>
> >> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
> >> # make install
> >>
> >> could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am
> >> not sure.
> >
> > I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least
> > on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy
> > the file manually.
> >
> > # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf
> > # make
> > # cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec
> >
> > Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on
> > the / partition.
>
> I don't know if it will help or not, but here is a link to the file in
> question.
>
> If all of the other great recommendations don't pan out, you may be able
> to boot from some form of 'live cd', and then fetch the file into place.
>
> http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1
>
> % mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt # where ad0s1a is your / on the hard disk
> % cd /mnt/libexec
> % fetch http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1
> % reboot
>
> Steve
>
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris <joe@snikeris.com> wrote:
>
> =A0> First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this
> =A0> question. =A0I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 an=
d
> =A0> here. =A0If I might get a better response in one of those forums, pl=
ease
> =A0> let me know and I'll post there instead.
>
> I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi
> but that's usually more about development than usage. =A0You might try
> searching the archives of either for mention of the X40.
>
> =A0> I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the
> =A0> suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. =A0I=
t is
> =A0> mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavio=
r.
> =A0> =A0I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the
> =A0> fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new
> =A0> characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic.
> =A0>
> =A0> The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time=
I
> =A0> hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I
> =A0> was doing in X. =A0Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal befor=
e
> =A0> hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. =A0Does anyone have an=
y
> =A0> suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? =A0The details =
of
> =A0> my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information
> =A0> would be helpful.
>
> My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 to suspend/resume
> cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI)
Thanks Ian. This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the
second time it was executed in X.
At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. I've got suspend-to-ram and
suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM.
Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to
power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? Is powerd able to do
its job just as well?
>
> =A0> > uname -a
> =A0> FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #=
0:
> =A0> Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009
> =A0> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0i3=
86
> =A0>
> =A0> > cat /boot/loader.conf
> =A0> # Disable boot menu
> =A0> beastie_disable=3D"YES"
> =A0> autoboot_delay=3D-1
> =A0>
> =A0> # Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements
> =A0> sem_load=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> # Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display.
> =A0> hw.acpi.reset_video=3D1
> =A0> # Needed so mouse will work on resume
> =A0> hint.psm.0.flags=3D"0x3000"
> =A0>
> =A0> # Possibly needed for successful resume
> =A0> hint.apic.0.disabled=3D1
>
> That might be one to try either way, with other combinations.
>
> =A0> # Needed for sound
> =A0> snd_ich_load=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> # Needed for wireless (iwi)
> =A0> if_iwi_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> wlan_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> firmware_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> iwi_bss_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> iwi_ibss_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> iwi_monitor_load=3D"YES"
> =A0> legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=3D1
> =A0>
> =A0> # Needed for 3d graphics acceleration
> =A0> agp_load=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> # Needed for cdrecord to work
> =A0> atapicam_load=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> # See 'man acpi_ibm'
> =A0> acpi_ibm_load=3D"YES"
>
> I've found that vesa_load=3D"YES" helps on my T23 especially if suspendin=
g
> from a VT rather than in X, referring to your 'console comes up blank.'
> Something to try anyway, and I don't think it ever hurts.
>
> =A0> > cat /etc/rc.conf
> =A0> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul =A04 11:10:49 2009
> =A0> # Created: Sat Jul =A04 11:10:49 2009
> =A0> # Enable network daemons for user convenience.
> =A0> # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf=
.
> =A0> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.co=
nf.
> =A0>
> =A0> # Set by sysinstall
> =A0> hostname=3D"sussman.snikeris.com"
> =A0> #ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP"
> =A0> linux_enable=3D"YES"
> =A0> moused_enable=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> # Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL
> =A0> hald_enable=3D"YES"
> =A0> dbus_enable=3D"YES"
> =A0>
> =A0> keyrate=3D"fast"
> =A0> keybell=3D"off"
> =A0>
> =A0> > cat /etc/sysctl.conf
> =A0> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensm=
ith Exp $
> =A0> #
> =A0> # =A0This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents pip=
ed thru
> =A0> # =A0``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. =A0``man 5 sysctl.conf'' fo=
r details.
> =A0> #
> =A0>
> =A0> # Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about proc=
esses that
> =A0> # are being run under another UID.
> =A0> #security.bsd.see_other_uids=3D0
> =A0>
> =A0> hw.acpi.standby_state=3DS0
> =A0> hw.acpi.suspend_state=3DS3
> =A0> hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=3DS3
> =A0> vfs.usermount=3D1
> =A0> hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3D3
>
> If hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 is no help, I'd try -mobile ..
>
> cheers, Ian
>
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris <joe@snikeris.com> wrote:
> >
> > > First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this
> > > question. I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and
> > > here. If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please
> > > let me know and I'll post there instead.
> >
> > I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi
> > but that's usually more about development than usage. You might try
> > searching the archives of either for mention of the X40.
> >
> > > I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the
> > > suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. It is
> > > mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior.
> > > I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the
> > > fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new
> > > characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic.
> > >
> > > The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I
> > > hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I
> > > was doing in X. Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before
> > > hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. Does anyone have any
> > > suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? The details of
> > > my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information
> > > would be helpful.
> >
> > My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 to suspend/resume
> > cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI)
>
> Thanks Ian. This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the
> second time it was executed in X.
Good to know another model that this works on, for the archives.
> At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. I've got suspend-to-ram and
> suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM.
>
> Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to
> power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? Is powerd able to do
> its job just as well?
The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some
APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state,
though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel.
Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI.
Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels
sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM? If so, try
running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens.
cheers, Ian
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I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after
the "named" process has been launched (during bootup). I am kind of a
newb at diagnosing these sorts of issues, but as an attempt to figure
out what's wrong, I added the following lines to the very bottom of my
/etc/rc.d/named:
case "$1" in
*start)
sleep 5
cat /etc/resolv.conf
ping -c 4 127.0.0.1
host google.com || true
;;
esac
And so, during bootup, I get the following messages, as expected:
Starting named.
domain nerius.com
nameserver 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 ....
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp.....
...
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received...
...
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
The last line is what I don't understand. named is listening on
127.0.0.1, and normal lookups can be done fine after bootup. Then why
can't I do a lookup right after named starts?
By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that
ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not
able to resolve the DNS for the time servers.
Thx.
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I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after
the "named" process has been launched (during bootup). I am kind of a
newb at diagnosing these sorts of issues, but as an attempt to figure
out what's wrong, I added the following lines to the very bottom of my
/etc/rc.d/named:
case "$1" in
*start)
sleep 5
cat /etc/resolv.conf
ping -c 4 127.0.0.1
host google.com || true
;;
esac
And so, during bootup, I get the following messages, as expected:
Starting named.
domain nerius.com
nameserver 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 ....
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp.....
...
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received...
...
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
The last line is what I don't understand. named is listening on
127.0.0.1, and normal lookups can be done fine after bootup. Then why
can't I do a lookup right after named starts?
By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that
ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not
able to resolve the DNS for the time servers.
Thx.
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I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been
instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the
Mak's response here :
<snip>
Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others
have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I
have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very
similar issue is here:
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420
One notable quote is:
...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you
will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run
a 64 bit host.
HTH
</snip>
So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box.
I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and
apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed.
Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to
configure all that stuff by hand?
Thanks for your help.
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08/20/2009 11:59 PM
Hello Duncan Hutty,
I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list
and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable
about freebsd.
I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and
have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver
at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a
freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the
system, and I'd like to.
My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that
CPU doesn't support long mode
Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit
system, but I don't think that's the case :
jfl@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu
01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch
Clock: 1000 MHz
BogoMips: 2009.02
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch
Clock: 1000 MHz
BogoMips: 2009.02
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more.
Have you seen or heard of this before?
Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself.
Thanks for any help you might be able to give.
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John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand
08/15/2009 10:38 PM
My problem seems to be that
CPU doesn't support long mode
Is that it? Can't get there from here?
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John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand
08/15/2009 10:20 PM
Hi,
I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought
I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox
installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK
prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything
with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI
disabled but that seems not to make any difference.
Have you heard of this problem before?
Any help you might give appreciated.
Thanks.
I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter
as well.
--
John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
--
John Francis Lee
1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote:
> =A0> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wr=
ote:
> =A0> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris <joe@snikeris.com>=
wrote:
> =A0> >
> =A0> > =A0> First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for thi=
s
> =A0> > =A0> question. =A0I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI,=
X11 and
> =A0> > =A0> here. =A0If I might get a better response in one of those for=
ums, please
> =A0> > =A0> let me know and I'll post there instead.
> =A0> >
> =A0> > I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -ac=
pi
> =A0> > but that's usually more about development than usage. =A0You might=
try
> =A0> > searching the archives of either for mention of the X40.
> =A0> >
> =A0> > =A0> I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the
> =A0> > =A0> suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X4=
0. =A0It is
> =A0> > =A0> mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange =
behavior.
> =A0> > =A0> =A0I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except =
for the
> =A0> > =A0> fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new
> =A0> > =A0> characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problem=
atic.
> =A0> > =A0>
> =A0> > =A0> The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the ne=
xt time I
> =A0> > =A0> hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying what=
ever I
> =A0> > =A0> was doing in X. =A0Note that if I switch to a virtual termina=
l before
> =A0> > =A0> hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. =A0Does anyone =
have any
> =A0> > =A0> suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? =A0The d=
etails of
> =A0> > =A0> my machine follows; please let me know if any additional info=
rmation
> =A0> > =A0> would be helpful.
> =A0> >
> =A0> > My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 to suspend/r=
esume
> =A0> > cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not A=
CPI)
> =A0>
> =A0> Thanks Ian. =A0This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the
> =A0> second time it was executed in X.
>
> Good to know another model that this works on, for the archives.
>
> =A0> At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. =A0I've got suspend-to-ram and
> =A0> suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM.
> =A0>
> =A0> Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to
> =A0> power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? =A0Is powerd able to=
do
> =A0> its job just as well?
>
> The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some
> APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state,
> though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel.
>
> Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI.
Ok. Just did a search to find out what CPU CX states were. For a
good explanation of the CX states:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/006436.html
>
> Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels
> sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM? =A0If so, try
> running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens.
Yes they are. And powerd in verbose foreground mode shows that it is
lowering the frequency all the way down to 75 MHz depending on the
load. Cool.
Thanks again, Ian.
Take care,
Joe
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This question was asked a few weeks ago, but the original poster
must have had their questions amswered. As follow-ups offered
further assistance given more detail, I wonder if I could be so bold
as to provide that detail for my own circumstances.
I have six disks:
ad4 - 500MB
ad5 - 500MB
ad6 - 500MB
ad7 - 400MB
ad8 - 500MB
ad10 - 500MB
These are SATA drives, with ad8 and ad10 on a PCIe SATA controller.
ad7 was my first disk and currently contains FreeBSD7.2-RELEASE.
I've been using that to gain some familiarity with FreeBSD, but it
need not be preserved (in fact, I'd rather not preserve it!). When I
built the machine, I just plugged the 400GB drive in any old slot,
so it can move if that makes sense. When I got the new drives I tried
to get identical to the 400GB drive, but couldn't. The 400GB drive
currently has a single slice using the full drive.
What I'd like to end up with is a three-way stripe across three
two-way mirrors, containing as much of the system as possible.
I understand that you can't boot from a stripe, so some part of some
disk will have to be outside the stripe. However, as the stripe will
also be limited to the smallest disk, I'm going to have 5 x 100 GB
bits left over anyway, so I guess /boot can go on one of these..?
If possible, I'd like set this up pre-install. If it has to be done
post-install, or is easier to describe how to do post-install, then
that's fine.
>From here on in, this email becomes speculative.
All of the examples I've seen for setting up GEOM stripes and mirrors
have used the raw disk as the base-level provider. On the other hand,
I've seen nothing that says that the bottom level cannot be a slice,
rather than a raw disk, and given the way GEOM works, I suspect this
is true.
My current plan, based on this assumption, is as follows:
With my current FreeBSD installation, create 2 slices on each 500GB
disk, 1 x ~400GB, 1 x ~100GB (the same size as the slice of my 400GB
disk, and the rest of the disk).
Boot from the FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE dvd, and enter fixit mode. I'm
not sure which would be best, or even if both are feasible for what I
want to do. (I was at this point in my researchwhen I found this
post!).
>From here, kldload geom_stripe and kldload geom_mirror.
Then, create the three mirrors:
gmirror label -v main0 /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad5s1
gmirror label -v main1 /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad571
gmirror label -v main2 /dev/ad8s1 /dev/ad10s1
This should give me /mirror/main0|main1|main2, right?
Next create the stripe:
gstripe label -v -s 131072 raid10 /dev/mirror/main0
/dev/mirror/main1
/dev/mirror/main2
(that's all one line)
If I'm right so far, then hopefully I should be able to boot to the
install dvd again (or just rerun sysnstall?), and from there I should
be able to choose a slice from outside 'raid10' to mount /boot, and
use 'raid10' for everything else. Do I need anything else on a
non-striped slice?
Maybe I could even create another mirror:
gmirror label -v boot /dev/ad4s2 /dev/ad5s2
and use that to mount /boot, leaving me with s2 on ad6,8 and 10 as
3 spare 100GB slices?
Or am I just way off track?
PS. I can't believe I'm talking about 300 'spare' GB! My first disk
was 20MB! And I never filed that!
All guidance much appreciated.
Phil
On 30 July, 15:03, John Nielsen <li...@jnielsen.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 15:54:42 Richard Fairbanks wrote:
>
> > OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to
> > run inRAID10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then
...
> > Of course, if there is a way to create the stripedsetoff mirrors before
> > installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't
> > know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured aRAID10
> > "standalone" system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this
> > point!
>
> You need to consider where/how you are going to boot the system. It's
> straightforward to boot from a gmirror'ed UFS filesystem (the BIOS just uses
> one disk and thinks everything is normal), but you can't do the same from a
> stripe. You will either need a separate disk/device for your / or /boot
> partition or you will need to use slices/partitions on your disks. I
> frequently have the root filesystem on a small gmirror (partitions on 2
> disks) then use the equivalent "extra" space on the remaining disk(s) for
> swap.
>
> Youi should be able to do this pre-installfrom the Fixit shell. Boot to the
> live CD, enter the shell, kldload geom_mirror and geom_stripe, create the
> mirrors, create the stripe, exit the shell, start theinstall, and tell
> sysinstall to use the device node under /dev/stripe for your filesystem.
>
> Alternatively you could just do a regularinstallto one of the disks and do
> everything post-install. In this case you'd still create two mirrors but one
> of them would only contain a single disk at first. Then create your stripe,
> dump/restore your files, update fstab (in both locations if needed), reboot
> using the stripe, then add the original system disk into its mirror.
>
> If you provide more details of how you want your setup to look I can give you
> a specific walkthrough if needed.
>
> JN
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:37:09PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote:
> I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after
> the "named" process has been launched (during bootup).
At start, named sends a couple of queries to e.g. root servers. All
this requires the network connection to be already up and running;
and if you're using a firewall, it also needs to be up and ready.
And, more importantly, it requires some time until named is ready
to answer lookups... and in the mean time, you've already launched
other processes who do queries.
I have a similar problem with a little FreeBSD-based home router
running net/mpd5 to connect via PPPoE to a DSL line. Because packages
(and so mpd) start after all system processes, named has problems to
connect to the root servers, pf has problems initializing itself
without ng0 interface, ntpd has problems initializing itself,...
and when mpd finally established the network connection, it is
already too late.
I'd love to change the rc-order of the scripts, so that mpd starts
first, waits until the link is up, and only then starts the other
processes. But until I've found out how to do that the right way,
I wrote a little batch script that gets invoked at link-up, and
that simply restarts all other processes in the order: pf, named,
ntpd, postfix, etc... That's not ideal, but as a kludge, it works
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John Francis Lee wrote:
> I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been
> instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the
> Mak's response here :
>
> <snip>
> Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others
> have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I
> have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very
> similar issue is here:
>
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420
>
> One notable quote is:
>
> ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you
> will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run
> a 64 bit host.
>
> HTH
> </snip>
Something sounds strange here. The name for Intel's hardware virtualization
feature is VT-I, or sometimes VT-x, while AMD's name for the same thing is
AMD-V. Your processor supports AMD-V and VirtualBox supports both, at least
in the version 3.0.4 that I am running.
Alas, my processor is Intel and if there actually is a problem of VirtualBox
not being 64 bit capable with AMD-V I cannot test. Since your host system is
Ubuntu I am also wondering if the problem could involve their packaging of
the product, e.g., an older version of VirtualBox such as 2.x or some such.
Also wonder if it needs to be manually turned on in BIOS. Also I believe the
64 bit support is relatively new so you might want to check which version of
VirtualBox it became included as a new feature and compare that against the
version you have.
Since this is a FreeBSD list I'm just going to say it could be an Ubuntu
problem, and leave it at that.
> So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box.
>
> I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and
> apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed.
>
> Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to
> configure all that stuff by hand?
Don't know. But the default VirtualBox networking is NAT, with it supplying
DHCP services to the client. You may need to enter a line in your (FreeBSD)
/etc/rc.conf similar to:
ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" where rl0 would be whatever is your network interface.
When it boots (the FreeBSD guest) it should be assigned an IP something like
10.0.2.15 and a default gateway something like 10.0.2.2. These can vary.
Also be aware that while you can connect outbound and receive return traffic
you will be unable to initiate inbound connections. If you require this
ability you will need to manually set up VirtualBox in bridge mode, which
also requires some non-trivial config changes to your host OS.
Like I said, something just sounds fishy to me because on the VirtualBox
3.0.4 that I run it clearly supports both Intel and AMD hardware
virtualization. Since I don't have the AMD processor to try it myself I
can't confirm. At any rate, if the 32 bit FreeBSD runs and satisfies your
needs why keep fiddling.
-Mike
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith<smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
[..]
> > > At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. I've got suspend-to-ram and
> > > suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to
> > > power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? Is powerd able to do
> > > its job just as well?
> >
> > The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some
> > APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state,
> > though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel.
> >
> > Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI.
>
> Ok. Just did a search to find out what CPU CX states were. For a
> good explanation of the CX states:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/006436.html
Good hunting; a good overview of current load/power handling on FreeBSD,
also posted to -mobile and/or -acpi as I recall.
> > Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels
> > sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM? If so, try
> > running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens.
>
> Yes they are. And powerd in verbose foreground mode shows that it is
> lowering the frequency all the way down to 75 MHz depending on the
> load. Cool.
At 75MHz, it should be :)
cheers, Ian
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Subject: Re: What should be backed up?
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Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:33 PM, John Almberg wrote:
>
>> I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a
>> FreeBSD 7.2 webserver:
>>
>> /etc
>> /usr/home
>> /usr/local
>> /var/cron
> Here is my exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf
>
> exclude /var/log
> exclude /var/tmp
> exclude /usr/obj
> exclude /usr/ports/distfiles
> exclude /usr/local/squid
>
> Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp
Yes, it's easy to miss something that should have been backed up. There
is no point in backup of files other than those you modify yourself,
unless you plan to create an exact image and recover using dd.
After installation you can do
# date > /tmp/TIMESTAMP
then you can create a list of files that have been modified after that
time with find,
# find / -newer /tmp/TIMESTAMP > /tmp/backupfilelist
If you have a backup cronjob, then you can use the same method to backup
only files modified since last backup.
On a base system with no services running, I'd restrict backup to
/etc
/home
If you've got any ports installed, add
/usr/local/etc
/var/db/ports
What else to add to the list really depends on which services you run,
named, mail, cvs, web, ftp, nis, etc. and if these have critical files
in other directories.
If you have any databases or ldap service, then you want to add those as
well, but it is recommended to dump these rather than backup the files
themselves.
I wouldn't backup source or the ports distribution, you have an online
backup available :) If you rely on a particular snapshot, then you
should configure that in your supfiles. But if you need to recover
without network access you should backup source and the ports tree as
well as distfiles or build packages whenever you install from ports and
keep those backed up.
BR, Erik
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Hello
Anybody knows how to install iwn-firmware on Freebsd 7.2 Stable?
(I need it for: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN)
I do not have /usr/ports/net/iwn-firmware dir since it is only in 8.0.
Is a way to install it and use that firmware? I've searched alot on
Google, but I did not find a howto for installation of wifi firmwares to
FreeBSD (other that with "make install" from ports, which is possible
only if I have the firmware for my freebsd).
I want to use a firmware from here:
http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=downloads&f=ucodes_4965
best regards
ovi
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Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then why
> can't I do a lookup right after named starts?
Possibly it's a delay in bind being ready or maybe you don't have any
network access - the latter is common with ppp.
> By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that
> ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not
> able to resolve the DNS for the time servers.
Try putting the following in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/waitfordns and make it
executable (untested)
#!/bin/sh
#
# PROVIDE: waitfordns
# REQUIRE: named
# BEFORE: ntpdate
. /etc/rc.subr
: ${waitfordns_enable:=yes}
name=waitfordns
rcvar=`set_rcvar`
stop_cmd=":"
start_cmd="waitfordns_start"
waitfordns_start(){
/usr/bin/dig +time=1 +retry=99 @127.0.0.1 google.com 2>&1 > /dev/null
}
load_rc_config ${name}
run_rc_command "$1"
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I have several jails running on my freebesd machine and lately it started to
crash when it gets a bit loaded. I followed the freebsd kernel debugging
manual, and got some output, but I have no idea what to do with it. The only
thing I think I understand of it that the bit that matters are just the two
last lines. Is there anyone that can help?
# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2
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This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...
Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
fault virtual address = 0x10
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21
stack pointer = 0x28:0xe9c879c4
frame pointer = 0x28:0xe9c879d8
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 18223 (libssl.so)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 1
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
fault virtual address = 0x6e727598
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08bf945
stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfaa8
frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfacc
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 30 (em1 taskq)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 1
Uptime: 12h20m45s
Physical memory: 3827 MB
Dumping 295 MB: 280 264 248 232 216 200 184 168 152 136 120 104 88 72 56 40
24 8
Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/acpi.ko...Reading symbols from
/boot/kernel/acpi.ko.symbols...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/acpi.ko
Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/linux.ko...Reading symbols from
/boot/kernel/linux.ko.symbols...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/linux.ko
Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/nullfs.ko...Reading symbols from
/boot/kernel/nullfs.ko.symbols...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/nullfs.ko
Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko...Reading symbols from
/boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko.symbols...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196
196 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td));
(kgdb)
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Thanks for the script. I found the underlying problem on my system.
My server is at a data center and I don't know what kind of equipment
the server is connected to. It appears that it takes 30 seconds for
the networking to start. I added this script as
/etc/rc.d/waitfornetwork, and enabled it in rc.conf:
===================
#!/bin/sh
# PROVIDE: waitfornetwork
# REQUIRE: NETWORKING
# BEFORE: named
. /etc/rc.subr
: ${waitfornetwork_enable:=NO}
name=waitfornetwork
rcvar=`set_rcvar`
stop_cmd=":"
start_cmd="waitfornetwork_start"
waitfornetwork_start()
{
echo "Waiting for network to initialize."
for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
#echo "Iteration $i"
if ping -c 1 198.41.0.4 | grep -q '^1 packets transmitted, 1
packets received, 0.0% packet loss'; then
break
fi
done
}
load_rc_config ${name}
run_rc_command "$1"
===================
It goes through 4 or 5 iterations (the "for" loop) before it exits.
This takes about 30 seconds. Without this startup script, ntpdate and
ntpd fail, regardless of whether or not I use named as my local DNS
caching server. With this script enabled, ntpdate and ntpd are able
to resolve the listed DNS for the time servers, regardless of whether
I'm using 127.0.0.1 or some other DNS in my resolv.conf.
This 30 second delay for the network to start on every reboot (at the
data center) - is this normal?
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One last question. I'm getting interesting [kernel?] messages during
bootup. You know, the kind that are highlighted white in the console.
The relevant lines of rc.conf look like this right now:
defaultrouter="64.156.192.1"
hostname="daffy.nerius.com"
ifconfig_em0="inet 64.156.192.169 netmask 255.255.255.0"
waitfornetwork_enable="YES"
named_enable="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
#ntpdate_enable="YES"
ntpd_enable="YES"
linux_enable="YES"
apache22_enable="YES"
mysql_enable="YES"
Early on in the bootup, the ifconfig shows for em0:
inet 64.156.192.169 ...
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
Then later on:
Waiting for network to initialize.
<highlighted>em0: link state changed to UP</highlighted>
<highlighted>calcru: runtime went backwards from 37332 usec to 16577
usec for pid 47 (sh)...</highlighted>
... (more messages about calcru)
And then everything starts fine, including ntpd.
Why is em0 only brought up when I do my ping command in
/etc/rc.d/waitfornetwork? And are these calcru messages something to
be worried about?
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> <highlighted>calcru: runtime went backwards from 37332 usec to 16577
> usec for pid 47 (sh)...</highlighted>
Not to seem like I'm talking to myself, but I fixed this problem:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#CALC=
RU-NEGATIVE-RUNTIME
(Turn off Intel=AE Enhanced SpeedStep.)
I am still bambuzzled by the network taking 30 seconds to come up.
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Nerius Landys wrote:
> I am still bambuzzled by the network taking 30 seconds to come up.
I don't remember the original description, but any time I hear about a
30 second "gap" during startup, I think of the well-known DNS reverse
look-up issue. Are you sure this is not the case here?
Robert Huff