From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 01:26:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C0D106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1283E8FC15 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2621CC1B; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:26:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4ABEBF36.1090507@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:26:14 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org, reko.turja@liukuma.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: No History after shutdown -h on FBSD 8 or 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:26:16 -0000 Aloha, Is there a reason the history no longer stays in memory on FreeBSD 8 & 9? Reko Turja sent me a work around for a reboot: shutdown -r +1 logout or shutdown -h +1 logout Both of the above work to save the history in a tcsh shell. We used to be able to use: shutdown -h now Is this not going to be possible from FreeBSD 8 onward? Thanks... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 05:24:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324A81065670 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com (mail-px0-f192.google.com [209.85.216.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062658FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so4908011pxi.7 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:24:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=cLoI6J1szsyS6E0CyAho3ugCrHTOPjQlafn3s7atm3o=; b=unDgocCqaU5D73g+FFs7I/wua79F2lRWjKdxFg9wPbc6ck9TSn5w0Xvbb4zHDImNpM JI1/nQsP7zn1GZ63GeuTKvnyVgPcFrBFufBN+ItqzKe5tdFrLGoUSU0um4SVtcOhVLDg UIvehe0KkrURdobcoYX0WjVH3XsZy4oUw5orI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=XkGJH95X9/dh1PGjmZ72LUVY1OyxEpX8GS8OgA9ADyMFK9G98a3X//iQuxRl8LZ9IJ XlhzKM2pGVNVwAadi74DnBTQcrBtM0hJyUTZq7v8mufMMkQGILB9vmffwMbnC82GaQsL 5dwR4D6oyoM0tTOVV7f5GvQuFd1pyHj4evuP4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.152.40 with SMTP id z40mr138691wfd.40.1254029071577; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:24:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <73A54F2D-CC7F-460F-BF62-09980F7C17C3@gmail.com> References: <73A54F2D-CC7F-460F-BF62-09980F7C17C3@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:24:31 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e37eeb7b005c2cba Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Anselm Strauss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting ZFS and GPT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:24:32 -0000 On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I've read and tried out that FreeBSD is able to boot from ZFS directly, > also with GPT partitions, through zfsboot and gptzfsboot. When I tried the > last time 8-CURRENT it was however not built into the release CD. Will this > be included in the final release image? Is there any plan to include GPT and > ZFS setup in sysinstall during an initial installation? > I am working on this, but it is a lot of work. Don't expect it anytime soon, as it involves ripping out libdisk and replacing it with libgeom. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 05:26:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACC1106568D for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com (mail-px0-f192.google.com [209.85.216.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4D08FC1A for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so4908757pxi.7 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=OIp7m7g02OshMW6/eiiPRtlGKaC5MeHW7f5xbCFreX0=; b=P178qIPmcC4Saz1j6YMySFpHpp4V9RozvqoRa8wGzn21Cgw0Ha2yVnAqAsgb/Z4f7v V+dJDEHQjba3XqyAgvHD2Yn3u8w41RgqZBovpm1VthEvQ21ek3ecO153MGbkkbBADsfh uX3IkDGBxweUumPqnvnNnNg3yTeSKqZkUf39I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=RldbJoor2hlR74iLOHqsZgEZMODTGjwJ/gKyhsW5w7hk2QPkLx1tkwg4WL4Wx5Pvgo JD3BHEVfruSKHUpbqa4dszeKFrkkv2/HkOj79rLg0MHTsgl7FD4kazp+47zAqYNobErb gCh9+L46LbIsmvdWvK5J5WAGZVld7qz6dZtCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.247.38 with SMTP id u38mr125305wfh.349.1254029200669; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <73A54F2D-CC7F-460F-BF62-09980F7C17C3@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:26:40 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e25a975e2fe8780 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anselm Strauss Subject: Re: Booting ZFS and GPT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:26:41 -0000 > To big a rewrite needed i think. Tell me about it. :P > I've heard of plans to potentially release > a graphical installer based on pc-bsd, which will do all the bells an > whistles. Not sure what stage its at though. > There's quite a few installer options that are around. bsdinstaller, then there's ivan's finstall. I've never used either of them. AFAIK, there aren't any graphical installers in the works that are 'based on pc-bsd'. I also seriously doubt these will make it to the official iso's. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 05:30:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223F8106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E562C8FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so1659946pzk.7 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:30:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=C+MBpNrjFXAxdnG7Q7mUQWFVa4jqKpoE22XMGX/olVs=; b=Tv3/zOYJ5XR6biimue7tXmtcF9rs6tjS9eWNbA2s1cAwrq6Iik3z9XV83pA+bnvlRN aolxn3i0C/pyknjVr9Ut3Q0zf3cZNz5+1EJLFigenldPR4gorKD2+ohg75geNvlkglTC nFciHBGPiCOImpYap+nbFcryGfYuayeiIg2Js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=IUL+7Nqj0AKCTaG+hvb/lc1JOBSXNxbaIRXO/vpndl6bR9M57vUX5jzlI86VKaPuRZ eVA5wGEKRPTR+PvnXXs622xWL7meFcujGvzVE3TDW3AcGPOzB52/o+WxTHv0Gi0fN3b9 OoJJfWloRDVi8HhRz6gs46UnFlyR0LGnb7FdE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.3.5 with SMTP id 5mr146277wfc.327.1254029406008; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:30:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <73A54F2D-CC7F-460F-BF62-09980F7C17C3@gmail.com> <3069EFD8-F215-4DFC-8124-459198CE6C53@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:30:05 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1f5a31dac29519e2 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anselm Strauss Subject: Re: Booting ZFS and GPT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:07 -0000 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:01 AM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > I hope our developers see fit to make sysinstall > zfs aware, but I hope we are not pushed (I know > how to kick and my screams are deafening) into > using it any time soon: ufs is wonderful for us > ordinary computer users. > Getting libgeom support is what is currently being worked on. ZFS is probably quite a ways down the road unless someone else steps up to help out. That said, sysinstall is the beast that no one else wants to touch, so don't expect this anytime soon. I'm hoping to have this done (or at least mostly done) by 9. FWIW, I'll kick and scream before sysinstall defaults to zfs. I'm currently planning on making zfs/gpt/etc only available from expert mode. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 07:38:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447FB106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@ch23.org) Received: from authsmtp.register.it (paganini11-authsmtp.register.it [81.88.48.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDA48FC2D for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28692 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 07:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.112?) (smtp@ch23.org@82.60.234.157) by authsmtp.register.it with ESMTPA; 27 Sep 2009 07:11:45 -0000 Message-ID: <4ABF1030.4060103@ch23.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:11:44 +0200 From: Mauro Rezzonico Organization: Channel23 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help configuring sendmail to send only using authorization to smart host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:38:28 -0000 Mark Willson wrote: > Phusion wrote: >> I need some help configuring sendmail to send only using authorization >> to a smart host being the ISP's mail server. I'm running 7.2-RELEASE. Use /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/clientproto.mc (Instructions in the README files) -- Mauro Rezzonico , Como, Italia "Maybe this world is another planet's hell" - H.Huxley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 13:01:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AAF1065676 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69CB38FC15 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91689 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2009 13:01:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254056482; bh=VOn7F1/Y+aw+wUzhehtq7gwFb+JHD/XwjjAGaybyxMo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SbVT9EEPa0r7bZFGWPqJy6rKYqK83m2X2vBndxA9HcWzO1xWiAKymOt9VZKZx1AdgVjEftNyG3XTKjFVPPAkcxp84Wq+BR2o2gJLRWM3tkRV7mXh0fTOwZ7P/lkXb6raJpF0CCvC2JpgjA+YnhDw9biFy8aqPSGc9VmmJXdduh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r7d2iKwifHlcevRnUcapVs/PBli6TWz8nGGevHVnk2csNXM0Z5JQryWcL8L+zeuYRP0/tnRnQh9KfwtqpDAMHh6Tg4oru1D3IGoXwQ4pJ1dR0Nh4OoyeUtyNPtXwVRVAPVq3Ff4h0ggpVIfCzr41+AXdjB4zjjkeIIiRPRhddL4=; Message-ID: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: In9kUeUVM1lcYgX6Rq3xgSJ6JOXawzhClZVQM_.1By4WZM0p1n6uYQKLeMyBUxSyDDbnMkFXD29c2FTfr7GxNISzTksycJ4UPBRHIoAbHGjsjstw9Sm3iHcwgL0uP4Y8mLrrFE2zXOQhRcecTHQ0bMFe.sQhKuMo_UbTkDes1Q6mwVlqxTfWx_9r_q_NWHiT2Yh8ocRfKqzZIUppR.0etzpPUytzMAalEjOhyMc0p6y7qYy9WrWuknWRK51gmZzCcHMq7rK8dWOtHJLgJDrBj2_6_dq.8TCzy77.Ohbx.dCw0B.xReOA7YaeKqvI5XCj4428eS4- Received: from [71.7.223.226] by web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:56:04 +0000 Subject: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:01:23 -0000 Hi, I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 13:59:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19AF106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A99B8FC22 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MruHx-00060a-RK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:59:45 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.11.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:59:45 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:59:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:00:08 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20090926140646.12921239@scorpio.seibercom.net> <4ABE6B5A.7030305@fechner.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Warning: PHP Update from 5.2.10 to 5.2.11 and FastCGI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:50 -0000 Matthias Fechner wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Michael Powell schrieb: >> patch I got. I use cvsup11 because it closest to me (in the Verizon >> datacenter in Ashland, Va.) but I have had that server go stale before. >> Might try csupping ports again from something a little higher up in the >> hierarchy. > > why not using portsnap? > > Bye > Matthias First rule of maintenance: "If it ain't broke don't fix it". I tend to stick with what has worked well in the past, even though at some point the move towards more current approaches does indeed need to happen. I checked and this had nothing to do with cvsup11 being stale. Same code as mirrored elsewhere. Did find problem, see other reply. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:05:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7026E106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BA18FC0A for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MruN4-0007MT-MA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:05:02 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.11.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:05:02 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:03:37 -0400 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20090926140646.12921239@scorpio.seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Warning: PHP Update from 5.2.10 to 5.2.11 and FastCGI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:05:04 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > Jerry wrote: [snip] >> >> No problems on my machines. >> >> PHP 5.2.11 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: Sep 24 2009 19:08:59) >> Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group >> Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2009 Zend Technologies >> [snip] > > Will look into it a little more later. The error I got was periodically a > PHP bug on and off for years. I think there is something wrong with the > patch I got. I use cvsup11 because it closest to me (in the Verizon > datacenter in Ashland, Va.) but I have had that server go stale before. > Might try csupping ports again from something a little higher up in the > hierarchy. > Found the problem. The mailheader patch for 5.2.10 clashes with the Suhosin patch for 5.2.11. I rebuilt PHP with Suhosin and without mailheader patch and now it's all happy again. Now my php -v reads like Jerry's. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:25:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DDC1065670 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EAD8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mrugh-00067t-G0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:25:19 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.11.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:25:19 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:25:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:25:40 -0400 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:25:23 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal > users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on > other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. I > am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a > matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different > mail servers? Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > > Thank you This is, of course, my own personal bias here but I wouldn't touch qmail with a ten foot pole. I know many have used it successfully and been happy with it. It is very easy to begin with a single domain for local delivery to configure sendmail as per the instructions in the Handbook. Postfix is designed to be a drop in replacement for Sendmail, and for a simple Sendmail already configured, Postfix will just take over and work when installed. Additions such as MySQL for virtual domains and users, spamd, etc., can then be plugged in to the basic setup one at a time. There is a pretty fair amount of documentation in the Postfix world for such things. If you are looking to change out Sendmail my vote would be Postfix as it is easier to build on and build up from the setup you're currently using. However, I'd like to point out if you have only one mail server you probably should do this on a second duplicate machine and then once it is proved to work properly swap them. There is a pretty good chance if you only have one mail server you're going to take it down while mucking about. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:36:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111C71065672 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A95948FC19 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33214 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 14:35:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zUhH9VzqCbbWD/Tca2IrXxPa6LhhctKlPk6y5Bs6xXo9T+DPpTGdqFjsZqRjJp7UNMwmFcU4hwf9ykUSjpSUZ16TifRw2COzGVefNQIZJ/cddctXh33pqh7+zaAw7ZF6A5YhI+4jwgwCokwNKFrX0Sp66p8IjHR3zkilcFQwn9Y= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2009 07:35:58 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: LB9CH6MVM1kVGrpK_UtqqtmCIg_gsB56hozKKlxAuy4nvWklkLs90.9c3o4i5XwD0HUWlbFIzrwUkYSdkEA2B2pDzv4C7t_ynZbWCtz22oH_sG9DLJIfVXxY6dMCC9dN4fdvqOy0deux1ynLVmE5oihlkX.6sKdGSdbgI9FNSsyIuZMdfJSegemN5NARVs6z2Oen4ClGHgJOwC31spPdXY0P.smWFkn1Z_KqxNxYgC0Ni_BGq9OsxI18.FQm.S75moTDdBnHSrZ1ZQx2PQSvrhrnuxRlEtDjP_QN2cLhDJsptA944sjP2BkkK3nen7ezYbXjLPCwNB8c7BS373RWb9oZfJOXiOiurQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 619B42280B for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:35:58 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927103558.7c2ec652@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:36:00 -0000 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only > internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, > but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other > programs are suggested. I am wondering if qmail is thought to be > better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and > functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? Any > suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? Qmail is not, nor has it been, actively supported for years. Personally, I use Postfix. Is is far easier IMHO to configure that Sendmail and it is actively supported. The developer regularly answers questions on the Postfix forum. Amavisd-new works fine with Postfix. You might want to stay away from MailScanner though. The Postfix author discourages its use and Postfix does not support it. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Every cloud has a silver lining; you should have sold it, and bought titanium. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:37:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D504F1065670 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62FBB8FC0C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33444 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 14:37:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ORD9r7nYiM8pBTMKsNBEIoFj7Hi/jdwAFlBwkMmNNPglwcUhUeXFKEUWCUnv7dnDq0R38GRKWwzMEvUYdXqIGaPpJI0rqcaAkdXu2dJFa/oW2cW6Btl1F8zB+i3ANqQN/n9+RhhjFc2P49i467sXrIZUOTSjejQOyPDgC3PMsyM= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2009 07:37:33 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: WXUrPQYVM1lq0XdE1YkjM86cWeNteydDrIlr..HX7pPUcyWJLaUfonelopit9JzLcQRCr5JEmRVqMXdzqn3jijz_LgubKqBNpBtnZacWZzXH.zapFGOmp3.yroOl1yc9fBysYdGV8p3HJQq9clqO2srCQIaHs1XDJ33IF164SZ6Ro7AepBxUglBXi4p9gjDwn2paSk3QKxKlkjzM2DPIaiSHxpf4Ln4i_0iObHUZxn6vzrQIby.JUnUcWrj05xbCjcr2bxgz_6Wl9DfFz34dKi4c.AHc4Bbs0ioaf6N6FjKgVNmZD2RyycqB9oZImNknXVQpdXcovQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78D302280B for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:37:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927103733.79d8f75e@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20090926140646.12921239@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Warning: PHP Update from 5.2.10 to 5.2.11 and FastCGI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:34 -0000 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:03:37 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > Found the problem. The mailheader patch for 5.2.10 clashes with the > Suhosin patch for 5.2.11. I rebuilt PHP with Suhosin and without > mailheader patch and now it's all happy again. Now my php -v reads > like Jerry's. Did you file a PR for this? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Remembering is for those who have forgotten. Chinese proverb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:37:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C910656DE for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF2A8FC17 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1D861C1A67; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABF78C2.9090203@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:37:54 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:37:56 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? Qmail has a very limited set of features, it is simple efficient and pretty easy to setup, and has a track record as a secure alternative to sendmail. Postfix I think is the flexible and popular alternative to sendmail. It supports most if not all of sendmail features and easily integrates with a number of filtering solutions as well as imap and ldap servers. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:38:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECB21065696 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B898FC0A for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27917 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 14:38:29 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Sep 2009 14:38:29 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B8D508BE; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CEF251CC7A; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:38:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Aflatoon Aflatooni's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44bpkw1mhu.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:38:30 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? I wouldn't ever recommend changing mail servers if you have a working setup that you're satisfied with. spamassassin works well with pretty much any MTA, as far as I'm aware. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 14:42:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49892106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E668FC1C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mruxh-0002yD-6e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:53 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.11.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:53 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:43:14 -0400 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <20090926140646.12921239@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20090927103733.79d8f75e@scorpio.seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Warning: PHP Update from 5.2.10 to 5.2.11 and FastCGI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:42:54 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:03:37 -0400 > Michael Powell wrote: > >> Found the problem. The mailheader patch for 5.2.10 clashes with the >> Suhosin patch for 5.2.11. I rebuilt PHP with Suhosin and without >> mailheader patch and now it's all happy again. Now my php -v reads >> like Jerry's. > > Did you file a PR for this? > I emailed the port maintainer. Think I should formally file the PR too? Thanks. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 15:22:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EDC1065679 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A98F8FC23 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MrvZp-000498-1h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:22:17 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.11.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:22:17 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:22:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <20090926140646.12921239@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20090927103733.79d8f75e@scorpio.seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-11-122.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Warning: PHP Update from 5.2.10 to 5.2.11 and FastCGI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:22:21 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:03:37 -0400 > Michael Powell wrote: > >> Found the problem. The mailheader patch for 5.2.10 clashes with the >> Suhosin patch for 5.2.11. I rebuilt PHP with Suhosin and without >> mailheader patch and now it's all happy again. Now my php -v reads >> like Jerry's. > > Did you file a PR for this? > Done. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 15:23:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE2B1065676 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5B38FC33 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9A15736D; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:22:32 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=rCbuGiNId/RECE/aRzxGaZ45HnOk/ED 0w4xcz2wjlqc=; b=QsHAdu8Vs1q3cWRfFy8X0E2a5VFb2b/oxLSqRjFXuzbJPq8 tBJeyGU/e7tylqTgfXs1brxX09TD6O5MvQcYwbQzUyv88YTUkAs9hBu8hH2NMBuQ QRLL4zbSiLUR2SCpJI1+MPRZdsrXH8Vs1Hlwlw1Ld33TXEschUw74L6S66fA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=soyeomul; b=mP kPZZDQUrJG8fd73yxRgeAtFxRhc9Pc9QlKY5nZWMYDcF4vyknm9cuFODtYdbaa5U Ykqw539H2sGj+0N5aOKsiTvfxxU71Qd072tfrbnNEhM7V8YdU9fO2KsI+2CXOddL zvyDEED9z5GfqO29FSCrs2TKAgzW0M0HXCTVz5qas= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C7D5736A; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:22:32 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA821CD6F; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:22:45 +0900 (KST) From: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr (=?utf-8?B?54mb57Kl?=) To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:25:04 +0900 In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Aflatoon Aflatooni's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <86iqf45s1b.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:23:19 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? Qmail is old. And there is no maintainer for qmail. How about Postfix? Personally i'm running Postfix on three FreeBSD box. Sincerely, -- "But I can see you don't take me seriously." -- Tom Hagen, "Chapter 1", page 61 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 15:45:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FF4106566B for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF6D58FC14 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Sep 2009 15:45:52 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 27 Sep 2009 17:45:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/BFjB1TwzB5i79MvEFA/Roen7CM/iH8i0dkbQAo5 5sF8VJ2sW9DCKo Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:48:46 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927154846.GA17667@sandcat> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <86iqf45s1b.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86iqf45s1b.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:45:55 -0000 I personally prefer postfix too. It seems to be a relieable program, setting it up is easier then sendmail. It also integrates well with mailman (for the case you want to host mailing lists). Some basic comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers Cheers herb langhans On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:25:04AM +0900, ?????? wrote: > Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > > > Hi, > > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? > > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > Qmail is old. And there is no maintainer for qmail. How about Postfix? > Personally i'm running Postfix on three FreeBSD box. > > Sincerely, > > -- > "But I can see you don't take me seriously." > -- Tom Hagen, "Chapter 1", page 61 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 16:03:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1667C106568B for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FB1E8FC1A for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Sep 2009 16:03:19 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 27 Sep 2009 18:03:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//KNwVktT/aCkS5veyGMnE2E/mTlcsKSXj+xJKo9 TwPb6qHpMhKZdt Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:06:12 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927160612.GB17738@sandcat> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <86iqf45s1b.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> <20090927154846.GA17667@sandcat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090927154846.GA17667@sandcat> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.77 Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:03:21 -0000 Yes. What about bogofilter. This port is smart, I always wonder how intelligent it dedects spam, just by the content. Even works with Chinese messages.. Setting it up requires some time and patience (its a filter what plugs in at procmail). But its small and efficient, ideal for mailservers. http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Cheers herb langhans > > > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 16:34:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9D51065670 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83BB68FC1C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Sep 2009 16:34:15 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 27 Sep 2009 18:34:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+XqGdx0vSX+JfMalD1roIH0FYO6O1ZXrlqONbQrX jvY0IQe+c/AkLB Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:37:08 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: Kenneth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927163708.GA17935@sandcat> References: <27184812.1252902383777.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27184812.1252902383777.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.7 Cc: Subject: Re: ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:34:17 -0000 My Atheros PCMCIA-card went crazy with the HAL-port enabled. For the case you use HAL.. Cheers herb langhans On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:26:23AM -0400, Kenneth wrote: > Anyone been able to use the ath driver on an atheros 5424/2424? I have a Compaq Presario CQ60 and can not get the wireless light to turn blue? -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 16:42:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153C91065672 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sserre.bx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932EC8FC15 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so2272930ewy.36 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=W16qTY4pHfDdnuA/iUcVtP23jY98ALqHRctgBOXQBcU=; b=JXyHH8IE9y9/CCNSBhiPoz2M1MFhvoczlwXpj4QezYyP0DS5cJ0I2iUHDsFDBBaaK2 +q9jEee9R6pUlSbypz/7EM35W7f+gKIXNP8Rv0wwL/c3vXm0hDyMghyRQWSeL93NjZqp yOS0vTcs3Cd4FAQF0sv50iR2gyzwor4jJ3kZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=v8Rs/A6uZQhGiVjEActej8DCrBwydQoxOewmuduNnRwCrYhH0thJuot+jOIgpHVWsM dYUtIWoZaRMRSQ1G1cNeXo3jRG5IlRbN/zpPLt5hNTQ+XS/KuS9Li/Sxt9r+bGgyU0/O 4XSebSGuByDYEWQ/tJeYH0wCqMWEQJR4FqHnk= Received: by 10.211.160.1 with SMTP id m1mr2100999ebo.50.1254068267206; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mentha.officinalis.lan (85-170-126-61.rev.numericable.fr [85.170.126.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm4798eyz.34.2009.09.27.09.17.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=E9bastien_Serre?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:17:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200909271817.22176.sserre.bx@gmail.com> Subject: tap interface problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:42:51 -0000 Hello, I hope somebody here known well tap interfaces on freebsd :). I try to configure virtualbox with bridge interface. Everything seams ok: # ifconfig tap0 tap0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:bd:4f:0a:00:00 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 # ls -l /dev/tap0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 109 Sep 27 16:54 /dev/tap0 The problem is that nothing pass in the tap0 interface. tcpdump does not show any traffic when I try to connect a machine on the 192.168 network. I can ping the interface address (192.168.0.1). But without with the use of the tap itself (use of lo0): # route -n get 192.168.0.1 route to: 192.168.0.1 destination: 192.168.0.1 interface: lo0 flags: recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec rttvar hopcount mtu expire 0 0 0 0 0 0 16384 0 Then i have a tap interface up, but i can't pass to it any traffic. Does anybody have a suggestion, or know some debugging tools to show what append? Thanks Sebovick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 17:05:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46D8106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749F18FC15 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vdsl-151-118-130-25.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.130.25] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Mrwg0-000F87-Mg; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:32:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.244] (firewall.mikestammer.com [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric@mikestammer.com) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F67310957; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:31:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.130.25 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/UedJgdBgg2RgKPMZ3UvCNAnsEbZfNoMw= Message-ID: <4ABF93B3.9030604@mikestammer.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:32:51 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: herbert langhans References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <86iqf45s1b.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> <20090927154846.GA17667@sandcat> <20090927160612.GB17738@sandcat> In-Reply-To: <20090927160612.GB17738@sandcat> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:05:40 -0000 On 9/27/2009 10:06 AM, herbert langhans wrote: > Yes. What about bogofilter. This port is smart, I always wonder how intelligent it dedects spam, just by the content. Even works with Chinese messages.. > > Setting it up requires some time and patience (its a filter what plugs in at procmail). But its small and efficient, ideal for mailservers. > > http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ > > Cheers > herb langhans > >>>> Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? dspam works very well for me across several sites From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 19:14:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83C7106568D for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sserre.bx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D4B8FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so2346152ewy.36 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:14:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=hnoPlSFNQulLBNMP0y991UgehHkZzmUVYETrXuQXVfw=; b=R2J6orWUMuHBjyJxCy4eyb+9TbnWoMlMqjje0WA5FfUZD3I7yb3YoqZ79VO//ka2Nx R974tVJDNfdkYDj2WljkFjcjxUuimTxy5lRxG8GbK2jkYo43dQZmreITQ0pUDeplBcyB kGwi5YGeEbkHTLJkaroMH90Iqvjip5pKDjmps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=vUEsa3apFrXc/iCBtaFDcW41I2+6qzvzxGVjzunjqbgPZODqBHYcqdRqkC+inhJ1gd rgp5oXNq7yUntENY7vw5LbLI/4p+7Czf2iGq1OrGpZQUxAF4fQbH0iULoy2SrjFFoVwK NMsH6vxeKcBtfMBEYiJToN668A0aFPRqjCx08= Received: by 10.211.131.11 with SMTP id i11mr2214090ebn.68.1254078842384; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mentha.officinalis.lan (85-170-126-61.rev.numericable.fr [85.170.126.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm220276eyb.12.2009.09.27.12.14.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=E9bastien_Serre?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:13:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.1; i386; ; ) References: <200909271817.22176.sserre.bx@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200909271817.22176.sserre.bx@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200909272113.38035.sserre.bx@gmail.com> Subject: Re: tap interface problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:14:04 -0000 On Sunday 27 September 2009 18:17:22 S=E9bastien Serre wrote: > Hello, I hope somebody here known well tap interfaces on freebsd :). >=20 > I try to configure virtualbox with bridge interface. Everything seams ok: > # ifconfig tap0 >=20 > tap0: flags=3D8943 metric= 0 > mtu 1500 > ether 00:bd:4f:0a:00:00 > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 >=20 > # ls -l /dev/tap0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 109 Sep 27 16:54 /dev/tap0 >=20 > The problem is that nothing pass in the tap0 interface. tcpdump does not > show any traffic when I try to connect a machine on the 192.168 network.= I > can ping the interface address (192.168.0.1). But without with the use of > the tap itself (use of lo0): >=20 > # route -n get 192.168.0.1 > route to: 192.168.0.1 > destination: 192.168.0.1 > interface: lo0 > flags: > recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec rttvar hopcount mtu > expire > 0 0 0 0 0 0 16384 = =20 > 0 >=20 >=20 > Then i have a tap interface up, but i can't pass to it any traffic. > Does anybody have a suggestion, or know some debugging tools to show what > append? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Sebovick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 Me again, I can now listen something on tap0: # tcpdump -i tap0 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on tap0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 21:08:22.668835 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 21:08:23.668526 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 21:08:24.668272 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 21:08:25.671499 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.101 is my virtual machine trying to ping the host address of the = tap=20 interface. The host did not reply. When I try to ping the guest from the host, tcpdump stay silent. So the tap interface is ok for the guest, but the host don't know how to ta= lk=20 against tap. Any idea? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 19:26:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C477A106568B for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4B58FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2810971bwz.43 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:26:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=78DPiPZ6TQIB7btRdz0P6Hw3vaHFG08TZ9lMrCueqvg=; b=l+DVqPzNgKwQocTWTUgkpfF/XJCTzzOTYlr3EQzbUer4e8h5ZFnc+eFydlG5xx/op0 DUqVvyWdmozHLrYam7QvVw6edvopW9dHHgExyy/x3wrgVltGRjJ4umZjphoSXZUPbFeU ZQNB6XSnAE4YmVuix9mfEknmxH8TXVxehCHTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HJKm8j3ixTlVLNUf5+4U9+PtyMkucfVu4hPACD9YtBkCx3r1/R0P7VMSVDz0s8f83h ER2wErHqzHQmwPtsQzCdj2Xu8yghYslpNkvuGMeraLTeWi5lBq6B3BzzQwPWvGWkDQ+j 2mf+pjp2tcMZewfMn1xnitey/QE3pO7Q0B8r4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.20 with SMTP id j20mr2296114bkd.57.1254079570119; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:26:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:25:50 +0100 Message-ID: To: Saifi Khan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:26:11 -0000 2009/9/25 Saifi Khan : > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > > > i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD >> > > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.= html >> > > > >> > > > What could be the reason for that ? >> > > >> > > Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle. >> > > IE wave money under Oracle's nose & ask to purchase what you want. >> > > >> > > If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD >> > > consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Julian >> > > -- >> > >> > i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ? >> >> Most unlikely. Ask Oracle & tell advocacy@ what you find out. >> I'd bet perceived market share & demand as ever, ie Money. >> > > Hi Julian: > > Here is the response on the Oracle forum thread to my posting, > > > """ > FreeBSD is a kernel not used in any extant operating system with > the sole exception being Apple's Mac OSX so you are heading, > full speed ahead, toward disappointment. And this is where he gives away that he knows nothing about it. In the first sentence, he shows that he thinks that Mac OS X uses the FreeBSD kernel. (Which is wrong, in case you were wondering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) ) > FreeBSD handles many > things very differently from the UNIX System 5 standard so you > can not just kludge your way into this. What? > > What fascinates me about your request is why you care. FreeBSD > is going nowhere at a staggeringly fast pace. And to the same > place as went Oracle Database version 8.0. Obscurity. What? > > Install Oracle's Enterprise Linux and you will have a real > operating system in less time than you've spent monitoring this > thead. And as an additional value it will support the Oracle > technology stack while you are still young enough to use it. > """ > > and > """ > IF you can match up the system calls, then you can 'make it > work'. > """ > > The relevant =A0links are > 1. =A0http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3D952076&tstar= t=3D0 > 2. =A0http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3D952076&tstar= t=3D0 > > The response seems to suggest that there is some feature used by > Oracle which is expected from a UNIX Sys 5 std and perhaps > FreeBSD does not support/have the syscall. > > Given the response, What is your analysis of the situation ? > > > thanks > Saifi. > This guy replying to your post was a troll, basically. Ignore him, and concentrate on real Oracle employees for sources. Of course, if this was an Oracle employee, then you really should think about using some different software.... Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 20:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189DC106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from sv4.hmnoc.net (sv4.hmnoc.net [63.247.76.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B588FC17 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [187.78.189.90] (port=52191 helo=papi.localnet) by sv4.hmnoc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ms0gv-0007fZ-0B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:49:57 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:51:02 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RC1; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <200909271817.22176.sserre.bx@gmail.com> <200909272113.38035.sserre.bx@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200909272113.38035.sserre.bx@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200909271751.02530.mlobo@digiart.art.br> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sv4.hmnoc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - digiart.art.br Subject: Re: tap interface problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:49:58 -0000 On Sunday 27 September 2009 16:13:38 S=E9bastien Serre wrote: > On Sunday 27 September 2009 18:17:22 S=E9bastien Serre wrote: > > Hello, I hope somebody here known well tap interfaces on freebsd :). > > > > I try to configure virtualbox with bridge interface. Everything seams o= k: > > # ifconfig tap0 > > > > tap0: flags=3D8943 metr= ic 0 > > mtu 1500 > > ether 00:bd:4f:0a:00:00 > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > # ls -l /dev/tap0 > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 109 Sep 27 16:54 /dev/tap0 > > > > The problem is that nothing pass in the tap0 interface. tcpdump does not > > show any traffic when I try to connect a machine on the 192.168 networ= k. > > I can ping the interface address (192.168.0.1). But without with the use > > of the tap itself (use of lo0): > > > > # route -n get 192.168.0.1 > > route to: 192.168.0.1 > > destination: 192.168.0.1 > > interface: lo0 > > flags: > > recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec rttvar hopcount mtu > > expire > > 0 0 0 0 0 0 16384 > > 0 > > > > > > Then i have a tap interface up, but i can't pass to it any traffic. > > Does anybody have a suggestion, or know some debugging tools to show wh= at > > append? > > > > Thanks > > > > Sebovick > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > Me again, >=20 > I can now listen something on tap0: >=20 > # tcpdump -i tap0 > tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode > listening on tap0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes > 21:08:22.668835 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > 21:08:23.668526 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > 21:08:24.668272 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > 21:08:25.671499 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 >=20 > 192.168.0.101 is my virtual machine trying to ping the host address of the > tap interface. The host did not reply. > When I try to ping the guest from the host, tcpdump stay silent. >=20 > So the tap interface is ok for the guest, but the host don't know how to > talk against tap. Any idea? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 is the brige0 interface up too?=20 =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FRE= E) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 21:09:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA6D106566C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D84A8FC0C for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lwXs1c0080EZKEL5Ex9ek5; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:09:38 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lx9c1c00E1f6R9u3Mx9dBm; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:09:38 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:09:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:09:35 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090927210934.GA85077@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:09:38 -0000 On Sun 27 Sep 2009 at 12:25:50 PDT Chris Rees wrote: >This guy replying to your post was a troll, basically. Ignore him, and Yep. It shows that some Linux fans are just as prone to creating FUD as their adversaries in the Windows world. I'd like to think the BSD community is better than that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 21:32:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9A71065670 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sserre.bx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666038FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so2416302ewy.36 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:32:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=uVn0K4P+lSbAp9o3IAj4eyC+rDwJbsSNJcWkHluuPUU=; b=uFE3kmFgG/uvzclnf8P84iVQXNo0kdaVk9KbnzT18t64YFP0qzHEKrb75RHMCcA6qT nTdwqMzNHpL8eX0ZEejjixgnnaueAzJujI+/rWRNWmfF0wj3B3IFkReLzcCFOBIoPqxw bi0y3NVhm/mJy1aUotyMLidhVfuMXP5V7dag4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=B9IM6HPZylBYQ94D5+54URXmDzhe4iAIUYHnPRysAGyJXKlP1/Uey/S0Wt3j41vi1H stHo1L4z6zh6tyR4VmncKTIeTXLauMrPRI9NiM67aoseqD3pC+ZPdeVSOn/CYub2ku7T GrwbNKELRl0nrgQm0CMLPti5g8JIf6Dgj+4GE= Received: by 10.211.158.8 with SMTP id k8mr2900084ebo.38.1254087136215; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mentha.officinalis.lan (85-170-126-61.rev.numericable.fr [85.170.126.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm278928eyb.44.2009.09.27.14.32.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=E9bastien_Serre?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:31:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.1; i386; ; ) References: <200909271817.22176.sserre.bx@gmail.com> <200909272113.38035.sserre.bx@gmail.com> <200909271751.02530.mlobo@digiart.art.br> In-Reply-To: <200909271751.02530.mlobo@digiart.art.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200909272331.51386.sserre.bx@gmail.com> Subject: Re: tap interface problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:32:17 -0000 On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:51:02 Mario Lobo wrote: > On Sunday 27 September 2009 16:13:38 S=E9bastien Serre wrote: > > On Sunday 27 September 2009 18:17:22 S=E9bastien Serre wrote: > > > Hello, I hope somebody here known well tap interfaces on freebsd :). > > > > > > I try to configure virtualbox with bridge interface. Everything seams > > > ok: # ifconfig tap0 > > > > > > tap0: flags=3D8943 me= tric > > > 0 mtu 1500 > > > ether 00:bd:4f:0a:00:00 > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > > > # ls -l /dev/tap0 > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 109 Sep 27 16:54 /dev/tap0 > > > > > > The problem is that nothing pass in the tap0 interface. tcpdump does > > > not show any traffic when I try to connect a machine on the 192.168 > > > network. I can ping the interface address (192.168.0.1). But without > > > with the use of the tap itself (use of lo0): > > > > > > # route -n get 192.168.0.1 > > > route to: 192.168.0.1 > > > destination: 192.168.0.1 > > > interface: lo0 > > > flags: > > > recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec rttvar hopcount mtu > > > expire > > > 0 0 0 0 0 0 16384 > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > Then i have a tap interface up, but i can't pass to it any traffic. > > > Does anybody have a suggestion, or know some debugging tools to show > > > what append? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Sebovick > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Me again, > > > > I can now listen something on tap0: > > > > # tcpdump -i tap0 > > tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol > > decode listening on tap0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 > > bytes 21:08:22.668835 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > > 21:08:23.668526 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > > 21:08:24.668272 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > > 21:08:25.671499 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.101 > > > > 192.168.0.101 is my virtual machine trying to ping the host address of > > the tap interface. The host did not reply. > > When I try to ping the guest from the host, tcpdump stay silent. > > > > So the tap interface is ok for the guest, but the host don't know how to > > talk against tap. Any idea? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > is the brige0 interface up too? >=20 Hello, Yes it is. tcpdump see packets on bridge0 to. I jus have a doubt. I'm tryin= g=20 to connect the bridge to a physical interface that is not used (no carrier)= =2E=20 re0: flags=3D8943 metric 0 = mtu=20 1500 options=3D3898 ether 00:1f:d0:8e:79:5f inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier It is up, but status is nocarrier and media is none. I think it can be the= =20 problem. bridge0 contain re0 ant tap0, packets can be logged with tcpdump on tap0 an= d=20 bridge0, re0 don't work. I will try tomarrow again. Thanks for your suggestion :). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 01:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D01065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67A18FC19 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n8S1bnSX030705 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:37:49 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n8S1bmbS030704; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:37:48 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id D04F9BE4C; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:34:36 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (message from Aflatoon Aflatooni on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT)) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:51 -0000 >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), >> Aflatoon Aflatooni said: A> I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only A> internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail... First things first: if you're happy with Sendmail and your system works to your satisfaction, I'd leave it be. Just watch your logs and keep an eye out for security patches. A> I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. There are fanboys on all three sides of that question ("yes", "no", and "qmail bites, use this-other-MTA instead"). I switched from sendmail to qmail on a server because I had an odd corner case that qmail happened to handle just about perfectly. I also botched a qmail install on my own workstation, didn't feel like finding out what I did wrong, and decided to install Postfix instead. I've had fine experiences with both qmail and Postfix. If you're using a system that's a little under-powered, you might appreciate Dr. Bernstein's efforts to make qmail and its supporting tools *very* frugal with OS resources. If you're used to the sendmail way of doing things, you'd probably be better off with Postfix. I like Dr. Bernstein's programming approach, but be prepared to spend time getting used to his way of setting up network daemons, etc. It's internally consistent but *very* different. It takes me 30-40 minutes to install all of the qmail stuff from source because I've done it at least 6 or 7 times; I could probably cut that in half if I didn't save build and installation outputs for my logs. My first time took most of a weekend to figure out what was going on. A> Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? I tried SA a few years ago, and it was a little heavy-weight for my filtering needs. I use a simple Bayesian filter (ifile) trained on around 100,000 spams plus some procmail rules, and I get along fine. Your mileage will vary. I saw some other comments: >> Qmail is not, nor has it been, actively supported for years. Depends on what you mean by support. The user community is very active; have a look at http://www.ornl.gov/lists/mailing-lists/qmail/ if you doubt it. OTOH, said community can be a bit, um, brusque, but the Qmail Handbook and the "Life with Qmail" webpage filled in the blanks for me. >> Qmail has a very limited set of features... It's intended to handle one problem well, which it does. If you have some other requirements, http://www.qmail.org/ probably has a plugin that will do what you want. OK, now let's settle which text editor is best. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company They say marriages are made in heaven. So is thunder and lightning. --Clint Eastwood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 01:56:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9293B106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589948FC0C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n8S1uQAG040830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:56:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8S1uPU3055025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:56:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8S1uPKC055021; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:56:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:56:25 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20090928015625.GK29215@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4ABDFAE5.2090505@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ABDFAE5.2090505@onetel.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:56:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: lacie external hard drive supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:56:27 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 26), Chris Whitehouse said: > Hi all > > Does anyone have experience of a LaCie Hard Disk, Design by Neil Poulton > eSATA, FireWire 400 & Hi-Speed USB 2.0 1TB ? > > http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?pid=11064 > > Are all the interfaces supported? The data sheet says it is supported > under Linux. Does that mean it is safe to assume it is under FreeBSD? In general, you can assume that any SATA/SAS/firewire/usb hard drive will be supported. The only thing that might not be supported is RAID array management for the more expensive external units (you'll still be able to acess the data though). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 02:55:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAA51065670; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from mail.jumbuck.com (p82.jumbuck.com [206.112.99.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D588FC1C; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.jumbuck.com (mail.jumbuck.com [206.112.99.82]) by mail.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCBFDDC12B9; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ppp191-232.static.internode.on.net [59.167.191.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jumbuck@jumbuck.com) by mail.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39524DDC12B5; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AC02164.7040201@thebeastie.org> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:37:24 +1000 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Saifi Khan References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:55:42 -0000 On 25/09/2009 10:28 PM, Saifi Khan wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > >>>>> i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD >>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html >>>>> >>>>> What could be the reason for that ? >>>>> >>>> Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle. >>>> IE wave money under Oracle's nose& ask to purchase what you want. >>>> >>>> If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD >>>> consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Julian >>>> -- >>>> >>> i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ? >>> >> Most unlikely. Ask Oracle& tell advocacy@ what you find out. >> I'd bet perceived market share& demand as ever, ie Money. >> >> > Hi Julian: > > Here is the response on the Oracle forum thread to my posting, > > > """ > FreeBSD is a kernel not used in any extant operating system with > the sole exception being Apple's Mac OSX so you are heading, > The reality is that Oracle is meant to be a very expensive solution for companies that don't know what to do. This makes Red Hat etc an ideal contender for this situation as it promises full enterprise support. Whether it is the truth or if its even a good solution is completely irreverent to these 2 tech companies because at the end of the day they are just trying to make money and please the stock holders. We have bought the occasional Dell server with Enterprise Red Hat and found all sorts of weird little problems. My preferred story was the Perl that RHE came with was bleeding edge (for the time of release) which at first looked nice. But when I discovered my FreeBSD laptop could parse a 500meg log file 4 times faster then the quad core RHE Dell server I know something was wrong. It was just the version Perl that RHE decided to package up the distribution with. I ended up having to build a later version into /usr/local and everything was fine. But is this really a good solution? Was this worthy of the word enterprise? absolutely not, I mean its not a big deal to build a second Perl into /usr/local on RHE but FreeBSD ports seems like a far cleaner and professional solution if you ask me, just because its not point and click friendly shouldn't be some kind of excuse, to me its and clean and pure as I could dream. We hired a person directly from Oracle full time to build a new database project on Oracle. After it was all built and been using it for about 2 years I just thought it was a bit of a disgrace. Oracle is brittle, unreliable and expensive. We had FreeBSD+MySQL along side it the whole time and it was just so much more reliable and faster for the same amount of hardware. Oracle by packaged design is meant to encourage a comparatively massive amount of hardware investment compared to what could be achieved with MySQL and FreeBSD. I think it is just as much about masking its crap performance then any other argument. I think Oracle is a about of system of making money out of false beliefs, it takes full advantage of corporate companies conservative beliefs and is probably only the reasonable solution for at best 5% of the companies it lives at, its all a matter of opinion which would be argued more from how much money a set of individuals are making out of it over a better technical solution. Some how Oracle want people to believe that a few 100's thousand dollars for their software is vastly superior to any other DB in the world is just nonsense. There is not any other mass scale pieces of software that most company's need where there is some how a magically vastly superior solution. There is no single/few license $100,000 operating system, no single/few license $100,000 excel, no single/few license $100,000 web server. I guess what I am saying at the end of this is that if you can avoid Oracle that is great, I fully recommend you do. Just because you can buy MySQL Enterprise Server far more cheaply and install/deploy it far more easily on more different platforms isn't something to be suspicious about, its just a better software solution and I recommend you take full advantage of it while you still can. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 03:44:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79173106566C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4170F8FC0A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F2120605A8 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id IPPR6v1KR+rs for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB3920605A4 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C768EEA4A3; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BWxyQmjPbHfG; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 4AB0B6849D1DD; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090928034452.GA1424@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ABDFAE5.2090505@onetel.com> <20090928015625.GK29215@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090928015625.GK29215@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: lacie external hard drive supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:44:53 -0000 On Sun, Sep 27, 2009, Dan Nelson wrote: >In the last episode (Sep 26), Chris Whitehouse said: >> Hi all >> >> Does anyone have experience of a LaCie Hard Disk, Design by Neil Poulton >> eSATA, FireWire 400 & Hi-Speed USB 2.0 1TB ? >> >> http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?pid=11064 >> >> Are all the interfaces supported? The data sheet says it is supported >> under Linux. Does that mean it is safe to assume it is under FreeBSD? > >In general, you can assume that any SATA/SAS/firewire/usb hard drive will be >supported. The only thing that might not be supported is RAID array >management for the more expensive external units (you'll still be able to >acess the data though). The LaCie drives typically come with utilities to make them painless to use in a Mac OS X environment, but these can be removed easily of one doesn't want to use them on OS X. We are using a 1TB LaCie quadra on Macs, and use the commercial iPartition software which allows one to manipulate the boot information to switch between PPC Mac and Intel as well as to make a wide variety of partitions (even including Xenix if I remember correctly :-). I haven't tried these with FreeBSD, but it appears that it would allow moving the drive between Macs and FreeBSD machines. I must say that I was impressed with the ability of iPartition and the commercial Mac SuperDuper backup program which allowed me to change the boot on the 1TB drive from booting on a PPC Mac to boot on an Intel without losing any data, and to resize existing partitions pretty painlessly as well. I use the word partition above in the Linux sense, which are generally referred to as slices in FreeBSD-land. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of Misery. -- Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 06:14:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B81B106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (omr14.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1988FC17 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr14.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.77]) by omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id n8S6EkeD018995 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:14:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 27849 invoked by uid 78); 28 Sep 2009 06:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chris.makeworld.com) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.147.228) by ns-omr14.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2009 06:14:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500 From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.12; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:14:47 -0000 Greetings, Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. Preferably fast, no need to install a base OS, easy to clone and restore. Of course, the key is fast. Clonezilla does a nice job with OS's other than *BSD (It uses dd (iirc)) and that takes forever (at least when cloning - have not tried a restore). Some specs I'm using to compare: A typical restore/save currently with other OS's using CloneZ takes about 12 minutes with a simple boot from CD. The restored/imaged drive is 400 meg sata. -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 07:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4A21065697 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B478FC1E for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3798693fxm.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fCW/l9zGqOep2qeQbXDwvPgEelHDOFwZwgXWzIFOXOg=; b=SyuomrwAQ5bHWQEBUZwWrR1shHxMVf7n/Ni8JXrRBPBPBJ6DkqdzU4agTqLVdSNXRM Q2sp3rkWuuKUQJzTLubxzDTvPnV3PIobjERyaMFMqrQSu0Oki8ONwKV7Wgfs6hU1oK/a 5V7b78J1yLwo4nVI/D23vtaAhVskYXW0eiezM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LHibuZFFSxV8ZQ4EnpYPj7KUl6pK7pueiQNeFr8ULj5zLhwIGcLMAtQG7lZlXesUUg uRIHUVTYSbJcMGgUqXoPcQO54LiwlPNrWW8VNgRwdVplO7eL+nwm/dHWUhpRAiWVhqzM dwHckC2nNTr47m2GxbU2euGEPs8u0gKldU7bM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.32 with SMTP id c32mr1134258muk.1.1254123631485; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:40:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: battery reconditioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:40:34 -0000 hi list, form time to time, there appears some error / warning messages in console, which say this: Sep 27 23:54:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Error Event [command:0x28] Sep 27 23:54:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Medium Error [k:0x3,c:0x3,q:0x0] Sep 27 23:54:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Peripheral Device Write Fault Sep 28 00:13:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** Battery needs reconditioning. Sep 28 00:19:07 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Error Event [command:0x28] Sep 28 00:19:07 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Medium Error [k:0x3,c:0x3,q:0x0] Sep 28 00:19:07 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Peripheral Device Write Fault Sep 28 00:23:09 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Error Event [command:0x28] Sep 28 00:23:09 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Medium Error [k:0x3,c:0x3,q:0x0] Sep 28 00:23:09 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** ID(0:02:0); Peripheral Device Write Fault Sep 28 00:23:52 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** Container 0 completed SCRUB task: aac0 is raid device target machine: FreeBSD dell.tlis.sk 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Thu Sep 17 20:45:19 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 it is dell poweredge 6450, 4x xeon 700MHz, 4G ram, 4X72G disk in raid5 thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 07:49:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157D1106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C29C8FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA31E3A3842; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:52 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254124192; x= 1255938592; bh=riven7M/MTwn8qAzm/Ev24mSFLMyiBk1KgTJsheiYj0=; b=P HJUhKnkXYDjtRjSRiZU6KikRr0vSB+ORSh+npTMjfrpcZ/JNNWUenRwVWLYyMy8J t9ftG4fOQEuImXUnka5DgoZ/wLiyrNqQUoirprYRim/pwcr/6OkYPGxh1AzhSgyW phOEobYuMpf/nys34Zo2izc90eBcEwPS6w+E1BRHWk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id pUSphgzgxpGM; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:52 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299A43A383C; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:52 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8S7nld1075627; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:47 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:47 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200909280749.n8S7nld1075627@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Miklosovic on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:40:31 +0200) References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: battery reconditioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:49:56 -0000 Hi, > form time to time, there appears some error / warning > messages in console, which say this: > Sep 28 00:13:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** Battery needs reconditioning. What is your question? It informs you you should change the battery used on the RAID hardware, so change the battery :) Hardware RAID has a system to delay the write when the disk is idled. The sectors to be written are kept in a temporary RAM and this RAM is powered by batteries. When there is a power failure, the battery should provide electricity to the hard disk, just long enough to write back the sectors that have been delayed. If the battery fails, these sectors will never be written. So if the battery is bad, replace the battery. Best Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 09:43:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2322106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CCE8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3859610fxm.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SI1AMgO6Jb6eMqQB8E44uap4ar4Nwk4YrVaT651iQIw=; b=rG4ilXvdxK1MHDW1uLRhyaFwS1C0Cc+fAJtjJVFiAWwsqthngsDp9Mk/zXr2LsZkx3 dvjzqeHJ4ICiGKwVOlqiWn6a7z7nfV4yi/axJVbv+NdcbN17MSpR1jb0RBIYLvDMrugB 6WAEEtIhk1jYDzY8eZoAkqZYZaZ774l6cvQyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NFXeSgBbrIgY+9wDoE5+vbecC6cC4sUTRlY8MgOIIZT7s4aPjtqJ+rG2KWBiuFr0N5 vK6ZbEE5bH5MDMV0hDrZaT6GrNLsFWtcib9+/S2U+rJ1Fpk/DXoCGu7KI43m7zQUYpp6 IB3xSPEAfIzHlIl8VREjcS5yT83qZgLiObK+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.10 with SMTP id b10mr253263hbc.198.1254130985856; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:43:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:07 -0000 2009/9/28 Karl Vogel > > >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), > >> Aflatoon Aflatooni said: > > A> I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only > A> internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail... > > First things first: if you're happy with Sendmail and your system works > to your satisfaction, I'd leave it be. Just watch your logs and keep an > eye out for security patches. > > A> I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. > > There are fanboys on all three sides of that question ("yes", "no", and > "qmail bites, use this-other-MTA instead"). I switched from sendmail to > qmail on a server because I had an odd corner case that qmail happened > to handle just about perfectly. I also botched a qmail install on my > own workstation, didn't feel like finding out what I did wrong, and > decided to install Postfix instead. > > I've had fine experiences with both qmail and Postfix. If you're > using a system that's a little under-powered, you might appreciate Dr. > Bernstein's efforts to make qmail and its supporting tools *very* frugal > with OS resources. If you're used to the sendmail way of doing things, > you'd probably be better off with Postfix. > > I like Dr. Bernstein's programming approach, but be prepared to spend > time getting used to his way of setting up network daemons, etc. It's > internally consistent but *very* different. It takes me 30-40 minutes > to install all of the qmail stuff from source because I've done it at > least 6 or 7 times; I could probably cut that in half if I didn't save > build and installation outputs for my logs. My first time took most of > a weekend to figure out what was going on. > > A> Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > I tried SA a few years ago, and it was a little heavy-weight for my > filtering needs. I use a simple Bayesian filter (ifile) trained on > around 100,000 spams plus some procmail rules, and I get along fine. > Your mileage will vary. I saw some other comments: > > >> Qmail is not, nor has it been, actively supported for years. > > Depends on what you mean by support. The user community is very active; > have a look at http://www.ornl.gov/lists/mailing-lists/qmail/ if you > doubt it. OTOH, said community can be a bit, um, brusque, but the Qmail > Handbook and the "Life with Qmail" webpage filled in the blanks for me. > > >> Qmail has a very limited set of features... > > It's intended to handle one problem well, which it does. If you have > some other requirements, http://www.qmail.org/ probably has a plugin > that will do what you want. > > OK, now let's settle which text editor is best. > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > They say marriages are made in heaven. So is thunder and lightning. > --Clint Eastwood > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > exim is worth a look, it scales very well and is fairly easy to understand. I also has a very powerful acl language for filtering and plugs directly into lots of av/anti spam stuff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 09:43:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC4010656A5 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BF78FC23 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3039120bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.19.144 with SMTP id a16mr2900842bkb.9.1254129259677; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm4456152fke.2.2009.09.28.02.14.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:14:17 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:38 -0000 I have a freebsd 6.1 system with a gmirror raid 1 which is degraded. Originally I had /dev/ad4 & /dev/ad6, but I'm getting a degraded status and log messages reporting dergraded status and uncorrectable block for ad4. Obviously I need to remove the device and get it replaced and then insert back into the mirror. However, this is a remote machine and I need to get the right disk fixed. Is there a way I can get the colocation engineer to replace the right disk? I guess I need to do 1) figure out what kind of disk this is and 2) figure out some information to allow them to identify. I looked at the smartctl output and see this /dev/ad4 Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 Serial Number: WD-WCANM4438410 /dev/ad6 Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 Serial Number: WD-WCANM4434657 is this sufficient to enable a data centre engineer to fix my problem? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 10:11:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E794106566B; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6376F8FC18; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9BF36ED6; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:10:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:10:48 +0200 From: cpghost To: Greg Lewis Message-ID: <20090928101048.GA1189@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: java/jdk16 vulnerability? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:11:36 -0000 [Sorry for resending: I didn't get any replies] Freenet (http://www.freenetproject.org/) on my FreeBSD/amd64 system complains about an old and vulnerable Java version: Your installed version of Java is vulnerable to a severe remote exploit (remote code execution!). You must upgrade to at least Java 5 update 20 or Java 6 update 15 as soon as possible. Freenet has disabled any plugins handling XML for the time being, but this includes searching and chat so you should upgrade ASAP! See http://www.cert.fi/en/reports/2009/vulnerability2009085.html for details. Also, please do not use Thaw or Freetalk. The UPnP plugin is enabled, it might present a risk if you have bad guys on your LAN, but without it Freenet will not be able to port forward and will have severe problems. I'm running java/jdk16: phenom# java -version java version "1.6.0_03-p4" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00, mixed mode) On 7.2-STABLE: phenom# uname -a FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 8 10:43:26 CEST 2009 root@phenom.cordula.ws:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Is that version of Java really vulnerable? If yes, why doesn't # portaudit -Fda report it as such, and could you please update the java/jdk16 port? Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 11:39:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BF71065679 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@datasynergy.org) Received: from s219.sureserver.com (s219.sureserver.com [203.194.200.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C4B8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11038 invoked by uid 1002); 28 Sep 2009 11:39:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.9?) (saifi.khan@datasynergy.org@59.92.166.14) by s219.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 28 Sep 2009 11:39:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:08:06 +0530 (IST) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@freebsd To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:39:47 -0000 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different mail servers? > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > > Thank you > Hello Aflatoon Aflatooni: Are you running Sendmail on FreeBSD ? If yes, what issue are you facing ? and what did you read ? thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 12:22:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA4E106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1616C8FC13 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3119372bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:22:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dr6pfZ7cvPFbLxIlSx1eZguXDbz7P+gtJcUgJSn1qV4=; b=jXFDHiw60ujzCcD9jT6g2N0F0vLjxq9AVMPLn5dl66zjoy1WBq4il+nl0rXLqY5/ll NSiSSx+yzq5inlaIZVMpBmjwboypPzMDA1wshskjw/0rGsDuDm7xYV5iq3FLePrDlIvq dWBxLtXYeutAvAGS4QVYPpSn+aztDhnliOqmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RsOOvegQCWxEw2LJ3G02BVs8AH//iz+AZTMt9gv69nRC+pM1iEcd4+3z0gWj+FXO6I WhGb6voD5eLPuZyJFbl0qKqXb4boNHzvLOApjgdXyoNjumyN1ZUxOtlu8Is9P+odkwvE y6MQ7ur1Rg6huABol09wHCwwjFF9bEXu0NWnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.79 with SMTP id n15mr313378hba.107.1254140565564; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:22:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:22:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:22:47 -0000 2009/9/28 Robin Becker > I have a freebsd 6.1 system with a gmirror raid 1 which is degraded. > > Originally I had /dev/ad4 & /dev/ad6, but I'm getting a degraded status and > log messages reporting dergraded status and uncorrectable block for ad4. > > Obviously I need to remove the device and get it replaced and then insert > back into the mirror. > > However, this is a remote machine and I need to get the right disk fixed. > > Is there a way I can get the colocation engineer to replace the right disk? > > I guess I need to do 1) figure out what kind of disk this is and 2) figure > out some information to allow them to identify. > > > I looked at the smartctl output and see this > > /dev/ad4 > Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 > Serial Number: WD-WCANM4438410 > > /dev/ad6 > Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 > Serial Number: WD-WCANM4434657 > > is this sufficient to enable a data centre engineer to fix my problem? > -- > Robin Becker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > probably not but possibly. What is the server you have is it a custom build one? Does it have a drive cage? Can you make the hd light blink? Is the remote hands going to go inside the case for you, as I think he might to have to trace the cables to work out what drive is the correct one? Personally I would recommend that you or one of your trusted engineers goes down an replaces the drive yourself. Remote hands engineers in my experiance are a bit crude, and at the end of the day dont care about your box as much as you would. While you or your guy is down there he could do a proper job and label up all the drives so in future you can get remote hands to do it all for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 13:32:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC42A106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712388FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so640062fga.13 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.195.26 with SMTP id s26mr3357134fgf.23.1254144771208; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm221896fgg.20.2009.09.28.06.32.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC0BB01.5030107@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:32:49 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: krad Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:32:52 -0000 krad wrote: ........... >> > > probably not but possibly. What is the server you have is it a custom build > one? Does it have a drive cage? Can you make the hd light blink? I've never seen the machinery. > > Is the remote hands going to go inside the case for you, as I think he might > to have to trace the cables to work out what drive is the correct one? > I thought the serial number would help with that, > > Personally I would recommend that you or one of your trusted engineers goes > down an replaces the drive yourself. Remote hands engineers in my experiance > are a bit crude, and at the end of the day dont care about your box as much > as you would. but you're probably right about the remote hands being uncaring :( > > While you or your guy is down there he could do a proper job and label up > all the drives so in future you can get remote hands to do it all for you. > it's still under discussion anyway whether we just abandon the machine; the current colo company took over our freebsd machines from another and they don't provide freebsd support anyway. The alternative ugh is to switch to ubuntu. I suspect if we do go ahead it will come down to one of our guys going down there to do the hands on. I'm still looking for good examples of exactly how to do the actual recovery. I assume I can just do gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad4 to eliminate the bad disk. However, will the system still reboot from the disk on /dev/ad6 or should the good disk be swapped into the /dev/ad4 position. I don't know enough about sata booting, but I suppose it can be configured through our serial console. If the system does boot then the other disk can be inserted with gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad6, but I am not sure whether any partitioning/formatting etc etc is required, Dru Lavigne was my guide when we installed this stuff, but this is the first time it's failed and she doesn't mention the repair process. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 13:49:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225B31065698 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1BE8FC18 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8SDnbvP015875; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:49:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8SDnb0g015874; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:49:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:49:37 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Message-ID: <20090928134937.GA15844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:49:34 -0000 On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:01:22AM -0700, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal > users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on > other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there > a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different > mail servers? No, sendmail is as good or better, especially in a situation such as you describe. Some people believe that sendmail can be hard to configure, and it is a little arcane to do it directly in the sendmail.cf file. But there are things that help nowdays. Anyway, if you already have it configured and working your are past that already. Most of the things these others complain about being to complicated are more exotic and special-cased stuff. Then they become religious zealots about their favorites. > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? Learn to use procmail. ////jerry > > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 13:53:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578ED106568B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1248FC0C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8SDrccu015905; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:53:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8SDrcAQ015904; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:53:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:53:38 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Message-ID: <20090928135338.GB15844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090928134937.GA15844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090928134937.GA15844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:53:34 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:01:22AM -0700, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only internal > > users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, but reading on > > other discussions I noticed that qmail and other programs are suggested. > > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there > > a matrix of features and functionalities that would compare the different > > mail servers? > > No, sendmail is as good or better, especially in a situation such > as you describe. Some people believe that sendmail can be hard > to configure, and it is a little arcane to do it directly in the > sendmail.cf file. But there are things that help nowdays. Anyway, > if you already have it configured and working your are past > that already. Most of the things these others complain about > being to complicated are more exotic and special-cased stuff. > Then they become religious zealots about their favorites. > > > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > Learn to use procmail. Sorry, I meant to say spamassasin + procmail ////jerry > > ////jerry > > > > > Thank you > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 14:10:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D02106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD4C8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so5302731yxe.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kZ31V+VqSmqCplWNg/Bc7P3BG5ONX+NAQ7rW+AuUKfk=; b=lFE+dYxSXKyEWmxfJiniHgG5uvB1kcCpxh2zRli4jeBwn7YLBqTWkzqrmi1JyWd0V7 3uEcm/xa2eKY3rGMq/toDblY39IjfNnpb28gsZEaEb+fKKVmMxGYJPHSkmkAN8ZPMh+m nxxq/v1owozCR/zP6tOTRhMiBEEfgHexYWaQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y0fNIswgxmWvddmBTqJP16jSq3FPFwOksV+rky9lj9HFUNB0rUysXWKUcQMIqgDzjx 26tVuiVIaDWWykFkhy8/1oXzjfHA4jmujKCaVM1/a2G6N1rH6aPa1R+iW4JC35mBfYXW BpRHE7lHKbeMpJppjoNSQdjwXmOei3e6BJIpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.16.28 with SMTP id 28mr7891755ybp.133.1254147037101; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:10:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:10:38 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > I have a freebsd 6.1 system with a gmirror raid 1 which is degraded. > > Originally I had /dev/ad4 & /dev/ad6, but I'm getting a degraded status and > log messages reporting dergraded status and uncorrectable block for ad4. > > Obviously I need to remove the device and get it replaced and then insert > back into the mirror. > > However, this is a remote machine and I need to get the right disk fixed. > > Is there a way I can get the colocation engineer to replace the right disk? > > I guess I need to do 1) figure out what kind of disk this is and Looks like sata... > 2) figure out some information to allow them to identify. > Power down system and disconnect one drive. Note that the drive plugged into the lowest sata port is probably ad4. Watch dmesg and check hd detection. If you got the wrong one unplug and try again with other disk. Refer to man gmirror for replace procedure, it's quite simple. > > > I looked at the smartctl output and see this > > /dev/ad4 > Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 > Serial Number: WD-WCANM4438410 > > /dev/ad6 > Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 > Serial Number: WD-WCANM4434657 > > is this sufficient to enable a data centre engineer to fix my problem? > -- > Robin Becker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 14:14:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFF01065672 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C78FC3E for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so5306000yxe.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FDpSxOb2kDuraJkLeSHy2CpnuU47D0SKyyHqz8Zpx1g=; b=OTyBgC82812+tvjoS8GRcm8G/hLkR0gm1wKM/s8BomXwrf6MM0ieW+wq+V1PdFRVYA kQx7dCcoeqDAFSmxPANTJ4rN68UZu0I9vYJNYA84C11vzk6ijY83EjklfL7rptHOWYP/ i16DXO6ZwVnY4KCL5NLINsEAO9lEI3lCvJuCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qOjZ/Oqe9E9JnD6JOAr9vV4u+kABn01rDhL67BgMddjJ+XrHgEVjT27ftq7vRNDezf Q5aWvZlx7A+pmaaM9XsadVsuzCVR68EHy75DH6cfOjnC7xnyNPQY6yYQmxVuB79rqYw8 qtvGhPc9TydwKYyEGTcluGx0SPfDgCIluEGxM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.7.17 with SMTP id 17mr7938500ybg.47.1254147252183; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:14:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC0BB01.5030107@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <4AC0BB01.5030107@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909280714v587a905fv36965abb34ebbe46@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:14:14 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > krad wrote: > ........... > >> >>> >> probably not but possibly. What is the server you have is it a custom >> build >> one? Does it have a drive cage? Can you make the hd light blink? >> > > I've never seen the machinery. > > >> Is the remote hands going to go inside the case for you, as I think he >> might >> to have to trace the cables to work out what drive is the correct one? >> >> > I thought the serial number would help with that, > > >> Personally I would recommend that you or one of your trusted engineers >> goes >> down an replaces the drive yourself. Remote hands engineers in my >> experiance >> are a bit crude, and at the end of the day dont care about your box as >> much >> as you would. >> > > but you're probably right about the remote hands being uncaring :( > > >> While you or your guy is down there he could do a proper job and label up >> all the drives so in future you can get remote hands to do it all for you. >> >> it's still under discussion anyway whether we just abandon the machine; > the current colo company took over our freebsd machines from another and > they don't provide freebsd support anyway. The alternative ugh is to switch > to ubuntu. > > I suspect if we do go ahead it will come down to one of our guys going down > there to do the hands on. > > I'm still looking for good examples of exactly how to do the actual > recovery. I assume I can just do > > gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad4 > > to eliminate the bad disk. > > However, will the system still reboot from the disk on /dev/ad6 or should > the good disk be swapped into the /dev/ad4 position. I don't know enough > about sata booting, but I suppose it can be configured through our serial > console. > It would boot fine from either assuming drive is good and mirror was consisent. > If the system does boot then the other disk can be inserted with gmirror > insert gm0 /dev/ad6, but I am not sure whether any partitioning/formatting > etc etc is required, Dru Lavigne was my guide when we installed this stuff, > but this is the first time it's failed and she doesn't mention the repair > process. > -- > Robin Becker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 14:19:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E0D1065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691628FC1E for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8SEJI8r037988; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:19:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8SEJI7L037985; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:19:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:19:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chris In-Reply-To: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:19:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:19:19 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Chris wrote: > Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. > > Preferably fast, no need to install a base OS, easy to clone and > restore. Of course, the key is fast. Clonezilla uses ntfsclone or partimage, both programs that have built-in knowledge of specific filesystems. ntfsclone, the default, of course only supports NTFS. partimage has had "beta" support for UFS for a while. I don't know how well it works. You'd have to specifically choose partimage instead of ntfsclone in the Clonezilla startup. To get the equivalent of Clonezilla with FreeBSD, you should be able to boot a "livefs" FreeBSD CD and use dump to backup via ssh. There's an example in the Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html#AEN25814 dump is not terribly fast. A comparison to partimage would be interesting. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 14:39:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D8C106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CA38FC21 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8SEcudF016060; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:38:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8SEcttO016059; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:38:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:38:55 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Bret Busby Message-ID: <20090928143855.GA15919@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:39:03 -0000 On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:01:18PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq > NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. > > I noticed that the Linux Format magazine to which I subscribe, in Issue > 124, comes with FreeBSD 7.2 on the DVD. > > >From what I understand, FreeBSD (and possibly all BSD) uses hard disc > >slices rather than partitions, and therefore cannot > easily be installed in a free partition, but needs for hard disc slices to > be used. > > Is it yet possible to install FreeBSD into a hard disc partition, rather > than needing to install into hard disc slices? I think other responders have handled most of what you need to know. But, to try and be clear for a newbie; you are running in to a terminology issue here. MS and FreeBSD use the word partition to mean different (but related) things. Generally, in MS, the terms partition and primary-partition often get used interchangeably. But, they normally mean primary-partition. MS does also have and 'extended-partition' which somewhat corresponds to the division that FreeBSD calls a partition, but it is implemented much differently and is not compatible with FreeBSD - although there are now some FreeBSD utilities that can read a MS extended-partition. FreeBSD, Linux and MS have primary-partitions, but they call them different things. FreeBSD calls them slices. Too bad MS didn't follow that pattern. Things would be more clear. Anyway a primary-partition/slice is determined by the BIOS, not actually the operating system, A standard BIOS allows for 4 main divisions of a disk hard-drive. They are numbered from 1..4 even though in computers it is common to number things from 0..n. Each of those are primary-partitions in MS language and slices in FreeBSD language. If I remember right, Linux refers to these as partitions and primary-partitions somewhat interchangeably, but I am not so familiar with Linux. Each primary-partition in either MS, FreeBSD or Linux can be subdivided into chunks. In MS, they are called extended-partitions, in FreeBSD they are called partitions and I forgot what Linux calls them. /FreeBSD has a broader outlook on things and if you are going to use /a hard-drive only for FreeBSD you can even skip creating a primary /partition and any subdivisions. You just have newfs build a filesystem /right on the disk. That is called creating a 'dangerously- dedicated' disk. /It is not really dangerous. It is just not compatible with other systems. Each primary-partition (or the dangerously-dedicated disk) can be made bootable. Each has an initial sector(512 byte block) in the initial track on the disk that is called the boot sector. If that contains bootup code the system consideres it to be bootable. In addition, there is a sector-0 on each disk that controls everything. In general, this sector is normally called the MBR. It is just enough code to look for boot sectors and let you select one and then read in that sector and transfer control to it. Actually, some fancy MBRs take advantage of the fact that a whole track is being wasted for the sake of that one sector and put much more sophisticated code there that allows more complex choices. But the original standard was just one sector. So, what happens is that the BIOS has a list of devices to look on for MBRs. It grabs the first one in the list that it recognizes and starts to execute it. That MBR will find boot sectors from those primary- partitions that it recognizes as bootable and give you a choice of which you want to boot from. Most have a default if you do not make a selection before a timeout. FreeBSD MBR defaults to booting the most recently booted one. That boot sector is read in and starts executing. It starts pulling the rest of the boot code and that begins to put your kernel in along with its extra modules and starts that running which starts init to run and so on. You can make any of the primary-partitions/slices be FreeBSD, MS or Linux and all on the same disk. Often when you get a machine loaded with MS, such as XP, only two primaries (slices) are used, but they are sized to take up the whole disk. Usually one of those slices is a hardware vendor diagnostic/maintenance system and the other is whatever MS you have. The diagnostic slice is very small and the MS slice takes up everything else with lots of empty space. When what you have to do is get a stand-alone utility that manages disk partitions and shrink that MS primary-partition and make room for another. Most of them are somewhat MS-centric and complain about making more than one primary-partition, but they will do it. Just make the newly freed-up space an unspecified primary partition and then install FreeBSD in to it. I have used Partition Magic, but the new version (8) is poor. Use version 7 if you can get it. But neither of these work properly with USB drives. I had to send PM-8 back for a refund. A free utility that works quite well, though with less pretty graphics is 'gparted'. Download it and make a boot disk from it. Boot it up. Ignore warnings of not being able to book if the boot sector is beyond a certain number. That is archaic. Follow the instructions. A couple of extra things to know. Most of the free utilities are a bit old and do not handle MS NTFS file systems properly. gparted seems to be OK. That is one thing Partition Magic 7 does well. The other is that I have heard that MS Vista totally screws things up. It seems to cause problems with MBRs, but I don't know just what they are. I haven't had to mess with Vista yet and am not wishing to ever see it on any of my machines. I have not heard about Win-7 yet and if it presents any particular problems. > > I have attached a copy of the screenshot showing the partition table; I > wanted to install FreeBSD into sda8. Attachments are not allowed in the list so it was stripped. > > Can this be done. Well, hopefully you mean 20GB and 2 GB instead of 20 MB and 2 MB. If you have a free 20 GB primary-partition, sure it can be done. It is a little small for todays standards, but FreeBSD will install and run from that much. Just plop the FreeBSD install CD in the drive and boot it up. You might have to tinker with the BIOS if the CD is not in the BIOS boot list. ////jerry > > Thank you in anticipation. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > .................................................... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:28:37 +0800 > From: Bret Busby > To: bret@mailserver > Subject: screenshot of partition table of laptop > > > -- > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 15:32:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CA8106566C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kron24@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5D78FC22 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3250587bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VCDCl/hTv+8OOUwoScyu98kKNWuTn9DdtrE9IhVI+OA=; b=rVZ/OYpm1sgzkQEJUwNrDa4BfUvjKc6Be9/avTVkl5w5AgFvPhQjR7R1zPb2d/Mv68 MMvCzDKqQpXajJSZsSQ8wuf8bCH9aE60zF+8Atpcz8gFLWzguTa8YaaAE/Vko7cubCzU Opl6T7aOMRfSeVjlG1Aw2tFqyXQntiapt3FiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VyjJqUqiEaqs8L/+fHqVrRwVawbuF0jTTMbGOBq+G+eSrtTybcTQhkhzQ7UAwJeIzb oGSZEOZ8jTA0Q87tpAStKEQK4b//W/dqvE8qhvFhEQ414jV7nK8mVku4Jl4E7EPAWh3J GaOEwFrS8trbMa2QiVNM5BwYwyul/ZKSb6fUM= Received: by 10.204.13.204 with SMTP id d12mr3082357bka.61.1254151952585; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.241.102? (uidzr185150.sattnet.cz [212.96.185.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm4737071fkt.41.2009.09.28.08.32.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC0D70E.5070604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:32:30 +0200 From: kron24 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090814 Fedora/3.0-2.6.b3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090925123222.GA1176@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <4ABCC2AE.4060205@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32:34 -0000 Dne 25.9.2009 19:55, Warren Block napsal(a): > On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, kron24 wrote: >> Dne 25.9.2009 14:32, William Bulley napsal(a): >>> According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at >>> 03:32: >>> >>>> I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports >>>> updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite >>>> spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot >>>> make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or >>>> xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: >>>> >>>> hald_enable="YES" >>>> dbus_enable="YES" >>>> >>>> both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was >>>> trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take >>>> *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on >>>> the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all >>>> in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them >>>> and choose 'open'). > > [edit] > >> The same problem on my test machine: >> FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 >> xfce-4.6.1 >> xorg-7.4_2 >> I usually run it without dbus+hal and it works fine. >> With dbus+hal enabled (just for the sake of test) >> I experienced the same hangs. > > It works here. Can we see your xorg.conf? When you built xorg-server, > did you enable hal support? > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Yes, built with default options (including HAL). My xorg.conf is below. The machine is too weak to run my desktop, I use it only to test things: CPU: VIA Samuel 2 (532.64-MHz 686-class CPU) graphics: vendor = 'Trident Microsystems' device = 'Via Tech VT8361/VT8601 Graphics Controller (VT8361)' I don't mind the hangs with dbus+hal - I don't use them, I enabled them just to test OP's problem. Purely and simply, it is much less responsive with dbus+hal. It often takes seconds to see what I typed in a terminal emulator. Maybe the box is just underpowered for dbus+hal, I can live with that :-) BR, Oli Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/urwfonts-ttf/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/gentium/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "xtrap" Load "dri" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbLayout" "us,cz" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "trident" VendorName "Trident Microsystems" BoardName "CyberBlade/i1" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 15:44:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56A1106566C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F288FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so95897fxm.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.181.6 with SMTP id d6mr3459787fgf.29.1254152655442; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm449213fge.28.2009.09.28.08.44.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:44:15 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:17 -0000 Thanks for the information re reboot; I think I knew it was a sata already. My one remaining question is what preparation does the hd need prior to gmirror insert. I see various people recommending clearing out various chunks of the disk (to make the disk unambiguously not in sync?), but that doesn't seem to be required. I guess the whole idea is to be able to just connect a new disk and start the system up and then insert back into the mirror. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 16:06:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CE8106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C438FC20 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so5409346yxe.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:06:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=6Wh1rcMNHYaAy49DQHvQbXpe3QIEx1mHbxiq/1Dq0W0=; b=VU1V3kKLZ7SVWRO2mz/nYTK6r398vwCBXyehEudHCPopGDbxTj86L5w7JaI3LGwyZd /bE2OGdds6RE1MeYbEkzPxdK6+b6Bv0ai5MNJH/TvzAHWWipnppztiluw7ni3vPtv9hT 5/zUR+gyK/md7ESPy/m55kTWk0Rs1rxthRz28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eEp7bHNwcpyUccCn6H1w+EUzCPhLPk84vVHthWceUsaruLL6j2ukvssLammuLvUcXv uLhdzziunEJOLyoj8uQEGguD6C4q2lC9lK1IDQ4nYyRRq0qTlurpNNRaLDA3QIRLeh+I 8YPEHPRk2TLzFewua8Ah3NZRgosC+CQqb81Vc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr3157214anz.136.1254153995077; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:06:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Swaping Fs (from ntfs to ufs), or ntfs3g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:06:38 -0000 Hi folks, Scenario: 3 hds, 1 of them with a NTFS partition and loads of media on it, I was thinking to activate ntfs3g under Freebsd 7.2 STABLE, but since Im having this partition since a while... and i will no need to have it on this FS, what you recommed for moving this partition into ufs format... to make it 100% reliable? what steps will you do? BR! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 16:24:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C490106568D for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com (mail-yw0-f187.google.com [209.85.211.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532B68FC1B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f187.google.com with SMTP id 17so5251243ywh.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XfoyvrHmTdpJF77xnZfjm/yGQLgEbhlgOOGqEKzNtW0=; b=x5iwKwueFEwSkDKvC2Ihe3eJ/AavPudlrIVftjWvTl5FRkPmTuNB0F17GII+T/jaBN VwmjaPrTE19HeqZeSdBJT+Z0opdHHM6NyYMDfgoHmv4vPfGQEeBepj/F6AzVBw9ZPPcp mKYyHhOuU9JJ+3SAhw06nW5pKeQERpy/pwE+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IEpE2ZscG8igjuAzOjRPOc0y2l6RVj+PBuxOspC9PvUou9mBZZtkbOoVpMXJJlEuvG aswxv1LdsFabFYLKl+t7+wmb8rkBkEVTcsZjjfoxtUHlhNI235cAhUCX+8FMX72PmLmb cxmevORFcRET30cjgG5R7mjDt3XjPmQjW9ArY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.74.6 with SMTP id w6mr8064965yba.317.1254155081130; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:24:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:24:41 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909280924i310a5034wb7b6e7c7a4d794e9@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jeronimo Calvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Swaping Fs (from ntfs to ufs), or ntfs3g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:24:41 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Jeronimo Calvo < jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Scenario: 3 hds, 1 of them with a NTFS partition and loads of media on > it, I was thinking to activate ntfs3g under Freebsd 7.2 STABLE, but > since Im having this partition since a while... and i will no need to > have it on this FS, what you recommed for moving this partition into > ufs format... to make it 100% reliable? what steps will you do? > > BR! > _______________________________________________ > I would create a new parition on a disk, put ufs w/ gjournal on it and either dump or cp the data assuming you can access both drives locally. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 16:59:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A6D1065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from westr@connection.ca) Received: from nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca [205.207.122.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995AA8FC18 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from westr-main.tor.connection.ca (external.tor.connection.ca [216.234.38.18]) by nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E20874E58E for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:44:48 -0400 From: Ross Organization: Network Connection X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <773896033.20090928124448@connection.ca> To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: geom not clearing metadata labels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ross List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:59:15 -0000 I've got a geom based file system that is running under 2 geom modules: multipath and journal. I'm looking to increase the journal size on the disk, but when it comes to re-creating the journal geom metadata, it refuses to do so sighting the errno 1: "Operation not permitted". I get the same error with trying to redo the multipath metadata as well. (The command I'm executing is "gjournal clear -v /dev/multipath/xyz2.journal") Permissions all look correct on the /dev devices, and I'm executing as root/uid 0, and normal disk access is fine - so I'm a little stumped. Executing "gjournal list" gets the following, which seems correct (mode is r0w0e0 due to being umounted, otherwise r1w1e1 in normal operation) -= Geom name: gjournal 1011364901 ID: 1011364901 Providers: 1. Name: multipath/xyz2.journal Mediasize: 1072668081152 (999G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: multipath/xyz2 Mediasize: 1073741823488 (1000) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 1073741822976 Jstart: 1072668081152 Role: Data,Journal -= Obviously, I can just reformat/dd the raw disk to get rid of the label, but I'd like to know the better way. :-) Thanks. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 17:56:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747F0106566C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com (mail-yw0-f187.google.com [209.85.211.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8208FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so5331227ywh.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rTSf/SKCOAZGSdy49OXtqHDCyQbHLF2dMRY1bt176ZE=; b=UUa45WMKOZzSauP9wLRxgK0zhXRwoBKWjpeZwMCzqRCPXuUOzBVwTBMsdMtCHYnyuX uXy17EwYBt7+Bc7Oe0WAShbfKPGD3tpvNa3u9SjIx4Gc/a/oSkhTfXPGRHk0LCBZJJ/F LnHkFhs4x6Ds0s7UEeb2fuC4aYPb948VoUptA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MStf7v0hefZUzqfBgsekOiv5MHhiYqBJDs+11iU2+6tHf3mla9q6n6yMFhwa4gYze4 BWg0UJf+hhA5e3G5W8GD7ewdxdmLeGnsTQeDX/JqdGVXHNR0d/K6v9Zu5/xEIk5vtP8P qU9ooEpU7Ocz5nUMZOP05lU6NSj8LxMBYboKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.16.28 with SMTP id 28mr8281098ybp.133.1254160608442; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:56:49 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > Thanks for the information re reboot; I think I knew it was a sata already. > My one remaining question is what preparation does the hd need prior to > gmirror insert. I see various people recommending clearing out various > chunks of the disk (to make the disk unambiguously not in sync?), but that > doesn't seem to be required. I guess the whole idea is to be able to just > connect a new disk and start the system up and then insert back into the > mirror. > -- > Robin Becker > well, really only thing I can think of off hand is conflict gmirror labels ie inserting into gm0 from another gm0. a simple dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=1M count=1 would fix that if nothing else if there's was no existing label, there is nothing to do except gmirror man instructions. Gmirror is block level mirroring which why no other steps are needed. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 18:00:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463081065676 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02588FC1F for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so3696378vws.7 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NAPZ2FDzyUGquNcGZfrkwlnoUR8WAL/3s9xR1vjQibU=; b=dTU7k/v22na3aOz9CjEivYe8DmvJYrFcAKuoce+1Fdzg8eycFnZK3NZYA8xkvvN5Co 0wfQBYtnBJSs2EDfbnoNXxUTs+mEvmB84pFu0j2mCvb0atTm2qI2rFH10DM0M+FDx6W4 lzhMeBR3EFHlR7FrYTQiUQxLtlHREdvhC9imk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qfGCUNCQ9s9PkAsK0J3enSNauJd0UTY8dtelhBE4sQZlwDgqOfPZNIB1Bdwtc3Cxbo y/j04CspthpQckr7VHVSiYhd6RoLs0aDe4ngp41lXGqkC2BUg87Uy2JCIB/y66Ql06Dc jB0SP1MxkT6ZwkXdCVe0A6AlNNyK9YbkirznI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.108.106 with SMTP id e42mr5969165vcp.77.1254160838984; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <539c60b90909251538r28871e93gc3c67e9f994a3faf@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90909251456j792de04kea7caf6c7f9962fd@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90909251538r28871e93gc3c67e9f994a3faf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:00:38 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90909281100t61abc67dq39ed4e71c8839f15@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: bridge wlan and tap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:00:40 -0000 I know everyone's busy with the release. This is not a showstopper, but it relates to networking, which is pretty central to a working bsd box... I read in some obscure post that I can't bridge from a wlan to tap because the wlan can only handle one MAC? Kindof thought every card has only one mac. No idea if this related to 6.x or something earlier, or current...of course I can't find the post again, either, but it was just a mention in some other howto. Anyway, I can't get an address on bridge0. rc.conf: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" # autoconfigure these bridges autobridge_bridge0="tap* wlan0" ifconfig_bridge0="DHCP" After I boot, no address on bridge0, and dhclient bridge0 just times out...sortof thought I was following the handbook & man tap, but again, I have a 7.2 box on a wired network that this basic operation works on, so I'm suspecting wlan does break bridging... Best, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 19:00:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F87F1065694 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B4C8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFD8EB57E5; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2AB45164; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:47 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oeIvVRBYbJ38; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl243-164.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.56.164]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B621E45152; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8SJ0jH1003068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8SJ0hYi003067; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:00:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris In-Reply-To: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> (Chris's message of "Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500") Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:02:11 +0300 Message-ID: <87zl8ftbfg.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:00:49 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500, Chris wrote: > Greetings, > > Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. > > Preferably fast, no need to install a base OS, easy to clone and > restore. Of course, the key is fast. > > Clonezilla does a nice job with OS's other than *BSD (It uses dd > (iirc)) and that takes forever (at least when cloning - have not tried > a restore). > > Some specs I'm using to compare: A typical restore/save currently with > other OS's using CloneZ takes about 12 minutes with a simple boot from > CD. > > The restored/imaged drive is 400 meg sata. A dump & restore of a 400 MB system should be *very* fast. Copying files from a read-only USB flash disk easily reaches speeds of more than 20 MB/sec on my laptop. This means that 400 MB of data should take around 20 seconds to copy from an external USB disk. If you can attach both disks at the same time, e.g. the source disk as ad0 and the target disk as ad1, it should take less than 2-3 minutes to: * Enter single user mode * Partition and mount ad1 under /mnt * Use dump(8) to save data from ad0 and restore(8) to copy them over to ad1. Even if you cannot attach both disks at the same time, but you can access the source disk over the network, it should be possible to: * Install the target disk on the target host (host2). * Boot from a rescue image (CD-ROM, DVD-ROM or USB). * Bring up a network interface to access the source host (host1). * Partition the ad0 disk of the target host (host2). The standard fdisk(8), bsdlabel(8) or gpart(8) utilities can do this. * Tunnel dump over ssh: host2# cd / host2# ssh operator@host1 'dump -0a -C32 -L -f - /' | restore -rf - Clonezilla is really nice, because it can take care of partition layout and sizes automatically. It isn't really _necessary_ to use Clonezilla to clone an existing system though. The base system of FreeBSD includes enough tools to do that already. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 19:06:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C6E1065694 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f229.google.com (mail-yw0-f229.google.com [209.85.211.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A6B8FC20 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh18 with SMTP id 18so2465005ywh.3 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87zl8ftbfg.fsf@kobe.laptop> Received: by 10.216.38.139 with SMTP id a11mr30149web.20.1254164762238; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0016367fa6ee24a7740474a7fd35@google.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:06:02 +0000 From: utisoft@googlemail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:06:04 -0000 On 28 Sep 2009 15:02, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500, Chris racerx@makeworld.com> wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. > > > > Preferably fast, no need to install a base OS, easy to clone and > > restore. Of course, the key is fast. > > > > Clonezilla does a nice job with OS's other than *BSD (It uses dd > > (iirc)) and that takes forever (at least when cloning - have not tried > > a restore). > > > > Some specs I'm using to compare: A typical restore/save currently with > > other OS's using CloneZ takes about 12 minutes with a simple boot from > > CD. > > > > The restored/imaged drive is 400 meg sata. > A dump & restore of a 400 MB system should be *very* fast. Copying > files from a read-only USB flash disk easily reaches speeds of more than > 20 MB/sec on my laptop. This means that 400 MB of data should take > around 20 seconds to copy from an external USB disk. > If you can attach both disks at the same time, eg the source disk as > ad0 and the target disk as ad1, it should take less than 2-3 minutes to: > * Enter single user mode > * Partition and mount ad1 under /mnt > * Use dump(8) to save data from ad0 and restore(8) to copy them over > to ad1. > Even if you cannot attach both disks at the same time, but you can > access the source disk over the network, it should be possible to: > * Install the target disk on the target host (host2). > * Boot from a rescue image (CD-ROM, DVD-ROM or USB). > * Bring up a network interface to access the source host (host1). > * Partition the ad0 disk of the target host (host2). The standard > fdisk(8), bsdlabel(8) or gpart(8) utilities can do this. > * Tunnel dump over ssh: > host2# cd / > host2# ssh operator@host1 'dump -0a -C32 -L -f - /' | restore -rf - I might add that if network speed is an issue, it may be worth adding a gzip in there; host2# ssh operator@host1 'dump -0a -C32 -L -f - / | gzip' | gunzip | restore -rf - Just be careful where you put the quotes! Dump is excellent, especially the -L flag for a live filesystem. I can't believe how few OSes don't have snapshot functionality; it's absolutely essential for me. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 19:38:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A214106568F for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B01C8FC2D for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520F1E0B6; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8SJb4nR001831; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:37:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:37:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Message-Id: <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:38:09 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500, Chris wrote: > Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. For FreeBSD, I'd tend to use dump + restore, because that's their main purpose. > Clonezilla does a nice job with OS's other than *BSD (It uses dd (iirc)) > and that takes forever (at least when cloning - have not tried a > restore). You haven't tried restoring? You should, it's worth it, because what's the value of a backup that cannot be restored? :-) > Some specs I'm using to compare: A typical restore/save currently with > other OS's using CloneZ takes about 12 minutes with a simple boot from > CD. > > The restored/imaged drive is 400 meg sata. Well, dump + restore isn't known for ultimate performance, but its results are good; dd, on the other hand, is another possible way to go. The advantage of dd is that it can be used with any filesystem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 20:16:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0BB1065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844748FC17 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8SKGWQk017865; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:16:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8SKGVIQ017864; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:16:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:16:31 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeronimo Calvo Message-ID: <20090928201631.GA17808@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Swaping Fs (from ntfs to ufs), or ntfs3g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:29 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > Hi folks, > > Scenario: 3 hds, 1 of them with a NTFS partition and loads of media on > it, I was thinking to activate ntfs3g under Freebsd 7.2 STABLE, but > since Im having this partition since a while... and i will no need to > have it on this FS, what you recommed for moving this partition into > ufs format... to make it 100% reliable? what steps will you do? I would suggest you create the UFS filesystem, then tar up the files in the NTFS partition that you want to move and then untar that on the FreeBSD UFS (or UFS2) filesystem. You might have to install a tar utility on the MS system. You can also just mount the NTFS file system on FreeBSD and then do a massive copy of the files you want in to the UFS[2] filesystem. In both the case of doing a tar or a mass copy (cp) wildcards are good. Hopefully you have the files on the NTFS organized reasonably in directories. If you don't and they are interspersed with lots of files you do not want to copy, then it can get tedious but you can still do it. It will just need much more manual attention. ////jerry > > BR! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 20:34:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47630106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF718FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3308296ewy.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eSmFz2k+WNo3//l5uLyp9Uc5zVe+5knlCs4eDE7emWk=; b=ck6kycZPZ9PpcQZLqbd7zfuI5NIIg/oK+otpAHG1FS9FBvF7nMzsH+555pxnA1PWhw 1UhJmcREIwn9ZU52Q4nfJ7DFjkL4HYVBVB5bRKb3LiatURc8Q8hIIIOL+KhH2KS9hgsh KD2+Qiku8C5xyVOEF4gab8aUyuEIyTwaBQYKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gFTqbTEseCoaW9sJSy+ovlX5bpXeUDtb+Z76fgLzF/7NlJ4+CmzlpvO11scYDE2Yoa UoW2glS0Sogn0yxGA+NbB0l8ib5uc0bI5Uv9Qt3dTvaHKEH10VhFNmRbtWntKcNBHrNI b2+TFgwSbeYEwUlZIrhbnmaJz8aSnLQnGIkr4= Received: by 10.211.153.20 with SMTP id f20mr3691488ebo.1.1254170085754; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm165363eyh.0.2009.09.28.13.34.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:34:40 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090928213440.4ba0b591@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200909280749.n8S7nld1075627@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200909280749.n8S7nld1075627@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: battery reconditioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:34:47 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:49:47 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > form time to time, there appears some error / warning > > messages in console, which say this: > > Sep 28 00:13:40 dell kernel: aac0: **Monitor** Battery needs > > reconditioning. > > What is your question? > > It informs you you should change the battery used on the RAID > hardware, so change the battery :) It says reconditioning rather replacing. Some battery types benefit from an occasional deep discharge. http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/1.9/en/stormgmt/battery.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 21:02:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABA7106566C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dlkcarlos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3193C8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3334657ewy.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fbSwmsOmdcEhRlm7JLR55HAhjdujsa22mQ9NcM5YgPU=; b=fbxtX1rYBQOALpC4wyHDI4v2NfQOpE3m5JUpeoOg5vM/iGcKWMxsulrErxuTwEb+f1 gnx/wz0CKsM7/U7DJs1UXrBo6LC3rxf5k+E9z4/OxJZLFvBY1BBC3wt2UC9rCoObyRj4 AgqCINgZ1IRP1pY4R7yKC4Q+sJawjsIUeSbyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=flsx0c6alXlQ7+2600XY8rKq5E7eEMKPs3oTddXS5yBoWHfCBcqJDEQIWLegzJuh2h 2NaT5ALYNemPwp7SccNSsC3b6olg/V1thzoAiFB1haLvrAf2NdgOPqtjIYUeGES5beUP tcp2mOhwGPqHj448z+3QBAgzJkAedFTHl5H3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.12 with SMTP id d12mr888178wef.64.1254169972033; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: <68a9a4d00909281332y7ee930dfue36a0105f04cd2fe@mail.gmail.com> From: don carlos To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Requesting Service X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:02:25 -0000 Hello and Good day, We are looking for a company that provides on-site services on installing FreeBSD mailserver. We currently have a FreeBSD based mailserver running and we need to upgrade it. We need all emails and addressbooks to be transferred into the new server. We will provide the hardware. Can you please advise if you do such services or if you could refer us. Many Thanks, Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 21:24:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFBD106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5369D8FC18 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8SLOQTG018290; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8SLOQIe018289; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:26 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: don carlos Message-ID: <20090928212426.GA18182@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <68a9a4d00909281332y7ee930dfue36a0105f04cd2fe@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <68a9a4d00909281332y7ee930dfue36a0105f04cd2fe@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Requesting Service X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:24:23 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:32:52PM -0400, don carlos wrote: > Hello and Good day, > > We are looking for a company that provides on-site services on installing > FreeBSD mailserver. We currently have a FreeBSD based mailserver running and > we need to upgrade it. We need all emails and addressbooks to be > transferred into the new server. > > We will provide the hardware. Can you please advise if you do such services > or if you could refer us. In what part of the world would this be? ////jerry > > Many Thanks, > Don > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 23:24:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AC0106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4B8FC16 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8SNOs2X039815; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8SNOsBV039812; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: kron24 In-Reply-To: <4AC0D70E.5070604@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20090925123222.GA1176@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <4ABCC2AE.4060205@gmail.com> <4AC0D70E.5070604@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:24:57 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, kron24 wrote: >> >> It works here. Can we see your xorg.conf? When you built xorg-server, >> did you enable hal support? > > Yes, built with default options (including HAL). My xorg.conf > is below. > > The machine is too weak to run my desktop, I use it only to test > things: > CPU: > VIA Samuel 2 (532.64-MHz 686-class CPU) > graphics: > vendor = 'Trident Microsystems' > device = 'Via Tech VT8361/VT8601 Graphics Controller (VT8361)' > > I don't mind the hangs with dbus+hal - I don't use them, > I enabled them just to test OP's problem. > > Purely and simply, it is much less responsive with dbus+hal. It > often takes seconds to see what I typed in a terminal emulator. > Maybe the box is just underpowered for dbus+hal, I can live with > that :-) > > BR, Oli > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection Just now I added Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" to my xorg.conf, and it becomes draggy and slow on input. Your alternate keyboard layouts complicate the situation with hal. I've seen that discussed here; a search might be useful. A 500 MHz VIA should be plenty fast enough to run one of the lighter X desktops (xfce4). -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 00:07:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67F81065679 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387428FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3557695bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Dthf7sm9J5GNMNcSt9gz/R5IJhxcdt/nndaerG/bH38=; b=L9mBzF+c0pGfvF7AefDoXS2klw5FCsEPsbmDtmjlM074AfrgKA4I7/b4eW0hkrzldZ hN5Yt9c2lbNEWndZfL/48TmJQx/KDrpsMDFSCYEVFHIwfVNS9KCqsxIg6joEr2ahPVRf QmOtC/IW5fr6Seqp3aa7gErLu3+E0QNHytp+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vqG/mV/lR+FO6xQSsvXydrByLSWmNm9cqPzLnCRWsDvd3W+rHqe0ihMa8gzgUoAgco hb3qtzOIcXAQUhkhxjrjBb2JXoJSTWUUlXfJFh8VqS4fjOvq2PaG0/EQMvl0t6+d2qO4 5NLPlbyOr44hoKBffu1/NfYrNTrGYXzRlq96Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.230 with SMTP id l38mr344133hbe.37.1254182851825; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:07:33 -0000 2009/9/28 Polytropon > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:14:44 -0500, Chris wrote: > > Please suggest a cloning method comparable to Clonezilla. > > For FreeBSD, I'd tend to use dump + restore, because that's > their main purpose. > > > > > Clonezilla does a nice job with OS's other than *BSD (It uses dd (iirc)) > > and that takes forever (at least when cloning - have not tried a > > restore). > > You haven't tried restoring? You should, it's worth it, because > what's the value of a backup that cannot be restored? :-) > > > > > Some specs I'm using to compare: A typical restore/save currently with > > other OS's using CloneZ takes about 12 minutes with a simple boot from > > CD. > > > > The restored/imaged drive is 400 meg sata. > > Well, dump + restore isn't known for ultimate performance, but > its results are good; dd, on the other hand, is another possible > way to go. The advantage of dd is that it can be used with any > filesystem. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If your going to do all the partitoning manually its not to much more work to newfs them as well. You can then use rsync which is fast. Make sure you use good flags though, the following should do the job rsync -aPH --numeric-ids From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 00:22:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15243106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98D78FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB8E3E457; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8T0MVq1002682; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: krad Message-Id: <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:22:35 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:07:31 +0100, krad wrote: > If your going to do all the partitoning manually its not to much more work > to newfs them as well. Partitioning can be automated, as well as newfs, which does take only seconds on a TB-sized disk. If you want to avoid this, doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. If cloning is just a "do once" action, even partitioning the target disk manually is a matter of seconds. If you're going to to it many times, scripting should give a good solution to automate it. > You can then use rsync which is fast. If partitions do already exist, rsync is an excellent tool, too, I agree. Another tool that comes into mind is cpdup which works fine with locally available and NFS mounted drives. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 00:39:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00D11065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F7A8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3567599bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:39:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XTYPlEaIRLBrcrQSIyV42szOd/K9Yw8xtLsdMtlTV0w=; b=H0+PBGpL7QnuHdp2ivO+lM0hfhWxZ/3XtWc+58HsxUoCcOooCffG2FYZrHJRTKdxHG hlf2Z24t455kIcmzcNpNE2/ciDICD+C9lPgpuYptyfYg2RULtXV3ERutxi0F7XM2ASfc 6wSooSIVBr0KNTUiOTk2/q37fVHI0wagvVygg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=s8Bsl2YjtB734MfTJRYsg230Xkdsj7TEmeWxcFu3clH1xi8O45UhIesArxliw3EfnB 0eK/f7a9A1Fwc5zOtRP91U2KJBl+kBvs80FK3s8meU31Xmf7OaYeO/67AcrPVPFc81+j 98d670sSW81pUJk/Xtzb3nynLgaHpXnFnJla0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.136 with SMTP id s8mr329969hba.46.1254184758855; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:39:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:39:20 -0000 2009/9/29 Polytropon > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:07:31 +0100, krad wrote: > > If your going to do all the partitoning manually its not to much more > work > > to newfs them as well. > > Partitioning can be automated, as well as newfs, which does > take only seconds on a TB-sized disk. If you want to avoid > this, doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will > keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately > with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. > > If cloning is just a "do once" action, even partitioning > the target disk manually is a matter of seconds. If you're > going to to it many times, scripting should give a good > solution to automate it. > > > > > You can then use rsync which is fast. > > If partitions do already exist, rsync is an excellent tool, > too, I agree. Another tool that comes into mind is cpdup > which works fine with locally available and NFS mounted > drives. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > On a side note. Anyone building new systems manually from the shell I would recommend using GPT labels if you can. Apart from not having the 8 fs limit (128 iirc) gpart is a dam sight nicer to use than bsdlabel, and scripting it is a doddle. Especially the gpart from 8.0 as its a bit less clunky than the one in 7.x at the moment From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 01:03:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0728106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FED48FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A1178C02; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:03:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:03:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=smtpout; bh=yomE1+INYGLObR5s7OmG/kl+52I=; b=PWlszPDMf6AFUP8JD+oCgACVjnk5e9RQix6Vj8hSeHfO6mKfWBhzbCPTdI904xlCcEkQoeJZoz/9d5sn4FT1Bc1ImvFYIKvSkKzG9Cde0aGKbQq+eFvCnoIDtVMyhE0NZ/z3gnpQpEX/wsYKSV0jnti1PftdUsbxP4+yPQLfep0= X-Sasl-enc: hv+1930s7uW6XPyc65oRLg1zknEFZnR1U0pBc1CnHmK8 1254186184 Received: from olympe.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E573DB722; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:03:02 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9F9BA1C3-5723-4329-BC2E-9244F80AE2AB@goldmark.org> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:03:06 -0000 On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only > internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail, > but reading on other discussions I noticed that qmail and other > programs are suggested. If you have no compelling reason to switch from sendmail, stick with that. > I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. My personal favorites in order are exim postfix sendmail carrier pigeons messages in bottles qmail smoke signals ... MS Exchange ... whatever system dogs use when they smell each others' excrement. ... Lotus Notes You can't go wrong with the first three: exim, postfix, and sendmail. There are reasons why I have the preferences that I do, but they don't apply to you or your needs. So unless you are having problems with sendmail, just stay with that. > Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? There are many ways to integrate spam-assassin and sendmail, and they will all be in the ports system. Look at mail/spamass-milter Another approach (not using milters) is a spamassassin+procmail solution. I prefer the milter as it allows you to reject mail early in the process. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 01:32:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024D1106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AC58FC15 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3531302ewy.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x2mgaU9VF3feVMnJ8dMLfas83g5Te4JvGXTeN46Hg5A=; b=TP0+MZ7sNoj5w2aGN8BiV4lBl52xrEU6lQwLMM+CgbKmxqfMR6OVOBE5ZykpQXNhke 4WD1G4ZjmhXoXGvpizAMFjupvgT6fUsqzKEsSTTkm4FnYlgAX5K9jmLxs25DJvdJV5mg WCT4gotejtl559VsCaXVGvt/PTOR1ojS/UwoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CwpeXCvw65Er+TiZnRTP6EG+FPIIMfKeJeZcBnnyLo85jhSTH8uohfdcBb8+Y6zlQO hZNe4aKVtobzyXGHRC4cGvdDzzIaAtrvQG8Xg96DE88rC1SEbIxbctL8vAOWfNj4+NxL MVd4kIdfThGCOkpPN9M8gjedNPkD6pb05omOY= Received: by 10.211.174.15 with SMTP id b15mr3878665ebp.22.1254187960521; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm568894eyx.6.2009.09.28.18.32.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:32:33 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:32:42 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will > keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately > with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. Why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 02:08:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDB1106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BAD8FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8T28h7G040353; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8T28hLE040350; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: RW In-Reply-To: <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:08:49 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, RW wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > >> doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will >> keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately >> with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. > > Why? Because it contains the partition table. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 02:53:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43981106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD5EA8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37940 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Sep 2009 02:53:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254192833; bh=eBopfxlvZYgKV/4h3g13zVuo+tQQwf5OEBNL5Iyk+V4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=acrCn15Vorek5bQLjHPkxOHBb+84NZ1x5fGjoORfRVNgs04JnjZhRRcAfPMPA4JDQTUjP3/fmcAzRGTZHpDEh52QYoQ8oQKY8MqyFRhCCoBvSXAXoNljR0HzE0PT195667+sTlPNsMbpR/m380kfwjrdQmDSIFW9AMBoBl6cZzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eKJN494/dSHoLwaivmVIpDAMfddRQF3OM5VmMWNjDTlnp89EMJTguhyC8Pbr8cx8TEso5ks5ycEbZLhdjZKWXJSpAnoXPUaAliGSj9rgLUzpM/eupdUdjBAh39hNZBMFJm25RZdZPrlXCDF2At6MYNucZf0df7yxoOKV19K2B8I=; Message-ID: <283164.37870.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NQ0o2bEVM1nvtwHDUP6nn6lIeCVdpx98m1QxrOQG.At38_QqdG_45ZbwTNSvib5ZtR.LujPTadizFq.apt5eZGbWm9p5uP8XikZtsxaXBJZjS7nORDQPO1SAH8L8tsiqtVrK3sifZz4zUPiRk5nMtYQlg1CE4eaTeEs4GQdr_DPZtIYKTKyMhTpcr0BUT6jQQNmT53n5T39FOKSkLfh7nLvNrWQhNm4l1xKhtYml91.6A5oaZIe34zNuqtFbyAEzyr59mrmJzW6hxoepMwYWE69fJuRvN1mHZae9Dq3GEEX7fLNiEazktrbPjsLR5C48UDulaAKp84qBqbZvL4Pqjv9g3qwQqtYCSfkNMEntTjOXvzmLd5U- Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:53:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:53:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:53:54 -0000 Thanks,=0AI am running Sendmail on FreeBSD and it is working. =0AI have wor= ked with Sendmail for years and have configured and using it successfully, = but with sendmail there is so many things that you could configure you are = not sure if you have it configured correctly. =0AI generate my sendmail.cf = using m4 and it works, but I find that there are always new changes that yo= u need to stay on top of.=0AIs there a recommended mc file for running a Se= ndmail mail server?=0A=0AI am also using procmail as well.=0A=0AThanks=0A= =0A=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Saifi Khan =0ATo: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=0ASent: Monday, Sept= ember 28, 2009 7:38:06 AM=0ASubject: Re: Whic mail server?=0A=0AOn Sun, 27 = Sep 2009, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:=0A=0A> Hi,=0A> I am running a server th= at is acting as the mail server for only internal users (about 50 users). C= urrently we are running Sendmail, but reading on other discussions I notice= d that qmail and other programs are suggested.=0A> I am wondering if qmail = is thought to be better than sendmail. Is there a matrix of features and fu= nctionalities that would compare the different mail servers? =0A> Any sugge= stions on spam filters like spam-assassin?=0A> =0A> =0A> Thank you=0A> =0A= =0AHello Aflatoon Aflatooni:=0A=0AAre you running Sendmail on FreeBSD ?=0A= =0AIf yes, what issue are you facing ? and what did you read ?=0A=0A=0Athan= ks=0ASaifi.=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-= questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listi= nfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions= -unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 04:20:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042D8106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6D18FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8T3mctN056605; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8T3mc9f056604; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:48:37 -0700 From: Greg Lewis To: cpghost Message-ID: <20090929034837.GA56588@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20090928101048.GA1189@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090928101048.GA1189@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Greg Lewis , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: java/jdk16 vulnerability? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:20:07 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:10:48PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > Freenet (http://www.freenetproject.org/) on my FreeBSD/amd64 system > complains about an old and vulnerable Java version: > > Your installed version of Java is vulnerable to a severe remote > exploit (remote code execution!). You must upgrade to at least Java > 5 update 20 or Java 6 update 15 as soon as possible. Freenet has > disabled any plugins handling XML for the time being, but this > includes searching and chat so you should upgrade ASAP! We're almost certainly vulnerable. The jdk16 port is at Update 3. > See http://www.cert.fi/en/reports/2009/vulnerability2009085.html for > details. > > Also, please do not use Thaw or Freetalk. The UPnP plugin is > enabled, it might present a risk if you have bad guys on your LAN, > but without it Freenet will not be able to port forward and will > have severe problems. > > I'm running java/jdk16: > > phenom# java -version > java version "1.6.0_03-p4" > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00) > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00, mixed mode) > > On 7.2-STABLE: > > phenom# uname -a > FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 8 10:43:26 CEST 2009 root@phenom.cordula.ws:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > Is that version of Java really vulnerable? If yes, why doesn't > # portaudit -Fda > report it as such, and could you please update the java/jdk16 port? We need an entry in the VUXML database I guess. Updating java/jdk16 is going to be a slow process. There are lots of changes between Update 3 and Update 15. I've partially merged Update 4, but obviously that still leaves many to go... -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 04:32:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC43106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F5C8FC23 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Sep 2009 00:32:01 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFC41401; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Sep 2009 00:30:53 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19137.36221.789093.590674@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:30:53 -0400 To: Greg Lewis In-Reply-To: <20090929034837.GA56588@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20090928101048.GA1189@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090929034837.GA56588@misty.eyesbeyond.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Greg Lewis , cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/jdk16 vulnerability? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:32:03 -0000 Greg Lewis writes: > > Your installed version of Java is vulnerable to a severe remote > > exploit (remote code execution!). You must upgrade to at least Java > > 5 update 20 or Java 6 update 15 as soon as possible. Freenet has > > disabled any plugins handling XML for the time being, but this > > includes searching and chat so you should upgrade ASAP! > > We're almost certainly vulnerable. The jdk16 port is at Update 3. > We need an entry in the VUXML database I guess. > > Updating java/jdk16 is going to be a slow process. There are > lots of changes between Update 3 and Update 15. I've partially > merged Update 4, but obviously that still leaves many to go... As someone with zero knowledge of Java internals: what is the recommended version at the moment? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 04:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1FF1065693 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bret@busby.net) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D4E8FC13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailserver.busby.net (d122-104-116-170.per9.wa.optusnet.com.au [122.104.116.170]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8T4acCV029798 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:36:39 +1000 Received: from bretnewworkstation.busby.net (bretnewworkstation.busby.net [192.168.2.95]) by mailserver.busby.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC5116811; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:58:22 +0800 (WST) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:36:00 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ABE4464.6000604@otenet.gr> Message-ID: References: <4ABE4464.6000604@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:36:41 -0000 On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq >> NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. > > I really hope you meant Gb here ;) > >> >> I noticed that the Linux Format magazine to which I subscribe, in >> Issue 124, comes with FreeBSD 7.2 on the DVD. >> >>> From what I understand, FreeBSD (and possibly all BSD) uses hard disc >>> slices rather than partitions, and therefore cannot >> easily be installed in a free partition, but needs for hard disc >> slices to be used. > > 'Slice' is FreeBSD jargon for what Windows / DOS would call a 'primary > partition'. In short, FreeBSD can only be installed in your machine only > if you have free space *and* the possibility to create a primary > partition in it . Due to BIOS limitations, PC hardware only supports 4 > primary partitions on any disk. > If you already have 4 primary partitions and you are not willing to > delete one, you can't install FreeBSD as it won't install on what > Windows calls an "Extended partition". But let's say you have a typical > laptop with two partitions for OS and data, and some free space at the > end. FreeBSD will happily install there. > >> >> Is it yet possible to install FreeBSD into a hard disc partition, >> rather than needing to install into hard disc slices? >> I have attached a copy of the screenshot showing the partition table; >> I wanted to install FreeBSD into sda8. >> >> Can this be done. >> >> Thank you in anticipation. >> > > The screenshot won't come through in the mailing list, if at all > possible upload it somewhere and send us a link. > See http://busby.net/bret/Screenshot--dev-sda-GParted.png However, with the response above, and, with all of the responses thus far, to the query, it appears that I cannot install FreeBSD on the computer, without a full system rebuild, involving removal of all of the installed operating systems and software from the computer, then repartitioning, or, slicing up, the hard drive, and then creating new logical, extended partitions, and then reinstalling each of the operating systems, and all of the software for each of the operating systems, trying to ensure that I then have at least all of the software that is currently installed on each operating system on the computer, and, the data that is currently present on the computer. And, with being required to do all of that, I do not know what would happen, regarding issues such as the interrupt conflict that I encountered when trying to initially install Debian 3.1 on the computer, the interrupt conflict being between the WiFi card and the ethernet card, which reuired Ubuntu to resolve the conflict, then (at the time, as I was then a strictly Debian user) uninstalling Ubuntu to reinstall Debian 3.1, with the solution to the interrupt conflict, having used Mandriva Linux to do the partitioning, so as to retain the initial installation of MS Win XP, which I would probably lose, and have to install from scratch, as part of installing BSD on the system. So, getting the system set up, initially, to get Debian 3.1 running (it has been superseded on the system, first by Debian 4, and, now, by Debian 5), took a fair bit of time and effort, and problem solving, using various operating systems, to get the one extra operating system installed. Due to the time and effort involved, and the apparent complexity, it all seems too difficult, to install BSD. If FreeBSD would be able to be installed in a logical partition, within an extended partition, as can be done with Linux, it would probably be able to be done by me - in the meantime, it is simply too difficult. Thanks anyway, for your help, to those who responded. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 06:35:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EB4106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B990B8FC19 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4489992.home.otenet.gr [94.71.79.16]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n8T6Z3bC003503; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:35:03 +0300 Message-ID: <4AC1AA97.2020100@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:35:03 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bret Busby References: <4ABE4464.6000604@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:35:11 -0000 Bret Busby wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> >> Bret Busby wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq >>> NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. >> >> I really hope you meant Gb here ;) >> >>> >>> I noticed that the Linux Format magazine to which I subscribe, in >>> Issue 124, comes with FreeBSD 7.2 on the DVD. >>> >>>> From what I understand, FreeBSD (and possibly all BSD) uses hard disc >>>> slices rather than partitions, and therefore cannot >>> easily be installed in a free partition, but needs for hard disc >>> slices to be used. >> >> 'Slice' is FreeBSD jargon for what Windows / DOS would call a 'primary >> partition'. In short, FreeBSD can only be installed in your machine only >> if you have free space *and* the possibility to create a primary >> partition in it . Due to BIOS limitations, PC hardware only supports 4 >> primary partitions on any disk. >> If you already have 4 primary partitions and you are not willing to >> delete one, you can't install FreeBSD as it won't install on what >> Windows calls an "Extended partition". But let's say you have a typical >> laptop with two partitions for OS and data, and some free space at the >> end. FreeBSD will happily install there. >> >>> >>> Is it yet possible to install FreeBSD into a hard disc partition, >>> rather than needing to install into hard disc slices? >>> I have attached a copy of the screenshot showing the partition table; >>> I wanted to install FreeBSD into sda8. >>> >>> Can this be done. >>> >>> Thank you in anticipation. >>> >> >> The screenshot won't come through in the mailing list, if at all >> possible upload it somewhere and send us a link. >> > > See > http://busby.net/bret/Screenshot--dev-sda-GParted.png > > However, with the response above, and, with all of the responses thus > far, to the query, it appears that I cannot install FreeBSD on the > computer, without a full system rebuild, involving removal of all of > the installed operating systems and software from the computer, then > repartitioning, or, slicing up, the hard drive, and then creating new > logical, extended partitions, and then reinstalling each of the > operating systems, and all of the software for each of the operating > systems, trying to ensure that I then have at least all of the > software that is currently installed on each operating system on the > computer, and, the data that is currently present on the computer. Judging from the screen shot, you should still be able to do it using gparted to shuffle the partitions a bit. (I recommend using the gparted or the parted magic live cd for this) One possible way would be to delete sda8 and move the free space to the end of the extended partition. Then resize the extended partition so the free space is out of it. Create a primary partition out of the free space (or let FreeBSD do it during install). You still have primary partitions available, your current disk setup includes one primary and one extended partition with many 'logical partitions'. Granted, this will take some time but it will work. > > And, with being required to do all of that, I do not know what would > happen, regarding issues such as the interrupt conflict that I > encountered when trying to initially install Debian 3.1 on the > computer, the interrupt conflict being between the WiFi card and the > ethernet card, which reuired Ubuntu to resolve the conflict, then (at > the time, as I was then a strictly Debian user) uninstalling Ubuntu to > reinstall Debian 3.1, with the solution to the interrupt conflict, > having used Mandriva Linux to do the partitioning, so as to retain the > initial installation of MS Win XP, which I would probably lose, and > have to install from scratch, as part of installing BSD on the system. You could try simply booting the FreeBSD DVD or livefs CD and see what devices get recognized and any potential problems, without committing to installing anything. > > So, getting the system set up, initially, to get Debian 3.1 running > (it has been superseded on the system, first by Debian 4, and, now, by > Debian 5), took a fair bit of time and effort, and problem solving, > using various operating systems, to get the one extra operating system > installed. > > Due to the time and effort involved, and the apparent complexity, it > all seems too difficult, to install BSD. > I would agree all this would be too difficult for someone doing a first time install of FreeBSD, having to address multiple issues at the same time. If at all possible I'd recommend trying on a second spare system. FreeBSD runs very well on older systems too, maybe it's time to get this old PC out of the closet :) > If FreeBSD would be able to be installed in a logical partition, > within an extended partition, as can be done with Linux, it would > probably be able to be done by me - in the meantime, it is simply too > difficult. > I have no idea whether there are plans for these. Personally I avoid multi-boot systems at all if possible. I always tend to use one of the OSes anyway , the other just wastes disk space. I prefer to dedicate entire systems to different OSes. I have a few systems that multi-boot between Linux and BSD, mostly for demonstration purposes. > Thanks anyway, for your help, to those who responded. > Glad we could help, and let us know if you decide to go down the FreeBSD route! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 08:14:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9F51065692 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AED38FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so6063025yxe.3 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NrE/47t9Z+OQM/l0laRz2zCIFlkY1st4u4/Njj1dYLo=; b=PeIJ9fpo6c9vKpV2KKfzHz0oI1sUi3JXBAHmb4d60rywtvw+VqTSj8YipXBTrdcjRD VeW/r4DNY2frUvOzDcfKjvEFNhTy7iRd09kxy1GvcXKUC02lYicq+LiU48TDVV4X+gIv 8fKVStBJrk/7gd3kUdWJ2JK4eZVmbzfpFdRFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bZZLvmr2ssbMPdX+ba0UobPJX9NPqmSC41TcQ8lDE7NAHZ8KwmNefgoHsxMXZWEd34 SalFp54183Eew1EO/FVAISkQtv4/Iti2JBOTVlkSCIrY+Fcru4sgETz03m3UmQ04UMsl P8CcnNzFLTt/Va5xRnrBEFuPj1mDcWnVmFls0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.102.12 with SMTP id e12mr4145210anm.144.1254212078740; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090928201631.GA17808@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090928201631.GA17808@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:14:38 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Swaping Fs (from ntfs to ufs), or ntfs3g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:14:40 -0000 great I will do a massive Cp as both fs are mounted under BSD, (ntfs just with read access)... should you suggest guy to do a normal #cp /media/DATAWIN /media/UFShd as there is no any soft and hard links on this partition... will be fine? Thanks! 2009/9/28 Jerry McAllister : > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Scenario: 3 hds, 1 of them with a NTFS partition and loads of media on >> it, I was thinking to activate ntfs3g under Freebsd 7.2 STABLE, but >> since Im having this partition since a while... and i will no need to >> have it on this FS, what you recommed for moving this partition into >> ufs format... to make it 100% reliable? what steps will you do? > > I would suggest you create the UFS filesystem, then tar up the files > in the NTFS partition that you want to move and then untar that > on the FreeBSD UFS (or UFS2) filesystem. =A0 =A0You might have to > install a tar utility on the MS system. > > You can also just mount the NTFS file system on FreeBSD and then > do a massive copy of the files you want in to the UFS[2] filesystem. > In both the case of doing a tar or a mass copy (cp) wildcards are good. > > Hopefully you have the files on the NTFS organized reasonably > in directories. =A0 =A0If you don't and they are interspersed with > lots of files you do not want to copy, then it can get tedious > but you can still do it. =A0It will just need much more manual > attention. > > ////jerry > > >> >> BR! >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 09:30:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C927B106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECDC8FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB5934D417 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:12:38 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Thread-Index: AcpA5PK1eYKAeDg3T0SOusj0JshaQA== Subject: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:30:45 -0000 Hi I installed bind96 without keeping base-bind and am now having problems with some ports not compiling. What is the simpliest way to restore the original system Base_Bind? Thanks in advance David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 11:04:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2364A106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EF48FC0C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so788142fxm.36 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:04:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dAX9i+jnRfGcl4xCbTt4GF3WOVce38tIQjswxuLhzVk=; b=Qjz+qt9RdU/d9iH8Xx9d5IG4Y5HfEM9ir37NFFJaryVKV7VHBwD9R/Uhqt2L3XGbn9 F2SIP5ywvcleVfhUONyDo/T3zbZupdAkaGMAIkrDG6J4LMOjj20cmWanDrpYb/l93ce7 k4ItjdQ4fOboDpLjE84fuCGstXUde8TvJIiAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bwi0+lIEsWRz/zA82Z3ULyY7ttTAs+LnJsMnxDladdFTaUmSEc0dVMhvoJa86jhPh6 lVCjQRGCeGm1oq+ZqgQbS+GOa9Dpbdgakh8DEBmCfgreWxNh/vZF5Dnxd+UElKqEK36w NyEF0edpJjrxKIA9Ryq9aD9Cq1OIoQdpLxeOk= Received: by 10.86.231.15 with SMTP id d15mr4117373fgh.74.1254222250674; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm165715fgb.2.2009.09.29.04.04.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:04:06 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090929120406.269d3505@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:04:13 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, RW wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 > > Polytropon wrote: > > > >> doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will > >> keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately > >> with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. > > > > Why? > > Because it contains the partition table. Right, but why separately, rather than with the rest of the disk? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 11:13:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E9D106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kiran@global.com) Received: from mx4.global.com (mx4.global.com [206.40.52.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAF88FC23 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Scanned-By: PostConf Email Solutions at global.com Received: from mx.blr.global.com (unknown [164.164.37.4]) by mx4.global.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3D62560F6 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Scanned-By: Mail Scanner at mx.blr.global.com Received: from mx.blr.global.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.blr.global.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wHVUKjzPUbSA for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:25:50 +0530 (IST) Received: from KIRAN (unknown [192.168.16.98]) by mx.blr.global.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1EF3632CDB for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:25:50 +0530 (IST) From: "KIRAN" To: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:25:59 +0530 Organization: Global Message-ID: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpA822q/ZaqoUCNTbe+xC3IlVAyAg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Adding Windows Machine to LDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:13:14 -0000 HI All, I am FreeBSD User I am using samba domain, Recently 20 day's back I have updated ports. After updating the ports I am not able to join Windows desktop samba domain. Kindly do the need full (Before joining the domain I use to configure wins IP into the windows machine) Kindly do the need full. Regards Kiran Patil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 11:20:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC94D1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BF28FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B313A383C; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:19 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254223219; x= 1256037619; bh=I7TCctcEB1CDBvx8JlsMBcMGlZ6RIMb8ccq79BrzNJc=; b=k jpAOQRJp3O7ql3n54uJa6gW7eKO4HxDDUFbw5QkcnFmW60f1ajhrcXrwlC7fRexs u1VKpMMTchIp6vYTj/eVd/PsvcEMWb9qA8M/EHCrb1FEsIUfyC6H9D6RP3EB+7HG mBgznGHznS5zQFu6B193ATcuBxFVVfq0DyzvP7np/I= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wafD-kd8P51V; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F153A383A; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:18 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8TBKFw1094098; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:15 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:15 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200909291120.n8TBKFw1094098@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: kiran@global.com In-reply-to: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> References: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding Windows Machine to LDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:20:26 -0000 Hi Kiran, > I am FreeBSD User I am using samba domain, Recently 20 day's back I have > updated ports. After updating the ports I am not able to join Windows > desktop samba domain. I think you must give more details about your configuration. In the message title you mention LDAP, but you don't mention it after that. You should give your Damba configuration, error message, etc. Best, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 11:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D18106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekseev@rumonitor.ru) Received: from relay05.nicmail.ru (relay05.nicmail.ru [194.85.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF158FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [194.85.88.231] (port=47971 helo=nicmail.ru) by relay05.nicmail.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1MsaIq-0007OK-Ip for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:28 +0400 Received: from [194.85.193.44] (account alekseev@rumonitor.ru [194.85.193.44] verified) by fcgp02.nicmail.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPA id 786029148 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:50:51 +0400 Message-ID: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:52:28 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdC10LXQsiDQkNC70LXQutGB0LDQvdC00YA=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060507000607070104000400" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:24:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060507000607070104000400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -------- ИсхПЎМПе сППбщеМОе -------- ТеЌа: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 - Дата: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:00 +0400 От: Алексеев АлексаМЎр КПЌу: David Southwell СсылкО: Please let me see the error messages that occur when you're building ports. What means base-bind? -- Alexandr A Alexeev http://www.unixcommunity.net/ David Southwell пОшет: > Hi > > I installed bind96 without keeping base-bind and am now having problems with > some ports not compiling. > > What is the simpliest way to restore the original system Base_Bind? > > Thanks in advance > > David > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --------------060507000607070104000400-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 12:00:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E172C10656F9 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekseev@rumonitor.ru) Received: from relay05.nicmail.ru (relay05.nicmail.ru [194.85.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1568FC12 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [194.85.88.231] (port=48533 helo=nicmail.ru) by relay05.nicmail.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1MsakH-000Klk-FP; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:19:49 +0400 Received: from [194.85.193.44] (account alekseev@rumonitor.ru [194.85.193.44] verified) by fcgp02.nicmail.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPA id 786035123; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:19:09 +0400 Message-ID: <4AC1ED8D.4090107@rumonitor.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:20:45 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdC10LXQsiDQkNC70LXQutGB0LDQvdC00YA=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KIRAN References: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> In-Reply-To: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding Windows Machine to LDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:00:22 -0000 Ports update could affect the efficiency of Samba. Perhaps you have updated your software, that effect on one of the libraries. Try to rebuild Samba. -- Alexandr A Alexeev http://www.unixcommunity.net/ KIRAN пОшет: > HI All, > > > > I am FreeBSD User I am using samba domain, Recently 20 day's back I have > updated ports. After updating the ports I am not able to join Windows > desktop samba domain. > > Kindly do the need full (Before joining the domain I use to configure wins > IP into the windows machine) > > Kindly do the need full. > > > > Regards > > Kiran Patil > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 12:15:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F02F1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekseev@rumonitor.ru) Received: from relay05.nicmail.ru (relay05.nicmail.ru [194.85.88.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098738FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [194.85.88.231] (port=60272 helo=nicmail.ru) by relay05.nicmail.ru with esmtp (Exim 5.55) (envelope-from ) id 1MsalV-000MYL-DD for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:21:05 +0400 Received: from [194.85.193.44] (account alekseev@rumonitor.ru [194.85.193.44] verified) by fcgp02.nicmail.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPA id 786035449 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:20:28 +0400 Message-ID: <4AC1EDDC.7070002@rumonitor.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:22:04 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdC10LXQsiDQkNC70LXQutGB0LDQvdC00YA=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> In-Reply-To: <4B3FD558FE4145A5BF6DBE883D72ACF1@KIRAN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Adding Windows Machine to LDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:15:07 -0000 Ports update could affect the efficiency of Samba. Perhaps you have updated your software, that effect on one of the libraries. Try to rebuild Samba. -- Alexandr A Alexeev http://www.unixcommunity.net/ KIRAN пОшет: > HI All, > > > > I am FreeBSD User I am using samba domain, Recently 20 day's back I have > updated ports. After updating the ports I am not able to join Windows > desktop samba domain. > > Kindly do the need full (Before joining the domain I use to configure wins > IP into the windows machine) > > Kindly do the need full. > > > > Regards > > Kiran Patil > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 12:29:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D52B106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D79588FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56903 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Sep 2009 12:29:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254227368; bh=IS7+b5UJTdydKetiggBdVf4nrM7X8Bm2OonhpdBhMPs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1auoqIxFZehNZTTXZ0LRCYnE427a7kcvXmarQCllyXSBNrAldfLojMZ9Bb1I+v5ZGLJyXbEo05GEdU5TH1tDhDdB33PX/1/6MmMWeJ3n1sIcODMCtZ2I8Hm+AQB/eBd7Fxlm2vswSjc/tgDkq9avRE45rmuugVsxq+V32rFSKUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xfOitF8R59STPX0O620iAc0SrAwBtbSkb0HUaVPct4W+81URoe/XiDYBoAv9MwL6XSOllUUTWLZ+U6AGrsAJU7leRXRlUUiKb4ZAjZG2V7Thu1U91BHwRwTp5EIg7VN7Oy7lP0rUewFQkffwQadiVn3uF0BE1GARcv5DAv7u1Ow=; Message-ID: <225887.56033.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OLFIRU8VM1kObl6CxGrReD.byi3ngnagH9P5hRl8XfYR8VTQlINztO74t_1ag1Qgf5ji6kN8AKiqb3uy5KJ7RTQi5ckdqBgYjbzcki0RXD9uMcr64PVA45jOpGzg6Lmrp0h65qO4cwWPOjwTY2ce0LpJpMeHwm1DPGa39FAfH9fF1EPssYVLYtfkmU0exdkQSui_h8Y_u.gjSwBSiH.NFMGpRuDvTtlh.yp_aviZ29Gcy6LWgdt2rYj9hl7vxf1CU8Q7H4fZ7DrgLV2T237eEJgs6hbusFvLIB6XxS1e5zsYwZ4SwmiuGFFak77.UCd4uKBJCxSz_tPM16eruh9xTLZbzwTWiobb3inLpBRldOO0bBNb9HfjVAh56A24NBf9fgzn4Ttt.3nnMob8TvR1GlDGeKSLGAIe7mTr Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:29:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:29:28 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: NetGear WPN111 and FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:29:29 -0000 Hi, I just bought an NetGear WPN111 USB Wireless adapter after reading the = Wireless Networking section of the workbook, but unfortunately I can't make= it work.=0A=0AI included this in my /boot/loader.conf:=0A=0Aif_ath_load=3D= "YES"=0Awlan_scan_ap_load=3D"YES"=0Awlan_scan_sta_load=3D"YES"=0Awlan_wep_l= oad=3D"YES"=0Awlan_ccmp_load=3D"YES"=0Awlan_tkip_load=3D"YES"=0A=0AThe card= is recognized as ugen1, but I can't do a ifconfig ugen1 up. Does anyone us= es this card?=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonard= orame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 12:56:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CA11065693 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365DD8FC13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TCu8wW042684; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:56:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8TCu8xD042681; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:56:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:56:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= In-Reply-To: <225887.56033.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <225887.56033.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:56:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetGear WPN111 and FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:56:09 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Leonardo M. Ram? wrote: > Hi, I just bought an NetGear WPN111 USB Wireless adapter after reading the Wireless Networking section of the workbook, but unfortunately I can't make it work. > > I included this in my /boot/loader.conf: > > if_ath_load="YES" > wlan_scan_ap_load="YES" > wlan_scan_sta_load="YES" > wlan_wep_load="YES" > wlan_ccmp_load="YES" > wlan_tkip_load="YES" > > The card is recognized as ugen1, but I can't do a ifconfig ugen1 up. Does anyone uses this card? The driver is uath, but it is apparently only in FreeBSD 8. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 13:51:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC7106568D for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810EF8FC1E for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1865922and.13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=SYeSe7OkON6sr+rQUTzLgbbBYw3HHVt2ta+Sc8k4+o8=; b=h7Q3VkyZnQY+qILJwTyXUHncY7hNDBsArypU3bACT1bWMOrrEhnLf0fJkXZcKplGOx m7aVa6rPos6qG5erSKX2EajaWDI6Jr2y9hUD1fqfoTZyEg4ApoK7ojBhgT4Om2HaodUU 85DS+FuNI9cJ+K6dU9oqZ4tZVv5s/u07XYYBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YzeB7Ozp+RBpd3g1xxDX77/V9m4hYol06AMgh8fEXsWH6s186S/3YgiUPKR0ZA6vQt OkeYUEJykii9n8lm0KDz1CLWYV66LdRdw9FACt163MNUY3n13HP4KeF7avf3PtrwXxMG a93jHeQ7pU63Qu63cVu3sItz++gMeb+SDepzg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.20.3 with SMTP id x3mr4656905ani.31.1254232268739; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:51:09 -0000 Im thinking to get a second monitor to use with my 7.2 STABLE workstation and my ati card using the following splitter: http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Peripherals/Cabling/HDMI%2FMonitor+Cables/DVI+Splitter+Cable+?productId=17127 There is someone currently using any config like this? In this case can you tell me a little bit about the experience? My current GUI is KDE 3.5, and the Graphic card is a ATI HD7200, Cheers! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:02:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB80106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60298FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so7548439ywh.7 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Rk5f4KshJlPUEKjNklL5l6MGzWxhhMjpYFESxheAsIs=; b=kFbdDt6c2rVrV4qaQMXZnXQwsMoer6DTEu9v0+D7JMpp/kUwtjos7KJG8GI5ax8Hlb vI9TfqeImhV5QRH2+HJRO8DWRjjhrE+16eA1UP4nnEeoo7LZALB+C7UJoQj/YO8IkvFG v+Vb4gTOTb3+tHVxZuvoDkUOKBfeu3Ay+pKuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hEiJceRO+FoRBsZGr0dY7/S3WB9UFc1TfAZg4mQQxmJh2a5ghZXvXJwbFJ+2qfq7c6 BEJJAbG978wCh2L/jSzaYlL7xs+oK//S++daeH9OduJdD10PooDMWRNVSimLS8HzX2/y Ab2egkzMNhGaZaADGqui4UUD3eO0dr9fJCYv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.100.9 with SMTP id x9mr10302194ybb.203.1254232937990; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909290702t24487ce5j3a26544c687e1a6a@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jeronimo Calvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:02:19 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jeronimo Calvo < jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com> wrote: > Im thinking to get a second monitor to use with my 7.2 STABLE > workstation and my ati card using the following splitter: > > > http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Peripherals/Cabling/HDMI%2FMonitor+Cables/DVI+Splitter+Cable+?productId=17127 > > There is someone currently using any config like this? I am except with nvidia. It's how the dell optiplex 960 ships. > In this case > can you tell me a little bit about the experience? > No different than any other dual head setup on FreeBSD. Depends on what driver you'll be using but even standard ati + xrandr will provide what you're looking for. > > My current GUI is KDE 3.5, and the Graphic card is a ATI HD7200, > > Cheers! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:03:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CACE1065697 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFB08FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TE3YJW042950; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:03:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8TE3YQn042947; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jeronimo Calvo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:03:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:03:36 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > Im thinking to get a second monitor to use with my 7.2 STABLE > workstation and my ati card using the following splitter: > > http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Peripherals/Cabling/HDMI%2FMonitor+Cables/DVI+Splitter+Cable+?productId=17127 That looks like a simple splitter that will just send the same signal to both monitors. They would both display the same image, not an extended desktop. > There is someone currently using any config like this? In this case > can you tell me a little bit about the experience? > > My current GUI is KDE 3.5, and the Graphic card is a ATI HD7200, HD2700, maybe built into a notebook? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:07:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54CE1065698 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855E98FC26 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so7564699ywh.7 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:07:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=e+kurPDnXeBZy65UKJN6yaQAQq+J3ht/X4b1WEJNFwI=; b=IcnssInvanNTtHD13vvsCU7qKLCfBSt2CSAi4EoksMB2uLSzVsFadEdeo8TtiOmaqO 0pT4p/gGl0a7UpdbMgkdSp1Jy1PQF0sM03gVUYp5DLXtejxpyxbAW0GskDlqdJQqZepc 4E3ohTxg0Bo/322/sk3IcLOd06CG1aFIbcSyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Fjn454SGFbB38I8zpYj7wQYL0+ox+XRUkLmX5AzY5nVfJZZwjeLScFfTft1ttA87n8 HqMnR6F6gWfDF5TyETlBZVa22b8e0/0nGN6Sjaprrm76Vatal5CiDRjDJCHu9M4H3g5o Tz7Z/Ugokd41pkRWlVI9Nqj6MlJraLDz2nQXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.176.38 with SMTP id d38mr4681519anp.12.1254233222833; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:07:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Eitan Adler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: disable ACPI for mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:07:03 -0000 Is it possible to disable ACPI support for one specific device? (/dev/psm) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:14:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF737106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583CF8FC13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so4077474ewy.36 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GYuuO7apFAHtVGldgPI625LFw5AElKg5kwxhA89vDLU=; b=A2X5m2wi1g0fG1a5qjZ9O14iy8dxFvLXzT4R9vYaufHuHur9kXXsWLvcfw+8+wBEzc tNLd69XP/5SSs5An4Cjrl14qkaAco7KwQZ/3IzXleHoFIOJuquli9uzYCPU63JRsB2b4 c12AfFSMtJ7FX0YxuU26ZvdtMf+Tp2SLGwRrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=urTe/xFfeJ8w6WDatSh34q0UlW6uUoJB2t98Wt/b2vsHAvnc2wJtu/FvlL1K/3/51W KflynwpPph1qq2p72pVfgkBe35R7PXji52AJ2mpkq0TEc9O/aNVNtLT0piRU0zMjYmiw PLr21RS16MftiuQsj5+1/prBpc8v3uGbCWDJ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.146.5 with SMTP id y5mr5271682ebn.41.1254233646412; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:14:06 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909290714u7f7a8e84u9fa64c981f0f149e@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Jeronimo Calvo Subject: Re: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:07 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > > Im thinking to get a second monitor to use with my 7.2 STABLE >> workstation and my ati card using the following splitter: >> >> >> http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Peripherals/Cabling/HDMI%2FMonitor+Cables/DVI+Splitter+Cable+?productId=17127 >> > > That looks like a simple splitter that will just send the same signal to > both monitors. They would both display the same image, not an extended > desktop. That's what I thought too prior to hooking it up and trying it. Since then, I found DVI is able to detect separate output devices and send the appropriate signal to each device. > > > There is someone currently using any config like this? In this case >> can you tell me a little bit about the experience? >> >> My current GUI is KDE 3.5, and the Graphic card is a ATI HD7200, >> > > HD2700, maybe built into a notebook? > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:17:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E97106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AC08FC19 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8TEH371022216; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8TEH3Bi022215; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:17:03 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeronimo Calvo Message-ID: <20090929141703.GB22125@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090928201631.GA17808@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Swaping Fs (from ntfs to ufs), or ntfs3g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:17:04 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:14:38AM +0100, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > great I will do a massive Cp as both fs are mounted under BSD, (ntfs > just with read access)... > > should you suggest guy to do a normal > > #cp /media/DATAWIN /media/UFShd > > as there is no any soft and hard links on this partition... will be fine? > Are their subdirectories that need copying too. If so, use the -R flag. You might want to do cp /media/DATAWIN/* /media/UFShd/. ////jerry > Thanks! > > 2009/9/28 Jerry McAllister : > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > > > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> Scenario: 3 hds, 1 of them with a NTFS partition and loads of media on > >> it, I was thinking to activate ntfs3g under Freebsd 7.2 STABLE, but > >> since Im having this partition since a while... and i will no need to > >> have it on this FS, what you recommed for moving this partition into > >> ufs format... to make it 100% reliable? what steps will you do? > > > > I would suggest you create the UFS filesystem, then tar up the files > > in the NTFS partition that you want to move and then untar that > > on the FreeBSD UFS (or UFS2) filesystem.    You might have to > > install a tar utility on the MS system. > > > > You can also just mount the NTFS file system on FreeBSD and then > > do a massive copy of the files you want in to the UFS[2] filesystem. > > In both the case of doing a tar or a mass copy (cp) wildcards are good. > > > > Hopefully you have the files on the NTFS organized reasonably > > in directories.    If you don't and they are interspersed with > > lots of files you do not want to copy, then it can get tedious > > but you can still do it.  It will just need much more manual > > attention. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > >> > >> BR! > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:24:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D281A106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E008FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1874645and.13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F0Rnbh2ql03bmbIBMVt4HSjufHQgX7D7lVp25/cjHDE=; b=MVbIZV8al/N8z4XSGZpM7bmWg+snAOC/VGNIzWV45Y14OGS4j4g4Pv6NcD4shpspau PpUDkdBYep7lj4uBtnM0z2NKJP7/Uz6AXDtUwudMBSpot9h1wUlV0A3ySfEQL1DKBjOR X/8nzptzOvNKe3TFQcr8CpPba+YZJa1oyg8pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IRpmnuqtIHgrKiYiENZz7YMnbH1datW4u0Eu3ophnp2Kaa4mUoe5gsj8SAOWEuZfIq Fm0j3mcVa65/3EMUmKLPrFjVpbXif3ZoSZwGgpL82XGmCNI3xN5UQwUNf4r0Pm5wb6g6 At1gENtiohlwHjLJqw8rR2056Z6wnHYu7OBcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.55.17 with SMTP id d17mr4617207ana.118.1254234281577; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:24:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909290714u7f7a8e84u9fa64c981f0f149e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6201873e0909290714u7f7a8e84u9fa64c981f0f149e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:24:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:24:42 -0000 Great! I didn know that DVI was that clever!!! thats great news, as a splitter for 6 is much cheaper than any other tool... Well the HD7200... is a PCI-E card... (not sure if is 7200 but is from HD7xxx series), with DVI. 2009/9/29 Adam Vande More : > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jeronimo Calvo wrote: >> >>> Im thinking to get a second monitor to use with my 7.2 STABLE >>> workstation and my ati card using the following splitter: >>> >>> >>> http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Peripherals/Cabling/HDMI%2FMonitor+Cable= s/DVI+Splitter+Cable+?productId=3D17127 >> >> That looks like a simple splitter that will just send the same signal to >> both monitors. =A0They would both display the same image, not an extende= d >> desktop. > > That's what I thought too prior to hooking it up and trying it.=A0 Since = then, > I found DVI is able to detect separate output devices and send the > appropriate signal to each device. > >> >>> There is someone currently using any config like this? In this case >>> can you tell me a little bit about the experience? >>> >>> My current GUI is KDE 3.5, and the Graphic card is a ATI HD7200, >> >> HD2700, maybe built into a notebook? >> >> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Adam Vande More > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 14:54:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A39F106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas.j.schmidt@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515C68FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1609185qwd.7 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J8nqmC7IUDGkMhORjFiV62toJ2qQbRQIj5UMutY0ZJ4=; b=eGj4BCIpdaDJOZqRBeZPKmumEg7qJZUv7l+JCI+i8Z7qvaMTuwwzoKC9CrCdgmAk7O xyNXa+p2aPpJpR6qzFGZBAVVpKQupgStzzUvsOH+Tynk/tGubUgqDBXfrWNADkZcZ4FM /Q9sFfbntpap2qI9cyWfpI/bd3Zt0id+4hAJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UFR19+KrIN6K4JjSrRLzKDK88BPVj2iDkq6c/tzxXd1tv6c4BjWKu+gYbuI9uXc86I +Yd7B5Gsu66laYLO5oA6Vhy0zk1LL+fJ5xg1gFFORzTu/8TDmGatK4EYfy3aJbDVzoOo aB4ghDbbSFogojQobqOqgWxQ3seYPw0yo+UBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.40.200 with SMTP id l8mr1732585qce.104.1254234657650; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:30:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837.63581.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <837.63581.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:30:57 -0400 Message-ID: <320306640909290730l2b3841c1q8763f5e802a06595@mail.gmail.com> From: doug schmidt To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardening guideline for Freebsd 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:54:18 -0000 center for internet security benchmarks; http://www.cisecurity.org/bench_freebsd.html On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > Is there a hardening guideline for Freebsd 7.2? > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 15:12:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D493106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BE78FC1A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3951250bwz.43 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i7Bva1gYirrAzUtAa4vn0EQhZcu2FmDtJqFA2AQSXNo=; b=ey1CTOKx2Zo12fobGp5L6KYA7f+0Epcr8ZQMJYJ1H3D62wSn58uJ7aERMwi731V3wk +NeasD7rPsrz2WWH/3OV5dFVxACNQBJSF+f1n0+R+fMPEcM0B2YJqyFOppvkTLShbvO9 UuHLicjvem7yMC7+blTlxXG8ldbew2q/uA55E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n+06TGq37jiRoj9FoLwVDI5erXEqLGUncwM1HwQ/T7G8nkJvO5Ik2Xv0mQs28k48xP l6hNLytjcgxiIUHrF/z5N+Ad57Ld1EkgpS0h5gWfKZ2SacZDExNpgTT+BHL9R8IF6f6h xz7kWArBl+vGaQQF9QpUYaTfarD8hBSAvWnFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.30 with SMTP id 30mr431358hbh.130.1254237172351; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <320306640909290730l2b3841c1q8763f5e802a06595@mail.gmail.com> References: <837.63581.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <320306640909290730l2b3841c1q8763f5e802a06595@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: doug schmidt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardening guideline for Freebsd 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:12:54 -0000 2009/9/29 doug schmidt > center for internet security benchmarks; > > http://www.cisecurity.org/bench_freebsd.html > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Aflatoon Aflatooni >wrote: > > > Hi, > > Is there a hardening guideline for Freebsd 7.2? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > looks a bit old that guide does. Freebsd is actually fairly secure out of the box. What you need to establish is what kind of usage you are going to have. eg If you are going to be giving lots of people shell access, then what you will need to do will be quite different than if you were setting up an apache web server. Generally I would say just make sure there are no exploits for the services you are going to enable/install and put them into a jail. Write a decent pf ruleset for your needs. Above all though restrict access to the box to the bare minimum of what you can get away with From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 15:39:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A5106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202058FC19 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2]:4135 helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Msenj-000Mgv-D1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:39:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:39:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:39:41 -0000 Hi all, For the past few months I have been researching methods to create a = storage enclosure, perferably with out spending many 10s of k's of $'s. The intent here is to connect about 10 Web servers, each of them hosting = about 200 domains, to a central storage system to house users home = directories. I am still looking for feedback regarding what level of hardware ( how = much RAM , cpu bus speed etc) people might be using for a similar setup. The end idea is to lead FreeBSD on the storage system, create one huge = /home directory, export it via NFS and share that on all the Web = machines. It might be worth noting that the Web machines host a full array of = software, i.e. Mail, Web, MySQL, PHP etc. Does anyone use a similar setup? What kind of I/O bottlenecks are = created? Any feedback would be welcome. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 17:24:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9221F106568F for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D28C8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23ECF8054959E1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4AC242DB.4090607@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:24:43 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090614) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ABDFAE5.2090505@onetel.com> <20090928015625.GK29215@dan.emsphone.com> <20090928034452.GA1424@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20090928034452.GA1424@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: lacie external hard drive supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:24:45 -0000 Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009, Dan Nelson wrote: >> In the last episode (Sep 26), Chris Whitehouse said: >>> Hi all >>> >>> Does anyone have experience of a LaCie Hard Disk, Design by Neil Poulton >>> eSATA, FireWire 400 & Hi-Speed USB 2.0 1TB ? >>> >>> http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?pid=11064 >>> >>> Are all the interfaces supported? The data sheet says it is supported >>> under Linux. Does that mean it is safe to assume it is under FreeBSD? >> In general, you can assume that any SATA/SAS/firewire/usb hard drive will be >> supported. The only thing that might not be supported is RAID array >> management for the more expensive external units (you'll still be able to >> acess the data though). > > The LaCie drives typically come with utilities to make them > painless to use in a Mac OS X environment, but these can be > removed easily of one doesn't want to use them on OS X. > > We are using a 1TB LaCie quadra on Macs, and use the commercial > iPartition software which allows one to manipulate the boot > information to switch between PPC Mac and Intel as well as to > make a wide variety of partitions (even including Xenix if I > remember correctly :-). I haven't tried these with FreeBSD, but > it appears that it would allow moving the drive between Macs and > FreeBSD machines. > > I must say that I was impressed with the ability of iPartition > and the commercial Mac SuperDuper backup program which allowed me > to change the boot on the 1TB drive from booting on a PPC Mac to > boot on an Intel without losing any data, and to resize existing > partitions pretty painlessly as well. > > I use the word partition above in the Linux sense, which are > generally referred to as slices in FreeBSD-land. > > Bill Thanks very much for replies guys, sounds like it is safe to buy Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 17:31:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9B2106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C078FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78033DBC1; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:30:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8THUvaI001461; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:30:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:30:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Message-Id: <20090929193057.b889ea39.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:31:00 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:32:33 +0100, RW wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will > > keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately > > with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. > > Why? As far as I understood, the MBR is 512 bytes at the beginning of the disk. If you dd the disk with a bs != 512, it won't be transferred correctly, because in relation to the disk size you usually do something like bs=1m. So the commands would be: # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/mnt/ad0.mbr.dd bs=512 count=1 # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/mnt/ad0.dd bs=1m But I have to admit that I never tried it in reality. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 17:40:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BF51065676 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336DB8FC13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F34F3D751; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:40:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8THefLX001484; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:40:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:40:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bret Busby Message-Id: <20090929194041.befdad5c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4ABE4464.6000604@otenet.gr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:36:00 +0800 (WST), Bret Busby wrote: > See > http://busby.net/bret/Screenshot--dev-sda-GParted.png I think I do understand. You have: 1. a primary DOS partition which contains a NTFS file system 2. an extended DOS partition containing "subpartitions" with an ext3 partition a linux swap partition a FAT32 logical volume three further ext3 partitions So you should have two "slots" of primary DOS partitions. It is, of course, assumed that the "unallocated" part is NOT subpart of sda2, but of the whole disk sda. > However, with the response above, and, with all of the responses thus > far, to the query, it appears that I cannot install FreeBSD on the > computer, without a full system rebuild, involving removal of all of the > installed operating systems and software from the computer, then > repartitioning, or, slicing up, the hard drive, and then creating new > logical, extended partitions, and then reinstalling each of the > operating systems, and all of the software for each of the operating > systems, trying to ensure that I then have at least all of the software > that is currently installed on each operating system on the computer, > and, the data that is currently present on the computer. I think you're wrong. The installation should work. In order to test, fire up the FreeBSD installer from the CD and enter the slice editor. See if you can create a new slice - no slice will actually be created. However, keep a working (!) and tested (!) backup of your data at hand. Just in case. You won't need it, but HAVE it. :-) > Due to the time and effort involved, and the apparent complexity, it all > seems too difficult, to install BSD. I always thought it was complicated to install operating systems that require extended DOS partitions and logical volumes for their OS partitioning... :-) > If FreeBSD would be able to be installed in a logical partition, within > an extended partition, as can be done with Linux, it would probably be > able to be done by me - in the meantime, it is simply too difficult. At the moment, it can't. And due to the limitations that have artifically been brought into the PC world by DOS, I think it's sufficient for FreeBSD to require a primary DOS partition, i. e. its own slice, to be installed into. Honestly, I've never seen the need for extended DOS partitions. Let's say you intendedly want to run a multi-OS system, then you can install four systems, each one in its own slice, and within the slice, the partitiions, if needed and supported. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 17:57:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A551065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7428FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FEB34D417; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:57:26 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: =?koi8-r?B?J+HMxcvTxcXXIOHMxcvTwc7E0ic=?= , References: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:57:02 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpA94QMs1abhOItTQqcJcpuBs8lywANUEhw In-Reply-To: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: Subject: RE: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:57:27 -0000 >=20 > David Southwell =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > > Hi > > > > I installed bind96 without keeping base-bind and am now having=20 > > problems with some ports not compiling. > > > > What is the simpliest way to restore the original system Base_Bind? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > David > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > =20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > ???????? ????????? > Sent: 29 September 2009 03:52 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- =E9=D3=C8=CF=C4=CE=CF=C5 =D3=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5=CE=C9=C5 -------- > =F4=C5=CD=C1: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 - > =E4=C1=D4=C1: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:00 +0400 > =EF=D4: =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=C5=D7 =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2 = > =EB=CF=CD=D5: David Southwell > =F3=D3=D9=CC=CB=C9: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please let me see the error messages that occur when you're=20 > building ports. > What means base-bind? >=20 > -- > Alexandr A Alexeev > http://www.unixcommunity.net/=20 By base-bind I mean the version of bind that is included in freebsd 7.2 operating system which is a version earlier than the latest Bind96. When installing bind96 and I did not keep base-bind. Now multiple ports give the following type of problem -this is just one example.=20 _______________________________________________________ gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 compile stops with message: =3D=3D=3D> gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - = found gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1: bind installed with PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIOND causes build problems. *** error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs *** Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs _____________________________________________________ Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 18:00:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6067910656E3 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1740B8FC1A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so6436979yxe.3 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4KfZXR4jd3nfTtySpiD5J7klxIEv7v2Ap6Ur/1bPrjI=; b=KGcY/NmdJKJfiPd6gwCJAYIQwHqpsxU+CCJTmyOlft2s2KBfEabPpGK4mv6ZsCfuUF LcChiuMMGCCf7Q3K6DYzcXRrJCTZAjQGCtiN1OLmLTu7WANvXzKpHWY27XGDXKM27lkV FzeKFaisCjAHya2DR/0WzsxAExM/BvubdrI3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PFmfRKcjT0UGPE7BRf1EuTk6gFeEUP8/Jns6+jsqEHrymTKO8i4RzEY1d74RoZrdXf V/BgoEjhiaos1RgSbZ2jrEu3d7/MFM55rAsjavfI6V7ss7RqrbVwfqj0cMbxotVvUmpD lv9LIP9Sts/KUJYstBf77mX+dHU/cHYebgYJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.128.27 with SMTP id f27mr4869680ann.182.1254247243391; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090929194041.befdad5c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4ABE4464.6000604@otenet.gr> <20090929194041.befdad5c.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:00:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:00:46 -0000 On 9/29/09, Polytropon wrote: > Honestly, I've never seen the need for extended DOS partitions. > Let's say you intendedly want to run a multi-OS system, then > you can install four systems, each one in its own slice, and > within the slice, the partitiions, if needed and supported. By using BSD jargon, I will describe some other limitations, some of which you may not yet have gone through: The OS installer is given the opportunity to partition for you. If you tell Linux "to install" it can create multiple slices, eating up your 4 slices. If you setup 2 windows OSs, the 2nd OS gets added as an extended DOS slice. The limitation of not installing BSD into an extended DOS partition is a good decision. It makes it difficult for the MBR code to dissect the extended DOS partition to find the boot sector. I am 100% for the requirement of a slice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 18:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0321065692 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF338FC15 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68358 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Sep 2009 18:31:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254249075; bh=sawRLRSv6OfXI4Likv4WH0icafNTqmKcSdnF6iEOl+M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P+j38GDvd0y1NIyYndyWTrEo9wH3QTSFmlNXXsq9kQ8G8BSKJYAvpy/yM5/dxEPvIog0EHoya1IFd4OUvI4OQMHu25IO8X7uyeR5T2fLOrmgVoECkTi4+Ab/e3wq6E0SaokWNJL9FEsD8CmstyCqE2Xy5fdXfhHFh6EZZQasbTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w6XWPJjdaniVm3izEsGZDBcZ72jdt3q2nYj+mh1l1J+0xTWNlfoXbT+TeVnTtyYtL12u/3xPb807TFNp9/0Ex4NLPknhiTaA2iXce+P+iTXMV1V1YJwDXAQ+F/tth1lpfSKrJ+7L+eAk7bg0BnU5ag6wFTu+baqdwYS2abRlKmc=; Message-ID: <64434.68278.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NwSck_8VM1nzpfPtI_2oZHh0CSdnoY9Co5unYvT719Fw.4A2oUgmcY0UtjcxEQVRsZ31ZukiJEEAnyezV0ATmaKV8G.9qIq5mawgwdf7V32Xoho6l3TFKL0dj6p.ZXjncLQoheqJdN0tQEBdYv0E6rpniUnMCfKiaii9T0lNeGPXaJ9yLR96NEvASZfp5AW6I3i0Ogj6aMcIszqoZDHhQgIVBn0OnpwVTihhFKS5IZhqYDIcNFU5iJaN5z89xALrkSoTEbVT3V4LKOfMPl3zgwFWq1O0unA6DYfLpjvYDtc_h9zMaZGqoBcNjkx2leXztoxKtMdqgVJm3UDDtFZDGQSXZa0iOh52NY5WgKAPVtOLKCIFEx1PoWP_aHxa05tcnWzmRdc6.ljQVrhGF.WlnrYB70YMlMFxHNEs Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:31:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:31:14 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: NetGear WPN111 and FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:31:15 -0000 Thanks Warren, now how can I upgrade to 8 without destroying my current con= figuration? Leonardo M. Ram=E9 http://leonardorame.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Warren Block wrote: > From: Warren Block > Subject: Re: NetGear WPN111 and FreeBSD 7.2 > To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 9:56 AM > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Leonardo M. Ram? > wrote: >=20 > > Hi, I just bought an NetGear WPN111 USB Wireless > adapter after reading the Wireless Networking section of the > workbook, but unfortunately I can't make it work. > > > > I included this in my /boot/loader.conf: > > > > if_ath_load=3D"YES" > > wlan_scan_ap_load=3D"YES" > > wlan_scan_sta_load=3D"YES" > > wlan_wep_load=3D"YES" > > wlan_ccmp_load=3D"YES" > > wlan_tkip_load=3D"YES" > > > > The card is recognized as ugen1, but I can't do a > ifconfig ugen1 up. Does anyone uses this card? >=20 > The driver is uath, but it is apparently only in FreeBSD > 8. >=20 > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 18:46:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722A31065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0938FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1175258fxm.36 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.211.38 with SMTP id j38mr4515383fgg.26.1254250004947; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm58157fga.13.2009.09.29.11.46.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:46:41 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: David Southwell Message-ID: <20090929184641.GA17580@haydn.nognu.de> References: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: '???????? ?????????' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:46:47 -0000 David Southwell wrote: > By base-bind I mean the version of bind that is included in freebsd 7.2 > operating system which is a version earlier than the latest Bind96. > > When installing bind96 and I did not keep base-bind. > > Now multiple ports give the following type of problem -this is just one > example. > _______________________________________________________ > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 > > compile stops with message: > > ===> gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - found > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1: bind installed with PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIOND causes > build problems. > *** error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > *** Error Code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > _____________________________________________________ You should be able to restore the bind from base by using the install.sh script in /usr/src/contrib/bind9. Deinstall the port first, though. > Thanks > > David Cheers, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 19:17:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCE3106566B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4822D8FC1E for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1932398and.13 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8DoFh3et2VJt/MIkl2TikbB6s/Yvqtl8l64TXVMLr/E=; b=Rl2yNu3MVSdkm5f+gfv6fJPqvMnVgfNeWbQza25M/NnPvz7+AcCM5T/AdCPjU0yYJu 1ubQX3H0dsr93kZ469zRoP5XVgLxBiKh5wlajdGtxzg66LYJcMwMpJ8B8Dhtf9KZxXE/ JY0tFsgl6sqK2IBIFqS4Mw9dWb5Wx6aNGK4PY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DeU6nXinh5D5kpuVjKGcvMnEGM93+Okr+pBv/pcTKnOeSSRQWOjacDqulFng1FerdR 7s163cIlAZY3EW4xl3SelXeFwlYES7uwdee3iAjGu1nns9XGwom1cIpicmEyTIJIhAbN SZiYWOJ9C7PXDli+K0BVSlqWMtyH7+KyErEAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.55.17 with SMTP id d17mr4973743ana.118.1254251838138; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags ERROR when using Sysinstall to format HD (FreeBsd 7.2 STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:19 -0000 Hi folks!! Trying to create a new Ufs on a HD using sysinstall. im getting the following error: ERROR: Unable to write data to disk ad10! =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2= =94=82 =E2=94=82To edit the labels on a running system set =E2= =94=82 =E2=94=82sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D16 and try again any ideas? Cheers! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 19:20:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0541065679 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628418FC2A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TJKQV2015965; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:20:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n8TJKQV2015965 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1254252026; bh=nYE2gvswiaEf267i2uIwFpn/wxFoxV6v22QXr1huacA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AC25DF1.6070002@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2029=20Sep=202009=2020:20:17=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Jeronimo=20Calvo=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subj ect:=20Re:=20sysctl=20kern.geom.debugflags=20ERROR=20when=20using= 20Sysinstall=20to=20format=0D=0A=20HD=20(FreeBsd=207.2=20STABLE)|R eferences:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20m ultipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"ap plication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig7F 5AA7A7D5DC7C167B5E5EC7"; b=RJFUTNEHKG+PPlSw+qf3EJq35OdYKy0VNDe+jjXeYhr2N9R0zft7OAoEqj5U6udPg 3JL35/boOpb6CEh1IOjj64FXSlpuYWkUiIwOhHUdxYqtn+N2kGuHrFRd/sKdTTLIBn SR2/V+ijbDR09HFlfOkiu2pXJ+UMRCs/JS0peQmA= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AC25DF1.6070002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:20:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeronimo Calvo References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7F5AA7A7D5DC7C167B5E5EC7" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags ERROR when using Sysinstall to format HD (FreeBsd 7.2 STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:20:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7F5AA7A7D5DC7C167B5E5EC7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeronimo Calvo wrote: > Hi folks!! >=20 > Trying to create a new Ufs on a HD using sysinstall. im getting the > following error: >=20 > ERROR: Unable to write data to disk ad10! =E2=94=82 > =E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 > =E2=94=82To edit the labels on a running system set = =E2=94=82 > =E2=94=82sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D16 and try again >=20 >=20 > any ideas? >=20 At a guess, I'd say you need to set sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D16 and try again... Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7F5AA7A7D5DC7C167B5E5EC7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrCXfoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxLlwCeNHOtg14NzXX7z5s5/9wZIvQ1 kLQAn2VI1LmpaVECVIGNZG8cslcj2Jfb =01rN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7F5AA7A7D5DC7C167B5E5EC7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 20:06:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4D11065747 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7928FC20 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D116734D417; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:06:10 +0100 (BST) From: To: "'Frank Steinborn'" References: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru> <20090929184641.GA17580@haydn.nognu.de> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:05:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1B6DC3865C3A46D0A1863A674C6CEAA4@sleuth64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpBNUICvmPKvbRwSEK2nmLrayI2ywACoCPQ In-Reply-To: <20090929184641.GA17580@haydn.nognu.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:06:12 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Steinborn > Sent: 29 September 2009 11:47 > To: David Southwell > Cc: '???????? ?????????'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 > > David Southwell wrote: > > By base-bind I mean the version of bind that is included in freebsd > > 7.2 operating system which is a version earlier than the > latest Bind96. > > > > When installing bind96 and I did not keep base-bind. > > > > Now multiple ports give the following type of problem -this is just > > one example. > > _______________________________________________________ > > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 > > > > compile stops with message: > > > > ===> gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - > > found > > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1: bind installed with PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIOND > > causes build problems. > > *** error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > > *** Error Code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > > _____________________________________________________ > > You should be able to restore the bind from base by using the > install.sh script in /usr/src/contrib/bind9. Deinstall the > port first, though. > ThanksI deinstalled the port and tried to run install-sh # sh install-sh and got the response: > install: no input file specified Any chance you might make me a little wiser on how to use install-sh?\ Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 23:18:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82195106568B for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264CE8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8TMxNq1001875 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:59:23 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:59:23 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.037 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:18:26 -0000 I have several related problems with hald on 7.2 i386. First, on one machine (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2), hald will not start at startup, nor by executing the startup script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start. It doesn't exit with any error code: it simply produces no output at all, and ps -ax | grep hal shows that it didn't start. Incidentally, the dbus and cupsd scripts in the same directory also do nothing. On the other machine, however (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE), hald doesn't *build*. It errors out with: /usr/local/lib/libpolkit.so: undefined reference to `strndup@FBSD_1.1' gmake[4]: *** [hald] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. This machine was a new install from the 7.2 i386 CD, so to save time I used packages that had already been built on the first machine. All of these packages were built within a day of each other, from a previously updated ports tree with all previously installed packages removed. Xorg and hald and dbus and everything related installed just fine, and Xorg works, except that the mouse doesn't work, which I suspect is caused by hald not working. On this machine, the hald that was compiled on the first machine won't start, this time giving an error: root@nimue /usr/local/etc/rc.d # ./hald start Starting hald. root@nimue /usr/local/etc/rc.d # /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libc.so.7: version FBSD_1.1 required by /usr/local/lib/libpolkit.so.2 not found Any thoughts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 23:40:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F98C1065676 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006A68FC20 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TNe6Xf044675; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8TNe62U044672; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909290714u7f7a8e84u9fa64c981f0f149e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6201873e0909290714u7f7a8e84u9fa64c981f0f149e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-482857619-1254267606=:44648" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Jeronimo Calvo Subject: Re: Anyone using two monitors as extended desktop under FreeBSD?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:40:08 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-482857619-1254267606=:44648 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> That looks like a simple splitter that will just send the same signal >> to both monitors.  They would both display the same image, not an >> extended desktop. > > That's what I thought too prior to hooking it up and trying it.  Since > then, I found DVI is able to detect separate output devices and send > the appropriate signal to each device.   Interesting. The DVI pinout shows that it has two sets of digital signals, so this cable probably just splits them out to a connector each for link 1 and link 2. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ---902635197-482857619-1254267606=:44648-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 23:44:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4F1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DFC8FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:44:37 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQR00JDHBACVZ30@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:38 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:44:37 -0000 I am getting more and more confused with all the info regarding backing up and cloning or moving systems from disk to disk or computer to computer. I would like to do 2 things: 1. clone several instances of 7.2 from and existing installation 2. set up a backup script to back up changes either every night or once a week There are numerous solutions out there; but they are mostly confusing, erroneous or non functional. To start, could someone please explail to the the following, which I found here:http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=185 You can move system from disk to disk on fly with Code: $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target $ cd /target $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - you can do the same using sudo Code: $ sudo echo $ sudo dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | sudo restore -rf - This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from where to where? Could someone clarify all this for me? So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L option. I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with 7.2 minimal installation. Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use -L when dumping live filesystems) Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? But if you are restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to restore to another disk than the one the system is on? I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and dumpt to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and install in another box and boot from that? Am I getting close? I know it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 00:13:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582D6106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA318FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U0DJYk044784; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U0DJNt044781; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:13:22 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, PJ wrote: > I am getting more and more confused with all the info regarding backing > up and cloning or moving systems from disk to disk or computer to computer. > I would like to do 2 things: > 1. clone several instances of 7.2 from and existing installation > 2. set up a backup script to back up changes either every night or once > a week > > There are numerous solutions out there; but they are mostly confusing, > erroneous or non functional. > To start, could someone please explail to the the following, which I > found here:http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=185 > > You can move system from disk to disk on fly with > Code: > > $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a > $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target > $ cd /target > $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. > As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. > Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from > where to where? dump is reading /dev/ad1s1a and using stdout for output. restore is writing to the current directory (/target) and is reading from stdin. > Could someone clarify all this for me? > So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L > option. It's hard to help without knowing the exact commands you are using and the errors they are producing. Help us to help you by posting them. > I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap > to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with > 7.2 minimal installation. A minimal install makes it easier. You don't need to copy /tmp, either. > Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use > -L when dumping live filesystems) Right. So what happens when you use -L? A long pause while the system makes a snapshot is normal. > Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? The first time. But your minimal install already did that for you. > But if you are restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to > restore to another disk than the one the system is on? Nope. You can overwrite the running system. I restore in /usr, /var, and then / order. Then reboot and you are running the new clone. > I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and > dumpt to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and > install in another box and boot from that? Am I getting close? I know > it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) It's usually best to limit messages to a single question. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 00:15:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4729910656C1 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B598FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U0F1Tt044797; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U0F1MP044794; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: RW In-Reply-To: <20090929120406.269d3505@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090929120406.269d3505@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:15:03 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, RW wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, RW wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:22:31 +0200 >>> Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> doing 1:1 copies with dd is always possible and will >>>> keep content identically; remember to copy the MBR separately >>>> with bs=512 and count=1 from the /dev/ad{source} device. >>> >>> Why? >> >> Because it contains the partition table. > > Right, but why separately, rather than with the rest of the disk? For me, it would be because dealing with an individual 512-byte partition table file is easier than decompressing a multi-gigabyte image file to get at the first 512 bytes. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 00:30:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4B61065679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D44C8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024E63D662; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U0UqKZ001485; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:30:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:30:54 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:38 -0400, PJ wrote: > This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. > As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. No. The newfs program does create a new file system. In other terminology, this can be called a formatting process. Note that NOT a slice, but a PARTITION is subject to this process. So # newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a does format the first partition (a) of the first slice (s1) of the third disk (ad2). > Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from > where to where? According to the command # dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - you need to understand that the main purpose of dump is to dump unmounted (!) file systems to the system's tape drive. Assuming nobody uses tape drives anymore, you need to specify another file, which is the standard output in this case, which may not be obvious, but it is if we reorder the command line: # dump -0 -L - a -u -f - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -r -f - You can see that -f - specifies - to be the file to backup to. The backup comes from /dev/ad1s1a. The restore program, on the other side of the | pipe, does usually read from the system's tape drive. But in this case, it reads from standard input as the -f - command line option indicates. It restores the data to where the working directory at the moment is. Here's an example (ad1 is source disk, ad2 is target disk): # newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt # cd /mnt # dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > Could someone clarify all this for me? Hopefully hereby done. :-) > So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L > option. Always keep in mind: Use dump only on unmounted partitions. > I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap > to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with > 7.2 minimal installation. I think that's not possible because dump operates on file system level, which means on partitions, not on slices. > Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use > -L when dumping live filesystems) Keep an eye on terminology, you're swapping them here: The devices ad2s1[defg] are partitions, not slices. The corresponding slice that holds them is ad2s1. Anyway, if you can, don't dump mounted file systems. Go into single user mode, mount / as ro, and run dump + restore. If you can, use a live system from CD, DVD or USB, which makes things easier. > Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? Partitions. You don't have to newfs them once they are formatted. It's just the usual way to ensure they are free of any data. > But if you are > restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to restore to another > disk than the one the system is on? I don't understand this question right... if you're using a running system for dump + restore - which is the system you want to be the source system, then do it in minimal condition. SUM is the most convenient way to do that, with all partitions unmounted, and only / in read-only mode so you can access the dump and restore binaries. > I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and dumpt > to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and install in > another box and boot from that? > Am I getting close? Again, I'm not sure I understood you correctly. If you've done the dump + restore correctly, you always end up with a bootable system, so you can boot it in another box. Dumping and restoring just requires a running system, no matter if it is the source system itself or a live system from CD, DVD or USB. (I prefer tools like FreeSBIE for such tasks, but the FreeBSD live system CD is fine, too.) As far as I now understood, you don't want to clone from source disk to target disk, but use a USB "transfer disk"; in this case, you first need to clone onto this disk, and then use it in the other computers to fill their disks with the copy you made from your "master system". As a sidenote, it's worth mentioning that this can be achieved in an easier way: You create a minimal bootable FreeBSD on this USB disk, in case your computers can boot from it; if not, use a live system to boot the computers. Then, format the USB disk with only one file system (e. g. /dev/da0) and put dump files onto it, so they are available then as /mnt/root.dump, tmp.dump, var.dump, usr.dump and home.dump. Instead of using -f - for the dump and restore program, use those file names. > I know it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) If you still have questions, try to ask them as precise as possible. I may add that this list is the most friendly and intelligent community to ask, so you're definitely at the right place here. To illustrate a dump and restore process that involves several partitions, just let me add this example: Stage 1: Initialize slice and partitions # fdisk -I -B ad1 # bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 # bsdlabel -e ad1s1 a: 512M * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 b: 1024M * swap c: * * unused <--- don't change e: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 f: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 g: 10G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 h: * * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 ^KX (means: save & exit) # newfs /dev/ad1s1a # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1e # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1f # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1g # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1h Stage 2: Go into SUM and prepare the source partitions # shutdown now # umount /home # umount /usr # umount /var # umount /tmp # mount -r / # fsck / /tmp /var /usr /home Stage 3: Start dumping and restoring the partitions # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt # cd /mnt # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - At this point, /mnt will have the content of / and therefore the mountpoints for the other partitions, the former /tmp, /var, /usr and /home, will be available. # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp # cd /mnt/tmp # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var # cd /mnt/var # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr # cd /mnt/usr # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home # cd /mnt/home # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f - Stage 4: Umount disks and shut down the system # cd / # umount /mnt/home # umount /mnt/usr # umount /mnt/var # umount /mnt/tmp # umount /mnt # sync # shutdown -p now Now you can take out the disk and use it in another computer. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 00:41:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993CF1065676 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EB98FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33EC3D751; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:41:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U0fb79001519; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:41:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:41:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090930024137.7bf5306d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929023233.69b37187@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090929120406.269d3505@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:41:39 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:00 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > For me, it would be because dealing with an individual 512-byte > partition table file is easier than decompressing a multi-gigabyte image > file to get at the first 512 bytes. There is a point where a dd copy of the MBR is quite useful, this is when some MICROS~1 system messed up the MBR and you just want to restore it as it was - when it was completely fine. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:09:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2966E1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FBA8FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U19pKO045034; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U19p5U045031; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:09:57 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: >> So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L >> option. > > Always keep in mind: Use dump only on unmounted partitions. That is unnecessary. The -L option is there just for dumping mounted filesystems. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:26:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFBF106568F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FB38FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQR00K9HFZSVVA0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:19 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Warren Block References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:26:17 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, PJ wrote: > >> I am getting more and more confused with all the info regarding backing >> up and cloning or moving systems from disk to disk or computer to >> computer. >> I would like to do 2 things: >> 1. clone several instances of 7.2 from and existing installation >> 2. set up a backup script to back up changes either every night or once >> a week >> >> There are numerous solutions out there; but they are mostly confusing, >> erroneous or non functional. >> To start, could someone please explail to the the following, which I >> found here:http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=185 >> >> You can move system from disk to disk on fly with >> Code: >> >> $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a >> $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target >> $ cd /target >> $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > >> This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. >> As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. >> Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from >> where to where? > > dump is reading /dev/ad1s1a and using stdout for output. > restore is writing to the current directory (/target) and is reading > from stdin. But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can it be dumped if its been formatted? And what exactly does stdout mean? What is dump doing? outputting what to where exactly? I don't see it or should I say, understand this at all.and then the restore is from what to where? > >> Could someone clarify all this for me? >> So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L >> option. > > It's hard to help without knowing the exact commands you are using and > the errors they are producing. Help us to help you by posting them. > >> I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap >> to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with >> 7.2 minimal installation. > > A minimal install makes it easier. You don't need to copy /tmp, either. > >> Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use >> -L when dumping live filesystems) > > Right. So what happens when you use -L? "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 do you want to restart:" The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) > A long pause while the system makes a snapshot is normal. And what's this about a snapshot? AFAIK, I'm not making a snapshot; anyway, there is no long pause except for the dumb look on my face upon seeing these messages. As it is, I am currently erasing the brand new 500gb disk on which I want to restore. Things started out really bad... don't u;nderstand what is going on. I installed a minimal 7.2, booted up and turned to another computer to do some serious work. About 2 hours and 49 minutes later I notice messages on the 7.2 about a page fault or something like that and then the system reboots. Obviously with errors... but then I reboot again and it comes up... I tried som copying from another disk and ended up with the disk all screwed up... yet the Seagate Seatools for Dos doesnt find any errors on it; Partition magic found an error but couldn't fix it, so now Im wiping the whole thing and will try to reinstall tomorrow. Doesn't make sense. > >> Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? > > The first time. But your minimal install already did that for you. > >> But if you are restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to >> restore to another disk than the one the system is on? > > Nope. You can overwrite the running system. I restore in /usr, /var, > and then / order. Then reboot and you are running the new clone. > >> I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and >> dumpt to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and >> install in another box and boot from that? Am I getting close? I know >> it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) > > It's usually best to limit messages to a single question. Sure, I agree... but when things are really complicated... I, at least, don't know how to separate them when they are quite interdependent. Thanks for responding. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:38:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D4106568F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741728FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BEF3A3844; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:24 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254274704; x= 1256089104; bh=aRHqcHYVG79xyU5rdUDay7xUkThQ9NGcGPCVZwlZC7A=; b=F Sa7ujAw8KrEeDi8pvUJoNFeNDaYkbfXmfvGOwUUBhBqKfMQd3ikjyYzA1L5UA1qt aI9T1r/Xxg1bTHzqDQQpqKgr8Nlwuu5Byqbsf3jO028bBD1vq/HaZcnZ70+95VpB Yt8OP8XUTbgTXbl6JysedEMvvxmNbG2t6wHa1dTRX4= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 0593AZ7PVJeP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80A9E3A383A; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:23 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8U1cLnP000858; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:21 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:21 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200909300138.n8U1cLnP000858@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: af.gourmet@videotron.ca In-reply-to: <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> (message from PJ on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:19 -0400) References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:38:26 -0000 > >> $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a > >> $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target > >> $ cd /target > >> $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > >[...] > But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can Thats ad*1*s1a that has just been formatted, not ad2... Best, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:46:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D01065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@ch23.org) Received: from authsmtp.register.it (paganini09-authsmtp.register.it [81.88.48.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D06E8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7265 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2009 01:46:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.112?) (smtp@ch23.org@82.60.234.157) by authsmtp.register.it with ESMTPA; 30 Sep 2009 01:46:34 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC2B87A.7050407@ch23.org> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:46:34 +0200 From: Mauro Rezzonico Organization: Channel23 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:46:37 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > The intent here is to connect about 10 Web servers, each of them hosting about 200 domains, to a central storage system to house users home directories. > It might be worth noting that the Web machines host a full array of software, i.e. Mail, Web, MySQL, PHP etc. I don't have an answer, bu I have a question, probably a naive one and even slightly OT.. If the 200 domains are hosting MySQL driven web applications (let's say 200 Wordpress), then perhaps they are connecting to the very same MySQL instance, so ALL their databases are in the same mysql_dbdir, and perhaps the dbdir is /var/db/mysql... So: how do you deal things like that with MySQL driven web applications? How are you going to deal the mysql_dbdir issue? NFS perhaps is not the best filesystem for MySQL tables (performance-wise)... Are you going to 'mysqldump' the databases back in each home dir? Periodically? And keep the databases on the local disks? -- Mauro Rezzonico , Como, Italia "Maybe this world is another planet's hell" - H.Huxley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:49:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8863C106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BB58FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0170A3A3844; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:49:29 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254275369; x= 1256089769; bh=CRy9kGu0EOIdDbmjbAWNbaN7YTHWOlyr3kQ+cCkGaZs=; b=n knLdtROl8gKzzMN++wzitbbP2VEHCxjgHH7ozl12iHDlDtZiWIaNK61M/X5l6o4Z hgocOjI+M2sefE7kwKEQYTGrUbR0OimbmQ4yLAOcLAcUOcMPng9VdcD7X9818UX6 M/XCTL6y3g2PJSQGe1DKT8cHAwYWAMsBCpOyIdtyQ4= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id W1Ms9Gsz4VRS; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:49:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BA003A383A; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:49:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8U1nSBh000939; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:49:28 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:49:28 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200909300149.n8U1nSBh000939@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: gpeel@thenetnow.com In-reply-to: (gpeel@thenetnow.com) References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:32 -0000 Hi, > For the past few months I have been researching methods to create a > storage enclosure, perferably with out spending many 10s of k's of > $'s. You can asemble the machine yourself, I have put up a storage (for back-up, slow SATA disks, 7.5 TB, only one quad core AMD 1.9 GHz and 4GB RAM) for 2K$. You can consider running freenas, based on FreeBSD, on the system. Best, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 01:55:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F561065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D1D8FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66D91EA36; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:55:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U1tA3l004454; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:55:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:55:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090930035510.79eb61c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:55:13 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > >> So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L > >> option. > > > > Always keep in mind: Use dump only on unmounted partitions. > > That is unnecessary. The -L option is there just for dumping mounted > filesystems. You're right, but -L does require a certain time to create the snapshot. Of course that's not problematic when you need to do this only once. In other situations, especially when you're able to boot from something else than the system you want to clone, using the "pure" unmounted partitions is more convenient. This is only my very individual opinion. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 02:07:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF5C1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CB78FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054D621B0B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U27XBs005272; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:07:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:07:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:07:55 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:19 -0400, PJ wrote: > But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can > it be dumped if its been formatted? When you're working on this low level, triple-check all your commands. Failure to do so can cause data loss. In the example you presented, ad1 was the source disk, ad2 the target disk. You DON'T want to newfs your source disk. > And what exactly does stdout mean? This refers to the standard output. In most cases, this is the terminal, the screen, such as # cat /etc/fstab will write the /etc/fstab to stdout. If you redirect it, for example by using > or |, you can make stdout a file, or the input - stdin - for another program. This is how the dump | restore process works: It leaves out the "use the tape" or "use the file", but instead directs the output of dump - the dump itself - to the restore program as input to be restored. > What is dump doing? outputting what to where exactly? The dump program is outputting a dump of the specified partition to the standard output, which in this case is directly trans- mitted to the restore program, which "picks it up" and processes it = restores it. > I don't see it or > should I say, understand this at all. Have a look at the command line again, simplified: # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - Run the dump program, do a full backup of the 1st partition of the 1st slice of the 1st disk, write this dump to the standard output, pipe this output to the restore program, do a full restore, read the dump to be restored from standard input. > and then the restore is from what > to where? The restore program gets the dump to be restored from the standard input - remember, that's the output of the dump program - and writes it to the current working directory. That's the reason why you should always check with # pwd in which directory you're currently located, because that will be the place where the restored data will appear. > "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 > do you want to restart:" Could you present the command you're actually using, especially with where you issued it from? > The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... > Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly > not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) I'm not sure where you put the dump file. "Write error" seems to indicate one of the following problems: a) The snapshot cannot be created. b) The dump file cannot be created. > And what's this about a snapshot? AFAIK, I'm not making a snapshot; > anyway, there is no long pause except for the dumb look on my face upon > seeing these messages. Check "man dump" and search for the -L option. The dump program, in order to obtain a dump from a file system that's currently in use, will need to make a snapshot because it cannot handle data that is changing. So it will dump the data with the state of the snapshot, allowing the file system to be altered afterwards. > As it is, I am currently erasing the brand new 500gb disk on which I > want to restore. Excellent. > Things started out really bad... don't u;nderstand what is going on. Polite question: Have you read the manpages and the section in the Handbook? > I > installed a minimal 7.2, booted up and turned to another computer to do > some serious work. About 2 hours and 49 minutes later I notice messages > on the 7.2 about a page fault or something like that and then the system > reboots. This often indicates a hardware problem... > Obviously with errors... but then I reboot again and it comes > up... I tried som copying from another disk and ended up with the disk > all screwed up... How that? > yet the Seagate Seatools for Dos doesnt find any > errors on it; There's smartmontools (program: smartctl) for FreeBSD in the ports. It can check various errors of modern hard disks. > Partition magic found an error but couldn't fix it, so now > Im wiping the whole thing and will try to reinstall tomorrow. Doesn't > make sense. What error was this? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 02:22:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842511065676 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554A78FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:22:59 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQR00MKSIM99DD0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Polytropon References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-reply-to: <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:22:59 -0000 You are a Master among masters... extraordianry understanding of the genre and ver, very clear explanations... I guess my filter between the brain and the computer is a bit foggy... :-( I really appreciate your explanations. But I still have a couple of small questions below... Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:38 -0400, PJ wrote: >> This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. >> As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. > > No. The newfs program does create a new file system. In > other terminology, this can be called a formatting process. > Note that NOT a slice, but a PARTITION is subject to this > process. So > > # newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a > > does format the first partition (a) of the first slice (s1) > of the third disk (ad2). > > > >> Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from >> where to where? > > According to the command > > # dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > > you need to understand that the main purpose of dump is to > dump unmounted (!) file systems to the system's tape drive. > Assuming nobody uses tape drives anymore, you need to specify > another file, which is the standard output in this case, which > may not be obvious, but it is if we reorder the command line: > > # dump -0 -L - a -u -f - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -r -f - > > You can see that -f - specifies - to be the file to backup to. > The backup comes from /dev/ad1s1a. > > The restore program, on the other side of the | pipe, does > usually read from the system's tape drive. But in this case, > it reads from standard input as the -f - command line option > indicates. It restores the data to where the working directory > at the moment is. > > Here's an example (ad1 is source disk, ad2 is target disk): > > # newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a > # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > >> Could someone clarify all this for me? > > Hopefully hereby done. :-) I feel a bit stupid, as usual, my carelessness led me to miss the difference between ad1 and ad2... dumb, dumb, dumb. Ok, so I see that this works if you have two different drives on the same machine... But... 2 questions: 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f and g slices or is it partitions? > >> So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L >> option. > > Always keep in mind: Use dump only on unmounted partitions. > >> I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap >> to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with >> 7.2 minimal installation. > > I think that's not possible because dump operates on file system > level, which means on partitions, not on slices. I've been very confused with the slices/partitions. I meant above, to dump the whole slice - but I guess that it has to be done with the partitions. >> Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use >> -L when dumping live filesystems) and when I do dump -0Laf /dev /ad1s1a /dev/da0s1a the errors are "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 do you want to restart:" The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) > > Keep an eye on terminology, you're swapping them here: The > devices ad2s1[defg] are partitions, not slices. The corresponding > slice that holds them is ad2s1. Sorry; now it's getting clearer. > > Anyway, if you can, don't dump mounted file systems. Go into > single user mode, mount / as ro, and run dump + restore. If you > can, use a live system from CD, DVD or USB, which makes things > easier. > >> Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? > > Partitions. You don't have to newfs them once they are formatted. > It's just the usual way to ensure they are free of any data. > >> But if you are >> restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to restore to another >> disk than the one the system is on? > > I don't understand this question right... if you're using a running > system for dump + restore - which is the system you want to be the > source system, then do it in minimal condition. SUM is the most > convenient way to do that, with all partitions unmounted, and > only / in read-only mode so you can access the dump and restore > binaries. > >> I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and dumpt >> to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and install in >> another box and boot from that? >> Am I getting close? > > Again, I'm not sure I understood you correctly. If you've done > the dump + restore correctly, you always end up with a bootable > system, so you can boot it in another box. Dumping and restoring > just requires a running system, no matter if it is the source > system itself or a live system from CD, DVD or USB. (I prefer > tools like FreeSBIE for such tasks, but the FreeBSD live system > CD is fine, too.) > > As far as I now understood, you don't want to clone from source > disk to target disk, but use a USB "transfer disk"; in this case, > you first need to clone onto this disk, and then use it in the > other computers to fill their disks with the copy you made from > your "master system". > > As a sidenote, it's worth mentioning that this can be achieved > in an easier way: You create a minimal bootable FreeBSD on this > USB disk, in case your computers can boot from it; if not, use > a live system to boot the computers. Then, format the USB disk > with only one file system (e. g. /dev/da0) and put dump files > onto it, so they are available then as /mnt/root.dump, tmp.dump, > var.dump, usr.dump and home.dump. Instead of using -f - for the > dump and restore program, use those file names. > >> I know it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) > > If you still have questions, try to ask them as precise as > possible. > > I may add that this list is the most friendly and intelligent > community to ask, so you're definitely at the right place here. > > > To illustrate a dump and restore process that involves several > partitions, just let me add this example: > > Stage 1: Initialize slice and partitions > # fdisk -I -B ad1 > # bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 > # bsdlabel -e ad1s1 > a: 512M * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > b: 1024M * swap > c: * * unused <--- don't change > e: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > f: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > g: 10G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > h: * * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > ^KX (means: save & exit) > # newfs /dev/ad1s1a > # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1e > # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1f > # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1g > # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1h > > Stage 2: Go into SUM and prepare the source partitions why into SUM? I'm really the only user and I usually stay as root???? if SUM, shouldn't the # below be $? So, ad1 is the target disk and ad0 is the source? I don't follow the next sequence... after shutdown, boot in SUM? the following commands ($ instead of # ?) would be on the source (ad0 ?) What is happening with the umount commands below? And the mount -r / ? The fsck is to clean the partitions, right? > # shutdown now > # umount /home > # umount /usr > # umount /var > # umount /tmp > # mount -r / > # fsck / /tmp /var /usr /home > > Stage 3: Start dumping and restoring the partitions > # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > At this point, /mnt will have the content of / and > therefore the mountpoints for the other partitions, > the former /tmp, /var, /usr and /home, will be > available. > # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp > # cd /mnt/tmp > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f - > # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var > # cd /mnt/var > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f - > # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr > # cd /mnt/usr > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f - > # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home > # cd /mnt/home > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f - > > Stage 4: Umount disks and shut down the system > # cd / > # umount /mnt/home > # umount /mnt/usr > # umount /mnt/var > # umount /mnt/tmp > # umount /mnt > # sync > # shutdown -p now > > Now you can take out the disk and use it in another computer. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 02:29:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DE81065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2938FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:29:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQR00AZLIXBDJI0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC2C292.10005@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:29:38 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Olivier Nicole References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <200909300138.n8U1cLnP000858@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-reply-to: <200909300138.n8U1cLnP000858@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:29:36 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >>>> $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a >>>> $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target >>>> $ cd /target >>>> $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - >>>> >>> [...] >>> >> But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can >> > > Thats ad*1*s1a that has just been formatted, not ad2... > > Best, > > Olivier > > Thanks for that. It took me a while to see that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 02:48:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0BD106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4C58FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:48:28 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQR00G72JSRJK80@VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:48:30 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Polytropon References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-reply-to: <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:48:28 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:19 -0400, PJ wrote: > >> But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can >> it be dumped if its been formatted? >> > > When you're working on this low level, triple-check all your > commands. Failure to do so can cause data loss. In the example > you presented, ad1 was the source disk, ad2 the target disk. > You DON'T want to newfs your source disk. > > >> And what exactly does stdout mean? >> > > This refers to the standard output. In most cases, this is the > terminal, the screen, such as > > # cat /etc/fstab > > will write the /etc/fstab to stdout. If you redirect it, for > example by using > or |, you can make stdout a file, or the > input - stdin - for another program. > > This is how the dump | restore process works: It leaves out > the "use the tape" or "use the file", but instead directs the > output of dump - the dump itself - to the restore program as > input to be restored. > > > > >> What is dump doing? outputting what to where exactly? >> > > The dump program is outputting a dump of the specified partition > to the standard output, which in this case is directly trans- > mitted to the restore program, which "picks it up" and processes > it = restores it. > > > > >> I don't see it or >> should I say, understand this at all. >> > > Have a look at the command line again, simplified: > > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > Run the dump program, do a full backup of the 1st partition of > the 1st slice of the 1st disk, write this dump to the standard > output, pipe this output to the restore program, do a full > restore, read the dump to be restored from standard input. > > > > >> and then the restore is from what >> to where? >> > > The restore program gets the dump to be restored from the standard > input - remember, that's the output of the dump program - and > writes it to the current working directory. That's the reason > why you should always check with > > # pwd > > in which directory you're currently located, because that will > be the place where the restored data will appear. > > > > >> "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 >> do you want to restart:" >> > > Could you present the command you're actually using, especially > with where you issued it from? > Duh.... I think I see where this is leading... I'm pretty sure it was issued from / which makes it redundant, right? I should have issued it from somewhere else, like from home, usr or whatever but not from / as that is what I was trying to dump.... :-[ > > > >> The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... >> Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly >> not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) >> > > I'm not sure where you put the dump file. "Write error" seems > to indicate one of the following problems: > a) The snapshot cannot be created. > b) The dump file cannot be created. > > > > >> And what's this about a snapshot? AFAIK, I'm not making a snapshot; >> anyway, there is no long pause except for the dumb look on my face upon >> seeing these messages. >> > > Check "man dump" and search for the -L option. The dump program, > in order to obtain a dump from a file system that's currently in > use, will need to make a snapshot because it cannot handle data > that is changing. So it will dump the data with the state of the > snapshot, allowing the file system to be altered afterwards. > > > > >> As it is, I am currently erasing the brand new 500gb disk on which I >> want to restore. >> > > Excellent. > > > > >> Things started out really bad... don't u;nderstand what is going on. >> > > Polite question: Have you read the manpages and the section in the > Handbook? > Yes... but my brain can't handle it all so quickly... and being as impatient as I am, I tend to miss things on the run... it usually comes to me sooner or later... unfortunately, it's more often later than sooner... I've been reading the stuff in the man pages, and getting more confused by googling... Actually, I've been trying to get things straightened ot for at least 3 days already. > > > >> I >> installed a minimal 7.2, booted up and turned to another computer to do >> some serious work. About 2 hours and 49 minutes later I notice messages >> on the 7.2 about a page fault or something like that and then the system >> reboots. >> > > This often indicates a hardware problem... > Well, that's why I'm really checking my new disk... but it could be the motherboard... I've always suspected it had something of a glitch in it ever since I got it... I don't think just a slower cpu should give it so many problems... a twin computer has the same hardware except for the cpu and it gives far less problems - only MS related. > > > >> Obviously with errors... but then I reboot again and it comes >> up... I tried som copying from another disk and ended up with the disk >> all screwed up... >> > > How that? > > > > >> yet the Seagate Seatools for Dos doesnt find any >> errors on it; >> > > There's smartmontools (program: smartctl) for FreeBSD in the ports. > It can check various errors of modern hard disks. > > > > >> Partition magic found an error but couldn't fix it, so now >> Im wiping the whole thing and will try to reinstall tomorrow. Doesn't >> make sense. >> > > What error was this? > Something about a boot sector - this is not the first time I have seen this identical error but on much older hdd's, though still satas. This does make me think that these problems are of hardware origin - motherboard or sata connectors - I find they are rather Disneyesque (Mickey Mouse) or just plain flimsy. Time to hit the sack... another day of computer frustration coming up... I'm under pressure to lear Flash and have to set up a reliable server to test a site I am designing and setting up. Have to do it myself... can't afford about anything today. :-( Thanks again for the input. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 02:52:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA991065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F608FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n8U2oYEW071410 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:50:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:52:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090930025202.GA70016@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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Also, how do I choose different Voices than the default? thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:03:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B08106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE1E8FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D18B219A7; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:02:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U32R03009022; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:02:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:02:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090930050227.5b75c453.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:03:10 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400, PJ wrote: > I feel a bit stupid, as usual, my carelessness led me to miss the > difference between ad1 and ad2... dumb, dumb, dumb. As long as you realize it BEFORE any writing operation, it's no problem. Keep in mind that the numbering of ad*, as well as of da* (which your USB disk will probably show up as) depends on the position of the drive on the ATA controller, e. g. primary master -> /dev/ad0 primary slave -> /dev/ad1 secondary master -> /dev/ad2 secondary slave -> /dev/ad3 ... This numbering sceme even does take place if you're using the master channels only, so in this example you would have the ad0 and ad2 drives, no matter if ad1 is present or not. > But... 2 questions: > 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f > and g slices or is it partitions? As far as I remember, you cannot dump slices. You can dump partitions only, or, in other words, the dump program does operate on file systems (and those are represented by one partition per file system). If you want to duplicate slice-wise, dd should be used, such as the following example: # dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/usb/slice1.dd bs=1m If you want to duplicate partition-wise, you need to dump and restore each partition, just as my verbose example showed. > I've been very confused with the slices/partitions. The term slice refers to what MICROS~1 calls "DOS primary partitions" in the widest sense. Due to DOS limitations, PCs do only support 4 slices per disk. The term partition refers to a sub-area inside a FreeBSD slice. Partitions can be used to separate functional subtrees partition-wise. Of course, I often see settings where there's only one partition on the slice, that's a common thing. > I meant above, to dump the whole slice - but I guess that it has to be > done with the partitions. Partitions: use dump + restore Slices: use dd Whole disks: use dd > and when I do dump -0Laf /dev /ad1s1a /dev/da0s1a > the errors are > "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 > do you want to restart:" Okay, everything is clear now. Just "interpret" the dump command: dump full snapshot autosize output=/dev /ad1s1a First of all, /ad1s1a does not exist. Then, /dev/da0s1a is ignored. The command doesn't make sense. The syntax of dump can be simplified as follows: dump (other options) -f outputfile inputdevice Note that outputfile can be - (the standard output) which can then be redirected somewhere else. At this position, I need to ask you: What are you trying to do? a) I want to dump ad1s1a as it is onto the disk that is da0. b) I want to dump ad1s1a as a file on the disk that is da0. Let's take a) first. I assume you have prepared the disk da0 as shown in my earlier example, or you simply have used sysinstall to create a slice on the disk and partitions inside the slice that are big enough to hold the data you want to transfer to them. Check their existance: # ll /dev/ad0* /dev/da0* The listing should give you similar slices and partitions both for the source and the target disk. First you mount the target disk and change the working directory to it: # mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt # cd /mnt Now you dump from your ad0 disk to where you currently are: # dump -0 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - Proceed with the other partitions. Mount them, change into their mountpoints that are now relative to /mnt (e. g. /mnt/var, /mnt/home) and repeat this command, substituting the source /dev/ad0s1[defg]. Finally, change back to / and umount everything in a successive way, sync, done. For case b) it's much easier. When you want to create data files, you don't need to slice / partition your USB disk, just newfs and mount it: # newfs /dev/da0 # mount /dev/da0 /mnt Now you can create all the data files for the different partitions: # dump -0 -L -a -u -f /mnt/root.dump /dev/ad0s1a # dump -0 -L -a -u -f /mnt/tmp.dump /dev/ad0s1d # dump -0 -L -a -u -f /mnt/var.dump /dev/ad0s1e # dump -0 -L -a -u -f /mnt/usr.dump /dev/ad0s1f # dump -0 -L -a -u -f /mnt/home.dump /dev/ad0s1g > The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... > Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly > not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) As far as I see, the command line just was wrong. > why into SUM? The idea behind doing dump / restore in SUM is - in addition with unmounted partitions - to ensure that no write access disturbes the reading process from the partitions. Of course, it's possible to use -L and stay in MUM. > I'm really the only user and I usually stay as root???? It's valid to perform dump / restore as root. > if SUM, shouldn't the # below be $? No. The # indicates root permissions in any shell. The $ indicates non-root access in sh or bash, the same does % in csh. > So, ad1 is the target disk and ad0 is the source? I don't know your disk setup. :-) If you're booting from ad0 and want to duplicate THIS particular system, then this is your source. But you said that you want to use a USB disk as target, that would be da0 then. > I don't follow the next sequence... > after shutdown, boot in SUM? No. The command # shutdown now gets you into SUM. You can achieve this by rebooting and and issuing boot -s at the loader prompt, but why so complicated? :-) > the following commands ($ instead of # ?) would be on the source (ad0 ?) Correct. > What is happening with the umount commands below? It unmounts any partitions that aren't required for system operations (here: for dumping and restoring). If you use the -L flag for dump, this step isn't needed. > And the mount -r / ? This mounts / in read-only mode, because you can't unmount it, you need /sbin/dump, for example, so it should be reachable. > The fsck is to clean the partitions, right? Correct. BUT: If you don't umount the partitions and want to use -L as described above, don't fsck the partitions. The fsck should be run on unmounted partitions only. It's just to make sure that the partitions you want to dump are in good condition. SUMMARY: You don't need the SUM step. You don't need to unmount the partitions, but then you should not run fsck, and you should use -L for dump. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:08:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145081065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70488FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071351E2C1; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U386vX009393; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:08:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:08:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:08:10 -0000 Forgot to mention this: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400, PJ wrote: > 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f > and g slices or is it partitions? The ad0s1 slice (containing the a, d, e, f and g partitions) can be copied 1:1 with dd. By using dump + restore, the partitions need to be copied after another. In each case, the entire system will be copied. For this purpose, even the long lasting # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=1 method can be used. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:18:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041F9106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B268FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B962B1E10B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U3IJUY010099; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:18:22 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:48:30 -0400, PJ wrote: > Duh.... I think I see where this is leading... I'm pretty sure it was > issued from / which makes it redundant, right? I should have issued it > from somewhere else, like from home, usr or whatever but not from / as > that is what I was trying to dump.... :-[ The working directory does only matter to the restore command. The dump command just cares for the partition name. In order to find out what partition corresponds with which subtree, check /etc/fstab or run the # mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) /dev/ad0s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1g on /export/home (ufs, local, soft-updates) command, as in the example above. > Yes... but my brain can't handle it all so quickly... and being as > impatient as I am, I tend to miss things on the run... it usually comes > to me sooner or later... unfortunately, it's more often later than > sooner... As long as it doesn't damage your data, it's no real problem. > I've been reading the stuff in the man pages, and getting more > confused by googling... FreeBSD has far the best documentation among operating systems I've come around. The manpages give a good overview, and the handbook illustrates many daily procedures with examples. > Actually, I've been trying to get things > straightened ot for at least 3 days already. Maybe this "pattern" can help you understanding the "strange piping dump into restore" command: # cd targetdir # dump -0 -L -a -u -f - sourcepartition | restore -r -f - It's not that complicated, but you have to be SURE about certain things. > Well, that's why I'm really checking my new disk... but it could be the > motherboard... I've always suspected it had something of a glitch in it > ever since I got it... I don't think just a slower cpu should give it so > many problems... a twin computer has the same hardware except for the > cpu and it gives far less problems - only MS related. You should consider checking some basic stuff, such as running a memtest CD or building world + kernel (just for testing purposes, load generating, and CPU utilization; GENERIC kernel will be fine). > Something about a boot sector - this is not the first time I have seen > this identical error but on much older hdd's, though still satas. > This does make me think that these problems are of hardware origin - > motherboard or sata connectors - I find they are rather Disneyesque > (Mickey Mouse) or just plain flimsy. In this case, you should install the smartctl program by running # pkg_add -r smartmontools or installing them via ports by running # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools # make install clean Then run the # smartctl -a da0 command to check the disk. Refer to # man smartctl for other options that can help to identify possible hardware errors. > Time to hit the sack... another day of computer frustration coming up... Doesn't have to be. > I'm under pressure to lear Flash and have to set up a reliable server to > test a site I am designing and setting up. Have to do it myself... can't > afford about anything today. :-( You're learning things this way, and that's what makes "our" service so expensive - because "we" know so much. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:20:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7C01065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78AC8FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U3KtZr045424; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U3KtIE045421; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:20:59 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, PJ wrote: >>> $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a >>> $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target >>> $ cd /target >>> $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - >> >> dump is reading /dev/ad1s1a and using stdout for output. >> restore is writing to the current directory (/target) and is reading >> from stdin. > But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd No. Exact details are extremely important here. ad2 is the target, dump is reading ad1. > And what exactly does stdout mean? What is dump doing? outputting > what to where exactly? I don't see it or should I say, understand this > at all.and then the restore is from what to where? The man page system is there to help you with this. man dump and man restore show examples. man stdout will help explain that. Trying to do advanced operations without understanding these basics is going to be difficult, frustrating, and ultimately dangerous to your data. >> A long pause while the system makes a snapshot is normal. > And what's this about a snapshot? AFAIK, I'm not making a snapshot; But you are. That's what the -L option to dump means, as described in the man page. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:27:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71D81065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1F88FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U3RbkA045450; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:27:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U3Rbti045447; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:27:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:27:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:27:37 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:27:41 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > Forgot to mention this: > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400, PJ wrote: >> 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f >> and g slices or is it partitions? > > The ad0s1 slice (containing the a, d, e, f and g partitions) can > be copied 1:1 with dd. By using dump + restore, the partitions > need to be copied after another. In each case, the entire system > will be copied. For this purpose, even the long lasting > > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m This copies everything on the disk, including sectors not used by a filesystem. So it usually takes a while. > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=1 Not necessary, the first block was already copied, well, first. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:37:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882111065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AC38FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U3boC2045480; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U3boYw045477; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:37:54 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:48:30 -0400, PJ wrote: >> Duh.... I think I see where this is leading... I'm pretty sure it was >> issued from / which makes it redundant, right? I should have issued it >> from somewhere else, like from home, usr or whatever but not from / as >> that is what I was trying to dump.... :-[ > > The working directory does only matter to the restore command. > The dump command just cares for the partition name. In order > to find out what partition corresponds with which subtree, > check /etc/fstab or run the > > # mount > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) > /dev/ad0s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1g on /export/home (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > command, as in the example above. Why make it harder than it needs to be? Call it / or /var or /usr instead of /dev/ad0s1whatever. dump will handle it. It's built for that. If it's a live filesystem, add -L. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html#AEN25814 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966401065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522648FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE30B3D9A9; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U3jcsn011992; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:45:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:45:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090930054538.1d4dc718.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:45:41 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Why make it harder than it needs to be? Call it / or /var or /usr > instead of /dev/ad0s1whatever. dump will handle it. This works without problems as long as it is running from the system to be copied. In case you use a live system, it doesn't know anything about the associations between devices and the mountpoints; this information is, as far as I know, obtained via /etc/fstab. This is important to know especially if the source and target disk have different layouts and concepts, e. g. /dev/ad0s1d = /var -> /dev/da0s1e = /var (different partition names for same subtree). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:49:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449071065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7C88FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U3n1G2045543; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U3n1FC045540; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:49:06 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:48:30 -0400, PJ wrote: >>> Duh.... I think I see where this is leading... I'm pretty sure it was >>> issued from / which makes it redundant, right? I should have issued it >>> from somewhere else, like from home, usr or whatever but not from / as >>> that is what I was trying to dump.... :-[ >> >> The working directory does only matter to the restore command. >> The dump command just cares for the partition name. In order >> to find out what partition corresponds with which subtree, >> check /etc/fstab or run the >> >> # mount >> /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) >> /dev/ad0s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> /dev/ad0s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> /dev/ad0s1g on /export/home (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> >> command, as in the example above. > > Why make it harder than it needs to be? Call it / or /var or /usr instead of > /dev/ad0s1whatever. dump will handle it. It's built for that. If it's a > live filesystem, add -L. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html#AEN25814 Just to add a possibly more relevant example from the FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK That example has the user connect the new disk to the old system. That works, but I've always felt it's too easy to get the disks mixed up and write to the wrong one. So usually I back up /, /var, and /usr to files on a USB disk or sshfs. Then I switch to the new target system, booting it with a FreeBSD disk and doing a minimal install. That makes sure the MBR is installed, gives me a chance to set all the filesystem sizes, and newfses them. Then I restore from the dump files created earlier, over the running system. First /usr, then /var, then /. On reboot, it's a clone. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:50:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F71065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C699C8FC1C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U3oUFQ045556; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:50:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8U3oUEO045553; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:50:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:50:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090930054538.1d4dc718.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090930054538.1d4dc718.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:50:34 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:50 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> Why make it harder than it needs to be? Call it / or /var or /usr >> instead of /dev/ad0s1whatever. dump will handle it. > > This works without problems as long as it is running from the > system to be copied. In case you use a live system, it doesn't > know anything about the associations between devices and the > mountpoints; this information is, as far as I know, obtained > via /etc/fstab. This is important to know especially if the > source and target disk have different layouts and concepts, > e. g. /dev/ad0s1d = /var -> /dev/da0s1e = /var (different > partition names for same subtree). Yes, you're right. I only realized that after sending... so I just sent an additional message. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 03:57:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3FA106568D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747728FC23 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC78A3D911; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:57:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8U3vZsR013208; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:57:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:57:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090930055735.d95f173f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:57:37 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > So usually I back up /, /var, and /usr to files > on a USB disk or sshfs. Then I switch to the new target system, booting > it with a FreeBSD disk and doing a minimal install. That makes sure the > MBR is installed, gives me a chance to set all the filesystem sizes, and > newfses them. Similar here. In most cases, the FreeBSD live system is completely sufficient: run sysinstall, slice, boot loader, partitions, drop to shell; mount USB stick, restore from files located there. For automated cloning, there are good examples around that let you boot from DVD or USB stick / USB hard disk and automatically prepare the source disk, then restoring from files. This is a common method especially via SSH, so a local media is needed only for booting and maybe for preparing. > Then I restore from the dump files created earlier, over the running > system. First /usr, then /var, then /. On reboot, it's a clone. This means you bring up the minimal (installed) system first, then do the restore? Why not do it right after the basic steps of preparation right from the install CD? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 04:25:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F341065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DFE8FC21 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2]:60353 helo=GRANTLAPTOP) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MsqkU-000Fa7-AQ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:25:06 -0400 Message-ID: <21683F053F9E47459153BB4E511717FA@GRANTLAPTOP> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Mauro Rezzonico" , References: <4AC2B87A.7050407@ch23.org> In-Reply-To: <4AC2B87A.7050407@ch23.org> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:25:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:25:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro Rezzonico" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage > Grant Peel wrote: >> The intent here is to connect about 10 Web servers, each of them hosting >> about 200 domains, to a central storage system to house users home >> directories. >> It might be worth noting that the Web machines host a full array of >> software, i.e. Mail, Web, MySQL, PHP etc. > > I don't have an answer, bu I have a question, probably a naive one and > even slightly OT.. > > If the 200 domains are hosting MySQL driven web applications (let's say > 200 Wordpress), then perhaps they are connecting to the very same MySQL > instance, so ALL their databases are in the same mysql_dbdir, and > perhaps the dbdir is /var/db/mysql... > So: how do you deal things like that with MySQL driven web applications? > How are you going to deal the mysql_dbdir issue? NFS perhaps is not the > best filesystem for MySQL tables (performance-wise)... > Are you going to 'mysqldump' the databases back in each home dir? > Periodically? And keep the databases on the local disks? > > -- > Mauro Rezzonico , Como, Italia > "Maybe this world is another planet's hell" - H.Huxley > All machines are completely autonomous. i.e they each run thier own applications and store all data to thier own disks. -Grant > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 06:09:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1C3106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kennethcf@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A9D8FC2B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aOPGdbSxJBnTO9y/xapCX9nvOZnLiXgUKFG0F5G9mEQqOZ/0t69Ieh4UEdB9SBy2; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.68] (helo=wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MssN6-0001i7-Fn; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:09:04 -0400 Received: from 66.32.195.98 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:09:03 -0400 Message-ID: <22137126.1254290944058.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:09:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth To: Warren Block Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: fa60bc5202b74016ef7f91bc926e004c7e972de0d01da9407ed35f04982991e3f5c92d35732d592d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.68 Cc: Jules Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kenneth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:09:06 -0000 Thank you! The led flashes with traffic now...however, the flashing between blue and orange is irritating, so I removed the lines, and yes, the card works. It would be nice to have a steady blue to signifiy a connection. To get my ath0 device working, I have the following 2 files with the lines shown: File 1) /etc/rc.conf (fill in the ? with your wep key in position 1 on your router...my laptop didn't want to work without the "weptxkey 1" and the "1:" in front of the key itself) ifconfig_ath0="DHCP ssid spider mode AUTO weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0x?????????? authmode open wepmode on" File 2) /boot/loader.conf if_ath_load="YES" wlan_scan_ap_load="YES" wlan_scan_sta_load="YES" wlan_wep_load_load="YES" Also, on my wireless router, I had to disable Super G mode. The man page for the atheros driver says the atheros Super G mode is not supported. I verified that it was not supported, at least 100%. My laptop would talk to the router, but my DHCP server would not answer my laptop's DHCPDISCOVER requests. It worked as soon as I disabled Super G on the router. If you use an "authmode" other than "open", I think you need to load another module in /boot/loader.conf...refer to the Freebsd Handbook 31.3.2. I have not tested that. -----Original Message----- >From: Warren Block >Sent: Sep 14, 2009 9:29 AM >To: Kenneth >Cc: Jules Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario > >On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Kenneth wrote: > >> Anyone been able to use the ath driver on an atheros 5424/2424? I have a Compaq Presario CQ60 and can not get the wireless light to turn blue? > >For a working LED, the Atheros AR5007 (5424/2424) in my Acer requires > >dev.ath.0.ledpin=3 >dev.ath.0.softled=1 > >in /etc/sysctl.conf. Works without that, just no LED. > >-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 06:40:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D4C1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A5E8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n8U6eS7H033783; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:40:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:40:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bret Busby In-Reply-To: <20090929120019.F290A1065708@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090930153219.V10039@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090929120019.F290A1065708@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:40:38 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 278, Issue 4, Message 2 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:36:00 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Bret Busby wrote: > >> Hello. > >> > >> I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq > >> NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. [..] > See > http://busby.net/bret/Screenshot--dev-sda-GParted.png Presumably from your screenshot, what Linux Gparted calls /dev/sda8 > However, with the response above, and, with all of the responses thus > far, to the query, it appears that I cannot install FreeBSD on the > computer, without a full system rebuild, involving removal of all of the > installed operating systems and software from the computer, then > repartitioning, or, slicing up, the hard drive, and then creating new > logical, extended partitions, and then reinstalling each of the > operating systems, and all of the software for each of the operating > systems, trying to ensure that I then have at least all of the software > that is currently installed on each operating system on the computer, > and, the data that is currently present on the computer. Bret, none of that much drama will be necessary :) Manolis nailed it, but I'll add a little reinforcement if it helps reassure you that what you want to do is a) entirely possible and b) not terribly difficult. > And, with being required to do all of that, I do not know what would > happen, regarding issues such as the interrupt conflict that I > encountered when trying to initially install Debian 3.1 on the computer, > the interrupt conflict being between the WiFi card and the ethernet > card, which reuired Ubuntu to resolve the conflict, then (at the time, > as I was then a strictly Debian user) uninstalling Ubuntu to reinstall > Debian 3.1, with the solution to the interrupt conflict, having used > Mandriva Linux to do the partitioning, so as to retain the initial > installation of MS Win XP, which I would probably lose, and have to > install from scratch, as part of installing BSD on the system. I can't comment on your wifi or interrupt issues, but there's no reason you need to lose any of your existing systems to install FreeBSD here. First, make SURE you have good backups, whatever else you do. Sooner or later the HD is going to fail anyway, so be prepared and be comfortable. More or less as Manolis later said, using gparted since you have it: a) delete the 20GB logical partition /dev/sda8 for the space you need. b) move the free space in the extended partition to the end, after the present sda9 and sda10. these may then become sda8 and sda9, and you may later need to edit references to these to account for renumbering. c) shrink the extended partition sda2 to the end of (now) sda9, which will provide 20GB of unallocated free space on the disk. d) create a new slice (primary partition in DOS terms) using all of the 20GB free space. gparted will call it /dev/sda3, and it'll be the third partition in the MBR. FreeBSD will see this as slice /dev/ad0s3, and there you can install FreeBSD, probably in several FreeBSD partitions. > So, getting the system set up, initially, to get Debian 3.1 running (it > has been superseded on the system, first by Debian 4, and, now, by > Debian 5), took a fair bit of time and effort, and problem solving, > using various operating systems, to get the one extra operating system > installed. Sure, and you learned quite a lot in the process :) > Due to the time and effort involved, and the apparent complexity, it all > seems too difficult, to install BSD. Nope. Just a bit more learning, shifting a bit further from 'DOS-think' > If FreeBSD would be able to be installed in a logical partition, within > an extended partition, as can be done with Linux, it would probably be > able to be done by me - in the meantime, it is simply too difficult. It's only too difficult until you know how to do it. Manolis and I have both shown you a fairly straightforward way of doing it, and others have provided good background info on how FreeBSD uses diskspace. Go for it! As a bonus, you should be able to access all of the other filesystems on your disk from FreeBSD, at least read-only. FAT32 (mount_msdosfs), NTFS (I don't, but many people here have done), ext3 - not sure about write capability, but certainly ext2. Way back on FreeBSD 3.3 I salvaged many OS/2 HPFS filesystems from various extended partitions, readonly, and last time I looked (FreeBSD 7.0) the HPFS code was still in the tree. You'll find that FreeBSD knows the (covering) extended partition as /dev/ad0s5 and the logical partitions within as /dev/ad0s6, s7 etc. FAT32 is reliable read-write, and most useful for shipping files between different OS, especially if you enclose them in a tar(1) or zip(1) file if you need to maintain file ownerships and permissions. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 07:38:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6541D106568D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C89698FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2009 07:38:10 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp065) with SMTP; 30 Sep 2009 09:38:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Cr4VyqdFCD8ixUPxT5iwvfW1ckGSt3XW/J5XurD jS2ZwWW9y/DkV/ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:36:01 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: "chrisa @ uvic. ca" Message-ID: <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:38:13 -0000 I had similar troubles with hal. The easiest solutions is to get rid of hal. Deinstall it. The xorg-package you can compile without hal (use make configure and uncheck hal) and it will work. Cheers herb langhans On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:59:23PM -0700, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: > I have several related problems with hald on 7.2 i386. First, on one > machine (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2), hald will not start at startup, nor by > executing the startup script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start. It doesn't > exit with any error code: it simply produces no output at all, and ps -ax > | grep hal shows that it didn't start. Incidentally, the dbus and cupsd > scripts in the same directory also do nothing. > > On the other machine, however (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE), hald doesn't *build*. > It errors out with: > > /usr/local/lib/libpolkit.so: undefined reference to `strndup@FBSD_1.1' > gmake[4]: *** [hald] Error 1 > gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' > gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' > gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11/hald' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.11' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. > > This machine was a new install from the 7.2 i386 CD, so to save time I > used packages that had already been built on the first machine. All of > these packages were built within a day of each other, from a previously > updated ports tree with all previously installed packages removed. > > Xorg and hald and dbus and everything related installed just fine, and > Xorg works, except that the mouse doesn't work, which I suspect is caused > by hald not working. On this machine, the hald that was compiled on the > first machine won't start, this time giving an error: > > root@nimue /usr/local/etc/rc.d > # ./hald start > Starting hald. > root@nimue > /usr/local/etc/rc.d > # /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libc.so.7: version FBSD_1.1 required by > /usr/local/lib/libpolkit.so.2 not found > > Any thoughts? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 08:40:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF461065696 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168628FC32 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F72EB575D; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC96745148; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:50 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9VA8DfmC1f+o; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl12-49.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.139.49]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A02B4512A; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8U8emfG006526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8U8el79006525; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: PJ References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:46 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400") Message-ID: <871vlo965t.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:40:52 -0000 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400, PJ wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> Assuming nobody uses tape drives anymore, you need to specify >> another file, which is the standard output in this case, which >> may not be obvious, but it is if we reorder the command line: >> >> # dump -0 -L - a -u -f - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -r -f - > 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f > and g slices or is it partitions? No, dump will backup a single partition (or filesystem) specified by the options you pass, i.e.: * Dump only the ad0s1a partition to standard output: dump -0 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1a * Dump only the ad0s1d partition to standard output: dump -0 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1d You will have to run multiple `dump' instances to backup more than one partition. For example, a short script that I run daily to save dumps at level 2 for all my laptop's UFS filesystems includes code that is equivalent to the following set of commands: TODAY=$( date -u '+%Y-%m-%d' ) dump -2 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1a > kobe.2.${TODAY}.ad0s1a dump -2 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1d > kobe.2.${TODAY}.ad0s1d dump -2 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s1e > kobe.2.${TODAY}.ad0s1e dump -2 -L -a -u -f - /dev/ad0s3d > kobe.2.${TODAY}.ad0s3d Each partition is dumped to a separate output file, so I can restore them separately. >>> I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap >>> to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with >>> 7.2 minimal installation. >> >> I think that's not possible because dump operates on file system >> level, which means on partitions, not on slices. > > I've been very confused with the slices/partitions. I meant above, to > dump the whole slice - but I guess that it has to be done with the > partitions. You cannot dump a full slice (what other operating systems call a "BIOS partition") in a single dump run. Use multiple dump commands like the ones shown above. >>> Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use >>> -L when dumping live filesystems) > > and when I do dump -0Laf /dev /ad1s1a /dev/da0s1a > the errors are > "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 > do you want to restart:" This is not a correct invocation of dump. You can't pass multiple partitions in one instance of dump, like /dev, /ad1s1a and /dev/da0s1a. If the order of dump options confuses you, reorder them the same way Polytropon did, so that the `-f OUTPUT' option stands out a bit more: dump -0 -a -L -f - /ad1s1a A break-down of these options is now easier to understand: * This will save a level 0 dump (the -0 option) of partition /ad1s1a. * The dump will not be split into multiple tape `archives' (the -a option). * Before trying to save the current state of the input partition, dump will create a `snapshot' so that a consistent state of all files in the partition will be saved in the dumped archive (the -L option). * The backup archive will be sent to standard output (the '-' argument of the -f option). The special '-' value for the output file of the -f option may be a bit confusing, but it is useful if you are going to immediately pipe dump's output to the restore(8) program. Otherwise, if you are just going to save the dump archive to another disk, you could have used: dump -0 -a -L -f dumpfile /ad1s1a The dump utility would then save a dump archive to `dumpfile' instead of writing everything to its standard output. >> To illustrate a dump and restore process that involves several >> partitions, just let me add this example: >> >> Stage 1: Initialize slice and partitions >> # fdisk -I -B ad1 >> # bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 >> # bsdlabel -e ad1s1 >> a: 512M * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 >> b: 1024M * swap >> c: * * unused <--- don't change >> e: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 >> f: 2G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 >> g: 10G * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 >> h: * * 4.2BSD 0 0 0 >> ^KX (means: save & exit) >> # newfs /dev/ad1s1a >> # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1e >> # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1f >> # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1g >> # newfs -U /dev/ad1s1h >> >> Stage 2: Go into SUM and prepare the source partitions > > why into SUM? I'm really the only user and I usually stay as root???? > if SUM, shouldn't the # below be $? Because when you are running in multi-user mode there may be services and other background processes changing the files of the source partitions while you are dumping them. By going into single-user mode, you ensure that there is only one active process in your system: the root shell you are using to back & restore the files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 09:37:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23427106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22F88FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so1387366eyf.9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.143 with SMTP id r15mr1330593wed.153.1254303452433; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm172388eyg.0.2009.09.30.02.37.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:37:30 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:37:34 -0000 ......... > > a simple > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=1M count=1 > > would fix that if nothing else > > if there's was no existing label, there is nothing to do except gmirror man > instructions. Gmirror is block level mirroring which why no other steps are > needed. > well now I really need advice, the data centre guy successfully inserted another disk in the right place and it appears to be the same model. However, smartctl -a /dev/ad4 seems to show a number of errors and many of the indicators are prefail or old_age. In addition the disk doesn't have exactly the same length so when I tried to insert gmirror complains that it is too small. What are my options? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 09:50:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759A4106568F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5068FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1683620fxm.36 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XDFjJCVc7fhwnOhAqYZUvOZBTTrelY+02UEGuBfwlnY=; b=R2EGdzV8KauGMoVFOhNDL/ipK+Q2GTWR73OZlCyuqFSGaXfyPzNnYk+A8ii9vD7RnG 2UyfipzIw+w+LBGm71AlnOYA6HOVFlf6XWCAs1T8CdgaquwCm7saJCuXP5CkG+N8tzWy RsHu2vB0wIpzRNhn8Q8NOyrQke9kV0uUxVDgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GWmCkK4OMDiyo0ATG6QHmhWKdoTVY55yhww5VTCDKzRaPrhfdUvwTK3tKi3BEXIfB2 29W5fRSX945YZ39/IM6neCLD25UEu54VGgKCnPa+2+mPon+rdNQl/6n9URc9fxGRupZy Yz2/sEdJ+jp2I02NtGeS0W0NBvKdOwNvMKyp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.80.4 with SMTP id h4mr2118904mul.112.1254304201141; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:50:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: anonymous ftp user only from specific subnet / ips X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:50:02 -0000 hi list, I've ftp server, where I want to deny anonymous logins from the outer net, but allow logins of anonymous users from inner net. 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I am using vsftpd, I wanted to configure tcp wrappers, but it does not solve my problem. thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 10:07:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB361065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F098FC1D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n8UA6wtd004344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:06:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:06:58 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: ion-general@lists.berlios.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:06:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:07:02 -0000 Hi all I'm trying to compile http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html on my FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 and didn't success.... I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone have the patch file for the system.mk ? Long time ago ion ports was kick off from the ports system because the will of the developper (please don't troll). I just saw the license just change maybe now it's possible to put again ion in the ports system ? I would like to help for the ports but as you can see I unable to build for myself. Regards -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mer 30 sep 2009 12:01:57 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 11:18:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25071065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2B18FC28 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UBIiMA047360; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UBIib4047357; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090930055735.d95f173f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> <20090930051819.be26dc3b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090930055735.d95f173f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:18:47 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:49:01 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> So usually I back up /, /var, and /usr to files >> on a USB disk or sshfs. Then I switch to the new target system, booting >> it with a FreeBSD disk and doing a minimal install. That makes sure the >> MBR is installed, gives me a chance to set all the filesystem sizes, and >> newfses them. > > Similar here. In most cases, the FreeBSD live system is completely > sufficient: run sysinstall, slice, boot loader, partitions, drop > to shell; mount USB stick, restore from files located there. > >> Then I restore from the dump files created earlier, over the running >> system. First /usr, then /var, then /. On reboot, it's a clone. > > This means you bring up the minimal (installed) system first, then > do the restore? Why not do it right after the basic steps of > preparation right from the install CD? Probably mostly inertia, but I also like that it makes certain everything has been done to make a complete bootable system. Seems like when I do it manually, CRS syndrome kicks in and I forget a step which ends up taking more time. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 12:21:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC3D1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2776A8FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mswzc-0004cD-N2; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:05:08 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2AEB84D; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:05:08 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 471CBB849; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:05:08 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:05:08 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:21:23 -0000 * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > I'm trying to compile > > http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html > > on my FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 and didn't success.... > > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > have the patch file for the system.mk ? > > Long time ago ion ports was kick off from the ports system because the will > of the developper (please don't troll). I just saw the license just change > maybe now it's possible to put again ion in the ports system ? > > I would like to help for the ports but as you can see I unable to build for > myself. I've seen the license change too. I'm working on the port currently. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 12:40:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CD71065676 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3D58FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4585629bwz.43 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T2Z197JYojR9oZjqwRjkalacnOJZir/nrFsjt9bj5Xg=; b=gJWrMsuYxnGX9B58OllRl+WKMQwAH2h055MOeFxtDISuuriWTTxIVWMDavijj5MfAb vviLNZx6H9SNiiIE/fY6RS+6DOgWw4UDTJ1njRPfT68E8Wf8H1Gu0mlWUEww4fkKTPDO ieiXc6PvrQjG8xokSq9ADTRzCubXX4hG+IGLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hAfYZ41J35sp8DjeOS8HUltF9E57tzMeWPnflD4JeEeY5kHjxOYJHRZn60jpdfgryu Mk5F2r4S1hlVFdt7pmVs4rGh0JoUPiGLRrbMwuT/En27BaH6gB3NZ4916Qj//vPUJ6nz DPIMYaXNl74pZiaEJ9ga79WPSbNwAjfoyLXFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.10 with SMTP id b10mr519105hbc.198.1254314441019; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:40:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:40:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:42 -0000 2009/9/30 Robin Becker > ......... > >> >> a simple >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=1M count=1 >> >> would fix that if nothing else >> >> if there's was no existing label, there is nothing to do except gmirror >> man >> instructions. Gmirror is block level mirroring which why no other steps >> are >> needed. >> >> well now I really need advice, the data centre guy successfully inserted > another disk in the right place and it appears to be the same model. > However, smartctl -a /dev/ad4 seems to show a number of errors and many of > the indicators are prefail or old_age. > > In addition the disk doesn't have exactly the same length so when I tried > to insert gmirror complains that it is too small. > > What are my options? > -- > Robin Becker > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 1st thing sure up what you have. create another mirror, partition, newfs it up and rsync the the contents of the active drive over to it. Keep the rsync every 10 minutes or so depeneding on how much data you have and what impact it has on system resources You then have two options boot off the new drive, destroy the gmirror on the old drive and add it to the new mirror on the old drive or buy another new drive, Make sure its bigger this time. Add it to the box and add it the the old gmirror you can then leave the 1st new drive in there potentially and have it as a hot back From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 12:55:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533CE106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f201.google.com (mail-yx0-f201.google.com [209.85.210.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E458FC1C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe39 with SMTP id 39so6829525yxe.8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IZT92vuPnEx9m+ZxDqyAqWrjDPLbsTTBTz110DTZLTM=; b=A9oGRfR96VvRzr6H3c1+x+Qc5Yfx0GEOr9OPBvvL7zGtJMy8oJnL5fZbBwBxNaqyy1 7aXDCpRa1pasqQqm2PNLpc1bE2E5b6aCZOhDujdHvl6tpiCz5KvxTXcrEO/Wq4R9zW6s /qcPro6HbY9vi28cP4g8bk8+1hvXEtVJYc6XM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LBJnIgoj/muZYmxr6Ghci71GLOp7Y4EAtI6375y93+0bn5zvL72mQP4OfBvNbH2e6J HdjPbrd+iTZioY8wZ83KFucElWv2Ehad77QgytypGb9PW8o9meGqxV6wpwJRMlANAPgD lDoDTJka4lmi8X9QkI48eeNZTNXYOd3uzFlmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.89.3 with SMTP id m3mr11072976ybb.186.1254315345387; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:55:45 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909300555x3721c3ccq45c604bd28c1f8c@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Robin Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:55:46 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > ......... > >> >> a simple >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=1M count=1 >> >> would fix that if nothing else >> >> if there's was no existing label, there is nothing to do except gmirror >> man >> instructions. Gmirror is block level mirroring which why no other steps >> are >> needed. >> >> well now I really need advice, the data centre guy successfully inserted > another disk in the right place and it appears to be the same model. > However, smartctl -a /dev/ad4 seems to show a number of errors and many of > the indicators are prefail or old_age. > > In addition the disk doesn't have exactly the same length so when I tried > to insert gmirror complains that it is too small. > > What are my options? > -- > Robin Becker > This has been answered already but you should be aware that when using gmirror, your back disk should either be the same model or bigger as hard drive capacities differ between manufacturers. As in Seagate 250GB ~= WD 250GB. So this is not an uncommon problem. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 13:07:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFE910656A3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806918FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gx0-f214.google.com with SMTP id 6so4182730gxk.13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F08neHznUB2davVfna/ppzvoDmBJKK9Xh3ezHJdlgM0=; b=BPItgDZ0ng7t62lEXNQS3U6kFHOSzvT/FGpw5ps0pf1vYwPyHOpAB8kKWQW73ftKHd 21I+81+cnMbD1qoewU6sNv84U00xAqstQuLV82rdxFazM+++QYcux/HWcKjhOBd888kB 4Cn2giwhwdDTwqzFR10LYYQP6nz5vthQsOyLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LykYi0jh9X5p9j8zd+3ehT0aUqgUU1Ee7R9/epT1ntZBuw1qUDgDgpbuRddb5LmvKX Cv5ht7dxuOepxh4zg7n2Hez1WxqJYnkgeFklmEqkIxJslEUAZn3dFe5o/fR7nxoZPq5U k56jH2WQdKCZpu+FItw4T7uRQxumFkTMO4yxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.104.2 with SMTP id b2mr11166250ybc.19.1254316061001; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909300607u7bdbe45aw91972f253299e853@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Grant Peel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:07:41 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > For the past few months I have been researching methods to create a storage > enclosure, perferably with out spending many 10s of k's of $'s. > > The intent here is to connect about 10 Web servers, each of them hosting > about 200 domains, to a central storage system to house users home > directories. > > I am still looking for feedback regarding what level of hardware ( how much > RAM , cpu bus speed etc) people might be using for a similar setup. > > The end idea is to lead FreeBSD on the storage system, create one huge > /home directory, export it via NFS and share that on all the Web machines. > > It might be worth noting that the Web machines host a full array of > software, i.e. Mail, Web, MySQL, PHP etc. > > Does anyone use a similar setup? What kind of I/O bottlenecks are created? > Your questions cannot be answer specifically because they do not contain enough info. Here is what I chose to do in a similar but smaller enviro. 1. This a good place for virtualization. FreeBSD jails are the most efficient form that I'm aware of including XEN. Jails have limitations XEN doesn't however. 2. High load DB's shouldn't be virtualized. 3. EZjails port helps alot! 4. Machine specs would depend on system load, you've given no indication other than apps. 5. You should preplan backup and failover setup. Heartbeat, CARP, rdiff, and other utilities should help here. > > Any feedback would be welcome. > > -Grant > > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 13:23:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6295E106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C88FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:23:55 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABr4wkrDDR/w/2dsb2JhbADZF4QnBA Received: from event240.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.240]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2009 15:23:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:23:35 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090930132335.GA15926@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: kdebase4 installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:23:56 -0000 I'm having problem with kdebase4 installation. Below is error code, what do I need to do to get this fixed? Last portsnap + did 'make disclean', but still get this error. [ 42%] Generating konsoleadaptor.moc Scanning dependencies of target konsoleprivate [ 42%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/konsoleprivate_automoc.o [ 42%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/BlockArray.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/BookmarkHandler.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/ColorScheme.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/Emulation.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/Filter.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/History.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/HistorySizeDialog.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/IncrementalSearchBar.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/KeyboardTranslator.o [ 45%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/ProcessInfo.o /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool FreeBSDProcessInfo::readCurrentDir(int)': /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:751: error: 'kinfo_getfile' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: 'KF_FD_TYPE_CWD' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.1/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4. Thanks in advance Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 13:55:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51967106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from westr@connection.ca) Received: from nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca [205.207.122.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F52C8FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from westr-main.tor.connection.ca (external.tor.connection.ca [216.234.38.18]) by nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C25174E58C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:55:12 -0400 From: Ross Organization: Network Connection X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <49341974.20090930095512@connection.ca> To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <773896033.20090928124448@connection.ca> References: <773896033.20090928124448@connection.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: geom not clearing metadata labels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ross List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:55:12 -0000 R> I've got a geom based file system that is running under 2 geom R> modules: multipath and journal. Solved the problem, so here's some notes for the archive: - the answers were hiding throughout in the freebsd-geom mailing list archives, I just forgot to look there initially. - this was a single data disk that was improperly partitioned/sliced in the beginning, therefore the metadata information was being picked up twice and auto creating the journal device under each device. - if the journal is being picked up multiple times (ie slice + partition), then remove one of the formatting options (via dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxxxx bs=512 count=32) so only 1 journal is picked up. Then do "gjournal clear /dev/xxxxx" to properly remove the metadata. - hardcode the gjournal labels for situations like this, as it'll stop it being autoloaded under multiple devices. - gjournal hardcoded provider labels are up to 15 characters long, so long device names can be a pain (like "multipath/xxxx0s1a" is too long). Probably a few other notes that I've forgotten, but that'll get you on the right path. R. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:07:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A20510656A6 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46178FC30 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so531503ewy.36 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.128.15 with SMTP id f15mr6229074ebn.57.1254319619762; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm66394eyz.42.2009.09.30.07.06.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC36604.1050606@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:07:00 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909300555x3721c3ccq45c604bd28c1f8c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909300555x3721c3ccq45c604bd28c1f8c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:07:01 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: ......... >> > > This has been answered already but you should be aware that when using > gmirror, your back disk should either be the same model or bigger as hard > drive capacities differ between manufacturers. As in Seagate 250GB ~= WD > 250GB. So this is not an uncommon problem. > > yes this is a fairly old WD original was Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-22MHB0 Firmware Version: 02.01C03 User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes they replaced with Device Model: WDC WD1600JS-75NCB2 Firmware Version: 10.02E03 User Capacity: 160,000,000,000 bytes which looks quite strange as it looks like something got lopped off somehow. I didn't think bad blocking/sectoring was done any more. Anyhow they've removed this disk and are considering options (at least I hope they are). -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:20:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EAC106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f194.google.com (mail-pz0-f194.google.com [209.85.222.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F351D8FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so4430784pzk.3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Txr6JA0phDZXhnDw1/RJLh1PQwEFzRiKuORCHaFqK04=; b=ekPVzZd70pQmp5MJT+ShGYDWSFQoHRIVucC5+w0lP9h5bU7qmSeHR/E/G5CtzwJGkf gEIaxjHJF4jw0joG/iIYtBcIPQjvBQH+QyD3S4djV8qMNKfAKZj9lvtinIrYr6woNQtS 66LygWHWTtKTZx4PJDR+iHEcEy6zZhDMwkyps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OnNxFTVn2o48pFWGFlbvChdcM5236kVomTX8N56/21qfAHy592LpbdvPHWcm6qY3/j PcYmOz7yLNvBM2+QK8UHvki6oXa9FOxndA+5OEK47/5b1OhCU62wxdbIw5lm0zemyTVn Ax6eSjCLQ8UMFSWTochQSslhfZrlpTDdTrKqc= Received: by 10.140.132.7 with SMTP id f7mr591702rvd.296.1254320420495; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?131.230.41.170? (ws041170.vas.siu.edu [131.230.41.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1164639yxe.8.2009.09.30.07.20.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC36922.6010608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:20:18 -0500 From: LoH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> <4AC02164.7040201@thebeastie.org> In-Reply-To: <4AC02164.7040201@thebeastie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:20:21 -0000 > The reality is that Oracle is meant to be a very expensive solution > for companies that don't know what to do. This makes Red Hat etc an > ideal contender for this situation as it promises full enterprise > support. > Whether it is the truth or if its even a good solution is completely > irreverent to these 2 tech companies because at the end of the day > they are just trying to make money and please the stock holders. > > Huh? Last I remember reading, Oracle hasn't put a native version together for FreeBSD because running it through the linuxlator works well enough to justify not spending engineering resources on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:38:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969441065692 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 555E48FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38375 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2009 14:38:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254321486; bh=1PcgRBA+pUrOMwCxPh+5+bIqmwwTiIJIymcsSUORRFw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=f6HDKWBUiZnbWJ+X8U5y+87Sx/qmjlaNZj0+p2fa76Pofi2+gSQZvdFxNEKGzicVH4zkGiz+x6wRTjpRdBiCWjXlPW8g6eXpqbR26SXU+4C4ttj/WMPjzb8Pygnb55cmcPhNO5C0K07djRrh/MWmsYfx4V08D6k7QxO6s/DnPLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kD90npW3zDhUJ1Xc0C82w7sSN7VdmztF1hjwxgzgai92FJSv3B0cxvfJKMf1wrW7xxZ2ox0uKKUZX9nVcJzH6KdsXL8f/eiqMOgqOFWz92RkNSt2vrW6yNDkPg/gA2fokp6QQm3q2XYumDVdFTfsYqGzzSPb5fpFY6LMf/aBmnw=; Message-ID: <754696.37431.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4XXl6e0VM1nR4m7iljmCyyi.jV41vzWD32o.n7EXpvCR1k1.9CKRhmeGR2R.kz2S3Jplm1IHDU7gMdCuf15d24MeZmRKzhvhKpRc3AGqP00O8bTUEpTUTLCamYBadtdkJOJfbgt2cuWm4eSV0Z81S57eMjW0C6TneGZQNjy_hhyfvFc4eJ6tQZlnr0kCeAhmmxkAv.t0X4_TxnxhTUYN9R.NEKE1Iul1UNrT1zxB6UokLxp_PyIiXfjbfLMK1kTEj4WjWihOoPp6Hp08aYpqLtdA9aQeYODWc_ZBlxfv1ITQIb3mnmj8xZ.lbTO9HPd1FHlcb4g57ZB5GI9SRUc0KF7JB1aHdlOntVtAoDcGVVfipUVXp2ddIXe_d9sbh98NHdKykrDrGxGWPJRWdCw.0JDEBrqCp820fNRgRTXFMfuvQs4lioA14BZHkwuZ_84AhwTPniTmc18uoOW4XZkmhd8- Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:38:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:38:07 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 without success. Any hint?=0A= =0AThis is my data:=0A=0Auname -a: =0AFreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdo= main 7.2-STABLE-200906 FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun 7 10:23:49 UT= C 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd6= 4=0A=0Afreebsd-update:=0A=0A[root@toshiba-leo]# freebsd-update -v debug -r = 8.0-RC1 upgrade=0ALooking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.= =0AFetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update5.Fr= eeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found=0Afailed.=0AFetching p= ublic key from update2.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update2.FreeBSD.org/7.2= -STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found=0Afailed.=0AFetching public key fro= m update4.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update4.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-20090= 6/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found=0Afailed.=0ANo mirrors remaining, giving up.=0A= =0A=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:45:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B21065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B391D8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so4274491gxk.13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vRW71Nkn3+gbT5djnfPTR0doZSkdRVOBnUs9Y8E/2SQ=; b=rCf7XC0YEwDWoY+iJ9+2Ez5w3kutKOWTlAN3OcYR3Y3W1bfnV8iEXK5mWuYqcpH1Bx 3jCH6wnIVAi1UPpzb2GqWCuOccsuL16r4EnYXAfshiocbMc6pD8xit8FYPcbQb3u+1E0 X7Lb3c+e38ZQ6YD7GbCHCvb4nGrW04HD2mDqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=eABxHIMFRN6hHK9JqUJe86p/fISjyGAa2LoPL2jWDp3chGrSKVR5wN9N9Ht2Tl9nwJ jq1UpcSx+dum8h7yqX4c/UJXaV+gIA/86DvUkELUrH9vFH57E6lLwRGeqTQmHNIbothz cXZ5/l2pS9BaPW+Ox1QsoWiuwellkdRUP1FwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.65.21 with SMTP id n21mr91285yba.89.1254321933985; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:45:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <754696.37431.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <754696.37431.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:45:33 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909300745g6cc030baxb8309b7745e6ba8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:35 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 w= rote: > Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 without success. Any hint? > > This is my data: > > uname -a: > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain 7.2-STABLE-200906 FreeBSD > 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun 7 10:23:49 UTC 2009 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > freebsd-update: > > [root@toshiba-leo]# freebsd-update -v debug -r 8.0-RC1 upgrade > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update5.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update2.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update4.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > > > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com > > > man freebsd-update DESCRIPTION The freebsd-update tool is used to fetch, install, and rollback binary updates to the FreeBSD base system. Note that updates are only available if they are being built for the FreeBSD release and architecture being used; in particular, the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE or FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT. You are not running supported version. --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACC610656B7; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B729E8FC12; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt0R0-00079n-H1; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:45:38 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83570B84D; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:45:35 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B219FB849; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:45:35 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:45:35 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:45:42 -0000 * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > have the patch file for the system.mk ? Please try this: http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar It builds file in tinderbox, but I haven't tested how it works yet. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B201065693 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9963A8FC25 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2]:2548 helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt0UH-000OWb-Se; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:49:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: "Adam Vande More" References: <6201873e0909300607u7bdbe45aw91972f253299e853@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:48:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:49:03 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Vande More" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Grant Peel wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> For the past few months I have been researching methods to create a >> storage >> enclosure, perferably with out spending many 10s of k's of $'s. >> >> The intent here is to connect about 10 Web servers, each of them hosting >> about 200 domains, to a central storage system to house users home >> directories. >> >> I am still looking for feedback regarding what level of hardware ( how >> much >> RAM , cpu bus speed etc) people might be using for a similar setup. >> >> The end idea is to lead FreeBSD on the storage system, create one huge >> /home directory, export it via NFS and share that on all the Web >> machines. >> >> It might be worth noting that the Web machines host a full array of >> software, i.e. Mail, Web, MySQL, PHP etc. >> >> Does anyone use a similar setup? What kind of I/O bottlenecks are >> created? >> > > Your questions cannot be answer specifically because they do not contain > enough info. Here is what I chose to do in a similar but smaller enviro. > > 1. This a good place for virtualization. FreeBSD jails are the most > efficient form that I'm aware of including XEN. Jails have limitations > XEN > doesn't however. > 2. High load DB's shouldn't be virtualized. > 3. EZjails port helps alot! > 4. Machine specs would depend on system load, you've given no indication > other than apps. > 5. You should preplan backup and failover setup. Heartbeat, CARP, rdiff, > and other utilities should help here. > > > >> >> Any feedback would be welcome. >> >> -Grant >> >> > > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hi Adam, Thanks for the reply. Whatever software flavour I settle on (I am trending towards FreeNAS at this point), I will be be running a RAID 5 array with a specific share dedicated to backups. Indeed, I already have a robust backup schemem in place. So no worries about loosing data per #5 on your list. Per #4 on your list, I am not sure if you are asking about the NAS machine, or the clients. The CLients are all Dell machines (R200's, PE860's and PE#750's). They are all Pent 4 and Xenon machines, currently using 100MB ethernet. (LAN AND WAN). All of them are connected to my central switch via a LAN vlan, and a wan vlan. The ethernet switch is also a dell 48 port Managed 100MB switch, with two GB ports. The current Internet traffic is about 2 Megabits sustained. The hard drive lights on each server are blinking about once per second, a little more solid when FTP activity is high. As far as the NAS machine specs go, I have not decided on anything yet, and am looking for input on this, any takers? I have also just came up with another question: All of the 200 domains on each server have thier own Real Unix user (obviously). Once the NAS is setup, (using NFS), how do the permissions on the NAS machine play out? i.e. when user 'hisname' logs into a server via ftp, and uploads a file to his home directory (which is on the NAS), will the file permissions be the same, and will 'hisname' own the file exactly the same as if he were writing to the local (server) disk? In the NAS exports do I have to map every user to the NFS or can I just maproot? TIA, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:58:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93101065696 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 752638FC1C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38030 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2009 14:58:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254322689; bh=fMc0mzI8a7mt3v1VrBjxyaX1Yji4XDabGbIysREwpl0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qaI/s/7bwTWDD7sTwEBtMoUuneY9vCNvnbLGUGhjJhI8Umw4K42mfAk8e2alM/4VEbK7wtEl8UBxp7otXu1Vn1mBxuvuNKNXTj58lqWFLCgg8BgzXwhKTBOqa1l+F7WHaw2qldq6oft4i/9sqwurLPK6ex1tas0dBWseORpL51I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S1fG+32naVKP0ujrd37hkJ8ilhcnIe390uGakqOyXwM546xQqR39mo6Wo71fVoiEr0YKBbJQ+SEdX5NAsQxS+qvwmR5KkwSD/A3PnNrZ0HWT6jbkGku4rNZnvp9juJI9HYt5d5PoJo/JMJ3qcv9HPqVlPl78lbXjH61VXIg0Xlc=; Message-ID: <34689.36983.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2UcBcTEVM1lO_IyptWdjJ1PF1wiKKbpNxlPkmu0jK2ia8wsvYLndFLFwkhXb4vbUXf6u.ZEvavd1TNdM9wwxsSQL28g9eKc.R8RfkRfsTVbvF71g7jc3.hE72VTLfLWjhOwsJXvOdYlxJVYh.2EcfqpnXRAD7pfSIjYm0RAXeghd8tvWLv9gNcbkJBDYs2g1ML1xPdV8RVqhdaQWqN0AmtVIr3r_WBT4jLVLwR1UUAzNcoSn9OAu3D1bBkaeBj2hGqZGWgjYADiFFJgTyHAaYWicLz9mAEFIZMAMU6WatpJ5HoLqaD_SfUdMdAyLSIebdU.0X0fWlsSNTFbejtZqVFMTvq31QO7jT0kCot0vcoNjR1cfBE4_sGOJq8eZYoMM7IaKBXizbnbhxx1vU11ZK7Ol3LztvdNQLe3Hl1T7o98tRVNNKLJu19O28YVLUwcZEOgB0Nkf.8j0NCYOZkgN2Q-- Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:58:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:58:08 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909300745g6cc030baxb8309b7745e6ba8f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:58:09 -0000 > From: Adam Vande More > Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 > To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 11:45 AM > On Wed, Sep 30, > 2009 at 9:38 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > wrote: >=20 > Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 without > success. Any hint? >=20 >=20 >=20 > This is my data: >=20 >=20 >=20 > uname -a: >=20 > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain 7.2-STABLE-200906 > FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun =A07 10:23:49 UTC 2009 > =A0 =A0 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > =A0amd64 >=20 >=20 >=20 > freebsd-update: >=20 >=20 >=20 > [root@toshiba-leo]# freebsd-update -v debug -r 8.0-RC1 > upgrade >=20 > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org > mirrors... 3 mirrors found. >=20 > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update5.Fre= eBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > Not Found >=20 > failed. >=20 > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update2.Fre= eBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > Not Found >=20 > failed. >=20 > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update4.Fre= eBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > Not Found >=20 > failed. >=20 > No mirrors remaining, giving up. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 >=20 > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > man freebsd-update >=20 > DESCRIPTION > =A0=A0=A0=A0 The freebsd-update tool is used to fetch, install, > and rollback binary > =A0=A0=A0=A0 updates to the FreeBSD base system.=A0 Note that > updates are only available >=20 > =A0=A0=A0=A0 if they are being built for the FreeBSD release > and architecture being > =A0=A0=A0=A0 used; in particular, the FreeBSD Security Team > only builds updates for > =A0=A0=A0=A0 releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD > Release Engineering Team, >=20 > =A0=A0=A0=A0 e.g., FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but > not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE > =A0=A0=A0=A0 or FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT. >=20 > You are not running supported version. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Adam Vande More >=20 Thanks Adam, any workaround to upgrade to 8.0? Leonardo.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 14:59:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E4C10656AB; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277EC8FC21; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n8UExPEd031702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:25 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:59:36 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 30/09/2009 à 18:45:35+0400, Dmitry Marakasov a écrit > * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > > > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > > have the patch file for the system.mk ? > > Please try this: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar > > It builds file in tinderbox, but I haven't tested how it works yet. I'm happy to see I'm not the only ET (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/) to like this wm ;-) Well I've just try you tar....but it's not working. Finally after 3 h I get a system.mk working. I'm sure every normal developper can do better. But for me I've my ion working ;-) Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mer 30 sep 2009 16:56:08 CEST --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="system.mk" ## ## System settings ## ## ## Installation paths ## # Installation path prefix. Unless you know what you're doing, the default # of /usr/local is likely the correct choice. PREFIX=/usr/local # Unless you are creating a package conforming to some OS's standards, you # probably do not want to modify the following directories: # Main binaries BINDIR=$(PREFIX)/bin # Configuration .lua files ETCDIR=$(PREFIX)/etc/ion3 # Some .lua files and ion-* shell scripts SHAREDIR=$(PREFIX)/share/ion3 # Manual pages MANDIR=$(PREFIX)/share/man # Some documents DOCDIR=$(PREFIX)/share/doc/ion3 # Nothing at the moment INCDIR=$(PREFIX)/include/ion3 # Nothing at the moment LIBDIR=$(PREFIX)/lib # Modules MODULEDIR=$(LIBDIR)/ion3/mod # Compiled Lua source code LCDIR=$(LIBDIR)/ion3/lc # ion-completefile (does not belong in SHAREDIR being a binary file) EXTRABINDIR=$(LIBDIR)/ion3/bin # For ion-completeman system-wide cache VARDIR=/var/cache/ion3 # Message catalogs LOCALEDIR=$(PREFIX)/share/locale # Executable suffix (for Cygwin). #BIN_SUFFIX = .exe ## ## Modules ## # Set PRELOAD_MODULES=1 if your system does not support dynamically loaded # modules through 'libdl' or has non-standard naming conventions. # You will likely need this option on e.g. Cygwin and Mac OS X. #PRELOAD_MODULES=1 # Flags to link with libdl. Even if PRELOAD_MODULES=1, you may need this # setting (for e.g. Lua, when not instructed by pkg-config). #DL_LIBS=-ldl ## ## Lua ## # If you have installed Lua 5.1 from the official tarball without changing # paths, this should do it. LUA_DIR=/usr/local LUA_LIBS = -L$(LUA_DIR)/lib/lua51 -llua LUA_INCLUDES = -I$(LUA_DIR)/include/lua51 LUA=$(LUA_DIR)/bin/lua-5.1 LUAC=$(LUA_DIR)/bin/luac-5.1 # If you are using the Debian packages, the following settings should be # what you want. #LUA_LIBS=`pkg-config --libs lua5.1` #LUA_INCLUDES=`pkg-config --cflags lua5.1` #LUA=/usr/bin/lua5.1 #LUAC=/usr/bin/luac5.1 ## ## X libraries, includes and options ## # Paths X11_PREFIX=/usr/local # SunOS/Solaris #X11_PREFIX=/usr/openwin X11_LIBS=-L$(X11_PREFIX)/lib -lX11 -lXext X11_INCLUDES=-I$(X11_PREFIX)/include # XFree86 libraries up to 4.3.0 have a bug that can cause a segfault. # The following setting should work around that situation. DEFINES += -DCF_XFREE86_TEXTPROP_BUG_WORKAROUND # Use the Xutf8 routines (XFree86 extension) instead of the Xmb routines # in an UTF-8 locale. (No, you don't need this in UTF-8 locales, and # most likely don't even want. It's only there because both Xmb and # Xutf8 routines are broken, in different ways.) #DEFINES += -DCF_DE_USE_XUTF8 # Remap F11 key to SunF36 and F12 to SunF37? You may want to set this # on SunOS. #DEFINES += -DCF_SUN_F1X_REMAP ## ## Localisation ## # If you're on an archaic system (such as relatively recent *BSD releases) # without even dummy multibyte/widechar and localisation support, you may # have to uncomment the following line: DEFINES += -DCF_NO_LOCALE -DCF_NO_GETTEXT # On some other systems you may need to explicitly link against libintl. #EXTRA_LIBS += -lintl # You may also need to give the location of its headers. The following # should work on Mac OS X (which needs the above option as well) with # macports. #EXTRA_INCLUDES += -I/opt/local/include ## ## libc ## # You may uncomment this if you know that your system C libary provides # asprintf and vasprintf. (GNU libc does.) If HAS_SYSTEM_ASPRINTF is not # defined, an implementation provided in libtu/sprintf_2.2/ is used. #HAS_SYSTEM_ASPRINTF=1 # The following setting is needed with GNU libc for clock_gettime and the # monotonic clock. Other systems may not need it, or may not provide a # monotonic clock at all (which Ion can live with, and usually detect). EXTRA_LIBS += -lrt # Cygwin needs this. #DEFINES += -DCF_NO_GETLOADAVG # # If you're using/have gcc, it is unlikely that you need to modify # any of the settings below this line. # ##################################################################### ## ## C compiler. ## CC=gcc # Same as '-Wall -pedantic' without '-Wunused' as callbacks often # have unused variables. WARN= -W -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment \ -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts \ -Wparentheses -pedantic -Wuninitialized CFLAGS=-Os $(WARN) $(DEFINES) $(INCLUDES) $(EXTRA_INCLUDES) LDFLAGS=$(LIBS) $(EXTRA_LIBS) EXPORT_DYNAMIC=-Xlinker --export-dynamic # The following options are mainly for development use and can be used # to check that the code seems to conform to some standards. Depending # on the version and vendor of you libc, the options may or may not have # expected results. If you define one of C99_SOURCE or XOPEN_SOURCE, you # may also have to define the other. #C89_SOURCE=-ansi #POSIX_SOURCE=-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200112L # Most systems #XOPEN_SOURCE=-D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED # SunOS, (Irix) #XOPEN_SOURCE=-D__EXTENSIONS__ #C99_SOURCE=-std=c99 -DCF_HAS_VA_COPY # The -DCF_HAS_VA_COPY option should allow for some optimisations, and # in some cases simply defining #C99_SOURCE=-DCF_HAS_VA_COPY # might allow for those optimisations to be taken without any special # libc or compiler options. ## ## make depend ## DEPEND_FILE=.depend DO_MAKE_DEPEND=$(CC) -MM $(DEFINES) $(INCLUDES) $(EXTRA_INCLUDES) MAKE_DEPEND=$(DO_MAKE_DEPEND) $(SOURCES) > $(DEPEND_FILE) ## ## AR ## AR=ar ARFLAGS=cr RANLIB=ranlib ## ## Install & strip ## INSTALL=sh $(TOPDIR)/install-sh -c INSTALL_STRIP=-s INSTALLDIR=mkdir -p BIN_MODE=755 DATA_MODE=644 RM=rm ## ## Debugging ## #INSTALL_STRIP = #CFLAGS += -g --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:10:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AFC106566B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C478B8FC17; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57743498E; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:10:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:10:09 +0200 From: cpghost To: Greg Lewis Message-ID: <20090930151009.GA1937@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090928101048.GA1189@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090929034837.GA56588@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090929034837.GA56588@misty.eyesbeyond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: java/jdk16 vulnerability? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:10:13 -0000 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:48:37PM -0700, Greg Lewis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:10:48PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > > Freenet (http://www.freenetproject.org/) on my FreeBSD/amd64 system > > complains about an old and vulnerable Java version: > > > > Your installed version of Java is vulnerable to a severe remote > > exploit (remote code execution!). You must upgrade to at least Java > > 5 update 20 or Java 6 update 15 as soon as possible. Freenet has > > disabled any plugins handling XML for the time being, but this > > includes searching and chat so you should upgrade ASAP! > > We're almost certainly vulnerable. The jdk16 port is at Update 3. Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. > > See http://www.cert.fi/en/reports/2009/vulnerability2009085.html for > > details. > > > > Also, please do not use Thaw or Freetalk. The UPnP plugin is > > enabled, it might present a risk if you have bad guys on your LAN, > > but without it Freenet will not be able to port forward and will > > have severe problems. > > > > I'm running java/jdk16: > > > > phenom# java -version > > java version "1.6.0_03-p4" > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00) > > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-p4-root_08_sep_2009_17_05-b00, mixed mode) > > > > On 7.2-STABLE: > > > > phenom# uname -a > > FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 8 10:43:26 CEST 2009 root@phenom.cordula.ws:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > Is that version of Java really vulnerable? If yes, why doesn't > > # portaudit -Fda > > report it as such, and could you please update the java/jdk16 port? > > We need an entry in the VUXML database I guess. > > Updating java/jdk16 is going to be a slow process. There are lots of > changes between Update 3 and Update 15. I've partially merged Update 4, > but obviously that still leaves many to go... Looks like *a lot* of work... Any chance to see progress here before 8.0-RELEASE? It's not a big deal, but shipping an updated port without that vuln. would be nice. > Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com > Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com > Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org Thanks for the great work supporting JDK natively on FreeBSD, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0584E1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5128FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8UFMFNC027459; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:22:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8UFMFT9027458; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:22:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:22:14 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: PJ Message-ID: <20090930152214.GA27266@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:22:18 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:44:38PM -0400, PJ wrote: > I am getting more and more confused with all the info regarding backing > up and cloning or moving systems from disk to disk or computer to computer. > I would like to do 2 things: > 1. clone several instances of 7.2 from and existing installation > 2. set up a backup script to back up changes either every night or once > a week > > There are numerous solutions out there; but they are mostly confusing, > erroneous or non functional. > To start, could someone please explail to the the following, which I > found here:http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=185 This page is essentially correct. But, it covers several situations. You need to decide which situation you are working on. Are you trying to make a backup of your system in case something fails or are you trying to make a clone to boot in another system? As for the restore, are you trying to use it to create a disk to move to another machine to boot with or to recover a failed disk on the same machine or just have a bootable disk handy if your current one fails? Each is different. If you are just making a dump in case of a disk failure, then just dump to a file on some removable media (USB drive, Tape, across the net, etc) and forget about doing the restore for now. You do that if the disk fails and you have acquired a new disk and prepared it for service including slicing and partitioning and putting an MBR on it and a boot sector. Then you use the fixit boot to restore those backups. If you are making a clone drive to move to another system then you have to slice and partition the new drive and then do the piped dump-restores you indicate below. If you are making a disk to switch to in case of a failure, you start by making a slice and partitioned drive and do the dump-restores. But, then you keep it current using rsync. Note that in this case, you only do the dump-restore once. The rsync does all the updating. Alternatively you might use some of the mirroring software to make a mirror drive that is [almost] always an exact copy. That is a completely different process. If you are making a disk to move to another machine then you probably do not want the -u switch on the dump command. That is meant for making a series of full and change dumps as backups. > > You can move system from disk to disk on fly with > Code: > > $ newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a > $ mount /dev/ad2s1a.... /target > $ cd /target > $ dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | restore -rf - > > you can do the same using sudo > Code: > > $ sudo echo > $ sudo dump -0Lauf - /dev/ad1s1a | sudo restore -rf - > > This may be clear to someone; it certainly is not to me. > As I understand it, newfs will (re)format the slice. > Ok, But what is standard out in the above example. The dump is from > where to where? > Could someone clarify all this for me? The only thing the sudo does is make you root. If you are already root, you don't need it - as in the first example you give. In this particular case, it is probably better to just be root and run this as root. That wouldn't always be the case in every sudo situation. The dump command as you give it reads the /dev/ad1s1a file system and sends it to standard out. That is what the '-f -' part of the command tells it. The restore command reads from standard in and restores the data sent to it from the dump via the pipe which is the '|'. The pipe takes whatever is in the standard out from where it is coming and puts it in the standard in where it is going. > So far, I have been unable to dump the / slice, not even with the -L > option. I am trying to dump the whole system (all the slices)except swap > to a usb (sata2 500gb disk) and then restore to another computer with > 7.2 minimal installation. > Slices ad2s1d,e,f and g dump ok to usb. a does not - errors ("should use > -L when dumping live filesystems) So, what are the errors. > Do you have to newfs each slice before restoring? But if you are > restoring on a running 7.2 system, don't you have to restore to another > disk than the one the system is on? You have asked two unrelated questions. First: No, but it is a convenient way to make sure there is a clean receiving place. Actually, I don't bother doing the restore. I just write a dump file and leave it there in case I need to restore from it later. So my dump command would look something like: dump -0Laf /target/ad1s1adump /dev/ad1s1a So the file ad1s1adump would contain the dump. You might add in some characters that identify the date of the dump in the name of the file. Also, you can mount the source filesystem and dump using the mount name. So, if /dev/ad1s1a is normally mounted as /work, then it would work - and be mnemonic to do: dump -0Laf /target/workdump.20090930 /work Second: You cannot unmount a filesystem that is in use. But if you have permissions you can write to it. But, if you try to restore to the root filesystem of a running system, you can potentially really trash things. So, if you want to build a disk with dump-restores you want it to be on another disk. If you want, you could dump a filesystem and write the dump to a file on any filesystem that has room for it. After all, it is just a file. Or you could create a new directory where there is lots of room and do the dump piped to restore in to that new directory. But, there is not much reason to do that unless you are just practicing with dump and restore. Doing that you haven't really created anything except a copy of stuff in a place where it would also be lost if the disk failed. So, it only makes sense to write a dump to some media other than where you are reading it from - another disk, tape, wherever. > I am beginning to think that you have to have a system running and dumpt > to another disk on that system and then remove that disk and install in > another box and boot from that? > Am I getting close? > I know it's a lot to ask, but then, I know you guys are capable... :-) You are making it much more complicated than necessary. It is true that the most complete and pristine set of dumps can only be made from a system that is down in single user mode or even more so, from a separate boot from a fixit CD or other boot device. But in reality, that is rarely done. Systems cannot be taken down and left down for great lengths of time like that. So, dumps are normally made on and from running systems. Where you write the dump to and in what form is determined by what use you want to make of the dump as I mentioned above. Really, just pick your media. The dump system still assumes it is tape so if you don't use any -f then it will try to write to a tape drive. But, -f somefile or -f somedevice is now the norm. ( a pipe '|' is common if it goes directly to a restore or goes over the net to another host) Then write the dump to it and you have a backup. I do not know why your root dump is not working. You said there are errors, but I am not used to using my telepathic powers so I am having trouble seeing what those errors are. It might clear up a little if you reported them in your post, though I can't be sure of that. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:27:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F851065696 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3058FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8UFQut8027490; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:26:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8UFQtrN027489; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:26:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:26:55 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: PJ Message-ID: <20090930152655.GB27266@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <4AC2B3BB.4080807@videotron.ca> <20090930040733.91cc32d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC2C6FE.5030507@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:01 -0000 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:48:30PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:26:19 -0400, PJ wrote: > > > >> But what does that mean? But ad2s1a has just been newfs'd - so how can > >> it be dumped if its been formatted? > >> > > When you're working on this low level, triple-check all your > > commands. Failure to do so can cause data loss. In the example > > you presented, ad1 was the source disk, ad2 the target disk. > > You DON'T want to newfs your source disk. > > > >> And what exactly does stdout mean? > >> > > > > This refers to the standard output. In most cases, this is the > > terminal, the screen, such as > > > > # cat /etc/fstab > > > > will write the /etc/fstab to stdout. If you redirect it, for > > example by using > or |, you can make stdout a file, or the > > input - stdin - for another program. > > > > This is how the dump | restore process works: It leaves out > > the "use the tape" or "use the file", but instead directs the > > output of dump - the dump itself - to the restore program as > > input to be restored. > > > >> What is dump doing? outputting what to where exactly? > >> > > The dump program is outputting a dump of the specified partition > > to the standard output, which in this case is directly trans- > > mitted to the restore program, which "picks it up" and processes > > it = restores it. > > > >> I don't see it or > >> should I say, understand this at all. > > > > Have a look at the command line again, simplified: > > > > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > > > Run the dump program, do a full backup of the 1st partition of > > the 1st slice of the 1st disk, write this dump to the standard > > output, pipe this output to the restore program, do a full > > restore, read the dump to be restored from standard input. > > > >> and then the restore is from what > >> to where? > > > > The restore program gets the dump to be restored from the standard > > input - remember, that's the output of the dump program - and > > writes it to the current working directory. That's the reason > > why you should always check with > > > > # pwd > > > > in which directory you're currently located, because that will > > be the place where the restored data will appear. > > > >> "write error 10 blocks into volume 1 > >> do you want to restart:" > >> > > > > Could you present the command you're actually using, especially > > with where you issued it from? > > > Duh.... I think I see where this is leading... I'm pretty sure it was > issued from / which makes it redundant, right? I should have issued it > from somewhere else, like from home, usr or whatever but not from / as > that is what I was trying to dump.... :-[ No, that is not a problem. You can be in any directory and do the dump command, except if you want that restore to work you have to be in the receiving filesystem/directory. I just noticed that I missed that you were newfs-ing the wrong partition. That was the one you wanted to read from and your newfs would wipe out everything on it. If you do the newfs - a good idea - it has to be on the new filesystem you will be writing to. ////jerry > > > >> The first time I tried with -L the error was 20 blocks... > >> Both the slices for dump from and to are same size (2gb) and certainly > >> not full by a long shot ( if I reccall correctly, only about 14% is used) > >> > > > > I'm not sure where you put the dump file. "Write error" seems > > to indicate one of the following problems: > > a) The snapshot cannot be created. > > b) The dump file cannot be created. > > > > > > > > > >> And what's this about a snapshot? AFAIK, I'm not making a snapshot; > >> anyway, there is no long pause except for the dumb look on my face upon > >> seeing these messages. > >> > > > > Check "man dump" and search for the -L option. The dump program, > > in order to obtain a dump from a file system that's currently in > > use, will need to make a snapshot because it cannot handle data > > that is changing. So it will dump the data with the state of the > > snapshot, allowing the file system to be altered afterwards. > > > > > > > > > >> As it is, I am currently erasing the brand new 500gb disk on which I > >> want to restore. > >> > > > > Excellent. > > > > > > > > > >> Things started out really bad... don't u;nderstand what is going on. > >> > > > > Polite question: Have you read the manpages and the section in the > > Handbook? > > > Yes... but my brain can't handle it all so quickly... and being as > impatient as I am, I tend to miss things on the run... it usually comes > to me sooner or later... unfortunately, it's more often later than > sooner... I've been reading the stuff in the man pages, and getting more > confused by googling... Actually, I've been trying to get things > straightened ot for at least 3 days already. > > > > > > > >> I > >> installed a minimal 7.2, booted up and turned to another computer to do > >> some serious work. About 2 hours and 49 minutes later I notice messages > >> on the 7.2 about a page fault or something like that and then the system > >> reboots. > >> > > > > This often indicates a hardware problem... > > > Well, that's why I'm really checking my new disk... but it could be the > motherboard... I've always suspected it had something of a glitch in it > ever since I got it... I don't think just a slower cpu should give it so > many problems... a twin computer has the same hardware except for the > cpu and it gives far less problems - only MS related. > > > > > > > >> Obviously with errors... but then I reboot again and it comes > >> up... I tried som copying from another disk and ended up with the disk > >> all screwed up... > >> > > > > How that? > > > > > > > > > >> yet the Seagate Seatools for Dos doesnt find any > >> errors on it; > >> > > > > There's smartmontools (program: smartctl) for FreeBSD in the ports. > > It can check various errors of modern hard disks. > > > > > > > > > >> Partition magic found an error but couldn't fix it, so now > >> Im wiping the whole thing and will try to reinstall tomorrow. Doesn't > >> make sense. > >> > > > > What error was this? > > > Something about a boot sector - this is not the first time I have seen > this identical error but on much older hdd's, though still satas. > This does make me think that these problems are of hardware origin - > motherboard or sata connectors - I find they are rather Disneyesque > (Mickey Mouse) or just plain flimsy. > > Time to hit the sack... another day of computer frustration coming up... > I'm under pressure to lear Flash and have to set up a reliable server to > test a site I am designing and setting up. Have to do it myself... can't > afford about anything today. :-( > Thanks again for the input. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:27:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73601065672; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout5.freenet.de (mout5.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7253B8FC20; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1Mt15o-0002Mq-FU; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:27:48 +0200 Received: from tea3c.t.pppool.de ([89.55.234.60]:39912 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1Mt15o-0003i0-AE; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:27:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:27:46 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Dmitry Marakasov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:27:51 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:25 +0200 Albert Shih wrote: > Le 30/09/2009 __ 18:45:35+0400, Dmitry Marakasov a __crit > > * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > > > > > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > > > have the patch file for the system.mk ? > > > > Please try this: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar > > > > It builds file in tinderbox, but I haven't tested how it works yet. > > I'm happy to see I'm not the only ET (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/) > to like this wm ;-) > > Well I've just try you tar....but it's not working. > Not a very useful "error" message. I just installed it (9-CURRENT AMD64) and it works just fine for me. At least, the basic functionality seems to be there. I didn't do more testing because I can't stand it. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:29:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14A11065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6659D8FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so7103013yxe.3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VyIoY/DrcXwOax58tGiKSmE3Y2npbl3b1EYWWAP+Ceo=; b=r5mT4tozKP3/f2Cx0BB5xHV+CGS6g89qc1s8iyyTQAssY5hBRP8yher8TL1TyYTQ3g FXmjgZZJFsI8fTtXsRA/g27/q6FgPZqUKJJ8OPqTNqdp19ryUZnxpYyl3NJUH4oevyfW 1LYqVViTlwxsvpBCA3pfrgzikm7ItPWy4hQFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UqpH6np4x9knADrWRXgka1qWuE+utcNs5LXVMUR5lZsGXfhr6OGtyRZlnj/6CrGhPb gyvEnGBIYK5LZUb53l+KhTuOzIQVZCJr05R0hdeEI33EyVBgslrupgQ+aiY+J/riBjGM OhBVh2IteHZlXttW4Z1ofEEb8QGZ/DN77dqAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.104.2 with SMTP id b2mr192060ybc.19.1254324556673; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <34689.36983.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6201873e0909300745g6cc030baxb8309b7745e6ba8f@mail.gmail.com> <34689.36983.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909300829g642f22tadbbfdfba6ea18fe@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:29:17 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 w= rote: > > From: Adam Vande More > > Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 > > To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 11:45 AM > > On Wed, Sep 30, > > 2009 at 9:38 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > > wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 without > > success. Any hint? > > > > > > > > This is my data: > > > > > > > > uname -a: > > > > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain 7.2-STABLE-200906 > > FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun 7 10:23:49 UTC 2009 > > > > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > amd64 > > > > > > > > freebsd-update: > > > > > > > > [root@toshiba-leo]# freebsd-update -v debug -r 8.0-RC1 > > upgrade > > > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org > > mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > > > > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update5.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > > Not Found > > > > failed. > > > > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update2.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > > Not Found > > > > failed. > > > > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update4.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: > > Not Found > > > > failed. > > > > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > > > > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > man freebsd-update > > > > DESCRIPTION > > The freebsd-update tool is used to fetch, install, > > and rollback binary > > updates to the FreeBSD base system. Note that > > updates are only available > > > > if they are being built for the FreeBSD release > > and architecture being > > used; in particular, the FreeBSD Security Team > > only builds updates for > > releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD > > Release Engineering Team, > > > > e.g., FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but > > not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE > > or FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT. > > > > You are not running supported version. > > > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > > > > Thanks Adam, any workaround to upgrade to 8.0? > > Leonardo. > > I normally csup(1) whatever branch I'm trying to get too. /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile is a good starting although you'll need to edit *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_8 and an appropriat= e *default host=3D line. Then use handbook for building and installing http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html You'll also want to do something like the following from portmaster man page. Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your ports: 1. portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list 2. Update your ports tree 3. portmaster --clean-distfiles-all 4. portmaster --check-port-dbdir 5. portmaster -Faf 6. pkg_delete '*' 7. rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg 8. Manually check /usr/local and /var/db/pkg to make sure that they are really empty 9. portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` You probably want to use the -D option for the installation and then run --clean-distfiles[-all] again when you are done. You might also want to consider using the --force-config option when installing the new ports= . --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3381065697 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052FE8FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n8UFUx4O027531; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:30:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n8UFUxaq027530; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:30:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:30:58 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090930153058.GC27266@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:04 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:08:05AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > Forgot to mention this: > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:23:00 -0400, PJ wrote: > > 1. will the s1a slice dump the entire system, that is, the a, d, e, f > > and g slices or is it partitions? > > The ad0s1 slice (containing the a, d, e, f and g partitions) can > be copied 1:1 with dd. By using dump + restore, the partitions > need to be copied after another. In each case, the entire system > will be copied. For this purpose, even the long lasting > > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=1 > > method can be used. > It can be used, but it is not a good way to do it. That is because it copies sector by sector and the new disk/filesystem may not match the old exactly. Besides when it is newly written on a file by file basis, it can be more efficiently laid out and accomodate any changes in size and sector addressing. dd cannot do that. ////jerry > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 15:31:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B581A1065692 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2E8FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4AC379DE.7050902@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:31:42 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what is wrong with pear? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:31:46 -0000 After a pkg_delete -r pear I get /usr/ports/devel/pear# portinstall pear [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 204 packages found (-34 +0) (...) done] [Gathering depends for devel/pear ......................................... done] ---> Installing 'pear-1.9.0' from a port (devel/pear) ---> Building '/usr/ports/devel/pear' ===> Cleaning for pear-1.9.0 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for pear-1.9.0 => MD5 Checksum OK for pear-1.9.0.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for pear-1.9.0.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for pear-1.9.0 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for pear-1.9.0 ===> Configuring for pear-1.9.0 ---> Installing the new version via the port ===> Installing for pear-1.9.0 ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if devel/pear already installed *** Error code 254 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall20090930-15477-xp5bhw-0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! devel/pear (install error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:01:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7288E1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316E98FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt1by-0002md-2W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:19 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt1bx-0004I7-D3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:01 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UG11Er030112 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8UG11QR030111 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:01 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090930160101.GA30080@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: ---- Subject: how to play *.evo animations (EnSight proprietary format)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:01:21 -0000 I've several old *.evo animations. This is the proprietary format developed by CEI: http://www.ensight.com/envideo.html CEI have free players for MSWindows, MacOS and linux. I've had a quick look at the ports tree, and searched the net a bit, but cannot find a program which would play *.evo files on FreeBSD. Any suggestions? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:19:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D1E1065672; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518488FC17; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8F9DF8C083; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:19:15 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:19:16 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:05:08PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > I've seen the license change too. I'm working on the port currently. As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the developer threatened us with a lawsuit. This repeats what he has previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions. This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these platforms. Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:36:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E7E1065676 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992CD8FC2C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt2AT-0001yF-Ne for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt2AS-0004oj-Tq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:41 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UGaeIG045436 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8UGaeCG045435 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:36:40 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: ---- Subject: mplayer: X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36:45 -0000 I've installed port multimedia/mplayer (mplayer-0.99.11_14) on 9.0-current ia64. Trying to play an mpeg video I get endless stream of X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) V: 7.6 190/190 17% 82% 0.0% 0 0 X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Exiting... (End of file) Please advise many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:58:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91B9106568B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BCA8FC2C; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n8UGwhtd005027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:58:44 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:58:43 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Gary Jennejohn Message-ID: <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:58:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Dmitry Marakasov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:58:46 -0000 Le 30/09/2009 à 17:27:46+0200, Gary Jennejohn a écrit > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:25 +0200 > Albert Shih wrote: > > > Le 30/09/2009 __ 18:45:35+0400, Dmitry Marakasov a __crit > > > * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > > > > have the patch file for the system.mk ? > > > > > > Please try this: > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar > > > > > > It builds file in tinderbox, but I haven't tested how it works yet. > > > > I'm happy to see I'm not the only ET (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/) > > to like this wm ;-) > > > > Well I've just try you tar....but it's not working. > > > > Not a very useful "error" message. You right. > > I just installed it (9-CURRENT AMD64) and it works just fine for me. At > least, the basic functionality seems to be there. You right again.... It's work...I don't known why (I'm not a FreeBSD-ports guru...) if I try to build outside the ports tree, just with the patch file it's don't wokr. But inside de ports tree it's working. I'm using FreeBSD-8.0-RC1 with all ports up2date. Thanks for Dmitry for this ports. I'm going to keep this thing somewhere Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mer 30 sep 2009 18:56:32 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:59:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317D1065693 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E328FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt2We-0002wy-U2; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:40 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt2We-00055U-3g; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:36 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UGxaG3045577; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8UGxZQH045576; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:35 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090930165935.GB45545@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: -- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer: X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:41 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:36:40PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've installed port multimedia/mplayer (mplayer-0.99.11_14) > on 9.0-current ia64. > > Trying to play an mpeg video I get endless stream of > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > V: 7.6 190/190 17% 82% 0.0% 0 0 > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > Exiting... (End of file) the same error happens on i386 HEAD: Playing /usr/home/mexas/ex1.mpg. MPEG-ES file format detected. VIDEO: MPEG1 656x432 (aspect 1) 25.000 fps 1152.0 kbps (144.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough VDec: vo config request - 656 x 432 (preferred colorspace: Mpeg PES) Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale... Opening video filter: [scale] The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. Try appending the scale filter to your filter list, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp. VDecoder init failed :( Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm: libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2)) ========================================================================== Audio: no sound Starting playback... VDec: vo config request - 656 x 432 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is 1.52:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [xv] 656x432 => 656x432 Planar YV12 New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf). subtitle font: load_sub_face failed. [ws] Error in display. [ws] Error code: 11 ( BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) ) [ws] Request code: 132 [ws] Minor code: 19 [ws] Modules: flip_page many thanks for any advice -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 16:59:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA78910656B9; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407D08FC2C; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so727139ewy.36 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=agC/GEnFMIK5Wc2gOuALU1hlgc4IIlMcIKs1AQhqd70=; b=QXzvwy/Tgywk2RCjOSIeSVS0yIdg6plgfJ0WqbOvzR0yOCXGPeiSsLH1kDBIt/3x6r tWgT+2RSDZq3NEu5OHnOh4pkok4J5Q03VMPTo8TSnpwGWBZo/qn1H2G0lCrvPQz4XzzH Vr5ZZK6ShOpJrRug8maL2mriR3F62Hf5BJpoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=KuVnAJSrZWLdmiT4zJwikAEbBnBxO9c1tSAm16vWK1lOZX3WEXYnuzkvH/wN6PtWyb 5VlO0qDNWpUBTC8C7vg8ko7qS0JQHsl6a3CC0UpfWLkhCZr2HhLbo+FVW/xeM3KFH28c Ewk5A7Qb80wvzQ1V0u/nVPQL08I7uQeHPSp6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.9.5 with SMTP id 5mr6378793ebi.78.1254328743648; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:39:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: dougb@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions regarding portmaster's man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:54 -0000 Hi! The man page for portmaster say this: Alternatively you could use portmaster -a -f -D to do an ``in place'' update of your ports. If that process is interrupted for any reason you can use portmaster -a -f -D -R to avoid rebuilding ports already rebuilt on previous runs. However the first method (delete everything and rein- stall) is preferred. I'm wondering why the first method is preferred. -- chs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 17:16:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286691065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0548E8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KQS00LBGNZ6QFI0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AC39264.5090707@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:16:20 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: just cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:16:19 -0000 Maybe this is what I really need since I want to set up 3 identical 7.2 computers and back them up and update as needed. This should assure a minimum of headaches like what I have been experienceg lately. This link http://cabstand.com/usbflash.html seems to be about right, but I'd like to get some opinions on what would be the best way to go about this. I assume that I must do one difinitive installation on 1 computer. Then to clone, do I dump the partitions to a usb disk and restore to the other two computers; or do I follow the instructions on the above link. Obviously, it would be nice if it could be K.I.S.S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 17:42:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C29106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091248FC20 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4489992.home.otenet.gr [94.71.79.16]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n8UHg0NC003888; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:42:00 +0300 Message-ID: <4AC39868.3080701@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:42:00 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PJ References: <4AC39264.5090707@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <4AC39264.5090707@videotron.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: just cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:42:03 -0000 PJ wrote: > Maybe this is what I really need since I want to set up 3 identical 7.2 > computers and back them up and update as needed. This should assure a > minimum of headaches like what I have been experienceg lately. > This link > http://cabstand.com/usbflash.html > seems to be about right, but I'd like to get some opinions on what would > be the best way to go about this. > I assume that I must do one difinitive installation on 1 computer. Then > to clone, do I dump the partitions to a usb disk and restore to the > other two computers; or do I follow the instructions on the above link. > Obviously, it would be nice if it could be K.I.S.S. > > Can't tell about these instructions (would be nice to try them though) but I can assure you I've used the dump/restore method numerous times and it works great. There are a few things one should take care of: 1. Don't forget to install MBR / boot blocks on your new disk after restoring the dump(s) (see also this post http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201809.html) 2. Don't forget to manually create directories that you excluded from your dump (like /dev /mnt) 3. Since you will (obviously) not dump /tmp don't forget to set the sticky bit on it when you newfs and mount it - All sort of weird things will happen if it is not set. 4. If the machines are identical it probably doesn't matter, but it would be a good idea to label the partitions so you don't have to rely on device names in fstab (as these change depending on the motherboard, disk controller, sata connector used etc.), see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html You can even restore by booting the FreeBSD live FS CD (or the DVD). As I recall you may have to define TMPDIR to something writable (to a directory in the USB disk you are using for the dumps) for restore to work properly. Restore will tell you about this if needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 17:51:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9664C1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E238FC21 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so7226638yxe.3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:51:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bVCkz6oS8paKeVw362H66xsjN23+HGjnNbnZZv/67Hs=; b=Oi0zU8ClpjYCXuSEcTMHTf+w0jZRxpflHozUOEU1vGk7xuyRGuzNqP6f+TDhmEAzro tII1UAj1icxr0+oNPRNPUcL18pQ8K50TlL5vQSKj/qKqH0rKnQeYLrKrsYo8/Rct/nNR IFw1UwJQw2xl5QGdKKDZF8FsYun3RSsJ3VlfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AP2p6pJeFFTiQTu0Ai6iucWjL4KAPAO+Cy1YokBveev6pmgLrsSf2dTBk2hNSlfL2n KyH3iUDMVZk8L+mlw9WXp99h0l0vGLI1aw8e5S4slhU2Q5YWPzBBp0fKS1e4szC5B1iE YOIPrRngCJCyxxvdHoGTLxkEUhwhEy4/RrIp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.183.7 with SMTP id k7mr83787anp.164.1254333065129; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:51:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <754696.37431.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <754696.37431.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:51:05 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem upgrading 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:06 -0000 On 9/30/09, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0-RC1 without success. Any hint? > > This is my data: > > uname -a: > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain 7.2-STABLE-200906 FreeBSD > 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun 7 10:23:49 UTC 2009 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > freebsd-update: > > [root@toshiba-leo]# freebsd-update -v debug -r 8.0-RC1 upgrade > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update5.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update2.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... fetch: > http://update4.FreeBSD.org/7.2-STABLE-200906/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Found > failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > > > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com freebsd-update code (at last check) supported updating -RELEASE and -SECURITY systems, but not -STABLE. Because it's trying to fetch a -STABLE uname, and it doesn't have an idea of the latest time it was built (looks like a snapshot, to us humans), it is unable to move past the keys. You'll need to run -RELEASE[-p#] to update or update from source. the freebsd-update program is a shell script. read it, it's enlightening. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:11:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57CD1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660C68FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8UJBlqf031039 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:11:47 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> In-Reply-To: <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:11:47 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.035 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:11:48 -0000 > I had similar troubles with hal. > > The easiest solutions is to get rid of hal. Deinstall it. The xorg-package > you can compile without hal (use make configure and uncheck hal) and it > will work. > > Cheers > herb langhans Thank you. I discovered that compiling all ports on the relevant machine made it compile and start. Isn't it odd that the ones compiled on a slightly different i386 machine didn't? Anyway, the mouse still doesn't work in X, and from what I'm hearing, it's possible to get the mouse to work in X without it, so I am going to get rid of hal. By the way, any ideas on why the mouse input mightn't work in X? It's a usb mouse, but moused in text mode works with it. Cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:20:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2811065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0F8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UJK2Nb081421; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:20:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UJK2u8081418; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:20:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:20:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: chrisa@uvic.ca In-Reply-To: <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:03 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: > I discovered that compiling all ports on the relevant machine made it > compile and start. Isn't it odd that the ones compiled on a slightly > different i386 machine didn't? Not really. There are lots of ways for two "slightly" different machines to be really different. > Anyway, the mouse still doesn't work in X, and from what I'm hearing, > it's possible to get the mouse to work in X without it, so I am going > to get rid of hal. Or you could fix your configuration. > By the way, any ideas on why the mouse input mightn't work in X? It's a > usb mouse, but moused in text mode works with it. Your xorg.conf probably has outdated options in it. But it's hard to tell without seeing it. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:20:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F22C10656A9 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5A58FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so7298946yxe.3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:20:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k/Z1Ribw24kxE6FOjzFcOWd4gTHZY7fSuDqOy2Xbkw8=; b=WtJl0dz+iSGTk2L/CrOW9Q8FZeO0yXYyZrn2oaUtgjqh3/+d4W3iR6+wpBznmclhQo cEUwaE8lj4MO8sHUsBdfhJdhUuTSIfnbKrretWTwZQX1CEaeINr80TuC6q+eE4vHL67l YOO95Z/ZGYNOc2MK7pgNRTci5t7736SVtGFvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ALVWpy/8utX6obPfcXtrPGLdN45VEBmFqonfM9wvRq6RcQj48HA/AZz0tkpjhrOvE9 B5+ybCx8R/HBemZ8NGsl1Jb8N8d8/UV83n64X7rhNOYklBkJx2Uyo3CT+y1dbdtTPa0z lg8W710PNHJCWV/ug+AGx9R8pcdsW81XS88uE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.81.13 with SMTP id e13mr495397ybb.247.1254338429208; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:20:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: chrisa@uvic.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:20:30 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM, wrote: > > I had similar troubles with hal. > > > > The easiest solutions is to get rid of hal. Deinstall it. The > xorg-package > > you can compile without hal (use make configure and uncheck hal) and it > > will work. > > > > Cheers > > herb langhans > > Thank you. > > I discovered that compiling all ports on the relevant machine made it > compile and start. Isn't it odd that the ones compiled on a slightly > different i386 machine didn't? Anyway, the mouse still doesn't work in X, > and from what I'm hearing, it's possible to get the mouse to work in X > without it, so I am going to get rid of hal. > > By the way, any ideas on why the mouse input mightn't work in X? It's a > usb mouse, but moused in text mode works with it. > > Cheers. > > My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much adversity to it on this list. Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:39:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FC01065670; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6028FC19; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n8UJd1nE009287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:01 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Gary Jennejohn Message-ID: <20090930193901.GG1872@obspm.fr> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Dmitry Marakasov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:39:05 -0000 Le 30/09/2009 à 18:58:43+0200, Albert Shih a écrit > Le 30/09/2009 à 17:27:46+0200, Gary Jennejohn a écrit > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:25 +0200 > > Albert Shih wrote: > > > > > Le 30/09/2009 __ 18:45:35+0400, Dmitry Marakasov a __crit > > > > * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someone > > > > > have the patch file for the system.mk ? > > > > > > > > Please try this: > > > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar > > > > > > > > It builds file in tinderbox, but I haven't tested how it works yet. > > > > > > I'm happy to see I'm not the only ET (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/) > > > to like this wm ;-) > > > > > > Well I've just try you tar....but it's not working. > > > > > > > Not a very useful "error" message. > > You right. > > > > > I just installed it (9-CURRENT AMD64) and it works just fine for me. At > > least, the basic functionality seems to be there. > > You right again.... > > It's work...I don't known why (I'm not a FreeBSD-ports guru...) if I try to > build outside the ports tree, just with the patch file it's don't wokr. > > But inside de ports tree it's working. > and after 3h of using, I think the ports is good. You save «my life» ;-) Thanks again. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mer 30 sep 2009 21:38:11 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:40:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D64910656B3 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559D08FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8UJeZ1h015397 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:35 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:36 -0700 Message-ID: <45d55dc9d6900799e4ad0a56e7f57377.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:40:36 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.034 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40:38 -0000 > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: > >> I discovered that compiling all ports on the relevant machine made it >> compile and start. Isn't it odd that the ones compiled on a slightly >> different i386 machine didn't? > > Not really. There are lots of ways for two "slightly" different > machines to be really different. Fair enough. This makes me wonder, though, how the packages downloaded from the ftp server can be run without problems on most machines. What is the difference between the machine compiling those for everyone to use and me compiling my own for another of my machines to use? Is there something you have to do to make sure they're compatible? >> Anyway, the mouse still doesn't work in X, and from what I'm hearing, >> it's possible to get the mouse to work in X without it, so I am going >> to get rid of hal. > > Or you could fix your configuration. I'd love to. >> By the way, any ideas on why the mouse input mightn't work in X? It's a >> usb mouse, but moused in text mode works with it. > > Your xorg.conf probably has outdated options in it. But it's hard to > tell without seeing it. Actually, I don't have one at all. I'm letting Xorg autodetect everything. Evidently it's not autodetecting the mouse. I'm thinking it's time to try manual configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:43:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5CE106568F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D478FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8UJhB6F016987 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:43:11 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:43:11 -0700 Message-ID: <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:43:11 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.033 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:43:12 -0000 > My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and > smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much > adversity to it on this list. > > Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? I do have it installed. I'm going to try manual configuration to see if I can make it work. By the way, you find it faster and smoother with hal enabled? I recall reading an earlier thread about hal where some people found everything slower and less responsive. Interesting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:50:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4BA106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f215.google.com (mail-gx0-f215.google.com [209.85.217.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B098FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so5802456gxk.14 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ACIRVpJLHPvhHqIi2l4fyg2nEPhpr1vXVoAebrGvKRs=; b=UKOpTdGkIpXOkhYEGi8VYohGOUq8nFNZVX8/haUmMDdu3TjnS5IwZPRogJNYiT+3zA DP6X4EMj9B7gbG1ZmKpzheYma1nJ45fTam5fVWq9J33AYhCI5w59A231taMZyKQpZD07 XyvSadcUcIE1hTdI2eWRfcXheq6Wex+4ovDpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hqKNt3bCNJFaWozH6ThD9aFX8X8nhOyAMMOhSaGGqF4ow6HfYECBoyvvlYekTsqLuy 2JDyOQeXJNKlIGWPUyX7qmJBhMnOF5Ko39gi9Q0dtP20XVOXOEq2AZ4MVcJqYfJ0jOI4 BwArV/TcYNNnYaye9f6CNUVfH1L9SoXsfeZd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.130.31 with SMTP id c31mr553528ybd.278.1254340201546; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0909301250h2c7bd96es1666a89262d3ab5b@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: chrisa@uvic.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:50:02 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:43 PM, wrote: > > My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and > > smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much > > adversity to it on this list. > > > > Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? > > I do have it installed. I'm going to try manual configuration to see if I > can make it work. > > By the way, you find it faster and smoother with hal enabled? Yup I recall > reading an earlier thread about hal where some people found everything > slower and less responsive. Interesting. > I think this was due to couple of different factors with a large one being a one point there was a bug causing extreme cpu usage. IMO, there was also been a lot of misinformation and probably misconfiguration due to it. As stated already, posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the best way to solve this. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 19:51:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313561065698; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47608FC13; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n8UJpj9l014292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:51:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:51:45 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20090930195145.GH1872@obspm.fr> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:51:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Dmitry Marakasov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:51:49 -0000 Le 30/09/2009 à 11:19:15-0500, Mark Linimon a écrit > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:05:08PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > > I've seen the license change too. I'm working on the port currently. > > As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the > developer threatened us with a lawsuit. This repeats what he has > previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions. > This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these > platforms. > > Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels > the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too > much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute. > Well I think you decision is already take so I'm not going argue with you. Just little information : As I understand Tuomo Valkonen as stop the developement of this software. Here is what he say : «I have recently given up on the failure known as Linux, and switched to Windows. As I thus probably won't be working much on Ion3 anymore, and since it seems very stable anyway, the 28-day clause in the license should serve little practical purpose anymore. It has therefore been lifted.» --> http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/news.html Anyway if you don't want that ports I can understand easily why. That make me sad, but thanks to Dmitry I can use ion-3 and because ion-3 not going to evolve I'm going to keep that «pseudo-ports» in some «safe»-place. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mer 30 sep 2009 21:51:13 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:02:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C1B106568D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89E08FC1E for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UK2CXp081580; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:02:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UK2Cu0081577; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:02:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:02:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: chrisa@uvic.ca In-Reply-To: <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:02:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:02:14 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: >> My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and >> smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much >> adversity to it on this list. >> >> Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? > > I do have it installed. I'm going to try manual configuration to see if I > can make it work. If you can tell what graphics card you have, no doubt someone can provide a sample. I can come up with ones for ATI and Intel. > By the way, you find it faster and smoother with hal enabled? I recall > reading an earlier thread about hal where some people found everything > slower and less responsive. Interesting. It turns out that hal plus a "disable hal" option makes things not work. The opposite is probably also true. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:04:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94EA106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47188FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D38234D426; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:34:53 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: , "'Frank Steinborn'" References: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru><20090929184641.GA17580@haydn.nognu.de> <1B6DC3865C3A46D0A1863A674C6CEAA4@sleuth64> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:34:28 -0700 Message-ID: <6D413C54678B485E90645DF432C705E8@sleuth64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpBNUICvmPKvbRwSEK2nmLrayI2ywACoCPQACr+IgA= In-Reply-To: <1B6DC3865C3A46D0A1863A674C6CEAA4@sleuth64> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:04:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > david@vizion2000.net > Sent: 29 September 2009 13:06 > To: 'Frank Steinborn' > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Frank > > Steinborn > > Sent: 29 September 2009 11:47 > > To: David Southwell > > Cc: '???????? ?????????'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 > > > > David Southwell wrote: > > > By base-bind I mean the version of bind that is included > in freebsd > > > 7.2 operating system which is a version earlier than the > > latest Bind96. > > > > > > When installing bind96 and I did not keep base-bind. > > > > > > Now multiple ports give the following type of problem > -this is just > > > one example. > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 > > > > > > compile stops with message: > > > > > > ===> gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - > > > found > > > gnome-vfs-2.24.1_1: bind installed with PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIOND > > > causes build problems. > > > *** error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > > > *** Error Code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs > > > _____________________________________________________ > > > > You should be able to restore the bind from base by using the > > install.sh script in /usr/src/contrib/bind9. Deinstall the > port first, > > though. > > > ThanksI deinstalled the port and tried to run install-sh > > # sh install-sh > and got the response: > > install: no input file specified > > Any chance you might make me a little wiser on how to use install-sh?\ > > Thanks > > David > Sorrty to ask again - but I really need to solve this problem asap. Thanks in advance David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:17:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23631065676 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333F98FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4935761bwz.43 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0XxIrnke+db7kcqCJNCXxSx5GZ938p/G+IyZI803hzk=; b=m70KUM5Nr9YBeCMAO2EHUhhJWXWPqpyvQDjUKAb/IMFl22Ei/22dh3hZywg3cuuBX+ Scw8Jlj3WdjWaKih0feqR7BeX45uv0tym+Lh6cdq9pI7Wr/80/SFA/VWSzZQm8EfoMom CoHyTyBW+OaJq82JNAMk5enIjnmDzpV1XYXyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bD2cM9s6JpzLJbzv0D9CGh00IgH8DlfKP4YYcSzz9GDKlxoHoVBkH/XIqzKklC8MBF YXamvCVhB1Sqn6XD20hZP/lSedHSOXk2wxN8A+dkQeZ8Oxz1ZQien2EdljZjDKlhtmPA FXggygEc0xXUnTJY6KXM/44x+fy08M5YS1o/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.2.205 with SMTP id 13mr67616fak.83.1254341859924; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1d7089c40909301317o33aa2805vea77c392e4b886b8@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: Warren Block , Kenneth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: more problems. but not with 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:17:41 -0000 First, I want to thank Kenneth and Warren, and a few others who's names I never caught. I am up now with FBSD 7.2, on a browser and with my air-card running. Okay, so now I am back at work on my application. A few of you know of my "science-fiction" work. I'm trying to run a movie using mplayer. Here follows the text from an X session. How do I configure my sound (same machine, the CQ60-419WM,) and also tighen up the font's, please? Player 1.0rc2-4.2.1 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) SI-42 (Family: 17, Model: 3, Stepping: 1) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. Playing DAF_English.mov. ISO: File Type Major Brand: Original QuickTime Quicktime/MOV file format detected. [mov] Video stream found, -vid 0 [mov] Audio stream found, -aid 2 VIDEO: [avc1] 720x404 24bpp 23.976 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264) ========================================================================== ========================================================================== Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000) Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio) decoder) ========================================================================== [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory AO: [null] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Starting playback... VDec: vo config request - 720 x 404 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied. VO: [xv] 720x404 => 720x404 Planar YV12 New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf). subtitle font: load_sub_face failed. A: 111.8 V: 111.8 A-V: 0.001 ct: 0.022 2682/2682 8% 2% 1.0% 26 0 Exiting... (Quit) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:36:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687CA1065697 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1938FC25 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8UKaEfr015033 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:36:14 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:36:14 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:36:14 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.032 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:36:15 -0000 > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: > >>> My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and >>> smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much >>> adversity to it on this list. >>> >>> Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? >> >> I do have it installed. I'm going to try manual configuration to see if >> I >> can make it work. > > If you can tell what graphics card you have, no doubt someone can > provide a sample. I can come up with ones for ATI and Intel. It's a Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or something. Built-in to the motherboard. That's what Xorg autodetects, anyway, and it starts up and shows blackbox. I ran Xorg -configure and started it with the result xorg.conf.new, and that time the screen stayed black throughout. Odd. > >> By the way, you find it faster and smoother with hal enabled? I recall >> reading an earlier thread about hal where some people found everything >> slower and less responsive. Interesting. > > It turns out that hal plus a "disable hal" option makes things not work. > The opposite is probably also true. Interesting. Anyhow, I looked at my Xorg.0.log. I noticed a line saying it can't find any input devices, and relies upon hal to find them. Then I ran a ps -ax and found that hal isn't running, even though it should be, being set to start in rc.conf, along with dbus. So I started it, the startup script appeared to work, but hald still isn't running. Then I started dbus first, then hald, and they were both running, restarted X, and suddenly it works. I swear both were running last night when the mouse and keyboard input didn't work. They are, after all, set to start up at boot time. Also, the most recent Xorg.0.log contains the lines: (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. even though the mouse and keyboard both work now. To make sure that it was the most recent log file, I deleted all the Xorg logs, restarted it, and read the most recent one. And it still contains those lines with the working mouse and keyboard. Thanks, all, for your help. Now I only have TWO problems left! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:40:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C529106568F for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A078FC1E for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFA73D708; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8UKeYlD001529; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:40:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:40:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20090930224034.3c960afc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090930153058.GC27266@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4AC29BE6.4000505@videotron.ca> <20090930023051.cff2b0b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AC2C104.7090206@videotron.ca> <20090930050805.7f9d7252.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090930153058.GC27266@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups & cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:40:37 -0000 About the dd method: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:30:58 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > It can be used, but it is not a good way to do it. For regular backups or even for cloning, it's not very performant, I agree. I'm mostly using this method for forensic purposes, when I need a copy of a media (a whole disk, one slice or a particular partition) to toy around with, so I don't mess up the original data. > That is because it copies sector by sector and the new > disk/filesystem may not match the old exactly. That's a known problem. Another problem is time complexity. The dd program does copy everything - even the unused disk blocks (which don't need to be copied). This makes this process often last very long. > Besides > when it is newly written on a file by file basis, it can > be more efficiently laid out and accomodate any changes in > size and sector addressing. dd cannot do that. That's true. This is the point where tools like cpdup and rsync come into mind (according to creating backups or clones). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:42:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9AB106568D for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDAE8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF41E3D7B5; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:42:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8UKgJej001533; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:42:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:42:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20090930224219.bd05af90.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090930160101.GA30080@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090930160101.GA30080@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to play *.evo animations (EnSight proprietary format)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:42:20 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:01:01 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've had a quick look at the ports tree, and searched > the net a bit, but cannot find a program which would > play *.evo files on FreeBSD. > > Any suggestions? Have you already tried the "bleeding obvious", mplayer? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67EA1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D688FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE30331C2; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:45:03 +0200 From: cpghost To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090930204503.GA3865@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer: X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:45:17 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:36:40PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've installed port multimedia/mplayer (mplayer-0.99.11_14) > on 9.0-current ia64. > > Trying to play an mpeg video I get endless stream of > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > V: 7.6 190/190 17% 82% 0.0% 0 0 > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) This usually happens when X doesn't have enough resources to allocate to direct viewing with the xv (XView) driver. This is very often related to DRM/DRI or memory problems. As a work around, try playing the video with the x11 driver instead: $ mplayer -vo x11 somefile.avi On a very slow machine, x11 isn't as good as xv driver, but it's better than nothing. On a reasonably fast machine (2 GB or so), you shouldn't notice any difference. Also you can't use full screen mode with x11 driver like with xv, but if your CPU is fast enough, you can use software zooming with the -zoom option. BTW, I often experience that mplayer with -vo xv works very well the first time I start X (directly after booting), but not on subsequent starts of X. I traced this down to the following data point, but was unable to investigate further as I have NO experience in drm/dri debugging: On a first start of X on my machine, xvinfo yields: $ xvinfo X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 Adaptor #0: "RadeonHD Textured Video" number of ports: 16 port base: 64 operations supported: PutImage supported visuals: depth 24, visualID 0x21 no port attributes defined maximum XvImage size: 8192 x 8192 (...) and mplayer -vo xv ... and everything else works great; while on subsequent starts of X, it returns something like $ xvinfo X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present and mplayer -vo xv yields those X11 BadAlloc errors, and scrolling in tin/rtin, firefox etc... is *painfully* slow. This is with the following kld modules 5 1 0xffffffff80e67000 5ab6d radeon.ko 6 1 0xffffffff80ec2000 11795 drm.ko and radeonhd driver: drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.29.0 20080528 info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map info: [drm] Loading RS780/RS880 Microcode info: [drm] Resetting GPU info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs drm0: [ITHREAD] It may be similar with other Xorg drivers that can't initialize drm/dri properly, or can't allocate enough memory for DRI to mplayer. X11 BadAlloc can also happen on large videos only, while mplayer is able to play smaller videos with xv... Good luck. > Exiting... (End of file) > > Please advise > > many thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 20:48:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478001065693 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 937918FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.64?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:49:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC3D20C.6070803@infosec.pl> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:47:56 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ndis interface doesn't show up (intel 5300) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:48:59 -0000 Hello, I'm struggling to get Intel 5300 wireless mini pci-e card working on FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 (amd64, both GENERIC and my custom kernel). I get no error messages. Kernel module builds and loads fine but then ndis interface never shows up. Here is exactly what I'm doing: Drivers for XP64 downloaded from intel website. I've tried latest and old drivers. Unzipped on FreeBSD. Then: ndisgen NETw5x64.inf NETw5x64.sys This .INF file appears to be ASCII. [return] This .SYS file appears to be in Windows(r) PE format. [return] Driver file conversion - conversion was successful. [enter] Firmware file conversion [enter] Kernel module generation Generating Makefile... done. Building kernel module... done. Cleaning up... done. So NETw5x64_sys.ko has been successfully generated. Note that when it asks me for additional firmware files I don't give it any - is that ok? Then I'm moving this module to /boot/modules and I'm loading it: kldload -v NETw5x64_sys.ko Loaded NETw5x64_sys.ko, id=8 And that's pretty much it, module get loaded together with nids.ko and if_nids.ko but nothing really happens. No additional network interfaces, nothing in dmesg output. Tried with debug.ndis=1 and get no additional informations. Any ideas, please? Anybody got this card to work on FreeBSD? Michal -- "The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 21:33:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B763610656A4 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5ED8FC28 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:33:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4AC3CE96.3070509@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:33:10 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC379DE.7050902@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4AC379DE.7050902@intersonic.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what is wrong with pear? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:33:16 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > After a pkg_delete -r pear > > I get > > /usr/ports/devel/pear# portinstall pear > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 204 packages > found (-34 +0) (...) done] > [Gathering depends for devel/pear > ......................................... done] > ---> Installing 'pear-1.9.0' from a port (devel/pear) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/devel/pear' > ===> Cleaning for pear-1.9.0 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for pear-1.9.0 > => MD5 Checksum OK for pear-1.9.0.tar.bz2. > => SHA256 Checksum OK for pear-1.9.0.tar.bz2. > ===> Patching for pear-1.9.0 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for pear-1.9.0 > ===> Configuring for pear-1.9.0 > ---> Installing the new version via the port > ===> Installing for pear-1.9.0 > ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found > ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - > found > ===> pear-1.9.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - > found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if devel/pear already installed > *** Error code 254 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portinstall20090930-15477-xp5bhw-0 env make reinstall > ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > ! devel/pear (install error) Well, to answer myself, I don't know. After a pkg_delete -a pear installed ok again... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 21:41:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B738A106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmdlnkid@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0946A8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2075165fgg.13 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id :x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version:content-type; bh=DRayIFnoDfS9ZGnCFu06RW+7IIvbpdzOu+drRfqWl44=; b=GcGggjoK5WJh1IgfZFCLO3E2TbdWYaMq8nA2Q/XEP8w1CvNEQrsa0MST5X86HM93lJ 24+xeFrjVcaJe44W8I/s5ZC5XIuyr8ppG3O0YB3Ffd0Ptmp6GKAmwn8uVm6VdbRDbLvF 52bkyOzJppoU9qWidbEyhI4T83w0gdT7hsbhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=vZp+lrARg/SPkqIVaJW5ZGe6q19aYS3Q9U8E4/VMKaRiG3Ca6TIZ8N1IWB+myGB1YP b7WcXTcCigtDtbywjdGqLvAWSLfBCVuewcvI/yM1cp4+k7jerXar50JlUdpEbnzEMB3p 9p/f32Ad1gTSyE0cEq/qBUi8CKqEiKT/puAnY= Received: by 10.86.221.25 with SMTP id t25mr444857fgg.19.1254345558152; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm24646fga.22.2009.09.30.14.19.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:19:03 -0400 From: CmdLnKid To: chrisa@uvic.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0xFAD8B467 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: D197 8B5A C1BC AD25 33C9 16DF 2C68 DCDE FAD8 B467 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:40 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36 -0000, chrisa wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: >> >>>> My systems work well with hal. I find overall setup to be faster and >>>> smoother(at this point in time) with hal enabled although there is much >>>> adversity to it on this list. >>>> >>>> Do you have xf86-input-mouse installed? >>> >>> I do have it installed. I'm going to try manual configuration to see if >>> I >>> can make it work. >> >> If you can tell what graphics card you have, no doubt someone can >> provide a sample. I can come up with ones for ATI and Intel. > > It's a Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or something. > Built-in to the motherboard. That's what Xorg autodetects, anyway, and it > starts up and shows blackbox. > > I ran Xorg -configure and started it with the result xorg.conf.new, and > that time the screen stayed black throughout. Odd. > >> >>> By the way, you find it faster and smoother with hal enabled? I recall >>> reading an earlier thread about hal where some people found everything >>> slower and less responsive. Interesting. >> >> It turns out that hal plus a "disable hal" option makes things not work. >> The opposite is probably also true. > > Interesting. > > Anyhow, I looked at my Xorg.0.log. I noticed a line saying it can't find > any input devices, and relies upon hal to find them. Then I ran a ps -ax > and found that hal isn't running, even though it should be, being set to > start in rc.conf, along with dbus. So I started it, the startup script > appeared to work, but hald still isn't running. Then I started dbus first, > then hald, and they were both running, restarted X, and suddenly it works. > > I swear both were running last night when the mouse and keyboard input > didn't work. They are, after all, set to start up at boot time. Also, the > most recent Xorg.0.log contains the lines: > > (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. > (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. > (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. > If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable > AllowEmptyInput. > > even though the mouse and keyboard both work now. To make sure that it was > the most recent log file, I deleted all the Xorg logs, restarted it, and > read the most recent one. And it still contains those lines with the > working mouse and keyboard. > > Thanks, all, for your help. Now I only have TWO problems left! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Add the following to your X11 config and see what you come up with. Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Best regards -- - (2^(N-1)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 22:02:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0AD1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0A98FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8UM2Gw4001316 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:02:16 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:02:16 -0700 Message-ID: <302a6d597e448786230d74aa2ccb7502.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:02:16 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.531 AWL,SARE_OEM_SOFT_IS X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:02:21 -0000 > Add the following to your X11 config and see what you come up with. > > Section "ServerFlags" > option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection > > Best regards All right, I did that. Created a new xorg.conf since it's working with the autoconfig now. The mouse and keyboard still work, and Xorg.0.log follows. X.Org X Server 1.6.1 Release Date: 2009-4-14 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD nimue.gv.shawcable.net 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 29 12:51:56 PDT 2009 chrisa@nimue.gv.shawcable.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NODEBUG i386 Build Date: 29 September 2009 09:08:23PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 30 14:56:25 2009 (==) Using config file: "/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "" (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" (**) Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" (**) Not automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (==) |-->Input Device "" (==) |-->Input Device "" (==) No Layout section. Using the default mouse configuration. (==) No Layout section. Using the default keyboard configuration. (II) Loader magic: 0x6a0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter rev 0, Mem @ 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xec000000/131072, I/O @ 0x0000d000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (==) Matched sis for the autoconfigured driver (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout (II) LoadModule: "sis" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sis_drv.so (II) Module sis: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 0.10.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.4.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) SIS: driver for SiS chipsets: SIS5597/5598, SIS530/620, SIS6326/AGP/DVD, SIS300/305, SIS630/730, SIS540, SIS315, SIS315H, SIS315PRO/E, SIS550, SIS650/M650/651/740, SIS330(Xabre), SIS660/[M]661[F|M]X/[M]670/[M]741[GX]/[M]760[GX]/[M]761[GX]/[M]770[GX], SIS340 (II) SIS: driver for XGI chipsets: Volari Z7 (XG20), Volari V3XT/V5/V8/Duo (XG40) (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 (WW) Falling back to old probe method for sis (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset SIS660/[M]661[F|M]X/[M]670/[M]741[GX]/[M]760[GX]/[M]761[GX]/[M]770[GX] found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [4] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [5] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [6] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [8] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [9] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) SIS(0): SiS driver (2005/09/20-1, compiled for X.org 1.6.1.0) (II) SIS(0): Copyright (C) 2001-2005 Thomas Winischhofer and others (II) SIS(0): *** See http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml (II) SIS(0): *** for documentation and updates. (--) SIS(0): sisfb not found (--) SIS(0): Relocated I/O registers at 0xD000 (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (II) SIS(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 (==) SIS(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) SIS(0): RGB weight 888 (==) SIS(0): Default visual is TrueColor (WW) SIS(0): Could not find/read video BIOS (==) SIS(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture (==) SIS(0): Using HW cursor (==) SIS(0): Color HW cursor is enabled (II) SIS(0): Using VRAM command queue, size 512k (==) SIS(0): Hotkey display switching is enabled (II) SIS(0): WARNING: Using the Hotkey might freeze your machine, regardless (II) SIS(0): whether enabled or disabled. This is no driver bug. (==) SIS(0): SiSCtrl utility interface is disabled (II) SIS(0): For information on SiSCtrl, see http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#sisctrl (==) SIS(0): DRI disabled (II) SIS(0): Checking OS for SSE support is not supported in this version of X.org (II) SIS(0): If your OS supports SSE, set the option "UseSSE" to "on". (--) SIS(0): DIMM0 is DDR SDRAM (--) SIS(0): DIMM1 is not installed (--) SIS(0): DIMM2 is not installed (--) SIS(0): DIMM3 is not installed (--) SIS(0): DRAM type: DDR SDRAM (--) SIS(0): Memory clock: 332.892 MHz (--) SIS(0): DRAM bus width: 64 bit (--) SIS(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE0000000 (--) SIS(0): MMIO registers at 0xEC000000 (size 64K) (--) SIS(0): VideoRAM: 32768 KB (II) SIS(0): Using 32192K of framebuffer memory at offset 0K (--) SIS(0): Hardware supports two video overlays (==) SIS(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) SIS(0): Gamma correction is enabled (II) SIS(0): Separate Xv gamma correction is disabled (--) SIS(0): Memory bandwidth at 32 bpp is 665.784 MHz (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (--) SIS(0): CRT1 DDC supported (--) SIS(0): CRT1 DDC level: 2 (--) SIS(0): CRT1 DDC monitor info: ******************************************* (II) SIS(0): Manufacturer: VSC Model: ad1c Serial#: 16843009 (II) SIS(0): Year: 2006 Week: 24 (II) SIS(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) SIS(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V (II) SIS(0): Sync: Separate Composite SyncOnGreen (II) SIS(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 38 vert.: 30 (II) SIS(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) SIS(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display (II) SIS(0): Default color space is primary color space (II) SIS(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) SIS(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.290 greenY: 0.610 (II) SIS(0): blueX: 0.140 blueY: 0.070 whiteX: 0.310 whiteY: 0.330 (II) SIS(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) SIS(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) SIS(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) SIS(0): 640x480@67Hz (II) SIS(0): 640x480@72Hz (II) SIS(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) SIS(0): 800x600@56Hz (II) SIS(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) SIS(0): 800x600@72Hz (II) SIS(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) SIS(0): 832x624@75Hz (II) SIS(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) SIS(0): 1024x768@70Hz (II) SIS(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) SIS(0): 1280x1024@75Hz (II) SIS(0): 1152x870@75Hz (II) SIS(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) SIS(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) SIS(0): #0: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) SIS(0): #1: hsize: 1280 vsize 960 refresh: 60 vid: 16513 (II) SIS(0): #2: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337 (II) SIS(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) SIS(0): clock: 108.0 MHz Image Size: 376 x 301 mm (II) SIS(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0 (II) SIS(0): v_active: 1024 v_sync: 1025 v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0 (II) SIS(0): Serial No: PXU062430354 (II) SIS(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 82 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz (II) SIS(0): Monitor name: VX922 (II) SIS(0): EDID (in hex): (II) SIS(0): 910000000000000000000000c3e8bfbf (II) SIS(0): c2520c08fdffff7f0802ffffc1e8bfbf (II) SIS(0): 4cffff7f000000000110702804000000 (II) SIS(0): 38141d08cbe8bfbfcbe8bfbf38e8bfbf (II) SIS(0): 8d5f0c0844e7bfbf0700000001000000 (II) SIS(0): 90f31a084ce8bfbf00c01f28d4151f28 (II) SIS(0): 0000000048e8bfbf68000000d8e8bfbf (II) SIS(0): 14100f08b1e8bfbf0b921c0808000000 (II) SIS(0): EDID vendor "VSC", prod id 44316 (II) SIS(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) SIS(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh (II) SIS(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (--) SIS(0): According to DDC size, CRT1 aspect ratio is 1.27:1 (normal) (--) SIS(0): End of CRT1 DDC monitor info ************************************* (==) SIS(0): Min pixel clock is 10 MHz (--) SIS(0): Max pixel clock is 400 MHz (II) SIS(0): Replaced default mode list with built-in modes (II) SIS(0): Using fake widescreen modes for CRT1 VGA devices (II) SIS(0): Use option "ForceCRT1VGAAspect" to overrule (II) SIS(0): "Unknown reason" in the following list means that the mode (II) SIS(0): is not supported on the chipset/bridge/current output device. (II) SIS(0): : Using hsync range of 30.00-82.00 kHz (II) SIS(0): : Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz (II) SIS(0): : Using maximum pixel clock of 140.00 MHz (II) SIS(0): Estimated virtual size for aspect ratio 1.2667 is 1280x1024 (II) SIS(0): Clock range: 10.00 to 400.00 MHz (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1024x576" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x720" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x768" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "848x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "856x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1360x768" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (hsync out of range) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1920x1080" (width too large for virtual size) (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "1280x854" (hsync out of range) (--) SIS(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.2 MHz, 80.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.1 135.22 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 107.9 MHz, 63.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x59.9 107.86 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (63.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x960": 107.9 MHz, 59.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x960"x59.9 107.86 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (59.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x854": 135.2 MHz, 80.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x854"x75.1 135.22 1280 1296 1440 1688 854 958 962 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x854": 107.9 MHz, 63.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x854"x59.9 107.86 1280 1328 1440 1688 854 958 962 1066 +hsync +vsync (63.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x800": 135.2 MHz, 80.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x800"x75.1 135.22 1280 1296 1440 1688 800 931 935 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x800": 107.9 MHz, 63.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x800"x59.9 107.86 1280 1328 1440 1688 800 931 935 1066 +hsync +vsync (63.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1152x864": 107.9 MHz, 67.4 kHz, 74.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x74.9 107.86 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.4 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1152x864": 89.9 MHz, 53.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1152x864"x60.0 89.89 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 869 877 892 +hsync +vsync (53.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x768": 135.2 MHz, 80.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x768"x75.1 135.22 1280 1296 1440 1688 768 915 919 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x768": 107.9 MHz, 63.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x768"x59.9 107.86 1280 1328 1440 1688 768 915 919 1066 +hsync +vsync (63.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x720": 135.2 MHz, 80.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x720"x75.1 135.22 1280 1296 1440 1688 720 891 895 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1280x720": 107.9 MHz, 63.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1280x720"x59.9 107.86 1280 1328 1440 1688 720 891 895 1066 +hsync +vsync (63.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 78.7 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 75.2 MHz, 56.6 kHz, 70.2 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.2 75.17 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.6 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 65.1 MHz, 48.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.1 65.15 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x576": 78.7 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x576"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 576 686 690 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x576": 65.1 MHz, 48.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x576"x60.1 65.15 1024 1048 1184 1344 576 688 694 806 +hsync +vsync (48.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "960x600": 41.5 MHz, 37.1 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "960x600"x60.0 41.50 960 1008 1088 1120 600 603 609 618 +hsync +vsync (37.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "960x540": 37.3 MHz, 33.8 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "960x540"x60.0 37.29 960 976 1008 1104 540 543 549 563 +hsync +vsync (33.8 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.52 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x600": 50.1 MHz, 48.2 kHz, 72.4 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.4 50.11 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.2 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 39.97 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x600": 36.1 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.3 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.3 36.06 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "768x576": 35.0 MHz, 35.9 kHz, 60.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "768x576"x60.1 35.00 768 792 872 976 576 578 581 597 +hsync +vsync (35.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "720x576": 32.7 MHz, 35.9 kHz, 60.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "720x576"x60.1 32.73 720 744 816 912 576 578 581 597 +hsync +vsync (35.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "856x480": 33.9 MHz, 31.7 kHz, 59.8 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "856x480"x59.8 33.94 856 872 1000 1072 480 492 495 529 -hsync -vsync (31.7 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "848x480": 33.7 MHz, 31.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "848x480"x60.0 33.75 848 864 976 1088 480 486 494 517 -hsync -vsync (31.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x480": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x480"x75.1 49.52 800 816 896 1056 480 551 554 624 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "800x480": 39.8 MHz, 37.7 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "800x480"x60.0 39.77 800 840 968 1056 480 552 556 628 +hsync +vsync (37.7 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "720x480": 28.3 MHz, 31.6 kHz, 61.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "720x480"x61.0 28.28 720 728 840 896 480 490 492 517 -hsync -vsync (31.6 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 30.2 MHz, 35.0 kHz, 66.7 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "640x480": 25.1 MHz, 31.3 kHz, 59.7 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.7 25.06 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.3 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Driver mode "720x400": 28.3 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "640x400": 25.1 MHz, 31.6 kHz, 71.6 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "640x400"x71.6 25.06 640 656 752 792 400 413 415 442 -hsync +vsync (31.6 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "512x384": 32.6 MHz, 48.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "512x384"x60.1 32.57 512 528 592 672 384 385 388 403 doublescan -hsync -vsync (48.5 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "400x300"x60.3 19.98 400 416 480 528 300 300 302 314 doublescan +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "320x240": 12.5 MHz, 31.3 kHz, 60.7 Hz (D) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "320x240"x60.7 12.53 320 328 376 400 240 245 246 258 doublescan -hsync -vsync (31.3 kHz) (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "320x200": 12.5 MHz, 31.3 kHz, 70.9 Hz (D) (II) SIS(0): Modeline "320x200"x70.9 12.53 320 328 376 400 200 206 207 221 doublescan -hsync +vsync (31.3 kHz) (**) SIS(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm (**) SIS(0): DPI set to (85, 86) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.2.1 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) SIS(0): 2D acceleration enabled (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU) [4] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [5] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [6] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [8] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [9] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) SIS(0): initializing int10 (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (II) SIS(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) SIS(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 32768 kB (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE OEM: SiS (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: (II) SIS(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (II) SIS(0): Setting custom mode 1280x1024 on CRT1 (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (==) SIS(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x2000) was already clear (II) SIS(0): Setting custom mode 1280x1024 on CRT2 (II) SIS(0): RENDER acceleration enabled (II) SIS(0): Framebuffer from (0,0) to (1279,6436) (II) SIS(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles 8x8 color pattern filled rectangles Solid Lines Dashed Lines Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 16 512x512 slots 32 8x8 color pattern slots (II) SIS(0): Benchmarking system RAM to video RAM memory transfer methods: (--) SIS(0): Checked libc memcpy()... 2618027 (--) SIS(0): Checked built-in-1 memcpy()... 2626188 (--) SIS(0): Checked built-in-2 memcpy()... 12990213 (--) SIS(0): Checked MMX memcpy()... 2558736 (--) SIS(0): Checked 3DNow! memcpy()... 2537429 (--) SIS(0): Checked MMX2 memcpy()... 2534901 (--) SIS(0): Using MMX2 method for aligned data transfers to video RAM (--) SIS(0): Using MMX2 method for unaligned data transfers to video RAM (==) SIS(0): Backing store disabled (==) SIS(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) SIS(0): DPMS enabled (II) SIS(0): Using SiS300/315/330/340 series HW Xv (II) SIS(0): Default Xv adaptor is Video Overlay (II) SIS(0): Initialized SISCTRL extension version 0.1 (II) SIS(0): Registered screen 0 with SISCTRL extension version 0.1 (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 (WW) : No Device specified, looking for one... (II) : Setting Device option to "/dev/sysmouse" (--) : Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (==) : Protocol: "Auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) : always reports core events (==) : Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) : ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) : Buttons: 9 (**) : Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "" (type: MOUSE) (**) : (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) : (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00 (**) : (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms (**) : (accel) set acceleration profile 0 (II) : SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) : SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) : always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) : Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) : XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) : XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) : XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) : CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) config/hal: Adding input device USB OpticalWheel Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 22:03:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811141065679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C09EA8FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2009 22:03:04 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 01 Oct 2009 00:03:04 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Nc2tAV8yNn02/PeOTizvt3vFP336WeHFifyGqBS g2pqbxVW1F5+aU Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:00:54 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: chrisa@uvic.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090930220054.GA763@sandcat> References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Cc: Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:03:07 -0000 Maybe start over again installing the ports? There are drivers for the sis chipset, for the case you havent discovered them: /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-sis Also the already mentioned /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse And then reinstall /usr/ports/x11/xorg (with a make config before) I have a similar combination, though using the traditional ps2 mouse.. Cheers herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 22:24:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C01106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from austin.friestman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC668FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so5014468bwz.43 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:24:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HadV2PgPDQfPfKghX+wkbTgw1dCtYCuIwnj45UGUlN8=; b=Km0T6frmmIrCcyRJLMmYyD4vN6MaKUgZ71ivsFZnvkU+QUG01sAkBKPe5RpwBLemDt DxDJpCN3lUHP7xfJafOE+DsHkM0aPcGTFKKDwvA5Aacr8okYIgYMl1ae25SMGHqZQd90 nqNQU5caltbkwXEMGZr1Yo54aujDaSZ70umHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZHCkhECfDZlzCabb2j/eUBn9lZGimkMI6OT30A8YpGv1TfQDe1Px0RJiozFAyrWoKS WdrS/PL8c5NQsLnlnEKauCl1PKAcpoQsBUUT8WNmUpxT9P/0CJFkv1BYxRviXhrw16y6 wP0kBxbMlHHJUrlUpBFZT18+byx64SqgVqgeg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.88 with SMTP id r24mr271498bkw.132.1254347773944; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:56:13 -0500 Message-ID: <96f71bae0909301456w4136b2aao2d3bb5112f42a9ef@mail.gmail.com> From: Austin Friestman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: syslog-ng.conf.sample from port sysutils/syslog-ng3 errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:24:38 -0000 The sample config file for syslog-ng3 does not work. When I install sysutils/syslog-ng3 from ports, the sample config file /usr/local/etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf.sample seems to have a number of things wrong with it. First, the port is looking for it in /usr/local/etc not /usr/local/etc/syslog-ng contrary to what most of the tutorials on it's installation indicate. Once you've moved the file to the right location, this happens [afriestman@monolith /usr/local/etc]$ sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/syslog-ng start Starting syslog_ng. Configuration file has no version number, assuming syslog-ng 2.1 format. Please add @version: maj.min to the beginning of the file; WARNING: global: the default value of chain_hostnames is changing to 'no' in version 3.0, please update your configuration accordingly; Your configuration file uses an obsoleted keyword, please update your configuration; keyword='sync', change='flush_lines' WARNING: input: sources do not remove new-line characters from messages by default in version 3.0, please add 'no-multi-line' flag to your configuration if you want to retain this functionality; WARNING: file source: default value of follow_freq in file sources is changing in 3.0 to '1' for all files except /proc/kmsg; WARNING: template: the default value for template-escape is changing to 'no' in version 3.0, please update your configuration file accordingly; Unknown facility; facility='console' Adding @version3.0 to the first line of the file helps quite a bit [afriestman@monolith /usr/local/etc]$ sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/syslog-ng start Starting syslog_ng. Your configuration file uses an obsoleted keyword, please update your configuration; keyword='sync', change='flush_lines' Unknown facility; facility='console' Changing options { long_hostnames(off); sync(0); }; to options { long_hostnames(off); flush_lines(0); }; takes care of all but that last line. While searching for answers to this problem, I came across http://dbaspot.com/forums/solaris/240478-syslog-ng-warning-unknown-facility-facility-authpriv.html which suggests mapping of the facilities seems to be done in eventlog (which syslog-ng is based on) Neither of the two files in /usr/local/include/eventlog (evtlog.h and evtmaps.h) mention a thing about a console facility However, there is a LOG_CONSOLE definition in /usr/include/syslog.h, which is included in the above evtlog.h. see next line #define LOG_CONSOLE (14<<3) /* /dev/console output */ I feel like I'm close to getting syslog-ng working, I just need a little help now that I'm getting into parts of the system I'm not familiar with. [afriestman@monolith ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD monolith.vertive.local 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 21 16:40:02 CDT 2009 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 22:48:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B179E1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677828FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UMm9qO082109; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:48:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UMm9Z3082106; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:48:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:48:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: CmdLnKid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: chrisa@uvic.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:48:10 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, CmdLnKid wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:36 -0000, chrisa wrote: >> (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. >> (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. >> (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. >> If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable >> AllowEmptyInput. These are normal messages. (II)nformation, not (EE)rror. >> even though the mouse and keyboard both work now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just wanted to emphasize that. >> To make sure that it was the most recent log file, I deleted all the >> Xorg logs, restarted it, and read the most recent one. And it still >> contains those lines with the working mouse and keyboard. > > Add the following to your X11 config and see what you come up with. > > Section "ServerFlags" > option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection Why? Several months ago, these were used to work around bugs. Shortly afterwards, the bugs were fixed. Now the use of those options is causing problems more often than solving them. The time to add those options is when xorg doesn't work without them. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 22:59:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE14106568B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2698FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UMxXaZ082151; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UMxXUb082148; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: chrisa@uvic.ca In-Reply-To: <302a6d597e448786230d74aa2ccb7502.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <302a6d597e448786230d74aa2ccb7502.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:59:35 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: >> Add the following to your X11 config and see what you come up with. >> >> Section "ServerFlags" >> option "AutoAddDevices" "off" >> option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> EndSection >> >> Best regards > > All right, I did that. What are you trying to fix with those entries? > Created a new xorg.conf since it's working with the autoconfig now. And what is in it? > The mouse and keyboard still work, and Xorg.0.log follows. > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) Well, that's broken. Look, there are basically two ways to configure keyboard and mouse for xorg. There's the old way, where you have InputDevice entries for them in xorg.conf. Then there's the new way, where you run hal and let it handle the keyboard and mouse for xorg. No InputDevice sections are needed. For example, here is my xorg.conf from the Acer Aspire One. Note the lack of InputDevice sections and those magic ServerFlags options. Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "AA1 Manually Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Option "DontZap" "Off" Option "AIGLX" "On" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0660 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "LGD" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "intel" VendorName "Intel Corporation" BoardName "Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" Option "Monitor-LVDS" "Monitor0" Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,VGA" Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" Option "CacheLines" "1980" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Virtual 1024 600 EndSubSection EndSection -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 23:08:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524BE1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337B8FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8UN85Zx082183; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:08:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8UN85He082180; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:08:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:08:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: herbert langhans In-Reply-To: <20090930220054.GA763@sandcat> Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930220054.GA763@sandcat> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Cc: chrisa@uvic.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:08:06 -0000 On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, herbert langhans wrote: > Maybe start over again installing the ports? There are drivers for the > sis chipset, for the case you havent discovered them: > /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-sis Please quote a little context to identify the problem. It's usually not necessary to throw out all the ports, or all the xorg ports. If hal support is missing in xorg-server, just rebuilding xorg-server with the correct config should be enough. > Also the already mentioned /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse > > And then reinstall /usr/ports/x11/xorg (with a make config before) If necessary (usually not), it won't help unless you cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make rmconfig-recursive make config-recursive And then rebuild, deinstall, and reinstall the appropriate ports. xorg-server for sure, maybe others. But I would ask again: what, exactly, is the problem to be solved? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 23:29:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA9B106566B for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0DE8FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C511B1CCDD; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:29:36 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4BK3-ij27EKc; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:29:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (60-242-46-148.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.46.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A04B91CC23; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:29:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4AC3E9DF.7020709@sucked-in.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:29:35 +1000 From: Terry Sposato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A9DB69C.4080506@sucked-in.com> <4AC36E2D.5090306@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4AC36E2D.5090306@intersonic.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: devel/pear port build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:29:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Hi, > > Did you work this one out? I am caught with the same problem albeit > with 1.9.0. > > Thanks, > > -- per > > Terry Sposato wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am having trouble building the devel/pear port. I have tried >> the following, rebuild all dependant ports (all of php etc.) - >> Extracted new ports tree, used portmaster, always returns the >> same error: >> >> [got][/usr/ports/devel/pear]# make install clean ===> Installing >> for pear-1.8.1 ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: >> /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> pear-1.8.1 >> depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found ===> >> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - >> found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if >> devel/pear already installed >> >> Bootstrapping Installer................... Using previously >> install ... ok >> >> Extracting installer.................. Using previously installed >> installer ... ok >> >> Preparing installer.................. Updating channel >> "doc.php.net" Channel "doc.php.net" is up to date Updating >> channel "pear.php.net" Channel "pear.php.net" is up to date >> Updating channel "pecl.php.net" Channel "pecl.php.net" is up to >> date >> >> Installing selected packages.................. Package: >> PEAR-stable.............................. already installed ... >> ok Package: Structures_Graph-stable.................. already >> installed ... ok Package: >> Archive_Tar-stable....................... already installed ... >> ok Package: Console_Getopt-stable.................... already >> installed ... ok *** Signal 11 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. >> >> Anyone have this issue? >> >> Please reply to me directly as I am currently not on the list. >> >> Regards, >> >> Terry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, I still haven't resolved this issue. There are some people on the freebsd forums which are having the issue as well, no fix yet as far as i can tell. Regards, Terry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkrD6d8ACgkQggJ6ImaGmQp57wCfX9jqcCzi0UgjLmtqVbkAkQ2C 4e0An2W+1In+WL0vtzQjL7hqXq7uo2Uk =qPzr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 01:16:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4B106568B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993998FC12 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2E33A3872; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:16:50 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254359810; x= 1256174210; bh=ARZaaXztSNgeH+oo8YcUQ+hF+EdJIbdL8jJO33nHa3U=; b=m rjZkt/samSw6TcIRaN5zckw88kpNYbsFrNfepBqNCYVLLnHbh/DUFpZZEu5/eH4K 4LdUMg5bDGjD958dgFnQaX0zBFXT3qSb2GoaIn+czdZZQjnqUPrVZcBasrzMqiND Egwv3rldKT/OFcBuYE6BlUc1plMEDrb/F24DauDvYA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id W9XxZTmsyJF6; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:16:50 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 961683A3839; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:16:49 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n911Gmk2024725; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:16:48 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:16:48 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910010116.n911Gmk2024725@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: gpeel@thenetnow.com In-reply-to: (gpeel@thenetnow.com) References: <6201873e0909300607u7bdbe45aw91972f253299e853@mail.gmail.com> Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:16:56 -0000 Hi, > All of the 200 domains on each server have thier own Real Unix user > (obviously). Once the NAS is setup, (using NFS), how do the permissions on > the NAS machine play out? i.e. when user 'hisname' logs into a server via > ftp, and uploads a file to his home directory (which is on the NAS), will > the file permissions be the same, and will 'hisname' own the file exactly > the same as if he were writing to the local (server) disk? That is expected, else something bad would exists in the configuration of the NAS. > In the NAS > exports do I have to map every user to the NFS or can I just maproot? Maproot is the easiest as it gives complete access to the NFS exported directory. Now you may consider that for security reason, users of client-machine 1 should only be allowed to NFS mount their own home directory. In that case, you may need the users of client-machine 1 to exist on client-machine 1 and on the server, etc for machine 2... Actually I never had this case when a user account only exists on an NFS client but not on the NFS server, so I am not too sure. I guess that user ID of the users should be different on every client system. You may consider an LDAP directory for your users, where the server would see all the users, but each client-machine would see only the users belonging to it (I thing that there is an "host" attributes, so client-1 only sees the users with host=client-1). Good luck, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 02:22:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D80106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisa@uvic.ca) Received: from camel.comp.uvic.ca (camel.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.148.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2556C8FC0A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wm3.uvic.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by camel.comp.uvic.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n912MJpL004331 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:22:20 -0700 Received: from 142.104.193.193 (proxying for 70.69.37.215) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chrisa) by wm3.uvic.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:22:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3bf2b136bc8e50cbd7eca54e09db6930.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <302a6d597e448786230d74aa2ccb7502.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:22:20 -0700 From: chrisa@uvic.ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.045 AWL X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 142.104.148.254 Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:22:21 -0000 > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: > >>> Add the following to your X11 config and see what you come up with. >>> >>> Section "ServerFlags" >>> option "AutoAddDevices" "off" >>> option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Best regards >> >> All right, I did that. > > What are you trying to fix with those entries? Nothing. I was just doing it to see what happens. > >> Created a new xorg.conf since it's working with the autoconfig now. > > And what is in it? Only this: Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection and nothing else. > >> The mouse and keyboard still work, and Xorg.0.log follows. > >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) >> (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard >> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) > > Well, that's broken. Look, there are basically two ways to configure > keyboard and mouse for xorg. There's the old way, where you have > InputDevice entries for them in xorg.conf. > > Then there's the new way, where you run hal and let it handle the > keyboard and mouse for xorg. No InputDevice sections are needed. For > example, here is my xorg.conf from the Acer Aspire One. Note the lack > of InputDevice sections and those magic ServerFlags options. It does indeed appear broken. The keyboard and mouse still work, though, which doesn't make any sense to me. I don't have any InputDevice sections, as you can see, so if hal isn't configuring the keyboard and mouse, what is? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 06:03:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39824106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C051D8FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9163N1h046102; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:03:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n9163N1h046102 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1254377004; bh=mqo1AsIFGWnfBEJZ8LOJJJMbgz1UYQTun1viFWojMSk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AC44625.6010909@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2001=20Oct=202009=2007:03:17=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20David=20Southwell=20|CC:=20 'Frank=20Steinborn'=20,=20freebsd-questions@free bsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20restore=20Base_Bind=20on=20amd 64=207.2=20p3|References:=20<4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru><20090929184641.GA17580@haydn. nognu.de>=09<1B6DC3865C3A46D0A1863A674C6CEAA4@sleuth64>=20<6D413C5 4678B485E90645DF432C705E8@sleuth64>|In-Reply-To:=20<6D413C54678B48 5E90645DF432C705E8@sleuth64>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content- Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20proto col=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"--------- ---enig87A470F77991DB1E87CF124B"; b=n7FTA4mxvgaioeEmScv+WIDqDg9ihx+Ps4lT+8rmDeuHDhsLONPmYOxKq4nklUgkp 7hupA5stQ2ArlJe4ScXfSniegqwn7E0s9EMUbGID5OiDSZudKaVPVli0GvohgtnC7g b1l2Z1tCypI0Jhsk+R+/3zLNSTejh7xlC7kp+Q10= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AC44625.6010909@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:03:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Southwell References: <4AC1E6EC.3080805@rumonitor.ru><20090929184641.GA17580@haydn.nognu.de> <1B6DC3865C3A46D0A1863A674C6CEAA4@sleuth64> <6D413C54678B485E90645DF432C705E8@sleuth64> In-Reply-To: <6D413C54678B485E90645DF432C705E8@sleuth64> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87A470F77991DB1E87CF124B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Frank Steinborn' Subject: Re: How to restore Base_Bind on amd64 7.2 p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:03:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig87A470F77991DB1E87CF124B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Southwell wrote: >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Frank=20 >>> Steinborn >>> You should be able to restore the bind from base by using the=20 >>> install.sh script in /usr/src/contrib/bind9. Deinstall the=20 >> port first,=20 >>> though. >>> >> ThanksI deinstalled the port and tried to run install-sh=20 >> >> # sh install-sh >> and got the response: >>> install: no input file specified >> Any chance you might make me a little wiser on how to use install-sh?\= This advice -- to run install-sh -- is incorrect. install-sh there=20 is straight from the bind distribution and assumes you're building it as a separate piece of software, rather than integrated with the rest of the system sources. To reinstall bind from the FreeBSD source tree: * Check /etc/src.conf, /etc/make.conf and ensure that there are no WITHOUT_BIND or WITHOUT_BIND_NAMED or other relevant flags set=20 * Simplest thing to do is then run through a buildworld cycle. This takes a while and uses some CPU power but it's largely fire-ans-for= get. Instructions are here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makew= orld.html * If you're really in a hurry, then you can rebuild just bind etc. but this is less certain than the above. The following is extracte= d from http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:12.bind.a= sc # cd /usr/src/lib/bind # make obj && make depend && make && make install # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/named # make obj && make depend && make && make install # /etc/rc.d/named restart =20 As the previous correspondent said, deinstall the port before doing this.= You should not need to recompile any other software because of this chang= e -- the shlibs generated should be interchangeable -- but you will need to= reboot to make sure that all the running processes are using the correct version of the resolver functions rather than a memory mapped copy of the= old shlibs even after the actual file was deleted and overwritten. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig87A470F77991DB1E87CF124B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrERisACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxR3gCfefUaPoV6DdzDOPFBB5hUMiDM j/wAn16AVzEEcrcTulWC74V6d6/xnMH2 =zUE+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87A470F77991DB1E87CF124B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 07:35:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25719106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DC58FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2583063fxm.36 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=duVeDBW9ZlZaRc3WdwuXf/ruXig+tNvlP/vVw31qyy4=; b=ZLuoNtS9rd/3Blb8x/87RtHZQBa6Kdf/dgJ5cM7fZPWwqPk/sk0iNXXqMdwSAv3qnb oDGGwDn/MrqYzSWMlU9jXXYizzx4XR5zUY2dDvxyAqF1wlvNrzbCZnVFPzYGEYY9p7Jm dGNYwoQHd9CrulqHwmFVHpOMs3ul0nvpIcsqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uaL7NUpYbSyAGuFEjovMo4RhIyRRkt7nmzG2gkqDgOyRob5V+X+W3nugIm/5BxE4WR i5HXLin4tCF7LGAqQGq7dXuxtd76NSXMP8znoR7Jl2K4suTc1Uoklyq8Wd0eYAGu8vBn wZaAnmRb5pe/cLogmM4eB0F5MVnT2mN7HFI/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.80.23 with SMTP id h23mr290113mul.88.1254382506658; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:35:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC3D20C.6070803@infosec.pl> References: <4AC3D20C.6070803@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:35:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750910010035scaf8e73s12ff235dd5245a06@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Michal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis interface doesn't show up (intel 5300) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:35:08 -0000 On 9/30/09, Michal wrote: > Hello, > > I'm struggling to get Intel 5300 wireless mini pci-e card working on > FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 (amd64, both GENERIC and my custom kernel). Try i386. amd64 doesnt work for me, panic on kldload. > I get no error messages. Kernel module builds and loads fine but then > ndis interface never shows up. > > Here is exactly what I'm doing: > Drivers for XP64 downloaded from intel website. I've tried latest and > old drivers. Unzipped on FreeBSD. > Then: > ndisgen NETw5x64.inf NETw5x64.sys > This .INF file appears to be ASCII. [return] > This .SYS file appears to be in Windows(r) PE format. [return] > Driver file conversion - conversion was successful. [enter] > Firmware file conversion [enter] > Kernel module generation > Generating Makefile... done. > Building kernel module... done. > Cleaning up... done. > > So NETw5x64_sys.ko has been successfully generated. Note that when it > asks me for additional firmware files I don't give it any - is that ok? Depends. Look what are other files. > Then I'm moving this module to /boot/modules and I'm loading it: > kldload -v NETw5x64_sys.ko > Loaded NETw5x64_sys.ko, id=8 > > And that's pretty much it, module get loaded together with nids.ko and > if_nids.ko but nothing really happens. No additional network interfaces, > nothing in dmesg output. Tried with debug.ndis=1 and get no additional > informations. > > Any ideas, please? Anybody got this card to work on FreeBSD? > > Michal > -- > "The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 07:58:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9F7106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFFD8FC14 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F3654236 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.4 (20090625) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jgEqx9fKorB3 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D84054161 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:37 +0200 (CEST) From: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:58:36 +0200 Message-Id: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:58:39 -0000 Hello, I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 Works quite well. As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was =20 wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these =20= figures: last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, =20 0.05=20 = up=20 19+08:36:23 09:53:38 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M Free Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to 14%) =20= and there is not much memory left. Let me know what you think about these figures. Thanks. =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 08:38:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC641065672 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC438FC1B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtHBU-0003xO-G5; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:38:50 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MtHBU-0001CX-0y; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:38:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n918ch8B051401; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:38:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n918chqn051400; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:38:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:38:43 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: cpghost Message-ID: <20091001083843.GC51344@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090930163640.GA45422@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090930204503.GA3865@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930204503.GA3865@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer: X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:38:51 -0000 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:45:03PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:36:40PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I've installed port multimedia/mplayer (mplayer-0.99.11_14) > > on 9.0-current ia64. > > > > Trying to play an mpeg video I get endless stream of > > > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > V: 7.6 190/190 17% 82% 0.0% 0 0 > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) > > This usually happens when X doesn't have enough resources to > allocate to direct viewing with the xv (XView) driver. This > is very often related to DRM/DRI or memory problems. > > As a work around, try playing the video with the x11 driver > instead: > > $ mplayer -vo x11 somefile.avi yes, this works ok, many thanks I can even view an animation from a remote machine, via ssh -X, but shower, of course. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 08:45:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D1F106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 286398FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.64?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:45:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4AC47A13.5010504@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:44:51 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul B Mahol References: <4AC3D20C.6070803@infosec.pl> <3a142e750910010035scaf8e73s12ff235dd5245a06@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750910010035scaf8e73s12ff235dd5245a06@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis interface doesn't show up (intel 5300) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:45:49 -0000 Paul B Mahol wrote: >> I'm struggling to get Intel 5300 wireless mini pci-e card working on >> FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 (amd64, both GENERIC and my custom kernel). > > Try i386. amd64 doesnt work for me, panic on kldload. > Ok I'll try it tonight. Is your card working fine on i386? And is it Intel WiFi Link 5300 or some other card? >> So NETw5x64_sys.ko has been successfully generated. Note that when it >> asks me for additional firmware files I don't give it any - is that ok? > > Depends. Look what are other files. > That's the problem, I'm looking at them but I can't really tell the difference. List of files: NETw2c32.dll NETw2r32.dll NETw5c32.dll NETw5r32.dll NETw5x32.cat NETw5x32.inf NETw5x32.sys dpinst32.exe iProDifX.dll iProDifX.exe w29n50.sys w29n51.INF w29n51.cat w29n51.sys Cheers. Michal -- "By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." -Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 10:58:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01247106568F; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6568FC17; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtJMe-0006zB-7r; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:58:24 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9746FB84D; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:58:23 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5E81B849; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:58:23 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:58:23 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20091001105823.GE50565@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de, Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:58:27 -0000 * Albert Shih (Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) wrote: > Thanks for Dmitry for this ports. I'm going to keep this thing somewhere No need to, if it works fine and there are no objections for it, I'll commit it to the tree. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 11:14:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F96106566B; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E623F8FC0A; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtJc1-0007km-LL; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:14:17 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C397B84D; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:14:17 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FD37B849; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:14:17 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:14:17 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:14:20 -0000 * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: > As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the > developer threatened us with a lawsuit. This repeats what he has > previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions. > This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these > platforms. > > Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels > the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too > much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute. Well we can set RESTRICTED if that's a problem, then we will not be distributing anything. I can mirror a distfile under my personal responsibility. Actually I think that the weirdnesses of an author should not be a reason against using useful software or making it available for use by other people, if there's no real legal threat. They may be a cause for stagnation/death of a project, but that's another story. As another argument, Debian and Ubuntu haven't ever removed packages for ion3, just making a user agree with that the software may be obsolete and unsupported. I believe they know what they're doing. But I'll still mail ahze (who removed the port) and adamw (who maintained it last). -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 11:39:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B2C106568F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056708FC0A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F17EEBC0A; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:39:19 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: bsd Message-Id: <20091001073919.9e05d056.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> References: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:39:48 -0000 bsd wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 > Works quite well. > > As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was > wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these > figures: > > > last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, > 0.05 > up > 19+08:36:23 09:53:38 > 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle > Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M Free > Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse > > > Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to 14%) > and there is not much memory left. Looks like the server would run more smoothly with a bit more RAM. At least an additional 256M, I would think, but considering the price of RAM, you might as well just up it to 2G. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 11:23:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413FA1065670; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.ipv6.droso.net [IPv6:2001:6c8:6:c:20d:56ff:fe6f:f935]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27D38FC2A; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26A271CC38; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:23:24 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MvEh5MSbieV/1Yst" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:47:18 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , ion-general@lists.berlios.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Albert Shih Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:23:26 -0000 --MvEh5MSbieV/1Yst Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 03:14:17PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: >=20 > > As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the > > developer threatened us with a lawsuit. This repeats what he has > > previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions. > > This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these > > platforms. > > > > Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels > > the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too > > much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute. >=20 > Well we can set RESTRICTED if that's a problem, then we will not be > distributing anything. I can mirror a distfile under my personal > responsibility. The license forbids this software to be in the tree, so with my portmgr hat on I ask you not to add this to the tree again. >=20 > Actually I think that the weirdnesses of an author should not be a > reason against using useful software or making it available for use Such is the legal system, and we are at the authors whim. -erwin > by other people, if there's no real legal threat. They may be a cause > for stagnation/death of a project, but that's another story. > As another argument, Debian and Ubuntu haven't ever removed packages > for ion3, just making a user agree with that the software may be > obsolete and unsupported. I believe they know what they're doing. >=20 > But I'll still mail ahze (who removed the port) and adamw (who > maintained it last). >=20 > --=20 > Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D > amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Erwin Lansing http://droso.org Prediction is very difficult especially about the future erwin@FreeBSD.org --MvEh5MSbieV/1Yst Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFKxJErqy9aWxUlaZARAuekAJ4p9EZ569G6KfWnjEClXCmTOehkEgCdEwgC eNGDMVu+olaarva6tPdsor0= =aHV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MvEh5MSbieV/1Yst-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 11:45:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A590D106566B; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBAD8FC16; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtK6U-0000lN-Be; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:45:46 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94C7B84D; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:45:45 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 19B62B849; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:45:46 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:45:46 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Erwin Lansing Message-ID: <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:56:29 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , ion-general@lists.berlios.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Albert Shih Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:45:47 -0000 * Erwin Lansing (erwin@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > The license forbids this software to be in the tree, so with my portmgr > hat on I ask you not to add this to the tree again. It no longer does: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2009-September/002520.html Now it's LGPLv2.1 with the only restriction that this software may not be significantly changed while being distributed as ion3. We do not significantly change it, only paches affect the build system, they are required to build (and are expected by the author judging by comments in system.mk), and are not visible for a user. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 13:41:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5135106568D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:41:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F32E8FC0A for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n91Dfaa3037415; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:41:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n91DfaS6037414; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:41:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:41:36 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: bsd Message-ID: <20091001134136.GC37268@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:41:41 -0000 On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:58:36AM +0200, bsd wrote: > Hello, > > I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 > Works quite well. > > As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was > wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these > figures: > > > last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, > 0.05 > up 19+08:36:23 09:53:38 > 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle > Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M Free > Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse > > > Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to 14%) > and there is not much memory left. > > Let me know what you think about these figures. > Unless something else is going on or you are running some commercial server that gets huge amounts of traffic, you should have no capacity problem with this setup. You might want to upgrade to a more recent FreeBSD. ////jerry > > Thanks. > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD > bsd @at@ todoo.biz > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing > this e-mail" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 13:59:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2DF1065692 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422EF8FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B5A34D417 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:59:38 +0100 (BST) From: To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:59:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpCn1t8OKiNO005T2iwiGpa5BJ5rw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Subject: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:59:42 -0000 Hi What is the simplest way to found out which port installs specific harder or library files? ATM I do it through a google search on the file name and usually find a clue.. but I suspect there ia better mousetrap!! Thanks in advance David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 13:21:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9A41065696 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF53C8FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 77781 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2009 13:21:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254403317; bh=AeKvDftHhQXe5zDBX65hd4wMCMnGLB+7f0FTsGyOIPc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Uszxpst78dlCTUHUpirdcivbOeBLBmxGq+tf3fp+LR8HkBpRwzaJUqp9sXvLSVoQEWWhMxJGdxsphn57xtE2HxXMOdPS+BMkz8Tr3VHVLJHGcOMstB/DR6YECE/VdHbkD9KEYWDUH7a1d98uPI0OPGvvSybqx/e7+vC3Yg3snG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TMqISjE/pj8q0hghgRUsNKWLRvktpTPbe7EB1xlK10of9+tUWz3mlEoAU9B+8/D2kdum+RGtEjQjil3m8ZdxRYwXSmv09SJRs4wuBLHXNje4iPLTVGiuMvrn+J+BeeBpSBAqnuMxlaNtOp974/J3MwjsTwxmgB/SXRSua4IkAYg=; Message-ID: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3pTs.P4VM1nkpmVI_FkINFc0ObXlj0_fLxk7LU7Rv2f9eUZrdhN9EnheBRKisXO2IMAZzcD3eRLv9m7wn76Fe37itQ0Zb4S2y8r6qg_LcZnkHbh7pCzFKj.TrrxobTVQEfxYXBOGeVBFC.jn9hSOPK88lBeOSqT_bsZgfxvNYM6AAoPsHFSQrOazZfA3hC01ojs_WBzdnCJZXlcBDwd2.DCnC3JA0LuyKq933yynSIJFTHP9RTYrTa_lxrfyXw5QG9lvZEBo0Avz259hBoJ9sCpDbunRpI8rHtK4A3tqHOh7ZM.9CBtfIIc4ABwV771qQM1KumhupOnamP2y6.sHA2ZjtuvbUhfvf4z02ympuyDeZr3qEoXWayQ- Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:21:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 06:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:00:50 +0000 Subject: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:21:59 -0000 Can someone point me to what software I need to install in order to provide a usenet service for internal users? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:04:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE2D1065672 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D798FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so151928yxe.3 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KhTq5D+jwJlTv2oAl06XWd32wqC3Mp1QjoqxxzA3KOw=; b=Ka+m4jzrIU0U1VRRCkeQk2il7RrsbHCLEO2HcPWq8G/30el0UDgyx0WSal/ASRPAKn DCYj7qi9s+bOvQIu5L+UgtrU/HFKj61R+jPQkm9t8u0Vc3PkrZxRbULpwqTFTIqg/P9f g04XxFqmfy3B+kpSj/gnQI0T0hPC7b0y4xE3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xy/WPXpff5+fTiUVjdPdwV05thNcKo6frCtyXnuZo9rXo2FPqdi+cEsu8qSK2WtciB +OQklsbBCjnjsoo8r/rhHN15PIFgVFVpmycaTEZXLrQrz1cupHfZT9K7Q75cmYd410F5 3SxDVDH/UyO964fIBn6EXCGybAJo8psF5GfCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.254.19 with SMTP id b19mr2394217ybi.6.1254405868409; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:04:28 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910010704v9f1fae0oee30acda5b19f0d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:04:29 -0000 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Can someone point me to what software I need to install in order to provide > a usenet service for internal users? > > Thanks > > You mean like this? > cat /usr/ports/mail/mailman/pkg-descr Paraphrasing the website: Mailman is a mailing list manager (MLM); that is, software to help manage email discussion lists, much like Majordomo, LISTSERV, and the like. Unlike most similar products, Mailman gives each mailing list a web page and allows users to subscribe, unsubscribe, and change their preferences via the web. Even a list manager can administer his or her list(s) entirely via the web. Mailman integrates many common MLM features, including web-based archiving (though it also has hooks for external archivers), mail-to-news gateways, bounce handling, spam prevention, Majordomo-style email-based list administration, direct SMTP delivery (with fast bulk mailing), digest delivery, virtual domain support, and more. Mailman is written mostly in Python (with a smattering of C where necessary for security purposes), and includes hooks to make it easily scriptable and extensible. It is compatible with most web servers and browsers, and most mail transfer agents (mail servers). Mailman's documentation may be found on its website. Author: Barry Warsaw and the Mailman Cabal WWW: http://www.list.org/ -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:04:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3102110656A6 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30F08FC16 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so141066bwz.43 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=z1CG4wExoDoO9hALDQIh1KJ4/rhZz+DkBqiEXtZgss4=; b=buJ78U6Cmlcg0wHeBHbKxZ6wbe1KzfAV8JBJ+bZoU0M+kT+/alDroqCcwJfX07msa3 Fbl1L70XlDCYWM3AkyS2nJrv84rQD61qySd4z0j29fJTPJmMb5db4j9BVuGv/FMhzTMG EF9YTn+VHV7VW53HNASCT69gIuaHmxreDewNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=OzqngVrRPKrAOf5X8e54OFKynOrf3SrS+kzh/qEv7CY0Chg1pPqZCIrWKTfscz/3k4 yTGg6yHfFsPzraXpP7alMOJd50f0O3cjVttJYm+I96v6JDkxdAE5it6DiJMzPzIWW0gp hf8+OPOMqneDFHZ82yf6UMTp5mNy5ggV8xuKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.85 with SMTP id m21mr18778bkx.175.1254405883332; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:04:19 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:04:45 -0000 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Can someone point me to what software I need to install in order to provide > a usenet service for internal users? cd /usr/ports make search key=usenet -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:06:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78FE1065672 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak@kolybabi.com) Received: from mail.nepharia.org (mail.nepharia.org [209.44.104.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933238FC26 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb0805w-ad05-96-205.dynamic.mts.net [74.216.96.205]) by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 653B53F203A; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:06:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) mak@kolybabi.com; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:07:24 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: david@vizion2000.net Message-ID: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:06:58 -0000 On 2009-10-01 06:59, david@vizion2000.net wrote: > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs specific harder or > library files? pkg_info has a --which flag that tells you what package a file came from: % pkg_info --which /usr/local/include/pcre.h /usr/local/include/pcre.h was installed by package pcre-7.9 -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:08:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21B2106568D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914638FC1E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MtMKH-00067J-40; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:08:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BB03556AF2; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AC4B7C9.7040104@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:08:09 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: david@vizion2000.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:08:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 david@vizion2000.net wrote: > Hi > > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs specific harder or > library files? > > ATM I do it through a google search on the file name and usually find a > clue.. but I suspect there ia better mousetrap!! > > Thanks in advance > David > Hi David, pkg_which will do what you want: # pkg_which /usr/local/include/librsync.h [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 289 packages found (-1 +1) (...). done] librsync-0.9.7_1 # Cheers, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. 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Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFKxLfI0sRouByUApARAoBAAJ4k8Ypua7VjFNPk19CnGr1EKrpz8ACglQQm UVP8gTXBr15nr6DPt95pT+c= =+ij6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:12:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015B11065676 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03D38FC1E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28055 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2009 14:12:58 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Oct 2009 14:12:58 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 730E9508BE; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:12:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:12:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> (Odhiambo Washington's message of "Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:04:19 +0300") Message-ID: <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:12:59 -0000 Odhiambo Washington writes: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > >> Can someone point me to what software I need to install in order to provide >> a usenet service for internal users? > > > > cd /usr/ports > make search key=usenet Or better yet, "nntp". I think cnews is still the standard server software, but there are a bunch of alternatives that might be easier for a small installation. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:41:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F07E1065672 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A568FC19 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n91EfaRa085314; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:41:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n91EfZNw085311; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:41:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:41:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: chrisa@uvic.ca In-Reply-To: <3bf2b136bc8e50cbd7eca54e09db6930.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> Message-ID: References: <1b3000aab88ea400a8a60a56aea835c5.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <20090930073601.GA824@sandcat> <6900371da03b4f476e7ff154adb9e12a.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <6201873e0909301220u3cfea5a2n59a576ca6d9d1009@mail.gmail.com> <340fe87c23ba55b89024231e59dad7f1.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <302a6d597e448786230d74aa2ccb7502.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> <3bf2b136bc8e50cbd7eca54e09db6930.squirrel@wm3.uvic.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:41:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with hal in freebsd 7.2 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:41:37 -0000 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, chrisa@uvic.ca wrote: >>> Created a new xorg.conf since it's working with the autoconfig now. >> >> And what is in it? > > Only this: > > Section "ServerFlags" > option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection > > and nothing else. > It does indeed appear broken. The keyboard and mouse still work, though, > which doesn't make any sense to me. I don't have any InputDevice sections, > as you can see, so if hal isn't configuring the keyboard and mouse, what > is? X, just like it's doing for the monitor and video card. Those two lines pretty much say "ignore hal and use the standard keyboard and mouse drivers". -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234CD1065670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D564E8FC13 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DDC34D417; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:49:53 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: References: <4AC4B7C9.7040104@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1534FEAD709A421F9478376D43DFA189@sleuth64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpCoLHhAtce5/7ERV6ST9FNQxXX/QABZ1Ww In-Reply-To: <4AC4B7C9.7040104@FreeBSD.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:49:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Greg Larkin > Sent: 01 October 2009 07:08 > To: david@vizion2000.net > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > david@vizion2000.net wrote: > > Hi > > > > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs specific > > harder or library files? > > > > ATM I do it through a google search on the file name and > usually find > > a clue.. but I suspect there ia better mousetrap!! > > > > Thanks in advance > > David > > > > Hi David, > > pkg_which will do what you want: > > # pkg_which /usr/local/include/librsync.h [Updating the pkgdb > in /var/db/pkg ... - 289 packages found > (-1 +1) (...). done] > librsync-0.9.7_1 > # > > Cheers, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin Thanks Greg U R on the ball as usual! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:50:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD98106568F for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48858FC24 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0103034D446; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:50:50 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: "'Mak Kolybabi'" References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:50:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpCoIzsk9UkE2kQQnSiRTHbkQR9lgABdzXQ In-Reply-To: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:50:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mak Kolybabi > Sent: 01 October 2009 07:07 > To: david@vizion2000.net > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files > > On 2009-10-01 06:59, david@vizion2000.net wrote: > > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs specific > > harder or library files? > > pkg_info has a --which flag that tells you what package a > file came from: > % pkg_info --which /usr/local/include/pcre.h > /usr/local/include/pcre.h was installed by package pcre-7.9 > > -- > Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) > Thanks Mat Now I have two solutions for the price of one question Brill!! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 14:53:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80921065676 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56398FC14 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12DF34D446; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:53:38 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: "'David Southwell'" , "'Mak Kolybabi'" References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> <4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:53:14 -0700 Message-ID: <529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpCoIzsk9UkE2kQQnSiRTHbkQR9lgABdzXQAAAVyHA= In-Reply-To: <4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:53:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > David Southwell > Sent: 01 October 2009 07:50 > To: 'Mak Kolybabi' > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Mak Kolybabi > > Sent: 01 October 2009 07:07 > > To: david@vizion2000.net > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files > > > > On 2009-10-01 06:59, david@vizion2000.net wrote: > > > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs > specific > > > harder or library files? > > > > pkg_info has a --which flag that tells you what package a file came > > from: > > % pkg_info --which /usr/local/include/pcre.h > /usr/local/include/pcre.h > > was installed by package pcre-7.9 > > > > -- > > Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) > > > Thanks Mat > > Now I have two solutions for the price of one question > > Brill!! OK One problem How about ports that are not installed? Is there another route that will deal with stuff not on the system? David > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 15:00:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B8910656C1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023F88FC27 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 11:00:23 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFG70461; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2009 11:00:18 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19140.50178.53068.254287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:00:18 -0400 To: "David Southwell" In-Reply-To: <529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> <4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64> <529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: 'Mak Kolybabi' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:00:25 -0000 David Southwell writes: > One problem > > How about ports that are not installed? > > Is there another route that will deal with stuff not on the system? I'm not quite sure what you're asking here; perhaps you could give a scenario? The above methods only work for things that are properly installed/registered with the ports(/packages) system. If you've installed something not from a port ... you're on your own. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 15:43:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3589D106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC138FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n91FhlrO013957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:43:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n91FhliE038159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:43:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n91FhjPp038158; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:43:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:43:45 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20091001154345.GN29215@dan.emsphone.com> References: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> <20091001073919.9e05d056.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001073919.9e05d056.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:43:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:43:51 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 01), Bill Moran said: > bsd wrote: > > I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 > > Works quite well. > > > > As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was > > wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these > > figures: > > > > last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, 0.05 up 19+08:36:23 09:53:38 > > 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping > > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle > > Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M Free > > Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse > > > > Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to 14%) > > and there is not much memory left. > > Looks like the server would run more smoothly with a bit more RAM. At > least an additional 256M, I would think, but considering the price of RAM, > you might as well just up it to 2G. The amount of used swap is much less important than whether you are actively swapping (if there are In/Out values on the Swap line in top, or if "vmstat 1" shows nonzero values in the pi/po columns). 160MB of used swap is fine if it's just unused daemons (getty, idle webserver, etc). More memory can never hurt, but it doesn't seem like it's urgently needed here. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 15:58:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6B11065695 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4FF8FC1B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA97CEBC0A; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:58:23 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20091001115823.0891f9e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20091001154345.GN29215@dan.emsphone.com> References: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> <20091001073919.9e05d056.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091001154345.GN29215@dan.emsphone.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:58:24 -0000 In response to Dan Nelson : > In the last episode (Oct 01), Bill Moran said: > > bsd wrote: > > > I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 > > > Works quite well. > > > > > > As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was > > > wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these > > > figures: > > > > > > last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, 0.05 up 19+08:36:23 09:53:38 > > > 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping > > > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle > > > Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M Free > > > Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse > > > > > > Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to 14%) > > > and there is not much memory left. > > > > Looks like the server would run more smoothly with a bit more RAM. At > > least an additional 256M, I would think, but considering the price of RAM, > > you might as well just up it to 2G. > > The amount of used swap is much less important than whether you are actively > swapping (if there are In/Out values on the Swap line in top, or if "vmstat > 1" shows nonzero values in the pi/po columns). 160MB of used swap is fine > if it's just unused daemons (getty, idle webserver, etc). More memory can > never hurt, but it doesn't seem like it's urgently needed here. I don't know about that, Dan. Especially considering it's a mail server he's talking about, there's no RAM left for disk cache on that machine. We've seen performance gains on our mail server by putting obscene amounts of RAM into it. After a bit of use, FreeBSD ends up having 6.5G of inactive RAM, which I assume is cache of mailboxes. The result is that while watching gstat, the amount of disk reads is very low (since a lot of data is already in RAM) and the IO is available to do fast writes when new mail comes in. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 16:01:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A501065692 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6E38FC1E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sleuth64 (unknown [62.49.197.51]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF7634D417; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:01:13 +0100 (BST) From: "David Southwell" To: "'Robert Huff'" References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org><4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64><529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> <19140.50178.53068.254287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:00:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpCp/m3WyglecgkTJO3VZHt96YwwgAB+OoQ In-Reply-To: <19140.50178.53068.254287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Cc: 'Mak Kolybabi' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:01:17 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Huff > Sent: 01 October 2009 08:00 > To: David Southwell > Cc: 'Mak Kolybabi'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files > > > David Southwell writes: > > > One problem > > > > How about ports that are not installed? > > > > Is there another route that will deal with stuff not on the system? > > I'm not quite sure what you're asking here; perhaps you > could give a scenario? > The above methods only work for things that are > properly installed/registered with the ports(/packages) > system. If you've installed something not from a port ... > you're on your own. > > My scenario is a port is compiling but complains about the absense of a header or a file from a port that has NOT been installed on the system. I have had this a few times when essential source was in a port not listed as a dependency. What I am thinking of is a centrally maintained database of all header and library files available to the port system. David > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 16:48:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9FB106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BEC8FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5739 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2009 16:48:08 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Oct 2009 16:48:08 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 88E02508BE; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:48:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org> <4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64> <529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:48:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> (David Southwell's message of "Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:53:14 -0700") Message-ID: <44bpkrysag.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: david@vizion2000.net Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:48:09 -0000 "David Southwell" writes: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of >> David Southwell >> Sent: 01 October 2009 07:50 >> To: 'Mak Kolybabi' >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of >> Mak Kolybabi >> > Sent: 01 October 2009 07:07 >> > To: david@vizion2000.net >> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> > Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files >> > >> > On 2009-10-01 06:59, david@vizion2000.net wrote: >> > > What is the simplest way to found out which port installs >> specific >> > > harder or library files? >> > >> > pkg_info has a --which flag that tells you what package a file came >> > from: >> > % pkg_info --which /usr/local/include/pcre.h >> /usr/local/include/pcre.h >> > was installed by package pcre-7.9 >> > >> > -- >> > Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) >> > >> Thanks Mat >> >> Now I have two solutions for the price of one question >> >> Brill!! > OK > > One problem > > How about ports that are not installed? > > Is there another route that will deal with stuff not on the system? > > David You can search the pkg-plist files in the ports tree. This won't work for ports that build a dynamic plist, but those are fairly unusual among library ports. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 17:05:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A50106568B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81C88FC28 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MtP62-0008Rt-46; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:05:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3D635582A8; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AC4E157.3030201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:05:27 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Southwell References: <20091001140724.GA27416@brisbane.nepharia.org><4EDA11A6F5CE4422A7BE01EE571C58DA@sleuth64><529486569750436B97C259AC2D363D7F@sleuth64> <19140.50178.53068.254287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: 'Mak Kolybabi' , 'Robert Huff' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking up libraries and header files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:05:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Southwell wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Huff >> Sent: 01 October 2009 08:00 >> To: David Southwell >> Cc: 'Mak Kolybabi'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Looking up libraries and header files >> >> >> David Southwell writes: >> >>> One problem >>> >>> How about ports that are not installed? >>> >>> Is there another route that will deal with stuff not on the system? >> I'm not quite sure what you're asking here; perhaps you >> could give a scenario? >> The above methods only work for things that are >> properly installed/registered with the ports(/packages) >> system. If you've installed something not from a port ... >> you're on your own. >> >> > My scenario is a port is compiling but complains about the absense of a > header or a file from a port that has NOT been installed on the system. I > have had this a few times when essential source was in a port not listed as > a dependency. > > What I am thinking of is a centrally maintained database of all header and > library files available to the port system. > > David > Hi David, If a port requires a certain file to build or run, and it's included in another port that isn't listed as a dependency, please file a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html) so the port can be fixed. In the mean time, you can find port files by grepping /usr/ports like so: find /usr/ports -name pkg-plist -exec grep -l {} \; or grep -rl /usr/ports Keep in mind that not all ports have a pkg-plist file, so this will not work in some cases. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFKxOFX0sRouByUApARAklaAKDI9nslpnrbnCUbewj4ux1JmNRvvACfcfd0 YReyg0Sl/pLUVceb+jlaMYM= =Or79 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 17:17:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36A2106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76AEC8FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51963 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2009 17:17:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254417445; bh=Yt6ve0trcrFRRuESmW44fsomWrEOJK6dO/nJGH4CR7o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LkWDijJ5AgVYQNN/0+gG84aJwjvJAsXgODhefCCC9qHQvs3GPsz4GNoxkjgznSVikgTLYNAkJqJ213Il2FQPS+qhwiyrKtf75iO7PgpGHHDEf/wctXZLlihjAHSgWBhAwhjE4F2mlehkzlpO7MvDitRPX9NtDFamil82b6IquH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Apfg6tgqfcILGbY1zBb4BFZqNoojs9SeM2tQMFc7IkyNxT8xmvJotbPHxiGf6iG2T/ApZX9EBrPnvcy98nwXkTttDQQ8uiwI1mJOsgWk0JCVWs/4m5x3cjQYCKNjZo1jMcxWv0+ZXDNZ/UsFw0Yga+H/KsD47I6GNfPsjbAmA3Q=; Message-ID: <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7ODKLuEVM1nj.cF.q4XxvdIfB43NmgrWHAmIpTfuu3NeqL4b4VfK5I1ojOGPK0W481C_uIYxwhBqp5FU.RsuR2foJn29NYYyb3whYqed0aBh8jASWxyZW_Xp_PKn41NKkG.OzGLvaDnL112fiVdZ5cJxKb5yHBUiDoz.zcrVBlr6gQ4k7P5HceZRjQzPiFg1WeuJk1HuaO0MhKnVd6D7qOpuz80NpxfKh0qEZEJHcKIFo.Il1QAodUkqtS1NalAHUIIRSs66bRF1nY1NNlP49CJRVWryv27b15_6O2pMPXAtZ2Mxh2nU.G3Xo7PYn9eIholeOB9JfZd8lFy952ZlK5t9spZ.jLzK3Wc8BpJcIfbNk7bDQSVO7ee7h58khWrFZCrKmZP9Ypgh_byEHW_y9g-- Received: from [69.172.83.42] by web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:17:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:17:26 -0000 What is needed in order to run nntp? How does nntp connect to other news se= rvers? Where do you define the news groups that the server would subscribe = to?=0AAny pointers or suggested configuration?=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Or= iginal Message ----=0AFrom: Lowell Gilbert =0ATo: Aflatoon Aflatooni ; freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:12:56 AM=0ASubject: Re: = usenet configuration=0A=0AOdhiambo Washington writes:= =0A=0A> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:=0A>=0A>> Can someone point me to what software I need to insta= ll in order to provide=0A>> a usenet service for internal users?=0A>=0A>=0A= >=0A> cd /usr/ports=0A> make search key=3Dusenet=0A=0AOr better yet, "nntp"= .=0A=0AI think cnews is still the standard server software, but there are a= =0Abunch of alternatives that might be easier for a small installation.=0A= =0A-- =0ALowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area= =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 18:10:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D141065670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7311A8FC18 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so343520bwz.43 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xQMlutiKoEVXByLj2DZ0XOs5F8QiHiGlmAgCQ2sOFvc=; b=SaMn9Qgyv2KtbrzRxaq14mkWTzJmvjNPABJeAOVHX/PkFYN6q/JuuyQEGCUehkCto2 ccjk8dEDNzTQCAKNm23FV0Le+Sxm3vBapcra2JIGHw1drJJOSCGInzB/pR7PSY8JCbus wePSQHbBX0N1kDf2Nl/NXyBy9oeAbysqb4bKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=llrOKF6dVhsKkh0uUgfLEAGTPATUdXLD9KKKHv1j2flhbdWYTf6klTWsCaEmxZW35+ /4nba8OJ8qR3aWBmp8p1fDYUSS6+JyqKHcb4+Zu98vOTe5s3zUc9mrOMI237JRgErIvL VCatH6nyAqlf+vYMM23mkLHukdQxDCVhpW1qU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.65 with SMTP id x1mr274148bkv.6.1254420638244; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:10:18 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400910011110h5cfffa17q4584259a3fe4289a@mail.gmail.com> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:10:40 -0000 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > What is needed in order to run nntp? How does nntp connect to other news > servers? Where do you define the news groups that the server would subscribe > to? > Any pointers or suggested configuration? > Thanks You want pple to chew for you then you swallow?:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 18:19:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F16106568D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725158FC15 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n91IJMUr056331 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC4F2A8.7040201@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:19:20 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why my Firefox doesn't display Cyrillic fonts well? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:19:22 -0000 I have this problem for a long time. Firefox shows all Cyrillic fonts with very large spaces between letters, almost the same as the real space character. So it's very difficult to read. Interestingly, Opera shows the same pages very neatly in different font looking very well. I attach here fonts section from my xorg.conf. What's wrong in my configuration? Yuri --- fonts section from xorg.conf --- Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/tmu/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu" EndSection --- cyrillic fonts installed --- font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org Cronyx Cyrillic font font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org miscellaneous Cyrillic font font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 X.Org Screen Cyrillic font font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org Winitzki Cyrillic font xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.4 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 18:42:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C14C1065676 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530A18FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22828 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2009 18:42:20 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Oct 2009 18:42:20 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id ABB6C508BE; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:42:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:42:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Aflatoon Aflatooni's message of "Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44ab0bez1x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:42:21 -0000 Don't top-post, please. Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > What is needed in order to run nntp? How does nntp connect to other news servers? Where do you define the news groups that the server would subscribe to? > Any pointers or suggested configuration? NNTP is the protocol, not the software. Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > From: Lowell Gilbert > To: Aflatoon Aflatooni ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:12:56 AM > Subject: Re: usenet configuration > > Odhiambo Washington writes: > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: >> >>> Can someone point me to what software I need to install in order to provide >>> a usenet service for internal users? >> >> >> >> cd /usr/ports >> make search key=usenet > > Or better yet, "nntp". By which I meant "make search key=nntp" > I think cnews is still the standard server software, but there are a > bunch of alternatives that might be easier for a small installation. So install one and look at its documentation. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:04:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B09106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmdlnkid@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB848FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so448134fxm.36 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id :x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version:content-type; bh=AD6jsdCmrr1bUsukts8dcTMattVCuyZ2trtJhTTxxN0=; b=VI82dO+2B45M/LWFZEiSui5oEIlRf5vHnA5XVVzlcnIuHZHs6fZFbfu2OOP/I8hwwP Tyt4B8ghImv+t8+WJCyzrRg2HJoRjlgoQVv/u8k/zVDLsjtfh6aXvad72b0RwH0olzq+ TYZvrnQ8x49Wp9pGTVX8wVXdasBHLgC8fx+hI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=Oaee0MUCN60SCaRLwsHIHPXrbd2rxJWbuOTFEHAxzNI0B3KXGh6ul//ONiOy3GBXbI QdoXp5vixv70JYxRNpQgicw2KI5GnH5U86SyNAYLuBoQoUCHlsX7bpbMNtsyORb1CI4Y saZUcifn8MTBoZxWyqHEeMkZH/T8fz5sHTWzs= Received: by 10.86.170.22 with SMTP id s22mr1492726fge.37.1254423859256; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm12680fgg.19.2009.10.01.12.04.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:04:10 -0400 From: CmdLnKid To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <991123400910011110h5cfffa17q4584259a3fe4289a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910011110h5cfffa17q4584259a3fe4289a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0xFAD8B467 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: D197 8B5A C1BC AD25 33C9 16DF 2C68 DCDE FAD8 B467 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:04:21 -0000 On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:10 -0000, odhiambo wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > >> What is needed in order to run nntp? How does nntp connect to other news >> servers? Where do you define the news groups that the server would subscribe >> to? >> Any pointers or suggested configuration? >> Thanks > > > You want pple to chew for you then you swallow?:-) > Really that was so insightful it inspired me to respond. I use news/inn for a local WiFi news server for the community around me to connect to that pulls threads from the net and post on local spots for for replies by the community. I can not recommend cnews as for I have no experience with it. INN on the other hand is a pretty big configuration and has a lot of options and knobs to tune so I really would not recommend that if your not up for reading thoroughly through the docs to achieve the proper layout of your news server. When you do understand INN if you decide to use it give me a holler I would be interested to know what your final outcome is. Best regards and good luck. PS: I spent around 2 months on a offline INN server just to understand some of the inn's and outs along with post signing etc. It took about that long before I finally became comfortable with putting it up for public use. -- - (2^(N-1)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:06:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B59106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from computing.account@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f208.google.com (mail-ew0-f208.google.com [209.85.219.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BC68FC13 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so497076ewy.7 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BC5QcFfD444ekI8XjomV/uEmU43CxmHU2SNY+PJ/rlw=; b=SMmBYDEwOYSJOvMTNVWW7MRbT2tmaZDq573cAovtCV2drH4IJpJZSzBUxEoA+BT0Io Y15eRnnTujCN0i3qXQUuTO+9q0W488nLZd1ZJ5dei5QfW5zIMaoKRWCIPyNiOYIhktun ITNOqAZvRNiq0rmjZEGHUGmss3wu17nHu9L8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YxicwJvng11B59EpEdOPx6VDzaIAih67XF0Im/lOWvkYPNmjMCWeYp5LcVHfWyzkY8 1OuC67+zlE8wYEuVNm0RGluEqVpE/pCNGUaiMGFRtPkG3sofjfolU3EycaC0GRQhw+R0 yV+Z2w1rgQBVgBgVHgRqZGSG4Lw700Uhfbcl8= Received: by 10.211.154.17 with SMTP id g17mr8492622ebo.32.1254424001950; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.40? (78-105-132-248.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.132.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm35620eyg.19.2009.10.01.12.06.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC4FDF1.4060106@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:07:29 +0100 From: AG User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Query about pf.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:06:43 -0000 Hello I want to see why I am unable to download via ftp. I believe that it would have something to do with my pf.conf file in my firewall, so have listed that below. ########### simple pf.conf ################## # allow all outgoing TCP, UDP # allow outgoing ICMP ping # specifically block 11 common inet services # Modified for nntp and bittorrent ############################################# # MACRO ext_if = "rl0" int_if = "vr0" PING = "echoreq" allow_tcp = "{ 119 }" #Port needed for nntp server #IntNet = "192.168.1.0/24" #Sub-net range #InBitTCP = "{ 6969, 6881:6889 }" #Ports needed for BitTorrent #BitIP = "192.168.1.40" #BitTorrent client tcp_services = "{ smtp, pop3, pop3s, www, msa, https, ftp, whois, ssh, telnet, rsync }" udp_services = "{ domain }" # OPTIONS: set block-policy drop set optimization normal set loginterface $ext_if # SCRUB: scrub in on $ext_if all # NAT/RDR nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> $ext_if #nat on $ext_if proto tcp from $IntNet port $InBitTCP to any -> $ext_if \ static-port #nat on $ext_if proto udp from $IntNet port $InBitTCP to any -> $ext_if \ static-port #rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from !$IntNet to any port 6969 -> $BitIP port 6969 #rdr on $ext_if proto udp from !$IntNet to any port 6881:6889 -> $BitIP \ port 6881:6889 # filter: block log on $ext_if all #pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to any port $InBitTCP \ flags S/SA synproxy state #pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port $InBitTCP #pass out on $int_if inet proto tcp from any to $IntNet port $port_bittorrent \ flags S/SA synproxy state #pass out on $int_if inet proto udp from any to $IntNet port $port_bittorrent pass quick on lo0 all pass out on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port $allow_tcp keep state pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto tcp from \ { $ext_if:network, $int_if:network } to any port $tcp_services keep state pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto udp from \ { $ext_if:network, $int_if:network } to any port $udp_services keep state pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto icmp from \ { $ext_if:network, $int_if:network } to any icmp-type $PING keep state antispoof for $ext_if antispoof for $int_if #### /etc/pf.conf ends ###################### Can anyone shine a light on this to help me out please? Many TIA. AG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:12:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B3B1065676 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com (mail-px0-f192.google.com [209.85.216.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CF48FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so627319pxi.7 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:12:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5GszN5HhydEKFzaRVf84C860AC4yq+VfS/WKSkxYzaI=; b=R7wTGrhq4fwh9PY9KguhapfWyQqJDweHgcawlufDvvYN43sAMdBCpS1mOObnuRKzTO 5de+T2dz9+fZSGkMhGtHmwIZ3lCL4w5rl09gWdN8EDCGipOP+vTI7kmzct8PeqxgeOZq Ly+1mbDaDSU/VwPnq7mRZbSHLtBtOIlS+SN2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lomnIXhgOQBzK7+ewzvpNooCmEK3tgGO/c8eJvbG0qqm0gfP7clKYv12SJ8p2hIRaE 4GZcVy2GWeRK+RSgSTBFbsXQ09MWD+xYaTYNa8HXy+JdGM1E6SAKUeyISSmdhPT7ps3c yo0zKeu1QWW1LxasUsWVctdBNVVJpE3Hntj7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.9.16 with SMTP id 16mr2586804wai.114.1254422548062; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:42:28 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: bluetooth.h, c++ include error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:12:06 -0000 Hello, while going through bluetooth.h, I observed int bt_devfilter(int s, struct bt_devfilter const *new, struct bt_devfilter *old); this line appears in bluetooth.h @ line # 166, rv197571 see ? the variable named 'new' will cause trouble to c++ source files i honestly believe this is not intentional, c++ programmers will have to perform some acrobats to get past this thanks, Masoom Shaikh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:14:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB07D106566B for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB0F8FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so435831yxe.3 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xoBmIV3TWzhzoovsXd82jPr6wWJpB8ryS/qWlpNrBf8=; b=hU7fj2UoPY2PMAfT4HHi4r1EJNJ5H9ezrCi7WzgzKGiUx1hS4Q73mgA7eJNFL1uJxe quBFykFXHDp5NoOgwSsOicAo8v1WoPqIqNXSfOSW1Feb4h6dg3TtIn669vQbWDGkd9Ad QNRyv3KKwbDtSpw0tmRa7MqpukoHafbA7DQqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FpMZrlLwcK0jTYhvKJmQdtKmofVGNw9910sM1KjgOZpkRiZTPj2gwvv7MG2u7TaUZW rH6swERSE+YJURV2vUjvugfT7aIiRo46NrdTwj1dnLihZTbCYuUXsCcfRiDz/rST3sdz L3lfm5N3s+ryELYk7EHwrVj9YCPvMiunSnADw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.56.11 with SMTP id i11mr1561583ank.5.1254424489550; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:14:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC4FDF1.4060106@gmail.com> References: <4AC4FDF1.4060106@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:14:49 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query about pf.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:14:54 -0000 ftp-proxy(8) please read. Especially the configuration section. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:20:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA6F1065670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95B7A8FC20 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56758 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2009 19:20:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254424806; bh=JiQh9tWUyyVfcP+OYVYidh+tI0skf0B1nfzuVTXVOAU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=derQtuLoustwk3nUm8Ziy/RElLglDKdcLpOKmr/F8keH5QzPtg6ZaSwRUse3NCT2AXhD3bZbWK/IkI4hQhSX/UVkhZ51ypIFj9LjJO8s1/AynnRfkABSO3zkKLWtpIhc4ucnE9810XzS1m3xaLezHHMs89X/4yN7JbCtGOoi/Gk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IvoR/cvbyADodTRmSSQZx+fZXsTcNb0wOUGtKB4rWtjFD0iCZERqpBVSArq5lbuxOR0UkNskRtzGcKXjzysp6e3BeXbSl2ArtjNpEmz8ReFFt6a/Wmtz13XkuVySU10OEeW7C+wgHzWe0/f2+CeoWdCnlt7hi/aTl0P/5FRVztk=; Message-ID: <80173.56174.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZWUfzLEVM1nzE4M_i8G1UgZlldTfNM.ippGiWxRPFAp8m1f8v3a45AQ9Mr8q7OcMeh5jA3R5zFP12xdanCKRF9fng9eSI.bEZ_mj2fmPVV0A2YuefwDXzaUOdWrdEOX6haWWTeQRAzX1ZT041WPTbIJvEcTyAqzTFs_zRhjBSORfUeRuqg4dTKpf9tj8VssHKyv8VJV78cb3.4RVfTnXCXIH_c7kAlX8TX7yeWgEiUu6OUUjWiGlGY17wLe5dkkWioLQLMMAeZ.F7LdVK1SJkqxztGcPbTt6HNQrU7WK5G._dHDhfhXhY077guwsfViZv8iakX2cVaPz08dme1KodPW1cS4cwuCCIQb13OG.b1Nt4_mq60m7L.Pm Received: from [69.172.83.42] by web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:20:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: migrating users from one machine to another machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:20:11 -0000 What is the best way of migrating users from one machine (FreeBSD 6.3) to a new machine (FreeBSD 7.2)? I need to migrate their user account settings (shell, password, expiry etc) and also their data that they have in their directories. Many thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 19:22:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644EB1065670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF398FC22 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n91JLBB8095263 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:22:45 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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References 1. mailto:infodriveindia@gmail.com 2. mailto:delhisales@gmail.com?subject=remove From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 20:45:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3385F1065670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3F68FC12 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so534312fxm.36 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:45:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TXuw7fMCOSNyJ60bA55TXCXbtUmw6Lu0nSNxRXBK7Ks=; b=rXWFiv0kn89Jw1HqE2rfY8VXxo/BLUJEdTmo6cd5EiJo34vhRI652czseTQtHrTD/I tX9oEuowQ+cZFeHH2PQZprR7CSTll0EfKzdAn+yz1J6dcIEDeEhV9mUJOrcMqnXv396R wt/hhsCQYqbDYs/hspcpI+GAlao8ULL52+3Is= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=E3irmcOAs4dz4B+/yNHlQYCPdS3cEIYrtA+B+T9bqdVGHhp99uDYsy/Dh/yg6btBSu yA1Aw7mYjPLMTaCaP/HqDAekP4GRZBCUtnx2+i894Htpj7MV+kTc4wXmVrzFMC7/Gqmr u1LBU9HFs1r2XMGDSYMHS7m1RP1v4vWV3JJN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.11 with SMTP id q11mr143990hba.98.1254429573894; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:39:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4AC4FDF1.4060106@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: AG , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query about pf.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:45:52 -0000 2009/10/1 Tim Judd > ftp-proxy(8) > > please read. Especially the configuration section. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > does passive ftp work? If so then yes read ftp-proxy. Basically normal or active ftp requires the ftp server to connect back to the client. Therefore the firewall needs to know to forward this connection on. ftp-proxy does this for you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 21:33:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59AA1065679 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raymond.gibson@verizon.net) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E968FC12 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avatar.gibson.net ([71.97.56.214]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQU00AV8RR1XVS0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:33:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Raymond Gibson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:33:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Message-id: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> Subject: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:33:48 -0000 I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using a USB printer on my host machine. My host was built with as a minimal FreeBSD 7.2-Release=20 install. I added ezjail and created two jails. Both jails are working and I= =20 can login to both using ssh. I'm trying to build one of the jails as a print server. I added the followi= ng=20 to it: cups-1.3.10_1 hpijs-2.1.4_3 libijs-0.35_1 foomatic-db-20090530 foomatic-filters-4.0.1_2 On the host i did the following: I added this to /etc/devfs.conf own ultp0 root:cups perm ultp0 0660 I added this to /etc/devfs.rules # Printers add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups [devfsrules_jail_PrintServer=3D10] add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups I added cups:*:193:root, to /etc/group After a reboot, I can access the administration website. I added a printer and allowed remote access.=20 =46rom administration page - printer status: Description: HP Photosmart 7350 Location: Home Printer Driver: HP PhotoSmart 7350 Foomatic/hpijs (recommended) Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: usb:/dev/ulpt0=20 Wen printing a test page from administration page i get permission denied. HPPhotosmart7350 (Default Printer) "Unable to open device file "/dev/ulpt0"= :=20 Permission denied" How do i solve this? Please let me know if more information is needed. I thank you for your time and help in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 21:36:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D501065672; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52AE8FC16; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 11A698C08D; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:36:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:36:57 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:04:08 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , ion-general@lists.berlios.de, Erwin Lansing , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:36:57 -0000 On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 03:45:46PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > Now it's LGPLv2.1 with the only restriction that this software may not > be significantly changed while being distributed as ion3. I hate to replay this whole issue from the beginning, but apparently there is no other way. The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were not in compliance with the 28-day clause. A long, acrimonious disucssion ensued. In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to meet that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove any further legal threat?" and he said yes ... for now. But that he reserved the right to change his mind later. *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any lawsuit. Legally indefensible? Of course. Would that prevent a lawsuit being filed? No. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Summary: What you see as "keeping a useful piece of software out of the port collection", I see as "protect the interests of a project that I have put a great deal of interest in time to." Again, I *emphasize* that this author has changed his mind in the past, mid-debate, on the interpretation of his ... unusual ... license. I also believe that it's quite likely going forward. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 21:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1A9106568F; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0378FC08; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B0CB38C085; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:37:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:37:40 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20091001213740.GB14925@lonesome.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930144535.GD50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930145925.GB503@obspm.fr> <20090930172746.4d7d5fee@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20090930165843.GD503@obspm.fr> <20091001105823.GE50565@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001105823.GE50565@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:04:15 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:37:41 -0000 On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 02:58:23PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > No need to, if it works fine and there are no objections for it, > I'll commit it to the tree. I insist that you not to commit it to the tree. See my other post. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 1 23:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0C5106568D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569DD8FC20 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0131E3A3844; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:13 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254440713; x= 1256255113; bh=2T59aRzEJsdYTrxdQ3TKoOhWZRQEJoLO9V7Y4bSRITU=; b=e wSRN0WBVmOHkgjzY3gUgtnVz74jcQpFEFJmMvfiIyYOxGYSE5W72sVxDd9LmGtuD lVHFwz1+trGiQ2H6wQbWRFcW6IxNB+kHhAIGFNHGGqSA7i0RnZ3UDvgakI3WgTAc WIo+vczi+HK7zkWC6ECnwAmQgBj3fID80UgOWVnlo4= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7Rtw19NDH2+E; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487BF3A3839; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n91NjCcK048650; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:12 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:45:12 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910012345.n91NjCcK048650@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: aaflatooni@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <80173.56174.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (message from Aflatoon Aflatooni on Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT)) References: <80173.56174.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating users from one machine to another machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:45:17 -0000 Hi, > What is the best way of migrating users from one machine (FreeBSD > 6.3) to a new machine (FreeBSD 7.2)? > I need to migrate their user account settings (shell, password, > expiry etc) and also their data that they have in their directories. Basically: - you need to vipw on both machine and copy the user accounts from the old machine to the new machine, that is fast; - you need to copy the home directories of your users from one machine to the other, that can take long time if you have a lot of users with a lot of data. To be sure that there is no change being made by the users while you are copying the data/accounts, you must disable any login during the copy process. You can practice copying the accounts while the machines are online (login enabled); but be certain to do a final copy with the machine offline (login disabled). If copying data would take too long time and you cannot afford to put the system offline for such a long period, you could install rsync on both machines. - keep machines online and rsync the users data from the old machine to the new one. - repeat rsyncing indefinitely, this will continue copying file that has changed. - put the machine offline and do a last rsync: that one should not take too long as it will only copy what has changed since the very last run of rsync. Another way regarding the users' data, if they reside on a separate hard disk, you can simply physically mount that hard disk in the new machine. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 07:15:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D331065676 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16468FC1E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1MtcMC-0009I3-NB; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:15:12 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4AC4F2A8.7040201@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:15:23 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4AC4F2A8.7040201@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:19:20 -0700") Message-ID: <10349524@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why my Firefox doesn't display Cyrillic fonts well? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:15:16 -0000 On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:19:20 -0700 Yuri wrote: > I have this problem for a long time. Firefox shows all Cyrillic fonts > with very large spaces between letters, almost the same as the real > space character. So it's very difficult to read. Interestingly, Opera > shows the same pages very neatly in different font looking very > well. I attach here fonts section from my xorg.conf. > What's wrong in my configuration? > Yuri > --- fonts section from xorg.conf --- > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/tmu/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu" > EndSection > --- cyrillic fonts installed --- > font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org Cronyx Cyrillic font > font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org miscellaneous Cyrillic font > font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 X.Org Screen Cyrillic font > font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 X.Org Winitzki Cyrillic font > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.4 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts Install x11-fonts/webfonts and do apropriate changes to xorg.conf. I have webfonts right after misc fonts at xorg.conf. That always gave me good results. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 07:22:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EF21065670 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0003C8FC19 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n927M1UZ043777; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:22:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4AC5AA13.7000406@bah.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:21:55 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:22:09 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni said the following on 2009-10-01 19:17: > What is needed in order to run nntp? INN https://www.isc.org/software/inn A faq for INN is at http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html Diablo gttp://www.openusenet.org/diablo A faq for diablo is at the above address. DNews http://www.netwinsite.com/dnews.htm Typhoon (not free/open) http://www.highwinds-software.com/ > How does nntp connect to other news servers? Via TCP/IP. > Where do you define the news groups that the server would subscribe to? You mean what groups would be carried? The active file takes care of that. > Any pointers or suggested configuration? A bit difficult since I do not know what software you choose. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 07:31:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD23106568B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E2F8FC17 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n927VB10043949; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:31:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4AC5AC3A.7050009@bah.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:31:06 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raymond Gibson References: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:31:16 -0000 Raymond Gibson said the following on 2009-10-01 22:33: > I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using a USB printer on > my host machine. My host was built with as a minimal FreeBSD 7.2-Release > install. I added ezjail and created two jails. Both jails are working and I > can login to both using ssh. > On the host i did the following: > > I added this to /etc/devfs.conf > own ultp0 root:cups > perm ultp0 0660 > > > I added this to /etc/devfs.rules > > # Printers > add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > [devfsrules_jail_PrintServer=10] > add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups Something doesn't seem right with you devfs.rules file. Mine looks like this: [system=10] add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups > After a reboot, I can access the administration website. > I added a printer and allowed remote access. > >>From administration page - printer status: > Description: HP Photosmart 7350 > Location: Home > Printer Driver: HP PhotoSmart 7350 Foomatic/hpijs (recommended) > Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. > Device URI: usb:/dev/ulpt0 > > > Wen printing a test page from administration page i get permission denied. > HPPhotosmart7350 (Default Printer) "Unable to open device file "/dev/ulpt0": > Permission denied" > > How do i solve this? > > Please let me know if more information is needed. > > I thank you for your time and help in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 07:59:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D444C1065679 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82C48FC23 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n927wpS2044420; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:58:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4AC5B2B3.3030503@bah.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:58:43 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:59:04 -0000 Gary Kline said the following on 2009-10-01 21:22: > so ==nobody== know how to get espeak working with the high-quality > voices? hard to believe on this list... Have you checked the documentaion, and hoe do you want to use it with OO? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 09:15:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE474106568B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B8B8FC15 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091002091512.YZRP17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:12 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.107.64]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091002091512.YHZE13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:12 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 30E02680D; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86678673E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:08 +0100 (BST) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:08 +0100 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:15:08 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091002091507.GA19609@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80173.56174.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <200910012345.n91NjCcK048650@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200910012345.n91NjCcK048650@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aDaptznB6TUA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=Xc3V6j4kAWphB4t7F6sA:9 a=17AyCpREVK4iPbGvbncA:7 a=utK4RcZeANxWc7py13QD373kJysA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=sBEH7G0ggvQciTfLJocA:9 a=EvQ4pWZXKphF8MYSwt0tEICqyD8A:4 Subject: Re: migrating users from one machine to another machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:15:25 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 06:45:12AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, >=20 > > What is the best way of migrating users from one machine (FreeBSD > > 6.3) to a new machine (FreeBSD 7.2)? >=20 > > I need to migrate their user account settings (shell, password, > > expiry etc) and also their data that they have in their directories. >=20 > Basically: >=20 > - you need to vipw on both machine and copy the user accounts from the > old machine to the new machine, that is fast; Or copy /etc/passwd from the old machine to the new one, and run=20 pwd_mkdb, which is essentially what vipw does anyway. And don't forget to sync your groups file as well! Dan >=20 > - you need to copy the home directories of your users from one machine > to the other, that can take long time if you have a lot of users > with a lot of data. >=20 > To be sure that there is no change being made by the users while you > are copying the data/accounts, you must disable any login during the > copy process. >=20 > You can practice copying the accounts while the machines are online > (login enabled); but be certain to do a final copy with the machine > offline (login disabled). >=20 > If copying data would take too long time and you cannot afford to put > the system offline for such a long period, you could install rsync on > both machines. >=20 > - keep machines online and rsync the users data from the old machine > to the new one. >=20 > - repeat rsyncing indefinitely, this will continue copying file that > has changed. >=20 > - put the machine offline and do a last rsync: that one should not > take too long as it will only copy what has changed since the very > last run of rsync. >=20 >=20 > Another way regarding the users' data, if they reside on a separate > hard disk, you can simply physically mount that hard disk in the new > machine. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrFxJsACgkQixf5fBYiFmrx8ACg2vzxtL2U6dEyeLW1HcvtZ6Pm yVAAn3iaYHOoPeo7tK62IYLQu9QLdqYZ =7V5z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 10:08:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606D51065679 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728AB8FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:52274) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtf3O-000JkA-OD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:07:58 +0200 Received: from iwdf-5.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.28]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtf3O-0000BN-LA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:07:58 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:07:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.35) Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:08:02 -0000 On 2 Oct 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 278, Issue 10": > Message: 28 > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:22:45 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > Subject: NO ONE knows?? > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Message-ID: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > so ==nobody== know how to get espeak working with the high-quality > voices? hard to believe on this list... I use espeak, but have never tried to use any other than the stock voice, it works just fine. I suspect most other folks have the same experience. I use espeak to verbalize warnings and errors from XYMON on the main server which sits next to me, since I'm not always looking at email. > gary -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 12:51:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CCF1065676 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F304E8FC1C for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87541 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2009 12:51:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NOoBiSGf528UP3Ij90SZJLHvqrsFcjfxJOwIBazUETF8rwkP9SYoiPAIt1T3s6modU8aHHgOpLEhL+s9zGb/XW5NwcnFcq+05qHj4tv+bUrmthlLt5Zoa/sVb7zn8JLp8BDyTgPMg/ySHrbxwU9TE3TpDvOci/KlRS2mdwnUd3I= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Oct 2009 05:51:16 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: eZPzMdgVM1nP1DtPPFOZSmtuoXOxrS9el5hjq7y6j6B_aWiPS1prtJnSggsEpXSHIIal0vTIqywM3Ax5XQUEn8xCFO8uNi0rkKP_qI.7Wz0KPIgh0biU1rJvI5RceZlnWovLPXLdgCpTJ0T82N7c2km3odIGXudLwfBAh_qH236M8It4j3JRCq8RKRl8wgoQGT9b5pr7I3SF1O1aE5bVl4TawE.9bFEvYWbM5HbrridQtGHXIZ4QJ.3pjFTK.EinryYm4bDBtpabWhECWxMOfX0ORgnNUFNh66le6x4v1_lgkfR0pcpRIPWTA36Gi2tfFfqn9AJnO3eJ6U842UyjuM3bQhUldiFxA0rOrQHzq3vccs4QC6BcEaICg.E- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD03422846 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:51:15 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091002085115.15a6985b@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Getting lphoto to run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:51:17 -0000 FreeBSD-7.2 running Xfce 4 Desktop Environment version 4.6.1 (Xfce 4.6) I am unable to get 'lphoto' to run. This is the output when it initially is started: QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty kbuildsycoca running... QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty Reading Library failed open Creating Default Empty Library QObject::connect: No such signal QDateTimeEdit::lostFocus() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local//lib/python2.6/site-packages/Lphoto/lphoto.py", line 720, in mw = LMainPhoto(app) File "/usr/local//lib/python2.6/site-packages/Lphoto/lphoto.py", line 49, in __init__ self.initModePanel(self.mainView) File "/usr/local//lib/python2.6/site-packages/Lphoto/lphoto.py", line 344, in initModePanel self.newAlbumButton = self.createToolBarButton(None, "buttonadd.png", hb, "add a new album") File "/usr/local//lib/python2.6/site-packages/Lphoto/lphoto.py", line 303, in createToolBarButton b = QPushButton(label, vb) TypeError: argument 2 of qt.QPushButton() has an invalid type DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-56132' to 'lphoto' lphoto: ERROR: Communication problem with lphoto, it probably crashed. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com In the beginning was the word. But by the time the second word was added to it, There was trouble. For with it came syntax ... John Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 13:58:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E191065670 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1598FC15 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2]:1762 helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MtieK-0003HK-1w; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:58:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: "Olivier Nicole" References: <6201873e0909300607u7bdbe45aw91972f253299e853@mail.gmail.com> <200910010116.n911Gmk2024725@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:57:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:58:23 -0000 Hi all, I now have a quote from Dell, for a 4 TB, RAID5 NX3000 NAS. It comes pre configured with Windows Storage Server 2008 Standard Edition. Dell support assures me it will be compatable with NFS on FreeBSD, but if we are not happy with it we can wipe it and install whatever software we want ... FreeNAS for example. Questions: Has anyone used/using Windows Storage Server 2008 with FreeBSD clients? Is there any compatability loss? (NSF). Is anyone using this specific hardware? If so, comments please! -Grant Has anyone used ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivier Nicole" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage > Hi, > >> All of the 200 domains on each server have thier own Real Unix user >> (obviously). Once the NAS is setup, (using NFS), how do the permissions >> on >> the NAS machine play out? i.e. when user 'hisname' logs into a server via >> ftp, and uploads a file to his home directory (which is on the NAS), will >> the file permissions be the same, and will 'hisname' own the file exactly >> the same as if he were writing to the local (server) disk? > > That is expected, else something bad would exists in the configuration > of the NAS. > >> In the NAS >> exports do I have to map every user to the NFS or can I just maproot? > > Maproot is the easiest as it gives complete access to the NFS exported > directory. > > Now you may consider that for security reason, users of client-machine > 1 should only be allowed to NFS mount their own home directory. > > In that case, you may need the users of client-machine 1 to exist on > client-machine 1 and on the server, etc for machine 2... Actually I > never had this case when a user account only exists on an NFS client > but not on the NFS server, so I am not too sure. I guess that user ID > of the users should be different on every client system. > > You may consider an LDAP directory for your users, where the server > would see all the users, but each client-machine would see only the > users belonging to it (I thing that there is an "host" attributes, so > client-1 only sees the users with host=client-1). > > Good luck, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 14:00:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53614106566B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@kocherfamily.org) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125B78FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so364970qwi.7 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.16.73 with SMTP id n9mr2845038qca.70.1254490179449; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <1e3f5d680910020629x52510b74o5763c6c25eea8787@mail.gmail.com> From: Troy Kocher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Ezjail, Perl, upgrading & best practices advise please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:00:09 -0000 All, Couple issues: 1) I need some understanding on how to deploy and upgrade perl properly in this jailed environment. 2) I need some help on my current tangle of Perl library complaints Issue #1: In a jailed environment how many installations of perl are recommended (ie 1 host system 2 basejail 3 each jail) ? =A0My sense would be that one on the host and one in the basejail, would be the most efficient. =A0If that is the case how do I upgrade the perl in the basejail? =A0How do I handle different versions of perl installed in each of the jails? Issue #2: =A0My lack of understanding has me in a mess currently. =A0My host environment is using (perl-threaded-5.8.9_3), in jail #1 I have (perl-5.8.9_3) when I try to use cpan here is what happens: jail1#perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' Terminal does not support AddHistory. cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.9301) ReadLine support available (maybe install Bundle::CPAN or Bundle::CPANxxl?) print() on closed filehandle FOUT at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 193. readline() on closed filehandle FIN at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 301. print() on closed filehandle FOUT at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 203. Terminal does not support GetHistory. Lockfile removed. In Jail #2 another issue. . : jail2#pkg_info |grep perl mod_perl2-2.0.3_3,3 Embeds a Perl interpreter in the Apache2 server p5-DBI-1.60.1 The perl5 Database Interface. Required for DBD::* modu= les p5-Devel-Symdump-2.0800 A perl5 module that dumps symbol names or the symbol table p5-Error-0.17012 Perl module to provide Error/exception support for perl= : Er p5-GD-2.35_1 A perl5 interface to Gd Graphics Library version2 p5-GD-Graph-1.44.01_1 Graph plotting module for perl5 p5-MIME-Tools-5.426,2 A set of perl5 modules for MIME p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.19,1 Perl subroutines that would be nice to have in the perl cor p5-Storable-2.18 Persistency for perl data structures p5-Term-ReadKey-2.30 A perl5 module for simple terminal control p5-Test-Harness-3.10 Run perl standard test scripts with statistics p5-Test-Simple-0.80 Basic utilities for writing tests in perl p5-Time-HiRes-1.9712,1 A perl5 module implementing High resolution time, sleep, an perl-5.8.8_1 then I try cpan jail2# perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.4" not found, required by "per= l" Troubleshooting this complaint on jail2 I discovered the time stamp on the host was different than the time stamp on the basejail. Anyway I'm puzzled, and I'm not really sure where to go from here. . I'd appreciate any help.. Thanks Troy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 14:23:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16EE106566B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4DE8FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2]:1916 helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtj2v-00046d-BI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <88CD8D18ADF4405DAA81B43F941698A5@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:23:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: "Out of mbuf address space!" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:23:46 -0000 Hi all, I have an older RAID 5 machine running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and am using it as = a backup storage unit. Yesterday morning, we noticed the the NFS mounts on the clients to this = machine we not available, which sent a bunch of cronjobs spinning out of = control etc. We also became unable to connect via ssh. Once at the console we noted sevral dozen entries in the messages.log: Oct 1 08:32:13 enterprise kernel: Out of mbuf address space! Oct 1 08:32:13 enterprise kernel: Consider increasing NMBCLUSTERS Oct 1 08:32:13 enterprise kernel: All mbufs or mbuf clusters exhausted, = please see tuning(7). After rebooting the machine, and getting the clients under control I = started investigating tunning(7) in the man pages. I am confused however. I have increased the kern.ipc.nmbclusters to 2048 in the = /boot/loader.conf, but when I checked netstat -m, it appears that there = are less buffers available then there were when the problem happened. netstat -m enterprise# netstat -m mbuf usage: GEN cache: 0/64 (in use/in pool) CPU #0 cache: 145/640 (in use/in pool) Total: 145/704 (in use/in pool) Mbuf cache high watermark: 512 Maximum possible: 4096 Allocated mbuf types: 144 mbufs allocated to data 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers 17% of mbuf map consumed mbuf cluster usage: GEN cache: 0/232 (in use/in pool) CPU #0 cache: 135/232 (in use/in pool) Total: 135/464 (in use/in pool) Cluster cache high watermark: 128 Maximum possible: 2048 = <-- this number was much higher 22% of cluster map consumed = <- this number was much lower. 1104 KBytes of wired memory reserved (27% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines This particular machine has 512 MB of ram. Any suggestions what an NFS intensive machine with 512 meg ram should = have kern.ipc.nmbclusters set to? Are there any otyher tunables I should be looking at. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 13:32:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62779106566B; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.104.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159FE8FC0C; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtiFL-0005c1-Na; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:32:31 -0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACA5B84D; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:32:31 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8436EB849; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:32:31 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:32:31 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:37:31 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , ion-general@lists.berlios.de, Erwin Lansing , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:32:35 -0000 * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: > The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were > not in compliance with the 28-day clause. A long, acrimonious disucssion > ensued. In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to meet > that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove > any further legal threat?" and he said yes ... > > for now. > > But that he reserved the right to change his mind later. > > *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in > adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or > "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any > lawsuit. > > Legally indefensible? Of course. Would that prevent a lawsuit being > filed? No. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well, us? And that anything will change by us not providing a port we have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide? That is just silly. The port from now on is available here (removed from people.freebsd.org): http://mirror.amdmi3.ru/ports/ion3-20090110.port.tar -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 13:38:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7FA1065670 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xn.bravo@alice.it) Received: from smtp-out01.alice.it (smtp-out01.alice.it [85.33.2.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2918FC16 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FBCMMO02.fbc.local ([192.168.68.196]) by smtp-out01.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:26:20 +0200 Received: from FBCMST14V02.fbc.local ([192.168.178.27]) by FBCMMO02.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:26:20 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:26:19 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Some Questions About Freebsd Please Help Me !! Thread-Index: AcpDY+2DxrnI7LARSOuvUrJWoFAyIQ== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2009 13:26:20.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE220270:01CA4363] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:37:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Some Questions About Freebsd Please Help Me !! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:38:26 -0000 Hi ,=20 i want to ask some questions about freebsd , one of my friend have = freebsd in his server , he is using it , he have ips issu on his server = and he is converting ips in proxies ( Socks 4/5 ) , i want to know how i = can do that , how i can set firewall that or what i need to do? , like = let me show you what he have did , he have give me SSH access , in that = when i go i need to put commands , i will give you some commands , to = make ip as proxy i need to give this command in ( Putty ) socks -d = -p14344 -i204.18.245.9 -e204.18.245.9 , it will convert ip in proxy , = but i dun know how to do that in freebsd , i will show you 1 screenshot = as well , here is screenshot ( http://i36.tinypic.com/wuoro6.png ) , = you can have a look on that as well , please help me if you can , like = this i am going to buy may be 20 freebsd for that , i want to know how = can i set all this in that , if you can help me in that , please send me = steps how i can make ip in proxy with the help of freebsd. Here is Some More Commands. To Stop Socks Here is Command : killall -9 socks To Start Socks Here is Command : socks -d -p14344 -i204.18.245.9 = -e204.18.245.9 Regrads Bravo italy 00393888992300 =20 Alice Messenger ;-) chatti anche con gli amici di Windows Live Messenger = e tutti i telefonini TIM! Vai su = http://maileservizi.alice.it/alice_messenger/index.html?pmk=3Dfooter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 15:45:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EDC1065679 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88BEC8FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75210 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 15:45:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254498310; bh=vrcOWAqTA565VYQ1Xvvo3gM3/NTWDd7+1Xb3naQTuMk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hSZLDnBp/BPPWmpWHBMBcCK1CtNyjjLmVEQxyrdUHmdVEWiJXuntQ/6yLwwe1w+M/pl+isAAwFmMTT90fUk67SEw98uBmwZ6v4r5UB9tUuluuEcq3+2Oa186NvZYqNSCyhJeUEXvLPgeqIh2tle12ocXJQChzMaBGbRakh/Wwp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ps3FoussHEZ7yQJxl5B6QLV/B31wGYaTeNPttaCDEn0hX3wd+Ibc1/b9tXYeLfe9l0vMo9wzuwRs2bvDcLS+/0sfkohpsiEs+oBmLHB8NoPtUCAT4U4GHUlJrMcOrfgyNBmVAEWly8RaH5uNgPWF1ppuX8Ndmtc2keK6ElI0rtc=; Message-ID: <71655.65913.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PtVzIpsVM1kw9LvQe.Ss2LFNh7qmXR7HpA4zKMBpcBL33wIEhGPnNiizhy1P6z2ynZMnUP9kpqBAecVdpc4dTi9Y9T6NVzhCH991Lt9dxYrUP.qmsAwdI8z4j03nuEMb.2eJP_7epYkw3FN79YWhd95pXnMG0Tjfy90QYiV1VWGBEiREwgGvca5yB4AhvbRA3SkFzHv913ORDoQ39GXVAWH7NzWzVt0xRc3N85m1Qt8CxXMtFh2ID5nzmFXTTfjX1ZC2dZguGoEUyPRZYxgRuI33684i4MET12q1TwXbYWdMBOYIaiVg.hfGCBGxDAsm.is1VfpOzHIQnVp1AoXkEykOZJfVJzenh73DAcveWbA6SppP9J0.MaM- Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:45:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:48:31 +0000 Subject: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:45:12 -0000 Hi, I am getting the following error in php5: Internal pcre_fullinfo() error I have tried rebuilding, but it doesn't seem to help. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 15:48:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116741065679 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58F78FC1F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n92Fl2P9006860; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:48:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: DA Forsyth Message-ID: <20091002154838.GA9446@thought.org> References: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:48:46 -0000 On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: > On 2 Oct 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about > "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 278, Issue 10": > > > Message: 28 > > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:22:45 -0700 > > From: Gary Kline > > Subject: NO ONE knows?? > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Message-ID: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > so ==nobody== know how to get espeak working with the high-quality > > voices? hard to believe on this list... > > I use espeak, but have never tried to use any other than the stock > voice, it works just fine. I suspect most other folks have the same > experience. > > I use espeak to verbalize warnings and errors from XYMON on the main > server which sits next to me, since I'm not always looking at email. > What I'm looking for is how to use the ``better than the default voices''; there are several english languages that are fairly natural sounding. Nothing I've googled explain using the quality voices for FreeBSD. gary > > gary > > > -- > DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor > Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research > http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 16:38:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F5B1065672 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398458FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n92Gc7JR088665; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC62C6E.9050205@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:38:06 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <4AC4F2A8.7040201@rawbw.com> <10349524@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <10349524@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why my Firefox doesn't display Cyrillic fonts well? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:38:09 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Install x11-fonts/webfonts and do apropriate changes to xorg.conf. > I have webfonts right after misc fonts at xorg.conf. That always > gave me good results. > Boris, Thanks for the advice. I did what you suggested but there is no visible change. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 17:23:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508B0106574B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root1101@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEC18FC1E for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1142890bwz.43 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JXlBr+24BMKgPOBJsUEPBOVa4F5uoCm9U5nuW3kMJrQ=; b=mB4XRaXxJc0iHxn7ef/puR+6m8Ooc77Zqtpp4MF4pDlVUkHkAnL686qlgXWUBWi9Gj lwofFFG77wICKOslF18dBj4W/SvQRLsw9qAo7BG7u3u2ETo0cyZ9MKupAoUzg5EOUqCj CJwlx4IUki+TmqB8pvSRSwxN0qXxaIt04xfQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GUodx5rb9/dvCe4aC0fW7xQrqkIRTURVrUNY1mUcrQyCIWhA+WLBo9d0olG86WEV5g E1IJqPbNOjr6RwnTA8hykq49ObA7Zf1tvYlqiYgkG0mDE89Db3ARHpKO/lD/d3UKllB0 c92b6eZesi2SLgWFSBuImwP/zdOOLlcCpOaH0= Received: by 10.204.32.13 with SMTP id a13mr1395628bkd.22.1254502786530; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.13? (ppp85-141-159-144.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.141.159.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k29sm2587980fkk.25.2009.10.02.09.59.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC6317E.9070109@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:59:42 +0400 From: "Eugene L." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4AC4F2A8.7040201@rawbw.com> <10349524@bb.ipt.ru> <4AC62C6E.9050205@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4AC62C6E.9050205@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why my Firefox doesn't display Cyrillic fonts well? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:23:40 -0000 Yuri ?????: > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Install x11-fonts/webfonts and do apropriate changes to xorg.conf. >> I have webfonts right after misc fonts at xorg.conf. That always >> gave me good results. > > > Boris, Thanks for the advice. > I did what you suggested but there is no visible change. > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well, personally I used the apparently old, as I was informed, method, described in the handbook, e.g. I borrowed the fonts from the Windows system, mapped them with the appropriate tool (read the handbook) and edited xorg.conf . Worked nicely, the default font was revolting ^_^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 18:10:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F868106586F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BD78FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so2984803ywh.7 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=m/08dUKpxh6oSJ4WFqs/doN4P3xYEKR62ODXvBQbQDM=; b=Zbz23GOpBmKnj7MmUJ5RRZUbKFI1o/brGA/gU8a1mFOUXHZJx3nKXRPgwszYPLa79m VIirBkNiXiR5Y0KCkJFWkk2SIsMUCc9n3W0sMOHSBEfmja2M5NyOuFHBEdXqRVUUo0YM e/gBnmg/UHVxb+RkjNWLrtEh3ZbEgirh6oRWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=gbEAEg3ePjdu9iVlTYqsw9p0zlIZjr5kYPcPAh7Wr6IqnpXwsurKPMkNvP6JwZ9LmC 8QCwzMWYe37VAyK/k8cbmLGVTsR7DyoMFbYarqyOjrzl03PSAPPu6Il/vqkVVR0PsPpe HgEGiHGi37cGIbGNlFgpCgM+UCj4k7iOFIDLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.161.28 with SMTP id n28mr1626196ago.36.1254507014399; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:10:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1349874867@web.de> References: <1349874867@web.de> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:10:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Sisantha Godawela-Ohle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 321, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:10:16 -0000 2009/10/1 Sisantha Godawela-Ohle : > Hello everybody, > > would like to know as why is in FreeBSD v 8.0 RC1 successfull installation on hp Proliant DL 320 with gnome > the gTerminal in System not available, although it is also installed? > any clue would be appriciated. > which gnome-terminal perhaps? > sincerely, > > sisantha > > PS. if this is not the right place to place the question, pl. kindly diket to (send me) the appropriste link, thanks. > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is probably the correct list, also, you will get better results if you compose a new mail to ask your questions. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 18:10:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439C11065679 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC18FC20 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.137] (helo=anti-virus01-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MtjYd-0003GA-Q2 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:56:32 +0100 Received: from [94.168.156.45] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MtjYd-0002O3-5R for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:56:31 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:56:30 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295752@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ZFS on FreeBSD 7.2 Thread-Index: AcpDcIaozO01OInqRjOnUZ78eYIgDQ== From: "Graeme Dargie" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: ZFS on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:10:25 -0000 Hello all =20 I currently have machine with 6x500gb hdd`s running under ZFS RaidZ everything is working just fine, I have bought 2x3bay ICY Dock bays for this machine, my questions is do I have to make sure the drives go back on to the same sata ports as they are currently on or will ZFS sort it self out? =20 Regards =20 Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 19:27:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA6A1065676 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5798FC12 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18359 invoked by uid 399); 2 Oct 2009 19:27:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 2 Oct 2009 19:27:49 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4AC65427.6020107@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:27:35 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions regarding portmaster's man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:27:52 -0000 Christer Solskogen wrote: > Hi! > > The man page for portmaster say this: > Alternatively you could use portmaster -a -f -D to do an ``in place'' > update of your ports. If that process is interrupted for any reason you > can use portmaster -a -f -D -R to avoid rebuilding ports already rebuilt > on previous runs. However the first method (delete everything and rein- > stall) is preferred. > > I'm wondering why the first method is preferred. First before I forget, in general it's always a good idea to send a message to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org first if you're not sure what list to send it to, so you didn't do anything wrong here. On the other hand, if you have a question about a ports-related issue you should probably send it to freebsd-ports@freebsd.org where you are more likely to get a focused response. That said, there are a couple of answers to your question. Even though we try to be thorough with the ports system removing files after a port is deinstalled there are occasionally problems so if you've had a /usr/local populated with ports for a few years there is probably old cruft in there that it would be good to remove. The other answer is that doing an "in place" upgrade will inevitably end up with some ports compiled against old libs, which is not a good thing. Not to mention that there will likely be some dependencies left over on your system that you don't need. The method described in portmaster's man page encourages you to save a list of the "root" and "leaf" ports you're using. These are the ports that are not depended on by other ports, which generally means that they are the actual applications you're using (like firefox, etc.). By telling portmaster to install only these ports and letting the ports system handle the dependencies for the new conditions you're likely to get a cleaner upgrade. Those are the two main reasons. There are occasionally other reasons, such as the libusb problems with hal that people are experiencing after upgrades to 8.0 that just make "delete and reinstall" the cleaner option and the one that should be recommended most highly. hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 20:32:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAADF10656AA for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raymond.gibson@verizon.net) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDC08FC19 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avatar.gibson.net ([71.252.140.149]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW00BTLMD735I4@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:31:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Raymond Gibson To: Bernt Hansson Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:31:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> <4AC5AC3A.7050009@bah.homeip.net> In-reply-to: <4AC5AC3A.7050009@bah.homeip.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Message-id: <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:32:24 -0000 On Friday 02 October 2009 02:31:06 am Bernt Hansson wrote: > Raymond Gibson said the following on 2009-10-01 22:33: > > I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using a USB printer on > > my host machine. My host was built with as a minimal FreeBSD 7.2-Release > > install. I added ezjail and created two jails. Both jails are working and > > I can login to both using ssh. > > > > On the host i did the following: > > > > I added this to /etc/devfs.conf > > own ultp0 root:cups > > perm ultp0 0660 > > > > > > I added this to /etc/devfs.rules > > > > # Printers > > add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > > > [devfsrules_jail_PrintServer=10] > > add path ltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > add path ultp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > add path unltp[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups > > Something doesn't seem right with you devfs.rules file. > Mine looks like this: > > [system=10] > add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups > add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups > add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups > > > After a reboot, I can access the administration website. > > I added a printer and allowed remote access. > > > >>From administration page - printer status: > > > > Description: HP Photosmart 7350 > > Location: Home > > Printer Driver: HP PhotoSmart 7350 Foomatic/hpijs (recommended) > > Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. > > Device URI: usb:/dev/ulpt0 > > > > > > Wen printing a test page from administration page i get permission > > denied. HPPhotosmart7350 (Default Printer) "Unable to open device file > > "/dev/ulpt0": Permission denied" > > > > How do i solve this? > > > > Please let me know if more information is needed. > > > > I thank you for your time and help in advance. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I changed /etc/devfs.rules, but no luck. i change permissions on /dev/ulpt0 (in the jail) and now i can print a test page from Cups administration page. PrintServer# ls -l /dev | grep ulpt0 crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 79 Oct 2 10:51 ulpt0 PrintServer# chmod 666 /dev/ulpt0 PrintServer# ls -l /dev | grep ulpt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 79 Oct 2 10:51 ulpt0 i tried to set 666 for devfs.rules & devfs.conf in both host and jail, but that didn't work. any more ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 20:34:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAE11065698 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE31F8FC35 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yx0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 1so1558574yxe.3 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1/XY551Yavgl/6HReBMX+dJ/91rTh4pRrDTHJtIZU9s=; b=mtbJPjGs56055AtsYXgCTgTD8o1uZ3Ia7CvwVSeSKiDii8uEatd4houiuAb+2/3nWB g3fMa08YhYciH7QPzerUCSIh+D4wTO3DU+QsJPkHdZnQgvOSJid1Ep/ez/tU79ahFHoW Tdn+jDlhRVyfi4xIi/WGYT7ABb9eKCrT7R1ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=DSH6SxvLzs5ZIWfbua9r4gtGLDoFs739WV4ToDwqhmSDR1aE1rm4S2pzJsj7jfcKHZ B5fRYsoCdbC6kINlcUwdigtwxu50sMEKgrW1hL4mPMQvlT5MMcaOsV9eQfbpLt2rD15d PqM6NrYHhQm4+nWh43JXdVypRy5e0Pp7yH6Rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.90.3 with SMTP id s3mr3442698anl.23.1254515695547; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1e3f5d680910020629x52510b74o5763c6c25eea8787@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e3f5d680910020629x52510b74o5763c6c25eea8787@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:34:55 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Troy Kocher Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ezjail, Perl, upgrading & best practices advise please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:34:56 -0000 On 10/2/09, Troy Kocher wrote: > All, > Couple issues: > 1) I need some understanding on how to deploy and upgrade perl > properly in this jailed environment. > 2) I need some help on my current tangle of Perl library complaints > > Issue #1: In a jailed environment how many installations of perl are > recommended (ie 1 host system 2 basejail 3 each jail) ? My sense > would be that one on the host and one in the basejail, would be the > most efficient. If that is the case how do I upgrade the perl in the > basejail? How do I handle different versions of perl installed in > each of the jails? Your questions indicate you setup a base jail and nullfs mount the points to the other jails. Although it is written it can be done, I have to ask why you decided to do it this way? base distribution only takes about 128MB of disk space, and nearly nothing for RAM (by today's disk and RAM sizes). I recommend each jail have their own world installed, preferrably the same world because since the jails share the world with the hosts' kernel, and world+kernel must be kept in sync, setup a host on release, and all jails on a release too. I'm currently experimenting (for fun) a -stable host, and -release jails, which is unsupported. It gets a tad annoying when you manage multiple jails that it has no concept of already built ports and to use them, so I find myself cancelling out of a lot of builds to install the package created from another jail. > Issue #2: My lack of understanding has me in a mess currently. My > host environment is using (perl-threaded-5.8.9_3), in jail #1 I have > (perl-5.8.9_3) when I try to use cpan here is what happens: > > jail1#perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' > Terminal does not support AddHistory. > cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.9301) > ReadLine support available (maybe install Bundle::CPAN or Bundle::CPANxxl?) > print() on closed filehandle FOUT at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 193. > readline() on closed filehandle FIN at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 301. > print() on closed filehandle FOUT at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/Term/ReadLine.pm line 203. > Terminal does not support GetHistory. > Lockfile removed. Can't comment on this, seems a missing dependency and other problems. > In Jail #2 another issue. . : > > jail2#pkg_info |grep perl > mod_perl2-2.0.3_3,3 Embeds a Perl interpreter in the Apache2 server > p5-DBI-1.60.1 The perl5 Database Interface. Required for DBD::* > modules > p5-Devel-Symdump-2.0800 A perl5 module that dumps symbol names or the > symbol table > p5-Error-0.17012 Perl module to provide Error/exception support for perl: > Er > p5-GD-2.35_1 A perl5 interface to Gd Graphics Library version2 > p5-GD-Graph-1.44.01_1 Graph plotting module for perl5 > p5-MIME-Tools-5.426,2 A set of perl5 modules for MIME > p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.19,1 Perl subroutines that would be nice to > have in the perl cor > p5-Storable-2.18 Persistency for perl data structures > p5-Term-ReadKey-2.30 A perl5 module for simple terminal control > p5-Test-Harness-3.10 Run perl standard test scripts with statistics > p5-Test-Simple-0.80 Basic utilities for writing tests in perl > p5-Time-HiRes-1.9712,1 A perl5 module implementing High resolution > time, sleep, an > perl-5.8.8_1 > > then I try cpan > jail2# perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.4" not found, required by > "perl" A jail that has been updated from (for example) a 6.x release to a 7.x release with ports from 6.x will look for the shared libraries from 6.x, when 7.x has them updated and possibly renamed. Has jail2 been updated? > Troubleshooting this complaint on jail2 I discovered the time stamp on > the host was different than the time stamp on the basejail. > what time stamp? of what? where? > > Anyway I'm puzzled, and I'm not really sure where to go from here. . > I'd appreciate any help.. > > Thanks > Troy It won't be a "do these and you'll be fixed" - given the initial post. I'm trying to gain more information before I can help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 20:50:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8A71065670 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 250578FC25 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27375 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2009 20:50:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254516645; bh=xUy4lkuw7Ba0tXNNcPi7E+iC8NntpBu0TQF54r5yY/E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SouNRjr3hoNYkvORyXLLr/5gxpLH4aZvhVtynEeDott1L3PkJwZI6R8RYtTi4OvrnTCykzumE+fabJpuatiw7lmnjkN9S1QwWOMqKX8+/v+opw9R9OYQlGmhhRYrrV5kBGqcOk43i/k1OZIClbGyWeRad+Qws+T9nPWVeXAt8z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:50:46 -0000 So I did find a thread about this and the used the following solution to fi= x the problem:=0A=0A- Edit /usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile and add the follow= ing line to the configuration arguments:=0A--with-pcre-regex=0A=0ASo your M= akefile should have:=0ACONFIGURE_ARGS=3D \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-layout=3DGNU \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-config-file-scan-dir=3D${PREFIX}/etc/php \=0A=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --disable-all \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-libxml \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-libxml-dir=3D${LOCALBASE} \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-pcre-regex \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-reflection \=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --program-prefix=3D""=0A=0A=0A=0AAflatoon=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A= =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Aflatoon Aflatooni =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, October 2, 2009 1= 1:45:08 AM=0ASubject: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2=0A=0AHi,=0AI am getting the= following error in php5:=0A=0AInternal pcre_fullinfo() error=0A=0AI have t= ried rebuilding, but it doesn't seem to help. =0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0 = =A0 =A0 =0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr= eebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:09:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C76106568D for ; 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Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:09:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6201873e0909300607u7bdbe45aw91972f253299e853@mail.gmail.com> <200910010116.n911Gmk2024725@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:09:45 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Grant Peel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netwroked Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:09:47 -0000 On 10/2/09, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I now have a quote from Dell, for a 4 TB, RAID5 NX3000 NAS. > > It comes pre configured with Windows Storage Server 2008 Standard Edition. > Dell support assures me it will be compatable with NFS on FreeBSD, but if we > are not happy with it we can wipe it and install whatever software we want > ... FreeNAS for example. > > Questions: > > Has anyone used/using Windows Storage Server 2008 with FreeBSD clients? Is > there any compatability loss? (NSF). > > Is anyone using this specific hardware? If so, comments please! > > -Grant I decline Dell if I were to make the choice. They support SOME linux, and Windows on the hardware. Microsoft has made "Services for UNIX" that Dell tends to install on their Windows NAS devices. iXsystems makes servers, storage, and everything else with a native BSD host, at a reasonable cost. They back PC-BSD development so they are familiar with the FreeBSD name. Will the Dell with WS2008 Storage and FreeBSD talk? They should. Are they reliable? That's questionable. I don't expect anyone to share my views, but it was asked for comments. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:22:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36176106568D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75798FC14 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1293440bwz.43 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Uqi2XAoAu633M/5SjmtK8dnWXtPPbgiq5L/4zd/bQVA=; b=iPBLhO9iRn4z42PRlCxPBthN/2S98kfyjANAx8/oTMsE81NVP2jrtYhPge0KO0EKlO RW+AL9JUuoqBGEobJrqimWKw+kTn8ZVHKlfoZx9vr6HRkoKtRCOqYgyz/EZZy+UkFFAY ELg/R5HlH7t46g1OTBIKv+jvvCTjcV2GAE7jY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OIjdE/v495zetXaABV3wBEAX1YOv9Mqtv2KqW86B2yZA8WVkiFzamNU07CEPbtlg2y EYXoB4qIOmr+VwqQAtW9Vfs+qnB/cd5qaPYnJRiWpwUbhTBQUmQm4oHsSObsTLhFCSCn eIWPFNtT+K+1CILy+AwSZtP0omigK4BylSgl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.143.79 with SMTP id t15mr1286805fau.26.1254518568806; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:22:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <400246.26602.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <71655.65913.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <400246.26602.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:22:48 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910021422x793e464s7fed54c4325fc182@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:50 -0000 Hi, On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni w= rote: > So I did find a thread about this and the used the following solution to = fix the problem: > > - Edit /usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile and add the following line to the co= nfiguration arguments: > --with-pcre-regex > > So your Makefile should have: > CONFIGURE_ARGS=3D \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-layout=3DGNU \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-config-file-scan-dir= =3D${PREFIX}/etc/php \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --disable-all \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-libxml \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-libxml-dir=3D${LOCAL= BASE} \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-pcre-regex \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-reflection \ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --program-prefix=3D"" > Alternatively, installing devel/php5-pcre should do the trick. HTH. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:32:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19828106566B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB578FC21 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (106.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.106]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3F367633322; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E2CBBB4; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:32:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:32:23 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091002233223.4e957d44@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> References: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> <4AC5AC3A.7050009@bah.homeip.net> <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Raymond Gibson Subject: Re: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:32:28 -0000 Le Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:31:55 -0500, Raymond Gibson a =E9crit : > On Friday 02 October 2009 02:31:06 am Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Raymond Gibson said the following on 2009-10-01 22:33: > > > I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using a USB printer on > > > my host machine. My host was built with as a minimal FreeBSD > > > 7.2-Release install. I added ezjail and created two jails. Both > > > jails are working and I can login to both using ssh. > i tried to set 666 for devfs.rules & devfs.conf in both host and > jail, but that didn't work.=20 >=20 > any more ideas? How do you start your jail? For a jail, the devfs rule applied is the one specified for the jail in /etc/rc.conf, something like=20 jail_jailname_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail" # devfs ruleset to apply to jail Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:34:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF951065676 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8988FC1B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (unknown [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E19923554; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AC66DAC.3040206@cyberleo.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:16:28 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Dargie References: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295752@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295752@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:34:02 -0000 Graeme Dargie wrote: > Hello all > > I currently have machine with 6x500gb hdd`s running under ZFS RaidZ > everything is working just fine, I have bought 2x3bay ICY Dock bays for > this machine, my questions is do I have to make sure the drives go back > on to the same sata ports as they are currently on or will ZFS sort it > self out? Before you remove the drives, export the zpool; after moving them, import the zpool. This will scan all connected devices and put everything where it needs to be. If you forget to export before shuffling the devices and zfs complains, just export and import the pool and it should sort itself out. -------- freenas:~# zpool list NAME SIZE USED AVAIL CAP HEALTH ALTROOT data 931G 630G 301G 67% ONLINE - freenas:~# zpool export data freenas:~# zpool list no pools available freenas:~# zpool import pool: data id: 12298073319825187638 state: ONLINE action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier. config: data ONLINE raidz1 ONLINE ad0 ONLINE ad4 ONLINE ad6 ONLINE ad8 ONLINE ad10 ONLINE freenas:~# zpool import data freenas:~# zpool list NAME SIZE USED AVAIL CAP HEALTH ALTROOT data 931G 630G 301G 67% ONLINE - -------- -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:44:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AE0106566B; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B339F8FC28; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4F4888C0A7; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:44:01 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Dmitry Marakasov Message-ID: <20091002214401.GA4339@lonesome.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:46:18 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , ion-general@lists.berlios.de, Erwin Lansing , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:44:01 -0000 On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 05:32:31PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > Do you honestly think the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, > say, me suing, well, us? Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. And I believe reading the entire thread when this first came up supports my claim. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:48:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47258106568D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3C8FC17 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f197.google.com with SMTP id 35so3748385ywh.7 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PdOT2FAd9G90yNF//hh1qYigIRd1fgnfa1Yx3c3aeaU=; b=P+2dogzS08+ViM3R/AFXz6hycapgIQ2oLWAJkTIUe09LNzjNNJ9l+kP8jRu3obiSxG VvD9rkXq9VYAClAAe/gTxlg7KQRZ8glf+0qOxqUY0lFaRUtzoTrXuAHWyepT+ZBMsuNR 8Ufeo9psLSVkTJwbowSMFbjxgooq1kiFh0/HQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LvYF7602tXOXetAlvq2DSrlSMGL+eDogIAePy9AH2WZ+fbuZBG+oWhsIk+GDhZp4wM YmRfL3MSPpntvD5vrz93hI0PEB8sq5FvArILwqw3FmjzftbSRiQxiDXlghhyHIcqtFl/ vsJBKAe0+y/x+IZdO+yw3SFulsU0VcB2Dl0Og= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.180.33 with SMTP id h33mr3437422anp.155.1254520129546; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091001115823.0891f9e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <176FD00A-5791-4D3E-B7F3-D5F0A0AE2037@todoo.biz> <20091001073919.9e05d056.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091001154345.GN29215@dan.emsphone.com> <20091001115823.0891f9e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:48:49 -0700 Message-ID: From: mojo fms To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Swap and memory optimization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:48:50 -0000 I would just bump the ram to 2gigs or 4 if it supports it and call it good. You should be fine. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Dan Nelson : > > > In the last episode (Oct 01), Bill Moran said: > > > bsd wrote: > > > > I have a FBSD 6.4p7 box that I use as a mail server - 1Go RAM - RAID1 > > > > Works quite well. > > > > > > > > As I plan to put 100 more mail accounts soon on the server I was > > > > wondering if the memory & swap was ok on the server considering these > > > > figures: > > > > > > > > last pid: 18956; load averages: 0.04, 0.11, 0.05 up 19+08:36:23 > 09:53:38 > > > > 125 processes: 1 running, 124 sleeping > > > > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% > idle > > > > Mem: 499M Active, 70M Inact, 362M Wired, 41M Cache, 111M Buf, 20M > Free > > > > Swap: 2000M Total, 160M Used, 1840M Free, 8% Inuse > > > > > > > > Though It looks good to me - the server swaps a bit (between 8 to > 14%) > > > > and there is not much memory left. > > > > > > Looks like the server would run more smoothly with a bit more RAM. At > > > least an additional 256M, I would think, but considering the price of > RAM, > > > you might as well just up it to 2G. > > > > The amount of used swap is much less important than whether you are > actively > > swapping (if there are In/Out values on the Swap line in top, or if > "vmstat > > 1" shows nonzero values in the pi/po columns). 160MB of used swap is > fine > > if it's just unused daemons (getty, idle webserver, etc). More memory > can > > never hurt, but it doesn't seem like it's urgently needed here. > > I don't know about that, Dan. Especially considering it's a mail server > he's talking about, there's no RAM left for disk cache on that machine. > > We've seen performance gains on our mail server by putting obscene > amounts of RAM into it. After a bit of use, FreeBSD ends up having 6.5G > of inactive RAM, which I assume is cache of mailboxes. The result is that > while watching gstat, the amount of disk reads is very low (since a lot > of data is already in RAM) and the IO is available to do fast writes when > new mail comes in. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Who knew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:49:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FCD106568D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549F88FC12 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:49:00 -0000 2009/10/2 Graeme Dargie > Hello all > > > > I currently have machine with 6x500gb hdd`s running under ZFS RaidZ > everything is working just fine, I have bought 2x3bay ICY Dock bays for > this machine, my questions is do I have to make sure the drives go back > on to the same sata ports as they are currently on or will ZFS sort it > self out? > > > > Regards > > > > Graeme > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > it should sort itself out as the drives get labelled similar to geom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 21:51:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA38106568F for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:51:16 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A> From: Glen Barber =0A> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni =0A> Cc: free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 5:22:48 PM=0A> = Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2=0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> On Fri, Oct 2,= 2009 at 8:50 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:=0A> > So I did find a thread ab= out this and the used the following solution to fix =0A> the problem:=0A> >= =0A> > - Edit /usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile and add the following line to t= he =0A> configuration arguments:=0A> > --with-pcre-regex=0A> >=0A> > So you= r Makefile should have:=0A> > CONFIGURE_ARGS=3D \=0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-layout=3DGNU \=0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-config-file-scan-dir=3D${PREFIX}/etc/php= \=0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --disable-all \=0A> = > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-libxml \=0A> > =A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-libxml-dir=3D${LOCALBASE}= \=0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --with-pcre-regex \= =0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --enable-reflection \= =0A> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --program-prefix=3D""= =0A> >=0A> =0A> Alternatively, installing devel/php5-pcre should do the tri= ck.=0A> =0A> HTH.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Glen Barber=0A=0AThat is the first thing= that I tried but it wouldn't work and therefore my original question. =0A= =0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 22:05:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C617106568D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raymond.gibson@verizon.net) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4CA8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avatar.gibson.net ([71.252.140.149]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KQW00KXEQOLVW96@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:05:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Raymond Gibson To: Patrick Lamaiziere Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:05:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> <20091002233223.4e957d44@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-reply-to: <20091002233223.4e957d44@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Message-id: <200910021705.08996.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:05:20 -0000 On Friday 02 October 2009 04:32:23 pm Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:31:55 -0500, > > Raymond Gibson a =E9crit : > > On Friday 02 October 2009 02:31:06 am Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > Raymond Gibson said the following on 2009-10-01 22:33: > > > > I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using a USB printer on > > > > my host machine. My host was built with as a minimal FreeBSD > > > > 7.2-Release install. I added ezjail and created two jails. Both > > > > jails are working and I can login to both using ssh. > > > > i tried to set 666 for devfs.rules & devfs.conf in both host and > > jail, but that didn't work. > > > > any more ideas? > > How do you start your jail? For a jail, the devfs rule applied is the > one specified for the jail in /etc/rc.conf, something like > > jail_jailname_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail" # devfs ruleset to > apply to jail > > Regards. i'm using ezjail. ezjail is started from /etc/rc.conf with ezjail_enable=3D"YES". i thought the following would be read into the jail's configuration. /usr/local/etc/ezjail/PrintServer export jail_PrintServer_hostname=3D"PrintServer" export jail_PrintServer_ip=3D"192.168.1.52" export jail_PrintServer_rootdir=3D"/usr/jails/PrintServer" export jail_PrintServer_exec=3D"/bin/sh /etc/rc" export jail_PrintServer_mount_enable=3D"YES" export jail_PrintServer_devfs_enable=3D"YES" export jail_PrintServer_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail_PrintServer" export jail_PrintServer_procfs_enable=3D"YES" export jail_PrintServer_fdescfs_enable=3D"YES" export jail_PrintServer_image=3D"" export jail_PrintServer_imagetype=3D"" export jail_PrintServer_attachparams=3D"" export jail_PrintServer_attachblocking=3D"" export jail_PrintServer_forceblocking=3D"" i put PrintServer_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail_PrintServer" into my rc.= conf=20 and rebooted. no luck, i still get permission denied. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 22:27:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32ED1065676 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mail.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CB48FC13 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id n92MHcgm018910 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:17:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <200910022217.n92MHcgm018910@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sysinstal and setting up the BSD partitions inside an FDISK 'slice'. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:27:54 -0000 The 'sysinstall' BSD partition-table and mount point editor appears to be lacking in some features that are highly desirable to people building complex configurations with the O/S spread across multiple drives. For the 'usual' scenarios -- especially with modern high-capacity drives -- the case can be made, fairly convincingly, for using only a small number of filesystems (i.e., possibly as few as 2) on a large drive. There are, however, specialized (i.e., at least 'somewhat' esoteric :) situations where it _is_ desirable to use a much larger number of filesystems. Situations were you need to control the allocation of partition letters, _and_ 'where' on the slice that partiton 'lives'. Just like being able to edit the 'mount point', without deleting/re-creating the partition, it would be _very_ helpful to have a function that allowed one to change _which_ partition a given chunk of disk was named. That is, cursor to '{controller}d1s2g', say, and be able to 'change' the final character to any of the partitions (abdefh) that are not currently allocated any space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 22:30:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E50106568B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mail.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1528FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id n92MUU06019028 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <200910022230.n92MUU06019028@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel symbol table usage ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:30:31 -0000 Building an old-style monolithic kernel, for a minimalist installation, the symbol table file ends up being many times larger than the kernel itself. I'd like to move it off to secondary storage, _if_ that won't break anyting. Obviously, for crash dump analysis, one needs to have it available, but I'd be doing that on a different machine, with much larger storage available. Thus the question -- does anything in a system that _doesn't_ do *any* module loading (loadable module support is _not_ in the kernel) need the symbol table? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 22:12:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD251065670; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.ipv6.droso.net [IPv6:2001:6c8:6:c:20d:56ff:fe6f:f935]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067A68FC19; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F34AC1CC47; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:12:38 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20091002221238.GN26407@droso.net> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <20091002214401.GA4339@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Vx/N56bIaYnO6ICL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091002214401.GA4339@lonesome.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:35:45 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Albert Shih , Dmitry Marakasov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:12:40 -0000 --Vx/N56bIaYnO6ICL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 05:32:31PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > > Do you honestly think the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, > > say, me suing, well, us? >=20 > Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. And I believe reading the entire > thread when this first came up supports my claim. >=20 I've expressed my concern and agreement with Mark on this topic earlier, but I'd like to reitterate the problem. From the earlier mails with the author and reading the new license, which is LGPL with, in legal terms, vaguely defined exceptions, we as the FreeBSD project have to err on the safe side and not add this software again unless the author explicitly and publicly retracts his earlier legal threats. This is not a case common sense but of legal terms, and given the fluffy formulation of the license, even in it's new form, it is unacceptable to be included in the ports tree. -erwin --=20 Erwin Lansing http://droso.org Prediction is very difficult especially about the future erwin@FreeBSD.org --Vx/N56bIaYnO6ICL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFKxnrWqy9aWxUlaZARAv8aAJ0aH4hvSovwIzUrnBih5UTTK65aaACeKzMK eqAF7UCGEUZ1dxZlhNRrsVU= =YWQL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Vx/N56bIaYnO6ICL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 23:03:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4449106566B; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raj@csub.edu) Received: from mh0.csub.edu (mh0.csub.edu [136.168.1.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B5B8FC0A; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [136.168.65.65] (strider.csub.edu [136.168.65.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by mh0.csub.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n92MiMoc010698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raj@csub.edu) Message-ID: <4AC68237.8070106@csub.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:44:07 -0700 From: Russell Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Shih References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=BD2750DF Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA89090FF1CBDB2CF29208C8" Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:03:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA89090FF1CBDB2CF29208C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I'm trying to compile=20 >=20 > http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html >=20 > on my FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 and didn't success.... >=20 > I would like to known if anyone can help me make ion work ? Maybe someo= ne > have the patch file for the system.mk ?=20 >=20 > Long time ago ion ports was kick off from the ports system because the = will > of the developper (please don't troll). I just saw the license just cha= nge > maybe now it's possible to put again ion in the ports system ?=20 >=20 > I would like to help for the ports but as you can see I unable to build= for > myself. >=20 I think most of us ion refugees have moved on to xmonad. While it isn't q= uite the same as ion, the xmonad developers don't have any philosophical issues supporting= xft and xinerama. The only gripe I have is the blasted Haskel config file. Arr! --=20 Russell A. Jackson Network Analyst California State University, Bakersfield --------------enigBA89090FF1CBDB2CF29208C8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkrGgjcACgkQq3dx2r0nUN/C9gCcDmGIa1qxqfTOd660apBMkVtv 6lMAniHTa4Es5rStPeAk6fXKIwhjdNf3 =YnTp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBA89090FF1CBDB2CF29208C8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 23:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311901065672 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83288FC1A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1636433fxm.36 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LRS/O95O5JvuXazD79xZiymstmCUnMRBYxlDO+6rhjo=; b=u7kadP+dprX5fatoGiOFZGx7kOUtOHgtFr+gV8EGTGu7DaiZYbDmDInWDpbkZpVSVQ ksd6MYepU5I5I8He56SdPxgrBsaTJr2wOklTEuRSjIP7u9EGjFqyyvmLOkKAofQS8aTZ qtQJJGa1gfISX7qtMFEUOLND32Boc73VfDHdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QcyNDCCGisWQd1WbzH26HcktKz6Wedf8ny8qzSmEUOla4ikW4jGbqxEP5iGERVuocr kNFl3VAI/0qHQvw536+tn9INMKoXp41yhw9H3ApgQH9OIVHDDB8CqOWnqdblzFv2gN75 6qkw6t6caziIA+AgSnVD/lPu9zJZh1dYIhcTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.23.80 with SMTP id q16mr1357327fab.8.1254527079755; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <580966.22805.qm@web56203.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <71655.65913.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <400246.26602.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910021422x793e464s7fed54c4325fc182@mail.gmail.com> <580966.22805.qm@web56203.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:44:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310910021644n35cd9602l1798819be5be72de@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:44:41 -0000 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > > That is the first thing that I tried but it wouldn't work and therefore my original question. > True, but you didn't say what you tried rebuilding. :-) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 00:20:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F12D106568F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA5B8FC24 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o0BM1c0011ZMdJ4AE0Lk34; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:20:44 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o0Tk1c0041f6R9u8c0TkGM; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:27:46 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:20:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:20:40 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091003002040.GC3819@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <4AC68237.8070106@csub.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC68237.8070106@csub.edu> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:20:44 -0000 On Fri 02 Oct 2009 at 15:44:07 PDT Russell Jackson wrote: > >I think most of us ion refugees have moved on to xmonad. While it isn't quite the same as >ion, the xmonad developers don't have any philosophical issues >supporting xft and xinerama. The only gripe I have is the blasted >Haskel config file. Arr! FWIW, there are some other tiling window managers in the portstree that are worth considering: dwm awesome wmii musca i3 ratpoison stumpwm And I probably missed a few more. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 00:27:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8B1065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milo@cyberlifelabs.com) Received: from smtp.cyberlifelabs.com (197-39.84.64.smtp.cyberlifelabs.com [64.84.39.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C84D8FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dev.bellingham.cyberlifelabs.com ([71.227.219.222]) (AUTH: LOGIN milo@cyberlifelabs.com) by mail.geo.cyberlifelabs.com with esmtp; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:18:03 -0700 Message-Id: <9BF45D7B-D9ED-4B09-8C6E-0ED849260601@cyberlifelabs.com> From: Milo Hyson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:17:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: tar acting strange with -T X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:27:16 -0000 tar seems to be misbehaving when used with the -T switch. If I run the following: find somebigdir > /tmp/file-list tar -cjf /tmp/tarball.tar.bz2 -T /tmp/file-list I get no errors. However, when I go to unpack it: tar -xyf /tmp/tarball.tar.bz2 I get several errors about files not found in the archive. It's always the same files. I've checked to ensure there's nothing special about them. If I try to create the same tarball without using a file-list: tar -cjf /tmp/tarball.tar.bz2 somebigdir I get no errors during unpacking. Running find on this unpacked set confirms the file-list matches exactly that which I'm trying to use with the -T switch. Unless I'm overlooking something obvious, I can only conclude that tar's handling of -T is funky. Any suggestions? I'm using a fresh installation of 7.2-RELEASE on amd64 installed from an ISO. -- Milo Hyson Chief Scientist CyberLife Labs, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 00:46:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF0A1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from qwillpen@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6B38FC20 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY115-W35 ([65.54.250.135]) by bay0-omc1-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:34:55 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.65.192.173] From: Fuzzy Zabriskie To: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:34:56 -0400 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2009 00:34:55.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[54712210:01CA43C1] Subject: 7.2 Sysinstall choices -- existing multi-boot (based on Win7 RC's boot mgr) system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:46:54 -0000 Currently=2C I have Win/XP in slice 1=2C no slice 2=2C Win 7 RC in slice 3 = and Acronis' hidden part in slice 4. I have unallocated space after slice 1 (about 45gb) I wanted to use for Fre= eBSD.=20 =20 I told sysinstall to create a slice (in the unallocated space)=2C then crea= te FreeBSD partitions in it for /=2C paging=2C /usr=2C /var=2C /tmp & /home. I'm not sure what I'm supp= osed to tell it about boot managers though? Right now the MBR points to Acronis' recovery slice=2C which boots = to Win 7's boot manager=2C it=20 defaults to Win/XP. When I said do nothing sysinstall marked the new slice = bootable=2C and FreeBSD does=20 boot to a text menu with Beastie on it. But=2C that doesn't give access to = the OS's in slice 1 and 3? =20 if I tell it to use the default boot manager=2C (booteasy?)=2C will it offe= r at least access to what's=20 currently in the master boot record & slice 2 (FreeBSD)? Or do I need a way= to tell Win7's boot=20 manager about FreeBSD in slice 2? =20 =20 =20 Thanks =20 = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 00:52:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA551065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsilvaleandro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BD38FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so4354705ywh.7 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YKYPfKFBX++rP4+kNvvomXkx0W8mLrNEGjLya2RFtps=; b=RiTilWuRKyfLFLPX+2x5KgQaI7stuwaV0CCpXSVC73AXUYfiucc/b3tr198pwv5SMS wzqoVbfOi/uUc3veMxcXVKHCjlW1idp32GPukXizcb2kWp78UGZdeaBd9YFMumgzhEx7 akj6TUOWsjU6vTWN43zwHOJ2ivQKInS/tOTZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GQbhJb+1AtRN61YTaTW5PMnLevUYgRk6ZDe7Mk+zcTuEt4fk3/ASZFFbOJxxIG/1Ys IVDhqb97ZsMz+XQ7TcPyy6msu1EDxYYIzZN7VRWMcp08+M7KtXbELBv/Qobwht+pVAzC bb5gDfE7urhMwmEq0cDMyoHVhoMLZhxSKebjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.174.40 with SMTP id w40mr5503619ybe.123.1254529553493; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:25:53 -0300 Message-ID: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> From: Leandro F Silva To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:52:28 -0000 Hey guys, Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 01:01:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7FA1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE448FC17 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so648268ewy.36 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=urdpYDJPBdAq8BoaRO0RGUXkvLJLtQRPGc0L+WaWc+Q=; b=dwm4++Ds36hawGJ+jiSc4F5mEL4sk/ipBS5tIQhoIuE2B2Ll0xBUp7FjH0F3emMIF3 OaDknKDQbuKFwbEn5VV6XMkyiC4mpetJ0CLC0mGA1woYpkI6pNLrM0pyaPWKtorfbzMt XerQh5Z0hGr/2SPrxxo7fY0LipozteRu9y518= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fn4+FKoQ9vjwTNl6ZaXHSOwusKoYlKL9ksFeerXTIfi4gKcNK7Y1O2MX+r23vlAvyC 9cGilNV7IN4AHPq8xiXLwRKzyRT4kglbFIvjQ9S3KlDE1Dx1OZurLXvKLrWdIFuUurae 0EgLQ8FKQOX4WHmRtoa7sQuF3FF6ciprDbDQA= Received: by 10.210.95.3 with SMTP id s3mr3987467ebb.47.1254531697834; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm355596eyh.0.2009.10.02.18.01.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:01:34 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leandro F Silva References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:01:39 -0000 Good luck the community has tried for years to get it and adobe seems to not care Leandro F Silva wrote: > Hey guys, > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 01:11:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335051065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s-vCphDXbD1el3g1yehvppbGxbqSlSgW06_7tys6DsJxRUYJM66NyZ67@bounce.linkedin.com) Received: from mail16-a-aa.linkedin.com (mail16-a-aa.linkedin.com [64.74.98.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042768FC15 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:11:14 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: s=prod; d=linkedin.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Sender:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:X-LinkedIn-fbl; b=Pzcgh9XYB01BqEa3f0fB05n3596C7jwxywzFdsqGzknTbQatImfy9CGL x+y3pYZB9IyKo4mIT7zwIPZt68RCiiDRdTPhokH6KLgCQahrSI627fcg6 dFO5mHiGWPipz6d; Sender: messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kayven Riese To: Message-ID: <1637724990.13987.1254530559012.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn07.prod> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-LinkedIn-fbl: vCphDXbD1el3g1yehvppbGxbqSlSgW06_7tys6DsJxRUYJM66NyZ67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:11:15 -0000 LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Kayven Accept Kayven Riese's invite: https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/775818291/54SmrjKS/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 01:42:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE21106568F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sisson.j@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EDE8FC16 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1684139fxm.36 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:42:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0sseLhyL7APgYeBOn5d/t/2KZFFgeL+r4SvyLYG4wWg=; b=kRSSqUaWJi1c4MNFxDyRR+ZXBPWo2jtXETp0mJF7WAbQtJN4WpcZIPc93i8hB6tpgO vqO780SNNVvIQ/FZdv12QRY//tdomPr8re5a5RwP4do+UiX+4GKJHQa8fw/XtRC/TvpP R8F1CTQLq2OT1W01xrTc1OmuMyu1QK1U9cVsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xIG+CvapQaTwdPURQ2lHyEEfwtnwFR7J36iMiGbb9DpymKmNvNANYEdWMCRdDa3tDC rPWwQ6m5UIOcZ1llewOJYNvtahofMMUNUCEAedRL6o8qHx8MhQkAh2aQoBslLEpZO5ms tZ4ef8H+DwOmznBIeAXR2H/EVDJQhgsYzZ0gQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.134.221 with SMTP id a29mr319404hba.20.1254532507668; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:15:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:15:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> From: J Sisson To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Leandro F Silva , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:42:45 -0000 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Good luck the community has tried for years to get it and adobe seems to > not care > > > Leandro F Silva wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. >> >> We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D >> >> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 >> > And if enough people petition Microsoft, we can get them to release Windows 7 source under the GPL. Reality called...your request to ignore it was denied. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 03:36:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B16106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0204.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899478FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 57D6F130AE1B; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:36:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, e9dd227900c17971, 944facfeb153b4f0, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org:kline@thought.org, RULES_HIT:355:379:472:541:564:599:601:945:960:966:967:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2196:2198:2199:2200:2378:2393:2525:2553:2560:2568:2629:2682:2685:2687:2691:2857:2859:2861:2900:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3000:3022:3027:3354:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4321:4385:4605:4860:5007:6114:6119:6238:7576:7652:7679:7875:7914:8501:8599:8985:9010:9025:9036:9121:9388:9545, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-Session-Marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3238 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6682103093.direcpc.com [66.82.103.93]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf09.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 03:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: From: Chris To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20091002154838.GA9446@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:35:46 -0700 References: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> <20091002154838.GA9446@thought.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:36:09 -0000 On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: >> On 2 Oct 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about >> "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 278, Issue 10": >> >>> Message: 28 >>> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:22:45 -0700 >>> From: Gary Kline >>> Subject: NO ONE knows?? >>> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >>> Message-ID: <20091001192241.GA5597@thought.org> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> >>> so ==nobody== know how to get espeak working with the high-quality >>> voices? hard to believe on this list... >> >> I use espeak, but have never tried to use any other than the stock >> voice, it works just fine. I suspect most other folks have the same >> experience. >> >> I use espeak to verbalize warnings and errors from XYMON on the main >> server which sits next to me, since I'm not always looking at email. >> > > > What I'm looking for is how to use the ``better than the > default voices''; there are several english languages that > are fairly natural sounding. Nothing I've googled explain > using the quality voices for FreeBSD. > > gary Gary, You should post this on the sourceforge forum for eSpeak. I looked and it appears the developer himself responds to questions people have. http://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/forums Chris > > >>> gary >> >> >> -- >> DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor >> Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research >> http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public > Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/ > index.php > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 05:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3003F1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.odonnell@shaw.ca) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012C28FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 04:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd4ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.136]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 22:31:27 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=KZUnyafJeRIA:10 a=VS9KpOasJCojx0UlWj6Qrw==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=SIORbCCbvmEKeHX-atoA:9 a=b2xTswpiCE8z5JZMWQ0A:7 a=BEG6y1Lmqg8vC6A9p2sy42oIh8cA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO kashima.localnet) ([68.145.47.142]) by pd4ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 22:31:27 -0600 From: "Mark O'Donnell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:31:28 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RC1; KDE/4.3.1; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910022231.28732.m.odonnell@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: 7.2 Sysinstall choices -- existing multi-boot (based on Win7 RC's boot mgr) system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:00:00 -0000 > Currently, I have Win/XP in slice 1, no slice 2, Win 7 RC in slice 3 and > Acronis' hidden part in slice 4. I have unallocated space after slice 1 > (about 45gb) I wanted to use for FreeBSD. > > I told sysinstall to create a slice (in the unallocated space), then create > FreeBSD partitions in it for /, paging, /usr, /var, /tmp & /home. I'm not > sure what I'm supposed to tell it about boot managers though? Right now > the MBR points to Acronis' recovery slice, which boots to Win 7's boot > manager, it defaults to Win/XP. When I said do nothing sysinstall marked > the new slice bootable, and FreeBSD does boot to a text menu with Beastie > on it. But, that doesn't give access to the OS's in slice 1 and 3? The default Windows MBR will simply just boot the active slice. When you created your FreeBSD slice it was automatically marked active. > if I tell it to use the default boot manager, (booteasy?), will it offer at > least access to what's currently in the master boot record & slice 2 > (FreeBSD)? Or do I need a way to tell Win7's boot manager about FreeBSD in > slice 2? > boot0 (aka BootEasy) will ask you what slice to boot from. If you've already installed FreeBSD you can replace your current MBR with: boot0cfg -B ad0 Just make sure to replace ad0 with your actual hdd device name. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 05:03:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2BE106568B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-125.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-125.bluehost.com [67.222.38.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBABD8FC18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17731 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2009 05:03:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2009 05:03:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BoYothnd8Ojt0O2/uE0Mz9HoNSQexfq3uzByrGQz/8Mh8Ti8fPBhDn54j6mWhreJYLY3GQUm212kCiks42Z3oh3LVVH4V7U9TBJvhvKWoAu8096phS2yLc3GpzO1Qk9q; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtwmk-0006Ny-87 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:03:58 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:56:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:56:40 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:03:59 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 08:15:07PM -0500, J Sisson wrote: >=20 > And if enough people petition Microsoft, we can get them to release Windo= ws > 7 source under the GPL. >=20 > Reality called...your request to ignore it was denied. Actually, we *could*. The problem is the definition of "enough". I'm sure that if you got 100% of the Windows users in the world to do so, Microsoft top brass would be hard-pressed to avoid acquiescing. Meanwhile, I'm sure that if you got 1% to do so, it would raise some eyebrows at Microsoft, but utterly fail to get MS executives to put a moment's thought into making that kind of licensing change, except perhaps to laugh at it. The problem is figuring out the exact threshold, somewhere between 1% and 100%. In other words, to quote an old off-color joke: "We've already established you're a prostitute, my dear. Now we're just haggling over the price." --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrG2YgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVnzACdFx9zXgO0/NHhn7vJXVePCyge fuMAnRur+3srsC/dj+RKiMIfS7VLl6fk =cNAk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 05:28:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42CD106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EF58FC1E for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so746237ewy.36 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:28:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.8 with SMTP id f8mr538922wec.171.1254547709528; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:28:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> <20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:28:29 +0100 Message-ID: <5a3c8f450910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Lucian @ lastdot.org" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:28:30 -0000 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 08:15:07PM -0500, J Sisson wrote: >> >> And if enough people petition Microsoft, we can get them to release Wind= ows >> 7 source under the GPL. >> >> Reality called...your request to ignore it was denied. > > Actually, we *could*. =A0The problem is the definition of "enough". =A0I'= m > sure that if you got 100% of the Windows users in the world to do so, > Microsoft top brass would be hard-pressed to avoid acquiescing. > Meanwhile, I'm sure that if you got 1% to do so, it would raise some > eyebrows at Microsoft, but utterly fail to get MS executives to put a > moment's thought into making that kind of licensing change, except > perhaps to laugh at it. =A0The problem is figuring out the exact threshol= d, > somewhere between 1% and 100%. > > In other words, to quote an old off-color joke: > > =A0 =A0"We've already established you're a prostitute, my dear. =A0Now we= 're > =A0 =A0just haggling over the price." > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > Better pray for Theora's mass adoption on streaming sites :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 05:39:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2DE106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F29A8FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelca (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874611704F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Free BSD Questions list Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:19:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Torrent for 8.0 RC1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:39:10 -0000 Looking for 8.0 RC1 torrents and so far only found this one http://www.legittorrents.info/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=28d9970704ce aedddec8873d21b34d57cbb0b58d Are RCs not officially distributed through torrents? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 05:56:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9A1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B9D8FC14 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iph1.telenor.se (195.54.127.132) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AC25649001235CB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:56:55 +0200 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvlcAE6ExkpV44BwPGdsb2JhbACBUpkbAQEBATepQgiOZYJECIFgBIFSgkU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,499,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="51176846" Received: from c-7080e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.128.112]) by iph1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2009 07:56:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:56:53 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leandro F Silva References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:56:57 -0000 Leandro F Silva wrote: > Hey guys, > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Where do I vote to have them continue forever not creating a FreeBSD version of that crap? -- Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 07:50:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1083A1065672 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973FE8FC18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n937oM8A002756; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:50:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n937oM8A002756 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1254556224; bh=AcW0LBzi51igIn7UioeSl49ssOnCC0WpBajroaaC36E=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AC70238.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2003=20Oct=202009=2008:50:16=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20"Lucian=20@=20lastdot.org"=20 |CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Voting=20for =20a=20native=20i386/amd64=20flash=20player|References:=20<28f938b 10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com>=09<4AC6A26E. 9080405@gmail.com>=09<4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340 @mail.gmail.com>=09<20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra>=20<5a3c8f4 50910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To: =20<5a3c8f450910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com>|X -Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20 micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatu re"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig1CE424CF1F93C136DAA4542 6"; b=3l7VDBy/XfFMz7qo7ppXO5FuwKQXqb5oKvdun6ujFpjutcWDxNUntlb4QZgV7NQiL 3MwSBgtAU8v/8Ko+ubDxFvZznN4VpthoqwF9Wad6N/Ts0HczgnPUbvb7DXAaIyPAK7 Km7KI0nbqEzFUN+ZvuG75z6oR6HC0wckmfDZY424= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AC70238.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:50:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Lucian @ lastdot.org" References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> <20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra> <5a3c8f450910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5a3c8f450910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1CE424CF1F93C136DAA45426" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:50:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1CE424CF1F93C136DAA45426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lucian @ lastdot.org wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Chad Perrin wrote= : >> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 08:15:07PM -0500, J Sisson wrote: >>> And if enough people petition Microsoft, we can get them to release W= indows >>> 7 source under the GPL. >>> >>> Reality called...your request to ignore it was denied. >> Actually, we *could*. The problem is the definition of "enough". I'm= >> sure that if you got 100% of the Windows users in the world to do so, >> Microsoft top brass would be hard-pressed to avoid acquiescing. >> Meanwhile, I'm sure that if you got 1% to do so, it would raise some >> eyebrows at Microsoft, but utterly fail to get MS executives to put a >> moment's thought into making that kind of licensing change, except >> perhaps to laugh at it. The problem is figuring out the exact thresho= ld, >> somewhere between 1% and 100%. >> >> In other words, to quote an old off-color joke: >> >> "We've already established you're a prostitute, my dear. Now we're= >> just haggling over the price." >> >> -- >> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]= >> >=20 > Better pray for Theora's mass adoption on streaming sites :-) Google apparently favours HTML-5 as their future direction, rather than Flash. And where YouTube goes, the rest of the world will surely follow,= at least as far as Video streaming is concerned. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1CE424CF1F93C136DAA45426 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrHAj4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIytvQCfUhCvagyibAbaaMzEtkdt7V8Q 6NgAn3DdMNyZRH7M3z5Hj18lcIXuVJd1 =X2Iq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1CE424CF1F93C136DAA45426-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 08:10:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6261065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B62B8FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n938Aa8K071164; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:10:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4AC706F7.3030106@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:10:31 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raymond Gibson References: <200910011533.01028.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> <4AC5AC3A.7050009@bah.homeip.net> <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200910021531.55452.raymond.gibson@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail - unable to print from inside jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:10:49 -0000 Raymond Gibson said the following on 2009-10-02 22:31: >> Something doesn't seem right with you devfs.rules file. >> Mine looks like this: >> >> [system=10] >> add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups >> add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups >> add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups >> > > i change permissions on /dev/ulpt0 (in the jail) and now i can print a test > page from Cups administration page. > > PrintServer# ls -l /dev | grep ulpt0 > crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 79 Oct 2 10:51 ulpt0 > PrintServer# chmod 666 /dev/ulpt0 > PrintServer# ls -l /dev | grep ulpt0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 79 Oct 2 10:51 ulpt0 > > i tried to set 666 for devfs.rules & devfs.conf in both host and jail, but > that didn't work. > > any more ideas? I don't have an usb printer attached. ls -l /dev/lp* crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 38 Sep 23 18:27 /dev/lpt0 crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 39 Sep 19 22:30 /dev/lpt0.ctl That's on the print server, no jail, and I think you do not need to change the devfs.conf file. Mine isn't changed looks like this: # Historically X depended on this, but version 4.3.0 doesn't seem to anymore #link ttyv0 vga # Commonly used by many ports #link acd0 cdrom # Allow a user in the wheel group to query the smb0 device #perm smb0 0660 # Allow members of group operator to cat things to the speaker #own speaker root:operator #perm speaker 0660 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 12:24:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79D71065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E878FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:24:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1254572688; l=373; s=domk; d=laverenz.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References: Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=5QhIGlQWnStaGH/Jfrtt43UUq4w=; b=Oq4FpESCCZTUzJ8dMc3NaM4mVnW2xzS9FJq+2cds69YlJMrqbgm5m70VubaDz7p1iAq fX6QbT1z21o+o9grUH5XRfxBomrydMGzhibZGfIGV9CG8CTnv0Jbt4igHA8TI6Edhvk7W /ivtJxX95qRAS84plPg4Bw2u4C0o2INUkxE= X-RZG-AUTH: :LWgJfE6Id/4Sm/WkdV0gEbKL+/p/UjmosA/b4BPR0oc5Ok8I77Pc2A== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from athena.laverenz.de (91-67-3-52-dynip.superkabel.de [91.67.3.52]) by post.strato.de (fruni mo61) (RZmta 22.1) with ESMTP id o07037l93BfPEl for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:24:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3C4127BE6 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:21:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31458-03-5 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t42.laverenz.lan (unknown [192.168.23.142]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6A3127BDF for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AC74287.6010805@laverenz.de> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:24:39 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: private site User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80173.56174.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <200910012345.n91NjCcK048650@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20091002091507.GA19609@torus.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20091002091507.GA19609@torus.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: migrating users from one machine to another machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:24:50 -0000 Daniel Bye schrieb: > Or copy /etc/passwd from the old machine to the new one, and run > pwd_mkdb, which is essentially what vipw does anyway. This would not work, the file that contains the passwords and that should be copied is /etc/master.passwd. pwd_mkdb generates the /etc/passwd from this file. /etc/passwd dows not contain the encrypted passwords. Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 13:04:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C40A1065676 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F3B8FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2009 09:04:41 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFJ58935; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2009 09:04:02 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19143.19392.666064.939130@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:04:00 -0400 To: Rolf G Nielsen In-Reply-To: <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Leandro F Silva , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:04:42 -0000 Rolf G Nielsen writes: > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > Where do I vote to have them continue forever not creating a > FreeBSD version of that crap? Is your objection to Flash in particular, or to any product in that specific niche? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 14:13:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D934C1065676 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60F3D8FC19 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42747 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2009 14:13:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254579214; bh=Zu+NpVEzpqro+OD/PczjUIMUBsSDJi8P6xL6YONVt/w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n4lV/RJRRjXG65SPKrazFrzqBmgeeWgTg2P2g2X9af1xmyFTbowtN15U4bPWW7f6f0tWxn1jlr6pwBQAe36nmRxGhf3exdUrc2cNK2EctVLiwfRtJhPFaILUHgR1b5HMDPhX/yZ0WMn3kcAHCm1hHy5pvC/AC/ttx+Gfbcfart4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XP824ZwmlHbnK7Pr89fQBd/Ify4pHFw7KwOwR5eiYG3ZJrVokqDkuDMPdwoVqq19dxMfrybEQuj3UUnmC74Kf9P7GfgEKXUU0hICM90IpU4hvAgdH0THuegnmjt+03nZoYAfr9d9RS92jEzDDvhxYWStsiu/eeIMj7508Rc2/IE=; Message-ID: <882208.41638.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1VDAS8gVM1mYXIIrcrBql8BFooltL54O1YZEk.ocs2dO_l4z9iV0wGVZVLOsFnQ6EVpT4cZytWcJJnPgOJFaq6gUOlv03Y8zGIwQPrWDHJTqBSCUHxcFLu.wDQTcxnT63_Nw9zBnaqX0OCHxAC0Ie7_wINHO_.1Y.6JV1hwDKL4p5khlByx8s2qLZqTdu.NC6g46u4R3Nv7XdAlxazUk8NL._k8Jy2EINGGHPLYs0k2SFn.hFqQx8cElJntiO5ZuH42I3UeFOnERvU5_RcLUg2pdjd1WuriH7TL8dGe98jiaIK_eIWzX4ihSxzzFbdMMW_SRO1V0SOjEC276o9oU9HIw8TXnqq7tgzrftGjZUl5ArQ38ArsaD5_JoHWEp0g_DtVmGq7tgTFEZYfWEFzcarCJjcP4c.l735vJ7SagBQZx5anHW42N Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:13:34 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <71655.65913.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <400246.26602.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910021422x793e464s7fed54c4325fc182@mail.gmail.com> <580966.22805.qm@web56203.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910021644n35cd9602l1798819be5be72de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:13:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910021644n35cd9602l1798819be5be72de@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:13:35 -0000 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Glen Barber > To: Aflatoon Aflatooni > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 7:44:39 PM > Subject: Re: php5 error in FreeBSD 7.2 > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > > > > That is the first thing that I tried but it wouldn't work and therefore my > original question. > > > > True, but you didn't say what you tried rebuilding. :-) > > > -- > Glen Barber It is strange but PHP is extra slow. I am not too familiar with PHP, can anyone point me to what I should look at? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 14:46:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9891065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA69D8FC15 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59035 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2009 14:46:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254581172; bh=5NDJqvSAVDC1yDfHM1k+VHQ6Yk3Zk1pGVJJsm9X2OtM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eI8VTYsQwZ/oqGxTmg9MxycUySeEPRQ3xyqnifU1Wff2VFxMgLt7N1d+ITGkLIF1abOIG2Yjw9VKLlKihNIWlpJsqsEIUZcm9rZ5gGTERMOZVHQD0G4updX2mWfoISd0rcXy54QOBCc0ax97lqE6cNkUOBLrQsrb85r+qnN0XK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D51b2yrMNVF2Ew/nZc3LCY1mhuPmptCEF7Xk8p0AkN582NaDxgkFona/EKZa9/kN4mj1zKHScGYjpbmP+OHKfIrZrxah5cGblIaSdxGJ6avf/aK2vLn30t32K0eXJbwJGqJdAJIHQSK/yHL9ChBrxbVcrOJr39us+rq/VtPAEfk=; Message-ID: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JJ_o2JoVM1mWHzKQ4wSyiee4zdMeZZlG9POcF_wbOW_8mCf_hjv3j8mTnFjAWs3rNOZdaeh2AGk50dxQbPMPmeNyOOPW73INPDCJx5Wp8yMD6rG4.F6Iz1o_gw4wD3fCRRM0uHpHSjwnfURa3XCeBK3idSg_XcWfj3tC3jpOM1xnNRyaGr6JmXSjAl8DLXIoponspnlTAxN9881qYirE8W4z0L_YXB35Ikm7bh5AoqagBPishcVbocrBhAiYpkNSmeRPef.WELO0mt7nSpks9f8ez2chzjd.kNRR2DT4EaHqe4jMvUHlPNBrm8VMYEd1t1f_.LFqfIc_efmA6tvn.L6kbZqH9x26YCq2.ez1Pdszc5vXO7bKhMVJ Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:46:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:46:13 -0000 Hi, I am getting a lot of core dumps and Apache20 freezing. I have installed the porting using the following make: make WITHOUT_MODULES="ssl status speling imap auth_dbm auth_digest dav dav_fs cern_meta cgi include" install any suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the problem and the core dumps. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 15:01:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AC9106568B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 058AA8FC1A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22551 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2009 15:01:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1254582067; bh=4figMRulB5pNQKODojzaeotzPe/xhqlJgwfhVWm/X5g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xuZkc9JgpRZq0MyICzxRtc7rC5cNEZ1v8xAhniFFAMJSP5eaWo3vK/99t9dHfqSZjYmQgUWhY+bsnWIa8tix4aj2Y78oCitlW7jK8941XVl6FkZao2X2lTwlghYXX1Fkm+3qRGIHnKf3zNXTadE2b6lKz8LebgGjf5CJc23Cmpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ajSnumAm8WMFS83c11qw1hZlum9KFU+y07gAxLh+fxiWs4u4wIvS0WSYRw3Pe6Q7NhBHNfLtHdgBeZsF3U4aisKGuVid37u2lOHy65Wax9jWbefvmhMaKu7anTCcMx8mX/Hqt4IpG2cUqT6rh4R+ZP5Pmal7OrHUhx/adYSGLyg=; Message-ID: <346226.13848.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HbDiVVsVM1mcr_SMVLqDjWciG.T3NHSqGreby4vqL.4GtwSsBHbGN2x0yzHnj4DyhoUsNwtDKelE5mbJvi3bXFNC57GdILpOVJO42cr5wmJcWXWIQjxjf0Qn97PZpM0.R0bUL7fhezO7bxMMfsYdgYxPONveHHV0PBk_I5atFb3gBQQtA_gNmSATeQOqK6666LZG9RO.yorrLaC1g9bFHgq_4U.f5BnRSlNPftRqvpvh_LY1h25w2YB3VC.nE.GmtoGTHI7o1M1mYfYGCBMGRH9DRZt1IKU60M.MqClgFkaq9GaeI_BdBlcofLKA8MDBFg8fo4Tfgh2H_r9KCL2KtgTGXwj87LSaqILiDLfU4wHIpdDLpbY5Qpto5U1VJPVf.LzgagzlIhOFwhmjtryvYhiPVR5x8A-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:01:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091003120028.B0CEA10656A7@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:01:08 -0000 =0A=0A=0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 9=0A> Date: Sat= , 3 Oct 2009 06:28:29 +0100=0A> From: "Lucian @ lastdot.org" =0A> Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player=0A> To:= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 <5a3c8f4509100= 22228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plai= n; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A=0A> =0A> Better pray for Theora's ma= ss adoption on streaming sites=0A> :-)=0A> =0A=0AI have this fantasy that i= f I design and build a better streaming video format, "They" (broadcasters)= will use it, if properly marketed.=0A=0AThis would be despite the lack of = "strong" DRM or license terms (GPL v3 is OK, right?). The idea is I build a= "public version", then sell a custom "corporate version" that is buzz-word= certified with whatever standards they want (except "strong" DRM; incompat= ible with the license) for ~$30,000 a seat, or some volume [del]license[del= ] purchasing agreement. =0A =0A=0AI got the idea when I realized that the c= urrent formats used by broadcasters suck. Most are based on MPEG that had s= ome processing constraints no longer present (to the same extent) on modern= computers. =0AGeneral idea:=0A1. Do away with the outdated concept of "liv= e". There is always a delay. Make the delay predictable and visible to the = user by sychronizing clocks with NTP. A "live" broadcast would have a calib= rated delay ranging from seconds to minutes. "pre-recorded" would be minute= s to centuries.=0A2. Modify Bittorrent protocol for Steaming media. There = is already (incompatible) work in this area.=0A3a. Separate "Lossy Compress= ion" from "Lossless Compression". This will result in a variable bit-rate s= tream. I came up with a (fast) transform so that the lossless compression s= tores only the changes between (key) frames.=0A3b. Optional "Variable frame= -rate" stream: new frame only needed after a certain percentage of the scen= e changes.=0A4. Publishers are authenticated with a Public-key infrastructu= re=0A5. For UDP or Broadcast, a format variant tolerates data loss with gra= ceful degradation.=0A=0AMain stumbling blocks:=0A1. trying to do too much a= t once: file format and protocol rolled into one.=0A2. For interoperability= , I need to stabilize key points of the spec before publication. Currently = struggling with date stamps (taking into account leap seconds) (mostly reso= lved), and a transform to allow the publisher to be authenticated even if s= ome data is missing.=0A3. Because my idea is variable data-rate, I can't pr= edict what "real-world" compression will be. need to do testing. As compres= sion may be affected my MPEG artifacts, need to test with my own "raw" vide= o. (Loss-less conversion from MPEG would be possible.)=0A4. A dual-license = may quickly result in a fork that implements "features" I really don't want= to see. (Read: anything deliberately incompatible.)=0A5. I seem to be pre-= occupied with the video compression, ignoring sound.=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AJam= es Phillips=0A=0APS: was this too off-topic?=0A=0A=0A______________________= ____________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! Mail= has the best spam protection around =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 15:43:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04E71065676 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kickbsd@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.yandex.ru (forward4.yandex.ru [77.88.46.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755AE8FC18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail89.yandex.ru (webmail89.yandex.ru [77.88.47.163]) by forward4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 068EB2689C6 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:22:18 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail89.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id E3BD6790002 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:22:17 +0400 (MSD) X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: webmail89 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1254583337 Received: from modemcable177.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca (modemcable177.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.37.130.177]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:22:17 +0400 From: kickbsd kickbsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <88331254583337@webmail89.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:22:17 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: unateended FreeBSD install + zfs + gpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:43:29 -0000 Hi! I've modified mfsBSD scripts http://people.freebsd.org/~mm/mfsbsd/ to make unattended installer for FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 on GPT ZFS root. I've successfully installed 3 different servers with that set of scrips. Modified scrips can be downloaded from http://unixdom.com/kickbsd/ Modified files are interfaces and interfaces.conf (that script now tries to auto detect first NIC which plugged) + new zinstall script + zfs aware loader. Let me know if someone already have wrote more serious unattended zfs compatible installer/scripts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 15:58:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB2E1065692 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0D18FC14 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9018580514; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:58:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: yOIG+4MarTTmolMOnB87m8XAzqlh78Gd1oLJVFJGGnb3 1254585502 Received: from olympe.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 124A91BE81; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <4AC5AA13.7000406@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:58:20 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <702B5735-BCA6-4D5F-BA99-BF75C9A49225@goldmark.org> References: <832963.74091.qm@web56208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <991123400910010704x7952ae73h13e1ce68d07a2773@mail.gmail.com> <44eipnurrr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <570307.51852.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4AC5AA13.7000406@bah.homeip.net> To: Bernt Hansson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usenet configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:58:23 -0000 On Oct 2, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Aflatoon Aflatooni said the following on 2009-10-01 19:17: >> What is needed in order to run nntp? > > INN https://www.isc.org/software/inn > A faq for INN is at http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html > > Diablo gttp://www.openusenet.org/diablo > A faq for diablo is at the above address. > > DNews http://www.netwinsite.com/dnews.htm > > Typhoon (not free/open) http://www.highwinds-software.com/ And if the needs are small, one might be able to get away with just running leafnode. Leafnode is *not* a full NNTP server, but for small networks with limited needs, it might be sufficient. I'm not familiar at all with Typhoon and Diablo. The last time I used DNews (a very very long time ago) it had some really nice design features that made it appropriate for situations between what one would use leafnode and INN, but it was buggy (this was a long time ago, those bugs have probably been fixed). INN, of course, is the sendmail, of Usenet servers. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 16:33:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3EB1065672 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5132E8FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23428 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2009 16:33:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Oct 2009 16:33:23 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80045082A; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1CEED1CCBB; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:33:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:33:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Aflatoon Aflatooni's message of "Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni Subject: Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:33:24 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: > I am getting a lot of core dumps and Apache20 freezing. > I have installed the porting using the following make: > > make WITHOUT_MODULES="ssl status speling imap auth_dbm auth_digest dav dav_fs cern_meta cgi include" install > > any suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the problem and the core dumps. The first thing I'd try is re-including the excluded modules. If you no longer get the crashes, you can start narrowing in on which one is involved. If you still get the crashes, you'll have to start looking at the core files. I'm assuming you're not used to using a debugger on a core file, on the theory that you would have done that already if you were comfortable with it. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:12:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CF81065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@vjs.org) Received: from mail.vjs.org (static-71-126-154-132.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.126.154.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5331A8FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (71.126.154.142) by mail.vjs.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.5) for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:04:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora 10.0b19 for Cray SV-2 (beta release), unregistered Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:04:20 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Vince Sabio Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:12:50 -0000 I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in ports. When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several (not a lot, but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I think, "OH NO, NOT DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. I blame it on ports. They have made me lazy. I am a victim. ;-) Anyway, and more to the point, am I missing something? Is zlib really not included in ports? If not, is there an automated/semi-automated means of installing it -- or am I back to the old days of installing dependencies manually? (I have had two servers go toes up in three days, so if I've missed the obvious here, well, it wouldn't surprise me. Just administer clue in the standard manner, and I'll get with the program.) __________________________________________________________________________ Vince Sabio vince@vjs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:21:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3297106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842668FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1588027bwz.43 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4OgrKWDb3G+iKU+ROfTo+FPhz2BQr72EOFBt4epUe7k=; b=t8lLW9Yxv0x4dJT3wIiho/OvVUJ91CSf0ZIVdne4JwvGLpGLSqeIQTNMD2kWNKJZQs w9M/GWmMZa/UewpoZbsdZ0xdLwzcrqHuyOeLRq81FotRp6sIgK1h8MSiBnXxaLJ2XVGm TjhfGkeYSM1vSNUbIlTSN8VUoFPXK3+ecI1VQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LMk6Xs3RB4ep0WaK8z1luH0SxQTTSSInjmvcWyA45/83ZkzvjQB8KUiF52ELdlguLi Yen0fz5YzxdFG3tzitIkp40viUrsgDIN6WE+gX0t2J5RLtVpQyNbHUAgImIIJ3ugs0Ir YQqOd72P3ny/2l1dBX2Z6FdG7OPIJkpCV+we4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.143.79 with SMTP id t15mr1440004fau.26.1254590498230; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:21:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310910031021j137e38a0u429b37b882442f7f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Vince Sabio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:21:40 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Vince Sabio wrote: > I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in ports. > When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several (not a lot, > but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I think, "OH NO, NOT > DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. > > I blame it on ports. They have made me lazy. I am a victim. ;-) > They should have meetings once a week or something... :-) > Anyway, and more to the point, am I missing something? Is zlib really not > included in ports? If not, is there an automated/semi-automated means of > installing it -- or am I back to the old days of installing dependencies > manually? > > (I have had two servers go toes up in three days, so if I've missed the > obvious here, well, it wouldn't surprise me. Just administer clue in the > standard manner, and I'll get with the program.) > > I'll assume you mean the zlib compression library. I found a few with: cd /usr/ports; make search key="zlib" HTH. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:30:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66C31065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1238FC13 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so7522071ywh.7 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jknwEmbBLf2hTkHgPiZj7AWGcFGHwEVOVZlMjbcHy34=; b=VoDKebVWDmYxP5MXF74sNq3aozDvr3AAg0KsslXx0+Qo3eP+u2K/S6QUC7PlTVKqkA aGEFVRtq8OC/uMCo3j7VIjIFCVdiB/leBsfNA4DK3MdjBrQWSKRwpGtkT98ixMJ6NsfO dSkfLNWaVgrYFp5vtRZYjyF/CtOX+ltYCUNYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n7dR0pGJGqhLNO6ARM+lb6cIHnAZdivhGU0weI7YXE/FoLGjwpO80A1ManfwW9bjyf AD09mH/wvUrft3WCk2QqNIPeHSrjIcy0qCbgWMnUjdMgr4E/OSdXlK5uuhhUx76tmNnG YIYV22TCsjP49l49eqeXihL3I5vV9ROfP0mnE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.39.9 with SMTP id r9mr2353649agj.61.1254591047760; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910031021j137e38a0u429b37b882442f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310910031021j137e38a0u429b37b882442f7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:30:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Vince Sabio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:30:48 -0000 2009/10/3 Glen Barber : > Hi, > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Vince Sabio wrote: >> I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in port= s. >> When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several (not a lo= t, >> but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I think, "OH NO, N= OT >> DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. >> >> I blame it on ports. They have made me lazy. I am a victim. ;-) >> > > They should have meetings once a week or something... :-) > >> Anyway, and more to the point, am I missing something? Is zlib really no= t >> included in ports? If not, is there an automated/semi-automated means of >> installing it -- or am I back to the old days of installing dependencies >> manually? >> >> (I have had two servers go toes up in three days, so if I've missed the >> obvious here, well, it wouldn't surprise me. Just administer clue in the >> standard manner, and I'll get with the program.) >> >> > > I'll assume you mean the zlib compression library. =A0I found a few with: > > =A0cd /usr/ports; make search key=3D"zlib" > > HTH. > Based on what I read at http://www.zlib.net/ The latest version (1.2.3) is in base: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dzlib&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&man= path=3DFreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=3Dhtml http://tinyurl.com/yksxt9p --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:32:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD61065693 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4958FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1591224bwz.43 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Vince Sabio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:32:47 -0000 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > Based on what I read at http://www.zlib.net/ > The latest version (1.2.3) is in base: zlib(3) agrees. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:38:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D972F1065679 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FFD48FC19 for ; 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Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:38:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:38:47 -0000 > Aflatoon Aflatooni writes:=0A> =0A> > I am getting a lot of core dumps an= d Apache20 freezing.=0A> > I have installed the porting using the following= make:=0A> >=0A> > make WITHOUT_MODULES=3D"ssl status speling imap auth_dbm= auth_digest dav dav_fs =0A> cern_meta cgi include" install=0A> >=0A> > any= suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the problem and the= =0A> core dumps.=0A> =0A> The first thing I'd try is re-including the excl= uded modules.=0A> If you no longer get the crashes, you can start narrowing= in on which=0A> one is involved.=A0 If you still get the crashes, you'll h= ave to start=0A> looking at the core files.=0A> =0A> I'm assuming you're no= t used to using a debugger on a core file, =0A> on the theory that you woul= d have done that already if you were=0A> comfortable with it.=0A> =0A=0AI o= riginally had them included and I was getting the core dumps, but I removed= them because I don't need them and I am still getting the core dumps.=0A= =0AThis is a production box and it would be hard to have debugger turned on= .=0AI don't know if it would be helpful, but PHP is also really slow on thi= s machine. I know that PHP would cause a dump in the php.core file and not = apache.core.=0A=0AHow do I inspect the core file to find out which module c= aused it?=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 17:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A08106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3284A8FC1C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mu8nu-00081u-5I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:53:58 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-17-243.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.243]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:53:58 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-243.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:53:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:54:21 -0400 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-243.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:53:59 -0000 Vince Sabio wrote: > I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in > ports. When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several > (not a lot, but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I > think, "OH NO, NOT DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. > > I blame it on ports. They have made me lazy. I am a victim. ;-) > > Anyway, and more to the point, am I missing something? Is zlib really > not included in ports? If not, is there an automated/semi-automated > means of installing it -- or am I back to the old days of installing > dependencies manually? Why not use the one that came with the system? /lib/libz.so.4 You won't be happy if you manage to get two of them installed; use the one already present in the system by default. > (I have had two servers go toes up in three days, so if I've missed > the obvious here, well, it wouldn't surprise me. Just administer clue > in the standard manner, and I'll get with the program.) This is different. If by some odd chance you are talking about this in php.ini: zlib.output_handler = /lib/libz.so.4 - I have noticed a problem a time or two in the past with certain PHP apps. I run with mod_deflate also and sometimes PHP apps balk at running with both. The advantage of using libz in php.ini is it compresses the PHP output stream, while mod_deflate is only good for static content. The above is kind of confusing, but wrt PHP there can be a difficulty if the app has written in it's own zlib compression routines internally. You can't do the compression in PHP twice. On apps where I have experienced problems, it was either turn off libz compression in php.ini or disable the .gz compression setting in the app's setup/configuration utility. I always opted for the latter, as this would maintain the ability for other apps in a default fashion. You'll know if this problem is present if when you try and access a PHP page you either get a page full of garbage or the server errors/crashes with a 500 server error. Just to be thorough, there is also a php5-zlib extension, which the construction of some apps may require. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 18:49:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEF0106568F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@vjs.org) Received: from mail.vjs.org (static-71-126-154-132.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.126.154.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BA68FC1D for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (71.126.154.142) by mail.vjs.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.5) for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:49:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310910031021j137e38a0u429b37b882442f7f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora 10.0b19 for Cray SV-2 (beta release), unregistered Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:49:20 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Vince Sabio Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:49:34 -0000 ** At 13:30 -0400 on 10/03/2009, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >2009/10/3 Glen Barber : > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Vince Sabio wrote: > >> I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in ports. >>> When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several (not a lot, >>> but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I think, "OH NO, NOT >>> DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. >>> > >> I blame it on ports. They have made me lazy. I am a victim. ;-) > > > > They should have meetings once a week or something... :-) If they had them, I'd be a candidate. > >> Anyway, and more to the point, am I missing something? Is zlib really not >>> included in ports? If not, is there an automated/semi-automated means of >>> installing it -- or am I back to the old days of installing dependencies > >> manually? > > > > I'll assume you mean the zlib compression library. Yes, that's probably what it is. > > I found a few with: > > > > cd /usr/ports; make search key="zlib" Worked for me. Muchas gracias. >Based on what I read at http://www.zlib.net/ >The latest version (1.2.3) is in base: >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=zlib&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=html >http://tinyurl.com/yksxt9p I don't know if I had a screwy install (I wouldn't put it past the stoopit sysadmin) (oh wait, that's me) or what -- but while I had the man page for zlib, I apparently it wasn't actually installed. Someone is trying to install some web-site-management kit on the machine, and it complained that zlib wasn't installed. Seems to be installed now; I guess, at some point, I'll find out if the web kit installer is happy now. Many thanks for the assistance on this. __________________________________________________________________________ Vince Sabio vince@vjs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 19:43:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29E41065676 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from qwillpen@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AF68FC16 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY115-W46 ([65.54.250.146]) by bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.65.192.173] From: Fuzzy Zabriskie To: , Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:43:09 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200910022231.28732.m.odonnell@shaw.ca> References: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2009 19:43:10.0288 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCC2CD00:01CA4461] Cc: Subject: RE: 7.2 Sysinstall choices -- existing multi-boot (based on Win7 RC's boot mgr) system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:43:11 -0000 <200910022231.28732.m.odonnell@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Currently=2C I have Win/XP in slice 1=2C no slice 2=2C Win 7 RC in slice= 3 and >> Acronis' hidden part in slice 4. I have unallocated space after slice 1 >> (about 45gb) I wanted to use for FreeBSD. >> >> I told sysinstall to create a slice (in the unallocated space)=2C then c= reate >> FreeBSD partitions in it for /=2C paging=2C /usr=2C /var=2C /tmp & /home= . I'm not >> sure what I'm supposed to tell it about boot managers though? Right now >> the MBR points to Acronis' recovery slice=2C which boots to Win 7's boot >> manager=2C it defaults to Win/XP. When I said do nothing sysinstall mark= ed >> the new slice bootable=2C and FreeBSD does boot to a text menu with Beas= tie >> on it. But=2C that doesn't give access to the OS's in slice 1 and 3? > > The default Windows MBR will simply just boot the active slice. When you > created your FreeBSD slice it was automatically marked active. > >> if I tell it to use the default boot manager=2C (booteasy?)=2C will it o= ffer at >> least access to what's currently in the master boot record & slice 2 >> (FreeBSD)? Or do I need a way to tell Win7's boot manager about FreeBSD = in >> slice 2? >> > > boot0 (aka BootEasy) will ask you what slice to boot from. If you've alre= ady > installed FreeBSD you can replace your current MBR with: > > boot0cfg -B ad0 > > Just make sure to replace ad0 with your actual hdd device name. > =20 Does boot0 use / save the existing MBR (there already is code in there to l= ook for an f11 key press then boot to Acronis's standalone restorer (It=20 looks like a tailored Linux :))=2C if not boot to 'active slice')? =20 Does FreeBSD's slice / partition boot block have enough info to boot FreeBS= D =20 if another boot manager selects it? Thinking I could possibly add FreeBSD's slice to Win 7's list of target OS's? =20 =20 =20 slice 1 is Win XP slice 2 is FreeBSD (/=2C page=2C /usr=2C /var=2C /tmp & /home BSD partition= s) slice 3 is Win 7 RC slice 4 is Acronis's hidden recovery setup =20 =20 =20 It appears that the Acronis' MBR looks for an f11 key press=20 (if found boot Acronis=2C if not boot the 'active partition').=20 Active partition was Win 7's boot manager which had Win 7 and=20 Win XP as targets with Win XP as it's default). =20 Acronis's standalone boot menu knows itself and Win 7's boot manager. I'm guessing whatever wrote the MBR saved the old boot code=2C so it could use it as an alternate target=2C (if one hit the the trigger key by mistake). =20 =20 = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 19:51:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C0106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E288FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n93Joxb9021717; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:50:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CEB43BA95; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:50:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:50:58 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Vince Sabio Message-ID: <20091003195058.GA42055@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports have made me lazy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:51:05 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:04:20AM -0400, Vince Sabio wrote: > I need to install zlib (not zlibc), and AFACT it is not included in=20 > ports. When I look at the zlib web site, I see that there are several=20 > (not a lot, but several) dependencies for the installation -- and I=20 > think, "OH NO, NOT DEPENDENCIES!" Or something like that. The reason it is not in ports is because the current release is in the base system :-) Check out /usr/src/lib/libz/README Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrHqyIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUfiACfX+2L+yxgoYTYKGUJ86x89SvQ TFYAnR4XCRHsqGcgJZd5xR3Y9OHlK7DP =LNXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 20:36:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B17106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266BF8FC21 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2370151qyk.7 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XhDj65X2X/QpCco1xJ6HU3nfxNdi/ORV307iiHUjpSs=; b=jOXOjNT0muzxBthS384YbbCGddTO8zkzHNF5+c6L0xuJ35al7uefbYiwe32cl24Ojz CF0FzCBF5fESgqtzPMphaVszo3AfpTsYuiyvTMBK2Ox3yoE3z1BIYVHtNf4GoFo8q2yL exwsR4lOIQW5qjGiWdrUwmiG6FW8SZPAdjgMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hFRoK6Z3iiS5wpaoK/bFHHekm1JVLlUGUvyplEK2Y/8LLDeQTNtjH+j6/IEFT1RnHO LUNqjKFeUV2o83HWarYJppq/csDAvKUZkI2TaoVFLKlf8MnK2fqCMNpXuxuulPJRoa8g sEvPRBwjERmlSma10fKwThVDJfnOXmpxenRBE= Received: by 10.224.57.21 with SMTP id a21mr2129187qah.122.1254600843567; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm526323qwj.44.2009.10.03.13.14.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:13:54 -0400 From: jhell To: Aflatoon Aflatooni In-Reply-To: <11016.32541.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <11016.32541.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:36:25 -0000 On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:38 -0000, aaflatooni wrote: >> Aflatoon Aflatooni writes: >> >>> I am getting a lot of core dumps and Apache20 freezing. >>> I have installed the porting using the following make: >>> >>> make WITHOUT_MODULES="ssl status speling imap auth_dbm auth_digest dav dav_fs >> cern_meta cgi include" install >>> >>> any suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the problem and the >> core dumps. >> >> The first thing I'd try is re-including the excluded modules. >> If you no longer get the crashes, you can start narrowing in on which >> one is involved.  If you still get the crashes, you'll have to start >> looking at the core files. >> >> I'm assuming you're not used to using a debugger on a core file, >> on the theory that you would have done that already if you were >> comfortable with it. >> > > I originally had them included and I was getting the core dumps, but I removed them because I don't need them and I am still getting the core dumps. > > This is a production box and it would be hard to have debugger turned on. > I don't know if it would be helpful, but PHP is also really slow on this machine. I know that PHP would cause a dump in the php.core file and not apache.core. > > How do I inspect the core file to find out which module caused it? > > Thanks > > Have you any special php5 modules loaded. I had a problem with I want to recall three or more extensions that would cause apache2X to dump core or halt in doing any further actions upon request. If the above is the case you can disable some or all of your php5-extensions in local/etc/php/extensions.ini to test it out. Best of luck. -- %{----------------------------------------------------+ | dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 | | BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 | | 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E | +----------------------------------------------------%} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 20:49:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFAB1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DC588FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59897 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2009 20:49:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254602994; bh=NjwUb3XEU3Hvjlb+lC+CCRfDfwUEfsaIgzCn47WYKwQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vy+q/up3qAqtz40K6WdzgSScukD/Fq49mtaGb1PldGujEMdB/6ueGu33z6b1wnfT6J4ZYxGbCS4VNt0DBjm/pmnpygK5PvkO2huURpXDMYWel5j0/GhgfVI1957TcRISuv3l0+LHdurHDQIUPt8rHEHH0KuAV7lZBnfRdPa9ikQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OGEAT/NvuRpKHOSRKvThQBjqe3PO9Byl01rZHSwVTnDV1HG3QysoKgqYWXDocvMNP851JSOAMAPtUxhLKVv9rrTLLbNidxG7j45lLXe1TNvOXUxybdrMIcEK4DOUhklqrn1PGC64CFlyx6d9o2ZIlvSnwRnKZN8G1d7PCNSZc/Y=; Message-ID: <741337.59760.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: peiAsKYVM1kz4_3iRP0chr51Yty_MEARJvPW.8lrv3HitptQSErA0IEdkHtHgmgT2OE4Eeto5yGYX_cu1b1cKVyxMJiaxuFeij4iy0aSWqqv2LykrVF_ZekZqbDRkmWCTFcX36ovTAAbhPsQk9PC8OQhZewSb7_PXHuH0oOscH_5Tes0FnWVkBR7ee.ZcD5fYKEXlVkWG9.NycvG1URwdcYmJGEYSVtYVREUtnf4Axi7Ah8A3_l9txRB09OOIZlIyDTPPwO8vPIsTcD_IPB5m840CoZAuoG9xlcpbk_zyC4DkIj8yu2woN2GYCjpD9XyFyq3jTeMbKywLun6OeHAZB16gNDOZXsfn7nnDQ1RkhMBVGA7OBtXQTKQY5WZdcTu3s0L5vrg8jSSrTyZyxmpaf92piNWIJTW5mrRlYwUEDaP Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:49:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <11016.32541.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:49:55 -0000 > On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:38 -0000, aaflatooni wrote:=0A> =0A> >> Aflatoon Af= latooni writes:=0A> >>=0A> >>> I am getting a lot of core dumps and Apache2= 0 freezing.=0A> >>> I have installed the porting using the following make:= =0A> >>>=0A> >>> make WITHOUT_MODULES=3D"ssl status speling imap auth_dbm a= uth_digest dav =0A> dav_fs=0A> >> cern_meta cgi include" install=0A> >>>=0A= > >>> any suggestions as to how I might find out what is causing the proble= m and =0A> the=0A> >> core dumps.=0A> >>=0A> >> The first thing I'd try is = re-including the excluded modules.=0A> >> If you no longer get the crashes,= you can start narrowing in on which=0A> >> one is involved.=A0 If you stil= l get the crashes, you'll have to start=0A> >> looking at the core files.= =0A> >>=0A> >> I'm assuming you're not used to using a debugger on a core f= ile,=0A> >> on the theory that you would have done that already if you were= =0A> >> comfortable with it.=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> > I originally had them inclu= ded and I was getting the core dumps, but I removed =0A> them because I don= 't need them and I am still getting the core dumps.=0A> >=0A> > This is a p= roduction box and it would be hard to have debugger turned on.=0A> > I don'= t know if it would be helpful, but PHP is also really slow on this =0A> mac= hine. I know that PHP would cause a dump in the php.core file and not =0A> = apache.core.=0A> >=0A> > How do I inspect the core file to find out which m= odule caused it?=0A> >=0A> > Thanks=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> Have you any speci= al php5 modules loaded. I had a problem with I want to recall =0A> three or= more extensions that would cause apache2X to dump core or halt in doing = =0A> =0A> any further actions upon request.=0A> =0A> If the above is the ca= se you can disable some or all of your php5-extensions in =0A> local/etc/ph= p/extensions.ini to test it out.=0A> =0A> Best of luck.=0A=0A=0AThanks,=0AI= followed your suggestion and removed all but the necessary modules from th= e extensions.ini. I will have to wait and see if it helps the core dumps.= =0A=0ASo at this time I have the following in the extensions:=0Aextension= =3Dgd.so=0Aextension=3Dmcrypt.so=0Aextension=3Dmysql.so=0Aextension=3Dsimpl= exml.so=0Aextension=3Dspl.so=0Aextension=3Dmysqli.so=0Aextension=3Dsession.= so=0Aextension=3Dtokenizer.so=0Aextension=3Dxml.so=0A=0APHP is still=A0slow= though!=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 21:00:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5A81065676 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2C8FC18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2076904fxm.36 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BqvpVNYCJ3D9wLfLFkfsiFsPu4dokHza94C5xTn9fYY=; b=h/nNMkqC5eqUfkTwwbHoLbz0gvYUuWY9EHwOvSwT0IJnH6XjKo4EVHy56iAz7uyZW/ 44PoDs3J8dBeJY7NJxh9MYsKm6+6Yw1ZCtMpNmNKPl8pAe3cBp5X0tCLTCYtq3L+smsC PO0GDwAHOYVPGAAHAB8fTcv+io/mWER4+9BR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ioDG+GK/9tpAdPmKN/jHoHQov+mQsxxpT95fsRNV0BX3mvkGRDej1X5ktPsLPUREQS mVT0ZgpDOObxfAn7dNQ20X5SiNX+dgKSzVJSeJz2oIf53K8dsjIHlQ+HwrPTscdWV3c+ kZW4rK9KB07hY/pHNAMnmscl3ZkvbCCt8B+U4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.80.23 with SMTP id h23mr1556968mul.88.1254603618255; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:00:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: erros with raid5 dell poweredge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:00:20 -0000 hi list, today after some work on server, it froze and because I live 50 km far away that server, my buddy has assisted in recovery. After rebooting, he took some photos and wrote me, what he saw / did. Before resetting of server, these messages have been appearing on screen: aac0: COMMAND 0xc77..... (that part changes) TIMEOUT AFTER 2280 SECOND aac0: WARNING! Controller is no longer running! code=0x1000080 there was an unresponsive login dialog, after typing login name, no password prompt has appeard. After reseting server by power button and rebooting, before freebsd boot dialog, this message surprised my buddy: Container#0 - RAID5 203GB Critical 1 Container found Bios installed succesfully After that, server normally booted and is up now. FreeBSD dell.tlis.sk 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Fri Oct 2 00:59:02 CEST 2009 stewe@194.160.104.34:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DELL i386 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 198M 258M 43% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/aacd0s1g 167G 286M 154G 0% /data /dev/aacd0s1d 989M 16K 910M 0% /tmp /dev/aacd0s1f 15G 1.5G 12G 11% /usr /dev/aacd0s1e 9.7G 440M 8.5G 5% /var it is dell powededge 6450, 4x Xeon 700Mhz, 4x72GB disk in raid5, 4GB ram thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 22:02:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443C2106568F for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FBA8FC19 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2098788fxm.36 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=sW6X9IQTFjqLnScP7+yE2kPTRqRuKmvIzaLDp+Vu3H0=; b=uRcCoFvgEx0gmI9Jr/SXNVpNdeQsWipdfxHLVyl8lU9cT+bYCySpS5OTduNoui+vq1 VLX/gGr/C1/0MvjkBgzK2J7K/dHAIB3kAgSu5C6N366CNhgQQ1qDDyPhX+zLYEXKHQyO e/GF/Gx84oJxoqNkk++Y/7Qep2DljGm3Mw8SM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ufJ6n0B/n/IFM/1MhTb8XR+cpIrX4NPbvxkOao8a6XJUbVOfH3bY9KPgwbtL1C7qY3 vWDUgH3qE+iTnwNUIAcOB7YgGVB5i0Xkk46C5Jtf45XH7hMqvYDz+xJusfx1h2VO8N1x uoorJaCq/euglmxdjkdoeZh5U13wU39FJj73c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.158 with SMTP id q30mr413929hbg.23.1254607320612; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:02:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: zfs root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:02:02 -0000 Hi, I have a quick question about freebsd on zfs root. I have built a few test systems all work fine. I have one question though. Does the loader replay any information when it accesses the pool? Basically im interested in how or what is done on reboot after the kernel panic or power loss. Are there any safe gaurds with regard to the zpool integrity?