From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 12:52:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA30B106564A for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torsten@cnc-london.net) Received: from mailhost.cnc-london.net (mailhost.cnc-london.net [209.44.113.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6202F8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11695 invoked by uid 90); 7 Nov 2010 12:25:47 +0000 Received: from 78-105-9-127.zone3.bethere.co.uk (torsten@cnc-london.net@78-105-9-127.zone3.bethere.co.uk) by mailhost.cnc-london.net (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.05st (clamdscan: 0.95.1/9472. perlscan: 2.06st. Clear:RC:1(78.105.9.127):. Processed in 0.042028 secs); 07 Nov 2010 12:25:47 -0000 Received: from 78-105-9-127.zone3.bethere.co.uk (HELO torstenWIN7) (torsten@cnc-london.net@78.105.9.127) by mailhost.cnc-london.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 2010 12:25:47 +0000 From: "Torsten Kersandt" To: References: <20101107120026.67C81106577F@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20101107120026.67C81106577F@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:25:18 -0000 Message-ID: <006301cb7e76$d7ea0530$87be0f90$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Act+c6vebqaM85hzTX67I1Lb8h4h+gAAf3cg Content-Language: en-gb Subject: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:52:29 -0000 Message: 1 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:53:15 -0500 From: Douglas K. Rand Subject: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <87mxpmtbr8.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have a moderately aged Tyan S4882 system that I need to support 12 SATA disks with for a ZFS pool. The motherboard doesn't provide any PCI-Express slots, but does have two 133 MHz PCI-X slots. Other than a 3ware S9550SX-12 or Areca ARC-1130, both of which are a bit hard to find, I was wondering if anybody had suggestions for me. ************************************************ HI Douglas I'm using the http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm With FreeBSD 6.4/7.2/8.0 and 8.1 In your case that would be 2 cards to a total of 16 ports, but you have 4 SATA build in and may get away with one card only Very fast and at USD100 very reasonable and on ebay half price. I use the card only for JOBD/SATA to PCI because the RAID is software and rather unusable The good thing is that you can interchange your drives to and from standard SATA controllers later and will not lose access or partitions. Good luck Regards Torsten From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 00:11:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386AA106566B for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (zimbra.meridian-enviro.com [12.192.92.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097D08FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5298830701CA for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:11:47 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at meridian-enviro.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "References" Received: from zimbra.meridian-enviro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.meridian-enviro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cmJorJksLWY9 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:11:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from delta.meridian-enviro.com (delta.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.43]) by zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4FA30701C9 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:11:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:11:46 -0600 Message-ID: <87aalk65dp.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> From: Douglas K. Rand To: In-Reply-To: <006301cb7e76$d7ea0530$87be0f90$@net> References: <87mxpmtbr8.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> References: <20101107120026.67C81106577F@hub.freebsd.org> <006301cb7e76$d7ea0530$87be0f90$@net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:11:48 -0000 Hmm, that looks like a nice high density SATA card. I hadn't found many that I liked with PCI-X interfaces. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 00:26:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CB81065670 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (zimbra.meridian-enviro.com [12.192.92.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEB68FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E168F30701CA for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:26:18 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at meridian-enviro.com Received: from zimbra.meridian-enviro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.meridian-enviro.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KLRoDZzDXHyQ for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:26:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from delta.meridian-enviro.com (delta.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.43]) by zimbra.meridian-enviro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA8730701C9 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:26:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:26:18 -0600 Message-ID: <878w1464ph.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> From: Douglas K. Rand To: In-Reply-To: <87aalk65dp.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> References: <87mxpmtbr8.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> <006301cb7e76$d7ea0530$87be0f90$@net> <87aalk65dp.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:26:19 -0000 And I just noticed on the Newegg.com photos of the AOC-SAT2-MV8 that for disk activity there doesn't seem to be a ground pin for each disk, just one common ground pin. Which, for me at least, sucks because all of the disk activity LEDs in my chassis have their own ground wire and are terminated in duplex headers, not the split headers. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 01:22:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F7F106564A; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 01:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+thunw@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935B98FC26; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 01:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([unknown] [173.70.194.135]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LBJ002Z9ID8PNH1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:22:25 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4CD742AC.40403@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:22:04 -0500 From: "Mikhail T." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:23:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: sos@FreeBSD.org Subject: After a disk's disappearance, ar0 (raid5) hung... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:22:51 -0000 All of a sudden, one of the three parts (ad8) of my ar0 threw a fit. As one might expect, the OS logged the event and told me, the array is now in degraded mode. Unfortunately, all I/O on the array is hanging. The machine is otherwise responsive, but processes trying to access the array hang in either "biord" or "getblk". I'm pretty sure, that, if I reboot, things will get back to normal. But I was hoping to buy some redundancy by using RAID5... If anybody is interested in any diagnostics -- let me know, I'll hold off rebooting for 12 hours. Yours, -mi From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 14:20:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CD3106566C for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C04C8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PFSM2-0003Zs-TS for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:05:50 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:05:50 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:05:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:05:38 +0100 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <4CD742AC.40403@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101102 Thunderbird/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: <4CD742AC.40403@aldan.algebra.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: After a disk's disappearance, ar0 (raid5) hung... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:20:58 -0000 On 11/08/10 01:22, Mikhail T. wrote: > All of a sudden, one of the three parts (ad8) of my ar0 threw a fit. As > one might expect, the OS logged the event and told me, the array is now > in degraded mode. > > Unfortunately, all I/O on the array is hanging. The machine is otherwise > responsive, but processes trying to access the array hang in either > "biord" or "getblk". I'm pretty sure, that, if I reboot, things will get > back to normal. But I was hoping to buy some redundancy by using RAID5... > > If anybody is interested in any diagnostics -- let me know, I'll hold > off rebooting for 12 hours. Yours, Details? I don't remember of any combination of devices which would use ATA devices (adX), RAID-5 and have "arX" as device name. What volume manager are you using? On which FreeBSD version? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 9 09:10:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D70106567A for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephane.lapie@darkbsd.org) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (shinigami.darkbsd.org [82.227.96.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207F58FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C275CCF for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:52:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; s=selector1; bh=L1YPlyyjXLxnROM4PPKdx4Sn6FU=; b=C HpGR3cIu+EMlONAOLgshPW0hgjVbsE+HPD83L8NUcxrMGRd9kdzgfFBJMW3kABRS mQqMwaNjrC9PhHao0Dj4c+X8iSjBYFc0kVaunTRb6FqM0ZESDmXz+ap0n7xyQ+IE 3lNgnnertQHcMAGgzW6QcBVxa7YrcaT4pcEG9KL9CY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; q=dns; s=selector1; b=1cR6eoCxCcCLPh+YfHRVggKG2ki kGbIzxOrZmIglvi7ABY5Tn41k3Y/B4MFLNA1ba0TDjR2vI498XiGVrPl07Rc5hah nK4KyB5KcKoHvQeXfLSa5PVn5Oh039n641HeHQJiYdARVNuFqz4koPawc+nBVFD6 rY7DnK5XOA8vXc2w= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=darkbsd.org; h= content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:subject :mime-version:user-agent:from:from:date:date:message-id:received :received; s=selector1; t=1289292721; bh=PiHVen4UlHa6zANslXga0DE PoVLbOvCH9OYkj29uW0k=; b=LmbWuR6/m5M3qdyCGrN+qm21ze4/Dv86YRUMrLH tE85C1zzmPIr5aRB/IeEElEiTNwlFELKe3Oaw7uvENu8jQirjFh5XAlhJeg0tWSo Znp2M41o7iFdlnYAx1EH4ytrW4+rWky+aLoucV/uWemDj8d8OhStqfOR3x7uabwA rtx4= Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (quasar.darkbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id yBi1CmE4eaaD for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.162.153] (unknown [210.188.173.245]) (Authenticated sender: darksoul) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F71E5CC7 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:52:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4CD90BA6.3010101@darkbsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:51:50 +0900 From: Stephane LAPIE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <87mxpmtbr8.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> <006301cb7e76$d7ea0530$87be0f90$@net> <87aalk65dp.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> <878w1464ph.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> In-Reply-To: <878w1464ph.wl%rand@meridian-enviro.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB5C72AC3F031440525FBB25C" Subject: Re: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 09:10:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB5C72AC3F031440525FBB25C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am personally using a setup with two of these cards, they usually work fine but you have to pay attention to the following quirks : - If you have a dead disk, and end up having to replace it, sometimes the port just stops answering, and even a hot reboot with BIOS port reinitialization won't fix the problem. As far as my experience goes, I had to do a complete cold reboot to recover the port. - The optional BIOS ROMs don't play nice with other extension cards you might have on a busy system. You might want to disable them and leave the disk initialization to FreeBSD. Given the first very, very annoying quirk in case of disk replacement, I am myself looking for other cards if any better candidates would exist. On 11/08/2010 09:26 AM, Douglas K. Rand wrote: > And I just noticed on the Newegg.com photos of the AOC-SAT2-MV8 that > for disk activity there doesn't seem to be a ground pin for each disk, > just one common ground pin. Which, for me at least, sucks because all > of the disk activity LEDs in my chassis have their own ground wire and > are terminated in duplex headers, not the split headers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" --=20 Stephane LAPIE, EPITA SRS, Promo 2005 "Even when they have digital readouts, I can't understand them." --MegaTokyo --------------enigB5C72AC3F031440525FBB25C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzZC6wACgkQ24Ql8u6TF2OUKACg5Mo2PN1xGSTopX/zzS0aZQb/ 07sAoMu9Si4X5lsD+kAHV4vnnGXVMOI9 =RDSn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB5C72AC3F031440525FBB25C-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 9 19:51:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68030106564A for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A468FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oA9JWe2B000816 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:32:40 -0500 Received: from dieterbsd@engineer.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id n.c3f.74538186 (34968) for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.144]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v129.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA075-5bae4cd9a1c813a; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:32:34 -0500 Received: from web-mmc-d02 (web-mmc-d02.sim.aol.com [205.188.103.68]) by smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA015-5bae4cd9a1c813a; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:32:24 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:32:24 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 67.206.164.64 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: dieterbsd@engineer.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: Mail.com Webmail 32843-STANDARD Received: from 67.206.164.64 by web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.68) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:32:24 -0500 Message-Id: <8CD4E5BF8456212-978-828@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: dieterbsd@engineer.com Subject: Re: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:51:11 -0000 >> And I just noticed on the Newegg.com photos of the AOC-SAT2-MV8 that >> for disk activity there doesn't seem to be a ground pin for each=20 disk, >> just one common ground pin. Which, for me at least, sucks because all >> of the disk activity LEDs in my chassis have their own ground wire=20 and >> are terminated in duplex headers, not the split headers. > > - The optional BIOS ROMs don't play nice with other extension cards=20 you > might have on a busy system. You might want to disable them and leave > the disk initialization to FreeBSD. How does one disable the BIOS ROMs on expansion cards? Is this specific to the AOC-SAT2-MV8, or can you do this on the mainboard? Sounds like the sort of thing they would hide in the mainboard BIOS somewhere. I have a couple of JMB363 cards that I think would work better without the BIOS ROMs. Unfortunately I have never run across any sort of "turn off expansion card BIOS ROM" option. If at all possible get cards that have NCQ support in the driver (e.g. ahci(4) or siis(4)). Write performance is 10-13 times as fast with NCQ, and the system doesn't get clogged up with outstanding work. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 10 01:27:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C2A1065675 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephane.lapie@darkbsd.org) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (shinigami.darkbsd.org [82.227.96.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77E38FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A20451A0 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:27:36 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; s=selector1; bh=Aj2MPzQn2BIW3W9W44Ht+s39Jpc=; b=U CqlBmxjk22RjxwAFHiRcSuBHq8upNeTjpdHgmX4t5HxATMmi6LDVWB9Dv2pJWOnT Xy/oFo6dG78fRLQWRmNVrR3ARmriNrC0LDlRvlL7Pt1kXahzPbwMr1Vs4XISNo5L aoJprumN05QTi3rm8h3l81Y9UzPLEkYHF7e+KoBIIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; q=dns; s=selector1; b=f4ucrb7SvnuNtrjkPicycW09nOY DMmnycP4beaNy+uxwzeBvCWjmDCqSQWSnuYs81NZ/oV5xSS28L2s3AYhnqhGMg1J eKGYNsVX1e6EccV70xPXFBYelr+XGUFX4LLu9d2AYpnQib3o8RR/hWrGPoKQA4dz Bc4l6Fxa7AYi8dIk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=darkbsd.org; h= content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:subject :mime-version:user-agent:from:from:date:date:message-id:received :received; s=selector1; t=1289352452; bh=ITw/a6brIP01XSclZk4Bdt/ abALIfgu+lOmv9+2mET8=; b=uHYKL9SwcgD69qfpnkQ0pbFYeLyB51BozE4VoET RdhlA1lL0KYMDay2vBJvYOjnj0pZziONiKz6k6YJNrqKR2TG3OQMrcAZWZb114af 6RfS9I6QdLGkdu3lfGqqDQAVNX9dFNhTZAJo2gPZmPcMnmT6i9BJGotHX9p80nW0 2lvI= Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (quasar.darkbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Obers4QSFBXU for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:27:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.162.153] (unknown [210.188.173.245]) (Authenticated sender: darksoul) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 672685199 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:27:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4CD9F4F6.3020804@darkbsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:27:18 +0900 From: Stephane LAPIE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <8CD4E5BF8456212-978-828@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD4E5BF8456212-978-828@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig39554B1962D11156A4BD03D1" Subject: Re: 12 SATA ports via PCI-X slots X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:27:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig39554B1962D11156A4BD03D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/10/2010 04:32 AM, dieterbsd@engineer.com wrote: >>> And I just noticed on the Newegg.com photos of the AOC-SAT2-MV8 that >>> for disk activity there doesn't seem to be a ground pin for each=20 > disk, >>> just one common ground pin. Which, for me at least, sucks because all= >>> of the disk activity LEDs in my chassis have their own ground wire=20 > and >>> are terminated in duplex headers, not the split headers. >> >> - The optional BIOS ROMs don't play nice with other extension cards=20 > you >> might have on a busy system. You might want to disable them and leave >> the disk initialization to FreeBSD. >=20 > How does one disable the BIOS ROMs on expansion cards? Is this > specific to the AOC-SAT2-MV8, or can you do this on the mainboard? > Sounds like the sort of thing they would hide in the mainboard BIOS > somewhere. I have a couple of JMB363 cards that I think would work > better without the BIOS ROMs. Unfortunately I have never run across > any sort of "turn off expansion card BIOS ROM" option. Yes, you should be able to disable this from the mainboard by saying you don't want to use the Option ROM on Slot #X. --=20 Stephane LAPIE, EPITA SRS, Promo 2005 "Even when they have digital readouts, I can't understand them." --MegaTokyo --------------enig39554B1962D11156A4BD03D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzZ9PcACgkQ24Ql8u6TF2N5OQCfZ3EExFk4qz/gtaOH2NEqqKyc E4oAn37vuiai1wo03HtJypWX5T9Dtg4w =E7zo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig39554B1962D11156A4BD03D1--