From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 00:33:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC54106566C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAFE8FC17 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so4678350qwg.13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z4ZeAKsoNKj2oMVOTUG/ReiffLBRm+OjLt6B5aFqem0=; b=XMtO7J13qTGSqeuxRULVyATA50lwrYj0Qf5QRxdO+7qQ9Gc2cugF/X1PaMGJfY6JRq t73FUoVWvtNYo2/BfMuT1BhnRXSrbPlzc53aODeYDveZeha3jY/7mzywUNKEFYc7090C rbxj2LGumPgf2IyTNIGAuWo16xf9lHTON3OPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aT+Deiv0u+XppcfO4gb5QIoCqF9cACMJ4rduugm1nVSEU+9clbWeWA619XeVQwJnFt F6qbELoqaIT5Y8Bm37CUZ11dW6kj/L1UuuPoaoFVg3GFKK2Oa4nwu04hPFyk4sZvN0S9 Y2e1+By6RSq8tr+swGfn+MMU5fLjrH3PsqwdM= Received: by 10.229.220.20 with SMTP id hw20mr2383628qcb.94.1282437180832; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (75.97.128.170.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [75.97.128.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6sm5122324qcr.41.2010.08.21.17.32.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C707038.3070800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:32:56 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Boatwright References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:33:02 -0000 On 8/21/10 7:12 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> I changed the driver from vesa to nVidia but the nVidia driver could not >> be found and X exited. After restoring vesa I ran the test on xorg.conf >> -retro and it worked ok. However, startx still produced only a black >> screen. > > nVidia is a long story. There are binary drivers provided by nVidia, > and there's a limited open-source driver provided by xorg. Someone else > is going to have to provide detail. > > For now, vesa at 1024x768 should be fine. Just curious - why are you using vesa instead of nv (not nVidia)? Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 00:51:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FF1065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2DA8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BE2E9FA3 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:20 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Amk3AI4RcExV4js3PGdsb2JhbACHaYs2jRQMAQEBATUtukuDCAGCLgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="122234182" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 02:51:20 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7M0pIPx087865 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C707485.2050902@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100727 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C705A07.5000007@pp.dyndns.biz> <4C70631E.7020902@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <4C70631E.7020902@pp.dyndns.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Pidfile ends up in /tmp instead of /var/run [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:22 -0000 On 2010-08-22 01:37, Morgan Wesström wrote: > On 2010-08-22 00:58, Morgan Wesström wrote: >> I'm trying to create an rc script for the first time following the guide >> in the handbook. The script works as expected except for the pidfile >> which is created in /tmp for some reason I can't figure out. The daemon >> I try to run is a Linux program if that matters. Any help to solve this >> would be appreciated. Here's the rc script: >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> # PROVIDE: linuxdaemon >> # REQUIRE: NETWORKING DAEMON >> # BEFORE: LOGIN >> # KEYWORD: shutdown >> >> linuxdaemon_enable="${linuxdaemon_enable-NO}" >> >> . /etc/rc.subr >> >> name="linuxdaemon" >> rcvar=`set_rcvar` >> command="/usr/local/bin/linuxdaemon" >> command_args="-c /usr/local/etc/linuxdaemon.conf > /dev/null 2>&1" >> >> load_rc_config $name >> >> pidfile="/var/run/linuxdaemon.pid" >> required_files="/usr/local/etc/linuxdaemon.conf" >> >> run_rc_command "$1" >> > > Some additional info. Creating /compat/linux/tmp makes the pidfile move > there instead when I start the service. Creating /compat/linux/var/run > does _not_ make the pidfile appear there. I though for a brief moment > that I had to symlink /compat/linux/var/run to /var/run but that seems > to be the wrong solution. Still interested in some pointers while I > continue trying to solve this... > /Morgan Being the beginner on rc scripting that I am, I mistakenly believed the rc subsystem was responsible for creating the pid-file. I understand now that this is up to the daemon itself and in my case the location of the pid-file is hardcoded to /tmp in the binary blob. Adjusting the pidfile entry in the rc script to the pid-files true location solved the problem and the daemon is no playing nicely with rc. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 00:51:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A5810656A8 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952B8FC1B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so4685170qwg.13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:51:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.188.149 with SMTP id da21mr2422810qcb.84.1282438313337; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.95.145 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.48.179] In-Reply-To: <20100821231930.GB52873@thought.org> References: <20100821055224.ec9f0d12.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100821231930.GB52873@thought.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:51:54 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 05:52:24AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> I'm searching for a round-clock style clock application for X, >> and I would prefer a standalone program (not integrated with >> KDE, Gnome, or else). It should be possible to define several >> timezones and attach a label to each clock (which doesn't have >> to contain the name of the time zone, but an arbitrary string). >> >> It should look something like this: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 []=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The clock =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3DX >> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 ____ =A0 =A0 =A0____ =A0 =A0 =A0____ =A0 | >> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0/ =A0| \ =A0 =A0/ \ =A0\ =A0 =A0/ =A0 /\ =A0| >> =A0 =A0 =A0 | | =A0 +- | =A0| =A0-+ =A0| =A0| =A0 + =A0| | >> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0\____/ =A0 =A0\____/ =A0 =A0\__|_/ =A0| >> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 BLAH =A0 =A0 =A0MEOW =A0 =A0DOGFOOD! | >> =A0 =A0 =A0 +------------------------------+ >> >> Just as bankers and dynamical long-legged success-oriented >> group-dependent program managers use them. :-) >> >> In the ports, I found intclock, but it doesn't have round clocks, >> and additionally, it allows to add UTC, and it is shown, but upon >> program restart, it complains that "Timezone UTC not defined.". >> >> There is no need for a GUI configuration tool if the use of a >> configuration file is documented, and then just contains the >> TZ name and the label per clock, as simple as possible. >> >> Does such a program already exist? > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0how about using multiple instantiations of xclock? =A0 =A0= i used to have a > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0script with TZ=3D zulu, TZ=3Dmoscow, TZ=3Dtokyo. Yes, you can do that and it works like a charm: #!/bin/sh # display multiple xclock(1)s side by side for TIMEZONE in ZONE1 ZONE2 ZONE3 ... do env TZ=3D$TIMEZONE xclock done (replace ZONE1, ZONE2, ZONE3 with real time zones from /usr/share/zoneinfo) You could even set the xclock(s) nicely side by side by using the -geometry flag as in: env TZ=3D$TIMEZONE xclock -geometry "${WIDTH}x${HEIGHT}+${XOFF}+${YOFF}" I suggest to keep WIDTH, HEIGHT and YOFF constant, and to increment XOFF by $WIDTH plus some small constant for every new timezone (use 'expr' to do arithmetic). This way, you get them all arrayed side by side. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 00:55:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5526B106564A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126308FC1F for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so4686508qwg.13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.188.149 with SMTP id da21mr2424269qcb.84.1282438526341; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.95.145 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.48.179] In-Reply-To: References: <20100821055224.ec9f0d12.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100821231930.GB52873@thought.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:55:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:55:27 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:51 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Gary Kline wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 05:52:24AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >>> I'm searching for a round-clock style clock application for X, >>> and I would prefer a standalone program (not integrated with >>> KDE, Gnome, or else). It should be possible to define several >>> timezones and attach a label to each clock (which doesn't have >>> to contain the name of the time zone, but an arbitrary string). >>> >>> It should look something like this: >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 []=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The clock =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3DX >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 ____ =A0 =A0 =A0____ =A0 =A0 =A0____ =A0 | >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0/ =A0| \ =A0 =A0/ \ =A0\ =A0 =A0/ =A0 /\ =A0| >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 | | =A0 +- | =A0| =A0-+ =A0| =A0| =A0 + =A0| | >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0\____/ =A0 =A0\____/ =A0 =A0\__|_/ =A0| >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 BLAH =A0 =A0 =A0MEOW =A0 =A0DOGFOOD! | >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 +------------------------------+ >>> >>> Just as bankers and dynamical long-legged success-oriented >>> group-dependent program managers use them. :-) >>> >>> In the ports, I found intclock, but it doesn't have round clocks, >>> and additionally, it allows to add UTC, and it is shown, but upon >>> program restart, it complains that "Timezone UTC not defined.". >>> >>> There is no need for a GUI configuration tool if the use of a >>> configuration file is documented, and then just contains the >>> TZ name and the label per clock, as simple as possible. >>> >>> Does such a program already exist? >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0how about using multiple instantiations of xclock? =A0 = =A0i used to have a >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0script with TZ=3D zulu, TZ=3Dmoscow, TZ=3Dtokyo. > > Yes, you can do that and it works like a charm: > > =A0#!/bin/sh > =A0# display multiple xclock(1)s side by side > =A0for TIMEZONE in ZONE1 ZONE2 ZONE3 ... > =A0do > =A0 =A0 =A0env TZ=3D$TIMEZONE xclock Obviously, the trailing '&' is missing: env TZ=3D$TIMEZONE xclock & or you'd get only the first xclock > =A0done > > (replace ZONE1, ZONE2, ZONE3 with real time zones > from /usr/share/zoneinfo) > > You could even set the xclock(s) nicely side by side by using > the -geometry flag as in: > > =A0env TZ=3D$TIMEZONE xclock -geometry "${WIDTH}x${HEIGHT}+${XOFF}+${YOFF= }" Here too, don't forget the trailing '&' > I suggest to keep WIDTH, HEIGHT and YOFF constant, and > to increment XOFF by $WIDTH plus some small constant for > every new timezone (use 'expr' to do arithmetic). This way, > you get them all arrayed side by side. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 02:07:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166810656A7 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405088FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7M27cof080397; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7M27bdJ080394; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Fred Boatwright In-Reply-To: <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:07:40 -0000 Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 02:17:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6244B106566B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A23E8FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5874 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 02:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 02:17:15 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rWWVEr1xBtad for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 5862 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 02:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 02:17:14 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C7085E6.EF721E1E@blakemfg.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:05:26 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707038.3070800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:17:16 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > > On 8/21/10 7:12 PM, Warren Block wrote: > >> I changed the driver from vesa to nVidia but the nVidia driver could not > >> be found and X exited. After restoring vesa I ran the test on xorg.conf > >> -retro and it worked ok. However, startx still produced only a black > >> screen. > > > > nVidia is a long story. There are binary drivers provided by nVidia, > > and there's a limited open-source driver provided by xorg. Someone else > > is going to have to provide detail. > > > > For now, vesa at 1024x768 should be fine. > > Just curious - why are you using vesa instead of nv (not nVidia)? > > Regards, > > -- > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Glen, Vesa is what Xorg -configure comes up with. Should the nVidia driver name be nv? Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 02:21:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95211106566C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5898FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7M2Lcl3080431; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:21:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7M2LcnO080428; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:21:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:21:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Fred Boatwright In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:21:40 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log First notes: You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:53:38 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > First notes: > > You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. > > Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on adding fonts. While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install them now or wait. Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:21:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924B1065694 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leschnik@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB318FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so6380940wyj.13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O9pcwIsfJP0rA0iOd77uHn6qZZPakwxHo0kJ6blwnaY=; b=mAa51sPmqOr7JylCKIkTxXPH6lnrH8nUFtFEf0TlnfZc2g7kG9s3cbtq8JwsApjVKI eWI+gDQR6STQlbq5PdAEyePDlsq7gMvg+wW7YYNoXfwnLgRfMHakSbUh0Uqg0eZha6+L LyAXzEHnq3Txng4C6keZ1VAwRp0T6iA/hQ5CE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YPCxlsXjzV+LHctvVGVnHMR2ffLJ+niOz58zvSBA5o2XcsAx4zv4dIYl/ylklPaE05 tVMhB+Cl2AsX4+LnbJpdzF6Kl+h4Nu6M5aMt0kejNxDCYLrYHNf8Z6jccLnJ97wtcAaT A6Eh9cZhEVBg0/HDnstJPPoDTMWYae8cvaPEc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.46.15 with SMTP id q15mr2981472web.103.1282446837098; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.188.203 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C701AF1.7030304@stefreak.de> References: <4C701170.9080306@stefreak.de> <4C701AF1.7030304@stefreak.de> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:13:57 +1000 Message-ID: From: Jason Leschnik To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: IO fluctuation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:21:16 -0000 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17036& This is a good starting point, there is also some good info using certain tools to force the drives to not goto spindown sleep. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Steffen Neubauer wrote: > Hello Claudiu :) > > Sorry that I didn't answer these obvious questions in my first post. > > Am 21.08.2010 20:16, schrieb claudiu vasadi: > > How did you setup your drives in ZFS ? stripe ? >> > > raidz1 .... Here is my zpool status output: > > # zpool status > pool: tank > state: ONLINE > scrub: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE > CKSUM > tank ONLINE 0 0 > 0 > raidz1 ONLINE 0 0 > 0 > gptid/7b91a9b4-ab05-11df-8c6e-001d7d004144 ONLINE 0 0 > 0 > gptid/7cebaf7b-ab05-11df-8c6e-001d7d004144 ONLINE 0 0 > 0 > gptid/7e43d7a2-ab05-11df-8c6e-001d7d004144 ONLINE 0 0 > 0 > > errors: No known data errors > > > what bsd version do you have and what platform ? >> > > # uname -a > FreeBSD tank 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 UTC > 2010 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > Do you see this big fluctuation when copying some big file like say and >> iso >> or movie ? >> > > Both, on small filesystem access and when copying big files. > When I'm listening to music with VLC over NFS it stalls regularly. > When I'm working on the shell the commands block randomly for a certain > time. > > But I get that fluctuation on raw device access, too, look: > > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/zero bs=1M > ^C0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 9.848682 secs (0 bytes/sec) > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/zero bs=1M > ^C1056+0 records in > 1056+0 records out > 1107296256 bytes transferred in 9.492375 secs (116651130 bytes/sec) > > So this is not a zfs problem. But I don't think it's the hardware, too - I > used that mainboard before FreeBSD with no problems. > And the WD EARS drives can't be the problem on raw device access, too, > because I used bs=1M, that should be enough... > > This is really strange... > > Greetings, > Steffen > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Jason Leschnik. Mob. 0432 35 4224 Uni mail. jml974@uow.edu.au Work mail. jll@ansto.gov.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:22:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79431065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6FC8FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7M3MeTq080613; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7M3Meh5080610; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Fred Boatwright In-Reply-To: <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:22:43 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log >> >> First notes: >> >> You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. >> >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. The nice thing about the full xorg is that you get a known set of stuff, like twm. At worst, you could deinstall xorg-minimal and install xorg. > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on > adding fonts. Yes, it doesn't look like a serious problem. > While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of > nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install > them now or wait. Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else will have to comment on those. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:29:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C3210656A7 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leschnik@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F6A8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so2072081wwi.31 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=peaLpCh04psle5IU+2ilJqLB5tz8UiYQuLsWeh2wknE=; b=am5yF7ul7gagsZ/N3XaEjJqJvcTzu5bAG3hYSd9a3ZeaYr9sBLCBmPCcMXcYmO7qrd fGBSW1eRG8yzlvLWsZTQVOYZrXOI2cdNue3aIrPI7eQ0Mwj7tpqgoQok1I7woZyW3rDN /lkyZ5qdyV/E3dDqeLCsI1ahD9/vaHr8rZdAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ijrAVIkr/D9MRdhUjFwW62YYHxUjgXz8rp0z9RosSX8ScQapwTaBAPnsHtDwg420a6 4j/fZduckiALOW57fzdikZcoLMardOWtzWjKTUHRXKPbnVLrgkFp4StCwurv9ToyKAX3 v/iGH3VyL9gIaSn/6FzMmV5srntJPiaoyYo3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.4.6 with SMTP id 6mr1054855wei.62.1282446442744; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.188.203 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:07:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100822040959.3fb57897@kerberos.hades> References: <4C6FFF79.1030808@comcast.net> <4C7002F3.2070709@comcast.net> <201008211403.02403.lobo@bsd.com.br> <201008212024.15223.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> <20100822040959.3fb57897@kerberos.hades> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:07:22 +1000 Message-ID: From: Jason Leschnik To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: External HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:29:57 -0000 Is there much Data on the disk?, it may be worth while moving to FAT32 or a FS that is shared by both (If your happy to live with the <4GB max file size). On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Philipp Lengemann wrote= : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:24:14 +0300 > schrieb Elias Chrysocheris : > > > On Saturday 21 of August 2010 20:03:02 Mario Lobo wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 August 2010 13:46:43 Rem P Roberti wrote: > > > > > Rem P Roberti =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1= =82: > > > > >> I have a 500GB USB HD which I am able mount thus: > > > > >> mount_ntfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt > > > > >> > > > > >> Having done so I can copy from the external drive, but not > > > > >> write to it. What is necessary to implement in order to be > > > > >> able to write to an external hard drive? > > > > >> > > > > >> Rem > > > > > > > > > > use the port /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have installed the port and will give it a > > > > try, although I'm a little leery given Ryan's post. > > > > > > > > Rem > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > Don't forget to do this: > > > > > > cd /sbin > > > mv -f mount_ntfs mount_ntfs-kern > > > ln -s /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g mount_ntfs > > > > > > so you can mount your ntfs disk right from fstab. > > > > > > I have all my vbox vdi files on an ntfs drive and I'm yet to have a > > > problem with it. > > > > Well, I used to have an external NTFS hard drive. I used fusefs-ntfs > > and I could write in the drive. But there were times where the > > machine crashed and I couldn't even get a core dump. It also stoped > > durong the core dump and freezed... So I couldn't even place a PR for > > that... > > > > That was in amd64 architecture > > > > Best regards > > Elias > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Same problem here. Writing to NTFS with fuse-ntfs is also an experience > everytime. Don't rely on that! It brought me some nerve wracking > moments. > > - -- > GnuPG: 0x4BF7D606 | Jabber: phleng@jabber.ccc.de > - -- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxwhv0ACgkQlOPmvEv31gYmBgCgiXfFwzJFwvEDB5igavdFlIdH > 4tQAn3yjALF4/jMjE63bwF/4lOzAK+1K > =3DNj/k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Regards, Jason Leschnik. Mob. 0432 35 4224 Uni mail. jml974@uow.edu.au Work mail. jll@ansto.gov.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:42:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923210656C8 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795728FC15 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:42:37 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="925789153" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2010 23:13:34 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkZPAGkycExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACEE4NWizQBAY0UDAEBAQE1LboBhTcE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="275675314" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2010 23:13:34 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:13:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008212313.25259.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: New bwn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:42:37 -0000 I have an HP pavilion zd825us which has a Broadcom ethernet that appears to be supported by the new bwn driver. I have, for several years now, been using the NDIS driver based on Project Evil. Since bwn came out in 8.1, I tried it and it pretty much works but I get a couple errors sporadically. Here are the dmesgs: Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: siba_bwn0: mem 0xc8206000-0xc8207fff irq 17 at device 3.0 on pci11 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0 on siba_bwn0 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4318 rev 9) PHY (analog 3 type 2 rev 7) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2050 rev 8) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: DMA (32 bits) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: [FILTER] Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: firmware version (rev 410 patch 2160 date 0x751a time 0x7c0a) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: need multicast update callback Aug 20 17:01:37 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: RX decryption attempted (old 0 keyidx 0x2) Occasionally, a message appears on the console indicating that mDNSResponder had an issue: Aug 20 19:45:42 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSPlatformSendUDP got error 51 (Network is unreachable) sending packet to 224.0.0.251 on interface 127.0.0.1/lo0/2 Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder (Engineering Build) (Aug 4 2010 09:50:01) starting And when I use the NDIS driver, I see this lock not held... Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNS_AddDNSServer: Lock not held! mDNS_busy (0) mDNS_reentrancy (0) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:45:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529691065695 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf10.insightbb.com (mxsf10.insightbb.com [74.128.0.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A508FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:45:11 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="188384576" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf10.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2010 23:17:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkZPAMwzcExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACEE4NWizQBAY0UDAEBAQE1LboKhTcE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="377966764" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2010 23:17:01 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:17:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008212317.00869.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: New bwn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:45:12 -0000 I have an HP pavilion zd825us which has a Broadcom ethernet that appears to be supported by the new bwn driver. I have, for several years now, been using the NDIS driver based on Project Evil. Since bwn came out in 8.1, I tried it and it pretty much works but I get a couple errors sporadically. Here are the dmesgs: Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: siba_bwn0: mem 0xc8206000-0xc8207fff irq 17 at device 3.0 on pci11 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0 on siba_bwn0 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4318 rev 9) PHY (analog 3 type 2 rev 7) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2050 rev 8) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: DMA (32 bits) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: [FILTER] Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: firmware version (rev 410 patch 2160 date 0x751a time 0x7c0a) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: need multicast update callback Aug 20 17:01:37 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: RX decryption attempted (old 0 keyidx 0x2) Occasionally, a message appears on the console indicating that mDNSResponder had an issue: Aug 20 19:45:42 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSPlatformSendUDP got error 51 (Network is unreachable) sending packet to 224.0.0.251 on interface 127.0.0.1/lo0/2 Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder (Engineering Build) (Aug 4 2010 09:50:01) starting And when I use the NDIS driver, I see this lock not held... Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNS_AddDNSServer: Lock not held! mDNS_busy (0) mDNS_reentrancy (0) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:54:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987661065693 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CED58FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22116 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 03:54:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 03:54:47 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HFdtDm9Ucjqm for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:54:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22087 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 03:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 03:54:46 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C709CC3.3F571FE3@blakemfg.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:59 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:54:48 -0000 Eitan Adler wrote: > > >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > > huge amount of software that will never get used.  I don't want all the > > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > > > > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > > everything else is working.  I think the Handbook has a section on > > adding fonts. > > > > Hi, > I'm the maintainer of x11/xorg-minimal. I have not been following this thread. > > Did you have problems with fonts when installing x11/xorg-minimal ? > > -- > Eitan Adler Hi Eitan, The Xorg.0.log file shows it can't find some expected fonts. The file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely black screen. Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro produces the expected grid and mouse pointer. A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window manager. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 03:59:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4F51065694 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F208FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so5150827iwn.13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.17.1 with SMTP id q1mr4256696iba.17.1282449547296; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:59:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.135 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:58:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C709CC3.3F571FE3@blakemfg.com> References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <4C709CC3.3F571FE3@blakemfg.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:58:47 -0400 Message-ID: To: Fred Boatwright Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:59:08 -0000 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Fred Boatwright wrote= : > Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. >> > >> > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a >> > huge amount of software that will never get used. =C4=80 I don't want = all the >> > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. >> > >> > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when >> > everything else is working. =C4=80 I think the Handbook has a section = on >> > adding fonts. >> > >> >> Hi, >> I'm the maintainer of x11/xorg-minimal. I have not been following this t= hread. >> >> Did you have problems with fonts when installing x11/xorg-minimal ? >> >> -- >> Eitan Adler > > Hi Eitan, > The Xorg.0.log file shows it can't find some expected fonts. =C2=A0The fi= le > is at > http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log These are harmless. X.org will work without them which is why I didn't depend on them on x11/xorg-minimal > The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely > black screen. =C2=A0Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro =C2=A0produces the = expected > grid and mouse pointer. =C2=A0A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a wind= ow > manager. Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? > > Best regards, > Fred > --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 04:26:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F622106564A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=843db1774=joeb_722@comclark.com) Received: from vg1-esaclark.comclark.com (vg1-esaclark.comclark.com [202.69.191.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D191C8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:26:54 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlVKALk8cEzKRa3gPGdsb2JhbACFeYFwjiuKKwEBAQE1ujqFNwSEM4hA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,249,1280678400"; d="scan'208";a="20904536" Received: from unknown (HELO [202.69.173.224]) ([202.69.173.224]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 11:57:13 +0800 Message-ID: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:57:12 +0800 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ZFS & jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:26:55 -0000 I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use for a jail directory tree. Is this possible? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 04:34:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C86F1065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F9228FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29836 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 04:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 04:34:38 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a6yhFrr4P05P for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 29785 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 04:34:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 04:34:34 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:48 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <4C709CC3.3F571FE3@blakemfg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:34:39 -0000 Eitan Adler wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Eitan Adler wrote: > >> > >> >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > >> > > >> > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > >> > huge amount of software that will never get used. Ä? I don't want all the > >> > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > >> > > >> > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > >> > everything else is working. Ä? I think the Handbook has a section on > >> > adding fonts. > >> > > >> > >> Hi, > >> I'm the maintainer of x11/xorg-minimal. I have not been following this thread. > >> > >> Did you have problems with fonts when installing x11/xorg-minimal ? > >> > >> -- > >> Eitan Adler > > > > Hi Eitan, > > The Xorg.0.log file shows it can't find some expected fonts.  The file > > is at > > http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > These are harmless. X.org will work without them which is why I didn't > depend on them on x11/xorg-minimal > > > The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely > > black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected > > grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window > > manager. > Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black > screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? > > > > > Best regards, > > Fred > > > > -- > Eitan Adler The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray & xterm -geometry +0-100 & xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm I have also tried twm. This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. I don't understand why xterm and xconsole are to be started before the window manager. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 05:36:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC0E106566C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363178FC1B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:36:58 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAAJScEyWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAH2wyFNwSEMw Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 15:06:57 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Rod Person In-Reply-To: <20100819133347.DD671B822@www6.pairlite.com> References: <20100819110427.A6A3B10656F7@hub.freebsd.org> <20100819220048.N45487@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20100819133347.DD671B822@www6.pairlite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:06:54 +0930 Message-ID: <1282455414.58781.14994.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:36:59 -0000 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 09:33 -0400, Rod Person wrote: > Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine > when a posting to the lists need moderation? > I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or > comments such as above. > > But, then I try to post something and I get a "you posting is > awaiting moderator approval". Then I get a email that > my posting was rejected with comments that state "I don't see what > this has to do with FreeBSD". But, then we have > these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see replies > that go way off topic of FreeBSD. > > Just wondering. I've received a response like that "awaiting moderator approval" when I've inadvertently sent a message to a list from other than my subscribed address. I don't recall ever seeing such a response from a non-subscription list (like -questions). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 06:25:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B70A1065673 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900588FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:25:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14251113 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:25:52 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7M5PpAN042417 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:25:51 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7M5PpeL042416 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:25:51 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:25:51 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:25:56 -0000 Colleagues, What tricks do you use if you need to allow a packet and then fwd it (or vice versa)? The search terminates and the packet quits ipfw on "fwd" as well as on "allow". How do I allow a packet and then policy route it? An example ruleset will be appreciated. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 06:31:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967F81065670 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C35C8FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:31:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GErw3X8Lcf3Z9lMGtD9UKGVOjv9oy6ZCQt0FNm8Yy60= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wTwVZmRG0EeNCYhkxzeBEQ==:17 a=2Mj_h8BoAAAA:8 a=2kSMesU442LT_0nTFrgA:9 a=r8CCRzKkm-vampOwOb-Dwhfz3cQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2qsELijTPK4A:10 a=wTwVZmRG0EeNCYhkxzeBEQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.49.189.17 Received: from [67.49.189.17] ([67.49.189.17:37343] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id D0/90-06787-424C07C4; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:31:01 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22D65CAF; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:34:59 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7M6YwZN002354; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:34:58 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:34:58 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Fred Boatwright Message-ID: <20100822063458.GA2220@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Fred Boatwright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <4C709CC3.3F571FE3@blakemfg.com> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:31:02 -0000 in message <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com>, wrote Fred Boatwright thusly... > > The .xinitrc file: > xrdb > xsetroot -solid gray & > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > exec fvwm ... > I don't understand why xterm and xconsole are to be started before > the window manager. Window manager is started at the end so that when it exits, it takes all the open programs with it. If you start the window manager in background too ... xrdb ... exec fvwm & ... then all you would see is a flash of window opening (and subsequently closing) as no program would be there to block exiting out of X11. You could start any other program in foreground after starting window manager ... xrdb ... fvwm & # Exit this xterm, exit out of X11. exec xterm -T 'Die, Die!' You would need to then exit that program so that open files close, other programs die, X11 shuts down, and so on, so forth. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:09:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1921065698 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27978FC19 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so5250682iwn.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:09:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XteevZTxKkBARbOmswaXn1imwgkPrUpzUdM1fHky2J0=; b=BAn+gAfoF6h99V9Xo+iuVhQyEl5DpQkI3XrLHZS8d15+VfMOHEoavqZ9o7U+apLX/8 UkLX3IObB+Q1ErlIxnKyeuKzgkfogIDD1u+z1RCjSXvS49gz/dlWtkyYIh6v25WFiHCj dbzAAWQu4I4dTjtygLVgGh/u1Fp77x1LEhtO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iF3FHCguvhUax8x3o24Tzy5W2uB27z2sGUCS/egX7FNMkKYvh2+etBob+nGyVgbW5S oIVOSGJMYt7X4hnjoB2ZaCTiOQQvbDyLp9jP5znr3T8GM9OcmkM4McVuv99nmM4wCLF2 Jyta8gwIR/RXSVTyqyJhVRcCIn1iaIkYD+eKM= Received: by 10.231.15.8 with SMTP id i8mr3595788iba.12.1282460990192; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centel.dataix.local (adsl-99-190-84-182.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.84.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r3sm4675774ibk.1.2010.08.22.00.09.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Message-ID: <4C70CD3A.6030606@DataIX.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:09:46 -0400 From: jhell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Klymenko References: <20100819095728.10713.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> <20100819070410.4bd8a225@scorpio> <20100819143053.03e53986@ukr.net> In-Reply-To: <20100819143053.03e53986@ukr.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd.user@seibercom.net Subject: Re: change the password e-mail account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:09:51 -0000 > All senders, with this the contents of letter, an urgent need to change > the password e-mail account! > I think that broke password mailboxes... > >>From my email too, came a letter to the mailing list, but I did not > send it :( Bull$hit, You can knock that crap off right now or your no better than the person that set this garbage up or your the person behind it trying to work some social engineering tactic that is playing out like a script kiddie on k00laid. Regards, -- jhell,v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:19:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314851065697 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56298FC17 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so5255027iwn.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Dl+e7HEv/U7FFndJAxMNHcpSxIAfjP9bAsWsBks42g=; b=Z+9P1lDkJ8mPBBRMkkvNqjSmhAsJ0MVU5ygZXQwYB2wvDLM6dxjXlY8XZGcYmg7Tka i1ToJ7dK9X9j5O9HxGVcwZArKRXLR1nvk8k4V66KDA8/bgn10zp8cQ7S3bzReIxajD4n y/VbaIMgPVe+kuQji0WOd8vqvhLZlFNfjg7LA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iO5Aa/S5WByp22Uer2HxachaOk9oqG4f9SfyAzAXF5QikpD/jycQUwW8giWmb7Wbnv shrS/8AD9pmcveDZY+zrdA6wS8FLVGIGogsV26ySdZwelMKjlD+TMInrD/2iooJlbpEY DhF21Fw61m7MplnVL3mhe76Ak6D/6wMsV4ras= Received: by 10.231.183.10 with SMTP id ce10mr4467532ibb.96.1282461544230; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centel.dataix.local (adsl-99-190-84-182.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.84.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n20sm4681977ibe.5.2010.08.22.00.19.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Message-ID: <4C70CF65.6010008@DataIX.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:19:01 -0400 From: jhell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C6C8E2B.5090500@gmail.com> <4C6CE8EB.6080701@gmail.com> <4C6D0205.9080708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C6D0205.9080708@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:19:05 -0000 On 08/19/2010 06:05, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/19/10 4:18 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: >> So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the >> server machine? > > I can - I would prefer not to. > Compile a static version of ircII and run it from the object directory without installing it. -- jhell,v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:25:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85EA10656A7 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D9A8FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so5258034iwn.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:25:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Q3tnQ+D4oBbAtFJXn+gWtUMZ7QfuUvkokFxVfb+G5k=; b=j3esTyGpEzjUY8ezUeZ54Q+7tTw4LpEuhBXBncwklvfsJBbwXIyKxUfkZJ7ZSdXyhU pzQc0wikagBexOmQLy47QqiGmglO7kEZo3gd5J9htnt7BaHVJj9TydkGwISzSllMT9Q2 XW4S7Wx9DFzJYQJYWQo7sFs2PvCd+4fo7F4Ig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Sb/lmF7aPWAyV+BaVfrISYUXRHF/+CuNQHTc8FasNdIkzboIQNsBCNxvDV0Fqk7Qd6 BN6obDOrbW3kyFjSgpG6dhyDkAq1IM3k39c+BnxT3M6+GZgays/tguTwR/XLhEd89HUU dg5LBpJkXmV6PArtTWZT2zWV0JwVGWLV1s/gw= Received: by 10.231.149.80 with SMTP id s16mr4526800ibv.81.1282460274376; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centel.dataix.local (adsl-99-190-84-182.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.84.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm4661723iba.12.2010.08.21.23.57.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Message-ID: <4C70CA6F.2060803@DataIX.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:57:51 -0400 From: jhell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe References: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ZFS & jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:25:31 -0000 On 08/21/2010 23:57, Joe wrote: > I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except > booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use > for a jail directory tree. > > Is this possible? In other words, why would it not be possible ?. Have fun it sounds like you have a system that could have gave you a reply before this question had been answered here. Regards, -- jhell,v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:44:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E331065696 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2E48FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5B1E30E; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:44:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7M7itiK001605; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:44:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:44:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: claudiu vasadi Message-Id: <20100822094455.fecb3aa8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:44:58 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:12:03 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: > I added the corresponding fstab entries and then I deliberately > removed the "/mnt/2" folder. Sorry for sounding picky, but FreeBSD does not have "folders". Those are called directories. Please try to use the correct terminology. You don't talk about files as "sheets of paper" either, do you? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 07:53:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27851065698 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668918FC19 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:e8a4:c9c5:fe91:bf3b] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:e8a4:c9c5:fe91:bf3b]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 1799126 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C70D770.6040805@stillbilde.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:53:20 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6FF25D.1090304@stillbilde.net> <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4716C2A9A3574589FF89161F" Subject: Re: Parklogic making a mess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:53:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4716C2A9A3574589FF89161F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22.08.2010 00:48, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 > Svein Skogen wrote: >=20 >> Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: >=20 > I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them.= > I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an > anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had > hoped for! I got the exact same response, hence my decision that the entire /18 belonging to this non-serious ISP needs null-routing. They are forging from-adresses, and clearly have no intention of fixing their mess, expecting everyone else to run anti-spam products to sort out THEIR probl= em. I still think the correct response for this is to make sure the freebsd.org servers won't be reaching their net (that will stop the forged messages being triggered by incoming mail), and it just might be that one or more of their customers will be giving this supplier the message they NEED to hear: Not sorting out your broken configuration costs you money. //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enig4716C2A9A3574589FF89161F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxw13QACgkQODUnwSLUlKQckQCfUbdmPuckmP02DijaP9J4qGqN adkAoJyqYGy2fmgHmNRry2ZYWQqC/rtN =Mcgb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4716C2A9A3574589FF89161F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:02:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A3E1065679 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9D48FC19 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o7M7q3Gx017820; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:52:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7M7q2WN001544; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:52:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7M7pv2a001543; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:51:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:51:57 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Fred Boatwright Message-ID: <20100822075157.GA1485@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:02:24 -0000 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:41:49PM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > > > > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > > > First notes: > > > > You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. > > > > Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on > adding fonts. > > While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of > nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install > them now or wait. > For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: "make install" or "make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver" ? Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should be proposed. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:17:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743BF10656A3 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51D38FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7M8HdCa051788; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:17:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CDC5BAA6; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:17:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:17:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20100822081739.GA10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4C6FF25D.1090304@stillbilde.net> <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parklogic making a mess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:17:44 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:48:50PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 > Svein Skogen wrote: >=20 > > Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: >=20 > I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. > I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an > anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had > hoped for! So far these messages come from a single machine (look at the "Received ...= by mx1.freebsd.org" line), 64.38.11.26, which is in a netblock owned by Layered Technologies, Inc. The postmaster for freebsd.org has been warned, so he might take action (refusing mail from that IP address). If not, on the 19th, I sent a complaint to abuse@layeredtech.com including = one of the spam e-mails with full headers. I propose we wait for a week to see = if Layered Tech take action. If not, then I think it is time some more people = sent complaints. :-) For those in the US, you can also phone them, see http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LAT-ARIN. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxw3SMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWKnQCcCaMGS59aU0AYIauF7/Tjgk3U uL8AnjAddSvQGdEp+FyDiPkDiRdEo8wB =oTwU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:19:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B379E10656A4 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E798FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DF51E332; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:19:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7M8JXqF001678; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:19:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:19:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: claudiu vasadi Message-Id: <20100822101933.4e53626f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:19:35 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:12:03 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: > What happened when a "secondary" hdd cannot be mounted at boot ? From > experience I know the OS drops to single user mode, which I find incredibly > stupid because a "non-OS" hdd should not stop the OS from booting up > (imagine the hdd has a malfunction and then you get lucky enough to get a > power surge - the OS won't come up because of a darn non-OS-important hdd). The OS does not know about how you are intending to use a hard disk. It just knows that /etc/fstab retuires (!) the mounting of a certain partition at boot time. If this fails, the boot process will NOT go on. An example: Let's say you have a mountpoint /foo on the / partition. This partition has 200 MB free space. The mountpoint /foo will usually be used for the /dev/da0 disk. After boot, a program will periodically output data to /foo, and will soon produce several GB of data within short time. Now assume the system comes up, /dev/da0 not present, okay, don't mind. Result: Soon / will be full. Problem. A similar situation happens if a mountpoint that /etc/fstab requires (!) to be present is NOT present. To the OS, this is a problematic situation as it requires operator decision. > TEST scenario: > 2 hdd's. The system is installed on the first one, and the second one has > "/mnt/2" as mountpoin. The 2nd disk was labeled and a new ufs partition was > created. I added the corresponding fstab entries and then I deliberately > removed the "/mnt/2" folder. Directory. :-) > FYI: this "secondary" hdd has no data on it whatsoever. The OS does not know that. > Then I rebooted and of course the system went in single user mode. And now > my question: "WHY????" (I know that "rc" finishes abnormally) A solution would be to code "noauto" for this mount in /etc/fstab, and then add a custom mount call in /etc/rc.local which can check both the existance of the device and the mountpoint. You could also just ignore the errors, because (as far as I remember) a failing operation in rc.local won't stop the system to fully come up. > The hdd has no relevant data on it, the OS has no files on it ... basically > it does not get in the way of anything (except the perfect execution of the > "rc" framework). Then mount manually after boot. > Anyway, it seems to me that "secondary" hdd's mount failure should be > "ignored" and an OS should be able to come up if one mountpoint does not > exist or if an entry in fstab is wrong (again, I am talking about non-OS > related hdd/mountpoints). I'm not sure how the OS should be able to decide about that, what's an "OS mount" and what's a "non-OS mount". > To make things worst, I tested a RHEL5 and the system booted without any > problems even if the "secondary" hdd's mp was missing. I won't elaborate on why Linux behaviour is not a reference point for different operating systems. :-) > Can someone explain this "weird?" behavior ? Intended behaviour - PREDICTABLE and SECURE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:20:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8701065693 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE188FC1B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773AC1DCF9; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7M8KYq8001685; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:20:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:20:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Adam Vande More Message-Id: <20100822102034.a6ea375b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100821055224.ec9f0d12.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:20:36 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:05:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > /usr/ports/deskutils/google-gadgets > Around the World The dependencies are scaring me off. :-/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:26:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0FD106566B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A67E8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4258B1E3E2; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:26:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7M8Q24W001711; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:26:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:26:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100822102602.485640ea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100821055224.ec9f0d12.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100821231930.GB52873@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:26:04 -0000 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:52 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > Yes, you can do that and it works like a charm: > > #!/bin/sh > # display multiple xclock(1)s side by side > for TIMEZONE in ZONE1 ZONE2 ZONE3 ... > do > env TZ=$TIMEZONE xclock > done > > (replace ZONE1, ZONE2, ZONE3 with real time zones > from /usr/share/zoneinfo) I already thought about that solution, and using -title should be possible (as it is with oclock) to "simulate" a caption for that clock. Basically, intclock is quite fine, but I prefer round clocks, all controllable as ONE window; I already thought about merging intclock with xclock (and looking at oclock), but going with multiple xclocks will be fine, too. > You could even set the xclock(s) nicely side by side by using > the -geometry flag as in: > > env TZ=$TIMEZONE xclock -geometry "${WIDTH}x${HEIGHT}+${XOFF}+${YOFF}" > > I suggest to keep WIDTH, HEIGHT and YOFF constant, and > to increment XOFF by $WIDTH plus some small constant for > every new timezone (use 'expr' to do arithmetic). This way, > you get them all arrayed side by side. Right, I've been playing with -geometry for many years now in order to place certain little windows (without titlebar and all the stuff) into the lower left corner of my display: xbiff, xclock, xlogo, xload, xmbmon, and finally an xterm, so they are nicely placed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:34:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9721065696 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D658FC1F for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7M8YktH053408; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F949BAA6; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:34:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100820213828.GB71642@thought.org> <20100821000740.GB72182@thought.org> <4C6FBA80.6050103@gmail.com> <20100821231317.GA52873@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100821231317.GA52873@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:34:49 -0000 --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > >On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > >>On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > >> > > >>>of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can "click-over" > > >>>to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server > > >>>[ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really > > >>>cannot do much on ethic. > > >>> > > >>>i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. > > >>>that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) > > >>>working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me > > >>>with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. beca= use > > >>>of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl arou= nd > > >>>under there (&c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for= me > > >>>to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types > > >>>who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. > > >>> > > >>/usr/ports/sysutils/synergy > > >> > > > > > > this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it > > > depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. ..... > > > > >=20 > > ssh? > >=20 >=20 > sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS=20 > set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via > ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get > ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you n= eed to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X installed on the server? Why would you need X to "properly upgrade things?" The upgrading of both the OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that y= ou can make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one she= ll to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if = you have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh can also do X forwarding. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxw4SYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUP1wCgk7B4dsWJxl2FvcDWYICD991M 2KQAnRr/+vYpnQpaEgBXTFYdCnLFJboV =RXSy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 08:37:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B0210656A5 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from basarevych@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F300D8FC23 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5057450qyk.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 01:37:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nc2c3LmKFzRTCoSet7FhaRx9XK35t6IgiKMr4jwb/kA=; b=MKUh5VBD4+kpZ5Iw0k/gEwBehM9NH1eXCKFHUqVhXL37g9AU+1odrgxigqQlOVj+J7 EgnKi/MIM8s3XA6Wt3enqZjDgO4c3K5GtuXwUm3zvljow/2XOOB4ONQhA8wt5tHBTW0D 8Y3SeHwNtsXRfy2qb8YFADXPft1HT6i0VFQu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QreEClQW9LUM98pQjoMk8Pp9iYzbWLyx8GG3UrrkF6jCjI7ZCSAHlkL2BvZ+4pPPSr FGbj3/D8nvLLwGY5LCjeDnPiG6XmfpAx10sAx23+fOcgcFTm6NClq5G1MHikIUw9Di4g E8Z6mg0qV6eirBhA9WDi370N/7qH0BKnls2DA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.181.8 with SMTP id bw8mr2541063qcb.113.1282464339671; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 01:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.69.138 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 01:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:05:39 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ross To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: perl & p5-Gtk2: FileChooser hangs infinitely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:37:11 -0000 Hi, all. Could you please test this script (requires x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2): ----- #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use Gtk2 -init; my $filechooser = Gtk2::FileChooserButton->new("Choose a file", 'open'); print "XXX\n"; ----- It should just print XXX and exit. On my system (8.1-STABLE/amd64) it never prints anything. Just hangs on the first line. I don't know what to do - submit a PR? Reinstall everything? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 09:25:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5E21065695 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77988FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so1012841bwz.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MFT9EnZBkEA6miz4+Zq0nNhcLu1t298s3KlsTtjK1Ak=; b=HhJFskmeBoiRp3q7R8EiT/h8aDVMTy4BEWN12AVR17KiM/dOYDfDQnTvY3mSFt8TV5 P1vycI2FKcggan6KIqSfqspNCwzBs1sglCpsd1iiJaqlz17WkU/I6GOI9oQuJGnR/HSX zqc6CQ0ElCGSw7fWjd1R/xwmj10q8owOhinJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=du/yvWfN9amgy6GEfikehoBTmrM/msqcnLIqqrJ6EOOEeW2FWDL6ZhniEzb3aCjJ6H EW81piZNtR+Il1vi5pAvWkl8GQanG6jbwzGePDp+urytqD/DfWAVfocwOb0vhYWPc+gB P0vXAqnSRVGtzNac6Pq0QLO/oqZbBhlAAlHKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.82.200 with SMTP id c8mr2580615bkl.102.1282469098690; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.75.6 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Linux DRI as software renderer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:25:00 -0000 Hi, I have a trouble running enemy-territory (from port) using Linux emulation. I enabled the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU knob to get a full hardware GLX with my radeon hd4330 mobility and it works well for native games such as teeworlds, UrbanTerror and so on. The problem is enemy-territory and linux games like ut2004-demo too. Enemy territory starts with : [...] ----- R_Init ----- ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 6: 1024 768 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) Major opcode of failed request: 136 Minor opcode of failed request: 1 Serial number of failed request: 30 Using 4/4/4 Color bits, 24 depth, 0 stencil display. GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer Initializing OpenGL extensions ...GL_S3_s3tc not found ...ignoring GL_EXT_texture_env_add ...using GL_ARB_multitexture ...using GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array ...GL_NV_fog_distance not found ... GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic not found Initializing GLX extensions ... GLX_SGI_swap_control not found ... GLX_SGI_video_sync not found XF86 Gamma extension initialized GL_VENDOR: Mesa Project --> GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer <-- This is probably the problem ! GL_VERSION: 2.1 Mesa 7.3-devel GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_separate_stenGLX_EXTENSIONS: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_OML_swap_method GLX_SGIS_multisample GLX_SGIX_fbconfig GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 2048 GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 8 And the game is really slow, you can't do anything, I don't know then how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri by the way dri was missing to games/linux-enemyterritory, I will probably send a PR for this. Kind regards. -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 09:27:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7191065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE6A8FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so2283245wwi.31 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5IAGW6jN8+bnxh+4UmbNC/+dzMhdZLIJjgTMWBmDciM=; b=Bb22LV0CKVSX8KN4IxaiFIBCLe477n2GMVeEMiEjgy6VM09ZeTJc5PWYiN+UC7960g QX/JTM/+tDAJMKBojhI6i/gZ5j+n5nLjVxZsQsy+tOM+OClx6kEw+eDD2993aaYRi0cr rA68cwsp7sGgRdGLRum8BrMLexTVCcR9SYBwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CcVG9EilpA4GiqULyjeyfS7rGqHu2jk3Hl+y9OnPF+L7wj7KxDcl9aSldZxNIzAKO1 /0/GDRGXxNhFfnncJSrxZtUnfOzsYXV/38IM07+A9UA1r09Nie33ZPDM864dqUEd3bFX zvy85ZMmjnb6M8P22tTalZlroQMDTv5DVIkRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.159.131 with SMTP id s3mr3203555wek.99.1282469222310; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.179.201 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100822101933.4e53626f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100822101933.4e53626f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:27:04 -0000 ok, so I will make a secondary mount script that would check and mount any "non-OS-related" mp's. This would include setting all "non-OS" mp's to "noauto" in fstab and creating a secondary script to read fstab, check if all is in order and finally mount, or exit in error. This way, the OS sticks to it's ideology and the "secondary" mp's do not interfere with that ideology in any way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 09:55:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473201065696 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@dusk.parklogic.com) Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9638FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17224 invoked by uid 511); 22 Aug 2010 08:15:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20100822081520.17223.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> From: "Roland Smith" To: "Jack L. 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Regards, Webmaster References 1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 09:58:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912311065673 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526AD8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B67F1E0A5; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:58:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7M9wJFI007430; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:58:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:58:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: claudiu vasadi Message-Id: <20100822115819.c8997ef3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100822101933.4e53626f.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:58:21 -0000 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0200, claudiu vasadi wrote: > ok, so I will make a secondary mount script that would check and mount any > "non-OS-related" mp's. > > This would include setting all "non-OS" mp's to "noauto" in fstab and > creating a secondary script to read fstab, check if all is in order and > finally mount, or exit in error. This way, the OS sticks to it's ideology > and the "secondary" mp's do not interfere with that ideology in any way. You can use "lazy man's" /etc/rc.local, or write an rc.d style script, or simply mount it manually when needed. For example, I have a second disk for "operated backups", with noauto in /etc/fstab, which I mount manually on the occassions I want to use it, so it's kept unmounted when not needed (good for security, good for my mind). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 10:04:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076901065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903198FC1E for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so6641037wyj.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+MPQmLnFBAatkkzWVuybOLiMZQrRhjd61f4tKJWWqGc=; b=qabZ8TNlcy6BxhqMPJrB/oKKLChKu5gZeYaVcuJVKMGwdviWuNRjgb4eTJCSKmxBBn w6eO0sKObRuuIecIHHox3pEXFQgFaa04bRLuyvJh+JvqUR78xE4y4pYwm1tWvDp2SxcA ImobVtpo8FL/mYlefI1x49XX9H+G0QhdAi7hc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vQucHidnRuSNIlDIVOU2ZPvAlVJ6kNNOxzbEV496EXA0B8pxf47xuK0FLSud/M8G7N VyF0e0657wGDmPmS/j2hZrbi5HplW4SugC66T1r02z5/ziUpUvKCZodmQHPxuXATfA5l bC8MPTVz7lxUR77u9Hz0z00aM5P5Tx4qNRrdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.128.18 with SMTP id i18mr3211024wbs.135.1282471476420; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.179.201 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:04:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100822115819.c8997ef3.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100822101933.4e53626f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100822115819.c8997ef3.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:04:38 -0000 I will write a rc.d script. It seems like the correct way to go. Manual mount is out of the question :) I will e-mail my end "product" ps: I know it's a dir and not a folder ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 10:05:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318B1065697 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68858FC2A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.175.196.76] (helo=alya) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1On7A7-000HxQ-B5; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:48:23 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: David DEMELIER References: Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:48:21 +0400 In-Reply-To: (David DEMELIER's message of "Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200") Message-ID: <27514906@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux DRI as software renderer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:05:07 -0000 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200 David DEMELIER wrote: > I don't know then > how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory > port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri Please give a try to graphics/linux-dri74 instead of graphics/linux-f10-dri. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 10:55:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C801065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD4C8FC18 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:55:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQFAKeecExbsT74/2dsb2JhbACTH40UcrgwhTcE Received: from 248.62-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.177.62.248]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 12:55:56 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7MAttBi002338; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:55:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:55:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; i386; ; ) References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3495898.BoZipbfyox"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008221255.55485.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: Fred Boatwright Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:55:58 -0000 --nextPart3495898.BoZipbfyox Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > Eitan Adler wrote: >>> The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely >>> black screen. =C2 Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro =C2 produces the ex= pected >>> grid and mouse pointer. =C2 A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a wind= ow >>> manager. >> >> Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black >> screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? >=20 > The .xinitrc file: > xrdb > xsetroot -solid gray & > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > exec fvwm >=20 > I have also tried twm. > This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. Check if you actually have those programs installed. If not, you need to install these ports: x11/xrdb, x11/xsetroot, x11/xterm, x11/xconsole, x11-wm/fvwm. --nextPart3495898.BoZipbfyox Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iF4EABEIAAYFAkxxAjsACgkQfoCS2CCgtitHuAD+JeLdnq9MEspuJaHUWgGWV7DG uPddISwCWb2vbsh3H/MA/iU0VO9q6AXv82arOaVzOo1ZPqKMA2oIJseK55CfMDiL =v3sh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3495898.BoZipbfyox-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 11:12:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A5210656A4 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894608FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so6686339wyj.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:12:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A9ZavDe19qcIzUTW4jVN1j20k7fd/Y4HuzysoE3+zYU=; b=nOOlRGInx5LN3+zMVHneyGTlHb9nlx0iX3K+J6B5Aumodj4WiJwRa/hpgPieQZUuXa 6D7kfwbmbprhQ25NLsBb8OkHEppWXIq7kU/u/KOmj0S4rRsjL+xwWzMUuON0WGB+9lAc /74KayzBpSveolmWrYOG7Vo7ZBEVfyP8j1hDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Df50QE1VsPVdCYtfBAe3nqAqd9yhOvGUhtRMmMz2mWzy5IR62ATdFgZye4+i/scx4R J/lY2pgI+tnpfTKEVdfX1ERJJnR0cucGtNTSzQaboEkFVE/PINgYycEKmW+GN15E/qla ptHgi2Ee0f3aKPJhlIh/QiEA2DdYdYyq7NcFE= Received: by 10.227.135.211 with SMTP id o19mr3349569wbt.73.1282475539894; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (34.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b23sm4048099wbb.10.2010.08.22.04.12.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C7105F1.10900@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:11:45 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100818 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <27514906@ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <27514906@ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux DRI as software renderer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:12:22 -0000 On 22/08/2010 11:48, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200 David DEMELIER wrote: > >> I don't know then >> how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory >> port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri > Please give a try to graphics/linux-dri74 instead of > graphics/linux-f10-dri. > I'm running on amd64 and I enabled WITHOUT_LIB32 in my /etc/src.conf, does it matters ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 12:07:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38071065679 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F218FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA56D1FFC34; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95965844B1; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:48:37 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: gahn References: <781712.60498.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:48:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <781712.60498.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (gahn's message of "Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:08:30 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <86occukgve.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: meory file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:07:51 -0000 gahn writes: > I am running 8.1. under /dev, I don't see /dev/md0, /dev/md0 won't show up until you actually run mdconfig. > so i am trying to add following lines in kernel file and got error > messages: > > options MFS #Memory Filesystem The correct line is "device md", but mdconfig(8) will automatically load the module, so you don't need it. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 12:20:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0171065673 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662758FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5214143vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:20:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PtbdZAt78FvBcH8EFHPk2iAZIygIu5aIrT7bp39iWB8=; b=unnAq7W4GosHIZaWQ/yP9TlozdpdPRIMYmK0yy6QFDpLJSuo+5npQASioon+TcDfoB RK0Ecbe14MfvmP9N++y4Ed1Zvs3fijbEkauwFo8STRnk9w1ceSHIVu7W4gxhK1wDgNgv Dc/xk6v7dhrdOk5XYeA7dL8G7+Bz3sxwi2mYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CsMrIS58CPZRV5L3Isqtc/cWQYQug/xfA85pz67hcUSUEAkzMDlMHhsxXuK9JEK1oR TO11EBgd6ZWE9k7yrsuXPlKIZNojw4Xox+TLOw4T2Ya61Q7jzhjJuxEqvzdtljnoF+Nt ieeYZLNwYRMf6noaexiWKy/RI1B0hsPVmQlVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.171.211 with SMTP id i19mr2308696vcz.252.1282479654822; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.114.134 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:20:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:20:54 +0300 Message-ID: From: Omer Faruk SEN To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Fwd: Hast + ZFS + Postgresql on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:20:55 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Omer Faruk SEN Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:57 PM Subject: Hast + ZFS + Postgresql on FreeBSD 8.1 To: FreeBSD Hi, Is there any one here in this list tried this combo on FreeBSD 8.1 ? I really would like to know your opinions about that. Especially I am concerned on how to keep consistency of database =A0and recovery procedures in the event of failure (I mean pgsql recovery or any) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 12:38:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB46910656A4 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E758FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5221905vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DASuAs/f5OO4h8V/1nUlhc4GGYRm6Syjfg10dFoTMgQ=; b=QSKCQnqx3C/9HEaO5osGy5EWC08xGig3c5SS8VXC8apCVoRFEaCadpKBOb9LvwoFNm wkGyrA7v5pFZKXlGBMXN/niafM6iPwi0CDvOzOGW9miSXtSMO9EYsUsvmGGkWAMuTv8e lotlhop97HYiqsadnseSgfbrDXKoLUI2wH3Zg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aT4dm5j7L3Noa3ObiZwrWuMVEytnHbtpvWKfpOokN6YIV8hY2I9SKNynw217v727AG 41n09cRZH2HNVoypzpIIKfxXEKmt/BmgS/ms9IHf7EY1tGnjZ/BXryCRUrUOSKw8JbDw OPHkGT/YJjCMwAZD8EaZXR/qKy3+sp1IUHyYg= Received: by 10.220.157.136 with SMTP id b8mr2383560vcx.214.1282480703465; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (75.97.128.170.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [75.97.128.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm2878269vbb.13.2010.08.22.05.38.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C711A3C.9090504@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:38:20 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jhell References: <4C6C8E2B.5090500@gmail.com> <4C6CE8EB.6080701@gmail.com> <4C6D0205.9080708@gmail.com> <4C70CF65.6010008@DataIX.net> In-Reply-To: <4C70CF65.6010008@DataIX.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:38:24 -0000 On 8/22/10 3:19 AM, jhell wrote: > On 08/19/2010 06:05, Glen Barber wrote: >> On 8/19/10 4:18 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: >>> So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the >>> server machine? >> >> I can - I would prefer not to. >> > > Compile a static version of ircII and run it from the object directory > without installing it. > Hi, An off-list reply suggested I look at irc/eggdrop, which is doing what I want. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 12:49:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08341065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F018FC22 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5226825vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:49:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=USwmAMpKwrK/l6ffAGvm9q3OQe4su0b0sKtvLaOJkM8=; b=tLYvA83t7sPyv41GapnDGYAwPgyHumhFkPhOsrBPPWwx/QK+uwi/y6jCUMHA4CV/vc YUxW3FJy5wAijxPn17UoOArvTXpBd9f/tdwwQGTq8XG3RBjrCYXfTw09Ie6IrMDVkvvg jHhn2tAt+W4jDnLY+obZxqty2ynx9d8R0iX+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sGuTLvDhhum61BC890opx3gPrF27n1PR6sO4oIYhZ1ZzTA62MXWgrxAC/8q0AeSRNa uOCFJQ/qsDKuQd3PMThaIH93YEHApB9XdWtL/d2OyalrONKngmJhzrKcxM6MeAvv5GSW 2YGICzHIrtFwZsKxD6Xfy6pIAA2BTKR54efNs= Received: by 10.220.88.30 with SMTP id y30mr2296560vcl.239.1282481391713; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (75.97.128.170.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [75.97.128.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5sm2881970vbe.7.2010.08.22.05.49.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C711CED.6090305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:49:49 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ZFS & jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:49:53 -0000 On 8/21/10 11:57 PM, Joe wrote: > I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except > booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use > for a jail directory tree. > > Is this possible? Yep. # zfs create -o quota=1G tank/usr/jail Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 13:44:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4FC1065695 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2A68FC1D for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:44:42 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,251,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="947546474" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 09:44:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjpOAPbGcExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACEEoNWizQBAY0UDAEBAQE1LbgthTcE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,251,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="156014899" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 09:44:41 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:44:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008220944.31080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: New bwn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:44:43 -0000 I have an HP pavilion zd825us which has a Broadcom ethernet that appears to be supported by the new bwn driver. I have, for several years now, been using the NDIS driver based on Project Evil. Since bwn came out in 8.1, I tried it and it pretty much works but I get a couple errors sporadically. Here are the dmesgs: Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: siba_bwn0: mem 0xc8206000-0xc8207fff irq 17 at device 3.0 on pci11 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0 on siba_bwn0 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4318 rev 9) PHY (analog 3 type 2 rev 7) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2050 rev 8) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: DMA (32 bits) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: [FILTER] Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: firmware version (rev 410 patch 2160 date 0x751a time 0x7c0a) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: need multicast update callback Aug 20 17:01:37 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: RX decryption attempted (old 0 keyidx 0x2) Occasionally, a message appears on the console indicating that mDNSResponder had an issue: Aug 20 19:45:42 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSPlatformSendUDP got error 51 (Network is unreachable) sending packet to 224.0.0.251 on interface 127.0.0.1/lo0/2 Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder (Engineering Build) (Aug 4 2010 09:50:01) starting And when I use the NDIS driver, I see this lock not held... Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNS_AddDNSServer: Lock not held! mDNS_busy (0) mDNS_reentrancy (0) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 14:04:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38051065697 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6FC8FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so421302ywt.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.20 with SMTP id h20mr3965643anc.136.1282485861407; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t24sm8777229ano.12.2010.08.22.07.04.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75769E54856 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:04:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:04:17 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100822100417.7a3e5170@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:04:22 -0000 On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block articulated: > Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else > will have to comment on those. I came to this party late, so please excuse me if this has been discussed. 1) Ha the user installed the latest nVidia driver from ports: Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering And it accompanying utilities: Port: nvidia-settings-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings Info: Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver Port: nvidia-xconfig-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig Info: Tool to manipulate X configuration files for the NVidia driver And installed a line in the /boot/loader.conf file for this driver: nvidia_load="YES" # nVidia video driver 2) After doing the above, if not done previously, reboot the system. 3) Move to the "/etc/X11" directory and run as root: nvidia-xconfig" The "man nvidia-xconfig" file will supply all the details. You really should not run it with any command line arguments the first time. 4) Now start 'xorg" and run as root: "nvidia-settings". That should complete the process. You may have to reload 'xorg' for all settings to take affect. Please see "man nvidia-settings" for full details. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ 40 isn't old, if you are a tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 14:14:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60011065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DCF8FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-88-103.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.88.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A3855F11; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:14:58 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20100822151458.000044c9@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100819201700.GC33689@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100819201700.GC33689@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: EforeZZ , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to restore a text file from UFS?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:14:46 -0000 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:17:00 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > For future reference; you should never edit files in /etc/ directly. > If you want ot edit files in /etc or /usr/local/etc, first copy them > to a directory in your $HOME, put them under revision control and > then edit them and copy the edited files to /etc. That way you always > have a backup and you can even restore previous versions. I've > documented the procedure I use on my webpage; > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/configfiles.html This failure, where files are truncated to 0 bytes after an unclean shutdown isn't the same way ext4 was truncating files when using editors which overwrite files in-place (as opposed to writing to a temporary file then renaming) is it? Does calling fsync on FreeBSD not ensure that even with SoftUpdates the data is on the disk before the editor has exited? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 14:29:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A50B1065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30F3D8FC1A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19651 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:29:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 14:29:39 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pD+3Y+gQyzqG for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:29:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 19623 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:29:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 14:29:38 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C71318C.2AA5F140@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:17:48 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822075157.GA1485@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:29:40 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:41:49PM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Warren Block wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > > > > > > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > > > > > First notes: > > > > > > You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. > > > > > > Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > > huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the > > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > > > > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > > everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on > > adding fonts. > > > > While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of > > nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install > > them now or wait. > > > > For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: > > "make install" or "make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver" ? > > Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. > This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should > be proposed. > > -- > Marc I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers could be selected. Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinstall program when FBSD is initially being installed. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 14:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E08B1065693 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EA8A8FC1E for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23684 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iQ50ArO-qvj1 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:31:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23658 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:31:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 14:31:27 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C7131FA.E9C7EC15@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:19:38 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> <201008221255.55485.tijl@coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:31:30 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Eitan Adler wrote: > >>> The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely > >>> black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected > >>> grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window > >>> manager. > >> > >> Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black > >> screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? > > > > The .xinitrc file: > > xrdb > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > exec fvwm > > > > I have also tried twm. > > This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. > > Check if you actually have those programs installed. If not, you need > to install these ports: x11/xrdb, x11/xsetroot, x11/xterm, x11/xconsole, > x11-wm/fvwm. > Those programs are actually installed. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 14:54:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5A51065673 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 813728FC0A for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10190 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:54:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 14:54:25 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SsKY76lma7cj for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:54:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 10174 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 14:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 14:54:24 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C71375B.57F22626@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:42:35 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822100417.7a3e5170@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:54:26 -0000 Jerry wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block articulated: > > > Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else > > will have to comment on those. > > I came to this party late, so please excuse me if this has been > discussed. > > 1) Ha the user installed the latest nVidia driver from ports: > > Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver > Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering > > And it accompanying utilities: > > Port: nvidia-settings-195.36.31 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings > Info: Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver > > Port: nvidia-xconfig-195.36.31 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig > Info: Tool to manipulate X configuration files for the NVidia driver > > And installed a line in the /boot/loader.conf file for this driver: > > nvidia_load="YES" # nVidia video driver > > 2) After doing the above, if not done previously, reboot the > system. > > 3) Move to the "/etc/X11" directory and run as root: nvidia-xconfig" > The "man nvidia-xconfig" file will supply all the details. You really > should not run it with any command line arguments the first time. > > 4) Now start 'xorg" and run as root: "nvidia-settings". That should > complete the process. You may have to reload 'xorg' for all settings to > take affect. Please see "man nvidia-settings" for full details. > > -- > Jerry â?? > FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ > > 40 isn't old, if you are a tree. > _______________________________________________ Hi Jerry, I do not have the driver you suggest on the CD. I have: nividia-driver nividia-driver-173 nividia-driver-71 nividia-driver-96 Which should be used? I was not able to find the version you mentioned with the freebsd website ports search function. Since Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro works then I think the default vesa driver should work until the other problems are sorted out. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 15:44:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B951210656A9 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341D68FC1F for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7MFinVB083000; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:44:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 183B7BAA0; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:44:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:44:49 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20100822154448.GA45979@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100819201700.GC33689@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100822151458.000044c9@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100822151458.000044c9@unknown> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: EforeZZ , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to restore a text file from UFS?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:44:53 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 03:14:58PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:17:00 +0200 > Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > For future reference; you should never edit files in /etc/ directly. > > If you want ot edit files in /etc or /usr/local/etc, first copy them > > to a directory in your $HOME, put them under revision control and > > then edit them and copy the edited files to /etc. That way you always > > have a backup and you can even restore previous versions. I've > > documented the procedure I use on my webpage; > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/configfiles.html >=20 > This failure, where files are truncated to 0 bytes after an unclean > shutdown isn't the same way ext4 was truncating files when using editors > which overwrite files in-place (as opposed to writing to a temporary > file then renaming) is it? =20 It could be a use of ftruncate(2) on FreeBSD as well. As to ext4, I don't k= now. > Does calling fsync on FreeBSD not ensure that even with SoftUpdates the d= ata > is on the disk before the editor has exited? I think so, to the extent that FreeBSD is able. Disks usually cache writes internally, so if the system crashes before that cache is flushed, you'll l= ose data. You can disable the write cache for ad(4) by setting the sysctl hw.ata.wc to 0 at boot time, but this will impact performance. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxxRfAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUNugCfSKOe8UA4hVsxBEMmyedDvt2v ZA4AoJG7LCBbbgXj41cF2loQTx9A3gjv =ZpJ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 16:37:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD7B1065693 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1728FC12 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xT371e0021smiN4A6UdCdC; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:12 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xUdA1e00H46zqiB8gUdBRd; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4C715236.3090405@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:37:10 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: msmtp/comcast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:13 -0000 Anyone using msmtp with Comcast? I have in the past used this in conjunction with Mutt, but can't get it to work now. Here is my .msmtprc: account default host smtp.comcast.net from auth on user password port 587 When I try to send from Mutt I get this error message: msmtp: cannot use a secure authentication method msmtp: could not send mail (account default from /home/rem/.msmtprc As I say, I have in the past used this setup with Comcast and it worked fine. ---Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 16:45:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDCA10656A3 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797B48FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:45:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAGbtcEyWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAH2TqFNwSEMw Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Aug 2010 02:00:18 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <23BA961B74BA2B5CA8B523F9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <23BA961B74BA2B5CA8B523F9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:00:14 +0930 Message-ID: <1282494614.58781.15759.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Any awk gurus on the list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:45:37 -0000 On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:12 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to use awk to parse values from a string of > unknown length and unknown fields using awk, from within a shell script, and > write those values to a file in a certain order. > > Here's a typical string that I want to parse: > > alert ip > [50.0.0.0/8,100.0.0.0/6,104.0.0.0/5,112.0.0.0/6,173.0.0.0/8,174.0.0.0/7,176.0.0.0/5,184.0.0.0/6] > any -> $HOME_NET any (msg:"ET POLICY Reserved IP Space Traffic - Bogon Nets 2"; > classtype:bad-unknown; reference:url,www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html; > threshold: type limit, track by_src, count 1, seconds 360; sid:2002750; rev:10;) > > What I want to do is extract the value after "sid:", the value after > "reference:" and the value after "msg:" and insert them into a file that would > look like this: > > 2002750 || "ET POLICY Reserved IP Space Traffic - Bogon Nets 2" || > url,www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html Probably not a complete solution for your problem domain but you might glean an idea or two from this: awk 'BEGIN {FS="\\(|; *"} /#/ {next} {for(i=1;i<=NF;i++) print $i}' mtc.rules.test | awk 'BEGIN {FS=":" ; OFS=" || "} $1 == "sid" {sid=$2} $1 == "msg" {msg=$2} $1 == "reference" {ref=$2} $1 == ")" {print sid,msg,ref}' > Yes, I know I could do this easily in Perl. I'm doing this to try and improve > my understanding of awk. I *think* I've figured out that the right approach is > to use an associative array, and this command: No need for an array unless you want to retain the records for later processing. For simple record-by-record processing scalar vars suffice. > # awk '!/#/ { for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) { if ( $i ~ /sid/) {mtcmsg[sid]=$i; print > mtcmsg[sid]}}}' < /usr/local/etc/snort/rules/mtc.rules.test A couple of things to note: $i ~ /sid/ : will match the string "sid" anywhere within the field - either use ~ /^sid$/ or == "sid" for exact matching mtcmsg[sid] : references the scalar var named "sid" (which is empty => mtcmsg[""]) Of course, if you choose to you can also just execute some run-of-the-mill regex matches and string manipulations in awk: awk '!/#/ {s1=match($0, "sid:[^;]*"); if (s1) sid=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-4); s2=match($0, "msg:[^;]*"); if (s2) msg=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-4); s3=match($0, "reference:[^;]*"); if (s3) ref=substr($0, RSTART+10, RLENGTH-10); if (s1*s2*s3) print sid" || "msg" || "ref}' mtc.rules.test but that lacks any real awk-ness. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 16:52:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9431065695 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BDD8FC08 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so5609522iwn.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:52:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7LxmrR57ecDZrC55LB0WwfmNxetKs7ZzsGfP4jotGME=; b=wohATKsylt9+lVs9AmfJnmBnplhgW2kKKiGL+juoiaMN6OSOnsK6+enUGFm94at0Pl 1YW1WdV9+jDqOFl3rYwWpCN5dzgrC8UNHfj2JGdb+hznl9mMka2xJ5UCDxHJfj99qYCe N40WolFC2kNO1fjLFM6bnxLZZiDBEjuAh9vZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cJy4wqm2gjnmbSI0Ljxo4xv35jkgkV1HqpV0COmkBzC6jP/k1i4TsKMM14aX+DLvGa ulX5jwqHuYIbwBVHQrIUetb9VljdyqCe/QtBLZ+2nbkBPmA+05Ls7ersuyu+JSI5wkgT iYc4dGNUzu7++snd/ceNgCeOWoCdE1t27vBWg= Received: by 10.231.167.196 with SMTP id r4mr5305883iby.29.1282495925933; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm5141337iba.18.2010.08.22.09.52.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C7155B4.9070309@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:52:04 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: zpool bootfs property X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:52:07 -0000 I was just able to change my zfs boot pool to raid0 by resetting the bootfs property, adding the slice, and setting it back. I was able to find a webpage talking about importing FreeBSD zfs pools into opensolaris and having problems with disk management because of the bootfs property. With the property set, `zpool add ...` prints out "root pool can not have multiple vdevs or separate logs" which confused me because of FreeBSD supporting booting from raidz drives. So now I wonder, is the bootfs property needed in FreeBSD? If it needs set for at least booting, then will having it set cause headaches when working with a raidz pool and a failed drive? And should the wiki be updated? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 16:57:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D9D1065693 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36CB8FC17 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so2144949yxe.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.7.17 with SMTP id 17mr4280213ang.21.1282496276952; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a12sm9015808and.36.2010.08.22.09.57.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67E50E54856 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:57:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:57:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100822125753.255daaa7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C71375B.57F22626@blakemfg.com> References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822100417.7a3e5170@scorpio> <4C71375B.57F22626@blakemfg.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:57:58 -0000 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:42:35 -0700 Fred Boatwright articulated: > Hi Jerry, > I do not have the driver you suggest on the CD. I have: > nividia-driver > nividia-driver-173 > nividia-driver-71 > nividia-driver-96 > Which should be used? I was not able to find the version you > mentioned with the freebsd website ports search function First, update your ports tree. This is what you are looking for: Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering Al;l of the relevant paths, etc. were in the first post I sent regarding this matter. The "173" and other drivers are deprecated and should probably be avoided. If you have one of them installed, do a "make_deinstall -dfv nvidia*" first before attempting to install the new drive and utilities. If you are still experiencing problems, post back. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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Napoleon Bonaparte, "Maxims" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 17:07:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB951065672 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@xroff.net) Received: from xroff.net (xroff.net [200.46.208.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D82B8FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.204.251]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDBB4FCDC6 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xroff.net ([200.46.208.231]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84617-09 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (83.173.189.34.dyn.user.ono.com [83.173.189.34]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CB89D4FCDC4 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 9.0.851 [271.1.1/3083]); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:07:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:07:25 +0200 From: Eduardo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100822190725.00001c64@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HPC under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:07:30 -0000 Hello: Is the freebsd-hpc list the correct one to discuss about hpc? It appears to be disabled. Or are freebsd-cluster, freebsd-performance? Who do i talk to create a directory in ports with all HPC software for FreeBSD? Can it be done using a directory with links to the real category? Who can point me on the HPC status? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 17:19:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F06F10656A5 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDDD8FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:19:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsFALb3cExbsT74/2dsb2JhbACTII0Ucrd6hTcE Received: from 248.62-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.177.62.248]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2010 19:19:45 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7MHJiUD066378; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:19:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:19:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; i386; ; ) References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1622779.Npx6Ua1TP5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008221919.43610.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: Fred Boatwright Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:19:47 -0000 --nextPart1622779.Npx6Ua1TP5 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > The .xinitrc file: > xrdb > xsetroot -solid gray & > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > exec fvwm Is this file executable? --nextPart1622779.Npx6Ua1TP5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iF4EABEIAAYFAkxxXC8ACgkQfoCS2CCgtit2NAD+IRRKPjQtUYefJfthw2c5V0IP q+xTnyjMDuhpvltl4XIA/3B2ZVGoyQyhWagHtMndl62vPWn74O9Yy6v/4Z9XJmbI =ol1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1622779.Npx6Ua1TP5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 18:18:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E501065670 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A2E8FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-88-103.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.88.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B44A35F11; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:17:51 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Eduardo Message-ID: <20100822191751.00001ae7@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100822190725.00001c64@unknown> References: <20100822190725.00001c64@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HPC under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:18:00 -0000 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:07:25 +0200 Eduardo wrote: > Who can point me on the HPC status? Brooks Davis (brooks at freebsd.org) gave a talk at EuroBSDCon (http://www.ukuug.org/events/eurobsdcon2009/talks/) and AsiaBSDCon recently about porting HPC tools to FreeBSD, so you might want to talk to him to learn more. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 18:35:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA131065695 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97D58FC14 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so5074481qwg.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=d2ENgfZRYVFCsxqB0U5SxqsK1mLldeCjrr3hCk0IYCU=; b=C9PmFPyzZZR6yZsmWxkQ0TNsE9H6XaSEV7o+n0H25aK3ZYiuPDU+P5ra5pXriTs55V b7+WkI8cWSx4yNsMtNgzeV7TSBTVxNawCwqIuDA0LQICi7+DtfM9lLURKyvhpe0mk/pQ 15vuP7wA6SIIa3QlCDRA50rjsjOJ9mMydqpTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=B9eblYEOb4PLqpUaZZZIcwV2+bEUVoyDyF8wfomBEBwUDEDuxv5g8dN7eKzHfmsJGB 69221cW9VTAW7bwHrYkGulfnx7YvimWcQkoW9AyiFtk/bpzKnmQgZyKOOE3gLIwaE+6C gW31uo/d8IGj/poC2+RPdI8NeIoc4gbG2hyK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.2.19 with SMTP id 19mr1502443qch.283.1282502122882; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.70 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:35:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C711CED.6090305@gmail.com> References: <4C70A018.7030509@comclark.com> <4C711CED.6090305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:35:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS & jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:35:24 -0000 On 22 August 2010 13:49, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/21/10 11:57 PM, Joe wrote: > > I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except > > booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use > > for a jail directory tree. > > > > Is this possible? > > Yep. > > # zfs create -o quota=1G tank/usr/jail > > Regards, > > -- > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you might want the reserve as well From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 19:40:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEBB1065696 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26878FC16 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7MJem2L004049; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:40:48 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7MJelQk004045; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:40:47 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3390F33C3D; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:40:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:40:47 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Tijl Coosemans Message-ID: <20100822194047.GA98336@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> <201008221919.43610.tijl@coosemans.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201008221919.43610.tijl@coosemans.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Fred Boatwright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:40:57 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > > The .xinitrc file: > > xrdb > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > exec fvwm > > Is this file executable? It doesn't have to be executable but xrdb needs arguments or it just waits for input. My suggestion to Fred: drop the xrdb line in his ~/.xinitrc Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 20:08:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF1E1065696 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A1A68FC1B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26045 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 20:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2010 20:08:58 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rr7skGhzeOrY for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:08:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 26025 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2010 20:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2010 20:08:57 -0000 Sender: fred Message-ID: <4C718115.B39BBB61@blakemfg.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:57:09 -0700 From: Fred Boatwright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com> <201008221919.43610.tijl@coosemans.org> <20100822194047.GA98336@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:08:59 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > > On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > The .xinitrc file: > > > xrdb > > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > > exec fvwm > > > > Is this file executable? > > It doesn't have to be executable but xrdb needs arguments or it just > waits for input. > > My suggestion to Fred: drop the xrdb line in his ~/.xinitrc > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html Well, some progress has been made! The .xinitrc file is not executable. I found the file on my Sun running Solaris 2.6. That file also does not have execute permissions but it has #!/bin/sh at the beginning. However, that doesn't appear to be needed under FBSD. I tried an empty .Xresources file but that didn't make any difference. Commenting out the xrdb does allow the window manager to start. The .xinitrc file was generated from an example in the man page for xinit, not the Handbook as I earlier stated. So, I can move forward again. Thank you very much for the help. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 20:29:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006E61065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B2F8FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7MKTh7N063551; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:42 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20100822202942.GB32780@thought.org> References: <20100820213828.GB71642@thought.org> <20100821000740.GB72182@thought.org> <4C6FBA80.6050103@gmail.com> <20100821231317.GA52873@thought.org> <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:49 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > >>On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can "click-over" > > > >>>to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server > > > >>>[ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really > > > >>>cannot do much on ethic. > > > >>> > > > >>>i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. > > > >>>that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) > > > >>>working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me > > > >>>with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because > > > >>>of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around > > > >>>under there (&c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me > > > >>>to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types > > > >>>who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. > > > >>> > > > >>/usr/ports/sysutils/synergy > > > >> > > > > > > > > this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it > > > > depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. ..... > > > > > > > > > > ssh? > > > > > > > sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS > > set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via > > ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get > > ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. > > You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need > to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X > installed on the server? > > Why would you need X to "properly upgrade things?" The upgrading of both the > OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can > make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell > to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. > > If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you > have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use > the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh > can also do X forwarding. no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. the machine is a 2009 dell 550 inspiron. i do not want to do too much with X so as to avoid some kind of crash that will break everything. still, it would be nice to have X for /root and for the UPS. the server and telco "modem" is my connection to the outside world so i don't want to take too many risks. but now that everything is up to date [port-wise], now what? gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 21:42:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290151065694 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961C88FC0C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7MLgr2a022032; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:42:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2FC5BAB0; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:42:53 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100822214253.GA7786@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100820213828.GB71642@thought.org> <20100821000740.GB72182@thought.org> <4C6FBA80.6050103@gmail.com> <20100821231317.GA52873@thought.org> <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100822202942.GB32780@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100822202942.GB32780@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:42:57 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 01:29:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > no X11, but i do need it. >=20 > is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely?=20 I don't think you have to. You just have to tell the X programs you want to run on the server to connect to the X server on the machine you're working on. Read the following HOWTO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html Suppose you are working on a machine called "desktop.thought.org", and the server is "server.thought.org". You have to set up the X server on desktop.thought.org to accept remote connections using xhost(1) or xauth(1). You have to configure your firewall on desktop of allow connectio= ns on tcp/udp ports 6000-6063 from server.thought.org through. Then you should be able to login to the server via ssh, and start e.g. an X terminal on the display of the desktop by giving the following command in t= he ssh session: xterm -display desktop.thought.org:0 & You could also set the DISPLAY variable on server.thought.org to point to desktop.thought.org:0. That way you don't have to start every X program with the -display argument. > i managed > to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking > anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and=20 > More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb > -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. AFAIK, you don't need the drivers to do X forwarding. But you _do_ need the X11 libraries and header files to compile X programs. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxxmd0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUhqACeOCgA++6VIiYFMfqDuEAXKInd oSAAn1tq09tsVCyxlfPQF9fb1rvwHSDB =4c4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 00:12:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB9D1065674 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D4D8FC1E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xalk1e0081ZMdJ4A2cCAFq; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:10 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xcC81e00D46zqiB8ccCAi1; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:10 +0000 Message-ID: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:12:08 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:11 -0000 I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on getting wireless operating on this laptop? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 00:52:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59871065670 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tbcrew@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622BF8FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so7321955wyj.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:52:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle :x-cr-puzzleid; bh=jEDJjZ+Mub16p3EoYMtnDmhsy4IQvGuzNzmp69Frrqs=; b=NHYc9BMiNQdF04gbLt3c5CmpIKEEITSMK07gf44Gs8ePAYKYXLe+IV6DoafsHNZoxG hkEK3IMvpzXq2gdQ6vqS/W3MtNEtn1IlL0VpT4D5cLvXkUFWFWM61jM6keJRetCFmPe0 G0Bfhu1uPfzqSdRc/8PegBrY4NXvcV7GrDaWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=G5kOdUIRYFK3/0Tv72YVr/dKRKTBNsZjqx1FywbFprmrqM7Owize5BB+C/31T4QWHs jA65cz+aFqCwP3NGDqmKECu++PcMB53aS75S2EApiGaY+Qf1WbisgBH/JtejmUQJK5Pt Y4IU/QEb6+KuisIxOFJxE6Whq2NnjfMpJCvuA= Received: by 10.216.6.149 with SMTP id 21mr1890637wen.101.1282523327837; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mine (i-195-137-12-155.freedom2surf.net [195.137.12.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v16sm3273478weq.8.2010.08.22.17.28.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Garry" To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:25:34 +0100 Message-ID: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActCWXS/y9wWvpl4QsK/2WqHNoegFw== Content-Language: en-gb x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Jqc= AKPh AUyf Aqeq BdBn B+Hv CV0f DJ5W DVmi DtSI F71M GZnV Gj/M HM0m HYTr Ijln; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {F86D80C0-D81F-4DC8-A156-FB62466497BE}; dABiAGMAcgBlAHcAQABnAG0AYQBpAGwALgBjAG8AbQA=; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:23:48 GMT; SQBzACAAdABoAGkAcwAgAGIAdQBuAGsALgA= x-cr-puzzleid: {F86D80C0-D81F-4DC8-A156-FB62466497BE} Cc: Subject: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:34 -0000 This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 01:06:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4FD1065696 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CD48FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xcVn1e0091vN32cA6d6EvF; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:06:14 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([70.89.198.73]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xd6B1e00A1bWFVA8id6DyS; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:06:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:06:11 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8E3B8CE9-4CFB-4573-B69F-2BAA3374EED2@cwis.biz> References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> To: Garry X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:06:15 -0000 OS X is based on Darwin which was, as I understand it, inspired by BSD = but not specifically FreeBSD; most like was Net or OpenBSD. But, you can say the same about Windows, Mac OS and X11 because they = were all inspired by Xerox PARC... Or a brand of tires because they look a lot like another brand, on the = inside of the tire. On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or = deny this > as twaddle. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor = lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't = get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. >=20 > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. >=20 > So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code = for it, > or filing bugs or whatever. > (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, = as > well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE = etc...) >=20 > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly = tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can = support > software developed under such licenses. >=20 >=20 > Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though = Apple > done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. > So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the = BSD > license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most > significantly Apple. >=20 > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of = the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 01:36:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D089F10656A8 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rogerk@queernet.org) Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [209.237.247.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC708FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Roger-Kloreses-iMac.local (c-76-104-131-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [76.104.131.7]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659B717AFC86; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71C9F6.2090403@queernet.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:08:06 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garry References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:36:00 -0000 It's a lot like complaining that your bull is counterproductive because it isn't a cow and therefore won't yield milk. If one's definition of "productive" is "expands the amount of software in the universe that is non-proprietary," then perhaps the BSD license is "non-productive" -- but that was never its goal. The license serves to improve the amount of reusable software in the universe -- and in doing so, the quality of that code -- and in the process, the idea that entities could leverage it to build proprietary extensions is in the mix. Many companies have built products with proprietary components using BSD-licensed baselines. Rather than start from scratch, they ended up with products that were less expensive and higher-quality. For many of these companies, religious compliance to software liberation is not a pill they would consider swallowing. On 8/22/10 5:25 PM, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this > as twaddle. > > > > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. > > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. > > So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, > or filing bugs or whatever. > (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as > well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) > > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support > software developed under such licenses. > > > Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple > done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. > So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD > license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most > significantly Apple. > > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 02:47:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC561065696 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F578FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 7so5633740vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w4DBHXXBqE+iswvskhe4lgCsGVZS1tvlb3WtmCFduEs=; b=Jmv0efcsJc0usj5P6idDN1Fd/sNuyH+Lgmk/GkLeqYYfZoapA54LCNyj/tW1pAaekQ J3kmEYCMc1N+z7rPkFwltAFwiYhgTeBjGLYJo+SnAPyOVy8wWEpo3cBu/dGyVh8K6zTk Ix+Xq10+A8sDB1nDoAsn94RWd5Pdf3wG2506g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KL4CEaCIGRbKPLv+b77DqY1kfkHDk8YPpeGObLJTwMvRqKuH9FO7sWiiQUdyzMSFKy /YkojBm9n0bXdT7D7fkR2xhIVEBuugOZmXnHAfTUtafYUSo2ciRxhMmHDOBCmaZJ+9+w red5xK6pN83AjxDQen7mpguZxIoAGYRkITFRk= Received: by 10.220.62.72 with SMTP id w8mr2669361vch.200.1282531652729; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm3194121vbb.3.2010.08.22.19.47.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:47:29 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:47:33 -0000 On 8/22/10 8:12 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 > Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different > combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless > working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on > getting wireless operating on this laptop? > Hi Rem, First off, do you know what wireless chipset you have? You can find out using: pciconf -lv though without knowing what manufacturer, I can't quite say what to look for. As far as the settings, have a look at this section of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the following in rc.conf: wlans_ath0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP" Maybe you can put the output of the pciconf command I referenced earlier on pastebin - I think that might help us get you in the right direction faster. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 02:49:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5D81065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4FB8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5635037vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:49:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PRyNcuvZ8B8HoGswFV8I5vEtbHbp8/YHN3RJ6O/tbLo=; b=ivhacvIDsYjrsUil/gitQW9eg8pPTukbWnnN9hjDiVr+7S0eaDwiVJpn6qY4Luq9kq fx0HQwpfAAQpi8v9fu2RhQH86+ySTK6WVD62mTtv18JmedS6vsaKxQa+GMR2VpeyCDMH oXdQvC6FhLfkgpsxfKY7CE/J6SRD+cefoUs2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JnSZrx7YlYRriWUQK4fe4hkLC5T5Q+bE+AGRNiz8KBH5c9xsegOsAqkqzs74hB4F0G AkXFjzOyOVraOxtP75eo+K0Ljw+gIJABWrAbHesUAYvZG1b+plbYB8vdEGN1V8sCmg/+ S+CQo8xqb+8FY2epBbFF8jSXcZbnMQGx0MaxY= Received: by 10.220.59.202 with SMTP id m10mr2769710vch.196.1282531757035; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5sm3194031vbe.17.2010.08.22.19.49.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71E1AA.70902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:49:14 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:49:18 -0000 On 8/22/10 10:47 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - > pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: > > ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" > > where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the > following in rc.conf: Of course, iwn0 is a typo... :) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:00:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C583106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406128FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xcL41e0011bwxycA4f0sCn; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:00:52 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xf0q1e00B46zqiB8ef0rnp; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:00:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:00:50 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:00:53 -0000 > On 8/22/10 8:12 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 >> Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different >> combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless >> working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on >> getting wireless operating on this laptop? >> > Hi Rem, > > First off, do you know what wireless chipset you have? You can find out > using: > > pciconf -lv > > though without knowing what manufacturer, I can't quite say what to look > for. As far as the settings, have a look at this section of the handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html > > particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - > pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: > > ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" > > where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the > following in rc.conf: > > wlans_ath0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP" > > > Maybe you can put the output of the pciconf command I referenced earlier > on pastebin - I think that might help us get you in the right direction > faster. > > Regards, > Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Cheers... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:03:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA9E1065670 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@dusk.parklogic.com) Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31DB28FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32081 invoked by uid 511); 23 Aug 2010 00:31:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20100823003140.32080.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> From: "jhell" To: "Glen Barber" In-Reply-To: 4C711A3C.9090504@gmail.com References: 4C6C8E2B.5090500@gmail.com 4C6CE8EB.6080701@gmail.com 4C6D0205.9080708@gmail.com 4C70CF65.6010008@DataIX.net 4C711A3C.9090504@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:31:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="1282523500.Ba17AfBc0.31947"; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? 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Regards, Webmaster References 1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:14:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6545D1065696 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC018FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5648349vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:14:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RV0t3sPw1VjYSf5Bhh9anm3p4qhggVmApT101Pl8034=; b=m0XXib5JO0qi0ens92xIq4ewpvwW4Mv8s1t7yC2fz2+pBK7ThwgtmYAJ1A4XUZ5QDm 2BeiqFWsXUQhliC9Sk0wFRgesyeV099oFqRFYxCWmvTBKfvM2vbITdL0F4PZoEKIIe6g iNzsyni4b1kpegrQS3CoNSeFU7E+ymZIAVCZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=by9tfN0Wl3hCpnR5pD0j1IxuzEVPqr+PAVKG5rlMk3TGgi644txp3zZq5V4Yl9mmNK IsbZWHbSS9sS2ntH+bAt9WqN0mg3A94gznBZNIxcEKpBT0XP1yNn9vQiXthSTzdfVdXv K7TByxz+YTO2koSycofoQ2Pp+4eA+1w+qlygc= Received: by 10.220.98.140 with SMTP id q12mr2850569vcn.128.1282533292089; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w31sm3204299vbs.15.2010.08.22.20.14.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:14:49 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:14:53 -0000 On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section > on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient > Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless > pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned > from pciconf -lv shows: > > device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' > Perfect. Is "220BG" a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' >> /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your Presario. Hope this helps. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:17:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCAA1065698 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from ant.hiwaay.net (ant.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35228FC1C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.9] (dynamic-24-42-224-110.knology.net [24.42.224.110] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by ant.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7N3HiAb878178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:17:45 -0500 (CDT) References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Kelly Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:17:46 -0500 To: "Garry" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:17:47 -0000 On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or = deny this > as twaddle. >=20 > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor = lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't = get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple hired a lot of key people from the FreeBSD project. I don't know = just what comes back to FreeBSD out of Apple but suspect the reason you = and myself don't know is that Apple doesn't care to toot their own horn. = Apple made a significant contribution a while back testing and improving = NFS. As for how much of MacOS X is BSD, pretty much all of the command line = stuff. Apple has gone to great lengths to XML-ize most everything so = while MacOS is BSD, its probably the most distant BSD cousin. > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. NT 3.51 used to flash a Berkeley Software Distribution copyright message = on the text console during boot because some code was used. Doubt MS = could leave well enough alone to simply lift the entire stack. The = VMS-inspired NT kernel was probably not organized in such a way as to = optimally use an unmodified BSD network protocol stack. > So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code = for it, > or filing bugs or whatever. > (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, = as > well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE = etc...) >=20 > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly = tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can = support > software developed under such licenses. So why are you here? Trolling? It bugs the heck out of some people when others manage to build on their = work to make something better, and then not give it away to everyone = else. Others realize that if what we do is truly useful then others will = want to use it to build bigger and better things. That it doesn't matter = if we sell our work or give it away, what others do with it is no skin = off our noses. Our original work is still exactly as accessible as it = was before others made something more of their own version of it. > Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though = Apple > done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. > So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the = BSD > license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most > significantly Apple. Thats one of the big problems of the GPL-mindset. Seems they spend a = whole lot more time cloning the work of others than in actually creating = anything new. > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of = the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. There is nothing in the BSD license permitting a "hostile takeover." = Some would claim FreeBSD has executed a "hostile takeover" of what it is = to be BSD. The pre-FreeBSD code is out there, you are welcome to it. = Some would say OpenBSD attempted a hostile takeover of BSD. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:22:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E3A106564A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592EB8FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3108917fxm.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HuIpu00+3zstk/nlZaqp+hnAkPKRsl6WMRyHWPOg0YM=; b=sLR7ffU59j4pufzv8jOkL/nkPbZGBAnp6zJenoNcGIDHlnloEt++NCn93CdfaBCoW9 dcaKmAexWgqyu9xXGgtBItkKHawqLEeLL8mvWTzwx7NqGC6L7f/HW2u/wh/q2AH5o+Pr RyXICObJ1Xhi5CEWldJn6caAaLlXnJ5ICxKDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g7cXh/GlDsurvhmq96JnPHEkraSXoisoYdDmZsSSpLxajZCeVrYNlPVNr4dx2hVogx Bv5Qbh65uIDtIyOdHX9bgt6/uF3+7YcdrG7Mcvc4DIldhTl5cbfiitKpDMH0/MPzFZ+P Q6HWLo76TqX4AD29lDQpUtuD6g+FWAZz3TkNE= Received: by 10.239.135.2 with SMTP id b2mr210616hbb.21.1282533738167; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:22:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.70 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:21:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> From: Rob Byrnes Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:21:58 +1000 Message-ID: To: Rem P Roberti , FreeBSD , Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:22:19 -0000 On 23 August 2010 13:14, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> >> Thanks for your help so far. =A0Yes, I have looked at the handbook secti= on >> on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient >> Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless >> pci card so that the computer works quite well. =A0OK...the info I glean= ed >> from pciconf -lv shows: >> >> device =A0 =A0=3D 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG =A0(MPC13B' >> > > Perfect. =A0Is "220BG" a typo? =A0I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225B= G > and so on. =A0If it _is_ a typo, try this: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=3D1' >> /boot/loader.con= f > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0echo 'if_iwi_load=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0echo 'iwi_bss_load=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0echo 'iwi_ibss_load=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0echo 'iwi_monitor_load=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) > > After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. =A0(I'm not > aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) > Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your > Presario. For a fresh install of 8.1 you only need: if_iwi_load=3D"YES" legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=3D1 cheers, Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:25:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BDC10656A6 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5C08FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5653388vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:25:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EP4Mdq7t+KXcMetuVuOU0cLF1idZgGeOU1ylKyaAGSU=; b=pNMWVvugGf9V2Qkqr6VDHexChwlwWrDsyBhRc40lPUVI+Wzj9ZOlytRMYwGIbNUC7J xz8aeEXsBMLyTqoJi1UX9yYJi1vGqavuh+6XNIoq04pyh6s8rTDvGdXw5GJJXJ5y1mKm iestLzRlWm+MOd9zBqjdYocJMeFfAXr0Pz5B4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lIRGKRNjXmIQq/Ue5YiStVxiUaRl8w043LLNiBlfWcIM7Yf52k/oekeR52OngmWa8K VsPbc2DIc5IgOuEPtcKrVJrVuMmim/HQAKWqowy6X25PTT1F4CLL3N+4uXkQzcoOn+Tt IWhHex+hpft60GEKVBALYAdSHNBUESlkTQZ4s= Received: by 10.220.61.140 with SMTP id t12mr2858456vch.194.1282533908405; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm3206635vbb.12.2010.08.22.20.25.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71EA11.7080303@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:25:05 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Byrnes References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Rem P Roberti , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:25:09 -0000 On 8/22/10 11:21 PM, Rob Byrnes wrote: [snip] >> >> echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' >> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'if_iwi_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_bss_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_ibss_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_monitor_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> [snip] > > For a fresh install of 8.1 you only need: > > if_iwi_load="YES" > legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 > Thanks - I wasn't aware of this. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:27:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4033F1065693 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 107928FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7600 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2010 03:27:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2010 03:27:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=jmDNRZPPYhlXspqlWCvpjywxBDoIBsvfoMnVRp/EQqSz9mhyNdtU4hBqxBPJV6RWIyn7gbSEq277cpiZga6hLzrBeognwmdY9peMfYoLpnlduraZLPTDvAkL31F9TiYW; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnNh3-0005Hh-7w for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:27:30 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:24:53 -0600 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:24:53 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100823032453.GA61711@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:27:31 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny t= his > as twaddle. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. My understanding is that it's a Mach kernel with some FreeBSD userland that has since been worked over with a rake, producing the Darwin OS. Following that, Apple dropped a load of proprietary stuff on top of Darwin to produce MacOS X. >=20 > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. This is true. >=20 > So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for i= t, > or filing bugs or whatever. > (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as > well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc.= ..) Good for you. >=20 > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support > software developed under such licenses. Why not? Tell me what benefit is gained by not using FreeBSD, or what benefit is lost by discouraging others from using your technology. >=20 > Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though App= le > done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. > So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD > license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most > significantly Apple. WebKit is actually not GPLed. It's a combination (at least primarily) of the LGPL and the BSD License. I guess you should stop using any WebKit based browser if you don't like the BSD License. >=20 > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the c= ode > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. In what way is it counterproductive? What goal do you want to serve that the BSD License hinders? Perhaps you should consider some alternative views of the matter. For instance, there's . . . * Copyfree (an alternative to Copyright and Copyleft): http://copyfree.org * Software Liberation Front (counter-copyleft advocacy): http://softwareliberationfront.org * Choose the Right Licensing Model for Security Software: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=3D610 * Copyfree vs. Copyleft: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Copyfree_vs_Copyleft * BSD/Copyfree vs. Corporate Copyleft: http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=3D622 I have found that it's really the GPL, and copyleft licensing in general, that is counterproductive. It has been used to launch attacks on small open source projects, employ anticompetitive and monopolistic business tactics, and keep open source code from being used in other open source projects. In fact, copyleft licenses tend to be mutually incompatible. They prohibit proprietary software projects from using their code, and they also prohibit copyfree software projects (such as the FreeBSD project) from using their code (at least directly) -- but they also prohibit copyleft projects that use a different copyleft license from using their code. I find the hypocrisy rather odious. I suppose your tastes may differ. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxx6gUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVq2wCeM8jnyB0q8Asx0lC9DL3KcUXF ZOsAnA1+cn7kGUggn84452EiZi5r1hok =dnSx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:28:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF2106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523078FC1F for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xdAP1e0050b6N64A5fUeCB; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:28:38 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xfUZ1e00C46zqiB8PfUaJE; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:28:35 +0000 Message-ID: <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:28:33 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:28:39 -0000 > On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section >> on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient >> Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless >> pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned >> from pciconf -lv shows: >> >> device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' >> > Perfect. Is "220BG" a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG > and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: > > echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1'>> /boot/loader.conf > echo 'if_iwi_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf > echo 'iwi_bss_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf > echo 'iwi_ibss_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf > echo 'iwi_monitor_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf > > (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) > > After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not > aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) > Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your > Presario. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. ---Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:32:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BD41065695 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F738FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5656930vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:32:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c9ukcXUJvkLqrGY2qgxj6p9O1VjS0B703g2zBu6i6i4=; b=YPywRj/rHzYspNyo7QLN7n9BISDOHtTVIcxq2/Ff3hxLjuKdStDxAYqGrv62g7vH81 IYK1rEroVG7Xbhn98UjagGQ8i0mDrmpDDI0C9SwGvg6elCIaFAMGCqcdurZYGHILeQsh w0HPWeLgIHi1C7F5ga9j02rimBAlhOU1vXGDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WvreTfgHfaPxqcrAqyDIUA/Fq01PVcofmPNwGYL3A7Ygn7WaPatWzbtlVJflJwfUv/ fHfSQyGXZbAiGTQOm4SwJaW4zL0GuDq16A3yH4sWb3I7G6qcNCF9TGW27LDTp4Bs3AW1 MFRMOdy6BMxN4Y0YNJCaE43w+oDgtfNQD8mXs= Received: by 10.220.98.193 with SMTP id r1mr2903096vcn.89.1282534351472; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1sm3207283vbl.8.2010.08.22.20.32.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:32:29 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:32:32 -0000 On 8/22/10 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig > output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in > /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. > Good to hear. Good luck! Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:35:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A459610656A3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3276B8FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so3436115ewy.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MJuk/qymVN9dDf6xjhab8kvPjXfZhXa3EdcMWdrIfWg=; b=kVyAi17FsnA2IhlhsuiC+D2ICUQ1dyQ/RmqjgkUDxULs+G1lffDcXTRRpz+Z9c359K VKgm4LYC7eFAZUKj/Oc+Yf8TYL7dJyDck+rhAIa77VXdKB6exUHzmuxGgDR+R7eU54D8 Fag9rWn3+9jNh6y7PVqR0A81MpaEEP8+OhYAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mt5GIBzBw2F0ss0CJwYadq6OhkVtaS3fH1FMI6nnj7lYNo4GcMt7qdgtdJ26WbWu0n ghjECRGvKqM6oX9IXN1ZfdkGeDrbgDW3D1Kia/vJ2S+/+TieoHiKxgiN/l/1l4Y/3Pxi pl0fhGp8lqLFh7TrjUngflpe9p5ANfWW5Nl5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.2.74 with SMTP id 10mr2987661ebi.45.1282534513934; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.22.71 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:35:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Rem P Roberti Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:35:15 -0000 good, keep going... youll get there On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section >>> on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient >>> Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless >>> pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned >>> from pciconf -lv shows: >>> >>> device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' >>> >>> Perfect. Is "220BG" a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG >> and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: >> >> echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1'>> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'if_iwi_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_bss_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_ibss_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'iwi_monitor_load="YES"'>> /boot/loader.conf >> >> (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) >> >> After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not >> aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) >> Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your >> Presario. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Regards, >> >> > Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I > shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what > happens. > > ---Rem > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:51:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D67E106567A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C218FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xczM1e0040x6nqcA9fr6yG; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:51:06 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xfr31e00Q46zqiB8Yfr4HY; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:51:05 +0000 Message-ID: <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:51:03 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:51:07 -0000 > On 8/22/10 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig >> output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in >> /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. >> > Good to hear. Good luck! > > Regards, > OK...here's what is happening now. I have put these entries into /etc/rc.conf: wlans_iwi0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" when I booted up I could see from the wireless "beacon" indicator that something was happening. But I kept getting this message: iwi0: need multicast update callback And when I tried to do a ping I got the dreaded...ping: cannot resolve yahoo.com: Host name lookup failure...and then all of sudden it started working and I was able to successfully ping, and connect. Is this voodoo :-) ? ---Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:58:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADD310656CB for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BDA8FC1B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5669418vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:58:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BNUUTbIK5ESn3H+6LYRLzsUKqGqvoi0xhxpJjbxiYtc=; b=m/PmmjyyPdOFViEuWJvjkzn8K6RFQKMZ2RX8qna93zcmqN8aRSz64YFRsHsEr3A1D+ mpZHfzmxkKVabL65l71ZOwdzzM/80nIW6GTh6Yd2mTvTrjv3bnMz0AE5afznOqnTqYGn eZaOGCGw+5Bj222cn4aUpbZYcLQFrW3NM2Syw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=B65WSohYaNGTg5VW2Dmci5J3PNHeNyJ8D5rzyZ3aQdj44UsapeF0eZjpwG0bN9xVxk AsUIEQVkz7ur1gau5tRJYyRHDNfo6W1IR/3om82MtHNKZHCOxTGY8th6mk0yzaHBXbpF O6Sn8OWq6xWPQs0GcrJVDmh7Zz+dW1YwZe9io= Received: by 10.220.62.72 with SMTP id w8mr2704769vch.200.1282535937920; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w31sm3220701vbs.15.2010.08.22.20.58.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71F1FF.5020906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:58:55 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:58:59 -0000 On 8/22/10 11:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > OK...here's what is happening now. I have put these entries into > /etc/rc.conf: > > wlans_iwi0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > > when I booted up I could see from the wireless "beacon" indicator that > something was happening. But I kept getting this message: > > iwi0: need multicast update callback > I used to see this on my Toshiba laptop I no longer use (using iwn(4)). It is seemingly harmless. > And when I tried to do a ping I got the dreaded...ping: cannot resolve > yahoo.com: Host name lookup failure...and then all of sudden it started > working and I was able to successfully ping, and connect. In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. > Is this voodoo :-) ? > Probably. :) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:11:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8B4106564A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A558FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xg071e0020S2fkCAAgBX5B; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:31 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xgBU1e00F46zqiB8VgBV9g; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:30 +0000 Message-ID: <4C71F4F0.6030304@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:11:28 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> <4C71F1FF.5020906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C71F1FF.5020906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:32 -0000 > In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the > authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few > seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. > You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a portupgrade as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with Comcast I'd be done. For a while. One thing at a time. Thank you for your help. Cheers... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:11:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD0E1065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp5.server.rpi.edu (smtp5.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372578FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.124.121] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.121]) by smtp5.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o7N3AJMM001089; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:10:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:10:19 -0400 To: "Garry" , From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.9999 (Score 5) X-RPI-SA-Score: 5.10 (*****) [Hold at 15.00] COMBINED_FROM X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.225 Cc: Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:53 -0000 At 1:25 AM +0100 8/23/10, Garry wrote: > >Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor >lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure >that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out >of BSD. Mac OS is the Mach kernel, plus a userland and unix libraries which are very much BSD-ish. They pulled in from all three major BSD projects (NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD). On top of that they have their GUI layer, which is Quartz instead of X11, and the development environment which is based on InterfaceBuilder (from NeXTSTEP days) and Objective-C. The Objective-C api's are called "Cocoa". Which is to say, if you're counting lines-of-code than most of MacOS is *not* from any BSD. The parts which did come from the BSD's are available as source from Apple (in the project called Darwin). If we don't "get much out of Apple", it's because we aren't looking through their source code, and that would not be the fault of Apple. They make sure we can't get much out of their work at the Mach kernel, Quartz, and Cocoa layers, but then they can't get anything out of us for those layers either. So, I don't see what the complaint is. They've also contributed to a number of other open-source projects, projects which have been BSD or GNU licensed. >Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking >for instance. This is true. (or at least it definitely used to be true, I have no idea if Vista and Windows7 are still using the BSD networking stack). So you're saying that you would prefer that Microsoft wrote their own networking stack, which everyone else in the world would be *required* to deal with, instead of using a network stack which was already known and tested? >Having seen how BSD license software has been used, to create >highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do >not feel that I can support software developed under such >licenses. That is your choice, of course. And, well, I don't care. All I care is how I feel based on my work in the BSD's. I'm happy with how my work has been used. I'm happy to keep contributing, either with code or with donations to help others to produce quality BSD-licensed open-source code. BSD-licensing is probably not appropriate for all projects, but it works well for the kinds of projects that I tend to work on. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:13:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F35106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4678FC20 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so2264490gwj.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=0ews65Jag3qQORrjh9rKq9uN3xKn2GdCLgmfgcmBudk=; b=mfuvIAoFoEb3IAVwKLvmz8ODAO7U12hKJA7iklroveVUZXQbqSdIO9CjawoQYeY1/J UxZNfxJAeWXJRUe9AFDsxBrgeRavy1wgl8h2QGpe9abyW9ypgBtQr11AT27+mnM2yEdK uv1gK43lafo3s6bC+CLsMz/tncUUjEanvrRsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=VXkxoMg+3drl13kLpKfuIxNpOfL/myUbAEbVRLc8fqEwF8CRLOPOG1YJUerZpB+l24 alcUowC9q7kfmWIXGLKknjy0xwEO2t6TFk+3MuaWAB9kirJFU3mU5c4ai2lwHQoIRmZe hVAvOXmp2TmysV+5AfQJ7iPmGwchejfDvDmo4= Received: by 10.151.122.15 with SMTP id z15mr4449437ybm.249.1282536782453; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u42sm6807977yba.0.2010.08.22.21.13.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:12:59 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100823041259.GA37467@stainmore> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:13:03 -0000 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. If the kernel is the basis of an OS, then OS X is basically the Mach kernel. The userland part of early versions of OS X borrowed heavily from NetBSD, but much of this has been replaced with FreeBSD in later version. Or so I'm told. As someone else has pointed out, Apple has made some important contributions to NFS, so they are not exactly free riders. > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. NT had a notoriously unstable network stack. It suddenly became more stable with Win2k, which turned out to be due to the replacement of much of the code with code taken from FreeBSD, which has a famously stable network stack. People who claim to have seen the MS code say that large parts of it are unchanged from the original FBSD code, and include the original comments. As far as I know, that code is still being used. > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. And the wonderful thing about the proliferation of open source licenses is that you can pick a project with a license that you approve of and never have to have your code encumbered by a license you feel is inferior. The people who use FBSD and the wonderful people who produce it obviously feel that the FBSD license is the sort of license that they want to support. You are free to pity our delusions and choose a project with a more enlightened approach. Best of luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:18:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B310656A5 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE668FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5679795vws.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AwoABs9HF12kkN2PWZuTUFdAYUC//q7LSimUC23KQxk=; b=d/hAB08EfNBuKVyx5uME6UyTm0sDwYOEQKLEGb+/cuqLNjTEmkZPvjygDR8nH77tKD mNr2alEma4Mn6psbCpUFJ5RV7FXSCaa6CRFWLTpZFjwb9jFKK/Hqe1OdPHZ5C6/ZT5s4 R7xIgXE0mnNwIR0+EG4hgBVaVpBAzEldQIj08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=h833AClJ/eP4V+jME12V9sH92Q58z7mOw2Togy52tJNAVk5GgdZmj7GyX6kOPHsWiA 7mTGyDjXasYasMpqXW/x4ckfH4imPfL4yc/cdcGt1JWFMdV0sM4+E4FuARzG1pXBaA/W UMniOO23Yz//JB93E/MZ69ZwsnueyYkVKZ99s= Received: by 10.220.61.7 with SMTP id r7mr2987978vch.7.1282537091793; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r15sm3231949vbp.0.2010.08.22.21.18.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C71F681.2090908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:18:09 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> <4C71F1FF.5020906@gmail.com> <4C71F4F0.6030304@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C71F4F0.6030304@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:18:13 -0000 On 8/23/10 12:11 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the >> authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few >> seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. >> > > You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication > process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a > portupgrade as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with > Comcast I'd be done. For a while. One thing at a time. > > Thank you for your help. > Glad I could help. Enjoy! -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:22:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B691D1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4368D8FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so3022111eyx.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O6X/51X8/d/0EUoSQBH1UXjHdQaSFGdVBNnse+WPeoI=; b=ftcbhBHiL2OXwVS1rdvlnDo8qQaI4LtGwGl8BnLNvTUZsOZ0ly/Q8B4rAlS/R2XvCz 9mdps90JqkiOisuMIDxykAunRRdNgcdr2C/BbEnlEOZrzFTNKV4TE1mmEr3eYdi2Qe1m +tPiT0/0IznP4lDnSjbzpQdIt3IgDX1qseGiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wv3QQJGMdqcPoXMnyLdWL4m7TcEW+pbUN47BKCUA3c7ZfPbmHFyDBQNO8u9OVxHbmt sYXvho9kOMMgxzYU1xsfSCE6ubiA7i9ImFuHwJ0wtrafn1Kj2NqRq8DV65uR7BgrycTM s+vn0TnEgik0YTIEwb3t8Opy1Ih+5ov8/UL1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.145 with SMTP id m17mr4242142ebc.22.1282537367965; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.22.71 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:22:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C71F4F0.6030304@comcast.net> References: <4C71BCD8.7080403@comcast.net> <4C71E141.4040604@gmail.com> <4C71E462.9020805@comcast.net> <4C71E7A9.7000209@gmail.com> <4C71EAE1.8@comcast.net> <4C71EBCD.1010403@gmail.com> <4C71F027.5000604@comcast.net> <4C71F1FF.5020906@gmail.com> <4C71F4F0.6030304@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:22:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Rem P Roberti Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Thinkpad Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:22:49 -0000 have you considered postfix running in satellite more or smart host ? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the >> authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few >> seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. >> >> > You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication > process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a portupgrade > as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with Comcast I'd be done. > For a while. One thing at a time. > > Thank you for your help. > > Cheers... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 04:56:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3D41065670 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@dusk.parklogic.com) Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FD578FC1A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2552 invoked by uid 511); 23 Aug 2010 02:33:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20100823023314.2551.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> From: "Roland Smith" To: "Gary Kline" In-Reply-To: 20100819221043.GA91107@thought.org References: 20100819011024.GA10288@thought.org 4C6C8833.50108@pathscale.com 20100819185453.GA90635@thought.org 20100819200547.GB33689@slackbox.erewhon.net 20100819221043.GA91107@thought.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:33:14 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="1282530794.4E7bF40.2480"; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: well, i guess it's time to ask..... 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Regards, Webmaster References 1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 05:00:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7C710656A6 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D85A8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-iw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 36so6140146iwn.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:00:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/YxUCYBO2qlqwOom4MFcW/F85UrclXFokNN67S0Ke0k=; b=FKUVcFp/YlyeYoztR0vva16WE8KfrBi7tv5sg194r5435iGA272qJgqfKK6YRowvmT DVsxCVj/9syzODzbTavpXocqnC8Clo/Gt351beQYcz18EWC5YE1MZVox6JU7m0sGnQzr qOwVptGtSdXgZbluXPNCSDwmxXOwE+YcMEakM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tVBxozy4S0FwSdzPOAH859oQi+cdqdZqtMybTj5dHjpIr9+WyuABboZPvHRF0nrSEI /5dkj1dPs0YXSgqjRSlSxfKhspuTcKGAK4/Q/IXMJ8liEg7LyVW0mvLAZlCnZa/2ZvKv w+anFrDTKWuc/RqeAWBL6KJG8Npl40PTl7mcw= Received: by 10.231.15.73 with SMTP id j9mr69139iba.23.1282539636000; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r3sm5763016ibk.13.2010.08.22.22.00.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C720074.8060705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:00:36 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:00:36 -0000 On 8/22/2010 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Oh the corny quote, "If you love something set it free, if it comes back to you, it was meant to be." GPL is viral, restrictive, forces the code to come back and you can go to court if it doesn't. Code from OpenBSD is used with the Linux kernel, but because of the GPL even Linux kernel modules must be GPLed so the code cannot go back to OpenBSD. It's a theft in the spirit of open source, since it cannot be given back. There are rumors that the CDDL was written to be BSD style and not GPL compatible. Apache and Sendmail are both BSD licensed, but I don't see them getting "stolen." As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers should work amounts to near anarchy . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 06:04:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7921065675 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolai@net24.co.nz) Received: from omr.mail.isx.net.nz (omr.mail.isx.net.nz [210.5.49.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1608FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 210.55.30.56 (EHLO _192.168.1.111_) ([210.55.30.56]) by omr.mail.isx.net.nz (MOS 3.8.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id APX28271 (AUTH nikolai@net24.co.nz); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:53:30 +1200 (NZST) From: Nikolai Schupbach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:53:29 +1200 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: NFSv3 and v4 slow with newnfs code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:04:38 -0000 We are doing some performance testing on a new system. We have a = OpenSolaris NFS server sharing a folder on a ZFS filesystem and a = FreeBSD 8.1 NFS client. The machines are directly connected using 10GbE = (no switch in-between). Below are the performance figures we attained when doing simple 10GB dd = write (dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/mnt/file.tmp bs=3D1M count=3D10240) and = read (dd of=3D/dev/null if=3D/mnt/file.tmp) tests over NFS from the = FreeBSD client using various mount options. We performed these tests numerous times and all results are roughly the = same for each test. We have tuned kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, = net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace. This didn't result in = any significant differences in the test results. Both NFS client and = server NICs have MTU set to 9000; this improves performance noticeable. Currently it appears sticking with the stable NFSv3 code yields the best = results. Both NFSv3 and NFSv4 with the newnfs code has disappointing = performance. We installed Linux on the client machine as a test and = unfortunately Linux has the best performance by far.=20 Are there any other options we can use to improve the performance of = NFSv4 for large sequential writes and reads?=20 FreeBSD NFSv4 \w newnfs --- mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 236.627936 secs, 43 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 131.385064 secs, 95 MB/s mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4,wsize=3D32768,rsize=3D32768 = 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 258.567077 secs, 39 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 120.646962 secs, 85 MB/s FreeBSD NFSv3 \w newnfs --- mount -t newnfs -o nfsv4 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing 10737418240 bytes transferred in 215.963140 secs, 47 MB/s Reading 10737418240 bytes transferred in 101.110872 secs, 101 MB/s FreeBSD NFSv3=20 --- mount -t nfs -o nfsv3 10.0.0.2:/volumes/datpool/test /mnt Writing: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 161.739156 secs 63 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes transferred in 72.327859 secs, 129 MB/s Linux NFSv4 (CentOS 5.5) --- Writing: 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 143.776 seconds, 75 MB/s Reading: 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 63.7012 seconds, 170 MB/s --Nik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 06:21:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB61106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8513C8FC24 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so2611937qyk.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:21:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CQNme4HScnFk3nf5+iJR0MyK467X3lgBcAFaHC/HqHw=; b=cknRT7rNgbBCWoK73lgEgThqIgqn00We5qh6G0eUTDH49r0tlnTD4Aq+o1vi1M1yk/ jI8IOvZXmYb20imb2miccRq9e0sWz5GuSzYWi1DuPifiSNPwfYskB5wdrJp+jgY3uW3d 4GsRLSQ6iBXwgYZ5XnPBH3J4WFdg0rrtyWF2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VdVTTAXOwDMRL+iECMxTpEHmQ5q8PvF5J7DO++uvVb5C4dWfPO5sBWCyMSCiSv9P3S 0HKrUZltyr+UMs1nIiDlKrOHIKAoT/T3LcX3bICqJ9UuF0z8G1gCuOV9/PUcXtMKTT0a qDlEMdmHc/yWO1N5YkYegCV1LTIDVoonehhq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.191.147 with SMTP id dm19mr3259399qcb.33.1282544502781; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.75.76 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:21:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:21:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Nikolai Schupbach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: NFSv3 and v4 slow with newnfs code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:21:43 -0000 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Nikolai Schupbach wrote: > We are doing some performance testing on a new system. We have a > OpenSolaris NFS server sharing a folder on a ZFS filesystem and a FreeBSD > 8.1 NFS client. The machines are directly connected using 10GbE (no switch > in-between). > > Below are the performance figures we attained when doing simple 10GB dd > write (dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/file.tmp bs=1M count=10240) and read (dd > of=/dev/null if=/mnt/file.tmp) tests over NFS from the FreeBSD client using > various mount options. > > We performed these tests numerous times and all results are roughly the > same for each test. We have tuned kern.ipc.maxsockbuf, > net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace. This didn't result in any > significant differences in the test results. Both NFS client and server NICs > have MTU set to 9000; this improves performance noticeable. > > Currently it appears sticking with the stable NFSv3 code yields the best > results. Both NFSv3 and NFSv4 with the newnfs code has disappointing > performance. We installed Linux on the client machine as a test and > unfortunately Linux has the best performance by far. > > Are there any other options we can use to improve the performance of NFSv4 > for large sequential writes and reads? > You can use a UDP mount, should help a little. Have you measured your NIC's performance to see if that is the bottleneck. Perhaps the driver is subpar. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 06:37:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F382210656A4 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE918FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o7N6b2fj073003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o7N6b2mg073002; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00223; Sun, 22 Aug 10 23:31:26 PDT Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:31:17 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: fred@blakemfg.com Message-Id: <4c7215b5.rIwIR1ZB1fj+kBHK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:37:06 -0000 Fred Boatwright wrote: > Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on > a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if > only a modern browser was available) ... If the problems with X on FBSD are limited to the X "server" (display subsystem), perhaps you can run X "clients" (such as a recent version of FireFox) on the FBSD box with DISPLAY set to the Solaris box. The simplest way of doing this is to ssh into the FBSD box from an xterm (or rxvt, or whatever) on the Solaris box. Depending on how ssh is set up you may (or may not) need to specify -X to get the X protocol forwarded. Forwarding will result in DISPLAY being set to something like localhost:10.0 in the FBSD shell session, and it should "just work." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 06:38:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05E2106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAE68FC14 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0DF1E4DC; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7N6cucp001506; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:38:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:38:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Derek Schwartz Message-Id: <20100823083855.ba0f5b48.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100819071608.130840b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820040014.658b8280.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820051254.cc19c3f4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820061235.08600c17.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:38:58 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz wrote: > Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives, > should I try it on the other HD's??? Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question) and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result then also boot (3rd question)? In case you suspect the hard drive to be any "faulty" (or at least acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-) I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present on the disk... If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT, a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 07:08:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1161065698 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A608FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnR8h-00051S-KW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:08:15 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7N78JMl002635 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:08:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7N78JGI002634 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:08:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:08:19 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:08:18 -0000 Hello, I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) I have some questions: >From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or Win7? Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? Is there any tool in the ports to benchmark the disk i/o performance and compare the situation between now (FreeBSD native) and later (FreeBSD in a VM)? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 08:21:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E54F1065679 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tam.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B751B8FC1D for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so3486432ewy.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bMV0OukGbfvHQXIjBXyxgIuGcScHaMru/iZCtodIK6Y=; b=isG4jJzYHNDUkIVgxu2OlV+kZXeC/h1D3X9tLtmldJ88g5ZkVJzWu3T+fAxZDsLMBT 2tWr5xsF+tLesU2eKWCM3+TpEyauQByUEZ/dwbG0oWhsKN7nCswN1m1VswE2omDfTQoL K5wSQhF6BRUNzpHZ1az325n8o57Je7GYIIR60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RniH9q6wT0tvfFyIPrf5+zD2CfzAuSmn7oCXzGHt9YjHhA5Oeuv2CSEXv550UB9I3Q msflu587MXPuai4JxWqj4NiPVEDO7EOL+RqduRr95Wyq2FNN0hQY3pQIYzNJxKMvXH8u x2c4beIMteahfJn9bvMPxURxm8fd64LRj4WjU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.114.148 with SMTP id e20mr4123256ebq.52.1282549809536; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.36.8 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:50:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:50:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sergio Tam To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:21:15 -0000 2010/8/23 Matthias Apitz : > > Hello, Hi Matthias > > I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows > 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD > 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) > > I have some questions: > > >From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or > Win7? Windows 7 > > Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? VMware or Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx (Maybe some issues with the network) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 08:31:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8510C1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08F8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6009F5E18C; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:11:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.183, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NwgkEyMe+xsf; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:10:55 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72D25E1A6; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:10:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C722D71.3090606@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:12:33 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:31:38 -0000 Matthias Apitz skrev 2010-08-23 09:08: > > Hello, > > I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows > 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD > 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) > > I have some questions: > >> From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or > Win7? Win7 has much better performance. > > Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? > I'm having a dualboot machine, win7 freebsd 8.0, and on top of freebsd I use VirtualBox for virtualisation. /Leslie > Is there any tool in the ports to benchmark the disk i/o performance and > compare the situation between now (FreeBSD native) and later (FreeBSD in > a VM)? > > Thanks in advance > > matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 09:39:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43C61065693 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378328FC22 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4362424.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.168]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7N9dFYE024116 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:15 +0300 Message-ID: <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:14 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:39:17 -0000 On 23/08/2010 10:08 Ï€.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows > 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD > 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Windows below :-) > > I have some questions: > > >From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, Vista or > Win7? > Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... > Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? > Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 09:51:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87E410656A6 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A18FC14 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so716636wwf.31 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IdE5lQWvNLPS0/utPkAGg8+WePOAALb4Yq0+mP9SwSU=; b=J44W2z9++3fr3CoEOmhzX9RlRSN178kB/fpnK9TounUPwtbtFlAzSSFmeRy6Y+cs5N mRnpPa2tuIW9vryyglbpsaQ7ZN5UOreP/Z8+0TGHGNGeBBoKDczmhV23asd7gq5MUrN9 l+a+qW+k7L/MVkzegj9uRv8mhK3EtW1mCBXVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Wmwt9+LmUtV1CU4adORuYTT7+qAP5NcVH9DrhL1YFqxrPq+a4ZIa3NTI5c3W5tS7lW S/KC+HBfOE7aX0astXUdnPPw2J8s6LSgojTmnjLLl4x88nukg0kwVPFDzw83fv+K6Zle qLyWCdsWEXcmGFgit8E8gsuH3I2hngHNyuz0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.72 with SMTP id t50mr4255404wem.77.1282557060032; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.180.73 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:50:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: memory leak? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:51:01 -0000 After a reboot of my FreeBSD 8.0-p4 system a vmstat shows: Mon Aug 23 08:40:00 CEST 2010 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 1 1 0 1515M 7118M 816 5 5 0 726 0 0 0 138 2376 1740 1 2 97 My system had been allocated 8 Gb memory in a Vmware ESXi4 virtual machine. avm = active virtual pages, fre = size of free list 2525M + 7118M is 9600M is this normal? (more than 8 Gb..) six days ago is was: Tue Aug 17 14:15:00 CEST 2010 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 3 1 0 2446M 1552M 628 0 0 0 621 6 0 0 30 939 572 1 1 98 but before the reboot it was Mon Aug 23 06:45:00 CEST 2010 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 5 22 0 2260M 816M 489 0 0 0 478 2 0 0 27 957 580 1 198 avm + free adds up to only 3 Gb. Where is the rest of the memory ?? Is there a memory leak, how to find what causes the memory leak? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 10:31:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51D710656A3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9448F8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-86-31-88-103.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.88.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A67285F11; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:31:14 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20100823113114.00002280@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:31:21 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:14 +0300 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. > VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some > kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) > Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. I presume people mean VMWare Workstation when talking about VMWare, and not other products like ESXi? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 07:01:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B3110656C9 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4143D8FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so6225329iwn.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kWQ76ygWjn1K9D6nzTvLH6KS4+Qu286I/92RW3Cn1DQ=; b=AvEIWDy/hQVzxmkj+9jnG5WW9/Du+qv93LuXeKAzCKlmMIO991iIvAI+ezIJdbuK+f bchq/3+oF82zngwbNmq2wWmag7dYrCf9dPr5I/eS6bWQop1TG1EbGQwfQbI/LJ9lxwCY 6k4RCVsKW+WiDcDSxwirRIMWZODNVjIt51ZiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eSIjQ6RGcz1nU1vJMCY2liqdp2AOZmgVtEuXDHOApR+Lgbc7fGeAd+rKCZDZ3696H4 gTc0V0jw6jRSAJZDyxqdU+Z/KfVngViasRNelkmd68/R7uFoyPqHvzU/26RucxTOx1kr oSPp9GYa0ALyubZ1pG34/8USYYSEfzUAUzGuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.13.130 with SMTP id c2mr5914014iba.24.1282546883419; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.141 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:01:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100823083855.ba0f5b48.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100819071608.130840b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820040014.658b8280.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820051254.cc19c3f4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100820061235.08600c17.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100823083855.ba0f5b48.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:31:22 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: Polytropon X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:01:24 -0000 Hi, In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled my laptop. They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old :-( ). The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine. Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd . thanks, Mubeesh On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz < > derekschwartz19@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives, > > should I try it on the other HD's??? > > Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question) > and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result > then also boot (3rd question)? > > In case you suspect the hard drive to be any "faulty" (or at least > acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to > be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-) > > I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present > on the disk... > > If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT, > a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command > to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's > no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 11:26:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F9C10656A4 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37B38FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnVAU-0004rH-Cf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:22 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7NBQL0o004407 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7NBQLf3004406 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:21 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:26:25 -0000 El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... > > Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? > > > > Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. > VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some > kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) > Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current system. Any objectives with this? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 11:28:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76857106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8168FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4362424.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.168]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7NBSVtG012175; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:28:31 +0300 Message-ID: <4C725B5F.6090008@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:28:31 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823113114.00002280@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100823113114.00002280@unknown> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:28:36 -0000 On 23/08/2010 1:31 μ.μ., Bruce Cran wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:39:14 +0300 > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > >> Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. >> VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some >> kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) >> Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. >> > I presume people mean VMWare Workstation when talking about VMWare, and > not other products like ESXi? > > Yes, I mean Workstation. I'd love to see ESXi in action but have no real server-class machines around. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 11:31:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDBA1065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201558FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4362424.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.168]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7NBV80B021552; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:31:08 +0300 Message-ID: <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:31:08 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:31:10 -0000 On 23/08/2010 2:26 μ.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > >> Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... >> >>> Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? >>> >>> >> Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. >> VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some >> kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) >> Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. >> > Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live > CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current > system. Any objectives with this? Thx > > matthias > This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the exact opposite with great success: I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped the partitions and restored on real hardware. Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 12:11:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914361065695 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from s2m-is-001.service2media.com (rev-132-102.virtu.nl [217.114.102.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310D48FC1E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pieter-dev.localnet ([10.0.1.91] RDNS failed) by s2m-is-001.service2media.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:10:58 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:10:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-5-amd64; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4C701170.9080306@stefreak.de> In-Reply-To: <4C701170.9080306@stefreak.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008231410.57986.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2010 12:10:58.0559 (UTC) FILETIME=[3ED480F0:01CB42BC] Cc: Steffen Neubauer Subject: Re: IO fluctuation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:11:01 -0000 On Saturday 21 August 2010 19:48:32 Steffen Neubauer wrote: > I think I can exclude the ZFS implementation too, because I tried dd > if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null and executed killall -SIGINFO dd while it was > copying and it looked like it stalled randomly too. Not related your problem, but you can press ^T to send SIGINFO to the currently running process. Saves some typing :-) - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 12:36:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E731065674 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EB78FC23 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnWGA-0007Ib-Rs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:18 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:18 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:10 +0200 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: memory leak? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:36:22 -0000 On 08/23/10 11:50, n dhert wrote: > After a reboot of my FreeBSD 8.0-p4 system > a vmstat shows: > Mon Aug 23 08:40:00 CEST 2010 > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 pa0 in sy cs us > sy id > 1 1 0 1515M 7118M 816 5 5 0 726 0 0 0 138 2376 1740 1 > 2 97 > My system had been allocated 8 Gb memory in a Vmware ESXi4 virtual machine. > avm = active virtual pages, fre = size of free list > 2525M + 7118M is 9600M is this normal? (more than 8 Gb..) See here, on a physical machine with 4 GB RAM: procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 cd0 in sy cs us sy id 1 0 0 5571M 1254M 30 0 0 0 29 0 0 0 8 519 522 0 0 100 We have 5571+1254=6825 MB. The catch is in the description - active *virtual* pages belonging to processes - they do not have to correspond to physical RAM. > six days ago is was: > 3 1 0 2446M 1552M 628 0 0 0 621 6 0 0 30 939 572 1 > 5 22 0 2260M 816M 489 0 0 0 478 2 0 0 27 957 580 > avm + free adds up to only 3 Gb. > Where is the rest of the memory ?? There are a lot other uses for memory. Try running "top" a couple of time when you seem to detect the leak and add together the various categories of memory. > Is there a memory leak, how to find what causes the memory leak? If indeed there is, which is not probable, you first need to discover is it in a userland program or in kernel. If in kernel, use "vmstat -m" to track usage over time and see if some category increases when it shouldn't. Also, since you are running vmware, maybe you should try running emulators/open-vm-tools and its vmmemctl driver - it could help if your host is running out of memory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 12:49:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D239E10656A9 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@too1337.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDEE8FC14 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so2389920gwj.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr5302487yba.28.1282567764691; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook.susnet (ip68-99-10-223.om.om.cox.net [68.99.10.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q3sm7236369ybe.2.2010.08.23.05.49.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C726E51.4000605@too1337.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:49:21 -0500 From: Steven Susbauer User-Agent: Postbox Express 1.0.1 (Macintosh/20100705) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garry References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:49:26 -0000 Garry wrote: > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. > > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. The Darwin core is a hybrid of Mach/BSD (xnu). The Darwin core is open source, and you can download the open source tools they use (and in cases such as CUPS, own and develop) from http://www.apple.com/opensource/ or http://www.opensource.apple.com/. To say they have given nothing back is untrue, they make their changes available which is not required, but that doesn't mean they're actually being used by the community. Their graphical system on top of Darwin is proprietary, but it is possible to build Darwin using the source code provided by Apple. There is only vendor lock in if you choose to use applications which only work in their graphical environment, but for most things that would cause vendor lock-in, they are either open source or available on multiple platforms. It's interesting you mention how Apple doesn't give back, as it has also been the case with Linux and related projects borrowing code from BSD and then "not giving back" by proving changes under an incompatible license. This has been discussed at length on the lists of some BSD project with an outspoken leader... Also, Linux and GPL software is not immune from the "Apple treatment". Android uses the Dalvik VM for all of the software, and Dalvik is under the Apache license which allows for proprietary uses. You should notice this is definitely used to the fullest by cell phone vendors as they release source code for the kernel only. How is it Apple releases more code than is available for your typical Android device? > > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. The "productive" hope is that good code will be used, and people will not write bad code instead due to overly restrictive licenses preventing them from using said good code. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 13:11:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CE1065698 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4718FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-68-0.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.68.0] (may be forged)) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o7NDBYnN020576; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:11:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4C727386.6090802@bah.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:11:34 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100817 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4C6FF25D.1090304@stillbilde.net> <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100821234850.00003f9a@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Svein Skogen Subject: Re: Parklogic making a mess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:43 -0000 2010-08-22 00:48, Bruce Cran skrev: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 > Svein Skogen wrote: > >> Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: > > I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I haven't seen them, and haven't looked for them. > I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an > anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had > hoped for! Ok. Then parklogic is permanetly blacklisted here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 13:42:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9738D1065675 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from amavis-smtp.knology.net (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7D18FC20 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis-smtp [127.0.0.1]) by amavis-smtp.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B8188980; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp12.knology.net ([75.76.199.9]) by localhost (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id fDkp8A5Vapjt; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Grumpy.DynDNS.org (unknown [24.42.224.110]) by smtp12.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228895200031; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 050D028435; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:42:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:42:39 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100823134239.GA19094@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> <20100823041259.GA37467@stainmore> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100823041259.GA37467@stainmore> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:42:44 -0000 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:12:59AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: > > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor > > lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure > > that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of > > BSD. > > If the kernel is the basis of an OS, then OS X is basically the Mach > kernel. Kirk McKusick of FFS fame has been quoted as saying to the effect, "The difference between Linux and BSD is that all BSDs have the same userland but different kernels. All Linuxes have the same kernel but differing userlands." > The userland part of early versions of OS X borrowed heavily from > NetBSD, but much of this has been replaced with FreeBSD in later > version. Or so I'm told. What I've seen of it its been primarily FreeBSD from the start. There are also a number of FreeBSD device drivers in MacOS X, not the least of which is fxp. The irony of that is Apple has never shipped an Intel based NIC. Or at least not for years after fxp was included. The fxp man page existed in earlier MacOS X but not in 10.6.4. NICs supported by fxp were favorites of Jordan Hubbard and other FreeBSD'ers now working for Apple. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 14:00:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4F7106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06EB08FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3565 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2010 14:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Aug 2010 14:00:31 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m1DRnhD5ZHNz for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:00:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3548 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2010 14:00:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2010 14:00:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4C727D66.8080908@blakemfg.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:53:42 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net> <4C6CBEAD.4070504@gmail.com> <4C6F457D.E18CCA82@blakemfg.com> <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4c7215b5.rIwIR1ZB1fj+kBHK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c7215b5.rIwIR1ZB1fj+kBHK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:00:32 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Fred Boatwright wrote: > > >> Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on >> a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if >> only a modern browser was available) ... >> > > If the problems with X on FBSD are limited to the X "server" > (display subsystem), perhaps you can run X "clients" (such as a > recent version of FireFox) on the FBSD box with DISPLAY set to > the Solaris box. > > The simplest way of doing this is to ssh into the FBSD box from an > xterm (or rxvt, or whatever) on the Solaris box. Depending on how > ssh is set up you may (or may not) need to specify -X to get the > X protocol forwarded. Forwarding will result in DISPLAY being set > to something like localhost:10.0 in the FBSD shell session, and it > should "just work." > _______________________________________________ > > The problem I was having is fixed now. xrdb was hanging for some reason to be fixed later. However, I am very much interested in your suggestion and planned to post some questions about how to do it when I had time to work on it. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 14:18:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C049106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C698FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1042953wwf.31 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:18:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=enWixCAM4AvSo8ccsvYX3XB3Gqxv4OxxAFPa6OhQDtc=; b=oCVIlG1A8wXLuRDs3GpRBsWaylOoCmjuQhaCJ25ULYk8Uzj88uce7VSdpYhGk6cWtv iryZlMkCeVgaM2XynHpqIm4slQUi0yVZw86Z4ObTQq+SXSQ5zHyX3uSrS0Lm8ZGQ+miF 04HVYeGaGga10nC1YV35lUhtdN8+gAb3Tt3TE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=u28dydCDQFoFc1xcV0aq+1WV2xPRs8kGD0XTOiO6QL8SfFJ49gu/mAT2cqF3KbxsA5 ZaYvagZ3CZj3EudQvwf5J/55SyTU5O5L4XteqYvPjYo2fqzOiZ7u70SMYL8QgHT6HZjo oZJlRG0bK4id/59WHF5uwnUS3P2lv/wukOJ7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.134.69 with SMTP id i5mr4583234wbt.165.1282573114423; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.131.1 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:18:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Diego Arias To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:18:36 -0000 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 23/08/2010 2:26 =CE=BC.=CE=BC., Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El d=C3=ADa Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Kia= gias > escribi=C3=B3: > > > > > >> Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... > >> > >>> Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best > performance? > >>> > >>> > >> Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. > >> VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some > >> kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) > >> Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. > >> > > Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD liv= e > > CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current > > system. Any objectives with this? Thx > > > > matthias > > > > This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the > exact opposite with great success: > > I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped > the partitions and restored on real hardware. > Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a da= y. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi: I use Virtualbox for my desktop and have 1 VM running on Vsphere 4 (FreeBSD 8). Only have problem once of data loss because i used ATA disk instead of SCSI. Diego Arias --=20 mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 14:36:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731F01065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3124E8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2469485gyg.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:36:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=twJnXWPRV6rztRp/PVEWLa1M+cVmB1Fiueogc3B9ZDY=; b=EFKpy6OVAePrJ1PVXg5YPGPKHo8jEcyR+eflogHxH6783zOhdOVyHlTilpawFGD+0X XvokmEEV79MKKR3V+GDPfGh2lV/lNPAvO7PrzEwuaSHkS1uslF8m16r+32zuV/nXZv3V eCPAkiNeiqpGj2U4w667elSn9IsTV+nDUHQ7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=eJQbbJ8rh0HSyURwoIUtOMfb1koabJcTNkyv+J3Kr1AOvAv1rrV1kVuaEHeke+IhB8 EHkmk9b/+BN6uJqW5vMnyB5xOOeUbVuXpusV4tRYeCy4wG5/obRVE5LgixkywJZrvUA8 cLn9dsY+eOX/qJfmWX3k2iiCRJmyRnhfSbRLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.22.18 with SMTP id l18mr4433046ebb.85.1282574184834; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.122.65 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:36:24 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WkInvBpG2ogeETfRNcYzJL2DFXE Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Directory Encryption? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:36:26 -0000 What is a good tool to encrypt a directory? I need an application that is also readily available for Apple OSX, and that does not get mangled when transferring via rsync. Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:15:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE41106567A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081E98FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnYVM-0005c8-V2; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:00:10 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:15:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:15:27 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100823151527.GA70008@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:15:33 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Matthias Apitz on Monday, 23 August 2010: > Hello, >=20 > I've to re-install my laptop with some Windows version (Vista or Windows > 7) with disk encryption. Of course I will go on to work in FreeBSD > 9-CURRENT and KDE3 as desktop. Please, don't ask me why I have to put Win= dows below :-) >=20 > I have some questions: >=20 > >From the point of view of performance in FreeBSD, what would be better, = Vista or > Win7? Win7, hands down. >=20 > Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best performance? I used VMWare Workstation. Most everything worked OK, but I did have an occasional spontaneous reboot of FreeBSD as a guest (this was back on version 7.2, I think -- haven't tried it on 8). --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMcpCPAAoJEIpckszW26+RQtEH/AqctWFK+vNyxO6TvXo7c//U 7f7CEK+v2o6XrYPeng57OBa3oNolE099w1PsyR+Ky+bhpxsn+PSSFgvADZxO2qWQ 6zEnpTU443CFH+KQvOEjiSvGlVg6pKQ3EAT0PQiURAU7emvbhiv/01p70OwUlA7L KIMux7t8lyBNlP07sLUfR5BM+tA5jsng8qof52n1o1dfiDhyTls31fyw6MD6CiyJ bTSNOWtb3XxFOg7ZeHbG7bdE9P47u54OCjVzdWGQ3yflbFkuKuH4SMgtM8JIZzTD DwSmFHgb7VopW947ZDR5uwsX5l++cKkr4NWWJqAAe/lvw9a9wBLpu1x/pb9TO1U= =giHZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:20:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A745F1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmontalvo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3850C8FC1B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3509259fxm.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:20:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Q4ABg+rLyP+iTLgIbDx7KV6lSR2/8Ahat4VYJzP+QI=; b=aSKK+Kn3tvPZ5JkSy+age2WuKEsfXT2ZT7WNBst30hWIQ221s38jyzz9af+zFZ839z TOvGwIkaXdTJYx0s3vSQM9DGIetIHg7aTCzHUSGAHU6htzb4KUxDug6WpLlUDw5ArQA/ pL4s40y0yLBgwMKd2iJuZfQFcRFsKISgDt2Do= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bQDW0mb9oYXwWucMnh69hxWnz0X4+8sDaArnZ58gjAv5RZYy45PQHhCxB+CoJyZVHl WHW7yAB/vyiT2LP1DfkzqGIlP+Cx+v5Kr9bD+YCNExBUjEFcA+bpoocSXjpBFpcLknCK Gfjf+zC/BQAFYB1RjIl46d29yCL/JKkDLB0Sk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.66 with SMTP id e2mr4500815fap.39.1282576838099; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.97.212 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:20:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:20:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Diego Montalvo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:20:40 -0000 I use Win 7 64 bit - Virtual Box 3.2.6 r63112 with FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE / Xfce installed in Virtual Box have not had any issues at all. Diego On 23 August 2010 07:18, Diego Arias wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote= : > >> On 23/08/2010 2:26 =CE=BC.=CE=BC., Matthias Apitz wrote: >> > El d=C3=ADa Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 12:39:14PM +0300, Manolis Ki= agias >> escribi=C3=B3: >> > >> > >> >> Win 7 is a lot better than Vista... >> >> >> >>> Any recommendation for the virtualisation software for best >> performance? >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Vmware achieves very good performance without trouble. >> >> VirtualBox works OK most of the time (and it's free) but I had some >> >> kernel panics running FreeBSD (unless the host is also FreeBSD!) >> >> Have not tried very recent versions though, it may have improved. >> >> >> > Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD li= ve >> > CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current >> > system. Any objectives with this? Thx >> > >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 matthias >> > >> >> This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the >> exact opposite with great success: >> >> I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped >> the partitions and restored on real hardware. >> Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a d= ay. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > Hi: > > I use Virtualbox =C2=A0for my desktop and have 1 VM =C2=A0running on Vsph= ere 4 > (FreeBSD 8). Only have problem once of data loss because i used ATA disk > instead of SCSI. > > > Diego Arias > -- > mmm, interesante..... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:33:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE171065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93AFC8FC19 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24316 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2010 15:33:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2010 15:33:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Lb8U/csZVAvOxEQqsA56YJ0EqEPdXJQaDZWLkq3wB+ndW+3o5/uzw1xoL+Ls8t7OVEzaJYWlBW8q2C/vrMn3FiszOgv/Hg3QtV6zQDtgufmqZB4kiQoyFtiXnCEAa/6Y; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnZ1v-0000pu-QX for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:33:48 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:31:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:31:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100823153110.GC64539@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:33:49 -0000 --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:10:19PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > At 1:25 AM +0100 8/23/10, Garry wrote: > > > >Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking > >for instance. >=20 > This is true. (or at least it definitely used to be true, I > have no idea if Vista and Windows7 are still using the BSD > networking stack). It's true either way, because Garry said "(or used to use)". It is true that MS Windows used to use a BSD licensed network stack. My understanding is that this got replaced in Vista, however, in case you're curious. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxylD4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW6CwCgiPl9NnWZTlRVnghkQjHU65/u mYwAoLbw+4wlNc9aPegGS5SGcxsWnV6s =AZoe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:39:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0230E106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFCA08FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22576 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2010 15:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2010 15:39:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=W/T/eo4n/qbXyISXvsX/6FYySaVnhay0Pqv/Em60OeAWKKiSKPryeqKzARqV6xAPtOdSIf+Sm1lhG17kywzBI0HCyoAbloA//ka4yC0haayfaThWsaoqlhWiDdQcyyk4; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnZ76-0007sn-Re for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:39:09 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:36:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:36:31 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100823153631.GD64539@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> <4C720074.8060705@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="osDK9TLjxFScVI/L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C720074.8060705@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:39:11 -0000 --osDK9TLjxFScVI/L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:00:36AM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: >=20 > As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it=20 > and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and=20 > not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers=20 > should work amounts to near anarchy=20 > . I do not think "anarchy" is the correct term so much as "chaos". --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --osDK9TLjxFScVI/L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxylX8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWVJACcCA6BzfSwh9JppIk6ft072zT/ n8kAoLJF++FMIjNrRIgBJESLbTTZXNrr =Xbiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --osDK9TLjxFScVI/L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:45:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3CC106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1808B8FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xodd1e0041u4NiLAArl28h; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:02 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xrkz1e00F46zqiB8hrl1YB; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:01 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:44:59 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:03 -0000 Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I just run "startx" I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. As usual, help is very appreciated. ---Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:53:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0DA10656A7 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4D48FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so6143424vws.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7OnkCFdiEtU133TP6yaiGC3GQCdjbqhyHZ5nUUTU1P8=; b=WAReVGdNRjdTy/dXHN7HHMZP7L1Wrda1vdIx3Hdv4PhiHD1Xa1u2tF6Hqd7WUqO0rl eDaYm99NiC+Iovj3m24q0gMGSgXNoSLNTmupT8Hf46cW/3SFnKC0M3KT9q0Ja9qToeNx v4XfKo1HPscgR0+Ik1dgBj40lj+HzuBC5Pg08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=K4qt3JTunFlYdWDtUYrMHM8UthRhEwchqx0vaFEeW+s7alLqd1M9E64qBBv59EntHc 32sOyUP/2H/Dl+Qm6QJWEhhIJ90gSBCRSFU51Mm5wEdYdhxJDMirSkwJfnMGQemrOgzZ mV12Wg1yVAX8hR17HoxI3AgcI8Q1yNJ5KQwZw= Received: by 10.220.88.152 with SMTP id a24mr3224106vcm.129.1282578786548; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1sm3545192vbl.8.2010.08.23.08.53.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72995F.6060802@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:53:03 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:53:07 -0000 On 8/23/10 11:44 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so > on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this > new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying > the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and > dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, > or if I just run "startx" I momentarily see the initial screen, which is > displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all > she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is > a reboot via the power switch. > > As usual, help is very appreciated. > Try adding this to xorg.conf: Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" EndSection Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 15:56:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F294010656A3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19B08FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so2578493pxi.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bUyZr4LCGvS+3itSsFh8cH1pBAdotbyKk3rZIwiyZgg=; b=N+08WgvKFHaGSZqdE5mqQFwNVmcxGVOp1g1HCTZW39+wG/NWMUv2nxM7glDrhoNFap oxo0p/mYmB9aZIXmnYvHHZ4ddbw2czYNscZntK007CEnQZkQtAQGgQEQjzj7GkybRTA2 9VhXDkVI3dNMh6/YkRJ2K5H8CQy3pEb19mQzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BGkM3fV9Ry048jj0RMlNWffVpLEj4bS9OaQyQujoFX+G5N81SsQBGsRb5DDJwuJZIc fpIk72OJcbq2aTG4XPdC2RY7cS9bOttQnkrrUPP2S62J8sAVUG2rot592YJF3PKH2xH2 6ZGbGo54IBbPtC0RiZz8KXjjzR9CNQ+myfG7Q= Received: by 10.142.204.17 with SMTP id b17mr4650508wfg.109.1282578995059; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm1875169vcn.5.2010.08.23.08.56.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C729A2D.8010107@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:56:29 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72995F.6060802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72995F.6060802@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:56:36 -0000 On 8/23/10 11:53 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 11:44 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so >> on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this >> new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying >> the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and >> dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, >> or if I just run "startx" I momentarily see the initial screen, which is >> displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all >> she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is >> a reboot via the power switch. >> >> As usual, help is very appreciated. >> > > Try adding this to xorg.conf: > > Section "ServerFlags" > option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > EndSection > > Regards, > I misread your 'hald and dbus enabled' as 'disabled' initially, so this may or may not help. Do you see a mouse pointer when the screen goes blank? Also, can you include Xorg.log.0 and xorg.conf? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 16:04:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51C21065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timm@ticore.de) Received: from businessbox4.server-home.net (businessbox4.server-home.net [195.137.212.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785178FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.132] (mail.shr.cc [87.193.183.98]) by businessbox4.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ABD8BA829C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:04:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C729C29.2090206@ticore.de> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:04:57 +0200 From: Timm Wimmers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Directory Encryption? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:04:59 -0000 Am 23.08.2010 16:36, schrieb Chris Maness: > What is a good tool to encrypt a directory? I need an application > that is also readily available for Apple OSX, and that does not get > mangled when transferring via rsync. How about "openssl'? Encrypt a TARed directory: $ tar cjf - /path/to/source/folder | \ openssl enc -e -bf -out OUTFILE.tgz.enc -pass pass:MYSILLYPASS Decrypt: $ openssl enc -d -bf \ -in OUTFILE.tgz.enc \ -out OUTFILE.tgz \ -pass pass:MYSILLYPASS There are also ways to encrypt with keys, see manpage. -- Timm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 16:05:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52D2106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99D8FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnZHK-0002FI-Kx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:49:43 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:05:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:05:01 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100823160501.GB70008@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> <4C720074.8060705@gmail.com> <20100823153631.GD64539@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100823153631.GD64539@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:05:06 -0000 --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 23 August 2010: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:00:36AM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: > >=20 > > As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it= =20 > > and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and= =20 > > not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers=20 > > should work amounts to near anarchy=20 > > . >=20 > I do not think "anarchy" is the correct term so much as "chaos". >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] =46rom the chaos created by a faux egalitarianism a Stal(in|lmann) always r= ises. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMcpwtAAoJEIpckszW26+RWL8IAJLlCypGO28i/R2lx+OrJBLr sNAc0oHnWOUNSs8al9DF7sZ/dYG0ToOWE9kUMYBadvPIxI6wSXe8AIXoz2XER+Qa Kx8C6NgK62zA9poyHwKI4DcjTWNKfK/jzhJQdl0+eUVcorCMff6a2Ao+6Tn6aDMr g612Q5kr29XG85dBEyhCPbimcu6V0/w1bgD/Q6IVuydKCdYtgklTHdWNp7o8rd5t BUbEioNmfy+o211v2HnLHIOEYCYgOj+AlsCH5eOkUHZzufumNaMlhX3b5u55lxiE GbZZ7QkXb/gZaHjSiEo30/QL0l4g+/iWJu/gmJ5kKm6ADdyDkLTZ0ysK86k1Liw= =16Pb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 16:20:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73189106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF768FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so6634631iwn.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:20:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M9Tp8X5hM7DtQFBiov0knb4Qh4UQlcWZ6+bh1T6iUek=; b=r2O/iJgm+BjzboJh2CLTF/vVz0JBu6VCEIkCMegNJzIC22LQFQD15qUtWxnij+cJ5/ 5sRlRwUpJbh5Xpvx6rXVdOVmm3NU9b6ryv2UXNzS/1S41xojFZmVXp9HaraevGromAx4 FNMjvIeiupO9ZkEBU1WKavCoypW9yGA67lB+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JsOFlnd5+5iCGA97SK+3MUkeqT1SO+9HEOVrTgSaVDtrczdgGsXBpIkDQvCne5+Nx0 UQUVqG9UKGcRbj/sgRy2M+OuYpCgQTw+oSLgzXOVr0VAjBvmoe0bEtz9YfNJVfnCQs6F lh6bWvR69gaYN1NtijHF19lfRgmC5EPkwDxGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.9 with SMTP id k9mr6813313iby.127.1282580435635; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.145.21 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:20:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:20:36 -0000 Hi folks, I have several networking books (TCP/IP, Network Security, etc., etc.) and it seems that several of them discuss TCP/IP in different scenarios. One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that FreeBSD! O.K., now you've got my curiosity... 1.) Do you agree? 2.) What makes the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack so much better and or different than other OSes??? 3.) Are there any good resources (URLs, books, etc.) that highlight the differences??? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 16:21:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9DC1065679 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8951D8FC25 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NGLTpI088090; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:21:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NGLTGs088087; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:21:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:21:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:21:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:21:40 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so on my > Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on this new 8.1 > installation, and have run the xorg configure program, copying the > xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both hald and dbus > enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on xorg.conf, or if I > just run "startx" I momentarily see the initial screen, which is displayed > when X11 loads, but then the screen goes blank, and that's all she wrote. No > keyboard, no mouse, totally frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the > power switch. The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 16:25:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1BD10656A3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F0A8FC15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7NGP1SA016547; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C507BAA0; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:00 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Garry Message-ID: <20100823162500.GA33387@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:03 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny t= his > as twaddle. =20 > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_X#History and http://en.wikipedia.org/w= iki/XNU It's a Mach-based kernel, with parts of FreeBSD's and NetBSD's userland. > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple is a big user of and contributor to the LLVM project [http://llvm.org= /] to create a modular and reusable compiler and toolchain with a BSD-like license. See e.g. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/20/apples_other_open_secret_the_= llvm_complier.html =20 > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. No. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/6/19/05641/7357 > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support > software developed under such licenses. FreeBSD still exists. And so do NetBSD and OpenBSD.=20 If someone wants to use BSD-licensed code, great. But if that company then decides not to contribute back they are not so smart. If they change the co= de but to not contribute back changes, the original developers don't know about it, nor can they merge it with their own developments. So over time the code-bases will diverge, and the company in question has to do more and more maintenance on that code. The crux of the matter is that if you don't contribute back you'll lose the advantage of open-source development and its community. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxyoNwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXelQCgjBnz4oo0WS3oKbZ8X4/gVsZ/ dZ0AnifNeyX5L+zXfBwKxDsy79UgT304 =AXom -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 17:03:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1710106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75008FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xopU1e0021smiN4A1t3bEx; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:03:35 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xt3X1e00K46zqiB8gt3Z97; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:03:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72A9E3.7070609@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:03:31 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:03:36 -0000 On 08/23/10 09:21, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> Thanks to the list X11 is now running perfectly on my desktop; not so >> on my Thinkpad R51. Here's what's happening. I installed xorg on >> this new 8.1 installation, and have run the xorg configure program, >> copying the xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf. I have both >> hald and dbus enabled in /etc/rc.conf. When I try to run the test on >> xorg.conf, or if I just run "startx" I momentarily see the initial >> screen, which is displayed when X11 loads, but then the screen goes >> blank, and that's all she wrote. No keyboard, no mouse, totally >> frozen. The only way out is a reboot via the power switch. > > The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the > xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 > > Apparently IBM used a number of different graphics cards with this laptop. Pciconf -lv indicates a 855/GM Montara Integrated Graphics Device. I am in the process of copying the xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files over to this computer so that I can post them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 17:44:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C741D1065674 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB408FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xqef1e0051vN32cA3tkYol; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:44:32 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xtkV1e00Y46zqiB8itkXhq; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:44:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:44:29 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:44:32 -0000 > The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the > xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 > > Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "dri2" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "CacheLines" # #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "NoDDC" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # #Option "PageFlip" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "intel" VendorName "Intel Corporation" BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "CacheLines" # #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "NoDDC" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # #Option "PageFlip" # [] Identifier "Card1" Driver "intel" VendorName "Intel Corporation" BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" BusID "PCI:0:2:1" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Card1" Monitor "Monitor1" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Strangely, no Xorg.0.log shows up in /var/log. 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Minker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 17:51:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D29106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A221C8FC21 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so6232564vws.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fnhOA2hvTi9lgKRTj50hNAa3Oy4G14BROaTdG0D4Aeg=; b=FiQbC0raGDL8A0/rOcd9BL1w6zzNQjGioBUycIjvgNWcPgGKWk+zfnfsRzev4D1zyB tvkpcMBk7m1qUoR/f3oicgSBcwmGhZLB0n/LH6k0Ana2sQra07V9mKGgzrmUHaC2bzkB Jd8rcbTmnNpdGjZJ0b9qdq0oAkdkPM5P37dm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hoWXnUwrfDcsKorN5fLZ3xJL8rxNIuCiO0iqBp5ygnstI4WYpTDmIEF7bTFxskeD1c oPE7TIlcg91RWIOUCx9nVBup3+LY5szADpsSOy70oOCzfGmxUPlKPbe8QDI7Ux3c4tg4 sQPrr7mDy7ncUoVXsFKDOGdbkOKVhYjwMIDpo= Received: by 10.220.159.14 with SMTP id h14mr3125181vcx.255.1282585888048; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v11sm3622626vbb.12.2010.08.23.10.51.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:51:24 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:51:30 -0000 On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the >> xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: >> >> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 >> >> > > Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 17:59:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF341065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C871A8FC19 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so6242096vws.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W6JCqJGP9pf0KebXk0eAmztQs5RQ8umGCw9MjVMG6DM=; b=TodIFoDP1WEdZzerrCMPMnWvSS4s5Ty4cjfqW34CbEnpJE24TUjqiaMkW3OtOqJ/z0 OtlgV8U8coql4PMOwoIuGvf+Je4G8sjAL+ESE8/TysN3ke1M+stMU5hAKHK2eo49/9SD s06HqgCZf5SMARsgg9njf1Xbvs2LaM2z1Ndb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ukuWUgYnLUs5uxatCBANq6AmZNRX8MlvdyOqBL8hQnUjLUxmAB94vWFE2h8XEtNKKv F3Su3vyAaHmfxZMyV2kI+ofmPh17erBazCOsN/iCibnWI0vh8os3Zjj6p/GqJ0OKP8g3 PfmWMNGHAl3OmHpOZCqH3ZU0ZUxreJ5JN1oLo= Received: by 10.220.125.83 with SMTP id x19mr3420235vcr.211.1282586352754; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n9sm1940768vch.19.2010.08.23.10.59.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:10 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:14 -0000 On 8/23/10 1:51 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> >>> The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the >>> xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: >>> >>> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 >>> >>> >> >> Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" > > Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? > I suspect your laptop has an external connector for a second monitor. If so, can you plug a monitor in before trying what I suggested earlier? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 17:59:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE4F106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from friedemann.becker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A211D8FC1D for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so6242945vws.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RHGYMWFgDZhHJKrmQqo2/q08w4L9RDWkgITeCKqleig=; b=Y9aAXDkUK7FcbodJDkePnmf8XaoL1AjUH1SisKaa5I7eC9YhzNnR/Un1O1NdSAbytZ x9UvSIAxe6OSmLjwE94UEiEoIhZzTE2JDL66ObNPjCvn1pyVrChNp7dTri/x8mG3irtL An0A6DpfgPphvQy6P1v/BdDKgJ0yiba7dkTpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OR8+ec8WXwA1qENIJAA6dZqUTWurZoYo3HitipCZ2AFepnlRRDu7zIU5/bSskXFklJ hT5QKMWOWzSWJC+FywXGE+lKU1jg/UfKqkMIbR86qlKnOqUj7oU1x6cEmh2J/QvJJnFM ofj8AQ16kzu8Ka8waTHtFTpg+owXE1Nvuti4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.60.70 with SMTP id o6mr3291327vch.142.1282584886173; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.135 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Friedemann Becker To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:59:55 -0000 Hello, I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation image) on usb-stick. Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, or any hacked versions of it? And how do turn this stick in a running system? Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) Thanks in advance --=20 Gesendet von meinem Mobilger=C3=A4t From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:01:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80DB10656A6 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB15F8FC27 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xr3A1e0050b6N64A2u1PJ5; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:01:23 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xu1F1e00k46zqiB8Pu1H0g; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:01:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72B76B.9000508@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:01:15 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:01:23 -0000 On 08/23/10 10:51, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>> The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the >>> xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: >>> >>> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 >>> >>> >> Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" > Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? > No dice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:04:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECCA1065697 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1516E8FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7NI4kV8061090; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:04:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 374F1BABA; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:04:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:04:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ed Flecko Message-ID: <20100823180446.GA36043@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:04:48 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:20:35AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own > implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree > that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree > that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that > FreeBSD! >=20 > O.K., now you've got my curiosity... >=20 > 1.) Do you agree? What is the definition of best? I've saturated a 100 Mbps network link betw= een two FreeBSD machines using nc(1) without the CPU's breaking a sweat. So it's definitely Good Enough wrt speed. And I don't see many dropped packets or errors. However it does not follow that there aren't other operating systems capable of the same. And it depends to a significant degree on the network hardware. Intel and 3= com cards tend to work much better than e.g. Realtek. And a dodgy cable will ru= in your day connection wise. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxyuD4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVKMgCdEmHr3Y9rKUp6IM4YPL1gaSff Ed0AoJfMQ45j2IDMRpzKBZCI0VP/6Uy3 =T6w3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:06:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388DC106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE1A8FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xoYJ1e0051u4NiLAAu6Wpa; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:06:30 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xu6T1e00W46zqiB8hu6VAJ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:06:30 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:06:27 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:06:31 -0000 On 08/23/10 10:59, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 1:51 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>>> The R51 should have Mobility Radeon 7500 or 9000 graphics. Here's the >>>> xorg.conf from my T42 with a 7500: >>>> >>>> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_config&config=xconfig&laptop=12947 >>>> >>>> >>> Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Section "ServerLayout" >>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" >> Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? >> > I suspect your laptop has an external connector for a second monitor. > If so, can you plug a monitor in before trying what I suggested earlier? > Too late :-) . I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD 8.1 installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD installer had no problem configuring X. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of that xorg.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:25:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A951065675 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h32.telenor.se (smtprelay-h32.telenor.se [213.150.131.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DEF8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h32.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF22E8CDD for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:25:02 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhA5ABZackxV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDF50YDAEBAQE1Las2khSBIoMicwSJEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,258,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="121572326" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 23 Aug 2010 20:25:02 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NIP0mg006654; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:25:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C72BCFC.1030106@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:25:00 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100727 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Friedemann Becker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:25:04 -0000 On 2010-08-23 19:34, Friedemann Becker wrote: > Hello, > > I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. > > I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home > that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on > musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem > for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other > stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one > day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation > image) on usb-stick. > Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, > or any hacked versions of it? > And how do turn this stick in a running system? > Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how > to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero > doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) > > Thanks in advance > Check my old message on how to do this in FreeBSD 7.2. The same instructions should work for 8.1 too, just change the version references. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201928.html /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D77106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5038FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1354518wwf.31 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=XPs4nu5BpOyJo1sd2iIGKemmWLZZrq9OLWxFOpHR1NA=; b=fPXsBX8UGNiHJer2lUAammWm0qHuVl3QZZkcXTgP1P4tgRmmGnQwu+4hhFFzRHMhlL P82JV3CIMmrPoNeKC6zsimU0NigQqRioC3VF1PVmep8ebi89RVSAXUIrI6vduaBVkSQQ 6JOEE8/3z7Cwfng7RU3RmjTZHam9/N3yyG134= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=kCDuH1BTf5BeHnlubxCkGFKaT9fbODwvhwzcvFLXtaF4z3FoqAuriozhL/ngf46zOW AlQVNR8qlmQdJCkGFVrnE2J9+8SJSdHY7bXCVS5NrdMfxDDWAQYgFA6qamWmSW54804x PCmTL0zi8I5g/nOJDcPDx7qX9khvBAmJqDAcM= Received: by 10.227.145.203 with SMTP id e11mr4891557wbv.134.1282586830755; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iac-deb.localnet ([188.33.160.151]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i14sm3720193wbe.6.2010.08.23.11.07.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Nowacki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:05:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-5-686; KDE/4.4.5; i686; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008232005.33481.poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com> Subject: How to configure ppp connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:31:30 -0000 Hello! (First of all - forgive me my language, I'am form Poland) I'am new in FreeBSD, but I have used Linux for a few year. I have got mobile modem: Huawei e1750c. As far as I know it is supported by u3g driver. On Linux I use wvdial as a dialer, and there are no problems with connection. On FreeBSD I just can't find propper ppp.conf, however I spend many hours googling and trying some. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are data needed to establish connection: ASP: "internet" user: "" password: "" phone: *99# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my wvdial (Linux) config file: Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 Baud = 57600 Init1 = ATH Init2 = ATE1 Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet" Dial Command = ATD Phone = *99# Stupid mode = yes Username = "blank" Password = "blank" Auto DNS = yes ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is one of ppp.conf I tried: default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY TIMEOUT 2 \ \"\" \ AT OK-AT-OK \ AT+CFUN=1 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CMEE=2 OK-AT-OK \ AT+CSQ OK \ AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"internet\\\" OK \ AT+CGACT? OK-AT-OK \ AT+CGATT? OK \ AT+CGCLASS? OK \ AT+COPS? OK \ ATD*99# CONNECT" set timeout 180 enable dns set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After i plug modem i got: ugen4.2: at usbus4 ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) ugen4.2: at usbus4 [b]u3g0: on usbus4 u3g0: Found 3 ports.[/b] umass0: on usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 umass1: on usbus4 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present umass1:1:1:-1: Attached to scbus1 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- when i try to use "ppp default" and then "dial" i got: # ppp default Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so Working in interactive mode Using interface: tun0 Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon ppp ON localhost> dial Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing happens, there is still no connection. Some device nodes are created after I plug a modem. There is diff result of listed /dev pre and post pluging: jakub@iac-deb:~$ diff /media/disk/pre_dev /media/disk/post_dev 17a18 > cd0 20a22,30 > cuaU0.0 > cuaU0.0.init > cuaU0.0.lock > cuaU0.1 > cuaU0.1.init > cuaU0.1.lock > cuaU0.2 > cuaU0.2.init > cuaU0.2.lock 23a34 > da0 43a55,56 > pass0 > pass1 51a65,73 > ttyU0.0 > ttyU0.0.init > ttyU0.0.lock > ttyU0.1 > ttyU0.1.init > ttyU0.1.lock > ttyU0.2 > ttyU0.2.init > ttyU0.2.lock 77a100 > ugen4.2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would be very gratefull if You could help me to configure ppp.conf. FreeBSD without internt connection is useless for me... :( Thanks, Jakub Nowacki. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 18:37:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300121065698 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51058FC1E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so5988447qwg.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:37:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lhdAoEPBLfo2ShPNHWQAqfKtro0wwswN/hT5hNFllr8=; b=UVCpuifUywqPe+4z6Inj9MnV0ZLMcX67Se9M0XyLRRqsbBxTuUozs7w0bMR4M7W0zR lQFJqNrL6ol4vSmrDSO43eK7eAfB1h9FrQ0hx+Nca3T8zPkyeXzfj0F5ar715mJtLG45 eE2GTw0zA5zGDQE3De92xCy04HrOqkpOph+oA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tyCOpmGxXUs2F/eSk7Qu+TuPCJREl5B3yig+//YiSSvkFjbwnD+WovNfLA0a7aJwxr Mjk2mR9dOYCipaRsdXkWqgNUKXtdXZhwGnpisDmiD2NhripAVPaWJinhMC2nLG7erD2m 6sY13uP/aXbAobpMabFs4dolIyJ+Fd5XppNs8= Received: by 10.229.65.159 with SMTP id j31mr3099231qci.212.1282588647890; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t18sm7368038qco.32.2010.08.23.11.37.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72BFE5.4080903@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:37:25 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Friedemann Becker References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:37:29 -0000 On 8/23/10 1:34 PM, Friedemann Becker wrote: > Hello, > > I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. > > I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home > that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on > musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem > for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other > stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one > day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation > image) on usb-stick. > Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, > or any hacked versions of it? > And how do turn this stick in a running system? > Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how > to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero > doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) > You can try UnxUtils, from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unxutils/ dd.exe is included. (I haven't tested making a bootable memory stick on a Windows machine). Regards (and let me know if it works), -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:03:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092451065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9288FC1E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0D61E97C; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:03:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7NJ3XcR003733; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:03:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:03:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jakub Nowacki Message-Id: <20100823210332.730ac8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201008232005.33481.poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com> References: <201008232005.33481.poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to configure ppp connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:03:36 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:05:32 +0200, Jakub Nowacki wrote: > Hello! > > (First of all - forgive me my language, I'am form Poland) Dobre. :-) > I'am new in FreeBSD, but I have used Linux for a few year. As a first note, know that FreeBSD has *excellent* manpages. Know the "apropos" and "man" commands, as they will always help you. > I have got mobile modem: Huawei e1750c. As far as I know it is supported by > u3g driver. On Linux I use wvdial as a dialer, and there are no problems with > connection. On FreeBSD I just can't find propper ppp.conf, however I spend many > hours googling and trying some. You don't need google as a means of OS documentation. :-) First, check /etc/ppp/ppp.conf which is the PPP configuration file. Also, read "man ppp". I have used ppp.conf in the past for dealing with PPPoE, and it worked without any problems. > when i try to use "ppp default" and then "dial" i got: You should define your own label for the connection in ppp.conf, e. g. the name of the provider (doesn't have to be very verbose). > # ppp default > Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon > Warning: Bad label in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line 2) - missing colon Check those. > ppp ON localhost> dial > Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor > Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor PPP tries to access regular serial lines. > Nothing happens, there is still no connection. Sorry, I don't know enough about wireless network to be more specific, but allow me this guess: If your connection requires PPPoE, you could code something like this: blah: set device PPPoE: set authname set authkey set dial set login add default HISADDR Then, "ppp blah" would be used for manual dialing. I'm not sure in how far you are required to code AT dialing sequences. > Some device nodes are created after I plug a modem. There is diff result > of listed /dev pre and post pluging: > jakub@iac-deb:~$ diff /media/disk/pre_dev /media/disk/post_dev > 17a18 > > cd0 > 20a22,30 > > cuaU0.0 > > cuaU0.0.init > > cuaU0.0.lock > > cuaU0.1 > > cuaU0.1.init > > cuaU0.1.lock > > cuaU0.2 > > cuaU0.2.init > > cuaU0.2.lock > 23a34 > > da0 > 43a55,56 > > pass0 > > pass1 > 51a65,73 > > ttyU0.0 > > ttyU0.0.init > > ttyU0.0.lock > > ttyU0.1 > > ttyU0.1.init > > ttyU0.1.lock > > ttyU0.2 > > ttyU0.2.init > > ttyU0.2.lock > 77a100 > > ugen4.2 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I would be very gratefull if You could help me to configure ppp.conf. The ttyU* and cuaU* devices obviously belong to the modem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:08:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0F106566C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECB18FC20 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NJ8OPr088840; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NJ8Odh088837; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-275750825-1282590504=:88832" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:08:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-275750825-1282590504=:88832 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Section "Device" >         Identifier  "Card0" >         Driver      "intel" >         VendorName  "Intel Corporation" >         BoardName   "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >         BusID       "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Device" >         Identifier  "Card1" >         Driver      "intel" >         VendorName  "Intel Corporation" >         BoardName   "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >         BusID       "PCI:0:2:1" > EndSection Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. ---902635197-275750825-1282590504=:88832-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:11:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E4710656A4 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1598FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NJBYOX088868; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NJBY2C088865; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-608259724-1282590694=:88832" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:11:36 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-608259724-1282590694=:88832 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD 8.1 > installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD installer had > no problem configuring X.  Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of that > xorg.conf. PCBSD has a live mode to run without installing. Boot into that and copy the xorg.conf to external media. ---902635197-608259724-1282590694=:88832-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:14:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D81065785 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377D08FC17 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so2675208pxi.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tY1XWsdDovri4ZHtLiMGSE7Z95BH0NeqqEm4X+zCBI8=; b=CUL5KaRepc4Oy6tCMkYmyXxRuVV5IUR7Tl0awJL8BcqoHZfendsEWrIQj2wAiw/ue8 1RNvWXqKWlD+Iq0Gy4b6uWPzc2K4XUmw3kJRm/5D64NSl/zDzvS0iE/dgavFGaBbd2dv AUqQJGdBiG+O1eg9r6WKRnLYbUnLI12AKXDhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rbHO21QbEaPFFFow5WfVW5sDA7elZ3f55Fbcx/z1uyfGT0j09rOi0zwjGRAPAZzmTj 2OvKQANte60Qbjnb+jQNIqMm7coZuxvn8M2NXcEfWg29ZckaQdZOAP5td1TzW8Gn3ByX XjSu4waeRpkBg6IaT/xfGDo9elyCztmLK/N/c= Received: by 10.114.93.10 with SMTP id q10mr6462244wab.130.1282590858937; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s29sm1977424vcr.23.2010.08.23.12.14.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72C888.6060007@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:14:16 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:14:21 -0000 On 8/23/10 3:08 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "intel" >> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >> BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card1" >> Driver "intel" >> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >> BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >> BusID "PCI:0:2:1" >> EndSection > > Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two > video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. > I wonder what's listed in the BIOS. Rem, can you check if there is more than one display adapter listed there? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:15:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5391065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C99F8FC23 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0906A1DE3F; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7NJFUbN003772; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:15:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:15:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20100823211530.4ca16f22.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:33 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two > video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be > misdetected. Doesn't have to be - maybe it's one VGA and one DVI output? It's also possible that a DVI output can be controlled via the chipset used, but isn't present as an actual connector. My good (really!) old ATI Radeon 9200 shows up similarly: Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card1" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (Secondary)" BusID "PCI:1:0:1" Screen 1 EndSection Note the different BusID. A similar mentioning should happen in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:15:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1761065710 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65818FC21 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NJFc1p088890; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:15:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NJFc5S088887; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:15:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:15:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <4C72B76B.9000508@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B76B.9000508@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:15:41 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > On 08/23/10 10:51, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 1:44 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > Here is the xorg.conf that was created by Xorg -configure: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" > > Hmmm.. What happens if you disable Screen 1 ? > > No dice. Okay, steps to try: 1. Rename xorg.conf and try without it. If it works, you're done. 2. Delete Monitor 1 and one of the Device sections. Not sure which, but it's 50/50. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 19:21:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6852F106566B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD7F8FC12 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3793019fxm.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=F+t5ZAySiiq+PpvtRYqkrGFHELCTgj+tMqrU/YUcHUM=; b=G1Z0g26HDRd/yAH8oLoHz8XZq7aGw3rVQ2cea/FRMCydyCKwp8pt3qtyqV1nHO6NLI LPzCd3kAa6LiCn3J5d6yO0wciPhEm9FAVTcIS+qluWKibjggQL5ky2IRS/QduagvcaQa vtEsuH2MS+6AvDQzJqVrbnnY8i8Iz21BttziU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=B2HQSFYa37x1iBUEyUesx8Dz5UNEcQa5Qjl9khvPBH22/tsqtwDFzD6tNqefDmGaIC ek5UqAi7MgYkMOfjg5yxcuXUgvFw0LnlExElpNf7LttsvF5IjWTuxqoUtRJyRTTvk+41 0z7yrsxT3yAyyn+cg/BjU486fWT8yUzf6g2bE= Received: by 10.216.38.84 with SMTP id z62mr2958692wea.70.1282591309846; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iac-deb.localnet ([188.33.160.151]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r18sm3909340weo.0.2010.08.23.12.21.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Nowacki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-5-686; KDE/4.4.5; i686; ; ) References: <201008232005.33481.poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com> <20100823210332.730ac8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100823210332.730ac8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201008232120.17317.poczta.jnowacki@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to configure ppp connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:21:51 -0000 Dnia poniedzia=B3ek, 23 sierpnia 2010 o 21:03:32 Polytropon napisa=B3(a): >=20 > > ppp ON localhost> dial > > Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad1: Bad file descriptor > > Warning: deflink: /dev/cuad0: Bad file descriptor >=20 > PPP tries to access regular serial lines. >=20 > > Nothing happens, there is still no connection. >=20 > Sorry, I don't know enough about wireless network to be more specific, > but allow me this guess: If your connection requires PPPoE, you could > code something like this: >=20 > blah: > set device PPPoE: > set authname > set authkey > set dial > set login > add default HISADDR >=20 > Then, "ppp blah" would be used for manual dialing. I'm not sure in how > far you are required to code AT dialing sequences. >=20 It's broadband, mobile (celluar?) connection via Play (www.playmobile.pl) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 20:22:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793B71065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1699E8FC1B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so2713048gwj.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:22:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s5lUVEyALF/q4N+mCPqqXoOx3r+uNUIlwFPeeWq5j1o=; b=rJk8s5f6aUBWzoDElv0gybehBk8SmP1uUY1VxWCzGOz/KkOAgaJ/Q64+l/lhANs8m0 gdXoX8CCJb8j7doFZac+3IzhGc6/Ir7WSxTfAa5LM5Uvx0oTGe6AgR3ZpH9+ucMga1mh d781e4TpoaLDbTJIII0jSQB3b6D58IV93ZDv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SqTi45soNYUPA1JaIKLQ/Z1OZlRx63aE1xoCuCAVrFcCYYYOtGSo5Yur//P+NO5gU9 Q6H5wf8/XucujtCwzAzhjORL/iaVnZ42MR3XzhhhiNXKPROBIRVOekz6+1A9Bu/JGz+p n5rLMKzQmiQUf2pqiOJVsI3pwLdJZJ8T1a/MQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.63.30 with SMTP id q30mr5960534ybk.154.1282594965802; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.145.21 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:22:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100823180446.GA36043@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100823180446.GA36043@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:22:47 -0000 Thanks Roland, The books that I have refer to the "efficiency" of the stack. Perhaps that's what the authors are referring to as you've referenced being able to saturate a link with traffic and there's little, if any, dropped packets? Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 20:23:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0669D10656AB for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2A8FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NKNPBb089123; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:23:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NKNPSo089120; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:23:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:23:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100823211530.4ca16f22.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <20100823211530.4ca16f22.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:23:30 -0000 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two >> video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be >> misdetected. > > Doesn't have to be - maybe it's one VGA and one DVI output? It's also > possible that a DVI output can be controlled via the chipset used, > but isn't present as an actual connector. > > My good (really!) old ATI Radeon 9200 shows up similarly: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "ati" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > Screen 0 > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card1" > Driver "ati" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (Secondary)" > BusID "PCI:1:0:1" > Screen 1 > EndSection > > Note the different BusID. A similar mentioning should happen in > /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Maybe it's the older cards. ISTR seeing that before, but it's been a long time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 20:30:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9821065674 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tbcrew@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04A48FC1A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1502467wwf.31 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:30:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=4lglZJ3dA0bbce+tZZdylzIlIUZvA6xC95ZA+GKipoc=; b=SHxqRCRD5NAkCLIG3AVbJY4DzgXs6SnUKEd/GmvzCVftcXzxojnfPXPdcuAoMhURDb 3EUw0dLC+KcSeBq5eFSfXb7byYWhoudkL80AI8B6BKLGA8yRk7bH7xkKd9bma8xLwTxj BDnomflGzBFD8HjA9G2Oh3QGCN8BuQsEiHcGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=ufycDO4tT1ib5Pmw1iUG5Zxu2aVATRLNAiiEsU375DwwFhKYv/f9dPyqYz4bc3IhOe 7/WeXGEiJB/iMttIrQ5LJA8ZSyBS3jr3Un5P4qWXOBJAOs58+CGhBU73JzuU/7ezGYuG USQdnpqMtA98zYAH3Hd0YJ441V54Ug1DTrdLQ= Received: by 10.216.174.67 with SMTP id w45mr3003385wel.78.1282593862849; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mine (i-195-137-12-155.freedom2surf.net [195.137.12.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm3940360wej.2.2010.08.23.13.04.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Garry" To: References: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:04:21 +0100 Message-ID: <038601cb42fe$6134ae80$239e0b80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActCccJfzBNhPC0tQt63/I7O1p6hMQAiwwzA Content-Language: en-gb Cc: Subject: RE: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:30:25 -0000 Thank you all for your replies. The information I posted to you all was NOT my opinion or statement. I use and like FreeBSD more than windows having been introduced to it by a friend some years ago. I was and am most certainly NOT trolling, I merely did not know how much truth was in the statement that it was anything to do with Apple. In fact the message I sent was quoted from the original sender to me an Mr Oliver Stiebel when I asked him what BSD had to do with Apple. When he originally sent me this message I wouldn't recommend Apple to anyone. in response to my message. Linux Oliver !, lets at least go for one of the BSD flavours. Personally I prefer FreeBSD. Thank you for your help. I am willing to send a single person on this list a copy of the original email as I received as proof of this conversation, I have no wish to be considered a troll on this group. As I said I had no knowledge of Apple having anything to do with BSD and so asked for clarifications sake for myself. Garry -----Original Message----- From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@hiwaay.net] Sent: 23 August 2010 04:18 To: Garry Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this bunk. On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: > This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this > as twaddle. > > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple hired a lot of key people from the FreeBSD project. I don't know just what comes back to FreeBSD out of Apple but suspect the reason you and myself don't know is that Apple doesn't care to toot their own horn. Apple made a significant contribution a while back testing and improving NFS. As for how much of MacOS X is BSD, pretty much all of the command line stuff. Apple has gone to great lengths to XML-ize most everything so while MacOS is BSD, its probably the most distant BSD cousin. > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. NT 3.51 used to flash a Berkeley Software Distribution copyright message on the text console during boot because some code was used. Doubt MS could leave well enough alone to simply lift the entire stack. The VMS-inspired NT kernel was probably not organized in such a way as to optimally use an unmodified BSD network protocol stack. > So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, > or filing bugs or whatever. > (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as > well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) > > Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied > in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support > software developed under such licenses. So why are you here? Trolling? It bugs the heck out of some people when others manage to build on their work to make something better, and then not give it away to everyone else. Others realize that if what we do is truly useful then others will want to use it to build bigger and better things. That it doesn't matter if we sell our work or give it away, what others do with it is no skin off our noses. Our original work is still exactly as accessible as it was before others made something more of their own version of it. > Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple > done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. > So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD > license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most > significantly Apple. Thats one of the big problems of the GPL-mindset. Seems they spend a whole lot more time cloning the work of others than in actually creating anything new. > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. There is nothing in the BSD license permitting a "hostile takeover." Some would claim FreeBSD has executed a "hostile takeover" of what it is to be BSD. The pre-FreeBSD code is out there, you are welcome to it. Some would say OpenBSD attempted a hostile takeover of BSD. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 20:51:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901151065696 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723628FC16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xvuE1e0091ZMdJ4A9wrt49; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:53 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xwrq1e00A46zqiB8cwrrMG; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72DF66.5000909@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:51:50 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72C888.6060007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72C888.6060007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:53 -0000 On 08/23/10 12:14, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 3:08 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> >>> Section "Device" >>> Identifier "Card0" >>> Driver "intel" >>> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >>> BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >>> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Device" >>> Identifier "Card1" >>> Driver "intel" >>> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >>> BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" >>> BusID "PCI:0:2:1" >>> EndSection >> Interesting, two device sections. Some notebooks actually do have two >> video cards, although the R51 might not and this might just be misdetected. >> > I wonder what's listed in the BIOS. Rem, can you check if there is more > than one display adapter listed there? > Interesting. The bios indicates two boot display devices, ThinkPad LCD, and Analog (VGA). There is actually a third choice, both. The bios defaults to ThinkPad LCD. 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Connor Burke Computer Software Professional Austin, Texas Area Computer Software Industry cwburke@gmail.com To view Connor Burke's profile, go to http://www.linkedin.com/e/fiopes-gd7titd1-6g/fpf/17644572/EML-inv-acc-prof/ ---------------------------------------------- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:10:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8991065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=844764b52=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B268FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:10:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At4FAIx8ckyBbgogUmdsb2JhbACgRQEkQb1lhTcEhDU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,259,1280725200"; d="scan'208";a="36405110" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Aug 2010 15:50:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:50:54 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <4D47F011BCB8F123288A2CEE@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <868w40izhk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <23BA961B74BA2B5CA8B523F9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <868w40izhk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Any awk gurus on the list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:10:20 -0000 --On Friday, August 20, 2010 17:24:55 -0700 "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote: >>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Schmehl writes: > > Paul> Yes, I know I could do this easily in Perl. I'm doing this to try > Paul> and improve my understanding of awk. > > To what end? > > Every modern system that can run awk can also run Perl. Why not > concentrate on Perl? Three reasons. Perl is too easy (for this particular problem.) :-) Perl isn't part of the base system for FreeBSD. # ls -lsa /usr/bin/perl 0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25 Jul 29 22:53 /usr/bin/perl -> /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.1 # ls -lsa /usr/bin/awk 134 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 135472 Jul 4 2008 /usr/bin/awk It never hurts to learn new things, especially things that might get you out of a jam when a system isn't working as expected and you have access to a limited number of tools to solve the problem. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:20:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065311065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7A58FC24 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xq2b1e0031eYJf8ABxLbG2; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:35 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xxLY1e00D46zqiB01xLZG0; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:20:32 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:20:36 -0000 On 08/23/10 12:11, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> I forgot to mention that previous to my installing 8.1 I had PCBSD >> 8.1 installed just to check it out (no likee), and the PCBSD >> installer had no problem configuring X. Unfortunately, I don't have >> a copy of that xorg.conf. > > PCBSD has a live mode to run without installing. Boot into that and > copy the xorg.conf to external media. I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:34:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614C310656A5 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180258FC20 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7NLY8We091920; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:34:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7NLY84A091917; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:34:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:34:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1123480751-1282599248=:91902" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:34:11 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1123480751-1282599248=:91902 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > I forgot.  The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad > was the legacy version.  The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't > install.  The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as > happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration in the Device section: Option "NoAccel" "On" ---902635197-1123480751-1282599248=:91902-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 21:51:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13D9106567A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A571D8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xpF11e0030QkzPwAAxrCj9; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:12 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xxrA1e00746zqiB8NxrBqH; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:11 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:51:09 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:51:13 -0000 On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> >> I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad >> was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't >> install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as >> happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 > > No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration > in the Device section: > > Option "NoAccel" "On" Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 22:32:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE221065694 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAEB8FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so6570287vws.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QbM8csx0tDK7F0Ot+pQNxUC8daIzdXb0JuqBRY4lwoM=; b=Bkyb2PMJaxZ2DnKlnOSc3lrI42itPRVPuXIdcLmHfzSzZIV2rRGL2MayE5p/T0ETKj 0F7HKSZ4Tqp8eeWerXkN2B0e0+F4NCV01NDU2AFYLgcuBdV+KIkjhofPSvkutPbrisle Lx7FHJ99IUXQw36PEqOgIOSLDY/e+mIgDJflQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ONY/ff7iDga+6/mOByCA4qzqz84oIdl5IdH7vM2VeNHAfZLYlk98Vul7y5DOvAWWqG L5S2lH9Wxc50w2XW1DFb6ceQaPniWXdeAvyfa730X3AdNxIhscI7/9NNmmlRstmTFYGH t4RpTe43j1UNBzwtJYqGmcsMaxAOsaWf0eCwQ= Received: by 10.220.128.16 with SMTP id i16mr3592591vcs.270.1282602719993; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm2090694vcm.31.2010.08.23.15.31.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:31:56 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:32:01 -0000 On 8/23/10 5:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>> >>> I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad >>> was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't >>> install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as >>> happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 >> >> No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration >> in the Device section: >> >> Option "NoAccel" "On" > > Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like > this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install > 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. > Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:01:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2528A1065672 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077998FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xqBP1e0021wfjNsA9z1Phg; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:01:23 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xz1L1e00R46zqiB8jz1Nx3; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:01:23 +0000 Message-ID: <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:01:20 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:01:24 -0000 On 08/23/10 15:31, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 5:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> On 08/23/10 14:34, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>>> I forgot. The version of PCBSD that I had installed on the Thinkpad >>>> was the legacy version. The latest version, PCBSD 8.1, won't >>>> install. The screen goes blank and the computer freezes, just as >>>> happens when trying to install X11 with FreeBSD 8.1 >>> No real idea what to try next, so let's try turning off acceleration >>> in the Device section: >>> >>> Option "NoAccel" "On" >> Nope. BTW, thanks for hanging in here. I've never had trouble like >> this getting X11 to function. Of course, I've never tried to install >> 8.1 on a Thinkpad either. >> > Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you > [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? > I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. > No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:09:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14BB1065673 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB928FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.69.172.31] ([202.69.172.31]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:09:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4C72FF9B.7050503@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:09:15 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Friedemann Becker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2010 23:09:18.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[367FC390:01CB4318] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:09:18 -0000 Friedemann Becker wrote: > Hello, > > I have some questions about an installation on a memorystick. > > I have (a few weeks still) a very poor internet connection at home > that's unusable for anything beyond email. I tried some hacking on > musescore (yes I know that it can't work, but that's not my problem > for now). Since I don't want to carry missing ports/packages/other > stuff around on a stick everytime I miss something - which takes one > day each - i would like to have a working system (not installation > image) on usb-stick. > Can i use fdimage with the memorystick installation image on windows, > or any hacked versions of it? > And how do turn this stick in a running system? > Or is there any kind of live-stick-images out there, and if it is, how > to move these on the stick (since windows is missing dd and nero > doesn't like burning sticks :-) ) > > Thanks in advance > http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4389 https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:33:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5162C1065693 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2318FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so3516541qyk.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fwdtjLri9gfDF3UbOA0ZrNSMtIkpYVaE8TOYEf0zvLU=; b=iUyWag8gLki4zaKZT+82yiFLVMTmKV9n/QBNpUGyb3IXkwPeCw1nhbArJkf7o67oos sBn+y61hf4MauCVFjvy0y8DtpsnhvMKvoPbyEp1HXAV45+NX1Hg9qehzoOORwj5umr+4 MzbJQo9BxrPT5joe3l6OM43ZBdbyDUDo9s0E8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=biaZ+Z+xd+EGEGOlqSLbPoIjPd3/oHcI8iDogPWevSV7zpDRs3fy4aOeJ/Qi9yb8Zp +24rrHraFcIEhyuzf8rn7XAaO1SISXy03K1IEUXCHz9TjYsTlKkSEau5qwCG2QvA2+Bc W94mBReOSa8gUgn71/iHoylB0Pup56pT5TQ/0= Received: by 10.229.213.199 with SMTP id gx7mr4190920qcb.141.1282606392071; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local ([204.108.237.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r36sm7706925qcs.15.2010.08.23.16.33.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:33:09 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:33:13 -0000 On 8/23/10 7:01 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you >> [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? >> I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. >> > > No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no > keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the > on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. > In your xorg.conf, switch 'Driver "intel"' to 'Driver "vesa"', and see if it hangs with that. In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you get set up, but the gory details are here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html First, let's try the "vesa" thing. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:40:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A231065675 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CB08FC18 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so6252025qwg.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:40:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MtJBXMZxcmkUZ+yMLNHFahEAKwYHadYOgchW74X0dJ0=; b=bRvmGEcxptOM0HZIbV9c4xVVy7XoQJyZaZgsuOHzVgJ9kSgbuygNfu94qoXhweSICI ZjRQNDhmYymm8fdufCLtnIBpqKY4hda0Fmr82rgW/3AgCnpAHxyybc4y+1bn1LtzYGIT 6oLMxBlafqDw+q6vbZGiv1o8ayP+nmYoMLqgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ahdsxTpIY/6MJwje3/MzU1am/rmvdhDsXsc9eZhnBl+4EnJTRMcOy0oIMEWhDk9K+o lz0iHxnLZUDKNGNPuklpgS5ofZYMj6vixUl6CPDoNF0AJe9A2RIPnsReBEpIeKpUvTmI GgyRt//5Y0v7I0Pu0Pw+3fTi6Yvv1noO3BKN0= Received: by 10.229.238.8 with SMTP id kq8mr1988444qcb.157.1282606805960; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local ([204.108.237.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm7712583qcs.45.2010.08.23.16.40.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C7306D3.2070903@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:40:03 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:40:07 -0000 On 8/23/10 7:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your > GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you > get set up, I should mention, though - I used to have issues with the nVidia driver putting my machine in an unusable state, similar to what you are describing. Though the more recent versions of that driver seem to have mostly fixed my issues, it still gives intermittent problems. As a result, I have since been using the Xorg nv driver. What made the problem worse is that I couldn't get any debugging information, no matter what debugging options I had built into the kernel. Just mentioning this in case you _are_ willing to do this. In my case, I wasn't able to grab anything useful. (By the way, does anything except 'minfree' exist in /var/crash ?) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:53:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E961065674 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E13C8FC0A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xxFp1e00517UAYkA4ztAPX; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:53:10 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xzt71e00P46zqiB8Zzt8wL; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:53:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4C7309E3.50202@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:53:07 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:53:11 -0000 On 08/23/10 16:33, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 7:01 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>> Ok, one quick question. When your screen goes blank, can you >>> [ctrl][alt][fN] to a different TTY, where N is anything between 2-7? >>> I'm curious about the machine's state when you start X. >>> >> No, when the screen goes blank the whole computer freezes. No mouse, no >> keyboard. And I also noticed that the wireless indicator freezes in the >> on position. Everything stops dead its tracks. >> > In your xorg.conf, switch 'Driver "intel"' to 'Driver "vesa"', and see > if it hangs with that. > > In addition, it might be helpful to build debugging options into your > GENERIC kernel. If you're willing to go down this path, I'll help you > get set up, but the gory details are here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html > > First, let's try the "vesa" thing. > Eureka! I changed Driver to "vesa" in both of the "Device" sections and X now loads. I doubt that "vesa" is the ideal entry in the configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 23:59:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1631065697 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC0D8FC08 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so3534345qyk.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cYQ6MbQ36GZ26IHZ2zvhOiXT6O4uXeGIJ/S5g3a9arw=; b=qkke6eTPAMf79rGXJ/XESmN43z83+ZduDt8g7L/tNTQOnAxiUTbRVtxJl5jprvJWb9 S62RidEHtlmoKNH/dRZ251JkUwwugQygyETL8Q/cGzNSm//r9v0MjYqYjPxuInOvFT++ jeM1pQiMr9yAhqt+p8BF0gxcDbDBWt6ncgN9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=w9qjeafUm9xsoKKYlwy52Kp/daHP6lnY/R48i8RaeZQNYi6apKWRUVCVas5VW97GJK RKOzTAXO/fMmkPiQAv+qh9/V+ITGZelUsNV0Q83tblItMSFzKtvg5P9eAd+fC+DuUaqU Da7yHOq1sO0VUDViMt5RGVwijnbCgppOsdQ8Q= Received: by 10.224.115.17 with SMTP id g17mr3883570qaq.245.1282607990897; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local ([204.108.237.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l8sm7741067qck.6.2010.08.23.16.59.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C730B74.3080103@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:59:48 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rem P Roberti References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> <4C7309E3.50202@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C7309E3.50202@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:59:52 -0000 On 8/23/10 7:53 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >> First, let's try the "vesa" thing. >> > > Eureka! I changed Driver to "vesa" in both of the "Device" sections and > X now loads. I doubt that "vesa" is the ideal entry in the > configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. > Great. It looks like the intel driver is the problem then. vesa will work, but I'd expect it will perform suboptimal, comparatively. Are you interested in helping find out what the real problem is? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 00:04:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68941065672 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D668FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xuHB1e0021bwxycA304nZ9; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:04:47 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id y04l1e00446zqiB8e04mFQ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:04:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4C730C9C.2000506@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:04:44 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C72977B.9060104@comcast.net> <4C72B37D.2020504@comcast.net> <4C72B51C.8020901@gmail.com> <4C72B6EE.6050205@gmail.com> <4C72B8A3.2@comcast.net> <4C72E620.8070007@comcast.net> <4C72ED4D.9060909@comcast.net> <4C72F6DC.1040009@gmail.com> <4C72FDC0.5080308@comcast.net> <4C730535.8080707@gmail.com> <4C7309E3.50202@comcast.net> <4C730B74.3080103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C730B74.3080103@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Xorg Redux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:04:47 -0000 On 08/23/10 16:59, Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/23/10 7:53 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: >>> First, let's try the "vesa" thing. >>> >> Eureka! I changed Driver to "vesa" in both of the "Device" sections and >> X now loads. I doubt that "vesa" is the ideal entry in the >> configuration, but at this point I'm not going to complain. >> > Great. It looks like the intel driver is the problem then. vesa will > work, but I'd expect it will perform suboptimal, comparatively. Are you > interested in helping find out what the real problem is? > Definitely! I have time on my hands, and I love learning about this system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 00:45:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748E81065674 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from depocatcher@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B268FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so7005436iwn.13 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:45:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DIUj5gpGMQ+MTRiASfPQLEkVRP+2wCEmozcBcroA7BE=; b=Ho1lGPo9B8wkf+BqwVDWd77DDUz/ubxu+Bnj9E47UspgHG61anF36JrwZpwG1h1S80 vWVgtSOxjwaKJ4+pW7+6ATE4vfFkUdSUPJZySaj7AnuuZ/iFgyCuaTmSfUi6XE8S7JZo BPHp15H2GHXw7NGHcyNQY2nInZ5sG/kGEoMvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UEzOg/wm84rISrTBzO1T1DFZv9JYZDC+Uae6eMjrk0ZT8+MvvRoy6lz9SCjYDopiyF qbjytEpWPpi8QIaE4tI5pQDq8IDISZVGiMztHKWuQMLPjZvpELJbAJtI4T5BITCHtCC0 h4wSnPGRjy9vqiZ35uqJSW4V3W+vrLruylK8M= Received: by 10.231.30.68 with SMTP id t4mr2211933ibc.129.1282610705668; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.17.10] (c-98-240-166-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.166.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm6709430iba.6.2010.08.23.17.45.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C731625.4070300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:45:25 -0500 From: Depo Catcher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: depocatcher@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:45:09 -0000 On 8/23/2010 11:20 AM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I have several networking books (TCP/IP, Network Security, etc., etc.) > and it seems that several of them discuss TCP/IP in different > scenarios. > > One of the common discussions of different OSes are their own > implementations of the TCP/IP stack. Most of the authors seem to agree > that while different OSes have their pros and cons, most seem to agree > that in terms of pure, network performance, no OS is better that > FreeBSD! > > O.K., now you've got my curiosity... > > 1.) Do you agree? > > 2.) What makes the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack so much better and or > different than other OSes??? > > 3.) Are there any good resources (URLs, books, etc.) that highlight > the differences??? > > Thank you, > Ed 1: I don't know if I would call it the best without more details or some benchmarks. Also really depends on your criteria for "best" really is. That's a pretty general remark. The only info I could find are some old ones, but only tests a few things network wise: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ 2: Again, I don't know if it's better; but it's been around awhile and has been very stable and robust in my personal experience. 3: Sorry, I couldn't find much on google except what I posted above. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 03:29:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4961065696 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4797F8FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29580 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2010 03:29:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2010 03:29:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=B9Iq8xsHAFh2m5G3nDEvyrArETulMCxwZ4IOk3L2yOug/nPwVsdyKEmWEL7jSatAxZO1LNcpMNXL4bsygRenffHlELUK2vRz9MBqH3nRhxL0aEeZbtw8Zg327RAylS8l; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnkCq-0000t3-LB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:29:49 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:27:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:27:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100824032710.GC65931@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:29:50 -0000 --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps they rely on the opinions of other OSes' developers -- many of whom have borrowed FreeBSD TCP/IP code to bootstrap their own network stacks. Of course, I think a number of factors contribute to this without necessarily proving it is the technical "best": * BSD Unix was first out the gate in the race to TCP/IP. * FreeBSD uses the BSD License, which makes its code easy to reuse. * Developers for the various open source BSD Unix systems tend to have a high regard for "correctness". * I haven't looked at it personally, but have heard that FreeBSD's TCP/IP stack source code is quite clean and readable -- and therefore easily reused. There may be other reasons involved. FreeBSD does tend to rate fairly well in network performance benchmarks, by the way, but those benchmarks are not typically tuned for testing the TCP/IP stack *specifically*, from what I've seen. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxzPA4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUB5QCgk79OzE/+4v6hkfHtm4zT4YoX aWkAoKQXAzaIUtrTPPS0ym0ZHuVzVxF5 =U5HK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 05:03:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AAD10656A3 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259288FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Onlf7-00029T-Ek for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:03:05 -0700 Message-ID: <29518731.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: jaymax To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jaymax36@gmail.com Subject: Telnet Secure login SRA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:03:06 -0000 I've just reset my telnet setup, now it comes up with a SRA secure login prompt, how can I get rid of it. I'm just using it for a short while to troubleshoot another installation, Qmail. telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Trying SRA secure login: User (UserName): Then if I do telnet local host 25 ==> telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Don't know if the SRA prompt is impeding the connection to the port -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Telnet-Secure-login-SRA--tp29518731p29518731.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 06:28:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F80E10656A6 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F06C8FC1E for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o7O6SqDO048711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:28:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7O6SqK0069802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:28:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o7O6SqoZ069801; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:28:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:28:51 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: jaymax Message-ID: <20100824062851.GA73051@dan.emsphone.com> References: <29518731.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29518731.post@talk.nabble.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:28:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnet Secure login SRA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:28:56 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 23), jaymax said: > I've just reset my telnet setup, now it comes up with a SRA secure login > prompt, how can I get rid of it. I'm just using it for a short while to > troubleshoot another installation, Qmail. > > telnet localhost > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > Trying SRA secure login: > User (UserName): SRA is a login sequence that encrypts the password (something that regular telnet doesn't do). It's only is activated if the other end advertises itself as a telnet server. > Then if I do > > telnet local host 25 > ==> > telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host That means that whatever was listening on port 25 reset the connection. > Don't know if the SRA prompt is impeding the connection to the port It isn't. Say, didn't I answer a similar question a week ago? Hm. Looks like you responded but I never saw the response. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-August/220263.html Looking at that tcpdump output, it looks like qmail accepted the connection then immediately dropped it. You'll have to look at your qmail logs to find out why. If it's not generating logs, try running truss or ktrace on the listening process to see if it's crashing on you before it has a change to log anything. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 08:42:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD9106567A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7187F8FC0A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Onp5O-0003Hk-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:42:26 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7O8gQr3002196 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:42:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7O8gQTh002195 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:42:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:42:26 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:42:29 -0000 El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 02:31:08PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live > > CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current > > system. Any objectives with this? Thx > > > > matthias > > > > This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the > exact opposite with great success: > > I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped > the partitions and restored on real hardware. > Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. I have produced three dumps: from the /, /var and /usr file system. The man page of restore(8) reads about creating pristine file system, made by newfs(8). Later, in the VM environment, I'd like to have only one big file system... Is it possible to restore the tree dumps into one big file system or do I have to rebuild the same slicing as I now have? In the original posting I was asking for some kind of benchmark tool in the ports, to compare current and VM disk i/o... any hits? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 09:44:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CE2106566B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7651B8FC0A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-18-76-18.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.76.18]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100824094456H0100dmvc4e>; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:44:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.76.18] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:09 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:44:57 -0000 What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got "unsupported inode size" when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got "Bad file descriptor" when trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount and read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save), the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rather than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet. Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be for data as opposed to Linux installation. There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject "Re: External HD", that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). 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music=2E It refers primarily to an almost excessive feeling o= f joy, but for me the more important aspect that connects it to these son= gs is that sense of being consumed by an emotion; that sense of an unstop= pable, volcanic, up-rushing of passion, that exhilarating but tantalising= feeling you get when you are experiencing something that cannot be expre= ssed in mere language, nor even mere music=2E =0D=0A=0D=0AAnybody can wri= te a song about love=2E Not anybody can make you feel love, feel loss, fe= el pain, feel desire, feel ecstasy=2E Not anybody can make you feel eupho= ria=2E Billy Franks can=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AChristopher Brookmyre=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 10:10:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B9810656A8 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087EA8FC1B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4362424.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.168]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7OAA06Z002547; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:10:00 +0300 Message-ID: <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:10:00 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on Windows host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:10:03 -0000 On 24/08/2010 11:42 Ï€.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, August 23, 2010 a las 02:31:08PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > >>> Once having setup VMware (workstation), I plan to boot from FreeBSD live >>> CD, create the slices big enough and fill in the dumps of my current >>> system. Any objectives with this? Thx >>> >>> matthias >>> >>> >> This should work nicely. In fact, in one of my recent projects I did the >> exact opposite with great success: >> >> I installed and configured a full system on Vmware Workstation, dumped >> the partitions and restored on real hardware. >> Saved me countless hours and had the school lab running in less than a day. >> > I have produced three dumps: from the /, /var and /usr file system. The > man page of restore(8) reads about creating pristine file system, made > by newfs(8). Later, in the VM environment, I'd like to have only one big > file system... Is it possible to restore the tree dumps into one big > file system or do I have to rebuild the same slicing as I now have? > You won't have to rebuild the slicing. Just create the relevant directories in your big file system, cd into them and use restore. > In the original posting I was asking for some kind of benchmark tool in > the ports, to compare current and VM disk i/o... any hits? Thanks > > matthias > Sorry I have no hard evidence on that. FWIW, virtual desktop systems running on core2duo class machines feel very fast and responsive. Definitely faster than my Atom 330 (dual core) running FreeBSD natively. There are lots of benchmarks in ports/benchmarks, some of them may be useful. I've used bonnie / bonnie++ in the past, but I am never certain I can interpret the results in a meaningful way. The base system gstat could also prove useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 10:32:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08511065675 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701318FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so6635340qwg.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:32:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=/wu/xfsndONcrprXvaoRTaxBOHpKLBCzfV7lJfbiWh4=; b=NTLXagqZDB+dd10xJLr6T0TFjSa3Wskn3QGbNBE4QMfWy8NsxwHECV4hmdaJh+e50d uFgHF/d4lbJegfiJGhtm9Fqi0GEHAx5eozAVdYbMIn8VYqE/q7bCad0RNpUjDGfb/7mH 4eCExBswqIrON5k+S+VSUibaFIlgy49jlY51I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=SVkhb5VW6utn6z8ZcnKrO1p5LUt4CJhPHpDG++P5GaUww/eJUbqQuUGMEYoTSR52de +Iz9UxoA0PoIygHkMxqrg6NApjPwQVYdU3KsVJdavviS28IWeO8KXtacMXIDwpSImaFq xNoi4ThDfWEYKVnrr/UeT9Rgi4zzRrFpLoPkk= Received: by 10.229.141.75 with SMTP id l11mr3358069qcu.154.1282645956334; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:32:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.217.21 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:32:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:32:06 +0200 Message-ID: To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:32:38 -0000 the problem is not which version of mkfs (ext2fs) you use. the problem is that BSD only handle ext2fs partitions with 128b inodes, while default value is 256. when running mkfs/newfs, be sure to specify -I 128 also, I won't recommand ntfs. but, ntfs "works" correctly under BSD and Linux. so, if you just want the partition to be read/writeable on both BSD and Linux, and don't wan't to use 128b inodes, nor ext2, you may wanna consider using fat (except the file size limit thing, it works great), or ntfs (quit= e ugly, but still working) Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely > written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? > > With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got "unsupported inode size" when trying t= o > mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. > > With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got "Bad file descriptor" wh= en > trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount an= d > read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs > partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save)= , > the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file > system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to > the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rathe= r > than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet. > > Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and > possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be = for > data as opposed to Linux installation. > > There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run > FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data > between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some > problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. > But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? > > Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS > partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject "Re: > External HD", that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I fig= ure > that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other > non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. > > There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to > be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems > unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each > other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some > newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 10:54:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281A61065675 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1EB8FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD81B3D44B; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7OAsgFG001657; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:54:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:54:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-Id: <20100824125442.25f45233.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:54:45 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:09 +0000, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could > run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to > share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. > Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and > lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? There is a way around this: Put the files to be transferred into a tar archive. In this way, only the archives name will have to obey 8.3, and its content will keep intact (case sensitive long file names); the only downside is that extraction in DOS will result in 8.3 filenames again (there's TAR.EXE for DOS). Know that tar is the "most universal file system". :-) I did use this approach in the past when having to fransfer files between non-networked UNIX and Linux systems via floppy disk: Simply used tar directly on the device (which's device name was of course different on all the systems). > Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and > write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on > this list, subject "Re: External HD", that writing to NTFS > partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also > true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line > OS that might have support for NTFS. NTFS is known to be an unstable file system. > There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would > have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, > since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and > FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Linux and DOS do, as far as I remember, only operate on slice level. Partitioned slices (such as FreeBSD uses them) are a bit problematic. With 4 slices (so called "DOS primary partitions") a disk is "full". > Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file > systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe that's not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with built-in FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via FTP. There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs well in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to run a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a disk's partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of "FTP-backed file system", I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 11:06:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65BD1065694 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg20.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [195.66.148.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0D38FC14 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg20.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7OB6oc7051650 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:06:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4C73A7B9.6020802@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:06:33 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail rdns question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:06:53 -0000 Hi, Sorry for posting on a bsd list but i figure there's more than a few sendmail experts here. I would like to run reverse dns checks on one of my boxes but the check_rnds macro looks a bit overkill to me. I want to reject the mail if there's no reverse dns, but not if there is rdns but the PTR loop isn't closed (which is very common). So accepting these types: reject=451 4.1.8 Possibly forged hostname for but rejecting these types reject=550 5.7.1 <........>... Fix reverse DNS for ....................... In sendmail, FEATURE(`require_rdns')dnl seems to do both. many thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 12:27:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908B11065694 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer@csj.no) Received: from smtp244.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp244.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448A58FC19 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 640FA22AF81 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:11 -0400 (EDT) X-SMTPDoctor-Processed: csmtpprox 2.7.3 Received: from relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 603BF23A975 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp192.mex02.mlsrvr.com (unknown [204.232.137.43]) by relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 595C622AF81 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IAD2HUB03.mex02.mlsrvr.com (172.23.10.67) by IAD2HUB02.mex02.mlsrvr.com (172.23.10.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.247.2; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:08 -0400 Received: from IAD2MBX02.mex02.mlsrvr.com ([169.254.2.132]) by IAD2HUB03.mex02.mlsrvr.com ([169.254.122.106]) with mapi; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:08 -0400 From: Christer Solstrand Johannessen To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? Thread-Index: ActDeyQqYx9iXCYtRq2wD/2NumD1igACY3Ag Message-ID: References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <20100824125442.25f45233.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100824125442.25f45233.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:27:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon > Sent: 24. august 2010 12:55 > To: Thomas Mueller > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? >=20 =20 > > Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file > > systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). >=20 > An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe > that's > not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a > interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with > built-in > FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via > FTP. > There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs > well > in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to > run > a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a > disk's > partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of "FTP- > backed > file system", I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... I've successfully used CIFS/Samba and NFS between Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Solaris and Windows for years. Easy to set up and works well. If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; with Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS clients are dodgy at best. - Christer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 12:55:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882D01065698 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0818FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:55:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALBXc0zDDR/w/2dsb2JhbAChLrlPhTcEiXg Received: from 240.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.240]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 24 Aug 2010 14:26:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:25:25 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100824122525.GA78226@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: ghostscript-8.71 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:55:46 -0000 Trying to update ghostscript, but seems to fail. Can somebody provide me with info on how to solve this? Here error during build of port ...... cc -DHAVE_MKSTEMP -DHAVE_HYPOT -DHAVE_FONTCONFIG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DUPD_SIGNAL=0 -I. -I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.71/jasper/src/libjasper/include -I/usr/local/include/libpng -I/usr/local/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE="unsigned long long" -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DUSE_LIBPAPER -DGS_DEVS_SHARED -DGS_DEVS_SHARED_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/ghostscript/8.71\" -I./obj/../soobj -I./base -g -o ./bin/../sobin/gsc ./psi/dxmainc.c -L./bin/../sobin -lgs ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_buffer_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_start_render_thread' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_get_data' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_put_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_open_render_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_close_render_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_clear_known' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_open' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_print_page_copies' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_size_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_write_ctm' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gs_clist_device_procs' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_setup_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_get_space_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_get_params' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_read_matrix' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_pattern_manage' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_write_ctm_return_length_nodevice' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `cmd_put_color_mapping' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_close' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_writer_check_empty_cropping_stack' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `st_device_clist' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_playback_file_bands' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_destroy_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_output_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_init_io_procs' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_put_data' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gx_default_create_buf_device' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `gdev_prn_get_bits' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_end_page' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `clist_data_size' ./bin/../sobin/libgs.so: undefined reference to `st_device_printer' gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/gsc] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.71' ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall20100824-60860-1222o6h-0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! print/ghostscript8 (linker error) Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/portinstall print/ghostscript8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 13:21:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502F2106564A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from nomoremozzie.com (nomoremozzie.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143298FC1B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([175.156.78.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nomoremozzie.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o7ODLhDM009131; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:21:44 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:21:41 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20100823083855.ba0f5b48.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008242121.41358.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: Mubeesh ali , Polytropon Subject: Re: Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:21:49 -0000 Hi, On Monday 23 August 2010 15:01:22 Mubeesh ali wrote: > Hi, > > In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to > acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled my laptop. > They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old > :-( ). The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine. > this is real bad luck. > Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd . This was just a hardware fault not detected at the factory. This happens. Good luck for your next installation. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 14:44:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C95E10656A9 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472B68FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yEKn1e0020QkzPwA2EkXHH; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:44:31 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yEkV1e00846zqiB8NEkWxV; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:44:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4C73DACD.30707@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:44:29 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Msmtp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:44:32 -0000 Anyone using msmtp as an smtp client? I have Comcast as an ISP and am unable to achieve authentication. The weird thing is that I saved my .msmtprc file from a previous installation where it worked just fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 15:22:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7291065698 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48048FC22 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so3477640eyx.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EfivwPZXBYnFxUlrK+AAkw0phSfg8UaLUyWHaVH/XtU=; b=hi3iE/ZKstgRhX7MPDUseL3vi8cK1JVHWIiYAo2jJHgJ5SwU2w6k1WU9sn9PNuT5Z7 XdPENf3c2NH2xLIiRF2IijC8SdOBXrb93RxL4dq8JPWd9yUGTnI6MJDaSbqkDT9Wb/f4 rBzcrViW90Rehdgsypa/J68WtM9fM+hRCi3Jo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=BSaH/OcvH2slLqEaCoKrA8/wo7zIAexBsudXP1u5Q6Z8u3ej3Squaz4WZCx3bzWCox LE60er+/cULcb3NKCJGwDNEN0BDYrGvgzA0LEG+klTfX5WYoKW8J3S5U1xMqC4A1gQLe Sdqa17laU1afa+uKR3vh9mpPilUx+TW66NY5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.40.75 with SMTP id j11mr4529188ebe.28.1282663377498; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.122.65 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BzpNygWo_nwFPw-0hWJRetHbscA Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Molecular Modeling Software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:22:59 -0000 Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 15:27:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AF6106566B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0A838FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30308 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2010 15:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box511.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.111) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2010 15:27:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=estrads.com.ar; h=Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=Qx//+6niVLZ2Ag9CjhxtWtCDsqGhZv7efcBot/JTZ8MPJHVk8pleWR/xv7rvV2NvGRAfgOHQbAMJBAua1yhEXg7EFlAYjsmwWenHka0LbZKiHcjJhM/5VQMQWFJbw6iu; Received: from host196.190-31-152.telecom.net.ar ([190.31.152.196] helo=rjgonzale-laptop) by box511.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnvPU-0001tP-67; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:27:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:27:27 -0300 From: Rodrigo Gonzalez To: Chris Maness Message-ID: <20100824122727.7ba59adf@rjgonzale-laptop> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Q=rFXYFsP9neO=8fUkZEbDp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Identified-User: {32647:box511.bluehost.com:gonosade:estrads.com.ar} {sentby:smtp auth 190.31.152.196 authed with rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar} Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Molecular Modeling Software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:27:38 -0000 --Sig_/Q=rFXYFsP9neO=8fUkZEbDp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe /usr/ports/biology/pymol is what you need On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 Chris Maness wrote: > Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? >=20 > Regards, > Chris Maness > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Sig_/Q=rFXYFsP9neO=8fUkZEbDp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkxz5N8ACgkQZHmnrc0PV89GsQCdF7NW6wRYcAahxVLIhxyeMj28 GaQAn3bTMv7vmoRH6WsQLCdIiYHxUtSb =NQ0p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Q=rFXYFsP9neO=8fUkZEbDp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 15:37:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC89F106566B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF438FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so3917121ewy.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:37:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xH/yAGBeARdRHwJHtMDemjkrtF+sV63ibdKedXR6U8M=; b=EcG93YnHC/cG1VM/Mv+TOYnA+rstvSF07ivVQthN3q1M+/0UkBOSBUqWVxrIgsUfWf gVkZWRU7p+tppHhdvEhDFTkEG9bZOixtpOa31fseLoXveFZVtuQxNHfYwpM+suD5fwlT NhUTOwVRUvPO+dUpukRNphRETOOgrs3HU/FVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GvHQ3ylGu19vyZzSJwMtyuLPO42RETmY/gHaa5DrQ4Gs8TlGH2H7hz9I73WJQpHNpa 5ZkwWpUEmLlWnDPORRO6FLqFA1CgyJkKZiZUhDDmDDVzNs+Kmigdo2YuHEUBx1nZrkNz lb9mkZM9dO2rJP+ggIYdkYzkH6aEbsn1/EKTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.21.145 with SMTP id j17mr5379219ebb.7.1282664236913; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.122.65 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100824122727.7ba59adf@rjgonzale-laptop> References: <20100824122727.7ba59adf@rjgonzale-laptop> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:37:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lhgQQstNRpG4EvHu2SANlPNaNUk Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: Rodrigo Gonzalez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Molecular Modeling Software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:37:19 -0000 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > =A0Maybe /usr/ports/biology/pymol is what you need > > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:22:57 -0700 > Chris Maness wrote: > >> Is there any molecular modeling software in ports? >> >> Regards, >> Chris Maness >> Yea, I see that one there plus tinker and vmd. I want to do a spectroscopy lab with my chemistry students, and I am wondering if any of these would do emission line predictions. Any suggestions? Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 16:29:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294621065675 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4898FC1F for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFD83D451; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7OGTVXI001463; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:29:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:29:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christer Solstrand Johannessen Message-Id: <20100824182931.45babc63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <20100824125442.25f45233.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:29:34 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:04 -0400, Christer Solstrand Johannessen wrote: > If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; Yes, I forgot to mention NFS. Of course it works, as the support for it in UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X is sufficiently good. But it may not be a solution in a one-PC-setting. :-) > with > Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS > clients are dodgy at best. I've also seen enclosures for hard disks including a CIFS share management system via their network connection. A built-in browser- accessible configuration tool can be used for customization. As there is no separate software on the hard disk itself, the disk can be replaced easily (if full or defective). This would be an acceptable add-on for the PC in a one-PC-setting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 17:29:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5795810656A5 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2608FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so4032926ewy.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BLWNmB1ovsRKbIIUIOOIUae3vcl59tQCPpMlmTn1koY=; b=lHKbQRYRfzHdt/zFsod43JYIWa7YU/QlNpw8r6O5WWakZCuXd0I6hOQrkmNEU8gvbw NsKnyBrqQSh19slpsn/1BFlkx8I063BtW8kOPVcoQ+kmx7Wm5HcCFM3aZWyHNYerukXg 1Sh0IwyyuqQTd/DeYGTIVvFMRnH7Rk6a5gEbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L0zB1rnLMoQ/9U5Jbr8a3jAWQuxU6A1L0NkovKGJEubEWJATnqicfeavQdfoEITiaf hWsjHWN1YvFOHXGua2+tQha9Ed3+3PfU3/Ehs8E5U+1ksUOOzMjNaUx3Jzviiqg4ikOx XEWP/Ejo/Xd8NCphhTlbKwE7NvcdGkPwYoO7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.35.72 with SMTP id o8mr950308ebd.80.1282670967732; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.122.65 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: l4FXgH2rq4Tum3QXkbNeh71Fz7c Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:29:29 -0000 I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. =A0However I am still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. =A0So it is not the modules. =A0I am thinking hardware. =A0It has a temperature alarm that sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had any issues with heat. =A0I am thinking bad processor/ram. =A0It is behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. =A0What do you guys think? Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 18:05:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD2E10656A7 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860A88FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so1416950ywt.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.206.19 with SMTP id i19mr7675749anq.87.1282673146464; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.7.36 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.38.202] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Chris Maness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:05:47 -0000 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for > virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am > still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the > modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that > sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had > any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is > behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. > What do you guys think? Unless you're using ECC RAM, bad RAM should still be #1 on your watchlist, closely followed by bad PSU. Even RAM that worked fine in the past can start exhibiting bit errors a few years later (maybe due to mechanical stress, i.e. vibrations or frequent temperature differences?) and esp. el cheapo PSUs have the tendency to degrade over time. Of course, a software bug may always be possible. Have you tried to get a core dump? If so, does the error always happen at the same place (backtrace / bt is your friend)? If the error keeps occurring at different locations, it's almost always dodgy hardware. > Regards, > Chris Maness -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 18:25:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982D31065674 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B618FC18 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o7OINXub057404; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:23:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o7OINWCU057403; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:23:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:23:32 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100824182331.GD57185@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> <20100824125442.25f45233.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100824182931.45babc63.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100824182931.45babc63.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Christer Solstrand Johannessen Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:25:40 -0000 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:29:31PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:09:04 -0400, Christer Solstrand Johannessen wrote: > > If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; > > Yes, I forgot to mention NFS. Of course it works, as the support > for it in UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X is sufficiently good. But > it may not be a solution in a one-PC-setting. :-) > > > > > with > > Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS > > clients are dodgy at best. I have deleted the OP, so I may not remember exactly what [s]he is looking for, but if it is just to have some common space that each OS can read/write, but not necessarily boot from eg each OS has its own bootable disk space and this is just used between then, then maybe FAT32 might do the trick. It doesn't preserve some of the UNIX ownership and permission stuff though. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 18:44:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118D210656A7 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17A28FC1E for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:44:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=U3QNaO+T2T8u+YHzxbqqfFddbE7YWdywvcUXOrFu0iI= c=1 sm=0 a=c7WDKh8GrrwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wTwVZmRG0EeNCYhkxzeBEQ==:17 a=nQ0OEBlCEoCS6AZwYIUA:9 a=f-nVO_z8k4PfXtE9ylD7CxDnQi4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wTwVZmRG0EeNCYhkxzeBEQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.49.189.17 Received: from [67.49.189.17] ([67.49.189.17:23406] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 36/FE-22155-4F2147C4; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:44:04 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32B95CC8 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:48:05 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7OIm5Cd044335 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:48:05 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:48:04 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: f-q Message-ID: <20100824184804.GA44296@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Opera 10.61 (FreeBSD 8/i386) crash - can't read kernel memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:44:06 -0000 Why does Opera 10.61.6430 want to read kernel memory (on FreeBSD 8[.0]-STABLE/i386), leading to eventual death ... opera [crash logging]: Can't read kernel memory: : /dev/mem: Permission denied opera [crash logging]: CRASH!! got signal SIGSEGV at address 0819DEA6 ... while shutting down normally? (Yes, of course, only root:kmem has read access to /dev/mem.) Also, is there any way to prevent creation of /var/tmp/crash.txt every time it crashes? - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 18:47:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285931065674 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68C48FC1D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so3148329gxk.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mQ2DRgHbff6zFTfEhP2dhPwXgrJbZqvP67EfTTmxNOw=; b=eIuQRK7PNz0Vmng6DrPW1mXAZP0ikmrTZOQwsIcXpjWuFrL9/SSZePUHar+f1yDd+7 3/F0OEthdPJzhQs7eMP5LmCnOC3kNUvpPW9Dj3QWlE5k1MoH2Ibt1GkmCyiFEx4UHRDK A0dshG3ZB4qflUzUH0VPJG3S2cefB149hz7Hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P0bILcYaRwQug51s24PrgL4nsf9Vb2F3U4KCWTXcV+0vlEH333Wyts9D1BgL4zOhOU Gsf6sWZ1kuO+wbrxCJ4tf5/ybYxOCsAn8PDmlBCSFvrWXgEr2vRNqzkpxR15gmZ7KRf2 twsRwsu8tqm3x4+O0zj1WPbExWxS0efqeM9cQ= Received: by 10.100.134.1 with SMTP id h1mr7739650and.105.1282675655857; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x33sm498397ana.33.2010.08.24.11.47.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C7413C5.8030409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:47:33 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:47:37 -0000 On 8/24/2010 4:53 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? > > With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got "unsupported inode size" when trying to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. > > With FreeBSD through 7.2, I could mount, but got "Bad file descriptor" when trying to access the Linux partition. With FreeBSD 8.0, I could mount and read the Linux partition, but in the only attempt to write to the ext2fs partition, I was editing a file with vi, and when I tried to write (save), the file was truncated. I was able to recover by saving to FreeBSD file system and copying to msdos (FAT32) partition and subsequently copying to the Linux partition (this was a nonbootable USB stick used for data rather than Linux installation). I haven't tried under FreeBSD 8.1 yet. > > Would I have better luck using newfs_ext2fs from NetBSD or FreeBSD and possibly getting a flavor of ext2fs more to BSD's liking? This would be for data as opposed to Linux installation. > > There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run FreeDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. Drawback is some problems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. But maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? > > Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject "Re: External HD", that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. > > There is also the caveat that such a data-sharing partition would have to be in a primary or extended/logical slice/partition, since Linux seems unable to read BSD disklabels, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can't read each other's disklabels. Also, Linux and the BSDs go separate ways with some newer file systems (ext4fs, btrfs, jfs in Linux; zfs in FreeBSD). > > Tom One other possibility is using UDF on the disk. It's forgotten about but I believe it's more interoperable and "unix-compatible" than fat32 or the rest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 19:03:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827A31065693 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwang@us.toyota-itc.com) Received: from na3sys009aog108.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog108.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F3038FC1A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([74.125.83.180]) by na3sys009aob108.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTHQXZ9GmT3EsJShJjk3zff8mi051bG3j@postini.com; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:03:04 PDT Received: by mail-pv0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 30so5038773pvc.25 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.110.16 with SMTP id i16mr6081067wfc.65.1282674991696; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.18.167] (adsl-99-49-9-50.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [99.49.9.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v38sm422099wfh.12.2010.08.24.11.36.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucas Wang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:36:27 -0700 Message-Id: To: Freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: nfs server /home not responding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:03:04 -0000 Hi experts, We use NFS to store /home directory for users in our lab. However, we occasionally get blocked from logging in because=20 the automount daemon on a NFS client machine hangs. When that happens, we get this error message on the NFS client machine called "bucks" in its system logs: Aug 24 10:53:40 bucks kernel: nfs server pid670@bucks:/home: not = responding pid670 is the amd process. Our NFS server(raptors) has the following configuration: FreeBSD raptors.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: = Tue Feb 9 12:59:50 PST 2010 = root@raptors.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAPTORS amd64 And the client machine is configured as: FreeBSD bucks.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue = Feb 9 20:47:50 UTC 2010 = root@bucks.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUCKS amd64 Another thing I want to add is that several other NFS client machines also hang from time to time. But they don't usually hang at the same = time. Even though rebooting can fix the problem once, we don't want it keep = hurting us. So any insights or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a = lot. Regards, - Lucas= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 19:12:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDE110656B0 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A0A8FC22 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56EFCF7427; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:11:57 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Lucas Wang Message-Id: <20100824151157.85e8d95e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd Subject: Re: nfs server /home not responding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:12:01 -0000 In response to Lucas Wang : > > We use NFS to store /home directory for users in our lab. > However, we occasionally get blocked from logging in because > the automount daemon on a NFS client machine hangs. When > that happens, we get this error message on the NFS client machine > called "bucks" in its system logs: > Aug 24 10:53:40 bucks kernel: nfs server pid670@bucks:/home: not responding > > pid670 is the amd process. > > Our NFS server(raptors) has the following configuration: > FreeBSD raptors.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 12:59:50 PST 2010 root@raptors.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAPTORS amd64 > > And the client machine is configured as: > FreeBSD bucks.cs.ucla.edu 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Feb 9 20:47:50 UTC 2010 root@bucks.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUCKS amd64 > > Another thing I want to add is that several other NFS client machines > also hang from time to time. But they don't usually hang at the same time. > Even though rebooting can fix the problem once, we don't want it keep hurting us. > > So any insights or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Do you have dumbtimer in the options for the nfs mount? My research into this indicated that the NFS client keeps track of average response times from the server. If the server starts to respond significantly slower than is expected, the code assumes that the server is down and the mount freezes and that message appears in the logs. Usually, after a short wait (a few minutes) the connection resumes and you see a "server is alive again message". See man mount_nfs for more info. Also, try switching to TCP mounts. If you have a network that occasionally gets hit with traffic spikes that cause data packets to take abnormally long to travel, or an NFS server that occasionally gets usage spikes that cause it to respond slowly, this will happen. In addition to dumbtimer you can also look at better segmenting your network, or increasing the capacity of the NFS server to prevent the problem. If the NFS hangs occur and the mount never recovers (even after several minutes) then you probably have a different problem. Possibly a firewall is losing the state table and thus the connection is going bad? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 19:48:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610310656A6 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D5E8FC1F for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o7OJlYbJ012327 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:47:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201008241947.o7OJlYbJ012327@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:48:20 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 > From: Chris Maness > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) > > I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for > virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am > still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the > modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that > sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had > any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is > behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. > What do you guys think? I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. <*GRIN*> You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) problems? I'd try to make the box tell me "something" about *why* it crashed. crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' analysis. With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistency in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. Happy hunting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 19:58:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE4D1065696 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3418FC18 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so4173085ewy.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:58:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2pbs5/F1rvcgKT16LphiMzkSDQKWTIzrIWbuzjWr+3E=; b=Woczr4Gwlzn/F/7Z2i/HmwSYFJiZrxnqbz+bdjuYibOQHN1AyYdj9GNxmCMVT5F7AH i4C6PWBpNLruIisoMGwa4InGm4mB8iCpUFH4xP82NbZbqX6omS8BB7MYKeUiR8H9EDI+ P8mhU8Uyra4Z4sPDcZ8v50NUNKBxUhTDdM0Ig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=IrRJrPRW8ZGvISLFLinUsBkp2qARWAlxCak9xbJLF+bL27MXN18EpbD5rAgkNCYZdZ 8Ei8nHng7yHu6jCghAcH48o5lkgW+76PeEuFkYQYqLU+hmGVB5bCNPQqEq5ECHFVw1JN E1ZY7BiZd68ziYeEDxXQVnNLNj9OSpEzqJkH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.48.193 with SMTP id s1mr4834352ebf.20.1282679898070; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.122.65 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:58:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201008241947.o7OJlYbJ012327@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201008241947.o7OJlYbJ012327@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:58:17 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: byjv0wRHcEIspx7dMFmyQ48wAzY Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:58:19 -0000 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 >> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 >> From: Chris Maness >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules= ) >> >> I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for >> virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am >> still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. =A0So it is not the >> modules. =A0I am thinking hardware. =A0It has a temperature alarm that >> sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had >> any issues with heat. =A0I am thinking bad processor/ram. =A0It is >> behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. >> =A0What do you guys think? > > I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. =A0<*GRIN*> > > You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- > consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the > parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) > problems? > > I'd try to make the box tell me "something" about *why* it crashed. > > crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, > enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump > Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' > analysis. > > With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistenc= y > in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. > > Happy hunting > When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out of the clear blue. I am an experienced user, but I am not sure if I have the programing skills to look at debug output to find a fault. I might need a bit of hand holding on this one. I looked at backtrace to. I was thinking it was a command or something, but it looks like some debugging procedure. Regards, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 20:12:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EE310656AE for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E5E8FC14 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4362424.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.168]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7OKBp0Q023086; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:11:52 +0300 Message-ID: <4C742787.6090906@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:11:51 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Maness References: <201008241947.o7OJlYbJ012327@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:12:29 -0000 On 24/08/2010 10:58 μ.μ., Chris Maness wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 12:29:16 2010 >>> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:29:27 -0700 >>> From: Chris Maness >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) >>> >>> I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for >>> virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am >>> still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the >>> modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that >>> sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had >>> any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is >>> behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. >>> What do you guys think? >>> >> I think its 100% certain that it is hardware, or software. <*GRIN*> >> >> You can try randomly replacing things, which can be expensive, time- >> consuming, and not necessarily effective -- how do you *KNOW* that the >> parts you're putting _IN_ do not, themselves, have (as-yet undiscovered) >> problems? >> >> I'd try to make the box tell me "something" about *why* it crashed. >> >> crank up the level of logging for 'kernel' events in syslog.con, >> enable crash dumps, and make sure the boot process saves the dump >> Then you can get into the weird,wonderful, world of 'crash dump' >> analysis. >> >> With a few dumps in hand, you can begin to see if there is any consistency >> in what the machine was doing -when- it crashed. >> >> Happy hunting >> >> > When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out of > the clear blue. I am an experienced user, but I am not sure if I have > the programing skills to look at debug output to find a fault. I > might need a bit of hand holding on this one. I looked at backtrace > to. I was thinking it was a command or something, but it looks like > some debugging procedure. > > Regards, > Chris Maness > If the reboot is so abrupt and sudden that nothing is logged (like someone pressing the reset button), it is most probably hardware. As others have said the most usual culprits are RAM and power supply. If you have any spare parts at hand, it may be worth the effort to try with an other power supply. If the reboot happens when the system is stressed (lots of disk activity and/or high power consumption by the CPU, like when portupgrading) the power supply is even more suspect. Bad RAM usually causes error messages and dumps to appear rather than out of the blue reboots. Since it is unlikely that the same program will always be in the faulty area of memory each time, the dumps will not be consistent - will seem to be caused by entirely different apps. It is still worthy to at least take out the RAM modules and clean the contacts before reinstalling. Use rubbing alcohol (a pen eraser is also good for gold plated contacts). Many RAM problems on older systems are definitely caused by dust and corrosion on these contacts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 20:34:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7913410656BF for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1ED8FC29 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4EA1CC69; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:15:33 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 7B4EA1CC69 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1282680933; bh=0rp4pI0M0EoVoYaJ9DiNOCHza48GeWrOcNURUtFpMOA=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=un/vHUVJ1vnnUuH4RH4fAQjpPaXl9kWKtgAA2fwXm/Rv5f0XOGRIvoZfX070vwq12 ubnbND53rJodi064C+vW7llB/dT2LVjL0Lfw3T5t3o8XBh0PgbFfVmYitngYKMVe3q /3vRAmLgHQX2HFgLP7LS0XgkF8GIz9jAhBuE50f0= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 1pccdur+4t9Q; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:15:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0ABC1CC59; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:15:27 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net E0ABC1CC59 Message-ID: <40754D2A178B44E8A361042031F5B650@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Chris Maness" References: <201008241947.o7OJlYbJ012327@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:15:58 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:34:44 -0000 > When I looked at the regular level kernel log, it seemed to be out=20 > of > the clear blue. I've seen once behaviour like this on FreeBSD and it was caused by=20 faulty ECC memory comb. Incorrectable CRC error just caused a=20 diagnosis beep sequence and then machine shut down immediately after. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 20:48:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82E01065693 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73C5B8FC13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19033 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2010 20:48:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2010 20:48:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Vjf7/+ZO0DZY9pI6HIsVMOtyStoCZ3R/Ko2e2htQhbpCG727lCsLY542Lv+no0tlUtjbKD6DZbD5U9E2SBPmBp7hlLs1tI3v6xZJAoQqYRJyBn48XXDTY8QCa1cWE1OT; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo0Q5-00081L-Ak for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:48:34 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:45:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:45:52 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:35 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx0L4AACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXyYgCgviPuK6WLxa60cZKgYwzw/gNv uNMAoOC++Xh72jl9l+P2XvOjdmIv0GjW =1muz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:03:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1F71065675 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2F48FC1D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7OL2bfT021966; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:02:37 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7OL2b04021960; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:02:37 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EA7E033C3D; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:02:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:02:36 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Chris Maness Message-ID: <20100824210236.GA12409@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by asmtp1.iomartmail.com id o7OL2b04021960 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:03:21 -0000 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: > > I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for > virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. =A0However I am > still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. =A0So it is not the > modules. =A0I am thinking hardware. =A0It has a temperature alarm that > sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had > any issues with heat. =A0I am thinking bad processor/ram. =A0It is > behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. > =A0What do you guys think? >=20 > Regards, > Chris Maness Sounds to me like power supply. Is the machine on a UPS? Have you checked out the power leads are properly seated? Have these reboots started to happen after you cleaned it out? Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:04:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E14910656AA for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4808FC1F for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo0Qc-0002KK-Tf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:49:08 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:04:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:04:32 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100824210432.GB2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:04:39 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside > Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means > installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the > CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: >=20 > /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf >=20 > (using an HP 4050N printer) >=20 > This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've > tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to > print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the > cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried > adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to > print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. >=20 > If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. >=20 > Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, > it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I'm using CUPS, too, but printing to an HP OfficeJet 7310. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdDPgAAoJEIpckszW26+RaOsH/0DlAJuE5To8IxLJKroGhSeW DcJVH5QPqoqvQC1qmrp1SY3sOjy9o7DIiBh67ZRDzR5vLP91LFY9qxEZmrIttq/N ECAcc0ZsLgHL8pKRwdwhushLr/gq2txnCJRdk4xOm1LtXarKYF/ERQlkwq2YgeFQ wTyT4GSL8ydgv60IYAx1uGqnRWTgIjtuFgHpcqHqS73LCCOLRDvIvhfPxzTIm8RR EEU1g8o7GVUVoALazgWGb9Yn8I4W0MgoOH1fv71seW8oETtgMhPlX4aQkbtHBcKB bbK9dEZ2UXdxcKCyLp3VTQkeeLJIHNdrQrplrfvHZ8F7KeSihDi63315D258xZE= =PbEv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:14:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D34410656AC for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622C68FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yKMy1e0061HpZEsA2MEcfH; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:14:36 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.198.73]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yMEV1e00H1bWFVA8aMEXBu; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:14:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20100824210236.GA12409@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:14:26 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82C8A15A-AE23-4D36-8BE6-B85035616FAC@cwis.biz> References: <20100824210236.GA12409@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> To: Frank Shute X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: Chris Maness , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:14:37 -0000 I was thinking that, maybe, it's the PSU itself. Does the fan work? Do = you have the ability to get temperatures inside your computer? Get those = to poll every minute or so and write to a flat file? -- Ryan On Aug 24, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Chris Maness wrote: >>=20 >> I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for >> virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am >> still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the >> modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that >> sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had >> any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is >> behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest = release. >> What do you guys think? >>=20 >> Regards, >> Chris Maness >=20 > Sounds to me like power supply. Is the machine on a UPS? Have you > checked out the power leads are properly seated? Have these reboots > started to happen after you cleaned it out? >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Frank >=20 > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:21:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D747E106567A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FE2A8FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16444 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2010 21:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2010 21:21:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LKx3d9wVPwndI3YYTbaZBTfu1DjD4Pl3SfB3WV23JjScRpIbtHCABVDleivP8zTjgZXApP7+UOC4+/kQ6+tLcsKg2Cx7e48fdIv8dehiqS2CWZIuo+otum03OvvdTiq1; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo0va-0001To-Vm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:21:08 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:18:26 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:18:26 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100824211826.GA70570@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824210432.GB2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100824210432.GB2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:21:08 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the > margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx0NyIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWNOwCfbngssnyEx6Ux81bEAG3gJ75d vG8An1GeShJY6sRpjYTN/f+LyfKIz572 =NDRD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207E81065674 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33F08FC16 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo0zQ-00031f-4z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:25:04 +0200 Received: from 207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net ([207.155.204.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:25:04 +0200 Received: from atkin901 by 207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:25:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Atkinson Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:21:02 -0700 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100810 Thunderbird/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots (I thought it was Virtualbox Kernel Modules) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:25:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/10 10:29, Chris Maness wrote: > I have commented out the lines that load kernel modules for > virtualbox, and made sure they were gone with kldstat. However I am > still getting VERY infrequent spontaneous reboots. So it is not the > modules. I am thinking hardware. It has a temperature alarm that > sounds when it is hot, but since I have cleaned it out I have not had > any issues with heat. I am thinking bad processor/ram. It is > behaving the same way before/after the upgraded to the latest release. > What do you guys think? You can try the following ( I believe this is in 8-STABLE ) echo 'hw.mca.enabled="1"' >> /boot/loader.conf and reboot. If it's hardware supported machine check exception, then you may see which component has an issue on the console in the machine check output. - -Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx0N74ACgkQrDN5kXnx8yZfSgCeIrd2qXmatERuOhPwW2W6cqY0 FtEAnj3154huE/8aVl5W3zA22YjNw2UL =p002 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:31:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28B1106567A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4098FC1C for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo0qh-0001Pb-CK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:16:04 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100824213129.GG2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824210432.GB2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100824211826.GA70570@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100824211826.GA70570@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:31:35 -0000 --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the > > margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? >=20 > I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. >=20 > I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my > girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. >=20 > I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Well, if it makes you feel any better, it does the same thing here (truncates top and bottom). Looks like CUPS is addressing the page as if there were no unprintable areas on the page (i.e., it's scaled to fit an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper exactly) rather than squeezing it into the printable area. I'm afraid I don't know enough about CUPS to say any more. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdDoxAAoJEIpckszW26+RD9IH/iBChCBcBMl0rybBUDkQ1zIa NvFVDCpAGcW81Uv3vn6nCOwT1PMe2JqLac4DD0MmpIl0dJRHQ3BYB5XveDW4mu72 Hag0PRJZBMKdDByPaVfSMQMZ8J0KwfDM4AhjtGJStwx8jZvfBXDBvcge0quQaG/e 7GgXZQzDufxLCjmD+WzAYq+RE5GCgj+8IeNs/wl+zH+0VtTzvifHAQhHf4TTxiO1 I5pBT2HucudBSyTf6bqgi9mtg7AwP7XU7YNqw8Z35kXYkvBe0Mp19pZmt/TV0zmo iVYq1yuZtJerFgdlC61gRIewXhSRrtU5JkiDM1wXayeIRJfEg80cu0CrTJru1GM= =ShSF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 21:49:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572321065698 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1219F8FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7OLnOSS096515; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:49:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7OLnO5U096512; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:49:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:49:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:49:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:49:28 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside > Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means > installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the > CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: > > /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf > > (using an HP 4050N printer) > > This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've > tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to > print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the > cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried > adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to > print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. > > If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. > > Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, > it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to "intelligently" scale the page to fit your printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 22:41:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07079106567A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A98FC12 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-82-31-24-1.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [82.31.24.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 612455F11; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:41:39 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-ID: <20100824234139.00007e50@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:41:46 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:09 +0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and > safely written to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? I've not tried it recently, but I think UFS (both UFS1 and UFS2 seem to be supported) should work well; since 2.6.29 Linux has supported writing to UFS too; you may need to recompile the kernel to add support for writing depending on how old the kernel is, but http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt;h=7a602adeca2b7399f04b50232c838a9aec305712;hb=HEAD says simply that ufs2 has read-write support. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 24 23:01:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8019B10656A3 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4880E8FC15 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17172 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2010 23:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2010 23:01:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nz67OXPZXomZf6n44sMjrxqeglz+LdUj8XQI1DuApQ+V4plh49lHs+RCU/1UMtxee3ppM8NKNRVpEtVhdnvU3WldwJZDa8yRB4JfJ3TctKIBdI5EVhS42m229nb0f0CI; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo2UQ-0001G1-FT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:01:11 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:58:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:58:29 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:01:12 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >=20 > The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. >=20 > So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and= =20 > adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to=20 > "intelligently" scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. I wave chicken bones over it, and it works, mostly. The documentation has always seemed somewhat opaque and incomplete. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx0TpUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVgWwCfUVPTErZbZPDfKdzZXBHztI/0 uQUAn0jszVkNCGDZwRfsJHjDEmBZyyIR =PgX4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 00:12:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64B41065693 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E28FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7P0CeYQ096947; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7P0Cet3096944; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:12:43 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> >> The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. >> >> So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and >> adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to >> "intelligently" scale the page to fit your printer. > > CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. > I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is > being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to > guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this > somewhere. > > Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate > from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same > problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I > really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. Could you send me the PDF? As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 00:14:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE5D10656AA for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ECF8FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5849qyk.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:14:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GBFZsbgavJl5JkJZ+TESt8WmtWcg05xKEaE4CX6+Kxw=; b=toXp1jnMI6rSEOlA1Q6HwJHR1TP+QqbnhDqWHoSYgznUQKWmG9Hb4c9oo0k92wp+Sh /n9XqzxrpCf+Wot9PO+lGCxvlQGoepjumgbXJuRYCdlNMpt6zMGPXO+47Aw2Gd3M9J6L FtBqKV1v9fRJZKfqzhaT4Lyyt+fDDgc/zUfW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OulodAM8CeqFSnHgtLPO64Mlhc4MMh1vNYWuwXhfCElcf/fEWRXV/t7LbRlrQB17HO oDPp09n0SMDKozuETb5NIfM3+LAlgVi27cJ5NbzStJHNV6o5K5PY1aNB78SCDOH2u27P 8dZGnrFgMXMVLBSryW0GgxKIEZSRiLXIHRw44= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.72.205 with SMTP id n13mr4984023qaj.286.1282693715004; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.238.21 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:48:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:34 -0300 Message-ID: From: Gustavo De Nardin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:14:20 -0000 On 24 August 2010 06:53, Thomas Mueller wrote: > What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely wr= itten to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? I've been trying NTFS(-3g). It's been going well, with even occasional Windows thrown in the mix. But it is very slow, mostly, I believe, due to being an userspace implementation. And I do keep backups. > With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got "unsupported inode size" when trying t= o mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. I've tested ext2/3 in the past, found it very risky to mix OSs (Linux and FreeBSD only, though). FreeBSD's Ext2 seemed very lacky regarding new FS features. I wouldn't risk it. > There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run Free= DOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data betwee= n Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. =C2=A0Drawback is some proble= ms getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. =C2=A0Bu= t maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? IMHO NTFS should be better, also, NTFS-3G has an (opensource friendly?) company behind it: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ > Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS = partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject "Re: E= xternal HD", that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figure= that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Windows= -NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. I haven't seen recent horror stories about NTFS use on Linux, since the userspace/fuse implementations. Haven't had any problemas myself too. Except for a hiccup: one of the implementations (can't remember which) would semi-silently ignore files/paths for which it couldn't parse the charset, that it, it didn't copy the files/dirs, also didn't error, just spit some mumbling in dmesg (this was on Linux also). So beware of your FS charset. As Joshua Isom mentioned, there's also UDF. But IIRC FreeBSD wasn't able to write on it when I checked. Also slow compared to native FSs (same league or worse than the userspace NTFSs). I'd love to go with UDF, if only it had better support/performance. And don't underestimate your backups. --=20 (nil) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 00:16:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A510656A5 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401EB8FC23 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so7475533qwg.13 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dQX+cWqdIejH2s0LEwh8Z/JaZzJKLOBublbgAQmawWY=; b=PE4+7rBjNyocLjXRxYm9j0VAowRYn2jHiEAoqlsjDT/NxOHr/3+Dz62vP9LJBIPPs9 OmOuGJ5tFBNS8GAXhwHroFoTs5z1wklLJu6QMEaRBNVAXk/xQVUOnozlm6d1CpWjM5YD 34LecWeylXSvqTDEsOK/oQM6/5BH/Hz1/WKgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VGV2CE6Bjk51V+nN04TMyz7HlUeFQ5tcdLrT5kYHy21JPDGJpsibGSOPpfgSYY87YP JkXVZshAk/fRphINUSoQrZxZcT5HPg+ZejumsDoGjw6S3b9kJVlg90O4DKm8UWjQaNN5 3PGTOQKXnPc+25nJcFdPY2DvoAtabesbthvfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.219.70 with SMTP id ht6mr5400686qcb.105.1282693870586; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.238.21 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:51:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4c739685.g1aaLUnEPIT1pDne%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:51:10 -0300 Message-ID: From: Gustavo De Nardin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:16:19 -0000 On 24 August 2010 20:48, Gustavo De Nardin wrote: > On 24 August 2010 06:53, Thomas Mueller wrote= : >> What is the best choice for a file system that can be read, and safely w= ritten to, by Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD? > > I've been trying NTFS(-3g). It's been going well, with even occasional > Windows thrown in the mix. But it is very slow, mostly, I believe, due > to being an userspace implementation. And I do keep backups. I thought I must correct myself: the problem is not exaclt it being slow, but rather using a lot of CPU. On non fast machines, you may easily be bound by the CPU, not I/O. >> With NetBSD through 5.1_RC3, I got "unsupported inode size" when trying = to mount Linux ext2fs partition from NetBSD. > > I've tested ext2/3 in the past, found it very risky to mix OSs (Linux > and FreeBSD only, though). FreeBSD's Ext2 seemed very lacky regarding > new FS features. I wouldn't risk it. > > >> There is the obvious possibility of using msdos (FAT32); I could run Fre= eDOS on such a partition as well as using the partition to share data betwe= en Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, and FreeDOS too. =C2=A0Drawback is some probl= ems getting long file names straight, and lack of case sensitivity. =C2=A0B= ut maybe FAT32 is the safest choice? > > IMHO NTFS should be better, also, NTFS-3G has an (opensource > friendly?) company behind it: > http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ > > >> Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD are supposed to be able to read and write NTFS= partition, but I see from a very recent thread on this list, subject "Re: = External HD", that writing to NTFS partition is very dangerous, and I figur= e that would be also true for NetBSD and Linux, and any other non-MS-Window= s-NT-line OS that might have support for NTFS. > > I haven't seen recent horror stories about NTFS use on Linux, since > the userspace/fuse implementations. Haven't had any problemas myself > too. Except for a hiccup: one of the implementations (can't remember > which) would semi-silently ignore files/paths for which it couldn't > parse the charset, that it, it didn't copy the files/dirs, also didn't > error, just spit some mumbling in dmesg (this was on Linux also). So > beware of your FS charset. > > As Joshua Isom mentioned, there's also UDF. But IIRC FreeBSD wasn't > able to write on it when I checked. Also slow compared to native FSs > (same league or worse than the userspace NTFSs). I'd love to go with > UDF, if only it had better support/performance. > > And don't underestimate your backups. > > -- > (nil) > --=20 (nil) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 00:28:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F5D1065698 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC898FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo3bW-00073J-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:12:35 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:28:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:28:01 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tBhgiDt8dP1efIIJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:28:07 -0000 --tBhgiDt8dP1efIIJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >> > >>The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. > >> > >>So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and > >>adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to > >>"intelligently" scale the page to fit your printer. > > > >CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. >=20 > Me too. That's why I use lpd. >=20 > >I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is > >being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to > >guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this > >somewhere. > > > >Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate > >from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same > >problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I > >really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. >=20 > Could you send me the PDF? >=20 > As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not= =20 > being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I=20 > think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should= =20 > be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS= =20 > to the right printer. =46rom the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=3Dprintable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --tBhgiDt8dP1efIIJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdGORAAoJEIpckszW26+RHw4IAKum7CEOsvVVJxMutsybsInU OF35u85tid7O20RUdTGyrCTcWtxZMRYFhnhE91Ba+AbnAJt2Vj5SnOsJFEuhQZO6 S8UN4IyGE26xhCioJayWtZYpkStiY4OyZ9jS76j0lSB+qPxNusCtzQWq5BWD2wFb aivKo80GD4IluiZu8OJ2m03tPKtfhgyhbq77+emVinHuTXDge0ucK1a0sIMeH3IN l9xSJeZGdPYUeV8Ypd48iJ5rcVV18ZKXPyYIoxnPOX8/Mn9sDy3Zdgaxt19ja7t9 XRmxr6V9HSDnzKc0C9AukFwuJwNMidIxSpCjciRkoBS2kIHn9ZOMx8/bSPxkE6w= =ir+g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tBhgiDt8dP1efIIJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 03:20:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F131065696 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2F38FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7P3KprM097556; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:20:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7P3KpRi097553; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:20:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:20:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:20:55 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: >> As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not >> being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I >> think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should >> be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS >> to the right printer. > > From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: > > http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s > > How you get to that, I'm not sure. > > `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS > thinks the page size is the full sheet. It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: "12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06" 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 03:33:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C4910656A8 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9048FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo6V4-0006oS-P2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:18:08 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:33:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:33:34 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:33:40 -0000 --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > >Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > >>As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not > >>being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I > >>think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should > >>be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS > >>to the right printer. > > > >From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: > > > >http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=3Dprintable area#ppd_size_s > > > >How you get to that, I'm not sure. > > > >`lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS > >thinks the page size is the full sheet. >=20 > It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named=20 > /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in=20 > print/foomatic-db... >=20 > And it has > *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: "12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06" >=20 > 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to restart something to get that to take effect? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdI8OAAoJEIpckszW26+RzFUIAJnFGLaPag00I5x2/P6D/v3F vP1V0EVJCIdeaDgFexqQhzFldGRFt9rjjAFyDeRHCHZt7r6YftOCkmSr5/SRtRhq 1DoxksrvUjfWtYRoPhpGw8iIed/4HzjiHwoUNNPDUG2gM6ww+Ex5C8NNoNUZ1NX+ HtYAtGrY97htb7Wu+mJMAmuUImEnTzRxaSqE703uEDFvAZeN+XkL8WnCLNpB7tew oYl9Q6oNB4ND3m8Ymee8/afl25yY+KN4v/gSzgAzA1t4zt1RQU1fvw2cud+LlOSn 4oODEjSzCDtXeCNWjxxGSHNLmQMQ4fRuMz4ejPDmSIEQTjTFYEG8Gk/FBdWoDsQ= =TE6v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 06:41:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB3810656A7 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 442C78FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1305 invoked by uid 0); 25 Aug 2010 06:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2010 06:41:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ZgVT1sOeLfMrZ1h6fmDlE6qn0Rk9oQS9f3Dzr5Oqi3IXLGHIOyAkpjotTY8SLn4p6O4LGLN0HU3D2AtsveoqL+VyZadM22YEJ2ZjhsEwmxUzkINricuH+vNZuI+Zz3a/; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo9gG-0006YV-Fi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:41:53 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:39:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:39:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825063910.GB71916@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:41:54 -0000 --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:12:40PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > >CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. >=20 > Me too. That's why I use lpd. I'm considering it, at least for this laptop. Still, it would be nice to know how to fix this problem for cases where CUPS is a better fit. >=20 > Could you send me the PDF? sent off-list >=20 > As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not= =20 > being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I=20 > think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should= =20 > be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS= =20 > to the right printer. Support for the 4050 series was available with the default install. I just picked it from a list when setting up CUPS. That's one of the things I like about these well-known network attached HP PostScript laser printers. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx0uo4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXnmQCgih6QmE5EFIFqkE9OauNBTIGS dPsAoOUF8jDnXhDotUuEJlCajt+WAC6C =Grx+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 06:43:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7246310656A8 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 379E58FC1D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25354 invoked by uid 0); 25 Aug 2010 06:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2010 06:43:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=GkvD6Ma82WYM4oFWDJS3RLldW4E73QjU4KOrsg+vlZ2MZ1yT+IgUVUhrkTrHaNGlOJRjyGDizR6gyu8Eq7EiZT0Sp+VqoxHT3xnDqMIiRHDnVsjiWSBMmVCKDskeWa/K; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oo9iF-00005p-KW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:43:56 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:41:14 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:41:14 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:43:57 -0000 --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:33:34PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > >=20 > > It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named=20 > > /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in=20 > > print/foomatic-db... > >=20 > > And it has > > *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: "12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06" > >=20 > > 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. >=20 > Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried > doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to > restart something to get that to take effect? I suspect those correspond to the margin settings in GtkLP, but fiddling with those settings has zero observable effect on printing. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx0uwkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVCzQCeO7w3qjFLG5v+QqZF6i0ajPaL iO0AmwXR8jBraueaj0EC+HJhZRp/wctA =x705 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 09:38:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9551065695 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9168FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36FE1EA12; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7P9crcJ001572; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:38:55 -0000 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >> > >> The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. > >> > >> So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and > >> adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to > >> "intelligently" scale the page to fit your printer. > > > > CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. > > Me too. That's why I use lpd. If your printer can do PS, you don't need CUPS; lpd does everything. If you just need to convert printing output (which traditionally *is* PS) to PCL, you might be interested in using apsfilter. It's a lot more lightweight than CUPS, better documented, faster, easier to use. I do use it successfully with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, which's PS is slower than its PCL, so I use PCL. I also think that apsfilter keeps better to the tradidion and principles of UNIX, and it integrates better with the FreeBSD OS. \end{advocate} :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 11:03:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA2D1065673 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194268FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A336A3DA58; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7PB32Oe001856; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:03:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:03:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-Id: <20100825130302.c5d77c54.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:03:05 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:55:21 +0000, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > From "Polytropon" : > > > There is a way around this: Put the files to be transferred into > > a tar archive. In this way, only the archives name will have to > > obey 8.3, and its content will keep intact (case sensitive long > > file names); the only downside is that extraction in DOS will > > result in 8.3 filenames again (there's TAR.EXE for DOS). > > > Know that tar is the "most universal file system". :-) I did use > > this approach in the past when having to fransfer files between > > non-networked UNIX and Linux systems via floppy disk: Simply used > > tar directly on the device (which's device name was of course > > different on all the systems). > > Sort of a nuisance having to archive and extract every time, > I could even use gzip or bzip2 to create a .tgz or .tbz That's true. Maybe there could be some scripting solution involving a transfer directory. The main reason of tar is not about compression (which is not always even desired), but to create a "container". One idea further, much more "bare-bone". :-) Assume you have four slices ("primary DOS partitions") on your disk. One for FreeBSD, one for Linux, one for something else, one free. You can use tar to access the 4th slice directly, again without any file system, like this: linux# tar cf /dev/hda4 transfiles/* freebsd# tar xf /dev/ad0s4 But it's really just a transfer solution, no shared storage. > > I've also seen enclosures for hard disks including a CIFS share > > management system via their network connection. A built-in browser- > > accessible configuration tool can be used for customization. As > > there is no separate software on the hard disk itself, the disk > > can be replaced easily (if full or defective). This would be an > > acceptable add-on for the PC in a one-PC-setting. > > I'm not familiar with this, don't know how I'd set it up. They simply act as a NFS, CIFS or FTP server within your network. Those devices usually get an address from a DHCP server (maybe just like your PC does) and can then be accessed. NFS shares can be mounted in the usual way, and FTP client programs can access the FTP deamon running inside. I haven't noticable experience with CIFS, but I think it's more complicated - but not sure, never had to deal with "Windows". > > An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe that's > > not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a > > interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with built-in > > FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via FTP. > > There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs well > > in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to run > > a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a disk's > > partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of "FTP-backed > > file system", I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... > > I'm not familiar with this and wouldn't know how to set this up. > Check disk enclosures on http://www.compusa.com/ ? The "Sabrent" models seem to be something like I was talking about. Network connection is important, or else it would just be an external hard disk (connected by eSATA or USB). > From "Christer Solstrand Johannessen" : > > > I've successfully used CIFS/Samba and NFS between Linux, OpenBSD, > > FreeBSD, Solaris and Windows for years. Easy to set up and works well. > > > If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; with > > Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS > > clients are dodgy at best. > > Can this be done all within one computer, or do I need a second computer? Second computer, or maybe through some virtualisation solution (e. g. a Linux running in a VM on FreeBSD, exposing NFS mounts to the host OS). There would be the need for the same VM on every other OS you use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 09:49:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28611065672 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg.oza1987@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C518FC20 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so367764qyk.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:49:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bYTr+swS3cyatO/Z/iJ4p0VlP2w7E1DL9Wy2pkYty88=; b=v5dN6nP1T7ky11DHYhLOXLz01lYpmzWahKeRAL61sYKNC5o4uz31+VVwjz9/aeC0z1 VjWXiQwMEoWanLy3u4oNxqE9lrLzrZ8VbgdI5i2bxiStNDHYo7a7aKJRVRhGBQhWnec0 3BmKOjq/oSeUt3Rm+pWoUUIQeqN3H2mu+carg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lCErdXdUybMzW+NfoQhM3XvJtlnurjM36750uZYrs5KogM3kb4WFDd5nVfUGWjhVhI 43FbZwqfbD3gnRL7V6TGteaoD218WOObL9bnoQMEr+pIEdqFIz4DXVmbPFhvqFzdxiSS SvEL0KBy51Pg09sgSi+0rfgxae0Jthk3ihuPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.16 with SMTP id o16mr5336198qac.155.1282728380720; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.67.36 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:56:20 +0530 Message-ID: From: tejas oza To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:15:25 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: for the information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:49:56 -0000 Dear sir/madam, Myself Tejas Oza a student of post-graduation. I want to use Unix Operating system to run some of tools that are useful in my study. Please provide me information from where can i get it. and whether it is free or not? and if its free then please provide me the link for the same, to download image file. Thanking you, -- Tejas Oza From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 10:46:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0FE1065698 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2657B8FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-18-76-18.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.76.18]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100825104651H0200229obe>; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:46:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.76.18] Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:55:21 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:15:46 +0000 Cc: Bruce Cran , Andy Ruhl , Polytropon , Samuel =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Moro , Christer Solstrand Johannessen Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:46:56 -0000 >From "Samuel Martín Moro" : > the problem is not which version of mkfs (ext2fs) you use. > the problem is that BSD only handle ext2fs partitions with 128b inodes, while default value is 256. > when running mkfs/newfs, be sure to specify -I 128 > also, I won't recommand ntfs. > but, ntfs "works" correctly under BSD and Linux. > so, if you just want the partition to be read/writeable on both BSD and Linux, and don't wan't to use 128b inodes, nor ext2, you may wanna consider using fat (except the file size limit thing, it works great), or ntfs (quite ugly, but still working) This (mkfs/newfs for ext2fs) might be worth trying, at least on a partition where Linux is not installed. I could also try ntfs on an experimental basis. Between Linux, NetBSD and FreeBSD, I wouldn't have to worry about being compatible with Microsoft's latest version of ntfs. >From "Polytropon" : > There is a way around this: Put the files to be transferred into > a tar archive. In this way, only the archives name will have to > obey 8.3, and its content will keep intact (case sensitive long > file names); the only downside is that extraction in DOS will > result in 8.3 filenames again (there's TAR.EXE for DOS). > Know that tar is the "most universal file system". :-) I did use > this approach in the past when having to fransfer files between > non-networked UNIX and Linux systems via floppy disk: Simply used > tar directly on the device (which's device name was of course > different on all the systems). Sort of a nuisance having to archive and extract every time, I could even use gzip or bzip2 to create a .tgz or .tbz But FreeDOS, using the file software imported from Unix (ls and other) will show long file names on FAT32 or even a CD. > I've also seen enclosures for hard disks including a CIFS share > management system via their network connection. A built-in browser- > accessible configuration tool can be used for customization. As > there is no separate software on the hard disk itself, the disk > can be replaced easily (if full or defective). This would be an > acceptable add-on for the PC in a one-PC-setting. I'm not familiar with this, don't know how I'd set it up. > An option would be to avoid the file system level at all. Maybe that's > not a solution to your requirements, but let me mention this: In a > interoperability environment, I did use a disk enclosure with built-in > FTP server. In this way, all OSes can r/w access its content via FTP. > There are no limits regarding 8.3 filenames. Even MacOS X runs well > in such a setting. The downside, of course, is that you have to run > a FTP session for every transfer (instead of just mounting a disk's > partition), but it's basically no problem to use a kind of "FTP-backed > file system", I think I have seen this in some KDE or Gnome... I'm not familiar with this and wouldn't know how to set this up. Check disk enclosures on http://www.compusa.com/ ? >From "Christer Solstrand Johannessen" : > I've successfully used CIFS/Samba and NFS between Linux, OpenBSD, > FreeBSD, Solaris and Windows for years. Easy to set up and works well. > If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; with > Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS > clients are dodgy at best. Can this be done all within one computer, or do I need a second computer? >From "Andy Ruhl" : > I thought UDF was supposed to be the solution to all of this. A friend > of mine had a USB external hard disk formatted with UDF and it worked > fine with both Linux and Windows. I think it's not as common for > formatting magnetic disk based filesystems as it probably should be > though. It's mostly used for DVDs. I've heard of UDF, recognized it as a file system for DVDs, can't find it specifically on my system but find two DVD-related packages. /var/log/packages/dvd+rw-tools-7.1-i486-1 /var/log/packages/libdvdread-4.1.3-i486-1 >From "Bruce Cran" : > I've not tried it recently, but I think UFS (both UFS1 and UFS2 seem to > be supported) should work well; since 2.6.29 Linux has supported > writing to UFS too; you may need to recompile the kernel to add support > for writing depending on how old the kernel is, but > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt;h=7a602adeca2b7399f04b50232c838a9aec305712;hb=HEAD > says simply that ufs2 has read-write support. I see, I could use ufstype=44bsd. I've read a NetBSD partition that way from Linux but wasnn't sufficiently daring to attempt to write to it. I could try it on an experimental basis, on a partition where NetBSD or FreeBSD is not installed. Do something like newfs /dev/ad0s8? Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions! Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 12:05:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B21065675 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from 28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu (28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.12.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8440F8FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) By 28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C7501CE.BB2AA.25868 ; 25 Aug 2010 07:43:10 EDT Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C7501CD.4BA48.14567 ; Authuser web; 25 Aug 2010 07:43:09 EDT Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:38:34 -0400 From: William Bulley To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825113834.GA55637@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:05:28 -0000 For years I have run Open-Motif on FreeBSD without issue. I use a USB keyboard and a USB three button mouse attached to a Dell Optiplex 960. This combination has worked fine for the past year. This week I upgraded from 8.0-STABLE circa January 2010 to 8.1-STABLE. I do this by doing a buildworld/installworld sequence after csup-ing stable-supfile and rebooting. In this case I also pkg_deleted all of my ports and am rebuilding them from source. Building Xorg is one of the very first ports I attempt since I prefer to work in xterms not virtual terminals. This upgrade moved me from Xorg 7.3 to Xorg 7.5, but Open-Motif stayed the same - open-motif-2.2.3_6 - it hasn't changed in years. After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to generate my xorg.conf.new file. Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons confirmed that nothing had changed). My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Option "DontZap" "false" EndSection In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. As a normal user, I start Xorg using /usr/local/bin/xinit as always. I have several xterms configured in my ~/.xinitrc file. All those came up in the correct location and state. I was able to open those that started in iconic mode. In an open/raised xterm I could enter carriage returns and see my shell prompt move down the window. But when I tried to close/minimize an open/raised xterm, things failed. I use the following keyboard/mouse combination (configured in my .mwmrc file) to close (minimize) an xterm (and other applications): Shift window f.minimize This is also unchanged for some years. This particular setting has no bearing on the problem I came across yesterday. I merely state it for the record. However, this configuration triggers the "bug". The problem is as soon as I use that Shift/Btn3Click combination, my arrow cursor disappears, then I cannot move to or select other xterms - I am frozen, or locked, into the xterm I was trying to close/minimize. All I can do at this point is to kill(1) the /usr/local/bin/xinit command to return to the virtual terminal where I launched my Xorg session. I am now reluctantly using the good old /usr/local/bin/twm which is always built when Xorg is built from source. I am at a loss as to what to look for next. I suspect Xorg, or the keyboard and mouse driver, not the video driver, that came with. It might be a problem with hald(8), but again, I don't know how to debug this. Any help with this very odd bug would be greatly appreciated. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 12:30:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BFD1065670 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4220B8FC1B for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so173782gxk.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.196.13 with SMTP id t13mr1114190anf.65.1282739447890; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t30sm2088705ann.7.2010.08.25.05.30.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAB72E5480D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:30:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:30:43 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100825083043.3a68d100@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:49 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:55:21 +0000 Thomas Mueller articulated: > > If there are no Windows clients involved, I'd use NFS or AFS; with > > Windows in the mix, CIFS/Samba may be a better choice as Windows NFS > > clients are dodgy at best. That is not necessarily true anymore. I found this link: http://sagehacks.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/howto-mount-nfs-shares-under-windows-7/ I will be trying it myself in another week on a test machine I am setting up. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 12:42:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B3910656B1 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from acruhl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FC88FC26 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so660935iwn.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:42:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L7x1MuNH9O3EK+RM8kppDfJ1q9StwljSiyPDywjHDoA=; b=ZHiKkZD/lW+B8p65pEkcxvKY8HGX+TaZo6Tds8CoFy9puOvzviH/+dumVMH7vEetbR 4qO/0oGGwxwIWuXbxAP9W0TwdVMQuZQjkU5LDjomfx+jM/TbbAiGGbOme0BlxblR7K9n KWBsZ9q2DQwmlbulfLGXNsYQgTludnIft+g5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z8NT3XMVspjWaN2GSyt/yRsMO4x903RMLwp+iNd2lWQXangBpzI9qbLVhgjhCpneQJ XlLOnIMtJHif0+CS1IqQP08XZdF8FM80op9PtuWGXZWoH1/yhqmAdZhdxcSVFLAiQcFP cFR3D7A/dzp/V144OBklHZPZ/KkX3ItZuS46g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.187.194 with SMTP id cx2mr9189702ibb.165.1282738345383; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.158.131 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:12:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> References: <4c74f699.3qsMLYgGMzfteMje%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:12:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Andy Ruhl To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:55:49 +0000 Cc: Bruce Cran , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Christer Solstrand Johannessen , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:42:10 -0000 2010/8/25 Thomas Mueller : > From "Andy Ruhl" : > >> I thought UDF was supposed to be the solution to all of this. A friend >> of mine had a USB external hard disk formatted with UDF and it worked >> fine with both Linux and Windows. I think it's not as common for >> formatting magnetic disk based filesystems as it probably should be >> though. It's mostly used for DVDs. > > I've heard of UDF, recognized it as a file system for DVDs, can't find it specifically on my system but find two DVD-related packages. > > /var/log/packages/dvd+rw-tools-7.1-i486-1 > /var/log/packages/libdvdread-4.1.3-i486-1 $ uname NetBSD $ which newfs_udf /sbin/newfs_udf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDF_File_System It appears that NetBSD, Mac OSX, Linux (later 2.6) and Windows (later versions) support it the best. FreeBSD and OpenBSD, AIX and Solaris claim some level of support for it as well. Unless you're using FAT32 or a network CIFS, it appears to be the best supported filesystem to me, given that you are using the proper version of UDF. I'm guessing a Windows partition layout would be most compatible as well on a magnetic disk. Also note that UDF claims to be able to write and rewrite files directly to RW optical media. I've never used it much in practice though. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 12:44:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D2410656CD for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E048FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so610288vws.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sR/C76ubvqiDlqhM9nO/yMfUtO0XF8u3a1gFrJvlF44=; b=kfWNhedT1ggkHlnasWu/CTNxpe5/3gFBERmvOLll+zd1rc5fBfpDPkz+GDZLwxMNhB tqp3hARsHVy/LyDyu7xbhK8lrBlAgmb1cQhO41Sp2v4j6oiMs5H7ubEC4KoU4kvTvzyV lNOpSmWDRoQDaqu5zRDcHVD7nDzOMykLAeoTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=i/YR0N+k25q4DBsqwG9DhU0R3uNy8phAh8xNy4eh4dfWLvTYgr2bM1V2eek+SWfYK1 /oB9YSaFyj6NHdOOIfWRlyiNJwKfO/3QxpIukpB3+N6OSbjftt30gW4YgZM1A7raRBIg slh4QhUjM0wta9A1XgHnVQw3eKlvJ9o1MzOzE= Received: by 10.220.49.212 with SMTP id w20mr5269150vcf.246.1282740292564; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centel.dataix.local (adsl-99-181-132-33.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.181.132.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c24sm542974vcm.16.2010.08.25.05.44.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Message-ID: <4C751041.8040005@DataIX.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:44:49 -0400 From: jhell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tejas oza References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:56:08 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for the information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:44:58 -0000 On 08/25/2010 05:26, tejas oza wrote: > Dear sir/madam, > > Myself Tejas Oza a student of post-graduation. I want to use Unix Operating > system to run some of tools that are useful in my study. Please provide me > information from where can i get it. and whether it is free or not? and if > its free then please provide me the link for the same, to download image > file. > > Thanking you, You might want to try http://www.freebsd.org/ for starters. Good luck, -- jhell,v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:24:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B32C106564A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE788FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so564376qyk.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0yoXydg+cUDU1gSFzTHlc4b2orwqLTD1ytsy8zK9oxA=; b=oxSe89F9NUVDDl0qkKkGsHooIuGRyAeeqd16eebWMccOVigHk2g+g2+e7s4Ka9+VdV D4YvW2xoiljLb3G/3TIrBlLgxLfXFRTpx+i2+56XDb+Xe2MNFvGOplQ8oqtOydIm5ZLX BsvEkABIVq79duGiP3Dzfm4I8wzUgxgGPEbAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WBC7lIlux0zfQu0VEtygcRQ8UY2p7y02VTc3qdpkR/CWWJYmjQYoVtJhFAWs/lDpYs yrhIQfWrWjw2ONNLJ6wn9WNL0ketQeC2rjYILqQbSE97d7nrWYSj2ZyFxrzPkcETaSCl uYbMGDzWY0kXSM4Jt6TEdbqDrCDp2Rp3YfBPA= Received: by 10.224.97.233 with SMTP id m41mr5558830qan.221.1282742653325; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centel.dataix.local (adsl-99-181-132-33.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.181.132.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t18sm1531767qco.44.2010.08.25.06.24.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Message-ID: <4C75197A.3040106@DataIX.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:24:10 -0400 From: jhell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100825113834.GA55637@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20100825113834.GA55637@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:24:14 -0000 On 08/25/2010 07:38, William Bulley wrote: > For years I have run Open-Motif on FreeBSD without issue. > > I use a USB keyboard and a USB three button mouse attached to a Dell > Optiplex 960. This combination has worked fine for the past year. > > This week I upgraded from 8.0-STABLE circa January 2010 to 8.1-STABLE. > I do this by doing a buildworld/installworld sequence after csup-ing > stable-supfile and rebooting. In this case I also pkg_deleted all of > my ports and am rebuilding them from source. Building Xorg is one of > the very first ports I attempt since I prefer to work in xterms not > virtual terminals. > > This upgrade moved me from Xorg 7.3 to Xorg 7.5, but Open-Motif stayed > the same - open-motif-2.2.3_6 - it hasn't changed in years. > > After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to > generate my xorg.conf.new file. Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I > felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons > confirmed that nothing had changed). > > My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > Option "DontZap" "false" > EndSection > > In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has > not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. > > As a normal user, I start Xorg using /usr/local/bin/xinit as always. > I have several xterms configured in my ~/.xinitrc file. All those > came up in the correct location and state. I was able to open those > that started in iconic mode. In an open/raised xterm I could enter > carriage returns and see my shell prompt move down the window. But > when I tried to close/minimize an open/raised xterm, things failed. > > I use the following keyboard/mouse combination (configured in my > .mwmrc file) to close (minimize) an xterm (and other applications): > > Shift window f.minimize > > This is also unchanged for some years. This particular setting has > no bearing on the problem I came across yesterday. I merely state > it for the record. However, this configuration triggers the "bug". > > The problem is as soon as I use that Shift/Btn3Click combination, > my arrow cursor disappears, then I cannot move to or select other > xterms - I am frozen, or locked, into the xterm I was trying to > close/minimize. All I can do at this point is to kill(1) the > /usr/local/bin/xinit command to return to the virtual terminal > where I launched my Xorg session. > > I am now reluctantly using the good old /usr/local/bin/twm which > is always built when Xorg is built from source. I am at a loss > as to what to look for next. I suspect Xorg, or the keyboard and > mouse driver, not the video driver, that came with. It might be > a problem with hald(8), but again, I don't know how to debug this. > > Any help with this very odd bug would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu > > 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Though I can't really help you with the mouse disapearing I can say if you wish to modify you key-map to allow ctrl+alt+bksp you can add this to your .xinitrc ( setxkbmap -option "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" ) Regards & Good luck, -- jhell,v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:33:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD201065675 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC29F8FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C751BC4.53903.1181 ; Authuser web; 25 Aug 2010 09:33:56 EDT Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:29:21 -0400 From: William Bulley To: jhell Message-ID: <20100825132921.GJ55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: jhell , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:33:58 -0000 According to jhell on Wed, 08/25/10 at 09:24: > On 08/25/2010 07:38, William Bulley wrote: > > For years I have run Open-Motif on FreeBSD without issue. > > > > I use a USB keyboard and a USB three button mouse attached to a Dell > > Optiplex 960. This combination has worked fine for the past year. > > > > This week I upgraded from 8.0-STABLE circa January 2010 to 8.1-STABLE. > > I do this by doing a buildworld/installworld sequence after csup-ing > > stable-supfile and rebooting. In this case I also pkg_deleted all of > > my ports and am rebuilding them from source. Building Xorg is one of > > the very first ports I attempt since I prefer to work in xterms not > > virtual terminals. > > > > This upgrade moved me from Xorg 7.3 to Xorg 7.5, but Open-Motif stayed > > the same - open-motif-2.2.3_6 - it hasn't changed in years. > > > > After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to > > generate my xorg.conf.new file. Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I > > felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons > > confirmed that nothing had changed). > > > > My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: > > > > Section "ServerFlags" > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > > Option "DontZap" "false" > > EndSection > > > > In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has > > not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. > > > > As a normal user, I start Xorg using /usr/local/bin/xinit as always. > > I have several xterms configured in my ~/.xinitrc file. All those > > came up in the correct location and state. I was able to open those > > that started in iconic mode. In an open/raised xterm I could enter > > carriage returns and see my shell prompt move down the window. But > > when I tried to close/minimize an open/raised xterm, things failed. > > > > I use the following keyboard/mouse combination (configured in my > > .mwmrc file) to close (minimize) an xterm (and other applications): > > > > Shift window f.minimize > > > > This is also unchanged for some years. This particular setting has > > no bearing on the problem I came across yesterday. I merely state > > it for the record. However, this configuration triggers the "bug". > > > > The problem is as soon as I use that Shift/Btn3Click combination, > > my arrow cursor disappears, then I cannot move to or select other > > xterms - I am frozen, or locked, into the xterm I was trying to > > close/minimize. All I can do at this point is to kill(1) the > > /usr/local/bin/xinit command to return to the virtual terminal > > where I launched my Xorg session. > > > > I am now reluctantly using the good old /usr/local/bin/twm which > > is always built when Xorg is built from source. I am at a loss > > as to what to look for next. I suspect Xorg, or the keyboard and > > mouse driver, not the video driver, that came with. It might be > > a problem with hald(8), but again, I don't know how to debug this. > > > > Any help with this very odd bug would be greatly appreciated. > > Though I can't really help you with the mouse disapearing I can say if > you wish to modify you key-map to allow ctrl+alt+bksp you can add this > to your .xinitrc ( setxkbmap -option "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" ) Thanks. Interestingly enough, I do have this line in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: Section "InputDevice" Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" EndSection But that never has seemed to work. :-( I will try your suggestion. I hope it works, although killing the xinit process is not much more difficult. Of course, your suggestion (and my workaround) to return to the virtual terminal command line depends upon a working keyboard... :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:45:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE801065696 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zats@mail.ru) Received: from fallback3.mail.ru (fallback3.mail.ru [94.100.176.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6308FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f249.mail.ru (f249.mail.ru [217.69.128.174]) by fallback3.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id C832B31340EC for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:05:39 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mail by f249.mail.ru with local id 1OoEjU-0003mY-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:05:32 +0400 Received: from [94.138.11.179] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:05:32 +0400 From: Mikhail Zatsepin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [94.138.11.179] Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:05:32 +0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Cc: Subject: Net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mikhail Zatsepin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:45:14 -0000 I could not find out from the site and the release which proxy server is used in FreeBSD as a standard one. Where we can look for it? --- MZ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:47:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4191065696 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7577F8FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so801081wyb.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aRzLU3ZuGWw1pqGbS594HdCVnIfZn9Y/JiuZbd+MSeM=; b=Du6riZGRgTZJnTogcOyuTyUTIMNEkcUCIoBRKl2vckYl5VqmmNk9tFLiX3t6yFPkKT cK3DhsOkFpXBN1pcCdCl3gkJdwvAGt8kv98NOXq0daSmIzWqu76pogKb35+7aGjU9TiG 75XXmneoL55XvdHq6TjWKgf2bO72MHKVWLpwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=u9TRiZZcZtMTh5J1z5a93mhZdHxkTJNZLXybpLF70hHCCGmFCb3AlvAPnt+ROe583m AcjL+PSBmKUz8ZXAibADKkN9OvmYNYgjDdDVB3vapsYTyB/RozewWrHU5v63K3Xvajzh NyTah8/NwtiHs2V5INcnvlEd3+ydEwCqGrAs0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.147 with SMTP id h19mr6916611wbv.222.1282744031261; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.131.1 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:47:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Diego Arias To: Mikhail Zatsepin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:47:13 -0000 2010/8/25 Mikhail Zatsepin > I could not find out from the site and the release which proxy server is > used in FreeBSD as a standard one. > Where we can look for it? > > --- > MZ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > There is no "standard" proxy. I use squid 3 on FreeBSD and works ok. -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:49:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6022510656A6 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7AE8FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PDnMre031199; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:49:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7PDnMYE031196; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:49:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:49:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20100825113834.GA55637@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <20100825113834.GA55637@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:49:23 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, William Bulley wrote: > After building Xorg, as root, I ran the "Xorg -configure" command to > generate my xorg.conf.new file. Since a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file was still around after the upgrade from 8.0-STABLE/Xorg 7.3, I > felt no need to change anything in that file (later file comparisons > confirmed that nothing had changed). > > My only relevant additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf are these: > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > Option "DontZap" "false" > EndSection > > In my /etc/rc.conf file I have dbus and hald enabled, and that has > not changed since the beginning of 2010 after the confusion abated. If you are running hald, why not use it? And the DontZap default is back to where it used to be (off), so you could remove or comment that entire ServerFlags section. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 13:57:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E04D10656A6 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9968FC1F for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PDvTMr031232; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:57:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7PDvTuD031229; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:57:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:57:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:57:33 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:33:34PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >> Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: >>> >>> It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named >>> /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in >>> print/foomatic-db... >>> >>> And it has >>> *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: "12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06" >>> >>> 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. >> >> Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried >> doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to >> restart something to get that to take effect? > > I suspect those correspond to the margin settings in GtkLP, but fiddling > with those settings has zero observable effect on printing. Applications should be able to get those values from the PPD. The PDF in question has a top margin of 18 points, a bottom margin of 21 points, and a printed area height and width of about 576 and 755. It fits within the printable area of most lasers, and prints fine on my LJ4250. The bottom will be cut off on a lot of inkjets due to their paper feed. For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 14:02:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E09106567A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F058A8FC19 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C752284.D01C2.20324 ; Authuser web; 25 Aug 2010 10:02:44 EDT Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:58:09 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100825135809.GL55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:02:46 -0000 According to Warren Block on Wed, 08/25/10 at 09:49: > > If you are running hald, why not use it? And the DontZap default is > back to where it used to be (off), so you could remove or comment that > entire ServerFlags section. Not sure what you mean by using hald. Assuming I knew how to use hald, how would that solve my problem of the disappearing mouse pointer and consequent loss of functionality of my window manager? Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 14:03:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C85E106567A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EDC8FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09BF3D45B; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:03:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7PE3AQD002308; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:03:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:03:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: William Bulley Message-Id: <20100825160310.760adad6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100825132921.GJ55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> References: <20100825132921.GJ55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:03:13 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:29:21 -0400, William Bulley wrote: > Interestingly enough, I do have this line in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: > > Section "InputDevice" > Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > EndSection > > But that never has seemed to work. :-( In case you're using HAL + DBUS, the setting now has to be coded in XML in some arbitrary file at a decentral location buried deep in the /usr/local subtree. According to the handbook 5.4.2 Configuring X11 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html this is /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi with terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp as well as /etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to be added Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "off" EndSection And the handbook also suggests a reboot (?!) to make sure HAL will pick up the new setting. Next time, you will have to reboot in order to make a mouse pointer position change visible. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:03:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A8A10656E8 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3208FC0A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PF30ed031437; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:03:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7PF30EC031434; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:03:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:03:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20100825135809.GL55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <20100825135809.GL55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:03:01 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, William Bulley wrote: > According to Warren Block on Wed, 08/25/10 at 09:49: >> >> If you are running hald, why not use it? And the DontZap default is >> back to where it used to be (off), so you could remove or comment that >> entire ServerFlags section. > > Not sure what you mean by using hald. Assuming I knew how to use hald, > how would that solve my problem of the disappearing mouse pointer and > consequent loss of functionality of my window manager? You are telling xorg-server to not use hald with the AutoAddDevices line: > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > Option "DontZap" "false" > EndSection And the other option is already a default. So removing or commenting that section would let xorg-server use hald. I don't know if this will affect your window manager. Probably not, but worth testing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:14:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AF11065694 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922D68FC16 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17039 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2010 15:14:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Aug 2010 15:14:34 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 17EB75082C; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Alain G. Fabry" References: <20100824122525.GA78226@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:14:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100824122525.GA78226@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> (Alain G. Fabry's message of "Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:25:25 +0200") Message-ID: <4462yy67xj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript-8.71 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:14:35 -0000 "Alain G. Fabry" writes: > Trying to update ghostscript, but seems to fail. Can somebody provide me with info on how to solve this? It seems to build fine on the build cluster. Make sure you clean the work directories and update any dependencies before trying again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:17:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24D51065670 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluffy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ns.ael.RU (ns.ael.ru [62.76.207.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E68FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Fluffy.Khv.RU ([188.168.9.85]) by ns.ael.RU (8.14.3/8.14.3/Fluffy/5.3) with ESMTP id o7PF6v6T025091; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:06:58 +1100 (VLAST) (envelope-from fluffy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from Fluffy.Khv.RU (fluffy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Fluffy.Khv.RU (8.14.4/8.14.4/Fluffy/5.4.1) with ESMTP id o7PF5GBd021537; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:05:50 +1100 (VLAST) (envelope-from fluffy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from fluffy@localhost) by Fluffy.Khv.RU (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7PF4LSN021520; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:04:21 +1100 (VLAST) (envelope-from fluffy@FreeBSD.org) From: Dima Panov Organization: The FreeBSD Project To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Polytropon Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:04:19 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-900016-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.0; amd64; ; ) References: <20100825132921.GJ55269@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <20100825160310.760adad6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100825160310.760adad6.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Face: "RE-2'yS-N:*/7DHOjQ%Az<.+SG>K7B'k(&; qb0K4]Hv>J}"l9,=:m2_]-3S/}`b\]yA-g !y3en*Zl(i-86iM?Q[w@!=rW&JdT>KHW@dri>+qMcy42O, 5#izEqa-K+=B<@A X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ns.ael.RU [62.76.207.226]); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:07:02 +1100 (VLAST) Cc: Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:17:31 -0000 On Thursday 26 August 2010 01:03:10 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:29:21 -0400, William Bulley wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I do have this line in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > > EndSection > > > > But that never has seemed to work. :-( > > In case you're using HAL + DBUS, the setting now has to be coded > in XML in some arbitrary file at a decentral location buried deep > in the /usr/local subtree. According to the handbook > > 5.4.2 Configuring X11 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html > > this is /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi with > > > > > > terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > > as well as /etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to be added > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "DontZap" "off" > EndSection > > And the handbook also suggests a reboot (?!) to make sure HAL will > pick up the new setting. Next time, you will have to reboot in order > to make a mouse pointer position change visible. :-) > By the way, configureing input options via hald doesn't work for me X itself got flags from hal, write correct logfile about layout and options (us+ru+typo), keys for layout switching, but really it doesn't work. configuring keyboard via xorg.conf give me working layout, but no lvl3 (typographic symbols) So all options now konfigured via KDE system settings, which call setxkbmap when init session my /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi evdev evdev kbd evdev hal-setup-keymap base pc104 us,ru ,winkeys grp:ctr_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,altwin:meta_win,lv3:ralt_switch,misc:typo [fluffy@Fluffy] /> uname -a FreeBSD Fluffy.Khv.RU 9.0-900016-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-900016-CURRENT #1 r211145M: Wed Aug 11 13:06:07 VLAST 2010 root@Fluffy.Khv.RU:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Spot amd64 -- Dima "Red Fox" Panov @ Home | C73E 2B72 1FFD 61BD E206 1234 A626 76ED 93E3 B018 Khabarovsk, Russia | 2D30 2CCB 9984 130C 6F87 BAFC FB8B A09D D539 8F29 KDE@FreeBSD Team | FreeBSD committer since 10.08.2009 | FreeBSD since Sept 1995 Twitter: fluffy_khv | Skype: dima.panov | Jabber.[org|ru]/GTalk/QIP: fluffy.khv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:21:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2751A10656B5 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36BA98FC46 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 986 invoked by uid 0); 25 Aug 2010 15:21:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2010 15:21:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Z3fJumNAG5WtukcqGAeYckzzBqYYI0rdgEYD9inDOYgq2voZV5tYhldiw+Ri7dvFuseYXW/tHogrDhPae7RoWQNsEBz1tmqxv/focChepA22F5lDJZ5xfmzH7V8p9N0A; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoHnH-0002KQ-D6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:21:40 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:18:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:18:56 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825151856.GA74267@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:21:42 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >=20 > For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the=20 > printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it=20 > really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): >=20 > # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 >=20 > If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. > If it prints fine, it's CUPS. That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS settings. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx1NGAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW/CwCcC3bqP1I1JXKcNAtSOmEkmyIH MwUAoPYb+2gOnjzo4loOyz4zGHJaekRB =H/ox -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:30:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0661F1065694 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1D228FC20 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9960 invoked by uid 0); 25 Aug 2010 15:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2010 15:30:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WkCgk6VbE7M3TdzwrN/mVCh//eAe+XTA70dQzEwu/XRRezAM77KHm40iJOEXgrHjxfevN5xweyva7fKrqUXs+NdrImVU7/s4KUS0I3GwKjXX9zPdQCZHIyz7PE+9lymA; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoHvR-0005Ba-CX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:30:06 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:27:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:27:20 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:30:09 -0000 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:38:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > If your printer can do PS, you don't need CUPS; lpd does everything. >=20 > If you just need to convert printing output (which traditionally *is* > PS) to PCL, you might be interested in using apsfilter. It's a lot > more lightweight than CUPS, better documented, faster, easier to > use. I do use it successfully with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, which's > PS is slower than its PCL, so I use PCL. I also think that apsfilter > keeps better to the tradidion and principles of UNIX, and it integrates > better with the FreeBSD OS. Is there much I'd need to know about apsfilter to use it with lpd? It seems to just be a filter used to process input and dump output, probably used in combination with lpr via pipes -- am I wrong about that? If that's the case, I'm sure it would be pretty straightforward. I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. I'd still like to understand how to solve the problem I'm having with CUPS, for my own edification, but whether I use the fix on this laptop in the long run or end up switching to lpd (with or without apsfilter) is still under consideration. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx1NlgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWJLQCgtZkzpwUL6Dh2D5NJWCKfxisQ VGgAn2QFKKV8/3xPNVvRwdJ2bFxuvh5x =7b2L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 15:53:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DEC1065672 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381CF8FC1A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoI3H-0005gu-WC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:38:13 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:53:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:53:43 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100825155343.GQ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> <20100825151856.GA74267@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hCenlVgnDQUGHXTR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100825151856.GA74267@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:53:48 -0000 --hCenlVgnDQUGHXTR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 25 August 2010: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >=20 > > For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the=20 > > printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it= =20 > > really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): > >=20 > > # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 > >=20 > > If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. > > If it prints fine, it's CUPS. >=20 > That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS > settings. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] It didn't work at all for my OfficeJet. Apparently that printer doesn't know PostScript, because all I got was a bunch of garbage with some PostScript commands mixed in. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --hCenlVgnDQUGHXTR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMdTyHAAoJEIpckszW26+RGE0H/0A7RKCBuzdOnCMN5feOZbOX 6N5jSim3kqrjFrzd/ZI8GV2ZVq/yZLxcVx2z2LsLBpUJg1NQCdj9ecV9rsBslW67 ldn9SHIlW65wbKNIKr8vxyBRpcOKf1+19kRteth/bn7lvY/h/+Ic62hOiDcLPNGF /lRgIayLqv+KkvwUmfz5outsIsK2XMoaqqnQZ86e1vGqOXERmyCYmCnWvSWId6mI 46mu5o/t24E0Jt8K47S0+VTcF1VonVMa33xJS08eo8g9scTiA16u6cvWlTuSRQIV oB9gcJf64GKMTXL7J1spRJpwdv5D0K1Neku3h/XNkjwpgWTs9qImc2fj9+lVE0I= =TUSN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hCenlVgnDQUGHXTR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 16:20:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425F4106566B for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDAC8FC1E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PG44he000636 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:04:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: (from elon@localhost) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7PG44OQ000635 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:04:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:04:04 +0200 From: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100825160404.GF3762@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:20:55 -0000 Hi, after binary upgrading to freebsd8.1 from 7.2 i encounter an error with openldap24, cyrus-sasl2 and kerberos: # ldapsearch uid=whatever SASL/GSSAPI authentication started ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80) additional info: SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: No credentials were supplied, or the credentials were unavailable or inaccessible. (unknown mech-code 0 for mech unknown) Simple binding to the ldap server does work. The KDC behind this is still on kerberos 0.6.3 (FreeBSD7.3) and there have been reported Problems with such a setup, but as i can login through ssh and kerberos i suppose these [1] don't apply here (also already tested the proposed changes). If anybody got any insight please share. Thanks in Advance, Leon [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-October/052217.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 16:52:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CF0106564A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaigner@setnine.com) Received: from mail.grouponeinv.com (mail.grouponeinv.com [209.119.13.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8773B8FC14 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.grouponeinv.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFCEFE861C for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.grouponeinv.com Received: from mail.grouponeinv.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.grouponeinv.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X6dkNDiDSFJn for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.111] (c-67-162-7-76.hsd1.il.comcast.net [67.162.7.76]) by mail.grouponeinv.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B802FFE861B for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C75458E.6000603@setnine.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:32:14 -0500 From: Jeff Aigner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Python cdll.LoadLibrary() Segfault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:52:10 -0000 Hello, I am trying to use ctypes in python to load some external libs, and python segfaults when I try to load libc.so.6. This error occurs with both python 2.5.5 and python 2.6.5. Here's what happens: jeffdev# python Python 2.5.5 (r255:77872, Aug 25 2010, 12:17:48) [GCC 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD]] on freebsd7 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from ctypes import * >>> cdll.LoadLibrary("/usr/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2") >>> cdll.LoadLibrary("/usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6") Segmentation fault (core dumped) jeffdev# Also note that I have to give the full path to the libraries, even when I try to set the environment variable $LD_LIBRARY_PATH Some more info: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Any idea as to what is happening here, or what I can do to try and get around this issue? Jeff Aigner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 17:04:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069ED1065670 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6B8FC17 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so344634ywt.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:04:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rGh5iD0lptLTRqWjAKbbl/6z6RQevy5riXNziJQYfKo=; b=T2XzoHxNpuhRElaRP4dAeipk2eKEo0oL7BSmgK/fbUx1ttqLBPpMBLsHdWy0hKSkhk mW/4IJ/tZZ1KAHf1bN3EUTQQqXU6zuqDBmLqTKk7cBwLXyyOQnONsmqvCizDoVNiRq4w JqGRYUvxXrEX5JNiWetYIXr/MyDJiTaEramDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qmgz9e0kcafkZlHn5bShi1QG/gO2QajufpCNTHNaqYuwy/35jgfEAi0MZa246uRz/w uouH4LpAj7TQ9zaU6kgOxbn5HpP2WrszH47BfnLqs7xqaZTS454awwfr6bG87LDBltLX iN1x8TwghlK8Kb5ifHwd7fuFlHM6YDRC5Ya2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.14.8 with SMTP id r8mr8763656ybi.398.1282755844400; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.141 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:34:02 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: chunk 'ad1s4 ;ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:04:08 -0000 Hi , I am trying to install freebsd on a acer 5745. I have allocated 50 gb of free space and i select it for free bsd slice . but in the next screen i get these error chunk 'ad1s4 ;ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary and free bsd defaults to using entire hardisk. the problem is there is some sort of a 128 mb reserved partition in HDD (as shown from windows) which i fear shouldnt be formatted (I used entire disk option last time and system got stuck in bios splash ;had to send the lappy for service after that; just got the laptop back :-)) Please advise. thanks, Mubeesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 17:16:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9AE10656A3 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128BB8FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yghq1e00C0FhH24A4hGCEr; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:16:12 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yhFf1e00G02K3z28UhGBvT; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:16:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:16:11 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Mubeesh ali X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:16:13 -0000 That would be your recovery partition from Acer, I would presume. On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Mubeesh ali wrote: > Hi , >=20 > I am trying to install freebsd on a acer 5745. I have allocated 50 gb > of free space and i select it for free bsd slice . but in the next > screen i get these error >=20 > chunk 'ad1s4 ;ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary and > free bsd defaults to using entire hardisk. the problem is there is > some sort of a 128 mb reserved partition in HDD (as shown from > windows) which i fear shouldnt be formatted (I used entire disk option > last time and system got stuck in bios splash ;had to send the lappy > for service after that; just got the laptop back :-)) >=20 >=20 > Please advise. >=20 >=20 > thanks, > Mubeesh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 17:28:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDEF1065673 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007DF8FC19 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1069791wyb.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CUkq5CC9aVeg/FgDdUNZmz/hyrGZYZ/4C1rRd7Qn/6Y=; b=OjSSy/7z746btx2QSMTICZOy0LRqSaOpZUKTnbGL0FxCjT2c+fhsfuycXQI4IocBWB Lb8fjwlyYFbS5VRxWJD/iH6JBYcpIPIWEY7gtckIElsC7iWvg+fxNWilF9UGMx9Ah/h2 ff+Y+KHAk1JtY/GnfDi2kZ/38yUhNRlLBbW20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cngnY24Y4ax2aCNFX9jmIxPSngQn/mOGM7q8vxqm8Zdppw4XKYCxuU980jWwKbaTRV QNed97Fu9U1CN6CFqff8TsnIBFvaR8jkonxcfPeWIIeSMWqloAJS7JCHwZljsMLQ5qTt 4OafT6SI690any6ToErkoLVxeTNxF6fQiNqrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.149 with SMTP id m21mr7437995wbj.217.1282757293731; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.179.201 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:28:13 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Ryan Coleman , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:28:15 -0000 you can make a hdd image and then play safely with the hdd. if things go bag, you can just restore the image ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 18:07:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1521065693 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA748FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9B624ABF; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7PI7KhH001513; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:07:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:07:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100825200719.297340d6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:23 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:27:20 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > Is there much I'd need to know about apsfilter to use it with lpd? No, just make sure to compile it with options PAGE=A4 PAPERSIZE=a4 A4=yes in /etc/make.conf if you need ISO A4 support. It is basically dialog-driven (/usr/local/share/apsfilter/SETUP) and self-explaining. Just select printer name, connection, paper, and quality. If you want to add specific GS options (it uses Ghostscript to convert PS into printer languages, such as PCL), you can do this via an easy configuration file, e. g. that's the way I got my duplexer working correctly. > It > seems to just be a filter used to process input and dump output, probably > used in combination with lpr via pipes -- am I wrong about that? That's right; in /etc/printcap, there are references to apsfilter only; here's an example: Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: This is created by the apsfilter SETUP program, so no need to deal with this manually (but you CAN if you want to); apsfilter keeps its config in /usr/local/etc/apsfilter. To extent the example started, I have /usr/local/etc/apsfilter/Laserjet/apsfilterrc: PRINTER='ljet4d' PAPERSIZE='a4' METHOD='auto' QUALITY='high' COLOR='full' RESOLUTION='600x600' INTERFACE='parallel' GS_FEATURES='-q -dBATCH -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" -sDeviceModel="HP LaserJet" -dDuplex=true -dIjsUseOutputFD -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600' HARDWARE_DUPLEX=set DUPLEX=duplex It's basically a repeatition from /etc/printcap so the filters used by apsfilter itself can be properly configured. A central file is also present as /usr/local/etc/apsfilter/apsfilterrc where you can configure recoders, filters, pretty printing and other stuff, e. g. you can just % lpr foo.png to print a picture, or % grep "void" bar.c | lpr to get some "stylish" pretty printed output. (By the way, I did switch that off as it de-arranges source code.) > If > that's the case, I'm sure it would be pretty straightforward. It's a quite old program complex, but yes - it never failed on getting my old printers working that CUPS didn't even support. Just try to add a parallel printer with CUPS that is currently *not* connected and therefore *not* online. :-) > I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle > straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to > see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file > format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. If PS is fast enough - use it, and get rid of the overhead bloat. In my case, I intendedly wanted to use PCL as PS works, but is too slow in comparison to PCL. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 18:07:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502741065695 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E0D8FC28 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so341194gxk.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pC7IFdLD0pDtv1BCSf/Q9FIdOIH66KvflLsJUFLgivY=; b=mR9BiNUAoB0dpWI1iNcKUamI1HnXiL4GWoZXeYm6ooKe4hm47qF8tTGXJgP2p3UP9z OPOtTltzQBC0tCvIc/Pkvtx05H1UBFakBtJPaH737QqKNroR2Cvjr9zHBvhHhD5XolNO iyhFhe5bviojpXeU2ofgx6vhLcMPDBixvwCxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Bw2UD1Wtc5IYOFhlLOB+Px99lgpyag/huaKEz6HVO3arHgas4eB4ZNi6Nn6MovzeoW Z3mb6lSYK7mFLnUinMmJaVVYa9ShJt+3a3QMR8h1aP4GBPDF9mvD+67uIGSH1wOanE9H nB3o9IDBtwkXoLbA0ojpZYRRCQaKDuzkt5ThM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.101.14 with SMTP id y14mr5958655agb.64.1282759659794; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.141 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:07:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:37:39 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: claudiu vasadi , Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:07:41 -0000 yes you are right :-) . it is a 100 mb recovery partition created by windows 7 which can be safely formatted. however is there a way we can we have bsd not to format all partitions ; i have ubuntu on a partition (in which 3g usb modem (my only internet connection) works after some tweaking ) . thanks, Mubeesh On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:58 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > you can make a hdd image and then play safely with the hdd. if things go > bag, you can just restore the image ;) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://li partitsts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 18:31:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39410656A3 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DD88FC16 for ; 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Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.141 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:31:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:01:35 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: claudiu vasadi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:31:37 -0000 yes. there is an un allocated 50 gb space (deleted a partition using win 7 partition tools) and we created a feebsd slice in the unallocated space while running sysinstall ....However in the next screen; i guess where it should give us an option to partition the freebsd slice into root,home,swap etc ? it throws this error about the track boundary and it defaults to use the entire disk. sure i will double check the procedure in handbook. thanks, Mubeesh On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > of course there is. if you have empty space, create a freebsd slice and y= our > set. > > handbook - instalation section section 2.6 is EXACTLY what you need, but = I > strongly recommend reading the handbook (as much as possible) > --=20 Best=A0 Regards, Mubeesh Ali.V.M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 18:45:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755FF106566B for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338578FC1D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o7PIh0Yu064280; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:43:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o7PIh06H064279; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:43:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:43:00 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: tejas oza Message-ID: <20100825184300.GC63993@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for the information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:45:08 -0000 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:56:20PM +0530, tejas oza wrote: > Dear sir/madam, > > Myself Tejas Oza a student of post-graduation. I want to use Unix Operating > system to run some of tools that are useful in my study. Please provide me > information from where can i get it. and whether it is free or not? and if > its free then please provide me the link for the same, to download image > file. Start at http://www.freebsd.org/ There you will find complete documentation in the Handbook plus additional FAQs about certain issues, links to all the distributions and the place to sign up for Email lists - I suggest signing up for at least freebsd-questions and freebsd-announce and there may be a couple of others you might like. If you have no experience in UNIX, then it will take some studying to become familiar with it. There are several books available. Some are more specific to FreeBSD and some are general UNIX books. There is a link to some of these on that freebsd web site also. At first it might seem too difficult, but some persistence will pay off and in the end your effort to learn will be worth the work. ////jerry > > Thanking you, > -- > Tejas Oza > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 19:34:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6C51065679 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539ED8FC12 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946E71CC59; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:33:59 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 946E71CC59 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1282764839; bh=rpv0V6+306dwptdXAmedjbwjjVQ32wHiIlYn9AEoexM=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O0V1+udkDEogUOzA/5yoVL22np2ihBFxK7GP7eM2/Zp3X501HaMHCATZ3VXsA5mjm UODtMwSumjpbaotGJzB8BOc0v3agrTOHCLJUdnvTDZjoj2UpM3XOp/sgQ/+ZvGSSqR aeUuUBN/usFTOtcRW3t92fx4rlV7MC3Di32uylmw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id H1PDVfRulj0K; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:33:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14DCB1CC6C; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:33:54 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 14DCB1CC6C Message-ID: <1DA6D3678D2745999DA4F00266376495@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?LeonMe=DFner?= , References: <20100825160404.GF3762@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20100825160404.GF3762@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:34:27 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:34:32 -0000 Sadly the GSSAPI/Kerberos has been broken in 8.x for a good while now.=20 You can either install the heimdal or MIT port, although getting that=20 to work in stead of the base can be messy. kern/147454 PR actually has a working fix, although I'm not sure if it=20 applies cleanly as it's pretty big - I managed to get working GSSAPI=20 with it on 8.1 PRERELEASE. See also discussion at=20 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-July/057734.html -Reko -------------------------------------------------- From: "LeonMe=DFner" Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:04 PM To: Subject: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade > Hi, > > after binary upgrading to freebsd8.1 from 7.2 i encounter an error > with openldap24, cyrus-sasl2 and kerberos: > > # ldapsearch uid=3Dwhatever > SASL/GSSAPI authentication started > ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Other (e.g., implementation specific) > error (80) > additional info: SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: No > credentials were supplied, or the credentials were unavailable or > inaccessible. (unknown mech-code 0 for mech unknown) > > Simple binding to the ldap server does work. The KDC behind this is > still on kerberos 0.6.3 (FreeBSD7.3) and there have been reported > Problems with such a setup, but as i can login through ssh and=20 > kerberos > i suppose these [1] don't apply here (also already tested the=20 > proposed > changes). > > If anybody got any insight please share. > > Thanks in Advance, > Leon > > [1] > = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-October/052217.htm= l > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 19:47:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3781065673 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633948FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PJlH5s067929; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:47:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: (from elon@localhost) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7PJlH5L067928; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:47:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:47:17 +0200 From: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= To: Reko Turja Message-ID: <20100825194717.GB51165@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> References: <20100825160404.GF3762@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> <1DA6D3678D2745999DA4F00266376495@rivendell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1DA6D3678D2745999DA4F00266376495@rivendell> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: =?iso-8859-15?Q?LeonMe=DFner?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:47:19 -0000 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:34:27PM +0300, Reko Turja wrote: > Sadly the GSSAPI/Kerberos has been broken in 8.x for a good while now. > You can either install the heimdal or MIT port, although getting that > to work in stead of the base can be messy. > > kern/147454 PR actually has a working fix, although I'm not sure if it > applies cleanly as it's pretty big - I managed to get working GSSAPI > with it on 8.1 PRERELEASE. I'll try that. > See also discussion at > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-July/057734.html Following the link in the other thread to http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/055017.html i made the changes to /usr/bin/krb5-config: # diff /usr/bin/krb5-config /usr/bin/krb5-config.org 96c96 < lib_flags="$lib_flags -lgssapi -lgssapi_spnego -lgssapi_krb5 -lheimntlm" --- > lib_flags="$lib_flags -lgssapi -lheimntlm" After that, rebuilding openldap+dependencies makes it work again. I suppose this is quite dirty and i have to see if it introduces other problems. Thanks, leon > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "LeonMeßner" > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:04 PM > To: > Subject: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade > > > Hi, > > > > after binary upgrading to freebsd8.1 from 7.2 i encounter an error > > with openldap24, cyrus-sasl2 and kerberos: > > > > # ldapsearch uid=whatever > > SASL/GSSAPI authentication started > > ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Other (e.g., implementation specific) > > error (80) > > additional info: SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: No > > credentials were supplied, or the credentials were unavailable or > > inaccessible. (unknown mech-code 0 for mech unknown) > > > > Simple binding to the ldap server does work. The KDC behind this is > > still on kerberos 0.6.3 (FreeBSD7.3) and there have been reported > > Problems with such a setup, but as i can login through ssh and > > kerberos > > i suppose these [1] don't apply here (also already tested the > > proposed > > changes). > > > > If anybody got any insight please share. > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > Leon > > > > [1] > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-October/052217.html > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 20:00:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7C10656AB for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370AA8FC15 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD08C1CC69; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:00:04 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net DD08C1CC69 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1282766405; bh=+K8kRpjbrV9zMTxBIzDT5oQ3DxremkZqUntK8XdTcPs=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s49j9MkE9xKwtgNz+VvKgateGlT66P/0mGwxTyAJGiDmnRXNGLgIsytWZ2pUytLXG 4QrI63Vu0+mNctkSeeZf8AWZdrqDqQpGemGKXLBmpWoU1Usd6RsQ8DpsdsuKfflRgy CxlyJzueBfG6scPpLuJYMXAHmsrP30wCK9ukaDlQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id MgcqSTx+R06M; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:00:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C0011CC59; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:00:00 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 5C0011CC59 Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?LeonMe=DFner?= References: <20100825160404.GF3762@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de><1DA6D3678D2745999DA4F00266376495@rivendell> <20100825194717.GB51165@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20100825194717.GB51165@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:00:34 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openldap-sasl fails after 8.1 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:00:36 -0000 > I'll try that. > >> See also discussion at >> = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-July/057734.html > > Following the link in the other thread to > = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/055017.ht= ml > > i made the changes to /usr/bin/krb5-config: > > # diff /usr/bin/krb5-config /usr/bin/krb5-config.org > 96c96 > < lib_flags=3D"$lib_flags -lgssapi -lgssapi_spnego -lgssapi_krb5 > -lheimntlm" > --- >> lib_flags=3D"$lib_flags -lgssapi -lheimntlm" > > After that, rebuilding openldap+dependencies makes it work again. I > suppose this is quite dirty and i have to see if it introduces other > problems. For what it's worth, it seems like the import of GSSAPI/Heimdal was=20 left halfway done, which surprised me quite a bit in FreeBSD - it's=20 more of a Linux way of development... -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 20:28:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91141106566B for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CA98FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PKSq9i032271; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:28:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7PKSqle032268; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:28:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:28:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20100825155343.GQ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825002801.GJ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825033334.GK2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100825064113.GC71916@guilt.hydra> <20100825151856.GA74267@guilt.hydra> <20100825155343.GQ2236@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:28:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:28:56 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 25 August 2010: >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >>> >>> For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the >>> printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it >>> really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): >>> >>> # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 >>> >>> If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. >>> If it prints fine, it's CUPS. >> >> That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS >> settings. > > It didn't work at all for my OfficeJet. Apparently that printer doesn't > know PostScript, because all I got was a bunch of garbage with some > PostScript commands mixed in. Very few inkjets understand PS. But ghostscript may have a built-in driver for it which can be used like the ps2pcl filter in my lpd article. Maybe you'll find some of the rest of it useful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html#_adding_a_filter There are also the hplip and hpijs ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 20:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19AA1065679 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rihaz.jerrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870268FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1295407wyb.13 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p/4JKZbQyLx2YKJx7ZM9F13DzAHNpO4YhDsV3z86vl8=; b=iKkIWq9Br8SFM8nqtskwXsLDIfh7+u2Tq+mEaztKaIrCFUPb6aZZCpCXZtYlfU52rH 13rMWbtGggUmMpwYtaWeS4afMRMGQVtw3Gm5Ad+zqgbyO+8BeP52Sev+aKZzkmZpA8Bj seXa5M3z8q5jf0oTv0BHvW/n+96HR4sRNTRrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=CUy5Av3q68b+1OOUu4llII0Bul9mr49wgtLYn19mVf8tFFki/GMftzSaLLnA0KhXIq xGipFwBkCAk/FrIthwouOtLvnXy5V5Zu3Mz4Vnmm9lYBCTRNEIms8E7LXameHlhJrJdP CU4hUmgA3wCLQ52l1qUawKrsOOZPNpaPhmDv4= Received: by 10.216.6.201 with SMTP id 51mr1223555wen.110.1282766936523; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([117.199.4.151]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r18sm1145882weo.0.2010.08.25.13.08.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:08:55 -0700 (PDT) From: rihaz jerrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1282801025.42084.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.1.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IP banned on http://forums.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:38:01 -0000 Hi, i can't access the forums on http://forums.freebsd.org from this network range inetnum: 117.192.0.0 - 117.255.255.255 netname: BSNLNET it shows a message that my ip is banned when trying to view the pages.Tried mailing the admin, it has been like this about a month by now.Any help? Thank you Rihaz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 20:42:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07C91065672 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3948FC18 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7PKgJ0N032314; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:42:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7PKgIDu032311; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:42:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:42:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:42:22 -0000 On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle > straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to > see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file > format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. The LJ4050 is a great printer. The PS emulation works well and it's very smart about paper trays and input. Sort of the Douglas DC3 of lasers; I know of a couple with page counts over a million. 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Broadway, Suite 745, Rochester MN 55904 ------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 03:55:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8210656A5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084308FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ypD11e0021ZMdJ4A8rvkFd; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:55:44 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yrvi1e00246zqiB8crvjqf; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:55:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:55:42 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030707020300010805010602" Subject: Panic or deadlock with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:55:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030707020300010805010602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In an attempt to diagnose why my Thinkpad R51 completely locks up when trying to access X I have done the following. I built a debugging kernel, with KDB, DDB, WITNESS, INVARIANT*, AND DIAGNOSTIC in addition to *BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. None of these things have yielded any progress in isolating the issue. Note that replacing the 'intel' driver with the 'vesa' driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not cause the computer to hang. The problem appears to be specific to the intel driver. Also, I have been unable to get a crash report (which is what we were hoping to see in /var/crash) regardless of the debugging options built into the kernel. I have attached the output of 'uname -a', 'dmesg', and 'pciconf -lv' to this post. --------------030707020300010805010602 Content-Type: text/plain; name="uname.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="uname.txt" FreeBSD lappy.bsd 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #3: Tue Aug 24 18:57:40 PDT 2010 rem@lappy.bsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPPY i386 --------------030707020300010805010602 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #3: Tue Aug 24 18:57:40 PDT 2010 rem@lappy.bsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPPY i386 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. WARNING: DIAGNOSTIC option enabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz (1698.57-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d6 Family = 6 Model = d Stepping = 6 Features=0xafe9f9bf Features2=0x180 real memory = 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory = 496918528 (473 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ACPI Warning: 32/64X length mismatch in Gpe1Block: 0/32 (20100331/tbfadt-625) ACPI Warning: Optional field Gpe1Block has zero address or length: 0x 0 102C/0x0 (20100331/tbfadt-655) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) vgapci0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xd0000000-0xd007ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M vgapci1: mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xd0080000-0xd00fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] usbus2: on uhci2 ehci0: mem 0xd0100000-0xd01003ff irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3: on ehci0 pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 cbb0: mem 0xb0000000-0xb0000fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [FILTER] fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xb1000000-0xb10007ff,0xd0200000-0xd0203fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on pci2 fwohci0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:06:1b:03:23:01:55:2b fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x1578000 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:01:55:2b fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:01:55:2b fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:06:1b:03:23:01:55:2b @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x00000000, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode em0: port 0x7000-0x703f mem 0xd0220000-0xd023ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci2 em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:16:41:16:f1:cd iwi0: mem 0xd0204000-0xd0204fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 iwi0: [ITHREAD] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1810-0x181f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff,0x18c0-0x18ff mem 0xd0100c00-0xd0100dff,0xd0100800-0xd01008ff irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] ppc0: port 0x3bc-0x3be irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: [ITHREAD] ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xccfff,0xcd000-0xcdfff,0xce000-0xcefff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1698565952 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0 cable IRM irm(0) (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 Expensive timeout(9) function: 0xc08d5f80(0xc3723000) 0.002199162 s uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ad0: 38154MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ath0: mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: AR2413 mac 7.8 RF2413 phy 4.5 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. WARNING: DIAGNOSTIC option enabled, expect reduced performance. Root mount waiting for: usbus3 Root mount waiting for: usbus3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:17:3f:1d:a7:a7 Expensive timeout(9) function: 0xc077a2b0(0xc0fcc860) 0.007677512 s wlan0: link state changed to UP --------------030707020300010805010602 Content-Type: text/plain; name="pciconf.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pciconf.txt" hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x055c1014 chip=0x35808086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Host-Hub Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:0:0:1: class=0x088000 card=0x055d1014 chip=0x35848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara System Memory Controller' class = base peripheral none1@pci0:0:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x055e1014 chip=0x35858086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Configuration Process' class = base peripheral vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x05571014 chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x05571014 chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Integrated Graphics Device' class = display uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x052d1014 chip=0x24c28086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *1' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x052d1014 chip=0x24c48086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *2' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x052d1014 chip=0x24c78086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *3' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x052e1014 chip=0x24cd8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24488086 rev=0x81 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24cc8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x052d1014 chip=0x24ca8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DBM (ICH4-M) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none2@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x052d1014 chip=0x24c38086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x05541014 chip=0x24c58086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Realtek AC97 Audio (82801DBM SoundMAXController (ICH4-M B0 step))' class = multimedia subclass = audio none3@pci0:0:31:6: class=0x070300 card=0x05591014 chip=0x24c68086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller' class = simple comms subclass = generic modem cbb0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x060700 card=0x05601014 chip=0xac44104c rev=0x03 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PC Card Controller SDFSDAFSADFSDAFSDAF (PCI4510SDFSDFSD)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus fwohci0@pci0:2:0:1: class=0x0c0010 card=0x05611014 chip=0x8029104c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'OHCI Compliant IEEE-1394 FireWire Controller (040803-2158)' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire em0@pci0:2:1:0: class=0x020000 card=0x055b1014 chip=0x10778086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Mobile) (82547EI)' class = network subclass = ethernet iwi0@pci0:2:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27118086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG (MPCI3B)' class = network ath0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x701d1799 chip=0x001a168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'http://cr.am/framed.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tp%2Dlink.com%2Fsupport%2Fdownload.asp&ref=driverguide (Atheros AR5005G)' class = network subclass = ethernet --------------030707020300010805010602-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 04:04:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E821065695 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E328FC15 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ym7C1e0020cQ2SLA6s3zGx; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:03:59 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ys3w1e00L46zqiB8Ws3yUf; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:03:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4C75E7AC.7080509@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:03:56 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Panic or deadlock with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:04:06 -0000 > In an attempt to diagnose why my Thinkpad R51 completely locks up > when trying to access X I have done the following. I built a > debugging kernel, with KDB, DDB, WITNESS, INVARIANT*, AND DIAGNOSTIC > in addition to *BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. None of these things have yielded > any progress in isolating the issue. Note that replacing the 'intel' > driver with the 'vesa' driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not cause the > computer to hang. The problem appears to be specific to the intel > driver. Also, I have been unable to get a crash report (which is what > we were hoping to see in /var/crash) regardless of the debugging > options built into the kernel. > > I have attached the output of 'uname -a', 'dmesg', and 'pciconf -lv' > to this post. > > I forgot to mention the output of pkg_info | grep xf86-video-intel...which is: xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_3 Driver for Intel integrated graphics chipsets From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 06:31:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA111065695 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B528FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o7Q6V6v8023918 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:31:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201008260631.o7Q6V6v8023918@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:31:55 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 16:31:11 2010 > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0700 > From: Chip Camden > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page > > > --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > >=20 > > > I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the > > > margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? > >=20 > > I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. > >=20 > > I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my > > girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. > >=20 > > I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. > >=20 > > --=20 > > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > > Well, if it makes you feel any better, it does the same thing here > (truncates top and bottom). > > Looks like CUPS is addressing the page as if there were no unprintable > areas on the page (i.e., it's scaled to fit an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper > exactly) rather than squeezing it into the printable area. I'm afraid I > don't know enough about CUPS to say any more. What are the chances that that those 'problem' PDFs are designed for a slightly _different_ paper size, and CUPS is -nto- 'scaling' to fit the actual paper size? I don't know diddly-squat about CUPS, but this sounds an awful lot like what happens when a printer has 'letter' paper loaded, but has been told that it has size 'A4' paper. Look for configuration settings in whatever is doing the Postscript/PDF rendering, with regard to 'substiting' one paper size for another. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 08:57:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DCA1065675 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5B28FC15 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoYGj-0002yS-43 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:57:09 +0200 Received: from 62.97.71.6 ([62.97.71.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:57:09 +0200 Received: from matiassurdi by 62.97.71.6 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:57:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:56:57 +0200 Lines: 20 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.97.71.6 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 Subject: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:57:11 -0000 Hi, I've just bought a Giada i20 mini-pc for my home server. I've managed to slow down the cpu speed with powerd, but the fan keeps running at a (what seems to me) too high speed. I've contacted the manufacturer asking him about if this is an expected behaviour (even if it had windows) but I didn't get any response from them (and no, I don't have windows licenses to try it myself :-( ...). Do you know if there is anything I can do on freebsd to reduce its speed/noise? Thanks on beforehand. p/d: The hardware is this: http://www.giadatech.com/chanpinzhongxin/minipc/slim%20series/2010-01-19/17.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 11:56:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F7C10656A6 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E26B8FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTLAPTOP) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oob4R-00068P-QA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:56:39 -0400 Message-ID: <726C560B9BAA45188682F4004A752017@GRANTLAPTOP> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:56:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 Subject: ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:56:54 -0000 Hi all, I am running FreeBSD 8, and am assuming I am using ipfw2 How does one find the current version of IPFW being used? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 12:33:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A02510656A6 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997218FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7QCXIG1025688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:33:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4C765F06.2030409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:33:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <726C560B9BAA45188682F4004A752017@GRANTLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <726C560B9BAA45188682F4004A752017@GRANTLAPTOP> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD6E9229F09FE0D3509995628" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:33:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD6E9229F09FE0D3509995628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/08/2010 12:56, Grant Peel wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 8, and am assuming I am using ipfw2 >=20 > How does one find the current version of IPFW being used? Base system utilities generally don't have a separate version number -- other than the SVN revision numbers of their source code files. Just track them by the version of the OS. Hmmm... if you're asking about the ipfw1 -> ipfw2 update, that is pretty ancient history now. AFAIR it was current around 5.3-RELEASE. Maybe even earlier. All those changes were merged into the base system a long time ago now, and you can safely assume that you're on ipfw2. There have been some subsequent changes to ipfw which may involve modified ways of doing certain things -- I'm thinking of the in-kernel NAT features for example. This sort of change is best tracked through the Release Notes for new FreeBSD versions. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD6E9229F09FE0D3509995628 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx2Xw4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwPYQCfbAyK7w8AJtVLPmeD7Vnang8x MJsAoIASQbZVBU/Rl71tQPhetcKLtUBo =U5y1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD6E9229F09FE0D3509995628-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 12:37:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7E5106566C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0A8FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C766016.80FC5.32659 ; Authuser web; 26 Aug 2010 08:37:42 EDT Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:33:03 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100826123303.GA1799@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:37:44 -0000 According to Polytropon on Wed, 08/25/10 at 10:03: > > In case you're using HAL + DBUS, the setting now has to be coded > in XML in some arbitrary file at a decentral location buried deep > in the /usr/local subtree. According to the handbook > > 5.4.2 Configuring X11 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html > > this is /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi with > > > > > > terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > > as well as /etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to be added > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "DontZap" "off" > EndSection > > And the handbook also suggests a reboot (?!) to make sure HAL will > pick up the new setting. Next time, you will have to reboot in order > to make a mouse pointer position change visible. :-) Thanks for all the suggestions. Here is where things stand: I am still having the same problem since upgrading to 8.1-STABLE. First, what has changed. Then a clarification of the problem. xterm has changed: now 2.6.1 was 2.5.3 xorg has changed: now 7.5 was 7.3 xorg-server has changed: now 1.7.5,1 was 1.6.1,1 xf86-input-keyboard: now 1.4.0 was 1.3.2_2 xf86-input-mouse: now 1.5.0 was 1.4.0_6 hal has changed: now 0.5.14_8 was 0.5.13_12 kernel has changed: now 8.1-STABLE was 8.0-STABLE Note that open-motif _has_ _not_ _changed_ for some time. The problem is not in the method of shutting down my Xorg session. The problem is not the disappearance of my arrow cursor/pointer per se, although that may be a symptom of the underlying problem. The problem is that I am unable (now) to use open-motif through no change in my configs or my settings. Something has changed in the underlying applications, or system libraries, or kernel. In my use of open-motif, I use and depend on mouse focus. This means that when I move my mouse, the xterm I was in looses focus and the xterm into which I move my mouse pointer gains focus. This feature is also present in TWM, but open-motif (MWM) gives me the additional feature that the window having focus is also raised to the top - above all other windows/applications. This feature is critical for me and why I prefer using open-motif. When I first experienced this bug, all I could do at that point was to exit my xorg session (various folks have helped make that more "normal"). I have modified my .xinitrc file to include: /usr/local/bin/setxkbmap -option "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" and now Ctrl/Alt/BS sequence works as it used to in the "old days". I have commented out ServerFlags section of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and I have rebooted my workstation. Both hald and dbus are still enabled in my /etc/rc.conf file. Nothing has changed. When I run open-motif, I still experience the crippling loss of mouse focus when I enter the sequence Shift/Btn3Click. The prevents me from using _any_ of my other windows or xterms or applications since I can no longer select them (give them focus). Recall this setting in my ~/.mwmrc file: Shift window f.minimize OTOH _everything_ works in /usr/local/bin/twm. I much prefer the features of MWM compared to TWM. I don't want to relearn another window manager just because of this problem, and I'd rather not reassign my f.minimize feature to a difference key and mouse sequence, since some day, some application may require me to enter Shift/Btn3Click which would effectively ruin that Xorg session. Since TWM works and the xterms therein also work just fine, I doubt that xterm is at fault. I also hold open-motif blameless since it has not changed in years. I think something in Xorg or one of its support modules is not properly registering the Shift/Btn3Click event to the xorg-server, or that xorg-server has changed so that this particular event causes my pointer focus to disappear. Unfortunately, I don't know how to track down this bug or to narrow the search for what changed. I was hoping someone in FreeBSD-land would have some suggestions. I have heard that contacting the Xorg developers may not result in a timely resolution. I greatly appreciate the comments on -questions to date. Thanks guys. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 12:38:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4752A10656A4 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6A18FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4C76604C.B61E3.32314 ; Authuser web; 26 Aug 2010 08:38:36 EDT Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:33:57 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100826123357.GB1799@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:38:38 -0000 According to Warren Block on Wed, 08/25/10 at 11:03: > > You are telling xorg-server to not use hald with the AutoAddDevices > line: > > > Section "ServerFlags" > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > > Option "DontZap" "false" > > EndSection > > And the other option is already a default. So removing or commenting > that section would let xorg-server use hald. > > I don't know if this will affect your window manager. Probably not, but > worth testing. Did that. Made that change. No joy... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 13:11:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE181065693 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@dusk.parklogic.com) Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 922038FC17 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16358 invoked by uid 511); 26 Aug 2010 12:30:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20100826123039.16357.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> From: "Tijl Coosemans" To: "Frank Shute" In-Reply-To: 20100822194047.GA98336@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk References: 4C6D1399.5050601@comcast.net AANLkTinu8LmA=vE6yjk3mdbvd3+YXLT08TchaK0=zhyR@mail.gmail.com 4C70A618.D6D35FFA@blakemfg.com 201008221919.43610.tijl@coosemans.org 20100822194047.GA98336@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:39 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="1282825839.D1E2FF5F0.16278"; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Fred Boatwright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:14 -0000 Dear Sir/Madam, Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to. 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Regards, Webmaster References 1. http://www.xpbargains.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 13:32:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFD710656B5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B9F8FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7QDRmX2035497; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:27:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o7QDRm68035494; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:27:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:27:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20100826123303.GA1799@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <20100826123303.GA1799@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:27:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:32:57 -0000 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, William Bulley wrote: > In my use of open-motif, I use and depend on mouse focus. ... > Nothing has changed. When I run open-motif, I still experience > the crippling loss of mouse focus when I enter the sequence > Shift/Btn3Click. ... > Shift window f.minimize > > Since TWM works and the xterms therein also work just fine, I > doubt that xterm is at fault. I also hold open-motif blameless > since it has not changed in years. I think something in Xorg > or one of its support modules is not properly registering the > Shift/Btn3Click event to the xorg-server, or that xorg-server > has changed so that this particular event causes my pointer > focus to disappear. > > Unfortunately, I don't know how to track down this bug or to > narrow the search for what changed. I was hoping someone in > FreeBSD-land would have some suggestions. I have heard that > contacting the Xorg developers may not result in a timely > resolution. I greatly appreciate the comments on -questions > to date. Thanks guys. It's worth checking with the open-motif port maintainer. Also worth posting on the xorg mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 13:37:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCBB1065698 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D282B8FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o7QDbVq1074077; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:37:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7QDbV92001631; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:37:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7QDbPwx001630; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:37:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:37:25 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Fred Boatwright Message-ID: <20100826133725.GB1491@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822075157.GA1485@gothic.blackend.org> <4C71318C.2AA5F140@blakemfg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C71318C.2AA5F140@blakemfg.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ports@eitanadler.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:37:38 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:17:48AM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > > For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: > > > > "make install" or "make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver" ? > > > > Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. > > This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should > > be proposed. > > > > -- > > Marc > > I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers > could be selected. Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinstall > program when FBSD is initially being installed. > Yes, people can't guess what are the names of the drivers, it's in my opinion a problem for this port. I Cced the maintainer. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 14:10:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD2A106564A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80F798FC1E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27346 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2010 14:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2010 14:10:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UzRiEg9OF/m9k6x61GUZk/3f3VlulNZxMpwBIPbtZTYz0PwrCf7orzIQjGDG37LhS06HCszW4XPfEKG0WqcOo2/5IMLVhOA9CrQull+6iXpy1StsBNSZuoiYb8C8e0Hc; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OodA0-0003pn-P8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:10:33 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:07:47 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:07:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100826140747.GC78539@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100824204552.GA70395@guilt.hydra> <20100824225829.GA70716@guilt.hydra> <20100825113852.0eb8b8af.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100825152720.GB74267@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:34 -0000 --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:42:18PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle > >straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to > >see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file > >format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. >=20 > The LJ4050 is a great printer. The PS emulation works well and it's=20 > very smart about paper trays and input. Sort of the Douglas DC3 of=20 > lasers; I know of a couple with page counts over a million. >=20 > For further information on lpd and filters, let me repost the link to my= =20 > lpd article, which I really should have posted yesterday but forgot: >=20 > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html Thanks. I'll be looking into lpd as a solution to my CUPS problem, since there still doesn't appear to be an easy fix for CUPS. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx2dTMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVtpQCghwesW1ByCXU9CmCv2h+cwdjX kQsAnRuzHajFA/bJbVPwKKf36gYPuykT =2FdP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 14:17:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3B410656A4 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2B988FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25594 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2010 14:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2010 14:17:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Thgf29WszppOirscEkyY3qe9F2VKhXj0Kbf23KHpq4gV1Z95n29sekdg4czQBTdFSXIim9NDSIYlaFy5+SjqPU7oPmX0RPkixBvK4EROrAzd9eUYsEDOmst9RGWE6IQW; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OodGY-0005YM-RI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:17:20 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:14:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:14:33 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100826141433.GD78539@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201008260631.o7Q6V6v8023918@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4zI0WCX1RcnW9Hbu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201008260631.o7Q6V6v8023918@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:17:22 -0000 --4zI0WCX1RcnW9Hbu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:31:06AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: >=20 > What are the chances that that those 'problem' PDFs are designed for a > slightly _different_ paper size, and CUPS is -nto- 'scaling' to fit the > actual paper size? When printing via a method that bypasses CUPS (using netcat), it prints just fine -- and does not fit within the confines of the top and bottom margins that are cutting off the content when printing via CUPS. The PDF does extend outside of what might be considered "reasonable" margins for something like an interoffice memo, but does not run all the way to the edges of the paper; CUPS just doesn't want to print as far "north" and "south" as the PDF's content goes, evidently. >=20 > I don't know diddly-squat about CUPS, but this sounds an awful lot like > what happens when a printer has 'letter' paper loaded, but has been told > that it has size 'A4' paper. CUPS in this case has definitely been told it has US Letter size paper. >=20 > Look for configuration settings in whatever is doing the Postscript/PDF > rendering, with regard to 'substiting' one paper size for another. This has been addressed in other discussion in this thread. It is likely pdf2ps (part of ghostscript) that is doing the translation to PostScript; the other alternative is pdftops. Both of them provide a complete PostScript file, with all content on the page, but when either the PDF or the PS output of either of those tools is printed using CUPS the same problem arises. Using pdf2ps to produce PS output, which is then sent to the printer using netcat, produces a neatly printed page with no problems, however -- other than the minor problem that I'm using netcat to send jobs to my printer rather than a front end for a proper printing queue. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --4zI0WCX1RcnW9Hbu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx2dskACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUmRgCdEiR/1t1yt+0z4GUsT2eG6Kob pS0AoI8sElTcC2gqOi7KxiSWL9e1tDPH =Uj6n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4zI0WCX1RcnW9Hbu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 14:46:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CF510656A3 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC1F8FC16 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb4.telenor.se (ipb4.telenor.se [195.54.127.167]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD1EEB38C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicwAI4adkxV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDF50wDAEBAQE1LalEkXaBIoMicwSJIA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,273,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="1663977988" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb4.telenor.se with ESMTP; 26 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7QEkUBq012210; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:46:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C767E46.5060700@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:46:30 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100727 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4C72BCFC.1030106@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Friedemann Becker Subject: Re: 8.1 memstick installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:46:35 -0000 >> Check my old message on how to do this in FreeBSD 7.2. The same >> instructions should work for 8.1 too, just change the version references. >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201928.html >> /Morgan >> > > > Thanks a lot, > this seems to work. Is there any chance to get this into the faq or > handbook? It's seems way more usefull to me than a live-CD. Best thing > would be putting it into sysinstall, but maybe this is not reallistic. > > Best regards, > Friedemann > You're welcome. I'm not on the FreeBSD developer's team so I can't answer your questions about the FAQ. There is however a wiki at freebsd.org and I could ofc provide an article there if the developers find it useful. Sysinstall is simply put just a frontend to the commands I use in the guide and you could accomplish the exact same install thorugh it if you change the default options. But I find it much easier to do this basic install manually instead of navigating through several pages of menus. :-) /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 15:34:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2405B1065679 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66818FC1A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1OoeT9-0000c3-JP>; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:34:23 +0200 Received: from p5b2f2593.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.47.37.147] helo=munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1OoeT9-0001lk-G3>; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:34:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4C768980.1080105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:34:24 +0200 From: "Hartmann, O." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100812 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 91.47.37.147 Cc: Subject: Howto create FAT32 bootable USB device with gpart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:34:25 -0000 Trying to create a bootable USB device (memory stick) with gpart - and failed. I need those USB mem sticks for BIOS flashing purposes on an older main PCB, utilizing FreeDOS. The old BIOS is capable of booting off from USB mem sticks, since I booted and installed FreeBSD via this method. But the creation of a bootable FreeDOS USB mem stick failed. I have FreeBSD 9.0 as a mastering operating system and 8 GB sticks. These are the boundary conditions. Is there any way to perform this task with gpart? Thanks in advance. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 16:45:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9E91065694 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A488FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OofZj-000Bex-A4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3055827D2E3346A49D6D44F7F71D7EA3@GRANTPC> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:45:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:56:31 +0000 Subject: IPFW and ipa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:45:29 -0000 Hi all, Since FreeBSD 4.4, I have been using ipa(1.3.6) to do bandwidth accounting. Since upgrading to FreeBSD 8, I now get log messages saying that the ipfw rules do not exist: Example (one example of hundreds doing the same thing): Aug 26 07:32:59 constellation ipa[2940]: rule rulename.ipa: 10017.0 doesn't exist in IPFW kernel table Aug 26 07:32:59 constellation ipa[2940]: rule rulename.ipa: 10017.1 doesn't exist in IPFW kernel table The ipfw rule does exist: #ipfw -a list 10017 4826 4903117 count ip from nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn to any via bge0 10017 4233 655962 count ip from any to nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn via bge0 The /usr/local/etc/ipa.conf rule looks like so: rule rulename.ipa { ipfw = 10017 10017.1 info = rulename bandwidth } The ipa database is empty: constellation# ipastat -r rulename.ipa +---------------------+---------------------------+---------------------+---------------------+ | Rule | Info | From | To | +---------------------+---------------------------+---------------------+---------------------+ | rulename.ipa | rulename bandwidth | 2010.08.01/00:00:00 | 2010.08.31/24:00:00 | +---------------------+---------------------------+---------------------+---------------------+ +------------+-------+--------+ | Date | Bytes | Mbytes | +------------+-------+--------+ | 2010.08.01 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.02 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.03 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.04 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.05 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.06 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.07 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.08 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.09 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.10 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.11 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.12 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.13 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.14 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.15 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.16 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.17 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.18 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.19 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.20 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.21 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.22 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.23 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.24 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.25 | 0 | 0 | | 2010.08.26 | 0 | 0 | +------------+-------+--------+ | | 0 | 0 | +------------+-------+--------+ * 26 days * Has something changed in ipfw that no longer allows the .0 and .1 part? Does anyone know of a fix or workaround? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 16:58:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11E91065672 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD6F8FC18 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jhelfman) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00432F2F5E5; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:56:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:56:32 -0700 From: Jason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100826165632.GL19553@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p1 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: jvf@freebsd.org, jpaetzel@freebsd.org Subject: unsupported intel card registration issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:58:58 -0000 Hi, We have an add-on Intel card that isn't registering with the OS, and were wondering what would it take to have it properly identified so it may be used. This particular installation is FreeBSD 7.3, however we do have some 8.1 systems. This is a Dell PowerEdge R310. Here is a snip from pciconf for this card: none8@pci0:7:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' class = network subclass = ethernet none9@pci0:7:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' class = network subclass = ethernet none10@pci0:8:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' class = network subclass = ethernet none11@pci0:8:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' class = network subclass = ethernet Thanks! Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 17:20:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074A61065782 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDB78FC1C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7QHK0dC066770; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:20:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 31B58BAA1; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:20:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:20:00 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Matias Message-ID: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:20:02 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Matias wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've just bought a Giada i20 mini-pc for my home server. I've managed to= =20 > slow down the cpu speed with powerd, but the fan keeps running at a=20 > (what seems to me) too high speed. > Do you know if there is anything I can do on freebsd to reduce its=20 > speed/noise? Are there any sysctls for the fan? Try 'sysctl -a|grep fan' Also check in the BIOS if there are relevant settings. > p/d: The hardware is this:=20 > http://www.giadatech.com/chanpinzhongxin/minipc/slim%20series/2010-01-19/= 17.html Looks nice for a desktop as well. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx2okAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWR2QCbBFw20lkBLWEdxLF19nt6rnfg ruMAoKoXKtewvA0jrcZJ6ii913d6IpKP =gahG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 18:24:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C81010656A5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nitap@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og108.obsmtp.com (exprod7og108.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAB58FC18 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob108.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTHaxZtfgJzC4pPj/AJ654aIoOxjme4od@postini.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:24:39 PDT Received: from emailbng1.jnpr.net (10.209.194.15) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.254.0; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:42:02 -0700 Received: from emailbng2.jnpr.net ([10.209.194.16]) by emailbng1.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:12:00 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ch8= AJZU ATGS Az3Y B1fx CpxQ EcZv E4xX FjVv FtQ4 GDHD GnvM HKXH Igw6 JfWJ KSkO; 1; cQB1AGUAcwB0AGkAbwBuAHMAQABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {E6C762BF-5D56-4761-8104-D824D0FCD244}; bgBpAHQAYQBwAEAAagB1AG4AaQBwAGUAcgAuAG4AZQB0AA==; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:41:40 GMT; QwBvAHUAbABkACAAbgBvAHQAIABjAGgAZABpAHIAIAB0AG8AIABoAG8AbQBlACAAZABpAHIAZQBjAHQAbwByAHkA x-cr-puzzleid: {E6C762BF-5D56-4761-8104-D824D0FCD244} Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:11:40 +0530 Message-ID: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Could not chdir to home directory Thread-Index: ActFRfECdE/QHoDeQhWw8Za9xKzbtw== From: Nita Pavitran To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2010 17:42:00.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC867000:01CB4545] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:24:39 -0000 Hi, I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory instead of the home directory: Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied > uname -a FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 > =20 Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. Thanks and regards, Nita .................................... Nita Pavitran Technical Publishing Engineer Juniper Networks o +91 80 30711390 m +91 98808 66566 nitap@juniper.net www.juniper.net =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 18:28:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2A71065670 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3368FC17 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so1756479eyx.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xcX0LLFgplkqNmpItYCu9JiEPN066cjafBXF5PxIl3Y=; b=xP0LQ7QtzyzEPzd75FJ96RtIduzPBEpn4p1Cq4cYF+fXuejJzpXByMzEygNM6zpns1 8FO36B1924/oBtH7au8+Vn7LNQzXRejowVg6+PqLsxUJsrcWtCPk3g73TiqEMQ9Wfc+W PuxNvfI3niBbSvpQRsiQqdXF+O6JSDk18OLgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JDtHEreffM4F7tcFmzIk/vSZUC6rF0N2XXw/SD/AmnLsC2F4Md3rAtcfEnJ341IW7O Hu4UDEnGY/ofOWA5sYvT7GSBTW7+eMLwLehjaoPFjqpgtS+2ZMRnpctwdlKnQpPzOkc2 7O2T+Rhf+PqzlKP2V/DySJLSH5RVLZtYrtHlg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.10.145 with SMTP id 17mr9354396wev.27.1282845581549; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.49.78 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:59:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100826165632.GL19553@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20100826165632.GL19553@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:59:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jack Vogel To: Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: jvf@freebsd.org, jpaetzel@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unsupported intel card registration issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:28:49 -0000 Its jfv, not jvf :) Support for that card is in CURRENT and STABLE/8, am almost certain its in 8.1. That's a quad-port 82576. Jack On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jason wrote: > Hi, > > We have an add-on Intel card that isn't registering with the OS, and were > wondering what would it take to have it properly identified so it may be > used. > > This particular installation is FreeBSD 7.3, however we do have some 8.1 > systems. > > This is a Dell PowerEdge R310. > > Here is a snip from pciconf for this card: > none8@pci0:7:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > none9@pci0:7:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > none10@pci0:8:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > none11@pci0:8:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0xa02c8086 chip=0x10e88086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Unknown (Unknown)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > Thanks! > Jason > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:07:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1C1065694 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FB48FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so2290701qyk.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RnhkfYEDX//A5H8AyAbDzjP/kJOp6N6fR9gMZAozFiQ=; b=eUMJ3rI1JPbBWd2wvdRBPZ3aGBWDdA1ahDmYopecEBzqknYjCt7808l60jbX1hyy+a oXOFpTNUNfS2buLRoWurt7sdlTlQiQpyZfD9HrkDIpUhLX0s+tNvueag8gsYRjEwAHi+ vlQtuTEBl5uwjkxO2W8FjZFpkZoox7e1zuXaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oZpP5LWN+JFck5+5kPmtmfS/ql2o0gxZ5kjovGXpMcSxjSYELWhm7NcydU90zhirdx EZSYjCLP7o5h7egpV6dbzkKEIfqfoClPPS/E9r+6LuMir3nW26kv8kTJ1F9TStywAd2o 1qfdTMB3u+QSRHyVFVrvhNZICmrc4WmDZY4O8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.11.34 with SMTP id r34mr6106955qcr.292.1282849620806; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.75.76 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Nita Pavitran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:07:02 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Nita Pavitran wrote: > I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory > instead of the home directory: > > Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied > > uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 > root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 > > > > Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. > Wow that's an old release. The standard home directory is in: /usr/home/{username} or it's equivalent /home/{username} You have /homes not /home in your error message which could be the cause. You can also make sure the directory exists and has the correct permissions. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:10:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD7B106566B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (203-109-245-75.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0608FC08 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 426DAE040A; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:54:26 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:54:26 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Nita Pavitran Message-ID: <20100826185426.GD4084@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:10:24 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:11:40PM +0530, Nita Pavitran wrote: > Hi, > > I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory > instead of the home directory: > > Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied > > uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 > root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 > > > > Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. Check the output of: ls -ld / ls -ld /homes ls -ld /homes/nitap -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:06:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F235C1065696 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tferris@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og109.obsmtp.com (exprod7og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AAD8FC1D for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob109.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTHa7RrF0mqv3wUKFklQAb0xOlPR6dCiM@postini.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:06:46 PDT Received: from emailbng1.jnpr.net (10.209.194.15) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.254.0; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:48:26 -0700 Received: from emailbng2.jnpr.net ([10.209.194.16]) by emailbng1.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:18:23 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Aohp BG8K BNm4 B/3K Cqkc DGM5 DfGK Dwx/ E4Y3 FYp1 F3XR GD5k G/AW IJBS Iyfj Jry5; 1; cQB1AGUAcwB0AGkAbwBuAHMAQABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {DC18B337-709D-4BE1-9928-84B87E118903}; dABmAGUAcgByAGkAcwBAAGoAdQBuAGkAcABlAHIALgBuAGUAdAA=; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:48:19 GMT; TgBlAGUAZAAgAFIAZQBzACAAVQB0AGkAbABpAHQAeQA= x-cr-puzzleid: {DC18B337-709D-4BE1-9928-84B87E118903} Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:18:19 +0530 Message-ID: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need Res Utility Thread-Index: ActFT0AejYjV5dGrR2uRcJf0Ft44ww== From: Tamara Ferris To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2010 18:48:23.0573 (UTC) FILETIME=[42CE2450:01CB454F] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:32:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need Res Utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:06:47 -0000 Hi,=20 I got this error message. I also need the Res utility. % show res tp5 show: Command not found. % uname -a JUNOS sugar 10.4B2 JUNOS 10.4B2 #0: 2010-08-20 07:55:25 UTC builder@warth.juniper.net:/volume/build/junos/10.4/release/10.4B2/obj-i3 86/bsd/sys/compile/JUNIPER i386 Thanks, Tamara From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:32:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE5610656A7 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869DE8FC28 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (HSI-KBW-078-042-098-160.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [78.42.98.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4C08A2561 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C76BB1C.1090805@bsdforen.de> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:06:04 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: change file creation time on msdosfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:32:51 -0000 I need to change the file creation time of some files on an msdosfs file system. Is there any other way to do this than copying the file and deleting the original? The usual suspects like touch and mv do not work. Regards -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:27:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A5210656A3 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 886048FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 19:13:53 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.133] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 19:13:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 19:13:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 94392.43744.bm@omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45617 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2010 19:13:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1282849994; bh=zaRxQWfcw5yc8c9r6OsDqI8qzQ03EvqKTG8N8EZa/rE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NyiMemVINfXG0yaMODY1yo3Fuw0TWBRbU59dvkeXTtDQnDQZba/9NGxfc8my+E43L+NYrmxXr+QVChjvaI5L6kFTfIj4jaAng7bEtmDDtgh7zPWZawrchxuY57yeqaacVKfS3Weh/+8hZR/s8IOxxrBz/zzadiQ1h0XSgGbf4Ow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iXsx02X/kQMCsM4EszChTHloQj6lyzhHQA9IXA6LSPWes4oaFrtbT4GfLu/lLzIjaWmGWw9w+XKvTp5xd8R6khE0AHAZU5QT8IlbDEVRZp1P2mjH1MtMzrBHqRxfClAk7+Rv3hMqKZbM0RMD5LzroTrVutHt0PZ9Jw0m2MpzyGc=; Message-ID: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2M43eOwVM1kE8AYS.wEpBqKsa9OsLQn7fxQQiMdF5Bzmj6R n943l_gzM7N_52NHTkQiplLUvu80DlI0io2U1lQsiPb0aX5BEDj5CjiTNoUV 6qST9a.IjIdigOosiDcAT4bIKzaUwf_P7liCkkB_cCY2A9jWbwHn201LrgOp KWIVQuE9zygieoUMpWtUdCZp.RMaVT5ur6.oEauDsocrCWa.OhiH1Ge_mDFK 2peBjMnrU_8v9tF7K5H_zkcTLTWnrmQbwXLiprZNGFS5jcszhoQkIQdjADME BJ9sccMyG.Q-- Received: from [172.20.1.100] by web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:13:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.3.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:40:12 +0000 Subject: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:27:02 -0000 Hi all: Is it possible to update the database of ports offline. It is nice to use "portsnap fetch/extract/update", but I can't use that since one of my server has no connection to the internet... _dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:49:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E6C1065693 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA248FC18 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B52FF7427; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:49:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Tamara Ferris Message-Id: <20100826154926.78001ff8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need Res Utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:49:28 -0000 In response to Tamara Ferris : > > I got this error message. I also need the Res utility. > > % show res tp5 > show: Command not found. > % uname -a > JUNOS sugar 10.4B2 JUNOS 10.4B2 #0: 2010-08-20 07:55:25 UTC > builder@warth.juniper.net:/volume/build/junos/10.4/release/10.4B2/obj-i3 > 86/bsd/sys/compile/JUNIPER i386 This is not a FreeBSD system. You should probably contact tech support at Juniper with your question. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 19:53:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF7810656A6 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6273A8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7FF295DA; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7QJrl68002189; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:53:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:53:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: gahn Message-Id: <20100826215346.7aaba141.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:53:50 -0000 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:13:14 -0700 (PDT), gahn wrote: > Is it possible to update the database of ports offline. > > It is nice to use "portsnap fetch/extract/update", but I can't > use that since one of my server has no connection to the internet... At least you need one machine with Internet connection to get the ports update, e. g. using "portsnap fetch extract" or "make update" (using csup). Once done, tar cf ports.tar /usr/ports and transfer the file to the server without Internet connection; finally extract it there. Another way would be to use the FreeBSD release CD or DVD to get the RELEASE related ports tree from there. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 20:07:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F10B10656A6 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41B18FC21 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2233691qwg.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jt+OWWeWIJwCNbHqFJ1IHwYCFg8mdSJgafYZYV7n7wo=; b=CBDZuldvA7Pw/vXrGWY6M5wt8KdbYdHgH2FdPpAI8JST9s0H4MV+SJ6JWLzPyH2XW/ x5+RWxZMyDLjZ0l0CFUf2g6OtVn1QT1Jw7qKXbjhbp/qdVr7yUbdx9xNSbBu9zXhW9Ba VLobIfglcmcr9dz/79XiTmAVNY0/pY9DPg0EE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dzMT8huzbyp0B1oMJ3qyq2RFm+jEL/aHZQFlkHFijNhpRt80IukRbtjE0qgD48k5G2 oDigtKYUcZV1cYFW4fi7J6payjDaCZNUbUysfwerTXOyzqcbd3gYIkzx/9uUbOsFvmFV dywD1EvmTotE6GV+jXmv5jCAPFDpTT0ZFJC5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.143 with SMTP id q15mr5656817qag.395.1282853256122; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.75.76 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: gahn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:07:37 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, gahn wrote: > Hi all: > > Is it possible to update the database of ports offline. > > It is nice to use "portsnap fetch/extract/update", but I can't use that > since one of my server has no connection to the internet... > If you have another machine available, it probably makes more sense to build the packages there and bring them over. A ports tree with no internet connection is not always useful. It doesn't contain the source necessary to build the packages. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 20:11:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C561065698 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530718FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so2077855iwn.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.30.75 with SMTP id t11mr10702166ibc.27.1282853507425; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.135 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100826133725.GB1491@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4C700925.715E10B8@blakemfg.com> <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822075157.GA1485@gothic.blackend.org> <4C71318C.2AA5F140@blakemfg.com> <20100826133725.GB1491@gothic.blackend.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:11:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Marc Fonvieille Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Fred Boatwright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:11:48 -0000 >> I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers >> could be selected. =C2=A0Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinst= all >> program when FBSD is initially being installed. >> > > Yes, people can't guess what are the names of the drivers, it's in my > opinion a problem for this port. =C2=A0I Cced the maintainer. I have a lot on my plate right now so I can't guarantee that I'll solve this soon. Would depending on x11-driver/xorg-drivers instead of requiring VIDEO_DRIVER being set help at all? I intended this port to be used when you require X11 to up and running fast without any overhead. That is why things like xset aren't installed. It is possible to run X11 with the vesa driver even if you can get better performance with a different driver. --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 21:18:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5085F106564A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED1C58FC1B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 21:18:27 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.155] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 21:18:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2010 21:18:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 225328.87755.bm@omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37873 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2010 21:18:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1282857507; bh=HiSiDLXJAySwNMV1ofPgnom7+suegqCcoQOvij3F3bU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z5OD5pOnYsuGPDSm/2ZdymlcoGwoqJvN4M41zxV2CVoIF4SEThagIfnW1zjHMbV8wM5D5tpP/yhT3cKlLOrRUb4/576FZZHlCclrMjDwdMtCeqy//jQkx41IQb/gJVVfBSA7oiASNMPKjVOlDfzH1rYCTuMqQj1cUpLtOAdpTYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ymUbgOD0iw6swdDgvovyk+U1LyntChmuGKenvSkY323uTJUqZPw7leDHThGCdJUUxZH59H0Slh4cz8PqacghRmbXdKhzmBiENTN/FGb9kd0Uo8Fd+s57ePZG9fuD67ogPjI/MLUrO1cYujNTG835fRXcfvjTonLsICrEei7cHhI=; Message-ID: <88227.30824.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rB8vO0QVM1mXsHShAhzJyBS1EsNtOD8qHRCAW7UZBoLqwCk nJSDeyxPGEqZpqajVDB4VrDNZ7Vh5VD9Uhx73EeyEwfxOpr85B76I.D2MlTx CAXk_He77FXCdXI8B604zfF0O9fo8ui6xnhxLkmGAIQT.5V4EDKXBB8VCeG6 2GTp.IZutVOEYEPM73.82yER7SSN2aQhDm7KzPMWkPY3GUeNlcOiwkSENg5o wV_xYFtgHxb3lHxNf4GonRunm75eNeitKCeYs2AVRegybNFwRrlNfz61P5QV 9pIzGTnlXUYRxQxM24OVYkYt7w4Wa4nwz8m6gAifH7DWgumJnAQd5ZPBBIud P5XdeUWAmIxzc5Uc- Received: from [209.22.88.90] by web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:18:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.3.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:18:27 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:18:28 -0000 well, I could just update the database offline, then use another machine=0A= download right software and put them in /usr/ports/distfiles... --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Adam Vande More wrote: From: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: ports database To: "gahn" Cc: "freebsd general questions" Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 1:07 PM On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, gahn wrote: =0AHi all: =0A =0AIs it possible to update the database of ports offline. =0A =0AIt is nice to use "portsnap fetch/extract/update", but I can't use that = since one of my server has no connection to the internet... If you have another machine available, it probably makes more sense to buil= d the packages there and bring them over.=A0=A0 A ports tree with no intern= et connection is not always useful.=A0 It doesn't contain the source necess= ary to build the packages.=A0=20 =0A --=20 Adam Vande More =0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 22:07:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9F5106566B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594428FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so2180032iwn.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:07:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4Gsg3hCuhFMWGjJAYd4/WnDh+Bp0qFbjfE3eazmpZgU=; b=gMSvxwzsuujSGkzM/YbZQr5sTu9JsdgcgoBW4ehPqQJdR+5ABgCUkhybcfra3AwRR4 YJP4LdqEKoY/ukXhGNjlBN86+xXLh8bukIb/OCG1MF0Wv8uqoPMdUHTzcBot3eX0x2To K161jmpFcPabT1zRMYK+TKG/bJC7FNrahakJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=abPyy8MCL6GHZ5mDxauVS5mYclkCL1Ln0qI+cwjg9Q2ltIzGXb182RkV3zL6oGXmMF zv9WKpWG7FuqY7gsiF2EsOidpdszpCHU3+mEvitZ/555m7ydYjBskuTEbCTDy9ROdmRJ QBAuTtH2TYRI5qmL3ctDIJQc/Vx+5mWg10rE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.139.212 with SMTP id f20mr11579710ibu.166.1282860455696; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.79.205 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:07:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:07:36 -0000 Hi folks, I have a server I'm building that is internet accessible and I'm wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages of using either SFTP -vs- SCP? My primary concern is overall security of the server (even if that means inconveniencing the end users), and I'm wondering if one method might be better than the other? Comments??? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 22:10:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6391065693 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56348FC0C for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9D266320; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id EC29A2F8003; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E661E2F8002; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.43]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:10:21 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Ed Flecko' , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:10:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP Thread-Index: ActFayu1SDiqJZOLTrKi4GFGySge+gAABZpQ Message-ID: <6813_1282860621_4C76E64D_6813_54_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA56C@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:10:33 -0000 " My primary concern is overall security of the server (even if that means = inconveniencing the end users)," Given your above statement, I would say the best option is to NOT connect i= t to any network at all - ESPECIALLY the internet! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ed Flecko Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:08 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP Hi folks, I have a server I'm building that is internet accessible and I'm wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages of using either SFTP -vs- SCP? My primary concern is overall security of the server (even if that means inconveniencing the end users), and I'm wondering if one method might be better than the other? Comments??? Thank you, Ed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 22:14:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD23710656AD for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FA08FC19 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so2187198iwn.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ETDQA2Drj3be6K9tdwnStHzo51XB43WZSKpBzmHe3Ik=; b=DLs8aVZ3vxDWEUi0abzIXbiReXalfaIFVSPnZozpRzj0vX/I4eBYL7AEX31WZgQU04 O2/Cf57h9Oo5UgfpLfMxeG1hJBvTGtVwBLMcs4sh6460RGMHXMsAZe7l/LPe5CQNXNF4 CtB70KMgMSMp7wYVU+/mcPln8WWKY6wWhsCZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pObLVOvoJDkrc/73xsrNZOY2RmGc8E97hcQ6e9YD3GxGQPuv9MkV/nydB7DodNhWSS 3d1QFNgUCighxcZKBWnIqw3W9+vl5IomIo1hI7CqIZPEPU1Il3ft+f/h8V3WzUnl+wu7 rENd1ZPbTNwC4JXrZ3YMeCCiZ2aQLaKkJB6ag= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.139.212 with SMTP id f20mr11590505ibu.166.1282860885858; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.79.205 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6813_1282860621_4C76E64D_6813_54_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA56C@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <6813_1282860621_4C76E64D_6813_54_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA56C@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:14:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:14:46 -0000 Gary, I agree...but I HAVE to give them access! :-) Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 22:52:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C87F10656A6 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E7A8FC13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C632072D8E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YdQa-BErMTLu for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A992072D87 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3CC68947902; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gFwP-95X9mzQ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 0EE87689478E8; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:52:54 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100826225253.GB2034@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:52:56 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010, Ed Flecko wrote: >Hi folks, >I have a server I'm building that is internet accessible and I'm >wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages of using either SFTP >-vs- SCP? I would say that depends on what software the clients want to use. FileZilla works nicely with sftp, and is available on Windows, OS X, and I presume other *nix platforms (I'm a CLI guy so only have used it enough to be sure it works). One can also use the sshfs to provide the ability to mount remote file systems over an ssh connection. This requires nothing on the file server side other than working ssh. I haven't tried this on FreeBSD. On Linux it requires kernel support of fuse, user level file system. There's no reason one couldn't use both sftp and scp/sshfs. We generally don't allow any ssh password access, but require authorized_keys. In a few cases where the client absolutely insists on allowing password authentication, we lock it down to a limited set of IP addresses. We have been able to get many clients to use OpenVPN to make their connections which makes life easier after the initial setup as all connections are through the OpenVPN tunnel so we don't have to allow outside ssh access. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 00:53:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D691065693 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siefke_listen@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3858FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp03.web.de ( [172.20.0.65]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5E3166B9F6B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [194.77.0.23] (helo=[192.168.0.20]) by smtp03.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #4) id 1Oomvq-0000yj-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:36:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4C77088A.9010102@web.de> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:36:26 +0200 From: "siefke_listen@web.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CABr8nNY69SdZ/N+xG3m4Yuyy2eARTCjrZY7L rXq90+ze6UAfSO9KxK2oUq5pVUufHPjGztNuXKyTY0P0eDlb/w VAOsYis+8xvH6eFDBiWw== Subject: DSPAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:53:32 -0000 Hello, i have installed DSPAM in a Jail together with Apache. I do it so because i want use the webinterface. Before Postfix send message to the socket /tmp/dspam.sock and that was. But now it goes not with the jail. I read some Howtos in Internet and i want it now so realize. Postfix take the mails and send it to the jailIP:10024 and give it back over jailIP:10025. So i was think, but it goes not. log: Aug 27 02:32:22 silviosiefke postfix/lmtp[48553]: 1D5BF147C9D: to=, relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.05/0/0/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to 192.168.0.101[192.168.0.101]:10024: Connection refused) Postfix i use the follow things: main.cf: check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/dspam_filter_access dspam_filter_access: /./ FILTER lmtp:[192.168.0.101]:10024 master.cf 192.168.0.101:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd -o smtpd_authorized_xforward_hosts=127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.100 > Host 192.168.0.101 > Jail dspam.conf Home /var/db/dspam StorageDriver /usr/local/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so #TrustedDeliveryAgent ""/usr/sbin/sendmail" DeliveryHost 192.168.0.100 DeliveryPort 10025 DeliveryIdent localhost DeliveryProto SMTP OnFail error Trust root Trust dspam Trust apache Trust mail Trust mailnull Trust smmsp Trust daemon Trust siefke #Trust nobody #Trust majordomo TrainingMode teft TestConditionalTraining on Feature whitelist Algorithm graham burton PValue bcr WebStats on Preference "spamAction=quarantine" Preference "signatureLocation=headers" # can be 'message' or 'headers' Preference "showFactors=off" # changed from on ServerPort 11124 ServerQueueSize 32 ServerPID /tmp/dspam.pid ServerMode auto ServerParameters "--user filter --deliver=innocent" ServerDomainSocketPath "/tmp/dspam.sock" ServerParameters "--deliver=innocent -d %u" ServerIdent "localhost.localdomain" ClientHost 192.168.0.100 ClientPort 10024 HashRecMax 98317 HashAutoExtend on HashMaxExtents 0 HashExtentSize 49157 HashPctIncrease 100 HashMaxSeek 10 Notifications off PurgeSignatures 14 # Stale signatures PurgeNeutral 90 # Tokens with neutralish probabilities PurgeUnused 90 # Unused tokens PurgeHapaxes 30 # Tokens with less than 5 hits (hapaxes) PurgeHits1S 15 # Tokens with only 1 spam hit PurgeHits1I 15 # Tokens with only 1 innocent hit LocalMX 192.168.0.100 SystemLog on UserLog on Opt out TrackSources spam ham ParseToHeaders on ChangeModeOnParse on ChangeUserOnParse on ClamAVPort 3310 ClamAVHost 127.0.0.1 ClamAVResponse accept ProcessorBias on Has someone a Idea for me? It were really great i try now since 2 Days, and so much i has read but nothing happen really. Regards Silvio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 01:17:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988110656C4 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5348FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-71-109-159-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.159.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o7R1HJ5N021151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <96E6F9A3-49F5-4C55-8248-6D62717636DF@lafn.org> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:19 -0700 To: freebsd general questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Routing Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:21 -0000 I have several servers with one ethernet interface. Currently it is = connected via a WAN to the internet. We are in the midst of switching = to a different provider. I would like to be able to operate with both = temporarily until all the users/services get switched. The new circuit = is in and working. I would like somehow to configure the system (I have = pf in use) to be able to detect the packets that come from a specific = router and route the return packets back through it. The other network = would be the default. PF's route_to will return the packets to the = proper router, but I have not been able to figure out which ones those = would be. The source IP address can be any on either network and its = highly likely that we will see packets from the same source network on = both at the same time. The only distinction I see in the input packets = between the two paths is the MAC address of the router. I don't see any = way in pf or the system to use that to affect the return path though.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 01:17:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35181065674 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrborg@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail.thelebowski.com (mail.thelebowski.com [174.136.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA56D8FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.thelebowski.com (mail.thelebowski.com [174.136.106.3]) by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218EEE11CC for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EED21E11CB; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:01:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.thelebowski.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from [192.168.1.141] (c-67-187-169-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.169.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85D87E04F9 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C770E78.5080407@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:01:44 -0700 From: Rocky Borg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C77088A.9010102@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4C77088A.9010102@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: DSPAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:17:27 -0000 On 8/26/2010 5:36 PM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote: > -o smtpd_authorized_xforward_hosts=127.0.0.0/8 That's probably the problem. It needs to be the ip of the jail. A jail maps localhost addresses like 127.0.0.1 to the jail's address. So when you specify network blocks in access restrictions, filters and the like, make sure to use your jail IP rather than 127.0.0.1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 03:33:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B30106567A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4D28FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23298 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2010 03:33:52 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-120.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w20.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.120]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Aug 2010 03:33:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4C773220.5070305@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:33:52 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:59:01 +0000 Subject: su always works if pam config missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:33:55 -0000 The su(1) command always provide root access if there are no pam config files. Is this actually the desired behavior? Regards, Jason C. Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 04:00:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCB71065673 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siefke_listen@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B733D8FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp02.web.de ( [172.20.0.184]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8408416EB3A28 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:00:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [194.77.0.23] (helo=[192.168.0.21]) by smtp02.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #4) id 1Ooq7L-00050r-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4C773861.8000000@web.de> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:00:33 +0200 From: "siefke_listen@web.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C77088A.9010102@web.de> <4C770E78.5080407@speakeasy.net> <4C773388.7060003@web.de> <4C77358B.1000108@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4C77358B.1000108@speakeasy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19B+GMEl/OOmIYnzEj7pOdLt/UHmeRIX0IfWddt CuzXDQ/tMi/GyUcyiqnU1ETDkCanxln0OUdJo5nITSjeLtejuc 3GHGHVVGXXojDY1S3OMA== Subject: Re: DSPAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:00:41 -0000 Hello, Am 27.08.2010 05:48, schrieb Rocky Borg: > On 8/26/2010 8:39 PM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote: >> I have changed this in 192.168.0.0/24, but the mistake is the same. >> Aug 27 05:38:02 silviosiefke postfix/lmtp[50471]: 059D2147C96: >> to=, relay=none, delay=3.3, >> delays=3.3/0.03/0/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to >> 192.168.0.101[192.168.0.101]:10024: Connection refused) > > In your main.cf have you setup mynetworks and allowed them correctly? I > ran into similar problems when the jail ip itself wasn't list in > mynetworks. postconf -n alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/sbin config_directory = /etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix data_directory = /var/db/postfix html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix inet_interfaces = 192.168.0.100, 127.0.0.1 mail_owner = postfix mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/share/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost mydomain = dyndns.org myhostname = silviosiefke.dyndns.org mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/24 newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix sample_directory = /etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = no smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_invalid_hostname, reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/dspam_filter_access, permit_auth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = no smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s smtpd_use_tls = no soft_bounce = yes tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 Regards Silvio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 04:10:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45145106564A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onoda11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40CA8FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so506225yxn.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bQAtgR4R4JmTITetGmHf+Go8uNSom9HCuh8JOVyv2BM=; b=yGKFHrhW+sclmDAVESVcju7/5OFVJIYNhzg9jl43B/2RRNnNNMYQfdFhCB5WnFO98T a5ZY5JEjR/yr6ZeeXxHvtkMkdXadJ5ChVUXQvwndhaX8kBIf1Ra7seflRmbR9gUnr+3u KBYqNpT3Ng5r6TVX6NU4p/dMFo+Ojk6UJkEBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=txBQVJvqfEiISurATvrwSU2pGzq9w9XP7yOsxuA/O8SbwZ4MhmLvxJqiXAOsjrhrKA 7wVoHeE24wuG70ePHarKRI74CbG30+YYRIwrqKhlxbzi+ysOUMX/qC5ED+M/ox8m3e0J j5mruy+fVbmIKmiP5upW6xB7+98UIQ6dY/xus= Received: by 10.90.30.19 with SMTP id d19mr1260071agd.148.1282880349325; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:39:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.185.19 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> From: Isamu Onoda Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:38:54 +0900 Message-ID: To: Matias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:15 -0000 Hi, Matias Maybe you already found the solution but I hope information below will helps you a little: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D4217 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-November/005310.html Also try looking into BIOS setting just like Roland suggested. Sincerely, Isamu Onoda -- Isamu Onoda mail: onoda11@gmail.com TEL:=A0 080-3757-6465 IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMVM IMPERIVM EST 2010/8/27 Roland Smith : > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Matias wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've just bought a Giada i20 mini-pc for my home server. I've managed to >> slow down the cpu speed with powerd, but the fan keeps running at a >> (what seems to me) too high speed. > >> Do you know if there is anything I can do on freebsd to reduce its >> speed/noise? > > Are there any sysctls for the fan? Try 'sysctl -a|grep fan' > Also check in the BIOS if there are relevant settings. > >> p/d: The hardware is this: >> http://www.giadatech.com/chanpinzhongxin/minipc/slim%20series/2010-01-19= /17.html > > Looks nice for a desktop as well. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 =A0B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A72= 5) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 04:10:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518A6106564A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onoda11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C698FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1111993gxk.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OU0fcJWcqK0m+o58vCcHvX0/FFER9jIvyU6TJycXKng=; b=HQ3PruWCE+AQCPt/o84lhenfOTm0LH7o9nMGiMFZ+J2WeLBH69bpO7LSu791tSV3nX TelmJTTfChvk5Uj9GSAUK2eosn4k5iHSt70O3R/qkeWh6ASuft9i7UznOvmGOCiwtZ6N UWvPqZ8TgDZJqy5d4/B8Pq/UMl9V3N2yLxibk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B7v2SNfLZQrOMdCkNYLF0YLBTA+6rSGxbO5OOZkWEcpdMOeeKQ+5We/VZIZlpg9997 VqkkjlYMr1nOOiUFSVarnIGhX16nR6+BXNY35Nah4cvjDtL7w4VjR+aKuXGXbt/twew3 waj4jnOPXr3mH2J3/IxaXCHeoqJ8t3JyGjs7w= Received: by 10.90.75.20 with SMTP id x20mr1284166aga.145.1282880915222; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:48:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.185.19 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:48:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100826185426.GD4084@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> <20100826185426.GD4084@osiris.chen.org.nz> From: Isamu Onoda Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:48:20 +0900 Message-ID: To: Nita Pavitran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:10:38 -0000 Hi, Nita You can also use ~ to mention your home directory. $ cd ~ // Go to home directory $ pwd // Check the output, to know where is the home and may use chdir command if you want to change your home directory. Sincerely, Isamu Onoda -- Isamu Onoda mail: onoda11@gmail.com TEL:=A0 080-3757-6465 IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMVM IMPERIVM EST 2010/8/27 Jonathan Chen : > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:11:40PM +0530, Nita Pavitran wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory >> instead of the home directory: >> >> Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied >> > uname -a >> FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: >> Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 >> root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink =A0i386 >> > >> >> Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. > > Check the output of: > =A0 =A0ls -ld / > =A0 =A0ls -ld /homes > =A0 =A0ls -ld /homes/nitap > > -- > Jonathan Chen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"You can get farther with a kind word and a gun > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0than you can with a kind word = alone" - Al Capone > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 04:13:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D721065694 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onoda11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2668D8FC24 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so1064811pzk.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=djo8B3Pku69aIItOub5+Q0T99PSHt8+g5gwH5+ghTz0=; b=PEpQg/QKXfpVx19TTvvR1nMf/CFnV8c7L4/jROSY3/lBrkBIdjvujnNQi9PYezl43M Ht4G0sUUKgwlbPHcF90TOJqE6MuIECegIJgmxAZik1YDm/TuPz958e18MqXkMFCpB76A 5EeT01ymurDqduu6fUcs618qEwaV7AXn9OvKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S0GI4znM88kUmeQa/YGw4knufeGv27hqWxQ0jY3k7qzYUixrRA5mGD0cI+RtviTik1 fMIysZdR7b602HUfQQjYmNzLwqb3m7U8W+MdxNpfb9z8BS4cNwlrDIoU6fNAHPN0Shcy uZeEDajVRgoXMQPuKlwQ/CbIhYe8at5pI+MrU= Received: by 10.142.255.9 with SMTP id c9mr703345wfi.269.1282882392117; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.216.7 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:12:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C76BB1C.1090805@bsdforen.de> References: <4C76BB1C.1090805@bsdforen.de> From: Isamu Onoda Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:12:56 +0900 Message-ID: To: Dominic Fandrey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change file creation time on msdosfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:13:13 -0000 Hi Dominic, Did you tried "ls -lu" or "ls -lc" to check the time stamp? In some of the format, unix does not support getting those information. If you still want to try, using fsdb command, and modifying file system itself may work. Use mtime/ctime/atime built-in command whichever you want to change. [man of fsdb] http://pine.ict.nsc.ru/cgi-bin/www/unix_help/unix-man?fsdb+8 Sincerely, Isamu Onoda -- Isamu Onoda mail: onoda11@gmail.com TEL:=A0 080-3757-6465 IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMVM IMPERIVM EST 2010/8/27 Dominic Fandrey : > I need to change the file creation time of some files on an > msdosfs file system. > > Is there any other way to do this than copying the file and deleting > the original? The usual suspects like touch and mv do not work. > > Regards > > -- > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 04:43:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3D610656A7 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62C28FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so2545662iwn.13 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:43:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rsb26bMlL5Zyjd26N1ERDgPYf/y5EN2QRdUT1Dnf4E0=; b=gxfycoyJFo7QgxOwtBwh5BvGDJCzSsVEnJ4bSMh/LQF0dHmD7QWc4GJ+QXYYZipiUt bUh4/TiTIOmdNFTY0QANTY6liz0wb43tqO2+ovKpEL0mUqEi7etJ8jw6y8smiKkyuYPb j4N3UmsTYoZukz+HqVagCbRfCz/Lfx8zK4uBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XA/XTlI4aMfZDHFBulwUPjHyUSlW5kL85ZZa0s9vmnqahJY5grfG6UCXOqnMzRA5YU lgrO0NfovUx2aAExtUkqeD3K0zkijn1RAJjMLiRXww++ZU76ISdwGOlVpn4jt5BZE+9W lnRMeu7A9cfnEBP13KJWFQOush/yFIu1cdclA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr503996ibp.67.1282884202321; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.141 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:22 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: claudiu vasadi , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Laptop stuck at bios splash again :-( .(chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:43:23 -0000 It seems like i am awfully unlucky :-( ,getting two bad HDDs in a row or iam doing something terribly wrong. With my new HDD ;installed ubuntu and this time installed PC bsd not freebsd ,in a separate partition. It booted up once into PC bsd,life was good and then from next reboot .it is stuck at bios splash. As Bruce from this list commented to an earlier mail(not booting after freebsd install) ,i am assuming my bios (INSYDE bios) doesn't like freebsd partitions or freebsd in combination with ubuntu ? On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Mubeesh ali wrot= e: > yes. there is an un allocated 50 gb space (deleted a partition using > win 7 partition tools) and we created a feebsd slice in the > unallocated space while running sysinstall =A0....However in the next > screen; i guess where it should give us an option to partition the > freebsd slice into root,home,swap =A0etc ? it throws this error about > the track boundary and it defaults to use the entire disk. > > sure i will double check the procedure in handbook. > > thanks, > Mubeesh > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM, claudiu vasadi > wrote: >> of course there is. if you have empty space, create a freebsd slice and = your >> set. >> >> handbook - instalation section section 2.6 is EXACTLY what you need, but= I >> strongly recommend reading the handbook (as much as possible) >> > > > > -- > Best=A0 Regards, > > Mubeesh Ali.V.M > --=20 Best=A0 Regards, Mubeesh Ali.V.M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 05:19:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C82B1065693 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85D28FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7R5JbN8038774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:19:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C774AE1.2040800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:19:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Flecko References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE82AD68E9255BD30F0D713C6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:19:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE82AD68E9255BD30F0D713C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/08/2010 23:07:35, Ed Flecko wrote: > I have a server I'm building that is internet accessible and I'm > wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages of using either SFTP > -vs- SCP? >=20 > My primary concern is overall security of the server (even if that > means inconveniencing the end users), and I'm wondering if one method > might be better than the other? It depends what you mean by SFTP. If you mean the SSH sub-system (file transfer tunnelled over SSH using a client which works like the FTP client), then there is no practical difference in security compared to scp(1). sftp(1) and scp(1) are very similar over the wire and server-side: it's just the client interface that's different. On the other hand, if you mean crusty old FTP tarted up with some SSL trappings -- which should really be called FTPS, but lots of people are confused about the naming -- then *run away*. It may run over SSL, but it has all of the design flaws of regular FTP plus the fact that it's over SSL means you can't even use firewall proxies like ftp-proxy(8). If you want a means of secure upload that can be used natively from windows, try WebDAV. You can, in theory, mount a WebDAV directory as a partition in Windows, although this is a lot more painful than it needs to be. (As they say: with Windows, failure is not an option). The same thing on a Mac works beautifully, but then it's Unix already and you can just use sftp or scp natively from Terminal.app. See the appendix to the SVN manual for some useful hints: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn-book.html#svn.webdav Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE82AD68E9255BD30F0D713C6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx3SukACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwNegCfZC97j1okM///Nk2DeGdKaUdr WrEAn34KQZWeYMPbeGjFDAjL9J252n9f =CgJ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE82AD68E9255BD30F0D713C6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 06:29:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946361065675 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-2-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:679::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0A18FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-82-31-24-1.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [82.31.24.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BB695F15; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:28:58 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Mubeesh ali Message-ID: <20100827072858.000072d4@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , claudiu vasadi Subject: Re: Laptop stuck at bios splash again :-( .(chunk 'ad1s4 ; ad1s2 ,ad1s3 does not start on a track boundary : install issue) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:29:01 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:22 +0530 Mubeesh ali wrote: > It seems like i am awfully unlucky :-( ,getting two bad HDDs in a row > or iam doing something terribly wrong. > > With my new HDD ;installed ubuntu and this time installed PC bsd not > freebsd ,in a separate partition. > > It booted up once into PC bsd,life was good and then from next reboot > .it is stuck at bios splash. > As Bruce from this list commented to an earlier mail(not booting after > freebsd install) ,i am assuming my bios (INSYDE bios) doesn't like > freebsd partitions or freebsd in combination with ubuntu ? It seems the INSYDE bios is rather poor: other people have had problems when trying to use TrueCrypt or PGP in Windows: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7hardware/thread/cc99bd9c-c65c-4ad1-a892-653be6102195 -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 06:34:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7E41065696 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEFF8FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o7R6Ym2i081565; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:34:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7R6YnK7001517; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:34:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7R6YhNB001516; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:34:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:34:43 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Eitan Adler Message-ID: <20100827063443.GA1491@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4C704C7B.134759E5@blakemfg.com> <4C707AA6.8F60FE62@blakemfg.com> <4C708E6D.88FF2B9F@blakemfg.com> <20100822075157.GA1485@gothic.blackend.org> <4C71318C.2AA5F140@blakemfg.com> <20100826133725.GB1491@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Fred Boatwright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:34:55 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:11:27PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers > >> could be selected.  Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinstall > >> program when FBSD is initially being installed. > >> > > > > Yes, people can't guess what are the names of the drivers, it's in my > > opinion a problem for this port.  I Cced the maintainer. > > I have a lot on my plate right now so I can't guarantee that I'll > solve this soon. > Would depending on x11-driver/xorg-drivers instead of requiring > VIDEO_DRIVER being set help at all? > I intended this port to be used when you require X11 to up and running > fast without any overhead. That is why things like xset aren't > installed. It is possible to run X11 with the vesa driver even if you > can get better performance with a different driver. > Having a config menu to select the drivers to be installed (via OPTIONS) is what is missing. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 06:46:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EDB1065672 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:679::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA678FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-82-31-24-1.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [82.31.24.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B13C5F15; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:46:06 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Tamara Ferris Message-ID: <20100827074606.000012de@unknown> In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need Res Utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:46:09 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:18:19 +0530 Tamara Ferris wrote: > Hi, > > I got this error message. I also need the Res utility. > > % show res tp5 > show: Command not found. I'm not sure where res or tp5 come from, but you might want to use "which" or "whereis" instead of "show" which doesn't exist, at least on FreeBSD: > show uname show: Command not found. > which uname /usr/bin/uname > whereis uname uname: /usr/bin/uname /usr/share/man/man1/uname.1.gz -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 07:24:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF0810656A3 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419578FC19 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OotIM-0006ou-1w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:24:14 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7R7OG5A002607 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:24:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7R7OGgw002606 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:24:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:24:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player (was: running FreeBSD on Windows host) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:24:16 -0000 El día Tuesday, August 24, 2010 a las 01:10:00PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > I have produced three dumps: from the /, /var and /usr file system. The > > man page of restore(8) reads about creating pristine file system, made > > by newfs(8). Later, in the VM environment, I'd like to have only one big > > file system... Is it possible to restore the tree dumps into one big > > file system or do I have to rebuild the same slicing as I now have? > > > > You won't have to rebuild the slicing. Just create the relevant > directories in your big file system, cd into them and use restore. Will it be a problem having the kernel /boot/* in this case far away from the beginning of the partition? I did some 1st tests with installing FreeBSD into a VM. I grabed some other laptop which runs already Win7 and installed a VMWare-player in it to do some tests. Of course the VMWare-player was not able to boot from a prepared USB key. A workaround was a boot from some ISO image of a "boot manger" (I used plpbt-5.0.10.zip from http://www.plop.at/) which allows you to choose the USB storage as boot device after 1st stage boot. The system comes up fine from the USB key and I created a 160 GByte slice with the standard procedure like: # fdisk -I /dev/ad0 # fdisk -B /dev/ad0 # bsdlabel -w ad0s1 auto # bsdlabel -B ad0s1 edit the disk label and change partition "a" from "unused" to "4.2BSD" as partition type: # setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/vi # bsdlabel -e ad0s1 create the future root-filesystem on it and mount it to /mnt for the installation: # newfs -m 0 -o space /dev/ad0s1a # mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt install freebsd into /mnt; this assumes that you have the kernel and userland in /usr/src and /usr/obj ready to be installed; # cd /usr/src # make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt The 'make installworld' failed with errors in the Makefiles (...); for example the file /usr/src/lib/libc/uuid/Makefile.inc had a line like this: SRCS+? uuid_compare.c uuid_create.c uuid_create_nil.c uuid_equal.c \ uuid_from_string>c uuid_hash.c uuid_is_nil.c uuid_stream.# \ uuid_to_string.c where it should have: SRCS+= uuid_compare.c uuid_create.c uuid_create_nil.c uuid_equal.c \ uuid_from_string.c uuid_hash.c uuid_is_nil.c uuid_stream.c \ uuid_to_string.c (note the ? singn and the # sign), i.e. the content was broken and some other files were missing in the /usr/src tree of the USB key. I used the same key last year to install from it the system to my netbook EeePC and it worked like it should. Since then the USB key was unused and carried around in the bag of my laptop. Is it possible that the data gets corrupt on an USB key after some time? I'm wondering why the system even is intact to be booted from... Will prepare the key again or just fill in the dumps I have... matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 07:57:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F2E10656AE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADE08FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so2692616iwn.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:57:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2R72i83u2PPPzo9510L7sM8PhpQ4NNidEhSFANvrLno=; b=sb84E02wENAFxu0YeWq7wrXloxzu3GJY+ULpV94dek2EyjHmWGwIaEG24MVhhVLANa IRdyBdXC0GSHxHBnARlKqBs5SaSCErol5D7k2tbNIFIJ8Gxk2vcw3bFSe3LkWBd6KgpZ 2UPWjzWVicFmtg87v52Y85/Xrb9eXLSSAkoDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=cJkap0Dmpd55sjnZAeGVEjyVhDTGD2sDu8XegscxLb5vs4H3Ur2NMWbr7ftrtOuwnw pVuyFVE3MM8/xaT0FDUptnFBbHz7VOieuKTX7FISoDOL5aOHf2mqHCh4I7yT3TXj/+D4 o20ZJl46JYcdwBAxmsyZu7RuOLM/JAAWhiCZY= Received: by 10.231.192.67 with SMTP id dp3mr603620ibb.180.1282893935186; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.136 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:25:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2937@emailbng2.jnpr.net> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:25:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dDzIabt10nuz0KGK2lsdQ15iirE Message-ID: To: Tamara Ferris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Res Utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:57:12 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Tamara Ferris wrote: > Hi, > > I got this error message. I also need the Res utility. > > % show res tp5 > show: Command not found. > Uhm are you at the right privilege level perhaps? > % uname -a > JUNOS sugar 10.4B2 JUNOS 10.4B2 #0: 2010-08-20 07:55:25 UTC > builder@warth.juniper.net:/volume/build/junos/10.4/release/10.4B2/obj-i3 > 86/bsd/sys/compile/JUNIPER i386 > While JunOS is FreeBSD based,... seeing as you're a Juniper employee,.... shouldn't you ask you're colleagues about youre RES util issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 08:39:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E851065696 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08538FC24 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so2782157qwg.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=eeZ2Gg2VsKXwMKSitlpEWXBPLz4lWg/5qumY1pPW0Vc=; b=r4l2vstbLLjpjtYayNm9lV5ZnyPLv7RgPC6P+Z825YPKTje17q21yFaH4MhRqKNDsu BHyF4b1ilWuaI6Qqs1A74VhqNiEUq982K4wNSFy5tx5xWqfxOm44BOpQTaIBPUkN4ojG Fx13u5dgd+w2XkZJiC9x2PUA/lOxYyBKi50/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HGhREnnE+Ksh64POP0RxD5wdSTGNa8YLVfxPxfzAca0V0Wso6/cV+gu0MAGWye1WZV 8EWdAkPs3NSJA5Eb4VxRL8buQcLFVxbNxKjiEaysTQaSbccTcneExEKZGYH9e1CU/Hox JLBq8pHp/hOEEKvG35pafyRn4lH6ZdtQcWyA4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.104.132 with SMTP id p4mr94774qao.322.1282898374031; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:39:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C774AE1.2040800@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4C774AE1.2040800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advantage -vs- Disadvantage: SFTP -vs- SCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:39:35 -0000 On 27 August 2010 06:19, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 26/08/2010 23:07:35, Ed Flecko wrote: > > > I have a server I'm building that is internet accessible and I'm > > wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages of using either SFTP > > -vs- SCP? > > > > My primary concern is overall security of the server (even if that > > means inconveniencing the end users), and I'm wondering if one method > > might be better than the other? > > It depends what you mean by SFTP. If you mean the SSH sub-system (file > transfer tunnelled over SSH using a client which works like the FTP > client), then there is no practical difference in security compared to > scp(1). sftp(1) and scp(1) are very similar over the wire and > server-side: it's just the client interface that's different. > > On the other hand, if you mean crusty old FTP tarted up with some SSL > trappings -- which should really be called FTPS, but lots of people are > confused about the naming -- then *run away*. It may run over SSL, but > it has all of the design flaws of regular FTP plus the fact that it's > over SSL means you can't even use firewall proxies like ftp-proxy(8). > > If you want a means of secure upload that can be used natively from > windows, try WebDAV. You can, in theory, mount a WebDAV directory as a > partition in Windows, although this is a lot more painful than it needs > to be. (As they say: with Windows, failure is not an option). The same > thing on a Mac works beautifully, but then it's Unix already and you can > just use sftp or scp natively from Terminal.app. See the appendix to > the SVN manual for some useful hints: > > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn-book.html#svn.webdav > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > SFTP is better than scp if you just want to transfer files, as the users dont have to have shell access to the box to use the openssh SFTP system. As mentioned above dont confuse sftp with ftps/ftp-ssl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 09:06:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FDE1065695 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561458FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4365974.home.otenet.gr [79.130.14.134]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7R969Rh006437 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:06:09 +0300 Message-ID: <4C778001.3030809@otenet.gr> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:06:09 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:06:12 -0000 On 27/08/2010 10:24 Ï€.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Is it possible that the data gets corrupt on an USB key after some time? > I'm wondering why the system even is intact to be booted from... > > Will prepare the key again or just fill in the dumps I have... > > matthias > I've heard of stories of data 'fading out' from USB flash drives after some period of complete inactivity. Haven't experienced this myself though. Otherwise your procedure looks fine and it shouldn't fail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 09:43:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A57B1065694 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99F18FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so3069256vws.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7h4fiMmARIBaVK3n9+KVIN+a69K3LWyqf7kpfXTpoM0=; b=jGFdJ690pM8Lg+lnW0A8bmhrmbsInFh2y/b3YvwJzn5WZ46Yp5jBXxf4nWmLyv+Kjp IkPKMf6dhRvD7JQim++pPSAFbSf3xBMo6jaqiT8W05Ter4PwzLTjsxNlxmHc+AxXLdAy 4WrCtD9wG+l/IwOm9uK7bIj99v4Y25DVAVHWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Y/d3MQhgvucU2q8bkAZU7ps01RK97lsVVV3l7JO6C14lNvnmUhTe2/Y/mmXKmHQXTU ga2cJWZnLYsRHmFjOPRCWMjNWM/KuRwILCBDMbJZPLhUdVjzWNq3j3N5xKDdLY3BOM9H jU5B5niMJLNbbUh2EEQNzADIr+BoHabYV7yy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.157.201 with SMTP id c9mr328684vcx.265.1282900871663; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.163.135 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:11 +0300 Message-ID: From: Mike Barnard To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dell Latitude E6400 and Touchpad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:43:48 -0000 Hi, I have a dell as mentioned in the subject. I have been trying to get the touchpad horizontal scroll and vertical scroll to work with no avail. I have hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" entered in loader.conf but all my sysctl.conf variables that pertain to the touchpad dump error on boot. It appears that the synaptics support is not loaded at boot time. I am running FreeBSD 8.1 RC1 amd64. Any one experience this or know how to get the synaptics touchpad working -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 09:45:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A45E106564A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F378FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oov66-0005r7-NA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:19:42 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oov60-0004Ur-Kt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:19:36 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8CE39856 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:19:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C778326.8090802@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:19:34 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Oov60-0004Ur-Kt X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.156, vereist 5, BAYES_50 0.00, SPF_PASS -0.00, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION 0.16) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Problems with upgrade - lost partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:45:36 -0000 Hi, I recently updated a machine (running on VMWare) from 7.2 to 8.1. This machine has two (virtual) disks. While the upgrade went rather smooth ('make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot into single user, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster, reboot), I lost the partition on the second harddrive. So after reboot, the machine went directly in single user mode, because my /dev/ad1s1a was gone. The only devices in /dev where ad1 (the disk) and ad1s1 (the slice). Since I had a backup this didn't seem to be such a problem, however recreating the slice was. The only way I could get rid of that slice was through the gpart utility (sysinstall wouldn't help me at all): gpart delete ad1s1 gpart destroy ad1 After that sysinstall worked again. Is there any way around this (and preferably rescue the partition somehow, since I have more machines to upgrade, and while backups are there, restoring creates an additional delay in the whole process). Also, the numbering of the NICs changed from le0 to le1, which isn't that a big problem, but rather annoying. Thanks in advance. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 10:03:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AFF10656A7 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from mailgw.dannysplace.net (mailgw.dannysplace.net [204.109.56.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6E98FC1F for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [203.206.171.212] (helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mailgw.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Oovmv-0007ZY-Nx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:03:58 +1000 Message-ID: <4C778D82.6060802@dannysplace.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:03:46 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Exim-Version: 4.72 (build at 12-Jul-2010 18:31:29) X-Date: 2010-08-27 20:03:58 X-Connected-IP: 203.206.171.212:62630 X-Message-Linecount: 65 X-Body-Linecount: 52 X-Message-Size: 2307 X-Body-Size: 1701 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 203.206.171.212 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fbsd@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on damka.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mailgw.dannysplace.net) Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:03:54 -0000 Hiya Nita,... I'm sure you'll get lots of help on this list. Just a question for you. Any chance you could convice the Juniper bigwigs to release the source code for the DX platform given that it's now end of life? I know it was based on FreeBSD and, as a former Redline/DX user I know it's got some nice stuff under the hood. I know that the BSD community would be thrilled if Juniper were to give something back to the people who provided the platform that DX was based on. If such a thing were to happen, I know I'd find it hard to ever recommend a different network tech vendor to my clients. It's a long shot, but I figured it was worth asking the question ;-) -D p.s. if you still are stuck with your homedir problems, feel free to contact me off-list. On 27/08/2010 3:41 AM, Nita Pavitran wrote: > Hi, > > I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory > instead of the home directory: > > Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied >> uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 > root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 > > Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. > > Thanks and regards, > Nita > .................................... > Nita Pavitran > Technical Publishing Engineer > Juniper Networks > o +91 80 30711390 > m +91 98808 66566 > nitap@juniper.net > www.juniper.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 10:13:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F010656A3 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B028FC1C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJsrd0xbsbWC/2dsb2JhbACgU3K7OoU3BA Received: from 130.181-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.177.181.130]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2010 12:13:07 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7RAD7DF002599; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:13:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Rem P Roberti Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:12:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; i386; ; ) References: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3889802.1062Bj3vxR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008271213.06492.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic or deadlock with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:16 -0000 --nextPart3889802.1062Bj3vxR Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 26 August 2010 05:55:42 Rem P Roberti wrote: > In an attempt to diagnose why my Thinkpad R51 completely locks up when > trying to access X I have done the following. I built a debugging > kernel, with KDB, DDB, WITNESS, INVARIANT*, AND DIAGNOSTIC in addition > to *BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. None of these things have yielded any progress > in isolating the issue. Note that replacing the 'intel' driver with the > 'vesa' driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not cause the computer to > hang. The problem appears to be specific to the intel driver. Also, I > have been unable to get a crash report (which is what we were hoping to > see in /var/crash) regardless of the debugging options built into the > kernel. >=20 > I have attached the output of 'uname -a', 'dmesg', and 'pciconf -lv' to > this post. It could be related to DRI, so try to disable it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section "Module" Disable "dri" Disable "dri2" EndSection --nextPart3889802.1062Bj3vxR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iF4EABEIAAYFAkx3j7IACgkQfoCS2CCgtit4vgD8DtzRTOR3XbX5bl9QdDsGMpV2 cgGfAK9WJBjSH8dWOhYA/ixSdQX6uTXB9EW5z3+nIgzhJjE6CUy0XPzmlBgX1qqg =ga0P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3889802.1062Bj3vxR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 10:30:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181E41065673 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msurdi@tuenti.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F918FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so3891239wyb.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.73 with SMTP id y51mr610925web.85.1282903341496; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msurdi-laptop2.tuenti.local ([62.97.71.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u11sm2323494weq.7.2010.08.27.03.02.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:18 +0200 From: Matias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions To: Isamu Onoda References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:30:24 -0000 El 27/08/10 05:38, Isamu Onoda escribió: > Hi, Matias > > Maybe you already found the solution but I hope information below will > helps you a little: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=4217 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-November/005310.html > > Also try looking into BIOS setting just like Roland suggested. > > Sincerely, > Isamu Onoda > > -- > Isamu Onoda > mail: onoda11@gmail.com > TEL: 080-3757-6465 > IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMVM IMPERIVM EST > > > > > 2010/8/27 Roland Smith: >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Matias wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just bought a Giada i20 mini-pc for my home server. I've managed to >>> slow down the cpu speed with powerd, but the fan keeps running at a >>> (what seems to me) too high speed. >> >>> Do you know if there is anything I can do on freebsd to reduce its >>> speed/noise? >> >> Are there any sysctls for the fan? Try 'sysctl -a|grep fan' >> Also check in the BIOS if there are relevant settings. >> >>> p/d: The hardware is this: >>> http://www.giadatech.com/chanpinzhongxin/minipc/slim%20series/2010-01-19/17.html >> >> Looks nice for a desktop as well. >> >> Roland >> -- >> R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ >> [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] >> pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks for replying! I've tried everything you mention here with no success: The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also. I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature will be to get windows on it and see what happens. If it works, then I will keep investigating further, if not, then maybe it is impossible to stop it (without using brute force, of course :-) ) Thanks for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 10:02:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63810656A3 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA828FC14 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OovlU-0006nF-MT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:28 +0200 Received: from 62.97.71.6 ([62.97.71.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:28 +0200 Received: from matiassurdi by 62.97.71.6 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:18 +0200 Lines: 69 Message-ID: <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.97.71.6 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:12:59 +0000 Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:02:30 -0000 El 27/08/10 05:38, Isamu Onoda escribió: > Hi, Matias > > Maybe you already found the solution but I hope information below will > helps you a little: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=4217 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-November/005310.html > > Also try looking into BIOS setting just like Roland suggested. > > Sincerely, > Isamu Onoda > > -- > Isamu Onoda > mail: onoda11@gmail.com > TEL: 080-3757-6465 > IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMVM IMPERIVM EST > > > > > 2010/8/27 Roland Smith: >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Matias wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just bought a Giada i20 mini-pc for my home server. I've managed to >>> slow down the cpu speed with powerd, but the fan keeps running at a >>> (what seems to me) too high speed. >> >>> Do you know if there is anything I can do on freebsd to reduce its >>> speed/noise? >> >> Are there any sysctls for the fan? Try 'sysctl -a|grep fan' >> Also check in the BIOS if there are relevant settings. >> >>> p/d: The hardware is this: >>> http://www.giadatech.com/chanpinzhongxin/minipc/slim%20series/2010-01-19/17.html >> >> Looks nice for a desktop as well. >> >> Roland >> -- >> R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ >> [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] >> pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks for replying! I've tried everything you mention here with no success: The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also. I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature will be to get windows on it and see what happens. If it works, then I will keep investigating further, if not, then maybe it is impossible to stop it (without using brute force, of course :-) ) Thanks for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 11:35:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496FE1065694 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albinv4616@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46D78FC1C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so3961880wyb.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:35:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GYtQ4vbiqDHXaWMmRLsKom7NWXGy4o+5BuIoWJrPQhs=; b=G/sKEHwpc4GU936ipxvgZ8Aq8w2cXcmLalGoYV4biO4e+L4AQGmYtgd2kF7g/YNtvm oYr0PxxLi8YUV5y8shMZJrUP0FCcU/kRD89idgiBIZYGH7Q3oKLbRFUfb8/SzbeCIq2m Yg059aTxIFgEZtx0BbwnTSmOnlYf+TY0+TQ4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nkvZMBPuyOTfnQDq+Y6BGfCwXTit1Rr55mA7G6nIrkOKO+X5oeJfu/eio4Sj4kzQzg v0aEhME9RS2YoHfrIIoNedqox8x+Qjbky1XNXwz7X9f3Qw2LjGx+l4sdG5L0j+F6LAjP Ry0r9EtjsxMGVbobRbZR8nd1uROguEotRv0ZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.1 with SMTP id h1mr749986wea.20.1282908912714; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.176.4 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:35:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: Albin Vega To: Bacula Mailingliste , FreeBSD Mailingliste Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Problem installing Bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:14 -0000 Hello Trying to install bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server. After installation the bacula client should start automatically but it dont. I then tried to start the bacula windows service manually but are getting the following (and pointless) error message: Error 1067. The prosess terminated unexpektedly. Ok, so now i open a CMD window and try to start the service by starting bacula-fd.exe, but with no luck. Then I add the -t option and get the error message: 27-Aug 13:14 bacula-fd: ERROR TERMINATION at /home/kern/bacula/k/bacula/src/lib/ parse_conf.c:898 Config error: Cannot open config file "C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf": No such file or directory I try to look in the ProgramDate catalogue to see if i can find the bacula-fd.conf file and have a look in it. But there is no ProgramData catalogue. The bacula-fd.conf file is in in C:/Program files/bacula catalogue. Looks like this: # # Default Bacula File Daemon Configuration file # # For Bacula release 5.0.3 (08/05/10) -- Windows MinGW64 # # There is not much to change here except perhaps the # File daemon Name # # # "Global" File daemon configuration specifications # FileDaemon { # this is me Name = clientservername-fd FDport = 9102 # where we listen for the director WorkingDirectory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" Pid Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" # Plugin Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins" Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 } # # List Directors who are permitted to contact this File daemon # Director { Name = backup.mydomainname.com-fd Password = "mypassword" } # # Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the # status of the file daemon # Director { Name = @monitor_name@ Password = "@monitor_password@" Monitor = yes } # Send all messages except skipped files back to Director Messages { Name = Standard director = backup.mydomainname.com-fd = all, !skipped, !restored } The password is the same on the client and the servert, I checked that. Anyhow, it should be possible to start the deamon/service even if the client have no contact with the servere, right? Anybody have a fix on this? Best regards Albin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 12:01:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0561065693 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:679::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FF08FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-82-31-24-1.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com [82.31.24.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D96B5F15; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:01:22 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Matias Message-ID: <20100827130122.00003bb4@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:01:26 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:18 +0200 Matias wrote: > I've tried everything you mention here with no success: > > The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the > date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also. I guess that my > only option to check if the hardware has the feature will be to get > windows on it and see what happens. If it works, then I will keep > investigating further, if not, then maybe it is impossible to stop it > (without using brute force, of course :-) ) You might want to keep checking for BIOS updates: I got a new PC last year with a Gigabyte motherboard and support for variable (PWM) fan speed was only fixed afer a couple of months, and they've kept putting out more versions since then. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 12:17:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34101065693 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DC48FC12 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ooxs8-0005kX-44 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:17:28 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RCHR1n004242 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:17:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7RCHR0D004241 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:17:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:17:27 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827121727.GA4224@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> <4C778001.3030809@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C778001.3030809@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:17:30 -0000 El día Friday, August 27, 2010 a las 12:06:09PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > On 27/08/2010 10:24 ??.??., Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Is it possible that the data gets corrupt on an USB key after some time? > > I'm wondering why the system even is intact to be booted from... > > > > Will prepare the key again or just fill in the dumps I have... > > > > matthias > > > > I've heard of stories of data 'fading out' from USB flash drives after > some period of complete inactivity. > Haven't experienced this myself though. Otherwise your procedure looks > fine and it shouldn't fail. A dump of the key gives several error messages: # dump -0au -f usb8.dmp /dev/da0s1a DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Aug 27 14:06:04 2010 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a to usb8.dmp DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 3980686 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: 52.81% done, finished in 0:04 at Fri Aug 27 14:15:35 2010 DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 4992928]: count=8192 read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 4992870]: count=10240 DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 4992896]: count=7168 DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992928]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992870]: count=512 read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992896]: count=512 DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992899]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992931]: count=512 read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992873]: count=512 DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 5032906]: count=10240 read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 5032928]: count=9216 DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 5032946]: count=7168 I will re-create the key or even use another media; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 12:23:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D701065673 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF16D8FC1C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A7963316B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:05:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3842CEC21 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:07:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:07:13 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827140713.41391a3e@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <96E6F9A3-49F5-4C55-8248-6D62717636DF@lafn.org> References: <96E6F9A3-49F5-4C55-8248-6D62717636DF@lafn.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Routing Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:23:43 -0000 Le Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:19 -0700, Doug Hardie a écrit : > PF's route_to will return the packets to the proper router, but I have not > been able to figure out which ones those would be. The source IP > address can be any on either network and its highly likely that we > will see packets from the same source network on both at the same > time. The only distinction I see in the input packets between the > two paths is the MAC address of the router. I don't see any way in > pf or the system to use that to affect the return path > though. the filter option "reply-to" looks to be what you need. It works by keeping the state of a connection (see pf.conf(5)). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 13:20:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BE110656AA for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389828FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4365974.home.otenet.gr [79.130.14.134]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o7RDKfse004419; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:20:41 +0300 Message-ID: <4C77BBA9.1030804@otenet.gr> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:20:41 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> <4C778001.3030809@otenet.gr> <20100827121727.GA4224@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100827121727.GA4224@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:20:43 -0000 On 27/08/2010 3:17 μ.μ., Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, August 27, 2010 a las 12:06:09PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > >> On 27/08/2010 10:24 ??.??., Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> Is it possible that the data gets corrupt on an USB key after some time? >>> I'm wondering why the system even is intact to be booted from... >>> >>> Will prepare the key again or just fill in the dumps I have... >>> >>> matthias >>> >> I've heard of stories of data 'fading out' from USB flash drives after >> some period of complete inactivity. >> Haven't experienced this myself though. Otherwise your procedure looks >> fine and it shouldn't fail. > A dump of the key gives several error messages: > > # dump -0au -f usb8.dmp /dev/da0s1a > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Aug 27 14:06:04 2010 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a to usb8.dmp > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 3980686 tape blocks. > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] > DUMP: 52.81% done, finished in 0:04 at Fri Aug 27 14:15:35 2010 > DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block > 4992928]: count=8192 > read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 4992870]: > count=10240 > DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block > 4992896]: count=7168 > DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector > 4992928]: count=512 > DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector > 4992870]: count=512 > read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992896]: > count=512 > DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector > 4992899]: count=512 > DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector > 4992931]: count=512 > read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [sector 4992873]: > count=512 > DUMP: DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block > 5032906]: count=10240 > read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block 5032928]: > count=9216 > DUMP: read error from /dev/da0s1a: Input/output error: [block > 5032946]: count=7168 > > I will re-create the key or even use another media; > > matthias > Try recreating, preferably newfs the key first. Don't be surprised if you find out you need a new USB key. This reminds me of a recent incident I had with another key (of a respected brand as well) which failed and disappeared(!) from the bus while I was writing to it, plugged in on my freebsdgr.org server. Not only I had to umount -f, but subsequently seems the whole USB subsystem got 'stuck' and I had to reboot the server for it to work again. As I said, I have not witnessed 'data fading' in USB flash drives, but this the third one I throw away due to total hardware failure... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 13:38:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525B5106566C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079A68FC2C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ooz8k-0007Se-Q0 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:38:42 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RDcgGd004820 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:38:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7RDcg6v004819 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:38:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:38:41 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827133841.GA4800@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100823070819.GB2539@current.Sisis.de> <4C7241C2.2000305@otenet.gr> <20100823112621.GA4367@current.Sisis.de> <4C725BFC.90006@otenet.gr> <20100824084225.GA2160@current.Sisis.de> <4C739A78.4070303@otenet.gr> <20100827072416.GA2516@current.Sisis.de> <4C778001.3030809@otenet.gr> <20100827121727.GA4224@current.Sisis.de> <4C77BBA9.1030804@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C77BBA9.1030804@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: Subject: Re: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:38:45 -0000 El día Friday, August 27, 2010 a las 04:20:41PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > Try recreating, preferably newfs the key first. Don't be surprised if > you find out you need a new USB key. newfs(8) did not worked; a format in Win7 lies that it was fine and stops later writing to it after 2 GByte of 8; have to look for another key; thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 14:32:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB891065693 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11FC8FC22 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so1360191ywt.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.215.21 with SMTP id n21mr1828400ybg.298.1282919520982; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u41sm4108412yba.10.2010.08.27.07.31.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-071-070-144-046.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.144.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B046E5480D for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:31:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:31:55 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827103155.22333d7d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Problem installing Bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:32:02 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:35:12 +0200 Albin Vega articulated: > Hello > > Trying to install bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server. After > installation the bacula client should start automatically but it > dont. I then tried to start the bacula windows service manually but > are getting the following (and pointless) error message: Error 1067. > The prosess terminated unexpektedly. > > Ok, so now i open a CMD window and try to start the service > by starting bacula-fd.exe, but with no luck. Then I add the -t option > and get the error message: > > 27-Aug 13:14 bacula-fd: ERROR TERMINATION at > /home/kern/bacula/k/bacula/src/lib/ parse_conf.c:898 > Config error: Cannot open config file > "C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf": No such file or directory > > I try to look in the ProgramDate catalogue to see if i can find the > bacula-fd.conf file and have a look in it. But there is no ProgramData > catalogue. The bacula-fd.conf file is in in C:/Program files/bacula > catalogue. Looks like this: > > # > # Default Bacula File Daemon Configuration file > # > # For Bacula release 5.0.3 (08/05/10) -- Windows MinGW64 > # > # There is not much to change here except perhaps the > # File daemon Name > # > # > # "Global" File daemon configuration specifications > # > FileDaemon { # this is me > Name = clientservername-fd > FDport = 9102 # where we listen for the director > WorkingDirectory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" > Pid Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working" > # Plugin Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins" > Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 > } > # > # List Directors who are permitted to contact this File daemon > # > Director { > Name = backup.mydomainname.com-fd > Password = "mypassword" > } > # > # Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the > # status of the file daemon > # > Director { > Name = @monitor_name@ > Password = "@monitor_password@" > Monitor = yes > } > # Send all messages except skipped files back to Director > Messages { > Name = Standard > director = backup.mydomainname.com-fd = all, !skipped, !restored > } > The password is the same on the client and the servert, I checked > that. Anyhow, it should be possible to start the deamon/service even > if the client have no contact with the servere, right? > > Anybody have a fix on this? Have you tried starting from: Locate the service and try starting it there. The error message would be a lot more revealing. You could click the and try to locate the problem in one of the logs. I did notice a post on an MS Forum, I forgot which one, that the latest version of Bacula does not work on Windows. You apparent have to use a deprecated version. In any case, this might be better suited to an MS Forum discussion. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ "How many people work here?" "Oh, about half." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 14:41:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B097110656AD for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baldur@foo.is) Received: from gremlin.foo.is (gremlin.foo.is [194.105.250.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799FB8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gremlin.foo.is (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA207DA855; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:23:11 +0000 From: Baldur Gislason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827142311.GY10153@gremlin.foo.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:41:48 -0000 I have an IBM 7945 server with an LSI Logic ServeRAID (MegaRAID) M1015 controller and I'm wondering if there's any way to install FreeBSD on this box? Baldur Gislason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 15:44:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC59106566C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCD88FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zSAj1e00217UAYkACTk0KM; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:44:00 +0000 Received: from remegius.comcast.net ([67.180.204.190]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zTjy1e00446zqiB8ZTjzQ3; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:43:59 +0000 Message-ID: <4C77DD3E.6030600@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:43:58 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100819 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans References: <4C75E5BE.6090107@comcast.net> <201008271213.06492.tijl@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <201008271213.06492.tijl@coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic or deadlock with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:44:00 -0000 On 08/27/10 03:12, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2010 05:55:42 Rem P Roberti wrote: >> In an attempt to diagnose why my Thinkpad R51 completely locks up when >> trying to access X I have done the following. I built a debugging >> kernel, with KDB, DDB, WITNESS, INVARIANT*, AND DIAGNOSTIC in addition >> to *BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. None of these things have yielded any progress >> in isolating the issue. Note that replacing the 'intel' driver with the >> 'vesa' driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not cause the computer to >> hang. The problem appears to be specific to the intel driver. Also, I >> have been unable to get a crash report (which is what we were hoping to >> see in /var/crash) regardless of the debugging options built into the >> kernel. >> >> I have attached the output of 'uname -a', 'dmesg', and 'pciconf -lv' to >> this post. > It could be related to DRI, so try to disable it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > Section "Module" > Disable "dri" > Disable "dri2" > EndSection Unfortunately, that did not work. Cheers... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:07:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3D10656A5 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E2F8FC18 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RH7f7T037142 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:07:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:07:47 -0000 guys, this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other dot files? scp doesn't do it. tx, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:19:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354B2106566B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59D68FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so3461743qyk.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OsZHBiBb/7GvL0NLLXsFdrdDOM0UknwpJvZ9gISr5gk=; b=dAe8Qpfh60RaCTBa25jU9QjmJfV342w/qzmBbv0vo4j5Ty33U7KigODGKqCy/pUC+4 +arMOXUHkLGAGdeWrD9UbXJUaWJUXCEbnoTRcU87nqVDWiS+CIwj8DoQRS46qM5917a/ msZQsKeTU82o//pA7Vs7K8AYCaCyKqfXbOAiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GbFxIc/xkU4C/UVYnrG3zOwEyLNldJMHu2xJ88JbcyvoH2DKZ7rsMO16lx37F8bb7a /SHIoZEjNNgymHQFKgSqanuC8RemgaW60vgXMUXwZZvJA5/X35MllPIUDnwy5RGRibyB a4inYbbu6vdkiYU1L0mf7WHpILwCSARVmtS5k= Received: by 10.220.62.72 with SMTP id w8mr665591vch.212.1282929583560; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p26sm1227345vcr.3.2010.08.27.10.19.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:19:40 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:19:46 -0000 On 8/27/10 1:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, > > this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, > ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other > dot files? scp doesn't do it. > > tx, > scp user@foo:\.dotfile .dotfile Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:21:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08610656A3 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BE48FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (emlpfilt4.waddell.com [10.1.10.26]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923AA2665DE; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 84B042F8002; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt4.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E82F8001; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.43]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:13 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Gary Kline' , FreeBSD Mailing List Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:12 -0500 Thread-Topic: how do i scp .dotfiles?? Thread-Index: ActGCnmc1uOfnNNES8eiuOH27682AQAAbaFw Message-ID: <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:21:24 -0000 Rename them, copy, then rename them back? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:08 PM To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: how do i scp .dotfiles?? guys, this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other dot files? scp doesn't do it. tx, gary --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:29:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1E210656A9 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BD48FC19 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FDE20769E4 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id veTpTNup8zGf for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E574020769E2 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBE068947902; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AXeur6qZj41y; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 8CF77689478F1; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:29:14 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827172914.GE22105@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:29:17 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010, Gary Kline wrote: > >guys, > >this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, >~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other >dot files? scp doesn't do it. > scp -r to recursively copy directories? That should get everything in each directory. We tend to use rsync for this, making an initial copy to get the majority of the files transferred before making the final cut over, the ``rsync --delete ...'' to bring things up to date before making the final switch. When switching to a new mail server we have done this live with about 10,000 users, but when we did this, we left the Maildir stores empty before the final rsync and didn't use --delete on the Maildir directories. This allowed new mail to be processed as it came in, and the older mail wouldn't conflict as the Maildir message file names should be unique. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Rights is a fictional abstraction. No one has ``Rights'', neither machines nor flesh-and-blood. Persons... have opportunities, not rights, which they use or do not use. -- Lazarus Long From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:44:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EDE106566C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgh@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73158FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867E3F2F835; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= experts-exchange.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:mime-version:x-mailer:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received :received; s=ee; t=1282930047; x=1284744447; bh=7/iWCXPlwSYHfmop B/4CTCng0NminmfxWpCBKnrkQaU=; b=fyVYKLD9s+GfmIlREVqU2mALPvbb0gEx nQ0HWQiRrerbHYxsO+GxjMR8WZgqg/NzIctXULKT1W9iNAjtC98GWFDf5BQT/9JS CyzoUgGzrISYWkjScu8ru85MKKwckCZ2hmV5DjVAjJ3z6CP7JpZ2cjfeMdUK0Ikc kcOeOHbkKY8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MdlZhHEvrv+O; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eggman (unknown [192.168.103.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 132E4F2F82C; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:25:01 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> In-Reply-To: <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:44:13 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:19:40 -0400 Glen Barber wrote: > On 8/27/10 1:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > guys, > > > > this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, > > ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other > > dot files? scp doesn't do it. > > > > tx, > > > > scp user@foo:\.dotfile .dotfile > > Regards, > Use rsync over ssh. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:46:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101C10656A5 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195BB8FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RHk89l037875 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:46:08 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827174607.GA96341@thought.org> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <20100827172914.GE22105@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827172914.GE22105@ayn.mi.celestial.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:46:12 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:29:14AM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >guys, > > > >this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, > >~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other > >dot files? scp doesn't do it. > > > scp -r to recursively copy directories? That should get > everything in each directory. > > We tend to use rsync for this, making an initial copy to get the > majority of the files transferred before making the final cut > over, the ``rsync --delete ...'' to bring things up to date > before making the final switch. When switching to a new mail > server we have done this live with about 10,000 users, but when > we did this, we left the Maildir stores empty before the final > rsync and didn't use --delete on the Maildir directories. This > allowed new mail to be processed as it came in, and the older > mail wouldn't conflict as the Maildir message file names should > be unique. > > Bill > -- So what would the rsync line be starting from ~kline and pointing at ethiv? ethic is my temporary savings machine while i install the "newtao", m y new desktop. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:51:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1536A10656A9 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45C48FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RHpga2037908; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:51:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jason Helfman Message-ID: <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:51:48 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:25:01AM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:19:40 -0400 > Glen Barber wrote: > > > On 8/27/10 1:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > guys, > > > > > > this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, > > > ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other > > > dot files? scp doesn't do it. > > > > > > tx, > > > > > > > scp user@foo:\.dotfile .dotfile > > > > Regards, > > > > Use rsync over ssh. > > i've already done 98 or so straight scp copies. the thing is how to use rsync over to an empty ethic? [[ empty == "there are no \ dot files not .directories"] i want EVERYTHING from this desktop, tao, temp on ethic. thanks > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator > experts-exchange.com > http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:57:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECEE1065674 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480D08FC0A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A799F2FA1C; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:subject :from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t= 1282931837; x=1284746237; bh=SPnOzyFOwmp7CuVtcbh8JGOIt/g9npE5ZY9 ddihJ1B4=; b=YJzWEfa7am+DCN7NC1UoMuGluSfjBPcEq3V11dzBUuJ3PMj9/Ns 9FW0Sym4tP/7Ft1scXh5cPzb0pw/jX4FsF6dukARru1ae0NP5nU2olWQIQ9PWShJ 4cq4qHXWUo+r3kiuqyfnA4O95hTeXMNoCPyduKeyf5PIK193ecIPVF/s= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xmLd9vKL15IJ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jhelfman) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C586DF2F8EA; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:54:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:54:52 -0700 From: Jason To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100827175452.GD53891@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p1 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:57:18 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:51:41AM -0700, Gary Kline thus spake: >On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:25:01AM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:19:40 -0400 >> Glen Barber wrote: >> >> > On 8/27/10 1:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > > >> > > guys, >> > > >> > > this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, >> > > ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other >> > > dot files? scp doesn't do it. >> > > >> > > tx, >> > > >> > >> > scp user@foo:\.dotfile .dotfile >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> >> Use rsync over ssh. >> >> > > > i've already done 98 or so straight scp copies. the thing is how > to use rsync over to an empty ethic? [[ empty == "there are no \ > dot files not .directories"] i want EVERYTHING from this desktop, > tao, temp on ethic. > > thanks > > You can just use rsync in cooperation with find command. I've used it before, but found this as an example with a web search. rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name "*.[ch]"`' /tmp/ Just reverse the order. -jgh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:04:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BB11065694 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E0B8FC16 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9798365; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:04:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9798363; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:03:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4C77FE0C.9050004@radel.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:03:56 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010708030307020209020700" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:04:12 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010708030307020209020700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/27/10 1:51 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > i've already done 98 or so straight scp copies. the thing is how > to use rsync over to an empty ethic? [[ empty =3D=3D "there are no \ > dot files not .directories"] i want EVERYTHING from this desktop, > tao, temp on ethic. > > thanks > > =20 An alternative I use sometimes when there is ample disk space on the=20 source machine is to create a big tar file of everything in the user's=20 home directory, scp the tar file, and then extract into the new home=20 directory on the destination machine. Personally I find that slightly=20 easier to keep track of. There are many ways to skin this cat.... --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms010708030307020209020700-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:09:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975851065672 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C468FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-71-109-159-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.159.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o7RI9Ggo047470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) References: <96E6F9A3-49F5-4C55-8248-6D62717636DF@lafn.org> <20100827140713.41391a3e@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20100827140713.41391a3e@davenulle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <2D2B914E-B6FA-43CF-9741-559D74D43B9E@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Doug Hardie Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:09:16 -0700 To: Patrick Lamaiziere X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:09:21 -0000 On 27 August 2010, at 05:07, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:19 -0700, > Doug Hardie a =E9crit : >=20 >> PF's route_to will return the packets to the proper router, but I = have not >> been able to figure out which ones those would be. The source IP >> address can be any on either network and its highly likely that we >> will see packets from the same source network on both at the same >> time. The only distinction I see in the input packets between the >> two paths is the MAC address of the router. I don't see any way in >> pf or the system to use that to affect the return path >> though. >=20 > the filter option "reply-to" looks to be what you need. It works by > keeping the state of a connection (see pf.conf(5)). That works great on the output if you can figure out which packets to = use it on. The only way I can see to separate the traffic is using the = router MAC address. I don't find anything in pf that will look at that.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:15:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AF8106564A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B851C8FC26 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7RIFGuo038114; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:15:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jason Message-ID: <20100827181515.GA96499@thought.org> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <4C77F3AC.8020908@gmail.com> <20100827102501.79222db6@eggman> <20100827175141.GB96341@thought.org> <20100827175452.GD53891@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827175452.GD53891@eggman.experts-exchange.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:15:21 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:54:52AM -0700, Jason wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:51:41AM -0700, Gary Kline thus spake: > >On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:25:01AM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: > >>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:19:40 -0400 > >>Glen Barber wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/27/10 1:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >>> > > >>> > guys, > >>> > > >>> > this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, > >>> > ~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other > >>> > dot files? scp doesn't do it. > >>> > > >>> > tx, > >>> > > >>> > >>> scp user@foo:\.dotfile .dotfile > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >> > >>Use rsync over ssh. > >> > >> > > > > > > i've already done 98 or so straight scp copies. the thing is how > > to use rsync over to an empty ethic? [[ empty == "there are no \ > > dot files not .directories"] i want EVERYTHING from this desktop, > > tao, temp on ethic. > > > > thanks > > > > > You can just use rsync in cooperation with find command. > > I've used it before, but found this as an example with a web search. > rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name "*.[ch]"`' /tmp/ > > Just reverse the order. this may be close. use the unix tools and glue them together:-) i have this, cobbled together from a prev script: echo "rsync with checksum from directory [${PWD}] to [kline@ethic:${EPWD}]"; rsync --perms --times --update --compress --verbose \ --checksum -e "ssh -i /home/kline/.ssh/tao_nopasswd-id" \ ${PWD} kline@ethic:${EPWD}; if [ $? = 0 ] then echo "rsync transfer went okay, tao to ethic"|mail kline@thought.org else echo "rsync failed to ethic from /home/kline"|mail kline@thought.org fi exit; but this fails ...... any clues?? > > -jgh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:19:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F891065674 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B996F8FC1C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:14:47 -0400 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:14:43 -0400 Thread-Topic: NATD Question Thread-Index: ActGE1GvGBeKquzzSFWfUQjx6j96oQAACvrw Message-ID: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23902C3F2665CE3@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NATD Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:19:24 -0000 Will natd forward rtmp:// ??? freebsd# cat /etc/natd.conf use_sockets redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.3:3389 10.1.10.172:3389 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:1935 10.1.10.172:1935 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:8790 10.1.10.172:8790 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:6000-6100 10.1.10.172:6000-6100 interface fxp0 log Everything else seems to work just fine. What am I doing wrong ? Michael Kearney Computer Assistant +1 (703) 953-9626 mkearney@nvita.org http://www.nvita.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:43:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652A5106566B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCCD8FC15 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CF52074D1A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jUb6qYwDUvEz for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979082074D11 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB9A68947902; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OGD4SlYBv5Ov; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 4F266689478F1; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:09 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100827184309.GA1390@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <20100827172914.GE22105@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20100827174607.GA96341@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827174607.GA96341@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:43:12 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010, Gary Kline wrote: >On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:29:14AM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010, Gary Kline wrote: >> > >> >guys, >> > >> >this is the start of my master switchover. how to i copy/scp,say, >> >~/.purpur to home/kline/.purple? along with many hundreds of other >> >dot files? scp doesn't do it. >> > >> scp -r to recursively copy directories? That should get >> everything in each directory. >> >> We tend to use rsync for this, making an initial copy to get the >> majority of the files transferred before making the final cut >> over, the ``rsync --delete ...'' to bring things up to date >> before making the final switch. When switching to a new mail >> server we have done this live with about 10,000 users, but when >> we did this, we left the Maildir stores empty before the final >> rsync and didn't use --delete on the Maildir directories. This >> allowed new mail to be processed as it came in, and the older >> mail wouldn't conflict as the Maildir message file names should >> be unique. >> > > So what would the rsync line be starting from ~kline and pointing > at ethiv? ethic is my temporary savings machine while i install > the "newtao", m y new desktop. Assuming that ~kline is /home/kline and will go to /home/kline on the remote machine this would work (decoding the options is left as an exersize for the student :-). cd /home rsync -vaHrP kline othermachine:/home A more general solution that doesn't require ssh, but connects to the rsync daemon on the remote machine might be to create a module definition in the destination machine's /etc/rsyncd.conf file something like this: [myhome] uid = myusername gid = mygroupname read only = false use chroot = true path = /path/to/myhomedirectory comment = /path/to/myhomedirectory hosts allow = sourceipaddress hosts deny = * Then the rsync command could be: rsync -vaHrP ~/kline/ othermachine::myhome/ This has a couple of advantages. First the destination uid:gid can be different on the destination machine as rsync uses the names in the group and passwd database. Assuming you're on a LAN where ssh security isn't critical using the daemon/module approach doesn't require ssh authorized_keys, and can be restricted to one or more IP addresses or CIDR blocks. We use this when moving between systems where the uid:gid mapping is different when moving between machines of differing OS releases (e.g. SuSE Linux to FreeBSD), or where the destination machine may have existing users with conflicting uid:gid s Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 ... because most politicians and bureaucrats are technological idiots, it's going to be crucial for the rank and file members of the IT community to find its collective voice soon. --Michael Vizard, InfoWorld Editor in Chief. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 18:52:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1172106566C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C0B8FC21 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7RIq9Yg030203; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:52:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72DD6BAAC; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:52:09 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Matias Message-ID: <20100827185209.GA79881@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Isamu Onoda , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:52:11 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Matias wrote: > Thanks for replying! >=20 > I've tried everything you mention here with no success: >=20 > The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the=20 > date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also.=20 Some desktop machines have a knob that you can turn which controls the fan speed. In my experience only laptops come with a ACPI thermal subdevice. > I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature will= be > to get windows on it and see what happens. Reading the manual is also an option. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx4CVkACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVJNQCglpRCobWM+8vzUfw3JWwAIwun gd8AnjO0KLoRGxlnzI5Wx4OiKEzbPsKV =1N40 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 19:13:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B51065695 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A608FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080473DB9A; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:13:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7RJD6Pk003185; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:13:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:13:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Gatten Message-Id: <20100827211306.68e261be.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Gary Kline' , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:13:11 -0000 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:12 -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > Rename them, copy, then rename them back? Not good for a whole bunch of files; in this case: tar them together, transfer the archive, untar it; rename afterwards if needed. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:35:33 -0000 Early Bird Registration for Surge Scalability Conference 2010 ends next Tuesday, August 31. We have a killer lineup of speakers and architects from across the Internet. Listen to experts talk about the newest methods and technologies for scaling your Web presence. http://omniti.com/surge/2010/register This year's event is all about the challenges faced (and overcome) in real-life production architectures. 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Register NOW for the Early Bird discount and guarantee your seat to this year's event! -- Jason Dixon OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. jdixon@omniti.com 443.325.1357 x.241 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 20:19:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8072E10656A6 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 229918FC1B for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Aug 2010 20:19:27 -0000 Received: from adsl-41.79.107.0.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [79.107.0.41] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us002) with SMTP; 27 Aug 2010 16:19:27 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/oMzhVOj/o+/fI9aBc+THrHZLVUm0kyWv+AO7U2F V7cLHQi6G4c5Tm Message-ID: <4C781DCC.3020503@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:19:24 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie References: <96E6F9A3-49F5-4C55-8248-6D62717636DF@lafn.org> <20100827140713.41391a3e@davenulle.org> <2D2B914E-B6FA-43CF-9741-559D74D43B9E@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <2D2B914E-B6FA-43CF-9741-559D74D43B9E@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Patrick Lamaiziere , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:29 -0000 On 8/27/2010 9:09 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: > > On 27 August 2010, at 05:07, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > >> Le Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:19 -0700, Doug Hardie a >> écrit : >> >>> PF's route_to will return the packets to the proper router, but I >>> have not been able to figure out which ones those would be. The >>> source IP address can be any on either network and its highly >>> likely that we will see packets from the same source network on >>> both at the same time. The only distinction I see in the input >>> packets between the two paths is the MAC address of the router. >>> I don't see any way in pf or the system to use that to affect the >>> return path though. >> >> the filter option "reply-to" looks to be what you need. It works >> by keeping the state of a connection (see pf.conf(5)). > > That works great on the output if you can figure out which packets to > use it on. The only way I can see to separate the traffic is using > the router MAC address. I don't find anything in pf that will look > at that. Yes, pf cannot use the MAC address to classify a packet. The most sensible sollution would be installing a single router to handle both lines but I know it's not always feasible to do so for several reasons. ipfw can use MAC addresses for classification, perhaps you hack some rules using fwd, skipto and mac. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 20:36:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8CA1065679 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 518828FC1E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Aug 2010 20:36:15 -0000 Received: from adsl-41.79.107.0.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [79.107.0.41] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us003) with SMTP; 27 Aug 2010 16:36:15 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//Moki6kf/6lk3CWcQ3c0v+ieV48qtIOcJcS1y4x gZywqETRzuZ1/5 Message-ID: <4C7821C5.9020002@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:36:21 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael J. Kearney" References: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23902C3F2665CE3@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> In-Reply-To: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23902C3F2665CE3@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: NATD Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:36:17 -0000 On 8/27/2010 9:14 PM, Michael J. Kearney wrote: > Will natd forward rtmp:// ??? I am sure libalias and natd know nothing about rtmp. > freebsd# cat /etc/natd.conf > > use_sockets > redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.3:3389 10.1.10.172:3389 > redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:1935 10.1.10.172:1935 > redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:8790 10.1.10.172:8790 > redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.2:6000-6100 10.1.10.172:6000-6100 > interface fxp0 > log > > Everything else seems to work just fine. What am I doing wrong ? Some protos need special handling when an IP address is changed. Are you sure rtmp can be redirected only by changing the destination address? Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 20:44:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C7C1065673 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482178FC16 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so1144153qyk.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:44:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.142 with SMTP id q14mr913806qcj.26.1282940490407; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jahan@bol-online.com Received: by 10.229.68.90 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:21:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.86] In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:21:29 +0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: F7GaYJBrMIsvDTd5nit74sXH5mo Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:44:59 -0000 check the home directory is correctly defined in the /etc/passwd. use vipw command to check. also u can check using the command finger nitap On 8/26/10, Nita Pavitran wrote: > Hi, > > I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory > instead of the home directory: > > Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied >> uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 > root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 >> > > Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST cc. kindly see the recipients address list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 21:04:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D122910656A8 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F508FC08 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so3701194qyk.13 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:04:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.83 with SMTP id o19mr408672qah.93.1282941366016; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.68.90 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:36:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.86] In-Reply-To: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> References: <9FD5704A74FFF54480BBDE7B432C6D160D0F2927@emailbng2.jnpr.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:36:05 +0600 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Could not chdir to home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:04:13 -0000 check the home directory is correctly defined in the /etc/passwd. use vipw command to check. also u can check using the command finger nitap On 8/26/10, Nita Pavitran wrote: > Hi, > > I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory > instead of the home directory: > > Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied >> uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 > root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 >> > > Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST cc. kindly see the recipients address list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 02:31:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00F10656B5 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CC88FC18 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o7S2V1c5008994; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:31:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:31:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201008280231.o7S2V1c5008994@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kamikaze@bsdforen.de Cc: Subject: Re: change file creation time on msdosfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:31:55 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 26 14:33:04 2010 > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:06:04 +0200 > From: Dominic Fandrey > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: change file creation time on msdosfs > > I need to change the file creation time of some files on an > msdosfs file system. > > Is there any other way to do this than copying the file and deleting > the original? There are _always_ alternative ways. With suffficient knowledge, oue could, for example, use 'dd' to copy the required two bytes to the appropriate position on the raw device holding the filesystem. This approach is, however, not likely to be at all 'reasonable' for the average user. > The usual suspects like touch and mv do not work. yup. 'creation' timestamp is intended to be more-or-less immutable in the Unix world. And that 'viewpoint' carries over to other kinds of filesysems grafted onto a Unix host. >From inside a 'custom' program, it's fairly readily doable, the system calls to do it, to exist. but, off-hand, I can't think of anything that makes it 'easy' for the average user to do it. > > Regards > > -- > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 04:08:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E2D10656AE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CC88FC0A for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o7S48JwL075490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:08:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7S48JOU065547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:08:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o7S3pmpD018963; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:51:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:51:47 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20100828035147.GA5913@dan.emsphone.com> References: <201008280231.o7S2V1c5008994@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201008280231.o7S2V1c5008994@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Cc: kamikaze@bsdforen.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change file creation time on msdosfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:08:23 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 27), Robert Bonomi said: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 26 14:33:04 2010 > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:06:04 +0200 > > From: Dominic Fandrey > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: change file creation time on msdosfs > > > > I need to change the file creation time of some files on an msdosfs file > > system. > > > > Is there any other way to do this than copying the file and deleting the > > original? > > There are _always_ alternative ways. With suffficient knowledge, oue > could, for example, use 'dd' to copy the required two bytes to the > appropriate position on the raw device holding the filesystem. This > approach is, however, not likely to be at all 'reasonable' for the average > user. > > > The usual suspects like touch and mv do not work. > > yup. 'creation' timestamp is intended to be more-or-less immutable in the > Unix world. And that 'viewpoint' carries over to other kinds of > filesysems grafted onto a Unix host. No; the utimes() syscall can be used to easily set the creation time (called birth time so it doesn't get confused with the "ctime" file metadata change time). More likely is that whoever added birthtime to ufs didn't bother updating the msdosfs code. If one of the other BSD's has implemented it, it should be relatively easy to import the changes. Otherwise you'll probably have to look at how birthtime is currently handled in ufs, and make it work in msdosfs. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 04:20:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692331065670 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D8A8FC0C for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 570112840C; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C788A43.8000905@cyberleo.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:02:11 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hartmann, O." References: <4C768980.1080105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4C768980.1080105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Howto create FAT32 bootable USB device with gpart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:20:06 -0000 On 08/26/2010 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Trying to create a bootable USB device (memory stick) with gpart - and > failed. I need those USB mem sticks for BIOS flashing purposes on an > older main PCB, utilizing FreeDOS. The old BIOS is capable of booting > off from USB mem sticks, since I booted and installed FreeBSD via this > method. But the creation of a bootable FreeDOS USB mem stick failed. > I have FreeBSD 9.0 as a mastering operating system and 8 GB sticks. > These are the boundary conditions. Is there any way to perform this task > with gpart? Bootable FAT is sort of a strange thing. As such, I have written up a few methods for producing FAT boot disks using either Win98 DOS and DosBox or using FreeDOS and a perl script called 'sys-freedos.pl'. http://wiki.cyberleo.net/wiki/KnowledgeBase/DOSBoot It shouldn't be too difficult to use the instructions to produce a bootable memstick; just keep in mind that you may have to slice it and install an mbr, as so-called 'superfloppy' layout isn't always supported. Hope this helps! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 06:37:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6F31065695 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F758FC0C for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7S6brEx082107 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C78AEC1.1090304@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:37:53 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100815 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why compositing gets disabled in KDE4? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:37:54 -0000 It worked before on the same system (~3 months ago). But after some updates of everything (kernel/nvidia driver/kde4) it gets disabled from kde4 startup. Pressing 'Resume Compositing' doesn't help. Message pops up that some application disabled compositing, press Alt-Shift-F12. But this doesn't help either. Any idea why this feature is broken? FreeBSD-8.1-STABLE amd64 nvidia-driver-195.36.15 GeForce 9400GT kde-4.4.5 Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 07:02:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDB6106566B for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDF58FC08 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7S72WtV003353; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:02:31 -0700 From: "'Gary Kline'" To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100828070231.GA98502@thought.org> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20100827211306.68e261be.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100827211306.68e261be.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Gary Gatten , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:02:41 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:12 -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > > Rename them, copy, then rename them back? > > Not good for a whole bunch of files; in this case: tar them together, > transfer the archive, untar it; rename afterwards if needed. :-) > If i'm going to rename, say, ~/.Plans to ~/Plans and ~/.HowtoI18 to ~/HowtoI18, I may just scp -rp every ~/[.] file. the idea of using find to collect a tarball may work. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 07:10:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FCB1065672 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6808FC19 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:4da6:87f2:d03b:972] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:4da6:87f2:d03b:972]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id D8AA126 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C78B652.10701@stillbilde.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:10:10 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> <20100827185209.GA79881@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20100827185209.GA79881@slackbox.erewhon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1E9C812009F08C337AE2274C" Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:10:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1E9C812009F08C337AE2274C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27.08.2010 20:52, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Matias wrote: >> Thanks for replying! >> >> I've tried everything you mention here with no success: >> >> The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the=20 >> date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also.=20 >=20 > Some desktop machines have a knob that you can turn which controls the = fan > speed. >=20 > In my experience only laptops come with a ACPI thermal subdevice. Then, I guess that you've not used to Asus mainboards? >> I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature w= ill be >> to get windows on it and see what happens. >=20 > Reading the manual is also an option. :-) Have you ever seen a manual for "consumer gear" that includes the word "FreeBSD" except (maybe) in the copyright notices? //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enig1E9C812009F08C337AE2274C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx4tlYACgkQODUnwSLUlKROtgCfd99mixKUDLP5vWzmZf7I5c7j iI8AnjUAQtPL3bcnDx6PLwVJqHwlGHbL =q6T2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1E9C812009F08C337AE2274C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 07:28:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A251065674 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B058FC0C for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o7S7SPkp023430; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:28:26 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:28:25 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Paul Macdonald In-Reply-To: <20100824120028.7D5EE1065702@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100825020741.E44189@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100824120028.7D5EE1065702@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail rdns question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:28:29 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 325, Issue 5, Message: 4 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:06:33 +0100 Paul Macdonald wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for posting on a bsd list but i figure there's more than a few > sendmail experts here. > > I would like to run reverse dns checks on one of my boxes but the > check_rnds macro looks a bit overkill to me. > > I want to reject the mail if there's no reverse dns, but not if there is > rdns but the PTR loop isn't closed (which is very common). > > So accepting these types: > > reject=451 4.1.8 Possibly forged hostname for > > but rejecting these types > reject=550 5.7.1 <........>... Fix reverse DNS for > ....................... > > In sendmail, FEATURE(`require_rdns')dnl seems to do both. Well yes, it does just that, which is usually what's desired. Eg from the other day, reformatted for readability: Aug 24 19:13:43 xxxxx sm-mta[22564]: ruleset=check_relay, arg1=[220.229.138.147], arg2=220.229.138.147, relay=adsl-220-229-138-147.TC.sparqnet.net [220.229.138.147] (may be forged), reject=451 4.1.8 Possibly forged hostname for 220.229.138.147 % dig +short -x 220.229.138.147 adsl-220-229-138-147.TC.sparqnet.net. % dig +short adsl-220-229-138-147.TC.sparqnet.net. % (RDNS, but the supplied RDNS does not resolve - no 'closed loop' as you put it - so deferred. It's a good clue to the (genuine) sender to fix it, but you'll find that 99% of these will be spam anyway) Aug 24 22:40:59 xxxxx sm-mta[33233]: ruleset=check_relay, arg1=[217.107.186.83], arg2=217.107.186.83, relay=[217.107.186.83], reject=550 5.7.1 Fix reverse DNS for 217.107.186.83 % dig +short -x 217.107.186.83 % (no RDNS - so rejected) In sendmail.cf you'll see something like this (tabs lost in cut'n'paste) R$* $: $&{client_addr} $| $&{client_resolve} R$=R $* $@ RELAY We relay for these R$* $| OK $@ OK Resolves. R$* $| FAIL $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 550 Fix reverse DNS for $1 R$* $| TEMP $#error $@ 4.1.8 $: 451 Client IP address $1 does not resolve R$* $| FORGED $#error $@ 4.1.8 $: 451 Possibly forged hostname for $1 You could make the FORGED ones return '$@ OK' also .. NOT recommended! You'd be much better off whitelisting particular senders that for some reason can't fix their broken RNS, by adding 'someone@somewhere OK' to your /etc/mail/access file. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 07:40:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660571065695 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40CC8FC15 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o7S7eIWk047481; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A2510BAA2; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:40:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:40:18 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" Message-ID: <20100828074018.GA1543@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> <20100827185209.GA79881@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C78B652.10701@stillbilde.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C78B652.10701@stillbilde.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:40:26 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:10:10AM +0200, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) w= rote: > On 27.08.2010 20:52, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Matias wrote: > >> Thanks for replying! > >> > >> I've tried everything you mention here with no success: > >> > >> The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the=20 > >> date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also.=20 > >=20 > > Some desktop machines have a knob that you can turn which controls the = fan > > speed. > >=20 > > In my experience only laptops come with a ACPI thermal subdevice. >=20 > Then, I guess that you've not used to Asus mainboards? As a matter of fact I'm running a P5KPL-VM right now. No acpi_thermal sysct= ls to be found. Of course I am running powerd. > >> I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature w= ill be > >> to get windows on it and see what happens. > >=20 > > Reading the manual is also an option. :-) >=20 > Have you ever seen a manual for "consumer gear" that includes the word > "FreeBSD" except (maybe) in the copyright notices? It doesn't have to. Even if it just says "Use the windoze program foo to control the fan speed", you know that it's possible. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx4vWIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWybgCgreCEvoN8p0E/T6b6nQyVbcOe RIwAn0ys9e4ZP0z5IUQZmBuWsWczJYiK =ApcC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 07:59:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F471065675 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5B68FC16 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OpGK2-0000wL-W9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:59:31 +0200 Received: from 231.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es ([95.16.3.231]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:59:30 +0200 Received: from matiassurdi by 231.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:59:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:59:19 +0200 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <20100826172000.GA46981@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C778D2A.7090405@gmail.com> <20100827185209.GA79881@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4C78B652.10701@stillbilde.net> <20100828074018.GA1543@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 231.3.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <20100828074018.GA1543@slackbox.erewhon.net> Subject: Re: fan control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:59:32 -0000 El 28/08/10 09:40, Roland Smith escribió: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:10:10AM +0200, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: >> On 27.08.2010 20:52, Roland Smith wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Matias wrote: >>>> Thanks for replying! >>>> >>>> I've tried everything you mention here with no success: >>>> >>>> The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the >>>> date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also. >>> >>> Some desktop machines have a knob that you can turn which controls the fan >>> speed. >>> >>> In my experience only laptops come with a ACPI thermal subdevice. >> >> Then, I guess that you've not used to Asus mainboards? > > As a matter of fact I'm running a P5KPL-VM right now. No acpi_thermal sysctls > to be found. Of course I am running powerd. > >>>> I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature will be >>>> to get windows on it and see what happens. >>> >>> Reading the manual is also an option. :-) >> >> Have you ever seen a manual for "consumer gear" that includes the word >> "FreeBSD" except (maybe) in the copyright notices? > > It doesn't have to. Even if it just says "Use the windoze program foo to > control the fan speed", you know that it's possible. > > Roland Well, the manual is almost useless. There is a bios update, but it scares me a bit the fact that the readme.txt included is a bit crappy and mentions something about a realtek networking card....probably they included the wrong readme. http://tecsrv.pcasl.com/driver/Giada_Slim-i2X_manual.rar Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 09:15:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54EC10656A7 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A268FC12 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mueller6722.bellsouth.net (adsl-80-91-66.sdf.bellsouth.net[65.80.91.66]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20100828091504H0400oatqfe>; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:15:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.80.91.66] Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:24:19 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c78d5c3.DMCHay81ZJmeB4ua%mueller6727@bellsouth.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lingua franca file system Linux-NetBSD-FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:15:05 -0000 I see two more possibilities for such a lingua franca file system: xfs and zfs. I noticed, on http://distrowatch.com/ , that there was an update to xfsprogs package. xfsprogs is included in Linux (Slackware 13.0), and I see xfsprogs packages in NetBSD pkgsrc and freebsd ports. I saw an article in heise online that ZFS will be available for Linux: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/ZFS-als-Kernelmodul-fuer-Linux-1068695.html http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=zfs_linux_coming&num=1 (title: Native ZFS Is Coming To Linux Next Month) Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 09:26:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B59B10656E4 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157FB8FC19 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so3008206bwz.13 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ah8dCEpPaRST5Pa3OCNij+amLtPv0B+sf6v6woUnCfc=; b=p7q0x22NJHk8WXUNsmtsApC2Tx8pIPhslGGJD5SSPw4FSF7/H6Nf9Yu5VqyWuPndcZ uaFknDH73CtviSOnRP9q7JGyca390aYr3WyI7sSebbto16nOocFpoFsO6zr24xrli1Ib DFCl5qXZklLLmYL/+uNM2ke4SyKFZ5WNRxtzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oGWw3kk7MUNI43KmQ4nlsh4fKlFeO7Fj4z7v5KFS7MNXQ1EGoW2SP5gerpTk2hCb2D yIBfhKU3pS4+NRhQv9Jyb9zNGDZwPjXkeKy1hohO92rbjWjzCKbwcUUvGhgaM/Fv8OS8 c9qy6dou06JQ2yF32EPKq/W36Uc9pwbCCPVy8= Received: by 10.204.57.9 with SMTP id a9mr1326696bkh.104.1282987585129; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:26:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.123.78 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:25:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100828070231.GA98502@thought.org> References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20100827211306.68e261be.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100828070231.GA98502@thought.org> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:25:55 +0100 Message-ID: To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gary Gatten , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:26:26 -0000 On 28 August 2010 08:02, Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:12 -0500, Gary Gatten wr= ote: >> > Rename them, copy, then rename them back? >> >> Not good for a whole bunch of files; in this case: tar them together, >> transfer the archive, untar it; rename afterwards if needed. :-) >> > > If i'm going to rename, say, ~/.Plans to ~/Plans and ~/.HowtoI18 to > ~/HowtoI18, I may just scp -rp every ~/[.] file. =A0the idea of using > find to collect a tarball may work. > How about: $ tar cjf - *dotfile* | ssh machine 'tar xvjf -' Much less fiddly! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 10:29:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72D51065697 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F238FC1E for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7SATZHj041776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:29:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C78E509.6020701@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:29:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Gary Kline'" References: <20100827170737.GA96063@thought.org> <26118_1282929673_4C77F409_26118_366_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434999FDCA57D@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20100827211306.68e261be.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100828070231.GA98502@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100828070231.GA98502@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA44F0E990D532DC872E466DE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Gary Gatten , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i scp .dotfiles?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:29:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA44F0E990D532DC872E466DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28/08/2010 08:02:31, 'Gary Kline' wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:21:12 -0500, Gary Gatten = wrote: >>> Rename them, copy, then rename them back? >> >> Not good for a whole bunch of files; in this case: tar them together, >> transfer the archive, untar it; rename afterwards if needed. :-) >> >=20 > If i'm going to rename, say, ~/.Plans to ~/Plans and ~/.HowtoI18 to > ~/HowtoI18, I may just scp -rp every ~/[.] file. the idea of using > find to collect a tarball may work. I've been reading this thread, and I'm somewhat at a loss as to why you need to rename all of the dotfiles at all, Gary. Dotfiles are just ordinary files, and programs like find(1), scp(1) or tar(1) will handle them just like any other file. The only difference is that shells by default don't include dotfiles in some glob expansions and ls(1) doesn't include them in directory listings. Of course, either of the above can be overridden: 'echo * .*' or 'ls -a' will show all files including dotfiles. The one slightly tricky thing about dealing with dotfiles is the presence of '..' -- the standard link to the directory above the current one. If you accidentally include that in a list of directories to recurse through, then you'll end up affecting a bunch of stuff that maybe you didn't expect. So long as you are aware of the possibility it's pretty easy to avoid this problem. To make a copy of your home directory on tao to a temporary directory on ethic, personally I'd use rsync(1) [in ports as net/rsync]. Then you can just do: % rsync -avx --delete ~/ ethic:/home/kline/ It will default to running over ssh(1), so you need to make sure you can ssh from tao to ethic before you begin. The neat thing is that you run that command repeatedly, and each subsequent time it will copy only what has changed on tao over to ethic. I see someone has given instructions for setting up anonymous rsync -- that's another possibility, but probably a bit OTT for this particular job. Anonymous rsync is probably best thought of as a superior replacement for anonymous FTP. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA44F0E990D532DC872E466DE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx45Q8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwk5ACfewSo1GLonRFRrL+cCcLx8mW2 +XMAnRtx9QmDp43dHQeON+pkr+ABa/U5 =Wfdu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA44F0E990D532DC872E466DE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 12:22:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAE81065672 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fwd@ichwilldichschmecken.de) Received: from keus02.synserver.de (www.hassblog.de [212.40.171.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D9C8FC1A for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by keus02.synserver.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C552159D36; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:08:28 +0200 From: Thomas Keusch To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20100828120828.GA7863@vs2.ichwilldichschmecken.de> References: <4C78F7BE.7060007@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C78F7BE.7060007@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:22:18 -0000 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:49:18PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hell Bernt, > I'm having problems with lines like this in cron, works on the command > line, but not in cron. > > /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /usr | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish \ > targetuser@targetmachine.example.com dd > of=/mybigfiles/dump-usr-l0-"`date "+%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M-%S"`".gz you need to escape the percent-signs like that: \% For why see man 5 crontab Regards Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 13:30:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5475B1065672 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A908FC1E for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so5532431wyb.13 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LoyVC3aX0sUD1TV38+NeaQe6YbJHuOUHHYWs38TB0F8=; b=cvj+4ER49054//I045SFJLI/Odcg0Hqvlr9ajRqb19SH59tsUpak2kIlDVG4bHrchK AhvDs6d2NPKSmAbY61EAperfcDaY5x6YdAWNhixf/k9mDilFNKW5ov9g88O2pmfG1iJv YB3y0RNRKCtExirC83h8ZbL3M8IhjrqHngEw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gARM1BoYa/Ea/g5YDtD0PI/TWDS1HcUQ1hBWhUIbmVJeqzZR7AyF9ais3ixPcGYXgb yIXRIkp06rtMvhpL9NDHIAf8gscsX2rjOL9i7AnYePiZGHdxFem26HjszgWMCmPaeOp4 j0Pq8Mhf1sDow5OqCB9W6blygymYKpQEXQDnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.130.203 with SMTP id u11mr2004236wbs.220.1283002219615; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.179.201 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:30:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cups - error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libcups.so.2: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:30:21 -0000 Hello fellas, I have a 8.0-RELEASE (i386) with the following make.conf: PERL_VERSION=5.8.9 WRKDIRPREFIX=/wrkdir NO_BIND = YES WITH_CUPS=YES CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES WITHOUT_LPR=YES and a custom kernel that has all the features of GENERIC + all required stuff for pf. Nothig special up to this point. I needed to install cups on this particular machine because the network it resides on has several printers. There is 1 network printer which I added without any problems but I also need to add a Samsung CLP-310_Series USB printer. cups-base-1.4.4 cups-client-1.4.4 cups-image-1.4.4 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_6 gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_2 gutenprint-base-5.2.4_2 gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_2 and devfs.rules: [system=10] add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb/4.2.0' mode 0660 group cups <- this was added because cups did not see/detect my usb printer and after a restart of devfs and cups, I was able to add the Samsung printer (ppd was on the CD). All fine and dandy up to this point but when I tried to print a test page I got: [...] D [28/Aug/2010:11:44:14 +0300] [Job 29] Samsung_CLP-310_Series: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libcups.so.2: ELF file OS ABI invalid [...] D [28/Aug/2010:11:44:14 +0300] [Job 29] printer-state-message="/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/rastertosamsungsplc failed" [...] So I have 2 problems. 1) /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 # ldd /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 /usr/lib/libcups.so.2: libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x28300000) libcrypt.so.5 => /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x2831a000) libz.so.5 => /lib/libz.so.5 (0x281ee000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x28333000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28091000) 2) rastertosamsungsplc As far as problem 2 goes, I am guessing the file has some problems (although it worked on a centos with the same printer - wtf ? - or maybe it is some linux version of the file) I have the linux kernel module loaded and "linux_base-f10-10_2" installed My guess is that cups needs a linux version of "libcups.so.2" and not a native BSD one. This would explain the fact that it cannot find the file in the first place. I searched for "libcups.so.2" and the only place I could find it was in "/usr/lib" which means that this file is a BSD file. If anyone can pass my their "libcups.so.2" to try I would appreciate it (linux and/or BSD version - if one) . Any ideas and/or thought are highly welcomed -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 17:10:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B20106564A for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F3A98FC12 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2212 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2010 17:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2010 17:10:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=XhuJ3ZDWV3PWJK95YNeBOF7KaRZ7Qi8ZrDTVmFxH7tMmPGcr/SIhMq7GhKdrLPu/5je/nNa++KCnGNWA0B+T3nPCF+GzKpqnWSjCxJe4BeTzhTblrNap10/X5gwmasKC; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OpOvM-00044s-Bj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:10:37 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:07:45 -0600 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:07:45 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd general questions Message-ID: <20100828170745.GA88025@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd general questions References: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100826215346.7aaba141.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100826215346.7aaba141.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:10:38 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > At least you need one machine with Internet connection to get > the ports update, e. g. using "portsnap fetch extract" or > "make update" (using csup). Once done, tar cf ports.tar /usr/ports > and transfer the file to the server without Internet connection; > finally extract it there. Is that supposed to say this? tar -cf ports.tar /usr/port --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkx5QmEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUJLQCcDIiOOZq0dgZwAC4omyI9Cs6G +RoAoJv47pLeHdf5x6F1eWlYksOhPQrV =Er7n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 18:36:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D7510656A8 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7268FC12 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-116-86.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.116.86]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E1C1EA7B; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:36:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o7SIaI3a001433; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:36:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:36:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100828203618.45fd6be8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100828170745.GA88025@guilt.hydra> References: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100826215346.7aaba141.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100828170745.GA88025@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:36:21 -0000 On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:07:45 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:53:46PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > At least you need one machine with Internet connection to get > > the ports update, e. g. using "portsnap fetch extract" or > > "make update" (using csup). Once done, tar cf ports.tar /usr/ports > > and transfer the file to the server without Internet connection; > > finally extract it there. > > Is that supposed to say this? > > tar -cf ports.tar /usr/port It should be, better suited: # cd /usr # tar cf ports.tar ports So one could do "tar xf ports.tar" in the target machine's /usr directory which would create /usr/ports in the version obtained; a previously existing ports/ subtree could be removed prior to extraction. I think the - infront of the options string isn't neccessary for tar, but it's optional in this case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 20:56:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A21065679 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756C38FC17 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so4161384iwn.13 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=801v3eNFNvzvImCtGT+bSk1av/raxc3UYNefsZhgHfo=; b=me/4D/eaq2nbalch+KzqVzPVQhCos39e3OBQJSIq1zPMrgJO972HnRVLbuRihpF1Wv Cx0pI+zI8xK6B3kdg28sLITIf5kMY4o3Jm7KLCtuLYdheEO19wWWrihax4h0mC4IfRK4 wMc3sXixhwpjKslxFYOz8UsWfes1DwduzcBSE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VnFjFbX/PbCUED2nR/Ip5ytNBH4/gQci708UD4XUCA1YfvWqr0/sP2DWTKhQByHSwl u6UI2yGpoos8udkzDDXUPfMbLfK8c9OemrgkIa/rvDDAp7OhBEBC4OAW33SPZcPSGhDR D+aF9BuOe/NwKAko2BSLgraNdyrwazXduWTmI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.162.2 with SMTP id t2mr3014322ibx.57.1283028969926; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.188.81 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Moving from one port to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:56:10 -0000 Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 21:19:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F6610656A7 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E838FC15 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zvYc1e0021GXsucABx63Dh; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:06:03 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zx5f1e00202K3z28Ux62vR; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:06:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:06:02 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: Subject: Re: Moving from one port to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:19:13 -0000 portupgrade, perhaps? On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move > to the 3.1 branch. >=20 > I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do > 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter > way to do this. >=20 > Kurt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 21:33:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6D210656A5 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37C08FC08 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34so3544174wwb.31 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:33:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f6/25IBInELzD0T0TX3dzTr07maFXcY9Hu1dZg/THPc=; b=Jl2lJKUm5nxcXhNYN71ykuelr+SNR3S0pEjxwdpAnDv78vqo7JA3rc3AfRpSfEqajh eFVxmbGJaSBVpinso2Ozd1PSLjik9EAr7LaQA9mI1xxvR4nHU3d5mol1GtHpARDMLHHX 4VRKRVhSTeP54vdIRYQ7cdVDBz0k0mdq9J/o4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MlFyuwhq7vR/wCNOuL1bhslVjo2L/UPYyO4YhlG1H6GavvvIaI2KjvXHgNVYQAimoA 2HumirI5CmjnaYJ2HHzV5pewQYL59Qn1sfC7JRAeH40QgkqK2jtXcT/llEkaMTKkPEs8 6kACfM3IXF9rVHSIbFiRZoi1Ld2aXLjetTC8M= Received: by 10.227.23.213 with SMTP id s21mr2453514wbb.84.1283031212816; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m25sm4729462wbc.1.2010.08.28.14.33.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:33:17 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100828223317.6b3aae15@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Moving from one port to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:33:34 -0000 On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 Kurt Buff wrote: > Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move > to the 3.1 branch. > > I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do > 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter > way to do this. Not much smarter. You might want to use portupgrade or portmaster to make any ports that depend on squid30 depend on the new port - it doesn't really matter much in the case of squid. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 21:42:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ADE1065696 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA718FC17 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so4190917iwn.13 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.16 with SMTP id p16mr2995966ibx.61.1283030253419; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:17:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.135 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Kurt Buff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Moving from one port to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:42:51 -0000 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move > to the 3.1 branch. > > I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do > 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter > way to do this. > If you use portmaster try portmaster [Common Flags] -o -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 23:01:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86071065693 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978D58FC1A for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o7SN0wlj014966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o7SN0wbp014965; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23972; Sat, 28 Aug 10 15:59:45 PDT Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:59:25 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4c7994cd.zZBjSuPFSUYKdCmf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <874453.45134.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100826215346.7aaba141.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100828170745.GA88025@guilt.hydra> <20100828203618.45fd6be8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100828203618.45fd6be8.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:01:06 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > > tar -cf ports.tar /usr/port > > It should be, better suited: > > # cd /usr > # tar cf ports.tar ports > > So one could do "tar xf ports.tar" in the target machine's /usr > ... Better put the created tarfile somewhere other than in the directory that is being tarred :) and it might as well be compressed, something like: # cd /usr # tar cf - ports | gzip > /var/tmp/ports.tgz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 23:16:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC7D1065673 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@dusk.parklogic.com) Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D855B8FC18 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11717 invoked by uid 511); 28 Aug 2010 21:06:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20100828210619.11716.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> From: "Jason" To: "Jack Vogel" In-Reply-To: AANLkTimeigqUOgwsfoX+sfshCxy+fdRAH-t4o23C9wNY@mail.gmail.com References: 20100826165632.GL19553@eggman.experts-exchange.com AANLkTimeigqUOgwsfoX+sfshCxy+fdRAH-t4o23C9wNY@mail.gmail.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:06:19 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="1283029579.Bf4E3440.11623"; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: jvf@freebsd.org, jpaetzel@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unsupported intel card registration issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:16:33 -0000 Dear Sir/Madam, Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to. 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