From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 00:17:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B235F106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA848FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so408079eya.3 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:17:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iplTVsGhVjgHjmakz+4R0bB5RoW4xoHa+atDLrr40XQ=; b=qhJcSN34XGWmt0J7mXOTQEdRUfspzeoUB9cNZCDlwWHgvXeIQjOKtkePf1ouGptA7b mATXmwm5+3/CrgR8bMLv/Fuq/nA4jIquc6e/rxWVAQEoBd7TclzME6xC2WM4hPpXE+Hn QEZzwyKY6UXbiXTfOtOPO23ESZXbOQpipTlCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=ZHZBsGaRHdVA7Vno8T8sF+d4T+Fl4zrpmY/4JCoUNSyjscfANta6UhKRN2lL5WMtCC dvGhYzLRDjMfKlw5+jxJpNNUrPznShUwRrrvdsm4h/WFvPNCN4orJRPBCgMeRhPszP0l kN0B9ecRgrlk+YyCpkMsfVnZuvbTSmBv5VtlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.85 with SMTP id v63mr373160wee.32.1265501820097; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:17:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ajtiM Subject: Re: why update... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:17:01 -0000 >...if is doesn't work??? > >It is not the first time and I think the last too but I have a question >anywhere: > >The problem is jpeg 8.0 which need to update many ports. It is not a problem >if works. But if doesn't which is my case that is a problem. As I sent a >previous mails about problem to rebuilt qt33 and arts (not just me) and the >problem became a BIG problem because many other applications don't work. Why >all of this rush for update a port in this case jpeg which IMO is not so >important (BTW Linux world use K3b for KDE 4 more than six months without >problem, we don't) and update for QT33 doen't works??? Is it QT33 less >important as jpeg 8.0. As a user of FreeBSD I expected that when update is in >the port that is safe to use this port. But looks like that I am wrong. >Thanks. "Why update?" is a question that *you* should ask *before* you update your ports tree, or rebuild your ports. No one is forcing you to track the latest ports tree, that is *your* choice. Committers put in a lot of work to try to ensure that large updates go as smoothly as possible, but there are often some problems that go undetected during test builds, and need to be fixed after the first commit. If you don't feel confident about resolving such problems yourself, then wait for several days after a major commit for the dust to settle before updating. There are four major kinds of problems that often go undetected by test builds: 1) problems that occur because of the presence of outdated or conflicting ports (in the test builds, everything is built in a clean sandbox, unlike on most actual systems, where the presence of ports that haven't yet been updated or conflict but don't have the proper CONFLICTS entries can break updates); 2) problems due to ports built with non-default build options (there are just too many build options in ports to test every possible combination of options, so most test builds just use the defaults; users who use non-default options may have to work with committers to fix any resulting problems); 3) problems that arise because portmaster, portupgrade, and other build tools don't do what the test servers do (sometimes these third-party tools are broken, or problems arise because the tools leave outdated ports in place as they are rebuilding them, so that users can continue to use the ports during the time that they are rebuilt; this can lead to problems that can usually be circumvented, but may break big batches of port builds); and 4) run-time problems that occur after the updating of a port (there are far too many ports, and too few of them have regression test suites with complete coverage that are run before installation, to test the entire functionality of every port as part of a pre-commit test, so users can expect some problems to slip through). You can cut down on the number of problems that you encounter from 1) and 3) by removing all of the ports that you intend to update, and all of the ports that depend upon them, before updating them. There was no "rush", as you put it, involved with this update: the committer announced his intention to do this on the mailing lists on Jan. 24, then he worked with other committers to do a full test run, before making any changes. Again, you have the option of using a previous version of the ports tree, or of using packages, or of managing your updates more carefully, or of not using ports at all, but some other packaging system. You should expect problems from all of these: nothing is perfect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 00:55:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA22106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10508FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 848DE1C0847 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:55:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:55:02 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:55:05 -0000 Hi: I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able to run privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, I can mount /home) - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left from the session. Is this possible, without messing arround with sudo or adding users to wheel or operator groups? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 01:01:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DCE106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49AC8FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so449100qyk.12 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:01:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.66.216 with SMTP id o24mr1716050qai.357.1265504464996; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:01:04 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.133] In-Reply-To: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> References: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:01:04 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:01:07 -0000 On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote= : > Hi: > > I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able to run > privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: > > - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, I can > mount /home) > - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left from the > session. Not sure if it would work or not but you could try setting /etc/csh.logout setuid root (or whatever). However, IIRC, there are security concerns with setuid scripts (I remember previous list discussions about setuid shell scripts but don't remember what the verdict was). --=20 Rob Farmer > > Is this possible, without messing arround with sudo or adding users to wh= eel > or operator groups? > > Thanks, Erik > > -- > Erik N=F8rgaard > Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http:/= /www.locolomo.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 01:27:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BE1106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497008FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o171Rmo2030196; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:27:48 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:27:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002070227.48003.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Peter Steele Subject: Re: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:27:58 -0000 On Saturday 06 February 2010 20:22:13 Peter Steele wrote: > I have a BSD 7 system with the full BSD 8 sources loaded on it, and we use > this box to build our custom BSD 8 kernel and tools. We do not install the > custom code on the BSD 7 box but simply collect the artifacts as a basis > for our custom BSD 8 image. I have a standalone tool that has previously > been built on this same BSD 7 system, but it just uses gcc and links > against the normal BSD 7 libraries that are located on this box. > > When we run this tool on a BSD 7 box it works fine. However, we've > discovered one function it performs doesn't work properly. It uses kvm_read > to collect network statistics and apparently applications that use this > function have to be linked against the libraries of the actual target OS. > One easy solution of course is to build our tool on a BSD 8 box, and in the > long run we'll likely go that route as we move away from BSD 7. Right now > though our build server is BSD 7 and we need to build this tool against BSD > 8 libraries. This obviously can be done since "make world" does exactly > that-it builds everything against 8.0 objects even if the build is done on > a BSD 7 box. > > Without dissecting the magic going on in "make world", can any explain how > I could do the same thing with my standalone tool? Specifically, build it > on a BSD 7 box but link it against BSD 8 libraries. The easiest way would probably be the following. # SOMEDIR=/path/to/fbsd8buildenv # mkdir -p ${SOMEDIR} # cd /path/to/FreeBSD-8.0/src # make buildworld # make installworld DESTDIR=${SOMEDIR} Then adding --sysroot=${SOMEDIR} to all invocations of gcc/ld and/or liberal use of -I and -L gcc options should do the trick. For example: # export CFLAGS="-I${SOMEDIR}/usr/include -L${SOMEDIR}/lib -L${SOMEDIR}/usr/lib # make Regards, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 01:40:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7411065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2465E8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o171ePpo030398; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:40:25 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:40:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002070240.24935.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:40:39 -0000 On Sunday 07 February 2010 01:55:02 Erik Norgaard wrote: > I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able to run > privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: > > - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, I can > mount /home) This can be done using amd(8). Check out the example section in amd.conf(5). > - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left from > the session. Not sure why you would want to reboot the entire system but simply doing "chmod +s /sbin/shutdown" should give all users access to the shutdown(8) command. > > Is this possible, without messing arround with sudo or adding users to > wheel or operator groups? -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 02:49:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174D106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42E8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o172nAL1071038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o172nA7c071035; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19485; Sat, 6 Feb 10 18:44:50 PST Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:42:13 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kamikaze@bsdforen.de, m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk Message-Id: <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:49:52 -0000 > I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to > set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. > > My requirement is that this must be done without using anything > outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 02:55:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F8A10656C4 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E328FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26548363; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:54:59 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:55:01 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Pieter de Goeje , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:54:59 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? Thread-Index: AcqnlMllVthFcU6xTR+spCSJ9MZBIAAC/B6g Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <201002070227.48003.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201002070227.48003.pieter@degoeje.nl> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:55:03 -0000 Okay, that looks doable. I'll see how this works out. Thanks very much for = the info! -----Original Message----- From: Pieter de Goeje [mailto:pieter@degoeje.nl]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:28 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Peter Steele Subject: Re: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? On Saturday 06 February 2010 20:22:13 Peter Steele wrote: > I have a BSD 7 system with the full BSD 8 sources loaded on it, and we=20 > use this box to build our custom BSD 8 kernel and tools. We do not=20 > install the custom code on the BSD 7 box but simply collect the=20 > artifacts as a basis for our custom BSD 8 image. I have a standalone=20 > tool that has previously been built on this same BSD 7 system, but it=20 > just uses gcc and links against the normal BSD 7 libraries that are locat= ed on this box. > > When we run this tool on a BSD 7 box it works fine. However, we've=20 > discovered one function it performs doesn't work properly. It uses=20 > kvm_read to collect network statistics and apparently applications=20 > that use this function have to be linked against the libraries of the act= ual target OS. > One easy solution of course is to build our tool on a BSD 8 box, and=20 > in the long run we'll likely go that route as we move away from BSD 7.=20 > Right now though our build server is BSD 7 and we need to build this=20 > tool against BSD > 8 libraries. This obviously can be done since "make world" does=20 > exactly that-it builds everything against 8.0 objects even if the=20 > build is done on a BSD 7 box. > > Without dissecting the magic going on in "make world", can any explain=20 > how I could do the same thing with my standalone tool? Specifically,=20 > build it on a BSD 7 box but link it against BSD 8 libraries. The easiest way would probably be the following. # SOMEDIR=3D/path/to/fbsd8buildenv # mkdir -p ${SOMEDIR} # cd /path/to/FreeBSD-8.0/src # make buildworld # make installworld DESTDIR=3D${SOMEDIR} Then adding --sysroot=3D${SOMEDIR} to all invocations of gcc/ld and/or libe= ral use of -I and -L gcc options should do the trick. For example: # export CFLAGS=3D"-I${SOMEDIR}/usr/include -L${SOMEDIR}/lib -L${SOMEDIR}/u= sr/lib # make Regards, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 03:39:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A803C1065676 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C1F8FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT111-W23 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:39:57 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_fad873ce-4f06-4495-b7e3-1603938a1a70_" X-Originating-IP: [117.193.134.16] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:39:57 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2010 03:39:57.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[37FDD700:01CAA7A7] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Screen saver hangs: can't retrieve user sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:39:58 -0000 --_fad873ce-4f06-4495-b7e3-1603938a1a70_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am facing a serious issue=2C =20 when my notebook(IBM Lenova T60+ FreeBSD-7.2+gnome2 ) goes idle screen sav= er enabled and when I hit enter it asks user password and I am able to lo= gged in . =20 but yesterday on wards when machine goes idle screen saver appears but= when I hit any key it not giving the password screen=2C just hangs in th= e screen saver image and pressing any key no matter. 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2BB106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from mda1.es.uci.edu (mda1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6338FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.es.uci.edu (smtp1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.34]) by mda1.es.uci.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o173fYe8003763 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:41:34 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.es.uci.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o173fUhS020634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:41:32 -0800 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:40:19 -0800 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Modules and Custom Kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:52:54 -0000 Hey everyone. Please bear with me as I'm very new to FreeBSD. I've recently started building a custom kernel after having had to apply a patch to enable support for my wireless device (Atheros 9285) in 8.0-RELEASE, and had a quick question about the process in general. According to the documentation, a line with device will cause that driver to be compiled into the kernel. If one of those lines is commented out, does that mean that the driver will still be built, but that it will be installed as a module? I didn't see anything that told me that explicitly in the documentation, but that's the feeling I got from what I read. I just want to make sure that my assumption is correct, and if not, how to make sure that something gets built as a module rather than built directly into the kernel. In all, the process looks relatively painless as long as I'm careful not to make too many changes to the GENERIC config. Hopefully this isn't a dumb question :) I really like FreeBSD so far, and think I'm going to enjoy my new experience quite a bit. Thanks in advance! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 03:58:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE3A1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143958FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o173wGXx052073; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o173wGms052070; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:58:17 -0000 On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to >> set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. >> >> My requirement is that this must be done without using anything >> outside the base system. > > There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo > back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only > base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather > than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the > line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) > cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the > inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. % printf "\033]0;Title Here\007" What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 04:03:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3E41065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF7A8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o173nxTS078330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o173nxXk078329; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19723; Sat, 6 Feb 10 19:47:49 PST Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:45:12 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: norgaard@locolomo.org Message-Id: <4b6e3748.uodc5baNdIuDUSwW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:03:09 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able > to run privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: > > - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, > I can mount /home) Or, better yet, use an automounter. > - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left > from the session. I'm not aware of any existing, simple method to handle this part. It might not be all that difficult to hack something into getty(8) or init(8). Another possibility would be to clean /tmp and /var/tmp in the .logout script, which should not require any special privs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 04:43:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFAD106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B828FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1177570wwj.13 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:43:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9+uEEqN4kqWbwvxEA/T/Tk2o380XjeVu5IUScmq9Ro=; b=FmbEo99gwFpp5qC/A1NxRvgtOnuaWvIQwAUU36zzasy8pYWJzhUyooo0bcWjRW4wN2 51g/yqdUOf+FE5nFo3+JCj98LgFnLa4lOqbZ+RgWe2fgUayz200oH9xEkil+WuVjjHpp Qvjd1l8iCqUSo3x8bofGlBSH3VSyO7lEzPXz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fwZb9Suhh7Z49I7JU8CsNZDLT2t3sxno45c9Vp2tEiReskge/Z4g4z5bNe4pEt40pP DNcwnRoPB9FTXpKaLny8x6Nn8YJfkGTpMGyedZBDIgomB7MErDLvfzQdWCQt+695TfTf eMteAQEbjSfK+zoNzq4CNM8dW+1afgiZqSTtA= Received: by 10.216.93.70 with SMTP id k48mr2683118wef.134.1265517820024; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n12sm7603540gve.29.2010.02.06.20.43.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:43:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:43:36 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207044336.74581e10@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6DBC47.8050900@tundraware.com> References: <4B6DBC47.8050900@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clarification Of In Place Upgrade Process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:43:41 -0000 On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:00:23 -0600 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > When migrating from 6.x to 7.x and to do system refreshes within a > given release branch, I did/do this: > > - Get sources > - mergemaster -i > - make buildworld buildkernel I'm pretty sure you are supposed to install the kernel here and then reboot into single user mode. Typically you can skip this kind of thing but I wouldn't push my luck on a major upgrade > - go single user > - make installworld installkernel > - reboot > I now wish to do the same to get to the 8.x branch, BUT ... somewhere > on USENET, someone commented that you have to also reinstall/rebuild > all the packages/ports when you do this. This was news to me. Is > there some reason the entire application base has to be reinstalled > when moving to a new branch? If so, has this always been the case or > is it new for 8.x? My 6.x -> 7.x upgrade went flawlessly using the > method above without touching the ports/packages tree. It's prudent to do it. When you cross a major boundary your packages will be linked to obsolete libraries that have been left behind until you do a make delete-old-libs or make delete-old. They will continue to work but may develop security problems, or conflicts as you update piecemeal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 04:58:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88931065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5D28FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1181630wwj.13 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:57:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3hXUXTUy59bAi+EUvim4D6Z8F3+/TdelR2e11BErenc=; b=tJCJww75hqX7yjOEsNHNZpcvEgFVH7kw8NqrQSNjmLC8b9aND5NJ+YRdeZLPBf9R71 q3a8KC3bix9+1HxxMEBLUe1P4rH7Wo/HjqB80saHwMEOcMNxzOLPAv3N6GyI5brWc8xe K5FwfXL7XyJoB49JZzPbTOaVbpJDZ8mtkFXX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UFOubl4QWvtftEuNNDRgAuJRxIw14sWqdY1W+dJtMq/Xmk0a/Yl5DJm7QIYKOWjDz/ XzrqIjeL+3wglOBoaT9LVfAaHjnDZm6kcLzUZnXAfiBvRV6/0rRCA1rBk/sNBxZHptjQ fo44wYJqDWgXAgbSwfozN9xwS/xyf9W/EtI34= Received: by 10.216.88.136 with SMTP id a8mr2837848wef.77.1265518679592; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm7629113gve.1.2010.02.06.20.57.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:57:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:57:56 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:58:01 -0000 On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > > 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 kbps > > to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my question > > is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate , how can I do > > this ? >=20 > Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to prioritize > TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what you experience and > solve the problem for you. It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 06:13:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77391065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8828FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o176D1K0099025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:13:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o176D1Zu099024; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA20057; Sat, 6 Feb 10 22:07:26 PST Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:04:49 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wblock@wonkity.com Message-Id: <4b6e5801.lWIkM1CRXy7E/cY/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:13:15 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? If I remembered it I'd have included it :) The first 3 results from Googling "xterm escape sequences" are rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Xterm-Title.html www.kitebird.com/csh-tcsh-book/ctlseqs.pdf I'd expect it to be in at least one of them. (#4 may be a miss, but the next 5 also look promising.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 07:18:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEA41065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963BE8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o177I1cG052616; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:18:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o177I1RN052613; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:18:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:18:01 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4b6e5801.lWIkM1CRXy7E/cY/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4b6e5801.lWIkM1CRXy7E/cY/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:18:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:18:03 -0000 On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? > > If I remembered it I'd have included it :) I did some unsuccessful searching for "query xterm title" earlier today. > The first 3 results from Googling "xterm escape sequences" are > > rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html That one has it: printf "\033];badexample\007" This sets the title in both xterm and Terminal. printf "\033[21;t\n" That brings back the title in Terminal, with a leading "l"... and in the keyboard buffer. Doesn't work in xterm, possibly because xterm is pickier about the exact sequence. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 07:39:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3376C106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ms80@dynamik.sytes.net) Received: from mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net (p57A22BC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.162.43.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847948FC1D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net [192.168.9.8]) by mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D41439B2D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.5.0 (20070423) at dynamik.sytes.net X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) by mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net Received: from mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net ([192.168.9.8]) by localhost (mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net [192.168.9.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkZpcx2LAgmB for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:39:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from type-xxi.hydro.dynamik.sytes.net (type-xxi.hydro.dynamik.sytes.net [192.168.12.34]) by mail.eigen.dynamik.sytes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BEA439B2B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:39:15 +0100 (CET) From: ms80 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:39:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.3; i386; ; ) References: <201002061017.05737.ms80@dynamik.sytes.net> In-Reply-To: <201002061017.05737.ms80@dynamik.sytes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002070839.12626.ms80@dynamik.sytes.net> Subject: Re: amd64: Fatal Trap 12 in high load situations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:39:26 -0000 Am Saturday 06 February 2010 10:17:05 schrob ms80: > Hi > > I have a problem installing / upgrading FreeBSD 8.0-release on a new > machine. > > The computers specs are: > > cpu: AMD Phenom II X4 > board: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H > ram: 4x2GBytes DDR3/1333 > hdd: 2xMaxtor STM31000528AS > nic: 4x Intel(R) PRO/1000 > > and I'm running > FreeBSD phenom2.localnet 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 > 15:02:08 UTC 2009 > root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > During 'make buildworld' the machine regulary crashes with the following > panic: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual adress = 0x80000 > fault code = supervisor write data, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xffffffff80578591 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80eab94700 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80eab94720 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume IOPL = 0 > current process = 22039 (uudecode) > trap number = 12 > panic: pagefault > cpuid = 0 > Uptime: 2h35m4s > Physical memory: 8176 MB > Dumping 2195 MB: 2180 2164 2148 2132 2116 > > > or this one, its from last night and the machine wrote a minidump before > locking up: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x80000 > fault code = supervisor write data, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xffffffff80578591 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80eab21500 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80eab21520 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 5238 (objcopy) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > Uptime: 1h15m45s > Physical memory: 8176 MB > Dumping 2148 MB: 2133 2117 2101 2085 2069 2053 2037 2021 2005 1989 1973 > 1957 1941 1925 1909 1893 1877 1861 1845 1829 1813 1797 1781 1765 1749 1733 > 1717 1701 1685 1669 1653 1637 1621 1605 1589 1573 1557 1541 1525 1509 1493 > 1477 1461 1445 1429 1413 1397 1381 1365 1349 1333 1317 1301 1285 1269 1253 > 1237 1221 1205 1189 1173 1157 1141 1125 1109 1093 1077 1061 1045 1029 1013 > 997 981 965 949 933 917 901 885 869 853 837 821 805 789 773 757 741 725 > 709 693 677 661 645 629 613 597 581 565 549 533 517 501 485 469 453 437 > 421 405 389 373 357 341 325 309 293 277 261 245 229 213 197 181 165 149 > 133 117 101 85 69 53 37 21 5 > [snip] I know, its kind of stupid to reply to my own mails, but for reference: I edited loader.conf to contain ahci_load="YES" So far it works: The machine compiled all night and didn't crash. I had the idea because yesterday while testing the proposal to lower the ddr3 voltages, the machine crashed again. Additionally to the panic I'm already used to, I had a second panic in my core.txt.1: This was a fatal trap 1, referencing (current process) to irq 22. I checked what irq22 is and it is my atapci (ATI IXP700/800 SATA300 controller). Googling a bit around I found a tutorial how to activate ahci. I gave it a try and as said above: So far it seems to work. regards Sven -- 00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 07:43:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACAB106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AA98FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.212.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E77F8A159B; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:43:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:43:32 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: guru@unixarea.de, m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:43:41 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to >> set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. >> >> My requirement is that this must be done without using anything >> outside the base system. > > There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo > back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only > base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather > than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the > line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) > cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the > inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. Where can I find this magical sequence? I've been trying to read: http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html But the Syntax is really cryptic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 08:20:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6C21065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8975E8FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4567694.home.otenet.gr [94.70.126.150]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o178K2Hm018566 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:20:02 +0200 Message-ID: <4B6E77B2.3080300@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:20:02 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> In-Reply-To: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Modules and Custom Kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:20:05 -0000 On 07/02/2010 5:40 π.ÎŒ., James Colannino wrote: > Hey everyone. Please bear with me as I'm very new to FreeBSD. I've > recently started building a custom kernel after having had to apply a > patch to enable support for my wireless device (Atheros 9285) in > 8.0-RELEASE, and had a quick question about the process in general. > > > According to the documentation, a line with device will > cause that driver to be compiled into the kernel. If one of those lines > is commented out, does that mean that the driver will still be built, > but that it will be installed as a module? Yes. Unless you have set some variables like WITHOUT_MODULES or MODULES_OVERRIDE in /etc/make.conf. By default all modules will be built. The modules will not be loaded automatically though. You will have to use /boot/loader.conf to specify which ones to load. > I didn't see anything that > told me that explicitly in the documentation, but that's the feeling I > got from what I read. I just want to make sure that my assumption is > correct, and if not, how to make sure that something gets built as a > module rather than built directly into the kernel. > You are doing just fine ;) > In all, the process looks relatively painless as long as I'm careful not > to make too many changes to the GENERIC config. > This is true also. Using some common sense and reading the comments in GENERIC you can make your own custom kernel with little effort. Of course you may also read the Handbook on this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > Hopefully this isn't a dumb question :) I really like FreeBSD so far, > and think I'm going to enjoy my new experience quite a bit. > > > Sure you will, FreeBSD is addictive! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 08:38:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CC9106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from smtp1.es.uci.edu (smtp1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D30D8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.es.uci.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o178cOhq031056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:38:25 -0800 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4B6E7C00.60203@colannino.org> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:38:24 -0800 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The Atheros 9285 patch on 8.0-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:38:27 -0000 Hey everyone, I have an Asus EEE PC 1005HA, which has an Atheros 9285 wireless chipset. I discovered that Rui Paulo wrote a driver, and put up a patch for the 8.0 stable kernel here: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff It seems to have worked for some people. After patching and re-compiling my kernel, it did manage to detect the device on my machine, but unfortunately, I'm unable to scan for networks or associate with my network. Here's what happens: The machine boots, and I see the ath0 interface when I run ifconfig. I then run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0' and successfully create wlan0. However, when I run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 scan', the command doesn't seem to do anything, and I eventually have to CTRL-C it. Has anybody else had this problem? Is it a known issue? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? It was mentioned that testers were needed for this driver, and I'd love to help out if possible. If anybody wants me to send any additional information, just let me know. Thanks so much everyone! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 08:49:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8961065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6748FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.212.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0487F8A159A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:49:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6E7EB2.7040408@bsdforen.de> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:49:54 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: guru@unixarea.de, m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:49:58 -0000 Dominic Fandrey wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to >>> set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. >>> >>> My requirement is that this must be done without using anything >>> outside the base system. >> There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo >> back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only >> base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather >> than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the >> line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) >> cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the >> inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. > > That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the > original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. > Where can I find this magical sequence? > > I've been trying to read: > http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html > > But the Syntax is really cryptic. I finally got it: printf "\033[22;0t" This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf "\033[23;0t" This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 09:21:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0213106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BFD8FC1D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT111-W55 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:21:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.193.153.167] From: dhaneshk k To: , Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:21:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> References: , <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz>, <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2010 09:21:33.0753 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0C17290:01CAA7D6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:21:35 -0000 how can we control it within transmission ? Can you shed some light in th= is solution=20 mean while I thank Morgan Wesstron for giving me the Daniel Hartmeiers a= rticle =2C really good. thanks in advance=20 dhanesh > Date: Sun=2C 7 Feb 2010 04:57:56 +0000 > From: rwmaillists@googlemail.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients >=20 > On Sat=2C 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 > Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: >=20 >=20 > > > 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 kbps > > > to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my question > > > is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate =2C how can I do > > > this ? >=20 > >=20 > > Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to prioritize > > TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what you experience and > > solve the problem for you. >=20 > It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. > Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=3D60969= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 09:40:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE797106568B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4E08FC18 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 51b5c098bc67c2e9f4afc23fcc5656c3 Cc: Tim Daneliuk Subject: Re: Clarification Of In Place Upgrade Process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:40:21 -0000 On Saturday 06 February 2010, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > When migrating from 6.x to 7.x and to do system refreshes within a > given release branch, I did/do this: > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- Get sources > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - mergemaster -i > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- make buildworld buildkernel > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- go single user > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - make installworld installkernel > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - reboot Shouldn't mergemaster be run later in the sequence, like this: - make buildworld buildkernel - make installkernel - Reboot into single user mode - mergemaster -p - make installworld - mergemaster (or mergemaster -Ui) - Reboot =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 09:51:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A130C1065670 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:51:24 -0000 RW wrote: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 > Morgan Wesström wrote: > > >>> 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 kbps >>> to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my question >>> is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate , how can I do >>> this ? > >> Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to prioritize >> TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what you experience and >> solve the problem for you. > > It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. > Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. Well, the thing is that if you prioritize your TCP ACKs you won't have to do any rate limiting within transmission. You can then use your full upload and download simultaneously. Don't you want to use the bandwidth you pay for? :-) /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 09:58:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB2A106568B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FDD8FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o179wNNN070762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:58:23 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o179wNNN070762 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265536704; bh=C5EDXqO/Axgpy8czOb/4ljT4bzryyX8UtoNn2UMC2zU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B6E8EB5.8000107@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 007=20Feb=202010=2009:58:13=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Bi ll=20Tillman=20|CC:=20Mark=20,=20=0D=0A=20help=20help=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20Wireless=20Access=20Point|References:=20<855190. 9850.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<855190.9850.q m@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enig24BC7D497DD34F5B6E3009C2"; b=iJMSOw9HX+NdjEoIuRngoF7ZiqppZVq/4EXlHQKofd9pdjKsJ4KE/G1FyPlBt/8ip b5Qf05XSVF0T8jw97t3nXsgyqeTQRSwL72XZ+H1UKIq1QvQKP8E0TxZxaxk3E7OKle JnGQI/B9ecJMhfbr4YF8S1yEfur7sr9q1jNpDAg0= Message-ID: <4B6E8EB5.8000107@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:58:13 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Tillman References: <855190.9850.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <855190.9850.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig24BC7D497DD34F5B6E3009C2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: help help , Mark Subject: Re: Wireless Access Point X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:58:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig24BC7D497DD34F5B6E3009C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/02/2010 23:41, Bill Tillman wrote: > Yes, my dhcp server which is this same FreeBSD server with the > wireless NIC is pushing the gateway IP address 192.168.0.254 > =20 > This is my /etc/rc.conf file > =20 > hostname=3D"FreeBSD13.mydomain.com" > gateway_enable=3D"YES" > ifconfig_bge0=3D"DHCP" > inetd_enable=3D"YES" > nfs_client_enable=3D"YES" > nfs_server_enable=3D"YES" > rpcbind_enable=3D"YES" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > wlans_ral0=3Dwlan0 > create_args_wlan0=3D"wlanmode hostap mode 11g" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid freebsd= ap channel 11" > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" > natd_interface=3D"wlan0" > =20 > The wireless laptop is seeing the FreeBSD server and is connecting=20 > and getting an IP address. But I cannot get out to the Internet with > it. I really appreciate the advice gang. I know this thing is > probably simple and I just can't find the resolution. Hmmm... there's no indication there that you are running a DHCP server on that FreeBSD box. Still, it would be fairly obvious if DHCP wasn't working. The problem is that you're running natd on the wrong interface. natd should run on the upstream interface -- the one with the default route. The way you've got things configured, it's treating your wlan as the external world, and NAT'ing the internet. Hmmm... Seems your wired interface is similarly obtaining an IP from private addess space, so it in its turn must be being NATed somewhere upsteam in order to get Internet access. While double-NAT'ing your WLAN should work (most of the time, at least), it's a bit dodgy and could result in mysterious failures. You can avoid this, by configuring proxy servers on your FreeBSD machine -- this is a classic firewall design, by the way -- but that is quite a lot of work, and you have to set up proxies for all of the services your WLAN hosts need to access on the Internet. 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X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net 1Ne448-0004yk-Bw 9fb3b8d609edea8fb0bbe1cfa62d17bf Cc: m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk, guru@unixarea.de, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:09:12 -0000 On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >>> I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to > >>> set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. > >>> > >>> My requirement is that this must be done without using anything > >>> outside the base system. > >> There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo > >> back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only > >> base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather > >> than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the > >> line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) > >> cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the > >> inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. > > > > That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the > > original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. > > Where can I find this magical sequence? > > > > I've been trying to read: > > http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html > > > > But the Syntax is really cryptic. > > I finally got it: > > printf "\033[22;0t" > This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. > printf "\033[23;0t" > This restores them from the stack. > > It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I > am using), though. > > That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. Not a termcap problem. A terminal problem rather. This "storing title on a stack" stuff is something very few terminals support. Recent xterms does, but few if any others. Other terminals will at best have sequences for "set title" and "read current title". -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 10:25:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E94106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AE18FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.212.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D897E8A159A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:25:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6E9506.4030301@bsdforen.de> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:25:10 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> <4B6E7EB2.7040408@bsdforen.de> <20100207100830.GA18513@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20100207100830.GA18513@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk, guru@unixarea.de, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:25:14 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >> Dominic Fandrey wrote: >>> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>>> I wish to use the "\033]0;%s\007" sequence in a shell-script to >>>>> set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. >>>>> >>>>> My requirement is that this must be done without using anything >>>>> outside the base system. >>>> There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo >>>> back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only >>>> base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather >>>> than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the >>>> line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) >>>> cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the >>>> inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. >>> That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the >>> original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. >>> Where can I find this magical sequence? >>> >>> I've been trying to read: >>> http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html >>> >>> But the Syntax is really cryptic. >> I finally got it: >> >> printf "\033[22;0t" >> This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. >> printf "\033[23;0t" >> This restores them from the stack. >> >> It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I >> am using), though. >> >> That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. > > Not a termcap problem. A terminal problem rather. This "storing title > on a stack" stuff is something very few terminals support. Recent > xterms does, but few if any others. You're right my testing confirms that. I used the official termcap info from urxvt (needed some reformatting to use it) and it didn't fix the problem. > Other terminals will at best have sequences for "set title" and "read > current title". Unfortunately the sequence to return the title seems to be implemented (it returns the surrounding sequence as described in http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html), but the string in there is empty. I contacted the main developer of rxvt-unicode with my problem. I figure the stack solution is the most traditional and convenient approch in my opinion. Maybe he'll agree. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 10:29:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD34106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD598FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o17ASw2p071115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:28:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o17ASw2p071115 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265538539; bh=9Z4+AQmwBjNe1UjynFJmP+99rEYYFMNH86hBICG7i1k=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B6E95EA.6090009@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2007=20Feb=202010=2010:28:58=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Bill=20Tillman=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:= 20Wireless=20Access=20Point|References:=20<704081.59220.qm@web3650 4.mail.mud.yahoo.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<704081.59220.qm@web36504.mai l.mud.yahoo.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/pl ain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=YM6lKxZ2sJCVfLayhaw4h0pIsYb5nWh6Z8m73cg/JiCrktPEMvsnCBt8/XmTU/WfC bls6usyQLiCDRvvBS1qUreIuIUPMQTrD0pifhY2z3WVwu3nxqr2PFYfGa3vX4ORFnF fszykcwYVxOD8Fr7wXlQb7tgT0Fg7BGwWrO6ISIU= Message-ID: <4B6E95EA.6090009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:28:58 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Tillman References: <704081.59220.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <704081.59220.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Point X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:29:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2010 18:38, Bill Tillman wrote: > Okay I have finally decided to scrap my old D-Link wireless router in favor of my FreeBSD-8.0 server with a wireless NIC ral0. I have thus far got the NIC to come up and work as an access point. I can connect to this AP with my laptop computer via wireless. I'm running dhcpd on the FreeBSD server so my laptop is also assigned an IP address as well. > > My existing setup has a FreeBSD server running as a router/gateway for my entire LAN. This router has two NICs one connected to the cable modem from my ISP and one connected to a switch on 10.0.0.0/24 Lan. > > The existing D-Link router has it's WAN port connected to this same switch and it gets a 10.0.0.0/24 IP address from another FreeBSD server running dhcpd. This D-Link router is running dhcpd and it assigns 192.168.0.0/24 IP addresses to all wireless clients. When a wireless client boots up in my house they connect to this D-Link router and all is well. OK, now I've done what I should have in the first place, and re-read the thread it its entirety. > This setup is working fine as all the workstations on 10.0.0.0/24 can access the Internet and all wireless clients on 192.168.0.0/24 can access the Internet. > > Now my new FreeBSD-8.0-STABLE server seems to be almost ready to take over for the D-Link router and my old FreeBSD server. I have two NIC's in this server, an ethernet cable one (bge0) and the wireless NIC (ral0) or wlan0. > > I can ping outside addresses from this new server but of course it's using the 10.0.0.0/24 segment which I knew would work. But even though the wireless clients can connect to the wirless NIC and be assigned an IP address and can ping the IP address of the server, both of them, I cannot access the Internet from any of the wireless machines. I could use some advice on what to do to correct this. You've got two FreeBSD servers. For the sake of clarity let me name them thus: Server A is your external gateway, and connects to your cable modem. Server B has the wireless card and is the gateway between your WLAN and your private wired network. The way I'd handle this is: * Don't run NAT at all on Server B. Instead, just treat it as a plain router between the wired and wireless networks. * To make that work, Server B should have fixed addresses, and you will need to add static routes on machines on your wired network so they know how to get packets to the WLAN. * You don't need to run a DHCP server on Server B -- you can hang it all of the DHCP server on Server A. You will need to run DHCP-relay on Server B, but that's a very much simpler program. * The DHCPd on Server A will have to be configured to supply addresses for the range used on your WLAN. You will also need to check and possible amend your firewall on Server A so that it will NAT for the address range used on your WLAN as well as the range on your wired net. Does that make sense to you? If not I am happy to expound further. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktuleoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwhwgCfbROQ90szIAFFZXMTa4+zKkEX D3IAnRKpp5vC+uFw9t7YxdGl/77PLBSx =e76a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 11:21:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32396106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E81E78FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97936 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2010 11:21:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265541706; bh=EJjPNM1Y8x/v2EPd3hm6FB36j7wPOH9z6qrI0rYT3fI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sIb9cjHO8a1Vn/ZSz0P6Eg9gE8+kKQifvFYsDW7EYXjHakh2Mb8EboUIE8yABfXDdJqQ1oAhu7P0kk2gQ8Rc/1V0SZ7sORXLkeG3LSHAZ2TMAhXTCpPxdFjparUj7EISr9sEeZzBunnN1e57iYv5EWCCqWVi+ZUZdJt8jduC9cM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oqedowpW03vX+BaIY45wOpCfP+xxkkK0BIKejINHozVNmMprQk/evZAPkl6mwVAki03y3/t6b+Loi7uv36oDQ56VpjUXZJ4FJya65XT47BYEpRD7Z7r57yytXsYyYTMMvyl5CMcG6/t4/MgEoi1as8wWzgbiTJU7qRlU4XDy8qE=; Message-ID: <12277.97919.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9jcdB3QVM1nfIK7scen99r5HEK3d8yJqRBvu7Cz45uKF9egm.uS2QDtDxcxp36MobjjWuUK80iATcOelk7vQ2UmUYdg0VIU6OUXm65tEF0x8VxCSufxBUec6jwooUZc2ngLJFxqbPbLtFqR.nBWgUnsXNnqQ6MV9SeLsqjGY19qUjtHrZcE2RKbOg_eryNDhp8ZyAdlt9fEAOygaAmr7BIP9j88.577AfjV3Bk15IgpdgZ3RzQr9wYVLBQqOV1H4MmEO12J0syt6r_mYdlVirziHzuwfgwqswNWxbchnRi2h7W4y.6l5jaQcwq9ehjjBA1KlusqHt9SbIIWnryK9esQfxFat3M3xz7e2M6ceCSrCC3try5B_eZNJDLO1va4bLtLKOrweHv_.3AJGvIYbR_cyxd_.O6X9iQ-- Received: from [98.242.237.166] by web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:21:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Tillman To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B6E95EA.6090009@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Point X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:21:47 -0000 Thanks to everyone for the great advice. For clarity on this I erased all t= he other previous messages. =A0 The bottome line is I got it to work. It was a problem with my NATD setup o= n the server inside the LAN which is running as AP for the wireless compute= rs in my house. It's all working grea. And like some of you pointed out I w= as natd_interface-ing to the wrong interface. That's all fixed now but ther= e are a few bigs which I don't know can be worked out. =A0 The extisting wireless D-Link router has been trouble free since I installe= d it and we routinely acheive download speeds on the wireless machines in e= xcess of 100KB/s. It's also very fast to assign IP's and it just seems to w= ork every time. So why replace it you ask...because I'm a stupid hack who j= ust can't stop experimenting with FreeBSD servers. And I do want to use thi= s new AP server to replace my old file server which is running DHCP for the= 10.0.0.0/24 segment and is running Samba and aloowing wireless people who = visit my house to store and share files. The whole thing works great as it = is but the old FreeBSD server is old and needs to go and the D-Link router = is well just needs to go. =A0 Now the problem is that the new AP server while the CPU us very fast and I = have two massive 2 TB drives in it, is not up to snuff on the wireless AP. = It can take forever to get an IP address and most of the time I only end up= with limited connection. The worst thig though is that even when I do make= s soild connection with this AP the download speed is horrendously slow. L= ast night I began downloading the ISO-DVD1 image of the 8.0 source from fre= ebsd.org and the max speed I got was only 39KB/s which means the download w= ould have taken almost 10 hours. On the other hand I resetup with the D-Lin= k router and the download was only going to take 90 minutes for the same fi= le. =A0 Guess I'm not out of the woods on this one yet. But again thanks to all who= replied and offered the helpful advice.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 11:27:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2072106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CF0D8FC1D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Feb 2010 11:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.193]) [91.140.119.91] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 07 Feb 2010 12:27:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19jVbBhTyNjKYrcy8gVa5U5G7csTfvGTQ+SE73xJV zc7GpDCdl83Fe2 Message-ID: <4B6EA394.5050604@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:27:16 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: <201002061511.11639.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20100206192540.bb4ce11b.freebsd@edvax.de> <201002062328.27744.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201002062328.27744.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detecting cards in USB card reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:27:46 -0000 On 2/7/2010 1:28 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > curlew:/root# cat /dev/null> /dev/da0 > curlew:/root# ls -l /dev/da0* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 176 6 Feb 23:15 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 129 6 Feb 23:18 /dev/da0s1 > > I can use this to initialise the card reader but I'd feel more > comfortable with something a bit less dangerous looking. While it may feel dangerous, is perfectly safe. There is no way doing an IO operation on a disk-like device using requests othen than multiplies of the physical block which currently is 512 bytes. Opening the disk for writing and trying to do a write request, will just force GEOM to re-examine the device. > lab# echo asd | cat > /dev/da0 > cat: stdout: Invalid argument failed > lab# echo > /dev/da0 > lab# echo $? > 1 failed > lab# /bin/echo asd > /dev/da0 > /bin/echo: write: Invalid argument failed Closer look: > lab# truss sh -c "echo > /dev/da0" snip > open("/dev/da0",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC,0666) = 2 (0x2) > dup2(0x2,0x1,0x1b6,0x1000008,0x2830d040,0x2830235c) = 1 (0x1) > close(2) = 0 (0x0) > write(1,"\n",1) ERR#22 'Invalid argument' failed FreeBSD lost the ability of doing such transparent transformations when the support for block devices went away. Yes, I know, it feels awkward. Apparently, you can easily drop the support for block devices but not the habitual feeling of danger of UNIX tradition. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 11:31:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68756106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AE1C8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27155 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2010 11:31:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265542315; bh=RMf8AaDbWaXlVzIEMz+Wk6aFuRp+vZQ4GDDKj/ZadI0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NIU7qKySJx0ryfa6keTsLBBl6hQtajhGpVvkNGX6uCtGLYiR6jGU4t20hdAGeXTZrG9z3QFLC0znJEqjUeDKrwIz++wOFgEP1NYDgqoCaLUBgonXJ9l+uIUg4tLqSPzpGSe8TBmASq31pAkU0HAcdnLf/8hnrXJqGxnt44Uk1MY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZktKr6lliz9JctG6w6062uGDVTZ63Mi/r+q3ifhCPR+87TCfMj1YeDEJ0RjWALffJisRQbTz3BZUhKGWhRjCpzf1Eqwdasz+7WSeSqNxckgPN70AjPcTrVA68yDO5sD14buG5CZLf5iLSRp3t63XM+29CQUGoXfmSFUh6iDYtQg=; Message-ID: <316177.26956.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kZyhCKUVM1ky504M8HQoFON9mLX2avUX4QeQAUaLaw08OpL9B8ALtL8Ql3_1StshCa0qehnb4TLNb3fHKtjR375WJvPauiR1fzPEqewR_Qp7pnLGbBCo0nOhKElpUNU6LNdZEnVF9LVmG5K.k6taF9CN.HMkyzadVns6eZnaOayasXkURaM9YP_FDTprxO.d4KFU5bFncZwx2S4N9gsFjh1IcdZcHbCoDqUY71vviniqKIwyjVkSyz..ldc1yysPfoCLHxlMsBOsgstNEzjEtmF3rcaiXYqINg0dqPKg.yVSq5O3K.N_wgO2llw- Received: from [78.131.57.57] by web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:31:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: iphone, freebsd, vpn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:31:56 -0000 Hi, =0A=0AI'm looking forward how to connect from my iphone to my FreeBSD s= erver using VPN, do you have any suggestions?=0AShould I use, L2TP, PPTP or= IPSec? Do you have any experience with it?=0A=0ASome details: my iphone al= ways gets a new ip address from my GSM provider when I connect to the inter= net, my FreeBSD server connects to the internet using PPPoE connection with= static IP and I want to reach it through the internet.=0A=0AThank you!=0AL= =E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 11:40:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4421065694 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F098FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o17Bei0d009672; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:40:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:40:44 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201002071140.o17BeiBr009671@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: dhaneshk k , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Screen saver hangs: can't retrieve user sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:40:52 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 03:39:57 +0000 dhaneshk k wrote: >I am facing a serious issue, > > when my notebook(IBM Lenova T60+ FreeBSD-7.2+gnome2 ) goes idle screen saver enabled and when I hit enter it asks user password and I am able to logged in . > >but yesterday on wards when machine goes idle screen saver appears but when I hit any key it not giving the password screen, just hangs in the screen saver image and pressing any key no matter. > >I want to press hold the powerbutton and power off the machine all the time. ( it cause damage to system ?). > >how can I fix the hang of screen saver ? > >I am attaching the var/log/messages and Xorg log files.. > The radeon driver and/or microcode still has bugs that lead to GPU crashes. One or more of the xscreensaver modules can trigger a crash. Once the GPU is dead, you may still be able to do something about it. For example, I have sometimes been able to type in a "shutdown -r now" and have it work, but only if either an xterm is currently the window in focus or I can move the cursor to a place I remember has an xterm and then clicking on it to get the focus to that xterm. Unfortunately, the ctl-backspace method doesn't help because even if the X server quits, there is still no display of the console because the GPU is halted/looping/whatever. A full reboot appears to be necessary to reset and restart the GPU. It would indeed be good to have an easy way to recover without rebooting, e.g., using the F11 or F12 key as a way to run some command that could reinitialize the GPU. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 11:59:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25135106568D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhert@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28568FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so1614451fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:59:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Nv1OjHF/iPrQFJlLEbn1H9t4zFtZ6L26yIrEkRyW4Fc=; b=IaSShdvqAYSERmU82/QtqqF8JEqbLL4PpTGagd8XSAVBSHKz8b90zfoYvpU0Fa1yF0 qHmEcxw7Z2IgnVuxSgejfxvKO/GnlC+pqlq74ScKOkWl7DwGJo2XJPH1QP4D71kvDXrJ ZpaTT1RnAa9hGrE0h9jTWLrFyfntGHNiHxwrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JfQ9uJW5QBM11YFAmBFmgwjFadYu0aE0jFMpx11Oinm96mH6mN73GGTSqG08J94YhC 7oWkil0CCsXwFBSZwCn37BpflGVN7T/ZUtgoi5RQxBx5os3xT1Vpp72Nl1BDTHffJcTx 9Z1MUc6vIIt2W7phszo+HU8/LDgq9gD5jX2NA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.2.194 with SMTP id 2mr2278661fak.30.1265543993762; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:59:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:59:55 -0000 When using portupgrade, from time to time, there is a package that displays an options menu and waits for a interactive response (like hitting OK to accept the defaults and continue). Is there way to specify that portupgrade should always accept the defaults and not wait for user input? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:14:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CE8106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A43B98FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15287 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2010 12:14:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265544852; bh=N+PhLeXMfftyvRkwH40xYbsnFNzCSXSuJd7ikUMJ0Jc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yp6nYpUmlIaxY9hi/+ZD/MquE+j6YhlNAsabdmTv+ybd2G4xer2WUkJyqdozbF7U8Jk+Td09fDdi+Wg0GlnQED3av8PA7qPlZnmNmENZFGMNyN+KwSSS6TqMm/FIismdHuGoCbQ+bp2QU8VxmU7JJC7Xm262YU9+dJv5KEK5Jyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uVoQoQJKO2dGWkSD/EYm/IJFAvd90hsQkuwGrqABeu2MskcIg0sXgwE5Lde5VTDe0QFu5zsgXwNJEZ+bl5tTUlq4CIkx7tFYuyg9Ar3EJ/bGjoW2dURYsH5X3faJefrqr7cd0lBcEfZDsBQntyqnsrKLcH3fkGXvuxq9h715Yx8=; Message-ID: <773922.15071.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pMxcW0EVM1ln9i0tw7mqhFTyxB2pOpEEnZUNFRWhmDXdISgCdc5fj8XKbKADxVEDmGNbxyfleE88dYR1go9TEqZU6skKoKQlJDrtltWo4_sdTIOOU47xAsKBQ5ZSn4n29d63frN1hrJD9vLhojSgKqUej4f0cVdCxxnVih5npx1t3TgDPfrLjFtpY6F8x0T5y4RV1OFXhJmhrsTXXPdfGFLcyQAfF35TrHw78bUpeWSXYOdT0xKl98WpyAQMwCjaPUloYN1Zbvc1ObNUFNNFTp2E2EVSm_oyK9NoFvfseLwK3zGTLHnMvBsE64s0jwT2tI7g2ZULXOLP5A-- Received: from [87.248.121.167] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:14:12 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 04:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: n dhert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:14:14 -0000 I think you can try this:=0A=0A-y =0A--yes=0A =09Answer yes to all the ques= tions. This option implies -v and negates -n .=0A=0AL=E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0AOn 2= 010.02.07., at 12:59, n dhert wrote:=0A=0AWhen using por= tupgrade, from time to time, there is a package that displays=0Aan options = menu and waits for a interactive response (like hitting OK to=0Aaccept the = defaults and continue). Is there way to specify that portupgrade=0Ashould a= lways accept the defaults and not wait for user input?=0A__________________= _____________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list= =0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubsc= ribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:31:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AC71065762 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185738FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4567694.home.otenet.gr [94.70.126.150]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o17CVEBN012197; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <4B6EB292.4010607@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:31:14 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RMOhbmllbGlzeiBMw6FzemzDsw==?= References: <773922.15071.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <773922.15071.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , n dhert Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:31:18 -0000 On 07/02/2010 2:14 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Dánielisz László wrote: > I think you can try this: > > -y > --yes > Answer yes to all the questions. This option implies -v and negates -n . > > László > > > On 2010.02.07., at 12:59, n dhert wrote: > > When using portupgrade, from time to time, there is a package that displays > an options menu and waits for a interactive response (like hitting OK to > accept the defaults and continue). Is there way to specify that portupgrade > should always accept the defaults and not wait for user input? > And in fact, you can also use --batch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:37:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4601065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CAF8FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A9B5E117; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:37:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.835 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.835 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.140, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id x8YURcDUSib9; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:36:56 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130905E15F; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6EB3E7.70903@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100207 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu References: <4B6D40B4.70203@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100206124952.34cb5f1d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100206125856.601e513b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20100206125856.601e513b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:37:03 -0000 2010-02-06 11:58, Ion-Mihai Tetcu skrev: > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:49:52 +0200 > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:13:08 +0100 >> "O. Hartmann" wrote: >> >>> Since yesterday's portsnape and attempt updating my ports, ALL >>> FreeBSD boxes (running FreeBSD 8.0/amd64) fail to update ports via >>> 'portmaster -av' at the same point with the following error. >>> >>> It seems that that port jpeg-8 has been updated and now offering >>> libjpeg.so.11 instead of the desired old libjpeg.so.10, so I guess >>> everything depending on port jpeg-8 needs to be rebuild - but >>> ports/UPDATE does not reflect this. >>> >>> c++ -fno-exceptions -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib >>> -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -pthread -o ../../../bin/uic >>> .obj/release-shared-mt/main.o .obj/release-shared-mt/uic.o >>> .obj/release-shared-mt/form.o .obj/release-shared-mt/object.o >>> .obj/release-shared-mt/subclassing.o .obj/release-shared-mt/embed.o >>> .obj/release-shared-mt/widgetdatabase.o >>> .obj/release-shared-mt/domtool.o .obj/release-shared-mt/parser.o >>> -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>> -L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/lib >>> -L/usr/local/lib -lqt-mt -lmng -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lXi -lXrender >>> -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXinerama -lXft -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lXext >>> -lX11 -lm -lSM -lICE >>> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by >>> /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or >>> -rpath-link) /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to >>> `jpeg_start_decompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' >> >> >> That above it's the problem, kde team is aware of it. >> >> For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: >> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old&& \ >> cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/&& make&& \ >> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so&& \ >> portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 >> >> >> I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. > > You'll run into the same kind of problem with kdelibs3: > > > Making all in dnssd > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' > ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.kcfgc; ret=$?; \ > if test "$ret" != 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; fi > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkdefx.so.6" > gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. > > > The same workaround works. > > And yes, this means the kde ports are in wrong. > > I've tried this and I couldn't make it work! I then decided to remove the ports arts, kdelibs3, qt33 and k3b with pkg_deinstall, because these are the only ones installed that are affected of the above problem. I also did make clean for these ports. Even so, when I start installing qt33 again the same problem comes up. Do you have any suggestions on how I should do to make it work? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:42:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE5B106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0288FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id o17CgVV4015398; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id o17CgVHp015396; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:42:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:42:31 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20100207124230.GA14652@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4b6e5801.lWIkM1CRXy7E/cY/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4b6e5801.lWIkM1CRXy7E/cY/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:42:32 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 10:04:49PM -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? >=20 > If I remembered it I'd have included it :) >=20 > The first 3 results from Googling "xterm escape sequences" are This is where to start (the other ones are older versions): http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html By the way, it's the first hit when I ask google the same question. > rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html >=20 > www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Xterm-Title.html >=20 > www.kitebird.com/csh-tcsh-book/ctlseqs.pdf >=20 > I'd expect it to be in at least one of them. That's a nice assumption. However... --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFLbrUytIqByHxlDocRAg7TAJoCwpxoxZaTrg+DdyGtp8L/4c3htQCfZWy2 UhCXZFEngIvfkTgvS6KnkY8= =WmhJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:48:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F231065700 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67208FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id o17CmtV4016132 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id o17Cmtvu016131 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:48:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:48:55 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207124855.GC14652@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> <4B6E7EB2.7040408@bsdforen.de> <20100207124622.GB14652@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100207124622.GB14652@saltmine.radix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:48:57 -0000 --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > I finally got it: >=20 > printf "\033[22;0t" > This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. > printf "\033[23;0t" > This restores them from the stack. >=20 > It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I > am using), though. I wouldn't expect it to work with the other terminals - it takes usually a year or more before features from xterm get copied into other programs. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFLbra1tIqByHxlDocRAnKhAJ9MGmQ85UBDCeMOFgSYXfnEy5BBfwCgqbcM gxk7ssygaEAhbwicHx5IQDE= =XzRS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 13:54:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5104106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakncli@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFD8FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so1693437fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:54:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7ZStjShPxPH16Op8YFlWdJwO37/cA6CdSJ8LUItdRCY=; b=nmJ4lqVUYMwSrBX/H+Qvv5BXVyw14Mc+5K6SDJKeMTQi/Sc/FNdVgdMzVoqMIXyGEp 9YsohhGBBPgqFsEPnG+G91XzsGiJ+yvzeDVXFdCaG+lh3//5knt/Dz17uGfPUASkCHvg JxElKIzbug9z7xBakHxEigI/GOYsU77aOEMKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ww03gtq1M0r55A4LwyBN8RjT6Ba/D9jFrmvXQv7rP+KhmQ5ToxAjXR5a6/qHjUHfN3 cS3nN2/RSQ/F0HXWBPdBRiP9aUfhhWGBrLm5cqAfFyL2dC8PlfENH0dzuUWd/UE6Kqzm ayxoIMgnu7BgAV+PNx0RP3OqZ7OcBT23qXUmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.16.39 with SMTP id t39mr3844452fgi.46.1265550881788; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:54:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:54:41 +0200 Message-ID: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> From: yavuz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Cheating OS fingerprinting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:54:43 -0000 Hi all, I want to cheat os fingerprinting tools ( primary nmap) in my freebsd machine. Assume I am using freebsd 8 and I want to be seen as a windows xp machine when someone scans my ports. In order to determine target host's OS, nmap sends seven TCP/IP crafted packets (called tests) and waits for the answer. Results are checked against a database of known results (OS signatures database). If the answer matches any of the entries in the database, it can guess that the remote OS is the same that the one in the database. Some Nmap packets are sent to an open port and the others to a closed port; depending on that results, the remote OS is guessed. So to cheat nmap, I have to analyze all incomming packets (as a firewall) and if a test packet coming from a scanner is found I have to give appropriate reply packet (depending on the os signature I want to use). IPPersonality is an old linux patch does the same job. I want to implement a freebsd tool that cheats os fingerprinting. As I said, I have to analyze all incomming packets as a firewall and do some job if packets are comming from a scanner. Can I implement this feature as a patch to PF, or does PF provides some mechanisms to write extension modules? Can you give any advices? Where is to start:) best regards... yavuz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 13:57:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6211065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9382D8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25838 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 13:57:49 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2010 13:57:49 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06375082B; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5FD311CC2A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:57:40 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4B6DBC47.8050900@tundraware.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:57:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B6DBC47.8050900@tundraware.com> (Tim Daneliuk's message of "Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:00:23 -0600") Message-ID: <448wb5m9m3.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Clarification Of In Place Upgrade Process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:57:50 -0000 Tim Daneliuk writes: > When migrating from 6.x to 7.x and to do system refreshes within a > given release branch, I did/do this: > > - Get sources > - mergemaster -i > - make buildworld buildkernel > - go single user > - make installworld installkernel > - reboot Especially for major-version upgrades, you would be *much* better advised to follow the official upgrade method. This one will usually work, but it's not particularly easier than the recommended method. > I now wish to do the same to get to the 8.x branch, BUT ... somewhere on > USENET, someone commented that you have to also reinstall/rebuild > all the packages/ports when you do this. This was news to me. Is there > some reason the entire application base has to be reinstalled when > moving to a new branch? If so, has this always been the case or is it > new for 8.x? My 6.x -> 7.x upgrade went flawlessly using the method > above without touching the ports/packages tree. This has always been the case. You don't actually need to rebuild all you ports right away, but you do need to do so eventually (i.e., before you start building more pots). Your old ports are linked against the old libraries, and if you get something linked against a mix of old (e.g., 7.x) and new (e.g., 8.x) libraries, it won't work. But then, that's covered in the upgrade instructions also... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 14:37:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75BC1065670; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301E38FC0A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6B0422C5088; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:37:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:37:36 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20100207163736.66f2a6df@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6EB3E7.70903@eskk.nu> References: <4B6D40B4.70203@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100206124952.34cb5f1d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100206125856.601e513b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <4B6EB3E7.70903@eskk.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Rq=k83djv0lhfqUxYgTObXm"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:37:44 -0000 --Sig_/Rq=k83djv0lhfqUxYgTObXm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: [ .. ] > >> For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: > >> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old&& \ > >> cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/&& make&& \ > >> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so&& \ > >> portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 > >> > >> > >> I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. =20 > > > > You'll run into the same kind of problem with kdelibs3: > > > > > > Making all in dnssd > > gmake[2]: Entering directory > > `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd'= ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.= kcfgc; > > ret=3D$?; \ if test "$ret" !=3D 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; > > fi /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, > > required by "libkdefx.so.6" gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' > > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' > > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. > > > > > > The same workaround works. > > > > And yes, this means the kde ports are in wrong. > > > > =20 >=20 > I've tried this and I couldn't make it work! I then decided to remove=20 > the ports arts, kdelibs3, qt33 and k3b with pkg_deinstall, because > these are the only ones installed that are affected of the above > problem. I also did make clean for these ports. Even so, when I start > installing qt33 again the same problem comes up. Do you have any > suggestions on how I should do to make it work? Please send the make output with the failure, and pkg_info -Ia. --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/Rq=k83djv0lhfqUxYgTObXm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktu0DEACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeUC3ACgiS29w0C2Y1Y+CD/xf/gFKjhj VxIAniSKPUKsQyOq56dafUhTEiuprvVg =lHhY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Rq=k83djv0lhfqUxYgTObXm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 14:41:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0280B106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980F18FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.1] (c122-106-16-228.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.16.228]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o17EfXsv019897 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:41:34 +1100 Message-ID: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:41:29 +1100 From: alex User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:41:37 -0000 Hi Guys, Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second sustained transfer rate. Now that the same machine's raid is formatted with ext4, i am easily sustaining 86MB/s. I cant put it down to the operating system kernel, as to the vast difference in performance, i suspect it is simply ext4 thats producing the better results (I have come to this conclusion because no hardware has changed on that machine, only the OS). So can I safely conclude that ext4 is miles ahead of FreeBSD's UFS performance wise? I'd like to see some feedback.. I am by no means a linux troll. In fact I am far from it. I own many FreeBSD tshirts. I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) * The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer version is installed) * NO interest in developing new filesystems (forget ZFS), i am talking about a base filesystem, ext4 blows the socks off UFS. Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more than 5 years old now. It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 14:47:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E7E106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1138F8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.1] (c122-106-16-228.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.16.228]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o17Elfu3026490 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:47:42 +1100 Message-ID: <4B6ED289.2030300@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:47:37 +1100 From: alex User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:47:44 -0000 Sorry I should clarify that the copy was via FTP to the raid drive in both comparisons; FreeBSD with UFS: Maximum achievable when copying over the network to the raid drive = 60MB/s Linux with ext4: Maximum achievable when copying over the network to the raid drive = 86MB/s -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:41:29 +1100 From: alex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi Guys, Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second sustained transfer rate. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 15:02:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5691065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8388FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2780062ewy.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:02:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9+fd9nkbWTSQrZttliQGfbXx4z24z8mhqos1+FRH1h4=; b=OS7axYOdHK4xdMR8h6c7Ir55yCcYVTkYo5yxlxwBbfjAuuQPHbrYq9T6nQcqkyUEKH dIjOoWZod3d6E0nbjgTn7pXYVNJvKEn3IW6/cK8+EMvDJYjkXMO1gDi8Q39fsDyFwCpy Uexy6QvvOEehQPZ5L5i9+WOrA6YqPjbICp+40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bvIYsaJWo6mURV3k0Uw8/8rXxbM15zPboTlHxhdZFcFjFRyYGqX2AFDXnVm9y3pKVr KRyGU2W+AxmlrwWgnRj2OQXgN8sIW3S8wGQQ92EL9c3p2HJqzVaWTEi1FuPCtc+768/r fqguNZH+iHTIS3p/npHfnM0Cobi9WKyOKS7v4= Received: by 10.216.87.143 with SMTP id y15mr1741606wee.39.1265554936017; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm8539004gve.24.2010.02.07.07.02.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:02:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:02:12 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207150212.4e94824c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6E8D18.7000609@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz> <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B6E8D18.7000609@pp.dyndns.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:02:17 -0000 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:51:20 +0100 Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > RW wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 > > Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > >>> 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 kbps > >>> to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my question > >>> is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate , how can I > >>> do this ? > >=20 > >> Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to prioritize > >> TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what you experience > >> and solve the problem for you. > >=20 > > It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. > > Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. >=20 > Well, the thing is that if you prioritize your TCP ACKs you won't have > to do any rate limiting within transmission. You can then use your > full upload and download simultaneously. Don't you want to use the > bandwidth you pay for? :-) You can't get the full bandwidth because you need to set the upload limit at a level that can be sustained upstream in your router or modem; otherwise it doesn't work properly. You can't just use your nominal line-speed or let altq pick-up the interface speed. It depends what you are trying achieve. If your sole object is to prevent ack delays reducing tcp download speed then altq will do it. However, if you want to seed afterwards you need to reduce the impact on latency-sensitive protocols like http and imap. Further traffic prioritization does help, but I find that I get better results if I also set the client to limit itself a bit below the altq limit. In my experience tcp limiting also produces steadier uploads than altq so the average rate can actually be higher. On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:21:33 +0000 dhaneshk k wrote: > how can we control it within transmission ? Can you shed some light > in this solution=20 preferences --> speed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 15:21:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F54106568F for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF278FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112FA23A5E; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:21:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o17FLZc7001544; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:21:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:21:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erik Norgaard Message-Id: <20100207162135.29d13699.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> References: <4B6E0F66.4060707@locolomo.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:21:38 -0000 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:55:02 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able to run > privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: You can handle this in two ways: a) On a per-user basis, you can use the user's ~/.login and ~/.logout files; those are corresponding to the C Shell, and assuming that csh is the dialog shell for the user. b) On an all-users basis, you can use /etc/csh.login and /etc/csh.logout to have all users perform the commands you want to run. > - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, I can > mount /home) As it has already been mentioned, it is easy to use amd and / or automounter tool for that. > - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left from > the session. A system reboot? To clean up temporary files? Caused by an "ordinary" user? Excuse me, Sir, what strange country are you from? :-) Honestly, that's not neccessary. If you want to make sure that all temporary files belonging to a specific user are deleted upon user logout, you can simply let him do it by his ~/.logout script, e. g. using "rm -rf /tmp"; this might sound very violent, but it will only delete the user's files from the /tmp subtree. There are very few occassions you HAVE to reboot a BSD machine. Cleaning temporary files is *not* one of them, especially if you don't have clear_tmp_enable set to "YES" in /etc/rc.conf. If temporary files are left in other directories you know of, you can clean them as well. > Is this possible, without messing arround with sudo or adding users to > wheel or operator groups? Of course. You can edit the permissions for the programs you explicitely want to allow "ordinary" users to run, e. g. the /sbin/shutdown binary. A sidenote: If we're talking about X, the GiveConsole and TakeConsole in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/ can be used. Those are shell scripts that allow chown'ing and chmod'ing files to specific users, as well as other things. I know that a problem may occur when multiple users log in. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 15:55:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC2106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from piloyder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD38FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2804255ewy.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:55:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1QA93I8QrP0j1Mfi/qIjazSfy5c3bBc9cYRMZIi8TK4=; b=gYv5BCy5Lo3m+cqm9Z+MVLNa4H/jIMTJ4RNNL6GVxQrEf44h8H1L4flZ1VpOkE1HS+ WwxLaibFnyebZGNEWQW/5FwmdLTntKIZKpQHZiynz+jyuMYgqEEJiq1up/YLdaNjJXxS AK4TmJl3wxD/aDHb8WdYI/vQTK1bqcAnrMnw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vtjauF61mlosDdDRmlB0ShAUdBPkpb2YoXlMIlIcj/5XbhHSahxMhNSmZRvnB1TZKj On5XKZh5913xVEN7g+Mw1nP/KyXMPvgan+0BgvhYnWH1l9O63uv7PKwlcfqQBv4qZJGY rLxGt8SnRVIi70s5s09Ljpl/wQat+Qm5JyyXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.44.18 with SMTP id y18mr2764457ebe.69.1265556261331; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:24:21 +0300 Message-ID: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> From: Denis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:55:41 -0000 I updated from 7.2 to 8.0 from source. No I updated ports tree and try to update perl (from ports), but get the next error (version does not matter, 5.8, 5.10 give the same error): ---- CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W -Wextra -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels -Wc++-compat rm -f opmini.c op.c opmini.c op.c:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. --- Since there is no such error (tried to search on goolge but without luck) it seems that I did wrong something/ But cannot find out what - everything seems to work fine. May be someone faced with similar problem, what can I do to compile perl? Best regards, Denis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 16:14:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3A71065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95868FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so1798524fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:14:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dnNH7UiKtbAvgxtmBMEV1uNYgP3VhpnXtKkeVu3muyE=; b=D88XSxbjaoJx0rc98URf8kWWtJ8ijkcAXCxC5AEcWj0fz6nFCtxIRllabJuVE31V/z ZzgCQbCOIUeusHITOrUWvB860tmNrsZVMgx/ZscAFxr9vowohzFEMgkuC0qqQCEGV4Kg KZyCfdRVx9ueUzkQQyr346Aqc0VPs3/9dT9Yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iYcGqGolL5FJ7LYFZ2ad6pq+NfPBbnrFB3G1CKCMSexWQWO3bSiqUBx9eV7PFAEQ+J c9Ie3tTA/nqzqNA+LXWPBcqgJExqxFeLI43H9ZSxHz5TpgBitqCcnF/ANn8b0DnVF8vo 2BqTMRmiRwQHZvKlgT+5zQLI9mnDV0eH4ErNw= Received: by 10.223.77.85 with SMTP id f21mr5172845fak.40.1265559254218; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg ([41.216.197.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm1478617fxm.4.2010.02.07.08.14.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: James Colannino Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:14:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.95; amd64; ; ) References: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> In-Reply-To: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201002071814.25374.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2098885.e8g3DqyreY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modules and Custom Kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:14:16 -0000 --nextPart2098885.e8g3DqyreY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi James On Sunday 07 February 2010 05:40:19 James Colannino wrote: > Hey everyone. Please bear with me as I'm very new to FreeBSD. I've > recently started building a custom kernel after having had to apply a > patch to enable support for my wireless device (Atheros 9285) in > 8.0-RELEASE, and had a quick question about the process in general. If you are building custom kernels then you are not that new to FreeBSD ;-) > According to the documentation, a line with device will > cause that driver to be compiled into the kernel. If one of those lines > is commented out, does that mean that the driver will still be built, > but that it will be installed as a module? I didn't see anything that > told me that explicitly in the documentation, but that's the feeling I > got from what I read. I just want to make sure that my assumption is > correct, and if not, how to make sure that something gets built as a > module rather than built directly into the kernel. Not all devices have a corresponding module (or some are bundled together i= n a=20 single module). Most of the devices you are interested in do have modules = but=20 the module names are not always the same as the device name (i.e. network=20 devices have a if_ prefixed to the module name). =20 =46or further information have a look at the manual pages for a given devic= e. =20 e.g. `man 4 bge` shows that bge requires devices miibus and bge in the kern= el=20 or can be loaded using `if_bge_load=3D"YES"` in loader.conf(5). This impli= es=20 the module name is if_bge. `man 4 sc` shows that no module is available (b= ut=20 it does have many options that can be specified in the kernel configuration= =20 file). =20 By default all modules are built (even those whose devices are build in the= =20 kernel). This behaviour can be changed. For a list of all the modules=20 available look at /sys/modules and `ls /boot/kernel/*.ko`. =20 > In all, the process looks relatively painless as long as I'm careful not > to make too many changes to the GENERIC config. I normally just copy GENERIC and tweak it but there are better ways than th= is. =20 > Hopefully this isn't a dumb question :) I really like FreeBSD so far, > and think I'm going to enjoy my new experience quite a bit. Not at all. Enjoy :-) Regards, David --nextPart2098885.e8g3DqyreY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAktu5uEACgkQUaaFgP9pFrIURACggvKsyV35iIZBEN6N20MFa6Nu dAUAn33TeSjJdrObkVvxPHLs2jo6F/1K =E88a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2098885.e8g3DqyreY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 17:03:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCA6106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E1A8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o17H32j3072873; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:03:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o17H32In072870; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:03:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:03:02 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Denis In-Reply-To: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:03:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:03:04 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Denis wrote: > I updated from 7.2 to 8.0 from source. > No I updated ports tree and try to update perl (from ports), but get > the next error (version does not matter, 5.8, 5.10 give the same > error): Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? Do you have any extra settings in /etc/make.conf? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 17:20:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED321065672 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from piloyder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA93D8FC17 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2847267ewy.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ocrJf83sVc6yuhivP6NCAjwJunqcaSoTbulVKmpMgD8=; b=H5Pe0iHZMufgohgxuTCsWNsFVxUwAK6U3vxgWRhioRt4P5+RsAQLUpraNk1vI5+KO9 wvinYzqh/51ua/7i5tLUyKN0iKRyKd0qfPZJM3CCzedoXh0e2V3/UZ9muJCSwc2XxAKa WaBbD5Fz0YiPz/1d4u2e7fkE6oni/h1ZN497s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KqrQXlR7zBFFM0hSaQ+WHt3oUZVbws0kkw8DBK9BEsomxnUF6iq7UDolF15eiFeq7H E/cFKZe0gvn4FYKnE7aBCmLm3kRuAXvU/UGGxt8z1CX/Chkp4SoB8MVWHprlth5BgBAp zkSBCatdWiziXY6aBfk3Zl9oKpgJhCKtzrq3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.96.227 with SMTP id i35mr1150379ebn.35.1265563210523; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:20:10 +0300 Message-ID: <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> From: Denis To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:20:12 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Warren Block wrote: > Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? > Do you have any extra settings in /etc/make.conf? Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I get stuck with it. No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. Denis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 17:22:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AEC106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCE08FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeApT-0001QT-0y; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:21:51 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 537D74AC20; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:21:50 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: alex Message-ID: <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: alex , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:22:10 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop > for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 > setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. So you had a machine that had run non-stop for 3 years yet you replace the OS. Clever. > > Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network > was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second sustained transfer rate. > > Now that the same machine's raid is formatted with ext4, i am easily > sustaining 86MB/s. > > I cant put it down to the operating system kernel, as to the vast > difference in performance, i suspect it is simply ext4 thats producing > the better results (I have come to this conclusion because no hardware > has changed on that machine, only the OS). > > So can I safely conclude that ext4 is miles ahead of FreeBSD's UFS > performance wise? No you can't. What about the driver for your NIC? It may be nothing to do with the FS. > > I'd like to see some feedback.. > > I am by no means a linux troll. In fact I am far from it. I own many > FreeBSD tshirts. Oh well, if you own FreeBSD T-shirts that settles the matter. > > I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: > > * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from > gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. > * The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause > mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer > version is installed) Nonsense. > * NO interest in developing new filesystems (forget ZFS), i am talking > about a base filesystem, ext4 blows the socks off UFS. You say, with your in-depth study of the matter and understanding of filesystems. > > Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I > say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, > tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more > than 5 years old now. A codes age has nothing to do with it's performance. > > It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in > numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks > that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. Link please. > > I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. > > Alex Despite your FreeBSD T-shirt ownage, your post is a troll. Nobody's interested in your bogus benchmarks & opinions on matters that you are not knowledgeable of. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 18:19:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530FB1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from smtp2.es.uci.edu (smtp2.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238B58FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.es.uci.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o17IJgJ4024240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:19:44 -0800 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4B6F03F5.6000106@colannino.org> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:18:29 -0800 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6E3623.2070109@colannino.org> <201002071814.25374.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201002071814.25374.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modules and Custom Kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:19:45 -0000 David Naylor wrote: > If you are building custom kernels then you are not that new to FreeBSD ;-) Well, ok, maybe new is a relative term :-P I've had experience installing FreeBSD in the past (I need to be able to do this for work), but haven't done too much else with it. > I normally just copy GENERIC and tweak it but there are better ways than this. That's what I'm doing as well. > Not at all. Enjoy :-) Thanks for the help! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 18:30:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8131065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5BE88FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20149 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2010 18:30:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265567436; bh=OjIfija3MKWyCM9ujoIGCiT9XTEKbkpnoZPcmBXcvGk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rm7JRc9iqNdWG9u7egtNU66t+PuRAa21yv/48rlnU/4L+0rFyf6GV6aQY0OlUG9fpWvG6Jskz+J5pw7h+kIhYBegDesk0lvzo/Gn28lGj0o0JXel6QG3rBGWDMYYjXUpjQgDvffQBGnm21n2G1Npkwo6G8TWYcd/3EKPaHnwZuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0IgnUCc0qhsjv+/U8Z+8wd9Dii/WsNLm/qpFsgV/bkgDzHZv6TEDtZKQO73HdvuWniMjmNvaAOeJJjcRFC6FlxsKGoOsdsckY6Ym8A8GcPwy5y5UBjKUspLbjwjrnYih6o224rwZgaycNATdwgv4jFvTOHideWO8eEfhPsU3FOU=; Message-ID: <853461.19082.qm@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bXGp5gYVM1nd6av.E20VjEFAIdRqT0uOH0iGLHI6i_4tYzLd2Kcww0FRN15k88Fw6KzL40vaSCFjPvM7bIkMqS6bhzlx8GkPWYIlXnw83XGkLQm6COBixSpsoZbar_dxJ7ly46lya43ZWohPJdhH02CPa0gCF0yHngdwBODUunNmw7gES7KCkYhynPuwKzarWRR4ixY9bW4vDy6bsr42Rz09R6jIUkJ2CGz.3gRF_8dw17Pu73Soe3.VY41CG40ukAOy5d.E_mf3C_e.r8vAf7Q5z_7PeNcTM9U3BwokxTS5slAY.97ifO8nEfrFAbyJZoh9QATtSzYk7w_2liMDFLxrahkLdw1DpWAi6MR2tsLd9XhyMXSEBmrXYyVMUbT4MJRzAg-- Received: from [98.242.237.166] by web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:30:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:30:36 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Tillman To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B6E95EA.6090009@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Point X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:30:38 -0000 Okay bad news. =A0 There were just too many problems with this setup. I recall a few weeks ago= building an 8.0 server and it had troubles as well. So I reinstalled 7.2-R= ELEASE on this server and here's what happened: =A0 The laptop got an IP address and connected not instantly but much quicker t= han when I was running 8.0-STABLE. =A0 The download speed from ftp.freebsd.org was over 200KB/s instead of 39KB/s = like last night under 8.0-STABLE =A0 I'm still testing this today but this NIC at least (Saberent using the ral0= chip) appears to have big problems under 8.0-STABLE =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 18:31:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9144A106574A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6458FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o17IV74F073138; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:31:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o17IV7Db073135; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:31:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:31:07 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Denis In-Reply-To: <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:31:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:31:08 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Denis wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? >> Do you have any extra settings in /etc/make.conf? > > Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I > get stuck with it. > No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't run because of mixed libraries. For the 7-8 major version upgrade, it's usually easier and faster to save your pkg_info output, backup /usr/local/etc, and pkg_delete everything. Then update the ports tree and start installing ports from scratch. There may be a way to automate that, like feeding the saved pkg_info output to portupgrade. I haven't done it often enough to investigate. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 18:31:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FDC10656D3 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674588FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BC030F9EF7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:31:13 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlVKAPqVbktV4js3PGdsb2JhbAAogQqaBgEBAQE3uS2EVAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,423,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="34001098" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2010 19:31:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o17IVB59008783; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:31:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4B6F06EF.5020908@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:31:11 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100118) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz> <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B6E8D18.7000609@pp.dyndns.biz> <20100207150212.4e94824c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100207150212.4e94824c@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:31:15 -0000 RW wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:51:20 +0100 > Morgan Wesström wrote: > >> RW wrote: >>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 >>> Morgan Wesström wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 kbps >>>>> to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my question >>>>> is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate , how can I >>>>> do this ? >>>> Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to prioritize >>>> TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what you experience >>>> and solve the problem for you. >>> It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. >>> Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. >> Well, the thing is that if you prioritize your TCP ACKs you won't have >> to do any rate limiting within transmission. You can then use your >> full upload and download simultaneously. Don't you want to use the >> bandwidth you pay for? :-) > > You can't get the full bandwidth because you need to set the upload > limit at a level that can be sustained upstream in your router or modem; > otherwise it doesn't work properly. You can't just use your nominal > line-speed or let altq pick-up the interface speed. You're of course correct. I'm sorry if I didn't specify that but Daniel's article clearly explains it. The purpose of my response here was not to describe in detail how to configure ALTQ but merely to direct the OP to a solution that solves the exact problem he describes. This phenomenon is very common among people with asymmetric connections. > It depends what you are trying achieve. If your sole object is to > prevent ack delays reducing tcp download speed then altq will do it. > However, if you want to seed afterwards you need to reduce the impact on > latency-sensitive protocols like http and imap. Further traffic > prioritization does help, but I find that I get better results if I > also set the client to limit itself a bit below the altq limit. My personal queue definition is rather complex. Naturally I prioritize traffic like http, smtp, ssh, rsync, ntp and others over the bulk traffic produced by bittorrent. Since bandwidth can be borrowed between queues the bulk traffic is able to use all of my bandwidth when I don't need it for prioritized traffic. > In my experience tcp limiting also produces steadier uploads than altq > so the average rate can actually be higher. I have probably been lucky with the ISPs I've used over the years because they have always delivered a constant and steady upload to me. I set up my first PF/ALTQ-based router on OpenBSD, several years before it was ported to FreeBSD, and I have never looked back since then. No amount of application speed limiting has ever come close to produce better bandwidth utilization for me than PF/ALTQ. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 18:53:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC9F1065692 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6106E8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2010 13:53:00 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LKD22481; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2010 13:52:58 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19311.3072.653804.20511@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:52:48 -0500 To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Denis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:53:01 -0000 Warren Block writes: > > Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I > > get stuck with it. > > No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. > > You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't > run because of mixed libraries. > > For the 7-8 major version upgrade, it's usually easier and faster to > save your pkg_info output, backup /usr/local/etc, and pkg_delete > everything. Then update the ports tree and start installing ports from > scratch. > > There may be a way to automate that, like feeding the saved pkg_info > output to portupgrade. I haven't done it often enough to investigate. pkg_sort, which is part of portupgrade, is a useful tool. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 19:32:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8341065694 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-15.bnguk.net (atmail-15.bnguk.net [80.74.253.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD8C8FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-15.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeCri-000415-DO; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:32:18 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48C824AC20; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:32:16 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:32:16 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: n dhert Message-ID: <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:32:40 -0000 On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 12:59:53PM +0100, n dhert wrote: > > When using portupgrade, from time to time, there is a package that displays > an options menu and waits for a interactive response (like hitting OK to > accept the defaults and continue). Is there way to specify that portupgrade > should always accept the defaults and not wait for user input? What I do when portupgrading something that will require user input in an options menu is to use the -C switch to portupgrade. This enables you to twiddle with the options of all the ports before the main build starts. If you know that you want to use the defaults, then you can use the the --batch switch or put BATCH="yes" in make.conf IIRC. But IMHO, remembering to always give portupgrade the -C switch is the way to go. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 19:36:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155CA1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE7B8FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o17JasgD073360; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:36:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o17JasLP073357; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:36:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:36:54 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <19311.3072.653804.20511@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> <19311.3072.653804.20511@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:36:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: Denis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:36:56 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Robert Huff wrote: > > Warren Block writes: > >> > Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I >> > get stuck with it. >> > No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. >> >> You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't >> run because of mixed libraries. >> >> For the 7-8 major version upgrade, it's usually easier and faster to >> save your pkg_info output, backup /usr/local/etc, and pkg_delete >> everything. Then update the ports tree and start installing ports from >> scratch. >> >> There may be a way to automate that, like feeding the saved pkg_info >> output to portupgrade. I haven't done it often enough to investigate. > > pkg_sort, which is part of portupgrade, is a useful tool. That's pretty cool: pkg_info | cut -f 1 -d' ' | pkg_sort You could just start installing ports at the bottom and work upwards. The only thing that makes me wonder is that list shows wine above xorg-server on my system. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 20:01:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CF11065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98138FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1422446wwj.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:01:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vQGp5HVKtxBJeBS8qDDH9ZzQahpNQWoSck+EOfbeaSE=; b=RNiiCbyyBd7UuK7QLFnNjRZ+A9uC908BwS40o8FZzU4Y6udPQbGTg70gS1n2faL/AZ tVbWCgS6e6hrgjgz5j/SJfCO3t0xS45ndfKTrskOyRjKglJdkX+bpR4S6efjZJkuh1R8 ydFDA82X9hy6wrJa4CsLsQINvUosR87ATjmj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D1pqA/A4jdDwdhvSlCnNGCbsXZz6mj1Z3bImTO+sXM5croOvG3wld6XsDlCqhp+eHz +fS+cg28rxvDvHcrwPfLtGdlBSePAhBxi0FzqIfkdFHNWvuJh7qHqepOhOLEn3GuLks5 /DhdrXSb79lnePSAX1XARLnXvNK2J0GAtwfvY= Received: by 10.216.85.70 with SMTP id t48mr2126222wee.84.1265572878420; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i35sm9066837gve.11.2010.02.07.12.01.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:01:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:01:13 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207200113.32353635@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6F06EF.5020908@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <4B6DE9D5.8050301@pp.dyndns.biz> <20100207045756.5148b4a0@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B6E8D18.7000609@pp.dyndns.biz> <20100207150212.4e94824c@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B6F06EF.5020908@pp.dyndns.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: how to control upload data in bittorrent clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:01:20 -0000 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:31:11 +0100 Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > RW wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:51:20 +0100 > > Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > >=20 > >> RW wrote: > >>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:14:45 +0100 > >>> Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>> 1) in the transmission web it showing downloading is 10 > >>>>> kbps to 30 kbps but uploading it shows 50 to 92 kbps my > >>>>> question is is it possible to limit the uploading data rate , > >>>>> how can I do this ? > >>>> Check out Daniel Hartmeier's excellent article on how to > >>>> prioritize TCP ACKs (and other traffic). It will explain what > >>>> you experience and solve the problem for you. > >>> It's a good idea to handle this from within transmission too. > >>> Rate limiting works best at the TCP level. > >> Well, the thing is that if you prioritize your TCP ACKs you won't > >> have to do any rate limiting within transmission. You can then use > >> your full upload and download simultaneously. Don't you want to > >> use the bandwidth you pay for? :-) > >=20 > > You can't get the full bandwidth because you need to set the upload > > limit at a level that can be sustained upstream in your router or > > modem; otherwise it doesn't work properly. You can't just use your > > nominal line-speed or let altq pick-up the interface speed. >=20 > You're of course correct. I'm sorry if I didn't specify that but > Daniel's article clearly explains it. The purpose of my response here > was not to describe in detail how to configure ALTQ but merely to > direct the OP to a solution that solves the exact problem he > describes. This phenomenon is very common among people with > asymmetric connections. >=20 > > It depends what you are trying achieve. If your sole object is to > > prevent ack delays reducing tcp download speed then altq will do it. > > However, if you want to seed afterwards you need to reduce the > > impact on latency-sensitive protocols like http and imap. Further > > traffic prioritization does help, but I find that I get better > > results if I also set the client to limit itself a bit below the > > altq limit. >=20 > My personal queue definition is rather complex. Naturally I prioritize > traffic like http, smtp, ssh, rsync, ntp and others over the bulk > traffic produced by bittorrent. Since bandwidth can be borrowed > between queues the bulk traffic is able to use all of my bandwidth > when I don't need it for prioritized traffic. I'm aware of that, and do it, but in practice I find that latency is still improved. YMMV > > In my experience tcp limiting also produces steadier uploads than > > altq so the average rate can actually be higher. >=20 > I have probably been lucky with the ISPs I've used over the years > because they have always delivered a constant and steady upload to > me. It's nothing to do with the ISP, the ISP's the same in both cases.=20 My guess is that ktorrent's limiting tends to spread the uploads more evenly among the peers. > I set up my first PF/ALTQ-based router on OpenBSD, several years > before it was ported to FreeBSD, and I have never looked back since > then. No amount of application speed limiting has ever come close to > produce better bandwidth utilization for me than PF/ALTQ. It's the best of a bad lot, dropping and delaying IP packets is a poor way of regulating TCP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 20:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874CF106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD2F8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 11FF81DE322; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:26:49 -0800 (PST) To: n dhert References: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.1.12; tzolkin = 9 Eb; haab = 10 Pax Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:26:49 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:32:16 +0000") Message-ID: <86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:26:50 -0000 >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Shute writes: Frank> But IMHO, remembering to always give portupgrade the -C switch is the Frank> way to go. Sadly, I've run across Perl ports that still ask questions, even when being run from portupgrade, and -C doesn't help those. I'm guessing from this description that I should be noticing these and reporting it to someone? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 20:51:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B514B1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from piloyder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F788FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2965769ewy.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:51:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Afu5PsBCQYkl3jvYmXAMCKovJ0ArQvMIJuS+ROB9anM=; b=pXvKXHrv8NYZd/kE+7RRM5uMgWaIpg4hTfimt+pGR9d+w5334C2fwXBTsxlNl8fZke W1087vDsrBzlIYzDukI4hfALFgSLTcy1Gwg5XbP2zTEExIqgXI75aZnlL7AETvv5094L Ukr4rJohISPK9IMHtjyY/m3r1aOPNNoS9WPbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kp4rgW6vGO9uLJandckc3q9/b4PQrUdASu3nqBQY0KnIjW7wDDHuoPYGIXnGxoVZ+s ysP6RUGjJ93fVDW6j2lB0jnYvouCosTrKajdhyC6Ew7bASaJyK9B5g6R/wKJEMMgw+uB 57JvVJ5308zj730NjXELIlzZUGl9TmsJz9jyY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.96.195 with SMTP id i3mr4827443ebn.7.1265575884821; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:51:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <325305251002070724rb0e30dre8ef5db300b313e4@mail.gmail.com> <325305251002070920r1f0a96dbk110bfb1f33fe706@mail.gmail.com> <19311.3072.653804.20511@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:51:24 +0300 Message-ID: <325305251002071251paba11a4ue0c4ff51762478dc@mail.gmail.com> From: Denis To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:51:26 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Warren Block wrote: >>> =A0You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can= 't >>> =A0run because of mixed libraries. >>> >>> =A0For the 7-8 major version upgrade, it's usually easier and faster to >>> =A0save your pkg_info output, backup /usr/local/etc, and pkg_delete >>> =A0everything. =A0Then update the ports tree and start installing ports= from >>> =A0scratch. >>> >>> =A0There may be a way to automate that, like feeding the saved pkg_info >>> =A0output to portupgrade. =A0I haven't done it often enough to investig= ate. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pkg_sort, which is part of portupgrade, is a useful tool. > > That's pretty cool: > > pkg_info | cut -f 1 -d' ' | pkg_sort > > You could just start installing ports at the bottom and work upwards. > > The only thing that makes me wonder is that list shows wine above > xorg-server on my system. Thank you for your help and useful tips! The problem was easy - long time ago I made a link in /bin/basename to /usr/compat/linux/bin/basename . There for during perl config wrong basename was chosen and lead to the erro= r. Best regards, Denis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 21:24:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3E2106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0958FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeEbm-0007Ht-E0; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:23:58 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D7D3E4AC20; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:23:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:23:57 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100207212357.GA59613@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:24:22 -0000 On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 12:26:49PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Shute writes: > > Frank> But IMHO, remembering to always give portupgrade the -C switch is the > Frank> way to go. > > Sadly, I've run across Perl ports that still ask questions, even when > being run from portupgrade, and -C doesn't help those. All the Perl ports I've installed (e.g p5-*) have just installed for me without any curses options menu. Although I'd describe you as a "Perl power user" and undoubtedly have more Perl ports installed than I have. > > I'm guessing from this description that I should be noticing these > and reporting it to someone? Are you talking about ports that depend on Perl? Can you give an example of a Perl port that asks you questions? Don't mean to be obstructive in any way; genuinely curious as AFAICR I haven't come across one. It could be that the questions asked of you when you install the ports are outside the scope of a curses interface i.e because you have to type something in rather than (un)tick an option. In that case, the -C option to portupgrade or the --batch option wont work. PS. Many thanks for your writings on Perl, they largely taught me what I know of Perl and led to many hours of enjoyment. Many Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 21:38:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EEB106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DED8FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A9451DE564; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:38:22 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100207212357.GA59613@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.1.12; tzolkin = 9 Eb; haab = 10 Pax Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:38:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20100207212357.GA59613@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:23:57 +0000") Message-ID: <86aavk4tgx.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:38:23 -0000 >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Shute writes: Frank> All the Perl ports I've installed (e.g p5-*) have just installed for Frank> me without any curses options menu. Lucky. :) Frank> Although I'd describe you as a "Perl power user" and undoubtedly have Frank> more Perl ports installed than I have. red.stonehenge.com:~ +# pkg_info | grep -c 'p5-' 3314 red.stonehenge.com:~ +# cat MAKE_ALL_PERL_PORTS #!/bin/sh cd /usr/ports || exit 1 pkg_info -q -o -a >/tmp/$$ for i in `ls -d */p5* | fgrep -vxf /tmp/$$` do if pkg_info -q -O $i | grep -q . then echo "SKIPPING $i - INSTALLED"; else ( cd $i && echo "<== $i ==>" && if make missing | grep -v '/p5-' then echo "SKIPPING $i - DEPENDENCIES" else ( trap ':' 2 make BATCH=yes install clean Are you talking about ports that depend on Perl? Can you give an Frank> example of a Perl port that asks you questions? Don't mean to be Frank> obstructive in any way; genuinely curious as AFAICR I haven't come Frank> across one. I wish I could remember. Just that something comes up every once in a while and I curse that the upgrade has stopped. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 21:44:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C73106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E72D8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2995086ewy.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HznxyqeBww2uDYcvF55+odtJBGNDCX1wVGIfJ8XzYqM=; b=YHYPz26WHjy6wNuHAUUYCn+tlXSAUY/oudPowj5iHfc9eliqS544ajGzf0ho3+GOKD g6MRKGYxZO+NV1zk2IB9YHRwuLB8nIjK3hPFNmhj2mpXZMZxNZltBsX5rQGwUrdDAoqj r7MRScaU17gKgqgzkLWvwc73RkuYu9S8OfzUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VijasRfmXjhUXXXRAzE9XPXYb7egrxRKxoEZTbCU04cbGonvu/aJpw+FuXWW7+EiPa kTBh908IC8rh88Ze/5vDRQRioUG3U2BenWa3WiDXuw6jGgZmLM3sIsHySRWAx4eqqwuu MsSaJEiXD/9yOo3Fkr5Whdkt7Rb1DKeewZT5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.25.73 with SMTP id y9mr2457820ebb.96.1265579073205; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: <1bd550a01002071344k772436f0j35669029357a6c3c@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: 8.0 & flash & gmail attachments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:44:34 -0000 Hi all, I'm running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. I have flash support through linux emulation (linux_base-f10-10_2 and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42). Everything seems to work fine save a couple of things: - Sometimes nspluginwrapper crashes and dumps a core. Firefox 3 seems to work fine however and it does not hang or crash. - In Gmail, every attachment attempt fails. I think this is related to flash cause there is a flash progress bar while uploading the attachment. If I fall back to the old gmail version where the progress bar is not present the same attachment does not fail. I wonder if any out there has noticed this. I'm specially interested in the second problem cause it is very annoying. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 21:57:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2325A106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C2438FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Feb 2010 21:57:09 -0000 Received: from adsl-1.91.140.53.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.193]) [91.140.53.1] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 07 Feb 2010 22:57:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18S5qQSWBwSHhdhIW+PfTPXhuwCrvN9w3KVwefC/e SZKEH4b52yRWNG Message-ID: <4B6F371A.5070809@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:56:42 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yavuz , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67000000000000004 Cc: Subject: Re: Cheating OS fingerprinting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:57:12 -0000 On 2/7/2010 3:54 PM, yavuz wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to cheat os fingerprinting tools ( primary nmap) in my freebsd > machine. Assume I am using freebsd 8 and I want to be seen as a windows xp > machine when someone scans my ports. > > In order to determine target host's OS, nmap sends seven TCP/IP crafted > packets (called tests) and waits for the answer. Results are checked against > a database of known results (OS signatures database). If the answer matches > any of the entries in the database, it can guess that the remote OS is the > same that the one in the database... snip > I want to implement a freebsd tool that cheats os fingerprinting. If I recall correctly, honeyd does this and much more. Check net/honeyd. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 23:01:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C404106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279258FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.1] (c122-106-16-228.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.16.228]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o17N15bl023449 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:01:06 +1100 Message-ID: <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:01:05 +1100 From: alex User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:01:09 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop >> for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 >> setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. >> > > So you had a machine that had run non-stop for 3 years yet you replace > the OS. Clever. > > Yes I replaced the OS. Because the box was to also be a PBX (running asterisk, instead of just being a file server/web server for running local web apps). I was continually getting coredumps with asterisk. After filing numerous bug reports and hitting dead ends with the asterisk devs, I had enough, because none of them knew how to debug the problem under freebsd, I got fed up and moved the box over to linux, and to my surprise, no more core dumps. > >> I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: >> >> * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from >> gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) >> > > They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. > > Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers. >> * The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause >> mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer >> version is installed) >> > > Nonsense. > > You dont see having a set of binutils thats not SSE3 or SSE4 capable as a problem? It's nonsense? >> Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I >> say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, >> tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more >> than 5 years old now. >> > > A codes age has nothing to do with it's performance. > > Clearly you know nothing about how compilers generate and optimize code. If this isnt a problem, why would new versions of gcc and binutils continue to surface. Well I can see three obvious reasons, improved code generation, bug fixes, new features. >> It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in >> numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks >> that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. >> > > Link please. > > Sure, no problem, enjoy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 Go on, I am waiting for you to poke holes and attempt to totally invalidate those benchmarks too. >> I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. >> >> Alex >> > > Despite your FreeBSD T-shirt ownage, your post is a troll. > > Nobody's interested in your bogus benchmarks & opinions on matters > that you are not knowledgeable of. > > > Regards, > > I guess you cant see the difference between a troll and a complaint. I have been using freebsd since the 4.x days. It seems you have quite a chip on your shoulder, frank. Alex. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 23:42:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EADE1065676 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80E08FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.212.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE668A159F; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:41:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6F4FC7.5090705@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:41:59 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yavuz References: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cheating OS fingerprinting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:42:01 -0000 yavuz wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to cheat os fingerprinting tools ( primary nmap) in my freebsd > machine. Assume I am using freebsd 8 and I want to be seen as a windows xp > machine when someone scans my ports. > > ... > I want to implement a freebsd tool that cheats os fingerprinting. As I said, > I have to analyze all incomming packets as a firewall and do some job if > packets are comming from a scanner. Can I implement this feature as a patch > to PF, or does PF provides some mechanisms to write extension modules? Can > you give any advices? Where is to start:) Well, you can simply redirect all traffic to a port on localhost, where your service is listening. However, said service needs to forward the regular traffic to the assigned ports in order to not block your entire networking capabilities. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 00:51:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ACA1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10298FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26600067 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:51:37 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:51:38 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:51:37 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? Thread-Index: AcqnlMllVthFcU6xTR+spCSJ9MZBIAAC/B6gAC0PNjA= Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B255E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <201002070227.48003.pieter@degoeje.nl> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:51:40 -0000 >The easiest way would probably be the following. > ># SOMEDIR=3D/path/to/fbsd8buildenv ># mkdir -p ${SOMEDIR} ># cd /path/to/FreeBSD-8.0/src ># make buildworld ># make installworld DESTDIR=3D${SOMEDIR} > >Then adding --sysroot=3D${SOMEDIR} to all invocations of gcc/ld and/or lib= eral use of -I and -L gcc options should do the trick. > >For example: ># export CFLAGS=3D"-I${SOMEDIR}/usr/include -L${SOMEDIR}/lib -L${SOMEDIR}/= usr/lib # make I've done this and it's clearly working, at least in the sense I can tell t= he libraries are coming from my BSD 8 repository. My makefile is generating= gcc commands that look like this: gcc -m64 -DHAVE_INT64_T --sysroot=3D/usr/local/buildrepo/bsd/v8/obj -L/usr/= local/buildrepo/bsd/v8/obj/usr/lib ... I know it's working because if I rename the directory pointed to by sysroot= the link fails. My tool is still failing though in exactly the same way in= a call to kvm_read. The same call works fine when the tool is built on a B= SD 8 box. Is there anything else I need to do to make sure the BSD 7 built = binary is a fully complaint BSD 8 binary? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 01:24:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797621065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39968FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o181O1Y7022381; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:24:01 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:24:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> In-Reply-To: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:24:52 -0000 On Sunday 07 February 2010 15:41:29 alex wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop > for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 > setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. > > Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network > was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second sustained transfer rate. > > Now that the same machine's raid is formatted with ext4, i am easily > sustaining 86MB/s. Too many variables. The difference in performance could be due to: 1) Slow filesystem. 2) Slow network (nic). 3) Slow FTP server. The fact that the limit is 86MB/sec (which is very low for a raid0 array) makes me think the box suffers from sub optimal network performance during a simple stream test like yours. This could be due to FreeBSD having a poor network driver for your particular NIC or could be due to insufficient tuning of the TCP parameters for this particular test. You haven't given any details about the hardware, network tuning done, how you configured the filesystem, raw filesystem performance, raw network performance. If you want a meaningful response based on more than guesswork, please gather more data. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 01:35:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866BD106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2305B8FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o181Xx0E018259; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:33:59 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:33:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B255E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B255E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002080233.59464.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Peter Steele Subject: Re: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:35:20 -0000 On Monday 08 February 2010 01:51:37 Peter Steele wrote: > >The easiest way would probably be the following. > > > ># SOMEDIR=/path/to/fbsd8buildenv > ># mkdir -p ${SOMEDIR} > ># cd /path/to/FreeBSD-8.0/src > ># make buildworld > ># make installworld DESTDIR=${SOMEDIR} > > > >Then adding --sysroot=${SOMEDIR} to all invocations of gcc/ld and/or > > liberal use of -I and -L gcc options should do the trick. > > > >For example: > ># export CFLAGS="-I${SOMEDIR}/usr/include -L${SOMEDIR}/lib > > -L${SOMEDIR}/usr/lib # make > > I've done this and it's clearly working, at least in the sense I can tell > the libraries are coming from my BSD 8 repository. My makefile is > generating gcc commands that look like this: > > gcc -m64 -DHAVE_INT64_T --sysroot=/usr/local/buildrepo/bsd/v8/obj > -L/usr/local/buildrepo/bsd/v8/obj/usr/lib ... > > I know it's working because if I rename the directory pointed to by sysroot > the link fails. My tool is still failing though in exactly the same way in > a call to kvm_read. The same call works fine when the tool is built on a > BSD 8 box. Is there anything else I need to do to make sure the BSD 7 built > binary is a fully complaint BSD 8 binary? You could check that the tool is actually linked to the correct libraries with ldd(1). If all else fails, you could try building a full FreeBSD 8 jail or chroot. However running FBSD 8 userland on a 7 kernel is unsupported so I have no idea if that will actually work well enough to build software... -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 12:46:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C63106566B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B511F8FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id o17CkNV4016026; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id o17CkMxU016025; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:46:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:46:22 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207124622.GB14652@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4B6D62B3.4070702@bsdforen.de> <20100206125554.GA2173@current.Sisis.de> <4B6D74EF.2090106@bsdforen.de> <4B6D80F3.7050707@black-earth.co.uk> <4B6D8377.1090005@bsdforen.de> <4B6D9B6B.40800@bsdforen.de> <4b6e2885.uAuY+a00oT7AqSzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B6E6F24.3090609@bsdforen.de> <4B6E7EB2.7040408@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B6E7EB2.7040408@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:40:20 +0000 Cc: m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk, Dominic Fandrey , guru@unixarea.de, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backup terminal title X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:46:37 -0000 --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > I finally got it: >=20 > printf "\033[22;0t" > This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. > printf "\033[23;0t" > This restores them from the stack. >=20 > It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I > am using), though. I wouldn't expect it to work with the other terminals - it takes usually a year or more before features from xterm get copied into other programs. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFLbrYctIqByHxlDocRAqd+AKCrpqn8ouy8llENVEMdKlNYCFPiDQCdGUi3 EwhDXzBlMieknGsCxqUPrG8= =hqHx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 01:55:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D731065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD048FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so2635041vws.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:55:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UWCLJRykyfwOex0i2s/J6rr4cWUIYa7B0EQOKHZvxGU=; b=dRP0ZvvpgQBoZK80KPuzRH8+6ur1hPffPSB+U9IByWWFxcIHYV90EI6o/bA5pc/AV2 xGNXcfRt+XcWhgZ5wIMtGczAToag/YLLaPKWlUVDQLkdiZD2bGUWNO/H8f0/O071Imcj CYn0Q/CE5h0KQK5HRz8Gs3WG9PwmLIl+36P8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gkiNAO1lhT71dUQkce1qY7D9dyF0XNxHG3L/1M/GcjyNLcEE7TOZX4zyzY11aBbrzj banWCrdeHZ4r1udn+IaPKiNdltjiRsAmsuvsAxxKb+qVEvRPN+POvBEDIGR9siltD7vj ej4sDbFL0fftc8xgWVul6tr6KD0hRNy9gmz6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.88.165 with SMTP id a37mr7418720vcm.75.1265594143348; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:55:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208015150.A89D11F3EA5@spike.porcupine.org> References: <20100208015150.A89D11F3EA5@spike.porcupine.org> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Danny Edge To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Fwd: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:55:44 -0000 I haven't used FreeBSD in eight years and haven't installed Postfix since then. Can someone please help with the GCC error below? Thanks. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wietse Venema Date: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:51 PM Subject: Re: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6 To: Postfix users Danny Edge: > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. > *** Error code 1 You have a problem bulding GCC. You are about 100 miles away from building Postfix. Wietse -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 02:15:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51663106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f194.google.com (mail-pz0-f194.google.com [209.85.222.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242BA8FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so3728169pzk.27 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:15:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YK68ZEolwXzTscMkUAfe7N2Bw2HFtITulfkEJ39Xo8Q=; b=vqbLJu7au+2mHOl7mld+lKdLoiHFK6PEodlJfMZgjD6bdiOsM2wxn4SBPLLE8Cb1Pw taezkBwXcneb8JXjIwa1SFAUzsU62jM5KIx+hWJIi+hoIFYEL1SM4PQXDNRdoGytbcxd HddEFYl97/K3ASWf7hvzU1uSLQd0Hi/D+hfAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FrhUrR4mix/kD+uFqMGEBwWraR13NY9AGmaSUv2fqSpk0izp/KDbDhT3ppnwuH7hal 2m0wO4vI4aAqqyNZemFiHs/NafjFgD3GIZUbXpcfNXntVZzTpge8eVvvf8fWbesAWGHG q3wuaeqtU2egWCSSCt4UBOEt3gtripZ5pw5RI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.12 with SMTP id o12mr3848380wfa.171.1265595297648; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:14:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100208015150.A89D11F3EA5@spike.porcupine.org> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:14:57 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002071814i718cb790u160c77d4c6c26c2b@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Danny Edge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:15:04 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Danny Edge wrote: > I haven't used FreeBSD in eight years and haven't installed Postfix since > then. Can someone please help with the GCC error below? > > Thanks. > You'll need to include a lot more info than that. You can review this page to get the best experience here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html Since you've been away so long a review of the handbook would be helpful for you as well. The best guess I can make given the info you provided is that you're trying to built a port without being root. That isn't going to work, you need appropriate permissions. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 02:27:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788E61065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2E18FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so2642873vws.13 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dcRv3O3iiCe9r7hnXYd+1K4lqsX5YXbN+0KVlLAcAy0=; b=PwqMMu5igPaysylCBO966IaQ5nC6INnccBqpTUX7yZwoDfUBokLHLZoI08w2PyjNtG uci+9FTBsjzdiqHFXqeZ3tLRF/b3tAxG9DQFCXvbTOJ9viZirdJbkwZt6XqbTuPisrMz X0/J067T5ZGV8W+plt7IboHzGXukxEPHuwFig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I3LVm1abAWgf9yPNfPVQvc6jx45aJ4//xos2+KxLEuiMV8YWhjTbIAl7G1XNBWYESN 6u8y/UxKmM+Au0u5gU9cTng/HScp6IijbjPQsqDA1u0HADcYr0g6jJ8zpRxSIq4cwmeK 8a3WdMe/6NdTqHI4dcPeX9t5tVAp2IYpDtZo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.17 with SMTP id w17mr5023666vcr.16.1265596048500; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:27:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002071814i718cb790u160c77d4c6c26c2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100208015150.A89D11F3EA5@spike.porcupine.org> <6201873e1002071814i718cb790u160c77d4c6c26c2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:27:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Danny Edge To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:27:29 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Danny Edge wrote: > >> I haven't used FreeBSD in eight years and haven't installed Postfix since >> then. Can someone please help with the GCC error below? >> >> Thanks. >> > > You'll need to include a lot more info than that. > > You can review this page to get the best experience here: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html > > Since you've been away so long a review of the handbook would be helpful > for you as well. > > The best guess I can make given the info you provided is that you're trying > to built a port without being root. That isn't going to work, you need > appropriate permissions. > > make install clean was performed as root from the postfix ports path. This is a new install of 7.2R. What additional information can I provide? Thanks. -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 03:56:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F8410656AA for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 03:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CA48FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 03:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so2199689gxk.3 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:56:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jv6oe8jnclWxKYb00xsstxdNHLObM91znRC/PEjR/m0=; b=QOT1ZU0suLce3yAioeibkjIROwzxWRM46B2OwQEP8c0k4jT+ycSaYDcHKE0ZTtbuHv PfBl9ccwsKRlijLnxLZLJkHDOWzZWyxsKrE5SNYKt2lm//NA7gwh2ezNDig8+L8xABBq ha/VYIpOJHabegEyka8qRYSVf/AOLgepzEkMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iYMmGoRPX5hsEJspDOut0HeGZ0jBVxhAfkcQ32bmOPUCbmr2M6JZaqvueWOB4o+Rds OtIxzOHBRIV9qwK1Mv7lE5n9HW79/tBDl0T91vqwXKGlf7Q/4kvcg/ZQ7UsqtVfEGA8b KUcaG+ku6qWHdgqz15MCqQxHW3vBgNzskhSZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.8.22 with SMTP id 22mr474263agh.66.1265601368385; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:56:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:56:08 -0800 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem compiling "xfce4-conf" from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:56:09 -0000 It appears that there is a bug in the current set up scripts in "xfce4-conf." It tries to run gtkdoc-fixxref and snags on an undeclared variable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 04:04:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6241106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739978FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.110] ([112.199.201.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1844flP025371; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:04:44 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:04:15 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> In-Reply-To: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002081204.18715.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:04:45 -0000 Hi, On 07 February 2010 pm 22:41:29 alex wrote: > > Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop > for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 > setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. can you do the same for FreeBSD? Just install 8.0 and run the same test as before. As the machine running for three years, it could be that the wrong driver for some device was used. I would never compare a running system directly to a freshly installed one. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 04:10:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8CE106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FEC8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:10:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26607467; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:10:20 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:10:13 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Pieter de Goeje , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:10:11 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? Thread-Index: AcqoXvsilpAc2Jr/RcGrpUI3DrXDZgAEpZlg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B258A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B255E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <201002080233.59464.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201002080233.59464.pieter@degoeje.nl> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:10:15 -0000 >You could check that the tool is actually linked to the correct libraries = with ldd(1). If all else fails, you could try building a full FreeBSD 8 jai= l or chroot. >However running FBSD 8 userland on a 7 kernel is unsupported so I have no = idea if that will actually work well enough to build software... I suspect I know the problem. The tool I'm building links with a bunch of o= ther libraries we've developed, which I didn't write. I only modified the m= akefile of my own code. I'm going to have to tweak the makefiles of a dozen= different library modules. That'll be more work but it needs to be done to= confirm this approach works. I checked the binaries built on BSD7 and a re= al BSD8 system and there are clear differences: BSD7 binary: libm.so.5 =3D> /lib/libm.so.5 (0x800724000) libreadline.so.7 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libreadline.so.7 (0x800= 843000) libncurses.so.7 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libncurses.so.7 (0x80098= 0000) libcrypto.so.5 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libcrypto.so.5 (0x800acc0= 00) libdevinfo.so.4 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libdevinfo.so.4 (0x800d5= e000) libkvm.so.4 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libkvm.so.4 (0x800e60000) libutil.so.7 =3D> /usr/local/lib/compat/libutil.so.7 (0x800f68000) libthr.so.3 =3D> /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x801077000) libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80118f000) BSD8 binary: libm.so.5 =3D> /lib/libm.so.5 (0x800724000) * libreadline.so.8 =3D> /lib/libreadline.so.8 (0x800843000) * libncurses.so.8 =3D> /lib/libncurses.so.8 (0x800981000) * libcrypto.so.6 =3D> /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x800acd000) * libdevinfo.so.5 =3D> /usr/lib/libdevinfo.so.5 (0x800d67000) * libkvm.so.5 =3D> /lib/libkvm.so.5 (0x800e69000) * libutil.so.8 =3D> /lib/libutil.so.8 (0x800f71000) libthr.so.3 =3D> /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x801081000) libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x801199000) I suspect the libkvm library is the culprit. This list though is what I nee= d to aim for using the sysroot approach.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 04:29:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0AF1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B508FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o184TTg07634 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:29:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:29:29 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Breaking the sendmail code / sendmail for dummies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:29:31 -0000 OK - I'm chasing my tail here. I've been reading /etc/mail/README /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README and a lot of other README files, but I'm missing the big picture - I'm definitely beating my head against trees without a map of the forest. The last time I changed a *.cf file was in 2002, so my recollection is somewhat dimmed. In fact, the last time I did it before THAT was before the m4 macros were built - I used to write sendmail rules by hand. Somehow, there's a couple of really, really basic things that I've forgotten and cannot find, but I do remember how really, really messed up one could make things. Some things have just plain changed. It seems like there's two sets of files now - "sendmail.cf" and "submit.cf". All of the examples in /etc/mail seem to be so paired, and it created new files for me based on my "hostname" when I just typed "make". I think that knowing that is probably pretty important. A little background - elwood will be the mail hub. Any e-mail originating from within my local network should be re-written to eliminate the specific host name and only use the higher level domain. I belive that is "MASQUERADE_AS". In trying to make sure this is what I want, I keep running into references to the domain file and references like "../domain". Should I really be considering creating something regarding my local configuration in the /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain directory? That seems - wrong. It should really be rather simple, because this system will accept all the e-mail, and other systems will use POP and/or IMAP to get the mail from it. It is the central clearing point for all incoming and outgoing mail. I think that I'm really close, I'm just somehow missing some of the very basic configuration "tricks" or "clues" and I'm not finding them. I've got local-host-names and relay-domains all set up and it seems to be using them, but that must be from the as-delivered sendmail.cf (or submit.cf) file, because I sure haven't done a make install-cf CF=elwood.starfire.mn.or.mc yet. But, even if I do that - what about the submit.cf file? There's a lot of ".mc" and ".cf" files in /etc/mail already, goodness knows what it's really doing. Not me, not yet. Please help me get there! Thanks. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 04:46:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30357106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC588FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.1] (c122-106-16-228.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.16.228]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o184kCQK020563 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:46:13 +1100 Message-ID: <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:46:07 +1100 From: alex User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:46:15 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > The fact that the limit is 86MB/sec (which is very low for a raid0 array) > makes me think the box suffers from sub optimal network performance during a > simple stream test like yours. This could be due to FreeBSD having a poor > network driver for your particular NIC or could be due to insufficient tuning > of the TCP parameters for this particular test. > Hi Pieter. You are right about there being a number of possibilities, however: *The same machine, which over the years has had a number of revisions of freebsd on it (have buildworlded the thing from 7-> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 8), the performance was always roughly the same amongst the versions, I dont agree with the possibility of the ftp server being 'slow' as I am the only person who copies data to that machine, and the machine is always under a very low (almost non existent) load. * Network card is an Intel Pro 1000, on the server. This is a PCI card (not pci-e), so I believe PCI bus bandwidth limitations may be responsible for me not being able to achieve the maximum 100MB/s network rate (as you mention that 86MB/s is slow for raid0) * The intel network card driver on freebsd and linux are both fairly rock solid and well written. I dont see it being an issue with NIC drivers (they are not vastly different). * Both OS's were stock standard installs, no jumbo frames enabled, no fiddling with sysctl network values. I am happy with 86MB/s anyway, It's a huge improvement of the 60MB/s barrier I could never get past when that machine was running FreeBSD. To get the rest of the speed, I'd probably have to install a pci-e card on the server. I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred disk writes etc. Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), under ext4 the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. But what I said with ext4 being faster then the aging UFS still rings true in my mind, look at the recent Phoronix benchmarks for yourself and see (10 pages of benchmarks). http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 (skip to page 7 of the benchmarks if you want to see the I/O stuff relating to disk performance) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 05:28:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE67A1065693 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799178FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o185SK9J075010; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:28:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o185SK3H075007; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:28:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:28:20 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John In-Reply-To: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> Message-ID: References: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:28:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Breaking the sendmail code / sendmail for dummies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:28:21 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, John wrote: > A little background - elwood will be the mail hub. Any e-mail > originating from within my local network should be re-written to > eliminate the specific host name and only use the higher level > domain. I belive that is "MASQUERADE_AS". In trying to make sure > this is what I want, I keep running into references to the domain > file and references like "../domain". Should I really be considering > creating something regarding my local configuration in the > /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain directory? That seems - wrong. It's not recommended. Instead, running make in /etc/mail creates your hostname.mc file from the templates there. (/etc/mail/Makefile is a model of making things easier.) Then edit hostname.mc. Change the masquerade settings: MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.com') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`mydomain.com') FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') After the edits, do a 'make all install restart'. Done! -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 05:38:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6AC106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ACF8FC18 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:38:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 22915408 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:38:33 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:38:32 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:38:31 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is correct syntax in boot.config fo GPT partitions? Thread-Index: AcqogPKijk59MC6bSVODnAyCxYzyqg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2591@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: What is correct syntax in boot.config fo GPT partitions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:38:34 -0000 I've used the syntax 1:ad(1,a)/boot/loader in boot.config to specify the boot device. This doesn't work with GPT parti= tions. What's the correct syntax in boot.config for GPT partitions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 07:45:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B1B1065679; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81098FC17; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4543B5E056; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:45:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.837 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.837 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.142, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id g4b88mzqeE+g; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:44:54 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C915E05B; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:44:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6FC0F5.1050303@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:44:53 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100207 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu References: <4B6D40B4.70203@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100206124952.34cb5f1d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100206125856.601e513b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <4B6EB3E7.70903@eskk.nu> <20100207163736.66f2a6df@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20100207163736.66f2a6df@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060202050307030401080906" Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:45:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060202050307030401080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2010-02-07 15:37, Ion-Mihai Tetcu skrev: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 > Leslie Jensen wrote: > > [ .. ] > >>>> For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: >>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old&& \ >>>> cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/&& make&& \ >>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so&& \ >>>> portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 >>>> >>>> >>>> I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. >>> >>> You'll run into the same kind of problem with kdelibs3: >>> >>> >>> Making all in dnssd >>> gmake[2]: Entering directory >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.kcfgc; >>> ret=$?; \ if test "$ret" != 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; >>> fi /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, >>> required by "libkdefx.so.6" gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 >>> gmake[2]: Leaving directory >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' >>> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' >>> gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. >>> >>> >>> The same workaround works. >>> >>> And yes, this means the kde ports are in wrong. >>> >>> >> >> I've tried this and I couldn't make it work! I then decided to remove >> the ports arts, kdelibs3, qt33 and k3b with pkg_deinstall, because >> these are the only ones installed that are affected of the above >> problem. I also did make clean for these ports. Even so, when I start >> installing qt33 again the same problem comes up. Do you have any >> suggestions on how I should do to make it work? > > Please send the make output with the failure, and pkg_info -Ia. > When I run the command I get this pkg_info -Ia > pkg_info_100208.txt pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring Probably because the ports deinstalled are dependencies of openoffice! When running portmaster --check-depends it complains about x11-toolkits/qt33 audio/arts x11/kdelibs3 Please see attached file! Make output: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libmng.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_start_decompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_input_complete@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_start_output@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_resync_to_restart@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_read_scanlines@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_finish_decompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_read_header@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_CreateDecompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_has_multiple_scans@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_destroy_compress@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_destroy_decompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' /usr/local/lib/libmng.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_finish_output@LIBJPEG_7.0' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools/designer/uic. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools/designer/uic. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools/designer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33. 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boundary="Sig_/HLf3XDYZD2G58yHaF8Wh/QO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:55:26 -0000 --Sig_/HLf3XDYZD2G58yHaF8Wh/QO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:44:53 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: >=20 >=20 > 2010-02-07 15:37, Ion-Mihai Tetcu skrev: > > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 > > Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > > [ .. ] > > > >>>> For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: > >>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old&& > >>>> \ cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/&& make&& \ > >>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so&& > >>>> \ portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. > >>> > >>> You'll run into the same kind of problem with kdelibs3: > >>> > >>> > >>> Making all in dnssd > >>> gmake[2]: Entering directory > >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnss= d' ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./setting= s.kcfgc; > >>> ret=3D$?; \ if test "$ret" !=3D 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; > >>> fi /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, > >>> required by "libkdefx.so.6" gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 > >>> gmake[2]: Leaving directory > >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnss= d' > >>> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory > >>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' > >>> gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 > >>> > >>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. > >>> > >>> > >>> The same workaround works. > >>> > >>> And yes, this means the kde ports are in wrong. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I've tried this and I couldn't make it work! I then decided to > >> remove the ports arts, kdelibs3, qt33 and k3b with pkg_deinstall, > >> because these are the only ones installed that are affected of the > >> above problem. I also did make clean for these ports. Even so, > >> when I start installing qt33 again the same problem comes up. Do > >> you have any suggestions on how I should do to make it work? > > > > Please send the make output with the failure, and pkg_info -Ia. > > >=20 > When I run the command I get this >=20 > pkg_info -Ia > pkg_info_100208.txt > pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring > pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring > pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring >=20 > Probably because the ports deinstalled are dependencies of openoffice! >=20 > When running portmaster --check-depends it complains about > x11-toolkits/qt33 > audio/arts > x11/kdelibs3 Yes, since you force deinstalled them, while ports that actually need them are still there. > Please see attached file! >=20 > Make output: >=20 >=20 > /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed > by /usr/local/lib/libmng.so, not found (try using -rpath or > -rpath-link)=20 portmaster graphics/libmng portmaster x11/kdelibs3 portmaster --check-depends portmaster -a --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/HLf3XDYZD2G58yHaF8Wh/QO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktvw2kACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeX7yACfXU1IMEVVci69915PLT/vBdL3 SdwAoLQjBQDxfOiilfpMzf7Y+4sgdD4v =rVC+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HLf3XDYZD2G58yHaF8Wh/QO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 07:55:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FAD10656EC for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF28FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o187tSaZ011104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:55:29 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o187tSaZ011104 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265615729; bh=Hi6d/kTBexyLNwMM1fLqPD6mnfIkJVRt3J2W7TuTp30=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B6FC370.5030001@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2008=20Feb=202010=2007:55:28=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20"Randal=20L.=20Schwartz"= 20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subj ect:=20Re:=20portupgrade,=20batch=20mode?|References:=20<8021a2661 002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com>=09<20100207193 216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk>=09<86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.s tonehenge.com>=09<20100207212357.GA59613@orange.esperance-linux.co .uk>=20<86aavk4tgx.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<86aavk 4tgx.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Ty pe:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=2 07bit; b=hsub7PCDtzMWq+K2qLiXc0sjLSt7F98i82koZlndc36EnkjozmDBKXlfhU+CKfP/R FKRjMqjoxt8g1FHUN6IDAo93ct0s0cPxvgQJMS6639kEVbiexU+9vXEoeoggHRhr62 wFFp6TIl0zm/DoVfQwZf/Ju3ICdaq9b9uMjy4n74= Message-ID: <4B6FC370.5030001@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:55:28 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <8021a2661002070359g6c23344cq744a843024ebf565@mail.gmail.com> <20100207193216.GA59358@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <86eikw4ws6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100207212357.GA59613@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <86aavk4tgx.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86aavk4tgx.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:55:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2010 21:38, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > I wish I could remember. Just that something comes up every once in a while > and I curse that the upgrade has stopped. :) net/p5-Net is one I always keep coming across that asks annoying questions. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktvw3AACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSHgCdGgNb0qLSwc1UGOW2pm10XRhN bF8An0cAff8a0uJCpg9ZXAvUXTYnV1bS =QCf9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 08:49:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3D7106566B; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4A8FC15; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386475E05B; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.838 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id e-bbdmUdLNEa; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:12 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3595E115; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B6FD007.4010407@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:49:11 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100207 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu References: <4B6D40B4.70203@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100206124952.34cb5f1d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100206125856.601e513b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <4B6EB3E7.70903@eskk.nu> <20100207163736.66f2a6df@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <4B6FC0F5.1050303@eskk.nu> <20100208095513.1a7ac3a8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20100208095513.1a7ac3a8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:49:16 -0000 2010-02-08 08:55, Ion-Mihai Tetcu skrev: > On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:44:53 +0100 > Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> >> 2010-02-07 15:37, Ion-Mihai Tetcu skrev: >>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:55 +0100 >>> Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> >>> [ .. ] >>> >>>>>> For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: >>>>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old&& >>>>>> \ cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/&& make&& \ >>>>>> mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so&& >>>>>> \ portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. >>>>> >>>>> You'll run into the same kind of problem with kdelibs3: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Making all in dnssd >>>>> gmake[2]: Entering directory >>>>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.kcfgc; >>>>> ret=$?; \ if test "$ret" != 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; >>>>> fi /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, >>>>> required by "libkdefx.so.6" gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 >>>>> gmake[2]: Leaving directory >>>>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' >>>>> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory >>>>> `/usr/home/itetcu/wrk/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' >>>>> gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 >>>>> >>>>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The same workaround works. >>>>> >>>>> And yes, this means the kde ports are in wrong. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I've tried this and I couldn't make it work! I then decided to >>>> remove the ports arts, kdelibs3, qt33 and k3b with pkg_deinstall, >>>> because these are the only ones installed that are affected of the >>>> above problem. I also did make clean for these ports. Even so, >>>> when I start installing qt33 again the same problem comes up. Do >>>> you have any suggestions on how I should do to make it work? >>> >>> Please send the make output with the failure, and pkg_info -Ia. >>> >> >> When I run the command I get this >> >> pkg_info -Ia> pkg_info_100208.txt >> pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring >> pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring >> pkg_info: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring >> >> Probably because the ports deinstalled are dependencies of openoffice! >> >> When running portmaster --check-depends it complains about >> x11-toolkits/qt33 >> audio/arts >> x11/kdelibs3 > > Yes, since you force deinstalled them, while ports that actually need > them are still there. Yes, I'm aware of this. Added for information. > >> Please see attached file! >> >> Make output: >> >> >> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed >> by /usr/local/lib/libmng.so, not found (try using -rpath or >> -rpath-link) > > portmaster graphics/libmng > portmaster x11/kdelibs3 > portmaster --check-depends > portmaster -a > > Thank you! It all build without problems :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 09:01:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2131065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B7878FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28176 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 09:01:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265619683; bh=8zb/pqKhTIWrrogWS7oyAbbXzcyCckaSJ9RtggrZDyM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i0dbnt6fhHOh9husS6k3zcgdaxU//fkiih4gSJmae51zf6kCuyOMXNOgi91GQb13E1n8nwLit7GbHMmsHZO1EI4HLcjydNhzGm7nlh4U5+NJlbZx0hi5slVGnljql9y6PeJQiUOY08ZriNlu+shh5+I409tg5dae5fjNk1SgSpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:01:24 -0000 hi,=0A=0Ado you have any idea why it is not upgrading:=0A=0Aroot# portversi= on -v|grep php=0Aphp5-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2= .10) =0Aphp5-pcre-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) =0Ap= hp5-session-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) =0Aphp5-simpl= exml-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) =0Aphp5-spl-5.2.12 = > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) =0Aphp5-sqlite-5.2.12 = > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) =0Aroot# portupgrade -vr php5=0A---> Se= ssion started at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:19 +0100=0A** None has been instal= led or upgraded.=0A---> Session ended at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:20 +0100 = (consumed 00:00:01=0A=0A=0AThnak you!=0AL=E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 09:04:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A954106566C; 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amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/8GOy1Vx=g+wAWT3M=4oSQx_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:04:52 -0000 --Sig_/8GOy1Vx=g+wAWT3M=4oSQx_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:49:11 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: [ .. ] > >> Make output: > >> > >> > >> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed > >> by /usr/local/lib/libmng.so, not found (try using -rpath or > >> -rpath-link) =20 > > > > portmaster graphics/libmng > > portmaster x11/kdelibs3 > > portmaster --check-depends > > portmaster -a > > > > =20 > Thank you! It all build without problems :-) A bump of PORTREVISION of libmng was missed, and because of that portmaster didn't update it before trying for qt. I bumped it a few minutes ago. --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/8GOy1Vx=g+wAWT3M=4oSQx_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktv07IACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeU4jwCfdIgV7qXyAynzYBXu0V6R7Zgk /C0Ani10WjOX3C9luh49k29g2evvyGGL =UU6T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/8GOy1Vx=g+wAWT3M=4oSQx_-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 09:32:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA251065679 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653C88FC23 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3258574ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:32:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u6oYtF3vt2fVSvFaHYr5qtVF0+n0FwFHzdkKrIri7Ak=; b=va/8BJ3U37NjRisG474jMHwENNZF4Q7EKIunTAdr8yvAJ6uxBfKCh9pTcEEvQ5A78Z RMVQOYBfdc1h8noOM5bBBZNNzLmP6mp7cj6e6geEnhpXS6cj+WSrmGPiWBaUdSmtur++ 6pUVZwV3o+s45ij2FSBQf85SqcWt639TgOPPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SiEHY9kRkQLaGK+lhyPoYyQMDLafNv718oSRyqnA39VwE5n4TBzBmBgk48UoFk5mSn ScH1oO4yTeuxkk8ieG42kEO7xxe/pHGXxJxlzR8OHxkiMv+xPobbtP7qXRzOOycsJstU wNy7pBHpFt9u07+XNb8PrW31/ig4NgWUdG55Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.109.219 with SMTP id k27mr3606588ebp.37.1265621534252; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:32:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:32:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:32:15 -0000 2010/2/8 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 : > hi, > > do you have any idea why it is not upgrading: > > root# portversion -v|grep php > php5-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0succeeds port (port has = 5.2.10) > php5-pcre-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0succeeds port (port has 5.2.= 10) > php5-session-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-simplexml-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-spl-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0succeeds port (port has 5.2.= 10) > php5-sqlite-5.2.12 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0succeeds port (port has 5.2.10= ) > root# portupgrade -vr php5 > ---> =A0Session started at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:19 +0100 > ** None has been installed or upgraded. > ---> =A0Session ended at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:20 +0100 (consumed 00:00= :01 > Do you use portsnap? If yes, try 'portsnap fetch update' - If you have '/usr/sbin/portsnap -I cron update' in your crontab it will only update the INDEX files. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 09:34:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FF4106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371C98FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3260541ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:34:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5+kO6U4mif09HtCP2vXi/jSO9HARYuQd6jk4PNoW0m0=; b=eT4iPpWdXy1igY3e5s5+s/ol0sIQGX0D4vJWgTX3D7VPolqUHKYeLfnoCfUkA389Xw 8snPvdt1lhKbD/67ApgMlpEH4I2CPvp9WsEVQaEqL7ofe/NpEgWF18+gp4pzOC40DMZj IkY0k/0nSEALwTRdXzTM/B6MO8tTscJApkGOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oetoPxkNXqgGb7Sb2378Ji3OqByJ7rxBOwbXluHjenhwRPYXYYDzq+vhIhP0T3Tjlj anaNBGG2SN/L1Kvj+TGmnETCNDpbWsxtBZrOIhlG/6K0QqIX0D2o28d/qcNmF2fFEQB5 SDYz291I5z1j+WVjiDebbxdYquoaz2u9W9XF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.109.129 with SMTP id j1mr3638720ebp.49.1265621693080; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:34:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <9cbf3f071002080134y66aa2d0dka3f00ee6d453c563@mail.gmail.com> From: Artifex Maximus To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:34:54 -0000 Szia L=E1szl=F3! 2010/2/8 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 > hi, > > do you have any idea why it is not upgrading: > > root# portversion -v|grep php > php5-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-pcre-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-session-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-simplexml-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-spl-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-sqlite-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > root# portupgrade -vr php5 > ---> Session started at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:19 +0100 > ** None has been installed or upgraded. > ---> Session ended at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:20 +0100 (consumed 00:00:0= 1 > > Because installed version is higher than version in port tree (5.2.12 > 5.2.10). Have you upgraded your port tree before? Bye, Zsolt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:05:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B7106568D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 693DF8FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80883 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 10:05:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265623527; bh=ZE2BjmHAGCNpOORID5LC22mfd1z+yHn+zaPzgElJT2s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tMOfo1QFS1CdpxUSFH8SDolnfDn++zVRs+4TTOxRtn07WwxULkYL+2l1rFw6eAFSZRX1kzqEeoCRpAf48iAfdwfPt+JZcemW72YdLTBYCoXffteFbGvV9o0ukgePKUL8MU3gmaEsxkAsI08t7syYF0NOSjfI4t3D5HXCd13YD7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vQ4oJCxlik6KFRdttsrU6+6u8yidwywNYTPWN98ZG2VCMz5T06w9by4fAgPN3SN0QzyjRr4cHXhpi/USXFsMKnwlVpvQ9RLGHunC3dlS5ld26S2FFhQgxzdrliNAff36x3WhcpvUoPtwxKGXkOscXX5ZAtXBZxIl9AC2SpIWG7s=; Message-ID: <664115.74094.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y5LTx54VM1nVFr2YhPbrySwkA85ffB4cClmXfps3fppD9eDqX3tjr_qsnX_vAudLv.Td6RvctLCJj02Uw0FY6E2s0Ftj4W9jxCoXBBVab.kL6YO_JYKNlcbCyprjQhMwClEtpBNa7b4P6BqlqjZcIU3ljjTHKsVWRE_g0vrKrA8w32AkotFNC9oL4id4UhYnNHT8lrHBGyrAmWzksfoggVcW3U44NJaqKaSsNDCKLyq6gpROg._VZ6hMdXr7HVp6.qxTYL0lGpktFithVd2uml25h.YRG1.UjSqiAB4h_kGjCdWDmXaTO0BP__CrlwH6gyICNVWb9XGVeg-- Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:05:27 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9cbf3f071002080134y66aa2d0dka3f00ee6d453c563@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:05:27 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Artifex Maximus In-Reply-To: <9cbf3f071002080134y66aa2d0dka3f00ee6d453c563@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:05:28 -0000 Szia Zsolt!=0A=0AThank you everybody!=0AActually I use cvsup, and it is up = to date, but now I give a try with portsnap.=0A=0A=0AL=E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Artifex Maximus =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ACc: free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:34:53 AM=0ASubje= ct: Re: portupgrade=0A=0ASzia L=E1szl=F3!=0A=0A2010/2/8 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl= =F3 =0A=0A> hi,=0A>=0A> do you have any idea wh= y it is not upgrading:=0A>=0A> root# portversion -v|grep php=0A> php5-5.2.1= 2 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10)=0A> php5-pcre-5.2.12 = > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10)=0A> php5-session-5.2.12 = > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10)=0A> php5-simplexml-5.2.12 > suc= ceeds port (port has 5.2.10)=0A> php5-spl-5.2.12 > succeeds po= rt (port has 5.2.10)=0A> php5-sqlite-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port= has 5.2.10)=0A> root# portupgrade -vr php5=0A> ---> Session started at: M= on, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:19 +0100=0A> ** None has been installed or upgraded.= =0A> ---> Session ended at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:20 +0100 (consumed 00:0= 0:01=0A>=0A>=0ABecause installed version is higher than version in port tre= e (5.2.12 >=0A5.2.10). Have you upgraded your port tree before?=0A=0ABye,= =0AZsolt=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr= eebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:13:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEC1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baux80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f186.google.com (mail-pz0-f186.google.com [209.85.222.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A818FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk16 with SMTP id 16so6184824pzk.14 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=2wIfkDJplKIn8FrLgoonHeNu/KLdoiCsk17sQmU7pT4=; b=L9jfI1q3DRwgyZk+YvPm+lMWgnGA0qKy56KMxb8/Gdr+8z/tP926ZAW1F4fJmmivfH xHi1GakGaUjMkS6cbFjj7BS5NpEvwv5LLgWca0XGuG5mnweMyu6T156fErDsWL8hPtAl NkbJ4aEICSxpvsccqX5yUKo4oHtPON4hVj56k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ebm9sxr1tg5FQ/sR02xg1g0xllCF8liw5YIvnRVKZQiaG106jLBg/Cl+LT4FDg17vk IH94Mu+v4FNkbvy+uk3IHUEWdrXxdPN14rldM2KMd17XBV/+KQTRQg8k5wMKgpnJ31C8 I06FgYS4LXQRwUe3OzgBVaDZKOBQwjG3fqR+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.105.16 with SMTP id h16mr4353277rvm.15.1265622505068; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:48:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: Maurizio Boriani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: freebsd 8.0 on asus 1201 HA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:13:26 -0000 Hi all, I've installed freebsd 8.0 on an asus EeePC 1201 HA. All works ok but xorg. This netbook use Poulsbo chipset and GMA 500 graphics. Someone has a working xorg.conf for this? Is there specific video driver on freebsd or should I use vesa? Using vesa someone knows specific monitor frequency for this netbook? tia, bye -- Maurizio Boriani PGP key: 0xEBBFF70D => A5 96 C1 30 00 78 0C 78 57 5D 3E 05 C2 A4 6D 53 <= Crudelitas in animalia est tirocinium crudelitatis contra homines From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:18:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756331065679; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B8E8FC13; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NeQhK-0004bJ-3X>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:18:30 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NeQhK-0000cw-1i>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:18:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:20:00 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:18:31 -0000 Hello. I set up a NFSv4 server located on a FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 box (most recent world). It seems I successfully set up the NFSv4 service and this results in a successful mount of a file system by another FreeBSD 8.0 box. But their is a weirdnes I do not understand. Mounting the filessystem via mount_newnfs host:/path /path works fine, but not mount -t nfs4 host:/path /path. When doing the latter, I always get the error : Operation not supported by device What I'm doing wrong? Regards, Oliver P.S. Kernel has both NFSSERVER and NFSD, NFSCL and NFSCLIENT, /etc/rc.conf has nfsv4_server_enable="YES" nfsuserd_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" on serverside, on clientside, it's nfsuserd_enable="YES" nfscbd_enable="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:19:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2521065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp2.comclark.com (avmxsmtp2.comclark.com [202.69.191.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31678FC1C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16015 invoked by uid 89); 8 Feb 2010 09:14:12 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 16010, pid: 16011, t: 0.0389s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.91.2/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.173.143) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 09:14:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6FE51A.6010802@comclark.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:19:06 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Booting from USB flash drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:19:13 -0000 When I plug a USB stick into Freebsd 8.0 probe messages are displayed on the master console. One of the messages contain the rev level like 2.00/1.10. Is this info being retrieved from the USB stick? Is there a Freebsd command to show this information? Is there some way under ms/windows to display this info to compare to what the probe message says? Trying to figure out why I can boot off one USB stick and not another one i have. I dd a wim98 floppy image to both. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:21:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7095106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CE88FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1655462wwj.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:21:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zg0V4mBIYXrANTNezljzR1yqabvDEDZU/kaXasUDj5k=; b=Qdlz2SN+Vev+grqEK0ytPL+Jwv6fyWcVU99KIsf64VSQIrZpE7TxIIWk+qsKoQDw5I ASpKI2eRglHS1jn1OGIgRl2U7JMQURL3HXyMN39leOckDD1SJC1NLV69wjAJsliXcC2M uJ/OXyDZhAJ4mBrk6V8yZfeeu/TlApnsBxwLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JlhZMzfiZI0SrHq76XYncnN7ogpjqoAdi51DE08A0Xscm0daVBw2Bv4SaP8WZxHOeA EoP0XcOBTUglmRRSMkAFFmwTfyTkHAc0BW5MR9IwRojXMaEe7GhFSu9thTRv0h+2Obq8 ULzZCptvwC6GQJuUQxlXmsBldAYc+94JF/Jh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.130 with SMTP id c2mr2565470wef.44.1265624474480; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:21:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:21:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?ROFuaWVsaXN6IEzhc3ps8yBsYXN6bG9f?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:21:16 -0000 L=E1szl=F3 wrote: >Thank you everybody! >Actually I use cvsup, and it is up to date, but now I give a try with port= snap. It sounds like your index file or your portsdb are older than the rest of your ports tree. Try running 'portsdb -Fu'. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 10:54:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0A106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pdegoeje@service2media.com) Received: from s2m-is-001.service2media.com (rev-130-102.virtu.nl [217.114.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB158FC24 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pieter-dev-linux.localnet ([10.0.1.3] RDNS failed) by s2m-is-001.service2media.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:54:26 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje Organization: Service2Media To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:54:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.31-19-generic; KDE/4.3.2; i686; ; ) References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> In-Reply-To: <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002081154.26064.pieter@service2media.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2010 10:54:26.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[14BBC8E0:01CAA8AD] Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:54:29 -0000 On Monday 08 February 2010 05:46:07 alex wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > The fact that the limit is 86MB/sec (which is very low for a raid0 array) > > makes me think the box suffers from sub optimal network performance > > during a simple stream test like yours. This could be due to FreeBSD > > having a poor network driver for your particular NIC or could be due to > > insufficient tuning of the TCP parameters for this particular test. > > Hi Pieter. > > You are right about there being a number of possibilities, however: > > *The same machine, which over the years has had a number of revisions of > freebsd on it (have buildworlded the thing from 7-> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 8), > the performance was always roughly the same amongst the versions, I dont > agree with the possibility of the ftp server being 'slow' as I am the > only person who copies data to that machine, and the machine is always > under a very low (almost non existent) load. That's no reason to rule out inefficient design in the FTP server. I could write a program that sends 1b/sec over the network which serves one user and uses no cpu. > > * Network card is an Intel Pro 1000, on the server. This is a PCI card > (not pci-e), so I believe PCI bus bandwidth limitations may be > responsible for me not being able to achieve the maximum 100MB/s network > rate (as you mention that 86MB/s is slow for raid0) > > * The intel network card driver on freebsd and linux are both fairly > rock solid and well written. I dont see it being an issue with NIC > drivers (they are not vastly different). Solid does not mean high performance. For example, to get maximum performance out of my em nics I have to increase the number of tx and rx descriptors from 256 (default on FreeBSD) to 4096. > > * Both OS's were stock standard installs, no jumbo frames enabled, no > fiddling with sysctl network values. So you haven't tried to improve the performance. Nor have you tried to find out why performance is sub optimal. > > I am happy with 86MB/s anyway, It's a huge improvement of the 60MB/s > barrier I could never get past when that machine was running FreeBSD. > To get the rest of the speed, I'd probably have to install a pci-e card on > the server. > > I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the > difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred > disk writes etc. Ok, what did you actually test? File upload? Download? How big was the testfile? Was the file in cache?. > Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can > see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the > raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), > under ext4 the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. File deletion speed is relevant how? > > But what I said with ext4 being faster then the aging UFS still rings > true in my mind, look at the recent Phoronix benchmarks for yourself and > see (10 pages of benchmarks). > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num= > 1 (skip to page 7 of the benchmarks if you want to see the I/O stuff > relating to disk performance) The phoronix disk benchmarks are of little value in this case. I'll be happy to explain why if you're interested. Further discussion is useless unless you go back and redo the tests, this time trying to isolate the cause instead of making baseless assumptions about the performance of various FreeBSD subsystems. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 11:18:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8531065670; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959168FC14; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3343176ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:18:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=P5/IJcO1phr223/3IFRng2/vV7F/P4cft8Wsxadfkxs=; b=JXuXO8A6XyUf3qFaFEXBYtg3sUS5ZYrEaDE0mI8c6Gkfv1RLwW3ltqWVGO3oozneJn AXU99D8Z6u8VmuQyIoSG1+5xMj+EOC68atVjsO+7y5lL0fcofGYhbly5wOuGYiltxuuO XereLqYPxeorgbiVwZiLNjvz0zIHYIorygATY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=EtBFU8h33XsckVxUl2qSfHyszz1e3KE6KdH6TuHOvpS9p06R0lHsX99q4a8Il8Ui3B weutldrExF0zHllUWUaa3zdiuFEVdN7ia3covnIlP4JuEDarK4tX8td4+Bkp32AB+jpS TmAinbErc3wPFmNKpM6+DqUvU1cEXYHbYx2DA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.72.11 with SMTP id k11mr2572542ebj.38.1265627930562; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:18:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:18:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002080318g2e77999v73dd4d671c5a578@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: fbsdlists@gmail.com, lothlorien@pvu.msk.ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, net@freebsd.org Subject: NDISulator bug on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:18:52 -0000 On 1/16/10, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 1/11/10, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 1/11/10, Bob Johnson wrote: >>> On 1/9/10, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>>> On 12/16/09, Bob Johnson wrote: >>>>> I'm using an ExpressCard for wireless networking because there seems >>>>> to be no driver for the internal card in my laptop (and NDIS panics >>>>> the system). The Expresscard shows up as a PCI device and works fine, >>>> >>>> How are you using NDIS and when system panic what is displayed? >>> >>> I tried to use ndisgen with the internal Dell 1397 card. I don't have >>> details available right now, although if you need them I can try it >>> again. When I did the kldload the system spit out error messages about >>> unknown symbols and then panic-ed. I did some searching of the >>> archives and found a message describing the same symptoms, and the >>> response posted was that it indicated that the Windows driver made API >>> calls that were not implemented in the NDIS wrapper. >>> >>> This was a 64-bit Windows driver and an amd64 FreeBSD system. Similar >>> results in both >>> FreeBSD 7.2 and 8.0. >>> >>> It appears that kern/132672 is describing the same or a very similar >>> issue. It also suggests that there is a more fundamental problem than >>> the unrecognized symbols. >>> >>> I can try to reproduce the problem tonight if you want me to. >>> >>> Thanks, >> >> If you have debug kernel, then make breakpoint for MSCALL2 (kldload >> ndis.ko before that): `break MSCALL2' > > Should be `break w86_64_call2' >> Then load ndisgen module. >> >> Then single step it with `s' it should panic after few steps. >> At least this is issue I'm experiencing on amd64, it fails in >> DriverEntry(). > > with the same virtual address as in kern/132672. I fixed bug that caused panic on amd64 in DriverEntry(). Code is available from here: www.gitorious.org/NDISulator From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 11:41:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5B21065670; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DA88FC0A; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NeRzp-00018l-Il>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:41:41 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NeRzp-0006xG-H8>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:43:12 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: net/samba34: after upgrade from samba33 -> samba34 no client can connect to samba34-server anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:41:43 -0000 After upgrading from samba33 to samba34 from most recent ports, no Windows_XP and Windows_7 client is capable of connecting to the samba server anymore! I use the same config as before, did a testparm (it shows this ahaead: Load smb config files from /usr/local/etc/smb.conf max_open_files: sysctl_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) rlimit_max: rlimit_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) ). I have no idea what's going wrong. The authentication is done via LDAP. Using samab33 works without problem. Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 13:12:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5671065695 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8078FC1B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o18DBtt20193; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:11:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:11:55 -0600 From: John To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org> References: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from wblock@wonkity.com on Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:28:20PM -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Breaking the sendmail code / sendmail for dummies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:12:17 -0000 On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 10:28:20PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, John wrote: > > > A little background - elwood will be the mail hub. Any e-mail > > originating from within my local network should be re-written to > > eliminate the specific host name and only use the higher level > > domain. I belive that is "MASQUERADE_AS". In trying to make sure > > this is what I want, I keep running into references to the domain > > file and references like "../domain". Should I really be considering > > creating something regarding my local configuration in the > > /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain directory? That seems - wrong. > > It's not recommended. > > Instead, running make in /etc/mail creates your hostname.mc file from > the templates there. (/etc/mail/Makefile is a model of making things > easier.) > > Then edit hostname.mc. Change the masquerade settings: > > MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.com') > MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`mydomain.com') > FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') > FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') > > After the edits, do a 'make all install restart'. Done! Wow! Thanks, Warren! I guess I wasn't as close as I thought on the masquerading. So - I did all that you suggested, and it sure looks like it worked, but I still have a question. It did both the hostname.mc and the hostname.submit.mc files and .cf files, but I didn't do anything to the hostanme.submit.mc file. Am I still OK? > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 13:58:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FEC1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213428FC1B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o18Dwta21038 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:58:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:58:55 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Can loader.conf give you NATD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:58:56 -0000 The natd man page says it is still necessary to create a customer kernl with options IPFIREWALL options IPDIVERT Is that still true, or can it be accomplished vi a loader.conf? Thanks! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:08:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE021065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688478FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18E84vn022036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:08:04 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o18E84vn022036 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265638084; bh=cZaIJ/aebukwmoDzrlBjcZUkEm9kdVFhPgAqywYe8hs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B701AC4.4010902@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2008=20Feb=202010=2014:08:04=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20John=20|CC:=20Warren=20Block=20,=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Breaking=20the=20sendmail=20code= 20/=20sendmail=20for=20dummies|References:=20<20100207222929.A6166 @starfire.mn.org>=09=20<20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org>|In-Reply-To:=20<2010 0208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Conte nt-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encodi ng:=207bit; b=ypBtVXbzJ7JrZf+Kzy+yuH/kGOdUi7wH0gpPG4Q1dNKytX4RZc4A5NX7AxfyL+3V2 Y3tUhqC30dCY1sHOC62j7OUOJBYkIpTn+8ISi6mPxkJ8Ur6HZkk8Z5BHN3gyP+F4R5 qHcUPbR4enSX8byeWG3GiJ5bN+LdVvEEwGA5URbo= Message-ID: <4B701AC4.4010902@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:08:04 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> <20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Breaking the sendmail code / sendmail for dummies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:08:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 13:11, John wrote: > So - I did all that you suggested, and it sure looks like it worked, > but I still have a question. It did both the hostname.mc and the > hostname.submit.mc files and .cf files, but I didn't do anything > to the hostanme.submit.mc file. Am I still OK? Yes. The submit.mc / submit.cf files very rarely need any sort of customization. All of the real processing happens in the sm-mta (mail transfer agent) instance: the only reason for the sm-msp (mail submission process) instance to exist is to provide secure user-level access to the privileged sm-mta process without having to make the sendmail binary run setuid-root. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktwGsQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz5uACfcCOVYbgezUTXUVpQOj0dHXnf lFsAnjXD1uD8vsFuwvJK1ugi9us6B1zl =eCwJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:09:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E311065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527CB8FC18 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:09:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26649163 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:09:49 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:09:49 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:09:48 -0600 Thread-Topic: Should root partition be first partition? Thread-Index: AcqoyF/QnIkP4rLkQ5CGrawwVPme9w== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:09:51 -0000 I've set up a system with gpart and have the swap partition first followed = by root, var, and so on. This works fine but I've seen documents that alway= s have root first, then swap. Is there any reason that root should be the f= irst partition or can it follow swap space? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:17:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E88E106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.124.104.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977F8FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58218 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 14:17:02 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 58168, pid: 58214, t: 0.1924s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.95.3/m: spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 208-70-41-223.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg@tls.net@208.70.41.223) by ssl-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2010 14:17:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4B701CC8.6010407@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:16:40 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <4B6C94C7.6030609@pixelhammer.com> <4B6CBCA1.4080108@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6CBCA1.4080108@radel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NTP Stratum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:17:04 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > DAve wrote: >> Afternoon from Blizzard central in Indiana, >> >> I have three DNS servers across the state that I have installed and >> configured ntpd on. They seem to be working well except they are >> announcing themselves as Stratum 0 servers. >> >> As many times as I have read the man pages I can't seem to figure out >> how I *should* set them to announce themselves at a lower stratum. > > Not enough information about what you're trying to do: Are these > synchronized against an outside source of time? Are you using a local > source of time such as a GPS receiver? Or are your servers sitting > there with nothing but the undisciplined local clock and something like: > > server 127.127.1.0 # local clock > fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 0 > > in the config file? > > What's > > ntpq -c peers > > showing? I am syncing with three server from N.us.pool.ntp.org. I have no fudge configured. ]# ntpq -c peers remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== ns-01.tls.net .INIT. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 +www.broadbandja 66.250.45.2 3 u 510 1024 377 61.944 3.528 0.230 *point2.adamants 128.138.140.44 2 u 447 1024 377 59.360 0.863 0.154 +66.36.239.104 69.64.37.141 3 u 507 1024 377 28.763 2.623 1.182 I am pretty sure I am just reading the man pages incorrectly, but then others things seem confusing as well. > > As a general sort of rule, if you're synchronized to some trusted time > from somewhere, your stratum is going to be one higher than the stratum > of the server you're synchronized against, and you rather have to go out > of your way to override that. > Uhhh, the confusing part. Dennis Glatting wrote: > If you have them sync'd to external servers your servers will assume a > stratum lower than those. I vote for higher, I have no fudge configured and my servers are claiming to be stratum 0 when I check them from outside. But!! Never trusting my observations until checking again, I see when I tested that my clocks were off. So if I cannot sync, my server continues to answer time queries but claims to be stratum 0. I am thinking I am getting closer to grasping this. DAve -- "Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Adams http://appleseedinfo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:20:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08738106568F for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE168FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o18EIZTA057002; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:18:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o18EIUWJ057001; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:18:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:18:30 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20100208141830.GD56831@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:20:29 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 08:09:48AM -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > I've set up a system with gpart and have the swap partition first followed > by root, var, and so on. This works fine but I've seen documents that always > have root first, then swap. Is there any reason that root should be the > first partition or can it follow swap space? It should work, but there are so many things that might assume to have / (root) as the first partition on a bootable drive that maybe it is best to just stick with that convention. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:30:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C304B106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AC28FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18EUNMW024958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:30:24 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o18EUNMW024958 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265639424; bh=W4E5Z9H/f//rQYsOHZ8oiDVqwWUMCbzIqYjBMrAZjKk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B701FF8.20203@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=200 8=20Feb=202010=2014:30:16=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B= 20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=2 0Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Pete r=20Steele=20|CC:=20"freebsd-questions@free bsd.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Should =20root=20partition=20be=20first=20partition?|References:=20<7B939 7B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com>|In-Rep ly-To:=20<7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exgh ost.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signe d=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig427078F4DDD28AD6C2 FF4AEA"; b=ID7Yls7Id2DUe68U0vOpN8PMoBFSidqwVvunklXU6ZReDE1FoWTZ0oOzPmn98m9ja 0FGtv8T7cCmvZAApZIAu7w1G0v0w5xHBGDNquMfrEMYXPJqaOX5fCXYrdEKZDU9Pb/ CDKyGmOlWqDkiGtze7FMhHcJsnjEjys5RVhRNDmU= Message-ID: <4B701FF8.20203@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:30:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Steele References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig427078F4DDD28AD6C2FF4AEA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED, SPF_FAIL, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION, URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:30:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig427078F4DDD28AD6C2FF4AEA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/02/2010 14:09, Peter Steele wrote: > I've set up a system with gpart and have the swap partition first > followed by root, var, and so on. This works fine but I've seen > documents that always have root first, then swap. Is there any reason > that root should be the first partition or can it follow swap space? The root partition should always be the 'a' partition, but it doesn't have to be the first in physical order on the disk (ie. starting at cylinder 0). So long as partitions don't overlap (with the historical exception of the 'c' partition, which should cover the whole drive) you can put them in any order and starting at any offset. You can even leave gaps between partitions if you want, but that is pretty crazy since it just wastes some of the available space. There have been quite a lot of recommendations on how to lay out a disk for best performance, based on the observation that disk access times vary depending on how far away the data is from the spindle, and the expected usage patterns for the partition. Like any such advice, it has tended to become less valid over time. Modern disks really don't have any physical meaning to the Cylinder/Head/Sector style addressing schemes[*] nowadays -- and you're pretty much bound to be using LBA style addressing anyhow. Also, machines nowadays have so much RAM that (a) swap is hardly ever used and (b) access to popular files is frequently answered out of VM caches rathe than needing disk IO. If your application is so demanding that you really need to squeeze out the last drop of IO performance, then you're much better off investing in fast SAS drives, a decent HW RAID controller with BBU and extra RAM. Otherwise, don't sweat it. Lay out the disks in a way that makes sense to you, and carry on with your life... Cheers, Matthew [*] But this still pops up in sysinstall, at the cost of much bewilderment for the uninitiated. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enig427078F4DDD28AD6C2FF4AEA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktwH/8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIym6QCeIMKx48YfPRoHx+ne5q3/saJv ZgQAnApQHvVEVCp5ex0XkwbgYsp+Xi0u =Qkm6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig427078F4DDD28AD6C2FF4AEA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE661065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505b.appriver.com [98.129.35.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4AC8FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:31:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 22953720 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:31:34 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:31:28 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:31:27 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is correct syntax in boot.config fo GPT partitions? Thread-Index: AcqogPKijk59MC6bSVODnAyCxYzyqgAR5+jg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25E8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2591@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2591@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: What is correct syntax in boot.config fo GPT partitions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:31:30 -0000 >I've used the syntax > >1:ad(1,a)/boot/loader > >in boot.config to specify the boot device. This doesn't work with GPT part= itions. What's the correct syntax in boot.config for GPT partitions? I looked at the source code to boot.c and there doesn't seem to be anything= specifically related to GPT partitioning. So I'm puzzled: If I have a two = drive system with BSD loaded on both drives and the drives are configured w= ith GPT partitions, how can I force the system to boot from the second driv= e using boot.config? I've done with this MBR partitioning using either 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader 1:ad(1,a)/boot/loader to specify either the first disk or the second disk. I've tried various inc= arnations of this to select with drive to boot from in my GPT based system = but nothing works. My impression is that it isn't supported, except for MBR= partitioning. Is this true? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:45:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCA6106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505b.appriver.com [98.129.35.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A619D8FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:45:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 22956301; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:45:35 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:45:35 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Matthew Seaman Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:45:34 -0600 Thread-Topic: Should root partition be first partition? Thread-Index: Acqoy0tEfEbukHyqRXW1veD5h3pBUwAAR8mw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25F7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4B701FF8.20203@black-earth.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B701FF8.20203@black-earth.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:45:36 -0000 PlRoZSByb290IHBhcnRpdGlvbiBzaG91bGQgYWx3YXlzIGJlIHRoZSAnYScgcGFydGl0aW9uLCBi dXQgaXQgZG9lc24ndCBoYXZlIHRvIGJlIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBpbiBwaHlzaWNhbCBvcmRlciBvbiB0 aGUgZGlzayAoaWUuIHN0YXJ0aW5nIGF0IGN5bGluZGVyIDApLiAgU28gbG9uZyBhcyBwYXJ0aXRp b25zIGRvbid0IG92ZXJsYXAgKHdpdGggdGhlID5oaXN0b3JpY2FsIGV4Y2VwdGlvbiBvZiB0aGUg J2MnIHBhcnRpdGlvbiwgd2hpY2ggc2hvdWxkIGNvdmVyIHRoZSB3aG9sZSBkcml2ZSkgeW91IGNh biBwdXQgdGhlbSBpbiBhbnkgb3JkZXIgYW5kIHN0YXJ0aW5nIGF0IGFueSBvZmZzZXQuICBZb3Ug Y2FuIGV2ZW4gbGVhdmUgZ2FwcyBiZXR3ZWVuIHBhcnRpdGlvbnMgaWYgeW91ID53YW50LCBidXQg dGhhdCBpcyBwcmV0dHkgY3Jhenkgc2luY2UgaXQganVzdCB3YXN0ZXMgc29tZSBvZiB0aGUgYXZh aWxhYmxlIHNwYWNlLg0KDQpJIHNob3VsZCBjbGFyaWZ5IHRoYXQgSSBhbSB1c2luZyBHUFQgcGFy dGl0aW9ucywgbm90IE1CUiwgc28gaW4gZmFjdCB0aGVyZSBpcyBubyAnYScgcGFydGl0aW9uIGFu ZCBpbiBmYWN0IG5vIGJzZCBsYWJlbCBhdCBhbGwuIE15IHBhcnRpdGlvbmluZyBsb29rcyBsaWtl IHRoaXM6DQoNCiMgZ3BhcnQgc2hvdyBhZDQNCj0+ICAgICAgIDM0ICA0OTAyMzQ2ODUgIGFkNCAg R1BUICAoMjM0RykNCiAgICAgICAgIDM0ICAgICAgICAgMTYgICAgMSAgZnJlZWJzZC1ib290ICAo OC4wSykNCiAgICAgICAgIDUwICAgNjcxMDg4NjQgICAgMiAgZnJlZWJzZC1zd2FwICAoMzJHKQ0K ICAgNjcxMDg5MTQgICA2NzEwODg2NCAgICAzICBmcmVlYnNkLXN3YXAgICgzMkcpDQogIDEzNDIx Nzc3OCAgIDEwNDg1NzYwICAgIDQgIGZyZWVic2QtdWZzICAoNS4wRykNCiAgMTQ0NzAzNTM4ICAg MjUxNjU4MjQgICAgNSAgZnJlZWJzZC11ZnMgICgxMkcpDQogIDE2OTg2OTM2MiAgICA1NzkyNTU3 ICAgIDYgIGZyZWVic2QtdWZzICAoMi44RykNCiAgMTc1NjYxOTE5ICAyODMxMTU1MjAgICAgNyAg ZnJlZWJzZC11ZnMgICgxMzVHKQ0KICA0NTg3Nzc0MzkgICAzMTQ1NzI4MCAgICA4ICBmcmVlYnNk LXVmcyAgKDE1RykNCg0KUGFydGl0aW9uIDQgKGFkNHA0KSBpcyB0aGUgcm9vdCBwYXJ0aXRpb24u IFRoaXMgd29ya3MgZmluZSwgYnV0IEkgd2FzIGp1c3Qgd29uZGVyaW5nIHdoeSBJJ3ZlIHNlZW4g bGF5b3V0cyB3aXRoIHJvb3QgZmlyc3QsIHRoZW4gc3dhcCwgdGhlbiB2YXIsIGV0Yy4gVGhlIG9u bHkgcHJvYmxlbSBJJ3ZlIGhhZCBpcyB0aGF0IEkgY2Fubm90IGZpbmQgYSB3YXkgdG8gdGVsbCB0 aGUgYm9vdCBsb2FkZXIgdG8gYm9vdCBmcm9tIGFuIGFsdGVybmF0ZSBkcml2ZSBzaW5jZSBpdCBz ZWVtcyB0byBleHBlY3QgTUJSIHBhcnRpdGlvbmluZyB3aGVuIHVzaW5nIGEgcmVmZXJlbmNlIHN1 Y2ggYXMgNDphZCg0LGEpL2Jvb3QvbG9hZGVyLiBUaGF0J3MgYSBzZXBhcmF0ZSBpc3N1ZSB0aG91 Z2guDQoNCg0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:51:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F321D1065679 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0518FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18EpCWq001864 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:51:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B7024DF.4020506@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:51:11 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VirtualBox crashes after system upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yuri List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:51:13 -0000 I updated the system, both kernel and ports. It's 8.0-STABLE. vbox ports were reinstalled after the kernel: virtualbox-ose-3.1.2_1 virtualbox-ose-kmod-3.1.2_1 Now my system crashes when I try to start the virtual machine. Anybody has the same problem? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:52:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E4210656FF for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DeckerR@brevardcc.edu) Received: from cocoaironport.brevard.cc.fl.us (cocoaironport.brevard.cc.fl.us [169.139.190.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317628FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswBAJusb0usGBg1/2dsb2JhbAAIgWPJDYN5iFSEVAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,430,1262581200"; d="scan'208,217";a="42242869" Received: from cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us ([172.24.24.53]) by cocoaironport.brevard.cc.fl.us with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 09:23:42 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE17D09128@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The first file loaded is? Thread-Index: AcqoylBCjnolP7RqQ9OzVnk9KYX+9g== From: "Decker, Ross" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The first file loaded is? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:52:46 -0000 I'm just starting my adventure into BSD along with C++. I know that this OS gives you all the source files that are used in the OS. What I'm asking, is what is the name of the first file that is loaded and where is the source file for it? I want to start with the very first line of code and see if I can step my way through the entire boot process. There are many things that I see during boot up that I have no idea what they are (SMAP Type....) that aren't that Google Friendly. So if anyone knows the names of the source files and their locations for the boot sequence could you please post them..... SUPER thank you's! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 14:53:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24011065697 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97388FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18ErmKB002601 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B70257C.9090008@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:53:48 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mozilla and thunderbird tray icons missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:53:49 -0000 Those two icons went missing. When they are running windows and panel tabs show some generic X icons instead. Ho does xserver determine which icon to show for the particular app? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:00:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5545A106568B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB96E8FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeV5l-0006xD-2x; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:00:01 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D8E9D4AC20; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:00 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: alex Message-ID: <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: alex , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:00:17 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:01:05AM +1100, alex wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > > > >>Hi Guys, > >> > >>Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop > >>for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 > >>setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. > >> > > > >So you had a machine that had run non-stop for 3 years yet you replace > >the OS. Clever. > > > > > > Yes I replaced the OS. Because the box was to also be a PBX (running > asterisk, instead of just being a file server/web server for running > local web apps). I was continually getting coredumps with asterisk. > After filing numerous bug reports and hitting dead ends with the > asterisk devs, I had enough, because none of them knew how to debug the > problem under freebsd, I got fed up and moved the box over to linux, and > to my surprise, no more core dumps. Fair enough. > > > > >>I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: > >> > >>* The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from > >>gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) > >> > > > >They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. > > > > > > Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers. AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for ports you'll install a compiler from ports. > >>* The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause > >>mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer > >>version is installed) > >> > > > >Nonsense. > > > > > You dont see having a set of binutils thats not SSE3 or SSE4 capable as > a problem? It's nonsense? I'm not saying that. I don't remember having to install new binutils to install mplayer. > >>Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I > >>say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, > >>tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more > >>than 5 years old now. > >> > > > >A codes age has nothing to do with it's performance. > > > > > Clearly you know nothing about how compilers generate and optimize code. > If this isnt a problem, why would new versions of gcc and binutils > continue to surface. Well I can see three obvious reasons, improved code > generation, bug fixes, new features. There isn't some vast jump in performance provided by an up to date and buggy as hell version of gcc. The improved code performance isn't worth swallowing some daft, verbiose, impenetrable licence for either. > >>It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in > >>numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks > >>that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. > >> > > > >Link please. > > > > > Sure, no problem, enjoy: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 > > Go on, I am waiting for you to poke holes and attempt to totally > invalidate those benchmarks too. On the whole, I don't believe in benchmarks. They don't even tell half the story when it comes to choosing an OS and they're always rather dubious IMO. > >>I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. > >> > >>Alex > >> > > > >Despite your FreeBSD T-shirt ownage, your post is a troll. > > > >Nobody's interested in your bogus benchmarks & opinions on matters > >that you are not knowledgeable of. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > I guess you cant see the difference between a troll and a complaint. I > have been using freebsd since the 4.x days. It seems you have quite a > chip on your shoulder, frank. Heh, I resemble that remark! I'm well balanced - chip on both shoulders ;) FYI, I've used FreeBSD since 4.3 and before that I used Linux. Linux has a rather nasty thrown together feeling about it in comparison and the scheduler on Linux in those days was bloody useless: it had trouble handling more than one task. So it's swings and roundabouts. Linux maybe more performant but it's got (had) it's problems. Don't know about nowadays but I've got no reason to go back and try it again ATM. If you do, good luck to you! > > Alex. > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:00:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707431065694 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208228FC24 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:33 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAu1b0uDaFvH/2dsb2JhbADXPIRUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,430,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="64634347" Received: from danube.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.91.199]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 09:57:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by danube.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA9B10840B1; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:57:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at danube.cs.uoguelph.ca Received: from danube.cs.uoguelph.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (danube.cs.uoguelph.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8LJpH1AdreU; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.102]) by danube.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D6A1084073; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmacklem@localhost) by muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o18F8he27625; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:08:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca: rmacklem owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem X-X-Sender: rmacklem@muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:00:34 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Mounting the filessystem via > > mount_newnfs host:/path /path > Oh, and you should set: sysctl vfs.newnfs.locallocks_enable=0 in the server, since I haven't fixed the local locking yet. (This implies that apps/daemons running locally on the server won't see byte range locks performed by NFSv4 clients.) However, byte range locking between NFSv4 clients should work ok. rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5F41065695 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D168FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o18F0cai077580; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:00:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o18F0cff077577; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:00:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:00:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John In-Reply-To: <20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org> Message-ID: References: <20100207222929.A6166@starfire.mn.org> <20100208071155.B19928@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:00:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Breaking the sendmail code / sendmail for dummies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:00:39 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, John wrote: ... > So - I did all that you suggested, and it sure looks like it worked, > but I still have a question. It did both the hostname.mc and the > hostname.submit.mc files and .cf files, but I didn't do anything > to the hostanme.submit.mc file. Am I still OK? Yes, editing hostname.mc should be all that's necessary. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:13:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAAB106568B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5561E8FC2E for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeVIy-0001la-97 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:13:40 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:13:40 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:13:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:12:48 +0100 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE17D09128@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20100118 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE17D09128@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> Sender: news Subject: Re: The first file loaded is? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:13:51 -0000 On 02/08/10 15:23, Decker, Ross wrote: > I'm just starting my adventure into BSD along with C++. I know that > this OS gives you all the source files that are used in the OS. What I'm > asking, is what is the name of the first file that is loaded and where > is the source file for it? I want to start with the very first line of > code and see if I can step my way through the entire boot process. There > are many things that I see during boot up that I have no idea what they > are (SMAP Type....) that aren't that Google Friendly. > > So if anyone knows the names of the source files and their locations for > the boot sequence could you please post them..... SUPER thank you's! Your question is very vague. The first executed code on an IBM-PC is the boot loader, look at sys/boot/boot0. First executed lines of the kernel are at mi_startup() in sys/kern/init_main.c. First executed lines of userland code are in the "init" process, in sbin/init/init.c. All paths are relative to /usr/src. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:18:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF6B106568F for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C258FC29 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALKyb0uDaFvJ/2dsb2JhbADXNoRUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,430,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="64633266" Received: from ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.91.201]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 09:49:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952BFFB809E; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca Received: from ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxaLLfpZ7EEy; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.102]) by ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB92FB808D; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmacklem@localhost) by muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o18F13J26546; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:01:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca: rmacklem owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:01:03 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem X-X-Sender: rmacklem@muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:18:35 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Mounting the filessystem via > > mount_newnfs host:/path /path > > works fine, but not > > mount -t nfs4 host:/path /path. > The mount command can be either: mount -t nfs -o nfsv4 host:/path /path or mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 host:/path /path (The above was what the old now removed nfs4 used.) Have fun with it, rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:22:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D7B1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE68FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o18FMliR077702; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:22:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o18FMlG8077699; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:22:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:22:47 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= In-Reply-To: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <693294.27880.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:22:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:22:48 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote: > do you have any idea why it is not upgrading: > > root# portversion -v|grep php > php5-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-pcre-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-session-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-simplexml-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-spl-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > php5-sqlite-5.2.12 > succeeds port (port has 5.2.10) > root# portupgrade -vr php5 > ---> Session started at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:19 +0100 > ** None has been installed or upgraded. > ---> Session ended at: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:40:20 +0100 (consumed 00:00:01 Because you already have newer versions than are in ports, 5.2.12 installed when the port still has 5.2.10. This can happen if the ports tree or index file is outdated. csup/portsnap, run pkgdb -Fu, and try it again. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:34:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EFA1065693 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from n4b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n4b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B91638FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2010 15:33:59 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.87] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2010 15:33:59 -0000 Received: from [66.196.114.76] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2010 15:33:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp305.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2010 15:33:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 478668.25065.bm@omp305.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33452 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 15:33:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265643237; bh=/TM8rRMn2C2UYilOyo+jLSx6THgxQUJavFZpbLFQr0E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XEo02pvJh4K6aZIjh1IbXAkAHkx3ux41sj6ip0AnFuMBxWGJJyvdBV1/4vgQ1x2+tdxQI+P6oL+v5eTU0yglYtknCIjBYMgzZhgGsYWGSzrJH+D7YA0dXJOhS3O7EM8MPVnT44aqlkQAmJhPstXW+DHOKZr8e7FmexQs0xJJoIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T+NGJmMixJ8lVptmHpWtXDeaHY4rPLbUcduXfu2BCfJGndlhsdLw86Rb3iWuMENtYHPsGpQ1i9niNsaEXR1gQ/BoWrPq2HGgpa6IL/XAtQ9dHJjKLnokxsSYPdccqBdJ/gRPqC1yWC0zoLGf+mF90lyBGFsOc0UUMSpJeU5pV2Y=; Message-ID: <882001.33385.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .uOQzbYVM1lxjrcPZ.OGiHsW1mDshdxAnBe0VQ_KtlBAanGsLTXAGkjapUNtGn5cZps_YExUcv6I9s66YmWyDCRGhmEqZiitlSquy7TOn4mUpnO1Yh.LSHl9DtsKC4lKki7V2DEjiPJjZbsV4y7MNwLetOjBk4xsrBGkSmkYwc3jCWA2SjrXe0O2Dxdrh5Q.MWqs02coxv.1XahlE.en7uZBMr5bBKRHR_JfOiqzLyasFHRgH4tkERwdyJ1pUqFYYaiVcnmSZeNPzL1VrKe1Oj_yFA8EYykWT9yzen28TwLnYN6M6Qbj4.ZMqhS22d75aXaFAQ1aLTeoJSf1BQmV Received: from [173.84.5.162] by web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:33:57 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:33:57 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100207230122.33BE7106568F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: portupgrade, batch mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:34:01 -0000 ..... > use the > the --batch switch or put BATCH="yes" in make.conf IIRC. > That particular make.conf is in /etc > > But IMHO, remembering to always give portupgrade the -C > switch is the > way to go. .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 15:39:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C27106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47B8FC18 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o18FdEGE099706; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:39:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o18FdEK2099703; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:39:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:39:14 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: John In-Reply-To: <20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.org> Message-ID: References: <20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:39:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can loader.conf give you NATD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:39:15 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, John wrote: > The natd man page says it is still necessary to create a customer > kernl with > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPDIVERT > > Is that still true, or can it be accomplished vi a loader.conf? It's a kernel option, so you probably can't do it at runtime. Consider using pf instead of ipfw. pf does NAT without needing natd or those kernel options. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 16:01:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FA106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386B78FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o18G1IcT047369 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:01:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <201002081601.o18G1IcT047369@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:01:23 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: netflow vs pcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:01:20 -0000 I am trying to deploy more visibility into parts of my network and started to look at netflow. However, I often find for some deployments, I need full pcap headers to see what had been going on. e.g. customer calls after the fact saying, "~ 36hrs ago, there was a 'problem'. Do you know what happened"... Having a full pcap (headers anyways) helps a great deal to understand / reconstruct what the site was actually seeing. In my limited foray into netflow, I dont seem to have that level of visibility where I can see how long the 3 way handshake took to setup, if ACKs were missed due to packet loss or packets were out of order etc etc. That being said, there are wonderful summary tools in netflow that allow you to quickly look for network anomalies. However, I can always export a pcap to netflow format and then use such tools. Is there a happy medium out there ? What are people using to audit network traffic out there ? Also, what are people using to capture and store netflow data ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 16:05:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9B106566C; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f185.google.com (mail-qy0-f185.google.com [209.85.221.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9648FC08; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk15 with SMTP id 15so295222qyk.7 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=QXKj412irRZyJ3UXxEKlSJf3AWHGCrIgiWvES/G3UbQ=; b=MUVFX5RDwc0oBJ/+BtqFjWJqcGXxTfPFYNNCvdmz3J1BOpHPKP6mWOHUiu1o6k6xMe zgcOqsUpELnUvq82HR6MkXP9rA1MNUh0Sko/cHlJuM3tDDR66ASDaTM3RyKJxfz8a7Jc 9j4J69UhL9LS6dDXGze3YGYyTmzEDCvfht6+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=YxMCy/D0XYKL9V4BShYeIbXYILtn/ZWUsHRtQd7yX9AEJ6/Cn2eRfveIgJeJ11hOqd pHBRS+n8bz7MmbP5nLHfk9WMDPBokQgWGzBFXhk3onKGew5VBpdUY21VNsoAy0Sro7Yt YNMkrhAvrmiIULOAJGdnOZ1VKkMsYw24t1CTQ= Received: by 10.224.6.202 with SMTP id a10mr2509923qaa.188.1265645125855; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from centel.dataix.local (ppp-22.161.dialinfree.com [209.172.22.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1915726qwj.51.2010.02.08.08.03.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:03:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:03:27 -0500 From: jhell To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net/samba34: after upgrade from samba33 -> samba34 no client can connect to samba34-server anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:05:27 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:43, ohartman@ wrote: > After upgrading from samba33 to samba34 from most recent ports, no Windows_XP > and Windows_7 client is capable of connecting to the samba server anymore! I > use the same config as before, did a testparm (it shows this ahaead: > Load smb config files from /usr/local/etc/smb.conf > max_open_files: sysctl_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) > rlimit_max: rlimit_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) > ). > I have no idea what's going wrong. The authentication is done via LDAP. Using > samab33 works without problem. > > Regards, > Oliver > Add to /boot/loader.conf: kern.maxfiles="16384" Reboot. As for the rlimit sysctl I have no clue which sysctl configures that but seeing as they are of both the same value I would assume that it might be auto configured by maxfiles. Best of luck and let us know how it turned out. -- jhell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 16:14:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A7A106568B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463968FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18GEnwo034321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:14:50 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o18GEnwo034321 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265645690; bh=xlQd3f+A5A3OgqR1WE7GZGCzN6SvUJGYlbNGqsxqKZQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B703879.2030801@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2008=20Feb=202010=2016:14:49=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Warren=20Block=20|CC:=20John=20,=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Can=20loader.conf=20give=20you=20 NATD=20support?|References:=20<20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.o rg>=20|In-Reply-T o:=20|X-Enigmail- Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Con tent-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=P8bv/Uiyl5sedqyZkNYmlFk9MMd8hp6fxhbUNEp4FdLROGCOK17d81eXBmYCElT8I zzKmS3qS47JOus02070DSrIdkV6ha2n7lUTxRENDYxkAktS7B+h3pnxkMYsK3mPtvW f3QWhtmOsFpKQjCAgdBMkJAhIeP9rcHTGoI25Tn0= Message-ID: <4B703879.2030801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:14:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can loader.conf give you NATD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:14:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 15:39, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, John wrote: > >> The natd man page says it is still necessary to create a customer >> kernl with >> >> options IPFIREWALL >> options IPDIVERT >> >> Is that still true, or can it be accomplished vi a loader.conf? > > It's a kernel option, so you probably can't do it at runtime. It's a loadable module (ipfw_nat.ko) nowadays, so you probably can do it at runtime... > Consider using pf instead of ipfw. pf does NAT without needing natd or > those kernel options. Heartily seconded. pf and ipfw fulfil the same sort of function, but to my mind, pf wins hands down simply by having a much more usable control interface and configuration syntax. Not to mention the advanced pf features like ftp-proxy, HA configuration, relayd and a bunch more. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktwOHkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwuuwCeJwUl0RH1nSqIfYZimP7sO1hW ZZMAnjP1ZXWZVVZsPQA4YEFPtXHMWs1c =r3ny -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 16:23:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37DB1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F1F8FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o18GLSQL057461; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:21:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o18GLSSF057460; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:21:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:21:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Decker, Ross" Message-ID: <20100208162128.GA57185@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE17D09128@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C2D9FDCACFBCB4183516E784E9DC7DE17D09128@cocoaex3.brevard.cc.fl.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The first file loaded is? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:23:25 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:23:41AM -0500, Decker, Ross wrote: > I'm just starting my adventure into BSD along with C++. I know that > this OS gives you all the source files that are used in the OS. What I'm > asking, is what is the name of the first file that is loaded and where > is the source file for it? I want to start with the very first line of > code and see if I can step my way through the entire boot process. There > are many things that I see during boot up that I have no idea what they > are (SMAP Type....) that aren't that Google Friendly. > > So if anyone knows the names of the source files and their locations for > the boot sequence could you please post them..... SUPER thank you's! Well, the first thing executed is the BIOS. It discovers an MBR to suck in and transfer control to. The MBR that it chooses is the one on the first one of its list of boot devices that has an MBR. That all is pretty much the same for all PC systems regardless of OS. Once it loads and transfers control to the MBR it is dependand on the OS. The MBR generally checks a couple things and chooses a boot sector from one of the bootable partitions to read in and hand over control to. If you poke around in man pages for boot and init you will learn a lot of what you are asking. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 16:24:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC29210656A7 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F668FC2A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o18GOI124349; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:24:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:24:18 -0600 From: John To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100208102418.A24197@starfire.mn.org> References: <20100208075855.A20993@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from wblock@wonkity.com on Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 08:39:14AM -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can loader.conf give you NATD support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:24:40 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 08:39:14AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, John wrote: > > > The natd man page says it is still necessary to create a customer > > kernl with > > > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPDIVERT > > > > Is that still true, or can it be accomplished vi a loader.conf? > > It's a kernel option, so you probably can't do it at runtime. > > Consider using pf instead of ipfw. pf does NAT without needing natd or > those kernel options. Oh. OK! That must be new since the last time I did this. Will it be difficult to port my ipfw and natd rules to pf? > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 17:19:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97144106566C; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E2C8FC0C; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NeXGr-000830-CX>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:19:37 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NeXGr-0004aT-At>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:19:37 +0100 Message-ID: <4B704804.4030802@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:21:08 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Macklem References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:19:38 -0000 On 02/08/10 15:08, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> >> Mounting the filessystem via >> >> mount_newnfs host:/path /path >> > Oh, and you should set: > sysctl vfs.newnfs.locallocks_enable=0 > in the server, since I haven't fixed the local locking yet. (This implies > that apps/daemons running locally on the server won't see byte range > locks performed by NFSv4 clients.) However, byte range locking between > NFSv4 clients should work ok. > > rick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Interesting, I see a lot of vfs.newfs-stuff on server-side, but not this specific OID. Do I miss something here? Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 17:25:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0579D106566C; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE188FC13; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NeXMv-0000Yp-4W>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:25:53 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NeXMv-0004xH-2W>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:25:53 +0100 Message-ID: <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:27:23 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Macklem References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:25:59 -0000 On 02/08/10 15:01, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> >> Mounting the filessystem via >> >> mount_newnfs host:/path /path >> >> works fine, but not >> >> mount -t nfs4 host:/path /path. >> > > The mount command can be either: > mount -t nfs -o nfsv4 host:/path /path > or > mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 host:/path /path > (The above was what the old now removed nfs4 used.) > > Have fun with it, rick So I guess the above one is the more 'transparent' one with respect to the future, when NFSv4 gets mature and its way as matured into the kernel? I tried the above and it works. But it seems, that only UFS2 filesystems can be mounted by the client. When trying mounting a filesystem residing on ZFS, it fails. Mounting works, but when try to access or doing a simple 'ls', I get ls: /backup: Permission denied On server side, /etc/exports looks like -- V4: / -sec=sys:krb5 #IPv4# /backup #IPv4# -- Is there still an issue with ZFS? Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 17:38:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889741065692 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420338FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18HccjG002348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:38:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:38:52 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:38:39 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o18HccjG002348 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:38:50 -0000 My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to: - Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world and kernels. - Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR' - Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F' IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date. However, per the thread on the proper updating method a few days ago, I just ran 'make delete-old' and 'make delete-old-libs' for the first time ever. After a reboot the system started grumbling about not being able to find libssl.so.4. I reinstalled the compat5,6,7 ports and all is well again. Running 'make delete-old-libs' seems to no longer want to get rid of libssl.so.4. This leads to my questions: 1) With all the regular portupgrades I do, why is libssl.so.4 even being used any more? Isn't this a relic from the FBSD 4.x branch? 2) Why did the initial 'make delete-old-libs' clobber this file, but after the compat reinstalls, the same command no longer cares? 3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1) and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest 8.x libs? Thanks, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 18:30:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9161065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317B88FC23 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18IUj0A015920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:30:45 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o18IUj0A015920 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265653845; bh=ZSD5Pdi8071D9ykquw7lgtbL+m6nuXnsIzACjTGx5sI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B70584F.6050604@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=2 008=20Feb=202010=2018:30:39=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ti m=20Daneliuk=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20L ist=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Follow=20Up =20Question=20On=20Upgrading=20And=20Ports|References:=20<4B704C2C .2020103@tundraware.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B704C2C.2020103@tundrawa re.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed =3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-sig nature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD267F370B25BB90EE59 7CF21"; b=Lg0MKhCykGlS1DXylo+N/WcJ4t9o9x19OGT0ZeKtJRkR1scghpjKE/ZqzPM9OeYJi GLlWQKK0juQWJw/j7MxVIKwQrZHQ4SGspWO1tkqG3oE3L+sO0DZfCegD5IpiwdU+e6 1C55MTWBuGFxfod1wKAG51MRmaJPavBULTYoUY/k= Message-ID: <4B70584F.6050604@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:30:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD267F370B25BB90EE597CF21" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:30:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD267F370B25BB90EE597CF21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/02/2010 17:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to: >=20 > - Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world > and kernels. This implies you're running one of the -STABLE branches, rather than -RELEASE: updates to -RELEASE happen much less frequently than weekly... > - Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR' >=20 > - Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F' >=20 > IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date. Yep. It's good to do that, although your methodology would be pretty hard to cope with on any more than a few machines. > However, per the thread on the proper updating method a few days ago, > I just ran 'make delete-old' and 'make delete-old-libs' for the > first time ever. After a reboot the system started grumbling about > not being able to find libssl.so.4. I reinstalled the compat5,6,7 por= ts > and all is well again. Running 'make delete-old-libs' seems to no long= er > want to get rid of libssl.so.4.=20 make delete-old-libs will blow away /usr/lib/libssl.so.X, but the compat ports will provide /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.X > This leads to my questions: >=20 > 1) With all the regular portupgrades I do, why is libssl.so.4 even > being used any more? Isn't this a relic from the FBSD 4.x branch? No -- libssl.so.4 would be from RELENG_6. RELENG_8 provides libssl.so.6, and the ports version of OpenSSL (and presumably 9-CURRENT too) has libssl.so.7 It's libc.so where the ABI version number is the same as the OS major version number. Other shlibs in base can have completely different ABI version numbers. > 2) Why did the initial 'make delete-old-libs' clobber this file, > but after the compat reinstalls, the same command no longer cares? Compat libs are in a different location under /usr/local. > 3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1) > and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be > guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest > 8.x libs? Every port that is capable of being built from source, yes: some binary blobs may still need compat versions of shlibs. diablo-jdk comes to mind as a good example (needs compat7x). nvidia-driver-173 needs compat5x on my machine. However, such binary blobs are the exception rather than the rule. Rebuilding all your ports is difficult and time-consuming, but it pays off in easier future maintenance, improved performance and better stabili= ty. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enigD267F370B25BB90EE597CF21 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktwWFUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxRWgCfXs85OK+nigpR3OdbppwNFCoL w1EAn2ydQRfoB2FsGMfZhpS1myXxLpqN =4IYX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD267F370B25BB90EE597CF21-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 18:45:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3003A106568F for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4B38FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27153 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 18:45:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Feb 2010 18:45:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2A92050822; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:45:36 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:45:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> (Tim Daneliuk's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:38:52 -0600") Message-ID: <44y6j35zxr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:45:38 -0000 Tim Daneliuk writes: > 3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1) > and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be > guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest > 8.x libs? You want 'portupgrade -af' instead. [You can add the 'rR' if you like, but they're redundant with '-a'.] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 18:58:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D871065670; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15858FC1B; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NeYor-0005KJ-85>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:58:49 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NeYor-0001KW-6Q>; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4B705F44.2040900@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:00:20 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jhell References: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net/samba34: after upgrade from samba33 -> samba34 no client can connect to samba34-server anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:58:51 -0000 On 02/08/10 16:03, jhell wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:43, ohartman@ wrote: >> After upgrading from samba33 to samba34 from most recent ports, no >> Windows_XP and Windows_7 client is capable of connecting to the samba >> server anymore! I use the same config as before, did a testparm (it >> shows this ahaead: >> Load smb config files from /usr/local/etc/smb.conf >> max_open_files: sysctl_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) >> rlimit_max: rlimit_max (11095) below minimum Windows limit (16384) >> ). >> I have no idea what's going wrong. The authentication is done via >> LDAP. Using samab33 works without problem. >> >> Regards, >> Oliver >> > > Add to /boot/loader.conf: > kern.maxfiles="16384" > > Reboot. > > As for the rlimit sysctl I have no clue which sysctl configures that > but seeing as they are of both the same value I would assume that it > might be auto configured by maxfiles. > > Best of luck and let us know how it turned out. > Thanks. Oliver -- Oliver Hartmann Freie Universitaet Berlin Planetologie und Fernerkundung Malteserstr. 74 - 100/Haus D D-12249 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0) 30 838 70 508 FAX: +49 (0) 30 838 70 539 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 19:11:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6451065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876778FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3844785ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:11:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rnavPJimpFOIfCsFLkYc2I7mgdIN21F0SUFfy2wU6hQ=; b=bg0EdLb6C4wsADGOVP8AGPktOH2bx9o3/UA4IdVaQmSWpXanYDb2QLbj4WfXE5efxU 7SO0OvQ84dr2mU9Q++quH5oHjttsAtTC6bEqmkk4U53IbnHcBh9JTNOPqDgpju/npXvk iCNRwqMyOu2A4QFILrdIxzQ6P6+Ez/M4IvGpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=euhRxmdxCo4L7xNHQNfDIp7CHkIGrQ0IkZNk3ixeN7TZMFXQrXpHHPoWfth81BQuxN EPMaVsjLWnzSvSqQkvwrWSoyLnsOyTUsuD+zkp/gTKW5FpbUM8/LOi/cH76/iPgbSvgQ /4S8z+2GnSzo0p1nm66P+fa2L2KLryG0fxo8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.66 with SMTP id g44mr1157275wef.121.1265656261144; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:11:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:11:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:11:03 -0000 >This can happen if the ports tree or index file is outdated. >csup/portsnap, run pkgdb -Fu, and try it again. I think you meant 'portsdb -Fu'. The pkgtools often run 'pkgdb -u' and 'pkgdb -aF' automatically, and a full-blown 'pkgdb -F' or 'pkgdb -L' usually isn't required unless there is an error, although in most cases it wouldn't do any harm. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 19:24:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2601065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108028FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o18JNtFt069454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:23:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B7064DA.9070300@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:24:10 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4B704C2C.2020103@tundraware.com> <4B70584F.6050604@black-earth.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B70584F.6050604@black-earth.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:23:56 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o18JNtFt069454 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:24:04 -0000 On 2/8/2010 12:30 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/02/2010 17:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to: >> >> - Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world >> and kernels. > > This implies you're running one of the -STABLE branches, rather than > -RELEASE: updates to -RELEASE happen much less frequently than weekly... > >> - Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR' >> >> - Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F' >> >> IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date. > > Yep. It's good to do that, although your methodology would be pretty > hard to cope with on any more than a few machines. Yup, 'tis -stable. And, no, I wouldn't do a farm of machines this way. For that, I wrote/use this: http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tbku/ Matthew & Lowell - thanks for taking the time ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 19:31:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93967106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A708FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18JVdWH065930 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: Xorg question with Dell Inspiron 1764 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:31:41 -0000 I would recommend against Dell without seriously investigating the hardware on the system you are interested in. I needed a system and in an emergency and did not want to wait for shipping (silly me). The system is an Inspiron 1764. If anyone has an xorg.conf file for this system, it would be greatly appreciated. My system is FreeBSD 8.0. FreeBSD localhost 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Fri Feb 5 16:58:16 EST 2010 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MNEME amd64 I have installed the current package for xorg-7.4_2. The monitor/controller from pciconf -lvc: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x04341028 chip=0x00468086 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA cap 05[90] = MSI supports 1 message cap 01[d0] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 cap 13[a4] = PCI Advanced Features: FLR TP startx and Xorg -configure give the same error[s]: (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully (II) VESA(0): Manufacturer: AUO Model: 109e Serial#: 0 (II) VESA(0): Year: 2009 Week: 1 (II) VESA(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) VESA(0): Digital Display Input (II) VESA(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 38 vert.: 21 (II) VESA(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) VESA(0): No DPMS capabilities specified (II) VESA(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) VESA(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) VESA(0): redX: 0.620 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.325 greenY: 0.570 (II) VESA(0): blueX: 0.150 blueY: 0.060 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) VESA(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) VESA(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) VESA(0): clock: 106.0 MHz Image Size: 382 x 214 mm (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1600 h_sync: 1648 h_sync_end 1680 h_blank_end 1928 h_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): v_active: 900 v_sync: 903 v_sync_end 909 v_blanking: 912 v_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) VESA(0): clock: 106.0 MHz Image Size: 382 x 214 mm (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1600 h_sync: 1648 h_sync_end 1680 h_blank_end 1928 h_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): v_active: 900 v_sync: 903 v_sync_end 909 v_blanking: 912 v_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): 4PG9N<80>B173RW1 (WW) VESA(0): Unknown vendor-specific block 0 (II) VESA(0): EDID (in hex): (II) VESA(0): 00ffffffffffff0006af9e1000000000 (II) VESA(0): 01130103902615780ac4959e57539226 (II) VESA(0): 0f505400000001010101010101010101 (II) VESA(0): 0101010101016829404861840c303020 (II) VESA(0): 36007ed61000001a6829404861840c30 (II) VESA(0): 302036007ed61000001a000000fe0034 (II) VESA(0): 5047394e804231373352573100000000 (II) VESA(0): 00000000000000000002010a202000d2 (II) VESA(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4254 (II) VESA(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1600x900"x0.0 106.00 1600 1648 1680 1928 900 903 909 912 +hsync -vsync (55.0 kHz) (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1600x900"x0.0 106.00 1600 1648 1680 1928 900 903 909 912 +hsync -vsync (55.0 kHz) (II) VESA(0): Searching for matching VESA mode(s): : (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync value of 54.98 kHz (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh value of 60.28 Hz (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x480" (no mode of this name) (WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter... (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync value of 54.98 kHz (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh value of 60.28 Hz (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (EE) VESA(0): No valid modes (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" (II) UnloadModule: "int10" (II) Unloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) UnloadModule: "vbe" (II) Unloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. I have tried the intel driver (it does not recognize the device), the i810 driver (not found). With the vesa driver I have tried supplying the 1024x768 and 1600x900 modes in all depths and supplying a range for hsync and vsync that includes the scanned values. Thanks for any pointers DougD _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 19:37:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30761065692 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089B8FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3872969ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U1/PjpiZr31FaJ0lCUzmWUkCzYWNKifmJZ4oYGnk1ls=; b=sapyIuLMqHPkw5jJU54fr6sJj+XWXTz/07Eb6vfjNUApP3u0jV1i/RH435qogLVBRq QF4ektXI/OVrd6PeAhYY+i4myXTsdTqawlLnzWqgkcDRCVoLua1HpD7xSXeNcRnh/jjl 0VeeL2yMdM7Bdx3VAWkOcAGfV2n8luys8xLbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=j53fsY4ogkbJNbgP6oh+wkgdLBwHU6/0XJyVFQhVzYJvtunDX8hK3iU2vJDZh8ovB2 DfgDQY0NDqi7kOcQNzSD4wixDxbxwcvItrqYmtqVponAexfjxZkBtqGhvMcTF55iMBWm 2KFX82gmNZ0usumLX2xL8dymLal3tAI2qJObQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.143 with SMTP id u15mr2431744wee.205.1265657850734; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:37:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:37:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:37:34 -0000 > You can even >leave gaps between partitions if you want, but that is pretty crazy >since it just wastes some of the available space. > >There have been quite a lot of recommendations on how to lay out a disk >for best performance, based on the observation that disk access times >vary depending on how far away the data is from the spindle, and the >expected usage patterns for the partition. Like any such advice, it >has tended to become less valid over time. Modern disks really don't >have any physical meaning to the Cylinder/Head/Sector style addressing >schemes[*] nowadays -- and you're pretty much bound to be using LBA >style addressing anyhow. Also, machines nowadays have so much RAM that >(a) swap is hardly ever used and (b) access to popular files is >frequently answered out of VM caches rathe than needing disk IO. Layout is still important, and leaving some blank space may not be so crazy. Here I'm thinking not so much of ordering (although one would probably be best served by the recommended default ordering), but of alignment, size, raid/stripe/concat configuration, and file system block and fragment size selection. Witness the (as much as tenfold) performance difference from simple changes, highlighted in the recent thread entitled 'File system blocks alignment' on freebsd-arch@ during December 2009 - January 2010, beginning with: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2009-December/009770.html If you're laying out a new disk, you may as well take a few minutes and get the most out of it, even if you're not going to invest in a lot of new hardware. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:03:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3511D106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51FE8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o18K3d6B002577; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:03:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o18K3diC002574; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:03:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:03:39 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "b. f." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:03:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:03:41 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, b. f. wrote: >> This can happen if the ports tree or index file is outdated. >> csup/portsnap, run pkgdb -Fu, and try it again. > > I think you meant 'portsdb -Fu'. The pkgtools often run 'pkgdb -u' > and 'pkgdb -aF' automatically, and a full-blown 'pkgdb -F' or 'pkgdb > -L' usually isn't required unless there is an error, although in most > cases it wouldn't do any harm. Doh, that's correct--portsdb. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:05:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC48106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02D2B8FC1B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24930 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2010 20:05:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:05:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WWjj8grS9xK4Ct7Dj6TWS+Sc+VSlAL+tUhiIOfuXOrGIdD0OiMyN430YpcP9Tle1RAtQxGXGA/X9EUzC+oapRKUjgG+MRsrjLSADNlxEMPQZPkfhp9fWV2+9RQT4RhNQ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeZqw-0005o6-Rl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:05:04 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:56:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:56:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100208195629.GB8690@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:05:10 -0000 --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:01:05AM +1100, alex wrote: > Frank Shute wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > > =20 > >>I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: > >> > >>* The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from= =20 > >>gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) > > > >They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. >=20 > Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers. Sometimes, license choice *is* a good reason to make some sacrifices in short-term convenience. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktwbG0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW5pACgkyiGNhw3yruwRqFNcZrPQdyZ 11AAn2KTiES2taYxkem57bzNPPoAlod8 =QqkW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:06:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA0C10656A8 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5348FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o18K4i1o058248; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:04:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o18K4i1l058247; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:04:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:04:44 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: bf1783@gmail.com Message-ID: <20100208200444.GA58228@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:06:25 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 02:37:30PM -0500, b. f. wrote: > > You can even > >leave gaps between partitions if you want, but that is pretty crazy > >since it just wastes some of the available space. > > > >There have been quite a lot of recommendations on how to lay out a disk > >for best performance, based on the observation that disk access times > >vary depending on how far away the data is from the spindle, and the > >expected usage patterns for the partition. Like any such advice, it > >has tended to become less valid over time. Modern disks really don't > >have any physical meaning to the Cylinder/Head/Sector style addressing > >schemes[*] nowadays -- and you're pretty much bound to be using LBA > >style addressing anyhow. Also, machines nowadays have so much RAM that > >(a) swap is hardly ever used and (b) access to popular files is > >frequently answered out of VM caches rathe than needing disk IO. > > > Layout is still important, and leaving some blank space may not be so > crazy. Here I'm thinking not so much of ordering (although one would > probably be best served by the recommended default ordering), but of > alignment, size, raid/stripe/concat configuration, and file system > block and fragment size selection. Witness the (as much as tenfold) > performance difference from simple changes, highlighted in the recent > thread entitled 'File system blocks alignment' on freebsd-arch@ during > December 2009 - January 2010, beginning with: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2009-December/009770.html > > If you're laying out a new disk, you may as well take a few minutes > and get the most out of it, even if you're not going to invest in a > lot of new hardware. The system nowdays does all that figuring for you and manages boundaries reasonably. ////jerry > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:06:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67EF10656AC for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B9CC8FC24 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31967 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2010 20:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:06:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=h3FBdgBmLeBCfZ2zxZqPiolxazqz2sg9Qr56uvqCvEGNXQqQnXkQt7umcbMK+O79wsUX2zj3Z4vQOHnWx2tno8/cp3YERPIWMUXnQTUGEv+JrSL6nq4kh2LtxCj/KyS0; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeZsV-00080I-Sx; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:06:41 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alex References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:06:42 -0000 --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >=20 > AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for > ports you'll install a compiler from ports. Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktwbM8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXwOwCg4BzWqZqguscVlT935sYeh7FS rLoAniSmV8BUYDof70JbXnMIrZdO0CJi =HSfY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:09:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D441065696 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F8E88FC28 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2659 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 20:09:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265659755; bh=akv9PKnSec/W7F55J1OtwdgfjIAQCMtIqWaWhRA9ai0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=svArOBMG2meB5gIynA5dMy+5hB+jEEn/fGHem031U9bjZYGPP8csjGKRjC+u82ZLHDC66P+Fib+3C602t76RbfmCRnW1McrSPhzbdNrOPGNzguB0l3e55xPvn+qeq+PrKNGjegzRb1fd/hJ1t1aKXWknop8ZZtilfYg4I3hA+k4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2Qv8wXK9LeS8t8bWVCgINzNxZe+zRe/PMz4L2n+G+TmVjRB02kfhJE6UGeLHre6l2jwNVOVNu6zAV7WRcMJ6fRu3qAUx+tDSw78UD+o6PNGf/RJS4zf7ULp+pNq0h9FgKee1SfKy+ERypbPcc/ywwkX8F2gizie5oMGEf+SdQlY=; Message-ID: <508156.2187.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: r6kXEs8VM1n0fOWb67gkUxxwRYGFGQFM1PQv6b0KiJhy91sq4cBhzKRJFRQrhFbuwsSUCBgH7niSUucBi_BNJe_EGzbyGYSFPrWcsa4v6OV87oR1Tx8uapm.H6r3VQcfHqzfKEkoV7XQmxcn7eTWeclEz6UKjjkwypyVhvSpdJZzV6pDtRc81KgRa40zpbr1UbojoKhmc1uT..n4zaPf0Nzh2cPWtCoBEvRMSyC1A2OiFFoTbcHKiGCahK6sHX7pHvI16rKuHvEkAtR6TSeOF7gksamezYE9.gS4R9jFeGJAEqiasQ_d579KxLsjvMnmPiDqFVmqs6k9pZIQmhcxnBUJvM1i Received: from [78.131.57.57] by web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:09:15 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Warren Block , "b. f." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:09:16 -0000 I resolve that problem, by the handbook I added =0A=0A0 3 * * * root portsn= ap -I cron update && pkg_version -vIL=3D=0A=0ANow it works awesome!=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Warren Block =0ATo: b. f. =0ACc: freebsd-questions@FreeBS= D.org; D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ASent: Mon, Feb= ruary 8, 2010 9:03:39 PM=0ASubject: Re: portupgrade=0A=0AOn Mon, 8 Feb 2010= , b. f. wrote:=0A=0A>> This can happen if the ports tree or index file is o= utdated.=0A>> csup/portsnap, run pkgdb -Fu, and try it again.=0A>=0A> I thi= nk you meant 'portsdb -Fu'. The pkgtools often run 'pkgdb -u'=0A> and 'pkg= db -aF' automatically, and a full-blown 'pkgdb -F' or 'pkgdb=0A> -L' usuall= y isn't required unless there is an error, although in most=0A> cases it wo= uldn't do any harm.=0A=0ADoh, that's correct--portsdb.=0A=0A-Warren Block *= Rapid City, South Dakota USA=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:10:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4511065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF3A8FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1049695fxm.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:10:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4sJCCuOOk36wOhnwXl9GzyNBtBXks+oY33cmxhJrWPg=; b=Kkycz/kNqHMv8ZnMacTpGCtuFbMzKNEpXhLpDiajk++d7CFKgQYU15UdQDFdy2HCXC Y0KAZnBxxbQfhR+2K85goNzUW1DyrLVLmSCkxsrwcZaSM+esZZVlquwF+q+/cck8Dx5E EsTKlopr1MoeeZLfV7yMG6cxepTza/ZPGb2nE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=CZQ4YbEejEVosiGc2V5kwasXWA0sMuSc/jciOC/b+14Dnohfsu2pqhKwA1+1y7eAEl QKqARBagdrCdRBDcs5etGRXxlOzwQrvTLJqkP1g2NEvaSF9n5Od2ypvpE1+YWquNYd1b 33PLdKJAx0C6vYG9uwOl5gByhFe9Ot3aRSAhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.14 with SMTP id t14mr95783wee.222.1265659837698; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:10:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208200444.GA58228@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100208200444.GA58228@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:10:39 -0000 On 2/8/10, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 02:37:30PM -0500, b. f. wrote: > >> > You can even >> >leave gaps between partitions if you want, but that is pretty crazy >> >since it just wastes some of the available space. >> > >> >There have been quite a lot of recommendations on how to lay out a disk >> >for best performance, based on the observation that disk access times >> >vary depending on how far away the data is from the spindle, and the >> >expected usage patterns for the partition. Like any such advice, it >> >has tended to become less valid over time. Modern disks really don't >> >have any physical meaning to the Cylinder/Head/Sector style addressing >> >schemes[*] nowadays -- and you're pretty much bound to be using LBA >> >style addressing anyhow. Also, machines nowadays have so much RAM that >> >(a) swap is hardly ever used and (b) access to popular files is >> >frequently answered out of VM caches rathe than needing disk IO. >> >> >> Layout is still important, and leaving some blank space may not be so >> crazy. Here I'm thinking not so much of ordering (although one would >> probably be best served by the recommended default ordering), but of >> alignment, size, raid/stripe/concat configuration, and file system >> block and fragment size selection. Witness the (as much as tenfold) >> performance difference from simple changes, highlighted in the recent >> thread entitled 'File system blocks alignment' on freebsd-arch@ during >> December 2009 - January 2010, beginning with: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2009-December/009770.html >> >> If you're laying out a new disk, you may as well take a few minutes >> and get the most out of it, even if you're not going to invest in a >> lot of new hardware. > > The system nowdays does all that figuring for you and manages > boundaries reasonably. > > ////jerry > That does not seem to be the conclusion of those who contributed to the thread I cited, although "reasonably" is open to interpretation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:11:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CD6106568F for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benschumacher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC228FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so1301793iwn.3 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:11:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wMxE6HNeCDPgwypuKzDB8cIa5A8WoOPNUxsF51OaH2o=; b=Ly6h2b3q0K4EOj5PJWY2LXmGJkdIZvPDD805tc31VpFIYWWiFvLGjnAFnNZHktshvz Y31C7RAg98XV0L9uEmc8w4keDxcY98o87i0ReFZg/8eVCW9VJqGSagx1mG74pZtQs8P7 CX1Ci/qZwQv+HPdSsiczhHCYbazoDtyz6pisc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uBVEts+2m75Mqebgxb2MF4d/tSxOjn21FZhya+t2/6LjajMVuaMQcYFNxZYCZaHBRw cFrfmQuswyMhNKTDlLNaZkkRVbsrlCwY7kTHbnVvADpyRbre44wJ1IlTuBC7LLaUazQw VFYzjFenoMEEhkuZm8WgoqlwTEGTIkPCa4FCw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.55.10 with SMTP id d10mr1859923wfa.244.1265659886405; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:11:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:11:26 -0700 Message-ID: <9859143f1002081211l3e14df72sc4edb5e9932768b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Ben Schumacher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:11:27 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? =C2=A0I hadn't heard t= hat > FreeBSD was moving to Clang. A quick search yielded these links: http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2009051100335NWBD Cheers, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:19:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11998106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (mail.bitdefender.com [91.199.104.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CADF8FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7894 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 22:19:02 +0200 Received: from mdontu-dell.dsd.ro (HELO mdontu-dell.localnet) (mdontu@bitdefender.com@10.10.14.115) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 22:19:02 +0200 From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:19:01 +0200 References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002081154.26064.pieter@service2media.com> In-Reply-To: <201002081154.26064.pieter@service2media.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201002082219.02103.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> X-BitDefender-Spam: No (269) X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: v1, build 2.8.84.85208, SQMD Hits: none, bayes score: 500(0), pbayes score: 241(0), neunet score: 269(269), flags: [NN_VALID_REPLY; NN_EXEC_H_YAHOO_AND_GMAIL_NO_DOMAIN_KEY], SQMD: 3a4b2ed332f52604201bed1ba10f1e12.fuzzy.fzrbl.org, total: 269(775) X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender qmail 3.1.0 on elfie.dsd.hq, sigver: 7.30287 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:19:06 -0000 On Monday 08 February 2010 12:54:26 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can > > see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the > > raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), > > under ext4 the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. > > File deletion speed is relevant how? > It can be, depending on the workload. I (as a Linux user) moved from ext3 to xfs, ignoring the warnings about file deletion [being slow]. Now I _kind of_ regret it. Seems I have more than one program on my laptop that deletes files (kmail's email-expiration thing comes to mind). I also work on a project that creates large log files an deletes them (periodically). When all these programs meet, I go for a coffee. :) -- Mihai Donțu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:23:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71DE1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@csolve.net) Received: from mail.csolve.net (mail.csolve.net [207.164.80.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822468FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alpha.csolve.local ([10.10.18.126]) by mail.csolve.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NeZy5-000GAF-SI; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:12:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Derek Buttineau In-Reply-To: <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:12:25 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> To: Chad Perrin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Authenticated-Id: derek@csolve.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:23:10 -0000 On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that > FreeBSD was moving to Clang. Here's last year's status report where they talk about it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-May/049873.html It was also in a presentation at BSDCan last year. -- Regards, Derek Buttineau Internet Systems Developer Compu-SOLVE Internet Services Compu-SOLVE Technologies, Inc Phone: 705-725-1212 x255 E-Mail: derek@csolve.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:54:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC741065694 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3812A8FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o18Kqp7b058429; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:52:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o18KqpdG058428; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:52:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:52:51 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ben Schumacher Message-ID: <20100208205251.GA58406@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> <9859143f1002081211l3e14df72sc4edb5e9932768b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9859143f1002081211l3e14df72sc4edb5e9932768b2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:54:32 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:11:26PM -0700, Ben Schumacher wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this?  I hadn't heard that > > FreeBSD was moving to Clang. > > A quick search yielded these links: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang > http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2009051100335NWBD Interesting, but there is nothing in those that indicates an official direction for FreeBSD. Just that some people are doing some work on it for some reason. Doesn't mean it won't become the official direction at some future time either. Whatever 'official' means. ////jerry > > Cheers, > Ben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:59:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578E4106568D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1670D8FC16 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o18KvEb6058465; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o18KvEoP058464; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:14 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Derek Buttineau Message-ID: <20100208205714.GB58406@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:59:08 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:12:25PM -0500, Derek Buttineau wrote: > On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that > > FreeBSD was moving to Clang. > > > Here's last year's status report where they talk about it: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-May/049873.html > This one looks a little more definitive, but it still uses the term 'exploring' rather than saying it is decided. So, keep listening. ////jerry > It was also in a presentation at BSDCan last year. > > -- > Regards, > > Derek Buttineau > Internet Systems Developer > Compu-SOLVE Internet Services > Compu-SOLVE Technologies, Inc > > Phone: 705-725-1212 x255 > E-Mail: derek@csolve.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:04:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75BB1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f194.google.com (mail-pz0-f194.google.com [209.85.222.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74258FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so415242pzk.27 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vHrJKjQ88s6VbMDK3V1S11ISgqOj8RwrMAgOy6Dz1ZE=; b=qJXZRglistQnaeVdkY0HHkv64ARkqGTnuR8i6xn1+IxCPu8p3r8jc36Q9zN3Xu3gAF tyOuJ+qIZ440CBnE0Kva2ccVHIqGlMHWB+4V5ZyBkv36CWsCi2y9lS0HnX6zD12v3wux AW6pc52V2qMuS+9uu2AancMlXKe0UrERjMTFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=op5DMsTlsKNEpBUv6axI0W/z6x04ZPoM+FGNqEs+G00WF9CkvcXNG2oVf1ETpfsrs6 HzrOgDvCcvJXxTg9FCPZJ2/LcG3zK0MzDdlJrKf0ckCon0GjFsmJWAeFKPVCjtmP8eX4 4B2i5xEMSDkkzDF8qAGgSwQmYgTfiDINudaDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.9.1 with SMTP id 1mr4644314wfi.92.1265663030463; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:03:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208205714.GB58406@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> <20100208205714.GB58406@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:48 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002081303j7de294c6w659e12329714f7fd@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Derek Buttineau , Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:04:02 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:12:25PM -0500, Derek Buttineau wrote: > > > On 2010-02-08, at 2:58 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that > > > FreeBSD was moving to Clang. > > > > > > Here's last year's status report where they talk about it: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-May/049873.html > > > > This one looks a little more definitive, but it still uses the > term 'exploring' rather than saying it is decided. So, keep > listening. > > ////jerry > http://www.freebsdnews.net/2009/10/15/clang-llvm-support-on-freebsd/ It's also been talked about on other lists eg current with growing frequency. I seem to remember hearing they hoped for it to be ready as an option for 9.0, although my memory may not be correct on that. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:04:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258D81065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhouston@rlhc.net) Received: from mail.shawcable.com (shawmail.shawcable.com [64.59.128.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63948FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bpd2mi5no-svcs.prod.shawcable.com ([10.0.184.160]) by bpd2mo3no-ssvc.prod.shawcable.com with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 13:35:32 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=GuLC44mw4fgA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=TOd5uH9sJr3L4NV3zjzqsQ==:17 a=bIiTHgSzAAAA:8 a=Ok8gHKcVmZ-6FkpRAhAA:9 a=8OfjkKb_ZIGVNl-isqgA:7 a=iJcMYs4Tc6leDak5FxHJipL0qxwA:4 a=-8g7SNNFnOYA:10 a=DwET8CXozj8A:10 a=l-3Co7Y25X1T9kWk6WMA:7 a=NDZxPLwZbZ3FsX0KswrhO_gKLnwA:4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,431,1262588400"; d="scan'208,217";a="121070660" Received: from unknown (HELO bpd2mi5no-cmts.prod.shawcable.com) ([192.168.183.160]) by bpd2mi5no-cmts.prod.shawcable.com with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 13:35:32 -0700 X-reinject: true Received: from unknown (HELO goblin.rlhc.net) ([24.79.224.208]) by bpd2mi5no-dmz.prod.shawcable.com with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 13:35:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by goblin.rlhc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A93DC312 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:35:32 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at goblin.rlhc.net Received: from goblin.rlhc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (goblin.rlhc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xx2M9xFat2Qq for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:35:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from goblin.rlhc.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by goblin.rlhc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E213DC0FF for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:35:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:35:27 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard L. Houston" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> In-Reply-To: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [24.79.224.218] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.4_GA_2038.UBUNTU8 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Linux)/6.0.4_GA_2038.UBUNTU8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:04:07 -0000 Hi everyone, First off I am new to FreeBSD. I use Linux professorially and really looking forward to getting some FreeBSD boxes in production as well. My apologies if my questions are noobish and I have tried Googling for some of them but with limited results so I figure I would ask for help from the Alpha dogs of FreeBSD on this list. So with hat in had I humbly request help in managing jails. I have set up a FreeBSD 8.0 install and patched it with freebsd-update. I then created a jail based on the instructions from the latest BSDMagazine. It seems to work great. Now my issue come in once I try to update the Jail with Freebsd-update. FYI, I installed the jail from sysinstall using the minimal distribution option. when I run Freebsd-update I was getting: Installing updates...chflags: ///libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted but after restarting the jail I now get "Cannot identify running kernel" The Apache server running on the jail seems to be working fine as is the ssh server. Any thought on this issue? Is there a preferred way to update the jail env? Remember, noob here, please go easy on me. :) Also is there issues with mixing the install of ports from source and via pkg_add? Good / bad to mix or no big deal. This is more of a general knowledge question, not implying I would be mixing the two types :) Thanks all and look forward to being a part of the FreeBSD community. +------------------------------------+ Best regards, -Richard Houston -R.L.H. Consulting -E-Mail rhouston@rlhc.net -WWW http://www.rlhc.net -Blog http://www.rlhc.net/blog/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:09:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9375E106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f194.google.com (mail-pz0-f194.google.com [209.85.222.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1DB8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so421798pzk.27 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:09:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UiFPXR2vySlkUXtNuAKOk+tcjJrYGyJNYyZYo3lM+Xw=; b=lGo0Wzn2aeIKEyTX+NfVS6dybw2VviiC8lI3bMExnp8urk3WbzIK9CGQd6Q9sgRlA9 gvsBnxaujV8WDLcqMHgKwD/YIszJP6MTmybZ9ZafNqWnss8O7vvj6fC0y8hWU0UD1Sr+ 1Wv5eXFxAqkHhl4KJ/pVzn8YIppZ2sCJN4SKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=sbE2YpzElL8mPxx9wS/yLGLS8NC05R3EASoVy4RXbTwFjeVxRgO4jc+AGERqaLF8oE 0C0M5qi56Tt+27QWnpHzZcqHJQSaTqs9i5YCNJZJHbE0l9Y23x8IxCeqECEothUmVtDo yQrKJxs2TOH/Rprjn1u8OzrRqRP6mTFM3tO1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.117.25 with SMTP id p25mr4631098wfc.301.1265663397933; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin> <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:09:57 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: "Richard L. Houston" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:09:59 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Richard L. Houston wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First off I am new to FreeBSD. I use Linux professorially and really > looking forward to getting some FreeBSD boxes in production as well. My > apologies if my questions are noobish and I have tried Googling for some of > them but with limited results so I figure I would ask for help from the > Alpha dogs of FreeBSD on this list. > > So with hat in had I humbly request help in managing jails. I have set up a > FreeBSD 8.0 install and patched it with freebsd-update. I then created a > jail based on the instructions from the latest BSDMagazine. It seems to work > great. Now my issue come in once I try to update the Jail with > Freebsd-update. FYI, I installed the jail from sysinstall using the minimal > distribution option. when I run Freebsd-update I was getting: > > Installing updates...chflags: ///libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not > permitted > > but after restarting the jail I now get "Cannot identify running kernel" > The Apache server running on the jail seems to be working fine as is the ssh > server. Any thought on this issue? Is there a preferred way to update the > jail env? Remember, noob here, please go easy on me. :) > > Also is there issues with mixing the install of ports from source and via > pkg_add? Good / bad to mix or no big deal. This is more of a general > knowledge question, not implying I would be mixing the two types :) > > Thanks all and look forward to being a part of the FreeBSD community. > Use this as a starting point http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html Anyways, host and jail need to run the exact same kernel. Normally I'll build my kernel and install it into the base as well as each individual jail so everything is consistent. Also check out /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:16:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446621065694 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DE78FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1964A2E951; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:15:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:15:24 -0800 From: Jason To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100208211524.GA57127@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin> <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "Richard L. Houston" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:16:52 -0000 >Use this as a starting point > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html > >Anyways, host and jail need to run the exact same kernel. Normally I'll >build my kernel and install it into the base as well as each individual jail >so everything is consistent. Why do they need to run the exact same kernel? I didn't see that anywhere in the document, unless I missed it. thanks > >Also check out >/usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail > >-- >Adam Vande More >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:20:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17BF106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EBC8FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Neb1a-0004M8-Gq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:20:06 +0100 Received: from e177214001.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.177.214.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:20:06 +0100 Received: from rotkap by e177214001.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:20:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Heino Tiedemann Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.ports Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:08:56 +0100 Organization: yes Lines: 79 Message-ID: References: <4B6D40B4.70203@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100206124952.34cb5f1d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e177214001.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) X-Face: v6Lci{Mw=kwHf$`7C?L-U#BHn7O\wqF-1qg#Vk%}nUQv\i^mM/.p=wU+cr)yXf#Ob+foOOxW; ir"QI!|25wG3`ywF)yh~@V.kKtr.qp+v.R; w?c@ZzM#!'/7r_+)$NjMN:]qo-]`&z~KlP}|cERO'%s9":6\ZnN/O Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, kde-freebsd@freebsd.kde.org Subject: Re: [WORKAROUND] Re: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rotkap@gmx.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:20:08 -0000 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:13:08 +0100 > "O. Hartmann" wrote: > >> Since yesterday's portsnape and attempt updating my ports, ALL >> FreeBSD boxes (running FreeBSD 8.0/amd64) fail to update ports via >> 'portmaster -av' at the same point with the following error. >> >> It seems that that port jpeg-8 has been updated and now offering >> libjpeg.so.11 instead of the desired old libjpeg.so.10, so I guess >> everything depending on port jpeg-8 needs to be rebuild - but >> ports/UPDATE does not reflect this. >> >> c++ -fno-exceptions -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib >> -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -pthread -o ../../../bin/uic >> .obj/release-shared-mt/main.o .obj/release-shared-mt/uic.o >> .obj/release-shared-mt/form.o .obj/release-shared-mt/object.o >> .obj/release-shared-mt/subclassing.o .obj/release-shared-mt/embed.o >> .obj/release-shared-mt/widgetdatabase.o >> .obj/release-shared-mt/domtool.o .obj/release-shared-mt/parser.o >> -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> -L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/lib >> -L/usr/local/lib -lqt-mt -lmng -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lXi -lXrender >> -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXinerama -lXft -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lXext >> -lX11 -lm -lSM -lICE >> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.10, needed by >> /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so, not found (try using -rpath or >> -rpath-link) /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to >> `jpeg_start_decompress@LIBJPEG_7.0' > > > That above it's the problem, kde team is aware of it. > > For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to: > mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old && \ > cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/ && make && \ > mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so && \ > portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 > > > I did this yesterday while under KDE3 without problems. it ssems to be the workaround from UPDATING ,---- | > 20100205: | > AFFECTS: users of qt 3 and kde 3 | > AUTHOR: itetcu@FreeBSD.org | > | > When building qt33 and kdelibs3 (at least), while they are installed, because | > of -L/usr/local/lib being passed too soon, the currently installed libs are | > used instead of the ones from the build. This makes the build fail if you | > updated any of the libs this qt / kde libs are linked against (like libjpeg). | > | > For the moment the workaround, when you get to this, is to move the old lib | > out of the way, e.g.: | > mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old && \ | > cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/ && make && \ | > mv /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.old /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so && \ | > portmaster -C x11-toolkits/qt33 | > (or portupgrade -w qt-33\*), etc. `---- Has to do with the jpeg update, like writtebn in the discusuion "massive portpgrade" Now my question: Am I the weird kid, if i do NOT have some problems? My qt und kde kompiled fine. No problems. DO Ihave to do the step, mentioned above? Heino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:27:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740F81065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f203.google.com (mail-px0-f203.google.com [209.85.216.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478568FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi41 with SMTP id 41so7246953pxi.27 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:27:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ohmzb4jIIRQFNqbyQSuwTZh44aW3R/pw8ZKvd9uI6rQ=; b=YVjxsxGLTB1q5A4MI1qh348MyRAv2L0Y4UceYQsg2d/aLbrXQOm04gc2ZkJ2kauamF I6Rggg5Ljc/vQD3vXcDRMqMWw9SlJ5wNxZLfVpPITWwI0Za4VL7EsLCaDXftNoZD9wMS 57J9R5/o3WuGHAzBWJ8wwbkKszqYpjm0aPs44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RBlh3wIm8HWMCpq3KEIKbtb4srB0qEtBq7s/fVNNBJ2356gjPOFixRV+d2dGGKvSid 0CwRGLQMXdn5MFA3bvvdsjxFzO4cOjfKIw4skukF4sa0q6iul3zeLyJv3vZhOx/yi8qx ge8fJokWs/TPt1FDb/Rk2ZQLCdFK6/16Pg28I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.21.25 with SMTP id y25mr4671900wfi.206.1265664463811; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:27:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208211524.GA57127@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin> <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> <20100208211524.GA57127@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:27:43 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002081327k20bb39aey5a24d1b9337e41f9@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Richard L. Houston" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:27:44 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Jason wrote: > Use this as a starting point >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html >> >> Anyways, host and jail need to run the exact same kernel. Normally I'll >> build my kernel and install it into the base as well as each individual >> jail >> so everything is consistent. >> > > Why do they need to run the exact same kernel? I didn't see that anywhere > in > the document, unless I missed it. > > thanks > They aren't a full form of visualization in terms of having a hypervisor, as it is dependent the system calls coming from a jail being the same calls that are present in the host kernel. Mismatched kernel version could break that mapping. Which is also why jails are a faster form of virtualization because all the call mappings are 1:1. At least that's my understanding. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 21:59:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F231065679 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACB68FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so2999862vws.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:59:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nICC7N4iogHZ55j3ubSvyYLc/DyQTLLYRA8fDiQKj2c=; b=uXZ9vxx+v2d6kEgA7ABtzcN+uWO81eXf+tE8/+OPACIQyI3j6kkHdzakuEfMJFbbJu V9aT6oITCHaF+tAecwpi45e3fbOrGKbbM7UcMSvKJaPkOcVrBylbmly1AEZeGd4XVZqL HWimS0sWuI7okW1/ZMlskLHPbUwlU4GHtbAbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oqfkU2foHsUdMdKpU9Iot/BY88zoomN/zDSQjUk3abStU0z+001Qssj/+xAHaLpStl 9KzA41CpQUssdguWC+dIkAw/uslMfC1egPZuqX1dvBjimxzO6wiyV9b0Dk7CSucE6BeT 1AZ2khIU2hqhWyGw9HrBuNFlwLxG5zcm16B0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.205 with SMTP id f13mr9841343vcm.17.1265666345711; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:59:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Danny Edge To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Problem building GCC - Postfix install from ports failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:59:06 -0000 I was advised to try this again. New install FreeBSD 7.2 R, installing Postfix from cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix && make install clean I receive the following error near the end of the install: checking whether -fkeep-inline-functions is supported... yes updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile ===> Building for gcc-4.2.5_20090325 cd ./..//gcc-4.2-20090325 && autogen Makefile.def autogen: not found gmake: *** [..//gcc-4.2-20090325/Makefile.in] Error 127 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/addresses. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail. mx# Here is my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Oct 2 12:21:39 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ (1666.49-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0480800 real memory = 536084480 (511 MB) avail memory = 510578688 (486 MB) ACPI APIC Table: MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 agp0: aperture size is 128M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff,0xfe200000-0xfe20ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 vgapci1: mem 0xa8000000-0xafffffff,0xfe000000-0xfe00ffff at device 0.1 on pci1 skc0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xfe900000-0xfe903fff irq 18 at device 9.0 on pci0 skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet rev. A3(0x7) sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:11:2f:b9:91:f2 miibus0: on sk0 e1000phy0: PHY 0 on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto skc0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: port 0xeff0-0xeff7,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xefa8-0xefaf,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xef90-0xef9f,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci1 ata1: [ITHREAD] uhci0: port 0xeec0-0xeedf irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xef00-0xef1f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xef20-0xef3f irq 21 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 21 at device 16.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfea00000-0xfea000ff irq 21 at device 16.4 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xccfff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1666490696 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 39266MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 114473MB at ata0-slave UDMA100 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA150 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s5 is ntfs/IBM_40GB_DATA. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad1s1 is ntfs/WD_DATA. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad1s5 is ntfs/WD_DATA#1. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad1s6 is ntfs/WD_DATA#2. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1a is ufsid/3c3289b6df852df3. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1d is ufsid/3c3289bc49b5d5b3. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1e is ufsid/3c3289b6ff6278dc. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1f is ufsid/3c3289b62b6f81cb. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/3c3289b6df852df3 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1a is ufsid/3c3289b6df852df3. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/3c3289b6df852df3 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/3c3289b6ff6278dc removed. WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/3c3289b62b6f81cb removed. WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/3c3289bc49b5d5b3 removed. WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 16 files 6 sk0: link state changed to UP Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 0 0 done All buffers synced. Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Oct 2 12:21:39 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ (1666.49-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0480800 real memory = 536084480 (511 MB) avail memory = 510578688 (486 MB) ACPI APIC Table: MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:09:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286941065693 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f203.google.com (mail-px0-f203.google.com [209.85.216.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23018FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi41 with SMTP id 41so7270065pxi.27 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:09:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wfGzssFexaRdrNuDOxeI6qwV6vAKZBtNj6Sy1KMbLNk=; b=kjI+PFpJO3pVV/TX00THwM3qABO82+9FImQvDeJ9E8CFjNNxkewq8gvbZ6vpEOE0j1 JrW53/D570O73M3LQ7usG/Tbw7t7eqwuhvMSgNWhX3nQZ9ZDpyG3UO1d53Atz+yKwk6c 5C5qhNaiOlNRJMXP/mjoRrxOjhja6tmvSrmT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HzFaxuydWUEMO6wpr+UHgf2EAAS4ZIo2XXgaUe+AbHsuhQ6Gt4U+Nyx8aEcAgLQkD0 duWGijlLBgo5E5BkcMrCU2qBI8ZyisbsCxLnNlLDbC/JWPRwDhG4lsdI/ng4AAZG6DQI Eh4wp0TUV+stM5aJYZhezf1YluuHL89q2lXbI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.117.25 with SMTP id p25mr4675271wfc.301.1265666947439; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:09:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:09:07 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002081409j5bf332c3s37d5acdad82bef3a@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Danny Edge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem building GCC - Postfix install from ports failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:09:08 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Danny Edge wrote: > I was advised to try this again. New install FreeBSD 7.2 R, installing > Postfix from cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix && make install clean > > I receive the following error near the end of the install: > > checking whether -fkeep-inline-functions is supported... yes > updating cache ./config.cache > creating ./config.status > creating Makefile > ===> Building for gcc-4.2.5_20090325 > cd ./..//gcc-4.2-20090325 && autogen Makefile.def > autogen: not found > gmake: *** [..//gcc-4.2-20090325/Makefile.in] Error 127 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/addresses. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail. > mx# > I guess gcc42 requires /usr/ports/devel/autogen Looks like the port is missing a dependency for some reason. Try installing that port, and resume your gcc build. If it works you could file a bug report. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:12:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938011065700 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55D578FC29 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91950 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 22:12:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265667128; bh=bP3qLwLgAWaiaT1Qi8K++dObOSudc7ets7DIJ8v8wVc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1uwWGJNVqlEp4rgGUERxeEI5GpnMnpN3nictRaCg3YBDcy/8nzhUQnv69KIF6KqKuTi1TCbw7dY9jzKY7v/WExjPJC/bcsUKIrHewUQi7KwZX87F645aGMdtpbofKOmIGdYSjRouVExLqbKgMXEU+OTElRNHW4CMgQxGZT6T6+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:13:07 -0600 Message-ID: <11646_1265667228_4B708C9C_11646_2871_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF4FB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002081327k20bb39aey5a24d1b9337e41f9@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Updating packages in Jails Thread-Index: AcqpBZ5VbfrJcy9VTeWMUiVy1kfLbQABVWHw References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin><32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin><6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com><20100208211524.GA57127@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <6201873e1002081327k20bb39aey5a24d1b9337e41f9@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Adam Vande More" , "Jason" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2010 22:13:48.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD052E30:01CAA90B] Cc: "Richard L. Houston" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:13:59 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Adam Vande More Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:28 PM To: Jason Cc: Richard L. Houston; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Jason wrote: > Use this as a starting point >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html >> >> Anyways, host and jail need to run the exact same kernel. Normally I'll >> build my kernel and install it into the base as well as each individual >> jail >> so everything is consistent. >> > > Why do they need to run the exact same kernel? I didn't see that anywhere > in > the document, unless I missed it. > > thanks > They aren't a full form of visualization in terms of having a hypervisor, as it is dependent the system calls coming from a jail being the same calls that are present in the host kernel. Mismatched kernel version could break that mapping. Which is also why jails are a faster form of virtualization because all the call mappings are 1:1. At least that's my understanding. Question: Hopefully this isn't considered a hijack, but what are the *main* diffs between jails and vm's? I've never worked with jails but read about them several times. Do they allow controlling of CPU cycles, Memory regions, etc. in the same manner as the file system(s) and network? Asked another way, what are some Usage cases where jails would be equal or more appropriate than full on vm's and vice-versa. We use vm's quite extensively and I'm wondering of some of these can be done in jails instead. TIA! Gary PS: Note - no top posting this time!
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:17:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD4106568F; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188E8FC2B; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALMbcEuDaFvJ/2dsb2JhbADXHIRUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,432,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="64833033" Received: from ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.91.201]) by esa-annu-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 17:17:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7F8FB808C; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:17:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca Received: from ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vJOpihBQ2MjL; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.102]) by ganges.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A97FB8039; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmacklem@localhost) by muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o18MSvt17944; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:28:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca: rmacklem owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:28:57 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem X-X-Sender: rmacklem@muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B704804.4030802@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B704804.4030802@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:17:43 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: >> >> Oh, and you should set: >> sysctl vfs.newnfs.locallocks_enable=0 >> in the server, since I haven't fixed the local locking yet. (This implies >> that apps/daemons running locally on the server won't see byte range >> locks performed by NFSv4 clients.) However, byte range locking between >> NFSv4 clients should work ok. >> > > Interesting, I see a lot of vfs.newfs-stuff on server-side, but not this > specific OID. Do I miss something here? > Oops, make that vfs.newnfs.enable_locallocks=0 rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:20:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0363106566C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galvez@virginia.edu) Received: from d-137-145-98.bootp.virginia.edu (d-137-145-98.bootp.Virginia.EDU [137.54.145.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301C08FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by d-137-145-98.bootp.virginia.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id 62EB61542751; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:19:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:19:33 -0500 From: Mike Galvez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100208191933.GD974@virginia.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: Darwin User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Need help troubleshooting NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:20:28 -0000 Over the weekend one my servers went down due to extended power failure. The file system reports clean, but something has gone sideways with networking. The server is a Dell 2950 running 7.0 release, and it's been working fine for well over a year. It uses the BCE driver. Ifconfig shows it to be up and active and configured with the correct IP, mask and gateway, but I can't ping anything. I've tested the ethernet connection with a nearby machine and it works. I also booted the 2950 from an Ubuntu live CD and the NIC worked, so i don't think it's a hardware issue. Is there a way I can rebuild the driver without having to rebuild the kernel? -- Michael Galvez Information Technology Specialist University of Virginia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:24:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292BD1065695 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52BA8FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so1491776iwn.3 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hmfVCVqcK2WGW+Hcn2q1snoK69h0KAnjlAdbGeykHak=; b=U3dELByQK3hfmW+lnXwxTCDs/Rk5DECdaBDiyOto7WwSVRyyfI5GKTwIxpxhTxNd0R oan4atEFiJW+lW/OcHU1xz4S8uVhYKw4zaNZZeX2ciCRQoilLNN17ciYz1zPX39JzSm6 S6o6wQyJMKJsFWCrpSA+PsSHMIOBTdK5ybstc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WyPdOqINsv9BQExS2sHxfYx202GXlBEO1+mWUCwliRX9dYDpn1WhOh5m+r9F15Kkmd ekZSA0ntzNpFT2CNlmuSkgsSOnruQu8MUWcOW5qxtWs6gYHNiXdknRaw47RVCWV0DSiI gSkwNcVjpBDu7B9zN7+V+OeitfkqPO2bE+Z1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.9.1 with SMTP id 1mr4704151wfi.92.1265667879127; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100208191933.GD974@virginia.edu> References: <20100208191933.GD974@virginia.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:24:39 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002081424k26a05847u88089f965cb0ae48@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Mike Galvez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help troubleshooting NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:24:40 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Mike Galvez wrote: > Over the weekend one my servers went down due to extended power failure. > The file system reports clean, but something has gone sideways with > networking. The server is a Dell 2950 running 7.0 release, and it's been > working fine for well over a year. It uses the BCE driver. Ifconfig > shows it to be up and active and configured with the correct IP, mask > and gateway, but I can't ping anything. > > I've tested the ethernet connection with a nearby machine and it works. > I also booted the 2950 from an Ubuntu live CD and the NIC worked, so i > don't think it's a hardware issue. > > Is there a way I can rebuild the driver without having to rebuild the > kernel? > What does netstat -r show? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:26:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259AA1065672; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A9E8FC1A; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:26:14 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAsecEuDaFvI/2dsb2JhbADXI4RUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,431,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="64834009" Received: from darling.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.91.200]) by esa-annu-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2010 17:26:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by darling.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF80940100; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:26:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at darling.cs.uoguelph.ca Received: from darling.cs.uoguelph.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (darling.cs.uoguelph.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yj9ugIEvLwp7; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.102]) by darling.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA23F9400FE; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmacklem@localhost) by muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o18MbT018620; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:37:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca: rmacklem owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:37:29 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem X-X-Sender: rmacklem@muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:26:15 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > > So I guess the above one is the more 'transparent' one with respect to the > future, when NFSv4 gets mature and its way as matured into the kernel? > Yea, I'd only use "mount -t newnfs" if for some reason you want to test/use the experimental client for nfsv2,3 instead of the regular one. > I tried the above and it works. But it seems, that only UFS2 filesystems can > be mounted by the client. When trying mounting a filesystem residing on ZFS, > it fails. Mounting works, but when try to access or doing a simple 'ls', I > get > > ls: /backup: Permission denied > > > On server side, /etc/exports looks like > > -- > V4: / -sec=sys:krb5 #IPv4# > > /backup #IPv4# > -- > > Is there still an issue with ZFS? > For ZFS, everything from the "root" specified by the "V4:" line must be exported at this time. So, if "/" isn't exported, the above won't work for ZFS. You can either export "/" or move the NFSv4 root down to backup. For example, you could try: V4: /backup -sec=sys:krb5 /backup (assuming /backup is the ZFS volume) and then a mount like: mount -t nfs -o nfsv4 server:/ /mnt will mount /backup on /mnt rick ps: ZFS also has its own export stuff, but it is my understanding that putting a line in /etc/exports is sufficient. I've never used ZFS, so others will know more than I. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 22:53:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2501065672 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galvez@virginia.edu) Received: from d-137-145-98.bootp.virginia.edu (d-137-145-98.bootp.Virginia.EDU [137.54.145.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679588FC24 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by d-137-145-98.bootp.virginia.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id 360821542F95; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:53:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:53:26 -0500 From: Mike Galvez To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100208225326.GF974@virginia.edu> References: <20100208191933.GD974@virginia.edu> <6201873e1002081424k26a05847u88089f965cb0ae48@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002081424k26a05847u88089f965cb0ae48@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: Darwin User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help troubleshooting NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:53:27 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:24:39PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Mike Galvez wrote: > > > Over the weekend one my servers went down due to extended power failure. > > The file system reports clean, but something has gone sideways with > > networking. The server is a Dell 2950 running 7.0 release, and it's been > > working fine for well over a year. It uses the BCE driver. Ifconfig > > shows it to be up and active and configured with the correct IP, mask > > and gateway, but I can't ping anything. > > > > I've tested the ethernet connection with a nearby machine and it works. > > I also booted the 2950 from an Ubuntu live CD and the NIC worked, so i > > don't think it's a hardware issue. > > > > Is there a way I can rebuild the driver without having to rebuild the > > kernel? > > > > What does netstat -r show? > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Adam, Thanks for the reply. netstat -r shows a segfault before it finishes. The machine is back online, but I beginning to think that maybe the nics are flaky after all. netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default carruthers1-all-ro UGS 0 498375 bce0 localhost localhost UH 0 270 lo0 128.143.87.0 link#1 UC 0 0 bce0 carruthers1-all-ro 00:d0:05:34:40:00 UHLW 2 0 bce0 1197 Segmentation fault -- Michael Galvez Information Technology Specialist University of Virginia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 23:03:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D951065679 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E074C8FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so1545682iwn.3 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:03:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r3moLBgYJtJbjcgQEfkDfVKDF8j5SPtR98jvQD2KYao=; b=aIhQms3mhas7IhTnGoVk3vvznUqbHWQN2BcwFhTGLna9esP3YjZaqMbsQVgMQ3jKPP HX5nujZcIXKH43CjxyhZkRIUcdKxnrjRTRNWzF3NXJ71JZfQ0hAl/i5ncxl/BmFtMh3f OYSFnCyKmLa4DjvQrqzH8NCzdx3aJkj5wbEQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eFS/2ghhDy5I2qD6/cRy0x6I3i3q7sfm072VKV9BcSfLE8mGBdm98esSearQHr1t5p dCV1mUJZWI3gUeFZh65Rr5XqukyJHoquuXRVUzfKflKv+CQPc8pLL0Bied8vZfvtJjDy UKxdgFxXIUFJhHSHDkUc/bq08qbduqapBDafg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.207 with SMTP id k15mr3190505ibx.75.1265668350992; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:32:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:32:30 -0800 Message-ID: From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:03:55 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Rick Macklem wrote: > ps: ZFS also has its own export stuff, but it is my understanding that > putting a line in /etc/exports is sufficient. I've never used ZFS, > so others will know more than I. > My understanding (from having used NFS and ZFS, haven't looked at the code) is that: The sharenfs property for a ZFS dataset gets written out to /etc/zfs/exports, which gets appended to the mountd command-line by default. Thus, you can use /etc/exports or sharenfs property, whichever is easier. # zfs get sharenfs storage/backup NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE storage/backup sharenfs -maproot=root 192.168.0.12 local # cat /etc/exports # cat /etc/zfs/exports # !!! DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE MANUALLY !!! /storage/backup -maproot=root 192.168.0.12 # pgrep -lf exports 1381 /usr/sbin/mountd -r -p 32000 /etc/exports /etc/zfs/exports -- Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 23:52:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBDD106566B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A7B8FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C848C06; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.cran.uk.to (client-86-31-218-178.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.218.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:53:03 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002082353.04058.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Peter Steele Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:52:43 -0000 On Monday 08 February 2010 14:09:48 Peter Steele wrote: > I've set up a system with gpart and have the swap partition first followed > by root, var, and so on. This works fine but I've seen documents that > always have root first, then swap. Is there any reason that root should be > the first partition or can it follow swap space? It may partly be historical: old PCs couldn't boot from past 504MB due to the 1023 cylinder limitation so /boot had to be first on the disk. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 00:15:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C894106568B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69378FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o190Eko2027627; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:14:46 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:14:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002081154.26064.pieter@service2media.com> <201002082219.02103.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201002082219.02103.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002090114.46167.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:15:14 -0000 On Monday 08 February 2010 21:19:01 Mihai Don=C8=9Bu wrote: > On Monday 08 February 2010 12:54:26 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > > Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can > > > see a difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off t= he > > > raid, under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds= ), > > > under ext4 the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. > > > > File deletion speed is relevant how? > > It can be, depending on the workload. I (as a Linux user) moved from ext3 > to xfs, ignoring the warnings about file deletion [being slow]. Now I _ki= nd > of_ regret it. Seems I have more than one program on my laptop that delet= es > files (kmail's email-expiration thing comes to mind). I also work on a > project that creates large log files an deletes them (periodically). When > all these programs meet, I go for a coffee. :) I agree that file deletion speed can be important in normal usage scenarios= =2E=20 However my question was asked in the context of an FTP up or download, whic= h=20 does not involve deleting files. :-) =2D- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 00:38:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EE31065761 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3D18FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:38:47 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KXJ00F49TSMOD90@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002080236 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4B701CC8.6010407@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:38:46 -0800 Message-id: <964ACE53-30E5-4CF0-AE3E-200EFA368CFC@mac.com> References: <4B6C94C7.6030609@pixelhammer.com> <4B6CBCA1.4080108@radel.com> <4B701CC8.6010407@pixelhammer.com> To: DAve X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: Re: NTP Stratum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:38:48 -0000 On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:16 AM, DAve wrote: > I am syncing with three server from N.us.pool.ntp.org. I have no fudge > configured. > > ]# ntpq -c peers > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ============================================================================== > ns-01.tls.net .INIT. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 > 4000.00 > +www.broadbandja 66.250.45.2 3 u 510 1024 377 61.944 3.528 > 0.230 > *point2.adamants 128.138.140.44 2 u 447 1024 377 59.360 0.863 > 0.154 > +66.36.239.104 69.64.37.141 3 u 507 1024 377 28.763 2.623 > 1.182 > > I am pretty sure I am just reading the man pages incorrectly, but then > others things seem confusing as well. A stratum-0 timesource is a reference clock like a GPS signal, atomic clock, or other very-high-quality timesource. A computer running ntpd can sync time to such a device, and will thus be a stratum-1 timeserver. Seeing NTP packets claiming to be stratum-0 is a sure indication that the ntpd thinks it is not properly synchronized, and NTP clients should ignore this timesource as a consequence. See: http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-algo.htm#Q-ALGO-BASIC-STRATUM "The stratum is a measure for synchronization distance. Opposed to jitter or delay the stratum is a more static measure. Basically (and from the perspective from a client) it is the number of servers to a reference clock. So a reference clock itself appears at stratum 0, while the closest servers are at stratum 1. On the network there is no valid NTP message with stratum 0." [ ... ] > I vote for higher, I have no fudge configured and my servers are > claiming to be stratum 0 when I check them from outside. But!! Never > trusting my observations until checking again, I see when I tested that > my clocks were off. So if I cannot sync, my server continues to answer > time queries but claims to be stratum 0. > > I am thinking I am getting closer to grasping this. That's correct. If you run something like: # ntpq -pc rv localhost assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events, event_peer/strat_chg, version="ntpd 4.2.4p5-a Tue Jan 12 18:52:12 EST 2010 (1)", processor="i386", system="FreeBSD/6.4-STABLE", leap=00, stratum=2, precision=-19, rootdelay=33.115, rootdispersion=28.426, peer=51948, refid=18.26.4.105, reftime=cf1b25fa.21d555c1 Mon, Feb 8 2010 19:08:26.132, poll=9, clock=cf1b2a9f.c570e0a6 Mon, Feb 8 2010 19:28:15.771, state=4, offset=-0.042, frequency=19.313, jitter=1.902, noise=0.625, stability=0.001, tai=0 remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== +ntp.pbx.org 192.5.41.40 2 u 477 512 377 30.744 1.763 0.702 *bonehed.lcs.mit .GPS. 1 u 165 512 377 33.115 -0.495 0.157 -hickory.cc.colu 128.59.39.48 2 u 482 512 377 30.943 3.618 0.468 +time1.apple.com 17.72.133.55 2 u 465 512 377 54.572 1.374 8.022 rrcs-24-103-228 18.26.4.105 2 u 505 512 377 34.623 -11.983 1.139 rrcs-24-103-228 .INIT. 16 u - 512 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 ...pay attention to the status in the first line, which in the above case reads "sync_ntp". I bet you're getting sync_unspec for your status. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 01:04:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB4106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EAE8FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:04:35 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KXJ00K14UZLAG20@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002080242 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:04:32 -0800 Message-id: <48C3CF5F-3781-4423-868F-C60A4E20C2BE@mac.com> References: <97371e801002070554n7a76a85fnbcce0cea7127cdb9@mail.gmail.com> To: yavuz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cheating OS fingerprinting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:04:35 -0000 On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:54 AM, yavuz wrote: > I want to cheat os fingerprinting tools ( primary nmap) in my freebsd > machine. Assume I am using freebsd 8 and I want to be seen as a windows xp > machine when someone scans my ports. I'll try not to second-guess this goal, but you should be aware that people using OS fingerprinting mechanisms (ie, p0f interface for amavisd) are going to penalize a machine which looks like a Windows box compared with a Unix platform. > In order to determine target host's OS, nmap sends seven TCP/IP crafted > packets (called tests) and waits for the answer. Results are checked against > a database of known results (OS signatures database). If the answer matches > any of the entries in the database, it can guess that the remote OS is the > same that the one in the database. Some Nmap packets are sent to an open > port and the others to a closed port; depending on that results, the remote > OS is guessed. So to cheat nmap, I have to analyze all incomming packets (as > a firewall) and if a test packet coming from a scanner is found I have to > give appropriate reply packet (depending on the os signature I want to use). That's correct. If you simply care about blocking nmap scans, set up firewall rules to block the following TCP th_flag combinations (see /usr/include/netinet/tcp.h): TH_SYN | TH_ECE # nmap T1 # nmap T2 TH_FIN | TH_SYN | TH_PUSH | TH_URG # nmap T3 TH_FIN | TH_URG | TH_PUSH # nmap T7 The other TCP test packets use valid TCP flag combinations and cannot be blocked just by looking at that field. However, you can also check for TCP options being set in the initial SYN packets; nmap uses or used WNMTE. FreeBSD tends to use MNWNNT or MNNSNWNNT with a starting window size of 65535 (but so does other BSD platforms like MacOSX, NetBSD, etc). If you want to look more like Windows XP, you'd want to disable TCP timestamp option but make sure that SACK is enabled; ie, use TCP options like MNNS, MNWNNS, MNWNNSNN and initial window size of 16384. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 01:54:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9CC1065676 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AAD8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1232640bwz.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:54:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wlVjOJciCkxZb4x3beWneCStsKEeZBhkxHH3B0A2Zuo=; b=aqoVIK56rmuazd/6xvAPWRPQbPkrM9yBBxnLxFaw5Lwwfxzwni2R6YL72B4UH6XXWB /08pD0hZG9wIrs9ScNuEzrvuCQ0Y4yWV5o7S24SqrJ1bh1ZIdphgYjrtuRRveYMW6RMF RwKlkf+5mwTV9IFXvIQcRGS9ekFNrITwtUEvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=T25HeKkWuhEKGmer5E9vkuKljIOE8nK8i5ZOTeq/VyKFL1ZV6oJ5W1y9svNM4jm9en mLqvwk2qStGV1bFNnp+WotRXp8Iqo4a4riuHAZSXb4IQOU+fuXLlXuVSU67vqAMaMmEp BE959Wr3EoQzrSrzNgN9JB8Bs7FANhRO5UYqk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.83 with SMTP id n19mr194330bka.96.1265680451275; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:54:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 02:54:11 +0100 Message-ID: <19861fba1002081754v63905bbjff660fe612b195e2@mail.gmail.com> From: J65nko To: alex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:54:13 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, alex wrote: > I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the > difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred disk > writes etc. Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a > difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid, > under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), under ext4 > the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. > > But what I said with ext4 being faster then the aging UFS still rings true > in my mind, look at the recent Phoronix benchmarks for yourself and see (10 > pages of benchmarks). > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 > (skip to page 7 of the benchmarks if you want to see the I/O stuff relating > to disk performance) According to the first page they used the default configuration of all benchmarked OS'es. And what is the default mount option on Linux "async" The FreeBSD man page for mount describes this "async" option as follows: async All I/O to the file system should be done asynchronously. This is a dangerous flag to set, since it does not guar- antee that the file system structure on the disk will remain consistent. For this reason, the async flag should be used sparingly, and only when some data recov- ery mechanism is present. The OpenBSD man page has the following additional remark: The most common use of this flag is to speed up restore(8) where it can give a factor of two speed in- crease. Conclusion: you cannot compare filesystem performance, when you give one a unfair speed advantage of what could be a factor two. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 19:04:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B88F1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericp@andersonbrothers.biz) Received: from mail.andersonbrothers.biz (mail.andersonbrothers.biz [207.42.17.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BD88FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [208.34.34.101] (208.34.34.101) by ANDERSON-SBS.anderson.local (208.34.34.109) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:53:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> From: Eric Petersen Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:53:22 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:57:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:04:44 -0000 Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting "filesystem full" errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. Thank you for your time and have a great day. -- Eric Petersen Pre-Press Technician Anderson Brothers Printing Company 4525 41st Street Sioux City, Iowa 51108 phone: 712.239.5555 fax: 712.239.3322 e-mail: ericp@andersonbrothers.biz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 8 20:37:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7441065752 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (posta.ihlasnet.com.tr [213.238.128.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C392B8FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44344 invoked by uid 89); 8 Feb 2010 22:37:12 +0200 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=netiletisim.net; b=gq+NgFERhVscB4LemHpu1oiNWunVORvWNGb1nDJtLtTaQ5nU8qF0uQZchQ+eYdJOPw3BUmTVMe1zkmJltZed8PzyJVq9g5D0v8MxuePWEZr1defvqGU6OwwhYALQxM2GePd0/hR+0wBNhqO+dL/z+dormPLQ/8hOd9Z04ZPlgr4= ; Received: from ihlasnetym (HELO desktop2002) (yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net@213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 22:37:12 +0200 Message-ID: <282EFEAFDE1F402E8ADDD0232F051D8A@desktop2002> From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= To: Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:36:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:58:25 +0000 Subject: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:37:16 -0000 I use freebsd7.2 I have an iphone. I wish to establish a vpn connection between the iphone and my freebsd server as client to server. What sort of softwares shall I use for it ? Could you give me an example? any advances? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 03:24:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19443106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63CC8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A033A3885; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:04 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1265685844; x= 1267500244; bh=YldN9Ld2O9g/D66maFgRxcgQNVJBFX/ugsETZXZVzpE=; b=V fy60Hx3Z2PI20eDLqkzd/lABVE900NOdLrrhdplPcdkKGD2X9NGkbIk+ySZCT1bf SXw/PaEMfkDB9yod3eXYLqJjBf82OlGK2Q/so/S+3a6oZRoUMDjGdSgtp2wO35fL AUgIHe2vOrrJmCS74ZbbxA4wqIaPSoZ80wq1ocr338= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 3kgugQqSV9O9; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:04 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 193323A3880; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:04 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o193O0qH043320; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:00 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:00 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201002090324.o193O0qH043320@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ericp@andersonbrothers.biz In-reply-to: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> (message from Eric Petersen on Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:53:22 -0600) References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:24:07 -0000 > I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple > of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original > install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Have you tried booting in single user mode? Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 03:30:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18E1065692 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65848FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1265617bwz.13 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:30:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YodWNWbNS/O275VDOtxU5fKKfWiCqbFNomf+e9MSgA0=; b=GJmbmpcucSYXgFWtX6resQe9jmyPJ+ALpwZrIIAkWi26aT3ehcw7VNG7jrJBzlsk4X ncK4teIyL/YxFimw30/V3XbuxfG4XzEc7IIaVKchOnXGI0BZPlZzx+cx2uAtSaW1owfE eu0auWxE/Sw63fW3exiBDT/ZF2WOLf1i7uc0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=astOKYNRcF/SB7//Vx0s4mPxua/tCAr/kPVz6QZ2xs3JWP+KkkjOQGfFLEEYK/BOOq GU/auEddC75Q5LE2YT0h6njawsW4QF4Tvifpbuq5n/MYIWVfYKgBAIbLJ5h0ih627RNK ys3VFpQ3scgxHC1KgwPJzcCRt11CRZxqGNhZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.153 with SMTP id g25mr2476691bkw.158.1265686233536; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:30:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:30:33 +0100 Message-ID: <19861fba1002081930r270f0718hca2c862f50f1b445@mail.gmail.com> From: J65nko To: Eric Petersen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:30:35 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Eric Petersen wrote: > Hey guys, > > I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years > back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have > gone out of business and cannot be found. > > Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the > server and I'm getting "filesystem full" errors and since I don't have a > password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have > made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal > level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. > > I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know > where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will > return anytime soon with out further assistance. > > Thank you for your time and have a great day. > Read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW how to become root or the superuser. It could be wise to hire somebody to fix the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 03:40:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68554106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C80A8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D50C205963B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tTilzvpbKAuz for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DD42057EEF for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103E668CB54EE; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8TG3Kn9sqMWf; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id DDE6768CB54E0; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:40:28 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209034028.GA9490@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <282EFEAFDE1F402E8ADDD0232F051D8A@desktop2002> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <282EFEAFDE1F402E8ADDD0232F051D8A@desktop2002> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:40:30 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010, Yavuz Ma?lak wrote: > I use freebsd7.2 > > I have an iphone. I wish to establish a vpn connection between the iphone > and my freebsd server as client to server. > What sort of softwares shall I use for it ? I just went through this for Linux/iPhone last week. The easiest for the iPhone is probably PPTP. One *nix side of this is poptop. I don't know what's required on freebsd. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 People who relieve others of their money with guns are called robbers. It does not alter the immorality of the act when the income transfer is carried out by government. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 03:42:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C2D1065692 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2F68FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o193fu5v092928 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:41:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201002090341.o193fu5v092928@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:41:56 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: sysinstall and mfs Great News and another Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:42:12 -0000 I really hate to give up on anything and I finally found out my problem with getting sysinstall to use the hard drive rather than garbaging up mfs every time. The problem is not something you can set in the partition editor or disklabel editor. It is found in the very first menu which oddly is numbered 2 and is the options editor. The option that makes it all work is one that lets you specify where you want the distribution to go on the drive. It is always set for you when using the CDROM unless you were formatting another disk so it is kind of easy to miss. I missed it for a week and a half. Now the question. There are a bunch of functions that can be set in sysinstall such as the bsdlabel editor, partition editor and dists to name a few. It would be nice to be able to set that mount point in install.cfg because I am trying to make a script that coworkers can run to configure a system quickly without having to waste a week of their own trying to figure it all out. It turns out that one can format the disk, mount /dev/ad0s1a on /mnt and then one must set the root option to /mnt and things work so much better! Occasionally, /var fills up and I haven't figured out why but it appears that ftp gets ahead of the ability to store the files. Whatever it happening, it is now more right than wrong. Again, thanks for all your help. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 04:31:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715EE106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3931C8FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:31:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=itVrKB2XG0UfzXXN2_oA:9 a=LmnPVZZvfoWXUZvYNLcA:7 a=OErGqjkU7B2a6-SumNMriRbod8EA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:49800] helo=[10.0.0.3]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 2C/53-27681-A25E07B4; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:31:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:31:37 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Eric Petersen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:31:39 -0000 --On February 8, 2010 12:53:22 PM -0600 Eric Petersen wrote: > Hey guys, > > I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of > years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original > install have gone out of business and cannot be found. > > Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to > the server and I'm getting "filesystem full" errors and since I don't > have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows > UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed > on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no > forwarding. > Without a password, you need physical access to the server in order to fix the problem. It sounds like you have that, since you said you hooked up a monitor to it. Here's the steps you can take to "retrieve" the password. Shut the server down by hitting the power button. Then turn it back on and watch the prompts when it's booting up. Chose single user mode. Then follow these steps: # The system will print out "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" # Hit enter to get a prompt # Type fsck -p # Type mount -a # Type passwd You'll be prompted for the password twice. This is the root password, so it will give you full access to the system. # Type exit to return to normal operation. Write the password down and lock it up in the company safe. Surely you have professional Unix support available in Sioux City? Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 04:40:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9A8106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F0B8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o194e79R075320 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:40:11 -0000 Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like "sqrt(2)" in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, Been looking for hours; can't find. thanks for any clues, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 06:01:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CBC1065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gtivey@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 817A18FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 56257 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2010 05:34:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zEKeOIL9EfY+/C04BKVU3dfHM6cjVP9A9mn8GVX/QNomARhS8rcDa5ttXwgU+Fg4ZTz+DHPSdwAhiHJTDUAclUv7EelRyQHdQKSwCk9m0d8JtzdP0z+RVt7/A2PUUVSQjbgctAW+zTXrhk7tXDmzlJ/EZHJbuabsGe4Nb/1H3Yc= ; Received: from [10.4.26.1] (gtivey@75.34.102.200 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Feb 2010 21:34:48 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: DJYayzOswBAQjgPRKVCftNUvaND01nh63Fmy.pXl6K.Y X-YMail-OSG: O1qNXLcVM1l4Nf7IeHj0ZxNiAq91Z4uIMZT8r5jHzwBn7RgJ0gp7gDXV6lNlcJqlKUr_xvCCKdX1UYZIuUpMJ33NaXzeXKkr659ntsaWxhn1oLAPSmmQyHY0EDu28kryR2t74MJ_assmDKESpFAdPx5VKfotUg.E4tu2r2ZqsQ5UWHSHj_uxcTB1rC0GA_N2HkfgM9oQGPIZtJ6k9g2mK1rKkvdZx4CYosNxUjfiRsCqd8NAJjX0hKvIx_JgDdRr09vGseJLZA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:34:38 -0600 From: Tiv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090908 Fedora/1.1.18-1.fc11 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:01:28 -0000 Hi there --- I'm writing this to tell you how much FreeBSD has gone downhill since version 5.3... I don't know who's bright idea it was to remove the xorgcfg and the xorgconfig programs, but they should be beaten sensless with an IBM AT keyboard. Also if you REQUIRE that dbus and hald be enabled for so called auto-configuration, put it in the dam rc.conf file. After an hour of dicking around with the X configuration, and it still doesn't work.... I install something else ---- this is 2010 fer cryin' out load... Linux doesn't have this problem. thanks for making freebsd a pain in the ass, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 06:54:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D46106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A86848FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42241 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2010 06:54:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265698496; bh=uhTV6Z2zDRE2irzdF5poCd69uMpOxE8Uu+RXBvKqinQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N5gL7cjPJVqLX0uQGPB6PTBp+pAohf18AEjI+jZfaS+nCiyhOhXermH5K/iPVbtdD8zljHcaQ3Mv2mLbMI77YS0kQF5pGnGtxF3XnD/4YDqMpY3D4QnFSe4yrsI+LQEbYXeG91wO/SQz6rtHjdlSOKlk3fPg6E23jYwz2djtvvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QqryuC29U6vK9RO5jZT6CklGFE5Lkvcm9xCly/IT2163rPxj5Js48t5wd5lso116/pNRPhsr5xwgUadRjJhn4PpJrpthzDwDS+Cyj3stPTt7EaBKgbo9ZdMs1RKDTpH0HHydh1F0S6pYH+Gn/OpnDZIy29CZQUiPuRjQCWOOl8I=; Message-ID: <133967.39832.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vuU7FSYVM1njeZzVtrYfuhTjC9SIqBc8FdFtmeJrYVNcWMfi9deQ_Iqfbl.WUJz8WkIuXYygZAxZC_yaYgb0sNx.4g1.EkmWw15eAQkKY.m0_zo1YzxaAdUhsMxJF1JBWyRqtpiEc9G_T0s5ecrmSrqlZEUg_mjC5QAfXmpYzpiF8AmqJ3fSLC5Te3p40JXSS1x_svwRAP9_ILTeC7yp_B5ZhIAXUP.awDZTTX0uSVTRcvVJXkK4ceArGXGuAz6iKRTLdGR0cz7voQzVtnGb06KKU3SZAcM7T3r23fmhUjligJ1zci7rjd9DISjfIZe70Ujsu6VVWWNbVbTITTKpU96yLwJ7mMTMBwyxoks95a3DajKZim_W Received: from [68.142.241.49] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:54:56 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:54:56 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: "freebsd@celestial.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:54:57 -0000 hi,=0Ai also choose poptop and pptp but i'm still getting errors while conn= ecting, would you be so kind to send me some configuration files?=0A=0Al=E1= szl=F3=0A=0AOn 2010.02.09., at 4:40, Bill Campbell = wrote:=0A=0AOn Mon, Feb 08, 2010, Yavuz Ma?lak wrote:=0AI use freebsd7.2=0A= =0AI have an iphone. I wish to establish a vpn connection between the iphon= e =0Aand my freebsd server as client to server.=0AWhat sort of softwares sh= all I use for it ?=0A=0AI just went through this for Linux/iPhone last week= .=0A=0AThe easiest for the iPhone is probably PPTP. One *nix side of=0Athi= s is poptop. I don't know what's required on freebsd.=0A=0ABill=0A-- =0AIN= TERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC=0AURL: = http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way=0AVoice: = (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820=0AFax: (206) 232-9= 186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792=0A=0APeople who relieve others of their= money with guns are called robbers. It=0Adoes not alter the immorality of = the act when the income transfer is=0Acarried out by government.=0A________= _______________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mai= ling list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0AT= o unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 06:56:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350AD106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E90EC8FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 06:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21255 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2010 06:56:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265698611; bh=Y/7ouLxGZRts35DPFki5kCiGPROLxK4Xgj0mV7FBiHM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BYf6QQJP1Bp821cIH9PwTXJhwUxMrvXsDmH1ghqEGaxcha5HGqjoIlwaEmOOu9//ZIQTxj656YycBf6FlApmS/Yh/sifm1t20S9cEy1nNzYVg/EmeFNWcCqpGQqofYIG/TuDqZlMkCBONSrGsYmn/MHK3/ZyievTzSPGnLvsDcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=odcQ/crMmXmWTN2jdLAZqABVb8ctXc87wb/4XXM5oUmkCf2dZk2ZItUL61rErk+/sS7hREuuDhhnwDGYKMuiKQ24h6D58lYWrI0S3OMjKv/Lb9vizIl+QussPX04YkAgmw9uwP2GxmNIMwf7zLM8eV9dqrikqzI4foa3NblBZzs=; Message-ID: <345326.21227.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BXAO9fcVM1n4SeYBgEnEePEacimeSmo1Y2VY8.A3lm526qwNmf7Fl5dF3TnnLqnGXMDvVD.ITsFwcwaqN1_KNexcf3zPI00geDwBbPHwqDvEfWZPQnDiNMDEY6.PsxLtva4V15U4JmuNYWAez2h6vTvjEtsb.WiEODLmLgDk5LGmf0mbHgntycBrl2k74y_W0BMEtIUki5ZAKmTRlWTlUOd_l.6FjpxFowhcIiieoCn5YH9gAyqmzQhjzqH7Vv.gPqhbsQZ.f6hT.a_mVag6Yz7wGDxe4YKWYiSR1209Cpf.7P15t4Oo3VcI_9iJcgO.kHGqax3E4puXyA-- Received: from [68.142.242.114] by web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:56:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:56:50 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?RMOhbmllbGlzeiBMw6FzemzDsw==?= To: =?utf-8?B?WWF2dXogTWHFn2xhaw==?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "" Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:56:52 -0000 hi,=0A=0Ai'm going with pptp but still can't manage it to work, in case i'l= l then i'll let you know :-)=0A=0AOn 2010.02.08., at 21:36, Yavuz Ma=C5=9Fl= ak wrote:=0A=0AI use freebsd7.2=0A=0AI have = an iphone. I wish to establish a vpn connection between the iphone and my f= reebsd server as client to server.=0AWhat sort of softwares shall I use for= it ?=0ACould you give me an example?=0Aany advances?=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A____= ___________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org= mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions= =0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 07:32:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F871065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C48FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o197W0Ws090001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:32:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o197W0Ws090001 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265700726; bh=l6JgPQ3a38l/f1fTU+EACyLLj4vRAxlg2TGXsAu5kws=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B710F6F.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2009=20Feb=202010=2007:31:59=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Adam=20Vande=20More=20|CC:=20"Richard=20L.=20Houston"=20,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=2 0Updating=20packages=20in=20Jails|References:=20<12972016.97.12656 61043611.JavaMail.root@goblin>=09<32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaM ail.root@goblin>=20<6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@ma il.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1 e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20 text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=xS6Bg3msv/2xIPciX5uXuMdY0sYAO4js+M/VuZV0wLrMcbSXd8mYRJZ3D4qpRotsd Iz2zZQ/hDdAMKUXhsss6p82herw+L8ZlJcPnySsewxJJ3sLtYYd4gLHT/gHOjvJ8r2 /dLEoOiJuA5wGcs1WJKwJYDkrIOo7bqk0SNjiXlQ= Message-ID: <4B710F6F.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:31:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin> <32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin> <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "Richard L. Houston" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:32:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 21:09, Adam Vande More wrote: > Anyways, host and jail need to run the exact same kernel. Normally I'll > build my kernel and install it into the base as well as each individual jail > so everything is consistent. It's not so much 'need to run' as 'are running.' Jails don't have a separate kernel instance like (eg) LVM. Everything runs under the same kernel as the base system. You don't even need to install a kernel image into a jailed filesystem, and when using something like freebsd-update in a jail, just make the fairly obvious config file tweak that tells it to ignore kernel updates. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktxD28ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwKNQCcClChgJZnkl7SFO6VOYZLLV+q om4An0YdvsueTOcxG9UtEUDdTCmQMYeZ =bT6d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 07:56:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD497106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12AB8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o197tvJr090247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:55:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o197tvJr090247 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265702158; bh=7OzuBuH7D/85whDIa22ExbOsZJaalZMtyowm7Oj/CR8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B711505.4020907@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 009=20Feb=202010=2007:55:49=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ga ry=20Gatten=20|CC:=20Adam=20Vande=20More=20,=20Jason=20,=20=0D=0A=20"R ichard=20L.=20Houston"=20,=0D=0A=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Updating=20packages=20in=20Jail s|References:=20<12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin><3 2433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin><6201873e1002081309 m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com><20100208211524.GA57127@e ggman.experts-exchange.com>=09<6201873e1002081327k20bb39aey5a24d1b 9337e41f9@mail.gmail.com>=20<11646_1265667228_4B708C9C_11646_2871_ 1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF4FB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>|I n-Reply-To:=20<11646_1265667228_4B708C9C_11646_2871_1_70C0964126D6 6F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF4FB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>|X-Enigmail-Vers ion:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1 =3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boun dary=3D"------------enigCE3A29082C897995F5F932D7"; b=ZfcjxYLYX3MLVFK9at/9D7Xnx6+b7Ymf8f+pGhdQ3kQg7ZPCJnKu5WwV1fvlGYDxA Wx7ErKloTYYGyD0oQET4OmZFreLyW58lWIzHkZvguRqvTdV4CWOcB/3oS4nJ2xTy0M 6Y1EeXKtnsQjxm8uLpN+kwYGDXaEgEW5hjPOIjEk= Message-ID: <4B711505.4020907@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:55:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Gatten References: <12972016.97.1265661043611.JavaMail.root@goblin><32433176.107.1265661327344.JavaMail.root@goblin><6201873e1002081309m6a2d4916u828d39f1e0c9c2a@mail.gmail.com><20100208211524.GA57127@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <6201873e1002081327k20bb39aey5a24d1b9337e41f9@mail.gmail.com> <11646_1265667228_4B708C9C_11646_2871_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF4FB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <11646_1265667228_4B708C9C_11646_2871_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF4FB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCE3A29082C897995F5F932D7" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Adam Vande More , "Richard L. Houston" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jason Subject: Re: Updating packages in Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:56:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCE3A29082C897995F5F932D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/02/2010 22:13, Gary Gatten wrote: > Hopefully this isn't considered a hijack, but what are the *main* diffs= > between jails and vm's? I've never worked with jails but read about > them several times. Do they allow controlling of CPU cycles, Memory > regions, etc. in the same manner as the file system(s) and network? >=20 > Asked another way, what are some Usage cases where jails would be equal= > or more appropriate than full on vm's and vice-versa. We use vm's quit= e > extensively and I'm wondering of some of these can be done in jails > instead. The principal difference between Jails and full virtualisation is that a the base system and all jails on a machine run inside a single kernel instance. Jails see some or all of the same hardware which is shared with the base system and may be shared with other jails. Thus all jails have to run FreeBSD, and while you can install and run an older user-land on a newer base fairly successfully, (eg. a 7.2 jail running on an 8.0 base system) you can't do the converse. Trying to run an i386 jail on an amd64 base system is also not recommended. VMs don't have these limitations. The big advantage of jails is that they are very light-weight. You get the management advantages of virtualisation with almost none of the virtualisation overhead, other than disk usage. The whole jail concept is an elaboration of the well-known Unix chroot(2) system call. Jailing adds to this dedicated IP addresses for the jail -- but not a complete network stack just yet, so, for instance, you can't run a firewall inside the jail. Virtualisation of the network stack is a work in progress: google for VNET and VIMAGE if interested. You can use standard limits(1) controls on resource usage in the jail, and you can use cpuset(1) to tie jailed processes to specific CPU cores. Quotas tend not to work very well in jails: to control filesystem usage, it's best to create a separate filesystem of the appropriate size specifically for the jail. This is a very good situation for handling by ZFS. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enigCE3A29082C897995F5F932D7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktxFQwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx6kACfTmMticUmSYUCSz4+4lN5mpPx 0JsAn2ZaoxiqQhAxD1uZzTpBA1+2qQ7T =qItV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCE3A29082C897995F5F932D7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 08:07:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BA71065676 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD508FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1986tT9090354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:06:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1986tT9090354 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265702817; bh=7hPeE24Q4P1/5XXR6jin6iL+Tcu7nv0R/p/Mh7jkJTE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B71179F.9070605@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2009=20Feb=202010=2008:06:55=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Tiv=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20xorgconfi g=20missing=20FBD_8|References:=20<4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> |In-Reply-To:=20<4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net>|X-Enigmail-Versio n:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-T ransfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=z+BHcD/9T0ai8LHuogD3sJ9FXxPST9w1WjixynTTbOWXMG6OJP1ovMWdjYGvZOY1j 6dCsz/26dv8D2LOg4HIkZ/W+YhrFaYk4azjY95HC/xeJmQB5MHZQjq+X7xzDIu5OP2 4Kv7x7+ueOdlt7jc/j8FYIDQRHQ/TnITD67Ml924= Message-ID: <4B71179F.9070605@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:06:55 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tiv References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:07:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/02/2010 05:34, Tiv wrote: > Hi there --- > > I'm writing this to tell you how much FreeBSD has gone downhill since > version 5.3... > > I don't know who's bright idea it was to remove the xorgcfg and the > xorgconfig programs, > but they should be beaten sensless with an IBM AT keyboard. Also if you > REQUIRE that > dbus and hald be enabled for so called auto-configuration, put it in the > dam rc.conf file. > > After an hour of dicking around with the X configuration, and it still > doesn't work.... > I install something else ---- this is 2010 fer cryin' out load... Linux > doesn't have this problem. > > thanks for making freebsd a pain in the ass, > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Xorg isn't FreeBSD. Seeing as Linux runs pretty much exactly the same Xorg code as FreeBSD, then yes, Linux *does* have this problem. In fact the whole hal and dbus concept came from Linux. It's also the case that the Xorg developers recognise they screwed up: we're just waiting to see what they come up with as their next idea. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktxF58ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw6EACfbH5RyPI9BOAy3p9hX6S/5vb2 lTIAnRhhVHLWP5GI/80qVzU1vKkuJ/1S =BP1w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 09:29:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A8A106566C; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F7B8FC0C; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1NemPR-0004SA-4z>; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:29:29 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1NemPR-0006tJ-3G>; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:29:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4B712B54.4020000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:31:00 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Macklem References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:29:30 -0000 On 02/08/10 22:37, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> >> So I guess the above one is the more 'transparent' one with respect >> to the future, when NFSv4 gets mature and its way as matured into the >> kernel? >> > > Yea, I'd only use "mount -t newnfs" if for some reason you want to > test/use the experimental client for nfsv2,3 instead of the regular one. > >> I tried the above and it works. But it seems, that only UFS2 >> filesystems can be mounted by the client. When trying mounting a >> filesystem residing on ZFS, it fails. Mounting works, but when try to >> access or doing a simple 'ls', I get >> >> ls: /backup: Permission denied >> >> >> On server side, /etc/exports looks like >> >> -- >> V4: / -sec=sys:krb5 #IPv4# >> >> /backup #IPv4# >> -- >> >> Is there still an issue with ZFS? >> > For ZFS, everything from the "root" specified by the "V4:" line > must be exported at this time. So, if "/" isn't exported, the > above won't work for ZFS. You can either export "/" or move the > NFSv4 root down to backup. For example, you could try: > > V4: /backup -sec=sys:krb5 > /backup > > (assuming /backup is the ZFS volume) > > and then a mount like: > mount -t nfs -o nfsv4 server:/ /mnt > will mount /backup on /mnt > > rick > ps: ZFS also has its own export stuff, but it is my understanding that > putting a line in /etc/exports is sufficient. I've never used ZFS, > so others will know more than I. > Well, I guess I havn't uderstood everything of NFSv4. The 'concept' of the 'root' is new to me, maybe there are some deeper explanation of the purpose? Are there supposed to be more than one 'root' enries or only one? At this very moment mounting seems to work, but I always get a 'permission denied' error on every ZFS exported filesystem. Doing the same with UFS2 filesystems, everything works as expected. Is there a way to inspect the exports and mounts for the used NFS-protocol? When issuing 'mount', the 'backup' mount is repoted to be 'newnfs', I assume this reflects NFSv4 being used, now I need to figure out what's going wrong with the ZFS export. NFS export of the ZFS filesystem is enabled, but as far as I know, this feature is not used in FreeBSD since ZFS in FreeBSD lacks of the capabilities of autonomously exporting its via NFS - well, I'm not an expert in this matter. Thanks a lot, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 09:33:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C6A106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B572F8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so452327fga.13 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:33:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4QxXa8tGaEzNFk2EIPKPW/1GVmuG2MEudMXHSQALKpI=; b=rhHsVZ9jx9b1dqcRkbWQr4B9AyAZYJ8355pJnzsOIDR9V0TBR2xcDy+9Aqdt93EevJ 0m2WnPgWmop/I40dfG71VJ4ZwAtDOr410O0jY53J9uEat3+PUS7oSN5ibJGevr7V+U3x tYN+4RMD6dK43dbMQxERVe2EquUJErD0QtcKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=o55yltEtDtwdu4l7YbnIR3grwm+5zYndhjGCt+OD5uS2Lcd4DfUH77JWLqyRDIBFBC CZPJCsIBy7K/wolAinUbopHBtpIQcbXzYTJti4iFLV3b2U/5NIQsSnH5LsxYbtOFcCcB Bl6CO8HCzviXJyiTifBpDDXkUj7Hh+Ny7gaqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.193.11 with SMTP id g11mr770151hbi.69.1265708028484; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:33:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <19861fba1002081754v63905bbjff660fe612b195e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <19861fba1002081754v63905bbjff660fe612b195e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:33:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: J65nko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: alex , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:33:50 -0000 On 9 February 2010 01:54, J65nko wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, alex wrote: > > > > I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the > > difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred > disk > > writes etc. Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a > > difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid, > > under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), under > ext4 > > the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. > > > > But what I said with ext4 being faster then the aging UFS still rings > true > > in my mind, look at the recent Phoronix benchmarks for yourself and see > (10 > > pages of benchmarks). > > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 > > (skip to page 7 of the benchmarks if you want to see the I/O stuff > relating > > to disk performance) > > According to the first page they used the default configuration of all > benchmarked OS'es. > And what is the default mount option on Linux "async" > > The FreeBSD man page for mount describes this "async" option as follows: > > async All I/O to the file system should be done asynchronously. > This is a dangerous flag to set, since it does not guar- > antee that the file system structure on the disk will > remain consistent. For this reason, the async flag > should be used sparingly, and only when some data recov- > ery mechanism is present. > > > The OpenBSD man page has the following additional remark: > > The most common use of this flag is to speed up > restore(8) where it can give a factor of two speed in- > crease. > > Conclusion: you cannot compare filesystem performance, when you give > one a unfair speed advantage of what could be a factor two. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you are of course entirely correct, however one of the goals of more modern file systems eg ext4 is to make async safe to use, because of this speed up. At the end of the day faster is faster simple as. Having said that it would be nice to see a gjournaled ufs system for comparison, as well as zfs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 10:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921171065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211938FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so553618fxm.3 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:37:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7waHIBPfob/jm+T6VHu4k8nFi3aKFx6oIjNvZAkmC58=; b=I8cAD8bl87KuI1sV7o+JOVyGqHW5gqoMGcoRR95ge9stgGzzCs7qhyaee4K5751PyA 6fXPhYq7hzBNuflSc2JC6z7OWZGK/QVxfbxhQ5Z7QLMVJYWeuNOFVmsgOn41GQ0SwNIM fiKVGqbLOeg95Ubqj6rgNcl+qx99FmeIwJr2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YyFMkZPh8Xx0uqLJO2dqU8IIk+9YuX10prJ6+6dxTNiHNd4+fnCYQBM94qP/QETM+0 LN52mwgsjnvi4F1EYoUJeCq5dO54v0g8uawy1P0qu+kd6W2k7Qr6EGdapZQSdOR6IsC4 DnAEl9ZxSoGAqfOt8eqHVeOQh4bbvYjRLrXgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.191.194 with SMTP id c2mr833015hbi.57.1265711878367; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:37:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <201002080224.01343.pieter@degoeje.nl> <4B6F970F.3060909@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <19861fba1002081754v63905bbjff660fe612b195e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:37:58 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: J65nko , alex , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:38:00 -0000 For what is worth these are the results on my Lenovo Thinkpad T500 with zfs= . http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=3Dprofile&u=3Dthuglife-5875-16786-= 4629 > dmesg | grep ada0 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO size 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 238475MB (488397168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) zfs prefetch off zfs checksum on | fletcher4 zfs compression on | lzjb vfs.zfs.arc_min=3D"64M" vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D"512M" stock ufs FBSD http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Darticle&item=3Dlinux_bsd_opensolari= s&num=3D6 Apples and oranges, I know, the point is I don=92t feel that the IO performance is lagging on my laptop. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM, krad wrote: > On 9 February 2010 01:54, J65nko wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, alex wrote= : >> >> >> > I do suspect personally that the ext4 filesystem is the reason for the >> > difference here, since ext4 has a number of features such as deferred >> disk >> > writes etc. Even deleting a large file off that raid array I can see a >> > difference, prior to reformatting, i deleted a 190GB file off the raid= , >> > under UFS the delete took quite some time (well over 10 seconds), unde= r >> ext4 >> > the deletion of the same size file took about 3 seconds. >> > >> > But what I said with ext4 being faster then the aging UFS still rings >> true >> > in my mind, look at the recent Phoronix benchmarks for yourself and se= e >> (10 >> > pages of benchmarks). >> > >> > >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Darticle&item=3Dfreebsd8_benchmar= ks&num=3D1 >> > (skip to page 7 of the benchmarks if you want to see the I/O stuff >> relating >> > to disk performance) >> >> According to the first page they used the default configuration of all >> benchmarked OS'es. >> And what is the default mount option on Linux "async" >> >> The FreeBSD man page for mount describes this "async" option as follows: >> >> async =A0 All I/O to the file system should be done asynchronously. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This is a dangerous flag to set, since it does not guar- >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0antee that the file system structure on the disk will >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0remain consistent. =A0For this reason, the async flag >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0should be used sparingly, and only when some data recov- >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ery mechanism is present. >> >> >> The OpenBSD man page has the following additional remark: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The most common use of this flag is to speed up >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0restore(8) where it can give a factor of two speed in- >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0crease. >> >> Conclusion: you cannot compare filesystem performance, when you give >> one a unfair speed advantage of what could be a factor two. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > you are of course entirely correct, however one of the goals of more mode= rn > file systems eg ext4 is to make async safe to use, because of this speed = up. > At the end of the day faster is faster simple as. Having said that it wou= ld > be nice to see a gjournaled ufs system for comparison, as well as zfs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 10:51:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDCA1065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CA08FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o19Ap9Yi018837 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 02:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o19Ap9OB018836; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 02:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA28772; Tue, 9 Feb 10 02:41:04 PST Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:38:22 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org Message-Id: <4b713b1e.iNWKGRt3uf/o0KCJ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:51:21 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of > math symbols and arrange them on-screen ... pre-drawn symbols that > could be moused around? If not for the WYSIWYG requirement I'd suggest some variant of TeX. Based entirely on reputation, I'd think PowerPoint could do this fairly easily, provided the symbols you need are in one of the installed fonts. Have you tried the corresponding OpenOffice tool? (I think it may be called "present" or some such.) If I were going to do something like this, and didn't want to take time to learn a new tool, I'd try using Visio -- one of only two apps which I've found useful enough to get me to voluntarily put up with Windoze. Dunno (yet) how well it will run under wine; this is one of several things I intend to try if I can ever find the time to get a newer FreeBSD system set up. (Wine is reputed to not work at all well on 6.1.) Ports/graphics/dia is somewhat similar to Visio, I think more limited, but perhaps sufficient depending on just what you need to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 12:12:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4866410656A5 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Received: from host.omnilan.net (host.omnilan.net [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83918FC33 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by host.omnilan.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o19CCLTK043814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:12:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Message-ID: <4B715125.8070809@omnilan.de> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:12:21 +0100 From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090906) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB4BB7E910E5D4D5BD007D7D5" Subject: MTU, fragmentation and Jumbo Frames question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:12:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB4BB7E910E5D4D5BD007D7D5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have 3 machines connected to an JumboFrame enabled switch. One FreeBSD 8-stable and two windows machines. I can send echo requests with payload of 8972 between the windows=20 machines, but I don't get an answer from the FreeBSD machine. At the=20 edge of 8130 bytes, the FreeBSD machine eats the packets without any=20 error notification. A payload <=3D 8130 bytes works! All MTUs are set to 9000, interfaces are all intel em. Like mentioned, the ping between the two windows machines work like=20 expected, beyond 8972 bytes payload the OS is fragmenting (resp. tells=20 me that DF bit was set but fragmentation was needed) FreeBSD seems to never fragment packets, since I don't get an answer if=20 I define payload greater than MTU. But this should work, shouldn't it=20 (`ping -s 10000 host`) Does anybody have any explanation why pings are working up to 8130 bytes = payload and are silently droped beyond that even my MTU ist set to 9000=20 (and route get confirms the MTU 9000)? Thanks for any help, -Harry --------------enigB4BB7E910E5D4D5BD007D7D5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktxUSUACgkQLDqVQ9VXb8gvMgCcC52QIP/ENPX4phXazLXtQscO dWwAoIT72cbbxHFw61rvGnZmu3JhRlWt =KNRY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB4BB7E910E5D4D5BD007D7D5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 12:23:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531C0106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59FA8FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so2175097wwj.13 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:23:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HQ1GV8M/yXu2cibZGf+ijlclA5QBiX4ZSHArQfGswsk=; b=x2k3kaGjWjtPYMHrjgM/trU+Vxpz94JFI1ZfuOaqpqUo7H/FKsSAaqBXNE1HGjB7/y mQdtACuEtDJXdin1so13g5YIwSFbReHovcWPb+wpWcc6G8KfJRND3Dtm79E5M97URy1j TmbKXLbY9nXQfUD9ix8W4/qM2albspSP32nfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QNC2KWw3woWIEunf78MbZkvrEROmB5/GE04ktZAi2ujGjwgsx6L5nOt4t/WuZleOFx FpEEhUm4xWWzZXoaUj3roapUXL6LoKSAYP1UI907B1hrJAmB0KwzRzXep6llbEu2g4IV 8vxvEihB3Y3buWfZ2soMKsxVNA77SGp+rGpkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.195 with SMTP id w45mr1344874wee.82.1265718188637; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:23:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:23:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:23:10 -0000 > Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch >of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking >about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can >describe things in english like "sqrt(2)" in OOo, and have that sq >root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols >that could be moused around, editors/abiword with deskutils/gucharmap? graphics/xfig or graphics/gimp with some math symbol images like those at: http://us.metamath.org/symbols/symbols.html? The drag-and-drop requirement is a bit limiting. If OpenOffice doesn't meet your needs (are you sure the drawing or presentation components won't work for you?), and you have the time, you might be better off learning TeX and using something like editors/texmacs or print/lyx15, which are WYSIWYG, or nearly so. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 10:24:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0461106566C; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello084113233101.13.14.vie.surfer.at [84.113.233.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2925E8FC0C; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zev.home.callooh.com (zev.home.callooh.com [192.168.1.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.callooh.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19A0aRm022344; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:00:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:00:21 +0100 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20100209110021.599bddab@zev.home.callooh.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-DCC-URT-Metrics: lyekka.home.callooh.com 1060; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.callooh.com [192.168.1.1]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:00:36 +0100 (CET) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:46:42 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net/samba34: after upgrade from samba33 -> samba34 no client can connect to samba34-server anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:24:47 -0000 Am Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:43:12 +0000 schrieb "O. Hartmann" : > I have no idea what's going wrong. The authentication is done via > LDAP. Using samab33 works without problem. did you use "smbpasswd -w ..." to store the ldap password? i realized that this is a necessary step when upgrading from samba 33 to samba 34 (when using ldapsam as passdb backend) best regards, =A8reinhard --=20 Washington [D.C.] is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm. -- John F. Kennedy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 12:55:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94901065672 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.a.zhuravlev@cbtnet.ru) Received: from mx2.cbtnet.ru (mail.cbtnet.ru [188.128.41.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712988FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ilya.ispsystem.net (unknown [82.146.37.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.cbtnet.ru (Eserv/3.4126) with ESMTP id DDDE3175C1E; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:25:37 +0800 (IRKT) Message-ID: <4B7153A3.3000002@cbtnet.ru> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:22:59 +0800 From: Ilya Zhuravlev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091216 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harald Schmalzbauer References: <4B715125.8070809@omnilan.de> In-Reply-To: <4B715125.8070809@omnilan.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTU, fragmentation and Jumbo Frames question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:55:24 -0000 On 09.02.2010 20:12, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Hello all, > > I have 3 machines connected to an JumboFrame enabled switch. > One FreeBSD 8-stable and two windows machines. > I can send echo requests with payload of 8972 between the windows > machines, but I don't get an answer from the FreeBSD machine. At the > edge of 8130 bytes, the FreeBSD machine eats the packets without any > error notification. A payload <= 8130 bytes works! > All MTUs are set to 9000, interfaces are all intel em. > Like mentioned, the ping between the two windows machines work like > expected, beyond 8972 bytes payload the OS is fragmenting (resp. tells > me that DF bit was set but fragmentation was needed) > FreeBSD seems to never fragment packets, since I don't get an answer if > I define payload greater than MTU. But this should work, shouldn't it > (`ping -s 10000 host`) > > Does anybody have any explanation why pings are working up to 8130 bytes > payload and are silently droped beyond that even my MTU ist set to 9000 > (and route get confirms the MTU 9000)? kern/143285 but "ifconfig em0 -rxcsum" is enough for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 12:55:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C58106568D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111D98FC28 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B5561C0847 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:55:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B715B57.2000101@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:55:51 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: How to run cron scripts (310.locate) in chrooted env. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:55:54 -0000 Hi: I have a setup with diskless clients mounting /var/diskless/FreeBSD read-only as root file system. How do I configure cron/locate.rc to run on the server such that the locate database is relative to the root for the diskless systems? I could do a chroot and run it within this environment, at least it would work manually. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 13:14:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D582A106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Received: from host.omnilan.net (host.omnilan.net [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A678FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by host.omnilan.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o19DCleH044688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:12:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Message-ID: <4B715F4F.4030401@omnilan.de> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:12:47 +0100 From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090906) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilya Zhuravlev References: <4B715125.8070809@omnilan.de> <4B7153A3.3000002@cbtnet.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B7153A3.3000002@cbtnet.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig93B013FAA4CF5CEAD811FAF6" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTU, fragmentation and Jumbo Frames question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:14:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig93B013FAA4CF5CEAD811FAF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ilya Zhuravlev schrieb am 09.02.2010 13:22 (localtime): > On 09.02.2010 20:12, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I have 3 machines connected to an JumboFrame enabled switch. >> One FreeBSD 8-stable and two windows machines. >> I can send echo requests with payload of 8972 between the windows >> machines, but I don't get an answer from the FreeBSD machine. At the >> edge of 8130 bytes, the FreeBSD machine eats the packets without any >> error notification. A payload <=3D 8130 bytes works! >> All MTUs are set to 9000, interfaces are all intel em. >> Like mentioned, the ping between the two windows machines work like >> expected, beyond 8972 bytes payload the OS is fragmenting (resp. tells= >> me that DF bit was set but fragmentation was needed) >> FreeBSD seems to never fragment packets, since I don't get an answer i= f >> I define payload greater than MTU. But this should work, shouldn't it >> (`ping -s 10000 host`) >> >> Does anybody have any explanation why pings are working up to 8130 byt= es >> payload and are silently droped beyond that even my MTU ist set to 900= 0 >> (and route get confirms the MTU 9000)? >=20 > kern/143285 > but "ifconfig em0 -rxcsum" is enough for me. Thanks, but disabling any sum offloading doesn't change anything. Still, I wonder why FreeBSD doesn't fragment packets if they're too large= =2E Thanks, -Harry --------------enig93B013FAA4CF5CEAD811FAF6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktxX08ACgkQLDqVQ9VXb8iL1QCfQn2JsFyIagKXkCgpHdbx0uT0 Ge4AoLZJuwo4YJQqngaeKxo5hViD2Fud =OO5W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig93B013FAA4CF5CEAD811FAF6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 13:33:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8DE106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aubreyja@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DAC8FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so4564269ewy.13 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:33:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0wWMSCIN8VmJSjlQ+YznA6YQ8mAW/iTiRfx+4sL/lCE=; b=KDVWhhuL4CYGFaOqHTohF+BCwpoL7ChnIiRKaxwGt9GVQ3lHbRf1uS7hSeLNfzu4vf m58ijy0TeaNA+ksZ90iQwg3LeaMEPZ/0bAJKL9/WIo2TAV7Ir4utCvi30JQ6Qy+xxil2 J3NWM9zbyTLvXbDRPg54LNRDIetmd6gfmNxkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SBvv6E3ALlwbF8h69/YpHvALTKElzVzXmqpO2+ts0b4YypY8mI6iaUranzt6aPN6gc Bd7VRCfVDNG3SUJ4n2exxP8A9edGICJBn8gwBEiyQZofKVBlf+URZ3tQItXHxM3YU9w4 ZXuh3FulLFSQOKG9R5GDUUJNFe3qde3i6rQ78= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.100.7 with SMTP id w7mr886107ebn.23.1265721091139; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:11:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jason Aubrey Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:11:11 -0600 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:33:28 -0000 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, b. f. wrote: >> Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch >>of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? =A0I'm not talking >>about a program to solve; just display. =A0And i think you can >>describe things in english like "sqrt(2)" in OOo, and have that sq >>root sign displayed. =A0Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols >>that could be moused around, > Can I ask why you want to do this? That might help point to a suitable solution. =A0With a little work you might be able to build something like this with jsMath or MathML. =A0Here's info about jsMath: http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 14:59:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA291065692 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EE38FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o19Ex7362742 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:59:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:59:07 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209085907.A62092@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Migrating from ipfw and natd to pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:59:09 -0000 Is there a good guide somewhere for migrating from ipfw and natd rules to pf? I had pretty much gotten used to ipfw, and now pf seems very different to use and understand. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 15:31:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9ECD106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448238FC1C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so848331fxm.3 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:31:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LZJKYSDHM6n4isP3/T0DFjzZHSG34cYCXMZIEjsJh04=; b=BrFh9q7vRLDZowA6+JUKbWAYeRh0vRIJrcYt/8giE9tTMZsgY/QqhEmACxN5ScHpfH ytHt9qubTY3Re2LI7hElbZDnY0BQ4/O7RqQEia7VenqFlQYAjEAh8DKrKlxNZBfv4zEO u4Q/U+Tz0Pz97DFZalO5u2paQzU6FaN+Ow3Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wJnG42zBXxV10ElgSUNYmDsbsoNn1cR/46ze9aFmIEF1egNm/wd+Z7JryE5c+DVnEP K54rDG7L27H48Nu6KINNXc4IiJ400k7hHjChkQxKuuRiI3qLujIz4gbo6s6AN/8TCO3s CXJfM7/auSPH+fJP0otIoT5gXrfPuw+FTna+k= Received: by 10.216.88.139 with SMTP id a11mr1951316wef.50.1265729497903; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm662127gve.15.2010.02.09.07.31.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:31:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:31:34 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209153134.304a10bc@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100209085907.A62092@starfire.mn.org> References: <20100209085907.A62092@starfire.mn.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Migrating from ipfw and natd to pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:31:39 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:59:07 -0600 John wrote: > Is there a good guide somewhere for migrating from ipfw and natd rules > to pf? I had pretty much gotten used to ipfw, and now pf seems very > different to use and understand. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 15:38:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28BA106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B08FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19Fc63Z007151; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:38:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o19Fc6uS007148; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:38:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:38:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4b713b1e.iNWKGRt3uf/o0KCJ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> <4b713b1e.iNWKGRt3uf/o0KCJ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:38:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:38:07 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >> Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of >> math symbols and arrange them on-screen ... pre-drawn symbols that >> could be moused around? > > If not for the WYSIWYG requirement I'd suggest some variant of TeX. > > Based entirely on reputation, I'd think PowerPoint could do this > fairly easily, provided the symbols you need are in one of the > installed fonts. Have you tried the corresponding OpenOffice tool? > (I think it may be called "present" or some such.) OOo "Math". -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 15:59:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325AD1065744 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD42D8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4314 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2010 15:59:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=WJdho1LMWzqv8W+t/F167VzKTSj/CCFzhqsdhIQ933qjbwylhIx7kQ3tByV+l92NBY02Noqz3TWXgieiF3AKMQLvI+leH18PNq45bMtuPIOPIuu5uwzbTfc0nSVjDZyT+6vNsIMnUf3zbXF2wv7etK7VjbVUrQoANtNavk5DcOA= ; Received: from CPE0018027b43e0-CM0014e88f61fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (mike.jeays@99.224.61.141 with plain) by smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Feb 2010 07:59:28 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- X-YMail-OSG: lH9aDpQVM1m4fmURZCXwoT.zF7nMVLX5u2BmrHi.LSWd0esMUdjLHF4oyvEOBO__rQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:59:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.28-15-generic; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> In-Reply-To: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:59:30 -0000 On February 8, 2010 01:53:22 pm Eric Petersen wrote: > Hey guys, > > I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple > of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original > install have gone out of business and cannot be found. > > Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up > to the server and I'm getting "filesystem full" errors and since I > don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone > that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person > that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he > has moved with no forwarding. > > I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't > know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like > it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. > > Thank you for your time and have a great day. > > -- > Eric Petersen > Pre-Press Technician > Anderson Brothers Printing Company > 4525 41st Street > Sioux City, Iowa 51108 > phone: 712.239.5555 > fax: 712.239.3322 > e-mail: ericp@andersonbrothers.biz > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:11:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FED1065676 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0548FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42F1EB47E3; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980EF160D5D; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:21 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ldhp6DLDx8BJ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (athedsl-417342.home.otenet.gr [79.131.182.60]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E113160CFD; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19GBJdR065598 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o19GBJFo065593; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:11:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:11:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> (Chad Perrin's message of "Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700") Message-ID: <87hbpqz8wp.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:11:23 -0000 --=-=-= On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >> >> AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for >> ports you'll install a compiler from ports. > > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard > that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. There are no concrete plans to ditch gcc from the base system. The GPLv3 license of GCC and binutils does pose a few interesting problems. On the other hand, Clang is a nice project, whose license *is* compatible with a BSD-style license. Several FreeBSD developers have tried building the base system with it and are active at the development forums of Clang. So it's probably a safe assumption to make that Clang is not ready *yet*, but may be an interesting alternative to GCC in the near future. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAktxiScACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7bCRACfeOM5YQxV8BuSz4WbZFULJVVU rx0An1kKhg93hqEH0fGK1Wv3PgfWGzZQ =SB3H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:15:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D44106566B; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D979A8FC21; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nesk5-0001CQ-SS; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:15:14 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nesk5-0005w2-OZ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:15:13 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19GFDNZ091781; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:15:13 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o19GFDHE091780; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:15:13 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:15:13 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, gecko@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: firefox3.6 dumps core - bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:15:16 -0000 On 9.0-current ia64, firefox-3.6,1: TZAV> firefox3 & [6] 91741 TZAV> Bus error (core dumped) [6] Exit 138 firefox3 TZAV> gdb /usr/local/bin/firefox3 ./firefox-bin.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "ia64-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/bin/firefox3": not in executable format: File format not recognized Core was generated by `firefox-bin'. Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () #1 0x20000000412e20c0 in ?? () Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) (gdb) Please advise anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:22:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083A6106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03F48FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G173 G174 G175 G176 G180 G181 G192 G279 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 23195373; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:22:05 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:22:00 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Peter Steele , Pieter de Goeje , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:21:59 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? Thread-Index: AcqoXvsilpAc2Jr/RcGrpUI3DrXDZgAEpZlgAB0MVWA= Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2B9B@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B24D6@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B2501@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B255E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <201002080233.59464.pieter@degoeje.nl> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B258A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B258A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: What is easiest way to build a BSD 8 binary on a BSD 7 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:22:03 -0000 >I suspect I know the problem. The tool I'm building links with a bunch of = other libraries we've developed, which I didn't write. I only modified the = makefile of my >own code. I'm going to have to tweak the makefiles of a dozen different li= brary modules. Unfortunately the problem isn't quite as simple as using sysroot. The probl= em with sysroot is symbolic links. Unlike chroot which makes everything ref= erence the new root, including absolute paths, sysroot only does one level = of redirection. So for example if my BSD8 root is located under /repo/bsd8,= I can point sysroot there but libkvm doesn't link because of this: $ ll /repo/bsd8/usr/lib/libkvm* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 59630 Feb 7 14:43 /repo/bsd/bsd8/usr/lib/libkvm= .a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Feb 9 07:26 /repo/bsd8/usr/lib/libkvm.so = -> /lib/libkvm.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 61352 Feb 7 14:43 /repo/bsd/bsd8/usr/lib/libkvm= _p.a The link points to a non-existent library outside of the BSD 8 tree (libkvm= is libkvm.so.4 under BSD 7). There are several libraries that fall victim = to this symbolic link issue that breaks the sysroot option. I've tried copy= ing the linked BSD 8 libraries to the /lib directory under my BSD 7 system = and solves the symbolic link problem, but now I'm getting an undefined symb= ol.=20 It might make more sense to use chroot to do this, although that has compli= cations of its own in that I need to install more packages into my BSD8 rep= ository... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:30:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47011065744; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0B68FC16; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:30:09 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKMbcUuDaFvG/2dsb2JhbADaV4RUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,437,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="64798280" Received: from amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.91.198]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 11:30:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664B32101A0; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:30:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca Received: from amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6fwn95C3UoX3; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.102]) by amazon.cs.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651DE21019D; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmacklem@localhost) by muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o19GfPW19098; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:41:25 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca: rmacklem owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:41:25 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem X-X-Sender: rmacklem@muncher.cs.uoguelph.ca To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4B712B54.4020000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4B6FE550.9020506@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B70497B.1000908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4B712B54.4020000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFSv4: mount -t nsf4 not the same as mount_newnfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:30:10 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, O. Hartmann wrote: > Well, I guess I havn't uderstood everything of NFSv4. The 'concept' of the > 'root' is new to me, maybe there are some deeper explanation of the purpose? > Are there supposed to be more than one 'root' enries or only one? > Only to specify different security flavours for different client host IP#s. There is only one "root" location in the file system tree. This was done for NFSv4 to avoid any need for the mount protocol. See below. > At this very moment mounting seems to work, but I always get a 'permission > denied' error on every ZFS exported filesystem. Doing the same with UFS2 > filesystems, everything works as expected. > In NFSv4 "mount" does very little, since it does not use the mount protocol. It basically passes a "pathname" from the NFSv4 "root" into the kernel for later use. (Since UFS doesn't actually check exports, the experimental server checks them, but "cheats" and allows a minimal set of NFSv4 Operations on non-exported volumes, so that this "pathname" can be traversed to the exported volume. At this time ZFS checks exports. As such everything in the tree from the "root" specified by the "V4:" line must be exported for ZFS to work. I believe others have gotten a ZFS export to work, but I have no experience with it at this time. > Is there a way to inspect the exports and mounts for the used NFS-protocol? Not that I am aware. (Excluding ZFS, which I don't know anything about, the /etc/exports file specifies the exports.) > When issuing 'mount', the 'backup' mount is repoted to be 'newnfs', I assume > this reflects NFSv4 being used, now I need to figure out what's going wrong > with the ZFS export. NFS export of the ZFS filesystem is enabled, but as far > as I know, this feature is not used in FreeBSD since ZFS in FreeBSD lacks of > the capabilities of autonomously exporting its via NFS - well, I'm not an > expert in this matter. > I'm definitely not a ZFS expert either:-) I think the mount command is showing you that the mount point was created ("newnfs" refers to the experimental client), but as noted above, that doesn't indicate that it is accessible. (If you haven't tried moving the "V4: /backup ..." that moves the NFSv4 "root" to /backup, you should do that and see how it goes.) Good luck with it, rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:32:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC69610656A4 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7F38FC26 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 11:32:12 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QMJ10729; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 11:32:07 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:32:05 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: documentation about enabling IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:32:13 -0000 Can someone affirmatively verify that this part (30.6.1) of the Handbook is correct? Particularly the last sentence. Quote: IPFW is included in the basic FreeBSD install as a separate run time loadable module. The system will dynamically load the kernel module when the rc.conf statement firewall_enable="YES" is used. There is no need to compile IPFW into the FreeBSD kernel unless NAT functionality is desired. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:37:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8655610656A7 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EF648FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 36488 invoked by uid 89); 9 Feb 2010 16:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2010 16:39:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:36:58 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation about enabling IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:37:02 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Can someone affirmatively verify that this part (30.6.1) of the > Handbook is correct? Particularly the last sentence. > Quote: > > IPFW is included in the basic FreeBSD install as a > separate run time loadable module. The system will > dynamically load the kernel module when the rc.conf > statement firewall_enable="YES" is used. There is no need > to compile IPFW into the FreeBSD kernel unless NAT > functionality is desired. Yes, it is correct. You can also load during runtime: # kldload ipfw.ko Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 16:54:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79C51065676 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 420908FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Feb 2010 16:53:40 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 09 Feb 2010 17:53:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XTzp6A9UXNy7eTpL0D0zfaH5pgZ4tAtz7wJY1In XUTDZ3h10n8u6+ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:53:39 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100209175339.18d2d289.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: q+q_R4e*MWOR3888mPIAZc/FNaS!=`.[B6uaBUuT)S0@80[:sij*]j?Vo57(D|Gt-kv8h\y M~EX/qT%sIl^Z(x'h(r}f%$KLA[ZBIpzr{$|9w!e9]>isP8uu-A6k:}[)={{B}(@}*lOADil'U|daw xlj24v2,"<%CX2@vhLl+yo_u.K Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73999999999999999 Subject: No floppy-images for FreeBSD 8.0 installation anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:54:05 -0000 Hi Daemons, I use to install FreeBSD with the floppies, then choosing the ftp-install. It was quite a while ago I had done so -- but now I see the xxxxx.flp images are gone. Or maybe I just havent found them on the ftp-site?? I cannot boot this computer from the SCSI-CD drives. Is there any chance to get 8.0 for floppies? Thank you herb langhans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:12:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F091065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A08FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LKF96897; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:12:40 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19313.38790.856415.592932@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:12:38 -0500 To: herbert langhans In-Reply-To: <20100209175339.18d2d289.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> References: <20100209175339.18d2d289.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: No floppy-images for FreeBSD 8.0 installation anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:12:42 -0000 herbert langhans writes: > I cannot boot this computer from the SCSI-CD drives. Is there any > chance to get 8.0 for floppies? I do not believe there are (by default) floppies for 8.0; whether this is new for this release of not I cannot say. Is the machine modern enough it could boot from a USB-connected CDROM? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6EE1065676 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2518FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D21D20596B9; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id m1yE2+DOZyCk; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8A20487A1; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD6368CB54EE; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 393ChEL454u5; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id CD6BF68CB54E2; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:15:26 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: "freebsd@celestial.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20100209171526.GA5812@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd@celestial.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <133967.39832.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <133967.39832.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:15:28 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote: >hi, >i also choose poptop and pptp but i'm still getting errors while >connecting, would you be so kind to send me some configuration files? The attached configuration files, options.pptpd and pptpd.conf are the ones I'm using. note that the paths for various files and executables may look a bit strange as these are built in an OpenPKG portable packagement system package based in /csrel26. There are pretty vanilla with only the localip and remoteip set to addresses on our internal LAN. The options.pptpd file requests modules which are probably Linux specific and will require changes for freebsd. The chap-secrets file goes in /etc/ppp or wherever the system expects to find it. There are more sophisticated ways to handle this, but for small systems, I like KISS. One line per client login with their login name and password. I have forgotten most of what I once knew about PPP configuration when we were setting up regional ISPs with lots of dialup connections (and we used Bay/Nortel Annex servers which handled most of this with their own configurations). We use OpenVPN for most of our VPN connections which I find much easier to handle. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees. -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:16:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4062106568F for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677748FC2E for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19HFxBu047958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:16:00 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o19HFxBu047958 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265735760; bh=W47ZMWxzyJJnOpZWOiJkusXkggJICiZI2Bj9j6JYQSo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2009=20Feb=202010=2017:15:59=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Steve=20Bertrand=20|CC:=20Robert=20Huff=20,=20questio ns@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20documentation=20about=20enabling=2 0IPFW|References:=20<19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratu s.org>=20<4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B718F2A.80 60801@ibctech.ca>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/p lain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=UeMSm3bTnUqpKwKgo+BjDunnUpdTvhhU8FtivIDhrtOKbMfV7wCkT1GunxJFXite8 PPndJA+SsDXbRq2EklgmxL8w14mJkvcfF57deqr3ls/k1CvF6/GqaADNXwzUycK85j 07lLXV+ShcnAyKD3ob+fjmLVqUeGo3zkHhSN/o2I= Message-ID: <4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:15:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation about enabling IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/02/2010 16:36, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: >> Can someone affirmatively verify that this part (30.6.1) of the >> Handbook is correct? Particularly the last sentence. >> Quote: >> >> IPFW is included in the basic FreeBSD install as a >> separate run time loadable module. The system will >> dynamically load the kernel module when the rc.conf >> statement firewall_enable="YES" is used. There is no need >> to compile IPFW into the FreeBSD kernel unless NAT >> functionality is desired. > > Yes, it is correct. > > You can also load during runtime: > > # kldload ipfw.ko That' not really the issue with what the quoted paragraph says. Enabling ipfw functionality by loading a kernel module is not under contention. The question is about ipfw+NAT. That paragraph says you have to compile ipfw into the kernel to use ipfw+NAT, however on a RELENG_8 system (at least) there's a loadable ipfw_nat.ko module. Which very much implies you *don't* need to compile ipfw into the kernel for ipfw+NAT nowadays. I think that last part is out of date for recent releases where 'kernel nat' is supported, but I'd ask again on freebsd-ipfw@ or freebsd-net@ to be certain. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktxmE8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxQpQCfdkppTJqzhQyO6GkogHZtj+Yb SfAAn1xAMKrRBWtC3ma/B3kylPlkOUjH =ydlB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:17:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34121065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFD58FC24 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEA720596B8; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dTiknqcdVhhE; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBC720487A1; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFCD68CB54EE; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mCe+8uTkJw9z; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 38EDA68CB54E2; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:17:47 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: "freebsd@celestial.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20100209171747.GA12162@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd@celestial.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <133967.39832.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100209171526.GA5812@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100209171526.GA5812@ayn.mi.celestial.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:17:50 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Feb 09, 2010, Bill Campbell wrote: >On Mon, Feb 08, 2010, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote: >>hi, > >>i also choose poptop and pptp but i'm still getting errors while >>connecting, would you be so kind to send me some configuration files? > >The attached configuration files, options.pptpd and pptpd.conf >are the ones I'm using. Whoops, early morning brain fart. The files are attached. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state. -- Isabel Paterson, God of the Machine --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="options.pptpd" ############################################################################### # $Id: options.pptpd,v 1.11 2005/12/29 01:21:09 quozl Exp $ # # Sample Poptop PPP options file /csrel26/etc/pptpd/options.pptpd # Options used by PPP when a connection arrives from a client. # This file is pointed to by /etc/pptpd.conf option keyword. # Changes are effective on the next connection. See "man pppd". # # You are expected to change this file to suit your system. As # packaged, it requires PPP 2.4.2 and the kernel MPPE module. ############################################################################### # Authentication # Name of the local system for authentication purposes # (must match the second field in /csrel26/etc/pptpd/chap-secrets entries) name pptpd # Strip the domain prefix from the username before authentication. # (applies if you use pppd with chapms-strip-domain patch) #chapms-strip-domain # Encryption # (There have been multiple versions of PPP with encryption support, # choose with of the following sections you will use.) # BSD licensed ppp-2.4.2 upstream with MPPE only, kernel module ppp_mppe.o # {{{ refuse-pap refuse-chap refuse-mschap # Require the peer to authenticate itself using MS-CHAPv2 [Microsoft # Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol, Version 2] authentication. require-mschap-v2 # Require MPPE 128-bit encryption # (note that MPPE requires the use of MSCHAP-V2 during authentication) require-mppe-128 # }}} # OpenSSL licensed ppp-2.4.1 fork with MPPE only, kernel module mppe.o # {{{ #-chap #-chapms # Require the peer to authenticate itself using MS-CHAPv2 [Microsoft # Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol, Version 2] authentication. #+chapms-v2 # Require MPPE encryption # (note that MPPE requires the use of MSCHAP-V2 during authentication) #mppe-40 # enable either 40-bit or 128-bit, not both #mppe-128 #mppe-stateless # }}} # Network and Routing # If pppd is acting as a server for Microsoft Windows clients, this # option allows pppd to supply one or two DNS (Domain Name Server) # addresses to the clients. The first instance of this option # specifies the primary DNS address; the second instance (if given) # specifies the secondary DNS address. #ms-dns 10.0.0.1 #ms-dns 10.0.0.2 # If pppd is acting as a server for Microsoft Windows or "Samba" # clients, this option allows pppd to supply one or two WINS (Windows # Internet Name Services) server addresses to the clients. The first # instance of this option specifies the primary WINS address; the # second instance (if given) specifies the secondary WINS address. #ms-wins 10.0.0.3 #ms-wins 10.0.0.4 # Add an entry to this system's ARP [Address Resolution Protocol] # table with the IP address of the peer and the Ethernet address of this # system. This will have the effect of making the peer appear to other # systems to be on the local ethernet. # (you do not need this if your PPTP server is responsible for routing # packets to the clients -- James Cameron) proxyarp # Normally pptpd passes the IP address to pppd, but if pptpd has been # given the delegate option in pptpd.conf or the --delegate command line # option, then pppd will use chap-secrets or radius to allocate the # client IP address. The default local IP address used at the server # end is often the same as the address of the server. To override this, # specify the local IP address here. # (you must not use this unless you have used the delegate option) #10.8.0.100 # Logging # Enable connection debugging facilities. # (see your syslog configuration for where pppd sends to) #debug # Print out all the option values which have been set. # (often requested by mailing list to verify options) #dump # Miscellaneous # Create a UUCP-style lock file for the pseudo-tty to ensure exclusive # access. lock # Disable BSD-Compress compression nobsdcomp # Disable Van Jacobson compression # (needed on some networks with Windows 9x/ME/XP clients, see posting to # poptop-server on 14th April 2005 by Pawel Pokrywka and followups, # http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=111343175400006&r=1&w=2 ) novj novjccomp # turn off logging to stderr, since this may be redirected to pptpd, # which may trigger a loopback nologfd # put plugins here # (putting them higher up may cause them to sent messages to the pty) --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pptpd.conf" ############################################################################### # $Id: pptpd.conf,v 1.10 2006/09/04 23:30:57 quozl Exp $ # # Sample Poptop configuration file /etc/pptpd.conf # # Changes are effective when pptpd is restarted. ############################################################################### # TAG: ppp # Path to the pppd program, default '/csrel26/sbin/pppd' on Linux # #ppp /csrel26/sbin/pppd # TAG: option # Specifies the location of the PPP options file. # By default PPP looks in '/csrel26/etc/pptpd/options' # option /csrel26/etc/pptpd/options.pptpd # TAG: debug # Turns on (more) debugging to syslog # #debug # TAG: stimeout # Specifies timeout (in seconds) on starting ctrl connection # # stimeout 10 # TAG: noipparam # Suppress the passing of the client's IP address to PPP, which is # done by default otherwise. # #noipparam # TAG: logwtmp # Use wtmp(5) to record client connections and disconnections. # # logwtmp # TAG: bcrelay # Turns on broadcast relay to clients from interface # #bcrelay eth1 # TAG: delegate # Delegates the allocation of client IP addresses to pppd. # # Without this option, which is the default, pptpd manages the list of # IP addresses for clients and passes the next free address to pppd. # With this option, pptpd does not pass an address, and so pppd may use # radius or chap-secrets to allocate an address. # #delegate # TAG: connections # Limits the number of client connections that may be accepted. # # If pptpd is allocating IP addresses (e.g. delegate is not # used) then the number of connections is also limited by the # remoteip option. The default is 100. connections 10 # TAG: localip # TAG: remoteip # Specifies the local and remote IP address ranges. # # These options are ignored if delegate option is set. # # Any addresses work as long as the local machine takes care of the # routing. But if you want to use MS-Windows networking, you should # use IP addresses out of the LAN address space and use the proxyarp # option in the pppd options file, or run bcrelay. # # You can specify single IP addresses seperated by commas or you can # specify ranges, or both. For example: # # 192.168.0.234,192.168.0.245-249,192.168.0.254 # # IMPORTANT RESTRICTIONS: # # 1. No spaces are permitted between commas or within addresses. # # 2. If you give more IP addresses than the value of connections, # it will start at the beginning of the list and go until it # gets connections IPs. Others will be ignored. # # 3. No shortcuts in ranges! ie. 234-8 does not mean 234 to 238, # you must type 234-238 if you mean this. # # 4. If you give a single localIP, that's ok - all local IPs will # be set to the given one. You MUST still give at least one remote # IP for each simultaneous client. # # (Recommended) localip 192.168.253.100 remoteip 192.168.253.101-110 # or #localip 192.168.0.234-238,192.168.0.245 #remoteip 192.168.1.234-238,192.168.1.245 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=chap-secrets # Secrets for authentication using CHAP # client server secret IP addresses billipod pptpd mysecret * ####### redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (begin) ########## ####### redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (end) ############ --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:26:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC468106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0738FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LKF99281; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19313.39592.586676.508318@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:26:00 -0500 To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca> <4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Robert Huff , Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: documentation about enabling IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:26:02 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > >> Can someone affirmatively verify that this part (30.6.1) of the > >> Handbook is correct? Particularly the last sentence. > >> Quote: > >> > >> IPFW is included in the basic FreeBSD install as a > >> separate run time loadable module. The system will > >> dynamically load the kernel module when the rc.conf > >> statement firewall_enable="YES" is used. There is no need > >> to compile IPFW into the FreeBSD kernel unless NAT > >> functionality is desired. > > > > Yes, it is correct. > > > > You can also load during runtime: > > > > # kldload ipfw.ko > > That' not really the issue with what the quoted paragraph says. > Enabling ipfw functionality by loading a kernel module is not under > contention. The question is about ipfw+NAT. That paragraph says you > have to compile ipfw into the kernel to use ipfw+NAT, however on a > RELENG_8 system (at least) there's a loadable ipfw_nat.ko module. > Which very much implies you *don't* need to compile ipfw into the > kernel for ipfw+NAT nowadays. Exactly! Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 18:00:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1899F106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F11E8FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1968515bwz.33 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:00:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hXdHhhLTeCs5b5zaqfzL67g5OtMuenf96GDnOrk2nno=; b=c7fmgMzANflZE+XwXbkNBhGLqneStq3vDGrXADhS3IgjtCFShq1FRiYw7uxnsb/KTg YY98PISDMkfAKpe4eDHpZdtbUM2rvYOGzgyQUJzn5IXlKXNR1LSZIQx2BBhlvMew01Vr TFVlosXB1dkFpbuqCUsZ3V7xdyo6DOClLiX28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bZeYlsTW5M9Ds5Un35mfjaSbK1cOdfBCiJhnep0aXJTEQnI2qZ6ELPRpHFyYJOrMJT 0ik/lHaGy6hC+wEp285Vy5ryivAE0H3sx37Ri04VBaEfPp7Wh9vkM6Gol4p/dlZvYpA/ JFsbzz+Le2IorRMlvyuru7B6jGhl9mbsHxMb4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.217 with SMTP id d25mr4511798bkw.24.1265738441474; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:00:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002090341.o193fu5v092928@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201002090341.o193fu5v092928@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:00:41 +0100 Message-ID: <19861fba1002091000k6b6de07el40f020573fb2465@mail.gmail.com> From: J65nko To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall and mfs Great News and another Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:00:45 -0000 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I really hate to give up on anything and I finally found > out my problem with getting sysinstall to use the hard drive > rather than garbaging up mfs every time. The problem is not > something you can set in the partition editor or disklabel > editor. It is found in the very first menu which oddly is > numbered 2 and is the options editor. The option that makes it > all work is one that lets you specify where you want the > distribution to go on the drive. It is always set for you when > using the CDROM unless you were formatting another disk so it is > kind of easy to miss. I missed it for a week and a half. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Now the question. There are a bunch of functions that > can be set in sysinstall such as the bsdlabel editor, partition > editor and dists to name a few. It would be nice to be able to > set that mount point in install.cfg because I am trying to make > a script that coworkers can run to configure a system quickly > without having to waste a week of their own trying to figure it > all out. IMHO it is easier to to install FreeBSD without using sysinstall at all. See the "FreeBSD Install Without Sysinstall" guide at http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1538 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 18:01:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB7F106568D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC49A8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Feb 2010 18:01:21 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 09 Feb 2010 19:01:21 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+y+d9mRFiygXAN5sw7cCbOMwnZPW6b0FLPLnB4gK wHorSozZtK2wym Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:00:51 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20100209180050.GA1486@sandcat> References: <20100209175339.18d2d289.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> <19313.38790.856415.592932@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19313.38790.856415.592932@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.56999999999999995 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No floppy-images for FreeBSD 8.0 installation anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:01:27 -0000 Yes, just checked it. There is a 'boot from usb-cdrom' option in the setup. I guess I have to sacrifice a usb-stick for the installation. Will it work this way? This is not yet updated in the the handbook -- but the 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img seems to be a file I have to dump on the usb-stick. Is this the boot-file I need for the ftp-install? Cheers herbs On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 12:12:38PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > herbert langhans writes: > > > I cannot boot this computer from the SCSI-CD drives. Is there any > > chance to get 8.0 for floppies? > > I do not believe there are (by default) floppies for 8.0; > whether this is new for this release of not I cannot say. > Is the machine modern enough it could boot from a USB-connected > CDROM? > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 18:28:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68534106568F for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB8D8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so2350583wwj.13 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:28:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t/fGdceXQIvs8n3NoeU5ullUvTNBCKyhJGwgTrrCDSY=; b=CLvdIE7pyTLikK07JQjqgJ4O1dA/UR1SKeBDuwonxSHXzgIfXYTBGaaRepOFVa9L9j /DmFkeWziJcrEsvCFHostJskO7rnH7miRc0Gz/HZqTfifenlcMRupgef1FEHv9pfPl9t KFF2fAYDvHovAewZ+WyW2T2MuIvsE2IQvVqgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p+RjOgXLMrFFxvWU6Yx12KOnQB94zIUTFw7PLvqaFqrBG7OWL8QKsECNZBAs4FxjcZ rKaqq+w5a0CNZ9oEAzHSENdnKagCD20U63AzY0UxxjQeH6kZXWgN5CF3XPHx+FqbVLle 3b4v+l4xJyzwAt/nuHXjAOgxAFUaU/J6OLf/Y= Received: by 10.216.87.133 with SMTP id y5mr973910wee.139.1265740126397; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm1159110gve.0.2010.02.09.10.28.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:28:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:28:43 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209182843.10a8ad90@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100209105444.A70035@starfire.mn.org> References: <20100209085907.A62092@starfire.mn.org> <20100209153134.304a10bc@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100209105444.A70035@starfire.mn.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Migrating from ipfw and natd to pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:28:49 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:54:45 -0600 John wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 03:31:34PM +0000, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:59:07 -0600 > > John wrote: > > > > > Is there a good guide somewhere for migrating from ipfw and natd > > > rules to pf? I had pretty much gotten used to ipfw, and now pf > > > seems very different to use and understand. > > > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html Please keep on-topic replies in-list to help people who are searching the list. > OK - I guess it's all in there somewhere! Most of what you need to know is in the Basic Configuration section - it's not much, pf is much easier than ipfw. > I'm confused, though. I > thought "pf" was a part of the regular kernel? But I do not have > a /dev/pf: The kernel module is loaded by the rc.d script if you enable pf in rc.conf, check /etc/defaults/rc.conf for more details. The rc.d script also has a few useful extra options for checking syntax and reloading rules without disrupting connections. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 18:44:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9EF1065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAF88FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.47.0.250] (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19IinmP081560; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: Jason Aubrey In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:44:49 -0800 Message-ID: <1265741089.52769.9.camel@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kline@thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:44:54 -0000 On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 07:11 -0600, Jason Aubrey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, b. f. wrote: > >> Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch > >>of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking > >>about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can > >>describe things in english like "sqrt(2)" in OOo, and have that sq > >>root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols > >>that could be moused around, > > > > Can I ask why you want to do this? That might help point to a suitable > solution. With a little work you might be able to build something > like this with jsMath or MathML. Here's info about jsMath: > > http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/ I was hoping that by now there would be a set of math glyphs that could be dragged and dropped around a screen--possibly firefox, possibly OOo or abiword--to show a set of equations for any number of purposes. Last years I found that I could create something close with OO "Math", but it required typing by keyboard. D and Drop: nope. There are new Firefox apps that look hopeful. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:11:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C469106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B53C8FC24 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NevUa-0002u4-Gh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:11:24 -0800 Message-ID: <27520457.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:11:24 -0800 (PST) From: regis505 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100209171747.GA12162@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: regis505@gmail.com References: <282EFEAFDE1F402E8ADDD0232F051D8A@desktop2002> <133967.39832.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100209171526.GA5812@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20100209171747.GA12162@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Subject: Re: for vpn connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:11:25 -0000 >The attached configuration files, options.pptpd and pptpd.conf >are the ones I'm using. I used your configuration on 7.2 with some minor adjustments for the path and I get: Warning: Label /etc/ppp/options.pptpd rejected -direct connection: Configuration label not found Any ideas? Reg -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/for-vpn-connection-tp27509800p27520457.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:16:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D13106568B; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD8D8FC22; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19JG6A1060005; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:16:06 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, vbox@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:16:07 -0000 Every time I try to run a VM my whole system hangs. This started after the resent system/ports update. I even force-recompiled all ports that VirtualBox depends on and still have the problem. Anybody is able to run vbox? Yuri virtualbox-ose-3.1.2_1 virtualbox-ose-kmod-3.1.2_1 8.0-STABLE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:27:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9564106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56C8FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB031D8B0; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:27:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o19JR9aV001593; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:27:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:27:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:27:12 -0000 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of > math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a > program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe > things in english like "sqrt(2)" in OOo, and have that sq root sign > displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be > moused around, As you intendedly state that you're not searching for a solution in the field of typesetting - where LaTeX comes to mind immediately - I could imagine that you can do it the hard way. First, see the symbols here: http://web.ift.uib.no/Fysisk/Teori/KURS/TeX/symALL.html Split the images into individual ones, and then use a graphics suite, such as Gimp or OpenOffice Draw, to drag them around the screen and combine a formula from them. Surely, you would be massively faster doing it with LaTeX, but there's no mouse involved. :-) Another idea which I haven't tested or confirmed is to use the xfig program. If it contains a library that contains math symbols (that's the part that needs verification), you can import it and then use its symbols to "draw" a forula with them. Again, LaTeX would be the faster solution. :-) Ah, and a final idea, but that doesn't seem to be adopted well: Use MathML and combine it with HTML and CSS. And as you already have guessed: LaTeX is faster. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:44:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F64106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767148FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so2089046bwz.33 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kB95rzChzAyIQnwN9qbuy5RWCbFnAIBSa87IcsabyHw=; b=urdNkCggDcbQYmK+QRL1gZBOcPtCZTh6O/XGn8bVl9tViGeOIhHQEsmh4Y9VbAz+Nj r0frcFVR8ehMdhw414dQj4V6J6uwL9NxEfy6WUnzseyY1vR0MOMyukI6wCsKBZcN13yd 44J6ZD1Dvsx5WQwARubdz90KXCkJ4IJBxuwD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wqanfmBA464Ybu04plHQCR0YUX7/HHOtpOVITLUlogH5oXyhKZoRG7JIrBzvZptkWc QInWR6llDrwF9hqwEi+9qrMvr3cdFem9RxKF9TJo/dryK6MnAs/viXMi8nTVLDa55Uc4 kkTVl/iVD2thUVI7ku8PQgiB/mJqgX4oe/UWg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.75 with SMTP id g11mr138686bkg.172.1265744668190; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:44:08 +0000 Message-ID: To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:44:30 -0000 On 9 February 2010 15:59, Mike Jeays wrote: > On February 8, 2010 01:53:22 pm Eric Petersen wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple >> of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original >> install have gone out of business and cannot be found. >> >> Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up >> to the server and I'm getting "filesystem full" errors and since I >> don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone >> that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person >> that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he >> has moved with no forwarding. >> >> I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't >> know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like >> it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. >> >> Thank you for your time and have a great day. >> >> -- >> Eric Petersen > > If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user = mode, > and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is a= ll > covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, =A0I think yo= u may > be out of luck... > May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric.... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:55:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3B5106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorge@bsdchile.cl) Received: from mail-yx0-f199.google.com (mail-yx0-f199.google.com [209.85.210.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B808FC1E for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so3528483yxe.27 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:55:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.154.8 with SMTP id g8mr2526511wfo.57.1265745309514; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:55:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:55:09 -0300 Message-ID: <28d0e6b81002091155n5ebbbc30jda67d4910338f403@mail.gmail.com> From: Jorge Medina To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3.6 dumps core - bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:55:11 -0000 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wr= ote: > On 9.0-current ia64, firefox-3.6,1: > > TZAV> firefox3 & > [6] 91741 > TZAV> Bus error (core dumped) > > [6] =A0 =A0Exit 138 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0firefox3 > TZAV> gdb /usr/local/bin/firefox3 ./firefox-bin.core > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you = are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditi= ons. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. =A0Type "show warranty" for deta= ils. > This GDB was configured as "ia64-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/bin/firefo= x3": not in executable format: File format not recognized > > Core was generated by `firefox-bin'. > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > #0 =A00x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 =A00x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > #1 =A00x20000000412e20c0 in ?? () > Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) > (gdb) > > > Please advise > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > echo sem_load=3D"YES" > /boot/loader.conf reboot --=20 Jorge Andr=E9s Medina Oliva. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:04:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4D3106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxyd.oxyd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960178FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so2111547bwz.33 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:04:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Nh9JJFqkbHlLIKd82LN6vdGP5P+GaC6NiesW1O352s=; b=h8vicuzzuUFR7dngmZOhIM30TSL1C9feeGgS4VxEgHJYiZIjIEKfrzcTjTtdpqMbBV eoCmAQ/zbQE0v5Pi5eQsZHWDPSz5f21Njg0TEoG1dFP53wh7E6VxRC2xgw6jiWSp3uQM hrqH/cL/zVAMujP1QkjNONNq8SIx4PeQLOFXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fHP0Srw0Iz0re9IoXrMjd2oP7kh9y49ocbBVAjEJdmlletuWmmJ26+f255L55IN2xB cxOcoy4Z/6k+GffxPjGTXP/33gGUYykiR5uUW9m3KyPM/LkW0CSDe/9WB9SLReevQYd7 9AjsPPRplvDvNkl2LfiwkOJ3rruK38YyxH2J4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.33.216 with SMTP id i24mr5295488bkd.154.1265745883196; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:04:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Majerech?= To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:04:45 -0000 On 9 February 2010 20:27, Polytropon wrote: > As you intendedly state that you're not searching for a > solution in the field of typesetting - where LaTeX comes > to mind immediately - I could imagine that you can do it > the hard way. > > First, see the symbols here: > > http://web.ift.uib.no/Fysisk/Teori/KURS/TeX/symALL.html > > Split the images into individual ones, and then use a > graphics suite, such as Gimp or OpenOffice Draw, to drag > them around the screen and combine a formula from them. > > Surely, you would be massively faster doing it with LaTeX, > but there's no mouse involved. :-) There is also this site: http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html . It allows you to draw a mathematical symbol -- with your mouse -- and it will guess how you write that in LaTeX. As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this could be rather helpful. ~ Ondra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:21:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2550C1065670; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED17E8FC13; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19KLU8n079716; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:21:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B71C3CA.1020304@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:21:30 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson References: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vbox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:21:33 -0000 Bernt Hansson wrote: > I can run the GUI but not load the kernelmodule. I can run GUI and load module, but module seems to crash the system on VM start. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:33:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719A6106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137108FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19KXnqO011227; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o19KXnlL011224; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <4B71C3CA.1020304@rawbw.com> Message-ID: References: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> <4B71C3CA.1020304@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: vbox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:33:52 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Yuri wrote: > Bernt Hansson wrote: >> I can run the GUI but not load the kernelmodule. > > I can run GUI and load module, but module seems to crash the system on VM > start. Did you rebuild the kernel module after updating the system? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:40:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CADD106566B; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3AF8FC0A; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o19KesKX085733; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B71C856.9070403@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:40:54 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> <4B71C3CA.1020304@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vbox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:40:57 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > Did you rebuild the kernel module after updating the system? > Yes, I rebuilt the module too. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:41:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC061106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B10E8FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1049878qwd.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:41:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bTtHcoGw9iyy7z9z/JP2DoQFWkemL7fzJxyqbZ6VMQQ=; b=xj7caTJf+OCFmiWUIRFpxtKgvxvB5g1UG9LM5IT4VhsAdqoeVq+JI3Rb22w24dH9CX KNfeXuqHqKVyEUwcxS7kWzFkJQSyTVqAACYN7aD2QbTPkjvVCkZY9AiJ46cY8aJDEvxa ukPasAHKzNKQQEbdTR7FqqD5oymBg7CbmEOXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LTGQ2/cEEkhoREBhsig9O1RlvzUFkanRBh9BWt8sN70jvIkUFYuddN4Q+psmyJV/9u tBhvjBlabTZN4gQkRR0Ul/sytEDpNn978NJ9qlzXSsLkFa4ax6v+kf5T66fRgJPBtnCv Kj6mdgtsXhZv04CBc0zzWbrlKGmkqZl6IrH0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.62.71 with SMTP id w7mr1370326qch.92.1265748067376; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:41:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:41:07 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641002091241h65d4fb70sa7daafca885a2b1d@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:41:08 -0000 I'm trying to send large UDP packets between 2 programs written in the Java programming language. These 2 programs will be running on 2 different hosts which are far apart. The "test" code for these programs is only a few lines and is here: http://daffy.nerius.com/temp/BigUDPPacketTestClient.java http://daffy.nerius.com/temp/BigUDPPacketTestServer.java First, I noticed that I was able to send data that is 9216 in length between 2 FreeBSD 7.1 hosts ("far apart" in network distance) running Sun JDK 1.5.0_16-p9 (compiled myself from /usr/ports/java/jdk15). Any packet greater than this in length would not be sent, with the following error: Exception in thread "main" java.io.IOException: Message too long at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method) at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612) at BigUDPPacketTestClient.main(BigUDPPacketTestClient.java:24) I then repeated these tests between 2 Linux hosts ("far apart" in network distance). One Linux host (the "server") was running OpenJDK 1.6.0-b09, and the other (the "client") was running Sun JDK 1.6.0_14-b08. This time, I was able to send 35512 bytes in a UDP packet before it crapped out. For my particular application, I would really benefit from being able to send large UDP packets. Does anyone know how to increase the max allowed size of UDP packets in a Java program? I assume it's something outside of the Java program, in the system or kernel or whatnot. Any help from network gurus would be appreciated. Should I post this in the freebsd-net mailing list instead? - Nerius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:48:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FB8106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2278FC22 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KXL00J1UDT5K830@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:48:42 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002090203 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <560f92641002091241h65d4fb70sa7daafca885a2b1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:48:41 -0800 Message-id: <021E6C4C-4EDD-4683-B2F0-0F2FCAE18FFF@mac.com> References: <560f92641002091241h65d4fb70sa7daafca885a2b1d@mail.gmail.com> To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:48:47 -0000 On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: > First, I noticed that I was able to send data that is 9216 in length > between 2 FreeBSD 7.1 hosts ("far apart" in network distance) running > Sun JDK 1.5.0_16-p9 (compiled myself from /usr/ports/java/jdk15). [ ... ] > For my particular application, I would really benefit from being able > to send large UDP packets. Does anyone know how to increase the max > allowed size of UDP packets in a Java program? I assume it's > something outside of the Java program, in the system or kernel or > whatnot. You've encountered: % sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216 However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the traffic. I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for local traffic.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 20:59:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F2A1065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324828FC21 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1053406qwd.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:59:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7oWK6VDoXtfVDSbEy1528s29R1gzP3OWhCQ92W4/LsU=; b=ZuUqhnWPiKclrhiNucpzHWvc1SwsRr+PRe+YRy7W2E/nY8QRzQRDA8RS20mUPc5alw MCzb197NaakkY5LvAkVM/vQ23aqkpc7tpWP+tv3Ef0+C+R2YRoKCCkKbL+ZS0gshHgq3 t20ilxaxhCKFzxdwhgK7dA/L9QigastoJ9VsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XQVfy14dERU75xDbn3MIIWVja6Mi+H65oGkOVECQ+q2iosd72aX1sJb3DBfL6k/28Y lizSRfnhIzlAoUKgchHsmP2coTR/3PEKBdbmzSyukoBx1E+TsSxIfFtSlDL4pcYS7m89 b5YF5ClbMSy3QVKu0qCsDDsLKDGgy8d00D8XQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.13.20 with SMTP id z20mr1386304qcz.83.1265749177374; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:59:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <021E6C4C-4EDD-4683-B2F0-0F2FCAE18FFF@mac.com> References: <560f92641002091241h65d4fb70sa7daafca885a2b1d@mail.gmail.com> <021E6C4C-4EDD-4683-B2F0-0F2FCAE18FFF@mac.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:59:36 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641002091259q4f4c0e3aq4c4b4696895c1f73@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:59:38 -0000 > You've encountered: > > % sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram > net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216 > > However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the traffic. I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for local traffic.... Wow thanks. So it normally fits in 1 IP packet? (What about the MTU being like 1500 or something?) What's wrong with fragmentation? Any links to explain this? This isn't local traffic by the way, I will be sending stuff between a data center in San Diego and a data center in Chicago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:14:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2029B106568D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp8.server.rpi.edu (smtp8.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEAC8FC1C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp8.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o19KDRZg001470; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:13:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <539c60b91002021859h6761ef1fk244d69000e089c65@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b91002021859h6761ef1fk244d69000e089c65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:13:26 -0500 To: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Mailing List From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 20.00] 22490(-25) X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.228 Cc: Subject: Re: can't make an 'a' slice except with auto-defaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:14:24 -0000 At 7:59 PM -0700 2/2/10, Steve Franks wrote: >On a running system. I mean, I know I should quit being a &%^#& and >read the manpage for bsdlabel, but sysintall really does have a nice >tui. 'C'reate slice goes straight to 'd', even on a 'fresh' disk. >I see in the handbook, this is alluded to, but some intermediate level >between begginer and expert (bsdlabel just strikes me as way too easy >to trash the disk I'm running off of while trying to make a backup), >would be nice...512M just won't fit the kernel+symbols. If you're running into the issue that I think you're running into, then there is a way to trick sysinstall to do what you want. When you ask sysinstall to create that first partition, claim that you are creating the partition named '/'. If you do that, it will put the partition in as "a". You couldn't actually partition it as '/', of course, because that would conflict with '/' on your running system. But sysinstall will let you say you want to create '/', and then use "a" for that partition. Then select that "a" partition, and tell sysinstall you want to change the name for that partition. Change it to whatever you want. At that point sysinstall can't change the partition from "a" to "d", so you'll have the mount-point that you really want as the "a" partition. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:28:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49270106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311838FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KXL00JKQFNC7N30@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002090213 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <560f92641002091259q4f4c0e3aq4c4b4696895c1f73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:28:24 -0800 Message-id: <9AB1C572-BD43-450B-89DD-9674194CFF8F@mac.com> References: <560f92641002091241h65d4fb70sa7daafca885a2b1d@mail.gmail.com> <021E6C4C-4EDD-4683-B2F0-0F2FCAE18FFF@mac.com> <560f92641002091259q4f4c0e3aq4c4b4696895c1f73@mail.gmail.com> To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:28:26 -0000 On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: >> % sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram >> net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216 >> >> However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the traffic. I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for local traffic.... > > Wow thanks. So it normally fits in 1 IP packet? Normal use of UDP is for un-sequenced data which can fit entirely within a single packet, where some drops, out-of-order delivery, etc don't matter. (Classic example is realtime streaming, where stream-based guarantees that TCP makes is exactly what you don't want...) > (What about the MTU being like 1500 or something?) In that case, the most data per UDP packet you can send would be 1472 bytes. > What's wrong with fragmentation? Any links to explain this? If you're lucky, then it's simply much slower than using PMTU datasize. Anything in the path which does NAT, VPN tunnelling, IPsec, or the like is probably going to have to reassemble all of the fragmented packets, adjust IPs/etc for NAT or break them up again for the new MTU for the case of tunnels, refragment the packets, redo checksums, etc. Google is your friend; the first few links like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_fragmentation http://www.nil.si/ipcorner/IP_Fragmentation If you're not lucky, an intermediate router or firewall will simply drop the traffic entirely; maybe you will see an ICMP message, or maybe not, but it will be up to the app to deal with retransmitting the data using smaller sizes. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:28:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E16110656C3 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D118FC23 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so8935289pzk.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:28:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1j0SHc4h9OqYUHYUjjwFOTnjtZ2TYxmBet08BaCzRC8=; b=HOT0c80axAwEbiGB/QJpjg1+JWCYlp06svVkR353j4EYbUwWpGsXbI1Zj5IlU/Nhhi 9pL/Gnz03CWbAJ4dlcnZ4e1O/hUkpkE/4qZHfbtzbdydiCGVYypyi1CBHi4fbDdUIaI+ 6dRxYbepqbJYRwqk5Ou1NL4Pe+7Xkb4xtHDtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AGbr811xnyY2frGrpRppTxic7f22WBB8+WG+xZgqUezNtoHJfUrOmWjZsIR4ubBLlh akL6eZknRkJOIEnJGK6twQHl2w7EE/RPmynObsbMSbIyLxQIzbdO03/jcm1m6Ureecv7 +DbkKGfAhrU4QK7+OxzYkeC5rtT4hQ4sEEMZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.3.33 with SMTP id 33mr2269247wfc.275.1265750931914; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:28:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b91002021859h6761ef1fk244d69000e089c65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:28:51 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002091328k74f497f6p825f2217c19b2e89@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can't make an 'a' slice except with auto-defaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:28:53 -0000 > If you're running into the issue that I think you're running into, > then there is a way to trick sysinstall to do what you want. > > When you ask sysinstall to create that first partition, claim that > you are creating the partition named '/'. =A0If you do that, it will > put the partition in as "a". =A0You couldn't actually partition it as > '/', of course, because that would conflict with '/' on your > running system. =A0But sysinstall will let you say you want to create > '/', and then use "a" for that partition. > > Then select that "a" partition, and tell sysinstall you want to > change the name for that partition. =A0Change it to whatever you > want. =A0At that point sysinstall can't change the partition from "a" > to "d", so you'll have the mount-point that you really want as the > "a" partition. I really should have thought of that! So you create it as "/", and then hit 'M' and change the mount point to, say, /mnt/root... Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:29:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B7A10656AC for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1918FC69 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o19KKCiw003194; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:20:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB383B25CD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:20:12 -0500 To: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 20.00] 22490(-25) X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.227 Cc: Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:29:14 -0000 At 8:09 AM -0600 2/8/10, Peter Steele wrote: >I've set up a system with gpart and have the swap partition first >followed by root, var, and so on. This works fine but I've seen >documents that always have root first, then swap. Is there any >reason that root should be the first partition or can it follow swap >space? In the world of MBR partitioning, there is some situation where it's important that the root partition be 'a'. Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was. Probably something having to do with the boot loader. I do remember running into it once when I had the root partition as 'd' by mistake. But that was several years ago, so I don't remember the details. In any case, I would not expect the same problems to come up once you're using gpart partitioning. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:37:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027221065670 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f203.google.com (mail-px0-f203.google.com [209.85.216.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE098FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi41 with SMTP id 41so8068438pxi.27 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:37:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FCh6lWaTIoGpURDeN4+1msITawNOmFes8RK/683xmzQ=; b=nPjHdj9EGI0Q1aCpO3Np8JM4fYin7LvbdIV66e6JTfHPEdCxXBi/V8bx6yaMSND1yW FqFXVAccYvvUSi4igsM5EGWxY/5aT1JscpkG5L2kOWLYHc0amZ2/uWiczwiLOsGXuOKG BDxE0RTQe60CoeHdMzirKiuDZ58MPPJ3ABZrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hrmsZNqbYDN7zTPJSdsoM8dVmLbyI19dPaO/HlV5omKmFLCTlv00Cv9YBS3cVQf8TL AULAL7Kcob8rvU6MVLrkfrAQdYCLcTltKMl+rlxfw2FvANiBqvzQaQHC73NVPgNLF+SE NjzGpyGN/vmWNaP0sKJ+yXYNaAdtm/OfOb55Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.7.38 with SMTP id 38mr66663wfg.179.1265751465201; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:37:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:37:45 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002091337s6dc7cbbejfef28f1e8f027c25@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Tiv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:37:46 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Tiv wrote: > Hi there --- > > I'm writing this to tell you how much FreeBSD has gone downhill since > version 5.3... > > I don't know who's bright idea it was to remove the xorgcfg and the > xorgconfig programs, > but they should be beaten sensless with an IBM AT keyboard. Also if you > REQUIRE that > dbus and hald be enabled for so called auto-configuration, put it in the dam > rc.conf file. > > After an hour of dicking around with the X configuration, and it still > doesn't work.... > I install something else ---- this is 2010 fer cryin' out load... Linux > doesn't have this problem. > > thanks for making freebsd a pain in the ass, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > HAL & DBUS are evil bloated hogs. mount always worked fine for me. I think if you locate the section in /usr/ports/UPDATING that mentions "AllowEmptyInput" you may find the fix you are looking for. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:50:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E707F106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39398FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nexyf-0005rT-6E; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:50:37 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nexye-0004vy-U5; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:50:37 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19LoaKk041924; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:36 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o19LoaZZ041923; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:36 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:36 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jorge Medina Message-ID: <20100209215036.GB41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <28d0e6b81002091155n5ebbbc30jda67d4910338f403@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <28d0e6b81002091155n5ebbbc30jda67d4910338f403@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3.6 dumps core - bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:50:39 -0000 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:55:09PM -0300, Jorge Medina wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On 9.0-current ia64, firefox-3.6,1: > > > > TZAV> firefox3 & > > [6] 91741 > > TZAV> Bus error (core dumped) > > > > [6]    Exit 138                      firefox3 > > TZAV> gdb /usr/local/bin/firefox3 ./firefox-bin.core > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details. > > This GDB was configured as "ia64-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/bin/firefox3": not in executable format: File format not recognized > > > > Core was generated by `firefox-bin'. > > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > > #0  0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > > (gdb) bt > > #0  0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > > #1  0x20000000412e20c0 in ?? () > > Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > (gdb) > > > > > > Please advise > > anton > > > > echo sem_load="YES" > /boot/loader.conf > reboot I've options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES in the kernel config file already. This is a dual cpu box with SMP kernel. It seems to crash only on "heavy" sites, e.g. jpost.com. I've seen some posts in the last couple of days where the problem was attributed to SMP. I can confirm that firefox3.6 runs fine on UP sparc64. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:51:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746BB106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADB88FC20 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1063296qwd.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:51:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=C2i6Eh+OaRDpqf45faxvMTjIWpG5oFYMNNdCwdQ2xII=; b=eJXy6zsRTkpFppe3/Kzpqd0xC21ODaCR1q9L1+Y4r1Wmq/I5p/uUum1n+GckE3JhKT P96GODZjk7xulhWd6E+mu9/ElLWeB4YS8BnHXPvN4usEq9anyfUHqBnNdrGdeCZ2VEH9 tllQBiylwLmumXy/3hvW+8puUZzAEJ3h0K7sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=HV9Wh4pXMH1JZDYsxqz/1ATDzvBcbTnWehIi6A/UoThLJpyMysmtSoTf7obEW3Q1X/ 3x6h401mJZKGEVJndwNARGQKKObuv0kQrR8KMtckjYCwYoVlULtS32Xu5nZdv2XnNmNY EPT82HrkMry5Yp75vUBlPMkGydwU1UznpXoaM= Received: by 10.224.109.79 with SMTP id i15mr3417244qap.368.1265752271522; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1575501qwb.7.2010.02.09.13.51.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:51:10 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:51:00 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002091551.00686.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: midnight commander X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:51:13 -0000 It was the worse update in my more than two years experience with FreeBSD...uh. Now is almost everything done except Midnight Commander: bs/libmc_la-util.o util.c: In function 'is_printable': util.c:111: error: 'eight_bit_clean' undeclared (first use in this function) util.c:111: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once util.c:111: error: for each function it appears in.) util.c:114: error: 'full_eight_bits' undeclared (first use in this function) gmake[3]: *** [libmc_la-util.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/mc/work/mc-4.7.0.2/lib' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/mc/work/mc-4.7.0.2/lib' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/mc/work/mc-4.7.0.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/mc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/mc. ===>>> make failed for misc/mc ===>>> Aborting update Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:53:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238691065692 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED02B8FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so8962027pzk.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:53:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5CQIN7Jl7nkjAfTm25WeBVzmlHykcg0EL9FLuOyHv3k=; b=A5hlN55XCyHNbaYvce6QDKzh4xxdGlOk9Ic6Ud7oDlfeTixmNdtqXO3uwJgqJY+ilL LC2kAnsbCvpk339RBD+VcCPWoq1EWZ4KdVw/69tb69nRmNPV/klbTXR0GRavG8y4P28s zNRsSvvtZUtG1yWxI+m5njltUx9DzW+Slkow4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rTgpTql1rYVSnO39aTkbicOptlwbdcDRrxv8Mo8xSwf1FsgK+D1JYlrcfYrqTiZd65 MUqdAhLCn/Xhjrhicz6m7ZLyIkttT2HxysOCec0lsxFOxUaeHAAWpjo+VyuqWcvBw+fV sRNtDcqNcvPKSqTHcszotOoh7eAmlR5+Ihv9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.121.2 with SMTP id t2mr2357075wfc.100.1265752384367; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:53:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:53:04 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002091353x13f1aff8y4168ddc4dddb2806@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Tiv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:53:05 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Tiv wrote: > Hi there --- > > I'm writing this to tell you how much FreeBSD has gone downhill since > version 5.3... > > I don't know who's bright idea it was to remove the xorgcfg and the > xorgconfig programs, > but they should be beaten sensless with an IBM AT keyboard. Also if you > REQUIRE that > dbus and hald be enabled for so called auto-configuration, put it in the > dam rc.conf file. > > After an hour of dicking around with the X configuration, and it still > doesn't work.... > I install something else ---- this is 2010 fer cryin' out load... Linux > doesn't have this problem. > > thanks for making freebsd a pain in the ass, > > Gary > > Reading the documentation to hard for you? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:54:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F481065694 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from decke@bluelife.at) Received: from mail.itac.at (mail.itac.at [91.205.172.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A76F8FC14 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [91.205.172.21] (helo=webmail.bluelife.at) by mail.itac.at with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NexX0-0007KL-DQ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:02 +0100 From: Bernhard Froehlich To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> References: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: decke@bluelife.at User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.itac.at", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:18:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2010-02-09 20:16, Yuri: >> Every time I try to run a VM my whole system hangs. This started after >> the resent system/ports update. I even force-recompiled all ports that >> VirtualBox depends on and still have the problem. >> >> Anybody is able to run vbox? > > I can run the GUI but not load the kernelmodule. > > testbox# kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error [...] Content analysis details: (0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 3.4 FH_DATE_PAST_20XX The date is grossly in the future. -1.5 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, vbox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:54:15 -0000 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:18:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2010-02-09 20:16, Yuri: >> Every time I try to run a VM my whole system hangs. This started after >> the resent system/ports update. I even force-recompiled all ports that >> VirtualBox depends on and still have the problem. >> >> Anybody is able to run vbox? > > I can run the GUI but not load the kernelmodule. > > testbox# kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error Have a look at /var/log/messages and see what gets logged there when trying to load the module. Probably your Kernel sources and the vbox module are out of date or you hit a bug. Please read http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox on how to correctly load the module because you risk a freeze when loading it with kldload when running. > FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 29 21:43:44 CET 2009 > > virtualbox-ose-3.1.2_1 A general-purpose full virtualizer for x86 hardware > > virtualbox-ose-kmod-3.1.2_1 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD > >> Yuri >> >> virtualbox-ose-3.1.2_1 >> virtualbox-ose-kmod-3.1.2_1 >> 8.0-STABLE -- Bernhard Fröhlich http://www.bluelife.at/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 21:55:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871861065672 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4608C8FC1D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989C91E703; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:55:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o19LtZ0A001944; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:55:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:55:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej?= Majerech Message-Id: <20100209225534.5e29093a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:55:38 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ondřej Majerech wrote: > As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually > is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this > could be rather helpful. There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing mechanism for formulas. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 22:04:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE2B106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F0C8FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1065797qwd.7 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:04:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=8UQ4IV03JpivYsugPOgVmgDIYjXaBQG0qJJ7Re4Ufnk=; b=sli4UzbqM932zbyJumtrpqztK2yto0FH7DLE5siPC4x0fmXh1AeWn+ZAYCpArdVLq5 zBotBKd9bea2jwS5pdEDu+c+eqKZGAopJtTIcffJWxmpWzyDU0HtqsOHpLsQCymFMSfS 9Bxe+XOeyB+IlyqU5xMr63l9+DXKabE1j06bg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=HddJNMMRb4ZJKUyRzt7dRnUSTAHO2Vb60bkpRv4TgWBQI+L1BHhQ6pMCktISgc1Ib2 CdicC4+/om7FlsolzFh57B3EYY9sbb7t7qVEUdFL8pnryYLmSk2tGH0GuqtJZlhEKAk9 F74u/wCBp3r2JNFkNssLOePB21Z6w8v6KXo7Y= Received: by 10.224.23.145 with SMTP id r17mr3445789qab.119.1265753064113; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm819065qwf.54.2010.02.09.14.04.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:04:23 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:04:13 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002091604.13971.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: openal-soft X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:04:25 -0000 I had mplayer installed and I have also option Enable OpenAL sound support checked. I did as UPDATING says and everything were look okay but when I update (big update) the system "mplayer" complain that cannot install openALL because openal-soft is installed. I went bacjk to the openALL and it is okay but my question is it is possible to build mplayer with openal support and openal- soft installed, please? Thanks in advance. 20100125: AFFECTS: users of audio/openal and graphics/openal-soft AUTHOR: mva@FreeBSD.org The default OpenAL implementation was switched to audio/openal-soft. To update all ports correctly, the following steps have to be performed. pkg_delete -f openal-\* If you use portmaster: portmaster -or audio/openal audio/openal-soft If you use portupgrade: portupgrade -or audio/openal audio/openal-soft If you want to stick with audio/openal, please specify the following ports make flag within /etc/make.conf (or an appropriate configuration file for your ports): WANT_OPENAL=si Mitja -------- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 22:56:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3A8106566B; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245F48FC13; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Nez0j-0006cX-JD>; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:56:49 +0100 Received: from e178020182.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.20.182] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Nez0j-000570-GB>; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:56:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4B71E830.8020907@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:56:48 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100207 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tequnix@frogmi.net References: <4B6FF8D0.8030208@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20100209110021.599bddab@zev.home.callooh.com> In-Reply-To: <20100209110021.599bddab@zev.home.callooh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 85.178.20.182 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net/samba34: after upgrade from samba33 -> samba34 no client can connect to samba34-server anymore! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:56:51 -0000 On 02/09/10 11:00, tequnix@frogmi.net wrote: > Am Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:43:12 +0000 > schrieb "O. Hartmann": > >> I have no idea what's going wrong. The authentication is done via >> LDAP. Using samab33 works without problem. > > did you use "smbpasswd -w ..." to store the ldap password? i realized > that this is a necessary step when upgrading from samba 33 to > samba 34 (when using ldapsam as passdb backend) > > best regards, > =A8reinhard Hello. Yes, I did, but the problem went away, when I removed all old=20 /var/db/samba files and folders. Although samba34 created=20 /var/db/samba34, the existence of folder and files /var/db/samba seemed=20 to cause the problem. Now, everything is smooth and shibny. Thanks, Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 23:10:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048651065692 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41C78FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19NAhwB083278; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:10:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:10:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:10:43 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100209231043.GA76811@thought.org> References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100209225534.5e29093a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100209225534.5e29093a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Ond??ej Majerech , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:10:52 -0000 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:34PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ond??ej Majerech wrote: > > As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually > > is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this > > could be rather helpful. > > There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never > used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing > mechanism for formulas. > lyx is there, in ports/print/lyx. given all the work it takes to create what i'm thinking of, it makes sense to do it via the keyboard. --and even then, you may not get it right for several tries. i was thinking of simple things like, say, the integral from 0 to pi dxdy; ormaybe the nth root of x-to-the-yth power. then i saw how messy thing can get and i understand why no one has done this before! thanks, gents. gary > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 23:16:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B72E106568B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C318FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NezJK-00003k-6o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NezJK-0005mE-4J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19NG1JU043362 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:16:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o19NG1Zc043361 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:16:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:16:01 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100209231601.GF41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: sftp from home wireless box to work - get is much faster that put X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:16:03 -0000 I was trying to measure the file transfer rates between my home and my office boxes. Both are 9.0-current. At home I've wireless, TL-WN851N, using ath(4) driver. I used sftp(1), which I launch from the home box. I made files sized 10MB, 100MB and 1GB via dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=10 dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=100 dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=1024 respectively. What I discovered is put(mput) is much slower than get(mget). Here is a sample of timings: 10MB file ######### sftp> put 1gb Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb 1gb 100% 10MB 59.2KB/s 02:53 sftp> mget 1gb Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 10MB 330.3KB/s 00:31 100MB file ########## sftp> mput 1gb Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb 1gb 100% 100MB 58.6KB/s 29:07 sftp> mget 1gb Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 1.0MB/s 01:41 sftp> mget 1gb Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 930.9KB/s 01:50 1GB file ######## sftp> mget 1gb Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 1024MB 796.8KB/s 21:56 sftp> mput 1gb Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb 1gb 7% 79MB 56.3KB/s 4:46:28 ETA (I interrupted the last transfer, just too long to wait). So putting (sending) a file is about 5-17 times faster than getting (receiving) it. What is the reason behind this? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 23:24:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F00B10657A8 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3AD8FC1D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19NOm8g097795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:24:48 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B71EEC0.1030201@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:24:48 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100209231601.GF41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100209231601.GF41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sftp from home wireless box to work - get is much faster that put X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:24:50 -0000 On 09/02/2010 23:16, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I was trying to measure the file transfer > rates between my home and my office boxes. > Both are 9.0-current. > > At home I've wireless, TL-WN851N, using ath(4) driver. > > I used sftp(1), which I launch from the home box. > > I made files sized 10MB, 100MB and 1GB via > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=10 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=100 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=1024 > > respectively. > > What I discovered is put(mput) is much slower than get(mget). > > Here is a sample of timings: > > 10MB file > ######### > > sftp> put 1gb > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > 1gb 100% 10MB 59.2KB/s 02:53 > sftp> mget 1gb > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 10MB 330.3KB/s 00:31 > > 100MB file > ########## > > sftp> mput 1gb > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > 1gb 100% 100MB 58.6KB/s 29:07 > sftp> mget 1gb > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 1.0MB/s 01:41 > sftp> mget 1gb > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 930.9KB/s 01:50 > > 1GB file > ######## > > sftp> mget 1gb > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 1024MB 796.8KB/s 21:56 > sftp> mput 1gb > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > 1gb 7% 79MB 56.3KB/s 4:46:28 ETA > > (I interrupted the last transfer, just too long to wait). > > So putting (sending) a file is about 5-17 times faster > than getting (receiving) it. > > What is the reason behind this? Just a thought, Since you are in the uk, do you have ADSL at home? If so the upload on ADSL is much lower than the download. On the other hand your office line is likely to be a symmetric connection so would have the same speed in both directions. Vince > > > many thanks > anton > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 23:38:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B54106568D for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319BF8FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nezf0-0000Xr-Ec; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:38:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nezf0-0002g9-8c; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:38:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19NcQRG043427; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:38:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o19NcPJj043426; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:38:25 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:38:25 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Vincent Hoffman Message-ID: <20100209233825.GG41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100209231601.GF41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B71EEC0.1030201@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B71EEC0.1030201@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sftp from home wireless box to work - get is much faster that put X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:38:27 -0000 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 11:24:48PM +0000, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 09/02/2010 23:16, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I was trying to measure the file transfer > > rates between my home and my office boxes. > > Both are 9.0-current. > > > > At home I've wireless, TL-WN851N, using ath(4) driver. > > > > I used sftp(1), which I launch from the home box. > > > > I made files sized 10MB, 100MB and 1GB via > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=10 > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=100 > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/mexas/1gb bs=1m count=1024 > > > > respectively. > > > > What I discovered is put(mput) is much slower than get(mget). > > > > Here is a sample of timings: > > > > 10MB file > > ######### > > > > sftp> put 1gb > > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > > 1gb 100% 10MB 59.2KB/s 02:53 > > sftp> mget 1gb > > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 10MB 330.3KB/s 00:31 > > > > 100MB file > > ########## > > > > sftp> mput 1gb > > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > > 1gb 100% 100MB 58.6KB/s 29:07 > > sftp> mget 1gb > > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 1.0MB/s 01:41 > > sftp> mget 1gb > > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 100MB 930.9KB/s 01:50 > > > > 1GB file > > ######## > > > > sftp> mget 1gb > > Fetching /usr/home/mexas/1gb to 1gb > > /usr/home/mexas/1gb 100% 1024MB 796.8KB/s 21:56 > > sftp> mput 1gb > > Uploading 1gb to /usr/home/mexas/1gb > > 1gb 7% 79MB 56.3KB/s 4:46:28 ETA > > > > (I interrupted the last transfer, just too long to wait). > > > > So putting (sending) a file is about 5-17 times faster > > than getting (receiving) it. > > > > What is the reason behind this? > Just a thought, Since you are in the uk, do you have ADSL at home? If so > the upload on ADSL is much lower than the download. yes, probably. It's a Virgin broadband. I guess it's ADSL. Anyway, that's just what I wanted to hear. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 00:05:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86B4106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7152C8FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1A05ox2012015; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:05:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1A05o9H012012; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:05:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:05:50 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b91002091337s6dc7cbbejfef28f1e8f027c25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> <539c60b91002091337s6dc7cbbejfef28f1e8f027c25@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:05:50 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:05:51 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Steve Franks wrote: > > HAL & DBUS are evil bloated hogs. mount always worked fine for me. (Mount?) Of course dbus and hal aren't required. > I think if you locate the section in /usr/ports/UPDATING that mentions > "AllowEmptyInput" you may find the fix you are looking for. AllowEmptyInput bad, AutoAddDevices good. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 00:14:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D9C106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BDD8FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1A0E7T7012041; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:14:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1A0E7jw012038; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:14:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:14:07 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20100209231043.GA76811@thought.org> Message-ID: References: <20100209044004.GA73416@thought.org> <20100209202709.afb45d04.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100209225534.5e29093a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100209231043.GA76811@thought.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:14:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: display and manipulate math symbols? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:14:09 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:34PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ond??ej Majerech wrote: >>> As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually >>> is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this >>> could be rather helpful. >> >> There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never >> used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing >> mechanism for formulas. > > lyx is there, in ports/print/lyx. given all the work it takes to > create what i'm thinking of, it makes sense to do it via the > keyboard. --and even then, you may not get it right for several > tries. i was thinking of simple things like, say, the integral > from 0 to pi dxdy; ormaybe the nth root of x-to-the-yth power. OOo Math: int from 0 to pi dxdy nroot n (x^y) Please reconsider the indenting on your posts. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 01:21:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B766D106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com (mail-qy0-f189.google.com [209.85.221.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DB08FC17 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so531150qyk.3 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:21:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=zbKKituydUgno0Sa+EJ3K34yJJRRjhbZa5v3CszNE+4=; b=N+ujVd21Oh/ECpAbB3elDud3rW+d6ZQnKTUQaoOxEd7l58qzxpACL+C3dtr6GeX+Q7 IcRTpWoQf6Jgq7siEUmyvk+KrYJ8A8TsPdD8tsndwGNNNlSNiUtQ4lh/3FcKJls0kc3s 7CmH6/J1Wk8cEZvH7oLnw7PqGRjASsGhWtn3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MDRPr2rta0R+wWpepih6y7BbS6F16Q1CbJFnbLLnv84t5PwmL7QJwdFVRZR/cteUaM iCBugIKFoAhM0wtxn2h060qlm8OSvdoMJC1iSZsexERRK8jsCd62zE7wE914M8VjaNe0 Q4o3wXk9X/TNyFBXwkbv7vGmO7QlJe1d9+upU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.31.212 with SMTP id z20mr3524545qac.265.1265764888809; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:21:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:21:28 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: curl question - not exactly on-topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:21:29 -0000 Actually, it's not merely a curl question, it's a "curl and squid" question. I'm trying to determine the cause of a major slowdown in web browsing on our network, so I've put curl on the squid box, and am using the following incantations to see if I can determine the cause of the slowdown: curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null http://www.example.com and curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null -x 192.168.1.72 http://www.example.com The problem arises with the second version, which uses the proxy. The first incantation just returns the times, which is exactly what I want. However, when I use the -x parameter, to use the proxy, I get html returned as well as the times, which is a pain to separate out. Can someone point me on the road to suppressing the unwanted output? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 01:51:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36EC106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ADF8FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:51:53 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,439,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="25533136" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 02:51:52 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 7481E1B07E7; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:51:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:51:52 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:51:54 -0000 hi there, i've been trying to delete all the works directories in my ports dir. this is the command i'm trying to use: sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -delete after i issue the command however sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d tells me that nothing got deleted at all. is there something wrong with that command? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 02:56:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D795106568D for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416DD8FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so3501807vws.13 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZJPTTbt3tPeUsTU4rpsTzgAwO46qqXLOh4em0YeTCsM=; b=NVQtVrrH3gXZQ3nafQ3EqzrO0jenHdzuYieUG+pb7w4BmFEcVWK8d8j+/Liu0GYzHN sPCjNows2DItN9VUscUvh+Vx1MxSrxFrNZPRfvTFCvX42hJV2f/N0n4KpYaR0gsyKLkO HTgHrat4ixZqqSdg7r76K6REmjfD0zZBX7QLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JXHj12MqnsJ30OJQXgwmRahla+cGaWW/bl2UntFZ8lKjydfAvfDjtxLgMWnSWvM/kI 875gnzR0eXidDH4bzalYTJ67GfcYYGSJtyCAtosNUci3kNkesfRzwkv6wkwfiX8Zniar ZNzKKJoLfDxcvpJe6PZgv0DmQb7aJqcKcDSyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.46.14 with SMTP id h14mr1229655vcf.84.1265770616516; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002081409j5bf332c3s37d5acdad82bef3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6201873e1002081409j5bf332c3s37d5acdad82bef3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:56:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Danny Edge To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Problem building GCC - Postfix install from ports failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:56:57 -0000 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Danny Edge wrote: > >> I was advised to try this again. New install FreeBSD 7.2 R, installing >> Postfix from cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix && make install clean >> >> I receive the following error near the end of the install: >> >> checking whether -fkeep-inline-functions is supported... yes >> updating cache ./config.cache >> creating ./config.status >> creating Makefile >> ===> Building for gcc-4.2.5_20090325 >> cd ./..//gcc-4.2-20090325 && autogen Makefile.def >> autogen: not found >> gmake: *** [..//gcc-4.2-20090325/Makefile.in] Error 127 >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/addresses. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/mail. >> mx# >> > > I guess gcc42 requires /usr/ports/devel/autogen > > Looks like the port is missing a dependency for some reason. Try > installing that port, and resume your gcc build. If it works you could file > a bug report. > > Installing the autogen port seemed to have solved the issue. Thank you! -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 03:16:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C89C1065670 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0605D8FC1F for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33EF4A2E3D7; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:14:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:14:57 -0800 From: Jason To: Alexander Best Message-ID: <20100210031456.GA80933@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:16:25 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:51:52AM +0100, Alexander Best thus spake: >hi there, > >i've been trying to delete all the works directories in my ports dir. this is >the command i'm trying to use: > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -delete > >after i issue the command however > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d > >tells me that nothing got deleted at all. is there something wrong with that >command? > >cheers. >alex You may want to try looking here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html Section 4.5.5 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 03:35:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD728106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BC858FC14 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1661 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2010 03:35:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265772954; bh=5p8kS4ZNSG6tePOSWCug6q73ZhY+2c6lX2buSITc8aU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JC3UJeFnP3j6q06/Qu88P6VDg+1Il4agmahYp57uNFPhYuG8USyl9oJQZ7rf4Tf6O8IKPlR5XyR2xLvO/ruXwk+YXo492+h+5DH6u+52uJFdHpAzS+ia/fXzljUQejtXPX53fZP0YgoYV4IIjsNGGSUaSJHmhZK98D6vLtanJHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QkESYCtmb5jIC+CATJu+l1c162W60oRcRN+ArZvS0uGFkqj6LAaaxQk7yp63+NSVk1u+gAAhHEgU5vCbfgpUGcSTxCJHY7ex9uycRZhATpOlHFxoje0jU8pqV0+RyNUxOKLGK//9Zw0dWQIwepaKCOXbn+b0ir2eFDsZf095HXY=; Message-ID: <8356.477.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LdS.gHwVM1lVIaQZnlx4gVVx4qI1NrA5RvJms1rC_HWpx8ZI.vbKSBYoSdSbWd6nMre9eEONl9X4INpeJCFMKvBEO4pDgnJYT6b2RY5Zw2gTvHEm3UiA73Zkmu3X5GPlgUAetIhWB3Lo_sVmby9EuhTdMGs4xs_CvRgbe1Ds8rZzbbqxYWxE9JxCNXeL1l.HmExCkIEJ2B90XkCqaA9aOvEGsGlWUhQFAZ59LcKVIQ35KNRENvJgVoN4fk5I87wP_1FuNjofIxGz_8v7jg2rgSnnM93xFmHyT48aQ8Dce6guvpmPUk_nUYHdmdr9kTZiQm1KgJBGSY_NmBsmLX0xYfOWfgxbfRGVlqWyJ1NTGpCImOd4dhAZ.mlv1G4- Received: from [208.95.208.226] by web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:35:53 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <20100209231601.GF41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B71EEC0.1030201@unsane.co.uk> <20100209233825.GG41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:35:53 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: Anton Shterenlikht , Vincent Hoffman In-Reply-To: <20100209233825.GG41851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sftp from home wireless box to work - get is much faster that put X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard Mahlerwein List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:35:55 -0000 >From: Anton Shterenlikht >To: Vincent Hoffman >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:38:25 PM >Subject: Re: sftp from home wireless box to work - get is much faster that put > >On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 11:24:48PM +0000, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> On 09/02/2010 23:16, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> > I was trying to measure the file transfer >> > rates between my home and my office boxes. >> > Both are 9.0-current. [snip] >> > At home I've wireless, TL-WN851N, using ath(4) driver. [snip] >> > I used sftp(1), which I launch from the home box. >> > So putting (sending) a file is about 5-17 times faster >> > than getting (receiving) it. >> > >> > What is the reason behind this? >> Just a thought, Since you are in the uk, do you have ADSL at home? If so >> the upload on ADSL is much lower than the download. > >yes, probably. It's a Virgin broadband. I guess it's ADSL. >Anyway, that's just what I wanted to hear. > >many thanks >anton Isn't that the wrong way around? Put some numbers to it and you'll see. Pretend a 5Mb download and 1 Mb upload at home. To a faster-than-you location, you would download at 5Mb, upload at 1Mb. NOT the other way around as the OP mentions. Now, if your upload was slower, as is mine, a 5 to 1 speed ratio the other way isn't a stretch at all. Here's mine (inexpensive 1 Mb/384Kb ADSL at home to 45 Mb symmetric fiber at work) sftp> put output.txt Uploading output.txt to /output.txt output.txt 100% 12MB 38.8KB/s 05:15 sftp> get output.txt output.txt2 Fetching /output.txt to output.txt2 /output.txt 100% 12MB 102.7KB/s 01:59 sftp> 38KB/s up, 102 KB/s down. 3 to 1. Some cable modems do larger asymmetries, like 5 Mb/256 Kb, and that could give you a ratio like that, but only if the work was on a connection like that and you were on something more symmetric. 17:1 is a bit hard to fathom. That's some serious asymmetry on the work end. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 05:05:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66DE106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA028FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o1A55IgO073735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:05:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1A55IxD036267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:05:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o1A55IDS036266; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:05:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:05:18 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Kurt Buff Message-ID: <20100210050518.GA64193@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:05:19 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curl question - not exactly on-topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:05:20 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 09), Kurt Buff said: > Actually, it's not merely a curl question, it's a "curl and squid" > question. > > I'm trying to determine the cause of a major slowdown in web browsing on > our network, so I've put curl on the squid box, and am using the following > incantations to see if I can determine the cause of the slowdown: > > curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null http://www.example.com > > and > > curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null -x 192.168.1.72 http://www.example.com > > The problem arises with the second version, which uses the proxy. The > first incantation just returns the times, which is exactly what I want. > > However, when I use the -x parameter, to use the proxy, I get html > returned as well as the times, which is a pain to separate out. Your problem is what's after -w. You want one argument: "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n", not two. With your original command, "%{time_namelookup}\n" is treated as another URL to fetch. With no proxy option, curl realizes it's not an url immediately and skips to the next argument on the commandline - http://www.example.com. With a proxy, curl has to send each url to the proxy for processing. The proxy probably returns a "400 Bad Request" error on the first (invalid) url, which is redirected to /dev/null. The next url doesn't have another -o so it falls back to printing to stdout. Adding -v to the curl commandline will help you diagnose problems like this. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 05:37:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7BD106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E1D8FC14 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1A5bAtQ083528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:37:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B72460A.5070404@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:37:14 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:37:10 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o1A5bAtQ083528 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: FBSD 8.0 littering the filesystem with *.gmon files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:37:15 -0000 I realize that developers find these helpful, but is there a way to suppress the creation of these files all over the filesystem? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 05:57:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347C10656C1 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BF08FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o1A5vmoU078727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:57:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1A5vkGM013208 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:57:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o1A5vjDX013114; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:57:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:57:44 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20100210055744.GC64193@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4B72460A.5070404@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B72460A.5070404@tundraware.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:57:48 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FBSD 8.0 littering the filesystem with *.gmon files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:57:49 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 09), Tim Daneliuk said: > I realize that developers find these helpful, but is there a way to > suppress the creation of these files all over the filesystem? You must have enabled profiling in CFLAGS somewhere; it's not on by default. Search for "-p" or "-pg" in /etc/make.conf or you shell's startup scripts. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 06:03:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C99106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2EB8FC17 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1A63VSN094512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:03:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B724C37.4020801@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:03:35 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4B72460A.5070404@tundraware.com> <20100210055744.GC64193@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100210055744.GC64193@dan.emsphone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:03:31 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o1A63VSN094512 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: FBSD 8.0 littering the filesystem with *.gmon files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:03:35 -0000 On 2/9/2010 11:57 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 09), Tim Daneliuk said: >> I realize that developers find these helpful, but is there a way to >> suppress the creation of these files all over the filesystem? > > You must have enabled profiling in CFLAGS somewhere; it's not on by default. > Search for "-p" or "-pg" in /etc/make.conf or you shell's startup scripts. > Nope - not set either place. In fact, CFLAGS isn't even set in the envirnment or mentioned in /etc/make.conf. Curiouser and curiouser... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 07:18:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82BA1065672 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp2.comclark.com (avmxsmtp2.comclark.com [202.69.191.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4D8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18625 invoked by uid 89); 10 Feb 2010 06:12:53 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 18620, pid: 18621, t: 0.1365s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.91.2/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.173.143) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2010 06:12:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4B725DA1.8080708@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:53 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: herbert langhans References: <20100209175339.18d2d289.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> <19313.38790.856415.592932@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100209180050.GA1486@sandcat> In-Reply-To: <20100209180050.GA1486@sandcat> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No floppy-images for FreeBSD 8.0 installation anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:18:03 -0000 >> herbert langhans writes: >> >> I cannot boot this computer from the SCSI-CD drives. Is there any >> chance to get 8.0 for floppies? >> I do not believe there are (by default) floppies for 8.0; >> whether this is new for this release of not I cannot say. >> Is the machine modern enough it could boot from a USB-connected >> CDROM? >> > Yes, > just checked it. There is a 'boot from usb-cdrom' option in the setup. >I guess I have to sacrifice a usb-stick for the installation. Will it >work this way? > > This is not yet updated in the the handbook -- but the >8.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img seems to be a file I have to dump on the >usb-stick. Is this the boot-file I need for the ftp-install? The memstick.img is very large because it contains fixit. I download the smaller disc1.iso and then use the following script to write it to a usb stick drive. There is no need to do a FTP-install because the disc1.iso has everything needed to install from. The thing you have to keep in mind is that some bios older that 2008 do not have option to boot from USB sticks or only can boot from some vendors USB sticks not all of them. #!/bin/sh #Purpose = Use to transfer the FreeBSD install cd1 to # a bootable 1GB USB flash drive so it can be used to install from. # First fetch the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso to your # hard drive /usr. Then execute this script from the command line # # fbsd2usb /usr/8.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso /usr/8.0-disc1.img # # Change system bios to boot from USB-dd and away you go. # NOTE: This script has to be run from root and your 1GB USB flash drive # has to be plugged in before running this script. # On the command line enter fbsd2usb iso-path img-path # You can set some variables here. Edit them to fit your needs. # Set serial variable to 0 if you don't want serial console at all, # 1 if you want comconsole and 2 if you want comconsole and vidconsole serial=0 set -u if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then echo "Usage: $0 source-iso-path output-img-path" exit 1 fi isoimage=$1; shift imgoutfile=$1; shift # Temp directory to be used later #export tmpdir=$(mktemp -d -t fbsdmount) export tmpdir=$(mktemp -d /usr/fbsdmount) export isodev=$(mdconfig -a -t vnode -f ${isoimage}) ISOSIZE=$(du -k ${isoimage} | awk '{print $1}') SECTS=$((($ISOSIZE + ($ISOSIZE/5))*4)) #SECTS=$((($ISOSIZE + ($ISOSIZE/5))*2)) echo " " echo "### Initializing image File started ###" echo "### This will take about 1 minute ###" date dd if=/dev/zero of=${imgoutfile} count=${SECTS} echo "### Initializing image File completed ###" date echo " " ls -l ${imgoutfile} export imgdev=$(mdconfig -a -t vnode -f ${imgoutfile}) bsdlabel -w -B ${imgdev} newfs -O1 /dev/${imgdev}a mkdir -p ${tmpdir}/iso ${tmpdir}/img mount -t cd9660 /dev/${isodev} ${tmpdir}/iso mount /dev/${imgdev}a ${tmpdir}/img echo " " echo "### Started Copying files to the image now ###" echo "### This will take about 6 minutes ###" date ( cd ${tmpdir}/iso && find . -print -depth | cpio -dump ${tmpdir}/img ) echo "### Completed Copying files to the image ###" date if [ ${serial} -eq 2 ]; then echo "-D" > ${tmpdir}/img/boot.config echo 'console="comconsole, vidconsole"' >> ${tmpdir}/img/boot/loader.conf elif [ ${serial} -eq 1 ]; then echo "-h" > ${tmpdir}/img/boot.config echo 'console="comconsole"' >> ${tmpdir}/img/boot/loader.conf fi echo " " echo "### Started writing image to flash drive now ###" echo "### This will take about 16 minutes ###" date dd if=${imgoutfile} of=/dev/da0 bs=1m echo "### Completed writing image to flash drive at ###" date cleanup() { umount ${tmpdir}/iso mdconfig -d -u ${isodev} umount ${tmpdir}/img mdconfig -d -u ${imgdev} rm -rf ${tmpdir} } cleanup ls -lh ${imgoutfile} echo "### Script finished ###" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 12:34:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF113106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B158FC1D for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:34:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,443,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="236202857" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 13:33:55 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id A1B761B07C0; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:33:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:33:55 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Jason Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100210031456.GA80933@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:34:10 -0000 thanks. but i moved away from using ports-mgtm/portupgrade so i don't really want to use portsclean, but use something else. i thought `find` should to be able to accomplish the job. maybe this is a bug in find? because actually the `find` command i'm using should work. cheers. alex Jason schrieb am 2010-02-10: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:51:52AM +0100, Alexander Best thus spake: > >hi there, > >i've been trying to delete all the works directories in my ports > >dir. this is > >the command i'm trying to use: > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -delete > >after i issue the command however > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d > >tells me that nothing got deleted at all. is there something wrong > >with that > >command? > >cheers. > >alex > You may want to try looking here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html > Section 4.5.5 > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator > experts-exchange.com > http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 12:44:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213CE1065672 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8928FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfBvZ-0002IN-35 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:44:21 +0100 Received: from 62.97.71.6 ([62.97.71.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:44:21 +0100 Received: from matiassurdi by 62.97.71.6 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:44:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:44:00 +0100 Lines: 254 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.97.71.6 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Sender: news Subject: Filesystem problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:44:31 -0000 Hi, I know this may not be the correct place to post this, but I feel like I'm going to get more help here than in the ejabberd forums. Maybe you can help me to debug what is going on here: I'm runing ejabberd-2.1-2 on FreeBSD it05 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Suddenly, my /var partition is running out of space. When I run df -h, i get: ]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 496M 373M 83M 82% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/mirror/gm0s1e 496M 58M 398M 13% /tmp /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 433G 2.6G 396G 1% /usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1d 13G 11G 998M 92% /var procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc When I cd to /var and run a du -hs I get: # cd /var/ [root@it05 /var]# du -hs * 2.0K account 2.0K agentx 6.0K at 2.0K audit 12K backups 4.0K crash 6.0K cron 168M db 2.0K empty 2.0K games 2.0K heimdal 18K lib 8.8M log 850K mail 4.0K msgs 48K named 4.0K net-snmp 2.0K preserve 54K run 2.0K rwho 3.5M spool 116K tmp 24K yp So, it seems that something is sucking up all the space but doesn't have a file descriptor on the file system, so du is not finding the file. Running lsof|grep /var I get: ... beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 10w VREG 0,93 31895 23581 /var/log/ejabberd/erlang.log beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 11u VREG 0,93 97 47130 /var/spool/ejabberd/LATEST.LOG beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 12w VREG 0,93 11170768676 23582 /var (/dev/mirror/gm0s1d) beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 19u VREG 0,93 119220 47140 /var/spool/ejabberd/offline_msg.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 20u VREG 0,93 6809 47142 /var/spool/ejabberd/private_storage.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 22u VREG 0,93 1282598 47148 /var/spool/ejabberd/pubsub_item.DAT beam.smp 28398 ejabberd 23u VREG 0,93 5752 47154 /var/spool/ejabberd/vcard.DAT ... So, it seems that ejabberd is sucking up 10Gb I'm missing on my filesystem, and that space is being reserved into the /var directory. Is this a bug on ejabberd? Is there any way to solve this without having to restart the server (not tried yet, as many people is using it....) Thanks. How From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 13:24:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C74106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A388FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,443,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="236207272" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 14:24:35 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 4747F1B07E7; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:24:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:24:34 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Jason Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100210031456.GA80933@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:24:36 -0000 thanks goes to jilles on #freebsd-bugbuster. he told me that -delete doesn't delete directories recursively. so what i'm bow using is sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -exec rm -rf {} + cheers. alex Jason schrieb am 2010-02-10: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:51:52AM +0100, Alexander Best thus spake: > >hi there, > >i've been trying to delete all the works directories in my ports > >dir. this is > >the command i'm trying to use: > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -delete > >after i issue the command however > >sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d > >tells me that nothing got deleted at all. is there something wrong > >with that > >command? > >cheers. > >alex > You may want to try looking here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html > Section 4.5.5 > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator > experts-exchange.com > http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 14:03:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032A7106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 381748FC2A for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28310 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2010 14:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.187.147) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Feb 2010 14:01:20 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C74AF170AA; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:03:07 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:03:07 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Alexander Best Message-ID: <20100210140307.GA38085@ozzmosis.com> References: <20100210031456.GA80933@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:03:12 -0000 On Wed 2010-02-10 14:24:34 UTC+0100, Alexander Best (alexbestms@wwu.de) wrote: > thanks goes to jilles on #freebsd-bugbuster. he told me that -delete doesn't > delete directories recursively. > > so what i'm bow using is > > sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -exec rm -rf {} + AFAIK another method is: sudo rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 14:27:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57841065676; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5088FC18; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfDXL-0006SB-Fs; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:27 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfDXL-0006K8-9h; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:27 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AERRgf058191; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:27 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AERQcK058190; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:26 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100210142726.GA58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3.6 dumps core - bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:27:28 -0000 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:15:13PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On 9.0-current ia64, firefox-3.6,1: > > TZAV> firefox3 & > [6] 91741 > TZAV> Bus error (core dumped) > > [6] Exit 138 firefox3 > TZAV> gdb /usr/local/bin/firefox3 ./firefox-bin.core > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "ia64-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/bin/firefox3": not in executable format: File format not recognized > > Core was generated by `firefox-bin'. > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > #1 0x20000000412e20c0 in ?? () > Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) > (gdb) I've rebuilt firefox with debugging support, so now I get tons of console output culminating in someting like this: ++DOCSHELL 0x2000000049046800 == 8 ++DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004b6bbc58) [serial = 18] [outer = 0x0] WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 ++DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b768058) [serial = 19] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(aURI) failed: file nsDefaultURIFixup.cpp, line 76 ++DOMWINDOW == 16 (0x200000004b6b9458) [serial = 20] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 --DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b768458) [serial = 17] [outer = 0x200000004ae77c00] [url = http://www.monkey.org/~provos/crawl/] --DOCSHELL 0x200000004b473000 == 7 --DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004ae77c58) [serial = 15] [outer = 0x0] [url = http://www.monkey.org/~provos/crawl/] --DOCSHELL 0x2000000049046800 == 6 --DOMWINDOW == 13 (0x200000004b768058) [serial = 19] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] [url = about:blank] --DOMWINDOW == 12 (0x200000004b6b9458) [serial = 20] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] [url = http://larbin.sourceforge.net/] --DOMWINDOW == 11 (0x200000004b6bbc58) [serial = 18] [outer = 0x0] [url = http://larbin.sourceforge.net/] ++DOMWINDOW == 12 (0x200000004a718058) [serial = 21] [outer = 0x200000004a71a800] ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 *** e = [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]" nsresult: "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line 326" data: no] WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 ++DOCSHELL 0x200000004b6afc00 == 7 ++DOMWINDOW == 13 (0x200000004b7c5058) [serial = 22] [outer = 0x0] WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 ++DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004b7c4458) [serial = 23] [outer = 0x200000004b7c5000] WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 ++DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b7c2858) [serial = 24] [outer = 0x200000004b7c5000] *** e = [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]" nsresult: "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line 326" data: no] Bus error (core dumped) [1] Exit 138 firefox3 Does the exception above shed any light on the origin of crash? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:03:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63030106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232248FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfE6E-0002Mr-Mu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfE6E-00048L-Jh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:30 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AF3U8f058335 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:30 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AF3U97058334 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:30 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:30 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:32 -0000 I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory an index.html with a simple list of files in this directory for a simple browsing. This sounds like a perl or shell script, but I was wondering if there is someting like this already available from ports. I couldn't find anything suitable. Any advice? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:05:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D452106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D62C8FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9501F7419; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:05:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:05:36 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:05:39 -0000 In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > directory for a simple browsing. > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > I was wondering if there is someting like > this already available from ports. I couldn't > find anything suitable. You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability and Apache will create those files on-demand. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:11:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC41065692 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3978FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfEDX-0002yc-2x; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:48 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfEDW-0004TF-Ur; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:02 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AFB2M2058781; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:02 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AFB2l8058780; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:02 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:02 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:11:49 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:05:36AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > > > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > > directory for a simple browsing. > > > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > > I was wondering if there is someting like > > this already available from ports. I couldn't > > find anything suitable. > > You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability and > Apache will create those files on-demand. I see.. I need to talk to the web server guys then. thank you anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A8A10656B1; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A095A8FC19; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfEHm-0003Ih-NT; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfEHm-0004kF-I2; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AFFQff058799; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AFFPco058798; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:25 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:23 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100210151523.GF58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100209161513.GA91694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210142726.GA58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100210142726.GA58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: gecko@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox3.6 dumps core - bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:28 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:27:26PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:15:13PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On 9.0-current ia64, firefox-3.6,1: > > > > TZAV> firefox3 & > > [6] 91741 > > TZAV> Bus error (core dumped) > > > > [6] Exit 138 firefox3 > > TZAV> gdb /usr/local/bin/firefox3 ./firefox-bin.core > > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > This GDB was configured as "ia64-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/bin/firefox3": not in executable format: File format not recognized > > > > Core was generated by `firefox-bin'. > > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > > #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > > (gdb) bt > > #0 0x2000000041082fe0 in ?? () > > #1 0x20000000412e20c0 in ?? () > > Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > (gdb) > > I've rebuilt firefox with debugging support, so > now I get tons of console output culminating in > someting like this: > > ++DOCSHELL 0x2000000049046800 == 8 > ++DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004b6bbc58) [serial = 18] [outer = 0x0] > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > ++DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b768058) [serial = 19] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] > WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(aURI) failed: file nsDefaultURIFixup.cpp, line 76 > ++DOMWINDOW == 16 (0x200000004b6b9458) [serial = 20] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > --DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b768458) [serial = 17] [outer = 0x200000004ae77c00] [url = http://www.monkey.org/~provos/crawl/] > --DOCSHELL 0x200000004b473000 == 7 > --DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004ae77c58) [serial = 15] [outer = 0x0] [url = http://www.monkey.org/~provos/crawl/] > --DOCSHELL 0x2000000049046800 == 6 > --DOMWINDOW == 13 (0x200000004b768058) [serial = 19] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] [url = about:blank] > --DOMWINDOW == 12 (0x200000004b6b9458) [serial = 20] [outer = 0x200000004b6bbc00] [url = http://larbin.sourceforge.net/] > --DOMWINDOW == 11 (0x200000004b6bbc58) [serial = 18] [outer = 0x0] [url = http://larbin.sourceforge.net/] > ++DOMWINDOW == 12 (0x200000004a718058) [serial = 21] [outer = 0x200000004a71a800] > ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 > ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 > ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 > ###!!! ASSERTION: XPConnect is being called on a scope without a 'Components' property!: 'Error', file xpcwrappednativescope.cpp, line 786 > *** e = [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]" nsresult: "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line 326" data: no] > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > ++DOCSHELL 0x200000004b6afc00 == 7 > ++DOMWINDOW == 13 (0x200000004b7c5058) [serial = 22] [outer = 0x0] > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > ++DOMWINDOW == 14 (0x200000004b7c4458) [serial = 23] [outer = 0x200000004b7c5000] > WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 > ++DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b7c2858) [serial = 24] [outer = 0x200000004b7c5000] > *** e = [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]" nsresult: "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line 326" data: no] > Bus error (core dumped) > > [1] Exit 138 firefox3 > > > Does the exception above shed any light on the origin > of crash? Another crash example, this time seems to be a different error: WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 5724 ++DOCSHELL 0x200000004b169000 == 8 ++DOMWINDOW == 15 (0x200000004b168c58) [serial = 17] [outer = 0x0] ++DOMWINDOW == 16 (0x200000004b167c58) [serial = 18] [outer = 0x200000004b168c00] WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(aURI) failed: file nsDefaultURIFixup.cpp, line 76 ++DOMWINDOW == 17 (0x20000000496f8058) [serial = 19] [outer = 0x200000004b168c00] Assertion failed: (p->id==SQLITE_MUTEX_RECURSIVE || pthreadMutexNotheld(p)), function pthreadMutexEnter, file sqlite3.c, line 14806. Abort trap (core dumped) [3] Exit 134 firefox3 -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:17:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93DE1065676 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA0B8FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:42 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,443,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="25586971" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 16:17:41 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 880F91B07E7; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:17:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:17:41 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: andrew clarke Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100210140307.GA38085@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem with `find -delete` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:43 -0000 *hehehe* right. that would have been the easiest solution. thanks a bunch. alex andrew clarke schrieb am 2010-02-10: > On Wed 2010-02-10 14:24:34 UTC+0100, Alexander Best > (alexbestms@wwu.de) wrote: > > thanks goes to jilles on #freebsd-bugbuster. he told me that > > -delete doesn't > > delete directories recursively. > > so what i'm bow using is > > sudo /usr/bin/find /usr/ports -name work -depth 3 -type d -exec rm > > -rf {} + > AFAIK another method is: > sudo rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:35:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD131065679 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@coder.cl) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5908FC17 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so134646gxk.3 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.157.1 with SMTP id j1mr389653ano.169.1265816123268; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from coder-cl.no-ip.org ([201.215.99.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm483640ywc.36.2010.02.10.07.35.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:21 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: http://coder.cl/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:35:12 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31-19-generic; KDE/4.3.5; i686; ; ) References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1559094.Tsozt1s48D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002101235.17641.dmw@coder.cl> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , Bill Moran Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@coder.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:35:24 -0000 --nextPart1559094.Tsozt1s48D Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 10 February 2010, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:05:36AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > > > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > > > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > > > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > > > directory for a simple browsing. > > > > > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > > > I was wondering if there is someting like > > > this already available from ports. I couldn't > > > find anything suitable. > > > > You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability > > and Apache will create those files on-demand. >=20 > I see.. I need to talk to the web server guys then. Also you can try WebDAV modules and clients ;) >=20 > thank you > anton >=20 Best regards, =2D-=20 Daniel Molina Wegener Software Architect, System Programmer & Web Developer Phone: +1 (510) 629-4267 | Blog: http://coder.cl/ --nextPart1559094.Tsozt1s48D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCgAGBQJLctIwAAoJEHxqfq6Y4O5Ny7oP/0td/ChYdkJ9yl4Z1NmpSZdA AOPoRR9zQdMRUVu0c7y6zmTUolyEXiZUWd5VAyeWeD5d66cTsycZ7ZuwZmrUTW0W byEGMHAgrJVyC5hvbGSyTKIegQZl8t3yq9hWjgHmD7zVFBFjtOBh/fORicd0rUxC zb7V48TttG8ca4SGoCACrLy8dwwVC+ORXLeRuG2ZijPOrIeehlIoQPMJGE4FxXjf Bo+IG6UIZCNTBdPcbIAnI6o+Wwm4LBJ6vY+Yka9Ug9DPhternYjzmpGB3TGKV3Xi uIBgXUeyFlwBCkkULKMGiC5F8biTtd2s2QXN4UkvJ9W4OnsJ3NYGfCQSlTE4kYRM Nyp8Z3+PK5zMmNh6pUOn6Nab5/pHYZVMKVv8sn8IPtzDOu4X/6fkcqiSezHIw4IJ 4S42HccjmOOHPt6sWI9mJ2cZbwUll5DmjaQELRUALAFqtKmRq8dJgIYZzzmGNN5L RokMKSnwp46xZJ58ZdTY13SqFRb4ZrmTtVaLdduaulFklJdjw4woUzeU0VWIIKdE 9ioCZMjylMq+i5tbgtORcsHI1OOemxtVxn4R2cs9rL263aZcSkq42/hbnTbzt0Cb hyNjQoCnWl624idgyvPgS1ascHD8pgLZD/GCtPz+zfT/PrHPeLFSnULnxeRjj/ws 2h/eYUwGpI5Zuy3dT8dH =dJ/S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1559094.Tsozt1s48D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 15:54:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D64106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD65D8FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 10:54:37 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QMK78557; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 10:54:34 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19314.54969.373080.869764@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:54:33 -0500 To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:54:39 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > > > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > > > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > > > directory for a simple browsing. > > > > > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > > > I was wondering if there is someting like > > > this already available from ports. I couldn't > > > find anything suitable. > > > > You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability and > > Apache will create those files on-demand. > > I see.. I need to talk to the web server guys then. The magic phrase is: IndexOptions FancyIndexing This can also be put in .htaccess; whether or not that file is honored is up to the server. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 16:27:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C106E1065672 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528BC8FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i36so41324gve.39 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:27:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6NJo+ePHIIElZ7Bh4TN/CVpo0nmRfLCvDb/M3cKfqDg=; b=K97y53rHWni2U2SKdvou7ok489SdFq7snT6wlme08VAq3g+qH9X54c8RfCkiszDsIT +5W8M8Mks6GjAC/6xdEiKMrUJzL5Kvz26rhN1tdFIIuJ5GaGqsS8rA86B7VMT5dvO5cO 50ydRu5B00anetlMcZrcgee7/aL1dEPDmFCws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PS9LQIvrkZYrU4uLvf+uLO6eTq/npYITUOUR67tKYaqBwESgoIlV5JnidJ/IJOMxMV mFZexHa3UdL6rK1+e/HadHpKkOfYRXrRzG4ArdJ0wTJUj1H9H1n+pju0bW1wvDyGkpFA ZWiF/I1UuUtcsQWN+jXao/QvD0cT024k2Rq54= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.193 with SMTP id j1mr44755hbc.154.1265819260807; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:27:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87hbpqz8wp.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> <87hbpqz8wp.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:27:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:27:42 -0000 On 9 February 2010 16:11, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:07 -0700, Chad Perrin > wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > >> > >> AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for > >> ports you'll install a compiler from ports. > > > > Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard > > that FreeBSD was moving to Clang. > > There are no concrete plans to ditch gcc from the base system. > > The GPLv3 license of GCC and binutils does pose a few interesting > problems. On the other hand, Clang is a nice project, whose license > *is* compatible with a BSD-style license. Several FreeBSD developers > have tried building the base system with it and are active at the > development forums of Clang. > > So it's probably a safe assumption to make that Clang is not ready > *yet*, but may be an interesting alternative to GCC in the near future. > > I believe that CLANG will generate quicker code as well from what I have read about it. Which will be nice From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 16:37:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883A11065672 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4466D8FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfFZe-0006Jh-4a; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:58 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfFZd-0000wt-OS; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:57 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AGbvv3059503; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:57 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AGbub6059502; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:56 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:56 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Daniel Molina Wegener Message-ID: <20100210163756.GJ58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201002101235.17641.dmw@coder.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201002101235.17641.dmw@coder.cl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:37:59 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:35:12PM -0300, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: > On Wednesday 10 February 2010, > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:05:36AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > > > > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > > > > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > > > > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > > > > directory for a simple browsing. > > > > > > > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > > > > I was wondering if there is someting like > > > > this already available from ports. I couldn't > > > > find anything suitable. > > > > > > You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability > > > and Apache will create those files on-demand. > > > > I see.. I need to talk to the web server guys then. > > Also you can try WebDAV modules and clients ;) After a quick read on wikipedia, I think it's very unlikely the web server guys will be happy with this, from the security point of view. Anyway, thanks for the idea, now I know. anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 16:59:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BE51065679 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2185E8FC0A for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so40033fgg.13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:59:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.86.211 with SMTP id w61mr292797wee.6.1265821172375; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:59:32 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [136.2.1.153] In-Reply-To: <20100210163756.GJ58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201002101235.17641.dmw@coder.cl> <20100210163756.GJ58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:59:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0625171018026071 Message-ID: <795fc2b81002100859s2bba2d61nec5c85524dc248bc@mail.gmail.com> From: Nathan Vidican To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Daniel Molina Wegener , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:35 -0000 Could do something simple with a Perl script as such: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; my @filenames = `ls`; print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; print "See the list below, click an item to open it:
\n\n"; foreach my $F (@files) { print "
  • $F
    • \n"; } print "\n"; # EOF You could, of course, get much fancier as it goes - but that's the quick and dirty of doing it with a simple cgi script anyways. -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:35:12PM -0300, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 February 2010, > > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:05:36AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > > > > > I'd like to upload a directory structure to a web > > > > > server. I'd like to create in each subdirectory > > > > > an index.html with a simple list of files in this > > > > > directory for a simple browsing. > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like a perl or shell script, but > > > > > I was wondering if there is someting like > > > > > this already available from ports. I couldn't > > > > > find anything suitable. > > > > > > > > You could just turn on Apache's built-in directory listing capability > > > > and Apache will create those files on-demand. > > > > > > I see.. I need to talk to the web server guys then. > > > > Also you can try WebDAV modules and clients ;) > > After a quick read on wikipedia, > I think it's very unlikely the web server guys will > be happy with this, from the security point of view. > > Anyway, thanks for the idea, now I know. > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 17:35:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D33106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com (mail-qy0-f189.google.com [209.85.221.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67ED8FC14 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so238133qyk.3 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:35:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lRtuFGyE1bIHCkTK0m5tX7fzqd/nSXbqW5P4vZ6FyDM=; b=RZNaZMOqU8wMXsebq9c/ki8pU76Y2/tdQ7RjdwWxVpSC3x79MqpLtOapXlZ25rn9Mo LvqWulp2A9vYya8RYOo6pRbxCiZlrtXLigMNt/E4twR4DZEuDre+8aq/fghxEbX/sgIW EH5qP48CG7cJto24P2CFbBEaWxscDQ5We6wNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fq7AA+dQJ7NPJlWbXelrKqUGTVRbCp+WbWG9/iA7hVLHB6yRBzhLU3VAqhbMp0O8ge cmg9qwP+cApzfnVT3hGzlhAmehZoQrkg4+/oOKKQSfuIPVXoL1Cb7hPYpUg27Kq14DM2 NLoZiE/mY/VWQv0PdrpcW4s/sVcTJTmWObWq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.71.14 with SMTP id f14mr315875qaj.154.1265823308637; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:35:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100210050518.GA64193@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100210050518.GA64193@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:35:08 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: curl question - not exactly on-topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:35:10 -0000 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 21:05, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 09), Kurt Buff said: >> Actually, it's not merely a curl question, it's a "curl and squid" >> question. >> >> I'm trying to determine the cause of a major slowdown in web browsing on >> our network, so I've put curl on the squid box, and am using the followi= ng >> incantations to see if I can determine the cause of the slowdown: >> >> =C2=A0 curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null = http://www.example.com >> >> and >> >> =C2=A0 curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null = -x 192.168.1.72 http://www.example.com >> >> The problem arises with the second version, which uses the proxy. The >> first incantation just returns the times, which is exactly what I want. >> >> However, when I use the -x parameter, to use the proxy, I get html >> returned as well as the times, which is a pain to separate out. > > Your problem is what's after -w. =C2=A0You want one argument: > "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n", not two. =C2=A0With your original = command, > "%{time_namelookup}\n" is treated as another URL to fetch. =C2=A0With no = proxy > option, curl realizes it's not an url immediately and skips to the next > argument on the commandline - http://www.example.com. =C2=A0With a proxy,= curl > has to send each url to the proxy for processing. =C2=A0The proxy probabl= y > returns a "400 Bad Request" error on the first (invalid) url, which is > redirected to /dev/null. =C2=A0The next url doesn't have another -o so it= falls > back to printing to stdout. > > Adding -v to the curl commandline will help you diagnose problems like th= is. Thanks for that, though it's unfortunate. I would really like a better understanding of the times, to help further diagnose the problem, and 'man curl' says that multiple invocations of '-w' will result in the last one winning, which I've verified. Do you have any suggestions for a way to get the timing of these operations without resorting to tcpdump? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 17:54:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E380B106566B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6758FC0A for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAIaBckvUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACaY3S9DIRVBA Received: from pih-relay08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2010 17:53:59 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NfGlD-0001hF-Hn; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:53:59 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NfGlD-0001Ih-6j; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:53:59 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:53:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201002061511.11639.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <201002062328.27744.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4B6EA394.5050604@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4B6EA394.5050604@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002101753.59159.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: c8f3c6ea7ba53d420ff80c37b184613e Cc: Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: Detecting cards in USB card reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:54:02 -0000 On Sunday 07 February 2010, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > While it may feel dangerous, is perfectly safe. There is no > way doing an IO operation on a disk-like device using requests > othen than multiplies of the physical block which currently is > 512 bytes. Opening the disk for writing and trying to do a > write request, will just force GEOM to re-examine the device. > > > lab# echo asd | cat > /dev/da0 > > cat: stdout: Invalid argument > > failed > > > lab# echo > /dev/da0 > > lab# echo $? > > 1 > > failed > > > lab# /bin/echo asd > /dev/da0 > > /bin/echo: write: Invalid argument > > failed > > Closer look: > > lab# truss sh -c "echo > /dev/da0" > > snip > > > open("/dev/da0",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC,0666) = 2 (0x2) > > dup2(0x2,0x1,0x1b6,0x1000008,0x2830d040,0x2830235c) = 1 (0x1) > > close(2) = 0 (0x0) > > write(1,"\n",1) ERR#22 'Invalid > > argument' > > failed > > FreeBSD lost the ability of doing such transparent > transformations when the support for block devices > went away. > > Yes, I know, it feels awkward. > > Apparently, you can easily drop the support for block > devices but not the habitual feeling of danger of UNIX > tradition. Thanks for the enlightening information. Although I didn't doubt that this was safe I couldn't help feeling that it seemed "a wrong thing to do" - a case of old habits being hard to loose. After seeing your explanation I feel much more confident about this. It does seem a pity though that we have to rely on the side effect of having no support for writing to block devices instead of having a specific means of detecting or checking for a media change in the card reader. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 18:03:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96511065676 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2158FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o1AI3TZZ066480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AI3TUp003413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AI3Tci003412; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:29 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Kurt Buff Message-ID: <20100210180329.GA9318@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100210050518.GA64193@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:30 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curl question - not exactly on-topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:03:31 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 10), Kurt Buff said: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 21:05, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Feb 09), Kurt Buff said: > >> Actually, it's not merely a curl question, it's a "curl and squid" > >> question. > >> > >> I'm trying to determine the cause of a major slowdown in web browsing on > >> our network, so I've put curl on the squid box, and am using the following > >> incantations to see if I can determine the cause of the slowdown: > >> > >>   curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null http://www.example.com > >> > >> and > >> > >>   curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/null -x 192.168.1.72 http://www.example.com > >> > >> The problem arises with the second version, which uses the proxy. The > >> first incantation just returns the times, which is exactly what I want. > >> > >> However, when I use the -x parameter, to use the proxy, I get html > >> returned as well as the times, which is a pain to separate out. > > > > Your problem is what's after -w.  You want one argument: > > "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n", not two.  With your original > > command, "%{time_namelookup}\n" is treated as another URL to fetch. > > With no proxy option, curl realizes it's not an url immediately and > > skips to the next argument on the commandline - http://www.example.com. > > With a proxy, curl has to send each url to the proxy for processing. > > The proxy probably returns a "400 Bad Request" error on the first > > (invalid) url, which is redirected to /dev/null.  The next url doesn't > > have another -o so it falls back to printing to stdout. > > > > Adding -v to the curl commandline will help you diagnose problems like > > this. > > Thanks for that, though it's unfortunate. > > I would really like a better understanding of the times, to help further > diagnose the problem, and 'man curl' says that multiple invocations of > '-w' will result in the last one winning, which I've verified. > > Do you have any suggestions for a way to get the timing of these > operations without resorting to tcpdump? Does -w "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n" not do what you want? There are a bunch of other time_* variables you could add, too. Also, there's nothing wrong with tcpdump (or wireshark). If your traffic passes through multiple proxies or content-analyzing firewalls, you can run multiple simultaneous tcpdumps, one on each interface. Then you can run your curl command, and compare the traces side-by-side and see if any servers are taking longer than expected to forward the data. If you have a managed switch, you might even be able to configure a "monitor" port that will forward all traffic it sees to that port, and you can run just one tcpdump and see the same packet multiple times as it passes from server to server. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 18:36:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4160106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com (mail-qy0-f189.google.com [209.85.221.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99D38FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so298507qyk.3 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F5ljpxaSzyec1vNMjf8WlHemCcJgqxZdy3amhHBONxI=; b=v+hzD5ljlG8X9vC4ORPnDbpj35aRPBUQyYpvg5vH04tjZP5eWrblxXm2dSaEYotErz txt+8gRv6vSG5fdanoHsQZrjE1G/9/Wh39yZRL6RIsHhnhK3Y6sNJY32rq9FW25GFcTB fTfPAK5pA7hp+w5FDW1mfisF2uGE1B52wZTFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZS9gU1eeKXXLySNBUuXNkKwrIpSeSTX4cHKsRtuyvZfjm5CndTfkBhBlqPucpFeYfM VZUdrSx+khX/THRE34hmrU4ZjI0ktB7fQVgULgatmI9IpCUrYiLMcFGe5NhLvjAb13Mc T9758mrFsyj2ibR2+j1egAlH6RHlo1qKHMykA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.16.200 with SMTP id p8mr370988qaa.176.1265827002792; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100210180329.GA9318@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100210050518.GA64193@dan.emsphone.com> <20100210180329.GA9318@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:36:42 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: curl question - not exactly on-topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:36:44 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:03, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 10), Kurt Buff said: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 21:05, Dan Nelson wrote= : >> > In the last episode (Feb 09), Kurt Buff said: >> >> Actually, it's not merely a curl question, it's a "curl and squid" >> >> question. >> >> >> >> I'm trying to determine the cause of a major slowdown in web browsing= on >> >> our network, so I've put curl on the squid box, and am using the foll= owing >> >> incantations to see if I can determine the cause of the slowdown: >> >> >> >> =C2=A0 curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/nu= ll http://www.example.com >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> =C2=A0 curl -s -w "%{time_total}\n" "%{time_namelookup}\n" -o /dev/nu= ll -x 192.168.1.72 http://www.example.com >> >> >> >> The problem arises with the second version, which uses the proxy. The >> >> first incantation just returns the times, which is exactly what I wan= t. >> >> >> >> However, when I use the -x parameter, to use the proxy, I get html >> >> returned as well as the times, which is a pain to separate out. >> > >> > Your problem is what's after -w. =C2=A0You want one argument: >> > "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n", not two. =C2=A0=C2=A0With your = original >> > command, "%{time_namelookup}\n" is treated as another URL to fetch. >> > With no proxy option, curl realizes it's not an url immediately and >> > skips to the next argument on the commandline - http://www.example.com= . >> > With a proxy, curl has to send each url to the proxy for processing. >> > The proxy probably returns a "400 Bad Request" error on the first >> > (invalid) url, which is redirected to /dev/null. =C2=A0=C2=A0The next = url doesn't >> > have another -o so it falls back to printing to stdout. >> > >> > Adding -v to the curl commandline will help you diagnose problems like >> > this. >> >> Thanks for that, though it's unfortunate. >> >> I would really like a better understanding of the times, to help further >> diagnose the problem, and 'man curl' says that multiple invocations of >> '-w' will result in the last one winning, which I've verified. >> >> Do you have any suggestions for a way to get the timing of these >> operations without resorting to tcpdump? > > Does -w "%{time_total}\n%{time_namelookup}\n" not do what you want? =C2= =A0There > are a bunch of other time_* variables you could add, too. > > Also, there's nothing wrong with tcpdump (or wireshark). =C2=A0If your tr= affic > passes through multiple proxies or content-analyzing firewalls, you can r= un > multiple simultaneous tcpdumps, one on each interface. =C2=A0Then you can= run > your curl command, and compare the traces side-by-side and see if any > servers are taking longer than expected to forward the data. =C2=A0If you= have a > managed switch, you might even be able to configure a "monitor" port that > will forward all traffic it sees to that port, and you can run just one > tcpdump and see the same packet multiple times as it passes from server t= o > server. Sigh. A failure of imagination on my part. Putting multiple parameters inside a single set of quote marks works exactly as I need. Nothing wrong with wireshark/tcpdump, but I'm not nearly as competent with them as I'd like to be, and curl offers a pretty easy way to break out the timing of various parts of the conversation - in particular the name resolution vs. the rest of the conversation for any given transaction. I do indeed have monitor ports set up on my switches, and use them to feed ntop, with an occasional tcpdump capture to figure out problems. If it comes to that, I'll get those traces and work on the comparisons as you suggest. However, given what I've seen so far, I'm looking at my firewall as being the culprit, and further testing with curl should give me the [dis]confirmation I need. Thanks ever so much for your help. Greatly appreciated. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 20:06:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7112106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397478FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AK6Cjp016668; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1AK6CPu016665; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <201002101753.59159.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <201002061511.11639.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <201002062328.27744.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4B6EA394.5050604@gmx.com> <201002101753.59159.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: Detecting cards in USB card reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:06:13 -0000 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Mike Clarke wrote: > It does seem a pity though that we have to rely on the side effect of > having no support for writing to block devices instead of having a > specific means of detecting or checking for a media change in the card > reader. I agree that attempting a write to an unsuspecting device to signal a media change just looks wrong. usbconfig -d 3.3 reset seemed to work with my Sandisk card reader just now. This is still a side effect, but doesn't look as bad. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:10:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB2F106568D for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C92E8FC22 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D686AB6C6F for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:07:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:10:50 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:10:56 -0000 Hi, I would like to create a boot CD using FreeBSD 8.0 but I just noticed that there is no existing boot.flp file for 8.0. What is the alternative to get a boot image to create my CD image? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:35:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88C7106568F for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148308FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4556921.home.otenet.gr [94.70.84.129]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o1ALZH26019322; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:35:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:35:17 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:35:20 -0000 On 10/02/2010 11:10 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to create a boot CD using FreeBSD 8.0 but I just noticed > that there is no existing boot.flp file for 8.0. What is the > alternative to get a boot image to create my CD image? > > Thanks! You just use the boot/cdboot file from the official CD/DVD, like this (to write to a DVD) growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -speed 16 -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 path-to-your-files or use mkisofs with similar options to write an iso image, i.e. mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -o /path/to/your.iso path-to-your-files From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:39:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AD9106568B for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC878FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54186AB6C90; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:36:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:39:33 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:39:35 -0000 Great Thanks! So when I create a boot CD using the boot image, are the kernel files contained in /boot/kernel read at all during boot? Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 10/02/2010 11:10 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to create a boot CD using FreeBSD 8.0 but I just noticed >> that there is no existing boot.flp file for 8.0. What is the >> alternative to get a boot image to create my CD image? >> >> Thanks! >> > > You just use the boot/cdboot file from the official CD/DVD, like this > (to write to a DVD) > > growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -speed 16 -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot > -iso-level 3 path-to-your-files > > or use mkisofs with similar options to write an iso image, i.e. > > mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -o > /path/to/your.iso path-to-your-files > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:41:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCC01065670 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BE28FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F39EB48C3; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40732160CAF; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:14 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jx5YCHIcXVAs; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-250-36.home.otenet.gr [94.64.250.36]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075C5160C86; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1ALfDY3052776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1ALfCOX052761; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:41:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> (Manolis Kiagias's message of "Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:35:17 +0200") Message-ID: <87tytoepl3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Pierre-Luc Drouin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:41:16 -0000 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:35:17 +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrot= e: >On 10/02/2010 11:10 =CE=BC.=CE=BC., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >> I would like to create a boot CD using FreeBSD 8.0 but I just noticed >> that there is no existing boot.flp file for 8.0. What is the >> alternative to get a boot image to create my CD image? > > You just use the boot/cdboot file from the official CD/DVD, like this > (to write to a DVD) FWIW, cdboot is also available at /boot of an already installed system and it's built as part of the buildworld process, so you don't really need to download a CD or DVD image to get it: % ls -l /boot/cd* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1201 Feb 6 01:33 /boot/cdboot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:56:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB6A1065693 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE988FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4A6AB6C8E; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:53:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B732B7C.6000102@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:56:12 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:56:15 -0000 I just realized that cdboot does not contain the kernel as boot.flp used to, so I guess /boot/kernel has to be there... So it does not seem to work with mkisofs. I did mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b ./cdboot -iso-level 3 -V FreeBSD_Custom -o custom_FreeBSD_8_0_i386_cd.iso custom_FreeBSD_8_0_i386_cd and it throws: mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image './cdboot' I tried with the absolute path for cdboot and it does not help either. From the mkisofs man page it says that -no-emul-boot has to be added if the size of the image file is not 1200, 1440, or 2880 kB. I noticed that the cdboot file is only 1.2 kB, so I guess -no-emul-boot is required... Do you have an idea what could be wrong? Thanks! Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > Great Thanks! So when I create a boot CD using the boot image, are the > kernel files contained in /boot/kernel read at all during boot? > > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> On 10/02/2010 11:10 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to create a boot CD using FreeBSD 8.0 but I just noticed >>> that there is no existing boot.flp file for 8.0. What is the >>> alternative to get a boot image to create my CD image? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >> >> You just use the boot/cdboot file from the official CD/DVD, like this >> (to write to a DVD) >> >> growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -speed 16 -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot >> -iso-level 3 path-to-your-files >> >> or use mkisofs with similar options to write an iso image, i.e. >> >> mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -o >> /path/to/your.iso path-to-your-files >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:00:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E971106568F for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF248FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4556921.home.otenet.gr [94.70.84.129]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o1AM0JIs006200; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:00:19 +0200 Message-ID: <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:00:18 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:00:21 -0000 On 10/02/2010 11:39 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > Great Thanks! So when I create a boot CD using the boot image, are the > kernel files contained in /boot/kernel read at all during boot? > How exactly are you creating your image? The basic directories in a FreeBSD install iso are 'boot' (containing the kernel that will be used for the CD boot) and a directory with the name of the release e.g. 7.2-RELEASE. If you wish to include packages they should be in a 'packages' directory on the root of the CD. If live functionality is required (FreeBSD livefs CD) there are more directories, essentially resembling the structure of an installed base system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:07:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B48106568D for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423DD8FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4556921.home.otenet.gr [94.70.84.129]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o1AM7Ew7014000; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:07:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4B732E12.5060408@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:07:14 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> <4B732B7C.6000102@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B732B7C.6000102@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:07:16 -0000 On 10/02/2010 11:56 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > I just realized that cdboot does not contain the kernel as boot.flp > used to, so I guess /boot/kernel has to be there... So it does not > seem to work with mkisofs. I did > > mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b ./cdboot -iso-level 3 -V FreeBSD_Custom > -o custom_FreeBSD_8_0_i386_cd.iso custom_FreeBSD_8_0_i386_cd > > and it throws: > mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image './cdboot' > > I tried with the absolute path for cdboot and it does not help either. > From the mkisofs man page it says that -no-emul-boot has to be added > if the size of the image file is not 1200, 1440, or 2880 kB. I noticed > that the cdboot file is only 1.2 kB, so I guess -no-emul-boot is > required... Do you have an idea what could be wrong? > > Thanks! > No need to specify an absolute path - the path you are using for the files is used. Here is another example: Assuming your files are in my_cd_files (and there is a boot/cdboot directory structure in there): mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -V FreeBSD_Custom -o custom-freebsd.iso my_cd_files or you could even do: cd my_cd_files mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -V FreeBSD_Custom -o ../custom-freebsd.iso . (note the dot at the end) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:08:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C62B1065697 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8348FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D7AB6C64; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:05:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B732E49.4010504@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:08:09 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:08:11 -0000 What I am trying to do is basically to install FreeBSD 8.0 on a CD. I followed these instructions to install FreeBSD on a USB stick: http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 minus the fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs part . I just set up rc.conf to configure the ethernet interface with DHCP and load sshd then I am now creating an iso image with the boot image. So at the root of the CD I will have the boot directory containing the kernel subdirectory. I figured out about the boot image error from mkisofs. I had to copy cdboot into the actual boot directory for the image and the path specified by the -b option is relative to the root directory of the CD... So should this work according to you? Thanks! Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 10/02/2010 11:39 ÎŒ.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >> Great Thanks! So when I create a boot CD using the boot image, are the >> kernel files contained in /boot/kernel read at all during boot? >> >> > > How exactly are you creating your image? > The basic directories in a FreeBSD install iso are 'boot' (containing > the kernel that will be used for the CD boot) and a directory with the > name of the release e.g. 7.2-RELEASE. If you wish to include packages > they should be in a 'packages' directory on the root of the CD. If live > functionality is required (FreeBSD livefs CD) there are more > directories, essentially resembling the structure of an installed base > system. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:14:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241681065676 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824188FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4556921.home.otenet.gr [94.70.84.129]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o1AMEGrb021317; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:14:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4B732FB8.1090002@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:14:16 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> <4B732E49.4010504@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B732E49.4010504@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:14:19 -0000 On 11/02/2010 12:08 π.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > What I am trying to do is basically to install FreeBSD 8.0 on a CD. I > followed these instructions to install FreeBSD on a USB stick: > > http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 > > > minus the fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs part . I just set up rc.conf to > configure the ethernet interface with DHCP and load sshd > > then I am now creating an iso image with the boot image. So at the > root of the CD I will have the boot directory containing the kernel > subdirectory. > > I figured out about the boot image error from mkisofs. I had to copy > cdboot into the actual boot directory for the image and the path > specified by the -b option is relative to the root directory of the CD... > > So should this work according to you? > > Thanks! > It is going to be an interesting experiment. The official install CD/DVDs boot from boot/kernel on the CD but the root filesystem used is actually in an mfs (memory disk). Also it executes sysinstall instead of init at the end of the boot sequence. I suppose you can mount the root filesystem from CD as read-only but you will have to handle things like /var and /usr and you will probably need some writing capability. I am sure this can be done in more than a few ways though I've never researched this myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:23:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18647106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96088FC1A for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F4BAB6C64; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:20:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B7331DF.4070600@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:23:27 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> <4B732E49.4010504@pldrouin.net> <4B732FB8.1090002@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B732FB8.1090002@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:23:30 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 11/02/2010 12:08 π.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >> What I am trying to do is basically to install FreeBSD 8.0 on a CD. I >> followed these instructions to install FreeBSD on a USB stick: >> >> http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 >> >> >> minus the fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs part . I just set up rc.conf to >> configure the ethernet interface with DHCP and load sshd >> >> then I am now creating an iso image with the boot image. So at the >> root of the CD I will have the boot directory containing the kernel >> subdirectory. >> >> I figured out about the boot image error from mkisofs. I had to copy >> cdboot into the actual boot directory for the image and the path >> specified by the -b option is relative to the root directory of the CD... >> >> So should this work according to you? >> >> Thanks! >> >> > > It is going to be an interesting experiment. The official install > CD/DVDs boot from boot/kernel on the CD but the root filesystem used is > actually in an mfs (memory disk). Also it executes sysinstall instead of > init at the end of the boot sequence. I suppose you can mount the root > filesystem from CD as read-only but you will have to handle things like > /var and /usr and you will probably need some writing capability. I am > sure this can be done in more than a few ways though I've never > researched this myself. > yes I did some checks and it seems that sysinstall is loaded via the mfsroot instruction in loader.conf that somehow loads /stand/boot_crunch in the mfsroot image. If I change the content of loader.conf I think it should behave like a regular installation (?). I have also written a special fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/iso9660/FreeBSD_Custom / cd9660 ro,noatime 0 0 md /etc_tmp mfs rw,-s4M,nosuid,noatime 0 0 /etc_tmp /etc nullfs rw 0 0 md /tmp mfs rw,-s16M,nosuid,noatime 0 0 md /var/run mfs rw,-s4M,nosuid,noatime 0 0 md /var/log mfs rw,-s16M,nosuid,noatime 0 0 /proc /proc procfs rw,noauto 0 0 /tmp /var/tmp nullfs rw 0 0 As you can see I do not have any hardcoded device name. I use the CD label, which is used by geom_label to create a device file in /dev/iso9660/. So in order to have geom_label loaded as early as possible I have added geom_label_load="YES" in loader.conf. I hope this will work... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:36:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BD610656B3 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03838FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfLAm-0002v2-OS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:36:40 +0100 Received: from pool-141-156-221-161.res.east.verizon.net ([141.156.221.161]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:36:40 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-221-161.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:36:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:36:30 -0500 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <20100208200444.GA58228@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-221-161.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Should root partition be first partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:36:45 -0000 b. f. wrote: > On 2/8/10, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 02:37:30PM -0500, b. f. wrote: [snip] >>> If you're laying out a new disk, you may as well take a few minutes >>> and get the most out of it, even if you're not going to invest in a >>> lot of new hardware. >> >> The system nowdays does all that figuring for you and manages >> boundaries reasonably. >> >> ////jerry >> > > That does not seem to be the conclusion of those who contributed to > the thread I cited, although "reasonably" is open to interpretation. This will become more critical with the upcoming transition from 512K to 4K sector size. Indeed, I believe it was initial investigations for implementation of this and/with comparison against other OS methods. The large performance differences witnessed led to a deeper, more retrospective look at current approaches based on 512K sectors as well. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 22:45:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA78910656CD for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F8D8FC25 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfLJC-00001Z-95; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:22 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NfLJB-0007T8-Jf; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:21 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1AMjL1v060438; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:21 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1AMjJU6060437; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:19 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:19 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Nathan Vidican Message-ID: <20100210224519.GP58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100210150330.GC58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100210100536.150614a1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20100210151102.GD58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201002101235.17641.dmw@coder.cl> <20100210163756.GJ58179@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <795fc2b81002100859s2bba2d61nec5c85524dc248bc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <795fc2b81002100859s2bba2d61nec5c85524dc248bc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Daniel Molina Wegener , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: creating htmls from a directory tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:24 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:59:32AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: > Could do something simple with a Perl script as such: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use strict; > my @filenames = `ls`; > > print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; > > print "See the list below, click an item to open it:
    \n\n"; > foreach my $F (@files) { > print "
  • $F
    • \n"; > } > print "    \n"; > > # EOF > > You could, of course, get much fancier as it goes - but that's the quick and > dirty of doing it with a simple cgi script anyways. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 23:33:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204BB1065724 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2B68FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so647162ewy.13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:33:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UnDt4UUutU15OAs5k3n/D7LwU4NyF1FsH6qIeZnXNys=; b=RGdM5A94TaPTdPWLufSGRBVay/0IzpAdd5Bx/vca5XM1f3IdBEPRsw4D7/CtBb7uLD a2JHtQDEBe7WtDXNFtVOSTAtkyawvRsOJ1QQjvOx/Rurfzh9Tktkt1uxXDDOfYeu0RjA r7CnQKc/uyOiL9d7/cKSynBFp5JRayzi8Itu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=ShEOusJ4cKRGgytWfwWntm1S0q+j+zme0J3gIXt2MdCtfEYeOOEiBM6l2QASUIDoog NeQxAia/VRrGTKbQVAVhamCCRmPl0BjBf2ZFz3TyCXapGiEYarc0pBuPUySv/gpUwrFN LMgHxR0l8VwDLdkFQEQhe/dR1lxNI9HYuJDms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.9 with SMTP id v9mr557174wee.148.1265844785572; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:33:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: riggs@rrr.de, ajtiM Subject: Re: openal-soft X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:33:07 -0000 >I did as UPDATING says and everything were look okay but when I update (big >update) the system "mplayer" complain that cannot install openALL because >openal-soft is installed. I went bacjk to the openALL and it is okay but my >question is it is possible to build mplayer with openal support and openal- >soft installed, please? This is not quite specific enough. Do you mean, can I use audio/openal with multimedia/mplayer, and audio/openal-soft with all of my other openal software? Or do you mean, can I use audio/openal-soft with all of my software, including multimedia/mplayer? The answer to the first question is "yes", but I don't think you will want to do this. Because audio/openal conflicts with audio/openal-soft, you would have to install audio/openal in a different PREFIX, and then patch the mplayer port to find and link with the audio/openal libraries, by changing the openal-related LIB_DEPENDS in mplayer, and either adding a hard-coded rpath directive to the mplayer binaries, or using libmap.conf(5) with mplayer constraints, or building statically-linked mplayer binaries, or always calling mplayer with directives like LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD, or using custom linker scripts in the place of the openal.so[.?]. It would be easier to just use audio/openal-soft with all of your software. This ought to work, because the openal-soft developer claims that openal-soft is compatible with the older openal: "This library is meant as a compatible update/replacement to the deprecated OpenAL Sample Implementation (the SI)." http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html and some other packaging systems have switched to using it with mplayer (Debian, for example). However, I haven't tested this, so you will have to try it and see if it works. To do this, remove audio/openal, install audio/openal-soft, change any WANT_OPENAL settings to "soft", patch mplayer's Makefile.options: --- Makefile.options.orig 2010-02-10 17:43:54.000000000 -0500 +++ Makefile.options 2010-02-10 17:50:27.000000000 -0500 @@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ .endif .if defined(WITH_OPENAL) -LIB_DEPENDS+= openal.0:${PORTSDIR}/audio/openal +USE_OPENAL= soft .else CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --disable-openal .endif (the whitespace in that patch will probably need to be fixed) and then rebuild mplayer. If this works, you should contact the mplayer maintainer, and ask him to switch the port over to the new USE_OPENAL framework, and to prefer the newer openal-soft, which is now the default. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 02:44:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A02D106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61248FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1B2iLuH002659 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:44:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201002110244.o1B2iLuH002659@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:44:21 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: sysinstall and mfs Great News and another Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:44:38 -0000 J65nko writes: > IMHO it is easier to to install FreeBSD without using sysinstall at all. > > See the "FreeBSD Install Without Sysinstall" guide at > http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=1538 This looks very possible with a couple of changes. Am I right in my reading of the man page of mdconfig that the memory disk image will gobble up at least as much RAM as the image, itself? In this case, that's about 600 times more than I have available. mfsbsd seems as solid as a rock as long as you don't do something that needs lots of buffer space as there is only about a megabyte or two left over. tar works fine and I can copy either an iso image or a tar ball made from the file system over to the newly-formatted drive where it can be unpacked. It may be necessary to run chroot /mnt so as not to munch mfs when running the install.sh scripts but I think this should install the system. I really have given up on sysinstall for this purpose. It is hard to script and it appears that if you use the custom installation, you almost get a system but the effort is hardly worth it. One still has to install the kernel and many of the configuration files like /etc/rc.conf. I don't know why but another artickel I read on remote installation of FreeBSD that uses sysinstall describes this so I know it isn't just me doing something stupid. I feel kind of stupid spending almost 3 weeks finding out what doesn't work. When using mfsbsd, one already has enough information in the interface configuration and resolv.conf to populate /etc/rc.conf, /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf to match the present network configuration. The local time zone is a copy of one of the rule sets for computing time placed as /etc/localtime. In the middle of the United States, it is /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago copied, not linked, to /etc/localtime. The goal is to run the script I will build under mfsbsd and then boot the system in working order as if it had been installed via sysinstall by someone sitting at a console. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 03:07:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89D91065679 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70358FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83FCAB6C1A; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:04:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B73746A.1080105@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:07:22 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4B7320DA.2080606@pldrouin.net> <4B732695.5080701@otenet.gr> <4B732795.70702@pldrouin.net> <4B732C72.1050806@otenet.gr> <4B732E49.4010504@pldrouin.net> <4B732FB8.1090002@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B732FB8.1090002@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a FreeBSD 8.0 boot CD without boot.flp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:07:26 -0000 So I just tested the CD and it works perfectly. It boots, automatically configure the interface and launches the SSH daemon. For me this is the perfect tool to perform remote installations/fixing of FreeBSD. I just send the compressed 100 MB ISO image to someone, have him to boot the machine using the CD and then I log on the machine with SSH and do whatever I want. The only thing I had to do in addition to what I mentioned in my previous emails is to create a script in rc.d that runs just after root and that does the following: mount /etc_tmp #Mount memory disk to /etc_tmp cd /etc_tmp && tar -cp -C /etc -f - ./ | tar -xpf - #Copy content of /etc to /etc_tmp mount /etc #nullfs mount /etc_tmp over /etc Obviously I have also changed the root password and created a user that is a member of the wheel group. Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 11/02/2010 12:08 π.ÎŒ., Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >> What I am trying to do is basically to install FreeBSD 8.0 on a CD. I >> followed these instructions to install FreeBSD on a USB stick: >> >> http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 >> >> >> minus the fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs part . I just set up rc.conf to >> configure the ethernet interface with DHCP and load sshd >> >> then I am now creating an iso image with the boot image. So at the >> root of the CD I will have the boot directory containing the kernel >> subdirectory. >> >> I figured out about the boot image error from mkisofs. I had to copy >> cdboot into the actual boot directory for the image and the path >> specified by the -b option is relative to the root directory of the CD... >> >> So should this work according to you? >> >> Thanks! >> >> > > It is going to be an interesting experiment. The official install > CD/DVDs boot from boot/kernel on the CD but the root filesystem used is > actually in an mfs (memory disk). Also it executes sysinstall instead of > init at the end of the boot sequence. I suppose you can mount the root > filesystem from CD as read-only but you will have to handle things like > /var and /usr and you will probably need some writing capability. I am > sure this can be done in more than a few ways though I've never > researched this myself. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 03:15:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0220B106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from midwest-admin@asu.org) Received: from server1.asu.org (asu.org [209.61.189.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06968FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.asu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.asu.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.6) with ESMTP id o1B2e7Pb011410 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0600 Message-Id: <201002110240.o1B2e7Pb011410@server1.asu.org> From: midwest-admin@asu.org To: questions@freebsd.org X-Ack: no Sender: midwest-admin@asu.org Errors-To: midwest-admin@asu.org X-BeenThere: midwest@asu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Cc: Subject: Your message to Midwest awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:15:29 -0000 Your mail to 'Midwest' with the subject Status Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 03:40:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A41A106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from mail.pil.net (ns3.pil.net [209.17.170.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7BF18FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26457 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2010 22:40:24 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2010 22:40:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:40:24 -0500 (EST) From: James Smallacombe X-X-Sender: up@mail.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Mac address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:40:32 -0000 This freaked me out a bit, so I'm just running it past the list to make sure this is just a hardware issue...I've never seen it before. My dedicated server provider replaced my defective server that had been up for 6 months after it had apparent failures of a NIC and hard drives. It had also recently been the victim of the Zen Cart exploits (I posted about this not long ago). Tonight I lost connectivity to it, got in via KVM/IP and saw this in the syslog: Feb 10 20:42:51 mail kernel: arp: 209.17.170.1 moved from 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 on re0 My first reaction was that somebody else on the LAN had used my IP address, which would have explained the connectivity issues. However, the IP couldn't be pinged and I also noticed that only one number in the address had changed...the odds of somebody else having it were long. ifconfig showed the I/F down, no carrier. I rebooted and then it came up with yet a third MAC address, 00:14:d1:3c:1e:31 Not really even close. Still no carrier. Provider swaps out the Realtek NIC for a new one and it's working (for now). Questions that come to mind: could their be a DoS perhaps from a bot or c99shell I didn't find? Even if their was, would it be possible for the "www" user, with no priveleges to even cause this kind of problem? I had disabled suhosin after customers patched their Zen Carts, because it interfered with it. Or...could this be a bug in the re0 driver? It's just weird. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 04:14:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A951E106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from mail.pil.net (ns3.pil.net [209.17.170.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89B718FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44552 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2010 23:14:55 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2010 23:14:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: James Smallacombe X-X-Sender: up@mail.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Mac address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:14:59 -0000 Please disregard this...sleep deprication...the IP in questions (which I should have disfuised anyway) was not my server's IP, but that of the default gateway...the problem was external. On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, James Smallacombe wrote: > > This freaked me out a bit, so I'm just running it past the list to make sure > this is just a hardware issue...I've never seen it before. > > My dedicated server provider replaced my defective server that had been up > for 6 months after it had apparent failures of a NIC and hard drives. It had > also recently been the victim of the Zen Cart exploits (I posted about this > not long ago). > > Tonight I lost connectivity to it, got in via KVM/IP and saw this in the > syslog: > > Feb 10 20:42:51 mail kernel: arp: 209.17.170.1 moved from 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 > to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 on re0 > > My first reaction was that somebody else on the LAN had used my IP address, > which would have explained the connectivity issues. However, the IP couldn't > be pinged and I also noticed that only one number in the address had > changed...the odds of somebody else having it were long. ifconfig showed the > I/F down, no carrier. > > I rebooted and then it came up with yet a third MAC address, > 00:14:d1:3c:1e:31 Not really even close. Still no carrier. Provider swaps > out the Realtek NIC for a new one and it's working (for now). > > Questions that come to mind: could their be a DoS perhaps from a bot or > c99shell I didn't find? Even if their was, would it be possible for the > "www" user, with no priveleges to even cause this kind of problem? I had > disabled suhosin after customers patched their Zen Carts, because it > interfered with it. > > Or...could this be a bug in the re0 driver? It's just weird. > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 21:51:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB361065672 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ALandry@csnstores.com) Received: from outmail.csnstores.com (outmail.csnstores.com [209.202.142.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F9168FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pony.csnzoo.com (unknown [192.168.6.11]) by outmail.csnstores.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E54C228EC for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kite.csnzoo.com (kite.csnzoo.com [192.168.6.38]) by pony.csnzoo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA268FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from KITE.csnzoo.com ([192.168.6.38]) by kite.csnzoo.com ([192.168.6.38]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:32:43 -0500 From: Adam Landry To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:32:42 -0500 Thread-Topic: FBSD - Listen on IP Block Thread-Index: AcqqmJOOOZeoZKFiRNiIzl9QOwc1yA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:22:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FBSD - Listen on IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:51:29 -0000 Is it possible to have freebsd 8 listen on a complete IP range? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 04:28:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FBB1065672 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382838FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (emlpfilt2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDFA50842; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:27:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 17E7E2F80A4; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:28:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054AE2F80A3; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:28:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); 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Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:05:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:05:04 +0800 Message-ID: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> From: Lin Taosheng To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:31:15 -0000 Hi all, Is that possible to implementated? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 05:18:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879E7106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B848FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2010 00:18:31 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QMO43864; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2010 00:18:31 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:18:30 -0500 To: Lin Taosheng In-Reply-To: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:18:32 -0000 Lin Taosheng writes: > Is that possible to implementated? For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad Idea. As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to accomplish your objective: would you care to share? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 05:23:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DCC106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E408FC24 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6167AEB4897; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417C8160C9A; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:25 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uq-FFIVDh4HN; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-253-130.home.otenet.gr [94.64.253.130]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CD6160C97; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1B5NOa8033894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1B5NN0Y033891; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Huff References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:23:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (Robert Huff's message of "Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:18:30 -0500") Message-ID: <874olocpmc.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Lin Taosheng , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:23:26 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:18:30 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >Lin Taosheng writes: >> Is that possible to implementated? > > For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, > but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, > create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad > Idea. > > As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" > account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other > hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to > accomplish your objective: would you care to share? The kernel doesn't really care what your user *name* is. See for example the 'toor user in '/etc/master.passwd'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 05:31:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCBC106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAE88FC1C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NfReJ-0006cy-Rl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:31:35 -0800 Message-ID: <27542585.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:31:35 -0800 (PST) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: cannot start VirtualBox-3.1.2 ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:31:36 -0000 VirtualBox works great under FreeBSD-8.0 using the `GENERIC` kernel. Today i customize the kernel using a copy of /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC. I havenot changed anything except its name modified as `MYKERNEL`. After `buildkernel` and `installkernel`, the new kernel works well. However, when running `VirtualBox` from roxterm, VirtualBox doesnot show its window without any output . I have to use `Ctrl+C` to stop virtualbox ! Why doesnot VirtualBox work using `MYKERNEL` ? ----- fac n = let { f = foldr (*) 1 [1..n] } in f -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/cannot-start-VirtualBox-3.1.2-%21-tp27542585p27542585.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 05:33:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6A71065679 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4D78FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so274775vws.13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=WfLtKTEJZyDQUoH/usnAmi1VsvXZ9CbK8XSP0Nz4gFc=; b=v9fkbf/SvBV1dzxDlRxpP0kLWnN3r+3Dxg3rnyBFkv4pNS/CVUS40so15X07zlLrqT vuHVw6L0NConTS1eAAWTQ3JuTyHx/OY+nO51auff6jQBUK3jm/PmoBaFpPnz/7TuQKcj qI08NdQ1C6IFSJdposdA4Vg1lpvfDF4RNtboA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=lvEDqewQ2isVGuoJLg4Y6jA3COWQSHBdtMh2PvvS9i/pm2WhHiHjcfS8wZwTTCcgFO Xm/zfvGFAks615AjojKIMwuzmQe0Wc+BfZ5grSlQN3PHIbtK3brjmyROqpJa4DVcnXU/ RAG+V/2LfMgFWs43hYqsOMvy9f9LsY8W0Rmf4= Received: by 10.220.124.15 with SMTP id s15mr866952vcr.180.1265866393695; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda2010.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry (bda-206-53-150-209.bise.na.blackberry.com [206.53.150.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm18611677vws.21.2010.02.10.21.33.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:33:12 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 387428344 Message-ID: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Anthony M. Rasat" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:33:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:33:14 -0000 Lin Taosheng wrote: >Is that possible to implementated? No. I think not. But I have not tried it either. Can I ask what do you want to achieve? Because I had the same thought once, concerning how to combat once-increasing script-driven SSH brute-force attack. But I was instead have a better solution using fail2ban to easily thwart those SSH brute force attack. Is that your situation? Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 06:18:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66B3106566B; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFC58FC08; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1B6IM54019448; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B73A12E.2050906@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:22 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernhard Froehlich References: <4B71B476.5020909@rawbw.com> <4B71C309.6000103@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vbox@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: VirtualBox is broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:18:33 -0000 Bernhard Froehlich wrote: > Have a look at /var/log/messages and see what gets logged there when > trying to load the module. Probably your Kernel sources and the vbox > module are out of date or you hit a bug. > This is the only line that gets printed into the log on module load: Feb 9 13:24:35 myhost kernel: vboxdrv: fAsync=0 offMin=0x1f64 offMax=0x2688 Not a chance of kernel sources being outdated or out of sync with vbox. Kernel userland were just rebuilt from the recent sources. And vbox still crashes the system. Do you actually have the latest vbox working with the latest 8.0-STABLE kernel? > Please read http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox on how to correctly > load the module because you risk a freeze when loading it with > kldload when running. > I am pretty much doing the same as in this wiki-page. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 07:07:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A79E10656C0 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bogdan@pgn.ro) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F3C8FC26 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so737575bwz.13 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:07:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.139 with SMTP id d11mr895382bkd.162.1265872069445; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:07:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:07:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Bogdan Webb To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:07:51 -0000 Edit the /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd records to change the uid and gid of the "root" account BUT FIRST MAKE SURE YOU ADD (or changed password of) ANOTHER UID0 ACCOUNT here's an example: etc/master.passwd: root:*PASSWORD HASH*:99:99::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh and /etc/passwd root:*:99:99:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh check the "toor" account it's already created by freebsd but it doesn't have a password, 1st apply a password for that account, triple check that it's usable then edit the records (keep in mind that the 99 uid and 99gid in my examples are fake try giving your's the uid and gid of the "nobody" account, or someother) cheers! 2010/2/11 Anthony M. Rasat > Lin Taosheng wrote: > > >Is that possible to implementated? > > No. I think not. But I have not tried it either. > > Can I ask what do you want to achieve? Because I had the same thought once, > concerning how to combat once-increasing script-driven SSH brute-force > attack. But I was instead have a better solution using fail2ban to easily > thwart those SSH brute force attack. Is that your situation? > > Regards, > > Anthony M. Rasat > Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division > PT. Jawa Pos National Network > Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor > Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 > Indonesia.- > Phone 02132185562 > Phone 081574217035 > Fax 02153651465 > Web http://www.jpnn.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 07:17:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CE106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CC68FC18 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1B7Hgrv049590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:17:42 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1B7Hgrv049590 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265872662; bh=YVDD6DDlHmDiiAZOfZhd/Fh4s3bHM32WBL3eR+TFN6Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B73AF16.7030304@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2011=20Feb=202010=2007:17:42=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Adam=20Landry=20|CC:=20"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20FBSD=20-=20Listen=20on=20IP= 20Block|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:= 207bit; b=Z0JG42FnqFsVFaV1+WIpuu9jyW9B13JG//yrdMYE/vXC35Q62tDasOfre8xHaFaSi bdWYzCw9GLINUEumyBOZlAQCpT6HaG8N4gcXdQJmBXsnEy6Ad4aA+V8jgAv9ZX5gyJ xZXrNkGfyM2mO/loCPjtX2NXqgunvAy4sCNpXZ7U= Message-ID: <4B73AF16.7030304@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:17:42 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Landry References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: FBSD - Listen on IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:17:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/02/2010 21:32, Adam Landry wrote: > Is it possible to have freebsd 8 listen on a complete IP range? Yes. You can add alias addresses for all of the IPs in a network on to the same machine. Easiest way to do that is with something like the following in /etc/rc.conf: ipv4_addrs_em0="192.168.123.1-254/24" Note: be careful to avoid adding the network and the broadcast addresses as aliases or you'll get weird effects. Note 2: if all you want to do is scan passing traffic but not respond to it, then putting the interface into promiscuous mode will do what you want. This happens automatically when using programs like tcpdump or wireshark: otherwise, you can use ifconfig to change manually. To see all the traffic on a wired network, you'll need to have a manageable switch, and set the network port your machine is connected to into monitor mode. Wireless networks don't have this restriction. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktzrxYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwvXwCfWkt5SmDz5SgxfpYOVuKau0f2 AKIAn3+RstFen+BRQvOewkt5bpakBtW0 =FwAV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 08:04:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43D4106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BB28FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1B8497E050067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:11 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1B8497E050067 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265875451; bh=+wrua2UC5r3ZF0rd8/DjdxpcPO2voBo5vHV/k36nltc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B73B9F0.1020105@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu,=2 011=20Feb=202010=2008:04:00=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Gi orgos=20Keramidas=20|CC:=20Robert=20Huff =20,=20=0D=0A=20Lin=20Taosheng=20,=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:= 20HELP!=20Is=20that=20possible=20"creating=20a=20user=20named=20ro ot=20but=09acturally=0D=0A=20not=20the=20administrator=20root"|Ref erences:=20<5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmai l.com>=09<19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org>=20<8 74olocpmc.fsf@kobe.laptop>|In-Reply-To:=20<874olocpmc.fsf@kobe.lap top>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B =20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig09BBB50931970D06FBDF0E 1A"; b=WBaZmP/ExrEwNWNFe8T5rqhTDpt/Y87kIK5VkBAjw8V5C+8eyHIeH/5sArkbfMpJv VbHJr7hE5pVU1DGkdpzVsG5G27dGfpK2/bAHTemBDP1FVW1pfJWK94qTE/rNJhYbeO KQwd34terZTS2iCfeAHU24G3D9UaTlNX3SIAwg5E= Message-ID: <4B73B9F0.1020105@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <874olocpmc.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <874olocpmc.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig09BBB50931970D06FBDF0E1A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, SPF_FAIL, URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Lin Taosheng , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig09BBB50931970D06FBDF0E1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/02/2010 05:23, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:18:30 -0500, Robert Huff wr= ote: >> Lin Taosheng writes: >>> Is that possible to implementated? >> >> For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, >> but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, >> create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad >> Idea. >> >> As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" >> account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other >> hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to >> accomplish your objective: would you care to share? >=20 > The kernel doesn't really care what your user *name* is. See for > example the 'toor user in '/etc/master.passwd'. On the other hand, lots of software expects the superuser account to be called 'root' because that what it always has been ever since Thompson and Ritchie et al. first created Unix. Changing the name of the superuser account, and making root into an unprivileged user will cause you much wailing and gnashing of teeth. It doesn't really buy you much in terms of improved security in any case. Far better to concentrate on making it impossible for the existing root account to be compromised. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enig09BBB50931970D06FBDF0E1A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktzufkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxBtACcCacRuPGEhSXwhsvTJJuTDDjI hbcAnRS+YXF/7PC/N0GNwaIkrOS+f50G =ko56 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig09BBB50931970D06FBDF0E1A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 09:17:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AEB106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D208FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so408014fxm.3 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:17:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=zddXOaDR89NzwJNcTliGmrGieXElRPLfH4FPAKBSMFI=; b=VnXa3/FQO6l/HmBEBJGVE31PL+xFPWskPnkA/6K0qQM9K7XTqOO5Gi7tIETXOdwH2z qu7KdYqg3l+KFpfEWgDNDR4DyW6zfwbRXOSBQyKvn98R8WuPmDoPSPzpZe2KouEGcQFo hLHLgG2x/akEDqswEcEpyAgRszxchujRsYCjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=h2CAKHGU8HvGUk+LxuHT1wtG5KryIaWNv5lABa0AGGDoWCHL4tDgf0xDLowfT3vEGt ZhjiZ6C+AHUWW8f6IHOp0WS7NIQtilE4Os8WVb0GUFVDPIrjfjHWLE4sfxAQsYhhrLUD R243aMU4/HtsAKBJpr6Snm2615P56ulxsiXtw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.186.133 with SMTP id g5mr175791hbh.118.1265879866097; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:17:46 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:17:26 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:17:48 -0000 Running freeBSD 8.0-RELEASE I got NTOS: timer 0xc4817a08 timer fired even though canceled from http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c?v=FREEBSD8 /* * This should never happen, but complain * if it does. */ if (timer->k_header.dh_inserted == FALSE) { mtx_unlock(&ntoskrnl_dispatchlock); printf("NTOS: timer %p fired even though " "it was canceled\n", timer); return; } What might have caused this and how could I fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 10:21:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E897A106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBA78FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1098188fxm.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:21:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=2DD9zdlamoVDLfGm6yDoaRBWPMhxX5aju3t8JmzFyaI=; b=tadiWx8JQPHu+SoSyY+pLJsMfJ5wXGi7eRqyCI6OnpMH7/Kk4EbQVjsoJUzXi4ziLW nw3aGbzEBF+Z4fh2/6wQSiMxFF3kZk11D60apeHIWCwKkZk5vDNe9RNst9Lurg5u50wO ILG5yDMS5B2nfOx/VH5wJNX4Vng5WVVQp/w/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EPXFAR/cxmeBrSgplJK9Uja+nhYpY4kps4Z/kGPNjUrYUHftbZr+VDzoq4vOSP0DR8 j9d5y4j8kjTeXDPUJZmyVeEFMA7x3EhfJrGXhaDLyRvI+CqTs2JtfO1QYsFzH5uazFsk jQCw+aqmUI68t8AoW/r2dJOdffD/3Zf8PlZzI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.38 with SMTP id a38mr1114381muk.37.1265882257026; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: n j Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:57:16 +0100 Message-ID: <92bcbda51002110157i36bd25d7wad9a9f16df2ebaf5@mail.gmail.com> To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Superfluous ACK and RST packets after terminating connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:21:38 -0000 Hi all, I was debugging some problems with an application and noticed some strange behavior that I can only attribute to possible problems in TCP/IP stack which OTOH I consider unlikely. I'd appreciate any pointers towards why are there extra packets? - in case of successful connection: 14:52:57.866040 IP client.example.net.6524 > server.example.net.9002: S 813851098:813851098(0) win 8192 14:52:57.866057 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: S 3888621507:3888621507(0) ack 813851099 win 65535 14:52:57.867143 IP client.example.net.6524 > server.example.net.9002: . ack 3888621508 win 16560 14:52:57.868333 IP client.example.net.6524 > server.example.net.9002: P 813851099:813852180(1081) ack 3888621508 win 16560 14:52:57.967858 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: . ack 813852180 win 8144 14:53:35.533165 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: P 3888621508:3888621542(34) ack 813852180 win 8144 14:53:35.564542 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: FP 3888621542:3888621675(133) ack 813852180 win 8280 14:53:35.566228 IP client.example.net.6524 > server.example.net.9002: . ack 3888621676 win 16518 14:53:35.566289 IP client.example.net.6524 > server.example.net.9002: F 813852180:813852180(0) ack 3888621676 win 16518 14:53:35.566318 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: . ack 813852181 win 8279 [what are these???] 14:53:36.172081 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: . ack 813852180 win 0 14:53:36.172101 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6524: . ack 813852181 win 8279 - in case of unsuccessful connection: 14:53:00.411337 IP client.example.net.6547 > server.example.net.9002: S 1055031875:1055031875(0) win 8192 14:53:00.411354 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6547: S 2849043653:2849043653(0) ack 1055031876 win 65535 14:53:00.412242 IP client.example.net.6547 > server.example.net.9002: . ack 2849043654 win 16560 14:53:00.412251 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6547: R 2849043654:2849043654(0) win 0 [what are these???] 14:53:01.168076 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6547: . ack 1055031876 win 0 14:53:01.168100 IP server.example.net.9002 > client.example.net.6547: R 2849043654:2849043654(0) win 0 14:53:01.168393 IP client.example.net.6547 > server.example.net.9002: R 1055031876:1055031876(0) ack 2849043653 win 0 The server is running 7.2 GENERIC (client is WinXP). I did some googling and the only (somewhat) related thing I found is this post from July 2009: Stray RST packets on 7.2-RELEASE - http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-July/051357.html Thanks, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 11:00:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF6C106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from mail.pil.net (ns3.pil.net [209.17.170.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78BF58FC1E for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59106 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2010 06:00:22 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 06:00:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:00:22 -0500 (EST) From: James Smallacombe X-X-Sender: up@mail.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:00:28 -0000 Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but this is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider changed routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address change. They deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 too close to each other for comfort. My obvious concern here is that the recent php compromises somehow allowed an attacker to alter the ARP table entry of the default gateway. Specific questions are as follows: 1) If this were done via a perl or php script, presumably executing an 'arp -s' command, would it show up in the log like that? I've never changed an ARP entry (except to delete it using 'arp -d'), so I've only seen log entries like that due to external changes, like somebody changing IPs on the LAN from one Ether to another. 2) Could an Ethernet card defect or re0 driver problem cause anything like this? Other bug? 3) If this was an attacker using a local script, how the hell does he get a php or perl script owned by UID 80 (or worst case, a user), to do this? Thanks again for any insight...appreciate a reply to both list and directly. On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, James Smallacombe wrote: > > Please disregard this...sleep deprication...the IP in questions (which I > should have disfuised anyway) was not my server's IP, but that of the default > gateway...the problem was external. > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, James Smallacombe wrote: > >> >> This freaked me out a bit, so I'm just running it past the list to make >> sure this is just a hardware issue...I've never seen it before. >> >> My dedicated server provider replaced my defective server that had been up >> for 6 months after it had apparent failures of a NIC and hard drives. It >> had also recently been the victim of the Zen Cart exploits (I posted about >> this not long ago). >> >> Tonight I lost connectivity to it, got in via KVM/IP and saw this in the >> syslog: >> >> Feb 10 20:42:51 mail kernel: arp: 209.17.170.1 moved from 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 >> to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 on re0 >> >> My first reaction was that somebody else on the LAN had used my IP address, >> which would have explained the connectivity issues. However, the IP >> couldn't be pinged and I also noticed that only one number in the address >> had changed...the odds of somebody else having it were long. ifconfig >> showed the I/F down, no carrier. >> >> I rebooted and then it came up with yet a third MAC address, >> 00:14:d1:3c:1e:31 Not really even close. Still no carrier. Provider >> swaps out the Realtek NIC for a new one and it's working (for now). >> >> Questions that come to mind: could their be a DoS perhaps from a bot or >> c99shell I didn't find? Even if their was, would it be possible for the >> "www" user, with no priveleges to even cause this kind of problem? I had >> disabled suhosin after customers patched their Zen Carts, because it >> interfered with it. >> >> Or...could this be a bug in the re0 driver? It's just weird. >> >> James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >> up@3.am >> http://3.am >> ========================================================================= >> > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 11:38:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF93106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3128FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BBcXJq052733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:38:34 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BBcXJq052733 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265888314; bh=1Jl5SPa6GcRmZRk7/F77yTiuttq6R2jG6BOGNlAxVg0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu,=2 011=20Feb=202010=2011:38:25=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ja mes=20Smallacombe=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org| Subject:=20Re:=20yikes!=20=20MAC=20address=20changed=20??|Referenc es:=20=09=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enigA2FD732D838B05908A56CB61"; b=cHtXTKTlJgDpeeFruI4nQ5ynfIqdmpWAGfd59flw4MiL1/Sz8FVRHhcoqslCq9Rdp prMAjfa7KtDRnfCM03FNu86TAvP99wJQllo3vmtMvv/1KkjDnWqvJuOXGt7ibNujIV pgXbWTFDmsHlWHKaicCaCAzmp2RL2omixFNxEJ34= Message-ID: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:38:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Smallacombe References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA2FD732D838B05908A56CB61" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,PLING_QUERY,SPF_FAIL,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:38:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA2FD732D838B05908A56CB61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/02/2010 11:00, James Smallacombe wrote: > Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but thi= s > is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider changed= > routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address change. They > deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: >=20 > 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 >=20 > too close to each other for comfort. My obvious concern here is that > the recent php compromises somehow allowed an attacker to alter the ARP= > table entry of the default gateway. Specific questions are as follows:= They're not just close: it's a single bit change between the two MACs > 1) If this were done via a perl or php script, presumably executing > an 'arp -s' command, would it show up in the log like that? I've > never changed an ARP entry (except to delete it using 'arp -d'), so > I've only seen log entries like that due to external changes, like > somebody changing IPs on the LAN from one Ether to another. You'ld need root level access to change something like that, no matter if it was from the shell or via some scripting language. If an attacker has the capability to do that to you, then it's *game* *over* -- wipe the box and start again. Of course, that's a pretty bizarre thing for an attacker to do. It draws attention to itself by disrupting your network communications and there isn't any obvious advantage to be gained by doing that. [There might be if the MAC was changed to collide with another one on the same network segment but I believe that is not the case here.] It's not 'arp -s' that is used to change the MAC address on an interface, but ifconfig(8) -- something like this: # ifconfig re0 ether 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 In fact, you can use this to help diagnose your potential hardware problem. Try changing the 2nd byte of the MAC to some other arbitrary values. If you find that 0x4 bit always toggled to zero, it's pretty definitively a hardware problem. Note: log into the console or via different network interface befre trying this or you'll kick yourself off the machine. > 2) Could an Ethernet card defect or re0 driver problem cause anything > like this? Other bug? Yes -- this is the most likely cause. Hardware problems. The MAC address is built into the network card using an EEPROM or such like, and those can conceivably go bad. Replace the NIC and see if the problems go away. > 3) If this was an attacker using a local script, how the hell does he > get a php or perl script owned by UID 80 (or worst case, a user), > to do this? You don't. You need root access to change the MAC on a network interface. Same as for changing the IP number on the interface. Check /etc/rc.conf -- if there aren't ifconfig commands in there to modify the ether or link address, and if the modified MAC survives a system reboot, then it's almost certainly hardware going kaput. Even if the MAC does recover on reboot, it still might be flakey hardware. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enigA2FD732D838B05908A56CB61 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktz7DkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzJFACgkHndu0RzHQY2FLmq5Qcvrntl lQoAnAjQa67bPihxRE2XtgnTihaQvrcd =8906 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA2FD732D838B05908A56CB61-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 12:22:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24C21065672 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from mail.pil.net (ns3.pil.net [209.17.170.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE9168FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3397 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2010 07:22:16 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 07:22:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:22:16 -0500 (EST) From: James Smallacombe X-X-Sender: up@mail.pil.net To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:22:24 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 11/02/2010 11:00, James Smallacombe wrote: >> Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but this >> is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider changed >> routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address change. They >> deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: >> >> 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 >> >> too close to each other for comfort. My obvious concern here is that >> the recent php compromises somehow allowed an attacker to alter the ARP >> table entry of the default gateway. Specific questions are as follows: > > They're not just close: it's a single bit change between the two MACs > >> 1) If this were done via a perl or php script, presumably executing >> an 'arp -s' command, would it show up in the log like that? I've >> never changed an ARP entry (except to delete it using 'arp -d'), so >> I've only seen log entries like that due to external changes, like >> somebody changing IPs on the LAN from one Ether to another. > > You'ld need root level access to change something like that, no matter > if it was from the shell or via some scripting language. If an attacker > has the capability to do that to you, then it's *game* *over* -- wipe > the box and start again. Of course, that's a pretty bizarre thing for > an attacker to do. It draws attention to itself by disrupting your > network communications and there isn't any obvious advantage to be > gained by doing that. [There might be if the MAC was changed to > collide with another one on the same network segment but I believe that > is not the case here.] I figure root at some point is needed, but wondered if there was another POA I had to worry about. In effect, I already "wiped out" this server a few days ago...new drives with new / FS from 7.2-RELEASE. However, I did copy over /usr/local and /home file systems from the old server's drive, and parts of /var. Everything in / (including /usr) is fresh. > It's not 'arp -s' that is used to change the MAC address on an > interface, but ifconfig(8) -- something like this: > > # ifconfig re0 ether 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 See my second post. I screwed up in my first post. It wasn't the MAC address of my NIC that changed, it's the MAC address of the DEFAULT GATEWAY that changed. I believe that would use 'arp', not 'ifconfig', right? >> 2) Could an Ethernet card defect or re0 driver problem cause anything >> like this? Other bug? > > Yes -- this is the most likely cause. Hardware problems. The MAC > address is built into the network card using an EEPROM or such like, > and those can conceivably go bad. Replace the NIC and see if the > problems go away. Ok, longer shot here...could a hardware problem on my box screw up the MAC address of the default gateway? It should be noted that when I did and ifconfig -a during this down time, the Ether showed "no carrier". Could messed up ARP tables even do that? I would think that the carrier just needs a cable plugged from the NIC into a switch? >> 3) If this was an attacker using a local script, how the hell does he >> get a php or perl script owned by UID 80 (or worst case, a user), >> to do this? > > You don't. You need root access to change the MAC on a network > interface. Same as for changing the IP number on the interface. > Check /etc/rc.conf -- if there aren't ifconfig commands in there > to modify the ether or link address, and if the modified MAC survives > a system reboot, then it's almost certainly hardware going kaput. > Even if the MAC does recover on reboot, it still might be flakey > hardware. Still had no carrier after reboot. Only after swapping the NIC. Does a reboot wipe out the ARP tables? James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 12:50:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B530B106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0741F8FC1E for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (187.70-246-213.ippool.namesco.net [213.246.70.187]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1BCoMsZ029340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:23 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B73FD0E.6050409@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:22 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:25 -0000 On 11/02/2010 11:00, James Smallacombe wrote: > > Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but > this is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider > changed routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address > change. They deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: > > 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 > If it wasnt for the 00:17 to 00:13 change I would suggest that it was a HSRP/VRRP change, (Virtual ip used by 2 routers in a fail over fashion) as I see this message often on one of my boxes which are on a LAN with a pair of ZXTM Load balancers, when one moves from active to passive and the other takes over (at least I assume thats what they are doing as apparently they arent running active-active.) arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8c:2a to 00:30:48:d4:8e:86 on em0 arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8e:86 to 00:30:48:d4:8c:2a on em0 arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8c:2a to 00:30:48:d4:8e:86 on em0 arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8e:86 to 00:30:48:d4:8c:2a on em0 arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8b:c9 to 00:30:48:d4:8e:d1 on em0 arp: 85.233.xxx.xxx moved from 00:30:48:d4:8e:d1 to 00:30:48:d4:8b:c9 on em0 However in your case, while 00:17:E0 is reasonable (a cisco mac address) 00:13:E0 is a little worrying as apparently its a Murata Manufacturing(whoever they are) mac address (see http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/?string=00%3A13%3Ae0%3A4f%3Ab9%3Ac0) you can check if its a static entry in your arp tables using arp -a | grep permanent The only permanent entries should be your local IPs (whatever you have configured on your interfaces) unless you have any others you have put in yourself. so for my server i have root@seaurchin ~]# arp -a | grep permanent seaurchin.the.namesco.net (85.233.xxx.xxx) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 permanent [ethernet] ? (10.20.0.3) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 permanent [ethernet] (10.20.0.3 is a jail) If i manually add an arp entry [root@seaurchin ~]# arp -s 85.233.xxx.254 00:30:48:b8:55:ff [root@seaurchin ~]# arp -a | grep permanent ? (85.233.xxx.254) at 00:30:48:b8:55:ff on em0 permanent [ethernet] seaurchin.the.namesco.net (85.233.xxx.xxx) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 permanent [ethernet] ? (10.20.0.3) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 permanent [ethernet] Hope this helps a little. Vince > too close to each other for comfort. My obvious concern here is that > the recent php compromises somehow allowed an attacker to alter the > ARP table entry of the default gateway. Specific questions are as > follows: > > 1) If this were done via a perl or php script, presumably executing > an 'arp -s' command, would it show up in the log like that? I've > never changed an ARP entry (except to delete it using 'arp -d'), so > I've only seen log entries like that due to external changes, like > somebody changing IPs on the LAN from one Ether to another. > > 2) Could an Ethernet card defect or re0 driver problem cause anything > like this? Other bug? > > 3) If this was an attacker using a local script, how the hell does he > get a php or perl script owned by UID 80 (or worst case, a user), > to do this? > > Thanks again for any insight...appreciate a reply to both list and > directly. > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, James Smallacombe wrote: > >> >> Please disregard this...sleep deprication...the IP in questions >> (which I should have disfuised anyway) was not my server's IP, but >> that of the default gateway...the problem was external. >> >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, James Smallacombe wrote: >> >>> >>> This freaked me out a bit, so I'm just running it past the list to >>> make sure this is just a hardware issue...I've never seen it before. >>> >>> My dedicated server provider replaced my defective server that had >>> been up for 6 months after it had apparent failures of a NIC and >>> hard drives. It had also recently been the victim of the Zen Cart >>> exploits (I posted about this not long ago). >>> >>> Tonight I lost connectivity to it, got in via KVM/IP and saw this in >>> the syslog: >>> >>> Feb 10 20:42:51 mail kernel: arp: 209.17.170.1 moved from >>> 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 on re0 >>> >>> My first reaction was that somebody else on the LAN had used my IP >>> address, which would have explained the connectivity issues. >>> However, the IP couldn't be pinged and I also noticed that only one >>> number in the address had changed...the odds of somebody else having >>> it were long. ifconfig showed the I/F down, no carrier. >>> >>> I rebooted and then it came up with yet a third MAC address, >>> 00:14:d1:3c:1e:31 Not really even close. Still no carrier. >>> Provider swaps out the Realtek NIC for a new one and it's working >>> (for now). >>> >>> Questions that come to mind: could their be a DoS perhaps from a bot >>> or c99shell I didn't find? Even if their was, would it be possible >>> for the "www" user, with no priveleges to even cause this kind of >>> problem? I had disabled suhosin after customers patched their Zen >>> Carts, because it interfered with it. >>> >>> Or...could this be a bug in the re0 driver? It's just weird. >>> >>> James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >>> up@3.am http://3.am >>> ========================================================================= >>> >>> >> >> James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >> up@3.am http://3.am >> ========================================================================= >> >> > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 14:28:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43026106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from mail.pil.net (ns3.pil.net [209.17.170.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F40A8FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3536 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2010 09:28:51 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 09:28:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:28:51 -0500 (EST) From: James Smallacombe X-X-Sender: up@mail.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address of default gateway changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:28:58 -0000 Hi: Please reply-all ; I am not subscribed On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Vince Hoffman wrote: > >> On 11/02/2010 11:00, James Smallacombe wrote: >>> Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but this >>> is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider changed >>> routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address change. They >>> deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: >>> >>> 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 > > On 11/02/2010 11:00, James Smallacombe wrote: >> >> Sorry for replying to myself (AND top-posting!) twice in a row, but >> this is become a huge concern. My first thought is that my provider >> changed routers or router Ethernet ports, hence the MAC address >> change. They deny this, plus I find the two MAC addresses: >> >> 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 to 00:13:e0:4f:b9:c0 >> > However in your case, while 00:17:E0 is reasonable (a cisco mac address) > 00:13:E0 is a little worrying as apparently its a Murata > Manufacturing(whoever they are) mac address (see > http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/?string=00%3A13%3Ae0%3A4f%3Ab9%3Ac0) Well, that rules out anything by the provider. > you can check if its a static entry in your arp tables using > arp -a | grep permanent > The only permanent entries should be your local IPs (whatever you have > configured on your interfaces) unless you have any others you have put > in yourself. > so for my server i have > root@seaurchin ~]# arp -a | grep permanent > seaurchin.the.namesco.net (85.233.xxx.xxx) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 > permanent [ethernet] > ? (10.20.0.3) at 00:11:43:d8:2c:df on em0 permanent [ethernet] Obviously the ARP entry is long gone now and I don't recall if it was permanent or not. It just leaves a couple of questions: If it was caused by a malicious arp command on my server, wouldn't a reboot have gotten rid of it? Would it also result in a "NO CARRIER" on the interface? Network did not come back until the Ethernet card was swapped. The bottom line is whether it is possible for a NIC failure to cause the kernel to register an ARP change. Thanks again to everyone... James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 14:31:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3291065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4158FC16 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BEUmDg002983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:30:55 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BEUmDg002983 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265898655; bh=jqcGo7/RQ1om06UpbbeTXbQyYDcdbOLMjQ634shgxOA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B74148E.8090405@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu,=2 011=20Feb=202010=2014:30:38=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ja mes=20Smallacombe=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org| Subject:=20Re:=20yikes!=20=20MAC=20address=20changed=20??|Referenc es:=20=20=20=20<4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co. uk>=20|In-Reply- To:=20|X-Enigmai l-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpg p-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enig1D5A9850DE44E05A54191F1B"; b=eThM+rpRT+jnaWeJv5Xf4KTiSqvijnHuBIvQ9Bqr/GSUPl3ms/uNei9p1N+40t2xY PTwD2Bpauh763iT2HJJcnOxEuo+QVqJ30qUb6aXF218t1rjlCWWdVs+euKDtZbnD2Q hv7eGliwVWYTJq0gU0XjP/3JgPebOzNNE2tV4a8g= Message-ID: <4B74148E.8090405@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:30:38 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Smallacombe References: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1D5A9850DE44E05A54191F1B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,PLING_QUERY,SPF_FAIL,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:31:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1D5A9850DE44E05A54191F1B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/02/2010 12:22, James Smallacombe wrote: >> It's not 'arp -s' that is used to change the MAC address on an >> interface, but ifconfig(8) -- something like this: >> >> # ifconfig re0 ether 00:17:e0:4f:b9:c0 >=20 > See my second post. I screwed up in my first post. It wasn't the MAC > address of my NIC that changed, it's the MAC address of the DEFAULT > GATEWAY that changed. I believe that would use 'arp', not 'ifconfig', > right? Ah, right. Please ignore my previous bletherings. Had wrong end of stick. >>> 2) Could an Ethernet card defect or re0 driver problem cause anything= >>> like this? Other bug? >> >> Yes -- this is the most likely cause. Hardware problems. The MAC >> address is built into the network card using an EEPROM or such like, >> and those can conceivably go bad. Replace the NIC and see if the >> problems go away. >=20 > Ok, longer shot here...could a hardware problem on my box screw up the > MAC address of the default gateway? It should be noted that when I did= > and ifconfig -a during this down time, the Ether showed "no carrier".=20 > Could messed up ARP tables even do that? I would think that the carrie= r > just needs a cable plugged from the NIC into a switch? I still think it's probably hardware. The question is: duff router or duff server? A good test is to see what happens to another box on the same network segment. If there's another machine already there that will do, or try plugging in a laptop configured with a spare IP and the correct default gateway. Then try pinging around other addresses on the network, and beyond your gateway box. If this third machine: * can ping the world successfully, and gets the original (correct) mac address -- then your server is where the problem is * can ping the world successfully, but gets the changed mac address -- then your router has somehow changed mac: whether deliberately, by operator accident or by hardware flaking out. In which case, you can leave everything running with the changed mac for the time being while you concentrate on dealing with the router. * can't ping the default gateway or ping through it, but can ping other machines on the local net, irrespective of what MAC it picks up for the default gateway. -- then the router is fubar. At best it is responding to ARP requests with a corrupt MAC address and can be cured by a reboot or similar. At worst, it needs expensive replacement therapy. You can't change the MAC address on the router by fiddling with arp(8) on your server. You can however terminally confuse your server as to what the MAC address of the router really is, and you can make mayhem by creating an arp conflict and having your machine usurp the router's mac address. Best not to do either of those things. Just let the arp table be populated automatically. Unless marked as permanent, addresses in the arp cache will time out and be refreshed once they reach the maximum age: % sysctl net.link.ether.inet.max_age net.link.ether.inet.max_age: 1200 which equates to 20 minutes. So if you simply wait, it will frequently sort itself out. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enig1D5A9850DE44E05A54191F1B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt0FJgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz3VwCfb3O69Uql2ZjxVZ555i212d90 YOEAn2/fpuFH8nfgSN61WbhVUXrRZ1s7 =0VKN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1D5A9850DE44E05A54191F1B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 14:44:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455E7106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91718FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BEiGi1003111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BEiGi1003111 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1265899457; bh=3sFRhwn9ntuCq7/O7HL5Wca/6xKdQKpdgO+Ad4FPvos=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B7417B8.3060605@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu,=2 011=20Feb=202010=2014:44:08=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ja mes=20Smallacombe=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org| Subject:=20Re:=20yikes!=20=20MAC=20address=20of=20default=20gatewa y=20changed=20??|References:=20=09=09=09<4B73EC3 1.6030209@black-earth.co.uk>=09=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatur e"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigB72429465B9D3CF93AE4AC13 "; b=BdgQ1R+tEjZMOyezMsXIx4aE+ewFkBi0pC5ex9Cikuf4i06+/iRdLWWJWfbby8IV4 b7zQKbg6JvTYbAhCqK0+RAiiKBvIL+DCH4Nz+TFWjfeePlSqxIPID/rLRa5ooI/1S0 +wcw3aH6AL42wobXi8WSYKkSW1ZyW3iGaBldUvww= Message-ID: <4B7417B8.3060605@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:08 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Smallacombe References: <4B73EC31.6030209@black-earth.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB72429465B9D3CF93AE4AC13" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,PLING_QUERY,SPF_FAIL,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yikes! MAC address of default gateway changed ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB72429465B9D3CF93AE4AC13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/02/2010 14:28, James Smallacombe wrote: > If it was caused by a malicious arp command on my server, wouldn't a > reboot have gotten rid of it? Would it also result in a "NO CARRIER" o= n > the interface? Network did not come back until the Ethernet card was > swapped. >=20 > The bottom line is whether it is possible for a NIC failure to cause th= e > kernel to register an ARP change. Yes. Getting 'NO CARRIER' all of a sudden after the NIC has been behaving weirdly looks very much like hardware spiralling into oblivion and not enemy action. Having a corrupted arp cache is also likely a symptom of hardware going bad. NIC failure can have the observed results, and it's quite likely that on reboot the NIC would fail to work entirely in that situation. Actually, one thing it's always a good idea to test in these circumstances is that it's not a broken or loose ethernet cable. This can cause all sorts of similar weirdness, but it's a lot easier and cheaper to fix. I've seen the like sort of problems just from people pulling cable ties too tight. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enigB72429465B9D3CF93AE4AC13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt0F8AACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzA5ACfTsqEMS8ACTG6RigrqSK9E6OD mtIAn1aPXWSgjsugZk48pC7Q8geWeZBQ =OHDZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB72429465B9D3CF93AE4AC13-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 14:53:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9176A1065672 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733428FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6552EAB6C19 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:50:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:53:41 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:53:44 -0000 Hi, I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to create a memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am looking for is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not modify the actual file. I know what I could easily to this by copying the content of the file to the memory disk, but I am looking for a solution that can be configured via fstab. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 15:12:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0491A106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848958FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BFCMYC003453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:23 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BFCMYC003453 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265901143; bh=yUaXlmZ5cDUnHJXriWBOFAgJ9J4/hVui6GLrHSbaDTs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2011=20Feb=202010=2015:12:22=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Pierre-Luc=20Drouin=20|CC:=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Memory=20disk=20"a=20l a=20mfsroot"?|References:=20<4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net>|In-Rep ly-To:=20<4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0 |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer- Encoding:=207bit; b=bW7XUduRC1uWKgRNUkMwVeFceEriVGMmAitctQbNdmdehfRVMZ8nSyyYfQVcpDrpP buoeibb/3/+A+8WDTyrn404smHe34jj7B4hs4S7awE8j0cbTQXv2+YaV/Y8+/mmawX rlF3z5FT1t026LdYzeTxS9ocCxSJyPqGGf6JLws8= Message-ID: <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:22 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2010 14:53, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to create a > memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am looking for > is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not modify the actual > file. I know what I could easily to this by copying the content of the > file to the memory disk, but I am looking for a solution that can be > configured via fstab. Yes. See mdconfig(8) -- there are examples in there of exactly what you want to do. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt0HlYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyprwCfQj9DwqHtLoDx2ZWCrhglFDfH dR4AoIEw3CyS2zPajdi4PLGC7aLHj5aI =Xr7U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 15:30:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81F11065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DAB8FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF6AB6C23; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:27:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B7422A7.1000701@pldrouin.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:30:47 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:30:49 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/02/2010 14:53, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > >> I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to create a >> memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am looking for >> is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not modify the actual >> file. I know what I could easily to this by copying the content of the >> file to the memory disk, but I am looking for a solution that can be >> configured via fstab. >> > > Yes. See mdconfig(8) -- there are examples in there of exactly what you > want to do. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkt0HlYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyprwCfQj9DwqHtLoDx2ZWCrhglFDfH > dR4AoIEw3CyS2zPajdi4PLGC7aLHj5aI > =Xr7U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > I might be missing something in the mdconfig man page, but in the examples I see they always allow modifications to the backing file. As I said I am looking for a solution where the backing file is only read, but I want to mount the memory disk in read-write mode. Also, I want only the modifications to be kept in the RAM, not the initial files. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 15:33:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A311065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59FC8FC1C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so338756eya.9 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:33:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=x4Tqftnut5unD3UCyeanBLdVtd+Zv3r2CsU4TEoRESs=; b=DlNZ7m/nvcXxxYyl84zoLe+JM5vpeejKssv9vIuMuJW+FfjgvM6VjWDY0XGzF5Vn8B 22hc4t/v97WcMMpJC0DJp/MQPQRI54pHJAQKB3EfMF9T6Tb9P5TGh+wqGbvLD/CWTRXK QzznWXbLLSAZT1BZ7c2QvRwI21EjmQ0d2NxZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZF542UrLyrMBmdhWDmtngRArk9OVHouWxbdnjcM/5P6wPqBIp8PPMUu1oMeUZ2ndjs PALl+T+K+ZjaAnSL0/db9a6WHYWaYMKU0/H3KVM3A1a/2kcuDQ3XEZJPmLZqftPTY1gV t4EvTeG2/iRpU+L34DqI3FZrBqSEIYRQ6lE7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.77.141 with SMTP id g13mr22573ebk.3.1265902409678; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:33:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:33:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: freebsd-jails@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:31 -0000 Hi! I've just began scripting a small tool for creating jails, much like ezjail. But instead of creating a own basejail, jailcfg mounts /bin, /lib, /usr/bin, etc. from root. And this means that the footprint of one of "my" jails is just about 3MB :) The script is in very early stages, but it's a start. Get it by doing: hg clone https://jailcfg.googlecode.com/hg/ jailcfg Feedback is welcome! -- chs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 15:39:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69C91065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447738FC21 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1417833fxm.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:39:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ve0PjtGtCpL66aX4XBSo7vTTb6As9cyqiA9JMDExOp0=; b=bvhpweYVuEvVt1CpOielTbn4LkxUZRMO2W6jlHpp/X2Gnc/aUykCbjwkHZ8mawyLp4 rI+UubIHySmZulGUeWTQlotYqNh6T0RnFF/ftlCPvTL012dhEZ5LMd6M/fWB8lLGROoO yQmAj3xKQRva9/Lc7QMVifKNpFIif6s0O7lCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sk1HFlMCo004rfKTOL6TksCnkg9HLzdZjC7FUoL02W3QUHg1vAEJos1T2PnEea0965 bqD8xQ1A+7ubL+hFYTz2o5TytmvvEcfHYnU08RABNzd1E5VqbvGsmF8o5bvxN7aPjEEG n0W2Js9GOkuRnwEu0RG8RPETO8uxKuFjkhEaI= Received: by 10.216.89.149 with SMTP id c21mr1144500wef.224.1265902782978; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm3293967gve.0.2010.02.11.07.39.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:39:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:25 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:39:44 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:22 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/02/2010 14:53, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > > I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to > > create a memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am > > looking for is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not > > modify the actual file. I know what I could easily to this by > > copying the content of the file to the memory disk, but I am > > looking for a solution that can be configured via fstab. > > Yes. See mdconfig(8) -- there are examples in there of exactly what > you want to do. I don't think covers what he is asking for. I think you would need a union filsystem that overlays a swap-backed filesystem on top of a file-backed filesystem - if that's possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 15:54:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5A11065700 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B108FC1D for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BFsZlw003970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:54:35 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BFsZlw003970 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265903675; bh=EM/0zy7IFAvoLF/7EdEhrtywKATZM+/lcTq+neHcgWU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2011=20Feb=202010=2015:54:35=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20RW=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Memo ry=20disk=20"a=20la=20mfsroot"?|References:=20<4B7419F5.7050602@pl drouin.net>=09<4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<2010021 1153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<2010021115392 5.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:= 207bit; b=EddXr5cAvMbzvTpr3IS5Q3BamsLgMUlptB8y75DKHhUGZQrt2v5h7zY7hWjuugyTM aRWp5Xsx9m4RusVFo4fGuicfHmYbeYtr2n2ePlKqaDjQmUL66tlZSmsHr0Qlex3fpq uvrl8c4QMlnHnKE3DWHFhmWdx6ryeEKHO/FocRTI= Message-ID: <4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:54:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:54:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2010 15:39, RW wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:22 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 11/02/2010 14:53, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >> >>> I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to >>> create a memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am >>> looking for is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not >>> modify the actual file. I know what I could easily to this by >>> copying the content of the file to the memory disk, but I am >>> looking for a solution that can be configured via fstab. >> >> Yes. See mdconfig(8) -- there are examples in there of exactly what >> you want to do. > > I don't think covers what he is asking for. I think you would need a > union filsystem that overlays a swap-backed filesystem on top of a > file-backed filesystem - if that's possible. Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of mounting a .iso as a cd9660 filesystem. Which won't muck up the underlying .iso, but only because it's read-only. You could mount a FFS image read-only in exactly the same way -- I think there's a 'last mounted on' field in the backing file image that will be updated if the it is writable (even if the fs itself is mounted ro) but that's not the right answer either. Basically, you're going to have to mount and initialise as two separate operations as far as I can see. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt0KDsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxZaACcCIsHKNBckWDFzRWDJqEH/vVC Pd4AnRp74n7+Jl+z28VwBEYqpfQmNVJ0 =lxug -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 16:15:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB831065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com (mail-qy0-f189.google.com [209.85.221.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F3E8FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so867414qyk.3 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:15:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Jired7xQY1IArdw0AFhHT1B8wik6VMvNxedCwzsfCO8=; b=hNoYREl2Bd1teogZUiuUV6wmwjzVYWErjCL92Tg5ak3BnpYv2Qoqvu1l6iItv3cOar E1ylddGR+cUHrBSovckBOtKlIYzty3OikqcVQQtbi5rS0/BMZ/xLijHw9v/RqIxd5GMJ N4RY2KM+Hv2kL1XsWm7t6NXYgLLKYDo1fynIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B3tUgCOuq4qrwmcbM1lA+3XSApwJYXRdmHTJwif4rJoDXXNtCEas+oGViAj2Ik2z/5 nhWZDH8C4hVtMNzt2zka9pJ5gCK9JOM7yzU2UmzuWyqTOiOJM9E8BKxBWHuzLtF4ANec VE0Ksv+8+Sofdz34YCAvTM7z1ocEMKWQqbakc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.59.19 with SMTP id h19mr30515wfa.243.1265904912993; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:15:12 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002110815l312da12fr5388956f32465516@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: python script to backup installed packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:15:14 -0000 Sometimes you have need to backup installed packages. I realize most port management tools do this automatically, but if you're on a system with a lot of packages installed and one port management tool fails and you use another to fix it, /usr/ports/packages can become jumbled. Anyways, I've written a simple python script which will create a fresh snapshot of all installed packages. These are convenient for backups or installing on a new system. For anyone interested: from subprocess import Popen, PIPE import os s = Popen('pkg_info -a | grep : | grep Information',shell=True,stdout=PIPE).communicate()[0] pkg_location = '/data/packages' packages = [] for line in s.split('\n'): info = line.replace('Information for ', '').replace(':','') packages.append(info) os.chdir(pkg_location) for package in packages: s = Popen('pkg_create -b ' + package,shell=True,stdout=PIPE).communicate()[0] -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 17:10:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B7F106568F for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D928FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86736AB6C10; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:07:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B743A16.9020201@pldrouin.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:10:46 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:10:50 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/02/2010 15:39, RW wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:22 +0000 >> Matthew Seaman wrote: >> > > >>> On 11/02/2010 14:53, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I would like to know if there is a mount command that allows to >>>> create a memory disk that can be initialized from a file. What I am >>>> looking for is something like mount_mfs -F, but that does not >>>> modify the actual file. I know what I could easily to this by >>>> copying the content of the file to the memory disk, but I am >>>> looking for a solution that can be configured via fstab. >>>> >>> Yes. See mdconfig(8) -- there are examples in there of exactly what >>> you want to do. >>> >> I don't think covers what he is asking for. I think you would need a >> union filsystem that overlays a swap-backed filesystem on top of a >> file-backed filesystem - if that's possible. >> > > Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of mounting a .iso as a > cd9660 filesystem. Which won't muck up the underlying .iso, but only > because it's read-only. You could mount a FFS image read-only in > exactly the same way -- I think there's a 'last mounted on' field in the > backing file image that will be updated if the it is writable (even if > the fs itself is mounted ro) but that's not the right answer either. > > Basically, you're going to have to mount and initialise as two separate > operations as far as I can see. > By this do you mean that I would need to copy the whole content of the read-only filesystem to the memory disk? I looked at the man page for mount_unionfs and there is a big warning saying that it is a bad idea to use it, so I guess I will pass on this solution... What I am trying to do basically is to mount a filesystem from a CD but I want to use a memory disk to allow write operations. I would basically want the filesystem to behave like a regular read-write filesystem, but not have to copy everything into a memory disk. What does "mfs_root" do exactly in the official FreeBSD boot CDs? Does it copy the content of mfsroot.gz into a memory disk? That filesystem is so small that I guess it can be copied without any problem... Thanks! > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkt0KDsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxZaACcCIsHKNBckWDFzRWDJqEH/vVC > Pd4AnRp74n7+Jl+z28VwBEYqpfQmNVJ0 > =lxug > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 18:52:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F74F1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A96C8FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1622092ewy.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:52:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+WU0CQJfklnB2KkM9jEkJYP1mfL6b17IckQrLOsxzRs=; b=j9JeAKZtK0U5rCEco2Y593tIi2t0uJpJh9Z+Vt2NkKq2r+ZNl+bDgH8jcwKkNNjDwp FWWAkytF+UMAyrzlj4j1HmF73Ah/9rs4vitbkqUZcwJYyezJZ3bJ85hG5N+WceOoc18Y 7X/pUGnMGUX8froy/nvNL6sCJ+AemG582I4no= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=T4A/R9A1oCGPTcxuQDjIpF7t+85SK2WG3K7wtilVznlk6ZFhI3JYiGuMGjqaEVHYqx ejyLG3TRl58l2zwTvf7VIuZ5OQkP2MbMDDMfWqKFq+Y1ujNNVV3AaxK+UrCl4tdnLp+o 2qlFHWyRnlNCEuMtjOG09voGB/sUPJjmTi3EY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.104.69 with SMTP id n5mr1015899ebo.20.1265914366569; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:52:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:52:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:52:49 -0000 On 2/11/10, Eitan Adler wrote: > Running freeBSD 8.0-RELEASE I got > NTOS: timer 0xc4817a08 timer fired even though canceled > > from > http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c?v=FREEBSD8 > > /* > * This should never happen, but complain > * if it does. > */ > > if (timer->k_header.dh_inserted == FALSE) { > mtx_unlock(&ntoskrnl_dispatchlock); > printf("NTOS: timer %p fired even though " > "it was canceled\n", timer); > return; > } > > > What might have caused this and how could I fix it? What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 18:58:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487C5106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5748FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so2028770pxi.14 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2HMpruL/01jDl0WeUD4VIsgO804MBEpf3go4LgXJsSI=; b=FEPhGrH+rJ+7dLfzTizHmat34WVaKM6Royy90dzz8mUouuvhh4VGrc27W5pqiP8UUH d+xybhztdpOdaIm6/wYSsbHveOu+8BmE2DuOAQo1QkXt2T8g8OnWcVttPpkULTE08XrV c4f53JoymOvGUhOGwRZYChG1YoS+fD7ucTmVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Rd4RSgQsYXC5OVwSDDwbuCbOI5qzxbKQD412sfd96dDD9IsWaq5oxC0DIodFDmtPR/ cZkOcnIKfgkA2mCryftislQwGLAcVGN2ere4EhBpluSNmHkBVB2q3LoWSfd5S7uOBnlb b84RJ9Jij5IjgDSDR+mVE1iK2O/RoJCf/F+GU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.7.38 with SMTP id 38mr172382wfg.179.1265914687390; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:58:07 -0500 Message-ID: <54db43991002111058r1d8d1244mff110ec0b6f69046@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Lin Taosheng Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:58:08 -0000 On 2/11/10, Robert Huff wrote: > > Lin Taosheng writes: > >> Is that possible to implementated? > Yes, use vipw to edit the password file. Add another username that is UID zero. The name "toor" is actually already there as an example of how to do that, but it is disabled because it has a "*" in the password field. After the new username is tested and you know it works, use vipw to replace the password field for "root" to an "*". Then root will still exist, but it will not be possible to log in to it. You could also delete the entire line for "root", but that gets farther into unusual territory and increases the chance that you will break something else by doing so. > For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, > but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, > create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad > Idea. I know of no reason that this would be a bad idea. It is in fact useful in some situations to have more than one admin account, enough so that about a decade ago some effort was put into making sure it works properly when you do that in FreeBSD. > As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" > account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other > hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to > accomplish your objective: would you care to share? Having an account named "root" that is not UID 0 (i.e. not an administrator), is likely to have unexpected side effects that you probably won't like. So even though it has theoretical security advantages (because unlike Windows, you can't remotely query FreeBSD and ask it the name of its administrator account), it probably isn't a good idea. A quick search turned up problems when people tried this in Debian, and I would expect similar issues in FreeBSD. But if you try it, I'd love to hear the result. If you are worried about remote logins to the root account, that is actually disabled by default in FreeBSD. The biggest hazard you face in that area is that if you configure SSH to use PAM login, the PAM subsystem can allow remote root logins when you think they are disabled. You have to be careful to configure SSH (and anything else that uses PAM) correctly in that situation. - Bob Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:10:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC0106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDB38FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1321561bwz.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:10:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5NBtttJ3UHyuI7dO5IPfCm9btyAHMdh9cAYmp6UHdYU=; b=RJDFW4La+PQ3m32KVkBUG+Ou8t6DCZ6qdRZsad4WRYLdqhFvtIJ8sa5yo7c3aNzyQP NxWyY4U0DAlYRRjD7z2OSveAq5nNBf2kaQQKB0YmsKryoAKxoXVpKcUIqxTpAX7XuDTm UDsjk+vWh/3awBU9FrySMCzyi+GdBIW+kBGaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KYXb96xAfIvVgDO/LnZSzZdM/BRmuTzx9/QSoyvnA2jTvYuPd2BQSxFGJDQf3w2uP6 r6MO0EuVaLFqHbrF0UaFmvmwrW/c0Ny8SnLBsXLY7qGW17BHrIjGdNYhu0O+DxD4YmD0 kXIVOfMHV/EDypG3iXeLm74Ij7sLYmGOV+kDw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.144.86 with SMTP id y22mr189769bku.43.1265915411098; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:10:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002110244.o1B2iLuH002659@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201002110244.o1B2iLuH002659@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:10:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19861fba1002111110i2d3313cfl1bff10dd907b2a4b@mail.gmail.com> From: J65nko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sysinstall and mfs Great News and another Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:12 -0000 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > J65nko writes: >> IMHO it is easier to to install FreeBSD without using sysinstall at all. >> >> See the "FreeBSD Install Without Sysinstall" guide at >> http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1538 > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This looks very possible with a couple of changes. Am I > right in my reading of the man page of mdconfig that the memory > disk image will gobble up at least as much RAM as the image, > itself? In this case, that's about 600 times more than I have > available. mfsbsd seems as solid as a rock as long as you don't > do something that needs lots of buffer space as there is only > about a megabyte or two left over. tar works fine and I can copy > either an iso image or a tar ball made from the file system over > to the newly-formatted drive where it can be unpacked. =A0It may > be necessary to run chroot /mnt so as not to munch mfs when > running the install.sh scripts but I think this should install > the system. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I really have given up on sysinstall for this purpose. > It is hard to script and it appears that if you use the custom > installation, you almost get a system but the effort is hardly > worth it. One still has to install the kernel and many of the > configuration files like /etc/rc.conf. I don't know why but > another artickel I read on remote installation of FreeBSD that > uses sysinstall describes this so I know it isn't just me doing > something stupid. I feel kind of stupid spending almost 3 weeks > finding out what doesn't work. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0When using mfsbsd, one already has enough information in > the interface configuration and resolv.conf to populate /etc/rc.conf, > /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf to match the present network > configuration. The local time zone is a copy of one of the rule > sets for computing time placed as /etc/localtime. In the middle > of the United States, it is /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago > copied, not linked, to /etc/localtime. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The goal is to run the script I will build under mfsbsd > and then boot the system in working order as if it had been > installed via sysinstall by someone sitting at a console. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ =A0Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:10:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F960106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C348FC16 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o1BJ8eZB073249; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:08:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o1BJ8eMH073248; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:08:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:08:40 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Bob Johnson Message-ID: <20100211190840.GB73100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <54db43991002111058r1d8d1244mff110ec0b6f69046@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43991002111058r1d8d1244mff110ec0b6f69046@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Lin Taosheng , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:10:30 -0000 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:58:07PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 2/11/10, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Lin Taosheng writes: > > > >> Is that possible to implementated? > > > > Yes, use vipw to edit the password file. Add another username that is > UID zero. The name "toor" is actually already there as an example of > how to do that, but it is disabled because it has a "*" in the > password field. After the new username is tested and you know it > works, use vipw to replace the password field for "root" to an "*". > Then root will still exist, but it will not be possible to log in to > it. You could also delete the entire line for "root", but that gets > farther into unusual territory and increases the chance that you will > break something else by doing so. If I take what the OP said literally, you are answering backwards. The OP asked if it is possible to name a different account root - eg one that is not UID 0. You are answering that it is possible to give an account other than root a UID 0. Now, the OP may have meant to ask what you are answering and just got it mixed up. But, that was not the way the question went. Anyway, even if it is possible to name a non-UID 0 account root, it is a very bad idea. Too many things assume that the string 'root' refers to the UID 0 account. There may be something that depends on it. On the other side, it is possible to give an account with a different name the UID of 0. This is often done so someone can work at a root level without using the root name - probably in hopes of controlling things more tightly. Maybe it might help a bit. But, the FreeBSD system comes automatically set to you cannot log in over the net with a root (eg a UID 0) account. The recommended way to get to root is to either use the console or to log in as a non-root account using an encrypted path and then su(1) to root or to a root account (eg one with UID 0). ////jerry > > > For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, > > but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, > > create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad > > Idea. > > I know of no reason that this would be a bad idea. It is in fact > useful in some situations to have more than one admin account, enough > so that about a decade ago some effort was put into making sure it > works properly when you do that in FreeBSD. > > > As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" > > account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other > > hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to > > accomplish your objective: would you care to share? > > Having an account named "root" that is not UID 0 (i.e. not an > administrator), is likely to have unexpected side effects that you > probably won't like. So even though it has theoretical security > advantages (because unlike Windows, you can't remotely query FreeBSD > and ask it the name of its administrator account), it probably isn't a > good idea. A quick search turned up problems when people tried this in > Debian, and I would expect similar issues in FreeBSD. But if you try > it, I'd love to hear the result. > > If you are worried about remote logins to the root account, that is > actually disabled by default in FreeBSD. The biggest hazard you face > in that area is that if you configure SSH to use PAM login, the PAM > subsystem can allow remote root logins when you think they are > disabled. You have to be careful to configure SSH (and anything else > that uses PAM) correctly in that situation. > > - Bob Johnson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:16:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8287B1065672 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB138FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59FFEB4912; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4200160CD5; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:04 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ea4FsC3ouh24; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-211-38.home.otenet.gr [94.64.211.38]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53826160C75; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BJG3Be038373 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1BJG2RH038368; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthew Seaman References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <874olocpmc.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4B73B9F0.1020105@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4B73B9F0.1020105@black-earth.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:00 +0000") Message-ID: <87hbpntwge.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Lin Taosheng , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:16:06 -0000 --=-=-= On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:00 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >On 11/02/2010 05:23, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:18:30 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >>>Lin Taosheng writes: >>>> Is that possible to implementated? >>> >>> For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, >>> but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, >>> create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad >>> Idea. >>> >>> As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" >>> account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other >>> hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to >>> accomplish your objective: would you care to share? >> >> The kernel doesn't really care what your user *name* is. See for >> example the 'toor user in '/etc/master.passwd'. > > On the other hand, lots of software expects the superuser account to > be called 'root' because that what it always has been ever since > Thompson and Ritchie et al. first created Unix. Changing the name of > the superuser account, and making root into an unprivileged user will > cause you much wailing and gnashing of teeth. It doesn't really buy > you much in terms of improved security in any case. Far better to > concentrate on making it impossible for the existing root account to > be compromised. This is a good point. One can argue that the specific applications are those that are broken if they do not use a tunable option to switch the name of the 'privileged user'. But that doesn't negate the fact that precisely *this* type of applications exists out there and will break. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkt0V3EACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7bshwCdEXnOkpPSGV0KbIeKzkwvNF3q 3fsAnjt9tW6rj1+aZ2iHM6YUF1ATDzdm =41a8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:19:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265CA106568F for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD318FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BJJGEp006626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:19:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1BJJGEp006626 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1265915957; bh=Ikg797V142mphs/mcoUJbZlWaLN7jdpZRkwCHSnmEZY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B745834.1010309@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2011=20Feb=202010=2019:19:16=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac= 20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7)=20Gecko/20100111=20Thu nderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Pierre-Luc=20Drouin=20|CC:=20RW=20,=20fr eebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Memory=20disk=20"a=20 la=20mfsroot"?|References:=20<4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net>=09<4B 741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk>=09<20100211153925.7b88844d@ gumby.homeunix.com>=20<4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20 <4B743A16.9020201@pldrouin.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B743A16.9020201@p ldrouin.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain= 3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=CHJtn2tb7R0roPIDXOfUFpQpdX8ZU+WF9EmkmfAju8Y177b2KRCL2Qv+VuUApvuFq hQTzes9BdyddRHuvw9wUJRT9y3eII53MxQv2XiNj1p9XF2unDt8nuK9v0ugRB3wVX3 EJd+ws3LZ5amuFpXX6dYKp3GEAmYGz0J8Y3d3vsY= Message-ID: <4B745834.1010309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:19:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Luc Drouin References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B743A16.9020201@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B743A16.9020201@pldrouin.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:19:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2010 17:10, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >> Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of mounting a .iso as a >> cd9660 filesystem. Which won't muck up the underlying .iso, but only >> because it's read-only. You could mount a FFS image read-only in >> exactly the same way -- I think there's a 'last mounted on' field in the >> backing file image that will be updated if the it is writable (even if >> the fs itself is mounted ro) but that's not the right answer either. >> >> Basically, you're going to have to mount and initialise as two separate >> operations as far as I can see. >> > By this do you mean that I would need to copy the whole content of the > read-only filesystem to the memory disk? Yes. > I looked at the man page for mount_unionfs and there is a big warning > saying that it is a bad idea to use it, so I guess I will pass on this > solution... Ah -- that warning is probably a bit more alarming than it really needs to be nowadays. unionfs can be used pretty effectively for many purposes. Try it and see what happens is the best policy. > What I am trying to do basically is to mount a filesystem from a CD but > I want to use a memory disk to allow write operations. I would basically > want the filesystem to behave like a regular read-write filesystem, but > not have to copy everything into a memory disk. What does "mfs_root" do > exactly in the official FreeBSD boot CDs? Does it copy the content of > mfsroot.gz into a memory disk? That filesystem is so small that I guess > it can be copied without any problem... mfs_root does exactly that: it creates a memory based filesystem and then expands a tarball of the system into it. One approach you might consider is mounting your CD image read-only as per usual, but creating memory-based /tmp and /var partitions[*]. Most of the usual root and /usr filesystems don't need to be read-write at all. There are only a few special locations that do and those will need special handling. You will need to initialise your memory-backed /var partiton by expanding a skeleton structure into it, but that's going to be pretty small really. You will also need to make provision for editing various files under /etc -- you might be able to create a /var/etc and replace the real files in /etc with symlinks to copies in /var/etc. Possibly. Or you could just have /var/etc nullfs mounted on top of /etc. I've read reports from people setting up such things -- a while back now, but as far as I recall they were on the whole successful. Cheers, Matthew [*] There are already scripts to do this sort of thing within the base system, although primarily aimed at diskless systems. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt0WDQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyWgwCeMHjE7VsdHx5HLGQw75SplJ9v 6zUAni7BZsLYsp2qGSFUUMmkjpVMYomt =4SwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8469106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600998FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE75EB490D; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514BB160CD3; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:28 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tOjYMwrLzQAt; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-211-38.home.otenet.gr [94.64.211.38]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055D3160CBC; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1BJVQBF038466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1BJVQU3038463; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Adam Vande More References: <6201873e1002110815l312da12fr5388956f32465516@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002110815l312da12fr5388956f32465516@mail.gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:15:12 -0600") Message-ID: <87d40btvqp.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python script to backup installed packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:31:30 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:15:12 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > Sometimes you have need to backup installed packages. I realize most > port management tools do this automatically, but if you're on a system > with a lot of packages installed and one port management tool fails > and you use another to fix it, /usr/ports/packages can become jumbled. > > Anyways, I've written a simple python script which will create a fresh > snapshot of all installed packages. These are convenient for backups > or installing on a new system. > > For anyone interested: > > from subprocess import Popen, PIPE > import os > s = Popen('pkg_info -a | grep : | grep > Information',shell=True,stdout=PIPE).communicate()[0] > > pkg_location = '/data/packages' > > packages = [] > for line in s.split('\n'): > info = line.replace('Information for ', '').replace(':','') > packages.append(info) > > os.chdir(pkg_location) > > for package in packages: > s = Popen('pkg_create -b ' + > package,shell=True,stdout=PIPE).communicate()[0] Nice script! My own version was initially written in sh(1) to avoid having a Python dependency. Then I rewrote it in Python too. FWIW, you can probably save a few replace() calls and avoid the need for a full array of all the packages by yielding the package names: from subprocess import PIPE, Popen as popen def listpackages(): for l in iter(popen("pkg_info", shell=True, stdout=PIPE).stdout.readline, ""): yield l.split()[0] for p in listpackages(): dostuff(p) My own version groks an os.environ['EXTRA_PKG_CREATE_ARGS'] option too and inserts the extra options before the ["-b", "package"] arguments of pkg_create, so that I can run the script for example with: env EXTRA_PKG_CREATE_ARGS='-Rvn' ./savepkg.py This way package dependencies are saved too (-R option), the output of the `pkg_create -b' command is slightly more verbose, and saving the same package multiple times doesn't overwrite existing packages of the same version (-n option). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:32:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13635106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B158FC21 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so1528382gxk.3 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:32:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=d8FhPvXzQnxsw55HZuSt3Xxa4PKmxC9GcHn3qFGCHSY=; b=AIygfJueh1fZsaofi2JtuETHP1uBHdNXrKffbTnz4cWYMNqTrpgPS4CbRUnApQXdIr XYELz49RmLxkeOkVTd/61e7U/iOXdlD0ZqLPx+rQN7t8XR83gCH+x6hgp6LUH4hJ2e/F sgHJGAIMJTHoDvkldtgZE4MeubxbslfpD4BnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dKqq0S/MFMIG5af6xmvWezhT2g3G/pbM8C5W72SQ7Yf4tZCZRUlPBevGEh4uz/7G2Z z+9k1uED2Uu+FKG1e8X+FrEFYHlIjtS+tOwxJFNnwumwZKeTyeVsxxboIv0VJwViU3/a mGvkVgaNPteCS2ESWEd02tXFWkTdI0hSHG/VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.153.11 with SMTP id f11mr203096wfo.155.1265916722098; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:32:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100211190840.GB73100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <5ffa459b1002102005i6b03c6fcqc1d4a11f590164d4@mail.gmail.com> <19315.37670.468383.119569@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <54db43991002111058r1d8d1244mff110ec0b6f69046@mail.gmail.com> <20100211190840.GB73100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:32:02 -0500 Message-ID: <54db43991002111132s11569d8aj9b390d72c1725240@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Lin Taosheng , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:32:04 -0000 On 2/11/10, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:58:07PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > >> On 2/11/10, Robert Huff wrote: >> > >> > Lin Taosheng writes: >> > >> >> Is that possible to implementated? >> > >> >> Yes, use vipw to edit the password file. Add another username that is >> UID zero. The name "toor" is actually already there as an example of >> how to do that, but it is disabled because it has a "*" in the >> password field. After the new username is tested and you know it >> works, use vipw to replace the password field for "root" to an "*". >> Then root will still exist, but it will not be possible to log in to >> it. You could also delete the entire line for "root", but that gets >> farther into unusual territory and increases the chance that you will >> break something else by doing so. > > If I take what the OP said literally, you are answering backwards. > The OP asked if it is possible to name a different account root - eg > one that is not UID 0. You are answering that it is possible to > give an account other than root a UID 0. > > Now, the OP may have meant to ask what you are answering and just > got it mixed up. But, that was not the way the question went. Oops. Rats. When I started my reply I had it right, but by the time I finished I had confused myself. Thanks. Anyway, it's possible, but in practice it probably won't work right, and doesn't do much for security anyway. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 19:45:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B61C1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E2D8FC16 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1684260fxm.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:45:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IKkAB1UQJ2YRzuy0e7a+eRHydjeG3hPMMgWsMzBCyGs=; b=r9w7OKgpq2Epw2PfLdiX6zkt2T6XQY18J6XVYBoBchfqzeoehnDVGoYLwHP7pM1oi6 S+ekh1cidKsABPQz5Vb4ImI9z+qBDQoGJFDbIfX7xiVsMxNiyV+9Am1Rzo9jZ9/b+nHk ofx8uruG+u/oq+MMgVF0O+fk2+VzjllbNmSss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=KYoVoUdk8Nhrj25BG79cANyklPVTiKE+sUKXS2P/SXr+2Esn7gXv67XzU56uzne6Iv rxIPW9VVsSAgdfwoBD2iiFb3YPHJwmooTaOwXiy86eaA38QlElxkR0G/1QtN1pOHWSNX 07iuKmQvDN2gNrIKJzl1rYl08UOZMlQqSzEr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.148 with SMTP id c20mr34755hbh.124.1265917545530; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:45:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:45:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:45:47 -0000 > What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? a) no idea b) Sorry for leaving that out: 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 c) Boot the computer and watch tty0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 20:00:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E8D106566B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f189.google.com (mail-pz0-f189.google.com [209.85.222.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F18FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so239070pzk.27 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:00:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8EbotzZozRDTO1pYHrL/PZ7G7exqOUXIwyJghNCdgeY=; b=F3ZH/O7q/l9tnZbQNtgxg3QTYzym37yQuh844JXZbdTSNPEbZuaEGClRwi7ooBWSIG YmRtg8mMKtSeXYSUgRYySVRfzzYh4YvckzpKgiXHuHwO+xZCm/rq6K+OW9r3AoomdMCE 8uwcDdqQnMioSqyisg61hVtfLmjETjmjmm7p8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HnW6ErM1HfGAoEeWDPOpHBkr5zbleFLv67aezaGZdD3vgAtWMdpjJIDq374alKfmGP 8ISTldq6A4NUP04bffSHeypFKOy1mr8i80AncmYh/Ic62bIT1nANxjkc8Agn8qzRFeuT 6HXSppBFLH95zkNfbOEUNwO/1lAoeeayv30W8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.1.32 with SMTP id 32mr232237wfa.94.1265918451955; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:00:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> <539c60b91002091337s6dc7cbbejfef28f1e8f027c25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:00:51 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002111200m1f239086mae6e0780d19c1f21@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:00:53 -0000 >> HAL & DBUS are evil bloated hogs. =A0mount always worked fine for me. > > (Mount?) =A0Of course dbus and hal aren't required. Right. I'm saying mount works fine. I didn't need a large, buggy replacement for it with a million dependencies, just to look at the contents of my usb drives, although the linux people seem to think I do. Why they decided to add all this crap as a dependency to X is completely beyond me. FBSD annoys me when I can't check my bank statements because gnash, linux-f10-flashplugin, etc, all crash, but it doesn't outright fail to build or run like a badly configured linux box, and when it does, portupgrade -Rf blah usually saves me. > AllowEmptyInput bad, AutoAddDevices good. Whatever. Just trying to be helpful. AllowEmptyInput still works on my boxes, so I was passing the secret knowledge. The handbook does oft lag reality. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 20:15:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1F8106568F for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66358FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.117.23.34] (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5A2AB6C6C; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B746575.4010501@pldrouin.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:15:49 -0500 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4B7419F5.7050602@pldrouin.net> <4B741E56.8010002@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100211153925.7b88844d@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B74283B.1070903@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B743A16.9020201@pldrouin.net> <4B745834.1010309@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B745834.1010309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory disk "a la mfsroot"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:15:52 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/02/2010 17:10, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > >>> Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of mounting a .iso as a >>> cd9660 filesystem. Which won't muck up the underlying .iso, but only >>> because it's read-only. You could mount a FFS image read-only in >>> exactly the same way -- I think there's a 'last mounted on' field in the >>> backing file image that will be updated if the it is writable (even if >>> the fs itself is mounted ro) but that's not the right answer either. >>> >>> Basically, you're going to have to mount and initialise as two separate >>> operations as far as I can see. >>> >>> >> By this do you mean that I would need to copy the whole content of the >> read-only filesystem to the memory disk? >> > > Yes. > > >> I looked at the man page for mount_unionfs and there is a big warning >> saying that it is a bad idea to use it, so I guess I will pass on this >> solution... >> > > Ah -- that warning is probably a bit more alarming than it really > needs to be nowadays. unionfs can be used pretty effectively for many > purposes. Try it and see what happens is the best policy. > > >> What I am trying to do basically is to mount a filesystem from a CD but >> I want to use a memory disk to allow write operations. I would basically >> want the filesystem to behave like a regular read-write filesystem, but >> not have to copy everything into a memory disk. What does "mfs_root" do >> exactly in the official FreeBSD boot CDs? Does it copy the content of >> mfsroot.gz into a memory disk? That filesystem is so small that I guess >> it can be copied without any problem... >> > > mfs_root does exactly that: it creates a memory based filesystem and > then expands a tarball of the system into it. > > One approach you might consider is mounting your CD image read-only as > per usual, but creating memory-based /tmp and /var partitions[*]. Most > of the usual root and /usr filesystems don't need to be read-write at > all. There are only a few special locations that do and those will need > special handling. You will need to initialise your memory-backed /var > partiton by expanding a skeleton structure into it, but that's going to > be pretty small really. You will also need to make provision for editing > various files under /etc -- you might be able to create a /var/etc and > replace the real files in /etc with symlinks to copies in /var/etc. > Possibly. Or you could just have /var/etc nullfs mounted on top of /etc. > > I've read reports from people setting up such things -- a while back > now, but as far as I recall they were on the whole successful. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] There are already scripts to do this sort of thing within the base > system, although primarily aimed at diskless systems. > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkt0WDQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyWgwCeMHjE7VsdHx5HLGQw75SplJ9v > 6zUAni7BZsLYsp2qGSFUUMmkjpVMYomt > =4SwV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Thanks, so I think I will do the following: 1-Create a mfsroot.gz with empty /usr, /var, /boot/kernel and /boot/modules directories and have it mounted through loader.conf 2-Create a rc.d script that is called immediately after rc.d/conf and that does the following: -Mount /usr using mdmfs and an independent backing file on the CD (so this way the whole content of /usr would not be loaded into RAM) -Create a 500MB memory disk and mount it in /memdisk -Create /memdisk/{var,tmp,root,home,usr} -mount_nullfs /memdisk/var and /memdisk/tmp on /var and /tmp respectively -copy the content of /root and /home (i.e. just a few config files) to their respective directories in /memdisk -mount_nulls /memdisk/root and /memdisk/home on /root and /home respectively -mount_unionfs /memdisk/usr over /usr 3-use populate_var="YES" in rc.conf to automatically populate the /var directory So using this I would have a read-write file system without loading the whole content of /usr into RAM, I would minimize memory usage by regrouping all the writable directories into a single memory disk and I would also minimize the amount of data that is copied from the CD to the memory. Does it sound like a good plan? I read something about a limit of 45MB for mfsroot.gz to prevent kernel crashing. Have you ever heard about this? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 21:26:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD8106568B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E7D8FC1C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1BLQVbF022615; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:26:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1BLQVnh022612; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:26:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:26:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b91002111200m1f239086mae6e0780d19c1f21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B70F3EE.9090201@sbcglobal.net> <539c60b91002091337s6dc7cbbejfef28f1e8f027c25@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b91002111200m1f239086mae6e0780d19c1f21@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:26:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorgconfig missing FBD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:26:32 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Steve Franks wrote: >> AllowEmptyInput bad, AutoAddDevices good. > > Whatever. Just trying to be helpful. AllowEmptyInput still works on > my boxes, so I was passing the secret knowledge. The handbook does oft > lag reality. AEI is still there, but gets misused and causes other problems. On FreeBSD it was used to address an early bug, since fixed. Then it became seen as the way to disable hal in xorg. It can cause trouble doing that, though. So if you're trying to disable hal devices in xorg, first try Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 21:31:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D344E1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from pop.cape.com (pop.cape.com [209.213.66.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEB08FC23 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.cape.com (pop.cape.com [127.0.0.1]) by pop.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E8718906E6; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209.213.65.25 (SquirrelMail authenticated user crtb) by webmail.cape.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34388.209.213.65.25.1265922809.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Chuck Bacon" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: crtb@cape.com Subject: gv&(kernel|X) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:01 -0000 I'm running, to quote uname -a: FreeBSD tomato.local 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #1: Fri Jan 22 19:50:14 EST 2010 root@tomato.local:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/TOMATO amd64 on an ASUS M4A785-M motherboard with an AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor. The following symptoms of ill behavior were present on a previous AMD system with 8.0-RC3; my alterations to the kernel consisted solely of omitting parts of no use on the present system. gv first: Page numbers aren't recognized, so you can only go forward. After the last page, a blank page is presented. kernel or perhaps X, is next: From an xterm, I typed ctrl-alt-F1 to look at something. Upon return to the xterm by alt-F9, I discover "0~" as if I'd typed it in, which wasn't there before. "cat|od -c" reveals it's (to quote): "033 [ 2 0 ~ \n" . I don't remember what that does, but I can't find anything changed in X. Avid hobbyist fan of FreeBSD since 386BSD Chuck Bacon - crtb@cape.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 22:07:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67023106568B for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F568FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CDF1E7FE; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:07:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o1BM7e7c002676; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:07:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:07:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Chuck Bacon" Message-Id: <20100211230740.3d694fbe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <34388.209.213.65.25.1265922809.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> References: <34388.209.213.65.25.1265922809.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gv&(kernel|X) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:07:44 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:29 -0500 (EST), "Chuck Bacon" wrote: > kernel or perhaps X, is next: From an xterm, I typed ctrl-alt-F1 to look > at something. Upon return to the xterm by alt-F9, I discover "0~" as if > I'd typed it in, which wasn't there before. "cat|od -c" reveals it's (to > quote): > "033 [ 2 0 ~ \n" . > I don't remember what that does, but I can't find anything changed in X. Sounds familiar... VERY familiar, and started (for me) with the transition from 5/XFree86 to 7/X.org. I think what you see in the xterm is the content of your edit buffer. Try it: Select some arbitrary text with the left mouse button (so as if you wanted to put it somewhere with the middle mouse button), but then switch to text mode. Upon your return to X, the text you selected is output. The fun starts when you select text with more than one line (so it contains one or more \n) and then return to X with the focus of an xterm. Just imagine you selected "rm -rf ~\ndf -h\n" somewhere - oh you will LOVE your backups! :-) Sadly, I can't tell you how to get rid of this strange behaviour, but I can assure you that it hasn't always been present. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 22:35:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86FF106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:35:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from my.nwsgrp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF538FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1493399bwz.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Z8NY90X8uSVTxIYmYIsOdC7jMpU5vp58vGpxSWmOrWU=; b=KO2pDX1DlcLLhwp/nFW9m7XhLkP8bdOVqSau0P/Gfvjcl3Cw87Gm+Xg2/728UH9fFr NZ6uIbfRsZktMrg83KV9xUcGNBSrOVx7/YhPjdqN0MCKLciiLAOKL2vHdGLB0XPd+Nw3 v7yqAs0hnxgMIueoNa7KhPDxu48fBRenIkdP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bi79Uplj8/ACKnnGw16ZvYlRazoxyEfqSoGNLqcs0ZKaHfporXAN4u0IHjQhmzV8vq WwNtWZ34GS2RnxLNCtrEksQ3m1/vfiFhI1Z6TPHGnj7aRqXM+Y6Up+MCvWJO4V1MFZ9Y NDYhtkGnum10Q1sNbdIP0Fs6u3ZbpyWxL30iM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.49.70 with SMTP id u6mr303850bkf.56.1265923991092; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:33:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:33:11 +0300 Message-ID: <626ad50e1002111333r276ac7f2nffe64e95f1e5dd4a@mail.gmail.com> From: GLADtr GLADtr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:35:44 -0000 Hello my friends! Help me please with its problem. I`m don`t understood what it is problem... *mx# uname -a* FreeBSD mx.taricat.ru 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 25 09:28:38 UTC 2010 root@mx.taricat.ru:/usr/obj/ usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 mx# *mx# ping 127.0.0.1* PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ^C --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss *mx# ping localhost* PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ^C --- localhost ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss *mx# ping `hostname`* ping: cannot resolve mx.taricat.ru: Host name lookup failure *mx# ping google.com* PING google.com (74.125.87.103): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 74.125.87.103: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=188.367 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.87.103: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=180.537 ms ^C --- google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33.3% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 180.537/184.452/188.367/3.915 ms *mx# ping 10.10.0.113* PING 10.10.0.113 (10.10.0.113): 56 data bytes ^C --- 10.10.0.113 ping statistics --- 193 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss mx# *mx# ifconfig* xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9 ether 00:01:03:09:2e:b4 inet 10.10.0.114 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 10.10.0.127 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3 inet6 fe80::1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 nd6 options=3 mx# *mx# netstat -rn* Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 10.10.0.126 UGS 2 97 xl0 10.10.0.112/28 link#1 U 2 465 xl0 10.10.0.114 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 Protocol Family 28: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire (28) 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 (28) 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 UH lo0 (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 link#3 U lo0 (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 link#3 UHS lo0 (28) 0000 0000 0000 ff01 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 U lo0 (28) 0000 0000 0000 ff02 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 U lo0 mx# *mx# less /etc/rc.conf* hostname="mx.taricat.ru" #ifconfig_xl0="inet 91.198.171.167 netmask 91.198.171.128" #defaultrouter="91.198.171.129" #ifconfig_ste0="inet 10.10.11.100 netmask 255.255.255.0" #pf_enable=YES #pf_rules="/etc/pf/conf" #named_enable=YES ifconfig_xl0="DHCP" sshd_enable=YES #pflog_enable=YES #clear_tmp_enable=YES #smartd_enabled=YES #samba_enable=YES #nmbd_enable=YES #smbd_enable=YES #samba_config="/usr/local/etc/smb.conf" #zfs_enable="YES" /etc/rc.conf (END) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 11 23:00:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326CA106566C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2C08FC1C for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfi16-00070S-5H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:00:12 +0100 Received: from k.saper.info ([91.121.151.35]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:00:12 +0100 Received: from saper by k.saper.info with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:00:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Cieslak Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: http://saper.info Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: k.saper.info User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Link to File for JDK16 tzupdater-1_3_21-2009p.zip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:00:19 -0000 Dnia 19.01.2010 Diego Montalvo napisał/a: > Been trying to install /usr/ports/java/jdk16 and get an error stating > need to place "tzupdater-1_3_21-2009p.zip" into > /usr/ports/distfiles... have gone to sun and file is no longer there, > and have searched internet for it but to no avail. For the archives: http://42.pl/u/27NV_tzupdater-1321 (or https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/DownloadSingleSoftware-Start?ProductRef=tzupdater-1.3.21-oth-JPR_Multi-language_with_Generic%40CDS-CDS_Developer). --Marcin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 01:14:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D51065672 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0C58FC13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1563584bwz.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:14:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1AKJ6zwCCAJKuFsQteWp9M5yaLE3FSHZTUyLejEBnFQ=; b=udkdP5y8wseycFsFlhmtricjKFOg/17U9L+GZrFzCTjtjB84gE+1mUnkjEvH74n0Hn oJXWNDyHZQzLaOQ0bpduA//1NiqOeSWNSQh36CjQdR53M+7sj3/zE5V8UO5XzqVBVzaq F/5yo4W2xxRF+vpdhcYBOkjsL/WlGkpvDalmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ga8jr4Ir2Dy1gKbRQVDWrk0N4AP6Njk2vgLPZqbZzfuQmbjUwrWQHcLBGlL/fKDUho QXWKVBG/wFo6+6biAOaqxAahh08DkgXzgpR+VDblKMbL9x4BouVx4Bj61sT5Y5siT9VY SKd00yXed5yWHI/Pu2C6POktQD60Hs1JzVmng= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.9.153 with SMTP id l25mr370366bkl.208.1265937272855; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:14:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:14:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: Liontaur To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:34 -0000 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 9 February 2010 15:59, Mike Jeays wrote: > > > > > If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user > mode, > > and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is > all > > covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you > may > > be out of luck... > > > > May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without > physical access, if > you get my drift! > > Hope you do have physical access Eric.... > > Chris > > May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who knows how long. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 01:24:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098C1106566C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A353F8FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032123A3883 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:24:29 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1265937869; x= 1267752269; bh=3epQ1TT3fN+1tlfobfmiAo054cyAVuRXs1Zl046yLtA=; b=U 4eHQ+V6vj38XFnl2+gqYpwgTfFlmD9jaO9qqs5rHjIO1HhWBQd69vU7JDQD3TEDE J4xLlkYPASntouDPuNmSv8v6Bv1d0mxJTFrFjcPv+QwdngjKMrKysMpCjU7BciWU D2FDG+In1h7m/HLOKcJhTL7LK3ogAOrTp4lYvXIv2E= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 63-7NHlmb+dQ for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:24:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34AA13A387B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:24:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1C1OS3o015060; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:24:28 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:24:28 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Liontaur on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:14:32 -0800) References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:24:32 -0000 > > > If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user > > mode, > > > and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is > > all > > > covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you > > may > > > be out of luck... > > > > > > > May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without > > physical access, if > > you get my drift! > > > > Hope you do have physical access Eric.... > > > May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple > of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password > and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who > knows how long. I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack into his own system? Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 01:50:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1215A1065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xsappyx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979398FC21 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1964306fxm.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:50:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MpXGeKTOdWE6btWeGhUCDMFNQD2I3McoJlxSMaLits4=; b=FkoktRh0AqXMcTuAuwEtWDseY0yat8rVAMsEtuOuUJ768caYrW5nTRVl25BZxXreaT AqBLAuxS1NrzWFD8rbzL25XfnFYpRBN16eE2W/g5Y45NKM6352MatbHrotEjTV/hdsTE u3oUSbRHtUd5RGS7ZvT66uosx+prGY/Os/Cmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PL7gGUq5OUm+gzyYN1Ip+wLAIism3CAAC2BXEcgw1uwczpJb1SwDQw3HcOk0fhKFGI Ify2Phz8sRmjga8U3ytNUsS+HhlldEGZ+jCtyLwgqPV5venPvNGs78W0efEZ+Gb6Ro/z ElPs5w0Bij2daiI7zAgHeSeRddiN/yO3/LvVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.188.129 with SMTP id p1mr73972hbh.190.1265939454504; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:50:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100208150000.GA62607@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100208195807.GC8690@guilt.hydra> <87hbpqz8wp.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:50:54 -0800 Message-ID: <8206ae961002111750k55e33a0cu29bad4ee775a83bb@mail.gmail.com> From: xSAPPYx To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: alex Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:50:56 -0000 Using a phoronix link as an example, ext4 still has some pretty bad data loss bugs: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0OA imo: data security of ufs > speed of ext4 ymmv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 01:58:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2B2106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp2.comclark.com (avmxsmtp2.comclark.com [202.69.191.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E608FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4851 invoked by uid 89); 12 Feb 2010 00:34:44 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 4844, pid: 4846, t: 0.0454s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.91.2/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.173.143) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2010 00:34:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:39:51 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-jails@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:58:45 -0000 Christer Solskogen wrote: > Hi! > > I've just began scripting a small tool for creating jails, much like > ezjail. But instead of creating a own basejail, jailcfg mounts /bin, > /lib, /usr/bin, etc. from root. And this means that the footprint of > one of "my" jails is just about 3MB :) The script is in very early > stages, but it's a start. Get it by doing: hg clone > https://jailcfg.googlecode.com/hg/ jailcfg > Feedback is welcome! > Your URL dont work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 02:35:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B25E106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403458FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj7 with SMTP id 7so128853pwj.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:35:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4+sIvVDPe3WgDMH38yfyscxbYDC+tfoDwUzJlujhnps=; b=tx7IohqRTCEwHt0PBkfcQZViKcKXL5UCq/lSZ/gbrjF+BIkTwtZqd2jKcEG1EwNqVV nyUOc9OIgDVxTADvTcmEK+Yn17hoZs/rTf/3DKXJcT5wm0QPz7acSiW+ae0MyQ5txGCy 8zipC2qow8stFTYm6K/dcSgBOGY/6EqJfMBkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kq7WUPENIEEN7LmOPnkYHfmciKdti7MdopJN0owpqlCeg+SNNn3yciUNFZw7kvrcou CVh9GAuqVoof9D2fJXlWu2mlUtKxUKCW2fmp20jseRivrrdaIWrZP0pfQgvdwvXufEIQ s8RbnOcfSl8wRInIbEfBeXZClCS3RL1XdJ3O8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.19 with SMTP id w19mr492897wfh.194.1265942116809; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:35:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87d40btvqp.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <6201873e1002110815l312da12fr5388956f32465516@mail.gmail.com> <87d40btvqp.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:35:16 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002111835p7836d8e0xd35c7765c6069f1@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python script to backup installed packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:35:22 -0000 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > My own version groks an os.environ['EXTRA_PKG_CREATE_ARGS'] option too > and inserts the extra options before the ["-b", "package"] arguments of > pkg_create, so that I can run the script for example with: > > env EXTRA_PKG_CREATE_ARGS='-Rvn' ./savepkg.py > > This way package dependencies are saved too (-R option), the output of > the `pkg_create -b' command is slightly more verbose, and saving the > same package multiple times doesn't overwrite existing packages of the > same version (-n option). > > Thanks for the tips, I may add some of your functionality to my own. I think I might add a couple more features like accepting a backup path from the command line and an auto create for the dir if it doesn't exist. One other thing that might be useful is for it to automatically create an install script for the backed up packages which takes into account dependencies. Almost have a package management system like some other unnamed OS's then. ;) -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 03:31:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DD0106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF728FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FA2EB4830; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:31:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C6F160CD3; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:31:00 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2iJklGS8kxA6; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:31:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-227-136.home.otenet.gr [94.64.227.136]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE231160CB9; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:31:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1C3V0Z3030796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:31:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1C3Uxlp030786; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:30:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Adam Vande More References: <6201873e1002110815l312da12fr5388956f32465516@mail.gmail.com> <87d40btvqp.fsf@kobe.laptop> <6201873e1002111835p7836d8e0xd35c7765c6069f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:30:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002111835p7836d8e0xd35c7765c6069f1@mail.gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:35:16 -0600") Message-ID: <873a175dvw.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python script to backup installed packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:31:02 -0000 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:35:16 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > Thanks for the tips, I may add some of your functionality to my own. > I think I might add a couple more features like accepting a backup > path from the command line and an auto create for the dir if it > doesn't exist. One other thing that might be useful is for it to > automatically create an install script for the backed up packages > which takes into account dependencies. Almost have a package > management system like some other unnamed OS's then. ;) This is bordering on creeping featuritis, so I would probably avoid going there. If you *have* a backup of the packages, you can start by installing portupgrade. Then you can point portupgrade at the package archive and use the -PP option to install all the dependencies. Then you can avoid all that and just use something like: cd /mnt/backup/packages/All pkg_add vim-lite\*tbz This will automatically install any packages vim-lite needs, as long as they are available in the current working directory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 04:05:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB5B1065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f189.google.com (mail-pz0-f189.google.com [209.85.222.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F658FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so753301pzk.27 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:05:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=F1q1edSfVZYOlz2NOaj47ZevHA8G3H8gb53bF9laGQ0=; b=l4WEX49dJq68ZtqMeabvGlYylCO0VmwSM2HnB2ngedAA6to9JSdnMweaEc7pwQqaJF IsVPWjOuntPjU+vUKQ9qRxMyx9a5tbnrP5VPvc1/dpCloLn4wWaSf5WJ/CW5qfGgNpRm qtuYAxuiKNcMw9M933HGZIIKUGOizBvjsLaAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aVtcQNIgKyGG7Jna1mvPSurau0spmz1NQmNRaLdRufIi8wwc9WwDxuY7QJMavvmwkM pbi0zpDURmS6jazKuSECgs2XuyFzARuDMfDP8Ws+38jIOdNA8S7Nvi5AepY5NOmM8Pkt re9Bd7D/yiLvwsMX1MUaOBqixI4Not79grH6Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.152.11 with SMTP id z11mr564014wfd.71.1265947536925; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:05:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:05:36 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002112005q652cef4fxb3467c842f5c009c@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: rpm trashed my system with linux so's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:05:42 -0000 Yeah, I admit it, was really stupid of me to try. All those linux ports go willy-nilly running rpm's thru your system, so when linux-flash-plugin-f10 crashed after install, I just *had* to hunt down it's dependancies and try installing them. Main thing is that portupgrade -f gamin is *not* putting fresh bsd copies overtop the bad linux ones I stupidly installed, and anything with gtk is now useless (shared object 'libselinux.so.1" not found, required by "libgio-2.0.so.0"), which is pretty much everything. Short of reinstalling everything from CD, do I have options? Bugger. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 04:30:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880941065672 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B5F8FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:30:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from [17.151.125.161] by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KXP00E19OHLKG60@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:29:48 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002110263 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <539c60b91002112005q652cef4fxb3467c842f5c009c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:29:45 -0800 Message-id: <1A230A51-F9D1-4BC0-BD6D-B544F1A23F77@mac.com> References: <539c60b91002112005q652cef4fxb3467c842f5c009c@mail.gmail.com> To: Steve Franks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: rpm trashed my system with linux so's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:30:12 -0000 On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > Main thing is that portupgrade -f gamin is *not* putting fresh bsd > copies overtop the bad linux ones I stupidly installed, and anything > with gtk is now useless (shared object 'libselinux.so.1" not found, > required by "libgio-2.0.so.0"), which is pretty much everything. > > Short of reinstalling everything from CD, do I have options? Sure. First, however, please note that it is (presumably past) time to obtain a working backup mechanism for any system that you care about. Consider the output of "find /usr/local/lib -mtime -2" (or some other # of days). You can use pkg_which to identify the port which should have provided a native FreeBSD library; use pkg_delete -f _portname_ or similar measures to more forcefully remove these Linux .so's. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 04:36:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1681B106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B18FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o1C4aRi9054156; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:36:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id upPTMV7O+pPj; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1C4aJDi054150; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:36:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4B74DAC3.4060707@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:36:19 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GLADtr GLADtr References: <626ad50e1002111333r276ac7f2nffe64e95f1e5dd4a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <626ad50e1002111333r276ac7f2nffe64e95f1e5dd4a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:36:29 -0000 GLADtr GLADtr wrote: > Hello my friends! Help me please with its problem. I`m don`t understood what > it is problem... I doubt I do either, but I'll bite. > *mx# uname -a* > FreeBSD mx.taricat.ru 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 25 09:28:38 > UTC 2010 root@mx.taricat.ru:/usr/obj/ > usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > mx# > > *mx# ping 127.0.0.1* > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ^C > --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- > 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss > > *mx# ping localhost* > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ^C > --- localhost ping statistics --- > 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss What does `ifconfig lo0` say? Anything in /var/run/dmesg.today about lo0? > *mx# ping `hostname`* > ping: cannot resolve mx.taricat.ru: Host name lookup failure What about `head -n 40 /etc/hosts`? Looks like the machine can't find its own address. `cat /etc/resolv.conf` ? > *mx# ping google.com* > PING google.com (74.125.87.103): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 74.125.87.103: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=188.367 ms > 64 bytes from 74.125.87.103: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=180.537 ms > ^C > --- google.com ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33.3% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 180.537/184.452/188.367/3.915 ms > > *mx# ping 10.10.0.113* > PING 10.10.0.113 (10.10.0.113): 56 data bytes > > ^C > --- 10.10.0.113 ping statistics --- > 193 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss > mx# > > *mx# ifconfig* > xl0: flags=8843 RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9 > ether 00:01:03:09:2e:b4 > inet 10.10.0.114 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 10.10.0.127 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > options=3 > inet6 fe80::1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > nd6 options=3 > mx# OK, you don't have an `inet` (IPv4) address configured for the lo0 device. That's the issue. Try `ping6 localhost` or `ping6 ::1`. > *mx# netstat -rn* > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 10.10.0.126 UGS 2 97 xl0 > 10.10.0.112/28 link#1 U 2 465 xl0 > 10.10.0.114 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0 > > Protocol Family 28: > Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire > (28) 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 (28) > 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 UH > lo0 > (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > link#3 U lo0 > (28) 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 > link#3 UHS lo0 > (28) 0000 0000 0000 ff01 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 (28) > 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 U > lo0 > (28) 0000 0000 0000 ff02 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 (28) > 0000 0000 0000 fe80 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 U > lo0 > mx# > > *mx# less /etc/rc.conf* > hostname="mx.taricat.ru" > #ifconfig_xl0="inet 91.198.171.167 netmask 91.198.171.128" > #defaultrouter="91.198.171.129" > #ifconfig_ste0="inet 10.10.11.100 netmask 255.255.255.0" > #pf_enable=YES > #pf_rules="/etc/pf/conf" > #named_enable=YES > ifconfig_xl0="DHCP" > sshd_enable=YES > #pflog_enable=YES > #clear_tmp_enable=YES > #smartd_enabled=YES > #samba_enable=YES > #nmbd_enable=YES > #smbd_enable=YES > #samba_config="/usr/local/etc/smb.conf" > #zfs_enable="YES" > /etc/rc.conf (END) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 07:00:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C6C106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas.e.zander@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f199.google.com (mail-px0-f199.google.com [209.85.216.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470A68FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi37 with SMTP id 37so1412973pxi.9 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:00:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=YTvxfs5al2zF0LILWoxTJkiJXd5AJJl0DuRXCCrDgnE=; b=UfE11kmUHgu8Hxi98CRgYTM2gbynH47xR8hDzH9b0vXaLXj8fstfzlanCstuiFMmbC NLoZ9Oft0IpUC//iMTPgVmVsfNTgiQkeDrVAeX2Yw9DhMaX7otdyB6PfT/sX9ykX3R/n Ps+C36EP5YiSjlny/+8XMdmVHxi553n5TWmao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=QK4nqGT/dUZWiIiTIZDuYqF6d4H2OkkQzJ9Bp4e9gNBHw2fIoBuZgn2NCcSWEF5DEj eyDE/1d96OG/6oqhIKHQpBafrwdUtt+mzk+yzeW+XH1WccRNXT7fhP9kfm7G5V6exvlA 0wIJLAQaQE35fzdTwlV66bV++PY7xexpy9CKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: thomas.e.zander@googlemail.com Received: by 10.141.91.14 with SMTP id t14mr643726rvl.86.1265956253407; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:30:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:30:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6cce59f1f292ce94 Message-ID: <786602c61002112230h21465d1bq4903d16fbed352cc@mail.gmail.com> From: Thomas Zander To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openal-soft X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:00:30 -0000 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 00:33, b. f. wrote: > [openal-patch] There exists already a PR for this. If the committers are willing to commit it during the current ports freeze, it'll be in the ports tree soon. If not, don't worry. As soon as the ports freeze is over, there will be a substantial update to the mplayer and mencoder ports after the freeze, where the switch to openal-soft has already been made. Riggs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 07:23:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2351065679 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255478FC13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2200655ewy.13 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:22:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mNoL3wTuYoFQ1vDAYvSxvaDbQ+cNMoUbZXmFOlShPU0=; b=q0vHdQDadWiTopLJvYU9HumSE/U97HK40oJ+rsp9JcqdSIxJcSLRClgmWFSz8jIqF8 akPtSm+KrWWGTX2t2wSG/+eWBhFKmWxA8t5Zjs4gmc9ii5sIHcG5C38Yb78gl6njzz7J BhoDPALrYjhfMQJKD4PdSZQOwAypOchXX48jA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=O8EAP6tND/Q0EdgMpfXxT1PPxgpxEyYWEVaXJw04ojjQ14oVur9zYA71O0FATpqmJu h7wLBCVU2uI+2iyWbD8bHK5WtJMZlHSd747M6d/hXwo7ahO+5lplFSMbd75Z++34YxgW z0dhSE91dzkDvxcuhFcpIZDc6OAXM6SYOTmHY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.37.82 with SMTP id w18mr641240ebd.97.1265959379029; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:22:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> References: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:22:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:23:00 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Aiza wrote: > Your URL dont work > Yes, it does :) But you need mercurial to get the source. But the project also have a "homepage" - http://code.google.com/p/jailcfg/ -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 08:50:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDC11065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BEF8FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfrE3-0000Rg-7J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:50:11 +0100 Received: from 122.193.5.98 ([122.193.5.98]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:50:11 +0100 Received: from taosheng.lin by 122.193.5.98 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:50:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jason Lin" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:43:15 +0800 Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.193.5.98 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Sender: news Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0000 I try this method, after set the password of "toor", I can't login with the account "toor". "Bogdan Webb" ??????:c81e6afd1002102307l2b089a76p36a8d67d3085a1e5@mail.gmail.com... > Edit the /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd records to change the uid and > gid of the "root" account BUT FIRST MAKE SURE YOU ADD (or changed password > of) ANOTHER UID0 ACCOUNT > here's an example: > etc/master.passwd: > root:*PASSWORD HASH*:99:99::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > > and /etc/passwd > root:*:99:99:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > > > check the "toor" account it's already created by freebsd but it doesn't > have > a password, 1st apply a password for that account, triple check that it's > usable then edit the records (keep in mind that the 99 uid and 99gid in my > examples are fake try giving your's the uid and gid of the "nobody" > account, > or someother) > > cheers! > 2010/2/11 Anthony M. Rasat > >> Lin Taosheng wrote: >> >> >Is that possible to implementated? >> >> No. I think not. But I have not tried it either. >> >> Can I ask what do you want to achieve? Because I had the same thought >> once, >> concerning how to combat once-increasing script-driven SSH brute-force >> attack. But I was instead have a better solution using fail2ban to easily >> thwart those SSH brute force attack. Is that your situation? >> >> Regards, >> >> Anthony M. Rasat >> Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division >> PT. Jawa Pos National Network >> Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor >> Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 >> Indonesia.- >> Phone 02132185562 >> Phone 081574217035 >> Fax 02153651465 >> Web http://www.jpnn.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 09:59:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D58106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gormi456@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F233E8FC13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so2178264fxm.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:59:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UEJAuUW5eLJwv7Hz9ZtfzTuVEez/nhmSCXQKCdBdT3w=; b=N2WP2mMtfz5UpIV/Y7qMYvHoWY/1jQ1f0mFi2NH8hujKI8mZVSQ/snZkTj1ViuX1MQ JpxWIh0TcIxl0i3Kq35WVmpkt2Tb/AOkB2bMv9VJuvt/NxVmY/4NvxurZ2s/yNw6PD4E jxDo+j3o1t7XWTTNBVsD/FtFTbMU2dyRDiWuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lBtaXmF3hokGBjxet4+Bpwf8AvfRFlYLSld2pA5XbmLj8kLtyyt5Bu3lYVpYI5XBJ3 vfc7DLmQAvho+52xsc8Iy+E9JTP4Pc1/2u4L2zJ8SqlsOhtYRdRDf1fihTFL2lE0f6p3 v/GxisnFOqx5WyzvrLU5w25bs/8PN2/L4+zTY= Received: by 10.87.51.9 with SMTP id d9mr2262718fgk.35.1265966961812; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.31.35.40? (17-106.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr [83.206.106.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm2046841fga.20.2010.02.12.01.29.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:29:20 +0100 From: Julien Gormotte User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:59:57 -0000 Le 12/02/2010 02:24, Olivier Nicole a écrit : >>>> If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user >>>> >>> mode, >>> >>>> and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is >>>> >>> all >>> >>>> covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you >>>> >>> may >>> >>>> be out of luck... >>>> >>>> >>> May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without >>> physical access, if >>> you get my drift! >>> >>> Hope you do have physical access Eric.... >>> >>> >> May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple >> of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password >> and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who >> knows how long. >> > I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know > about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack > into his own system? > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 11:18:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC7B1065672 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C118FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2396188ewy.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:18:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DF9736F31DxHXQvjbe20VY/YougzddTNDErBwcW1DIc=; b=P0c4fNa8MTnvQwioVpguZe5ryxBU1RCZt7Fpyvk0lSEsRqEya6mo+4paZKJNlubTwn NrUz8Es3PYlJI2QtKqzwS6WFW4vBShkVvpGR3EvGNOTcJ/7jkIBpzjF+CIARl7CYk+RF 4NExX1x61nMKV6erjJ/SczZ4AKm3K7axq2HeU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oyIfIdsxTzkmFJvN/MJ0bznwJpVQYp0AoilnoOb5SAaPBhbA/O56WUaD1ifDWLAeg0 yLa5bf7NtbygTqrG2K57I8HLrffi4tnMUykttOpad4aQ/GhRpa47r0TxVQGmbFwHuHA7 OpdGkV3anz9dcrYu/mV5cWveIlbdQCWISIlnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.109.73 with SMTP id i9mr872817ebp.52.1265973138575; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:12:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:12:18 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002120312s3cb778a0l1d856b7376a280fa@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:18:09 -0000 On 2/11/10, Eitan Adler wrote: >> What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? > a) no idea > b) Sorry for leaving that out: 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 > c) Boot the computer and watch tty0 Does it happens also if you load module (bcmwl5_sys.ko) after boot via kldload instead via /boot/loader.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 14:05:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BA1106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C578FC1B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id o1CE5Op68321; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:05:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:05:24 -0600 From: John To: Julien Gormotte Message-ID: <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com>; from gormi456@gmail.com on Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:29:20AM +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:05:28 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:29:20AM +0100, Julien Gormotte wrote: > Le 12/02/2010 02:24, Olivier Nicole a écrit : > >>>> If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user > >>>> > >>> mode, > >>> > >>>> and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is > >>>> > >>> all > >>> > >>>> covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you > >>>> > >>> may > >>> > >>>> be out of luck... > >>>> > >>>> > >>> May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without > >>> physical access, if > >>> you get my drift! > >>> > >>> Hope you do have physical access Eric.... > >>> > >>> > >> May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple > >> of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password > >> and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who > >> knows how long. > >> > > I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know > > about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack > > into his own system? > > > > Olivier > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server > hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can > boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you > can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 14:19:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DBB106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8304B8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj7 with SMTP id 7so185744pwj.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:19:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5kRk5K28Y8XJTFlzDLD8AD7P8ReiwG16f8mCl0zXouE=; b=ONBhUlj1YgihN6IrH2k1IcCxK0nGUXxBlJb+nLNIj0ivCwdZKJWsIN+Q6AADyDhZD+ 5nAaZNaXlylVZMtVfvB9wHg0UzC80BPXskaMlviV6HgSnHzijJkv0Tan8BlELuGkX4Wg Z5OJVxT2FJj6/P41AYpvSI1ThXPFSUisbmZS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vtNmUrlQnZRE3Qp3XyIpj6smBb99jeQqbaEMTG+HbTKm45gv7YV8rdOiQbOHBhX1fH 8a2Lpkz3l6j3ZHGiLukaRvjOW9MyUi1brS6aob3Z2N7SoWQhaakPP4UKVU8VjddK639T DbLIr9zdIIXWwyyNs7D2p9/SxESXkZcQT1jEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.25.1 with SMTP id c1mr666047wfj.17.1265984371076; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:19:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:19:31 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: John Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Julien Gormotte , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:19:31 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John wrote: > People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to > break into FreeBSD servers around the world... > > The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization > to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo > situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, > if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine > back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised > access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root > password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE > event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure > or a NIC failure. > > Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely > or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their > systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! > > Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to > tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) > Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 14:49:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C7E1065692 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay2.cape.com [216.237.97.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B6E8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA96DF937; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:19:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:49:47 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: More on strange 8.0 issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:49:49 -0000 >From my mobo, ASUS M4A785-M, and uname -a: FreeBSD tomato.local 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #1: Fri Jan 22 19:50:14 EST 2010 root@tomato.local:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/TOMATO amd64 Yes, I've tried GENERIC for all these issues, and also an i386 image! Mobo problem? I sent email remarking on inconvenient behavior on gv (no page numbers, can't go backward) and X (from text mode back to X sends "esc [ 2 0 ~" to stdin). Here's another, and a real trouble spot: I have two CD-DVD drives, one PATA and one SATA. Neither can burn a CD, returning either busy or error. I had to burn the 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso CD on my old iBook! And yes, I also replaced the ATA drive with one from another box. Final issue, probably no answer. I installed a ubuntu distro on my /dev/ad0s2, with -s1 and -s3 remaining FreeBSD (no -s4). My boot loader shows F1 FreeBSD (an older 8.0-RELEASE, GENERIC) F2 Linux (new ubuntu) F3 FreeBSD (/backup) F5 Drive 1 (a couple more 8.0-RELEASEs :-) When I hit F2, I get the the first FreeBSD. Linux is bypassed. When I installed ubuntu from the CD I didn't rewrite the boot. Could I have boot FreeBSD if I had installed grub? Perhaps I should ask a Linux forum :-| Many Thanks for previous help through the years, and to Polytropon, whose suggestion about buffering some text and testing the "esc [ 2 0 ~" behavior, didn't work, but may lead somewhere! Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 14:54:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77531065676 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gormi456@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3B78FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so33424fga.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:54:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=qouiFi0VeyI6nCaqIvD6DGL+SaVI1gVxFyV5qNd1sBQ=; b=fb94ViISewbHprskQkXlctFDy2Vh7Mlk5A1obBsQplwnmkmz2GqUNAYk10t1CxzCR1 0pLd516h+s/5q2mfmuHqEN5ROpaQMeyhyVcb1iwe6BKvRQ8r4VUQXX4bEocUWXEfKev5 6q6UngCkvLN/kQbVl44Uy8VWW6zHc2n0g4Vac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=Se56kf/FoBH4NYDGrA6MDVNwOeOhikEJCkQcLZoLTG52a1LEFJYpPzyv4NzUfmogSL qlqhbuVg4tZ4i/vSZ/dxpEpk2tH50Zt1WMlBVH6UwPsy6dj7p+FJR5fQxb+7fT0anClD CYE9mlw+Ux3qQp7i8NZ6ZFmlSCvAhEL2zgE24= Received: by 10.87.63.33 with SMTP id q33mr2964213fgk.24.1265986453059; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.31.35.40? (17-106.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr [83.206.106.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e3sm1128522fga.6.2010.02.12.06.54.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:54:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B756B93.7070008@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:54:11 +0100 From: Julien Gormotte User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:54:14 -0000 Le 12/02/2010 15:19, Adam Vande More a écrit : > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John > wrote: > > People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to > break into FreeBSD servers around the world... > > The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization > to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo > situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, > if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine > back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised > access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root > password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE > event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure > or a NIC failure. > > Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely > or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their > systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! > > Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to > tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) > > > Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. > > > -- > Adam Vande More I have to agree. Plus, these ways of setting root password are not "breaking into" the server. If you have a KVM over IP, it is like physical access. And rescue disks are used for these kinds of situation (among others, like kernel config errors and such). These methods are just what they are : recovery methods. In a dedicated server situation, you are supposed to be the only one to have access to the rescue systems. If we were discussing about gainig root privileges from a normal user account, or remotely (using security holes in php scripts, or in CGI, or... any other thing...), your complaint would somehow make sense (but in fact, it wouldn't, because these security holes don't have to be hidden, they have to be corrected). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 15:11:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F29A106568F for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E673A8FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so2673856pxi.14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:11:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7nsEJPNyaorRsXYkNJ7YJMyueW/jmdN5wGB889xxsDw=; b=NPuqe5xs65g4VCAlyAzUjobJv9bCiS0Qo6ZeV3sVv/EqPjyp1rqKYogF23/PyXZ6ba oOLbW9HOx3O1wrnEVPPaQu5nujql+Dmk6l8rdUrJbG7MN7r/en/dOmZakvrRP1rLUrug oxi4/8j+SLrhUk1+nX18fWaViEojMAOyAT5Gg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=o94Mqk5bD6C4hkbgN+DqA/jUJbnZlXphXs0THa0FbLr9woHaLUH9YAt1dKUoG+iadb LWNEr3s+hrupjzAN1+GmF259u9vUMLuPU7ZGti34MhLxbKEIOp70JhzVQyeaJPm8YsIm UlmjXwzTaeNTrX15PtP9P5j9pkM4BqtFpVVw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.9.10 with SMTP id 10mr996592wfi.177.1265987480430; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:11:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:11:20 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002120711j61c06b83u99bc5edb736bf81@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Chuck Bacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More on strange 8.0 issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:21 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Chuck Bacon wrote: > I have two CD-DVD drives, one PATA and one SATA. Neither can > burn a CD, returning either busy or error. I had to burn the > 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso CD on my old iBook! And yes, I > also replaced the ATA drive with one from another box. > It's really extremely difficult to assist you with the amout of information you provide. Why would you not include the specific commands you've tried and their error messages? Have you tried the burning a cd instructions presented in the handbook? Take note of the cdrtools section as that may be more useful than burncd depending on you situtation. Final issue, probably no answer. I installed a ubuntu distro > on my /dev/ad0s2, with -s1 and -s3 remaining FreeBSD (no -s4). > My boot loader shows > F1 FreeBSD (an older 8.0-RELEASE, GENERIC) > F2 Linux (new ubuntu) > F3 FreeBSD (/backup) > F5 Drive 1 (a couple more 8.0-RELEASEs :-) > When I hit F2, I get the the first FreeBSD. Linux is bypassed. > When I installed ubuntu from the CD I didn't rewrite the boot. > Could I have boot FreeBSD if I had installed grub? Yes grub can boot freebsd. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 16:01:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC771065696 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC838FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D078B0D for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.cran.uk.to (client-86-26-87-194.nrth.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.26.87.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:04 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2255178.sc76Ci78ed"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002121601.11973.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Subject: Mounting a v1.5 UDF filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:10 -0000 --nextPart2255178.sc76Ci78ed Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to mount a UDF filesystem ("mount -t udf /dev/acd0 /mnt"), and a= m=20 wondering if the error I'm seeing is because the DVD I have uses an=20 unsupported revision. I have a v1.5 DVD which I know is ok because Windows = 7=20 can use it; on FreeBSD the kernel fails to mount it with with the message "= =46SD=20 does not lie within the partition!". I'm wondering if it maybe only suppor= ts=20 the newer revisions? =2D-=20 Bruce Cran --nextPart2255178.sc76Ci78ed Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJLdXtHAAoJEFeHpytq9vmeZ0cH/3bsDBoyz5ZWVQNc5WXkIuKB YWMSrte7iIRkbqXYI11ww2A/wlMChEta+7Zg3TeKIps66E/r5THm18d4OWwB4teW 0sEkXda51cY7O93uTLvFdICRytq5F0PDAjUMkxTqTAf0b0JmYA2Mjq+w710VqUDP L9fLO1Ae7HtsivFlis3DivNWW3n4sFiPibmeu73AQBTDpXAXlnAX5zOsGLH3WnDP U9aYRefsAgDnelPeQxtFNJpmxZ1pimYKtNlMUqJ+Zp/0/q9ss0APi1RtErCfhFEM R6m6gQ5f5gpAy+bDJP6hMgnpSkWjFdbxBxHTJI6AfV/vW+n72sCh1zMz5A+CwC0= =L3YS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2255178.sc76Ci78ed-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 16:17:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3751106566C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA538FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so2768554pzk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:17:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qdSdxdeJwmkY6t61OXS39ZH1YsltAe+xygYmVbzVnVE=; b=pPpNOOVNZwQrWGnvbkIQQG60JfwUsAi8+VYMwy1FDI77x2Sm0Na6wd2ugdN63MDMHo lQYcfJOO1b4Alhm9wiC/mYYv92p1e2J2y7rE0sGp3lWMT7yRiSacFsWFMUHuC+mfioGN bXRLRoe5pdQZw7v2ukfXEkZWYSGMGvmd1ep0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VtQSEeQkXVlyYsDWfZbr7BcjqkjzSKs34lEe8llzXM8a6bPkuYr9khG8cGHfz1MpU/ v4e3r1Pefymm6OqlAjAJHJ5+q1n5mSe6hlhq5atRLpM1T7YjHXYYrvGWkz6knNG6RKfL NxJFI4thnh1cT18M5Y+/kgkNUA9MwpT0YoSPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.56.11 with SMTP id e11mr1049072wfa.272.1265991451103; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:17:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:17:31 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002120817x42e9f81jddede6c85f67e26e@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: solved: Re: rpm trashed my system with linux so's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:17:31 -0000 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Steve Franks wrote: >> Main thing is that portupgrade -f gamin is *not* putting fresh bsd >> copies overtop the bad linux ones I stupidly installed, and anything >> with gtk is now useless (shared object 'libselinux.so.1" not found, >> required by "libgio-2.0.so.0"), which is pretty much everything. >> >> Short of reinstalling everything from CD, do I have options? > > Sure. =A0First, however, please note that it is (presumably past) time to= obtain a working backup mechanism for any system that you care about. > > Consider the output of "find /usr/local/lib -mtime -2" (or some other # o= f days). =A0You can use pkg_which to identify the port which should have pr= ovided a native FreeBSD library; use pkg_delete -f _portname_ or similar me= asures to more forcefully remove these Linux .so's. > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > Ok, got lucky: linux sticks everything in /lib, which is in the default path before /usr/local/lib, hence the madness, and hence why portupgrade won't fix it (it rebuilds most bsd .so's in /usr/local/lib). Just rm every .so file that gets complained about missing dependancies from /lib, and you're back in the land of the living! That was "fun".... Anyone know where the "right" place for rpm to put real unix libs for use with compat? compat/lib? Anyway, thanks, all Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 16:13:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465C71065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from esteban.ramirez@conectar.biz) Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com (mail-qy0-f189.google.com [209.85.221.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE968FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so1551297qyk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:13:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.113.19 with SMTP id y19mr769166qap.323.1265989472309; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:44:32 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [190.26.249.18] Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:44:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3bd8d1cc1002120744j765c9c8fwdd5ad0e90b4cc5b5@mail.gmail.com> From: esteban ramirez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:27:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with VPN ipsec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:13:21 -0000 i m triying to do a host to host VPN and i have the next error , i check that port 500 is free. 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: open /var/racoon/racoon.sock as racoon management. 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: my interface: fe80::230:48ff:fed4:768f%eth0 (eth0) 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: my interface: ::1 (lo) 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: my interface: 64.56.64.32 (eth0) 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: my interface: 127.0.0.1 (lo) 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: configuring default isakmp port. 2010-02-12 10:22:58: DEBUG: 4 addrs are configured successfully 2010-02-12 10:22:58: ERROR: failed to bind to address 127.0.0.1[500] (Address already in use). 2010-02-12 10:22:58: ERROR: failed to bind to address 64.56.64.32[500] (Address already in use). 2010-02-12 10:22:58: ERROR: failed to bind to address ::1[500] (Address already in use). 2010-02-12 10:22:58: ERROR: failed to bind to address fe80::230:48ff:fed4:768f%eth0[500] (Address already in use). 2010-02-12 10:22:58: ERROR: no address could be bound. -- Esteban Ramirez Ramos Ing Desarrollo e Infraestructura Conectar.biz +57 2172457 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 17:04:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737D5106566C for ; 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Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:49:20 +0000 Received: from EXKDC-CAS01.corp.gianteagle.com (10.100.20.101) by EXKDC-EDGE01.corp.gianteagle.com (172.16.93.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:36:04 -0500 Received: from EXCH-CCR01.corp.gianteagle.com ([fe80::cc9f:a0d:54d5:48db]) by EXKDC-CAS01.corp.gianteagle.com ([fe80::647d:29d1:eee1:d4e1%12]) with mapi; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:46:08 -0500 From: "Barnard, Jeremy" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:46:12 -0500 Thread-Topic: GEOM: the secondary GPT table is corrupt Thread-Index: AcqsAuK7uR30jkAaS3SHMsgzHbJ7lg== Message-ID: <74C7B2B413DADC40B13137AECC2B100D4A904CF6F9@EXCH-CCR01.corp.gianteagle.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Reverse-DNS: unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: GEOM: the secondary GPT table is corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:25 -0000 Do you have any idea how to clear up: GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. It has not caused any issues, but I'd still like to eliminate the errors wi= thout causing data loss. I have two WD drives in a software mirror booting= freenas from a USB stick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 17:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8454A10656A5 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305C08FC25 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9422748; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:19:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9422745 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:19:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4B758D9C.3030708@radel.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:19:24 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090502060902060000070803" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:19:43 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090502060902060000070803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John wrote: > >> People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to >> break into FreeBSD servers around the world... >> >> The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization >> to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo >> situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, >> if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine >> back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised >> access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root >> password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE >> event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure >> or a NIC failure. >> >> Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely >> or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their >> systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! >> >> Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to >> tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) >> > > Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. > > Quite. In any case, the OP started out by telling us how he had plugged a monitor into the server, so we're several degrees removed from reality by this point. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090502060902060000070803 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 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-0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:10:38 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100212181035.GA3948@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:10:42 -0000 Guys, this has happened once before with kde Konqueror; but i can't remember where/what i clicked. maybe somebody onlist can help me. When i click on a link on Konq, a popup / dialog displays asking where i want to save the link; it =does not= move me to the linked page. --there are some links i want to save but i chose those links, rarely, from the Location menu. i just clicked on the Location -> "Open with firefox3 " dropdown. On FF, I can click on various links and actually go there. {{ sometimes a reboot fixes this save-page problem; not this time. }} anybody? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 18:20:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414501065707 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BCE8FC27 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1CIKVTm015326 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:20:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:20:31 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100212182031.GA4021@thought.org> References: <20100212181035.GA3948@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100212181035.GA3948@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:20:35 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > this has happened once before with kde Konqueror; but i can't remember > where/what i clicked. maybe somebody onlist can help me. When i click on > a link on Konq, a popup / dialog displays asking where i want to save the > link; it =does not= move me to the linked page. --there are some links i > want to save but i chose those links, rarely, from the Location menu. > > i just clicked on the Location -> "Open with firefox3 " dropdown. On FF, I > can click on various links and actually go there. {{ sometimes a reboot > fixes this save-page problem; not this time. }} > > anybody? > > gary > > I just tried again and now Konq did send me to the hyperlink... Was i hallucinating? dunno.... -g > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 19:07:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39581065692 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280628FC26 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2910852ewy.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=66pRH7uN8jxmwFrZ88GQDmXuoQcnkSwzozVCWeY77Ec=; b=YvNztRHseJ7A1DtQarDn6EhpJ+kD8M0RymptifjctTNfBZqnNLi0Km7RNkGgIm+yJR VBHklbb9u8hK8gKxkCaIInheirOInbIb9BaeQLcmzjav6XgVZPmDZHleLvkDk2jPPHoH tpBuXmFOTQg03toaWeisk2hOfBwe1Jo5raKqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b5hF1Xp9nOeDzSutiJjBrrTlkYsbRpHRGj1XAHNra1jZD5cXgnZFdF8hINfwn2eydn hpowdiEuqnPucB4HQ/WuQhDwAtgKmhVHs+d2lPOxONmSJeGzGT7FpCqHZaWcD6wHdIhA xwKbcXKXF9ioOrox6MtYas8r3DjZXPLNLuBrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.21 with SMTP id t21mr328529ebb.99.1266001635152; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:07:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:07:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Better processor, SSE3, crypto? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:07:16 -0000 Hi. I'm stretching a couple machines with spare parts. I've got a midrange P4 Northwood 2.4G/533 SL6PC and a lowball P4 Prescott 2.4G/533 SL7E8. They're apparently missing 64bit, HT, NX, VT and friends. To me, the Prescott only seems better by 512K more L2 cache, SSE3 and more heat for the winter. Are either of those two used or help a single focus like crypto... geli/gbde/ssl [aes]? I figure the cache will always help userland, maybe buildworld. Kindof a dumb question, I should probably just test and reply to myself :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 19:14:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D8106566C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from system.jails.se (unknown [IPv6:2001:16d8:cc1e:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9919D8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (system.jails.se [87.237.210.209]) by system.jails.se (Postfix) with SMTP id 52A21A2076 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:13:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.25.0.40] (c-f306e155.166-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.225.6.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by system.jails.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1ADBA2073 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:13:58 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:13:58 +0100 Message-Id: <47679777-8D3D-4629-BDE1-CF9FA346B827@pean.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 12 20:13:59 2010 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4b75a87616297276113336 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, Received*cipher+AES128, 0.40000, Message-Id*8D3D, 0.40000, a+qemu, 0.40000, Mime-Version*Message, 0.40000, Subject*QEMU+IPadresses., 0.40000, a+conflicting, 0.40000, org, 0.40000, if+someone, 0.40000, Date*12, 0.40000, adress+I, 0.40000, Received*12, 0.40000, certain+IP, 0.40000, Received*client+certificate, 0.40000, Date*Fri, 0.40000, pean, 0.40000, To*questions+freebsd.org, 0.40000, Received*7+64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se, 0.40000, Received*TLSv1+with, 0.40000, virtualization+to, 0.40000, X-Mailer*Mail+(2.1077), 0.40000, Content-Type*8859+1, 0.40000, Content-Type*text/plain+charset=iso, 0.40000, Content-Type*charset=iso+8859, 0.40000, Peter+Ankerstål, 0.40000, Mime-Version*1.0+(Apple, 0.40000, Date*Fri+12, 0.40000, I+mean, 0.40000 Subject: QEMU - IPadresses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:14:07 -0000 Hi, I wonder how you restrict "user inside" a qemu-virtualization to a = certain IP-adress. I mean, what happends if someone decides to change to a conflicting IP? -- Peter Ankerst=E5l peter@pean.org http://www.pean.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 19:39:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7DA106568D for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0C8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118AD57379; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:39:10 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=Z WWhfNl6CTLXGjl5a7wRcld+OU3p2FdcI78Nvtj4y1M=; b=oqBo5EUrl6k9/4Trk N0iqkIAjUDslFbDBr1vqZEs88nO903ljFpOY/mNBnLDb5eJqQs799tTpT7DSgPer tkQyAGx7R6t94uT7/LKzCLhoQjf3jxIuPPHJ6bOeMMhCaWeXSllbj+cHosjTz+mr OiufAfdbwSQV4IimSRdqXEYgDM= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7746457378; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:39:09 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E473A1CD73; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:39:04 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: Gary Kline References: <20100212181035.GA3948@thought.org> <20100212182031.GA4021@thought.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: X11/GNOME Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:38:54 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20100212182031.GA4021@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:20:31 -0800") Message-ID: <86y6iyi6r5.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:39:11 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > [... long line snip ...] > I just tried again and now Konq did send me to the hyperlink... > Was i hallucinating? dunno.... Hi Gary, how about GNOME's epiphany? Recently i settled down at epiphany for web work. That looks good to me. Sincerely, -- "We'll meet him later." -- Michael Corleone, "Chapter 1", page 42 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 19:48:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A986B106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 644208FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91993 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2010 19:48:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1266004110; bh=mbyXsjJnMrCgsWLkMV05H3ItrMDJtgV/iUqLhmKPN+0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1NoNIuw+vaMP92bxZmQBaOuWlXUJWO+zZumVFK4DUQ3yrcrN7ICcJqw3RG2PAhWtyg7YS5dRXqCzA9DwkVR2SRVDovwBI+oY56unaOyWX/Rq2FmystW0lK35vi6KptbRKNijYP5S73lwhIAX+GYbVofH7NA31FTTvvXLB2zRw/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wrup4scOCbwCND7yGlL3/nyKFV+49dDmNsKhANnTA5emYbb5LWOTzjefPu0BVQ+97KpHndabL3iUzkfMWM5618wpM3rOn9yJZxHqD8Tm5uBoPflcFn6vzexBjNGq/9G9NUx02OC8GZITJ1r98eJQuY4rnxIbFgpPeTSgvLF3WdU=; Message-ID: <319226.90868.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CeXQd6oVM1lcf08c8Eye0uP._dlK1JsRxMxEKxlHOS4hDSE1Ahf.7j88TQPm.4mFsTXBAGNg4Hj1QHsB1.a6rXm1M7_yU97qQkp7R1AsWsBBk6P8hMB1rTGFYOEZM0cj13wMf0uqhhGStKmrirWzqXFilBchb.UA7hcA4_wsldmabri9sqkxlw.sSEmO46Ubpzen03qR97yXYbu.fytY7XYRhh5YRAsUVj6ftmfsqA.S2rbXFh7Z3TD.yerwCRF48WFoQI9QM4diSFNAWees6e.ApJ8IYTb24WVYPJ7fySulcJhZBFFJAOEhHSFnRl4bo7uuvGbkpJ9oeyTFTY0ejseox4ZXAnAdQ8vfXUlQmtHSwfpYJYjkRxlE1TZFRPj8_PM- Received: from [85.144.145.49] by web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:48:30 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:48:30 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sshd: did this one get a password prompt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:48:31 -0000 Hi freebsd people, My sshd_config file doesn' t have root listed in the AllowUsers directive.S= o everytime I see entries like the following in my logs: Feb 12 01:23:54 dual sshd[11016]: User root from 208.75.83.30 not allowed b= ecause not listed in AllowUsers Feb 12 04:07:43 dual sshd[11775]: Did not receive identification string fro= m 218.65.110.180 Feb 12 04:11:05 dual sshd[11790]: User root from 218.65.110.180 not allowed= because not listed in AllowUsers That looks " normal" However,today I saw the following entries in my log: Did not receive identification string from 202.98.244.20 Feb 12 14:06:12 dual sshd[12837]: User root from 202.98.244.20 not allowed = because not listed in AllowUsers Feb 12 14:06:13 dual sshd[12837]: error: PAM: authentication error for ille= gal user root from 202.98.244.20 Feb 12 14:06:13 dual sshd[12837]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for inval= id user root from 202.98.244.20 port 34209 ssh2 Feb 12 14:06:14 dual sshd[12837]: error: PAM: authentication error for ille= gal user root from 202.98.244.20 Feb 12 14:06:14 dual sshd[12837]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for inval= id user root from 202.98.244.20 port 34209 ssh2 Feb 12 14:06:18 dual sshd[12841]: User root from 202.98.244.20 not allowed = because not listed in AllowUsers Feb 12 14:06:19 dual sshd[12841]: error: PAM: authentication error for ille= gal user root from 202.98.244.20 Feb 12 14:06:19 dual sshd[12841]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for inval= id user root from 202.98.244.20 port 34245 ssh2 Feb 12 14:06:20 dual sshd[12841]: error: PAM: authentication error for ille= gal user root from 202.98.244.20 Feb 12 14:06:20 dual sshd[12841]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for inval= id user root from 202.98.244.20 port 34245 ssh2 That " scared" =A0me because I didn' t think a root session would get a pas= sword prompt, because of the fact that I have configured my sshd_config fil= e where AllowUsers doesn' t contain root! The other thing that "scared" me was that I have this section in my pf file= for ssh traffic:(max-src-conn 3, max-src-conn-rate 2/30, overload flush global) It seems to me that this 202.98.244 violated that long ago but still it las= ted a few times before this address was added to the bruteforce table. What do you think? Thanks in advanced. =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 20:07:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54625106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A1F8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2974829ewy.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:07:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=grA7CCwC7WIowVui9ODzoF3RT6PeUPme2rUg9kfOn0g=; b=bk5Wvepp13mizLTOZkr4TgzPt2ghHzeBPrpyIH0BzBN/AO7jTmJMHdXr/lG/wrXZCy Z/HruzYipng0xzZ5ddEpK0ysxQOMaJYOtVBooxnlSIJBklTLER+xHL6F0eO2L8HMeE+L JLnzcxpGXrPIQewNdvRBATcmen/LvpvjWGYGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FG0IVh27jkHK9n0SEaa1he4e/E7v5YtEAO3Ul0MRDDUU58mpxy3wG+KvR4B5XfXoSe fk+GzgG+hKX7GDLhaLZP8I9SssfV1TdKiHGBUMKOBkJlV1DjHBAm30QUOesoRcHJ4zj8 CBEewWUCiolaN19SbdsvpfTep96d5scYgyPx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.1.145 with SMTP id 17mr419696ebf.46.1266005252234; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:07:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> <6201873e1002120619rc40fb34n98bbb2b0db8b6b43@mail.gmail.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:07:12 +0200 Message-ID: <35f70db11002121207i18b7669avbc118cb89db2e436@mail.gmail.com> To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: John , Julien Gormotte , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:07:34 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Adam Vande More wr= ote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John wrote: > >> People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to >> break into FreeBSD servers around the world... >> >> The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization >> to secure physical access to the server. =C2=A0It may be in a co-lo >> situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, >> if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine >> back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised >> access. =C2=A0Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root >> password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE >> event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure >> or a NIC failure. >> >> Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely >> or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their >> systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! >> >> Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to >> tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) >> > > Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. Agreed, in fact if anything (in my not so humble opinion) open source platforms should ALWAYS publish all known compromises and also lockdown procedures. Doing so would make sure that those of us building the install media and/or default configs do EVERYTHING possible to secure systems from the get go. --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 20:40:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660DC10656E5 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A738FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so3059150pzk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:40:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h4czgK3FqBuW4L8GplWGEFzzOcf0WmhOuWtRh1kJwE4=; b=RSygi3C90FCQoXweN6eB/KgslucEV1AgXedKCBWEU3iyG1/6R+U9ZC7mt4IqOs8gi6 dSO91ixaMnse66LzyAdXGm+Ax+VJIt3mcXinldK/Hl6BgiOAUH35rt7iq9QRJ47t+dSm M62Bgf6kYqVN+K+7VG/dq/348dg6BIEqNw/PQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QLWT0kooHB/U++R1xB3BmquUZF3taMG8thpVyg8cFEocm5CcnVnPrRg+r6zHCfG/lv 0nHKh+GFaW3D4hPb27UUclgzGrv6hU/R0x+W9SYpfTik22765PaYtSyXS3kLruqNXWjU XsT8eBEZ23AWrBb/Geyhojs6vDoVzyN2WVu0o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.7.16 with SMTP id 16mr1264523wfg.117.1266007208806; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:40:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002090341.o193fu5v092928@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201002090341.o193fu5v092928@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:40:08 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e2f8286a03a24eed Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall and mfs Great News and another Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:40:09 -0000 Please create a PR for any problems you find here or additions to install.cfg that you would like to see, and I'll take a look at it. -- randi On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I really hate to give up on anything and I finally found > out my problem with getting sysinstall to use the hard drive > rather than garbaging up mfs every time. The problem is not > something you can set in the partition editor or disklabel > editor. It is found in the very first menu which oddly is > numbered 2 and is the options editor. The option that makes it > all work is one that lets you specify where you want the > distribution to go on the drive. It is always set for you when > using the CDROM unless you were formatting another disk so it is > kind of easy to miss. I missed it for a week and a half. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Now the question. There are a bunch of functions that > can be set in sysinstall such as the bsdlabel editor, partition > editor and dists to name a few. It would be nice to be able to > set that mount point in install.cfg because I am trying to make > a script that coworkers can run to configure a system quickly > without having to waste a week of their own trying to figure it > all out. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0It turns out that one can format the disk, mount > /dev/ad0s1a on /mnt and then one must set the root option to > /mnt and things work so much better! > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Occasionally, /var fills up and I haven't figured out > why but it appears that ftp gets ahead of the ability to store > the files. Whatever it happening, it is now more right than > wrong. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Again, thanks for all your help. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ =A0Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 20:44:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A27D1065672 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5158FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100212204456.NKCQ10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:56 +0000 Received: from [86.25.232.185] (helo=laptop.piggybox) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ng2Nk-0004Wu-Cy for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:56 +0000 Received: from laptop.piggybox (localhost.piggybox [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1CKiwMn044437 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:58 GMT (envelope-from peter@laptop.piggybox) Received: (from peter@localhost) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1CKiwub044436 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:58 GMT (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:58 +0000 From: Peter Harrison To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=FUYDNUxZKD0mtDlQh7QA:9 a=ezJoAWqcbWIg8Rz3W9cA:7 a=vgim7DTReTxn6IEPnLK-H5ijEXgA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Subject: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:44:58 -0000 Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 ---> Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' ===> Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 ===> perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.10. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.10. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100212-42732-1onozbt-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=perl-5.8.9_3 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=5.8.9_3 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/perl5.10 (perl-5.8.9_3) (unknown build error) Any advice on how to fix? Thanks in advance. Peter Harrison. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 20:50:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA365106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AE98FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so2881168pxi.14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:50:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=isL2yoRGITBBDz+YvnYAedb0m/ogcZMQ6NsPphfE4/Y=; b=mxYuqV1Q4DZSWxh7EWqktU2yVm3x82uAmO/T/5T/O+cCqT1BpWD0WPR5lFUlWQ5gxn Az7pLbihQSCDyWl4Pxyi+ZzOdE72/h+HawwiczttVXR0Szd/BhlbDpAQMMko862AffWS YvlTYFQ95cCXyQ2bmt1IL05jes0BnNNA0+Zv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IkLSoAvCkwcU4rs+LH5uEslWQqViwsXF1aJdozEa5liiaRP2OvDVfDy3NFIxAL5MJJ 3R00uuSg/+r4RmEj5oBouRhnG9JpNw6UJNAmAth7IkE6JxOQGusKIgThkr/e4Ri/c8lF EbjncGo7AKzUDg4Wy7WAbbK4KAR6V0Zw9TIWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.32 with SMTP id 32mr1298530wff.6.1266007856185; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:50:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:50:56 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:50:57 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING > that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. > > However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: > > laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 > if you're referring to this: 20090911: AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.10 AUTHOR: skv@FreeBSD.org lang/perl5.10 has been updated to 5.10.1. You should update everything that depends on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use "perl-after-upgrade" script supplied with lang/perl5.10. Please see its manual page for details. If you want switch to lang/perl5.10 from lang/perl5.8 please follow instructions in the entry 20090328 in this file. Then you have misunderstood what it's saying. That only applies to folks already running 5.10 and if you have no need for that then do nothing further. If you really believe you need to run 5.10 then you should follow the complete instructions from the entry. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:04:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E861065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CCF8FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1CL42M9094245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:03 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1CL42M9094245 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1266008643; bh=9jOQzsdB3sb2xgfUk6/79nuqS9gk+JO1faNJUwSeEaE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B75C23A.4090105@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Fri,=2 012=20Feb=202010=2021:03:54=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ad am=20Vande=20More=20|CC:=20Peter=20Harrison =20,=20questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=2 0Re:=20Perl=20upgrade=20problem...|References:=20<20100212204458.G A44419@laptop.piggybox>=20<6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93 463@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c5 3b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Typ e:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3 D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------en ig3C94F45809E2DF050A94171E"; b=QcceI/JTRmm7qtiGejdMJrUq+FQ8PsSXbLpQTd+7S7F2dtxbvIIS3bhw6pdEq8Pcg g3OHkxA0g9JZW6vWuAOUHBBKFXAuWKTrUTFvbIUChsYwCS9Atuo7yMWRB3Y16sXBho s7vx+e1HNzWI9I2OtXV8adXVewAjaccX/Q1b2pQ0= Message-ID: <4B75C23A.4090105@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:03:54 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3C94F45809E2DF050A94171E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, SPF_FAIL, URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:04:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3C94F45809E2DF050A94171E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/02/2010 20:50, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison > wrote: >=20 >> Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDA= TING >> that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. >> >> However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: >> >> laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 >> >=20 > if you're referring to this: >=20 > 20090911: > AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.10 > AUTHOR: skv@FreeBSD.org >=20 > lang/perl5.10 has been updated to 5.10.1. You should update everythi= ng > that depends on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use > "perl-after-upgrade" script supplied with lang/perl5.10. Please see = its > manual page for details. >=20 > If you want switch to lang/perl5.10 from lang/perl5.8 please follow > instructions in the entry 20090328 in this file. >=20 > Then you have misunderstood what it's saying. That only applies to fol= ks > already running 5.10 and if you have no need for that then do nothing > further. If you really believe you need to run 5.10 then you should fo= llow > the complete instructions from the entry. >=20 Err... he's following the right instructions. It's just that since those instructions were written there have been some badly thought-out changes in bsd.ports.mk. Any time you try and use portupgrade to replace one port with another now, you'll likely need to tell it to ignore CONFLICTS settings: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=3Dyes -o lang/perl5.10 \ -f perl-5.8.9_3 Then reinstall every port that depends on perl -- you can't use perl_after_upgrade for this update: the delta in version numbers is too large. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:07:05 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Err... he's following the right instructions. > ports/UPDATING does not recommend to upgrade. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:10:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D477106566C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernan.aguero@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73A8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so2892564pxi.14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:10:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=mttOLu35LhJuOUc4+Na1h9I8bkpHv7O2GZG9Kq/66oI=; b=ZsFJk0WLPbmMoutmzDp7Yayj7iC0kcl9dFo7EpSIOoI3IRPkLxxesyuDH3qCDUqzkR UkweSsgnSgYvF8b39nUPnObhbuCwb6U1Df/wHBtqD169UtJ1porCFqt2h3oindQKUcBd Mz5/+YzGXVDkXj+iwIGJUBcKmwG4Ci7QhP6WI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mQP19XaQ7xalTMlf8wlJu5ZXhY7SEV51jm/qK93OiycNO57idCce6JcbKIE6CXxb6E 1z/c+dxorlFku1ZH3PyXHQcy3dM0tm7tzmUK1KeSr+MTHQZP8XDXYiQhbeT+t1MDL1KZ 6m1cBbuAl1ZqB+wLCqN4/AXcq99dBxfzks/rw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9mr1255722wfh.308.1266007204075; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) From: Fernan Aguero Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:39:44 -0300 Message-ID: <520894aa1002121239s2148ed6dudeae8055fe337d02@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: discrepancies in disk usage between df and du X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:10:04 -0000 Hi, I have a box (7.2-STABLE, amd64) that is currently showing some disk usage problems. It all started with apache generating huge logs from one of the mod_perl applications that is undergoing testing. So the /var partition was getting full. We removed all logs that were causing the problem, but even though du shows some 700 Mb of usage, df shows that the disk is full (-1.5 Gb): [fernan@omega ~] sudo du -hc -d1 /var/ Password: 2.0K /var/.snap 423M /var/account 6.0K /var/at 2.0K /var/audit 18K /var/backups 4.0K /var/crash 6.0K /var/cron 53M /var/db 2.0K /var/empty 2.0K /var/heimdal 219M /var/log 14M /var/mail 4.0K /var/msgs 48K /var/named 2.0K /var/preserve 44K /var/run 2.0K /var/rwho 16K /var/spool 76K /var/tmp 24K /var/yp 2.0K /var/games 710M /var/ 710M total [fernan@omega ~] df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 18G 18G -1.5G 109% /var I've been googling around, and I understand why df and du might be reporting disk usage differently. However, I can't solve this issue and reclaim unused disk space ... applications (apache, mod_perl) are prevented to write to /var and this is causing us problems. We've already tried rebooting the box, restarting the syslog, newsyslog daemons, to no avail. df keeps showing >100% disk usage (-1.5 Gb of remaining disk space) in all cases. We've even rebooted the box with all apache instances turned off in rc.conf ... i.e. without any but the most basic services running (sshd) ... This box is essentially a web server, no other services are being run. Any suggestions as to what to try next? Thanks in advance, -- fernan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:12:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FED51065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0592D8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so3095031pzk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:12:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bhWB8fJSbj1WvPY05I+RJpccsETns0AGNHINGqLNmq0=; b=JVpVzlLQN18AwmYve9asocfFytRLjgK8IrV0srT1D49VI3aeRjzATxGLNkGVDEeVBr bH2W18/f60Si+X6uLorC4mnmZDcz2nEjaQYXzCPbQA2icU/fZlyqZlULRsTf1qSFmqbx OcPDs9kbZcAO5Qy3zHO0fLfDnYFyWS9yVqnxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wuGXUECwr1ESVjowQc/7HTLHNdSDYhxJAWOFAI9E1gZ5jdUfhEu1ZRamh7lxQAbxqJ BaTT4ReBr0Bteova2y6dm2+5UvLmDTqtQJz8SCW5ESo1Gft+e1n6Fqa8y0gybyBREy/r ZYMTP13ZYu8/Gtr2S8bLnhd0ozaJjSLZ5SiJQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.4.42 with SMTP id 42mr1300450wfd.78.1266009148621; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:12:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002121307q25d1743dx86c4356c71aa6fb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> <4B75C23A.4090105@black-earth.co.uk> <6201873e1002121307q25d1743dx86c4356c71aa6fb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002121312g266775abl95044b8b1022b891@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:12:29 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Seaman < > m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> Err... he's following the right instructions. >> > > ports/UPDATING does not recommend to upgrade. > I mean does not "recommend" going from 5.8 to 5.10 as the op has done. You are correctly in the previous entry containing incorrect instructions. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:26:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10EE106566B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4C8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100212212612.OJEK10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:12 +0000 Received: from [86.25.232.185] (helo=laptop.piggybox) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ng31g-0004zt-CD; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:12 +0000 Received: from laptop.piggybox (localhost.piggybox [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1CLQE75044658; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:14 GMT (envelope-from peter@laptop.piggybox) Received: (from peter@localhost) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1CLQEmu044657; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:14 GMT (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:14 +0000 From: Peter Harrison To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100212212614.GB44419@laptop.piggybox> References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=c2i0Ge7yyLu50Roz3r4A:9 a=qDoWFlMnVDrxAUy2qdsA:7 a=0jZVPEit3gVz3n0WByY1TRmiLj0A:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:14 -0000 Friday, 12 February 2010 at 14:50:56 -0600, Adam Vande More said: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison > wrote: > > > Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING > > that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. > > > > However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: > > > > laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 > > > > if you're referring to this: > > 20090911: > AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.10 > AUTHOR: skv@FreeBSD.org > > lang/perl5.10 has been updated to 5.10.1. You should update everything > that depends on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use > "perl-after-upgrade" script supplied with lang/perl5.10. Please see its > manual page for details. > > If you want switch to lang/perl5.10 from lang/perl5.8 please follow > instructions in the entry 20090328 in this file. > > Then you have misunderstood what it's saying. That only applies to folks > already running 5.10 and if you have no need for that then do nothing > further. If you really believe you need to run 5.10 then you should follow > the complete instructions from the entry. I don't need 5.10, but I was prompted to think about upgrading from 20100205. I was trying to follow 20090328, I ran pkgdb -Ff (no problem) then portupgrade -o lang/per5.10 -f perl-5.8.9 which generated the error given. Peter Harrison. > > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:45:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD92106566C for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45CF8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so2914339pxi.14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=N2MGIK3eV0LP7bq+7T9BTAkCrjklpslUKV7TqKb6CR8=; b=fHMTR+oLbs2HoYw83GqbuOQfP75XzUuQ9tRHxhI/EcKBw31CBxyT3NSr8oobmQ2poj p4AY1xfQR2Cu92tuTv1lr1V323IZt3LoahhFN9OFW3qM4aOxc/imU6I7Ssu43LO6Oymi psX7kuEz3MzljkkgLa0l/V7qB11p/jg6aa2c4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=COQqhYhnq0XlmGGXbLX/dlDEY0MUDudQleCQcnV9aey9IwTGzFQOYTCGkiWBbBl+Py wczUPLzFiOE8tR7OaK+0B1tSg1EFiuSgIsnauLkhMrkpyy8DS6JZXgKYr28K0n9pwQRc 0kM2v6yk3SNjpHbayp/BQS6TkabI6Ayv4liO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.59.3 with SMTP id h3mr1331334wfa.93.1266011134132; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100212212614.GB44419@laptop.piggybox> References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> <20100212212614.GB44419@laptop.piggybox> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:45:34 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002121345o1bf4dbe9ve9909f82610ba291@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:45:35 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Peter Harrison wrote: > > I don't need 5.10, but I was prompted to think about upgrading from > 20100205. > > I was trying to follow 20090328, I ran > > pkgdb -Ff (no problem) > then > portupgrade -o lang/per5.10 -f perl-5.8.9 > > which generated the error given. > > > Peter Harrison. > i see, my port tree was out of date, sorry. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 21:58:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF3E1065670 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A89F8FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100212215803.PADA10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:03 +0000 Received: from [86.25.232.185] (helo=laptop.piggybox) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ng3WV-0004f4-3f; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:03 +0000 Received: from laptop.piggybox (localhost.piggybox [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1CLw5vj044732; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:05 GMT (envelope-from peter@laptop.piggybox) Received: (from peter@localhost) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1CLw56m044731; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:05 GMT (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:05 +0000 From: Peter Harrison To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100212215805.GD44419@laptop.piggybox> References: <20100212204458.GA44419@laptop.piggybox> <6201873e1002121250y855fac7v7c53b970cd93463@mail.gmail.com> <4B75C23A.4090105@black-earth.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B75C23A.4090105@black-earth.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtHxNT4mZm3rCuM0SmWmgWxeBwJsziC8EqOrwwVkrhA= c=1 sm=0 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=PMsJ_IBUNxiU-MXRKhcA:9 a=3XWd-6hX18UYmvKRpiQA:7 a=mKlEjPl3X1eidPtj8pFgCxfX3fkA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Adam Vande More , questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Perl upgrade problem... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:15 -0000 Friday, 12 February 2010 at 21:03:54 +0000, Matthew Seaman said: > On 12/02/2010 20:50, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison > > wrote: > > > >> Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING > >> that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. > >> > >> However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: > >> > >> laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 > >> > > > > if you're referring to this: > > > > 20090911: > > AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.10 > > AUTHOR: skv@FreeBSD.org > > > > lang/perl5.10 has been updated to 5.10.1. You should update everything > > that depends on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use > > "perl-after-upgrade" script supplied with lang/perl5.10. Please see its > > manual page for details. > > > > If you want switch to lang/perl5.10 from lang/perl5.8 please follow > > instructions in the entry 20090328 in this file. > > > > Then you have misunderstood what it's saying. That only applies to folks > > already running 5.10 and if you have no need for that then do nothing > > further. If you really believe you need to run 5.10 then you should follow > > the complete instructions from the entry. > > > > Err... he's following the right instructions. It's just that since > those instructions were written there have been some badly thought-out > changes in bsd.ports.mk. Any time you try and use portupgrade to > replace one port with another now, you'll likely need to tell it to > ignore CONFLICTS settings: > > # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 \ > -f perl-5.8.9_3 > > Then reinstall every port that depends on perl -- you can't use > perl_after_upgrade for this update: the delta in version numbers is too > large. > > Cheers, > > Matthew OK - that seems inconvenient, but I guess it makes sense. I remember some stuff on the list about this earlier now that you mention it. Seems to have made a bit of a hassle of replacing one port with another. Thanks for the advice. Peter. > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 > Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 23:48:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B085106568F for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A018FC1A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so3250117pzk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:48:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ABPxTCmg4sGToJ3S8xqrk33iETKsDdrjUI76GFmsCwE=; b=adQ8rk2uii3BpxjlzVWx5kQbkO+fhjnJypyte9yyLY9VvC0ITMvur1ayWJTf3ta38E Cj2SSMn4An7vPr1H2eK2K4pCWJhiYE77t9w7wYeroS65JSKkVvk327ojzaNkVjgOxQgE C3rKXFBQtAw4BkrEv2OYIdtBPzbwrdfC4hm8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=CwNE56JgJ3tybIv6Ai4TrFVN70JAAQycoQsODVX4ATpwe9JWzSIUFLwESpJaHKMDAb z6bkCXuFVPpRYjixRolypf+8RVAQduZhis66fjvTqOLmGWfHripTALHFq922S+xlEV1p VC/QPB02ajFDHO9K5Wq1E6rDNAuyKyblFbAsw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.117.25 with SMTP id p25mr1369115wfc.301.1266018529784; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:48:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:48:49 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b91002121548i2038b3cn7c6ffcfa2ca00f06@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: fjoe@freebsd.org Subject: cvsnt (server) crashes on all operations after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:48:50 -0000 Hi all, Did a routine portupgrade the other day. Looks like cvsnt's server is now crashing on all operations (login, update, etc). I'm getting a blah blah pid xyx(cvsnt) coredumped in my /var/log/messages file. Due to the low traffic on the cvsnt list these days, I assume this is a FreeBSD issue, not a cvsnt issue - no one else seems to be down. Anyone have any ideas? I sent a bunch of client-side info to the cvsnt list, below, but the long & short of it is that cvsnt goes down hard right after inetd launches it. Can't find much server side info other than the coredump notification in /var/log/messages. I've got 8-release sources csup'd, I'm going to do an installworld in case something got out of sync. I'm grabbing at straws here, obviously. No cvsnt, I'm out of business until it's fixed. Maybe this will finally get me to move to subversion... Thanks, Steve On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > Upgraded cvsnt to 2.5.04 on my server, at which point it promptly > stopped working. I can't seem to google anything remotely close to > the behavior I'm seeing, and all the files in /usr/local/etc/cvsnt > look fine to me, so hopefully someone has insight... > > Thanks, > Steve > > Try pserver locally: > > [steve@aire ~/cvsnt_test]$ cvsnt -z9 -q -t -d:pserver:steve@localhost/fd login > 16:56:10: -> Tracelevel set to 1. PID is 65774 > 16:56:10: -> Session ID is 100ee4b74991aa0a9 > 16:56:10: -> Session time is Thu Feb 11 23:56:10 2010 > 16:56:10: -> main loop with CVSROOT=:pserver:steve@localhost/fd > Logging in to :pserver:steve@localhost:2401:/fd > CVS Password: > cvsnt [login aborted]: Error reading from server localhost: 0: File exists > > Try sserver remote: > > [steve@dystant /usr/home/steve/projects]$ cvsnt -z9 -q -t update -d > 16:57:55: -> Tracelevel set to 1. PID is 10889 > 16:57:55: -> Session ID is 2a894b7499838e28 > 16:57:55: -> Session time is Thu Feb 11 23:57:55 2010 > 16:57:55: -> main loop with > CVSROOT=:sserver:steve@franks-development.dyndns.biz/fd > Read data failed (5): Server dropped connection. > cvsnt [update aborted]: Error reading from server > franks-development.dyndns.biz: -1: Permission denied > [steve@dystant /usr/home/steve/projects]$ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 12 23:53:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A7A1065676 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFBF8FC1B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:53:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Vlc2lysBGdUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=VhpN4ANDhz0fpJ_iCqYA:9 a=NsUhH3ukAYu3Pb_-hRkA:7 a=aR9m30Im1zXdHMf2bhT5ksnpPW0A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=ZRFhQTycd0c-7dx3:21 a=6jLqNjUv4lbbZais:21 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:59547] helo=[10.0.0.3]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id C3/B7-02874-31AE57B4; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:53:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:53:54 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Fernan Aguero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0CA646C8F9505B3677DCFBA7@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <520894aa1002121239s2148ed6dudeae8055fe337d02@mail.gmail.com> References: <520894aa1002121239s2148ed6dudeae8055fe337d02@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: discrepancies in disk usage between df and du X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:53:56 -0000 You have a file locking problem. du shows disk in use, but df shows disk committed. Use lsof to identify the file that has disk space reserved but no longer exists. man (8) lsof --On February 12, 2010 5:39:44 PM -0300 Fernan Aguero wrote: > Hi, > > I have a box (7.2-STABLE, amd64) that is currently showing some disk > usage problems. It all started with apache generating huge logs from > one of the mod_perl applications that is undergoing testing. So the > /var partition was getting full. > > We removed all logs that were causing the problem, but even though du > shows some 700 Mb of usage, df shows that the disk is full (-1.5 Gb): > > [fernan@omega ~] sudo du -hc -d1 /var/ > Password: > 2.0K /var/.snap > 423M /var/account > 6.0K /var/at > 2.0K /var/audit > 18K /var/backups > 4.0K /var/crash > 6.0K /var/cron > 53M /var/db > 2.0K /var/empty > 2.0K /var/heimdal > 219M /var/log > 14M /var/mail > 4.0K /var/msgs > 48K /var/named > 2.0K /var/preserve > 44K /var/run > 2.0K /var/rwho > 16K /var/spool > 76K /var/tmp > 24K /var/yp > 2.0K /var/games > 710M /var/ > 710M total > > [fernan@omega ~] df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 18G 18G -1.5G 109% /var > > I've been googling around, and I understand why df and du might be > reporting disk usage differently. However, I can't solve this issue > and reclaim unused disk space ... applications (apache, mod_perl) are > prevented to write to /var and this is causing us problems. > > We've already tried rebooting the box, restarting the syslog, > newsyslog daemons, to no avail. df keeps showing >100% disk usage > (-1.5 Gb of remaining disk space) in all cases. We've even rebooted > the box with all apache instances turned off in rc.conf ... i.e. > without any but the most basic services running (sshd) ... > > This box is essentially a web server, no other services are being run. > > Any suggestions as to what to try next? > > Thanks in advance, Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 00:07:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9243A1065679 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp4.comclark.com (avmxsmtp4.comclark.com [202.69.191.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83C48FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11495 invoked by uid 89); 13 Feb 2010 00:07:19 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 11490, pid: 11491, t: 0.0867s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.93.3/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.173.143) by avmxsmtp4.comclark.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2010 00:07:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4B75ED33.9070401@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:07:15 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:07:22 -0000 Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Aiza wrote: > >> Your URL dont work >> > > Yes, it does :) But you need mercurial to get the source. > But the project also have a "homepage" - http://code.google.com/p/jailcfg/ > > Hay wake up. Nobody is going to install special software just to review some simple script. Get a life. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 00:48:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0B5106566B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 899348FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8227 invoked by uid 89); 13 Feb 2010 00:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 13 Feb 2010 00:51:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4B75F6D5.3070100@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:48:21 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> <4B75ED33.9070401@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4B75ED33.9070401@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:48:38 -0000 Aiza wrote: > Christer Solskogen wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Aiza wrote: >> >>> Your URL dont work >>> >> >> Yes, it does :) But you need mercurial to get the source. >> But the project also have a "homepage" - >> http://code.google.com/p/jailcfg/ >> >> > Hay wake up. Nobody is going to install special software > just to review some simple script. Get a life. You don't know that. You came back at the OP who has made an attempt at contributing with a one-line message: "Your URL dont work". Nice description. It worked for me, and I assure you that there are people who will install software in order to review a contribution if they had to. What is wrong with your PC if I could view it, and you couldn't? How do you know that it's a simple script if the "...URL dont work"? Ignore the flames Christer... I've been on this list for ~10 years, and flamers as such generally go elsewhere very quickly. Keep up the good work! Steve ps. I'm a Perl person, so although I did have a look at the code, I'd be more apt to use/modify it if it wasn't a shell script, as I'm always looking for new ways of managing jails ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 01:33:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3791A1065676 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kkiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45F48FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3230683ewy.13 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:33:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Ecs4eWm/ayNlH+cR+1b9E6OiAUit+UCkyVeuv0xd49Q=; b=X2RClWP1knXTjZkjlLUdE/ySF3d3e9OBwRmXi9y9/wJwmkG6owKnZ+AFnaIWzDKL4L nnWtPfz/g+gwSM69r2R6E8fU41yreq8HKpyF/lfzY7SK9jQmj1yZlkGQrqnTOAk+nKNZ syASbQeh/mAE8tI92+5fQvwAK+XDzko6vxZ+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iHD6uJ/oS2Cun8II8qMJqiZvBatGIIJhf1NZyZrSDGnCsMugN7al8zw/bQEarUbmy/ 412nZi+H3YrBUXpaYa9I20te4W23ZvM5bk8f3+PUwBK6OddwR/U/EIqkPo/+CAKZlnCy 4iX/Lg6RrTUrXd66Y/7vbWxtN7RRl8YoEWiaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.164.11 with SMTP id b11mr446412wel.169.1266024787770; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:33:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:33:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jurif To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The MAC portacl Module X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:33:09 -0000 Hi! I'd like to set security.mac.portacl.rules but my kernel doesn't include it --$ sysctl security.mac.portacl.rules sysctl: unknown oid 'security.mac.portacl.rules' What options i need to add to kernel config file before i recompile kernel to add support for this mac portacle ? Regards, Jurif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 03:08:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6651065670 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8012B8FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100213030855.ZLZX18765.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:08:55 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.79.23]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id hF8v1d0040WARwL02F8vyE; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:08:55 -0500 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=eB45exa5s5AhTaO7pHhA6OPbhzilKlxGV7deooRAVXM= c=1 sm=1 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:17 a=8neffBu6Z-Vu73nf1s4A:9 a=AdRkvY-9u4A1SwRqUkKxhqXFG4EA:4 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4B7617C7.7010508@cox.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:55 -0600 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100212-2, 02/12/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:08:57 -0000 I am trying to find how to install a custom kernel at installation. I have found an option in sysinstall to select a kernel. How do I add my own to the options so I can select it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 03:28:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD35A1065672 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernan.aguero@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339E8FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so3413547pzk.3 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:28:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CkM0SzufGG7uNB2+EXeBkVORoIgw1XcNIajN3p+sLA8=; b=ZYoImjQNHfIW5F2uZO3sgsUlP9tvBngZeWg9ByTJlNwMX7OX2ppb0blSSlWIMfRxPc fw1JPs7vckAbjAE9skEofaiOfVKk/fWLfm2mOlkYSUvRksMFsnliJWh/WpPEHcfqnpyL pxkw+hpiNW8bwAHvYoUIlBhmrgjpBuliDH+pU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vcJAG2bteWTpJHHPtgmQXrwaTtYZnKEI5UtnkrTrgVitDS6GQPGL5FZArWyxeZEAcc w3CWvnot8jnIWtLEPHkjdNU3jgnedcWee17hephtUmifNKfFcIJVW8AXifWWtIcW6lo0 7XD4wMKCcU1od/1B3XwrjAYrpEJiyRv2U+lxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.154.11 with SMTP id g11mr1507910wfo.271.1266031730082; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:28:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0CA646C8F9505B3677DCFBA7@Macintosh-2.local> References: <520894aa1002121239s2148ed6dudeae8055fe337d02@mail.gmail.com> <0CA646C8F9505B3677DCFBA7@Macintosh-2.local> From: Fernan Aguero Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:28:30 -0300 Message-ID: <520894aa1002121928t6c470a59tf15a320b9ab9b6db@mail.gmail.com> To: Paul Schmehl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: discrepancies in disk usage between df and du X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:28:50 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Paul Schmehl wr= ote: > You have a file locking problem. =A0du shows disk in use, but df shows di= sk > committed. =A0Use lsof to identify the file that has disk space reserved = but > no longer exists. =A0man (8) lsof Thanks Paul for the suggestion. I've tried both lsof and fstat, and can't really see anything wrong in the output ... 1. Can't install lsof from ports, apparently =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for lsof-4.83C,4 /var: write failed, filesystem is full cp: /var/db/pkg/lsof-4.83C,4/+MTREE_DIRS: No space left on device *** Error code 1 I say 'apparently' because in spite of the error message, /var/db/pkg gets written anyway: omega# ls -l /var/db/pkg/lsof-4.83C,4/ total 6 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 57 Feb 13 01:22 +COMMENT -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1435 Feb 13 01:22 +CONTENTS -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 386 Feb 13 01:22 +DESC -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 13 01:22 +MTREE_DIRS And lsof is installed at /usr/local/sbin/lsof, as expected. 2. Let's see what lsof shows: omega# lsof +D /var/ COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME devd 464 root 4u unix 0xffffff0005d03b40 0t0 /var/run/devd.pipe devd 464 root 5w VREG 0,94 3 47122 /var/run/devd.pid sendmail 804 root cwd VDIR 0,94 512 1295363 /var/spool/mqueue sendmail 804 root 5w VREG 0,94 78 47115 /var/run/sendmail.pid sendmail 808 smmsp cwd VDIR 0,94 512 1295366 /var/spool/clientmqueue sendmail 808 smmsp 4w VREG 0,94 0 1295368 /var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid cron 814 root cwd VDIR 0,94 512 23552 /var/c= ron cron 814 root 3w VREG 0,94 3 47117 /var/run/cron.pid csh 6741 paula cwd VDIR 0,94 4096 117760 /var/l= og syslogd 70526 root 3w VREG 0,94 5 47111 /var/run/syslog.pid syslogd 70526 root 4u unix 0xffffff0024a00b40 0t0 /var/run/log syslogd 70526 root 5u unix 0xffffff0013ee9870 0t0 /var/run/logpriv syslogd 70526 root 11w VREG 0,94 51176 117901 /var/log/messages syslogd 70526 root 12w VREG 0,94 60 117771 /var/log/security syslogd 70526 root 13w VREG 0,94 86008 117780 /var/log/auth.log syslogd 70526 root 14w VREG 0,94 2036 117877 /var/log/maillog syslogd 70526 root 15w VREG 0,94 60 117767 /var/log/lpd-errs syslogd 70526 root 16w VREG 0,94 60 117773 /var/log/xferlog syslogd 70526 root 17w VREG 0,94 34783 117859 /var/log/cron syslogd 70526 root 18w VREG 0,94 93 117766 /var/log/debug.log syslogd 70526 root 19w VREG 0,94 60 117772 /var/log/slip.log syslogd 70526 root 20w VREG 0,94 60 117770 /var/log/ppp.log 3. fstat comes built-in, omega# fstat -f /var/ USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W root syslogd 70526 3 /var 47111 -rw------- 5 w root syslogd 70526 11 /var 117901 -rw-r--r-- 51176 w root syslogd 70526 12 /var 117771 -rw------- 60 w root syslogd 70526 13 /var 117780 -rw------- 86008 w root syslogd 70526 14 /var 117877 -rw-r----- 2036 w root syslogd 70526 15 /var 117767 -rw-r--r-- 60 w root syslogd 70526 16 /var 117773 -rw------- 60 w root syslogd 70526 17 /var 117859 -rw------- 34783 w root syslogd 70526 18 /var 117766 -rw------- 93 w root syslogd 70526 19 /var 117772 -rw-r----- 60 w root syslogd 70526 20 /var 117770 -rw-r----- 60 w paula csh 6741 wd /var 117760 drwxr-xr-x 4096 r root cron 814 wd /var 23552 drwxr-x--- 512 r root cron 814 3 /var 47117 -rw------- 3 w smmsp sendmail 808 wd /var 1295366 drwxrwx--- 512 r smmsp sendmail 808 4 /var 1295368 -rw------- 0 w root sendmail 804 wd /var 1295363 drwxr-xr-x 512 r root sendmail 804 5 /var 47115 -rw------- 78 w root devd 464 5 /var 47122 -rw------- 3 w I can see nothing here ... 4. But still, disk is full ... or is it? omega# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 18G 18G -1.5G 109% /var Thanks for any further advice, -- fernan > --On February 12, 2010 5:39:44 PM -0300 Fernan Aguero > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a box (7.2-STABLE, amd64) that is currently showing some disk >> usage problems. It all started with apache generating huge logs from >> one of the mod_perl applications that is undergoing testing. So the >> /var partition was getting full. >> >> We removed all logs that were causing the problem, but even though du >> shows some 700 Mb of usage, df shows that the disk is full (-1.5 Gb): >> >> [fernan@omega ~] sudo du -hc -d1 /var/ >> Password: >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/.snap >> 423M =A0 =A0/var/account >> 6.0K =A0 =A0/var/at >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/audit >> =A018K =A0 =A0/var/backups >> 4.0K =A0 =A0/var/crash >> 6.0K =A0 =A0/var/cron >> =A053M =A0 =A0/var/db >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/empty >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/heimdal >> 219M =A0 =A0/var/log >> =A014M =A0 =A0/var/mail >> 4.0K =A0 =A0/var/msgs >> =A048K =A0 =A0/var/named >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/preserve >> =A044K =A0 =A0/var/run >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/rwho >> =A016K =A0 =A0/var/spool >> =A076K =A0 =A0/var/tmp >> =A024K =A0 =A0/var/yp >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var/games >> 710M =A0 =A0/var/ >> 710M =A0 =A0total >> >> [fernan@omega ~] df -h >> Filesystem =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Size =A0 =A0Used =A0 Avail Cap= acity =A0Mounted on >> /dev/mirror/gm0s1f =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 18G =A0 =A0 18G =A0 -1.5G =A0 109% = =A0 =A0/var >> >> I've been googling around, and I understand why df and du might be >> reporting disk usage differently. However, I can't solve this issue >> and reclaim unused disk space ... applications (apache, mod_perl) are >> prevented to write to /var and this is causing us problems. >> >> We've already tried rebooting the box, restarting the syslog, >> newsyslog daemons, to no avail. df keeps showing >100% disk usage >> (-1.5 Gb of remaining disk space) in all cases. We've even rebooted >> the box with all apache instances turned off in rc.conf ... i.e. >> without any but the most basic services running (sshd) ... >> >> This box is essentially a web server, no other services are being run. >> >> Any suggestions as to what to try next? >> >> Thanks in advance, > > > > Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already > obvious, my opinions are my own > and not those of my employer. > ****************************************** > WARNING: Check the headers before replying > > --=20 fernan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 05:08:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0C106566B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241408FC21 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E509594A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cetus.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [192.168.101.5]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588C895926 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by cetus.dawnsign.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <1W7SWYP8>; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: From: Doug Sampson To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: setting default directory ACLs using xargs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:08:51 -0000 I need to do this at the command prompt for all directories: root@aries:/data/Products# getfacl -d . # file: . # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production root@aries:/data/Products# getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - . root@aries:/data/Products# getfacl -d . # file: . # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x root@aries:/data/Products# okay, it works. Now, I have thousands of subdirectories that I want to apply this to. When I attempt to use the xarg command with the above command modified to work with xargs, I end up with an error message: root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl | setfacl -d -b -n -M - setfacl: line too long in - root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# Okay, that doesn't work. What is the output of... root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl # file: . # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x # file: ./.AppleDouble # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x # file: ./Design # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x # file: ./Design/Dev Heads # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x # file: ./Design/Dev Heads/Backup # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x [ ..snip..] # file: ./Design/need cleanup/head/OLD # owner: DSP-alfredo # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x # file: ./Manuscripts # owner: DSP-matte # group: DSP-production user::rwx user:DSP-doug:rwx user:DSP-alfredo:rwx group::rwx group:DSP-production:rwx mask::rwx other::r-x root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# Seems there are approximately 10 lines of output for each 'getfacl' command. How do I feed each group of ten lines into the next command of 'setfacl'? The manpages of xargs are a bit cryptic for me. NOTE: There appears to be a known bug with the 'setfacl' utility when attempting to set default ACLs on directories. See http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-May/001053.html for more details. This is what led me to the workaround of: $ getfacl /aclTest/ | setfacl -d -b -n -M - /aclTest/ which actually works for me. I do dread the idea of having to manually apply this to all existing directories in the /data filesystem. Thousands of them. Trying again: root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - setfacl: line too long in - root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - . setfacl: line too long in - root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl . | xargs -0 setfacl -d -b -n -M - . setfacl: illegal filename: Inappropriate ioctl for device root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - . setfacl: line too long in - root@aries:/data/Products/RSVP# Any ideas? ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 09:18:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF79106566B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02EC8FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1D9IGdO021165; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:18:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:18:16 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Byung-Hee HWANG Message-ID: <20100213091815.GA6452@thought.org> References: <20100212181035.GA3948@thought.org> <20100212182031.GA4021@thought.org> <86y6iyi6r5.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86y6iyi6r5.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NOW what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:18:21 -0000 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 04:38:54AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > [... long line snip ...] > > I just tried again and now Konq did send me to the hyperlink... > > Was i hallucinating? dunno.... > > Hi Gary, how about GNOME's epiphany? Recently i settled down at > epiphany for web work. That looks good to me. > I like epiphany more and more; the thing it lacks, and the Only reason I use Konq is that it lets me use the festival text-to-speech apps. If *anybody* knows of any other browser that can be set to have festival stuff work, please, Pulsseeze let me know:) gary > Sincerely, > > -- > "We'll meet him later." > -- Michael Corleone, "Chapter 1", page 42 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 09:31:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B49810657A5 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B248FC13 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o1D9V3tK032629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:31:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o1D9V373032628; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15204; Sat, 13 Feb 10 01:27:27 PST Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:24:37 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: dougs@dawnsign.com Message-Id: <4b766fd5.VK3xWZMZCcYJJTF5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting default directory ACLs using xargs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:31:47 -0000 Doug Sampson wrote: > I need to do this at the command prompt for all directories: ... > root@aries:/data/Products# getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - . > Now, I have thousands of subdirectories that I want to apply this > to. When I attempt to use the xarg command with the above command > modified to work with xargs, I end up with an error message ... Two possibilities come to mind: * Try using the "-L 1" switch to cause xargs to run a separate command instance for each input value. * You may have run into one of the rare situations where "find ... | xargs" is not the best tool for the job. It may work better to set up a 3-line shell script along the lines of #!/bin/sh cd $1 getfacl . | setfacl -d -b -n -M - . and then use "find -type d -exec" to run it for each directory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 10:14:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CC0106568D for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FC48FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NgF1K-0002cV-Ne for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:14:38 -0800 Message-ID: <27573158.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:14:38 -0800 (PST) From: jaymax To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jaymax36@gmail.com Subject: resetting shmmax parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:14:39 -0000 Hello, FreeBSD O/S 7.2 i386 1CPU AMD Server memory RAM memory hw.physmem: 1060540416 # sysctl -a | grep shm kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed: 0 kern.ipc.shm_use_phys: 0 kern.ipc.shmall: 8192 kern.ipc.shmseg: 128 kern.ipc.shmmni: 192 kern.ipc.shmmin: 1 kern.ipc.shmmax: 33554432 >From dmesg # grep memory /var/run/dmesg.boot real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1036972032 (988 MB) # swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/ad0s1b 1536000 32 1535968 0% /dev/ad1s1b 1048576 28 1048548 0% /dev/ad4s1b 2072576 44 2072532 0% Total 4657152 104 4657048 0% program suggested parameters for shared memory To reset the parameters: vi /etc/sysconfigtab in order to add the lines ipc: shm-max=2147483647 sem-mni=128 What is a safe / comfortable shmmax to use? Can I increase shmmax on the fly as in Linux or do I have to do reboot? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/resetting-shmmax-parameters-tp27573158p27573158.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 10:26:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE791065692 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4E88FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3438412ewy.13 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/DC9pXJmEpRUQefTL7XM5z2bHsEJ/Xvs5O/vKP5EEco=; b=ljGoyOX4WPZDrROEoZjcHjXvI3pMQzRT5586PC+K+clzqC2FlUFhCkjrOs+rqlh8sT tEUyTxKvx26dbomrYmKVJaaOkx9ANCrmuN43iTgVH5NVyd7AgSobMSPtv0k4PIZ9ZXcf NSV4LxYOW3OtCg2BQCL3VHsmpqcUvzSEPQUys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ebd0v5pEc0SynAlEMllpNistWDWLSMflcpitsJoP+dhuYWH0tFYqFw5mNZ65lZd69g +N7NaiZD5Fm2Icp/DHfYHknb7cAV1dfRuFk4oWhwkJQPO7O7Mh1ivKFSPbN+e2dZjjxN ffwY20TtGgfdfeiH7S2YYnCnVYCHq3u4fBWhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.100.231 with SMTP id z39mr1193518ebn.39.1266056815138; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:26:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B75ED33.9070401@comclark.com> References: <4B74B167.4040103@comclark.com> <4B75ED33.9070401@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:26:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: Christer Solskogen To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailcfg - A new tool for creating small(!) jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:26:56 -0000 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Aiza wrote: > Hay wake up. Nobody is going to install special software > =A0just to review some simple script. Get a life. > Maybe. I was hoping that google code had some nice way of creating a tarball of the source on the fly. I'll mail google about it, it would be a nice feature. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 11:31:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DF8106566B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F46D8FC19 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6122E1C0847 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:31:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B768D94.7080104@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:31:32 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B7617C7.7010508@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4B7617C7.7010508@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:31:36 -0000 On 13/02/10 04:08, Derek Funk wrote: > I am trying to find how to install a custom kernel at installation. I > have found an option in sysinstall to select a kernel. How do I add my > own to the options so I can select it? I think the standard procedure is to install the generic kernel at installation then install your custom kernel afterwards. You should always keep the generic kernel to fall back on in case of any problems. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 14:36:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C54106566B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F578FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1DEa1wd070630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1DEa1cu031569 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:01 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: SpamAssassin 3.3.0/sa-update problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:36:08 -0000 Hi, Since the update of SpamAssassin to 3.3.0, spamd doesn't start anymore and exits with an error: child process [xxxxx] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It seems that after the upgrade, sa-update has to be run first. But in my case this results in an error also: sa-update -D Feb 13 15:32:07.485 [31554] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all Feb 13 15:32:07.486 [31554] dbg: logger: logging level is DBG Feb 13 15:32:07.486 [31554] dbg: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.3.0 Feb 13 15:32:07.486 [31554] dbg: generic: Perl 5.010001, PREFIX=/usr/local, DEF_RULES_DIR=/usr/local/share/spamassassin, LOCAL_RULES_DIR=/usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin, LOCAL_STATE_DIR=/var/db/spamassassin Feb 13 15:32:07.486 [31554] dbg: config: timing enabled Feb 13 15:32:07.487 [31554] dbg: config: score set 0 chosen. Feb 13 15:32:07.534 [31554] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes Feb 13 15:32:07.534 [31554] dbg: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.66 Feb 13 15:32:07.535 [31554] dbg: generic: sa-update version svn897929 Feb 13 15:32:07.535 [31554] dbg: generic: using update directory: /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: perl platform: 5.010001 freebsd Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.12 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: HTML::Parser, version 3.64 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::DNS, version 0.66 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: NetAddr::IP, version 4.027 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Time::HiRes, version 1.9719 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Archive::Tar, version 1.56 Feb 13 15:32:07.839 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Zlib, version 1.10 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.12 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: MIME::Base64, version 3.09 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: DB_File, version 1.82 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::SMTP, version 2.31 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Mail::SPF, version v2.007 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IP::Country::Fast, version 604.001 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.84 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::Ident, version 1.20 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Socket::INET6, version 2.56 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Socket::SSL, version 1.31 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Compress::Zlib, version 2.015 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Mail::DKIM, version 0.37 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: DBI, version 1.609 Feb 13 15:32:07.840 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Getopt::Long, version 2.38 Feb 13 15:32:07.841 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: LWP::UserAgent, version 5.834 Feb 13 15:32:07.841 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: HTTP::Date, version 5.831 Feb 13 15:32:07.841 [31554] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Encode::Detect, version 1.01 Feb 13 15:32:07.842 [31554] dbg: gpg: Searching for 'gpg' Feb 13 15:32:07.842 [31554] dbg: util: current PATH is: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin Feb 13 15:32:07.842 [31554] dbg: util: executable for gpg was found at /usr/local/bin/gpg Feb 13 15:32:07.842 [31554] dbg: gpg: found /usr/local/bin/gpg Feb 13 15:32:07.843 [31554] dbg: gpg: release trusted key id list: 5E541DC959CB8BAC7C78DFDC4056A61A5244EC45 26C900A46DD40CD5AD24F6D7DEE01987265FA05B 0C2B1D7175B852C64B3CDC716C55397824F434CE Feb 13 15:32:07.848 [31554] dbg: channel: attempting channel updates.spamassassin.org Feb 13 15:32:07.848 [31554] dbg: channel: update directory /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org Feb 13 15:32:07.848 [31554] dbg: channel: channel cf file /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org.cf Feb 13 15:32:07.848 [31554] dbg: channel: channel pre file /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org.pre Feb 13 15:32:07.852 [31554] dbg: dns: query failed: 0.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org => NOERROR Feb 13 15:32:07.855 [31554] dbg: dns: query failed: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org => NOERROR channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed Feb 13 15:32:07.855 [31554] dbg: diag: updates complete, exiting with code 4 I've tried to reinstall SpamAssassin by portupgrade -Rrf p5-Mail-SpamAssassin, but this doesn't make any difference. Hope that anyone has an idea how to solve this. Regards, Marco -- Use an accordion. Go to jail. -- KFOG, San Francisco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 17:49:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB0D106568B for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D578FC1E for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so4005921pzk.3 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vmO/JxFNopoe0JOU1e6bZvbmZY4m1v26qgJ7okd6Kg0=; b=sm+Y7HzfMdmYQW5kc3tMYpZnueV4+Z0FlxKFRvWVEZAoTeff3BPU45hUdrzbVZqUSy p1Hg+B2k7/10NE3GJFsWOQISbeBXd5i3AAccGk78iDggqETau+lZmnnVnjRj1t9Y6mBV q5ZcdiOn4BTJA0CE/LhoF14CgTdtgiIIQb9kw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OgDNZM7H1vaqQYMjNX8OoGuXMuFHh+qsAnD1wxa6VplT1rxLxsOzCs8hjIrlJF+wk7 2lIfJC5sX+1vmiWTgmHqKMPFR4DW3rnXhTZPe95w85nSo2Q2w/enY0rZk6eO3iQtt1I2 SD9usnOVYzzHMiA19pidCZFOmn9iKof+WnD3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.118.5 with SMTP id q5mr1974744wfc.320.1266083373950; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:49:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:49:33 -0500 Message-ID: <54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c531@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Jason Lin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:49:35 -0000 On 2/12/10, Jason Lin wrote: > I try this method, after set the password of "toor", > I can't login with the account "toor". It is possible (I don't remember) that the "toor" account does not have a shell in the default passwd file. If that's the problem, use vipw to add the path to a shell as the last field on the line. The "root" account should provide a good example, or look at the line for your own user account. "/bin/csh" should work for recent versions of FreeBSD. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 18:10:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0750B10656C5 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAB48FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1DIASQQ033863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk o1DIASQQ033863 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=black-earth.co.uk; s=201001-black-earth; t=1266084628; bh=qR1Q1zltGFOvIo6vbzzQyAqDbYfb6r3Cq+MCXLuHhlg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B76EB13.3060900@black-earth.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 013=20Feb=202010=2018:10:27=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macintosh=3 B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-GB=3B=20rv:1.9.1.7) =20Gecko/20100111=20Thunderbird/3.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Bo b=20Johnson=20|CC:=20Jason=20Lin=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20H ELP!=20Is=20that=20possible=20"creating=20a=20user=20named=20root= 20but=20=09acturallynot=0D=0A=20the=20administrator=20root"|Refere nces:=20<387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim .net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry>=09=09=20<54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c531@mail.gm ail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c53 1@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20multip art/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicati on/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigAD32E702D D4C7B1F58187642"; b=j45nPrwmEU4JEiMbQelOUn5DfkdL5ns/HLr7/KmOeMSReJIoEoMWeua3e99/XG4On UnmGgV7/fyovOfhD6i+KB4HKtDXx6fTGjjYGhdGZeQvmYE0cNFzHpyFTGkdwS6nKyf uVXhLsPshqUoNexrw28AdMaxvh1zXnbZnx9CiI4w= Message-ID: <4B76EB13.3060900@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:27 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c531@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c531@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAD32E702DD4C7B1F58187642" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, SPF_FAIL, URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jason Lin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAD32E702DD4C7B1F58187642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/02/2010 17:49, Bob Johnson wrote: > It is possible (I don't remember) that the "toor" account does not > have a shell in the default passwd file. If that's the problem, use > vipw to add the path to a shell as the last field on the line. The > "root" account should provide a good example, or look at the line for > your own user account. "/bin/csh" should work for recent versions of > FreeBSD. An empty field for the user shell in /etc/{master.,}passwd means the account gets the default shell, which in the case of FreeBSD is /bin/sh. Shouldn't cause the observed problem. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enigAD32E702DD4C7B1F58187642 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt26xQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzGAQCfRELHILq9NSAL/COsex2Rq9MG WBMAn3xZ4+3ObciUIgTqzaUk0msghSiH =FR3V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAD32E702DD4C7B1F58187642-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 20:04:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D6A106568F; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954048FC0A; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so201701qwh.7 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:04:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WsJM2XfT97V0dGFyC597g24F94X/Dyuish0k6wDG8ps=; b=W61QWICxTJUM31deQLmH/hVeQR27vXJo+6cBALS24Y3wp6zqY87dVKeq63GShJ1inl +nbSsqQDK45sjNL4TPRce5zSv8p1kvV6AQ4N7axjbPdc4l/fmWPXyKUtk70pabG9vrnd l8gSoY51QubJ2g01VZEM9TgXu+vLnQV8WrLqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JXxyGO38fTB1b/m8Gy47s+7VxYonlFuhgEu6P5lS/xOAZPrWUuA1wqiDufqJR4x7/V 1ihbrTBE0S5GRZsyx7VsYxIpIttsAB04QvT6YlCYp8q/1iI+38wbO3uWFbLQwlXXSr/L 39B8WYhEfCP/hDF3dxfPWFNY9/CngU6BCI4rM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.95.154 with SMTP id d26mr1496260qan.108.1266091471753; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:04:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:04:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: booting off a ZFS pool consisting of multiple striped mirror vdevs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:04:33 -0000 Hello I have succesfully tested and used a "full ZFS install" of FreeBSD 8.0 on both single disk and mirror disk configurations using both MBR and GPT partitioning. AFAIK, with the more recent -CURRENT and -STABLE it is also possible to boot off a root filesystem located on raidz/raidz2 pools. But what about booting off pools consisting of multiple striped mirror or raidz vdevs? Like this: Assume each disk looks like a half of a traditional ZFS mirror root configuration using GPT 1: freebsd-boot 2: freebsd-swap 3: freebsd-zfs |disk1+disk2| + |disk3+disk4| + |disk5+disk6| My logic tells me that while booting off any of the 6 disks, boot0 and boot1 stage should obviously work fine, but what about the boot2 stage? Can it properly handle booting off a root filesystem thats striped across 3 mirror vdevs or is booting off a single mirror vdev the best that one can do right now? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 20:07:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D0010656B3 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com (mail-bw0-f221.google.com [209.85.218.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BB28FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2939222bwz.4 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:07:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hCmmz1g0UzKyfKa8XIEiWWM/WVLA3PLR/LXJL/XIfWo=; b=lfFnZ0eMhrERRG2EkvVht+6wxtxfmFSCqqC/x3L99dvILfkOTKltHxwDNUrmwJNRcw ltU7bYhGUOe2N0a/8fzGkvGo25ZuFf9SBYl2e/9GC+/cLerVUrl7vUSiSNSuO5R0WRF0 sXfNhSnybytoaCUmXap6hhLPKaGlY/dMmHt00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=efRjsYbnMegrujRhK053kDXVIfs++LCvxtXHWKfgyguK6iqJntJluqV252wXoLk3oi N3y2cFomHaTy5V4LP2nSXlW3i7SLoRJMk+jqsPwbI3F04/1dZOWHInpc6YexTj5nMBrO Wxq+uwfHeFgrT9TDBRrFMDAkUfftp0w3wdbjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.38.77 with SMTP id a13mr1976254bke.26.1266091634385; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:07:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B76EB13.3060900@black-earth.co.uk> References: <387428344-1265866387-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-794243854-@bda049.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <54db43991002130949l1cdddf5ey5565547637c531@mail.gmail.com> <4B76EB13.3060900@black-earth.co.uk> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:06:54 +0000 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Bob Johnson , Jason Lin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:07:16 -0000 On 13 February 2010 18:10, Matthew Seaman wrot= e: > On 13/02/2010 17:49, Bob Johnson wrote: > >> It is possible (I don't remember) that the "toor" account does not >> have a shell in the default passwd file. If that's the problem, use >> vipw to add the path to a shell as the last field on the line. =A0The >> "root" account should provide a good example, or look at the line for >> your own user account. "/bin/csh" should work for recent versions of >> FreeBSD. > > An empty field for the user shell in /etc/{master.,}passwd means the > account gets the default shell, which in the case of FreeBSD is /bin/sh. > =A0Shouldn't cause the observed problem. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > I would imagine then that /etc/ttys is set to 'insecure' for all. Can you log in as root Jason? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 20:41:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB2A1065672 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249778FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1DKfUAR001512; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:41:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1DKfT1b001511; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:41:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:41:29 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: John Message-ID: <20100213204129.GA1016@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , John , Julien Gormotte , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0B47F5A9-A603-408F-A727-E81739E539C5@andersonbrothers.biz> <201002091059.27019.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <201002120124.o1C1OS3o015060@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B751F70.8060402@gmail.com> <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100212080524.B67483@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:41:33 +0100 (CET) Cc: Julien Gormotte , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PASSWORD LOST!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:41:35 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:05:24AM -0600, John typed: > > > > > If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server > > hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can > > boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you > > can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. > > People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to > break into FreeBSD servers around the world... That formula is allready there (but fixed in more recent source off course) http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Nov/371 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 22:27:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA39106566C for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3464B8FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so13173fga.13 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:27:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=dso+ivADeQuF0akJVVPUkm7LrEtoRDlMek3L+XfCPWs=; b=uSBwvBT03n7e3n/rQkh3n8xqWRl0Ht3i1ZKE01PQsxZ9u9QqLonhk8oQsS3XIbkwVy G4AiEC4na23uljssZ/upAVuBTeBz0CzT/n8H4plnJVrXCk2NtZjQcMI60oROnQjSpTH2 J1pLA8DXiJkOdxKrFTNjMFUKZEKLczdzFd8X8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=iC3oR4sA6azW6MZHQZMpmorSS68J905oC/Fl+bkkWRjuZLKYuODUoCJOHm2XQ/TQP8 lW8Hq34Pmk+z8T57diEM7NZBTBX94UGsYyZMc20+SC3aYWHEvruQxxHou5sitzwkbYbW +QFuJMfJbLGMZ8kf8ilBHamDqaTqcyISNlJNg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.192.78 with SMTP id d14mr371935hbi.141.1266100038879; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:27:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e751002120312s3cb778a0l1d856b7376a280fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e751002120312s3cb778a0l1d856b7376a280fa@mail.gmail.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:26:57 +0200 Message-ID: To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:27:20 -0000 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 2/11/10, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? >> a) no idea >> b) Sorry for leaving that out: 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 >> c) Boot the computer and watch tty0 > > Does it happens also if you load module (bcmwl5_sys.ko) after boot via > kldload instead via /boot/loader.conf > Is this what you mean? Id Refs Address Size Name 8 1 0xc101c000 1ddb8 if_bwi.ko 9 1 0xc103a000 180ae4 if_bwi_ndis.ko If you meant loading these via kldload instead of at boot time then No, But when I put it back in I also no longer see the warning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 22:31:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A391065679 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5789E8FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3872865ewy.13 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:31:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=g01cDvm3pwf1vSkbmEIoKxHPhoAEO7tAFKBr5rUndd0=; b=r/MwU/wLy9h6kIgErXBtkk2t+15VifQ9uP+pbWEwwE7aysoYE1ci/dPj8XKnzjp68a 5Mr3Jzlr2RJxTUzhABYrsjlacSNYYyykTPnbVeIgeozVtfClGrMaETCHMy24htVihwSs v9AkP19sPBA7FGY8IB0RBjPd/XYo9jaIaH1lc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TeFWUo+B0USY6wzkWgGHKc4FKDDiR/4HNLDiq4zyd4u6Ny60aNJPREYtyZRa3X/y+g c8Agg5rYRJWB8wqllTThQjGwz5MN7aUX2dY57MGoZ6WA+rHGNQrlGkDRTGLdaSeqYlSX gt2waL0HGbOx+H92r6mwwAcaTyo/p5GZhTrgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.2.75 with SMTP id 11mr2316445ebi.14.1266100269478; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:31:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e751002120312s3cb778a0l1d856b7376a280fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:31:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002131431i488c1fb1rc67545411091c5c5@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:31:11 -0000 On 2/13/10, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 2/11/10, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>> What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? >>> a) no idea >>> b) Sorry for leaving that out: 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 >>> c) Boot the computer and watch tty0 >> >> Does it happens also if you load module (bcmwl5_sys.ko) after boot via >> kldload instead via /boot/loader.conf >> > Is this what you mean? > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 8 1 0xc101c000 1ddb8 if_bwi.ko > 9 1 0xc103a000 180ae4 if_bwi_ndis.ko if_bwi is unrelated to NDIS. I'm asking about module you created with ndisgen. > > If you meant loading these via kldload instead of at boot time then > No, > But when I put it back in I also no longer see the warning. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 22:40:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9440D1065670 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C54A8FC14 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o1DMetms014605 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:40:55 -0500 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id o1DMetPL014604; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:40:55 -0500 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 4F268BF16; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:39:31 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug Sampson on Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:43 -0800) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: Message-Id: <20100213223932.4F268BF16@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: setting default directory ACLs using xargs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:40:57 -0000 >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:43 -0800, >> Doug Sampson said: D> This is what led me to the workaround of: D> $ getfacl /aclTest/ | setfacl -d -b -n -M - /aclTest/ D> which actually works for me. I do dread the idea of having to manually D> apply this to all existing directories in the /data filesystem. If all else fails, abuse nawk: #!/bin/sh cd /data find . -type d -print | nawk '{printf "getfacl %s | setfacl -d -b -n -M - %s\n",$1,$1}' | sh -x exit 0 If you have spaces in your filenames, you'll either have to use perl or do something dopey like this: #!/bin/sh cd /data find . -type d -print | nawk -v sq=\' '{ printf "getfacl %s%s%s | setfacl -d -b -n -M - %s%s%s\n", sq, $0, sq, sq, $0, sq}' | sh -x exit 0 -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Yeah, yo mama dresses you funny and you need a mouse to delete files. --Markus Stumpf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 13 22:47:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CFE1065670 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AE58FC16 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so1928657fxm.32 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:47:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BZY+PAsbCaCZ9uWd7mHAE6/0O2niSUfWBG7l0AZFEsY=; b=xDstzag43dPue4mXRAjcBbHPI4eleZAr69eB3u7yoeWtHWNDyCkkiZiw75upHVlsuz kGHOEzucz71MxLCPl3KPD7ersFSy28bEZi2N4/jKlh0HvAj7zV5AubEdlzcOmclA8wsV dgofvGbG8I4Sz404Uybo0S26xyZC9SHzTejjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gVCTsqyWmeTMHADI4ilxiksO+fh+G/9GFtBvzRCGVkeTzjv73qkL068s1xE1mM5B+a V8x21uE6WGdmAPqM5qY/aXgOh3g2+AcCPmkdIF9I2VgjR/7c8VS1aT3wV1ytPaJdo7k4 NCsu7u5YCoKxmeKm2t0zJCHMgLpH4aSYexBvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.192.78 with SMTP id d14mr373727hbi.141.1266101226098; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:47:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e751002131431i488c1fb1rc67545411091c5c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e751002111052p3ef55575q8baca1af8ab27a17@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e751002120312s3cb778a0l1d856b7376a280fa@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e751002131431i488c1fb1rc67545411091c5c5@mail.gmail.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:46:46 +0200 Message-ID: To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:47:07 -0000 On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 2/13/10, Eitan Adler wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>> On 2/11/10, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>>> What miniport driver, what arch, how to reproduce it? >>>> a) no idea >>>> b) Sorry for leaving that out: 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 >>>> c) Boot the computer and watch tty0 >>> >>> Does it happens also if you load module (bcmwl5_sys.ko) after boot via >>> kldload instead via /boot/loader.conf >>> >> Is this what you mean? >> >> Id Refs Address =A0 =A0Size =A0 =A0 Name >> =A08 =A0 =A01 0xc101c000 1ddb8 =A0 =A0if_bwi.ko >> =A09 =A0 =A01 0xc103a000 180ae4 =A0 if_bwi_ndis.ko > > if_bwi is unrelated to NDIS. > > I'm asking about module you created with ndisgen. > >> >> If you meant loading these via kldload instead of at boot time then >> No, >> But when I put it back in I also no longer see the warning. >> > I didn't recognize what you meant with "bcmwl5_sys.ko". Either way the answer applies: I no longer see the warning regardless of whether it is in /boot/loader.conf or not. Perhaps it was an intermittent problem? If so what could it mean?