From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 03:30:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866AD10657C7 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41D6E8FC27 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.200.227] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2009 03:17:23 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.68] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2009 03:17:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp420.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2009 03:17:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922663.74152.bm@omp420.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77128 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2009 03:17:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238296651; bh=Y5CsrWJunGRNWlsjO4Fba3S8jgg2VJt4Oc4l4moNh+o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v+XxY4TGOQZhIEyxz/Cb1aDT+QuuX6XPMmei5PxQZNuTsOql97xVx2R5BI0Thraa+ULoTUJ6Agxsx2x/Md2b2i/pqAzzk4Z0ZuVg04pkzjb/QCAQ7gK8wdFoT+BnNaXUuqPCT+stOeyV5DNvNohHnBF934Nbl0Sv+1wHUvnNm88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zKfwmfEvCKi+qkPOAZDYBWmT/pTP9FblD8xXMuyYLluBMc7C5quCehRGjOPST0yHPEOol1kaWYKQf7pGUY8SY4p6LImmcQYq0Tmf6lqeo7FZ9S2S2zILfsBprdTDRaNIFZeuygJNmwEfuH1uG7JSRJvtEHuaCUE1T1nhn5sRypM=; Message-ID: <457449.75324.qm@web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8PJyrz4VM1lD5j4FrNVi2xq23Ph2KTADOWEphCEsGc8GN_8aVrhUPMFHQ4XmQlnfQqEeVj2u7pmQHh98OuA8FQqp8_pyXSdWe3D2UHGH_uwN3tsDlwDf57iIajah2s3KHs_RgCNDW1rx6JFayBAjX9eiCegPOlFo3EEzMXw6mgjRqE7yy2it3hLtqQFJHKmhgBvSl7jfcrnOzQt2ypGgQrqtFMQ4RsCMMT_DHPR.T7.bNLQ4ZoY- Received: from [71.63.232.32] by web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:17:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:17:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Mianovich To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: quick questions RE: Intel Integrated Server RAID and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:30:27 -0000 (originally posted in freebsd-fs, but on second thought I think this is the appropriate list) Hello, I am considering this motherboard: http://www.intel.com/products/server/motherboards/S5000PSL/S5000PSL-overview.htm The Intel S5000 PSL Server board, with "Intel Integrated Server RAID". I plan on using the onboard raid for a simple boot mirror. I have two quick questions: 1. What chipset/controller is this "Intel Integrated Server RAID" and is it well supported in FreeBSD ? Will sysinstall recognize it ? Is there a CLI tool ofr viewing status once FreeBSD is running ? 2. Is this _real_ hardware raid ? As in, FreeBSD will know _nothing_ about the raid and will simply see one disk (which is a mirror) ? I am seeing discussion that I don't understand about how this is somehow software raid, but If it's all built on the board ... ? Performance isn't a real issue since it is just a boot mirror. I just want to hide the raid layer from the OS and do my raid work (rebuilds, etc.) through the BIOS. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 06:42:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE14106566B; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FB98FC0C; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1LnojH-0006l9-Pu; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:42:47 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Scott Long In-reply-to: <49CEB652.8060003@samsco.org> References: <49CCDA41.4060101@samsco.org> <49CCF95F.1050307@samsco.org> <49CEB652.8060003@samsco.org> Comments: In-reply-to Scott Long message dated "Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:44:18 -0600." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:42:47 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr driver broken since March 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:42:50 -0000 > Danny Braniss wrote: > > it seems March 12 was a bit off :-) > > it took some time, but I managed to close the gap: > > 189100 ok > > 189150 fails > > I will continue tomorrow, but this should be helpful. > > > > > > 189150 is in the middle of a big string of related commits. Try > updating to the following change numbers and retesting: > > 189088 > 189107 > 189161 > > If the last one does not work, try editing /sys/dev/amr/amr.c to change > > #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 1 > > to > > #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 0 > > Scott 189161 works, also for the iir now what? danny From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 06:52:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AEF106564A; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA41A8FC12; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2T6q4uu069123; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:52:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <49CF1A94.6040703@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:52:04 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Braniss References: <49CCDA41.4060101@samsco.org> <49CCF95F.1050307@samsco.org> <49CEB652.8060003@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr driver broken since March 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:52:40 -0000 Danny Braniss wrote: >> Danny Braniss wrote: >>> it seems March 12 was a bit off :-) >>> it took some time, but I managed to close the gap: >>> 189100 ok >>> 189150 fails >>> I will continue tomorrow, but this should be helpful. >>> >>> >> 189150 is in the middle of a big string of related commits. Try >> updating to the following change numbers and retesting: >> >> 189088 >> 189107 >> 189161 >> >> If the last one does not work, try editing /sys/dev/amr/amr.c to change >> >> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 1 >> >> to >> >> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 0 >> >> Scott > > 189161 works, also for the iir > now what? > Next set to try: 189219 189229 189253 189402 189531 189569 189591 Scott From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 08:00:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D4106564A; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485458FC14; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1Lnpwd-0007sp-9W; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Scott Long In-reply-to: <49CF1A94.6040703@samsco.org> References: <49CCDA41.4060101@samsco.org> <49CCF95F.1050307@samsco.org> <49CEB652.8060003@samsco.org> <49CF1A94.6040703@samsco.org> Comments: In-reply-to Scott Long message dated "Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:52:04 -0600." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr driver broken since March 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:00:42 -0000 > Danny Braniss wrote: > >> Danny Braniss wrote: > >>> it seems March 12 was a bit off :-) > >>> it took some time, but I managed to close the gap: > >>> 189100 ok > >>> 189150 fails > >>> I will continue tomorrow, but this should be helpful. > >>> > >>> > >> 189150 is in the middle of a big string of related commits. Try > >> updating to the following change numbers and retesting: > >> > >> 189088 > >> 189107 > >> 189161 > >> > >> If the last one does not work, try editing /sys/dev/amr/amr.c to change > >> > >> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 1 > >> > >> to > >> > >> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 0 > >> > >> Scott > > > > 189161 works, also for the iir > > now what? > > > > Next set to try: > > 189219 broken > 189229 broken any point in going on? danny > 189253 > 189402 > 189531 > 189569 > 189591 > > Scott From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 14:23:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE4A106566B; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05CD8FC1A; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2TEMg27070727; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:22:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <49CF8432.5090201@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:22:42 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Braniss References: <49CCDA41.4060101@samsco.org> <49CCF95F.1050307@samsco.org> <49CEB652.8060003@samsco.org> <49CF1A94.6040703@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr driver broken since March 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:23:19 -0000 Danny Braniss wrote: >> Danny Braniss wrote: >>>> Danny Braniss wrote: >>>>> it seems March 12 was a bit off :-) >>>>> it took some time, but I managed to close the gap: >>>>> 189100 ok >>>>> 189150 fails >>>>> I will continue tomorrow, but this should be helpful. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> 189150 is in the middle of a big string of related commits. Try >>>> updating to the following change numbers and retesting: >>>> >>>> 189088 >>>> 189107 >>>> 189161 >>>> >>>> If the last one does not work, try editing /sys/dev/amr/amr.c to change >>>> >>>> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 1 >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> #define AMR_ENABLE_CAM 0 >>>> >>>> Scott >>> 189161 works, also for the iir >>> now what? >>> >> Next set to try: >> >> 189219 > broken >> 189229 > broken Ok, so 189161 works, 189219 doesn't, correct? If so, did you also make the change to amr.c yet? Scott From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 18:05:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CC8106566B for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-scsi@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3678FC12 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-scsi@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LnyWI-0007K8-Is for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:10:02 +0000 Received: from 93-138-15-116.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.138.15.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:10:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 93-138-15-116.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:10:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:08:07 +0200 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <457449.75324.qm@web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5043248AA80AA3CCE87FEC3A" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-138-15-116.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <457449.75324.qm@web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: quick questions RE: Intel Integrated Server RAID and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:05:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5043248AA80AA3CCE87FEC3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juri Mianovich wrote: > 1. What chipset/controller is this "Intel Integrated Server RAID" and i= s it well supported in FreeBSD ? Will sysinstall recognize it ? Is ther= e a CLI tool ofr viewing > status once FreeBSD is running ? AFAIK (I don't use it) it's recognized but people often have problems with it. > 2. Is this _real_ hardware raid ? As in, FreeBSD will know _nothing_ a= bout the raid and will simply see one disk (which is a mirror) ? I am se= eing discussion that I > don't understand about how this is somehow software raid, but If it's a= ll built on the board ... ? No, it's a soft-RAID, driven by ataraid. --------------enig5043248AA80AA3CCE87FEC3A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknPuQcACgkQldnAQVacBciBKgCgqP57fTqEPtb9LERVjM+KhBtH mA8AnRGy4f9spnGezTT7oEheR+w4sh7k =pMlp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5043248AA80AA3CCE87FEC3A-- From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 29 23:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9173106566B for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from stealth.jnielsen.net (jnielsendotnet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:7:4d5::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529CA8FC16 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (stilap.local [172.17.2.18]) by stealth.jnielsen.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2TN02ph064244; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:00:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:00:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <457449.75324.qm@web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <457449.75324.qm@web45609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903291900.01865.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (stealth.jnielsen.net [172.17.2.21]); Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Juri Mianovich Subject: Re: quick questions RE: Intel Integrated Server RAID and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:00:04 -0000 On Saturday 28 March 2009 11:17:31 pm Juri Mianovich wrote: > The Intel S5000 PSL Server board, with "Intel Integrated Server RAID". > I plan on using the onboard raid for a simple boot mirror. > > I have two quick questions: > > 1. What chipset/controller is this "Intel Integrated Server RAID" and > is it well supported in FreeBSD ? Will sysinstall recognize it ? Is > there a CLI tool ofr viewing status once FreeBSD is running ? I'm not sure about the specific controller but it looks like it should be supported. If you set up a mirror in the BIOS before booting sysinstall it will likely be recognized as ar0. Note that the individual disks will ALSO be visible. atacontrol / ataraid are the tools you would use to administer such a thing. > 2. Is this _real_ hardware raid ? As in, FreeBSD will know _nothing_ > about the raid and will simply see one disk (which is a mirror) ? I am > seeing discussion that I don't understand about how this is somehow > software raid, but If it's all built on the board ... ? This is software RAID. The BIOS knows enough to manipulate and boot from arrays, and if you use the Intel driver / software on Windows it will do its thing there as well. The two pieces of software use the same metadata, etc. so the transition is more or less seamless as long as the driver and related services are installed and working properly under Windows. Under FreeBSD, the Intel metadata format is one of many understood and supported by the ataraid(4) driver, which basically just extends ata(4). You should be able to boot, monitor array status and make repairs using atacontrol and friends. > Performance isn't a real issue since it is just a boot mirror. I just > want to hide the raid layer from the OS and do my raid work (rebuilds, > etc.) through the BIOS. I haven't used this particular board but I have used Intel RAID in the past and share the view that software RAID is best handled at the OS level and not at the driver/BIOS level. You as the administrator have a better idea of and more control over what is going on, plus your RAID format (and therefore future integrity) is not tied to one vendor (or line, or specific card, etc.). FreeBSD's gmirror (geom_mirror) is an excellent tool; well-documented and well-integrated into the OS. It is possible to boot from gmirror volumes, monitor array status manually or automatically (via periodic scripts), etc. The only compelling potential reasons I can think of to use the onboard RAID are: 1) You need to see the same volumes across multiple OS'es (FreeBSD and Windows for example). Windows obviously doesn't understand FreeBSD's gmirror, etc (but it probably doesn't understand the filesystem either..). Since you didn't mention Windows I don't expect this is an issue. 2) You want to install to an array directly from sysinstall without any manual prep. Since you did mention sysinstall this could be more relevant. Unfortunately the currently shipping installer doesn't offer anything in the way of creating RAID or other non-vanilla volumes. The most straightforward way around this is to prep the gmirror disk(s) before running sysinstall by booting to a rescue CD or attaching the disk(s) to a system currently running FreeBSD, Or you can install FreeBSD to the primary disk, manually create your mirror and partitions on the secondary disk, dump/restore everything over, switch boot order and insert the former primary into the array. IIRC PC-BSD supports RAID creation at boot time, so that might give you more options. HTH, JN From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 30 11:07:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405011065670 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2498B8FC3B for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2UB70Lq054897 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:07:00 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n2UB6x7q054893 for freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:06:59 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:06:59 GMT Message-Id: <200903301106.n2UB6x7q054893@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:07:01 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o amd64/132394 scsi [isp] - bad underruns with QLogic qla2300 and amd64 o kern/132250 scsi [ciss] ciss driver does not support more then 15 drive o kern/132206 scsi [mpt] system panics on boot when mirroring and 2nd dri o kern/131032 scsi [panic] hald causing panic in scsi_sg o kern/130735 scsi [cam] [patch] pass M_NOWAIT to the malloc() call insid o kern/130621 scsi [mpt] tranfer rate is inscrutable slow when use lsi213 o kern/129602 scsi [ahd] ahd(4) gets confused and wedges SCSI bus o kern/128452 scsi [sa] [panic] Accessing SCSI tape drive randomly crashe o kern/128245 scsi [scsi] "inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step" [re o kern/127927 scsi [isp] isp(4) target driver crashes kernel when set up o kern/126866 scsi [isp] [panic] kernel panic on card initialization o kern/124667 scsi [amd] [panic] FreeBSD-7 kernel page faults at amd-scsi o kern/123674 scsi [ahc] ahc driver dumping o kern/123666 scsi [aac] attach fails with Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 controll o sparc/121676 scsi [iscsi] iscontrol do not connect iscsi-target on sparc o kern/120487 scsi [sg] scsi_sg incompatible with scanners o kern/120247 scsi [mpt] FreeBSD 6.3 and LSI Logic 1030 = only 3.300MB/s o kern/119668 scsi [cam] [patch] certain errors are too verbose comparing o kern/114597 scsi [sym] System hangs at SCSI bus reset with dual HBAs o kern/110847 scsi [ahd] Tyan U320 onboard problem with more than 3 disks o kern/99954 scsi [ahc] reading from DVD failes on 6.x [regression] o kern/94838 scsi Kernel panic while mounting SD card with lock switch o o kern/92798 scsi [ahc] SCSI problem with timeouts o kern/90282 scsi [sym] SCSI bus resets cause loss of ch device o kern/76178 scsi [ahd] Problem with ahd and large SCSI Raid system o kern/74627 scsi [ahc] [hang] Adaptec 2940U2W Can't boot 5.3 s kern/61165 scsi [panic] kernel page fault after calling cam_send_ccb o kern/60641 scsi [sym] Sporadic SCSI bus resets with 53C810 under load o kern/60598 scsi wire down of scsi devices conflicts with config s kern/57398 scsi [mly] Current fails to install on mly(4) based RAID di o kern/52638 scsi [panic] SCSI U320 on SMP server won't run faster than o kern/44587 scsi dev/dpt/dpt.h is missing defines required for DPT_HAND o kern/40895 scsi wierd kernel / device driver bug o kern/39388 scsi ncr/sym drivers fail with 53c810 and more than 256MB m o kern/38828 scsi [dpt] [request] DPT PM2012B/90 doesn't work o kern/35234 scsi World access to /dev/pass? (for scanner) requires acce 36 problems total. From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 30 12:29:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA381065698 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ECD8FC22 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so1431662waf.27 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:29:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DM9roZHzrmXcAMSvi5S4VRJUsB9icr+HlzrSEXxDgqo=; b=wxGpzGbN/Wpm6KwnpMjNvnMIMc93vqSWGrWSEuUwMBJ+ZRGou3l7NohejzWB2XVaFE +0LZ8XIL9T2wHkcYZYwb4+tRglOfFo9wW0mbDZX+pTMQ9H0mNtt9nEvVV2HvE38aggKe 9bxDjqnQcejLqgqTnJEYSbG9WuCliwd162p8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fto+TfXSU78myyz/hbsunKg0ub8wAzm0n7XQ0EV56DozsTTzqY3+YM/OJci6wEyS7P fyXOqOH78UZ9MrgNJyPm9kTR7oLWrcbUh8b3PjtpW9NRIGOmFTGFDgs1dVHNILrIXbg7 fkxcMx/KgRi3H99Tn3UOY2xGedmRYKbGnowZM= Received: by 10.114.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr3532248wac.132.1238414888234; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([213.152.137.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm18430169pog.8.2009.03.30.05.08.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D0A829.1070702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:08:25 +0400 From: Vladimir Ermakov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: aac does not respond with SCHED_ULE X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:29:19 -0000 continuation of the old topic http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2009-March/028037.html Hi, all. Describe my problem: Using the logical drive (RAID-10) on Adaptec 5805 [firmware build: 16501]. Try to read a file from this logical drive. As a result, the controller does not respond. I found a reason. The problem in using the scheduler SCHED_ULE with the aac driver. Shows the results of my experiments. system | scheduler | operation | result 7.1-RELEASE amd64 | SCHED_ULE | read a file | failed (controller does not respond) 7.1-RELEASE amd64 | SCHED_4BSD | read a file | passed ===================================== # uname -a FreeBSD sys3 7.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p4 #8: Mon Mar 30 11:38:10 CEST 2009 root@sys3:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYS3 amd64 # cat /var/db/mysql/ibdata1 > /dev/null # less /var/log/messages Mar 22 20:20:12 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808599e0 TIMEOUT AFTER 50 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:12 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808569c0 TIMEOUT AFTER 50 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:32 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff80859dd0 TIMEOUT AFTER 70 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:32 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808599e0 TIMEOUT AFTER 70 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:32 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808569c0 TIMEOUT AFTER 70 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:52 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff80859dd0 TIMEOUT AFTER 90 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:52 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808599e0 TIMEOUT AFTER 90 SECONDS Mar 22 20:20:52 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808569c0 TIMEOUT AFTER 90 SECONDS Mar 22 20:21:12 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff80859dd0 TIMEOUT AFTER 111 SECONDS Mar 22 20:21:12 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808599e0 TIMEOUT AFTER 111 SECONDS Mar 22 20:21:12 sys3 kernel: aac0: COMMAND 0xffffffff808569c0 TIMEOUT AFTER 111 SECONDS # arcconf GETCONFIG 1 Controllers found: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Controller information ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Controller Status : Optimal Channel description : SAS/SATA Controller Model : Adaptec 5805 Controller Serial Number : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Physical Slot : 6 Temperature : 82 C/ 179 F (Normal) Installed memory : 512 MB Copyback : Disabled Background consistency check : Disabled Automatic Failover : Enabled Global task priority : High Performance Mode : Default/Dynamic Stayawake period : Disabled Spinup limit internal drives : 0 Spinup limit external drives : 0 Defunct disk drive count : 0 Logical devices/Failed/Degraded : 1/0/0 -------------------------------------------------------- Controller Version Information -------------------------------------------------------- BIOS : 5.2-0 (16501) Firmware : 5.2-0 (16501) Driver : 5.2-0 (16501) Boot Flash : 5.2-0 (16501) -------------------------------------------------------- Controller Battery Information -------------------------------------------------------- Status : Optimal Over temperature : No Capacity remaining : 100 percent Time remaining (at current draw) : 1 days, 20 hours, 7 minutes *** THX /Vladimir Ermakov From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 30 13:10:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD181065680 for ; 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b=S182lEmnMJS5hlCK9pWdjtuvZxgysiq8RhSIPGU6SjsnwUSxH3uGwarnGENVqjVjYC YsnV5SCAxaraHk+BhujGZfm9zqmzthkCM0OdbSWjrj/7hDrF/qjCgwmm5X7LafX+rshj E8HDneDGAXn2SPh5Chs3FVDgOS33R4lK8tew8= Received: by 10.114.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr3579367way.89.1238418624110; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([213.152.137.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m29sm14930327poh.6.2009.03.30.06.10.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D0B6C0.6070106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:10:40 +0400 From: Vladimir Ermakov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org References: <49D0A829.1070702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D0A829.1070702@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: aac does not respond with SCHED_ULE X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:10:26 -0000 Vladimir Ermakov wrote: > continuation of the old topic > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2009-March/028037.html > > Hi, all. > > Describe my problem: > Using the logical drive (RAID-10) on Adaptec 5805 [firmware build: > 16501]. Try to read a file from this logical drive. As a result, the > controller does not respond. > > I found a reason. The problem in using the scheduler SCHED_ULE with > the aac driver. > Shows the results of my experiments. > > system | scheduler | operation | result > 7.1-RELEASE amd64 | SCHED_ULE | read a file | failed (controller > does not respond) > 7.1-RELEASE amd64 | SCHED_4BSD | read a file | passed > sorry, my experiment with 7.1-RELEASE amd64 (SCHED_4BSD) is crashed # ls -halt ibdata1 -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 256G Mar 22 23:23 ibdata1 # cat ibdata1 | pv -brt > /dev/null 13GB 0:01:15 [ 0B/s ] controller does not respond, system -> freeze differences: system | result 7.1-RELEASE amd64 with SCHED_ULE | read only 6.5GB of file 7.1-RELEASE amd64 with SCHED_4BSD | read only 13GB of file /Vladimir Ermakov