From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 08:05:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812E3106564A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD728FC18 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8D859ZU027937 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:05:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o8D859bb027936 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:05:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:05:09 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009131105.09475.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:05:12 -0000 The interesting thing is that on parallel with this thread (before it was r= uined), was running another thread where people (port creators/users) were discussing about their experience w= ith the new icedtea plugin, which seems to run equally well on FreeBSD as in Ubuntu/Linux. =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Saturday 11 September 2010 04:45:48 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 = Nicklas Johnson =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > This has turned into, without a doubt, the most retarded thread I've read= in > eons. [snip] >=20 > Nick >=20 > On 10 September 2010 18:23, Randal L. Schwartz wro= te: >=20 > > >>>>> "Jason" =3D=3D Jason C Wells writes: > > > > Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > >> > > >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > >> > > >> > > Jason> Java is not just for browsers. > > > > Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. > > > > Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. > > It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap > > programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. > > > > Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 = 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > > discussion > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios