From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 20:39:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ADA106567A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web1@vcvps1364.vcdns.de) Received: from vcvps1364.vcdns.de (vcvps1364.vcdns.de [88.80.215.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F2B8FC1D for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcvps1364.vcdns.de (Postfix, from userid 33) id 24E0310BAE2A; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:06:40 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Mme Claire Page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20100913200640.24E0310BAE2A@vcvps1364.vcdns.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:06:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Ramadan heureux mon cher X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mm.chiwe.conte@gmail.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:39:07 -0000 I am Mrs Claire Page sending you this mail from my sick bed in the hospital. 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S'il vous plaît communiquer avec mon avocat, Email: (barr_willam_frank@lawyer.com) From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:18:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B9D1065672 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143858FC15 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8FNkh6P015545 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8FNkhDw015544 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:43 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/KohU7xR/z4Rz7fl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:18:26 -0000 --/KohU7xR/z4Rz7fl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My employer has been using HP machines a fair amount over the last couple of years (that I know of); I just received the following request from a contact in IT: | I had a chat with our HP support team today try to get better | FreeBSD support on RAID controller in DL180. One thing that they | requested is to see ifwe can provide them a list of commercial | companies that still have large scale of FreeBSD deployment. They | mentioned that Yahoo is gradually moving away from FreeBSD. Do you | have some names that we can provide them? The ideais they can take | the list back to HP and try to argue for more FreeBSD support. | They hired a guy to do FreeBSD support, but he left HP and went to | Google with his FreeBSD knowledge. Any help? Thanks! Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --/KohU7xR/z4Rz7fl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyRWuIACgkQmprOCmdXAD08UgCcCvXTBYX9NyIrUDia/2OLsj63 qBMAoIIy9W8EO8oHSLLLxOrzfhNozfl4 =lbHl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/KohU7xR/z4Rz7fl-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 01:50:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B89F1065672 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhyous@yahoo.com) Received: from web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8FF18FC13 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42397 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2010 01:24:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284600251; bh=p3gPKkiY58f/9us02sv1glnegjpqMuNiX+bCaGT5ls4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qJUF1u01hvBD5XIetVInLhNGmauVM2VhWsavdW77tJUyryMdPYbSelFzqE28Eio0d7LkaSxpeqOte3KZ6mGwmsiJyYd5e8DDOvHD3wiyvHn4eYARZIxWSu1i/pOH3qX6h7Ms5TTiW93Il+OoA3U7UtAxxJEEFZr96g+W5P40CaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=15MN9LjCz6fi8HuXWB+C8vUsud2mSqod5nZO53kqB9pUYhT+mMPPvyCtshBrmEGRO+3IP7jRjSuUO+gLbxp/b4UJEzpPzGX/wb/9F23dlZIh0B1XzDKM4OxEVazGuljsaW6qYdjuMcfd3mXUCxWFBQtmPn0DqJJR5ja+t+N+9Bs=; Message-ID: <687881.42385.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lpXCoycVM1mdaQfk1e6Jii3LW1T.zI1IHXUhncOVsSGFm1b nJdBITE6FC8bBvbJmygj.4JyqRv930wR8S9Ay2U_nEo6O2lWdEsZGTckg4Iz yLf4v0vtj8Q7Fx1Fnv9fNLNA62WOONyII1dM9VEOpZxhabbk2pRXpV22LY8H 9FZBAxD.mmPGIBgeU3gujWSf.CNvoqLrGjhxSOaneW9cuDS.hF4k4vD5vsXI BxFPwJ8bGS6RLsUTHmx49yj4H97D8do6YtgI5QpztNh92isnlTwumUXbrVib YIAWUWZrYD6moH4s1yUh2Fj115OLzbDteGqaz2Dh0qZ9rIg-- Received: from [71.195.248.121] by web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:24:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jared Barneck To: David Wolfskill , advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jared Barneck List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:52 -0000 > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Wolfskill > To: advocacy@freebsd.org > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 5:46:43 PM > Subject: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale <-- snip --> David, An email came through, I thought right here on this mailing list, with a list of the most reliable hosting companies. It referenced this link. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2010/08/11/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-july-2010.html Five of the most reliable hosting companies (the top 4 and #10) use FreeBSD. I guess they might not want to use HP if HP is not going to support FreeBSD. There is Kace, which is an appliance that runs FreeBSD, but it was bought by Dell, so it will probably only ever be installed on Dells. Maybe HP should partner up with iXSystems to have them do FreeBSD support and development for them. Sorry, I wasn't of much help, Jared Barneck From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 04:03:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AD1065679 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhyous@yahoo.com) Received: from web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B628FC1D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56610 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2010 04:03:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284609790; bh=788mZH9PazxDDr6XvhpT2BOOr/iEaIAmPfzDY/i23R0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S3kwrcAiCTKBewhrRx/UXtLcR3ClQKm1kZ0cnpickeczHWD0EIOUhJcEGWhHZ6+PfKutz5FKsseuts3mPd0n0ZCSU1J4bAYDu1OGORqpiIEK+g+2pGs9o/aGIMCWXdsxvinYZAlF3JhW9oSDhz2eJSTNSHWPXJvVMHha/YSRNrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GsCN59f40B7IRYJcn8yEBOhUtOBH2w1AMKKhn7H/DR504goue+xqR3ImZuaETVaCz+n+5zI51uM0tN2GJ35OfJT8sILReRq2teMlVwNw0nkfmbHJU/H5/JBej2ANCWuBLJbvMff+R796EuQX5U1Jg9x+GEbFGwdIiWpjsaQ7Aw0=; Message-ID: <326921.55992.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JXiB6VwVM1mq0YfVSKfu5o9ix3g1aUu1rESFdauNsOVBwxD fbFOKh7tffva9E2ACJoLzTW3n.Q4DwHzqaCJO5zCANdTS9VdvRkT_2BvG83I A1ObZcQGRhJ4JKxihE6qmmSKhc8p5IVp589.mMpJ8gOep0za8Y6IKCaB7P82 tcKUCRPAa5K6LMq1pkwIIQmsqfGtjWlSLtpPGahBvrfzGs4WzjZL3iGsV0uk QWXHcNMzp8.THE.RhoGYvDX3krK6j_UxppC0JeGbWCqns5yLSAhFQs5ufynF vgSCPlT9tQUiWGn__.vSxFaSSX9ZpRTVUHDP0O5NMXw-- Received: from [71.195.248.121] by web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:03:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> <687881.42385.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jared Barneck To: David Wolfskill , advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <687881.42385.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jared Barneck List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:03:11 -0000 David, If HP is not really going to support FreeBSD, then maybe Dell is a better way to go as Dell's purchase of Kace will keep them supporting FreeBSD for quite some time. Though because Kace is appliance based, Dell only has to make it work on a few Dell servers. It actually surprises me when people choose GPL-based Operating Systems for appliances over the BSD Licensed software. It seems like such a licensing issue to sell an appliance with a GPL product when an OS that is just as good or better is free of those licensing issues. Jared Barneck _______________________________________________ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 04:11:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E989106564A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185718FC17 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8G4BLls017183; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8G4BLLH017182; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:11:21 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Jared Barneck Message-ID: <20100916041121.GZ1415@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> <687881.42385.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <326921.55992.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qwWC3uIwaXcGNtT+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <326921.55992.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:11:22 -0000 --qwWC3uIwaXcGNtT+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:03:10PM -0700, Jared Barneck wrote: > David, >=20 > If HP is not really going to support FreeBSD, My understanding of the context of the request was that my correspondent in IT had been asked by someone in HP to help provide a business case for HP to spend more (perhaps in a "Mad Tea Party" sense) resources supporting FreeBSD. > then maybe Dell is a better way to go... My employer already has quite a few HP machines that were purchased with the express intent of running FreeBSD. The decision was not mine. Indeed, I am preparing to start testing an alternative hardware configuration (and vendor). > ... Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --qwWC3uIwaXcGNtT+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyRmOgACgkQmprOCmdXAD2HggCdHrHdWsq3WXnPZid19RSGja0a b8cAoIRy2KGBBE+bW4+aZOyarkGaaufF =5OkU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qwWC3uIwaXcGNtT+-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 07:35:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E1F1065672 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-advocacy@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5728FC1C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwVEy-0001K5-RN for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:20:12 +0200 Received: from nuclight.avtf.net ([217.29.94.29]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:20:12 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by nuclight.avtf.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:20:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <20100915234643.GT1415@albert.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nuclight.avtf.net X-Comment-To: David Wolfskill User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:35:35 -0000 Hi David Wolfskill! On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:46:43 -0700; David Wolfskill wrote about 'Seeking list of "commercial companies that still have large scale FreeBSD deployment"': > My employer has been using HP machines a fair amount over the last > couple of years (that I know of); I just received the following request > from a contact in IT: > | I had a chat with our HP support team today try to get better > | FreeBSD support on RAID controller in DL180. One thing that they > | requested is to see ifwe can provide them a list of commercial > | companies that still have large scale of FreeBSD deployment. They > | mentioned that Yahoo is gradually moving away from FreeBSD. Do you > | have some names that we can provide them? The ideais they can take > | the list back to HP and try to argue for more FreeBSD support. > | They hired a guy to do FreeBSD support, but he left HP and went to > | Google with his FreeBSD knowledge. > Any help? Thanks! yandex.ru has a large scale FreeBSD deployment. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight]