From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:13:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9748B1065670; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::1c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773248FC0C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D197D11401C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (not verified)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191CFE6075; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P1DmHe060610; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:13:48 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: FreeBSD Stable From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:10:44 -0800." <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:13:48 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mx.isc.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, lev@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:13:54 -0000 In message <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > Hello, Freebsd-stable. > > > > BIND on my new router (7.1-STABLE, BIND 9.4.3-P1) shows bunch of > > errors on every start and doesn't answer on requests for 30-60 seconds > > after that. Errors are like this: > > It's not necessary or desirable to paste in so many examples of the > same message. It's also not good to cross post the same message to > multiple lists. > > > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib > /bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1567: unexpected error: > > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: internal_send: 193.0.14.129#53: Device > not configured > > That message is fairly clear, the system has told named that it can > talk to the outside world, but there isn't anything there for named to > talk to. As you already pointed out in another message, the IP > addresses are for the root name servers. The first thing named does > when it starts up is to verify the information in the hints file. > > > Main problem is, that mount_nfs failed on startup on this router > > because bind is not ready due to these errors and all system goes to > > single-user mode :( > > Any time you are using NFS you should maintain the addresses of the > critical hosts in /etc/hosts. Yes, I realize that's anachronistic > (especially for a DNS guy) but it works. Obviously you should make > sure to update them as needed. Or keep a local copy of the zone which contains them. If you have a copy in /etc/hosts there should be procedures to keep /etc/hosts in sync with the DNS. > > Computer is Soekris net5501, with 6 network interfaces (vr0-vr3 on > > board, em0 and ath0 attached). Only vr0 and vr1 are used, but adding > > fake addresses to vr2 and vr3 doesn't help at all. > > > > Also, mpd5 creates two NG interfaces (ng0 and ng1) on startup to connect t > o two > > providers. > > > > But previous installation (on faster hardware) doesn't show these > > errors at all! > > I've never used mpd myself, but you might want to try adding the > following line to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mpd and see if it helps: > > # BEFORE: named mpd should also be fixed as the error code being returned is not approprate. network unreachable is what should be returned. > Doug > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:19:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF28E1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4622B8FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 4113 invoked by uid 399); 25 Jan 2009 01:19:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.19?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 25 Jan 2009 01:19:09 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:19:40 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Andrews References: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lev@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:11 -0000 Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: >> Any time you are using NFS you should maintain the addresses of the >> critical hosts in /etc/hosts. Yes, I realize that's anachronistic >> (especially for a DNS guy) but it works. Obviously you should make >> sure to update them as needed. > > Or keep a local copy of the zone which contains them. I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given the situation described. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:42:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6516106566B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::1c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69B88FC16; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D353A114039; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (not verified)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB23E6074; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P1gHv9060982; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:42:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200901250142.n0P1gHv9060982@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Doug Barton From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:19:40 -0800." <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:42:17 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mx.isc.org Cc: lev@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:42:23 -0000 In message <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > >> Any time you are using NFS you should maintain the addresses of the > >> critical hosts in /etc/hosts. Yes, I realize that's anachronistic > >> (especially for a DNS guy) but it works. Obviously you should make > >> sure to update them as needed. > > > > Or keep a local copy of the zone which contains them. > > I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me > whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given > the situation described. named will always answer for local zones. b.t.w. BIND 9 primes when it attempts to recurse for the first time. > Doug > This .signature sanitized for your protection -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:45:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A34106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40398FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 30274 invoked by uid 399); 25 Jan 2009 01:45:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.19?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 25 Jan 2009 01:45:52 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497BC46E.8020209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:46:22 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Andrews References: <200901250142.n0P1gHv9060982@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <200901250142.n0P1gHv9060982@drugs.dv.isc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lev@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:45:53 -0000 Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: >> Mark Andrews wrote: >>> In message <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: >>>> Any time you are using NFS you should maintain the addresses of the >>>> critical hosts in /etc/hosts. Yes, I realize that's anachronistic >>>> (especially for a DNS guy) but it works. Obviously you should make >>>> sure to update them as needed. >>> Or keep a local copy of the zone which contains them. >> I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me >> whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given >> the situation described. > > named will always answer for local zones. > > b.t.w. BIND 9 primes when it attempts to recurse for the > first time. Interesting, thanks! Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:07:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193AC106564A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0DC8FC0A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.localnet (ppp121-45-116-6.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.116.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0P579Hj090864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:37:10 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:36:59 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (Linux/2.6.27-9-generic; KDE/4.1.3; i686; ; ) References: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart17370136.6rb1oQBIYS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200901251537.07249.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.212 () BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Mark Andrews , lev@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:07:19 -0000 --nextPart17370136.6rb1oQBIYS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:43:48 Mark Andrews wrote: > > I've never used mpd myself, but you might want to try adding the > > following line to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mpd and see if it helps: > > > > # BEFORE: named > > mpd should also be fixed as the error code being returned is not > approprate. network unreachable is what should be returned. I'm not sure that is the whole problem - I found that it would return devic= e=20 not configured 'permanently' when I was using it. The link would be up=20 (apparently) but nothing passes. Sometimes restarting it would fix it but=20 other times it just persistently said the same thing. It seemed like there was some kernel state that was incorrect and even=20 restarting mpd would not fix it. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart17370136.6rb1oQBIYS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBJe/N05ZPcIHs/zowRArdXAJ99jOF0N/dHY1oSesVhgPwr71u+vQCdFmR+ 6VSNozVK8wmCztUzaumRHk0= =gwDB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart17370136.6rb1oQBIYS-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:56:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067F4106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BEF8FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=11774 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LR0mr-0000KN-Gr; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:53:58 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:15 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > Sorin Panca wrote: >> After upgrading the system using freebsd-update from 6.3-RELEASE to >> 7.0-RELEASE and after that, from 7.0 to 7.1 trying to install >> ports-mgmt/portupgrade fails at ruby18 with the following message: > > If you haven't already you have to remove and reinstall _all_ of your > ports after doing a major version upgrade (6.x -> 7.x). > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages were removed by pkg_delete -a ? Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" Thank you! Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:41:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD1E1065701; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ftp.translate.ru (ftp.translate.ru [195.131.4.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F3A8FC25; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from desktop.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (blacklion.dialup.corbina.ru [89.179.122.169]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by ftp.translate.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F27AC13DF6A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:41:35 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:41:33 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <526160285.20090125124133@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org> References: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lev@freebsd.org, Mark Andrews , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re[2]: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:37 -0000 Hello, Doug. You wrote 25 =FF=ED=E2=E0=F0=FF 2009 =E3., 04:19:40: > I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me > whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given > the situation described. This named CARRIES (and is MASTER) for local zone, but it didn't answer in this situation :( --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 10:06:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D1F1065673; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f11.google.com (mail-fx0-f11.google.com [209.85.220.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E0E8FC25; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1622748fxm.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:06:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pNWO1idwMiXMEIZ1nRlBjScG93SSkwQ6sszJtxvnz6U=; b=l0OkgfQmZOYAmAU+9ztKZz9d0Fz//2bF0m/j3jbR3XUeVO6TGaA6sEBiRU6BrhUxM3 oFv0SErSLGIv//KNWDyborct7sjNSraZQdT71p5plaxHjP7WR1Y3nP4UveVgYZHudHc8 /BRqj8O7Gc7AlUMc6zlcIn0JAUxSSkjYkb3h0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aj4DVuUiGGIL3VP2TvhPugehYAx4gcpSDALmmcwt6J4pkeIbuS8Tj703Sw3XPno6ZV h2pwt75bLvlgbVY+/sbL6xc+ZdCf9GQXvjCTlcvdaWjqUDdxx0daE4ahttxhWE28BqaO xKnAf28Ik+AVEmYful4qeqiMcVfnLv6hmYFhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.228.7 with SMTP id f7mr3387506mur.130.1232877989753; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:06:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:06:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Claus Guttesen To: Sorin Panca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:31 -0000 >> If you haven't already you have to remove and reinstall _all_ of your >> ports after doing a major version upgrade (6.x -> 7.x). >> > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean > system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages > were removed by pkg_delete -a ? > Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" pkg_info -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 10:39:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A29106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from avocado.salatschuessel.net (avocado.salatschuessel.net [78.111.72.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0DC38FC1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: (qmail 71568 invoked by uid 89); 25 Jan 2009 10:12:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (78.111.72.187) by avocado.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2009 10:12:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:12:19 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090125111219.56ca189f.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: recently happend kernel panics regarding usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:39:19 -0000 Hi, I'm experiencing recently happend kernel panics while making bacula backups on my external USB harddisk. It first happened some days ago while I was running 6.4-PRERLEASE. I then updated to 6.4-STABLE and enabled all the kernel debugging stuff. I've uploaded "screenshots" (including backtrace) here: http://pics.pofo.de/gallery/v/misc/ I'm now not sure if the external USB-case, the PATA harddisk or the USB controler is dying - or if it is a FreeBSD problem. The USB case which I had before died after 1.5 years of usage without any notice from one day to another... maybe this one here is now dying too but with some noise? -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 10:40:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB89106568D; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28FA8FC2B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=46611 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LR2Pf-0000XE-3z; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: <497C410F.3000408@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:38:07 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Doug Barton , Claus Guttesen Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:40:25 -0000 Claus Guttesen wrote: >>> If you haven't already you have to remove and reinstall _all_ of your >>> ports after doing a major version upgrade (6.x -> 7.x). >>> >> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >> Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" > > pkg_info (To Claus Guttesen: I'm sorry for the previous response e-mail.) pkg_info pkg_info: no packages installed Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:13:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68B2106564A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC2C8FC0A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=18216 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LR2vY-0000c5-5B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:13:21 -0500 Message-ID: <497C48CA.2070600@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:11:06 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> In-Reply-To: <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Doug Barton Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:13:22 -0000 Sorin Panca wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> Sorin Panca wrote: >>> After upgrading the system using freebsd-update from 6.3-RELEASE to >>> 7.0-RELEASE and after that, from 7.0 to 7.1 trying to install >>> ports-mgmt/portupgrade fails at ruby18 with the following message: >> If you haven't already you have to remove and reinstall _all_ of your >> ports after doing a major version upgrade (6.x -> 7.x). >> > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean > system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages > were removed by pkg_delete -a ? > Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" If you look at my previous posts on this list (from 2007), I was having this problem since I started upgrading our servers. Therefore, anticipating your question, this time I took the precaution of performing the upgrade by following certain steps, to avoid uncontrolled variables to polute the environment. The steps I followed were: 1. check if the system has an amd64 FreeBSD installation 2. remove all installed packages by pkg_delete -a 3. freebsd-update: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 and reboot 4. freebsd-update: upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 and reboot 5. install packages from ports. Any help would be appreciated. Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:27:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174F21065690; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE38FC08; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so3580757mue.3 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:27:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GA7rHkh7bi7DW2Tw2Ce3kOFyP20YlfzhEGr8eA052yo=; b=W1d2Ue51XtFF7zvrSpxqMVRqZk/2fWYuhnvANEqrKM4SJ2cVxTCOohFxQ7MA6DTXnO WlpeDAtCC61SzOOmwkPQwP+ikoDjLC2ByqMHl6VgfYGCrdd0kVEA/hhQM8NonAdxFBnw bt+K6fHl+qH4YMD3yclFWWMjP2E1trFutYNsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q71E3QWlznNYQOwmdZdLkqZ2OdwZqLJNournYXa57zBgbLmvAeg8IR0MaK5b2yiu0r kUIlx5q0TNYxyOPJ9b+QIIRTqo2Y0u+8Xd9bIYBNezimMzOk8dzJ1snzNv4wKRlVDlFN IqTDf5KgJMs6XOsRhDXugvcxvRYvdbeM8W7Gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.226.10 with SMTP id d10mr3047756mur.84.1232882820396; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:27:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497C48CA.2070600@psrk.com> References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497C48CA.2070600@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:27:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Claus Guttesen To: Sorin Panca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:27:04 -0000 >> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >> Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" > > The steps I followed were: > 1. check if the system has an amd64 FreeBSD installation > 2. remove all installed packages by pkg_delete -a > 3. freebsd-update: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 and reboot > 4. freebsd-update: upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 and reboot > 5. install packages from ports. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Sorin. Did you also update the ports-tree? If not, please do so and try to install portupgrade again. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:31:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B63106566B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790058FC1C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=51309 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LR3DR-0000kA-QN; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <497C4D1E.50908@psrk.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:29:34 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497C48CA.2070600@psrk.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Doug Barton , Claus Guttesen Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:31:52 -0000 Claus Guttesen wrote: >>> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >>> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >>> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >>> Running pkg_delete -a returns "pkg_delete: no packages installed" >> The steps I followed were: >> 1. check if the system has an amd64 FreeBSD installation >> 2. remove all installed packages by pkg_delete -a >> 3. freebsd-update: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 and reboot >> 4. freebsd-update: upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 and reboot >> 5. install packages from ports. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> Sorin. > > Did you also update the ports-tree? If not, please do so and try to > install portupgrade again. Of course I did... They were up to date right after the first step. Sorry I didn't mention it. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:30:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3894D10656D3; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5868FC16; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0PFUCtb042650; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:30:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:30:12 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <200901251537.07249.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: <20090126002703.J90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> <200901251537.07249.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: lev@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Mark Andrews , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:30:18 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:43:48 Mark Andrews wrote: Doug Barton wrote: > > > I've never used mpd myself, but you might want to try adding the > > > following line to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mpd and see if it helps: > > > > > > # BEFORE: named This doesn't help in the case where mpd may take seconds to negotiate with $provider for a link; always the case on ADSL here anyway, moreso for dialup. The rc.d script exits after launching mpd, so named will still start 'right away' while mpd - or ppp - is still negotiating. I 'solved' this chicken-and-egg by adding an ugly sleep 7 after starting (mpd &) before exiting the script. Haven't bothered refining what works once a month or two, but the sleep could be killed by pid from an mpd-up script as soon as there's a working link. (mpd 4.1 if it matters) > > mpd should also be fixed as the error code being returned is not > > approprate. network unreachable is what should be returned. It's not mpd's error, or message; named knows nothing about mpd, but does like its specified listen and *-source addresses to exist. This one looks more like a ill-worded 'no route to host' indication perhaps? Or trying to listen on the address of the (yet to exist) ng interface? > I'm not sure that is the whole problem - I found that it would return device > not configured 'permanently' when I was using it. The link would be up > (apparently) but nothing passes. Sometimes restarting it would fix it but > other times it just persistently said the same thing. > > It seemed like there was some kernel state that was incorrect and even > restarting mpd would not fix it. I've found named requires a proper /etc/rc.d/named stop / start cycle after all required interfaces are up and there's a default route, here, and that sleep 7 obviates that for me .. but it's hardly elegant. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:07:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320B1106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4318FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 26291 invoked by uid 399); 25 Jan 2009 18:07:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 25 Jan 2009 18:07:25 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:07:24 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sorin Panca References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> In-Reply-To: <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:07:26 -0000 Sorin Panca wrote: > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean > system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages > were removed by pkg_delete -a ? Check /usr/local and make sure there is nothing there. In particular make sure that /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg does not exist. It sounds like this is already true, but also make sure that /var/db/pkg is empty as well. If none of that works then you've got a bigger problem. If you still can't install ruby and/or portupgrade, try installing a simple port just using 'make clean ; make install' in the port's directory. If that works, try a more complex port until something fails. If nothing fails installing manually it's a problem with portupgrade and/or ruby and you can send in a new bug report focusing on that. You might also consider using portmaster of course. :) hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:16:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17D510657A9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from kazon.borderworlds.dk (kazon.borderworlds.dk [213.239.213.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187E38FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from dominion.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazon.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823A1702F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:57:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by dominion.borderworlds.dk (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 89E5C8D8; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:57:02 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Christian Laursen Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:57:02 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: /boot/loader broken in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:16:49 -0000 After I upgraded one of my machines from FreeBSD 7.0 to 7.1, I am experiencing a problem with the loader. It stops with these messages: Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: can't load 'kernel' I have taken a screenshot (Yes, with my camera): http://borderworlds.dk/~xi/loader.jpg I notice the follwoing at the top of the screen: skip_newline\ not found When looking through the forth code I see a function named skip_newlines. Does this perhaps indicate that some string handling goes wrong somewhere? Anyway, using /boot/loader.old from 7.0 works perfectly. I have not seen this issue on any of the other 10+ machines that I have upgraded to 7.1. I am ready to provide more info on request if neccesary. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:21:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132F1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from keltia.freenix.fr (keltia.freenix.org [IPv6:2001:660:330f:f820:213:72ff:fe15:f44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8228FC1E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS) with ESMTP id 8C7533B9A6 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:21:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keltia.freenix.fr Received: from keltia.freenix.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keltia.freenix.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7bipQaiHlB5Y for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS, from userid 101) id 365833B9A5; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:21:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:21:19 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125192119.GA19792@keltia.freenix.fr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: MacOS X / Macbook Pro - FreeBSD 7 / Dell D820 SMP User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: /boot/loader broken in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:21 -0000 According to Christian Laursen: > Anyway, using /boot/loader.old from 7.0 works perfectly. I have not seen > this issue on any of the other 10+ machines that I have upgraded to 7.1. The one in 7.1-STABLE (stable/7) does not even compile on amd64. Another thing to watch in stable/7 is that installworld will fail if /usr/share/locale is already populated, one has to completely remove it to complete. I discovered that when running "installworld" again with WITHOUT_BOOT=yes. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Dons / donation Ondine : http://ondine.keltia.net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:44:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A7B1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail48.e.nsc.no (mail48.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E30E8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.178.235] (062016178235.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.178.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail48.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id n0PIvTUK020151; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:57:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <497CC3F0.6050201@next.online.no> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:56:32 +0000 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sorin Panca References: <1232846583.00065753.1232835001@10.7.7.3> <1232850187.00065785.1232839202@10.7.7.3> <1232886183.00065928.1232874001@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1232886183.00065928.1232874001@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:10 -0000 Sorin Panca wrote: > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean > system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages > were removed by pkg_delete -a ? I cannot help wonder why you try to do a binary update. Saving some configuration files and doing a reinstall might have been easier IMO. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:57:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D947C10656CD for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from hedwig.simons-rock.edu (hedwig.simons-rock.edu [208.81.88.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDB28FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from cesium.hyperfine.info (c2.8d.5646.static.theplanet.com [70.86.141.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hedwig.simons-rock.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4DC2BB383; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:57:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:57:01 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20090125225701.GC58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57:05 -0000 Rebuilding the kernel with COMPAT6X should allow ports built under 6x to work under 7x... On 2009-01-25 10:07:24AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Sorin Panca wrote: > > Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean > > system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages > > were removed by pkg_delete -a ? > > Check /usr/local and make sure there is nothing there. In particular > make sure that /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg does not exist. It sounds > like this is already true, but also make sure that /var/db/pkg is > empty as well. If none of that works then you've got a bigger problem. > > If you still can't install ruby and/or portupgrade, try installing a > simple port just using 'make clean ; make install' in the port's > directory. If that works, try a more complex port until something > fails. If nothing fails installing manually it's a problem with > portupgrade and/or ruby and you can send in a new bug report focusing > on that. > > You might also consider using portmaster of course. :) > > > hope this helps, > > Doug > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- =========================================================== Peter C. Lai | Bard College at Simon's Rock Systems Administrator | 84 Alford Rd. Information Technology Svcs. | Gt. Barrington, MA 01230 USA peter AT simons-rock.edu | (413) 528-7428 =========================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:34:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CBB1065782 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cian@cia.nhugh.es) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501638FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cian@cia.nhugh.es) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so717915ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.125.13 with SMTP id x13mr436284ebc.61.1232928750953; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (92-235-131-100.cable.ubr19.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.131.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm6125176eye.30.2009.01.25.16.12.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: Cian Hughes Message-Id: <11BB0608-1438-49DF-9CD2-02167653EF7F@cian.ws> From: Cian Hughes To: Pete French In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:12:28 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Big problems with 7.1 locking up :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:34:34 -0000 Pete, Have you considered enabling serial console emulation in the BIOS on the machines. I have got my iLo cards set up to redirect the serial ports on my HP servers so that I can ssh into the ILO cards and by typing Esc-Q access what I would otherwise see on a serial console. Unfortunately I don't have a DL360 to try and reproduce your problem on. Regards, Cian. On 12 Jan 2009, at 15:16, Pete French wrote: > I cant add a sserial console - I am remote enough from most of > these machines (Slough) and very remote from the test box (its in > the USA!) > so I cant get to them physicly. But I do have iLo which lets me use > the > console and gives me a bit of access to the front. I will check for > NMI. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:12:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94041065707 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ssanders@softhammer.net) Received: from smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D65F8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ssanders@softhammer.net) Received: (qmail 9650 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 01:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (173.66.45.110) by smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.182) with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2009 01:45:46 -0000 From: Stephen Sanders To: d@delphij.net In-Reply-To: <497A755F.7000605@delphij.net> References: <497A43DA.8040907@softhammer.net> <497A755F.7000605@delphij.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Softhammer.Net Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <1232934230.3316.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 (2.24.3-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Heard of this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ssanders@softhammer.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:12:29 -0000 Thanks for the reply. The kernel is custom but the changes are in the ethernet packet dis-assembly code. These changes haven't been a problem in the past but started to be a problem in 6.3. Thanks for the tip on compat5x. I'll look into that. On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:56 -0800, Xin LI wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > [redirected from -bugs@ to -stable@] > > Stephen Sanders wrote: > > I'm tracking what I believe to be a bug in 32 bit compat5x. > > > > The situation is as follows: > > > > 6.3 amd64 FreeBSD running 32 bit FreeBSD 5.3 applications. On fairly > > random intervals, applications core drop in open(), fopen(), and kill() > > in the 32 bit compat5x layer. The core usually occur during process > > startup. > > > > A) Does this sound familiar. > > Nope... Do you have a custom built kernel or is it the stock kernel? > Is it possible for you to try running a FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE kernel? > > > B) Is there a specific place in the source tree to look for compat5x? > > Basically compat5x is just library from FreeBSD 5.x, say, 5.4. > > Cheers, > - -- > Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl6dV8ACgkQi+vbBBjt66DwAACfbhWo08hLNiw5zpnHrwUnFL/E > nYcAnR+ReOON9UDbj4zCEj0J8R5YinJw > =GZR9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:38:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2DB106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127718FC23 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 2475 invoked by uid 399); 26 Jan 2009 05:38:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 26 Jan 2009 05:38:40 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497D4C5F.6010400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:38:39 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter C. Lai" References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> <20090125225701.GC58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> In-Reply-To: <20090125225701.GC58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:38:41 -0000 Peter C. Lai wrote: > Rebuilding the kernel with COMPAT6X should allow ports built under 6x to > work under 7x... ... which is dicey at the best of times, and definitely NOT recommended when the OP is already experiencing problems. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:53:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4625C1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D280C8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 17191 invoked by uid 399); 26 Jan 2009 05:53:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 26 Jan 2009 05:53:20 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497D4FCF.4040401@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:53:19 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <200901250113.n0P1DmHe060610@drugs.dv.isc.org> <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org> <526160285.20090125124133@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <526160285.20090125124133@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Mark Andrews , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:53:21 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Doug. > You wrote 25 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 04:19:40: > >> I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me >> whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given >> the situation described. > This named CARRIES (and is MASTER) for local zone, but it didn't > answer in this situation :( Oy, that's what I was afraid of. /etc/hosts is your friend when it comes to nfs. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 07:37:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1671065672; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41DF8FC14; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=43476 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRM2K-0003lp-Mf; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:37:37 -0500 Message-ID: <497D67B6.2090501@psrk.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:35:18 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Doug Barton Subject: ruby18 fails to compile on amd64 after freebsd-update upgrade from 6.x to 7.x - was: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:37:39 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > Sorin Panca wrote: >> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? > > Check /usr/local and make sure there is nothing there. In particular > make sure that /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg does not exist. It sounds > like this is already true, but also make sure that /var/db/pkg is > empty as well. If none of that works then you've got a bigger problem. > > If you still can't install ruby and/or portupgrade, try installing a > simple port just using 'make clean ; make install' in the port's > directory. If that works, try a more complex port until something > fails. If nothing fails installing manually it's a problem with > portupgrade and/or ruby and you can send in a new bug report focusing > on that. > > You might also consider using portmaster of course. :) > > > hope this helps, > > Doug > /usr/local/compat/pkg existed but I followed your advice and removed it. /var/db/pkg was empty when I checked it. I proceeded to trying to install /usr/ports/lang/ruby18 by make clean and then make install clean. It failed with the same error as in my previous attempts. However, some packages built correctly: shells/bash, lang/perl5.8, sysutils/ezjail and www/apache. I really wanted to take portmaster into consideration (it's a better alternative to portupgrade in my opinion also), but sysutils/puppet uses portupgrade as its backend and I use puppet on my servers. So I'm stuck with portupgrade. I also noticed when compiling other programs, that the line contains the following arguments: -fPIC -DPIC, while compiling ruby18, it only contains -fPIC. I added -DPIC to /etc/make.conf, so that the CFLAGS line would look like: CFLAGS?= -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -pipe After that, the compiler output lines still look like: cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -c variable.c and fails as in my previous attempts. Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 07:42:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF251065676 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A488FC22 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [93.122.133.67] (port=44805 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRM6g-0003pn-GT for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: <497D68C8.7090605@psrk.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:39:52 +0200 From: Sorin Panca User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:42:08 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > Sorin Panca wrote: >> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? > > I cannot help wonder why you try to do a binary update. Saving some > configuration files and doing a reinstall might have been easier IMO. I'm located in Europe, while the server is in the US. I also think that a serious OS should be upgradable both from source and binaries without booting it from other media, at runtime. Asking people near that server to do something I should be able to do is never a good option. Regards, Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 13:28:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72541065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from espresso2.syncrontech.com (espresso2.syncrontech.com [213.28.98.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4268FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com (ink.syncrontech.com [192.168.2.107]) by espresso2.syncrontech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0QD0HYj020022 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) by ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:11 +0200 From: Timo Rikkonen To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:11 +0200 Thread-Topic: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while Thread-Index: Acl/tgWeI+nS8R5WQPS7MMahNvATYw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, fi-FI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:12 -0000 Hi, We are using "VScom PCI-200L" and "Moxa Technologies, C168H/PCI" -cards for= serial ports. After installing 7.0 the ports or the connection to the port= hang after a while. A "while" could be half-a-day or 10 minutes. There is no error message to be seen anywhere. Not all ports hang at the same time, it could be just one or two of them. E= arlier versions (6.2-RELEASE) work just fine. The ports have different devicenames after 7.0, in 6.2 they were /dev/cuad4= -7, now they are /dev/cuau0-3 (uart?) dmesg-output considering the card: puc0: port 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb807,0xb400-0xb407,0xb00= 0-0xb007 mem 0xfe5ffc00-0xfe5ffc3f irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci1 puc0: [FILTER] uart0: <16550 or compatible> on puc0 uart0: [FILTER] uart1: <16550 or compatible> on puc0 uart1: [FILTER] the same in 6.2: puc0: port 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb807,0xb400-0xb407,0xb00= 0- 0xb007 mem 0xfe5ffc00-0xfe5ffc3f irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci1 sio4: on puc0 sio4: type 16550A sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode sio5: on puc0 sio5: type 16550A sio5: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode We have over 20 installations, now two of them have been upgraded to 7.0 wi= th mentioned side effects. Yours, Timo Rikkonen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:30:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122171065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E238FC25 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2333399ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:30:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:received :message-id:date:subject:from:to:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:importance; bh=RJDKJo0/I7xK1/xykIybWJF+7L1zEerZEjxxuXfFbZ4=; b=C3qfSqP1gcFb0n4McAB1eRpkJAMfpL9HcfvLGF8WcTLLj+s1sUVhi+qtNdMt1AnWB8 VFiwfHGSY8Bf29Q2eMYU/mIQS7kkqXtRtp8xBajZ8sEQLskaEIvo9pbxXuY6kVFCPeiL YpUggHvcj40r6C36c4YYUtjRrC4zlG0qnzpCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:subject:from:to:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:importance; b=xTNcMLBLHqRugBG0W1eLzPjWCgTqN4ky/jwkjPuwFy7kKUlyF9z60GhKF1Ydp6Bm/1 wlFYriig+Nnk+VqELXnScytvwvif/Kp/dM2Apwlr4TO/yTBSokscOgdp4EZ1o4yeY0XC HIMtupOSp3YZ7iuqjValCkbZTZU6e7Wp5uYVI= Received: by 10.100.46.15 with SMTP id t15mr3928631ant.26.1232978418962; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.homeunix.com ([189.71.8.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm16033122and.24.2009.01.26.06.00.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:00:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: Nenhum_de_Nos Received: by cygnus.homeunix.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id 91516B8067; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:00:12 -0300 (BRT) Received: from 10.1.1.80 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matheus) by lamneth with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:00:12 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:00:12 -0200 (BRST) From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: cheap usb ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:30:39 -0000 hail, I need an usb ethernet, but found just one from aue and axe from 7.1 hardware list. is there any apart from those there ? I looked on ebay for my search. thanks, matheus -- We will call you cygnus, The God of balance you shall be From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 16:44:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B8B1065698 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@martenvijn.nl) Received: from mail.math.leidenuniv.nl (mail.math.leidenuniv.nl [132.229.231.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E058FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@martenvijn.nl) Received: from [132.229.231.13] (polaris.math.leidenuniv.nl [132.229.231.13]) by mail.math.leidenuniv.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F356E7CA; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:27:48 +0100 (CET) From: Marten Vijn To: Nenhum_de_Nos In-Reply-To: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> References: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:27:48 +0100 Message-Id: <1232987268.18935.0.camel@polaris> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap usb ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:44:49 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 12:00 -0200, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > hail, > > I need an usb ethernet, but found just one from aue and axe from 7.1 > hardware list. is there any apart from those there ? I looked on ebay for > my search. I have these: http://xoexplosion.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_6 Marten > > thanks, > > matheus > > -- Marten Vijn linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 http://martenvijn.nl http://opencommunitycamp.org http://wifisoft.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 16:59:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8410656D4 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFC88FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [82.77.123.155] (port=45432) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRUni-00089u-Rr for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:59:07 -0500 Message-ID: <497DEBD2.9000800@psrk.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:58:58 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U29yaW4gUMOibmNh?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090106) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497B85DE.1040005@psrk.com> <497BA079.6060309@FreeBSD.org> <497C28A6.9040701@psrk.com> <497CAA5C.2050900@FreeBSD.org> <497D67B6.2090501@psrk.com> In-Reply-To: <497D67B6.2090501@psrk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Packages that depend on libpthread fail to compile on amd64 after freebsd-update upgrade from 6.x to 7.x - was: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:59:17 -0000 Sorin Panca wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> Sorin Panca wrote: >>> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >>> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >>> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >> Check /usr/local and make sure there is nothing there. In particular >> make sure that /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg does not exist. It sounds >> like this is already true, but also make sure that /var/db/pkg is >> empty as well. If none of that works then you've got a bigger problem. >> >> If you still can't install ruby and/or portupgrade, try installing a >> simple port just using 'make clean ; make install' in the port's >> directory. If that works, try a more complex port until something >> fails. If nothing fails installing manually it's a problem with >> portupgrade and/or ruby and you can send in a new bug report focusing >> on that. >> >> You might also consider using portmaster of course. :) >> >> >> hope this helps, >> >> Doug >> > > /usr/local/compat/pkg existed but I followed your advice and removed it. > /var/db/pkg was empty when I checked it. > I proceeded to trying to install /usr/ports/lang/ruby18 by make clean > and then make install clean. It failed with the same error as in my > previous attempts. > > However, some packages built correctly: shells/bash, lang/perl5.8, > sysutils/ezjail and www/apache. > > I really wanted to take portmaster into consideration (it's a better > alternative to portupgrade in my opinion also), but sysutils/puppet uses > portupgrade as its backend and I use puppet on my servers. So I'm stuck > with portupgrade. > > I also noticed when compiling other programs, that the line contains the > following arguments: -fPIC -DPIC, while compiling ruby18, it only > contains -fPIC. I added -DPIC to /etc/make.conf, so that the CFLAGS line > would look like: > CFLAGS?= -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -pipe > After that, the compiler output lines still look like: > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -c > variable.c > and fails as in my previous attempts. > > Sorin. New data: All packages that depend on /usr/lib/libpthread.a fail to compile on FreeBSD-7.x-RELEASE after binary upgrading from FreeBSD-6.x-RELEASE The error is: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libpthread.a(thr_concurrency.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/lib/libpthread.a: could not read symbols: Bad value Among those packages are: lang/ruby18, lang/python25, net/openldap24-client and devel/glib12 Sorin. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:32:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E892106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@martenvijn.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F147F8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@martenvijn.nl) Received: from [192.168.178.47] (martenvijn.xs4all.nl [80.101.161.153]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0QIFNuO048382; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:15:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from info@martenvijn.nl) From: Marten Vijn To: Nenhum_de_Nos In-Reply-To: <1232987268.18935.0.camel@polaris> References: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> <1232987268.18935.0.camel@polaris> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:15:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1232993722.6403.3.camel@mvn-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap usb ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:32 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 17:27 +0100, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 12:00 -0200, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > > hail, > > > > I need an usb ethernet, but found just one from aue and axe from 7.1 > > hardware list. is there any apart from those there ? I looked on ebay for > > my search. > > I have these: > http://xoexplosion.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_6 I 've used this one on CURRENT. just to be sure, I 've tested it on 7.0 (old build) and 7.1 (Jan 21th 2009) In 7.0 and 7.1 it complains about: axe0 : MII with any PHY! and not works cheers, Marten > > Marten > > > > thanks, > > > > matheus > > > > -- http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn http://www.deupsidevandown.nl *** http://laptop.org/xo Give One Get One http://har2009.org August 13-16th http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul 2nd August From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:32:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856E1065689 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF658FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so1079622ana.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:received :message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to:cc :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:importance; bh=BPNGxt0FAKIxUPqE8YhHUMVIJnsGmVAc0SfwD2NEsJs=; b=hQm5TMQayVONVk3UILDcWqc1pLgWwYTDTg0uScIk1CCzD8iSInQ1FDqcBB+bOWP0ez geLGXX/6vtCkIE6EejjtYmZfoc6bEJYjlWgFDwTYUY6p3B8FEmp/qyBNfXwPLt9nfbDW 6UTICMOERb0j8IscqJ+7Eh+82ZKAVm79b1rgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to:cc :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:importance; b=Aqw4BZCm53LEICdONY/FHTi2ghb7Kb6b8dAr7qj/gDHa1Q70caO/lnYdDHRpm47d1o teD7GdwTmGMxdjTDO3WcECQdc0GXLxkqcjD2+Z/Q0egoivjQ/gkYJqgsx5weRxe3AXrg YGmp9AF69sQyWxNUIr72JMeyPIzEjJ8HbuJUg= Received: by 10.100.105.9 with SMTP id d9mr2573502anc.142.1232994767512; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.homeunix.com ([189.71.8.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm23023631anc.45.2009.01.26.10.32.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:32:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: Nenhum_de_Nos Received: by cygnus.homeunix.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id B60D2B8067; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:32:39 -0300 (BRT) Received: from 189.92.34.116 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matheus) by cygnus.homeunix.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:32:39 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1232993722.6403.3.camel@mvn-desktop> References: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> <1232987268.18935.0.camel@polaris> <1232993722.6403.3.camel@mvn-desktop> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:32:39 -0200 (BRST) From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" To: "Marten Vijn" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap usb ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:32:48 -0000 On Mon, January 26, 2009 16:15, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 17:27 +0100, Marten Vijn wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 12:00 -0200, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: >> > hail, >> > >> > I need an usb ethernet, but found just one from aue and axe from 7.1 >> > hardware list. is there any apart from those there ? I looked on ebay >> for >> > my search. >> >> I have these: >> http://xoexplosion.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_6 > > I 've used this one on CURRENT. > > just to be sure, I 've tested it on 7.0 (old build) and 7.1 (Jan 21th > 2009) > > In 7.0 and 7.1 it complains about: > axe0 : MII with any PHY! > > and not works > > > cheers, > Marten > >> >> Marten >> > >> > thanks, >> > >> > matheus thanks, but I couldn't find this adapter in ebay, and unfortunately I can't buy from otherwise :( still looking though. by the way, there was a axe call for testers not so long ago, maybe this was the case :) matheus -- We will call you cygnus, The God of balance you shall be From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 19:09:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14108106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoganxian@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D128FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoganxian@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so6574689gxk.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=h8ZB0DA1XKU5GXnWQrlHJADQV+88YwJcZBhTOwJaCaU=; b=AESw5Cfq7K96LrYo/yTlamTSVHiz8mh3+DPOrUUuSHhHutIYOKegn28ANKaFqIJG++ CFfFfwaIqWmrD5ULYppnOaK5AYbt7Bp04Wxl2eCXTbwH4n/8fzQooxXGIAsBwyo7goN5 7UGy79ZAVGGm65MjrU4n8js4YX0Np2pccvWAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VocZPFDVnZ1GnoMjtV9Pqznu5NjYilSSGUqFe9gbUSXorhme3B3AbPXzU4X+7lF9qH i7Ach1X+p8Tr7BCYAcBvx7VuFBI3I4zkWLLy8WBU/NaMJUk52Tri0JsBAB9W0pBk1d88 kX1QKIdqF9lITlBUm/XK6ikoqjte+h3eO9V8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.81.7 with SMTP id e7mr4019016wfb.106.1232995556211; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:45:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Xian Chen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:09:24 -0000 Hi All, I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if using WinSCP. Any clues for this? Thanks in advance. Xian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 19:18:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E960A106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcfusaro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F42F8FC21 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcfusaro@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so1683248ewy.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:18:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k8oZOrDOB38G+dIiMKDzOwYIyUB54Dl2R8g5YU+ido8=; b=HfA9YJ0qhM0iCFF0Vms1pBD3y36IdMWzGW+pkFojFTsIL0+HLtx5Rccb0TtONKMM6P Gor2Cf6SFE38I8hw10mu94SYIT4OhCqyad42v9wadFg+SwK8eyzXZkmCxRvDli87DnYg 2uC8LLCc0qC69OcTVDuByDFm31DmU3sOeFHpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AuB8cR4WtfQhdSihMNdC7w2KtCY+8TL5tQdUACvn5hIg+tdKkoBg2T4PwoGChuNFBF xOTtJqEwOZcPSw6V3gd2vKT1DrrIYvMPmzsraLRheydTQ2IOC5cWlvq2C0Be4jCBDozC GJMD3OVafmCn/mk4/UIy80rWDVu+XslSGNnbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr1311558ebb.143.1232996312846; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:58:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497D68C8.7090605@psrk.com> References: <497D68C8.7090605@psrk.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:58:32 +0100 Message-ID: <60f6f5610901261058n51d40c42x333a854b19877d28@mail.gmail.com> From: Massimo Fusaro To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:18:56 -0000 2009/1/26 Sorin Panca : > Tore Lund wrote: >> Sorin Panca wrote: >>> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >>> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >>> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >> >> I cannot help wonder why you try to do a binary update. Saving some >> configuration files and doing a reinstall might have been easier IMO. > > I'm located in Europe, while the server is in the US. I also think that > a serious OS should be upgradable both from source and binaries without > booting it from other media, at runtime. Asking people near that server > to do something I should be able to do is never a good option. > > Regards, > Sorin. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Please remove the directory /var/db/ports/ruby and stick to default CFLAGS by removing all CFLAGS definitions from /etc/make.conf (you can add your options later) It seems that ruby always uses "-pthread" even if threading is not enabled, -fPIC in NOT needed. Check that libpthread.* is a symlink to libthr.* and that libthr.so -> /lib/libthr.so.3 -- regards -Max From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 19:22:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7B1065696 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320928FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3841C2844E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:22:08 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E70DEB6C76; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:22:07 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iUAOvOqfWnJ0; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:22:02 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (adsl-76-237-33-62.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.237.33.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94F74EB6C03; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:22:01 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V315vqW71SyRXW+1Qle5TX5VuXDaLu7OLxDuLyYYizvOl55PmzocdYG7m0N6i2hAD cvL7gwrrT4G9AWOOrvw+Q== Message-ID: <497E0D55.3060006@delphij.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:21:57 -0800 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xian Chen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:22:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Xian Chen wrote: > Hi All, > > I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. > > But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP > errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if using > WinSCP. > > Any clues for this? My guess is that you have specified an incorrect port number. Try tcpdump? Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl+DVUACgkQi+vbBBjt66AOWgCfWt79XNAP8piVB2etJS6BxKL2 2NUAnAw2nnOUrGbl8Wk0YmdYRXq3BTjP =9ax6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 19:55:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9E01065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from mail1.psrk.com (64.147.114.45.static.nyinternet.net [64.147.114.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9355D8FC2E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sorin.panca@psrk.com) Received: from [82.77.123.155] (port=39863) by mail1.psrk.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRXY5-0000cF-NO; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <497E1516.1060802@psrk.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:55:02 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U29yaW4gUMOibmNh?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090106) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <497D68C8.7090605@psrk.com> <60f6f5610901261058n51d40c42x333a854b19877d28@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60f6f5610901261058n51d40c42x333a854b19877d28@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Massimo Fusaro Subject: Re: Installing packages using ports after freebsd-update doesn't work on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:55:13 -0000 Massimo Fusaro wrote: > 2009/1/26 Sorin Panca : >> Tore Lund wrote: >>> Sorin Panca wrote: >>>> Prior to starting the upgrade I did a pkg_delete -a. I wanted a clean >>>> system (just like a reinstallation). How do I ensure that all packages >>>> were removed by pkg_delete -a ? >>> I cannot help wonder why you try to do a binary update. Saving some >>> configuration files and doing a reinstall might have been easier IMO. >> I'm located in Europe, while the server is in the US. I also think that >> a serious OS should be upgradable both from source and binaries without >> booting it from other media, at runtime. Asking people near that server >> to do something I should be able to do is never a good option. >> >> Regards, >> Sorin. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Please remove the directory /var/db/ports/ruby and stick to default > CFLAGS by removing all CFLAGS definitions from /etc/make.conf (you can > add your options later) > > It seems that ruby always uses "-pthread" even if threading is not > enabled, -fPIC in NOT needed. > > Check that libpthread.* is a symlink to libthr.* and that libthr.so -> > /lib/libthr.so.3 The libthr symlinks are as you described them. (As I said in my latest post, I think that not only ruby is affected by this 'bug', but all ports that try to link against libpthread. I installed ruby using pkg_add, but I continue to experiment with python. Using make config, I selected THREADING and deselected IPV6.) I commented out the CFLAGS line in /etc/make.conf, then: # cd /usr/ports/lang/python25 # rm -rf /var/db/ports/python25 # make clean ===> Cleaning for python25-2.5.2_3 # make install clean [...] cc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x20000 -I. -IInclude -I./../Include -fPIC -DPy_BUILD_CORE -DSVNVERSION=\"`LC_ALL=C echo exported`\" -o Modules/getbuildinfo.o ./../Modules/getbuildinfo.c if test libpython2.5.so != libpython2.5.so; then cc -shared -pthread -Wl,-hlibpython2.5.so -o libpython2.5.so Modules/_typesmodule.o Modules/getbuildinfo.o Parser/acceler.o Parser/grammar1.o Parser/listnode.o Parser/node.o Parser/parser.o Parser/parsetok.o Parser/bitset.o Parser/metagrammar.o Parser/firstsets.o Parser/grammar.o Parser/pgen.o Parser/myreadline.o Parser/tokenizer.o Objects/abstract.o Objects/boolobject.o Objects/bufferobject.o Objects/cellobject.o Objects/classobject.o Objects/cobject.o Objects/codeobject.o Objects/complexobject.o Objects/descrobject.o Objects/enumobject.o Objects/exceptions.o Objects/genobject.o Objects/fileobject.o Objects/floatobject.o Objects/frameobject.o Objects/funcobject.o Objects/intobject.o Objects/iterobject.o Objects/listobject.o Objects/longobject.o Objects/dictobject.o Objects/methodobject.o Objects/moduleobject.o Objects/object.o Objects/obmalloc.o Objects/rangeobject.o Objects/setobject.o Objects/sliceobject.o Objects/stringobject.o Objects/structseq.o Objects/tupleobject.o Objects/typeobject.o Objects/weakrefobject.o Objects/unicodeobject.o Objects/unicodectype.o Python/Python-ast.o Python/asdl.o Python/ast.o Python/bltinmodule.o Python/ceval.o Python/compile.o Python/codecs.o Python/errors.o Python/frozen.o Python/frozenmain.o Python/future.o Python/getargs.o Python/getcompiler.o Python/getcopyright.o Python/getmtime.o Python/getplatform.o Python/getversion.o Python/graminit.o Python/import.o Python/importdl.o Python/marshal.o Python/modsupport.o Python/mystrtoul.o Python/mysnprintf.o Python/pyarena.o Python/pyfpe.o Python/pystate.o Python/pythonrun.o Python/structmember.o Python/symtable.o Python/sysmodule.o Python/traceback.o Python/getopt.o Python/pystrtod.o Python/dynload_shlib.o Python/thread.o Modules/config.o Modules/getpath.o Modules/main.o Modules/gcmodule.o Modules/threadmodule.o Modules/signalmodule.o Modules/posixmodule.o Modules/errnomodule.o Modules/pwdmodule.o Modules/_sre.o Modules/_codecsmodule.o Modules/zipimport.o Modules/symtablemodule.o Modules/xxsubtype.o -lutil -lm; ln -f libpython2.5.so libpython2.5.so; else cc -shared -pthread -o libpython2.5.so Modules/_typesmodule.o Modules/getbuildinfo.o Parser/acceler.o Parser/grammar1.o Parser/listnode.o Parser/node.o Parser/parser.o Parser/parsetok.o Parser/bitset.o Parser/metagrammar.o Parser/firstsets.oParser/grammar.o Parser/pgen.o Parser/myreadline.o Parser/tokenizer.o Objects/abstract.o Objects/boolobject.o Objects/bufferobject.o Objects/cellobject.o Objects/classobject.o Objects/cobject.o Objects/codeobject.o Objects/complexobject.o Objects/descrobject.o Objects/enumobject.o Objects/exceptions.o Objects/genobject.o Objects/fileobject.o Objects/floatobject.o Objects/frameobject.o Objects/funcobject.o Objects/intobject.o Objects/iterobject.o Objects/listobject.o Objects/longobject.o Objects/dictobject.o Objects/methodobject.o Objects/moduleobject.o Objects/object.o Objects/obmalloc.o Objects/rangeobject.o Objects/setobject.o Objects/sliceobject.o Objects/stringobject.o Objects/structseq.o Objects/tupleobject.o Objects/typeobject.o Objects/weakrefobject.o Objects/unicodeobject.o Objects/unicodectype.o Python/Python-ast.o Python/asdl.o Python/ast.o Python/bltinmodule.o Python/ceval.o Python/compile.o Python/codecs.o Python/errors.o Python/frozen.o Python/frozenmain.o Python/future.o Python/getargs.o Python/getcompiler.o Python/getcopyright.o Python/getmtime.o Python/getplatform.o Python/getversion.o Python/graminit.o Python/import.o Python/importdl.o Python/marshal.o Python/modsupport.o Python/mystrtoul.o Python/mysnprintf.o Python/pyarena.o Python/pyfpe.o Python/pystate.o Python/pythonrun.o Python/structmember.o Python/symtable.o Python/sysmodule.o Python/traceback.o Python/getopt.o Python/pystrtod.o Python/dynload_shlib.o Python/thread.o Modules/config.o Modules/getpath.o Modules/main.o Modules/gcmodule.o Modules/threadmodule.o Modules/signalmodule.o Modules/posixmodule.o Modules/errnomodule.o Modules/pwdmodule.o Modules/_sre.o Modules/_codecsmodule.o Modules/zipimport.o Modules/symtablemodule.o Modules/xxsubtype.o -lutil -lm; fi /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libpthread.a(thr_syscalls.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/lib/libpthread.a: could not read symbols: Bad value *** Error code 1 *If I disable THREADING however, it compiles successfully.* Compiling ruby18 (not python25) with THREADING enabled or disabled, I get the same error, so I guess you are right about the -pthread flag. Sorin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 20:17:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E715C1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byshenknet@byshenk.net) Received: from core.byshenk.net (core.byshenk.net [62.58.73.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2C98FC25 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byshenknet@byshenk.net) Received: from core.byshenk.net (localhost.aoes.com [127.0.0.1]) by core.byshenk.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QKGmoC036131; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:16:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from byshenknet@core.byshenk.net) Received: (from byshenknet@localhost) by core.byshenk.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0QKGl5J036130; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:16:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from byshenknet) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:16:47 +0100 From: Greg Byshenk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126201647.GE790@core.byshenk.net> References: <497E0D55.3060006@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497E0D55.3060006@delphij.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on core.byshenk.net Cc: d@delphij.net, Xian Chen Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:17:17 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:21:57AM -0800, Xin LI wrote: > Xian Chen wrote: > > I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. > > > > But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP > > errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if using > > WinSCP. > > > > Any clues for this? > My guess is that you have specified an incorrect port number. Try tcpdump? Another possibility, IIRC, is a bad ssh hostkey (I haven't used WinSCP in quite some time, but I recall that its error messages are not particularly informative). You can also check to see if you can reach the server. Try a plain telnet to port 22. You won't actually be able to establish a connection if you aren't running ssh, but you should see something like: Connected to . Escape character is '^]'. SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901 -- greg byshenk - gbyshenk@byshenk.net - Leiden, NL From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 20:41:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5760B1065676; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665C98FC1B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPSA id 232585313; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Message-ID: <497E1FE6.8050108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:41:10 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090118) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@freebsd.org References: <1232806983.00065540.1232794801@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1232806983.00065540.1232794801@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:41:08 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > BIND on my new router (7.1-STABLE, BIND 9.4.3-P1) shows bunch of > errors on every start and doesn't answer on requests for 30-60 seconds > after that. Errors are like this: > > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1567: unexpected error: > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: internal_send: 193.0.14.129#53: Device not configured > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/errno2result.c:111: unexpected error: > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: unable to convert errno to isc_result: 6: Device not configured > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1567: unexpected error: > Jan 24 12:18:12 gateway named[1455]: internal_send: 193.0.14.129#53: Device not configured > > Also, mpd5 creates two NG interfaces (ng0 and ng1) on startup to connect to two > providers. ENXIO reported by many netgraph nodes if they receiving data while not configured. I have found small time window in mpd5 operation when interface is UP and configured, but IP flow is not enabled yet. I have made small change in mpd5 CVS which should close that window. I hope it will help you. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00910656EB for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BF88FC23 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8B541b0070ldTLk53M3wsN; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:03:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8M3h1b00a4Mx3R23QM3knJ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:03:54 +0000 Message-ID: <497E252C.2010502@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:03:40 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <4978CDE3.4040700@comcast.net> <4978E202.70408@samsco.org> <4978E4AA.8050601@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4978E4AA.8050601@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr driver issues in 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:03:57 -0000 Steve Polyack wrote: > Scott Long wrote: >> The fix for this that I was thinking of is already in 7.1. There >> might still be a driver bug, but I'm leaning more towards the >> controller simply being busy. Do you have a reproducible test case >> that I could >> try? >> >> Scott >> So far, I have not been able to reliably reproduce this. It pops up every now and then during our backups, which at the moment aren't that disk intensive. I'll let you know if I come across anything else. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:52:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F76B106571E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mah@jump-ing.de) Received: from mail.ud03.udmedia.de (ud03.udmedia.de [194.117.254.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DCA8FC2C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mah@jump-ing.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; q=dns/txt; s= beta; bh=9UfXtxmUku2LPO9OczgEUyZozAILz310IgElUI+uF5E=; b=QkOrGgH eanGRnrMMB1ljngpymq/biCUCaDMc8R75ObhUTSZkYZpp6ehdgQsMHHZW8ByEpok P4a6TzbTvKc+A5ivvYnpCPEbIM9kj1pqaBJ/IAbzV1fktLce0Mp77w5PwJ4jhIkY P+1pkw5twYmQNgvYIMdNS6MRptPjAaGpgEH4= Received: (qmail 15194 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 23:26:04 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.50?) (ud03?291p1@78.42.122.63) by mail.ud03.udmedia.de with ESMTPA; 26 Jan 2009 23:26:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1c80fd50-1e5c-4be7-a8dc-3f6f29c4f02a@exchange01.ecp.noc> References: <1c80fd50-1e5c-4be7-a8dc-3f6f29c4f02a@exchange01.ecp.noc> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9B0861C2-EF09-4FC4-A8E4-51C654117B98@jump-ing.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Markus Hitter Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:26:02 +0100 To: Oliver Lehmann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recently happend kernel panics regarding usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:47 -0000 Am 25.01.2009 um 11:12 schrieb Oliver Lehmann: > I'm experiencing recently happend kernel panics while making bacula > backups on my external USB harddisk. It first happened some days ago > while I was running 6.4-PRERLEASE. I then updated to 6.4-STABLE and > enabled all the kernel debugging stuff. Looking at your screenshots, I'm getting plenty of these g_vfs_done() = 5 errors with an ordinary pen drive on various stages of stable/7 as well. The pen drive works flawlessly on other computers. Same for another pen drive I tried for verification. If you throw the EHCI driver out of the kernel your drive will use either OHCI or UHCI (both are slow). This seems to help, at least for the limited things I use this pen drive now. The good thing is, you obviously had a FreeBSD installation which worked fine with USB 2.0 drives. This would be a good starting point for the search of a fix. Any chance you can get back to that state? If the panics appeared without any change on the system, could you stress test this drive a little on another computer? MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:11:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D79106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2CE8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so2007093ewy.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr4025194ebb.160.1233011459991; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from kevin (not.enough.unixsluts.com [76.10.166.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y34sm23070816iky.4.2009.01.26.15.10.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:10:58 -0800 (PST) From: "SDH Support" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: <003301c9800b$4db8ebd0$e92ac370$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acl/6asDh2vI6DqeQZuqGTm+Otq0igAIWEOA Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@stardothosting.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:11:02 -0000 > > Hi All, > > I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. > > But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP > errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if > using > WinSCP. > > Any clues for this? Tcpdump on both boxes. -w to a file and analyze w/ ipsumdump. --- Kevin Systems Administrator www.stardothosting.com/linux-vps-hosting From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:29:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB6B106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6A38FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so4446676fgb.35 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fmr1U+BGYeFkn9Wzk8mIdKFjgOFmjfyvQL/yJJCBWUw=; b=SIX8EhIYmnQqBUo5cRRGkA4HNbSPIsENOWd3w+AbbFGA6ggqyGiBMoo5Owajmo0yRm WpwtERQNau3SeSK9n/KGUDwHJWF8MIa/Lvw0cE9xCVdP7OJ+zoif+egH/D6aF7UJGfo0 5HAGdomOfwS+dRRz0fMyTW0KaPh3Mj2DHCkj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JORH30qql3Bsfimm0a731v2K9daS5AoVwddrb5FEnsxMOCHt3nwK3NWfKBO2hzkKOe 3x3w0Jd+82/2mjPsJWEK/Ag9iAES39vVBdjl4/lhymara1++HejmpBPi9uWXxc59dXg8 qQ+EnHs3bi4RBxLwgF8Cn/SaceN2II01ZCYJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.194 with SMTP id b2mr3031316faq.81.1233012555211; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003301c9800b$4db8ebd0$e92ac370$@com> References: <003301c9800b$4db8ebd0$e92ac370$@com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901261529y4d03d461l2629325c643bdda4@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: admin@stardothosting.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:17 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:10 PM, SDH Support wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. >> >> But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP >> errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if >> using >> WinSCP. >> >> Any clues for this? > > Tcpdump on both boxes. -w to a file and analyze w/ ipsumdump. > I don't think he'll be able to tcpdump on the windows box. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:45:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B0106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB58FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so2029628ewy.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.38.17 with SMTP id l17mr4769686ebl.83.1233013500756; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from kevin (not.enough.unixsluts.com [76.10.166.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c24sm23099728ika.5.2009.01.26.15.44.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: "SDH Support" To: "'Glen Barber'" References: <003301c9800b$4db8ebd0$e92ac370$@com> <4ad871310901261529y4d03d461l2629325c643bdda4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310901261529y4d03d461l2629325c643bdda4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01c98010$0e0e9ac0$2a2bd040$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcmADeh5RlSWeVxWTdKPtd7baWlWVgAAf1pQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@stardothosting.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:45:02 -0000 > I don't think he'll be able to tcpdump on the windows box. There are tcpdump equivalents such as wireshark and windump. --- Kevin Systems Administrator www.stardothosting.com/linux-vps-hosting From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:49:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F5A106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5178FC22 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so249035fxm.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:49:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X23KCnecXTYN81mwNqV1RHnZwIlBDlYAok7nXIqhQ/k=; b=ZaWIwZU73ZY1ig0a9PBwbOGspuk+ebBT27K526ENPwToxLagbzH/R8I+v2RiwV2NBs /M/Xq3k4FlK3qDYUuX5uwp0JF41TbufmssttU7GshmOK74pHNlVrxxMvSj3M0tlKJ/3T d7pc1AH+NzviRi+NtNthtEvHLKrydmiJSpW80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hDTeT65UkphNYs3U1aLQ+Oj98yDtd/UG4yzN51M2aEvzVjs5piZ1pJafWbmXXhYEDz FliYTAj6XcHxHG9twBxDCQUNf2mgKeusWYGj4fUjPB4ImIk8Wzt4gKUzw9a3hjfjkJ1o HxPbBz+eAC75sd+NIEejRZUR3RjEmiDcMJfBg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.211 with SMTP id g19mr749252fap.39.1233013791714; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:49:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003c01c98010$0e0e9ac0$2a2bd040$@com> References: <003301c9800b$4db8ebd0$e92ac370$@com> <4ad871310901261529y4d03d461l2629325c643bdda4@mail.gmail.com> <003c01c98010$0e0e9ac0$2a2bd040$@com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901261549t3554a786i70948666d16b0242@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: admin@stardothosting.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:49:53 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM, SDH Support wrote: > >> I don't think he'll be able to tcpdump on the windows box. > > > There are tcpdump equivalents such as wireshark and windump. > Yeah, I was replied to off-list with that information. I stand corrected, and apologize. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 00:38:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B171065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9A68FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (67.158.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.158.67]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 74FC3633301 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:38:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A456BFF0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:38:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:38:36 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127013836.532b72c3@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [7.1] sysinstall fdisk breaks Mac Os X bootcamp partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:38:43 -0000 Hi, I've installed FreeBSD on my MacBook Pro via bootcamp and sysinstall breaks the partitions: Mac os X is not able to see his partition any more. Only the freebsd slice is bootable. - bootcamp to make a 'windows' (tm) partition, - boot on the FreeBSD's dvd and install it. I didn't notice when i made the installation but the 7.1 dvd see the partitions as: Name Ptype Desc Subtype - 12 unused 0 ad4p1 5 unknown 0 ad4p2 5 unknown 0 - 12 unused 0 ad4p3 5 unknown 0 - 12 unused 0 FreeBSD 7.0 see: Name Ptype Desc Subtype - 12 unused 0 ad4s2 4 unknown 175 - 12 unused 0 ad4s3 7 fat 11 - 12 unused 0 And the installation works fine with 7.0 (on ad4s3) I've updated to 7.1-STABLE (kernel GENERIC) and the sysinstall's fdisk now see the drive exactly like 7.0. Hmmm... Well, do not use 7.1 to install FreeBSD on a Mac via bootcamp. Regards. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 02:58:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75FA106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2416D8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A5DA8.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.93.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R2wJoZ036280; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:58:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R2w9Bf075922; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:58:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QKs31N054621; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:55:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200901262055.n0QKs31N054621@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Xian Chen From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:45:56 EST." Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:54:03 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:58:22 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Xian Chen > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:45:56 -0500 > Message-id: Xian Chen wrote: > Hi All, > > I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. > > But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP > errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail if using > WinSCP. > > Any clues for this? on FreeBSD: man sftp says -v option exists man ssh also offers -v so try both those from Win/Lose/Mickesoft (*), Also ref. man sshd try kill -9 `cat /var/run/sshd.pid` or hash out sshd line in /etc/inetd.conf & then kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` & then run as root /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d & more /var/run/auth.log (*) PS I hate MS & dont use it, but doesnt invalidate debug stuff above though, except you might need to start ssh from a command line to add a parameter, rather than just clicking. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:15:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0800A106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13058FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRgHg-000OO4-HX for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:14:48 +0800 Message-ID: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:14:55 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:15:18 -0000 Hello, I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst = 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? Balgaa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:37:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD24106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E1A8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A8628448 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:37:37 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67029EB7354; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:37:37 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZGoQOF6yCmyk; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:37:32 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (c-67-188-86-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.86.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2CA6EB7224; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:37:30 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzYm5ymrcQg9u0RD1ABJjVwzhbUpNURufSTFlElZMKmLcntGvGQU4IA8FPYsaWP5s COBc4qaVzIEivCHlSZIsg== Message-ID: <497E9D97.8040505@delphij.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:37:27 -0800 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Balgansuren Batsukh References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> In-Reply-To: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: > Hello, > > I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. > > Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? I think you don't need to put explicit speed option, the system *should* negotiate for you. Which NIC are you using? Is it 'up'? Some NICs would stay at 10Mbps if not 'up'. Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl+nZcACgkQi+vbBBjt66CPSgCfUmpuR751q4Vu4rKQ1w1jGu4F Q3IAn2wNzF43aIsZSY0pQ6w7f7v90P/W =5dGG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:37:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BF41065704 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from hedwig.simons-rock.edu (hedwig.simons-rock.edu [208.81.88.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8968FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from cesium.hyperfine.info (c2.8d.5646.static.theplanet.com [70.86.141.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hedwig.simons-rock.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43AE2BB377; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:37:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:37:50 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: Balgansuren Batsukh Message-ID: <20090127053750.GJ58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:37:54 -0000 On 2009-01-27 01:14:55PM +0800, Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: > Hello, > > I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. > > Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? > > Balgaa Cisco is always weird about autonegotiation. (I have linux boxes that fail it every once in a while too). If you want, you can specify media type under the 'ifconfig_xyn =' line in rc.conf: ifconfig_em0 = "inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 polling \ media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" -- =========================================================== Peter C. Lai | Bard College at Simon's Rock Systems Administrator | 84 Alford Rd. Information Technology Svcs. | Gt. Barrington, MA 01230 USA peter AT simons-rock.edu | (413) 528-7428 =========================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:47:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF03106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063E68FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRgHf-000OO4-IB for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:14:48 +0800 Message-ID: <002701c9803e$3b1ace70$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:12:42 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:47:42 -0000 Hello, I have been using FreeBSD-7.0STABLE with BIND-9.4.2 ( i guess, forget to = check before upgrade) up to 2008-01-26 (yesterday). But after upgrade FreeBSD-7.0STABLE-->FreeBSD-7.1STABLE everything goes = wrong. 1.BIND can't start anymore and giving me following message at = /var/log/messages: . . . Jan 27 12:30:20 ns kernel: ad4: 152587MB at ata2-master SATA150 Jan 27 12:30:20 ns kernel: acd0: CDRW at ata3-master SATA150 Jan 27 12:30:20 ns kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Jan 27 12:30:21 ns savecore: no dumps found Jan 27 12:30:21 ns named[516]: starting BIND 9.4.3-P1 -c named.conf -t = /var/named -u bind Jan 27 12:30:21 ns named[516]: could not get query source dispatcher = (0.0.0.0#53) Jan 27 12:30:21 ns named[516]: loading configuration: address in use Jan 27 12:30:21 ns named[516]: exiting (due to fatal error) Jan 27 12:30:37 ns kernel: bge0: link state changed to UP Jan 27 12:31:07 ns kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 122.254.1x.x:53 = from 209.85.146.135:9484 Jan 27 12:31:07 ns kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 122.254.1x.x:53 = from 122.254.122.41:1027 Jan 27 12:31:07 ns kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 122.254.1x.x:53 = from 122.254.122.45:62566 . . . 2.I tried to load from command line but same result: ns# /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named/ -c named.conf -d9 -f -g 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.632 starting BIND 9.4.3-P1 -t /var/named/ -c = named.conf -d9 -f -g 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.632 found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.633 using up to 4096 sockets 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.639 loading configuration from '/named.conf' 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 set maximum stack size to 67108864: success 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 set maximum data size to 536870912: success 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 set maximum core size to 9223372036854775807: = success 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 set maximum open files to -1: success 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [49152, = 65535] 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.640 using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [49152, = 65535] 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 no IPv6 interfaces found 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 listening on IPv4 interface bge0, = 122.254.1x.x#53 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 clientmgr @0x2853f000: create 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 clientmgr @0x2853f000: createclients 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 clientmgr @0x2853f000: create new 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 client @0x28601000: create 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 clientmgr @0x2853f000: createclients 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 clientmgr @0x2853f000: create new 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.642 client @0x28641000: create 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.645 /named.conf:20: using specific query-source = port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.646 could not get query source dispatcher = (0.0.0.0#53) 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.646 load_configuration: address in use 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.646 loading configuration: address in use 27-Jan-2009 12:56:04.646 exiting (due to fatal error) ns# 3.named.conf: ----------------- acl boldsoft { 202.17x.x.x; 202.17x.x.x; 122.254.1x.x; = 127.0.0.1; }; options { directory "/etc/namedb"; auth-nxdomain yes; listen-on { 122.254.1x.x; }; allow-query { any; }; allow-transfer { boldsoft; }; allow-recursion { any; }; version "None of your business!"; notify yes; allow-notify { boldsoft; }; query-source address * port 53; }; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; allow-query { any; }; file "master/localhost.rev"; }; . . . 4.netstat -an or sockstat -4 result: ns# netstat -an Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address = (state) tcp4 0 48 122.254.1x.x.22 122.254.93.23.58663 = ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 122.254.1x.x.63442 130.94.149.166.5999 = TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 122.254.1x.x.22 122.254.93.23.54514 = ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 122.254.1x.x.49853 128.205.32.21.5999 = ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 122.254.1x.x.22 122.254.93.23.53108 = ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 *.22 *.* LISTEN udp4 0 0 *.514 *.* Active UNIX domain sockets Address Type Recv-Q Send-Q Inode Conn Refs Nextref Addr c3ea3150 stream 0 0 0 c3ea32a0 0 0 c3ea32a0 stream 0 0 0 c3ea3150 0 0 c3ea3b28 stream 0 0 0 c3ea37e0 0 0 c3ea37e0 stream 0 0 0 c3ea3b28 0 0 c3ea30a8 stream 0 0 0 0 0 0 c3ea33f0 stream 0 0 0 c3ea3000 0 0 c3ea3000 stream 0 0 0 c3ea33f0 0 0 c3ea4000 stream 0 0 c3ea2114 0 0 0 = /var/run/devd.pipe c3ea3888 dgram 0 0 c4041bdc 0 0 0 = /var/named/var/run/log c3ea3930 dgram 0 0 c4041cf0 0 0 0 = /var/run/log c3ea39d8 dgram 0 0 c4041e04 0 0 0 = /var/run/logpriv c3ea3a80 dgram 0 0 c4043000 0 0 0 = /var/run/log ns# sockstat -4 USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN = ADDRESS balgaa sshd 792 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:58663 root sshd 789 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:58663 balgaa sshd 755 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:54514 root sshd 752 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:54514 root cvsup 748 4 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:49853 = 128.205.32.21:5999 balgaa sshd 734 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:53108 root sshd 718 3 tcp4 122.254.1x.x:22 = 122.254.93.23:53108 root sshd 632 3 tcp4 *:22 *:* root syslogd 451 8 udp4 *:514 *:* ns# 5./etc/rc.conf: ns# more /etc/rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu May 8 23:42:32 2008 # added by xorg-libraries port local_startup=3D"/usr/local/etc/rc.d" font8x14=3D"NO" font8x16=3D"swiss-8x16" font8x8=3D"swiss-8x8" hostname=3D"ns.xxx.mn" ifconfig_bge0=3D"inet 122.254.1x.x netmask 255.255.255.224" defaultrouter=3D"122.254.1x.x" keymap=3D"us.iso" moused_enable=3D"YES" moused_flags=3D"-3" moused_port=3D"/dev/psm0" moused_type=3D"auto" saver=3D"logo" sshd_enable=3D"YES" usbd_enable=3D"YES" sendmail_enable=3D"NONE" log_in_vain=3D"YES" named_enable=3D"YES" #named_flags=3D"-u bind -t /etc/namedb/sandbox -c named.conf -d 9" named_flags=3D"-c named.conf" #syslogd_flags=3D"-ss -l /etc/namedb/sandbox/dev/log" #named_pidfile=3D"/var/named/run/named/pid" # Must set this in = named.conf as well named_uid=3D"bind" # User to run named as named_chrootdir=3D"/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to = auto-chroot it) named_chroot_autoupdate=3D"YES" # Automatically install/update = chrooted # components of named. See = /etc/rc.d/named. named_symlink_enable=3D"YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file 6.If I change port number like to 5353 then BIND start normally. I tried = several times reboot system, doesn't help too. 7.uname -a=20 FreeBSD ns.boldsoft.mn 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #2: Mon Jan 26 = 22:56:56 ULAT 2009 balgaa@ns.xxx.mn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DNS i386 I guess problem with BIND-9.4.3-P1?=20 Any suggestion? Regards, Balgaa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:51:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ED81065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from avocado.salatschuessel.net (avocado.salatschuessel.net [78.111.72.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDEE78FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: (qmail 52414 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jan 2009 05:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (78.111.72.187) by avocado.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 27 Jan 2009 05:51:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:51:08 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Markus Hitter Message-Id: <20090127065108.45623019.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <9B0861C2-EF09-4FC4-A8E4-51C654117B98@jump-ing.de> References: <1c80fd50-1e5c-4be7-a8dc-3f6f29c4f02a@exchange01.ecp.noc> <9B0861C2-EF09-4FC4-A8E4-51C654117B98@jump-ing.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recently happend kernel panics regarding usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:51:13 -0000 Markus Hitter wrote: > If you throw the EHCI driver out of the kernel your drive will use > either OHCI or UHCI (both are slow). This seems to help, at least for > the limited things I use this pen drive now. I'm not sure, that this g_vfs_done is related to the panic. I've attached the drive to an uhci drived port on the same machine, started an fsck and I've got an immediate panic: trying to sleep while sleeping is prohibited If I remember it correctly. The driver has some power saving feature which shuts the drive down if it is not used for some time and spins it up when a request arrives. But yesterday I powered the drive up... waited some secunds and started then a fsck. So I guess it was not in a "shutdown" state - So I wonder who requested a sleep ;) -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:06:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11D8106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::1c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36508FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53007114027; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (not verified)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC801E6064; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R66l5d094655; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:06:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200901270606.n0R66l5d094655@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Balgansuren Batsukh From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:12:42 +0800." <002701c9803e$3b1ace70$c701000a@engineer> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:06:47 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mx.isc.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:58 -0000 Remove "query-source address * port 53;" and fix your firewall. 2509. [bug] Specifying a fixed query source port was broken. [RT #19051] Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:07:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B9E106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA338FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRh6N-000Oem-LK for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:07:11 +0800 Message-ID: <005001c98045$8cf672b0$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <497E9D97.8040505@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:07:35 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:07:40 -0000 For example here: ns# ifconfig -a -------------- bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 00:1e:c9:2f:15:20 inet 122.254.1x.x netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 122.254.1x.x media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 uname -a --------- FreeBSD ns.boldsoft.mn 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #2: Mon Jan 26 22:56:56 ULAT 2009 balgaa@ns.xxx.mn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DNS i386 hostname="ns.xxx.mn" ifconfig_bge0="inet 122.254.1x.x netmask 255.255.255.224" defaultrouter="122.254.1x.x" Balgaa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xin LI" To: "Balgansuren Batsukh" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst >> 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. >> >> Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? > > I think you don't need to put explicit speed option, the system *should* > negotiate for you. > > Which NIC are you using? Is it 'up'? Some NICs would stay at 10Mbps if > not 'up'. > > Cheers, > - -- > Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl+nZcACgkQi+vbBBjt66CPSgCfUmpuR751q4Vu4rKQ1w1jGu4F > Q3IAn2wNzF43aIsZSY0pQ6w7f7v90P/W > =5dGG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:12:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB13106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912908FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRhB2-000Ogs-Ji for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:12:00 +0800 Message-ID: <006301c98046$392ee350$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:12:24 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem followup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:12:29 -0000 Installed using pkd_add or ports BIND-9.6.0-P1 working fine. 1.But seems can't run under chroot well: ---------------------------------------------------------- Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: starting BIND 9.6.0-P1 -c named.conf -t = /var/named -u bind Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: built with '--localstatedir=3D/var' = '--disable-linux-caps' '--with-randomdev=3D/dev/random' = '--disable-openssl-version-check' '--without-openssl' = '--with-libxml2=3D/usr/local' '--with-idn=3D/usr/local' = '--with-libiconv=3D/usr/local' '--enable-threads' = '--prefix=3D/usr/local' '--mandir=3D/usr/local/man' = '--infodir=3D/usr/local/info/' '--build=3Di386-portbld-freebsd7.1' = 'build_alias=3Di386-portbld-freebsd7.1' 'CC=3Dcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 = -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS=3D = -rpath=3D/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CXX=3Dc++' 'CXXFLAGS=3D-O2 = -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: none:0: open: /usr/local/etc/rndc.key: = file not found Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: couldn't add command channel = 127.0.0.1#953: file not found Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: the working directory is not writable . . . . Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: running 2./etc/rc.conf ------------------- named_enable=3D"YES" named_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a = different one. named_flags=3D"-c named.conf" named_uid=3D"bind" # User to run named as named_chrootdir=3D"/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to = auto-chroot it) named_chroot_autoupdate=3D"YES" # Automatically install/update = chrooted # components of named. See = /etc/rc.d/named. named_symlink_enable=3D"YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file 3./etc/rc./named stop -------------------------------- named not running? (check /var/run/named/pid). 4.ns# /usr/local/sbin/named -v BIND 9.6.0-P1 Any suggestion to fix some cosmetic problem? Balgaa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:26:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6171065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEA08FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.196] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0R5nLqd080354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:49:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <85A5C570-5F81-4D6D-8D62-08FFC44DA5F7@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: freebsd-stable Stable In-Reply-To: <200901262055.n0QKs31N054621@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:49:21 -0800 References: <200901262055.n0QKs31N054621@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:08 -0000 On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:54, Julian Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From: Xian Chen >> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:45:56 -0500 >> Message-id: > > > > Xian Chen wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I can use scp to move files from a linux to my Freebsd machine. >> >> But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP >> errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail >> if using >> WinSCP. >> >> Any clues for this? > > on FreeBSD: > man sftp says -v option exists > man ssh also offers -v > so try both those from Win/Lose/Mickesoft (*), > Also ref. > man sshd > try > kill -9 `cat /var/run/sshd.pid` > or hash out sshd line in /etc/inetd.conf & then > kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` > & then run as root > /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d > & > more /var/run/auth.log > > (*) PS I hate MS & dont use it, but doesnt invalidate debug stuff > above > though, except you might need to start ssh from a command line to > add a parameter, rather than just clicking. Here is how I have setup secure ftp for our users: LAFN now provides a ftp server that handles the ftp-ssl and ftp-tls protocols (RFC-2228). These protocols will encrypt the user id and password and can also be configured to encrypt the file contents if desired. The standard ftp port, 21, is used for both encrypted and non-encrypted ftp sessions. The older sftp, scp, and implicit ftp-ssl protocols are not supported. Obviously transfer times are longer if encryption is used. There are several Windows and Unix clients that support these protocols. The following clients are believed to work properly: CuteFTP Pro 2.0 Windows FileZilla 2.0.0 beta 5 Windows (GPL) SmartFTP 1.0 build 969 Windows WinSSLWrap 1.17 Windows WS_FTP Pro 7.5 Windows FTP Voyager Secure 9.1.0.1 Windows Lftp 2.5.2 Unix In addition there is a client available at http://bsdftpd-ssl.sc.ru that will work with Windows 9x, NT, 2000, and some Linux distributions. The only known client for Macintosh is available in the LAFN FAQ. It only works with OS-X and is the command line client from the fstftpd-ssl distribution. The client info above is a bit old, but is probably still accurate. There may be additional clients available now. On the server I use the bsdftpd-ssl port. It replaces the base ftpd. Several of the above clients are in regular use. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:26:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A861065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED438FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRhOg-000Ol6-QM for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:26:06 +0800 Message-ID: <009201c98048$31859b10$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: References: <200901270606.n0R66l5d094655@drugs.dv.isc.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:26:30 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:35 -0000 Thanks, it is working. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Andrews" To: "Balgansuren Batsukh" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem > > Remove "query-source address * port 53;" and fix your firewall. > > 2509. [bug] Specifying a fixed query source port was broken. > [RT #19051] > > Mark > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:29:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28561065676 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::1c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C98FC39 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A45D511401F; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (not verified)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE51E6064; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R6Tn7Q094859; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:29:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200901270629.n0R6Tn7Q094859@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Balgansuren Batsukh From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:12:24 +0800." <006301c98046$392ee350$c701000a@engineer> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:29:49 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mx.isc.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem followup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:55 -0000 In message <006301c98046$392ee350$c701000a@engineer>, "Balgansuren Batsukh" wri tes: > Installed using pkd_add or ports BIND-9.6.0-P1 working fine. > > 1.But seems can't run under chroot well: > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: starting BIND 9.6.0-P1 -c named.conf -t = > /var/named -u bind > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: built with '--localstatedir=3D/var' = > '--disable-linux-caps' '--with-randomdev=3D/dev/random' = > '--disable-openssl-version-check' '--without-openssl' = > '--with-libxml2=3D/usr/local' '--with-idn=3D/usr/local' = > '--with-libiconv=3D/usr/local' '--enable-threads' = > '--prefix=3D/usr/local' '--mandir=3D/usr/local/man' = > '--infodir=3D/usr/local/info/' '--build=3Di386-portbld-freebsd7.1' = > 'build_alias=3Di386-portbld-freebsd7.1' 'CC=3Dcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 = > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS=3D = > -rpath=3D/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CXX=3Dc++' 'CXXFLAGS=3D-O2 = > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: none:0: open: /usr/local/etc/rndc.key: = > file not found > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: couldn't add command channel = > 127.0.0.1#953: file not found As root run "rndc-confgen -a -t /var/named". > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: the working directory is not writable > Jan 27 13:54:08 ns named[36447]: running > > > 2./etc/rc.conf > ------------------- > named_enable=3D"YES" > named_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a = > different one. > named_flags=3D"-c named.conf" > named_uid=3D"bind" # User to run named as > named_chrootdir=3D"/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to = > auto-chroot it) > named_chroot_autoupdate=3D"YES" # Automatically install/update = > chrooted > # components of named. See = > /etc/rc.d/named. > named_symlink_enable=3D"YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file > > 3./etc/rc./named stop > -------------------------------- > named not running? (check /var/run/named/pid). > > 4.ns# /usr/local/sbin/named -v > BIND 9.6.0-P1 > > Any suggestion to fix some cosmetic problem? > > Balgaa > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:37:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BBA106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD6C8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [122.254.121.81] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRhZ8-000Oo2-1M for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:36:54 +0800 Message-ID: <00a901c98049$b341ed60$c701000a@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <497E9D97.8040505@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:17 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:37:22 -0000 Some servers running at 1000Mbps without problem same rc.conf. Hardware configuration is exactly same. $ ifconfig -a bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 00:1e:c9:3d:0b:49 inet 122.254.x.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 122.254.x.x media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 $ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xin LI" To: "Balgansuren Batsukh" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst >> 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. >> >> Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? > > I think you don't need to put explicit speed option, the system *should* > negotiate for you. > > Which NIC are you using? Is it 'up'? Some NICs would stay at 10Mbps if > not 'up'. > > Cheers, > - -- > Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl+nZcACgkQi+vbBBjt66CPSgCfUmpuR751q4Vu4rKQ1w1jGu4F > Q3IAn2wNzF43aIsZSY0pQ6w7f7v90P/W > =5dGG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 08:10:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225651065676 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outL.internet-mail-service.net (outl.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060BA8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D2924EC; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:57 -0800 (PST) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740992D600D; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497EBE30.8060106@elischer.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:32 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Lehmann References: <1c80fd50-1e5c-4be7-a8dc-3f6f29c4f02a@exchange01.ecp.noc> <9B0861C2-EF09-4FC4-A8E4-51C654117B98@jump-ing.de> <20090127065108.45623019.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <20090127065108.45623019.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Markus Hitter , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recently happend kernel panics regarding usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:10:34 -0000 Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Markus Hitter wrote: > >> If you throw the EHCI driver out of the kernel your drive will use >> either OHCI or UHCI (both are slow). This seems to help, at least for >> the limited things I use this pen drive now. > > I'm not sure, that this g_vfs_done is related to the panic. I've attached > the drive to an uhci drived port on the same machine, started an fsck and > I've got an immediate panic: > > trying to sleep while sleeping is prohibited when you hold a mutex in the kernel you are not allowed to go to sleep as other kernel actors may need that mutex.. OR a interrupt thread is trying to sleep. I doubt it has anything to do with a usb device hibernating. > > If I remember it correctly. The driver has some power saving feature > which shuts the drive down if it is not used for some time and spins it > up when a request arrives. But yesterday I powered the drive up... waited > some secunds and started then a fsck. So I guess it was not in a > "shutdown" state - So I wonder who requested a sleep ;) > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:05:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF50A106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1278012240=killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348A68FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1278012240=killing@multiplay.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=multiplay.co.uk; s=Multiplay; t=1233046192; x=1233650992; q=dns/txt; h=Received: Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=PiH2MU5PiPX+rKdGkMh1x VjgfqC8PXkM4V6gWiVjJIw=; b=NF8vbO4Dwa+nN6xh4XUBzyHlJK997B6OQSFXo p/XR1J1Kk589zcuPs4Hb26yg2Rqsr9GgqOwQjyoWaav5WkDm5escGBairwRIwAH7 d92xRMoWRcJMzdGvl1htd9WqlpsJOq1oQAjKNjHew70W9R8WWFWoeKhlwY/gqOHk OcC93g= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on mail1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, USER_IN_WHITELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from r2d2 by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (MDaemon PRO v9.6.6) with ESMTP id md50006880760.msg for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:51 +0000 X-Authenticated-Sender: Killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDRemoteIP: 85.236.106.102 X-Return-Path: prvs=1278012240=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6BEB103BC10F4C7FBF4A84D95A45B54E@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Peter C. Lai" , "Balgansuren Batsukh" References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <20090127053750.GJ58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:51 +0000 X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:52 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:05:28 -0000 We have never had a problem with FreeBSD and Cisco using em and bge. They do take a while to come up but that's just Cisco being Cisco. Regards Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C. Lai" > On 2009-01-27 01:14:55PM +0800, Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I saw by default all 6.x/7.x version can't connect to Cisco Catalyst 2970G/3750G switch at 1000Mbps speed. >> >> Only to need to put speed option keyword on /etc/rc.conf? ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:21:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8F106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19D8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10941 invoked by uid 399); 27 Jan 2009 09:21:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 27 Jan 2009 09:21:55 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497ED231.4030607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:21:53 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Balgansuren Batsukh References: <006301c98046$392ee350$c701000a@engineer> In-Reply-To: <006301c98046$392ee350$c701000a@engineer> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1STABLE w/BIND-9.4.3-P1 start problem followup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:21:56 -0000 Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: > Installed using pkd_add or ports BIND-9.6.0-P1 working fine. > > 1.But seems can't run under chroot well: The default configuration in FreeBSD (using /etc/rc.d/named) will set up the chroot directory, rndc, etc. for you. You can also use this setup for named from the ports, just update named_program in /etc/rc.conf. You will probably want the commented example for named_flags in /etc/defaults/rc.conf in /etc/rc.conf as well. hope this helps, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:44:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5431065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 176328FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 84284 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2009 10:18:12 -0000 Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (HELO localhost) (195.1.209.33) by bizet.nethelp.no with SMTP; 27 Jan 2009 10:18:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20090127.111352.74670679.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: killing@multiplay.co.uk From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: <6BEB103BC10F4C7FBF4A84D95A45B54E@multiplay.co.uk> References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <20090127053750.GJ58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> <6BEB103BC10F4C7FBF4A84D95A45B54E@multiplay.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: peter@simons-rock.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, balgaa@micom.mn Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:44:57 -0000 > We have never had a problem with FreeBSD and Cisco using em > and bge. They do take a while to come up but that's just > Cisco being Cisco. Same here. We use em interfaces with Cisco switches all the time, all ports configured with default which is autonegotiation. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:50:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00CF106568A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rblayzor.bulk@inoc.net) Received: from mail2.albyny.inoc.net (mail2.albyny.inoc.net [64.22.32.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FF98FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rblayzor.bulk@inoc.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=inoc.net; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date; b=Mcj3BujaTTvQTItFFUUV2apIGe/c+cKsRzjkyVAXE1SdUpbFJlfsJGJq6bNsUKBm4lM25zLBKHkk1zaLq0CEreyET0sZOTsgxg/1ooGnwLhoj47+PBX0BLeF0OyKhI1MbgrdToyI/IxKNHmditM0vcr690zrgq8To2Lhco66lXM=; Received: from void.ops.inoc.net (vanguard.noc.albyny.inoc.net [64.246.135.8]) by mail2.albyny.inoc.net (build v9.0.20) with ESMTP id 684668-1941382 for multiple; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:50:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Robert Blayzor To: Steven Hartland In-Reply-To: <6BEB103BC10F4C7FBF4A84D95A45B54E@multiplay.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <20090127053750.GJ58991@cesium.hyperfine.info> <6BEB103BC10F4C7FBF4A84D95A45B54E@multiplay.co.uk> Message-Id: <55917DE5-3874-484D-9168-4FE1BBE9D6FA@inoc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:50:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:50:04 -0000 On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: > We have never had a problem with FreeBSD and Cisco using em > and bge. They do take a while to come up but that's just > Cisco being Cisco. By default all ports participate in spanning-tree, which is probably any delay you're seeing. You can setup host ports by explicitly setting them up as access ports and then turning on "spanning-tree portfast". That makes the ports come up almost immediately. I've never had a problem with Intel (em/fxp) or Broadcom (bge/bce) using auto-neg on any Cisco switch made in the last 8-10 years. -- Robert Blayzor, BOFH INOC, LLC rblayzor@inoc.net http://www.inoc.net/~rblayzor/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:01:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC7E1065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9466D8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matheusber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2632051ywe.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:received :message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :importance; bh=MaWN9lVHUw8QWX++KSTPtbSxcVacj6uF8Z6dRnAM1Wk=; b=ERJqruGT33ueuN+xa3tgtKgD0FKhdux0ft09m37z1m8STJN2LT8sMvBP68fVlai7ru rrwCiNNxPUpxPvfAIoJPEzKrTimIvJN51oWBeKxAldk4jeKnPDzN6KRUcjfH6hxMcCmQ E4SMyVoJiM3rUnVZ0+HkzF4Wa/qcHwGG076EI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:importance; b=Px5nHUIYkK3Rz/R6GGIagvAqYlOHadplUnYgPapaSaSfqu87zTZvzuY4VQ5xcyRksp wlVCVBvZsd7DeenKGaMG85BLSolcRusYILH7rP8fxrWQHd5+w35h08ze4HS58fTytcs7 riE+/5j+2NqJSyyTHJ76p4uIW9o03k0rVoLuU= Received: by 10.100.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr1752681anc.139.1233090075064; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.homeunix.com ([189.71.8.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b14sm166745ana.56.2009.01.27.13.01.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:01:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: Nenhum_de_Nos Received: by cygnus.homeunix.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id 3AEBDB8061; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:01:05 -0300 (BRT) Received: from 189.92.18.120 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matheus) by cygnus.homeunix.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:01:05 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <279e722861c8078ffd689cdb05ed589e.squirrel@cygnus.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <9f05e876331608a1a4e047c30f9def32.squirrel@lamneth> <1232987268.18935.0.camel@polaris> <1232993722.6403.3.camel@mvn-desktop> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:01:05 -0200 (BRST) From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: cheap usb ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:01:17 -0000 I found one based on this controller: CE - DM9601 davicom. found this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=udav&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&format=html anyone ever used any of these ? the seller said some used some in linux, so I can imagine that it is ok in FreeBSD as well (I think ...) thanks, matheus -- We will call you cygnus, The God of balance you shall be From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:42:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437BE10656E6 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026068FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LRsvP-0005fD-Ew for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:44:39 +0000 Received: from [92.237.59.138] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LRsvO-0002GT-SX for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:44:38 +0000 Message-ID: <522E239C635342B0AB7935FB8A1B270B@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <200901262055.n0QKs31N054621@fire.js.berklix.net> <85A5C570-5F81-4D6D-8D62-08FFC44DA5F7@lafn.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:44:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:46:50 +0000 Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:24 -0000 >>> But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. = WinSCP >>> errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail =20 >>> if using WinSCP. Is there an entry /etc/hosts.allow allowing connections to the = applicable port? Jazz From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:48:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B438106572F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghostp@dzsy.org) Received: from s2.mcss.hu (s2.mcss.hu [87.229.26.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7CD8FC2F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghostp@dzsy.org) Received: from dzsy-note.dzsy.org (catv-89-134-221-18.catv.broadband.hu [89.134.221.18]) by s2.mcss.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D519A4E58C8 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:22:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <497F7B2B.8050408@dzsy.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:22:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sz=E9kv=F6lgyi_P=E9ter?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 laptop screen brightness control X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:48:58 -0000 Hello, Last week i was install FreeBSD on my Acer Exrensa 5620 laptop. Everything work fine except the monitor brightness control. If i disbale the ACPI on boot then i can controlled the brightness level with FN+left/right key, but without ACPI no battery status, ... Anyone has an idea wath is wrong? Or anyone have a howto/link how can i change the brigness level in console with ACPI controll commands or sysctl? Sorry about my English. Regards, Peter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:02:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9F01065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::1c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8698FC23 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4BBC114049 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (not verified)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C949E6072 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RM2eVi019229 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:02:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200901272202.n0RM2eVi019229@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: FreeBSD Stable From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:46:22 -0800." <497BC46E.8020209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:02:40 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mx.isc.org Cc: Subject: Looping: Re: BIND 9.4.3-P1: internal_send: 199.7.83.42#53: Device not configured, where 199.7.83.42 is RANDOM IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:55 -0000 Can the freebsd-stable subscriber at exchange.physicalsegment.com please stop looping email. If you want to re-inject email DO NOT use the To: or Cc: lines to determine where to send the email to. It just creates email loops. Mark Received: from mail pickup service by exchange.physicalsegment.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:33:34 +0000 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([69.147.83.53]) by tsplpt01.thespinney.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.2600.5512); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:08:47 +0000 In message <497BC46E.8020209@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <497BBE2C.5060103@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > >> Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> In message <497B9FF4.30605@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton writes: > >>>> Any time you are using NFS you should maintain the addresses of the > >>>> critical hosts in /etc/hosts. Yes, I realize that's anachronistic > >>>> (especially for a DNS guy) but it works. Obviously you should make > >>>> sure to update them as needed. > >>> Or keep a local copy of the zone which contains them. > >> I actually considered suggesting that option, but it's unclear to me > >> whether or not named would answer at all, even for a local zone, given > >> the situation described. > > > > named will always answer for local zones. > > > > b.t.w. BIND 9 primes when it attempts to recurse for the > > first time. > > Interesting, thanks! > > Doug > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:43:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49D610657EB for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@jellydonut.org) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ADF8FC1F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@jellydonut.org) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so2906974rnd.12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:43:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.73.16 with SMTP id v16mr2025935aga.65.1233096210897; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:43:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <522E239C635342B0AB7935FB8A1B270B@atlantis> References: <200901262055.n0QKs31N054621@fire.js.berklix.net> <85A5C570-5F81-4D6D-8D62-08FFC44DA5F7@lafn.org> <522E239C635342B0AB7935FB8A1B270B@atlantis> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1de79840901271443n560895f1u3a4cc42303d0c245@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Proto To: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:43:35 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: >>>> But, when I try to use WinSCP under windows, it always failed. WinSCP >>>> errors: "Network error: Connection refused". Both scp & sftp fail >>>> if using WinSCP. > > Is there an entry /etc/hosts.allow allowing connections to the applicable port? > > Jazz > If tcpwrappers were at fault I'd expect to see the connection open and then immediately close, not a connection-refused error. I'd lean more towards a network/port problem as some of the previous posters have mentioned. tcpdump would be a good tool here. -Proto From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:39:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9510656BB for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A058FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA9E28448 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:39:00 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BA2EB7F8E; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:39:00 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bk6YMx32sVm8; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:38:55 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (adsl-76-237-33-62.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.237.33.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70559EB7772; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:38:53 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EGWCS3W8C/nUhYOZpDnRn9GJhnRpmstvENwmMYugH3U3UcLoTwDgQqMpnfpOu/rpU xAcw8s7a8EdYGm1C4pd2A== Message-ID: <497F9B09.4080707@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:38:49 -0800 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Balgansuren Batsukh References: <002801c9803e$3bb0f3f0$c701000a@engineer> <497E9D97.8040505@delphij.net> <00a901c98049$b341ed60$c701000a@engineer> In-Reply-To: <00a901c98049$b341ed60$c701000a@engineer> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.x/7.x 1000BaseTX connection problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: > Some servers running at 1000Mbps without problem same rc.conf. > > Hardware configuration is exactly same. Hmm... That's strange, I never encountered such a problem with neither bge(4), bce(4) nor em(4). Perhaps, you can try manually set media to GbE? Another guess is that the cable could somehow have some problems? Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl/mwkACgkQi+vbBBjt66BkGACgk+HsUrhMPH5Q4VdLTqdQRtqJ xhoAoLNCvmcsyXZm+qbV8UUogBzbZX+L =Kvr4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 12:06:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38BB1065A16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F828FC4E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2732921ywe.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:06:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B4beGjBoSrK9ydIyesEHgmseXw0r/UJCQ724pRHQAps=; b=TxiO8DzDvCJchZCYtHnXoIdXua5IzOJPrzoyDGVlgmoUxDh5BMyxVrWEGN681XE8WH S+cothzcqr30lCgY4x6tbsuvEjd2RbPNRsx1OP5ta5ALNUOgjxvZRo0M4qlpQ1YE/fAS 8uZ9ywwaskDielJhd4hDEQkmvvVzlZaL4GHlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rLTLIC6eXUA3XkgHPr9ySJDqWzonpwiA0NjW1Sj/D1VnX2Xh+DHW76OFGCIi38B0C6 jfLQcMtrtKy0x4mwd1/sXVLh8+P09D+Nb9gafCXOYYCNGWp/aBF7xhGRICPhWpeYu+31 8MqwPKz0T6HqbrQhXLFB6A48EBC/WDylnCZyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.70 with SMTP id b6mr1390961ibd.33.1233143005439; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:43:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:43:25 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901280343u7167abb0xa30fdc0497cabc07@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: John Rushford Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Reuben , jjr@larush.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Mark Kirkwood Subject: Re: Broken loader on 7.1-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:07:05 -0000 Hi All, Any body find a solution to this? I have run into the same problem as John Rushford, installing on a HP Compaq DX2300 Microtower. After a make kernel, I boot into single user mode and end up this: atkbd0: [ITHREAD] Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec I expect to see my disk, ad0 being detected at ata-master SATA150, instead, i get: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem e.g. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 12:26:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF6D1065855 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144C58FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id OAA14270; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <49804F0C.3000400@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:52 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <497AF4C7.3080309@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <497AF4C7.3080309@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: problem with "cold" hardware? [Was: panic in callout_reset: bad link in callwheel] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:26:56 -0000 on 24/01/2009 13:00 Andriy Gapon said the following: [snip] > Additional info: > I recently added some new memory to this system. > The memory survived several passes of memtest86 before booting to > FreeBSD. It also survived one pass after the incident. > Still I wouldn't exclude a possibility of it being bad. I think that I established that the crash was because of hardware issue. I had another panic at a different place but with the similar diagnostics - bad pointer passed to a call. Fortunately, the second time the pointer was to a well-known long-lived object. So I was able to compare the bad pointer to an actual address. It turned out that a single bit was flipped. Then I realized that in both cases I saw panics after "very cold" boots, i.e. the system was powered down for more than 1 hour before the boot. So I performed memtest86 run again, this time also after a long power-off. And it reported lots of errors. I restarted memtest86 10 minutes later and then it could not find any errors in any tests. Previously I heard about problems with hardware running hot, but not with it being "cold". I put the word in quotes, because the system is in a room with normal room temperature. Any guesses what hardware part might be acting up like this? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 15:44:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E64106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC4E8FC2B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECCF41C734; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GRjg6lOnvea; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 1AFA441C69F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD354448E6; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:22:30 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128150840.E45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: HEADS UP: multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP jails merge to 7-STABLE ahead X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:44:12 -0000 Hi, I have a possible MFC candidate patch at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bz/20090128-02-jail7-mfc.diff to merge the multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP jails to 7-STABLE. My plan would be to do so during the weekend of 6-8th February 2009. In addition to what the patch says at the beginning (__FreeBSD_version bump), the patch also has the regenerated compat/freebsd32 sysctl stuff in it so that people can apply, compile and run it directly. For the merge this would be a second commit. For committers who want to review that I have done the merge right, it is an svn diff with mergeinfo included. For details about the patch, features, .. see the original commit message and follow-up a few days later (both in one post): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-December/000631.html Since then a few bug fixes went in, some older PRs were handled, ... Now is the time for you to try and review it for 7-STABLE, etc. /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb The greatest risk is not taking one. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA903106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlaroche@vt.edu) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4978FC21 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlaroche@vt.edu) Received: from steiner.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@steiner.cc.vt.edu [198.82.163.51]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0SDN4qs009107 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:04 -0500 Received: from auth.smtp.vt.edu (EHLO authsmtp2.cc.vt.edu) ([198.82.161.56]) by steiner.cc.vt.edu (MOS 3.10.2-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id KTH39457; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.94.11] (hc65243d6.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.67.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by authsmtp2.cc.vt.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0SDMwc8028353 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:04 -0500 Message-ID: <49805C20.9090109@vt.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:22:40 -0500 From: Nicholas LaRoche User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.56 authsmtp2.cc.vt.edu nlaroche@vt.edu 2 pass Cc: Subject: Mount cryptsetup-luks partition on 7.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:00:01 -0000 Has anyone seen any information on accessing a common cryptsetup-luks container created on Fedora from FreeBSD 7.x? Are there any other cross-platform (linux/freebsd) strategies that might work better? -Nick From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:05:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962C5106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2269E8FC26 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1217267nfh.33 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:05:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qk81qNWjtix5do8svxg8qnLlDcA/5KYHTDaGYl23nxc=; b=e0ZmzyAWns1In3yq7zj6RaXwB/LmsvytskpYRGPeRpqJllJhnnd6UYjl5X9OvU4pvS tEAWJIhUXGWnA3UmNQ0ejRvOQGhtUHzs4Fjv5lThpwsE6ABwgNlmmOJK5rsI8SXr4L6a JOO5WBe/TVgapRM7ZMoCY2yBuHDYovoKOYnfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fL2OXx9zyOIsWvJSJzK+aI9ihuleC6U+RXCre53i2ziaU2c8iOiqbFhRY/R/ej05vl bQZTzowTRYhqVdOBEAiLReonTl0sQXoVH6oxJVp4OxffPOXMb9m9K6Ib3YQwBSlXvhPD X0KfGckw1Gua2eo+NkQ/aD30l4AYq7rFFbX0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr700011fgb.32.1233158729152; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:05:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:05:29 +0300 Message-ID: From: pluknet To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: smp_tlb_shootdown bottleneck? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:05:30 -0000 Hi. Sometimes I see much contention in smp_tlb_shootdown while running sysbench: sysbench --test=fileio --num-threads=8 --file-test-mode=rndrd --file-total-size=3G run kern.smp.cpus: 8 FreeBSD 7.1-R CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 93.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 5.4% idle Mem: 11M Active, 2873M Inact, 282M Wired, 8K Cache, 214M Buf, 765M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 810 root 115 0 11568K 2408K RUN 3 0:04 89.60% sysbench 810 root 114 0 11568K 2408K CPU0 0 0:18 87.06% sysbench 810 root 114 0 11568K 2408K CPU2 2 0:18 86.67% sysbench 810 root 114 0 11568K 2408K CPU6 6 0:18 84.47% sysbench 810 root 114 0 11568K 2408K CPU3 3 0:04 84.08% sysbench 810 root 114 0 11568K 2408K CPU7 7 0:17 81.69% sysbench 810 root 113 0 11568K 2408K CPU4 4 0:17 78.08% sysbench 810 root 113 0 11568K 2408K CPU1 1 0:17 77.88% sysbench This high system load appears from time to time. Usually this sysbench test passed in a few seconds, and at this time it runs in more than 10 seconds. breaking to ddb while seen too much system load shows many sysbench threads waiting for a mutex in smp_tlb_shootdown: db> bt 100133 Tracing pid 810 tid 100133 td 0xffffff00032d56e0 cpustop_handler() at cpustop_handler+0x40 ipi_nmi_handler() at ipi_nmi_handler+0x30 trap() at trap+0x378 nmi_calltrap() at nmi_calltrap+0x8 --- trap 0x13, rip = 0xffffffff8074c912, rsp = 0xffffffffab79fff0, rbp = 0xffffffffb4acf6f0 --- smp_tlb_shootdown() at smp_tlb_shootdown+0x82 pmap_invalidate_range() at pmap_invalidate_range+0xae vfs_vmio_release() at vfs_vmio_release+0x120 getnewbuf() at getnewbuf+0x7be getblk() at getblk+0x308 cluster_read() at cluster_read+0xc5 ffs_read() at ffs_read+0x37d vn_read() at vn_read+0x17b dofileread() at dofileread+0xa1 kern_preadv() at kern_preadv+0x66 pread() at pread+0x58 syscall() at syscall+0x1ce Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xab --- syscall (475, FreeBSD ELF64, pread), rip = 0x800cf7b5c, rsp = 0x7ffffeff8e78, rbp = 0x7ffffeff8f60 --- db> bt 100132 Tracing pid 810 tid 100132 td 0xffffff00036426e0 cpustop_handler() at cpustop_handler+0x40 ipi_nmi_handler() at ipi_nmi_handler+0x30 trap() at trap+0x378 nmi_calltrap() at nmi_calltrap+0x8 --- trap 0x13, rip = 0xffffffff8048b49c, rsp = 0xffffffff80b564b0, rbp = 0xffffffffb4aca680 --- _mtx_lock_spin() at _mtx_lock_spin+0x6c _mtx_lock_spin_flags() at _mtx_lock_spin_flags+0x124 smp_tlb_shootdown() at smp_tlb_shootdown+0x58 pmap_invalidate_range() at pmap_invalidate_range+0xae vfs_vmio_release() at vfs_vmio_release+0x120 getnewbuf() at getnewbuf+0x7be getblk() at getblk+0x308 cluster_read() at cluster_read+0xc5 ffs_read() at ffs_read+0x37d vn_read() at vn_read+0x17b dofileread() at dofileread+0xa1 kern_preadv() at kern_preadv+0x66 pread() at pread+0x58 syscall() at syscall+0x1ce Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xab --- syscall (475, FreeBSD ELF64, pread), rip = 0x800cf7b5c, rsp = 0x7fffff1f9e78, rbp = 0x7fffff1f9f60 --- db> bt 100131 Tracing pid 810 tid 100131 td 0xffffff0003a75000 cpustop_handler() at cpustop_handler+0x40 ipi_nmi_handler() at ipi_nmi_handler+0x30 trap() at trap+0x378 nmi_calltrap() at nmi_calltrap+0x8 --- trap 0x13, rip = 0xffffffff8048b4a1, rsp = 0xffffffffab7a4ff0, rbp = 0xffffffffb4ac5680 --- _mtx_lock_spin() at _mtx_lock_spin+0x71 _mtx_lock_spin_flags() at _mtx_lock_spin_flags+0x124 smp_tlb_shootdown() at smp_tlb_shootdown+0x58 pmap_invalidate_range() at pmap_invalidate_range+0xae vfs_vmio_release() at vfs_vmio_release+0x120 getnewbuf() at getnewbuf+0x7be getblk() at getblk+0x308 cluster_read() at cluster_read+0xc5 ffs_read() at ffs_read+0x37d vn_read() at vn_read+0x17b dofileread() at dofileread+0xa1 kern_preadv() at kern_preadv+0x66 pread() at pread+0x58 syscall() at syscall+0x1ce Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xab --- syscall (475, FreeBSD ELF64, pread), rip = 0x800cf7b5c, rsp = 0x7fffff3fae78, rbp = 0x7fffff3faf60 --- Is that a normal behavior and if yes then how can I help with that? -- wbr, pluknet From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 17:35:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4121065675; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF758FC0A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B572541C67B; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:35:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VJKnmFXSPpYk; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:35:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 5D24241C679; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:35:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B854448E6; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090128150840.E45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> Message-ID: <20090128172923.S45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <20090128150840.E45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP jails merge to 7-STABLE ahead X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:35:08 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > Hi, > > I have a possible MFC candidate patch at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~bz/20090128-02-jail7-mfc.diff > > to merge the multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP jails to 7-STABLE. My plan would be > to do so during the weekend of 6-8th February 2009. > > In addition to what the patch says at the beginning (__FreeBSD_version > bump), the patch also has the regenerated compat/freebsd32 sysctl > stuff in it so that people can apply, compile and run it directly. > For the merge this would be a second commit. > > For committers who want to review that I have done the merge right, it > is an svn diff with mergeinfo included. > > For details about the patch, features, .. see the original commit > message and follow-up a few days later (both in one post): > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-December/000631.html > > Since then a few bug fixes went in, some older PRs were handled, ... > > Now is the time for you to try and review it for 7-STABLE, etc. One more thing that I had forgotten and was pointed at: sys/kern/kern_jail.c includes the __FBSDID() line. I just manually edited the patch to contain the proper CVS (not SVN) value. You may a) want to check that things apply cleanly and/or b) to sure to manually apply the hunk from the .rej. /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb The greatest risk is not taking one. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:45:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9E610657A0 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stef-list@memberwebs.com) Received: from mx.npubs.com (mail.wsfamily.com [209.66.100.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EA38FC24 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stef-list@memberwebs.com) Received: from mx.npubs.com (avhost [209.66.100.194]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEDD8C2AE1 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from northstar-srv2 (unknown [172.27.2.11]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7870A8C2A6F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:15:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Stef User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable References: <20090114012420.A59868C2D30@mx.npubs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090128181545.7870A8C2A6F@mx.npubs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Solved: Reproducible panic (page fault) in poll on 6.3-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stef@memberwebs.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:55 -0000 Stef Walter wrote: > I have a kernel panic that I can consistently trigger. After a short > while (5 to 30 minutes) with a certain connection pattern of UDP openvpn > connections the server crashes. > > I have a crash dump, and stack trace. It seems td->td_selq has been > corrupted (see below). Solved, sorta. This was caused by a missing 'options SMP' on a multicore machine. Cheers, Stef From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 19:22:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D0810656DA for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: from email.octopus.com.au (email.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E2B8FC2C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 85E601736A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:22:50 +1100 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on email.octopus.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from [10.20.30.100] (60.218.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.218.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: admin@email.octopus.com.au) by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8AE17255; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:22:46 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4980B072.3050205@modulus.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:22:26 +1100 From: Andrew Snow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andriy Gapon References: <497AF4C7.3080309@icyb.net.ua> <49804F0C.3000400@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <49804F0C.3000400@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with "cold" hardware? [Was: panic in callout_reset: bad link in callwheel] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:49 -0000 Andriy Gapon wrote: > Previously I heard about problems with hardware running hot, but not > with it being "cold". I put the word in quotes, because the system is in > a room with normal room temperature. > > Any guesses what hardware part might be acting up like this? Power supply. Give all the capacitors a visual check. Or you may be drawing too much power from your rated supply. - Andrew From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:54:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EA4106568B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: from mail.alameda.net (mail.alameda.net [194.55.105.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1538FC1F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: by mail.alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 895D11CC82; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:28:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:28:01 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Andrew Snow Message-ID: <20090128202801.GH75267@evil.alameda.net> References: <497AF4C7.3080309@icyb.net.ua> <49804F0C.3000400@icyb.net.ua> <4980B072.3050205@modulus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4980B072.3050205@modulus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1233779285.92041@1YCHHhvFtWoxqfxPiIsd1w X-ANI-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 895D11CC82.E67FA X-ANI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ANI-MailScanner-From: ulf@alameda.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: problem with "cold" hardware? [Was: panic in callout_reset: bad link in callwheel] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:54:58 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 06:22:26AM +1100, Andrew Snow wrote: > Andriy Gapon wrote: > >Previously I heard about problems with hardware running hot, but not > >with it being "cold". I put the word in quotes, because the system is in > >a room with normal room temperature. > > > >Any guesses what hardware part might be acting up like this? > > Power supply. Give all the capacitors a visual check. Or you may be > drawing too much power from your rated supply. Another thing could be bad soldering of the memory slot. It might not have a full contact when at room temperature, but as it heats up by 10-20C inside the case it might expand and give full contact. This could apply to copper runs on the board, contact points from the board to the memory slot, contact from the slot to the memory. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:40:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED01106567D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AAA8FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SLPTt0097181 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:25:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:25:29 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:25:29 +0300 (MSK) Cc: Subject: jail: external and localhost distinction X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:40:43 -0000 Dear colleagues, am I right concluding that under FreeBSD jail there is no way to attach two processes to the same port of external interface address and localhost? I tried to move rather standard two-tier nginx(ip:80)+apache(127.1:80) scheme into a jail and on apache start got [Thu Jan 29 00:09:32 2009] [crit] (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1 port 80 (this is under RELENG_7 if it's relevant) Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:54:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BD91065AE5 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: from email.octopus.com.au (email.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941DE8FC29 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3E59117DB0; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:54:35 +1100 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on email.octopus.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from [10.1.50.60] (ppp121-44-147-116.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net [121.44.147.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: admin@email.octopus.com.au) by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144CE17265; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:54:30 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4980D3D9.5060409@modulus.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:53:29 +1100 From: Andrew Snow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080523) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Morozovsky References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: jail: external and localhost distinction X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:37 -0000 Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > am I right concluding that under FreeBSD jail there is no way to attach two > processes to the same port of external interface address and localhost? > > I tried to move rather standard two-tier nginx(ip:80)+apache(127.1:80) scheme > into a jail and on apache start got In FreeBSD jails, the loopback interface doesn't exist - 127.0.0.1 is hardwired internally to point to the (external) jail IP. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:18:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9461065677 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06698FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SNIVv4021936; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:18:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0SNIVOd021935; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:18:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:18:31 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200901282318.n0SNIVOd021935@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marck@rinet.ru In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:18:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: jail: external and localhost distinction X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marck@rinet.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:18:34 -0000 Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > am I right concluding that under FreeBSD jail there is no way to attach two > processes to the same port of external interface address and localhost? It depends. Do those jailed processes have to communicate with each other, or only with the host system? If they do _not_ have to communicate with each other, it's easy. You have to put the second jail on a locahost IP address (not necessarily 172.1; you can create an alias on lo0 like 127.2 or similar). If they have to communicate with each other, it gets more complicated. If they need to communicate directly, you must put both jails on the same IP address, but then you cannot bind the processes to different IP addresses. Note that locahost is not handled specially within jails: If you try to bind a process to a localhost IP, it is forced to bind to the jail's IP instead. That's what is causing your error message: > [Thu Jan 29 00:09:32 2009] [crit] (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could > not bind to address 127.0.0.1 port 80 If they do have to communicate with each other, but you need the jails to be on different IP addresses, there are several ways to solve the problem, but they all smell a bit like a dirty hack. One way (probably the easiest one) is to forward packets between the jails using IPFW "fwd" rules (or IPF ipnat "rdr" rules, or PF translation rules). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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Systems Administrator www.stardothosting.com/linux-vps-hosting From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 03:38:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07328106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8468FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so961021fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:38:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.17.13 with SMTP id u13mr1073746bki.152.1233198591991; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:09:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:09:51 -0800 Message-ID: From: Brent Jones To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NFS writes calling FSYNC and ASYNC not consistent X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:38:05 -0000 Hello FreeBSD users, I am running into some performance problems with NFSv3/v4 mounts. I have a Sun X4540 running OpenSolaris 2008.11 with ZFS exporting NFS shares The NFS clients are a FreeBSD 6.3 32 bit, quad core xeon with 4GB ram and a FreeBSD 7.1 32bit with same hardware. The issue I am seeing, is that for certain file types, the FreeBSD NFS client will either issue an ASYNC write, or an FSYNC. However, NFSv3 and v4 both support "safe" ASYNC writes in the TCP versions of the protocol, so that should be the default. Issuing FSYNC's for every compete block transmitted adds substantial overhead and slows everything down. The two test files I have that can reproduce this data are a file created by 'dump' which is just binary data: $ file testbinery testbinery: data ASCII text file from a Maildir format: $ file ascittest ascittest: ASCII mail text My NFS mount command lines I have tried to get all data to ASYNC write: $ mount_nfs -3T -o async 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ $ mount_nfs -3T 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ $ mount_nfs -4TL 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ Here is an excerpt from a snoop from the binary data file: $ snoop rpc nfs obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 testbinery pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 OK FH=57D3 obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C SETATTR3 FH=57D3 pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R SETATTR3 OK obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 0 for 32768 (ASYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 582647808 for 32768 (ASYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 592871424 for 32768 (ASYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 605421568 for 32768 (ASYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) And on and on.. it will acheive near full wire-speed, about 110MB/sec during the copy Here is the same snoop, only copying the ASCII mail file: $ snoop rpc nfs obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C CREATE3 FH=BB85 (UNCHECKED) ascittest pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R CREATE3 OK FH=69D3 obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 0 for 32768 (FSYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 32768 for 32768 (FSYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 65536 for 32768 (FSYNC) pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) And so on. I've reproduced this with several files, and the only difference between tests is the file type. Is the FreeBSD NFS client requesting FSYNC or ASYNC depending on the file type/contents? If so, is there a tuneable setting to make all write ASYNC? Otherwise, FSYNC'ing for every block written over NFS will cause so many IOPS on the NFS server, that performance will degrade severely. Testing with an OpenSolaris 2008.11 client will issue ASYNC writes for any file type, if mounted with NFSv3 of NFSv4 (TCP). Any ideas? Thanks in advance! -- Brent Jones brent@servuhome.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 03:39:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ED51065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: from mail.utahbroadband.com (mail.utahbroadband.com [204.14.20.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E75A8FC1E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: (qmail 1967 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jan 2009 03:27:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (danallen46@airwired.net@66.29.174.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 29 Jan 2009 03:27:58 -0000 Message-Id: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> From: Dan Allen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:39:13 -0000 > While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about: > > a. The bogus keyboard scans. Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no keyboard & no mouse! Bummer. I found that if I simply added to /etc/rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" that things now work for me. Previously I never have had hald in my rc.conf. Hope this helps. Dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 03:40:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523B6106572C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from panacea.ucs.uwa.edu.au (panacea.ucs.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAD38FC23 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from kas30pipe.localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by panacea.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5466587DE5 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:52 +0900 (WST) Received: from panacea (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by panacea.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id 6688B87DF1 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:47 +0900 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by panacea.extinput (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8E987BE9 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:47 +0900 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id C6DB3367D4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 +0900 (WST) Received: from martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.23]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A823A367D3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 +0900 (WST) Received: by martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 11251) id 6FA7B6C0A4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 +0900 (WST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFF76C09A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 +0900 (WST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 +0900 (WST) From: David Adam To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (DEB 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 7016 [Jan 29 2009] X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release Subject: 7.1 new install halts on BTX error X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:40:46 -0000 I upgraded my 7.0 system to 7.1-RELEASE with freebsd-update only to find that it no longer boots correctly, instead crashing with a BTX backtrace. If I break to the loader prompt and use 'ls /boot', I also get a backtrace. A new install of 7.1 on this hardware using a separate SCSI card and drive array also leads to a BTX backtrace. I have copied this below as the first (most repeatable) error and also included the other problems. A fresh install of 7.0 works fine. FreeSBIE 1.0, based on FreeBSD 5.3, also boots fine and will happily list the contents of the original drive's /boot in the loader, although refuses to load the kernel. The FreeBSD 7.1 install CD also boots and allows me to install over FTP. I have run into BTX problems on this machine before under -CURRENT (see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2008-October/089460.html ). Dmesg from 7.0 in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?prp=125769-1-txt&n=/patch.txt A new install of 7.1-RELEASE on separate disks leads to this backtrace: int=0000000d err=00001840 efl=00010207 eip=00000511 eax=04551364 ebx=00000000 ecx=00495cae edx=00495cae esi=00000009 edi=00000001 ebp=00000000 esp=00495cae cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip=17 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b9 ae 5c 49 00 00 00 00 b9-ae 5c 49 00 00 00 00 c8 ss:esp=43 18 3c 01 74 08 3c 04-0f 85 e4 00 00 00 0f b6 43 19 88 86 94 00 00 00-c7 46 30 00 00 00 00 3c BTX error on boot with the 7.0 partition that has been upgraded to 7.1: int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00010a92 eip=00000430 eax=ffffff4c ebx=00006c94 ecx=00000001 edx=00000080 esi=00000001 edi=ffff9416 ebp=00000000 esp=0008f8b4 cs=002b ds=0033 es=002b fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip=6c 7f 94 48 00 00 00 00-0f af c1 47 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ss:eip=2b 00 00 00 33 00 00 00-00 0c 04 00 5f ad 08 04 00 00 00 00 0f 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 24 1c 06 00 BTX halted If I break to the loader prompt and try 'ls /boot', I get this backtrace: int=00000006 err=00000000 efl=00010203 eip=00040c08 eax=000000c6 ebx=00000008 ecx=eb000000 edx=000000c6 esi=00000004 edi=000000c2 ebp=00000000 esp=0008f8b4 cs=002b ds=0033 es=002b fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip=8f 49 40 00 94 49 00 cb-00 00 04 00 00 00 fc 07 80 00 00 00 04 00 00 00-94 49 00 00 00 00 00 00 ss:eip=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BTX halted Any thoughts or suggestions? I will stay on 7.0 for now but have a fairly large supply of spare drives so I can test new installs if required. Thanks, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 04:11:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98FB1065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: from mail.utahbroadband.com (mail.utahbroadband.com [204.14.20.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9258FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: (qmail 14623 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jan 2009 04:00:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (danallen46@airwired.net@66.29.174.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 29 Jan 2009 04:00:01 -0000 Message-Id: <0F75C9C4-6BB3-4A48-9A4B-EA8FAFE272BD@airwired.net> From: Dan Allen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:11:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:11:16 -0000 Although the hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf worked, I noticed that a lot of other demons get running. I needed to add dbus_enable as well. That fix is too intrusive in my book. In any event Firefox is now broken and does not run at all. I backed out the /etc/rc.conf changes and generated an xorg.conf by calling Xorg -configure. I moved this to /etc/xorg.conf. Things were still broken until I added the recommended Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in the ServerLayout section of xorg.conf. Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has worked fine until this new Xorg. This 7.4 version of X.org is not ready for STABLE! Dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 04:16:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A16106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEA78FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.65] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0T4FaQC058490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:15:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Dan Allen In-Reply-To: <0F75C9C4-6BB3-4A48-9A4B-EA8FAFE272BD@airwired.net> References: <0F75C9C4-6BB3-4A48-9A4B-EA8FAFE272BD@airwired.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AqQtxCrwCguW6wNYuN+s" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1233202572.1779.14.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:16:36 -0000 --=-AqQtxCrwCguW6wNYuN+s Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:11 -0700, Dan Allen wrote: > Although the hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf worked, I noticed that a lot =20 > of other demons get running. I needed to add dbus_enable as well. =20 > That fix is too intrusive in my book. >=20 > In any event Firefox is now broken and does not run at all. >=20 > I backed out the /etc/rc.conf changes and generated an xorg.conf by =20 > calling Xorg -configure. I moved this to /etc/xorg.conf. Things were =20 > still broken until I added the recommended >=20 > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >=20 > in the ServerLayout section of xorg.conf. >=20 > Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has =20 > worked fine until this new Xorg. Firefox not working is one of the symptoms of a botched upgrade. If you ldd firefox-bin you will likely find that it is linked to both libxcb.so.1 and libxcb.so.2. This is not good, ensure that everything that depends on libxcb has been rebuilt. robert. > This 7.4 version of X.org is not ready for STABLE! >=20 > Dan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-AqQtxCrwCguW6wNYuN+s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmBLYsACgkQM4TrQ4qfROM0tACfWbMGiEW8QkfABsJXYa3kdS5D xeMAn1Lv7dpWtxlI1FTTR7t5XmVgxRQW =aPSK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AqQtxCrwCguW6wNYuN+s-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 04:59:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E389106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB998FC1F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Gu31b00m0SCNGk5AGzlUY; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:59:45 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Gzk1b0040FJTGg3VGzl3G; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:59:45 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSP0B-0003Ds-H8; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:59:43 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: Dan Allen In-reply-to: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> (message from Dan Allen on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:59:43 -0500 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:59:45 -0000 ,--- You/Dan (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700) ----* | > While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about: | > | > a. The bogus keyboard scans. You are quoting me and I need to clarify... | Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf | The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no keyboard & no mouse! Bummer. | I found that if I simply added to /etc/rc.conf: | hald_enable="YES" | that things now work for me. | Previously I never have had hald in my rc.conf. | Hope this helps. `--------------------------------------------------* My worst case is not HAL-related: I had the same behavior with or without HAL, and the behaviour was, e.g.: * I press the keys "TAB q w" over an `xev' window and see the bogus key scan codes -- nothing related to the pressed keys. * In a moment the xev-monitoring xterm window shows a non-stopping flow of events, even though I am not touching anything on the computer. * With some combination of a few key presses over the `xterm' window, suddenly a long stream of `2's appears. Or `z'. Or something else, unrelated to the keys I had pressed. There has been nothing of this sort on my desktop, where I am typing this message -- so, I think I know how to configure X :-). On this desktop I am currently running this new X (installed it on Sunday) -- first I ran it with HAL, then today I switched to the HAL-less mode. I did complain about the garbage in my windows -- and it got me, there was so much of it: I switched to the HAL-less mode a few hours ago and so far it seems I have less of it. Another thing that I am certain about, is that in the HAL mode (I am not yet sure about the behavior in my current HAL-less mode), there is a dramatically higher mouse pointer captivity by some applications (e.g. `opera') -- it sometimes takes (took?) about 10 seconds after shifting a pointer into an xterm or Emacs to be able to produce any keyboard input. I did notice these things with the old X, but on a scale dramatically smaller. ,--- You/Dan (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:11:13 -0700) ----* | This 7.4 version of X.org is not ready for STABLE! `--------------------------------------------------* I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 05:12:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171A11065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63D98FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 93Ax1b05J0mv7h057HCKNG; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:12:19 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9HCJ1b0080FJTGg3XHCKLs; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:12:19 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSPCL-0005KQ-FP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:12:17 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: Robert Noland In-reply-to: <1233202572.1779.14.camel@wombat.2hip.net> (message from Robert Noland on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500) References: <0F75C9C4-6BB3-4A48-9A4B-EA8FAFE272BD@airwired.net> <1233202572.1779.14.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:12:17 -0500 Cc: danallen46@airwired.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:12:19 -0000 ,--- You/Robert (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500) ----* | > Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has =20 | > worked fine until this new Xorg. | | Firefox not working is one of the symptoms of a botched upgrade. If you | ldd firefox-bin you will likely find that it is linked to both | libxcb.so.1 and libxcb.so.2. This is not good, ensure that everything | that depends on libxcb has been rebuilt. FWIW, firefox3 works for me (just installed it on my desktop). -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:37:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70D10656BF for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: from mailgate.gta.com (mailgate.gta.com [199.120.225.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1352E8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: (qmail 7317 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jan 2009 06:10:29 -0000 Date: 29 Jan 2009 06:10:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20090129061029.7316.qmail@mailgate.gta.com> From: Larry Baird To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Organization: Global Technology Associates In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.3-PRERELEASE (i386)) Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:37:12 -0000 In article you wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500) ----* > | > Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has =20 > | > worked fine until this new Xorg. > | > | Firefox not working is one of the symptoms of a botched upgrade. If you > | ldd firefox-bin you will likely find that it is linked to both > | libxcb.so.1 and libxcb.so.2. This is not good, ensure that everything > | that depends on libxcb has been rebuilt. > > FWIW, firefox3 works for me (just installed it on my desktop). I also have firefox3 working. Initially got bitten by not having "hald_enable" and "dbus_enable" in my /etc/rc.conf. Adding these made my mouse work. Got Nvidia's latest driver (180.25) to fix the dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol +"miZeroLineScreenIndex" problem. Thank you to Nvidia for the fast work. (-: Initially thought this upgrade was a mistake, until I found out about "hald_enable" and "dbus_enable". Upgrade would have be a lot easier if they were mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I would have found these knobs more quickly if mentioned in HALD(8). or if they had default values in /etc/rc/defaults/rc.conf. Did get a laugh out of HALD(8) telling me how to start and stop hald under Fedora. Found them by looking at the startup scripts in /usr/local/rc.d. My 7.4 xorg install now seems to be rock solid. (-; Larry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Baird | http://www.gta.com Global Technology Associates, Inc. | Orlando, FL Email: lab@gta.com | TEL 407-380-0220, FAX 407-380-6080 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 08:01:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C6F106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E5B8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 97A668C084; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:37:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:37:31 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090129073731.GB8695@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: reminder: bugathon upcoming this weekend X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:01:57 -0000 Starting this Friday, we are going to hold a bugathon to work through some of the network-related PRs. More details, and a list of resources, are available at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Bugathons/January2009. I have come up with a page that details a subset of those PRs as a set of suggested PRs: http://people.freebsd.org/~linimon/annotated_prs_bugathon.html Please join us to work through some PRs. Thanks! mcl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 08:43:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD971065673; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEF58FC12; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so761424fxm.19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:43:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.199.16 with SMTP id b16mr583902bkq.142.1233218586010; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:43:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:43:05 -0800 Message-ID: From: Brent Jones To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, pathiaki2@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:43:08 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Brent Jones wrote: > I'm reviving this, as I too am seeing something eerily similar. I have > made my own thread under freebsd-stable, so I will hopefully move that > discussion to this list. > > I believe we are seeing performance problems when the FreeBSD NFS > client issues FSYNC NFS instead of ASYNC, sending performance to a > mere percentage of what disks and network links are capable of. > Further testing tonight demonstrates that other NFSv3 and v4 clients > do not issue FSYNC unless they modify attributed and close a file, or > append and close a file. > FreeBSD NFS client will issue FSYNCs anytime the write size (-w) is > reached, instead of when just closing the file. > This is not necessary, since NFSv3 and v4 TCP have provisions for safe > async writes that 'guarantee' state of NFS writes. > > Here is the contents of what I wrote there verbatim: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-January/048063.html > > ------- > > > Hello FreeBSD users, > I am running into some performance problems with NFSv3/v4 mounts. > I have a Sun X4540 running OpenSolaris 2008.11 with ZFS exporting NFS shares > The NFS clients are a FreeBSD 6.3 32 bit, quad core xeon with 4GB ram > and a FreeBSD 7.1 32bit with same hardware. > > The issue I am seeing, is that for certain file types, the FreeBSD NFS > client will either issue an ASYNC write, or an FSYNC. > However, NFSv3 and v4 both support "safe" ASYNC writes in the TCP > versions of the protocol, so that should be the default. > Issuing FSYNC's for every compete block transmitted adds substantial > overhead and slows everything down. > > The two test files I have that can reproduce this data are a file > created by 'dump' which is just binary data: > > $ file testbinery > testbinery: data > > ASCII text file from a Maildir format: > > $ file ascittest > ascittest: ASCII mail text > > My NFS mount command lines I have tried to get all data to ASYNC write: > > $ mount_nfs -3T -o async 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > $ mount_nfs -3T 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > $ mount_nfs -4TL 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > > Here is an excerpt from a snoop from the binary data file: > > $ snoop rpc nfs > > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 > (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 testbinery > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 OK FH=57D3 > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 > (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C SETATTR3 FH=57D3 > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R SETATTR3 OK > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 0 for 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 582647808 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 592871424 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 605421568 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > > > And on and on.. it will acheive near full wire-speed, about 110MB/sec > during the copy > > > Here is the same snoop, only copying the ASCII mail file: > > $ snoop rpc nfs > > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C CREATE3 FH=BB85 (UNCHECKED) ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R CREATE3 OK FH=69D3 > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 0 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 32768 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 65536 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > > > And so on. I've reproduced this with several files, and the only > difference between tests is the file type. > Is the FreeBSD NFS client requesting FSYNC or ASYNC depending on the > file type/contents? > If so, is there a tuneable setting to make all write ASYNC? > Otherwise, FSYNC'ing for every block written over NFS will cause so > many IOPS on the NFS server, that performance will degrade severely. > > Testing with an OpenSolaris 2008.11 client will issue ASYNC writes for > any file type, if mounted with NFSv3 of NFSv4 (TCP). > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > -- > Brent Jones > brent@servuhome.net > I have found a 4 year old bug, which may be related to this. cp uses mmap for small files (and I imagine lots of things use mmap for file operations) and causes slowdowns via NFS, due to the fsync data provided above. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/87792 That bugid accurately describes the issue, is there any way to attach more 'interested parties' or additional details to that bug? -- Brent Jones brent@servuhome.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 08:56:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF54106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEA38FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 017C546B42; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:56:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:56:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Dmitry Morozovsky In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: jail: external and localhost distinction X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:56:14 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > am I right concluding that under FreeBSD jail there is no way to attach two > processes to the same port of external interface address and localhost? > > I tried to move rather standard two-tier nginx(ip:80)+apache(127.1:80) > scheme into a jail and on apache start got > > [Thu Jan 29 00:09:32 2009] [crit] (48)Address already in use: make_sock: > could not bind to address 127.0.0.1 port 80 > > (this is under RELENG_7 if it's relevant) > > Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. The way Jail is implemented is that the jail IP is silently substituted for the loopback IP is used. This has some downsides, and this is one of them. The virtual network stack (VIMAGE) project for FreeBSD 8.0 is intended to address this, among many other things, by providing full virtualization of all network stack data structures for jails. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 09:19:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC5C106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232F8FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 98163 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jan 2009 08:53:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (spork@96.57.144.66) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 08:53:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:53:14 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:19:57 -0000 Hello, I think this needs a few more eyes: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2009-January/003782.html In short, writes are slow, likely do to the write-cache being enabled on the controller. The sysctl used in 6.x to turn the cache off don't seem to be in 7.x. Thanks, Charles ___ Charles Sprickman NetEng/SysAdmin Bway.net - New York's Best Internet - www.bway.net spork@bway.net - 212.655.9344 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 09:39:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17394106568B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0B8FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0T9d6xJ032071; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:06 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:06 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:07 +0300 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail: external and localhost distinction X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:39:09 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Robert Watson wrote: RW> > am I right concluding that under FreeBSD jail there is no way to attach RW> > two processes to the same port of external interface address and RW> > localhost? RW> > RW> > I tried to move rather standard two-tier nginx(ip:80)+apache(127.1:80) RW> > scheme into a jail and on apache start got RW> > RW> > [Thu Jan 29 00:09:32 2009] [crit] (48)Address already in use: make_sock: RW> > could not bind to address 127.0.0.1 port 80 RW> > RW> > (this is under RELENG_7 if it's relevant) RW> > RW> > Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. RW> RW> The way Jail is implemented is that the jail IP is silently substituted for RW> the loopback IP is used. This has some downsides, and this is one of them. RW> The virtual network stack (VIMAGE) project for FreeBSD 8.0 is intended to RW> address this, among many other things, by providing full virtualization of RW> all network stack data structures for jails. Thank you for clarification, now I see this is actually expected behaviour :) Would then starting second jail with the same root and, say, 127.10.0.1 as an address be a workaround? -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 10:28:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2001065686 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4B8FC25 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0T9oYkm082556 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0T9oYbB082555 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:34 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:34 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Subject: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:28:53 -0000 Greetings, I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the router/modem). So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that it is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me further. Maybe someones already tried it? Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. --Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 11:44:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF737106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtector@thekeelecentre.com) Received: from mx0.thekeelecentre.com (mx0.thekeelecentre.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:16f:2::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B96E8FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtector@thekeelecentre.com) Received: from localhost (filter.mx0.thekeelecentre.com [217.206.238.165]) by mx0.thekeelecentre.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509C945033; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at thekeelecentre.com Received: from mx0.thekeelecentre.com ([217.206.238.167]) by localhost (filter.mx0.thekeelecentre.com [217.206.238.165]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sB2Yr2wPniWy; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.2.11] (daffy.tector.org.uk [82.71.32.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.thekeelecentre.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCEC145025; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:43:46 +0000 From: Richard Tector User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Sprickman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020309030602020206020908" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020309030602020206020908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hello, > > I think this needs a few more eyes: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2009-January/003782.html > > In short, writes are slow, likely do to the write-cache being enabled on > the controller. The sysctl used in 6.x to turn the cache off don't seem > to be in 7.x. I have two Dell 860's here also running 7.1-REL. A simple dd on one shows roughly 60MB/s writes to a mirror of 2 320GB disks on what I'm assuming is the same LSI controller card (SAS5) richard@moses:~# cat /boot/loader.conf hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc=1 Seems to work just fine for me. 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Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC918FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED6D26289B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:06:47 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: L8Jaf6YNvIDZNO+pZrygh/KgBbxqxh6TYdTelLYKMfCf 1233230807 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAB9134C32; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:06:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Goncharov References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Allen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:07:21 -0000 Alex Goncharov wrote: > I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD > ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time. > > There are definitely issues with xorg-7.4 at the moment. The root issue seems to be that USB mice simply don't work for me, and running Xorg appears to destabilise the 7-STABLE USB stack in some way which I just don't understand. The condition isn't recoverable without a reboot. I am the only person who's reported these symptoms in any great detail yet. I spent a lot of time yesterday debugging with rnoland@ the USB problem I've been having. He sent me a patch, however, it doesn't solve the problem. My understanding is that a lot has changed in this Xorg release to do with input drivers, specifically mouse -- and that platform specific code got shuffled off out of the server itself, and into the drivers. Good from an academic software engineering point of view, but if this is the cause, not good from a regression point of view. Whilst bisecting all the conditions, and tracing it back to this upgrade is easy to do, I can't readily identify the causal relationship -- I don't know what's going on which has broken Xorg for me in this way, and haven't seen anything like this before. Since upgrading, I've seen stability problems with hald enabled. I have had to turn off hald mode on both my laptop and desktop 7-STABLE machines, as it can totally hang the machine, no DDB break, etc. Scanning SVN, nothing appears to have changed in the 7-STABLE train in terms of USB, moused, the ums driver, or anything else. A ktrace of the moused process bound to ums0 goes dead (no I/O, no syscalls) after X is started. One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. thanks BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:46:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41C01065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF208FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9PVa1b00B17dt5G57QmWuy; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:46:30 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9QmV1b0040FJTGg3ZQmVaC; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:46:30 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSWHr-0009TS-P7; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:46:27 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: "Bruce M. Simpson" In-reply-to: <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> (bms@FreeBSD.org) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:46:27 -0500 Cc: danallen46@airwired.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, alex-goncharov@comcast.net Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:46:30 -0000 ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. | | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. `----------------------------------------------------* Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have seen :-() As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that laptop). On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. | | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over | promised deadlines. | | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) | `----------------------------------------------------* Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from ports). I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with potential dangers not disclosed. In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way before the code was placed in the ports source tree: * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of problems with it on Linux. * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the upgrade. * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out something yourself. * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. * The choice is totally yours. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:15:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E9F1065696 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908498FC4F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0TDFMvN091608; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:15:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0TDFMbq091607; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:15:22 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:15:22 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Lawrence Farr Subject: RE: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:33 -0000 Hello, and thank you for your reply. While it's not /exactly/ what I was looking for - it's close. :) The "filtering" capability is my biggest gripe on the Cisco *DSL products. They're just not as /capable/ as is offered in FBSD. DNS is another plus (pfDNS). But I don't think I'd be modify pfDNS to accomodate BIND, or unbound. Although tinydns might be able to fit the bill. Oh well, it's close - thanks for the pointer. :) --Chris Quoting Lawrence Farr : > Have a look at pfsense, don't think it's what you want tho. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris H >> Sent: 29 January 2009 09:51 >> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> Subject: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? >> >> Greetings, >> I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out >> a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over >> a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the >> router/modem). >> So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a >> box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it >> be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike >> one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched >> the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing >> that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that it >> is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can >> tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me further. >> Maybe someones already tried it? >> >> Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. >> >> --Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:18:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D346F10656D1 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A95A8FC36 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so4612185fka.11 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:18:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F/RHyzm1BIAY678s7WcE2KPqylLxtgH+qz7KTpg1VS0=; b=qZnP+jnu8kI7owhDyuj6k4M4Wnt6MNo8j6DuGvMY7SmH34awy+WUVEHIxtuOp8/hyz btGEVVYgHmRfxayahAvRC+a4Tf6QxrjsQ9h+AMptjenpO42udJIgoWydzetiv/cvLTKa /3LEPVPgajTF7Dm0CSPhXvnt5IkofkGpTQ6sQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GzUFC/e3EhgyTl5gsuj3aAwtM3/1zuphnZSRQEG9d/7FqU7V/SSPXvSX4ODzn+PTgm 5BW4e8LBMyRclqUtndG2IqstoZLuAUBxbASPKdOQDUBDiKCUZP7Zf/So1gnvmXZbM7/M /OEks20yOXqhF4CG9qI9uehlfFZCVjogEVtJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: michael.grant@gmail.com Received: by 10.180.241.8 with SMTP id o8mr14233bkh.102.1233233681696; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:54:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:54:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: db154dae2bb0aa0d Message-ID: <62b856460901290454i3ebddbfdhb6173bb2ba6d68f6@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Grant To: Chris H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:18:11 -0000 Check out OpenWRT, this is essentially linux (busybox on a linux kernel I believe) that you can load on a router and it runs on more than a handfull of routers. It's not freebsd. Not sure if the Cisco 837 is supported though, but many other routers are. If not supported, just go out and buy a cheap router that is supported and replace your cisco. Michael Grant On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Chris H wrote: > Greetings, > I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out > a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over > a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the router/modem). > So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a > box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it > be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike > one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched > the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing > that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that it > is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can > tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me further. > Maybe someones already tried it? > > Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. > > --Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:40:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93765106564A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FD28FC0C; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.65] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TDdakK061435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:39:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Alex Goncharov In-Reply-To: References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Tb2OA3/s2Jwq2e1dYLTG" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, "Bruce M. Simpson" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:40:29 -0000 --=-Tb2OA3/s2Jwq2e1dYLTG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 07:46 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed= =20 > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't=20 > | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that p= ath. > |=20 > | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging=20 > | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. > `----------------------------------------------------* >=20 > Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my > Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the > built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I > did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a > lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have > seen :-() >=20 > As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a > one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that > laptop). >=20 > On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but > refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: >=20 > ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* > | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less > | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. > |=20 > | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over=20 > | promised deadlines. > |=20 > | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) > | > `----------------------------------------------------* >=20 > Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM > crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but > I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building > and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I > could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from > ports). >=20 > I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as > experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in > the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems > to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with > potential dangers not disclosed. >=20 > In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way > before the code was placed in the ports source tree: >=20 > * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of > problems with it on Linux. >=20 > * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the > upgrade. >=20 > * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have > hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. >=20 > * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out > something yourself. >=20 > * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing > ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your > packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get > pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the amount of change was large. This update also brings in support for a lot of people who are running newer hardware. I realize that there are some issues with the mouse driver... I'm trying to look at and resolve, but I don't really know input drivers, so I doing a lot of guess work. On top of that I do have a day job, so time is limited. At this point, I seem to be pretty much responsible for at least intel agp, if not most all of agp, drm, and sharing a lot of the workload for the Mesa ports and Xorg. So, if anyone knows about input devices, feel free to jump in and help me out. robert. > * The choice is totally yours. >=20 > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-Tb2OA3/s2Jwq2e1dYLTG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmBsbsACgkQM4TrQ4qfROMiqgCeNH/07E5CRUmGmzuymrgPJZIu NHoAnA29VN3InHP0xBlfMCF+r6XIW2qR =vNzV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Tb2OA3/s2Jwq2e1dYLTG-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:47:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B9A1065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8756A8FC29 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0TDl5xe091866; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:47:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0TDl44e091865; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:47:04 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129054704.zhimydjekg8gk4ss@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:47:04 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290454i3ebddbfdhb6173bb2ba6d68f6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <62b856460901290454i3ebddbfdhb6173bb2ba6d68f6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:47:14 -0000 Hello Michael, and thank you for your reply. Yes, OpenWRT is pretty much was what I was asking about. Being /exclusively/ FBSD I hadn't run across it - thanks. :) Of course it doesn't support any Cisco products, but hey, like you said; I can just choose one that it /does/, or write a driver myself. I was also looking at Sangoma's (http://www.sangoma.com) wanpipe (ftp://ftp.sangoma.com/FreeBSD/wanpipe/) as a possible base point. It already supports BSD and works with nearly all HW. But now - in an effort to stay on a BSD platform, I'm thinking of using a combination of nanobsd, and OpenWRT as a framework to build a FreeBSD based equivalent (or better) version of OpenWRT. I think I'll fly a page now to announce the project - look for it in a ports section near you. ;) Thank you again for the reply. --Chris Quoting Michael Grant : > Check out OpenWRT, this is essentially linux (busybox on a linux > kernel I believe) that you can load on a router and it runs on more > than a handfull of routers. It's not freebsd. Not sure if the Cisco > 837 is supported though, but many other routers are. If not > supported, just go out and buy a cheap router that is supported and > replace your cisco. > > Michael Grant > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Chris H wrote: >> Greetings, >> I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out >> a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over >> a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the router/modem). >> So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a >> box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it >> be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike >> one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched >> the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing >> that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that it >> is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can >> tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me further. >> Maybe someones already tried it? >> >> Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. >> >> --Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:58:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC830106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647838FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9P8U1b0060mv7h057Rykdk; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:44 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Ryk1b00E0FJTGg3XRyks4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:44 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSXPn-000ABB-4L; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:43 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: Robert Noland In-reply-to: <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> (message from Robert Noland on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:43 -0500 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, bms@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, alex-goncharov@comcast.net Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:45 -0000 ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) ----* | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to | freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues | reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the | amount of change was large. This update also brings in support for a | lot of people who are running newer hardware. | | I realize that there are some issues with the mouse driver... I'm | trying to look at and resolve, but I don't really know input drivers, so | I doing a lot of guess work. On top of that I do have a day job, so | time is limited. Understood. Would you have spent more time if the new X was introduced as two (?) new ports: xorg-server-devel and libxcb-devel. Is X less complicated, less dangerous, less "user-binding" than firefox or emacs? -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:02:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3085106572D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B708FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0TE2hZF092032; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0TE2hDE092031; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:43 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:43 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:52 -0000 Hello, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Michael Grant : > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Chris H wrote: >> Hello, and thank you for your reply. >> >> While it's not /exactly/ what I was looking for - it's close. :) >> The "filtering" capability is my biggest gripe on the Cisco >> *DSL products. They're just not as /capable/ as is offered in >> FBSD. DNS is another plus (pfDNS). But I don't think I'd be >> modify pfDNS to accomodate BIND, or unbound. Although tinydns >> might be able to fit the bill. Oh well, it's close - thanks >> for the pointer. :) > > You can run iptables on openwrt. Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of pf(4). I think it's more efficient - especially combined with all the network tuning that has been done recently by Robert Watson, John Baldwin, Mohan Srinivasan, Peter Wemm, and others. Another reason I'm so inclined to be FBSD centric on this. :) > You can compile most anything for > it, you're only limited by it's memory and cpu. I'm not familiar with > pfDNS. But if it runs on freebsd, it probably can be made to run on > openwrt as well. Indeed, it's running a FreeBSD base. But like you said; CPU, and Memory are the only boundries here. Will need to do more research to compare limits against a /desired/ install base. Thanks again for the reply. --Chris > > Michael > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:13:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B69106566C; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECA88FC08; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.65] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TECBeC061672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Alex Goncharov In-Reply-To: References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-n41b11fxlw51ca2HoJWs" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1233238367.1779.47.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, bms@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:13:06 -0000 --=-n41b11fxlw51ca2HoJWs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:58 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) ----* > | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted t= o > | freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > | reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the > | amount of change was large. This update also brings in support for a > | lot of people who are running newer hardware. > |=20 > | I realize that there are some issues with the mouse driver... I'm > | trying to look at and resolve, but I don't really know input drivers, s= o > | I doing a lot of guess work. On top of that I do have a day job, so > | time is limited. =20 >=20 > Understood. >=20 > Would you have spent more time if the new X was introduced as two (?) > new ports: xorg-server-devel and libxcb-devel. Is X less complicated, > less dangerous, less "user-binding" than firefox or emacs? Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is about 60 or 70 ports now. FWIW, I have Xserver 1.6 and xrandr bits that are rc already... as well as a new intel driver that I don't want to update without xserver 1.6. robert. > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- --=-n41b11fxlw51ca2HoJWs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmBuV8ACgkQM4TrQ4qfROMBxwCeN4aLknkMgLFIy7hSPI4UamD5 vB4An2jOmBW69mCIxCGBtX9arQHwyLX/ =binv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-n41b11fxlw51ca2HoJWs-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:20:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0201065672; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclark46@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3868FC1F; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclark46@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=d1KX9u3KBSJbiMrdhMsY+NJYG+tk2grhm97742U8iBcUpQH60YANbRP5rCzDrNv5; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [208.118.36.246] (helo=joker.seclark.com) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSWkW-0003oU-Ky; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4981AC13.2040300@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:16:03 -0500 From: Stephen Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Goncharov References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec790b6138ff94354d05a45997a2c494d9cd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.118.36.246 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, "Bruce M. Simpson" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:20:08 -0000 Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. > | > | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging > | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. > `----------------------------------------------------* > > Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my > Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the > built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I > did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a > lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have > seen :-() > > As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a > one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that > laptop). > > On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but > refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: > > ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* > | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less > | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. > | > | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over > | promised deadlines. > | > | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) > | > `----------------------------------------------------* > > Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM > crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but > I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building > and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I > could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from > ports). > > I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as > experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in > the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems > to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with > potential dangers not disclosed. > > In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way > before the code was placed in the ports source tree: > > * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of > problems with it on Linux. > > * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the > upgrade. > > * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have > hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. > > * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out > something yourself. > > * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing > ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your > packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get > pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. > > * The choice is totally yours. > > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > On my system the matrox driver quit working, when I tried using the built in via the via driver wouldn't compile so when I tried X -configure it generated a config using vesa, but when I tried to start X with the xorg.conf.new with the vesa driver X said it couldn't find any screens. I finally had to revert back to an older version. This should not happen on a stable system. -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:25:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8D1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD88FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Nwp1b0050ldTLk55SRWxD; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:25:30 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9SRV1b0100FJTGg3QSRWbA; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:25:30 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSXpg-000ARc-C2; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:25:28 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: Robert Noland In-reply-to: <1233238367.1779.47.camel@wombat.2hip.net> (message from Robert Noland on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233238367.1779.47.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:25:28 -0500 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, bms@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, alex-goncharov@comcast.net Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:25:30 -0000 ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) ----* | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to | update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is | about 60 or 70 ports now. That can be handled, it seems to me. My current port upgrade problem is that I cannot csup the tree and get the old X to rebuild dependent components. | FWIW, I have Xserver 1.6 and xrandr bits that are rc already... as well | as a new intel driver that I don't want to update without xserver 1.6. I would be willing to test 1.6 on my many different machines, provided there is a clear and inexpensive (< 2 hours) path to a rollback. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:34:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF990106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033A28FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1281419fga.35 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:34:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bRk7RBF69sTN2AS6fnkKOQ400DDz23raYzM6wn0/hvE=; b=VcdFYATWlisXoHA6brYkaai6h44uK2WmzR5FZXrgAQdQsn9trKaXcmDozihkwQwQ+G Nw+k8bRzd5PcRO+tdhjkAXDYVsE1M++WB0gmoGSnR1jZtA54LuKIZfZxUGJ4druthO7O nGNEeGmDar26P84DKU+B3oBCFsOxXWHpSFZs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TWygz6iHyRmnEkZGeXNdWshnZnXkDErQW4jgE8Y8OfqpEeIdkgIVUNIFCHjnfTayhC 7tWc5CcGciAbOgS6rxlwtSgtDtuGpjBD8bZxv910XAxSdhzJrKGgZEvdc/B+HHUQH0o/ rEWBi6a28uzMYy/iguydFD3PTxJRqY/cVN8K4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr124127faq.76.1233239693932; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:34:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:34:53 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:34:55 -0000 Hi All, I have run into a problem that seem rather puzzling. I have upgraded an installation of FreeBSD from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.0-STABLE and 7.1-STABLE, but i fail to boot with either one of the STABLE upgrades. I end up at this point: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input When i type ?, i get nothing. When i try to load all possible drives, from ad0s1a to ad9s1a, i get nothing. When i boot kernel.old, i see this: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff at device 31.2 on pci0 ... ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 It seems that FreeBSD recognises this drive as a SATA300 but later on refers to it as SATA150. Could this be the problem. This is what i have about this disk when i boot the RELEASE version of FreeBSD: #pciconf -lv atapci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018a card=0x73361462 chip=0x27c08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA #atacontrol cap ad0 Protocol Serial ATA II device model WDC WD1600AAJS-60PSA0 serial number WD-WMAP96717073 firmware revision 21.12M21 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 312581808 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 0/0x00 # atacontrol mode ad0 current mode = SATA150 When i boot in verbose mode, i get this: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x10 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xfa00 pci0: child atapci0 requested type 4 for rid 0x24, but the BAR says it is an memio ata0: on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0x1f0 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x14 type 4 at 0x3f6 ata0: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 ata0: stat0=0x50 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=50 stat1=00 devices=0x1 ioapic0: routing intpin 14 (ISA IRQ 14) to vector 54 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x18 type 4 at 0x170 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x1c type 4 at 0x376 ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc ioapic0: routing intpin 15 (ISA IRQ 15) to vector 55 ata1: [MPSAFE] ata1: [ITHREAD] ... ... ata0-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 ad0: 312581808 sectors [310101C/16H/63S] 16 sectors/interrupt 1 depth queue GEOM: new disk ad0 ad0: Intel check1 failed ad0: Adaptec check1 failed ad0: LSI (v3) check1 failed ad0: LSI (v2) check1 failed ad0: FreeBSD check1 failed ata1: reiniting channel .. ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc ata1: reinit done .. ata1: reiniting channel .. ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc ata1: reinit done .. ata1-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire Any one with any ideas? -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:44:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F937106566B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121B08FC12; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.65] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TEh7gB061860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: sclark46@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <4981AC13.2040300@earthlink.net> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <4981AC13.2040300@earthlink.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dv9MjWZZzmssQTlS9Lzc" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:42 -0500 Message-Id: <1233240223.1779.49.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: "Bruce M. Simpson" , danallen46@airwired.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Alex Goncharov Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:01 -0000 --=-dv9MjWZZzmssQTlS9Lzc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:16 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Alex Goncharov wrote: > > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* > > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are pass= ed=20 > > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't=20 > > | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that= path. > > |=20 > > | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging=20 > > | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. > > `----------------------------------------------------* > >=20 > > Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my > > Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the > > built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I > > did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a > > lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have > > seen :-() > >=20 > > As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a > > one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that > > laptop). > >=20 > > On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but > > refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: > >=20 > > ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* > > | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less > > | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. > > |=20 > > | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over= =20 > > | promised deadlines. > > |=20 > > | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) > > | > > `----------------------------------------------------* > >=20 > > Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM > > crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but > > I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building > > and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I > > could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from > > ports). > >=20 > > I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as > > experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in > > the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems > > to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with > > potential dangers not disclosed. > >=20 > > In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way > > before the code was placed in the ports source tree: > >=20 > > * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of > > problems with it on Linux. > >=20 > > * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the > > upgrade. > >=20 > > * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have > > hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. > >=20 > > * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out > > something yourself. > >=20 > > * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing > > ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your > > packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get > > pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. > >=20 > > * The choice is totally yours. > >=20 > > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > >=20 > On my system the matrox driver quit working, when I tried using the built= in via > the via driver wouldn't compile so when I tried X -configure it generated > a config using vesa, but when I tried to start X with the xorg.conf.new w= ith > the vesa driver X said it couldn't find any screens. I finally had to rev= ert=20 > back to an older version. This should not happen on a stable system. for Via hardware, you should be using openchrome. robert. > --=20 >=20 > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) >=20 > "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty > decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-dv9MjWZZzmssQTlS9Lzc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmBwJ4ACgkQM4TrQ4qfRONNmACfSo8eCUT4Tdxb7GMwwcFTyACH iVwAoInbc83w/ApcypZAHjJ/J1D/G0JN =D/yb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dv9MjWZZzmssQTlS9Lzc-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:54:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA38106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from keltia.freenix.fr (keltia.freenix.org [IPv6:2001:660:330f:f820:213:72ff:fe15:f44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFBA8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS) with ESMTP id C9ED43BC0B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keltia.freenix.fr Received: from keltia.freenix.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keltia.freenix.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8u2gxwsAZ8SA for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS, from userid 101) id 402653BC0A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:46 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129145446.GA44934@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: MacOS X / Macbook Pro - FreeBSD 7 / Dell D820 SMP User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:54:49 -0000 According to Mike Barnard: > Any one with any ideas? Do you have GEOM_BSD in your kernel configuration file? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Dons / donation Ondine : http://ondine.keltia.net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:09:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A101065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0698FC1E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7657408rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1AQbSlyg1El16pdzfSfeWkib7D6SUv/u+2FxjAkAHRI=; b=j/9n/aPgXpBo0CFaIkXTizXmNQwJOZDqoHTi6hZjcQ5+X77z2rGkmMc1YDIXIptW9/ OgwyyEMY+e2W0IiD+CkGk+ZP/AHiD1VgcySOM4KXQGeyPOD3hC0ggZRkUbW5Fq6lyFCH M4lozzy4phq+B2ljnHzW1y268KE/F/nKc6edg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wgMvbJPm4XYDnbygSoX873/D60ZXq4mdG9XKizflLaRwW6Y1jEt7o+dIFpw7M3P9h0 htGTClAlVY1VrOqqwsyEmuoZqvdFa9MKHpspUmjuWphNt7pqLHG7p2WGLz042eK41JUl kWOOSbDwCSfjthwCkGAIGbtV74c7I/TeSjcKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr73599rvl.215.1233241777118; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129145446.GA44934@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129145446.GA44934@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:09:37 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901290709h3dbb9a73t8f0f597fe05b3bb1@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: Ollivier Robert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:38 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Mike Barnard: > > Any one with any ideas? > > Do you have GEOM_BSD in your kernel configuration file? no, i have this: options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:09:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211DD1065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petros.fraser@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7548FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petros.fraser@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so8002503wfg.7 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=48WyJxK/WSyNjp3EglvZO/V7zl0gcbq8mLgZNSLyRKE=; b=yA4nt3BkLIFmbFx1Ha3ZovfmoKj3+D3gX8nVIex832vzd3e6VKubPBkGajuWSgsPug zMIdRRnGWycZiIW6nlSSRamQsrgaVHYEOGYt1724fmQpeq+TF9Oxy2yfZSiFGsc6TF3T nDVHtJJFOCYMvNXRZGEGiKqLzxWl5Z9+mqseo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uKRTQfIBGagr4N9Zvf9p7J4AUV+DztMYd4ITNOpZzgmG7A77mJaPLDbqeE6JQ5kI3K pYNkqd+vxA+bhxo8Tr/2DpZFJPEfAtGjvAUy11rbrT1sAnu7jiJvxoY9w4CUobJi1Yvw 7fI1uRCqL8m8R0qYjJq0TpWUzZdAztIys7bb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr44128wfc.233.1233240142245; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:42:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Fraser To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: GSSAPI support in bind X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:54 -0000 I'm having a problem enabling gssapi support in bind 9.5 under FreeBSD 7. I now think it may be something related to freebsd. Even if I force the path in the Makefile with the entry --with-gssapi=/usr/include/gssapi.h /usr/include/gssapi/gssapi.h, I still get configure:6359: checking for GSSAPI library configure:6385: result: disabled in config.log after I run make. If this is not the proper forum for this question, please let me know. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:15:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6E410656BC for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from keltia.freenix.fr (keltia.freenix.org [IPv6:2001:660:330f:f820:213:72ff:fe15:f44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177C98FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS) with ESMTP id 477D53BC0B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:15:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keltia.freenix.fr Received: from keltia.freenix.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keltia.freenix.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sB+VCFw3WNmK; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:15:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix/TLS, from userid 101) id E945D3BC0A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:14:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:14:59 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: Mike Barnard Message-ID: <20090129151459.GA49826@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129145446.GA44934@keltia.freenix.fr> <7dc029620901290709h3dbb9a73t8f0f597fe05b3bb1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7dc029620901290709h3dbb9a73t8f0f597fe05b3bb1@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: MacOS X / Macbook Pro - FreeBSD 7 / Dell D820 SMP User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:15:04 -0000 According to Mike Barnard: > no, i have this: > options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. > options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization Try adding GEOM_PART_BSD then. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Dons / donation Ondine : http://ondine.keltia.net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:48:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405C11065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from hedwig.simons-rock.edu (hedwig.simons-rock.edu [208.81.88.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1640B8FC23 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@simons-rock.edu) Received: from cesium.hyperfine.info (c2.8d.5646.static.theplanet.com [70.86.141.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hedwig.simons-rock.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF032BB34D; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:48:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:48:28 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: Richard Tector Message-ID: <20090129154828.GC63236@cesium.hyperfine.info> References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Charles Sprickman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:48:37 -0000 On 2009-01-29 11:43:46AM +0000, Richard Tector wrote: > Charles Sprickman wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I think this needs a few more eyes: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2009-January/003782.html >> >> In short, writes are slow, likely do to the write-cache being enabled on >> the controller. The sysctl used in 6.x to turn the cache off don't seem >> to be in 7.x. > I am guessing this is only related to SATA drives on SAS controllers? The only mpt hardware I have is LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 and it writes sustained 40MB/s to my LTO-2 drives out of the box without any tweaking. -- =========================================================== Peter C. Lai | Bard College at Simon's Rock Systems Administrator | 84 Alford Rd. Information Technology Svcs. | Gt. Barrington, MA 01230 USA peter AT simons-rock.edu | (413) 528-7428 =========================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:57:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6999106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtector@thekeelecentre.com) Received: from mx0.thekeelecentre.com (mx0.thekeelecentre.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:16f:2::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735C88FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtector@thekeelecentre.com) Received: from localhost (filter.mx0.thekeelecentre.com [217.206.238.165]) by mx0.thekeelecentre.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C1C45020; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at thekeelecentre.com Received: from mx0.thekeelecentre.com ([217.206.238.167]) by localhost (filter.mx0.thekeelecentre.com [217.206.238.165]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0uv7Vn1LdYKu; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.2.11] (daffy.tector.org.uk [82.71.32.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.thekeelecentre.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFC234502B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:12 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4981D1C6.6070605@thekeelecentre.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:56:54 +0000 From: Richard Tector User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter C. Lai" References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> <20090129154828.GC63236@cesium.hyperfine.info> In-Reply-To: <20090129154828.GC63236@cesium.hyperfine.info> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070108010008050208080406" Cc: Charles Sprickman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:21 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070108010008050208080406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter C. Lai wrote: > I am guessing this is only related to SATA drives on SAS controllers? > The only mpt hardware I have is LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 and it writes > sustained 40MB/s to my LTO-2 drives out of the box without any tweaking. Correct. When SATA drives are used instead of SAS drives on this controller it disables the write cache resulting in poor performance. The tunable was added by Scott Long to solve the problem (though at the cost of greater risk to data). 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Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30CEB8FC1D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2009 15:52:19 -0000 Received: from balu.cs.uni-paderborn.de (EHLO balu.cs.uni-paderborn.de) [131.234.21.37] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 16:52:19 +0100 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX193sON0bip3XF8nWjnqcPgkasWEqn0jLfZZgUf+/W 5cJbCFtuLpFDCe Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by balu.cs.uni-paderborn.de with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id KE8PF4-0004DW-C5 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4981D0B0.1060906@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:16 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53 Subject: 7.1-RELEASE growfs/fsck_ffs woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:02 -0000 Greetings, I have a hard time with file system access. Here's the story: I'd been unhappy about GEOM_JOURNAL within the same provider as my /usr and /var partitions (used JOURNAL on a fresh install), it would occasionally give up on fsync() for lock messups (FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2). Several weeks ago, I reverted my -o async journalled /var to softupdates without journal, with no ill effects. AFAIR, I installed with gjournal label with just one provider, and then newfs UFS2 with journal. Earlier today, I disabled the journal on /usr (shutdown to single user mode, dismount, gjournal sync, gjournal stop, gjournal clear, tunefs -J disable, kldunload geom_journal, fsck) - that worked, and fsck preen considered the FS clean. I tried to resize the partition to its full size with growfs; and it warned about being unable to allocate some 58,000 blocks, but performed the operation (i. e. I got a list of superblocks) - apparently it completed. A subsequent fsck -f however turned up with a gazillion of "DUP" blocks, in random places. I have no explanation for that; am currently running fsck -y. Accidentally, I ran growfs twice, but the second run didn't seem to do a lot - it just warned it couldn't allocate 58,600+ sectors and quit. I've also found that fsck_ffs's pass 1b is EXTREMELY slow, and from a cursory glance at pass1b.c, some none-scalable (as in O(n^2) or worse) effects seem to be at play. I'm currently away from the machine, but any insights on the growfs corruption and/or pass1b.c accelerators are welcome - ext2fsck is a lot faster when doing deep searches for duplicate blocks (pass 1b and pass 1c), but I haven't checked the code. The partition slice is several GB in size with default newfs settings, but not overly huge (<< 100 GB), and last time I checked, it had taken around 30 min for scanning 7 out of 78 (IIRC) cylinder groups. I hope fsck doesn't do more damage... ;-) This is an Athlon XP 2500+ (later "Barton" version with 512 kB L2 cache) with 1 GB of RAM and a reasonably fast Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive, with a reasonably fast fsck if pass1b isn't needed (perhaps two or three minutes). I've recompiled fsck_ffs with -O3 -march=athlon-xp to peep cycles, but compiler optimization cannot fix slow algorithms. Thanks in advance, Matthias From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:19:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355CB106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net [70.169.168.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA8B8FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.14.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id n0TG7gtd055848 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:07:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from [192.168.1.40] [192.168.1.40] by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL); Thu Jan 29 10:07:42 2009 Message-ID: <4981D44C.4050305@denninger.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:07:40 -0600 From: Karl Denninger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040403000404040704040808" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Intel Mobo MARVEL RAID adapters and amd64 FreeBSD on QuadCore and i7 series Processors X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040403000404040704040808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These show up under Windows XP as if they are SCSI adapters (they're not, obviously.) Has there been any view towards supporting these on FreeBSD? They're on all the recent Intel motherboards for the last year and a half or so. Also, is there any particular benefit (or penalty) to running the amd64 build on Quad-Core or i7-series processors? I have an app that might benefit from access to more than 4GB of physical RAM as the working dataset grows but am hesitant to run the 64bit version on that processor (which I understand isn't REALLY a 64-bit chip) if I'm going to run into a penalty for doing so in terms of generalized performance. -- -- Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net --------------040403000404040704040808-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE101065675; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053338FC23; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.166.22] ([68.0.14.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TGOZZK062435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:24:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Alex Goncharov In-Reply-To: References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233238367.1779.47.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+6Qnms2UDT760wzFvqvt" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:25:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1233246312.1766.17.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, bms@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:25:37 -0000 --=-+6Qnms2UDT760wzFvqvt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 09:25 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) ----* > | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are > | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to > | update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is > | about 60 or 70 ports now. >=20 > That can be handled, it seems to me. >=20 > My current port upgrade problem is that I cannot csup the tree and get > the old X to rebuild dependent components. >=20 > | FWIW, I have Xserver 1.6 and xrandr bits that are rc already... as well > | as a new intel driver that I don't want to update without xserver 1.6. >=20 > I would be willing to test 1.6 on my many different machines, provided > there is a clear and inexpensive (< 2 hours) path to a rollback. I'll assemble a patch as soon as I can get to it. From where we are now in ports, the only thing that has to be updated that I can think of is the server, then rebuild your drivers. robert. > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- --=-+6Qnms2UDT760wzFvqvt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmB2GgACgkQM4TrQ4qfROOPPgCfYlUDpxPzq5ApJ6P035jHCQJD yD4AnishTNQhw6x/00H0IHJK/tPRD8BZ =pF/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+6Qnms2UDT760wzFvqvt-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:43:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12192106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjr@larush.com) Received: from mail.alisa.org (mail.alisa.org [65.103.114.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EEA8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjr@larush.com) Received: from mail.alisa.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.alisa.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TGh9NM011582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjr@larush.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.alisa.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0TGh9eb011581; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjr@larush.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.alisa.org: www set sender to jjr@larush.com using -f Received: from 169.152.251.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jjr) by www.larush.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:09 -0700 (MST) From: jjr@larush.com To: "Mike Barnard" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail.alisa.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:43:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:43:11 -0000 Mike, I ran into this very issue on a Mac Pro that I installed 7.1-RELEASE on and then cvsup'd, make buildworld to 7.1-STABLE. On my machine, 7.1-RELEASE named the drives ad8, ad9, and ad10 (I have 3 drives and installed 7.1-RELEASE on ad9). When I booted the STABLE keneral (GENERIC no tweaks), this kernel named the drives ad6, ad7, and ad8 and I was dropped into this "Manual root filesystem" prompt. ? did not list any drives however, I entered ufs:ad7s1a and booted the kernel when I recognized that the drive had been re-named from ad9 to ad7. After booting, I changed /etc/fstab appropiately and have had no further problems. I've never run into this with previous upgrades, very odd. regards John > Hi All, > > I have run into a problem that seem rather puzzling. I have upgraded an > installation of FreeBSD from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.0-STABLE and 7.1-STABLE, but > i > fail to boot with either one of the STABLE upgrades. I end up at this > point: > > > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > When i type ?, i get nothing. When i try to load all possible drives, from > ad0s1a to ad9s1a, i get nothing. When i boot kernel.old, i see this: > > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f mem > 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff > at device 31.2 on pci0 > ... > ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 > > It seems that FreeBSD recognises this drive as a SATA300 but later on > refers > to it as SATA150. Could this be the problem. > > This is what i have about this disk when i boot the RELEASE version of > FreeBSD: > > #pciconf -lv > atapci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018a card=0x73361462 chip=0x27c08086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage > Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > > #atacontrol cap ad0 > > Protocol Serial ATA II > device model WDC WD1600AAJS-60PSA0 > serial number WD-WMAP96717073 > firmware revision 21.12M21 > cylinders 16383 > heads 16 > sectors/track 63 > lba supported 268435455 sectors > lba48 supported 312581808 sectors > dma supported > overlap not supported > > Feature Support Enable Value Vendor > write cache yes yes > read ahead yes yes > Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F > Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F > SMART yes yes > microcode download yes yes > security yes no > power management yes yes > advanced power management no no 0/0x00 > automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 0/0x00 > > # atacontrol mode ad0 > current mode = SATA150 > > > When i boot in verbose mode, i get this: > > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f mem > 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff > at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci0: Reserved 0x10 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xfa00 > pci0: child atapci0 requested type 4 for rid 0x24, but the BAR says it is > an > memio > ata0: on atapci0 > atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0x1f0 > atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x14 type 4 at 0x3f6 > ata0: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 > ata0: stat0=0x50 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 > ata0: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 > ata0: reset tp2 stat0=50 stat1=00 devices=0x1 > ioapic0: routing intpin 14 (ISA IRQ 14) to vector 54 > ata0: [MPSAFE] > ata0: [ITHREAD] > ata1: on atapci0 > atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x18 type 4 at 0x170 > atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x1c type 4 at 0x376 > ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 > ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc > ioapic0: routing intpin 15 (ISA IRQ 15) to vector 55 > ata1: [MPSAFE] > ata1: [ITHREAD] > ... > ... > ata0-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire > ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 > ad0: 312581808 sectors [310101C/16H/63S] 16 sectors/interrupt 1 depth > queue > GEOM: new disk ad0 > ad0: Intel check1 failed > ad0: Adaptec check1 failed > ad0: LSI (v3) check1 failed > ad0: LSI (v2) check1 failed > ad0: FreeBSD check1 failed > ata1: reiniting channel .. > ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 > ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc > ata1: reinit done .. > ata1: reiniting channel .. > ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat1=00 > ata1: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: stat1=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb > ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0xc > ata1: reinit done .. > ata1-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire > > > Any one with any ideas? > > > -- > Mike > > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > a million chances happen 99% of the time. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:52:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8A21065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA518FC24 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so141rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=klSV8Bgd7cSlA26QYDGMnKGzgJPWs2XrH4ueOVRlqtg=; b=AF4YmWGrZGotUdBc1dy4VhYT42moJhQPgGjQZOVkKBS2koAg12DepHFmsydOZ3NQpk Ut7tCJcFQvmrIDKP86rv4Z9+fTqoNPMT28nfWbWsaIWO2I6XO31WDXsMzlDfbrRAJlU5 uGhwZOjixzg6uAYDIrZfQpc3aOg3m9N+Mho40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EvruyfmdoxfBHzQpgMbpKFBKigD3HICKVQ5zTQ5pjInJJpC9QuJxx/8KUVbK6BHqiJ oRkZE9ba4B0sDqBxzMiyfrVNPscch5MkCmvnBgKsyUgU321qG3FcOh12B6WRIqV13lBb +YPtMU2RVWkECO4Nq1Cja8qWS9x/tsCV+B8/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.99.2 with SMTP id b2mr126187rvm.46.1233247920293; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129151459.GA49826@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129145446.GA44934@keltia.freenix.fr> <7dc029620901290709h3dbb9a73t8f0f597fe05b3bb1@mail.gmail.com> <20090129151459.GA49826@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:52:00 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901290852u381fd5d9s16828a3220e10eec@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: Ollivier Robert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:01 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Mike Barnard: > > no, i have this: > > options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. > > options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization > > Try adding GEOM_PART_BSD then. no change. I have added this and I still end up with mountroot> -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:57:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF57E106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FD48FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610B1A000B36 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:33:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from coal.localnet (unknown [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3718E1A000B2E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:33:43 -0800 (PST) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:33:42 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (Linux/2.6.26-1-686; KDE/4.1.4; i686; ; ) References: <20090129061029.7316.qmail@mailgate.gta.com> In-Reply-To: <20090129061029.7316.qmail@mailgate.gta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290833.42736.fjwcash@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:57:32 -0000 On January 28, 2009 10:10 pm Larry Baird wrote: > Initially thought this upgrade was a mistake, until I found out about > "hald_enable" and "dbus_enable". Upgrade would have be a lot easier if > they were mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I would have found these > knobs more quickly if mentioned in HALD(8). or if they had default values > in /etc/rc/defaults/rc.conf. Did get a laugh out of HALD(8) telling me /etc/defaults/rc.conf only lists values for things that are started via /etc/rc.d/*, as that is all that ships with FreeBSD. Values that can be added to rc.conf to enable daemons installed via ports obviously can't be listed there, as the ports tree is constantly changing. Ports daemons are started via scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, so you should always check there for new scripts installed via ports, to see if there's anything you need to add to rc.conf. This is covered, I believe, in the rc(8) and/or the ports(7) man page, and the ports section of the Handbook. -- Freddie fjwcash@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:04:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCF5106579C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D34A8FC2D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5632rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:04:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SqvESiRBE7teS/C4Qy1Hd/pFQV5Vmc3ck7J4RVbuqLY=; b=qTNzlF+GuhZZMcH3YOiZswq4zs4xr20OlkloOWdTaMsLjVMawbBDH1Vlc7+JFNOkRs xdpTQli66UZNrtOnUcYZSRh3fsySj/h6GL1zvR2w0FwieOEifozAmK+xkiFLb7IwE3LU msxwzmfLF3HjMWC/SfuNZ5NkZoEhAhaX5wYlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Uh0umQocmJ3szdfJ8lYSAs5ALqepm+j/dJTulK06HRax5LhWd1OvyDwom7GbRQ1LrO KN3xDz7z3Qy29yiPsxZywnW6BpgyefmWayAoTJqmbhGtmpngBvXC+Oe0mNcCftyzm0Kn qWlZg9r9xBcx3hUmYVsj/1U3xUT86KEG7oPeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.142.15 with SMTP id u15mr125630rvn.112.1233248662939; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:04:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:04:22 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901290904m241a101ya5c4e044eac7000b@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: jjr@larush.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:04:24 -0000 Thanks John On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, wrote: > I entered ufs:ad7s1a and booted the kernel when I > recognized that the drive had been re-named from ad9 to ad7. After > booting, I changed /etc/fstab appropiately and have had no further > problems. I've never run into this with previous upgrades, very odd. > Unfortunately, this does not work for me. I tried this from the onset of the problem and ended up with nothing. I got as far as ad15s1a (yeah... pushing it as far as I could) with no results. I cannot seem to get any further than mountroot> how did you notice that the drive numbering had moved from ad9 to ad7? I have booted into single user mode with verbose logging and i see no reference to any adx devices. I do see ata entries which recognise the disk as a Intel ICH7 SATA300 and ata0 being reference at atapci0, but other than that, I see no references to any adx. When i boot the RELEASE kernel, i get this ata0-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 ad0: 312581808 sectors [310101C/16H/63S] 16 sectors/interrupt 1 depth queue When i boot the 7.1 STABLE kernel, with verbose logging, i get this ata0-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire ata1: reiniting channel ... ... and then the famous mountroot> Thanks -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 18:32:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715DA1065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@lameness.info) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C108FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@lameness.info) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so41864rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.126.14 with SMTP id y14mr133898rvc.206.1233251991373; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from indica.petersontechservices.com ([76.14.77.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm80664rvb.7.2009.01.29.09.59.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:59:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chris Peterson To: Chris H In-Reply-To: <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:59:49 -0800 References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:32:11 -0000 Pfsense sounds like exactly what you're looking for. It's a stripped down freeBSD with a fancy web interface (well, not too fancy, it's been incredibly stable for me). I've deployed it a couple times in pseudo production environments and it's been holding up well for the last 1.5years+. You can also check out http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=60_84&products_id=492 for a nice PIX-sized chasis for pfsense if you need a small box. On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Chris H wrote: > Hello, and thank you for your reply. > > Quoting Michael Grant : > >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Chris H wrote: >>> Hello, and thank you for your reply. >>> >>> While it's not /exactly/ what I was looking for - it's close. :) >>> The "filtering" capability is my biggest gripe on the Cisco >>> *DSL products. They're just not as /capable/ as is offered in >>> FBSD. DNS is another plus (pfDNS). But I don't think I'd be >>> modify pfDNS to accomodate BIND, or unbound. Although tinydns >>> might be able to fit the bill. Oh well, it's close - thanks >>> for the pointer. :) >> >> You can run iptables on openwrt. > > Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of pf(4). I think it's > more efficient - especially combined with all the network tuning that > has been done recently by Robert Watson, John Baldwin, Mohan > Srinivasan, > Peter Wemm, and others. Another reason I'm so inclined to be FBSD > centric > on this. :) > >> You can compile most anything for >> it, you're only limited by it's memory and cpu. I'm not familiar >> with >> pfDNS. But if it runs on freebsd, it probably can be made to run on >> openwrt as well. > > Indeed, it's running a FreeBSD base. But like you said; CPU, and > Memory > are the only boundries here. Will need to do more research to compare > limits against a /desired/ install base. > > Thanks again for the reply. > > --Chris > >> >> Michael >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:29:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF19106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699F28FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@stardothosting.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so41863yxb.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.158.19 with SMTP id k19mr230781qbo.14.1233257349538; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from kevin (not.enough.unixsluts.com [76.10.166.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9sm207153qbp.35.2009.01.29.11.29.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: "SDH Support" To: References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmCP/rborq8hetyROCAAjFHwJEYewAB2qlw Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@stardothosting.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:29:10 -0000 > Pfsense sounds like exactly what you're looking for. It's a stripped > down freeBSD with a fancy web interface (well, not too fancy, it's > been incredibly stable for me). I've deployed it a couple times in > pseudo production environments and it's been holding up well for the > last 1.5years+. Seconded for Pfsense -- although I doubt the Cisco hardware would be compatible with FreeBSD, and even if it is , I wouldn't want to use it in a production environment without thorough testing. If someone can provide more detailed hardware specs, including the chipsets and processor details of the cisco hardware , im sure we could realistically evaluate the feasibility. --- Kevin Systems Administrator www.stardothosting.com/linux-vps-hosting From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:19:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD01065672; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brde@optusnet.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92628FC13; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brde@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0TEBodT018443; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:11:50 +1100 Received: from c122-107-120-227.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (c122-107-120-227.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.107.120.227]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0TEBfA8026452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:11:42 +1100 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:11:41 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@delplex.bde.org To: Brent Jones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090129234158.B46285@delplex.bde.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: pathiaki2@yahoo.com, freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ZFS, NFS and Network tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:19:31 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Brent Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Brent Jones wrote: >> ... >> The issue I am seeing, is that for certain file types, the FreeBSD NFS >> client will either issue an ASYNC write, or an FSYNC. >> However, NFSv3 and v4 both support "safe" ASYNC writes in the TCP >> versions of the protocol, so that should be the default. >> Issuing FSYNC's for every compete block transmitted adds substantial >> overhead and slows everything down. I use some patches (mainly for nfs write clustering on the server) by Bjorn Gronwall and some local fixes (mainly for vfs write clustering on the server, and tuning off excessive nfs[io]d daemons which get in each other's way due to poor scheduling, and things that only help for lots of small files), and see reasonable performance in all cases (~90% of disk bandwidth with all-async mounts, and half that with the client mounted noasync on an old version of FreeBSD. The client in -current is faster.) Writing is actually faster than reading here. >> ... >> My NFS mount command lines I have tried to get all data to ASYNC write: >> >> $ mount_nfs -3T -o async 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ >> $ mount_nfs -3T 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ >> $ mount_nfs -4TL 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ Also try -r16384 -w16384, and udp, and async on the server. I think block sizes default to 8K for udp and 32K for tcp. 8K is too small, and 32K may be too large (it increases latency for little benefit if the server fs block size is 16K). udp gives lower latency. async on the server makes little difference provided the server block size is not too small. > I have found a 4 year old bug, which may be related to this. cp uses > mmap for small files (and I imagine lots of things use mmap for file > operations) and causes slowdowns via NFS, due to the fsync data > provided above. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/87792 mmap apparently breaks the async mount preference in the following code: from vnode_pager.c: % /* % * pageouts are already clustered, use IO_ASYNC t o force a bawrite() % * rather then a bdwrite() to prevent paging I/O from saturating % * the buffer cache. Dummy-up the sequential heuristic to cause % * large ranges to cluster. If neither IO_SYNC or IO_ASYNC is set, % * the system decides how to cluster. % */ % ioflags = IO_VMIO; % if (flags & (VM_PAGER_PUT_SYNC | VM_PAGER_PUT_INVAL)) % ioflags |= IO_SYNC; This apparently gives lots of sync writes. (Sync writes are the default for nfs, but we mount with async to try to get async writes.) % else if ((flags & VM_PAGER_CLUSTER_OK) == 0) % ioflags |= IO_ASYNC; nfs doesn't even support this flag. In fact, ffs is the only file system that supports it, and here is the only place that sets it. This might explain some slowness. One of the bugs in vfs clustering that I don't have is related to this. IIRC, mounting the server with -o async doesn't work as well as it should because the buffer cache becomes congested with i/o that should have been sent to the disk. Some writes must be done async as explained above, but one place in vfs_cache.c is too agressive in delaying async writes for file systems that are mounted async. This problem is more noticeable for nfs, at least with networks not much faster than disks, since it results in the client and server taking turns waiting for each other. (The names here are very confusing -- the async mount flag normally delays both sync and async writes for as long as possible, except for nfs it doesn't affect delays but asks for async writes instead of sync writes on the server, while the IO_ASYNC flag asks for async writes and thus often has the opposite sense to the async mount flag.) % ioflags |= (flags & VM_PAGER_PUT_INVAL) ? IO_INVAL: 0; % ioflags |= IO_SEQMAX << IO_SEQSHIFT; Bruce From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:24:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37CB1065677 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (cl-43.dus-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:198:200:2a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6475F8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (e180174011.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.174.11]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0TKOc9m039274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:24:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TKOYVr009496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:24:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from uqs@localhost) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0TKOTHa009495; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:24:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:24:29 +0100 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: Timo Rikkonen Message-ID: <20090129202429.GA3536@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> Mail-Followup-To: Timo Rikkonen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ed Schouten , Marcel Moolenaar References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Ed Schouten , Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 15:00:11 +0200, Timo Rikkonen wrote: > Hi, > > We are using "VScom PCI-200L" and "Moxa Technologies, C168H/PCI" > -cards for serial ports. After installing 7.0 the ports or the > connection to the port hang after a while. A "while" could be > half-a-day or 10 minutes. There is no error message to be seen > anywhere. What exactly do you mean by "hang"? I discovered something odd, when I upgraded my 6.3 box to 7.1, namely, that the serial console (no matter if it's sio or uart) will not echo anything, once I "hang up" the line for the first time. To make this clear: I reboot with serial console attached, I see kernel console, then getty/login prompt. I can login fine, and do stuff. Once I exit tip(1) on the terminal, the port is "mostly" dead on the server. I say mostly, because I can still blindly enter the root login and confirm via separate ssh login, that I'm logged in to the machine on the serial getty port. So it seems to me, whenever sio/uart receive the first device close event, they get b0rked and receive only input, but can no longer send any output. > Not all ports hang at the same time, it could be just one or two of > them. Earlier versions (6.2-RELEASE) work just fine. The ports have > different devicenames after 7.0, in 6.2 they were /dev/cuad4-7, now > they are /dev/cuau0-3 (uart?) Try rebuilding a kernel without uart and see if they come up as sio ports again (and work?) > We have over 20 installations, now two of them have been upgraded to 7.0 with mentioned side effects. Is this identical hardware? Cheers, Ulrich Spörlein -- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:33:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229A106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1448FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TKXZuH042435; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:33:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0TKXYZp062630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:33:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200901292033.n0TKXYZp062630@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:33:36 -0500 To: Timo Rikkonen , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Subject: Re: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:33:38 -0000 At 08:00 AM 1/26/2009, Timo Rikkonen wrote: >Hi, > >We are using "VScom PCI-200L" and "Moxa Technologies, C168H/PCI" >-cards for serial ports. After installing 7.0 the ports or the >connection to the port hang after a while. A "while" could be >half-a-day or 10 minutes. >There is no error message to be seen anywhere. > >Not all ports hang at the same time, it could be just one or two of >them. Earlier versions (6.2-RELEASE) work just fine. >The ports have different devicenames after 7.0, in 6.2 they were >/dev/cuad4-7, now they are /dev/cuau0-3 (uart?) Is the application fairly low speed (e.g. 9600bps or slower) ? If so, try with 7.1R, not 7 and add hint.uart.0.flags="0x100" hint.uart.1.flags="0x100" to /boot/device.hints http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121421 has details ---Mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:32:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFEE1065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: from mail.utahbroadband.com (mail.utahbroadband.com [204.14.20.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC038FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danallen46@airwired.net) Received: (qmail 16753 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jan 2009 21:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (danallen46@airwired.net@66.29.174.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 29 Jan 2009 21:20:41 -0000 Message-Id: <01CB956E-94C0-4819-8362-D24347405C67@airwired.net> From: Dan Allen To: Robert Noland , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:32:05 -0700 References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: bms@FreeBSD.org, Alex Goncharov Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:32:07 -0000 Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboard and mouse work, and so does firefox and my other apps. Thanks to everyone else for emailing me with ideas and suggestions! Dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:45:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5EC106566B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclark46@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0788FC1C; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclark46@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WWBgbTtJMgTuHdb81SQx81/WiPzKRyjbwudCM/AgtZ5WwVH29qL/1Ej03B8zVqgr; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [208.118.36.246] (helo=joker.seclark.com) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSehX-0006U9-6B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:45:31 -0500 Message-ID: <49822379.3010203@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:45:29 -0500 From: Stephen Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Allen References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <01CB956E-94C0-4819-8362-D24347405C67@airwired.net> In-Reply-To: <01CB956E-94C0-4819-8362-D24347405C67@airwired.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec797b542cf685f6091095438f5cb613e7d0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.118.36.246 Cc: bms@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Robert Noland , Alex Goncharov Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:45:34 -0000 Dan Allen wrote: > Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. > > I have run > > portupgrade -rf libxcb > I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to bring X back up. This should have compiled and built everything that was affected by the new X stuff - but it obviously didn't. > and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the > standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. > > After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboard > and mouse work, and so does firefox and my other apps. > > Thanks to everyone else for emailing me with ideas and suggestions! > > Dan > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:58:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB1C106564A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF4B8FC14; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.166.46] ([68.0.14.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TLvXwE064389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: sclark46@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <49822379.3010203@earthlink.net> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <01CB956E-94C0-4819-8362-D24347405C67@airwired.net> <49822379.3010203@earthlink.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-OPs2JdW770HRx/Bzn4JF" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:58:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1233266289.66977.11.camel@squirrel.corp.cox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dan Allen , bms@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Alex Goncharov Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:58:38 -0000 --=-OPs2JdW770HRx/Bzn4JF Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 16:45 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Dan Allen wrote: > > Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. > >=20 > > I have run > >=20 > > portupgrade -rf libxcb > >=20 >=20 > I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa > This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. > I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to > bring X back up. portmanager -u -p -l -y worked beautifully to upgrade gnome and X. I did pkg_delete -f gtkmm for gnome, but otherwise... Actually, I didn't have anything to do with writing it, I just keep it working since it DTRT... robert. > This should have compiled and built everything that was affected > by the new X stuff - but it obviously didn't. >=20 > > and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the=20 > > standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. > >=20 > > After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboard=20 > > and mouse work, and so does firefox and my other apps. > >=20 > > Thanks to everyone else for emailing me with ideas and suggestions! > >=20 > > Dan > > =20 > > =20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > >=20 >=20 >=20 --=-OPs2JdW770HRx/Bzn4JF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmCJnEACgkQM4TrQ4qfRONmSgCcDSt8OZ6a+Tf6QmraANPX68WU E2QAnjeg5OuU1c76boSGZyOcYkqAQVlv =8faR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-OPs2JdW770HRx/Bzn4JF-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:32:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359FC1065790 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F3E8FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79AB2630AE; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:32:51 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: w45Mka9Cwhe+6TcrcixcgoQIjjpU9BciLI9ZonCguwuM 1233268371 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBC0D2EFCD; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:32:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:32:48 +0000 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: admin@stardothosting.com References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> In-Reply-To: <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:32:56 -0000 SDH Support wrote: > Seconded for Pfsense -- although I doubt the Cisco hardware would be > compatible with FreeBSD, and even if it is , I wouldn't want to use it in a > production environment without thorough testing. > > If someone can provide more detailed hardware specs, including the chipsets > and processor details of the cisco hardware , im sure we could realistically > evaluate the feasibility. > I'm very, very happy with pfSense. It's a case of the folk behind it having followed an software appliance-style model and that's what makes it stable. I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco 827 a while back. The PowerPC port has gone some way towards this, but I don't see folk installing it on old Cisco hardware yet... unless the knowledge gets out there. cheers BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:38:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0641065688 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90718FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3474B46B49; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:38:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Pete French Subject: Re: Big problems with 7.1 locking up :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:38:58 -0000 On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Pete French wrote: > I have a number of HP 1U servers, all of which were running 7.0 perfectly > happily. I have been testing 7.1 in it's various incarnations for the last > couple of months on our test server and it has performed perfectly. > > So the last two days I have been round upgrading all our servers, knowing > that I had run the system stably on identical hardware for some time. For those following this other than Pete, who I've been in private correspondence with: it seems that he is running into two different deadlocks in the routing code. One of them (at least) is triggered by a lock order problem relating to the processing of ICMP redirects -- uncommon in most configurations, but quite a few on his network, which triggers quickly under load. Kip Macy has corrected at least one (both?) problems in head, and plans to MFC the fixes in the near future. We'll follow up further once the fixes are merged, and if any further problems transpire. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge > > Since then I have starte seeing machines lock up. This always happens under > heavy disc load. When I bring the machine back up then sometimes it fails > to fsck due to a partialy truncated inode. The locksup appear to > be disc related - on my mysql msater machine it will come back up with > files somewhat shorted than those which ahve aready been transmitted to > the slave (i.e. some data was in memory, and claimed to have been written > to the drive, but never made it onto the disc). > > The only time I have seen anything useful on the screen was during one lockup > where I got a message about a spin lock being held too long and some > comment in parentheses about it being a turnstile lock. > > Help! :-( > > I am now downgrading all the machine to 7.0 as fast as I can - though the > machine I am trying to compile it on has locked up once during the compile > so I havent got anywhere so far. > > The machines are HP Proliant DL360 G5s - they have an embedded P400i > RAID controller with a pair of mirrored drives connected. Each one has > both ethernets connected, bundled using lagg and LACP. > > Advice ? > > -pete. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 23:02:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD3310656F7 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBF18FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 14A191A3C3E; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:02:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:02:48 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Brent Jones Message-ID: <20090129230247.GF4375@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS writes calling FSYNC and ASYNC not consistent X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:02:48 -0000 Apologies for being terse, in a hurry here. 1) -o async doesn't work with NFS, don't use that. 2) how big are the text versus binary files? 3) how are you copying them over nfs? I suspect, (could be wrong of course) that the ascii files are a lot smaller than the binary files, so what's happening is that for binary files, the client is issuing write-behind async, however for ascii files its issuing the writes at close time which will force the sync flag. -Alfred * Brent Jones [090128 19:38] wrote: > Hello FreeBSD users, > I am running into some performance problems with NFSv3/v4 mounts. > I have a Sun X4540 running OpenSolaris 2008.11 with ZFS exporting NFS shares > The NFS clients are a FreeBSD 6.3 32 bit, quad core xeon with 4GB ram > and a FreeBSD 7.1 32bit with same hardware. > > The issue I am seeing, is that for certain file types, the FreeBSD NFS > client will either issue an ASYNC write, or an FSYNC. > However, NFSv3 and v4 both support "safe" ASYNC writes in the TCP > versions of the protocol, so that should be the default. > Issuing FSYNC's for every compete block transmitted adds substantial > overhead and slows everything down. > > The two test files I have that can reproduce this data are a file > created by 'dump' which is just binary data: > > $ file testbinery > testbinery: data > > ASCII text file from a Maildir format: > > $ file ascittest > ascittest: ASCII mail text > > My NFS mount command lines I have tried to get all data to ASYNC write: > > $ mount_nfs -3T -o async 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > $ mount_nfs -3T 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > $ mount_nfs -4TL 192.168.0.19:/pdxfilu01/obsmtp /mnt/obsmtp/ > > Here is an excerpt from a snoop from the binary data file: > > $ snoop rpc nfs > > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 > (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 testbinery > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 OK FH=57D3 > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C ACCESS3 FH=57D3 > (read,lookup,modify,extend,delete,execute) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R ACCESS3 OK (read,modify,extend) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C SETATTR3 FH=57D3 > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R SETATTR3 OK > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 0 for 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 582647808 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 592871424 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=57D3 at 605421568 for > 32768 (ASYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (ASYNC) > > > And on and on.. it will acheive near full wire-speed, about 110MB/sec > during the copy > > > Here is the same snoop, only copying the ASCII mail file: > > $ snoop rpc nfs > > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C LOOKUP3 FH=BB85 ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R LOOKUP3 No such file or directory > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C CREATE3 FH=BB85 (UNCHECKED) ascittest > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R CREATE3 OK FH=69D3 > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 0 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 32768 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > obsmtp02.local -> pdxfilu01 NFS C WRITE3 FH=69D3 at 65536 for 32768 (FSYNC) > pdxfilu01 -> obsmtp02.local NFS R WRITE3 OK 32768 (FSYNC) > > > And so on. I've reproduced this with several files, and the only > difference between tests is the file type. > Is the FreeBSD NFS client requesting FSYNC or ASYNC depending on the > file type/contents? > If so, is there a tuneable setting to make all write ASYNC? > Otherwise, FSYNC'ing for every block written over NFS will cause so > many IOPS on the NFS server, that performance will degrade severely. > > Testing with an OpenSolaris 2008.11 client will issue ASYNC writes for > any file type, if mounted with NFSv3 of NFSv4 (TCP). > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > Brent Jones > brent@servuhome.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - Alfred Perlstein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 23:09:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD03106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D708FC26 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0TN9llL095742; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0TN9lC7095741; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:46 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129150946.8kkcd8e34c8840ws@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:46 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Chris Peterson Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:09:58 -0000 Hello, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Chris Peterson : > Pfsense sounds like exactly what you're looking for. It's a stripped > down freeBSD Don't get me wrong, I think pfSense goes a long way to my intended goal - not the least of which, is pfDNS. I haven't written it off by any means. > with a fancy web interface (well, not too fancy, To be honest - the first thing I'd do, is strip the (any) GUI stuff out. I have no issue with opening a terminal shell via cu - tip(1). In fact, for security reasons, I'd prefer to insure that the only access available is over a serial port (local). Not to mention the size/space savings gains. :) > it's been incredibly stable for me). I've deployed it a couple times > in pseudo production environments and it's been holding up well for > the last 1.5years+. > > You can also check out > http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=60_84&products_id=492 > for a nice PIX-sized chasis for pfsense if you need a small box. Looks intriguing. The only real advantage I see here, would be the amount of ram available. The 837 I propose to use, only supports 64Mb. Thanks again for your infoamative response. --Chris > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Chris H wrote: > >> Hello, and thank you for your reply. >> >> Quoting Michael Grant : >> >>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Chris H wrote: >>>> Hello, and thank you for your reply. >>>> >>>> While it's not /exactly/ what I was looking for - it's close. :) >>>> The "filtering" capability is my biggest gripe on the Cisco >>>> *DSL products. They're just not as /capable/ as is offered in >>>> FBSD. DNS is another plus (pfDNS). But I don't think I'd be >>>> modify pfDNS to accomodate BIND, or unbound. Although tinydns >>>> might be able to fit the bill. Oh well, it's close - thanks >>>> for the pointer. :) >>> >>> You can run iptables on openwrt. >> >> Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of pf(4). I think it's >> more efficient - especially combined with all the network tuning that >> has been done recently by Robert Watson, John Baldwin, Mohan Srinivasan, >> Peter Wemm, and others. Another reason I'm so inclined to be FBSD centric >> on this. :) >> >>> You can compile most anything for >>> it, you're only limited by it's memory and cpu. I'm not familiar with >>> pfDNS. But if it runs on freebsd, it probably can be made to run on >>> openwrt as well. >> >> Indeed, it's running a FreeBSD base. But like you said; CPU, and Memory >> are the only boundries here. Will need to do more research to compare >> limits against a /desired/ install base. >> >> Thanks again for the reply. >> >> --Chris >> >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 01:29:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE33106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from inf0s@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9298FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from inf0s@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0U1GO9k096780; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from inf0s@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0U1GLmd096779; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from inf0s@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:16:21 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129171621.vytaat2kw8gck8cw@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:16:21 -0800 From: inf0s@1command.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> In-Reply-To: <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: admin@stardothosting.com Subject: RE: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:29:04 -0000 Hello, and thank you for your reply. Quoting SDH Support : > > > >> Pfsense sounds like exactly what you're looking for. It's a stripped >> down freeBSD with a fancy web interface (well, not too fancy, it's >> been incredibly stable for me). I've deployed it a couple times in >> pseudo production environments and it's been holding up well for the >> last 1.5years+. > > Seconded for Pfsense -- although I doubt the Cisco hardware would be > compatible with FreeBSD, and even if it is , I wouldn't want to use it in a > production environment without thorough testing. > > If someone can provide more detailed hardware specs, including the chipsets > and processor details of the cisco hardware , im sure we could realistically > evaluate the feasibility. Good call. I should have known better than to not provide that info. Here is all the data I have on these: https://bsdforge.net/cisco-data/ There are several to choose from. :) Thank you again for taking the time to respond - and for the thoughtful reminder to provide more information. ;) --Chris > > > --- > Kevin > Systems Administrator > www.stardothosting.com/linux-vps-hosting > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 01:53:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73522106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184EB8FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0U1rJto097087; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0U1rGJM097086; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:53:16 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129175316.u6rdv1kodcc0sgk4@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:53:16 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <6101e8c40901291131p3491bb40n8a7c582619ac4412@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6101e8c40901291131p3491bb40n8a7c582619ac4412@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Oliver Pinter Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:53:27 -0000 Hello, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Oliver Pinter : > http://m0n0.ch/wall/ ? Good candidate. Thanks for mentioning it. On the up side - it's FreeBSD based. :) I guess my only disappointments would be that configuration is done by way of PHP. But of course I could fix that. Doesn't provide swap space - this seems like this could be a real liability under heavy load/outside abuse, even with a decent amount of RAM/Memory. Thanks again for the reply. --Chris > > On 1/29/09, Chris H wrote: >> Greetings, >> I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out >> a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over >> a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the router/modem). >> So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a >> box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it >> be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike >> one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched >> the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing >> that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that it >> is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can >> tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me further. >> Maybe someones already tried it? >> >> Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. >> >> --Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 02:18:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB51106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13AC8FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0U2Ide7097315; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0U2Id9j097314; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:38 -0800 Message-ID: <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:38 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:18:48 -0000 Hello Bruce, and thank you for your reply. Quoting "Bruce M. Simpson" : > SDH Support wrote: >> Seconded for Pfsense -- although I doubt the Cisco hardware would be >> compatible with FreeBSD, and even if it is , I wouldn't want to use it in a >> production environment without thorough testing. >> >> If someone can provide more detailed hardware specs, including the chipsets >> and processor details of the cisco hardware , im sure we could realistically >> evaluate the feasibility. Please see: https://bsdforge.net/cisco-data/ for a list of manuals I have available for download on these (and similar). >> > > I'm very, very happy with pfSense. It's a case of the folk behind it > having followed an software appliance-style model and that's what > makes it stable. > > I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco 827 > a while back. That's good news. I'll have to see if I can get more info on that. I just purchased a "lot" of cisco *DSL/routers on ebay, in an effort to push this project forward (I can experiment on these with less concern). So my list of HW now includes: * 3 - 802's * 2 - 1604's * 1 - 1721 * 2 - 837's Thank you again for your input. --Chris > The PowerPC port has gone some way towards this, but I don't see folk > installing it on old Cisco hardware yet... unless the knowledge gets > out there. > > cheers > BMS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 04:43:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7E51065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643748FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 33774 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 2009 04:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (spork@96.57.144.66) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 30 Jan 2009 04:43:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:43:11 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Richard Tector In-Reply-To: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> Message-ID: References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:43:14 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Richard Tector wrote: > Charles Sprickman wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I think this needs a few more eyes: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2009-January/003782.html >> >> In short, writes are slow, likely do to the write-cache being enabled on >> the controller. The sysctl used in 6.x to turn the cache off don't seem to >> be in 7.x. > > I have two Dell 860's here also running 7.1-REL. > A simple dd on one shows roughly 60MB/s writes to a mirror of 2 320GB disks > on what I'm assuming is the same LSI controller card (SAS5) > > richard@moses:~# cat /boot/loader.conf > hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc=1 > > Seems to work just fine for me. Well, now I'm puzzled. A "sysctl -a" shows no "hw.mpt." tree at all: # sysctl -a|grep hw.mpt # It's a poor test, but: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/jails/foo count=1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 536870912 bytes transferred in 144.830977 secs (3706879 bytes/sec) # dd if=/jails/foo of=/dev/null 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 536870912 bytes transferred in 4.136582 secs (129786112 bytes/sec) I added the tunable to loader.conf: $ cat /boot/loader.conf hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc=1 And still nothing in the sysctl output (there was on 6.4 on this same hardware, FWIW): $ sysctl -a |grep hw.mpt $ However, performance did improve: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/jails/foo count=16M 16777216+0 records in 16777216+0 records out 8589934592 bytes transferred in 276.332753 secs (31085474 bytes/sec) Any idea what happened to the sysctl? Is there some other method to verify the loader tunable took (other than testing the throughput)? I assume there's still no management tools for these controllers, right? Thanks, Charles > Regards, > > Richard > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:04:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB9A106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2001:470:8:162::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C878FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LSlYh-0000mi-Kt; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:04:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:04:51 -0500 From: Gary Palmer To: Charles Sprickman Message-ID: <20090130050451.GF81380@in-addr.com> References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Richard Tector Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:04:53 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:43:11PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: [ snip ] > Any idea what happened to the sysctl? Is there some other method to > verify the loader tunable took (other than testing the throughput)? Boot with -v. If the loader tunable took effect, you should see "Enabling SATA WC on phy " instead of "Disabling SATA ..." Regards, Gary From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:52:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E43106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from warped.bluecherry.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:440:eeee:fffb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3268FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw-1-pt.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0e:47e::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by warped.bluecherry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F4FCA1CAF76; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0U5qMt7061680; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:22 -0600 (CST) From: Wes Morgan To: Mike Barnard In-Reply-To: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:52:31 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Mike Barnard wrote: > Hi All, > > I have run into a problem that seem rather puzzling. I have upgraded an > installation of FreeBSD from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.0-STABLE and 7.1-STABLE, but i > fail to boot with either one of the STABLE upgrades. I end up at this point: > > > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > When i type ?, i get nothing. When i try to load all possible drives, from > ad0s1a to ad9s1a, i get nothing. When i boot kernel.old, i see this: > > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff > at device 31.2 on pci0 > ... > ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master SATA150 > > It seems that FreeBSD recognises this drive as a SATA300 but later on refers > to it as SATA150. Could this be the problem. Have you checked the jumper settings on the drive? There may be a jumper forcing SATA150 mode on the drive. I'd reset everything to factory defaults if possible. You might be able to use the ata driver from 7.0-R in -stable to boot your system. If that works, try searching for the commit that breaks your controller. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:58:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7D1106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B70E8FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so294308fka.11 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:58:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QJzWopm/RFZXmU72E1vuoNV6yYHfkLMYJFRRLmgSgmM=; b=D4NwS/pqd0yFZtaFg23vuO3Fr6TZBKNgQvyFGYDu1TM0qtzc83WJsKxZhAMcSWnIOQ KmN7PlKZIKb2Dj8qxHvOjs8p6Y/K6xhlxziUtV303ZN587Vnd2hqdFf1qv3epuWCmWXF T7qgk+t69Wzc5rHCaHDZb1qXnWp0b/rOEq6zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QIdF3+o10bliHIvOjyri0JTLlA3T/z3tfbEioIVVPEpFG8iifl99uEPZTOwS0KrlvP vzsdpDN+zmfVLHJ5kaWFWbB8A658wxhOAP0Xo4FkauofSyNJJAQYdcKPWDp7iJzrH824 76/88eT3er7/CHp/6NH4Kkg+olam9X8QRKBNg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.66 with SMTP id b2mr748640fas.3.1233295096069; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:58:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:58:16 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901292158j21075583q36ac558ddf82c4f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: Wes Morgan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:58:18 -0000 Hi Wes, > Have you checked the jumper settings on the drive? There may be a jumper > forcing SATA150 mode on the drive. I'd reset everything to factory defaults > if possible. > It's the first thing I did and I did it for the sake of doing it since this is a brand new computer straight out of HP. The drive is in factory defaults. I have done all the basics; BIOS upgrade, drive settings, BIOS settings..... > You might be able to use the ata driver from 7.0-R in -stable to boot your > system. If that works, try searching for the commit that breaks your > controller. > hmmm.... I did not want to go down this track... I was not sure what else i would break if I did this. -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 06:29:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762C1106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471298FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so309204rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:29:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Gp8n0Tsu9Darrn+ihOAAPZZ6OGsdkgzX8o3RFQxmoho=; b=rQTa6Uuei/ncjMfZpnene2wdVo1lbRuAgG2Y8fSW+jjk7iws39An6owES4IUv9iIuz ryz+W9Jv8CgLts8ErvqcLtTCjhB9hKg9iFLxW67hDisvifU/9qQ+HWGqAMhROwhhpWf4 4ZFwECXG9YLspdaKby6CnMXymRdO7Xy5QsLG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CDnAW/JJLD0qdssIsz1UU9VDzTnH6g7QMmXXCknzgFdwECPDr+5opLs5+bNCUajxSy CizOu9c4NsozxGg0MEaAr9zRM0A44p0r3sosn4ogq371AD2X1pW2GhLiHtAxTrChlyP+ P7e/yMTlXu67KDjbte6LrDCzkVVl11Z2qbPv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.107.13 with SMTP id j13mr456862rvm.65.1233296982353; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:29:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877i4du0hd.fsf@placid.homeunix.net> References: <7dc029620901290634q7ca5361ct496fc2c4a6bfe53f@mail.gmail.com> <7dc029620901290904m241a101ya5c4e044eac7000b@mail.gmail.com> <877i4du0hd.fsf@placid.homeunix.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:29:42 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620901292229p7e517c50q1ab4897fc7a80e31@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: Phillip Musumeci Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after upgrade to 7.0 or 7.1 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:29:43 -0000 Thanks Phillip, > 1) you can have a boot hint in file /boot/loader.conf to say where the > system should take the root file system (and therefore /etc/fstab) from. This would work if the OS was able to detect the disk. In this case, after I boot the STABLE installation, i do not see any hard drive detected. With this entry, I dont think it would boot since FreeBSD cannot see the disk. I will give it a try and get back to you. -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 08:01:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64C1065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from espresso2.syncrontech.com (espresso2.syncrontech.com [213.28.98.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18538FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com (ink.syncrontech.com [192.168.2.107]) by espresso2.syncrontech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0U80lPE053581; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:00:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) by ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) with mapi; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:00:42 +0200 From: Timo Rikkonen To: =?utf-8?B?VWxyaWNoIFNww7ZybGVpbg==?= Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:00:44 +0200 Thread-Topic: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while Thread-Index: AcmCT6Mcjl093p+wSCafC2q+h0drSgAWewZQ Message-ID: References: <20090129202429.GA3536@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> In-Reply-To: <20090129202429.GA3536@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, fi-FI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ed Schouten , Marcel Moolenaar , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:01:21 -0000 SGksDQoNCldpdGggJ2hhbmcnIEkgbWVhbiB0aGUgc3RvcCBvZiB0aGUgZGF0YSBmbG93LiBUaGVy ZSdzIGEgbWVhc3VyZW1lbnQgZGV2aWNlIGNvbm5lY3RlZCB0byB0aGUgc2VyaWFsIHBvcnQsIHdo aWNoIHNlbmRzIGV2ZXJ5IG1pbnV0ZSBkYXRhIHRvIG91ciBjb21wdXRlci4gVGhlIGxpbmUgaXMg bmV2ZXIgY2xvc2VkIGJ1dCBhZnRlciBhIHdoaWxlIGRhdGEgaXMgbm8gbG9uZ2VyIHJlY2VpdmVk Lg0KDQpUcmllZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJ1aWxkaW5nIGtlcm5lbCB3aXRob3V0IHVhcnQsIGFuZCB0aGUg cG9ydHMgcmVhbGx5IGNhbWUgb3V0IGFzIHNpbydzLCBidXQgdGhlIGRldmljZWZpbGUgbnVtYmVy aW5nIHdhcyBzdGlsbCBvZGQsIG5vdyB0aGV5IHdlcmUgL2Rldi9jdWFkMC0zLCB0aGUgY3VhZDAg dXNlZCB0byBiZSB0aGUgbW90aGVyYm9hcmQtc2VyaWFscG9ydCBkZXZpY2VmaWxlIChpcyBub3cg L2Rldi9jdWFkNCkgYW5kIGZvciB0aGlzIHJlYXNvbiAocGVyaGFwcz8pIGN1YWQwIGRvZXMgbm90 IHdvcmsuDQoNCkhhcmR3YXJlIGlzIGlkZW50aWNhbCwgb25seSBjaGFuZ2VkIHRoaW5nIGlzIHRo ZSBCU0QtdmVyc2lvbi4NCg0KUmVnYXJkcywNClRpbW8NCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdl LS0tLS0NCkZyb206IFVscmljaCBTcMO2cmxlaW4gW21haWx0bzp1c3BvZXJsZWluQGdtYWlsLmNv bV0gDQpTZW50OiAyOS4gdGFtbWlrdXV0YSAyMDA5IDIyOjI0DQpUbzogVGltbyBSaWtrb25lbg0K Q2M6IGZyZWVic2Qtc3RhYmxlQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnOyBFZCBTY2hvdXRlbjsgTWFyY2VsIE1vb2xl bmFhcg0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IC9kZXYvY3VhdSogcG9ydHMgaGFuZyBhZnRlciBhIHdoaWxlDQoN Ck9uIE1vbiwgMjYuMDEuMjAwOSBhdCAxNTowMDoxMSArMDIwMCwgVGltbyBSaWtrb25lbiB3cm90 ZToNCj4gSGksDQo+IA0KPiBXZSBhcmUgdXNpbmcgIlZTY29tIFBDSS0yMDBMIiBhbmQgIk1veGEg VGVjaG5vbG9naWVzLCBDMTY4SC9QQ0kiDQo+IC1jYXJkcyBmb3Igc2VyaWFsIHBvcnRzLiBBZnRl ciBpbnN0YWxsaW5nIDcuMCB0aGUgcG9ydHMgb3IgdGhlDQo+IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24gdG8gdGhlIHBv cnQgaGFuZyBhZnRlciBhIHdoaWxlLiBBICJ3aGlsZSIgY291bGQgYmUNCj4gaGFsZi1hLWRheSBv ciAxMCBtaW51dGVzLiBUaGVyZSBpcyBubyBlcnJvciBtZXNzYWdlIHRvIGJlIHNlZW4NCj4gYW55 d2hlcmUuDQoNCldoYXQgZXhhY3RseSBkbyB5b3UgbWVhbiBieSAiaGFuZyI/IEkgZGlzY292ZXJl ZCBzb21ldGhpbmcgb2RkLCB3aGVuIEkNCnVwZ3JhZGVkIG15IDYuMyBib3ggdG8gNy4xLCBuYW1l bHksIHRoYXQgdGhlIHNlcmlhbCBjb25zb2xlIChubyBtYXR0ZXINCmlmIGl0J3Mgc2lvIG9yIHVh cnQpIHdpbGwgbm90IGVjaG8gYW55dGhpbmcsIG9uY2UgSSAiaGFuZyB1cCIgdGhlIGxpbmUNCmZv ciB0aGUgZmlyc3QgdGltZS4NCg0KVG8gbWFrZSB0aGlzIGNsZWFyOg0KDQpJIHJlYm9vdCB3aXRo IHNlcmlhbCBjb25zb2xlIGF0dGFjaGVkLCBJIHNlZSBrZXJuZWwgY29uc29sZSwgdGhlbg0KZ2V0 dHkvbG9naW4gcHJvbXB0LiBJIGNhbiBsb2dpbiBmaW5lLCBhbmQgZG8gc3R1ZmYuIE9uY2UgSSBl eGl0IHRpcCgxKQ0Kb24gdGhlIHRlcm1pbmFsLCB0aGUgcG9ydCBpcyAibW9zdGx5IiBkZWFkIG9u IHRoZSBzZXJ2ZXIuIEkgc2F5IG1vc3RseSwNCmJlY2F1c2UgSSBjYW4gc3RpbGwgYmxpbmRseSBl bnRlciB0aGUgcm9vdCBsb2dpbiBhbmQgY29uZmlybSB2aWENCnNlcGFyYXRlIHNzaCBsb2dpbiwg dGhhdCBJJ20gbG9nZ2VkIGluIHRvIHRoZSBtYWNoaW5lIG9uIHRoZSBzZXJpYWwNCmdldHR5IHBv cnQuDQoNClNvIGl0IHNlZW1zIHRvIG1lLCB3aGVuZXZlciBzaW8vdWFydCByZWNlaXZlIHRoZSBm aXJzdCBkZXZpY2UgY2xvc2UNCmV2ZW50LCB0aGV5IGdldCBiMHJrZWQgYW5kIHJlY2VpdmUgb25s eSBpbnB1dCwgYnV0IGNhbiBubyBsb25nZXIgc2VuZA0KYW55IG91dHB1dC4NCg0KPiBOb3QgYWxs IHBvcnRzIGhhbmcgYXQgdGhlIHNhbWUgdGltZSwgaXQgY291bGQgYmUganVzdCBvbmUgb3IgdHdv IG9mDQo+IHRoZW0uIEVhcmxpZXIgdmVyc2lvbnMgKDYuMi1SRUxFQVNFKSB3b3JrIGp1c3QgZmlu ZS4gVGhlIHBvcnRzIGhhdmUNCj4gZGlmZmVyZW50IGRldmljZW5hbWVzIGFmdGVyIDcuMCwgaW4g Ni4yIHRoZXkgd2VyZSAvZGV2L2N1YWQ0LTcsIG5vdw0KPiB0aGV5IGFyZSAvZGV2L2N1YXUwLTMg KHVhcnQ/KQ0KDQpUcnkgcmVidWlsZGluZyBhIGtlcm5lbCB3aXRob3V0IHVhcnQgYW5kIHNlZSBp ZiB0aGV5IGNvbWUgdXAgYXMgc2lvDQpwb3J0cyBhZ2FpbiAoYW5kIHdvcms/KQ0KDQo+IFdlIGhh dmUgb3ZlciAyMCBpbnN0YWxsYXRpb25zLCBub3cgdHdvIG9mIHRoZW0gaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHVwZ3Jh ZGVkIHRvIDcuMCB3aXRoIG1lbnRpb25lZCBzaWRlIGVmZmVjdHMuDQoNCklzIHRoaXMgaWRlbnRp Y2FsIGhhcmR3YXJlPyANCg0KQ2hlZXJzLA0KVWxyaWNoIFNww7ZybGVpbg0KLS0gDQpOb25lIGFy ZSBtb3JlIGhvcGVsZXNzbHkgZW5zbGF2ZWQgdGhhbiB0aG9zZSB3aG8gZmFsc2VseSBiZWxpZXZl IHRoZXkgYXJlIGZyZWUNCi0tIEpvaGFubiBXb2xmZ2FuZyB2b24gR29ldGhlDQo= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 09:34:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433B9106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from borjamar@sarenet.es) Received: from proxypop2.sarenet.es (proxypop2.sarenet.es [194.30.0.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE878FC27 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from borjamar@sarenet.es) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (matahari.sarenet.es [192.148.167.18]) by proxypop2.sarenet.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DCC73198 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:12:14 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: Borja Marcos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--551020454 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:12:13 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Puzzling change in performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:34:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5--551020454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, The attached graphs are from a server running FreeBSD 7.1-i386 (now) with the typical Apache2+MySQL with forums, Joomla... I just cannot explain this. Disk I/O bandwidth was suffering a lot, and after the update the disks are almost idle. Any ideas? I cannot imagine a change between versions to justify this. The latest update to 7-STABLE had been done in August. Maybe it was just degradation due to not being rebooted since August? But it's strange anyway, and I had restarted MySQL and Apache some times during this period. --Apple-Mail-5--551020454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5--551020454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5--551020454-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 09:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784A10656CC for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serguey-grigoriev@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards2.yandex.ru (forwards2.yandex.ru [213.180.200.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40868FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serguey-grigoriev@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail57.yandex.ru (webmail57.yandex.ru [77.88.61.2]) by forwards2.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id CF5D74C467E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:16:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail57.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id A5CFAFF416D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:16:12 +0300 (MSK) X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: webmail57 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233306972 Received: from [91.122.49.58] ([91.122.49.58]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:16:11 +0300 From: "S.N.Grigoriev" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <329181233306971@webmail57.yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:16:11 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:37:53 -0000 Hi list, after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become unreachable (timeouts). It is not enough to kill Xorg to restore the USB functionality. FreeBSD has to be restarted. I use FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE (amd64) compiled from fresh sources. Any tips? Regards, Serguey. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 10:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B061065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mah@jump-ing.de) Received: from mail.ud03.udmedia.de (ud03.udmedia.de [194.117.254.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2D58FC20 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mah@jump-ing.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; q=dns/txt; s= beta; bh=60pN+4oKWFvdguu82WkOqvXHA/nSFKw4r9CZNMwhmwk=; b=AWUjvGP YvkOVWTkGG72x7s+vpnT2K0f+WlJN0QISFV2zmVyNP47IULT/GtKrMhYl230fXFt E15+N+ARiTMQcEzfGcB7H7t14u9ESl7dlHRBkVVNr/kt66N08hQhXWT1+PWyAHUK pV08OuNHmNadBLsYic0NfIahlmVhltgbHTTU= Received: (qmail 18960 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2009 10:59:57 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.50?) (ud03?291p1@78.42.122.63) by mail.ud03.udmedia.de with ESMTPA; 30 Jan 2009 10:59:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <329181233306971@webmail57.yandex.ru> References: <329181233306971@webmail57.yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <985A59F2-20CC-4779-A000-018E52B5BFA9@jump-ing.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Markus Hitter Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:59:56 +0100 To: S.N.Grigoriev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:00:01 -0000 Am 30.01.2009 um 10:16 schrieb S.N.Grigoriev: > after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree > I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started > (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become > unreachable (timeouts). It is not enough to kill Xorg to restore > the USB functionality. FreeBSD has to be restarted. > I use FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE (amd64) compiled from fresh sources. > Any tips? One way is to look for patches in the PR database and simply try them, for example: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/130957 (shameless plug) This could help you and, if you find something helpful, add a chance to get a PR fixed. MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 10:50:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE33106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from BORJAMAR@SARENET.ES) Received: from proxypop2.sarenet.es (proxypop2.sarenet.es [194.30.0.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05D58FC14 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from BORJAMAR@SARENET.ES) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (matahari.sarenet.es [192.148.167.18]) by proxypop2.sarenet.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6809E731AA for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:50:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <6B254849-E2C2-4575-BCCE-60CCA60C426D@SARENET.ES> From: Borja Marcos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:50:05 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: Puzzling change in performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:08 -0000 On Jan 30, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Borja Marcos wrote: > > Hello, > > The attached graphs are from a server running FreeBSD 7.1-i386 (now) > with the typical Apache2+MySQL with forums, Joomla... I see that the attachments didn't make it. Disk I/O bandwidth was an average 40 - 60 % before the update and reboot. After the update and reboot it's now less than 10 %. Most of the I/O activity was on the /var filesystem. It houses the MySQL database and system logs, mostly. So, either: 1- there's an important improvement on file caching from 7.0-STABLE- August to 7.1-RELEASE? 2- Something was rotten since the last reboot in August 3- Something was malfunctioning in the "amr" array controller? (It's a Dell server, and it has two hard disks in mirror) Apache and MySQL had been restarted some times last week, trying to tune some parameters and it made no difference. Any ideas? It's quite weird. Same kernel configuration, same hardware... Borja. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 10:50:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E102106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from espresso2.syncrontech.com (espresso2.syncrontech.com [213.28.98.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EFA8FC1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com (ink.syncrontech.com [192.168.2.107]) by espresso2.syncrontech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0UAooC8054775; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:50:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Timo.Rikkonen@syncrontech.com) Received: from ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) by ink.sad.syncrontech.com ([192.168.2.107]) with mapi; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:50:44 +0200 From: Timo Rikkonen To: Mike Tancsa , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:50:46 +0200 Thread-Topic: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while Thread-Index: AcmCUOBHiot3iaKlRvGTvJtKu6sZigAdnsLA Message-ID: References: <200901292033.n0TKXYZp062630@lava.sentex.ca> In-Reply-To: <200901292033.n0TKXYZp062630@lava.sentex.ca> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, fi-FI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:50:52 -0000 Hi, The speed is 9600. Actually I already tried with 7.1-RELEASE, with same res= ults. I'll try the device.hints-changes, thanks. -Timo -----Original Message----- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:mike@sentex.net]=20 Sent: 29. tammikuuta 2009 22:34 To: Timo Rikkonen; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while At 08:00 AM 1/26/2009, Timo Rikkonen wrote: >Hi, > >We are using "VScom PCI-200L" and "Moxa Technologies, C168H/PCI"=20 >-cards for serial ports. After installing 7.0 the ports or the=20 >connection to the port hang after a while. A "while" could be=20 >half-a-day or 10 minutes. >There is no error message to be seen anywhere. > >Not all ports hang at the same time, it could be just one or two of=20 >them. Earlier versions (6.2-RELEASE) work just fine. >The ports have different devicenames after 7.0, in 6.2 they were=20 >/dev/cuad4-7, now they are /dev/cuau0-3 (uart?) Is the application fairly low speed (e.g. 9600bps or slower) ? If=20 so, try with 7.1R, not 7 and add hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x100" hint.uart.1.flags=3D"0x100" to /boot/device.hints http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D121421 has details ---Mike=20 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 11:58:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550B1106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244E28FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E942648BA; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:58:29 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: dWuadxj9eOv/89Wizscd+EwUDvComJSDDO+/ZQaxxZs9 1233316709 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2458A2780E; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:58:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4982EB63.50703@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:58:27 +0000 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris H References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> In-Reply-To: <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:58:30 -0000 Chris H wrote: > ... >> >> I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco 827 >> a while back. > > That's good news. I'll have to see if I can get more info on that. > I just purchased a "lot" of cisco *DSL/routers on ebay, in an effort > to push this project forward (I can experiment on these with less > concern). IMHO pfSense beats the pants off OpenWRT from a user/deployment point of view, and often that is ultimately what counts. Thing is, it's "only" for x86-based PCs. I had the foresight to purchase some relatively quiet 1U boxes, but they're still too noisy to have in a room where people sleep live or socialise -- they belong to the computer nook at the front of the apartment (I have a very odd C-shaped apartment). I believe something that could really make pfSense fly, would be a viable port to mass-market, low-power consumer hardware. Then again, old Ciscos "sort of" fit the bill. Repurposing old vendor hardware is just as subject to engineering process as anything else, in some cases, the varying Bill-of-Materials may make the economic cost too high to do things on a mass scale. If people would be reasonably expected to use such a system, they should not have to understand the mechanisms, in great detail, of how firmware is loaded onto a device. This is one of the main stumbling blocks behind mass uptake -- we can't just say "fire up this tool and click this 1 button" to extend/build new network infrastructure. Given the current economic and ecological situation, though, devising systems which allow people to do this might be something worth investigating, and funding to that effect may be available "out there". cheers BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 12:51:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ABD1065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058D78FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UCpZDT027709; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0UCpYKh067104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200901301251.n0UCpYKh067104@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:36 -0500 To: Timo Rikkonen , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: References: <200901292033.n0TKXYZp062630@lava.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Subject: RE: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:51:38 -0000 At 05:50 AM 1/30/2009, Timo Rikkonen wrote: >Hi, > >The speed is 9600. Actually I already tried with 7.1-RELEASE, with >same results. >I'll try the device.hints-changes, thanks. Not sure if the code is in 7.0, so make sure you try it with 7.1-RELEASE ---Mike >-Timo > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:mike@sentex.net] >Sent: 29. tammikuuta 2009 22:34 >To: Timo Rikkonen; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: /dev/cuau* ports hang after a while > >At 08:00 AM 1/26/2009, Timo Rikkonen wrote: > >Hi, > > > >We are using "VScom PCI-200L" and "Moxa Technologies, C168H/PCI" > >-cards for serial ports. After installing 7.0 the ports or the > >connection to the port hang after a while. A "while" could be > >half-a-day or 10 minutes. > >There is no error message to be seen anywhere. > > > >Not all ports hang at the same time, it could be just one or two of > >them. Earlier versions (6.2-RELEASE) work just fine. > >The ports have different devicenames after 7.0, in 6.2 they were > >/dev/cuad4-7, now they are /dev/cuau0-3 (uart?) > > >Is the application fairly low speed (e.g. 9600bps or slower) ? If >so, try with 7.1R, not 7 and add > >hint.uart.0.flags="0x100" >hint.uart.1.flags="0x100" > >to /boot/device.hints > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121421 > >has details > > ---Mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 12:52:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0C810656C4 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serguey-grigoriev@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83FA8FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serguey-grigoriev@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail36.yandex.ru (webmail36.yandex.ru [77.88.60.15]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4FCBF4C52F4; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:52:29 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail36.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 24EBB4F074D; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:52:29 +0300 (MSK) X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: webmail36 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233319949 Received: from [91.122.49.58] ([91.122.49.58]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:52:28 +0300 From: "S.N.Grigoriev" To: "Markus Hitter" In-Reply-To: <985A59F2-20CC-4779-A000-018E52B5BFA9@jump-ing.de> References: <329181233306971@webmail57.yandex.ru> <985A59F2-20CC-4779-A000-018E52B5BFA9@jump-ing.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <101781233319948@webmail36.yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:52:28 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:31 -0000 30.01.09, 12:59, "Markus Hitter" : > Am 30.01.2009 um 10:16 schrieb S.N.Grigoriev: > > after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree > > I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started > > (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become > > unreachable (timeouts). It is not enough to kill Xorg to restore > > the USB functionality. FreeBSD has to be restarted. > > I use FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE (amd64) compiled from fresh sources. > > Any tips? > One way is to look for patches in the PR database and simply try > them, for example: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/130957 (shameless > plug) > This could help you and, if you find something helpful, add a chance > to get a PR fixed. Markus, I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still unreachable with X. Regards, Serguey. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 13:37:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455691065674 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keneasson@zoho.com) Received: from svwall.zoho.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBAD8FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keneasson@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:user-agent; b=bU0LlwGC2GpP1BO3QV6AFogHXjJhwUlpdCNUIljrooyV/Hw45oWHKwW//D41haxjj5azWhYuCTLq 1m7aEdEtV4F699BDDV5nhBskjRGgIuGRSDEDh0vDhl6KZ2KMYWKc Received: from 172.31.253.121 (172.31.253.121 [172.31.253.121]) by svwall.zoho.com with SMTP id 1233309793034963.4715503614397; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:03:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11f26fdf8f4.-2157351033577064444.414601923260268209@zoho.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:03:12 +0600 From: keneasson To: rnoland@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1233266289.66977.11.camel@squirrel.corp.cox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <01CB956E-94C0-4819-8362-D24347405C67@airwired.net> <49822379.3010203@earthlink.net> <1233266289.66977.11.camel@squirrel.corp.cox.com> X-Priority: 3 (Medium) User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Status: RO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: sclark46@earthlink.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, danallen46@airwired.net, alex-goncharov@comcast.net, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, bms@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:37:57 -0000 I have to agree with you that this latest update was most problematic for m= e. I keep my system very up-to-date, usually every 3-5 days. FreeBSD 7.1 RE= LENG (Which is stable at the moment) on Toshiba X200-AX1 Two major problems both noted in UPDATING but still cause of a huge number = of problems were my xorg conf file settings (had to make several changes to= x11 config to get X to start and mouse to move besides the ones noted in U= PDATNG), my start is still riddled with errors. One problem is that i'm usi= ng amd64 but have an nVidia card. My laptop has dual cards for driving the = single screen, and this no longer works - now card(0) is driving both sides= of the screen, and card(1) is unloaded. There are a number of other proble= ms related to video that i'm not very worried about, i only have an interes= t in one game - and i play it about once every 6 months at most. (flightgea= r) bigger problem with libxcb,=20 first - i don't have portsupdate installed, only portmaster.=20 now - the fist confession is that i had no idea what libxcb is, or why i mi= ght need it, so i just ignored that bit of UPDATING. After portmaster -a fa= iled with a reference to libxcb and i rebuilt 5 or 6 ports manually to get = past that, then rescanned UPDATING for libscb, i tried: portmaster -rf libxcb that ran overnight, and didn't do a single scrap of good. finally - i installed and ran=20 libchk -V /list of folders/ (most problems identified in /usr/local ) recommend piping that into a log so you can search throught it for libxcb d= ependent ports - my output is huge, and i had to keep pausing and writing d= own ports as fast as my little fingers could move. on a lof of folders, to discover that a whole list of programs were all lin= ked to libxcb.so.1 including metacity, nautilus, cups, policykit, etc. that= didn't get updated by -rf libxcb, i started with metacity; portmaster metacity=20 portmaster cups* portmaster policykit etc... and worked throgh the list of about 25 ports. startx finally works but i still had no windows manager (metacity) which i = had to rebuild again to make it finally work. Now i have a working system, = but there is still no Gnome-splash-screen. so far everything else is workin= g, but it's taken me a good 24 hours to make my X system usable. ken. ---- On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 Robert Noland wrote ----=20 > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 16:45 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote:=20 > > Dan Allen wrote:=20 > > > Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me.=20 > > > =20 > > > I have run=20 > > > =20 > > > portupgrade -rf libxcb=20 > > > =20 > > =20 > > I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa=20 > > This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system.=20 > > I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to=20 > > bring X back up.=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > portmanager -u -p -l -y=20 > =20 > worked beautifully to upgrade gnome and X. I did pkg_delete -f gtkmm=20 > for gnome, but otherwise...=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Actually, I didn't have anything to do with writing it, I just keep it= =20 > working since it DTRT...=20 > =20 > robert.=20 > =20 > > This should have compiled and built everything that was affected=20 > > by the new X stuff - but it obviously didn't.=20 > > =20 > > > and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the = =20 > > > standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place.=20 > > > =20 > > > After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboa= rd =20 > > > and mouse work, and so does firefox and my other apps.=20 > > > =20 > > > Thanks to everyone else for emailing me with ideas and suggestions!= =20 > > > =20 > > > Dan=20 > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > _______________________________________________=20 > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable=20 > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org"=20 > > > =20 > > =20 > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:04:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B323C1065697; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687E98FC26; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0UF41H0010429; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0UF40RC010428; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:59 -0800 Message-ID: <20090130070359.riaj3vq4aock4k0s@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:59 -0800 From: Chris H To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> <4982EB63.50703@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4982EB63.50703@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:04:10 -0000 Hello Bruce, and thank you for your reply. Quoting "Bruce M. Simpson" : > Chris H wrote: >> ... >>> >>> I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco >>> 827 a while back. >> >> That's good news. I'll have to see if I can get more info on that. >> I just purchased a "lot" of cisco *DSL/routers on ebay, in an effort >> to push this project forward (I can experiment on these with less concern). > > IMHO pfSense beats the pants off OpenWRT from a user/deployment point > of view, and often that is ultimately what counts. I guess I'd have to agree, except if it weren't for the fact I always have a zillion things going simultaneously, I wouldn't even know what X was - I can't get enough VC's (virtual consoles), so I'm forced to use X. But, of course for most "end users" /convenience/ is everything, and most don't want to any more that how to turn it on. :) > > Thing is, it's "only" for x86-based PCs. I had the foresight to > purchase some relatively quiet 1U boxes, but they're still too noisy > to have in a room where people sleep live or socialise -- they belong > to the computer nook at the front of the apartment (I have a very odd > C-shaped apartment). Yes, the (older) cisco's CPU's were MIPS - aka - Motorola, and ran AUX. I've got the latest version of AUX, which is a newer version than they ran. In fact, it wouldn't be a bit surprised if I could load AIX on it. > > I believe something that could really make pfSense fly, would be a > viable port to mass-market, low-power consumer hardware. Then again, > old Ciscos "sort of" fit the bill. Funny you bring that up. I was thinking the very same. As a matter of fact I have been contemplating whipping something up myself, and doing just that. While psSense initially seems appealing. The more I look into it, the more I find it's laking - where a simple roll-out is concerned. There isn't anything in the way of documentation. What's there is /horribly/ unorganized. It's scattered all over the place. What's more, the front page of the wiki suggests that reading the m0n0wall documentation would probabl;y be a better choice. Make no mistake, I know how daunting and hectic an opensource project can be, and am grateful to /anyone/ whom is willing to share the fruits of their labor at no cost. But I think I could do better, that's all. > > Repurposing old vendor hardware is just as subject to engineering > process as anything else, in some cases, the varying > Bill-of-Materials may make the economic cost too high to do things on > a mass scale. I think I have a solution for that. I'll elaborate further when I can confirm that. > > If people would be reasonably expected to use such a system, they > should not have to understand the mechanisms, in great detail, of how > firmware is loaded onto a device. This is one of the main stumbling > blocks behind mass uptake -- we can't just say "fire up this tool and > click this 1 button" to extend/build new network infrastructure. > > Given the current economic and ecological situation, though, > devising systems which allow people to do this might be something > worth investigating, and funding to that effect may be available "out > there". I /quite/ agree, and intend to persue just that. I've already commissioned the artwork - and it looks GREAT. :) I'll elaborate further as things firm up. Thanks again Bruce, for taking the time to respond. --Chris > > cheers > BMS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:16:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9E310656C3 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from ns.mahan.org (ns.mahan.org [67.116.10.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870CD8FC1C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from widowmaker.local (crowTrobot [67.116.10.140]) by ns.mahan.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0UHHrRc054640 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Message-ID: <49833266.4020602@mahan.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:01:26 -0800 From: Patrick Mahan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> <4982EB63.50703@FreeBSD.org> <20090130070359.riaj3vq4aock4k0s@webmail.1command.com> In-Reply-To: <20090130070359.riaj3vq4aock4k0s@webmail.1command.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:16:07 -0000 Chris H presented these words - circa 1/30/09 7:03 AM-> > Hello Bruce, and thank you for your reply. > > Quoting "Bruce M. Simpson" : > >> Chris H wrote: >>> ... >>>> >>>> I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco >>>> 827 a while back. >>> >>> That's good news. I'll have to see if I can get more info on that. >>> I just purchased a "lot" of cisco *DSL/routers on ebay, in an effort >>> to push this project forward (I can experiment on these with less >>> concern). >> >> IMHO pfSense beats the pants off OpenWRT from a user/deployment point >> of view, and often that is ultimately what counts. > > I guess I'd have to agree, except if it weren't for the fact I always > have a zillion things going simultaneously, I wouldn't even know what > X was - I can't get enough VC's (virtual consoles), so I'm forced to > use X. But, of course for most "end users" /convenience/ is everything, > and most don't want to any more that how to turn it on. :) > >> >> Thing is, it's "only" for x86-based PCs. I had the foresight to >> purchase some relatively quiet 1U boxes, but they're still too noisy >> to have in a room where people sleep live or socialise -- they belong >> to the computer nook at the front of the apartment (I have a very odd >> C-shaped apartment). > > Yes, the (older) cisco's CPU's were MIPS - aka - Motorola, and ran AUX. > I've got the latest version of AUX, which is a newer version than they > ran. In fact, it wouldn't be a bit surprised if I could load AIX on it. > Yes, most of the core CPU's used by Cisco were MIPS, however, they were not made by Motorola and didn't run AUX (if by AUX you mean Apples Unix OS). Instead they ran Cisco's own IOS kernel/software. Patrick Mahan >> >> I believe something that could really make pfSense fly, would be a >> viable port to mass-market, low-power consumer hardware. Then again, >> old Ciscos "sort of" fit the bill. > > Funny you bring that up. I was thinking the very same. As a matter of > fact I have been contemplating whipping something up myself, and doing > just that. While psSense initially seems appealing. The more I look into > it, the more I find it's laking - where a simple roll-out is concerned. > There isn't anything in the way of documentation. What's there is > /horribly/ > unorganized. It's scattered all over the place. What's more, the front > page of the wiki suggests that reading the m0n0wall documentation would > probabl;y be a better choice. Make no mistake, I know how daunting and > hectic an opensource project can be, and am grateful to /anyone/ whom is > willing to share the fruits of their labor at no cost. But I think I > could do better, that's all. > >> >> Repurposing old vendor hardware is just as subject to engineering >> process as anything else, in some cases, the varying Bill-of-Materials >> may make the economic cost too high to do things on a mass scale. > > I think I have a solution for that. I'll elaborate further when I can > confirm that. > >> >> If people would be reasonably expected to use such a system, they >> should not have to understand the mechanisms, in great detail, of how >> firmware is loaded onto a device. This is one of the main stumbling >> blocks behind mass uptake -- we can't just say "fire up this tool and >> click this 1 button" to extend/build new network infrastructure. >> >> Given the current economic and ecological situation, though, >> devising systems which allow people to do this might be something >> worth investigating, and funding to that effect may be available "out >> there". > > I /quite/ agree, and intend to persue just that. I've already > commissioned the artwork - and it looks GREAT. :) > > I'll elaborate further as things firm up. > > Thanks again Bruce, for taking the time to respond. > > --Chris > >> >> cheers >> BMS >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:53:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDD8106566C; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2128FC12; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0UJrC8X027415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:13 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UJrBpS079121; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0UJrBob079120; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Robert Noland Message-ID: <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:53:16 -0000 --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes (see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using FreeBSD as a desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant POLA violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is not acceptable. On 2009-Jan-29 08:40:11 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: >I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to >freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues >reported. I didn't recall seeing any reference to patches so I went looking. All I could find is a couple of references to a patchset existing buried inside threads discussing specific problems with X. The majority of people who didn't have those specific problems probably skipped the thread and never saw that a patchset was available. When the X.org 7.0 upgrade was planned, a heads-up went out on a number of mailing lists, together with a pointer to the patchset and upgrade instructions and the upgrade did not proceed until both a reasonable number of people reported success and reported problems had been ironed out. Given the ongoing problems with code provided by X.org, I suggest that this approach needs to be followed for every future release of X.org until (if) the X.org Project demonstrates that they can provide release-quality code. > This update also brings in support for a >lot of people who are running newer hardware. And breaks support for lots of people who used to have functional X servers. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmDWqcACgkQ/opHv/APuIdisQCgogeNZ8aXPDJ3gcZ/23Gyp/CV bmsAn0efyI9cS6TWGFkofoYh6oFmtc5l =i2p0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:25:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352E0106566B; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.terabit.net.ua (mail.terabit.net.ua [195.137.202.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C649F8FC17; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from skuns.zoral.com.ua ([91.193.166.194] helo=mail.zoral.com.ua) by mail.terabit.net.ua with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSzvP-0003F2-JQ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:15 +0200 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0UKPAHP053428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UKP9pJ016688; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0UKP9oY016686; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:09 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20090130202509.GA52415@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Scanned: mail.terabit.net.ua 1LSzvP-0003F2-JQ 205bc3536feca6c240fda82a4ed269a9 X-Terabit: YES Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Robert Noland Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:25:18 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 06:53:11AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org > upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this > suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes > (see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using > FreeBSD as a desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant > POLA violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is > not acceptable. >=20 > On 2009-Jan-29 08:40:11 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > >I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to > >freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > >reported. >=20 > I didn't recall seeing any reference to patches so I went looking. > All I could find is a couple of references to a patchset existing > buried inside threads discussing specific problems with X. The > majority of people who didn't have those specific problems probably > skipped the thread and never saw that a patchset was available. >=20 > When the X.org 7.0 upgrade was planned, a heads-up went out on a > number of mailing lists, together with a pointer to the patchset and > upgrade instructions and the upgrade did not proceed until both a > reasonable number of people reported success and reported problems had > been ironed out. Given the ongoing problems with code provided by > X.org, I suggest that this approach needs to be followed for every > future release of X.org until (if) the X.org Project demonstrates that > they can provide release-quality code. >=20 > > This update also brings in support for a > >lot of people who are running newer hardware. >=20 > And breaks support for lots of people who used to have functional > X servers. Just to give a different view on *this* update. I have exactly opposing experience. Both my workstations (job/home) have different kinds of Radeons, during the time from R200 to R600. X server 1.4.x was a complete disaster; I had to turn off dri to get rid of the constant hangs caused by X server looping somewhere in kernel. Robert' attempts to diagnose the cause of the issue, including consultation with upstream developers resulted in nothing. Moreover, at work I have two panels connected to Radeon; xrandr became absolutely impossible to configure without DRI. In contrast, 1.5.3 upgraded and I observed two issues, one was the Xorg sleeping in "ttyin", that was promptly fixed. Second was actually pretty good documented in updating, and it was my fault to not follow advise about recompiling libxcb dependencies. The libxcb issue is easily diagnosted by any user, BTW, using ldd XXX | grep compat. So far 1.5.3 + updated DRM works good on all my Radeons. And, I did not have a problem with i945GM on 1.4.2 and 1.5.3. --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmDYiUACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4g7ZgCePYqCYeywSsyQEBKG67DtbWiV IvgAoI3wV0QCkRFjew4aRmIWje0a2Mqw =lvYy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 21:12:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BF31065697 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288248FC24 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9nGb1b0091GhbT855xCd8C; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:37 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9xCb1b01B0FJTGg3TxCcbj; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:37 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LT0fC-0001ui-EP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:12:34 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: Peter Jeremy In-reply-to: <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> (message from Peter Jeremy on Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:12:34 -0500 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, rnoland@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:38 -0000 ,--- You/Peter (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100) ----* | X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using FreeBSD as a | desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant POLA | violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is not | acceptable. Fully agree with this. | I suggest that this approach needs to be followed for every future | release of X.org until (if) the X.org Project demonstrates that they | can provide release-quality code. And agree with this, as far as the future is concerned -- but this leaves out the issue of what is going to be done for people whose systems became practically incapacitated in a matter of one day. Screw us? I realize that personally I haven't contributed much (hey, a simple port's maintainer!) to FreeBSD, so a disregard to my situation may be well deserved. But "you" (whoever this "you" is: the "ports manager", the X port maintainers) have to be aware that leaving the things in the state they are now, you are screwing somebody. | > This update also brings in support for a lot of people who are | >running newer hardware. | | And breaks support for lots of people who used to have functional X | servers. Just so. ,--- Kostik Belousov (Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:25:09 +0200) ----* | Just to give a different view on *this* update. I have exactly opposing | experience. | | So far 1.5.3 + updated DRM works good on all my Radeons. | And, I did not have a problem with i945GM on 1.4.2 and 1.5.3. `----------------------------------------------------------* Well, glad for you -- meanwhile I will be reverting my desktop to the old X this weekend: the garbage on the screen is ugly, but the fact that in the new X "opera" can grab a pointer for about a minute makes the combined use of the browser and xterms/Emacses plain intolerable. After I do this, as I did with my laptop already, I think I am completely cut off from the ports automated upgrade cycle. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 22:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160A71065677 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84418FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KEB00LQO1F4PX30@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.110]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0KEB00GHX1F38Y20@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:39 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20090130230639.e09c4682.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:06:42 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:34 -0800 Chris H wrote: > a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over > a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the > router/modem). So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard > to build a box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't On topic: shouldn't this discussion be on another mailing list? For eaxmple -questions or -net, or even -arch? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 22:11:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BCB10656C7 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109F78FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KEB00LUD1MRPX30@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.110]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0KEB00EYB1MQMB40@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:14 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20090130231114.1a82d0bc.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <6B254849-E2C2-4575-BCCE-60CCA60C426D@SARENET.ES> References: <6B254849-E2C2-4575-BCCE-60CCA60C426D@SARENET.ES> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Puzzling change in performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:11:16 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:50:05 +0100 Borja Marcos wrote: > I see that the attachments didn't make it. Well, it would be quite easy for you to just put them on the web somewhere and then link to them, perhaps? > 1- there's an important improvement on file caching from 7.0-STABLE- > August to 7.1-RELEASE? Have you checked the release notes for 7.1? Perhaps they contain clues that explain the performace improvements? HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 00:08:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C4010656E4; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f16.google.com (mail-bw0-f16.google.com [209.85.218.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBA38FC18; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent@servuhome.net) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so139942bwz.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.232.16 with SMTP id e16mr621092bkh.77.1233360480034; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129230247.GF4375@elvis.mu.org> References: <20090129230247.GF4375@elvis.mu.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:07:59 -0800 Message-ID: From: Brent Jones To: Alfred Perlstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS writes calling FSYNC and ASYNC not consistent X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:08:03 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Apologies for being terse, in a hurry here. > > 1) -o async doesn't work with NFS, don't use that. > 2) how big are the text versus binary files? I tested with a 6MB text file, and a 2GB binary file. Text file would go ~1MB/sec, issuing FSYNCs for every block write size (32KB default) One thing I found that another FreeBSD user discovered exactly explains my situation: In bin/cp/utils.c (source) there is a check, if the file is less than 8MB or so, it uses mmap, if the file is larger, it will use write() I modified the source and recompiled to -never- use mmap, only to use write(), and my performance increased about 100 fold (from 1MB/sec over NFS, to over 100MB/sec). Changed line 143: original: fs->st_size <= 8 * 1048576) { New: fs->st_size <= 8 * 8) { It will use mmap still if the file is larger than 64bytes (if it uses bytes there, pretty sure it does). But is much faster for files ~1KB to 8MB now. Regards > 3) how are you copying them over nfs? > > I suspect, (could be wrong of course) that the ascii files > are a lot smaller than the binary files, so what's happening > is that for binary files, the client is issuing write-behind > async, however for ascii files its issuing the writes at > close time which will force the sync flag. > > -Alfred > -- Brent Jones brent@servuhome.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 00:55:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46A5106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF428FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n0V0stKe014219; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n0V0st3D014218; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:54:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. 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Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / UNIX Cc: Patrick Mahan Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:55:04 -0000 Hello Patrick, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Patrick Mahan : > > > Chris H presented these words - circa 1/30/09 7:03 AM-> >> Hello Bruce, and thank you for your reply. >> >> Quoting "Bruce M. Simpson" : >> >>> Chris H wrote: >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> I know Peter Grehan was looking at getting FreeBSD onto the Cisco >>>>> 827 a while back. >>>> >>>> That's good news. I'll have to see if I can get more info on that. >>>> I just purchased a "lot" of cisco *DSL/routers on ebay, in an effort >>>> to push this project forward (I can experiment on these with less >>>> concern). >>> >>> IMHO pfSense beats the pants off OpenWRT from a user/deployment >>> point of view, and often that is ultimately what counts. >> >> I guess I'd have to agree, except if it weren't for the fact I always >> have a zillion things going simultaneously, I wouldn't even know what >> X was - I can't get enough VC's (virtual consoles), so I'm forced to >> use X. But, of course for most "end users" /convenience/ is everything, >> and most don't want to any more that how to turn it on. :) >> >>> >>> Thing is, it's "only" for x86-based PCs. I had the foresight to >>> purchase some relatively quiet 1U boxes, but they're still too >>> noisy to have in a room where people sleep live or socialise -- >>> they belong to the computer nook at the front of the apartment (I >>> have a very odd C-shaped apartment). >> >> Yes, the (older) cisco's CPU's were MIPS - aka - Motorola, and ran AUX. >> I've got the latest version of AUX, which is a newer version than they >> ran. In fact, it wouldn't be a bit surprised if I could load AIX on it. >> > > Yes, most of the core CPU's used by Cisco were MIPS, however, they were > not made by Motorola Please take no offense. But as I look inside, the CPU does, in fact say Motorola. The documentation for it also confirms that most of (if not all) of the 800 series also used the Motorola RISC. > and didn't run AUX (if by AUX you mean Apples Unix > OS). I probably stand corrected on this. :) But I'll bet - given the CPU, it wouldn't be much of a streatch to run either AUX, or AIX on it. Thanks again for your response. --Chris > Instead they ran Cisco's own IOS kernel/software. > > Patrick Mahan > >>> >>> I believe something that could really make pfSense fly, would be >>> a viable port to mass-market, low-power consumer hardware. Then >>> again, old Ciscos "sort of" fit the bill. >> >> Funny you bring that up. I was thinking the very same. As a matter of >> fact I have been contemplating whipping something up myself, and doing >> just that. While psSense initially seems appealing. The more I look into >> it, the more I find it's laking - where a simple roll-out is concerned. >> There isn't anything in the way of documentation. What's there is /horribly/ >> unorganized. It's scattered all over the place. What's more, the front >> page of the wiki suggests that reading the m0n0wall documentation would >> probabl;y be a better choice. Make no mistake, I know how daunting and >> hectic an opensource project can be, and am grateful to /anyone/ whom is >> willing to share the fruits of their labor at no cost. But I think I >> could do better, that's all. >> >>> >>> Repurposing old vendor hardware is just as subject to >>> engineering process as anything else, in some cases, the varying >>> Bill-of-Materials may make the economic cost too high to do things >>> on a mass scale. >> >> I think I have a solution for that. I'll elaborate further when I can >> confirm that. >> >>> >>> If people would be reasonably expected to use such a system, >>> they should not have to understand the mechanisms, in great detail, >>> of how firmware is loaded onto a device. This is one of the main >>> stumbling blocks behind mass uptake -- we can't just say "fire up >>> this tool and click this 1 button" to extend/build new network >>> infrastructure. >>> >>> Given the current economic and ecological situation, though, >>> devising systems which allow people to do this might be something >>> worth investigating, and funding to that effect may be available >>> "out there". >> >> I /quite/ agree, and intend to persue just that. I've already >> commissioned the artwork - and it looks GREAT. :) >> >> I'll elaborate further as things firm up. >> >> Thanks again Bruce, for taking the time to respond. >> >> --Chris >> >>> >>> cheers >>> BMS >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 01:04:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E9A1065708 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99DE8FC2E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ED5266EE5; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:04:48 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: j7KPwt8mhHwmeg5HyPB/w2Ds6PQFQQN1bhyn4S/Xsm07 1233363888 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E40535CA0; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:04:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4983A3AE.90804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:04:46 +0000 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "S.N.Grigoriev" References: <329181233306971@webmail57.yandex.ru> <985A59F2-20CC-4779-A000-018E52B5BFA9@jump-ing.de> <101781233319948@webmail36.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <101781233319948@webmail36.yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Markus Hitter , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:04:49 -0000 S.N.Grigoriev wrote: > I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from > kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still > unreachable with X. Just following up to confirm that you are seeing exactly the same symptoms with USB and Xorg 7.4 as I see on my amd64 desktop running 7-STABLE from 00:00 UTC on this Wednesday. thanks, BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 02:43:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EED106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from magnum.bit0.com (magnum.bit0.com [207.246.88.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E898FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by magnum.bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29691164D8C; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:28:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bit0.com Received: from magnum.bit0.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (magnum.int.bit0.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7KlApvIItPaj; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from beast.int.bit0.com (beast.int.bit0.com [172.27.0.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by magnum.bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:28:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:28:21 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Andrews X-X-Sender: mandrews@beast.int.bit0.com To: Chris H In-Reply-To: <20090130165453.zny1a1ctq8sk0kk0@webmail.1command.com> Message-ID: References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> <0bca01c98202$a6124350$f236c9f0$@co.uk> <20090129051522.a92df0myf44gsko4@webmail.1command.com> <62b856460901290538x5d857f08ka3b2ffb5a7aa8e7f@mail.gmail.com> <20090129060243.adauuua9eokcsos8@webmail.1command.com> <00fe01c98247$d6872600$83957200$@com> <49822E90.1010306@FreeBSD.org> <20090129181838.l9cr09o0kk400gwc@webmail.1command.com> <4982EB63.50703@FreeBSD.org> <20090130070359.riaj3vq4aock4k0s@webmail.1command.com> <49833266.4020602@mahan.org> <20090130165453.zny1a1ctq8sk0kk0@webmail.1command.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Patrick Mahan Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:43:47 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Chris H wrote: > Please take no offense. But as I look inside, the CPU does, in fact > say Motorola. The documentation for it also confirms that most of > (if not all) of the 800 series also used the Motorola RISC. Cisco's used several CPU architectures in their IOS routers over the years. The very very earliest routers used Motorola m68K processors. Later high-end routers used MIPS processors from various vendors (like Broadcom and IDT, but never Motorola). Most of their models from the last decade, including the entire 800 series, are Motorola/Freescale PowerPC based. You can see that by running "show version" at the Cisco's command prompt; it'll probably say it's got a MPC85x or MPC86x PowerQUICC in it. What are you trying to do that the Cisco can't do, anyway? (reply off-list to that maybe) It might just be a matter of getting a different feature set on the thing... IOS can do a LOT of really weird stuff. :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 05:04:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95E8106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3708FC19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW08.09/8.14.3+UW09.01) with ESMTP id n0V544YC023304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:04:04 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.3] (adsl-99-146-99-45.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [99.146.99.45]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW08.09/8.14.3+UW09.01) with ESMTP id n0V543IC001237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:04:04 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper To: Chris H In-Reply-To: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <20090129015034.7dxisep21w04gksg@webmail.1command.com> Message-Id: <75C8F622-1EC7-4CD2-972E-DB2233BA7BDC@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:09:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-PMX-Version: 5.5.0.356843, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.1.350677, Antispam-Data: 2009.1.31.44928 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='FORGED_FROM_GMAIL 0.1, BODY_SIZE_1400_1499 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL_FROM 0, __FROM_GMAIL 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __HAS_X_PRIORITY 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace Cisco IOS/CBOS with freebsd - possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:04:17 -0000 On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:50 AM, Chris H wrote: > Greetings, > I'm RP for a fairly large chunk of IP real estate. I carved out > a /27 segment for my home network. Which is currently running over > a cisco 837 GW (adsl/router). I'm not really keen on it (the router/ > modem). > So I thought to myself that it couldn't be /that/ hard to build a > box with FBSD that could replace it - am I crazy? Wouldn't it > be possible to upload a minimal build of FBSD to the modem, not unlike > one would tftp a new version of cisco's IOS, or CBOS? I searched > the projects area to see if anyone had tried it. But the only thing > that came anywhere near was netperf. But the only similarity is that > it > is network related. Anyway, this seems quite feasable as far as I can > tell. So I thought I'd ask in hopes someone might enlighten me > further. > Maybe someones already tried it? > > Thank you for all your time and consideration in this matter. > > --Chris Good luck on that. Probably not to be honest because Cisco does a great deal of corporate IP protection on their images, etc. I know because I work for Cisco :). All I can really say (based on my little knowledge) is that it's no doubt a PPC based embedded processor, so if you need to look further, I'd first explore and PPC ports to that specific chipset, and definitely make sure to check with the NetBSD folks and see if anyone has ported to that platform. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 06:48:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197BB106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34358FC17 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 90840 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 06:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (spork@96.57.144.66) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 06:48:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:48:46 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@toasty.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Gary Palmer In-Reply-To: <20090130050451.GF81380@in-addr.com> Message-ID: References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> <20090130050451.GF81380@in-addr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Richard Tector Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:48:48 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:43:11PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > > [ snip ] > >> Any idea what happened to the sysctl? Is there some other method to >> verify the loader tunable took (other than testing the throughput)? > > Boot with -v. If the loader tunable took effect, you should see > "Enabling SATA WC on phy " instead of "Disabling SATA ..." Cool, it works then. Why was the info removed from the sysctl mib? mpt0: Enabling SATA WC on phy 0 mpt0: Enabling SATA WC on phy 1 Bonnie++ is showing me about 24MB/s writes and 70MB/s reads. Is any of this verbose stuff problematic? mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0xa (ACK not required). mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0xb (ACK not required). And is any of this info found at boot-time accessible while the system is running? mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Settings ( Hot-Plug-Spares High-Priority-ReSync ) mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Using Spare Pool: 0 mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): 2 Members: (mpt0:1:32:0): Primary Online (mpt0:1:1:0): Secondary Online mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): RAID-1 - Optimal mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Status ( Enabled ) (mpt0:vol0:1): Physical (mpt0:0:1:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:0:0) (mpt0:vol0:1): Online (mpt0:vol0:0): Physical (mpt0:0:32:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:1:0) (mpt0:vol0:0): Online Thanks, Charles ps - would it kill Dell to make a damn ISO of a bootable media for RAID controller firmware upgrades??? I don't even own anything with a floppy drive anymore. > Regards, > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 08:57:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C065106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E668FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0V8lJ0K037060 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:47:19 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:47:19 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:47:19 +0300 (MSK) Cc: Subject: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:57:35 -0000 Colleagues, yes, I'm the next person to report Xorg upgrade problems ;) After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except one thing: on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this console is not responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text console, log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. Any hints? Thank you in advance. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 09:21:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2C1065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterich.joh@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f10.google.com (mail-fx0-f10.google.com [209.85.220.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BBD8FC1A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterich.joh@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so385714fxm.19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:21:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fPr/yrOiI19NEpDfJCSk7DbOIf8QPnD2THtsMGUVeCo=; b=HkArpK2YIEHxIpzbkYSDYt20iwmdIstJpsMevazoLeW19XdXLKTPWqhXBZIJx4slHf 3pmngvtgA1vNSsg8UMUtbFjJ9kk/fjhf9tg7KdvBnlcR7aLI9HJS0Vc23AhPqQGf7ted 7C0RZZr2e/G+7l0BbUV3jFcsqkv/qi6HSI7co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xozzpNiJiHtm0NiBQfA3Ys9buwpdBjqH6DiNu+dtE6iyf2cqdKghNxrbxYzwCmuzAc xLZr4Qhw7hUSmsYyGm9bnADymlaPnWNLUMABjiZrncR7UrqE/Rd9G69eOYuNJytX130e C/cygSksOtJX+xGDyb2klQ4HYDkrignSGZ1VA= Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr956466mur.87.1233393702191; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.102? (91-65-53-241-dynip.superkabel.de [91.65.53.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 25sm1127439mul.8.2009.01.31.01.21.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:21:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49841824.3070302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:21:40 +0100 From: Johannes Dieterich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Morozovsky , stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:21:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dmitry! Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: | Colleagues, | | yes, I'm the next person to report Xorg upgrade problems ;) | | After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except one thing: | | on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this console is not | responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text console, | log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. | | Any hints? Thank you in advance. Just an idea: I saw excactly this behaviour with my keyboard and mouse (both USB, is this the case for you?) Setting Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in xorg.conf as described in UPDATING solved it for me (despite that it should not be needed anymore at all and especially not for keyboards.. :-) ) Hope it helps, Johannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJhBgjAAoJEAtIjACLBioQ6hoP/2QiRi+43xI70pFSuq8FOzAr z+M84mdyM+04kEMtHVxTlRutSWS8aKRkfInl1B3++7qfxobyav0mIhHZBlEyQbUN xFWCms9sXdE7HSDRq3RNzFgeSuKrAxbapE6y46SJ2zSmaWQsNsxiZQR4gPwH7quh VFVemKxRk0Lmhk2wk81eW+sqfuT8v/nMgly3ShtFVPSFR5THmMTNcp23HChC2vyF +0yWuGsrQkittbHtoYuNo9Va8RUlpwLM85vB2nJtIe4VFZWK0C0EJrCjfSANV+lr /7K5XAZFqJBUtPubKLvE2hU1EyrKxf0fG22FTRwPf9A/q5n2OElZaN4ATPmC6eVy q/BZZkfJE+idt+864RCaQLsyaeYXWIW9bG011xsoR5oVNenOL9L5CLM3CDvUCxz9 5ORoAH7W1yQHtjsaqRQ9QD02kS6AEqON6APs/fu6wAuVw/w+WDDCikMOOeFczVZS lQ+dx64SejRbmsqNIqEXaLJPfAeTsQutSmioXrXjJynkO60ZglTiqyUjzv8+7G/6 7QjyixcExFrd0qOae4rxTkIis/+j1fPa+ClLBmy5gFir3LNdv0PxbUAgZqRUHGnd HZiewEjc0NaeTMzX3szBpjUS1o4uRPfhXpaC6Pcr0A5wxqhinJyQD6de5ZB78pKf eSHzmF7A9Dbd3cpEDQzR =G+Mu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 09:26:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE52106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED878FC12 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0V9QSF7092399; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:28 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Johannes Dieterich In-Reply-To: <49841824.3070302@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49841824.3070302@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:29 +0300 (MSK) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:26:31 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Johannes Dieterich wrote: JD> | yes, I'm the next person to report Xorg upgrade problems ;) JD> | JD> | After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except JD> one thing: JD> | JD> | on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this JD> console is not JD> | responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text JD> console, JD> | log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. JD> | JD> | Any hints? Thank you in advance. JD> JD> Just an idea: I saw excactly this behaviour with my keyboard and mouse JD> (both USB, is this the case for you?) Setting JD> JD> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" JD> JD> in xorg.conf as described in UPDATING solved it for me (despite that it JD> should not be needed anymore at all and especially not for keyboards.. :-) ) Nope, that's not my case, as I have PS/2 input devices and do have enabled dbus/hald (I use gnome, so they were enabled anyway) -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 11:03:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CA4106567D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321698FC1E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (vpn-cl-161-43.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.161.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFEC8A000A; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:03:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:02:50 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Morozovsky References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:03:24 -0000 Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > Colleagues, > > yes, I'm the next person to report Xorg upgrade problems ;) > > After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except one thing: > > on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this console is not > responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text console, > log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. > > Any hints? Thank you in advance. > You are facing the same problem as Oliver. Your X starts before the connection between hald und dbus is established and hence X does not find hald. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 11:04:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA16106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340A18FC24 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1LTDds-000E7d-Eb; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:04 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Peter Jeremy In-reply-to: <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <20090130195311.GK1755@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Comments: In-reply-to Peter Jeremy message dated "Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:04 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Robert Noland Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:04:06 -0000 > As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org > upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this > suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes > (see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using > FreeBSD as a desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant > POLA violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is > not acceptable. > you took the words out of my mouth! Some days ago, I compiled wine from ports, among its dependencies was cups(why in the name of G_D?), and x11-xcb (which did not ring any special bells - stupidly I thought it meant some x11 cut buffer gizmo :-) Anyways, next day, I couldn't open windows (x11 not MS) from some hosts, some debuging later, it was xauth failing. Now xcb did ring bells! A year ago we found a bug in libxcb, where the treatment of xauth was broken, we sent a patch, but it is still waiting. BTW, I opend a PR, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=131120, where it's now going the way the salmon, up stream, waiting for some kind sole to apply it. > On 2009-Jan-29 08:40:11 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > >I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to > >freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > >reported. > > I didn't recall seeing any reference to patches so I went looking. > All I could find is a couple of references to a patchset existing > buried inside threads discussing specific problems with X. The > majority of people who didn't have those specific problems probably > skipped the thread and never saw that a patchset was available. > > When the X.org 7.0 upgrade was planned, a heads-up went out on a > number of mailing lists, together with a pointer to the patchset and > upgrade instructions and the upgrade did not proceed until both a > reasonable number of people reported success and reported problems had > been ironed out. Given the ongoing problems with code provided by > X.org, I suggest that this approach needs to be followed for every > future release of X.org until (if) the X.org Project demonstrates that > they can provide release-quality code. > > > This update also brings in support for a > >lot of people who are running newer hardware. > > And breaks support for lots of people who used to have functional > X servers. > merging /usr/X11R6 into /usr/local was a bad idea! cheers, danny > --=20 > Peter Jeremy > Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement > an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. > > --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkmDWqcACgkQ/opHv/APuIdisQCgogeNZ8aXPDJ3gcZ/23Gyp/CV > bmsAn0efyI9cS6TWGFkofoYh6oFmtc5l > =i2p0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --+1TulI7fc0PCHNy3-- > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 11:18:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C0D106568C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E1E8FC16 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VBHnT7082166; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:17:49 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:17:49 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> Message-ID: References: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:17:50 +0300 (MSK) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:18:22 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Dominic Fandrey wrote: DF> > After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except one thing: DF> > DF> > on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this console is not DF> > responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text console, DF> > log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. DF> > DF> > Any hints? Thank you in advance. DF> > DF> DF> You are facing the same problem as Oliver. Your X starts before the connection DF> between hald und dbus is established and hence X does not find hald. Well, but gdm rc.d script contains # REQUIRE: LOGIN cleanvar moused syscons dbus hald and console log shows correct order: Jan 31 13:53:49 revamp kernel: Starting dbus. Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Starting hald. Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Configuring syscons: Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: blanktime Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: . Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Starting gdm. Rather strange for me. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 12:42:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336021065670 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38758FC2F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (vpn-cl-163-77.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.163.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B018A000A; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:42:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49844712.6060105@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:41:54 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Morozovsky References: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:42:28 -0000 Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > DF> > After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except one thing: > DF> > > DF> > on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this console is not > DF> > responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to text console, > DF> > log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. > DF> > > DF> > Any hints? Thank you in advance. > DF> > > DF> > DF> You are facing the same problem as Oliver. Your X starts before the connection > DF> between hald und dbus is established and hence X does not find hald. > > Well, but gdm rc.d script contains > > # REQUIRE: LOGIN cleanvar moused syscons dbus hald > > and console log shows correct order: ...> > Rather strange for me. > Yes, they start in the correct order, but the connection between them is not done in time. This is a conceptual problem that can only be fixed properly upstream in Xorg (the problem also exists with Linux distributions). The only workaround that comes to mind is to operate X without hald or delay the start of gdm. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 12:48:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DC1106567C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B698FC16 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VCmGPL052723; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:48:16 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:48:16 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: <49844712.6060105@bsdforen.de> Message-ID: References: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> <49844712.6060105@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:48:16 +0300 (MSK) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:48:40 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Dominic Fandrey wrote: DF> > DF> You are facing the same problem as Oliver. Your X starts before the connection DF> > DF> between hald und dbus is established and hence X does not find hald. DF> > DF> > Well, but gdm rc.d script contains DF> > DF> > # REQUIRE: LOGIN cleanvar moused syscons dbus hald DF> > DF> > and console log shows correct order: ...> DF> > Rather strange for me. DF> > DF> DF> Yes, they start in the correct order, but the connection between them is not done DF> in time. This is a conceptual problem that can only be fixed properly upstream in DF> Xorg (the problem also exists with Linux distributions). The only workaround that DF> comes to mind is to operate X without hald or delay the start of gdm. Ah, I see detached cycle that waits not more than 60 seconds and does not probe hald. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 12:49:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DAC1065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FB28FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VCnrJI090868; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0VCnrg1090867; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:49:53 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Dmitry Morozovsky Message-ID: <20090131124953.GS90849@albert.catwhisker.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Dmitry Morozovsky , stable@freebsd.org References: <49842FDA.1040101@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HRnx18n0jmP0CroI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:49:54 -0000 --HRnx18n0jmP0CroI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:17:49PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > .... > # REQUIRE: LOGIN cleanvar moused syscons dbus hald >=20 > and console log shows correct order: >=20 > Jan 31 13:53:49 revamp kernel: Starting dbus. > Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Starting hald. > Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Configuring syscons: > Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: blanktime > Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: . > Jan 31 13:53:50 revamp kernel: Starting gdm. >=20 > Rather strange for me. It appears to me (empirically, not from code inspection) that there may (at least in some cases) be a delay between the time hald(8) starts and the time that X can actually use it in a useful way to determine information about the mouse and keyboard. I ended up augmenting my xdm(1) start-up script's "start" stanza with: =2E.. # REQUIRE: ... hald ... =2E.. =2E /etc/rc.subr =2E.. until hald=3D$(check_process hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse); [ -n "${ha= ld}" ]; do info "$name start-up waiting for hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse" sleep 1 done until [ -r /proc/${hald}/status ]; do info "$name start-up waiting to read /proc/${hald}/status" sleep 1 done # This can actually be done as a single expression, but that helps # neither debugging nor comprehension. hald_start=3D`awk -F "[ ,]" '{print $8}' /proc/${hald}/status` now=3D`date "+%s"` # This was determined empirically hald_delay=3D8 wait=3D$(($hald_start + $hald_delay - $now)) if [ $wait -gt 0 ]; then info "$name start-up waiting $wait seconds for hald-addon-m= ouse-sysmouse" sleep $wait fi =2E.. With the above, I've only had the "non-responsive keyboard & mouse" syndrome a couple of times (out of about 2 dozen or so xdm start-ups) in the last several days. Mind, I don't consider that a "solution" -- it's a hack. But if it helps.... :-} Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --HRnx18n0jmP0CroI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmESPAACgkQmprOCmdXAD23VwCfcHhx1AhvV3MPUrWb/E+RQcWz 7koAoICNURPpvwIjc8S6neBrN9FF0btT =uyA0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HRnx18n0jmP0CroI-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 15:56:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915F410656C3 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F1C8FC13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.171] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VFtZIN077809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:55:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Dmitry Morozovsky In-Reply-To: References: <49841824.3070302@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/RwAX2Wz5ZFqYS1ECeyG" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:55:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1233417357.3194.4.camel@ferret.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Johannes Dieterich Subject: Re: Xorg hangs on first boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:56:19 -0000 --=-/RwAX2Wz5ZFqYS1ECeyG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 12:26 +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Johannes Dieterich wrote: >=20 > JD> | yes, I'm the next person to report Xorg upgrade problems ;) > JD> | > JD> | After thorough upgrade (ugh!!!) almost all work as expected, except > JD> one thing: > JD> | > JD> | on initial machine boot, X starts, gdm executes -- and then this > JD> console is not > JD> | responded to either keyboard or mouse; however, I can switch to tex= t > JD> console, > JD> | log in and kill X server. After that, everything works correctly. > JD> | > JD> | Any hints? Thank you in advance. This sounds like the dbus/hald/gdm race on startup. A partial solution has been proposed upstream. My priority list has FreeBSD specific issues at the top, but if I find time I may try to finish the work to fix it upstream. If some dbus aware person wants to help out, just ping me and I can point you at the right bit of code. robert. > JD> Just an idea: I saw excactly this behaviour with my keyboard and mous= e > JD> (both USB, is this the case for you?) Setting > JD>=20 > JD> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > JD>=20 > JD> in xorg.conf as described in UPDATING solved it for me (despite that = it > JD> should not be needed anymore at all and especially not for keyboards.= . :-) ) >=20 > Nope, that's not my case, as I have PS/2 input devices and do have enable= d=20 > dbus/hald (I use gnome, so they were enabled anyway) --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-/RwAX2Wz5ZFqYS1ECeyG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmEdIwACgkQM4TrQ4qfRON2FgCdEHE4tvYiduVpo6QqpgjZcq0M 7O8AnRRJp6JxgvntuQAbzYrfah23Gjnu =LLPA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/RwAX2Wz5ZFqYS1ECeyG-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 18:27:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE001065705 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E908FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D21746B0D; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:27:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:27:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Borja Marcos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Puzzling change in performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:27:08 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Borja Marcos wrote: > The attached graphs are from a server running FreeBSD 7.1-i386 (now) with > the typical Apache2+MySQL with forums, Joomla... > > I just cannot explain this. Disk I/O bandwidth was suffering a lot, and > after the update the disks are almost idle. > > Any ideas? I cannot imagine a change between versions to justify this. The > latest update to 7-STABLE had been done in August. > > Maybe it was just degradation due to not being rebooted since August? But > it's strange anyway, and I had restarted MySQL and Apache some times during > this period. There are basically three ways to go about exploring this, none particularly good: (1) Do a more formal before and after analysis of performance on the box, perhaps using tools like kernel profiling, hwpmc, dtrace, etc. (2) Do a binary search to narrow down the date of the change that improved things until it becomes clear which mattered. (3) Hope someone annecdotally remembers something that might or might not be it and assume they're right. Of these, I'd guess (2) is actually the most effective way to go about it, but is potentially time-consuming. As you point out, the most interesting question is whether, when you go back to 7.0, things suddenly get slower again, or not. Typically long uptimes don't lead to performance problems on FreeBSD (in my experience) so I think that's unlikely to be the source. There are a lot of improvements in 7.1 relating to performance, but none particularly stands out for me as having the effect you describe. If you're really curious, I would try to pin it down with a binary search. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 19:02:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574AC10656E8 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2001:470:8:162::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C228FC12 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LTL7B-0007Es-M7; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:02:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:02:49 -0500 From: Gary Palmer To: Charles Sprickman Message-ID: <20090131190249.GH81380@in-addr.com> References: <49819672.1090208@thekeelecentre.com> <20090130050451.GF81380@in-addr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Richard Tector Subject: Re: 7.1, mpt and slow writes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:02:51 -0000 On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 01:48:46AM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Gary Palmer wrote: > > >On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:43:11PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > > > >[ snip ] > > > >>Any idea what happened to the sysctl? Is there some other method to > >>verify the loader tunable took (other than testing the throughput)? > > > >Boot with -v. If the loader tunable took effect, you should see > >"Enabling SATA WC on phy " instead of "Disabling SATA ..." > > Cool, it works then. Why was the info removed from the sysctl mib? > > mpt0: Enabling SATA WC on phy 0 > mpt0: Enabling SATA WC on phy 1 > > Bonnie++ is showing me about 24MB/s writes and 70MB/s reads. > > Is any of this verbose stuff problematic? > > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0xa (ACK not required). > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x16 (ACK not > required). > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x12 (ACK not > required). > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x12 (ACK not > required). > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0x16 (ACK not > required). > mpt0: No Handlers For Any Event Notify Frames. Event 0xb (ACK not required). > > And is any of this info found at boot-time accessible while the system is > running? Hi, Sorry, I can't answer your questions - all I did to find the boot -v information was to look in the kernel source code. Grepping through the CVS history I don't actually see a point in CVS history where there was a sysctl MIB value for the SATA WC status, although I might be mistaken. Perhaps you are remembering using kenv to get at hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc instead of sysctl? Regards, Gary > mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Settings ( Hot-Plug-Spares High-Priority-ReSync ) > mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Using Spare Pool: 0 > mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): 2 Members: > (mpt0:1:32:0): Primary Online > (mpt0:1:1:0): Secondary Online > mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): RAID-1 - Optimal > mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Status ( Enabled ) > (mpt0:vol0:1): Physical (mpt0:0:1:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:0:0) > (mpt0:vol0:1): Online > (mpt0:vol0:0): Physical (mpt0:0:32:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:1:0) > (mpt0:vol0:0): Online > > Thanks, > > Charles > > ps - would it kill Dell to make a damn ISO of a bootable media for RAID > controller firmware upgrades??? I don't even own anything with a floppy > drive anymore. > > >Regards, > > > >Gary > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 20:50:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5E11065677; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vehemens@verizon.net) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF98FC17; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vehemens@verizon.net) Received: from sam ([71.107.27.218]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEC001ZUPON8R36@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:48:24 -0600 (CST) From: vehemens To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Message-id: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:50:12 -0000 On Fri Jan 30 11:53:16 PST 2009, Peter Jeremy wrote: >As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org >upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this >suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes >(see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using >FreeBSD as a desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant >POLA violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is >not acceptable. The problem isn't so much as a problem with xorg updates as it is with the overall port approach. Not having a stable versus current ports approach is probably the biggest cause of the problems seen here. The port freezes don't help either. In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade fails, you should fall back to what worked. Trying to partial rebuild ports versus rebuilding from scratch after a major update is just asking for problems. There probably needs to be a more incremental approach when upgrading major ports. For example, I updated my system a piece at a time over the last several months, and had no significant problems with the offical x11 upgrade as the changes were small. And last, many of the video drivers have little if any support. If you have something other then ati/intel/nivdia, you should expect problems. Input drivers are in a similar state. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:25:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165141065730 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41368FC1D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ADT91b0031GhbT858MRPas; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:25:23 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AMRN1b00b0FJTGg3TMRP6U; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:25:23 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LTNL7-000FnE-BX; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:25:21 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: vehemens In-reply-to: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> (message from vehemens on Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) References: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:25:21 -0500 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:25:24 -0000 ,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) ----* | In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade | fails, you should fall back to what worked. So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port is brought in -- and it disables my system. What is my way of action? Right -- install the old packages, taken from an FTP site (is there a way to get the previous "source", that is all the ports/*/*/Makefile files? Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) When I install the old packages, I can no longer rebuild and install new (say `csup'ed on 2009-03-01) port components, as one whole -- I can only do it selectively, excluding from the upgrade most X-dependent things. That sucks and will lead to a problem earlier or later. | Trying to partial rebuild ports versus rebuilding from scratch after | a major update is just asking for problems. Exactly -- but I haven't done this -- and I have big problems with the new X. | There probably needs to be a more incremental approach when | upgrading major ports. For example, I updated my system a piece at | a time over the last several months, and had no significant problems | with the offical x11 upgrade as the changes were small. I've been rebuilding and reinstalling ports every weekend, for about 1.5 years -- with no problem until the last one, when the new X was in. | And last, many of the video drivers have little if any support. If | you have something other then ati/intel/nivdia, you should expect | problems. Input drivers are in a similar state. Both my systems I've been reporting problems with are using the `nv' driver: $ grep /modules/drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so One system (Dell Latitude) could not be made operational with the new X at all; the other has garbage in the windows and the "captive mouse pointer" -- both issues new in the new X. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:50:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51F81065762; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vehemens@verizon.net) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9658FC26; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vehemens@verizon.net) Received: from sam ([71.107.27.218]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEC00LT5VCJBB75@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:50:43 -0600 (CST) From: vehemens To: Alex Goncharov Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:54:42 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> In-reply-to: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Message-id: <200901311354.43031.vehemens@verizon.net> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:50:50 -0000 On Saturday 31 January 2009 01:25:21 pm Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) ----* > > | In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade > | fails, you should fall back to what worked. > > So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port is brought in > -- and it disables my system. What is my way of action? Right -- > install the old packages, taken from an FTP site (is there a way to > get the previous "source", that is all the ports/*/*/Makefile files? > Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) You ignored the first part of the email which is that the ports system is flawed due to the lack of a stable versus current branch. It seems to me that you want to run a stable branch, while the ports tree is effectively a current branch. > When I install the old packages, I can no longer rebuild and install > new (say `csup'ed on 2009-03-01) port components, as one whole -- I > can only do it selectively, excluding from the upgrade most > X-dependent things. That sucks and will lead to a problem earlier or > later. I never update /usr/ports directly. I have a separate csup ports area. When I update, I save the old ports tree and replace it with a new one. If a problem occurs, I can fall back to the old tree or pieces of it. > | Trying to partial rebuild ports versus rebuilding from scratch after > | a major update is just asking for problems. > > Exactly -- but I haven't done this -- and I have big problems with the > new X. > > | There probably needs to be a more incremental approach when > | upgrading major ports. For example, I updated my system a piece at > | a time over the last several months, and had no significant problems > | with the offical x11 upgrade as the changes were small. > > I've been rebuilding and reinstalling ports every weekend, for about > 1.5 years -- with no problem until the last one, when the new X was > in. Well, it depends on which ports you are updating. If you only run X, then I would expect your statement to be correct. > | And last, many of the video drivers have little if any support. If > | you have something other then ati/intel/nivdia, you should expect > | problems. Input drivers are in a similar state. > > Both my systems I've been reporting problems with are using the `nv' > driver: > > $ grep /modules/drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so > > One system (Dell Latitude) could not be made operational with the new > X at all; the other has garbage in the windows and the "captive mouse > pointer" -- both issues new in the new X. See above :)