From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 05:45:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1978C1065675 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 05:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from mail.bitpusher.com (mail.bitpusher.com [208.75.56.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046138FC16 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 05:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from [192.168.1.246] (c-71-227-202-191.hsd1.or.comcast.net [71.227.202.191]) by mail.bitpusher.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC504C058 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:24:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <495DA524.7060000@foster.cc> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:24:52 -0800 From: Mark Foster User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vuxml updates, cont. X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:45:13 -0000 Following up on a previous post about who to Cc: for vuxml updates. As it was left, we were supposed to cc: freebsd-vuxml list it seems. Well I signed up for the list weeks ago and after confirming, was told my request was sent to the moderator for approval (nectar@?). I have not heard back. Eygene is the only poster to that list in months. Please open the list to public or get the moderator back in the loop. Also it is completely unclear whether secteam@ still wants to receive vuxml update submissions. My guess is not, but guesswork is silly. -- Realization #2031: That the "meaning of life" is now just another Google search. Mark D. Foster http://mark.foster.cc/ | http://conshell.net/ From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 10:30:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B810D1065670 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (websrv01.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792898FC19 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from [195.64.94.120] (helo=[10.0.2.153]) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LIgt8-000Kbw-92; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:04:18 +0100 Message-Id: From: Remko Lodder To: Mark Foster In-Reply-To: <495DA524.7060000@foster.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:04:13 +0100 References: <495DA524.7060000@foster.cc> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, secteam@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vuxml updates, cont. X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:30:04 -0000 On Jan 2, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Mark Foster wrote: > Following up on a previous post about who to Cc: for vuxml updates. > > As it was left, we were supposed to cc: freebsd-vuxml list it seems. > Well I signed up for the list weeks ago and after confirming, was > told my request was sent to the moderator for approval (nectar@?). > I have not heard back. > Eygene is the only poster to that list in months. > > Please open the list to public or get the moderator back in the loop. > > Also it is completely unclear whether secteam@ still wants to > receive vuxml update submissions. My guess is not, but guesswork is > silly. Why would you guess it's not? We try to document as much as possible, so every contribution to the VuXML document is appreciated. Please do not think that we do not need VuXML updates :) One of the reasons that might tell why the -vuxml list isn't being used that much, is because we get few VuXML contributions from others, and if we do get them they are mostly attached in port-pr's which are then submitted to our team for evalution. There are a number of people doing it like that and that also works out fine. So I believe that we do want to receive VuXML updates on secteam@ If you have questions about the FreeBSD Security Team / VuXML please let me/us know. Thanks, Remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 15:43:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAD41065670 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from mail.bitpusher.com (mail.bitpusher.com [208.75.56.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759FD8FC1A for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from [10.2.1.103] (dsl254-013-253.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.253]) by mail.bitpusher.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78FA4C05C; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:43:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <495E363B.30708@foster.cc> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:43:55 -0800 From: Mark Foster User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remko Lodder References: <495DA524.7060000@foster.cc> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, secteam@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vuxml updates, cont. X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:43:56 -0000 Remko Lodder wrote: > Why would you guess it's not? > > We try to document as much as possible, so every contribution to the > VuXML document is appreciated. Please do not think that we do not need > VuXML updates :) No, I really think there needs to be much more, that it is always a game of catch-up. > One of the reasons that might tell why the -vuxml list isn't being > used that much, is because we get few VuXML contributions from others, > and if we do get them they are mostly attached in port-pr's which are > then submitted to our team for evalution. There are a number of people > doing it like that and that also works out fine. > > So I believe that we do want to receive VuXML updates on secteam@ > Good enough, so I will Cc: secteam@ on vuxml updates and when/if approved for freebsd-vuxml@ start cc: that too. Thanks! -- Realization #2031: That the "meaning of life" is now just another Google search. Mark D. Foster http://mark.foster.cc/ | http://conshell.net/