From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 02:15:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3CE10656AC for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 02:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419E08FC17 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 02:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1442023qyk.13 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:15:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sdfOE3QufXzHyLDzEnSlnICYsKAe1AiFUQWizHPvDgc=; b=J7xqvNkz4pJJRqCQO7KOouZTPk3ExTw+47ZfZTwwvRF1QmQMrDsoy4jD4qBHu7FtYR oGM5hJ7yDWa0C4PFayNxVW9iq6ywZ1sVnNgYamkWiPB94J7vehrBsS8SUUurTRL5uWPO Anert8vIj4kVnjdh8p6Tpcm+kPizHFSobkDLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ha0yjh/PlhruuPltxqZ9qmEz/82Z2uBEaz+/RVobInecxez0go5W5a7dVqF8XwM1+u 7oQ65ZKFy4vEamFXbIFF9UcjISQAFL6hFjpphuGPf6FdBNTh0iZcr3eUpoEdeN2gU/6w 3TypTybsXHome7mXquYhRrDmKff0+Elj9LJ8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.65.91 with SMTP id h27mr1426862qai.13.1283651221122; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.28.207 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 18:47:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=00c09f9b08820ceee7048f795704 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Diablo 6 core dumped during building of OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:15:13 -0000 --00c09f9b08820ceee7048f795704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.1 i386 on pretty standard 5 year old hardware (Pentium 4, Intel motherboard, 1+ gig RAM). Installed X without problems, then proceeded to try to install OpenJDK6 ("make install" from /usr/ports/java/openjdk6). Got an error, see attachment. Note, the system and GENERIC kernel were compiled by myself from RELENG_8_1, my /etc/make.conf file is this: CPUTYPE?=pentium4 CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe # added by use.perl 2010-09-04 04:39:24 PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 --00c09f9b08820ceee7048f795704-- From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 19:20:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D831065696 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D8F8FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100904120020.4420B1065797@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100904120020.4420B1065797@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <20100905192032.330C72B214E@mx5.roble.com> Subject: Re: 1.6.0.3p4_17 (24_sep_2007) build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:20:32 -0000 > /usr/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC -W -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -pipe -DDONT_ENABLE_IPV6 -Damd64 -DARCH='"amd64"' -DRELEASE='"1.6.0_03-p4"' -DFULL_VERSION='"1.6.0_03-p4-root_03_sep_2010_17_39-b00"' -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_ALLBSD_SOURCE -D_LP64=1 -I. -I/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-amd64/tmp/sun/java.net/net/CClassHeaders -I../../../src/solaris/javavm/export -I../../../src/share/javavm/export -I../../../src/share/javavm/include -I../../../src/solaris/javavm/include -I../../../src/share/native/common -I../../../src/solaris/native/common -I../../../src/share/native/java/net -I../../../src/solaris/native/java/net -c -o /usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-amd64/tmp/sun/java.net/net/obj64/Inet4AddressImpl.o ../../../src/solaris/native/java/net/Inet4AddressImpl.c > gmake[4]: *** [/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/control/build/bsd-amd64/tmp/sun/java.net/net/obj64/NetworkInterface.o] Error 1 > gmake[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... > ../../../src/solaris/native/java/net/Inet4AddressImpl.c: In function 'ping4': > ../../../src/solaris/native/java/net/Inet4AddressImpl.c:663: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 6 of 'recvfrom' differ in signedness > gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/j2se/make/java/net' > gmake[3]: *** [parallel_compile] Error 2 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/j2se/make/java/net' > gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/j2se/make/java' > gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk16/work/j2se/make' > gmake: *** [j2se-build] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 Must be something to that particular jail environment. The workaround was to build and install in parent (WITH_JAIL=true) and copy to the jail: unsetenv JAVA_HOME unsetenv CLASSPATH unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH setenv NO_INFO YES setenv NO_GAMES YES setenv WITHOUT_WEB YES setenv STATIC_MOTIF false setenv NO_DOCS YES setenv MINIMAL YES setenv SKIP_COMPARE_IMAGES YES setenv DONT_ENABLE_IPV6 YES setenv WITHOUT_WEB YES setenv NO_X YES setenv WITHOUT_X11 YES setenv NO_SUID_XSERVER YES cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16 make config ; make deinstall reinstall clean rm -rf /usr/local/jdk*/{src.zip,sample,demo,examples} tar cf - /var/db/pkg/jdk-1.6.0.3p4_17 /usr/local/jdk1.6.0|(cd $jailroot/&&tar xfBp -) Roger Marquis From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 08:07:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB541065674 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A563A8FC1C for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o86876vP074855 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:07:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o86876fd074854 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:07:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:07:06 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4C7D04EB.7020205@zirakzigil.org> <201008311713.56698.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <201008311713.56698.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009061107.06347.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: freebsd + netbeans 6.9 + openjdk6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:07:10 -0000 The latest i see from the ports is /usr/ports/java/netbeans with PORTVERSIO= N=3D 6.8 (and i just portsnap'd them) How did you try to build 6.9? from the original source tarball? =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 31 August 2010 17:13:56 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Achi= lleas Mantzios =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 31 August 2010 16:34:35 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Gi= ulio Ferro =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > > I can't seem to make netbeans 6.9 work with openjdk6 > >=20 > > amd64, 8.1 stable 4GB ram > >=20 > > Below I report the error I get. Is there a way to make it work? > >=20 >=20 > same hardware/os version here, > might try it out tomorrow. >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > # > > # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: > > # > > # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=3D0x000000080225dd34, pid=3D94171, tid=3D3769024= 4288 > > # > > # JRE version: 6.0-b20 > > # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (17.0-b16 mixed mode bsd-amd64 ) > > # Problematic frame: > > # > > [error occurred during error reporting (printing problematic frame), id= 0xb] > >=20 =2E.... =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 08:09:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCC5106566B for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62968FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8689HnG074888 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:09:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8689Gwe074887 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:09:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:09:16 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009061109.16934.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: Diablo 6 core dumped during building of OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:09:19 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Sunday 05 September 2010 04:47:01 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ne= rius Landys =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.1 i386 on pretty standard 5 year > old hardware (Pentium 4, Intel motherboard, 1+ gig RAM). Installed X > without problems, then proceeded to try to install OpenJDK6 ("make > install" from /usr/ports/java/openjdk6). Got an error, see > attachment. >=20 > Note, the system and GENERIC kernel were compiled by myself from > RELENG_8_1, my /etc/make.conf file is this: >=20 > CPUTYPE?=3Dpentium4 > CFLAGS=3D -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > COPTFLAGS=3D -O -pipe You could try with leaving only the last line in /etc/make.conf > # added by use.perl 2010-09-04 04:39:24 > PERL_VERSION=3D5.10.1 >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 11:06:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7C410656DD for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611EF8FC2F for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o86B6xOD011822 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:06:59 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o86B6w2l011820 for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:06:58 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:06:58 GMT Message-Id: <201009061106.o86B6w2l011820@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:06:59 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/150142 java Not installed java/openjdk6 on file system zfs /usr/lo o java/147512 java Crash of RXTX-2.1-7 on AMD64 system f ports/142704 java [PATCH] java/jai-imageio: use $SUB_FILES to dynamicall o java/141919 java Serious remote vulnerability in the JRE o java/138729 java java/jdk16: setting 'export AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit' caus o java/138728 java java/jdk16: SIGSEGV in java runtime o java/128948 java java/jdk16 built from source can't bind a socket, but o java/128809 java JVM aborted when GNU RXTX write to serial port. o java/123555 java linux-sun-jdk15, linux-sun-jdk16 produce a coredump o java/122513 java native JDKs unbuildable with Linux ones o java/121692 java java/jdk16: Java 1.5 1.5.0.14p8 crashes in RMI TCP Con o ports/121420 java java/jdk16: Java applet fails to find class under fire o ports/121416 java java/jdk15 can't build if BIN environment variable is o ports/120372 java java/linux-sun-jdk16: linux-sun-jre1.6.0 plugin doesn' o java/120146 java java/jdk15: netbeans 6.0 causes java core dump on amd6 o ports/119732 java java/linux-sun-jre16: linux-sun-jre16 plugin doesn't w o java/119063 java An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime o java/118956 java eclipse and netbeans break on diablo-jdk15 o java/118496 java Eclipse packages do not work with 6.3-RC1/amd64 o ports/116841 java cannot build java/jdk16 by using java/linux-sun-jdk16 o java/116667 java linux-sun-javac1.4 hangs on SMP o ports/116082 java java/linux-sun-jdk16 jconsole is unable to connect to o java/114644 java tomcat goes out of PermSpace, jvm crashes o ports/113751 java java/linux-sun-jdk15: linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.12,2 - java o ports/113467 java Multiple "missing return value" errors building JDK on f java/112595 java Java appletviewer frequently hangs (kse_release loop) o java/110912 java Java krb5 client leaks UDP connections f java/105482 java diablo-jdk1.5.0/jdk-1.5.0 java.nio.Selector bug o java/97461 java Diablo JDK does not report Update level in a format su o ports/84742 java make ports/java/jdk14 use dynamic Motif librarires s java/62837 java linux-sun-jdk14 executables hang with COMPAT_LINUX in 31 problems total. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:25:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC241065697 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F25E8FC0C for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o87APhPq082201; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:25:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o87APg2D082200; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:25:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Antonio Varela User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4C7D04EB.7020205@zirakzigil.org> <201009061107.06347.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:25:42 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201009071325.42777.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd + netbeans 6.9 + openjdk6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:25:49 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Monday 06 September 2010 17:44:05 =CE=B3=CF=81=CE= =AC=CF=88=CE=B1=CF=84=CE=B5: > You can download the OS Independent zip. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Achilleas Mantzios > wrote: > > The latest i see from the ports is /usr/ports/java/netbeans with PORTVE= RSION=3D =A0 =A06.8 > > (and i just portsnap'd them) > > How did you try to build 6.9? from the original source tarball? >=20 it craches for me as well. just looked a little bit to hs_err_pidxxx.log an= d gdb /path/to/java java.core to no avail it puzzles me if this bug should be treated as openjdk/freebsd/netbeans rel= ated or all of the above... What does your system do with the official netbeans 6.8? =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 14:52:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B70810656D9 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auryn@zirakzigil.org) Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org (mail.zirakzigil.org [82.63.178.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E198FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF79A04E5 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:51:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zirakzigil.org Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org ([192.168.1.2]) by localhost (ext.zirakzigil.org [192.168.1.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9whBYps2BbOK for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aurynmob2.giulioferro.it (unknown [192.168.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: auryn@zirakzigil.org) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6847FA04DE for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C86518C.4020700@zirakzigil.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:51:56 +0200 From: Giulio Ferro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100621 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <4C7D04EB.7020205@zirakzigil.org> <201009061107.06347.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <201009071325.42777.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <201009071325.42777.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd + netbeans 6.9 + openjdk6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:52:15 -0000 On 07.09.2010 12:25, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >>> How did you try to build 6.9? from the original source tarball? Original generic zip from netbeans site... > it craches for me as well. just looked a little bit to hs_err_pidxxx.log and gdb /path/to/java java.core to no avail > it puzzles me if this bug should be treated as openjdk/freebsd/netbeans related or all of the above... I suspected that... :-( > > What does your system do with the official netbeans 6.8? > Works good with diablo. Didn't try it with openjdk I couldn't make 6.9 with any version of java 6 in freebsd (sun, diablo, openjdk) Actually I've switched to ubuntu for development... :-( From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 15:01:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A910656B8 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C05F8FC21 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o87F1kH7083338 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:01:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o87F1kRW083337 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:01:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:01:46 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4C7D04EB.7020205@zirakzigil.org> <201009071325.42777.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4C86518C.4020700@zirakzigil.org> In-Reply-To: <4C86518C.4020700@zirakzigil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009071801.46335.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: freebsd + netbeans 6.9 + openjdk6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:01:51 -0000 if i was in your shoes i would try with openjdk7, then independently of the= result i'd file a bug report to the openjdk6 hackers having the FreeBSD openjdk6 m= aintainer a proxy. (now that i look at it the openjdk6 maintainer is this list ;-) =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 07 September 2010 17:51:56 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 G= iulio Ferro =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > On 07.09.2010 12:25, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >=20 > >>> How did you try to build 6.9? from the original source tarball? >=20 > Original generic zip from netbeans site... >=20 > > it craches for me as well. just looked a little bit to hs_err_pidxxx.lo= g and gdb /path/to/java java.core to no avail > > it puzzles me if this bug should be treated as openjdk/freebsd/netbeans= related or all of the above... >=20 > I suspected that... :-( >=20 > > > > What does your system do with the official netbeans 6.8? > > >=20 > Works good with diablo. Didn't try it with openjdk > I couldn't make 6.9 with any version of java 6 in freebsd (sun, diablo,=20 > openjdk) >=20 > Actually I've switched to ubuntu for development... :-( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 03:20:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7D210656D4 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from otacilio.neto@ee.ufcg.edu.br) Received: from na3sys009aog105.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog105.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE4A38FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([209.85.160.182]) by na3sys009aob105.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTIhSlbI6qe1eB2yRzdSOCSCA++ATzh5q@postini.com; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:20:54 PDT Received: by mail-gy0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 4so508994gyg.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.235.9 with SMTP id i9mr1142512anh.218.1284000746116; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.102] ([187.114.194.141]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f22sm983495anh.24.2010.09.08.19.52.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C884BDF.5010406@bsd.com.br> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:52:15 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Otac=EDlio?=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100721 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Farmer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/flexdock beeps during javadoc build X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:20:54 -0000 My system dont beeps. Someone can confirm or say how can reproduce this beeps? On 02/09/2010 21:59, Rob Farmer wrote: > The port devel/flexdock beeps the system speaker about 15-20 times > during the javadoc part of the build. This port builds with ant. Any > idea how to stop this? Google isn't turning up much. > > If you already have the jdk installed this port only takes about a > minute to build, so if someone could take a look it would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 04:13:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB2510656BA for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B09C8FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so950762bwz.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:13:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=f1FZIcPVCPHB/GNMAtANUSH2c+h80IEZ1s7gwWeaojo=; b=Y75k20u1OKFg2ZrkY5PEMSezTIPgRlyR5YscnrjjqHNeGgjI+PpL+TaXnUmKcupC3g umSyNX6Q+laHCA4Va6U14w8WfmsOHnVlT0Ykc6+JU2cAihd3PNPK0s+doacofaJ7FYLr JOs4peEuVlSfzm8r3DHBrOQDpnQ3MY5EchtDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=l+AQHCg0ZUFihIKNHJVl3VgJ74iEGj0lwyfhCs7cuSk/Jc1kBNedrZaJdRhtvIe0xh engF7wzh0ApFcGKw24+CAiM0/AwCr1Hs/Tk/mbHAE+3WsFZXnsc/7Kd943NfoSTD0R3o X8SBXLZPw34L/ccVGsKwkg+Ydls3J86XBDYEk= Received: by 10.204.19.145 with SMTP id a17mr557700bkb.148.1284004130149; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:48:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jules Gilbert Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:48:30 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: I know, this has got to be the worst possible question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:13:57 -0000 I'm trying to put up FreeBSD 8.1 and I want to know *exactly* what procedure to go through, what software should I pre-fetch, etc... Basically, I've put up FBSD several times and never ended up with a working browser with java. I understand that Oracle isn't helping, hey, sometimes I wonder if Sun made the right choice opening up Java. I don't pretend to know the answer to that... I've heard that the FBSD planners have decided to make security important. Good. Do that and the number of installs will increase. But for now I just need to know: a) which browser? I don't need mail, just a browser with java. b) what's the procedure? Is it realistic to expect that these issues are going to be resolved, that things will get easier? From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 05:49:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B2210656D2 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 05:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0608FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 05:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so1096192vws.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.168.12 with SMTP id s12mr72642vcy.240.1284011395104; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.8 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:49:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: <4C884BDF.5010406@bsd.com.br> References: <4C884BDF.5010406@bsd.com.br> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Otac=EDlio?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/flexdock beeps during javadoc build X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:49:56 -0000 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 19:52, Otac=EDlio wro= te: > My system dont beeps. Someone can confirm or say how can reproduce this > beeps? > It was beeping during the javadoc part of the build - either javadoc or ant is causing it. I just was asking because I am sending in an update to this port, and was wondering if anyone knows how to track this down and stop it. Its definitely not critical though. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 17:18:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654B810656BD for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from marvin.chruetertee.ch (marvin.chruetertee.ch [217.150.245.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC86F8FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daedalus.network.local (124-73.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.76.73.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by marvin.chruetertee.ch (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89GetLQ053086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:40:55 GMT (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4C890E19.1040808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:40:57 +0200 From: Beat Gaetzi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100907 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gecko Subject: Request for help: OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:18:24 -0000 Hi, Due to a lot of user request I've started working on a port for the OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin which works with Firefox 3.6. As I never used the Java plugin and I'm not very experienced in the Java world I need some help. Some parts of the port are taken from java/openjdk6 and pkgsrc. The shar file of the current port is available here: http://people.freebsd.org/~beat/patches/icedtea6-plugin.shar I've tested the port on FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 and i386. The plugin was recognized after creating a symlink in ~/.mozilla/plugins/: # ln -s /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ Screenshot of about:plugins in Firefox 3.6: http://tmp.chruetertee.ch/firefox-icedtea.png When I tried to watch a Java applet the browser crashed: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:57) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) So I copied the content of www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect to /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ (This step isn't done by the port yet as I don't know if this is the correct location) set the CLASSPATH environment variable but it crashed again: # mv /usr/ports/www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect/* /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ # setenv CLASSPATH /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ # firefox3 openjdk version "1.6.0" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) OpenJDK Client VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:57) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) Does anyone knows how to fix this problem? There are also some parts (marked with a comment) in the port makefile which needs some review or improvement. Thanks, Beat From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 19:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366BA10656C7; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:00:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <4C890E19.1040808@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4C890E19.1040808@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009091500.15935.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: gecko , Beat Gaetzi Subject: Re: Request for help: OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:00:39 -0000 On Thursday 09 September 2010 12:40 pm, Beat Gaetzi wrote: > Hi, > > Due to a lot of user request I've started working on a port for the > OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin which works with Firefox 3.6. As I > never used the Java plugin and I'm not very experienced in the Java > world I need some help. > > Some parts of the port are taken from java/openjdk6 and pkgsrc. The > shar file of the current port is available here: > http://people.freebsd.org/~beat/patches/icedtea6-plugin.shar > > I've tested the port on FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 and i386. The plugin was > recognized after creating a symlink in ~/.mozilla/plugins/: > # ln -s /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/IcedTeaPlugin.so > ~/.mozilla/plugins/ > > Screenshot of about:plugins in Firefox 3.6: > http://tmp.chruetertee.ch/firefox-icedtea.png > > When I tried to watch a Java applet the browser crashed: > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to > access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer > at > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163 >) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native > Method) > at > sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstru >ctorAccessorImpl.java:57) at > sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Delegatin >gConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at > java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at > java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) > at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) > at > sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) > > So I copied the content of > www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect to > /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ (This step isn't done by the port > yet as I don't know if this is the correct location) set the > CLASSPATH environment variable but it crashed again: > > # mv /usr/ports/www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect/* > /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ > # setenv CLASSPATH /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ > # firefox3 > openjdk version "1.6.0" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) > OpenJDK Client VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to > access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer > at > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163 >) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native > Method) > at > sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstru >ctorAccessorImpl.java:57) at > sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Delegatin >gConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at > java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at > java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) > at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) > at > sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) > at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) > > Does anyone knows how to fix this problem? > > There are also some parts (marked with a comment) in the port > makefile which needs some review or improvement. Wow, I was working on it, too. And I was going to announce it today when I am done cleaning up the ports. :-) You can see some screenshots of mine from here: http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ FYI, you have to apply few patches from IcedTea6 distribution, i.e., patches/extensions/*.patch. Specifically, you have to patch Java Runtime to make NetX working with OpenJDK6. Please see netx.patch. Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 19:24:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462F110656E3; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from marvin.chruetertee.ch (marvin.chruetertee.ch [217.150.245.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52BF8FC16; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daedalus.network.local (124-73.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.76.73.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by marvin.chruetertee.ch (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89JO2LA060512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:24:02 GMT (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4C893454.6050100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:24:04 +0200 From: Beat Gaetzi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100907 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jung-uk Kim References: <4C890E19.1040808@FreeBSD.org> <201009091500.15935.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <201009091500.15935.jkim@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gecko , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Request for help: OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:24:04 -0000 On 09.09.2010 21:00, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Thursday 09 September 2010 12:40 pm, Beat Gaetzi wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Due to a lot of user request I've started working on a port for the >> OpenJDK6 IcedTea Java plugin which works with Firefox 3.6. As I >> never used the Java plugin and I'm not very experienced in the Java >> world I need some help. >> >> Some parts of the port are taken from java/openjdk6 and pkgsrc. The >> shar file of the current port is available here: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~beat/patches/icedtea6-plugin.shar >> >> I've tested the port on FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 and i386. The plugin was >> recognized after creating a symlink in ~/.mozilla/plugins/: >> # ln -s /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/IcedTeaPlugin.so >> ~/.mozilla/plugins/ >> >> Screenshot of about:plugins in Firefox 3.6: >> http://tmp.chruetertee.ch/firefox-icedtea.png >> >> When I tried to watch a Java applet the browser crashed: >> >> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to >> access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class >> sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer >> at >> sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163 >> ) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native >> Method) >> at >> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstru >> ctorAccessorImpl.java:57) at >> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Delegatin >> gConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at >> java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at >> java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) >> at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) >> at >> sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) >> >> So I copied the content of >> www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect to >> /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ (This step isn't done by the port >> yet as I don't know if this is the correct location) set the >> CLASSPATH environment variable but it crashed again: >> >> # mv /usr/ports/www/icedtea6-plugin/work/icedtea6-1.8/liveconnect/* >> /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ >> # setenv CLASSPATH /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/ >> # firefox3 >> openjdk version "1.6.0" >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) >> OpenJDK Client VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) >> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to >> access class sun.applet.AppletMessageHandler from class >> sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer >> at >> sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.(PluginAppletViewer.java:2163 >> ) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native >> Method) >> at >> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstru >> ctorAccessorImpl.java:57) at >> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Delegatin >> gConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45) at >> java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:532) at >> java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:372) >> at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:325) >> at >> sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.(PluginStreamHandler.java:85) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.connect(PluginMain.java:155) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.(PluginMain.java:137) >> at sun.applet.PluginMain.main(PluginMain.java:116) >> >> Does anyone knows how to fix this problem? >> >> There are also some parts (marked with a comment) in the port >> makefile which needs some review or improvement. > > Wow, I was working on it, too. And I was going to announce it today > when I am done cleaning up the ports. :-) You can see some > screenshots of mine from here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ These screenshots looks much better then my exception :) > FYI, you have to apply few patches from IcedTea6 distribution, i.e., > patches/extensions/*.patch. Specifically, you have to patch Java > Runtime to make NetX working with OpenJDK6. Please see netx.patch. I will take a look at this patch and I'm glad to test your port soon. Thanks for working on this! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/150208: [new port] databases/jasperserver: Open Source Java Reporting Library X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:31:32 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is an updated shell archive that includes my previous suggestion in the Makefile in respect to mysql and pgsql variables. I had to move an operation from pre-patch to pre-install, as the tested file in the pre-patch was only present as part of a dependency installation. This has been tested in Tinderbox, as well, and passes cleanly. -jgh --=20 Jason Helfman --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jasperserver.shar.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # jasperserver # jasperserver/Makefile # jasperserver/pkg-descr # jasperserver/distinfo # jasperserver/files # jasperserver/files/pkg-message.in # jasperserver/pkg-plist # echo c - jasperserver mkdir -p jasperserver > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - jasperserver/Makefile sed 's/^X//' >jasperserver/Makefile << '82baef1580c1143a2b99496475536c60' X# New ports collection makefile for: jasperserver X# Date created: 27 August 2010 X# Whom: Jason Helfman X# X# $FreeBSD$ X# X XPORTNAME=3D jasperserver XPORTVERSION=3D 3.5.0 XCATEGORIES=3D databases print java XMASTER_SITES=3D SOURCEFORGE/${PORTNAME}/JasperServer/JasperServer%20${PO= RTVERSION}/ XDISTNAME=3D ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}-src X XMAINTAINER=3D jgh@experts-exchange.com XCOMMENT=3D Open Source Java Reporting Library X XBUILD_DEPENDS=3D mvn:${PORTSDIR}/devel/maven2 X XLICENSE_COMB=3D dual XLICENSE=3D GPLv2 MIT X XSRCDIR=3D ${WRKDIR}/jasperserver-${PORTVERSION}-src XWRKSRC=3D ${WRKDIR}/jasperserver-${PORTVERSION}-src/${PORTNAME}/buildomatic XSQLSRC=3D ${WRKDIR}/jasperserver-${PORTVERSION}-src/${PORTNAME}/buildomati= c/install_resources/sql/ XJS=3D ${WRKDIR}/jasperserver-${PORTVERSION}-src/${PORTNAME} XJSREPO=3D ${JS}-repo X XNO_WRKSUBDIR=3D yes XUSE_JAVA=3D yes XNO_BUILD=3D yes XJAVA_VENDOR?=3D freebsd XJAVA_VERSION?=3D 1.6+ XUSE_ZIP=3D yes XOPTIONS=3D MYSQL "Enable Mysql support" on \ X PGSQL "Enable Postgresql support" off \ X TOMCAT5 "Enable Tomcat 5.x support" on \ X TOMCAT6 "Enable Tomcat 6.x support" off X XSUB_FILES=3D pkg-message XSUB_LIST=3D PORTSDIR=3D${PORTSDIR} PORTNAME=3D${PORTNAME} PORTVERSION=3D${= PORTVERSION} DATABASE=3D${DATABASE} JSHOME=3D${JSHOME} X X.include X X.if defined(WITH_MYSQL) XUSE_MYSQL=3D yes XMYNAME?=3D root XMYPASS?=3D password XDATABASE=3D mysql XPLIST_SUB+=3D JDBC=3D"mysql-connector-java-5.1.5.jar" X.endif X X.if defined(WITH_PGSQL) XUSE_PGSQL=3D yes XPGNAME?=3D postgres XPGPASS?=3D postgres XDATABASE=3D postgresql XPLIST_SUB+=3D JDBC=3D"postgresql-8.1-407.jdbc3.jar" X.endif X X.if defined(WITH_TOMCAT5) XBUILD_DEPENDS+=3D tomcat>=3D5.5.30:${PORTSDIR}/www/tomcat55 XRUN_DEPENDS+=3D tomcat>=3D5.5.30:${PORTSDIR}/www/tomcat55 XAPPHOME?=3D ${LOCALBASE}/tomcat5.5 XJSHOME?=3D ${APPHOME}/webapps/${PORTNAME} XPLIST_SUB+=3D APP_VERSION=3D"tomcat5.5" X.endif X X.if defined(WITH_TOMCAT6) XBUILD_DEPENDS+=3D tomcat>=3D6.0.29:${PORTSDIR}/www/tomcat6 XRUN_DEPENDS+=3D tomcat>=3D6.0.29:${PORTSDIR}/www/tomcat6 XAPPHOME?=3D ${LOCALBASE}/apache-tomcat-6.0 XJSHOME?=3D ${APPHOME}/webapps/${PORTNAME} XPLIST_SUB+=3D APP_VERSION=3D"apache-tomcat-6.0" X.endif X XDBHOST?=3D localhost X XAPP_PROPERTIES=3D ${SRCDIR}/${PORTNAME}/buildomatic/default_master.propert= ies XJS_PROPERTIES=3D ${SRCDIR}/${PORTNAME}/buildomatic/js-build.properties X Xcheck-sanity: X.if ( defined(WITH_MYSQL) && defined(WITH_PGSQL) ) X @${ECHO} You can only define one database server. X exit 1 X.elif ( defined(WITH_TOMCAT5) && defined(WITH_TOMCAT6) ) X @${ECHO} You can only define one application server. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:03:20 -0000 About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. Some questions: Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way to do this. Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting the FreeBSD community. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:43:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863FC10656D8; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:42:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Beat Gaetzi Subject: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:43:15 -0000 Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) screenshots from here: http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ The experimental ports tarball is available from here: http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.bz2 Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. Re-build, re-install, and enjoy! Cheers, Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:46:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3FF1065697; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638CC8FC17; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A7A91272; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.6; tzolkin = 2 Cimi; haab = 19 Mol Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:46:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:02:58 -0400") Message-ID: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:46:37 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. Dangerous road to go down at this point. Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of Java-like features? I think you're describing "everything else already available in production". Plenty of choices. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 22:05:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146571065711; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:04:50 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Beat Gaetzi Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:05:10 -0000 On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) > screenshots from here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ > > The experimental ports tarball is available from here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.bz2 > > Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an > experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. > To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. Re-build, > re-install, and enjoy! And, don't forget "ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/". Just making sure. :-) Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 22:10:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1CD10656B4; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A989C8FC13; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1526386fxm.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AO3T89bygOqYw6y97DrwP58TGak5U3/GqXftFb/ZysM=; b=ju1Qj4rZL6EUjdmb+OS8h9l7rG7uwYSz+nmEFI4KOK9KITcWj4akqqPjx9wruoO6m3 qF/2YRjbRCdF5Jt5AOpY+rZq527bS7KGF2Cb+lRkq+6BXScARbQIDk5yqca3goRqpRAM +DGZHWFYNzzg6cfAJR/hvONhXN4ux8ngAvr4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FHfZNxgcdmMhiT9eTuT/0BRtq2iy8SwCIzbZPAjzksQuHO0Wp2+ImNuvW++tf/EAkT X3h2vqJnqsIMx0j4WCUq2KiWyjSqulyepAHJ72uuSeNASZxZfNnErRH1NeSX8B0cdWqL j4R4ioS04bwgoVCBwvy9fDgb58lMMP/d9MEpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.131 with SMTP id y3mr349011far.9.1284068616222; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:43:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jules Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:10:21 -0000 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jules Gilbert wrote: > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. > Works fine for me as long as you stick with firefox35 > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > I believe the FreeBSD Foundation is still accepting donations. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:34:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADF110656CE; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5E98FC17; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local (lonfw01.namesco.net [195.7.254.100] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8A9Y0ot092170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:34:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C89FB87.1090206@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:33:59 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jules Gilbert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:02 -0000 On 09/09/2010 22:02, Jules Gilbert wrote: > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Looks like you might be in luck the thread here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2010-September/001099.html shows that there are 2 ports of icedtea including a plugin for firefox 3.6 in progress. It looks like the one at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2010-September/008806.html is in a better state at the moment. Vince > Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? > > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 10:38:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCA71065679; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1578FC23; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so2442325bwz.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3vaH7h1zGWS0hSOvdRgwScuZcXn+Tb8I8klfFQ59Ruw=; b=vPP70+KPh4jWcWbfPExhjln1Cou+mDTOiJ4YwOFxoxtL4dxPpwFztqc5fAplWLXAoE PXQpobls+9V5OExXvMHbIQt8j2t+caJTn89M3rIRpHEqee2bUKQfrJ4HB7OD4C3UEaAu /s9IBWp81+08lyBcfIDTKi6tlfn9+F7P/m9p4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OSDBO2J1VGonieRPvScA6IEaT1rzMxAoi7FOpkSgx/6wSb4E3jmHUCuZUBdnFnVjBx jyDZ09AfU7wnI/GgLJ635/GWjod/S7KVe0KeEbwX7Ac3RWL2satFbLfXyKp/+qvTyZgD 4iN/Wme20DYrgUidnuZ57FlgOtgKuxMsznnF8= Received: by 10.204.64.78 with SMTP id d14mr430022bki.63.1284115101194; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> From: Jules Gilbert Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:38:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:23 -0000 Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a browser. I didn't even know that Google and Oracle weren't getting along, I really am out of date. (All I do is code.) But here's the thing: almost no one can make a java enabled browser, and lot's of us need exactly that, java running on our browsers. So obviously this means that something is seriously wrong -- and worse, when I asked "how", no one came back and said "Oh, you obviously didn't install such-and-such a patch, do that and everything will work." No, and worse, the responses are all about possible solutions in the distant not-known-when-and-only-maybe future. I do think we should all get behind this Beat fellow, he's beat@freebsd.org, his work seems closest to bringing up a java-enabled browser, with zero or at least few problems. --jg On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Now an opinion. =A0If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should loo= k > Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, somethin= g > Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? > > That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. =A0Dangerous > road to go down at this point. > > Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of > Java-like features? > > I think you're describing "everything else already available in > production". =A0Plenty of choices. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussi= on > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Fellow Christians!, Read Galatians, chapter three, verse 14. =A0Here Paul documents that Christians have been made part of God's original promise to Abraham, and that, because of Jesus, we are tied to these same promises. But don't for a moment imagine that God is done with the Jews!, no, God is even today working to fulfill every promise he made, even to save every person in Israel -- which God declares will be the case, for he say's that "all Israel will be saved." About this business with Iran... =A0Don't fret. =A0Jeremiah, who probably wrote the most about modern day Iran, advises us, beginning in chapter 34, verse 49, that Iran is going to lose big. =A0Yes, one day both Egypt and Iran, in fact all of south-Asia be a community of Christian nations. =A0(Both Isaiah and Zechariah make similar statements.) =A0In fact Zechariah say's that Gazan's will one day be elected, freely elected by Jews, to high offices in Israel. =A0Imagine that! But as my wife just told me! when I tried this on her, people aren't saved (or even helped,) by knowledge of prophecy, no, real assistance from the God of the Bible comes only one way; =A0By tying oneself to Jesus, by asking to partner with him. =A0He is the basis of help, of love, and change that brings with it God's love and assistance. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 10:59:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43347106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585E18FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8AAxmUU008985 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:59:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8AAxmxW008984 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:59:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:59:47 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101359.47881.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:59:52 -0000 =46or anyone having invested in java in the browser (aka applets) in the la= st 10 years, this thing will definitely come back and bite us. Anyway, Whats the status of the java plugin in firefox 3.6 in the linux wor= ld? You can always run a linux inside FreeBSD's virtualbox. (i am doing it righ= t now and it rocks!!!) =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 13:38:00 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ju= les Gilbert =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I > say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > browser. >=20 > I didn't even know that Google and Oracle weren't getting along, I > really am out of date. (All I do is code.) >=20 > But here's the thing: almost no one can make a java enabled browser, > and lot's of us need exactly that, java running on our browsers. So > obviously this means that something is seriously wrong -- and worse, > when I asked "how", no one came back and said "Oh, you obviously > didn't install such-and-such a patch, do that and everything will > work." No, and worse, the responses are all about possible solutions > in the distant not-known-when-and-only-maybe future. >=20 > I do think we should all get behind this Beat fellow, he's > beat@freebsd.org, his work seems closest to bringing up a java-enabled > browser, with zero or at least few problems. >=20 > --jg >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: > > > > Jules> Now an opinion. =A0If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should l= ook > > Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, someth= ing > > Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > > > You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? > > > > That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. =A0Dangerous > > road to go down at this point. > > > > Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of > > Java-like features? > > > > I think you're describing "everything else already available in > > production". =A0Plenty of choices. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 = 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discus= sion > > >=20 >=20 >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 12:11:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFA91065693 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-java@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A468FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou2DT-0002KL-Dy for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:56:27 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:56:27 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:56:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:56:18 +0200 Lines: 83 Message-ID: References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:11:29 -0000 On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) >> screenshots from here: >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ >> >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.bz2 >> >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an >> experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. >> To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. Re-build, >> re-install, and enjoy! > > And, don't forget "ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so > ~/.mozilla/plugins/". Just making sure. :-) Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized (apparently correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view the page at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml result in the java and the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as if looping: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 49282 ivoras 25 76 0 1018M 103M ucond 3 0:02 249.37% java 49275 ivoras 18 61 0 314M 180M piperd 1 0:26 184.13% firefox-bin This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 about:plugins says: IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) File: IcedTeaPlugin.so Version: The IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) executes Java applets. followed by a table of MIME types for applets handled by Java. Console output of Firefox contains this trace: openjdk version "1.6.0" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources(JNLPClassLoader.java:427) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoader.java:168) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:249) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) ... 2 more Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources(JNLPClassLoader.java:427) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoader.java:168) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:249) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) java.lang.NullPointerException at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:19:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CAE106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7928FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8ADJQeB009583 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8ADJQ8m009582 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:26 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101619.26340.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:19:29 -0000 i have mixed results on 8.1-RELEASE amd64. out the two ancient applets (pre-2005) still in production, i can sucessful= ly run the one of them. =20 I can also run the applet in http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml i dont know if it is some kind of hope but the failing applet also seems to fail on ubuntu (which in turn runs on top of virtualbox in the same Free= BSD box). =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 14:56:18 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Iv= an Voras =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) > >> screenshots from here: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ > >> > >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.bz2 > >> > >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an > >> experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. > >> To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. Re-build, > >> re-install, and enjoy! > > > > And, don't forget "ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so > > ~/.mozilla/plugins/". Just making sure. :-) >=20 > Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. >=20 > The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized (apparently=20 > correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view the page at=20 > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml result in the java and=20 > the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as if looping: >=20 > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU=20 > COMMAND > 49282 ivoras 25 76 0 1018M 103M ucond 3 0:02 249.37% java > 49275 ivoras 18 61 0 314M 180M piperd 1 0:26 184.13%=20 > firefox-bin >=20 > This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 >=20 > about:plugins says: >=20 > IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) >=20 > File: IcedTeaPlugin.so > Version: > The IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) executes=20 > Java applets. >=20 > followed by a table of MIME types for applets handled by Java. >=20 > Console output of Firefox contains this trace: >=20 > openjdk version "1.6.0" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) > net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could= =20 > not initialize applet. > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources(JNLPClas= sLoader.java:427) > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoader.java:= 168) > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.= java:249) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) > ... 2 more > Caused by: > java.lang.NullPointerException > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources(JNLPClas= sLoader.java:427) > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoader.java:= 168) > at=20 > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.= java:249) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > java.lang.NullPointerException > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) > java.lang.NullPointerException > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:46:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433FB1065697; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1978FC14; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB7F919A7; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:46:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:38:00 -0400") Message-ID: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a Jules> browser. And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? Java had its day. Time to move on. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:58:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E9106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0D48FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8ADw5JR009736 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8ADw46J009735 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:58:04 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 16:46:57 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ra= ndal L. Schwartz =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: >=20 > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems!= I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. >=20 > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? >=20 Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those runni= ng them cannot afford rewriting them. its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth using = javascript. PS i have news from the front. The exact successful applets tested on my 8.1-RELEASE amd64 are successful = in Ubuntu i386 as well, and the failing ones, fail on Ubuntu as well. > Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:20:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6EC106566B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) Received: from somware.com (mail.somware.com [74.95.16.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4CA8FC12; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.112] (glacier.argotsoft.com [192.168.3.112]) by somware.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8ADvPWi028534; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.26.0.100708 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 From: Mark Sommer To: , , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Thread-Index: ActQ8BjhvRvLvvGWFUCPCW8l119GWw== In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Disposition-Notification-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Return-Receipt-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.3.103 Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 -0000 On 9/10/10 7:46 AM, "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. > > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? > > Java had its day. Time to move on. That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. ~Mark From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:29:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CDF106564A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C0C8FC0C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 514601A9D; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Mark Sommer References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Mark Sommer's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600") Message-ID: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 -0000 >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer writes: Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until then, we're stuck with Flash. We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good JavaScript. I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:06:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE0D1065694 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E46D8FC1C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8AF6arn010021 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:06:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8AF6afd010020 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:06:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:06:36 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101806.36156.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:06:40 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 17:29:19 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ra= ndal L. Schwartz =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: >=20 > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. >=20 > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) >=20 > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. >=20 > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > then, we're stuck with Flash. >=20 > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > JavaScript. With javascript (and to be honest i do use a lot of ajax in my apps), soone= r or later someone will have to fallback to plain javascript debugging, and thats where he starts to get the feeling that he is moving back to the age, when langua= ges/platforms were unreliable, loosely defined, buggy, unpredictable,.... which is why ja= va in the browser was introduced in the first place. I think the timing with opensourcing java, the oracle acqusition, and the l= atest hype with terms (like web 2.0) which sound buzzy but mean nothing, created a rather peculiar environment w= here many dynamics seem to change but without a clear technological winner (like SUN was in the 90s) which wi= ll show the way. On the extreme opposite end sits adobe Flash, which does everything it is s= upposed to do but it is so closed and "anti-academic" that we shouldn't be even discussin= g it in here ;) Therefore, i dont think that we will see anything close to what applets(or = even flash) used to be. We might see products, (like JQuery as you said, or the tools from Google),= yes, but not technologies. >=20 > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:20:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5484C1065694; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mail.anduin.net (mail.anduin.net [213.225.74.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9A48FC0A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 140-17-9.connect.netcom.no ([89.9.17.140] helo=[10.253.159.55]) by mail.anduin.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4sz-000Lkf-Cn; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:47:31 +0200 References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: =?utf-8?Q?Eirik_=C3=98verby?= Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:47:50 +0200 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Cc: Mark Sommer , "freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-java@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:09 -0000 On 10. sep. 2010, at 16:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote= : >>>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: >=20 > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. >=20 > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) >=20 > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. >=20 > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > then, we're stuck with Flash. >=20 > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > JavaScript. >=20 > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. You are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that many still NEED Java su= pport in their browsers - and not of their own choice. Banks, insurances, di= gital signature services etc. Still frequently use Java as carrier for their= services. Often this cannot be changed easily as such organizations have lo= ng turn-around times and make investments in the long term.=20 Java is still very much alive, and until html5 can validate and run signed c= ode it'll stay that way even on the client. And that is just one of the reas= ons/scenarios.=20 I'm not using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm sure i= t would be a great choice in an ideal world but we are unfortunately living i= n a real one. So either one takes the time to implement what people _need_ i= n addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop can as well= be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for servers, where it alrea= dy excels.=20 /Eirik >=20 > --=20 > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 009= 5 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussio= n > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:37:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC59106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7728FC1B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8AFbVCC010250 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:37:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8AFbU94010249 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:37:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:37:30 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009101837.30844.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:37:33 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Friday 10 September 2010 17:47:50 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Ei= rik =C3=98verby =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > On 10. sep. 2010, at 16:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wr= ote: >=20 > >>>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: > >=20 > > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. > >=20 > > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) > >=20 > > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. > >=20 > > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > > then, we're stuck with Flash. > >=20 > > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > > JavaScript. > >=20 > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 > You are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that many still NEED Java= support in their browsers - and not of their own choice. Banks, insurances= , digital signature services etc. Still frequently use Java as carrier for = their services. Often this cannot be changed easily as such organizations h= ave long turn-around times and make investments in the long term.=20 >=20 > Java is still very much alive, and until html5 can validate and run signe= d code it'll stay that way even on the client. And that is just one of the = reasons/scenarios.=20 >=20 > I'm not using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm su= re it would be a great choice in an ideal world but we are unfortunately li= ving in a real one. So either one takes the time to implement what people _= need_ in addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop can= as well be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for servers, where= it already excels.=20 Point is that FreeBSD is just a touch away from rocking in the desktop aren= a as well. Alright i took me (partially) a week (with ubuntu it would have been just 1= =2D2 hours) to finally build an ultra-modern (KDE4.5)=20 environemt in my new box (with flash10 + firefox 3.6 + icedtead 1.6 browser= plugin + virtualbox/ubuntu) but the point is that the overall=20 experience is much better with FreeBSD. Given the extra time needed to debug, report bugs, fix bugs, etc.. the end = result is really good! >=20 > /Eirik >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 = 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discus= sion > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:52:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3A1065672; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CC28FC13; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so2768282bwz.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PYRcB9zHTSFLKkedWdf+hyDHBu8q57oRzKN6qcEIU3c=; b=fnPFyzmUmxseMbqVfAqA3w9I1TTrutxhsm7pxEBMFLIAwtkljoTwKRLlFcovH1QsMO omKTdBv6l45wUqXzYb5ETkRq+Y7QTSdqZgd81SCDPacE9pjjEFuT8FGS6O8O1N4patcN H1fL4bafq+Jb8EtjZqPVfVR9mO125vcpATDnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VTxpl02uqSE1MTxMWYCkYAOYIMnnhFiaBKVic0rpRQsoUK0sXNvrAkJGJrFROtlzmJ CAvvniCzdqR4Vopcy82miObWW4zZhGR3L/5QDs52BFmNG8bhwxAU4QZm/6xL+oodWGkZ TAG1qKNQocCSxsRhTHPV6Fm0BusFo1KvolYkk= Received: by 10.204.59.9 with SMTP id j9mr642775bkh.150.1284132523575; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecs ([213.8.162.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d27sm2094036bku.22.2010.09.10.08.28.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c8a4eaa.5b8bcc0a.7880.62d3@mx.google.com> From: four.harrisons@googlemail.com To: ltning@anduin.net, merlyn@stonehenge.com Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:24:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: msommer@somware.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:09 -0000 -----------------------------=0D=0AFrom:=09"Eirik =C3=98verby" =0D=0ASubject:=09Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...=0D= =0ADate:=09=0910th September 2010 16:20=0D=0A=0D=0AOn 10. sep. 2010, at 1= 6:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0A>>>>>>= "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes:=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A>= Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5.=0D= =0A> Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across=0D= =0A> Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly.= =0D=0A> Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser.=0D= =0A>=20=0D=0A> Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (F= lash too.)=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> There are darn few things either of these do = that a good modern=0D=0A> cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do= instead.=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes a= s well. And yes, until=0D=0A> then, we're stuck with Flash.=0D=0A>=20=0D= =0A> We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good=0D=0A= > JavaScript.=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to mov= e on.=0D=0A=0D=0AYou are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that man= y still NEED Java support in their browsers - and not of their own choice= =2E Banks, insurances, digital signature services etc. Still frequently u= se Java as carrier for their services. Often this cannot be changed easil= y as such organizations have long turn-around times and make investments = in the long term.=20=0D=0A=0D=0AJava is still very much alive, and until = html5 can validate and run signed code it'll stay that way even on the cl= ient. And that is just one of the reasons/scenarios.=20=0D=0A=0D=0AI'm no= t using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm sure it = would be a great choice in an ideal world but we are unfortunately living= in a real one. So either one takes the time to implement what people _ne= ed_ in addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop can= as well be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for servers, whe= re it already excels.=20=0D=0A=0D=0A/Eirik=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AI've been run= ning FreeBSD as my sole desktop since 5.2.1. I bank and shop online. I do= not have either Java or Flash installed. I have yet to find any function= ality missing because of the lack of Java. Some sites make accessing them= difficult without Flash, but I consider that their problem and move on.=0D= =0A=0D=0AFreeBSD isn't just good for servers.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0APeter Harr= ison=0D=0Awww.4harrisons.blogspot.com=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A>=20=0D= =0A> --=20=0D=0A> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, In= c. - +1 503 777 0095=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writi= ng, Comedy, etc. etc.=0D=0A> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for S= malltalk and Seaside discussion=0D=0A> __________________________________= _____________=0D=0A> freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list=0D=0A> http://= lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java=0D=0A> To unsubscribe, se= nd any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A____= ___________________________________________=0D=0Afreebsd-questions@freebs= d.org mailing list=0D=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd= -questions=0D=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:44:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF926106566B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:44:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101619.26340.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <201009101619.26340.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201009101444.22242.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:44:32 -0000 On Friday 10 September 2010 09:19 am, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > i have mixed results on 8.1-RELEASE amd64. > out the two ancient applets (pre-2005) still in production, i can > sucessfully run the one of them. I can also run the applet in > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml IcedTea plugin is not 100% compatible with Sun/Oracle's yet. You may find some similar PRs from here: http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/ > i dont know if it is some kind of hope but the failing applet also > seems to fail on ubuntu (which in turn runs on top of virtualbox in > the same FreeBSD box). If Ubuntu uses IcedTea plugin and the same applet fails there, then we should fail, too. ;-) Thanks for the report! Jung-uk Kim > Στις Friday 10 September 2010 14:56:18 ο/η Ivan Voras έγÏαψε: > > On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) > > >> screenshots from here: > > >> > > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ > > >> > > >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: > > >> > > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar > > >>.bz2 > > >> > > >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an > > >> experimental and unofficial software from > > >> icedtea.classpath.org. To enable it, run "make config" and > > >> select "WEB" option. Re-build, re-install, and enjoy! > > > > > > And, don't forget "ln -s > > > /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so > > > ~/.mozilla/plugins/". Just making sure. :-) > > > > Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. > > > > The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized > > (apparently correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view the > > page at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml result in > > the java and the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as if > > looping: > > > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME > > WCPU COMMAND > > 49282 ivoras 25 76 0 1018M 103M ucond 3 0:02 > > 249.37% java 49275 ivoras 18 61 0 314M 180M piperd > > 1 0:26 184.13% firefox-bin > > > > This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 > > > > about:plugins says: > > > > IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) > > > > File: IcedTeaPlugin.so > > Version: > > The IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using OpenJDK6 b20) > > executes Java applets. > > > > followed by a table of MIME types for applets handled by Java. > > > > Console output of Firefox contains this trace: > > > > openjdk version "1.6.0" > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization > > Error: Could not initialize applet. > > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) > > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) > > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > > Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException > > at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources( > >JNLPClassLoader.java:427) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoad > >er.java:168) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClas > >sLoader.java:249) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) ... > > 2 more > > Caused by: > > java.lang.NullPointerException > > at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources( > >JNLPClassLoader.java:427) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.(JNLPClassLoad > >er.java:168) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClas > >sLoader.java:249) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:575) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at > > net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > > java.lang.NullPointerException > > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) > > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) > > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) > > java.lang.NullPointerException > > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) > > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:46:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D911065675; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:46:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:46:51 -0000 On Friday 10 September 2010 07:56 am, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) > >> screenshots from here: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ > >> > >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.b > >>z2 > >> > >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an > >> experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. > >> To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. > >> Re-build, re-install, and enjoy! > > > > And, don't forget "ln -s > > /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so > > ~/.mozilla/plugins/". Just making sure. :-) > > Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. > > The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized (apparently > correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view the page at > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml result in the java > and the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as if looping: > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME > WCPU COMMAND > 49282 ivoras 25 76 0 1018M 103M ucond 3 0:02 > 249.37% java 49275 ivoras 18 61 0 314M 180M piperd 1 > 0:26 184.13% firefox-bin > > This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 --- >8 --- SNIP!!! --- >8 --- Can you please update all of your ports and re-test? Especially, libxul and Firefox versions are very important. Thanks, Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:58:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2402106566B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C7E8FC14; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1184791gwb.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Eg+M0reRVZl77CFm2/+gSvipy1hikDSlm6VoWk/A1D0=; b=Cza+B0pGnWMt/aXndilPfXwJfR8VIMPcTLB3A5FS8MRnfXUxjElgKnnWfX744xHrpc FP7213BjadqW6xo2INqmG5ytzJHdmYYnhU1phWNjZIWR3wV5AmHiGRktk5VYGwg2/c9R w9BiBfzviCe55ZCDhZoy7HYhbnDviVU0ZnV0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SZp4vLCrvimgHaR4YZ1Lg5UoJi1IeHe8iKtve7sovbmjfZWV84pKJhGZc+FH+0iZU7 laH1PNmYvdTaCxsIZEB5XF8NCA5PMOW1t0/0w9GoGnea+HPYjVyKXZnS+gTdlnKJJmJM vqlCACMsPEIheTWA4jHVefUBkqrF0onOMKHBE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.101.15 with SMTP id y15mr891352agb.143.1284143300758; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.197.76 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:58:56 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 06:46, Randal L. Schwartz w= rote: >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. =C2=A0I'm not a Java developer, not a langu= age > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. =C2=A0But folks, we got prob= lems! =C2=A0I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. > > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". =C2=A0We needed Java to run = in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. =C2=A0But wi= th > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? > > Java had its day. =C2=A0Time to move on. Why Java? I've worked with several SSL VPNs (SonicWall, Juniper, Aventail) for $WORK, and they all require a java-enabled browser - so unless you're suggesting that DHTML and HTML5 can replace that, I need a java-enabled browser. Aside from that, there are some really nice apps written in Java - including Data Crow, which is a pretty decent cataloging utility for my books and movies and such, and I haven't seen anything nearly as good as that written in a cross-platform language, so that I can move it between my FreeBSD machine and my family's Windows machines. Kurt From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 20:59:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDFB1065712; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624D38FC18; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2024732qwg.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QGvFltU8tqeX0ST60VpLDUvj1ts6AZ+Ms9xGx666mX0=; b=N1HpRkvbUWtd9JNQK2QITkJ+uAGcMiGHjxyYpnt8RL6H0zz93wHRA/zfnX8iQ2S4Ox K8UQUlHhVX/GTwvFzkDLphkbRMUc+xCqSfI110lClJIoBr0pOaTczzrFZbuPQmh38kfw qDeRKyTOUEyWJxwGtK2Z4yBrmbeQE3M2yJjvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=kytbvS09ss1nz9Y2MJGt3WcoOJEP7GH21IqhVxjsk46R3Z39xWH4pA1n3hx+0C7IQI nf9KC1Nfz+gLemR/3ILBdIqEy1RXIWC+U1pQwD22OqJvTZFiTABacwXINmHm6Dp/hwTz kYA6oSJbwajNBqZsfYKCloGsETUXsuUlRW2oQ= Received: by 10.224.54.143 with SMTP id q15mr762731qag.69.1284152008117; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.188.204 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:53:08 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4CHJ1BMoCTrPnjceZYXVeQFrzhw Message-ID: To: Jung-uk Kim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:59:02 -0000 On 10 September 2010 22:46, Ivan Voras wrote: > I've updated nspr, firefox and libxul before reinstalling your openjdk > port, and now it breaks a little differently: The messages from the last post were interlaced with non-java problems, here are the messages generated only by java (from a different run, different applet): openjdk version "1.6.0" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) ... 2 more Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) java.lang.NullPointerException at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization timeout at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:637) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.java:270) at sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorker.java:82) java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to handle message: handle 52433814 for instance 1 at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:660) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.java:270) at sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorker.java:82) Caused by: java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization timeout at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:637) ... 2 more From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 21:18:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99F81065670; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7148FC08; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so8287930qyk.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Aqyu3waTTN75ORgbaVBwPTLmvK/fDA6zp9zHk2vnPFQ=; b=RnFyx3jcHawke3FuJISZMYTU7AyUXiw3ht6Tv48Zx7el/HS7oM+Ym6LlWJc8wolwnp dnI9wT/8Y3lD3vB2GvqpWWxTX94UdXrbX+ZVnh7qhr2W3PWAbkEMt0oRs3GXTVZiWIrb vd28ui3UH0nJpjplue78m28oVbJ+JrGvBTip8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=v+bvu29g05xD8nfndlW0GxTKBSvEWWGtTLXXUz0leb/Vjv3vp+O9MOaGtyu+uj0BrG Y6AE6HqjiV+HtuRddSROdFzDsas43DBEvGyw9HbnNk9Q2OFuhX58oKwnrHpXKqbtywbJ K47Xrzk+Vl//A9dLp6W98grg9btH1TsVeEvkI= Received: by 10.229.213.199 with SMTP id gx7mr1122605qcb.141.1284151607251; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.188.204 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009091804.57797.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:46:27 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nsYWVtX0XbayoPeKG5NGsVWzkig Message-ID: To: Jung-uk Kim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:18:10 -0000 On 10 September 2010 20:46, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Friday 10 September 2010 07:56 am, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: >> > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: >> >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) >> >> screenshots from here: >> >> >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ >> >> >> >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: >> >> >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.tar.b >> >>z2 >> >> >> >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an >> >> experimental and unofficial software from icedtea.classpath.org. >> >> To enable it, run "make config" and select "WEB" option. >> >> Re-build, re-install, and enjoy! >> > >> > And, don't forget "ln -s >> > /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so >> > ~/.mozilla/plugins/". =C2=A0Just making sure. :-) >> >> Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. >> >> The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized (apparently >> correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view the page at >> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml result in the java >> and the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as if looping: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0PID USERNAME =C2=A0 =C2=A0THR PRI NICE =C2=A0 SIZE =C2=A0 = =C2=A0RES STATE =C2=A0 C =C2=A0 TIME >> WCPU COMMAND >> 49282 ivoras =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 25 =C2=A076 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A01018M= =C2=A0 103M ucond =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:02 >> 249.37% java 49275 ivoras =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 18 =C2=A061 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= 0 =C2=A0 314M =C2=A0 180M piperd =C2=A01 >> =C2=A0 0:26 184.13% firefox-bin >> >> This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 > > --- >8 --- SNIP!!! --- >8 --- > > Can you please update all of your ports and re-test? =C2=A0Especially, > libxul and Firefox versions are very important. It didn't work. I've updated nspr, firefox and libxul before reinstalling your openjdk port, and now it breaks a little differently: (process:82994): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() openjdk version "1.6.0" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) ... 2 more Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) java.lang.NullPointerException at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) java.lang.NullPointerException at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization timeout at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:637= ) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.java:2= 70) at sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorker.ja= va:82) java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to handle message: handle 29366253 for instance 1 at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:660= ) at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.java:2= 70) at sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorker.ja= va:82) Caused by: java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization timeout at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:637= ) ... 2 more Error: Unable to fetch applet instance id from Java side. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 21:47:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E79106566C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:46:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201009101746.52045.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:47:07 -0000 On Friday 10 September 2010 04:46 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 10 September 2010 20:46, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > On Friday 10 September 2010 07:56 am, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> On 09/10/10 00:04, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > >> > On Thursday 09 September 2010 05:42 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > >> >> Finally, we have the hybrid and you can see some (updated) > >> >> screenshots from here: > >> >> > >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/screenshots/ > >> >> > >> >> The experimental ports tarball is available from here: > >> >> > >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/icedtea/openjdk6-icedteanp.ta > >> >>r.b z2 > >> >> > >> >> Note the plugin is turned off by default because it is an > >> >> experimental and unofficial software from > >> >> icedtea.classpath.org. To enable it, run "make config" and > >> >> select "WEB" option. Re-build, re-install, and enjoy! > >> > > >> > And, don't forget "ln -s > >> > /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so > >> > ~/.mozilla/plugins/".  Just making sure. :-) > >> > >> Hmmm, it doesn't work for me. > >> > >> The port builds and installs, and it's even recognized > >> (apparently correctly) in about:plugins, but attempts to view > >> the page at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml > >> result in the java and the browser hanging, eating CPU cycles as > >> if looping: > >> > >>    PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE   C   TIME > >> WCPU COMMAND > >> 49282 ivoras       25  76    0  1018M   103M ucond   3   0:02 > >> 249.37% java 49275 ivoras       18  61    0   314M   180M piperd > >>  1 0:26 184.13% firefox-bin > >> > >> This is 8-STABLE, amd64, Firefox 3.6.3 > > > > --- >8 --- SNIP!!! --- >8 --- > > > > Can you please update all of your ports and re-test?  Especially, > > libxul and Firefox versions are very important. > > It didn't work. > > I've updated nspr, firefox and libxul before reinstalling your > openjdk port, and now it breaks a little differently: All applets or some applets? Can you test some trivial applets? Something like the following: file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/jfc/SwingApplet/SwingApplet.html > (process:82994): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() Although it is a different problem, I know what it is. :-) Please try www/nspluginwrapper-devel instead of www/nspluginwrapper: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/nspluginwrapper-devel/ > openjdk version "1.6.0" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) > net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: > Could not initialize applet. > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:604) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) > ... 2 more > Caused by: > java.lang.NullPointerException > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:588) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:548) > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:729) > java.lang.NullPointerException > at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:99) > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380) > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) > java.lang.NullPointerException > at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:430) > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization timeout > at > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java >:637) at > sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.ja >va:270) at > sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorke >r.java:82) java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to handle message: > handle 29366253 for instance 1 > at > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java >:660) at > sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.ja >va:270) at > sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorke >r.java:82) Caused by: java.lang.Exception: Applet initialization > timeout at > sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java >:637) ... 2 more > Error: Unable to fetch applet instance id from Java side. Do you see /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-* directory, something like this? %ls -dl /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-jkim/ drwx------ 2 jkim wheel 1536 Sep 9 18:32 /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-jkim/ Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 22:13:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFAF106567A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D9E8FC0C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so47917qyk.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qMVzBg+LxomehOUp2N6OvwFtoi5RzhmJZ1+DKExNGRs=; b=Rg/ZdoCjjwSLO3iCMh4dQ94hfdBtmcrSY/KmlhE/MxffHUAcCWtkb8WSwdMouIQiGI McqBgwxM9XUw1Sxvzqrjxx2yrAd7PNx9DUJplHsmvg5P8XXZdY3qrie8LUf51c2p2FxB H3BWSYM1fj+M9GXPRXoKpb+ARypXKTnzCpyMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TDF2D/o50I3NjlIVLOm0vZu3xbQJxqBPnQ7U02dQu14+XzkycCbsHLjvlIUloiWgIB 8mlxy/PZ6QDYGpLL4UW+LV8wqTnNwPLT4tka2DOww0tnTwumNJJ14Sitm8tatMMKsAHF R6LaFrCAgUt86Q62YnpXLwKsWmVCuZnATz/6U= Received: by 10.224.28.211 with SMTP id n19mr762157qac.318.1284156838112; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.188.204 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:13:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009101746.52045.jkim@FreeBSD.org> References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101446.40030.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101746.52045.jkim@FreeBSD.org> From: Ivan Voras Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:13:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lgs6qLO3enLv6P-xitOerWFG2TA Message-ID: To: Jung-uk Kim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:13:59 -0000 On 10 September 2010 23:46, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > All applets or some applets? =C2=A0Can you test some trivial applets? > Something like the following: > > file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/jfc/SwingApplet/SwingApplet.html Surprisingly, yes I can. But I cannot start for example this one: http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.html And even with the simple applet that works I get ridiculous CPU usage of firefox: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMM= AND 647 ivoras 15 44 0 228M 94320K ucond 5 1:58 268.95% firefox-bin >> (process:82994): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Using the fallback 'C' locale. >> *** NSPlugin Viewer =C2=A0*** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (> variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > > Although it is a different problem, I know what it is. :-) > > Please try www/nspluginwrapper-devel instead of www/nspluginwrapper: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/nspluginwrapper-devel/ This makes firefox crash with the output: betelgeuse:~> firefox3 (process:98515): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: NPN_GetValue() wait for reply: Connection c= losed *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING:(/home/jkim/new/a/nspluginwrapper-1.3.0/src/npw-viewer.c:1136):invo= ke_NPN_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(g_rpc_connection)) Abort trap (core dumped) I had to reinstall the old one before it works again. It still produces these error messages but it doesn't crash: (process:592): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() (for what it's worth, my LOCALE is hr_HR.UTF-8). >> openjdk version "1.6.0" >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) >> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) >> net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: >> Could not initialize applet. > Do you see /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-* directory, something like this? > > %ls -dl /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-jkim/ > drwx------ =C2=A02 jkim =C2=A0wheel =C2=A01536 Sep =C2=A09 18:32 /var/tmp= /icedteaplugin-jkim/ Yes, it contains some pipes: betelgeuse:/var/tmp/icedteaplugin-ivoras> ll total 0 prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:10 543-icedteanp-appletviewer-to-plugin| prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:10 543-icedteanp-plugin-to-appletviewer| prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:11 647-icedteanp-appletviewer-to-plugin| prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:11 647-icedteanp-plugin-to-appletviewer| From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 22:50:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571CA106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@rix.kiwi-computer.com) Received: from rix.kiwi-computer.com (66-191-70-202.static.stcd.mn.charter.com [66.191.70.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE5458FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29677 invoked by uid 2000); 10 Sep 2010 22:23:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:23:31 -0500 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Achilleas Mantzios Message-ID: <20100910222331.GA29252@rix.kiwi-computer.com> References: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd2009@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:13 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 04:58:04PM +0300, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those running them cannot afford rewriting them. > its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth using javascript. Javascript doesn't provide everything that Java does, for example: threads, socket connections, audio, file system access, native integration, etc. Also although some implementations of javascript are quite fast, Java still outperforms them for most operations. Also, DOM manipulation is terribly slow compared to Swing even. Someone else wrote: > > Java had its day. Time to move on. HTML5 can't do many of those things either. Flash at least gives you all of that except native integrations (which is unimportant for browsers). Flash and Java won't go away until all of those problems are solved by other means. HTML5 is *not* the final solution for the web by any means. Although, I'd take h.264 support any day over applets. =) -- Rick C. Petty From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 23:00:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D408B106566C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:00:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101746.52045.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201009101900.37004.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:00:51 -0000 On Friday 10 September 2010 06:13 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 10 September 2010 23:46, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > All applets or some applets?  Can you test some trivial applets? > > Something like the following: > > > > file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/jfc/SwingApplet/SwingApplet.html > > Surprisingly, yes I can. Good. > But I cannot start for example this one: > > http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.h >tml Probably you want to test it locally: file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.html BTW, IcedTea plugin is not 100% compatible with Sun/Oracle's. Your mileage may vary. ;-) > And even with the simple applet that works I get ridiculous CPU > usage of firefox: > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME > WCPU COMMAND 647 ivoras 15 44 0 228M 94320K ucond 5 > 1:58 268.95% firefox-bin Yes, I know. firefox-bin process gets stuck at ucond state and ktrace shows it's doing somthing weird like this: ... 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x11,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000005 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x12,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000001 RET _umtx_op 0 22820 firefox-bin 0.000006 RET _umtx_op 0 22820 firefox-bin 0.000006 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000005 RET _umtx_op 0 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000004 RET _umtx_op 0 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 RET _umtx_op 0 22820 firefox-bin 0.000004 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x12,0,0,0) ... I am not sure why it happens but my guess is the plugin may mis-handle mutexes. This is not my department, unfortunately. :-( > >> (process:82994): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C > >> library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. > >> *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 > >> () in NPN_GetValue() > > > > Although it is a different problem, I know what it is. :-) > > > > Please try www/nspluginwrapper-devel instead of > > www/nspluginwrapper: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/nspluginwrapper-d > >evel/ > > This makes firefox crash with the output: > > betelgeuse:~> firefox3 > (process:98515): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: NPN_GetValue() wait for reply: > Connection closed *** NSPlugin Viewer *** > WARNING:(/home/jkim/new/a/nspluginwrapper-1.3.0/src/npw-viewer.c:11 >36):invoke_NPN_GetValue: assertion failed: > (rpc_method_invoke_possible(g_rpc_connection)) Abort trap (core > dumped) It looks like a wrapper/viewer version mis-match. Did you re-install the wrappers in ~/.mozilla/plugins/? "nspluginwrapper -l" should print something like this: /home/jkim/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so Plugin viewer: /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer Wrapper version string: 1.3.0 Note the wrapper version string is "1.3.0". > I had to reinstall the old one before it works again. It still > produces these error messages but it doesn't crash: > > (process:592): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() > *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ( variable>) in NPN_GetValue() It's just annoying, I know. > (for what it's worth, my LOCALE is hr_HR.UTF-8). > > >> openjdk version "1.6.0" > >> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b20) > >> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode) > >> net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization > >> Error: Could not initialize applet. > > > > Do you see /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-* directory, something like > > this? > > > > %ls -dl /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-jkim/ > > drwx------  2 jkim  wheel  1536 Sep  9 18:32 > > /var/tmp/icedteaplugin-jkim/ > > Yes, it contains some pipes: > > betelgeuse:/var/tmp/icedteaplugin-ivoras> ll > total 0 > prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:10 > 543-icedteanp-appletviewer-to-plugin| > prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:10 > 543-icedteanp-plugin-to-appletviewer| > prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:11 > 647-icedteanp-appletviewer-to-plugin| > prw------- 1 ivoras wheel 0 Sep 11 00:11 > 647-icedteanp-plugin-to-appletviewer| They look correct. Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 23:32:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73501065675; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D41A8FC1B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2141713qwg.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:32:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JtO26SfZf02SNaqiRABsIHstvoKZ+e/b5h8ev7TP5aA=; b=otocgxG6YVVnGi6i2d8dzKT/PNpccdg7NrkiY7WQXbnBesDiLrcPAVbMOb4xlvHozq Hb1oRigaQaIIFzTmnB/5JXvkn60yQFzwdsE200vtH4Ag2VUE/TZFjrT4LeosvJu8j0ni 1vMfu3rxZ1f95eEkqXj0l4P/hsL9WWfMyZj7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vx/tUU9qRwgGu/Bwa+/nrwU3Ym+/nwaJ+G5pfyNSIvCI/P2tqstlBrLIFS7Kz0NdPh OWS4GrHpFlKFhMVtp38S4tz6f8tmqjolKFQQu/o+Qx9JcAyi2JJcsonCuuAxNYXIfbms i+bA4TA0iYVSksB/Rardfy/aHoo9GSi6hlf6A= Received: by 10.229.224.148 with SMTP id io20mr1261135qcb.88.1284161558143; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:32:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.188.204 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:32:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009101900.37004.jkim@FreeBSD.org> References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101746.52045.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101900.37004.jkim@FreeBSD.org> From: Ivan Voras Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:32:17 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GeTlbdqIEr0xN8jvi13RJF6lKEc Message-ID: To: Jung-uk Kim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:32:44 -0000 On 11 September 2010 01:00, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Friday 10 September 2010 06:13 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: >> But I cannot start for example this one: >> >> http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.h >>tml > > Probably you want to test it locally: > > file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.html Yes, the local copy works. So it is just failing to load applets over the network? Could this be some convoluted Java security problem? > BTW, IcedTea plugin is not 100% compatible with Sun/Oracle's. =C2=A0Your = mileage may vary. ;-) But the underlying Java is OpenJDK, right? >> And even with the simple applet that works I get ridiculous CPU >> usage of firefox: >> >> =C2=A0 PID USERNAME =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0THR PRI NICE =C2=A0 SIZE =C2=A0 = =C2=A0RES STATE =C2=A0 C =C2=A0 TIME >> WCPU COMMAND 647 ivoras =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 15 =C2=A044 =C2=A0 = =C2=A00 =C2=A0 228M 94320K ucond =C2=A0 5 >> =C2=A0 1:58 268.95% firefox-bin > > Yes, I know. =C2=A0firefox-bin process gets stuck at ucond state and ktra= ce shows it's doing somthing weird like this: > > ... > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x11,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000005 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x12,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000001 RET =C2=A0 _umtx_op 0 > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000006 RET =C2=A0 _umtx_op 0 > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000006 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000005 RET =C2=A0 _umtx_op 0 > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000004 RET =C2=A0 _umtx_op 0 > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000003 RET =C2=A0 _umtx_op 0 > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000004 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0= ,0) > =C2=A022820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL =C2=A0_umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x12,0,0= ,0) > ... > > I am not sure why it happens but my guess is the plugin may mis-handle mu= texes. =C2=A0This is not my department, unfortunately. :-( Ok, so I'll file this under "known problem" :) >> betelgeuse:~> firefox3 >> (process:98515): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Using the fallback 'C' locale. >> *** NSPlugin Viewer =C2=A0*** ERROR: NPN_GetValue() wait for reply: >> Connection closed *** NSPlugin Viewer =C2=A0*** >> WARNING:(/home/jkim/new/a/nspluginwrapper-1.3.0/src/npw-viewer.c:11 >>36):invoke_NPN_GetValue: assertion failed: >> (rpc_method_invoke_possible(g_rpc_connection)) Abort trap (core >> dumped) > > It looks like a wrapper/viewer version mis-match. =C2=A0Did you re-instal= l > the wrappers in ~/.mozilla/plugins/? =C2=A0"nspluginwrapper -l" should > print something like this: > > /home/jkim/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so > =C2=A0Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflas= hplayer.so > =C2=A0Plugin viewer: /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer > =C2=A0Wrapper version string: 1.3.0 > > Note the wrapper version string is "1.3.0". Ok, I've fixed it. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 00:07:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D99B106566C; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:06:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201009091743.01109.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201009101900.37004.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <201009101900.37004.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201009102007.01427.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea6 Mozilla plugin with OpenJDK6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:07:11 -0000 On Friday 10 September 2010 07:00 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Friday 10 September 2010 06:13 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: > > On 10 September 2010 23:46, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > > All applets or some applets?  Can you test some trivial > > > applets? Something like the following: > > > > > > file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/jfc/SwingApplet/SwingApplet.htm > > >l > > > > Surprisingly, yes I can. > > Good. > > > But I cannot start for example this one: > > > > http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1 > >.h tml > > Probably you want to test it locally: > > file:///usr/local/openjdk6/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.html > > BTW, IcedTea plugin is not 100% compatible with Sun/Oracle's. Your > mileage may vary. ;-) > > > And even with the simple applet that works I get ridiculous CPU > > usage of firefox: > > > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME > > WCPU COMMAND 647 ivoras 15 44 0 228M 94320K ucond > > 5 1:58 268.95% firefox-bin > > Yes, I know. firefox-bin process gets stuck at ucond state and > ktrace shows it's doing somthing weird like this: > > ... > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x11,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000005 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d50c0,0x12,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000001 RET _umtx_op 0 > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000006 RET _umtx_op 0 > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000006 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000005 RET _umtx_op 0 > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000004 RET _umtx_op 0 > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 RET _umtx_op 0 > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000004 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x11,0,0,0) > 22820 firefox-bin 0.000003 CALL _umtx_op(0x80d4d4040,0x12,0,0,0) > ... > > I am not sure why it happens but my guess is the plugin may > mis-handle mutexes. This is not my department, unfortunately. :-( I *think* there are some mutexes in the plugin that are not initialized properly and they are causing this weird behaviour. %grep pthread_mutex_t * IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.cc:pthread_mutex_t message_queue_mutex = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER; IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.cc:pthread_mutex_t syn_write_mutex = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER; IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.cc: pthread_mutex_t wait_mutex = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER; // This is needed for API compat. and is unused IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.h:static pthread_mutex_t tc_mutex = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER; IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.h:extern pthread_mutex_t message_queue_mutex; IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.h:extern pthread_mutex_t syn_write_mutex; IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc:pthread_mutex_t IcedTeaPluginUtilities::reference_mutex = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER; IcedTeaPluginUtils.h: static pthread_mutex_t reference_mutex; IcedTeaPluginUtils.h: pthread_mutex_t msg_queue_mutex; IcedTeaPluginUtils.h: pthread_mutex_t subscriber_mutex; %grep pthread_mutex_init * IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc: ret = pthread_mutex_init(&subscriber_mutex, NULL); IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc: ret = pthread_mutex_init(&msg_queue_mutex, NULL); %grep pthread_mutex_destroy * IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc: ret = pthread_mutex_destroy(&subscriber_mutex); IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc: ret = pthread_mutex_destroy(&msg_queue_mutex); 5 mutexes are declared and *used* but only two are initialized. I don't know how Linux works without pthread_mutex_init(). :-/ Jung-uk Kim From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 01:23:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60BE106566B; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD23C8FC0C; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC86B1C29; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> (Jason C. Wells's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:20:10 -0700") Message-ID: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mark Sommer , freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:35 -0000 >>>>> "Jason" == Jason C Wells writes: Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >> >> Jason> Java is not just for browsers. Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 01:48:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4A9106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E72D8FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31864 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2010 01:20:10 -0000 Received: from g1.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Sep 2010 01:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:20:10 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:05:21 +0000 Cc: Mark Sommer , freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:48:12 -0000 On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > Java is not just for browsers. Regards, Jason C. Wells From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 02:10:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2281106566C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spatula@spatula.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BDE8FC14 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3211567iwn.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:10:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.141 with SMTP id h13mr1984380ibv.1.1284169548610; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: spatula@spatula.net Received: by 10.231.12.140 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:45:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:45:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GJkGo_l84-4A7sxJqX9cQQ7UUKk Message-ID: From: Nicklas Johnson To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:10:35 -0000 This has turned into, without a doubt, the most retarded thread I've read in eons. A word to the wise: starting holy wars over languages, operating systems, browsers, window managers, editors, shells, or mail readers among a large list of geeks is a waste of everyone's time. If you do it, you are already a troll and you deserve to be banished to the wasteland for being such a killer of what productivity might have otherwise occurred had you not done something so foolish and pointless. If you think that "there can be only one" language, operating system, browser, window manager, editor, shell, or mail reader, I declare that you are an idiot. There's a reason we have so many choices in languages, operating systems, browsers, window managers, editors, shells and mail readers, just as there's a reason we have so many choices in cars, motorcycles, shoes, underwear, furniture, toilet paper, and cake. Different things are appropriate for different situations and different people. If you see things in such simplistic terms that one thing is always "good" and another thing is always "bad", you are a simpleton. You have abdicated rational, methodical thought and replaced it with religious dogma, and you might as well be a chimpanzee or crow for all the thinking you're doing. Please, for the love of all that is human and judicious, stop being so ridiculous. There are reasons people use Java. There are reasons people don't use Java. Who cares? Use it if it's appropriate to your circumstances. Don't if it's not. Make a decision based on the facts and circumstances with which you're presented, not on religious dogma from loud, fundamentalist blowhards. Nick On 10 September 2010 18:23, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Jason" == Jason C Wells writes: > > Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >> > >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > >> > >> > Jason> Java is not just for browsers. > > Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. > > Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. > It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap > programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. > > Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >