From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 00:11:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAD610656A4 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F050F8FC0C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8891EAE9; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:11:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBR0BkhT003115; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:11:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:11:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20091227011146.bda2eeea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> References: <20091226120028.0A8FC10657A0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091227001029.N28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:11:50 -0000 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Thanks! I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!] > But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a > real speaker. You can determine it easily: If you plug something into the sound card in order to mute the built-in speakers, and you still hear a sound, it's a "real" speaker besides the sound card's speakers. If you don't hear anything, all audio output - sound card AND PC speaker - is done by the built-in speakers. > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. Early sound cards (e. g. the Logitech SoundMan 16) had an option to "copy" PC speaker output to the sound card output, even allowing to set the volume of this channel (treated like any other channel, e. g. CD, PCM, MIDI). > Probably help to be a dog! --That reminds me of what my parents > generation were saying about mine [with its loud music]. That we'd > all be nerve-deaf by age 55.-- Teh computer does beep as an error > sound. How adjustable it is other than just beeping, dunno. The kind of beep that is emitted (e. g. via BEL) doesn't seem to be adjustable. I had different systems, one of them just gave a clicking sound, where the other one made a long tone, and a third one made a "normal" tone. It seems to be determined by hardware. > Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then, > right? I've got volume and power, treble/bass. If the PC speaker output is realized through the sound "card" (and its speakers), it will leave the computer through those speakers, or through the headphone jack. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 00:13:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C811065672 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153878FC1D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3D41EB6F; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:13:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBR0DrNj003119; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:13:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:13:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lane Holcombe Message-Id: <20091227011353.6c469eb8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1261871439.24773.12.camel@lholcombe-desktop> References: <305263.35898.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1261871439.24773.12.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:13:56 -0000 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:39 -0600, Lane Holcombe wrote: > Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README I'm using the SMART_HOST functionality, too. But there's no authentification (username + password). The relay I'm using - my ISP's - seems to be happy with a valid IP from their range. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 00:43:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15471065676 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953178FC0C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W17 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:43:11 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [62.150.167.142] From: Marwan Sultan To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:43:11 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2009 00:43:11.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[90DFB090:01CA868D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:43:11 -0000 Hello people=2C =20 Im on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5 =20 Its easy to chroot ftp users - adding users to /etc/ftpchroot -makes the j= ob easy. =20 How about if I want to chroot the SSH users (not ftp) any easy way? no need for jail installation or anything like this.. =20 I saw sshd_config file and it has a chrootdirectory but not sure how to us= e it.. =20 Anyone? any tips? any easy way? =20 Thank you =20 -Marwan =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 01:31:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A611106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0443B8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so9440394fxm.3 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:31:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=18WRtbATDzsbJFXS5aettwUSqZXi+cOf2LX8zjhltzY=; b=BsMlptbzbOuyMfennIsBabiRd2BIPQTZ7gkfhHrsKECysHfiA/VhKDmrOT3vV8LJ27 GASdYyewPlz16oIIH0LJssmEnIJpsxhSicVSzHj3JJdU3YDyA59q9SwWh/Y9UKLKANnC TgZ5vU/7ixV+APpQIG76TaENT867y2MMfTgwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=iKrDYtkqqTgLqB+lwNgZCoRgRVz7Agm4b9gjWcBTgw8r+T+zuC4qtAH6/t+UF8cfQp iEnfve2DeH831/URJZSCodeXdZ1sFYy7LENTnlA+7sraJsrg00LWomoUhYTTVrm938YW gAHxdAn2XUte045l5qvxJfKH/3eP+i9+PuYQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.216 with SMTP id 24mr7478794fas.67.1261877480072; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:31:20 -0800 (PST) From: cronfy Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:31:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Max kernel dump size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:31:24 -0000 Hello everybody. How can I calculate max kernel dump size? I want to create my swap partition as small as possible, just to fit kernel dump needs. Thanks. -- // cronfy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 02:08:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D973106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2B78FC1A for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR28k8b010125; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:08:46 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20091227020846.GF47231@thought.org> References: <20091225204746.GA60638@thought.org> <20091225220131.96fa1f9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091225213713.GA66009@thought.org> <20091225225343.a97f8b43.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091225235048.GB66009@thought.org> <20091226130107.a9819212.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091226131848.6929921b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091226131848.6929921b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:08:54 -0000 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:18:48PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:01:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > //* OFFLIST > > Sorry, hit the wrong button - I hope it doesn't bother anyone. > If it does, don't read it. Ja vohl; I caught it. 'Most everybody know my leanings; just didnt want to waste that many electrons! > > Outdoor concert will start today at 3 p.m., but if it rains > a 3 p.m., we'll already begin at 1 p.m. :-) > Ah, life [tra-la, tra-la] ... . > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 02:14:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656C1065670 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D708FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBR2EvgF095695 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR2Ev8J046873 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBR2Evxw046872 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:14:57 -0800 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091227021457.GA46531@marvin.optimis.net> References: <305263.35898.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <305263.35898.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:14:58 -0000 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:20:27AM -0800, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > What configuration do I need to set in my freebsd.submit.mc in order > to connect to the ISP's SMTP server? The ISP is blocking all the > emails unless it goes through their mail server, so I need my FreeBSD > box to connect to the ISP's SMTP server for outbound emails. > > The client also needs to be authenticated as well. Fix your word wrap. Have you checked the Handbook? If not, start with Section 28.10 SMTP Authentication. Read that and follow the link to http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html where you'll find the rest of what you need to know. You're using sendmail as a client, so be sure to focus on the section entitled "Using sendmail as a client with AUTH". Fairly straightforward stuff, but there may be a lot to take in at first glance. Post back if you have any questions or need to be walked through any part of the process. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 03:31:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A06106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134C18FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.166.135.148] (helo=mail.joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NOjqj-0002OP-LO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:31:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (lholcombe-desktop.localnet.local [192.168.1.2]) by mail.joeandlane.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR3VFC1006839 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:31:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane Holcombe To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20091227011353.6c469eb8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <305263.35898.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1261871439.24773.12.camel@lholcombe-desktop> <20091227011353.6c469eb8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:31:41 -0600 Message-ID: <1261884701.24773.63.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DooleyDiligent-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: nBR3VFC1006839 X-DooleyDiligent-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DooleyDiligent-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-Spam-Status: No X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec798c233b83dd7aab2d7e1ad464bdb9355b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.166.135.148 Subject: Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:31:22 -0000 On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 01:13 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:39 -0600, Lane Holcombe wrote: > > Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README > > I'm using the SMART_HOST functionality, too. But there's > no authentification (username + password). The relay I'm > using - my ISP's - seems to be happy with a valid IP from > their range. > > See if /usr/ports/mail/sendmail-sasl is what you need My ISP requires authentication, so I had to install that port and then add the "AuthInfo" line in /etc/mail/access My ISP is only using plain authentication, but sasl will work for more exotic needs, I understand. But, of course, if it ain't broke then don't try to fix it :) lane ~ The bikeshed should be orange for this to work properly ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 06:04:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBF0106568D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F1C8FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR64N3f011325; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:04:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:04:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20091227060423.GA85511@thought.org> References: <20091226120028.0A8FC10657A0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091227001029.N28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_54 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:04:30 -0000 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > >>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > >>> at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf) > > > > >>> solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks. > > > > >>> I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for > > > > >>> around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness > > > > >>> control. > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > someone posted recently about the play-string language for /dev/speaker, > > > > see speaker(4). Could you do something with that? > > > > > > > > btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - > > > > cracked me up :) > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > Yeah :) I play little tunelets on certain battery power events, when > > some IP gets blacklisted by some logtailing script, things like that. > > > > > Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-) --I just tried spkrtest > > > and have no /dev/speaker. > > > > # kldload speaker > > > Thanks! I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!] > But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a > real speaker. > > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. > > > > device speaker isn't in kernel GENERIC. If it doesn't work immediately, > > try adding speaker_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf .. this assumes that > > your box _has_ a working speaker, eg beeps once while booting? > [[ ... ]] FWIW, I just got things set up on my new dell. But, like the '03 computer, the beep is too soft to do any good. Somehow, my Ubuntu desktop has the vim beep working thru the powered speakers on my Thinkpad. But the xset click simply does not work. Not here on my main desktop, not on the laptop. > > > > > > Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer level. > > Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then, > right? I've got volume and power, treble/bass. > > > > > > > The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so. If getting the > > > keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were > > > that easy, it would have been done after 15 years. Even Linux > > > lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too. > > > > > > What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the > > > kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio > > > create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye > > > ancient IBM Selectrics. > > > > You can do quite a lot with various tempos, intervals and frequencies; > > see speaker(4) and play around. Making a short click or thunk! should > > be easy enough, but spkrtest and echoing playstrings >/dev/speaker are > > userland processes; I've no idea how much 'fun' it would be to invoke > > /dev/speaker ioctls from the kbd drivers. But if you're really keen: > > > Def !fun, but not rocket science either. I'll poke around at this > stuff. > > > > % find /sys/ -name "speaker*" -o -name "spkr*" > Another tidbit is that I found my audio code from 1996; it runs into compiler errors because some of the DSP things have been moved. holy bleep, batboy.... gary > > > > > cheers, Ian > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 06:39:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED988106566C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C458FC32 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so2064381qwb.7 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jahan@bol-online.com Received: by 10.229.32.10 with SMTP id a10mr5846052qcd.105.1261895953145; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.86] In-Reply-To: <4208557d0912261046l574820abw3f5384a4f1c34b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4208557d0912261046l574820abw3f5384a4f1c34b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:39:13 +0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 711626ad9cca5871 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:39:21 -0000 Should not be any problem and should show up as rl0 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Erik Hildrum Saltveit < erik.hildrum.saltveit@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd? > 32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S > > http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=120787 > > > > Best Regards > Erik Hildrum Saltveit > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST cc. kindly see the recipients address list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 07:12:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9FD106566B; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960E68FC17; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so6489060ewy.3 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:11:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tUci5fhk0m9cblrv/agV+LDV5hEL3e+p4aDfRGYvmdo=; b=Ru6dULBwjKrCsma018oIYyckHCXSObEUN0r8sjNODGJWugriMBsLvNnScmmc5j6UdO 0d79a7QnMvBHtGeZXtGdfIlEqodoIZU6vvj4fUeBcUoXCLl3I8H6MxPJ+T1T/xE+Ss2/ 1JVvJuMZiaANKYfh8FD+ZBx+QAx9I6L3NuzHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=LgsLDZNeyx80coXsAm1ka/VKv/cclvD/1dkMLVoZKsVdLaaAxgOYOgYczIi0dKxxpD mY+YfrM1fr9cMv6Vbu6Dsv0u2hDHUP+LqU/wcfzfIWrx8UFb0HzWzHKeG+PkHnenyzK5 iF0uhfYbRCFAE9fmTT7jPfmAzQEi3w/yL8oPw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.81 with SMTP id x59mr4898010wee.147.1261897915266; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:11:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:11:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ed@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:12:05 -0000 > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. Outside of X, our kbdcontrol(1) offers pitch and duration (but not volume) control for the console bell via the -b flag. The volume is often dependent upon the hardware and/or the bios, and in some cases cannot be easily changed. Unfortunately, our keyboard-handling code does not seem to allow the remapping of individual keys to strings -- I think that can be done in Linux -- so we can't add a bel to every keypress by defining an alternative keymap via kbdcontrol, without hacking the code (but since ed@ is working on a new console driver, this might be a good time to request features...). However, at a slightly higher level, many shells and editors will allow you to rebind keys. And some will allow you to redefine the action taken when the bell is sounded: for instance, out csh(1) has the nifty "beepcmd". You could customize this to play a sound file of your own choice through your sound card, where you presumably have more control over the sound, and then try to use bindkey to issue bels with keypresses. Of course, this will only take effect while you're in that shell or editor, but you could use the idea to hack the syscons(4) driver to redefine sc_bell() if a certain sysctl is set... b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 07:49:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E435106566C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E468FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so6428068pwi.3 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:48:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+doXfk9tmAMXN2C1czbWjxCE09mga/NR4E63DQLOF8g=; b=FVdm6v5GqUHDIzMmAapMXdeNJ+0F4MoG+CzphmXSNEzzgNf2l0LamQel1eKbPKP/ri MdZ7/CF1O14mwDaGxFAsHE17D2IIq4QQYntfpcb2WLaTG2rOyzN2RXQjBp44NiM3kMX2 k8gCpsQzGm7gOq7U9yyFUBTkkRNbfFyg2Ka0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aLkUDGOmIeElpntfnV/AxZ2bt3+0FNj9diPkarLGVB/2Jei2+QkkBmlsTOoay1E8Ee O+x378+QF7zI2wUo61FJ0iHE5U6cIvnim2J7+OFpSn5GPeyJTQTW1JM65TUYncocf18M 5/cIr7OI7DOsBt3wq04joxFxwE+tS2n4sOSxU= Received: by 10.115.113.14 with SMTP id q14mr9619602wam.178.1261900128678; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ([122.161.2.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm10518698pzk.6.2009.12.26.23.48.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:48:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B37117C.3050502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:19:16 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Looking for a convenient way in C to retrieve CPU and memory usage of a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:49:00 -0000 Hello, I am looking for a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU and memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can somebody please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions to use for this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for information via the /proc filesystem. I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to other environments like Solaris/Linux ? Thanks for any help. Regards & Happy New Year Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 07:56:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B011065670 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasale@activenetwerx.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F12F8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2ml3so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.148]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Dec 2009 00:56:36 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=m/BfJR63+xTA2fmuDa8InQ==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=bKt1yXOQQOgZb1KX7psA:9 a=EKtwvh68u69Al4jlQJrwVnjJhyYA:4 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.activenetwerx.com) ([68.144.97.215]) by pd2ml3so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Dec 2009 00:56:36 -0700 Received: from mail.activenetwerx.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.activenetwerx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419F240110 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:56:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from exchange.activenetwerx.com ([10.0.0.3] helo=exchange.activenetwerx.com) with IPv4:225 by mail.activenetwerx.com; 27 Dec 2009 00:56:33 -0700 Received: from PRATO.activenetwerx.local ([::1]) by prato.activenetwerx.local ([::1]) with mapi; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:56:35 -0700 From: "Joseph L. Casale" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Thread-Topic: Package Size Discrepency Thread-Index: AcqGyhtiIUH1of4USJaYDXfN6Wt26g== Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:56:33 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Package Size Discrepency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:56:42 -0000 Why is gcc42 from: ftp://ftp3.ca.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/g= cc42.tbz ~66.6Mbs and has libobjc.so.2 but gcc42 from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/gcc42= .tbz ~18.9 and doesn't have this library? Thanks, jlc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 08:03:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F849106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376B18FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR83jl2022500; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:03:45 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "b. f." Message-ID: <20091227080345.GA30917@thought.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: ed@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:03:49 -0000 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote: > > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. > > Outside of X, our kbdcontrol(1) offers pitch and duration (but not > volume) control for the console bell via the -b flag. The volume is > often dependent upon the hardware and/or the bios, and in some cases > cannot be easily changed. > So, yet another man page; thanks for the datapoint. > Unfortunately, our keyboard-handling code does not seem to allow the > remapping of individual keys to strings -- I think that can be done in > Linux -- so we can't add a bel to every keypress by defining an > alternative keymap via kbdcontrol, without hacking the code (but since > ed@ is working on a new console driver, this might be a good time to > request features...). A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click, at something well below middle-C: yes, this kind of thing is what I'm thinking of. What is ed's full email ed[at] where.org, please. If he'll give me the clues, I'll share in the hacking. It is time to get this feature builtin to the kernel. Off by default, and on at some user-tuneable values. If only 1 peraon in 10K uses it, that's fine. For me, it makes typing do-able. > However, at a slightly higher level, many > shells and editors will allow you to rebind keys. And some will allow > you to redefine the action taken when the bell is sounded: for > instance, out csh(1) has the nifty "beepcmd". You could customize > this to play a sound file of your own choice through your sound card, > where you presumably have more control over the sound, and then try to > use bindkey to issue bels with keypresses. Of course, this will only > take effect while you're in that shell or editor, but > you could use the idea to hack the syscons(4) driver to redefine > sc_bell() if a certain sysctl is set... > Well, as a last-resort kind of solution. I think it's time to get at this by hacking the driver. But since it has been so long since my last go, some/any help would be much appreciated. gary > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 08:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB69F1065672; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763F8FC0C; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1186169eyd.3 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:18:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.132 with SMTP id w4mr211194wee.87.1261901932035; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:18:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091227080345.GA30917@thought.org> References: <20091227080345.GA30917@thought.org> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ed@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:19:02 -0000 On 12/27/09, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote: > A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't > the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click, at something well > below middle-C: yes, this kind of thing is what I'm thinking of. Remember, you can control the pitch and duration of the bell, and this can change the character of the sound substantially. Try it and see. > What is ed's full email ed[at] where.org, please. Guess: FreeB _ _.org. :) (He's cc'ed.) > > If he'll give me the clues, I'll share in the hacking. It is time > to get this feature builtin to the kernel. Off by default, and on > at some user-tuneable values. If you are talking about doing this by making the keymaps more flexible, it is easily user-configurable, though perhaps not in an on/off fashion. ed@ was writing a new console driver for other reasons, among them unicode support, and I don't know if he planned to tinker with the keyboard-handling code beyond what would be required for a interface to a different console driver, but he may be willing to help. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 08:28:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBC11065679 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BEF8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBR8SDHx046900; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:28:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBR8SDHx046900 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1261902494; bh=DzIjxLe+cPqPDHzmft4oqQbNUpUHH9jwHhGzFQHa+x4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B371A96.2020703@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2027=20Dec=202009=2008:28:06=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Manish=20Jain=20|CC:=2 0freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Looking=20for=20a= 20convenient=20way=20in=20C=20to=20retrieve=20CPU=20and=20memory=0 D=0A=20usage=20of=20a=20process|References:=20<4B37117C.3050502@gm ail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B37117C.3050502@gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Ve rsion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp -sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A =20boundary=3D"------------enig9C1DB27BCC79CDC73FABD583"; b=MFKsVboACCRmBPIe1ovKCoGhrLMUw8QhAHcOMoH4Iznhtahcdr/BVygpQz2KnNJS1 KStqu7yxBC0AlF+/UVwblspQHm4npbL1MbBHdTH8Yy9N8QTN30Bv0wnZChIkSvZq8v tIUwygDXvusUpr4iZXzn5+4+Xg/DuRGyTjlf2+/A= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B371A96.2020703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:28:06 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manish Jain References: <4B37117C.3050502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B37117C.3050502@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9C1DB27BCC79CDC73FABD583" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a convenient way in C to retrieve CPU and memory usage of a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:28:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9C1DB27BCC79CDC73FABD583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Manish Jain wrote: > I am looking for a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU=20 > and memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can=20 > somebody please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions = > to use for this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for= =20 > information via the /proc filesystem. >=20 > I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the=20 > suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to=20 > other environments like Solaris/Linux ? Use the source, Luke. In this cse, probably a very good place to start i= s with top(1) since it already does a lot of what you want. Start with=20 /usr/src/contrib/top/ This sort of thing generally requires reading /dev/kmem, which is very OS= dependent. The same sort of approach will probably work on most Unix-oid= OSes, but the details will be significantly different. 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To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Looking for a convenient way in C to retrieve CPU and memory usage of a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:32:41 -0000 >I am looking for a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU >and memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can >somebody please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions >to use for this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for >information via the /proc filesystem. >I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the >suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to >other environments like Solaris/Linux ? Hmm. Portable, no /proc... ? It could be tough to do this generically. Why not look at unixtop, which tries to be portable?: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop/files/ I think on FreeBSD it resorts to using kvm(3). You could just call that directly. Also, coming soon on FreeBSD, there will be libprocstat, which aims at making this easier: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/libprocstat/ stas@ is working on that. This kind of question is best suited for freebsd-hackers@ . Regards, b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 08:40:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB671065698 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7678FC1B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so6474136pxi.7 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:39:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:user-agent :x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=r10FyjOOR9g06DO/8x5eA3FZlQO/xdqBAosa7msjwFc=; b=OHYmuRupQ1/ZsBT6oF3E4AWwM5GI/VEyfvJHob+iK3pYYlpZTErJxLjZnBwjl1JRFr M62+HhuyZ9cCjybDDmbSPrFfSa0zsN7aNA5yazCrh2WA28mQIo+X55vVxOvCqgUKn23L pxnTYWieqPYrP46a0dO09BIuUZ/bx9l03TNnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:user-agent:x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eHVoBYiBA+CpATYoWUOknt/vrW+/XUZRZIeAn4e88oTNiHJWwqOYJSdbyJ7inrj7b0 oJpMLERRIxo6knGHL4JwtQj2IJQDoaNlhKJS1omFLzdKUQ9EDyrDdXml3lORV9fhRVCT DLtVbb976mmkgSgQqiwMDMbALVnABCgcUiUUM= Received: by 10.115.102.16 with SMTP id e16mr9711878wam.202.1261903194340; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([222.253.93.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm10560371pzk.15.2009.12.27.00.39.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:39:53 -0800 (PST) Sender: "Ky Anh, Huynh" Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:39:40 +0700 From: "Anh Ky Huynh" To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20091227153940.5ce942b8@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <20091226042600.1920a0e1@icy.localdomain> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group User-Agent: FreeBSD X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Face: FreeBSD Face: FreeBSD X-Mailer: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange find process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:40:09 -0000 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:24:04 -0500 Michael Powell wrote: > Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > At 2:00 am today, I turned my laptop on and suddenly found a > > strange process: > > > > $ ps xauw | grep find > > ... find -sx ./bin -type f > > ( -perm -u+x -or -perm -g+x -or -perm -o+x ) > > ( -perm -u+s -or -perm -g+s ) -exec ls -liTd {} + > > > > What is the purpose of this process? If that is a system check > > then where is the log file? > > There are some scripts called periodic which execute and perform > various different things depending upon whether it is a daily, > weekly, or monthly. The output will get emailed to root, or > redirected to an alias of root. > > The above looks strangely enough like a snippet of this activity. > The daily usually runs every morning here at 3AM, the weekly > rebuilds the locate and whatis database something like 4:15AM > Saturday morning, and the monthly is an end of the month count of > login activity. > > More info can be found in man periodic. There is a periodic.conf in > /etc/defaults, and the scripts themselves live in /etc/periodic and > you can take a look. My bet is you stumbled upon one of the > periodic script runs. > Thank you very much, Michael. The `periodic` is mentioned in the Handbook but I seem to leave it too soon. FreeBSD is so funny :) Regards, -- Anh Ky Huynh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 08:54:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84187106568B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028EA8FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBR8s23q069546; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:54:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:54:02 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> Message-ID: <20091227193035.K28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091226120028.0A8FC10657A0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091227001029.N28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:54:05 -0000 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: [..] > > > Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-) --I just tried spkrtest > > > and have no /dev/speaker. > > > > # kldload speaker > > Thanks! I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!] > But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a > real speaker. > > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. [..] > > Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer level. > > Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then, > right? I've got volume and power, treble/bass. Depends entirely on whether the speaker is wired into the sound system. If so, mixer will show a speaker device, eg on my 10y.o. Armada 1500c: % mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 Mixer synth is currently set to 0:0 Mixer pcm is currently set to 92:92 Mixer speaker is currently set to 51:51 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 Mixer line1 is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 09:19:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54919106566C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E2B8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so6527187ewy.3 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:19:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=h9o7pHqt72TjSXYZ/ubqh9E0kvrq5nlEnbYLlSx2R3k=; b=a3C7z3LdwuH6jdK21mumw9eXcDW4g1W7xBuPnqrJhQ5fu6fzY7l3VRv/f86N6zOhFP uegCOUQLrNoDot8RVTFi1YAc6D1kReBduZqVmDMZivsj2bvS7gKvgmbTuaeJ5FPK7iDL wRDM4LyYiBQflyHq6wxyNkwvSWnUp/hDcasMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=q8eDP0K6GHfcyhCVAEA+KC+oJmEUgrWQ0rh3PnRdKx8ZwB8WbnjgdYV3pbQDzKOfSn BzAkp8Zr9AzqJrRYX8sSTKjNevz8m5zrv/mgExddvsoV5veC0rnLi19c7x22JolEYPyU 7+cr5xClbqsoJeSzszg3777mx763IezaniGbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.132 with SMTP id w4mr224971wee.87.1261905581787; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:19:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:19:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: "Joseph L. Casale" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Package Size Discrepency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:19:52 -0000 >Why is gcc42 from: >ftp://ftp3.ca.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/gcc42.tbz >~66.6Mbs and has libobjc.so.2 but gcc42 from: >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/gcc42.tbz >~18.9 and doesn't have this library? >Thanks, >jlc Probably because one was built and uploaded before the gcc maintainer made some changes, like removing (and afterwards, re-adding) the objc frontend and removing the java frontend. See revisions 1.351-2 of: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/lang/gcc42/Makefile But the usual warnings regarding binaries built by someone else and fetched from a remote location apply. Regards, b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 10:35:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B461065698; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E832D8FC13; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NOqTW-0005zC-Nz; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:54 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NOqTV-00030O-Q4; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:50 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRAZnLw097738; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:49 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBRAZnRC097737; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:49 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:49 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091227103549.GA97660@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.7 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Subject: TP-LINK wireless pci - ath(4) driver - Atheros chipsets => WAS: [mary.li@tp-link.com: RE:] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:35:55 -0000 Below is the reply I received from TP-LINK about chipsets in some of their pci wireless adapters. This might be of interest to somebody who is buying a pci wireless. My interest in Tp-link is because there are hundreds of cards on sale at ebay.co.uk at the moment. However, I'm more confused by the reply than clarified. ath(4) man page list these 4 chipsets as supported: Atheros AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, and AR5416 Only 5416 appears in the manuf. reply, and even that is in a combination with another ath chip. More specifically, can somebody comment whether TL-WR851N: AR5416+AR2122 TL-WN651G/ TL-WN650G: AR2414 TL-WN350G: Atheros AR2417 will be supported by ath(4) driver, please. In case it matters it will have to be run on sparc64. many thanks anton ----- Forwarded message from "mary.li" ----- Dear Anton, Thank you very much for your email requesting information about our product. The chipsets of the adapters you mentioned are as below: TL-WR851N: AR5416+AR2122 TL-WN651G/ TL-WN650G: AR2414 TL-WN353G: Realtek RTL8185L TL-WN350G: Atheros AR2417 Hope the information will help you. Any further help please feel free to let me know. To get technical support quicker,please go to http://www.tp-link.com/support/faq.asp Best Regards ----------------------------------- Mary.Li Technical Support Engineer TP-LINK TECHNOLOGIES CO.,LTD. tel:+1 866 225-8139 +86 755-2650-4400 E-mail:mary.li@tp-link.com Website:http://www.tp-link.com/support/Support.asp -----Original Message----- From: Anton Shterenlikht [mailto:mexas@bristol.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 3:45 AM To: support.uk@tp-link.com Subject: Dear Sir/Madam I'm looking to buy a TP-LINK PCI wireless adapter. However, it must not be based on Atheros AR5005VL chipset. I need to use the adapter with FreeBSD operating system, which does not support Atheros AR5005VL chipset. Could you please confirm whether TP-LINK PCI adapters use Atheros AR5005VL chipset. In particular I'm interested in TL-WN851G TL-WN651G TL-WN650G TL-WN353G TL-WN350G Which Atheros chipsets, if any, do these adapters use? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 10:42:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDAE1065670 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B71C68FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Dec 2009 10:42:43 -0000 Received: from adsl-238.79.107.9.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.90]) [79.107.9.238] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 27 Dec 2009 11:42:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/YhspEnvbYRiZwXGU9vFcCDmCXDoI2o0oU+zvWa8 G0BGlzDzC6ifKW Message-ID: <4B373A0F.1050005@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:42:23 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200912262310826.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <200912262310826.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which IP+gateway for Freebsd guest VM in VMware workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:42:46 -0000 On 12/27/2009 12:10 AM, Len Conrad wrote: > > VMWare has lots of info how to set up the (Windows XP) VMWare Workstation networking side, but not much on setting up networking in the guest OS. > > I've tried NAT and bridging, no DHCP, and can't ping anything except the localhost IPs. > > XP ipconfig shows the fixed IP, plus 2 192.168.c.d IPs from VMnet1 and VMnet8. > > I'm sure this is really simple, but my experimentation has come up with zilch. Take a look here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html The guest OS will have an em0 interface which is connected to a host interface VMnet1, VMnet8 or similar. Actually the guest's networking configuration is simpler than the host's one. You should configure the em interface with an appropriate IP address: 1) Bridging: WinXP fixed IP and FreeBSD fixed IP for example, WinXP 192.168.10.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.10.101 2) host to host: WinXP 192.168.c.d and FreeBSD 192.168.c.x for example, WinXP 192.168.20.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.20.101 3) NAT: WinXP 192.168.e.d and FreeBSD 192.168.e.x for example, WinXP 192.168.30.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.30.101 Keep in mind that using DHCP is much more easy as you don't have to search for the appropriate address yourself, the VMware's DHCP server will offer it. Using DHCP from the FreeBSD side is as easy as typing "dhclient em0". HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 12:36:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99571065676 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FCA8FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id DE201471FD0 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246C43865B6 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from W500.Go2France.com [72.48.240.99] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A4CE2CB039C; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:30 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:36:09 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <4B373A0F.1050005@gmx.com> References: <200912262310826.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> <4B373A0F.1050005@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <200912271336889.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: which IP+gateway for Freebsd guest VM in VMware workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:36:18 -0000 >>VMWare has lots of info how to set up the (Windows XP) VMWare Workstation networking side, but not much on setting up networking in the guest OS. >> >>I've tried NAT and bridging, no DHCP, and can't ping anything except the localhost IPs. >> >>XP ipconfig shows the fixed IP, plus 2 192.168.c.d IPs from VMnet1 and VMnet8. >> >>I'm sure this is really simple, but my experimentation has come up with zilch. > >Take a look here: >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html thanks, I've been setting up FreeBSD for 10 years, and have multimple FreeBSD VMs running in several ESXi hosts. >The guest OS will have an em0 interface it does. > which is connected to >a host interface VMnet1, VMnet8 or similar. XP ipconfig shows: Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.219.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.198.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : The physical Ethernet adapter has a fixed public IP. I have only one public IP from the ISP. In the VMWare Virtual Network Editor, this i/f is listed as VNnet0, Type Bridged, Connected column is "-", and Subnet Address is "-" > Actually the guest's >networking configuration is simpler than the host's one. yeah, right! :) It's too simple for me. > You should >configure the em interface with an appropriate IP address: >1) Bridging: WinXP fixed IP and FreeBSD fixed IP > for example, WinXP 192.168.10.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.10.101 I'd like to stay with bridged. the XP fixed ip is a.b.c.99, and I set the em0 to a.b.c.98. /etc/rc.d/netif restart /etc/rc.d/routing restart ifconfig shows em0 with .98 and correct broadcast IP, but "status: no carrier" >2) host to host: WinXP 192.168.c.d and FreeBSD 192.168.c.x > for example, WinXP 192.168.20.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.20.101 > >3) NAT: WinXP 192.168.e.d and FreeBSD 192.168.e.x > for example, WinXP 192.168.30.100 and FreeBSD 192.168.30.101 Just to get something going, I have tried NAT: from xp ipfconfig above: xp @ 192.168.219.1 the VMWare Virtual Network Editor shows the NAT network with gateway 192.168.219.2, so I put that in /etc/rc.conf, and set the FreeBSD rc.conf IP to 192.168.219.3. /etc/rc.d/netif restart /etc/rc.d/routing restart and always get "status: no carrier" xp can ping itself at 192.168.219.1, but can't ping .2 or .3 FreeBSD VM can't ping anything but itself. >Keep in mind that using DHCP is much more easy as you don't have to >search for the appropriate address yourself, the VMware's DHCP server >will offer it. Using DHCP from the FreeBSD side is as easy as typing >"dhclient em0". I'd like to be able to ssh/ftp into the FreeBSD VM from Internet, so I'd prefer to stay away from DHCP for the FreeBSD VM networking. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 13:36:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DFA106566C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guy@posteurs.com) Received: from kim.posteurs.com (kim.posteurs.com [91.121.169.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B15B8FC14 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kim.posteurs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00872B00D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:31:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kim.posteurs.com Received: from kim.posteurs.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kim.posteurs.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kvUVChRPLZ0D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:31:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (guy.posteurs.com [88.161.152.179]) (Authenticated sender: guy@posteurs.com) by kim.posteurs.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E0702AFDD for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:31:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B37630D.5050806@posteurs.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:37:17 +0100 From: Guy Marcenac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Jails setup with binary packages only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:36:28 -0000 I would like to use a freebsd system with binary packages only. I want to heavily use the jail concept. All the documentation about jails implies the use of buildworld into the jails. In order to avoid any compilation time, I installed a minimal base system for the host and I nullfs mounted read-only every system directory (bin, sbin, etc) into my jails. Then, in order to be able to install additional software inside the jails, I unionfs mounted read-write empty directories ontop of the nullfs read-only system directories. So I only have to freebsd-update the host and then freebsd-update each jail in order to keep updated. What about this kind of setup ? do I miss something ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 15:26:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618DB1065693 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802E8FC1A for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP17 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:26:21 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP17.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:26:20 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E675922856 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:26:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:26:19 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2009 15:26:21.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[F14CF0C0:01CA8708] Subject: Labeling a USB drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:22 -0000 I have FreeBSD-7.2 installed. I also have several USB Flash drives that I use. I was using the following to partition and format the drives. # fdisk -I /dev/da4 # bsdlabel -w /dev/da4 Now, that appears to work correctly. I would also like to "name" the drive. I cannot find any command that will allow me to do so. I can do it in Windows; however, I then have a choice of only fat, fat32 or NTFS for the disk. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 15:33:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB191106568B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545CD8FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRFXGKG082572 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:33:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBRFXGKG082572 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1261927997; bh=5sEE7s6AJNPifC13/E+Au6tUL4h1Objq78TJLrNSD40=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B377E2E.6020709@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2027=20Dec=202009=2015:33:02=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20La beling=20a=20USB=20drive|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multi part/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applic ation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD1A2C6 94B41BF3E18B2F6B19"; b=nDl2zZof2tHdNROoUCPjbgF5H/X0SBbcwDivL81zTqt2W22xSKs0JSfGKlA3yg4UP 5Imgu9VCx7FahNqr+nXvLcq7W9CIlTGAMlMrwWHEc2uN51DWFjfxaaCt/jkQOivpm3 0XmcEACLQUNwm52I4EyU6oQX6nlHqmiXJIXjPgro= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B377E2E.6020709@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:33:02 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD1A2C694B41BF3E18B2F6B19" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Labeling a USB drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:33:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD1A2C694B41BF3E18B2F6B19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carmel wrote: > I have FreeBSD-7.2 installed. I also have several USB Flash drives that= > I use. I was using the following to partition and format the drives. >=20 > # fdisk -I /dev/da4 > # bsdlabel -w /dev/da4 >=20 > Now, that appears to work correctly. I would also like to "name" the > drive. I cannot find any command that will allow me to do so. I can do > it in Windows; however, I then have a choice of only fat, fat32 or NTFS= > for the disk. glabel(8) tunefs(8) Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD1A2C694B41BF3E18B2F6B19 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks3fjwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy8pgCbBrhmz64GruPMNqV8V6yMdvym 7LoAn3XhuccSUINsUtLRl/xpY4Q6NUkm =aHwj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD1A2C694B41BF3E18B2F6B19-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 16:32:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D75106566C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75F8FC14 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CE0EB47BB for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624F944FE2 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:20 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HfNVm88N5ejR for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-217-136.home.otenet.gr [94.64.217.136]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1966244FE1 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRGWHnL005257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBRGWHFL005254; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091223230111.GA1188@bsd.remdog.net> <200912240021.47525.pieter@degoeje.nl> <20091223234013.GA1080@bsd.remdog.net> <87vdfwhoen.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091224071112.GC25393@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:32:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20091224071112.GC25393@comcast.net> (Charlie Kester's message of "Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:11:12 -0800") Message-ID: <871vigbcof.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: What happened to /home? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:32:23 -0000 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:11:12 -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 23 Dec 2009 at 22:33:20 PST Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is >>> / and then it goes back to the prompt. Output of 'ls -ld /home is: >>> >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home -> usr/home >> >> That's your problem right there. /home does not point to the absolute >> path of '/usr/home' but to a *relative* path starting at whatever >> happens to be your current directory when you access '/home'. > > Are you sure about that? On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:57:11 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > Wrong. Relative paths in symlinks start at the symlink is in, not the > current directory. I.e. that the symlink is relative should not be a > problem. (Under AmigaOS relative symlinks worked as you describe, which > made them a PITA and fairly useless, but under Unix relative symlinks have a > more sane behaviour.) On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:12:21 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > That's quite strange... I have /home@ -> export/home and /export lives > on another partition. But I have no problems accessing files as > /home/poly/some/dir/some/file from wherever I am. As far as I > understood, relative symlinks prefix their respective targets always > with their own location, so /home + export/home gives /export/home. You are all right, of course. I shouldn't post moments before jumping on a bus without testing. Something else is the real problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 16:35:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD831106568F for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from n1a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n1a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 708AD8FC23 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2009 16:22:14 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.89] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2009 16:22:14 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.154] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2009 16:22:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp207.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2009 16:22:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 101216.71550.bm@omp207.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 73107 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Dec 2009 16:22:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1261930934; bh=n4ziImgdBrqt/6qnkuoKr6seAG4W/etcvTuaR1Hz/3s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lbWqtB3a9rgY+mB2PMUlcrFkj8KgBoCKqU2m+hpVIFH+9sFs9H6rjgLcd+br/R7EekZL65Q6nPK2BakqiDM8cSoweRbAhKx8+HexL4AL5B5Z4S/soTA4bfWob7fxfu9L33fJa88i6+j5Sp+CF4+Eh26ulcXPbCQAHGv4o9Ezyiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=amezfpjmw2D3c+e0iE4V1VqAxctCsblwWubEaU/m1tW0ODjdBg8F+/dTCuXLLD5sBRXJnmn8pP+KkuyFZbMPlFI9+3r4Htma6ioIoTHxOyfxnAz/OzWahnKASMtg+JnB2nGK7Rb0kLcc5fNMM5zTr4e3qxzfC47o3mgKaqTTOmM=; Message-ID: <988269.72862.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rmq6Z4AVM1klv8gpYAbTLc_338FR9CDy_gfPCXPCALzpeX7.VsNfOUG5vzIibPdqVxUPiHiEo52orhWhvaCZEStdP98ax1x6M8miOMVvJ0pnCBpdg29wvTJlhCwmvDHAyu4R97I9Tl89x6RnxqsY3KjlwOBOdsunaBBEQHbfunxb4xOQLjC0tPfWQI6RcvjVlvKunCcHBDzISSCcNYniOL3I8ZZybSEdJoTBKKpbK7dI8Ty_mzlb9vrNjPCkIg924PVcon7keSpKeQckSqG2Zb3mFhgpF8ftX4KGb0bs94bQquZCbxX54k7sIQ-- Received: from [69.171.158.176] by web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:22:13 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <305263.35898.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1261871439.24773.12.camel@lholcombe-desktop> <20091227011353.6c469eb8.freebsd@edvax.de> <1261884701.24773.63.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <1261884701.24773.63.camel@lholcombe-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:35:56 -0000 > On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 01:13 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:39 -0600, Lane Holcombe wrote: > > > Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README > > > > I'm using the SMART_HOST functionality, too. But there's > > no authentification (username + password). The relay I'm > > using - my ISP's - seems to be happy with a valid IP from > > their range. > > > > > See if /usr/ports/mail/sendmail-sasl is what you need > > My ISP requires authentication, so I had to install that port and then > add the "AuthInfo" line in /etc/mail/access > > My ISP is only using plain authentication, but sasl will work for more > exotic needs, I understand. > > But, of course, if it ain't broke then don't try to fix it :) > > lane > ~ The bikeshed should be orange for this to work properly ... > So does the SMART_HOST work with gmail as well? Can someone post a sample mc file? Many thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:04:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4378106568B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB718FC1D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.mail.yandex.net (smtp10.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.36]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 694964682AB for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:03:59 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [192.168.2.17] (unknown [77.93.42.18]) by smtp10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id C144010900A2 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:03:58 +0300 (MSK) X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.2.17]:3485 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1261933664.11668 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:51:06 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1261933439 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp10.mail.yandex.net Subject: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:04:01 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Freebsd-questions. when tar -cf file.tar /home/* It always says: tar: Removing leading '/' from member names man tar -P Preserve pathnames... But I do not need to preserve. I want to tar without that warning. How to force tar to be quiet? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:15:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC7A106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk) Received: from mail.tenenbaum.co.uk (87-194-142-21.bethere.co.uk [87.194.142.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994658FC12 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ion (unknown [192.168.1.16]) by mail.tenenbaum.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6B861C36 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:55:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "Simon Griffiths" To: Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:55:56 -0000 Message-ID: <00c101ca8715$75426930$5fc73b90$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcqHFXOd3DEmufQ2RBew2MVmLmP0Fw== Content-Language: en-gb x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AmUt ApF/ A9OO Bl9B DmQ6 ED0u Fjwm G7D1 HVmF Hol+ H6Mj IA8W IDyD KfpL KzA+ K+sQ; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {C20F2D5A-8823-482A-9E95-90B4EB14069C}; cwBpAG0AbwBuAC4AZwByAGkAZgBmAGkAdABoAHMAQAB0AGUAbgBlAG4AYgBhAHUAbQAuAGMAbwAuAHUAawA=; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:55:53 GMT; SQBzAHMAdQBlAHMAIAB3AGkAdABoACAAbQBhAGsAZQAgAC0AagAgAG8AcAB0AGkAbwBuACAAbwBuACAAcABvAHIAdABzAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {C20F2D5A-8823-482A-9E95-90B4EB14069C} Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Issues with make -j option on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:59 -0000 Hello, I seem to get errors with quite a few ports if I use the make -j option. The errors surround multiple make commands not getting the files it expects in order. Is this the correct behaviour? make -j 8 install clean install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/net/boinc_curses/work/boinc_curses-0.1.9/boinc_curses /usr/local/bin/ install: /usr/ports/net/boinc_curses/work/boinc_curses-0.1.9/boinc_curses: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 ===> Cleaning for boinc-client-6.4.5_4 ===> Cleaning for wxgtk2-2.8.10_2 ===> Cleaning for intltool-0.40.6 ===> Cleaning for boinc_curses-0.1.9_2 1 error This is on a quad core amd64 box. I seem to get this error on a number of ports, for example recompiling gnome2, mysql etc etc. So my CPU never really maxes and the builds take longer than they should. Any ideas? Si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:16:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6D21065694 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693798FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so3328845fgg.13 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mCJ3G/j5qRssEHMg6COx6N4bzKMYHTuzn/S/jxALXVk=; b=vMFP+a3fisq6RB2+3lw4sVVNVYIKasBGIO1RO7Zn/GEk1Vp84Zdo1a9n4YpRxHHGPI laU/jq2GXTD/8N7x0l6RyQ6sAUpbojHi5jolspXR+wRb18OXiLBx3TRB8ieAzFJJoiU6 Ig07brfVJwUsdBAOXGlu7epk2xueZjWQ4zdQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=p+P/ub6+dTMelq4xAm5LGD86XR20NINIJRkGVIOmP7dNWUousdhvymGWhXNm+Y+Pcy TmGBWsA/FiDgw/Ei5T1DYrBD02/60VTlGjbzl3RDly+GoiSbguLk8dqUdNlGDuG1ORhT P5Z23JYNQkGwDp9g2Hcodn6O3GeYwCxIK2ofU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.67 with SMTP id o3mr591440hbd.22.1261934207393; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:16:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Marwan Sultan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:16:56 -0000 2009/12/27 Marwan Sultan > > Hello people, > > > > Im on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5 > > > > Its easy to chroot ftp users - adding users to /etc/ftpchroot -makes the > job easy. > > > > How about if I want to chroot the SSH users (not ftp) > > any easy way? no need for jail installation or anything like this.. > > > > I saw sshd_config file and it has a chrootdirectory but not sure how to > use it.. > > > > Anyone? any tips? any easy way? > > > > Thank you > > > > -Marwan > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgmailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > fairly easy if you read the man page 8) I wrote this howto for sun boxes at work but it was using openssh so same rules should apply. Make sure chroot support was compiled in though 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris 10 are bundled with openssh though. 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) 3. Add these lines to sshd config Match Group sftponly ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this Subsystem sftp internal-sftp 5. create the sftponly group on the system 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them being able to ssh in!! 7. Dead important this bit !!! mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh chown -R root /home/chroot/ chown -R /home/chroot/ chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh All should now work If not check /etc/shadow the account might be locked, this just caught me out :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:27:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B82106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04F08FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so6711502pzk.3 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:27:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oev3ML2ugMZs4qdxsvXRfr/y/UKJUGJ1TX+yVI5nTsU=; b=YyYkduvgjsChxcaj2/m3NzCX8OztCFHStr2y74Gr49Y7jO8bfRAZlAb3eYI9+1zfSb 5Ns5/PXH9uogFJ4arXPkoHf7aF9AnlxrHgYppwgyOwgAd9jgvdsAsT2byITmRl5CGki4 S45DNuTyyaA4KRyukMc7xtQBzNuhg4KoVLYpk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uVCFxrb4DLaOyH0abOYMrNjY6TAKf8prLRTYpmfpUrr+ZHqTNNNv8TOUl6XX+DdpSl ipDUhlGK2zWb8KSv7bN6eIw8/NG7AkpPur1zpE4o/r0xoytfCa0HEa4N9yjgEV+R3C2e TNBcqezcKFniuSfD+rk4+TVL6m7H1NGLfHcE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.236.28 with SMTP id j28mr9996637wah.162.1261934873117; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:27:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:27:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to modify date after unrar files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:27:59 -0000 Hi, I don't know how to modify the time of files after it's extracted by unrar, the extracted file has the time that it's created on the other side, but I want it to have time/date on my side, thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:34:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67C1106568B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914C08FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRHY4oV035214; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:34:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBRHY4sS035211; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:34:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:34:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Simon Griffiths In-Reply-To: <00c101ca8715$75426930$5fc73b90$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <00c101ca8715$75426930$5fc73b90$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:34:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issues with make -j option on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:34:05 -0000 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Simon Griffiths wrote: > I seem to get errors with quite a few ports if I use the make -j option. Building with multiple jobs is part of the ports system for several months now. See the MAKE_JOBS variables in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. Overriding that with -j is going to try to force ports that aren't multiple-job-safe, probably causing the problems you're seeing. The preferred number of jobs defaults to the number of CPUs. That can be overridden with MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER. > The errors surround multiple make commands not getting the files it expects > in order. Is this the correct behaviour? > > > > make -j 8 install clean > > install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 > /usr/ports/net/boinc_curses/work/boinc_curses-0.1.9/boinc_curses > /usr/local/bin/ > > install: /usr/ports/net/boinc_curses/work/boinc_curses-0.1.9/boinc_curses: > No such file or directory > > *** Error code 71 > > ===> Cleaning for boinc-client-6.4.5_4 boinc-client has MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE= yes in its Makefile. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:36:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042401065676 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F198FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D095D3DC98; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:36:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBRHa5b2002520; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:36:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:36:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Message-Id: <20091227183605.7b129c82.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how to modify date after unrar files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:36:13 -0000 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:27:53 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I don't know how to modify the time of files after it's extracted by > unrar, the extracted file has the time that it's created on the other side, > but I want it to have time/date on my side, thank you!! In order to change access / modification time, just % touch and they'll have the correct date and time. Use -m for modification time. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151211065679 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk) Received: from mail.tenenbaum.co.uk (87-194-142-21.bethere.co.uk [87.194.142.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55CF8FC14 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ion (unknown [192.168.1.16]) by mail.tenenbaum.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9526E61C36; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:40:52 +0000 (GMT) From: "Simon Griffiths" To: "'Warren Block'" References: <00c101ca8715$75426930$5fc73b90$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:40:52 -0000 Message-ID: <00c901ca871b$bc41b510$34c51f30$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcqHGsqD5+6gR8KOSamixm51vqsbcAAAHDRQ Content-Language: en-gb Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Issues with make -j option on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:40:54 -0000 Hello, > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Simon Griffiths wrote: > > > I seem to get errors with quite a few ports if I use the make -j > option. > > Building with multiple jobs is part of the ports system for several > months now. See the MAKE_JOBS variables in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. > Overriding that with -j is going to try to force ports that aren't > multiple-job-safe, probably causing the problems you're seeing. > > The preferred number of jobs defaults to the number of CPUs. That > can be overridden with MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER. Ahh, that'll be where I'm going wrong then. Thank you very much :) Is this number only be overridden on the command line e.g. make -DMAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=8 install clean... or is there a file I could put this in, I'm thinking make.conf in /etc ? > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Thanks very much Warren, Si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 17:48:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0257B10656A7 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDB78FC08 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so6716489pzk.3 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/A9eeb7cVhF6ll9R350+MEla4W2IaS07dSZKdINUKcw=; b=tyiUfFcaNS7u6UmpqC38BJVhdqnu2++DQEpOEEkw1WIcR5BMbUVvS/B8DshMPx+MON mQZxrNZWu4PV2RH91NWo/1lSHWEo2zFN+5RPM7DcoTH5dW1l5yLW9BGPbrcDHyDeum2P U0SqKrfSMQsFUxtYAasycvn5cQ0wj6DnIvtKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ev5yg83Vrx7wZXTO+ump+Y5HEptruVr4tGPmpG88mV4jKwNm2Exue2n9A8Y4Ps1Dah C18J+5Pe2+p1ejyvLX11ENrNmGpF0XFUvM47uN9f+t86+ZazHTkyF0FXe8JSSMrwQMKs Gx3w54FMFZN2dZqw2bXD19ExH0h+AlApVfLQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.188.31 with SMTP id l31mr9842668waf.201.1261936098903; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:48:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B37630D.5050806@posteurs.com> References: <4B37630D.5050806@posteurs.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:48:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Guy Marcenac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails setup with binary packages only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:48:22 -0000 On 12/27/09, Guy Marcenac wrote: > I would like to use a freebsd system with binary packages only. I want > to heavily use the jail concept. All the documentation about jails > implies the use of buildworld into the jails. > > In order to avoid any compilation time, I installed a minimal base > system for the host and I nullfs mounted read-only every system > directory (bin, sbin, etc) into my jails. Then, in order to be able to > install additional software inside the jails, I unionfs mounted > read-write empty directories ontop of the nullfs read-only system > directories. > > So I only have to freebsd-update the host and then freebsd-update each > jail in order to keep updated. > > What about this kind of setup ? do I miss something ? A binary jail install with packages is fine. I don't know why it was documented to do it from source other than the possibilities that it jails were a technology only achievable by updating your source files and installing (when jails were new). Now that it's gone through a release cycle, I've done several binary jails, with binary packages. To get a system up quickly, I often do a binary jail install with binary packages, and then run ports and a build to keep it maintained. Of course if I need an option not default in a port, it gets done by ports. Binary jail install, freebsd-update, pkg_add portaudit, rehash && portaudit -Fa Now it's a basic setup, things like timezone (in the jail) and other odds-and-ends. enjoy, --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 18:23:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A0A1065670 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B618C8FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so6602395pxi.7 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2meGCVTD5H9NRDKoNIj3QEFR7aCsa7zttZTfgiD1Tow=; b=bgOni0tcAZ8xzg46nqXXa2L742bcFaXS1blzUnMFAHn5DP3/wwy+N3yvpFRvr7iDxe eE1jApGkhDZhlVBdJIqw3TNK73nPwDhHuA3fHbzSVI3qtOY6aQ+OTy78YQnQxh+mwZyE jn3cShisfooSLdsVSpaPO9X+FLkQ+yDy9A4jU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=eRxao2F4VTnSx+xDt/hqPeQB8n0e15fwXwfQOsMK5XTh7DlUQMuYs6/bvAEm8Ro/jT zTDYhq2L9fL0WqtTy/4we82frFvLVHMM7/y+UqTD5bBUPpbr7Vmn7G1dlE66aDssoFiJ xeQ/ggVX4nkyshJ8CPMNFM8h/EfuAW2LDqAlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.37.37 with SMTP id p37mr9987846waj.11.1261938193283; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091227183605.7b129c82.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091227183605.7b129c82.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how to modify date after unrar files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:23:27 -0000 Yeah, and I found there is a switch: ts[N] Save or restore file time (modification, creation, access) but what is the [N] supposed to mean? thanks!! TFC On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:27:53 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng > wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't know how to modify the time of files after it's extracted by > > unrar, the extracted file has the time that it's created on the other > side, > > but I want it to have time/date on my side, thank you!! > > In order to change access / modification time, just > > % touch > > and they'll have the correct date and time. Use -m > for modification time. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 18:46:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9121065672 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5BD8FC16 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRIkAcR084671; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:46:11 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBRIkAcR084671 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1261939571; bh=Vq5RyUfFSu3e+tFSeL/Bbf8w1HVgKQ46cxFpSq6t8X0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2027=20Dec=202009=2018:46:05=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20=3D?windows-1251?Q?=3DCA=3DEE=3DED=3DFC=3DEA=3DEE =3DE2_=3DC5=3DE2=3DE3=3DE5=3DED=3DE8=3DE9?=3D=0D=0A=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=2 0to=20force=20tar=20to=20be=20quiet?|References:=20<1846015154.200 91227185106@yandex.ru>|In-Reply-To:=20<1846015154.20091227185106@y andex.ru>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/s igned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/ pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2DB7EE4E793E 86A71DB5BC6C"; b=kgwdIrVH8fU+jgaxfnOMissVb1kpLYCgaeN+YSXYFj7gVN+TvKgrnAeK09GkEGNa6 ahhKt+YskqMy6zK+LBetNGtpibBG0x6ezosx3OXoOPuEnY4jvRjVX8iztcPPgIFFGu 1/I5mRt0ykIimn+bj0UeRj55ZtnsEeSWsB1/N7RU= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:46:05 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2_=C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9?= References: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2DB7EE4E793E86A71DB5BC6C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:46:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2DB7EE4E793E86A71DB5BC6C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wrote: > =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5, Freebsd-questions. >=20 > when > tar -cf file.tar /home/* > It always says: > tar: Removing leading '/' from member names >=20 > man tar > -P Preserve pathnames... > But I do not need to preserve. I want to tar without that warning. >=20 > How to force tar to be quiet? >=20 Don't give the leading '/' in path names. Like so: tar -cf file.tar -C / home Cheers, Matthew =20 --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2DB7EE4E793E86A71DB5BC6C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks3q3IACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzWQwCeP2dQQizUZuc1vnjorjtkAHZF QI0AmQEaBZt46g1q4OopkmUaOg3jU0fo =+JOK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2DB7EE4E793E86A71DB5BC6C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 20:00:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6274A106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1038B8FC1E for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRK04sG035675; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:00:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBRK04mK035672; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:00:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:00:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Simon Griffiths In-Reply-To: <00c901ca871b$bc41b510$34c51f30$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <00c101ca8715$75426930$5fc73b90$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> <00c901ca871b$bc41b510$34c51f30$@griffiths@tenenbaum.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:00:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Issues with make -j option on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:00:05 -0000 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Simon Griffiths wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Simon Griffiths wrote: >> >>> I seem to get errors with quite a few ports if I use the make -j >> option. >> >> Building with multiple jobs is part of the ports system for several >> months now. See the MAKE_JOBS variables in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. >> Overriding that with -j is going to try to force ports that aren't >> multiple-job-safe, probably causing the problems you're seeing. >> >> The preferred number of jobs defaults to the number of CPUs. That >> can be overridden with MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER. > > Ahh, that'll be where I'm going wrong then. Thank you very much :) > > Is this number only be overridden on the command line e.g. make > -DMAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=8 install clean... -D defines a variable (sets it to 1), or you can use variable=value, but doing both will create a variable called "MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=8" and set it to 1. So that should be make MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=8 install clean > or is there a file I could put this in, I'm thinking make.conf in /etc? Yes, you should be able to set it in /etc/make.conf. (AFAIK, anyway.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 20:10:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5642D106566B for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087C98FC17 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3E12F2680091; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:10:25 +0300 (MSK) Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.42.18]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 1948D5368001; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:10:24 +0300 (MSK) X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.2.6]:1372 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1261944852.23977 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:10:31 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1261944625 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp11.mail.yandex.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:10:27 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Matthew. Âû ïèñàëè 27 äåêàáðÿ 2009 ã., 20:46:05: MS> Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: >> Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Freebsd-questions. >> >> when >> tar -cf file.tar /home/* >> It always says: >> tar: Removing leading '/' from member names >> >> man tar >> -P Preserve pathnames... >> But I do not need to preserve. I want to tar without that warning. >> >> How to force tar to be quiet? >> MS> Don't give the leading '/' in path names. Like so: MS> tar -cf file.tar -C / home MS> Cheers, MS> Matthew # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc/* usr/local/etc/* usr/local/virtwww/* tar: No match. And next does not work as expected: # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc usr/local/etc usr/local/virtwww I get: boot etc mysite local sub usr virtwww Why local, sub, mysite, virtwww are in ROOT or tar??? 'local' must be under 'usr' 'virtwww' must be under 'local' 'mysite' must be under 'virtwww' but not in root Why I get that wrong result? Thank you -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 20:40:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50931106568F for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C988FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W11 ([65.55.90.8]) by snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:40:10 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [62.150.167.142] From: Marwan Sultan To: Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:40:10 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2009 20:40:10.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8A50EB0:01CA8734] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:40:11 -0000 =20 Dear Krad=2C Thank you for your reply=2C regarding your answer=2C i have few questions = here =20 1- in sshd_config file the default line is : Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server =20 So should i comment out the line? or just add your line ? Subsystem sftp internal-sftp 2- the SSH is the default one that comes with FreeBSD=2C I ofcourse didnot = compile SSH in the system. Are you asking me to install additional packages? or to recompile ssh when you wrote : "Make sure chroot support was compiled in" =20 3- SSH users are using passwords not keygen=2C where do i get the keys for = thier login?=20 =20 Thank you =20 - Marwan > > > > Hello people=2C > > Im on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5 > > > > Its easy to chroot ftp users - adding users to /etc/ftpchroot -makes th= e > > job easy. > > > > How about if I want to chroot the SSH users (not ftp) > > > > any easy way? no need for jail installation or anything like this.. >> > I saw sshd_config file and it has a chrootdirectory but not sure how t= o > > use it.. > > Anyone? any tips? any easy way? > > Thank you > > -Marwan > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. > > > >=20 >=20 > fairly easy if you read the man page 8) I wrote this howto for sun boxes = at > work but it was using openssh so same rules should apply. Make sure chroo= t > support was compiled in though >=20 >=20 > 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris > 10 are bundled with openssh though. > 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) > 3. Add these lines to sshd config >=20 > Match Group sftponly > ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u > X11Forwarding no > AllowTcpForwarding no > ForceCommand internal-sftp >=20 > 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this >=20 > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp >=20 > 5. create the sftponly group on the system > 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them > being able to ssh in!! > 7. Dead important this bit !!! >=20 > mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh > chown -R root /home/chroot/ > chown -R /home/chroot/ > chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ > ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. >=20 > 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh >=20 > All should now work >=20 > If not check /etc/shadow the account might be locked=2C this just caught = me > out :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" =20 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 21:06:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5910A106568D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155188FC19 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628F1EFBA; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:06:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBRL6ZfC005770; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:06:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:06:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2_=D0=95=D0=B2?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9?= Message-Id: <20091227220635.fcd005eb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> References: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:06:43 -0000 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:10:31 +0200, Коньков Евгений wrote: > # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc/* usr/local/etc/* usr/local/virtwww/* > tar: No match. > > And next does not work as expected: > # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc usr/local/etc usr/local/virtwww > > I get: > boot > etc > mysite > local > sub > usr > virtwww > > Why local, sub, mysite, virtwww are in ROOT or tar??? > 'local' must be under 'usr' > 'virtwww' must be under 'local' > 'mysite' must be under 'virtwww' > but not in root > > Why I get that wrong result? When * is specified on the command line, the shell will expand it. This causes the subtrees / subdirs (or their 1st level content) of /usr/local to be the subject of the archiving operation. Which shell are you using? Is it maybe not expanding * and instead taking it literally? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 21:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07AB106568D for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C578FC0C for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRL87Ri050192; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:08:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20091227210807.GA18660@thought.org> References: <20091226120028.0A8FC10657A0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091227001029.N28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091226230734.GD47231@thought.org> <20091227193035.K28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20091227193035.K28370@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_00, FB_NUMYO, J_CHICKENPOX_54 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:08:11 -0000 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:54:02PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wr= ote: > [..] > > > > Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-) --I just tried spkrte= st > > > > and have no /dev/speaker. =20 > > >=20 > > > # kldload speaker > >=20 > > Thanks! I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!] > > But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a > > real speaker. =20 > >=20 > > Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss > > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out.=20 > [..] > > > Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer le= vel. > >=20 > > Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then, > > right? I've got volume and power, treble/bass. >=20 > Depends entirely on whether the speaker is wired into the sound system. > If so, mixer will show a speaker device, eg on my 10y.o. Armada 1500c: >=20 > % mixer > Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer synth is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 92:92 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 51:51 > Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer line1 is currently set to 0:0 > Recording source: mic >=20 > cheers, Ian interesting what you can find out by googling around and following the online docs! oN my old/present Dell I have a "CS461x" which is probably in the museum by now. On the new Dell, catting /dev/sndstat says there are dual chip there.=20 <> p6 11:50 [5001] cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at irq 17 [GIANT] p3 11:50 [874] t /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) p3 11:50 [875] =01=09 Well, I just spend awhile tried to connect the sound plug on my KVM unit ... I have vim built; the BEL is the same slight beep as before. I only had a few inches and a dim flashlight. Seattle is like Siberia in lots of ways. it's time to try to find somebody who can check out my wires, cables, and so forth. =20 later on, gary --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 27 23:21:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A961065676; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456E38FC1C; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBRNL8JN050879; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:21:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:21:08 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "b. f." Message-ID: <20091227232108.GD18660@thought.org> References: <20091227080345.GA30917@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: ed@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:21:20 -0000 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 03:18:51AM -0500, b. f. wrote: > On 12/27/09, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote: > > > A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't > > the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click, at something well > > below middle-C: yes, this kind of thing is what I'm thinking of. > > Remember, you can control the pitch and duration of the bell, and this > can change the character of the sound substantially. Try it and see. Can you give me a few suggestions, pul-eze! > > > > What is ed's full email ed[at] where.org, please. > > Guess: FreeB _ _.org. :) (He's cc'ed.) > Sorry; it was late and my mid wa s fried. AT least that my excuse! > > > > If he'll give me the clues, I'll share in the hacking. It is time > > to get this feature builtin to the kernel. Off by default, and on > > at some user-tuneable values. > > If you are talking about doing this by making the keymaps more > flexible, it is easily user-configurable, though perhaps not in an > on/off fashion. ed@ was writing a new console driver for other > reasons, among them unicode support, and I don't know if he planned to > tinker with the keyboard-handling code beyond what would be required > for a interface to a different console driver, but he may be willing > to help. > By 'console driver', do you mean a tty driver? That my my first serious driver a *long* time ago. I'm thinking of something much simpler like the keyboard driver. Not even that; rather, the speaker driver that works via the console. I'm grepping around in /usr/src/sys/dev/*. I *will* find it, or wherever the code goes. It may take awhile. > > b. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 03:13:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0412A106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9163A8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so6999562ewy.3 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:13:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=qnpwqCZUrosAMbS6H3A3geAcViA4NhZZO8bAF1bHcp4=; b=Fr5G5E6W8BUZyxmVoMyX/YWc2zG/xnxRGRYLhJM6delC7o7UKLlzVStUOqpCisKV4i 5hEz0+BZGvaOHkANK7AQfWR8vgAvLE3OqUk7Q+ZR3uMk+KWnljiPGhekSEjuYVCY9JHJ wiwGL2+HjwrSRF/LsmKl83AFBmb77F3VO/Thk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=i6RO15wcJQPVixzceiDc4MBwv28kTWSh56XsLNZXe/1Pp+qN9AEkH9yVf4rJ6HuuPM aJxWgpDaa5XP0om8GOQd+F9bWQWF1HgJRVQ1huoARPa2uLXpYGTUJlKzrCkn2jfuUqr7 DTxKDvUfBJtQVc7tgZT5Wh73PxjhLP2gV2OLI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.73 with SMTP id t51mr2577136wee.155.1261970011119; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:13:31 -0800 (PST) From: APseudoUtopia Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280912271913v3f50ff8aua4e7d6647cc6a949@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: atrun: Missing Shared Object: libpam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:13:50 -0000 # /usr/libexec/atrun /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libpam.so.4" not found, required by "atrun" # find / -type f -name "libpam*" -ls 3274162 284 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 143412 Dec 5 04:48 /usr/lib/libpam.a 3273935 56 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 28296 Dec 4 20:33 /usr/lib/libpam.so.5 # uname -a FreeBSD x.x.x 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sat Dec 5 04:15:16 UTC 2009 root@x.x.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TTR i386 Is there a way to recompile at to use the new libpam library (5, instead of 4), without having to compile and/or install all of world? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 03:15:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996BA1065670 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01B38FC1D for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:15:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13391780 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:15:09 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBS3F9Ng038722 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:15:09 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBS3EwX4038704 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:14:58 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:14:58 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:15:11 -0000 David Kelly wrote: > > > > Colleagues, > > > > Am I the only one to have this problem? > > > No. > > Telling you more than I know: FreeBSD.org is moving (or has moved) > from CVS to SVN. Is my guess that what we are seeing is an artifact > of that move where data is hacked into cvs compatible format and all > cvsup can do is pull down the entire file. And nobody cares? > > I would be happy to use svn as I do for my own projects. To run a cvs repository, you just need /usr/bin/cvs started from inetd. It is even in the base system. To run a subversion repository, you need much more infrastructure and more overhead (lots of dependencies from ports, probably a Web server, a database backend etc). Besides, cvs is conveniently integrated with Kerberos (we use :gserver: all the time) which I am not sure is possible with subversion. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 04:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA121065695 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A288FC17 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBS465rQ039539 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:06:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B382EAC.6070409@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:06:04 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: acroread8 error: The security plug-in required by this command is unavailable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:06:06 -0000 When I am trying to open pdf file I get this error. This pdf is an ebook borrowed from the library. Is it possible to install this plug-in in any way? One of the web howtos suggests that there is something called "EBL plug-in" that is required. Thanks, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 05:46:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BED8106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBED8FC16 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:46:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13391970 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:46:48 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBS5kliV040742 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:46:47 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBS5kbFP040740 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:46:37 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:46:37 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:46:50 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: [dd] > > I would be happy to use svn as I do for my own projects. > > To run a cvs repository, you just need /usr/bin/cvs started from > inetd. It is even in the base system. > > To run a subversion repository, you need much more infrastructure and > more overhead (lots of dependencies from ports, probably a Web server, > a database backend etc). Besides, cvs is conveniently integrated with > Kerberos (we use :gserver: all the time) which I am not sure is > possible with subversion. I have just built and installed ports/devel/subversion on a fresh box. The port installed 17 dependent ports: apr-ipv6-gdbm-1.3.8.1.3.9 Apache Portability Library autoconf-2.62 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-wrapper-20071109 Wrapper script for GNU autoconf automake-1.9.6_3 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (1.9) automake-wrapper-20071109 Wrapper script for GNU automake expat-2.0.1 XML 1.0 parser written in C gdbm-1.8.3_3 The GNU database manager help2man-1.36.4_3 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o libiconv-1.13.1 A character set conversion library libtool-2.2.6b Generic shared library support script m4-1.4.13,1 GNU m4 neon28-0.28.6 An HTTP and WebDAV client library for Unix systems perl-5.8.9_3 Practical Extraction and Report Language python26-2.6.4 An interpreted object-oriented programming language sqlite3-3.6.19 An SQL database engine in a C library subversion-1.6.6_1 Version control system tcl-8.5.8 Tool Command Language tcl-modules-8.5.8 Tcl common modules There could have been more but I had disabled some crap like the BDB backend. Please compare all this with a single /usr/bin/cvs binary and be horrified. Of course it needs python26, perl and tcl - all the three of them. I don't think I want all this on every server I plan to makeworld on. To cut a long story short, I would rather continue using cvs, perhaps until there is subversion-light in the base system. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 08:09:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753191065679 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6D148FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Dec 2009 08:09:24 -0000 Received: from adsl-109.79.107.54.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.90]) [79.107.54.109] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 28 Dec 2009 09:09:24 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/xIFF9I6rx5EcHniCUgI9WMshvJcF5EoCWYNfB2g gS+A/VOc1TVmB8 Message-ID: <4B386798.30607@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:08:56 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200912262310826.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> <4B373A0F.1050005@gmx.com> <200912271336889.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <200912271336889.SM01748@W500.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.59 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which IP+gateway for Freebsd guest VM in VMware workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:09:26 -0000 On 12/27/2009 2:36 PM, Len Conrad wrote: >> Take a look here: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html > > thanks, I've been setting up FreeBSD for 10 years, and have multimple FreeBSD VMs running in several ESXi hosts. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I just didn't know your experience with FreeBSD. [snip] > The physical Ethernet adapter has a fixed public IP. I have only one public IP from the ISP. In the VMWare Virtual Network Editor, this i/f is listed as VNnet0, Type Bridged, Connected column is "-", and Subnet Address is "-" [snip] > I'd like to stay with bridged. You have only one IP address from your ISP, you can't use bridged, since bridged configuration will connect the guest's ethernet to another physical ethernet and that's all. You'll have to have another IP address to assign to the guest. Since you don't, you have to use some form of NAT to share the host's IP with the guest(s). > [snip] > ifconfig shows em0 with .98 and correct broadcast IP, but "status: no carrier" This is interesting, why a virtual ethernet would report "no carrier"? It probably indicates a "hardware" problem. Or at least a wrong combination of FreeBSD driver + VMware virtual hardware version. Could you boot another version of FreeBSD just to check if the em interface finds the ethernet's carrier? Assuming that you are trying to install 8.0 release, try the latest from the 7 branch... I recall that there were some problems with FreeBSD-8.0-CURRENT regarding em network interfaces a few months ago, but I never saw them myself and I was a heavy user of VMware workstation the months before 8.0 release. [snip] > I'd like to be able to ssh/ftp into the FreeBSD VM from Internet, so I'd prefer to stay away from DHCP for the FreeBSD VM networking. I am not really sure if you can achieve this, without a second IP address from your ISP. Can VMware workstation do any other form of NAT besides translating the host's IP to the guest's IP??? Anyway, investigate a bit more on the "no carrier" problem and post back to the list. Perhaps, another list that's a good candidate for such questions is: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation Though it mainly is for solutions running *on* FreeBSD, guys and girls there, tend to be knowledgeable about solutions running on *something* and having FreeBSD as a guest OS. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 08:29:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7E6106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-15.bnguk.net (atmail-15.bnguk.net [80.74.253.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C71D8FC19 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-15.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPAyr-0003nw-64; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:33 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 233BC4AC20; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:31 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: APseudoUtopia Message-ID: <20091228082931.GA32994@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: APseudoUtopia , FreeBSD Questions References: <27ade5280912271913v3f50ff8aua4e7d6647cc6a949@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27ade5280912271913v3f50ff8aua4e7d6647cc6a949@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: atrun: Missing Shared Object: libpam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:49 -0000 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:13:11PM -0500, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > # /usr/libexec/atrun > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libpam.so.4" not found, required by "atrun" > > # find / -type f -name "libpam*" -ls > 3274162 284 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel > 143412 Dec 5 04:48 /usr/lib/libpam.a > 3273935 56 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel > 28296 Dec 4 20:33 /usr/lib/libpam.so.5 > > # uname -a > FreeBSD x.x.x 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sat Dec 5 > 04:15:16 UTC 2009 root@x.x.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TTR i386 > > Is there a way to recompile at to use the new libpam library (5, > instead of 4), without having to compile and/or install all of world? > > Thanks. Yes, there is but what else hasn't been built/installed when you upgraded to 8.0? Did you miss out a step in the buildworld/installworld procedure or have a problem? It looks like the libraries have been built and installed correctly but atrun hasn't been. What's the date on the atrun binary? You can build atrun on it's own by: # cd /usr/src/libexec/atrun # make # make install Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 08:57:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAA81065694 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4016A8FC15 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Dec 2009 08:57:27 -0000 Received: from adsl-109.79.107.54.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.90]) [79.107.54.109] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 28 Dec 2009 09:57:27 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/15KVBgtT17H+wajT2ElLE1I/Mhfii10mW75N9Oz Phz04E8CP17m1H Message-ID: <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:57:07 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:57:29 -0000 On 12/28/2009 7:46 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > To cut a long story short, I would rather continue using cvs, perhaps > until there is subversion-light in the base system. I use successfully cvs for the same reasons. Most of the time I use the French mirror and I have also used the two USA ones. I haven't bother with Japan and Taiwan, since they're far away. Check this out: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/anoncvs.html Most of the time(99%) anoncvs.fr.FreeBSD.org seems to be in-sync with the main repositories... HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 09:12:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E921065670 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865E38FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13392578 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:12:02 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBS9C2sa044776 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:12:02 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBS9Bq8T044768 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:52 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:52 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091228091152.GA44636@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:05 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >To cut a long story short, I would rather continue using cvs, perhaps > >until there is subversion-light in the base system. > > I use successfully cvs for the same reasons. Most of the time I use the > French mirror and I have also used the two USA ones. I haven't bother > with Japan and Taiwan, since they're far away. Check this out: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/anoncvs.html > > Most of the time(99%) anoncvs.fr.FreeBSD.org seems to be in-sync > with the main repositories... Are you sure you understand me? I was talking about mirroring the whole repository with cvsup/cvsupd protocol, that's where the "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" error occurs. Actually I mirror the whole repository by cvsup from cvsup?.ru.freebsd.org and then make it available over cvs to a bunch of hosts at the local network. Updating every host in my network from anoncvs.fr.FreeBSD.org or a similar server would be a waste of bandwidth and resources. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 09:12:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128D91065710 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D906F8FC1B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id nBS9CCkA096460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id nBS9CCHC096459; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA28943; Mon, 28 Dec 09 01:09:35 PST Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:08:27 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: vas@mpeks.tomsk.su Message-Id: <4b38758b.qjCY0z9T5NfDegcO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:15 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > ... [svn] needs python26, perl and tcl - all the three of them ... It seems you may have discovered the significance of the name: it subverts the sysadmin's sanity. Maybe it can find practical use as a meta-port for scripting languages, if someone cares to add ruby to the mix ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 09:28:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5AD1065698 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE8D8FC13 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:28:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0FAKIJOEtR9SEI/2dsb2JhbACBSdAghDME Received: from 8.33-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.245.33.8]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2009 10:28:48 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBS9Sl8d002158; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:28:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:28:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912281028.47462.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: krad , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:28:55 -0000 On Sunday 27 December 2009 18:16:47 krad wrote: > fairly easy if you read the man page 8) I wrote this howto for sun > boxes at work but it was using openssh so same rules should apply. > Make sure chroot support was compiled in though > > 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris > 10 are bundled with openssh though. > 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) > 3. Add these lines to sshd config > > Match Group sftponly > ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u > X11Forwarding no > AllowTcpForwarding no > ForceCommand internal-sftp > > 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this > > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > 5. create the sftponly group on the system > 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them > being able to ssh in!! > 7. Dead important this bit !!! > > mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh > chown -R root /home/chroot/ > chown -R /home/chroot/ Shouldn't this line be: chown -R /home/chroot//home/ > chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ > ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. > > 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > All should now work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 10:05:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30205106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2A48FC18 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSA4rX6095890; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:04:54 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBSA4rX6095890 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1261994694; bh=tvQP11PVfycudNWC6KzVEh4Uj3LZIW4FLg/2KZbaiZU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B3882BF.7060104@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2028=20Dec=202009=2010:04:47=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20=3D?windows-1251?Q?=3DCA=3DEE=3DED=3DFC=3DEA=3DEE =3DE2_=3DC5=3DE2=3DE3=3DE5=3DED=3DE8=3DE9?=3D=0D=0A=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=2 0to=20force=20tar=20to=20be=20quiet?|References:=20<1846015154.200 91227185106@yandex.ru>=20<4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> =20<1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru>|In-Reply-To:=20<104725784 6.20091227221031@yandex.ru>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protoc ol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"---------- --enigF8B0696EB6432F384063A3AE"; b=Kul/YU44SpnBJbk84xKGZeF9umnvAIbxJBEfDIGmQ2wWoGmk+8h9TbUCnZXhBuIVR c35HjLGBJ7Ri2ls6sdS/SprXdxHg4w5oB8HXGzER6vziQzkKJMe6gTlwRU+MUr7EAb WBff1eQ6R21GqQwYXFLdviII8rQUuXdeMBrgy/qw= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B3882BF.7060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:04:47 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2_=C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9?= References: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF8B0696EB6432F384063A3AE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:05:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF8B0696EB6432F384063A3AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wrote: > =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5, Matthew. >=20 > =C2=FB =EF=E8=F1=E0=EB=E8 27 =E4=E5=EA=E0=E1=F0=FF 2009 =E3., 20:46:05:= >=20 > MS> =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wrote: >>> =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5, Freebsd-questions. >>> >>> when >>> tar -cf file.tar /home/* >>> It always says: >>> tar: Removing leading '/' from member names >>> >>> man tar >>> -P Preserve pathnames... >>> But I do not need to preserve. I want to tar without that warning. >>> >>> How to force tar to be quiet? >>> >=20 > MS> Don't give the leading '/' in path names. Like so: >=20 > MS> tar -cf file.tar -C / home >=20 > MS> Cheers, >=20 > MS> Matthew =20 >=20 > # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc/*= usr/local/etc/* usr/local/virtwww/* > tar: No match. Yep. As shown, you don't need '*' here. tar(1) is perfectly capable of = recursing through a directory hierarchy given only the name of the top level direct= ory. [ * is actually expanded by your shell, rather than tar, so it's trying t= o match filenames against your current working directory, and not against the dir= ectory the '-C' switches tar to.]=20 > And next does not work as expected: > # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc u= sr/local/etc usr/local/virtwww >=20 > I get: > boot > etc > mysite > local > sub > usr > virtwww Hmmm... I can't reproduce this locally. If I run: sudo tar -cf foo.tar -C / etc boot then I get (as expected) a tarball with the contents of /etc and /boot --= not only that, but there's nothing printed to stdout/stderr while the command= runs. Are any of the directories concerned symbolic links on your system? tar(= 1) handles sym-links quite carefully given that it's possible to use them to= generate specially crafted tar archives that you can use to trick an unwa= ry admin into overwriting security sensitive files. As a rule of thumb, whe= n specifying directory trees to back-up, try and avoid having any path comp= onents being symbolic links. > Why local, sub, mysite, virtwww are in ROOT or tar??? > 'local' must be under 'usr' > 'virtwww' must be under 'local' > 'mysite' must be under 'virtwww' > but not in root >=20 > Why I get that wrong result? You'ld need to tell us a lot more detail about your system before anyone = can answer that. We can guess -- the sym-link problems I talk about above ar= e my attempt -- and I can tell you that the command as stated works for me, wh= ere everything is installed in a single UFS2 filesystem and it's all arranged= in the natural directory tree without trying to rearrange chunks of filesystems = using sym-links. If you're doing anything different to that, then please say s= o. 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X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net 1NPCVs-0003S7-Bn 58d8016e486effd28338cd1f1ad6d6ef Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:08:57 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:46:37AM +0600, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > [dd] > > > > I would be happy to use svn as I do for my own projects. > > > > To run a cvs repository, you just need /usr/bin/cvs started from > > inetd. It is even in the base system. > > > > To run a subversion repository, you need much more infrastructure and > > more overhead (lots of dependencies from ports, probably a Web server, > > a database backend etc). Besides, cvs is conveniently integrated with > > Kerberos (we use :gserver: all the time) which I am not sure is > > possible with subversion. > > I have just built and installed ports/devel/subversion on a fresh box. > The port installed 17 dependent ports: Several of which are only build-dependencies. If you were to install subversion as a package far fewer dependencies would be installed. Of the ports you list autoconf/automake, libtool, help2man, perl, python, and tcl (and possibly some more) are only needed when building the port. > > apr-ipv6-gdbm-1.3.8.1.3.9 Apache Portability Library > autoconf-2.62 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms > autoconf-wrapper-20071109 Wrapper script for GNU autoconf > automake-1.9.6_3 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (1.9) > automake-wrapper-20071109 Wrapper script for GNU automake > expat-2.0.1 XML 1.0 parser written in C > gdbm-1.8.3_3 The GNU database manager > help2man-1.36.4_3 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o > libiconv-1.13.1 A character set conversion library > libtool-2.2.6b Generic shared library support script > m4-1.4.13,1 GNU m4 > neon28-0.28.6 An HTTP and WebDAV client library for Unix systems > perl-5.8.9_3 Practical Extraction and Report Language > python26-2.6.4 An interpreted object-oriented programming language > sqlite3-3.6.19 An SQL database engine in a C library > subversion-1.6.6_1 Version control system > tcl-8.5.8 Tool Command Language > tcl-modules-8.5.8 Tcl common modules > > There could have been more but I had disabled some crap like the BDB > backend. > > Please compare all this with a single /usr/bin/cvs binary and be > horrified. Of course it needs python26, perl and tcl - all the three > of them. I don't think I want all this on every server I plan to > makeworld on. > > To cut a long story short, I would rather continue using cvs, perhaps > until there is subversion-light in the base system. > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 11:45:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B629D106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D288FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13393091 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:44:59 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBSBixY3047198 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:44:59 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBSBimPB047182 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:44:48 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:44:48 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091228114448.GA46990@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228100741.GA83379@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228100741.GA83379@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:01 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > > > > I would be happy to use svn as I do for my own projects. > > > > > > To run a cvs repository, you just need /usr/bin/cvs started from > > > inetd. It is even in the base system. > > > > > > To run a subversion repository, you need much more infrastructure and > > > more overhead (lots of dependencies from ports, probably a Web server, > > > a database backend etc). Besides, cvs is conveniently integrated with > > > Kerberos (we use :gserver: all the time) which I am not sure is > > > possible with subversion. > > > > I have just built and installed ports/devel/subversion on a fresh box. > > The port installed 17 dependent ports: > > Several of which are only build-dependencies. If you were to install > subversion as a package far fewer dependencies would be installed. I agree, but then it would be compiled with BDB support which I loathe. (I have a reason to loathe BDB after using spamprobe with BDB backend for some time). (Of course, I always have the option to make my own package, I know that). BTW, does svn allow mirroring the whole FreeBSD repository (like cvsup in CVS mode), so that I can later checkout any branch from the local repository? > > Of the ports you list autoconf/automake, libtool, help2man, perl, python, and > tcl (and possibly some more) are only needed when building the port. Sure, but even as a package it would depend on expat-2.0.1 neon28-0.28.6 sqlite3-3.6.19 gdbm-1.8.3_3 libiconv-1.13.1 apr-ipv6-gdbm-1.3.8.1.3.9 -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 13:05:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE9B1065672 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D178FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.209]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:05:08 -0800 Message-ID: <4B38ACF9.2050705@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:57 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4B296E66.6030405@a1poweruser.com> <20091217064959.e62bfdbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091217151140.GA40367@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20091217151140.GA40367@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2009 13:05:08.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[618CE4C0:01CA87BE] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:05:13 -0000 How is this rewrite correct? Users with Microsoft/Windows knowledge of how a hard drive is configured may have a terminology issue with FreeBSD. Microsoft/Windows and FreeBSD use the word partition to mean different (but related) things. The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary dos partition” and “extended dos partition”. A single “primary dos partition” occupying all the space on the hard drive would be assigned drive letter C. You can also sub-divide the hard drive into multiple “primary dos partition” each one being assigned a drive letter C, D, E, F, An alternate method is to allocate an “extended dos partition” and then sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. One of these “primary dos partitions” or one of the logical dos drives in the “extended dos partition” must be set as the active partition to boot from. In a multiple partition allocation only one partition can be marked as bootable at one time. Typically legacy Microsoft/Windows Win3.1, Win95, Win98, WinMe, and Win2000 defaulted to a single “primary dos partition”. Starting with XP, PC manufactures started to provide support for their PC’s operating system by having a second “primary dos partition” where the original factory version of the system was hidden and used to restore the C drive back to the factory version when corrupted by a virus. Microsoft/Windows provides no native method of selecting which partition to boot from in a multiple partition allocation. FreeBSD’s fdisk program allocates disk space into slices. A FreeBSD slice is the same thing as a Microsoft/Windows “primary dos partition”. FreeBSD has nothing akin to an “extended dos partition”. The Microsoft/Windows partition and the FreeBSD slice is where the operating system software is installed. Microsoft/Windows operating system creates default folders that share the space in the partition. The FreeBSD ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into smaller chunks called partitions. In a standard install of FreeBSD, these partitions are the default directory names used by the operating system. The motherboard standard which was created in the days before windows desktop were even though of yet and at which time Microsoft DOS (disk operating system) was the only thing available. This legacy standard has continued un-updated to this current time and contributes to the limitations imposed on booting, disk layout and selection of which allocation on the hard disk to boot from. The motherboard BIOS ROM chip at power up inquires each device (floppies, cdrom, hard drive, usb memory stick) you selected in the BIOS menu to boot from. The hard drive has a MBR (Master Boot Record) a (512 byte block) located in sector-0 of the first physical track on the hard drive. This MBR contains bootstrap code and the disk partition table created by the fdisk program. The BIOS boot code reads the MBR code and disk partition table into memory and then transfers control to it. This MBR code is responsible for parsing the partition table and finding the bootable slice/partition that is marked 'active'. The MBR code then sets up the disk-address-offset information for the bootable slice/partition, and reads 'relative sector zero' from that slice/partition, and transfers control to that one-sector block of code that contains the unique operating system code to load it into memory. This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Do to it’s size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. This means no matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. The default MBR code written by the Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is hard coded to boot the C drive. The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. There are MBR boot menu programs in the FreeBSD ports collection that you can load into the MBR on the first physical cabled hard drive to scan for other bootable primary-partitions/slices on this hard drive and any other hard drives cabled to the PC. It displays a menu giving you the option to choose which one you want to boot from. This gives you the ability to have more that one operating system installed on your PC at one time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 14:14:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC53106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C578FC1E for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9031F43A; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:14:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBSEEGQE001526; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:14:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:14:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd1 Message-Id: <20091228151416.07a2f22d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B38ACF9.2050705@a1poweruser.com> References: <4B296E66.6030405@a1poweruser.com> <20091217064959.e62bfdbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091217151140.GA40367@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4B38ACF9.2050705@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:14:20 -0000 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:57 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on > the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary > dos partition†and “extended dos partitionâ€. Just a formal addition: "primary DOS partition" - DOS stands for "Disk Operating System", it's an abbreviation. You're stating this later on, but you should do it at its first occurance. > A single “primary dos partition†occupying all the space on the hard > drive would be assigned drive letter C. The "drive letters" used seem to include the ":" as a part, so it would be "C:" instead of plain "C". > An alternate method is to allocate an “extended dos partition†and then > sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. I think the term is "logical volume inside an extended DOS partition"; I'm not very familiar with their english names, but that would correspond to the correct german name (found in german versions of DOS); the term is "volume" or "drive". I've got no english DOS documentation here, so I can't check for the correct term. German: "Primäre DOS-Partition" and "Logisches Laufwerk in einer erweiterten DOS-Partition", and "Laufwerk" means "drive", but I think I recall that DOS uses "volume" for this... > One of these > “primary dos partitions†or one of the logical dos drives in the > “extended dos partition†must be set as the active partition to boot > from. I'm not sure you can actually boot from a logical volume inside an extended DOS partition... as far as I remember, booting can only take place from a primary DOS partition. > FreeBSD’s fdisk program allocates disk space into slices. A FreeBSD > slice is the same thing as a Microsoft/Windows “primary dos partitionâ€. > FreeBSD has nothing akin to an “extended dos partitionâ€. It quite has - its slices (which are subdivided just as the extended DOS partitions are, so its partitions are like - but not the same as - the logical volumes inside a DOS extended partition). > The > Microsoft/Windows partition and the FreeBSD slice is where the operating > system software is installed. No. The software is installed on the partitions inside a slice, or, to be more exact, in the file system that the partition holds. There can be of course one partition coviering the whole slice, so "partition(s)" would be a valid term. > The FreeBSD > ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into smaller chunks > called partitions. In a standard install of FreeBSD, these partitions > are the default directory names used by the operating system. Not "are" - they _refer_ to them (or are refered to by then), e. g. the default directory name / is the root directory, but /dev/ad0s1a is the partition; /usr is the directory for { UNIX system resources | user binaries and libraries }, but /dev/ad0s1g is (maybe) the partition that holds this data. In settings where one partition convers the whole slice, there are no further mountpoints for the divisions of functional parts of the system. > The motherboard standard which was created in the days before windows > desktop were even though of yet and at which time Microsoft DOS (disk > operating system) was the only thing available. Sure. :-) > This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Do to > it’s size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. Due to its size... > This means no > matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only > sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. 20MB. But I'd like to have a 20 machine gun hard disk, too. :-) > The default MBR code written by the Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is > hard coded to boot the C drive. The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to > write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. You could add that this program is called the "FreeBSD boot manager", because that's its actual name. Everything else seems to be correct to me, as well as written in an appealing way, and technically understandable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:15:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BB106568B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E24A8FC0C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPHK6-00007z-ML for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:57 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPHK5-0003YG-Vv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSFFr5g007496 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:53 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBSFFrCl007495 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:53 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:53 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:15:58 -0000 I use fetchmail http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html to download all my mail from the Uni mail server to my fbsd box. I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc I'm a little worried about the security of having my password in plain text on the system. Is there a more secure arrangement that would still allow running fetchmail in daemon mode? Or maybe there is another software solution alltogether? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:16:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5343B1065693 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward10.mail.yandex.net (forward10.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41AB8FC2A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.mail.yandex.net (smtp10.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.36]) by forward10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9060B13202D3; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:16:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.42.18]) by smtp10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 8B4A710900DA; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:16:15 +0300 (MSK) X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.2.13]:4317 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1262013615.97052 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:16:16 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <308399180.20091228171616@yandex.ru> To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B3882BF.7060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <1846015154.20091227185106@yandex.ru> <4B37AB6D.3020507@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1047257846.20091227221031@yandex.ru> <4B3882BF.7060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1262013375 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp10.mail.yandex.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to force tar to be quiet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:16:19 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Matthew. Âû ïèñàëè 28 äåêàáðÿ 2009 ã., 12:04:47: #cd / # ls -l total 5111 -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 786 7 ñåí 2008 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 253 7 ñåí 2008 .profile drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 8 îêò 2008 .snap -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6188 7 ñåí 2008 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 21 íîÿ 2008 bin drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 16 èþí 2009 boot lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 8 îêò 2008 compat -> usr/compat dr-xr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 15 äåê 18:41 dev lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 23 íîÿ 2008 e -> /usr/local/etc -rw------- 1 root wheel 4096 9 íîÿ 01:02 entropy drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 2560 25 äåê 22:43 etc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 8 îêò 2008 home -> usr/home drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 21 íîÿ 2008 lib drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 21 íîÿ 2008 libexec lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 36 13 ÿíâ 2009 m -> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 7 ñåí 2008 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 7 ñåí 2008 mnt lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 14 äåê 2008 p -> /home/kes/projects/ dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 0 28 äåê 17:14 proc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 23 íîÿ 2008 r -> /usr/local/etc/rc.d -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4787 15 äåê 18:42 razor-agent.log drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 21 íîÿ 2008 rescue drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 3 íîÿ 20:53 root lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 5 äåê 2008 s -> /usr/local/sharedzone drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 21 íîÿ 2008 sbin lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 21 íîÿ 2008 sys -> usr/src/sys -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 1854498 28 äåê 07:40 test drwxrwxrwt 12 root wheel 520192 28 äåê 15:34 tmp drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 3 ÿíâ 2009 usr lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 4 äåê 2008 v -> /usr/local/virtwww drwxr-xr-x 29 root wheel 512 15 äåê 18:41 var -rw------- 1 root wheel 2727936 11 äåê 10:56 verlihub.core # uname -a FreeBSD kes.net.ua 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 3 01:15:39 EET 2009 kes@kes.net.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v7 i386 # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad1s1a 496M 267M 189M 59% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad1s1f 496M 116M 340M 26% /tmp /dev/ad1s1g 38G 21G 14G 61% /usr /dev/ad1s1e 7.7G 6.1G 1.0G 86% /var /dev/ad1s1d 23G 8.0K 21G 0% /usr/local/squid procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev Shell I use: /bin/sh To reproduce try next: NOTICE i have more than two (as in your example) directories to tar I have two of them with same begin path: usr/local usr/local/etc usr/local/virtwww MS> Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: >> Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Matthew. >> >> Âû ïèñàëè 27 äåêàáðÿ 2009 ã., 20:46:05: >> >> MS> Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: >>>> Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Freebsd-questions. >>>> >>>> when >>>> tar -cf file.tar /home/* >>>> It always says: >>>> tar: Removing leading '/' from member names >>>> >>>> man tar >>>> -P Preserve pathnames... >>>> But I do not need to preserve. I want to tar without that warning. >>>> >>>> How to force tar to be quiet? >>>> >> >> MS> Don't give the leading '/' in path names. Like so: >> >> MS> tar -cf file.tar -C / home >> >> MS> Cheers, >> >> MS> Matthew >> >> # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc/* usr/local/etc/* usr/local/virtwww/* >> tar: No match. MS> Yep. As shown, you don't need '*' here. tar(1) is perfectly capable of recursing MS> through a directory hierarchy given only the name of the top level directory. MS> [ * is actually expanded by your shell, rather than tar, so it's trying to match MS> filenames against your current working directory, and not against the directory MS> the '-C' switches tar to.] >> And next does not work as expected: >> # tar -cf /home/kes/backup/conf/aaa_etc.tar -C / boot/loader.conf etc usr/local/etc usr/local/virtwww >> >> I get: >> boot >> etc >> mysite >> local >> sub >> usr >> virtwww MS> Hmmm... I can't reproduce this locally. If I run: MS> sudo tar -cf foo.tar -C / etc boot MS> then I get (as expected) a tarball with the contents of /etc and /boot -- not MS> only that, but there's nothing printed to stdout/stderr while the command runs. MS> Are any of the directories concerned symbolic links on your system? tar(1) MS> handles sym-links quite carefully given that it's possible to use them to MS> generate specially crafted tar archives that you can use to trick an unwary MS> admin into overwriting security sensitive files. As a rule of thumb, when MS> specifying directory trees to back-up, try and avoid having any path components MS> being symbolic links. >> Why local, sub, mysite, virtwww are in ROOT or tar??? >> 'local' must be under 'usr' >> 'virtwww' must be under 'local' >> 'mysite' must be under 'virtwww' >> but not in root >> >> Why I get that wrong result? MS> You'ld need to tell us a lot more detail about your system before anyone can MS> answer that. We can guess -- the sym-link problems I talk about above are my MS> attempt -- and I can tell you that the command as stated works for me, where MS> everything is installed in a single UFS2 filesystem and it's all arranged in the MS> natural directory tree without trying to rearrange chunks of filesystems using MS> sym-links. If you're doing anything different to that, then please say so. -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:43:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED110656EE for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB66D8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13086 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2009 15:43:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Dec 2009 15:43:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 49A8F5086C; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:43:35 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: cronfy References: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:43:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: (cronfy@gmail.com's message of "Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:31:00 +0300") Message-ID: <44iqbr5ck9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Max kernel dump size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:43:38 -0000 cronfy writes: > How can I calculate max kernel dump size? I want to create my swap partition > as small as possible, just to fit kernel dump needs. I'm not sure you really can. You'll definitely have enough if you allow a bit more than you have memory, but these days that's going to be overkill most of the time. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:45:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F04106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank.wissmann41@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8BC8FC13 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9709214AA312C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:45:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [77.176.198.2] (helo=grissom.einundvierzig.org) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1NPHmP-0001h5-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:45:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4B38D2B3.2060005@web.de> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:45:55 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091214) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18UXHvx7+9Cav7o2nboqGMBnEr1pVRtO799JDRj nB0FjWLl/vlGZlMPlDVbAbwGOc1c2YWwbGYi8jOHhsrwAXwqea baocLVKq7CRZPWBhwdBQ== Subject: Missing library building "Amarok" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank.wissmann41@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:45:11 -0000 Hi all! When building "Amarok" I get the following message: Error: shared library "sgutils.1" does not exist How can I obtain more information about it and where can I get it? Greetings Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? When pack meets pack in the jungle and no one will move from the trail wait till the leaders have spoken it may be fair words shall prevail (Rudyard Kipling) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C79106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C898FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so10201274fxm.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:49:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T/GGhXUwg7s7I3EKXvX9dSy/VZF9/IqBqOr9VQZgfeU=; b=bolL0o3DYZnhaLZuMY7PLn/j6BPneBZXww/8MOdx1vNuapJ0Svy90pObApcg47EeU6 2r0iQJHEdjcanKRIjBkJ0qmSoET9ivdsOce2XQNOv/5jBFMIgTp9wngQenQYKnrH9KZs iuF5iCiC7V7ReVIr+/guQQUfZNyoKSIMhUTos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xOgam08r+531eBCX7nALMLVid89vfmLJaGlsMuULmIwWVlVHpwUAJ4BS8fEwni2i+N IpQeTrWx//YjVYXHqFlMgTDpAIKkzWQKqWcdOmzst+G98aicXYsUkaV/E8S5CcHLpUYe Y++pBBKkfeMhvoBGujWgddltof157DSkZEbBY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.188.145 with SMTP id p17mr1659762hbh.175.1262015394151; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:49:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912281028.47462.tijl@coosemans.org> References: <200912281028.47462.tijl@coosemans.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Tijl Coosemans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:59 -0000 2009/12/28 Tijl Coosemans > On Sunday 27 December 2009 18:16:47 krad wrote: > > fairly easy if you read the man page 8) I wrote this howto for sun > > boxes at work but it was using openssh so same rules should apply. > > Make sure chroot support was compiled in though > > > > 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later > solaris > > 10 are bundled with openssh though. > > 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 > better) > > 3. Add these lines to sshd config > > > > Match Group sftponly > > ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u > > X11Forwarding no > > AllowTcpForwarding no > > ForceCommand internal-sftp > > > > 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this > > > > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > > > 5. create the sftponly group on the system > > 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop > them > > being able to ssh in!! > > 7. Dead important this bit !!! > > > > mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > chown -R root /home/chroot/ > > chown -R /home/chroot/ > > Shouldn't this line be: > chown -R /home/chroot//home/ strictly yes I probably missed i step where i sym linked it as i was copying stuff from the shell history > > > chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ > > ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. > > > > 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > > > All should now work > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 15:58:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E492106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186518FC1E for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so74031fgg.13 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:58:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=f1yTMx+ny/59JnK7YZdKVEwZqTMLY28oykTLzJT/ccE=; b=t/kkE6mPH0NrZwtO6x0XFxlz1qlXIr2d3kjrKXG5scfBeRaNZ4WHHvM+3rjGcLu5Q4 OXm8c3DaqejKJ+tdSm5fTPBni1JjV5X9VUTtTkqpXw7uGW1C9YjpGgVOUfzScvwucVpF 1WMK32nNLlK5AC0OJtQUjg5E702LgNz/oDyWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mQlH89gIRM0bcU8a62BZWFj/67derlL1uGS8gaNY0jaPcdv1xpavHpk16YE2NpQMn1 2TgehWW0lWkx0AeSpneLzycMNThbYMIZCVTPldt3ZckcUBoAV7dB5RfYp0+qs6GG4jf1 kHHmuqBjsqWlOrKCK5uODlzlIK+uh6QuQJYxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.138 with SMTP id k10mr1955352hbe.100.1262015898113; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:58:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:58:17 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Marwan Sultan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: chroot SSH users. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:58:23 -0000 2009/12/27 Marwan Sultan > > Dear Krad, > Thank you for your reply, regarding your answer, i have few questions here > > 1- > in sshd_config file the default line is : > Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server > > So should i comment out the line? or just add your line ? > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > Either should work, however I only know that the one i put works. > 2- the SSH is the default one that comes with FreeBSD, I ofcourse didnot > compile > SSH in the system. Are you asking me to install additional packages? > or to recompile ssh when you wrote : > > "Make sure chroot support was compiled in" > > Default should probably be ok, but again I haven't actually tested it so cant say for certain. If you do ever upgrade the base ssh from ports make sure you have the chroot bit compiled in > 3- SSH users are using passwords not keygen, where do i get the keys for > thier > login? > > Thank you > > - Marwan > > You don't need to use key based auth, but we I generally do. The users have to create them with ssh-keygen. I usually use dsa. If you support windows users stay away from puttygen. It does work fine, its just it tends to generate keys in the wrong format which often leads to confusion. > > > > > > > Hello people, > > > > Im on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5 > > > > > > Its easy to chroot ftp users - adding users to /etc/ftpchroot -makes > the > > > job easy. > > > > > > How about if I want to chroot the SSH users (not ftp) > > > > > > any easy way? no need for jail installation or anything like this.. > >> > I saw sshd_config file and it has a chrootdirectory but not sure how > to > > > use it.. > > > Anyone? any tips? any easy way? > > > Thank you > > > -Marwan > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > > > > > > > > > > > fairly easy if you read the man page 8) I wrote this howto for sun boxes > at > > work but it was using openssh so same rules should apply. Make sure > chroot > > support was compiled in though > > > > > > 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris > > > 10 are bundled with openssh though. > > 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) > > 3. Add these lines to sshd config > > > > > Match Group sftponly > > ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u > > X11Forwarding no > > AllowTcpForwarding no > > ForceCommand internal-sftp > > > > 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this > > > > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > > > 5. create the sftponly group on the system > > 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them > > > being able to ssh in!! > > 7. Dead important this bit !!! > > > > > mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > chown -R root /home/chroot/ > > chown -R /home/chroot/ > > chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ > > ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. > > > > 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > > > > All should now work > > > > If not check /etc/shadow the account might be locked, this just caught me > > out :) > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up > now. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 16:27:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1741065697 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D534C8FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so10228242fxm.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=oJOeIlPgpUenmuAJSCzN7QlpxVszyuUEMCriwwBm4Mo=; b=LKYNXd3GHnH0pl575oE0o39x3o7HIs4piPbDvFiyQJGbVEedrtAbXvsIthsLXQqWqu YDj9fC0GbI0FSXrRqaPrZGfSjC2R5kuGOPDFkQFKIaAhYhQjpQQdM8/yBuC958ANBzIH Erdf2/sTrPLqYv0mwi1Snu2ri+OuQcu65FI34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=BkCUdBjLD8tByHbrKg4uOzcS65dGpDmbnhbJCQcYwsLKFxIOIDzs4CZsn4sf/prssy rDDApTus+KTkFNfBGrZsTXCCpIPQeMr/NbdDxb2+HeQ+rmXdgmxH0JmkUEiqJ+ogn729 1mYebDgWhGGlmHc/yT+L9L3g514jSThNmm5Cw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.21 with SMTP id b21mr9481148fab.104.1262017634123; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <44iqbr5ck9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <44iqbr5ck9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: cronfy Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:26:54 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Max kernel dump size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:18 -0000 > > How can I calculate max kernel dump size? I want to create my swap > partition > > as small as possible, just to fit kernel dump needs. > > I'm not sure you really can. You'll definitely have enough if you allow > a bit more than you have memory, but these days that's going to be > overkill most of the time. > > Yes, at this time I use SWAP = RAM + 1G formula. And yes, this is an overkill especially for expensive SAS drives. I've noticed that my kernel dumps do not exceed 2-3.5G usually. Maybe I can collect stats for amount of Active memory used and assume that kernel dump will not get larger than, say, Active memory + 50%? -- // cronfy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 17:09:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6961065676 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D5858FC18 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Dec 2009 17:09:33 -0000 Received: from adsl-109.79.107.54.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.90]) [79.107.54.109] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 28 Dec 2009 18:09:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/42j0fUIj4kvz+TiCfWswEJkA5LrsYNinuyXMHF5 1LA7dSAsu9u3qf Message-ID: <4B38E632.9090307@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:09:06 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> <20091228091152.GA44636@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20091228091152.GA44636@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:09:36 -0000 On 12/28/2009 11:11 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Are you sure you understand me? I was talking about mirroring the > whole repository with cvsup/cvsupd protocol, that's where the > "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" error occurs. Sorry, I missed the part of conversation about cvs mode in cvsup. I thought you were talking about cvs not working... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 17:16:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB8010656A6 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79348FC1B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so9617143yxe.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:16:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3EwVwoNqDau0k15M0lTNp0ZP6oaef33+dwqvGvP2M/8=; b=fa5pxF/O5cFsGUD0iPiw82ievAbQy1T/o5P+FwNLOczPqxx/CRu7xH9mLjxB5XZz8N p0XhSKqvyTfX258Tc8BV+bsNjxY1mMJhvr1ed0e2a2XuGTZJNcXrOe8ONPgQCiZoqyqQ Xmo48AVkux+SIDH6Kkp4A/miWeBJUN6Xl9KOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cq5P5NIDalTO1Col5MZwilZERQEUJ6R7dvs7yzw6KhJ50IfYmMfDPLTy+0CzXruClH yH2YG3SjnMv4GLJ1tAB7lz5UBRcWK1pOnuPippbOneQpmdKH4nC8Z3IFM6gVXxYAuoGf qHvBGrchEo30Yd0zNo9GBSvusCq3gfZ1sIIOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.151.14 with SMTP id d14mr7477602ago.20.1262020603728; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:16:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091227183605.7b129c82.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Subject: Re: how to modify date after unrar files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:16:51 -0000 2009/12/27 Tsu-Fan Cheng : > Yeah, and I found there is a switch: > > ts[N] =A0Save or restore file time (modification, creation, access= ) > > but what is the [N] supposed to mean? thanks!! > Without myself expending the effort, I'd guess epoch time. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 17:35:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2156A106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901BC8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBSHZFGC058782; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:35:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3BEB0BA9D; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:35:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:35:15 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:35:22 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use fetchmail > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.= html > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > server to my fbsd box. >=20 > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires > having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc >=20 > I'm a little worried about the security of having > my password in plain text on the system. chown you:yourgroup ~/.fetchmailrc chmod 400 ~/.fetchmailrc With these changes, only you and the superuser can read that file.=20 You could put your /home directory on an ecrypted partition, so that ~/.fetchmailrc is only readable when /home is mounted. Note that this only provides protection after the machine has been powered down. > Is there a more secure arrangement that would > still allow running fetchmail in daemon mode? I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if your mailserver allows = it. > Or maybe there is another software solution > alltogether? Presumably you are running a mailserver on your box. You can ask the administrator to forward mail to your machine by making an MX record for it. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks47FMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV0uQCfRI2uCspb3brUw1tQyTnIe4ow 2wMAn0hCfgvwNQ0GxqZVHftSC+uhEN6g =eUVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 17:39:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA971065693 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5F08FC19 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7057724iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:39:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=sz+HS1zaT6NlXcgjozqmplu6L4zzoVJ/zeOOikt3HvA=; b=cxcXhx4Mwgo+w+pLZPnqoVPeWJr/Nwvte2OvcYy3sdjVrhHMOQcC/7lzBDLMopUx0n trKllAZVesSI6bAhKFa4AusfonX5v5HBNszXxx+pBlL/mhPvMOUyaL+mSGHrel7VJFY7 /kTSZJ5pT5c0votaVCGshuaEiDPHySk4p77TI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vS1atUlgo/C9jQwYDF+dGwQ49yyFcT9OB+3rZiGVZE3bI8z9t6BoOQwFYSeYgnLuJr +jsDVeiNR9/nZ8AhovUfjYCwWmgzVUwrJ2g1UyAdosxRuEhXGid6CIUCpYdUgSeG6XjZ r1DtE0MOtbrSBImU7GnfHjJbeHwUW7AL5Lm48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.123.216 with SMTP id q24mr3149552ibr.43.1262020167750; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:09:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:09:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ishmael F.E." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFBandwidth_limit_to_31kBps_for_wlan=3F?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:39:06 -0000 Hi list I have this little issue with my wireless card: No matter where I am or what I'm downloading, I just can't download at more than 31kBps ever (only while using BSD). What should I do to be able to download faster? The bandwidth should be ~400kBps I'm using 8.0. /boot/loader.conf: bcmwl5_load="yes" #I'm using the ndis driver . . /etc/rc.conf: netif_enable="YES" synchronous_dhclient="YES" wlans_ndis0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" . . pciconf -lv : ndis0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x1366103c chip=0x432814e4 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'Broadcom 432AGN 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Solution (BCM4321KFBG)' class = network . . ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 inet 192.168.0.00 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.3.255 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/54Mbps mode 11g status: associated ssid Q... channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:00:00:00 country US authmode WPA privacy OFF powersavemode CAM powersavesleep 100 txpower 0 bmiss 7 mcastrate 6 mgmtrate 6 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS roaming MANUAL bintval 0 -- [============================] [En muchos lugares, tomar fotos es visto como] [una costumbre vil y reprensible ] [============================] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:01:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33401065679 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B15E8FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBSI1UMs036973 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 -0000 I have been trying to get xorg 7.4 first going and then updated. I have some general questions. First using xdm it takes from 3-5 minutes to start. Second, using hal and dbus even starting is an adventure. Once it started in well under a minute but mostly it just locks up. In reading Xorg.0.log and xdm.log, I see no errors. Is my time-to-start out of line? Using hal and dbus was working fine until I attempted updating xorg using portmaster, trying 'portmaster -n -PP xorg'. This gave me a list that seemed reasonable so I tried it for real, getting an error about finding an archive that I did not understand and the man page did not address. So I installed portupgrade and the 'hal dbus' version of xdm stopped working. I view this as coincidence but switching back to not using hal and dbus and using the ati driver (rather than radeon) works. As it appears that kde4 depends on having xorg updated, I am kind of stuck. Is the time-to-start an indication that I have a basic hardware issue and all my other symptoms derive that that? My last question is does kde4 require hal or dbus to be activiated? Doug _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:20:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D70E1065672 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAA68FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NPKCK-000862-9z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:20:04 +0100 Received: from 5-178.dsl.iskon.hr ([89.164.5.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:20:04 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 5-178.dsl.iskon.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:20:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:10:53 +0100 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <4B2B0790.2010005@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 5-178.dsl.iskon.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: Confusion About "FreeBSD now supports host and guest modes in VirtualBox" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:20:09 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Ryan Ware wrote: >> Maybe someone here can distribute some enlightenment. In the press >> release for 8.0 it says, "FreeBSD now supports host and guest modes in >> VirtualBox". I understand what the host mode support is with the >> VirtualBox port. What I don't understand is what support for guest >> mode is. I don't see anything anywhere about guest additions. As far >> as I can tell, guest support seems to consist of simply allowing the >> kernel to run in VirtualBox. Am I missing something? > > AFAIK no, that's it. Actually, it looks like the newest version (will arrive to ports soon) has guest tools/additions for FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:45:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1CD1065693 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71908FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSIj4KY040550; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBSIj4KN040547; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@safeport.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:05 -0000 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I have been trying to get xorg 7.4 first going and then updated. I have some > general questions. First using xdm it takes from 3-5 minutes to start. > Second, using hal and dbus even starting is an adventure. Once it started in > well under a minute but mostly it just locks up. In reading Xorg.0.log and > xdm.log, I see no errors. Is my time-to-start out of line? Yes. For testing, disable xdm and try just "startx". If that's still slow, try "Xorg -retro" (ctrl-alt-backspace to quit, or maybe ctrl-alt-fn to switch back to the console running X and ctrl-c). I've heard of very slow starting with xdm but never got feedback to determine the problem. > Using hal and dbus was working fine until I attempted updating xorg using > portmaster, trying 'portmaster -n -PP xorg'. This gave me a list that seemed > reasonable so I tried it for real, getting an error about finding an archive > that I did not understand and the man page did not address. So I installed > portupgrade and the 'hal dbus' version of xdm stopped working. I view this as > coincidence but switching back to not using hal and dbus and using the ati > driver (rather than radeon) works. What video board do you have? What is in your xorg.conf? The ATI driver is just an autoloader; if you have a Radeon, it'll load that anyway. > As it appears that kde4 depends on having xorg updated, I am kind of stuck. > Is the time-to-start an indication that I have a basic hardware issue and all > my other symptoms derive that that? Doubtful. > My last question is does kde4 require hal or dbus to be activiated? Probably not, but I use xfce. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:51:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34650106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F4C8FC15 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so7630117ewy.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:50:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ifNPEFQdtlASCF50iE7B0rTzGw1/7+sHhThT1DKczYw=; b=Rt7lTC34pRA3zB8td7deBwV8A1k9GCgD6gZQ0ck9IAEGxjq/XYHkypHhApsRI7jLu0 MbuXJoy+8yVE9Vxg+0F1j5mbzbgK+xFxFk+MrWcg1+6rbPlg95Rcz0OAyBIQIQeRPMXY 7XBwwDhCpaoG3+fLkZw7+7B5BhE1kPGjzZZIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=DDPFeL956VL/a/dP6ZNZa8+Gu05cmyMootIWvMNPv2YVyIADmlayWg0FsR183s4O+O vWrBtjkSrarJDC+MTiYBZBb41uBHm/X8sMCHaEFyRq60oGB1AaNVCQpLBqbq6YahW1+p ZtkbP25YgMT1wtYuqzzCQVqpWazQwmDs1GPq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.23.201 with SMTP id s9mr2581307ebb.5.1262026257386; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:50:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3a142e750912281050o32418f07j62d3f4e80ef3cde@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: "Ishmael F.E." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ?Bandwidth limit to 31kBps for wlan? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:51:05 -0000 On 12/28/09, Ishmael F.E. wrote: > Hi list > > I have this little issue with my wireless card: > No matter where I am or what I'm downloading, > I just can't download at more than 31kBps ever > (only while using BSD). > > What should I do to be able to download faster? > > The bandwidth should be ~400kBps > > I'm using 8.0. > > /boot/loader.conf: > bcmwl5_load="yes" #I'm using the ndis driver > . > . > /etc/rc.conf: > netif_enable="YES" > synchronous_dhclient="YES" > wlans_ndis0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > . > . > pciconf -lv : > ndis0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x1366103c chip=0x432814e4 rev=0x03 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > device = 'Broadcom 432AGN 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Solution > (BCM4321KFBG)' > class = network > . > . > ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: associated > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 > inet 192.168.0.00 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.3.255 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/54Mbps mode 11g > status: associated > ssid Q... channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:00:00:00 > country US authmode WPA privacy OFF powersavemode CAM > powersavesleep 100 txpower 0 bmiss 7 mcastrate 6 mgmtrate 6 > scanvalid 60 protmode CTS roaming MANUAL bintval 0 Signal strength? What is displayed for ndis0 if you boot with verbose boot option. -- Paul B Mahol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 19:10:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE621065679 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gianrico.lamura@lamia.infm.it) Received: from kaori.infm.it (kaori.infm.it [193.205.152.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34C68FC2C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kaori.infm.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 89C4BE0054 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:51:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.lamia.infm.it (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kaori.infm.it (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F09BDE0048 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:51:03 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:51:03 +0100 From: To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: X-Sender: gianrico.lamura@lamia.infm.it User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Dec 28 19:51:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4b38fe1825194810010550 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:32:47 +0000 Cc: Subject: the system does not boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:10:50 -0000 Dear Sir, I have installed BSD 7.2 release. All the installation worked fine till t= he first re-boot of the system.=20 The reboot gos fine until the end where it breaks: "Warning: /usr was not properly dismounted. Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted ERROR: ABORTING BOOT (sendingSIGTERM to parent)! Dec 28 19:43:06 init /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" when I press "return" it displaysthe prompt #_ the command xstart freezes and I have no desktop and to shut down I have = to press Ctrl Alt canc the machine is : Philips freevents X59, intel core 2 duo, 1G ram, 100 G hard disk. I have chose the partioning suggested from the installation. What should I do??? thnk you in advance for your help Gianrico Lamura I From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 19:37:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DB31065676 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76CD8FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7117430iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VeVdfkMgtNrESSldQCEpaHPsuDHxcMMizwn7DWt3JS8=; b=itcCnZCx7/SQ6igf1C/ziDgbH+62T5htvJx4hdhw9k6PGk+HXkegoT9y9xF0VteUCN TpFrdgADa1cGxGkqebiiqt7VFZN0KBrFeZKpceoMHfdrraaJ6vwC1PKdikus3RwCSGCd D3IlyHzz0Fi1TYofvI0bOF0SVMT78a9QsAjR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HPId42F1K7i8JtuPhGYf0CHuZK32rVSC2Ncvnzb42rw8aagq51zIqTUk6QOYnutDog 1Vwa/ZYDCvt+kbmpduzf67Mh+bfaFqT0KOVjKGH8tWczE+Hy26/7mitl8L5LK+LDhwuz udfnOn2e0ya5Xcj5ob2GNsTxm+vNtzBoKObI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.121.93 with SMTP id g29mr2078248ibr.13.1262029048638; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750912281050o32418f07j62d3f4e80ef3cde@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e750912281050o32418f07j62d3f4e80ef3cde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:37:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ishmael F.E." To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ?Bandwidth limit to 31kBps for wlan? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:37:37 -0000 2009/12/28 > On 12/28/09 > > Hi list > > > > I have this little issue with my wireless card: > > No matter where I am or what I'm downloading, > > I just can't download at more than 31kBps ever > > (only while using BSD). > > > > What should I do to be able to download faster? > > > > The bandwidth should be ~400kBps > > > > I'm using 8.0. > > > > /boot/loader.conf: > > bcmwl5_load="yes" #I'm using the ndis driver > > . > > . > > /etc/rc.conf: > > netif_enable="YES" > > synchronous_dhclient="YES" > > wlans_ndis0="wlan0" > > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > > . > > . > > pciconf -lv : > > ndis0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x1366103c chip=0x432814e4 > rev=0x03 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > > device = 'Broadcom 432AGN 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Solution > > (BCM4321KFBG)' > > class = network > > . > > . > > ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 2290 > > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 > > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > > status: associated > > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 > > inet 192.168.0.00 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.3.255 > > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/54Mbps mode 11g > > status: associated > > ssid Q... channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:00:00:00 > > country US authmode WPA privacy OFF powersavemode CAM > > powersavesleep 100 txpower 0 bmiss 7 mcastrate 6 mgmtrate 6 > > scanvalid 60 protmode CTS roaming MANUAL bintval 0 > > Signal strength? > What is displayed for ndis0 if you boot with verbose boot option. > > -- > Paul B Mahol > I boot(ed?) in verbose mode (option 5?) but nothing interesting showed, just something like this: dmesg | egrep -ni "ndis|wlan" 10:Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/ndis.ko" at 0xc1b0f31c. 11:Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/if_ndis.ko" at 0xc1b0f3c8. 103:wlan: <802.11 Link Layer> 472:ndis0: mem 0xb6000000-0xb6003fff,0xd0200000-0xd02fffff at device 0.0 on pci3 473:ndis0: Reserved 0x4000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xb6000000 474:ndis0: Reserved 0x100000 bytes for rid 0x18 type 3 at 0xd0200000 480:ndis0: [MPSAFE] 481:ndis0: [ITHREAD] 482:ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 483:ndis0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps 484:ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 485:ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps 794:wlan0: bpf attached 795:wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:73:xx:xx:xx -- [============================] [En muchos lugares, tomar fotos es visto como] [una costumbre vil y reprensible ] [============================] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 19:38:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F3D106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CA488FC26 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81029 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2009 19:38:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I4Cf2AmOYw/A30QGGYDKk+yJKf4DUae0+gfBw3NRqS5CeznO2WplPRErwxyABm4b2sgEh+5cMFTI5zeM+cqRxT/w7lj1pnDwpOR0ehPNhf5LuAs5pfQfUHpZ0Lm11uhv+tmO9I3jM4ITIqN+HCb6woTWA4XhZohuhJySqlm6zoo= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: J74HY0YVM1mRMbYy9CiNs95I1uCAxgPLHDHv3eGvcV6fBjIiHKGDoesxFBJH_Im6WPyzN1oIETNluGGQqD.azZFeh4O2Rddb_tWuIdjvNOVobfkW_yQCGphMHOyAaDOJ_RYvxriRu8hcHimj.iQStfv0821o4CTK3g_vyTIMZwBHDShvOyUjX3aOOpimxMFYFqxOmtncBvYKdh2tevt.F.e_MOh9ukif2OvsZu.aBC3tvIYQDIZmT2.wqf07by6o0PbKU3_PxQ4tRkYSgNEkZ5HOJ4R090EwdJTIMvmRYC96QzSgKD5QtmdUMA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 877D422886; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:38:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:38:02 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091228143802.33a20d87@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: pulseaudio warning message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:38:09 -0000 FreeBSD-7.2 =46rom time to time, I see a warning similar to this in the /var/log/messages log file: Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: module.c: module-detect is deprec= ated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect! Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp2.0' doesn't= support full duplex I am assuming that this is a harmless warning message. Would that assumption be correct? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind when he has a hole in his head. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 20:36:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCA51065672 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC718FC1F for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:02 +0000 (UTC) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBSKO8vH007449; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhcp-64-102-221-180.cisco.com (dhcp-64-102-221-180.cisco.com [64.102.221.180]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBSKO21g017142; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B3913E2.1030300@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:02 -0500 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091228143802.33a20d87@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20091228143802.33a20d87@scorpio.seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pulseaudio warning message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:36:03 -0000 On 12/28/09 2:38 PM, Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD-7.2 > > From time to time, I see a warning similar to this in > the /var/log/messages log file: > > Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: module.c: module-detect is deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect! > > Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp2.0' doesn't support full duplex > > I am assuming that this is a harmless warning message. Would that > assumption be correct? Yes. The udev module is not going to work on FreeBSD since we don't have udev. Joe > > > > -- > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com > > |::::======= > |::::======= > |=========== > |=========== > | > > Tact is the ability to tell a man he has > an open mind when he has a hole in his head. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 20:49:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536841065676 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A07F8FC17 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so7140163pxi.7 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:49:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+mB9YHARPRlHm1t0t3Mk2y0apV7Fi5C238A4ObytNMg=; b=WAwYMdMCJljKaxccOFybZ1HcabfxynEWsxkWbu9UKjq5Qm48YaFUUET8ouMt9Y+3Fe TDX/HsRpZ+gVZnNadthTxCl20giP1fs32IAOq2BnvnCruLDzeU+fUCnIWBhSfbNsa9gp q/t7lkXKHl4HzVJiOlZ/o7WcnfDP9lzGclOnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HP+WcjU1kEAlHC404NIKwMZutYoYqPypu4ztLYKIw45DLzihTg+4vtG8CMfKtYL9Tl meTTsW+nk09lKEkPo1Q/IMc4zRiNWTSXCMEGPgWoTAsyBovQ42djD3rg7nDgeDdCQXsi kKJDZZ9VE09PLFK5DxBdX+JzVUYZaKDcoq44s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.31 with SMTP id d31mr5989397wfj.269.1262033371029; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:49:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:49:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd110912281249w30351fb3q792963a51ed2a309@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: gianrico.lamura@lamia.infm.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the system does not boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:49:34 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I have installed BSD 7.2 release. All the installation worked fine till the > first re-boot of the system. > > The reboot gos fine until the end where it breaks: > > "Warning: /usr was not properly dismounted. > Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted > ERROR: ABORTING BOOT (sendingSIGTERM to parent)! > Dec 28 19:43:06 init /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to > single user mode > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" > > when I press "return" > > it displaysthe prompt > #_ > > the command xstart freezes and I have no desktop and to shut down I have to > press Ctrl Alt canc > > the machine is : > > Philips freevents X59, intel core 2 duo, 1G ram, 100 G hard disk. > > I have chose the partioning suggested from the installation. > > > What should I do??? > > > thnk you in advance for your help > > Gianrico Lamura > > I > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Try runing fsck -y /usr, is nothing wrong just a dirty Filesystem. -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 21:01:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930AE1065672 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5907B8FC0C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nBSL1KK4050176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSL1KYN058341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBSL1KDW058340; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:20 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091228210120.GH98917@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:21 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:01:24 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 25), Victor Sudakov said: > > I cvsup the FreeBSD CVS repository daily from cvsup.ru.freebsd.org. > > Both the client and the server run CVSup Software version: SNAP_16_1h, > > Protocol version: 17.0. > > > > Recently I noticed that there are lots of messages "Checksum mismatch -- > > will transfer entire file" about all kinds of downloaded files. > > > > What could be the reason? Is my CVS repository corrupt or what? Is there > > a way to check the integrity of the entiry repository? > > > > I have read about there being a "checksum mismatch" problem in CVSup > > version before 15.4, but I am using SNAP_16_1h already. > > > > If this question is offtopic here, please direct me to a more relevant > > mailing list. TIA. > > Am I the only one to have this problem? I see this too. Running cvsup -k and looking at the "bad" files shows that the differences seem to be commit dates before 2000; one end has them as "99", and the other has "1999", which causes the checksum to change. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 22:07:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462471065670 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@optiplex-networks.com) Received: from x-ray.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.2.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BD98FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by x-ray.optiplex-networks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2527B54DFB0 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:49:37 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at x-ray.optiplex-networks.com Received: from x-ray.optiplex-networks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (x-ray.optiplex-networks.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6OZ5gCkA00sh for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:49:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (unknown [81.215.233.158]) by x-ray.optiplex-networks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3895554DF5A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:49:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:49:31 +0200 From: Kaya Saman Organization: Optiplex Networks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:07:29 -0000 Hi guys, first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much mileage with the OS as of yet! Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Christmas and New Year also since we are in that period :-) I will start with my GUI question as I believe that it is something simple: I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the documentation through fully beforehand) but I didn't manage to get the mouse or keyboard to even work let alone starting the Gnome2 interface. Now I don't have that particular machine with me now as it's in another country but just wanted to know a few possible causes for the issue. I am guessing it's probably tied into not having the xorg.conf file but I will install a VM of it soon and be more specific with logs etc.... as I am used to Linux and Sun Solaris I know this is really ad-hoc and frowned upon way of asking which will probably earn me minus brownie points but just wanted a quick idea of what maybe so when the time comes I can investigate further! The second and main question that I wish to ask is more to do with peoples opinions or experienced BSD users advice: I am looking to setup a small file server which I will use as DNS and NTP server also. The reason for selecting FreeBSD is that the system I about to install onto doesn't have much memory (not sure how much but probably in the region of 300-500MB perhaps) and although Linux would definitely suite this kind of system as Solaris needs round 2GB or so for OpenSolaris, I am quite interested to learn FreeBSD but also take advantage of the ZFS file system which is standard now in version 8. I won't be installing a GUI on this machine since it is going to be a server so I would like to know if BSD has a small footprint memory and CPU wise for me to run on the machine in question which is a PIV? Also just to make sure: NFS, Samba, NTPd, and ISC's Bind are all supported on FreeBSD aren't they?? I know this is a bit of an RTFM issue here but for example the Solaris implementation of NTP and even SNMP are slightly different from the GNU or GPL based ones in Linux so therefor I have to ask :-) Many thanks for any responses!!!! Best regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 22:20:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C1D1065692 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0A28FC19 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so7139441pwi.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sEWdWn19+7GD1eD09zzdfythpchUFAenWtHOK2nONeI=; b=GvTnzmJ6F167nNVs9hakumOGSCvNsSVt8ub84zw7F5Ojo94+uaEM6wVxoWHDWHXBuE eu3tAc4YX4G02kkoyhtB1r6589dqUWSEuuma8neMBcBgWRslEWturVglL0etveRjM9nV AhvGpSuqR5iwpjMs+Y8pYC/7szC6i8e9L/6Zg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=t6Ob3gBKztMDveOkyVz/DjUaiocnfQYqDgwWoEOk9wqMJ1cagNrqI3yb6Cc5PkzCKa ZJ/uQJzwgx1D2dZPmsrDMvWhfbxLPn0Tm42vqMx/0jS2lam2AVRq0zh4Ra4P3AtG5CyO 519X3kb1Pbdwj1o+CPvWF7TFaDAcZ1aq1gl+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.2.14 with SMTP id 14mr3193578wfb.93.1262038810415; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:20:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:20:10 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Kaya Saman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:20:23 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > > first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic > nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much mileage > with the OS as of yet! > > Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Christmas and New Year also > since we are in that period :-) > > I will start with my GUI question as I believe that it is something simple: > > I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently > installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I > tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the > documentation through fully beforehand) but I didn't manage to get the mouse > or keyboard to even work let alone starting the Gnome2 interface. > > Now I don't have that particular machine with me now as it's in another > country but just wanted to know a few possible causes for the issue. I am > guessing it's probably tied into not having the xorg.conf file but I will > install a VM of it soon and be more specific with logs etc.... as I am used > to Linux and Sun Solaris I know this is really ad-hoc and frowned upon way > of asking which will probably earn me minus brownie points but just wanted a > quick idea of what maybe so when the time comes I can investigate further! > Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html > > The second and main question that I wish to ask is more to do with peoples > opinions or experienced BSD users advice: > > I am looking to setup a small file server which I will use as DNS and NTP > server also. The reason for selecting FreeBSD is that the system I about to > install onto doesn't have much memory (not sure how much but probably in the > region of 300-500MB perhaps) and although Linux would definitely suite this > kind of system as Solaris needs round 2GB or so for OpenSolaris, I am quite > interested to learn FreeBSD but also take advantage of the ZFS file system > which is standard now in version 8. > > I won't be installing a GUI on this machine since it is going to be a > server so I would like to know if BSD has a small footprint memory and CPU > wise for me to run on the machine in question which is a PIV? > > Also just to make sure: NFS, Samba, NTPd, and ISC's Bind are all supported > on FreeBSD aren't they?? I know this is a bit of an RTFM issue here but for > example the Solaris implementation of NTP and even SNMP are slightly > different from the GNU or GPL based ones in Linux so therefor I have to ask > :-) > If you're concerned about system resources, at least from a minimalist perspective, then ZFS is not for you. Solaris can't help you with that either, ZFS is hungry. ZFS is also not "standard", but considered production ready. UFS is still the standard, and the only filesystem supported by the installer without resorting to tricks. All the other services work well on FreeBSD. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 22:48:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90C41065672 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9828FC1C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSMmKxZ053894 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:48:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:48:20 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091228224818.GA77530@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: more on click-feedback. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:48:24 -0000 The fellow who showed some interest in my need for some kybd feedback is a volunteer from Gallaudet U. Altho it is "unlikely" that I'll get a free "XO" to hack on, the chances are better if I have some kind of team. The obvious "conflict"--if it can be called that--is that the XO is Red Hat. Another thing is that I know virtually nothing about the Linux kernel. With FBSD, I'm looking at the dev/* files I have to work with. requests for Help on the Linux side are not necessary. Obviously, anything I come up with can very likely be ported to the Linux kernel if they want it. I'm making no claim whatsoever on whatever kind of clicky thing I can hack. There are other ways of doing this, but I want the clicks to be available with or without X11. xset.c relies on the Xlib stuff that I started hacking on in 1996; gave it up after six months. Bottom line is that my text-to-speech app should be usable from a cheap notebook without X to a clunky ThinkPad with/without X. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 22:53:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DA2106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07138FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBSMgo1L007072; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:42:51 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.cea.6bc60103 (43906); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dc07.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC073-ab824b39346421d; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:42:43 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:53:53 -0000 > > Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and > hal are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html I'm sure I started them as this doc is exactly what I followed...... I think if I recall correctly or at least something like it?? Anyway as explained I will use Vbox to check 100% and then at least have proper logs and cli output to compare to and give everyone an idea of what's going on unlike now! > > > If you're concerned about system resources, at least from a minimalist > perspective, then ZFS is not for you. Solaris can't help you with > that either, ZFS is hungry. ZFS is also not "standard", but > considered production ready. UFS is still the standard, and the only > filesystem supported by the installer without resorting to tricks. Yes ZFS is hungry :-) I run Solaris 10 on an ancient Sun Netra T105 server with 360MB of RAM which uses ZFS file system and apart being a reverse proxy it won't handle anything else easily. Also my E420r server with 1GB of RAM running Sun Ray software is limited to just that and can only handle 1 Ray unit on top of the SXCE (Solaris Express Community Edition) OS. I know how strong UFS v.1 is as I use it with Solaris 9, but how about UFS v.2 which is what FreeBSD runs?? When compared with ext3 from a performance/reliability perspective which one comes on top? Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by device ID. As mention UFS v.1 is incredibly strong especially when run on SCSI II drives that the Sun Netra T105 uses so I haven't had an FS failure yet and if UFS v.2 is similar I don't suspect having a failure either although this machine will have IDE drives and uses x86 architecture as opposed to SPARC. In fact I am only really after ZFS for its self healing properties as I don't mind going with any file system as long as it's stable. Ext3 although easily repairable is quite unstable on my systems anyway! > > All the other services work well on FreeBSD. > > > -- > Adam Vande More Cool, thanks Adam! :-) I appreciate the response. Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:05:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98085106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFAF8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so7190184pxi.7 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:04:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DcRp0lXfWl1HsxJ41NNCi/ncwlHs0TDbAQye9g5CkIs=; b=sSD74L5iaBfrHMKaDwxwjaz3yRrc7c/3US7+HdVqaL2k+xQDZsX/2TsEVU8S+/7fTH cTI/QPXbYJ2fBnNVci0BdQwYKDEwg/uS2YmwYsbU0/GewnMWpoR/phW3RX9YzLYLe2EW cBwKP/SVsbwQgEK5jwCC8c1lG6WjY/R5XrWAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AJwaSb7Bz+b6llrr1oVtZChruoq0m+tJGRjJj4QB8xc9QILcGV+F7s33VVNnHJq8Iz ek81FIgsrdOATTn/o3OF+PYq0nP4LGlAx+CT/Jcv2jYMxCHnrljUGtop2RNp55B1kIhd 9Zz+tr+qhc+NDjzbrMuPO8RYisictXBcnS8Z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.6 with SMTP id w6mr10731063wfh.346.1262041493031; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:04:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:04:52 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Kaya Saman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:12 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > I know how strong UFS v.1 is as I use it with Solaris 9, but how about UFS > v.2 which is what FreeBSD runs?? When compared with ext3 from a > performance/reliability perspective which one comes on top? > I would say ufs2 easily wins, but remember this is the freebsd-questions list ;) There are some differences though, ufs2 uses softupdates, not journaling(journaling is available and easy to implement via gjournal). Softupdates I believe are a little faster than journaling, but it's drawback is long disk checking after a dirty shutdown. I've never had a ufs specific issue in hundreds if not thousands of deployments, but nothing is guaranteed. ufs does have a great track records and bunch of service hours logged. > > Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to > check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by > device ID. > Example after a dirty shutdown: fsck -y > In fact I am only really after ZFS for its self healing properties as I > don't mind going with any file system as long as it's stable. Ext3 although > easily repairable is quite unstable on my systems anyway! That's actually a bit disconcerting, do you have hardware instability? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F88106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B85D8FC23 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7209957iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:05:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bC8CY8TAEr+GJmBaS7v2wTmdbwvsCzgjlK8IWznFZdY=; b=pP9bkRvlXdgEUCZkBHLo3SGEKRPcXlMxYa/ENyGO00w3MSUeOJurO6dIIwDFxv8L2+ Q5bbZ9y5yPU3HjQtRiFKYWg8qQMUduqmsb4KA/ke09vx1EeKWIvhAcCY0sUXAc/+aKUb tyBNKSzfYsxWbSPEpuvqnUXUlqOodxJsY13dY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SnyCjS9u99xwhDTYdnplgS4lQWgHBEJinW5J+rh6w+hev5QVXYF/N/NBO0ar57vxOk xj3pT56tQ8lf7AtL2P30q5Ch3G6usTzu5uBmBQ91WsuAoLRWb18kht76oQLgeiJYTYbl KRPpcG5gxu+JqSAkUW4FX6Hr+UXiE0IHXPvsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.9.218 with SMTP id m26mr672197ibm.29.1262041555959; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:05:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:05:55 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:06:06 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 14:42, Kaya Saman wrote: > >> >> Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and ha= l >> are started at boot. =C2=A0Follow the handbook for best results. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html > > I'm sure I started them as this doc is exactly what I followed...... I th= ink > if I recall correctly or at least something like it?? Anyway as explained= I > will use Vbox to check 100% and then at least have proper logs and cli > output to compare to and give everyone an idea of what's going on unlike > now! I can't speak to the rest, but WRT the GUI, I suspect you'll find it a lot easier if you install a Window Manager to handle a lot of this. I have found xfce4 to be a good one for me - gnome and kde were a bit much. Once I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 with a 'make config-recursive' then chose my options, then 'make install', the GUI fired up just fine, and all of the hal/dbus stuff was handled for me. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:24:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBC106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB1B8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBSNOeP1000471; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:41 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.bff.71d7d75d (37097); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB077-90e94b393e3192; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:35 -0500 Message-ID: <4B393E31.5020707@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:24:33 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:48 -0000 > > I would say ufs2 easily wins, but remember this is the > freebsd-questions list ;) There are some differences though, ufs2 > uses softupdates, not journaling(journaling is available and easy to > implement via gjournal). Softupdates I believe are a little faster > than journaling, but it's drawback is long disk checking after a dirty > shutdown. I've never had a ufs specific issue in hundreds if not > thousands of deployments, but nothing is guaranteed. ufs does have a > great track records and bunch of service hours logged. Cool meaning I am going UFS2 on my new install! > > > Example after a dirty shutdown: > > fsck -y Aaah fsck :-) If I run this on an ext3 FS it tends to make things much worse as I did it once and got left with a whole bunch of unattached inodes :-( reason for Linux and ext3 e2fsck is much better I have found from personal experience! > > > That's actually a bit disconcerting, do you have hardware instability? Nope! These systems are actually desktop systems which I run as servers as I couldn't afford to buy proper systems so got a whole bunch of cheap x86 boxes off Ebay. If running Scalix though I found it really eats up hard drives - although running a collaboration suite on a laptop is not the most intelligent thing to do but then what else can you do with a portable computer with bust LCD display? Left in my parents house in the UK now as I'm currently in Turkey but my lab from scavenged parts and systems: http://www.optiplex-networks.com/lab/lab.html > > -- > Adam Vande More Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:30:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A584106577A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B638FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBSNU0wn000492; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:30:01 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.bf9.7309da32 (37589); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-mb06.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB062-92d54b393f6f84; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:29:51 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:30:13 -0000 > I can't speak to the rest, but WRT the GUI, I suspect you'll find it a > lot easier if you install a Window Manager to handle a lot of this. I > have found xfce4 to be a good one for me - gnome and kde were a bit > much. Once I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 with a 'make > config-recursive' then chose my options, then 'make install', the GUI > fired up just fine, and all of the hal/dbus stuff was handled for me. > > Kurt > I thought Gnome already came with Nautilus as Window manager??? Or in FreeBSD is it extra? Sorry am not used to doing things from scratch but soon I will get the hang of it - just give me a couple of days to get the file server I am on about up and running then will transfer the stuff clogging my notebooks HD over there and install a VM through Vbox and really have a go at understanding the GUI. I did play around with FreeBSIE which is FreeBSD with the GUI installed as a live CD which was really cool and light and worked especially well on my 512MB RAM laptop. Now I don't have a memory issue as I have 6GB on a newer machine running 64bit OS's all the way but still need to get to grips with this :-) Thanks for the tip Kurt! Regards, --Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:44:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E06106566B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E5F8FC12 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id nBSNi8AN031538; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:44:08 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:44:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> In-Reply-To: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912290044.08105.pieter@degoeje.nl> Cc: Kaya Saman Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:44:10 -0000 On Monday 28 December 2009 22:49:31 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > > first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic > nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much > mileage with the OS as of yet! > > Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Christmas and New Year > also since we are in that period :-) > > I will start with my GUI question as I believe that it is something simple: > > I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently > installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I > tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the > documentation through fully beforehand) but I didn't manage to get the > mouse or keyboard to even work let alone starting the Gnome2 interface. The most common cause is that either hald (sysutils/hal) or dbus (devel/dbus) isn't running. Xorg needs them both to detect mouse and keyboard. Add dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" to rc.conf to get them to start automatically. > > Now I don't have that particular machine with me now as it's in another > country but just wanted to know a few possible causes for the issue. I > am guessing it's probably tied into not having the xorg.conf file but I > will install a VM of it soon and be more specific with logs etc.... as I > am used to Linux and Sun Solaris I know this is really ad-hoc and > frowned upon way of asking which will probably earn me minus brownie > points but just wanted a quick idea of what maybe so when the time comes > I can investigate further! > > The second and main question that I wish to ask is more to do with > peoples opinions or experienced BSD users advice: > > I am looking to setup a small file server which I will use as DNS and > NTP server also. The reason for selecting FreeBSD is that the system I > about to install onto doesn't have much memory (not sure how much but > probably in the region of 300-500MB perhaps) and although Linux would > definitely suite this kind of system as Solaris needs round 2GB or so > for OpenSolaris, I am quite interested to learn FreeBSD but also take > advantage of the ZFS file system which is standard now in version 8. I agree with Adam Vande More's opinion that UFS2 is the way to go on such a low memory system. UFS2 also works well with large disks (1+ TB) if you tune the newfs parameters a bit (mainly to shorten the fsck time). With geom(8) you can do all kinds of mirroring/striping if you're into RAID. With regards to stability, UFS2 was before the import of ZFS the only filesystem widely used. It is very well tested, and in my opinion, very stable. In fact, I can't remember ever having a UFS2 filesystem go bad to the point I couldn't repair it anymore. If you're expecting lots of power outages, it may be worthwile to set up journaling using gjournal(8), which will reduce fsck times considerably, at the cost of reduced streaming write speed (which will halve unless a dedicated journal disk is used). > > I won't be installing a GUI on this machine since it is going to be a > server so I would like to know if BSD has a small footprint memory and > CPU wise for me to run on the machine in question which is a PIV? That won't be a problem. To illustrate, FreeBSD on a 256MB (i386) machine has about 211MB memory free just after startup. To be safe you could configure a large swap, so the system won't kill the memory hogs as soon as it runs out of memory. > > Also just to make sure: NFS, Samba, NTPd, and ISC's Bind are all > supported on FreeBSD aren't they?? I know this is a bit of an RTFM issue > here but for example the Solaris implementation of NTP and even SNMP are > slightly different from the GNU or GPL based ones in Linux so therefor I > have to ask :-) NFS, BIND, SNMP (bsnmpd) and NTP come with the OS and are installed by default. Samba can be installed from ports. > > Many thanks for any responses!!!! > > Best regards, > > Kaya Good luck! Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:51:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D4710656A8 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4528FC25 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7226692iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:51:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tPaw+LECktSEIZdqdgEwT9zhmyLAWR+yl+HjUq5AyjA=; b=Qr8v2CNHiGRliT5zpX2VYxFqI9S5xRy38o4UFncVCbnaCnVfAQF4POSHM35orTmccS rqeUvxXJchddvPYNtSp3VNX3OBra+gECZl/u4c9cdQ+/uwZsnXtikHlS25zg+EPBT1js /VzTdggKHxCfwOwc39Oox9YUOSPJPj9rflA0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KfuTGDnCnhbOg3JZM/HaU/3E46K7xZK0G8zU4whT86fbJbxPTmjjvgOOKmmX+ibNk+ uDiYQD5UxaGIJYoExgcIl5ASRSCQjvGFGI2KHHb1TWw9Sz0IxkzVYMUPZwvuvChbYNYi 8Q0tZaBh+/VDQ9WulaP1bHrd4ddjcKYCbycd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.170.201 with SMTP id e9mr3132135ibz.16.1262044299785; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:51:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:51:39 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:51:51 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 15:29, Kaya Saman wrote: > >> I can't speak to the rest, but WRT the GUI, I suspect you'll find it a >> lot easier if you install a Window Manager to handle a lot of this. I >> have found xfce4 to be a good one for me - gnome and kde were a bit >> much. Once I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 with a 'make >> config-recursive' then chose my options, then 'make install', the GUI >> fired up just fine, and all of the hal/dbus stuff was handled for me. >> >> Kurt >> > > I thought Gnome already came with Nautilus as Window manager??? Or in > FreeBSD is it extra? I see I didn't completely read your original message. Indulge me a moment while I ramble here, and probably expose my ignorance... Xorg/X11 <> Gnome Nautilis is a file manager, unless I misremember. The native file manager for xfce4 is Thunar. Gnome, like xfce4 (and ratpoison, kde, etc.) is a Window Manager, which depends on Xorg/X11 to function. WMs are usually installed installed after Xorg. Did you install gnome from source, or did you use 'pkg_add -r'? I don't know why, but I seem to have better luck, though it takes much longer, if I use 'make install' from the ports tree. > Sorry am not used to doing things from scratch but soon I will get the hang > of it - just give me a couple of days to get the file server I am on about > up and running then will transfer the stuff clogging my notebooks HD over > there and install a VM through Vbox and really have a go at understanding > the GUI. I'm not far along that learning curve myself. Heh. I started on an old Toshiba laptop with 256mbytes RAM, and Freesbie worked well on that. I then learned how to install from scratch. That was, um, interesting. I hated Linux, as it seems so arcane. Well, perhaps 'hate' is too strong a word, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Once I worked with FreeBSD, it became much more clear. Things seem to be done more sanely in FreeBSD. Now I have a nice 4gbyte Lenovo T61, and I still like xfce4 - it does what I want, and I didn't want to expend the effort to learn anything new. > I did play around with FreeBSIE which is FreeBSD with the GUI installed as a > live CD which was really cool and light and worked especially well on my > 512MB RAM laptop. Now I don't have a memory issue as I have 6GB on a newer > machine running 64bit OS's all the way but still need to get to grips with > this :-) If you're very familiar with gnome, you might wish to stay with it. If you're just learning, for both gnome and xfce4, my preference would be for xfce4. But that's just me, and you'll get at least 10 different answers from the first 8 people you meet. > Thanks for the tip Kurt! > > Regards, > > --Kaya > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 00:04:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DD8106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015B38FC18 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBT03kMe027725; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:03:46 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 8.c36.6104f944 (43999); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd06.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD068-abdf4b39475930a; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:03:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4B394759.6040304@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:03:37 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter de Goeje References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <200912290044.08105.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <200912290044.08105.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:04:08 -0000 > > The most common cause is that either hald (sysutils/hal) or dbus (devel/dbus) > isn't running. Xorg needs them both to detect mouse and keyboard. Add > dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" to rc.conf to get them to start > automatically. > We'll see what the issue actually is - as I mentioned I kinda stuffed this question in without any proper log or tty output to support anything I mentioned which is quite ad-hoc and not recommended on mailing lists of this caliber unless wanting to irritate the participants. Just need to clear up my notebooks drive first before setting up the VM environment to test! > > > I agree with Adam Vande More's opinion that UFS2 is the way to go on such a > low memory system. UFS2 also works well with large disks (1+ TB) if you tune > the newfs parameters a bit (mainly to shorten the fsck time). With geom(8) > you can do all kinds of mirroring/striping if you're into RAID. With regards > to stability, UFS2 was before the import of ZFS the only filesystem widely > used. It is very well tested, and in my opinion, very stable. In fact, I > can't remember ever having a UFS2 filesystem go bad to the point I couldn't > repair it anymore. If you're expecting lots of power outages, it may be > worthwile to set up journaling using gjournal(8), which will reduce fsck > times considerably, at the cost of reduced streaming write speed (which will > halve unless a dedicated journal disk is used). > I agree also and thank you guys for your opinions! As mentioned I know UFS1 from Solaris 9 on my SPARC systems and have never had any issues with it at all. "Hang on what are these things called slices and this wacky naming convention I thought disks where labeled hdax or sdax according to the partition...." :-P sorry internal joke! > > > That won't be a problem. To illustrate, FreeBSD on a 256MB (i386) machine has > about 211MB memory free just after startup. To be safe you could configure a > large swap, so the system won't kill the memory hogs as soon as it runs out > of memory. > Yeah I reckon large swap also! Usually round 2 or 3 times amount of memory but for everyday generic use I find about 1.5 - 3 gigs is enough. This is the good part of static filesystems I find over ZFS is that the swap space is easily tunable without editing ZFS pools or other. > > NFS, BIND, SNMP (bsnmpd) and NTP come with the OS and are installed by > default. Samba can be installed from ports. > Hmm.... I will need a bit of assistance for the ports part as I'm kinda used to Debian backports through the Apt repos but BSD ports is something quite different. I'm sure there's plenty of documentation on the web to find out how to install and implement! bsnmpd sounds to me more like snmpx from Solaris in terms of that it is different from opensnmpd. Not a problem won't be doing any SNMP monitoring right now as I don't have anything to monitor as my router isn't even my beloved Cisco at the mo. When I have more memory I will play around with SNMP monitoring software if available for BSD, and my all time favorite: Cacti. > > Good luck! > > Pieter > Thanks a lot Pieter!!!! --Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 00:23:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C3106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB4D8FC15 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBT0NAZm022754; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:23:11 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.bc0.69ee2300 (43902); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dc06.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC067-ab7e4b394bea16c; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:23:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:23:06 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:23:32 -0000 Kurt Buff wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 15:29, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > I see I didn't completely read your original message. Indulge me a > moment while I ramble here, and probably expose my ignorance... > > Xorg/X11 <> Gnome > Gnome runs on Xorg: Xorg/Xfree runs X11 Xfree is now obsolete as Xorg is much better. > Nautilis is a file manager, unless I misremember. The native file > manager for xfce4 is Thunar. > > Gnome, like xfce4 (and ratpoison, kde, etc.) is a Window Manager, > which depends on Xorg/X11 to function. WMs are usually installed > installed after Xorg. > Correct on both counts :-) > Did you install gnome from source, or did you use 'pkg_add -r'? I > don't know why, but I seem to have better luck, though it takes much > longer, if I use 'make install' from the ports tree. > I used pkg_add! Am such a package manager guy as although have compiled quite a bit of stuff I find on some systems such as Sun Solaris compiling can be a nightmare. Especially if it means hacking out source code and using special make parameters as I'm not a programmer but also not that far advanced when it comes down to building software from scratch! > > > I'm not far along that learning curve myself. Heh. > > I started on an old Toshiba laptop with 256mbytes RAM, and Freesbie > worked well on that. I then learned how to install from scratch. That > was, um, interesting. I hated Linux, as it seems so arcane. Well, > perhaps 'hate' is too strong a word, but it left a bad taste in my > mouth. Once I worked with FreeBSD, it became much more clear. Things > seem to be done more sanely in FreeBSD. Now I have a nice 4gbyte > Lenovo T61, and I still like xfce4 - it does what I want, and I didn't > want to expend the effort to learn anything new. > Well, Linux has its advantages and for the last 2 years have completely used it as an M$ Windowz replacement as one can do almost everything on it. When I meant; not used to doing things from scratch I meant building the OS. I actually prefer doing a minimal install of CentOS with no software or GUI at all and then building the system up to what I need when it comes down to servers!!! Means I can fine tune the system that way and only use the system resources for what I need. Being a user of both Solaris and Linux though, they are both pretty cool with Solaris only hindered by lack of software and multimedia apps. Otherwise I think Solaris in Open guise would win anyday provided that the H/W support was as vast as Linux. > > > If you're very familiar with gnome, you might wish to stay with it. If > you're just learning, for both gnome and xfce4, my preference would be > for xfce4. But that's just me, and you'll get at least 10 different > answers from the first 8 people you meet. > > Have played round with everything including KDE3/4, XFCE, Blackbox, Fluxbox, Window Maker, CDE (on Solaris)...... Wish there was something more, new and interesting but they're all a bit bland after a while. Gnome I find is more functional! If anyone has any idea of getting something like they use on TV shows like NCIS and CSI that would be really cool (not Hollywood OS) or something they use in the military that one sees on the discovery channel say on the US Navy ships. I mean I do develop GUI's for the OpenSolaris spin-off distro Belenix which can be seen here: http://www.optiplex-networks.com/belenix/index_belenix.html under themes. But really need a new concept of completely tricked out geeky 'suped' up WM. Lot's of bar graphs, text outputs and other really cool stuff embedded into it :-) - no need for Gkrellm or Conky or Torsmo anymore! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 00:57:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80E2106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDDE8FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7249707iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:57:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=d5p4anCr63NS6Mj+KVqptJfO9UPsuiT6HrYYo977yVs=; b=IKnYKHzblF9DZO9+x4YQ/m2kyM0TE5zTM5CbFWd7ukQEIrHLnNBxDnf4q7g7gj4qP+ 1XsFwMCrXHJ51o50gJMV844UObJDnrmQ37vM2wYAnq5T25SQRdAUdfZvGgs94BSfFX+U PNKL/0jqeSuR2UfLHR0LPL4caab45ZZZrwXK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=s9cJBsoGPSrTjhFKT09EgSHoBGQpbv75cdRDvmq2y/0KlIv2Cd76Q/z+Gk7kwJ+l97 lwXBzk+GG8ziN6GUijhhbv9vlVuPCTU52DU1LxWpYKGND7H8kYDXU1WtWTVa0v9zPlYV siIGRVHd3ILCxBeltzQpgdpWhg4cVotCukMRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.121.164 with SMTP id h36mr1956555ibr.9.1262048261538; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:57:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750912281050o32418f07j62d3f4e80ef3cde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:57:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ishmael F.E." To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ?Bandwidth limit to 31kBps for wlan? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:57:51 -0000 My bad, it was the gateway the one limiting the bandwidth : | Tanks anyway Have a nice day 2009/12/28 > 2009/12/28 > >> On 12/28/09 >> >> > Hi list >> > >> > I have this little issue with my wireless card: >> > No matter where I am or what I'm downloading, >> > I just can't download at more than 31kBps ever >> > (only while using BSD). >> > >> > What should I do to be able to download faster? >> > >> > The bandwidth should be ~400kBps >> > >> > I'm using 8.0. >> > >> > /boot/loader.conf: >> > bcmwl5_load="yes" #I'm using the ndis driver >> > . >> > . >> > /etc/rc.conf: >> > netif_enable="YES" >> > synchronous_dhclient="YES" >> > wlans_ndis0="wlan0" >> > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" >> > . >> > . >> > pciconf -lv : >> > ndis0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x1366103c chip=0x432814e4 >> rev=0x03 >> > hdr=0x00 >> > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' >> > device = 'Broadcom 432AGN 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Solution >> > (BCM4321KFBG)' >> > class = network >> > . >> > . >> > ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 2290 >> > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 >> > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g >> > status: associated >> > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 1500 >> > ether 00:1a:73:00:00:00 >> > inet 192.168.0.00 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.3.255 >> > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/54Mbps mode 11g >> > status: associated >> > ssid Q... channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:00:00:00 >> > country US authmode WPA privacy OFF powersavemode CAM >> > powersavesleep 100 txpower 0 bmiss 7 mcastrate 6 mgmtrate 6 >> > scanvalid 60 protmode CTS roaming MANUAL bintval 0 >> >> Signal strength? >> What is displayed for ndis0 if you boot with verbose boot option. >> >> -- >> Paul B Mahol >> > > I boot(ed?) in verbose mode (option 5?) but nothing > interesting showed, just something like this: > > dmesg | egrep -ni "ndis|wlan" > 10:Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/ndis.ko" at 0xc1b0f31c. > 11:Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/if_ndis.ko" at 0xc1b0f3c8. > 103:wlan: <802.11 Link Layer> > 472:ndis0: mem > 0xb6000000-0xb6003fff,0xd0200000-0xd02fffff at device 0.0 on pci3 > 473:ndis0: Reserved 0x4000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xb6000000 > 474:ndis0: Reserved 0x100000 bytes for rid 0x18 type 3 at 0xd0200000 > 480:ndis0: [MPSAFE] > 481:ndis0: [ITHREAD] > 482:ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > 483:ndis0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps > 484:ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps > 485:ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps > 794:wlan0: bpf attached > 795:wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:73:xx:xx:xx > > > -- > [============================] > [En muchos lugares, tomar fotos es visto como] > [una costumbre vil y reprensible ] > [============================] > -- [============================] [En muchos lugares, tomar fotos es visto como] [una costumbre vil y reprensible ] [============================] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 01:24:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B8D106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAA08FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.209]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:24:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4B395A58.7010801@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:24:40 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4B296E66.6030405@a1poweruser.com> <20091217064959.e62bfdbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091217151140.GA40367@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4B38ACF9.2050705@a1poweruser.com> <20091228151416.07a2f22d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091228151416.07a2f22d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 01:24:46.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[B516AC90:01CA8825] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:24:47 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:57 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: >> The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on >> the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary >> dos partition†and “extended dos partitionâ€. > > Just a formal addition: "primary DOS partition" - DOS stands > for "Disk Operating System", it's an abbreviation. You're > stating this later on, but you should do it at its first > occurance. > > for correctness i agree. > >> A single “primary dos partition†occupying all the space on the hard >> drive would be assigned drive letter C. > > The "drive letters" used seem to include the ":" as a part, > so it would be "C:" instead of plain "C". > > I have the win98 fdisk english version. I tested this and the fdisk program displays just the drive letter with out the :. Now on the DOS command line you do have to use the : to change to different drive, like in to change to A: drive. > >> An alternate method is to allocate an “extended dos partition†and then >> sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. > > I think the term is "logical volume inside an extended DOS > partition"; I'm not very familiar with their english names, > but that would correspond to the correct german name (found > in german versions of DOS); the term is "volume" or "drive". > > I've got no english DOS documentation here, so I can't > check for the correct term. > > German: "Primäre DOS-Partition" and "Logisches Laufwerk in > einer erweiterten DOS-Partition", and "Laufwerk" means > "drive", but I think I recall that DOS uses "volume" for > this... > The correct word as displayed in the fdisk program is 'logical dos drives' just the way i have it. > > >> One of these >> “primary dos partitions†or one of the logical dos drives in the >> “extended dos partition†must be set as the active partition to boot >> from. > > I'm not sure you can actually boot from a logical volume > inside an extended DOS partition... as far as I remember, > booting can only take place from a primary DOS partition. > > I tested this and can confirm you can boot from a logical drive inside an extended DOS partition. Just have to set the active flag first. > > >> FreeBSD’s fdisk program allocates disk space into slices. A FreeBSD >> slice is the same thing as a Microsoft/Windows “primary dos partitionâ€. >> FreeBSD has nothing akin to an “extended dos partitionâ€. > > It quite has - its slices (which are subdivided just as the > extended DOS partitions are, so its partitions are like - > but not the same as - the logical volumes inside a DOS > extended partition). > > > >> The >> Microsoft/Windows partition and the FreeBSD slice is where the operating >> system software is installed. > > No. The software is installed on the partitions inside a > slice, or, to be more exact, in the file system that the > partition holds. There can be of course one partition > coviering the whole slice, so "partition(s)" would be > a valid term. > > > >> The FreeBSD >> ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into smaller chunks >> called partitions. In a standard install of FreeBSD, these partitions >> are the default directory names used by the operating system. > > Not "are" - they _refer_ to them (or are refered to by > then), e. g. the default directory name / is the root > directory, but /dev/ad0s1a is the partition; /usr is the > directory for { UNIX system resources | user binaries and > libraries }, but /dev/ad0s1g is (maybe) the partition that > holds this data. In settings where one partition convers > the whole slice, there are no further mountpoints for the > divisions of functional parts of the system. > > > >> The motherboard standard which was created in the days before windows >> desktop were even though of yet and at which time Microsoft DOS (disk >> operating system) was the only thing available. > > Sure. :-) > > > >> This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Do to >> it’s size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. > > Due to its size... good catch. > > > >> This means no >> matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only >> sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. > > 20MB. But I'd like to have a 20 machine gun hard disk, too. :-) > back in win3.1 days a 20MG hard drive was the largest made at the time. > > >> The default MBR code written by the Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is >> hard coded to boot the C drive. The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to >> write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. > > You could add that this program is called the "FreeBSD boot > manager", because that's its actual name. > > > > Everything else seems to be correct to me, as well as > written in an appealing way, and technically understandable. > > I am adding this verbiage to my FreeBSD installer Guide for release 8.0 which will be available to the public 1/1/2010 at http://www.a1poweruser.com/ following is the corrected version incorporating your ideas. Users with Microsoft/Windows knowledge of how a hard drive is configured may have a terminology issue with FreeBSD. Microsoft/Windows and FreeBSD use the word partition to mean different (but related) things. The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary dos partition†and “extended dos partitionâ€. DOS means “disk operating system†which was the precursor to the Microsoft/Windows desktop GUI “graphical user interface†first appearing in Win 3.1. A single “primary dos partition†occupying all the space on the hard drive would be assigned drive letter C. You can also sub-divide the hard drive into multiple “primary dos partition†each one being assigned a drive letter C, D, E, F. An alternate method is to allocate an “extended dos partition†and then sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. One of these “primary dos partitions†or one of the logical dos drives in the “extended dos partition†must be set as the active partition to boot from. In a multiple partition allocation only one partition can be marked as bootable at one time. Typically legacy Microsoft/Windows Win3.1, Win95, Win98, WinMe, and Win2000 defaulted to a single “primary dos partitionâ€. Starting with XP, PC manufactures started to provide support for their PC’s operating system by having a second “primary dos partition†where the original factory version of the system was hidden and used to restore the C drive back to the factory version when corrupted by a virus. Microsoft/Windows provides no native method of selecting which partition to boot from in a multiple partition allocation. FreeBSD’s fdisk program allocates disk space into slices. A FreeBSD slice is the same thing as a Microsoft/Windows “primary dos partitionâ€. The FreeBSD ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into smaller chunks called partitions. FreeBSD partitions are like (but not the same as) the logical drives inside a “extended dos partitionâ€. The motherboard standard which was created in the days before windows desktop were even though of yet and at which time Microsoft DOS (disk operating system) was the only thing available. This legacy standard has continued un-updated to this current time and contributes to the limitations imposed on booting, disk layout and selection of which allocation on the hard disk to boot from. The motherboard BIOS ROM chip at power up inquires each device (floppies, cdrom, hard drive, usb memory stick) you selected in the BIOS menu to boot from. The hard drive has a MBR (Master Boot Record) a (512 byte block) located in sector-0 of the first physical track on the hard drive. This MBR contains bootstrap code and the disk partition table created by the fdisk program. The BIOS boot code reads the MBR code and disk partition table into memory and then transfers control to it. This MBR code is responsible for parsing the partition table and finding the bootable slice/partition that is marked 'active'. The MBR code then sets up the disk-address-offset information for the bootable slice/partition, and reads 'relative sector zero' from that slice/partition, and transfers control to that one-sector block of code that contains the unique operating system code to load it into memory. This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Due to its size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. This means no matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. The default MBR code written by the Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is hard coded to boot the C drive. The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. Its called the "FreeBSD boot manager". There are MBR boot menu programs in the FreeBSD ports collection that you can load into the MBR on the first physical cabled hard drive to scan for other bootable primary-partitions/slices on this hard drive and any other hard drives cabled to the PC. It displays a menu giving you the option to choose which one you want to boot from. This gives you the ability to have more that one operating system installed on your PC at one time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 02:31:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C88106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76068FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 830 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2009 02:31:06 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 29 Dec 2009 02:31:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4B396A48.9070705@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:32:40 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:31:07 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman > wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently >> installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I >> tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the >> documentation through fully beforehand) but I didn't manage to get the mouse >> or keyboard to even work let alone starting the Gnome2 interface. > Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal > are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html I don't know if I'd be too happy to agree on that ... while the answer IS correctfrom a narrow point of view, the documentation on both dbus and hal is very, VERY thin on the ground (and what exists is for Linux only), so if the setup programmed into the port isn't right for your particular FreeBSD machine, you can pretty much forget about getting enough info to fix things. Realize that both hal and dbus were written for Linux (not a particularly portable thing), and it was only because of FreeBSD porters that it works at all under FreeBSD, so the docs that come with them understand Linux only. You can't even find out how to fix the config files for FreeBSD. Trying to fix even the most minor problem is really climbing mountains. Much, much easier to fix up an xorg.conf, which is not only well documented, but has tools to generate you a good local setup for your particular machine. If dbus/hal happen to work for you right out of the FreeBSD port, well, that's great, but if you need to adapt things for use outside of Linux, good luck, fella. The folks who wrote our FreeBSD dbus and hal implementations did a good job of translating things which are VERY Linux-centric to FreeBSD, but it's still only really good for a default FreeBSD setup. I know that it didn't work for anything but a thin slice of default environments, in the FreeBSD-7.x release era. Some day, if & when the Linux developers are ready to admit there are other OSes and document things more portably, both tools are really, really fine ideas. Maybe ask again in 6 months to a year? Or, get ready to read a lot of source code and figure it out for yourself. Right now looking at what email I can find on the web regarding running hal & dbus on 7.2, no one else can find an easy fund of knowledge either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 03:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3492106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8797F8FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7299280iwn.3 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mob9mJBimo/+0XSGPT3vX7ahcJYWjoW8ONNO++Bd15k=; b=qGDVXZNRrgDqCBajmv0AzBE4APt9ihDxVVgq9FoOZbtnJ5XSO+hKSN8A4x1fyryCWk Z/aXQs5V0UrRYoQOrKxSuWXp2CrT/6pjvekoN5ey0XJ01zblm/ojFpZiWWHbnduyu+HF 6DS4VzVMuBWXh8aR2oOtBKWe83dfq9hOvnnNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nn5hv0nxzy9gjV/bvCVvGMG3AHQZwspH+wi8/SBL4CwlK9L5Htm1EHEaqP9z7ga/T8 OfDK9MFt+PN5oCOk1I4NdrPPcxb/qKRtAMbh9iKoIWqeStkbwDC9Q3CRwd/uOtzX4q8k sNE3ticPn2VQv426jJVfp3Wab9RTCa5sMZyeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.131 with SMTP id b3mr2073196ibx.19.1262056352893; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:12:36 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:23, Kaya Saman wrote: So, given what you've written below, you probably know more about this stuff than I do. Cool. I will echo the advice already given, however: add dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf. That will most likely clear your problem. >> Did you install gnome from source, or did you use 'pkg_add -r'? I >> don't know why, but I seem to have better luck, though it takes much >> longer, if I use 'make install' from the ports tree. >> > > I used pkg_add! Am such a package manager guy as although have compiled > quite a bit of stuff I find on some systems such as Sun Solaris compiling > can be a nightmare. Especially if it means hacking out source code and using > special make parameters as I'm not a programmer but also not that far > advanced when it comes down to building software from scratch! > >> >> I'm not far along that learning curve myself. Heh. >> >> I started on an old Toshiba laptop with 256mbytes RAM, and Freesbie >> worked well on that. I then learned how to install from scratch. That >> was, um, interesting. I hated Linux, as it seems so arcane. Well, >> perhaps 'hate' is too strong a word, but it left a bad taste in my >> mouth. Once I worked with FreeBSD, it became much more clear. Things >> seem to be done more sanely in FreeBSD. Now I have a nice 4gbyte >> Lenovo T61, and I still like xfce4 - it does what I want, and I didn't >> want to expend the effort to learn anything new. >> > > Well, Linux has its advantages and for the last 2 years have completely used > it as an M$ Windowz replacement as one can do almost everything on it. When > I meant; not used to doing things from scratch I meant building the OS. I > actually prefer doing a minimal install of CentOS with no software or GUI at > all and then building the system up to what I need when it comes down to > servers!!! > > Means I can fine tune the system that way and only use the system resources > for what I need. That's what I do with mine under FreeBSD, for both servers and workstations. > Being a user of both Solaris and Linux though, they are both pretty cool > with Solaris only hindered by lack of software and multimedia apps. > Otherwise I think Solaris in Open guise would win anyday provided that the > H/W support was as vast as Linux. I need to dive back into Linux - I want to figure out Xen now that it can do live migrations/failover, and FreeBSD doesn't do Dom0 - yet. So, I'll probably try out CentOS, though I suppose I could use NetBSD. > Wish there was something more, new and interesting but they're all a bit > bland after a while. Gnome I find is more functional! > > If anyone has any idea of getting something like they use on TV shows like > NCIS and CSI that would be really cool (not Hollywood OS) or something they > use in the military that one sees on the discovery channel say on the US > Navy ships. > > I mean I do develop GUI's for the OpenSolaris spin-off distro Belenix which > can be seen here: > > http://www.optiplex-networks.com/belenix/index_belenix.html > > under themes. > > But really need a new concept of completely tricked out geeky 'suped' up WM. > Lot's of bar graphs, text outputs and other really cool stuff embedded into > it :-) - no need for Gkrellm or Conky or Torsmo anymore! Eh. I just want something that works and keeps out of my way - xfce seems to do that just fine. For me, 'cool' is the apps and what I can do with them. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 03:16:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA27A1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEFF8FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:16:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13394424 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:16:52 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBT3Gptc062553 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:16:51 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBT3GfwF062551 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:16:41 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:16:41 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091229031641.GA62439@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228210120.GH98917@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228210120.GH98917@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:16:55 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Dec 25), Victor Sudakov said: > > > I cvsup the FreeBSD CVS repository daily from cvsup.ru.freebsd.org. > > > Both the client and the server run CVSup Software version: SNAP_16_1h, > > > Protocol version: 17.0. > > > > > > Recently I noticed that there are lots of messages "Checksum mismatch -- > > > will transfer entire file" about all kinds of downloaded files. > > > > > > What could be the reason? Is my CVS repository corrupt or what? Is there > > > a way to check the integrity of the entiry repository? > > > > > > I have read about there being a "checksum mismatch" problem in CVSup > > > version before 15.4, but I am using SNAP_16_1h already. > > > > > > If this question is offtopic here, please direct me to a more relevant > > > mailing list. TIA. > > > > Am I the only one to have this problem? > > I see this too. Running cvsup -k and looking at the "bad" files shows that > the differences seem to be commit dates before 2000; one end has them as > "99", and the other has "1999", which causes the checksum to change. This is interesting, but I observe different issues. Consider for example the following diff: *** #cvs.cvsup-20614.43 2009-12-29 08:56:31.000000000 +0600 --- cpucontrol.c,v 2009-12-29 04:58:12.000000000 +0600 *************** *** 36,41 **** --- 36,52 ---- branches; next ; + 1.3.2.1 + date 2009.08.03.08.13.06; author kensmith; state Exp; + branches + 1.3.2.1.2.1; + next ; + + 1.3.2.1.2.1 + date 2009.10.25.01.10.29; author kensmith; state Exp; + branches; + next ; + 1.2.2.1 date 2009.01.12.15.48.22; author stas; state Exp; branches *************** *** 52,68 **** branches; next ; - 1.3.2.1 - date 2009.08.03.08.13.06; author kensmith; state Exp; - branches - 1.3.2.1.2.1; - next ; - - 1.3.2.1.2.1 - date 2009.10.25.01.10.29; author kensmith; state Exp; - branches; - next ; - desc @@ --- 63,68 ---- *************** *** 815,817 **** --- 815,818 ---- a233 1 WARNX(0, "error opening %s for reading", dev); @ + We can observe the following: 1. There is an extra newline near the end of the file. 2. The changes in the file are the same but placed in different positions in the file. Any ideas? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 03:17:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B372D1065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE6C8FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:17:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13394435 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:17:56 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBT3HurI062575 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:17:56 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBT3Hu38062574 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:17:56 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:17:56 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091229031756.GB62439@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> <20091228091152.GA44636@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B38E632.9090307@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B38E632.9090307@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:17:58 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >Are you sure you understand me? I was talking about mirroring the > >whole repository with cvsup/cvsupd protocol, that's where the > >"Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" error occurs. > > Sorry, I missed the part of conversation about cvs mode in cvsup. > I thought you were talking about cvs not working... If subversion could be used to mirror whole repositories I will consider switching to it. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 03:46:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385EA1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46B58FC1A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBT3kAj7026966; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:46:12 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.c76.54cbce32 (44047); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd07.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD073-ac0f4b397b7b1e0; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:46:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4B397B7B.70601@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:46:03 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <4B393F6F.9060607@netscape.net> <4B394BEA.40008@netscape.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:46:35 -0000 [...] > add > > dbus_enable="YES" > hald_enable="YES" > > to your /etc/rc.conf. That will most likely clear your problem. > [...] I will give this a go soon :-) > > > That's what I do with mine under FreeBSD, for both servers and workstations. > Having both servers and workstations is cool as both of them need to be looked at very differently! I like having Linux for desktop systems due to the full multimedia traits of it. I mean Debian or Ubuntu is pretty cool, Red Hat based Fedora is problematic as by default some packages don't work properly so you end up having to hack around the problem. Also multimedia is a slight pain in Fedora due to having to add extra repos to get things like MP3's working since there is some licensing issue. For servers one can pretty much install anything just for raw services. However when one starts considering performance attributes such as disk write speed, ease of adding storage, memory usage, security etc into the equation then one must side with one of the UNIX's around. Different UNIX versions have different strengths and weaknesses but it is nice to get to know as many as possible in order to actually identify and see these attributes in live real time so that in a professional capacity one has the experience to choose the correct system for the task at hand. > > > I need to dive back into Linux - I want to figure out Xen now that it > can do live migrations/failover, and FreeBSD doesn't do Dom0 - yet. > So, I'll probably try out CentOS, though I suppose I could use NetBSD. > Aaaah yes Citrix Xen, it's cool - read the manual but haven't played with it. Yeah I would run Linux just in case there are some things you wish to do but can't in BSD although I can't comment on the differences as I haven't seen them myself yet. I am really a big fan of testing systems on Suns Virtual Box! Is almost like running a disposable OS. Plug in and play then throw away until you need a proper H/W install :-) > > > Eh. I just want something that works and keeps out of my way - xfce > seems to do that just fine. For me, 'cool' is the apps and what I can > do with them. > Hahahaha :-) As long as I can listen to music and watch videos I am ok, oh as well as browse web, check mail and use the occasional office app..... the rest is all CLI for me...... However I will use a few more things too rarely - even 3D games. I do like flashy screens though that no body can understand apart from a trained operator :-P - tried this with normal lighting effect too as I tried to emulate an aircraft landing strip with Christmas tree lights. Where I live currently is like a complex with a few houses enclosed in a site with private security etc. Anyway we put my lighting effect in the entrance and before we knew it rained blowing out everything even the backup generator and almost electrocuting everyone living inside....... it was so embarrassing for that to happen to a person with an electrical/electronic engineering degree :-O aaaah oh well! I blame the site manager as he bought indoor lights as they were cheap!!! --Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 05:30:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAF3106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF398FC16 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBT5TuoA089938; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:56 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Fbsd1 In-Reply-To: <20091228230618.7FB7310656F1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20091229134453.G81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091228230618.7FB7310656F1@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-697707090-1262064596=:81420" Cc: Jerry McAllister , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:30:11 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-697707090-1262064596=:81420 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 291, Issue 3, Message: 1 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:57 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed First up, you'd be better off using a non-Windows charset here, as they use weird characters just for ordinary things like quotes, as below. > How is this rewrite correct? > > Users with Microsoft/Windows knowledge of how a hard drive is configured > may have a terminology issue with FreeBSD. Microsoft/Windows and FreeBSD > use the word partition to mean different (but related) things. > > The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on > the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary > dos partition” and “extended dos partition”. > A single “primary dos partition” occupying all the space on the hard > drive would be assigned drive letter C. You can also sub-divide the hard > drive into multiple “primary dos partition” each one being assigned a > drive letter C, D, E, F, Not exactly, and I assume you're hoping to be exact. Disclaimer: I know nothing about Vista or its successor Windows 7, nor do I care to, but I've used many DOS versions - 3, 5, 6 (base of Win 3.1), 7 (under Win95 through to XP) - in both MS and IBM variants, plus IBM OS/2 v2 and v3, and have had some exposure to NT (4 and 5), the latter having been being merged into Win2k and XP to some degree, including of course its NTFS. All of these, at least from DOS 3 (c. '86?) use the same MBR setup, a maximum of 4 Primary Partitions, one (and only one) of which may be an Extended DOS Partition, containing as many Logical Drives as you like; they're formed as a linked list, though I never used past Drive J: with OS/2 (HPFS). (I'm using caps here to refer to the DOS nomenclature) In all of these, you can't access more than one Primary Partition from any DOS-based OS; if you wish to have drives D:, E:, F: (etc) then these _must_ be in the single Extended Partition - so your statement above is not correct in that respect. > An alternate method is to allocate an “extended dos partition” and then > sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. One of these Not limited to F: as above (adding the DOS colon as Polytropon suggests) > “primary dos partitions” or one of the logical dos drives in the > “extended dos partition” must be set as the active partition to boot > from. I don't think even XP can boot from a Logical Drive in the Extended Partition. OS/2 can be installed to and booted from a Logical Drive (though only by using the OS/2 Boot Manager or Grub ono), as can most? varieties of Linux. I'm not sure about NT, but certainly DOS 3 to 7 cannot boot from other than drive C: - though DOS Drive C: need not be the first physical disk partition, indeed there can be several, though only the first one marked Active is called C: by DOS on any one boot. > In a multiple partition allocation only one partition can be > marked as bootable at one time. Typically legacy Microsoft/Windows > Win3.1, Win95, Win98, WinMe, and Win2000 defaulted to a single “primary > dos partition”. Starting with XP, PC manufactures started to provide > support for their PC’s operating system by having a second “primary dos > partition” where the original factory version of the system was hidden > and used to restore the C drive back to the factory version when > corrupted by a virus. Again, not exactly or always correct. Compaq at least were providing a 'hidden' Primary Partition as early as '98 on laptops, for a diagnostics boot (running DOS 6.2 with a mini-Win 3.1 'desktop', FWIW). And while most OEMs and computer shops were in that 'default' habit of installing a single C: partition (and many still are), that was an install choice; most people with a clue were using multiple DOS Drives, requiring use of the Extended Partition, since DOS 3. > Microsoft/Windows provides no native method of > selecting which partition to boot from in a multiple partition allocation. At least NT, Win2k and XP can multiboot .. W2k uses C:\boot.ini listing bootable OSes, and as I recall it's called \NTLDR.something on XP. > FreeBSD’s fdisk program allocates disk space into slices. A FreeBSD > slice is the same thing as a Microsoft/Windows “primary dos partition”. > FreeBSD has nothing akin to an “extended dos partition”. The Although FreeBSD can mount and access the multiple Logical Drives as slices 5 and up. I'm not sure if FreeBSD has any limit to the number of such slices it can access, but I've recovered multiple HPFS 'drives' that way, and you can access DOS FAT, NTFS, HPFS (requires compiling code still in the tree at 8.0-R) and Linux ext2 and ext3 filesystems. It's true that sysinstall can't access such slices, there are comments in the code suggesting it should maybe be added, though unlikely now :) > Microsoft/Windows partition and the FreeBSD slice is where the operating > system software is installed. Microsoft/Windows operating system creates > default folders that share the space in the partition. The FreeBSD It's not clear what you mean here by 'folders that share the space'? > ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into smaller chunks > called partitions. In a standard install of FreeBSD, these partitions > are the default directory names used by the operating system. It's 'disklabel', and I defer to Polytropon's clarification of this bit. > The motherboard standard which was created in the days before windows > desktop were even though of yet and at which time Microsoft DOS (disk > operating system) was the only thing available. This legacy standard has And IBM PCDOS of course, though it and MSDOS were pretty much the same. > continued un-updated to this current time and contributes to the > limitations imposed on booting, disk layout and selection of which > allocation on the hard disk to boot from. > > The motherboard BIOS ROM chip at power up inquires each device > (floppies, cdrom, hard drive, usb memory stick) you selected in the BIOS > menu to boot from. > > The hard drive has a MBR (Master Boot Record) a (512 byte block) located > in sector-0 of the first physical track on the hard drive. This MBR > contains bootstrap code and the disk partition table created by the > fdisk program. The BIOS boot code reads the MBR code and disk partition > table into memory and then transfers control to it. This MBR code is > responsible for parsing the partition table and finding the bootable > slice/partition that is marked 'active'. The MBR code then sets up the > disk-address-offset information for the bootable slice/partition, and > reads 'relative sector zero' from that slice/partition, and transfers > control to that one-sector block of code that contains the unique > operating system code to load it into memory. That's all about right. Some (eg OS/2 Boot Manager, maybe grub?) locate loader code after the MBR on track 0, side 0, but that's not so common. > This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Do to > it’s size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. This means no > matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only > sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. Well, ignoring the fact that one of these can be an Extended Partition with any number of 'Logical Drives' and/or FreeBSD slices on it, but except for Linux and OS/2 (that I know of), these are generally not bootable slices, yet fine for data and sharing with other installed OS. And with FreeBSD of course you can have up to 4 slices, each with its own partitions, so you can boot say FreeBSD 6, 7, 8 and 9, or DOS and 7 and 8, plus any number of Linux varieties from the Extended Partition. On my Thinkpad I run DOS (w2k, solely for BIOS upgrades :), 7.2-S and 8.0-R, plus room for Debian, either as a Primary or Extended slice. > The default MBR code written by the Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is > hard coded to boot the C drive. The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to > write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. No, it's boot0cfg not fdisk that writes the boot program to disk (though DOS's 'FDISK /MBR' will!). And don't forget that setting boot0cfg boot slice to 5 transfers control to the boot sector on a second hard drive. > There are MBR boot menu programs in the FreeBSD ports collection that > you can load into the MBR on the first physical cabled hard drive to > scan for other bootable primary-partitions/slices on this hard drive and > any other hard drives cabled to the PC. It displays a menu giving you > the option to choose which one you want to boot from. This gives you the > ability to have more that one operating system installed on your PC at > one time. Indeed. HTH, Ian --0-697707090-1262064596=:81420-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 06:36:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64941065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4538FC12 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBT6aIji056200; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:36:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:36:18 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:36:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:20 -0000 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: >>> I wouldn't install old versions of xdm. If there's a doubt about one of >>> the many things xdm depends on, you can do 'portupgrade -Rf xdm'. It'll >>> take quite a while. >> >> It may be somehting like this. The system comes up with DNS via DHCP. >> Because I am starting xdm manually at this point I know DNS is working >> before xdm is itself is named localhost with no associated domain to avoid >> this. > > I don't quite understand that sentence. Normally all I have in /etc/hosts > (on the machine with X, anyway) is: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > Everything else comes from DHCP. > > AFAIR, xdm did okay with only the /etc/hosts entry and no DNS. Without > either, it really had problems. I didn't try it with localhost undefined but > with a DNS server. Probably should have. > >> I will follow your advice on xdm. I appreciate you sharing your experience >> and insights. > > Certainly. It'll be nice to have an answer for this when it comes up again. The answer appears to be to add an empty LISTEN statement to /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess. The xdm package issues a IPV6 DHCP request. While the xdm man page suggests this is not needed: To disable listening for XDMCP connections altogther, a line of LISTEN with no addresses may be specified, or the previously supported method of setting DisplayManager.requestPort to 0 may be used. This seems not to be the case as adding this line gets rid of the long delay and suppresses the IPV6 DHCP request. The DisplayManager.requestPort is set to 0 in the default configuration. This solves the long start (I am pretty sure). Thank you for your suggestions that pushed me to find this. I am also pretty sure my hardware just does not work with hal and dbus. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 11:11:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93781065692 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977998FC1A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPZzT-00042p-VQ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:54 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPZzT-000613-82; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:51 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTBBpEa015470; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:51 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTBBoGn015469; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:50 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:50 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:55 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I use fetchmail > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html > > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > > server to my fbsd box. > > > > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires > > having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc > > > > I'm a little worried about the security of having > > my password in plain text on the system. > > chown you:yourgroup ~/.fetchmailrc > chmod 400 ~/.fetchmailrc > > With these changes, only you and the superuser can read that file. yes, an attacker gaining superuser access is my worry. I'm reading Garfinkel and Spafford (1996) Practical UNIX & internel security (a bit out of date, I know. I ordered the 3rd edition, 2003), and I realised there are a lot of potential security issues, of which I wasn't aware. Things like SUID/SGID files could be an issue, and lots of other things. > > Is there a more secure arrangement that would > > still allow running fetchmail in daemon mode? > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over the network > using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if your mailserver allows it. it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. > > Or maybe there is another software solution > > alltogether? > > Presumably you are running a mailserver on your box. You can ask the > administrator to forward mail to your machine by making an MX record for it. not sure I understand you here. I run sendmail daemon just for sending mail out of the box, and delivery of internal mail inside the box. Sendmail doesn't listen for any incoming connections. Could you please elaborate, or give a link. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 12:25:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E487F106568D for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452D98FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13395519 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:25:15 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBTCPFZS070357 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:25:15 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBTCP4mt070355 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:25:04 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:25:04 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229122504.GA70217@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:18 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use fetchmail > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > server to my fbsd box. > > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires > having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc > > I'm a little worried about the security of having > my password in plain text on the system. If your Uni mail server supports Kerberos, the only line in your ~/.fetchmailrc could be something like poll mail.yourserver.edu auth gssapi And you have to periodically refresh the Kerberos ticket. Works for me (I download mail from a Communigate Pro mail server). Of course root can have access to your Kerberos credentials cache, but I think it would be of more limited use than a plain text password. Actually my complete ~/.fetchmailrc is ============================ defaults protocol pop3 mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -d %T" nokeep fetchall set syslog poll mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru auth gssapi ============================ -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 11:27:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7AE1065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.dawalibi@idm.net.lb) Received: from claudiusfe.idm.net.lb (smtpout.idm.net.lb [194.126.4.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534658FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:27:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GBrw3aV3GyW90BPbNL2d6g)" Received: from Daniello ([194.126.5.17]) by claudiusfe.idm.net.lb (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KVE007GAVQHH610@claudiusfe.idm.net.lb> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:25:30 +0200 (EET) From: Daniel Dawalibi To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:27:00 +0200 Message-id: <057401ca8879$d6ae2dc0$11057ec2@Daniello> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-index: AcqIedZrtpA7LZCoTKyTRpAcyr2n1w== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:32:05 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: controller SUN STK RAID int on Sun Server X4140 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:27:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_GBrw3aV3GyW90BPbNL2d6g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi We have installed FreeBSD 7.2 on Sun Server X4140 having the below controller Controller Kernel v5.2 build 16732 Adapter Raid Bios V5.2-0 Buil [16732] STK RAID INT Each time we power cycle the server, the server may or may not come up. Below are the messages from the log file: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b2901e4f7f2e8a7 removed. WARNING: /local/cd_0 was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b2906a3d7dd8dc4 removed. WARNING: /local/cd_1 was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b2907343b10adba removed. .. aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffffe8023562 TIMEOUT AFTER 27915 SECONDS aac0: WARNING! Controller is no longer running! code=0xbc6201 Do you have any idea about the issue we are facing? Regards, Daniel Dawalibi System Engineer e-mail:daniel.dawalibi@idm.net.lb Jisr Al Bacha P.O. Box 11-316 Beirut Lebanon tel +961 1 512513 ext. 366| fax +961 1 510474 tech support 1282 | http://www.idm.net.lb PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and attachments is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. 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Violation of this notice may be unlawful. --Boundary_(ID_GBrw3aV3GyW90BPbNL2d6g)-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 12:55:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040281065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0898FC16 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTCtFXM071523; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:55:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D07E9BAAD; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:55:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:55:14 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091229125514.GA27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:55:22 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:11:50AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >=20 > > With these changes, only you and the superuser can read that file.=20 >=20 > yes, an attacker gaining superuser access is my worry. > I'm reading Garfinkel and Spafford (1996) Practical UNIX & internel secur= ity > (a bit out of date, I know. I ordered the 3rd edition, 2003), > and I realised there are a lot of potential security issues, of which > I wasn't aware. Things like SUID/SGID files could be an issue, > and lots of other things. If an attacker gains superuser privilege, you're screwed. But remote attacks are the least of your worries, IMHO. If an attacker has physical access to your machine, he can simply rip out the harddisk an peruse its contents at his leasure. That is why you need disk encryption. Or he could put a hardwa= re keylogger between your keyboard and the computer to gat your passwords. So,=20 1) Make sure that the room where your machine is located can be and is locked when you are away, denying attackers physical access. 2) Encrypt those partitions that contain sensitive data using geli(8), in c= ase (1) fails. After that you can start worrying about remote attacks.=20 3) Activate a firewall that is set up to deny incoming connections be default, unless they go to a port that is allowed.=20 4) If you need to run servers, consider running them in a jail(8) or at lea= st in a chroot(8) environment. Look e.g. how it is done for named(8), see /etc/rc.d/named.=20 > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over the ne= twork > > using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if your mailserver all= ows it. >=20 > it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. Does it allow SSH connections to the mail machine, so you can tunnel fetchm= ail over ssh? Look at the ssh(1) manpage, specifically the '-L' port forwarding option. > > > Or maybe there is another software solution > > > alltogether? > >=20 > > Presumably you are running a mailserver on your box. You can ask the > > administrator to forward mail to your machine by making an MX record fo= r it. >=20 > not sure I understand you here. I run sendmail daemon just for sending ma= il > out of the box, and delivery of internal mail inside the box. Sendmail > doesn't listen for any incoming connections. > Could you please elaborate, or give a link. Your mail admin should set up the uni's MTA so that mail for you is sent to the MTA on your machine. You should set up your MTA and firewall so that yo= ur MTA will and can listen for incoming connections and process them. If the uni's mailserver holds on to mail and tries to deliver it at intervals, this is called batched SMTP or bSMTP, if it tries to deliver immediately, it is just SMTP. Note that for SMTP to work, your machine had best be on 24/7. The details of how this is done depend on the MTA that you and the universi= ty are using, and e.g. if address rewriting is used and if so, how. The most common scenario would be that when an e-mail for you arrives at the uni mailserver, it re-writes the address from to , where 'yourmachine' is the hostname of y= our machine on the university network. It would then forward the mail to the MTA on yourmachine.bristol.ac.uk. An opposite rewrite should be done when your MTA pushes stuff to the uni webserver. But whether your MTA should do that = or the uni's MTA is a question of policy. In short: for details, talk to a mail/network administrator. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks5/DIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU0agCeOpbotGboiWbisJ2kuWmi+m/E B+sAoKgsgQoWxkIayyTYAQ0hmpjTsWeF =r0Wk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 12:58:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808731065696 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 263A48FC0A for ; 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:58:04 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:50 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht replied: >On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> > I use fetchmail >> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html >> > to download all my mail from the Uni mail >> > server to my fbsd box. >> > >> > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires >> > having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc >> > >> > I'm a little worried about the security of having >> > my password in plain text on the system. I ran across this URL: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Secure-POP+SSH.html It might be what you are looking for. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Justice always prevails ... three times out of seven! Michael J. Wagner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 13:04:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5699910656A6 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D8F8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2009 08:04:50 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LIE16496; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2009 08:03:54 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:03:53 -0500 To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:04:51 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if > > your mailserver allows it. > > it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. It is my understanding ISPs - at least those in the U.S. oriented to the home user - rarely do, It's a non-trivial amount of work to get working and then monitor for correct behavior and possible breaches. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 13:09:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6328C1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55C28FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTD9CDT037602; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7B693BAAD; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:12 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Daniel Dawalibi Message-ID: <20091229130912.GB27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <057401ca8879$d6ae2dc0$11057ec2@Daniello> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <057401ca8879$d6ae2dc0$11057ec2@Daniello> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: controller SUN STK RAID int on Sun Server X4140 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:09:15 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 01:27:00PM +0200, Daniel Dawalibi wrote: > Hi > > We have installed FreeBSD 7.2 on Sun Server X4140 having the below > controller=20 >=20 > Controller Kernel v5.2 build 16732 > Adapter Raid Bios V5.2-0 Buil [16732] > STK RAID INT >=20 > Each time we power cycle the server, the server may or may not come up. > Below are the messages from the log file: >=20 > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4b2901e4f7f2e8a7 removed. You can ignore these GEOM_LABEL messages. They're harmless. =20 > WARNING: /local/cd_0 was not properly dismounted This is just what it says; the filesystem /local/cd_0 wasn't umount-ed befo= re reboot. Maybe it was still in use by some process when the system tried to dismount it. Have a look at when/how it is mounted, and which programs are using it. > aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffffe8023562 TIMEOUT AFTER 27915 SECONDS > aac0: WARNING! Controller is no longer running! code=3D0xbc6201 Not a clue as to what this is. Have a look at the aac(4) manual page. Maybe enhancing the debug level will produce more informative messages. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks5/3gACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXQfgCfUITWloKsZVo117rNDOAeLOdu OiIAnjd2vcHm4C7qfqe/bKl4cnvCo2lW =egav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 13:22:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3BA1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6378FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTDM9Rg074647; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:22:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D18EBAAD; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:22:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:22:09 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:22:19 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:03:53AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over=20 > > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if > > > your mailserver allows it.=20 > > =20 > > it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. >=20 > It is my understanding ISPs - at least those in the > U.S. oriented to the home user - rarely do, It's a non-trivial > amount of work to get working and then monitor for correct behavior > and possible breaches. Agreed. Which is exactly why I like xs4all so much. :-) They do provide the= se kinds of services. But I would expect a university network (which I understand what the OP is talking about) to offer something more sophisticated than plain POP3. I wou= ld expect at least bSMTP. Bristol seems to have a computer science department. That's at least a pool of warm bodies to train as sysadmins. :-P Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6AoEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUSoACfaVBaOYv19Fzx6ozpj2mkRTzt 1LYAnjW4oyDzpifPE7rMcZ63ytERkArm =qGNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 13:44:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B01A106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB03D8FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPcN4-0006Ja-9y; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:25 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPcN3-0001Nw-DP; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTDiL5b015899; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTDiL4A015898; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Robert Huff , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:29 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:22:09PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > > U.S. oriented to the home user - rarely do, It's a non-trivial > > amount of work to get working and then monitor for correct behavior > > and possible breaches. > > Agreed. Which is exactly why I like xs4all so much. :-) They do provide these > kinds of services. > > But I would expect a university network (which I understand what the OP is > talking about) to offer something more sophisticated than plain POP3. I would > expect at least bSMTP. Bristol seems to have a computer science > department. That's at least a pool of warm bodies to train as sysadmins. :-P it doesn't work like that.. I think it's an imap server. Anyway, I'm trying to get in touch with them. One of the problems is that the Uni are trying to implement a system where mail is never downloaded from the main mail servers at all. At least this is what I gather. So when users launch their mulberry (a typical Uni mail client) they connect to the mail servers, read and reply and whatever, but the data is just viewed on PCs and not stored there. I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably not very welcome. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 13:45:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796D31065693 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML105.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpm-eml105.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A47F8FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:49 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTDjoFk097918; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTDjnuq097917; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:49 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: jeffry killen Message-ID: <20091229134549.GA90870@Alex1.lan> References: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 13:45:49.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B0E9C60:01CA888D] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Salvage files from harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:45:51 -0000 On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:07:51AM -0700, jeffry killen wrote: > I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that > will not boot. > In single user mode I can mount /var. > > I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and > try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. > > The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with > /var. > > Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I > best go about this? I've changed the size of the disk slices by copying files over to a nother disk, boot from that one and later back. I would suggest using 'rsync -aHW source dest" And later remove with 'chflags -R noschg source; rm -rf source' -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:07:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB497106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML110.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpm-eml110.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FEA8FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML110.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:44 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTE7iTA036477; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTE7iiS036476; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:44 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229140744.GB90870@Alex1.lan> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 14:07:44.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AAC3B70:01CA8890] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:07:46 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:49:31PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently > installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I > tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the > documentation through fully beforehand) but I didn't manage to get the > mouse or keyboard to even work let alone starting the Gnome2 interface. Beside the two daemons others refered to, you sould also edit ~/.initrc and ~/xsession. For me both have the line: 'exec startkde'. Thats the command to start kde. > I am looking to setup a small file server which I will use as DNS and > NTP server also. The reason for selecting FreeBSD is that the system I > about to install onto doesn't have much memory (not sure how much but > probably in the region of 300-500MB perhaps) and although Linux would > definitely suite this kind of system as Solaris needs round 2GB or so > for OpenSolaris, I am quite interested to learn FreeBSD but also take > advantage of the ZFS file system which is standard now in version 8. I would stick with UFS of UFS2. The latter if you don't intent to share them with *BSD. As I understand ZFS uses quite a lot more resources. If I wanted to something with RAID I might still use it, but even so still would use UFS to the system slices. If you low on disk space you can reduce this. I have used 256M for / in the past but would advise against this. You would need something like 8G for /usr. But may need to raise that by 5G if you build ports. I have larger /temp of 7G, but also build ports there. If you build Java it would need a least 4G. > I won't be installing a GUI on this machine since it is going to be a > server so I would like to know if BSD has a small footprint memory and > CPU wise for me to run on the machine in question which is a PIV? It's not a problem. The footprint depends more on the ports you like to run. > Also just to make sure: NFS, Samba, NTPd, and ISC's Bind are all > supported on FreeBSD aren't they?? Some come with the system, others you have to install. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:08:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE84C1065695 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918F48FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CC81F087 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-200-187.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.200.187]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF012DB6A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1NPckr-0001G1-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:08:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:08:57 -0500 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 09:04:22 up 90 days, 16:18, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.05 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: What port contains libxcb.so.2, and hoow could I figure this out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:08:58 -0000 One of my machines is suddenly complaining that it can't find libxcb.so.2. This is probably an issue related to a recent attempt to update the software on this machine, so I figured I'd just rebuild the port that provides this library, but I can't figure out how to determine which on that would be. I have the feeling that I should be able to use pkg_info for this, but I can't seem to figure out how to accomplish this. Is this the right tool? If so, how do I use it for this, if not, what is the correct tool? Thanks. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:09:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B1E106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC898FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPclS-0000Do-EC; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPclR-0001sV-I5; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:34 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTE9XVM016028; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTE9XWM016027; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:33 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091229140933.GA16016@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Robert Huff , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:09:48 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:22:09PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:03:53AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over > > > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if > > > > your mailserver allows it. > > > > > > it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. > > > > It is my understanding ISPs - at least those in the > > U.S. oriented to the home user - rarely do, It's a non-trivial > > amount of work to get working and then monitor for correct behavior > > and possible breaches. > > Agreed. Which is exactly why I like xs4all so much. :-) They do provide these > kinds of services. > > But I would expect a university network (which I understand what the OP is > talking about) to offer something more sophisticated than plain POP3. I would it's IMAP-4 server, whatever that means.. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:17:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B231E1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML105.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpm-eml105.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410F98FC23 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML105.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:17:19 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTEHKeL072786; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:17:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTEHK6p072785; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:17:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:17:20 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20091229141719.GC90870@Alex1.lan> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 14:17:20.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1D8B5D0:01CA8891] Cc: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:17:21 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 04:20:10PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal > are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html How come? The keybord and mouse work for me without on a simple shell. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:21:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783D71065693 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58138FC15 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTELV8r018995; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:21:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2E21BAAD; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:21:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:21:30 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091229142130.GA29795@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:21:36 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 01:44:21PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > it doesn't work like that.. >=20 > I think it's an imap server. >=20 > Anyway, I'm trying to get in touch with them. > One of the problems is that the Uni are trying to > implement a system where mail is never downloaded from the > main mail servers at all. At least this is what I gather. > So when users launch their mulberry (a typical Uni mail > client) they connect to the mail servers, read and reply > and whatever, but the data is just viewed on PCs and not > stored there. I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. > So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their > imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably > not very welcome. Fetchmail can use the IMAP protocol, and therefore should be just as welcome as any other IMAP client. And if you can read a message , it _is_ downloade= d.=20 The advantage of IMAP is that it allows you to partially download message. If I read the [IMAP page] and [IMAP RFC] correctly, the latter mandates the use of authentication. Quoting the latter; Note: a server implementation MUST implement a configuration in which it does NOT permit any plaintext password mechanisms, unless either the STARTTLS command has been negotiated or some other mechanism that protects the session from password snooping has been provided.=20 In other words, a proper IMAP server does not permit plaintext passwords. [IMAP page]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol [IMAP RFC]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6EGoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUKawCfXp/4Jc8H1CR2SDwStIZXqE6O CH0AnjD/LOX1TyCI6ZfNMugo48O5vyzT =E+uI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:23:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB2210656A3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpm-eml103.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2826C8FC25 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:23:10 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTENBrh013241; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:23:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTENAPa013036; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:23:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:23:10 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2009 14:23:10.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[72EB81C0:01CA8892] Cc: Adam Vande More , Kaya Saman Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:23:12 -0000 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:04:52PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > > Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to > > check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by > > device ID. > > Example after a dirty shutdown: > > fsck -y FreeBSD 7 and up is able to do a lot of this on the background: fsck -yB Adding the line 'fsck_y_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf will run fsck -y if the initial preen fails -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:33:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8019E1065670 for ; 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Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:33:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> References: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:33:41 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912290633j14fdf5a7g5954a398139858a2@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What port contains libxcb.so.2, and hoow could I figure this out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:33:44 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:08 AM, stan wrote: > One of my machines is suddenly complaining that it can't find libxcb.so.2. > This is probably an issue related to a recent attempt to update the > software > on this machine, so I figured I'd just rebuild the port that provides this > library, but I can't figure out how to determine which on that would be. > > I have the feeling that I should be able to use pkg_info for this, but I > can't seem to figure out how to accomplish this. Is this the right tool? If > so, how do I use it for this, if not, what is the correct tool? > > Thanks. > > it# pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 was installed by package libxcb-1.5 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:35:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0B2106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE2E8FC1E for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBTEZ5uk014050 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:35:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:35:05 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230004339.Y81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: fpc on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:35:08 -0000 Hi to .. any old Turbo Pascal hackers out there, who've used fpc on FreeBSD. I have some astronomy and sound related code from last century that I want to resume working on. Mostly lots of float number-crunching and file processing, no gui stuff till the underlying processing all goes. I've tried some other languages, but can only really think straight into Pascal, to fully declare my disability - please don't try to cure me :) Is fpc's IDE usable, like good ol' TP6 and 7, never mind Delphi? Docs seem vast, I'm wondering if there's a simple guide to basic compilation, but basically I'd just like to hear that it's working ok for someone and is worth the learning curve? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:36:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E21210656A3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBF68FC20 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so8382970ewy.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CI5Em2ql4D2nun0mf8/5mUxcWOXwZgEcS5bI7DgevUY=; b=F7s6bo11cW5SDTwMJQzUzboXfa7bsz1YZpk/V4Te74oN3xIQ0Txl0iHcl08Z3klAH6 IXlLCJMzsf1h3o4nPGuUgRTegtOfbgYBgQomzOtFnt3e/xHCV9u2UzX05weJgsDS/EtL B2J8sujbaDDRG2LnvfERcBoL8hd4mRAS0M9Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hBQ9Pn0sHUn00nmj+Dx0CpXsMQMoSKPwRFtpSQy+1IgWKqouucIdAJER0dhKBiVlB7 +phDZty1RymJPRnmVUQ5HcvNaHnC8frt46hmWg9dHW7w/KiEVKEV3zC+YNg9iGAd0iZy ztY+FJ84cBBtQnA0QCpvoXLwss/bE7zRw9nlM= Received: by 10.216.88.146 with SMTP id a18mr1545736wef.56.1262097375561; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm34958127gve.27.2009.12.29.06.36.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:36:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:36:01 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229143601.15b2e3db@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091229142130.GA29795@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229142130.GA29795@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:36:22 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:21:30 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > In other words, a proper IMAP server does not permit plaintext > passwords. No, it MUST be implemented, but only SHOULD be used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 14:45:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908EB106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2BA8FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHedOUtUXeby/2dsb2JhbADVX4QzBIFl Received: from relay01.plus.net ([84.93.230.242]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2009 14:16:12 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NPcrs-00015R-Lq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:16:12 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NPcrs-0000NV-9y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:16:12 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:16:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912291416.12156.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 73532414798273832c935a73a22013e8 Subject: pkg_info fails with "leave_playpen: can't chdir back to ''" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:45:18 -0000 If I run pkg_info as root it fails as shown below. But if I run it as a normal user I get a list of all 708 packages without any error. curlew:/root# uname -a FreeBSD curlew.lan 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec 13 15:40:42 GMT 2009 root@curlew.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 curlew:/root# pkg_info -Ia GraphicsMagick-1.1.15_1,1 Fast image processing tools based on ImageMagick ORBit2-2.14.17 High-performance CORBA ORB with support for the C language OpenEXR-1.6.1_2 A high dynamic-range (HDR) image file format a2ps-a4-4.13b_4 Formats an ascii file for printing on a postscript printer aalib-1.4.r5_4 An ascii art library adobe-cmaps-20051217_1 Adobe CMap collection pkg_info: leave_playpen: can't chdir back to '' -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 15:20:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC5C1065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB918FC21 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBTFK0tJ032039 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:20:00 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id n.d4f.67eba930 (43995) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd06.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD064-abdb4b3a1e1b2dd; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:19:54 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> In-Reply-To: <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:20:16 -0000 Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:04:52PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: >> >>> Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to >>> check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by >>> device ID. >>> >> Example after a dirty shutdown: >> >> fsck -y >> > > FreeBSD 7 and up is able to do a lot of this on the background: fsck -yB > > Adding the line 'fsck_y_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf will run fsck -y > if the initial preen fails > Many thanks guys for all the advice!!!! :-) It is really appreciated! Sorry haven't snipped more stuff into this mail but things are a bit hectic here but what I will say is this; in a few hours once the BSD 8 DVD ISO comes in I will attempt an install and have a look at what's what. The server will be constructed first and then I will look at the GUI environment with Vbox. I reckon the proposed disk usage spec from the FreeBSD hand book should suffice though shouldn't it?? With a larger HD I would normally do something like 15 - 25GB / (root) partition and the rest for /home with round 1.5 - 3GB for swap. Now my HD is round 40GB so I will do a minimal install and try to maximize the /home slice! As result only services I will run are DNS, NTP, SAMBA and NFS. I suppose I could get away with something like 2GB for / which would then contain /tmp, /etc, /root, /boot etc..... Only 2 machines will be connected, my uncles Win XP box and my Linux/Solaris system. --Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 15:35:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4711106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4C18FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTFZLVV045095; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBTFZL7L045092; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:21 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@safeport.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:35:22 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: [xdm slow startup] > The answer appears to be to add an empty LISTEN statement to > /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess. The xdm package issues a IPV6 DHCP request. > While the xdm man page suggests this is not needed: > > To disable listening for XDMCP connections altogther, a line of > LISTEN with no addresses may be specified, or the previously > supported method of setting DisplayManager.requestPort to 0 may > be used. > > This seems not to be the case as adding this line gets rid of the long delay > and suppresses the IPV6 DHCP request. The DisplayManager.requestPort is set > to 0 in the default configuration. This solves the long start (I am pretty > sure). Thank you for your suggestions that pushed me to find this. Hmm. That sounds like a bug (maybe IPV6 support being added but the feature to disable it being forgotten). Does having an IPV6 localhost defined in /etc/hosts ("::1 localhost") have the same effect? > I am also pretty sure my hardware just does not work with hal and dbus. What keyboard and mouse do you have? Also, which version of FreeBSD are you using? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:27:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A679F106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AA68FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPeud-0001xx-It; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:11 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14ED54AC20; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:11 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:27:28 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice!!!! :-) > > It is really appreciated! > > Sorry haven't snipped more stuff into this mail but things are a bit > hectic here but what I will say is this; in a few hours once the BSD 8 > DVD ISO comes in I will attempt an install and have a look at what's what. > > The server will be constructed first and then I will look at the GUI > environment with Vbox. > > I reckon the proposed disk usage spec from the FreeBSD hand book should > suffice though shouldn't it?? IMO the root slice is too small in the handbook. You should make it 2GB, since you've got the space. > > With a larger HD I would normally do something like 15 - 25GB / (root) > partition and the rest for /home with round 1.5 - 3GB for swap. > > Now my HD is round 40GB so I will do a minimal install and try to > maximize the /home slice! As result only services I will run are DNS, > NTP, SAMBA and NFS. What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: # ln -s /usr/home /home ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from the root partition. So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. How I'd slice up the disk: 2GB for / 2GB for swap 2GB for /var 34GB for /usr > > I suppose I could get away with something like 2GB for / which would > then contain /tmp, /etc, /root, /boot etc..... Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space to build. > > Only 2 machines will be connected, my uncles Win XP box and my > Linux/Solaris system. Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks as soon as you first boot up. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:29:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6521065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0658FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397451F08A; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-200-187.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.200.187]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192E22D52B; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1NPex1-00029D-00; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:29:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:29:39 -0500 From: stan To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20091229162939.GB7974@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Vande More , Free BSD Questions list References: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> <6201873e0912290633j14fdf5a7g5954a398139858a2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912290633j14fdf5a7g5954a398139858a2@mail.gmail.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 11:16:39 up 90 days, 18:30, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: What port contains libxcb.so.2, and hoow could I figure this out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:41 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:33:41AM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:08 AM, stan wrote: > > > One of my machines is suddenly complaining that it can't find libxcb.so.2. > > This is probably an issue related to a recent attempt to update the > > software > > on this machine, so I figured I'd just rebuild the port that provides this > > library, but I can't figure out how to determine which on that would be. > > > > I have the feeling that I should be able to use pkg_info for this, but I > > can't seem to figure out how to accomplish this. Is this the right tool? If > > so, how do I use it for this, if not, what is the correct tool? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > it# pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 > /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 was installed by package libxcb-1.5 > Thanks, I missed the -W switch when I scaned the man page. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:32:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3975F1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@xroff.net) Received: from xroff.net (xroff.net [200.46.208.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D528FC1E for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9114FD58C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xroff.net ([200.46.208.231]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40898-03 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PAM-INV-007.xroff.net (unknown [83.175.204.210]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E55954FD58B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:16:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:16:29 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20091229163216.3975F1065672@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: fpc on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:16 -0000 At 15:35 29/12/2009, you wrote: >Hi to .. > >any old Turbo Pascal hackers out there, who've used fpc on FreeBSD. > >I have some astronomy and sound related code from last century that I >want to resume working on. Mostly lots of float number-crunching and >file processing, no gui stuff till the underlying processing all goes. > >I've tried some other languages, but can only really think straight into >Pascal, to fully declare my disability - please don't try to cure me :) > >Is fpc's IDE usable, like good ol' TP6 and 7, never mind Delphi? Docs >seem vast, I'm wondering if there's a simple guide to basic compilation, >but basically I'd just like to hear that it's working ok for someone and >is worth the learning curve? Yes, it is usable, but there are other ides. You can try Lazarus, f.ex. Also, you can ask at the fpc lists, where there are better chances of help. >cheers, Ian ---------------------------------------------- Usefule Acronyms: EMFE = Excuse My For English From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:32:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C233A1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3998FC24 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTGWrKT045254; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:32:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBTGWr30045251; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:32:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:32:53 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: stan In-Reply-To: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: References: <20091229140857.GA4677@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:32:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: What port contains libxcb.so.2, and hoow could I figure this out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:32:54 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, stan wrote: > One of my machines is suddenly complaining that it can't find libxcb.so.2. > This is probably an issue related to a recent attempt to update the software > on this machine, so I figured I'd just rebuild the port that provides this > library, but I can't figure out how to determine which on that would be. > > I have the feeling that I should be able to use pkg_info for this, but I > can't seem to figure out how to accomplish this. Is this the right tool? If > so, how do I use it for this, if not, what is the correct tool? pkg_which will do it if you can provide the full path to the missing file. Which is easy if you already have the file installed and can find the full path (locate libxcb.so.2), but not so easy if it's missing. Sometimes, a simple "whereis" will help: % whereis libxcb libxcb: /usr/ports/x11/libxcb If the port is missing or outdated, pkgdb -F ought to let you install it. And of course there's always crushing brute force: % find /usr/ports -name pkg-plist -exec grep libxcb.so.2 {} + /usr/ports/x11/libxcb/pkg-plist:lib/libxcb.so.2 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:33:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CAE10656B4 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED998FC33 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nBTGXoVJ075036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTGXn9s004026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTGXn1R004014; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:49 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Victor Sudakov , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20091229163347.GI98917@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091201092938.GA49340@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091225064309.GA86796@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <2E6E2F96-2BB1-4579-9D60-352405BD69C0@hiwaay.net> <20091228031458.GA38511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091228054637.GA40308@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B3872E3.7030703@gmx.com> <20091228091152.GA44636@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B38E632.9090307@gmx.com> <20091229031756.GB62439@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229031756.GB62439@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:50 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Subject: Re: "Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:33:51 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 29), Victor Sudakov said: > Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > >Are you sure you understand me? I was talking about mirroring the whole > > >repository with cvsup/cvsupd protocol, that's where the "Checksum > > >mismatch -- will transfer entire file" error occurs. > > > > Sorry, I missed the part of conversation about cvs mode in cvsup. I > > thought you were talking about cvs not working... > > If subversion could be used to mirror whole repositories I will consider > switching to it. You can use the svnsync command to fetch a local copy of the FreeBSD svn repository, but that will only cover the base source tree. The ports tree and web pages are still CVS-only, so you would need to keep using cvsup for them. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59502106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144618FC12 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBTGbUD6008775; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:37:30 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id p.d64.46d2f9c3 (56030); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-md08.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD084-dade4b3a30463e; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:37:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:37:25 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:37:41 -0000 [...] > > What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > # ln -s /usr/home /home > > ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > the root partition. > > So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > How I'd slice up the disk: > > 2GB for / > 2GB for swap > 2GB for /var > 34GB for /usr > Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to have /var and /usr filesystems separate?? I guess it must be similar to the way Solaris handles things when UFS based (not ZFS)..... The /home partition then is very similar to Solaris in that /export/home is considered the user directory. Means BSD stores /home in /usr/home?? > > > Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really > fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space > to build. > OpenOffice or IIRC is for GUI based usage and not CLI. Since this will be a simple server no GUI or work will be done on the machine itself in terms of keyboard/mouse setup. Normally I work through SSH so will be much easier once I have network connectivity up and running after initial install :-) > > > Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks > as soon as you first boot up. > > Regards, > > Thanks!!! --Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:49:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78827106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from n11.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n11.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.125.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6878FC16 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.200.224] by n11.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2009 16:35:59 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2009 16:35:59 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.28] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2009 16:35:59 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.154] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2009 16:35:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp207.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2009 16:35:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 12750.93778.bm@omp207.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83762 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2009 16:35:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262104558; bh=5+kyhe0XAyGnjz6mlfwUtPqzugsQ5ZkiLQ1Do210R/Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mKa3/uHglJkiP6ecPVyqhtV4QdkOGORPaHEacgnhgqbq0jLq9j4mEzrpHIcmh6SdzTqa+4FU5panqGbOxaIZML5IJ7xM26naN83ohy5WuefQAlMLJJH0xUYveaJ8n/ODgWrgs4vQS34q86RqUqmUYSQXSBE4UhaC9CmB7kCHWA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ADSEtpQpnyFya8j5nUwPGlBy/pJJsL76+I20U+V/CNPAMP+nvJheDBX34Rpz/M1RwCdGP4vzYRbUyLYJgfZmJPa1abJbnNlM2x1wJO+LyYVQofYB0YIOek5Pt5RratV2jmRdlXzOMqZ5ITfRtiKlFRF5ub+6h2HR7TyI8MIqWTc=; Message-ID: <793133.83739.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x4heDmsVM1l1P9049BJiR4IA1njn1qCUoCVUiLTrOB6Y2K5ZQm9iTiVTXglt6P6RGEsAhoFG9z.SjA9fY0Gj657crxr_SBg0k2wViW7X3reXja3bAOdZ99vb88jUB3IFRnsN9Pl_qctyc_av.sYRjbkSSNJkKGjeXeBW3VHeLiOjWnk5VOddeLoklY71WtG1Bgx.QqZPBpRUSOFdYF7LeHBS3xsmrMYIJaan8HJaPxMYzEr7cq11Xf5tYrWCHG2fi7n_qtZ0r_RJjkWVq5RgukD1M2iGUa1kZM9O_5GO0BrrJdNQl3zdzO95DOlddN29pDvjW4JzFDmRceb3oSHQrQ-- Received: from [174.18.64.50] by web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:58 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:58 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: mplayer / bash question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:49:35 -0000 I'm trying to batch-rip audio files from a bunch of video files. I have a directory full of *.vob files: ls *.vob 01.vob 03.vob 05.vob 07.vob 09.vob 11.vob 13.vob 02.vob 04.vob 06.vob 08.vob 10.vob 12.vob So I wrote a little command line script to rip wave files from all the vob's: ls *.vob | > while read f > do > mplayer -ao pcm:file=`basename $f .vob`.wav $f > done the first 01.wav file is created successfully; but then the whole sh'bang exits without ripping the rest of the vob's: Exiting... (End of file) $ ====== "What did you do?" the man holding the flashlight asked. "I put down a spider," he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. "So it could get away." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:53:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCD71065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080D28FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so8520108ewy.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:53:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h0ZUZ3/FfIdru68/PvQamWUn+NCq2gJARKgjfQzpjuU=; b=d6Z31/4n/Tfiq5Rc8vQn8ouEb+nO08fBqZOSMUYBb703Gz3+NN4cLS4rkyhhB81xTq j1NyQ3BdB+vnDkPj+2ou5o94ZNqS4dlSUFygi3rWxORFipvzh2bhOy9eZEeu8UwFAYqn Ym3xrxs91EofjiIJkL6LIW03JBifoV/sZQEHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Nns6mXHWTtgbwnB0eyJVttjZUQhtCPC9SnuKXLNPD1GfnwuKMmKTalMVEMQd5cbZoG X7l+1Wai9mX3QleGyk3t9Po51L9V/90zOFIGHptglYmamaXU3ay4HucB5OaTzKKQ533l YtddJVM+p6oj+1+BR36ULoezswSRf1tQjNHNU= Received: by 10.216.89.10 with SMTP id b10mr2096920wef.182.1262105609645; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm34956042gvb.17.2009.12.29.08.53.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:53:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:24 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:42 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. > So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their > imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably > not very welcome. You probably are wrong, it's more a case of your not using it's full potential. I'm not really sure why you are doing it this way, I do something simailar, but only because I'm interested in spam-filtering. Why not just point your preferred mail client at the imap server? That way you can access your mail from anywhere (probably via webmail too) Some imap clients, such as thunderbird and kmail, will let you store your server passworks encrypted to a master-password, so even root can't read them. The IMAP server is probably more reliable too. If you want a local copy, or use a client with poor imap support, then offlineimap is pretty good. BTW personally I use getmail instead of fetchmail, I've not used fetchmail much, but I've read a lot of bad things about it - some of which are mentioned here: http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 16:54:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2AB106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5418FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccbh-194.acct.upmchs.net (inetnar10x.ft28.upmc.edu [128.147.28.1]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72432B825; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:54:44 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Eduardo Morras" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091229163216.3975F1065672@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:54:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Rod Person" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091229163216.3975F1065672@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (Win32) Cc: Subject: Re: fpc on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:54:49 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:16:29 -0500, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> Is fpc's IDE usable, like good ol' TP6 and 7, never mind Delphi? Docs >> seem vast, I'm wondering if there's a simple guide to basic compilation, >> but basically I'd just like to hear that it's working ok for someone and >> is worth the learning curve? > > Yes, it is usable, but there are other ides. You can try Lazarus, f.ex. > > Also, you can ask at the fpc lists, where there are better chances of > help. > Lazarus is like Delphi 5 or 7. I actually used it 4 or 5 years ago to port some Delphi code to FreeBSD and it worked pretty well. I used Lazarus and FPC to create a GUI cd burner for FreeBSD and a front end to a mysql db for tracking my album collection - but I moved to python so haven't used it in 4 years or so. Rod -- if i was cool and a mindless slave to trends and fashion, this would be sent from my iPhone, but it's not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:04:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21BD106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677A8FC1B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTH44Yu045385; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBTH445V045382; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> Message-ID: References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:04:06 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Kaya Saman wrote: >> How I'd slice up the disk: >> >> 2GB for / >> 2GB for swap >> 2GB for /var >> 34GB for /usr >> > > Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to have > /var and /usr filesystems separate?? It's not required, it's just nice to do if the disk space is available. You can allocate the whole disk to /. With all the free space in one filesystem, that's useful for small disks (under 8G, I'd say). Keeping the filesystems separate provides some versatility at the expense of splitting up the free space. dump(8)ing a 300M / or a 100M /var is a lot easier than a 100G whole disk. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:10:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45FB106568B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ACF8FC1F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nBTHAdmX079157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:10:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTHAcwA093419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:10:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTHAc9F093374; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:10:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:10:38 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Neil Short Message-ID: <20091229171038.GJ98917@dan.emsphone.com> References: <793133.83739.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <793133.83739.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:10:39 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer / bash question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:40 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 29), Neil Short said: > I'm trying to batch-rip audio files from a bunch of video files. > > I have a directory full of *.vob files: > > ls *.vob > 01.vob 03.vob 05.vob 07.vob 09.vob 11.vob 13.vob > 02.vob 04.vob 06.vob 08.vob 10.vob 12.vob > > So I wrote a little command line script to rip wave files from all the > vob's: > > > ls *.vob | > > while read f > > do > > mplayer -ao pcm:file=`basename $f .vob`.wav $f > > done > > the first 01.wav file is created successfully; but then the whole sh'bang > exits without ripping the rest of the vob's: Try this instead: for f in *.vob ; do mplayer -ao pcm:file=${f%.vob}.wav $f done Uses the shell's native file globbing to expand the *.vob wildcard, and the shell's native string processing functions to remove a suffix. If that still doesn't work, run the script with "sh -x" to turn debugging on, and see what your variables are expanding to as the script runs. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:21:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB220106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-8.bnguk.net (atmail-8.bnguk.net [80.74.253.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371AF8FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-8.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPfku-0003V3-6V; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:12 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 960BD4AC20; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:11 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229172111.GA38927@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:21:14 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > [...] > > > >What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > ># ln -s /usr/home /home > > > >ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > >the root partition. > > > >So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > > >How I'd slice up the disk: > > > >2GB for / > >2GB for swap > >2GB for /var > >34GB for /usr > > > > Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to > have /var and /usr filesystems separate?? You can have /var on the same slice but because it's a filesystem that's constantly being read & written to it's usual to keep it separate from your "static" partitions. > > I guess it must be similar to the way Solaris handles things when UFS > based (not ZFS)..... > > The /home partition then is very similar to Solaris in that /export/home > is considered the user directory. Means BSD stores /home in /usr/home?? Again, it's just a common practice. Due to the PC BIOS, IIRC you're restricted to 4 slices. > > > > > > >Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really > >fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space > >to build. > > > > OpenOffice or IIRC is for GUI based usage and not CLI. Since this will > be a simple server no GUI or work will be done on the machine itself in > terms of keyboard/mouse setup. Normally I work through SSH so will be > much easier once I have network connectivity up and running after > initial install :-) OK. You may want to make /tmp a separate slice. You can always make it a symlink into /usr at a latter date if you repurpose the machine. You would find that FreeBSD works quite well as a workstation even with that limited hardware. > > > > > >Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks > >as soon as you first boot up. > > > >Regards, > > > > > Thanks!!! > BTW, you mentioned you were going to use packages. If I were you I'd build from source. It's less problematic in my experience and since FreeBSD multitasks so well it's not much of a pain. You've got plenty of room for the ports tree. Best of luck with your installation! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:26:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4441065679 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C958FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPfqF-0005e3-QI; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:47 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPfqE-00061A-T6; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:43 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBTHQgDq017724; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:42 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBTHQgD6017723; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:42 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:42 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: RW Message-ID: <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:49 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:53:24PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 +0000 > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. > > So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their > > imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably > > not very welcome. > > You probably are wrong, it's more a case of your not using it's full > potential. I'm not really sure why you are doing it this way, I do > something simailar, but only because I'm interested in spam-filtering. > > Why not just point your preferred mail client at the imap server? > That way you can access your mail from anywhere (probably via > webmail too) Some imap clients, such as thunderbird and kmail, will > let you store your server passworks encrypted to a master-password, so > even root can't read them. The IMAP server is probably more reliable > too. Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap server? Without fetchmail? > If you want a local copy, or use a client with poor imap support, then > offlineimap is pretty good. > > > BTW personally I use getmail instead of fetchmail, I've not used > fetchmail much, but I've read a lot of bad things about it - some of > which are mentioned here: > > http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why interesting.. none of this is mentioned in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:30:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0773E106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62298FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBTHPqa5009947; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBTHPndY009946; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:25:48 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229172548.GA9656@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:30:37 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:27:11PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice!!!! :-) > > It is really appreciated! > > ... > > > > I reckon the proposed disk usage spec from the FreeBSD hand book should > > suffice though shouldn't it?? > > IMO the root slice is too small in the handbook. You should make it > 2GB, since you've got the space. First of all, you are mixing up your terminology. You do not mean 'slice' here. The unit used for root or any other filesystem in a non-"dangerously-dedicated" disk is called a partition. Partitions divisions of slices and are identified as a..h with c reserved for the system and by convention (and expectation of some pieces of software) 'a' is for the bootable OS partition (root) and 'b' is used for swap. In FreeBSD, partitions reside inside of slices. A slice is essentially the same thing as a DOS primary partition and is the initial (primary) division of a disk. A disk drive may have up to four slices identified as 1..4 and each may be made bootable or not and contain different OSen or OS versions. If a disk is only to be used for a single installation of FreeBSD, it is most common to define just one slice which encompasses the whole drive, leaving the other three slices empty and unused. (It is also common to define a 'dangerously dedicated' disk, but that is a different discussion issue than that being addressed here) In FreeBSD, slices are defined and created by the FreeBSD fdisk program, though a number of other partition management utilities can be used and FreeBSD seems to be moving to a new one too. In FreeBSD, one uses bsdlabel(8) to create partitions within a slice. Each slice can have up to 8 identified as a..h, but the 'c' partition is reserved and must be left unused. We use common names associated with partitions, such as / (root) /usr, /var, /home, etc. Those are essentially directories that are 'linked' to a partition by the mount system. You create a mount point using the mkdir(1) command and then link using mount(8). The 'a' partition becomes root because it gets mounted to the / mount point. Now, on to divvying up the disk. I agree that the root partition listed in the handbook is anciently too small. But, I don't see what you need 2GB for unless you put everything (/usr, /var, etc) in it. Since you are defining those separately, root really only needs about a half GigaByte. I am running a little low on one machine with 1/3 GB in root, but still going. I also create a partition for /tmp to keep it isolated from the other filesystems, in case something runs wild. > > > > With a larger HD I would normally do something like 15 - 25GB / (root) > > partition and the rest for /home with round 1.5 - 3GB for swap. > > > > Now my HD is round 40GB so I will do a minimal install and try to > > maximize the /home slice! As result only services I will run are DNS, > > NTP, SAMBA and NFS. > > What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > # ln -s /usr/home /home > > ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > the root partition. > > So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > How I'd slice up the disk: > > 2GB for / > 2GB for swap > 2GB for /var > 34GB for /usr > > > > I suppose I could get away with something like 2GB for / which would > > then contain /tmp, /etc, /root, /boot etc..... My suggestion is more like: partition mount point Size a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) d /tmp 512 MBytes e /usr 4096 MBytes f /var 4096 MBytes g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) If you are running a database, you will want /var to be larger or to move things in to that /home file system. I actually use a different mount point name than /home because /home is assumed for other things in some howto-s hanging around. I also move and symlink /usr/local /usr/ports /usr/src and sometimes /var/spool in to that '/home' filesystem and then make the actual /usr and /var only half the above sizes and increase the space in '/home' (33 GB) so they can grow there more easily. Things in a well running system do not grow so much in /tmp and if something does go wild and spew out a lot of stuff, you really want to notice it before it gobbles up 30GB of space, so you need enough /tmp to run easily, but do not want huge amounts. Thus, putting /tmp in its own limited partition is a bit of a protection. All users' login (home) directories and web content go in that '/home' filesystem too, where they can grow without having to redo disk later. In spite of the name that seems to suggest it, I never put users' home directories in /usr. It may have begun that way back in the earliest of days, but /usr has become part of the OS rather than the place for users to work so I don't want users's monkey business to foul up /usr. ////jerry > > Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really > fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space > to build. > > > > > Only 2 machines will be connected, my uncles Win XP box and my > > Linux/Solaris system. > > Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks > as soon as you first boot up. > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:31:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78FE10656A3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AED8FC22 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTHVdX9021604; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:31:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BCED2BA7A; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:31:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:31:39 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:31:42 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] > > > > What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > > # ln -s /usr/home /home > > > > ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > > the root partition. > > > > So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > > > How I'd slice up the disk: > > > > 2GB for / > > 2GB for swap > > 2GB for /var > > 34GB for /usr > > =20 >=20 > Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to= =20 > have /var and /usr filesystems separate?? It doesn't _need_ to have separate filesystems. It is just convenient. If y= ou want to stick everything (apart from swap) on a single / partition, you can= do so. If that is wise is another thing. :-) If your server will never hold mu= ch data (e.g. just a router/firewall) it would probably be fine. It depends on the use you want to put the machine to, and if/where you expe= ct to store a lot of stuff. For my desktop I tend to put /home on a separate partition because that is where most of my data is.=20 For a server I would put the big directories where the data is stored on separate partitions. E.g. the DocumentRoot for your Apache webserver. Or whereever the place is where an SQL server stores its data. > The /home partition then is very similar to Solaris in that /export/home= =20 > is considered the user directory. Means BSD stores /home in /usr/home?? If you don't make a separate /home partition, sysinstall will indeed default to making /home a symlink to /usr/home, AFAIK. For my desktop, with around 450 ports installed, I have the following lay-o= ut; Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a 484M 93M 353M 21% / /dev/ad4s1g.eli 373G 168G 175G 49% /home /dev/ad4s1e 48G 198K 45G 0% /tmp /dev/ad4s1f 19G 5.8G 12G 32% /usr /dev/ad4s1d 1.9G 226M 1.6G 12% /var For swap space (/dev/ad4s1b), I reserved 2x the size of the RAM. The 'Used' column should give you an idea of the minimum space needed for different filesystems. Keep in mind that disk space is relatively cheap, and it is much better to have lots of free space then to run out of space! This division makes it easy to use dump(8) for backup purposes of /, /usr a= nd /var. I do this so it is easy to restore(8) to a functioning system, and k= eep the size of the dumps reasonably small, although /usr is getting prtty big. Maybe next time I will split off /usr/local (for ports) into a separate filesystem. For big filesystems dump(8) takes a long time and needs a lot of space. I prefer to back those up with rsync(1). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6PPsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWEfwCfWzvknTmBDj+0AAZ8xxtRHdlC HP4AoKerWmn49j8ymHkHFutsGVtN2OzO =nEHJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:35:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33694106568B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C058FC19 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTHZp5d027804; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:35:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E79F7BA7A; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:35:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:35:50 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091229173550.GB33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:35:57 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:26:42PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Why not just point your preferred mail client at the imap server? > > That way you can access your mail from anywhere (probably via > > webmail too) Some imap clients, such as thunderbird and kmail, will > > let you store your server passworks encrypted to a master-password, so > > even root can't read them. The IMAP server is probably more reliable > > too. >=20 > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > server? Without fetchmail? Here you go: http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/ Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6PfYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXZrQCZATx+JBabxBJYxAUXTBjOOSoa WJEAoJYCH7IbUxE/n2a+EY5c6ozZioDk =F2B9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:37:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEE9106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E5DE8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60455 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2009 17:37:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C36XSYx9t+2IqcEEeOIrzsyX1yM5Q8zS/gM8xWFoEgdA3yW2N3FoJvpwEMdLdFN+ovjfnPagY2cG+P8B7+uL0gw4ked4xv2IVCjZF4GUmjTjQfabYaBz2V5r5Xrfzq08R6ku+VRV/ylAmgzXqUUPzjdfbcatK2B73MK5keDKUt4= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2009 09:37:18 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: dpAoFdcVM1kwcQ8S3n4_W5_Ur9Nzd2GEWSfvE4veMmmeSez2KjnTrUxBcZDQdR75Bzf5fNeftRXq7PUmt0I10qAKJCAf_QXjgtEj7unzenL9..9Bq3ZOXErDRFkpIvN6TtKA9nf1N7rbrtyYKY25X3R3wlEJec8DzGkArhHK5Cw.UyqHM.RV.kQMeRWX94nNuQ6OAT5cLimESoXPd8Pi5JapjWeBiIT5SGRLQtYOHmfFyv8xX_1hd23RK0l.5QVbcWJ5bCAcHf.tNWmQUQCt1k8t8E8Dh0vhgms7T8ON5N5zrmOclhzHihqq_OxrQlzcybZ.ExFckhgYE5c3jtfn6aKku55b.tdRYhWwvIXm8SrMK4OcC85RaZU.N7afPmneaHPn.60un0zJSukoog-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E431D22855 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:37:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:37:17 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229123717.34c2f7d9@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:37:24 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:24 +0000 RW articulated: >BTW personally I use getmail instead of fetchmail, I've not used >fetchmail much, but I've read a lot of bad things about it - some of >which are mentioned here: > >http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why That "article" is grossly out of date. Furthermore, D. J. Bernstein created an MTA that was a back-scatters dream. Then, he abandoned it. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com _ ___ _.--. # Jerry \`.|\..----...-'` `-._.-'_.-'` # gesbbb@yahoo.com / ' ` , __.--' # )/' _/ \ `-_, / # "Just saying "no" prevents teenage `-'" `"\_ ,_.-;_.-\_ ', fsc/as # pregnancy the way "Have a nice day" _.-'_./ {_.' ; / # cures chronic depression." {_.-``-' {_/ # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 17:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED79E10656A5 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A169D8FCB6 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBTHZqlf009996; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:35:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBTHZqRB009995; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:35:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:35:52 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229173552.GB9656@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:40:33 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] > > > >What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > ># ln -s /usr/home /home > > > >ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > >the root partition. > > > >So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > > >How I'd slice up the disk: > > > >2GB for / > >2GB for swap > >2GB for /var > >34GB for /usr > > > > Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to > have /var and /usr filesystems separate?? No, it doesn't. In fact, technically you can put everything all in / (root), except for swap and you can even create a file in / for that in root if you have the bad judgement to do it that way. It is just a good idea to separate them if those filesystems are likely to grow a lot, such as when installing ports (/usr in /usr/ports and /usr/local) and when building a database (/var in /var/db) or something that spools a lot (/var in /var/spool). It provides a small amount of additional protection for the system. > > I guess it must be similar to the way Solaris handles things when UFS > based (not ZFS)..... > > The /home partition then is very similar to Solaris in that /export/home > is considered the user directory. Means BSD stores /home in /usr/home?? You can put it where you like. Just do your own links or make your own mounts in /etc/fstab. > >Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really > >fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space > >to build. > > > > OpenOffice or IIRC is for GUI based usage and not CLI. Since this will > be a simple server no GUI or work will be done on the machine itself in > terms of keyboard/mouse setup. Normally I work through SSH so will be > much easier once I have network connectivity up and running after > initial install :-) So, use 'vi' or install 'vim' from ports and us it. Since 'vi' is always available, it becomes important to learn it and then it is second nature to use it. (actually, vi is not available in single user mode if you do not have /usr mounted, but I usually just put a copy in /bin and then it is always available) ////jerry > > > > > >Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks > >as soon as you first boot up. > > > >Regards, > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > --Kaya > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 18:04:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041D8106566B for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhert@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF198FC23 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so2914003eyf.9 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7VMnF8h0sA/1Wm3yBwSWvUkB2nWGGYWaxXtGWS+kZOg=; b=lcbrha/MEHjb/o80wAxao4enrQZwr9AsRwhUgPh9JW89kFJUQM2VZb3MgGHA+jQeGd kYbCPSpizxwvD/8MAzEUQvAbFnWDMs2nr/cqk5g/2gE6E7BSbkqo4d1jcrzmSYmcOvJF cA1VQJ6JgSk18tBSXvPi4bJ+fgfO00Gxcb82w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kwCOJ5x1t0MNMk3f/twDjAqUi3Y6Pn9/VMVNnm9mw96Y5YVIJWrHdkqWiZ6iS4W1v2 /zUzamG15XPcWi1WrammNsozLq7xp2Eb6kk2vFO375OLW8qJcfKRvbnxlS/ZtyIdhv8G x+z3XzCCd4LH2siKAuL6mOTgi9FAX5tBiGcGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.141 with SMTP id e13mr362917wef.166.1262109864206; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:04:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:04:24 +0100 Message-ID: <8021a2660912291004h2590b06atdb54ba14d5e31d5@mail.gmail.com> From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Starting sshd, ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:04:32 -0000 On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get past "Starting sshd.". I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is 192.168.75.8 # ssh root@192.168.75.8 or # ssh root@127.0.0.1 take both 15 seconds to display Password: ... At setup, I did specify a hostname, a domainname, a default_router (192.168.75.14) and DNS server 192.168.254.100 (in the future to be replace by non-private IPs), but since I am testing only in a private network and only with IP adresses (no hostnames) these are not used. So what is causing that delay at Start of sshd and use of ssh? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 18:53:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0461106568D for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816F18FC0A for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 07B8928422; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:53:43 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:53:43 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: n dhert Message-ID: <20091229185343.GC35428@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <8021a2660912291004h2590b06atdb54ba14d5e31d5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8021a2660912291004h2590b06atdb54ba14d5e31d5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting sshd, ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:53:46 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:04:24PM +0100, n dhert wrote: > On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get > past "Starting sshd.". > I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is 192.168.75.8 > # ssh root@192.168.75.8 > or # ssh root@127.0.0.1 > take both 15 seconds to display > Password: ... > At setup, I did specify a hostname, a domainname, a default_router > (192.168.75.14) and > DNS server 192.168.254.100 (in the future to be replace by non-private IPs), > > but since I am testing only in a private network and only with IP adresses > (no hostnames) > these are not used. > So what is causing that delay at Start of sshd and use of ssh? Reverse DNS lookup. Make sure you have PTR entries for all IPs in use. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" - Douglas Hofstadter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 19:06:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7E81065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74178FC14 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBTJ6FUn001863 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:06:15 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id n.be4.6af48bac (43995) for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd06.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD064-abdb4b3a5321116; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:06:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:06:09 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:06:27 -0000 Many thanks again for all suggestions! :-) [...] > > For my desktop, with around 450 ports installed, I have the following lay-out; > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 484M 93M 353M 21% / > /dev/ad4s1g.eli 373G 168G 175G 49% /home > /dev/ad4s1e 48G 198K 45G 0% /tmp > /dev/ad4s1f 19G 5.8G 12G 32% /usr > /dev/ad4s1d 1.9G 226M 1.6G 12% /var > > [...] Hmm....... lot's of different pieces of advice rolling in now! I guess what I will do as I have a small hard disk for what I want to do which is to get rid of my music and few movies which are stored on my laptop currently, is create separate /, /tmp, /usr and /var. I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested: / ~500M /tmp ~2GB /var ~2GB /usr ~2GB /home the rest but then Jerry has already suggested: partition mount point Size a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) d /tmp 512 MBytes e /usr 4096 MBytes f /var 4096 MBytes g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source! The reason why I preferred to use package manager was that on say Solaris it's pretty a much a pain having to install all the dependencies from Sun Freeware site. I mean what I will be installing if completely base install with just OS and nothing more like I mentioned before is Samba, NFS server/client, NTP, Nano as the quote below from Jerry using vi or vim is not my preferred text editor as I find them extremely difficult and a real pain to use. In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-( This means that I will need to download the minimal install CD and install the packages from there! For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded and installed my best guess is from source. Meaning I will need extra space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets stored?? My best guess would be /usr? Have setup the machine now and am almost at the point of attempted an install! :-) Guys the support has been really awsome and I highly appreciate everyones efforts to assist me! [quote] So, use 'vi' or install 'vim' from ports and us it. Since 'vi' is always available, it becomes important to learn it and then it is second nature to use it. (actually, vi is not available in single user mode if you do not have /usr mounted, but I usually just put a copy in /bin and then it is always available) [/quote] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 19:32:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01C4106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D07E8FC1C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67312 invoked by uid 89); 29 Dec 2009 19:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 29 Dec 2009 19:31:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4B3A5953.1090707@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:32:35 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <8021a2660912291004h2590b06atdb54ba14d5e31d5@mail.gmail.com> <20091229185343.GC35428@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20091229185343.GC35428@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, n dhert Subject: Re: Starting sshd, ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:32:38 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:04:24PM +0100, n dhert wrote: >> On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get >> past "Starting sshd.". >> I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is 192.168.75.8 >> # ssh root@192.168.75.8 >> or # ssh root@127.0.0.1 >> take both 15 seconds to display >> Password: ... >> At setup, I did specify a hostname, a domainname, a default_router >> (192.168.75.14) and >> DNS server 192.168.254.100 (in the future to be replace by non-private IPs), >> >> but since I am testing only in a private network and only with IP adresses >> (no hostnames) >> these are not used. >> So what is causing that delay at Start of sshd and use of ssh? > > Reverse DNS lookup. Make sure you have PTR entries for all IPs in use. Or, in the case of an internal-only IP scheme, where configuring rDNS entries is not possible/not feasible, you can disable DNS lookups in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file by uncommenting and setting: UseDNS no Restart the sshd daemon for the change to take effect. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 19:34:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF58106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhert@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364748FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so2932452eyf.9 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9or4cQ3+fvA4EHuyQT0+oaji6VqnipOOlul2tRAfpJo=; b=QsdC0EyB1oL0dkKXU5S7IlL8Ul1lDcdFUaQUwEH61j6z/xhWw4eawINUQWwt1dWEm6 8+/Kxs18nlfyQb/QHCAGxpToN9eZv+0v52usAwAJKuRRrYYWbl0uKqw3byXjszKbeHKE l2Q8oq88nmldRHeX9d3/xlDNO8LZxzIrOnnNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KqDnfsEdxImoX/CixVvaLEgWOSY1xuEyB7CBoGClIuydtz97hIVqMchxBlC6nYDqgM NUzZuQMTP6EEXprkURLQIyl9o1fhc9rDddj9kb/JRaQAietUdfJNzXXOD9fzZqkL0lfv rrREivJ00rMhX35b/ZlrCH/1l87LwZhlkJtME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.208 with SMTP id e58mr5767007wef.57.1262115248614; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: <8021a2660912291134j2b935a09g4f215744feabeebf@mail.gmail.com> From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gutenprint / cups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:34:26 -0000 There have been updates to cups and gutenprint. I now have # pkg_info | grep guten gutenprint-base-5.2.4 GutenPrint Printer Driver gutenprint-cups-5.2.4 GutenPrint Printer Driver But an # lpstat -t shows for my printers: Unable to start filter "rastertogutenprint.5.1" - No such file or directory. Maybe I need to do a restart or stop/start of the printer queues ? In the older cups In the webpages of http://localhost:631 There was a button to do a restart of a printer queue, but I don't see such a button in the new layout of the webpages... Can I use a command line command to do a restart or stop/start of a printer queue, or how to solve this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 19:39:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF43106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D82C8FC0C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3274E28423; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:39:55 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:39:55 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: n dhert Message-ID: <20091229193955.GA36396@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <8021a2660912291004h2590b06atdb54ba14d5e31d5@mail.gmail.com> <20091229185343.GC35428@osiris.chen.org.nz> <8021a2660912291119j2b77b2e3i13316fb3c3c1a2b7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8021a2660912291119j2b77b2e3i13316fb3c3c1a2b7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting sshd, ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:39:57 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:19:03PM +0100, n dhert wrote: > There is an entry in /etc/hosts for the hostname and hostnam.domainname for > its IP > So far this is the only IP used (besides 127.0.0.1). /etc/resolv.conf > containts the domainname > and a nameserver line (nameserver 192.168.254.100) > What else would be needed? I suspect your problem is that 192.168.75.8 doesn't resolve to a hostname. You could possibly put that into /etc/hosts, or put a PTR entry for it in your DNS. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:04:24PM +0100, n dhert wrote: > > > On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get > > > past "Starting sshd.". > > > I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is > > 192.168.75.8 > > > # ssh root@192.168.75.8 > > > or # ssh root@127.0.0.1 > > > take both 15 seconds to display > > > Password: ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 20:10:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6655106568F for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338AD8FC16 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so11062409fxm.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u4bKkxh9r9FyBQuIHP+pbvXfqrBXOCbpkOTg4n0e/kA=; b=Z8Qwx2eun7UcM/Fqpghit+35VQ5i1EWtMQuRHPPdZl5THQFaDyLAGhW/wnyjWlBL2d 7Vhb+KQs4gfOvRbXyU8n+jrDE6L6mClJzFf9YiUqhrCHTnEa6oegk5lq8Hxv9FAfqQE+ jKdE8Z4UHujEP8WHH/1chjE3552StU5L8wPuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ph4YQoPsugU8lxtfZXKZ76hJ5sbTn+7jkiMJjNQyfYs2P8riXVqp2SVYnU601JX3EH EfrH1PrzQZJRqIpM6LmBK50dOXeGnELj4L6YvkTz+SXGRz9K0BFZiGmAmniNGsJO1CZv 8FdF2l8/53Nfq7c8ETWdYVAaB8g7Clp09pTjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.160.7 with SMTP id a7mr557660hbd.98.1262117409612; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:10:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3b93bd110912281249w30351fb3q792963a51ed2a309@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b93bd110912281249w30351fb3q792963a51ed2a309@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:10:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: "Diego F. Arias R." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: gianrico.lamura@lamia.infm.it, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the system does not boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:10:15 -0000 2009/12/28 Diego F. Arias R. > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > > I have installed BSD 7.2 release. All the installation worked fine till > the > > first re-boot of the system. > > > > The reboot gos fine until the end where it breaks: > > > > "Warning: /usr was not properly dismounted. > > Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted > > ERROR: ABORTING BOOT (sendingSIGTERM to parent)! > > Dec 28 19:43:06 init /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to > > single user mode > > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" > > > > when I press "return" > > > > it displaysthe prompt > > #_ > > > > the command xstart freezes and I have no desktop and to shut down I have > to > > press Ctrl Alt canc > > > > the machine is : > > > > Philips freevents X59, intel core 2 duo, 1G ram, 100 G hard disk. > > > > I have chose the partioning suggested from the installation. > > > > > > What should I do??? > > > > > > thnk you in advance for your help > > > > Gianrico Lamura > > > > I > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Try runing fsck -y /usr, is nothing wrong just a dirty Filesystem. > > -- > mmm, interesante..... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > or foobared fstab From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 21:53:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78481065697 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-8.bnguk.net (atmail-8.bnguk.net [80.74.253.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663748FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-8.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPk0T-00025t-DR; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:35 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 144244AC20; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:33 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20091229215333.GA39411@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Jerry McAllister , Kaya Saman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20091229172548.GA9656@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229172548.GA9656@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kaya Saman Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:53:38 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:25:48PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:27:11PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice!!!! :-) > > > It is really appreciated! > > > ... > > > > > > I reckon the proposed disk usage spec from the FreeBSD hand book should > > > suffice though shouldn't it?? > > > > IMO the root slice is too small in the handbook. You should make it > > 2GB, since you've got the space. > > First of all, you are mixing up your terminology. > You do not mean 'slice' here. > The unit used for root or any other filesystem in > a non-"dangerously-dedicated" disk is called a partition. > Partitions divisions of slices and are identified > as a..h with c reserved for the system and by > convention (and expectation of some pieces of software) 'a' > is for the bootable OS partition (root) and 'b' is used for swap. You're correct. I thought they used a separate slice for the root partition. They don't. I usually do. > > In FreeBSD, partitions reside inside of slices. A slice is > essentially the same thing as a DOS primary partition and is the > initial (primary) division of a disk. A disk drive may have up > to four slices identified as 1..4 and each may be made bootable > or not and contain different OSen or OS versions. If a disk is > only to be used for a single installation of FreeBSD, it is most > common to define just one slice which encompasses the whole drive, > leaving the other three slices empty and unused. (It is also > common to define a 'dangerously dedicated' disk, but that is > a different discussion issue than that being addressed here) > > In FreeBSD, slices are defined and created by the FreeBSD fdisk > program, though a number of other partition management utilities > can be used and FreeBSD seems to be moving to a new one too. > > In FreeBSD, one uses bsdlabel(8) to create partitions within a > slice. Each slice can have up to 8 identified as a..h, but the 'c' > partition is reserved and must be left unused. > > We use common names associated with partitions, such as / (root) > /usr, /var, /home, etc. Those are essentially directories that > are 'linked' to a partition by the mount system. You create > a mount point using the mkdir(1) command and then link using mount(8). > > The 'a' partition becomes root because it gets mounted to the / mount point. > > Now, on to divvying up the disk. > I agree that the root partition listed in the handbook is anciently > too small. But, I don't see what you need 2GB for unless you put > everything (/usr, /var, etc) in it. Since you are defining those > separately, root really only needs about a half GigaByte. I am > running a little low on one machine with 1/3 GB in root, but still going. > I also create a partition for /tmp to keep it isolated from the > other filesystems, in case something runs wild. I'm struggling with a 1GB / here: /dev/ad0s2a 984524 657068 248696 73% / That's having removed /boot/kernel.old/ after running out of space during upgrading to 8.0 I can't see anything else I can delete. /home and /var are not on that slice. So I think it depends on how you upgrade your machine. E.g less room needed if you use freebsd-update (?) > > > > > > > With a larger HD I would normally do something like 15 - 25GB / (root) > > > partition and the rest for /home with round 1.5 - 3GB for swap. > > > > > > Now my HD is round 40GB so I will do a minimal install and try to > > > maximize the /home slice! As result only services I will run are DNS, > > > NTP, SAMBA and NFS. > > > > What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > > # ln -s /usr/home /home > > > > ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > > the root partition. > > > > So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. > > > > How I'd slice up the disk: > > > > 2GB for / > > 2GB for swap > > 2GB for /var > > 34GB for /usr > > > > > > > I suppose I could get away with something like 2GB for / which would > > > then contain /tmp, /etc, /root, /boot etc..... > > My suggestion is more like: > > partition mount point Size > a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) > b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) > d /tmp 512 MBytes > e /usr 4096 MBytes > f /var 4096 MBytes > g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) > > If you are running a database, you will want /var to be larger or > to move things in to that /home file system. > > I actually use a different mount point name than /home because /home > is assumed for other things in some howto-s hanging around. > > I also move and symlink > /usr/local > /usr/ports > /usr/src > and sometimes /var/spool > in to that '/home' filesystem and then make the actual /usr and /var > only half the above sizes and increase the space in '/home' (33 GB) so > they can grow there more easily. > > Things in a well running system do not grow so much in /tmp and > if something does go wild and spew out a lot of stuff, you really > want to notice it before it gobbles up 30GB of space, so you > need enough /tmp to run easily, but do not want huge amounts. > Thus, putting /tmp in its own limited partition is a bit of a protection. > > All users' login (home) directories and web content go in that '/home' > filesystem too, where they can grow without having to redo disk later. > > In spite of the name that seems to suggest it, I never put users' home > directories in /usr. It may have begun that way back in the earliest > of days, but /usr has become part of the OS rather than the place for > users to work so I don't want users's monkey business to foul up /usr. > Nothing wrong with your scheme, Jerry. Any slicing/partitioning scheme has it's pros and cons though and it all depends on usage but I'd still make / larger. What's a couple of gigs worth nowadays even on a relatively small disk? > ////jerry Regards, > > > > > Should be OK but /tmp symlinked to /usr/tmp as some things can really > > fill up /tmp. For example, IIRC OpenOffice needs gigs of temp space > > to build. > > > > > > > > Only 2 machines will be connected, my uncles Win XP box and my > > > Linux/Solaris system. > > > > Should work fine. Just remember to make your /home and /tmp symlinks > > as soon as you first boot up. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > > > Frank > > -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:31:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8341065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9968FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTMVX9k025477; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F271ABA9D; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:35 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:06:09PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > lot's of different pieces of advice rolling in now! >=20 > I guess what I will do as I have a small hard disk for what I want to do= =20 > which is to get rid of my music and few movies which are stored on my=20 > laptop currently, is create separate /, /tmp, /usr and /var. If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for backups! =20 > I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested: >=20 > / ~500M > /tmp ~2GB > /var ~2GB > /usr ~2GB > /home the rest I would make /usr greater. See below. > but then Jerry has already suggested: >=20 > partition mount point Size=20 > a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) > b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) > d /tmp 512 MBytes > e /usr 4096 MBytes > f /var 4096 MBytes > g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) >=20 >=20 > This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as=20 > everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source! I'd make /usr bigger. 5-10 GiB, if you can spare it. > The reason why I preferred to use package manager was that on say=20 > Solaris it's pretty a much a pain having to install all the dependencies= =20 > from Sun Freeware site. Realize that not all software is available as packages because of e.g. licensing restrictions. And some ports you can customize via so-called "options". If you install from packages, you're stuck with the (default) options used when building the packages. The FreeBSD ports system is _so_ convenient. It's one of the great features= of FreeBSD, as is the user community. > I mean what I will be installing if completely base install with just OS= =20 > and nothing more like I mentioned before is Samba, NFS server/client,=20 > NTP, Nano as the quote below from Jerry using vi or vim is not my=20 > preferred text editor as I find them extremely difficult and a real pain= =20 > to use. The ee(1) editor is part of the base system. This is a _lot_ friendlier tha= n vi! Give it a try, you might not even need nano. > In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although= =20 > I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the= =20 > drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-( Good enough for installing. :-) =20 > For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded= =20 > and installed my best guess is from source. Installing from source is the most flexible method. How is your internet connection? > Meaning I will need extra=20 > space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets=20 > stored?? My best guess would be /usr? In /usr/ports to be exact. The source code tarballs are also stored there, under /usr/ports/distfiles. On my system, /usr/ports/distfiles is now 799 MiB (450 ports, remember!). The rest of /usr/ports is 543 MiB. Realize that ports will be compiled under /usr/ports as well! Good luck! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6g0QACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWLSACdFdnj5QlHkggBU7WGi8iOvz02 mngAn2XzbZXzw2WhGVaaW1xRbzUoMBB0 =S3tV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:35:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A94106566C for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691C38FC25 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTMZQ2E018646; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:35:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E9EC0BA9D; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:35:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:35:25 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: n dhert Message-ID: <20091229223525.GB59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <8021a2660912291134j2b935a09g4f215744feabeebf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XF85m9dhOBO43t/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8021a2660912291134j2b935a09g4f215744feabeebf@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gutenprint / cups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:35:27 -0000 --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:34:08PM +0100, n dhert wrote: > There have been updates to cups and gutenprint. > I now have # pkg_info | grep guten > gutenprint-base-5.2.4 GutenPrint Printer Driver > gutenprint-cups-5.2.4 GutenPrint Printer Driver >=20 > But an # lpstat -t > shows for my printers: > Unable to start filter "rastertogutenprint.5.1" - No such file or > directory. > Maybe I need to do a restart or stop/start of the printer queues ? Have you restarted the whole CUPS system after the upgrade? Try runnind '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd restart' as root. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6hC0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVotQCgjb7cXpTRhw/XjK0j/io4w/Ol yRIAn2eqh3bhb2YUuGjczzgUETuJFS5T =ajft -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:46:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ECD1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0C68FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBTMkKDe016025; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:20 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id d.c41.7135aee8 (44230); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd08.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD088-acc64b3a86b124d; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3A86B0.8050607@netscape.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:46:08 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:48 -0000 Roland: > > If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those > external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for > backups! > Can't afford :-( I have many disks like that where I bought really cool enclosures and the drives separately but currently am in a really bad situation financially. In UK in my parents house I have round 3.2TB or so with 1.7TB dedicated to music and movies. Out here though I only have my 320GB drive on my laptop which has 9 OS's on it including VM's. 160GB for Linux which I have Fedora 10 and Kubuntu on the other side I run OpenSolaris and Belenix in different ZFS pools. Laptop is cool 6GB memory too :-) ~# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x34f7742e Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 19453 156256191 bf Solaris /dev/sda2 19454 23709 34186320 83 Linux /dev/sda3 * 23710 25534 14659312+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 25535 38913 107466817+ 5 Extended /dev/sda5 25535 38665 105474726 83 Linux /dev/sda6 38666 38913 1992028+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris ~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 33G 11G 21G 34% / tmpfs 2.9G 4.0K 2.9G 1% /lib/init/rw varrun 2.9G 240K 2.9G 1% /var/run varlock 2.9G 4.0K 2.9G 1% /var/lock udev 2.9G 180K 2.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 2.9G 708K 2.9G 1% /dev/shm lrm 2.9G 2.5M 2.9G 1% /lib/modules/2.6.28-17-generic/volatile /dev/sda5 100G 93G 1.2G 99% /home /dev/sda3 14G 9.6G 3.6G 74% /mnt/tmp > > >> I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested: >> >> / ~500M >> /tmp ~2GB >> /var ~2GB >> /usr ~2GB >> /home the rest >> > > I would make /usr greater. See below. > > >> but then Jerry has already suggested: >> >> partition mount point Size >> a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) >> b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) >> d /tmp 512 MBytes >> e /usr 4096 MBytes >> f /var 4096 MBytes >> g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) >> >> >> This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as >> everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source! >> > > I'd make /usr bigger. 5-10 GiB, if you can spare it. > Err I will try 4GB because I need to dump round 10-15GB here clogging up my disks. In fact I just partitioned the drive using FreeBSIE and I think it's only a 30GB on this desktop which I can always look into getting a new one in time. But slightly stuck for now! > > > Realize that not all software is available as packages because of > e.g. licensing restrictions. And some ports you can customize via so-called > "options". If you install from packages, you're stuck with the (default) > options used when building the packages. > > The FreeBSD ports system is _so_ convenient. It's one of the great features of > FreeBSD, as is the user community. > I just the packages I mentioned before that's it! If I can do that it will be really cool..... > > > The ee(1) editor is part of the base system. This is a _lot_ friendlier than vi! > Give it a try, you might not even need nano. > I will try it out thanks for that! :-) > >> In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although >> I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the >> drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-( >> > > Good enough for installing. :-) > > >> For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded >> and installed my best guess is from source. >> > > Installing from source is the most flexible method. How is your internet > connection? > Hahahah the biggest joke of 2k9 is my internet as it's 512kbps :-( That's what happens when you move country to a developing one things slow down to a halt. In UK I had 20Mbps aaaah I really miss it! > >> Meaning I will need extra >> space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets >> stored?? My best guess would be /usr? >> > > In /usr/ports to be exact. The source code tarballs are also stored there, > under /usr/ports/distfiles. On my system, /usr/ports/distfiles is now 799 > MiB (450 ports, remember!). The rest of /usr/ports is 543 MiB. Realize that > ports will be compiled under /usr/ports as well! > Ah ok I will look at this once my install progresses, I just hope that 4GB is enough for this! I really need to maximize space for /home where all my stuff will be deposited to for the moment as I don't trust the drive either as it really grinds like crazy but then it might be MS Win doing that? > Good luck! > > Roland > Many thanks I will need all the luck I can get! So need to get a nice job and get myself a disk array from Sun or so linked to a proper 19" rack server. Not in my uncles house though :-P Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:55:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C851065697 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@bert-jan.com) Received: from aeryn.bugbyte.nl (aeryn.bugbyte.nl [81.23.226.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2E48FC2D for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19719 invoked by uid 1011); 29 Dec 2009 23:29:00 +0100 Received: from 213.10.95.32 by aeryn.bugbyte.nl (envelope-from , uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.95.2/10103. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.029511 secs); 29 Dec 2009 22:29:00 -0000 X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl-Mail-From: info@bert-jan.com via aeryn.bugbyte.nl X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.029511 secs Process 19712) Received: from ipd50a5f20.speed.planet.nl (HELO ?192.168.2.5?) (postmaster@bert-jan.com@213.10.95.32) by aeryn.bugbyte.nl with SMTP; 29 Dec 2009 23:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3A82B0.7010409@bert-jan.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:29:04 +0100 From: Bert-Jan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HP NC373i unsupported..? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:55:49 -0000 Hi folks, I just got a HP Proliant DL380 G5 and I've installed FreeBSD 8.0 on it. The nic won't come up however. dmesg shows: bce0: mem 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 bce0: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller revision (B0)! device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 bce1: mem 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci5 bce1: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller revision (B0)! device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 pciconf -lv: bce0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (BCM5708)' class = network subclass = ethernet bce1@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (BCM5708)' class = network subclass = ethernet Is there a way to fix this ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 23:37:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFD21065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F25918FC12 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Dec 2009 23:37:36 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 30 Dec 2009 00:37:36 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ypnISn+nygm4pAjPRYK2SdbiiZ3LkIurRmCNW81 bOLCMl0Waq0Fr2 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:37:33 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Subject: Midnight Commander - Where is the subshell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:37:38 -0000 Hi Daemons, I have just installed the brandnew mc 4.7 - now there is still an old little annoyance: Being root I can switch away the mc-commander and use the shell, CTRL+o does the trick. But as a normal user CTRL+o blanks the screen, no shell prompt appears and hitting a key just shows mc again. The subshell support must be working, all is fine if I am root. What is wrong there, anyone knows the trick using the subshell as a normal user?? Thanks! herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 00:09:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEAD10656B2 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64C38FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU09lLS024993 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:09:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:09:47 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091230000944.GA24962@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: how do i fix this undef'd reference? trying to build audacity on tao X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:09:51 -0000 Folks, I'm missing *something* in the shared memory arena, because trying to build audacity fails on my desktop as follows: -lsndfile -lFLAC++ -lFLAC -lid3tag -lexpat -L/usr/local/lib -ltwolame -L/usr/local/lib -ltag -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -ljack -lm -lpthread /usr/local/lib/libjack.so: undefined reference to `shmctl@FBSD_1.1' gmake[1]: *** [../audacity] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel/work/audacity-src-1.3.10/src' gmake: *** [audacity] Error 2 *** Error code 1 I am trying to build audacity to tune an audio file. Given that I know almost nothing about audio, i figued audacity might serve better than sox. tia, gary PS: I ran into much the same undefined reference to 'shmctl' on ethic while doing a portupgrade. Might here on both platforms. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 00:50:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9BA106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46B618FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76119 invoked by uid 89); 30 Dec 2009 00:49:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 30 Dec 2009 00:49:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:50:21 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:50:10 -0000 Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm ...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn. After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error stating: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm srm: Command not found. I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I appended a new alias underneath: alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm alias sll ls -lA ...which works fine when called after re-login. I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths, to no avail. Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 00:55:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DAB1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4598FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5203A388B; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:55:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1262134544; x= 1263948944; bh=00gPymnAQ5LBNuk+cD/o3OYa4Gx/ESYmFRWyzlC6rDc=; b=P QAnxUZRPhPQfxrgPzVPi3kf1TTC0Dhlmu5TIv+z0T+FIft5APrLvBPbJrrUj8HGf YJJ+BTWQguFblse1SGrQnAh5hdvEAzpySMkwQtNLx8VBtHX25z8DBlpr2cR8OKia iYB9AvW9n5ubXwmjbX5Lv/t7TcfuMQ3+rytEXh7RV4= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id e6gURMb7Dn-z; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:55:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6DB53A3885; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:55:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBU0tXc1025497; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:55:33 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:55:33 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912300055.nBU0tXc1025497@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: steve@ibctech.ca In-reply-to: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> (message from Steve Bertrand on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:50:21 -0500) References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:55:46 -0000 Hi, > Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command > works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. I would think so. What about: alias srm /usr/bin/find . -name "*~" -delete Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 00:56:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508481065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEBC8FC2F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so11197265fxm.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:56:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UJUscsowPG9MZaZM4+Qa6i9Q31MdUQRUC9e/F/TLKLs=; b=WyX+NNXjvbq9c+UDn/Pvh2OvoJSbWdeRW4urtLfH5mqBZOtTrMoQbJEiYx+ZHrqzGW C8lAvFA/5C8chyU85iE2sNuwGdk/iPddy6f3mBVJf70pwL5OrgbP5lUe3gFHHD2Bx+eq j9dPNJgGOIVPKAI7q7nAxZuvLq5OBxb3TzuEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WnTh4FnUfqmDIuTVf8hajh2nX3j3Nu/mB6FHaNKfBbOV33ZrmJ4LbqMrS0ZGnlKraa AqZV82xG2TvcWyuLDU1mOdaa/br1urk6S+SDL2+rsudzGPTY8YjxrL5mFg6bGRUWKYv7 nP3eNZyMoocuRKU0ddEL5HNwgnoEaPqyQfUZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr24065355faa.61.1262134590075; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:56:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:56:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912291656n24acc27dn5f80ce78fb22825c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:56:42 -0000 Hi Steve On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, happy holidays! > > I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: > > alias srm =A0 find . -name "*~" | xargs rm > Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: alias srm "find . -name \"*~\" | xargs rm" Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 01:07:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09381065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7790C8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76617 invoked by uid 89); 30 Dec 2009 01:06:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 30 Dec 2009 01:06:34 -0000 Message-ID: <4B3AA7D7.6090505@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:07:35 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310912291656n24acc27dn5f80ce78fb22825c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912291656n24acc27dn5f80ce78fb22825c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:07:28 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > Hi Steve > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> Hi all, happy holidays! >> >> I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: >> >> alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm >> > > Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: > > alias srm "find . -name \"*~\" | xargs rm" This works. Instead of escaping, I just encapsulated within single-quotes: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % grep srm /home/steve/.cshrc alias srm '/usr/bin/find . -name "*~" | /usr/bin/xargs rm' Olivier: I didn't test your theory, but thanks for the tip. I've just become accustomed over the years to use xargs when making bulk rm's ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 01:57:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7278C106568F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D3EC8FC1D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n76.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2009 01:44:37 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.89] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2009 01:44:36 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.153] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2009 01:44:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2009 01:44:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 781098.81737.bm@omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15176 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 2009 01:44:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262137476; bh=Lp5LkPhINrJblM5hh9GLzrJ3Dwp5hhEW2oDDs0Wiyfg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FMTgdyxDmrveXaNKMsRrdjRZyeKyg5MnBqXePqr3q/bPYqWETMYkeeOGMVPy31QnI7Jdq3zEvqZqyVhEkNiDQIxKAazeouSQY4/QznNdvd2ogZJFP5NluCBizRiFGNfZa+MdCJLYzktqn/QqBY4jvmWAY/seJuN8U672MvV0UkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zBo8LEZ5moSGLDz5+t1F0obDku7PtrA4pBgNduVk+xEAfBUd6KO6/QLmUMK3CSchMg0LE4I85WPUf/CjzeKVkSSWvOpFJDmXYth/mXyjmELyXLT7Lop21O/AlO+fPEtuiLjGAflYZqWRO7sXGRfzw5OYUNORN3cwJex2gM3lsdg=; Message-ID: <679079.14827.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LADsrkkVM1mUTFzLvLwxXyaYuEz64dN.gsJFEeTTHNXbsyY8I7Rg7yuc9BADWq6ZCD5WQUtSyULd1vI7pfpCBdo0X5J6Kv8wR3td14pfYXaF8RBUxEMyQvYzK0LZSA.5hX1Hy7C84KqmGm3Wnt2bfyM1Q3FPpBQk3ganhOM_yqjo2YnEPE4uR1E6wIll0wI9Z3PKVJpsxMm9zWx2Qcnp.puZPCb_HxBUAn3ILGwntgqA0uZBeF71uF6aE0mA0dXG3A9ZQ.ZemSBCIW30k6onbbcOAC4u4BpIrdXSQYXOwGKRUmzpeXugocUCI7Q44GsOhvFqBZL9x07u4QCSrl_uOQruixj8AKt74w-- Received: from [174.18.64.50] by web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:44:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:44:36 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091229171038.GJ98917@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: mplayer / bash question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:57:36 -0000 =0A=0A--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Dan Nelson wrote:=0A= =0A> From: Dan Nelson =0A> Subject: Re: mplayer / = bash question=0A> To: "Neil Short" =0A> Cc: freebsd-ques= tions@freebsd.org=0A> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 10:10 AM=0A> In the= last episode (Dec 29), Neil=0A> Short said:=0A> > I'm trying to batch-rip = audio files from a bunch of=0A> video files.=0A> > =0A> > I have a director= y full of *.vob files:=0A> > =0A> > ls *.vob=0A> > 01.vob=A0 03.vob=A0 05.v= ob=A0 07.vob=A0=0A> 09.vob=A0 11.vob=A0 13.vob=0A> > 02.vob=A0 04.vob=A0 06= ..vob=A0 08.vob=A0=0A> 10.vob=A0 12.vob=0A> > =0A> > So I wrote a little com= mand line script to rip wave=0A> files from all the=0A> > vob's:=0A> > =0A>= > > ls *.vob |=0A> > > while read f=0A> > > do=0A> > > mplayer -ao pcm:fil= e=3D`basename $f .vob`.wav $f=0A> > > done=0A> > =0A> > the first 01.wav fi= le is created successfully; but=0A> then the whole sh'bang=0A> > exits with= out ripping the rest of the vob's:=0A> =0A> Try this instead:=0A> =0A> for = f in *.vob ; do=0A> mplayer -ao pcm:file=3D${f%.vob}.wav $f=0A> done=0A> = =0A> Uses the shell's native file globbing to expand the *.vob=0A> wildcard= , and the=0A> shell's native string processing functions to remove a=0A> su= ffix.=A0 If that=0A> still doesn't work, run the script with "sh -x" to tur= n=0A> debugging on, and=0A> see what your variables are expanding to as the= script=0A> runs.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> =A0=A0=A0 Dan Nelson=0A> =A0=A0=A0 dnels= on@allantgroup.com=0A> =0A=0AThanks! It actually works. I need to get me a = good book on the shell. The man pages are ... .=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 02:48:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C6A1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidf100@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952A58FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so4961050qyk.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:48:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qbf5M0UL+hrF0CCFjAxXoN9EB/YQbXOP5q+ap6XhNYE=; b=WsNCjbgQohmOe1J6gayidY7Mi86JC6hwsZTDDhxZVpuuSi+o6QhWlnR8u8m6ETipOm Ejff9/aikd53AxJyHkq4WxayHqXJo+89IAbhb7wb1J5yq57UsBohg7ers6fpRxKE/4FS ZWYZEi7MuolFlnnxGPrrwNikBq+RhPq1K7S5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=emGyj9WqsXMbNlmxBWTgcdXp0ySHzzkW5OqDQG2zKknCe2SVv+dWjhg7KW+Iocx9xY KHv/VfrCq170e9niwQU/+SqRmdXl2MQcSJRJ0p8MqgUAFxMG0MNOiP3S9yIhRH1oiFMf gpJtf5e5gsmmRlpDa7BcqfXHSVkLL5noawsA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.1.200 with SMTP id 8mr7374267qcg.64.1262139749444; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:22:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> References: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:22:29 +0000 Message-ID: <59847b700912291822l62093a4fqf154c8f22f42f527@mail.gmail.com> From: "Dave M." To: herbert langhans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Midnight Commander - Where is the subshell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:48:46 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Daemons, > I have just installed the brandnew mc 4.7 - now there is still an old little annoyance: > > Being root I can switch away the mc-commander and use the shell, CTRL+o does the trick. > > But as a normal user CTRL+o blanks the screen, no shell prompt appears and hitting a key just shows mc again. > > The subshell support must be working, all is fine if I am root. > What is wrong there, anyone knows the trick using the subshell as a normal user?? > > Thanks! > herb langhans > > -- > sprachtraining langhans > herbert langhans, warschau > http://www.langhans.com.pl > herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net > +0048 603 341 441 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello, Check your directory permissions on ~home/.mc -- Yes, Gmail is great! My local time is PDT or UTC/GMT Offset -7 hours. davidf100@gmail.com or dave4431@verizon.net end. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 03:48:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0AF1065693 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C028FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBU3meKU037893; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU3meCc083243; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBU3mect083242; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:48:40 -0800 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230034840.GA82978@marvin.optimis.net> References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:48:41 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:50:21PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: > > alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm No need for xargs: alias srm "find . -name '*~' -exec rm {} +" or alias srm "find . -name '*~' -delete" > ...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn. > > After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error > stating: Use the builtin(1) 'source' command. No need to log out/log in. > acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm > srm: Command not found. I'm sure someone more knowledgable about csh (I rely on bash) can help you debug what exactly happens and why, but quoting your alias command in .cshrc is all that's required. > I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I > appended a new alias underneath: Easier to check your aliases by typing 'alias', no? > alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm > alias sll ls -lA > > ...which works fine when called after re-login. > > I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths, > to no avail. > > Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command > works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. Again, quoting what's being aliased will suffice. Why that's not necessary during interactive use, I don't know, but I'd get into the habit of quoting such things regardless. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 03:51:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AED1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AA08FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PFSH1d0061Y3wxoAFFrc9G; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:51:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PFrb1d00D46zqiB8bFrbrL; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:51:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:51:34 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:51:35 -0000 While attempting to install Linux-realplayer on an 8.0 box I get this error message: pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 100% of 374 kB 133 kBps ===> Extracting for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 => MD5 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/10/pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/10/pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm. ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - found ===> Patching for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 ===> Configuring for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 ===> Installing for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcairo.s ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libexpat.so.1 ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontcon ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libpng.so. ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libXrandr. ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango already installed cd /usr/tmp/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango/work && /usr/bin/find * -typ cd /usr/tmp/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango/work && /usr/bin/find * ! -t 1748 blocks *** Signal 8 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. root@ /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer: Can someone give me a heads up on this one, please. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 04:46:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A702C1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C18B8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU4k6Oa022407 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:06 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200912300446.nBU4k6G7022406@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: questions about superpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:46:11 -0000 I poked around in the stuff in /sys/i386/vm looking for the threshholds of process memory size for promotion to 4 MB pages and for demotion back to 4 KB pages, but didn't see them. Can someone tell me what those threshholds are? I'm assuming there must be a larger threshhold for promotion than for demotion on the basis that hysteresis is necessary to keep the VM system continual oscillation of processes with memory requirements close to the promotion thresshold. If someone who knows can also point me toward the place that these values appear in the source code, I'd appreciate that, too. Thanks in advance! Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 05:30:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19B1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DC18FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU5TtIP022768 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:29:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:29:55 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200912300529.nBU5TtoK022767@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions about superpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:30:00 -0000 A short while ago, I wrote: > I poked around in the stuff in /sys/i386/vm looking for the threshholds That should have said, "/sys/vm", not what I wrote. Sorry for any confusion. >of process memory size for promotion to 4 MB pages and for demotion back to >4 KB pages, but didn't see them. Can someone tell me what those threshholds >are? I'm assuming there must be a larger threshhold for promotion than for >demotion on the basis that hysteresis is necessary to keep the VM system >continual oscillation of processes with memory requirements close to the >promotion thresshold. If someone who knows can also point me toward the >place that these values appear in the source code, I'd appreciate that, too. > Thanks in advance! Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 06:02:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63D1065698 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.terrell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E1C8FC24 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so8061572pzk.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:02:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=FCPxRuvGMgcz3eHXrdLPvpxkOFi90ufvXSBVSl2Ac1c=; b=HQaUG1vESnW86a8qcZrknbjAcMnu/RTGBPhsgQ2oeHMG/2ECxQiShZMblEy0D3Aerv pIPXtLiR+2ApTJGasIiOvl6E1l9cOjfcykaXHCNmXe1qeQr67v+dLPPK3FCpN0eUhoEl IIHqk8Yyh3I9co/SytIeB7lLnxpyETTCDSfLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=lBzS+2+ypQcZzDpP+JLTUryjl+sXzoAwEUruJpZuXktX7hsRfIEjmBC63R8vtiX9Q4 zdhGWNRyhw9h5TToDj8W6wDxFSocD95Lmk5c270FKA/CZrejuLuapUM9qHMmG3TRFJqR X7azPlHPdGnKomZ2SG74nZyS4940/Bdk8jD54= Received: by 10.141.106.18 with SMTP id i18mr12481736rvm.191.1262151600825; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from snack-pro.internal.coolpeople.us (pool-173-64-139-59.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net [173.64.139.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm13257090pzk.7.2009.12.29.21.40.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) From: John Terrell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:39:59 -0800 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: After installing a ZFS only build, machine won't complete POST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:02:53 -0000 Has anyone seen this? I've just installed a ZFS only build following = the instructions at (http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot). = After rebooting after the install, the POST won't complete (it appears = to be looking at the disks for something). If I unplug the drives and = reboot, POST completes. If I then destroy the GPT partitions and = install MBR, I can now get past POST (but with a corrupted installation = that won't boot). =20 Some info: Motherboard: MSI Neo2 Disks: 2x 500GB Seagates (I created a mirrored pool during = installation). Could this just be a crappy BIOS issue? I'd hate to have to scrap = GPT/ZFS and go back to MBR/UFS. Any ideas? Thanks. -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 06:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98A410656B4 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EC28FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nBU6PZvM061479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU6PZ2H007714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBU6PZeR007713; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:35 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: John Terrell Message-ID: <20091230062534.GK98917@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:35 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: After installing a ZFS only build, machine won't complete POST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:25:36 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 29), John Terrell said: > Has anyone seen this? I've just installed a ZFS only build following the > instructions at (http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot). After > rebooting after the install, the POST won't complete (it appears to be > looking at the disks for something). If I unplug the drives and reboot, > POST completes. If I then destroy the GPT partitions and install MBR, I > can now get past POST (but with a corrupted installation that won't boot). > > Some info: > Motherboard: MSI Neo2 > Disks: 2x 500GB Seagates (I created a mirrored pool during installation). > > Could this just be a crappy BIOS issue? Possibly. Unless your BIOS is very new it's unlikely to support GPT. > I'd hate to have to scrap GPT/ZFS and go back to MBR/UFS. ZFS works just fine inside an MBR partition, as long as your disks fit the 2TB limit (yours do). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 07:17:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53DA1065696 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivermahmoudi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFE58FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so11304236fxm.3 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:17:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=CFGNEd3qfOjE8r5qpdQcli+V9m0orbh/CgewCStMuSE=; b=irtqwigIn5cmyAnc5FhTNILJYCZFC/rEtiNuSaz0zlT3UedjqlFRJzAvPm0SRTkxs9 PqkK2u2qUGjJVdGJ6uuctLeP9vgK+uTaxh0Fof1fdZDemO1rU8Y0TrnQdP+O3cuy6MX4 ZelUVJoop0+EIvGMauTg/FWA4urDEjmdzgrSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=thgltQ3mjHtqoXtJl+RXRT8Io08nGN7l7mA8g5tPygrZkvifAEiDtyCw13H8CD/BsT IwBLrg35kfoC4rkg+YUnVH9R+ffRw8leTaOFj/7tsyWM90+Fhyd1kMwjTVycZw/8nj3c lLr26Thls7oQ9phODXTnMUsPZ86wYX6VxGCDU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.167.66 with SMTP id f2mr77080hbe.143.1262157472517; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:17:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:17:52 +0100 Message-ID: <6b4b2d2c0912292317h7c4d9bbfo196dcf48396e0afa@mail.gmail.com> From: Oliver Mahmoudi To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how does the C pre-processor interface with make? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:17:58 -0000 Hey folks, I was wondering how the C pre-processor interfaces with make. Let's suppose that I have a little C program, something along the lines of: #include int main() { #ifdef FOO fprintf(stdout, "Hi, my name is foo.\n"); #endif #ifdef BAR fprintf(stdout, "Hi, my name is bar.\n"); #endif fprintf(stdout, "I am always here.\n"); return(1-1); } It is easy to control the pre-processor in the above code by defining the respective terms or leaving them out, however, I am trying to control the conditionals from out of a makefile. This is essentially the way in which the kernel sources are compiled. Any suggestions? Thanks Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 08:17:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E68106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D578FC1A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:17:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13397208 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:17:06 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBU8H63K088364 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:17:06 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBU8Gpgf088360 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:16:51 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:16:51 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230081651.GA88089@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:17:03 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > server? Without fetchmail? Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky things with it like mutt -f imaps://you@yourserver.edu/~otheruser/somefolder/somemailbox or even mutt -f imaps://you@yourserver.edu/~otheruser@somevirtualdomain.com/foo/bar/mbox Of course if IMAP ACLs permit you. I have never seen another IMAP client who could use such IMAP URIs. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 08:21:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43849106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 799CA8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Dec 2009 08:21:52 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 30 Dec 2009 09:21:52 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/mGLIA/0nm3GepO1E7z0aRJVjBIwKE+WBjcKcuMA MF2yH8Ww5XeRNO Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:21:47 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: "Dave M." Message-ID: <20091230082147.GA55156@sandcat> References: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> <59847b700912291822l62093a4fqf154c8f22f42f527@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59847b700912291822l62093a4fqf154c8f22f42f527@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Midnight Commander - Where is the subshell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:21:48 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:22:29AM +0000, Dave M. wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM, herbert langhans > wrote: > > Hi Daemons, > > I have just installed the brandnew mc 4.7 - now there is still an old little annoyance: > > > > Being root I can switch away the mc-commander and use the shell, CTRL+o does the trick. > > > > But as a normal user CTRL+o blanks the screen, no shell prompt appears and hitting a key just shows mc again. > > > > The subshell support must be working, all is fine if I am root. > > What is wrong there, anyone knows the trick using the subshell as a normal user?? > > > > Thanks! > > herb langhans > > > > -- > > sprachtraining langhans > > herbert langhans, warschau > > http://www.langhans.com.pl > > herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net > > +0048 603 341 441 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hello, > Check your directory permissions on ~home/.mc I tried 777 on ~/.mc - still the same problem. How about other listers Midnight Commander? Is it the same on your computers? Maybe I will write to the port maintainerabout it, for the case it is a common bug. Cheers herb langhans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 09:27:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4724A1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diminished5@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB558FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so8010921iwn.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hV8fYQ4DKXrScI9dfKS7CtqAjIoZFenf/1KdlHKQZrI=; b=wS83i7JD28oA530kiypsqiT7oFS6LpXR3aXLzt+dGPmG4uRYm2zyT6ogko9Pb27dcs GIcQShNILvcLPCcqDldsLm1P+mRRlHXCaZnHMh9xy6uBgXWmYHRmTjwBvwa1aCkgowUE AV6pAmuQ0ZPrC8uezOQvFISFE3dlpl4Sf5uN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bB/BqRokyTcvRvSTQl5SfcdQaHhfHma52yqlK7+LbzevunpUVSZsNuQmZiwlFytM8M 8PxVp9+pKxT4F2h74rFxIQrl2VvN6Rv0vRu+nJ8QklqT0WlIaIFf8xtEXvzqBjMNAWyM VNvfO1nFIb4mqKu4BNMs14BXI9ExKc+AmD41A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.83 with SMTP id o19mr1714159ibv.39.1262165250745; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:27:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:27:30 -0800 Message-ID: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Agraviador To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: I need help on installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:40 -0000 I found an old pc that I just reformatted the HDD using G parted, now that I try to boot from a Free BSD CD (7.2 release) the Intel chip gives me an error message that the system boot failed and asks me to insert a system disk which I do not have, how do I go about that because I virtually cannot install any operating system. Do I have to install a boot loader like GRUB2? If so How do I go about that? Since I have found no iso image of GRUB2 to burn into a live cd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 09:33:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D76F106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F9E8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBU9Wttg085900; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:32:56 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBU9Wttg085900 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1262165576; bh=y1oWyx7k3zfq4MuOzj/gvbwE28QrBNLuW4x2+xZ9B/Y=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B3B1E41.4010104@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2030=20Dec=202009=2009:32:49=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Oliver=20Mahmoudi=20|CC :=20"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20how=20does=20the=20C=20pre-processor=20interf ace=20with=20make?|References:=20<6b4b2d2c0912292317h7c4d9bbfo196d cf48396e0afa@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<6b4b2d2c0912292317h7c 4d9bbfo196dcf48396e0afa@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95 .6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D =0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3 D"------------enigC23A6DBAF5F7C2611DC5979A"; b=Sr1BlWMHRu2JUDYlN1yM7x3tEi87kbw6xs7l5Pn8VcsOeTXO4SqVmQrgG0sSajOWl jHiK/nlWAM4a0B798J5I/ECzelsFGycGpe2+S/wASKt9ycgx6aciB+YokMIReXVVoJ jWj4f4Ih3PS+woGhAEoIgJgUZmiYAJ1ow8oKELYc= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B3B1E41.4010104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:32:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Mahmoudi References: <6b4b2d2c0912292317h7c4d9bbfo196dcf48396e0afa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6b4b2d2c0912292317h7c4d9bbfo196dcf48396e0afa@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC23A6DBAF5F7C2611DC5979A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: how does the C pre-processor interface with make? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:33:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC23A6DBAF5F7C2611DC5979A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oliver Mahmoudi wrote: > Hey folks, >=20 > I was wondering how the C pre-processor interfaces with make. Let's sup= pose > that I have a little C program, something along the lines of: >=20 > #include >=20 > int > main() > { > #ifdef FOO > fprintf(stdout, "Hi, my name is foo.\n"); > #endif >=20 > #ifdef BAR > fprintf(stdout, "Hi, my name is bar.\n"); > #endif >=20 > fprintf(stdout, "I am always here.\n"); >=20 > return(1-1); > } >=20 > It is easy to control the pre-processor in the above code by defining t= he > respective terms or leaving them out, however, > I am trying to control the conditionals from out of a makefile. >=20 > This is essentially the way in which the kernel sources are compiled. >=20 > Any suggestions? Yes. You have to define your FOO and BAR variables on the cc(1) command line using the -D flag, based on the equivalent settings in make. Suppos= ing your little program is held in a file wibble.c, then in your Makefile you= 'ld need something like this to compile and link it into a program called wib= ble: =2Eif defined(FOO) CFLAGS+=3D -DFOO =2Eendif =2Eif defined(BAR) CFLAGS+=3D -DBAR =2Eendif wibble: wibble.c ${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${LDFLAGS} ${.ALLSRC} -o ${.TARGET} Then you'ld invoke make(1) as: % make -DFOO -DBAR wibble or define FOO and BAR in the shell environment, which make(1) should pick= up. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC23A6DBAF5F7C2611DC5979A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks7HkcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxEGQCdFTuhkHJlkEM91SmWsSW3ZHcd 9mgAn2W2aiD1tmbOzJooj8C4v2vyZ5/5 =7JiM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC23A6DBAF5F7C2611DC5979A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 10:05:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15654106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A688FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nBUA5V6F010582; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:05:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4B3B25EB.6050607@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:05:31 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: herbert langhans References: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> <59847b700912291822l62093a4fqf154c8f22f42f527@mail.gmail.com> <20091230082147.GA55156@sandcat> In-Reply-To: <20091230082147.GA55156@sandcat> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Dave M." , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Midnight Commander - Where is the subshell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:05:36 -0000 herbert langhans said the following on 2009-12-30 09:21: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:22:29AM +0000, Dave M. wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM, herbert langhans >> wrote: >>> Hi Daemons, >>> I have just installed the brandnew mc 4.7 - now there is still an old little annoyance: >>> >>> Being root I can switch away the mc-commander and use the shell, CTRL+o does the trick. >>> >>> But as a normal user CTRL+o blanks the screen, no shell prompt appears and hitting a key just shows mc again. >>> >>> The subshell support must be working, all is fine if I am root. >>> What is wrong there, anyone knows the trick using the subshell as a normal user?? >>> >> Hello, >> Check your directory permissions on ~home/.mc > > I tried 777 on ~/.mc - still the same problem. > > How about other listers Midnight Commander? Is it the same on your computers? > Maybe I will write to the port maintainerabout it, > for the case it is a common bug. I have no problems with mc subshell. You can move ~/.mc to some other name and start over. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 10:12:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A3106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D85B8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPvXt-0005cs-GR; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:52 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPvXs-0000eB-E0; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:48 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUACmvq074960; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:48 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBUACmQB074959; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:48 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:48 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230101248.GA74666@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091230081651.GA88089@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230081651.GA88089@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:12:53 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:16:51PM +0600, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > > server? Without fetchmail? > > Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky > things with it like > > mutt -f imaps://you@yourserver.edu/~otheruser/somefolder/somemailbox wow! that's so easy, why didn't I find this before.. thanks a lot for this hint! Is it possible to run it as a daemon, so that I don't have to enter password each time? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 10:25:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B01065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@bert-jan.com) Received: from aeryn.bugbyte.nl (aeryn.bugbyte.nl [81.23.226.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7988FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10092 invoked by uid 1011); 30 Dec 2009 11:25:28 +0100 Received: from 213.10.95.32 by aeryn.bugbyte.nl (envelope-from , uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.95.2/10103. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.032629 secs); 30 Dec 2009 10:25:28 -0000 X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl-Mail-From: info@bert-jan.com via aeryn.bugbyte.nl X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.032629 secs Process 10086) Received: from ipd50a5f20.speed.planet.nl (HELO ?192.168.2.5?) (postmaster@bert-jan.com@213.10.95.32) by aeryn.bugbyte.nl with SMTP; 30 Dec 2009 11:25:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3B2A98.6080002@bert-jan.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:25:28 +0100 From: Bert-Jan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3A82B0.7010409@bert-jan.com> In-Reply-To: <4B3A82B0.7010409@bert-jan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HP NC373i unsupported..? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:25:33 -0000 Replying to my own question.. I found the B0 version of this adapter is intentionally disabled in the driver. I've commented out the case that catches the 5708_B0 and I'm recompiling the kernel. As this server has run for years without problems I'm hoping the nic will work just fine. Maybe it's disabled because someone else had problems with it that I'm about to run into.. Will keep you posted... Bert-Jan wrote: > Hi folks, > > I just got a HP Proliant DL380 G5 and I've installed FreeBSD 8.0 on it. > The nic won't come up however. > > dmesg shows: > > bce0: mem > 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 > bce0: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller > revision (B0)! > device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 > > bce1: mem > 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci5 > bce1: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller > revision (B0)! > device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 > > pciconf -lv: > > bce0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter > (BCM5708)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > bce1@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c chip=0x164c14e4 > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter > (BCM5708)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > > Is there a way to fix this ? > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 10:56:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9916F10656A3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivermahmoudi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC8E8FC29 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so11404392fxm.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:56:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tlNCM0I6v7qCd5Xvi2w10SXASsI9NqG/tWszGiYZLik=; b=UEf7NjCai7zYufV+O/sDbCPVj5jxQrShbRm2PLvOb7Xa5FLSXfpWlAdvK+ufgHINqR sB2bBlKS2sZyV6asNnLiUvSCFR20OvuUnGhcrPJNObS5/URfr2u0qBPwz006X0DyMpyD spZYJ+a52YlRVHe/AHrctfs0VH26TItEyexPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GXts/Q+IdGFCznA0hHlaoWxGpKKz0CQ2Zb3h5U5chOOTmO7riXzDembqypPqJHxTdY gPipxtVHJX3FeXZ2qVP/N1XbEymeJ7LBi+jme3IHtur+BAMfx33J3RvFe4rcrkUVdFDU Ol0mk+asAAbq4aPI7X+j2qx/R0xRgafLO2Tqw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.203 with SMTP id 11mr2027065hbs.84.1262168788888; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:26:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> References: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:26:28 +0100 Message-ID: <6b4b2d2c0912300226k48371f53i57bcc66c1323b4d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Oliver Mahmoudi To: Roger Agraviador Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need help on installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:56:57 -0000 now that I try to boot from a Free BSD CD (7.2 release) the Intel chip gives me an error message that the system boot failed and asks me to insert a system disk which I do not have - are you sure that you have burned the 1st CD as a bootable ISO image? - have you checked the boot sequence in your BIOS and labeled to try your CD drive before your HD? - what type of an Intel chip is it? Do I have to install a boot loader like GRUB2? - actually this shouldn't be necessary since the 1st FBSD CD is bootable Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 11:10:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264801065692 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F768FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:10:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 13398161 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:21 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBUBALg2090241 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:21 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBUBABGT090239 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:11 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:11 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230111011.GA90168@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091228151553.GA7478@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091228173515.GA27630@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229111150.GA15440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <19257.65081.681654.499622@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091229132209.GC27042@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091229134420.GA15874@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091229165324.791c7260@gumby.homeunix.com> <20091229172642.GA17698@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091230081651.GA88089@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20091230101248.GA74666@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230101248.GA74666@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: fetchmail and plain text password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:10:25 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > > > server? Without fetchmail? > > > > Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky > > things with it like > > > > mutt -f imaps://you@yourserver.edu/~otheruser/somefolder/somemailbox > > wow! that's so easy, why didn't I find this before.. > > thanks a lot for this hint! > > Is it possible to run it as a daemon, so that I don't have to > enter password each time? I don't think so. You either have to use Kerberos like I do (mutt supports GSSAPI), or you have to store you password in ~/.mutt/muttrc (see the "imap_pass" directive etc). Yes, in cleartext. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 12:17:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD02A1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C912C8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.209]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:17:18 -0800 Message-ID: <4B3B44BE.4080209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:17:02 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Agraviador References: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2009 12:17:20.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[08E34DE0:01CA894A] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need help on installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:17:20 -0000 Roger Agraviador wrote: > I found an old pc that I just reformatted the HDD using G parted, now that I > try to boot from a Free BSD CD (7.2 release) the Intel chip gives me an > error message that the system boot failed and asks me to insert a system > disk which I do not have, how do I go about that because I virtually cannot > install any operating system. > > Do I have to install a boot loader like GRUB2? If so How do I go about that? > Since I have found no iso image of GRUB2 to burn into a live cd. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > you have to change your bios boot options to boot from cd instead of the hard drive. after the freebsd install is complete then change it back or if your bios allow a boot order change it to first look at cd drive and then hard drive to boot from From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 12:20:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAD0106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7E98FC1D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NPxXl-000Ne2-7s; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:49 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: Ian Smith References: <20091230004339.Y81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:57 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230004339.Y81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> (Ian Smith's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:35:05 +1100 (EST)") Message-ID: <41321270@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fpc on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:20:54 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:35:05 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > Is fpc's IDE usable, like good ol' TP6 and 7, never mind Delphi? Usable. > Docs > seem vast, I'm wondering if there's a simple guide to basic compilation, > but basically I'd just like to hear that it's working ok for someone and > is worth the learning curve? Working OK. For FreeBSD: . it's i386-only (seems that upcomming 2.4.0 may have amd64 bits); . static binaries. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 12:33:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF18106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1826F8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUC3crX004805; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:03:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBUC3ca7004804; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:03:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Roger Agraviador In-Reply-To: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> References: <13a413d60912300127l526feb50q4194f42c40098096@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:03:37 +0100 Message-ID: <1262174617.2241.1.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.29.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need help on installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:16 -0000 Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 01:27 -0800 schrieb Roger Agraviador: > I found an old pc that I just reformatted the HDD using G parted, now > that I > try to boot from a Free BSD CD (7.2 release) the Intel chip gives me > an > error message that the system boot failed and asks me to insert a > system > disk which I do not have, how do I go about that because I virtually > cannot > install any operating system. Did you enable booting from CD in your BIOS? >=20 > Do I have to install a boot loader like GRUB2?=20 No. > If so How do I go about > that? > Since I have found no iso image of GRUB2 to burn into a live cd. Greetings Uli. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 12:33:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29841065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21B88FC1F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPxkE-0007Oo-5B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NPxkD-0001bt-LS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:41 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUCXfna036530 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:41 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBUCXfkk036529 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:41 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:41 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:33:46 -0000 I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have passwd. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 12:59:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C18106568F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DAA8FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBUCu6k2053994; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:56:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nBUCu6hL053993; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:56:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:56:06 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091230125606.GA53838@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:59:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:59:23 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:33:41PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht typed: > I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. > None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have > passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected > logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. > > Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. > > Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have > passwd. toor:*:0:0::0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root: (from master.passwd) As you can see, the password is not empty; it's a '*'. Nothing hashes to *. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 13:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C503B106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8030A8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:51027 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NPyKb-0004Cc-49 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:11:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 23856 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2009 14:11:13 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2009 14:11:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 2175 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Dec 2009 14:11:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:11:13 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091230131112.GA2115@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1NPyKb-0004Cc-49. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1NPyKb-0004Cc-49 892ebdbfa96e4beee86e901616a1e0f0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:11:58 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:33:41PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. > None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have > passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected > logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. > > Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. > > Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have > passwd. toor, like many other system accounts, by default has its password entry set to '*' which indicates that password authenictation is disabled for that account. (See the passwd(5) manpage for details.) This means that unless you set a password for toor you cannot login as toor, so the mere presence of that account is not a security problem. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 13:21:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72FD1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E058FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUDKxB3002075; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:21:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBUDKxB3002075 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1262179266; bh=RGr3DfHwTfF7Q1KgvMxyKcyWtaGjGiIV2iXtmd6DRZs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2030=20Dec=202009=2013:20:53=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Anton=20Shterenlikht=20|CC:= 20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20does=20toor=20hav e=20passwd=20or=20not?=20According=20to=20logins=20-p:=20yes|Refer ences:=20<20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>|I n-Reply-To:=20<20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac. uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed= 3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig952CB56F795633A667 814939"; b=N03wLEihGUHghrWxhFZjSsWj3wi9B12ASjnMItQYe3G22bLXRDS8116oI65CQn/jU 7DonPjFz2FA/IqQy8UFLoGO3GMLKDHNcagoEewzBFt9flRJPm884u4hnwXIoUGRuXM DrA53sxQ20YwncksdCOTpyMAqtxw28wtda2X9v/o= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:20:53 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig952CB56F795633A667814939" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:21:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig952CB56F795633A667814939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. > None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have > passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected > logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. >=20 > Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access.=20 >=20 > Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have > passwd. By default, the account is locked. Look at /etc/master.passwd -- the too= r entry probably looks like this: toor:*:0:0::0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root: That '*' in the second field means there's simply no possibility of login= using a password. In this case, everything is fine. If it's a string of dollar signs and alphanumerics like this: $1$salt$qJH7.N4xYta3aEG/dfqo/0 then the account does have a real password. This is probably OK, if you = want to be able to log in as toor directly. [Before anyone gets excited and tries to break into any of my machines, no that isn't a real crypted pass= word from my master.passwd file. It's created like this: % perl -le 'print crypt("password", "\$1\$salt\$")' ] If there's nothing in the second field, then you have a problem, as that = means the account has a NULL password (ie. just hit return when prompted for a = password -- this is what 'logins -p' detects). That may or may not actually work t= o get into the toor account depending on how you're trying to authenticate and = on various other security settings eg. in /etc/pam.d, but even so it is s= omething that should be fixed pronto. Use vipw(8) to edit master.passwd and insert a * -- vip= w will=20 regenerate /etc/passwd and pwd.db automatically for you. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig952CB56F795633A667814939 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks7U7sACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzpNgCfZpG8bivJ83pzAYryfc0ebBgO FH8An0wB7AIsqnnkS/QPro4jxr0HSk8D =moKT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig952CB56F795633A667814939-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 14:19:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A5106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569608FC1B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 86DF316B51E; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:19:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.80]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C172916B50D; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:19:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:09:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:09:14 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20091230080857.L54092@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:19:57 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. >> None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have >> passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected >> logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. >> >> Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. >> Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have >> passwd. > > If there's nothing in the second field, then you have a problem, as that > means the account has a NULL password (ie. just hit return when prompted > for a password -- I've been wrong before, but I think you do not get a password prompt at all, at least not on login. You enter the login: name and you are off to motd and a command prompt. > this is what 'logins -p' detects). That may or may not > actually work to get into the toor account depending on how you're trying > to authenticate and on various other security settings eg. in /etc/pam.d, > but even so it is something that should be fixed pronto. Use vipw(8) to > edit master.passwd and insert a * -- vipw will regenerate /etc/passwd and > pwd.db automatically for you. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 14:46:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC20106568F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net [196.25.240.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA768FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from belenos.localnet (dsl-244-252-189.telkomadsl.co.za [41.244.252.189]) by rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FC5B38 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:46:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Richard L. Mace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:45:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> Subject: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:46:51 -0000 I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I only get sound if I manually load snd_hda via: # kldload snd_hda i.e., after booting. If I place the following in /boot/loader.conf snd_hda_load="YES" I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and cat /dev/sndstat gives ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Googling, I found this page: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-June/035677.html Which reports precisely the behaviour I am experiencing. No fix or workaround is suggested. Has anyone with similar hardware managed to get this driver working? Any workarounds to my problem? My audio hardware is... $pciconf -lv hdac0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x30c5103c chip=0x284b8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Intel audio controller embedded with the 82801H chipset ( ICH8 chipset ) (82801H)' class = multimedia subclass = HDA And I am using $ uname -a FreeBSD belenos 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Many thanks -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 14:53:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5E7106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C6D8FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so9432891ewy.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:53:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MxsqkEiUNd592+BNtGMOc1HDhtRJclbH0kh3KxrSU30=; b=fvG4+tER1OC/pjU3qPPTQI5Fmj+T0zYalFE8KWbxbzDliJfkPRbfdUuBvCa3nS4JE8 mkaFHXbDNP34PoJo3Oe12pxav/ldqtOPXDq/AnIchkyAhSDY1p1sshIS79EGb/8V1ctE 3MC1zSlqfRRndpS2lhTm24GVEN4v/0l9p9poY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UMvMdYCfwpO9XK91M4CjK5kxCTtkEXi9CZLWVNS8PYePm1PSgtEgWjqsJlC28ynsu9 WY+nKjXyqVjLEBu2MpXifbQqrBhI7JuYkI5jYVT5/yZ3r7w4laVD5BeNXD2WumHv5m2M zaiRM/dbD+lpvQHU+Q5Wcv0JH24ZGLdRpy/pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.100.4 with SMTP id w4mr2635516ebn.25.1262182898489; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:21:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> From: Dimitar Vassilev To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: touch madness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:18 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to find the match for touch -d now-5minutes+30seconds under freebsd. Got a munin plugin that i'd like to change without installing the emulator port. I have touch -A, however when i pass touch -A -00d04m30s i don't get anything as a file. Can someone give the exact syntax if possible. Thanks and all the best. Dimitar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:06:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC6C1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25BE8FC1F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A652F1801AF5A; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBUF6jjP004807; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:45 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Dimitar Vassilev Message-ID: <20091230150645.GA4718@current.Sisis.de> References: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: touch madness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:06:47 -0000 El día Wednesday, December 30, 2009 a las 04:21:38PM +0200, Dimitar Vassilev escribió: > Hi, > I'm trying to find the match for touch -d now-5minutes+30seconds under > freebsd. > Got a munin plugin that i'd like to change without installing the emulator > port. > I have touch -A, however when i pass touch -A -00d04m30s i don't get > anything as a file. > Can someone give the exact syntax if possible. > Thanks and all the best. > Dimitar guru@current:~> touch bla guru@current:~> ls -l bla -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 0 30 dic 16:04 bla guru@current:~> touch -A -000530 bla guru@current:~> ls -l bla -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 0 30 dic 15:59 bla HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:09:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0798106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C7208FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58343 invoked by uid 89); 30 Dec 2009 15:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2009 15:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4B3B6D17.80200@pchotshots.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:09:11 -0500 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitar Vassilev References: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: touch madness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:09:12 -0000 Based on the man page for touch, it doesn't use the d/m/s flags. Your line should be touch -A -000430 filename.here Which would be subtract 0 hours, 4 minutes and 30 seconds from current time of the file. I created test file, checked time of it, subtracted N minutes to make it even to the hour and it worked as described. Dimitar Vassilev wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to find the match for touch -d now-5minutes+30seconds under > freebsd. > Got a munin plugin that i'd like to change without installing the emulator > port. > I have touch -A, however when i pass touch -A -00d04m30s i don't get > anything as a file. > Can someone give the exact syntax if possible. > Thanks and all the best. > Dimitar > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 -> Let us bring out the **Power** of your PCs. <- -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- Visit us for information about our company. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:11:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FF5106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DC58FC1E for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so9451066ewy.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:11:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0DYFjrd5hIWv5bAV4CRU48LhxBQp7ysLeSgnxzQJwn8=; b=eFpb/Rl+Nq8qu0q2R6x1N1+WY6MMdF+wIZv2LTNfydW4m6AzZ549KYE3vNLo1gEhlq RfDjPaQ7G/i2ZupvJblsy1deuwojQdhwUm1wobo+OkZgjhFnoD2E9XcuV1YrMpSHnC0O /Y9JAlolNsXgpiJiE7prhw7bnkNjQz66943Aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=s0zDYLGA2EQFi3rRu3EmCMVXpAQu8JLfULNOPIDiH8U+j4lowCj1WXyluvJ2UJnCh4 zS2vZPEc7X7r7/fyDMXfkSgDGFBczkxKVCrx/zZ3iWs6jDN1PWiFnt/F/iQd9gcjbcJz yG49PwJEoDC09twM0kuG9D7EzBt16/ihxP4Vg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.1.199 with SMTP id 7mr15739829ebg.23.1262185886256; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:11:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B3B6D17.80200@pchotshots.com> References: <59adc1a0912300621r590a8216u77eb2c25b3494905@mail.gmail.com> <4B3B6D17.80200@pchotshots.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:11:26 +0200 Message-ID: <59adc1a0912300711y2f9f1df7k3d4975d44e0fddd9@mail.gmail.com> From: Dimitar Vassilev To: Brad Mettee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: touch madness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:11:34 -0000 2009/12/30 Brad Mettee > Based on the man page for touch, it doesn't use the d/m/s flags. > > Your line should be > > touch -A -000430 filename.here > > Which would be subtract 0 hours, 4 minutes and 30 seconds from current time > of the file. I created test file, checked time of it, subtracted N minutes > to make it even to the hour and it worked as described. > > Dimitar Vassilev wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm trying to find the match for touch -d now-5minutes+30seconds under >> freebsd. >> Got a munin plugin that i'd like to change without installing the emulator >> port. >> I have touch -A, however when i pass touch -A -00d04m30s i don't get >> anything as a file. >> Can someone give the exact syntax if possible. >> Thanks and all the best. >> Dimitar >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > > -- > Brad Mettee > PC HotShots, Inc. > Baltimore, MD > (410) 426-7617 > -> Let us bring out the **Power** of your PCs. <- > -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- > Visit us for information about our company. > thanks to all - tried with inserting measure units hours minutes and so on 1st time. Without them it works From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:12:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F141065676 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D4AF8FC25 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62511 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 2009 15:12:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1262185955; bh=fTHiVRYqlU1sLUxzzcG3BRr7Ub/xHz9L4t6inz3Tnro=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q/Vgs+Pq+TRgihsk1Jnx8+53ZmejBqwRHTXC5knR1Te/oDMs0d24ZYGBdw6bHtqOBWWi/jXPKK1NySEY/+11UVU4XkrdLhcHuVVoLuuuWWYzTAnlDcSiPCQRkYrOJaLQqtrn/bLcVpca5c/rElaPJafkjgKeDa4rMMSqs46Vhms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CxXs3AypDUeS7j1OGhAFfjLpaOjg1SWHcUkmRoyxj9+AjZoEmxawZnzDWIdhvaYuQ6T9ZsQZwUw95Rbz1ytKNZfcrQKDcSTtT5T8BhfsM2sIiqNOdSeYJhNxIdmQjQXSx7G4D62OSswEJ+hSrcdC/jNubwrnUQ+/Dkf8LXyyq+4=; Message-ID: <134214.61244.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YSdOPpkVM1muNmSqeawus8STsZrjwveWA_7i1qtT5AA62L2gPhrnj4BJklX3tzHX.UT1ju7QpVC7Rvp6qF94c7QAi43Gml81MplQURRBxnPkuhqb._KoDV83ZSMO6OiRTpqksSvc4EuNFB__qJaJwyyoodWV_7gLq2cqJnMak26vPhoHC7Pihf37Q1IeaoSpV91URBI_MfKXyp.ruLJgEi4XQq8fQOqzE9RjaIKI_pazbf0gDjxwh8Ia3B2Ig1ckT6hqrBzjpvzj71jJRn3I0IwIm._XxInEeIdYvf6YzvXpec46aIASf1uVuUaBV.pJ4s6ANMFEc.VOgAYq9WevRG3nZbUvI9imMFgDjD3DXAHguWHXSJyXnQuup3o- Received: from [75.41.234.83] by web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:12:35 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:12:35 -0800 (PST) From: Mark To: "Richard L. Mace" In-Reply-To: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: help help Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:12:39 -0000 --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard L. Mace wrote: > From: Richard L. Mace > Subject: snd_hda peculiarities > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:45 AM > I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 > (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most=20 > things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I > only get sound if I=20 > manually load snd_hda via: >=20 > # kldload snd_hda >=20 > i.e., after booting. If I place the following in > /boot/loader.conf >=20 > snd_hda_load=3D"YES" >=20 > I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and > cat /dev/sndstat=20 > gives > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at > cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at > cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------- >=20 > Googling, I found this page:=20 >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-June/035677.html >=20 > Which reports precisely the behaviour I am experiencing. No > fix or workaround=20 > is suggested. >=20 > Has anyone with similar hardware managed to get this driver > working? Any=20 > workarounds to my problem? My audio hardware is... >=20 > $pciconf -lv=20 > > hdac0@pci0:0:27:0:=A0 =A0 =A0 class=3D0x040300 > card=3D0x30c5103c chip=3D0x284b8086=20 > rev=3D0x03 hdr=3D0x00=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > =A0 =A0 vendor=A0 =A0=A0=A0=3D 'Intel > Corporation'=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > =A0 =A0 device=A0 =A0=A0=A0=3D 'Intel audio > controller embedded with the 82801H chipset (=20 > ICH8 chipset ) (82801H)'=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0=20 > =A0 =A0 class=A0 =A0 =A0 =3D multimedia=A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0=A0=A0 > =A0 =A0 subclass=A0=A0=A0=3D HDA=20 >=20 > And I am using > $ uname -a > FreeBSD belenos 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov > 21 15:02:08 UTC=20 > 2009=A0 =A0=A0=A0root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC= =A0 > amd64 >=20 > Many thanks > -Richard >=20 Try adding sound_load=3D"YES" to the loader.conf HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:26:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7EF1065701 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net [196.25.240.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13D78FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from belenos.localnet (dsl-244-252-189.telkomadsl.co.za [41.244.252.189]) by rrba-ip-smtp-4-1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF0217C8; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:26:34 +0100 (CET) From: "Richard L. Mace" To: Mark Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:25:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <134214.61244.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <134214.61244.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912301725.35954.macerl@telkomsa.net> Cc: help help Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:36 -0000 On Wednesday 30 December 2009 17:12:35 Mark wrote: > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard L. Mace wrote: > > From: Richard L. Mace > > Subject: snd_hda peculiarities > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:45 AM > > I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 > > (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most > > things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I > > only get sound if I > > manually load snd_hda via: > > > > # kldload snd_hda > > > > i.e., after booting. If I place the following in > > /boot/loader.conf > > > > snd_hda_load="YES" > > > > I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and > > cat /dev/sndstat > > gives > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Audio Driver > > (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > > Installed devices: > > pcm0: at > > cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld > > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > > pcm1: at > > cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld > > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----------------------------------------------- > > > > Googling, I found this page: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-June/035677.html > > > > Which reports precisely the behaviour I am experiencing. No > > fix or workaround > > is suggested. > > > > Has anyone with similar hardware managed to get this driver > > working? Any > > workarounds to my problem? My audio hardware is... > > > > $pciconf -lv > > > > hdac0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 > > card=0x30c5103c chip=0x284b8086 > > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel > > Corporation' > > > > > > > > device = 'Intel audio > > controller embedded with the 82801H chipset ( > > ICH8 chipset ) (82801H)' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > class = multimedia > > > > > > > > > > > > subclass = HDA > > > > And I am using > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD belenos 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov > > 21 15:02:08 UTC > > 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > amd64 > > > > Many thanks > > -Richard > > Try adding sound_load="YES" to the loader.conf HTH > Thanks, but unfortunately result still the same -- no sound. -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DEA106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1022F8FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:31:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [10.2.64.70] (mail.andersonsinstall.com [67.59.44.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUFUvMf084473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:31:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4B3B722E.3060403@msen.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:30:54 -0500 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard L. Mace" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> In-Reply-To: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=67.59.44.42; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=67.59.44.42; helo=[10.2.64.70] Cc: Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:31:04 -0000 Richard L. Mace wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most > things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I only get sound if I > manually load snd_hda via: > > # kldload snd_hda > > i.e., after booting. If I place the following in /boot/loader.conf > > snd_hda_load="YES" > > I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and cat /dev/sndstat > gives > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Googling, I found this page: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-June/035677.html > > Which reports precisely the behaviour I am experiencing. No fix or workaround > is suggested. > > Has anyone with similar hardware managed to get this driver working? Any > workarounds to my problem? My audio hardware is... > > $pciconf -lv > > hdac0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x30c5103c chip=0x284b8086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Intel audio controller embedded with the 82801H chipset ( > ICH8 chipset ) (82801H)' > class = multimedia > subclass = HDA > > And I am using > $ uname -a > FreeBSD belenos 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:02:08 UTC > 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > Many thanks > -Richard > > I had the same problem. Unfortunately, I am not at home to look at the exact solution but I know it involves setting the sound channel in sysctl.conf I think if you look in some of the relevant man apges, it might give you a hint. something like snd.channel = 1 or something similar. When I get home I will try and post the solution. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:38:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1133B1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66968FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBUFXAjY018411; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:33:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBUFXAOU018410; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:33:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:33:10 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steve Bertrand Message-ID: <20091230153310.GA18368@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:38:04 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:50:21PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, happy holidays! > > I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: > > alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm > Your problem is quoting the command. It has multiple parts with white space, so it all needs to be quoted. Something like: alias srm "find . -name \"*~\" | xargs rm" ////jerry > ...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn. > > After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error > stating: > > acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm > srm: Command not found. > > I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I > appended a new alias underneath: > > alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm > alias sll ls -lA > > ...which works fine when called after re-login. > > I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths, > to no avail. > > Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command > works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 15:39:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A03C10656A9 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D388FC1E for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBUFZ3Zm018432; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:35:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBUFZ3L0018431; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:35:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:35:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steve Bertrand Message-ID: <20091230153503.GB18368@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B3AA3CD.3020709@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310912291656n24acc27dn5f80ce78fb22825c@mail.gmail.com> <4B3AA7D7.6090505@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3AA7D7.6090505@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:39:46 -0000 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:07:35PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > Hi Steve > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Hi all, happy holidays! > >> > >> I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: > >> > >> alias srm find . -name "*~" | xargs rm > >> > > > > Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: > > > > alias srm "find . -name \"*~\" | xargs rm" > > This works. Instead of escaping, I just encapsulated within single-quotes: > > acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % grep srm /home/steve/.cshrc > alias srm '/usr/bin/find . -name "*~" | /usr/bin/xargs rm' That is OK as long as you are not depending on shell expansion effects. ////jerry > > Olivier: > > I didn't test your theory, but thanks for the tip. I've just become > accustomed over the years to use xargs when making bulk rm's ;) > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:03:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD611065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384A28FC25 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PTCk1d0051vN32cADU3TcN; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PU4y1d00246zqiB8iU4z3d; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:04:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:03:23 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:03:26 -0000 On 2009.12.29 19:51:34 +0000, Rem Roberti wrote: > While attempting to install Linux-realplayer on an 8.0 box I get this > error message: > > pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 100% of 374 kB 133 kBps > ===> Extracting for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 > => MD5 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/10/pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm. > => SHA256 Checksum OK for > rpm/i386/fedora/10/pango-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm. > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - > found > ===> Patching for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 > ===> Configuring for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 > ===> Installing for linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcairo.s > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/lib/libexpat.so.1 > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontcon > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libpng.so. > ===> linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libXrandr. > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango already installed > cd /usr/tmp/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango/work && /usr/bin/find > * -typ > cd /usr/tmp/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango/work && /usr/bin/find > * ! -t > 1748 blocks > *** Signal 8 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-pango. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. > root@ /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer: > > Can someone give me a heads up on this one, please. Yes, it pays to read the release notes. I needed to add the "linprocs" line to fstab. Now Linux-realplayer installs. However, when I try and run it I now get this: /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Anyone? Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:08:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C55106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056EC8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NQ16D-0000Gd-Vo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:08:38 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:08:37 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> (Rem Roberti's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:03:23 -0800") Message-ID: <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:08:39 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:03:23 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > While attempting to install Linux-realplayer on an 8.0 box I get this > error message: [resolved] > However, when I try and > run it I now get this: > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared > libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file > or directory Please show results for those commands: ----- % ls -l /compat/linux/lib/libgio* % pkg_info -Ix linux ----- -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:12:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31BD1065676 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-1-1.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-1-1.saix.net [196.25.240.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB448FC27 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from belenos.localnet (dsl-244-252-189.telkomadsl.co.za [41.244.252.189]) by rrba-ip-smtp-1-1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2FF248 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:59 +0200 (SAST) Resent-From: "Richard L. Mace" Resent-To: help help Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:01 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: <200912301811.01199.macerl@telkomsa.net> From: "Richard L. Mace" To: Bernt Hansson Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:09:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <134214.61244.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200912301725.35954.macerl@telkomsa.net> <4B3B7508.6060608@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4B3B7508.6060608@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912301809.54357.macerl@telkomsa.net> Cc: Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:12:01 -0000 On Wednesday 30 December 2009 17:43:04 you wrote: > Richard L. Mace: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2009 17:12:35 Mark wrote: > >>> manually load snd_hda via: > >>> > >>> # kldload snd_hda > >>> > >>> Googling, I found this page: > >>> > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-June/035677.html > >>> > >>> Which reports precisely the behaviour I am experiencing. No > >>> fix or workaround > >>> is suggested. > >>> > >>> Has anyone with similar hardware managed to get this driver > >>> working? Any > >>> workarounds to my problem? > >>> And I am using > >>> $ uname -a > >>> FreeBSD belenos 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov > >>> 21 15:02:08 UTC > >>> 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > >>> amd64 > >>> > >>> Many thanks > >>> -Richard > >> > >> Try adding sound_load="YES" to the loader.conf HTH > > > > Thanks, but unfortunately result still the same -- no sound. > > -Richard > > This works for ME. Put this in rc.local; > > kldload snd_hda > Thanks, Bernt. That seemed like a good workaround, but strangely still did not work. Driver loaded, but still no sound. However, if I start KDE 4.3, open a konsole and do the kldload snd_hda, I get sound. --Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:14:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105461065676 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2DD8FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PTGB1d0040b6N64A9UEQqR; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:14:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PUEP1d00146zqiB8PUEPxG; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:14:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:14:22 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:14:24 -0000 On 2009.12.30 19:08:37 +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:03:23 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > > While attempting to install Linux-realplayer on an 8.0 box I get this > > error message: > [resolved] > > However, when I try and > > run it I now get this: > > > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared > > libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file > > or directory > > Please show results for those commands: > ----- > % ls -l /compat/linux/lib/libgio* root@ ~: ls -l /compat/linux/lib/libgio* ls: /compat/linux/lib/libgio*: No such file or directory > % pkg_info -Ix linux root@ ~: pkg_info -Ix linux linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows (Linux Fe linux-f10-jpeg-6b RPM of the JPEG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-png-1.2.37 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux_base-fc-4_15 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linuxdoc-1.1_1 The Linuxdoc SGML DTD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:18:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003861065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C9C8FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9D01D952; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:18:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBUGIZs5001783; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:18:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:18:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd1 Message-Id: <20091230171835.28ed186a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B395A58.7010801@a1poweruser.com> References: <4B296E66.6030405@a1poweruser.com> <20091217064959.e62bfdbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091217151140.GA40367@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4B38ACF9.2050705@a1poweruser.com> <20091228151416.07a2f22d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B395A58.7010801@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:18:38 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:24:40 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > I have the win98 fdisk english version. I tested this and the fdisk > program displays just the drive letter with out the :. Now on the DOS > command line you do have to use the : to change to different drive, like > in to change to A: drive. Yes, the fdisk program acts that way. Adding ":" after the drive letter (as a capital letter) is a thing you usually see in any documentation, like "this erases you C: drive" or "check floppy in A: and B: to make sure they are present". > The correct word as displayed in the fdisk program is 'logical dos > drives' just the way i have it. Okay, then "Laufwerk" and "drive" are corresponding correctly. Then it's a "logical drive inside an extended DOS partition". I will remember this, thanks for checking! > back in win3.1 days a 20MG hard drive was the largest made at the time. I'm _sure_ it was a 20MB hard disk, maybe just a typo? :-) And for the rewrite: > The Microsoft/Windows fdisk program is used to allocate partitions on > the hard drive. This program allocated two types of partitions “primary > dos partition†and “extended dos partitionâ€. DOS means “disk operating > system†which was the precursor to the Microsoft/Windows desktop GUI > “graphical user interface†first appearing in Win 3.1. You should have DOS in caps always, as in "primary DOS partition". > An alternate method is to allocate an “extended > dos partition†and then sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered > C, D, E, F. And it is possible to have a bootable system without a primary DOS partition? I hardly can imagine that - but don't bet on my opinion, I've NEVER used any "Windows", so I'm honestly just guessing. A typical "multi-drive" setting would contain a primary DOS partition C:, and an extended DOS partition containing the logical drives D:, E: and F: (for your 4-drive example). > The FreeBSD ‘disk label’ program is used to sub-divide the slice into > smaller chunks called partitions. The program's name is "disklabel" or "bsdlabel" respectively. > This hard drive 512-byte MBR is where all the limitations are. Due to > its size the MBR partition table is limited to 4 entries. This means no > matter how large your hard drive is (20MG or 200GB) you can only > sub-divide it into a maximum 4 slices/partitions. I'm sure you wanted to say 20MB - megaBytes. :-) > The FreeBSD fdisk program has option to > write a simple boot menu program to the MBR. Its called the "FreeBSD > boot manager". The program "boot0cfg" does this. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:19:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CB7106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DAD8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NQ1GM-0000Nr-3b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:19:06 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:19:05 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> (Rem Roberti's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:14:22 -0800") Message-ID: <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:19:07 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:14:22 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > On 2009.12.30 19:08:37 +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:03:23 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > > > > While attempting to install Linux-realplayer on an 8.0 box I get this > > > error message: > > [resolved] > > > However, when I try and > > > run it I now get this: > > > > > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared > > > libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file > > > or directory > > > > Please show results for those commands: > > ----- > > % ls -l /compat/linux/lib/libgio* > root@ ~: ls -l /compat/linux/lib/libgio* > ls: /compat/linux/lib/libgio*: No such file or directory > > % pkg_info -Ix linux > root@ ~: pkg_info -Ix linux > linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux > Fedora 10) > linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 10) > linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing > library (Linux > linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X > Windows (Linux Fe > linux-f10-jpeg-6b RPM of the JPEG lib (Linux Fedora 10) > linux-f10-png-1.2.37 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10) > linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora > 10) > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) > linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from > RealNetworks > linux_base-fc-4_15 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for > i386/amd64) Please upgrade your linux_base port to linux_base-f10 (it's a default for 8.0 BTW). A small howto you may read at /usr/ports/UPDATING. > linuxdoc-1.1_1 The Linuxdoc SGML DTD -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:23:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F715106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pdegoeje@service2media.com) Received: from s2m-is-001.service2media.com (rev-130-102.virtu.nl [217.114.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD028FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pieter-dev-linux.localnet ([10.0.1.116] RDNS failed) by s2m-is-001.service2media.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:23:28 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje Organization: Service2Media To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:23:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.31-16-generic; KDE/4.3.2; i686; ; ) References: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> In-Reply-To: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912301723.27938.pieter@service2media.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2009 16:23:28.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B7C4520:01CA896C] Cc: "Richard L. Mace" Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:23:32 -0000 On Wednesday 30 December 2009 15:45:50 Richard L. Mace wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most > things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I only get sound if > I manually load snd_hda via: > > # kldload snd_hda > > i.e., after booting. If I place the following in /boot/loader.conf > > snd_hda_load="YES" > > I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and cat /dev/sndstat > gives Try setting hw.snd.default_unit=1 in sysctl.conf. Most likely the order of the devices has changed. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: > 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------- This looks like the output from the working configuration. Note that the first device is the analog output, the second is a digital output. When you load snd_hda using loader.conf, the order is likely different on your machine and the digital output is listed first. hw.snd.default_unit=1 would then direct the sound to the proper (analog) output. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:29:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966EF106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581C18FC1D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DF01DAB7; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:29:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBUGTN09001806; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:29:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:29:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Message-Id: <20091230172923.4965cc90.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091230004339.Y81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091230004339.Y81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fpc on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:29:26 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:35:05 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > Is fpc's IDE usable, like good ol' TP6 and 7, never mind Delphi? Maybe you're interested in xwpe (X window programming environment) which delivers quite a good look & feel of TP7 (DOS). There's xwpe for X, and wpe for text mode. But I haven't used it for many many years, so I can't say something about its current state and development. If I raise my head, I can see the "Borland TurboPascal 7" box and manuals on the shelf above my CRT. The day I got it as a present was the day I didn't code TP anymore, and switched to C as my primary language. I hope nobody will give me a C box as a present. :-) But it's okay, I deserved it, because my TP coding was completely awful - obfuscation in its finest form, completely unintended. :-) init;bk(0);setpicardcolor(x0+x1+xk+ax(rs(r,10,12),qq[x])+q,f[q[ni],kk[i+1]); -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:32:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C01D106568D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8EE8FC21 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so11614421fxm.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:32:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F6W0GwrYnClYo+QzzOEDUOSZ0XpQaW5fIWjfjKY26o4=; b=azx7nF34f3B9sa31xvmCLJZ0sR+YCb1uQYscEX07n/LgFPfEOtceHjTcVaA6uwhoj6 JnEllCcjUZhQqew3fI4h5Ok3gWWiV7N427rj39z/LPLwUwU1b8xYFdelMIlYBNTKMXI9 eEZYOt1+oCtSxf2yEvvSyz3VT3gWiusnMar8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=eOlPY84IgAsNeGnxpIZ2t9x841rwkeuxz4OQNxXIwfORc8NTD59f/2aRxZAG/mSjWO sXNOTdhTltO0oB/qKfWIRLd5i+htvKuOMCrRcTurX2JhSUa23lV5WG7Ji6o1VtnkIROp dQOy7KUvr8+YXyKiML8w2cmrz0uyuJLGpCbkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.14 with SMTP id r14mr457358hbd.40.1262190772730; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:32:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091230062534.GK98917@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091230062534.GK98917@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John Terrell Subject: Re: After installing a ZFS only build, machine won't complete POST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:58 -0000 2009/12/30 Dan Nelson > In the last episode (Dec 29), John Terrell said: > > Has anyone seen this? I've just installed a ZFS only build following the > > instructions at (http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot). After > > rebooting after the install, the POST won't complete (it appears to be > > looking at the disks for something). If I unplug the drives and reboot, > > POST completes. If I then destroy the GPT partitions and install MBR, I > > can now get past POST (but with a corrupted installation that won't > boot). > > > > Some info: > > Motherboard: MSI Neo2 > > Disks: 2x 500GB Seagates (I created a mirrored pool during > installation). > > > > Could this just be a crappy BIOS issue? > > Possibly. Unless your BIOS is very new it's unlikely to support GPT. > > > I'd hate to have to scrap GPT/ZFS and go back to MBR/UFS. > > ZFS works just fine inside an MBR partition, as long as your disks fit the > 2TB limit (yours do). > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I agree sometime its just easier to take the path of less resistance and go for MBR. It wont affect and data drives/pools you have as you would probably add them as raw devices without partitioning From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:36:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C61065697 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387448FC16 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [10.2.64.70] (mail.andersonsinstall.com [67.59.44.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUGaXQV001308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:36:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4B3B818E.3070909@msen.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:36:30 -0500 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> <200912301723.27938.pieter@service2media.com> In-Reply-To: <200912301723.27938.pieter@service2media.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=67.59.44.42; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=67.59.44.42; helo=[10.2.64.70] Cc: "Richard L. Mace" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:35 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2009 15:45:50 Richard L. Mace wrote: > >> I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and most >> things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I only get sound if >> I manually load snd_hda via: >> >> # kldload snd_hda >> >> i.e., after booting. If I place the following in /boot/loader.conf >> >> snd_hda_load="YES" >> >> I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and cat /dev/sndstat >> gives >> > > Try setting hw.snd.default_unit=1 in sysctl.conf. Most likely the order of the > devices has changed. > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: >> 64bit 2009061500/amd64) >> Installed devices: >> pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 >> kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) >> pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 >> kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------------------------------------------- >> > > This looks like the output from the working configuration. Note that the first > device is the analog output, the second is a digital output. When you load > snd_hda using loader.conf, the order is likely different on your machine and > the digital output is listed first. hw.snd.default_unit=1 would then direct the > sound to the proper (analog) output. > > - Pieter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Richard, I am sure that this is what I did to my machine to get snd_hda to work. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:36:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F75A106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212418FC12 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so9539101ewy.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.47.9 with SMTP id l9mr4420198ebf.93.1262189510634; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (fpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust4.croy.static.cable.virginmedia.com [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm9649305ewy.11.2009.12.30.08.11.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:11:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B3B7BC4.8080807@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:11:48 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: geometry does not match label X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:46 -0000 I'm just setting up a software raid mirror using geom; everything seems to be working fine and the mirror is slowly synchronizing. Because of cabling constraints this is a mirror rather than a duplex (I haven't used mirror before) so the gm0 components are ad0/ad1 rather than ad0/ad2. In dmesg I see ...... GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (1/2). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad1. GEOM: mirror/gm0s1: geometry does not match label (16h,63s != 255h,63s). ...... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a ...... anyone know if I should worry about the "geometry does not match label" message? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:40:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836E31065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFA68FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19167 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2009 16:40:46 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Dec 2009 16:40:46 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 87E825086C; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:40:44 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: frank.wissmann41@web.de References: <4B38D2B3.2060005@web.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:40:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B38D2B3.2060005@web.de> ("Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wi=DFmann=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:45:55 +0100") Message-ID: <44637oo1o4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing library building "Amarok" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:40:47 -0000 Frank Wi=DFmann writes: > Hi all! > When building "Amarok" I get the following message: > > Error: shared library "sgutils.1" does not exist > > How can I obtain more information about it and where can I get it? > You need to give more details. In particular, more context around where that error shows up. --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:45:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C3B1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank.wissmann41@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806998FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5745D13AFE047 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:45:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [77.177.34.193] (helo=grissom.einundvierzig.org) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1NQ1fh-0001NL-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:45:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3B83CB.6030803@web.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:46:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091214) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B38D2B3.2060005@web.de> <44637oo1o4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44637oo1o4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/M0Vrk6oFIsbyjuGWq1zoLSRZQoUvhoGImJAGw smWGVBg9WlNo0L3fsWgTf9i/JAEF4oV0aseur++UzWA7tKTIKq 1Nta8Oh1Oee/UbYwb8/A== Subject: Re: Missing library building "Amarok" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank.wissmann41@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:45:18 -0000 Lowell Gilbert schrieb: > Frank Wißmann writes: > >> Hi all! >> When building "Amarok" I get the following message: >> >> Error: shared library "sgutils.1" does not exist >> >> How can I obtain more information about it and where can I get it? >> > > You need to give more details. In particular, more context around where > that error shows up. > Hi! So you mean executing "frank -v" helps? :-) To be serious I solved the problem in the meantime by removing the dependency "libgpod" which I truly don't need. Afterwards "Amarok" built well through and is working fine. Thanks for your thoughts and have a happy new year all! Greetings Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? When pack meets pack in the jungle and no one will move from the trail wait till the leaders have spoken it may be fair words shall prevail (Rudyard Kipling) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:06:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DB31065692 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EC28FC1D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUH5f03026824; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:05:42 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBUH5f03026824 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1262192742; bh=vF6kxss+ej+MAtMMxqrJIeZ8ZZD3u9dWcxrUeYnvC+E=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B3B885F.50808@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed ,=2030=20Dec=202009=2017:05:35=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Lars=20Eighner=20|CC:=2 0Anton=20Shterenlikht=20,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd- questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20does=20toor=20have=20passwd =20or=20not?=20According=20to=20logins=20-p:=20yes|References:=20< 20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>=20<4B3B53B5 .7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<20091230080857.L54092@qroenaqr q.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091230080857.L54092@qroenaq rq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=2 0multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D" application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig 8F1CCE89C86AC71ECAEDD168"; b=wPNdHylnY6aJWRQbLzdhULwS1Htxn2Jcg/gJO5eQfn6+WHkj4sMth3wSWoE9F2dmJ mmkI6euTN6ktR9deY1ydyrjdvVFLWjbYEm/Ca+2R/qRbPWigIVgoOjqaAACc/40jz1 UTS+hkpluQDAxPJHfU1DROCeYfhD102QaZaeDyLs= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B3B885F.50808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:05:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091230080857.L54092@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20091230080857.L54092@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8F1CCE89C86AC71ECAEDD168" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8F1CCE89C86AC71ECAEDD168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lars Eighner wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> If there's nothing in the second field, then you have a problem, as th= at >> means the account has a NULL password (ie. just hit return when promp= ted >> for a password -- > I've been wrong before, but I think you do not get a password prompt at= =20 > all, > at least not on login. You enter the login: name and you are off to mo= td > and a command prompt. It depends on what application you're using to authenticate yourself. Login on the console doesn't ask for a password. sshd(8) does (IIRC). I can't remember what su(1) does. ftpd(8) always asks for a password. xdm(1) and that ilk have fields for username and password in one panel, and generally you just ignore the password field. That's for access to a non-root account: as I said, root or other super-user accounts such as toor may not permit root login at all, or may not permit login without a password. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8F1CCE89C86AC71ECAEDD168 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks7iGUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyMSgCffmK09aQw5pr5BQdIkypAakI7 RL0An0WyYbtKxZ2sHPG3AXnBrGDT/GEm =qeTV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8F1CCE89C86AC71ECAEDD168-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955F710656A3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BA68FC22 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ20M-00047U-TG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:06:38 +0100 Received: from pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.159]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:06:38 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:06:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:05:15 -0500 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <4B3B7BC4.8080807@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4 Sender: news Subject: Re: geometry does not match label X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:42 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > I'm just setting up a software raid mirror using geom; everything seems to > be working fine and the mirror is slowly synchronizing. > > Because of cabling constraints this is a mirror rather than a duplex (I > haven't used mirror before) so the gm0 components are ad0/ad1 rather than > ad0/ad2. In dmesg I see > ...... > GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (1/2). > GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad1. > GEOM: mirror/gm0s1: geometry does not match label (16h,63s != 255h,63s). > ...... > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a > ...... > > anyone know if I should worry about the "geometry does not match label" > message? >From what I understand, no. I've seen this on all my machines at boot up since the recent round of updating. Since the consensus seems to be that it is harmless I've ignored it and have experienced no problem of any kind to date. This is still a "YMMV" thing, but I'd bet you can ignore it too. You should know that the ad0/ad1 will result in a fairly drastic performance hit. This is a master/slave arrangement on the same channel. You really really should get another cable and do the ad0/ad2 arrangement. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:08:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F691065692 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEED8FC18 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PTtP1d0051wfjNsA4V8lLX; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:08:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PVAL1d00C46zqiB8jVALHe; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:08:41 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:08:44 -0000 > > Please upgrade your linux_base port to linux_base-f10 (it's a default > for 8.0 BTW). A small howto you may read at /usr/ports/UPDATING. > I may be making things worse. I wasn't sure how the osrelease should read for sysctl.conf (couldn't find that in UPDATING), so I upgraded to linux_base-fc6 ala the instructions in UPDATING. But I still get the same error message about libgio-2.0.so.0. Is there any reason why Linux-realplayer should not work on FBSD 8.0 with linux_base-fc6 installed? Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:14:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A1C1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933758FC1C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ26j-00071j-NV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:13:13 +0100 Received: from pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.17.159]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:13:13 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:13:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:11:15 -0500 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <4B3B7BC4.8080807@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-17-159.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4 Sender: news Subject: Re: geometry does not match label X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:14:33 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: [snip] > > You should know that the ad0/ad1 will result in a fairly drastic > performance hit. This is a master/slave arrangement on the same channel. > You really really should get another cable and do the ad0/ad2 arrangement. > And, of course, as soon as I hit the "Send" button it occurred to me this really only applies to a PATA drive set and is meaningless if both drives are SATA. Disregard if using SATA! :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:21:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6845D106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7898FC1C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F005B4A25CC1; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:19:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:19:52 -0800 From: Jason To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20091230171951.GC41366@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B3B53B5.7040601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091230080857.L54092@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <4B3B885F.50808@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3B885F.50808@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Lars Eighner , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:21:11 -0000 The handbook has documentation on this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT -jgh On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 05:05:35PM +0000, Matthew Seaman thus spake: >Lars Eighner wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>> If there's nothing in the second field, then you have a problem, as that >>> means the account has a NULL password (ie. just hit return when prompted >>> for a password -- > >> I've been wrong before, but I think you do not get a password prompt at >> all, >> at least not on login. You enter the login: name and you are off to motd >> and a command prompt. > >It depends on what application you're using to authenticate yourself. >Login on the console doesn't ask for a password. sshd(8) does (IIRC). >I can't remember what su(1) does. ftpd(8) always asks for a password. >xdm(1) and that ilk have fields for username and password in one panel, >and generally you just ignore the password field. That's for access to >a non-root account: as I said, root or other super-user accounts such as >toor may not permit root login at all, or may not permit login without a >password. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > >-- >Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 >PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:31:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C5C1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53E68FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NQ2OJ-0001DP-MI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:31:23 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:31:23 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> (Rem Roberti's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:08:41 -0800") Message-ID: <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:31:25 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:08:41 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > Please upgrade your linux_base port to linux_base-f10 (it's a default > > for 8.0 BTW). A small howto you may read at /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > > I may be making things worse. I wasn't sure how the osrelease should > read for sysctl.conf (couldn't find that in UPDATING), so I upgraded to > linux_base-fc6 ala the instructions in UPDATING. But I still get the > same error message about libgio-2.0.so.0. Why did you decide to install linux_base-fc6 but not linux_base-f10? > Is there any reason why > Linux-realplayer should not work on FBSD 8.0 with linux_base-fc6 > installed? 8.0 is well tested with linux_base-f10. It's a default. If you want to play with fc6 then you are at your own... -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:39:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2D3106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A629A8FC1E for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PUAN1d0041ZMdJ4AFVfPXj; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:39:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PVh61d00H46zqiB8cVh6BH; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:41:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:39:21 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0000 On 2009.12.30 20:31:23 +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:08:41 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > > > Please upgrade your linux_base port to linux_base-f10 (it's a default > > > for 8.0 BTW). A small howto you may read at /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > > > > I may be making things worse. I wasn't sure how the osrelease should > > read for sysctl.conf (couldn't find that in UPDATING), so I upgraded to > > linux_base-fc6 ala the instructions in UPDATING. But I still get the > > same error message about libgio-2.0.so.0. > > Why did you decide to install linux_base-fc6 but not linux_base-f10? > > > Is there any reason why > > Linux-realplayer should not work on FBSD 8.0 with linux_base-fc6 > > installed? > > 8.0 is well tested with linux_base-f10. It's a default. If you > want to play with fc6 then you are at your own... > The reason that I did that is because there were explicit instructions in UPDATING for going to fc6, but I could not find instructions for going to f10. As I indicated earlier I have no idea what to include in /etc/sysctl.conf. I know that just deleting fc6 and installing f10 isn't going to be enough. Is there an entry that must be made in /etc/make.conf as there must be in earlier versions of linux_base? These are the things I haven't been able to gleen from UPDATING. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:49:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8490E106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426548FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BB95E056 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:48:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.348, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DRwWAUtevWjA for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:48:57 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC4A5E013 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:48:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:48:56 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:49:00 -0000 I'm at the point where sane-find-scanner detects my scanner but scanimage cannot find it. I know I must use the sane-epkowa backend. I've edited the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf but I think I need to make sane aware of the epkowa backend. The man page for sane-epkowa is not very helpful and there's nothing in the handbook to help me out. Any suggestions? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 17:50:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241511065693 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32698FC23 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NQ2gq-0001Rc-Pc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:50:32 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:50:32 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> (Rem Roberti's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:39:21 -0800") Message-ID: <41326855@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:50:34 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:39:21 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > The reason that I did that is because there were explicit instructions > in UPDATING for going to fc6, but I could not find instructions for > going to f10. As I indicated earlier I have no idea what to include in > /etc/sysctl.conf. Nothing should be written to both /etc/make.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf. All should be OK for 8.0 with just defaults. > I know that just deleting fc6 and installing f10 > isn't going to be enough. Is there an entry that must be made in > /etc/make.conf as there must be in earlier versions of linux_base? > These are the things I haven't been able to gleen from UPDATING. OK, I see. Then remove all linux applications (i.e. skype, acroread, linux-realplayer, etc.) by pkg_delete . Then remove all linux infrastructure ports by pkg_delete 'linux-*'. Unmount all linux filesystems (linsysfs, linprocfs) and delete linux base port by pkg_delete -f linux_base. To be on a safe side clean /compat/linux. Remove any linux remnants from /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/make.conf. Then just install linux-realpalyer (or any other linux application from ports). Mount linux filesystems if needed. Your linux apps should just work. HTH -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 16:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC01D106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E28FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-31.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.31]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0141E89E; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBUG9wGW001748; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:10:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:09:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Message-Id: <20091230170958.f5014fef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091229134453.G81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091228230618.7FB7310656F1@hub.freebsd.org> <20091229134453.G81420@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:54:17 +0000 Cc: McAllister , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 , Jerry Subject: Re: re-write is this booting info correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:10:03 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:29:56 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith = wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 291, Issue 3, Message: 1 > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:57 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: >=20 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed >=20 > First up, you'd be better off using a non-Windows charset here, as they=20 > use weird characters just for ordinary things like quotes, as below. Good and helpful advice. Even apostrophes get messed up. > All of these, at least from DOS 3 (c. '86?) use the same MBR setup, a=20 > maximum of 4 Primary Partitions, one (and only one) of which may be an=20 > Extended DOS Partition, containing as many Logical Drives as you like;=20 > they're formed as a linked list, though I never used past Drive J: with=20 > OS/2 (HPFS). (I'm using caps here to refer to the DOS nomenclature) The number is de-facto limited to 26 maximum for ALL drive letters - keyword is LETTER: A up to Z. A: and B: are reserved for floppy disk drives, C: is the booting partition (usually a primary DOS partition), D: up to Z: can be: - other primary partitions - optical drives - fake drives refering to directories (SUBST command) - external drives (INTERLNK / INTERSVR commands) The order of the drives is somewhat arbitrary, so you can't always predict drive letter behaviour. > In all of these, you can't access more than one Primary Partition from=20 > any DOS-based OS; if you wish to have drives D:, E:, F: (etc) then these= =20 > _must_ be in the single Extended Partition - so your statement above is=20 > not correct in that respect. I'm not sure about this. It's long time ago, so my brain isn't up to date anymore. :-) When I try to remember, I have the idea in mind that it WAS possible to partition a drive with primary partitions (max. 4). I'll check this - and I actually CAN, because I still have a DOS machine (6.22) running well; it's mostly used for programming mobile radios and for disk operations in a museal content (robotron resurrection). :-) > > An alternate method is to allocate an =93extended dos partition=94 and= then=20 > > sub-divide it into logical dos drives lettered C, D, E, F. One of thes= e=20 >=20 > Not limited to F: as above (adding the DOS colon as Polytropon suggests) My suggestion comes from documentation where "C:" is preferred to "C" (in context of drive letters), like "The C: drive is the booting drive", or "On floppy A: you'll find no files". > I'm not sure about NT, but certainly DOS 3 to 7=20 > cannot boot from other than drive C: - though DOS Drive C: need not be=20 > the first physical disk partition, indeed there can be several, though=20 > only the first one marked Active is called C: by DOS on any one boot. DOS doesn't provide a native means for boot selection, so this statement appears to be correct in relation to my memories. > > Microsoft/Windows partition and the FreeBSD slice is where the operati= ng=20 > > system software is installed. Microsoft/Windows operating system creat= es=20 > > default folders that share the space in the partition. The FreeBSD=20 >=20 > It's not clear what you mean here by 'folders that share the space'? It seems to refer to the fact that the functional separation in "Windows" is done through directories ("folders"), instead of partitions. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 18:22:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB71D1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7576D8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so3783811ywh.7 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:22:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=e0ntcR0LL/z1CEbhuVixXiD3Dzg+mScMB03Oah3Dfpg=; b=nS1gQEaScG7pfJAKlcMaSTK0PGmaV8BPNSq2unRjHHj/rd7Uu/lZzzkAgIkmEgpilG yNaVsl9berxEFhFtTJN5mKo2x5fUFJsmQU9DiKNDEY87OcLHaUgBlOuee4D4erJlM4Ic YocFp1lWxphn29WaNQzlvNbo0dC0civxKccCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=KqN27VdXpjJXlHgTFtIspffOOjzHNUS1SShOv/vJi1wdKLafHY/tGrPxGmmC+SESZG 4oPt1+Sn/+acCm5JL8LsgOIuJ5bkpOof0GuFIxm6NdhxM6IqmQFdUHG69vEoavvpPrrX heqTfLDQR7YXh4OdQN16jbUXDRIaZznAlPXG8= Received: by 10.150.111.26 with SMTP id j26mr26713187ybc.268.1262197370338; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.6.250? ([201.21.146.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm5582730yxg.12.2009.12.30.10.22.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:22:49 -0800 (PST) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:22:43 -0200 Message-ID: <1262197363.56204.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mrtg broken dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:22:54 -0000 Hello... mrtg (net-mgmt/mrtg) misses a dependency on perl module===> p5-SNMP_Session in the Makefile: RUN_DEPENDS+= ${SITE_PERL}/SNMP_util.pm: ${PORTSDIR}/net-mgmt/p5-SNMP_Session fix the problem what next??? how to contact the mrtg port manager??? Thanks for your attention, Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 18:50:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679391065692 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1F58FC21 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PWjq1d0091afHeLA4WqNNL; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:50:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PWqF1d00B46zqiB8dWqGZd; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:50:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:50:14 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20091230185014.GC1123@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> <41326855@bb.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41326855@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:50:21 -0000 On 2009.12.30 20:50:32 +0000, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:39:21 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > > The reason that I did that is because there were explicit instructions > > in UPDATING for going to fc6, but I could not find instructions for > > going to f10. As I indicated earlier I have no idea what to include in > > /etc/sysctl.conf. > > Nothing should be written to both /etc/make.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf. > All should be OK for 8.0 with just defaults. > > > I know that just deleting fc6 and installing f10 > > isn't going to be enough. Is there an entry that must be made in > > /etc/make.conf as there must be in earlier versions of linux_base? > > These are the things I haven't been able to gleen from UPDATING. > > OK, I see. Then remove all linux applications (i.e. skype, > acroread, linux-realplayer, etc.) by pkg_delete . > Then remove all linux infrastructure ports by pkg_delete 'linux-*'. > Unmount all linux filesystems (linsysfs, linprocfs) and delete > linux base port by pkg_delete -f linux_base. To be on > a safe side clean /compat/linux. Remove any linux remnants from > /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/make.conf. > > Then just install linux-realpalyer (or any other linux application > from ports). Mount linux filesystems if needed. Your linux apps > should just work. HTH > Ah, Boris...your patience is commendable, especially to this newbie. But before I follow the instructions of your last post I assume that installing f10 is implied, and should precede the installation of any linux apps. Correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 18:58:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB4D1065693 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9896A8FC1F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBUIwkER085350; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:58:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 56BE8BAAD; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:58:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:58:46 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:58:49 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 06:48:56PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I'm at the point where sane-find-scanner detects my scanner but=20 > scanimage cannot find it. >=20 > I know I must use the sane-epkowa backend. >=20 > I've edited the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf but I think I need to= =20 > make sane aware of the epkowa backend. Put a line epkowa in /usr/local/etc/sane.d/dll.conf Put the vendor and device-id you get from sane-find-scanner in epkowa.conf Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks7ouYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXhYQCcCSs1dOL4/LJ2XFNKZfDPVESZ 7GgAn1S0XZuAj2AiQYEGttPCGQFF5A/e =YmNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 19:54:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626EA106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BF98FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBUJsIYK014632; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:54:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:54:18 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:54:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:54:20 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > [xdm slow startup] > >> The answer appears to be to add an empty LISTEN statement to >> /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess. The xdm package issues a IPV6 DHCP request. >> While the xdm man page suggests this is not needed: >> >> To disable listening for XDMCP connections altogther, a line of >> LISTEN with no addresses may be specified, or the previously >> supported method of setting DisplayManager.requestPort to 0 may >> be used. >> >> This seems not to be the case as adding this line gets rid of the long >> delay and suppresses the IPV6 DHCP request. The DisplayManager.requestPort >> is set to 0 in the default configuration. This solves the long start (I am >> pretty sure). Thank you for your suggestions that pushed me to find this. I was wrong about this. With this change xdm started fine from the command line and took perhaps even longer when started from /etc/ttys. This describes 7.4_1 behavior. > Hmm. That sounds like a bug (maybe IPV6 support being added but the feature > to disable it being forgotten). Does having an IPV6 localhost defined in > /etc/hosts ("::1 localhost") have the same effect? > >> I am also pretty sure my hardware just does not work with hal and dbus. > > What keyboard and mouse do you have? Also, which version of FreeBSD are you > using? All these issues are with xorg 7.4_1. I have installed xorg-7.4_2 via pkg_add on a clean system and xdm-1.1.8_2. Nothing else is installed. Starting xdm gives the following in /var/log/xdm-log: : finished PLL1 set RMX set LVDS enable LVDS disable primary dac disable FP1 disable TV /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/X: Undefined symbol "shmctl" xdm error (pid 1416): server unexpectedly died xdm error (pid 1416): Server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled I added one line to the xorg.conf file generated by Xorg -configure: Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" A diff shows this file to be exactly what I was using with xorg-7.4_1 (which works albeit with a very slow startup). I have excerpted various [relevant] outputs to show my hardware. I needed I can either attach or include the entire files. startx works but locks the keyboard. After running fsck scores of times, it finally occurred to me to ssh into the system so I can force a shutdown. With both startx (which appears to work) and xdm a reboot is required to recover the system. Starting xdm get an error logged to STDERR that an IPV6 LISTEN can not be done. My laptop is built without IPV6. hal and dbus are not started. Thanks for any help. This appears to be either an error in the way the package was build or something I can [hopefully] configure around. Hardware: IBM thinkpad T42p dmesg ------ pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xc0100000-0xc010ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 : atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 pciconf ------------ hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x05291014 chip=0x33408086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82855PM Processor to I/O Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x33418086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82855PM Processor to AGP Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI : vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x054f1014 chip=0x4e541002 rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'Radeon Mobility M10 NT (RV350-WS)' class = display subclass = VGA _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 19:59:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB290106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD178FC23 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PVYN1d0020vp7WLA5Xzy5Q; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:59:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PXzx1d00646zqiB8RXzxNi; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:59:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:59:56 -0800 From: Rem Roberti To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD Message-ID: <20091230195956.GA2954@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> <41326855@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230185014.GC1123@bsd.remdog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230185014.GC1123@bsd.remdog.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:59:57 -0000 > Ah, Boris...your patience is commendable, especially to this newbie. > But before I follow the instructions of your last post I assume that > installing f10 is implied, and should precede the installation of any > linux apps. Correct? OK...it finally dawned on me that f10 would get taken care of by the installation of the linux app. And...Linux-realplayer is now up and running. Whew! Thanks you. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 20:52:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62214106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-1-2.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-1-2.saix.net [196.25.240.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DC38FC1F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from belenos.localnet (dsl-244-252-189.telkomadsl.co.za [41.244.252.189]) by rrba-ip-smtp-1-2.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDBFF2C; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:52:36 +0200 (SAST) From: "Richard L. Mace" To: Mark Moellering Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:51:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <200912301645.50105.macerl@telkomsa.net> <200912301723.27938.pieter@service2media.com> <4B3B818E.3070909@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <4B3B818E.3070909@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912302251.38874.macerl@telkomsa.net> Cc: Pieter de Goeje , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chuck Robey Subject: Re: snd_hda peculiarities [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:52:41 -0000 On Wednesday 30 December 2009 18:36:30 Mark Moellering wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2009 15:45:50 Richard L. Mace wrote: > >> I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) on my laptop (HP 8510w) and > >> most things are working. However, a minor annoyance is that I only get > >> sound if I manually load snd_hda via: > >> > >> # kldload snd_hda > >> > >> i.e., after booting. If I place the following in /boot/loader.conf > >> > >> snd_hda_load="YES" > >> > >> I get no sound, even though the driver seems to load and cat > >> /dev/sndstat gives > > > > Try setting hw.snd.default_unit=1 in sysctl.conf. Most likely the order > > of the devices has changed. > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>--- ------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Audio Driver > >> (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > >> Installed devices: > >> pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on > >> hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > >> pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on > >> hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels simplex) > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>--- --------------------------------------------- > > > > This looks like the output from the working configuration. Note that the > > first device is the analog output, the second is a digital output. When > > you load snd_hda using loader.conf, the order is likely different on your > > machine and the digital output is listed first. hw.snd.default_unit=1 > > would then direct the sound to the proper (analog) output. > > > > - Pieter > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Richard, > I am sure that this is what I did to my machine to get snd_hda to > work. > . > Mark > Thanks to all for your valuable suggestions. It turns out that the problem was much simpler than I thought. When I kldload snd_hda I get two panes in Kmix, each called "OSS Audio Mixer". One contains a whole bunch of channels, the other only two: Front and PCM. It turns out that the simpler pane (front and pcm) controls the volume when you issue a: # kldload snd_hda and this was naturally the pane that I was paying attention to, even when loading via /boot/loader.conf. When all suggestions failed, I turned my attention to the other pane and noticed that OGain was muted. I unmuted the OGain channel and now I have sound even when I load snd_hda via /boot/loader.conf (with hw.snd.default_unit=0, i.e. its default setting). However, in contrast to what happens when I do a kldload, when loading via /boot/loader.conf the other more detailed pane (containing the OGain control) now controls the volume. Thanks again to all and my apologies for not looking for the simplest solution first. -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 21:06:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868CB106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 171848FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6987 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2009 21:06:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=TxWVhZ0UwOCsiEA8Ks/lbtITkDieHJWDtw/+7ieMvxu7l+i/312sUj+nE9/jnlaDNOSt+lTdxzLdft1iv8ZMhGPzfyP+51D1zAa5PG7fQMnMMYbz2/USLlaZ8l4rNpQ9XlB2HcHO3x+LHStXMM3tcIq8TYhLtctYorR+rY0UuDM= ; Received: from CPE0018027b43e0-CM0014e88f61fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (mike.jeays@99.224.61.141 with plain) by smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2009 13:06:40 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- X-YMail-OSG: dtUsbj8VM1nEJNXHlAxifG2bjiRGUZ44L6pxIuk1hVR.gjZki.P1NdARgm6qD6OM3Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Mike Jeays To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:38 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.28-15-generic; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200912301606.38905.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:06:46 -0000 I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that hardware virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a blank look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip models and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an AMD product? Any hints, please? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 21:22:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEBF106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A0E8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NQ5zj-0003rt-6v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:22:15 +0300 To: FreeBSD References: <20091230035134.GA20231@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230160323.GA3195@bsd.remdog.net> <98448506@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230161422.GB3195@bsd.remdog.net> <32367878@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230170841.GA1123@bsd.remdog.net> <00203540@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230173921.GB1123@bsd.remdog.net> <41326855@bb.ipt.ru> <20091230185014.GC1123@bsd.remdog.net> <20091230195956.GA2954@bsd.remdog.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:22:09 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091230195956.GA2954@bsd.remdog.net> (Rem Roberti's message of "Wed\, 30 Dec 2009 11\:59\:56 -0800") Message-ID: <53805406@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Linux-realplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:22:16 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:59:56 -0800 Rem Roberti wrote: > > Ah, Boris...your patience is commendable, especially to this newbie. > > But before I follow the instructions of your last post I assume that > > installing f10 is implied, and should precede the installation of any > > linux apps. Correct? > OK...it finally dawned on me that f10 would get taken care of > by the installation of the linux app. And...Linux-realplayer is now up > and running. Whew! You were faster than me and didn't give me a chance to answer your previous letter. ;-) I'm glad you solved a problem. Welcome to our party! -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 21:24:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9881065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C6E8FC14 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so8457532pzk.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:24:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BiOnHBQScCPaUy0MbuXlNoTl32Oocg/qHIPSo9eNJjc=; b=vtlpCat/rLoA3dM81iNIjlRR2ejekJVd7hvb/iey5s2gcNkYVC2fl0M5yOthfTcRZB 0rUPfhR7rYAhgm7w1zx1/qykQ7HZ9yz+O8QUKLoi+Vit3cE1iRh3t4aUpgmx7U7azglS sFXUVcEpURq/rXB1WqVEoLFm+xdRIuAUQIYyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=c+OBOYUMT+y0SXv3aN6dKbB8Cmhgvgked8BaqO6OAl3X3b1sRMpAof02ybpwJ1bZWi s6I2cVJ2gC/BipwdKVYfpMkv+5sfptNWCuPLHKWo/fUWlc5s/UryQk8Gp+/6xX660pcb eItuys7Ut616vtfZFLFRge2w4Or9XQy1BgmRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.27.12 with SMTP id e12mr12583205wfj.221.1262208264112; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:24:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912301606.38905.mike.jeays@rogers.com> References: <200912301606.38905.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd110912301324n3fad2252j88803f94328e39f@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:30 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Mike Jeays wrote: > I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that hardware > virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a > blank > look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip > models > and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an AMD > product? > > Any hints, please? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello: I like AMD because ALL their Athlon X2 and Phenom have it. Intel some models have it some ones dont. then you have to check first at intel page to be shure about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 21:34:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FB21065676 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995DC8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 8E733471FD5 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:34:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F8D3865B4 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:34:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:34:33 +0100 Message-Id: <200912302234.AA134415258@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: Re: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:34:17 -0000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Diego F. Arias R." Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:24:24 -0500 >On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Mike Jeays wrote: > >> I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that hardware >> virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a >> blank >> look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip >> models >> and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an AMD >> product? >> >> Any hints, please? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > >Hello: > >I like AMD because ALL their Athlon X2 and Phenom have it. Intel some models >have it some ones dont. then you have to check first at intel page to be >shure about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64 Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 21:41:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEB1065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826B78FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBULfvUU081450; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBULfvBI081445; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:57 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:41:59 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: [non applicable stuff cut] > Starting xdm gives the following in /var/log/xdm-log: > > : > finished PLL1 > set RMX > set LVDS > enable LVDS > disable primary dac > disable FP1 > disable TV > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/X: Undefined symbol "shmctl" > xdm error (pid 1416): server unexpectedly died > xdm error (pid 1416): Server for display :0 can't be started, session > disabled This is mostly likely because my 7.2 libc is earlier than the one used to build the package. I am told that, "there's a strong argument that 7-stable packages should actually be built against 7.0, which defines the binary interface, but the portmgr folks are not convinced to do so". As an end-user I would at least plead for a doc-change. This bit explains a lot of 'random' behavior that gets reported. Getting an error is the best that can be hoped for. A change in a syscall that produces a silent error is much more time consuming. Xorg being Xorg this is just, I am sure, the next layer. This is also most likely the answer to threads on 10/09/09 and 12/17/09. So in general if you have an issue with one of these mega-packages first make sure your build is later than the package build date. With ports that get unexplained compile error[s], the answer is also [first] update your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:04:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9EB1065694 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C408FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC1D5E17D; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.346, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AV3fGPEtdPGG; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:56 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC395E14F; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:54 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:04:00 -0000 On 2009-12-30 19:58, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 06:48:56PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I'm at the point where sane-find-scanner detects my scanner but >> scanimage cannot find it. >> >> I know I must use the sane-epkowa backend. >> >> I've edited the /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf but I think I need to >> make sane aware of the epkowa backend. > > Put a line > > epkowa > > in /usr/local/etc/sane.d/dll.conf It's already there > > Put the vendor and device-id you get from sane-find-scanner in epkowa.conf I did it before I posted this question. > > Roland When I was running 7.2 I had found a way to make it work. First I added the product in /sys/dev/usb/usbdevs then the same information had to be added in /sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c then I had to recompile the kernel, build and install it. The scanner would then be found. Now on 8.0 I can't find uscanner.c so there must be another way to handle it. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:08:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D975106568D for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110FF8FC17 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.16]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0C1AF833 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mail-in-04-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA95CACA69 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (dslb-094-217-103-198.pools.arcor-ip.net [94.217.103.198]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7979B39A6F6 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:13 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-06.arcor-online.net 7979B39A6F6 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUM8Di9067792 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBUM8D8n067791 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:15 -0000 Today I tried to burn an audio CD. This may actually be the first time I ever did this. I'm sure there are all kinds of GUIey tools, but I took the simple route: expanded a few high-quality MP3s to raw PCM with mpg123, then put a CD-R in the drive and burned it with burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * That seemed to work. Afterwards, I tried to play the CD with XMMS. That also worked fine. Then I put the CD into my car CD player, which was the reason for the whole exercise. 11 tracks (ok)... playing track 1... (nothing)... ERROR CD. The player does not like the CD. Is there anything obvious I missed? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:16:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A996E1065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nenad@venturis.hu) Received: from venturis.hu (venturis.hu [195.56.77.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656EB8FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by venturis.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBCF3920E5; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at venturis.hu Received: from venturis.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (venturis.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igOmAFRuVHMD; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:00:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.venturis.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by venturis.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96D43920E4; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:00:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:00:05 +0100 To: Mike Jeays , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" From: Nenad Mihajlovic Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.codeworxtech.com) [version 2.1] X-Mailer: FeLaMiMail In-Reply-To: <200912301606.38905.mike.jeays@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: Subject: Re: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:16:53 -0000 =20 Hello, For the Intel processors VT support, you can check up on=20 http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx go for no less than dual-core 8400. and for the AMD desktop processors, here: http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx and some of new X4 phenoms. Either AMD or Intel, both are good choice, we have run numerous = environments here without any problem.=20 For the serious application you might want to go for the Xeon or Opteron family, though. Regards, Nenad ----------------original message----------------- from: "Mike Jeays" mike.jeays@rogers.com to: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" freebsd-questions@freebsd.org date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:38 -0500 ------------------------------------------------- =20 =20 > I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that = hardware=20 > virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a blank=20 > look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip models=20 > and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an AMD=20 > product? >=20 > Any hints, please? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:18:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ED91065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A96F8FC19 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-206-49.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.206.49]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D591EA5B; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:18:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBUMIcm1002788; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:18:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:18:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Message-Id: <20091230231838.a8a57f7c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:18:42 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:12 +0000 (UTC), naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > Today I tried to burn an audio CD. This may actually be the first > time I ever did this. > > I'm sure there are all kinds of GUIey tools, but I took the simple > route: expanded a few high-quality MP3s to raw PCM with mpg123, > then put a CD-R in the drive and burned it with > > burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * How about "fixate" at the end of the command, or do I remember incorrectly that this is needed? At least it was used for data tracks (ISO-9660)... > Then I put the CD into my car CD player, which was the reason for > the whole exercise. > 11 tracks (ok)... playing track 1... (nothing)... ERROR CD. > > The player does not like the CD. Do you have another "hardware CD player" to check? Maybe the car's CD player doesn't like your CD media - this is quite possible. (I have such a "hardware CD player" that doesn't play burned CDs, but pressed ones.) Some CD drives are picky about the media they accept. > Is there anything obvious I missed? Except "fixate" maybe... but keep in mind that I'm not sure about this; I'm not using burncd anymore since I discovered cdrecord and cdrdao (that use the ATAPICAM facility). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:23:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D231106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D458FC15 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (195.54.127.164) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BC021345C4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:23:42 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlFTAJJhO0tV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBSZdAgj0BAQEBN7tqhDEEgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,477,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="21765152" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2009 23:23:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3BD2EC.3050908@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:23:40 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091227 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Weisgerber References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:23:44 -0000 On 2009-12-30 23:08, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Today I tried to burn an audio CD. This may actually be the first > time I ever did this. > > I'm sure there are all kinds of GUIey tools, but I took the simple > route: expanded a few high-quality MP3s to raw PCM with mpg123, > then put a CD-R in the drive and burned it with > > burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * > > That seemed to work. Afterwards, I tried to play the CD with XMMS. > That also worked fine. > > Then I put the CD into my car CD player, which was the reason for > the whole exercise. > 11 tracks (ok)... playing track 1... (nothing)... ERROR CD. > > The player does not like the CD. > > Is there anything obvious I missed? > I was about to suggest adding fixate to the command line, like so burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * fixate but then I read in the man page that it's ignored if -d is given (obviously now that I think about it, since DAO normally implies fixating). However, it may be worth trying anyway. You may also want to try sysutils/cdrtools-devel, which is a lot more competent than burncd. However, as you have an ATAPI CD burner, you will need atapicam in your kernel. Either add device atapicam to your kernel config, recompile, install and reboot or kldload atapicam as root in the console or an xterm. To automate it, add atapicam_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf. Good luck, Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:44:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EAB106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694E98FC21 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBUMikSS030532; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0E1A5BA7A; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:46 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:44:48 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:03:54PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > When I was running 7.2 I had found a way to make it work. >=20 > First I added the product in /sys/dev/usb/usbdevs then the same=20 > information had to be added in /sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c then I had to=20 > recompile the kernel, build and install it. The scanner would then be fou= nd. >=20 > Now on 8.0 I can't find uscanner.c so there must be another way to=20 > handle it. The uscanner device has been deprecated in favor of the libusb API that is = in the base system in 8.x. (Even the /dev/ugen devices are now just links to nodes in /dev/usb/.) If you have the configuration right (both dll.conf and epkowa.conf), check = the device permissions. I've got the following in /etc/devfs.rules (not devfs.c= onf!); add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb (Note that USB devices are now in a separate subdirectory!) All users of UDB devices must be in the usb group, in this case. If you don't have untrusted users you could use 'mode 0666' without the group statement. If the device permissions are OK, please post your epkowa.conf and dll.conf, and the output of 'usbconfig list' when the scanner is attached As an aside, have you tried the plain epson driver?=20 Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks7194ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVGwgCfVtVxY/43FUX70kLn1ml6s6my OkMAniiyfCScNYdLSBGTj5QASWuZLQt2 =IJpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:50:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D93F106566C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7E78FC08 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBUMohF3071132; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:50:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C8BE0BA7A; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:50:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:50:42 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Rolf Nielsen Message-ID: <20091230225042.GB89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3BD2EC.3050908@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3BD2EC.3050908@lazlarlyricon.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:50:45 -0000 --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:23:40PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > On 2009-12-30 23:08, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Today I tried to burn an audio CD. This may actually be the first > > time I ever did this. > > > > I'm sure there are all kinds of GUIey tools, but I took the simple > > route: expanded a few high-quality MP3s to raw PCM with mpg123, > > then put a CD-R in the drive and burned it with > > > > burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * > > > > That seemed to work. Afterwards, I tried to play the CD with XMMS. > > That also worked fine. > > > > Then I put the CD into my car CD player, which was the reason for > > the whole exercise. > > 11 tracks (ok)... playing track 1... (nothing)... ERROR CD. > > > > The player does not like the CD. > > > > Is there anything obvious I missed? > > >=20 > I was about to suggest adding fixate to the command line, like so >=20 > burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * fixate >=20 > but then I read in the man page that it's ignored if -d is given=20 > (obviously now that I think about it, since DAO normally implies=20 > fixating). However, it may be worth trying anyway. >=20 > You may also want to try sysutils/cdrtools-devel, which is a lot more=20 > competent than burncd. However, as you have an ATAPI CD burner, you will= =20 > need atapicam in your kernel. Either add >=20 > device atapicam >=20 > to your kernel config, recompile, install and reboot or >=20 > kldload atapicam >=20 > as root in the console or an xterm. >=20 > To automate it, add >=20 > atapicam_load=3D"YES" >=20 > to your /boot/loader.conf. The user that runs cdrecord also requires write access to the /dev/xpt0 dev= ice and the /dev/passN device! See devfs.conf(5) and devfs.rules(5) for making device permissions permanent.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks72UIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW/VwCgjagEfKLVt7pW7WhTRSEjsX10 tBYAnR/A8frltbmcDGnC/FxZPmCN8fmn =Nz46 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:57:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119F7106568B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83158FC20 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUMvVl7073071; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:57:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBUMvVMS073068; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:57:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:57:31 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@safeport.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:57:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:57:33 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: >>> I am also pretty sure my hardware just does not work with hal and dbus. >> >> What keyboard and mouse do you have? Also, which version of FreeBSD are >> you using? > > All these issues are with xorg 7.4_1. I have installed xorg-7.4_2 via pkg_add > on a clean system and xdm-1.1.8_2. Nothing else is installed. Well, yes, but I was asking about the FreeBSD version: 7.2, 8.0, etc. Mainly the difference is for USB devices. [...xdm info saved for another message...] > I added one line to the xorg.conf file generated by Xorg -configure: > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" That prevents dbus/hal from being used by xorg, so it's not surprising they don't work. > A diff shows this file to be exactly what I was using with xorg-7.4_1 (which > works albeit with a very slow startup). I have excerpted various [relevant] > outputs to show my hardware. I needed I can either attach or include the > entire files. > > startx works but locks the keyboard. I may have asked before, but does ctrl-alt-f1 still work? Even if the rest of the keyboard is not responding, that can tell you if X is alive. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 22:59:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9661065694 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B706F8FC26 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C002107FDB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:59:34 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlFTANFpO0tV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBSZdAgj0BAQEBN7sohDEEgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,477,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="21772703" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 30 Dec 2009 23:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3BDB55.5080505@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:59:33 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091227 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3BD2EC.3050908@lazlarlyricon.com> <20091230225042.GB89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091230225042.GB89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:59:36 -0000 On 2009-12-30 23:50, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:23:40PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> On 2009-12-30 23:08, Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>> Today I tried to burn an audio CD. This may actually be the first >>> time I ever did this. >>> >>> I'm sure there are all kinds of GUIey tools, but I took the simple >>> route: expanded a few high-quality MP3s to raw PCM with mpg123, >>> then put a CD-R in the drive and burned it with >>> >>> burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * >>> >>> That seemed to work. Afterwards, I tried to play the CD with XMMS. >>> That also worked fine. >>> >>> Then I put the CD into my car CD player, which was the reason for >>> the whole exercise. >>> 11 tracks (ok)... playing track 1... (nothing)... ERROR CD. >>> >>> The player does not like the CD. >>> >>> Is there anything obvious I missed? >>> >> >> I was about to suggest adding fixate to the command line, like so >> >> burncd -f /dev/acd0 -d audio * fixate >> >> but then I read in the man page that it's ignored if -d is given >> (obviously now that I think about it, since DAO normally implies >> fixating). However, it may be worth trying anyway. >> >> You may also want to try sysutils/cdrtools-devel, which is a lot more >> competent than burncd. However, as you have an ATAPI CD burner, you will >> need atapicam in your kernel. Either add >> >> device atapicam >> >> to your kernel config, recompile, install and reboot or >> >> kldload atapicam >> >> as root in the console or an xterm. >> >> To automate it, add >> >> atapicam_load="YES" >> >> to your /boot/loader.conf. > > The user that runs cdrecord also requires write access to the /dev/xpt0 device > and the /dev/passN device! See devfs.conf(5) and devfs.rules(5) for making > device permissions permanent. > > Roland Roland: Oh yes, I forgot about that. Thanks for adding it. :) Christian: Another thought occured to me. Though unlikely, it is possible that your car CD player doesn't play CD-R's or that it has problems with the particular brand CD-R's you used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 23:06:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2AB1065672 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3A98FC13 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3555E188; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:06:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.256 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.256 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.344, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4xWPDQJRfWF5; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:06:20 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F665E18D; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:06:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:06:20 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:06:24 -0000 > > The uscanner device has been deprecated in favor of the libusb API that is in > the base system in 8.x. (Even the /dev/ugen devices are now just links to > nodes in /dev/usb/.) > > If you have the configuration right (both dll.conf and epkowa.conf), check the > device permissions. I've got the following in /etc/devfs.rules (not devfs.conf!); > > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb > > (Note that USB devices are now in a separate subdirectory!) All users of UDB > devices must be in the usb group, in this case. If you don't have untrusted > users you could use 'mode 0666' without the group statement. > > If the device permissions are OK, please post your epkowa.conf and dll.conf, > and the output of 'usbconfig list' when the scanner is attached > > As an aside, have you tried the plain epson driver? > > Roland my dll.conf: # enable the next line if you want to allow access through the network: net abaton agfafocus apple avision artec artec_eplus48u as6e bh canon canon630u canon_dr #canon_pp cardscan coolscan #coolscan2 coolscan3 #dc25 #dc210 #dc240 dell1600n_net dmc epjitsu #epson epson2 fujitsu #gphoto2 genesys gt68xx hp hp3900 hpsj5s hp3500 hp4200 hp5400 hp5590 hpljm1005 hs2p ibm leo lexmark ma1509 matsushita microtek microtek2 mustek #mustek_pp mustek_usb mustek_usb2 nec niash pie pint pixma plustek #plustek_pp #pnm qcam ricoh rts8891 s9036 sceptre sharp sm3600 sm3840 snapscan sp15c #st400 #stv680 tamarack teco1 teco2 teco3 #test u12 umax #umax_pp umax1220u v4l xerox_mfp epkowa epkowa.conf usb 0x04b8 0x0130 I've created /etc/devfs.rules it was not present! With the line: add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 usbconfig list ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen2.1: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen3.1: at usbus3, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ugen4.1: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen5.1: at usbus5, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen6.1: at usbus6, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen7.1: at usbus7, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ugen4.2: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen2.2: <5880 Broadcom Corp> at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON ugen7.2: at usbus7, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON I've not tried the plain epson driver. Acording to the SANE home page my scanner (Epson Perfection V500 Photo) is only supported by the epkowa driver. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 23:34:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835891065670 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4518FC1F for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUNYsi8073170; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:34:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBUNYs99073167; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:34:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:34:54 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@safeport.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:34:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:34:55 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > [non applicable stuff cut] > >> Starting xdm gives the following in /var/log/xdm-log: >> >> : >> finished PLL1 >> set RMX >> set LVDS >> enable LVDS >> disable primary dac >> disable FP1 >> disable TV >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/X: Undefined symbol "shmctl" >> xdm error (pid 1416): server unexpectedly died >> xdm error (pid 1416): Server for display :0 can't be started, session >> disabled > > This is mostly likely because my 7.2 libc is earlier than the one used to > build the package. I am told that, "there's a strong argument that 7-stable > packages should actually be built against 7.0, which defines the binary > interface, but the portmgr folks are not convinced to do so". After updating ports, 'portsdb -Fu' and 'portversion -vL=' will show what's outdated. (That's with portupgrade installed. Some would have you believe it's second in evil only to HAL. Maybe true, but it works.) And then 'portupgrade -r portname' (or 'portupgrade -ar', if you like) should upgrade the outdated stuff and everything that depends on it. And -P or -PP might help by retrieving packages, although I haven't tried that in years. > As an end-user I would at least plead for a doc-change. This bit explains a > lot of 'random' behavior that gets reported. Getting an error is the best > that can be hoped for. A change in a syscall that produces a silent error is > much more time consuming. Xorg being Xorg this is just, I am sure, the next > layer. This is also most likely the answer to threads on 10/09/09 and > 12/17/09. Is the slow startup with xdm fixed by upgrading libc? By replacing the package or via ports? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 23:44:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E069106566B for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517D48FC0C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBUNi4s7073204; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:44:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBUNi4aw073201; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:44:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:44:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:44:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:06 -0000 On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I've created /etc/devfs.rules it was not present! > > With the line: > > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 A line in /etc/rc.conf is needed to activate those rules, too: devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" ...assuming you had [localrules=10] at the start of devfs.rules. These are just permissions applied to dynamic devices. It's easier to first test the scanner as root. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 01:02:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1523B106566C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C068FC19 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBV12PAg003403; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBV12Pbu003400; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:02:27 -0000 j On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> >> [non applicable stuff cut] >> >>> Starting xdm gives the following in /var/log/xdm-log: >>> >>> : >>> finished PLL1 >>> set RMX >>> set LVDS >>> enable LVDS >>> disable primary dac >>> disable FP1 >>> disable TV >>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/X: Undefined symbol "shmctl" >>> xdm error (pid 1416): server unexpectedly died >>> xdm error (pid 1416): Server for display :0 can't be started, session >>> disabled >> >> This is mostly likely because my 7.2 libc is earlier than the one used to >> build the package. I am told that, "there's a strong argument that 7-stable >> packages should actually be built against 7.0, which defines the binary >> interface, but the portmgr folks are not convinced to do so". > > After updating ports, 'portsdb -Fu' and 'portversion -vL=' will show what's > outdated. (That's with portupgrade installed. Some would have you believe > it's second in evil only to HAL. Maybe true, but it works.) > > And then 'portupgrade -r portname' (or 'portupgrade -ar', if you like) should > upgrade the outdated stuff and everything that depends on it. And -P or -PP > might help by retrieving packages, although I haven't tried that in years. This includes libc? man 2 libc >> As an end-user I would at least plead for a doc-change. This bit explains a >> lot of 'random' behavior that gets reported. Getting an error is the best >> that can be hoped for. A change in a syscall that produces a silent error >> is much more time consuming. Xorg being Xorg this is just, I am sure, the >> next layer. This is also most likely the answer to threads on 10/09/09 and >> 12/17/09. > > Is the slow startup with xdm fixed by upgrading libc? By replacing the > package or via ports? > Still building Warren, will let you know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 01:29:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A075106568B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE048FC19 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBV1TURn073541; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:29:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBV1TUAa073538; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:29:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:29:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@fledge.watson.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:29:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:29:38 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> After updating ports, 'portsdb -Fu' and 'portversion -vL=' will show what's >> outdated. (That's with portupgrade installed. Some would have you believe >> it's second in evil only to HAL. Maybe true, but it works.) >> >> And then 'portupgrade -r portname' (or 'portupgrade -ar', if you like) >> should upgrade the outdated stuff and everything that depends on it. And -P >> or -PP might help by retrieving packages, although I haven't tried that in >> years. > > This includes libc? man 2 libc Doh, I was thinking of ports, not system. Some ports have code to check for system version requirements, and I'd expect packages to do the same thing. But they're moving targets, and developers and porters can't check all the combinations. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 01:35:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DC91065672 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB978FC12 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTLAPTOP) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NQ9wz-000Cxz-1E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:35:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2DF8945D1FE94C8EBEC2B46C75A406CF@GRANTLAPTOP> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:35:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Subject: Ion-cube FreeBSD 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:42 -0000 Hi all, I am in the middle of setting up a new FreeBSD 8.0 server, and need to load the ioncube loader. I have been to the ioncube site and they do not have a release for FBSD8 yet. I was wondering if anyone on this list has setup FreeBSD 8.0 (Php 5.2, Apache 2.2) using a previous version of the loader. If so, which one did you use? -Grnat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 02:24:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA7D106568F for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE168FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBV2O2Pt012927; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBV2O2mo012924; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:02 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:02 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:24:03 -0000 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > >>> After updating ports, 'portsdb -Fu' and 'portversion -vL=' will show >>> what's outdated. (That's with portupgrade installed. Some would have you >>> believe it's second in evil only to HAL. Maybe true, but it works.) >>> >>> And then 'portupgrade -r portname' (or 'portupgrade -ar', if you like) >>> should upgrade the outdated stuff and everything that depends on it. And >>> -P or -PP might help by retrieving packages, although I haven't tried that >>> in years. >> >> This includes libc? man 2 libc > > Doh, I was thinking of ports, not system. Some ports have code to check for > system version requirements, and I'd expect packages to do the same thing. > But they're moving targets, and developers and porters can't check all the > combinations. First building the system does indeed solve all xorg package problems. Second I am not sure I agree with your statement. I think the answer is relatively easy: (1) build packages against the base release, or, (2) document the problem, or lastly (3) have the port management tools check for this. While I am not sure if (3) is possible, I am pretty sure (2) is. Anyway X and its successor Xorg is at once the great leveler and I have learned more about FreeBSD getting my Desktops going than any other single activity. I appreciate all the time you spent leading me to the solution. Bouncing thoughts and ideas with you was most helpful. I wanted to post my original comment and this to make explicit that a version 7 package will not necessarily work on a 7.2 system. I certainly do not have the knowledge to know what system libraries a port is built on. This was actually quite easy to find because of the error. If there is no error you are left doing a ktrace or something. By the way have gotten the error and figuring out that libc was involved, I did not understand the implication, I had help there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 09:54:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AA910656A7 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6708FC13 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E735E18B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:54:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id yn-QCT6F8yLp for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:54:33 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1A15E18A for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:54:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3C74D0.9010403@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:54:24 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Java error/question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:54:38 -0000 On the console I see a lot of warnings like this: Cannot open "/home/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_nscp.so I can find libjavaplugin_nscp.so in two places: /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_nscp.so /usr/local/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_nscp.so To get rid of the error I'm considering a symlink, but to which of the above should I point? Both the diablo-jdk1.6.0 and jdk1.6.0 are installed as dependencies. I would like your suggestion on how to fix this. Thanks Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 11:04:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE90B1065672 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E5E8FC15 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBVB4shM074987; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:04:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1CBEBA9B; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:04:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:04:53 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:04:57 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:06:20AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >=20 > my dll.conf: Personally, I would only leave in the backends that I actually use. > epkowa.conf >=20 > usb 0x04b8 0x0130 That should be OK. =20 > I've created /etc/devfs.rules it was not present! >=20 > With the line: >=20 > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 This means you'd have to be in the wheel or operator group to have access!= =20 Either add a specific group that you are a member of, or use 0666. You should also have a ruleset identifier in devfs.rules. Read devfs.rules(= 5). And you'd have to activate the ruleset in /etc/rc.conf. After that it is be= st to reboot to make sure all the changes are in effect. Or you can test the scanner as root, like Warren said. Root has access to a= ll devices. Try running xscanimage from a terminal, and look at the error messages, if any. If scanning works as root but not as a normal user, it is probably a permission problem. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks8hVUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXIZQCfQqSPblGvxO+YT2ny8cogTP+C O1EAoKWobyoMhKBYLsiHemsly/aI3M/d =6kMp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 11:25:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F7C10656A3 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751158FC0C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4625E054; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:25:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SpiN+LokIh-H; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:25:55 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8CC5E162; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:25:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:25:53 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:26:00 -0000 On 2009-12-31 12:04, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:06:20AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> my dll.conf: > > Personally, I would only leave in the backends that I actually use. What do you mean? > >> epkowa.conf >> >> usb 0x04b8 0x0130 > > That should be OK. > >> I've created /etc/devfs.rules it was not present! >> >> With the line: >> >> add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 > > This means you'd have to be in the wheel or operator group to have access! > Either add a specific group that you are a member of, or use 0666. Yes I am, and I always test as root. > > You should also have a ruleset identifier in devfs.rules. Read devfs.rules(5). > And you'd have to activate the ruleset in /etc/rc.conf. After that it is best > to reboot to make sure all the changes are in effect. I have devfs_system_ruleset="system" i rc.conf and [system=10] add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 in devfs.rules > > Or you can test the scanner as root, like Warren said. Root has access to all > devices. Try running xscanimage from a terminal, and look at the error > messages, if any. :xscanimage [xscanimage] No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by sane-find-scanner (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). :sudo xscanimage [xscanimage] No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by sane-find-scanner (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). > > If scanning works as root but not as a normal user, it is probably a > permission problem. The messages above plus the fact that scanimage -L produces the same message as above suggests to me that the system stil needs to be made aware of the scanner. I just not able to figure out where to do it. > > Roland /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 11:52:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8C8106566C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A908FC17 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NQJa1-0002xK-Nj; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:40 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NQJa0-0001Vz-P1; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:37 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVBqa0U044262; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:36 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBVBqa7v044261; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:36 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:36 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Erik Trulsson Message-ID: <20091231115236.GA44230@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091230123341.GC36440@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091230131112.GA2115@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230131112.GA2115@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:42 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:11:13PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:33:41PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. > > None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have > > passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected > > logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. > > > > Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. > > > > Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have > > passwd. > > toor, like many other system accounts, by default has its password entry set > to '*' which indicates that password authenictation is disabled for that > account. (See the passwd(5) manpage for details.) > This means that unless you set a password for toor you cannot login as toor, > so the mere presence of that account is not a security problem. my mistake was due to looking at passwd(1) instead of passwd(5). many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 11:58:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0688E106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E5778FC13 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Dec 2009 11:58:20 -0000 Received: from d018161.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [80.171.18.161]) [80.171.18.161] by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 31 Dec 2009 12:58:20 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19gqDIWa9hgjFBLh5pl6kuAvT2GNw6Mk7iToW4Ie8 0oVcj/0th0oSDb Message-ID: <4B3C91DC.8030802@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:58:20 +0100 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B2B0790.2010005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Subject: Re: Confusion About "FreeBSD now supports host and guest modes in VirtualBox" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:58:24 -0000 Am 28.12.2009 19:10, schrieb Ivan Voras: > Ivan Voras wrote: >> Ryan Ware wrote: >>> Maybe someone here can distribute some enlightenment. In the press >>> release for 8.0 it says, "FreeBSD now supports host and guest modes >>> in VirtualBox". I understand what the host mode support is with the >>> VirtualBox port. What I don't understand is what support for guest >>> mode is. I don't see anything anywhere about guest additions. As >>> far as I can tell, guest support seems to consist of simply allowing >>> the kernel to run in VirtualBox. Am I missing something? >> >> AFAIK no, that's it. > > Actually, it looks like the newest version (will arrive to ports soon) > has guest tools/additions for FreeBSD. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > When you download https://svn.bluelife.at/nightlies/virtualbox-port-r601.tar.gz you can see, that there 3 ports. Two ports are for host, i think and one port has name "virtualbox-ose-additions". I think this port will make guest additions for freebsd as guest. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 12:06:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA55610656AC for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 271AE8FC29 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Dec 2009 12:06:14 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp055) with SMTP; 31 Dec 2009 13:06:14 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18w8QYpjT8wdeQz/fvf3Cyytqfq7LovKGDbFzNBit /Dxnyq4k2VVfC7 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:06:02 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20091231120602.GA4597@sandcat> References: <20091229233733.GA22526@sandcat> <59847b700912291822l62093a4fqf154c8f22f42f527@mail.gmail.com> <20091230082147.GA55156@sandcat> <4B3B25EB.6050607@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3B25EB.6050607@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.61 Cc: "Dave M." , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Midnight Commander - Where is the subshell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:06:16 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:05:31AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > herbert langhans said the following on 2009-12-30 09:21: > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:22:29AM +0000, Dave M. wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM, herbert langhans > >> wrote: > >>> Hi Daemons, > >>> I have just installed the brandnew mc 4.7 - now there is still an old little annoyance: > >>> > >>> Being root I can switch away the mc-commander and use the shell, CTRL+o does the trick. > >>> > >>> But as a normal user CTRL+o blanks the screen, no shell prompt appears and hitting a key just shows mc again. > >>> > >>> The subshell support must be working, all is fine if I am root. > >>> What is wrong there, anyone knows the trick using the subshell as a normal user?? > >>> > > >> Hello, > >> Check your directory permissions on ~home/.mc > > > > I tried 777 on ~/.mc - still the same problem. > > > > How about other listers Midnight Commander? Is it the same on your computers? > > Maybe I will write to the port maintainerabout it, > > for the case it is a common bug. > > > I have no problems with mc subshell. You can move ~/.mc to some other > name and start over. Fascinating. I have the 'no subshell' phenomenon on the desktop and the laptop. Tried also from another user login, still the same. Root can use mc-subshell, but users get a blank screen with CTRL-o. It even seems to be not a common problem. Just common on my FreeBSD-computers.. Cheers herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 12:09:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31241065692 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569E08FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBVC9d2e034309; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:09:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0506FBA9B; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:09:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:09:39 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:09:41 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:25:53PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >=20 > On 2009-12-31 12:04, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:06:20AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> > >> my dll.conf: > > > > Personally, I would only leave in the backends that I actually use. >=20 > What do you mean? I only have one line in my dll.conf, containing just the epson driver. In y= our case, only the line 'epkowa' should suffice. =20 > > If scanning works as root but not as a normal user, it is probably a > > permission problem. >=20 > The messages above plus the fact that scanimage -L produces the same=20 > message as above suggests to me that the system stil needs to be made=20 > aware of the scanner. I just not able to figure out where to do it. What does sane-find-scanner say? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks8lIIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUCrACfTzq4etetzgjAHr5ePQakRcb1 rKgAni3cAnsKbbKqcpYWuY9TVQ8OMqga =AnME -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 12:14:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEA31065695 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665838FC19 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC3D5E18B; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:14:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.335, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id X9wY89+ASZpC; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:14:35 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC81A5E18A; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:14:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3C95AB.9070809@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:14:35 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:14:39 -0000 On 2009-12-31 13:09, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:25:53PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> On 2009-12-31 12:04, Roland Smith wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:06:20AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>> >>>> my dll.conf: >>> >>> Personally, I would only leave in the backends that I actually use. >> >> What do you mean? > > I only have one line in my dll.conf, containing just the epson driver. In your > case, only the line 'epkowa' should suffice. ok, I'll try commenting out all but epkowa > >>> If scanning works as root but not as a normal user, it is probably a >>> permission problem. >> >> The messages above plus the fact that scanimage -L produces the same >> message as above suggests to me that the system stil needs to be made >> aware of the scanner. I just not able to figure out where to do it. > > What does sane-find-scanner say? sane-find-scanner -q found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0130 [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen7.2 > > Roland From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 13:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78DB106566C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D3D8FC12 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:35 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArobABszPEuWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACBLoI7wmeNOoNbVgQ Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 31 Dec 2009 23:55:34 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 1 Jan 2010 00:28:45 +1100 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:25:02 +1100 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 1 Jan 2010 00:28:44 +1100 Message-ID: <4B3CA62E.7060700@pdconsec.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:25:02 +1100 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nenad Mihajlovic References: In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2009 13:25:02.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8C52450:01CA8A1C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mike Jeays , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:36 -0000 On 31/12/2009 9:00 AM, Nenad Mihajlovic wrote: > Hello, > > For the Intel processors VT support, you can check up on > > http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx > go for no less than dual-core 8400. > > and for the AMD desktop processors, here: > > http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx > and some of new X4 phenoms. > > Either AMD or Intel, both are good choice, we have run numerous environments > here without any problem. > For the serious application you might want to go for the Xeon or Opteron > family, though. > > Regards, > Nenad > > > ----------------original message----------------- > from: "Mike Jeays" mike.jeays@rogers.com > to: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:38 -0500 > ------------------------------------------------- > > > >> I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that hardware >> virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a >> > blank > >> look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip >> > models > >> and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an >> > AMD > >> product? >> >> Any hints, please? >> _______________________________________________ >> Intel processors are documented at http://processorfinder.intel.com/ - from what I can see, the following Intel processors have VT (Hardware Virtualization): * All E6xxx series Core 2 Duo * All Q6xxx series Core 2 Quad * All E8xxx series Core 2 Duo * All Q9xxx series Core 2 Quad * All Q8xxx series Core 2 Quad *except Q8200* * All Core i7 processors * All Core i5 processors * All Xeon 3000, 3200, 5000, 5500, 7000 series processors As far as I know, the following do not: * Core 2 Duo 4000, 5000, 7000 series processors * Pentium Dual Core E5000 and lower series processors * Celeron processors Even more critical than the CPU is the board - without BIOS support, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Dave. P.S. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 15:27:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CBF1065679 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EF08FC14 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6605E18E; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.267 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.267 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vKnVRsNgcYxt; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:27:17 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400B95E169; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:27:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3CC2D0.6090409@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:27:12 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:27:21 -0000 I did a sane-find-scanner -v -v I've pasted what's relevant for the scanner. ------------------------------------------------------------ This is sane-find-scanner from sane-backends 1.0.20 # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer. searching for SCSI scanners: checking /dev/scanner... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/scanner0... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/scanner1... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass0... open ok Inquiry for device: 000: 05 80 00 32 5b 00 00 00 50 4c 44 53 20 20 20 20 ...2[...PLDS 016: 44 56 44 2b 2d 52 57 20 44 55 2d 38 41 32 53 20 DVD+-RW DU-8A2S 032: 34 44 31 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4D13............ 048: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 064: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ found SCSI CD-drive "PLDS DVD+-RW DU-8A2S 4D13" at /dev/pass0 checking /dev/pass1... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass2... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass3... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass4... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass5... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass6... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/pass7... failed to open (Invalid argument) # Your SCSI scanner was detected. It may or may not be supported by SANE. Try # scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. searching for USB scanners: checking /dev/uscanner... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner0... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner1... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner2... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner3... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner4... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner5... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner6... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner7... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner8... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner9... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner10... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner11... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner12... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner13... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner14... failed to open (Invalid argument) checking /dev/uscanner15... failed to open (Invalid argument) trying libusb: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 255 bDeviceSubClass 255 bDeviceProtocol 255 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x04B8 idProduct 0x0130 bcdDevice 1.00 iManufacturer 1 (EPSON) iProduct 2 (EPSON Scanner) iSerialNumber 0 () bNumConfigurations 1 bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 () bmAttributes 192 (Self-powered) MaxPower 2 mA bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 bInterfaceSubClass 255 bInterfaceProtocol 255 iInterface 0 () bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 (in 0x01) bmAttributes 2 (bulk) wMaxPacketSize 512 bInterval 255 ms bRefresh 0 bSynchAddress 0 bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 (out 0x02) bmAttributes 2 (bulk) wMaxPacketSize 512 bInterval 255 ms bRefresh 0 bSynchAddress 0 checking for GT-6801 ... this is not a GT-6801 (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for GT-6816 ... this is not a GT-6816 (bDeviceClass = 255, bInterfaceClass = 255) checking for GT-8911 ... this is not a GT-8911 (check 1, bDeviceClass = 255, bInterfaceClass = 255) checking for MA-1017 ... this is not a MA-1017 (bDeviceClass = 255, bInterfaceClass = 255) checking for MA-1015 ... this is not a MA-1015 (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for MA-1509 ... this is not a MA-1509 (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for LM983[1,2,3] ... this is not a LM983x (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for GL646 ... this is not a GL646 (bDeviceClass = 255, bInterfaceClass = 255) checking for GL646_HP ... this is not a GL646_HP (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for GL660+GL646 ... this is not a GL660+GL646 (bDeviceClass = 255, bInterfaceClass = 255) checking for GL84x ... this is not a GL841 (bNumEndpoints = 2) checking for ICM532B ... this is not a ICM532B (check 2, bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for PV8630/LM9830 ... this is not a PV8630/LM9830 (bDeviceClass = 255) checking for M011 ... this is not a M011 (bcdUSB = 0x200) checking for RTS8822 ... this is not a RTS8822 (bDeviceClass = 255) checking for rts8858c ... this is not a rts8858c (bDeviceClass = 255) checking for SQ113 ... this is not a SQ113 (bDeviceClass = 255) checking for HP5550/5590/7650 chipset ... this is not a HP5550/5590/7650 chipset (bNumEndpoints = 2) checking for rts8801/rts8891 ... this is not a rts8801/rts8891 (bDeviceClass = 255) found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0130 [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen7.2 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. # Not checking for parallel port scanners. # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports # can't be detected by this program. done ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 16:05:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6411065695 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34468FC18 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBVG56MH088799; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:05:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B7470BA8A; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:05:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:05:06 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091231160506.GA22893@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3CC2D0.6090409@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3CC2D0.6090409@eskk.nu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:09 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 04:27:12PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >=20 > I did a >=20 > sane-find-scanner -v -v > EPSON Scanner)> According to [http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-backends-external.html#S-EPKOWA],= =20 your scanner "requires DFSG non-free iscan-plugin-gt-x770". Not sure what t= hat means, though. And according to /usr/ports/graphics/sane-epkowa/Makefile, the latest versi= on of the driver doesn't work yet because of runtime issues, so it builds an earlier version. It could just be that this version does not support your scanner yet. Maybe you should contact the port maintainer. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks8y7IACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXH+wCgkqxO8p4EcI78BuSJwo0v7Ruw k24AnjwjLZc6wafgA8Xihr9y3mWvhFxm =F1OX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 16:06:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67611065679 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@bert-jan.com) Received: from aeryn.bugbyte.nl (aeryn.bugbyte.nl [81.23.226.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BB98FC13 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12351 invoked by uid 1011); 31 Dec 2009 17:06:37 +0100 Received: from 213.10.95.32 by aeryn.bugbyte.nl (envelope-from , uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.95.2/10103. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.032577 secs); 31 Dec 2009 16:06:37 -0000 X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl-Mail-From: info@bert-jan.com via aeryn.bugbyte.nl X-Antivirus-bugbyte.nl: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(213.10.95.32):. Processed in 0.032577 secs Process 12344) Received: from ipd50a5f20.speed.planet.nl (HELO ?192.168.2.5?) (postmaster@bert-jan.com@213.10.95.32) by aeryn.bugbyte.nl with SMTP; 31 Dec 2009 17:06:37 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3CCC0D.3030100@bert-jan.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:06:37 +0100 From: Bert-Jan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B3A82B0.7010409@bert-jan.com> <4B3B2A98.6080002@bert-jan.com> In-Reply-To: <4B3B2A98.6080002@bert-jan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HP NC373i unsupported..? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:44 -0000 The nic is running fine so far. Is there a test scenario to run to validate that it's really production-stable ? Bert-Jan wrote: > Replying to my own question.. I found the B0 version of this adapter > is intentionally disabled in the driver. > I've commented out the case that catches the 5708_B0 and I'm > recompiling the kernel. > As this server has run for years without problems I'm hoping the nic > will work just fine. Maybe it's disabled because someone else had > problems with it that I'm about to run into.. > > Will keep you posted... > > > Bert-Jan wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I just got a HP Proliant DL380 G5 and I've installed FreeBSD 8.0 on it. >> The nic won't come up however. >> >> dmesg shows: >> >> bce0: mem >> 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 >> bce0: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller >> revision (B0)! >> device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 >> >> bce1: mem >> 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci5 >> bce1: /usr/src/sys/dev/bce/if_bce.c(836): Unsupported controller >> revision (B0)! >> device_attach: bce0 attach returned 19 >> >> pciconf -lv: >> >> bce0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c >> chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' >> device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter >> (BCM5708)' >> class = network >> subclass = ethernet >> >> bce1@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x7038103c >> chip=0x164c14e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' >> device = 'Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet Adapter >> (BCM5708)' >> class = network >> subclass = ethernet >> >> >> Is there a way to fix this ? >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 16:25:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A2310656B4 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3B98FC0C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E805E1EC; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:25:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.271 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.271 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.329, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id s9NgG1NcivH1; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:25:30 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD845E17C; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:25:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B3CD077.8050901@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:25:27 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> <20091231120938.GA8154@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3CC2D0.6090409@eskk.nu> <20091231160506.GA22893@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091231160506.GA22893@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:33 -0000 On 2009-12-31 17:05, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 04:27:12PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> I did a >> >> sane-find-scanner -v -v > >> > EPSON Scanner)> > > According to > [http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-backends-external.html#S-EPKOWA], > your scanner "requires DFSG non-free iscan-plugin-gt-x770". Not sure what that > means, though. Neither do I. I'll ask on the sane-devel list. > > And according to /usr/ports/graphics/sane-epkowa/Makefile, the latest version > of the driver doesn't work yet because of runtime issues, so it builds an > earlier version. It could just be that this version does not support your > scanner yet. Maybe! I'm usually not reading the Makefile, but in this case I can see the benefits ;-) Thanks for pointing it out. > > Maybe you should contact the port maintainer. > > Roland /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 16:47:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D61065676 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1C8FC1D for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVGl3q1076861; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:47:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBVGl3q7076858; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:47:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:47:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen In-Reply-To: <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <4B3B9288.4010309@eskk.nu> <20091230185846.GA85077@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BCE4A.8020709@eskk.nu> <20091230224446.GA89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3BDCEC.1010406@eskk.nu> <20091231110453.GA5044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3C8A41.806@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:47:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I find instructions on how to configure sane-epkowa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:47:05 -0000 On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > On 2009-12-31 12:04, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:06:20AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> >>> my dll.conf: >> >> Personally, I would only leave in the backends that I actually use. > > What do you mean? > >> >>> epkowa.conf >>> >>> usb 0x04b8 0x0130 For my non-epkowa Epson, I had usb /dev/ugen2.3 Maybe that doesn't matter. There is a page that talks about using the epkowa driver on Linux with some possibly relevant information: http://www.mnsoft.org/scanner_on_linux.0.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 17:40:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18576106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank.wissmann41@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC9E8FC16 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57B9143E16D6 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:40:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [77.177.34.193] (helo=grissom.einundvierzig.org) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1NQP0V-0003rs-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:40:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3CE231.1010909@web.de> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:41:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091214) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1++l40sscNJTM2GR0coPG8NI2AiqrrJFCsHmZlo L88MApEma5nEmItsgHXAHbdD5J43QNLNZJp/6F9+vyabTCJAhX KfALGehB+oywXk+OPizg== Subject: Error at "make buildworld" with sources from release and stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank.wissmann41@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:40:21 -0000 Hi all! When making the world new i get this error message: machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -p awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -q awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -h rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I/usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat/../../../cddl/compat/opensolaris -I/usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat/../../../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common -I/usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat/../../.. -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat/../../../cddl/dev/lockstat/lockstat.c /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat/../../../cddl/dev/lockstat/lockstat.c:32:25: error: opt_kdtrace.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace/lockstat. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/dtrace. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. This happens when using the sources as given with the release or if I update to RELENG-8. What is wrong here? Is something missing in the "make.conf"? Greetings til' next year :-). Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? 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(c-71-196-193-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net [71.196.193.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm13834237iwn.2.2009.12.31.09.42.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:42:07 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: James Harrison In-Reply-To: <1262197363.56204.2.camel@localhost> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:42:05 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55A26EE0-064B-4926-950F-254A6E8AFE30@gmail.com> References: <1262197363.56204.2.camel@localhost> To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mrtg broken dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:47:28 -0000 On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:22 AM 12/30/09, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello... >=20 > mrtg (net-mgmt/mrtg) misses a dependency on perl module=3D=3D=3D> > p5-SNMP_Session >=20 > in the Makefile: >=20 > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D ${SITE_PERL}/SNMP_util.pm: > ${PORTSDIR}/net-mgmt/p5-SNMP_Session >=20 > fix the problem >=20 > what next??? how to contact the mrtg port manager??? =46rom the Makefile: MAINTAINER=3D mrtg@subnets.ru >=20 > Thanks for your attention, >=20 > Sergio=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 18:00:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE27D106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1A8FC12 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so4503038ywh.7 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:00:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=aMgs+7JjgqejiV08vmBQh1uWxgvidKtB8r03bXkSbKA=; b=TSRKMd2p8ptPS72cDndDN1zlnxF62eonj5B/UMI5Ufwl4nkHRCQRt0dPeeheg+CwkQ U12KCkNDby/UPuhZ8s1V1wEbFUIygxiKcO58zzE0NJJ44B+bFO/8g5Sv/Nen1TqWpjOV MNt+eqKz+6H2NP7pLugj6QXEGBfDsPW7qeagw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=JTKOER2DUL2ab/3nJ438r2kx3k3EgIDzvrQVFzIT0gSoCAGvpqyWM0xxyoMQaBR+/V UC3HJRj9snhZG758o573h8jHLJYL4kpiG4skx0ThRIl5bf1mmPxDbE5Z7yAzi+waV73m 5js8cBKI5ygeCa8qfZP/Wwwfuq/U6VMXYSr1g= Received: by 10.101.128.18 with SMTP id f18mr29643741ann.165.1262280794076; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (c-71-196-193-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net [71.196.193.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm13868453iwn.1.2009.12.31.09.33.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:33:12 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: James Harrison In-Reply-To: <20091226034855.GA55564@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:33:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20091226034855.GA55564@bsd.remdog.net> To: Rem P Roberti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Failed port upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:00:59 -0000 On Dec 25, 2009, at 8:48 PM 12/25/09, Rem P Roberti wrote: > When running portupgrade the process is choking when it comes to > consolekit. Here is the error message: >=20 > gmake[2]: *** [libgirepository_1_0_la-gfield.lo] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > = `/usr/tmp/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection= -0.6.7/girepository' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > = `/usr/tmp/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection= -0.6.7' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portupgrade20091225-42364-180m9y8-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=3Dportupgrade > UPGRADE_PORT=3Dconsolekit-0.4.1_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=3D0.4.1_1 make > ** Fix the problem and try again. >=20 >=20 > this obviously involves gobject-introspection and polkit, both of = which > refuse to make. I could find nothing in UPDATING about this. >=20 > Rem Hey Rem, did you ever get this solved? James= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 18:22:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FDD106566C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@magnesium.net) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519EC8FC17 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by toxic.magnesium.net (Postfix, from userid 1070) id 85148DA8B6; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:05:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:05:45 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:22:22 -0000 My new server is back out of harm's way, but now, upon reboot, no mail. I have tail -f maillog and get "Domain not found" Yes, i did edit my DNS files, but I think i have a backup. Can anybody clue me in so i don't do this by mistake again? thanks. -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | kline@magnesium.net Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 18:37:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05161065676 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904338FC1D for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBV9aedu002566 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:36:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:36:40 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:14 -0000 In working toward my goal of writing a keyboard driver with builtin clicks, I'm investigating different angles. One would be to find existing audio files and catting then thru /dev/dsp. Is there a way of turning any audio file/format into a character array---in the way that a graphic can be turned into a character array? For example, I turned the graphic of a small arrow to the following: unsigned char uparrow_bits[] = { 0x80, 0x01, 0xc0, 0x03, 0xe0, 0x07, 0xf0, 0x0f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xfc, 0x3f, 0xfe, 0x7f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f}; Are there tools to do the same with a .au or .wav file? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 18:37:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E3D106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04A68FC22 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBV6AMv6001990; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:10:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:10:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091231061022.GA64561@thought.org> References: <4B3BD2EC.3050908@lazlarlyricon.com> <20091230225042.GB89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091230225042.GB89857@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_12,J_CHICKENPOX_21 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Burning an audio CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:37:21 -0000 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:50:42PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:23:40PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > > On 2009-12-30 23:08, Christian Weisgerber wrote: [[ re adapticam... ]] > > The user that runs cdrecord also requires write access to the /dev/xpt0 device > and the /dev/passN device! See devfs.conf(5) and devfs.rules(5) for making > device permissions permanent. You did have this on your website, don't you? (most things AV are over my head, so if there are cheat-sheets with examples, it helps.) gary PS: Yet-another-question on this coming up ... . > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 18:52:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816571065693 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A49A8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27523 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2009 18:52:08 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Dec 2009 18:52:08 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B666A50825; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Gary Kline References: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:52:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:36:40 -0800") Message-ID: <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:52:09 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > In working toward my goal of writing a keyboard driver with builtin > clicks, I'm investigating different angles. One would be to find > existing audio files and catting then thru /dev/dsp. > > Is there a way of turning any audio file/format into a character > array---in the way that a graphic can be turned into a character > array? > > For example, I turned the graphic of a small arrow to the following: > > unsigned char uparrow_bits[] = { > 0x80, 0x01, 0xc0, 0x03, 0xe0, 0x07, 0xf0, 0x0f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xfc, 0x3f, > 0xfe, 0x7f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f}; > > Are there tools to do the same with a .au or .wav file? od(1), but that would be silly. Just have your program open the file and read it in. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 19:10:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B93106566C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44A8FC15 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9296896; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:10:50 -0500 Received: from [216.143.146.251] (account laura@radel.com HELO Macintosh-2.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 9296890; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3CF717.7050100@radel.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:10:15 -0800 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:10:52 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > My new server is back out of harm's way, but now, upon reboot, no mail. I have > tail -f maillog and get "Domain not found" > > Yes, i did edit my DNS files, but I think i have a backup. Can anybody clue me > in so i don't do this by mistake again? thanks. > > Are we talking about ethic.thought.org? (Personally I think it's a bit arrogant of you to assume we all remember the details of your network from week to week, but I'm a grouch, and other's mileage almost certainly varies.) Is your mail server on ethic.thought.org? If so, you're probably just running into a race condition, given that your *only* nameserver for thought.org is also on ethic. Or at least your only announced nameserver. In other words, your mailserver is quite possibly starting up, attempting a dns lookup and timing out, all before your nameserver is up and running. What happens if you restart just your mailserver at this time? If that doesn't resolve the matter, give us some details about where your nameserver and mailserver live, and give us the contents of /etc/resolv.conf on the mailserver, and tell us for which e-mail addresses e-mail isn't flowing. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 19:57:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF621065676 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1F78FC17 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVJvixT005421; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:57:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:57:44 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Jon Radel Message-ID: <20091231195744.GA3733@thought.org> References: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> <4B3CF717.7050100@radel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3CF717.7050100@radel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:57:49 -0000 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:10:15AM -0800, Jon Radel wrote: > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > My new server is back out of harm's way, but now, upon reboot, no > > mail. I have tail -f maillog and get "Domain not found" > > > > Yes, i did edit my DNS files, but I think i have a backup. Can > > anybody clue me in so i don't do this by mistake again? thanks. > > > > > > Are we talking about ethic.thought.org? (Personally I think it's a bit > arrogant of you to assume we all remember the details of your network > from week to week, but I'm a grouch, and other's mileage almost > certainly varies.) > > Is your mail server on ethic.thought.org? If so, you're probably just > running into a race condition, given that your *only* nameserver for > thought.org is also on ethic. Or at least your only announced > nameserver. In other words, your mailserver is quite possibly starting > up, attempting a dns lookup and timing out, all before your nameserver > is up and running. > > What happens if you restart just your mailserver at this time? > > If that doesn't resolve the matter, give us some details about where > your nameserver and mailserver live, and give us the contents of > /etc/resolv.conf on the mailserver, and tell us for which e-mail > addresses e-mail isn't flowing. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Well, apologies all around, more or less. To resolve my DNS problems I just copied over my backup SAVED/db.thought.org to my newer, broken copy, updated the Serail njmber, and restarted things. It was a good lesson that I should NOT have ever dared to mess around with IPv6 ... but I did. And yup, after moving the server everything restarted. And that v6 stuff busted things. [ten mins later with coffee kicking in]:: a question on the nameserver stuff: given that I have only one ISP, how could I have another nameserver? ethic is DNS, mail, and web. I've got two secondary nameservers. One in Dallas, a second in England. I did restart dovecot last night; it didn't help. p0 11:44 [1031] cat resolv.conf domain thought.org nameserver 10.47.0.230 What I really think broke things was to have left the AAAA addr rec in their blindly. : NS ns1.thought.org. @ IN AAAA 2002:d1b4:d5d2:: -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 20:11:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1135D1065679 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85948FC24 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVKBH0r005501; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:11:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:11:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> References: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:11:23 -0000 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 01:52:07PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > > In working toward my goal of writing a keyboard driver with builtin > > clicks, I'm investigating different angles. One would be to find > > existing audio files and catting then thru /dev/dsp. > > > > Is there a way of turning any audio file/format into a character > > array---in the way that a graphic can be turned into a character > > array? > > > > For example, I turned the graphic of a small arrow to the following: > > > > unsigned char uparrow_bits[] = { > > 0x80, 0x01, 0xc0, 0x03, 0xe0, 0x07, 0xf0, 0x0f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xfc, 0x3f, > > 0xfe, 0x7f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f}; > > > > Are there tools to do the same with a .au or .wav file? > > od(1), but that would be silly. Just have your program open the file > and read it in. > Yeah, I views the file with od -c; but wouldn't it be much faster to have the data file part of my test program than having to open, read, cat thru /dev/dsp each time, close file? I stole the cat from the K&R book, and by reading the click.h data file it seems everything would go much faster. (I have three actual keyboard click drivers that I'm paring down, just wondering in my pre-built click file wouldn't be a better option. It's got a seriously beautiful waveform. > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 20:34:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DE2106568B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188628FC0C for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23032 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2009 20:34:20 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Dec 2009 20:34:20 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D668F50822 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1E0E61CC5D; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:34:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:11:17 -0800") Message-ID: <44ws023mt8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:34:21 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > Yeah, I views the file with od -c; but wouldn't it be much faster > to have the data file part of my test program than having to open, > read, cat thru /dev/dsp each time, close file? I stole the cat > from the K&R book, and by reading the click.h data file it seems > everything would go much faster. Faster, yes, by multiple microseconds. Save your time, not the computer's. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 20:44:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C9D1065695 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8808A8FC1E for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBVKiX23068550; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:44:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C57C7BAAB; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:44:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:44:33 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20091231204433.GA48113@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:44:38 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:11:17PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > Yeah, I views the file with od -c; but wouldn't it be much faster > to have the data file part of my test program than having to open, > read, cat thru /dev/dsp each time, close file? I stole the cat > from the K&R book, and by reading the click.h data file it seems > everything would go much faster. Just read them all once, at start-up and store them in a buffer. You could = use mmap(2), but if the sound fragments are small, that might be a waste of mem= ory becasue mmap maps at least a page. I'll send you a utility function I've written to read files into memory off= -list. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks9DTEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUkXACdER4h1yej2GkIt5zMMwC6ZWA9 7IcAmgNvDzzy42WUUWXCs1sDXysqDqQ9 =2ush -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 20:48:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A361065693 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC8F8FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9297093; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:48:20 -0500 Received: from [216.143.146.251] (account laura@radel.com HELO Macintosh-2.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 9297091; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:48:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3D0E07.7020107@radel.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:48:07 -0800 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> <4B3CF717.7050100@radel.com> <20091231195744.GA3733@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091231195744.GA3733@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:48:22 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > It was a good lesson that I should NOT have ever dared to mess > around with IPv6 ... but I did. And yup, after moving the server > everything restarted. And that v6 stuff busted things. Hmmmm...yes, putting IPv6 addresses into your DNS w/o your IPv6 network actually working does tend to break things all over the place. You really need a test server to play with rather than subjecting your main [only] server to these experiments. ;-) > > [ten mins later with coffee kicking in]:: a question on the > nameserver stuff: given that I have only one ISP, how could I have > another nameserver? ethic is DNS, mail, and web. I've got two > secondary nameservers. One in Dallas, a second in England. Well....which is it? One or three nameservers.... I find it helps to think of nameservers as being of two types: 1) Resolving nameservers These are the servers that *your* machines use to look up addresses, both your own and things like www.google.com. You can use your own server. Your ISP would also have one or more available for customer use. I'd suggest using a list of servers rather than just one. This list is what you'd set up in /etc/resolv.conf. 2) Authoritative nameservers These are the servers that tell everyone about thought.org (in your case). You say that you have one on ethic.thought.org and 2 secondaries in Dallas and England. However, given that neither your parent servers nor your own zone file as found on ethic mention those two other servers, it's very unlikely that they're doing you any good at all. (There are advanced scenarios where "hidden secondaries" are useful, but I don't think any of them apply to your network.) BTW, a single install of a name server on a single machine is perfectly capable of acting as both a resolving and an authoritative server, but it still helps, IMHO, to consider it as serving two different roles. (All of which leaves aside the security issues involved....) I would suggest you find out what servers your ISP makes available as resolving servers for customers, and use ethic followed by those servers in resolv.conf and other such setup. I would suggest you find out if those secondary servers are actually syncing the data from ethic, and if so, list them with your domain registrar and in NS records in your dns zone. With those two steps, dns as a whole will become a bit more resilient for you. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 21:40:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA5C1065676 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686268FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVLdtYp006111; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:39:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:39:55 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091231213955.GC3733@thought.org> References: <20091231093637.GA1832@thought.org> <447hs3kmco.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20091231201117.GB3733@thought.org> <20091231204433.GA48113@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091231204433.GA48113@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_12, J_CHICKENPOX_21, J_CHICKENPOX_54 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a way to convert an audio file into a char array? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:40:06 -0000 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 09:44:33PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:11:17PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Yeah, I views the file with od -c; but wouldn't it be much faster > > to have the data file part of my test program than having to open, > > read, cat thru /dev/dsp each time, close file? I stole the cat > > from the K&R book, and by reading the click.h data file it seems > > everything would go much faster. > > Just read them all once, at start-up and store them in a buffer. You could use > mmap(2), but if the sound fragments are small, that might be a waste of memory > becasue mmap maps at least a page. Well, Lowell's thinking right be dead-on if this were just for my own use, but considering that I found 3 unix-type click-drivers, this "need," however limited, exists. Below are a few of the misc noise files I've collected over the years. I'm not that famaliar with mmap, but below are the click files I have so far. the Sun's are a flat, Klick. It's a dull thud-like sound while the other one, click.* are a nice, solid thunk. There is a trailing fuzz in the after-echo. that hopefully I'll be able to edit out. Then it will be the thunk with a brief after-echo. The Sun produces a brief 0.1s BUMP, the click is this neat 0.2 thunk.... This is full-audio [koff-koff]; I'll play around with MP3 and see if the resulting click.wave can be shortened. It occured to me than this click might be too slow for a touch-typist who can do 80 or 120wpm. Or anyone who can do up to 40-60wpm. But then, you are probably watching the screen, not the keyboard. Can easily see if you've hit the key(s). 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 914 Sep 4 2005 Klick.au 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 1808 Dec 31 01:15 Klick.wav 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 1263 Sep 16 1997 click.au 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 1275 Sep 16 1997 click.wav If I had thought of this use-prefab clicks back in 1999 rather than the BEL, problem solving. ...Still, my disk crashed the following morning, so it ---- well, whatever:_) > > I'll send you a utility function I've written to read files into memory off-list. > Super, thanks, gary > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 22:29:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F97106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FB58FC08 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so8888492pwi.3 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:29:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=QPLKS+HJSFDDxC8cAW6tFO0BoUhSj+90c7/qpfRXBTw=; b=NKXOWt618bMnBmwgWQRv9d1+BXLtArE4gNRiL+m5GLnycd3a2JFk5mwGbzVKnCWagX BcieEvsbvhwJQ09AFmP6+tDqnFG19eW3beTIWQDXxKTa29YCwPBiGUJPSpuiK5wwGkx1 y95L7G5Lnv4QS6zBME/p9qKQEKGBXJXOrduNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AbaS0hAdOGilAujS8H0HtaQSVyHUpMWlFHebnMgV0UV39svZegPkytPbtSG0r0ZrHV lSYkwA2P7cJSGooClJx0no1ihCHwn/Fb6Ez+6bJR0w2ltPubtqHRULluLmUy5R5e+4R9 N5qm6Cfjye/vyFAbgUKEQEby3xj2YoRZca/Rc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.6 with SMTP id o6mr8027432wfa.342.1262298546354; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:29:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:29:06 -0800 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0912311429r6474b656q5a88531a57e1723c@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Fax Solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:29:08 -0000 This is a wide open question, but if anyone has any experience or comments with respect to using FreeBSD for sending/receiving faxes, I'd be grateful to hear them. Hylafax is available in ports, and the website makes mention of some compatible hardware, but I thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 22:33:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073CA106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09148FC1E for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVMXHue006722; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:33:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:33:16 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Jon Radel Message-ID: <20091231223316.GD3733@thought.org> References: <20091231180545.GA41589@thought.org> <4B3CF717.7050100@radel.com> <20091231195744.GA3733@thought.org> <4B3D0E07.7020107@radel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3D0E07.7020107@radel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:33:22 -0000 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:48:07PM -0800, Jon Radel wrote: > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > It was a good lesson that I should NOT have ever dared to mess > > around with IPv6 ... but I did. And yup, after moving the server > > everything restarted. And that v6 stuff busted things. > > Hmmmm...yes, putting IPv6 addresses into your DNS w/o your IPv6 network > actually working does tend to break things all over the place. > > You really need a test server to play with rather than subjecting your > main [only] server to these experiments. ;-) > Hm. If live 'n' learn is the best teacher, than my experiences last night were worthy. > > > > > [ten mins later with coffee kicking in]:: a question on the > > nameserver stuff: given that I have only one ISP, how could I have > > another nameserver? ethic is DNS, mail, and web. I've got two > > secondary nameservers. One in Dallas, a second in England. > > Well....which is it? One or three nameservers.... > > I find it helps to think of nameservers as being of two types: > > 1) Resolving nameservers > > These are the servers that *your* machines use to look up addresses, > both your own and things like www.google.com. You can use your own > server. Your ISP would also have one or more available for customer > use. I'd suggest using a list of servers rather than just one. This > list is what you'd set up in /etc/resolv.conf. > > 2) Authoritative nameservers > > These are the servers that tell everyone about thought.org (in your > case). You say that you have one on ethic.thought.org and 2 secondaries > in Dallas and England. However, given that neither your parent servers > nor your own zone file as found on ethic mention those two other > servers, it's very unlikely that they're doing you any good at all. > (There are advanced scenarios where "hidden secondaries" are useful, but > I don't think any of them apply to your network.) Would it help if I send you my named.conf. And my master/thought.org database file...? I don't think it would 'hurt' to share m y configuration, but why spent the bandwidth? From what I See, ethic is my SOA. Ethic is my primary [ns1.thought.org]. Steve Bertrand said that I am missing including 'thought.org' A record from the database file. SO I followed his example and added the ^@ IN A 209.180.213.210 (along with my AAAA address record :( ) I have left out my own A record for the time being.... Jon Horne's DFW site as well as Daniel Bye's secondary are listed in named.conf. Note that two years ago when everything began collapsing--mail, and the web, this guy in Dallas came to my rescue. Now that I am reorganizing *again*, I would like to have things done right. I won't even breath on the Dell. Actually, I can't now that it's back in the corner! > > BTW, a single install of a name server on a single machine is perfectly > capable of acting as both a resolving and an authoritative server, but > it still helps, IMHO, to consider it as serving two different roles. > (All of which leaves aside the security issues involved....) I have my DSL thru the telco, USQuest or Quest. I have a set of 5 IPs from them. For some reason, Quest consider me as a business, [???], but their service has been pretty good so far. Having a second line from them or another provider might make sense if I were making money from this. Nada. > > I would suggest you find out what servers your ISP makes available as > resolving servers for customers, and use ethic followed by those servers > in resolv.conf and other such setup. > > I would suggest you find out if those secondary servers are actually > syncing the data from ethic, and if so, list them with your domain > registrar and in NS records in your dns zone. > > With those two steps, dns as a whole will become a bit more resilient > for you. Thanks for the advice. I'll see if Quest says what secondaries they have. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 23:11:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182271065670 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84568FC18 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBVNB8cJ006901 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:11:08 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091231231104.GA4522@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: HNW, everybody. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:11:12 -0000 to everybody, happy new years..... hoping that 2010 is [much] better year. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 23:31:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524C7106566B for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank.wissmann41@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148B68FC0A for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7009143E5761; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:31:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [77.177.34.193] (helo=grissom.einundvierzig.org) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1NQUUL-0000YH-00; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:31:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4B3D347F.2080901@web.de> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:32:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Wi=DFmann?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091214) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091231231104.GA4522@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091231231104.GA4522@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+WQtYnR8BcjQUAzcVMBYWV+0fvbrjzNY6JBl+L y0gL3dFtoXrlEIGPwK6JeqFd/utKaVeVYv76ex9pcKEPB5cB6f 5E8gZ13Wu4sDsEuljNNA== Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: HNW, everybody. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank.wissmann41@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:31:31 -0000 Gary Kline schrieb: > to everybody, happy new years..... > hoping that 2010 is [much] better year. > Same to you. In Germany it is now 2010. Greetings to all. Frank -- GU d- s:+ a+ C+>$ UBS>$ P L- !E--- W N+@ !o K--? !w--- O !M- !V- PS+ PE Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? When pack meets pack in the jungle and no one will move from the trail wait till the leaders have spoken it may be fair words shall prevail (Rudyard Kipling)